1-Aug-1999 10:53:33-GMT,1968;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29383 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 04:53:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25372; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 05:40:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Aug 1999 05:34:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25091; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 05:34:50 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Time out a document Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:34:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bedc09$7042e080$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <003101bedbc0$98f8d280$f3c62e9c@liebeno> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > Is there any way to make a PDF document time out after a > specified period of > time without haveing to purchase a $2500.00 plug-in? You could write one yourself, but I doubt that it would work out cheaper. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Aug-1999 16:13:51-GMT,2860;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06185 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:13:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17637; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:01:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:53:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16852; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:53:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:53:18 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Document Name In-Reply-To: <37A319B7.22FAAF8A@lauterkranz.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The actual problem is that: > If I generate a form field with pdf-marks > and add a javascript (in the pdfmark) that executes when the document > opens. > On Open Acobat gives me a javascript error: "property of var f is not > defined". > the pdf mark code I use is this: This is strange. I get the JavaScript error "f has no properties". When I delete the text form field and manually add it, everything is OK. It also works if after opening the PDF and get the error, you just view the document-level JavaScript. But the error recurs when subsequently opening the PDF. Since replacing the form field with a manually added one works, it may be a problem with the form field that is created with your pdfmark, although my inexperienced eyes didn't see anything obvious when examining the PDF in a text editor. (This is all with Exchange 3.01 + Forms Author plug-in update and Reader 4). > [ /_objdef {TestScript} /type /dict /OBJ pdfmark > [ {TestScript} << /JavaScript << /Names [ (test) << /S /JavaScript > /JS (var f = this.getField\("testfield"\);\rvar p = this.path;\rf.value = > p.substring(p.lastIndexOf\("/"\) + 1, p.length\);) >>] Note that the first parenthesis here is unescaped, but this is probably just a typo. > >> >> > /PUT pdfmark > [{Catalog} << /Names {TestScript} >> /PUT pdfmark _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Aug-1999 17:38:32-GMT,3051;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07994 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25467; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:31:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:27:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25092; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:27:09 -0500 Message-ID: <37A4815B.FD7D167B@lauterkranz.com> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 19:18:19 +0200 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Document Name References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi now you know the problem. First i thought that it has to do with the order of incomming arguments. So that the javascript can not point to the field because it is not there when the script gets executed. But this seems to be a too easy conclusion. So if theres anyone out there with an idea please post it!! Here is the Problem again: If I generate a form field with pdf-marks and add a javascript (in the pdfmark) that executes when the document opens. On Open Acobat gives me a javascript error: "var f has no property". the pdf mark code I use is this: [ /T (testfield) % title /Subtype /Widget /FT /Tx % field type text box /DV (Testing) % default value /Rect [ 75 586 456 663] /F 4 % field is printable /BS << /S /S /W 1 >> % border style solid, width = 1 /MK << /BC [ 1 0 0 ] % border color red /BG [ 1 1 1 ] >> % background color white /ANN pdfmark [ /_objdef {TestScript} /type /dict /OBJ pdfmark [ {TestScript} << /JavaScript << /Names [ (test) << /S /JavaScript /JS (var f = this.getField\("testfield"\);\rvar p = this.path;\rf.value = p.substring(p.lastIndexOf\("/"\) + 1, p.length\);) >>] >> >> /PUT pdfmark [{Catalog} << /Names {TestScript} >> /PUT pdfmark The Javascript can be found in the Document Javascripts. When I put the same code (unescaping the escape characters) into the OpenPage Action of Acrobat: IT WORKS!! _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Aug-1999 17:38:34-GMT,3134;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07999 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24955; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:25:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:21:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24511; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:21:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990801190110.007a08a0@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 19:01:10 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Autostart-CD In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990731112135.008d1130@pop.iglou.com> References: <3.0.6.32.19990731084734.008074a0@pop.online.de> <3.0.5.32.19990730121056.008dd750@pop.iglou.com> <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9AE7@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve Rindsberg wrote me: With Acro reader or exchange installed, "start START.PDF" from a DOS prompt would automatically start Acrobat and load the start file. He assumed this would also work in an autorun.inf directly or via a batch file. and suggested I take this subject to the list -- so, thanks, Steve, and here are my questions: What do I need to code in autorun.inf to run the installed version of Acrobat [Reader/Exchange] and load a start file ? What happens if Acrobat [Reader/Exchange] is not installed ? Any elegant ways to fork to displaying an install note ? How do you handle this autostart feature ? - Do you use this feature at all ? - Do you start Acrobat from the CD ? I am not a fan of autostart, but sales and marketing seem to like it. Autostarting Acrobat Reader and Search from the CD would have the advantage that all users would have a Search button, even those who previously installed Acrobat Reader and don't know that there is such an animal as the Search plug-in. But on the other hand, wouldn't I, for example, force the English version of Acrobat Reader on someone who has the French version installed on the hard disk. What about performance issues when running the program from a CD. Reinhard _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Aug-1999 17:49:29-GMT,4090;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08205 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:49:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26734; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:44:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:40:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26197; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:40:18 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990801190110.007a08a0@pop.online.de> References: <3.0.5.32.19990731112135.008d1130@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.6.32.19990731084734.008074a0@pop.online.de> <3.0.5.32.19990730121056.008dd750@pop.iglou.com> <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9AE7@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:38:45 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Autostart-CD Cc: Reinhard Jaehnig Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reinhard, from my experience, the main performance issue when running Reader from a CD occurs when running the CD the first time on a virgin machine. This takes some time for the Reader to find out if there has been already another Reader 4 previously installed. Otherwise, it is not that bad at all. With the international master, the Reader asks on a virgin machine first for the language to be used (mainly for the End User Licence Agreement, but also for the main language). Then, it will use that language, also on subsequent sessions. With Acrobat Reader 4, it is possible to select the user interface language in the General Preferences. For the actual code for the autostart.inf, look at the Acrobat 4 CD. On my CDs I am using somehting like [autorun] open=.\cd\reader\acrord32.exe .\.pdf icon=Acrobat.ico Although I am not such a fan of autostart CDs, I think here it is a good idea, because there is no need to check for already present installations, and there is no need for any installations at all. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >What do I need to code in autorun.inf to run the installed >version of Acrobat [Reader/Exchange] and load a start file ? > >What happens if Acrobat [Reader/Exchange] is not installed ? >Any elegant ways to fork to displaying an install note ? > >How do you handle this autostart feature ? >- Do you use this feature at all ? >- Do you start Acrobat from the CD ? > >I am not a fan of autostart, but sales and marketing seem to >like it. > >Autostarting Acrobat Reader and Search from the CD would have >the advantage that all users would have a Search button, even >those who previously installed Acrobat Reader and don't know >that there is such an animal as the Search plug-in. But on the >other hand, wouldn't I, for example, force the English version >of Acrobat Reader on someone who has the French version installed >on the hard disk. What about performance issues when running the >program from a CD. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Aug-1999 20:03:54-GMT,2745;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11021 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:03:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05528; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:59:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:54:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05072; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:54:25 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990801155219.00a3c240@mail.hannah.com> X-Sender: frank@mail.hannah.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 15:54:22 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Frank Atkinson Subject: Re: [PDF] Setting up an intranet with PDF based documents In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990731092312.0079e320@engg.hku.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If theyl'll pop for Verity it searches PDF's, word, html as well as other files. At 09:23 AM 7/31/99 +0800, you wrote: > >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Hello, > >I have used Acrobat and Pagemaker to create PDF files for quite a while, >but under my new assignment I have to scan about 60,000 piece of document >into PDF and setup an intranet and database so that people can access these >pdfs through the web. >I don't think I have much problem with OCR scanning, but I do need some >directions or suggestions on how to setup a database with PDF based >documents... >My server is running on a NT 4, IIS2, on a dual pentinum processor. If any >suggestions or ideas will be appreciated. Thanks in advanced. > >Howard. > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 4:31:33-GMT,2054;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21763 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 22:31:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15452; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:25:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:21:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14998; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:21:06 -0500 Message-ID: <044e01bedc9e$5d8e4160$7719fed0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic bookmarks from Word file Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:18:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The "Bookmarks by Example" feature of Compose will do this in single documents or a batch of documents. PDFZone product listing will have contact info. SueG -----Original Message----- John Posada wrote: . . .Aside from recreating them in Exchange one by one, how do I automatically generate the bookmarks based on styles in Word the way I could with Frame? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 6:21:58-GMT,2313;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24395 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:21:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22954; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:06:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:00:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22482; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:00:47 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0B1F57@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Richard Crocker To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic bookmarks from Word file Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:01:03 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > . . .Aside from recreating them in Exchange one by one, how do I > automatically generate the bookmarks based on styles in Word > the way I could with Frame? Adobe have a free plug-in called PDFMaker 1.0 for Acrobat Exchange. PDFMaker for Exchange generates a maximum of 50 bookmarks. I can't recall exactly but it may be that it only uses Heading 1, 2 and 3, and not the styles you have created yourself. You can download it and get more info here http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4d9e.htm The PDFMaker that comes with Acrobat 4.0 is a lot more flexible - it allows one to generate bookmarks from any Headings or Styles. Regards, Richard Crocker rich@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com A Round Table Solution _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 7:04:18-GMT,2740;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA25200 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:04:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26239; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:53:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:50:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25875; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 01:50:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doc@Saint-Etienne.tt.slb.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:54:04 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Nick Lockie Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic bookmarks from Word file Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Have a look at http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4d9e.htm where you will find PDFMaker which sounds like it will do what you want. PDFMaker for Word 97 is a macro for Microsoft Word 97 that automatically converts the following features in Word 97 documents to corresponding features in PDF files: - Headings in Word 97 are automatically converted to PDF bookmarks. - URLs are automatically converted to PDF Weblinks. - Cross-references within a document are converted to PDF links. - Page numbers in tables of contents and figures are automatically linked to their destinations. - Links to other documents are converted to PDF links. - Footnote and endnote citations are linked to the notes themselves. - Comments in Word 97 are converted to PDF text notes. - PDF article threads are created from text in Word 97 text boxes. - Document properties (e.g., author, creation date) in Word 97 are converted to PDF document information. -----Original Message----- John Posada wrote: . . .Aside from recreating them in Exchange one by one, how do I automatically generate the bookmarks based on styles in Word the way I could with Frame? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 9:27:31-GMT,2042;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28134 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 03:27:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03290; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:20:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:17:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03106; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:17:44 -0500 From: Thomas Gnewuch To: Subject: [PDF] Vektor Graphics in Acrobat Exchange 4.0 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:20:21 +0100 Message-ID: <417254B528E8D21197D700609777BC4E1664@URANUS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My problem is to copy some vektor graphics from Exchange to another application like Word 97. When I mark my graphics in Exchange, copy them and later paste it into Word, I only have some bitmaps in my Word document. So my question is, how to copy these graphics not having a bitmap with low quality in Word. Any idea Thanks Thomas G. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 9:45:10-GMT,3197;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28482 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 03:45:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04694; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:40:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:37:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA04503; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:37:26 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567C1.00391DC9.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:36:58 +0100 Subject: Antwort: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com 30.07.99 21:43 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDM > I'm thinking that the install > will cause my OS (Windows NT 4.0 SP 3) to associate the Reader as the > default application for launching PDF files, and I don't want that. In my experience (Win95 and WinNT4), the Acrobat Reader 4.0 installation is pretty benign. If a version of Acrobat already exists, Reader 4.0 does not become the default PDF viewer: no associations change. -- Hi, I think this is the problem. You have Exchange installed and it gets the *.pdf association. And if you want to view PDF's, Exchange will open even when Reader would be enough. Ok, you can cope with this with the send-to extention from TweakUI. But you don't have any influence which ActiveX control will open if you browse through PDFs with your webbrowser. It would be nice, if you can chose between "view" and "edit" in your context menu and if Reader would give the ActiveX Control. Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net ================================================================== _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 9:45:10-GMT,2414;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28483 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 03:45:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04696; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:40:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:37:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA04533; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:37:53 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Vektor Graphics in Acrobat Exchange 4.0 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:37:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bedcca$a5bd3e60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <417254B528E8D21197D700609777BC4E1664@URANUS> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > My problem is to copy some vektor graphics from Exchange to another > application like Word 97. When I mark my graphics in > Exchange, copy them and > later paste it into Word, I only have some bitmaps in my Word > document. So > my question is, how to copy these graphics not having a > bitmap with low quality in Word. Copy/paste is always a bitmap. To be able to paste vector graphics, Acrobat would have to convert to WMF, something that is dodgy at best. It won't do that. To improve quality, zoom in after selecting the object. Better still, return to the original vector graphics, this is probably a more suitable path. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 9:58:24-GMT,2741;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28709 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 03:58:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05598; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:52:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:49:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05376; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:49:17 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567C1.003ACFCB.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:48:31 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] PDF FILE NAME WEIRDNESS FROM WORD DOCS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > %%Title: Whatever You Or The App Put Here It only happens when printing to the Distiller Printer, as I tried the same thing in a couple of other programs, including Excel and Publisher, and the "Creator" is not included in the file name. -- Hi, we still use Office95, so I can't test PDFMaker, but: Is it possible to change the printerdriver PDFMaker uses? What does happen if you rename oder delete Distiller's Driver? I guess, that PDFMaker uses PDFmarks, to set title, author, pdf-links, etc. Can you rescue the PS-File before Distiller converts it? What does the PDFmarks (at the end of the PS-File) say? can you overwrite them by appending "correct" PDFmark Title sequences afterwards? Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 1:12:55-GMT,2978;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17657 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:12:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA31591; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:05:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:00:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA31001; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:00:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199908020100.SAA14402@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 12:47:23-GMT,2408;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01994 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 06:47:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17939; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:41:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:37:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17563; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:37:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021232.FAA02650@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 05:32:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF FILE NAME WEIRDNESS FROM WORD DOCS From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > In both cases I'm using Distiller as my default printer. A (somewhat > annoying) workaround when using Print rather than PDFMaker is to use > Distiller as the default printer. Open Distiller and change the File > > Preferences so that you are prompted for the filename before printing > begins. You delete the "Microsoft Word -" and then print. I think I > also had the 'Print to File' option off. Richard: This isn't a problem for me...I was trying to help someone else solve a problem wherein, if I recall correctly, they were trying to do some batch processing. It is annoying for sure, and ridiculous that one has to put up with such a stupid little thing, and can't create a smooth workflow. Oh, well. That's what makes the world go around in sometimes a herky jerky fashion. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 13:17:43-GMT,6646;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02891 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:17:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20630; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:11:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:08:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20290; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:08:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Sheila Mahoney To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Vektor Graphics in Acrobat Exchange 4.0 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:09:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="---- =_NextPart_001_01BEDCE8.4FB794F0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_001_01BEDCE8.4FB794F0 Content-Type: text/plain We have a freeware tool that allows you to choose between 72 and 300 DPI when copying graphics out of pdfs. It's on our website and is called ISI GraphicCopy- www.imagesolutions.com. -Sheila > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Gnewuch [SMTP:tg@contact.de] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 5:20 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Vektor Graphics in Acrobat Exchange 4.0 > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > My problem is to copy some vektor graphics from Exchange to another > application like Word 97. When I mark my graphics in Exchange, copy > them and > later paste it into Word, I only have some bitmaps in my Word > document. So > my question is, how to copy these graphics not having a bitmap with > low > quality in Word. > > Any idea > Thanks > Thomas G. > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ ------ =_NextPart_001_01BEDCE8.4FB794F0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Vektor Graphics in Acrobat Exchange 4.0

We have a freeware = tool that allows you to choose between 72 and 300 DPI when copying = graphics out of pdfs.  It's on our website and is called ISI = GraphicCopy- www.imagesolutions.com.

-Sheila

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------ =_NextPart_001_01BEDCE8.4FB794F0-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 13:48:47-GMT,3820;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03614 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:48:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23474; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:39:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:37:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23268; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:37:24 -0500 Message-ID: <009701bedcec$3a708dc0$466564c8@MAbrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199908021232.FAA02650@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF FILE NAME WEIRDNESS FROM WORD DOCS Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:37:56 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi guys. I was the one Rich was trying to help with this strange little problem. And although it was not batch printing that I was attempting, having to rename the file every week was not something I wanted to have to train our (mostly computer-phobic) customers how to do. I guess there might be a hidden advantage, however. If we teach them the right way to do it, it could prevent a host of problems where they simply don't conform to our file naming conventions. Thanks to everyone for their response to the thread. Gratefully, Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Sprague To: Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF FILE NAME WEIRDNESS FROM WORD DOCS > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > In both cases I'm using Distiller as my default printer. A (somewhat > > annoying) workaround when using Print rather than PDFMaker is to use > > Distiller as the default printer. Open Distiller and change the File > > > Preferences so that you are prompted for the filename before printing > > begins. You delete the "Microsoft Word -" and then print. I think I > > also had the 'Print to File' option off. > > Richard: > > This isn't a problem for me...I was trying to help someone else solve a > problem wherein, if I recall correctly, they were trying to do some batch > processing. > > It is annoying for sure, and ridiculous that one has to put up with such a > stupid little thing, and can't create a smooth workflow. > > Oh, well. That's what makes the world go around in sometimes a herky jerky > fashion. > > r|i|c|h > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 14:25:10-GMT,3297;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04473 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:25:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27335; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:17:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:14:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27048; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:14:21 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF FILE NAME WEIRDNESS FROM WORD DOCS Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:13:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bedcf1$43625760$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199908021232.FAA02650@mail.inficad.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > In both cases I'm using Distiller as my default printer. A (somewhat > > annoying) workaround when using Print rather than PDFMaker is to use > > Distiller as the default printer. Open Distiller and change > the File > > > Preferences so that you are prompted for the filename > before printing > > begins. You delete the "Microsoft Word -" and then print. I think I > > also had the 'Print to File' option off. Perhaps it is worth focussing on where the problem is coming from. When using PDFMaker, the Word Macro controls what is happening and can set the title. But when you print to a PDF driver, the driver has to pick a file name for you. It has really only two sources of information. 1. The "title" passed to the print dialog. You will see this in print progress messages "Printing ... to". 2. The title of the parent window which started the print process. Neither of these is guaranteed to be a file name. Of course, there is no guarantee that what is printed is a file at all - it could be an internally generated report. So, the print driver can't do very much with this information. The "obvious" thing is to remove everything before a hyphen, but some applications may not include their own name. A file might be called "Lost - and found". Or, consider the case of Netscape: titles are "Home page - Netscape"... Arguably something could do a better job of guessing, or having a list of common application names, but realise that this is all guesswork, not something wilfully messing up the names. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 14:34:39-GMT,2653;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04701 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:34:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28088; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:25:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:22:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27862; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:22:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021422.JAA27856@everglades.binc.net> Date: 02 Aug 99 10:22:11 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF Files To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA27858 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF Files >As far as the appearance of fonts goes, there should be *no* difference >between the PDF Writer and Distiller. Not necessarily true. PDF Writer does not have the ability to correctly process the kerning information with all characters. (i.e. - #(){}%* etc. and text flagged as a style (italic, bold) on the same line as normal text). (I know this all too well as I wrestled with this for 3 or 4 months last year printing PDF Writer PDF's created from Microsoft products to Xerox digital printers.) The tricky part is that it IS an area that sometimes defies WYSIWYG viewing, because the problem can be present (characters with severe negative kerning values) and look fine on screen, but the truth always comes out when the document is printed. Moral of the story? Avoid PDF Writer. If you are looking for printability of a PDF file, use Distiller. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 15:10:30-GMT,2822;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05666 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:10:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32132; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:03:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:00:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31695; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:00:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990802110446.00889d60@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:04:46 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Error messages In-Reply-To: <199907311733.KAA01937@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I am not a WINDOW expert (and always suspicious of Microsoft) but I am sure >there must be a good WIN uploader that is reliable - anyone? Check >Download.com for other free uploaders. > I've got links to a couple of them on my site. There's a long screed on the evils of email for binary file transmissions and in the midst of it all, there are links to places where ftp software can be downloaded for Mac or PC. Start with the How to send us files link to get to the screed. If you're a command line sorta person and you have TCP/IP installed on a Win box, you'll find a program called FTP.EXE on the path. Hop out to a command line, type FTP and you're on your way. Crude but effective. And seems to be quite reliable. It can also be scripted in BAT files and such. With a little fiddling, you can set up an icon on the desktop for a particular FTP action at a particular site, say Upload To My Web Site. Drag and drop files on it and it all happens pretty automatically. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 15:26:48-GMT,2948;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06100 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:26:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00995; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:19:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:16:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00694; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:16:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990802112036.008cd9a0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:20:36 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >This problem isn't an isolated incident. I haven't suggested that it is, or never intended to. Have done a bit more prodding with Distiller 3.02 and Word97 using the PDFmaker macros. It appears that you CAN get Word to behave. There seem to be two settings that control what happens: PDFMaker Prefs, General Tab, Convert Document Info. It appears that if this checkbox is cleared, you get "Microsoft Word - " in the Title field of the resulting PDF. Put a check next to it and you get whatever Word thinks is the document name in the PDF's Title field. Sometimes Word picks up the first few words of the document, sometimes not, and I haven't sorted out what governs that. It appears, then, that if you ask PDFMaker to convert document properties AND you set Word's File, Properties, Title to whatever you'd like it to be, you should get what you're after. It should be fairly simple to create a macro that picks up the document's filename and stuffs it into Properties, Title for you. I'm more of a PowerPoint geek when it comes to VBA coding, so I can't tell you exactly how this should be done, though. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 15:28:54-GMT,2211;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06154 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:28:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01203; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:21:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:19:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00931; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:18:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990802112310.008e54a0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:23:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF FILE NAME WEIRDNESS FROM WORD DOCS In-Reply-To: <199908010008.RAA44845@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >When the prompt comes up for the file name, it puts in the "Creator", in >this case "Microsoft Word" before the file name. I finally got it to do it, >but I don't know how, and it comes and goes, and stays. Darndest thing. > See my other response a couple msgs back, Rich. Check to see if turning the Convert Doc Info option on and off has any bearing on it. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 15:32:48-GMT,2992;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06277 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:32:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01765; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:26:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:23:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01513; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:23:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990802112730.008cd9a0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:27:30 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Splash Screen In-Reply-To: <003901bedbc1$67206560$f3c62e9c@liebeno> References: <199908010008.RAA44845@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >I would like to have my customer click on a desktop icon to start my PDF >"program" and have my logo on a splash screen come on screen for maybe 10 >seconds or so and then go to the start page of the PDF document. Can I do >this? > We got around this problem in a sort of underhanded way. The icon in question launches a small VB3 program that displays a splash screen, waits nn seconds, then launches a BAT file that in turn launches the PDF. You could do the same thing more cleanly with a later version of VB (ie, you probably wouldn't need the intermediate BAT file to do the dirty work for you), but you'd then have to install a meg worth of VB support files, and until that was done, the thing wouldn't run. IOW, it wouldn't work off a CD, for instance. VB3 has a lower overhead and doesn't need anything installed and registered, so long as the VB EXE can locate VBRUN300.DLL (which it will, so long as it's in the same directory as the EXE). Unfortunately, it's not as swift at launching other Win apps. Sigh. And if the whole thing needs to be OtherThanWin-compatible, forget I said anything. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 16:21:53-GMT,3430;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08147 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:21:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08126; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:17:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:13:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07721; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:13:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021613.JAA08225@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 09:05:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Vektor Graphics in Acrobat Exchange 4.0 From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > So my question is, how to copy these graphics not having a bitmap with > low quality in Word. Try the following to preserve your vector (a worthwhile cause IMHO) - In Exchange (3.x) or Acrobat (4.x): 1 - DOCUMENT/CROP your PDF page to the perimeter of the vector element you wish to isolate. 2 - EXPORT this PDF page as an EPS With Preview. In MS Word: 3 - INSERT/PICTURE/FROM FILE the EPS graphic. Possible problems... 1 - If your PDF contains embedded fonts that are not in your Operating System this technique probably won't work because the font will not embed in the EPS. 2 - Not all PDF to EPS exports parse successfully (in my limited experience). If your graphic has no fonts but still doesn't parse you can try opening the PDF in Adobe Illustrator - if it does parse there then you should be home free because you can save from Illustrator to EPS (with Preview). Those generally work with Word as inserted pictures. 3 - If you have problems with parsing because of fonts, try outlining the fonts of either the EPS or imported PDF in Illustrator. Then save to EPS for insertion. 4 - MS Word is not the friendliest vector/postscript host around. Try Quark, PageMaker, FrameMaker, or wait for InDesign - all which are built for the Postscript standard. InDesign will allow you to import the PDFs directly. If all else fails resort to bitmaps as described by Aandi - zoom in for better resolution, copy, and then paste. If you have problems with that then you might want to paste it into Photoshop to convert your bitmap to the resolution and size image you want. Then save this Photoshop file to TIF before importing into Word. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 16:33:18-GMT,2372;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08519 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:33:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09256; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:29:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:26:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08992; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:26:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021626.JAA16636@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 09:26:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Splash Screen From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > And if the whole thing needs to be OtherThanWin-compatible, forget I said > anything. A cross-platform solution would be to create a PDF of your splash screen and place it as a forms field icon squarely in the middle of the first page of your PDF. Since it is a forms field, it is an actionable item. You can program the action of the item to be a rollover that hides the splash screen whenever the user rolls the cursor over it. It will stay off until the user reopens the PDF. I don't know if you can program the actionable item to hide the splash screen after a determined interval. Javascript anyone? -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 15:39:27-GMT,2106;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06480 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:39:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02963; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:35:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:32:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02574; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:32:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021532.IAA31068@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 08:32:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>This problem isn't an isolated incident. > > Have done a bit more prodding with Distiller 3.02 and Word97 using the > PDFmaker macros. Steve: The problem that this thread has been addressing is *not* with the PDFMaker...it *is* with the Distiller Printer. That's where we need to find an on and off switch for eliminating the dreaded advertisement "Microsoft Word" in the file name. I can eliminate is easily...I just type in a new name. It was Mike Abrahmson who wanted it turned off. It is annoying. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 15:40:50-GMT,3250;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06501 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:40:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03168; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:36:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:34:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02868; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:34:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021534.KAA02861@everglades.binc.net> Date: 02 Aug 99 11:33:46 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: [PDF] RE: PDF Writer and Distiller To: pdf general list , Rich Sprague X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA02864 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: PDF Writer and Distiller >>>As far as the appearance of fonts goes, there should be *no* difference >>>between the PDF Writer and Distiller. >>> >>Not necessarily true. PDF Writer does not have the ability to correctly process >>the kerning information with all characters. (i.e. - #(){}%* etc. and text flagged >>as a style (italic, bold) on the same line as normal text). > >That's good information to know. Thanks. > >Is this a published and stated fact, or totally based on your experience. >Not that I doubt what you are saying, but does Adobe acknowledge and agree? > >r|i|c|h One important piece of information that I did omit is that if you are using _TrueType fonts_, and you wish to print the PDF in hardcopy form, then it's best to use Distiller. I spoke with Adobe at length about this (my notes/log # on that is eluding me at the moment). When I discussed this with Adobe, they wouldn't even address it and immediately said to try Distiller. I did, and the issue went away. As a side note, the PDF files in question were primarily using the standard 13 fonts. I then tried to get the "Why" from this list (It was discussed briefly in late February 99 on the PDF general list.) (look under "explanation of unhonored font spacing")) And I had it narrowed between PDF Writer and TrueType fonts. Not having any Type 1 fonts on my PC, my search stopped there. Sorry, I hope that clarifies things. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 15:41:46-GMT,2737;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06519 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:41:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03375; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:38:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:35:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03027; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:35:44 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990802113957.008f3c70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:39:57 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF FILE NAME WEIRDNESS FROM WORD DOCS In-Reply-To: <009701bedcec$3a708dc0$466564c8@MAbrahamson> References: <199908021232.FAA02650@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Hi guys. I was the one Rich was trying to help with this strange little >problem. And although it was not batch printing that I was attempting, >having to rename the file every week was not something I wanted to have to >train our (mostly computer-phobic) customers how to do. I guess there might >be a hidden advantage, however. If we teach them the right way to do it, it >could prevent a host of problems where they simply don't conform to our file >naming conventions. > See my other response a few msgs back. Have done some more prodding at it since, and it seems to have stuck. If you change your PDFMaker Prefs to Convert Document Info ON and ensure that the Doc info is the way you want it in Word, it should behave the way you want it to when you make PDFs, whether or not you have Distiller prompt for a filename. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 15:43:58-GMT,2118;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06636 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:43:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03569; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:39:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:37:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03293; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:37:26 -0500 From: DEngh@aol.com Message-ID: <639c1fc1.24d71525@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:37:09 EDT Subject: [PDF] using Photoshop to create PDF's To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've got Photoshop 4.) for Mac and Acrobat 3.0. I want to scan in printed booklets and documents to create PDF files, but the results so far have been poor. The system works (Photoshop will save to pdf and Acrobat will connect the pages together to reform the booklet), but the resulting pdf files are huge. I scanned in a 32-page booklet in greyscale, and the resulting pdf was well over 15M--way too big to email to anyone. what's the trick? I thought pdf's were supposed to small--at least the pdf booklets i've downloaded off the web have been small in image size. Thanks for the advice. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 15:54:10-GMT,3516;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07248 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:54:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04938; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:50:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:47:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04524; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:46:58 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@192.168.0.10 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <639c1fc1.24d71525@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:46:13 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: Re: [PDF] using Photoshop to create PDF's Cc: DEngh@aol.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Simple, Print to PostScript and Distill the PDF files. Using Photoshop is NOT the way to go. The same applies to using Illustrator. Neither application generates decent PDF files, your control is limited and you often end up with PDFs that do not have conversion parameters suitable for the task you wish to use them for. And on the issue of size; the size of a PDF file is related to number, type and size of the objects it contains. So do not look to compare arbitary PDF files. Again, my advice use Distiller after printing the image to a PostScript file. Then play around with the settings until you get a result you are happy wth. There is no magic formula here, there are some basic guidelines but to be honest with you, it comes down to what level of quality you are comfortable with. I v a n ... >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >I've got Photoshop 4.) for Mac and Acrobat 3.0. I want to scan in printed >booklets and documents to create PDF files, but the results so far have been >poor. The system works (Photoshop will save to pdf and Acrobat will connect >the pages together to reform the booklet), but the resulting pdf files are >huge. I scanned in a 32-page booklet in greyscale, and the resulting pdf was >well over 15M--way too big to email to anyone. > >what's the trick? I thought pdf's were supposed to small--at least the pdf >booklets i've downloaded off the web have been small in image size. Thanks >for the advice. >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ Ivan Markovic VLTEC Director of Information Technology Direct: 01 2402544 Mobile: 087 2939256 Fax: 01 2402501 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 16:48:44-GMT,3553;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09216 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10970; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:44:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:42:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10589; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:42:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021642.JAA47213@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 09:42:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] using Photoshop to create PDF's From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I've got Photoshop 4.) for Mac and Acrobat 3.0. I want to scan in printed > booklets and documents to create PDF files, but the results so far have been > poor. The system works (Photoshop will save to pdf and Acrobat will connect > the pages together to reform the booklet), but the resulting pdf files are > huge. I scanned in a 32-page booklet in greyscale, and the resulting pdf was > well over 15M--way too big to email to anyone. > > what's the trick? I thought pdf's were supposed to small--at least the pdf > booklets i've downloaded off the web have been small in image size. Thanks > for the advice. The advice I'm giving you was tested on Acrobat 4. You open Acrobat, then FILE > IMP0RT > SCAN. This launches your scanner. You should choose a setting which is equivalent to a 200 dpi fax. This scan made a file size of 51k (on a Mac). Fors 32 pages, this would make 1.6mb, or a 10th of what you are reporting the way you did it. FWIW, scanning into Photoshop and saving as a PDF made a 77k file, and scanning into Photoshop and saving as an EPS, then distilling with the Screen settings made a 60k file. I don't know why the two Photoshop file sizes are different...both use CCITT Group 4 compression. The scan made directly into Acrobat used ZIP compression. I did not do this, but you should print out hard copies of each scan for quality check. There is *always* an issue of file size v quality which needs to be addressed. You're the one that has to make the final decision of what's right for your use. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:09:14-GMT,2419;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10012 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:09:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13088; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:04:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:01:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12719; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:01:39 -0500 Message-Id: <37A5CFAB.7F247D62@ihs.com> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:04:43 -0600 From: Rebecca Hoag Organization: Information Handling Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Max Wyss Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] free watermarking tools? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Max, > one way to add watermarks to PDFs, mainly short ones, would be using a form > field with "print-only" set. I don't think this would be feasible as the technical documents we publish for our customers range from half a page to 1000+ pages... > Another possibility would be usind a printer driver which can place watermarks. > Since we have hundreds of customers, there are all kinds of printers out there to reckon with.. I am looking for a way to add watermarks to the pdf file before it leaves our door and ends up in the hands of our customers to do with it as they wish. Thanks for helping! Anybody out there know of a cheap watermarking tool? Rebecca Hoag Software Engineer Information Handling Services Englewood, Colorado _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:11:25-GMT,2483;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10068 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:11:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13404; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:07:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:05:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13157; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:05:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021643.JAA27715@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 09:37:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] using Photoshop to create PDF's From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > what's the trick? I thought pdf's were supposed to small--at least the pdf > booklets i've downloaded off the web have been small in image size. Thanks > for the advice. The trick is to use Exchange's DOCUMENT/CAPTURE on the Photoshop PDFs to convert them from huge bitmap files down to tiny OCR'd PDFs (with word processing text replacing the bitmaps of text). Depending on the use of graphics, the files should be smaller than 50K per page. See http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/compcapt.html for a more detailed explanation. Be sure to allocate alot of RAM memory to Exchange before using the Capture plug-in (64 megs or more) - this function, miracle that it is, is also a memory hog! -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:34:39-GMT,1932;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10722 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:34:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15664; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:30:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:27:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15372; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:27:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021727.KAA58039@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 10:27:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Converting Images From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>Is there a way to convert multiple (around 50) tif files into eps files >>easily and quickly? > > if using Mac, try the freeware Graphic Converter. This may be a very good solution, but since the application is shareware, the author would probably appreciate being paid $35.00 for its use. It's still a bargain at that price. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:34:38-GMT,2926;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10721 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:34:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15716; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:30:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:28:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15446; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:28:13 -0500 From: espresso@e-scape.net X-Sender: espresso@sage.e-scape.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:31:11 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ wrote: >My observation has been that Word appends "Microsoft Word - " to actual >file name so that the spool file would be "Microsoft Word - [file name >here]" Yes, that is one of those MS self-aggrandizing things, about which we can do nothing but signal our displeasure. However, you CAN change the same of the Word file before making your PDF-- at least I can on my Mac, and do so regularly because I much prefer to use filenames for pragmatic things like what the document is and in which version. Since the name of the spool file is taken from the original document, renaming the document itself should solve the problem. Being a born kludger, I do this in the document summary thingie as well as to the Word file externally, so that the invisible Word header and footer also contain the right name. It seems to work. On the other hand, I am puzzled over the reference to a dialog box which enables selection of file type but not a name change from within Word. Is this a new "feature" of the latest Windows version, or are people just being confused by the fact that Word shows the default name it would use, which CAN be edited in the dialog in previous versions of Word? Judyth ******************************************************** Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..." Montreal, QC, Canada ******************************************************** _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:34:49-GMT,2697;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10736 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:34:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15642; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:30:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:26:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15187; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:26:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990802133042.008893f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 13:30:42 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names In-Reply-To: <199908021532.IAA31068@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >The problem that this thread has been addressing is *not* with the >PDFMaker...it *is* with the Distiller Printer. That's where we need to find >an on and off switch for eliminating the dreaded advertisement "Microsoft >Word" in the file name. > OK, I hadn't made the distinction between "raw" Distiller Printer and the same driver with a PDFMaker shove from behind. Assuming that it's preferable to use Distiller Printer and not DP via PDFMaker for some reason, Distilling a whole group of PS files at a crack for example, rather than one at a time, one could probably write a simple program to examine and fix the %%Title comment in the PS ... search the %%Title line for the text "Microsoft Word - " and replace it with "" for example. Granted, one shouldn't HAVE to ... it's a nasty little habit, this business of advertising oneself in every PS file one writes. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:35:44-GMT,2211;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10769 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:35:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15923; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:32:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:29:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15536; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:29:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990802133348.008c1db0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 13:33:48 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Splash Screen In-Reply-To: <199908021626.JAA16636@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >A cross-platform solution would be to create a PDF of your splash screen and >place it as a forms field icon squarely in the middle of the first page of >your PDF. Since it is a forms field, it is an actionable item. > Very neat idea, Scott. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give this a try shortly. I'd much prefer not to have to drag all that VBschtuff along with the PDF. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:36:39-GMT,1897;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10804 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16115; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:32:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:30:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15687; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:30:29 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 13:29:16 -0400 From: "Judy Chen" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] batch processing to pdf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA15683 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ How does one batch process/convert documents (various software including FrameMaker, Excel, and Microsoft Word) into pdf? I've created a watch folder and put in some documents but nothing is happening (it is set to check every 10 seconds). Thanks in advance. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:36:42-GMT,2869;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10808 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:36:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16072; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:32:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:29:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15584; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:29:53 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] using Photoshop to create PDF's Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:29:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bedd0c$95662d00$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199908021643.JAA27715@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > what's the trick? I thought pdf's were supposed to > small--at least the pdf > > booklets i've downloaded off the web have been small in > image size. Thanks > > for the advice. I've often seen disappointed people who compare something made with scanning, with something made "properly", that is from an electronic original. The latter will almost always be better, and smaller. The former is nothing but a huge picture unless you take further action. My advice, for what it's worth, is that Scan or Import to Exchange is only part of the picture, and they should never be done alone. Only EVER use them in conjunction with (Paper) Capture. Not everyone agrees with this advice, but I suspect they are not too sensitive to file size. You should think hard about whether you want OCR, with its promise of small files, but also many happy hours checking and correcting OCR errors. If you do not correct the errors, the file remains pretty big. If not, you should scan at the lowest acceptable resolution, place into a document and convert to PDF that way (i.e. through Distiller). Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:38:00-GMT,2478;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10867 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:37:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16387; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:34:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:31:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15886; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:31:52 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] free watermarking tools? Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:31:32 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bedd0c$dc81e940$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37A5CFAB.7F247D62@ihs.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > one way to add watermarks to PDFs, mainly short ones, would > be using a form > > field with "print-only" set. > > I don't think this would be feasible as the technical > documents we publish for our > customers range from half a page to 1000+ pages... ... > I am looking for a way to add watermarks to > the pdf file before it > leaves our door and ends up in the hands of our customers to > do with it as they > wish. You aren't likely to find anything cheaper than the forms tool if you already have Acrobat. I don't understand your objection to using the forms tool simply because you have many pages. You can duplicate a field to all pages quickly. It will make the file bigger, but so will any watermarking system. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:39:41-GMT,3945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10892 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:39:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16591; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:35:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:33:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16205; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:33:16 -0500 Message-ID: <1E65AEBEE20CD311AB4E00A0C9EAD235110077@WIEXCH01> From: "Roller, Sylvia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] free watermarking tools? Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:33:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEDD0D.2F212AEE" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDD0D.2F212AEE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Rebecca, This may not be what you're asking for at all, and it's coming from someone who is VERY much a newbie at PDF so it's probably a much more basic solution than you need, but here goes. I am working now with procedure files for my company that need to be watermarked to say Convenience Copy, etc. before they can be free for anyone else to print. I am working with Word 97 and Acrobat 4.0. I am using Word to create the watermark before I convert to PDF and it works very well. Of course, it's going to be a lot of work to create watermarks on every file one at a time but there are also other things I'm doing to the files (mostly format changes at this point) before converting them to PDF. Anyway, it works for me. :) Sylvia ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDD0D.2F212AEE Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] free watermarking tools?

Hi Rebecca,

This may not be what you're asking for at all, and = it's coming from someone who is VERY much a newbie at PDF so it's = probably a much more basic solution than you need, but here goes.  = I am working now with procedure files for my company that need to be = watermarked to say Convenience Copy, etc.  before they can be free = for anyone else to print.  I am working with Word 97 and Acrobat = 4.0.  I am using Word to create the watermark before I convert to = PDF and it works very well.  Of course, it's going to be a lot of = work to create watermarks on every file one at a time but there are = also other things I'm doing to the files (mostly format changes at this = point) before converting them to PDF.  Anyway, it works for me. = :)

Sylvia

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDD0D.2F212AEE-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:41:28-GMT,7972;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10960 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:41:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16869; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:37:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:35:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16513; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:35:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Sheila Mahoney To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] free watermarking tools? Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:36:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="---- =_NextPart_001_01BEDD0D.89F9DCE0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_001_01BEDD0D.89F9DCE0 Content-Type: text/plain You may want to try Digital Applications, Inc- http://www.digapp.com I think they have some watermarking capabilities and the price isn't too bad > -----Original Message----- > From: Rebecca Hoag [SMTP:rhoag@ihs.com] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 1:05 PM > To: Max Wyss > Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] free watermarking tools? > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Max, > > > one way to add watermarks to PDFs, mainly short ones, would be using > a form > > field with "print-only" set. > > I don't think this would be feasible as the technical documents we > publish for our > customers range from half a page to 1000+ pages... > > > Another possibility would be usind a printer driver which can place > watermarks. > > > > Since we have hundreds of customers, there are all kinds of printers > out there to > reckon with.. I am looking for a way to add watermarks to the pdf > file before it > leaves our door and ends up in the hands of our customers to do with > it as they > wish. > > Thanks for helping! Anybody out there know of a cheap watermarking > tool? > > Rebecca Hoag > Software Engineer > Information Handling Services > Englewood, Colorado > > > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ ------ =_NextPart_001_01BEDD0D.89F9DCE0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] free watermarking tools?

You may want to try = Digital Applications, Inc- http://www.digapp.com

    I think they have = some watermarking capabilities and the price isn't too bad
    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Rebecca Hoag [SMTP:rhoag@ihs.com]
    Sent:   Monday, August 02, 1999 1:05 PM
    To:     Max Wyss
    Cc:     pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
    Subject:       = Re: [PDF] free watermarking = tools?


    The PDF list is = sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/
    _________________________________________________________= _________

    Max,

    > one way to add = watermarks to PDFs, mainly short ones, would be using a form
    > field with = "print-only" set.

    I don't think this = would be feasible as the technical documents we publish for our
    customers range = from half a page to 1000+ pages...

    > Another = possibility would be usind a printer driver which can place = watermarks.
    >

    Since we have = hundreds of customers, there are all kinds of printers out there = to
    reckon with..  = I am looking for a way to add watermarks to the pdf file before = it
    leaves our door and = ends up in the hands of our customers to do with it as they
    wish.

    Thanks for = helping!  Anybody out there know of a cheap watermarking = tool?

    Rebecca Hoag
    Software = Engineer
    Information = Handling Services
    Englewood, = Colorado




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------ =_NextPart_001_01BEDD0D.89F9DCE0-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:48:31-GMT,4334;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11182 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:48:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17804; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:44:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:42:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17439; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:42:20 -0500 Message-ID: <37A5D2F6.80BA0693@comcom.com> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 12:18:46 -0500 From: Pat Leone-Thiel Organization: Commercial Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF Files References: <199908021422.JAA27856@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Justin Blocksom wrote: > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Reply to: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF Files > >As far as the appearance of fonts goes, there should be *no* difference > >between the PDF Writer and Distiller. > > Not necessarily true. PDF Writer does not have the ability to correctly process > the kerning information with all characters. (i.e. - #(){}%* etc. and text flagged > as a style (italic, bold) on the same line as normal text). (I know this all too well > as I wrestled with this for 3 or 4 months last year printing PDF Writer PDF's > created from Microsoft products to Xerox digital printers.) > The tricky part is that it IS an area that sometimes defies WYSIWYG viewing, because the problem can be present (characters with severe negative kerning > values) and look fine on screen, but the truth always comes out when the document > is printed. Moral of the story? Avoid PDF Writer. If you are looking for printability of > a PDF file, use Distiller. > > Justin Blocksom > Digital Production Group > Printing & Publications Corp. > jblocksom@printandpub.com I'm new to this thread, but have to express my support of Mr. Blacksom's recommendation, "Avoid PDF Writer" and add AT ALL COSTS! I can add that even Adobe technical support has suggested the same to me on two occassions. While the fonts in several thousand pages of PDFs viewed correctly, the speed at which the pages displayed was almost intolerable for the service technicians using the files. Even with the Preference/General/Smooth Text and Monochrome Images set to False, the display time of each page was EXTREMELY slow compared to other PDFs created with a different workflow but same source application. I'd used PDFWriter as my print option out of Interleaf 6.4 (Win95) to "Publish" Interleaf books because alternative workflows weren't acceptable at the time. For my current project I'm using Interleaf 7 (Win95) to "Publish" Interleaf books with better results because the process/path is actually Printerleaf->Postscript->Distiller->PDF. I'm still using Distiller 3.02 and set up my Distiller Options before I start Publishing... the PDFs display very quickly, and so far correctly. Thanks for the forum. Very interesting. -- Patricia Leone-Thiel ----------------------------------------------------------- Special Applications Manager pleone@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. ph(414)369-6000 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive fx(414)369-5647 Hartland, WI 53029 1-800-362-8832 ----------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 17:57:26-GMT,2021;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11445 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:57:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18925; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:54:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:51:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18591; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0B1F5F@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Richard Crocker To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] free watermarking tools? Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 03:51:35 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It is worth investigating the use of form fields as you can easily apply them to all pages of a doc in one step (and it's free). Here's a couple of examples to get you started. Setting up your PDF template http://www.acrobuddies.com/mainpage.asp?MenuID=139&WebPageID=343 Applying a form field to all pages http://www.codecuts.com/mainpage.asp?menuid=150&webpageid=346 Regards, Richard Crocker rich@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com A Round Table Solution _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 18:11:48-GMT,2028;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11877 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:11:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19808; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:02:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:00:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19504; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:00:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021800.LAA65753@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:00:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] batch processing to pdf From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: CHENJUDY@olympus.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > How does one batch process/convert documents (various software including > FrameMaker, Excel, and Microsoft Word) into pdf? I've created a watch > folder and put in some documents but nothing is happening (it is set to > check every 10 seconds). Judy: I hate to ask you these questions, but: 1. Are you putting in PostScript files into your Watched Folder? 2. Is Distiller launched/running? r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 18:13:33-GMT,2125;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11920 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:13:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20429; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:10:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:07:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20216; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:07:48 -0500 From: steve_russell@us.ibm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567C1.006391DA.00@d54mta03.raleigh.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:07:05 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Byteserving.... delay in opening first page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Robert, thanks for the comments. Sounds like I might be stuck with the problem as I've found nothing that lets me modify how FrameMaker handles the data (other than not including it at all, which is no use). What I don't understand is why Adobe would design a product that displays this problem when they own both the creation and the delivery tools. Steve Russell ======== >Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:03:27 -0500 >From: Robert Casey >Subject: [PDF] Byteserving.... delay in opening first page >Steve, I have a similar problem with Ventura Publisher. ......... _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 18:13:47-GMT,2174;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11928 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20428; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:10:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:07:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20183; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:07:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021807.LAA67491@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:07:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > On the other hand, I am puzzled over the reference to a dialog box which > enables selection of file type but not a name change from within Word. Is > this a new "feature" of the latest Windows version, or are people just > being confused by the fact that Word shows the default name it would use, > which CAN be edited in the dialog in previous versions of Word? The name can easily be edited, it just defaults to the MS Word stuff. FWIW, if one is to print to file, the Word advertising is not included when the dialog box comes up asking for file name and save location. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 18:19:51-GMT,2459;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12136 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:19:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21265; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:16:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:14:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21004; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:14:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199908021814.NAA20999@everglades.binc.net> From: "Kitchen, James x1298" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] free watermarking tools? Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:18:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You can print the file back through distillister using Acro 4 and place a watermark on all the resulting pages of the PDF Hope this helps, it is how we handle it. James Kitchen GENICOM ---------- Max, > one way to add watermarks to PDFs, mainly short ones, would be using a form > field with "print-only" set. I don't think this would be feasible as the technical documents we publish for our customers range from half a page to 1000+ pages... > Another possibility would be usind a printer driver which can place watermarks. > Since we have hundreds of customers, there are all kinds of printers out there to reckon with.. I am looking for a way to add watermarks to the pdf file before it leaves our door and ends up in the hands of our customers to do with it as they wish. Thanks for helping! Anybody out there know of a cheap watermarking tool? Rebecca Hoag Software Engineer Information Handling Services Englewood, Colorado _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 18:42:35-GMT,3012;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13170 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:42:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23579; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:38:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:35:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23261; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:35:52 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37A5CFAB.7F247D62@ihs.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:33:48 +0200 To: Rebecca Hoag From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] free watermarking tools? Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You're welcome, Rebecca, If I understand correctly, you need the watermark to be distributed in your documents, and not activated under certain circumstances. In this case, both possibilities would still be possible. Assumed that you are using Framemaker for your documents (there is not that much else around for such long documents anyway), you could predefine the watermark field in the master pages. You would use a basic EPS with the appropriate PDFMARK commands. The other possibility would be using a printer driver with watermark capability when you create the PS files for distilling. Hope, this can help further. Take care. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ _______________ >I don't think this would be feasible as the technical documents we publish >for our >customers range from half a page to 1000+ pages... > >> Another possibility would be usind a printer driver which can place >>watermarks. >> > >Since we have hundreds of customers, there are all kinds of printers out >there to >reckon with.. I am looking for a way to add watermarks to the pdf file >before it >leaves our door and ends up in the hands of our customers to do with it as >they >wish. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 21:13:13-GMT,1991;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18112 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:13:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04909; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:04:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:00:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04460; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:00:45 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:59:22 -0400 From: "Judy Chen" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] mass distillation of non-post script files? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA04456 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there a way to mass distill non post script files to pdf? I was told that making files post script is necessary first, but don't the files have to individually be changed? Basically, is there a FAST way to mass convert regular files (from different applications) to pdf when they are not in post script? Thank you for your help. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 21:17:52-GMT,2304;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18260 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:17:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05927; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:14:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:11:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05619; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:11:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199908022111.OAA06828@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 14:11:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] mass distillation of non-post script files? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is there a way to mass distill non post script files to pdf? I was told > that making files post script is necessary first, but don't the files have > to individually be changed? Basically, is there a FAST way to mass convert > regular files (from different applications) to pdf when they are not in > post script? Judy: You can only distill PostScript files and, in certain cases, EPS files. You can print to the Acrobat Distiller printer driver which makes the necessary PostScript in the background, before distilling the file (Windoze only). Certain applications like InDesign, and CorelDraw, will make a PDF without Distiller. But, again, that's one file at a time. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 21:27:04-GMT,2602;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18538 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06591; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:22:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:19:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06239; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:19:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] mass distillation of non-post script files? Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:18:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bedd2c$a06621e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is there a way to mass distill non post script files to pdf? A contradiction in terms really, since distilling *is* the process of converting PostScript to PDF. > I was told that making files post script is necessary first, > but don't the files have to individually be changed? Individually PRINTED to PostScript. > Basically, is there a FAST way to mass convert regular files > (from different applications) to pdf when they are not in post script? It depends on the application. Some applications have a macro or automation facility that allows this to be done easily. Others would allow you to drag files onto the icon for the Acrobat 4.0 printer icon easily. There is not, and cannot be, a general solution for every type of file, so you need to ask specific questions about every single file type you plan to convert. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 23:36:42-GMT,2061;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22281 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:36:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17583; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:31:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:30:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17407; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:30:19 -0500 Message-ID: <00c401bedd40$30ef09d0$0300000a@nt-server.TGIASO> From: "ron" To: Subject: [PDF] PDFWriter 4.0 w/ 3.0 Compatibility Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:38:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please accept my apologies for asking this as I am sure it has been discussed. I cannot find any more help in the archives. On July 7, pertaining to a question of PDFWriter 4.0 and 3.0 compatibility greyed out, Rich responded that as a default is should produce 1.2 files. This has not been the case for me. How do I print from PDFWriter 4.0 w/ 3.0 compatibility? Thanks, Ron Culp TGIASO, Inc. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-1999 23:52:41-GMT,2061;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22684 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:52:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19054; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:48:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:47:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18971; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:47:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199908022347.QAA41710@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:47:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFWriter 4.0 w/ 3.0 Compatibility From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > On July 7, pertaining to a question of PDFWriter 4.0 and 3.0 compatibility > greyed out, Rich responded that as a default is should produce 1.2 files. > This has not been the case for me. How do I print from PDFWriter 4.0 w/ 3.0 > compatibility? Ron: Enclosed is a link to a tech doc from Adobe that clearly states that PDFs produced with PDFWriter 4 *are* 3x compatible. http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/1a152.htm r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 0:07:19-GMT,1899;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23018 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:07:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20446; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:03:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:02:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20329; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:02:16 -0500 Message-ID: <00da01bedd44$a65d4e80$0300000a@nt-server.TGIASO> From: "ron" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFWriter 4.0 w/ 3.0 Compatibility Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:10:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich, Please accept my apologies. I am reminded of the words of Mark Twain, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." I shall look much further before asking again. Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 1:49:59-GMT,2801;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25411 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:49:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28916; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:44:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:42:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28745; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:42:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199908030142.SAA65848@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:42:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFWriter 4.0 w/ 3.0 Compatibility From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: rfculp2@tgiaso.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Rich, > > Please accept my apologies. I am reminded of the words of Mark Twain, "It is > better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open ones mouth and > remove all doubt." > > I shall look much further before asking again. Ron: You neither owe me an apology or are a fool. This public forum is a place to say, "I'm stuck. I don't understand. I need help." There are no judgments cast. I've asked for help; and I've responded to many requests. A few times I've totally blown it when I've given advice, and eaten humble pie and crow. Ugly combination. But I'm still here. And only one person has flamed me to date...there are probably others who have resisted. The reason I asked you to send a file is because sometimes I can look at a it and see how it's made, or find something wrong with it. This goes a long way to helping rather than just pulling straws out of a hat and saying, I think... Use the forum to your advantage. Ask your questions. There are many wonderful people in various fields around the world who are poised to reply. That's pretty special. The day you stop asking, is when you stop learning. Then you would be a fool. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 6:00:56-GMT,2822;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01252 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:00:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15203; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:53:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:49:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14798; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:49:50 -0500 Message-ID: <01f701bedd74$ca759180$214315a5@pc33> From: "Dr Cheng" To: "PDF Zone Online" Subject: [PDF] Is there anyway to automate the bookmarking process in Acrobat 4.0? Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:55:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F4_01BEDDB7.D85D4F20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01F4_01BEDDB7.D85D4F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Is there anyway to automate the bookmarking process in Acrobat 4.0? Are there any plug-ins or 3rd party software avaliable to do it? 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------=_NextPart_000_01F4_01BEDDB7.D85D4F20-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 9:08:02-GMT,2443;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05597 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 03:08:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27941; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:00:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 03:56:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA27634; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 03:56:19 -0500 From: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" To: Subject: [PDF] Removal of form button interdependency within a mult-page PDF Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:50:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bedd8d$3ca18c60$ab7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Guys, I am looking a quick and easy way to remove form button interdependency within a multi-page PDF. I have may multi-page image-only PDFs that have form buttons used to back-navigate to a 'home' page. The problem is that since each page has different dimensions, the form button appears at a different position on each page within the PDF. If I correct (say) page one, then the button on (say) page two moves as well. If I page through the PDF, the button jumps around to different places on the pages! Does any know how to remove this interdependency while still keeping the buttons? I would like to be able to position the button on each page at top left. TIA Darryl Lucas _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 9:34:12-GMT,1962;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06206 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 03:34:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA30056; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:28:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:27:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA29997; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:27:30 -0500 Message-ID: <00c301bedd92$6a64b0a0$3312fea9@poptel.org.uk> From: "Pat Coyne" To: References: <000a01bedd0c$dc81e940$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Subject: [PDF] Catalog automation Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:26:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know of any plug-in, utility or whatever that would allow automatic operation of Catalog, so that it would be possible to set index parameters and names and then index files? Pat Coyne Electric Book Co www.elecbook.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 10:13:30-GMT,2817;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07113 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:13:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA32275; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 05:00:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:59:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA32133; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:59:00 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567C2.003B860C.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:57:23 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] mass distillation of non-post script files? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Judy, Is there a way to mass distill non post script files to pdf? I was told that making files post script is necessary first, but don't the files have to individually be changed? Basically, is there a FAST way to mass convert regular files (from different applications) to pdf when they are not in post script? as already said, you convert docs to pdf by PRINTING them with a PostScript printerdriver. To make sure the layout will persist, the application in that generated the document would be best to print from (*.doc with Word; *.xls with Excel, ...) Maybe there are applications that understand all of your document formats and have a batch print command. Maybe there are tools that will control your applications (Word, Excel) by DDE. I don't know any. Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 11:28:15-GMT,2894;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08693 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 05:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA04597; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:15:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:14:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04522; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:14:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199903210056.TAA03043@mx01.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 07:08:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [PDF] CorelDRAW 9 and "Robust PDF support" From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Throw all Corel products away! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Will Mitchell Reply to: mailto:Will@OffsetHouse.com The Offset House- http://www.OffsetHouse.com 89 Sand Hill Rd | PO Box 8929 | Essex VT 05451 ph 802-878-4440 | fx 802-879-4865 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------- >From: George Johnson >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] CorelDRAW 9 and "Robust PDF support" >Date: Thu, Jul 29, 1999, 10:26 PM > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I was looking into the new CorelDRAW 9 suite and came across the following > in a list of suite-wide features: > > "Robust PDF support, including import and export, job ticketing, > bookmarks, image downsampling and more" > > I would appreciate comments from anyone with experience using these > features. Also, how is it for PDF source document creation in general? > > Thanks! > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 11:36:32-GMT,2753;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08887 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 05:36:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05713; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:29:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:28:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05620; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:28:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Glunz Wolfgang To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Vektor Graphics in Acrobat Exchange 4.0 Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:27:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You might be interested in importps which can extract single pages from a .pdf file into Word as vector graphic. For more info see: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/1958/importps/ Wolfgang > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Gnewuch [SMTP:tg@contact.de] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 11:20 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Vektor Graphics in Acrobat Exchange 4.0 > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > My problem is to copy some vektor graphics from Exchange to another > application like Word 97. When I mark my graphics in Exchange, copy them > and > later paste it into Word, I only have some bitmaps in my Word document. So > my question is, how to copy these graphics not having a bitmap with low > quality in Word. > > Any idea > Thanks > Thomas G. > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 12:07:59-GMT,3396;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA09548 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:07:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08773; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:02:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:01:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08594; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:01:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:04:55 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: List Administrator Subject: [PDF] ADMIN: IMPORTANT Netiquette Reminder Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please do your part to fight "list bloat" by following the policy about editing previous posts to which you are replying back to the entire subscriber list. 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PDFzone.com Lists ListOwner _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 13:05:02-GMT,2078;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10872 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:04:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13265; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:54:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:52:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13059; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:52:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:50:26 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199908030851_MC2-7F9E-5E1E@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA13055 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Maybe Microsoft changed something in one of the burns of Office and didn't tell anyone.< Just a side note... Many vendors "Slipstream" software builds during distribution to resolve earlier technical problems. This improves software reliability..... Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown author) mvorel@compuserve.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 13:12:32-GMT,2366;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11027 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:12:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14412; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:07:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:06:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14274; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:06:18 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990803091025.0088d1d0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:10:25 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] batch processing to pdf In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >How does one batch process/convert documents (various software including FrameMaker, Excel, and Microsoft Word) into pdf? I've created a watch folder and put in some documents but nothing is happening (it is set to check every 10 seconds). > Distiller has to be running, and if running will only wake up and process PostScript files. You'll have to make those from your documents and place the PS files in the watched folders, not the documuments themselves. Unless Distiller 4's got some new magic in it that the previous versions didn't. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 13:16:48-GMT,2159;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11164 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:16:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14987; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:12:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:11:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14722; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:11:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990803091542.008f85e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:15:42 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Byteserving.... delay in opening first page In-Reply-To: <852567C1.006391DA.00@d54mta03.raleigh.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >than not including it at all, which is no use). What I don't understand is why >Adobe would design a product that displays this problem when they own both the >creation and the delivery tools. > Own but didn't write in both cases, don't forget. Adobe bought Frame, they didn't write it in house. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 13:27:22-GMT,2257;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11438 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15849; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:21:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:20:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15645; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:20:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990803092438.008d0a30@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:24:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] mass distillation of non-post script files? In-Reply-To: <412567C2.003B860C.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Maybe there are tools that will control your applications (Word, Excel) by >DDE. > I believe she mentioned Word 97 upthread somewhere. I seem to recall reading that Word 97 and onward no longer support DDE. On the other hand, it shouldn't be that difficult to create a Word VBA macro that opens, prints, then closes each file in a directory. I've seen similar things done for PowerPoint. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 13:33:21-GMT,2293;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11591 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:33:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16545; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:28:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:27:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16410; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:27:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990803091835.008fa1e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:18:35 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names In-Reply-To: <199908021807.LAA67491@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >FWIW, if one is to print to file, the Word advertising is not included when >the dialog box comes up asking for file name and save location. > No. In that case, unless you beat it with your cudgel (which by now you've learned to keep handy when working in Word) it appends .PRN to whatever filename you give it. Myfile.PS.PRN How useful. (Yup, I know you can put the name you want in quotes and His Billness will leave it alone. But why should that be necessary?) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 15:44:31-GMT,2305;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15233 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:44:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29226; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:38:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:36:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29005; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:36:08 -0500 Message-ID: <37A70D69.DB2@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 08:40:25 -0700 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Trouble scanning w/ Acrobat 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Greetings all. I have a pc (Win95) that has Capture 2.01 (I know, lucky me), anyways, I just upgraded from Exchange 3.01 to the new Acrobat 4.0 (again, lucky me) and now I can not scan using Acrobat. It does not recognize my scanner, and further more there is no set up, or configure button available. I am still able to use Capture no problem to scan docs, but if I want to scan in a single page to a document directly via Acrobat- no go. I am using an Epson 1200-C scanner with Twain drivers if that makes a difference. Do I need to Uninstall both Capture and Acrobat, then reinstall Acrobat first, then Capture? Any suggestions from you knowledgable people would be appreciated. Thank you in advance, Lawrence Spear Creativists and PDF enthusiast _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 15:53:11-GMT,4032;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15495 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:53:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30393; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:48:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:47:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30233; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:47:15 -0500 Message-ID: <008601beddc7$57fa3b80$5518fed0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Is there anyway to automate the bookmarking process in Acrobat 4.0? Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:40:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01BEDD8B.E51E1860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BEDD8B.E51E1860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try Compose. I've had great success using this. SueG -----Original Message----- From: Dr Cheng To: PDF Zone Online Date: Monday, August 02, 1999 11:25 PM Subject: [PDF] Is there anyway to automate the bookmarking process = in Acrobat 4.0? =20 =20 Hi! =20 Is there anyway to automate the bookmarking process in Acrobat 4.0? Are there any plug-ins or 3rd party software avaliable to do it? Sandy ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BEDD8B.E51E1860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0067_01BEDD8B.E51E1860-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 16:17:43-GMT,3346;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16214 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00273; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:13:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:12:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00080; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:12:28 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:03:10 -0600 From: "Hagar, Laura M" Subject: RE: [PDF] Trouble scanning w/ Acrobat 4.0 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Larry, We've been through what you're going through now. Adobe told me that Acrobat 4.0 doesn't use Twain Drivers (Exchange 3.x does). Instead 4.0 uses ISIS drivers. Check with Adobe to be sure. That could be the problem. It was for us. Laura Hagar Lockheed Martin Astronautics Documentation > ---------- > From: L. Spear[SMTP:londog@ix.netcom.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 9:40 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Trouble scanning w/ Acrobat 4.0 > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Greetings all. > > I have a pc (Win95) that has Capture 2.01 (I know, lucky me), anyways, I > just upgraded from Exchange 3.01 to the new Acrobat 4.0 (again, lucky > me) and now I can not scan using Acrobat. It does not recognize my > scanner, and further more there is no set up, or configure button > available. I am still able to use Capture no problem to scan docs, but > if I want to scan in a single page to a document directly via Acrobat- > no go. I am using an Epson 1200-C scanner with Twain drivers if that > makes a difference. > > Do I need to Uninstall both Capture and Acrobat, then reinstall Acrobat > first, then Capture? > > Any suggestions from you knowledgable people would be appreciated. > > Thank you in advance, > Lawrence Spear > Creativists and PDF enthusiast > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 16:41:33-GMT,1928;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16935 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:41:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02338; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:32:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:31:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02103; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:31:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199908031631.LAA02098@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:34:02 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] web pages In-Reply-To: <008601beddc7$57fa3b80$5518fed0@sue> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I am curious about the "open web page" option within acrobat 4. Is there a way to download a website but only retain the bookmarks (levels of linked pages). Basically I need a map of the website to show up and not the actual website. Is this possible with any type of program on a Windows platform? thanks _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 18:14:07-GMT,1960;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19693 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11463; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:10:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:08:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11230; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:08:18 -0500 Message-ID: <37A73002.9A323E3F@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 11:08:02 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Removal of form button interdependency within a mult-page PDF References: <000001bedd8d$3ca18c60$ab7175c1@win95> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I suspect you may have a form authored with an old version of Acrobat which had some bug. I suggest switching to Acrobat 4.0. Remove the duplicate form fields from pages 2...n, and then use the menu item Tools->Forms->Fields->Duplicate to create the duplicates one more time. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 18:41:51-GMT,1869;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20476 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:41:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14693; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:38:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:37:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14597; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:37:25 -0500 From: steve_russell@us.ibm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567C2.00663C0B.00@d54mta03.raleigh.ibm.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:36:12 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Re: Byteserving.... delay in opening first page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've only been using FM for six months and not familiar with its history. No matter; I'd say it has sufficient user impact that is should be a priority to fix (though not necessarily an easy task). >Own but didn't write in both cases, don't forget. Adobe bought Frame, they >didn't write it in house. Steve Russell _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 19:10:56-GMT,1999;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21389 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:10:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17279; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:04:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:03:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17148; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:03:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:02:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ RE <> United Parcel Service (UPS) has a service that does exactly this. As an option, the sender can find out whether/when the intended recipient downloaded the file. To find out about it, go to www.ups.com and click on "UPS Document Exchange." - C _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 20:06:40-GMT,2031;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23016 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:06:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22726; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:02:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:00:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22512; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:00:36 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: Graphic Converter Date: Tue, 3 Aug 99 16:00:20 -0400 x-sender: ideaslists@mail.ideasdtp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: David Creamer To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: <19990803200023.RDHE12664@[12.77.152.70]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ owner-pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com's original post: >> if using Mac, try the freeware Graphic Converter. > >This may be a very good solution, but since the application is shareware, >the author would probably appreciate being paid $35.00 for its use. It's >still a bargain at that price. > >r|i|c|h Opps... I knew that. I wish I could blame it on bad typing, but I used the wrong phrase. Thanks, Rich, for catching my error. Dave Creamer I.D.E.A.S. www.ideasdtp.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 20:15:08-GMT,2874;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23269 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:15:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23629; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:12:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:10:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23276; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:10:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:10:18 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] What are you calling Slipstream, please? To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199908031610_MC2-7FA6-DF84@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA23272 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by "Hagar, Laura M" >Could you please explain what you mean by the term "slipstream"? And, how it would improve software reliability? Please reply to all (see respondents above). Thanks Laura< Slipstream is a term I noticed in some software industry magazines to indicate software has been upgraded or corrected, but the vendor is not publicizing these "fixes" to the mass market. Many times it is difficult to determine versions unless you look at the build level or patch level, normally identifiable in a "Help" or "About" window. As for reliability, since the software has fixed known bugs or problems it is by nature more stable and reliable. The kick-in-the-pants, is that on some occasions there are problems with file compatibility due to these corrections. A little education and forewarning goes a long way for the community that cares and lives and dies by compatibility. I have experienced this nuance more than once with one of the large software vendors that produces an Office Suite. Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown) mvorel@compuserve.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 20:57:44-GMT,1927;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24667 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:57:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27377; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:53:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:52:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27220; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:52:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:50:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I don't recommend sending PDF files as e-mail attachments. However, if you are going to do it, you should make a SELF-EXTRACTING zip file. If you do this, the recipients won't need any software to open the file -- all they have to do is double-click on the file's icon. - Cynthia Leslie Citation Software Inc. www.citationsoftware.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 20:58:31-GMT,1953;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24700 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:58:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27560; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:55:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:54:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27445; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:54:27 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990803135756.00bd55d0@devmail> X-Sender: wdouglas@devmail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:00:42 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Wayne Douglass Subject: RE: [PDF] free watermarking tools? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The prologue.ps file in the Distillr\Data directory isn't good enough for what you have in mind? --Wayne --------------------------------------------- Wayne Douglass phone: 408-542-2139 Verity, Inc. FAX: 408-542-2040 894 Ross Road mailto:wayned@verity.com Sunnyvale, CA 94089 http://www.verity.com --------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 21:12:42-GMT,1925;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25073 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:12:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28832; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:09:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:07:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28714; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:07:18 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting a PCL file to PDF format Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:06:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On 07/30/1999, tsequeira@symcorinc.ca wrote: >...I have been asked to convert a PCL >file to PDF >format. >What is a PCL file and how do you convert it to PDF format? You might want to check out Transverter Pro from Tech Pool Software. www.techpool.com - Cynthia Leslie Citation Software Inc. www.citationsoftware.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 21:35:50-GMT,2149;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25820 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:35:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31454; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:32:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:31:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31249; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:31:18 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 22:30:46 +0100 Message-ID: <003d01beddf7$73294e20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I don't recommend sending PDF files as e-mail attachments. > However, if you > are going to do it, you should make a SELF-EXTRACTING zip > file. If you do > this, the recipients won't need any software to open the file > -- all they > have to do is double-click on the file's icon. Well, that depends. Do you execute attachments that arrive as programs? I don't. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 21:39:06-GMT,2737;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25941 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:39:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31689; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:35:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:34:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31605; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:34:46 -0500 Message-ID: <37A7617A.2830@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:39:07 -0700 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Need help with Catalog, please. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Greetings all: I am having difficulty all of a sudden with Catalog since upgrading to Acrobat 4.0. I have one index that shows 9943 files indexed in it. When I try to perform a search via the Gen. Doc. Info Fields I am repeatedly getting this message: "This doc could not be found: it has either been moved, deleted, or you don't have permission to view it." * First off, I just created a new index of these files. * All the PDF files are Image Only, with the Gen. Doc. Info Fields filled in with all necessary data. Prior to updating I had no problem with this. * When I do a search the results show, I can then go into that files folder and open it that way- no problem, just not when i use search by Gen. Doc. Info Fields. * All Docs are saved with standard security settings with no password. the only option not allowed is changing the document. * These pdf files were created using either Capture 2.01, or Exchange 3.01. If anyone might know why this is happening, I sure would like to know. So far this has affected 30 pdf files that I know of, perhaps more. I appreciate all feed back on this brain teazer. Thanks in advance, Lawrence Spear Creativist and PDF enthusiast _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 21:52:57-GMT,3023;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26293 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:52:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00493; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:49:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:48:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00383; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:48:37 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@pdfzone.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908031808.NAA11249@everglades.binc.net> References: <199908031808.NAA11249@everglades.binc.net> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:47:40 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ListOwner Subject: Re: [PDF] ADMIN - Constructive criticisms, *not* rants Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Throw all ________ products away! Time Out! There are heated discussions here from time to time, sometimes dealing with a specific company and/or product. From the very launch of this list four years ago, our goal has been to maintain a professional level of discourse. That does *not* mean that companies and products are above criticism on the list. However, when you choose to make a public criticism -- or condemnation, as in the example above, we require a higher standard than many other lists. We -- the list hosts *and* the subscriber community -- deserve to know one's motivation, level of experience and any relevant affilliations you may have that could play a role in a widely broadcast criticism. We want facts. With such background, constructive criticisms are indeed appropriate -- there are sufficient details provided for the company or another user to address the comments. It's not uncommon that an alleged shortcoming resulted -- at least in part -- from user malfunction. So, in short, please resist & desist making unsubstantiated attacks on these email discussion lists. Constructive criticism should also be civil -- and professional. Repeat violations of this policy can lead to removal from the list. If you have questions about this, please feel free to contact PDFzone.com *directly* at: . _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 22:22:11-GMT,2088;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27233 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:22:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03413; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:18:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:16:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03230; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:16:17 -0500 Message-ID: <00dd01beddfd$e41999e0$fcd8e1cf@wordcruncher.com> From: "James W. Johnston" To: Subject: [PDF] Security & Overhead Questions Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:16:52 -0600 Organization: WCTI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Greetings, I am new to this list, and to world of PDF (at least as a creator). I have two questions: 1) Is there any way to compute a rough idea of the size a PDF file will be, and are there ways to keep that size to a minimum? 2) Is there a generally accepted method of limiting the number of times a downloaded PDF file can be printed? Thanks for your help. James Johnston _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 22:27:17-GMT,2021;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27404 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:27:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03993; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:23:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:22:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03872; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:22:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990803182632.008778f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 18:26:32 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II In-Reply-To: <003d01beddf7$73294e20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Well, that depends. Do you execute attachments that arrive >as programs? I don't. > Not on my Mac. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 22:31:48-GMT,2348;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27565 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:31:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04295; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:28:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:27:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04240; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:27:44 -0500 From: HyperTek@aol.com Message-ID: <8c94dea8.24d8c6d1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:27:29 EDT Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for August-3-99 [V2 #582] To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear PDF listers, Lately I have been working with HyperRef within the typesetting system LaTeX. If I understand the documentation, I am supposed to be able to code HTML links in the original document that will carry through and be usable in the pdf file with no extra steps after distilling. The links do work in document preview of the LaTeX file, but it appears that only color code for the link is in the PostScript. It was my understanding that non-printing link code would be in the PostScript that could be utilized by distiller to place the links in the pdf file. I did not see any codes that looked like link codes in the Postscript. Does anyone have any experience with HyperRef? If all it does is color and underline text, it hardly seems to be worth the trouble. Sincerely, Frank Harris _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-1999 23:27:02-GMT,2021;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29104 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:27:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08894; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:22:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:20:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08613; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:20:37 -0500 Message-ID: <31A657F37655D111B31300A0C9551875874288@ZIRCON> From: Nathan Harper To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Using a URL to index into a PDF Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:21:54 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible to use a URL to call a PDF and move to a certain page (or paragraph, or heading)? Thanks, Nathan. Nathan Harper Information Technology Project Manager ---------------------------------------------------------------- Anstat Pty Ltd PO Box 447 South Melbourne VIC 3205 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 3 9278 1111 Fax: +61 3 9278 1115 Email: nathan@anstat.com.au Internet: http://www.anstat.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 0:01:43-GMT,4741;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00009 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:01:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11560; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:57:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:56:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11378; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:56:23 -0500 Message-ID: <003801bede0b$889dc4c0$0100a8c0@marknet> From: "Mark A. Urquhart-Webb" To: Subject: [PDF] Web Searching of PDF using Names and parse_doc.pl Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:54:02 -0700 Organization: Uniplex Software, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01BEDDD0.C9E95240" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BEDDD0.C9E95240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking at indexing my own web site using the ht://Dig shareware on a Linux system. I am using xpdftotext as a PDF parser through parse_doc.pl and everything is working fine .... EXCEPT! My PDF documents are all book-sized - around 300 pages each and a successful search shows the portion of the document that matches (converted to text, with highlights) but when selected just takes one to the first page of the relevant document. parse_doc does output a 'relative position' (of the matches in the document) but this index number seems to bear no relation to the Page Number. I have used the suggestion which I got from this list to 'Name' all of my pages in wach document so that I can do: http://www.uniplex.com/ubs/Documents/AGSV900-P.pdf#P_33 but HOW do I join the two together??? I'm sure someone has been through this hoop already, I don't want to change to Verity or one of the other Web Indexers just to achieve this I know 300 pages is too long for a document that is to be downloaded from a web site, I'm planning on cutting them into chapters but then I'll have to write some more scripts...... One last thought, would it be possible to invoke PDF from the web with an argument that is automatically used as a search term? Thanks for all help! Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Email: mxw@uniplex.com / mxw@dgweb.com Work: (916) 961 8707 Fax : (916) 961 8378 Cellular: (916) 213 1066 Mark A. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Using a URL to index into a PDF References: <31A657F37655D111B31300A0C9551875874288@ZIRCON> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ See page 476 of "Help->Acrobat Guide" (in Acrobat 4.0) _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 0:22:24-GMT,2189;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00608 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:22:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13463; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:18:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:16:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13235; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:16:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Opening a file at a named destination or page Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:16:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jo Long wrote . . . does anyone know how I can set a button action to open another file at a specific page or named destination . . . What about CD-ROM applications that just use the reader. I didn't see an answer to this one yet, so I'll pipe in with what I know. I place a link over a button to do exactly that. The button itself does nothing. It's the link that opens to the specific page of another file. The link can be made visible/invisible, and I'm sure that you can work with the form options (if desired) to make the button appear to do something. Tom Livingston FSBTI _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 0:22:36-GMT,3278;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00618 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:22:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13496; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:18:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:17:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13423; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:17:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199908040017.RAA02638@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 17:17:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Security & Overhead Questions From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am new to this list, and to world of PDF (at least as a creator). I have > two questions: > > 1) Is there any way to compute a rough idea of the size a PDF file will be, > and are there ways to keep that size to a minimum? Welcome, James. I'll take door, or question, number 1. You can't really compute a PDF file size, in advance. It's not like Photoshop where you have bitmaps, size of page, pixels per inch, etc. and multiply it all out for a file size of 15mb, or whatever. The size of a PDF file is dependent on a number of things. I'll start with plain vanilla (text only). a. Embedding and subsetting fonts will increase a file size slightly. b. Graphics, especially tiffs or eps files will have a huge impact on file size. Color images, of course, results in bigger files sizes than black and white. c. This is where compression settings come into play. In Acrobat 4, the default Screen Optimized settings will result in small file sizes and acceptable viewing and printing on your desktop printers. Just so you don't think I'm totally dancing around the issue, a 2-page 8 1/2 x 11 doc for PitStop 4, with a few images and medium resolution, is about 900k. On the same token, a similar sized piece with low resolution graphics, and not much of those for Trapwise, is 200k. Based on this, you can see that the sizes are all over the place. The best thing you can do, is make a test file that's similar to what your needs are. Use the Screen settings, if that's adequate, consider whether fonts are an issue (embedding and subsetting), and make your PDF. This will give you a good idea of what you're working with. Hope this gives you a start. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 1:30:53-GMT,3406;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02275 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:30:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18726; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 20:25:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 20:23:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18599; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 20:23:35 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F85138953515A@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Opening a file at a named destination or page Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:26:01 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jo Long, Take a look at the Acrobat Help file, specifically the icons at the top of the page - they have a javascript function attached to them and a PDF icon that gives the impression of a button. It's nicely done and can be easily used replicated for your scenario. This type of scenario - using Forms, is probably a good place to look as you can duplicate form fields across the entire document easily and make the buttons jump to anything. Alternatively you could use something like Ari's Link Copy Tool Plugin (http://www.dionis.com) that will allow you (among other things) to copy a standard link to each and every page in the current document (or other documents in batch). In the second scenario (Links) you could simply set up one link to point to another PDF file or another application/file and then duplicate it across your document. The link itself could only contain a jump to the other applications file (open only), not a jump to a specific page in the file (unless it was an HTML page) - however you can use either forms or links to jump to specific pages in a PDF file. Hope this helps. Dave........... > __________________________________________________________________ > > Jo Long wrote . . . does anyone know how I can set a button action > to open another file at a specific page or named destination . . . What > about CD-ROM applications that just use the reader. ------------------ > I didn't see an answer to this one yet, so I'll pipe in with what I know. > I place a link over a button to do exactly that. The button itself does > nothing. It's the link that opens to the specific page of another file. > The link can be made visible/invisible, and I'm sure that you can work > with the form options (if desired) to make the button appear to do > something. ------------ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 7:32:02-GMT,2456;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00698 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 01:32:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA30919; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:05:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:03:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA30788; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:03:08 -0500 Message-ID: <31A657F37655D111B31300A0C9551875874294@ZIRCON> From: Nathan Harper To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Using a URL to index into a PDF Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:04:21 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We do not yet own Acrobat 4, but I understand tools like Name It from Merlin were available to perform these functions in Acrobat 3 (or simply editing the postscript file manually). Is version 4.0 the same, or does it include the functionality? Thanks, Nathan. -----Original Message----- From: Roberto Perelman [mailto:rperelma@Adobe.COM] Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 1999 9:56 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Using a URL to index into a PDF The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ See page 476 of "Help->Acrobat Guide" (in Acrobat 4.0) _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 11:28:25-GMT,2115;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04460 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:28:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28901; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 06:24:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 06:20:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28485; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 06:20:44 -0500 Message-ID: <37A82298.D465272F@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 19:23:04 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 and Quicktime 4.0 streaming Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, has anyone tried to incorporate a Quicktime 4.0 streaming video into Acrobat ? Quicktime 4 and Acrobat 4 work fine when I use cinepak compressed movies. But when I tried to link to a video clip exported from Quicktime 4.0 using the 100Mhz streaming option, Acrobat keeps crashing - illegal operation performed - error in xmvideo.dll.... The movies play back fine using the standalone Quicktime player. I was hoping to be able to use these streaming videos with Acrobat as the are really much smaller 1.7Mb as compared to 24Mb. Any comments ?? Josephine Leong _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 12:33:00-GMT,2949;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05626 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 06:32:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01226; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:24:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:23:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01108; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:23:20 -0500 From: SandyHov@aol.com Message-ID: <76a35f1b.24d98ab2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:23:14 EDT Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Application Placed on Web Loses Links To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi folks, I'm wondering if anyone else has run into this. We created a large Acrobat 3.0 application for a customer which they distributed on CD and placed on their Web site. The application is made up of about 15 PDF files which were all placed in the same subdirectory. There are many links that take the user from one file to another. The first file is called intro.pdf and holds the table of contents. No problems with the CDs. On the web, the files were placed in a ...\division\catalogs\pdffiles\ subdirectory. When you click on the appropriate screen to bring up the catalog, the intro.pdf file is brought up. It seems that on some systems when you click on a link from the intro.pdf file to another file, the "catalogs\pdffiles" portion of the subdirectory structure is lost, so obviously the file is not found. We can't identify why this occurs on some systems and not others because we can't isolate the differences between the systems. (We initially thought it worked only on systems using Acrobat 4.0, but have since found that it works on some systems with 3.0.) Any ideas? This is a Fortune 500 company getting LOTS of hits on the catalog creating many problem phone calls to their IS department. The problem has eventually filtered its way down to our company because we created the Acrobat application. Thanks for any help you can offer, Sandy Hovatter, Data Designs sandyhov@aol.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 13:09:59-GMT,2554;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06195 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04931; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:05:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:04:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04800; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:04:20 -0500 Message-ID: <0DBFAA1116A7D211B4FD00A024D72368137BBC@xmail.itcenter.org> From: "Hanson, Rae" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Possible to Create Web Links to Bookmarks in a PDF Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:04:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Just a quick question... I have a client asking if we can possibly link to a bookmark inside of a PDF from their webpage. This is so that certain users can be immediately directed to only the Section they are looking for, rather than having to read through the entire PDF. I spent some time trying to find out whether this was possible or not but I can't find any information on it. Was just curious if anyone on the list knows 1) whether it's possible or 2) has a suggestion of a way around this. I have thought of just splitting their PDF up into separate PDFs that correspond to the Sections but they don't seem to like that idea. Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks, ->Rae Hanson ->Configuration Manager ->Information Technology Service Center, UCF -> http://www.itcenter.org ->"People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost." - H. Jackson Browne _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 13:16:12-GMT,2064;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06279 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:16:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05490; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:12:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:10:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05282; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:10:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nicolas Isnard To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Fatal error (COOLTYPE.DLL) in Acrobat 4.0 after PDFMaker of a lar ge Word97 doc Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:10:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone had this problem before ? I have a very large DOC file to convert to PDF using PDFMaker and Acrobat 4.0. The conversion is ok but when i display the file in Acrobat, some pages are filled with black colours. After a few tries, Windows crashes And Acrobat stops because cooltype.DLL had a fatal error. Any idea ? Cheers. Nicolas ISNARD Product Engineer Tel +33 4 37 91 35 14 Fax +33 4 72 33 02 12 Email ni@lyon.01db.com Web http://www.01db.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 13:21:39-GMT,1939;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06371 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:21:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06179; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:17:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:16:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05933; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:16:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:15:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi Inston wrote: >Do you execute attachments that arrive as programs? I don't. Yes, I do execute attachments that arrive as programs IF AND ONLY IF my virus-checker software (Norton AniVirus) says that the atachments are virus-free. My system is set up so that Norton AntiVirus automatically kicks in and checks out e-mail attachments. - Cynthia _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 13:27:19-GMT,1967;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06472 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:27:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06648; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:21:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:20:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06402; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:20:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:18:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve Rindsberg wrote >Not on my Mac. Of course not! I suggested using self-extracting zip files because in this thread we've established a context whereby the recipients of the e-mail messages and attachments would always be using PCs. Indeed, the subject of this thread is "Attachments Mac-to-PC II." - Cynthia Leslie Citation Software Inc. www.citationsoftware.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 13:45:00-GMT,2599;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06815 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:44:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08732; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:41:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:38:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08486; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:38:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:38:14 +0100 Message-ID: <004601bede7e$9b421f40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Aandi Inston wrote: > >Do you execute attachments that arrive as programs? I don't. > > Yes, I do execute attachments that arrive as programs IF AND > ONLY IF my > virus-checker software (Norton AniVirus) says that the atachments are > virus-free. My system is set up so that Norton AntiVirus > automatically kicks > in and checks out e-mail attachments. I wouldn't even do that. After all, a program does not have to be a virus to do damage. An EXE which deletes all the files on your C drive would pass all antivirus tests. If someone sent me an EXE file which they claimed was a document, I would first see whether I could unzip it. If not, I would ask for a copy in readable form, whoever sent it. I don't run any software on my system unless I have sourced it from a trusted software development company. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 13:50:31-GMT,2850;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06922 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:50:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09348; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:46:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:45:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09269; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:45:23 -0500 Message-ID: <004d01bede7f$a31619a0$466564c8@MAbrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:45:38 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ For most people who can't afford to set up their own FTP server (most of whom wouldn't know what FTP meant even if they could afford it) or have no other way to share files, sending the program as an e-mail attachment is the only option. Obviously NO ONE should ever open a file attachment unless they know and trust the sender (even then being very cautious to use anti-virus software). For the most part, however, using e-mail to send attachments is one of the greatest benefits of the existing system. Obviously there are shortfalls, but what system doesn't have those? Could anyone suggest a cheaper, more widely available option for simple file transmission? In the rapidly evolving world of technology and computers, it is easy to forget the common household end-user who couldn't care less about protocols, MIME encoding or bin-hex vs. zip. After all, computing that benefits the masses is what supports our high-tech world. Where would we all be without mass production and distribution? Don't forget the little guy. :) Mike _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 14:07:53-GMT,2374;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07252 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11418; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:04:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:03:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11346; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:03:18 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:02:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi Inston wrote: >I wouldn't even do that. After all, a program does not have to >be a virus to do damage. An EXE which deletes all the files on >your C drive would pass all antivirus tests. > >If someone sent me an EXE file which they claimed was a document, >I would first see whether I could unzip it. If not, I would ask >for a copy in readable form, whoever sent it. I don't run any >software on my system unless I have sourced it from a trusted >software development company. Aandi: Most people think that I am overly cautious, but you are even more cautious than I am! I'll be the first to admit, though, that what you are doing is the right way to go. In fact, maybe I'll start doing things your way. - Cynthia Leslie Citation Software Inc. www.citationsoftware.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 14:40:05-GMT,2016;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08056 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:40:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14321; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:31:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:30:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14055; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:30:23 -0500 Message-ID: <002f01bede85$e3e4ec80$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: "pdf zone" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:30:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I noticed that during the Acrobat 4 Install the autorun gave you the option to browse for further info and then loaded reader 4 from the CD without installing. Does this mean we can now run the reader from a cd or is this a special version from Adobe. This would be quite useful for us. Paul Dennis Complete Picture London Publishing Solutions For Industry _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 15:32:09-GMT,3332;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09462 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:32:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20651; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:26:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:25:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20510; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:25:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199908041525.IAA43091@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 08:25:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > For most people who can't afford to set up their own FTP server (most of > whom wouldn't know what FTP meant even if they could afford it) or have no > other way to share files, sending the program as an e-mail attachment is the > only option. Obviously NO ONE should ever open a file attachment unless > they know and trust the sender (even then being very cautious to use > anti-virus software). For the most part, however, using e-mail to send > attachments is one of the greatest benefits of the existing system. > Obviously there are shortfalls, but what system doesn't have those? Could > anyone suggest a cheaper, more widely available option for simple file > transmission? In the rapidly evolving world of technology and computers, it > is easy to forget the common household end-user who couldn't care less about > protocols, MIME encoding or bin-hex vs. zip. After all, computing that > benefits the masses is what supports our high-tech world. Where would we > all be without mass production and distribution? Don't forget the little > guy. :) Mike: I totally agree with you. If one is a professional service provider (prepress or printer), an ftp site is essential. Then we're talking about high-speed connections for transfers, etc. I have a 256k modem for my work, and I send e-mail attachments every day...pdfs, zips, sits... I don't need anything more elaborate as I'm just one person sending electronic data here, there and everywhere. With *very* few exceptions, I have no problems. If I do have a problem, it is caused by something on the other end, and more likely than not, it's someone on a PC who doesn't know how to accept Macintosh files. We won't bring up AOL again, either, will we? r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 15:32:26-GMT,2898;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09474 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20786; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:27:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:26:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20630; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:26:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:16:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On 08/04/1999 Michael Abrahamson wrote: >For most people who can't afford to set up their own FTP server >(most of whom wouldn't know what FTP meant even if they could >afford it) or have no other way to share files, sending the >program as an e-mail attachment is the only option. No it isn't. United Parcel Service (UPS) has a service called "UPS Online Courier" that seems to be a great idea. It works like this: The sender uses the UPS Online Courier service to send a file to a particular e-mail address. What actually happens is that the intended recipient does NOT get an e-mail message with an attached file; instead, the intended repipient gets a e-mail message that instructs him to go to a particular URL and download the file. I haven't tried the UPS Online Courier service yet myself, but it seems like a great idea. According to the price list on UPS's Web page, the service is dirt cheap. You can find out about UPS Online Courier by going to www.ups.com and clicking on "UPS Document Exchange." There is also a similar, supposedly free service at www.freediskspace.com. I believe that this service imposes a limitation on the size of a file to be transferred, though, and this might be a problem. - Cynthia Leslie Citation Software Inc. www.citationsoftware.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 16:08:04-GMT,2407;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10359 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:08:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24844; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:04:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:03:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24731; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:03:12 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002f01bede85$e3e4ec80$0200a8c0@Paul> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:57:41 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Cc: "Paul Dennis" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Paul, guess what, YES. Reader 4 now can run directly from a CD. They say that the infamous Reader CD will have all the needed stuff, as well as the instructions for doing so. Until then, you can use the directory Reader is using for autorunning on the Acrobat 4 CD. Hope this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I noticed that during the Acrobat 4 Install the autorun gave you the option >to browse for further info and then loaded reader 4 from the CD without >installing. Does this mean we can now run the reader from a cd or is this a >special version from Adobe. This would be quite useful for us. > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 16:08:13-GMT,3855;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10368 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:08:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24843; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:04:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:03:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24705; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:03:09 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <004d01bede7f$a31619a0$466564c8@MAbrahamson> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:54:51 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Cc: "Michael Abrahamson" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Mike, there is no need for an FTP server to be available. As soon as there is a possibility on a webserver to temporarily put the files, they no longer need to be transferred as e-mail attachments. One can create a directory on the webserver which is otherwise unlinked to the rest of the net. Then -- and here, FTP will be used normally -- one can upload the file to that directory. Then one sends an e-mail to the recipient of the file containing the URL of the uploaded file. This will be a http-address. Also in that mail will be some instructions on how to grab the file, and particularly when disk space on the web server is scarce, require a message that the file was well received. Then one deletes the file again, and makes space for the next one. The only limitation here is the available disk space, and the transmission rate. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >For most people who can't afford to set up their own FTP server (most of >whom wouldn't know what FTP meant even if they could afford it) or have no >other way to share files, sending the program as an e-mail attachment is the >only option. Obviously NO ONE should ever open a file attachment unless >they know and trust the sender (even then being very cautious to use >anti-virus software). For the most part, however, using e-mail to send >attachments is one of the greatest benefits of the existing system. >Obviously there are shortfalls, but what system doesn't have those? Could >anyone suggest a cheaper, more widely available option for simple file >transmission? In the rapidly evolving world of technology and computers, it >is easy to forget the common household end-user who couldn't care less about >protocols, MIME encoding or bin-hex vs. zip. After all, computing that >benefits the masses is what supports our high-tech world. Where would we >all be without mass production and distribution? Don't forget the little >guy. :) _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 16:20:54-GMT,1716;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10728 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:20:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26206; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:17:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:15:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26032; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:15:30 -0500 Message-ID: <37A86706.C24B9588@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:15:18 -0700 From: two turtles Organization: Two Turtles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04C-PBI-NC404 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] autorun? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am publishing to CD pdf files and would like to have an autorun on the cd. Is there a resource where I can get this autorun? J _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 16:27:05-GMT,2259;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10890 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27094; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:23:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:21:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26745; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:21:10 -0500 Message-ID: <001901bede95$7d7a1a00$0d08a8ac@pitmagnus.com> From: "Ray Landis" To: Subject: [PDF] Styled fonts Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:22:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, We recently have been supplied PS files with fonts embedded that also contain styled fonts. Upon distilling the files (with print options used - embed all fonts and subset at 99%) and sending for film output we get the following error - invalidaccess, offending command def. When we went back and replaced the styled fonts with true fonts the problem went away. Could someone please explain the mechanics of how styled fonts work both in and out of the PDF format. Thanks in advance. they were PS files made from Quark files, distilled on Distiller V3.02 Ray Landis Progressive Info Tech _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 16:34:09-GMT,3718;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11120 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:34:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27595; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:28:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:26:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27384; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:26:42 -0500 Message-ID: <008301bede96$502debc0$466564c8@MAbrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199908041525.IAA43091@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:27:58 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >We won't bring up AOL again, either, will we? > A perfect example of a poor service dominating the market due to consumer ignorance. Agreed? I'm not interested in starting an anti-AOL thread. :) In response to Cynthia's mentioning the UPS service, I think it is a wonderful idea, but one that still forces the average end-user to break out of their comfort zone (a GREAT goal, but highly improbable) and still be subject to security risks when they open the file in question. Security risks are inherent with sharing ANY files, regardless of how they were transmitted. And if the UPS service charges an extra fee for the "convenience" of using their server as a repository, where is the benefit to the average user? The service requires the recipient to have internet access and an e-mail address. So why wouldn't you just send the file as an e-mail attachment rather than sending them a link to a URL to retrieve the file? Am I missing the value here? They tout the benefit of having your file sent as a PDF, but what if you're sending an executable? I know you can embed applications inside PDF files, but again, we are talking about basic file sharing here, and most average users will not want to have to embed their app inside a file to dump into a repository to send an e-mail notification to link to a URL to retrieve the file to unembed (losing me at this point) the app to load the .exe to... Sorry, I got carried away. :) Anyway, I'm sure there are plenty of services available (I've investigated many independently) for file sharing over the net. I will return to my previous charge, however, that there is no more a cheaper and more widely available system for any sort of file transmission as e-mail for the average end-user. I completely agree that for professional use there are much better options. Comparing the two is like apples and oranges - different purposes, different requirements. Mike _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 16:37:00-GMT,1997;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11219 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:36:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28343; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:33:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:32:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28094; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:32:07 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37A86706.C24B9588@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:30:46 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] autorun? Cc: two turtles Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Have a look on how it is solved on the Acrobat 4 CD. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ > >I am publishing to CD pdf files and would like to have an autorun on the cd. >Is there a resource where I can get this autorun? > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 16:44:42-GMT,6065;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11414 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:44:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28899; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:40:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:39:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28723; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:39:02 -0500 Message-ID: <008801bede97$ac378420$466564c8@MAbrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:37:42 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Max, Thank you for your clear and concise explanation. I will take it into consideration if I can finally convince my company to recognize the need for a web server (preferably after I get them to recognize the need for at least one dedicated on-site IT professional). We are operating under the umbrella of our corporate site, which has some nice features but is absolutely not geared towards enhancing our local business or improving our customer service/relations. However, the issue at hand is the overall use of e-mail as a file transfer utility for the average end-user, not a corporate enterprise with resources enough to set up any kind of server as a hub for file transmission and/or deposit. I've learned from dealing with a client base of mostly older women who act as church secretaries and have little to know experience or interest in computing exactly how difficult it is to transfer the knowledge of even the most basic concepts that we deal with daily to people with varying levels of concern. You'd be amazed at some of the responses to the term "Click your mouse." :) BTW, let me offer my thanks for your wonderful presentation at Seybold/Boston in March. As a PDF newbie I was excited to see your dynamic application of the PDF file format. Kudos! Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ----- Original Message ----- From: Max Wyss To: Cc: Michael Abrahamson Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Mike, > > there is no need for an FTP server to be available. As soon as there is a > possibility on a webserver to temporarily put the files, they no longer > need to be transferred as e-mail attachments. > > One can create a directory on the webserver which is otherwise unlinked to > the rest of the net. Then -- and here, FTP will be used normally -- one can > upload the file to that directory. Then one sends an e-mail to the > recipient of the file containing the URL of the uploaded file. This will be > a http-address. Also in that mail will be some instructions on how to grab > the file, and particularly when disk space on the web server is scarce, > require a message that the file was well received. Then one deletes the > file again, and makes space for the next one. The only limitation here is > the available disk space, and the transmission rate. > > Hope, this can help. > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch > > > [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] > > > ______________________ > > > > >For most people who can't afford to set up their own FTP server (most of > >whom wouldn't know what FTP meant even if they could afford it) or have no > >other way to share files, sending the program as an e-mail attachment is the > >only option. Obviously NO ONE should ever open a file attachment unless > >they know and trust the sender (even then being very cautious to use > >anti-virus software). For the most part, however, using e-mail to send > >attachments is one of the greatest benefits of the existing system. > >Obviously there are shortfalls, but what system doesn't have those? Could > >anyone suggest a cheaper, more widely available option for simple file > >transmission? In the rapidly evolving world of technology and computers, it > >is easy to forget the common household end-user who couldn't care less about > >protocols, MIME encoding or bin-hex vs. zip. After all, computing that > >benefits the masses is what supports our high-tech world. Where would we > >all be without mass production and distribution? Don't forget the little > >guy. :) > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 16:49:28-GMT,1810;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11542 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:49:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29635; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:46:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:45:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29538; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:45:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199908041645.LAA29523@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:48:06 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: Re: [PDF] autorun? In-Reply-To: <37A86706.C24B9588@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ we use Autoplay Menu Studio. Works great. www.indigorose.com > >I am publishing to CD pdf files and would like to have an autorun on the cd. >Is there a resource where I can get this autorun? > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 17:02:55-GMT,2740;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11872 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:02:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30991; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:59:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:58:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30842; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:58:08 -0500 Message-ID: <0FAAFBF846ABD211A19100805FA6A55A773181@gold.dolby.com> From: "Goldin, Susan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Installation of PDFMaker Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:58:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEDE9A.B1AC865A" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDE9A.B1AC865A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Argh! I remember a note about the sequence of Acrobat 4 installation to assure that the PDFMaker macro installs correctly. I just can't remember the procedure or where I read it. Can you help? ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDE9A.B1AC865A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Installation of PDFMaker

Argh!  I remember a note about the sequence of = Acrobat 4 installation to assure that the PDFMaker macro installs = correctly.  I just can't remember the procedure or where I read = it.  Can you help?

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDE9A.B1AC865A-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 17:15:29-GMT,3239;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12231 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:15:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32438; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:12:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:10:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32232; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:10:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199908041710.KAA67325@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:10:36 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Installation of PDFMaker From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3016606236_10917947_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3016606236_10917947_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Argh! I remember a note about the sequence of Acrobat 4 installation to assure that the PDFMaker macro installs correctly. I just can't remember the procedure or where I read it. Can you help? This couldn't be easier. Make sure you have Word 97 or later installed. Remove any previous versions of Acrobat. Run your Acrobat 4 installer, and follow the directions. There's nothing to it. r|i|c|h Please, please don't use hmtl when you post to these lists. Thanks. --MS_Mac_OE_3016606236_10917947_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Installation of PDFMaker

Argh!  I remember a note about the sequence of Acrobat = 4 installation to assure that the PDFMaker macro installs correctly.  I= just can't remember the procedure or where I read it.  Can you help?

This couldn't be easier.

Make sure you have Word 97 or later installed.

Remove any previous versions of Acrobat.

Run your Acrobat 4 installer, and follow the directions. There's nothing to= it.

r|i|c|h


Please, please don't use hmtl when you post to these lists. Thanks. --MS_Mac_OE_3016606236_10917947_MIME_Part-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 19:45:49-GMT,2244;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16593 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:45:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17346; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:41:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:37:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16864; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:37:35 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 13:45:05 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA16857 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Re: Sending attatchments through e-mail as self-extracting Compressed documents: Beware: as the e-mail message goes through its e-travels from your e-mail app to theirs, the different systems may apply different compressions to the attachment. Sometimes its OK when it comes out on the other side, but often the attatchment will get recompressed, and has to be decompressed before you can get it to decompress itself. Worse yet, some systems will disable the self-extracting feature. Try to make sure that the recipient has some sort of decompression program, just in case Good Luck, jeff _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 20:48:02-GMT,3815;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18269 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:48:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25957; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:41:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:40:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25645; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:40:03 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990804161852.00c31530@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 16:35:37 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Application Placed on Web Loses Links In-Reply-To: <199908041937.OAA16884@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sandy, It sounds like you need to set the Base URL for all of your files. Whether in links, form fields, or bookmarks, any actios that references other files will usually use a relative pathname. Imagine that you have two files named c:/myfiles/a.pdf and c:/myfiles/b.pdf. The links in the first file that point to the second file will not store the whole pathname, and they will only reference the file as "b.pdf". Since the link is contained in a file that is at c:/myfiles/a.pdf, Adobe Acrobat knows to look for b.pdf at c:/myfiles/b.pdf. Imagine that you move both files to another directory on your hard drive: d:/different/a.pdf and d:/different/b.pdf. When you click the link in the first file, Adobe Acrobat knows to look for b.pdf at d:/different/b.pdf, and everything works fine. Things get a little strange when you go to the web. Imagine your files are now at http://www.dionis.com/test/a.pdf and http://www.dionis.com/test/b.pdf. (Don't click either URL; this is a hypothetical example.) When you start viewing the first file, it gets downloaded into a temporary directory on your machine for viewing. So, the file is now at c:/temp/a.pdf. When you click on the link, Adobe Acrobat looks for the other file at c:/temp/b.pdf. Unless you were recently downloaded the second file with your web browser, it is not in the temp directory on that machine, and the link will not work. If you set the Base URL in the first file to http://www.dionis.com/test/, when you click the link, instead of looking for the second file in the temp directory on your machine where the first file is now sitting, it will look for the second file on the web at http://www.dionis.com/test/b.pdf. Of course, you should also set the Base URL in b.pdf so that any links in that file that go to a.pdf will work. You can set the Base URL for the current file by selecting File->Document Info->Base URL. You can set the Base URL for a folder full of files in batch using Ari's Link Tool from Dionis. Get a free demo from: http://www.dionis.com/demo/altdemob.html Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 4-Aug-1999 21:33:30-GMT,4372;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19614 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:33:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31839; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:30:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:28:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31636; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:28:33 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <008801bede97$ac378420$466564c8@MAbrahamson> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:12:21 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Mike, thanks for the compliments. I am flattered to hear that you liked that infamous presentation. It is indeed true that we on this medium get a more and more distorted view of the world. For us e-mail and webservers etc. are nothing particular, but there are lots of people out there who should know about but don't. Concerning the webserver, you don't even need your own machine for doing such file transfers. In fact, the almost free space on any ISP does it. And as you are giving out the complete link, there is not even the urgent need for your own domain name (although it looks better if you have, of course). The problem with e-mail transmission is that many ISPs have limitations on either the size of one individual message or the amount of space allowed for your messages. Besides that there is still no guarantee that all the segments and nodes your e-mail message passes don't do anything bad with the message. Some mail servers want to be smarter than the sender, and change characters etc. Of course, the system gets more reliable every day, and maybe one day, there won't be many problems with e-mail anymore.... Take care. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Thank you for your clear and concise explanation. I will take it into >consideration if I can finally convince my company to recognize the need for >a web server (preferably after I get them to recognize the need for at least >one dedicated on-site IT professional). We are operating under the umbrella >of our corporate site, which has some nice features but is absolutely not >geared towards enhancing our local business or improving our customer >service/relations. > >However, the issue at hand is the overall use of e-mail as a file transfer >utility for the average end-user, not a corporate enterprise with resources >enough to set up any kind of server as a hub for file transmission and/or >deposit. I've learned from dealing with a client base of mostly older women >who act as church secretaries and have little to know experience or interest >in computing exactly how difficult it is to transfer the knowledge of even >the most basic concepts that we deal with daily to people with varying >levels of concern. You'd be amazed at some of the responses to the term >"Click your mouse." :) > >BTW, let me offer my thanks for your wonderful presentation at >Seybold/Boston in March. As a PDF newbie I was excited to see your dynamic >application of the PDF file format. Kudos! _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 0:43:00-GMT,2018;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24926 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:42:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18383; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:38:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:36:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18201; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:36:48 -0500 From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] Email attachments, etc. Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:36:22 -0700 Message-ID: <000501bededa$8b4a6d20$e640dccf@amada.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Ref Email attachment vs UPS or some other service- As has been noted, many Emails may choke on attachments - some are configured to refuse attachments (?) Depends on the company, etc, etc. Having a third party act as a PO Box makes sense- for some people, sometimes. It's nice to have options... Jay _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 0:43:40-GMT,2882;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24954 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:43:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18040; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:35:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:33:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17901; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:33:18 -0500 From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] autorun, acro 4 from CD Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:32:48 -0700 Message-ID: <000401bededa$0bf07f60$e640dccf@amada.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, there 1. autorun from CD: The discussion has passed through before, but here's my 2 cents. A file named "autorun.inf" on the root directory of the CD The one I use contains: [autorun] open=reader_search\Reader\AcroRd32.exe CD-ROM-mainlaunch.pdf icon=reader_search\Reader\AcroRd32.exe * Note that I specify the location of Acrobat Reader - oops- this requires Win 95 or above... (acrord32) * hmmm- well, I guess Macs do it differently, anyhow... But- this launches Acro4 from the CD, displays my splash screen/launch page. The user gets the choice of using the docs directly, or running install for Acrobat Reader. but anyway- could be any executeable file (or batch file, etc) on the CD or the user's machine. 2. Acrobat 4 from CD. I think I just ran the install program with a CD in the burner, already formatted by Direct CD. The install program is dumb enough to install to any writeable drive you tell it to... and it seems to work fine. My distribution is quite limited in numbers, and isn't really all that fancy yet... (it would be much nicer to detect the presence / availability of Acrobat on the host machine, and branch from there...) HTH Jay _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 0:57:00-GMT,2539;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25235 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:56:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19831; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:53:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:52:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19657; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:52:10 -0500 Message-ID: <0ce801bededc$b721ce50$8e462099@corp.adobe.com> From: "Phil Ydens" To: References: <000401bededa$0bf07f60$e640dccf@amada.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] autorun, acro 4 from CD Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:51:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I think I just ran the install program with a CD in the burner, already > formatted by Direct CD. > The install program is dumb enough to install to any writeable drive you > tell it to... > and it seems to work fine. > You really can't create a proper image for your CD by just installing Reader to your staging area. What about system DLLs? Sure your CD would work for some machines, but not all. That's why we had to document very carefully how to do this. If you don't have the Reader CD, I would take the Reader folder from your Acrobat 4 CD and use it. You'll notice that we added system dlls there. BTW, if you want Reader to show up in multiple languages, or you want to view PDF files that contain CJK text, then you will have to do more work. Phil Ydens Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 1:53:28-GMT,2465;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26441 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:53:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25079; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:49:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:48:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24945; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:48:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199908050147.VAA59320@chickasaw.gate.net> From: "John Eric Burg" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Using a URL to index into a PDF Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:58:22 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Well, if I understand your question, you want the client be able to "browse" a pdf file with an internet software, such as IE or Netscape. Create a link on your web page pointing to your pdf file. Like: http://www.yoursite.com/info/info.pdf . Now, client-side, the user will need a plug-in, for Netscape, and Reader. For IE, since it's an Active-X control, the pdf will be "tagged" as an object, so no plug-in is needed, but the user will still need Reader to view your pdf file on-line. And in both browsers, the "Reader window" will be framed within the browser window. Keep that in mind for your open document view settings... John E. Burg TWCo, Inc. > Is it possible to use a URL to call a PDF and move to a certain page (or > paragraph, or heading)? > > Thanks, > Nathan. > > Nathan Harper > Information Technology Project Manager > _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 2:57:44-GMT,1861;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27857 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:57:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA30243; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:48:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:47:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA30083; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:47:05 -0500 Message-ID: <37A8FBB7.6758AC32@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:49:27 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Error merging 2 acrobat files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I get this error while trying to merge 2 Acrobat files (using either Insert Pages or drag-and-drop). It says that Acrobat is unable to merge the files because they contain the same subset fonts. After this happens the original file can't even be saved. Has anyone encountered this before ? Josephine Leong _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 7:00:04-GMT,4752;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03601 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:00:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15738; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:54:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:52:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15599; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:52:35 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: [PDF] Overprint Stteings Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:40:50 +0530 Message-ID: <01bedf11$a6401c10$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010F_01BEDF3F.BFF85810" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010F_01BEDF3F.BFF85810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been trying to find solution to the overprint problem. I have = asked various experts. Even tried the Adobe PDF forum. But still no = solution. May be someone from PDFZone could help. The problem: getting the overprint/knockout/trap settings right through = a composite PDF workflow to 4 colour seps. With Acrobat 4 we are able to "preserve overprint settings" while = creating PDF. The overprint settings are in fact preserved in the PDF = file (we can check this using Eyedropper plug-in). But when you use = Acrobat to either export the PDF file to EPS or print 4 colour seps (via = PDFOutput Pro plug-in from Callas) the output settings are not = maintained.=20 How is the Ad Industry + Print Industry using PDF workflow? Are they = still using pre-separated files? Any ideas?=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Surf to the top. 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------=_NextPart_000_010F_01BEDF3F.BFF85810-- _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 8:01:08-GMT,2734;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04860 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:01:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19782; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:54:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:53:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19712; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:53:24 -0500 From: HyperTek@aol.com Message-ID: <346be1af.24da9cc3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:52:35 EDT Subject: re: [PDF] Acrobat Application Placed on Web Loses Links To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Sandy, I think I did this about 1 1/2 years ago. Make all of the links on the CD-ROM relative WWW links, and they will work on the CD as well as on the WWW. I had about 120 files, and it took a lot of testing, but it worked, (if I fully understand your problem). It was all in Acrobat 3.x though. FH >>> Hi folks, I'm wondering if anyone else has run into this. We created a large Acrobat 3.0 application for a customer which they distributed on CD and placed on their Web site. The application is made up of about 15 PDF files which were all placed in the same subdirectory. There are many links that take the user from one file to another. The first file is called intro.pdf and holds the table of contents. No problems with the CDs. On the web, the files were placed in a ...\division\catalogs\pdffiles\ subdirectory. When you click on the appropriate screen to bring up the catalog, the intro.pdf file is brought up. It seems that on some systems when you click on a link from the intro.pdf file to another file, the "catalogs\pdffiles" portion of the subdirectory structure is lost, so obviously the file is not found. We can't identify why ... <<< _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 8:15:39-GMT,2666;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05126 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:15:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20942; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:11:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:10:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20782; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:10:24 -0500 Message-ID: <003a01bedf2d$20d142e0$c0c0c0c0@dirk> From: "dirk pauwels" To: References: <346be1af.24da9cc3@aol.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Application Placed on Web Loses Links Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:27:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I have the same problem with Quicktime movies in PDF files, viewed in a web browser. THe only possibility seems to be using a complete URL in the link, because relative links don't work, since The PDF file seems to be unaware of its location at the time it is viewed in teh browser ... Kind regards, dirk pauwels grafisch vormgever VDAB Productontwikkeling Kenniscentrum productiedesign tel: ++32 (0)14 44 51 99 fax: ++32 (0)14 44 51 81 dpauwels@skynet.be (dpauwels@vdab.be) http://www.vdab.be ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: donderdag 5 augustus 1999 9:52 Subject: re: [PDF] Acrobat Application Placed on Web Loses Links ... It seems that on some systems when > you click on a link from the intro.pdf file to another file, the > "catalogs\pdffiles" portion of the subdirectory > structure is lost, so obviously the file is not found. We can't identify why > ... _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 8:37:52-GMT,3180;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05561 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:37:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22522; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:33:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:32:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA22395; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:32:05 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Overprint Stteings Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:31:29 +0100 Message-ID: <006401bedf1c$eaa96180$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01bedf11$a6401c10$02c802c0@workstation> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I think you will need to start defining EXACTLY what you mean by the overprint problem. It is a complex area with many surprises. For instance, in level 2, process colours CANNOT overprint. This has been true since 1990, but people have been able to stick with pre-1990 techniques that hide this. In particular, people base their expectations on what QuarkXPress does when printing separations; this is not standard, nor is it easily carried to a composite workflow. Aandi P.S. PLEASE do not post HTML format to the list, it really messes up the digest. It is important to switch this off in your e-mail application. -----Original Message----- I have been trying to find solution to the overprint problem. I have asked various experts. Even tried the Adobe PDF forum. But still no solution. May be someone from PDFZone could help. The problem: getting the overprint/knockout/trap settings right through a composite PDF workflow to 4 colour seps. With Acrobat 4 we are able to "preserve overprint settings" while creating PDF. The overprint settings are in fact preserved in the PDF file (we can check this using Eyedropper plug-in). But when you use Acrobat to either export the PDF file to EPS or print 4 colour seps (via PDFOutput Pro plug-in from Callas) the output settings are not maintained. How is the Ad Industry + Print Industry using PDF workflow? Are they still using pre-separated files? Any ideas? _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 9:04:39-GMT,2356;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06116 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:04:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA24242; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:59:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:58:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA24138; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:58:07 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] autorun, acro 4 from CD Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:57:30 +0100 Message-ID: <006501bedf20$8d3ec040$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000401bededa$0bf07f60$e640dccf@amada.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > * hmmm- well, I guess Macs do it differently, anyhow... AutoRun is technically possible on the Mac, but you don't find Mac applications that use it. The Mac model is that a folder pops up when you insert a disk. Anything more would be considered unacceptable behaviour my many Mac users. This folder must include clearly labelled icons to get started. Also, because of a recent spate of viruses spread on the Mac through autorun, most savvy Mac users have switched it off. (The reason viruses spread is that autorun on a Mac also affected removable drives like ZIP drives). Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 9:47:18-GMT,4577;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07059 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:47:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27275; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 04:42:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 04:41:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27095; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 04:41:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990805103921.01820640@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:39:21 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Overprint Stteings In-Reply-To: <01bedf11$a6401c10$02c802c0@workstation> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 12:40 05/08/99 +0530, S Khullar wrote: >>>> I have been trying to find solution to the overprint problem. I have asked various experts. Even tried the Adobe PDF forum. But still no solution. May be someone from PDFZone could help. The problem: getting the overprint/knockout/trap settings right through a composite PDF workflow to 4 colour seps. With Acrobat 4 we are able to "preserve overprint settings" while creating PDF. The overprint settings are in fact preserved in the PDF file (we can check this using Eyedropper plug-in). But when you use Acrobat to either export the PDF file to EPS or print 4 colour seps (via PDFOutput Pro plug-in from Callas) the output settings are not maintained. How is the Ad Industry + Print Industry using PDF workflow? Are they still using pre-separated files? Any ideas? <<<<<<<< I think you're running into a problem that is lurking in Acrobat 4 and hasn't been noticed by many people yet because there aren't that many PostScript LanguageLevel 3 or PDF 1.3 RIPs out there. PDF 1.3 (as created by Acrobat 4) introduces an overprinting model radically different from that supported in PostScript Level 2 and LanguageLevel 3. It's far closer to the model used when you separate a job in QuarkXPress, Illustrator, FreeHand, PageMaker etc. (and it's also the default model in a Harlequin RIP). For full details see the definition of OPM in an Extended Graphics State resource in the PDF 1.3 manual, but in simple terms it allows an object defined in CMYK colorspace to overprint another. The default setting of OPM in Acrobat Distiller 4 sets OPM to 1, which uses the 'new' model. So, the overprinting data is preserved in the PDF file. When you print PostScript from Acrobat to a RIP you may or may not see it. If you print to a Level 2 RIP you won't. If you print LangageLevel 3 code to a LanguageLevel 3 RIP you will (because it uses DeviceN colorspaces). So, will you see the overprints? Using PostScript from most front-end applications the following table applies: PS -> RIP No PS -> AD3 -> PDF 1.2 -> PS -> RIP No PS -> AD3 -> PDF 1.2 -> RIP No PS -> AD4 -> PDF 1.3 -> PS 2 -> RIP No PS -> AD4 -> PDF 1.3 -> PS 3 -> RIP Yes PS -> AD4 -> PDF 1.3 -> RIP Yes (PS = PostScript, PS 2 = PostScript level 2 etc. AD3 = Acrobate Distiller 3 etc.) Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 9:59:46-GMT,1994;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07280 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:59:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28136; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 04:55:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 04:54:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28063; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 04:54:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] mass distillation of non-post script files? Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:35:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On 08/10/1999 at 4:59 PM, Judy Chen wrote: >Is there a way to mass distill non post script files to pdf? Judy: You might want to check out a product called Transverter Pro by Tech Pool software (www.techpool.com). I'm not sure, but this product might be capable of doing some or all of what you want. - Cynthia Leslie Citation Software Inc. www.citationsoftware.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 10:08:20-GMT,2960;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07484 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 04:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28848; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:04:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:02:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28706; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:02:09 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <006501bedf20$8d3ec040$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <000401bededa$0bf07f60$e640dccf@amada.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:02:05 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] autorun, acro 4 from CD Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi, on the other hand, there are way more Mac appliations which run without any further installation procedure. That means that the alternative to the Windoze Autorun is having a file available in the window and have the user double click it ... and it works. Besides that, the Mac first looks for the application on the same volume before it starts already installed applications. This means that with your CD wich has the Reader available, you double click a start PDF and the Reader opens, no matter if you have the full product installed or not. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >AutoRun is technically possible on the Mac, but you don't >find Mac applications that use it. > >The Mac model is that a folder pops up when you insert >a disk. Anything more would be considered unacceptable >behaviour my many Mac users. This folder must include >clearly labelled icons to get started. > >Also, because of a recent spate of viruses spread on the >Mac through autorun, most savvy Mac users have switched >it off. (The reason viruses spread is that autorun on >a Mac also affected removable drives like ZIP drives). _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 10:30:05-GMT,2031;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07894 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 04:30:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA30286; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:26:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:25:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA30219; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:25:23 -0500 Message-ID: <002601bedf2c$daea5d20$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:25:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks Max I am going to run a few speed tests if its not too slow loading from the CD it would be better for Cd publishing where we can be sure if our plug-in is located. I'll alos check with Adobe to make sure if all the features are enabled. Paul Dennis Complete Picture London Publishing Solutions For Industry _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 12:57:20-GMT,3025;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA10905 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:57:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08489; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:49:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:46:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08193; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:46:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:39:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On 08/04/1999 at 11:55 AM, Max Wyss wrote: >there is no need for an FTP server to be available. As soon as >there is a possibility on a webserver to temporarily put the >files, they no longer need to be transferred as e-mail >attachments. > >One can create a directory on the webserver which is otherwise >unlinked to the rest of the net. Then -- and here, FTP will be >used normally -- one can upload the file to that directory. Then >one sends an e-mail to the recipient of the file containing the >URL of the uploaded file. This will be a http-address. Also in >that mail will be some instructions on how to grab the file, and >particularly when disk space on the web server is scarce, >require a message that the file was well received. Then one >deletes the file again, and makes space for the next one. The >only limitation here is the available disk space, and the >transmission rate. What Max has described is exactly what the "UPS Document Exchange" service does for you. It provides the required storage space; stores the file to be transmitted; composes and sends the e-mail to the intended recipient; optionally lets the sender know when the intended has recipient downloaded the file. Again - as I mentioned yesterday - I haven't used it myself, but it certainly seems like a great concept. Find out about it at www.ups.com. - Cynthia Leslie Citation Software Inc. www.citationsoftware.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 14:33:04-GMT,2033;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13182 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:33:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18871; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:28:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:25:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18632; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:25:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199908051425.HAA16404@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 07:26:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] autorun, acro 4 from CD From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > AutoRun is technically possible on the Mac, but you don't > find Mac applications that use it. AutoRun on a MAC is called "AutoPlay." The only way that I know how to set it is through Adaptec Toast when creating a hybrid MAC/ISO formatted CD. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 15:06:00-GMT,2523;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13923 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:05:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22431; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:01:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:00:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22223; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:00:38 -0500 X-Sender: suec@tsmail.tshore.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: suec@tshore.com (Sue Campbell) Subject: Re: [PDF] batch processing to pdf Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:00:16 -0400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >How does one batch process/convert documents (various software including >FrameMaker, Excel, and Microsoft Word) into pdf? I've created a watch >folder and put in some documents but nothing is happening (it is set to >check every 10 seconds). Inside the watched folder is a In & Out folder. You need to make sure your files are dropped in the *In* folder. Also Acrobat needs to be running. Another Pitfall with watched folders, be sure you set your Job Options for that folder otherwise you may get unexpected results. Regards, Sue ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sue Campbell Training & Production Coordinator Thomson-Shore, Inc. 734.426.6293 http://www.tshore.com "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goals" -Unknown _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 15:53:53-GMT,2163;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15202 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:53:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26748; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:44:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:42:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26569; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:42:24 -0500 Message-ID: <008d01bedf59$5a75b720$fcd8e1cf@wordcruncher.com> From: "James W. Johnston" To: Subject: [PDF] Massive batch conversion Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:44:06 -0600 Organization: WCTI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We are investigating what it will take to convert approximately 10,000 flat files (came from a database) into PDF files. A couple of questions: 1) Does anyone on the list have experience with this sort of application; and if so 2) Can you suggest any tools with which to automate the process so that it can be run in a "batch" mode? Many thanks for your help. James W. Johnston Exec VP - WCTI, Inc. johnston@wordcruncher.com 801-816-9904 x102 _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 16:13:23-GMT,2241;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15662 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:13:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28766; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:07:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:05:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28598; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:05:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <008d01bedf59$5a75b720$fcd8e1cf@wordcruncher.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:07:22 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] Massive batch conversion Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >We are investigating what it will take to convert approximately 10,000 flat >files (came from a database) into PDF files. A couple of questions: > >1) Does anyone on the list have experience with this sort of application; >and if so >2) Can you suggest any tools with which to automate the process so that it >can be run in a "batch" mode? James, SysPrint has the best tools for batch conversion of mainframe database info into PDF. They can be found at http://www.sysprint.com. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 16:28:34-GMT,2018;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16086 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:28:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30525; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:25:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:23:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30329; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:23:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Balaji, V." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Burning in Document Stamps into PDF files using Acrobat Exchange Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:23:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know is there is a way to create Document stamps (that say for example - CONFIDENTIAL USE ONLY or DISCARD AFTER USE) on a PDF document ? I know I can use the field tool to create a field, enter a name for the field and enter text into the text area, but that forces me to check the Read-only sign, and also not be able to store Pre-prepared stamps that I can just place on a document. Thank you balaji@harman.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 14:26:11-GMT,2532;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13007 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:26:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18110; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:20:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:17:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17694; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:17:18 -0500 From: "Diana Holm" To: Cc: "\"James W. Johnston\"" Subject: [PDF] Security & Overhead Questions Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:20:33 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bedf56$0fd2b040$07e2a4d8@f2gvt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >1) Is there any way to compute a rough idea of the size a PDF file will be, >and are there ways to keep that size to a minimum? >2) Is there a generally accepted method of limiting the number of times a >downloaded PDF file can be printed? I won't try to answer your first question, which depends firstly on the format and size of your source file and secondly on the options you choose in the Acrobat Distiller or PDFWriter, but as to your second: FileOpen PDF provides a mechanism for controling the number of times a downloaded PDF file can be printed. You can evaluate the software from http://www.fileopen.com Diana Holm Director of Marketing FileOpen Systems Inc. 101 W. 85th Street, Suite 1-4 New York, NY 10024 212-501-9567 http://www.fileopen.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 18:38:40-GMT,2584;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19512 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:38:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12452; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:34:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:32:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12217; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:32:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:32:21 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Burning in Document Stamps into PDF files using Acrobat Exchange In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Does anyone know is there is a way to create Document stamps (that say for > example - CONFIDENTIAL USE ONLY or DISCARD AFTER USE) > on a PDF document ? Acrobat 4 adds a stamp annotation type that may be adequate for your purposes. Also, there is a commerical plug-in that does this: StampPDF at http:\\www.digapp.com. > I know I can use the field tool to create a field, enter a name for the > field and enter text into the text area, but that forces me to check the > Read-only > sign, and also not be able to store Pre-prepared stamps that I can just > place on a document. You can also use button fields to display a graphic. You can create a PDF with each page being a graphic that you want to appear as the button icon. You can either manually specify which PDF page to use or you could create a series of FDF files that contain various icon appearances and import them to in the PDF to change the button icon. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 19:14:51-GMT,2447;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20746 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:14:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15375; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:04:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:03:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15189; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:03:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:02:51 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Burning in Document Stamps into PDF files using Acrobat Exchange In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > You can also use button fields to display a graphic. You can create a PDF > with each page being a graphic that you want to appear as the button icon. > You can either manually specify which PDF page to use or you could create > a series of FDF files that contain various icon appearances and import > them to in the PDF to change the button icon. There are also several ways of automating adding the button form fields to a document and setting the button icon, from using templates and JavaScript (Quick n Dirty Folio Creator at http://www.users.fast.net/~krm/) to using the new Forms API with Acrobat 4 (see Acrobat SDK at http://partners.adobe.com). Also, once the button icon is set, you can redistill which removes the form buttons but "burns" your stamp. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 19:40:25-GMT,2029;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21438 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:40:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18397; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:32:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:31:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18192; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:31:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199908051931.OAA18170@everglades.binc.net> From: "Kitchen, James x1298" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Burning in Document Stamps into PDF files using Acrobat Exchange Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:32:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Another way, and what we do is print it back through distiller adding a watermark. You can store the water marks and easily output a doc with one for dist or printing. I found using an outline and not putting it behind works best. Hope this helps James Kitchen GENICOM - > Does anyone know is there is a way to create Document stamps (that say for > example - CONFIDENTIAL USE ONLY or DISCARD AFTER USE) > on a PDF document ? _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 5-Aug-1999 23:30:12-GMT,1859;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27501 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:30:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06840; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:22:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:20:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06439; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:20:42 -0500 Message-ID: <5E24A8B7176ED211A12100A0C9D184083F582A@ill02.jda-chicago.com> From: Cheryl Reinertsen To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Opening PDFs to a specific page Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:20:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We've been converting FrameMaker documents to PDF for use as on-line documentation and it's almost perfect. However, when the PDF is opened, it always opens to the first page. Is there a way or a tool available to make the PDF open to a specific page from an external application? _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 6-Aug-1999 0:53:08-GMT,3225;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29488 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:53:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13813; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:49:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:47:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13669; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:47:21 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F85138953518C@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] batch processing to pdf Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:49:26 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Another technique that hasnt been advertised about Acrobat 4 is it's ability to import DOC/XLS/PPT/FM5 files directly and convert them to PDF. (Open Port) Go to the file menu in Acrobat and select OPEN, from the File Type drop down is a list of Files that are directly supported by Acrobat. Watched Folders are a great tool, but like Sue says make sure your Job Settings are correct otherwise your PDF's may not end up how you want ... Dave.......... -------------------------- > > > >How does one batch process/convert documents (various software including > >FrameMaker, Excel, and Microsoft Word) into pdf? I've created a watch > >folder and put in some documents but nothing is happening (it is set to > >check every 10 seconds). > > Inside the watched folder is a In & Out folder. You need to make sure your > files are dropped in the *In* folder. Also Acrobat needs to be running. > > Another Pitfall with watched folders, be sure you set your Job Options for > that folder otherwise you may get unexpected results. > > Regards, Sue > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~ > Sue Campbell > Training & Production Coordinator > Thomson-Shore, Inc. > 734.426.6293 > http://www.tshore.com > > "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off > your goals" > -Unknown > > > _ > _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ > <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> > <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > _____________________________________________________________ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 6-Aug-1999 3:16:33-GMT,2477;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02635 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 21:16:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25727; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:12:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:10:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25415; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:10:40 -0500 Message-ID: <37AA5290.74EB630B@rochester.rr.com> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 23:12:17 -0400 From: "Douglas L. Beales" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] light grey in pdf files not printing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have recently experienced a situation where lightly shaded areas of pdf files, such as a light grey background in a cell of a spreadsheet, display when viewed by either Acrobat Reader 3.01 or Acrobat Reader 4, but do not print when sent to a postscript printer. Specifically, printed to a HP LaserJet 4si printer using the PostScript driver, the shaded areas print as white, but when sent to the same printer using the pcl driver, the shaded areas print correctly. This has happened on both PDF 1.2 files and PDF 1.3 files. Interestingly, if the driver dialogue window is checked for "Level 1", then the shaded areas do print. This problem occurs on more than one type of PostScript printer, and from more than one pc running either Windows 98 or NT4. I have searched the Adobe database looking for this problem, but not found it described anyplace. Has anyone experienced similar problems? _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 6-Aug-1999 14:27:43-GMT,3743;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16350 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:27:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10724; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:23:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:19:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09884; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:19:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990806102348.008ef780@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 10:23:48 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II In-Reply-To: <199908061247.HAA32151@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >A virus in a PDF file? I thought that it was impossible for a PDF to have a virus >inside/attached to it because it was postscript based or something like >that. It's very unlikely, but there are other related situations that seem to apply in this context. - Let's say I want to email you a PDF and decide to ZIP compress it. Then I realize you might not be ZIP-literate, so I convert that to a self-extracting EXE to make it simple for you. If my system is infected, I suppose the EXE could become infected as well. Your virus scanner software might catch that or not, depending on how recent the virus and how up-to-date your software. A virus could travel that way. Not in the PDF, but you might say as a result of my sending you the PDF (or any other file, of course). - The PDF might have a link to launch some other program that could do harm. You'll be warned before it tries, but some people pay no attention to these things and just hit the OK button. Again, the PDF itself doesn't contain a virus as such, but can be the means by which maliciousness is perpetrated on the unwary. - The PDF might contain PS pass-through code. This gets sent directly to the PS interpreter when you print the PDF. It's possible that this might do naughty things to your printer. Or if you use a software PS RIP that happens to allow access to the disk system, there's more potential yet for mischief. I gather that you can disable this sort of access in GhostScript, for instance, but I don't know if that's possible with other RIPs, or that it's set to disabled by default in GS. Anybody? - PDF might contain Javascript. This is supposed to be very well isolated from anything that could cause users trouble, but then most servers are supposed to be completely secure and hackers keep finding ways in. It's not inconceivable that something similar could happen in a PDF. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 6-Aug-1999 16:04:47-GMT,2931;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18976 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:04:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21775; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:58:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:55:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21334; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:55:00 -0500 Message-ID: <002101bee024$273e6e80$e35519c4@reception> From: "Hilton Holder" To: Subject: [PDF] "Extracting" one page, using only Acrobat reader Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:54:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01BEE034.C6039F80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BEE034.C6039F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My client has only Acrobat Reader (3.0). He prints to .prn one page from = a PDF file, then sends it to someone else and the recipient cannot open = or print the .prn. What can I advise. The sender and the recipient both = have not much more than Acrobat reader 3.0 and Windows 98. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BEE034.C6039F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My client has only Acrobat Reader (3.0). He prints = to .prn one=20 page from a PDF file, then sends it to someone else and the recipient = cannot=20 open or print the .prn. What can I advise. The sender and the recipient = both=20 have not much more than Acrobat reader 3.0 and Windows=20 98.
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BEE034.C6039F80-- _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 6-Aug-1999 16:15:43-GMT,3692;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19248 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:15:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23421; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:11:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:09:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22999; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:09:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199908061609.JAA99792@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 09:09:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] "Extracting" one page, using only Acrobat reader From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3016775357_8867794_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3016775357_8867794_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit My client has only Acrobat Reader (3.0). He prints to .prn one page from a PDF file, then sends it to someone else and the recipient cannot open or print the .prn. What can I advise. The sender and the recipient both have not much more than Acrobat reader 3.0 and Windows 98. Unfortunately, with Reader you *only* can print a PDF using a printer. Why not have your client send a copy of the PDF which the recipient can then open and print with his Reader? If he doesn't have Reader, he can download it free from Adobe. r|i|c|h Oh, and please, we would appreciate future posts to be in normal format, and not html. It's so much easier on all of the members of the list. Thanks. --MS_Mac_OE_3016775357_8867794_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] "Extracting" one page, using only Acrobat reader=
My client has only Acrobat Reader (3.0). He prin= ts to .prn one page from a PDF file, then sends it to someone else and the r= ecipient cannot open or print the .prn. What can I advise. The sender and th= e recipient both have not much more than Acrobat reader 3.0 and Windows 98.<= BR>
Unfortunately, with Reader you *only* can print a PDF using a = printer.

Why not have your client send a copy of the PDF which the recipient can the= n open and print with his Reader? If he doesn't have Reader, he can download= it free from Adobe.

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Oh, and please, we would appreciate future posts to be in normal format, an= d not html. It's so much easier on all of the members of the list. Thanks. --MS_Mac_OE_3016775357_8867794_MIME_Part-- _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 6-Aug-1999 16:32:36-GMT,2646;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19749 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:32:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25898; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:28:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:24:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25478; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:24:16 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] "Extracting" one page, using only Acrobat reader Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:23:35 +0100 Message-ID: <008801bee028$08a07640$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002101bee024$273e6e80$e35519c4@reception> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ For some reason, this is a common error. PRN files are for printing; they are not a way of extracting pages, exchanging information, or making files editable. The contents of the PRN file will be understood only by a printer. They will not be a PDF file any longer. This is not unique to Acrobat; it is true of a PRN printed from ANY application at all. You have only two possibilities. 1. Send the entire file. 2. The sender can obtain a full copy of Acrobat and use the Document > Extract pages function, then save a copy and e-mail it. Aandi -----Original Message----- My client has only Acrobat Reader (3.0). He prints to .prn one page from a PDF file, then sends it to someone else and the recipient cannot open or print the .prn. What can I advise. The sender and the recipient both have not much more than Acrobat reader 3.0 and Windows 98. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 6-Aug-1999 16:46:15-GMT,2659;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20145 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:46:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27766; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:43:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:39:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27027; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:39:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199908061639.JAA05079@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:56:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening PDFs to a specific page From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We've been converting FrameMaker documents to PDF for use as on-line > documentation and it's almost perfect. However, when the PDF is opened, it > always opens to the first page. Is there a way or a tool available to make > the PDF open to a specific page from an external application? Since users desire faster navigation, I usually set my FrameMaker PDFs to open to a view of the table of contents - usually page 5 or so - bypassing the title page boilerplate. To do so, I use the FILE/DOCUMENT INFO/OPEN command in either Exchange (3.x) or Acrobat (4.x). In there is a box for specifying which page will occupy your initial view. NOTE: Users also like to know that they accessed the document they specified so if your TOC doesn't have your document title on it, you might add a text field on the opening view with the title - this can be set not to print. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 6-Aug-1999 16:46:28-GMT,2502;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20163 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:46:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27695; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:43:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:39:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26972; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:38:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199908061638.JAA04950@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 09:12:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] light grey in pdf files not printing From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have recently experienced a situation where lightly shaded areas of > pdf files, such as a light grey background in a cell of a spreadsheet, > display when viewed by either Acrobat Reader 3.01 or Acrobat Reader 4, > but do not print when sent to a postscript printer. Try this - I don't think this is a PDF problem. It may be a printer/dpi vs. lpi/grayscale issue. Go into the Print Setup Properties box for your printer. In general, to resolve the lightest grays you need the highest ratio of dpi (maximum for your printer) to lpi (set in your original document before distilling). There are also Device Options for "Enhancing Levels of Gray" and Postscript options that may provide an answer. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 6-Aug-1999 17:18:28-GMT,3081;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21096 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:18:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30863; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:12:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:08:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30359; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:08:32 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 12:48:31 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA30355 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Judyth -- Very complete and useful feedback on the viccisitudes of e-mail! You are clearly a battle-scarred veteran, and I appreciate being able to learn from your experiences. So please allow me to trade a few of my own: >I have no experience of servers disabling self-extraction; I do know of >instances where a file became corrupted in transit, probably due to loss of >data during transmission over noisy phone lines. A few weeks ago I was transferring files back and forth between an AOL Account & a Novell Groupwise System. I had bundles some logos & art (possibly a PDF or two) into a Stuffit Self-explanding file. Initially the stuff was sent from the AOL acct. to Groupwise. Sadly I informed the recipient (not too computer saavy) that all he had to do was double-click the Stuffit doc. Apparantly, someplace along the way, the self-extracting part of the file was disabled or stripped off. It was still a fully complete Stuffit file, just not self extracting. So I did an experiment, & sent the file back to the AOL acct. This time the file arrived as a ".mim" document (MIME compression). This doc. could be unstuffed to reveal the stuffit file inside. (All MAC, by the way). Once you know what's going on it's no problem at all to fix, just drop it into Stuffit Expander or similar, but to the non-computer saavy client, its fertile ground for an ulcer garden. Cheers! Jeff Sauber S&S Adv. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 6-Aug-1999 20:43:38-GMT,2692;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26898 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:43:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21481; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:40:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:35:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21084; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:35:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990806163932.008f7a50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 16:39:32 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] "Extracting" one page, using only Acrobat reader In-Reply-To: <002101bee024$273e6e80$e35519c4@reception> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 05:54 PM 8/6/99 +0200, you wrote: >>>> My client has only Acrobat Reader (3.0). He prints to .prn one page from a PDF file, then sends it to someone else and the recipient cannot open or print the .prn. What can I advise. The sender and the recipient both have not much more than Acrobat reader 3.0 and Windows 98. <<<<<<<< Imagine somebody cut the pipe between your computer and your printer and collected all the data in a bucket. That's essentially what a PRN file is. It's usually pretty useless unless you happen to have the same model printer or (if it happens to be a PostScript printer) you have Distiller, so you can convert the PRN (ie, PostScript file) to a PDF. What is it you're trying to accomplish? And what Acrobat software do you have? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 7-Aug-1999 6:48:40-GMT,1887;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA09428 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 00:48:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA06008; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 01:42:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Aug 1999 01:38:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04889; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 01:38:07 -0500 Message-ID: <37ABD3CA.47BB5B31@thiru.vetri.com> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 12:05:55 +0530 From: "Murali Krishnan.J" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How to create Pop Up Text... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I have some PDF normal files with bookmarks created. I have some text wherein I would like to show some pop up text as soon as the user takes the mouse pointer there. How do i create pop up text? Any ideas and suggestions in this regard would be of great help for me. Thanks, Murali _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 7-Aug-1999 15:14:11-GMT,2732;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17987 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:14:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26908; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:04:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:58:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25843; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:58:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199908071458.HAA00839@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 07:52:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] How to create Pop Up Text... From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have some text > wherein I would like to show some pop up text as soon as the user takes > the mouse pointer there. If you use the forms tool, you can create a button field that can be programmed to perform a "rollover." This is generally the way to go if you have a very limited amount of text that will fit on one line to fill the button. If you have more text in mind, then create a two text fields. One will act as the trigger and while it may not be visible, its APPEARANCE is never HIDDEN. Call it "Trigger". The other text field is HIDDEN and it contains your message. Call it "Text". Once you create "Trigger" and "Text", you program the trigger using the ACTIONS tab - for "mouse enter" and "mouse exit" actions. For instance, on "mouse enter" select "SHOW-HIDE FIELD" as the action and specify SHOW "Text". Then on "mouse exit" select "SHOW-HIDE FIELD" as the action and specify HIDE "Text". The net result is a rollover. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 7-Aug-1999 15:52:59-GMT,2163;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18720 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:52:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02507; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:49:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:45:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01990; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:45:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to create Pop Up Text... In-Reply-To: <37ABD3CA.47BB5B31@thiru.vetri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have some text > wherein I would like to show some pop up text as soon as the user takes > the mouse pointer there. How do i create pop up text? You can set up a text field with the text you want displayed. Place another field on top of that, and in the second field's "Mouse Enter" event specify an action of "Show/Hide Field", and select the first text field to hide. In the "Mouse Exit" event, select the first text field to hide. If the second field overlaps the first, make sure its background color is set to nothing (i.e., background color check box is unchecked). _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 7-Aug-1999 21:56:04-GMT,4398;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25094 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 15:55:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30968; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:51:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:46:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30526; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:46:20 -0500 From: espresso@e-scape.net X-Sender: espresso@sage.e-scape.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:49:26 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jeff Auber wrote: >Very complete and useful feedback on the viccisitudes of e-mail! You are >>clearly a battle-scarred veteran, and I appreciate being able to learn >>from your experiences. So please allow me to trade a few of my own: Thanks for the kind words and for sharing your experiences. I have come across the recipient-gets-MIME problem many times, more at less at random, and it's easily resolved once one knows that's what happened. I had not heard of the removal-of-self-extraction-code issue but suspect it may be a systems administrator's response to too many self-executing viruses: I'm not a network person but believe it is technically feasible to program the server to do it. Justin Blocksom is blissfully correct in assuming that PDFs are much less likely to carry viruses than proprietary wordprocessing files. For one thing, far fewer virus-writing idiots are capable of creating a PDF in the first place; for another, one can attack more machines by sticking to programs practically everyone has received pre-loaded. Thanks to Steve Rindsberg who provided a very lucid explanation of the potential problem areas in distributing PDFs. Thanks to Aandi Inston, who points out that fear of attachments has lulled some users into a false sense of security about other methods of file transfer. You're certainly right, too, about the unlikelihood of software developers devoting much time to the comfort of those who use older equipment and/or other platforms, especially those in the Wintel world. Still, it should be noted that more people are moving to open source environments and these platforms do tend to consider backward compatibility an asset rather than a pain. Also, as companies like Aladdin and Norton have shown, one can turn quite a respectable profit selling relatively inexpensive but useful software to all kinds of computer-users rather than focusing on selling more expensive software to early adapters. Actually, since Adobe provides Acrobat Reader free anyhow, why would it not make Reader 1.0 available for download by those who cannot use later versions? It wouldn't solve the problem of not being able to use the most recent PDFs, but it *would* make it possible for people like me to distribute documentation that looks better on-screen and in print to more people at the low end--especially nice since I provide the stuff for free and it is no trouble at all to make the very basic PDFs required. I hardly think this would cut into Adobe's market for the new suites. What do you think? Would this work or should I be asking Adobe for permission to distribute the earlier Readers myself? Regards, Judyth ******************************************************** Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..." Montreal, QC, Canada ******************************************************** _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 7-Aug-1999 23:12:43-GMT,2758;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26513 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:12:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03967; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:06:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:02:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03631; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:02:41 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990807190644.00898300@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 19:06:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Actually, since Adobe provides Acrobat Reader free anyhow, why would it not >make Reader 1.0 available for download by those who cannot use later >versions? It wouldn't solve the problem of not being able to use the most >recent PDFs, but it *would* make it possible for people like me to >distribute documentation that looks better on-screen and in print to more >people at the low end--especially nice since I provide the stuff for free >and it is no trouble at all to make the very basic PDFs required. I hardly >think this would cut into Adobe's market for the new suites. What do you >think? Would this work or should I be asking Adobe for permission to >distribute the earlier Readers myself? > I'd think that so long as you have one of the original freely distributed Readers, you'd be free to continue distributing it (assuming that was permissible in the first place ... of that I'm not sure). Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 8-Aug-1999 9:47:50-GMT,2182;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07808 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 03:47:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15819; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 04:42:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Aug 1999 04:36:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15291; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 04:36:30 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 10:35:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bee181$600629c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990807190644.00898300@pop.iglou.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'd think that so long as you have one of the original freely > distributed > Readers, you'd be free to continue distributing it (assuming that was > permissible in the first place ... of that I'm not sure). That's true of all versions except 1.0, which was a commercial product (sold only in multiples of 50, in fact). Adobe later made the DOS (not Windows) 1.0 version into a free release. Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 8-Aug-1999 18:55:41-GMT,2471;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17091 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:55:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23374; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:49:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:44:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22920; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:44:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990808144900.008f8100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 14:49:00 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II In-Reply-To: <000201bee181$600629c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990807190644.00898300@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >That's true of all versions except 1.0, which was a commercial >product (sold only in multiples of 50, in fact). Adobe later made >the DOS (not Windows) 1.0 version into a free release. > Yes. In fact, I did some rummaging in the piles around here and found an Acrobat Sampler CD that includes the Version 1 Reader for DOS and some flavor or other of Unix. On the cover of the CD, it says "Shareable Acrobat Reader 2.0 included". I suppose the "Shareable" part would extend to the DOS/Unix Reader as well, but the usual disclaimers apply. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 7:02:08-GMT,3503;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00510 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 01:02:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16029; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 01:56:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 01:52:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15735; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 01:52:05 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Overprint Stteings Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:40:33 +0530 Message-ID: <01bee236$4590a010$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Martin Bailey At last I have some answers. But the main question remains. What is the solution? You will say PS L3. Agfa says Apogee. But what about the rest? Specifically, a newspaper who has PL L2 Rip, wants to accept adverts in PDF. What should he do? Advice the clients not to use overprint? khullar >I think you're running into a problem that is lurking in Acrobat 4 and hasn't been noticed by many people yet because there aren't that many PostScript LanguageLevel 3 or PDF 1.3 RIPs out there. > >PDF 1.3 (as created by Acrobat 4) introduces an overprinting model radically different from that supported in PostScript Level 2 and LanguageLevel 3. It's far closer to the model used when you separate a job in QuarkXPress, Illustrator, FreeHand, PageMaker etc. (and it's also the default model in a Harlequin RIP). > >For full details see the definition of OPM in an Extended Graphics State resource in the PDF 1.3 manual, but in simple terms it allows an object defined in CMYK colorspace to overprint another. The default setting of OPM in Acrobat Distiller 4 sets OPM to 1, which uses the 'new' model. > >So, the overprinting data is preserved in the PDF file. When you print PostScript from Acrobat to a RIP you may or may not see it. If you print to a Level 2 RIP you won't. If you print LangageLevel 3 code to a LanguageLevel 3 RIP you will (because it uses DeviceN colorspaces). > >So, will you see the overprints? > >Using PostScript from most front-end applications the following table applies: > >PS -> RIP No >PS -> AD3 -> PDF 1.2 -> PS -> RIP No >PS -> AD3 -> PDF 1.2 -> RIP No >PS -> AD4 -> PDF 1.3 -> PS 2 -> RIP No >PS -> AD4 -> PDF 1.3 -> PS 3 -> RIP Yes >PS -> AD4 -> PDF 1.3 -> RIP Yes > >(PS = PostScript, PS 2 = PostScript level 2 etc. AD3 = Acrobate Distiller 3 etc.) > >Regards > >Martin Bailey _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 8:12:25-GMT,2492;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01807 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 02:12:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA21166; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 03:07:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 03:04:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20951; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 03:04:06 -0500 Message-ID: <002401bee23d$a81b5ac0$9a3770c2@win95> From: "Peter Mathews" To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Burning in Document Stamps into PDF files using Acrobat Exchange Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:43:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ V. Balaji said... Does anyone know is there is a way to create Document stamps (that say for example - CONFIDENTIAL USE ONLY or DISCARD AFTER USE) on a PDF document ? We have a product called PDF Protector which is designed just for the watermarking issues you have outlined. Contact me offlist for details (and I'll email you an evaluation copy). Peter. -- /// --- /// --- // Computerstream Limited -- // // // // -- // 70 Tamworth Road - // + -- // + // Ashby de la Zouch // + // + // Leicestershire --// // --// // // LE65 2PR, UK -- /// /// -- /////// Tel: (+44) (0) 1530 412790 Fax: (+44) (0) 1530 564450 www.computerstream.co.uk _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 10:37:56-GMT,3654;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04307 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:37:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA31088; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:30:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:27:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA30915; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:27:23 -0500 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Trouble scanning w/ Acrobat 4.0 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:27:15 +0200 Message-ID: <01bee251$c04db8e0$e766513e@portos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all: I'm a little late, I know. I was out. The originzal message was posted on 03/08/99 Just to point out that I run a Fujitsu 3097DG scanner with both TWAIN and ISIS drivers just fine. In fact, this scanner is duplex (scans both sides at a atime) and I don't find the ISIS driver for this model, so I have to use the TWAIN driver. It works just fine. So I guarantee Acrobat 4.0 allows the use of TWAIN drivers. (at least mines) Regards, Carlos Gonzalez. ************************************************************** La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos Gonzalez Marti Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel: + 34 915 344 348 Fax: + 34 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************** -----Original Message----- De: Hagar, Laura M Para: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Fecha: martes 3 de agosto de 1999 18:25 Asunto: RE: [PDF] Trouble scanning w/ Acrobat 4.0 Larry, We've been through what you're going through now. Adobe told me that Acrobat 4.0 doesn't use Twain Drivers (Exchange 3.x does). Instead 4.0 uses ISIS drivers. Check with Adobe to be sure. That could be the problem. It was for us. Laura Hagar Lockheed Martin Astronautics Documentation > Greetings all. > > I have a pc (Win95) that has Capture 2.01 (I know, lucky me), anyways, I > just upgraded from Exchange 3.01 to the new Acrobat 4.0 (again, lucky > me) and now I can not scan using Acrobat. It does not recognize my > scanner, and further more there is no set up, or configure button > available. I am still able to use Capture no problem to scan docs, but > if I want to scan in a single page to a document directly via Acrobat- > no go. I am using an Epson 1200-C scanner with Twain drivers if that > makes a difference. > > Do I need to Uninstall both Capture and Acrobat, then reinstall Acrobat > first, then Capture? _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 11:25:02-GMT,2364;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA05092 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:25:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02292; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:21:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:18:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02038; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:18:54 -0500 Message-ID: <00d501bee259$190b72e0$0d08a8ac@pitmagnus.com> From: "Ray Landis" To: Subject: [PDF] Styled fonts Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:19:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I posted this earlier but got no response. Could someone please explain this to me. Hello, We recently have been supplied PS files with fonts embedded that also contain styled fonts. Upon distilling the files (with print options used - embed all fonts and subset at 99%) and sending for film output we get the following error - invalidaccess, offending command def. When we went back and replaced the styled fonts with true fonts the problem went away. Could someone please explain the mechanics of how styled fonts work both in and out of the PDF format. Thanks in advance. they were PS files made from Quark files, distilled with Distiller V3.02 Ray Landis Progressive Info Tech _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 13:21:47-GMT,7593;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07271 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:21:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12897; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:18:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:16:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12674; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:16:19 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <412567C8.004D6C14.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:14:19 +0100 Subject: [PDF] reader 4.0 /w search as webplugin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=VJsdSXG7KvlqAFOF81xEEILwmtUBxjIKxShuQF9YizdTqxjifxOsi1Zp" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --0__=VJsdSXG7KvlqAFOF81xEEILwmtUBxjIKxShuQF9YizdTqxjifxOsi1Zp Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, With reader 4.0 with search (on Win32) you can search in catalog indexes in your reader application. Can you do this in the WebPlugin (Internet Explorer) too? The buttons "next doc", "prev doc" are available but disabled. (Embedded image moved to file: pic17401.pcx) The button "search with catalog" is not present. 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Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:38:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14797; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:35:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:34:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14611; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:34:20 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567C8.003867D2.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:17:16 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] "Extracting" one page, using only Acrobat reader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Hilton, hmmmm, maybe your client should print with a PS printer driver and sends you the PS file which _you_ can reconvert to PDF. Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== "Hilton Holder" 06.08.99 16:54 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] "Extracting" one page, using only Acrobat reader My client has only Acrobat Reader (3.0). He prints to .prn one page from a PDF file, then sends it to someone else and the recipient cannot open or print the .prn. What can I advise. The sender and the recipient both have not much more than Acrobat reader 3.0 and Windows 98. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 13:38:24-GMT,2601;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07625 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14796; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:35:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:34:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14584; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:34:17 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567C8.00379C8D.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:10:24 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] batch processing to pdf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, Maybe it's a missunderstanding, but you CAN'T put Word files into the watched folders. you first have to convert them to PostScript. These PS-Files are the one which Distiller can convert by the watched folders. You can convert any document to PS by "printing" them with a PS printerdriver to disk/file. Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== >How does one batch process/convert documents (various software including >FrameMaker, Excel, and Microsoft Word) into pdf? I've created a watch >folder and put in some documents but nothing is happening (it is set to >check every 10 seconds). _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 13:43:37-GMT,3129;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07746 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:43:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14798; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:35:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:34:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14639; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:34:25 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567C8.003812B2.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:14:20 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] Opening PDFs to a specific page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Cheryl, I don't know how FrameMaker works, but there is a pdfMark command to set the startpage (though it can only be used on PS-files...) Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== Cheryl Reinertsen 06.08.99 00:20 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] Opening PDFs to a specific page The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We've been converting FrameMaker documents to PDF for use as on-line documentation and it's almost perfect. However, when the PDF is opened, it always opens to the first page. Is there a way or a tool available to make the PDF open to a specific page from an external application? _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 15:30:04-GMT,1731;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10197 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:30:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26363; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:25:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:23:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26059; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:23:31 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990809112057.00c6e730@mail.hannah.com> X-Sender: frank@mail.hannah.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 11:23:21 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Frank Atkinson Subject: [PDF] Automatic Printing (like HP's Instant Delivery) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there an easy way to deliver a PDF file and have it printed out automatically, like HP-Instant print will do for web pages ?? _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 15:34:16-GMT,2305;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10389 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:34:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26893; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:30:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:29:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26756; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:29:36 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <412567C8.004D6C14.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:20:48 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] reader 4.0 /w search as webplugin Cc: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Laura, The Catalog and the search plug-in work only in a file-server environment. They do not in a web server environment (which you have when you are working in a browser). You would have to provide your own indexing system for the web-server environment. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Hi, > >With reader 4.0 with search (on Win32) you can search in catalog indexes in >your reader application. > >Can you do this in the WebPlugin (Internet Explorer) too? > > _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 16:22:29-GMT,2487;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12173 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:22:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32288; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:18:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:16:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31983; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:16:45 -0500 Message-id: Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 08:23:31 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] Styled fonts To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >We recently have been supplied PS files with fonts embedded that also >contain styled fonts. Upon distilling the files (with print options >used - >embed all fonts and subset at 99%) and sending for film output we get the >following error - invalidaccess, offending command def. When we went back >and replaced the styled fonts with true fonts the problem went away. >Could >someone please explain the mechanics of how styled fonts work both in and >out of the PDF format. Thanks in advance. > >they were PS files made from Quark files, distilled with Distiller V3.02 I can't say for sure because I'd have to see the file and the fonts you had available, but I'd suspect that when originally created, the styling was calling out a font that didn't exist. For example, the bold style could have been called out, but there was no bold printer font. Hence, the font didn't get embedded in the PostScript file. When the file his Distiller, it didn't know what to do. Just a guess. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 17:07:56-GMT,2126;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13922 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:07:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04068; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:02:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:00:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03835; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:00:26 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic Printing (like HP's Instant Delivery) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:01:19 -0700 Message-ID: <000601bee288$ccf265a0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990809112057.00c6e730@mail.hannah.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is there an easy way to deliver a PDF file and have it printed out > automatically, like HP-Instant print will do for web pages ?? HP Instant Delivery is supposed to work with PDF (and other) files as well. You could also write a program to download a file from a WWW or FTP site and automatically print it out. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 17:42:14-GMT,1899;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14997 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:42:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06990; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:30:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:29:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06789; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:28:58 -0500 Message-ID: <37AF0FC2.43D0E5ED@adobe.com> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:28:34 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to create Pop Up Text... References: <37ABD3CA.47BB5B31@thiru.vetri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There is a much easier way to accomplish this than has been suggested so far. Simply create a form field, and provide a "Short description" in the properties dialog, and this will act as a tool tip when the mouse hovers over that field. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 18:45:38-GMT,2128;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16854 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14816; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:41:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:39:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14514; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:39:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199908091839.LAA01249@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 11:39:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] How to create Pop Up Text... From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > There is a much easier way to accomplish this than has been suggested so far. > Simply create a form field, and provide a "Short description" in the properties > dialog, and this will act as a tool tip when the mouse hovers over that field. Please confirm - is this available only in Acrobat 4? And does it only work in PDF v1.3? -- Thanks, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 9-Aug-1999 19:08:19-GMT,2005;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17351 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:08:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17499; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:04:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:01:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17177; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:01:41 -0500 Message-ID: <37AF2585.D924BE98@adobe.com> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 12:01:25 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to create Pop Up Text... References: <199908091839.LAA01249@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > There is a much easier way to accomplish this than has been suggested so far. > > Simply create a form field, and provide a "Short description" in the > properties > > dialog, and this will act as a tool tip when the mouse hovers over that field. > > Please confirm - is this available only in Acrobat 4? I'm afraid so... _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 8:33:42-GMT,2612;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA27870 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:33:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22758; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:28:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:21:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA22040; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:21:44 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567C9.00333551.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:20:58 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] reader 4.0 /w search as webplugin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Max, Ok, but what are the next doc, prev doc buttons for? Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== Max Wyss 09.08.99 16:20 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor Thema: Re: [PDF] reader 4.0 /w search as webplugin The Catalog and the search plug-in work only in a file-server environment. They do not in a web server environment (which you have when you are working in a browser). You would have to provide your own indexing system for the web-server environment. Hope, this can help. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 8:33:42-GMT,1761;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA27871 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:33:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22759; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:28:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:20:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21836; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:20:21 -0500 Message-ID: <01BEE34C.B1FB5210@PC6837> From: Jessie Ambrosio To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Subject: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Image Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:23:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi! Is it possible to insert and/or replace images on a PDF page? How? Can i insert an image in PDF format? Thank you in advance for any help. Jessie _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 9:03:57-GMT,2596;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28097 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:03:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA25434; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:00:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:53:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25008; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:53:23 -0500 Message-ID: <37AFB12B.6DD9@archangel.net> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:57:27 +0000 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Image References: <01BEE34C.B1FB5210@PC6837> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jessie Ambrosio wrote: > Hi! Is it possible to insert and/or replace images on a PDF page? > How? Can i insert an image in PDF format? Hi Jess, Since Acrobat's editability is somewhat restrictive, you might consider using something like PitStop from Enfocus. ( http://www.enfocus.com ) To do this in Acrobat, you could take the following route (circuitous as it may be)... Distill the picture you want to swap into your existing PDF on a separate page in a separate document. Then select the graphic from one doc and paste it into the other - before or after deleting the original image. This works fairly well in Acrobat 4.x vs. Acrobat 3.x . Regards, Shane -- Shane Steinman Project Head, dMACS Initiative Digital Magazine Advertising Canadian Specifications c/o ArchAngel Media Inc. 15 Kirkland Court, Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA L4C 9H4 Tel/Fax: (416) 410-3355 E-mail: shane@dMACS.org Website: www.dMACS.org _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 9:37:49-GMT,2627;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28332 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:37:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28062; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:34:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:28:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27581; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:28:21 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BEE34C.B1FB5210@PC6837> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:26:10 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Image Cc: Jessie Ambrosio Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jessie, There are essentially two ways to do this. The first way is use button form fields as containers for the images. The second way is editing the PDF with a suitable tool. When you have button fields with the "icon only" setting, you can only use PDFs for display. You would have to convert your images to PDF first. But then, you could replace the image very easily any time, even programmatically. In the second case, you would use an editing tool, with its limitations. Illustrator 8 is one, the other one is for example PitStop by Enfocus. Illustrator allows placing other formats (because it automagically makes the conversion). Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Hi! Is it possible to insert and/or replace images on a PDF page? How? >Can i insert an image in PDF format? > _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 11:21:36-GMT,3896;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28984 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 05:21:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02797; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:16:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:14:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02639; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:14:05 -0500 X-Sender: spencernet@pop.mindspring.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:21:06 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: spencernet@mindspring.com (Stephen Huth) Subject: [PDF] acrobat 4.0 and plug-ins Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The Acrobat 3.01 Reader CD-Rom provided a way in which to included thrird-party Reader plug-ins on an installable version of Acrobat. Thus, a publisher could take a third party plug-in and include it in an installable version of Reader 3.01. On the Macintosh version of Reader this was done by adding a plug-in folder with the plug-ins to the intaller files. On the Windows version, the plug-in was added to the plug-in folder AND a file called ABCPY.ini was modified (see a copy of this file as modified in 3.01 for two plug-ins below). Is there a way to do the same procedure for Mac and Windows versions of Reader 4.0? In other words, how do I make an installable version of 4.0 that will load the third-party plug-ins? Stephen A. Huth managing editor Charles D. Spencer & Associates Inc. 250 S. Wacker Drive Chicago, IL 60606 (312) 993-7900 spencernet@mindspring.com ;********************************************************************* ; ;ABCPY.INI - This file directs the installation of custom plug-ins, ; components, and help files for Acrobat Reader + Search. ; Documentation for its use can be found in ABCPYDOC.INI. ; ;********************************************************************* [ReaderBlindCopy] NumberOfGroups=5 Group1Platform=Win32 Group1DestDir=Plug_Ins Group1Loc=PLUG_INS Group1NumberOfFiles=4 Group1FileName1=ASRCH32.API Group1FileName2=AUTIDX32.API Group1FileName3=HOMEPAGE.API Group1FileName4=TIMEBOMB.API Group2Platform=All Group2DestDir=Help Group2Loc=HELP Group2NumberOfFiles=1 Group2FileName1=SEARCH.PDF Group3Platform=Win32 Group3DestDir=Plug_Ins/VDKHOME Group3Loc=PLUG_INS/VDKHOME Group3NumberOfFiles=5 Group3FileName1=VDK10.STD Group3FileName2=VDK10.CMP Group3FileName3=VDK10.LIC Group3FileName4=VDK10.SYX Group3FileName5=VDK10.THD Group4Platform=Win32 Group4DestDir=Plug_Ins/VDKHOME/LANGUAGE Group4Loc=PLUG_INS/VDKHOME/LANGUAGE Group4NumberOfFiles=6 Group4FileName1=VDK10.LNG Group4FileName2=VDK10.RSD Group4FileName3=VDK10.RST Group4FileName4=VDK10.STC Group4FileName5=VDK10.STP Group4FileName6=VDK10.SYD Group5Platform=Win32 Group5DestDir= Group5Loc=ROOT Group5NumberOfFiles=1 Group5FileName1=VDK150.DLL To get random signatures put text files into a folder called "Random Signatures" into your Preferences folder. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 11:21:37-GMT,2025;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28988 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 05:21:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02852; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:17:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:15:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02731; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:15:48 -0500 Message-ID: <37AFD28C.5125@archangel.net> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:19:56 +0000 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Image References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Max Wyss wrote: > When you have button fields with the "icon only" setting, you can only use > PDFs for display. You would have to convert your images to PDF first. But > then, you could replace the image very easily any time, even > programmatically. Nice touch, Max. I hadn't thought of that one. Shane -- Shane Steinman ArchAngel Media Inc. E-mail: shane@archangel.net _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 11:41:57-GMT,2108;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA29122 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 05:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA04308; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:33:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:32:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04197; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:32:32 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] acrobat 4.0 and plug-ins Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:31:53 +0100 Message-ID: <002001bee323$f290f7e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is there a way to do the same procedure for Mac and Windows > versions of > Reader 4.0? In other words, how do I make an installable > version of 4.0 > that will load the third-party plug-ins? For Windows, see the new ABCPY document, http://partners.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/japan/nonmember/acrosd k/DOCS/abcpydoc.pdf. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 11:51:16-GMT,2458;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA29182 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 05:51:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05435; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:48:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:46:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05314; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:46:48 -0500 From: Cybergrphx@aol.com Message-ID: <57facb8e.24e16b12@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:46:26 EDT Subject: [PDF] Scanning directly to a Postscript file To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 170 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I just received an RFP that has as a requirement scanning various documents directly to a Postscript file. There is also a section on distilling the .PS file into a PDF, but that is for a smaller portion of the documents and I would just skip the .PS stage and use Capture to go directly to a PDF. Anyway, I don't see the point of going to a Postscript file that will be archived and may/may not be converted into a PDF file. And further, I don't think we even know how to do it anyway. It's never come up before. So, does anyone know of a way to scan directly to a Postscript file? I will assume that the client would want the potentially resulting PDF file to be in fully searchable condition if it ever became reality. Are there any benefits (or logic) to doing this as opposed to going directly to PDF? What tools are available to handle this request? Thank you Rob Robertson Cybergraphix, Inc. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 12:31:22-GMT,1985;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29435 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:31:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08606; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:25:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:23:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08458; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:23:32 -0500 Message-ID: <37B028EB.4900DBE4@wordman.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:28:38 -0500 From: David Doonan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf list Subject: [PDF] re: inserting image Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ one quick way to replace an image is to convert it to a pict file, open in qt and export and then use the movie tool to place into the pdf. (make sure to set it to play once and stay open). I did this earlier this morning. Total time, about one minute. -- David Doonan Word Management Albany, New York http://www.wordman.com 518-482-8659 x253 _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 13:00:39-GMT,2769;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29654 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:00:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11551; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:56:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:55:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11399; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:55:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990810085924.008786b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:59:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Scanning directly to a Postscript file In-Reply-To: <57facb8e.24e16b12@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Anyway, I don't see the point of going to a Postscript file that will be >archived and may/may not be converted into a PDF file. Especially since once it's in PDF format you/the client can always print (or export from Exchange) back out to PS *that's suited for whatever device they need to print to*, as opposed to whatever arbitrary device you originally scanned/PostScripted for originally if you were to make PS files. On the other hand, you might ask if they don't really mean EPS files. That might make more sense. And still, with Exchange, you can export EPS from PDF as needed, rather than archiving both formats. >So, does anyone know of a way to scan directly to a Postscript file? Some scanner software allows you to scan and print directly. Print to a PS driver connected to FILE and you have a PS file. One targeted at that particular printer, and possibly of little use on other printers. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 15:10:44-GMT,3057;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01592 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:10:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25384; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:05:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:02:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24935; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:02:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199908101502.IAA10582@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:02:38 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: Inserting/Replacing Image From: "C. Scott Miller" To: Acrobat Talk , PDF Zone Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Hi! Is it possible to insert and/or replace images on a PDF page? How? > Can i insert an image in PDF format? In Acrobat Exchange (3.x) or Acrobat (4.x): You can insert a PDF into a PDF by using the Forms Tool to create a BUTTON field whose LAYOUT has an icon. This icon can be a PDF. What's nice about it is that the completed field can be copied, pasted, scaled, and used to initiate any number of ACTIONS. -------------- In Acrobat 4.x only: In many circumstances you can edit an image using the TOUCHUP OBJECT tool. Look at the Acrobat Guide under the HELP menu starting at page 280 for a complete rundown of how this tool works with Illustrator and Photoshop (5.x). Be sure to look at the editing options contained in the contextual menu for the tool. If you want to paste an image into a PDF file, you can save from Illustrator or Photoshop as a PDF format file and then select all, copy and paste into your PDF (again Acrobat 4 only). If you want to paste a .tif, .gif, .jpg,.pcx, or .bmp file onto your file, you can use the FILE/IMPORT/IMAGE command to create a PDF of it and then copy and paste it into your existing file. You should refer to the Acrobat Guide for details and requirements. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 15:34:06-GMT,2471;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02254 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:34:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28067; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:30:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:27:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27845; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:27:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Scanning directly to a Postscript file Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:31:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I just received an RFP that has as a requirement scanning various >documents >directly to a Postscript file... An odd req. for sure. If your client wants you to deliver the PS files "on the side" for some reason, you could process your TIFs to PS using Photshop automations. Scanning to PS directly would be an exercise in blowing out your drives. >So, does anyone know of a way to scan directly to a Postscript file? I >will >assume that the client would want the potentially resulting PDF file to >be in >fully searchable condition if it ever became reality. Are there any >benefits >(or logic) to doing this as opposed to going directly to PDF? What tools >are >available to handle this request? There's zero reason to do this - that I can think of before I've had my coffee, anyhow. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 18:51:00-GMT,2996;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07346 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:50:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15418; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:45:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:43:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15158; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:43:07 -0500 Message-ID: <19990810184610.24023.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:46:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John Posada Subject: RE: [PDF] Scanning directly to a Postscript file To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi. I used to be in the business of scanning documents. First, to scan directly to PS is first, get a REAL BIG drive...I'd probably use optical or DAT, since PS can be quite large. Second...are you talking about scanning the text via some type of OCR or are you talking about a bit-mapped image? If the later, make that an optical juke box. I don't know what kind of scanning system you are using or how many documents are being scanned, but I know that some industrial-strength scanners can scan an image and send it to printer. We used to do it for proofing, but we would only print every 10th or 20th image for QA. Select a PS driver for the printer. I'd probably create a little program that monitors a que and feeds the scanned images through the PS printer, naming them some type of seq number where you enter the beginning number and increment instructions. Most scanners will create an image on disk for each scanned document. Keep the name of the PS file the same as the image. > >I just received an RFP that has as a requirement > scanning various > >documents > >directly to a Postscript file... Obviously, based on one sentence outlining the requirements, it's tough to design a production systgem, but it can be done. === John Posada Merck Research Laboratories Sr Technical Writer jposada01@yahoo.com 732-594-0873 _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 19:04:29-GMT,2428;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07773 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:04:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17002; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:00:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:57:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16660; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:57:11 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1CE5@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Lines and other Artifacts using Acrobat 4.0 in Windows 95/98 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:54:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Has anyone else noticed the occasional weird lines and other screen artifacts appearing while using Acrobat 4 on a Windows computer? It's beginning to annoy me... I have Win95 here, and Win98 at home, and the problem seems to crop up on both machines. I've updated the video drivers on both machines to the latest and greatest (one's running an ATI Rage Pro card, the other is running a Diamond Viper 770 card). Could a plugin cause this kind of behavior? I have the latest version of Compose installed, and a handful of others. Any ideas? ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 19:12:09-GMT,2471;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07943 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:12:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17958; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:08:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:04:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17574; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:04:54 -0500 From: "Michael McDonald" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Lines and other Artifacts using Acrobat 4.0 in Windows 95/98 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:03:11 -0400 Message-ID: <000701bee362$fe29b940$3b73f7a5@nec> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1CE5@NT6> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've been experiencing the same thing, although it's been limited to PDFs that have been run through Capture 2.01. I've noticed it on both Mac & Windows with 4.0. Anybody else? Michael McDonald Pinehurst Tech. ----------------- Has anyone else noticed the occasional weird lines and other screen artifacts appearing while using Acrobat 4 on a Windows computer? It's beginning to annoy me... I have Win95 here, and Win98 at home, and the problem seems to crop up on both machines. I've updated the video drivers on both machines to the latest and greatest (one's running an ATI Rage Pro card, the other is running a Diamond Viper 770 card). ------------------ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 21:59:07-GMT,2417;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12756 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:59:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04599; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:56:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:51:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04104; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:51:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990810223452.007b08b0@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:34:52 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Using Acrobat as Helper Application Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I assume this is pretty much the same problem as Sandy Hov reported, except for my files are not on a Webserver: System Info: Windows 95, Netscape 4.5, Acrobat 4 is defined as helper application In Netscape, I open File START.PDF from a CD. Netscape copies the PDF file to Windows\Temp and opens the file. Now the file name displayed in the title bar is no longer START.PDF, but V0FGV9CR.pdf; None of the links work anymore because link paths are not defined relative to \Windows\Temp\V0FGV9CR.pdf but relative to START.PDF on the CD. Is this what they mean in the manual when the write on page 71: "When Acrobat works as a helper application, ... you cannot view embedded PDF documents" ? Does this mean that users have to use the plug-in to be able to follow the links of START.PDF ? Reinhard _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 23:57:40-GMT,2220;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15888 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:57:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14785; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:53:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:49:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14279; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:49:22 -0500 Message-ID: <02a901bee38a$f1a0ecc0$0b0d040a@ideaworks> From: "Robert Lema" To: References: <002001bee323$f290f7e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Subject: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:49:09 -0700 Organization: ideaworks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is this possible? I'd like visitors to be able to download, look at, and then SAVE a PDF file from a website I'm the """"guru"""" for. Am I nuts? I just realized my nutsiness is a separate issue. Can I do this? Thank you! -- Bob Lema "Human history is in essence a history of ideas." -- H.G. Wells Bob Lema's Ideaworks www.volcano.net/~ideaworks ideaworks@volcano.net 209/286-1220 _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 0:27:55-GMT,2810;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16557 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17637; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:24:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:22:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17341; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:22:11 -0500 Message-ID: <37B08ADA.7DAD@archangel.net> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:26:12 +0000 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? References: <002001bee323$f290f7e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <02a901bee38a$f1a0ecc0$0b0d040a@ideaworks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Robert Lema wrote: > Is this possible? I'd like visitors to be able to download, > look at, and then SAVE a PDF file from a website I'm > the """"guru"""" for. > > Am I nuts? > > I just realized my nutsiness is a separate issue. Hey, don't disparage nuttiness. It's a characteristic of natural selection and could be responsible for your eventual evolution. It's an attribute much praised in many cultures - particularly in computer sub-culture. > Can I do this? Why not? Although Acrobat Reader doesn't have a Save... dialog, it does download the file to disk so that you may view it again later. Do a search to locate the file. On the Mac, it gets dumped to the Desktop by default. Not sure where it ends up on a PC. Bytserving may alter this behaviour - unsure. Cheers, Shane -- Shane Steinman Project Head, dMACS Initiative Digital Magazine Advertising Canadian Specifications c/o ArchAngel Media Inc. 15 Kirkland Court, Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA L4C 9H4 Tel/Fax: (416) 410-3355 E-mail: shane@dMACS.org Website: www.dMACS.org _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 3:50:10-GMT,2030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20600 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:50:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02808; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:47:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:44:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02584; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:44:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:43:56 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? In-Reply-To: <02a901bee38a$f1a0ecc0$0b0d040a@ideaworks> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is this possible? I'd like visitors to be able to download, > look at, and then SAVE a PDF file from a website I'm > the """"guru"""" for. Acrobat 4 adds a Save PDF toolbar icon which saves the displayed PDF to disk. Otherwise, you can right-click on the HTML link to a PDF and "Save Target As..." (IE) or "Save Link As..." (Netscape) to save the PDF. The mouse procedure is slightly different for Macs. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 4:15:41-GMT,2246;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21116 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:15:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05016; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:12:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:09:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04660; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:09:54 -0500 Message-ID: <37B0C03B.4086@archangel.net> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:14:03 +0000 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ George Johnson wrote: > Acrobat 4 adds a Save PDF toolbar icon which saves the displayed PDF to > disk. Otherwise, you can right-click on the HTML link to a PDF and "Save > Target As..." (IE) or "Save Link As..." (Netscape) to save the PDF. The > mouse procedure is slightly different for Macs. Yep. With a Mac, you click and hold the link for two seconds and the option will appear. Shane -- Shane Steinman ArchAngel Media Inc. 15 Kirkland Court, Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA L4C 9H4 Tel/Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 5:40:14-GMT,3031;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22680 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:40:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11549; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:34:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:31:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11172; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:31:37 -0500 Message-ID: <37B0D362.EDC@archangel.net> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:35:49 +0000 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Canadian Industry Survey References: <002001bee323$f290f7e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <02a901bee38a$f1a0ecc0$0b0d040a@ideaworks> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi gang, This is it. Your last chance to participate in the Canadian digital ad survey - and receive a copy of the final results. We are starting to tabulate the responses and will be e-mailing the results to all participants just prior to the Seybold SF show. There are four surveys in all. Pick the one that suits you best... The Printer Survey (printers & prepress) The Agency Survey (advertisers and agencies/designers) The Publishers Survey (you guessed it... publishers) The Vendor Survey (people that sell stuff to the others) Questions on practices, file formats, proofing, etc. Yes, PDF is part of the survey. Our mission has a particular focus upon PDF/X standards. All of the surveys can be accessed from this address... http://www.dmacs.org/surveystart.html And no, you DON'T have to be Canadian to fill out a survey - or to get a copy of the results. Electrons don't seem to stop at the border, so there's a fairly strong chance that the data should be consistent. If not, that will be interesting, too. Best regards, Shane -- Shane Steinman Project Head, dMACS Initiative Digital Magazine Advertising Canadian Specifications c/o ArchAngel Media Inc. 15 Kirkland Court, Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA L4C 9H4 Tel/Fax: (416) 410-3355 E-mail: shane@dMACS.org Website: www.dMACS.org _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 5:59:54-GMT,3353;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA23096 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13286; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:56:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:54:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13161; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:54:21 -0500 From: "Lars Hřj" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:51:22 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Well, they can always save the file, when it is still a link, by right-clicking. But I guess you want them to have the option after they've seen how invaluable the pdf is...? Then perhaps a note that using Back brings them back to the link, where they can save the file? Kind regards Lars Hoej LARS HOEJ Informatik Baunestien 4 - DK-3460 Birkeroed - Denmark Tel: +45 4582 8500 - Fax: +45 4582 85 01 mailto:lars@lhi.dk - http://www.lhi.dk -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Robert Lema Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 1:49 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ ____________________________________________________________ ______ Is this possible? I'd like visitors to be able to download, look at, and then SAVE a PDF file from a website I'm the """"guru"""" for. Am I nuts? I just realized my nutsiness is a separate issue. Can I do this? Thank you! -- Bob Lema "Human history is in essence a history of ideas." -- H.G. Wells Bob Lema's Ideaworks www.volcano.net/~ideaworks ideaworks@volcano.net 209/286-1220 _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ____________________________________________________________ _ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 8:06:28-GMT,2034;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA25914 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 02:06:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17607; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:57:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:54:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA17406; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:54:37 -0500 Message-ID: <01BEE409.DDC69450@PC6837> From: Jessie Ambrosio To: "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" , "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:57:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA17401 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We are using Adobe Acrobat 3.01. By the way, i've heard that Acrobat 4 permits image editing on a PDF. Does anyone has experienced replacing graphics on a PDF using Acrobat 4? > Hi! Is it possible to insert and/or replace images on a PDF page? How? > Can i insert an image in PDF format? In Acrobat Exchange (3.x) or Acrobat (4.x): _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 9:07:44-GMT,2371;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27017 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 03:07:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26419; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:04:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:01:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26098; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:01:28 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <02a901bee38a$f1a0ecc0$0b0d040a@ideaworks> References: <002001bee323$f290f7e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:55:48 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? Cc: "Robert Lema" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bob, >Is this possible? I'd like visitors to be able to download, >look at, and then SAVE a PDF file from a website I'm >the """"guru"""" for. Sure, this is possible. Have your Windoze users right-click on the link and select the save this link point. On Mac, the users will have to press the mouse on the link and wait until the menu appears. If you want to make it absolutely foolproof, create a .zip archive, which will usually be downloaded anyway. >Am I nuts? Depends on your fat contents (hazelnuts are about 80% fat) ... or ask your neighbourhood. >I just realized my nutsiness is a separate issue. > >Can I do this? > >Thank you! > >-- Bob Lema _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 11:50:00-GMT,3397;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA29849 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 05:49:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05544; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:46:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:43:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05328; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:43:39 -0500 Message-ID: <002b01bee3ee$ba843260$1a04040a@ideaworks> From: "Robert Lema" To: References: <37B0C03B.4086@archangel.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] QOT: Open PDF from website and SAVE? Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:43:25 -0700 Organization: ideaworks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks very much for the assistance. I haven't downloaded Reader 4.0 myself yet. I'll see if my website guests will get the drift of what to do to save the file when they read about the click options. -- Bob Lema ============================================ "They have computers, and they may have other weapons of mass destruction." -- Janet Reno, US Attorney General, 02-27-98 ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Steinman To: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ George Johnson wrote: > Acrobat 4 adds a Save PDF toolbar icon which saves the displayed PDF to > disk. Otherwise, you can right-click on the HTML link to a PDF and "Save > Target As..." (IE) or "Save Link As..." (Netscape) to save the PDF. The > mouse procedure is slightly different for Macs. Yep. With a Mac, you click and hold the link for two seconds and the option will appear. Shane -- Shane Steinman ArchAngel Media Inc. 15 Kirkland Court, Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA L4C 9H4 Tel/Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 12:50:26-GMT,2125;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01060 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:50:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10736; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:43:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:42:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10559; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:42:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199908111242.HAA10528@everglades.binc.net> Date: 11 Aug 99 08:44:12 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA10555 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images >We are using Adobe Acrobat 3.01. By the way, i've heard that Acrobat 4 >permits image editing on a PDF. Does anyone has experienced replacing graphics on a >PDF using Acrobat 4? > Not without PitStop (a plug-in from Enfocus) it doesn't. Or am I unaware of a HUGE new feature I missed? Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 12:53:42-GMT,2050;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01139 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:53:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11331; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:49:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:48:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11177; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:48:04 -0500 Message-ID: <90E18121535FD211A9D800AA00C97F31911D95@walknt-2> From: David Taylor To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Sending PDF form to Microsoft Exchange Server???!! Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:47:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have created some PDF forms using Acrobat 4.0, and have come across a problem when trying to add a button which allows me to e-mail this form to a Microsoft Exchange Server. When the button is clicked an error message appears saying this document needs to be run from a Web Browser. Is there anyway to creating a send by e-mail button on a PDF form without having to run the document through a browser?? any help would be appreciated. David _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 13:28:53-GMT,3404;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01885 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:28:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15694; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:18:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:16:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15414; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:16:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199908111322.IAA22964@greatwest.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:20:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? From: "Joan Wagner" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My agency wants to put our internal forms in a pdf format and put them on an intranet site so they can be filled out online and printed and also saved and also sent electronically to clients. Can anyone help me understand what is involved in this? We are presently sending pdf all over the world (great format) for clients to view, we have sent PDF to various vendors to print composite ads only and we have linked web sites to pdf files, but the forms issue is another platform for us. We are Mac-based and use Quark predominantly. I would appreciate any info on this. ---------- >From: Shane Steinman >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? >Date: Tue, Aug 10, 1999, 7:14 PM > > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >George Johnson wrote: >> Acrobat 4 adds a Save PDF toolbar icon which saves the displayed PDF to >> disk. Otherwise, you can right-click on the HTML link to a PDF and "Save >> Target As..." (IE) or "Save Link As..." (Netscape) to save the PDF. The >> mouse procedure is slightly different for Macs. > >Yep. With a Mac, you click and hold the link for two seconds >and the option will appear. > >Shane > >-- >Shane Steinman >ArchAngel Media Inc. >15 Kirkland Court, Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA L4C 9H4 >Tel/Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net >_ >_____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ ><- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> ><- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >_____________________________________________________________ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 13:58:05-GMT,2344;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02487 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:57:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21001; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:52:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:50:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20540; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:50:29 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:49:44 +0100 Message-ID: <003701bee400$5eb7f680$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908111242.HAA10528@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Reply to: RE: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images > >We are using Adobe Acrobat 3.01. By the way, i've heard > that Acrobat 4 >permits image editing on a PDF. Does anyone > has experienced replacing graphics on a >PDF using Acrobat 4? > > > Not without PitStop (a plug-in from Enfocus) it doesn't. Or > am I unaware of a HUGE > new feature I missed? Acrobat 4.0 allows images to be edited in Photoshop. It also allows objects on the page to be moved or deleted. I believe a great many people have never explored all the tools in Acrobat 4.0... Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 14:09:04-GMT,2262;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02757 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:08:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22630; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:04:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:03:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22438; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:03:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199908111403.JAA22415@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:06:08 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: Re: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images In-Reply-To: <01BEE409.DDC69450@PC6837> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have edited images with Acrobat 4, however we also have photoshop 5. So when you edit the image in the PDF it opens up that image in Photoshop, I do not see why you could not just cut and paste a new image within Photoshop into this image (the one that opens in PS when you edit it in the pdf) that you wish to edit. So that would be sort of like replacing the image. I have not tried this but I dont see why this would not work. >We are using Adobe Acrobat 3.01. By the way, i've heard that Acrobat 4 permits image editing on a PDF. Does anyone has experienced replacing graphics on a PDF using Acrobat 4? > _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 14:21:18-GMT,4490;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03099 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:21:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24744; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:17:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:16:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24457; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:16:11 -0500 Message-ID: <31F33C123553D211A30300805FC7FA80273A9D@mnexcolm.colm.ncs.com> From: "Graffa, Cris R." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Sending PDF form to Microsoft Exchange Server???!! Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:16:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA24453 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi David, I was amused in a wry sort of way by your query. I’m researching the same exact process and have not come up with an answer yet. If you come across one, let me know. Here’s what I do know: 1) There is a ”mailto:” javascript that appears in the Acrobat javascript help PDF that came with Acrobat 4.0. 2) In order to do this you need the full blown version of Acrobat and not just the Reader. 3) Adobe will offer Exchange VPP. This is like a mini full blown Acrobat. My understanding is that it will cost US $39.99 (sorry, I don’t know the conversion into pounds). This will enable the user to send an email back with the FDF data. But I guess we’ll have to wait until it’s released to say for sure. Does anyone else have more information about VPP? Will the cost of VPP be the same for a purchase of 5000 licenses as compared to 20? 4) I’m hoping that the cost for the VPP application will be less than what some of the other vendors charge for filler applications for proprietary electronic forms applications (like Shana’s product). I’m looking for a solution where a PDF form can be emailed as an attachment and filled out by respondents using a variety of different email packages, those on servers, those on dial-up connections, etc. Some will be MAPI compliant, others will not. The PDF, just like in your case, will need to email the FDF data to a server and the data through ASP, CGI, PERL, etc., will need to populate a database. We have a client who has a large international base of employees that have e-mail, but no web access and we need a solution to get forms data from point A to point B. > ---------- > From: David Taylor > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 8:47 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Sending PDF form to Microsoft Exchange Server???!! > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I have created some PDF forms using Acrobat 4.0, and have come across a > problem when trying to add a button which allows me to e-mail this form to > a > Microsoft Exchange Server. When the button is clicked an error message > appears saying this document needs to be run from a Web Browser. Is there > anyway to creating a send by e-mail button on a PDF form without having to > run the document through a browser?? > > any help would be appreciated. > David > > _ > _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ > <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> > <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > _____________________________________________________________ > > _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 14:37:54-GMT,3215;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03512 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:37:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26879; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:28:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:27:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26540; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:27:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199908111427.HAA54723@ohmaha.inetworld.net> Date: 11 Aug 99 07:45:48 -0700 From: "B&B Fass-Holmes" Subject: [PDF] Distiller vs. PDF Writer To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA26530 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>Not necessarily true. PDF Writer does not have the ability to correctly process >>the kerning information with all characters. (i.e. - #(){}%* etc. and text flagged >>as a style (italic, bold) on the same line as normal text). >One important piece of information that I did omit is that if you are using _TrueType >fonts_, and you wish to print the PDF in hardcopy form, then it's best to use Distiller. >I spoke with Adobe at length about this (my notes/log # on that is eluding me at >the moment). When I discussed this with Adobe, they wouldn't even address it and >immediately said to try Distiller. I did, and the issue went away. I am using a PowerCenter Pro 210, running MacOS 8.6, LaserWriter 8 and PrintingLib v. 8.6.5 (the latest and greatest versions, to my knowledge), and Acrobat 3.01. I have a document in WordPerfect 3.5ep (the latest and greatest version) that contains the following typefaces: ITC Caslon 224 Book (PostScript); Parisan (PostScript); and Helvetica (TrueType; this is one of the 13 default typefaces that come with MacOS). The Caslon text is plain and includes some smart quotation marks. The Helvetica text is italics. I print to a PostScript file using LaserWriter 8 (the "embed all fonts" option is selected), then run the resultant .PS file through Distiller 3.01, and then open the resultant .PDF file in Exchange 3.01. The Helvetica text is *not* italics, but rather plain. The smart quotation marks are *missing.* Can anyone tell me what I'm doing incorrectly? Many thanks in advance. Barry F-H _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 14:54:35-GMT,3250;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03873 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:54:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31442; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:50:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:48:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31201; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:48:31 -0500 Message-ID: <37B1AA44.654DC367@tamu.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:52:20 -0700 From: Bill Watson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Extracting thumbnails Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0CBB1D094FD3430DA3CE864B" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0CBB1D094FD3430DA3CE864B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear list, I want to include a thumbnail of the covers of publications in a catalog which generates dynamically from a database. I have all the publications in pdf format w/ thumbnails and want to find a way to grab the front page (usually thumbnail #1) and convert/size it as a gif. This can be done via Photoshop but takes more time than I have to devote to it. Is there a program that will extract page 1/or thumbnail and convert it to gif or jpg in batch mode? I appreciate anny assistance/advice you can offer. -- Bill Watson (bs-watson@tamu.edu) - Communications Specialist Texas Agricultural Extension Service - 107I Reed McDonald Bldg. - TAMU College Station, Texas 77843-2112 - (409) 845-2807 (409) 862-1202 Agricultural Communications - http://agpublications.tamu.edu --------------0CBB1D094FD3430DA3CE864B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="bs-watson.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Bill Watson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bs-watson.vcf" begin:vcard n:Watson;Bill tel;fax:(409) 862-1202 tel;work:(409) 845-2807 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:agpublications.tamu.edu org:Texas Agricultural Extension Service;Agricultural Communications version:2.1 email;internet:bs-watson@tamu.edu title:Extension Communications Specialist adr;quoted-printable:;;107I Reed McDonald Bldg. TAMU=0D=0A;College Station;Texas;77843-2112;USA fn:Texas Agricultural Extension Service end:vcard --------------0CBB1D094FD3430DA3CE864B-- _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 15:08:50-GMT,2312;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04212 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:08:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01689; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:03:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:01:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01262; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:01:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199908111501.IAA51880@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:01:46 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Fonts Printing Incorrectly and Quotation Marks Missing From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: b2fh@inetworld.net Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Barry F-H wrote: > The Caslon text is plain and includes some smart quotation marks. The > Helvetica text is italics. I print to a PostScript file using LaserWriter 8 > (the "embed all fonts" option is selected), You can't embed a Base 14 font in Acrobat 3x. > then run the resultant .PS file through Distiller 3.01, and then open the resultant .PDF file in Exchange 3.01. Try upgrading Distiller to 3.02, it's free. http://www.adobe.com. Better yet, upgrade to 4x. 99 bucks. http://www.pdfzone.com. > The Helvetica text is *not* italics, but rather plain. The smart quotation > marks are *missing.* Hope this works. Good luck. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 15:08:51-GMT,2131;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04221 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:08:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01675; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:03:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:01:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01180; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:01:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199908111501.KAA01167@everglades.binc.net> Date: 11 Aug 99 11:03:21 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA01175 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images >Acrobat 4.0 allows images to be edited in Photoshop. >It also allows objects on the page to be moved or deleted. > >I believe a great many people have never explored >all the tools in Acrobat 4.0... > >Aandi How? By opening the PDF page in Photoshop right? Is there a direct edit in Acrobat? Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 15:08:53-GMT,3001;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04227 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01954; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:04:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:03:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01725; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:03:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199908111503.KAA01679@everglades.binc.net> Date: 11 Aug 99 11:04:53 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller vs. PDF Writer To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA01712 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] Distiller vs. PDF Writer >>>Not necessarily true. PDF Writer does not have the ability to correctly >>>process the kerning information with all characters. (i.e. - #(){}%* etc. and >>>text flagged as a style (italic, bold) on the same line as normal text). >>> >>One important piece of information that I did omit is that if you are >>using _TrueType fonts_, and you wish to print the PDF in hardcopy form, >>then it's best to use Distiller. >> >I have a document in WordPerfect 3.5ep (the latest and greatest version) >that contains the following typefaces: ITC Caslon 224 Book (PostScript); Parisan >(PostScript); and Helvetica (TrueType; this is one of the 13 default typefaces that >come with MacOS). The Caslon text is plain and includes some smart quotation >marks. The Helvetica text is italics. >The Helvetica text is *not* italics, but rather plain. The smart quotation >marks are *missing.* > >Can anyone tell me what I'm doing incorrectly? Are you using the "I Helvetica Oblique" or hitting the "Italic" button in Word? If it's the button, this may be your issue as you are not actually using the "Oblique" font. Try using the "I Helvetica Oblique" in Word and re-Distill. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 15:22:40-GMT,2224;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04575 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:22:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05475; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:18:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:17:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05026; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:17:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:17:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Boeri To: PDF-List Subject: [PDF] Disappearing Word PDFMaker Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I have used MS Word '97's PDFMaker (installed via the Acrobat 4 install) for months now. Today I tried using PDFMaker, and noticed: 1) the "Make (or Create) PDF" menu choice is missing from the File menu, and 2) when I tried using the Acrobat Icon within Word (that I think does the same thing) I received an error message: "PDFMaker cannot locate the Acrobat Distiller Printer Driver. Please re-install Acrobat 4.0." Distiller, however, works fine. I re-installed Acrobat 4 ("typical install," I believe) and this did not fix the problem. Anybody else have this problem with the "missing PDFMaker" and --if so-- how did you fix it? Thanks in advance. -Bob Boeri http://world.std.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 15:22:59-GMT,3226;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04588 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:22:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05613; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:19:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:18:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05292; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:18:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199908111518.IAA19100@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:18:40 -0700 Subject: [PDF] FW: Inserting/Replacing Image From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Zone Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ From: "C. Scott Miller" To: Acrobat Talk , PDF Zone Subject: Re: Inserting/Replacing Image Date: Tue, Aug 10, 1999, 8:02 AM > Hi! Is it possible to insert and/or replace images on a PDF page? How? > Can i insert an image in PDF format? In Acrobat Exchange (3.x) or Acrobat (4.x): You can insert a PDF into a PDF by using the Forms Tool to create a BUTTON field whose LAYOUT has an icon. This icon can be a PDF. What's nice about it is that the completed field can be copied, pasted, scaled, and used to initiate any number of ACTIONS. -------------- In Acrobat 4.x only: In many circumstances you can edit an image using the TOUCHUP OBJECT tool. Look at the Acrobat Guide under the HELP menu starting at page 280 for a complete rundown of how this tool works with Illustrator and Photoshop (5.x). Be sure to look at the editing options contained in the contextual menu for the tool. If you want to paste an image into a PDF file, you can save from Illustrator or Photoshop as a PDF format file and then select all, copy and paste into your PDF (again Acrobat 4 only). If you want to paste a .tif, .gif, .jpg,.pcx, or .bmp file onto your file, you can use the FILE/IMPORT/IMAGE command to create a PDF of it and then copy and paste it into your existing file. You should refer to the Acrobat Guide for details and requirements. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 15:24:25-GMT,2322;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04602 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:24:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05848; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:20:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:19:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05516; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:19:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:18:18 +0100 Message-ID: <003c01bee40c$be4cd780$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908111501.KAA01167@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Acrobat 4.0 allows images to be edited in Photoshop. > >It also allows objects on the page to be moved or deleted. > > > >I believe a great many people have never explored > >all the tools in Acrobat 4.0... > > > >Aandi > > How? By opening the PDF page in Photoshop right? Is there a direct > edit in Acrobat? Yes, there is, using the Touchup Object Tool, Photoshop 5.0 is started to edit the extracted image. Editing the whole page in Photoshop would be completely unacceptable in most cases, because the text would be rasterised. Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 15:29:38-GMT,3251;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04731 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:29:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07166; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:25:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:24:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06887; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:24:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199908111524.IAA22046@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:25:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We are using Adobe Acrobat 3.01. By the way, i've heard that Acrobat 4 > permits image editing on a PDF. Does anyone has experienced replacing > graphics on a PDF using Acrobat 4? > >> Hi! Is it possible to insert and/or replace images on a PDF page? How? >> Can i insert an image in PDF format? > > In Acrobat Exchange (3.x) or Acrobat (4.x): In Acrobat Exchange (3.x) or Acrobat (4.x): You can insert a PDF into a PDF by using the Forms Tool to create a BUTTON field whose LAYOUT has an icon. This icon can be a PDF. What's nice about it is that the completed field can be copied, pasted, scaled, and used to initiate any number of ACTIONS. -------------- In Acrobat 4.x only: In many circumstances you can edit an image using the TOUCHUP OBJECT tool. Look at the Acrobat Guide under the HELP menu starting at page 280 for a complete rundown of how this tool works with Illustrator and Photoshop (5.x). Be sure to look at the editing options contained in the contextual menu for the tool. If you want to paste an image into a PDF file, you can save from Illustrator or Photoshop as a PDF format file and then select all, copy and paste into your PDF (again Acrobat 4 only). If you want to paste a .tif, .gif, .jpg,.pcx, or .bmp file onto your file, you can use the FILE/IMPORT/IMAGE command to create a PDF of it and then copy and paste it into your existing file. You should refer to the Acrobat Guide for details and requirements. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com WHITE _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 15:39:46-GMT,2862;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04969 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:39:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08998; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:33:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:32:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08616; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:32:04 -0500 Message-ID: <815F8A19E28ED2119AE60008C7090B05051BE4@DEFREXC01> From: Patrick Enders To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Extracting thumbnails Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:26:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I believe through photoshop 5.0 you can use the automate batchmode function in the file menu to run a action which you can create to open a single page in a pdf and then script it to convert to gif and reduce file size. It allows you to choose where to put the finished file, at least on the mac side. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Bill Watson [mailto:bs-watson@tamu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 9:52 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Extracting thumbnails Dear list, I want to include a thumbnail of the covers of publications in a catalog which generates dynamically from a database. I have all the publications in pdf format w/ thumbnails and want to find a way to grab the front page (usually thumbnail #1) and convert/size it as a gif. This can be done via Photoshop but takes more time than I have to devote to it. Is there a program that will extract page 1/or thumbnail and convert it to gif or jpg in batch mode? I appreciate anny assistance/advice you can offer. -- Bill Watson (bs-watson@tamu.edu) - Communications Specialist Texas Agricultural Extension Service - 107I Reed McDonald Bldg. - TAMU College Station, Texas 77843-2112 - (409) 845-2807 (409) 862-1202 Agricultural Communications - http://agpublications.tamu.edu _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 15:41:48-GMT,2383;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05014 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:41:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10105; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:37:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:36:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09774; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:36:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199908111536.IAA59956@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:36:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> >Acrobat 4.0 allows images to be edited in Photoshop. >> >It also allows objects on the page to be moved or deleted. >> >> How? By opening the PDF page in Photoshop right? Is there a direct >> edit in Acrobat? > > Yes, there is, using the Touchup Object Tool, Photoshop 5.0 is started > to edit the extracted image. Editing the whole page in Photoshop > would be completely unacceptable in most cases, because the text > would be rasterised. > > Aandi On the Mac, you would use the tool to select the image. Then double-lick with the option key pressed and the image opens in Photoshop. Likewise, on Windoze, you would use the control key. When you save the changed Photoshop file, it updates your PDF. You also have to save the changes there, too. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 16:59:43-GMT,2834;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07005 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:59:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28041; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:55:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:53:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27814; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:53:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:53:50 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Sending PDF form to Microsoft Exchange Server???!! In-Reply-To: <31F33C123553D211A30300805FC7FA80273A9D@mnexcolm.colm.ncs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > 1) There is a "mailto:" javascript that appears in the Acrobat > javascript help PDF that came with Acrobat 4.0. There's also the mailDoc, mailMsg, and mailForm methods, but only with Acrobat 4 (full product or VPP). Digital Applications (www.digapp.com) also has a plug-in for Mac users which allows them to mail PDFs. > 3) Adobe will offer Exchange VPP. This is like a mini full blown > Acrobat. My understanding is that it will cost US $39.99 (sorry, I > don't know the conversion into pounds). This will enable the user to > send an email back with the FDF data. But I guess we'll have to wait > until it's released to say > for sure. Does anyone else have more information about VPP? Will the cost of > VPP be the same for a purchase of 5000 licenses as compared to 20? I just talked to someone at Adobe about this. For level 1 (10-499 licenses) the suggested price was $39. for level 2 (500-999) the suggested price was $29. I didn't ask about a possible level 3, but the price is likely lower than level 2. It was suggested that the resellers from whom you buy this may price it lower. Also, the rep said version 4 won't be available for several months. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 17:04:44-GMT,2376;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07171 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:04:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29185; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:01:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:00:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28835; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:00:44 -0500 Message-ID: <37B1AC28.85DAD431@adobe.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:00:24 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? References: <199908111322.IAA22964@greatwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ As already mentioned, if the client is running (full) Acrobat 4.0 (as opposed to the free Reader), they can simply use the new toolbar button to save the filled-out form to disk. > My agency wants to put our internal forms in a pdf format and put them on an > intranet site so they can be filled out online and printed and also saved > and also sent electronically to clients. Can anyone help me understand what > is involved in this? We are presently sending pdf all over the world (great > format) for clients to view, we have sent PDF to various vendors to print > composite ads only and we have linked web sites to pdf files, but the forms > issue is another platform for us. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 17:05:49-GMT,2482;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07180 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:05:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29607; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:03:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:02:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29299; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:02:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:02:02 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QOT (Quasi-Off-Topic): Open PDF from website and SAVE? In-Reply-To: <199908111322.IAA22964@greatwest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > My agency wants to put our internal forms in a pdf format and put them on an > intranet site so they can be filled out online and printed and also saved > and also sent electronically to clients. Can anyone help me understand what > is involved in this? In order for the filled-in forms to be saved, your users will need Acrobat Exchange, which is now just called Acrobat. In Acrobat 4 (Windows), there is a SendMail plug-in which allows one to e-mail a completed form or just the forms data. Digital Applications (www.digapp.com) has made available for free a similar plug-in for Mac users. You can also set up a CGI (or ASP, Cold Fusion, etc.) application on your server so that the forms can be submitted online and the data automatically entered into a database. More information can be found at http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/formsresources.html _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 17:50:08-GMT,2091;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08267 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:50:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06832; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:46:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:45:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06495; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:45:05 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:44:44 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Extracting thumbnails Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA06463 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There are two thumbnailer programs that I'm familiar with, that will probably do what you're looking for: Quicknailer1.7.1 -- which you can find at www.amug.org iView Multimedia -- which you can find at www.iView-multimedia.com They can also be found at the Tucows download sites. Both are shareware, both use a simple drag & drop interface, create thumbnail catalogs, and both are pretty inexpensive. Happy hunting, Jeff _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 22:18:04-GMT,1803;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14935 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:18:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21457; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:12:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:09:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21094; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:09:19 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990811170745.00b9ae20@prodatanet.com> X-Sender: brucelist@prodatanet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:09:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bruce Kessel Subject: [PDF] Batch Process/OCR existing PDFs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have several thousand PDF files that I want to OCR in Exchange 4.0. Is there a plugin or third party product to automate this process? _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 11-Aug-1999 23:36:29-GMT,2390;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16746 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:36:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28883; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:32:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:30:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28595; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:30:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Batch Process/OCR existing PDFs Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:35:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I have several thousand PDF files that I want to OCR in Exchange 4.0. Is > >there a plugin or third party product to automate this process? First of all... these are all image-only, bi-tonal (black and white) PDFs... right? And the resolution is AT LEAST 200 dpi... right? If not, forget it. Having said that - Exchange is not the way to do this for many reasons. I suppose you could automate the file open - capture - save, get next file routine somehow, and fight your way in production through all the crashes, exceptions, mis-rotated original pages, skewed pages, etc, etc. Or, you buy Acrobat Capture 2.01, and save yourself the brain-damage. Or, if it's a one-time need, get a service-bureau to do it. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 1:12:51-GMT,1707;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18597 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:12:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05332; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:08:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:07:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05265; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:07:17 -0500 From: tsequeira@symcorinc.ca X-Lotus-FromDomain: SYMCORINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: slgarcia@x-streem.com Message-ID: <852567CB.0004D97D.00@symnts1h.symcorinc.ca> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:04:13 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Sending PDF form to Microsoft Exchange Server???!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you go to www.x-streem.com, you might get some answers to your questions about data from PDF forms. Tino _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 1:32:03-GMT,3077;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18977 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07091; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:28:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:26:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06907; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:26:55 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990811202503.009ef960@prodatanet.com> X-Sender: brucelist@prodatanet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:26:34 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bruce Kessel Subject: RE: [PDF] Batch Process/OCR existing PDFs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does Capture 2.01 process multi-page DCX and DCF file formats (this file format is used by a fax server). ; At 04:35 PM 8/11/99 -0700, you wrote: >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > > >I have several thousand PDF files that I want to OCR in Exchange 4.0. Is > > > >there a plugin or third party product to automate this process? > >First of all... these are all image-only, bi-tonal (black and white) PDFs... >right? And the resolution is AT LEAST 200 dpi... right? If not, forget it. > >Having said that - Exchange is not the way to do this for many reasons. I >suppose you could automate the file open - capture - save, get next file >routine somehow, and fight your way in production through all the crashes, >exceptions, mis-rotated original pages, skewed pages, etc, etc. Or, you buy >Acrobat Capture 2.01, and save yourself the brain-damage. Or, if it's a >one-time need, get a service-bureau to do it. > >Duff Johnson >Document Solutions, Inc. >www.document-solutions.com >_ >_____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ ><- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> ><- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >_____________________________________________________________ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 2:36:32-GMT,2933;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20207 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:36:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13851; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:31:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:30:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13656; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:30:20 -0500 From: "Graham Stewart" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Lines and other Artifacts using Acrobat 4.0 in Windows 95/98 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:29:37 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990812023007Z464454-7256+2@bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I've been experiencing the same thing, although it's been limited to PDFs > that have been run through Capture 2.01. > > I've noticed it on both Mac & Windows with 4.0. > > Anybody else? > > ----------------- >> Has anyone else noticed the occasional weird lines and other screen >> artifacts appearing while using Acrobat 4 on a Windows computer? It's >> beginning to annoy me... Yes I'm getting horizontal white lines through captured PDFs (using image + hidden text). Before capturing, the PDFs look great; after capture, they have white lines running horizontally across the image. Position varies depending on zoom level; some pages are worse than others. It looks like something to do with the PDF display: on some images I get tiny back lines on the extreme right hand margin of the image; the white line occur at the same position. When Acrobat loads the page, it seems to do so in segments: the black (or white lines) show up at the beginning of each segment. They don't show up when the page is printed. The problem doesn't occur in Acrobat 3. System is NT4. Has anyone else seen this, or come up with a solution? Is it a "display bug" in Acrobat 4? Thanks ... -Graham Stewart Old Car Publications graham.stewart@utoronto.ca _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 7:24:52-GMT,1892;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA25989 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:24:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA02295; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:19:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:17:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA02155; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:17:09 -0500 X-Envelope-Sender-Is: ASSIST.GGR1@mchm.siemens.de (at relayer thoth.mch.sni.de) Message-ID: <947D923D163DD21185900060088F747123A053@mchp9ada.mch.sbs.de> From: ZT GG R1 ASSIST To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] how to copy bookmarks Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:17:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I got Acrobat 4.0. Having created a new bookmark I'd like to copy this bookmark several times into other bookmark folders of my bookmark-tree (in the same pdf document). Does anybody have a solution for my problem? Thanks in advance. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 8:01:46-GMT,2136;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26656 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04814; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:57:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:56:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04690; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:56:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Batch Process/OCR existing PDFs Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:00:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Does Capture 2.01 process multi-page DCX and DCF file formats (this file > >format is used by a fax server). No, but hopefully, you can convert them to multipage TIFF files somehow... Another problem you'll run into (after the file format issue) is the VERY poor resolution AND image quality of faxes. Most are 100 x 200 dpi, which is horrible. "Fine" quality faxes are 200 dpi - still pretty horrible, but often manageable, depending on how picky you want to be. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 9:03:54-GMT,2395;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27906 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:03:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08788; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:59:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:53:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08465; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:53:36 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567CB.0036033A.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:52:23 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] Using Acrobat as Helper Application Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Reinhard, Is this what they mean in the manual when the write on page 71: "When Acrobat works as a helper application, ... you cannot view embedded PDF documents" ? I guess embedded PDFs are a new feature in PDF 1.3 (Acrobat 4) where you can display PDFs in PDFs. _Not_ PDF-Links from one PDF to another. But maybe I am wrong .... Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 9:22:31-GMT,2866;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28284 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:22:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09867; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:13:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:07:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09426; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:07:55 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: Antwort: [PDF] Using Acrobat as Helper Application Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:07:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bee4a2$13d03680$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <412567CB.0036033A.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is this what they mean in the manual when the > write on page 71: "When Acrobat works as a helper > application, ... you cannot view embedded PDF documents" ? > I guess embedded PDFs are a new feature in PDF 1.3 (Acrobat 4) > where you can display PDFs in PDFs. _Not_ PDF-Links from one > PDF to another. But maybe I am wrong .... This is referring to the HTML feature which allows the tag to be used to show an object within a page, in this case a PDF file. It is not really recommended, since there are major differences between how IE and Netscape handle embedded PDFs. The original problem suggested that the submittor was trying to follow links between PDFs, but was not using the plug-in to display the PDF. This will not work if Acrobat is a helper (that is, if the PDF is displayed in Acrobat's own window) and cannot work. This is because when any helper is used, the file is first downloaded to disk, then opened in the helper. The helper has no way to know the original URL - or even that the file originally came from the internet. Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 9:37:55-GMT,2063;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28601 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:37:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10720; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:27:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:26:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10595; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:26:18 -0500 Message-ID: <90E18121535FD211A9D800AA00C97F31911D99@walknt-2> From: David Taylor To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Send Mail Plug-ins??? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:25:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, Thanks to Cris for your help with sending a PDF form via e-mail without a web browser. I used the mailto: command in the submit form action. When I clicked upon send, the error message still appeared saying you need to be running inside a web browser. Upon consulting the manuals 'again', I find out that I need to be using a 'send mail plug-in', I've looked for this on the acrobat 4.0 CD and also on adobe's website. Where can this plug-in be found?? thanks David _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 9:51:25-GMT,2429;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28893 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:51:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12094; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:47:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:46:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11960; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:46:25 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Send Mail Plug-ins??? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:45:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bee4a7$75454d60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <90E18121535FD211A9D800AA00C97F31911D99@walknt-2> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Thanks to Cris for your help with sending a PDF form > via e-mail > without a web browser. I used the mailto: command in the > submit form action. > When I clicked upon send, the error message still appeared > saying you need > to be running inside a web browser. Upon consulting the > manuals 'again', I > find out that I need to be using a 'send mail plug-in', I've > looked for this > on the acrobat 4.0 CD and also on adobe's website. > > Where can this plug-in be found?? This plug-in is included with the full Acrobat 4.0 package for Windows only. It is not included with the free Reader, and you cannot distribute it. Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 10:27:04-GMT,1975;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29659 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:27:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14159; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:18:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:16:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14011; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:16:44 -0500 Message-ID: <90E18121535FD211A9D800AA00C97F31911D9A@walknt-2> From: David Taylor To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Send Mail Plug-ins??? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:16:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, Does anyone know when this plug-in will be available on the Mac. I have the full version of Acrobat 4.0. Thanks David ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ This plug-in is included with the full Acrobat 4.0 package for Windows only. It is not included with the free Reader, and you cannot distribute it. Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 10:28:52-GMT,3126;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29679 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:28:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14701; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:25:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:24:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14596; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:23:59 -0500 Message-ID: <37B2696A.3F5A@archangel.net> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 06:27:57 +0000 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Send Mail Plug-ins??? References: <90E18121535FD211A9D800AA00C97F31911D99@walknt-2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ David Taylor wrote: > Thanks to Cris for your help with sending a PDF form via e-mail > without a web browser. I used the mailto: command in the submit form action. > When I clicked upon send, the error message still appeared saying you need > to be running inside a web browser. Upon consulting the manuals 'again', I > find out that I need to be using a 'send mail plug-in', I've looked for this > on the acrobat 4.0 CD and also on adobe's website. > > Where can this plug-in be found?? As Aandi indicated, it can't. You could have someone write a CGI script to be placed on a web server somewhere. To keep this generic to all PDFs that you generate, you would be required to name all submission fields the same way in each of the PDFs. A separate field could be assigned to enter the destination address for the info, or that address could reside within the script if it will always remain the same. The submit action would Post to the location of the CGI. In this way, the sendmail function is relegated to a web server that could execute its own sendmail routines or deliver the package to a mail server that does. Granted, it's not an easy answer. Best of luck, Shane -- Shane Steinman Project Head, dMACS Initiative Digital Magazine Advertising Canadian Specifications c/o ArchAngel Media Inc. 15 Kirkland Court, Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA L4C 9H4 Tel/Fax: (416) 410-3355 E-mail: shane@dMACS.org Website: www.dMACS.org _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 10:59:55-GMT,2449;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA00253 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16276; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:49:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:48:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16215; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:48:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars_H=F8j?= To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Send Mail Plug-ins??? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:45:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Check the File menu - it should appear as 'Send Mail' just below 'Export' Kind regards Lars LARS HOEJ Informatik Baunestien 4 - DK-3460 Birkeroed - Denmark Tel: +45 4582 8500 - Fax: +45 4582 85 01 mailto:lars@lhi.dk - http://www.lhi.dk -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of David Taylor Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 12:16 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Send Mail Plug-ins??? The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, Does anyone know when this plug-in will be available on the Mac. I have the full version of Acrobat 4.0. Thanks David ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 11:53:24-GMT,2263;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01317 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 05:53:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20215; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 06:44:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 06:42:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20065; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 06:42:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <90E18121535FD211A9D800AA00C97F31911D99@walknt-2> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:42:40 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] Send Mail Plug-ins??? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Does anyone know when this plug-in will be available on the Mac. I >have the full version of Acrobat 4.0. David, We built a plug-in called "MailPDF" for the Macintosh PowerPC. It is available for free on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. MailPDF will add a "Send Mail" menu item to the Acrobat file menu. Choosing the menu item will automatically open your default email application, create a new massage and attach the currently open PDF file to the email. MailPDF works with Acrobat 3 and 4. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 13:58:14-GMT,2146;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03860 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:58:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31225; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:50:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:48:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31057; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:48:17 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6404A8A411@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 and Plug-Ins Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:48:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDF Team, Can anyone provide update information on all the plug-ins I've previously purchased for Acrobat 3 and how they are affected by the new release? Specifically, products like Compose, Gemini, PitStop, Aerial... Can anyone explain what changes should I be aware of, if I must purchase a new upgrade to use w/Acrobat 4 and any other pertinent info? I don't believe I've seen this covered yet and I'm wondering what everyone else is doing. Thanks in advance for your feedback. Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com 630-224-6890 _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 14:09:17-GMT,2030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04115 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:09:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00216; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:02:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:01:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32683; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:01:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <90E18121535FD211A9D800AA00C97F31911D99@walknt-2> References: <90E18121535FD211A9D800AA00C97F31911D99@walknt-2> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:05:01 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Send Mail Plug-ins??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Where can this plug-in be found?? Like more than 300 others, you can find it listed in our PDF Tools database; in this case, it's one of the most recently added, a list which can always be found at: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp rgds ~ Kurt ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 14:09:17-GMT,1830;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04114 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:09:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00477; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:04:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:03:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00278; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:03:03 -0500 Message-ID: <005a01bee4cc$62a081a0$39ec5acf@laptop> From: "ron" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 and Plug-Ins Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:10:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --Speaking of plugins- Is there one that will not only count the pages of a document, but the number of bookmarks and links as well? TIA,, Ron Culp TGIASO, Inc _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 14:13:14-GMT,2253;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04226 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:13:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01129; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:09:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:08:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00966; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:08:25 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 and Plug-Ins Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:07:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bee4cc$08ffdd80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6404A8A411@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Specifically, products like Compose, Gemini, PitStop, Aerial... > > Can anyone explain what changes should I be aware of, if I > must purchase a > new upgrade to use w/Acrobat 4 and any other pertinent info? Each one is potentially different. It may work, or require a free upgrade, or a chargeable one. Check the maker's site for each one. The Quite plug-ins should be upgraded to version 1.2, which can be downloaded free by customers. Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 14:17:24-GMT,2237;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04319 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:17:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01802; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:13:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:12:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01597; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:12:08 -0500 Message-ID: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B5938028A53@KOMMUNIKATION> From: Stenitzer Michael To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:29:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ hi, i had a very strange effect with acrobat 4. i'm producing version 3 compatible pdfs. after creation the have the 1.2 format as expected. as soon i change some options in the file/document info/open... (eg. changing open documents with or w/o bookmarks, etc) and finaly saving the PDF the version has changed to 1.3 ;-( this is really annoying! does anybody know about this problem. does anybody know about a workaround (yes, i know about the possibility to set these options in MS word, but sometimes i produce pdfs from other apps and i have to merge these files afterwards. so i have to set the "open" options. michael _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 14:31:01-GMT,2212;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04626 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:30:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03515; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:27:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:26:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03334; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:26:22 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:25:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bee4ce$907f2480$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B5938028A53@KOMMUNIKATION> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > i had a very strange effect with acrobat 4. > > i'm producing version 3 compatible pdfs. after creation the > have the 1.2 > format as expected. as soon i change some options in the file/document > info/open... (eg. changing open documents with or w/o > bookmarks, etc) and > finaly saving the PDF the version has changed to 1.3 ;-( This is not a bug, nor should it be a problem. Why is it annoying? Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 14:33:46-GMT,2340;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04726 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:33:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03739; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:30:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:28:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03625; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:28:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199908121428.HAA22185@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:28:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: stenitzer@eva.wsr.ac.at Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > i'm producing version 3 compatible pdfs. after creation the have the 1.2 > format as expected. as soon i change some options in the file/document > info/open... (eg. changing open documents with or w/o bookmarks, etc) and > finaly saving the PDF the version has changed to 1.3 ;-( I'd like Aandi to confirm this, but I believe the behaviour is that the 1.2 will change to 1.3 when resaved in Acrobat 4, but that unless you have modified the doc with 4x features, it still should be 3x compatible. This can cause great confusion, if you are trying to determine compatibility based on the 1.2/1.3 reference. As a consultant, and technician, this would annoy me greatly. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 14:43:04-GMT,2103;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04934 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:43:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04724; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:38:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:37:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04596; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:37:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199908121437.HAA23768@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:37:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 and Plug-Ins From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: kfarrell@lucent.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Specifically, products like Compose, Gemini, PitStop, Aerial... > > Can anyone explain what changes should I be aware of, if I must purchase a > new upgrade to use w/Acrobat 4 and any other pertinent info? If you are using Acrobat 4, you most definitely should upgrade to PitStop 4. Lots of wonderful new features, pre-flight is now built in, etc. As far as the others go, your best bet is to check out the information on the developers' web sites. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 14:43:25-GMT,2480;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04946 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:43:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04843; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:39:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:38:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04697; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:38:29 -0500 Message-ID: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B5938028A54@KOMMUNIKATION> From: Stenitzer Michael To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: "'Rich Sprague'" Subject: RE: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:37:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: Rich Sprague [mailto:richsprague@inficad.com] > > > i'm producing version 3 compatible pdfs. after creation > the have the 1.2 > > format as expected. as soon i change some options in the > file/document > > info/open... (eg. changing open documents with or w/o > bookmarks, etc) and > > finaly saving the PDF the version has changed to 1.3 ;-( > > I'd like Aandi to confirm this, but I believe the behaviour > is that the 1.2 > will change to 1.3 when resaved in Acrobat 4, but that > unless you have > modified the doc with 4x features, it still should be 3x compatible. do i understand you right: everytime i modify a pdf in acrobat 4 version 1.2 changes to version 1.3. in this case acrobat 4 is just USELESS for me, as i can NOT expect the visitors of our website to have acrobat reader 4. michael _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 15:03:58-GMT,2722;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05427 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:03:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06955; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:59:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:55:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06582; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:55:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199908121455.HAA27061@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:55:29 -0700 Subject: [PDF] VERSION NUMBER CHANGES 1.2>1.3 From: "Rich Sprague" To: Stenitzer Michael CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > I'd like Aandi to confirm this, but I believe the behaviour > > is that the 1.2 will change to 1.3 when resaved in Acrobat 4, but that > > unless you have modified the doc with 4x features, it still should be 3x > > compatible. > > do i understand you right: everytime i modify a pdf in acrobat 4 version 1.2 > changes to version 1.3. > in this case acrobat 4 is just USELESS for me, as i can NOT expect the > visitors of our website to have acrobat reader 4. > > michael Let's try this again, Michael. And you could test this for yourself to see how it works. If you make a 3x compatible PDF, it will say 1.2. If you open it in Acrobat 4 and modify it, the newly saved version will say 1.3. It *still* is 3x compatible, unless you have used 4x features in your file modification. The confusion will lie down the line when it is opened, and you (or someone else) won't be able to tell which compatibility was selected when it was created. However, if the file works with Reader 3 or Exchange 3x, then I guess you shouldn't worry. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 15:18:22-GMT,2230;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05813 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:18:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08634; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:12:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:10:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08183; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:10:12 -0500 Message-ID: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B5938028A55@KOMMUNIKATION> From: Stenitzer Michael To: "'Rich Sprague'" Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: VERSION NUMBER CHANGES 1.2>1.3 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:09:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: Rich Sprague [mailto:richsprague@inficad.com] > > > If you make a 3x compatible PDF, it will say 1.2. If you > open it in Acrobat > 4 and modify it, the newly saved version will say 1.3. It > *still* is 3x > compatible, unless you have used 4x features in your file > modification. well, e.g. merging to version 1.2 PDFs will not introduce any version 4 features. > However, if the file works with Reader 3 or Exchange 3x, > then I guess you > shouldn't worry. unfortunately it does no work properly: fonts are floating, spaces are missed ;-( > > r|i|c|h > _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 15:38:14-GMT,2241;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06334 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:38:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11298; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:34:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:32:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11115; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:32:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:32:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01bee4d7$d96aa8a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B5938028A54@KOMMUNIKATION> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > do i understand you right: everytime i modify a pdf in > acrobat 4 version 1.2 > changes to version 1.3. > in this case acrobat 4 is just USELESS for me, as i can NOT expect the > visitors of our website to have acrobat reader 4. By no means. The version number is just that, a version number. Acrobat 3.0 does not refuse to open a file marked as version 1.3. It will only complain if it finds features it does not understand. Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 15:52:04-GMT,1790;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06696 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:52:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12929; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:48:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:46:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12726; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:46:56 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990812104454.00a24cc0@prodatanet.com> X-Sender: brucelist@prodatanet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:46:32 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bruce Kessel Subject: [PDF] Contact info for PCC Artwork Solutions In-Reply-To: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B5938028A55@KOMMUNIKATION> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone have contact information (web, phone, or fax) for PCC Artwork Solutions? Thanks! _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 15:52:32-GMT,3840;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06720 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:52:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12930; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:48:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:46:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12698; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:46:51 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990812154649.0097cbe0@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:46:49 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I believe that this IS a bug. In the Portable Document Reference Manual, Version 1.3, pages 471-472 (Appendix G), there's a detailed discussion of the circumstances under which the major and minor PDF version numbers should be changed by an application, and the subsequent effects on and interpretations by lower-level Readers. Specifically, quoting the top of page 472: "If PDF changes in a way that current viewers are unlikely to detect, the version number need not change." [Please, I know that there's a difference between "...need not change." and "...should not change.", but I think the intent of the Specification is very clear in this area when you read the entire context of the above quote.] The fact that Acrobat 4 always saves PDFs with the "1.3" version, even when no Acrobat 4-specific (PDF 1.3) features are present in the document, makes it extremely difficult to later determine if Acrobat 3 Readers (PDF 1.2) will encounter problems. The only way to absolutely test for this condition is to view every page of every document with the down-level Reader -- obviously not a practical solution for anyone dealing with large numbers of pages. For example, one of my publications has over 150,000 pages, which change regularly throughout each year. It's unacceptable to have to examine each page only to determine whether or not Acrobat 3 Readers will have a problem viewing it. Now, I know that I don't _deliberately_ introduce any PDF 1.3 elements into these documents, but such things can happen by accident! Acrobat 4's insistence on setting the PDF version to 1.3 is more than "annoying" -- it's downright misleading and counterproductive. This should be fixed in the next release, so that Acrobat conforms to the Specification. Tom Thiersch At 03:25 PM 8/12/99 +0100, you wrote: > >> i had a very strange effect with acrobat 4. >> >> i'm producing version 3 compatible pdfs. after creation the >> have the 1.2 >> format as expected. as soon i change some options in the file/document >> info/open... (eg. changing open documents with or w/o >> bookmarks, etc) and >> finaly saving the PDF the version has changed to 1.3 ;-( > >This is not a bug, nor should it be a problem. >Why is it annoying? > >Aandi >_ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 15:56:28-GMT,2169;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06809 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:56:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13337; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:51:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:50:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13099; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:50:28 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990812104641.00a29b00@prodatanet.com> X-Sender: brucelist@prodatanet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:50:17 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bruce Kessel Subject: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF In-Reply-To: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B5938028A55@KOMMUNIKATION> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Are PMS colors maintained in PDF or does everything get converted to process color. We are preparing to send PDF files to a printing house (as part of a CTP process). Some pages are process and some are black and a PMS color. Is it possible to send PMS pages within PDF files or is the PMS color simply changed to process. If all PMS or spot colors are converted to process that seems like that will greatly increase our printing costs. We are using Acrobat 4.0 Any help is appreciated. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 16:06:07-GMT,2612;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07110 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:06:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14682; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:01:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:59:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14338; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:59:29 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:53:38 -0600 From: "Hagar, Laura M" Subject: RE: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Andi, We have created some files using Acrobat 4.0 and can use them just fine with Reader 3.0 and Exchange 3.0. Is there any need for us to be concerned prior to releasing an entire CD to our people with over 300 documents on it--some of which are created using Exchange 3.0 and some with Acrobat 4.0? (With all the best wrap going on just now about Reader 4.0, we refuse to move everyone to it. That means that all of our people are running Reader 3.0.) Thanks Laura Hagar ________ > > do i understand you right: everytime i modify a pdf in > > acrobat 4 version 1.2 > > changes to version 1.3. > > in this case acrobat 4 is just USELESS for me, as i can NOT expect the > > visitors of our website to have acrobat reader 4. > > By no means. > > The version number is just that, a version number. > > Acrobat 3.0 does not refuse to open a file marked as version > 1.3. It will only complain if it finds features it does not > understand. > > Aandi > _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 16:08:42-GMT,2304;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07161 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:08:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14746; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:01:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:00:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14510; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:00:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199908121600.JAA41703@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:00:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: brucelist@prodatanet.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Are PMS colors maintained in PDF or does everything get converted to > process color. There's a check box in the JOB OPTIONS > ADVANCED tab that says something about prologue ps/epilogue ps. Unless there are other settings issues, you choose the PRESS OPTIMIZED settings, check this box, and save as PRESS PE, or another name you can remember. This simple little feat will tell Distiller to retain the spot color information from your ps file. Also, make sure your service provider knows what they are doing. Many think that with Acrobat 4 you can separate a file. You either need an appropriate rip, or a plug-in like Crackerjack or PDF Output Pro. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 16:16:08-GMT,2481;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07397 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:16:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16005; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:11:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:10:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15759; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:10:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Boeri To: PDF-List Subject: [PDF] More PDFMaker questions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, Even though I have not yet worked out my PDFMaker problem at work, I now have two PDFMaker questions/problems on my home installation (Win95, plenty of memory an disk). 1) I am noticing a great deal of instability after running PDFMaker in MS Word (Office 97). That is, my PC frequently crashes/hangs after completing a PDFMAKER session. Is this just me or are others experiencing the same thing? 2) I cannot get URLs to be transformed to links by PDFMaker. If the URL is simply a text string in a document, it remains a text string. I tried converting a URL within an MS Word document to an Internet link (that is, in the original Word document clicking on the link would get you to the URL). PDFMAKing *this* 4 page document sent PDFMaker into hyperspace. I cancelled it after it got up to around page 525 and counting. How do you get PDFMaker to transform URLs to active URL links in a PDF file? Thanks. -Bob Boeri http://world.std.com/~bboeri _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 16:27:57-GMT,3692;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07765 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:27:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16805; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:18:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:17:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16678; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:17:30 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@192.168.0.10 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:05:08 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: RE: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 Cc: laura.m.hagar@lmco.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Laura, To address your concerns. No version of Exchange will change the file format in such a way to make it unreadable to an older version of Exchange. The types of things that do cause compatability problems are all associated with the imaging operators; and the imaging constructs in PDF are essentially imutable (cannot be changed). The Touch-Up tool allows you to make some changes, but not any that would make the file unreadable in v3.x. You can add new annotation types (specific to v4.x), certain FORM fields, highlights etc and these may not display correctly in v3.x but they will NOT affect what the user sees on the page and the user will always be able to open the document; the original page contents is not changed. There was a problem moving from v2.x to v3.x as Adobe had to stop using LZW compression and to switch to Flate. This meant that there was no way that v2.x Readers could open files that were created in Distiller 3.x with Flate compression! This kind of serious backwards compatability issue does not exist in v4.0. Simple solution? Ensure that you Distill all files in v3.x of Distiller and you should have no problems as long as you don't go and add Annotation types that are new in v4.x. I v a n ... At 9:53 AM -0600 8/12/99, Hagar, Laura M wrote: >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Andi, >We have created some files using Acrobat 4.0 and can use them just fine with >Reader 3.0 and Exchange 3.0. >Is there any need for us to be concerned prior to releasing an entire CD to >our people with over 300 documents on it--some of which are created using >Exchange 3.0 and some with Acrobat 4.0? >(With all the best wrap going on just now about Reader 4.0, we refuse to >move everyone to it. That means that all of our people are running Reader >3.0.) >Thanks >Laura Hagar Ivan Markovic VLTEC Director of Information Technology Direct: 01 2402544 Mobile: 087 2939256 Fax: 01 2402501 _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 16:42:40-GMT,3120;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08148 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:42:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19049; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:38:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:37:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18908; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:37:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:39:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Script: \\filterscript.mml Message-Id: <16365843267275@acquiredknowledge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Actually, maintaining spot colors by using prologue/epilogue is only necessary if you are using Distiller 3.0. Distiller 4.0 always maintains spot colors. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge, Inc. ---------- >From: "Rich Sprague" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF >Date: Thu, Aug 12, 1999, 9:00 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > >> Are PMS colors maintained in PDF or does everything get converted to >> process color. > > There's a check box in the JOB OPTIONS > ADVANCED tab that says something > about prologue ps/epilogue ps. > > Unless there are other settings issues, you choose the PRESS OPTIMIZED > settings, check this box, and save as PRESS PE, or another name you can > remember. > > This simple little feat will tell Distiller to retain the spot color > information from your ps file. > > Also, make sure your service provider knows what they are doing. Many think > that with Acrobat 4 you can separate a file. You either need an appropriate > rip, or a plug-in like Crackerjack or PDF Output Pro. > > r|i|c|h > _ > _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ > <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> > <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > _____________________________________________________________ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 17:15:59-GMT,2465;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09021 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:15:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22525; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:12:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:09:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22123; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:09:41 -0500 X-Sender: dan@pinc.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:43:04 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: The Malahat Group - Dan Bashaw Subject: [PDF] Re: Lines and other Artifacts using Acrobat 4.0 in Windows 95/98 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Has anyone else noticed the occasional weird lines and other screen >artifacts appearing while using Acrobat 4 on a Windows computer? I have run into a similar problem - specifically vertical line artifacts appearing to the right of bitmap images on printouts of PDF files from Windows printers. Experimenting with different Distiller job option settings does not alter the problem. This has occurred both with documents originating in MS Word on Windows and Xpress on Macintosh, and has been identified as a problem on jobs that have been given to me by clients for consultation, so it is not associated with some detail of my workstation setup. Any ideas? I've found no mention of this on Adobe's tech support forum. __________________________________________ The Malahat Group/Palmer-Jarvis DDB 1002 Wharf Street, Victoria, B.C. Canada V8W 1T4 Tel: 250-388-4575, Fax: 250-388-4042 _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 17:17:43-GMT,1899;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09053 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22745; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:13:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:12:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22565; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:12:35 -0500 Message-ID: <37B30075.B6A02DB3@adobe.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:12:21 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Send Mail Plug-ins??? References: <000201bee4a7$75454d60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi Inston wrote: > This plug-in is included with the full Acrobat 4.0 package > for Windows only. The Mac version will soon be available with 4.05. > It is not included with the free Reader, and you cannot > distribute it. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 20:39:04-GMT,2323;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13745 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:38:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10010; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:24:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:21:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09591; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:21:41 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:19:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bee500$331dbc20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Andi, > We have created some files using Acrobat 4.0 and can use them > just fine with > Reader 3.0 and Exchange 3.0. > Is there any need for us to be concerned prior to releasing > an entire CD to > our people with over 300 documents on it--some of which are > created using > Exchange 3.0 and some with Acrobat 4.0? I would suggest testing each METHOD - not each file, but each kind of file. Mostly, if you use Distiller 4.0 in 3.0 compatibility mode, keeping colours unchanged, you will be fine. Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 20:41:17-GMT,1859;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13832 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:41:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11433; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:38:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:37:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11324; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:37:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199908122037.PAA11319@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:40:34 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] qtvr - windows In-Reply-To: <000001bee500$331dbc20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, can anyone give me some direction on where I could find some information on how to create a qtvr on the windows platform? Thanks _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 20:41:27-GMT,3569;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13838 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:41:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11365; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:37:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:36:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11156; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:36:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01bee502$679d2600$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Disappearing Word PDFMaker Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:36:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA11151 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I encountered a prob where Acrobat 4 was installed then reinstalled for whatever reason and although the PDFMaker icon was in Word, it didn't work. What I did was uninstall it, remove Win95 registry entries pertaining to Acrobat, reboot, then reinstall and it was fine after that. Kim Lawrence Graphics and Publishing Analyst City of Guelph ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Boeri To: PDF-List Sent: August 11, 1999 11:17 AM Subject: [PDF] Disappearing Word PDFMaker | | The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ | __________________________________________________________________ | | Hi all, | I have used MS Word '97's PDFMaker (installed via the Acrobat 4 | install) for months now. Today I tried | using PDFMaker, and noticed: | | 1) the "Make (or Create) PDF" menu choice is missing from the File menu, | and | 2) when I tried using the Acrobat Icon within Word (that I think does the | same thing) I received an error message: "PDFMaker cannot locate the | Acrobat Distiller Printer Driver. Please re-install Acrobat 4.0." | | Distiller, however, works fine. | I re-installed Acrobat 4 ("typical install," I believe) and this did not | fix the problem. | | Anybody else have this problem with the "missing PDFMaker" and --if so-- | how did you fix it? | | Thanks in advance. | | -Bob Boeri | http://world.std.com | | | _ | _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ | <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> | <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> | _____________________________________________________________ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 20:44:25-GMT,3776;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13903 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:44:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11766; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:41:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:40:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11557; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:40:07 -0500 Message-ID: <001501bee502$e2a4d0a0$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] More PDFMaker questions Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:40:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA11546 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you select the Distiller option of PDFMaker your links should work. It's worked for us, anyway. And yes ... we've experienced the same instability you refer to on occasion. Hard to troubleshoot when it just happens periodically. Kim Lawrence Graphics and Publishing Analyst City of Guelph ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Boeri To: PDF-List Sent: August 12, 1999 12:10 PM Subject: [PDF] More PDFMaker questions | | The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ | __________________________________________________________________ | | Hi all, | Even though I have not yet worked out my PDFMaker problem at work, I now | have two PDFMaker questions/problems on my home installation (Win95, | plenty of memory an disk). | | 1) I am noticing a great deal of instability after running PDFMaker in MS | Word (Office 97). That is, my PC frequently crashes/hangs after completing | a PDFMAKER session. Is this just me or are others experiencing the same | thing? | | 2) I cannot get URLs to be transformed to links by PDFMaker. If the URL is | simply a text string in a document, it remains a text string. I tried | converting a URL within an MS Word document to an Internet link (that is, | in the original Word document clicking on the link would get you to the | URL). PDFMAKing *this* 4 page document sent PDFMaker into hyperspace. I | cancelled it after it got up to around page 525 and counting. | | How do you get PDFMaker to transform URLs to active URL links in a PDF | file? | | Thanks. | | -Bob Boeri | http://world.std.com/~bboeri | | _ | _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ | <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> | <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> | _____________________________________________________________ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 21:19:14-GMT,4483;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14870 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:19:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15427; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:11:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:09:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15187; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:09:55 -0500 Message-ID: <19990812210927.75079.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.229.148.25] From: "Tobin Baker" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Using Acrobat w/Automation in VBA Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:09:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm trying to use Acrobat 4.0 as an Automation server with Microsoft Access. When I installed Acrobat, the Acrobat type library (acrobat.tlb) showed up as an available reference in my project, but when I set references to it, it was marked "MISSING". I tried moving it to the System folder (the original location was Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 4.0\Acrobat) and this seems to have solved the problem, but now when I try to instantiate the application in my code I get the runtime error "ActiveX component can't create object". It's not a registration issue, is it? Everything that I think needs to be registered (FdfAcX.dll, FdfTk.dll, and pdf.ocx) is already registered in the System folder. Here's the code I have so far and where the error occurs (to clarify things, I have a combo box on a form where a user can select one of several PDF forms, which are then filled in with information from the current record, which comes via an FDF file associated with that record). Private Sub cboShowForm_AfterUpdate() Dim AcrApp As CAcroApp Dim AcrDoc As CAcroAVDoc Dim AcrForm As AFormApp Dim AcrFields As AFORMAUTLib.Fields Dim db As Database Dim strPath As String Dim strPDF As String 'pathname of PDF form to populate Dim strFDF As String 'pathname of FDF file associated with client Dim blnFileFound As Boolean Set db = CurrentDb() strPath = "\\Server\c\MIRC Databases\" strPDF = strPath & Me!cboShowForm & ".pdf" strFDF = strPath & Me!ClientID & "_" & Me!cboShowForm & ".fdf" Set AcrApp = CreateObject("CAcroApp")<-error occurs here AcrApp.Show ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Set AcrDoc = CreateObject("CAcroAVDoc") OpenFDF: blnFileFound = AcrDoc.Open(strFDF, vbNullString) If Not blnFileFound Then Call CreateNewFDF(strFDF, strPDF) Resume OpenFDF End If End Sub Private Sub CreateNewFDF(strFDF As String, strPDF As String) Dim FDFAcX As FDFACXLib.FdfApp Dim FDFOutput As FDFACXLib.FdfDoc Dim strFirstName As String Dim strMiddleName As String Dim strLastName As String strFirstName = Me!ClientFirstName strMiddleName = Me!ClientMiddleName strLastName = Me!ClientLastName Set FDFAcX = CreateObject("FdfApp.FdfApp") Set FDFOutput = FDFAcX.FDFCreate With FDFOutput .FDFSetValue "First Name", strFirstName, False .FDFSetValue "Middle Name", strMiddleName, False .FDFSetValue "Last Name", strLastName, False .FDFSetFile strPDF 'Associate FDF file with PDF file .FDFSaveToFile strFDF 'Create FDF file on disk .FDFClose 'Close FDF file End With Set FDFOutput = Nothing 'dereference FDF file Set FDFAcX = Nothing 'dereference instance of FDF application End Sub _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 21:31:36-GMT,3097;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15195 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:31:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17599; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:28:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:25:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17294; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:25:43 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990812212556.0097f590@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:25:56 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Given that one can't depend on the "PDF x.x" [major.minor] versioning to indicate the level of Reader required to view a given PDF file, I'm thinking that there is a need for a small plug-in to "pre-flight" PDFs. With such a tool, I envision that one could: 1. Select the highest level Reader (2.x, 3.x, 4.x) allowable; 2. Specify a folder of PDFs to be pre-flighted; 3. Have the plug-in scan the PDFs, producing a report of each PDF that contains any element/structure/feature that would violate the constraint specified in step 1; 4 Alternatively, skip step 1 and instead have the plug-in report on the highest level Reader that would be required to correctly view the entire collection of PDFs specified in step 2. The plug-in would almost certainly have to be run within Acrobat 4, not in any down-level versions, to accomplish this. Are there any plug-in writers out there tackling this sort of thing? Tom Thiersch At 09:19 PM 8/12/99 +0100, you wrote: >> Andi, >> We have created some files using Acrobat 4.0 and can use them >> just fine with >> Reader 3.0 and Exchange 3.0. >> Is there any need for us to be concerned prior to releasing >> an entire CD to >> our people with over 300 documents on it--some of which are >> created using >> Exchange 3.0 and some with Acrobat 4.0? > >I would suggest testing each METHOD - not each file, but each >kind of file. Mostly, if you use Distiller 4.0 in 3.0 >compatibility mode, keeping colours unchanged, you will be >fine. > >Aandi >_ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 21:54:52-GMT,2864;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15743 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:54:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19836; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:50:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:48:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19708; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:48:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199908122148.OAA24429@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:48:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: thiersch@env-sol.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Given that one can't depend on the "PDF x.x" [major.minor] versioning to > indicate the level of Reader required to view a given PDF file, I'm thinking > that there is a need for a small plug-in to "pre-flight" PDFs. > > Are there any plug-in writers out there tackling this sort of thing? Tom: I'm not a programmer, so I can't write this plug-in. But I think it's a great idea. I also want to comment on this thread and your earlier thread. Your thread was quite a bit stronger than mine, but it's right on target. I've been trying to help a lot of people -- on strictly a pro bono basis -- try to solve their problems with PDFs. Many, many of the problems are related to compatibility issues. Without dissecting every file, it's literally impossible to help identify problems if Acrobat changes the version level when it's opened, changed and resaved. IMHO, the version level ought to retain it's original id, unless the contents were structurally changed which would then change its compatibility. That's probably not going to happen. A plug-in that would check compatibility features would be a wonderful, useful and necessary tool. I'll be watching the threads to see if anyone bites. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 21:54:57-GMT,2805;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15752 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:54:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19429; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:45:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:44:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19301; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:44:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:47:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199908122147.OAA27011@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <2.2.32.19990812212556.0097f590@env-sol.com> (message from Tom Thiersch on Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:25:56 -0700) Subject: Re: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 References: <2.2.32.19990812212556.0097f590@env-sol.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > 1. Select the highest level Reader (2.x, 3.x, 4.x) allowable; > 2. Specify a folder of PDFs to be pre-flighted; > 3. Have the plug-in scan the PDFs, producing a report of each PDF that > contains any element/structure/feature that would violate the constraint > specified in step 1; > 4 Alternatively, skip step 1 and instead have the plug-in report on the > highest level Reader that would be required to correctly view the entire > collection of PDFs specified in step 2. > > Are there any plug-in writers out there tackling this sort of thing? Someone deeply familiar with PostScript and PDF could probably produce a Ghostscript-based utility to do this in a few days' work. I could probably do it in a day or two. If someone would like to contract with Aladdin Enterprises to produce such a thing, or for consulting help in producing it, please let me know. I can also recommend some other consultants. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 22:41:23-GMT,3073;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16825 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:41:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24200; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:37:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:34:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24034; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:34:52 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:34:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bee512$cfe4c140$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199908122148.OAA24429@mail.inficad.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > Given that one can't depend on the "PDF x.x" [major.minor] > versioning to > > indicate the level of Reader required to view a given PDF > file, I'm thinking > > that there is a need for a small plug-in to "pre-flight" PDFs. > > > > Are there any plug-in writers out there tackling this sort of thing? The obvious place to put this check is one of the existing pre-flight plug-ins, and I think that is worth while. Some parts of the test are comparatively easy. New colour spaces like ICC, for instance, are very simple to diagnose. Other features can simply be skipped. For instance, a file may contain information on bleeds. That isn't in the 1.2 file format but will not cause any upset. In fact, most new features are designed in this way. Occasionally a new feature can't be accomodated that way, occasionally Adobe slip up. Then there are more complex issues. An image in PDF 1.3 can have a mask to produce an irregular shape. In Acrobat 3 this will just be ignored. An error? Then, there's new JavaScript features. Is it possible to scan this? I suppose so. New forms features too. But then what about areas that were in PDF 1.2, but which were never implemented, or had a bug in Acrobat 3.0. This is where things start to turn into a major research project... Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 22:47:30-GMT,3283;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16984 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:47:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24811; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:43:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:42:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24559; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:42:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199908122241.PAA36383@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:41:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: castidata@casti-publishing.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> We are using Adobe Acrobat 3.01. By the way, i've heard that Acrobat 4 >> permits image editing on a PDF. Does anyone has experienced replacing >> graphics on a PDF using Acrobat 4? > We have edited images with Acrobat 4, however we also have photoshop 5. So > when you edit the image in the PDF it opens up that image in Photoshop, I > do not see why you could not just cut and paste a new image within > Photoshop into this image (the one that opens in PS when you edit it in the > pdf) that you wish to edit. So that would be sort of like replacing the > image. This is a very *clever* solution. And I commend you, Kevin, for your ingenuity. There are many ways to add or replace images in Acrobat 4. And this one is a good one for a onesy-twosy solution. However, if you expect to be doing a lot of editing of PDFs, the plug-in PitStop from http://www.enfocus.com is the only way to go. It also will pre-flight your PDFs. The concept that one has to understand is that one way or another a graphic image needs to be converted to PDF before you can use it in the PDF document. This can be done by distilling an eps graphic, by importing an image (make sure the resolution in the original file is not less than you want in the PDF), by using Kevin's method, by saving a Photoshop 5x file as a single image PDF, and so on. Kevin's method works because Photoshop resaves the adjusted image in PDF format. Don't forget to resave the file. And, no, this doesn't work with Reader 4. You can also move the replaced image around on the page. PitStop will allow you to crop the images, as well. Thanks, Kevin. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 22:57:32-GMT,3175;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17192 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:57:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25930; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:54:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:53:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25790; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:53:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199908122253.PAA38975@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:53:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] bug? / changing file format 1.2 -> 1.3 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Aandi Inston Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> > Given that one can't depend on the "PDF x.x" [major.minor] >> > versioning to indicate the level of Reader required to view a given PDF >> > file, I'm thinking that there is a need for a small plug-in to "pre-flight" >> > PDFs. >> > >> > Are there any plug-in writers out there tackling this sort of thing? > The obvious place to put this check is one of the existing > pre-flight plug-ins, and I think that is worth while. The problem here, Aandi, is that PitStop is 299 bucks, and many users just don't have a need for such a high-powered pre-flight tool and PDF editor to check out a structure. > Some parts of the test are comparatively easy. New colour spaces > like ICC, for instance, are very simple to diagnose. This is one error I see all the time on non-3x compatible PDFS, which one tries to open with Acrobat 3x. > But then what about areas that were in PDF 1.2, but which > were never implemented, or had a bug in Acrobat 3.0. This is > where things start to turn into a major research project... And let's don't forget the nightmare that Adobe caused when they kindly allowed us to embed and subset the Base 14 fonts, but then changed the fonts from Helvetica to Arial, and Times to Times New Roman. Acrobat 3x simply says I don't like this flavor, and barfs on the subset names of Base 14 fonts. Richard in New York aged several years over trying to figure this one out. And I wasn't far behind him. We both went Acrobatty on this issue. So what have we got started here? r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 2:50:45-GMT,2000;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22174 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:50:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13729; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:47:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:44:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13461; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:44:57 -0500 Message-ID: <37B385C7.C87DB5A6@pacbell.net> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:41:12 -0700 From: two turtles Organization: Two Turtles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04C-PBI-NC404 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Powerpoint Graphs to pdf References: <000601bee512$cfe4c140$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a huge powerpoint file (I'm on a Mac, am unsure of the source of the ppt file). When distilled to pdf the graphs lose integrity. Any suggetions? Is it that I need have the client resend the ppt file in smaller chunks? I've taken the ppt apart myself and tried distilling one page at a time with no luck. Thanks in advance. twoturtles _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 2:52:10-GMT,2491;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22196 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:52:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13778; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:47:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:46:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13620; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:46:40 -0500 Message-ID: <01BEE579.868047B0@PC6837> From: Jessie Ambrosio To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Subject: [PDF] Inserting/Replacing Images Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:49:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It sounds that Acrobat 4 is a good choice. Thank you very much for all your expert advises. Jessie :-) >> >Acrobat 4.0 allows images to be edited in Photoshop. >> >It also allows objects on the page to be moved or deleted. >> >> How? By opening the PDF page in Photoshop right? Is there a direct >> edit in Acrobat? > > Yes, there is, using the Touchup Object Tool, Photoshop 5.0 is started > to edit the extracted image. Editing the whole page in Photoshop > would be completely unacceptable in most cases, because the text > would be rasterised. > > Aandi >> >> On the Mac, you would use the tool to select the image. Then double-lick >> with the option key pressed and the image opens in Photoshop. Likewise, on >> Windoze, you would use the control key. >> >> When you save the changed Photoshop file, it updates your PDF. You also have >> to save the changes there, too. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 3:01:34-GMT,2026;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22358 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:01:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14734; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:58:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:57:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14676; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:57:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199908130257.TAA26604@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:38:48 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: UPDATE: Windows'9X & Windows 2000 PostScript Drivers From: "C. Scott Miller" To: Acrobat Talk , PDF Zone Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 1 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > the result of a long term joint driver project between > Adobe and Microsoft. That is good news! I hope your lawyers did their job - at least better than Sun's did. -- C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 3:33:12-GMT,2478;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22964 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17659; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:29:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:28:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17576; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:28:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199908130328.UAA05265@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:28:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Powerpoint Graphs to pdf From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a huge powerpoint file (I'm on a Mac, am unsure of the source of the > ppt file). When distilled to pdf the graphs lose integrity. The source of the graphs is what I would look at. Are they imported EPS files or were they created within Powerpoint? If they are imported EPS then you are right to distill. However, if create in Powerpoint you might try printing to PDF using PDFWriter. I know this is heresy to some people on this list but, in some cases, I have had better luck using PDFWriter converting files created in Office programs (on a Mac) than using Distiller - particularly when graphs are involved. It may be worth a try. Also, are they using TrueType fonts or Type 1? -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 3:56:31-GMT,2059;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23423 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:56:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19650; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:52:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:50:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19444; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:50:24 -0500 Message-ID: <37B39685.80BCC08@showads.com.au> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:22:48 +0930 From: "Andrew Thomas" Organization: ScottDigital Adelaide X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Re: 5 colour jobs in Acrobat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am needed into run a 4 colour process job with a spot colour, making the job 5 colour. Is there any way that anyone knows of that all five plates can be stored in a composite workflow, for viewing in Acrobat. I am currently using the Acrobat Distiller (ppd) but this will convert spot colours to process colours. Any info would be much appreciated. _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 5:06:32-GMT,1925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24765 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:06:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25476; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:02:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:01:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25133; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:00:57 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389535205@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 and Plug-Ins Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:03:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Take a look at Dionis (http://www.dionis.com) I think one of the Link Tools has that feature - otherwise you could ask him (the email address is on the site) .. --------------- > --Speaking of plugins- Is there one that will not only count the pages of > a > document, but the number of bookmarks and links as well? ------------------ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 8:13:08-GMT,2625;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA28639 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 02:13:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05578; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:07:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:04:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05355; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:04:47 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: 5 colour jobs in Acrobat Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:04:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bee562$6ca28ae0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37B39685.80BCC08@showads.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am needed into run a 4 colour process job with a spot colour, making > the job 5 colour. Is there any way that anyone knows of that all five > plates can be stored in a composite workflow, for viewing in > Acrobat. I > am currently using the Acrobat Distiller (ppd) but this will convert > spot colours to process colours. Acrobat 3.0 and above are quite capable of holding box process and spot colours. Nothing in the PPD will force your files into process. So there must be some other factor causing either a. the spot colours are not getting into the PDF; or b. they are there but you can't view or output them. The first, a, is most likely. With Acrobat 3 this happens unless you take special steps. Please describe your workflow, from the originating application, which version of Distiller, and what Distiller settings you are using. Aandi _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 13:21:07-GMT,2412;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04382 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 07:21:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28141; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:14:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:11:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27696; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:11:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199908131311.GAA78127@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 06:11:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: 5 colour jobs in Acrobat From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: andrew.thomas@showads.com.a Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am needed into run a 4 colour process job with a spot colour, making > the job 5 colour. Is there any way that anyone knows of that all five > plates can be stored in a composite workflow, for viewing in Acrobat. I > am currently using the Acrobat Distiller (ppd) but this will convert > spot colours to process colours. It would really be helpful to know more information about your working environment, if one is to give good advice. However, if you use Acrobat 4 with the proper graphics/application parameters, Distiller creates a PDF which retains spot color information *automatically*. This is unlike Acrobat 3, where you needed to invoke the epilogue/prologue ps files to be able to retain spot color information in your composite PDF. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 13:30:42-GMT,2211;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04603 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 07:30:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29318; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:26:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:25:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29216; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:25:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199908131325.GAA80246@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 06:25:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Actually, maintaining spot colors by using prologue/epilogue is only > necessary if you are using Distiller 3.0. > > Distiller 4.0 always maintains spot colors. Todd is absolutely right, and I am heading to the washroom to remove the egg from my face. I am like an old dog...it's hard to relearn every trick. And the Adobe manual is vague on this issue. So I just kept doing it the old way. I did test a duotone, with another spot color, from a Quark file. Made a perfect PDF that pre-flighted properly in PitStop, and separated properly with PDF Output Pro. Thanks for correcting me. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 14:36:20-GMT,2074;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06030 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:36:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02906; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:30:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:28:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02733; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:28:12 -0500 Message-ID: <37B4296C.FAD9E92F@lauterkranz.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:19:25 +0200 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Outline on Document border References: <199908131325.GAA80246@mail.inficad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ 1 Problem: I am working with agfa apogee and preps to output imposed pdfs to an imagesetter. What we need is a way to automatically draw a outline (any customcolor) exactly around the PDF pageborder. We need this to see the page-size in the proof-plot. Any idea how to do this with the help of pdf-marks, postscript or any javasript-automatic in Acro.4. Thanks Richard _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 14:37:18-GMT,3234;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06061 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:37:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03538; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:33:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:32:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03322; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:32:31 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990813092553.00c65d20@prodatanet.com> X-Sender: brucelist@prodatanet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:32:06 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bruce Kessel Subject: Re: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF In-Reply-To: <199908131325.GAA80246@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ By "separated perfectly" do you mean into CMYK plates or to a black and spot plate? Did you have "Separations" unchecked in your print dialog box in Quark (producing a composite PDF file). If so, then all spot colors appear to get converted to process by Quark (at least all spot colors are removed from the Output tab). If this is the case I don't see how PDF Output Pro can produce the true spot color. It must be derived from process or something. Sorry for my confusion!?!? At 06:25 AM 8/13/99 -0700, you wrote: >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > > > Actually, maintaining spot colors by using prologue/epilogue is only > > necessary if you are using Distiller 3.0. > > > > Distiller 4.0 always maintains spot colors. > >Todd is absolutely right, and I am heading to the washroom to remove the egg >from my face. > >I am like an old dog...it's hard to relearn every trick. And the Adobe >manual is vague on this issue. So I just kept doing it the old way. > >I did test a duotone, with another spot color, from a Quark file. Made a >perfect PDF that pre-flighted properly in PitStop, and separated properly >with PDF Output Pro. > >Thanks for correcting me. > >r|i|c|h >_ >_____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ ><- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> ><- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >_____________________________________________________________ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 15:13:31-GMT,3486;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06938 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:13:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07633; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:09:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:07:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07418; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:07:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@pdfzone.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:02:57 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: ListOwner Subject: [PDF] ADMIN: Thanks to (almost) all for cooperation! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ A brief update -- and a big THANKS to PDF/PDF-Digest list subscribers! From recent public postings of 'Netiquette Reminders' to this list, you may be aware that we've been making a proactive effort to reduce, if not eliminate, some of the causes of "list bloat" -- ongoing re-posting of the full text of previous messages, HTML-based email, nuisance attachments and so forth. Behind the scenes, we've been notifying individuals whose posted messages were contributing unnecessarily to this list problem, one that wastes bandwidth, burdens digest subscribers and bloats the list archives. Nothing personal, for those of you who've received a notice (or two). It's simply the sort of problem that left unchecked can cause a decline in the value of a discussion list to the majority of subscribers. Some will even unsubscribe if the problem gets too bad. We want to let everyone know that we've seen some significant, positive changes just in the past few weeks. For example, the most recent digest of the PDF list is 67 kb -- BUT that accounts for 43 separate email messages posted by subscribers! With perhaps one or two exceptions, there was very little *bloat* in any of yesterday's posted messages. That tells us that people *do* understand that these steps are being taken for the good of the PDF list & its more than 2,000 subscribers -- and are cooperating willingly. We VERY MUCH appreciate that. Please keep up the great work! (and *please* do not re-post this message back to the list.) ;-} - PDFzone.com * P D F z o n e . com * _______________________________________________ One Point Place | Suite 202 | Madison, WI 53719 EMAIL: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ --------------------------------------------------------- Email lists: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 15:29:03-GMT,2197;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07425 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:28:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09180; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:24:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:22:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08973; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:22:51 -0500 Message-ID: <19990813152603.8251.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:26:03 -0700 (PDT) From: John Posada Subject: [PDF] Source for icons To: PDF List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm looking for an online source of large high quality pdf icons for a "Quick-start" printed document that I'm doing, maybe in a color tif format. I don't want to capture them from just any web site, aside from the fact that what I've found are too small and low res. I was looking on the Adobe site for something like Webmaster Resources or Print Resources, but didn't find anything. Any ideas? Thanks === John Posada, Merck Research Laboratories Sr Technical Writer, WinHelp and html (work) john_posada@merck.com (pers) jposada01@yahoo.com 732-594-0873 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 15:30:29-GMT,3792;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07451 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:30:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09427; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:26:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:25:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09331; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:25:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199908131525.IAA01544@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:25:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: brucelist@prodatanet.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Trust me, Bruce. I tested this just before posting my previous message. > By "separated perfectly" do you mean into CMYK plates or to a black and > spot plate? Actually, I hit a home run. I made a cyan/black duotone, and created a spot color (green, but not rgb green). Perfectly means I got four cmyk plates (black, cyan had the duotone; magenta, yellow were blank) and the spot green plate. > Did you have "Separations" unchecked in your print dialog box in Quark > (producing a composite PDF file). If so, then all spot colors appear to > get converted to process by Quark (at least all spot colors are removed > from the Output tab). Yes, it was a composite PDF file and, yes, the box was unchecked. When creating a composite file, Quark retains the color information used when you created the color to begin with. In other words, RGB red will still be RGB. This particular situation can be a bad thing, and if you make the horrendous mistake of naming a custom color in an EPS graphic red, blue or green, without first removing those names from the Quark color palette, the output for that graphic will be in RGB colors. The moral to this story is that you should always remove all of the default RGB colors before beginning to design a doc, and in the same light, make sure and name and identify the charactertistics of your custom colors to be identical to those in the EPS file. And, make sure to indicate your choice of behavior for the color: spot or process. > If this is the case I don't see how PDF Output Pro can produce the true > spot color. It must be derived from process or something. When Quark prints the ps file, the spot color is identified as such. The spot color is retained when the ps file is distilled (in Acrobat 4). If the PDF is processed with the proper rip or plug-in (Crackerjack or PDF Output Pro), the spot colors or separated duotone should work just fine. Remember, too, that in general spot color will work on Level 2 or Level 3 ps...duotones and spot color blends will only work on Level 3 devices. > Sorry for my confusion!?!? Just don't confuse me, and we'll be all right. Hope this helps. r|i|c|h _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 15:45:17-GMT,2363;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07873 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10742; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:39:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:38:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10532; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:38:26 -0500 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:42:09 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: [PDF] indexing software called "docFather" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi list, As you know a lot of us none developers but product creators are looking for a means to have our siyes indexed i=on the Web rather than on CD's. This would enhance our site's value to users. A friend has found the following software. "a piece of software called "docFather" that claims to index PDF files as well as standard HTML files" It might be software that allows search engines to see our data or it might allow the index search function to work on the web. Does anyone know about this software and what it really does? Thanks Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 16:31:04-GMT,2570;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09107 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:31:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15613; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:25:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:23:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15471; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:23:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:18:48 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] indexing software called "docFather" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > A friend has found the following software. > > "a piece of software called "docFather" that claims to > index PDF files as well as standard HTML files" > > It might be software that allows search engines to see our data or it might > allow the index search function to work on the web. Does anyone know about > this software and what it really does? There's an FAQ page -- and a printable PDF "QuickTour" at: http://sfs-software.com/docfather/faqs.html Neither .pdf or Acrobat are specifically mentioned among the file types it will index. rgds ~ Kurt __________ P D F z o n e . c o m | http://www.pdfzone.com/ _________ "Online Hub to All Things Acrobat & PDF Kurt Foss | Editor | mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 300+ PDF Tools: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/index.html _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 16:33:55-GMT,2214;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09168 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:33:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16095; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:29:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:28:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15951; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:28:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:23:53 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] indexing software called "docFather" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > "a piece of software called "docFather" that claims to > index PDF files as well as standard HTML files" ADDENDUM to previous reply... Another site says that "DocFather Professional" enables indexing of more file types, including PDF. According to the description, "it shows you in which [PDF] file and page your keywords are located and transports you the desired file." SEE: http://www.bingham-digital.com/docfather/difference.html ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 13-Aug-1999 22:07:21-GMT,2293;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21896 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:07:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15086; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:00:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:58:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14892; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:58:33 -0500 Message-ID: <37B49608.5A0E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:02:49 -0700 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] indexing software called "docFather" References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss wrote: > Another site says that "DocFather Professional" enables indexing of > more file types, including PDF. According to the description, "it > shows you in which [PDF] file and page your keywords are located and > transports you the desired file." > > SEE: http://www.bingham-digital.com/docfather/difference.html Greetings All. Does anyone know if this would work with PDF Image only files with searching for data contained in the "General Document Info fileds? If not, is there another solution to this? Interested in hearing what Y'all have to say. Have a good weekend, Lawrence Spear _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 14-Aug-1999 1:01:16-GMT,2262;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24224 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:01:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29280; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:56:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:53:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29113; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:53:47 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990813203825.00ac8470@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:50:37 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] counting links/bookmarks (was: Acrobat 4.0 and Plug-Ins) In-Reply-To: <199908131428.JAA02752@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ David is right. To count links, bookmarks, and widgets (form fields), you can use Ari's Link Checker. Count for the current document, or you can count in batch for a folder full of files to get a PDF file with text that lists each file in the folder along with the link/bookmark/widget counts. It will also count the number of each of these that are broken, although you can turn off this part of the counting in the Preferences dialog to speed things up: http://www.dionis.com/tb/alcinfo.html Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 14-Aug-1999 1:17:11-GMT,3015;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24903 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:17:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA30774; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:13:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:12:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA30645; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:12:45 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01bee5f3$69ca45b0$0300000a@nt-server.TGIASO> From: "Ron Culp-TGIASO, Inc." To: Subject: Re: [PDF] counting links/bookmarks (was: Acrobat 4.0 and Plug-Ins) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:21:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks to you and David. I am checking it out. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, August 13, 1999 5:58 PM Subject: [PDF] counting links/bookmarks (was: Acrobat 4.0 and Plug-Ins) > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >David is right. To count links, bookmarks, and widgets (form fields), you >can use Ari's Link Checker. Count for the current document, or you can >count in batch for a folder full of files to get a PDF file with text that >lists each file in the folder along with the link/bookmark/widget >counts. It will also count the number of each of these that are broken, >although you can turn off this part of the counting in the Preferences >dialog to speed things up: >http://www.dionis.com/tb/alcinfo.html > >Best Regards, >Dan-Ari Feinberg >Dionis >_ >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> ><- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> >________________________________________________________________ > _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 14-Aug-1999 17:34:41-GMT,2711;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02478 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:34:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00014; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:29:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:24:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32340; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:24:04 -0500 Message-Id: <37B5A521.76C1A530@world.std.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:19:29 -0400 From: Bob Boeri Organization: EMedia Professional X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Daily Discussion List Subject: Subject: Re: [PDF] Disappearing Word PDFMaker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, Just a follow-up to my own question about PDFMaker. I had two problems, one of which Adobe's Customer First was able to help me with. That first problem was that I'd named my distiller print driver "4.0 Acrobat Distiller" from simply "Acrobat Distiller" (to distinguish it from the 3.0 version, which I used to have on my system). PDFMaker looks for the latter, and so not finding it it told me to re-install Acrobat. I did that, and it presumeably re-installed Distiller, but my name persisted. As to instability etc., that is an acknowledged problem. In fact what PDFMaker was doing to me was very surprising. I had bolded the first word in the first column of every row in an MS Word table. For some reason, PDFMaker was changing the "bold" to a "Heading 4" style, then PDFMaker was (recursively) trying to map heading 4 styles to bookmarks... I canceled it after around 1400 such bookmarks. Sent the document to Adobe engineering who is working on a series of bug-fixes with PDFMaker. -- Bob Boeri http://world.std.com/~bboeri _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 15-Aug-1999 15:11:31-GMT,2130;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20264 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:11:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27703; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:07:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:02:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27303; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:02:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199908151502.IAA16002@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:36:13 -0700 Subject: [PDF] PDFMaker availability From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have PDFMaker for my WIN Word 97 but I would like to have one for my MAC Word 98. I would also like to know if PDFMaker will be available for WIN Office 2000 which I have just received (but am reluctant to load just yet without the plug-in). Any insights? I have tried the Adobe download site and Microsoft/MacTopia without luck. -- Thanks, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 15-Aug-1999 20:28:00-GMT,2644;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24911 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:27:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20958; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:22:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:17:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20471; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:17:26 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:16:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bee75b$1c83ea40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990813092553.00c65d20@prodatanet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > By "separated perfectly" do you mean into CMYK plates or to a > black and > spot plate? > > Did you have "Separations" unchecked in your print dialog box > in Quark > (producing a composite PDF file). If so, then all spot > colors appear to > get converted to process by Quark (at least all spot colors > are removed > from the Output tab). > > If this is the case I don't see how PDF Output Pro can > produce the true > spot color. It must be derived from process or something. As we have been saying, PDF files CAN contain spot colours, either in composite OR separated form. Quark does NOT convert spot to process in the situation you describe. It simply does not list plates because you aren't making them. Hence, once you have the PDF file made (which may require careful set up of Distiller) you can output spot plates. Aandi _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 15-Aug-1999 23:40:57-GMT,4832;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27648 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 17:40:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04009; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:37:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:35:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03853; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:35:09 -0500 Message-ID: <37B74F33.BE29A137@showads.com.au> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:07:25 +0930 From: "Andrew Thomas" Organization: ScottDigital Adelaide X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF References: <199908131525.IAA01544@mail.inficad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, this is Andrew who wrote the original message, I was wondering what ppd you are using in Quark as I am using the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 ppd and I have no option to retain spot colours. I can only save as a compostite 4 colour postscript which automatically converts to process only or as a greyscale. How do you manage to retain the spot colour information before Distilling the postscript files? Rich Sprague wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Trust me, Bruce. I tested this just before posting my previous message. > > > By "separated perfectly" do you mean into CMYK plates or to a black and > > spot plate? > > Actually, I hit a home run. I made a cyan/black duotone, and created a spot > color (green, but not rgb green). Perfectly means I got four cmyk plates > (black, cyan had the duotone; magenta, yellow were blank) and the spot green > plate. > > > Did you have "Separations" unchecked in your print dialog box in Quark > > (producing a composite PDF file). If so, then all spot colors appear to > > get converted to process by Quark (at least all spot colors are removed > > from the Output tab). > > Yes, it was a composite PDF file and, yes, the box was unchecked. When > creating a composite file, Quark retains the color information used when you > created the color to begin with. In other words, RGB red will still be RGB. > This particular situation can be a bad thing, and if you make the horrendous > mistake of naming a custom color in an EPS graphic red, blue or green, > without first removing those names from the Quark color palette, the output > for that graphic will be in RGB colors. > > The moral to this story is that you should always remove all of the default > RGB colors before beginning to design a doc, and in the same light, make > sure and name and identify the charactertistics of your custom colors to be > identical to those in the EPS file. And, make sure to indicate your choice > of behavior for the color: spot or process. > > > If this is the case I don't see how PDF Output Pro can produce the true > > spot color. It must be derived from process or something. > > When Quark prints the ps file, the spot color is identified as such. The > spot color is retained when the ps file is distilled (in Acrobat 4). If the > PDF is processed with the proper rip or plug-in (Crackerjack or PDF Output > Pro), the spot colors or separated duotone should work just fine. Remember, > too, that in general spot color will work on Level 2 or Level 3 > ps...duotones and spot color blends will only work on Level 3 devices. > > > Sorry for my confusion!?!? > > Just don't confuse me, and we'll be all right. > > Hope this helps. > > r|i|c|h > > _ > _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ > <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> > <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > _____________________________________________________________ _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 2:29:11-GMT,2966;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00098 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 20:29:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17913; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:25:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:23:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17730; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:23:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199908160223.TAA07339@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:23:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: andrew.thomas@showads.com.au Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Hello, this is Andrew who wrote the original message, I was wondering what ppd > you are using in Quark as I am using the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 ppd and I have > no option to retain spot colours. I can only save as a compostite 4 colour > postscript which automatically converts to process only or as a greyscale. Oh, how do you know this? Have you pre-flighted your file? I use Acrobat 4 and the Distiller ppd that came with it. If I am using 3, then I use the lower version ppd (modified so that the default colors are cmyk and not rgb--as I remember). > How do you manage to retain the spot colour information before Distilling the > postscript files? You don't need an option--it's automatic. Since Quark is making a composite ps file, it includes all cmyk and spot color information without you knowing it. It's up to Distiller to take the ps file and make sense of it. You just have to make sure that you have set up your colors correctly in the Quark file. In Acrobat 3, you *must* have the epiloque/prologue.ps box checked in the advanced tab for spot color information to be included in the PDF file. In Acrobat 4, this necessity has been removed (although the check box remains for other uses). If you wish to discuss this further off-list, please feel free to e-mail me directly. r|i|c|h _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 8:06:04-GMT,1993;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05505 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 02:06:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08650; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 03:02:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 03:00:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08380; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 03:00:50 -0500 X-Envelope-Sender-Is: ASSIST.GGR1@mchm.siemens.de (at relayer thoth.mch.sni.de) Message-ID: <947D923D163DD21185900060088F747123A067@mchp9ada.mch.sbs.de> From: ZT GG R1 ASSIST To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat BOOKMARKS Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:00:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I got Acrobat 4.0. Having created a new bookmark I'd like to copy this bookmark several times into other branches of the same bookmark-tree. Acrobat only supports moving but not copying the bookmark. Does anybody have a solution for my problem (e.g. a plugin)? Thanks in advance for your support. Matthias Otto _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 8:39:55-GMT,2345;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA06007 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 02:39:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10775; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 03:36:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 03:35:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA10713; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 03:35:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jo Crawford To: "'PDF'" Subject: [PDF] PDFmaker, Visio graphics and text boxes Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:28:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I use Acrobat Exchange 3.0 and Word 97. I need to convert documents with GIF files and Visio graphics into PDF files. I need bookmarks and cross-references turned into links. Some of the cross-references are in text boxes. I can do some work on the PDF after creation but I need it to be nearly automatic. I've tried PDFMaker 1.0. It doesn't notice the cross-references in the text boxes, and because it uses Distiller and not PDFWriter, all the Visio graphics look awful (I don't know why). Is there something I should do differently? Does Acrobat 4.0 solve either of these problems? (I've tried Local Render, which sorts out the Visio problem - by using PDFWriter - but still ignores the text boxes). Thanks, Jo Crawford JC@alphametrics.co.uk Alphametrics Ltd, Royston _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 11:35:41-GMT,3468;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08520 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 05:35:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22261; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 06:30:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 06:29:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22177; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 06:29:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: Peter Ring To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=C6PDF=C5_indexing_software_called_=22doc?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Father=22?= Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:29:06 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA22173 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If money is not important, you might want to have a look at LivePublish, http://www.nextpage.com/livepub. It indexes PDF as well as HTML, XML, Word, and a couple of other formats. Kind regards Peter Ring -----Original Message----- From: weller@axion.net [mailto:weller@axion.net] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 6:42 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: ĆPDFĹ indexing software called "docFather" The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi list, As you know a lot of us none developers but product creators are looking for a means to have our siyes indexed i=on the Web rather than on CD's. This would enhance our site's value to users. A friend has found the following software. "a piece of software called "docFather" that claims to index PDF files as well as standard HTML files" It might be software that allows search engines to see our data or it might allow the index search function to work on the web. Does anyone know about this software and what it really does? Thanks Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- IDG, Desktop Publishers Institute join forces in new publishing venture -> <- Details, press release: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/IDGandDPI.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 14:11:50-GMT,2808;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10968 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:11:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03190; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:03:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:01:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02856; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:01:38 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , Subject: [PDF] Ideal PDF PC Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:01:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1BA6C6FF630349-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ For once, I've gotten good news on a Monday morning! After a week of wasted time and effort due to hardware deficiencies, my department (that would be me and the other lady) has been told to design whatever computer we want budgetted for us for next year. That's right, we get to design our own ideal computers! "But why are you putting this on the PDF Lists?" you may ask. I want to make sure I'm not missing something from my ideal setup that would make my life easier with regards to PDFs. If you could send me your thoughts, either on an ideal system in general or with regards to PDF, privately and off-list, I'll compile them and put them up for everyone later this week (say, Friday or so). My only constraint is that I'll still be using a Windows platform (likely NT, but apparently negotiable), but I'll go ahead and compile a Mac wish-list as well, if I get that information. Thanks for your help, and I'll let you know how it turns out. Remember, reply directly to jkinstle@kcc.com (not to the whole list). Joel Kinstle Kimberly-Clark Corporation _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 14:12:46-GMT,2173;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10981 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:12:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03325; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:04:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:03:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03214; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:03:53 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP From: "Janet Loprano" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:10:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] PMS colors in PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on APRelay1/TheAP(Release 5.0 (Intl)|30 March 1999) at 08/16/99 10:04:46 AM, Serialize by Router on APRelay1/TheAP(Release 5.0 (Intl)|30 March 1999) at 08/16/99 10:04:54 AM, Serialize complete at 08/16/99 10:04:54 AM Message-ID: <852567CF.004DD78B.00@ctc2.ap.org> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is one of the most common errors we see at AdSEND. Usually the cause is that the spot color was defined incorrectly in the page layout application. Check the color, make sure it's not defined as a CMYK Spot. Make sure Pantone is selected as the model. Janet Loprano Senior Applications Specialist The Associated Press / AdSEND _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 15:08:37-GMT,2808;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12212 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:08:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07731; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:48:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:46:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07508; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:46:57 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com'" Subject: [PDF] Ideal PDF PC -- More Info Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:46:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1BA6FB9D645577-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry, folks. Someone was nice enough to point out that in my excited giddiness, I didn't bother to tell you what I do! That makes it hard to make informed suggestions. I'm half of a corporate in-house design department for benefit communications. We use a variety of graphic and layout programs (increasing with each new consultant...) to produce materials that are sent to be printed (we're teaching our printer to love PDFs) as well as materials that are distributed electronically (some as PDFs, some as HTML, some as god-knows-what). Currently, we don't use many of PDF's interactive features. We're mostly a prepare-for-press and give-end-users-a-single-printable-version sort of shop. I expect that to change as we place more of our material on our intranet and the corporate-wide comfort level with PDF increases. Hopefully that helps narrow down what I'm after, but I'll certainly include additional information in the compilation if you send it to me. Who knows what someone else may need? Joel Kinstle _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 16:16:34-GMT,3594;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13945 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16391; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:10:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:06:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15905; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:06:40 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990816170441.009315c0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:04:41 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Overprint Stteings In-Reply-To: <01bee236$4590a010$02c802c0@workstation> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 12:40 09/08/99 +0530, S Khullar wrote: > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Dear Martin Bailey > >At last I have some answers. > >But the main question remains. What is the solution? You will say PS L3. >Agfa says Apogee. But what about the rest? > >Specifically, a newspaper who has PL L2 Rip, wants to accept adverts in PDF. >What should he do? Advice the clients not to use overprint? > >khullar He has two choices. If his RIP allows him to control overprinting in PostScript jobs then print from Acrobat to PostScript and use those controls. Certainly Harlequin RIPs would let him do that. I know many other RIPs provide some control of overprinting, but I don't know them well enough to say whether or not they support overprinting of one process colour over another. If his RIP doesn't give him control over overprinting when using in-RIP separations then he will either have to tell his suppliers not to use overprinting, or will have to ask for pre-separated PDF files. Unfortunately, such files can be difficult to place as a partial page ad, may not necessarily have each separation marked appropriately, and maintaining correct screen angles can be difficult. We've reached the entree with PDF, but the dessert and cheese are still just out of our reach :-( Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 17:55:52-GMT,3982;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16997 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:55:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27376; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:51:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:49:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27111; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:49:08 -0500 Message-ID: <005901bee80f$7d9ff120$a885d0d1@PLATO> From: Yazan@UNET.net (Fahmawi, Yazan) To: Subject: [PDF] Window size in Acrobat 4 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:48:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01BEE7ED.F669B220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2918.2701 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2918.2701 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BEE7ED.F669B220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Here's a problem we haven't been able to solve in Acrobat 4. We're trying to open a new Acrobat window of a specific size (and=20 position). This is easy to do in html but the Javascript we use there=20 doesn't seem to work in Acrobat. The javascript for opening a file in a new window ("app.openInPlace =3D = false") that is noted in=20 the AcroJS.pdf document from Adobe does open the file in a new window=20 just fine, but the window is maximized, covering the parent window (and = other open PDF files), and thus confusing users. If there are additional = parameters for=20 this code, they aren't mentioned in AcroJS.pdf. If we need to go to the SDK to do this, does anyone have this=20 solution for sale? Thanks for your help. -Yazan ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BEE7ED.F669B220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BEE7ED.F669B220-- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 21:06:31-GMT,2369;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21937 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:06:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15403; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:00:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:56:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15002; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:56:43 -0500 Message-ID: <37B8445A.2039E7CC@pam-mar.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:03:26 +0000 From: Elaine Organization: Pam-mar Color Service X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for August-16-99 [V2 #592] References: <199908161606.LAA15924@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi - you're right about the seps - Quark - pdf.....if the quark file is distilled with all the hi res stuff chosen and as a composite, the pdf file should hold all separations. Any for the initial person, if you use something like the crackerjack plugin - you should be able to access all seps. Distiller 4.0 (I've been told by Adobe) should acknowledge even spot seps but a PS level 3 output device is needed. I have only level 2...actually I haven't had time to try it. So there you go.... -- Elaine Marshall Pam Mar Color Service 1550 Magnolia Drive Cincinnati, Oh 45215 513.563.4117 513.563.4046 FAX egm@pam-mar.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 23:38:49-GMT,2398;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25919 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:38:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32009; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:32:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:30:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31660; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:30:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990816193517.008c9140@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:35:17 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] More PDFMaker questions In-Reply-To: <001501bee502$e2a4d0a0$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.hom e.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ That sounds about right. It was working nicely for me too until recently, when Word decided that it should buy Dr. Watson's farm every time I insert a hyperlink. Any clue as to why that might be? > >If you select the Distiller option of PDFMaker your links should work. It's worked for us, anyway. > >And yes ... we've experienced the same instability you refer to on occasion. Hard to troubleshoot when it just happens periodically. > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 16-Aug-1999 23:42:40-GMT,2832;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26041 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:42:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32744; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:39:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:38:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA32584; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:38:10 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990816194239.0090aea0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:42:39 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Powerpoint Graphs to pdf In-Reply-To: <37B385C7.C87DB5A6@pacbell.net> References: <000601bee512$cfe4c140$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I have a huge powerpoint file (I'm on a Mac, am unsure of the source of the >ppt file). When distilled to pdf the graphs lose integrity. Any suggetions? >Is it that I need have the client resend the ppt file in smaller chunks? I've >taken the ppt apart myself and tried distilling one page at a time with no >luck. Thanks in advance. > What do you mean by "lose integrity"? Can you pin that down more precisely? If the graphs are 3D pie charts, I suspect you've run into a little "feature" of PowerPoint's that lies in wait for the unwary. Those tend to produce PS that looks as though somebody traced the screen display raster line by rasterline. Dig into the PS and you'll see that that's almost exactly what's happened. IOW, there may not be much you can do about it if that's the problem, other than perhaps useing a different form of chart. 3D pies with segments pulled out seem to suffer the worst. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 0:06:21-GMT,2122;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26571 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:06:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02629; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:02:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:01:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02425; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: <37B8B501.B7358CFF@interlog.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:04:01 -0500 From: Brian Dench X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] color blend X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199908161606.LAA15924@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have set up a text block in Quark 4.0 with a smooth colour blend in the background. from 0% to 100% blue. It looks like a continuous, smooth transition on the screen in Quark, but when it goes through Distiller the pdf colour changes are quite discernable - in chunks - not gradual, smooth. I've tried RGB/CMYK,Pantone... all the same problem. Should I be tweaking something somewhere? If this discussion occurred already, I must have missed it.. Sorry. Thank you for your input. _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 1:08:45-GMT,2191;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27992 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:08:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08985; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:04:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:02:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08811; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:02:55 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389535231@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat BOOKMARKS Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:03:26 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Take a look at Dionis Bookmark Tool (http://www.dionis.com) they have a plugin to do exactly that, and it does it in batch as well.. (no I don't work for them, nor do I make any commission from them :-) - just a satisfied customer)... ----------------- > I got Acrobat 4.0. > Having created a new bookmark I'd like to copy this bookmark > several times into other branches of the same bookmark-tree. > Acrobat only supports moving but not copying the bookmark. > Does anybody have a solution for my problem (e.g. a plugin)? > > Thanks in advance for your support. > > Matthias Otto > _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 2:46:33-GMT,1853;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29979 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:46:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19975; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:42:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:39:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19608; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:39:50 -0500 Message-ID: <37B8CA82.21CBCA72@wt.net> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:35:47 -0500 From: Rick Bishop Organization: PRP_Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Source for icons References: <199908141724.MAA32368@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ John: I've found the best way to get a high res icon is to copy the largest graphic you can find into Illustrator, stretch it out to 6x6" or so, then draw your own over the top. Rick Bishop Houston _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 5:50:55-GMT,1752;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03747 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:50:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02521; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:46:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:44:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02403; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:44:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Avhad Ankush-FSGA1923 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Any tips on PDF to DOC? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:44:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2580.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi PDF masters, Is it possible to convert a PDF file to a DOC. file? If so, are there any tools that are needed for the same? Regs./Ankush _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 7:01:56-GMT,4109;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA05502 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:01:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07798; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:57:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:56:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA07669; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:56:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199908170656.HAA21125@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 7:37:44 +0000 To: " pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: Re: [PDF] color blend MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ RE>[PDF] color blend 17/8/99 You may want to look at your compression settings in distiller the more compression the lest info put in graduted tints etc. Stuart Slaney -------------------------------------- Date: 17/8/99 7:25 am To: Stuart Slaney From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have set up a text block in Quark 4.0 with a smooth colour blend in the background. from 0% to 100% blue. It looks like a continuous, smooth transition on the screen in Quark, but when it goes through Distiller the pdf colour changes are quite discernable - in chunks - not gradual, smooth. I've tried RGB/CMYK,Pantone... all the same problem. Should I be tweaking something somewhere? If this discussion occurred already, I must have missed it.. Sorry. Thank you for your input. _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ [Message ID: -1277247766] [Internet header:] Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by barsac.ipl.co.uk (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08505 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:23:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02443; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:01:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:01:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02425; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: <37B8B501.B7358CFF@interlog.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:04:01 -0500 From: Brian Dench X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] color blend X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199908161606.LAA15924@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 9:37:12-GMT,4695;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08540 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:36:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA18643; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:32:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:29:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA18272; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Peter Ring To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=C6PDF=C5_Ideal_PDF_PC_=2D=2D_More_Info?= Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:29:41 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA18268 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ A motherboard with four PC100 connectors for RAM, an APG slot, several PCI slots (at least three), and maybe a few ISA slots. A recent chip set, e.g. Intel 440BX. A speedy CPU, e.g. Intel Pentium III 450 MHz. Mind you, the amount of RAM, the size and speed of the hard disk, and the speed of the graphic card is just as important as the CPU. As much RAM as possible, at the very least 128 Mb. More is better. A speedy hard disk, a large (at least 10 Gb) Ultra Wide SCSI-2 would be nice. Calls for a good SCSI controller, e.g. Adaptec 2940U2W or 2940UW. Some motherboards come with an embedded Adaptec SCSI controller. A speedy and stable graphics card, e.g. Matrox Millenium G200, or the new G400. Should be AGP x2 or x4, and at least 8 Mb RAM. I like Matrox cards because of 1) stable drivers 2) works well multi-headed or with more than one graphic card, i.e., you can have more than one monitor. One large (21") flat monitor, e.g. Eizo (Nanao) FlexScan T960 or FX E8. One smaller monitor to keep the large one uncluttered. Expect to pay a lot for the large monitor; explain that it will survive three generations of PCs. If you do a lot of drafting, a large tablet with a wireless pen, e.g. Wacom Intous A3. Kind regards Peter Ring -----Original Message----- From: Kinstle, Joel [mailto:jkinstle@kcc.com] Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 4:47 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'; 'pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com' Subject: ĆPDFĹ Ideal PDF PC -- More Info The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry, folks. Someone was nice enough to point out that in my excited giddiness, I didn't bother to tell you what I do! That makes it hard to make informed suggestions. I'm half of a corporate in-house design department for benefit communications. We use a variety of graphic and layout programs (increasing with each new consultant...) to produce materials that are sent to be printed (we're teaching our printer to love PDFs) as well as materials that are distributed electronically (some as PDFs, some as HTML, some as god-knows-what). Currently, we don't use many of PDF's interactive features. We're mostly a prepare-for-press and give-end-users-a-single-printable-version sort of shop. I expect that to change as we place more of our material on our intranet and the corporate-wide comfort level with PDF increases. Hopefully that helps narrow down what I'm after, but I'll certainly include additional information in the compilation if you send it to me. Who knows what someone else may need? Joel Kinstle _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 9:54:26-GMT,2092;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08906 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA19843; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:49:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:47:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA19688; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:47:13 -0500 Message-ID: <37B9305E.3CADDCAA@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:50:22 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Subset fonts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, does anyone know how subset fonts in PDF files can be optimised. What happened is as follows: I have a large file created by combining individual PDFs of single pages (with same font subsets), when the individual pages were extracted again from the combined file, they would be 3Mb in size for 1 page of text ! >From the Acrobat documentation, it seems that when files are combined, the fonts subsets get combined as well, resulting in a large file even if the fonts are similar. Is there a way to remove this so ? Josephine Leong _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 10:01:26-GMT,2902;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09024 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:01:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA20542; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:57:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:56:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20385; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:56:17 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Subset fonts Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:55:35 +0100 Message-ID: <001801bee896$a7912bc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37B9305E.3CADDCAA@pacific.net.sg> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > does anyone know how subset fonts in PDF files can be optimised. What > happened is as follows: I have a large file created by combining > individual PDFs of single pages (with same font subsets), when the > individual pages were extracted again from the combined file, > they would > be 3Mb in size for 1 page of text ! > > >From the Acrobat documentation, it seems that when files are > combined, > the fonts subsets get combined as well, resulting in a large file even > if the fonts are similar. Is there a way to remove this so ? The solution is to NOT subset fonts if you intend to combine more than 2-3 PDF files together. Use unsubsetted fonts. Although these are larger, they will be consolidated leaving only one copy at the end. You should realise that although you say your font subsets are the same, they are probably all different. A subset contains only the characters used in a document, and unless all your documents contain exactly the same words, the subsets will vary. It would be nice if Acrobat could split these subsets up, discard duplicates, and recombine into a bigger subset. But it doesn't. Aandi _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 10:52:50-GMT,2695;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA10007 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:52:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA24154; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:46:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:45:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24041; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:45:21 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567D0.004018CA.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:44:08 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] Any tips on PDF to DOC? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Avhad, There are tools that extract the plain text information from PDFs I think in Acrobat 4 you are also allowed to extract graphics and kind of richtext (*.RTF) But as far as I know it is a really bad idea trying to convert PDF to something else (e.g. Word). Regards, Laura Dietz Avhad Ankush-FSGA1923 17.08.99 06:44 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] Any tips on PDF to DOC? The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi PDF masters, Is it possible to convert a PDF file to a DOC. file? If so, are there any tools that are needed for the same? Regs./Ankush _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 11:37:38-GMT,1794;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10898 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:37:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27920; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:33:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:31:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27695; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:31:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199908171131.MAA22409@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:8:7 +0000 To: "PDFZONE " From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: [PDF] PDF/INDESIGN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDF/INDESIGN COuld you please tell me if it is possible to get hold of a demo version of Indesign. As i have treid everywhere with no luck. kind regards Stuart --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 12:21:06-GMT,3960;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11837 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:21:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31558; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:15:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:13:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31370; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:13:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199908171213.FAA49117@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:13:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for August-16-99 [V2 #592] From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: egm@pam-mar.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Aandi - you're right about the seps - Quark - pdf.....if the quark file > is distilled with all the hi res stuff chosen and as a composite, the > pdf file should hold all separations. Any for the initial person, if you > use something like the crackerjack plugin - you should be able to access > all seps. > Distiller 4.0 (I've been told by Adobe) should acknowledge even spot > seps but a PS level 3 output device is needed. I have only level > 2...actually I haven't had time to try it. So there you go.... Elaine: This synopsis is not really accurate, or at least is misleading and sounds confusing. One, you can't *distill* a Quark file. Two, you have to print a ps file from any application for Distiller to work. Distiller only converts ps files to PDF. Three, choosing hi-res stuff doesn't affect the color information contained in a PDF file. Four, a PDF file doesn't hold or even contain separations. It is ps, converted into a file format that you can see with Acrobat or Acrobat Reader. It can be composite color, or separated color, if you pre-separated your ps file before distilling. Five, Crackerjack doesn't really allow one to access separations. Crackerjack is a tool which is used to -- in a sense -- breakup PDF files into color plates during the rip or printing process. Six, both Acrobat 3 and 4 allow one to separate spot colors in PDFs via rips that will separate PDFS, or with plug-ins such as Crackerjack or PDF Output Pro. There is another important thing to remember: in Acrobat 3 in order for spot colors to be maintained in the PDF, you must Distill with the epilogue/prologue.ps box checked in the Advanced Tabs. Seven, a PostScript Level 3 device is *not* required to output spot color. It *is* required to output spot color blends and duotones, which is part of the new DeviceN color space specifications contained in PDF 1.3 and Postscript Level 3. Bottom line: * You can maintain and separate spot color in Acrobat 3 or 4, and PostScript Level 2 or 3. * You cannot separate any PDF file without a rip with built-in PDF separating functions, or a plug-in. * To separate a composite PDF with duotones or spot color blends, you need to have used Acrobat 4 to distill the file *and* you need a PostScript Level 3 device to output it to. r|i|c|h _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 12:59:09-GMT,2065;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA12580 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:59:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02832; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:54:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:53:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02727; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:53:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199908171253.FAA53440@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:53:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF/INDESIGN From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: stuart.slaney@william-reed.co.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > COuld you please tell me if it is possible to get hold of a demo version > of Indesign. > > As i have treid everywhere with no luck. You and how many others? You will know when it's available. There will be a feeding frenzy on the lists. This one, by the way, is not the correct list to be asking any questions about InDesign, unless it has something to do with PDF. Try http://www.blueworld.com r|i|c|h _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 13:01:50-GMT,2868;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12665 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:01:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03232; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:57:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:56:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03082; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:56:34 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990817135430.012a7a00@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:54:30 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for August-16-99 [V2 #592] Cc: egm@pam-mar.com In-Reply-To: <199908171213.FAA49117@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 05:13 17/08/99 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: >* To separate a composite PDF with duotones or spot color blends, you need >to have used Acrobat 4 to distill the file *and* you need a PostScript Level >3 device to output it to. ... and you need to have created the blends or duotones using a tool which generates the correct PostScript. Use PhotoShop 5.02 for duotones, and Illustrator 7.01 or later for the grad fills. Spot colour grads created in QuarkXPress and many other applications will not be encoded as spot colours in composite colour PostScript. I'm hoping that this is one issue that XPress 5 will finally fix. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 13:14:36-GMT,2625;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12941 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:14:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04616; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:07:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:06:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04443; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:06:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199908171306.GAA55078@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:06:36 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Spot Color Blends From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > At 05:13 17/08/99 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: >>* To separate a composite PDF with duotones or spot color blends, you need >>to have used Acrobat 4 to distill the file *and* you need a PostScript Level >>3 device to output it to. > Martin Bailey, wrote: > ... and you need to have created the blends or duotones using a tool which > generates the correct PostScript. Use PhotoShop 5.02 for duotones, and > Illustrator 7.01 or later for the grad fills. Spot colour grads created in > QuarkXPress and many other applications will not be encoded as spot colours > in composite colour PostScript. Good points, Martin. > I'm hoping that this is one issue that XPress 5 will finally fix. And how many other issues are there? ...such as, the new Quark PDF filter *still* won't allow one to import Acrobat 4 PDFs. This filter came out months after Acrobat 4 hit the bricks. I've been a Quark user for years, but it certainly is a love-hate relationship. Maybe the InDesign grass will be greener. r|i|c|h _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 13:15:13-GMT,2357;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12965 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:15:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02179; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:49:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:47:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02029; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:47:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199908171247.FAA52848@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:47:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] color blend From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: dench@interlog.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have set up a text block in Quark 4.0 with a smooth colour blend in the > background. from 0% to 100% blue. It looks like a continuous, smooth > transition on the screen in Quark, but when it goes through Distiller the pdf > colour changes are quite discernable - in chunks - not gradual, smooth. I just took an 8 1/2 x 11 page. Set up PMS 072 blue in Quark. Blended from 0 to 100%. Looks just the same in Quark, and in the PDF. I used the Press Optimized settings. I also tried it with Screen Optimized settings, and with various options in Distiller 3. Had no problems. You may e-mail me privately on this matter, and send me a sample PDF file, and I'll see if I can help you walk through this. r|i|c|h _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 13:26:14-GMT,3059;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13226 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:26:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05967; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:20:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:19:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05825; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:19:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199908171319.GAA57028@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:19:09 -0700 Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] Any tips on PDF to DOC? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > There are tools that extract the plain text information from PDFs > I think in Acrobat 4 you are also allowed to extract graphics and kind of > richtext (*.RTF) > > But as far as I know it is a really bad idea trying to convert PDF to > something else (e.g. Word). There are many tools -- with prices all over the place -- which will allow one to extract text and graphic elements from PDF files. You can find these listed at http://www.pdfzone.com. One such tool is Gemini, which will allow you to save the PDF in RTF, TXT and HTML. You can save images as JPGs and TIFFs. For a small amount of work, you can copy and paste text from an Acrobat file into a word processor. For images, you can open the PDF in Photoshop 5.5 or use the arrow tool to highlight the image then hold down the control key (win) or option key (mac) and double-click on the image. This opens the image in single-image pdf format. Simply convert the file type if you need to (rbg > cmyk) and do a Save As in the format of your choice, and you have *extracted* an image from a PDF. I don't know enough about what this gentlemen's needs are to say it's a bad idea. I do know it takes a lot of work, and is not an automated process. But, it *can* be done for the right amount of time and/or money. r|i|c|h > Is it possible to convert a PDF file to a DOC. file? If so, are there any > tools that are needed for the same? > > Regs./Ankush _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 13:35:48-GMT,3046;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13409 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:35:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07334; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:31:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:30:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07125; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:30:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990817142717.012dbda0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:27:17 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] color blend Cc: dench@interlog.com In-Reply-To: <199908171247.FAA52848@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 05:47 17/08/99 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >> I have set up a text block in Quark 4.0 with a smooth colour blend in the >> background. from 0% to 100% blue. It looks like a continuous, smooth >> transition on the screen in Quark, but when it goes through Distiller the pdf >> colour changes are quite discernable - in chunks - not gradual, smooth. > >I just took an 8 1/2 x 11 page. Set up PMS 072 blue in Quark. Blended from 0 >to 100%. Looks just the same in Quark, and in the PDF. It's worth comparing your video settings. If I remember correctly XPress and Acrobat show blends very differently on Windows machines set to 8 or 16 bit colour. They look the same in 24 bit. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 15:14:26-GMT,2096;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15820 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:14:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17664; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:09:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:06:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17330; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:06:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990817100333.006e6b68@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:03:34 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] auto-close feature in 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there an auto close feature for 4.0 like there was in 3.01 ? I remember in 3.01 that after a person opened 10 documents, the eleventh document would open, but only 10 actual PDFs were open. (under the window menu). This is not the case with 4.0, a person could open more than 10... I am not sure on the limit. any insight on this?? Chris Uschan ------------ Digital Resources Manager - OMNIPRESS phone: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 Learn more about us at http://www.omnipress.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 15:31:34-GMT,2033;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16367 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19790; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:27:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:26:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19599; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:26:21 -0500 Message-id: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:33:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] Spot Color Blends To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >And how many other issues are there? > >...such as, the new Quark PDF filter *still* won't allow one to import >Acrobat 4 PDFs. This filter came out months after Acrobat 4 hit the >bricks. >I've been a Quark user for years, but it certainly is a love-hate >relationship. Maybe the InDesign grass will be greener. A Quark QA person I've been working with testing the Quark filter says they're waiting for an updated version of the PDF Library to handle Acrobat 4 more reliably. So it's not all their fault. _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 15:48:11-GMT,2723;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16873 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:48:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21531; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:43:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:42:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21278; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:42:00 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990817084324.009ac450@216.216.8.132> X-Sender: sulojana@216.216.8.132 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:45:27 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sulojana R Blows Subject: Re: [PDF] Any tips on PDF to DOC? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ BCL Computers has a beta version of a plug in that does automatic PDF to RTF conversion, then loads your MS word automatically. Give it a try. www.bcl-computers.com At 01:44 PM 8/17/99 +0800, you wrote: >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Hi PDF masters, > >Is it possible to convert a PDF file to a DOC. file? If so, are there any >tools that are needed for the same? > >Regs./Ankush > > >_ >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> ><- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> >________________________________________________________________ ============================== Sulojana R Blows Marketing BCL Computers 10 E. Juniper Avenue Flagstaff, AZ 86001 fax: 408.249.4046 voice: 520.774.8059 www.bcl-computers.com mailto: sulojana@bcl-computers.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 16:24:41-GMT,1885;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17941 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:24:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25064; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:16:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:13:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24721; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:13:19 -0500 Message-id: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:20:26 +0100 Subject: Re(2): [PDF] PDF/INDESIGN To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, stuart.slaney@william-reed.co.uk From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >You and how many others? > >You will know when it's available. There will be a feeding frenzy on the >lists. This one, by the way, is not the correct list to be asking any >questions about InDesign, unless it has something to do with PDF. > >Try http://www.blueworld.com > >r|i|c|h There's a list for InDesign at blueworld.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 17:35:22-GMT,3085;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22319 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:35:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32678; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:31:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:29:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32399; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:29:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01bee8d3$902d8b80$3980020a@ag9595.agway-internal.com> From: "Sun Sam" To: Subject: [PDF] are there any scrips or ways to extract page automatically Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:11:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEE8B2.08E1EFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-SMTP-HELO: ag9595.agway-internal.com X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: ssun@agway.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: users.agway.com [207.93.119.126] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEE8B2.08E1EFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, all To reduce the file size which is going to be on the web, I need to = reduce the file size to extract all the pages automatically, any body = has done this before or suggestions? 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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEE8B2.08E1EFC0-- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 18:22:04-GMT,1855;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23656 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:22:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05269; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:16:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:14:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05040; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:14:50 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990817131151.006e33c0@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:11:52 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] maximum number of bookmarks in a file??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ is there an answer for this one. The max levels is 20 in a Acrobat 3.x file. Chris Uschan ------------ Digital Resources Manager - OMNIPRESS phone: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 Learn more about us at http://www.omnipress.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 18:30:45-GMT,2477;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23885 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:30:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06918; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:27:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:25:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06668; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:25:56 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990817100333.006e6b68@omnipress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:21:58 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] auto-close feature in 4.0 Cc: Christopher Uschan Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Christopher, the autoclose function is built into Acrobat 4, as far as I could see. I am not quite sure about the maximum open windows, it could be dependent on the available memory, but in my case, I think the limit is at around 20 open windows. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Is there an auto close feature for 4.0 like there was in 3.01 ? I remember >in 3.01 that after a person opened 10 documents, the eleventh document >would open, but only 10 actual PDFs were open. (under the window menu). > >This is not the case with 4.0, a person could open more than 10... I am not >sure on the limit. > _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 20:15:59-GMT,2104;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26720 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:15:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18634; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:12:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:09:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18177; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:09:31 -0500 From: "Tom O'Connor" To: Subject: [PDF] PowerPoint to PDF dropping characters Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:09:31 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi. I've converted a PowerPoint presentation to PDF using PowerPoint 2000 and PDFWriter 4.0. In the resulting PDF file, characters following a lowercase "f" in slide titles (Times New Roman 44) have been dropped. Has this happened to anyone else? Any thoughts on what might be the cause and/or the fix? ---- Tom O'Connor Application Engineer Surety.com, Inc. _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 20:25:06-GMT,1850;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26948 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:25:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19895; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:21:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:19:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19576; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:19:47 -0500 From: Jan_Lemieux@rcruz.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: RCI To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567D0.006F64AF.00@rcruz.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:19:40 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF's in on a Server? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I'd like some information on how I can create PDF's using a print server. Our company uses an AppleShare IP server. Is it possible to create a virtual printer that creates the PDF. All of our images are on this server and it takes a long time to move 500megs of hi-res images over the network. I'm hoping that a solution can be found so that we don't have to do this. Thank You Jan _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 20:34:27-GMT,2528;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27220 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:34:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20967; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:30:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:29:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20783; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:29:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199908172029.NAA51141@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:28:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF's in on a Server? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'd like some information on how I can create PDF's using a print server. > Our company uses an AppleShare IP server. Is it possible to create a > virtual printer that creates the PDF. All of our images are on this server > and it takes a long time to move 500megs of hi-res images over the network. > I'm hoping that a solution can be found so that we don't have to do this. You can download Adobe's Virtual Printer driver from their website. The Virtual Printer will allow you to create a PostScript file on your system, irrespective of the fact that you don't have a ps printer on your machine. Simply make the ps file and distill. If you want to automate the process, set up a watched folder on your hard drive, and with Distiller launched, your ps files will be distilled automatically and placed in an "Out" folder. Any other questions, feel free to e-mail me directly. r|i|c|h _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 20:52:50-GMT,2276;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27745 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:52:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23082; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:47:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:45:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22849; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:45:58 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:50:16 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: K Hindall Subject: [PDF] Rasterizing Japanese fonts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, all! When I first got Acrobat 4.0, I had no problem getting Distiller to rasterize (bitmap) my Japanese fonts. It really annoyed me because it messed up my background graphics. So I spent a couple weeks getting it to use the CIDfonts Distiller includes. Now I *want* it to rasterize the Japanese font, and I can't persuade it to do it! It just keeps telling me that it can't find the PostScript font (which I suppose means it's trying to embed it, even though I specifically ask it to embed "None"). It then substitutes Courier, which of course doesn't work at all. Anyone out there know how I get back to the bitmaps? I suppose I should've mentioned from the start that I'm on a Mac. Thanks for any help you can give me! --K Hindall kkh1@occidens.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 17-Aug-1999 21:24:51-GMT,2594;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28558 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:24:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26476; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:19:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:15:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26141; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:15:53 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6080205@PARAV_SERVER> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Rasterizing Japanese fonts Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:20:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In Japan the legal stand for FONTs is different. One may NOT embed or do anything with the font if the font supplier does NOT allow one to do so. In this case, Acrobat will not "SEE" the Japanese Font.... Rgds/ Vincent WYSIWYG HTML and PDF Capturing.... -----Original Message----- From: K Hindall [mailto:kkh1@occidens.com] When I first got Acrobat 4.0, I had no problem getting Distiller to rasterize (bitmap) my Japanese fonts. It really annoyed me because it messed up my background graphics. So I spent a couple weeks getting it to use the CIDfonts Distiller includes. Now I *want* it to rasterize the Japanese font, and I can't persuade it to do it! It just keeps telling me that it can't find the PostScript font (which I suppose means it's trying to embed it, even though I specifically ask it to embed "None"). It then substitutes Courier, which of course doesn't work at all. Anyone out there know how I get back to the bitmaps? I suppose I should've mentioned from the start that I'm on a Mac. _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 1:22:20-GMT,2503;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04318 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:22:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15686; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:13:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:11:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15400; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:11:37 -0500 X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908171814.NAA05067@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:12:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] are there any scrips or ways to extract page automatically Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Ari's PDF Splitter is a plug-in for Adobe Acrobat that will easily break up your file into fragments. Not only does the interface provide several powerful, easy ways to break up a file, but the plug-in will also adjust links so that they continue working. Extracing pages a group at a time will break any links that lead from one group to another. Instead, use Ari's PDF Splitter, and it makes the adjustments to keep these links working. Also, if you are going to the web, be sure to set the Base URL before you use Ari's PDF Splitter - or in each file that you make by extracting. When you click a link that leads to another file, the BaseURL will tell Acrobat to look for other file back on the web server rather than in the same temp directory that is holding the file you just downloaded. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis http://www.dionis.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 1:50:10-GMT,1650;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04940 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:50:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18540; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:44:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:42:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18365; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:42:50 -0500 Message-ID: <37BA0D5D.4A6FC33E@capt.ac.cn> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:33:17 +0800 From: editor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] question about awards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there someone konw any awards open for desktop and website designers? _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 1:56:43-GMT,2161;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05091 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:56:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19480; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:53:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:52:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19349; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:52:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37BA0D5D.4A6FC33E@capt.ac.cn> References: <37BA0D5D.4A6FC33E@capt.ac.cn> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:56:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: PDFzone Listowner Subject: Re: [PDF] question about awards Cc: editor Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Is there someone konw any awards open for desktop and website designers? This kind of question should be posted to lists, forums and/or newsgroups that specifically deal with Web design, NOT to this list that focuses on Adobe Acrobat and PDF. One place to search for such topical areas is: http://www.deja.com/ Please, no more replies to the list on this off-topic post. If you have suggestions, send them *directly* to the author of the original question. Thanks - PDFzone.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 8:49:11-GMT,1970;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13680 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:49:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18959; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:43:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:42:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18753; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:42:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199908180841.JAA28701@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 9:16:40 +0000 To: "pdf zone" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: [PDF] Illusttartor files in pdf's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Illusttartor files in pdf's Hello all hope every one is well, Occassionally when I distill Quark pages with illustrator files in, on my mac using distiller 4 when the pdfs are put out to film for printing by our printers parts of the illustrator files come out in the wrong colours. any suggestions kind regards Ian --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 10:06:02-GMT,1970;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA15190 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:06:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA24041; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:00:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:58:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA23930; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:58:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199908180958.KAA28966@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:51:0 +0000 To: "pdf zone" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: [PDF] Illusttartor files in pdf's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Illusttartor files in pdf's Hello all hope every one is well, Occassionally when I distill Quark pages with illustrator files in, on my mac using distiller 4 when the pdfs are put out to film for printing by our printers parts of the illustrator files come out in the wrong colours. any suggestions kind regards Ian --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 12:30:35-GMT,1925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17962 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:30:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02297; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:23:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:20:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01870; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:20:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jo Crawford To: "'PDF'" Subject: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:19:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm trying to insert a PDF in a Word document, as an imbedded object (not linked to the file). It displays as an icon in the document. That much works fine. However when I double-click on the icon, I get an Acrobat Reader dialog telling me there was an error opening the document - a file read error, and it won't open it. Any suggestions? Jo Crawford jc@alphametrics.co.uk _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 12:32:21-GMT,1990;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17999 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:32:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02704; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:28:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:26:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02476; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:26:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199908181226.FAA32985@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:26:08 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Illustrator Changing Colors From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: stuart.slaney@william-reed.co.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Occassionally when I distill Quark pages with illustrator files in, on my > mac using distiller 4 when the pdfs are put out to film for printing by > our printers parts of the illustrator files come out in the wrong colours. Wrong colors as in how? Please describe the original colors and what they change to. r|i|c|h _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 12:50:37-GMT,2106;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18379 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:50:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04354; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:45:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:43:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04136; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:43:18 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6080205@PARAV_SERVER> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:47:40 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: K Hindall Subject: RE: [PDF] Rasterizing Japanese fonts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >In Japan the legal stand for FONTs is different. >One may NOT embed or do anything with the font if the font supplier does NOT >allow one to do so. > >In this case, Acrobat will not "SEE" the Japanese Font.... This cannot be the case. I *HAVE* bitmapped this exact font, from the same application (FrameMaker) that I am using now. I did it about eight weeks ago (I no longer have the file--at the time, it wasn't what I was going for). The problem is finding the settings that did it before. --K Hindall kkh1@occidens.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 12:54:46-GMT,2301;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18463 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:54:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05046; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:51:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:48:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04664; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:48:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199908181248.FAA35650@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:48:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: JC@alphametrics.co.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'm trying to insert a PDF in a Word document, as an imbedded object (not > linked to the file). It displays as an icon in the document. That much works > fine. However when I double-click on the icon, I get an Acrobat Reader > dialog telling me there was an error opening the document - a file read > error, and it won't open it. Jo: I just tried this technique using Word 97 on a win machine. I purposely distilled the PDF file in Acrobat 4, with 3x compatibility. Worked fine for me. How are you creating the PDF that won't open? Do you have Reader 3 or 4 on your machine? And what is the compatibility level of the original PDF? r|i|c|h _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 13:38:37-GMT,1878;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19351 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:38:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09036; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:31:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:28:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08657; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:28:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jo Crawford To: "'PDF'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:27:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm creating it with PDFWriter set to 3.0 compatibility. I get the same result whether I try to open it on my PC (Reader 4) or a colleagues' (Reader 3). Jo > How are you creating the PDF that won't open? Do you have Reader 3 or 4 on > your machine? And what is the compatibility level of the original PDF? > > > r|i|c|h _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 13:44:45-GMT,2419;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19483 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:44:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10064; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:41:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:40:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09864; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:40:23 -0500 From: "Tom O'Connor" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PowerPoint to PDF dropping characters Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:40:24 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I've converted a PowerPoint presentation to PDF using PowerPoint 2000 and > PDFWriter 4.0. > In the resulting PDF file, characters following a lowercase "f" in slide > titles (Times New Roman 44) have been dropped. > > Has this happened to anyone else? Any thoughts on what might be the cause > and/or the fix? After some more experiments, it seems that any Times New Roman font greater than size 36 from any Office 2000 application will drop characters in PDF after a lowercase "f" Has anyone else seen this behavior? Can anyone offer an explanation? ---- Tom O'Connor Application Engineer Surety.com, Inc. _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 10-Aug-1999 18:27:44-GMT,2177;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06685 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:27:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13087; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:23:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:19:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12563; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:19:52 -0500 Message-ID: <9635C96E792BD311B5240004ACB8C7DD025722@mailex.inso.ca> From: Leo Ferraro To: "'pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] TEST!!! Ignore Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:17:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA12558 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Test only Thank you... __________________INSO________http://www.inso.ca Leo Ferraro Integrator/Consultant "Graphic Arts Industry" INSO 6615 Avenue Parc Montréal, Québec, Canada, H2V 4J1 tel/phone: (514) 271-4676 #3348 telec/fax: (514) 271-2950 cell: (514) 816-7617 E-mail: lferraro@inso.ca ****************************************** Learn as if you will live forever Live as if you will die tomorrow _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 15:02:15-GMT,1831;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21456 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20139; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:53:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:52:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19815; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:52:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199908181451.PAA00475@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:43:57 +0000 To: "pdf zone" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: [PDF] Illusttartor files in pdf's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Illusttartor files in pdf's Rich i have recieved oyur last email but it had got currupt could you send it again, with regards illustrator file colours in pdf going wrong cheers Ian --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 16:08:33-GMT,2124;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23391 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:08:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29636; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:55:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:53:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29255; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:53:18 -0500 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:57:07 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: Re: [PDF] Illustrator files in pdf's Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Stuart, Rich Sprague with all his experience will probably set you straight. However, in the mean time, have you checked the Illustrator file to make sure that you are working with CMYK and spot colours rather than RGB settings. My preferred printing route is Illustrator to Xpress and so far I've had no problems. Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 17:28:32-GMT,2994;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25646 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:28:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09359; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:20:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:16:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08820; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:16:45 -0500 Message-ID: <37BAEE04.38C46A5F@bc1.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:31:48 -0700 From: Neal Chan Organization: Netpac Communications Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Illustrator files in pdf's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Angus, Good to see you get more involved with the list, I'm going to phone you in few minutes, re your ok to use some of your pdf files as free downloads on the new http://www.etravel.com site (new as of yesterday) cheers, Neal Angus Weller wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Stuart, Rich Sprague with all his experience will probably set you straight. > > However, in the mean time, have you checked the Illustrator file to make > sure that you are working with CMYK and spot colours rather than RGB > settings. > > My preferred printing route is Illustrator to Xpress and so far I've had no > problems. > > Angus > > ************************************* > > Angus Weller > 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, > Nanaimo, B.C., > Canada, V9S 3P8 > > Tel: (250) 729-7292 > > e-mail: weller@axion.net or > travel-media@bc1.com > > Internet store: www.travel-media.com > > ************************************* > > _ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> > <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 19:29:47-GMT,5949;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29011 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:29:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26268; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:19:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:17:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26001; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:17:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199908181916.PAA19200@smtp2.mindspring.com> Subject: [PDF] EPS export from Acrobat 3.0 vs Acrobat 4.0 testing results Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:15:22 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, Michael Jahn, Agfas PDF Evangelist here. how y'all been. I recently did a little bit of "testing" as it relates to exporting EPS files from Acrobat 3.0 vs 4.0 - and thought i would share my findings - pre-appology - sorry if this has been "covered" already, or if this "color seperation" sort of details is of no interest to many of you. - specific things i was looking to determine reating to overprint settings (being retained or not) and spot colors (being retained or not) and the differences between; Acrobat 3 PostScript level 1 encoded eps export Acrobat 3 PostScript level 2 encoded eps export Acrobat 4 PostScript level 1 encoded eps export Acrobat 4 PostScript level 2 encoded eps export I placed all 4 into a Quark page and printed this with seperations on, and then Distilled that PostScript - the result being set of seperated pages in a single PDF file. the result can be downloaded from; http://www.jahn.org/pdf_x/QXDwAcro34epsSeps.pdf the name "QXDwAcro34epsSeps" is my messy shorthand for Quark Xpress Document with Acrobat 3 and 4 eps with Seperations on as a PDF file - this file is about 68k, was built by me, and can be used without permission - the original composite PDF that these eps files were created fom is at; http://www.jahn.org/pdf_x/AiEPSDIstillOpOn.pdf This PDF was distilled using Acrobat Distiller 4.0, with a modification on the Press Optimised job option settings - while i keep the "Preserve Overprint Settings" on, I make sure the "Preserve Halftone Information" off, as i had heard from Peter Svderlund at Enfocus that this created a few "issues" and Halftone information was neither present or required. i built an Adobe Illustrator file and placed it into Quark and turned seperations on (so i would have my "control" file - you know, so i could see "how it is supposed to work") this file can be found (also as a set of seperated pages in a single PDF file) at; http://www.jahn.org/pdf_x/QuarkSepsOn.pdf so, i built an illustrator file, and distilled it, then checked to see if the overprint settings were there using Enfocus PitStop...which reported everything as i expected and set up in Illustrator...in fact, they are there as well even when i "Save as PDF (using the Press Optimised selection) from Adobe Illustrator 8.0. ...so i then exported to eps (from Acrobat Exchange 3.0.1 and acrobat 4.0 - the 3.0 Level 1 eps behaved fine.... Acrobat 3 PostScript level 1 encoded eps export - GOOD Acrobat 3 PostScript level 2 encoded eps export - BAD - Composite color on each seperation Acrobat 4 PostScript level 1 encoded eps export - BAD - Overprint Settings messed up Acrobat 4 PostScript level 2 encoded eps export - BAD - Overprint Settings messed up so - I built an Illustrator file saved as eps Distilled using 4.0 (with only the Press Optimised and Preserve Overprint Settings on) Opened this PDF in Acrobat 4.0 AND Acrobat Exchange 3.0.1 Exported to EPS Level 1 and 2 Placed both the Level 1 and 2 exports from both Acrobat Exchange 3.0 and Acrobat 4 (this is 4 diferent files) in a Quark document Printed this with seperations on. my findings; In Acrobat Exchange 3.0, when you save the EPS using Level 1, Acrobat Exchange 3.0 will export acurate overprint settings when you export eps - and this same eps will seperate as you expect from Quark. Saving with Level 2 will place 4 color on each plate when seps are turned on in Quark, so... So, the ANSWER seems to be to use Acrobat exchange version 3.0.1 to export PDF files to EPS if you want to retain the acurate overprint settings and be able to either re-distill these eps files or place them into Quark and have them seperate. every other method i tried failed when placing these eps files in Quark Xpress. PLEASE - if i have missed something, or am doing something i should not be doing - or am NOT doing something i should be doing - PLEASE ADVISE! Distilling with 4.0 does not seem to effect this problem - it seems to happen only when i export eps from Acrobat 4.0 that the overprint settings seem to get "lost". so, from my perspective - i have confirmed using Acrobat 4.0 to export is a problem...any ideas are welcome. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 21:54:41-GMT,1961;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03178 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:54:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13147; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:47:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:43:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12698; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:43:26 -0500 Message-ID: <001101bee9c2$c7a4dbf0$a885d0d1@PLATO> From: Yazan@UNET.net (Fahmawi, Yazan) To: Subject: [PDF] Window size? Please? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:43:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2918.2701 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2918.2701 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there anyway to control the window size of PDF files opened the same way you can control the aspects of a web browser (i.e. size in pixels, toolbars, resizable, etc.)? Does anyone have any suggestions, either using Javascript or the Open Document properties? Thanks, Yazan _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 22:13:22-GMT,2946;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03686 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:13:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15806; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:09:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:08:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15649; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:08:23 -0500 Message-ID: <002801bee9c6$a053de80$51015ed1@ferguson> From: "Jerry W. Ferguson" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:11:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ More than likely, you are moving the Word file and the link to the PDF file has changed. Is this right? If so, the best solution might be to keep the 2 files in the same folder. I hope this helps. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Jo Crawford To: 'PDF' Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I'm creating it with PDFWriter set to 3.0 compatibility. I get the same > result whether I try to open it on my PC (Reader 4) or a colleagues' (Reader > 3). > > Jo > > > > How are you creating the PDF that won't open? Do you have Reader 3 or 4 on > > your machine? And what is the compatibility level of the original PDF? > > > > > > r|i|c|h > _ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> > <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 18-Aug-1999 22:26:24-GMT,2479;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04018 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:26:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17638; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:22:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:21:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17377; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:21:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990818182538.008fd290@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:25:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: [PDF] Links question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I recently had to shuffle the pages in a small PDF for a client. Thinks: No problem, view thumbnails, click, drag, done. Wrong. Or rather, the pages reordered themselves nicely, but all of the Next and Previous links now pointed not to the new Next or Previous page, but to the page that *had* been Next or Previous before the re-ordering. Did that make ANY sense whatever? If not, ask. Anyhow, to clear up what appears to be a misunderstanding on my part, is it fair to say that Distiller resolves Next/Previous links into specific page links at distill time? (These links, by the way, were all created via PDFmark code in EPS files I'd embedded in the source document.) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 12-Aug-1999 22:56:49-GMT,3547;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17170 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:56:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25491; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:51:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:50:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25295; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:50:07 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990812153105.00ab4a80@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:49:04 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] UPDATE: Windows'9X & Windows 2000 PostScript Drivers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ FrameMaker & PDF Forum Readers: This is an UPDATE to email I sent out on July 16 and July 21 plus some new information of interest to persons who will be upgrading Windows NT 4 systems to Windows 2000. AdobePS 4.3 Bug =============== Adobe's PostScript driver development group has isolated the code and has fixed the code that caused the crashes and hangs in programs that utilized the driver PostScript passthrough facility to output EPS graphics in the output stream and/or PDF data (FrameMaker's "generate Acrobat data" feature and the PDFMaker macro for Microsoft Word, as examples). The fix will be in a driver maintenance release, AdobePS 4.3.1, currently being tested at Adobe with a projected September or October release date. I will report back to these forums when we have an availability date for AdobePS 4.3.1 on the Adobe web site. Windows 2000 PostScript Driver ============================== As more than one user has noticed and has privately communicated to me, the AdobePS 5.x drivers for Windows NT 4 do NOT install under Windows 2000. (Yes, I know that it isn't officially released. But anyone with a few dollars can now officially buy the Beta 3 or Release Candidate 1 CDROM of Windows 2000 as an evaluation version from Microsoft. And some of you are trying it out already.) This is by design. Internal font handling mechanisms of Windows 2000 are significantly different than for Windows NT 4, for example. The standard PostScript driver that will ship with Windows 2000 is in fact an updated version of what is available as AdobePS 5.1 for Windows NT 4, the result of a long term joint driver project between Adobe and Microsoft. There is no plan at this time to ship a separate AdobePS for Windows 2000. - Dov _ _____________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * ________________ <- All the latest Acrobat/PDF tools, tips & news -- and a new look -> <- Article: 'What Can One _Do_ with PDF?' http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> _____________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 8:19:15-GMT,1941;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17871 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:19:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04241; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:15:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:13:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04070; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:13:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jo Crawford To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:11:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, I am moving the Word file. But the PDF is embedded not linked - so that shouldn't make a difference, should it? Jo jc@alphametrics.co.uk > More than likely, you are moving the Word file and the link to the PDF > file > has changed. Is this right? If so, the best solution might be to keep > the > 2 files in the same folder. I hope this helps. > > Jerry > _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 9:22:03-GMT,3074;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19011 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:22:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08450; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:18:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:16:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08283; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:16:10 -0500 From: "Lars Hřj" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:12:49 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Best way to find out is not to move it and try to see if you can open it... ;-) Kind regards Lars Hoej LARS HOEJ Informatik Baunestien 4 - DK-3460 Birkeroed - Denmark Tel: +45 4582 8500 - Fax: +45 4582 85 01 mailto:lars@lhi.dk - http://www.lhi.dk -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Jo Crawford Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 10:12 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ ____________________________________________________________ ______ Yes, I am moving the Word file. But the PDF is embedded not linked - so that shouldn't make a difference, should it? Jo jc@alphametrics.co.uk > More than likely, you are moving the Word file and the link to the PDF > file > has changed. Is this right? If so, the best solution might be to keep > the > 2 files in the same folder. I hope this helps. > > Jerry > _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.ht ml -> ____________________________________________________________ ____ _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 9:38:53-GMT,1885;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19350 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:38:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09652; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:34:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:33:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09557; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:33:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199908190933.KAA04936@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:5:6 +0000 To: "PDFZONE " From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: [PDF] ADS FILES IN PDFS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ADS FILES IN PDFS Hello all Can any one tell me if ADS files in a pdf workflow have any problems. Such as: bringing an ADS file into Quark and then postscripting/distiling. And also is there anything else i need to know. many thanks Staurt Slaney --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 12:45:53-GMT,4103;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23015 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:45:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23791; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:41:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:40:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23544; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:39:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:39:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dan Buettner/Nicole Cable Subject: [PDF] REMOVE my address from your list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA23540 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: "Lars HŻj" >To: >Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:12:49 +0200 >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >Importance: Normal >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html >X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com > > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Best way to find out is not to move it and try to see if you >can open it... ;-) > >Kind regards > >Lars Hoej > >LARS HOEJ Informatik >Baunestien 4 - DK-3460 Birkeroed - Denmark >Tel: +45 4582 8500 - Fax: +45 4582 85 01 >mailto:lars@lhi.dk - http://www.lhi.dk > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >[mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On >Behalf Of Jo Crawford >Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 10:12 AM >To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word > > > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | >http://www.pdfzone.com/ >____________________________________________________________ >______ > >Yes, I am moving the Word file. But the PDF is embedded not >linked - so that >shouldn't make a difference, should it? > >Jo > >jc@alphametrics.co.uk > > > > More than likely, you are moving the Word file and the >link to the PDF > > file > > has changed. Is this right? If so, the best solution >might be to keep > > the > > 2 files in the same folder. I hope this helps. > > > > Jerry > > >_ >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * >_________________ ><- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to >Acrobat/PDF -> ><- SEE: >http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.ht >ml -> >____________________________________________________________ >____ > >_ >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> ><- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> >________________________________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Buettner & Nicole Cable mailto:nickndan@earthlink.net --------------------------------------------------------------- Intel's advertising agency is an all-Apple shop with over 600 Macs used to create ad content. _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 12:45:55-GMT,3020;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23022 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:45:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23792; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:41:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:39:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23491; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:39:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:39:13 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dan Buettner/Nicole Cable Subject: [PDF] REMOVE my address from your list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: Jo Crawford >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:11:41 +0100 >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html >X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com > > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Yes, I am moving the Word file. But the PDF is embedded not linked - so that >shouldn't make a difference, should it? > >Jo > >jc@alphametrics.co.uk > > > > More than likely, you are moving the Word file and the link to the PDF > > file > > has changed. Is this right? If so, the best solution might be to keep > > the > > 2 files in the same folder. I hope this helps. > > > > Jerry > > >_ >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> ><- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> >________________________________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Buettner & Nicole Cable mailto:nickndan@earthlink.net --------------------------------------------------------------- Intel's advertising agency is an all-Apple shop with over 600 Macs used to create ad content. _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 12:45:56-GMT,2951;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23024 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:45:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23790; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:41:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:39:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23517; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:39:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:39:27 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dan Buettner/Nicole Cable Subject: [PDF] REMOVE my address from your list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:5:6 +0000 >To: "PDFZONE " >From: "Stuart Slaney" >Subject: [PDF] ADS FILES IN PDFS >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html >X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com > > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >ADS FILES IN PDFS >Hello all > >Can any one tell me if ADS files in a pdf workflow have any problems. >Such as: bringing an ADS file into Quark and then postscripting/distiling. >And also is there anything else i need to know. > >many thanks Staurt Slaney > > >--Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- >_ >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> ><- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> >________________________________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Buettner & Nicole Cable mailto:nickndan@earthlink.net --------------------------------------------------------------- Intel's advertising agency is an all-Apple shop with over 600 Macs used to create ad content. _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 14:14:27-GMT,1871;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25034 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:14:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00871; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:07:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:05:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00572; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:05:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:08:54 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: PDFzone Listowner Subject: Re: [PDF] REMOVE my address - GONE! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > REMOVE my address Sorry, folks. These careless, bloated posts should now cease. The originating address has been removed from the list. No further replies to the list about this, please. - PDFzone.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 14:30:38-GMT,2700;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25432 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:30:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02943; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:26:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:25:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02729; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:25:31 -0500 Message-ID: <37BC1439.1A70A1CB@technickenormy.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:27:05 +0200 From: "Dusan Baranec, Normex s.r.o." Organization: Normex l.t.d. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, My plaform is Win95, I use Distiler 4.0 and I produce *.pdf files form tiff or text *.ps files. There are no problems with tiff *.ps files (documents contains only scanned pictures with little of text). I've met problems when I converted pure text *.ps file created in MS Word 95 (I used postscript driver for laser printer HP 5L): part of a text, single words or sentences doesn't appear to be like text around. They look like bitmap text with no smooth edges. If I select such word or sentence, copy and paste it to text editor, I can only see "tttttttttttttttttttttttttt". Such defects you can notice very easy - viewing of these parts is slow. Can anybody explain it ? (I think there is something wrong with MS Word, but I do not know what) Thanks. -- S pozdravom Ing. Baranec ----------------------------------------------------- Normex l.t.d., information systems and digital documents Pri strelnici 77 949 01 Nitra, Slovakia tel/fax: 00 421 7 5292 5562, mobil: 00 421 905 616 846 mailto:baranec@technickenormy.com http://www.technickenormy.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 14:38:52-GMT,2523;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25685 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:38:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04175; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:35:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:33:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04061; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:33:30 -0500 Message-ID: <37BC1795.5479DF9@pre-print.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:41:57 -0600 From: Gunnar Blodgett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? References: <37BC1439.1A70A1CB@technickenormy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Good afternoon. > I've met problems when I converted pure text *.ps file created in MS > Word 95 (I used postscript driver for laser printer HP 5L): part of a > text, single words or sentences doesn't appear to be like text around. > They look like bitmap text with no smooth edges. If I select such word > or sentence, copy and paste it to text editor, I can only see > "tttttttttttttttttttttttttt". > I've never gotten Word for Win to generate PostScript; it generates something, but it's never been too palatable for Distiller. > (I think there is something wrong with MS Word, but I do not know what) > We're supposed to be nice about specific manufacturers on this list, so I am not permitted to respond. -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett Production Analyst Pre Print, Inc. (780) 488-6688 x 338 _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 14:54:17-GMT,2457;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26202 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:54:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05833; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:50:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:48:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05667; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:48:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199908191448.HAA25918@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:48:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: baranec@technickenormy.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > My plaform is Win95, I use Distiler 4.0 and I produce *.pdf files form > tiff or text *.ps files. There are no problems with tiff *.ps files > (documents contains only scanned pictures with little of text). > I've met problems when I converted pure text *.ps file created in MS > Word 95 (I used postscript driver for laser printer HP 5L): part of a > text, single words or sentences doesn't appear to be like text around. > They look like bitmap text with no smooth edges. If I select such word > or sentence, copy and paste it to text editor, I can only see > "tttttttttttttttttttttttttt". > Such defects you can notice very easy - viewing of these parts is slow. Make sure you are using the Distiller Printer and don't use Type 3 PS fonts. They *will* be fuzzy in PDF files. r|i|c|h _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 15:47:25-GMT,2948;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27614 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12746; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:41:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:39:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12369; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:39:22 -0500 From: "Lars Hoj" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Links question Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:36:05 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I has always been my understanding, that the reorganisation made possible in Acrobat does nothing more than just 'showing' the pages in a different order - so links etc. will not be adjusted. Kind regards Lars Hoej LARS HOEJ Informatik Baunestien 4 - DK-3460 Birkeroed - Denmark Tel: +45 4582 8500 - Fax: +45 4582 85 01 mailto:lars@lhi.dk - http://www.lhi.dk -----Original Message----- I recently had to shuffle the pages in a small PDF for a client. Thinks: No problem, view thumbnails, click, drag, done. Wrong. Or rather, the pages reordered themselves nicely, but all of the Next and Previous links now pointed not to the new Next or Previous page, but to the page that *had* been Next or Previous before the re-ordering. Did that make ANY sense whatever? If not, ask. Anyhow, to clear up what appears to be a misunderstanding on my part, is it fair to say that Distiller resolves Next/Previous links into specific page links at distill time? (These links, by the way, were all created via PDFmark code in EPS files I'd embedded in the source document.) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 17:56:19-GMT,1983;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01421 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:56:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27765; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:48:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:43:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27357; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:43:56 -0500 From: SandyHov@aol.com Message-ID: <80f8fa9b.24ed9c43@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:43:31 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try writing to file from the Print menu using a PostScript printer driver. When we've done this, it has create a *.PRN file that Distiller opened and turned into a PDF with no problems. But we're still using 3.x, haven't upgraded to 4.x (have it, still in the box...) Sandy Hovatter Data Designs _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 19:10:38-GMT,2586;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03440 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03634; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:03:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:01:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03179; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:00:58 -0500 Message-ID: <37BC53FF.E2B9FA89@vdiprinting.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:59:30 -0500 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? References: <80f8fa9b.24ed9c43@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ SandyHov@aol.com wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > something, but it's never been too palatable for Distiller.> > > Try writing to file from the Print menu using a PostScript printer driver. > When we've done this, it has create a *.PRN file that Distiller opened and > turned into a PDF with no problems. But we're still using 3.x, haven't > upgraded to 4.x (have it, still in the box...) > > Sandy Hovatter > Data Designs > _ Also, once you create a .prn file, when you go to open it into Distiller, by default it will look for a .ps file. You will need to change the drop down menu to look for "All files". We regularly create PDF for film output from Word using the .prn file. _ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 20:45:01-GMT,3821;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06061 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:44:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12330; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:30:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:23:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11898; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:23:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Caching FDF in Adobe Acrobat PDF 4.0 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:27:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEEA81.3624192E" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEA81.3624192E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone noticed that when a PDF form is populated with FDF data, that data apparently gets cached on the client along with the PDF file itself. This presents a problem because we require our users to click a button to retrieve the latest FDF data from our database. If the user sees that data is already populated in the form, they may think the data is already updated. This seemed to pop up with Acrobat 4.0. Is there a way to force FDF data not to be stored on the client? We're looking for a way that wouldn't require that our users change any settings. Robert V Porter IV Senior Applications Developer Renaissance Interactive, Inc. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEA81.3624192E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Caching FDF in Adobe Acrobat PDF 4.0

Has anyone noticed that when a PDF form is populated = with FDF data, that data apparently gets cached on the client along = with the PDF file itself.  This presents a problem because we = require our users to click a button to retrieve the latest FDF data = from our database.  If the user sees that data is already = populated in the form, they may think the data is already = updated.  This seemed to pop up with Acrobat 4.0.  Is there a = way to force FDF data not to be stored on the client?  We're = looking for a way that wouldn't require that our users change any = settings.

Robert V Porter IV
Senior Applications Developer
Renaissance Interactive, Inc.

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEA81.3624192E-- -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 20:54:51-GMT,2845;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06426 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:54:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13177; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:37:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:34:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12888; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:34:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:13:33 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] NEW - Rich Sprague column posted, new job announced Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ A new article by contributing writer Rich Sprague is now posted on the PDFzone.com Web site. The second installment of his bi-weekly column, titled "Choosing the Proper Settings in Acrobat Distiller 4.0," examines the new default Job Options settings. To simplify the production of PDFs for specific uses, Adobe designated three standard settings, each which can be customized and saved. Follow the link from the homepage to the illustrated, two-part article. _____ NEWSFLASH: Rich on the Move _____ Finally, PDFzone.com wishes to publicly congratulate Rich on his upcoming career move. He's accepted an offer to become Sales Manager at InfoMania Printing & Pre-Press in Rancho Cordova, California. His new employer is Tom Mornini, a staunch supporter of and leader in prepress applications of Acrobat and PDF. Rich will assume his new position on September 3rd, following participation in the Adobe Acrobat Developer's Conference in San Jose, and in PDF Day at the Seybold '99 conference in San Francisco. FYI> Rich adds that he'll continue contributing to the email discussion lists, and writing articles and reviews. rgds ~ Kurt ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 21:15:08-GMT,3202;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07213 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:15:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16333; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:08:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:05:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16140; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:05:44 -0500 Message-ID: <37BC7190.64A52644@adobe.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:05:21 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Caching FDF in Adobe Acrobat PDF 4.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The following may explain this behavior: "Can’t Reset my Form in the Browser" Q: I have a document-level Javascript that calls the resetForm method. The very first time that the form opens in the browser, this method executes correctly and the form gets reset. But anytime after that, when the form reopens, it still contains the old data, as if the resetForm method was not working. What’s going on? A: Actually, resetForm is working. But then it gets overwritten. Let me explain. After an Acrobat form opens in the browser and is then modified, if you then leave that web page to go to a different URL, Acrobat saves a temp FDF with the most current field values. If you then go back to your Acrobat form (using the browser's “go back” button, or because your web workflow takes you back to it), Acrobat loads the temp FDF so that the form will look just like it did when you last left it. As it turns out, the moment the form opens, its document-level Javascripts (if any) execute, and this happens before the temp FDF is loaded. To illustrate: suppose you have a form with a field “foo” in it. The field “foo” has no initial value, but there is a document-level script whose contents are: this.getField("foo").value = 7; so the moment you open the form, “foo” has a value of 7. If you open this hypothetical form in the browser, then change “foo” to 9, and then go to another web page, and then come back, “foo” will be 9, not 7. All temp FDFs get deleted when Acrobat exits. -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 22:06:41-GMT,1735;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08449 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:06:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22099; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:59:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:56:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21751; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:56:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199908192154.RAA204406@chickasaw.gate.net> From: "John Eric Burg" To: Subject: [PDF] remove address from your list Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:52:43 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ please, remove my email address from your list. This is the second request. Thanks Cecile twco@gate.net -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 22:06:42-GMT,2349;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08453 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:06:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22532; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:01:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:00:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22250; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:00:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990819180453.008a73f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:04:53 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? In-Reply-To: <37BC1439.1A70A1CB@technickenormy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >My plaform is Win95, I use Distiler 4.0 and I produce *.pdf files form >tiff or text *.ps files. There are no problems with tiff *.ps files >(documents contains only scanned pictures with little of text). >I've met problems when I converted pure text *.ps file created in MS >Word 95 (I used postscript driver for laser printer HP 5L): Have you tried Distiller Assistant instead of the HP driver? I'm still on Acrobat 3, but haven't seen any problems similar to this from Word. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 22:06:47-GMT,2172;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08465 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:06:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22755; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:02:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:01:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22497; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:01:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990819180609.008a6a70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:06:09 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Links question In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >I has always been my understanding, that the reorganisation >made possible in Acrobat does nothing more than just >'showing' the pages in a different order - so links etc. >will not be adjusted. > CLICK The light bulb just went on. Thanks! Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 22:07:52-GMT,2150;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08488 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:07:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23032; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:04:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:03:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22845; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:03:36 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990819180809.008a6a70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:08:09 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? In-Reply-To: <80f8fa9b.24ed9c43@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Try writing to file from the Print menu using a PostScript printer driver. >When we've done this, it has create a *.PRN file Instead of typing Myfile or Myfile.PS when prompted for a file name, type "Myfile.PS" In other words, type the file name in quotes and Word will stop this silliness. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-1999 22:13:52-GMT,3101;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08644 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:13:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23920; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:10:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:09:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23769; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:09:39 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01beea8f$fd4a9920$c6035ed1@ferguson> From: "Jerry W. Ferguson" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:12:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ After trying this last night, it didn't seem to make any difference. Sorry. What version of Word are you using? I tried it with 2000 and 97 at work and there was no problem. I assume the pdf file opens fine by itself? Maybe the best solution is to link to the file and just distribute the files together. --Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Jo Crawford To: Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 4:11 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Yes, I am moving the Word file. But the PDF is embedded not linked - so that > shouldn't make a difference, should it? > > Jo > > jc@alphametrics.co.uk > > > > More than likely, you are moving the Word file and the link to the PDF > > file > > has changed. Is this right? If so, the best solution might be to keep > > the > > 2 files in the same folder. I hope this helps. > > > > Jerry > > > _ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- PDF Showcase: Furniture company credits cost savings to Acrobat/PDF -> > <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pdf-furnishings.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 0:41:21-GMT,2086;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12119 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:41:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05562; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:37:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:35:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05360; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:35:22 -0500 Message-ID: <001001beeaa3$e26cc2e0$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: Subject: [PDF] Does a WPD to PDF batch converter exist? Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:35:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA05354 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have approx. 6000, maybe more, Wordperfect 6.1 files we want to convert to PDF. Is there a conversion utility that could do this? I've done some research on the web but haven't found anything as yet. Help! Kim -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 4:59:05-GMT,1895;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17601 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:59:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27284; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:53:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:52:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27161; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:52:27 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF/INDESIGN Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:41:44 +0530 Message-ID: <01beeaca$7ec3b100$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We just launched InDesign in India this week at the local IFRA show. Its not yet available for sale. But we were giving demos on a pre-release version. Is there something specific you want to check? khullar -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 4:59:12-GMT,2252;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17607 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:59:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26996; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:51:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:48:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26769; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:48:32 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] EPS export from Acrobat 3.0 vs Acrobat 4.0 testing results Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:37:48 +0530 Message-ID: <01beeac9$f2671300$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi mike That was a great effort. Sorry, I could not thank you earlier for the help. I am unable to actually confirm the results as I have already thrashed the older Acrobat from the hard-disk. I think we now have to do a similar experiment for 1) True-Type fonts. When it works when it does not. 2) White text 3) Other known problems The idea is, can we come up with a recommendation for Ad-agencies? Recommendation for workflow which will work full-proof(?). Even in the worst case scenario (PSL1 Rips). khullar -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 5:02:11-GMT,1892;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17708 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:02:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27717; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:58:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:57:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27648; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:57:41 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Overprint Stteings Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:46:57 +0530 Message-ID: <01beeacb$3990e390$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Mike has cracked this one. It seems if you export EPS (PSL1) from Acrobat Exchange 3.01, the overprint settings are maintained. The culprit is Acrobat 4, which goofs up the overprint settings. khullar -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 7:18:39-GMT,3884;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20796 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:18:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04082; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:13:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:11:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA03861; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:11:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199908200711.IAA10310@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 7:45:53 +0000 To: " pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF/INDESIGN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ RE>>[PDF] PDF/INDESIGN 20/8/99 I would like to check out the demoe version as a whole but i cannot get hold of a demo for love nore money can you help kindvregards stuart -------------------------------------- Date: 20/8/99 7:38 am To: Stuart Slaney From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We just launched InDesign in India this week at the local IFRA show. Its not yet available for sale. But we were giving demos on a pre-release version. Is there something specific you want to check? khullar -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ [Message ID: -1276987772] [Internet header:] Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by barsac.ipl.co.uk (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA22960 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:57:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27179; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:52:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:52:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27161; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:52:27 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF/INDESIGN Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:41:44 +0530 Message-ID: <01beeaca$7ec3b100$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 8:24:54-GMT,2786;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22218 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:24:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08306; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:19:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:17:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08185; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:17:11 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567D3.0032616B.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:16:09 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Embedding PDF in Word Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm not sure, but maybe this one helps you. In Word95 there exist 3 kinds of links: only link, embed with link for updates, embed without linkinformation. Maybe you took the 2nd way. If you have the option "update fields on startup" (<-- free translation from german) enabled, Word will update all fields and graphics. Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== > Yes, I am moving the Word file. But the PDF is embedded not linked - so that > shouldn't make a difference, should it? > > Jo > > jc@alphametrics.co.uk > > > > More than likely, you are moving the Word file and the link to the PDF > > file > > has changed. Is this right? If so, the best solution might be to keep > > the > > 2 files in the same folder. I hope this helps. > > > > Jerry > > -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 8:25:09-GMT,2345;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22235 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:25:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08639; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:22:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:20:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08365; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:20:58 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567D3.00331E3F.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:19:57 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? - prn files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Mattew, Also, once you create a .prn file, when you go to open it into Distiller, by default it will look for a .ps file. You will need to change the drop down menu to look for "All files". Try drag and drop - Distiller takes all files that begin with %%PS :-) Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 8:31:45-GMT,2835;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22372 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09072; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:28:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:27:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09005; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:27:22 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567D3.0033509B.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:26:24 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Dusan, I've met problems when I converted pure text *.ps file created in MS Word 95 (I used postscript driver for laser printer HP 5L): part of a text, single words or sentences doesn't appear to be like text around. 1) Use Adobes PS-Printerdriver (to disk) instead of HP 5L. 2) Make sure the theshold is set from 100 to 1 - where can I set the theshold? - Properties of Adobe PS Driver -> Fonts -> Send Fonts As 3) Make sure the Fonts are send as Outline (or anything else) but not as bitmap (same dialog) If I select such word or sentence, copy and paste it to text editor, I can only see "tttttttttttttttttttttttttt". I guess this is the well known problem with true type fonts 4) Make sure you only use Arial, Courier, Times and ZapfDingbats, Type 1 fonts. Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 8:50:53-GMT,2994;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22763 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:50:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10526; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:47:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:46:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA10398; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:46:29 -0500 From: home@ryden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rydenh@mail.frynpan.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908200711.IAA10310@maipo.ipl.co.uk> References: <199908200711.IAA10310@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:46:26 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF/INDESIGN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________________________ > > RE>>[PDF] PDF/INDESIGN 20/8/99 >I would like to check out the demoe version as a whole but i cannot get >hold of a demo for love nore money can you help > >kindvregards stuart > >-------------------------------------- >Date: 20/8/99 7:38 am >To: Stuart Slaney >From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >We just launched InDesign in India this week at the local IFRA show. Its not >yet available for sale. But we were giving demos on a pre-release version. >Is there something specific you want to check? > >khullar > > I am one of the first to order In-Design. My supplier told me that it is supposed to ship today. I will believe it when I see it. There have been five new shipping dates since I got on the waiting list early last spring. Will let everyone know what it is like. Have friend who writes for technical journal for the publishing/printing industry who has beta+ and is using it. He said major problem is trapping. Otherwise he likes it. E. Jerome Ryden Residence: home@ryden.com Ryden & Associates: agency@ryden.com Advertising, public relations, multi-media production, writing -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 9:44:44-GMT,4582;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA23917 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:44:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13851; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:38:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:36:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13703; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:36:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908200711.IAA10310@maipo.ipl.co.uk> References: <199908200711.IAA10310@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:40:12 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: PDFzone Listowner Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF/INDESIGN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Unless this has some direct relevance to Acrobat/PDF, please take this discussion to _private email_ or to a discussion list on InDesign. Several people have already provided information here on such a list. Also, kindly show respect for other list subscribers by not re-forwarding large amounts of text from previous messages. Thanks - PDFzone.com === >I would like to check out the demoe version as a whole but i cannot get >hold of a demo for love nore money can you help > >kindvregards stuart > >-------------------------------------- >Date: 20/8/99 7:38 am >To: Stuart Slaney >From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >We just launched InDesign in India this week at the local IFRA show. Its not >yet available for sale. But we were giving demos on a pre-release version. >Is there something specific you want to check? > >khullar > > > > > >-_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> > <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> >________________________________________________________________ > > > >[Message ID: -1276987772] >[Internet header:] >Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by >barsac.ipl.co.uk (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA22960 for >; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:57:11 +0100 (BST) >Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27179; > Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:52:28 -0500 >Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Aug 1999 >23:52:28 -0500 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27161; > Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:52:27 -0500 >From: "S Khullar" >To: >Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF/INDESIGN >Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:41:44 +0530 >Message-ID: <01beeaca$7ec3b100$02c802c0@workstation> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html >X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html >X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com > > > >--Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- >-_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> > <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> >________________________________________________________________ -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 12:10:49-GMT,2285;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26796 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 06:10:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24445; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:07:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:05:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24272; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:05:33 -0500 From: Christian.Stockmar@agi-imc.de Importance: Normal X-Priority: 1 (High) Subject: [PDF] How to supress UI error message To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0 (Intl) 30 March 1999 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:05:57 GMT Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on mailzon01/Aristie-Online/DE(Release 5.0 (Intl)|30 March 1999) at 20.08.99 14:09:33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all ! I'm accessing Acrobat Exchange from Lotus Notes using OLE. When searching for a specific text string within a PDF document using the "FindText" method, I receive a true/false flag when the text has been found/not found. As an addition Acrobat opens a window when no match has been found. This causes a fatal error because the OLE call is invoked in the background by a server agent where no UI- interactions are allowed. Does anybody know how to suppress any UI - interaction when accessing Exchange via OLE? Thanks in advance! Chris -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 13:15:50-GMT,10531;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28185 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:15:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29531; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:08:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:06:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29305; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:06:20 -0500 From: DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil X-Lotus-FromDomain: PENSACOLA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: Jorma.Heimonen@kone.com Message-ID: <862567D3.0047F8B9.00@pens9776.cnet.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:05:53 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=TTCEgarTceGQIXHBPxxTg2kzVAU5DXdqcmDI4GIEFHszjO5hK8L52bbG" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --0__=TTCEgarTceGQIXHBPxxTg2kzVAU5DXdqcmDI4GIEFHszjO5hK8L52bbG Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Just an update on this problem posed originally in "comp.text.pdf." I am attaching a one-line file containing apostrophes that was distilled using 3.01 with Type 1 Times font on a Windows NT machine (PDD 5.01). It looks fine on the screen in Acrobat 4 Reader but will not print the apostrophes when printed to a HP laserjet 5m. Please note that if you print this file from a PC that also has Acrobat 3 Exchange/Distiller it will print the apostrophes. I took it to a machine that only had the Reader 4 on it to get this loss of character. (No pun intended regarding Adobe.) I hope one of you smarter people than me can figure it out. I really hope I'll be giving a red-faced apology to everyone, including Adobe, real soon. But I am under a lot of stress to resolve this issue ASAP. Dean McCallum (See attached file: test for apostrophe.pdf) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Hi: *Problem*: I've discovered that my employer's massive inventory of PDF files created with Acrobat 3 can't be reliably printed to paper using the newer Acrobat 4 Reader and a non PostScript printer. Only the older Acrobat 3 Reader works. All the apostrophes have disappeared. Don't laugh, it's not funny. (Count the apostrophes I've just used.) I supppose that the character sets are different for these new fonts. Background: As stated in Adobe Tech document 322792, Adobe changed the standard 14 fonts supplied with every free Acrobat Reader when they transitioned from version 3 (Times and Helvetica Type 1 fonts) to version 4 (MT Arial and MT Times New Roman Type 1 fonts). (Supposedly this was done to accomodate the "Euro dollar" symbol, but Microsoft updated their Truetypes for the Euro without this wholesale change.) As the Tech Doc further explains, the newer MT Arial and MT Times fonts automatically replace their older cousins Helvetica and Times when viewed on the screen. This is true. Our files view fine on the screen. If you output to a Postcript printer you have no problem. Unfortunately. most of our end users are spread out all over the world and have few, if any, Postscript printers. We have confirmed that all our apostrophes ( ' ) have disappeared and have been replaced with a blank space. Do any of you know what else is changed? Adobe is vague on this issue and didn't provide any specifics. We are using a laborous method now of proofreading every page of our old books against the PDF printed copy from HP Laserjets (4 Plus and 5m) and it's killing us to meet an end of the fiscal year deadline.. As any of us who have toiled with PDF for awhile know, Acrobat 3 *never* embedded the standard fonts. That was a "blessing." We used that file size savings to maximize the number of files we could put on a CD and minimize the download time over the Internet. (These fonts also were the ones we used for our traditional offset bulk printed books anyway.) My employer has over 350 technical and training manuals (total page count in the 6 figures) that have been converted to PDF. The PDD 5.01 we are using on our Windows NT machines doesn't seem to offer any help. (Nice Type 1 substitutions for TrueTypes, but not for other Type 1's. My only solution for now is to warn our end users to discard the newer Acrobat 4 Reader and use the older Acrobat 3 Reader. The long term solution sounds like a massive (aka $expensive$) revision effort through our contractor. Any help that you can provide will be gratefully appreciated. BTW, is Adobe listening? Dean McCallum --0__=TTCEgarTceGQIXHBPxxTg2kzVAU5DXdqcmDI4GIEFHszjO5hK8L52bbG Content-type: application/pdf; name="test for apostrophe.pdf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="test for apostrophe.pdf" Content-transfer-encoding: x-uuencode Content-Description: Adobe Portable Document begin 644 test for apostrophe.pdf M)5!$1BTQ+C(-"B7BX\_3#0HQ(#`@;V)J#0H\/`T*+U!R;V1U8V5R("A<,S2DQ,BXT*%PR,C(I+3(N-2AA*3$P+C7!E("]4>7!E,0T*+TYA;64@ M+T8R#0HO16YC;V1I;F<@.2`P(%(-"B]"87-E1F]N="`O5&EM97,M4F]M86X- M"CX^#0IE;F1O8FH-"CD@,"!O8FH-"CP\#0HO5'EP92`O16YC;V1I;F<-"B]$ M:69F97)E;F-E"]T:6QD92]M M86-R;VXO8G)E=F4O9&]T86-C96YT+V1I97)E7)I9VAT+V]R9&9E M;6EN:6YE(#$W,B]L;V=I8V%L;F]T+VAY<&AE;B]R96=I"])9&EE2]/F4@,3$-"B]2;V]T M(#$P(#`@4@T*+TEN9F\@,2`P(%(-"B])1"!;/&4Q,C4V.&8S93EB83 <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 13:31:59-GMT,1762;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28546 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:31:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31599; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:28:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:27:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31454; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:27:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4EA3E896@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF List , PDF DEV List Subject: [PDF] Bolding a word in an FDF text string Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:28:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am creating text strings in my FDF files. Is there a way in the fdf file to bold just one word in the string? Thanks, -Bob Perry ASA Inc -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 13:37:44-GMT,4473;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28676 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:37:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32329; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:34:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:33:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA32103; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:33:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Caching FDF in Adobe Acrobat PDF 4.0 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:36:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEEB11.029BF820" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEB11.029BF820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Okay, this makes sense then. Unlike previous version of Acrobat, which lauched the full application to view a PDF file in the browser, version 4 will launch Acrobat without giving you a taskbar item. So, normally, Acrobat won't really exit in WinNT/98 once launched. Is there a way around this? Is there a call that can be made that will clear Acrobat Reader's resident cache? robert v porter iv senior applications developer renaissance interactive, inc. -----Original Message----- From: Roberto Perelman [mailto:rperelma@Adobe.COM] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 5:05 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Caching FDF in Adobe Acrobat PDF 4.0 The following may explain this behavior: "Can't Reset my Form in the Browser" ................. All temp FDFs get deleted when Acrobat exits. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEB11.029BF820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Caching FDF in Adobe Acrobat PDF 4.0

Okay, this makes sense then.  Unlike previous = version of Acrobat, which lauched the full application to view a PDF = file in the browser, version 4 will launch Acrobat without giving you a = taskbar item.  So, normally, Acrobat won't really exit in WinNT/98 = once launched.  Is there a way around this?  Is there a call = that can be made that will clear Acrobat Reader's resident = cache?

robert v porter iv
senior applications developer
renaissance interactive, inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Roberto Perelman [mailto:rperelma@Adobe.COM]=
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Subject: Re: [PDF] Caching FDF in Adobe Acrobat PDF = 4.0

The following may explain this behavior:

"Can't Reset my Form in the Browser"

.................

All temp FDFs get deleted when Acrobat exits.

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEB11.029BF820-- -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 13:49:19-GMT,3934;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28954 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:49:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00655; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:45:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:43:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00532; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:43:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199908201343.GAA77836@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 06:43:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dean: > I am attaching a one-line file containing apostrophes that was distilled using > 3.01 with Type 1 Times font on a Windows NT machine (PDD 5.01). First, so you won't get totally flamed nor do it again, sending attachments to a discussion list is a no-no. I don't mind receiving them (no .exe files, please), but it is not kosher to post attachments. It is unwanted bloat. Now, on to your problem. I had no problem printing this file to a GCC Elite printer from a Mac, or to a Xerox WorkXCentre from a PC using Acrobat 4. The first thing I would do is try distilling your files with Distiller 3.02...the upgrade is available free from http://www.adobe.com. Second, I do not have an NT, so I'm stabbing in the dark here. Do you have a Distiller Printer selection? If so, use it as your printer. > It looks fine on the screen in Acrobat 4 Reader but will not print the > apostrophes when printed to a HP laserjet 5m. Third, try printing the PDF with the Print As Image (bitmap) option (print dialogue window), instead of PostScript. > Please note that if you print this file from a PC that also has Acrobat 3 > Exchange/Distiller it will print the apostrophes. I took it to a machine that > only had the Reader 4 on it to get this loss of character. You also took it to a machine which probably doesn't have Times Roman on it either. Acrobat 3 installed Times Roman as one of the Base 14 fonts and it couldn't be embedded in the PDF. Then Adobe came along with Acrobat 4 and answered people's clamours for the ability to embed the Base 14 fonts. Unfortunately, they made a decision to replace Times with Times New Roman, and Helvetica with Arial. I suppose they did this to keep Microsoft happy, but I don't know. When Acrobat looks for fonts, it first looks within itself for embedded/subsets. If it can't find any, it goes to the system fonts. Still out of luck, it will look to its own font resources which it installs with the application. So here comes along Times, which is not embedded, does not reside on one's system, and is not in Adobe's resources. What happens next is anyone's guess. Can this situation cause your problem? Maybe and maybe not. Let me know how you come out. Good luck. r|i|c|h -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 13:53:23-GMT,2207;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29064 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:53:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01220; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:49:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:47:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01028; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:47:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <862567D3.0047F8B9.00@pens9776.cnet.navy.mil> References: <862567D3.0047F8B9.00@pens9776.cnet.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:51:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: PDFzone Listowner Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PLEASE do NOT send file attachments of *any* kind or size to the PDFzone lists. It mucks up the digest & archive, and distributes the file to MANY subscribers who have no interest. Instead, post a URL where the file can be downloaded by anyone interested. Or ask that people contact you to obtain the file directly File attachments are disallowed according to PDF list guidelines. >(See attached file: test ...) >Attachment converted: KF7804:test for apostrophe.pdf (PDF /CARO) (0005BBC5) -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 14:21:54-GMT,3381;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29787 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:21:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04376; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:15:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:14:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04176; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:14:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:16:48 -0700 Message-Id: <199908201416.HAA05765@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil In-reply-to: <199908201343.GAA77836@mail.inficad.com> (richsprague@inficad.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files References: <199908201343.GAA77836@mail.inficad.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > When Acrobat looks for fonts, it first looks within itself for > embedded/subsets. By "within itself" I assume you mean "within the PDF file", right? > If it can't find any, it goes to the system fonts. Still > out of luck, it will look to its own font resources which it installs with > the application. Unfortunately, if this is literally true, this means that Acrobat cannot guarantee consistent results from platform to platform, since the system fonts are not guaranteed to have the same encodings, metrics, or glyph sets from one platform to another. IMO, the PDF specification should guarantee identical glyph sets, metrics, and default encodings for the base 14 fonts on every platform; those glyph sets, metrics, and encodings should be included in the published PDF specification, and should not change from version to version (except to add glyphs). (This is, in fact, already true for the encodings.) If a system font lacks certain glyphs from the specified glyph set, PDF interpreters should supply those glyphs individually from their built-in fonts. Also IMO, Adobe's Acrobat products should implement the PDF specification as published. If Acrobat doesn't meet the requirements of the previous two paragraphs -- which I believe are what PDF users want, and are certainly what I would want both as a user and as an author of PDF tools -- then IMO it is vital that Adobe clearly document in detail in what respects Acrobat fails to do so. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 14:23:11-GMT,1983;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29838 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:23:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04760; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:19:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:18:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04632; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:18:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:17:58 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bolding a word in an FDF text string In-Reply-To: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4EA3E896@gsomail> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am creating text strings in my FDF files. Is there a way in the fdf file > to bold just one word in the string? No, since text fields can only have one font. If it is read-only field, a cumbersome workaround is to programmatically create another PDF with the text you want displayed and use it as a button icon. I've used Thomas Merz' PDZFlib for this. -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 14:55:24-GMT,1831;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00720 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:55:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08285; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:50:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:49:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08171; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:49:28 -0500 From: DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil X-Lotus-FromDomain: PENSACOLA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <862567D3.005168A9.00@pens9776.cnet.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:48:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Humbly apologize for sending the one-line attachment. Meant to send that directly to one person only , the other addresee, and accidently added PDFZone to the address list. I will NOT do that again. Dean McCallum -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 15:29:37-GMT,3879;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01745 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:29:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11483; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:19:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:17:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11346; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:17:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199908201517.IAA95676@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:17:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> When Acrobat looks for fonts, it first looks within itself for >> embedded/subsets. > > By "within itself" I assume you mean "within the PDF file", right? That is what I meant...the PDF file Acrobat is opening. My original sentence sounds somewhat confusing, but at 5 a.m.... > >> If it can't find any, it goes to the system fonts. Still >> out of luck, it will look to its own font resources which it installs with >> the application. > > Unfortunately, if this is literally true, this means that Acrobat cannot > guarantee consistent results from platform to platform, since the system > fonts are not guaranteed to have the same encodings, metrics, or glyph sets > from one platform to another. >From what I've seen, I would say that there are two problems (as related to this topic) to watch out for: 1* Issues relating to the change of the Base 14 fonts from Acrobat 3 to 4. 2* Problems that arise if fonts are not embedded/subset in a PDF. For files destined for high-end printing this is a big problem. Remember, one could not embed/subset the Base 14 fonts in Distiller 3.x. > IMO, the PDF specification should guarantee identical glyph sets, metrics, > and default encodings for the base 14 fonts on every platform; those glyph > sets, metrics, and encodings should be included in the published PDF > specification, and should not change from version to version (except to add > glyphs). (This is, in fact, already true for the encodings.) If a system > font lacks certain glyphs from the specified glyph set, PDF interpreters > should supply those glyphs individually from their built-in fonts. It's hard to do this if Adobe changes the fonts from Times to Times New Roman, and Helvetica to Arial. These aren't even the same fonts, just cousins. Moral to the story. If you want Times Roman or Helvetica in your PDF file, you must use Distiller 4 and embed and subset. And, just to throw another wrinkle in the sheets, I discovered the other day on my Windows machine that when I tried to distill a Word file with Times New Roman and Arial included, that Distiller embedded Microsoft's TT version, and not the PS versions that Adobe includes on its Resource > Fonts folder. r|i|c|h -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 16:10:43-GMT,2419;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02811 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:10:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16212; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:07:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:05:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16057; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:05:47 -0500 Message-ID: <37BD7CC6.29326C79@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:05:26 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Caching FDF in Adobe Acrobat PDF 4.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You could call resetForm on page open, instead of calling it on document open. However, if your form is multi-page, you need to be careful, because every time you leaf through the doc to the page that has the action, it will execute! (You might need to use a variable to control this, if you have this case) > Okay, this makes sense then. Unlike previous version of Acrobat, > which lauched the full application to view a PDF file in the browser, > version 4 will launch Acrobat without giving you a taskbar item. So, > normally, Acrobat won't really exit in WinNT/98 once launched. Is > there a way around this? Is there a call that can be made that will > clear Acrobat Reader's resident cache? -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 16:24:57-GMT,2221;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03223 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:24:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17495; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:21:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:20:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17312; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:20:19 -0500 From: "Lars Hoj" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:16:57 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Tried your file from NT and Win 95 computers on a LJ8000 with PS, PCL6, and PLC5e, and on and olde DJ6100CM with HP PS, Adobe PS, and PCL3. All printed with no problems. Kind regards Lars Hoej LARS HOEJ Informatik - Baunestien 4, DK-3460 Birkeroed, Denmark Tel +45 4582 8500 . Fax +45 4582 85 01 . Private +45 4582 8510 . Mobile +45 4041 8511 mailto:lars@lhi.dk - http://www.lhi.dk -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 16:25:34-GMT,3548;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03240 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:25:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17496; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:21:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:19:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17243; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:19:51 -0500 From: "Ray Dembek" To: Subject: [PDF] -Roman vs. -Regular variations of a font Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:18:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000c01beeb27$94c2d140$1e298318@ea.unisys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <862567D3.005168A9.00@pens9776.cnet.navy.mil> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have a TrueType and Type 1 version of the same font, called UniSans. Any PDF document should be created with the Type 1 version. Some of the PDF files are created on NT and some on Windows 95. We are finding that some of the PDF files are calling for a font called Unisans-Regular and some are calling for a font called UniSans-Roman. Any idea where these two variations are coming from? Adobe ATM 4.0 lists the font's PostScript name as UniSans-Regular. We normally embed the font which would of course make the document work no matter what it is called. We do have some applications where we might not want to embed the font. Regards and thanks, Ray Dembek Raymond F. Dembek Unisys Corp. - Michigan Ray.Dembek@Unisys.com Voice: 248-661-9302 "We eat, sleep and drink this stuff." -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 10:49 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Humbly apologize for sending the one-line attachment. Meant to send that directly to one person only , the other addresee, and accidently added PDFZone to the address list. I will NOT do that again. Dean McCallum -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 16:25:52-GMT,5291;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03254 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:25:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17771; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:22:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:21:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17542; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:21:51 -0500 From: DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil X-Lotus-FromDomain: PENSACOLA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <862567D3.0059DF50.00@pens9776.cnet.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:21:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ "Rich Sprague" on 08/20/99 08:43:41 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: DEAN MCCALLUM/NETPDTC/SAUFLEY/PENSACOLA@PENSACOLA Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Rich: First, thanks for your thoughts and ideas. I really appreciate it. >The first thing I would do is try distilling your files with Distiller >3.02...the upgrade is available free from http://www.adobe.com. Sorry, I neglected to mention that I did distill with 3.02. >Second, I do not have an NT, so I'm stabbing in the dark here. Do you have a >Distiller Printer selection? If so, use it as your printer. >Third, try printing the PDF with the Print As Image (bitmap) option (print >dialogue window), instead of PostScript. I am sure this works for those who have high-level printers and who are skilled in Windows, PDF, etc, but we are shipping these PDF files out to the "average Joe" and I thought one of the big selling points of Acrobat was the ease of use and ease of printing. That, BTW, was true with Acrobat 3. >You also took it to a machine which probably doesn't have Times Roman on it >either. Acrobat 3 installed Times Roman as one of the Base 14 fonts and it >couldn't be embedded in the PDF. Then Adobe came along with Acrobat 4 and >answered people's clamours for the ability to embed the Base 14 fonts. Yes, I'm sure you're right that the machine didn't have Times Roman (Type 1), but Acrobat REader 3 printed the file with no problem to that same machine. The real point is, with version 3 *ANYONE* could output the file to almost any printer, including dot-matrix, and get good, reliable copy. Now with version 4 you may need special printers and/or instructions on setting up a printer to print PDF version 4. This defeats the main purpose of Acrobat, platform independence and simplicity of use. >Let me know how you come out. Still trying and no success. BTW, I don't want to try batch file conversions to Acrobat 4 to embed Times and Helvetica for all our legacy files. I fear that we might lose too many links, bookmarks etc. The proofing of all that material again would cause a mutiny in our work force. The more I think about what we have out on the Internet and CD already, I hope you smart folks can save our skins. You might be saving your own skins too! Dean McCallum -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 17:01:05-GMT,3546;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04363 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:01:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21365; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:57:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:56:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21162; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:56:16 -0500 From: DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil X-Lotus-FromDomain: PENSACOLA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <862567D3.005D061E.00@pens9776.cnet.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:55:55 -0500 Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ "Lars Hoj" on 08/20/99 11:16:57 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: DEAN MCCALLUM/NETPDTC/SAUFLEY/PENSACOLA) Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Lars: Thanks for trying my file on your printers listed below. . >Tried your file from NT and Win 95 computers on a LJ8000 >with PS, PCL6, and PLC5e, and on and olde DJ6100CM with HP >PS, Adobe PS, and PCL3. >All printed with no problems. I am unfamilar with the two above printers. Are they both PostScript capable in those modes? The problem I have described in earlier messages deals with printing to non-Postscript printers (HP Laserjet 4 Plus, HP Laserjet 5m, etc). Most of my end users of our PDF files do not have PostScript printers. Our HPs print the PDF version 3 from Acrobat Reader 3 with no problem. The apostrophe only drops out when run from Acrobat Reader 4-only machines. Thanks again for your input. Every bit helps! Dean McCallum ________________________________________________________________ -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 17:11:42-GMT,4380;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04644 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:11:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22442; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:08:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:06:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22305; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:06:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199908201706.KAA19621@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:06:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>Second, I do not have an NT, so I'm stabbing in the dark here. Do you have a >>Distiller Printer selection? If so, use it as your printer. What I meant, here, was that when you create the PDF to begin with, you don't choose the PS printer on your network, you select the Distiller Printer in your print window. >>You also took it to a machine which probably doesn't have Times Roman on it >>either. Acrobat 3 installed Times Roman as one of the Base 14 fonts and it >>couldn't be embedded in the PDF. Then Adobe came along with Acrobat 4 and >>answered people's clamours for the ability to embed the Base 14 fonts. > Yes, I'm sure you're right that the machine didn't have Times Roman (Type 1), Okay, then let's be smart about this. I still think you should try printing your PDF file with the Distiller Printer but, if that doesn't work... Here's one last grasp/gasp... Make sure that Arial and Times New Roman are installed on the machine making the PS/PDFs. Replace the Times with Times New Roman, and the Helvetica with Arial. When you proceed to make your PS/PDF, Distiller 3.x will think these are just another variety of fonts. It has no way of knowing that they are the new members of the Base 14 font family in Acrobat 4. Your PDF font encoding will read Times New Roman and Arial TT. When opened in any version of Acrobat on any machine, Acrobat will reference the calls for those exact fonts when opening the PDF. With Acrobat 4 on Windows and Macs, these are in the Acrobat > Resources > Fonts folder, so there should be no problem. With Acrobat 3 on Windows, this should not be a problem as most systems will have Times New Roman and Arial installed. On those few systems that don't, like some Macs, the Adobe Multiple Master technology will take over and create almost identical versions (at least for your purpose, but certainly not high-end printing). This scheme, as it is, does work...I just tried it...by making a Word doc on the Mac, distilling with 3.x, and opening on both the Mac and Windows platforms. What we all need to remember is that Acrobat is a wonderful application. But Adobe made major structural changes between versions 3 and 4, and that included the framework...fonts. They went from a square to a round hole. The round hole will fit in the square but not vice versa. Ask Richard S. in New York how many hours he and I spent with a similar sort of font issue with the new Base 14 fonts. We spent days back and forth over what seemed to be weeks. I haven't heard from him for a while...he must have taken an extended vacation to recover from the stress. Give this a try and let me know how you do. Good luck. r|i|c|h -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 17:16:25-GMT,2241;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04775 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:16:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23070; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:13:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:12:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22794; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:11:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199908201711.KAA20696@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:11:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The problem I have described in earlier messages deals with printing to > non-Postscript printers (HP Laserjet 4 Plus, HP Laserjet 5m, etc). Most of my > end users of our PDF files do not have PostScript printers. There have been many posts to these lists in recent weeks about Acrobat 4 printing problems on non-Adobe PS printers. There is one known workaround. Instruct your users to Print As Image as I suggested earlier. Or, as I just wrote, replace the PS fonts with TT and the problem *should* disappear. I hope. r|i|c|h -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 18:23:49-GMT,2466;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06552 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:23:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29511; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:16:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:13:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29175; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:13:25 -0500 From: "Lars Hoj" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:09:58 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ LJ8000 is HP LaserJet 8000 with genuine Adobe PostScript and HP PCL in both version 6 and version 5. DJ6100CM i HP DeskJet 1600CM with genuine Adobe PostScript and HP PCL 5 and PCL 3 (for colour). So these are 'normal' Hewlett-Packard printers - one a laser printer and the other one an inkjet printer - both with Adobe PostScript Level 2. So they should be representative for what yu can expect at your end user's. Kind regards Lars Hoej LARS HOEJ Informatik - Baunestien 4, DK-3460 Birkeroed, Denmark Tel +45 4582 8500 . Fax +45 4582 85 01 . Private +45 4582 8510 . Mobile +45 4041 8511 mailto:lars@lhi.dk - http://www.lhi.dk -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 18:25:39-GMT,4960;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06625 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:25:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29880; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:19:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:18:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29750; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:18:20 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990820110905.00a7fd70@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:16:37 -0700 To: "Ray Dembek" , Ray.Dembek@Unisys.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] -Roman vs. -Regular variations of a font Cc: In-Reply-To: <000c01beeb27$94c2d140$1e298318@ea.unisys.com> References: <862567D3.005168A9.00@pens9776.cnet.navy.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible that some of the PDF files were created from documents that reference the Type 1 font and others, the TrueType font? Problems of this type are often the result of trying to have a font in both Type 1 and TrueType within an organization OR EVEN WORSE, on the same system. If the fonts are named identically, various conflicts occur in drivers, apps, display. If they are not identically named, as is likely in your case, you get the symptoms that you have noted. (I am guessing that UniSans is a corporate font of Unisys? If that is the case, you should have your corporate folk standardize on ONE of these fonts and dump the other. Good thing you are not still Burroughs ... could you imagine BurroughSans?) - Dov At 8/20/99 09:18 AM , Ray Dembek wrote: >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >We have a TrueType and Type 1 version of the same font, called UniSans. Any >PDF document should be created with the Type 1 version. Some of the PDF >files are created on NT and some on Windows 95. We are finding that some of >the PDF files are calling for a font called Unisans-Regular and some are >calling for a font called UniSans-Roman. Any idea where these two >variations are coming from? Adobe ATM 4.0 lists the font's PostScript name >as UniSans-Regular. > >We normally embed the font which would of course make the document work no >matter what it is called. We do have some applications where we might not >want to embed the font. > >Regards and thanks, > >Ray Dembek >Raymond F. Dembek >Unisys Corp. - Michigan >Ray.Dembek@Unisys.com >Voice: 248-661-9302 > >"We eat, sleep and drink this stuff." > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On >Behalf Of DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil >Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 10:49 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 >PDF files > > > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > > > >Humbly apologize for sending the one-line attachment. Meant to send that >directly to one person only , the other addresee, and accidently added >PDFZone >to the address list. I will NOT do that again. > >Dean McCallum > > >-_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> > <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> >________________________________________________________________ > > >-_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> > <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> >________________________________________________________________ -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 18:37:28-GMT,2528;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06977 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:37:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31725; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:33:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:32:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31561; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:32:25 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990820112954.00a64ef0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:30:56 -0700 To: "Lars Hoj" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Cc: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 8/20/99 11:09 AM , Lars Hoj wrote: >LJ8000 is HP LaserJet 8000 with genuine Adobe PostScript and >HP PCL in both version 6 and version 5. >DJ6100CM i HP DeskJet 1600CM with genuine Adobe PostScript >and HP PCL 5 and PCL 3 (for colour). > >So these are 'normal' Hewlett-Packard printers - one a laser >printer and the other one an inkjet printer - both with >Adobe PostScript Level 2. > >So they should be representative for what yu can expect at >your end user's. > >Kind regards > >Lars Hoej LaserJet 8000 does NOT have Adobe PostScript. It is klone!!!! - Dov -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 18:54:12-GMT,2528;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07363 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:54:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00748; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:50:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:49:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00651; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:49:13 -0500 From: "Lars Hoj" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:45:52 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You're right - then tried it on the LaserJet 8500 - which HAS Adobe PostScript 3 - same results. Kind regards Lars At 8/20/99 11:09 AM , Lars Hoj wrote: >LJ8000 is HP LaserJet 8000 with genuine Adobe PostScript and >HP PCL in both version 6 and version 5. >DJ6100CM i HP DeskJet 1600CM with genuine Adobe PostScript >and HP PCL 5 and PCL 3 (for colour). > >So these are 'normal' Hewlett-Packard printers - one a laser >printer and the other one an inkjet printer - both with >Adobe PostScript Level 2. > >So they should be representative for what yu can expect at >your end user's. > >Kind regards > >Lars Hoej LaserJet 8000 does NOT have Adobe PostScript. It is klone!!!! - Dov -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 19:35:01-GMT,2272;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08446 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:34:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04672; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:25:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:24:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04508; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:23:58 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:22:54 +0100 Message-ID: <006d01beeb41$68ecbee0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > LJ8000 is HP LaserJet 8000 with genuine Adobe PostScript and > HP PCL in both version 6 and version 5. No, it is not. It has a clone PostScript made by Xionics. You will not find Adobe PostScript on the test page. > DJ6100CM i HP DeskJet 1600CM with genuine Adobe PostScript > and HP PCL 5 and PCL 3 (for colour). The 1600CM is an older printer, and does indeed have Adobe PostScript level 2 - made before HP decided to switch. Aandi -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 20:34:21-GMT,3820;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10005 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:34:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11253; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:28:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:26:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10884; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:26:23 -0500 From: DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil X-Lotus-FromDomain: PENSACOLA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <862567D3.00704463.00@pens9776.cnet.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:26:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich: Of all the people who commented on my problem, you were the most persistent and I appreciate that very much. Your two suggested fixes, listed below, will work but are not acceptable for our end users/customers. (1) To change the settings on a printer to print out our manuals and then switch it back to the original setting for other use, assuming that the end user knows how to do this switch and his printer is capable of such a switch, won't cut it on our organization. As I have stated earlier, our organization is global in nature and the types of printers available at each site is not something we can control or even know. (2) To switch all those fonts in a couple of hundred thousand pages and any other sundry changes resulting from this effort is a very expensive option that we do not have the time or money for now. We're sticking with Acrobat Reader 3 and keeping our apostrophes. Adobe Acrobat's website makes the following claim: "New: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 The essential tool for universal document exchange. Tired of colleagues not being able to open your documents? Frustrated by software and platform incompatibilities that destroy your documents' look and feel? You need Adobe(R) Acrobat(R). It's the most reliable, efficient, and effective way to share information electronically." Isn't this claim ludicrous in light of the problems stated in this thread? Dean McCallum $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ >> The problem I have described in earlier messages deals with printing to >> non-Postscript printers (HP Laserjet 4 Plus, HP Laserjet 5m, etc). Most of my >> end users of our PDF files do not have PostScript printers. >There have been many posts to these lists in recent weeks about Acrobat 4 >printing problems on non-Adobe PS printers. >There is one known workaround. Instruct your users to Print As Image as I >suggested earlier. >Or, as I just wrote, replace the PS fonts with TT and the problem *should* >disappear. I hope. -_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Rich Sprague's column: "Choosing the Proper Settings in Distiller 4.0" -> <- SEE: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/distillersettings1.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 21:08:47-GMT,2704;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10943 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:08:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15608; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:05:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:04:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15426; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:04:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Kelly Chenik To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Very Strange Exchange Problem Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:01:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've been using Acrobat Exchange 3.01 operating under Windows 95. Everything runs very well, except that the buttons in the toolbar show as simple green boxes, without any icon or text to show their function. After a few seconds of mouse-over, the drop-down help boxes appear as they should to show the function of the button, but the buttons themselves always show as simple green outlines. I have uninstalled the complete Acrobat suite many times, using the Uninstall Feature as well as manual removal following Adobe's instructions, and subsequently re-installed without success. As I mentioned, everything else seems to work perfectly.....Even the buttons (such as they are) function normally when you push them..... I should probably also mention that this system is actually a Macintosh G3 running Windows 95 under the Softwindows emulator. However, Acrobat was working perfectly (including the toolbar buttons) for several months, until they suddenly disappeared one day. I cannot recall any type of system corruption or other problem that preceeded this Acrobat button problem. Thanks very much for your time. KC, Irvine CA _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 21:12:58-GMT,4283;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11026 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:12:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16121; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:09:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:08:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15925; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:08:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199908202108.OAA74210@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:08:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Rich: > > Of all the people who commented on my problem, you were the most persistent > and I appreciate that very much. Even though I sort of fried you for posting the attachment? > Your two suggested fixes, listed below, will work but are not acceptable for > our end users/customers. > (1) To change the settings on a printer to print out our manuals and then > switch it back to the original setting for other use, Actually, there's no switching back and forth. When you start to print from Acrobat in the print dialogue box you check the Print As Image box in Windows (and on the Mac you change the word PostScript in the popup menu to Print As Image). I admit, one can't expect an everyday viewer of a PDF file to know how to solve printing problems. > assuming that the end user knows how to do this switch and his printer is > capable of such a switch, won't cut it on our organization. As I have stated > earlier, our organization is global in nature and the types of printers > available at each site is not something we can control or even know. I went through this exact same thing with Bob in Vancouver for days. Without using the Print As Image option, his PDFs -- which were distributed around the world -- were doomed on a handful of printers (almost every one were non-Adobe PS printers of one sort or another). This printing problem was caused by an image, however, and not a font. This situation is like deja vu for me with a new wrinkle. > (2) To switch all those fonts in a couple of hundred thousand pages and any > other sundry changes resulting from this effort is a very expensive option > that we do not have the time or money for now. > We're sticking with Acrobat Reader 3 and keeping our apostrophes. This is an excellent reason to stick with Reader 3. As frustrating as this issue's been for you, myself and others, there are two independent problems: 1* On Adobe's side, they can't control how other people make their printers, what ROM is in the engine, and whose PS they buy. 2* On the other side of the coin, and the side I don't understand, is why in blue blazes Adobe chose to change the Base 14 fonts in Acrobat 4. I'm sure there is a reason...but it's not clear to me what it is. This subject, except for the rationale, is discussed in length both at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/tips/tip0045.html and at http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/19ce6.htm Adobe's bottom line solution: 1* Recreate the doc in Distiller 4 and embed the fonts. 2* View and print the file in Acrobat 3. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 21:15:25-GMT,2585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11098 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:15:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16695; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:12:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:11:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16430; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:11:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: p0071549@csmail.brookes.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908192156.QAA21774@everglades.binc.net> References: <199908192156.QAA21774@everglades.binc.net> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:15:36 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Chris Jennings Subject: [PDF] File association + CDROM distribution Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Problem: You create a PDF publication for distribution on CDROM - dual format MAC/PC. Built with Acrobat 4. You stick the Acrobat 4 installers for MAC and Windows on the disk. Fine. MAC users simply install Acrobat 4 and they then double click the opening PDF file on the CDROM - works reasonably well. If they have previously installed Acrobat 3.0 - no problem - 4 seems to be invoked automatically. BUT on the Windows system if Acrobat 3.0 has been there before we get 'Windows cannot find Acroread.EXE' or some such. It seems we have to fiddle around changing the PDF file association and delete Acrobat 3.0. Does anyone else find this annoying? Can we find a way of distributing on CDROM a publication that is just a double click on an icon on the CDROM. WE can do this with DIRECTOR applications, how do we do it with Acrobat applicatons. Chris Jennings Multimedia Developer _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 21:20:17-GMT,2114;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11299 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:20:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17488; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:17:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:16:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17244; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:16:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990820225943.007c1860@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:59:43 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Search Using Date Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm using Acrobat 4 on a Windows 95 Platform. Available Indexes: Acrobat 4.0 Online Guides Searching for Files created after December 12, 1999, and before January 1, 2000 returns 4 out of 7 files. DISTPARM.PDF Created Friday, 05. March 1999 00:49:00 ACROJS.PDF Created Thursday, 25. February 1999 00:22:00 ACROHELP.PDF Created Monday, 15. February 1999 19:19:00 PDFMARK.PDF Created Friday, 05. March 1999 00:48:00 Is this function supposed to work ? If it does, what am I doing wrong ? Reinhard _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 21:26:35-GMT,2547;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11476 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:26:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18450; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:23:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:22:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18076; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:22:00 -0500 Message-ID: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7F2D@keg.aus.frco.com> From: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "Jones, Wayne [FRS/AUS]" , "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" Subject: [PDF] Missing graphics, web viewer vs reader Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:17:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Our application serves PDF across a network to a web-based viewer using Reader embedded in an application built from IE components. (Forgive my lack of preciseness on the terminology. I'm not a programmer and I didn't create the viewer.) I noticed today that in some instances, small graphics used as icons in notes in documents do not appear when viewing from the web viewer. If I view the same document across the network using Acrobat Reader standalone, all the graphics appear. Any idea what's causing the disappearing icons and how to fix them? I also noticed that the interface of the viewers differ in several respects: the toolbars have different icons, the bookmarks have a different appearance, different tabs are available in the bookmark pane. Thanks, Ron Riley Ron.Riley@Austin.frco.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 21:57:42-GMT,2691;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12258 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:57:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22434; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:54:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:53:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22275; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:53:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199908202153.OAA84374@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:53:04 -0700 Subject: [PDF] NON-ADOBE POSTSCRIPT PRINTERS From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm doing a study. If you have a laser printer, that does not use Adobe PS, I would appreciate a private e-mail reply with the following information. * Name of the printer (manufacturer and model number) * Type of PostScript emulator (i.e. Phoenix, etc.) * What the names of the Base 14 fonts are (particularly Helvetica, Arial, Times or Times New Roman) that are built into the printer's memory. You should be able to determine this by using a utility to view the printer's memory * Whether or not you have had any printing problems from Reader/Exchange 3.x or Reader/Acrobat 4.x. If you answer this last question, please try to be as specific as possible. Tell me which Acrobat program/version you were using, describe the problem, and tell me what solution you reached and how you achieved it. If I make any of this information public, it will be not include any personal data of the contributors, including name, e-mail address, stories told (unless it is without identification), or anything else of concern. TIA. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 22:14:21-GMT,2398;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12681 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:14:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23539; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:03:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:01:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23187; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:01:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:04:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199908202204.PAA06652@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <199908202153.OAA84374@mail.inficad.com> (richsprague@inficad.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] NON-ADOBE POSTSCRIPT PRINTERS References: <199908202153.OAA84374@mail.inficad.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > If you have a laser printer, that does not use Adobe PS, I would appreciate > a private e-mail reply with the following information. Please note that Ghostscript (which is the standard PostScript printing mechanism on Linux for non-PostScript printers) is a "PostScript printer" for purposes of this study, even though it does the PS to raster conversion on the desktop. I will respond to Rich with information about the fonts that are distributed with Ghostscript, but you'll have to provide the rest of the information. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-1999 22:29:31-GMT,3193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13100 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:29:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25769; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:23:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:22:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25504; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:21:59 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199908192156.QAA21774@everglades.binc.net> <199908192156.QAA21774@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:21:46 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] File association + CDROM distribution Cc: Chris Jennings Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Chris, you can make the CD-ROM autorunnable for Windows. Add the appropriate autorun.inf file, and the document you specifiied there automatically opens after inserting the CD. On a virgin system (no previous installation of Acrobat 4 / Reader 4), you will get a screen where you will have to agree to the End User Licence Agreement. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >You create a PDF publication for distribution on CDROM - dual format >MAC/PC. Built with Acrobat 4. You stick the Acrobat 4 installers for >MAC and Windows on the disk. Fine. MAC users simply install Acrobat 4 >and they then double click the opening PDF file on the CDROM - works >reasonably well. If they have previously installed Acrobat 3.0 - no >problem - 4 seems to be invoked automatically. BUT on the Windows >system if Acrobat 3.0 has been there before we get 'Windows cannot >find Acroread.EXE' or some such. It seems we have to fiddle around >changing the PDF file association and delete Acrobat 3.0. > >Does anyone else find this annoying? > >Can we find a way of distributing on CDROM a publication that is just >a double click on an icon on the CDROM. WE can do this with DIRECTOR >applications, how do we do it with Acrobat applicatons. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 21-Aug-1999 5:55:21-GMT,1908;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22079 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:55:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05610; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:51:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:48:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05356; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:48:09 -0500 Message-ID: <37BE39F4.3FBAC870@reporters.net> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:32:36 +0800 From: "F. Marc de Piolenc" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "PDF List (posts)" Subject: [PDF] text displays, but does not print Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have downloaded a document (a form to be printed, filled out and returned in hard copy). The document displays fine, but when printed the text (except for two regions near the top) does not appear. This is the first time I have encountered this. Any suggestions? Marc de Piolenc _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 21-Aug-1999 12:35:29-GMT,3834;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29537 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:35:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA32323; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:26:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:22:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31971; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:22:00 -0500 Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:21:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael H. Martel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How to Apply Security Settings to muliple PDF files. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello! I'm new to this list so I hope that I don't do something totally dumb. :-) I searched the FAQ and Archives and didn't find this so I'm posting it. Using Acrobat 4.x on Windows and Macintosh, suggestions for either platform will help! We've been using PDF format for some documents that can't be changed. Management needs to be 100% convinced that these documents _can't_ be changed by anyone. Using Acrobat 3.x the worst you could do was to remove a page. Now with Acrobat 4.x you can change the text in the pdf's. Hmpf. Ok, so I see the distiller settings for Password to change security settings. I can set that and all my new documents will be distilled that way. Cool. However, I still have about a year and a half worth of documents (1gb+) of documents that are already PDF's. The originals to these are long gone. So the question is how to apply the security settings to those documents. The two suggestions that I've come up with on my own are the following : 1) Print each into a postscript file and then re-distill it. 2) Do a Save-As on each file and set the security settings manually. I thought about an AppleScript/Perl Script to open each file and save it with the new security settings. However, I can't find a way to default the security settings in Exchange. Can it be done ? I also toyed with converting them all to .ps files and just re-distilling them. The trouble there is the logistics of where are files are stored. If they were all in a single location that would be tedious but doable. As it is, the files are spread out across about 80 directoris, with different names. I think this is my best bet. The last question I have, is is there a way within Distiller to produce a PDF that is completely read only without the need for passwords ? So that there is _absolutely_ no way to change the contents ? I'm open to any and all solutions, including the all too familiar "it can't be done". I'll summarize to the list if there's an interest. Thanks! Michael -------------------------------o-------------------------------- Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges martelm@quark.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist http://probe.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 21-Aug-1999 15:26:50-GMT,2180;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02706 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:26:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14564; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:16:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:13:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14320; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:13:28 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990821151329.00981390@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:13:29 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Apply Security Settings to muliple PDF files. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There are a number of commercially available plug-ins that can set security options in batch. "Compose" by Ambia (now Infodata) is one such product that would probably work for you; they have a "4.0" version designed for Acrobat 4. Check out the PDF-Zone website for a list of other vendors. Tom At 08:21 AM 8/21/99 -0400, you wrote: >However, I still have about a year and a half worth of >documents (1gb+) of documents that are already PDF's. The originals to >these are long gone. So the question is how to apply the security settings >to those documents. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 21-Aug-1999 17:08:31-GMT,3294;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04593 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:08:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23967; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:55:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:51:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23508; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:51:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990821125434.008cec00@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:54:34 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Apply Security Settings to muliple PDF files. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >The last question I have, is is there a way within Distiller to produce a >PDF that is completely read only without the need for passwords ? So that >there is _absolutely_ no way to change the contents ? > For starters, you're making it all more complex than it needs to be, I think. Earlier versions of Distiller didn't allow you to set passwords. You'd do this in Exchange, and you can still do so, though Exchange is now called Acrobat in V 4. Open the PDF, choose Save As, and in the save dialog you'll see a Security button. Click it. In the resulting dialog, you'll be able to set two different passwords. One controls whether the PDF can be opened by anyone or only by those with a password. Don't set a password for this. The other password controls whether the PDF can be printed, changed, whether text/graphics can be selected, etc. That's the one you want to set, then set the options you do/don't want to allow. As to whether this is _absolutely_ secure ... no. It's not. As people on this ng will tell you, there are ways to crack the password. Given enough processor cycles, there are probably ways to crack ANY password protection scheme. There's no free lunch. If management wants people to see certain information, they have to be willing to let people see it. Sounds simple, but it's sometimes a toughie for MBAs to wrap their minds around, I guess. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 0:36:41-GMT,3030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11393 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:36:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19159; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:29:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:20:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18115; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:20:41 -0500 Message-ID: <37BFDAE2.49E42A@nfld.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:41:30 -0230 From: Pia KP Organization: Designer Mice - a division of D.G.Taylor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files References: <862567D3.0047F8B9.00@pens9776.cnet.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I printed your file to my printer, an HP 6MP. I only have distiller 4 and acrobat four on my machine and have all sorts of versions of 'Times' loaded . The apostrophes all printed. However I have had problems printing to non postscript printers. DEAN.MCCALLUM@smtp.cnet.navy.mil wrote: > Just an update on this problem posed originally in "comp.text.pdf." I am > attaching a one-line file containing apostrophes that > was distilled using 3.01 with Type 1 Times font on a Windows NT machine (PDD > 5.01). It looks fine on the screen in Acrobat 4 Reader > but will not print the apostrophes when printed to a HP laserjet 5m. Please > note that if you print this file from a PC that also has Acrobat 3 > Exchange/Distiller it will print the apostrophes. I took it to a machine that > only had the Reader 4 on it to get this loss of character. > (No pun intended regarding Adobe.) I hope one of you smarter people than me can > figure it out. I really hope I'll be giving a red-faced apology > to everyone, including Adobe, real soon. But I am under a lot of stress to > resolve this issue ASAP. > > Dean McCallum > (See attached file: test for apostrophe.pdf) -- Pia Pehtla Designer MICE http://www.netfx.ca/designermice ICQ 4074249 - 709-834-2461 - tel. - 709-834-7518 - fax. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 1:18:34-GMT,2789;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12222 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:18:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23543; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:14:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:11:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23214; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:11:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199908230111.UAA23208@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Apply Security Settings to muliple PDF files. Date: Mon, 23 Aug 99 13:15:52 +1200 x-sender: craigl@mail.siren.co.nz x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Craig Lauridsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve Rindsberg wrote >As to whether this is _absolutely_ secure ... no. It's not. As people on >this ng will tell you, there are ways to crack the password. Given enough >processor cycles, there are probably ways to crack ANY password protection >scheme. There's no free lunch. If management wants people to see certain >information, they have to be willing to let people see it. Sounds simple, >but it's sometimes a toughie for MBAs to wrap their minds around, I guess. > > I have had some success creating a pseudo copy of a PDF by refrying (File>Export>Postscript then redistilling) an original PDF with some security protection. Not every interactive feature was retained but the result was a document which appeared the same. I know that refrying is a risky process that is not advised due to font encoding methods, but I was surprised how easy it was to step around a security measure which presumably the creator thought offered them some level of security. I am not a hacker, but was testing the limits of what could be done before offering advise to a client similar to the rest of Steve's comments. Craig Lauridsen Acumen Technical Design and Training _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 3:01:29-GMT,1760;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14704 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:01:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA06552; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:56:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:43:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA05447; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:43:42 -0500 X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908230020.TAA18137@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:44:41 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] How to Apply Security Settings to muliple PDF files. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Setting security in batch is easy. No plug-ins needed. Use Acrobat 4 File->Batch Process. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 3:17:37-GMT,2557;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15023 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:17:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA08347; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:14:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:11:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA08015; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:11:21 -0500 Message-ID: <003401beed16$7262e5e0$1262513e@none.servicom.es> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] How to Apply Security Settings to muliple PDF files. Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 05:20:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello all: This may be a silly answer but if you look in the File Menu, you'll find something like "Batch process" This will let you adjust security, password and open setting for a bunch of PDF's in one shot. At the sametime, you can also optimize them. This was a highly missed feature in Acrobat 3.x but is present in 4.x If you want to set multiple files security in one shot.... this is your menu. Hope it helps. Carlos. ************************************************************************************************ La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos González Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid Tel.: 915 344 348 Fax.: 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************************************************ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 9:00:09-GMT,2707;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA22467 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:00:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA31637; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:51:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:48:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA31420; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:48:47 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567D6.0035729A.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:47:42 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files - TT version Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Rich, And, just to throw another wrinkle in the sheets, I discovered the other day on my Windows machine that when I tried to distill a Word file with Times New Roman and Arial included, that Distiller embedded Microsoft's TT version, and not the PS versions that Adobe includes on its Resource > Fonts folder. on both, Arial and Times?!? how weird! I thought that TT-versions only appear if distiller uses the fonts included by the PS driver. In the case of Arial and Times it should know of the 14 standard fonts and dont include anything. Or is this disabled by checking embed and subset? Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 9:20:51-GMT,2488;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA22868 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA00680; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:15:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:14:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA00605; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:14:18 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567D6.0037F6B6.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:13:15 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] text displays, but does not print Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Marc, On Acroread 4? Does it seem like an accident or wanted? I've heard that in PDF1.3 (Acrobat 4) you are allowed to hide graphics (maybe text too). Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== I have downloaded a document (a form to be printed, filled out and returned in hard copy). The document displays fine, but when printed the text (except for two regions near the top) does not appear. This is the first time I have encountered this. Any suggestions? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 9:38:10-GMT,2909;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA23182 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:38:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01885; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:33:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:30:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA01544; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:30:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199908230930.CAA65120@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:30:33 -0700 Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files - TT version From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Hi Rich, > > And, just to throw another wrinkle in the sheets, I discovered the other > day on my Windows machine that when I tried to distill a Word file with Times > New Roman and Arial included, that Distiller embedded Microsoft's TT > version, and not the PS versions that Adobe includes on its Resource > > Fonts folder. > > on both, Arial and Times?!? how weird! I thought that TT-versions only > appear if distiller uses the fonts included by the PS driver. In the case > of Arial and Times it should know of the 14 standard fonts and dont include > anything. Or is this disabled by checking embed and subset? > > Regards, > Laura Dietz > > =================================================================== > Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany > =================================================================== Hello Laura: Yes it does indeed. I discovered this fact through recent testing. There must be something in the PS that Microsoft writes that ensures that their TT fonts are included/embedded, rather than the PS fonts that Adobe installs with Acrobat. Another instance of craziness, and confusion, caused by Adobe and Microsoft. Take care, now. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 10:17:17-GMT,2093;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23920 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:17:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03502; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:57:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:54:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03296; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:54:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908230111.UAA23208@everglades.binc.net> References: <199908230111.UAA23208@everglades.binc.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:58:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Apply Security Settings to muliple PDF files. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am not a hacker, but was testing the limits of what could be done > before offering advise to a client similar to the rest of Steve's > comments. Unless you disable printing, nothing is *really* secure. Here are a couple PDFzone 'tips' that may be useful -- ° http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/digpost-add2.html ° http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/tips/tip0048.html rgds ~ Kurt _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 11:13:31-GMT,2729;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24975 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 05:13:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA08018; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:03:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:02:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07849; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:02:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199908230111.UAA23208@everglades.binc.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:02:59 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] How to Apply Security Settings to muliple PDF files. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA07832 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 4:58 AM -0500 8/23/99, Kurt Foss wrote: > > I am not a hacker, but was testing the limits of what could be done > > before offering advise to a client similar to the rest of Steve's > > comments. > >Unless you disable printing, nothing is *really* secure. And even then, it's not, since there's always things like doing a "Print Screen" to capture the screen to the clipboard or a graphics file. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 13:46:42-GMT,2336;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28012 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:46:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21134; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:37:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:33:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20724; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:33:24 -0500 From: jrb@artimex.com Message-Id: <199908231333.IAA23286@newton.pconline.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:32:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Catalog 3 GPF X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I recall seeing a reference to this error, but cannot find it in the archive. I am printing Postscript from PageMaker 6.5, then distilling with Distiller 3 all on Windows 95. The resulting PDF files look good but Catalog 3 will fail consistently with any file whose Pagemaker original has a graphic image in EPS format with text in the image. (The client has produced many inserted tables in eps format) Error details indicates Catalog produced a GPF in module COMPCORE.DLL. The index is being built on a Pentium using a hard drive with 1.1 GB free space. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. Joseph R. Brashear email: jrb@artimex.com President phone: 612-374-4643 The One-Off CD Shop Minneapolis fax: 612-374-3901 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 17:14:16-GMT,1965;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04251 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10971; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:04:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:02:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10703; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:02:39 -0500 Message-ID: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E50100F5A8@MV_EXCHANGE_2> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] IE and Named Destinations Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:02:18 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Has anyone been able to make named destinations work with Internet Explorer and Adobe Acrobat 4.0? I have tried both #MyDestName and #nameddest=MyDestName. They still work fine with Netscape Navigator, but I understood that they were supposed to work with Acrobat 4.0. (I am using IE 5.0.) Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 18:06:20-GMT,4496;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05700 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:06:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16092; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:57:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:54:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15882; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:54:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199908231754.KAA40148@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:54:39 -0700 Subject: [PDF] ouch. i've been bit, too. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Dov Isaacs , Kurt Foss , Karl De Abrew Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Well, it's my turn to get the Acro*Bug. As most of you may know, over the last several weeks I've helped Sue from Thompson-Shore, Bill from California, Don from Massachusetts, and perhaps others that I've since forgotten, with problems making PDF files for Press using Distiller 4. No, I didn't forget Richard from New York...his was another issue entirely. The common thread in all this is that color or grayscale TIFFs failed in the resulting PDF file. Using PitStop, I would get a message "no error" and at that point my system would simply barf and shut down. Then I would open the PDF again, and use QBox to check the image. It shows Form XObject. I know only that this is a highly technical term, but in doing a search on Adobe's basic web site, nothing shows up. Or, if it's there, its buried so deep that I don't have time to sift through hundreds of docs to find it. At first, it seemed as if these problems were related to Pagemaker files. Then last weekend I had an epic struggle with a simple ad for Bill, and now today I have just burnt a couple hours myself with a project that, of course, is due. The issue seems to appear in Quark files as well. Both Bill's problems, and now mine, are using Quark. His (3.32 on Windows) - mine (4.04 on the Mac). Same issue - same results. I can fix the problem by: 1* converting all images to EPS files -- a pain in the you-know-where; 2* distilling the exact same PS file using Distiller 3.02. I now have come to realize that over the last several weeks I haven't made any of my own files with TIFFs and Acrobat 4. I've been working with everyone else's problems. What struck me as odd this morning is that in May I used the same Quark file to make a PDF very quickly, and very successfully. Today made a few type changes to the file, and made some color corrections to the images. That's all, so why would it fail? After several tries, wherein I received differing PS error messages, I decided to turn off the DSC. This time, I got a PDF file all right, but it had those awful and unnerving Form XObject errors. I don't have time to change all of the images to EPS, so I thought -- what the hay -- I'll just try Distiller 3.02. The first person that guesses what happened wins a prize. That's right, I win. The PDF was created just like it was supposed to be. So I went back into my archives and checked the earlier file. Guess what? My previous PDF was created with Distiller 3.02. It's been a woeful week. Now that I've gotten that off my chest, I will return to finish my project with Distiller 3.02, and get down on my knees and pray that Adobe can provide us with a fix, sooner than later. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 18:47:50-GMT,2587;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06874 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:47:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20831; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:40:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:38:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20632; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:38:08 -0500 Message-ID: <37C194A1.3D91D79E@vdiprinting.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:36:46 -0500 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] ouch. i've been bit, too. References: <199908231754.KAA40148@mail.inficad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Users of PressWise (formally Imation Publishing Software, now Senicsoft) had been warned not to use files distilled with Acrobat 4 with that application, but to use only Acrobat 3.02. I never did get a specific explanation as to why, but I am guessing it might be similar to what you experienced. You may want to contact them. Also, using Distiller 4 but setting it to be Acrobat 3 compatible makes it work with PressWise. You may want to give that option a try. Rich Sprague wrote: > > I don't have time to change all of the images to EPS, so I thought -- what > the hay -- I'll just try Distiller 3.02. The first person that guesses what > happened wins a prize. That's right, I win. The PDF was created just like it > was supposed to be. > > So I went back into my archives and checked the earlier file. Guess what? My > previous PDF was created with Distiller 3.02. > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 19:22:06-GMT,2299;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07771 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:22:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24982; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:17:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:15:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24722; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:15:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:21:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We are considering a switch from Pagemaker to Framemaker or InDesign (depending on the project) and wonder what experiences anyone has had in PDF creation with them, especially using TOC and indexes to generate hyperlinks in PDF documents. thanks ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education 4200 East University blvd. Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH 45042 http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 19:24:17-GMT,2427;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07890 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:24:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25218; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:19:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:18:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25094; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:18:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199908231918.MAA59281@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:18:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] ouch. i've been bit, too. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: prepress@vdiprinting.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Users of PressWise (formally Imation Publishing Software, now Senicsoft) had > been warned not to use files distilled with Acrobat 4 with that application, > but to use only Acrobat 3.02. I never did get a specific explanation as to > why, but I am guessing it might be similar to what you experienced. You may > want to contact them. > > Also, using Distiller 4 but setting it to be Acrobat 3 compatible makes it > work with PressWise. You may want to give that option a try. Thank you for your reply. I tried this option, and Distiller sloooooowly created the PDF. The file opened, but still had the Form XObject problem with the images. Also, the file bloated from 4.4 mb to 8.7...which is consistent with what I'd expect based on Adobe's calculations. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 20:12:01-GMT,1983;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09687 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:11:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29948; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:04:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:02:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29741; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:02:45 -0500 Message-id: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:09:52 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >We are considering a switch from Pagemaker to Framemaker or InDesign >(depending on the project) and wonder what experiences anyone has had in >PDF creation with them, especially using TOC and indexes to generate >hyperlinks in PDF documents. InDesign is a dream to create PDFs from. You just choose File > Export and select PDF options. It's also very fast. However, it doesn't support long-document features like TOCs and indexes in version 1.0. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 20:26:57-GMT,2360;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10150 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:26:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31375; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:17:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:16:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31108; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:16:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990823131605.006f08f0@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca> X-Sender: lindseym@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:16:10 -0700 To: pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com From: Lindsey Thomas Martin Subject: [PDF] Re: ouch. Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:54 8/23/1999 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: >Well, it's my turn to get the Acro*Bug. >Then I would open the PDF again, and use QBox to check the image. It shows >Form XObject. I know only that this is a highly technical term, but in doing >a search on Adobe's basic web site, nothing shows up. Have a look at section 7.13 in the manual for PDF1.3. I didn't search for, and read, all sections on Form XObjects but did note that they are used in trapping. LTM (Mr) Lindsey Thomas Martin, Publication Production The Fraser Institute http://www.fraserinstitute.ca 4th floor, 1770 Burrard Street, Vancouver BC V6J 3G7 Canada Tel: (604) 688-0221 x584 Fax: (604) 688-8539 e-mail: lindseym@fraserinstitute.ca _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 20:32:13-GMT,2501;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10584 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:32:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32358; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:26:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:24:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32220; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:24:42 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:23:48 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Cc: Susan Gertz Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Susan, I can't say anything about InDesign, as I do not belong to its testers. In Framemaker, the TOC generation is built in, as well as the index generation. With the appropriate settings, there are no real problems to get the resulting PDFs completely interlinked. After you have mastered the learning phase with Framemaker, you will barely want another tool... Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >We are considering a switch from Pagemaker to Framemaker or InDesign >(depending on the project) and wonder what experiences anyone has had in >PDF creation with them, especially using TOC and indexes to generate >hyperlinks in PDF documents. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 20:49:39-GMT,2273;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11366 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:49:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02175; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:43:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:41:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01894; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <19990823204518.3947.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:45:18 -0700 (PDT) From: John Posada Subject: [PDF] PDF to Web To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, guys. I have not upgraded to Acrobat 4 yet. However, I could be convinced based on the new functionality of converting a multi-page web to a pdf. However, before I do, I'd like to see what it "adds", such as page numbering, headers, footers, bookmarks, thumbnails, etc. Therefore, anyone have a pdf that was created frrom a multi-page web site that might be on a web or accessible to me so that I can see what one looks like and to use it to make the recomendation to my management? Thanks === John Posada, Merck Research Laboratories Sr Technical Writer, WinHelp and html (work) john_posada@merck.com (pers) jposada01@yahoo.com 732-594-0873 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 21:21:16-GMT,2921;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13158 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:21:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06130; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:15:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:12:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05895; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1D48@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:09:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Unfortunately, they made a decision to replace Times with Times New Roman, >and Helvetica with Arial. I suppose they did this to keep Microsoft happy, >but I don't know. >When Acrobat looks for fonts, it first looks within itself for >embedded/subsets. If it can't find any, it goes to the system fonts. Still >out of luck, it will look to its own font resources which it installs with >the application. I've done some checking and I think I have narrowed down the source of the screen artifacts that I've been noticing (see my previous note entitled 'Lines and other Artifacts using Acrobat 4.0 in Windows 95/98'). The artifacts appear when scrolling a page, and they only seem to cluster around (you guessed it) a line of type in Helvetica, with the new ArialMT font being substituted. As an aside, the substitution of Arial for Helvetica has interesting consequences for many of Adobe's own documents, especially the IACREF document. The colored boxes set behind the heading type no longer make any sense. I wonder if there might be a way to add fonts to the base 14? I own (but do not use) ATM, and therefore have a perfectly legal copy of Times and Helvetica, which I could easily copy into the fonts folder of Acrobat, but something tells me this won't work. Anybody have any ideas? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 21:32:04-GMT,2616;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13750 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:32:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07304; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:26:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:24:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07174; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:24:41 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:26:03 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: [PDF] Those mysterious Form X Objects Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA07170 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>> "Rich Sprague" wrote: ...Then I would open the PDF again, and use QBox to check the image. It shows Form XObject. I know only that this is a highly technical term, but in doing a search on Adobe's basic web site, nothing shows up. Or, if it's there, its buried so deep that I don't have time to sift through hundreds of docs to find it... Can anybody point me to some solid information about these Form X Objects? What are the criteria for an image being converted into one and how can I get them to act reliably? I ask this because I have just created a PDF containing one vital graphic image (Distiller 3.02). This graphic appears on some machines and only shows blank white on others. It appears to be totally arbitrary, independent of platform (we're all running Acrobat 3 here). My account exec is panicing! Panic aside, it'd be nice to get some solid info on these elusive little buggers. Many Thanks, Jeff Sauber S&S Adv. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 22:14:33-GMT,3880;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15697 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:14:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11919; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:10:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:09:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11834; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:09:23 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:12:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Those mysterious Form X Objects From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Script: \\filterscript.mml Message-Id: <22091605919630@acquiredknowledge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: "Jeff Sauber" >To: >Subject: [PDF] Those mysterious Form X Objects >Date: Mon, Aug 23, 1999, 1:26 PM > >>>> "Rich Sprague" wrote: > > ...Then I would open the PDF again, and use QBox to check the image. It shows > Form XObject. I know only that this is a highly technical term, but in doing > a search on Adobe's basic web site, nothing shows up. Or, if it's there, its > buried so deep that I don't have time to sift through hundreds of docs to > find it... > > Can anybody point me to some solid information about these Form X Objects? > What are the criteria for an image being converted into one and how can I > get them to act reliably? I ask this because I have just created a PDF > containing one vital graphic image (Distiller 3.02). This graphic appears > on some machines and only shows blank white on others. It appears to be > totally arbitrary, independent of platform (we're all running Acrobat 3 > here). My account exec is panicing! > Panic aside, it'd be nice to get some solid info on these elusive little buggers. > The best information about XObjects is contained in Adobe's PDF 1.3 specification which is available for download from Adobe's web site. XObjects represent a type of data. Just as fonts are a data type in PDF files, so are XObjects. Currently, (as of version 1.3) three different types of data are stored as XObjects, images, forms, and passthrough PostScript. Usually when Distiller encounters an image in the PostScript file, it is converted to an XObject whose Subtype is Image. This could be thought of as a regular image. When does an image get converted to a Form XObject, you say? If you use OPI or your application generates OPI comments in the PS file AND you configure Distiller to preserve OPI comments, your image may become a Form XObject instead of an Image XObject. Images are converted to Form XObjects if the above conditions are met and if OPI 2.0 comments are used or no proxy image is contained in the PS file (Omit TIFF & EPS). -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 22:22:53-GMT,1975;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15969 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:22:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12759; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:19:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:18:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12658; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:18:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <22091605919630@acquiredknowledge.com> References: <22091605919630@acquiredknowledge.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:13:26 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Those mysterious Form X Objects Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The best information about XObjects is contained in Adobe's PDF 1.3 > specification which is available for download from Adobe's web site. or from PDFzone.com @ http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/pdfspec13.html ~ Kurt ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 22:35:58-GMT,3610;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16325 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:35:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13858; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:32:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:30:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13669; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:30:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:25:53 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] NEW> Nominate "Best of" PDFs by 8/25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The Adobe Developers Conference for Acrobat is being held Monday, August 30 -- two days prior to Seybold SF's PDF Day -- in San Jose. 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It is *not* necessary to complete all fields -- only those for which you want to make a nomination. ______________________________________ Winning entries will be announced on PDFzone.com. --#-- ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 2:15:38-GMT,3510;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19718 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA31482; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:53:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:52:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA31271; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:52:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895352AE@perm02.woodside.com.au> References: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895352AE@perm02.woodside.com.au> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:53:36 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA31267 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9:03 AM +0800 8/24/99, Wraight, David D. wrote: >Once again I havent seen anything about InDesign PDF Integration, but from >what I've read it sounds like another Pagemaker -> PDF process (using >PDFWriter). NOTHING could be farther from the truth!!! InDesign uses the Adobe Acrobat/PDF SDK to write direct to PDF without the need for any extras like PDFWriter or even Distiller! In addition to removing the middle men, the even biggest win here is that ID works in the same graphics space (ie. the Adobe Imaging Model) that PDF does - so there is NO fidelity loss when going to PDF! >Framemaker is THE tool of choice for creating Long/Technical documents. That's true - there isn't anything better (IMHO) out there...Which is an even biggest shame that Adobe has dropped the ball on it over the last few years :(. >It >is tightly integrated with Acrobat - automatically creating Bookmarks, >Hyperlinks, Notes, pdfmarks etc etc. Tightly integrated is pushing things a LOT. All Frame does is generate Postscript documents with pdfmarks inside them and then have Distiller process them automatically behind your back. However, it's a solution that works quite nicely! Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 2:15:42-GMT,4211;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19724 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:15:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29822; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:40:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:39:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29693; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:39:15 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990823181241.00b90dd0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:38:21 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Cc: "Wraight, David D." In-Reply-To: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895352AE@perm02.woodside.com .au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ See **** below. - Dov At 8/23/99 06:03 PM , Wraight, David D. wrote: >Once again I havent seen anything about InDesign PDF Integration, but from >what I've read it sounds like another Pagemaker -> PDF process (using >PDFWriter). **** Absolutely not! **** First of all, PageMaker's PDF is not via PDFWriter. It it was, it couldn't **** possibly handle any .EPS graphics, whatsoever. Its integration is via **** distillation of PostScript. **** InDesign's PDF integration is totally different from any existing program. **** InDesign actually creates PDF natively from its own internal objects as **** well as from embedded and/or linked .EPS graphics. InDesign effectively **** has a full Adobe PostScript 3 interpreter builtin to fully interpret all **** arbitrary PostScript that can (and does) occur in .EPS graphics. >Framemaker is THE tool of choice for creating Long/Technical documents. It >is tightly integrated with Acrobat - automatically creating Bookmarks, >Hyperlinks, Notes, pdfmarks etc etc. **** I would most fully concur. The only FrameMaker documents that would be **** better off done in InDesign are those that are graphic intensive, relatively **** short, unstructured, and with no need for automated TOCs, footnotes, etc. >A good site to get some more info about Framemaker (and join the user group) >is FrameUsers (http://www.frameusers.com) they have lotsa of comparisons >between Frame and Word as well. > >Also look on the Adobe web site for the comparison between Frame and >InDesign. >http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/NOTES/bf96.htm. > >Hope this helps. > >Dave........... >---------------------- > > I can't say anything about InDesign, as I do not belong to its testers. > > In Framemaker, the TOC generation is built in, as well as the index > > generation. With the appropriate settings, there are no real problems to > > get the resulting PDFs completely interlinked. After you have mastered the > > learning phase with Framemaker, you will barely want another tool... >-------------------- > > >We are considering a switch from Pagemaker to Framemaker or InDesign > > >(depending on the project) and wonder what experiences anyone has had in > > >PDF creation with them, especially using TOC and indexes to generate > > >hyperlinks in PDF documents. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 2:15:43-GMT,3001;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19729 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:15:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26582; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:03:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:01:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26420; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:01:18 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895352AE@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:03:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Once again I havent seen anything about InDesign PDF Integration, but from what I've read it sounds like another Pagemaker -> PDF process (using PDFWriter). Framemaker is THE tool of choice for creating Long/Technical documents. It is tightly integrated with Acrobat - automatically creating Bookmarks, Hyperlinks, Notes, pdfmarks etc etc. A good site to get some more info about Framemaker (and join the user group) is FrameUsers (http://www.frameusers.com) they have lotsa of comparisons between Frame and Word as well. Also look on the Adobe web site for the comparison between Frame and InDesign. http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/NOTES/bf96.htm. Hope this helps. Dave........... ---------------------- > I can't say anything about InDesign, as I do not belong to its testers. > In Framemaker, the TOC generation is built in, as well as the index > generation. With the appropriate settings, there are no real problems to > get the resulting PDFs completely interlinked. After you have mastered the > learning phase with Framemaker, you will barely want another tool... -------------------- > >We are considering a switch from Pagemaker to Framemaker or InDesign > >(depending on the project) and wonder what experiences anyone has had in > >PDF creation with them, especially using TOC and indexes to generate > >hyperlinks in PDF documents. ============================ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 2:22:08-GMT,3537;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20025 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:22:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01353; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:18:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:17:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01220; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:17:13 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895352B9@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:19:54 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ (phew, created quite a stir here :) ). So I think we have established I was wrong about the PDFWriter :) ... The point being and the original thread was about the two products Frame and InDesign and hopefully we have helped the originator make up their mind or at least provided some useful pointers... The sort of information about the SDK and Imaging Model is news to me, and I'm sure it's buried in tech docs or whitepapers(???) can you share some URLs? so I can learn about it as well... I would love to see another product on the market do as good a job of producing LONG technical documents with a Fully Linked TOC / Indexed PDF than FM. Not to mention it's ability to import almost every useful file format around and control revisions etc etc etc. I would also love to see Adobe push the product much harder - it was pushed hard when it was a Frame product and Adobe should be proud of the enhancements they have made, but alas, everyone's requests seem to fall on deaf Adobe ears (or so it would seem). Dave .......... (some days it's just not worth getting out of bed :) ) ... ------------------------ > InDesign uses the Adobe Acrobat/PDF SDK to write direct to > PDF without the need for any extras like PDFWriter or even Distiller! > In addition to removing the middle men, the even biggest win here is > that ID works in the same graphics space (ie. the Adobe Imaging > Model) that PDF does - so there is NO fidelity loss when going to PDF! ----------------------- > That's true - there isn't anything better (IMHO) out > there...Which is an even biggest shame that Adobe has dropped the > ball on it over the last few years :(. ----------------------- > Tightly integrated is pushing things a LOT. All Frame does > is generate Postscript documents with pdfmarks inside them and then > have Distiller process them automatically behind your back. However, > it's a solution that works quite nicely! > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 2:37:22-GMT,5279;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20394 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02787; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:33:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:32:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02657; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:32:40 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990823191120.00b8cd70@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:28:26 -0700 To: "Wraight, David D." From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895352B7@perm02.woodside.com .au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ That is correct. You do NOT need any part of Acrobat installed to create PDF from InDesign. You need at least the free Acrobat 4 Reader installed to be able to view or print the resultant PDF file. Fonts are embedded directly as are color profiles when appropriate. Information about the implementation is not generally published! (8-)> InDesign's ability to deal produce PDF at this point is primarily related to great looking graphics and typography with exceptional fidelity to the original document, if not better. This is not FrameMaker in terms of its ability to generate "structured" PDF. In terms of next versions of FrameMaker and the features, Adobe has a fairly strict policy with regards to such announcements. I understand, as a user of many brands of software, the desire to know exactly what is coming and when. On the other hand, such pre-announcements tend to terribly backfire in terms of flexibility to add or delete features based on schedules and market conditions, and to book revenue in a timely fashion. Announce too early and you are accused of vaporware! So, please be patient. New versions and the details thereof will be announced when it is appropriate ... i.e., availability within a reasonably short timeframe can be expected with a high level of certainly; no vaporware! - Dov At 8/23/99 07:06 PM , Wraight, David D. wrote: >Thanks for the info Dov, > >//// I did notice that in one of the feature lists for InDesign it details the ability >//// to create PDF directly, without the need for Distiller, so am I to assume that one >//// doesn't need to have Exchange or Acrobat to create a PDF from InDesign? >//// How is colour/font management preserved - Internally through this direct >//// generation? > > > **** InDesign's PDF integration is totally different from any existing program. > > **** InDesign actually creates PDF natively from its own internal objects as > > **** well as from embedded and/or linked .EPS graphics. InDesign effectively > > **** has a full Adobe PostScript 3 interpreter builtin to fully interpret all > > **** arbitrary PostScript that can (and does) occur in .EPS graphics. > > >//// I couldn't find that level of information? Or is it tucked away in one of the white >//// papers? (URL???) .. Also something else that I couldn't find, was >//// InDesign's ability to create things like Bookmarks/Links etc in PDF >//// - does it have any of FM capabilities? (URL??) .. > > > **** I would most fully concur. The only FrameMaker documents that would be > > **** better off done in InDesign are those that are graphic intensive, relatively > > **** short, unstructured, and with no need for automated TOCs, footnotes, etc. > > >//// There is still a succint lack of information about the new version of Framemaker, >//// I'm not starting any rumours, but it would be really good to know what/where/when >//// the new version will be? Having to plan information systems around a future >//// product is difficult, questions like: "Will it have PDF support?", "Will it support >//// pdfmarks?", "How are fonts going to be handled?" etc etc etc... > >//// I realise your not the Framemaker focal point but perhaps some information >//// could be forthcoming from one of the FM department heads?? > >Appreciate your comments. > >Dave.................... _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 2:40:55-GMT,3594;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20477 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:40:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00363; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:10:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:08:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00269; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:08:38 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895352B7@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Dov Isaacs'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:06:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the info Dov, //// I did notice that in one of the feature lists for InDesign it details the ability //// to create PDF directly, without the need for Distiller, so am I to assume that one //// doesn't need to have Exchange or Acrobat to create a PDF from InDesign? //// How is colour/font management preserved - Internally through this direct //// generation? > **** InDesign's PDF integration is totally different from any existing > program. > **** InDesign actually creates PDF natively from its own internal objects > as > **** well as from embedded and/or linked .EPS graphics. InDesign > effectively > **** has a full Adobe PostScript 3 interpreter builtin to fully interpret > all > **** arbitrary PostScript that can (and does) occur in .EPS graphics. > //// I couldn't find that level of information? Or is it tucked away in one of the white //// papers? (URL???) .. Also something else that I couldn't find, was //// InDesign's ability to create things like Bookmarks/Links etc in PDF //// - does it have any of FM capabilities? (URL??) .. > **** I would most fully concur. The only FrameMaker documents that would > be > **** better off done in InDesign are those that are graphic intensive, > relatively > **** short, unstructured, and with no need for automated TOCs, footnotes, > etc. > //// There is still a succint lack of information about the new version of Framemaker, //// I'm not starting any rumours, but it would be really good to know what/where/when //// the new version will be? Having to plan information systems around a future //// product is difficult, questions like: "Will it have PDF support?", "Will it support //// pdfmarks?", "How are fonts going to be handled?" etc etc etc... //// I realise your not the Framemaker focal point but perhaps some information //// could be forthcoming from one of the FM department heads?? Appreciate your comments. Dave.................... _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 2:48:46-GMT,3152;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20675 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03793; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:44:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:43:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03689; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:43:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895352B7@perm02.woodside.com.au> References: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895352B7@perm02.woodside.com.au> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:43:57 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Cc: "'Dov Isaacs'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA03685 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:06 AM +0800 8/24/99, Wraight, David D. wrote: >//// I did notice that in one of the feature lists for InDesign it details >the ability >//// to create PDF directly, without the need for Distiller, so am I to >assume that one >//// doesn't need to have Exchange or Acrobat to create a PDF from >InDesign? That is correct - it's all built in! >//// How is colour/font management preserved - Internally through this >direct >//// generation? You can set all the same PDF settings inside of ID when you save as PDF. >//// Also something else that I couldn't find, was >//// InDesign's ability to create things like Bookmarks/Links etc in PDF >//// - does it have any of FM capabilities? (URL??) .. There is no HyperLink support (either internal or external/URL) support in ID 1.0. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 2:48:49-GMT,3147;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20686 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:48:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03792; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:44:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:43:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03663; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:43:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990823181241.00b90dd0@mail-303> References: <4.2.0.58.19990823181241.00b90dd0@mail-303> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:31:01 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Cc: "Wraight, David D." Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA03659 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 6:38 PM -0700 8/23/99, Dov Isaacs wrote: >**** InDesign's PDF integration is totally different from any >existing program. For the most part, though it's not all that different from how Illustrator works with PDF, in that they both use the Adobe Imaging Model internally. >**** InDesign actually creates PDF natively from its own internal objects as >**** well as from embedded and/or linked .EPS graphics. InDesign effectively >**** has a full Adobe PostScript 3 interpreter builtin to fully interpret all >**** arbitrary PostScript that can (and does) occur in .EPS graphics. I don't know where you get your info, but I am pretty sure that this is not the case. There is no PS interpreter built into ID - it uses the Acrobat/PDF SDK to do all the work, and I don't recall a PS interpreter in there either. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 4:36:27-GMT,4355;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23226 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11704; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:25:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:20:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11267; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:20:28 -0500 Message-ID: <37C21CF1.6720@acm.org> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:17:54 -0500 From: "Stephen D. Poe" Organization: ... X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] ...Security Settings & Copying Text... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:21:58 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Michael H. Martel" > Subject: [PDF] How to Apply Security Settings to muliple PDF files. > ...text deleted... > We've been using PDF format for some documents that can't be changed. > Management needs to be 100% convinced that these documents _can't_ be > changed by anyone. Using Acrobat 3.x the worst you could do was to remove > a page. Now with Acrobat 4.x you can change the text in the pdf's. > ...text deleted... > The last question I have, is is there a way within Distiller to produce a > PDF that is completely read only without the need for passwords ? So that > there is _absolutely_ no way to change the contents ? > > I'm open to any and all solutions, including the all too familiar "it > can't be done". I'll summarize to the list if there's an interest. > > Thanks! > > Michael Michael - Just a couple of comments. 1. "Can't change" There is no such thing as "perfect security" or "100%". You continue to request higher and higher levels of security, but at some point the security becomes too expensive both in terms of cost and difficulty of use by the users. The proper question to ask your bosses is how much security do they really need? I encounter this question fairly often when dealing with clients and potential clients (including in the banking, finance, securities, and insurance industries - which tend to be paranoid anyway). I usually start with "What level of security do you have now?", followed by "What justification do you have for a higher level of security here?" The documents can't be changed by anyone? How about if I just create a new PDF file that looks like the old one but with the changes I want? What is the original format that the PDF file is replacing? How secure is the original from changes? I suggest you start with these questions and go from there. 2. "Encryption" PDF 1.2 uses 40 bit RC4 encryption, which is mildly safe. See "http://www.hedgie.com/passwords/acrobat2.html" for a good discussion of the process. See the archives of sci.crypt (or the hacker/cracker newsgroups) for discussions on breaking it. The book "Cracking DES: Secrets of Encryption Research, Wiretap Politics & Chip Design" by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, John Gilmore (Editor), May 1998, O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 1565925203 is a good reference as well. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer The Xenos Group http://www.xenosgroup.com spoe@xenosgroup.com 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:01:54-GMT,2519;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29397 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18623; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:04:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:03:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18502; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:03:09 -0500 Message-ID: <31A657F37655D111B31300A0C95518758D6B2A@ZIRCON> From: Nathan Harper To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Searching a collection of PDF files (what are the options?) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:03:40 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, We currently provide web users with full text searching of a collection of PDF files through TopicPDF. Results are shown in a list, and user entered search criteria are "highlighted" in the PDF when a document is chosen from the results list (every occurrence of the word entered is "selected" in the PDF viewer). Does anyone else know of a similar tool (that actually highlights the search criteria?). We have looked into Netscape Enterprise Server, but it does not do the highlighting. What about IIS? Is there a PDF full text search plugin? Thanks, Nathan. Nathan Harper Information Technology Project Manager ---------------------------------------------------------------- Anstat Pty Ltd PO Box 447 South Melbourne VIC 3205 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 3 9278 1111 Fax: +61 3 9278 1115 Email: nathan@anstat.com.au Internet: http://www.anstat.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:05:11-GMT,2459;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29539 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:05:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13687; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:34:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:33:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13576; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:33:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241233.FAA54033@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:33:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> > Well... it makes perfectly good PDF files (as I noted before), >> > so the argument would be - why switch it off and mess up the >> > people working with PDF. >> >> How would turning this off mess up people? I'm messed up >> because I can't >> pre-flight or edit the PDFs with the Form XObjects > > Sorry, the phrase should have been "...and mess up the people > working with OPI". As I've said, the PDF files aren't broken, > so from a programmers point of view it isn't Distiller that should > be changed. From a pragmatic point of view, you want to preflight > these files, but I'm not sure you're pointing a finger at the > right piece of software. That may be true. But in the meantime, let's make it clear to people that don't use OPI that this check box SHOULD BE LEFT UNCHECKED, which is not the default. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:05:29-GMT,2254;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29561 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:05:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12935; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:27:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:26:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12741; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:26:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241226.FAA53163@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:26:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? From: "Rich Sprague" To: Max Wyss CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > well, it may not necessarily be Microsoft shareholders, unless they own > Monotype. The Helvetica / Times lookalikes are from Monotype (an, as far as > I know well reputated type foundry). Monotype is now owned by Agfa Corp. My point is that Microsoft's shareholders are already happy due to the company's phenomenal success. And, Arial and Times New Roman are installed on every new Win machine, aren't they? Don't these come from Microsoft? >>Actually, they did it to keep their shareholder's happy...Microsoft's >>shareholders are already happy. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:05:34-GMT,2260;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29575 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11077; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:11:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:10:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10883; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:09:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241209.FAA51161@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:09:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >> On the other hand, when would I need to check the Preserve >> OPI Comments box? > > When you are using OPI. No other time. >> >> So, if I can make my PDF without this box checked, and I >> don't need it, why >> is it a default setting. Wouldn't it save everyone a whole bunch of >> heartache and pain to deselect it as a default? > > Well... it makes perfectly good PDF files (as I noted before), > so the argument would be - why switch it off and mess up the > people working with PDF. How would turning this off mess up people? I'm messed up because I can't pre-flight or edit the PDFs with the Form XObjects r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:05:38-GMT,2278;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29585 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:05:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12663; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:25:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:24:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12508; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:24:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241224.FAA52931@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:24:17 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>Finally, how does InDesign figure into this equation? > > Good question, but as I said in my last posting, it's kind of hard to see > how both OPI 1.3 and 2.0 can be recorded without the nested Form and Image > XObject structure. So if InDesign generates PDF files with both OPI > versions in them it will probably do the same as Distiller. Okay, one more question. My name is Average User. In 25 words or less, what do I need to know about OPI 1.3 and 2.0? Which programs use which, and what do they do for me? I'm pretending I know nothing about this subject, which is not quite the truth, but almost, as I have no experience with OPI. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:05:52-GMT,2448;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29603 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:05:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11910; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:19:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:18:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11810; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:18:35 -0500 From: SandyHov@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:17:45 EDT Subject: [PDF] Document loses paper-colored box when printing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Folks, We created 2 different documents in PageMaker (on the PC). In both, a paper-colored box was placed over some text on the master page and new text was placed over the paper-colored box. We printed the documents to PS, then distilled them in Distiller 3.0, checked them then sent them off to 2 different customers. In both cases, when printed by the customer, both the master page text and the text added on the page print - in other words, the PDF is losing the paper-colored box. I printed the P65 file and the PDF from our location with no problem. We're using Acrobat Exchange/Reader/Distiller 3.0. Maybe our customers are using 4.0 (I don't know). This wasn't a big problem in these situations but could be in the future. We've done this many times before with no problems. Has anyone seen this? Thx for your help, Sandy Hovatter Data Designs, Cleveland, OH 440-427-1322 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:05:53-GMT,2734;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29608 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:05:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11356; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:13:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:12:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11192; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:12:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824131053.0174f7d0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:10:53 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, From: Martin Bailey Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. In-Reply-To: <002a01beee27$60262380$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990824122159.011da830@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 12:54 24/08/99 +0100, Aandi Inston wrote: >No documented interface to comment parsing in Distiller or any >other Adobe RIP, so far as I know. Not even any documentation on >what comments Distiller does parse (who'd want to know a thing >like that!) Shame. >I hear there are other RIPs on the market which do provide >this sort of interface - you might be familiar with them, >Martin... :-) To be fair, so does the Jaws RIP from 5D. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:00-GMT,2432;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29595 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:05:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12946; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:27:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:26:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12781; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:26:26 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:26:31 +0100 Message-ID: <002f01beee2b$e57977e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908241209.FAA51161@mail.inficad.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > Well... it makes perfectly good PDF files (as I noted before), > > so the argument would be - why switch it off and mess up the > > people working with PDF. > > How would turning this off mess up people? I'm messed up > because I can't > pre-flight or edit the PDFs with the Form XObjects Sorry, the phrase should have been "...and mess up the people working with OPI". As I've said, the PDF files aren't broken, so from a programmers point of view it isn't Distiller that should be changed. From a pragmatic point of view, you want to preflight these files, but I'm not sure you're pointing a finger at the right piece of software. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:01-GMT,2976;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29617 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:05:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12664; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:25:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:24:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12539; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:24:26 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:24:31 +0100 Message-ID: <002e01beee2b$9ed339c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >>>Unfortunately, they made a decision to replace Times with > Times New Roman, > >>>and Helvetica with Arial. I suppose they did this to keep > Microsoft happy, > >>>but I don't know. What is the real problem here? There seems to be outrage that the holy Helvetica has been replaced by the ungodly Arial, but what is wrong with that? That is, why shouldn't Acrobat Reader use Arial for screen display of a PDF file which requests Helvetica, so long as the metrics are exactly preserved? ALL PostScript printers offer something called Helvetica, and that will be used on printing. These have always come from a number of different foundries, and are often Bitstream Swiss fonts in clones, but I've not seen much upset over that. I don't believe Distiller makes any such substitution: it is purely a display thing. The opposite conversion is often made by printer drivers: a request for Arial is used as Helvetica when printing; again, no outrage. I would imagine Adobe couldn't see any reason why this is inherently evil, and nor can I. I can see mention of some bugs that might (or might not) be related to this, but no firm reason why it is a problem. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:05-GMT,3757;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29625 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11413; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:14:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:13:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11317; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:13:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824130906.0174b210@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:09:06 +0100 To: "Rich Sprague" , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. Cc: martinb@harlequin.co.uk, Dov Isaacs In-Reply-To: <199908241146.EAA48371@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 04:45 24/08/99 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: >Let me try to make this simple. I'm a designer, production manager, >whatever. I want to make a PDF file designed for Press. > >Why do I need the Preserve OPI Comments box checked to begin with? I use >Pagemaker 6.52 or Quark 3.x or 4.x. What good will this do me? I know it >does me harm. What harm am I going to face if I don't Preserve the OPI >Comments? > >On the other hand, when would I need to check the Preserve OPI Comments box? If your workflow involves the use of low-resolution proxy images for design staff that are replaced by an OPI server downstream of the distillation to PDF then you need the box checked. If you don't use an OPI server then you don't. >So, if I can make my PDF without this box checked, and I don't need it, why >is it a default setting. Wouldn't it save everyone a whole bunch of >heartache and pain to deselect it as a default? The extra processing time to generate the OPI and associated objects and the extra file size to hold them are pretty minimal. I suspect that Adobe probably did not expect the added file complexity to cause any problems. >Finally, how does InDesign figure into this equation? Good question, but as I said in my last posting, it's kind of hard to see how both OPI 1.3 and 2.0 can be recorded without the nested Form and Image XObject structure. So if InDesign generates PDF files with both OPI versions in them it will probably do the same as Distiller. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:08-GMT,2377;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29632 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09955; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:58:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:57:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09842; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:57:49 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908241054.DAA43659@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:55:00 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? Cc: "Rich Sprague" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich, well, it may not necessarily be Microsoft shareholders, unless they own Monotype. The Helvetica / Times lookalikes are from Monotype (an, as far as I know well reputated type foundry). Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >>>Unfortunately, they made a decision to replace Times with Times New Roman, >>>and Helvetica with Arial. I suppose they did this to keep Microsoft happy, >>>but I don't know. > >Actually, they did it to keep their shareholder's happy...Microsoft's >shareholders are already happy. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:09-GMT,2626;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29638 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09882; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:58:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:56:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09703; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:56:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:57:00 +0100 Message-ID: <002b01beee27$c6499980$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908241146.EAA48371@mail.inficad.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > On the other hand, when would I need to check the Preserve > OPI Comments box? When you are using OPI. No other time. > > So, if I can make my PDF without this box checked, and I > don't need it, why > is it a default setting. Wouldn't it save everyone a whole bunch of > heartache and pain to deselect it as a default? Well... it makes perfectly good PDF files (as I noted before), so the argument would be - why switch it off and mess up the people working with PDF. > > Finally, how does InDesign figure into this equation? An interesting question. I haven't tried it yet. If InDesign can convert placed EPS direct into PDF, that implies it has its own PostScript parser. That parser might, or might not, look for OPI comments. It might generate PDF files with OPI tags, or not. Hmmm. Needs some experimentation I think. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:12-GMT,2706;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29648 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09612; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:55:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:54:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09514; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:54:04 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:54:08 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01beee27$60262380$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990824122159.011da830@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > For the hard-pressed production staff on this list, I > sympathise - BT, DT. > I suspect that there may be a quick and dirty way of disabling OPI 2.0 > handling in Distiller 4.0 by defining comment parsing > routines to replace > those used for %%BeginOPI: etc. Unfortunately I don't have > the spare time > to investigate right now, and I don't, off the top of my head, recall > seeing any documentation for coding comment parsing in > Distiller. Perhaps > Aandi, or Olaf or ...(insert your name here!) could find the > time and the docs for that? No documented interface to comment parsing in Distiller or any other Adobe RIP, so far as I know. Not even any documentation on what comments Distiller does parse (who'd want to know a thing like that!) I hear there are other RIPs on the market which do provide this sort of interface - you might be familiar with them, Martin... Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:15-GMT,3062;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29656 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA08962; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:47:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:46:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08816; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:46:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241146.EAA48371@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:45:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: martinb@harlequin.com, Dov Isaacs Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > At 03:46 24/08/99 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: >>My next question/s, is why does it come up in Distiller 4 and not 3.02? And >>most importantly, since one can't pre-flight PDFs with this problem, nor can >>images be selected and edited, when is this problem between OPI and >>Distiller 4 going to be solved? > > Two sides to the same question. > > There's a change of emphasis between OPI 1.3 and OPI 2.0 - in OPI 1.3 the > reading application does all the work, but in OPI 2.0 the creator does it. > It's kind of difficult to see a clean way to code both versions into PDF > for a single image without nesting Form and Image XObjects. Martin, thanks for taking time to reply. Let me try to make this simple. I'm a designer, production manager, whatever. I want to make a PDF file designed for Press. Why do I need the Preserve OPI Comments box checked to begin with? I use Pagemaker 6.52 or Quark 3.x or 4.x. What good will this do me? I know it does me harm. What harm am I going to face if I don't Preserve the OPI Comments? On the other hand, when would I need to check the Preserve OPI Comments box? So, if I can make my PDF without this box checked, and I don't need it, why is it a default setting. Wouldn't it save everyone a whole bunch of heartache and pain to deselect it as a default? Finally, how does InDesign figure into this equation? Thanks. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:22-GMT,1928;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29676 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA08437; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:41:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:39:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08220; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:39:24 -0500 Message-ID: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B5596@sungard-finance.fr> From: URIA Emmanuel To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing PDF with Acrobat Reader Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:40:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA08216 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ That's it Aandi ;-) I didn't forget the line : /ProcSet [ /Text /PDF ] in my file, but I printed it without the capital letters. The " procset " keyword don't work like this ;-( Thanks again Aandi ! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:24-GMT,2798;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29679 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07182; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:25:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:24:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07072; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:24:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990824102340.011c67c0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> References: <4.2.0.58.19990823181241.00b90dd0@mail-303> <4.2.0.58.19990823181241.00b90dd0@mail-303> <3.0.5.32.19990824102340.011c67c0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:25:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA07068 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:23 AM +0100 8/24/99, Martin Bailey wrote: >Given that ID will show an on-screen preview if you place an EPS file that >doesn't have a preview in it, I think it's a pretty fair bet that there is >at least a partial interpreter built in. It obviously doesn't have to deal >with the complexities of the page device because it's only dealing with EPS >files, but even so ... > Then I stand corrected! LDR ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:27-GMT,2853;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29690 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07183; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:25:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:24:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07034; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:24:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37C21CF1.6720@acm.org> References: <37C21CF1.6720@acm.org> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:24:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] ...Security Settings & Copying Text... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA07029 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 11:17 PM -0500 8/23/99, Stephen D. Poe wrote: >1. "Can't change" >There is no such thing as "perfect security" or "100%". You continue to >request higher and higher levels of security, but at some point the >security becomes too expensive both in terms of cost and difficulty of >use by the users. > >The proper question to ask your bosses is how much security do they >really need? Very true. And if they want more than Acrobat offers internally, then you might want to check out PageVault from Authentica Security s which offers MUCH more control over document security! Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:26-GMT,4836;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29685 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07418; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:28:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:27:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07323; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:27:22 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824122159.011da830@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:21:59 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. Cc: Dov Isaacs , Bob Greene , Tom Mornini In-Reply-To: <199908241046.DAA42898@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 03:46 24/08/99 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: >My next question/s, is why does it come up in Distiller 4 and not 3.02? And >most importantly, since one can't pre-flight PDFs with this problem, nor can >images be selected and edited, when is this problem between OPI and >Distiller 4 going to be solved? Two sides to the same question. There's a change of emphasis between OPI 1.3 and OPI 2.0 - in OPI 1.3 the reading application does all the work, but in OPI 2.0 the creator does it. It's kind of difficult to see a clean way to code both versions into PDF for a single image without nesting Form and Image XObjects. Distiller 3.02 and earlier didn't support OPI 2, so the problem never arose, although it would have been perfectly possible for other PDF-generation tools to create the same kind of structure. There is nothing wrong with the PDF files according to the PDF specification. I think the answer has to be that the tools that can't handle these perfectly valid files are the ones with the bugs in that need fixing. That might be Acrobat Exchange, or PitStop, or Adobe's PDF library, but it would seem that Distiller is probably doing the right thing technically. Sure, Adobe could help avoid the problem by offering options Distiller to only preserve either OPI 1.3 or OPI 2.0 comments, but that's only plastering over the cracks rather than actually fixing them. Yes, that's a nerd's answer in that it doesn't give a quick and easy way to get your files running flawlessly and reliably today - other than by telling Distiller not to record OPI comments, or by using an application that doesn't include OPI 2 comments (such as QuarkXPress). I believe that it is, however, an answer that would produce the best result on the long run if it were acted on, allowing PDF usage to grow to support other new features etc. instead of deliberately stunting it to allow today's imperfect applications to work with it. For the hard-pressed production staff on this list, I sympathise - BT, DT. I suspect that there may be a quick and dirty way of disabling OPI 2.0 handling in Distiller 4.0 by defining comment parsing routines to replace those used for %%BeginOPI: etc. Unfortunately I don't have the spare time to investigate right now, and I don't, off the top of my head, recall seeing any documentation for coding comment parsing in Distiller. Perhaps Aandi, or Olaf or ...(insert your name here!) could find the time and the docs for that? Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:28-GMT,2105;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29695 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05457; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:02:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:01:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05299; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:01:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241101.EAA44246@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:01:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] form xobjects...an admission From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Aandi Inston , Dov Isaacs Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> > Can anybody point me to some solid information about these >> > Form X Objects? > > These are troublesome things. I can vouch for that, because > Quite A Box Of Tricks has to cope with them in all sorts of > contexts. The manual (http://www.quite.com/box/manuals.htm) > also has some discussion. > 9. If you think form XObjects are horrible, wait until PATTERNS > start to get used. Take me now, Lord. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:29-GMT,2339;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29702 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04884; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:57:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:55:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04764; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:55:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:55:25 +0100 Message-ID: <002801beee1f$2bd48f20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908241046.DAA42898@mail.inficad.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > My next question/s, is why does it come up in Distiller 4 and > not 3.02? And > most importantly, since one can't pre-flight PDFs with this > problem, nor can > images be selected and edited, when is this problem between OPI and > Distiller 4 going to be solved? Since form XObjects are legal, correct PDF, the problem must surely be with the pre-flighting or the image editing; there is nothing wrong and nothing to fix in Distiller. There ARE bugs in Acrobat 4.0 related to editing elements in form XObjects, and I hope to see them fixed. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:31-GMT,2656;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29708 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04607; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:53:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:52:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04479; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:52:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing PDF with Acrobat Reader Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:52:35 +0100 Message-ID: <002701beee1e$d0c8c240$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B5595@sungard-finance.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'm generating my own PDF files with a personal C > application, but I have > some problems to print the result. > When I open the file with acrobat reader 4.0, the soft > displays my document > as I wish, but when I want to print it (I'm using a HP 4000 > TN printer) > there are some troubles. With the PCL option, the print is > OK, but with the > level 2 postscript option, nothing append. My first guess would be that you are getting the PostScript error "undefined". If so, the usual cause is forgetting to fill in the ProcSet resources in each page. /ProcSet [ /Text /PDF ] or whatever is required. Bad or missing ProcSets are only noticed when printing, and only to PostScript. You would not be the first to forget this. Even Adobe can occasionally suffer from it (I believe, when adding form fields to a page with no text on it). Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:33-GMT,3141;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29713 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA03501; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:41:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:40:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA03337; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:40:25 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567D7.003E5705.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:39:24 +0100 Subject: Antwort: RE: [PDF] ...Security Settings & Copying Text... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Michael, 1) Why not use passwords? 2) Stephen is right. You can easily print a PDF to PS an reconvert it without security mechanisms, you'll just have to enter bookmarks ans PdfLinks manually. 3) Moreover, you can edit _any_ file in hex-editor, you just have to care about the pdf checksum. 4) But, if you can't guarantee the security of the file, you can do it by the media. e.g. CD-ROM. Regards, Laura Dietz P.S: In Acrobat 3 with Touch Up you could change the text, too. =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== > We've been using PDF format for some documents that can't be changed. > Management needs to be 100% convinced that these documents _can't_ be > changed by anyone. Using Acrobat 3.x the worst you could do was to remove > a page. Now with Acrobat 4.x you can change the text in the pdf's. > ...text deleted... The documents can't be changed by anyone? How about if I just create a new PDF file that looks like the old one but with the changes I want? What is the original format that the PDF file is replacing? How secure is the original from changes? I suggest you start with these questions and go from there. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:34-GMT,3657;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29718 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04888; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:57:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:54:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04672; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:54:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241054.DAA43659@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:54:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>Unfortunately, they made a decision to replace Times with Times New Roman, >>and Helvetica with Arial. I suppose they did this to keep Microsoft happy, >>but I don't know. Actually, they did it to keep their shareholder's happy...Microsoft's shareholders are already happy. >>When Acrobat looks for fonts, it first looks within itself for >>embedded/subsets. If it can't find any, it goes to the system fonts. Still >>out of luck, it will look to its own font resources which it installs with >>the application. I think I made an error, here. The second step in looking for fonts is for Acrobat to go to it's own fonts in the Resource > Fonts folder. Then it looks to the system folder. This is why if the doc calls for Helvetica you're going to get Arial, even if you have Helvetica installed in your system. FWIW, if Helvetica is in your Adobe PS printer's memory, in Acrobat 4 the doc will view with Arial and print with Helvetica. Confused? Don't be. Adobe's profits in 1999 are reportedly up 78%. http://www.businesswire.com/webbox/bw.081899/192300337.htm > I've done some checking and I think I have narrowed down the source of the > screen artifacts that I've been noticing (see my previous note entitled > 'Lines and other Artifacts using Acrobat 4.0 in Windows 95/98'). > > The artifacts appear when scrolling a page, and they only seem to cluster > around (you guessed it) a line of type in Helvetica, with the new ArialMT > font being substituted. > > As an aside, the substitution of Arial for Helvetica has interesting > consequences for many of Adobe's own documents, especially the IACREF > document. The colored boxes set behind the heading type no longer make any > sense. > > I wonder if there might be a way to add fonts to the base 14? I own (but do > not use) ATM, and therefore have a perfectly legal copy of Times and > Helvetica, which I could easily copy into the fonts folder of Acrobat, but > something tells me this won't work. > > Anybody have any ideas? r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:36-GMT,3732;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29724 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04265; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:51:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:50:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04147; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:49:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] form xobjects...an admission Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:50:04 +0100 Message-ID: <002601beee1e$6cf86400$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908241015.DAA40230@mail.inficad.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > Can anybody point me to some solid information about these > Form X Objects? These are troublesome things. I can vouch for that, because Quite A Box Of Tricks has to cope with them in all sorts of contexts. The manual (http://www.quite.com/box/manuals.htm) also has some discussion. In brief (well, not very, but briefer than the manual): 1. They mainly seem to appear from OPI comments, but can also appear from optimization. 2. The original idea was that repeated design elements could be used over and over, rather than having to be duplicated. 3. But the OPI processing creates form XObjects without any need for duplication. Don't really know why. 4. Quite A Box Of Tricks (QBox) can report on form XObjects in the info mode, but not tell you anything about the contents. Except for text (font info) because Acrobat automatically looks inside them. 5. QBox can't shrink images in form XObjects because, in general, they may be used more than once at different sizes. In practice, they are often only used once and a future release might cope with that case. 6. QBox descents into form XObjects in other cases, like conversion to CMYK. 7. QBox actually MAKES form XObjects when you convert for fields (no relation) and annotations to become part of the page. 8. A bug in Acrobat 4.0 means that if you try to edit text in a form XObject created by QBox, then Acrobat will fail horribly. 9. If you think form XObjects are horrible, wait until PATTERNS start to get used. These can be used to fill an area with a tiling pattern, and although they have been part of PDF for ages, Acrobat 3 displays them as a grey area. Acrobat 4 not only displays them right, but will generate them. The case I know about is where using Web Capture. Background graphics on a web page will tile, and patterns are used to do that. Referring back to 4-6, QBox will not see or report on patterns; it won't shrink images in them; but it will convert them to CMYK. Aamdo _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:38-GMT,4750;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29730 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04004; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:47:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:46:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA03891; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:46:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241046.DAA42898@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:46:24 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Dov Isaacs , Bob Greene , Tom Mornini Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > At 10:54 AM -0700 8/23/99, Rich Sprague wrote: >>The common thread in all this is that color or grayscale TIFFs failed in the >>resulting PDF file. Using PitStop, I would get a message "no error" and at >>that point my system would simply barf and shut down. > > Do you know in all cases if color conversion was set to "unchanged" in the > Distiller Advanced Job Options? I can understand if you don't feel like > responding if you feel that you have already spent too much time on this. Thanks, Bob. I was simply using the default Press settings in Acrobat 4. >>Then I would open the PDF again, and use QBox to check the image. It shows >>Form XObject. I know only that this is a highly technical term, but in doing >>a search on Adobe's basic web site, nothing shows up. Or, if it's there, its >>buried so deep that I don't have time to sift through hundreds of docs to >>find it. > > The short version is that a Forms XObject is the PDF equivalent of an > embedded EPS (text, graphics, and/or images), but naturally in PDF > encoding, color spaces, compression, etc. Well, finally, a simple, concise explanation. My next question/s, is why does it come up in Distiller 4 and not 3.02? And most importantly, since one can't pre-flight PDFs with this problem, nor can images be selected and edited, when is this problem between OPI and Distiller 4 going to be solved? The average Joe Schmoe isn't going to have the time, patience or knowledge to deal with this. There's no point in having PitStop if you can't pre-flight the file, and IMHO it's a big risk to send off a PDF when it hasn't been pre-flighted or one can't verify it has been prepared/is working correctly. I think this problem needs to be fixed, and it should be a *high* priority. OTHERWISE, AND UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THIS FORM XOBJECT BUSINESS IS RESOLVED, I'M GOING TO DISTILL WITH 3.02 (ON MY MAC), AND ADVISE MY CLIENTS THAT SHOULD THEY DO THE SAME. FWIW, Distiller 3.02 seems to make PDFs in about half the time, and they open a lot more quickly, too. OF COURSE, IF PEOPLE USE DISTILLER 3.02 THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO EMBED AND SUBSET THE HELVETICA AND TIMES ROMAN FONTS. BUT I GUESS ADOBE IN ITS INFINITE WISDOM (AND DESIRE TO NEARLY DOUBLE ITS EARNINGS FOR IT'S SHAREHOLDERS IN 1999) FELT THAT WE WOULDN'T CARE. http://www.businesswire.com/webbox/bw.081899/192300337.htm One of the problems that I have with this posture, is that's it's clear to me that the reason you couldn't embed/subset the Base 14 fonts with Distiller 3.x was strictly a licensing (money) issue. But I own Helvetica and Times Roman, and am not counting on the *free* fonts in the Acrobat resource folder to create my original document. So why did Adobe tell *me* I couldn't embed the fonts? Now, with the same fonts as I always have had, I can, but I have to dance on the coals regarding the Form XObjects bug. It's a wonder why I'm still in this business, and not selling used cars somewhere. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:39-GMT,2427;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29735 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA02682; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:30:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:29:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA02596; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:29:26 -0500 Message-ID: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B5595@sungard-finance.fr> From: URIA Emmanuel To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing PDF with Acrobat Reader Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:30:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA02592 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm new in this group, and I'm french, So excuse me for my bad english ;-) I'm generating my own PDF files with a personal C application, but I have some problems to print the result. When I open the file with acrobat reader 4.0, the soft displays my document as I wish, but when I want to print it (I'm using a HP 4000 TN printer) there are some troubles. With the PCL option, the print is OK, but with the level 2 postscript option, nothing append. Does anybody have an explanation ? Thanks If you wish, I will send you a testing file. -- Emmanuel URIA Sungard Finance SAS 173, Bureaux de la colline Bâtiment E 92213 Saint Cloud Cedex - France Phone : +33 (1) 49 11 31 46 Fax : +33 (1) 49 11 30 65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:40-GMT,3294;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29739 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01724; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:17:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:15:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01654; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:15:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241015.DAA40230@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:15:47 -0700 Subject: [PDF] form xobjects...an admission From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: jsauber@saatchiny.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>>> "Rich Sprague" wrote: > > ...Then I would open the PDF again, and use QBox to check the image. It shows > Form XObject. I know only that this is a highly technical term, but in doing > a search on Adobe's basic web site, nothing shows up. Or, if it's there, its > buried so deep that I don't have time to sift through hundreds of docs to > find it... > > Can anybody point me to some solid information about these Form X Objects? > What are the criteria for an image being converted into one and how can I > get them to act reliably? I ask this because I have just created a PDF > containing one vital graphic image (Distiller 3.02). This graphic appears > on some machines and only shows blank white on others. It appears to be > totally arbitrary, independent of platform (we're all running Acrobat 3 > here). My account exec is panicing! > Panic aside, it'd be nice to get some solid info on these elusive little > buggers. > > Jeff Sauber > S&S Adv. I've never seen this problem with Distiller 3.02...it only happens in 4.x. FWIW, I can bypass the problem by turning off the Preserve OPI Comments checkbox in the Job Options > Advanced tab, which is how I had helped others get beyond the issue. I thought I had tried this the other day, but it just goes to show I'm human too. In my own state of panic, I had created settings with the words Press (no DSC) and had changed them (doing tests) without saving as a new name. ---Once you make customized settings to your liking, it's best to protect them from unwanted changes/mistakes. On the Mac, lock the darn thing. On the PC, change to read only. Then you won't do what I did.--- r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:41-GMT,3585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29746 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA00289; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:53:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:52:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA00180; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:52:34 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:52:39 +0100 Message-ID: <002001beee16$674ddd80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990824102340.011c67c0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Given that ID will show an on-screen preview if you place an > EPS file that > doesn't have a preview in it, I think it's a pretty fair bet > that there is > at least a partial interpreter built in. It obviously doesn't > have to deal > with the complexities of the page device because it's only > dealing with EPS > files, but even so ... At least two Adobe products have PostScript parsers (apart from the obvious ones). Photoshop and Illustrator can both import EPS based on interpretation. Imagine my surprise when I found this is only a level 1 interpreter, though. (I don't know about InDesign). I'm sure there are good technical reasons for this, but to an outsider it seems downright bizarre that Adobe should be releasing products tied to PostScript level 1 in the late 1990's, when they themselves released level 2 in 1990. Couple that with the decision to remove level 1 OUTPUT from the Windows printer drivers, and you have enough to excite a conspiracy theorist. (Personally, I don't trust these people who espouse conspiracy theories. I think they're all in it together). But the most annoying aspect to me about these import filters is that some smart person decided that (a) PostScript error messages are obscure and can be hard to understand [this is true] (b) the solution for this is to not issue them, and instead issue a generic "parser error" message [this is dumb] I suspect there are people at Adobe willing to document the features and deficiencies of these filters, but marketing are saying "that's too technical"/"we don't stress the negative". So you are left with an EPS filter that works sometimes, and which even the most experienced PostScript expert can make almost no headway with. Anyway, that's enough conspiracy for today. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:44-GMT,3205;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29757 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA31373; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:30:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:28:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA31192; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:27:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824102340.011c67c0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:23:40 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.19990823181241.00b90dd0@mail-303> <4.2.0.58.19990823181241.00b90dd0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 22:31 23/08/99 -0400, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: >>**** InDesign actually creates PDF natively from its own internal objects as >>**** well as from embedded and/or linked .EPS graphics. InDesign effectively >>**** has a full Adobe PostScript 3 interpreter builtin to fully interpret all >>**** arbitrary PostScript that can (and does) occur in .EPS graphics. > > I don't know where you get your info, but I am pretty sure >that this is not the case. There is no PS interpreter built into ID >- it uses the Acrobat/PDF SDK to do all the work, and I don't recall >a PS interpreter in there either. Given that ID will show an on-screen preview if you place an EPS file that doesn't have a preview in it, I think it's a pretty fair bet that there is at least a partial interpreter built in. It obviously doesn't have to deal with the complexities of the page device because it's only dealing with EPS files, but even so ... Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:06:44-GMT,3019;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29751 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:06:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA31374; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:30:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:28:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA31255; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:28:43 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824094750.01108550@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:47:50 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] ouch. i've been bit, too. Cc: Dov Isaacs , Kurt Foss , Karl De Abrew In-Reply-To: <199908231754.KAA40148@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:54 23/08/99 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: >Now that I've gotten that off my chest, I will return to finish my project >with Distiller 3.02, and get down on my knees and pray that Adobe can >provide us with a fix, sooner than later. If you haven't been pushed too close to your deadline to fit this in, you might try turning off the OPI capture in Acrobat 4 and see if that solves your problem as well. I've heard of several problems caused by the complexity of the nested Form and Image XObjects (sorry, I'm a nerd at heart!) that Distiller 4 generates when the incoming PostScript contains both OPI 1.3 and 2.0 comments. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:33:11-GMT,2769;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00454 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18622; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:29:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:27:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18455; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:27:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824093149.0091ac10@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:31:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990823181241.00b90dd0@mail-303> References: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895352AE@perm02.woodside.com .au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >**** InDesign's PDF integration is totally different from any existing program. >**** InDesign actually creates PDF natively from its own internal objects as >**** well as from embedded and/or linked .EPS graphics. InDesign effectively >**** has a full Adobe PostScript 3 interpreter builtin to fully interpret all >**** arbitrary PostScript that can (and does) occur in .EPS graphics. > Aha! I'd been looking for an answer on that one, Dov. Thanks. Just to be certain I'm clear on this ... InDesign will, when it runs into an EPS while making PDF, interpret the EPS into PDF (directly or not) rather than using the preview image? And will things like PDFMark_in_EPS will survive and work properly in the resulting PDF as well? IOW, does the interpreter understand PS that normally only Distiller would know what to do with? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:48:40-GMT,2099;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00829 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:48:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19494; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:37:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:36:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19362; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:36:36 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824094122.0090d290@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:41:22 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.19990823181241.00b90dd0@mail-303> <4.2.0.58.19990823181241.00b90dd0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I don't know where you get your info, Look at the portion of Dov's email address following the @ There's a hint to be found there. ;-) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 13:57:09-GMT,3162;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01049 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:57:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21270; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:53:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:52:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21074; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:52:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824095706.0091b710@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:57:06 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Document loses paper-colored box when printing In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Wild guess: they're using PCL or other Non-PS printers, you're using PS. Have them try changing their printer driver settings to Text as graphics and spooler to Raw rather than EMF, graphics rather than HPGL if that's an available option. That should correct the problem if Wild Guess = Something Like Reality. If they're using Reader 4, they might be able to pick the as Image option in Reader's print dialog to accomplish much the same thing w/o having to dink with driver settings. >Hi Folks, >We created 2 different documents in PageMaker (on the PC). In both, a >paper-colored box was placed over some text on the master page and new text >was placed over the paper-colored box. We printed the documents to PS, then >distilled them in Distiller 3.0, checked them then sent them off to 2 >different customers. In both cases, when printed by the customer, both the >master page text and the text added on the page print - in other words, the >PDF is losing the paper-colored box. I printed the P65 file and the PDF from >our location with no problem. We're using Acrobat Exchange/Reader/Distiller >3.0. Maybe our customers are using 4.0 (I don't know). This wasn't a big >problem in these situations but could be in the future. We've done this many >times before with no problems. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 14:09:56-GMT,2287;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01526 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:09:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22553; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:04:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:03:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22440; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:03:47 -0500 Message-ID: <37C2A820.9F9D010A@pre-print.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:14:26 -0600 From: Gunnar Blodgett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from Framemaker and InDesign References: <002001beee16$674ddd80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PS Architects, time to wake up and smell the ozone. > I'm sure there are good technical reasons for this, but to > an outsider it seems downright bizarre that Adobe should be > releasing products tied to PostScript level 1 in the late 1990's, > when they themselves released level 2 in 1990. > Thank you Aandi. Your observations on Adobe's technical and marketing decisions are a breath of fresh air, and coming from someone with your standing in the community, much appreciaed. Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett Production Analyst Pre Print, Inc. (780) 488-6688 x 338 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 14:26:47-GMT,2479;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01939 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:26:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24217; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:21:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:20:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24022; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:20:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002e01beee2b$9ed339c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:20:26 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: RE: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >What is the real problem here? > >There seems to be outrage that the holy Helvetica has been replaced >by the ungodly Arial, but what is wrong with that? > >That is, why shouldn't Acrobat Reader use Arial for screen display >of a PDF file which requests Helvetica, so long as the metrics are >exactly preserved? Aandi, The problem is the metrics are not preserved in all cases. Especially if you have PDF 1.1 and 1.2 documents which contain True Type versions of Arial and Times New Roman. I have seen a few examples where the documents become illegible because the characters within a line of text start stepping on each other. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 14:32:33-GMT,2119;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02068 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24875; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:27:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:26:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24721; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:26:45 -0500 Message-ID: <37C2AD83.BD2723C8@pre-print.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:37:26 -0600 From: Gunnar Blodgett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? References: <199908241226.FAA53163@mail.inficad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi r|i|c|h > My point is that Microsoft's shareholders are already happy due to the > company's phenomenal success. And, Arial and Times New Roman are installed > on every new Win machine, aren't they? Don't these come from Microsoft? > If they're True Type, I thout Apple made them. Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett Production Analyst Pre Print, Inc. (780) 488-6688 x 338 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 14:42:15-GMT,4163;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02288 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:42:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25889; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:36:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:34:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25668; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:34:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824153311.00986980@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:33:11 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. In-Reply-To: <199908241224.FAA52931@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 05:24 24/08/99 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: >My name is Average User. In 25 words or less, what do I need to know about >OPI 1.3 and 2.0? Which programs use which, and what do they do for me? I'm >pretending I know nothing about this subject, which is not quite the truth, >but almost, as I have no experience with OPI. Not sure I can do it in 25 words ... First, OPI: OPI is a process that allows design staff to use low resolution 'proxy' images when making up pages. These are smaller, faster to transmit and to place, and use less memory in the layout program. If you use proxy images then the workflow between the design station and output onto film or plate must include an OPI server which recognises the low resolution data and replaces it with high resolution images suitable for final reproduction. Now the versions: The most common version of OPI in use today is 1.3. Many applications such as QuarkXPress, Macromedia FreeHand, Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Pagemaker etc. include OPI 1.3 comments when you use them to generate PostScript. Acrobate Distiller version 3.0 and later can be configured to create OPI 1.3 objects in PDF files when distilling these PostScript files. In 1995 a draft specification for OPI 2.0 was released by Adobe. A final specification has not (yet) been released, but a number of applications such as Adobe PageMaker include OPI 2.0 comments in the PostScript they generate in addition to OPI 1.3 comments. In addition, a number of OPI servers that can make EPS proxy images (as opposed to the more normal TIFF proxies), do so by including OPI 2.0 comments within the EPS proxies. Acrobat Distiller version 4.0 can be configured to create OPI 2.0 objects in PDF files based on these comments. OPI 2.0 holds out the promise of more flexible file handling, especially in colorising grayscale images, but as the OPI 2.0 specification currently stands, it offers few if any advantages to an end user over OPI 1.3. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 14:43:55-GMT,3790;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02330 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:43:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26317; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:39:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:38:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26181; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:38:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241438.HAA73482@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:38:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: gunnar.blodgett@pre-print.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> My point is that Microsoft's shareholders are already happy due to the >> company's phenomenal success. And, Arial and Times New Roman are installed >> on every new Win machine, aren't they? Don't these come from Microsoft? >> > If they're True Type, I thout Apple made them. Oh, Gunnar: If it was only that simple. See capsulization of the history below: --------- It rapidly became obvious to the major system software creators (Apple, Microsoft, and later IBM) that it was important to have scaleable font technology supported at the level of the operating system itself. But neither Apple nor Microsoft wanted to have a key piece of their system software technology controlled by an outside company. So Apple developed their own scaleable font technology, first code-named Royal, and later introduced as TrueType. Apple traded the technology with Microsoft in exchange for the latter's TrueImage PostScript clone technology (which was buggy at the time, and never got used by Apple, although it has surfaced in various later incarnations). The TrueType specifications would be made public, and TrueType would be built into the next versions of the Mac and Windows operating systems. Adobe's pre-emptive response started with the release of the long-protected specifications for the PostScript Type 1 font format in March 1990. This was followed by introduction of Adobe Type Manager (ATM) software in mid-1990. ATM scales Type 1 (but not Type 3) PostScript fonts for screen display and imaging on both PostScript and non-PostScript printers. In early 1991, TrueType for the Mac became available, followed by the Windows 3.1 implementation. Now, with either TrueType or ATM, Mac users (and later Windows and OS/2 users) could actually see on-screen at any size what the font output would look like. So now there are two widely used outline font specifications, one (TrueType) built into the operating systems used by over 95% of computers world-wide, and the other (PostScript Type 1) both well-established and supported directly by most high-end output devices. ---------- r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 14:59:35-GMT,3175;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02685 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27831; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:52:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:51:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27622; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:51:12 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:51:16 +0100 Message-ID: <003301beee40$1ecfb900$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990824153311.00986980@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >My name is Average User. In 25 words or less, what do I need > to know about > >OPI 1.3 and 2.0? Which programs use which, and what do they > do for me? To add to Martin's excellent explanation: OPI is based entirely on the idea of adding special comments to PostScript files, which get picked up later to cause things to happen (typically, high res images replace low res). The OPI standards define two different rules for these comments. If you want to know which standard a particular OPI product follows, ask the vendor. And there is a third possibility. At least one vendor (Hyphen) created an OPI based on the concept but using its own private comments instead of the standard. In a closed PostScript workflow, the specific comments are not very important. The OPI software giveth and the OPI software taketh away. However, it is very important when going through PDF, because PostScript comments vanish when you convert to PostScript. PDF therefore has equivalents for both OPI standards, which Distiller carefully recognises and converts. Equally important, PostScript output from Acrobat puts the comments BACK pretty much as they were. If you have an OPI product in the third category (private comments), you are doomed: there is no way to integrate this to a PDF workflow, except to put back all the high res graphics before distilling. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 15:12:06-GMT,1991;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02992 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:12:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29575; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:09:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:07:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29343; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:07:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:07:38 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? In-Reply-To: <37C2AD83.BD2723C8@pre-print.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > My point is that Microsoft's shareholders are already happy due to the > company's phenomenal success. And, Arial and Times New Roman are installed > on every new Win machine, aren't they? Don't these come from Microsoft? The Arial MT and Times New Roman PS MT fonts that Acrobat uses were installed with Acrobat and are Type 1 fonts. What am I missing this time? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 15:14:42-GMT,2180;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03087 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:14:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29805; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:10:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:09:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29620; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:09:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824160648.0174cba0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:06:48 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. In-Reply-To: <003301beee40$1ecfb900$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990824153311.00986980@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 15:51 24/08/99 +0100, Aandi Inston wrote: >PDF therefore has equivalents for both OPI standards, which >Distiller carefully recognises and converts. Equally important, >PostScript output from Acrobat puts the comments BACK pretty >much as they were. Except that there's a bug in how Acrobat 4 writes OPI 2 comments - the order is wrong, which may confuse some OPI servers. One step forward ... _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 15:23:42-GMT,2161;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03345 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:23:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30746; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:19:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:18:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30593; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:18:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241518.IAA81295@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:18:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> My point is that Microsoft's shareholders are already happy due to the >> company's phenomenal success. And, Arial and Times New Roman are installed >> on every new Win machine, aren't they? Don't these come from Microsoft? > > The Arial MT and Times New Roman PS MT fonts that Acrobat uses were > installed with Acrobat and are Type 1 fonts. What am I missing this time? George: Doesn't every Windows system have Arial and Times New Roman installed as part of the O/S? These are TT fonts. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 15:39:32-GMT,3422;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03912 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:39:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32651; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:35:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:34:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32508; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:34:35 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1D4C@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Arial vs. Helvetica Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:31:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >why shouldn't Acrobat Reader use Arial for screen display >of a PDF file which requests Helvetica, so long as the metrics are >exactly preserved? ALL PostScript printers offer something called >Helvetica, and that will be used on printing. Aandi: While this is off the topic of my question, I feel I must at least attempt to answer your questions... The problem is exactly that: metrics are not being preserved. Arial is not Helvetica. For an example of this, using a machine that does not have Helvetica installed (any normal Windows computer that is not running ATM will do), open a copy of the IACREF.pdf document from Adobe. If you still have the Acrobat 3 CD handy, you can find it there. The design looks completely off. The result is that if you utilize an extremely common font (Helvetica) your design will most likely not appear as intended on the majority of machines out there in the real world. That makes for a bad first impression. Many people were taking advantage of the fact that using the base 14 fonts resulted in smaller PDF files. That means many carefully planned designs are going to be completely messed up. That's a bad thing. In addition, most common users do not have access to a PS printer. They have a PCL printer. And that means that the error will carry over to the printed version. This is a bad situation. One of Acrobat's strongest points has been that it preserves the original look of your publication. This does not appear to be the case any longer (at least for legacy documents... and there are A LOT of <4.0 documents out there). ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 16:04:20-GMT,3848;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04792 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:04:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02111; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:55:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:54:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01953; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:54:07 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1D4D@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Lines and other Artifacts using Acrobat 4.0 in Windows 95/98 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:51:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I think I made a mistake by quoting r|i|c|h in my last posting (no offense, it's just that I'm more interested in finding an answer to this problem), so I'm reverting to my previous subject, and combining my two posts into a new post. Original question: ------------------ Has anyone else noticed the occasional weird lines and other screen artifacts appearing while using Acrobat 4 on a Windows computer? It's beginning to annoy me... I have Win95 here, and Win98 at home, and the problem seems to crop up on both machines. I've updated the video drivers on both machines to the latest and greatest (one's running an ATI Rage Pro card, the other is running a Diamond Viper 770 card). After further study, another question: -------------------------------------- I've done some checking and I think I have narrowed down the source of the screen artifacts that I've been noticing (see my previous note entitled 'Lines and other Artifacts using Acrobat 4.0 in Windows 95/98'). The artifacts appear when scrolling a page, and they only seem to cluster around (you guessed it) a line of type in Helvetica, with the new ArialMT font being substituted. I wonder if there might be a way to add fonts to the base 14? I own (but do not use) ATM, and therefore have a perfectly legal copy of Times and Helvetica, which I could easily copy into the fonts folder of Acrobat, but something tells me this won't work. Anybody have any ideas? I can work around the fact that the base 14 fonts have changed, and that I will have to carefully evaluate my existing PDFs for possible design problems resulting from the new environment. I really have no choice about that, it's just the way it is. No use griping about it. However, this artifact thing is driving me nuts. While I haven't been experiencing any crashes, artifacts are almost always a symptom of an imminent crash. The result is that every time I use Acrobat, my nerves are on edge. I hate that. Please help! TIA ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 16:14:27-GMT,3474;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05186 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:14:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03616; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:10:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:09:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03446; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:09:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Arial vs. Helvetica Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:09:24 +0100 Message-ID: <003601beee4b$092db1a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1D4C@NT6> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >why shouldn't Acrobat Reader use Arial for screen display > >of a PDF file which requests Helvetica, so long as the metrics are > >exactly preserved? ALL PostScript printers offer something called > >Helvetica, and that will be used on printing. > > Aandi: > > While this is off the topic of my question, I feel I must at > least attempt > to answer your questions... > > The problem is exactly that: metrics are not being preserved. > Arial is not Helvetica. Then that is surely a bug. In a PDF file each character has an implicit metric, not derived from the actual display font. Acrobat should not be at liberty to use font metrics, and although I've seen reports of it doing so, I've never witnessed it. > > For an example of this, using a machine that does not have Helvetica > installed (any normal Windows computer that is not running > ATM will do), > open a copy of the IACREF.pdf document from Adobe. If you > still have the > Acrobat 3 CD handy, you can find it there. The design looks > completely off. I've compared VWIACREF.PDF side by side: on the one hand Windows 95, ATM, Acrobat 3.0, Helvetica. On the other, Windows 98, no ATM, Acrobat 4.0, ArialMT. I have not seen any obvious differences at all, let alone gross errors. So, perhaps there is an incorrect assumption here: perhaps there is a font display problem in some situations, and the (to me) unimportant matter of Arial vs. Helvetica is getting the blame. Where should I look in this document for a problem? (I assume you mean VWIACREF.PDF, 289 pages, modified 02/12/1996). What operating systems and other configuration do you have? Or perhaps it needs a senstive typographers eye to see the problem. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 16:25:24-GMT,2446;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05685 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:25:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04859; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:21:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:20:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04619; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:20:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:23:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199908241623.JAA18997@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <003601beee4b$092db1a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> (listreader2@quite.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Arial vs. Helvetica References: <003601beee4b$092db1a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> Arial is not Helvetica. > > Then that is surely a bug. In a PDF file each character has an > implicit metric, not derived from the actual display font. You mean explicit, not implicit, don't you? But this is not the case for the base 14 fonts, which is the whole point here! May I repeat my strong request that the actual glyph sets and actual metrics of the 14 base fonts become part of the **published PDF specification**. Anything short of that will leave users holding the short end of the stick when and if Adobe chooses to change font suppliers in their Acrobat products. Adobe, are you listening? -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 16:25:42-GMT,2625;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05717 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:25:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04862; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:21:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:20:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04660; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:20:41 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Lines and other Artifacts using Acrobat 4.0 in Windows 95/98 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:20:44 +0100 Message-ID: <003701beee4c$9e58d6a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1D4D@NT6> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Has anyone else noticed the occasional weird lines and other screen > artifacts appearing while using Acrobat 4 on a Windows computer? It's > beginning to annoy me... I have Win95 here, and Win98 at home, and the > problem seems to crop up on both machines. I've updated the > video drivers on > both machines to the latest and greatest (one's running an > ATI Rage Pro > card, the other is running a Diamond Viper 770 card). No, not seen anything like that. I'd still be inclined to blame the video drivers, bearing in mind that "latest" is not a synonym for "bug free". Try reducing the video acceleration to none, that will eliminate driver effects (though not completely eliminate video card bugs). Desktop; right click; properties; advanced; performance; drag slider to left; OK (will reboot). Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 16:37:56-GMT,4247;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06183 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:37:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06000; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:33:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:32:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05852; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:32:25 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990824091659.00ac83c0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:30:50 -0700 To: "Rich Sprague" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <199908241518.IAA81295@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 8/24/99 08:18 AM , Rich Sprague wrote: > >> My point is that Microsoft's shareholders are already happy due to the > >> company's phenomenal success. And, Arial and Times New Roman are installed > >> on every new Win machine, aren't they? Don't these come from Microsoft? > > > > The Arial MT and Times New Roman PS MT fonts that Acrobat uses were > > installed with Acrobat and are Type 1 fonts. What am I missing this time? > >George: > >Doesn't every Windows system have Arial and Times New Roman installed as >part of the O/S? These are TT fonts. > > >r|i|c|h Actually, yes, every Windows'9X and NT system gets Arial and Times New Roman installed as part of the operating system installation. However, the user can remove and/or modify those fonts. Note the base Arial and Times New Roman fonts were not the "original" Arial and Times New Roman produced by Monotype. These fonts were modified by Monotype for Microsoft to be "set width compatible" with the Linotype produced Helvetica and Times families provided in the original base 13 fonts of PostScript printers. The idea was that documents formatted for PostScript printing would maintain their format under Windows using these substitute fonts (the irony of course is that Microsoft Office and many other GDI applications cannot properly maintain line breaks from printer instance to printer instance when resolution, margins, and/or driver are changed!) Since the time that Microsoft released these fonts with Windows 3.1, many changes have been made to the fonts. The most recent versions added support for the "euro" glyph and also have multiple Unicode encodings and glyph support for Cyrillic, Arabic, and Hebrew! However, Acrobat 4 could not make assumptions about which, if any, of the Arial or Times New Roman versions were installed. Thus, a "known" version of each of these typefaces is installed in Acrobat's private font directory. Surprisingly enough, some of the problems reported on these lists with regards to printing of Times and Helvetica on non-PostScript printers when Times and Helvetica are not embedded in the PDF file (such as all pre-Acrobat 4 documents) may be related to driver and OS confusion between the Arial and Times New Roman "presented" by Acrobat versus the resident "system" versions with the same name. (Yes, this is being investigated!) - Dov _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 16:44:01-GMT,2305;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06471 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:44:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06631; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:40:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:39:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06529; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:39:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:39:39 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? In-Reply-To: <199908241518.IAA81295@mail.inficad.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >> My point is that Microsoft's shareholders are already happy due to the > >> company's phenomenal success. And, Arial and Times New Roman are installed > >> on every new Win machine, aren't they? Don't these come from Microsoft? > > > > The Arial MT and Times New Roman PS MT fonts that Acrobat uses were > > installed with Acrobat and are Type 1 fonts. What am I missing this time? > > Doesn't every Windows system have Arial and Times New Roman installed as > part of the O/S? These are TT fonts. Yes. I guess the part I'm missing is how Microsoft benefits. With Acrobat 4, the Arial MT and Times New Roman PS MT fonts are used in place of their MS TT counterparts. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 16:50:36-GMT,3179;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06654 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:50:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07376; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:46:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:45:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07249; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:45:20 -0500 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF/INDESIGN some relevance Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:50:05 -0400 Message-ID: <000001beee50$b7a08fa0$323d5dd8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You asked for some direct relevance to Acrobat/PDF? I attended a briefing on InDesign last month. One feature they DID NOT bring from PageMaker (its sort of parent) is the ability to export links to PDF. The presenter said that there may be a plug-in for this in the future. Based on the plug-in structure, I got the impression that someone else may make it or they may get around to it. InDesign is a great graphic program, but without the ability to export PDF links, you may as well stick with PageMaker Plus or 6.52. Also, I haven't been able to check out PageMaker Plus. I was hoping for more control over PDF links and support for links to external documents (other PDF files). What I have read tells me PageMaker Plus just has bug fixes and a bunch of templates. I like to use PageMaker as the container for my PDF navigation pages. Unfortunately, it is only a partial solution. After generating the file with the default links, I make my additional links then resort to replacing pages (without links) for changes or updates. It would be great if I could just make my changes in PageMaker and just recreate the file. And, while I'm on the subject, what happened to the Ctrl+Shift+R command for replacing pages? Why did Acrobat 4 delete this most useful of key combinations. Even after all this time I still find myself using the keys when updating files. Having to resort to the mouse is a real pain. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 17:32:26-GMT,2187;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07764 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11562; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:25:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:23:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11338; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:23:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241723.MAA11333@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:26:55 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: RE: [PDF] Arial vs. Helvetica In-Reply-To: <003601beee4b$092db1a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1D4C@NT6> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have old files (before we had atm) that contained the Arial font. When viewed on my monitor at full page @ 1600x1240 resolution you can see that the arial font is not crisp and looks bloated. Helvetica is much more clearer and crisp. >I've compared VWIACREF.PDF side by side: on the one hand >Windows 95, ATM, Acrobat 3.0, Helvetica. On the other, >Windows 98, no ATM, Acrobat 4.0, ArialMT. I have not seen any >obvious differences at all, let alone gross errors. > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 17:32:27-GMT,2399;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07761 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:32:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11561; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:25:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:23:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAB11391; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:23:55 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Arial vs. Helvetica Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <003901beee55$73b316a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908241623.JAA18997@aladdin.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > You mean explicit, not implicit, don't you? But this is not > the case for > the base 14 fonts, which is the whole point here! > > May I repeat my strong request that the actual glyph sets and > actual metrics > of the 14 base fonts become part of the **published PDF > specification**. A good point. Explicit for most fonts, implicit for the base fonts, and the specification is silent on the metrics to use for the base fonts. On reflect I only ASSUME (because that's what my code does) that the values from the AFM files for the base Adobe fonts are always used. I'd second the call: this belongs in the specification. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 17:56:52-GMT,2903;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08451 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:56:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14162; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:50:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:48:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14011; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:48:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241748.KAA15741@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:48:36 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Arial vs. Helvetica From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: castidata@casti-publishing.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We have old files (before we had atm) that contained the Arial font. When > viewed on my monitor at full page @ 1600x1240 resolution you can see that > the arial font is not crisp and looks bloated. Helvetica is much more > clearer and crisp. > > >>I've compared VWIACREF.PDF side by side: on the one hand >>Windows 95, ATM, Acrobat 3.0, Helvetica. On the other, >>Windows 98, no ATM, Acrobat 4.0, ArialMT. I have not seen any >>obvious differences at all, let alone gross errors. >> A page of Times New Roman will be approximately 15% larger than the same page set in Times. The respective size of Arial and Helvetica are very similar. But, let's face it. For whatever the various reasons, Arial and Times New Roman have become the defacto standard on Windows and Macs. And for business docs and the like either one is very acceptable. 95% of computer users don't have a clue and don't care. Now, as a designer, fonts are as subjective as types of coffee. That's why there are thousands of styles to choose from, including such very similar fonts as Helvetica, Arial and Neue Helvetica. Then I have to choose between PS and TT format. I think I'll just throw out my several thousand dollar PS font collection and replace it with OpenType. r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 18:19:02-GMT,1945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09142 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:19:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16913; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:14:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:13:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16757; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:13:27 -0500 Message-ID: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E501030DDA@MV_EXCHANGE_2> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] IE and Named Destinations Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:35:56 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have solved what I thought was a problem using Named Destinations with IE. The linking will not work if you are testing the file locally, as it does with Netscape Navigator. However, if you place the target PDF file on a server so that it can be addressed by a full URL, everything works as you would expect. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 18:50:51-GMT,2170;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10359 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:50:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19928; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:43:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:41:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19597; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:41:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824144546.008adac0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:45:46 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? In-Reply-To: <37C2AD83.BD2723C8@pre-print.com> References: <199908241226.FAA53163@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> >If they're True Type, I thout Apple made them. > No. Microsoft and Apple collaborated (ok, ok, Aandi, conspired) on the spec for TT. The base TT fonts distributed with Windows are from Monotype as has been mentioned elsewhere. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 18:53:36-GMT,2370;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10378 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:51:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20438; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:46:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:45:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20242; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:45:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824145020.008ae7c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:50:20 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? In-Reply-To: References: <37C2AD83.BD2723C8@pre-print.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >The Arial MT and Times New Roman PS MT fonts that Acrobat uses were >installed with Acrobat and are Type 1 fonts. What am I missing this time? The MT versions are Type1, but Arial (no MT) and Times New Roman (no PS, no MT) are Truetypes; both are there by default on all Windows installs. Earlier versions of Acrobat installed Helvetica and Times instead. When confusion reigns, it pours. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 18:58:29-GMT,2317;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10574 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:58:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21220; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:53:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:52:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20990; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:51:59 -0500 Message-ID: <37C2E958.3C67D62E@vdiprinting.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:50:10 -0500 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts...new question References: <199908241438.HAA73482@mail.inficad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ While we are on this font subject, perhaps someone can explain this phenomenon. I had received a PDF from a customer that was created by Acrobat 3 on the Windows. When I opened that file in Illustrator on the Mac, some of the fonts (I no longer have the file and I don't remember which font was involved, though I think it was a Times New Roman Italic) did not display correctly (the letter "f" displayed differently). If I first opened the same file on the Mac in Acrobat Reader, where the font displayed correctly, I could open the file again in Illustrator, and the font was now correct. What was going on? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 19:10:18-GMT,2092;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10873 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:09:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22376; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:05:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:03:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22268; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:03:53 -0500 Message-ID: <37C2EC2F.BB82613F@vdiprinting.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:02:18 -0500 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts, apostrophes and screen artifacts: same problem? References: <37C2AD83.BD2723C8@pre-print.com> <3.0.5.32.19990824145020.008ae7c0@pop.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve Rindsberg wrote: > When confusion reigns, it pours. > ...and pours. With Windows 2000 beta, I could not get a number of TT fonts to work, such as Arial and Times New Roman. I found that I had to install Office 2000 which installed Microsoft's new OpenFace font to have Arial and Times New Roman. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 19:11:08-GMT,2984;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10766 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:04:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21873; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:00:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:59:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21750; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:59:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:59:13 +0100 (BST) From: Kevin Rogers X-Sender: krogers@tirin.openworld.co.uk To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can\'t accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files - TT version Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Hello Laura: > > Yes it does indeed. I discovered this fact through recent testing. There > must be something in the PS that Microsoft writes that ensures that their > TT > fonts are included/embedded, rather than the PS fonts that Adobe installs > with Acrobat. > As far as my understanding goes, and the Adobe documentation tells me, TT fonts can only be embedded in a PDF if they are included in the postscript file you are distilling. I'd guess you would need to look for an option in your printer driver, MS Word or whatever, that does not include any fonts in the postscript. This option could be something along the lines of 'download fonts to printer', or similar. If the postscript file doesn't have any fonts contained in it, you should be able to use distiller to explicitly set which font is used, and which isn't. Try putting the TT font in 'never embedd' and the Adobe Acrobat font in 'always embedd', you can select which directory the font is taken from. I am only guessing with the above, I don't use PC's for PDF creation all that often. I think it would work on the Mac, but I can't try it just at the moment. Maybe I'll give it a go later. Kevin Rogers PDF Production (Night shift) Open World Ltd > Another instance of craziness, and confusion, caused by Adobe and > Microsoft. > > Take care, now. > > r|i|c|h _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 20:53:30-GMT,2732;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13804 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32577; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:33:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:31:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32289; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:31:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Arial vs. Helvetica Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:31:12 +0100 Message-ID: <004101beee6f$9b9a16e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908241723.MAA11333@everglades.binc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry, I don't think we are comparing the same thing. You have files made using Arial through Distiller, I suspect, with a converted font. It may well look less perfect than Helvetica. I am trying to confirm reports that the SAME PDF file is viewing differently in Acrobat 4 -because- Acrobat 4 substitutes Arial for Helvetica. I can't see this problem at all, and I suspect that cause and effect are not as straightforward as this is being made out to be. Aandi > We have old files (before we had atm) that contained the > Arial font. When > viewed on my monitor at full page @ 1600x1240 resolution you > can see that > the arial font is not crisp and looks bloated. Helvetica is much more > clearer and crisp. > > > >I've compared VWIACREF.PDF side by side: on the one hand > >Windows 95, ATM, Acrobat 3.0, Helvetica. On the other, > >Windows 98, no ATM, Acrobat 4.0, ArialMT. I have not seen any > >obvious differences at all, let alone gross errors. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 22:46:59-GMT,3660;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16960 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:46:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11687; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:43:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:40:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11336; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:40:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:40:46 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Document Name In-Reply-To: <37A4815B.FD7D167B@lauterkranz.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Here is the Problem again: > > If I generate a form field with pdf-marks > and add a javascript (in the pdfmark) that executes when the document > opens. > On Open Acobat gives me a javascript error: "var f has no property". > > the pdf mark code I use is this: > > [ /T (testfield) % title > /Subtype /Widget > /FT /Tx % field type text box > /DV (Testing) % default value > /Rect [ 75 586 456 663] > /F 4 % field is printable > /BS << /S /S /W 1 >> % border style solid, width = 1 > /MK << > /BC [ 1 0 0 ] % border color red > /BG [ 1 1 1 ] >> % background color white > /ANN pdfmark > > [ /_objdef {TestScript} /type /dict /OBJ pdfmark > [ {TestScript} << /JavaScript << /Names [ (test) << /S /JavaScript > /JS (var f = this.getField\("testfield"\);\rvar p = this.path;\rf.value = > p.substring(p.lastIndexOf\("/"\) + 1, p.length\);) >>] > >> >> > /PUT pdfmark > [{Catalog} << /Names {TestScript} >> /PUT pdfmark > > The Javascript can be found in the Document Javascripts. > > When I put the same code (unescaping the escape characters) into the > OpenPage Action of Acrobat: IT WORKS!! Thanks to a suggestion by Max Wyss over on the Acrobat_Win user forum on the Adobe web site, I have been able to get this working. You need to add two pdfmarks. The pdfmark Reference Manual that is on the Acrobat 3.01 CD has the pdfmark code you'll need. Here they are as eps: %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 %%BoundingBox: 0 0 72 72 %%EndProlog % Includes these required entries: % Fields (the array from where all fields in the form can be found) % Default Appearance (DA) % Default Resources (DR) % NeedApperances boolean, set to true so fields are displayed when the document is opened [ /_objdef {afields} /type /array /OBJ pdfmark [ /_objdef {aform} /type /dict /OBJ pdfmark [ {aform} << /Fields {afields} /DR << /Font << /ZaDb {ZaDb} /Helv {Helv} /TiIt {TiIt} /TiRo {TiRo}>> >> /DA (/Helv 10 Tf 0 g ) /NeedAppearances true >> /PUT pdfmark %%EOF and %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 %%BoundingBox: 0 0 72 72 %%EndProlog [ {Catalog} << /AcroForm {aform} >> /PUT pdfmark %%>> %End AcroForm %%EOF _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 24-Aug-1999 22:47:00-GMT,2769;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16962 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:46:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11322; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:40:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:36:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11026; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:36:38 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824184120.00909750@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:41:20 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing fonts...new question In-Reply-To: <37C2E958.3C67D62E@vdiprinting.com> References: <199908241438.HAA73482@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Haven't a clue what causes this, but either we're both gone mad together or it's a real issue. My problems with it on the Mac went away after I ditched all the silly TTequivalents of the base PS fonts then uninstalled/reinstalled Acrobat. > >While we are on this font subject, perhaps someone can explain this phenomenon. >I had received a PDF from a customer that was created by Acrobat 3 on the >Windows. When I opened that file in Illustrator on the Mac, some of the fonts >(I no longer have the file and I don't remember which font was involved, though >I think it was a Times New Roman Italic) did not display correctly (the letter >"f" displayed differently). If I first opened the same file on the Mac in >Acrobat Reader, where the font displayed correctly, I could open the file again >in Illustrator, and the font was now correct. > >What was going on? > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 12:23:22-GMT,4690;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04463 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 06:23:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19906; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:16:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:11:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19382; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:11:22 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567D8.0040DAE1.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:10:05 +0100 Subject: Re(5): [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files - TT version Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Kevin, >>>> Yes it does indeed. I discovered this fact through recent testing. There > must be something in the PS that Microsoft writes that ensures that their > TT > fonts are included/embedded, rather than the PS fonts that Adobe installs > with Acrobat. > >>> As far as my understanding goes, and the Adobe documentation tells me, TT fonts can only be embedded in a PDF if they are included in the postscript file you are distilling. I'd guess you would need to look for an option in your printer driver, MS Word or whatever, that does not include any fonts in the postscript. This option could be something along the lines of 'download fonts to printer', or similar. I (Win95, AdobePS 4.x, Distiller 3.00) tried the following telling AdobePS to download TTFs as "don't send" (instead of "outlines") I generared a PDF File (on Distiller 3.00) Opening on AcorRead4 or AcroExch3 the text dissapeared and fontinformation is empty (--> distiller ignored the font I didn't send) I'm not sure why Acrobat doesn't say "hey, there's a font, wich is not embedded nor one of the base fonts - why not take the font installed on the OS?" (maybe it touches the ttf-problem described below) >>> If the postscript file doesn't have any fonts contained in it, you should be able to use distiller to explicitly set which font is used, and which isn't. I can't tell Distiller (3.00) to do anyting with True Type Fonts, only wich Type1 fonts to embed. >>> Try putting the TT font in 'never embedd' and the Adobe Acrobat font in 'always embedd', you can select which directory the font is taken from. I guess that Acrobat font means Type1 font. The major problem is that font names differ, so Distiller can't substitute the TTF with a Type1 font. This shows up to the general True Type Font problem: PS driver embeds TTF in MSTTxxx format with the chars being remapped (a is now called z, b is called a, etc...) and the fontname gone (e.g "Frutiger Roman" is now called "MSTT4711"). The remapping causes the loss of textinformation (needed for search and copy&paste) and in cause of the changed fontname you will never ever be able to tell Distiller wich font should be replaced by what. Some time ago I examined the PS-code generated by AdobePS. I'm not an PS expert, but I found a section where the TTF font was encoded. In the font header both font names showed up: Frutiger Roman _and_ MSTTxxxxx). But viewing the result Distiller decided to take the wrong name. Quoting Rich's "Adobe, are you listening?" Why not fix this major problem (known since 1995) before adding whistles and bells? Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 13:38:54-GMT,2644;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05996 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:38:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31425; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:34:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:32:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31126; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:32:24 -0500 Message-ID: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B559A@sungard-finance.fr> From: URIA Emmanuel To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Bad BBox for Arial and TimesNewroman fonts ! Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:07:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA31107 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello everybody, Again, I have a question about PDF ;-) I'm creating PDF files with my own C program. I include in, some fonts like LucidaSansTypewriter (Reg, Bold, Oblique and BoldObl), with their fontdescriptor and widths objects, plus others type 1 fonts like Arial and TimesNewRoman (without descriptor and widths objects cause they are some of the base 14 type 1 fonts). The problem is, when I open my file with Acrobat Reader 4.0, the Lucida font is ok, but the width for Arial and TimesNewRoman isn't good, and the Reader tells me that these fonts have a bad Bbox. I don't understand why cause PDF 1.3 Reference Manuel says that the widths and the fontdescriptor are not required for the base 14 type 1 fonts. I need some help ! Regards -- Emmanuel URIA Sungard Finance SAS 173, Bureaux de la colline Bâtiment E 92213 Saint Cloud Cedex - France Phone : +33 (1) 49 11 31 46 Fax : +33 (1) 49 11 30 65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 14:18:56-GMT,2773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06961 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:18:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04499; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:13:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:11:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04233; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:11:49 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad BBox for Arial and TimesNewroman fonts ! Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:11:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000701beef03$c64fa000$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B559A@sungard-finance.fr> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Again, I have a question about PDF ;-) > I'm creating PDF files with my own C program. I include in, > some fonts like > LucidaSansTypewriter (Reg, Bold, Oblique and BoldObl), with their > fontdescriptor and widths objects, plus others type 1 fonts > like Arial and > TimesNewRoman (without descriptor and widths objects cause > they are some of > the base 14 type 1 fonts). > The problem is, when I open my file with Acrobat Reader 4.0, > the Lucida font > is ok, but the width for Arial and TimesNewRoman isn't good, > and the Reader > tells me that these fonts have a bad Bbox. > > I don't understand why cause PDF 1.3 Reference Manuel says > that the widths > and the fontdescriptor are not required for the base 14 type 1 fonts. Arial and TimesNewRoman are not base fonts, no matter what recent discussion may have said. Helvetica and Times-Roman are the font names you must use...even if they eventually get displayed with Arial and TimesNewRoman. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 14:27:54-GMT,1824;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07172 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05820; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:22:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:20:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05488; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:20:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? - prn files Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:20:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Someone has probably pointed this out already, but PostScript files begin with %!PS not %%PS On 08/20/1999 Laura.Dietz wrote: "...Distiller takes all files that begin with %%PS :-)" _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 16:09:34-GMT,2614;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10064 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:09:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21021; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:00:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:58:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20563; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:58:38 -0500 Message-ID: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B559B@sungard-finance.fr> From: URIA Emmanuel To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Bad BBox in PDF ! Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:11:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA20559 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello everybody, Again, I have a question about PDF ;-) I'm creating PDF files with my own C program. I include in, some fonts like LucidaSansTypewriter (Reg, Bold, Oblique and BoldObl), with their fontdescriptor and widths objects, plus others type 1 fonts like Arial and TimesNewRoman (without descriptor and widths objects cause they are some of the base 14 type 1 fonts). The problem is, when I open my file with Acrobat Reader 4.0, the Lucida font is ok, but the width for Arial and TimesNewRoman isn't good, and the Reader tells me that these fonts have a bad Bbox. I don't understand why cause PDF 1.3 Reference Manuel says that the widths and the fontdescriptor are not required for the base 14 type 1 fonts. I need some help ! Regards -- Emmanuel URIA Sungard Finance SAS 173, Bureaux de la colline Bâtiment E 92213 Saint Cloud Cedex - France Phone : +33 (1) 49 11 31 46 Fax : +33 (1) 49 11 30 65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 16:10:46-GMT,3570;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10086 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:10:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22205; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:07:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:06:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21968; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:06:01 -0500 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Catalog 3 GPF Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:10:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000601beef14$66b86ee0$3b3d5dd8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <199908231333.IAA23286@newton.pconline.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This was from over a year back. The tables in PM are the problem. Change the tables to the newest version of the PM table editor (sorry but I don't remember all the version numbers). Even if the PM file itself is of the most current version, you must open each table individually and save them again. I wasn't the one having this problem, so I don't recall all the specifics. Good Luck -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On Behalf Of jrb@artimex.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 9:33 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Catalog 3 GPF The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I recall seeing a reference to this error, but cannot find it in the archive. I am printing Postscript from PageMaker 6.5, then distilling with Distiller 3 all on Windows 95. The resulting PDF files look good but Catalog 3 will fail consistently with any file whose Pagemaker original has a graphic image in EPS format with text in the image. (The client has produced many inserted tables in eps format) Error details indicates Catalog produced a GPF in module COMPCORE.DLL. The index is being built on a Pentium using a hard drive with 1.1 GB free space. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. Joseph R. Brashear email: jrb@artimex.com President phone: 612-374-4643 The One-Off CD Shop Minneapolis fax: 612-374-3901 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- *NEW* in PDF Showcase: "Rocket Scientists Prefer PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/rocket-scientists.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 16:10:51-GMT,2419;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10094 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:10:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22148; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:06:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:05:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21919; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:05:46 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990825090337.00ad9240@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:05:19 -0700 To: "Leslie, Cynthia" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? - prn files Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 8/25/99 07:20 AM , Leslie, Cynthia wrote: >Someone has probably pointed this out already, but PostScript files begin >with > > %!PS > >not > > %%PS > > >On 08/20/1999 Laura.Dietz wrote: > >"...Distiller takes all files that begin with %%PS :-)" Actually, any line that starts with % is simply a comment line. Only be convention do driver and application files start with any particular comment. It is actually totally unnecessary for normal PostScript printing or for distillation! - Dov _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 17:00:57-GMT,2566;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11472 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:00:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31142; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:56:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:55:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31000; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:55:44 -0500 Message-ID: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B559C@sungard-finance.fr> From: URIA Emmanuel To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad BBox for Arial and TimesNewroman fonts ! Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:56:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA30996 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Arial and TimesNewRoman are not base fonts, no matter what recent discussion may have said. Helvetica and Times-Roman are the font names you must use...even if they eventually get displayed with Arial and TimesNewRoman. Aandi > > That's true once again Aandi ;-) you're right ! I have another question for all of you. When I print a file from Acrobat Reader 4.0 using the LucidaSansType fonts, there is a difference between the printing with PCL and PS. In fact, PCL printing is the same as on my screen, but the PS printing is wider than PCL. Do my Fontdescriptor or/and Widths objects have an influence to the printing ??? Regards -- Emmanuel URIA Sungard Finance SAS 173, Bureaux de la colline Bâtiment E 92213 Saint Cloud Cedex - France Phone : +33 (1) 49 11 31 46 Fax : +33 (1) 49 11 30 65 > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 17:01:01-GMT,2304;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11469 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:00:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31081; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:56:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:54:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30875; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:54:44 -0500 Message-ID: <01151307D401D211A39100805F7479530262A1@mailgate.clearface.co.uk> From: Paul To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing Graphics on non-postscript printers Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:57:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have created a document inQuark Express 4.0 and distilled in Acrobat 4.0. It looks great on screen and on my postrscript printer. However now I have distributed it a number of recipients are compaining that a page of images (logos) are arranged wrongly (elements "sent to back" are in front of other elements. It turns out that the file still looks fine on screen, but when output to a non-postscript printer errors occur. I suggested printing a page at a time (in case it was a memory problem) and this helps in some cases, but not others. How can I resolve this? Thanks PAUL DAY CLEARFACE GROUP CASWALL HOUSE, WHARF STREET GODALMING, SURREY GU7 1NN TEL: (0)1483 424298, FAX: (0)1483 424480 paul@clearface.co.uk _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 17:28:26-GMT,2715;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12355 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:28:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01180; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:17:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:15:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00995; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:15:34 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990825131949.0090f950@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:19:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Can disiler makes mistake? - prn files In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990825090337.00ad9240@mail-303> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Actually, any line that starts with % is simply a comment line. >Only be convention do driver and application files start with >any particular comment. It is actually totally unnecessary >for normal PostScript printing or for distillation! > But like so many conventions, it's one best observed. Some autoswitching printers look for %! or more when deciding whether they're being fed a PS file or something else. Omit the %! and risk killing off more of the rain forest with PCL-printed listings of your PS code. Likewise, some apps have built-in PS interpreters. These, or the file parsers that decide which interpreter/import filter to pass a given file to, may reject a legitimate PS file because it lacks this comment. Illustrator 7/Win, for example. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 17:29:49-GMT,3569;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12386 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:29:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02182; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:24:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:23:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02052; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:23:47 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@192.168.0.10 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B559B@sungard-finance.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:23:29 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad BBox in PDF ! Cc: Uria@sungard-finance.fr Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ TimesNewRoman and Arial are NOT Type 1 fonts; they are TrueType fonts. They are in fact bastardised versions of the Type 1 originals Times and Helvetica. And as such they are not part of the base 14 fonts. My first piece of advice would be to avoid TrueType fonts like the plague, they do not adhere to the same standards as Type 1 fonts and often cause problems when it comes to printing. So try replacing the TrueType names with the correct Type 1 names. But if you REALLY HAVE to use TrueType fonts then ensure that you have the correct type set for the font. It should read /TrueType and NOT /Type1. If that doesn't work, then I would repeat my earlier suggestion that you use real fonts, any authorised Adobe Type 1 fonts will do. Good luck. I v a n ... > >Hello everybody, > >Again, I have a question about PDF ;-) >I'm creating PDF files with my own C program. I include in, some fonts like >LucidaSansTypewriter (Reg, Bold, Oblique and BoldObl), with their >fontdescriptor and widths objects, plus others type 1 fonts like Arial and >TimesNewRoman (without descriptor and widths objects cause they are some of >the base 14 type 1 fonts). >The problem is, when I open my file with Acrobat Reader 4.0, the Lucida font >is ok, but the width for Arial and TimesNewRoman isn't good, and the Reader >tells me that these fonts have a bad Bbox. >I don't understand why cause PDF 1.3 Reference Manuel says that the widths >and the fontdescriptor are not required for the base 14 type 1 fonts. >I need some help ! >Regards > >> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> >________________________________________________________________ Ivan Markovic Twelve Horses Director of Information Technology 66 Lr. Baggot Street Dublin 2 Direct: + 353 1 2402544 Mobile: + 353 87 2939256 Fax: 01 2402555 mailto: ivan.markovic@vltec.com url : http://www.vltec.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 17:41:26-GMT,1863;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12763 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:41:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03407; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:36:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:35:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03239; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:35:18 -0500 Message-ID: <37C4295D.73F7170C@facstaff.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:35:25 -0500 From: Theodore A Peterson Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Creating a Mailto link in a PDF document Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I would like to create an author 'mailto' link in a PDF document when viewed in a browser. How could this be done? Any references I should note or examples of this having been done would be appreciated. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 17:41:58-GMT,3368;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12777 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:41:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03128; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:34:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:32:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02964; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:32:42 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@192.168.0.10 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B559C@sungard-finance.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:32:26 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad BBox for Arial and TimesNewroman fonts ! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The answer to this question is already contained in my answer to your initial question (sorry I did not see Andi's reply) concerning problems using TrueType fonts. The font you are having problems with is a TrueType font and so my first answer to your question would be to say "I told you so". But to be a bit more helpful, and to answer your question: why are you seeing such a difference? The hinting applied to TrueType fonts (hinting is a special process applied to converting a font's characters into a bitmap for printing or display) is not always accurately or properly described, this can cause quality issues and contribute to the variance you see in the printed output. Also the renderer used in these two printers is different and may well interpret the hints (which, as I mentioned before, may not be properly defined) differently. This would lead to a difference in output. The solution? Use Type 1 fonts. Sorry. I v a n ... P.S. If you want more info on hinting I have a PDF file that explains it very simply and graphically. > That's true once again Aandi ;-) you're right ! > I have another question for all of you. > When I print a file from Acrobat Reader 4.0 using the LucidaSansType >fonts, there is a difference between the printing with PCL and PS. In fact, >PCL printing is the same as on my screen, but the PS printing is wider than >PCL. > Do my Fontdescriptor or/and Widths objects have an influence to the >printing ??? > > Regards Ivan Markovic Twelve Horses Director of Information Technology 66 Lr. Baggot Street Dublin 2 Direct: + 353 1 2402544 Mobile: + 353 87 2939256 Fax: 01 2402555 mailto: ivan.markovic@vltec.com url : http://www.vltec.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 18:00:08-GMT,3317;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13288 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:00:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05681; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:55:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:54:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05539; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:54:21 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:57:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Graphics on non-postscript printers From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Script: \\filterscript.mml Message-Id: <17541463249117@acquiredknowledge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try printing the file as an image. This option can be found in the print dialog of Acrobat. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ---------- >From: Paul >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: [PDF] Printing Graphics on non-postscript printers >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 9:57 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I have created a document inQuark Express 4.0 and distilled in Acrobat > 4.0. It looks great on screen and on my postrscript printer. > > However now I have distributed it a number of recipients are compaining > that a page of images (logos) are arranged wrongly (elements "sent to > back" are in front of other elements. > > It turns out that the file still looks fine on screen, but when output > to a non-postscript printer errors occur. I suggested printing a page at > a time (in case it was a memory problem) and this helps in some cases, > but not others. > > How can I resolve this? > > Thanks > PAUL DAY > CLEARFACE GROUP > CASWALL HOUSE, WHARF STREET > GODALMING, SURREY GU7 1NN > TEL: (0)1483 424298, FAX: (0)1483 424480 > paul@clearface.co.uk > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 18:02:35-GMT,2559;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13386 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:02:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05791; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:56:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:55:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05653; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:55:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:58:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Graphics on non-postscript printers From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Script: \\filterscript.mml Message-Id: <17553124249165@acquiredknowledge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: Paul >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: [PDF] Printing Graphics on non-postscript printers >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 9:57 AM > > However now I have distributed it a number of recipients are compaining > that a page of images (logos) are arranged wrongly (elements "sent to > back" are in front of other elements. > > It turns out that the file still looks fine on screen, but when output > to a non-postscript printer errors occur. I suggested printing a page at > a time (in case it was a memory problem) and this helps in some cases, > but not others. > > How can I resolve this? Try printing as image. This option can be found in the Acrobat print dialog. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 18:03:31-GMT,2804;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13434 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:03:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06077; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:59:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:58:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05965; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:58:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199908251758.MAA05956@everglades.binc.net> Date: 25 Aug 99 14:00:16 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] Standing up for TT To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA05961 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: [PDF] Standing up for TT >My first piece of advice would be to avoid TrueType fonts like the plague, >they do not adhere to the same standards as Type 1 fonts and often cause >problems when it comes to printing. So try replacing the TrueType names >with the correct Type 1 names. I have heard this "advice" sooo many times, and for the life of me I have just not seen the problem. Granted, I am now working for a direct digital printer (printing to DocuTech 135's, a 6180, and a DocuColor 40) Speaking of which, I don't have a single Type 1 font on the PC side. (I intermix on the Mac) In my previous days in a service bureau I can't recall a problem either. But perhaps a) I was just lucky, b) it was too far back to remember, or c) this is just a stigma against the problems that TrueType CAN create, not necessarily WILL. And if it is problems with TrueType and film output you are referring to, then it should be clarified as such. Or am I just missing something in this "Use Type 1 over TrueType" thing? Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 18:10:03-GMT,3390;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13593 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:10:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06691; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:03:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:02:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06484; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:02:31 -0500 Message-ID: <19990825180202.68914.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [208.238.117.8] From: "yong wang" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] convert PDF file to spreedsheet Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:02:01 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear friends: I currently have the problem of coverting PDF file into the spreadsheet and would like to have your help. In the PDF file, there is a list of products with different origins, producers, quantities, models. such as : product A US GE 100 XE100 product B United Kingdom BP 200 YE-200 ... My friend sort of created an excel spreadsheet out of this huge PDF file with brutal force,in the format as follows: Country product producers platform(*) model quantity US A GE X XE100 100 United Kingdom B BP YE YE-200 200 (*. the platform number is captured out of the model) since the publisher of the PDF file updated the file very frequently, and it seems impossible to do the manual work all the time. Our goal is that the excel spreadsheet can automatically be updated from the PDF data source. My question is how we can convert a "bad" data source like PDF file into proper spreedsheet format, as showed above, without brutal force. I cut and pasted the PDF file, but since country names, company names and product names are often not just a single word. The spreedsheet is usually messed up when it tries to put them into columns. Is there any function in Excel which may let the machine recognize , say,united kingdom, as a single proper name and not list it into two columns. or is there any other software or programming language may help to do the work. It will be of great hekp if i can share your thoughts on this. Thanks so much for your time and help. my e-mail is wy70@hotmail.com. sincerely William _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 18:14:06-GMT,2774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13721 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:14:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06863; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:05:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:03:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06718; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:03:57 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:10:15 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: [PDF] Font / tab drift Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I'm new to the list and have missed the beginning of the True Type discussion. My type problem is around Type 1 fonts on Macintosh creating PDF file through the PSprinter and Distillation process. [Tupe 1 recognized by the single letter "A" in icon: Is this correct??] Fonts at issue: - Syntax - Minion PROJECT DISCRIPTION: - large illustrator 6.0 file of 8MB - Alot of tabulated schedules - Colour printing and film required PROBLEM: - Tabs drift to the left by varying amounts, but consistently with regenerated PDFs - Using native file for colour printing eliminates the drift with some PS Rips - Fiery Rip [to film] from native file, reproduces the same tabular drift as the PDF file WORK AROUND: - Create outline fonts on the entire scheule (this swells the smaller type somewhere between a regular and a bold face) QUESTIONS: 1) Has anyone had similar problems with these fonts? 2) Are there any other Fonts that others have found problematic (type 1) 3) What is the similarity between the PSprinter and a Fiery Rip??? 4) Another consideration is the possible difference between fonts for "French" and fonts for "English". I understand that Quark Xpress's French version may have different font postscript. Has anyone heard of this?? Thanks Murray McCombs _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 18:51:49-GMT,6072;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14937 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:51:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10774; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:43:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:41:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10480; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:41:10 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990825112448.00a87760@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:40:40 -0700 To: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re(5): [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files - TT version Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <412567D8.0040DAE1.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Laura et.al., It would appear that you are trying to get the Distiller to embed TrueType fonts by reference. This is NOT a feature of the Distiller. The Distiller can embed Type 1 fonts from whatever directories are specified in the Distiller options, but TrueType fonts can only be embedded if they are in the actual PostScript stream. Truly, the "don't send" option in the driver for TrueType is virtually useless. Make believe it doesn't exist. You should always send TrueType via PostScript to the Distiller as Type42 for maximum quality. The MSTT* names no longer appear once you are using the combination of AdobePS 4.3 and Acrobat 4. You say "Why not fix this major problem (known since 1995) before adding whistles and bells?" Which particular major problem? Assuming that you set the driver correctly and your TrueType fonts are restricted (i.e., no embedding allowed), TrueType, AdobePS 4.3, and Acrobat 4 seem to work quite well together! - Dov At 8/25/99 06:10 AM , Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote: >Hi Kevin, > > >>>> Yes it does indeed. I discovered this fact through recent testing. >There > > must be something in the PS that Microsoft writes that ensures that their > > TT > > fonts are included/embedded, rather than the PS fonts that Adobe installs > > with Acrobat. > > > > >>> As far as my understanding goes, and the Adobe documentation tells >me, TT fonts can only be embedded in a PDF if they are included in the >postscript file you are distilling. I'd guess you would need to look for >an option in your printer driver, MS Word or whatever, that does not >include any fonts in the postscript. This option could be something along >the lines of 'download fonts to printer', or similar. > >I (Win95, AdobePS 4.x, Distiller 3.00) tried the following >telling AdobePS to download TTFs as "don't send" (instead of "outlines") I >generared a PDF File (on Distiller 3.00) >Opening on AcorRead4 or AcroExch3 the text dissapeared and fontinformation >is empty (--> distiller ignored the font I didn't send) I'm not sure why >Acrobat doesn't say "hey, there's a font, wich is not embedded nor one of >the base fonts - why not take the font installed on the OS?" (maybe it >touches the ttf-problem described below) > > > >>> If the postscript file doesn't have any fonts contained in it, you >should be able to use distiller to explicitly set which font is used, and >which isn't. > >I can't tell Distiller (3.00) to do anyting with True Type Fonts, only wich >Type1 fonts to embed. > > > >>> Try putting the TT font in 'never embedd' and the Adobe >Acrobat font in 'always embedd', you can select which directory the font >is taken from. > >I guess that Acrobat font means Type1 font. The major problem is that font >names differ, so Distiller can't substitute the TTF with a Type1 font. This >shows up to the general True Type Font problem: PS driver embeds TTF in >MSTTxxx format with the chars being remapped (a is now called z, b is >called a, etc...) and the fontname gone (e.g "Frutiger Roman" is now called >"MSTT4711"). The remapping causes the loss of textinformation (needed for >search and copy&paste) and in cause of the changed fontname you will never >ever be able to tell Distiller wich font should be replaced by what. > >Some time ago I examined the PS-code generated by AdobePS. I'm not an PS >expert, but I found a section where the TTF font was encoded. In the font >header both font names showed up: Frutiger Roman _and_ MSTTxxxxx). But >viewing the result Distiller decided to take the wrong name. > >Quoting Rich's "Adobe, are you listening?" Why not fix this major problem >(known since 1995) before adding whistles and bells? > >Regards, > Laura Dietz > >=================================================================== >Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany >=================================================================== >Laura Dietz, FIO >E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net >Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 >=================================================================== >For more information: http://www.arcor.net >=================================================================== _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 18:59:47-GMT,2894;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15103 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:59:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11957; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:54:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:53:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11869; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:53:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37C4295D.73F7170C@facstaff.wisc.edu> References: <37C4295D.73F7170C@facstaff.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:46:02 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a Mailto link in a PDF document Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA11865 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 12:35 PM -0500 8/25/99, Theodore A Peterson wrote: >I would like to create an author 'mailto' link in a PDF document when >viewed in a browser. How could this be done? Any references I should >note or examples of this having been done would be appreciated. > The same way you create any other "web link" in a PDF file - just create the link and for the "web link" URL put in your mailto (eg. ). I just tried this with Acrobat 4.0 (MacOS) and when the link was clicked on, it happily switched me to my mail client with a new message created already addressed to the appropriate recipient. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 19:20:17-GMT,5223;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15723 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:20:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13362; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:09:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:08:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13242; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:08:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: , Subject: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:08:19 +0100 Message-ID: <000201beef2d$319b9840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990825180202.68914.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have been reading about the problems supposedly caused by using ArialMT in place of Helvetica, and waiting to see some real explanations. Honestly. All I've seen so far is claims that files display wrong - specifically one of Adobe's developer documents. I don't see this on my systems here. I don't doubt that some people are seeing real problems, but simply posting complaints and saying it is caused by using ArialMT - without any apparent connection except that the first is obviously undesirable, and the second apparently so. This is a problem because 1. It stirs up panic, by suggesting Acrobat is fundamentally broken. Since I haven't been able to reproduce this problem, I think this is more in the area of "obscure bug" than "utterly broken". Simply saying Acrobat is broken is especially unhelpful for people already committed to it; and may also put people off who could really benefit from its use. 2. It does nothing to get the real problems fixed. Adobe are just like any other developer: to fix bugs they need to be able to reproduce them. So...please, someone, post step by step instructions for reproducing this problem. Preferably using a pre-existing publicly available PDF document that a number of different people can look at. And, if you have evidence that it is caused by the use of different screen fonts, please post that too. (Not attachments, of course). Hopping on to soap box now. This isn't just about these lists, about Acrobat, or Adobe. It's a general trend I'm seeing all over. Goodness knows, Acrobat has bugs. I've found several, and made sure they are reported, with the evidence necessary to reproduce them. But I've noticed an ever increasing tendency to simply complain about bugs in vague terms, and complain louder that they are not fixed with new releases, without ever taking steps to be sure they are reported. I realise that most users are not software developers, but understanding cause and effect is surely not rocket science. Is reporting your bugs someone else's job? It may be, but don't be surprised if that someone else doesn't bother either. And, mentioning a bug in a public forum like this one is useful but not the end of the story. There are probably 1000 messages a week on Acrobat in various forums. Mentioning a bug in a forum is NOT the same as reporting it, and don't be surprised if it isn't fixed. I have heard people say, "I shouldn't have to call tech support to report a bug." For goodness sake, if tech support isn't for that, what IS it for? And remember: it might not be a bug. And it might not be in the software you think it is. Perhaps 90% of bug reports turn out not to be bugs in the software at all. Reporting a bug is not a "shoot and run" thing, but an interactive process of discovery for both sides. Software developers could do more, certainly. Especially, they could make it easier to track bugs, and find out about existing ones. But customers have shot themselves in both feet here. I also hear panic and despondency at any product that dares to publish a bug list. People will go for the one without the bug list. This is simply dumb. All software has bugs, and it's important to understand that most of them only strike in relatively obscure situations. Still, developers could help by keeping people informed of the progress of "their" bug at least. Stepping off soapbox now. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 19:58:48-GMT,2205;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17003 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18614; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:53:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:51:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18287; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:51:18 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37C4295D.73F7170C@facstaff.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:49:26 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a Mailto link in a PDF document Cc: Theodore A Peterson Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Theodore, Do a normal weblink and change the "http:... " to mailto:.... and it should work. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I would like to create an author 'mailto' link in a PDF document when >viewed in a browser. How could this be done? Any references I should >note or examples of this having been done would be appreciated. > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 21:09:43-GMT,2304;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19058 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:09:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25309; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:59:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:56:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25009; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:56:41 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:18:05 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: [PDF] Those elusive Form X Objects... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA25005 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ First off, a quick thanks to everybody who shared their knowledge of form X objects, and OPI (Aandi, Rich, Todd, Martin; hope I didn't miss anybody). I know I wasn't the only one who appreciated it, either. Here's an observation, but I'm not sure what it means: I had two documents which were identical except for the graphics. Both were .eps scans, but one was a Photoshop 5.0.2 eps, and the other was a Scitex 3.0 eps. The Scitex eps was converted into the form x object, but not the Photoshop eps. Is this significant to anyone? Jeff Sauber S&S Adv. PS: Yep, turning off OPI stops 'em from being converted into form x objects. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 21:13:01-GMT,2110;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19154 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:12:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26232; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:08:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:06:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26081; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:06:48 -0500 Message-ID: <419AC4196F97D11187C600805FF590A601055661@xch-knt-17.ds.boeing.com> From: "Meyerding, Henry W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] behavior of web links Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:06:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have some linked pdfs for a data map. I have links on some pages to web pages on our intranet. I made these using Acrobat 4.0, but most everyone reads them with the Acrobat 3.0 plug-in to Netscape. Problem: open xyz.pdf and drill down to page with external link. Link works fine. Close browser window that opened with external link, follow links to another web link. Click on it and error message occurs. This happens on Windows 95 and not on Windows NT. Anyone experienced anything like this? Thanks, Henry _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 21:24:43-GMT,2764;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19481 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:24:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27242; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:18:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:16:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27070; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:16:33 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Those elusive Form X Objects... Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:16:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01beef3f$1fec23a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Here's an observation, but I'm not sure what it means: > > I had two documents which were identical except for the > graphics. Both were .eps scans, but one was a Photoshop 5.0.2 > eps, and the other was a Scitex 3.0 eps. The Scitex eps was > converted into the form x object, but not the Photoshop eps. > Is this significant to anyone? An EPS file might or might not contain OPI comments. It always will if it results from an OPI low res creation process, but there seem to be reasons for adding OPI comments the rest of the time. You seem to get them from placing TIFFs into PageMaker, though I don't know why. I think there is a corner of the OPI specification I missed. It might be a "just in case" feature. So, it comes down to: some applications put OPI comments in the PostScript they generate, and some don't. Because they belong in PostScript, they must either come from the application that does the printing (XPress, PageMaker, whatever) or get carried inside an EPS. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 21:32:40-GMT,4509;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19705 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:31:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28249; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:27:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:25:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28122; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:25:49 -0500 Message-ID: <37C45EEF.15B1187B@vdiprinting.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:24:07 -0500 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. References: <000201beef2d$319b9840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi Inston wrote: > > This isn't just about these lists, about Acrobat, or Adobe. > It's a general trend I'm seeing all over. > > Goodness knows, Acrobat has bugs. I've found several, and > made sure they are reported, with the evidence necessary > to reproduce them. But I've noticed an ever increasing > tendency to simply complain about bugs in vague terms, and > complain louder that they are not fixed with new releases, without > ever taking steps to be sure they are reported. I realise > that most users are not software developers, but understanding > cause and effect is surely not rocket science. Is reporting > your bugs someone else's job? It may be, but don't be > surprised if that someone else doesn't bother either. > > And, mentioning a bug in a public forum like this one is > useful but not the end of the story. There are probably > 1000 messages a week on Acrobat in various forums. Mentioning > a bug in a forum is NOT the same as reporting it, and don't > be surprised if it isn't fixed. I have heard people say, > "I shouldn't have to call tech support to report a bug." > For goodness sake, if tech support isn't for that, what IS > it for? > > And remember: it might not be a bug. And it might not be > in the software you think it is. Perhaps 90% of bug reports > turn out not to be bugs in the software at all. Reporting > a bug is not a "shoot and run" thing, but an interactive > process of discovery for both sides. > > Software developers could do more, certainly. Especially, they > could make it easier to track bugs, and find out about existing > ones. But customers have shot themselves in both feet here. > I also hear panic and despondency at any product that > dares to publish a bug list. People will go for the one > without the bug list. This is simply dumb. All software has > bugs, and it's important to understand that most of them > only strike in relatively obscure situations. Still, developers > could help by keeping people informed of the progress of "their" > bug at least. > > Stepping off soapbox now. > > Aandi These are all excellent points you make, but I have one very big contention with the part about reporting bugs to Adobe. How do you? I have never been able to find a place on their site that allowed you to report bugs other than that available for developers. If I want to call them, I have to pay them money to tell them that they have a problem with their application, and I am not going to do that. Allowing me to step on my soapbox, this is a growing trend among software and hardware manufacturers that they do not want to deal with tech support, or they assume any problem is mine and not theirs. Thanks you. I am very sorry for being off topic. I am going to go home now and water the lawn. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 21:41:22-GMT,2521;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20061 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29241; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:36:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:34:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29122; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:34:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:32:07 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Font / tab drift Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA29118 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 1:10 PM -0400 8/25/99, Murray McCombs wrote: >PROJECT DISCRIPTION: > - large illustrator 6.0 file of 8MB You might be a LOT better served by upgrading to Illustrator 8 and letting it generate PDF files directly - bypassing the whole PSPrinter/Distiller process completely. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 22:25:19-GMT,2398;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21302 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:25:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00726; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:20:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:18:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00589; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:18:55 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990825182303.00880ca0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:23:03 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Graphics on non-postscript printers In-Reply-To: <01151307D401D211A39100805F7479530262A1@mailgate.clearface. co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a fairly common problem with some PCL printers. Has to do with the way text and graphics are sent in separate "planes" as it were. Usually fixable by changing the driver settings to Text as Graphics. It's not the fault of Xpress or Acrobat, just a driver/printer/printer language limitation of some printers. >However now I have distributed it a number of recipients are compaining >that a page of images (logos) are arranged wrongly (elements "sent to >back" are in front of other elements. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 22:27:14-GMT,4713;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21377 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:27:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00727; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:20:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:18:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00525; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:18:29 -0500 Message-ID: <0B2759D401C1D211ACA500805FFE2C3F9FF706@cmxserv3.promus.com> From: Rogers Stephens To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Anyone have setup for Acrobat Reader 3.02?? Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:19:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEEF47.C124A870" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEF47.C124A870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We have Acrobat Reader in about 1400 locations and need to upgrade to Acrobat Reader 3.02 (other versions won't work for reasons won't go into). Most effective way to update is via script/batch file that executes a silent install. I have only seen ar302.exe (single file install) available from pdfzone and adobe.com which cannot be told to do a silent install from what I've read. In order to get silent install to work, the "setup.exe" method of install is required--"setup -s" invokes silent install using setup.iss script file. Does anyone have the setup files for Acrobat Reader 3.02?? If so could they be emailed or is there a site they can be downloaded from? We have licenses for Acrobat 3.0 and 3.01..the CDs have both "setup" (located at \acroread\reader\32bit\setup.exe) and single file based installs (located at \acroread\onefile\32bit\ar32e301.exe) so maybe someone has a 3.02 CD out there with setup on it..We called Adobe today and spoke with several folks and they weren't able to help... Thanks!! ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEF47.C124A870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone have setup for Acrobat Reader 3.02??

We have Acrobat Reader in about 1400 = locations and need to upgrade to Acrobat Reader 3.02 (other versions = won't work for reasons won't go into). 

Most effective way to update is via = script/batch file that executes a silent install.  I have only = seen ar302.exe (single file install) available from pdfzone and = adobe.com which cannot be told to do a silent install from what I've = read.  In order to get silent install to work, the = "setup.exe" method of install is required--"setup = -s" invokes silent install using setup.iss script file.

Does anyone have the setup files for = Acrobat Reader 3.02??  If so could they be emailed or is there a = site they can be downloaded from?

We have licenses for Acrobat 3.0 and = 3.01..the CDs have both "setup" (located at = \acroread\reader\32bit\setup.exe) and single file based installs = (located at \acroread\onefile\32bit\ar32e301.exe) so maybe someone has = a 3.02 CD out there with setup on it..We called Adobe today and spoke = with several folks and they weren't able to help...

Thanks!!

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEF47.C124A870-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 23:26:39-GMT,2455;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22874 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:26:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04146; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:55:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:54:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04030; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:54:16 -0500 Message-ID: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E5010495A6@MV_EXCHANGE_2> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Anyone have setup for Acrobat Reader 3.02?? Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:53:59 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Since Adobe builds their installation programs with InstallShield, you can retrieve the component files for the SETUP from the single-file install as follows: 1. Start the single-file installation program. 2. Wait for the screen to come up that asks you to continue by selecting Next. Let the program remain in this state for the next few steps. 3. Go to your TEMP directory and look for the most recent directory with the name ~EXBnnnn, where nnnn is a 4-digit sequence number. 4. Create a directory somewhere else and copy the contents of the directory ~EXBnnnn into it. 5. Go back to the installation program and select Cancel. You could now install Acrobat by running the program SETUP.EXE in the directory you created. Please note that there are a lot of other issues installing 3.02. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 23:27:27-GMT,4520;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22896 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:27:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03280; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:46:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:45:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03153; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:45:07 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1D63@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Arial vs. Helvetica & The Artifact Dilemma Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:42:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> The problem is exactly that: metrics are not being preserved. >> Arial is not Helvetica. >Then that is surely a bug. In a PDF file each character has an >implicit metric, not derived from the actual display font. >Acrobat should not be at liberty to use font metrics, and although >I've seen reports of it doing so, I've never witnessed it. Please accept my humble apologies. You are absolutely correct. On closer examination, it looks like what I was interpreting as bad metrics was in fact more of the same artifact problem I've been complaining about. :-( The colored boxes behind the headers in IACREF.PDF were getting carried down to the bottom of the page (with lots of mostly horizontal artifacts), and it only _appeared_ that type was flowing incorrectly. The artifacts were coming through reliably enough, I interpreted the situation wrongly. I guess I was ready to believe it was bigger problem... not that artifacts are not a problem, but bad metrics are a much bigger deal. >I'd still be inclined to blame the video drivers, bearing in >mind that "latest" is not a synonym for "bug free". >Try reducing the video acceleration to none, that will eliminate >driver effects (though not completely eliminate video card I was hesitant to try this, but I did anyway. It did fix the problem, but resulted in extremely bad screen redraw performance (understandable). I then did some more tinkering, and managed to find a combination of settings (lower number of colors and slightly less than maximum video hardware acceleration). Unfortunately, the problem only disappeared from the Adobe document I was using as a test (IACREF.PDF). All other PDFs I tried to view continued to exhibit the problem. To make a long story short, I have now found a workaround that is acceptable. I've turned font/graphic smoothing off in Acrobat, and that seems to fix the problem, for now. This really looks like an incompatibility between Acrobat and my ATI Rage Pro video card (standard equipment on new Dells last year). The code that is anti-aliasing everything is giving my video card a real workout, and it doesn't like it one bit (sorry, really bad pun). I wish I would have thought to turn off font smoothing earlier. I think I can live with this... type is almost more legible now, anyway. So, sorry for the confusion. Chalk this one up to bad drivers and user hysteria. BTW, Aandi, you're absolutely right: Arial/Helvetica and Times New Roman/Times substitution, if the font isn't embedded, is really no big deal. If you care about the precise appearance of your document (at a glyph by glyph scale), you should embed your fonts. ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 23:27:39-GMT,7391;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22914 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:27:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06410; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:21:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:19:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06144; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:19:06 -0500 Message-ID: <0B2759D401C1D211ACA500805FFE2C3F9FF70C@cmxserv3.promus.com> From: Rogers Stephens To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Anyone have setup for Acrobat Reader 3.02?? Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:20:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEEF50.36E8E890" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEF50.36E8E890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Tommy, great answer--this was a big time solution! Was able to grab the setup files without any problems...any ideas on other issues re installing 3.02?? We're about to roll this to 1400 sites--any ideas/workarounds re install issues would be a tremendous help. Thanks again.. -----Original Message----- From: Teague, Tommy K [mailto:Tommy.Teague@unisys.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 5:54 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Anyone have setup for Acrobat Reader 3.02?? Importance: High The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Since Adobe builds their installation programs with InstallShield, you can retrieve the component files for the SETUP from the single-file install as follows: 1. Start the single-file installation program. 2. Wait for the screen to come up that asks you to continue by selecting Next. Let the program remain in this state for the next few steps. 3. Go to your TEMP directory and look for the most recent directory with the name ~EXBnnnn, where nnnn is a 4-digit sequence number. 4. Create a directory somewhere else and copy the contents of the directory ~EXBnnnn into it. 5. Go back to the installation program and select Cancel. You could now install Acrobat by running the program SETUP.EXE in the directory you created. Please note that there are a lot of other issues installing 3.02. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEF50.36E8E890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Anyone have setup for Acrobat Reader 3.02??

Tommy, great answer--this was a big time = solution!  Was able to grab the setup files without any = problems...any ideas on other issues re installing 3.02??  We're = about to roll this to 1400 sites--any ideas/workarounds re install = issues would be a tremendous help.

Thanks again..

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Since Adobe builds their installation programs with = InstallShield, you can
retrieve the component files for the SETUP from the = single-file install as
follows:
 
1. Start the single-file installation = program.
 
2. Wait for the screen to come up that asks you to = continue by selecting
Next. Let the program remain in this state for the = next few steps.
 
3. Go to your TEMP directory and look for the most = recent directory with the
name ~EXBnnnn, where nnnn is a 4-digit sequence = number.
 
4. Create a directory somewhere else and copy the = contents of the directory
~EXBnnnn into it.
 
5. Go back to the installation program and select = Cancel.
 
You could now install Acrobat by running the program = SETUP.EXE in the
directory you created.
 
Please note that there are a lot of other issues = installing 3.02.
 
Tommy Teague
Unisys Corporation

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------_=_NextPart_001_01BEEF50.36E8E890-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 23:27:47-GMT,2409;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22913 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:27:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01749; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:30:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:29:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01613; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:29:43 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Anyone have setup for Acrobat Reader 3.02?? Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:29:50 +0100 Message-ID: <001001beef49$5884c5a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0B2759D401C1D211ACA500805FFE2C3F9FF706@cmxserv3.promus.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ One tip: DO NOT install 3.02 over the top of 3.01, you may get error messages and surprises. Uninstall 3.01 first, or install 3.02 to a different location. There was no 3.02 CDROM, and as far as I know only the one-file version was ever produced. Aandi P.S. Please don't post HTML messages to the list, thanks, it messes up the digest. -----Original Message----- We have Acrobat Reader in about 1400 locations and need to upgrade to Acrobat Reader 3.02 (other versions won't work for reasons won't go into). Most effective way to update is via script/batch file that executes a silent install.... _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 23:28:13-GMT,2868;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22937 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:28:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01595; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:29:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:28:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01439; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:28:18 -0500 Message-ID: <37C46FDD.C2F4517F@pre-print.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:36:14 -0600 From: Gunnar Blodgett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Font / tab drift References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Leonard (and whoever else is following this) With respect to your advice to Murray: > You might be a LOT better served by upgrading to Illustrator > 8 and letting it generate PDF files directly - bypassing the whole > PSPrinter/Distiller process completely. > Correct me if I'm wrong or going off-topic (and neither would surprise me), but Illustrator 7 and, possibly 6, also generate PDF documents, and they're usually larger than the Distiller versions. I've got a detailed map of Calgary that I built in Illustrator , and the file sizes of the Illustrator and Distiller PDF documents are 1.3 Mb and 387 Kb respectively -- not an insignificant difference, especially if I'm using the documents on a website. Now, I'm no PDF expert, but I think I can tell the difference between ASCII and Binary, and it seems to me that until Illustrator 7 anyway, the direct PDF output appears to be ASCII. Does Illustrator 8 output Binary PDF? Does Illustrator 7? Or does direct Illustrator-to-PDF output merely bypass the font/tab drift problem? Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett Production Analyst Pre Print, Inc. (780) 488-6688 x 338 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 23:31:30-GMT,3718;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23034 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:31:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06775; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:24:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:23:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06692; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:23:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37C46FDD.C2F4517F@pre-print.com> References: <37C46FDD.C2F4517F@pre-print.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:24:21 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Font / tab drift Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA06685 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 4:36 PM -0600 8/25/99, Gunnar Blodgett wrote: >With respect to your advice to Murray: > > > You might be a LOT better served by upgrading to Illustrator > > 8 and letting it generate PDF files directly - bypassing the whole > > PSPrinter/Distiller process completely. > > >Correct me if I'm wrong or going off-topic (and neither would surprise >me), but Illustrator 7 and, possibly 6, also generate PDF documents, and >they're usually larger than the Distiller versions. Illustrator 7 also generated PDF files, but I don't recall if 6 did. As to them being larger, may be related to settings or simply older technology. >Now, I'm no PDF expert, but I think I can tell the difference between >ASCII and Binary, and it seems to me that until Illustrator 7 anyway, >the direct PDF output appears to be ASCII. Does Illustrator 8 output >Binary PDF? Not only does AI8 export Binary, but it also has the same options that Acro4 does in terms of exporting "Press Ready" vs. "Web Ready" so that you can control the levels of compression and such. >Or does direct Illustrator-to-PDF output >merely bypass the font/tab drift problem? > I suspect that it will improve the quality of the PDF's and also address font issues since Illustrator can do a better job of dealing with non-Type 1 fonts by doing direct embedding where the printer driver (as discussed in a different topic) may not. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 25-Aug-1999 23:49:11-GMT,1903;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23477 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:49:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08591; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:44:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:43:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08477; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:43:45 -0500 Message-ID: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E50104962C@MV_EXCHANGE_2> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Anyone have setup for Acrobat Reader 3.02?? Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:43:31 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Glad this helped. Aandi mentioned the biggest issue of all--don't even think about installing Acrobat 3.02 over Acrobat 3.01. You will get your systems and your users very confused. Evidently you don't need to include Search with your installation. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 0:07:32-GMT,2448;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23892 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:07:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10284; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:03:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:02:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10087; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:02:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:08:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: [PDF] Follow-up: Font / tab drift Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>>> I suspect that it will improve the quality of the PDF's and also address font issues since Illustrator can do a better job of dealing with non-Type 1 fonts by doing direct embedding where the printer driver (as discussed in a different topic) may not. <<<<< I tried creating PDF's from Illustrator 7 and 8 as well. Same result. Not only did the Fiery RIP produce the same font tab drift, but to confuse the matter even more, a RIP to an inkjet printer produced perfect results. I'm believing that the problem is indeed the FONT and that the PSprinter and RIP's are responding to some inherent error within this font family. This error may be not be an error at all but a difference in Postscript between French and English Fonts, as Quark Xpress does have a French version of it's software program, and I did receive these fonts from a French Design House, to be used in the Illustrator program. Any thoughts in this direction?? - Murray _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 1:03:24-GMT,3120;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25286 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:03:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11386; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:13:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:11:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11108; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:11:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:59:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] behavior of web links From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Henry.Meyerding@pss.boeing.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990826001149.BMAN17909.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Henry, how about letting us know where the file is, maybe having it do the nasty deed, will help. I have several PCs in the office, and Macs, and have not encountered your problem as of yet, and most of my clients use Windows 95 and 98. Jason Belec :)~ pdfworkflows@home.com ---------- >From: "Meyerding, Henry W" >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: [PDF] behavior of web links >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 5:06 PM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I have some linked pdfs for a data map. I have links on some pages to web > pages on our intranet. I made these using Acrobat 4.0, but most everyone > reads them with the Acrobat 3.0 plug-in to Netscape. Problem: open > xyz.pdf and drill down to page with external link. Link works fine. Close > browser window that opened with external link, follow links to another web > link. Click on it and error message occurs. > > This happens on Windows 95 and not on Windows NT. > > Anyone experienced anything like this? > > Thanks, > > > Henry > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 1:03:28-GMT,3141;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25291 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:03:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11077; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:11:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:10:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10846; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:10:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:58:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] behavior of web links From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Henry.Meyerding@pss.boeing, com@everglades.binc.net Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990826001025.BLDT17909.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Henry, how about letting us know where the file is, maybe having it do the nasty deed, will help. I have several PCs in the office, and Macs, and have not encountered your problem as of yet, and most of my clients use Windows 95 and 98. Jason Belec :)~ pdfworkflows@home.com ---------- >From: "Meyerding, Henry W" >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: [PDF] behavior of web links >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 5:06 PM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I have some linked pdfs for a data map. I have links on some pages to web > pages on our intranet. I made these using Acrobat 4.0, but most everyone > reads them with the Acrobat 3.0 plug-in to Netscape. Problem: open > xyz.pdf and drill down to page with external link. Link works fine. Close > browser window that opened with external link, follow links to another web > link. Click on it and error message occurs. > > This happens on Windows 95 and not on Windows NT. > > Anyone experienced anything like this? > > Thanks, > > > Henry > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 1:15:17-GMT,3303;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25541 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:15:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16431; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:10:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:08:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16246; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:08:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:08:32 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Follow-up: Font / tab drift Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA16237 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 7:08 PM -0400 8/25/99, Murray McCombs wrote: >I tried creating PDF's from Illustrator 7 and 8 as well. Same result. In some ways that's good to know ;). >Not only did the Fiery RIP produce the same font tab drift, but to confuse >the matter even more, a RIP to an inkjet printer produced perfect results. I've heard all sorts of horror stories about the Fiery RIP and problems printing valid PS documents, though usually in complex graphics. >I'm believing that the problem is indeed the FONT and that the PSprinter >and RIP's are responding to some inherent error within this font family. Are you using ATM on the Mac? What version? Whose fonts are they (what foundry)? >This error may be not be an error at all but a difference in Postscript >between French and English Fonts, as Quark Xpress does have a French >version of it's software program, and I did receive these fonts from a >French Design House, to be used in the Illustrator program. French and English are both Roman fonts, and use the same fonts and encodings. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 2:21:56-GMT,2292;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27016 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:21:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22305; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:16:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:14:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22175; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:14:17 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:20:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: [PDF] RE: Follow-up: Font / tab drift Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Leonard >I'm believing that the problem is indeed the FONT and that the PSprinter >and RIP's are responding to some inherent error within this font family. >>>> Are you using ATM on the Mac? What version? Whose fonts are they (what foundry)? <<<< ATM v3.8.2 FONTS: Adobe Postscript fonts (no other foundry mentioned, (ie Master Fonts, Burthold, etc) >This error may be not be an error at all but a difference in Postscript >between French and English Fonts, as Quark Xpress does have a French >version of it's software program, and I did receive these fonts from a >French Design House, to be used in the Illustrator program. <<<<<< French and English are both Roman fonts, and use the same fonts and encodings. >>>>>> Good to know. At least eliminates one variable. - Murray _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 3:30:02-GMT,2118;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28446 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28210; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:25:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:23:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28108; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:23:19 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01beef72$4f390640$b991fdd0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] convert PDF file to spreedsheet Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:48:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ---...or is there any other software or programming >language may help to do the work. It will be of great hekp if i can share >your thoughts on this. Thanks so much for your time and help. my e-mail is Check PDFZone for company that provides "Red Wing" This plug-in for Adobe 3x will export tabular data from PDF into a spreadsheet (Excel). When I purchased this it was around $800 - I don't have any idea what it runs now. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 4:29:56-GMT,2910;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29726 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:29:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00025; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:25:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:23:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA32638; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:23:30 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@interlog.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:29:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: [PDF] RE: Follow-up: Font / tab drift Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Concering Graphic complexity: Transit map and schedules: The project involved importing Autocad dxf files with a third party Adobe plugin allowing all layer structure to be imported in one go. I have no reason to believe this would affect the font/tab drift, as it has performed well in the past, and is disassociated with the schedule generation. I also imported the tabbed text from illustrator into Quark Xpress to be able to view the "invisible" characters to ensure that the tab was defined by a hard tab, and not adjusted by spaces, etc., then reimported to illustrator to layout and adjust. Experience with another job involving tabbing a matrix 104 tabs X 100 lines deep, revealed the tabular limitations of both Quark Xpress and Illustrator, but this limitation applies to contiguous tabbing. Third party plugins didn't extend the tabular capability, The solution was to break the columns into sections then join appropriately. This RIP'd OK. with no signs of font/tab drift (different font). I'm still not convinced that the flaw exists in the Fiery RIP, as a replacement font tabulated OK (at least in the regenerated PDF - not tried on the Fiery). Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't tabulated encoding associated with the font (to correct for visual alignment etc.)?? Who do I contact to question/inform about Font issues at Adobe?? - Murray _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 4:55:12-GMT,2588;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00277 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:55:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01922; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:51:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:50:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01726; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:50:28 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@interlog.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:56:47 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: Re: [PDF] Debugging Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I had deleted the email on debugging and harassing developers, because I have accepted my fate in life..but a number of things need to be mentioned. 1) A debugging eamil of contacts at Adobe would be helpful, and this suggestion of submitting bugs would supplement the speedy correction in software etal. 2) This is a great list!! Probably the definitive source of debugging PDF/Postscript issues, and if the Gods are favourable, a response can be recieved to placate the weary Business Partner or Client. 3) With the ever-present pursuit of perfection, as humans we often forget that, yes we forgot to take out the garbage today, and yes that software feature really doesn't work, but was supposed to. 4) I have also had no luck receiving feedback from Adobe on various issues or suggestions. 5) Even if the issue is obviously a "bug", we must wait for the next release. 6) I'm all alone in the trenches with the Client throwing grenades at me. 7) Allies are protecting their own foxhole. 8) It all seems to work out in the end. Go figure!! - Murray _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 10:12:37-GMT,2475;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA06980 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:12:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22541; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 05:01:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:59:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22350; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:59:47 -0500 Message-ID: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B559E@sungard-finance.fr> From: URIA Emmanuel To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'ivan.markovic@vltec.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad BBox in PDF ! Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:39:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Ivan, Yes, I understand what you mean, and like Aandi, you're right, Helvetica and Times-Roman are the real name of the fonts to put in a file, even if in the fonts directory of Acrobat Reader, the names are TimesNewRoman and Arial ! For the other part of my problem, LucidaSansTypeWriter is a type 1 font I have bought for my application. And once again (I made lot of tests), when I print documents in PCL, the result is not the same as a PS printing. I suppose that Acrobat Reader doesn't use the same font files for PCL printing and PS printing. What are they ? In my directory, I have .pfb and .pfm files. Is it a bug of Acrobat Reader, I don't think so ! Regards for you all -- Emmanuel URIA Sungard Finance SAS 173, Bureaux de la colline Batiment E 92213 Saint Cloud Cedex FRANCE Phone : +33 (1) 49 11 31 46 Fax : +33 (1) 49 11 31 99 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 12:05:09-GMT,2389;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA09026 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:05:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA30545; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:58:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:57:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA30394; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:57:07 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567D9.0046472E.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:55:57 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Standing up for TT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi List, As long as Adobe doesn't put a large banner on Acrobat saying "not for use with True Type Fonts" all problems caused by TTF are bugs. I am really tired of working around, buying 99$ ATM Deluxe licenses and seeing other bugs to appear. When will the banana software turn to yellow? Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 12:43:30-GMT,5472;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA09776 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01164; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:37:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:34:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00863; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:34:20 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@192.168.0.10 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <412567D9.0046472E.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:34:02 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There are a lot of concerns and questions about TrueType, some of which I have addressed others remain unanswered. So let me answer some of those questions and also address some of the recent emails. Ohhh, before I start a little tidbit for those who enjoy irony. When TrueType fonts are converted to print on a PostScript printer they are converted into "Type 42" fonts! For those of you who read Douglas Adams you'll know that "42" is the answer to "life the universe and everything"! Never fails to make me smile. Anyway...... I spent quite some time while at Adobe working on font issues and on a TrueType white paper (which Microsoft Ireland used as reference). The current situation is not as bad now as it was then, but it is confusing. So it might be helpful for me to give a more objective/factual English description of what all the fuss is about. Type 1 is a font format created by Adobe. TrueType (originally called Royal) is a font format bought by Apple and Microsoft is a joint venture. They purchased this font format because Adobe would not make it's Type 1 spec public, and by the time they did make the spec public it was too late and Apple and Microsoft had gone ahead and committed to TrueType. Most Type 1 fonts (based on Bezier curves) are produced by Adobe or companies that license Adobe's tools. These fonts are based on complex and well defined designs and go through strict QA and testing before being released. This process along with license fees and the cost of licensing the Adobe tool set make the fonts 'expensive'. But they are of a good quality, (both visually and programatically) and based on a strict set of rules. TrueType fonts (based on quadratic curves) are a very open standard, with more public tools (some of which are very cheap) that allow fonts to be created relatively easily. But there is no body that controls quality. And the way in which the TrueType format is structured (the hinting to be precise) allows fonts to be produced at varying levels of quality. Most tools/users pick the easy route and generate fonts with a low level of hinting resulting in poor output quality and display problems (especially at low resolutions). The market has been flooded with these cheap/free fonts, which are built poorly and because they come standard on most systems everyone uses them. You truly do not get anything for free! The reason you pay more for Adobe licensed Type 1 fonts is that they are of a high quality and are based on legitimate designs that have consistent appearance across multiple faces. Having said that, the Windows base fonts, Arial and TimesNewRoman were hand tuned and MS spent a LOT of time getting them right, so they aren't half bad as TrueType fonts go. So they shouldn't cause you too many problems; but most of the problems are caused by the different rasterisers that are used to render the TrueType fonts to the screen or to the various printers. I believe that the rasteriser is relatively free/open but that different vendors (including Adobe) use differing rasterisers, which is why output does vary (and of course the variable quality of the fonts themselves does not help). In fact when I last looked Microsoft and Apple use different TrueType rasterisers... I could say more about printing and conversion issues but I will leave it there for the moment. But if quality is important to you, the simple answer is to use quality 'product' and Abode licensed Type 1 fonts are the best way to go. More expensive in the short term, but the font designs are better and it will save you time in the long term. I v a n ... Ivan Markovic Twelve Horses Director of Information Technology 66 Lr. Baggot Street Dublin 2 Direct: + 353 1 2402544 Mobile: + 353 87 2939256 Fax: 01 2402555 mailto: ivan.markovic@vltec.com url : http://www.vltec.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 13:18:47-GMT,4294;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10496 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:18:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04355; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:12:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:11:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04179; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:11:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826140831.0141dec0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:08:31 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed In-Reply-To: References: <412567D9.0046472E.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 13:34 26/08/99 +0100, Ivan E. Markovic wrote: >Most Type 1 fonts (based on Bezier curves) are produced by Adobe or >companies that license Adobe's tools. These fonts are based on complex and >well defined designs and go through strict QA and testing before being >released. This process along with license fees and the cost of licensing >the Adobe tool set make the fonts 'expensive'. But they are of a good >quality, (both visually and programatically) and based on a strict set of >rules. > >TrueType fonts (based on quadratic curves) are a very open standard, with >more public tools (some of which are very cheap) that allow fonts to be >created relatively easily. But there is no body that controls quality. And >the way in which the TrueType format is structured (the hinting to be >precise) allows fonts to be produced at varying levels of quality. Most >tools/users pick the easy route and generate fonts with a low level of >hinting resulting in poor output quality and display problems (especially >at low resolutions). I'm not going to argue with Ivan's conclusions over the relative quality of many Type 1 vs TrueType fonts out there. I do, however, disagree with the arguments he uses to reach that conclusion. I would guess that there are more Type 1 fonts available that were made with relatively cheap tools such as Fontographer, FontLab etc. than with the Adobe tool set. I'm not qualified to say whether or not those cheap tools are poorer than the Adobe tools, but I do know that they are reasonably good at generating hints automatically. From day one you can make well hinted fonts, although the quality of the outline being hinted is up to you :-) A large proportion of the TrueType fonts available were also made with the same tools, but generating good hints for a TrueType font is *much* harder than doing it for Type 1 - Fontographer doesn't even try for instance, and generates unhinted TrueType fonts. Only the very high price TrueType editors will do a good job of hint generation, and even then I gather it's a pretty manual process. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 13:29:00-GMT,3539;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10739 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:28:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05265; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:21:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:20:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05076; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:20:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:23:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199908261323.GAA24758@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: (ivan.markovic@vltec.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed References: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I believe that the [TT] rasteriser is relatively free/open Unfortunately, it is not. The specifications are published, but according to someone I know who has looked into this issue carefully, to get actual hinted TrueType fonts to render properly requires knowledge about undocumented properties of the existing rasterizers. Worse, Apple owns patents on the hinting scheme. That reason, and that reason alone, may prevent the FreeType project (www.freetype.org), which has produced a perfectly good, free, hinted TrueType rasterizer, from allowing it to be used. If Apple licensed their TT rasterizer to third parties, the patents wouldn't be a terrible problem, although I think this is still a good example of the pernicious effect of patented de facto standards. Unfortunately, Apple appears to be incapable of getting their act together to do this. (Details of our multi-year, hitherto unsuccessful attempt to do this omitted.) I assume that Adobe is large enough that they were able to get the attention of Apple or Microsoft, and licensed a rasterizer (or at least the patents) from one of them. Because of the market pressure of Microsoft's support, TrueType has come to dominate Type 1 in the desktop market, even though in my opinion (and apparently that of the referenced posting) the Type 1 format has some technical advantages. Even Adobe switched from their own perfectly good Type 1 fonts to Microsoft-based TrueType fonts for the Acrobat base 14 (which I believe is what started this thread). Thus, despite shoddy documentation, the prevalence of shoddy fonts, semi-proprietary rasterizers, and some technical problems, TrueType fonts must (IMO) be taken into account by anyone working with electronic documents. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 13:40:50-GMT,2342;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10924 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:38:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06296; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:31:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:29:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06151; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:29:58 -0500 Message-ID: <001d01beefc7$c2d19cc0$2367c6d0@millennia> From: "Rich Sprague" To: Cc: "Kurt Foss" References: <199908261323.GAA24758@aladdin.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:34:44 -0700 Organization: RSA Business Solutions LLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Even Adobe switched from their own perfectly good > Type 1 fonts to Microsoft-based TrueType fonts for the Acrobat base 14 [snip] Peter: I don't believe this is true. The Base 14 fonts in Acrobat 14 are PS T1 fonts made by the Montype Corp. (now part of Agfa). If you open a document in Acrobat/Reader 4, and the Base 14 fonts aren't embedded/subset, Adobe will use it's PS version first (Acrobat > Resource > Fonts) folder, rather than the TT version residing on the system. Rich _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 14:01:11-GMT,2672;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11446 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:01:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08931; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:52:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:51:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08730; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:51:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826095519.0090beb0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:55:19 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Follow-up: Font / tab drift In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't tabulated encoding associated with the >font (to correct for visual alignment etc.)?? > What continues to puzzle me about all this is that so far as I know, the concept of tabs is simply foreign to PS and PDF. Have you had a look at the original PS, or a highly simplified version of the same document printed to PS? I'd expect that what appears in the source doc as: Some Text888999 would show up in PS as X1 Y1 (Some Text) show X2 Y2 (888) show X3 Y3 (999) show IOW, no tabs, just commands to put this text here, that text there and so on. If the PS is e.g. playing tricks against the output device resolution to determine text placement, and if the PS is made to one resolution but distilled to another, that might account for a certain amount of drift. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 15:12:06-GMT,2549;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13415 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:11:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17321; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:03:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:02:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17188; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:02:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:05:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199908261505.IAA25094@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, kfoss@pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <001901beefd3$2ec2aa40$cc67c6d0@millennia> (richsprague@inficad.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed References: (ivan.markovic@vltec.com) <199908261436.HAA24950@aladdin.com> <001901beefd3$2ec2aa40$cc67c6d0@millennia> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich, thanks very much for the clarification. To complete this set of questions: - Are the metrics (specifically the escapements aka "widths", but also the bounding boxes) of Acrobat's built-in Arial and Times New Roman identical to those of the Helvetica and Times Roman fonts formerly used in Acrobat and still used in Adobe printers? - Are the available glyphs in the new fonts identical to those of the Helvetica and Times Roman fonts? If not, is there a document somewhere that lists the differences? -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 15:12:37-GMT,3619;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13423 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:12:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15783; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:52:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:51:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15583; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:51:43 -0500 Message-ID: <001901beefd3$2ec2aa40$cc67c6d0@millennia> From: "Rich Sprague" To: Cc: "Kurt Foss" References: (ivan.markovic@vltec.com) <199908261436.HAA24950@aladdin.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:56:30 -0700 Organization: RSA Business Solutions LLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am completely confused now. Many people have complained on this list about > problems that have arisen because Acrobat 4 replaced Helvetica with Arial and > Times Roman with Times New Roman. > - Does Acrobat 4 have Helvetica and Times Roman built in? (The > published PDF specification says this must appear to be the case.) No. > - Does Acrobat 4 has Arial and Times New Roman built in? The built in fonts are Arial MT and Times New Roman MT. These are Adobe PS fonts. > - If a PDF file calls for Helvetica or Times Roman as a built-in > font (that is, not embedded and without a descriptor), in what order > does Acrobat 4 prefer: its own built-in fonts; a possible platform > font with the same name; a possible platform Arial or Times New > Roman font? Acrobat will open the document and view it with Arial and Times New Roman. If Helvetica or Times Roman are resident PS fonts in your printer, then the document will be printed with those fonts. Otherwise, it will print with Arial and Times New Roman substituted. > - If a PDF file calls for Arial or Times New Roman *as a built-in > font* (not embedded and without a descriptor), what does Acrobat 4 > do? Is this allowed? (The published PDF specification says it > isn't.) Uses Acrobat's PS fonts (Arial MT and Times New Roman MT) from the Acrobat > Resource > Fonts folder. If the font was embedded/subset, then Acrobat would use that font first. > > Either a lot of other people have been spreading misinformation about > Acrobat 4, or the statements quoted above from the 2 previous posts are > incorrect (or, of course, possibly both). Any, or all, of the above could be true. Rich _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 15:13:38-GMT,3640;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13448 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:12:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14266; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:39:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:38:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14075; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:38:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: Peter Ring To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:38:08 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA14063 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ While I prefer Type 1 (mostly Adobe releases), I can't help but notice that some of my colleagues prefer using TrueType fonts. Because they appear clearer on screen. To these poor souls, TT TimesNewRoman appears true to life, while T1 Times appears either foggy or jagged. Now this may have something to do with display hardware and display settings; maybe I may have a better display and better graphic card. But the point is, to people that mostly edit text, reading on screen, Microsoft (I live in a Windows NT world) has done a better job. How come Adobe Type Manager's anti-aliasing isn't better? Kind regards Peter Ring -----Original Message----- From: Ivan E. Markovic [mailto:ivan.markovic@vltec.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:34 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: ĆPDFĹ TrueType issues addressed Having said that, the Windows base fonts, Arial and TimesNewRoman were hand tuned and MS spent a LOT of time getting them right, so they aren't half bad as TrueType fonts go. So they shouldn't cause you too many problems; but most of the problems are caused by the different rasterisers that are used to render the TrueType fonts to the screen or to the various printers. I believe that the rasteriser is relatively free/open but that different vendors (including Adobe) use differing rasterisers, which is why output does vary (and of course the variable quality of the fonts themselves does not help). In fact when I last looked Microsoft and Apple use different TrueType rasterisers... I could say more about printing and conversion issues but I will leave it there for the moment. But if quality is important to you, the simple answer is to use quality 'product' and Abode licensed Type 1 fonts are the best way to go. More expensive in the short term, but the font designs are better and it will save you time in the long term. I v a n ... _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 15:13:41-GMT,3711;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13463 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:13:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15755; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:52:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:51:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15546; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:51:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Peter Ring To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=C6PDF=C5_TrueType_issues_addressed?= Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:51:22 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA15541 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I searched on AltaVista for "meaning of life" and got this many hits: "AltaVista found 33981 Web pages." Not quite 42.000, but almost. Anyway, you'll find The Final Answer at http://www.empirenet.com/personal/dljones/index.html Kind regards Peter Ring -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rindsberg [mailto:steve@rdpslides.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 4:07 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: ĆPDFĹ TrueType issues addressed The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Ohhh, before I start a little tidbit for those who enjoy irony. When >TrueType fonts are converted to print on a PostScript printer they are >converted into "Type 42" fonts! For those of you who read Douglas Adams >you'll know that "42" is the answer to "life the universe and everything"! >Never fails to make me smile. If you've access to an older copy of the TIFF spec, read that as well. Oh, heck, I'll save you the trouble. This from the TIFF 5 spec released by Aldus & MS, dated 8/8/88 " ... the TIFF version number (42) has never changed, and probably never will. ... The number 42 was chosen for its deep philosophical significance." In the TIFF 6 spec, this changes to "An arbitrary but carefully chosen number (42) that further identifies the file as a TIFF file." Did they fire the comedian or substitute one with an even drier sense of humor? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 15:13:45-GMT,4001;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13469 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:13:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13607; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:35:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:33:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13457; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:33:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:36:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199908261436.HAA24950@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: (ivan.markovic@twelvehorses.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed References: (ivan.markovic@vltec.com) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have no idea where you got this idea from, but it is not true! The base > 14 fonts contain Helvetica (4 faces) Courier (4 faces) Times (4 faces) > Symbol and Zapf Dingbats. I used the phrase "Microsoft-based" because Arial and Times New Roman are the names of the TrueType fonts that Microsoft supplies with Windows as substitutes for Helvetica and Times Roman, names that were (as far as I know) unknown before Microsoft promulgated them as "standard". I didn't mean to take a position as to who supplied the fonts. > The Base 14 fonts in Acrobat 4 are PS T1 fonts made by the Montype Corp. > (now part of Agfa). If you open a document in Acrobat/Reader 4, and the > Base 14 fonts aren't embedded/subset, Adobe will use it's PS version first > (Acrobat > Resource > Fonts) folder, rather than the TT version residing > on the system. I am completely confused now. Many people have complained on this list about problems that have arisen because Acrobat 4 replaced Helvetica with Arial and Times Roman with Times New Roman. Could someone with certain knowledge (that is, someone who has actually done some tests or who has directly knowledge of the Acrobat code) please answer the following questions: - Does Acrobat 4 have Helvetica and Times Roman built in? (The published PDF specification says this must appear to be the case.) - Does Acrobat 4 has Arial and Times New Roman built in? - If a PDF file calls for Helvetica or Times Roman as a built-in font (that is, not embedded and without a descriptor), in what order does Acrobat 4 prefer: its own built-in fonts; a possible platform font with the same name; a possible platform Arial or Times New Roman font? - If a PDF file calls for Arial or Times New Roman *as a built-in font* (not embedded and without a descriptor), what does Acrobat 4 do? Is this allowed? (The published PDF specification says it isn't.) Either a lot of other people have been spreading misinformation about Acrobat 4, or the statements quoted above from the 2 previous posts are incorrect (or, of course, possibly both). Thanks - L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 15:13:47-GMT,2773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13473 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10238; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:05:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:03:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10070; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:03:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826100719.00918590@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:07:19 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed In-Reply-To: References: <412567D9.0046472E.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Ohhh, before I start a little tidbit for those who enjoy irony. When >TrueType fonts are converted to print on a PostScript printer they are >converted into "Type 42" fonts! For those of you who read Douglas Adams >you'll know that "42" is the answer to "life the universe and everything"! >Never fails to make me smile. If you've access to an older copy of the TIFF spec, read that as well. Oh, heck, I'll save you the trouble. This from the TIFF 5 spec released by Aldus & MS, dated 8/8/88 " ... the TIFF version number (42) has never changed, and probably never will. ... The number 42 was chosen for its deep philosophical significance." In the TIFF 6 spec, this changes to "An arbitrary but carefully chosen number (42) that further identifies the file as a TIFF file." Did they fire the comedian or substitute one with an even drier sense of humor? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 15:15:51-GMT,3246;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13537 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:15:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17601; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:06:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:05:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17498; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:05:29 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <412567D9.005840D4.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:04:22 +0100 Subject: Re(7): [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files - TT version - solved Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA17494 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ---------------------- Weitergeleitet von Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor on 26.08.99 17:04 --------------------------- Absender: Laura Dietz, FIO, Büro: 019 26.08.99, 16:37 Telefon: (950) 5659, Extern: (069) 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 ___________________________________________________________________________ __________ ___________________________________________________________________________ __________ An: Dov Isaacs Kopie: Thema: Antwort: Re(5): [PDF] Acrobat 4 Reader can't accurately print Acrobat 3.01 PDF files - TT version (Document link not converted) Einstufung: Arcor-intern Hi Dov, >>>The MSTT* names no longer appear once you are using the combination of AdobePS 4.3 and Acrobat 4. I guess I do have to apologize *blush*. Yes, with AdobePS 4.3 (released in late July) and Distiller 4.0 (even with Acrobat3 compatability) all textinformation of True Type Fonts is preseved. Thus you can search, copy&paste and use TouchUp in Acrobat 3 and 4. Thank you very much, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 15:44:39-GMT,3152;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14350 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16641; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:58:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:57:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16504; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:57:29 -0500 Message-ID: <37C55574.CCE1582F@vdiprinting.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:55:59 -0500 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed References: <199908261323.GAA24758@aladdin.com> <001d01beefc7$c2d19cc0$2367c6d0@millennia> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Can anyone explain how OpenType is going to fit into this issue of Microsoft TT and Adobe Type 1. From my reading of information on this at Microsoft's site, I quote, "An OpenType font can have Type 1 data only, TrueType data only, or both." What you get is dependent on having ATM, as I understand. Is this going to muddy the waters for Acrobat font rendering concerning Type 1 and TrueType or improve the situation? Rich Sprague wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Even Adobe switched from their own perfectly good > > Type 1 fonts to Microsoft-based TrueType fonts for the Acrobat base 14 > [snip] > > Peter: > > I don't believe this is true. > > The Base 14 fonts in Acrobat 14 are PS T1 fonts made by the Montype Corp. > (now part of Agfa). If you open a document in Acrobat/Reader 4, and the Base > 14 fonts aren't embedded/subset, Adobe will use it's PS version first > (Acrobat > Resource > Fonts) folder, rather than the TT version residing on > the system. > > Rich > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Adobe Press Joins Peachpit Press -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobePressPeachpit.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 15:48:20-GMT,2582;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14471 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:48:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21776; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:41:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:39:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21472; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:39:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199908261539.LAA08284@mx02.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:35:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I just have to comment on this issue after reading countless emails on the trials and tribulations of using ANY type font with Acrobat. PDF FILES ARE NOT EDITABLE AT THE PRE-PRESS STAGE!!!! Any documentation stating otherwise is untrue. If (as I have been reading) the issues surrounding licensing restrictions, font embedding and substitution with Arial, Helvetica.....whatever....are true then how do we (prepress) edit PDF's? Truth in advertising just does not seem to apply to software developers. More like, I made some software, pay for it, test it, report back to me with the bugs, and pay for the fix. thanks for letting me rant...as I am know to do from time to time -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Will Mitchell Reply to: mailto:Will@OffsetHouse.com The Offset House- http://www.OffsetHouse.com 89 Sand Hill Rd | PO Box 8929 | Essex VT 05451 ph 802-878-4440 | fx 802-879-4865 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 16:08:40-GMT,2323;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15005 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:08:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24330; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:02:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:00:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24044; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:00:44 -0500 X-Sent: 26 Aug 1999 15:24:00 GMT Message-ID: <009001beefd7$16bf5e80$05fea8c0@nt40> From: "Mark" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] convert PDF file to spreedsheet Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:24:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I thought that one of the abilities of Acrobat 4.0 was that you can simply highlight the table that you want and paste it into either MS Word which will setup the table format or paste it directly into MS Excel. Nicholas J. Duncan Chief Technical Officer X-Streem Software Solutions Newport Beach, Ca Phone 949-574-1371 www.x-streem.com >I currently have the problem of coverting PDF file into the >spreadsheet and would like to have your help. >In the PDF file, there is a list of products with different origins, >producers, quantities, models. > sincerely > William > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 16:10:01-GMT,3122;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15066 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:09:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24645; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:05:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:04:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24527; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:04:15 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:04:16 +0100 Message-ID: <003301beefdc$a6817c60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37C55574.CCE1582F@vdiprinting.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Can anyone explain how OpenType is going to fit into this > issue of Microsoft TT > and Adobe Type 1. From my reading of information on this at > Microsoft's site, > I quote, "An OpenType font can have Type 1 data only, > TrueType data only, or > both." What you get is dependent on having ATM, as I > understand. Is this > going to muddy the waters for Acrobat font rendering > concerning Type 1 and > TrueType or improve the situation? Well, like it says, an OpenType font can include bits of either kind of font. Apparently Windows 2000 can read OpenType fonts as native, and show either without benefit of ATM. But...well, what are the problems we are discussing? I think the list may have again lost track of the specific issues. I can think of some: 1. TrueType fonts are often turned to PostScript fonts which look less good than the original hinted TrueType fonts. This may be resolved by smarter PostScript drivers that use type 42 fonts - which are really the TrueType fonts without a loss of quality. 2. TrueType fonts turned to PostScript may not be searchable. This may be resolved by smarter drivers too. 3. Some TrueType fonts are not embeddable. This doesn't seem to be a bug, but a licensing restriction some find unwelcome. Anyway, how about some focus on what the situation is that needs to be improved...? Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 16:13:25-GMT,2136;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15163 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:13:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24870; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:07:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:06:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24761; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:06:41 -0500 Message-ID: <003b01beefdd$a7c885e0$be66c6d0@millennia> From: "Rich Sprague" To: References: <199908261539.LAA08284@mx02.together.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:11:28 -0700 Organization: RSA Business Solutions LLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > PDF FILES ARE NOT EDITABLE AT THE PRE-PRESS STAGE!!!! > > Any documentation stating otherwise is untrue. Will: This isn't a fair representation of the facts. No, not all PDFs can be edited at pre-press stage. But, most can. And if they are prepared correctly, the majority can. Furthermore, by using the plug-in PitStop almost all can. Rich _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 17:14:42-GMT,2816;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17251 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:14:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31421; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:08:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:05:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31175; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:05:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:12:05 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: [PDF] RE: Follow-up: Font / tab drift Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>>> would show up in PS as X1 Y1 (Some Text) show X2 Y2 (888) show X3 Y3 (999) show IOW, no tabs, just commands to put this text here, that text there and so on. If the PS is e.g. playing tricks against the output device resolution to determine text placement, and if the PS is made to one resolution but distilled to another, that might account for a certain amount of drift. <<<<< Thanks for exploring the code. Good suggestion, however the drift in some case was as if the wasn't recognized by the PSPrinter nor the Fiery RIP (butted up to preceeding column). In another case, the text actually overlapped on preceeding column (can't manually restrip film in this case). So it now looks as if the Postscript drivers are somehow missing the instruction in the code and not compiling correctly. >>>> Have you had a look at the original PS, or a highly simplified version of the same document printed to PS? <<<< This is an interesting exercise I'd like to try. I'll copy the offending schedule into another Illustrator document, and create an new PS file (and view the distilled PDF to ensure the problem still exists). How do I view the code of the resulting PS?? Can I view using BBedit or another text editor?? Would RESedit be an appropriate program? Thoughts welcome! Murray _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 17:19:46-GMT,4338;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17495 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:19:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32161; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:14:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:13:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31982; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:13:49 -0500 Message-ID: <37C57567.9F9C0D7F@vdiprinting.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:12:30 -0500 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed References: <003301beefdc$a6817c60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi Inston wrote: > > Can anyone explain how OpenType is going to fit into this > > issue of Microsoft TT > > and Adobe Type 1. From my reading of information on this at > > Microsoft's site, > > I quote, "An OpenType font can have Type 1 data only, > > TrueType data only, or > > both." What you get is dependent on having ATM, as I > > understand. Is this > > going to muddy the waters for Acrobat font rendering > > concerning Type 1 and > > TrueType or improve the situation? > > Well, like it says, an OpenType font can include bits of > either kind of font. > > Apparently Windows 2000 can read OpenType fonts as native, > and show either without benefit of ATM. > > But...well, what are the problems we are discussing? I > think the list may have again lost track of the specific > issues. I can think of some: > > 1. TrueType fonts are often turned to PostScript fonts > which look less good than the original hinted TrueType fonts. > This may be resolved by smarter PostScript drivers that > use type 42 fonts - which are really the TrueType fonts > without a loss of quality. > > 2. TrueType fonts turned to PostScript may not be searchable. > This may be resolved by smarter drivers too. > > 3. Some TrueType fonts are not embeddable. This doesn't > seem to be a bug, but a licensing restriction some find > unwelcome. > > Anyway, how about some focus on what the situation is that > needs to be improved...? > Thank you for addressing my questions. Please don't consider them as being academic, because they concern issues directly involved in our workflow. We currently have Acrobat 4 running on Windows 2000 NT. We received a Word document form a customer that had set up some bold type filled with an RGB red that they wanted to print as a specific PMS pro-match. What we usually do is convert the file to a PDF, embedding the fonts, then open it in Illustrator on the Mac to edit the file. The body of text was Times New Roman. When we opened the file in Illustrator, all the text appeared as gibberish. I had print set up in Word to download TT fonts as Softfonts, which is how we have been successfully doing these files. To get it to work this time, I had to set it to "Substitute with device fonts". I was wondering if this had to do with the OpenType fonts? When we first installed NT 2000, TT fonts would not be recognized in ATM Deluxe (actually, the font name was displayed, but trying to preview the font displayed an empty window) and the fonts would not load into applications, until we installed Office 2000. When you refer to smarter drivers, would using Adobe PS5.1 be of use? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 17:20:52-GMT,3132;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17541 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:20:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32065; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:14:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:13:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31898; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:13:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37C55574.CCE1582F@vdiprinting.com> References: <199908261323.GAA24758@aladdin.com> <001d01beefc7$c2d19cc0$2367c6d0@millennia> <37C55574.CCE1582F@vdiprinting.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:57:29 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA31872 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9:55 AM -0500 8/26/99, Matthew L. Kelly wrote: >Can anyone explain how OpenType is going to fit into this issue of >Microsoft TT and Adobe Type 1. I believe the HOPE is that OpenType resolves all these issues. It is a completely open format (none of the patent or hidden secret issues of the other two) and offers better font features (hinting, etc.) and also international support. >What you get is dependent on having ATM, as I understand. At this moment, even that's not true, since I believe that OpenType support was pulled at the last minute from ATM 4.5, though I am willing to be corrected on this one. However, you will find that both Apple and Microsoft have committed to adding native support for OpenType in their respective OS's. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 17:36:38-GMT,2579;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18053 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:36:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32285; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:15:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:14:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32092; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:14:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:47:16 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: [PDF] RE: Follow-up: Font / tab drift Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA32088 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9:20 PM -0400 8/25/99, Murray McCombs wrote: > >>>> >Are you using ATM on the Mac? What version? Whose fonts >are they (what foundry)? ><<<< > >ATM v3.8.2 >FONTS: Adobe Postscript fonts (no other foundry mentioned, (ie Master >Fonts, Burthold, etc) That's a pretty old version, and wonder if it may be related. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 17:47:35-GMT,2044;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18396 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:47:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02404; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:42:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:40:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02142; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:40:57 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826134417.00880100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:44:17 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > How come >Adobe Type Manager's anti-aliasing isn't better? > It is, but only under Win95. That feature isn't there in the NT version, unfortunately. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 17:52:58-GMT,5343;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18627 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02345; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:41:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:40:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02093; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:40:16 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990826103520.00c01ba0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:39:46 -0700 To: "Matthew L. Kelly" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <37C57567.9F9C0D7F@vdiprinting.com> References: <003301beefdc$a6817c60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 8/26/99 10:12 AM , Matthew L. Kelly wrote: >Aandi Inston wrote: > > > > Can anyone explain how OpenType is going to fit into this > > > issue of Microsoft TT > > > and Adobe Type 1. From my reading of information on this at > > > Microsoft's site, > > > I quote, "An OpenType font can have Type 1 data only, > > > TrueType data only, or > > > both." What you get is dependent on having ATM, as I > > > understand. Is this > > > going to muddy the waters for Acrobat font rendering > > > concerning Type 1 and > > > TrueType or improve the situation? > > > > Well, like it says, an OpenType font can include bits of > > either kind of font. > > > > Apparently Windows 2000 can read OpenType fonts as native, > > and show either without benefit of ATM. > > > > But...well, what are the problems we are discussing? I > > think the list may have again lost track of the specific > > issues. I can think of some: > > > > 1. TrueType fonts are often turned to PostScript fonts > > which look less good than the original hinted TrueType fonts. > > This may be resolved by smarter PostScript drivers that > > use type 42 fonts - which are really the TrueType fonts > > without a loss of quality. > > > > 2. TrueType fonts turned to PostScript may not be searchable. > > This may be resolved by smarter drivers too. > > > > 3. Some TrueType fonts are not embeddable. This doesn't > > seem to be a bug, but a licensing restriction some find > > unwelcome. > > > > Anyway, how about some focus on what the situation is that > > needs to be improved...? > > > >Thank you for addressing my questions. Please don't consider them as being >academic, because they concern issues directly involved in our workflow. > >We currently have Acrobat 4 running on Windows 2000 NT. We received a Word >document form a customer that had set up some bold type filled with an RGB red >that they wanted to print as a specific PMS pro-match. What we usually do is >convert the file to a PDF, embedding the fonts, then open it in Illustrator on >the Mac to edit the file. The body of text was Times New Roman. When we >opened the file in Illustrator, all the text appeared as gibberish. I had >print set up in Word to download TT fonts as Softfonts, which is how we have >been successfully doing these files. > >To get it to work this time, I had to set it to "Substitute with device >fonts". I was wondering if this had to do with the OpenType fonts? > >When we first installed NT 2000, TT fonts would not be recognized in ATM >Deluxe (actually, the font name was displayed, but trying to preview the font >displayed an empty window) and the fonts would not load into applications, >until we installed Office 2000. > >When you refer to smarter drivers, would using Adobe PS5.1 be of use? Also, the currently released version of ATM should not be used with Windows 2000. Windows 2000 has integrated, built-in enumeration and rasterizing services for Type 1, TrueType, and OpenType fonts. A future version of ATM for Windows 2000 will be primarily a font manager. The AdobePS 5.x drivers explicitly will not install and not work with Windows 2000. Windows 2000 comes with a PostScript driver developed jointly by Adobe and Microsoft. (The AdobePS 5.x drivers were actually derived from what is going to be the Windows 2000 PostScript driver.) All features of AdobePS 5.1+ will be in this new "standard" Windows 2000 PostScript driver. - Dov _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 17:53:21-GMT,2797;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18645 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:53:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03083; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:48:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:46:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02910; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:46:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826135025.008816f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:50:25 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed In-Reply-To: <001901beefd3$2ec2aa40$cc67c6d0@millennia> References: <199908261436.HAA24950@aladdin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >The built in fonts are Arial MT and Times New Roman MT. These are Adobe PS >fonts. That'd be Times New Roman PS MT (yeah, I know, seems nitpickypedantic, but given the growing level of confusion, it seems like it'd be best to be completely explicit about this) > >> - If a PDF file calls for Helvetica or Times Roman as a built-in >> font (that is, not embedded and without a descriptor), in what order >> does Acrobat 4 prefer: its own built-in fonts; a possible platform >> font with the same name; a possible platform Arial or Times New >> Roman font? > >Acrobat will open the document and view it with Arial and Times New Roman. More nits: Arial & Times New Roman (ie, the Windows TT fonts) or Arial MT and Times New Roman PS MT (from Acrobat's private stash)? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 17:58:31-GMT,3870;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18811 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:58:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03619; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:52:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:51:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03416; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:51:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:51:29 +0100 Message-ID: <003701beefeb$a0792700$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37C57567.9F9C0D7F@vdiprinting.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We currently have Acrobat 4 running on Windows 2000 NT. We > received a Word > document form a customer that had set up some bold type > filled with an RGB red > that they wanted to print as a specific PMS pro-match. What > we usually do is > convert the file to a PDF, embedding the fonts, then open it > in Illustrator on > the Mac to edit the file. The body of text was Times New > Roman. When we > opened the file in Illustrator, all the text appeared as > gibberish. I had > print set up in Word to download TT fonts as Softfonts, which > is how we have > been successfully doing these files. > > To get it to work this time, I had to set it to "Substitute > with device > fonts". I was wondering if this had to do with the OpenType fonts? Interesting question. What happens to fonts on their way into a PDF is probably 10% font, 70% PostScript driver and 20% Distiller. I haven't investigated what the Windows 2000 printer driver does, but it is likely to try and use PostScript 3 font technology if it can, passing the font directly to Distiller as OpenType. However, for level 1 or level 2 output, it is going to have to decompose the fonts back to type 1 or TrueType, and may well proceed much as before. With Acrobat 4.0 set with "use local fonts" switched off, pretty much the only thing that matters is what got embedded, not the set up of your machine. > > When we first installed NT 2000, TT fonts would not be > recognized in ATM > Deluxe (actually, the font name was displayed, but trying to > preview the font > displayed an empty window) and the fonts would not load into > applications, > until we installed Office 2000. > > When you refer to smarter drivers, would using Adobe PS5.1 be of use? Not in NT 2000. It will not install, by design. AdobePS 5 is basically the NT 2000 driver, retrofitted onto NT 4. There is no sign yet that Adobe will produce an AdobePS for NT 2000, nor any reason why they should at this stage. In the end I suspect they may, simply because Microsoft have a very laid back approach to fixing bugs in the system driver. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 18:09:14-GMT,3104;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19078 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:09:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04926; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:04:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:03:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04792; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:03:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826140656.008ca570@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:06:56 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Follow-up: Font / tab drift In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Thanks for exploring the code. > Well, summarizing what I've seen in other PS in very simple form. >So it now looks as if the Postscript drivers are somehow missing the >instruction in the code and not compiling correctly. The PS drivers, as I understand it, should not be *getting* any tab code. That's really the point here. They should be getting instructions from the app like "Here's some text. Put it at such-and-such a location on the page". It sounds as though the problem may be at the app level or further back in the system. I used to run into something very similar-seeming on the Mac. Everything would be just peachy on screen, but the word spacing would turn ugly, overlaps and all, on PS output. In that case, the problem was corrupt screen fonts. Once I replaced them, the problem disappeared. > >How do I view the code of the resulting PS?? Can I view using BBedit or >another text editor?? Would RESedit be an appropriate program? >Thoughts welcome! > Not ResEdit, but any text editor should do. BBedit's supposed to be one of the best, from what I hear. I'd start with a very simple version of your real document so it's simpler to find the stuff you're looking for w/o having to plow through reams of PS. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 18:09:39-GMT,2525;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19102 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:09:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04944; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:04:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:03:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04765; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:03:19 -0500 Message-ID: <004d01beefed$f1f7f780$a567c6d0@millennia> From: "Rich Sprague" To: References: <199908261436.HAA24950@aladdin.com> <3.0.5.32.19990826135025.008816f0@pop.iglou.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:08:04 -0700 Organization: RSA Business Solutions LLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Acrobat will open the document and view it with Arial and Times New Roman. > > More nits: Arial & Times New Roman (ie, the Windows TT fonts) or Arial MT > and Times New Roman PS MT (from Acrobat's private stash)? The private stash, Steve, unless you have used Adobe's little trick and replaced Arial MT and Times New Roman PS MT (that's a darn mouthful) in the Acrobat > Resource > Fonts folder with Helvetica and Times Roman. If you have done that, then it will look to the system for the required fonts which would be TT versions, unless you have PS versions there. Rich _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 18:24:07-GMT,2645;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19499 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:23:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06274; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:16:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:13:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06033; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:13:57 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990826110959.00bac100@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:13:31 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed In-Reply-To: <003701beefeb$a0792700$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <37C57567.9F9C0D7F@vdiprinting.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 8/26/99 10:51 AM , Aandi Inston wrote: >Interesting question. What happens to fonts on their way into >a PDF is probably 10% font, 70% PostScript driver and 20% >Distiller. > >I haven't investigated what the Windows 2000 printer driver >does, but it is likely to try and use PostScript 3 font >technology if it can, passing the font directly to Distiller >as OpenType. However, for level 1 or level 2 output, it >is going to have to decompose the fonts back to type 1 >or TrueType, and may well proceed much as before. There are no special font handling features of Adobe PostScript 3 that can be used by the driver to provide native OpenType support. The underlying fonts within an OpenType "wrapper" are extracted and put into the appropriate Type 1 or Type 42 font. - Dov _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 18:31:54-GMT,3907;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19700 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:31:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07419; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:27:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:26:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07307; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:26:19 -0500 From: Jennifer Greene Message-Id: <199908261826.OAA14311@louis.dfci.harvard.edu> Subject: [PDF] Font problems with Century Gothic To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:26:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello everyone. This is my first posting- sorry to jump right in with a problem, but I was hoping you could help with a font problem that I have been grappling with. I have done a lot of reading of the list archives and Adobe's documents, and experimenting, but am still stumped. What I am trying to do is embed the TrueType font Century Gothic in an Acrobat file. I am using Windows 98. The original document is in Quark Xpress 4.0, and- using the plugin filter to Quark- conversion is being done using Acrobat Distiller 3.02. Originally Acrobat kept on insisting on substituting another font for Century Gothic (I think it was Avant Garde, but it may have been Helvetica). In an attempt to stop this substitution, I renamed the Acrobat3\Distiller\Data\distabd.dos file to disable the sustituting as suggested by Adobe. Now when I distill the file Acrobat uses Courier for all of the Century Gothic text and gives me the log file errors: "AvantGarde-Demi not found, using Courier. AvantGarde-Book not found, using Courier". I almost expected this since it does confirm that Distiller is trying to substitute for the font. I cannot figure out how to force it to embed Century Gothic. The font should be available- Quark has no problem finding it; I have added c:\windows\fonts to Distiller's Font Location list (it already had c:\acrobat3\distillr\fonts) (although no fonts show up in the list below it if I click on c:\windows\fonts in Job Options -> Font Embedding - is something wrong here?). I also checked that Century Gothic is an embeddable font- it is. Distiller has "Embed all fonts" checked, and "Subset fonts below 35%" is set and checked. I even tried removing the line: Century Gothic=AvantGarde from the [Pscript TrueType Substitutions] section of my win.ini. I don't really understand why this is such a complex problem- my understanding is that Century Gothic is a pretty standard font which is being shipped with Win98. Any ideas, hints, requests for more information, or solutions would be greatly appreciated. Note- I did try the PDFWriter, and the font embeds okay, however font squishing does occur, which I believe means I should be using Distiller instead- right? Thank you, Jennifer --- Jennifer Greene Eastern Cooperative Oncology Group greene.jennifer@jimmy.harvard.edu _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 18:57:56-GMT,4786;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20399 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:57:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09925; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:50:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:49:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09776; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:49:07 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990826111443.00bade10@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:48:14 -0700 To: Steve Rindsberg From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Follow-up: Font / tab drift Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990826140656.008ca570@pop.iglou.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 8/26/99 11:06 AM , Steve Rindsberg wrote: > >So it now looks as if the Postscript drivers are somehow missing the > >instruction in the code and not compiling correctly. > >The PS drivers, as I understand it, should not be *getting* any tab code. >That's really the point here. They should be getting instructions from the >app like "Here's some text. Put it at such-and-such a location on the page". > >It sounds as though the problem may be at the app level or further back in >the system. I used to run into something very similar-seeming on the Mac. >Everything would be just peachy on screen, but the word spacing would turn >ugly, overlaps and all, on PS output. In that case, the problem was >corrupt screen fonts. Once I replaced them, the problem disappeared. Not to nit-pick too much, but Illustrator (the application about which this whole thread started) generates virtually ALL of its own PostScript, except for the device-dependent "setpagedevice" commands. I think I do know the cause of the problem. It is likely a side-effect of Illustrator's overloading "special" characters combined with what is really a "non-standard" font. Suppose I have an Illustrator file in which I have a text string: ABCD where is a logical tab keyed by the user. This generates the following in the resultant .AI file, .EPS file as well as in the PostScript file for printing. 0 Tc 0 Tw (A\011) Tx 1 0 Tk 72 0 Td (B\011) Tx 1 0 Tk 72 0 Td (C\011) Tx 1 0 Tk 72 0 Td (D) Tx 1 0 Tk (\r) TX What is interesting is the fact that Illustrator puts "\011" in the same text strings as the characters to be printed. "\011" is octal for decimal 9, the character. With most fonts, this is not a problem, because the character at that position for standard encoded fonts is totally unoccupied and the "not defined" character for most Type 1 fonts is a null character with no width. HOWEVER, if you have a font that has a definition for the 9th character or a non-null "notdef" character, then you may see a strange character or extra advance spacing output either on paper (via PostScript printer) or in the PDF file as a result of distillation. A similar problem may show up if you have a "soft return" in Illustrator (i.e., a new line in a paragraph of text in an Illustrator document). In that case, the "soft return" shows up as a "\003" in the text string. Again, most fonts don't have this character defined. If they do or if the "notdef" character is not null, you may have some strange spacing and/or printing anomalies. This is neither a driver, RIP, printer, or PDF problem. It is a symptom of a "non-standard" (but not faulty) font aggravating what is now a known problem with Illustrator output. The Adobe Illustrator team is now aware of this problem and will hopefully address it in a future release. - Dov _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 19:44:26-GMT,2321;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21698 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:44:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15278; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:37:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:35:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15048; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:35:18 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:35:11 +0100 Message-ID: <003901beeffa$1ceb55c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990826103520.00c01ba0@mail-303> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The AdobePS 5.x drivers explicitly will not install and not work > with Windows 2000. Windows 2000 comes with a PostScript > driver developed > jointly by Adobe and Microsoft. (The AdobePS 5.x drivers were actually > derived from what is going to be the Windows 2000 PostScript driver.) > All features of AdobePS 5.1+ will be in this new "standard" > Windows 2000 > PostScript driver. Does this mean that there will be no support for PostScript level 1 printing in NT 2000? I think it's an important point that needs an answer... Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 19:44:35-GMT,2177;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21707 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:44:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15293; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:37:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:36:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15144; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:36:48 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990826142150.00a2ac60@gomez.msfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: michael@gomez.msfc.nasa.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:26:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Michael Wright Subject: [PDF] Needs some help with acrobat under UNIX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I have a program that creates a postscript file that I distill using Acrobat 3 under Solaris 2.6. The distilled page is displayed in portrait format. I have run through all the setpage and DSC comment options. The page is in portrait until I use Exchange to rotate the page into landscape. This is an operation we will have to perform a lot and I would like to automate the rotation using Exchange or another tool. Can anyone provide pointers or information on how to do this or what tools to use? Thanks, Michael _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 19:47:14-GMT,3975;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21816 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:47:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15538; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:39:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:38:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15382; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:38:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Font problems with Century Gothic Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:38:44 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01beeffa$9c347aa0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908261826.OAA14311@louis.dfci.harvard.edu> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > What I am trying to do is embed the TrueType font Century Gothic in an > Acrobat file. I am using Windows 98. The original document is in > Quark Xpress 4.0, and- using the plugin filter to Quark- conversion is > being done using Acrobat Distiller 3.02. > > Originally Acrobat kept on insisting on substituting another font for > Century Gothic (I think it was Avant Garde, but it may have been > Helvetica). In an attempt to stop this substitution, I renamed the > Acrobat3\Distiller\Data\distabd.dos file to disable the sustituting as > suggested by Adobe. Now when I distill the file Acrobat uses Courier > for all of the Century Gothic text and gives me the log file errors: > "AvantGarde-Demi not found, using Courier. AvantGarde-Book not found, > using Courier". I almost expected this since it does confirm that > Distiller is trying to substitute for the font. I suspect that you are trying to Distill an EPS file. DON'T! They don't include fonts, so this happens. Print to file, using the Distiller PPD, distill the result. > > I cannot figure out how to force it to embed Century Gothic. The font > should be available- Quark has no problem finding it; I have added > c:\windows\fonts to Distiller's Font Location list (it already had > c:\acrobat3\distillr\fonts) (although no fonts show up in the list > below it if I click on c:\windows\fonts in Job Options -> Font > Embedding - is something wrong here?). I also checked that Century > Gothic is an embeddable font- it is. Distiller has "Embed all fonts" > checked, and "Subset fonts below 35%" is set and checked. Distiller can only locate and embed PostScript fonts, and there aren't any of them in c:\windows\fonts. That's why you must ensure that TrueType fonts are embedded in the PostScript file created by XPress. > > I even tried removing the line: > Century Gothic=AvantGarde > from the [Pscript TrueType Substitutions] section of my win.ini. Not involved in the process. > > Note- I did try the PDFWriter, and the font embeds okay, however > font squishing does occur, which I believe means I should be > using Distiller instead- right? Yes. PDFWriter is utterly unsuitable for XPress. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 20:32:53-GMT,2782;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23228 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21143; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:26:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:25:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20980; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:25:05 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990826132106.00ba3d40@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:24:03 -0700 To: "Aandi Inston" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed Cc: In-Reply-To: <003901beeffa$1ceb55c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <4.2.0.58.19990826103520.00c01ba0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 8/26/99 12:35 PM , Aandi Inston wrote: > > The AdobePS 5.x drivers explicitly will not install and not work > > with Windows 2000. Windows 2000 comes with a PostScript > > driver developed > > jointly by Adobe and Microsoft. (The AdobePS 5.x drivers were actually > > derived from what is going to be the Windows 2000 PostScript driver.) > > All features of AdobePS 5.1+ will be in this new "standard" > > Windows 2000 > > PostScript driver. > >Does this mean that there will be no support for PostScript >level 1 printing in NT 2000? I think it's an important point that >needs an answer... > >Aandi The definitive answer is that the Windows 2000 PostScript driver DOES support PostScript Level 1. All testing of that capability has been done by Microsoft, though. - Dov Disclaimer: Your mileage may vary; don't try this at home! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 20:46:00-GMT,2465;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23495 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:39:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21967; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:34:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:32:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21807; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:32:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199908262032.QAA02495@smtp5.mindspring.com> Subject: [PDF] what often appear to be bugs are more often wannabe iffy technology Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:45:49 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PAUL DAY asked; <--snip--> >It turns out that the file still looks fine on screen, but when output >to a non-postscript printer errors occur. I suggested printing a page at >a time (in case it was a memory problem) and this helps in some cases, >but not others. > >How can I resolve this? use an Adobe licenced PostScript printer. wrong result, wrong technology i always say. sorry, not trying to be blunt, honestly - but high end prepress pros that eliminate non-postsript printers (and TrueType as well) from the workflow do not get "suprised or disappointed" nearly as often as thoes who do. and "right on" Aandi - it is easier to whine than define. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa corporation 200 Balardvale Street MS 200-4-5H WIlmington, MA 01887-1069 978.658.0200 press 1 then 5504 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 21:05:55-GMT,2300;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24210 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:05:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24449; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:59:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:57:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24236; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:57:15 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826170031.008b6ae0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:00:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed In-Reply-To: <004d01beefed$f1f7f780$a567c6d0@millennia> References: <199908261436.HAA24950@aladdin.com> <3.0.5.32.19990826135025.008816f0@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The private stash, Steve, unless you have used Adobe's little trick and >replaced Arial MT and Times New Roman PS MT (that's a darn mouthful) TNRPSMT instead? Thanks for the clarification, and more so for the tip, Rich. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 21:10:38-GMT,2371;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24340 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:10:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25277; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:06:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:04:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25109; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:04:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826170810.008bd220@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:08:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Font problems with Century Gothic In-Reply-To: <199908261826.OAA14311@louis.dfci.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Originally Acrobat kept on insisting on substituting another font for >Century Gothic Back up a bit. *Something* is doing the substitution, but it's probably not Acrobat. Check your printer driver settings first. Rightclick the printer driver, choose Properties and truck on over to the Fonts tab. Click Edit Table, locate Century Gothic and I'll bet you'll see that it's set to use the printer's Avant Garde font. Change that to Send As Outlines instead. I suspect that'll sort it out nicely. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 22:22:57-GMT,2350;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26436 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:22:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27365; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:26:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:25:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27272; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:25:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826172843.0091e490@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:28:43 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType issues addressed In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990826132106.00ba3d40@mail-303> References: <003901beeffa$1ceb55c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <4.2.0.58.19990826103520.00c01ba0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The definitive answer is that the Windows 2000 PostScript driver DOES >support PostScript Level 1. All testing of that capability has been >done by Microsoft, though. > > - Dov > >Disclaimer: Your mileage may vary; don't try this at home! Still looking for someone that'd know the difference between PS, GOOD PS and Windows Metafiles when it bites them on the butt, are they? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 26-Aug-1999 23:41:58-GMT,2142;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28631 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:41:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06155; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:35:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:33:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05970; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:33:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3B7A747C3D2AD311B0F00008C7917174073211@seboz005.eur.gep.ge.com> From: "Pas, Marco (GEP)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Automation question? Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 05:44:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am looking for several weeks now and i can not get a good answer/solution? Problem: I have a large number of HTML files that need to be converted to PDF. These files will contains HTML4.0 markups such as table backgrounds, and pictures !!! On a regular basis all or a single HTML file will have to be converted to PDF. I want to do this in a batch job so that I can start it with different parameters and at any time. Acrobat 4.0 does a great job in converting my HTML documents, but it will not run i a batch process ??? Or even with command-line parameters ??? Any suggestions, Kind Regards, Marco Pas _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 0:56:51-GMT,4905;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00263 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:56:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12854; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:51:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:49:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12650; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:49:17 -0500 Message-ID: <419AC4196F97D11187C600805FF590A60105566C@xch-knt-17.ds.boeing.com> From: "Meyerding, Henry W" To: "'Jason Belec'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Odd behavior Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:49:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Environment 1: Windows 95 Netscape 4.05 Acrobat Reader 3.0 Navigate through web documents to link to pdf. pdf opens and runs normally. Click on web link to another intranet html document Web Site opens. There is no link back to the pdf document, naturally... a) Click back arrow - takes you to the html page from which pdf was launched. b) Click 'x' in navigator - closes browser, Acrobat reader is open at correct page If b), click anything - error message displays: "There was an error while performing an action. Invalid file specification object." Click "OK" and the following message displays: "This file contains information not understood by the viewer. Suppress further errors?" Click "Yes" and no links work in acrobat document Click "no" and click on web link the following message displays: "Acrobat could not run the web browser. Unknown error (2)." Environment 2: Windows NT > Netscape 4.5 > Acrobat Reader 3.0 > Similar Behavior but slightly different error messages. In both the foregoing environments, the Acrobat Reader opened outside of the browser. I downloaded the Acrobat Reader 4.0 on Environment 2 and installed it. This fixed the problem on that computer, but I still wonder why it was broken with the old implementation. Out of six computer, three worked flawlessly, and three were broken to a greater or lesser extent. Please advise... will I need to tell everyone to install Acrobat Reader 4.0 before reading these files? Thanks Henry Meyerding > ---------- > From: Jason Belec[SMTP:pdfworkflows@home.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 4:59 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: henry.w.meyerding@boeing.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] behavior of web links > > Henry, how about letting us know where the file is, maybe having it do the > nasty deed, will help. I have several PCs in the office, and Macs, and have > not encountered your problem as of yet, and most of my clients use Windows > 95 and 98. > > Jason Belec :)~ > pdfworkflows@home.com > > ---------- > >From: "Meyerding, Henry W" > >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" > >Subject: [PDF] behavior of web links > >Date: Wed, Aug 25, 1999, 5:06 PM > > > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > I have some linked pdfs for a data map. I have links on some pages to web > > pages on our intranet. I made these using Acrobat 4.0, but most everyone > > reads them with the Acrobat 3.0 plug-in to Netscape. Problem: open > > xyz.pdf and drill down to page with external link. Link works fine. Close > > browser window that opened with external link, follow links to another web > > link. Click on it and error message occurs. > > > > This happens on Windows 95 and not on Windows NT. > > > > Anyone experienced anything like this? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Henry > > > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > > <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> > > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 2:27:43-GMT,6279;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02240 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:27:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20233; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:21:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:17:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19949; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:17:37 -0500 Message-ID: <37C5F4E0.2012A9AD@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:16:00 -0500 From: Dean McCallum X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. References: <000201beef2d$319b9840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Mr. Inston: Over the last half year or so I have developed the highest regard for your Acrobat acumen, your sagacious PDF troubleshooting, and your deft analysis of the myriad of problems we lesser talented people have had with Acrobat 3.01. You have always seemed to be on-target and right. I feel like I'm questioning the authority of Moses on the validity of the Ten Commandments when I make the following comments. Aandi Inston wrote: > > Honestly. All I've seen so far is claims that files > display wrong - specifically one of Adobe's developer > documents. I don't see this on my systems here. > Honestly Mr. Inston, do you think the average Acrobat end user has your setup? I am certain your are right that there is no major problem with Acrobat 4 for those who develop files for high-end service bureaus and press operations. Professionals can afford Postscript-capable printers and/or top-grade equipment. In the U.S. our IRS posts virtually all of our tax forms in PDF on the Internet for anyone to down load and use. If the IRS responded to a taxpayer's complaint that "the forms won't print right this year" with comment like "go buy a PostScript printer," the politicians in Washington would be screaming for IRS blood. Considering how the IRS can confuse most things, I can't see them doing any better explaining how to set up a myriad of printers, computers, and operating systems to print the files as a graphic/bitmap etc. format. KISS (keep it simple, stupid) was a virtue of the older Acrobat 3.01 Reader for users of the IRS web site.. > 1. It stirs up panic, by suggesting Acrobat is fundamentally > broken. Since I haven't been able to reproduce this > problem, I think this is more in the area of "obscure > bug" than "utterly broken". Simply saying Acrobat is > broken is especially unhelpful for people already > committed to it; and may also put people off who could > really benefit from its use. I, for one, am "committed" to PDF and convinced my organization to use Acrobat 3.01 PDF for distributing all our training manuals and courses on CD's and on the Internet. We probably have spent over $250,000 US dollars just in contractor-converted Acrobat 3 PDF files. Yes, Acrobat 4.0 isn't broken. What may be "broken" is the trust I and many others had in Acrobat to output a file onto any printer, any where, with virtually no errors. My organization's customers aren't service bureaus or sophisticated digital print shops. They are "average Joes and Janes" with so many different Computer-printer configurations that the Acrobat 4 Reader cannot be considered reliable to print the products without a myriad of warnings, caveats, and lengthy instructions. I suspect that many others who have been "whining" about Acrobat 4 might have similar problems. I have heard more than one of your fellow gurus (e.g. Rich Sprague) wonder aloud why Adobe abandoned Helvetica and Times Postscript fonts. If anyone can explain that omission, it would have to be you. > So...please, someone, post step by step instructions for > reproducing this problem. Preferably using a pre-existing > publicly available PDF document that a number of different > people can look at. And, if you have evidence that it is > caused by the use of different screen fonts, please post > that too. > Mr. Inston, the issue for me is not whether an Acrobat 3.01 PDF file is really okay when viewed on a Acrobat 4 Reader and only an end user printer/screen font problem. The issue is that my customers will lose confidence in the accuracy and quality of our products and maybe look elsewhere. Organizations like mine can't ante up another $250,000 to have every file "redistilled" every time Adobe upgrades Acrobat versions. By the volume of similar comments and concerns expressed in this and other newsgroups, I seem to be not alone in this concern. My concerns are not addressed by an "academic replication of the errors drill." (Though I don't discount the value of it.) This is a dollars-and-cents and credibility issue for those of us who provide PDF to customers. Adobe made a conscious decision regarding the changing of it base fonts. They can also make a conscious decision to fix it. For a lesser world, that could solve a lot of problems. Tremulously awaiting the wrath of God, Dean McCallum > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 2:44:50-GMT,1974;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02550 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:44:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21663; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:39:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:36:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21437; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:36:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37C5F4E0.2012A9AD@bellsouth.net> References: <000201beef2d$319b9840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <37C5F4E0.2012A9AD@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:40:49 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Mr. Inston: > > I feel like I'm questioning the authority of Moses on the validity of the Ten Commandments That *may* be a bit extreme, although I did hear a rumor that Aandi/Moses once asked God if he had a PDF version of the then only stone-inscribed '10 Commandments.' rgds ~ Kurt _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 3:15:33-GMT,2772;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03213 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:15:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24192; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:09:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:06:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24002; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:06:48 -0500 X-Sender: mmccombs@interlog.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:13:06 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: [PDF] RE: Font/Tab drift and PS code Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ 1) Dov Isaacs Thanks for pointing the way on the PS code (011). I found the PS code indicating the drift quite easily with BBEdit. The code below is indicative on one line of Schedule's tabular drift (copied directly from BBEdit). -233.1768 -8.175 Td (\011) Tx 16.5297 0 Td (- \011) Tx 6.9214 0 Td ( \011) Tx 17.6248 0 Td (- \011) Tx 6.9214 0 Td ( \011) Tx 10.4716 0 Td (10:25\011) Tx 14.0747 0 Td ( \011) Tx 9.4042 0 Td (10:26\011) Tx <<<<<<<<<< tab is set, but line below (10:30\011) Tx overlaps -72.5714 0 Td << (\011) Tx << 72.5714 0 Td << 5 lines of code instead of three as others ( \011) Tx << 10.4716 0 Td << (10:30\011) Tx <<<<<<<<< <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 3:36:11-GMT,3831;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03715 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:36:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25851; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:29:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:26:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25605; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:26:22 -0500 Message-ID: <004201bef03c$457ee280$9b26fcd1@oemcomputer> From: "Will Freeman" To: Subject: [PDF] variable links Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:28:45 -0400 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01BEF01A.BD717D60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BEF01A.BD717D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm looking for a way to embed a variable kink in to a PDF document. The = reason for this is I have a basic document that is used as a "Core" = manual. Along with the core manual are two different specific documents = that will need to be hyperlinked to in order for the reader to access = the specific information required. The information in the core manual is = identical for both specific manuals.=20 Does anyone know of a way to make a variable link that can be set in = Acrobat 4.0 that will allow the viewer to select which specific document = to go too? Any help in with this problem will be appreciated. Will ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BEF01A.BD717D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm looking for a way to embed a variable kink in to = a PDF=20 document. The reason for this is I have a basic document that is used as = a=20 "Core" manual. Along with the core manual are two different specific = documents=20 that will need to be hyperlinked to in order for the reader to access = the=20 specific information required. The information in the core manual is = identical=20 for both specific manuals.
 
 Does anyone know of a way to make a variable = link that=20 can be set in Acrobat 4.0 that will allow the viewer to select which = specific=20 document to go too?
 
 Any help in with this problem will be=20 appreciated.
 
 Will
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BEF01A.BD717D60-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 8:15:37-GMT,2120;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09323 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:15:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA11057; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:09:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:06:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA10872; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:06:51 -0500 Message-ID: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F781B55A2@sungard-finance.fr> From: URIA Emmanuel To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PS & PCL printing Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:07:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello everybody, When I print a file from Acrobat Reader 4.0 using the LucidaSansType fonts (type 1 font I bought for my application), there is a difference between the printing with PCL and PS. In fact, PCL printing is the same that what I see on my screen, but the PS printing is wider than PCL. Do my Fontdescriptor or/and Widths objects have an influence to the printing ??? Regards -- Emmanuel URIA Sungard Finance SAS 173, Bureaux de la colline Batiment E 92213 Saint Cloud Cedex FRANCE Phone : +33 (1) 49 11 31 46 Fax : +33 (1) 49 11 31 99 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 9:00:25-GMT,2542;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10113 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:00:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA14109; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:56:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:55:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14042; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:55:33 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567DA.003624BA.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:54:30 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] Font problems with Century Gothic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Jennifer, I don't know wich PS driver you are using, but you may check in the printer driver settings -> fonts -> font substitution table if century gothic is mapped to avantgarde (as it was in you win.ini). Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== Originally Acrobat kept on insisting on substituting another font for Century Gothic (I think it was Avant Garde, but it may have been Helvetica). I even tried removing the line: Century Gothic=AvantGarde from the [Pscript TrueType Substitutions] section of my win.ini. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 9:09:19-GMT,2982;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10307 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:09:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14387; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:00:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:59:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14289; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:59:27 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567DA.00369815.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:58:18 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] variable links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Will, Sorry, what do you mean by a "variable link"? PDF-Links or embedded documents? Relative or absolute links? Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== "Will Freeman" 27.08.99 04:28 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] variable links I'm looking for a way to embed a variable kink in to a PDF document. The reason for this is I have a basic document that is used as a "Core" manual. Along with the core manual are two different specific documents that will need to be hyperlinked to in order for the reader to access the specific information required. The information in the core manual is identical for both specific manuals. Does anyone know of a way to make a variable link that can be set in Acrobat 4.0 that will allow the viewer to select which specific document to go too? Any help in with this problem will be appreciated. Will _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 10:38:42-GMT,3862;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11924 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:38:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20334; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:33:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:30:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20019; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:30:31 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:30:29 +0100 Message-ID: <004601bef077$30010420$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37C5F4E0.2012A9AD@bellsouth.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > concern. My concerns are not addressed by an "academic > replication of the > errors drill." (Though I don't discount the value of it.) This is a > dollars-and-cents and credibility issue for those of us who > provide PDF to > customers. Adobe made a conscious decision regarding the > changing of it base > fonts. They can also make a conscious decision to fix it. > For a lesser world, > that could solve a lot of problems. But, this is exactly my point. Well, several of them. You are stating that Adobe made a decision to change the base fonts (or rather the fonts used to display them). This is true. You are further stating that this causes problems. And it is evidence of this that I am asking for. I have not seen one single definite problem that is unambigiously attributed to this change, and nothing else. Do you want Adobe to rush out a release changing the fonts back because everyone says that is the cause, then find nothing is fixed? I have seen reports of problems printing from Acrobat 4.0, as I have seen problems reported from every release of Acrobat and every other significant program that tries to print anything beyond lines of Courier. Printer drivers are buggy. This is a fact of life that application writers cannot change. Take a look at the readme files for printer drivers, and you will find lots of things along the line of "if it doesn't print with this setting, try that setting...no one setting will always work". HP provide a pair of PCL drivers, for much the same reason. This is an unpleasant fact of life, never sufficiently explained to people. YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE PROBLEMS PRINTING at least some of the time. Who'd buy a computer or a printer if it said that on the box. Now, you may want to say "it must work. Make it work". And that isn't an unreasonable opinion, either. But you'd better pray someone else takes the time to analyse the problems they are having. I'm sure Adobe are trying to reproduce the problems described here, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were as mystified as I am. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 11:42:34-GMT,3141;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA13062 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:42:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24788; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:38:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:37:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24684; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:37:09 -0500 Message-ID: <001101bef080$d1a9d140$35089cd1@oemcomputer> From: "Will Freeman" To: References: <412567DA.00369815.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] variable links Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:39:25 -0400 Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Laura By variable link I mean if I highlight a word in the CORE manual, say text that refers the reader to chapter 6 of the specific manual, I need to be able to have that link go to either of the specific manuals. I was hoping for some type of a pull down option to appear. To better illustrate the problem lets say I write maintenance manuals for car maker X, They have a standard frame and engine for 2 different styles of their cars. All of the maintenance procedures for the engine and the frame would be the same, this information would stay in the CORE manual. When the troubleshooting procedures get to an area that is specific to the style of car the core manual would provide a hyperlink to the appropriate data in the specific style maintenance manual. Both Specific maintenance manuals are set up in the same way but the information is the same. IN the core manual the link for more detailed style specific trouble shooting would say see chapter 6 of the style specific manual. This is where I need Exchange to be able to provide a means for the link to go to one of two different manuals depending on the type of car being worked on. These will be PDF links. The manuals were created using Interleaf. The links will also have to be relative as the documentation will be delivered on CD-ROM for use on a lap top. Thanks for your interest. Will _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 11:52:24-GMT,3034;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA13211 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:52:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25502; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:47:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:46:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25397; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:46:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199908271147.HAA28070@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:41:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ no one, thats the point. we shouldnt have to pay for products that arent ready for market. And we shouldnt have to pay for the fixes. a toaster breaks, return it, our car breaks under warranty, it will be fixed, spend $400 on software, well, try it out, let us know what works and doesnt work, we'l attempt to fix it, but in the process introduce new problems, and oh yeah, pay for the fix. I can buy the argument that you must pay to drive technology, especially early versions, but 6,7, 8.o releases? Greed my man, nothing but greed. Its a great setup, I'm just jealous I'm not a developer. Instead I have to work with their products in the real world and after 10 years of listening to promise after promise, PDF and Acrobat are pretty much where they were 6 or 7 years ago. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Will Mitchell Reply to: mailto:Will@OffsetHouse.com The Offset House- http://www.OffsetHouse.com 89 Sand Hill Rd | PO Box 8929 | Essex VT 05451 ph 802-878-4440 | fx 802-879-4865 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------- >From: "Aandi Inston" >To: >Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. >Date: Fri, Aug 27, 1999, 6:30 AM > > YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE PROBLEMS PRINTING > at least some of the time. Who'd buy a computer or a printer > if it said that on the box. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 12:14:52-GMT,2343;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13632 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:14:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27553; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:10:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:09:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27469; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:09:33 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:09:32 +0100 Message-ID: <004801bef085$05f1c580$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908271147.HAA28070@mx03.together.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > no one, thats the point. we shouldnt have to pay > for products that arent ready for market. My point is that printing problems afflict EVERY application. Acrobat doesn't seem especially better or worse. And Adobe can't fix bugs in printer drivers. I'm sure there are bugs in Acrobat too, but the only way to avoid printing problems is to never print anything, ever, from any application. Printer and video drivers seem to me nothing short of a disgrace. However, I'm sure there are good reasons for that which I don't understand. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 12:20:52-GMT,2564;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13752 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:20:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28264; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:17:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:16:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28156; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:16:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990827081854.00881e70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:18:54 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] variable links In-Reply-To: <001101bef080$d1a9d140$35089cd1@oemcomputer> References: <412567DA.00369815.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Will, A question for you: Let's call these two versions of the manual A and B. As a user of the manual, would it be likely that I'd get both A & B versions, or would I get one or the other? If the latter, it seems that all you'd need to do in the CORE.PDF is include a link to PART2.PDF then ship the appropriate PART2.PDF (version A or B) for the specific version of the manual. If the former, and if as the user I'd be called on to repair two different cars, I think I'd prefer to have two links. "For more on meltdowns, see *Pinto* or *Blazer*" (Yeah, I know, two different companies; handing out a little equal-opportunity abuse here ) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 12:22:52-GMT,2961;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13825 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:22:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28349; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:18:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:17:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28273; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:17:47 -0500 Message-ID: <01BEF096.D1F4E200.kjetil@fiqas.nl> From: "Kjetil N. Limkjaer" To: "PDF Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Job tickets and PDF files Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:16:56 +0200 Organization: FIQAS Software B.V. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, The company I'm working for has a print job going, which prints a document on three different pages of paper. Currently, each page prints as a separate job, so the three pages of paper are taken from and output to different trays. However, the pages also needs to be stored electronically for later reference, and currently they're being archived as separate PDF files, which makes finding the pages belonging to a document tedious. What I'm looking into now is the possibility of using the Portable Job Ticket Format in the PDF file to set up the print run so each of the pages will get printed from/to the right tray, but still be stored in the same document. However, for a complete newbie the PJTF specification is quite hard to fathom from the Adobe docs :) What I'm wondering about is if anybody here knows if this is possible, has any experience with similar problems, knows where I can find documentation about this or even knows of an easy way to set it up :) I would really appreciate any input on this. Kind regards, Kjetil Limkjaer -------------------------------------------------------------- FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service -------------------------------------------------------------- Hornweg 5, 1432 GD AALSMEER, The Netherlands, +31(0)297-382323 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 12:31:35-GMT,2982;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14033 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:31:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29147; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:27:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:25:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28998; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:25:53 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990827082817.008d0c10@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:28:17 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. In-Reply-To: <199908271147.HAA28070@mx03.together.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > we shouldnt have to pay >for products that arent ready for market. And we shouldnt >have to pay for the fixes. a toaster breaks, return it, We shouldn't, but how does one determine when a software product is perfect (probably never) or at least ready for market in the sense that you're asking for? A toaster works in a fairly predictable environment. One kitchen countertop's pretty much like the next. That's not at all the case with software. Are we running on an NT box with tons of RAM or on a Win31 box with less free HDD space than the NT box had RAM? What kind of printer is it? A brand new PS3 or a Diconix 72dpi dot matrix printer? Granted, Adobe may have suggested that Acrobat will deliver on a wider variety of platforms than it may in fact be able to handle, but as a knowledgeable user of the product, I think you have to be willing to place some boundaries beyond which the user shouldn't expect your product to perform. Even toasters carry warnings that we shouldn't use them in the bathtub. Evidently some users don't know any better, else why would a warning be needed. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 12:33:33-GMT,2745;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14069 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:33:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29340; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:29:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:28:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29249; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:28:41 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567DA.004995D8.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:27:31 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: [PDF] variable links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Will, Sorry, I'm not very experienced in this issue, but it smells like JavaScript. (Although, I've never used JavaScript in PDF .. ) I guess plain PDF doesn't support such "dynamic" things. Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== "Will Freeman" 27.08.99 12:39 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: Re: Antwort: [PDF] variable links By variable link I mean if I highlight a word in the CORE manual, say text that refers the reader to chapter 6 of the specific manual, I need to be able to have that link go to either of the specific manuals. I was hoping for some type of a pull down option to appear. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 13:22:35-GMT,7115;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15008 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:22:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00320; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:12:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:07:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA32464; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:07:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393999@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:05:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In addition, Can anyone, from Adobe or otherwise, give us developers any idea when we might see an updated PDF Library that correctly supports Acrobat 4 specific features (like Color Management settings in Distiller, better CID 2-byte font handling, etc.)? Todd Reid -----Original Message----- From: Dean McCallum [mailto:deanmc01@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 8:16 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Mr. Inston: Over the last half year or so I have developed the highest regard for your Acrobat acumen, your sagacious PDF troubleshooting, and your deft analysis of the myriad of problems we lesser talented people have had with Acrobat 3.01. You have always seemed to be on-target and right. I feel like I'm questioning the authority of Moses on the validity of the Ten Commandments when I make the following comments. Aandi Inston wrote: > > Honestly. All I've seen so far is claims that files > display wrong - specifically one of Adobe's developer > documents. I don't see this on my systems here. > Honestly Mr. Inston, do you think the average Acrobat end user has your setup? I am certain your are right that there is no major problem with Acrobat 4 for those who develop files for high-end service bureaus and press operations. Professionals can afford Postscript-capable printers and/or top-grade equipment. In the U.S. our IRS posts virtually all of our tax forms in PDF on the Internet for anyone to down load and use. If the IRS responded to a taxpayer's complaint that "the forms won't print right this year" with comment like "go buy a PostScript printer," the politicians in Washington would be screaming for IRS blood. Considering how the IRS can confuse most things, I can't see them doing any better explaining how to set up a myriad of printers, computers, and operating systems to print the files as a graphic/bitmap etc. format. KISS (keep it simple, stupid) was a virtue of the older Acrobat 3.01 Reader for users of the IRS web site.. > 1. It stirs up panic, by suggesting Acrobat is fundamentally > broken. Since I haven't been able to reproduce this > problem, I think this is more in the area of "obscure > bug" than "utterly broken". Simply saying Acrobat is > broken is especially unhelpful for people already > committed to it; and may also put people off who could > really benefit from its use. I, for one, am "committed" to PDF and convinced my organization to use Acrobat 3.01 PDF for distributing all our training manuals and courses on CD's and on the Internet. We probably have spent over $250,000 US dollars just in contractor-converted Acrobat 3 PDF files. Yes, Acrobat 4.0 isn't broken. What may be "broken" is the trust I and many others had in Acrobat to output a file onto any printer, any where, with virtually no errors. My organization's customers aren't service bureaus or sophisticated digital print shops. They are "average Joes and Janes" with so many different Computer-printer configurations that the Acrobat 4 Reader cannot be considered reliable to print the products without a myriad of warnings, caveats, and lengthy instructions. I suspect that many others who have been "whining" about Acrobat 4 might have similar problems. I have heard more than one of your fellow gurus (e.g. Rich Sprague) wonder aloud why Adobe abandoned Helvetica and Times Postscript fonts. If anyone can explain that omission, it would have to be you. > So...please, someone, post step by step instructions for > reproducing this problem. Preferably using a pre-existing > publicly available PDF document that a number of different > people can look at. And, if you have evidence that it is > caused by the use of different screen fonts, please post > that too. > Mr. Inston, the issue for me is not whether an Acrobat 3.01 PDF file is really okay when viewed on a Acrobat 4 Reader and only an end user printer/screen font problem. The issue is that my customers will lose confidence in the accuracy and quality of our products and maybe look elsewhere. Organizations like mine can't ante up another $250,000 to have every file "redistilled" every time Adobe upgrades Acrobat versions. By the volume of similar comments and concerns expressed in this and other newsgroups, I seem to be not alone in this concern. My concerns are not addressed by an "academic replication of the errors drill." (Though I don't discount the value of it.) This is a dollars-and-cents and credibility issue for those of us who provide PDF to customers. Adobe made a conscious decision regarding the changing of it base fonts. They can also make a conscious decision to fix it. For a lesser world, that could solve a lot of problems. Tremulously awaiting the wrath of God, Dean McCallum > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- NOMINATE "Best of kind" PDFs in 12 categories TODAY -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/nomination.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 14:52:31-GMT,2841;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17138 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:52:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08831; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:45:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:42:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08574; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:42:43 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <412567DA.00552F89.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:41:31 +0100 Subject: [PDF] .... - TT version (still problems with Frutiger) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA08570 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi List, With AdobePS 4.3 and Distiller 4 you can correctly embed True Type Fonts. As I said _can_ this counts for many TTfonts, but *sigh* not for Frutiger Roman. When made sure Frutiger is ever embedded, you receive PDFs that look fine, but the textinformation includes every mutated vowel (and other special characters) I have ever seen like "kÉěÉë=açâěăÉĺí" I'm wondering what this is telling me. Was embedding disabled in the TTFont by Linotype? Why didn't Distiller warn me that embedding wasn't possible (I checked this option in Distiller settings)? Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== The MSTT* names no longer appear once you are using the combination of AdobePS 4.3 and Acrobat 4. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 15:26:05-GMT,2843;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18074 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:26:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12346; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:19:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:18:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12194; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:18:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199908271518.LAA15877@smtp6.mindspring.com> Subject: [PDF] Problems with embeding Century Gothic Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:31:11 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jennifer Greene asked; >I cannot figure out how to force it to embed Century Gothic. The font >should be available- Quark has no problem finding it; I have added >c:\windows\fonts to Distiller's Font Location list (it already had >c:\acrobat3\distillr\fonts) (although no fonts show up in the list >below it if I click on c:\windows\fonts in Job Options -> Font >Embedding - is something wrong here?). I also checked that Century >Gothic is an embeddable font- it is. Distiller has "Embed all fonts" >checked, and "Subset fonts below 35%" is set and checked. you do not describe how you are making the PostScript from Quark (this is muy importante!) - PLEASE consider Print to file with include all fonts, do not save as EPS! I do not believe that Acobat Distiller will embed the font if it is not present in the PostScript, so make sure the font is downloaded when you create the PostScript from Quark. for other useful help -- for Acrobat 3.x www.adobe.com/prodindex/postscript/PDFS/highres_book.pdf for Acrobat 4.x www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/PDFS/acr4finhowto.pdf hope this helps. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa corporation 200 Balardvale Street MS 200-4-5H WIlmington, MA 01887-1069 978.658.0200 press 1 then 5504 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 15:26:54-GMT,5090;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18099 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:26:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12347; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:19:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:18:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12193; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:18:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199908271518.LAA08899@smtp6.mindspring.com> Subject: [PDF] Fonts and editing issues... Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:31:09 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Will Mitchell posted; >I just have to comment on this issue after >reading countless emails on the trials and >tribulations of using ANY type font with Acrobat. > >PDF FILES ARE NOT EDITABLE AT THE PRE-PRESS STAGE!!!! > >Any documentation stating otherwise is untrue. > >If (as I have been reading) the issues surrounding >licensing restrictions, font embedding and substitution >with Arial, Helvetica.....whatever....are true then >how do we (prepress) edit PDF's? > >Truth in advertising just does not seem to apply to software >developers. More like, I made some software, pay for it, test >it, report back to me with the bugs, and pay for the fix. > >thanks for letting me rant...as I am know to do from time to time umm - are you thinking that because of "legal or licencing" reasons, you believe you are prohibited from editing PDF files you recieve from customers prior to output in cases where the font is embeded, but you don't happen to own them? well, don't be. no one will sue you for this sort of activity. If you extracted a font, converted them and started selling them, and if you were wildly successfull and were effecting sales (Agfa sells lots of fonts) - well, you might get a nasty cease and desist letter from a lawyer but you will have plenty of time to make millions and escape to brazil before they come a seize your property. or - did you rant because you are being frightened by all this back and forth about true type and type 1 and type 42 - and you are concerned that if you dare to correct a typo or change a price that the entire house of cards will collapse and your RIP will explode and thousands of helpless PDF files will die? At Agfa, we do countless product brochures, product description slide shows and distribute them to the counties via an internal web site as PDF. We edit the BEJESUS out of them - price changes, spelling errors, you name it. we just posted a informational/educational brochure on PDF/X in PDF format - TRUST me, it was my project, and we did all sorts of editing on that puppy. http://www.agfahome.com/products/workflow/intro2pdfx.pdf how do we do this, one might ask? we don't use TrueType, and we never ever ever (never) use base 14 fonts. been doing THAT trick since 2.1. works for us. hey, don't run with scissors either. We don't sell Adobes Distiller with our PDF making gadgetry (Agfa Apogee Pilot) - we have licenced the Adobe Normalizer, and customize the interface for use in the high end prepress market - but before you email asking if we did any "value added" to resolve font issues, no, we did not - we simply focused on representing some of the goofy spot color blends and colorized 1 bit tiff things that happen to be represented funny in the composite postscript that Quark XPress creates Adobe Acrobat Distiller tends to not "convert" these things in a way that our RIPs can then seperate into printing plates properly, so Apogee Pilot (with some preprocessing of PostScript and PostProcessing of PDF files) fixes certain things so we can represent them in a composite PDF file in such a way that provides us a method to seperate them later. But customers whom have purchased Apogee are thrilled that we bundle Enfocus PitStop with it so they can make corrections - as their customers sometimes require. http://www.agfahome.com/products/workflow/apogee.html Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 15:30:48-GMT,2450;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18231 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:30:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12966; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:24:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:23:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12850; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:23:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Job tickets and PDF files Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:23:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kjetil: There have been quite a few discussions about Adobe's Portable Job Ticket Format (PJTF) on another list that I follow: pdf-pp-l@infomania.com. A company named Acquired Knowledge is knowledgeable about PJTF, and at least one of thier products (EZ-PDF) offers some sort of support for PJTF. I suggest that you: - Check out the Acquired Knowledge Website: www.acquiredknowledge.com - Join the pdf-pp-l@infomania.com list Regards, Cynthia Leslie On 08/27/1999 Kjetil N. Limkjaer wrote: >What I'm looking into now is the possibility of using the Portable Job Ticket >Format in the PDF file to set up the print run so each of the pages will get >printed from/to the right tray, but still be stored in the same document. >However, for a complete newbie the PJTF specification is quite hard to fathom >from the Adobe docs :) _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 16:11:35-GMT,1994;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19450 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:11:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17132; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:05:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:02:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16838; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:02:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990827090306.0070199c@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca> X-Sender: lindseym@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:03:07 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Lindsey Thomas Martin Subject: [PDF] ... and a rant. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 08:28 8/27/1999 -0400, someone wrote or quoted: >> we shouldnt have to pay >>for products that arent ready for market. And we shouldnt >>have to pay for the fixes. a toaster breaks, return it, At the risk of trivialising a really rather useful exchange, I cannot resist asking how often one burns the toast, even with a perfectly functioning, state-of-the-art, toaster. LTM _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 16:37:29-GMT,3158;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20109 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:37:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19689; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:29:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:28:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19542; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:28:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199908271629.MAA25524@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:23:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Fonts and editing issues... From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > umm - are you thinking that because of "legal or licencing" reasons, you > believe you are prohibited from editing PDF files you recieve from > customers prior to output in cases where the font is embeded, but you > don't happen to own them? no, i only think this because of all the threads on this list that gave me the info in the first place. Correct me if I'm wrong but as I understand the issue, only some fonts can be embedded due to agreements between font foundries and Adobe. I could care less about being prohibited from doing something, thats never stopped me before. The issue is: How can I develp a workflow that will be consistent, reliable and easy to teach my customers how to use. Your success relied on complete control over font usage. The printing industry does not really work that way. Any commercial printer out there knows it is very difficult to control your customers. For many good reasons, number one being that many people with many different operating systesm and apps contribute to a project. It is just not feasible to design a workflow around the premise that I have that control. THAT is what makes me angry when I read product literature with claims such as full editability. this forum covers many different uses for pdf, and pdf is very useful for the majority of them. But in my world (high-end printing) pdf is usefull for softproofing only. by the way, we receive all the fonts used for a job with the application files and graphics and I still cant edit all the fonts in a pdf..... regards _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 17:00:03-GMT,2904;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20796 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23313; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:54:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:52:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23004; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:52:45 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts and editing issues... Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:52:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bef0ac$94c481e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <199908271629.MAA25524@mx03.together.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > THAT is what makes me angry when I read product > literature with > claims such as full editability. this forum covers many > different uses for > pdf, and pdf is very useful for the majority of them. But in my world > (high-end printing) pdf is usefull for softproofing only. I have no doubt that this is true for you, but I don't think you speak for a majority of people in high-end printing. 1. Many people can edit the kind of material they need to; 2. Editing is not a priority. Indeed, I question the use of PDF if editing *is* a priority, since editability is not a strength of PDF - nor something the product literature has made much of a fuss about either. There are, however, valuable tools to do a certain about of emergency editing. If we view PDF as a replacement for delivering PostScript, editability could hardly be an issue, since PostScript is way less editable. If we view PDF as a replacement for delivering high-end files, it all depends on your workflow. Late editing is, in my view, somewhat over-used as a substitute for actually talking to customers and getting them to fix their work. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 17:18:21-GMT,2549;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21343 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:18:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25142; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:09:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:07:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24871; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:07:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:10:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] ... and a rant. From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Script: \\filterscript.mml Message-Id: <17072442679121@acquiredknowledge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > At 08:28 8/27/1999 -0400, someone wrote or quoted: >>> we shouldnt have to pay >>>for products that arent ready for market. And we shouldnt >>>have to pay for the fixes. a toaster breaks, return it, > > At the risk of trivialising a really rather useful exchange, > I cannot resist asking how often one burns the toast, even with a perfectly > functioning, state-of-the-art, toaster. > LTM > How long have toasters been around, and I still can't buy one that works correctly. Even the expensive $100+ toasters have died after 6 or 7 months. I now prefer the cheap use once, throw away models. Getting back to the point, no one has still offered any solid reproducible evidence of a problem using the ArialMT and TimesNewRomanMT fonts. This is what was specifically asked for in the original post. I guess, I too, am left wondering what the fuss is all about. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge, Inc. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 17:36:49-GMT,3349;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21785 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27682; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:28:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:27:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27516; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:27:11 -0500 From: Jennifer Greene Message-Id: <199908271726.NAA01697@louis.dfci.harvard.edu> Subject: RE: [PDF] Font problems with Century Gothic To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: steve@rdpslides.com In-Reply-To: <199908262333.SAA05992@everglades.binc.net> from "pdf-digest" at Aug 26, 99 06:33:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: Steve Rindsberg > > >Originally Acrobat kept on insisting on substituting another font for > >Century Gothic > > Back up a bit. *Something* is doing the substitution, but it's probably > not Acrobat. > > Check your printer driver settings first. Rightclick the printer driver, > choose Properties and truck on over to the Fonts tab. Click Edit Table, > locate Century Gothic and I'll bet you'll see that it's set to use the > printer's Avant Garde font. Change that to Send As Outlines instead. I > suspect that'll sort it out nicely. Yes!! That fixed it- thank you so much! > From: "Aandi Inston" > > I suspect that you are trying to Distill an EPS file. DON'T! > They don't include fonts, so this happens. > Print to file, using the Distiller PPD, distill the result. No, I am pretty sure that the Quark-to-PDF plugin filter works by printing to a file and the sending it through the Distiller PPD. In fact I can see it doing that. > Distiller can only locate and embed PostScript fonts, and there > aren't any of them in c:\windows\fonts. That's why you must ensure > that TrueType fonts are embedded in the PostScript file created > by XPress. Okay thanks- I knew there was something screwy there, but wasn't quite sure of the workings of Acrobat in that regard. > Yes. PDFWriter is utterly unsuitable for XPress. Good- I had come to that conclusion, but it is good to hear it confirmed. > Aandi Thanks! and thanks to Steve Rindsberg for the solution! -Jennifer --- Jennifer Greene Eastern Cooperative Oncology Group greene.jennifer@jimmy.harvard.edu _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 17:47:39-GMT,2926;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22108 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:47:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28946; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:37:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:36:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28787; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:36:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199908271737.NAA15022@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:31:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Fonts and editing issues... From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA28783 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ since editability is not > a strength of PDF - nor something the product literature > has made much of a fuss about either. -----product literature quote directly from the Enfocus Pitstop 4.0 box: "If you are a creator of PDF documents for distribution or publishing you need PitStop to control and guarantee the quality of your PDF documents. Enfocus PitStop 4.0 is a complete production tool for Adobe Acrobat that combines preflight checking, interactive and native PDF editing, and automated correction capabilities..." I dont know if thats much of a fuss but is sure is a claim with a guarantee associated with it. ------literature from Adobe on the Acrobat 4.0 box: "€ Convert any document, no matter what application was used to create it, to PDF, which faithfully preserves the original fonts, colors, images, and layout" what it is to laugh another quote: "Transfer PDF files to service bureaus and printers electronically. PDF files contain all the fonts, formatting, and image data necessary to print predictably." heee heee Late > editing is, in my view, somewhat over-used as a substitute for > actually talking to customers and getting them to fix their > work. I couldnt agree more... > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 17:48:39-GMT,2665;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22138 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:48:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28586; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:34:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:33:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28426; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:33:20 -0500 Message-ID: <37C6CC27.9CF6992A@pfp.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:34:32 -0700 From: "David M. Davisson" Organization: Pacific Financial Printing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] ... and a rant. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <17072442679121@acquiredknowledge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Todd Donahue wrote: > Getting back to the point, no one has still offered any solid > reproducible > evidence of a problem using the ArialMT and TimesNewRomanMT fonts. > This is > what was specifically asked for in the original post. > Well, I certainly have had troubles with these and other fonts in Acrobat 4.0. The problem is printer driver specific. In my case I tried upgrading our HP LaserJet 5MP drivers to the latest, per Adobe's recommendation for printer problems, and nothing would print correctly using _ANY_ True Type fonts and only fully embedded Postscript Type 1 fonts. With the old printer drivers, only graphics will blow up. It is a mess. The only reliable way to print from Acrobat 4 is using the screwy, slow, print as image. Adobe really screwed the pooch on this release. I spend every day with customers now solving print problems. The legal community is getting the perception that Acrobat prints slow and unreliably. ----- David M. Davisson davisson@pfp.net _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 17:57:39-GMT,2403;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22395 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:57:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30398; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:50:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:48:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30233; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:48:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199908271750.NAA18746@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:44:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] ... and a rant. From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ David M. Davisson wrote: > Well, I certainly have had troubles with these and other fonts in > Acrobat 4.0. The problem is printer driver specific. In my case I > tried upgrading our HP LaserJet 5MP drivers to the latest, per Adobe's > recommendation for printer problems, and nothing would print correctly > using _ANY_ True Type fonts and only fully embedded Postscript Type 1 > fonts. With the old printer drivers, only graphics will blow up. It is > a mess. The only reliable way to print from Acrobat 4 is using the > screwy, slow, print as image. > > Adobe really screwed the pooch on this release. I spend every day with > customers now solving print problems. The legal community is getting > the perception that Acrobat prints slow and unreliably. > > ----- > > Bravo David! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 19:51:26-GMT,2515;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25496 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:51:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12193; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:44:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:41:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11780; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:41:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:44:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] ... and a rant. From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Script: \\filterscript.mml Message-Id: <19412476981655@acquiredknowledge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Well, I certainly have had troubles with these and other fonts in > Acrobat 4.0. The problem is printer driver specific. In my case I > tried upgrading our HP LaserJet 5MP drivers to the latest, per Adobe's > recommendation for printer problems, and nothing would print correctly > using _ANY_ True Type fonts and only fully embedded Postscript Type 1 > fonts. Can you provide a link to a PDF file that contains Helvetica or Times-Roman that is NOT embedded (and therefore would use ArialMT and TimesNewRomanMT for screen display). I would like to see if I have problems printing to our 6MP printer. Both the 5MP and 6MP are Adobe PostScript printers and therefore contain the Helvetica and Times-Roman family of fonts in ROM. Per Adobe, printing to these printers should not be a problem. I would like to see if this is true. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge, Inc. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 20:03:41-GMT,2168;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25793 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:03:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13852; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:58:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:56:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13637; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:56:40 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990827155815.00915100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:58:15 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad font display: any real evidence? and a rant. In-Reply-To: <004801bef085$05f1c580$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <199908271147.HAA28070@mx03.together.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Printer and video drivers seem to me nothing short >of a disgrace. However, I'm sure there are good >reasons for that which I don't understand. > Greed at the expense of customer satisfaction was never your long suit, Aandi. ;-) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Download TWO FREE Computerstream plug-ins for Acrobat & Reader -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/ComputerstreamFree.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 21:13:58-GMT,4634;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27885 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23039; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:08:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:07:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22885; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:07:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199908272107.RAA16986@smtp4.mindspring.com> Subject: [PDF] OPI explainied Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:20:39 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ r|i|c|h wrote; >Okay, one more question. > >My name is Average User. Hi Average user (whom, BTW, is NOT quite so average in that they not only contribute and participate in a forum but are not afraid to admit they are confused - so after so much sucking up - hey, I thought your name was r|i|c|h. - and what is actually up with that "|" thing - is this like putting caPital leTers in the miDdel of words we use for ProDucts? >In 25 words or less, what do I need to know about >OPI 1.3 and 2.0? right. dude - it is imposible to describe in 25 words a "workflow" that involves integration between an application, print drivers, a print spooling application and an OPI server - and oh yea, and how Distiller "preserves" (ahem) or changes the constructs ... (oops, these words do not count in the 25, okay?) OPI (Open Prepress Interface) is normally encountered by users who want to avoid long print times with pages that are laden with images (like retail newspaper inserts, catalogs and magazines and other well meaning documents that end up in local landfills). actually, that was 40 words, not counting the OPI acronym or puctuation - possibly you ment 250 words? Since most OPI users either use Adobe Pagebreaker or Quark EXcess, and I simply do not personally care about Pagebreaker - I will limit my comments to Quarks implimentations. Okay, OPI 1.3 was a finished specification when Adobe went gold with Acrobat 3.0 in February of 97 (i think thats right) and (unfortunately) the OPI 2.0 spec was NOT complete, so Adobe decided NOT to support 2.0 comments Distiller 3.0 - since that time, little has been done to complete the 2.0 OPI specification, and also since then, Adobe decided to ship Acrobat 4.0 and support OPI 2.0 comments. > Which programs use which, and what do they do for me? Quark XPress sends 1.3 comments only (if you go into the print dialog box and select select Omit TIFF & EPS in the OPI selection area) what that does for you is let you send "thin" PostScript to an OPI server, and it will make the swop (okay, not SWOP, switch) and make "fat" PostScript - (that is, "Thin" PostScript defined as a PostScript files with simple comments in it that direct a server application to place a high resolution image into a PostScript file (which makes it "Fatter" or bigger in MBs) and send it to a RIP (or Distiller, for example) some people actually distill the thin postscript and impose that - and then print that to the OPI server which in turn then spits out fat PostScript or Fat PDF - some people simply print thin PostScript to the OPI server and then Distill the Fat postScript that comes out of it... so, as it relates to Distiller, it now supports both of the specification, but since quark does not generate 2.0 OPI anyway, they don't do much for you. So, hope that helps. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa corporation 200 Balardvale Street MS 200-4-5H WIlmington, MA 01887-1069 978.658.0200 press 1 then 5504 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 21:14:03-GMT,2647;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27891 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22619; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:04:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:02:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22309; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:02:09 -0500 Message-ID: <37C6FD18.3A87BBEA@pfp.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:03:20 -0700 From: "David M. Davisson" Organization: Pacific Financial Printing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] ... and a rant. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <19412476981655@acquiredknowledge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Todd Donahue wrote: > > Can you provide a link to a PDF file that contains Helvetica or > Times-Roman > that is NOT embedded (and therefore would use ArialMT and > TimesNewRomanMT > for screen display). I would like to see if I have problems printing > to our > 6MP printer. > > Both the 5MP and 6MP are Adobe PostScript printers and therefore > contain the > Helvetica and Times-Roman family of fonts in ROM. Per Adobe, printing > to > these printers should not be a problem. I would like to see if this is > true. Todd, It was not fair of me to flame Adobe without giving them a chance to solve my problem. Yes, I have tried a link to Postscript font substition and it didn't work. I also tried the pure postscript driver to no avail. Steve McShurely of Adobe has asked for files from me to help resolve this issue, which I will provide when I get back from vacation. I will keep you informed as to my resolution. ----- David M. Davisson davisson@pfp.net _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-1999 23:27:59-GMT,3872;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01386 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06623; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:23:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:21:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06284; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:21:30 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990827160045.00aa3100@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:17:17 -0700 To: "David M. Davisson" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] ... and a rant. Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <37C6CC27.9CF6992A@pfp.net> References: <17072442679121@acquiredknowledge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Printing to a LaserJet 5MP in PostScript should be a snap! I suspect that the problem may have to do with old, obsolete drivers on you system that were not fully removed when you thought you deleted them, at least if you are on Windows. Following is true for Windows'9X: -------------------------------- HP shipped "customized" versions of the AdobePS drivers with the 5MP, but never updated them to be compatible with the later versions of AdobePS. Unless you get rid of the extensions, use of the newer drivers may fail in strange ways. Look for the PPD file for the 5MP in the Windows\System directory. Then look for a file with the same base name as the PPD, but with the suffix .DLL. Delete that file (or if you feel uncomfortable about that, move it elsewhere). Delete the current PostScript driver and then reinstall AdobePS 4.3 using the HP LaserJet 5MP PPD. Things should work now. - Dov At 8/27/99 10:34 AM , David M. Davisson wrote: >Todd Donahue wrote: > > > Getting back to the point, no one has still offered any solid > > reproducible > > evidence of a problem using the ArialMT and TimesNewRomanMT fonts. > > This is > > what was specifically asked for in the original post. > > > >Well, I certainly have had troubles with these and other fonts in >Acrobat 4.0. The problem is printer driver specific. In my case I >tried upgrading our HP LaserJet 5MP drivers to the latest, per Adobe's >recommendation for printer problems, and nothing would print correctly >using _ANY_ True Type fonts and only fully embedded Postscript Type 1 >fonts. With the old printer drivers, only graphics will blow up. It is >a mess. The only reliable way to print from Acrobat 4 is using the >screwy, slow, print as image. > >Adobe really screwed the pooch on this release. I spend every day with >customers now solving print problems. The legal community is getting >the perception that Acrobat prints slow and unreliably. > >----- >David M. Davisson >davisson@pfp.net _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 28-Aug-1999 18:01:36-GMT,3887;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22133 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:01:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25572; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:57:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:52:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25126; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:52:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199908281752.NAA20944@smtp6.mindspring.com> Subject: [PDF] Creating Mail to in PDF Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:06:09 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I would like to create an author 'mailto' link in a PDF document when >viewed in a browser. How could this be done? Any references I should >note or examples of this having been done would be appreciated. besides the "open the PDF and add a link" method - either using the link tool or a form object - do you want to do this so that the PostScript that is submitted to Distiller has information in it that when Distiller encouters it Distiller will create these mail to links? There are clues on hoiw to do this in the Adobe Technote 5150 the PDF Mark Reference manual - file is named "PDFMARK.pdf" (this tech note is probably already on you hard drive - it is placed there when you install acrobat) just modify the example so it is an email address instead of a URL... example below; (just tested it, it works) <--start snip--> %!PS-Adobe-3.0 %%BeginProlog %% This bit makes sure that RIPs that do not understand %% pdfmark coding won't puke when they encounter them /pdfmark where {pop} {userdict /pdfmark /cleartomark load put} ifelse %%EndProlog %%BeginSetup % CATALOG INFO %% this bit is so i can keep track of my millions of %% silly projects and actually find them later [ /Title (link to mail example) /Author (Michael Jahn) /Subject (pdfmark 2.0) /Keywords (pdfmark, mail, link) /Creator (Hand Programmed) /ModificationDate (D:19990829205731) /MyKey (pdfzone help) /DOCINFO pdfmark % this bit creates a note that explain what the link does [ /Rect [ 40 425 295 445 ] /Contents (the link to the right should invoke a mail session addressed to mikejahn@jahn.com) /ANN pdfmark %% this bit creates a 2 point red rectangle around the mail to link %% which is a custom link action (URI link for the Acrobat WebLink plug-in) [/Rect [ 50 425 295 445 ] /Action << /Subtype /URI /URI (mailto:mikejahn@jahn.com) >> /Border [ 0 0 2 ] /Color [ .7 0 0 ] /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark %%EOF <--end snip--> if you copy paste the stuff between the <--snip-->'s into a text document, save and distill, you will get a PDF that contains a link that invoke an email session in a browser that has the PDF Plug-in enabled. hope this helps. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 28-Aug-1999 20:36:43-GMT,6093;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25025 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:36:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05989; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:32:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:30:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05751; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:30:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199908282030.QAA31658@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Using PJTF files to process PDFs Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 01:43:31 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kjetil Limkjaer asked; >Hi all, > >The company I'm working for has a print job going, which prints a document on >three different pages of paper. Currently, each page prints as a separate >job, >so the three pages of paper are taken from and output to different trays. >However, the pages also needs to be stored electronically for later >reference, >and currently they're being archived as separate PDF files, which makes >finding >the pages belonging to a document tedious. > >What I'm looking into now is the possibility of using the Portable Job >Ticket >Format in the PDF file to set up the print run so each of the pages will get >printed from/to the right tray, but still be stored in the same document. >However, for a complete newbie the PJTF specification is quite hard to >fathom >from the Adobe docs :) > >What I'm wondering about is if anybody here knows if this is possible, has >any >experience with similar problems, knows where I can find documentation about >this or even knows of an easy way to set it up :) I would really >appreciate any >input on this. > >Kind regards, > Kjetil Limkjaer > >- -------------------------------------------------------------- > FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service >- -------------------------------------------------------------- >Hornweg 5, 1432 GD AALSMEER, The Netherlands, +31(0)297-382323 > specifying how a PDF file is to be processed (using a PJTF file anyway) would require some implimentation of Adobe PostScript Extreme (or some "Extreme clone" approach, of course!). The short answer is, you would need a method to configure "the job" - like, specify which PDF files are to be used for this job, and where to send them (lets assume that there is a single "device" that you are submiting it to as opposed to submitiing the job to three different printers here, which would require some implimentation of the "controller" part of extreme (my guess here)) you would need a Job Ticket Editor (some sort of application that builds the Job Ticket and can save it as a PJTF file) and some sort of Job Ticket Processor (some application like thingee that lives on some computer on the network that knows what the job ticket is telling it to do and then pull the PDF files from where they live (in the case of Adobe Exteme (well, Agfas implimentation of it anyway, that would be the PageStore) - and then send them merrily to the RIP. Well, now, where can you buy THAT you might ask. hum. I am not sure if we (using our Agfa Apogee Pilot application that runs on Windows NT server) can access three different paper trays in a single job - if these were three separate PostScript files and i did some custom code in between them, i suppose i could get this to work, but our implimentation of Extreme does not use the approach of placing PJTF inside of PDF files - we keep them as a seperate file and at submit, the PJTF file is "applied" to the PDF files that are "pointed at" by the PJTF file - and as part of our JTE (Job Ticket Editor) enables you to select a PPD and select options, well, i am not sure i can select different paper trays in a single "submit". I can envision that if you could embed different PJTF data inside each PDF, and you dropped this directly to a PostScript 3 RIP that recgnised or otherwise honored embeded PJTF data inside a PDF, well, that would seem to do the job. Honestly, this is the very first instance where i grasped Adobes vision and the value of embeding a JT data in a PDF...up to reading this post today, we could only see it causing more issues than solving (imagine several PDF files paginated or imposed into a single PDF and each having conficting PJTF commands) ... so, we are still stuck with the problem that you need an application that can configure the JT data to do what you want, and a way (my guess here) to embed it inside the PDFs. I will have to get back to you on that one after i email this to some of the Agfa R&D team who are savvy to all of this, but if i were in need of solving this by next week, smells like custom javascript to me my friend - one that probably invovles keeping your pages seperate, writing a script and embeding it in each PDF, and setting up some watched folder that launches acrobat and prints to PostScript individually. best i can do for now. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 28-Aug-1999 20:36:44-GMT,10771;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25026 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:36:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06034; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:32:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:30:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05727; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:30:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199908282030.QAA24237@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] So, is it the guns fault or the person shooting themselves in the foot? Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 01:43:26 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA05722 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Will Mitchell ranted; (sorry to pick on ya dude - but ya called my moma ugly - and the clouds have not burned off yet so i cant go to the beach yet) related to the "sorry state of PDF behavior in high end prepress environments" (a subject near and dear to my heart) >no one, thats the point. we shouldnt have to pay >for products that arent ready for market. And we shouldnt >have to pay for the fixes. a toaster breaks, return it, what if the power in your house (bad wiring, spikes, your cabin was hit by lightning) caused the toaster to break? what if your humidity is so high and with all the salt in the air in your environment caused it to corrode prematurely? what if you think that it is reasonable to pull bagles directly out of the freezer and throw them in thaw and toast them, and that breaks it? It is not that simple Will! <--snip--> >Greed my man, nothing but >greed. Its a great setup, I'm just jealous I'm not a developer. trust me, if you think it is that simple, you will fail miserably as a developer! We are working on version 1.1 of our PDF workflow product "Agfa Apogee" which uses the OEM version of Distiller - all which use the Adobe Normalizer - and i must say, we have had to be REALLY tenatious creating a tool that will generate PDF files that behave in high end commercial prepress environments because of three problems (in this order); 1. People not understanding how to set up PPDs, the System, the fonts and select the proper printer drivers. 2. People not understanding that their device is using a clone rip (or a non-postscript rip) which may behave "differently" than a adobe licenced one. (caveat - i can set up an Agfa RIP to honor or ignore certain constructs (like overprint, for example), so the same rip can output a specific PDF or PostScript file differently as well - i know "shoot me now" may be buzzing in your brain, but different printing types like flexo or gravure require certain things to be handled differently (like, you want that white type to overprint because it is white ink that is opaque on a beer can) - which Will, i am sure you understand, but others on the list may not) 3. authoring applications that are unable to generate useable composite postscript that we can convert into PDF number three can be overcome in many cases, as we can either add to the PostScript (with an Xtension or Plug-in or via a PPD) or Preprocess the PostScript (to fix or change how something is represented so the Normalizer can processes this condition properly) or even PostProcess the PDF (by adding something that Distiller or the Normalizer clobbered or changing something so it can be seperated properly, or in some cases, add or change something so it can be detected and editied using PJTF information (Portable Job Ticket Format) - many of these "prepress" and "separation" issues fall into the catagory of what was once in PostScript a "device dependent graphic state operator" - which simply means that if the device does not support it, things get sideways and feces is sprayed randomly by the circulating blades. And (of course) even representing them properly in PDF is not always force every rip to process them as was intended (another "make sure shoot me now fatally" moment i suppose... We have shipped three free upgades since 1.0 - 1.01. 1.02, 1.03 - we have even added features that were never promised with version 1.0 - in the latest version that is given free to the Apogee user, we have figured out how to fix additional types of duotones, and in Quark composite postscript, we support spot to CMYK blends, spot to spot blends, colorized 1 bit TIFFs, colorized 8 bit TIFFs, spot to white blends, spot to none blends - all things that are not properly represented in the PostScript that Quark generates, but can be represented in and seperated from PDF. Are we greedy - humm...we are as anxious as you to get past all these situations to a place where PDF workflow is more reliable - but nothing is perfectable when humans are involved (yes, i admit, both in the way we write code and the way others use it, or if Adobe actually agrees with how we are using the stuff we licence from them - a definite "shoot someone now" moment...so do not have venor or developer envy, the grass may look greener on this side of the fence, but it is really cement painted green with a blur filter installed over it... but the number one reason is messed up operator issues - by far. >Instead I have to work with their products in the real world and >after 10 years of listening to promise after promise, PDF and Acrobat >are pretty much where they were 6 or 7 years ago. wow. i just can't agree. 10 years ago was 1989. I lived in Buffalo New York. I think i was making $23,000 a year, and was THRILLED to have the job - I was hand coding PostScript and got hired by a prepress company - and was using a Mac II with a 8 MBs of RAM and 40 MB hard drive with a 17 inch super mac monitor which cost over 15,000 dollars US - more than half what i was being paid - we had to open every single PostScript file and type in concat statements to get the pages to positioned themselves properly for the RIP. We were hand editing PPDs and not really understanding what thoes PostScript answering swamis on compuserve was really talking about, just copying and pasting and watching the process bar creep along and see what the imagesetter spit out. We were saving single lines of text as eps files so we could rotate them in Quark. PixelPaint and Photoshop 1.0 only supported RGB and I was faced with having to buy two more Scitex Imagers at over $500,000 a pop. We were charging $770.00 for a set of film with a cromalin proof, which was really cheap back then (we barely made money on this due to the labor!) Software revisions came on 9 tract magnetic tape for the Scitex, and the HP 1000E towers required a computer floor, a halon system (in case of fires) and they stood over 6 feet tall, and THEY were 8 bit computers - I have a board in a frame over my desk that is about 8 x 7 inches, and it contains 64 K of memory (that is K, not MB). my 500 MB winchester drives were the size of my washing machine. I remember ripping an Adobe Illustrator 88 file that took 8 hours, and it was a little jam jar design (okay, some things have not improved all that much... and Acrobat was not going to be announced until 1993. You want to talk about font problems? We had screen fonts and printer fonts (which often did not match - as in MY GOD, don't EVER use the & symbold with that font cause you get a ś instead!) - we had no WYSIWIG screen rendering, since ATM had not shipped and Quark could only render Type C fonts. fast forward to February of 95 (or was it 96? I remember it was February for some reason), - in Louisville KY now - working for a Gravure printer - so that is only 3 or 4 years ago - i discovered that if i edited that example file in the start-up folder, we could make Distiller version 2.1 actually LEAVE MY CMYK images as CMYK images! and turn off that nasty JPEG! compression if i wanted to! THIS WAS HUGE for us, because now we could get customers (who understood high end production, scanned their own images and built great pages) to give us files that behaved. I remember it was February because i missed the flight due to snow on my way to show the customer the Matchprint made from the PDF file we made at the customer site - a week later, we also discovered that we could actually use FTP to transfer these PDF files over the the internet because they were only 7 MBs (the PostScript was over 70MBs) for late changes - this was ALSO a HUGE change. So, now i work for a vendor, and can tell you that we have one HECK of a time recreating some of the font failures our customers describe - 90% of the time, they had used some incorrect approach at creating the PostScript that was the cause of the problem, or sellected the wrong PPD, or used some badly built printer driver, and since we simply get the PDF file (and it worked fine at out end) well, there you have it - we can't duplicate the problem because we can't duplicate the environment. So while i really wish PDF fixed everything, it can't, it won't and like the toaster example, you must understand proper toaster enviroment, workflow and the settings (light, medium or dark) - results vary! didn't mean to pick on you specifically Will, but we all should remind ourselves how far we have come. in 1989, my prepress budget for new equipment was 1.6 million dollars, and i was miserable, because we could not meet the demands even with three shifts. I can buy a platesetter and have plently of money left over for a monster server and a boat load of macs and PCs for that kinda cash. from Redondo Beach getting ready for Seybold (as in, See how Bold we are with our Marketing hype!) Michael Jahn PDF Terrorist _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 30-Aug-1999 8:47:43-GMT,1853;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04917 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 02:47:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02118; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:40:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:31:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01447; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:31:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:31:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Vito Andolini To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] via form -> print to a specifik printer? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible to make a Form-button in .pdf that execute an action so the page it printed directly to a specific printer? If i select Execute Menu Item then Print, the Print menu appears, i want to avoid this site, and i want the printer name to be pre-set. Maybe it is possible from a JavaScript? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 23-Aug-1999 15:43:21-GMT,2856;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01201 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:43:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01752; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:34:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:30:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01127; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:30:45 -0500 From: espresso@e-scape.net X-Sender: espresso@sage.e-scape.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:34:11 -0500 To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How to Apply Security Settings to muliple PDF files. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA01122 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ "Michael H. Martel" asked: >The last question I have, is is there a way within Distiller to produce a >PDF that is completely read only without the need for passwords ? So that >there is _absolutely_ no way to change the contents ? Dear Michael, Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but, whatever may or may not be possible from within Distiller, a really determined individual can always find SOME way of messing with the contents. 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URL for registration=> http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/prior-code.html URL for PDFzone.com=> http://www.pdfzone.com/ 30-Aug-1999 12:28:34-GMT,2281;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA08870 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18298; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:27:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:23:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17898; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:23:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4EA3EAEB@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF DEV List , PDF List Subject: [PDFdev] Visible But Does Not Print problem Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:23:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ I have a problem with some buttons in the margin that I have set as Visible But Do Not Print. If the user response indicates that they don't need to fill out this section, I hide the section with a large form field. I hide the buttons in the margin with the Show/Hide Field action I also have a reset button, which makes all buttons visible again (using the Show/Hide Field action). The Reset makes the buttons in the margin visible again, but now they print. I need them to be Visible But Not Print. Does anyone know the JavaScript I would use instead of the Show/Hide Field that would set the buttons to Visible But Do Not Print? TIA, -Bob Perry ASA Inc _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage includes live PDF Day updates from CA -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 30-Aug-1999 12:30:09-GMT,2281;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA08927 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:30:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18087; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:25:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:23:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17916; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:23:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4EA3EAEB@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF DEV List , PDF List Subject: [PDF] Visible But Does Not Print problem Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:23:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a problem with some buttons in the margin that I have set as Visible But Do Not Print. If the user response indicates that they don't need to fill out this section, I hide the section with a large form field. I hide the buttons in the margin with the Show/Hide Field action I also have a reset button, which makes all buttons visible again (using the Show/Hide Field action). The Reset makes the buttons in the margin visible again, but now they print. I need them to be Visible But Not Print. Does anyone know the JavaScript I would use instead of the Show/Hide Field that would set the buttons to Visible But Do Not Print? TIA, -Bob Perry ASA Inc _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 30-Aug-1999 14:51:28-GMT,2000;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12016 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:51:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31121; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:41:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:39:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30853; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:39:31 -0500 From: Rob_Fenter@conseco.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CCM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <052567DD.0050DACF.00@ccm3.conseco.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:37:33 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Embedded code in Acrobat .PDF? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I was wondering if anybody has had any luck or experience with embedded code in a .PDF file. I am exploring a possible implemetation plan that could utilize this. Basically, I want a Unix originated PDF file to have embedded code inserted, so when it is sent to a NT printer queue, the embedded code can be read for further processing. If anybody has any idea on the capabilities of this, please let me know. Rob Fenter rob_fenter@conseco.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 30-Aug-1999 14:57:24-GMT,2935;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12197 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:57:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32519; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:53:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:52:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32361; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:52:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Balaji, V." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Reader - Stamping on print capability Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:52:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a need to have PDF documents viewed as regular documents when viewed on the intranet, however, any printed copies of these documents (printed from any printer) should have a Watermark saying that "THIS IS A COPY ONLY ..." We are storing PDF documents within a Intranet based PDM system, and for QS9000 purposes we need to differentiate between the Master (the PDF document on the computer screen) and any Copies made (any printed copies of these PDF files printed on any local printer). My question is : *) Is there any way to have Reader view a document but print a different (watermarked) document ? alternatively (and this is my second choice) *) Is there anyway to disable the printer ikon when the pdf document is viewed with acrobat reader plugin ? This way I can have a button that says print, that prints an accompanying printable version of the document. This disabling of the printer ikon should be document specific, as users will definetly have other needs to view documents on the web and print them out ? Any other suggestions would be welcome. Email me if you need more clarification, and thank you for your help. V. BALAJI Sr. Systems Engineer Product Engineering Harman Motive, Inc. 1201 S. Ohio St. Martinsville, IN 46151 Ph: (765) 342 5555 x 527 Fax: (765) 349 2857 EMail: balaji@harman.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 30-Aug-1999 15:11:46-GMT,2157;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12607 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:11:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01574; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:07:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:06:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01390; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:06:09 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B62@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Reader - Stamping on print capability Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:05:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You can disable printing of the document within the Security options in Acrobat. > ---------- > From: Balaji, V.[SMTP:Balaji@harman.com] > > *) Is there anyway to disable the printer ikon when the pdf document > is > viewed with acrobat reader plugin ? > This way I can have a button that says print, that prints an > accompanying printable version of the document. > This disabling of the printer ikon should be document specific, as > users > will definetly have other needs to > view documents on the web and print them out ? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 30-Aug-1999 17:14:34-GMT,3593;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16530 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:14:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12238; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:08:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:05:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12006; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:05:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:53:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Visible But Does Not Print problem From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990830170502.WDKR1758.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Bob, I think I understand what you are looking for... You have buttons, and they have a form field overtop of them, that can be turned on to hide or show these buttons. However they don't print if the form field is told to hide them. In the form field appearance section tab, select don't print for the form field. This should allow it to wotk visually in the file, but act as if it doesn't exist when you print. I hopefully have understood the request, if I need to be clarified, please feel free to email me... Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflow Specialist especially PDF ---------- >From: "Perry, Bob" >To: PDF DEV List , PDF List >Subject: [PDF] Visible But Does Not Print problem >Date: Mon, Aug 30, 1999, 8:23 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I have a problem with some buttons in the margin that I have set as Visible > But Do Not Print. If the user response indicates that they don't need to > fill out this section, I hide the section with a large form field. I hide > the buttons in the margin with the Show/Hide Field action > > I also have a reset button, which makes all buttons visible again (using the > Show/Hide Field action). The Reset makes the buttons in the margin visible > again, but now they print. I need them to be Visible But Not Print. > > Does anyone know the JavaScript I would use instead of the Show/Hide Field > that would set the buttons to Visible But Do Not Print? > > TIA, > -Bob Perry > ASA Inc > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 30-Aug-1999 17:14:51-GMT,4048;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16534 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:14:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12382; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:10:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:09:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12255; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:09:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:56:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Reader - Stamping on print capability From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990830170854.WHTN1758.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, Add a form to each page with your watermark, place in the background. If the form is being printed, ensure the watermark prints in the form appearance tab, otherwise it should be invisible.. Any further questions on this idea are welcome, Jason Belec ;)~ Digital workflows Specialist, especially PDF ---------- >From: "Balaji, V." >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Reader - Stamping on print capability >Date: Mon, Aug 30, 1999, 10:52 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I have a need to have PDF documents viewed as regular documents when viewed > on the intranet, > however, any printed copies of these documents (printed from any printer) > should have a Watermark > saying that "THIS IS A COPY ONLY ..." > > We are storing PDF documents within a Intranet based PDM system, and for > QS9000 purposes we > need to differentiate between the Master (the PDF document on the computer > screen) and any Copies > made (any printed copies of these PDF files printed on any local printer). > > My question is : > > *) Is there any way to have Reader view a document but print a different > (watermarked) document ? > > alternatively (and this is my second choice) > > *) Is there anyway to disable the printer ikon when the pdf document is > viewed with acrobat reader plugin ? > This way I can have a button that says print, that prints an > accompanying printable version of the document. > This disabling of the printer ikon should be document specific, as users > will definetly have other needs to > view documents on the web and print them out ? > > Any other suggestions would be welcome. > Email me if you need more clarification, and thank you for your help. > > V. BALAJI > Sr. Systems Engineer > Product Engineering > Harman Motive, Inc. > > 1201 S. Ohio St. > Martinsville, IN 46151 > > Ph: (765) 342 5555 x 527 > Fax: (765) 349 2857 > EMail: balaji@harman.com > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 10:21:04-GMT,2004;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11158 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:21:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29316; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:11:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:06:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28986; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:06:27 -0500 Message-ID: <19990831100612.68520.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [193.158.252.9] From: "Karsten Schumann" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF to PostScript conversion Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:06:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi to everyone on the list! Does anyone know about a utility/library to convert PDF to PostScript for NT? The tricky part is that I need to call the conversion utility from within an application server. Meaning I either need a command-line utility or better a library or a COM interface. Any hints are very appreciated. Thanks, Karsten ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 11:14:13-GMT,2351;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12163 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:14:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA00034; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:05:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:03:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA32708; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:03:46 -0500 Message-ID: <37CBB685.7F175FC1@fast.net> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:03:35 -0400 From: Joe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Macintosh Beta Plugins References: <3.0.1.32.19990820075608.006a6594@mallard.duc.auburn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Just released on Adobes web site: > Download free beta plug-ins to get Web > Capture, digital signatures, Send Mail, and more. New Beta: Macintosh Plug-ins for Adobe Acrobat 4.0 If you own the Macintosh version of AdobeŽ AcrobatŽ 4.0, these pre-release (beta) plug-ins will give you added functionality previously available only in Acrobat 4.0 for Windows. Delivered in a single installer, the four plug-ins are Web Capture, Digital Signatures, Compare Pages, and Send Mail. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 13:15:49-GMT,2429;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14719 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:15:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08389; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:09:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:07:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08206; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:07:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:11:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199908311311.GAA01736@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <19990831100612.68520.qmail@hotmail.com> (schumann_k@hotmail.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to PostScript conversion References: <19990831100612.68520.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Does anyone know about a utility/library to convert PDF to PostScript for > NT? Ghostscript can do it. > The tricky part is that I need to call the conversion utility from within > an application server. Meaning I either need a command-line utility or > better a library or a COM interface. Ghostscript can be controlled from the command line, called as a library linked into your application, or called as a DLL. You can find Ghostscript at the URL below. Ghostscript is free to download, use, and give away, but if you want to put it in a commercial product, you need to contact us for a license. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 15:33:10-GMT,1923;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18180 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:33:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20358; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:24:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:22:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20172; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:22:07 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37CBB685.7F175FC1@fast.net> References: <3.0.1.32.19990820075608.006a6594@mallard.duc.auburn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:26:42 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: K Hindall Subject: Re: [PDF] Macintosh Beta Plugins Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> Just released on Adobes web site: > >> Download free beta plug-ins to get Web >> Capture, digital signatures, Send Mail, and more. Got a URL? I looked under Free Downloads and under Betas and didn't see it in either location. Looked under new files, too. Thanks! --K Hindall kkh1@occidens.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 15:35:08-GMT,2121;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18244 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21171; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:31:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:30:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20959; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:30:22 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B6C@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Macintosh Beta Plugins Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:30:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acr4diff.html. > ---------- > From: K Hindall[SMTP:kkh1@occidens.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: [PDF] Macintosh Beta Plugins > > >> Just released on Adobes web site: > > > >> Download free beta plug-ins to get Web > >> Capture, digital signatures, Send Mail, and more. > > Got a URL? I looked under Free Downloads and under Betas and didn't > see it > in either location. Looked under new files, too. > > Thanks! > > --K Hindall > kkh1@occidens.com > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 15:47:03-GMT,2581;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18618 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:47:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22442; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:42:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:41:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22248; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:41:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939BB@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Macintosh Beta Plugins Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:40:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Or try this URL: http://beta1.adobe.com/acrobat_macplugin/download.html -----Original Message----- From: K Hindall [mailto:kkh1@occidens.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:27 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Macintosh Beta Plugins The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> Just released on Adobes web site: > >> Download free beta plug-ins to get Web >> Capture, digital signatures, Send Mail, and more. Got a URL? I looked under Free Downloads and under Betas and didn't see it in either location. Looked under new files, too. Thanks! --K Hindall kkh1@occidens.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 16:07:32-GMT,2775;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19248 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:07:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24524; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:03:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:02:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24386; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:02:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199908311103.LAA07634@smaug.eos.com.pe> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to PostScript conversion Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:04:10 -0500 x-sender: pdf@mail.eos.com.pe x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: roberto To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> Does anyone know about a utility/library to convert PDF to PostScript for >> NT? > >Ghostscript can do it. Can it also do the inverse? Postscript to PDF? >> The tricky part is that I need to call the conversion utility from within >> an application server. Meaning I either need a command-line utility or >> better a library or a COM interface. > >Ghostscript can be controlled from the command line, called as a library >linked into your application, or called as a DLL. > >You can find Ghostscript at the URL below. Ghostscript is free to download, >use, and give away, but if you want to put it in a commercial product, you >need to contact us for a license. What are current versions of Postscript and PDF supported for importing and for exporting? are there any plans or timeframes to release newer versions? it seems to me that Enfocus Doublecheck (that can do both ways) is based partially on Ghostscript... but some limitations are i.e. it doesn't support JPEG compression when distilling, only LZW ... is this a Ghostscript limitation, or only the particular implementation? thanks in advance, -- Roberto Michelena EOS S.A. Lima, Peru _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 16:34:25-GMT,1982;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20232 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:34:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26925; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:29:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:27:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26734; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:27:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jimmy Stewart To: "'pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:30:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there a plug-in or other software which will prevent re-distribution of .PDF files? For example, if I sell a book as a .PDF file on the web, is there a way to encrypt a key or code which would allow the buyer to open the .PDF file, but prevent anyone to whom the buyer may give a copy of the file from opening it? Thank you. Jimmy Stewart _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 16:46:33-GMT,5057;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20591 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:46:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28149; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:41:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:40:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27994; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:40:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:44:18 -0700 Message-Id: <199908311644.JAA03706@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <199908311103.LAA07634@smaug.eos.com.pe> (message from roberto on Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:04:10 -0500) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to PostScript conversion References: <199908311103.LAA07634@smaug.eos.com.pe> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > What are current versions of Postscript and PDF supported for importing > and for exporting? are there any plans or timeframes to release newer > versions? The current release, Aladdin Ghostscript 5.50, imports PostScript Level 2 (with a few LanguageLevel 3 features) and PDF 1.2 (with some PDF 1.3 features); it exports a subset of PostScript Level 2 and of PDF 1.2 or 1.3 (but using very few 1.3 features), selectable with a command line switch. However, it converts all fonts other than the base 14 to bitmapped Type 3s. Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0, which started beta test 10 days ago and is scheduled for release in early October, supports PostScript LanguageLevel 3 (except for true separated color) and PDF 1.3 (with a couple of minor exceptions) for input; for output, it supports the same formats, but the PDF writer handles fonts properly (producing embedded, embedded subset, and non-embedded under the appropriate circumstances, both Type 1 and TrueType) and converts a wider variety of pdfmarks. It doesn't handle the new PDF 1.3 "document structure" pdfmarks. > it seems to me that Enfocus Doublecheck (that can do both ways) is based > partially on Ghostscript... I don't know about this specific product, but Enfocus does have a commercial Ghostscript license. > but some limitations are i.e. it doesn't support JPEG compression when > distilling, only LZW ... is this a Ghostscript limitation, or only the > particular implementation? Ghostscript does not support LZW compression for output because of Unisys's handling of the Welch patent. (For Unisys's latest and, in my opinion, most outrageous attempt to collect license fees based on this patent, see http://corp2.unisys.com/LeadStory/lzw-license.html . If you are considering getting a license, I strongly recommend not doing so until you have gotten your own attorney's opinion as to the soundness of Unisys's position that a license is required.) If Enfocus has gotten a LZW license from Unisys, I don't know anything about it. Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0 supports the full range of Distiller image compression and downsampling parameters, except that it does not support the Dict or ACSDict parameters for JPEG compression (it always uses the default parameters), and ignores AntiAlias, AutoFilter, AutoRotatePages, and the Preserve and Info parameters. Ghostscript 5.50 supports most of these parameters, including JPEG compression, but since I'm not familiar with the Enfocus products, I don't know whether they provide a way to enable using it. Aside from LZW compression, which we do not plan to implement, we currently plan to implement all of the above unfinished odds and ends in Aladdin Ghostscript 7.0, currently planned for release in Q3 of next year (2000). We'll be happy to consider moving this schedule up if someone wants to fund the work on a contract basis, rather than waiting for us to do it in the normal course of product development. If you would like to help test Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0's PDF-writing capabilities, please e-mail us privately. We would very much like to have more testers for the PDF writer, which, along with PostScript LL3, was our major focus for this release. Thanks - L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 18:40:43-GMT,2865;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23963 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:40:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04602; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:33:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:30:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04239; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:30:44 -0500 Message-ID: <025c01bef3de$e7a48240$8e462099@corp.adobe.com> From: "Phil Ydens" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:30:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Check out: http://cgi1.adobe.com/acrobat/webbuy/webbuybeta.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmy Stewart To: Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:30 AM Subject: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Is there a plug-in or other software which will prevent re-distribution of > .PDF files? > > For example, if I sell a book as a .PDF file on the web, is there a way to > encrypt a key or code which would allow the buyer to open the .PDF file, but > prevent anyone to whom the buyer may give a copy of the file from opening > it? > > Thank you. > Jimmy Stewart > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San an -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 19:03:40-GMT,4115;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24640 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:03:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06562; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:55:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:53:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06420; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:53:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:50:18 -0700 Message-ID: <001843CB.1343@seatimes.com> From: jrackerby@seatimes.com (Jayson Rackerby) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Making media box match bounding box Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.916521639" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --IMA.Boundary.916521639 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Howdy all: I've read, unsuccessfully, the Acrobat 4.0 help documents and scoured Adobe's web site for a way to make a cropped PDF's "margins" the page size. So I must inquire on this list: "Is there a way to change a PDF's media box to that of the current margins or crop?" In our proofing system all of the extraneous information (i.e. registration marks, agency info, file name/date, etc.) that we've cropped out prints. While this isn't a total show stopper it is messy and occasionally confusing. Tks Jayson Support Analyst, Ops - The Seattle Times Company --IMA.Boundary.916521639 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from seatimes-fw1.seatimes.com (192.251.219.14) by ccmail.seatimes.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 0017D42B; Tue, 24 Aug 99 03:53:58 -0700 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by seatimes-fw1.seatimes.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22812 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA03942; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:47:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:46:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA03891; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:46:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199908241046.DAA42898@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:46:24 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] ouch. i've been bit, too. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Dov Isaacs , Bob Greene , Tom Mornini Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com --IMA.Boundary.916521639-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 20:36:40-GMT,3739;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27294 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:36:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14466; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:29:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:27:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14310; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:27:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199908312027.NAA24929@mail-321.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:43:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web From: "Jordan Dea-Mattson" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA14306 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Jimmy - You might want to check out the following announcement from Adobe: Adobe Systems Unveils New Technologies Aimed at Burgeoning eBooks Market Barnes & Noble, Everybook, Fatbrain.com, Glassbook, Iomega, Pearson, R.R. Donnelley, Simon & Schuster, Xerox Among First to Integrate Adobe PDF Merchant; Acrobat Reader with Web Buy Seybold, San Francisco (August 31, 1999) (NASDAQ: ADBE)-Adobe Systems Incorporated today announced pre-release availability of two new technologies, AdobeŽ PDF Merchant software and Web Buy, a feature within AcrobatŽ Reader, to its partners for testing and product integration. The technologies will enable publishers, distributors, retailers and others to make electronic content available for distribution and sale over the Internet. The company expects Adobe PDF Merchant and Acrobat Reader software with Web Buy to speed the adoption of eBooks and the use of electronic documents among businesses and consumers. Yours, Jordan ---------- >From: Jimmy Stewart >To: "'pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web >Date: Tue, Aug 31, 1999, 9:30 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Is there a plug-in or other software which will prevent re-distribution of > .PDF files? > > For example, if I sell a book as a .PDF file on the web, is there a way to > encrypt a key or code which would allow the buyer to open the .PDF file, but > prevent anyone to whom the buyer may give a copy of the file from opening > it? > > Thank you. > Jimmy Stewart > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 21:01:47-GMT,2628;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27950 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:01:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16597; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:56:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:54:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16463; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:54:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:42:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Making media box match bounding box From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: jrackerby@seatimes.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990831205430.RAKV5161.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Howdy all: > > I've read, unsuccessfully, the Acrobat 4.0 help documents and scoured > Adobe's web site for a way to make a cropped PDF's "margins" the page > size. So I must inquire on this list: "Is there a way to change a > PDF's media box to that of the current margins or crop?" > > In our proofing system all of the extraneous information (i.e. > registration marks, agency info, file name/date, etc.) that we've > cropped out prints. While this isn't a total show stopper it is messy > and occasionally confusing. > Open the document, and set the cropmarks under the document tab in Acrobat to hide your crops and show only the image areas. Set this for all pages or do specific settings for every page if you wish. Nothing is ever lost, just hidden until needed, when you just reset the crops to the outer edges. Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflow Specialist, especially PDF _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 21:59:53-GMT,1837;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29771 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:59:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21272; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:53:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:51:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21024; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: <37CC4D79.EFA7DB72@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:47:38 -0700 From: two turtles Organization: Two Turtles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04C-PBI-NC404 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] mpg files on pdfs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have placed some video files onto a pdf as a mpg file. When I play the video from the pdf file on Mac - no problem. But when I print the files to cd for the PC, the PC wants to see a .mov or .avi file. On my knees! Two turtles _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 22:43:25-GMT,2385;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00889 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:43:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24878; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:39:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:37:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24728; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:37:49 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:37:19 -0500 From: "Paul Kevin Schulte" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: Acrobat Reader - Stamping on print capability - Reply Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ snipped We are storing PDF documents within a Intranet based PDM system, and for QS9000 purposes we need to differentiate between the Master (the PDF document on the computer screen) and any Copies made (any printed copies of these PDF files printed on any local printer). end snippage I believe there are several Acrobat plugins that will watermark a PDF. Try: http://www.DigApp.com/ for one source. Also, you can try: http://www.docctrl.com/ for another solution. And for yet a PDM specifiec solution: http://www.preview.com/ They have specifically integrated with PDM systems to add this functionality to all viewers (CAD included), not just PDF. Paul K. Schulte Configuration Assurance Medtronic, Inc. 7000 Central Avenue N.E. MS: B413 Minneapolis, MN 55432 Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 31-Aug-1999 22:48:36-GMT,3054;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01016 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:48:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25459; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:44:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:43:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25369; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:43:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990831184804.0091bb40@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:48:04 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: [PDF] Word Wonkiness and Acrobat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ As a FWIW to any Word97 users ... NT4, SP3 (SP5 later applied), Office97 SP1, Acrobat 3. At some point, Word97 on one of my machines went semi-wacko. It generally behaved normally, but every attempt to insert a hyperlink brought up Dr. Watson. It later turned out that the same was true in Excel and PowerPoint. I grumbled about this to some astute Word-wizards I know and (being Word Wizards) they pounded me for using PDF in the first place. Much lighthearted badinage ensued, comments about Bill's Mom, stuff like that. One of them suggested that, levity aside, they really had had some problems with Word that didn't clear up until they uninstalled Acrobat. I allowed as to how I thought maybe I'd uninstall Word instead, but did decide to have a go at ditching PDFMaker and lo, the problem went away. No more waking up poor Dr. Watson in the middle of the night. And lo again, after I reinstalled PDFMaker, the problem didn't come back. AND Word now fires up about three times as fast as it did before. Haven't a clue why this should be; the PDFMaker readme mentions that there have been occasional problems when you uninstall/reinstall Acrobat after installing PDFMaker. It's possible that I did this. Don't really know. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 2:22:39-GMT,2225;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05791 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:22:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA06986; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:16:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:13:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06831; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:13:54 -0500 Message-ID: <37CC8BF1.5D18EEBC@facstaff.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:14:09 -0500 From: Theodore A Peterson Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jimmy Stewart wrote: > Is there a plug-in or other software which will prevent re-distribution of > .PDF files? > > Jim... You might check the URL for a merchandising network > solution. > > > > > _______________ _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 2:30:12-GMT,1825;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05982 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:30:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07692; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:25:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:24:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07594; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:24:50 -0500 From: TerryFCSI@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:24:05 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There is NO security for PDF's all you have to do is print it to a .ps file and any security you applied is removed. If you allow the printing of the document you allow people to have access to all pictures and text. Adobe thinks this is perfectly allright. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 2:43:55-GMT,2210;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA06242 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:43:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08653; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:39:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:38:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA08574; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:38:20 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E1FF33E@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Richard Crocker To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:37:05 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > There is NO security for PDF's all you have to do is print it > to a .ps file and any security you applied is removed. If you allow the > printing of the document you allow people to have access to all pictures > and text. I think File Open secures and stops the 'Print to file' option http://www.fileopen.com/ Adobe announced the prerelease of Webbuy today. This handles security. Perhaps it will handle print restriction? http://cgi1.adobe.com/acrobat/webbuy/webbuybeta.html Regards, Richard Crocker rich@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com A Round Table Solution _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 6:57:58-GMT,3417;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11813 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 00:57:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23452; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 01:28:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 01:26:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23309; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 01:26:17 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: [PDF] No EPS Export in Acrobat Exchange 3.02 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:15:11 +0530 Message-ID: <01bef445$899fbae0$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi I just installed Acrobat Exchange 3.02. The "Export" sub-menu in "File" does not show the EPS option. Is the EPS export a Plug-in? What could be wrong?? Earlier I was using Acrobat 4.0 which had no such problem. Any help would be appreciated. Khullar ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Surf to the top. Visit www.summitindia.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- -----Original Message----- From: Richard Crocker To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: 01 September 1999 08:20 Subject: RE: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >> There is NO security for PDF's all you have to do is print it >> to a .ps file and any security you applied is removed. If you allow the >> printing of the document you allow people to have access to all pictures >> and text. > >I think File Open secures and stops the 'Print to file' option >http://www.fileopen.com/ > >Adobe announced the prerelease of Webbuy today. This handles security. >Perhaps it will handle print restriction? >http://cgi1.adobe.com/acrobat/webbuy/webbuybeta.html > >Regards, >Richard Crocker >rich@planetpdf.com >http://www.planetpdf.com >A Round Table Solution > > > >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> >-<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> >________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 9:51:33-GMT,1709;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14930 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 03:51:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03208; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 04:46:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 04:44:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03092; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 04:44:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Avhad Ankush-FSGA1923 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Linking PDF and HTML Help Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:44:14 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2580.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello mentors, Can I insert PDF files within an HTML help topic and hyperlink to it? Regs./Ankush _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 12:10:54-GMT,3216;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17571 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 06:10:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12009; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:05:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:01:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11661; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:01:10 -0500 From: "Ken Silver" To: Subject: [PDF] White screen problems. Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:03:14 +1200 Message-ID: <000001bef471$f80f8100$ecf131ca@ksilver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37CC8BF1.5D18EEBC@facstaff.wisc.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have just completed a 410-page manual in Pagemaker 6.5 Plus on my PC, and produced a PDF with Distiller 4.0. At this stage, it looks perfectly OK. But after I upload it to my site, then download it to check, I get either the "white screen of death" or a password dialogue box. I have followed the earlier thread on this problem. One of the suggestions was to clear the cache and zip the file - I've done both, but get the same result. Complicating this whole process is the fact that my PC program - Claris HomePage - has a bug which prevents me uploading the file to my site from it. So I am using Fetch on my Mac to complete it. (Anyone have a suggestion for a reliable FTP program?) And in order to get my PDF file on to the Mac, I have to email it there as an attachment. Once again, when I open the attachment on the Mac the file is perfect. A previous PDF uploaded in the same way has worked well, so this has me scratching my head - all day as it happens :-( I have run out of options in this rather convoluted process. Can anyone help? I notice there were no definitive answers for the last white screen problem... maybe something's happened since then. Ken Silver ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Digital Book Author http://www.ksilver.com Member of the Self Publishing Association of New Zealand Join me on the Ken Silver Online Forum: http://network54.com/Forum/11488 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 12:59:53-GMT,2328;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18563 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 06:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15290; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:52:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:50:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15116; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:50:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199909011250.HAA15110@everglades.binc.net> Date: 01 Sep 99 08:51:25 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] No EPS Export in Acrobat Exchange 3.02 To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA15112 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] No EPS Export in Acrobat Exchange 3.02 >I just installed Acrobat Exchange 3.02. >The "Export" sub-menu in "File" does not show the EPS option. >Is the EPS export a Plug-in? >What could be wrong?? > >Earlier I was using Acrobat 4.0 which had no such problem. >Any help would be appreciated. Yes, you are correct. If you are on the Mac goto: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4f22.htm For Windows goto: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4f26.htm Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 13:03:45-GMT,2168;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18656 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:03:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15899; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:58:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:57:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15807; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:57:35 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B72@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'" , "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] TrueType Font options in PS driver Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:57:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a Word97 document that I printed to a HP LaserJet 5SiMX PS driver in Windows NT, for use with Distiller. On the driver's TrueType Font options, when I chose "Download as Softfont," which I thought was the proper thing to do to embed the fonts, I could not search on the PDF text, and when I copied that text to the clipboard and pasted it into a Notepad document, it was gibberish. When I changed the option to "Substitute with Device Font," the problems went away. Has anyone else had any experience with this? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 14:00:04-GMT,2340;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19891 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:59:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20581; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:55:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:53:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20458; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:53:19 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E1FF33E@mail.roundtable.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 06:07:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: RE: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Just to confirm Richard's replies below, reps from both FileLock and the new WebBuy system from FatBrain told us here at Seybold yesterday that they can restrict print to disk' printing. rgds ~ Kurt | PDFzone.com _____ >> There is NO security for PDF's all you have to do is print it >> to a .ps file and any security you applied is removed. If you allow the >> printing of the document you allow people to have access to all pictures >> and text. > >I think File Open secures and stops the 'Print to file' option >http://www.fileopen.com/ > >Adobe announced the prerelease of Webbuy today. This handles security. >Perhaps it will handle print restriction? >http://cgi1.adobe.com/acrobat/webbuy/webbuybeta.html _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 14:09:40-GMT,3167;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20142 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:09:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA22112; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:08:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:04:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21542; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:04:07 -0500 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 06:39:22 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com, PDFdev@lists.pdfzone.com, PDF-Basics@lists.pdfzone.com, Capture@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDFdev] 'PDFzone Postcards' to/from "PDF Day!" Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ It's "PDF Day" here at the Seybold Conference in SF, with a full day of Acrobat/PDF-centric presentations beginning in a few hours. As sponsors of PDF Day, Seybold's most popular program, PDFzone.com will be on hand -- to say hello to the assembled enthusiasts, and to provide coverage of the day's events for those not able to be here. Also, we've set up an experimental "PDF Postcards" project in conjunction with Originalab, based in Sweden. You can build a one-or two-page card in PDF on-the-fly, then email it directly by entering the recipient's address in a simple form. The file sizes are around 20 kb per card, so they are easy to send as email attachments ( but please don't send them to a discussion list address). There are some special graphics in a secured area that can be used in creating these PDFzone Postcards. To send a card, go to the Originalab site at: http://www.originalab.se/ Go to the 3B2Online section of their site (both English and Swedish versions)... then go to the Greeting Cards section. In the illustrations menu for the greeting cards (both "single" and "double" cards) there is a heading "PDFzone"that contains select illustrations and the PDFzone.com logo. The "PDFzone" heading is password-protected; the password is my first name--> kurt Give it a try, and send PDF Day DF'99 cards to your Acrobat-savvy friends. And if you'd like, send one to ; we'll post some of them to PDFzone.com. More later today ~ Kurt | PDFzone.com @ Seybold SF'99 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage includes live PDF Day updates from CA -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 14:18:01-GMT,2159;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20372 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:17:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22785; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:13:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:12:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22640; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:12:20 -0500 From: rick.sapir@glbsoft.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:41:50 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How to automate Page Renumbering Receipt-Requested-To: rick.sapir@gsntone.glbsoft.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221040958/221001528/221100226/300440919/ Message-Id: <99Sep1.101219edt.34572@gateway.glbsoft.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA22633 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there a way to automate the page renumbering functionality in Acrobat 4.0? I like the ability to re-paginate the PDF to match my paper document (table of contents using roman number, sections starting on page 1-1, 2-1, etc.), but is there some way to automate this? Or can I send a /PDFMARK in my PS file before I distill that sets this information? I'm using FrameMaker 5.5 and Acrobat 4.0 on Windows. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 15:36:54-GMT,2277;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22514 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:36:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30790; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:30:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:29:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30567; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:29:27 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Distilling Error Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:32:22 -0400 x-sender: geoffm@smtp.novainc.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Geoff Manning To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1275926351-40804689@216.41.19.3> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I was wondering if anyone has come accross this error in Distiller 4.0. %%[ Error: undefinedresult; OffendingCommand: shfill ]%% Stack: [/DeviceCMYK] 100 50 0 0 -mark- -mark- -mark- 5 %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% It occurs when an Illustrator file (version 7.0 or higher) contains a gradient filled in a hairline area. It causes the error and flushes the document. It can be distilled fine using Distiller 3.0. Has anyone seen this error or is aware of a fix or workaround? Any info will help. ____________________ Geoff Manning Nova Marketing Production Dept. Quincy, MA 02169 617-770-0304 Ext. 26 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 14:59:13-GMT,2031;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21398 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:59:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26531; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:54:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:52:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26361; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:52:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990901105728.0091c2b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:57:28 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] No EPS Export in Acrobat Exchange 3.02 In-Reply-To: <01bef445$899fbae0$02c802c0@workstation> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The "Export" sub-menu in "File" does not show the EPS option. >Is the EPS export a Plug-in? Yes. You can download it from www.adobe.com at no charge. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 15:07:37-GMT,3271;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21630 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:07:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27341; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:01:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:00:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27050; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:00:22 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990901110515.008d4e40@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:05:15 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] White screen problems. In-Reply-To: <000001bef471$f80f8100$ecf131ca@ksilver> References: <37CC8BF1.5D18EEBC@facstaff.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Complicating this whole process is the fact that my PC program - >Claris HomePage - has a bug which prevents me uploading the file to my >site from it. So I am using Fetch on my Mac to complete it. (Anyone >have a suggestion for a reliable FTP program?) > I've got links to a couple nice ones on my site. http://www.rdpslides.com and click the link on the first page to How to send us files (or some such wording). You'll find links to WS-FTP and a couple others embedded in the page that takes you to. If you're not C:prompt-averse, you already have everything you need. Hop to a DOS prompt , CD to the folder where the files you want to U/L are stored and type: FTP myftpsite (substitute the name of your fpt server) You'll be prompted to log in (username & password) Type: CD /my/fpt/folder (substitute the real directory path) Type: BIN (you want BINary transfers) Type: HASH (to get hash marks as a progress indicator) Type: BEL (if you want the PC to beep at the end of each file xfer) Type: PUT myfile.ext (substitute the name of the file you want to u/l) or: PUT myfile.ext targetfile.ext (rename the file to something else during xfer) or: PUT myfile.ext myfile.ext (to make sure WinBob doesn't change the capitalization of the filename behind your back) When done, type: BYE Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 15:07:46-GMT,2116;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21628 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27488; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:02:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:01:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27274; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:01:19 -0500 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:06:15 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bef48b$899aaf00$438799d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ WebBuy sounds like a great idea, but I've tried two of the sample documents without success. Both document attempts display as blank pages with random text for bookmarks. It looks like what I would expect if I didn't get the unlock key. I followed all the steps and tried two different samples. Has anyone else had luck? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 15:33:02-GMT,2359;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22359 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30045; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:25:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:23:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29817; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:23:42 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B76@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'" , "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Quincy error using Acrobat Distiller Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:23:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm not certain why, but today, when I print from Microsoft Word97 to the Acrobat Distiller driver in Windows NT 4.0, the Distiller icon pops up in the System Tray, then I get a Quincy for Win32 error that reads: An application error has occurred and a NOTES.RIP file is being generated in: AcroDist.exe Exception: access violation (0xc0000005), AddressL 0x77f8f966 The Distiller icon in the System Tray remains, even though the process stops. The only way to get the icon to go away is to go into Task Manager and kill the AcroTray.exe process (and then restart it). The really weird thing is, it worked fine yesterday. I've tried rebooting, etc. and it happens over and over. What could have happened? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 18:20:22-GMT,2135;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27281 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:20:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14744; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:12:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:11:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14570; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:11:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:11:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Diana Holm To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Jimmy Stewart Subject: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jimmy, FileOpen PDF 2.2, currently available, will secure your PDFs for Web distribution as well as control access to printing. The product contains advanced printing restrictions which prevent re-distilling of PDFs as well as limit the number and duration of print privileges. Please contact me off-list for more information and please visit our web site where you can download an evaluation version, www.fileopen.com. Best, Diana Holm Director of Marketing FileOpen Systems Inc. 101 W. 85th St. #1-4 New York, NY 10024 212-501-9567 www.fileopen.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 18:20:30-GMT,2965;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27292 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:20:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14500; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:11:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:07:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14178; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:07:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distilling Error Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:09:55 -0400 x-sender: geoffm@smtp.novainc.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Geoff Manning To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1275913298-41589972@216.41.19.3> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Let me try to explain, take a piece of uncolored lineart and select an area with a white fill. Now, from the Edit menu choose Select Same Fill Color. Everything that is filled white will now be selected. Along with the big white areas that are selected, there are very little 'specs' also selected. These are also filled with white. If you apply a gradient to these little 'specs' Distiller 4.0 cannot render them so it comes up with an error. I have heard that Illustrator 6.0 and earlier completely disregard these small gradients when saving and will not cause any problems when it is placed and Distilled. Same with Distiller 3.0, it doesn't try to read these small gradients. I'm guessing the issue is that Distiller 4.0 IS trying to render these gradients and is causing the error. I Hope This Helps. 9/1/99 1:29 PM >Geoff Manning wrote: > >> It occurs when an Illustrator file (version 7.0 or higher) contains a >> gradient filled in a hairline area. > >Geoff, > >Can you explain what you mean by "gradient filled in a hairline area"? >I'm not clear on that but I'd like to try to help you out. > >Regards, >Samantha > >-- >___________________________________________ >Samantha M. Bailey | Software Test Engineer >425.355.6655 | http://www.scenicsoft.com ____________________ Geoff Manning Nova Marketing Production Dept. Quincy, MA 02169 617-770-0304 Ext. 26 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 19:06:44-GMT,2353;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28494 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18711; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:59:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:57:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18567; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:57:58 -0500 X-Sender: suec@tsmail.tshore.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001bef471$f80f8100$ecf131ca@ksilver> References: <37CC8BF1.5D18EEBC@facstaff.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: suec@tshore.com (Sue Campbell) Subject: Re: [PDF] White screen problems. Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:57:55 -0400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >At this stage, it looks perfectly OK. But after I upload it to my >site, then download it to check, I get either the "white screen of >death" or a password dialogue box. If you mean that the pages are completely blank, we occasionally have this problem. We use Fetch and as long as we get the file using "Binary" then we get the type, if we inadvertantly use automatic then we get blank pages. Hope this helps, Sue ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sue Campbell Training & Production Coordinator Thomson-Shore, Inc. 734.426.6293 http://www.tshore.com "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goals" -Unknown _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 20:04:20-GMT,2298;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00047 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:04:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23296; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:52:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:49:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22891; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:49:26 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990901120149.01393b30@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:04:54 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Re: Making media box match bounding box In-Reply-To: <199909011523.KAA29839@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Ari's Crop Helper, which is sold as part of Ari's Power Bundle, will set the page size (MediaBox) to the crop size (CropBox) for all pages in a single document or batch of docs. http://www.dionis.com If items that are cropped out still print, then they may continue to print after the page size is set to the crop size. Changing the MediaBox does not remove any drawing operators that fall outside the page, they just get ignored. But, as you discovered with cropping, it is possible that they may not be ignored and accidentally still get printed. Best Regards, Daniel-Ari Feinberg Dionis _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 20:14:23-GMT,2702;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00391 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:14:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24507; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:07:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:05:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24313; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:05:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Kelly Chenik To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Very Strange Acrobat Problem Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:03:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello All - Thanks for your help... I've been using Acrobat Exchange 3.01 operating under Windows 95. Everything runs well, except the buttons in the toolbar show as simple green boxes, without any icon or text to show their function. After a few seconds of mouse-over, the drop-down help boxes appear as they should to show the function of the button, but the buttons themselves always show as simple green outlines. I have uninstalled the complete Acrobat suite many times, using the Uninstall Feature as well as manual removal following Adobe's instructions, and subsequently re-installed without success. As I mentioned, everything else seems to work perfectly.....Even the buttons (such as they are) function normally when you push them..... I should probably mention that this system is actually a Macintosh G3 running Windows 95 under the Softwindows emulator. However, Acrobat was working perfectly (including the buttons) for several months, until they suddenly disappeared one day. I cannot recall any type of system corruption or other problem that preceeded this Acrobat button problem. Thanks again... KC, Irvine CA _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1999 20:42:27-GMT,1998;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01222 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:42:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27065; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:36:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:33:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26863; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:33:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199909012033.PAA26858@everglades.binc.net> Date: 01 Sep 99 16:33:26 -0400 From: Roberta Pavol Subject: [PDF] QuickLinx To: PDF email list X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA26859 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Memo SubjectuickLinx 9/1/99 4:30 PM We are using a product called QuickLinx (which is no longer on the market) in our Exchange 3 documents to create links and bookmarks. If anyone is familiar with this, is there an alternative that will work with Acrobat 4? Thanks in advance. Roberta _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 0:08:07-GMT,2078;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07194 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:08:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11395; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:04:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:00:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10908; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:00:20 -0500 Message-ID: <37CDBCC7.A772F09D@wt.net> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 18:54:47 -0500 From: Rick Bishop Organization: PRP_Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Quincy error using Acrobat Distiller References: <199909011523.KAA29839@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Gary: Do a 'find' on your local system for " qnc.exe " When you find it, delete immediately. This serves no useful purpose except to interrupt other applications. Also delete all the notes.rip files it generated. Quincy was supposed to generate data on packet intercepts for Lotus notes administrators. It doesn't work well, so no Notes Admin monitors it. Dump it and good riddance. Rick Bishop Houston _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 1:09:30-GMT,2652;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08623 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:09:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16441; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:04:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:03:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16247; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:03:03 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01bef415$e16f2240$be61513e@none.servicom.es> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] QuickLinx Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 03:04:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You can try InfoLinker. Contact Mr. Jose Mera for further info. His cordinates are: Jose Mera Alliant Defense Electronics Systems, Inc. 13133 34th Street N. Clearwater, Florida 33762 Tel: 727-572-2491 Fax: 727-572-2169 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com It may be a solution for what you want. Hope helps. Regards, Carlos Gonzalez ************************************************************************************************ La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos González Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel.: 915 344 348 Fax.: 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************************************************ >We are using a product called QuickLinx (which is no longer on the market) in our Exchange 3 documents to create links and bookmarks. >If anyone is familiar with this, is there an alternative that will work with Acrobat 4? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 1:49:24-GMT,2118;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09470 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:49:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19630; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:43:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:42:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19498; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:42:22 -0500 Message-ID: <19990902014208.1633.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [203.11.192.243] From: "Sally Jenkins" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Plugins Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:42:07 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi! My organisation is planning to scan over 200,000 documents into electronic PDF format. Some of our documents have handwritten remarks on them in amongst the computer text. My query is about OCR. We want the files to be fully text searchable once we post them on our intranet. What Acrobat feature or third party plug-in will allow us to recognise handwriting during the OCR process so that we can also search handwritten remarks as well as text on the intranet? Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 2:10:39-GMT,2532;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09927 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:10:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21329; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:04:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:03:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21156; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:03:00 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:09:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Plugins Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>>>> My organisation is planning to scan over 200,000 documents into electronic PDF format. Some of our documents have handwritten remarks on them in amongst the computer text. My query is about OCR. We want the files to be fully text searchable once we post them on our intranet. What Acrobat feature or third party plug-in will allow us to recognise handwriting during the OCR process so that we can also search handwritten remarks as well as text on the intranet? <<<<<< Check the following website to see if this is how you want your intranet to work. http://www.canadiana.org/ This site has Old Books Scanned and searchable by word. Yeilds a list with hits and links to pages with word searched. Takes you to image that can be read on-line with that page downloadable in PDF format. Wouldn't mind comment from the list to whether this kind of site operation can be achieved without more complex programming such has PERL, CGI, etc. I would think the search engine would be more complex instructions. Thanks Murray McCombs _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 2:20:00-GMT,2738;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10139 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:19:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22380; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:16:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:14:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22260; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:14:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 22:02:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickLinx From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990902021410.FAHY24489.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try http://www.dionis.com I highlt recommend all the plugins, they have saved us thousands of hours... Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF ---------- >From: Roberta Pavol >To: PDF email list >Subject: [PDF] QuickLinx >Date: Wed, Sep 1, 1999, 4:33 PM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Memo SubjectuickLinx 9/1/99 4:30 PM > We are using a product called QuickLinx (which is no longer on the market) > in our Exchange 3 documents to create links and bookmarks. > If anyone is familiar with this, is there an alternative that will work > with Acrobat 4? > > Thanks in advance. > > Roberta > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 5:25:17-GMT,2118;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14189 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:25:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04261; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:21:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:18:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04088; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:18:32 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: [PDF] Distilling files for Linotronic Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:08:30 +0530 Message-ID: <01bef505$634d6250$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am unable to distil PS file created with the linotronic driver (The idea is only to preview the files before sending it to the bureau) distiller gives serverdict exitserver errors Is there a workaround to make the distiller ignore such errors? Any other program that previews Linotronic files. I tried using GhostScript's GS View, but that to gives the same problem. Any solution? Acrobatic or otherwise? khullar _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 7:32:37-GMT,4245;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17141 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 01:32:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13182; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:27:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:25:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13059; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:25:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199909020725.IAA25077@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 8:7:0 +0000 To: " pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: Re: [PDF] Distilling files for Linotronic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ RE>[PDF] Distilling files for Linotronic 2/9/99 HELLO KHULLAR, FIRSTLY WHAT LINOTRONIC DRIVER ARE YOU USING, AS I SOME TIMES USE A LINOTRONIC DRIVER AND DISTILLING IS FINE. IT WOULD BE QUICKER TO GET BACK TO ME VIA MY DIRECT EMAIL stuart.slaney@william-reed.co.uk AS I AM AWAY AT THE PRESENT TIME FROM MY MAC. -------------------------------------- Date: 2/9/99 7:54 am To: Stuart Slaney From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am unable to distil PS file created with the linotronic driver (The idea is only to preview the files before sending it to the bureau) distiller gives serverdict exitserver errors Is there a workaround to make the distiller ignore such errors? Any other program that previews Linotronic files. I tried using GhostScript's GS View, but that to gives the same problem. Any solution? Acrobatic or otherwise? khullar _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ [Message ID: -1275863655] [Internet header:] Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by barsac.ipl.co.uk (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA02176 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:24:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04106; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:18:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:18:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04088; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:18:32 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: [PDF] Distilling files for Linotronic Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:08:30 +0530 Message-ID: <01bef505$634d6250$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 8:07:45-GMT,2044;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17834 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:07:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA15231; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 03:00:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:59:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA15144; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:59:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199909020759.IAA25240@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 8:37:7 +0000 To: "PDFZONE PDFZONE" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: [PDF] SCREEN ANGLE PROBLEMS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ SCREEN ANGLE PROBLEMS HELLO ALL, ANY SUGGESTIONS TO THIS PROBLEM: WHEN I PLACE A DCS2 BITMAP FILE IN A QUARK DOCUMENT ALONG WITH THE USUAL PLACED IMAGES AND TYPE, THEN DISTILL IT IN DISTILLER 4 AS A SEPERATED PDF. WHEN THE PRINTERS RUN THE FILM OUT IT PRODUCES 4 BITS OF FILM ALL ON 45 DEGREE ANGLES. BUT IF THEY JUST RUN THE SEPERATED POSTSCRIPT OUT TO FILM IT IS ALL OK. KIND REGARDS STUART --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 8:39:12-GMT,2429;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA18435 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:39:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17540; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 03:35:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 03:33:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17431; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 03:33:34 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990902102941.00a85690@popmail.iol.it> X-Sender: dolcemascolo@popmail.iol.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 10:37:46 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: studio D Subject: [PDF] Best distiller 4.0 settings for digital printing with AGFA CHROMAPRESS? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I'm new to distiller 4.01 (I used distiller 3.02, before) and I see there are settings for managing better colors in PDF. I read all Adobe documents on his site, but no one is talking about digital printing. What about color profiles? Do I need to embed them in the PDF to make my service print correctly my PDFs? What about bitmaps on a documents (CMYK or RGB)? Is there someone outputting PDFs to an AGFA CHROMAPRESS system? I tried to search for info in the AGFA website but there was only a link to the AGFA CHROMAPRESS USERGROUP web site; the latter is closed to non member users. Why AGFA is so jealous about sharing info about AGFA CHROMAPRESS? Who knows.... all they obtain is to make users like me to go elsewhere (INDIGO system...). Any suggestion? Tony _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 11:50:17-GMT,2383;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21971 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 05:50:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA30354; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:42:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:40:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA30029; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:40:31 -0500 From: "Lars Hoj" To: Subject: [PDF] Uanble to extract the embedded font... Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:36:30 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Quite often, but not always(!) Acrobat 4.0 presents the message "Unable to extract the embedded font XXX. Some characters may not display or print correctly." That is to put it gently: the characters simply disappear. The fonts are rather special fonts, but I do have the fonts installed on my system. The pdf's are Mac produced, and I'm using a PC. Any ideas? Kind regards Lars Hoej LARS HOEJ Informatik - Baunestien 4, DK-3460 Birkeroed, Denmark Tel +45 4582 8500 . Fax +45 4582 85 01 . Private +45 4582 8510 . Mobile +45 4041 8511 mailto:lars@lhi.dk - http://www.lhi.dk _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 1:09:44-GMT,3009;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08633 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:09:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16104; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:01:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:00:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15894; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:00:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199909020100.SAA00908@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 13:05:55-GMT,2076;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23574 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:05:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04361; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:57:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:53:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04027; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:53:47 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Cc: Subject: Re: [PDF] Distilling files for Linotronic Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:43:17 +0530 Message-ID: <01bef544$ebd4b6c0$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is the Linotronic 330 Driver of Windows NT khullar >HELLO KHULLAR, > >FIRSTLY WHAT LINOTRONIC DRIVER ARE YOU USING, AS I SOME TIMES USE A >LINOTRONIC DRIVER AND DISTILLING IS FINE. > >IT WOULD BE QUICKER TO GET BACK TO ME VIA MY DIRECT EMAIL >stuart.slaney@william-reed.co.uk AS I AM AWAY AT THE PRESENT TIME FROM >MY MAC. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 13:21:49-GMT,2657;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23920 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:21:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05810; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:13:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:12:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05659; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:12:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990902091657.008cd3a0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 09:16:57 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Uanble to extract the embedded font... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >"Unable to extract the embedded font XXX. Some characters may not >display or print correctly." > >That is to put it gently: the characters simply disappear. >The fonts are rather special fonts, but I do have the fonts >installed on my system. > > >The pdf's are Mac produced, and I'm using a PC. > If the fonts were embedded when the PDF was produced on the Mac, you probably wouldn't have this problem. Acrobat seems able to sort out encoding differences between PC and Mac very nicely so long as the fonts are embedded. I've got a file on my site that explains this in more detail. Anonymous ftp to rdpslides.com and look for ENCODING.PDF or point your browser at ftp://rdpslides.com/members/rdp Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 13:29:08-GMT,3436;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24086 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:29:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06799; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:25:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:24:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06705; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:24:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939CB@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Uanble to extract the embedded font... Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:22:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Although, what's up with the new Euro character in TrueType fonts (haven't been able to find a Type 1 font with this character yet)-in Reader 3 or Exchange 3 on a Mac, it won't display, even though the font (Symbol in this case) is embedded & subset at 100%. Anyone? Todd Reid -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rindsberg [mailto:steve@rdpslides.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 7:17 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Uanble to extract the embedded font... The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >"Unable to extract the embedded font XXX. Some characters may not >display or print correctly." > >That is to put it gently: the characters simply disappear. >The fonts are rather special fonts, but I do have the fonts >installed on my system. > > >The pdf's are Mac produced, and I'm using a PC. > If the fonts were embedded when the PDF was produced on the Mac, you probably wouldn't have this problem. Acrobat seems able to sort out encoding differences between PC and Mac very nicely so long as the fonts are embedded. I've got a file on my site that explains this in more detail. Anonymous ftp to rdpslides.com and look for ENCODING.PDF or point your browser at ftp://rdpslides.com/members/rdp Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 14:10:24-GMT,2556;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25131 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:10:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09468; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:58:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:56:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09311; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:56:21 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B7A@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'" , "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:56:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The Adobe Acrobat 4.0 User Guide reads as follows: To create a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat (Windows): 1 Choose File > Open, choose All Files from the Files Of Type pop-up menu, select the file you want to convert to PDF, and click Open. You can open a document from Adobe FrameMaker, Corel WordPerfect, or Microsoft Word, Excel, or PowerPoint; an HTML or text file; or an image file of type GIF, JPEG, TIFF, PCX, PNG, or BMP. 2 Choose File > Save As, enter a filename and location for the new PDF file, and click Save. I can open images in this manner, but when I try to do this with a Microsoft Word, Excel or PowerPoint file, I get the following message: There was an error opening this document. File does not begin with '%PDF-'. Can anybody help me with this? I am using Acrobat 4.0 under MS Windows NT 4.0. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 14:55:44-GMT,2649;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26340 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:55:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13963; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:48:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:46:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13741; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:46:44 -0500 X-Sender: suec@tsmail.tshore.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B7A@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: suec@tshore.com (Sue Campbell) Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:46:44 -0400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I can open images in this manner, but when I try to do this with a >Microsoft Word, Excel or PowerPoint file, I get the following message: > > There was an error opening this document. File does not begin with >'%PDF-'. Gary, Are you Launching Distiller this is separate from the viewers. The viewers require PDF files to open, while Distiller can handle all the formats you mentioned. Hope that helps, Sue >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> >-<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> >________________________________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sue Campbell Training & Production Coordinator Thomson-Shore, Inc. 734.426.6293 http://www.tshore.com "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goals" -Unknown _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 15:47:55-GMT,2466;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27807 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:47:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18254; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:40:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:37:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17987; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:37:26 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B7D@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:37:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sue, I have the full version of Acrobat 4.0 installed on my PC. I didn't bother to install the Reader, I use Acrobat for both viewing and editing PDF files. I did not have Distiller running at the time, since doing so is not required, according to the documentation. Just for the sake of argument, though, I tried launching Distiller first, then opening the documents in Acrobat like it said...no change. Thanks anyway. Gary > ---------- > From: suec@tshore.com[SMTP:suec@tshore.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 9:46 AM > Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening > the file in Acrobat > > Gary, > > Are you Launching Distiller this is separate from the viewers. The > viewers > require PDF files to open, while Distiller can handle all the formats > you > mentioned. > > Hope that helps, Sue > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 16:35:54-GMT,2678;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29342 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:35:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23491; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:31:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:30:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23320; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:30:19 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990902092655.00a92c80@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 09:29:26 -0700 To: "S Khullar" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Distilling files for Linotronic Cc: In-Reply-To: <01bef505$634d6250$02c802c0@workstation> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9/1/99 10:38 PM , S Khullar wrote: >I am unable to distil PS file created with the linotronic driver (The idea >is only to preview the files before sending it to the bureau) > > distiller gives serverdict exitserver errors > >Is there a workaround to make the distiller ignore such errors? Any other >program that previews Linotronic files. I tried using GhostScript's GS View, >but that to gives the same problem. > >Any solution? Acrobatic or otherwise? > >khullar As we have discussed MANY times on this list, PostScript is a device-DEPENDENT language. PostScript generated for a "Linotronic" device may fail for another device such as a LaserJet or the Acrobat Distiller. If you want/need PostScript that properly distills, you generate PostScript using the PPD that comes with Acrobat. - Dov _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 16:36:12-GMT,1892;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29375 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:36:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23226; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:29:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:27:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23110; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:27:46 -0500 Message-ID: <027b01bef560$12417da0$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: "pdf zone" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:27:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anybody know where the ini setting are stored fro Acro 4 Acro 3 used to store them in the acroread.ini file. Thanks Paul Dennis Complete Picture London Publishing Solutions For Industry _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 16:56:03-GMT,1882;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29942 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:55:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25245; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:51:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:49:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25028; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:49:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1275913298-41589972@216.41.19.3> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:56:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: [PDF] one character won't print Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a PDf file (made with all fonts imbedded, subset set to 99%) that prints fine on a laser printer, even with none of the required fonts resident on the computer. However, on a Docutek, one character in one font does not print correctly. The rest of the same font prints fine. Any ideas? Susan _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 17:09:57-GMT,2592;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00315 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:09:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26595; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:04:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:03:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26462; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:03:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939D1@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] one character won't print Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:02:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What is the character that doesn't print? Also, is the font a TrueType or Type 1? -----Original Message----- From: Susan Gertz [mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:56 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] one character won't print The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a PDf file (made with all fonts imbedded, subset set to 99%) that prints fine on a laser printer, even with none of the required fonts resident on the computer. However, on a Docutek, one character in one font does not print correctly. The rest of the same font prints fine. Any ideas? Susan _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 17:12:52-GMT,2487;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00443 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:12:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26966; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:08:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:07:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26854; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:07:51 -0500 Message-ID: <37CEAFD1.76097F1B@scenicsoft.com> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 10:11:45 -0700 From: sbailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat References: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B7D@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Gary, Hello! It might be worth checking to make certain you have the required files in the correct places. So, here's a list of files you should have installed and the locations they should be installed to: ...\Acrobat4.0\Acrobat\plug_ins\OpenAll should contain: "Transform" directory and "OpenAll.api" ...\Acrobat4.0\Acrobat\plug_ins\OpenAll\Transform should contain: directories: "InBox", "plugins", "temp", "Working", files: "OpenAll.exe", "pdfile.ocx" [may also contain a "Presslog.txt" which is a log file of the transformations] You are correct, having Distiller open is not necessary to perform the transformation. Regards, Samantha -- ___________________________________________ Samantha M. Bailey | Software Test Engineer 425.355.6655 | http://www.scenicsoft.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 17:23:54-GMT,2416;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00791 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:23:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28069; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:20:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:19:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27988; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:19:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939D1@denver.quark.com> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:25:40 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: RE: [PDF] one character won't print Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >What is the character that doesn't print? Also, is the font a TrueType or >Type 1? > The font is a type 1 edited in Fontographer to put circles around the numerals and the question mark. All the numerals with circles print fine. The question mark prints as a solid black circle. Susan ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education 4200 East University blvd. Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH 45042 http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 17:42:27-GMT,3137;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01547 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:42:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29344; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:35:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:34:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29272; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:34:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939D2@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] one character won't print Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:32:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Susan, I do know that Distiller sometimes does not cooperate fully with fonts created or edited in Fontographer. Todd -----Original Message----- From: Susan Gertz [mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 12:26 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] one character won't print The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >What is the character that doesn't print? Also, is the font a TrueType or >Type 1? > The font is a type 1 edited in Fontographer to put circles around the numerals and the question mark. All the numerals with circles print fine. The question mark prints as a solid black circle. Susan ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education 4200 East University blvd. Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH 45042 http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 17:53:49-GMT,2602;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01977 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:53:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30362; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:48:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:46:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30192; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:46:46 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B82@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:46:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Samantha, I checked this out, and...in the \Acrobat4.0\Acrobat\plug_ins\OpenAll\Transform folder, the subfolders "InBox", "temp" and "working" weren't there, so I created them and started Acrobat. Still didn't help...same error message. *sigh* Thanks anyway, Gary > ---------- > Gary, > > Hello! It might be worth checking to make certain you have the > required > files in the correct places. So, here's a list of files you should > have > installed and the locations they should be installed to: > > ...\Acrobat4.0\Acrobat\plug_ins\OpenAll > should contain: > "Transform" directory and "OpenAll.api" > > ...\Acrobat4.0\Acrobat\plug_ins\OpenAll\Transform > should contain: > directories: "InBox", "plugins", "temp", "Working", > files: "OpenAll.exe", "pdfile.ocx" [may also contain a "Presslog.txt" > which is a log file of the transformations] > > You are correct, having Distiller open is not necessary to perform the > transformation. > > Regards, > Samantha > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 18:39:36-GMT,2647;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03314 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:39:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01154; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:32:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:29:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00792; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:29:49 -0500 Message-ID: <37CEC306.675077AE@scenicsoft.com> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:33:42 -0700 From: sbailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat References: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B82@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Gary, Hmmm. A few follow-up questions/observations then... 1. Were these files in the correct locations: "OpenAll.api" and "pdfile.ocx" 2. Has this feature *ever* worked for you? 3. Have you tried *uninstalling* Acrobat 4.0, then reinstalling? Or have you reinstalled over the original files? 4. Do you have the application that created the files installed on the system? 5. If the answer to number 4 is "yes," then can you open the original file in the native application and convert it to PDF by printing to the Distiller printer driver? You mentioned in the original post that this feature is failing with Word, PowerPoint and Excel. If you don't have these applications installed on the machine, then the OpenAll feature will not work. I didn't see whether converting .gifs and .jpeg files failed in the same way, and that would be good information to know. Let me know if any of these ideas work for you. Regards, Samantha _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 18:52:55-GMT,3861;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03749 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:52:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02363; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:47:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:46:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02243; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:46:00 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B83@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:45:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Samantha, > 1. Were these files in the correct locations: > "OpenAll.api" and "pdfile.ocx" > Yes, the files were in the correct locations. > 2. Has this feature *ever* worked for you? > I have never attempted to use this feature before on Microsoft Office documents, so the answer is no. I've used it to open graphics files before, and it worked great. Still does in that respect. > 3. Have you tried *uninstalling* Acrobat 4.0, then reinstalling? Or > have > you reinstalled over the original files? > No, I haven't tried either. I don't have administrator privileges in NT, so I would have to call someone from our desktop group to do this, and they are rather busy. If worse comes to worse, I'll have to do so. > 4. Do you have the application that created the files installed on the > system? > Yes, in all cases. > 5. If the answer to number 4 is "yes," then can you open the original > file in the native application and convert it to PDF by printing to > the > Distiller printer driver? > Yes, again, in all cases. > You mentioned in the original post that this feature is failing with > Word, PowerPoint and Excel. If you don't have these applications > installed on the machine, then the OpenAll feature will not work. I > didn't see whether converting .gifs and .jpeg files failed in the same > way, and that would be good information to know. > The Word, PowerPoint and Excel files that I used were created on this machine. As I said in my original post, I can open images in this manner. With the error message, "There was an error opening this document. File does not begin with '%PDF-'", it almost seems as if Acrobat is expecting to be opening a PDF file. Which in the File Open dialog, under Files of type:, the available options are as follows: Acrobat (*.pdf) HTML Documents (*.htm, *.html, *.shtml) ASCII Text (*.txt, *.text) Image Files (*.gif, *.tif, *.png, *.jpg, *.jpe, *.bmp, *.pcx) All Files (*.*) You'd think if Acrobat was designed to open Word, Excel and PowerPoint (MS Office) documents, that there would be a selection for it also; i.e., Microsoft Office Documents (*.doc, *.xls, *.ppt) but the User Guide says to use All Files. Your guess is as good as mine. :-) Thanks, Gary _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 19:24:46-GMT,3146;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04681 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:24:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04710; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:16:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:14:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04552; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:14:55 -0500 Message-ID: <37CECD8C.2FF1546D@scenicsoft.com> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 12:18:36 -0700 From: sbailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat References: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B83@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Gary, Thanks for the information, it helps. The key to your problem is that you are logging on under an User account. I typically log in on my Administrative account, and the feature works as expected. So, after reading this: > No, I haven't tried either. I don't have administrator privileges in > NT, so I would have to call someone from our desktop group to do this, > and they are rather busy. If worse comes to worse, I'll have to do so. I created a User account. The feature fails in the same manner. Adobe is aware of a similar problem with PDFMaker. See http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/1ab66.htm for details. I'm betting that they are probably already aware that the OpenAll feature fails in the same way, however, if they aren't they do watch this forum so if they weren't aware, they are now. You have a couple of options: 1. Convert you files by printing to the Distiller print driver 2. Log in on the same account that installed Acrobat. [Probably your Admin's account] 3. Add the default registry key as mentioned in the Tech Note I pointed you to previously. You should have your Admin. do this. The registry is not something you really want to mess with. Trust me on that! Sorry you hit this. It's tough. I hope this has been helpful. Regards, Samantha -- ___________________________________________ Samantha M. Bailey | Software Test Engineer 425.355.6655 | http://www.scenicsoft.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 19:26:27-GMT,2277;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04714 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:26:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04926; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:18:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:17:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04803; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:17:40 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990902152237.00915db0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:22:37 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B83@msexchg1.wcnoc.co m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The Word, PowerPoint and Excel files that I used were created on this >machine. As I said in my original post, I can open images in this >manner. > Do the *.PPT/*.DOC/*.XLS files or the folders they reside in have spaces in the names or do you use any unusual punctuation, multiple periods or anything of that nature in the file/folder names? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 19:39:03-GMT,2585;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05119 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:39:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06500; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:34:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:32:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06290; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:32:34 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B85@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:32:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve, Nothing at all unusual. Here are the complete drive/folder/filenames for the subject files: D:\Mahammo.doc D:\drrqr.xls H:\breakout95.ppt The PowerPoint file is the only one that might be the least bit suspect, in that it doesn't meet the 8.3 filename specs, although Acrobat hasn't seemed to be too hung up on that in other respects. Gary > ---------- > From: Steve Rindsberg[SMTP:steve@rdpslides.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 2:22 PM > Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening > the file in Acrobat > > >The Word, PowerPoint and Excel files that I used were created on this > >machine. As I said in my original post, I can open images in this > >manner. > > > > Do the *.PPT/*.DOC/*.XLS files or the folders they reside in have > spaces in > the names or do you use any unusual punctuation, multiple periods or > anything of that nature in the file/folder names? > > > Steve Rindsberg > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 20:08:17-GMT,2196;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06151 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08260; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:54:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:52:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08038; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:52:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990902155739.008ba260@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:57:39 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating a PDF file with Distiller by opening the file in Acrobat In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B85@msexchg1.wcnoc.co m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Nothing at all unusual. Here are the complete drive/folder/filenames >for the subject files: > > D:\Mahammo.doc > D:\drrqr.xls > H:\breakout95.ppt > Another perfectl good theory bites the dust. I think Samantha may have put her finger on the problem. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 20:14:27-GMT,4441;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06347 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:14:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09660; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:10:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:08:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09517; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:08:53 -0500 Message-ID: <024001bef57e$f068d880$8e462099@corp.adobe.com> From: "Phil Ydens" To: References: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939CB@denver.quark.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Uanble to extract the embedded font... Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:08:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ FYI ArialMT and TimesNewRoman MT Type 1 fonts have Euro. Phil Ydens Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Reid To: Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 6:22 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] Uanble to extract the embedded font... > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Although, what's up with the new Euro character in TrueType fonts (haven't > been able to find a Type 1 font with this character yet)-in Reader 3 or > Exchange 3 on a Mac, it won't display, even though the font (Symbol in this > case) is embedded & subset at 100%. > > Anyone? > > Todd Reid > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Rindsberg [mailto:steve@rdpslides.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 7:17 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Uanble to extract the embedded font... > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > >"Unable to extract the embedded font XXX. Some characters may not > >display or print correctly." > > > >That is to put it gently: the characters simply disappear. > >The fonts are rather special fonts, but I do have the fonts > >installed on my system. > > > > > >The pdf's are Mac produced, and I'm using a PC. > > > > If the fonts were embedded when the PDF was produced on the Mac, you > probably wouldn't have this problem. Acrobat seems able to sort out > encoding differences between PC and Mac very nicely so long as the fonts > are embedded. > > I've got a file on my site that explains this in more detail. > > Anonymous ftp to rdpslides.com and look for ENCODING.PDF or point your > browser at ftp://rdpslides.com/members/rdp > > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com > > Developers of ZAP! > Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus > http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San an -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San an -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 21:57:07-GMT,2712;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09634 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:57:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17508; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:52:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:47:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17136; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:47:32 -0500 Message-ID: <028101bef58c$af35fc90$8e462099@corp.adobe.com> From: "Phil Ydens" To: References: <027b01bef560$12417da0$0200a8c0@Paul> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:46:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Look in the registry at HKEY_CURRENT_USER:\Software\Adobe\Acrobat Reader\4.0 Phil Ydens Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Dennis To: pdf zone Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 9:27 AM Subject: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Does anybody know where the ini setting are stored fro Acro 4 Acro 3 used to > store them in the acroread.ini file. > > Thanks > > Paul Dennis > Complete Picture London > Publishing Solutions For Industry > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San an -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1999 22:31:19-GMT,4359;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10563 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20033; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:25:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:24:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19954; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:24:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Hester, Chris" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "Stanton, Chuck" , "Rogers, David" , "Plotkin, Rita" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:22:38 -0700 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Phil: I have an open case (#2852482) and as of yet have not been able to get assistance. I was told that I would have to wait 24 hours for an e-mail response (even AFTER I submitted $25 for an open ticket) We're deploying Acrobat Reader 4.0 and we use mandatory profiles (1500 NT Users). Each time a domain user launches the Acrobat Reader, we're prompted to accept the license agreement. This of course is annoying (once is okay...but each time?). We set up a modified test user profile with EULA set to 1 and logged in with a test user account (it worked). We no longer are prompted to accept license agreement. Unfortunately, we have 150 profiles to manage! I tried using abcpy.ini as part of my installation process, but no luck. I entered DisplayEULA=NO. Can an installation process alleviate the need to modify our user profiles? Please help! Chris Hester Headlands Mortgage Co. -----Original Message----- From: Phil Ydens [mailto:pydens@Adobe.COM] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 2:47 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Look in the registry at HKEY_CURRENT_USER:\Software\Adobe\Acrobat Reader\4.0 Phil Ydens Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Dennis To: pdf zone Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 9:27 AM Subject: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Does anybody know where the ini setting are stored fro Acro 4 Acro 3 used to > store them in the acroread.ini file. > > Thanks > > Paul Dennis > Complete Picture London > Publishing Solutions For Industry > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San an -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 0:33:46-GMT,6182;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13711 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28040; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:27:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:25:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27929; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:25:22 -0500 Message-ID: <02fa01bef5a2$c675ab60$8e462099@corp.adobe.com> From: "Phil Ydens" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:25:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry, but I don't totally understand your enterprise model (my fault). When Acrobat Reader is installed, we put a bunch of things in HKEY_CURRENT_USER. One of them is the EULA acknowledgement. There are lots of other things, though. If your users are constantly being asked to accept the EULA, then that tells me: 1) Your users don't have write privileges to the user profile (because we write in our acknowledgement upon acceptance of the EULA) 2) This may mean that the other entries in HKEY_CURRENT_USER are not in that profile either. Off the cuff, you probably don't have the proper weblink settings. Or I bet the Web browser integration option (which allows users to set whether Reader is a helper app or not) won't work either. The EULA problem may be the tip of the iceberg here. Since I'm not very familiar with your software deployment process (but am very interested in it), would you tell me how these user profiles are updated when you deploy software? Phil Ydens Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat ----- Original Message ----- From: Hester, Chris To: Cc: Stanton, Chuck ; Rogers, David ; Plotkin, Rita Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Phil: > > I have an open case (#2852482) and as of yet have not been able to get > assistance. I was told that I would have to wait 24 hours for an e-mail > response (even AFTER I submitted $25 for an open ticket) > > We're deploying Acrobat Reader 4.0 and we use mandatory profiles (1500 NT > Users). Each time a domain user launches the Acrobat Reader, we're prompted > to accept the license agreement. This of course is annoying (once is > okay...but each time?). > > We set up a modified test user profile with EULA set to 1 and logged in with > a test user account (it worked). We no longer are prompted to accept > license agreement. Unfortunately, we have 150 profiles to manage! > > I tried using abcpy.ini as part of my installation process, but no luck. I > entered DisplayEULA=NO. Can an installation process alleviate the need to > modify our user profiles? Please help! > > > Chris Hester > Headlands Mortgage Co. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Ydens [mailto:pydens@Adobe.COM] > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 2:47 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Look in the registry at > HKEY_CURRENT_USER:\Software\Adobe\Acrobat Reader\4.0 > > Phil Ydens > Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Dennis > To: pdf zone > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 9:27 AM > Subject: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting > > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Does anybody know where the ini setting are stored fro > Acro 4 Acro 3 used > to > > store them in the acroread.ini file. > > > > Thanks > > > > Paul Dennis > > Complete Picture London > > Publishing Solutions For Industry > > > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * > _________________ > > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates > from San > an -> > > -<- Check back early & often: > http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * > _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates > from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: > http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San an -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 2:21:25-GMT,7429;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16364 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:21:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02462; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:17:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:14:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02284; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:14:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Hester, Chris" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "Stanton, Chuck" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:12:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks so much for responding so quickly! Rarely do we need to modify HKCU. Most of the software updates/upgrades affect only HKLM. There are times when we modify our read-only mandatory profiles, but not often. I'm deploying Reader 4.0 using setup.exe -s -sms (deploying it with Netscape 4.08 using Microsoft's System Management Server). I'm assuming your installation process for Reader 4.0 is different then 3.0x? This didn't seem to be an issue before. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Phil Ydens [mailto:pydens@Adobe.COM] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 5:25 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry, but I don't totally understand your enterprise model (my fault). When Acrobat Reader is installed, we put a bunch of things in HKEY_CURRENT_USER. One of them is the EULA acknowledgement. There are lots of other things, though. If your users are constantly being asked to accept the EULA, then that tells me: 1) Your users don't have write privileges to the user profile (because we write in our acknowledgement upon acceptance of the EULA) 2) This may mean that the other entries in HKEY_CURRENT_USER are not in that profile either. Off the cuff, you probably don't have the proper weblink settings. Or I bet the Web browser integration option (which allows users to set whether Reader is a helper app or not) won't work either. The EULA problem may be the tip of the iceberg here. Since I'm not very familiar with your software deployment process (but am very interested in it), would you tell me how these user profiles are updated when you deploy software? Phil Ydens Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat ----- Original Message ----- From: Hester, Chris To: Cc: Stanton, Chuck ; Rogers, David ; Plotkin, Rita Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Phil: > > I have an open case (#2852482) and as of yet have not been able to get > assistance. I was told that I would have to wait 24 hours for an e-mail > response (even AFTER I submitted $25 for an open ticket) > > We're deploying Acrobat Reader 4.0 and we use mandatory profiles (1500 NT > Users). Each time a domain user launches the Acrobat Reader, we're prompted > to accept the license agreement. This of course is annoying (once is > okay...but each time?). > > We set up a modified test user profile with EULA set to 1 and logged in with > a test user account (it worked). We no longer are prompted to accept > license agreement. Unfortunately, we have 150 profiles to manage! > > I tried using abcpy.ini as part of my installation process, but no luck. I > entered DisplayEULA=NO. Can an installation process alleviate the need to > modify our user profiles? Please help! > > > Chris Hester > Headlands Mortgage Co. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Ydens [mailto:pydens@Adobe.COM] > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 2:47 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Look in the registry at > HKEY_CURRENT_USER:\Software\Adobe\Acrobat Reader\4.0 > > Phil Ydens > Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Dennis > To: pdf zone > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 9:27 AM > Subject: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting > > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Does anybody know where the ini setting are stored fro > Acro 4 Acro 3 used > to > > store them in the acroread.ini file. > > > > Thanks > > > > Paul Dennis > > Complete Picture London > > Publishing Solutions For Industry > > > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * > _________________ > > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates > from San > an -> > > -<- Check back early & often: > http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * > _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates > from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: > http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San an -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 5:00:33-GMT,2824;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19864 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:00:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12546; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:55:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:53:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12374; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:53:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990902204143.00a90210@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 20:41:43 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: RE: [PDF] one character won't print In-Reply-To: References: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939D1@denver.quark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 01:25 PM 9/2/99 -0500, Susan Gertz wrote: >>What is the character that doesn't print? Also, is the font a TrueType or >>Type 1? >> >The font is a type 1 edited in Fontographer to put circles around the >numerals and the question mark. All the numerals with circles print fine. >The question mark prints as a solid black circle. That's one of the classic symptoms of an incorrect path direction in a font. Open it in Fontographer again, select that character and choose "Correct path directions". Sorry, can't remember which menu that's in off the top of my head. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 5:01:05-GMT,2280;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19880 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:01:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12756; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:58:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:57:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12685; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:57:20 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Distilling files for Linotronic Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:47:12 +0530 Message-ID: <01bef5cb$9428a350$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The problem here is different. I have a linotronic 330 device. My clients send me PS files created for Linotronic device. I am trying to use distiller or GSView (of GhostScript) to preview the file before its RIPed. khullar > >As we have discussed MANY times on this list, PostScript is a >device-DEPENDENT language. PostScript generated for a "Linotronic" >device may fail for another device such as a LaserJet or the >Acrobat Distiller. If you want/need PostScript that properly >distills, you generate PostScript using the PPD that comes >with Acrobat. > > - Dov > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 5:12:14-GMT,1894;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20099 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:12:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13335; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:04:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:02:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13185; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:02:57 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: [PDF] Quark Box to PDF Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:52:58 +0530 Message-ID: <01bef5cc$625a6f60$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there a utility /XTention which will convert the contents of a Quark Box (text, images, graphics) to PDF and replace the contents with the PDF. I know the Quark PDF Filter is a recent feature, but ... khullar _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 10:51:54-GMT,2074;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27202 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 04:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01010; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 05:46:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 05:43:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00841; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 05:43:39 -0500 Message-ID: <19990903104327.11069.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [192.250.113.22] From: "Richard Keegan" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 03:43:27 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I am having a lot of problems at the moment. I have a pdf file which contains 4 columns of data. I need ultimately to export this data to a database. At this stage I would be happy to be able to extract this information in a comma-delimited CSV file or similar. Does anybody have any ideas as to how to go about this or where to look for help? Thanks in advance for your time and consideration. Cheers, Rich ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 13:28:01-GMT,3155;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00328 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:27:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11202; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:19:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:18:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11097; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:18:09 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:18:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990903131802.MUNC22922.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Which platform are you using? Windws OS, I'm not sure of the right software. Mac OS, copy the text, paste into BBEdit, fix text, export to database. Utilize Applescript, and Facespan to do it all automatically. Facespan, is only needed for making Acrobat Applescript aware. Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF ---------- >From: "Richard Keegan" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? >Date: Fri, Sep 3, 1999, 6:43 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi all, > I am having a lot of problems at the moment. I have a pdf file which > contains 4 columns of data. I need ultimately to export this data to a > database. At this stage I would be happy to be able to extract this > information in a comma-delimited CSV file or similar. Does anybody have any > ideas as to how to go about this or where to look for help? > Thanks in advance for your time and consideration. > Cheers, > Rich > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 13:31:11-GMT,2605;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00410 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:31:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11062; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:18:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:14:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10819; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:14:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:14:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark Box to PDF From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990903131427.MSAW22922.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Applescript!! Quark is very Applwscript friendly, and Applescript is already on your macine, if you have a Mac. Otherwise, Visual Basic. ---------- >From: "S Khullar" >To: >Subject: [PDF] Quark Box to PDF >Date: Fri, Sep 3, 1999, 1:22 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Is there a utility /XTention which will convert the contents of a Quark Box > (text, images, graphics) to PDF and replace the contents with the PDF. > > I know the Quark PDF Filter is a recent feature, but ... > > khullar > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 13:35:19-GMT,4156;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00489 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:35:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12179; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:30:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:29:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12040; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:29:04 -0500 Message-ID: <007001bef610$87c8dc70$0100a8c0@algonet.se> From: "Peter Reichel" To: Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4 drains memory? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:30:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006D_01BEF621.4B2A0030" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Return-Path: peter@originalab.se Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BEF621.4B2A0030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When using Distiller 4 and watched folders, you have no possibility to shut distiller down between jobs, like you had in Distiller 3 with = Distiller Assistant. And Distiller sucks up about 8kb of memory for each new (small) job, eventually draining the system to a crash. This is not very good and I was wondering if anyone else have seen this and maybe got an idea besides sticking with version 3. Using the printer driver is no good for me because I don't want the PDF to have the same name as the original document. Peter Reichel peter@originalab.se ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BEF621.4B2A0030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When using Distiller 4 and watched = folders, you=20 have no possibility to
shut distiller down between jobs, = like you had=20 in Distiller 3 with Distiller Assistant.
And Distiller sucks up about 8kb of = memory for each=20 new (small) job,
eventually draining the system to a=20 crash.
This is not very good and I was = wondering if anyone=20 else have seen this
and maybe got an idea besides sticking = with version=20 3.
Using the printer driver is no good for = me because=20 I don't want the PDF
to have the same name as the original=20 document.
 
Peter Reichel
 
------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BEF621.4B2A0030-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 13:43:45-GMT,2541;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00718 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:43:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12822; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:36:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:35:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12690; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:35:40 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 15:35:13 +0200 From: Manfred Vogel To: Subject: [PDF] PDF import in FileMaker 4.x MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there an tool for importing pdf into a FileMaker-database? (Based on the Claris XTend-System?) manfred _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 13:44:05-GMT,2486;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00733 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:43:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12773; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:36:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:35:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12613; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:35:06 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9B87@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:34:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Richard, Using Acrobat 4 in Windows NT 4, I used the Table/Formatted Text Select tool to outline the table, and copied the selection to the clipboard. It pasted into Notepad as a tab-delimited file, which most spreadsheets and database programs can easily import. Piece of cake. HTH, Gary > ---------- > >From: "Richard Keegan" > >Subject: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? > >Date: Fri, Sep 3, 1999, 6:43 AM > > > > Hi all, > > I am having a lot of problems at the moment. I have a pdf file which > > contains 4 columns of data. I need ultimately to export this data to > a > > database. At this stage I would be happy to be able to extract this > > information in a comma-delimited CSV file or similar. Does anybody > have any > > ideas as to how to go about this or where to look for help? > > Thanks in advance for your time and consideration. > > Cheers, > > Rich > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 14:09:07-GMT,1873;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01308 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:09:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15061; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:02:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:01:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14873; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:01:33 -0500 Message-ID: <19990903140121.183.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [192.250.113.22] From: "Richard Keegan" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 07:01:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Jason, I'm using Windows NT 4. I am trying to export the text through Visual Basic either shelling some other app or through code etc. I don't suppose you'd know of anything would you? Thanks for your reply, Rich ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 14:09:32-GMT,2476;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01312 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:09:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15086; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:03:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:01:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14912; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:01:57 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] A Lurking Dot Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:01:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1BD10B43322145-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have some dots that don't belong, and that won't go away! Using Quark XPress 4.04 on Windows 95, I've laid out a four page document with a page number on three of the pages. The page number font is Arial TT. Then I print to the Acrobat Distiller usind the Distiller PPD with font subsetting and embedding and get a perfectly lovely PDF file with one little exception. After each page number there is a little tiny dot, almost like a period, but smaller. It's only in the page numbers, too. It doesn't occur in any other Quark boxes, it doesn't occur with any other Arial text, and it doesn't actually print when I print the PDF to my local HP LJ 4 PS. It only shows on screen. At this point, it's not that important, just very, very annoying. Any ideas? Joel Kinstle _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 14:19:56-GMT,3012;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01616 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:19:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16001; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:13:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:12:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15799; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:12:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939DD@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] A Lurking Dot Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:10:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does this happen with any other fonts, say a Type 1? -----Original Message----- From: Kinstle, Joel [mailto:jkinstle@kcc.com] Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 8:02 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] A Lurking Dot The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have some dots that don't belong, and that won't go away! Using Quark XPress 4.04 on Windows 95, I've laid out a four page document with a page number on three of the pages. The page number font is Arial TT. Then I print to the Acrobat Distiller usind the Distiller PPD with font subsetting and embedding and get a perfectly lovely PDF file with one little exception. After each page number there is a little tiny dot, almost like a period, but smaller. It's only in the page numbers, too. It doesn't occur in any other Quark boxes, it doesn't occur with any other Arial text, and it doesn't actually print when I print the PDF to my local HP LJ 4 PS. It only shows on screen. At this point, it's not that important, just very, very annoying. Any ideas? Joel Kinstle _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 14:22:21-GMT,2511;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01674 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:22:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16379; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:18:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:15:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16154; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:15:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP From: "Janet Loprano" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:13:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distilling files for Linotronic Mime-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on APRelay1/TheAP(Release 5.0 (Intl)|30 March 1999) at 09/03/99 10:16:04 AM, Serialize by Router on APRelay1/TheAP(Release 5.0 (Intl)|30 March 1999) at 09/03/99 10:16:06 AM, Serialize complete at 09/03/99 10:16:06 AM Message-ID: <852567E1.004EF6AE.00@ctc2.ap.org> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ------------ The problem here is different. I have a linotronic 330 device. My clients send me PS files created for Linotronic device. I am trying to use distiller or GSView (of GhostScript) to preview the file before its RIPed. khullar ------- If you are trying to preview color--Keep in mind that a Linotronic 330 is considered a "black and white" imagesetter. In other words, you do not send composite color to it. You send pre-separated files from the page layout application. If your clients are using a Linotronic PPD chances are what you see on your monitor for preview wouldn't meet your expectations *if* you could get it to distill. Janet Loprano _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 14:35:13-GMT,3219;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02255 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:35:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17430; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:29:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:28:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17297; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:28:21 -0500 Message-ID: <005801bef618$36a6c660$3d19fed0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:25:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ An inexpensive program called FORTE (around $70) can do this. Also, a more expensive program, RedWing (around 700), will extract columns of text to either a table or spreadsheet. Redwing, of course, is a very robust program that has a few more features than the FORTE! I don't use Acrobat 4.0 - it might have this feature built in? SueG -----Original Message----- From: Richard Keegan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, September 03, 1999 4:02 AM Subject: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Hi all, >I am having a lot of problems at the moment. I have a pdf file which >contains 4 columns of data. I need ultimately to export this data to a >database. At this stage I would be happy to be able to extract this >information in a comma-delimited CSV file or similar. Does anybody have any >ideas as to how to go about this or where to look for help? >Thanks in advance for your time and consideration. >Cheers, >Rich > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ ><- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> >-<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> >________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 14:35:15-GMT,2112;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02259 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:35:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17708; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:31:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:29:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17401; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:29:47 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] A Lurking Dot Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:29:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1BD104BC330003-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Actually, yes. After your suggestions, I replace the left page numbers with Adobe Sabon (T1) and the right page numbers with Univers 57 Condensed (T1), and still got the mystery dot, but still only at the page numbers, nowhere else in the document. -----Original Message----- From: Todd Reid [mailto:TReid@quark.com] Subject: RE: [PDF] A Lurking Dot Does this happen with any other fonts, say a Type 1? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 14:46:33-GMT,3249;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02541 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:46:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18519; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:40:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:39:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18402; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:39:25 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:39:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990903143917.OPOH22922.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You could export to Word, it is Visual Basic friendly, this would give you a text file, that could then be used for your purpose. Even then you could transform to a spreadsheet, etc., sorry, I haven't had much request for this yet, however I will look into it further. Could you send me a step by step of what you are using, what you are doing, and what you desire in the end. Just applications and steps, will do fine, this will help me to see your line of thinking, so that I am indeed working to the same goal. Thanks, and sorry I cannot be of more help at this point. Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF ---------- >From: "Richard Keegan" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? >Date: Fri, Sep 3, 1999, 10:01 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi Jason, > I'm using Windows NT 4. I am trying to export the text through Visual Basic > either shelling some other app or through code etc. > I don't suppose you'd know of anything would you? > Thanks for your reply, > Rich > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 14:46:35-GMT,2670;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02545 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:46:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18669; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:41:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:40:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18473; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:40:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939DF@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] A Lurking Dot Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:38:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Were the page numbers created with the auto page number feature in XPress? -----Original Message----- From: Kinstle, Joel [mailto:jkinstle@kcc.com] Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 8:29 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] A Lurking Dot The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Actually, yes. After your suggestions, I replace the left page numbers with Adobe Sabon (T1) and the right page numbers with Univers 57 Condensed (T1), and still got the mystery dot, but still only at the page numbers, nowhere else in the document. -----Original Message----- From: Todd Reid [mailto:TReid@quark.com] Subject: RE: [PDF] A Lurking Dot Does this happen with any other fonts, say a Type 1? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 14:48:35-GMT,1945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02594 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:48:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19028; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:44:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:42:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18820; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:42:28 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] A Lurking Dot Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:42:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1BD101CC333787-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, they were. They are on the master pages and flow through the document, except page one. -----Original Message----- From: Todd Reid [mailto:TReid@quark.com] Were the page numbers created with the auto page number feature in XPress? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 15:26:11-GMT,2529;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03649 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:26:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22038; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:19:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:17:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21863; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:17:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939E1@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] A Lurking Dot Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:15:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ might be related to the auto page number feature. Try numbering manually and see what happens. Todd -----Original Message----- From: Kinstle, Joel [mailto:jkinstle@kcc.com] Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 8:42 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] A Lurking Dot The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, they were. They are on the master pages and flow through the document, except page one. -----Original Message----- From: Todd Reid [mailto:TReid@quark.com] Were the page numbers created with the auto page number feature in XPress? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 15:46:08-GMT,2976;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04209 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:46:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23739; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:40:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:39:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23640; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:39:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: Linda Williams To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 drains memory? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:42:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA23636 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have that problem with v3 and just aren't using "watched" folders anymore. We distill manually. The problem is that it seems to eat up all the CPU resources ... the "HOT" directory, when live, does not release memory like it should. We're using UNIX on the SUN. Anymore comments on this subject would be appreciated. I'd like to be able to dump postscript files to a directory and automatically have the .pdf files created. Thanks. Linda > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Reichel [SMTP:peter@originalab.se] > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 9:31 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4 drains memory? > > When using Distiller 4 and watched folders, you have no possibility to > shut distiller down between jobs, like you had in Distiller 3 with > Distiller Assistant. > And Distiller sucks up about 8kb of memory for each new (small) job, > eventually draining the system to a crash. > This is not very good and I was wondering if anyone else have seen this > and maybe got an idea besides sticking with version 3. > Using the printer driver is no good for me because I don't want the PDF > to have the same name as the original document. >   > Peter Reichel > peter@originalab.se >   _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 16:20:33-GMT,3240;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05227 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:20:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27006; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:14:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:12:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26845; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:12:56 -0500 Message-ID: <19990903161242.9833.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [205.181.240.22] From: "Richard Keegan" To: pdfworkflows@home.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:12:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Jason, thanks for your help. This is driving me insane. Below is a step by step guide as to what I am attempting to do. 1)Receive pdf file through mail which contains 4 columns of data. It spreads over about 4-5 pages on average. This was put together from Adobe Acrobat. 2)This file will automatically be placed in a certain directory.(this has been done). 3)From a VB6 (enterprise edition) front end I wish to be able to press a button which will: 3a)get pdf file from directory. 3b)Extract the data contained within this pdf into a comma-delimited txt file (or similar) 3c)Import this CSV file into an Access 97 database which stores this information. Now, the step that is clearly bothering me is how to extract the text from the file. I have tried printing to a postscript file. This contains the data I need but the formatting is messed up. Using the tags that appear before the data I can extract it (ie.before any of the data in a column comes the prefix "/N8 9.0101 Tf(". Each row is enclosed between "BT" and "ET". However, depending on how the pdf file is generated and when these codes can change, seemingly randomly. This obviously causes a problem when dealing with string functions. It is impossible to predict what they are going to change to it seems. If you have any ideas then I would be very grateful. I may need some software but I'd rather avoid it if possible. I know that it can be done through seperate packages but in theory it should be possible without them. Anyways, Thanks again for your time and help, Rich ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 16:47:17-GMT,3310;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06151 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:47:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29477; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:40:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:38:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29251; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:38:43 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:38:35 +0100 Message-ID: <003701bef62a$c4abb800$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <19990903161242.9833.qmail@hotmail.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Now, the step that is clearly bothering me is how to extract > the text from > the file. I have tried printing to a postscript file. This > contains the data > I need but the formatting is messed up. It's important to realise that what you want to do is EXTREMELY difficult. A PDF file contains elements designed to present an on-screen view of the text. It does not care what order this data is presented in. There is no such thing as a tab, or column, each piece of text just has a position on screen. The general solution is - understand the PDF file format in some detail - extract the text from pages, by decompressing and parsing page contents, working out the dimensions and co-ordinate of every single character - sort the text to ensure the correct ordering - work out word breaks using guesswork based on average character spacing and other heuristics - work out other layout information using detailed analysis of other aspects of the page This is a highly complex operation, which cannot be performed 100% reliably because of the guesswork. Adobe provide interfaces by which a plug-in can do all but the LAST of these, but the last is critical to your project. You might to look at the work done by companies which will have spend literally man years in analysis of this kind of data e.g. http://www.iceni.com or http://www.bcl-computers.com. But there is a serious flaw in your design. Really, if you want spreadsheet functionality, USE A SPREADSHEET. PDF may seem attractive, but it is not. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 17:40:56-GMT,2905;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07817 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:40:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01576; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:35:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:33:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01477; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:33:21 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990903173614.0098e380@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:36:14 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 drains memory? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There were some "memory leak" problems in the Beta versions of Acrobat 4, but I tested specifically for this and they were not present in the production version. My results were all measured on Win NT4, so your results may (and probably will) be different if you are using a different platform. As for shutting down Distiller, in Windows it's do-able (although very inconvenient) by just using the Task Manager and cancelling the Distiller process. You can restart it at any time from the Start/Programs/Startup menu. If you don't want it started by default when you boot, then just remove it from the Startup menu folder, and run it only when you need it (which is what I prefer to do). Tom Thiersch At 03:30 PM 9/3/99 +0200, you wrote: >When using Distiller 4 and watched folders, you have no possibility to >shut distiller down between jobs, like you had in Distiller 3 with Distiller Assistant. >And Distiller sucks up about 8kb of memory for each new (small) job, >eventually draining the system to a crash. >This is not very good and I was wondering if anyone else have seen this >and maybe got an idea besides sticking with version 3. >Using the printer driver is no good for me because I don't want the PDF >to have the same name as the original document. > >Peter Reichel >peter@originalab.se > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 18:52:54-GMT,2426;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09834 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:52:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07434; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:47:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:44:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07188; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:44:36 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990903144933.009247d0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:49:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? In-Reply-To: <19990903161242.9833.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >1)Receive pdf file through mail which contains 4 columns of data. It spreads >over about 4-5 pages on average. This was put together from Adobe Acrobat. Possibly a stupid question, but since that's my specialty, I'll forge ahead: Why start with a PDF? Somebody's had to make the PDF from some other source format, whey not go back one step and see if the source is a little less hostile to what you're trying to do (which is, as Aandi would probably put it if he weren't away, akin to starting with chicken soup and trying to recreate the source chicken). Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 18:53:21-GMT,2170;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09849 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:53:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07435; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:47:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:45:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07280; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:45:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990903145045.008dbb70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:50:45 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? In-Reply-To: <003701bef62a$c4abb800$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <19990903161242.9833.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >But there is a serious flaw in your design. Really, if >you want spreadsheet functionality, USE A SPREADSHEET. PDF may >seem attractive, but it is not. > >Aandi Oh, you're back. Welcome. But you left out the part about the chicken soup. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1999 21:08:14-GMT,3772;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13462 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:08:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17883; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:02:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:59:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17575; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:59:47 -0500 Message-ID: <011b01bef64f$38ea21b0$8e462099@corp.adobe.com> From: "Phil Ydens" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:59:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Chris, If I understand you correctly, you are installing Acrobat Reader 4.0 by giving the command line setup -s -SMS on each machine. You also have it configured so that anything written into the registry at HKEY_CURRENT_USER will not "stick". So, if the installer is writing out an acknowledgement key for the EULA into that location, it doesn't really get written. I looked at what the Reader installer is writing out into HKEY_CURRENT_USER. >From what I can tell, you will have the 3 problems mentioned earlier: EULA, no browser set properly for Weblink, and the browser integration preference item will not work. As I think about it more, these items really could go into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE since they are system configuration issues. I will write up bug reports on these. By the way, if you install Acrobat 4.0 under this configuration, you will no doubt find lots more problems. My only advice here is to either live with the EULA issue, or change your mandatory profiles. Can you temporarily allow writing of these profiles while you are doing the install? Sorry I can't be of any more assistance. Phil Ydens ----- Original Message ----- From: Hester, Chris To: Cc: Stanton, Chuck Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 7:12 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat ini Setting > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Thanks so much for responding so quickly! > > Rarely do we need to modify HKCU. Most of the software updates/upgrades > affect only HKLM. There are times when we modify our read-only mandatory > profiles, but not often. > > I'm deploying Reader 4.0 using setup.exe -s -sms (deploying it with Netscape > 4.08 using Microsoft's System Management Server). I'm assuming your > installation process for Reader 4.0 is different then 3.0x? This didn't > seem to be an issue before. > > Chris > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1999 4:29:10-GMT,1877;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23146 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:29:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13076; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 23:21:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Sep 1999 23:18:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12850; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 23:18:12 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark Box to PDF Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:08:16 +0530 Message-ID: <01bef68f$4dfdafa0$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Any such script available on the net? Khullar >Applescript!! Quark is very Applwscript friendly, and Applescript is >already on your macine, if you have a Mac. Otherwise, Visual Basic. > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1999 12:20:31-GMT,3714;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01867 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 06:20:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08669; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:16:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:12:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08410; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:12:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:16:42 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] FWD> Join Adobe's Customer Workflow Advisory Board Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ FYI/from Mac News Wire ==> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Join Adobe's Customer Workflow Advisory Board From: "Insanely Great Mac" Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:21:38 -0400 Join Adobe's Customer Workflow Advisory Board by Rob Durnford - Adobe launched an advisory board this week for its customers. The goal of the board is to provide ongoing, direct customer input to the design and development of Adobe's professional publishing products and workflow solutions. This process will ensure that rapid evolution of the Adobe professional publishing platform addresses customer requirements today and in the future. The board will consist of a cross-section of Adobe's existing professional publishing customer base, including representatives from newspaper and magazine publishers, commercial printers, advertising agencies and web design firms. "We are establishing the ACWAB as a formal method for gathering that valuable information," said Bryan Lamkin, vice president, professional publishing solutions, Adobe Systems Incorporated. "New technologies are being developed so quickly that it is essential for us to stay on top of how these changes are affecting our customers workflows and how we can constantly improve application interoperability. The ACWAB will help us do that at a rapid pace." Customers who participate in the board will review and validate Adobe's process and product planning documents, as well as alpha and beta test future applications designed to integrate with their in-house publishing workflows. The board's feedback will directly impact the planning, development and testing processes for the company's future products and solutions, fine-tuning Adobe applications for the real needs of the market. No specific contact method was provided. Likely interested parties should contact their Adobe representative. Adobe has a general contact web site at ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1999 15:38:08-GMT,2853;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05403 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:38:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20810; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:33:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:29:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20411; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:29:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 11:29:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark Box to PDF From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990904152913.ODST22922.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, just goto Quark's site, and jump on the email list. Or goto to Apple's site and jump on the Applescript list and ask, many people from both lists will be happy to supply one. You could do it yourself, by opening script editor on your machine tuning record on, and going through the motions in Quark or most other apps, and then you'll have the script written for you. You then can edit it at will. ---------- >From: "S Khullar" >To: >Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark Box to PDF >Date: Sat, Sep 4, 1999, 12:38 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Any such script available on the net? > > Khullar > >>Applescript!! Quark is very Applwscript friendly, and Applescript is >>already on your macine, if you have a Mac. Otherwise, Visual Basic. >> > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1999 6:54:07-GMT,3122;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23556 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 00:54:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09570; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 01:47:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Sep 1999 01:44:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09319; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 01:44:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Peter Williams To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:44:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ For PDF security systems that allow a PDF to be printed only N times, what's to stop someone from copying the file M times and printing it (M+1)xN times? Peter -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Foss [mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 1999 9:08 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Just to confirm Richard's replies below, reps from both FileLock and the new WebBuy system from FatBrain told us here at Seybold yesterday that they can restrict print to disk' printing. rgds ~ Kurt | PDFzone.com _____ >> There is NO security for PDF's all you have to do is print it >> to a .ps file and any security you applied is removed. If you allow the >> printing of the document you allow people to have access to all pictures >> and text. > >I think File Open secures and stops the 'Print to file' option >http://www.fileopen.com/ > >Adobe announced the prerelease of Webbuy today. This handles security. >Perhaps it will handle print restriction? >http://cgi1.adobe.com/acrobat/webbuy/webbuybeta.html _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1999 12:15:11-GMT,1773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29493 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 06:15:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29161; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 07:11:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Sep 1999 07:09:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28976; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 07:09:07 -0500 X-Envelope-To: Message-ID: <37D25CCB.38A542BC@tefl.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 14:06:35 +0200 From: TEFL Professional Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Adobe PDF Merchant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know where we could get more info on the new Adobe PDF Merchant system, details, pricing, availability etc? Many thanks David McDowall _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1999 14:22:41-GMT,2662;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01815 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 08:22:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04296; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:17:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:15:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04172; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:15:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199909051415.KAA02093@smtp6.mindspring.com> Subject: [PDF] Converting PostScript for Distiller Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 19:29:02 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ khullar wondered; >The problem here is different. I have a linotronic 330 device. My clients >send me PS files created for Linotronic device. I am trying to use distiller >or GSView (of GhostScript) to preview the file before its RIPed. >> >>As we have discussed MANY times on this list, PostScript is a >>device-DEPENDENT language. PostScript generated for a "Linotronic" >>device may fail for another device such as a LaserJet or the >>Acrobat Distiller. If you want/need PostScript that properly >>distills, you generate PostScript using the PPD that comes >>with Acrobat. >> >> - Dov I came across an application called PROscript that provides a way to batch process PostScript into new PostScript or EPS files - provides a way to embed fonts and quite a few other useful things...it "might" help... http://www.cuttingedge.com (or cuttingedge.no) .. or email one of the authors - tor@cuttingedge.no Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa corporation 200 Balardvale Street MS 200-4-5H WIlmington, MA 01887-1069 978.658.0200 press 1 then 5504 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1999 14:45:10-GMT,3373;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02226 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 08:45:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05890; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:42:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:40:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05655; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:40:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <024001bef57e$f068d880$8e462099@corp.adobe.com> References: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C033939CB@denver.quark.com> <024001bef57e$f068d880$8e462099@corp.adobe.com> Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:44:57 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: PDFzone Listowner Subject: [PDF] ADMIN> IMPORTANT Netiquette Reminder Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ A reminder on list policy seems appropriate. A couple recent threads have grown needlessly large, which has a detrimental impact on the digest version of the list and its archive. Please read & abide by the following. If you have questions, please email the listowner directly. Discussions of list policy should _in most cases_ not be conducted on the list; please stick to the topic -- Acrobat & PDF. Thanks in advance to everyone for your cooperation on this important detail. - PDFzone.com ___________________________________ I M P O R T A N T * N E T I Q U E T T E ___________________________________ EDIT PREVIOUS TEXT WHEN POSTING TO LISTS When publicly replying to a message posted to one of the PDFzone.com email lists, PLEASE take a few extra seconds to EDIT the previous message to which you are responding. Do NOT re-send the entire text of the original message back to all list subscribers -- hundreds or thousands, depending on the list -- who've already seen the message (at least) once. 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PDFzone.com Lists ListOwner _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1999 21:04:56-GMT,2558;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09779 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:04:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29616; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 16:00:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:57:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29313; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:57:24 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:29:21 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web Cc: Jimmy Stewart Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jimmy, if using a password to open the document is secure enough for your purposes, simply set it as part of the security settings. If not, you might look at either FileOpen (http://www.fileopen.com) or TimedOut (http://www.DigApp.com). Within a few months, Adobe should also have something available. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Is there a plug-in or other software which will prevent re-distribution of >.PDF files? > >For example, if I sell a book as a .PDF file on the web, is there a way to >encrypt a key or code which would allow the buyer to open the .PDF file, but >prevent anyone to whom the buyer may give a copy of the file from opening >it? > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 6-Sep-1999 0:53:44-GMT,4170;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14501 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:53:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10745; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:48:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:46:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10611; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:46:08 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 20:46:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Diana Holm To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > For PDF security systems that allow a PDF to be printed only N times, >what's to stop someone from copying the file M times and printing it >(M+1)xN times? Peter, With FileOpen PDF each document is given a unique identifier and print management is keyed to that identifier, which does not change when a copy is made. So it makes no difference whether the user prints an original or a copy. In terms of your equation, M is effectively held to 0, so N is constant. Best, Diana Diana Holm Director of Marketing FileOpen Systems Inc. 101 W. 85th St. #1-4 New York, NY 10024 212-501-9567 www.fileopen.com On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Peter Williams wrote: > For PDF security systems that allow a PDF to be printed only N times, what's > to stop someone from copying the file M times and printing it (M+1)xN times? > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Foss [mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 1999 9:08 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Securing .PDFs for sale across the web > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Just to confirm Richard's replies below, reps from both FileLock and the > new WebBuy system from FatBrain told us here at Seybold yesterday that they > can restrict print to disk' printing. > > rgds ~ Kurt | PDFzone.com > _____ > > >> There is NO security for PDF's all you have to do is print it > >> to a .ps file and any security you applied is removed. If you allow the > >> printing of the document you allow people to have access to all pictures > >> and text. > > > >I think File Open secures and stops the 'Print to file' option > >http://www.fileopen.com/ > > > >Adobe announced the prerelease of Webbuy today. This handles security. > >Perhaps it will handle print restriction? > >http://cgi1.adobe.com/acrobat/webbuy/webbuybeta.html > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 7:20:33-GMT,1954;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23067 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:20:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27990; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:14:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:08:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27431; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:08:32 -0500 Message-ID: <19990907070821.31806.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [192.250.113.22] From: "Richard Keegan" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 00:08:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hey Steve, I just read your reply. I agree. There is a serious flaw in the design and yes what I am trying to do is fundamentally dumb. Unfortunately the client doesn't seem to see it that way and as they're paying the old salary I guess I'll just have to come up with something. Cheers, Rich ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 7:28:37-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23227 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:28:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28968; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:25:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:22:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28722; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:22:31 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 02:26:05 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA28718 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. 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To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'Framers@frameusers.com'" Cc: "'Dov Isaacs'" , "'Roberto Perelman'" Subject: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:46:42 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Folks, (apologies to those who recieve this twice) I have just had a very strange problem that I am hoping somebody else has experienced, so they can help of course not becuase I like to see people suffer :)... I have a PDF file which I embedded into Frame (by reference), it imports with no errors and looks perfect, but when I print to a PS file and distill to PDF, the resultant kerning in the text of the new PDF has been completely screwed up -> 100% - 1000% increase. I can open the PDF independantly of Frame and print to hardcopy no problem, and I can open the PDF independantly of Frame in Acrobat (3/4) and the kerning is perfect. Anyone have any ideas what the hell is going on here? I have created EPS files from the PDF to get around this problem (using the INCLUDE DOCUMENT FONTS option from Illustrator), but I would really love to know why it's doing this for future ref... I have also embedded the font's in distiller and so on with no difference. Thanks, Dave..... 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:07:03-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23983 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:07:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00233; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:04:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:02:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA32766; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:02:52 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:06:22 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:11:24-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24062 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:11:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00700; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:08:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:07:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00502; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:06:59 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:10:26 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:14:35-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24144 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:14:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01102; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:11:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:10:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00908; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:10:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:13:48 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:14:50-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24152 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:14:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01101; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:11:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:10:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00888; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:10:22 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:13:48 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA00881 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:18:36-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24224 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:18:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01480; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:14:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:13:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01385; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:13:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:16:51 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA01368 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:18:36-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24221 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:18:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01479; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:14:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:13:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01366; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:13:23 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:16:51 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA01359 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:23:01-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24316 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:22:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01897; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:19:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:17:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01762; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:17:47 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:21:16 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA01752 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:23:02-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24319 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:23:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01898; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:19:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:17:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01764; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:17:47 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:21:16 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA01758 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:26:04-GMT,2698;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24370 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:26:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02420; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:22:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:21:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02242; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:21:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: Thomas Linden To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:14:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA02238 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Will we get these mail's until the 13:th of september? I have received about 20 of these the last 30 minutes Vänliga hälsningar/Best regards Eric Rahmqvist AB Thomas Lindén Computer Manager MCP thomas.linden@rahmqvist.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Domaschuk [SMTP:rdomaschuk@mail.bcop.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 10:21 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. > > Have a great week! > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran > -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:30:32-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24475 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:30:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02933; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:27:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:26:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02733; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:26:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:29:43 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA02705 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:30:46-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24485 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:30:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02925; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:27:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:26:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02711; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:26:22 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:29:43 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA02704 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA03717 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:37:11-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24605 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:37:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04007; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:34:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:33:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA03760; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:33:10 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:36:29 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA03731 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:37:15-GMT,2130;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24609 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:37:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04018; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:34:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:33:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA03835; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:33:21 -0500 From: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:26:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bef90a$be4f2680$ab7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I guess at least until the USA gets into work this morning :-( Then Kurt (the List Administrator) will try to sort it out! Darryl ----------------------------------- Will we get these mail's until the 13:th of september? I have received about 20 of these the last 30 minutes > I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. > > Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 8:38:23-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24628 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04101; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:35:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:33:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA03879; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:33:50 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 03:37:10 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA03873 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 9:58:24-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA26109 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09416; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:52:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:50:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09111; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:50:46 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:54:12 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA09101 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 9:58:24-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA26111 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09417; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:52:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:51:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09271; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:51:31 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:54:52 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA09267 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 9:58:24-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA26110 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09421; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:52:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:50:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09099; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:50:45 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:54:12 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA09094 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:00:47-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA26182 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:00:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09595; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:53:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:52:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09427; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:52:44 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:56:13 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA09423 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:50:52-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27329 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:50:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18720; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:46:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:45:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18476; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:45:44 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:49:03 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA18472 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:52:07-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27364 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18826; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:47:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:45:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18510; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:45:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:49:24 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA18505 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:52:08-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27365 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18904; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:48:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:46:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18658; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:46:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:50:04 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA18634 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:52:08-GMT,3368;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27369 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:52:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18953; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:48:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:46:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18702; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:46:58 -0500 Message-ID: <025b01bef91e$7ad7f120$0100a8c0@algonet.se> From: "Peter Reichel" To: References: <2.2.32.19990903173614.0098e380@env-sol.com> Subject: SV: [PDF] Acrobat 4 drains memory? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:48:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Return-Path: peter@originalab.se Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA18698 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Well, I run distiller on NT4 and still I see a rising memory consumption for AcroDist.exe in the TaskManager. How did you measure? About shutting down Distiller between jobs I don't restart it by manually. I want it to shut down and startup automatically when a postscript-file enters a watched folder, just as you could set it up to do in Acrobat 3. Peter Reichel ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Thiersch To: Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 drains memory? > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > There were some "memory leak" problems in the Beta versions of Acrobat 4, > but I tested specifically for this and they were not present in the > production version. > > My results were all measured on Win NT4, so your results may (and probably > will) be different if you are using a different platform. > > As for shutting down Distiller, in Windows it's do-able (although very > inconvenient) by just using the Task Manager and cancelling the Distiller > process. You can restart it at any time from the Start/Programs/Startup > menu. If you don't want it started by default when you boot, then just > remove it from the Startup menu folder, and run it only when you need it > (which is what I prefer to do). > > Tom Thiersch _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:54:04-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27387 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:54:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19295; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:50:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:49:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19020; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:49:02 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:52:26 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA19003 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:54:25-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27393 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:54:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19294; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:50:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:49:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19014; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:49:01 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:52:26 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA19001 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:54:25-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27394 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19378; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:50:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:49:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19178; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:49:31 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:52:46 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA19166 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:55:21-GMT,1776;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27426 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:55:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19646; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:51:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:50:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19325; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:50:31 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:53:47 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: SV: [PDF] Acrobat 4 drains memory? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA19316 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:55:24-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27430 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:55:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19647; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:51:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:50:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19323; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:50:31 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:53:47 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA19315 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:58:26-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27509 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:58:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20273; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:54:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:53:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19987; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:53:12 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:56:30 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA19945 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:58:27-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27511 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:58:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20271; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:54:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:53:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19973; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:53:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:56:30 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA19944 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:58:28-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27517 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:58:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20197; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:54:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:52:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19874; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:52:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:56:30 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA19870 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 10:59:40-GMT,2449;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27523 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 04:59:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20475; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:55:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:54:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20186; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:54:14 -0500 Message-ID: <005501bef91f$d556f1e0$7daa0d93@enator.se> From: "Ann Johansson" To: Subject: [PDF] linking to Acrobat document's pages from HTML Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:57:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everybody! I have a question concerning links from HTML to an Acrobat document. I work with Acrobat 4.0. I have two frames. One including a navigation bar, and one where different Acrobat documents are shown. In the navigation bar I have links to different Acrobat documents, but I also have links to different pages in one and the same Acrobat document. The HTML coding works the first time I klick on one of the links , but the next time, when I want to navigate to another page in the same Acrobat document via my navigation bar , nothing happens and the same page (3) in "document.pdf" is visible. Does anyone have a solution? Thankful for help, Ann Johansson _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:04:13-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27619 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:04:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21136; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:00:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:59:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20843; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:58:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:02:16 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:04:15-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27623 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:04:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21130; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:00:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:58:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20805; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:58:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:02:16 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA20801 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:04:26-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27628 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:04:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21153; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:00:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:59:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20848; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:58:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:02:16 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA20829 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:04:54-GMT,1793;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27634 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:04:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21137; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:00:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:59:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20830; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:58:55 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:02:16 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] linking to Acrobat document's pages from HTML Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA20807 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:07:01-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27683 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:07:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21798; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:03:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:02:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21539; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:02:17 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:05:40 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA21535 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:07:34-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27697 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:07:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21862; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:03:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:02:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21583; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:02:37 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:06:00 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:08:03-GMT,1793;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27717 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:08:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22013; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:04:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:03:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21632; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:02:58 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:06:20 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] linking to Acrobat document's pages from HTML Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA21628 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:08:19-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27724 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:08:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22048; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:04:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:03:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21742; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:03:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:06:41 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:10:57-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27768 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:10:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22471; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:06:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:05:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22211; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:05:40 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:09:03 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:11:00-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27772 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:10:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22507; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:07:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:05:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20220; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:54:21 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 05:57:31 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:11:07-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27776 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:11:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22523; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:07:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:05:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22284; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:05:53 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:09:23 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:11:39-GMT,1793;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27781 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:11:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22701; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:07:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:06:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22388; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:06:30 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:09:43 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] linking to Acrobat document's pages from HTML Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA22384 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:12:05-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27792 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:12:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22762; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:08:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:06:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22467; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:06:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:10:24 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:15:49-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27897 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:15:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23463; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:11:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:10:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23174; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:10:39 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:14:09 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:18:50-GMT,2700;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27945 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:18:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24065; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:14:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:13:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23764; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:13:11 -0500 From: "Alec (www.glopro.com)" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] linking to Acrobat document's pages from HTML Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:09:10 +1000 Message-ID: <000201bef921$bc4184c0$a660828b@sysgloproau> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ List owner, Please stop all these...they are clogging up my system. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Rob Domaschuk > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 9:06 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] linking to Acrobat document's pages from HTML > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. > > Have a great week! > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from > San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:19:10-GMT,2670;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27961 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:19:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24060; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:14:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:13:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23707; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:12:59 -0500 From: "Alec (www.glopro.com)" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:09:00 +1000 Message-ID: <000101bef921$b7f86960$a660828b@sysgloproau> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ List owner, Please stop all these...they are clogging up my system. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Rob Domaschuk > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 9:07 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. > > Have a great week! > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from > San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: > http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:19:27-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27976 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:19:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24197; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:15:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:14:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24009; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:14:09 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:17:34 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:22:28-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28024 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:22:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24740; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:18:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:17:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24497; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:17:15 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:20:37 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:23:29-GMT,1793;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28037 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:23:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24742; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:18:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:17:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24501; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:17:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:20:37 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] linking to Acrobat document's pages from HTML Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA24489 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until September 13, 1999 and will respond then. Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:24:00-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28057 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:23:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24910; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:19:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:17:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24623; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:17:55 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:21:17 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? 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Have a great week! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 11:51:19-GMT,1934;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28570 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:51:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27944; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:45:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:43:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27824; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:43:40 -0500 From: translat@ix.netcom.com Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:43:22 -0500 (CDT) To: alec@glopro.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: <19999774140314771@ix.netcom.com> Subject: [PDF] Job: Arabic PageMaker X-Mailer: Netcomplete v4.0, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello there, Is there anyone who can assist me by converting an Arabic Word file into PageMaker format? If so, could you please contact me privately with availability and rates? Thanks. Best regards, Adnane Ettayebi, Director Globe Translators and Interpreters, Inc. Phone: 1-201-662-5007 Fax: 1-201-662-3299 http://www2.netcom.com/~translat/globe.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 12:56:50-GMT,2242;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29902 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:56:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31350; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:26:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:24:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31258; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:24:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <023301bef929$6869eba0$1a04040a@ideaworks> References: <005501bef91f$d556f1e0$7daa0d93@enator.se> <023301bef929$6869eba0$1a04040a@ideaworks> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:28:46 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: PDFzone Listowner Subject: Re: [PDF] Have a great week! -- Ron Domaschuk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have put (so far) 128 of Rob Domaschuk's charming > automated replies Now that we've put an end to those runaway auto-reply mesages, let's please avoid starting a new thread to contemplate what we'd all like to do to him. Yes, it's fun to vent now and then, but list subscribers have far exceeded their quota for non-useful messages during the past few hours. Let's keep all subsequent discussions on topic, and return this list to its usual professional nature. Thanks - PDFzone.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 12:55:00-GMT,2067;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29859 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00257; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:45:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:44:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00123; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:43:59 -0500 From: joey_reyes@inod.com Message-Id: <9909079367.AA936708556@atrain.inod.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.30.00.7 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 20:38:29 -0400 To: Subject: [PDF] PDF Copy Inhibit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi to everybody! We are doing a PDF project here in our company and one of our clients wants that their files be written on a CD. And once their files are written on a CD, the user must have no access of copying the files into their hard disk. We have tried using the security options of Acrobat but still, it doesn't work. My question is, is there a utility out there that can do the job? Thanks. Joey _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 13:29:42-GMT,2644;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00642 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:29:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01892; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:05:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:04:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01784; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:04:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990907090939.009353f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 09:09:39 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. In-Reply-To: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895353CA@perm02.woodside.com .au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I have a PDF file which I embedded into Frame (by reference), it imports >with no errors and looks perfect, but when I print to a PS file and distill >to PDF, the resultant kerning in the text of the new PDF has been completely >screwed up -> 100% - 1000% increase. > How does Frame handle embedding PDFs? If it works the way PageMaker's PDF import works, you're getting an EPS of the PDF page, Level 1 and (unless I'm mistaken) without fonts embedded. I wonder if that isn't somehow involved in this situation? Since you can solve the problem the way you described, I'd suspect something of that nature. Will Frame let you force the font to be downloaded ahead of the PDF/EPS by including some text in the font in question in the document itself? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 13:30:19-GMT,2099;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00646 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:30:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03879; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:25:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:23:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03596; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:23:28 -0500 Message-ID: <37D511C0.E885406A@zoo.uvm.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 09:23:12 -0400 From: "Nancy H. Towle" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello! I've converted a powerpoint presentation to a pdf. Is there any way to actually make it run as a presentation once it is ftp'd to the web? So that instead of using the scroll bar to look at it, it just runs as a presentation? I'm using Acrobat 4.0. in a windows 95 environment. Thanks for any advice! Nancy ------------------------- Nancy Towle Financial Analysis & Budgeting The University of Vermont email: ntowle@zoo.uvm.edu phone: (802) 656-1160 -------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 16:07:36-GMT,3002;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05147 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:07:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19216; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:59:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:57:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19025; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:57:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37D511C0.E885406A@zoo.uvm.edu> References: <37D511C0.E885406A@zoo.uvm.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:45:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA19012 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9:23 AM -0400 9/7/99, Nancy H. Towle wrote: > I've converted a powerpoint presentation to a pdf. Is there any way >to actually make it run as a presentation once it is ftp'd to the web? >So that instead of using the scroll bar to look at it, it just runs as a >presentation? > Well, the simplist way is to just use "full screen viewing" which is pretty close to a presentation and you can use the mouse and keyboard to switch pages. However, if you're looking for auto-movement, transitions, etc. then there isn't any PUBLIC option that I'm aware of. Adobe has an internal plugin that turns Acrobat into a presentation package, but they've never made it public for reasons that I've never understood. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 16:08:12-GMT,2867;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05158 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:08:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19597; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:02:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:01:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19436; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:01:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:52:05 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Table of Contents, HTML to PDF and Watermarks Cc: Sean.Woodward@wdr.com, Lee.Garner@wdr.com, Janette.Stone@wdr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA19432 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 2:40 PM +0100 9/7/99, Sean.Woodward@wdr.com wrote: > 1. Convert HTML to PDF on an NT Server running Domino for the Web > Server. See HTMLDoc at . > 2. Automatically set up and display page numbering on the resulting > PDF on the server > > 3. Automatically set up a table of contents with accurate page > numbering See AppendPDF Pro at . > 4. Embed a background watermark on some of the PDF's See StampPDF Batch at . Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 16:14:39-GMT,2693;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05313 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:14:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20136; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:07:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:05:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19925; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:05:55 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990907121059.00887100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:10:59 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ In-Reply-To: <37D511C0.E885406A@zoo.uvm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I've converted a powerpoint presentation to a pdf. Is there any way >to actually make it run as a presentation once it is ftp'd to the web? >So that instead of using the scroll bar to look at it, it just runs as a >presentation? > You can open the PDF in Exchange/Acrobat and set it to start full screen and optionally not to show any of the usual AcroFurniture ... toolbars, title bar etc., but then you'd have to provide navigation tools so the user can do interesting things like quit when they've had enough. ,-) I think that the default transition and timing are Reader prefs ... ie, they're set on each user's machine. ISTR that you can embed PDFMark code that sets these the way you want them for your presentation. That would require using Distiller rather than PDFWriter, by the way. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 17:12:03-GMT,2443;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07052 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:12:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24475; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:48:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:46:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24184; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:46:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:43:56 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Developers Presentations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.com has now posted the presentation materials from the Adobe Acrobat Developers Conference on August 30, 1999. Go to: to get all 14. - Looking Back - Paper-to-PDF Marketing Directions - Prepress Features in Adobe Acrobat 4.0 and PDF 1.3 - Top 10 Questions About Acrobat Forms - Adobe Document Server - Structured PDF & Meta Data - Acrobat 4.0 Security - Accessibility Overview - Accessibility: Speech Enabling Acrobat - Server Accessibility Solutions - CJK and World Ready Features in Acrobat 4.0 - Development Tools - Adobe Solutions Network - A Leveraged PDF Vision ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 17:37:10-GMT,4008;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07746 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:37:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28323; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:30:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:27:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28095; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:27:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] General Info - Title Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:26:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA28091 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there an automated way to make the Filename of the document the Title (under General Info)? The Title seems to be a convoluted mismatch of numbers and letters. When a search is done using the Catalog Index it displays the convoluted temp file name. Is there any easier way than manually changing each one? thanks ________________________________ Darin Brackett Network One mailto:darin@net1.com Portland 503-242-4210 http://www.net1.com ________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Leonard Rosenthol [SMTP:leonardr@lazerware.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:52 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: Sean.Woodward@wdr.com; Lee.Garner@wdr.com; Janette.Stone@wdr.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Table of Contents, HTML to PDF and Watermarks > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > At 2:40 PM +0100 9/7/99, Sean.Woodward@wdr.com wrote: > > 1. Convert HTML to PDF on an NT Server running Domino for the Web > > Server. > > See HTMLDoc at . > > > > 2. Automatically set up and display page numbering on the resulting > > PDF on the server > > > > 3. Automatically set up a table of contents with accurate page > > numbering > > See AppendPDF Pro at . > > > > 4. Embed a background watermark on some of the PDF's > > See StampPDF Batch at . > > > > > Leonard > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Leonard Rosenthol Internet: > leonardr@lazerware.com > America Online: MACgician > Web Site: > FTP Site: > PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran > -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 13:38:47-GMT,2441;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00851 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:38:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01361; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:00:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:59:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01222; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:59:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990907090405.008d96f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 09:04:05 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting text from PDF ??? In-Reply-To: <19990907070821.31806.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I just read your reply. I agree. There is a serious flaw in the design and >yes what I am trying to do is fundamentally dumb. Unfortunately the client >doesn't seem to see it that way and as they're paying the old salary I guess >I'll just have to come up with something. Sigh. One of life's little "DUH" episodes, I guess. It might be worth printing the PDFs to PS and having a look to see if you can determine any pattern from which you can extract the data. I had a reasonable amount of success at this once when I had to suck a mailing list out of a help file. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 13:47:40-GMT,3249;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01045 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 07:47:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05836; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:42:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:41:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05685; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:41:21 -0500 From: Sean.Woodward@wdr.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:40:36 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: [PDF] Table of Contents, HTML to PDF and Watermarks MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Lee.Garner@wdr.com, Janette.Stone@wdr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: BrianWare hpomsmf V2.3.40, 19 May 1999 X-WDR-Disclaimer: Version $Revision: 1.13 $ Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi We are currently putting an application to gether that has the following requirements. 1. Convert HTML to PDF on an NT Server running Domino for the Web Server. 2. Automatically set up and display page numbering on the resulting PDF on the server 3. Automatically set up a table of contents with accurate page numbering 4. Embed a background watermark on some of the PDF's Any help on part of all of the solution will be very much appreciated Cheers Sean Woodward This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. 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This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 14:14:54-GMT,2044;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01752 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:14:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08328; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:09:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:07:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08158; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:07:49 -0500 From: "Diana Holm" To: Cc: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Copy Inhibit Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:11:47 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bef943$4d9fdcc0$c1dda4d8@f2gvt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <9909079367.AA936708556@atrain.inod.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Joey, Our product FileOpen PDF will enable you to lock documents to the CD-ROM with no ability to open them from the hard disk (or anywhere else). For more information please contact me offlist and be sure to visit our web site, www.fileopen.com. Best, _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 14:19:08-GMT,2464;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01849 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:18:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08886; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:13:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:12:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08723; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:12:35 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9909079367.AA936708556@atrain.inod.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:05:39 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Copy Inhibit Cc: joey_reyes@inod.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Joey, you might contact Digital Applications (http://www.DigApp.com) or FileOpen (http://www.fileopen.com) and see if they have a possibility to prohibit any reading access at all to the CD. It could be that you would need some additional custom development. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ > We are doing a PDF project here in our company and one of our clients > wants that their files be written on a CD. And once their files are > written on a CD, the user must have no access of copying the files > into their hard disk. We have tried using the security options of > Acrobat but still, it doesn't work. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 17:40:55-GMT,2004;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07874 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:40:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28867; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:33:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:31:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28567; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:31:56 -0500 Message-ID: <37D54B23.FEAD3E52@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:28:03 -0700 From: two turtles Organization: Two Turtles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04C-PBI-NC404 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Video on PDFs References: <199909012033.PAA26858@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have some MPG files that I am trying to get to work on pdfs. The MPG on the pdfs work when on MAC, but the video will not play (with audio) on the PC. What format would be best to convert to (.mov or .avi)? I've tried the conversion in Quick Time Pro, but seem to think I need to recompress in Premier. Any advice? Thanks in advance Two Turtles _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 18:42:53-GMT,2466;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09658 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:42:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01963; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:34:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:31:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01619; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:31:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:34:18 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] Table of Contents, HTML to PDF and Watermarks Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > 2. Automatically set up and display page numbering on the resulting > PDF on the server StampPDF Batch will do page numbering and Bates numbering. > 3. Automatically set up a table of contents with accurate page > numbering AppendPDF Pro, CoreDossier (http://www.esps.com) and PDF Fusion (http://www.docctrl.com/) can all build a table of contents; though, they may be overkill for this application. You can also build new contents pages using PDFLib http://www.pdflib.com. > 4. Embed a background watermark on some of the PDF's > Again, StampPDF Batch. More information on StampPDF Batch and AppendPDF, AppendPDF Pro can be found on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 19:24:59-GMT,2569;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10770 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05639; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:16:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:15:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05524; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:15:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199909071915.MAA13202@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:15:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Developers Presentations From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> PDFzone.com has now posted the presentation materials from >>the Adobe Acrobat Developers Conference on August 30, 1999. >> > > FWIW, the Leeds presentation appears to be unworkable in older versions of > Exchange. Reader 4 opens it w/o complaint, but Exchange 3 complains about > references to a color space, stuff that it doesn't understand, then > displays black pages. Steve: My experience is that those symptoms would indicate a sure sign of an Acrobat 4-compatible document. I'll ask a PDF-god to check it out. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 19:44:17-GMT,2364;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11293 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05082; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:10:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:09:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04986; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:09:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990907151401.0092c4b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:14:01 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Developers Presentations In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > PDFzone.com has now posted the presentation materials from >the Adobe Acrobat Developers Conference on August 30, 1999. > FWIW, the Leeds presentation appears to be unworkable in older versions of Exchange. Reader 4 opens it w/o complaint, but Exchange 3 complains about references to a color space, stuff that it doesn't understand, then displays black pages. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 20:02:44-GMT,2452;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11795 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:02:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09253; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:56:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:55:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09106; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:55:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990907151401.0092c4b0@pop.iglou.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990907151401.0092c4b0@pop.iglou.com> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:49:58 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Developers Presentations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > FWIW, the Leeds presentation appears to be unworkable in older versions of > Exchange. Reader 4 opens it w/o complaint, but Exchange 3 complains about > references to a color space, stuff that it doesn't understand, then > displays black pages. Steve et al, On further inspection, I note that several of the Adobe presentations were produced with *Distiller v.405* for Windows; one of those is the Leeds PDF. Source of the problem? By the way, not all of the PDFs were optimized. And there seems to be a mix of PDF1.2 and 1.3 files. rgds ~ Kurt ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 20:02:44-GMT,2267;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11794 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07523; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:39:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:37:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07332; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:37:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990907154209.00930d70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:42:09 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Developers Presentations In-Reply-To: <199909071915.MAA13202@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >My experience is that those symptoms would indicate a sure sign of an >Acrobat 4-compatible document. I'll ask a PDF-god to check it out. > Properties says Distiller 4.05 made it. And I see they thanked you personally in one of the documents on the list. Can't think of anybody more deserving. Unless it's Karl or Kurt or Aandi or any of the others they also mentioned. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 20:02:53-GMT,2397;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11800 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:02:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07037; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:32:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:30:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06781; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:30:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909071915.MAA13202@sun630mp.infomania.com> References: <199909071915.MAA13202@sun630mp.infomania.com> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:27:53 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Developers Presentations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >> PDFzone.com has now posted the presentation materials from > >>the Adobe Acrobat Developers Conference on August 30, 1999. > >> > > > > FWIW, the Leeds presentation appears to be unworkable in older versions of > > Exchange. Reader 4 opens it w/o complaint, but Exchange 3 complains about > > references to a color space, stuff that it doesn't understand, then > > displays black pages. > >Steve: > >My experience is that those symptoms would indicate a sure sign of an >Acrobat 4-compatible document. I'll ask a PDF-god to check it out. > >Rich Yes, They have all been optimized with Acrobat 4, so the Acrobat Reader 3 could potentially have problems with them. Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 20:03:25-GMT,2179;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11801 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:02:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09458; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:58:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:56:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09316; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:56:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990907160157.0092c920@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 16:01:57 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Developers Presentations In-Reply-To: References: <199909071915.MAA13202@sun630mp.infomania.com> <199909071915.MAA13202@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > They have all been optimized with Acrobat 4, so the Acrobat >Reader 3 could potentially have problems with them. Two of the 6 or so I downloaded made Exchange 3 unhappy. The others were fine. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 20:09:07-GMT,2873;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11979 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:09:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09854; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:01:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:00:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09675; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:00:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199909072000.NAA14121@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 13:00:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Developers Presentations From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>My experience is that those symptoms would indicate a sure sign of an >>Acrobat 4-compatible document. I'll ask a PDF-god to check it out. >> > > Properties says Distiller 4.05 made it. Okay, it's time to needle my friends at Adobe. Shouldn't a doc destined for a mass audience be made Acrobat 3-compatible? Rhetorical question. Yes, of course, they should. > And I see they thanked you personally in one of the documents on the list. > Can't think of anybody more deserving. Unless it's Karl or Kurt or Aandi > or any of the others they also mentioned. Thanks for noticing and for the compliment. The others mentioned, and many not mentioned, are deserving of recognition for their contributions as well. My new boss's name was on there, too. > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 20:09:25-GMT,2997;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11988 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:09:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09434; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:57:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:56:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09221; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:56:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199909071956.MAA14007@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:56:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Developers Presentations From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> >> PDFzone.com has now posted the presentation materials from >> >>the Adobe Acrobat Developers Conference on August 30, 1999. >> >> >> > >> > FWIW, the Leeds presentation appears to be unworkable in older versions of >> > Exchange. Reader 4 opens it w/o complaint, but Exchange 3 complains about >> > references to a color space, stuff that it doesn't understand, then >> > displays black pages. >> >>Rich Sprague wrote to Steve Rindsberg: >> >>My experience is that those symptoms would indicate a sure sign of an >>Acrobat 4-compatible document. I'll ask a PDF-god to check it out. >> >>Rich > > Yes, > They have all been optimized with Acrobat 4, so the Acrobat > Reader 3 could potentially have problems with them. > > Steve Veloff > sjveloff@pdfzone.com Steve-list-god responds. Thank you for listening. Can these things be refried and put up as Acrobat 3-compatible docs? I doubt if the majority of the 100 million Readers are version 4. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 20:16:50-GMT,2362;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12205 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:16:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10736; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:10:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:08:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10564; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:08:53 -0500 Message-ID: <5DD24B8ECC99D211ABEE00104B7A9C8D237847@DDSMTTAYZ043> From: "Hottman, Dave, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing Color PDF to B/W Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:08:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have a large set of color PDFs. The PDFs use colored (red,blue,magenta) text to indicate that something has changed. We reproduce a limited number of black and white paper copies from these PDFs. When the color text is printed to a black and white laser printer (HP5Si), much of the colored text is unreadable. Until recently this data was printed directly from the Framemaker source files and the paper copies were acceptable. The Framemaker print option "print spot color as black/white" was used to achieve good results. The files must now be printed after conversion to PDF, rather than directly from the Framemaker source files. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to "convert spot color to black/white" when printing to baclk and white? Thanks _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 20:41:05-GMT,2140;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12801 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:41:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13221; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:34:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:32:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13055; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:32:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909071956.MAA14007@sun630mp.infomania.com> References: <199909071956.MAA14007@sun630mp.infomania.com> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:21:23 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Developers Presentations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Can these things be refried and put up as Acrobat 3-compatible docs? I doubt > if the majority of the 100 million Readers are version 4. Rich et al, As these are Adobe's official presentations provided to us for distribution, and as Adobe discourages the "refrying" process, I'm a bit reluctant to do anything to their files without expressed approval. I'll look into that -- or the possibility of getting different versions directly from Adobe. rgds ~ Kurt _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 20:52:44-GMT,1952;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13119 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:52:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14198; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:45:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:43:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14022; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:43:40 -0500 Message-ID: <51A7DDE1CD04D311854200500471F3810D83D1@sleepy.nonstop.com> From: "Deborah Maizels" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] batch print to pdf files? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:43:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, We're using MSAccess on a PC to generate reports that are then printed to file using Acrobat 4.0's PDFWriter as the default printer. We have a number of reports that need to be processed daily so we'd like to set up a batch job. Does anyone know a way to set up a batch print to file? Or any programs that might help in this situation? thanks, Deborah Maizels _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 21:01:59-GMT,2350;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13440 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15114; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:55:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:54:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14990; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:54:25 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Color PDF to B/W Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:54:16 +0100 Message-ID: <004701bef973$26302fc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <5DD24B8ECC99D211ABEE00104B7A9C8D237847@DDSMTTAYZ043> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We have a large set of color PDFs. The PDFs use colored > (red,blue,magenta) > text to indicate that something has changed. > > We reproduce a limited number of black and white paper copies > from these > PDFs. When the color text is printed to a black and white > laser printer > (HP5Si), much of the colored text is unreadable. Our product Quite A Box Of Tricks has an "all text to black" function. That may do it. http://www.quite.com/box/. I use two templates when designing Frame documents, to make an online one and a printable one. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 21:42:28-GMT,2440;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14573 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:42:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19202; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:36:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:34:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18921; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:34:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199909072133.OAA23608@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:34:46 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Find Problem for Acrobat 4/FrameMaker distilled PDFs From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Zone Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry if I missed an archived thread, but... I just converted a bunch of FrameMaker 5.5 documents on WIN 98 with Helvetica (primarily). I used Acrobat Distiller 4.0. The PDF conversions look and print normally although the Helvetica appears to have been converted to MSTT fonts. The problem with this is the documents do not FIND or SEARCH anything in this font, although they will FIND or SEARCH other fonts within the same documents. Can anyone explain a way to convert Helvetica without it converting to the MSTT fonts - or otherwise suggest a solution that will reinstate finding and searchability? -- Thanks, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 23:08:49-GMT,3907;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16936 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:08:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24087; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:23:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:21:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23760; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:21:07 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990907150811.00a815f0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:16:34 -0700 To: "Acrobat Talk" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Re: Adobe Acrobat icon does not appear on the .pdf files Cc: "Justin Anderson" , In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9/7/99 05:54 PM , Justin Anderson wrote: >My problem is this: the Adobe Acrobat icon does not appear on the .pdf files >on a CD-ROM we produced for internal use. I created the .pdf files on may >MAC >and transferred the files to a UNIX system. The files were then transferred >from that UNIX system to the CD-ROM. > >Were does the problem lie? Is there a setting on the MAC or on a UNIX system >that needs to be enabled to retain the Adobe symbol? The files open >correctly, >have all the links, etc. How do we retain the Adobe graphic with the pdf >file? > >Thanks, > >Justin Anderson Justin, I am assuming that your concern is that "the Adobe Acrobat icon" does not appear when mounting that CD-ROM on a Macintosh. Correct? Some simple principles: (1) On a Windows-based system, the Acrobat icon appears if and only if Acrobat has been installed on the system in question AND the file has the suffix ".pdf" (upper or lower case). (2) On a MacOS system, the Acrobat icon appears if and only if the file was created or saved on a Macintosh AND the file was always MacOS file system resident. On a Macintosh, the icon is stored in the PDF file's "resource fork" as opposed to the file's "data fork." From a Macintosh point of view, non-Macintosh systems (other than servers emulating the Macintosh file systems) have only "data forks." Thus, if you copy a Mac-created/saved PDF file to a UNIX system and then back to either the same or a different Macintosh, you have likely lost the file's resource fork containing both the icon and the information as to which program processes the file when double-clicked upon. The only way that you can retain the resource fork is if your UNIX file system is emulating the Macintosh file system, maintaining the contents of the resource fork "someplace" in the file system such that access to the file or copying it back to a Mac also retrieves that original resource fork portion of the file. Simple? Huh? - Dov _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 23:53:24-GMT,2243;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17958 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:53:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31865; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:47:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:44:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31660; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:44:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:40:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990907234156.BSXV22922.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Nancy, Yes, File>Preferences>Full Screen.... You can have automated, or interactive. You can also ustilize Javascript. Who needs Powerpoint? Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF > Hello! > I've converted a powerpoint presentation to a pdf. Is there any way > to actually make it run as a presentation once it is ftp'd to the web? > So that instead of using the scroll bar to look at it, it just runs as a > presentation? > > I'm using Acrobat 4.0. in a windows 95 environment. Thanks for any > advice! > > Nancy _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1999 23:57:46-GMT,2925;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18055 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:57:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32456; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:54:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:52:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA32312; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:52:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199909072352.QAA19643@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 16:52:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Jason Belec :)~ > Digital Workflows Specialist, > especially PDF wrote: > Nancy, > > Yes, File>Preferences>Full Screen.... You can have automated, or > interactive. You can also ustilize Javascript. Who needs Powerpoint? She probably does, if she wants to make the presentation in the first place. To the best of my knowledge, one still needs a base application which to design in, before one distills a PDF, and Powerpoint is a heckuva lot easier than high-end design programs for this sort of task. >> Hello! >> I've converted a powerpoint presentation to a pdf. Is there any way >> to actually make it run as a presentation once it is ftp'd to the web? >> So that instead of using the scroll bar to look at it, it just runs as a >> presentation? >> >> I'm using Acrobat 4.0. in a windows 95 environment. Thanks for any >> advice! Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 0:18:24-GMT,3225;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18650 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:18:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01257; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:14:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:13:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01142; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:13:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199909080013.AAA136052@out2.ibm.net> From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Cc: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Date: Tue, 07 Sep 99 20:09:44 +0700 X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PDF] What software will . . . ? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please suggest what software meets my requirement. I am a newbie with simple needs: 1-Take in color graphics which can be used as a template e.g. for headers on technical datasheets. 2-Take in or create text which appears on a different layer, so it can either surround or overlay the graphic as necessary. 3-Output as Postscript, or even better Postscript and PDF. 4-Run as 16-bit Windows code (Win3.1 or 3.11), or 32-bit code up to Ver 1.25 of the Win32 extender, or run on OS/2. (I am running OS/2 but can run certain versions of Windows.) Basically I need to create a number of two-layer technical documents to print as Postscript and also put up on a website. I am told Quark and Pagemaker meet the above requirements but current versions seem to run only on Win95 or later which are not available to me. I am interested in any possible solutions including currently available commercial software, shareware, or an outdated version of commercial software which I could pick up in the secondary market. (For example, I just picked up a copy of Acrobat Pro 2.1 which does exactly what I need as 16-bit code. I am very happy with it.) If someone has not only a "second-hand solution" but the actual outdated package for sale, so much the better. (Contact me privately in this case.) Many thanks. Dr. Jeffrey Race, President Cambridge Electronics Laboratories 20 Chester Street, Somerville MA 02144-3005 USA Tel +1 617 625-7645 (res) Tel +1 617 629-2805 (ofc) Fax +1 617 623-1882 Tel +1 617 823-2941/504-4124 (mobile--sometimes on) _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 1:34:17-GMT,1594;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20498 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07724; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:29:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:26:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07535; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:26:51 -0500 From: Shellie619@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:25:59 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF In Frame Font Problem. To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Get this guy's mail list deleted - please!!!!! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 3:17:30-GMT,2375;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22881 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:17:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17987; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:12:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:10:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17715; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:10:18 -0500 From: joey_reyes@inod.com Message-Id: <9909079367.AA936760544@atrain.inod.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.30.00.7 Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 11:03:38 -0400 To: , Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] PDF Copy Inhibit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Diana, Thanks a lot. We will try your evaluation copy and if it works, we will surely purchase a copy from you. Thanks again for your big help. And Kudos to all the pdfzone subscribers. Best regards. Joey ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Copy Inhibit Author: "Diana Holm" at INTERNET Date: 9/7/99 11:11 AM Joey, Our product FileOpen PDF will enable you to lock documents to the CD-ROM with no ability to open them from the hard disk (or anywhere else). For more information please contact me offlist and be sure to visit our web site, www.fileopen.com. Best, _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 3:58:32-GMT,4039;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23847 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:58:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21536; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:53:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:52:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21408; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:52:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990907150811.00a815f0@mail-303> References: <4.2.0.58.19990907150811.00a815f0@mail-303> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:19:37 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "Acrobat Talk" From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: [PDF] Re: Adobe Acrobat icon does not appear on the .pdf files Cc: "Justin Anderson" , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id WAA21404 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 3:16 PM -0700 9/7/99, Dov Isaacs wrote: >(2) On a MacOS system, the Acrobat icon appears if and only if the >file was created or saved on a Macintosh AND the file was always >MacOS file system resident. That's not entirely true. There are a number of ways (MacBinary, BinHex, StuffIt, etc.) to transmit a MacOS file through non-MacOS systems and have the file system info retained. >On a Macintosh, the icon is stored in >the PDF file's "resource fork" as opposed to the file's "data fork." To be entirely accurate, data files do NOT have icons contained inside them (files with custom icons being the exception) - the icon is determine dynamically by the Finder by looking up the file's type & creator in the "Desktop Database". A file's type and creator is actually stored outside of the forks in a placed called the "Finder Info". >Thus, if you copy a Mac-created/saved PDF file to a UNIX system and >then back to either the same or a different Macintosh, you have likely >lost the file's resource fork containing both the icon and the information >as to which program processes the file when double-clicked upon. As noted above, the issue isn't the loss of the resource fork (since PDF files don't have one), but the loss of the Finder Info (type & creator). >The only >way that you can retain the resource fork is if your UNIX file system >is emulating the Macintosh file system, Or if you encode it in one of the above listed formats that maintains the information....HOWEVER, keep in mind that if you were to put the files back onto a Mac they wouldn't have the original info until decoded. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 8:59:49-GMT,2425;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00339 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 02:59:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08548; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 03:51:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 03:46:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08188; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 03:46:07 -0500 Message-ID: <000201bef9eb$089f7010$6464a8c0@dirk> From: "dirk pauwels" To: References: <19990907234156.BSXV22922.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Subject: Re: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:52:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Nancy, > > Yes, File>Preferences>Full Screen.... You can have automated, or > interactive. You can also ustilize Javascript. Who needs Powerpoint? The settings are application, and not document settings (for the slideshow part) Or is there a way to reach the seetings trough Javascript? FOr as far as I know, a javascript can not fill in a dialog. If it can, I am very interested in some documentation about that .... Greetings Dirk Pauwels Grafisch Vormgever Kenniscentrum Productiedesign VDAB Productontwikkeling dpauwels@skynet.be dpauwels@vdab.be www.vdab.be tel ++32 (0)14 44 51 99 fax ++32 (0)14 44 51 81 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 9:57:38-GMT,2042;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01592 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 03:57:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11923; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 04:45:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 04:44:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11820; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 04:44:03 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01bef9de$dcd5fd20$0a0aa8c0@netman> From: "Richard Cheesmar" To: Subject: [PDF] Changing Bookmark graphics and fonts AND time limiting access to pdf files Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:45:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, 1. Can anyone tell me if it is possible to change the attributes of the Adobe Acrobat (4.0) bookmarks such as graphics and fonts etc. 2. Is it possible to limit the access to a pdf file after a certain date has expired. Thanks in advance for any help Richard Cheesmar richard@medscape.co.uk _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 11:55:48-GMT,2547;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03802 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 05:55:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20213; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 06:48:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 06:46:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20026; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 06:45:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000d01bef9de$dcd5fd20$0a0aa8c0@netman> References: <000d01bef9de$dcd5fd20$0a0aa8c0@netman> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:38:48 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing Bookmark graphics and fonts AND time limiting access to pdf files Cc: richard@medscape.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA20022 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:45 AM +0100 9/8/99, Richard Cheesmar wrote: >Is it possible to limit the access to a pdf file after a certain date has >expired. > See TimedOut from Digital Applications (). Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 12:50:19-GMT,2687;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04872 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 06:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23501; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:27:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:26:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23345; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:26:00 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000d01bef9de$dcd5fd20$0a0aa8c0@netman> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:25:56 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing Bookmark graphics and fonts AND time limiting access to pdf files Cc: "Richard Cheesmar" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Richard, In Acrobat 4, it is not possible to modify the font for the bookmarks; it is hardwired. For limiting the access to PDF files, there are several possibilities, where most are using a plug-in. You might look for products by Digital Applications (http://www.DigApp.com), or by PDFOpen (http://www.pdfopen.com). A very simple, but easily to fool, solution would be a document-level JavaScript which would check for today's date, compare it with the expiration date, and then simply close the document. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >1. >Can anyone tell me if it is possible to change the attributes of the Adobe >Acrobat (4.0) bookmarks such as graphics and fonts etc. > >2. >Is it possible to limit the access to a pdf file after a certain date has >expired. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 13:15:14-GMT,2197;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05400 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:15:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27376; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:08:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:07:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27211; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:07:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990908091204.008ddd20@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:12:04 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ In-Reply-To: <19990907234156.BSXV22922.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.2 49]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > Yes, File>Preferences>Full Screen.... You can have automated, or >interactive. That's fine for one's own machine, but those settings have no effect on the PDF itself. In other words, it may auto-advance on your machine, but that doesn't mean it will on mine. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 13:27:58-GMT,3825;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05647 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:27:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29061; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:21:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:20:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28793; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:20:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990908092544.008876f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:25:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ In-Reply-To: <199909072352.QAA19643@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >She probably does, if she wants to make the presentation in the first place. >To the best of my knowledge, one still needs a base application which to >design in, before one distills a PDF, and Powerpoint is a heckuva lot easier >than high-end design programs for this sort of task. > True, but it's best to be aware of certain quirks in PPT's PS output and/or arguments it gets into with PDFWriter if that's the way you choose to make PDF. PS: Gradients can be a real nightmare. Whether it's the fault of PPT or the fact that it relies on the driver/GDI to make gradients, the results are sometimes awful, at least coming out of NT. (Reminder to self: test on Win95/98). Horizongal white lines show up at what appear to be random intervals; how many you see and whether you see them depends on the PDF view magnification. It's actually not random - seems to be a case of the PS assuming a specific device rez and hardcoding rectangles to that rez. Run the PS to a different rez and the rectangles don't quite match up. Really awful PS - gazillions of individual rectangles where a simple PS procedure would not only have reduced the amount of PS to a few lines of code, but could have made it resolution-independent (or rather optimized to the resolution of the device it's running on). Tends to put a white line at top and left of PDF image; seems to be a rounding error problem in converting the PPD info to internal units. On the bright side, you can embed the transition PDFMark EPS files in the presentation and get some control over page transitions. PDFWriter: With default settings, locks up the machine a lot (Version 3 Acrostuff, Win95). That seems to stop if you turn off the View PDF option. Frequently produces all-black PDFs if you use gradient backgrounds. Workaround is to make the b/g black or white or whatever, then add a gradient filled rectangle to the Slide and Title masters. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 13:46:03-GMT,2337;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06011 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30641; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:36:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:34:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30500; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:34:38 -0500 From: "Fredrik Sjogren" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:42:36 +0200 Message-Id: <000501befa00$02900710$1901090a@graphics.intern.folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990908091204.008ddd20@pop.iglou.com> Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Yes, File>Preferences>Full Screen.... You can have automated, or > >interactive. > > > That's fine for one's own machine, but those settings have no > effect on the > PDF itself. In other words, it may auto-advance on your machine, but that > doesn't mean it will on mine. I´l think thats possiple with Acrobat 4 and PDF maker (a sort of plug for PPT and Word). I know Adobe Scandinavia does all their presentations i PPT and then convert it to PDF with transitions. \\\fred _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 14:45:58-GMT,2139;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07543 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:45:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03945; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:38:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:36:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03670; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:36:58 -0500 Message-ID: <001601befa06$c1d593a0$f23770c2@win95> From: "Peter Mathews" To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Watermarks in PDF Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:27:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sean Woodward wrote... We are currently putting an application to gether that has the following requirements...... ---> 4. Embed a background watermark on some of the PDF's Try our PDF Protector product, at www.computerstream.co.uk for the eval version. You might want to contact me about the complete solution using PDF Publisher/Merge product. I shall send you details separately if you need them. Regards Peter. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 14:51:56-GMT,3250;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07714 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:51:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04958; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:45:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:44:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04832; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:44:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990908104931.0092a6f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:49:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ In-Reply-To: <000501befa00$02900710$1901090a@graphics.intern.folksam.se> References: <3.0.5.32.19990908091204.008ddd20@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA04825 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> That's fine for one's own machine, but those settings have no >> effect on the >> PDF itself. In other words, it may auto-advance on your machine, but that >> doesn't mean it will on mine. > >I´l think thats possiple with Acrobat 4 and PDF maker (a sort of plug for >PPT and Word). I know Adobe Scandinavia does all their presentations i PPT >and then convert it to PDF with transitions. > It's simple enough to test for yourself. Create a PDF with automatic advances (or at least so that it works that way on your machine.) Save it. Now set preferences to no automatic advance in your own copy of Reader, same machine and open the file again in full screen mode. Does it automatically advance or not? The point is that you *can* do this on your own machine, since you can control the Reader defaults/preferences. You can't, however, assume that everyone else's defaults will be set the same way, and you can't change the defaults on somebody else's machine with the PDF files you create. You can override the transitions, yes, but I can't see any way of forcing the PDF to automatically advance from slide to slide on another computer. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 15:05:10-GMT,2148;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08084 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:05:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06491; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:00:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:59:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06372; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:59:18 -0500 From: "Diana Holm" To: Cc: Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing Bookmark graphics and fonts AND time limitingaccess to pdf files Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:03:17 -0400 Message-ID: <000001befa13$aa36e700$3ded7ad1@f2gvt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > You might look for products by Digital Applications > (http://www.DigApp.com), or by PDFOpen (http://www.pdfopen.com). > Max, did you mean to say FileOpen (www.fileopen.com) here? The product is FileOpen PDF, and does have document expiration features. Thanks for the mention if that was your intention. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 15:15:37-GMT,2391;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08364 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:15:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07550; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:09:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:08:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07393; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:08:22 -0500 Message-ID: <005d01befa0c$0899c7c0$6cd3d99b@aatd.eustis.army.mil> From: "Paul Redden" To: References: <001601befa06$c1d593a0$f23770c2@win95> Subject: [PDF] create thumnails in large documents Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:06:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've been using Acrobat 4.0 alone and with the "Options" plug-in. So far it has worked very well but I am now starting to do some very large documents (large in number of pages not necessarily in file size). Options seems to lock up but I'm sure it is working behind the scenes I just can't tell what its doing. Using Acrobat 4.0 works and counts the pages so you can monitor progress. When it reaches page 5000 it suddenly slows to about 10% of its former speed. These pages are each Tiff images. Is there anyway to efficiently create thumbnails for files over 5000 pages? Paul Redden http://www.digital-antiquities.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 15:23:52-GMT,2328;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08615 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:23:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07799; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:11:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:10:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07601; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:10:25 -0500 Message-ID: <5DD24B8ECC99D211ABEE00104B7A9C8D237848@DDSMTTAYZ043> From: "Hottman, Dave, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Color PDF to B/W Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:10:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi >> Our product Quite A Box Of Tricks has an "all text to black" function. That may do it. http://www.quite.com/box/. << Thanks. Will take a look at it. >> I use two templates when designing Frame documents, to make an online one and a printable one. << Can't really do that here. I am trying to phase out paper of a governement agenecy that spends $1M annually in reproduction costs. We are basically putting an image of the paper to the web. We then print to paper from the web to ensure that the paper version and electronic versions match exactly. Lawsuits happen when they don't match exactly. When I have gotten rid of all paper, we will probably go to an online based design. Thanks for the help. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 16:07:09-GMT,2413;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09805 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:07:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13211; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:58:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:54:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12833; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:54:54 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001befa13$aa36e700$3ded7ad1@f2gvt> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:54:34 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing Bookmark graphics and fonts AND time limitingaccess to pdf files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Diana (and the rest of the subscribers), I really wanted to mention FileOpen PDF. Somehow that other name slipped in. I apologize to Diana and FileOpen for that mistake. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >> You might look for products by Digital Applications >> (http://www.DigApp.com), or by PDFOpen (http://www.pdfopen.com). >> > >Max, did you mean to say FileOpen (www.fileopen.com) here? The product is >FileOpen PDF, and does have document expiration features. Thanks for the >mention if that was your intention. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 18:31:03-GMT,2298;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13942 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:30:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27689; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:23:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:19:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27214; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:19:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199909081819.NAA27209@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:23:32 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] QT4 and pdf's In-Reply-To: References: <000001befa13$aa36e700$3ded7ad1@f2gvt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi not sure if I brought this topic up here before. When I create mov files for use in pdf files they work perfectly when I have QT 3 installed. Once I install QT 4 and try to create mov files Acrobat no longer reconizes these mov files as valid file formats! Has anyone ran into this problem and can offer me a solution? Also does anyone know who I should try to contact to try and help me solve this problem? I am running on a Windows NT Platfrom and using Adobe Premiere 5.1 to create my final mov files. Thanks in advance for any help! Kevin Chu _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 19:15:49-GMT,2203;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15030 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:15:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31624; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:04:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:01:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31209; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:01:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199909081901.MAA04004@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:02:06 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Deinstalling Acrobat 4 on a Mac OS 8.6 From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Zone Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am trying to revert to Acrobat 3.01 for a specific project because of font issues. However, ever since I installed version 4, I am running into font issues that are vexing my 3.01 distiller - even after I deleted the version 4 programs and reinstalled 3.01. Is there some technique for de-installing the newer version cleanly before reinstalling 3.01? Fonts and preference files? -- Thanks, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 19:25:53-GMT,2167;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15315 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:25:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00448; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:21:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:18:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00146; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:18:40 -0500 Message-id: Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:25:55 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] Deinstalling Acrobat 4 on a Mac OS 8.6 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >I am trying to revert to Acrobat 3.01 for a specific project because of >font >issues. However, ever since I installed version 4, I am running into font >issues that are vexing my 3.01 distiller - even after I deleted the >version >4 programs and reinstalled 3.01. > >Is there some technique for de-installing the newer version cleanly before >reinstalling 3.01? Fonts and preference files? On the Macintosh, you should generally never have to do a deinstall of another version. Acrobat 3 and 4, Quark 3.3 and 4.04 live happily together on my hard drive. Specifically, what "font issues" are vexing your 3.01 Distiller? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 20:05:07-GMT,2186;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16387 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:05:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03262; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:51:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:48:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02946; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:48:10 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:47:43 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Deinstalling Acrobat 4 on a Mac OS 8.6 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <8CA56DD70F4AD311A99900A0C9960C10173E8E@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ First you should install 3.02 as if you recall 3.01 has some serious bugs...I don't remember what they were. Second, I had a similar problem and it was related to the version of ATM. You may need to zap the preference files for it as well. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: werner@rapidgraphics.com [SMTP:werner@rapidgraphics.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 7:26 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Deinstalling Acrobat 4 on a Mac OS 8.6 > > > > Specifically, what "font issues" are vexing your 3.01 Distiller? > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 20:44:00-GMT,2175;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17377 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06964; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:33:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:30:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06578; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:30:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Options - or other General Info update products Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:29:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Has any used the Merlin - Options product to automate the updating of info in the General Info part of a PDF? I've downloaded the product but it is an impaired demo version - so I can't tell if it will work or not. I've sent them an email but have not received an answer. Does anyone know of a product (Options or other) or procedure to automate the updating of the Title and/or Author info in the General Info area? ________________________________ Darin Brackett Network One mailto:darin@net1.com Portland 503-242-4210 http://www.net1.com ________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 21:38:40-GMT,2086;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19079 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12248; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:29:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:24:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11870; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:24:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Error searching from CD Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:23:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Has anyone experienced the following when searching from a CD?: "This document could not be found: it either has been moved, deleted or you don't have permission to view it." This doesn't occur when ran off of the server, once it is burned to CD... I encounter this error. How have you corrected this? ________________________________ Darin Brackett Network One / Scan One mailto:darin@net1.com Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) Portland 503-242-4210 http://www.net1.com ________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 23:16:25-GMT,3136;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21565 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:16:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14796; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:55:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:52:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14542; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:52:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 14:48:49 -0700 From: two turtles Subject: Re: [PDF] QT4 and pdf's To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <37D6D9C2.3FC523FA@pacbell.net> Organization: Two Turtles MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04C-PBI-NC404 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <000001befa13$aa36e700$3ded7ad1@f2gvt> <199909081819.NAA27209@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kevin, I'm glad to see your posting. I have been having the same problems with .mov, and .mpg files. The problem existed before installing QT4. The movie files will play on pdfs from a MAC, but not from a PC. Frustrating! Please let me know if you find out any information as I will do the same for you. Good luck Jay Pond twoturts@pacbell.net thanks Kevin Chu wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi not sure if I brought this topic up here before. When I create mov > files for use in pdf files they work perfectly when I have QT 3 installed. > Once I install QT 4 and try to create mov files Acrobat no longer reconizes > these mov files as valid file formats! Has anyone ran into this problem > and can offer me a solution? Also does anyone know who I should try to > contact to try and help me solve this problem? > > I am running on a Windows NT Platfrom and using Adobe Premiere 5.1 to > create my final mov files. > > Thanks in advance for any help! > > Kevin Chu > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 23:57:12-GMT,3011;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22520 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:57:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24695; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:48:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:45:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24439; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:45:26 -0500 From: "Bruce Rhodewalt" To: Subject: [PDF] file format Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:46:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm having trouble manipulating a PDF file from VBscript (ASP). I have been through the archives and search engines, and now I turn to you, O wise ones: I can open the file and read each line, but when I write the lines (adding the CRLF that VB strips out when in line mode) I find that some lines ending in LF have been replaced by CRLF. This may well be a problem with attempting to read a binary file in line mode, but before I assume this (and make the VB programming more complicated), I thought I would ask you all the following questions: o Is a PDF 1.3 file binary (or 8-bit ASCII) by definition? o Is there a way to use Acrobat to open and save a given PDF file as an ASCII file? (I seem to be able to do something like this by changing the Print Setup settings in PDFwriter, but I still see a lot of binary-appearing data in the file.) o Is there a way to limit line length or define line formats so they're friendlier to VB? In a text editor, I see the following first line in the file: %PDF-1.3 I'm on NT 4.0, and I'm using Acrobat Exchange 3.01. Thanks for any suggestions. Bruce Rhodewalt kahuna@tikipub.com Tiki Publishing Creative Internet Solutions since 1995 http://www.tikipub.com/ 760-773-3417 74-040 Highway 111, Suite JJ3 Palm Desert, CA 92260 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 0:37:08-GMT,2405;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23445 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:37:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28429; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:30:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:26:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28145; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:26:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Index Search Help Needed Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:25:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rick, I am experiencing the same problem. It doesn't appear to be linked to the length of the filename. All my filenames are in date format i.e. '1999_01_01.PDF'. The search has problems on only some of the files. I can open the file directly on the CD but not within the Search Results screen. I have noticed that the files that do not open have a unique filename displayed in the bottom of the search results (where the path is displayed) under the 'view' and info' buttons. 1992_06_06.pdf is displayed as 1947E5~1.pdf. This is the only association I have found. ANY HELP FROM THE GROUP WOULD BE APPRECIATED! ________________________________ Darin Brackett Network One / Scan One mailto:darin@net1.com Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) Portland 503-242-4210 http://www.net1.com ________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 0:54:33-GMT,3330;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23836 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:54:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA30203; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:48:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:45:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29920; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:45:46 -0500 Message-Id: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E3C4E29@torex169.tor.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] FW: Reader plug-in scrollbars behavior in Frames Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:45:30 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Callaway, Rebecca > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 11:01 AM > To: 'Post to PDF listserve' > Cc: 'Shlomo Perets' > Subject: Reader plug-in scrollbars behavior in Frames > > Hi PDF folks - > > I have an Document Management browser application that renders PDF on the > fly from what is "checked in". > > We are redesigning a front-end web page with pointers to other knowledge > management applications, including our PDF app. > > My question is: Can the PDF plugin work inside a Frameset AND have scroll > bars working? > > We have a Frameset with the list of pointers (links) in a frame on the > left, and the target display in a Frame on the right. Scroll bars are on > in the Frames, and the Frames can be sized. > > We notice an odd behavior in the reader plug-n (both 3 and 4) now that our > PDF's are opening in the target frame on the right. When the PDF is too > large for the Frame (and most of the time they will be on the average 17' > size monitors at our facility) the scroll bars in Acrobat no longer > function. Only the hand tool is available for seeing all parts of the > document. > > Scroll bars are there, but are non-interactive. > > I have a feeling that the Frameset scroll bars and the Plug-in scroll bars > are not getting along. > > Other usability issues: > >if the average user does not resize left frame to increase right frame > viewing area, PDF toolbar is cut off on the right. > >I have noticed on my workstation, where I have ACrobat 4, that smudges of > "dirt" appear on the PDF's at times. Moving the "dirt" area out of view > and bringing it back moves the "dirt" off and then back on the image ???? > > thanks for any help. > > Rebecca Callaway > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 1:11:35-GMT,3281;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24182 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:11:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32144; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:04:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:02:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA31790; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:02:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] file format Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 02:02:13 +0100 Message-ID: <007001befa5e$f4730100$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'm having trouble manipulating a PDF file from VBscript > (ASP). I have been through the archives and search engines, > and now I turn > to you, O wise ones: > > I can open the file and read each line, but when I write the > lines (adding the CRLF that VB strips out when in line mode) I find > that some lines ending in LF have been replaced by CRLF. > > This may well be a problem with attempting to read a binary > file in line mode, but before I assume this (and make the VB > programming > more complicated), I thought I would ask you all the > following questions: > > > o Is a PDF 1.3 file binary (or 8-bit ASCII) by definition? Not necessarily, but usually. > > o Is there a way to use Acrobat to open and save a given PDF > file as an ASCII file? (I seem to be able to do something > like this by > changing the Print Setup settings in PDFwriter, but I still > see a lot of binary-appearing data in the file.) No, there isn't. Acrobat doesn't offer the option. However, if PDFWriter chooses ASCII format there is no binary except for the binary characters on line 2 suggested in the format specification. > > o Is there a way to limit line length or define line formats > so they're friendlier to VB? Your question suggests you aren't familiar with the details of the PDF file format. You will need to learn these. In particular, PDF files are very unsuited to this sort of manipulation, because of the need to keep the cross reference table at the end updated. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 1:15:39-GMT,2762;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24284 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:15:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32099; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:04:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:01:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA31642; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:01:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199909090101.SAA23007@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 18:01:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Deinstalling Acrobat 4 on a Mac OS 8.6 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am trying to revert to Acrobat 3.01 for a specific project because of font > issues. However, ever since I installed version 4, I am running into font > issues that are vexing my 3.01 distiller - even after I deleted the version > 4 programs and reinstalled 3.01. > > Is there some technique for de-installing the newer version cleanly before > reinstalling 3.01? Fonts and preference files? > > C. Scott Miller Scott: I have a Mac G3 with O/S 8.6. I have both full versions of Acrobat 4 and Acrobat 3 (w/Distiller 3.02) running on the same machine. I experience no problems running both applications on the same machine, nor running them at the same time. I have Suitcase 8 and ATM Deluxe 4 running as well. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 1:20:30-GMT,4154;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24394 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:20:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00556; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:13:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:10:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00066; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:10:58 -0500 Message-ID: <37D70889.B05CAEDA@dconstructs.com> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:08:25 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] linking to Acrobat document's pages from HTML References: <005501bef91f$d556f1e0$7daa0d93@enator.se> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B04DF5E5BC622AAA5F92BCDF" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B04DF5E5BC622AAA5F92BCDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you using Go To View or Open File. Open Files creates problems with the net while Go To View does not. HTH R. Moran Ann Johansson wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi everybody! > I have a question concerning links from HTML to an Acrobat document. > I work with Acrobat 4.0. > I have two frames. One including a navigation bar, and one where different > Acrobat documents are shown. > In the navigation bar I have links to different Acrobat documents, but I > also have links to different pages in one and the same Acrobat document. > The HTML coding works the first time I klick on one of the links href="document.pdf#page=3">, but the next time, when I want to navigate to > another page in the same Acrobat document via my navigation bar href="document.pdf#page=4">, nothing happens and the same page (3) in > "document.pdf" is visible. > > Does anyone have a solution? > > Thankful for help, > Ann Johansson > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller --------------B04DF5E5BC622AAA5F92BCDF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="remoran.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Robert E. Moran Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="remoran.vcf" begin:vcard n:Moran;Robert tel;fax:203-452-0416 tel;home:203-452-1116 tel;work:203-452-1116 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.dconstructs.com org:Digital Constructs Inc. adr:;;759 North Park Avenue;Redding;CT;06896;USA version:2.1 email;internet:remoran@dconstructs.com title:President note:"Confusion is a misapprension of a higher order" - Henry Miller fn:Robert E. Moran end:vcard --------------B04DF5E5BC622AAA5F92BCDF-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 1:22:41-GMT,4295;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24437 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:22:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00824; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:16:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:13:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00534; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:13:21 -0500 From: "Bruce Rhodewalt" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] file format Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:14:35 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <007001befa5e$f4730100$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi, Thanks. I appreciate your comment at the end. This is why I am replacing only text, with text, and carefully retaining line lengths as I do it. Knowing this, do you think is a safe form of manipulation? Thank you very much for your help. Bruce > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Aandi Inston > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 6:02 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] file format > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I'm having trouble manipulating a PDF file from VBscript > > (ASP). I have been through the archives and search engines, > > and now I turn > > to you, O wise ones: > > > > I can open the file and read each line, but when I write the > > lines (adding the CRLF that VB strips out when in line mode) I find > > that some lines ending in LF have been replaced by CRLF. > > > > This may well be a problem with attempting to read a binary > > file in line mode, but before I assume this (and make the VB > > programming > > more complicated), I thought I would ask you all the > > following questions: > > > > > > o Is a PDF 1.3 file binary (or 8-bit ASCII) by definition? > > Not necessarily, but usually. > > > > o Is there a way to use Acrobat to open and save a given PDF > > file as an ASCII file? (I seem to be able to do something > > like this by > > changing the Print Setup settings in PDFwriter, but I still > > see a lot of binary-appearing data in the file.) > > No, there isn't. Acrobat doesn't offer the option. However, if > PDFWriter chooses ASCII format there is no binary except for > the binary characters on line 2 suggested in the format specification. > > > > o Is there a way to limit line length or define line formats > > so they're friendlier to VB? > > Your question suggests you aren't familiar with the details of > the PDF file format. You will need to learn these. In particular, > PDF files are very unsuited to this sort of manipulation, because > of the need to keep the cross reference table at the end updated. > > Aandi > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 1:56:41-GMT,2807;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25124 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:56:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04062; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:46:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:43:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03814; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:43:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:43:06 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] file format Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA03810 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 6:14 PM -0700 9/8/99, Bruce Rhodewalt wrote: >Thanks. I appreciate your comment at the end. This is why I am >replacing only text, with text, and carefully retaining line >lengths as I do it. Knowing this, do you think is a safe form of >manipulation? > If you read the file as BINARY, and you don't change the length of any piece of text that you are replacing, then yes, it should work just fine. Keep in mind, however, that text many not actually be stored in "plain text". It may be compressed, it may be encrypted. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 2:37:39-GMT,5949;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26049 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:37:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08390; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:29:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:26:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA08071; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:26:05 -0500 Message-ID: <37D71A23.D3E84613@dconstructs.com> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:23:32 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] General Info - Title References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------48A6D4DD95A882D8CDE1C2CF" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------48A6D4DD95A882D8CDE1C2CF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why would you want to do that. Titles are often long and include spaces a= nd or special characters that do not work well with file names. R. Moran Darin Brackett wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.= com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Is there an automated way to make the Filename of the document the Titl= e > (under General Info)? The Title seems to be a convoluted mismatch of > numbers and letters. When a search is done using the Catalog Index it > displays the convoluted temp file name. Is there any easier way than > manually changing each one? > thanks > > ________________________________ > > Darin Brackett > Network One > mailto:darin@net1.com > Portland 503-242-4210 > http://www.net1.com > ________________________________ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Leonard Rosenthol [SMTP:leonardr@lazerware.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:52 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Cc: Sean.Woodward@wdr.com; Lee.Garner@wdr.com; Janette.Stone@wdr.co= m > > Subject: Re: [PDF] Table of Contents, HTML to PDF and Watermarks= > > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > At 2:40 PM +0100 9/7/99, Sean.Woodward@wdr.com wrote: > > > 1. Convert HTML to PDF on an NT Server running Domino for the W= eb > > > Server. > > > > See HTMLDoc at . > > > > > > > 2. Automatically set up and display page numbering on the resul= ting > > > PDF on the server > > > > > > 3. Automatically set up a table of contents with accurate page > > > numbering > > > > See AppendPDF Pro at . > > > > > > > 4. Embed a background watermark on some of the PDF's > > > > See StampPDF Batch at . > > > > > > > > > > Leonard > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > > -- > > You've got a SmartFriend=81 in Pennsylvania > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > > -- > > Leonard Rosenthol Internet: > > leonardr@lazerware.com > > America Online: MACgician > > Web Site: > > FTP Site: > > PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 > > > > > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fra= n > > -> > > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.ht= ml -> > > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran = -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html= -> > ________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller --------------48A6D4DD95A882D8CDE1C2CF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="remoran.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Robert E. Moran Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="remoran.vcf" begin:vcard n:Moran;Robert tel;fax:203-452-0416 tel;home:203-452-1116 tel;work:203-452-1116 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.dconstructs.com org:Digital Constructs Inc. adr:;;759 North Park Avenue;Redding;CT;06896;USA version:2.1 email;internet:remoran@dconstructs.com title:President note:"Confusion is a misapprension of a higher order" - Henry Miller fn:Robert E. Moran end:vcard --------------48A6D4DD95A882D8CDE1C2CF-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 7:33:37-GMT,1861;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02739 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:33:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA02188; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 02:26:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 02:23:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA02000; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 02:23:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:23:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Vito Andolini To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] This page has graphis other than images or text on it? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If i try to capture the page it comes with this message: This page has graphis other than images or text on it. It cannot be capured. Skip page and continue? I tried to grayscale the document with a plugin, but nothing helps! Pleace help if you can! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 13:47:00-GMT,2023;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10135 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:46:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32516; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:40:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:34:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31864; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:34:21 -0500 From: "Michael McDonald" To: Subject: [PDF] Home Icon Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:32:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <007001befa5e$f4730100$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Group, Does anybody know of a plug-in that would place an icon on the toolbar that would allow me to define which PDF is opened when the user clicks on it? Thanks in advance. Michael McDonald Pinehurst Technologies, Inc. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 13:55:43-GMT,4362;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10395 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:55:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01149; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:51:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:50:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00908; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:50:24 -0500 Message-ID: <37D7BA77.D9BDC39D@dconstructs.com> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:47:36 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Index Search Help Needed References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4D2A3EF4D685932160C45135" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4D2A3EF4D685932160C45135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question, are you using Go to View or Open File to link Acrobat files. Open File can pose real problems because this is used primarily to open filer from other apps while Go to View is used to link one acro file to another. HTH R. Moran Darin Brackett wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Rick, > I am experiencing the same problem. It doesn't appear to be linked to the > length of the filename. All my filenames are in date format i.e. > '1999_01_01.PDF'. The search has problems on only some of the files. I can > open the file directly on the CD but not within the Search Results screen. > I have noticed that the files that do not open have a unique filename > displayed in the bottom of the search results (where the path is displayed) > under the 'view' and info' buttons. 1992_06_06.pdf is displayed as > 1947E5~1.pdf. This is the only association I have found. ANY HELP FROM THE > GROUP WOULD BE APPRECIATED! > > ________________________________ > > Darin Brackett > Network One / Scan One > mailto:darin@net1.com > Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) > Portland 503-242-4210 > http://www.net1.com > ________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller --------------4D2A3EF4D685932160C45135 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="remoran.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Robert E. Moran Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="remoran.vcf" begin:vcard n:Moran;Robert tel;fax:203-452-0416 tel;home:203-452-1116 tel;work:203-452-1116 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.dconstructs.com org:Digital Constructs Inc. adr:;;759 North Park Avenue;Redding;CT;06896;USA version:2.1 email;internet:remoran@dconstructs.com title:President note:"Confusion is a misapprension of a higher order" - Henry Miller fn:Robert E. Moran end:vcard --------------4D2A3EF4D685932160C45135-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 14:00:02-GMT,2485;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10494 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:00:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01906; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:57:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:55:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01724; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:55:51 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990909100056.00936c60@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:00:56 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] General Info - Title In-Reply-To: <37D71A23.D3E84613@dconstructs.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I think it's the other way around. The idea is to make the filename become the document title, no? At 10:23 PM 9/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >Why would you want to do that. Titles are often long and include spaces and or >special characters that do not work well with file names. > >R. Moran > >Darin Brackett wrote: > >> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> Is there an automated way to make the Filename of the document the Title >> (under General Info)? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 15:04:44-GMT,2224;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12379 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:04:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07118; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:36:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:35:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07002; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:35:32 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990909102853.00af3010@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:33:29 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Home Icon In-Reply-To: <199909091334.IAA31883@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you want a "home" button, the very-soon-to-be-released Ari's Form Tool will add a button to a document that takes you to a chosen document or web address. If you know how to work form fields and appearances, you can set up the same thing yourself. Set the MouseUp action to be an OpenFile action and import an icon of appropriate appearance. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis >Does anybody know of a plug-in that would place an icon on the toolbar that >would allow me to define which PDF is opened when the user clicks on it? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 15:04:52-GMT,2347;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12387 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:04:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08512; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:46:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:44:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08270; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:44:50 -0500 From: "Michael McDonald" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Home Icon Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:43:15 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990909102853.00af3010@dionis.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does the form tool allow for batch insertion? I have a product with about 800 PDFs and I would not want to do each PDF individually. __________________________________________________________________ If you want a "home" button, the very-soon-to-be-released Ari's Form Tool will add a button to a document that takes you to a chosen document or web address. If you know how to work form fields and appearances, you can set up the same thing yourself. Set the MouseUp action to be an OpenFile action and import an icon of appropriate appearance. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 15:07:02-GMT,2646;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12467 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:06:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05747; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:26:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:25:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05611; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:25:00 -0500 Message-ID: <37D7C318.779E43FB@monkscopyshop.com> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:24:50 -0400 From: larry kendall Organization: monkscopyshop.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] This page has graphis other than images or text on it? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The kast time I ran into this message I exported the file to postscript and re-distilled it. After that the capture went fine Vito Andolini wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > If i try to capture the page it comes with this message: > This page has graphis other than images or text on it. It cannot be > capured. Skip page and continue? > > I tried to grayscale the document with a plugin, but nothing helps! > > Pleace help if you can! > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 16:02:04-GMT,3620;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14068 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:02:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16498; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:53:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:51:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16063; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:51:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] General Info - Title Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:50:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ So that when you perform a search across PDF's the Filename shows up instead of some convoluted temp file name. Each file's index is typically the filename (at least in my case) and when you have several hundred or thousand documents it would be easier to set the title to the filename so that you have some clue what that document is in the search results screen. ________________________________ Darin Brackett Network One / Scan One mailto:darin@net1.com Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) Portland 503-242-4210 http://www.net1.com ________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Rindsberg [SMTP:steve@rdpslides.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 7:01 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] General Info - Title > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I think it's the other way around. The idea is to make the filename > become > the document title, no? > > At 10:23 PM 9/8/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Why would you want to do that. Titles are often long and include spaces > and or > >special characters that do not work well with file names. > > > >R. Moran > > > >Darin Brackett wrote: > > > >> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > >> __________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Is there an automated way to make the Filename of the document the > Title > >> (under General Info)? > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com > > Developers of ZAP! > Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus > http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran > -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 16:03:51-GMT,4107;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14116 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:03:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17231; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:00:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:59:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17028; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:59:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Index Search Help Needed Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:57:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This error occurs while trying to open / view the selected document within the Catalog Index search results screen (pie charts). ________________________________ Darin Brackett Network One / Scan One mailto:darin@net1.com Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) Portland 503-242-4210 http://www.net1.com ________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert E. Moran [SMTP:remoran@dconstructs.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:48 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Index Search Help Needed > > Question, are you using Go to View or Open File to link Acrobat files. > Open File > can pose real problems because this is used primarily to open filer from > other > apps while Go to View is used to link one acro file to another. HTH > > R. Moran > > Darin Brackett wrote: > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Rick, > > I am experiencing the same problem. It doesn't appear to be linked to > the > > length of the filename. All my filenames are in date format i.e. > > '1999_01_01.PDF'. The search has problems on only some of the files. I > can > > open the file directly on the CD but not within the Search Results > screen. > > I have noticed that the files that do not open have a unique filename > > displayed in the bottom of the search results (where the path is > displayed) > > under the 'view' and info' buttons. 1992_06_06.pdf is displayed as > > 1947E5~1.pdf. This is the only association I have found. ANY HELP FROM > THE > > GROUP WOULD BE APPRECIATED! > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Darin Brackett > > Network One / Scan One > > mailto:darin@net1.com > > Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) > > Portland 503-242-4210 > > http://www.net1.com > > ________________________________ > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran > -> > > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html > -> > > ________________________________________________________________ > > -- > Robert E. Moran > Digital Constructs Inc. > 759 North Park Avenue > Redding, CT 06896 > Tel 203-452-1116 > 203-452-8085 > Fax: 203-452-0416 > E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com > http://www.dconstructs.com > "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller > > << File: Card for Robert E. Moran >> _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 16:06:08-GMT,3621;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14197 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:06:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17739; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:03:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:02:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17466; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:02:04 -0500 From: "Bruce Rhodewalt" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] file format Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:03:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Right. We're using form-field text, and it's available uncompressed and unencrypted. Thanks. Bruce > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Leonard Rosenthol > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 6:43 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] file format > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > At 6:14 PM -0700 9/8/99, Bruce Rhodewalt wrote: > >Thanks. I appreciate your comment at the end. This is why I am > >replacing only text, with text, and carefully retaining line > >lengths as I do it. Knowing this, do you think is a safe form of > >manipulation? > > > If you read the file as BINARY, and you don't change the > length of any piece of text that you are replacing, then yes, it > should work just fine. > > Keep in mind, however, that text many not actually be stored > in "plain text". It may be compressed, it may be encrypted. > > > Leonard > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com > America Online: MACgician > Web Site: > FTP Site: > PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 16:16:10-GMT,3185;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14474 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:16:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19025; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:12:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:10:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18586; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:10:53 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:10:39 -0600 From: "Hagar, Laura M" Subject: RE: [PDF] Error searching from CD To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Darin, Did you create the collection from a root directory? If you created it from sub directories, this happens--well, it has happened to us. Knowing that, we start with our collections in 1 directory from Root, i.e., C:\New_Collection, and then create all links from that directory. Well, hope that helps. Laura Hagar Lockheed Martin > ---------- > From: Darin Brackett[SMTP:DARIN@Net1.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 3:23 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Error searching from CD > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Has anyone experienced the following when searching from a CD?: > "This document could not be found: it either has been moved, deleted or > you > don't have permission to view it." > This doesn't occur when ran off of the server, once it is burned to CD... > I > encounter this error. How have you corrected this? > > ________________________________ > > Darin Brackett > Network One / Scan One > mailto:darin@net1.com > Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) > Portland 503-242-4210 > http://www.net1.com > ________________________________ > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran > -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 16:16:14-GMT,2632;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14480 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:16:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19033; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:12:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:11:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18772; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:11:23 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 11:10:28 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Web link to a specific page in a PDF document From: "David Wolz" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1275229068-593560@postoffice.sells.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've been trying to find info on this for some time now, and I'm not having very much luck finding it. I need to find the mechanism to have e a URL link from a WWW page, (or even if using a web link in an existing PDF doc) go to a specific page in a PDF document. For example, reviewing a HTML document, there's a link to a PDF document, however, when selected, I want to go to page 12 of the PDF document, rather than just page 1. I may also have another link on that HTML document which could take the user to page 22 of the same PDF document. I know that there should be a mechanism to do it, I've seen it before, but I've been unable to find it again! Thanks! -Dave -- David Wolz Digital Products Manager Sells Printing Company, LLC E-mail: wolz@sells.com http://www.sells.com 16000 West Rogers Drive * New Berlin, WI 53151 Phone:(414)784-9500 / (800)728-9501 Fax: (414)784-8551 So many morons..... So few comets! ============================================== _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 16:30:07-GMT,2648;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14934 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:30:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20716; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:24:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:23:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20556; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:23:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1275229068-593560@postoffice.sells.com> References: <1275229068-593560@postoffice.sells.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:20:08 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] Web link to a specific page in a PDF document Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I've been trying to find info on this for some time now, and I'm not >having very much luck finding it. > >I need to find the mechanism to have e a URL link from a WWW page, (or >even if using a web link in an existing PDF doc) go to a specific page >in a PDF document. > >For example, reviewing a HTML document, there's a link to a PDF >document, however, when selected, I want to go to page 12 of the PDF >document, rather than just page 1. I may also have another link on >that HTML document which could take the user to page 22 of the same >PDF document. > >I know that there should be a mechanism to do it, I've seen it before, >but I've been unable to find it again! > >Thanks! Dave, There is a step-by-step procedure on the following page that will tell you how to do just that. ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 16:31:34-GMT,2248;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14967 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21204; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:28:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:26:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20902; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:26:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199909091626.JAA23871@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:27:37 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 Helvetica behavior on MAC vs. WIN From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Zone , "Acrobat/blueworld" Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Distilling PDFs from FrameMaker using Acrobat 4.0: On the WIN 98 side, all of my Helvetica fonts are converting to MSTT font variations which will not allow FINDs or SEARCHes. On the MAC 8.6 side, all of my Helvetica fonts are staying intact. Am I missing some setting in my WIN Distiller 4.0 that would account for this discrepancy or is something else going on. -- Thanks, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 16:36:39-GMT,4142;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15113 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:36:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21950; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:32:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:31:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21770; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:31:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Error searching from CD Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:30:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ yes they are all within the same root ________________________________ Darin Brackett Network One / Scan One mailto:darin@net1.com Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) Portland 503-242-4210 http://www.net1.com ________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Hagar, Laura M [SMTP:laura.m.hagar@lmco.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:11 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Error searching from CD > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Darin, > > Did you create the collection from a root directory? > If you created it from sub directories, this happens--well, it has > happened > to us. > Knowing that, we start with our collections in 1 directory from Root, > i.e., > C:\New_Collection, and then create all links from that directory. > Well, hope that helps. > Laura Hagar > Lockheed Martin > > > > ---------- > > From: Darin Brackett[SMTP:DARIN@Net1.com] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 3:23 PM > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > > Subject: [PDF] Error searching from CD > > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Has anyone experienced the following when searching from a CD?: > > "This document could not be found: it either has been moved, deleted or > > you > > don't have permission to view it." > > This doesn't occur when ran off of the server, once it is burned to > CD... > > I > > encounter this error. How have you corrected this? > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Darin Brackett > > Network One / Scan One > > mailto:darin@net1.com > > Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) > > Portland 503-242-4210 > > http://www.net1.com > > ________________________________ > > > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran > > -> > > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html > -> > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran > -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 16:43:46-GMT,2511;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15301 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:43:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22476; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:36:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:35:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22340; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:35:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199909091635.JAA29497@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:36:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Deinstalling Acrobat 4 on a Mac OS 8.6 From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a Mac G3 with O/S 8.6. I have both full versions of Acrobat 4 and > Acrobat 3 (w/Distiller 3.02) running on the same machine. > > I experience no problems running both applications on the same machine, nor > running them at the same time. I have Suitcase 8 and ATM Deluxe 4 running as > well. Thanks for responding. I can run the programs with a similar configuration except that I am using Font Reserve instead of Suitcase. I am getting two problems - If I try to distill using Distiller 3.02 I frequently get "invalid font" errors. If I open an "Acrobat 3 compatible" PDF 1.3 file I frequently get a "macintosh error -43". I am presuming that both problems are font related. -- Thanks again, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 17:18:12-GMT,2159;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16279 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:18:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26498; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:11:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:08:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26067; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:08:37 -0500 From: "Michael R. Nevarez" To: Subject: [PDF] Security Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:21:58 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm going to burn some CDs and put some TIFs and PDFs on them, but am concerned about the security aspects of the files. Does anyone know how I can ensure that no one can copy the TIFFs and the PDFs from the CDs? Does anyone know of a program that will timeout the TIFFs and the PDFs so that they can expire on a certain date? Your help is appreciated. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 17:21:45-GMT,3066;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16349 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:21:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27344; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:16:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:15:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27161; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:15:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199909091715.KAA09402@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:15:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Deinstalling Acrobat 4 on a Mac OS 8.6 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> I have a Mac G3 with O/S 8.6. I have both full versions of Acrobat 4 and >> Acrobat 3 (w/Distiller 3.02) running on the same machine. >> >> I experience no problems running both applications on the same machine, nor >> running them at the same time. I have Suitcase 8 and ATM Deluxe 4 running as >> well. > > Thanks for responding. > > I can run the programs with a similar configuration except that I am using > Font Reserve instead of Suitcase. > > I am getting two problems - > > If I try to distill using Distiller 3.02 I frequently get "invalid font" > errors. > > If I open an "Acrobat 3 compatible" PDF 1.3 file I frequently get a > "macintosh error -43". > > I am presuming that both problems are font related. > > -- > Thanks again, > C. Scott Miller Scott: Mac O/S 8.6 has a font bug. Have you downloaded the Font Manager update from http://www.apple.com? This will resolve numerous problems, especially issues related to Pagemaker. Also, Acrobat 3x-compatible docs will show PDF 1.2 in the info window. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 17:56:20-GMT,2994;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17263 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:56:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28518; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:26:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:24:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28302; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:24:51 -0500 Message-ID: <37D7EA9E.BC090D38@lauterkranz.com> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 19:13:03 +0200 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Save as EPS-BUG??? References: <37A4815B.FD7D167B@lauterkranz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Very strange but thats how i experienced it: Word created PS-File --> distilled with ACRO.4.x, opened in Exchange 4.x, saved as "EPS with PICT Preview", placed the resulting EPS in Quark 4.x (here it is visible), Printed this to PS (using LW 8.6, on G3, Composite, Agfa Apogee PPD and General Color PPD, the same thing tested with Separations on), distilled the result again in Distiller 4.x (and Agfa Normalizer) --- here's the problem: "Nothing to see"-- the pages are blank. (even with Pitstop in Wire-FrameMode: Nothing!!!) (A look into PS-File and PDF-File with MC SINK and Lasertalk shows all necessary PS and PDF ingredients, opening the files in onevision solvero: perfect, opening in illustrator 8.x: "Error opening this File", Printing all this out of Quark to any PS-Printer: "PERFECT") The same thing performed with Save as "EPS with Tiff Preview" out of Exchange 4.x: PERFECT!!! The Question is: W H Y ? ? Any Idea?? PS.: Why I did all this: People sending me PDF-Files (created anywhere, anyhow) need to be put into special Layouts (like: Registers on one side, adding Grafics, etc...), sending all this stuff through Agfa Apogee with Preps Imposition to a Platesetter, Print it and: earn MONEY!!!!! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 17:59:27-GMT,2641;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17374 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:59:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32157; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:55:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:52:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31822; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:52:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199909091752.MAA31812@everglades.binc.net> From: "Kitchen, James x1298" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Security Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:54:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We solved this problem by hiding the files and linking them through a VB ap piggy backed on an Access database. The VB ap expires and the CD becomes a nice piece of art. Hope this helps James ---------- From: Michael R. Nevarez To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Security Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 5:21AM The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm going to burn some CDs and put some TIFs and PDFs on them, but am concerned about the security aspects of the files. Does anyone know how I can ensure that no one can copy the TIFFs and the PDFs from the CDs? Does anyone know of a program that will timeout the TIFFs and the PDFs so that they can expire on a certain date? Your help is appreciated. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 18:08:47-GMT,1869;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17643 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:08:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00627; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:04:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:02:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00285; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:02:19 -0500 From: AEIgraphic@aol.com Message-ID: <3895806d.25095018@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:02:00 EDT Subject: [PDF] how do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf ... To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you want to have transitions in the file, you have to use pdfmarks. The Acrobat 3 Reader CD had a whole collection of EPS files that created transitions. If you use them, they will override the user's preference settings in Reader, and work on all systems in full screen mode. Kevin Landis _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 18:43:18-GMT,2953;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18818 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:43:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04892; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:35:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:32:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04579; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:32:46 -0500 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader plug-in scrollbars behavior in Frames Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:38:17 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E3C4E2C@torex169.tor.allied.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rebecca, > >I have noticed on my workstation, where I have ACrobat 4, that smudges of > "dirt" appear on the PDF's at times. Moving the "dirt" area out of view > and bringing it back moves the "dirt" off and then back on the image ???? I can't help you with the other issues, but maybe I can help with this one. Are you seeing this kind of behavior on all systems? We were recently notified by Adobe of a bug in Acrobat where random data appears on portions on the screen. This - according to Adobe - was caused by an ATI video driver problem. Sure enough, after downloading the latest video driver from the ATI web site, most of our problems went away (though we still see the problem at times, I must add). Just a guess of what could be happening, David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be) Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com) Software Development Manager L'important, c'est d'avoir envie ---------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 19:16:48-GMT,1516;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19741 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:16:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08921; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:06:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:03:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08583; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:03:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 17:51 -0500 From: "Randy Beegle" To: "Kurt Foss" Subject: [PDF] desubscribe Message-ID: <19990909150757186-4d0ee8e8@quebecorusa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 19:18:05-GMT,3146;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19785 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:17:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01237; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:09:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:06:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00863; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:06:41 -0500 Message-Id: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E3C4E2C@torex169.tor.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Reader plug-in scrollbars behavior in Frames Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:06:05 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ TRYING ONE MORE TIME... - - - - - > Hi PDF folks - > > I have an Document Management browser application that renders PDF on the > fly from what is "checked in". > > We are redesigning a front-end web page with pointers to other knowledge > management applications, including our PDF app. > > My question is: Can the PDF plugin work inside a Frameset AND have scroll > bars working? > > We have a Frameset with the list of pointers (links) in a frame on the > left, and the target display in a Frame on the right. Scroll bars are on > in the Frames, and the Frames can be sized. > > We notice an odd behavior in the reader plug-n (both 3 and 4) now that our > PDF's are opening in the target frame on the right. When the PDF is too > large for the Frame (and most of the time they will be on the average 17' > size monitors at our facility) the scroll bars in Acrobat no longer > function. Only the hand tool is available for seeing all parts of the > document. > > Scroll bars are there, but are non-interactive. > > I have a feeling that the Frameset scroll bars and the Plug-in scroll bars > are not getting along. > > Other usability issues: > >if the average user does not resize left frame to increase right frame > viewing area, PDF toolbar is cut off on the right. > >I have noticed on my workstation, where I have ACrobat 4, that smudges of > "dirt" appear on the PDF's at times. Moving the "dirt" area out of view > and bringing it back moves the "dirt" off and then back on the image ???? > > thanks for any help. > > Rebecca Callaway > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 19:18:15-GMT,2064;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19799 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:18:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01774; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:12:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:09:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01293; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:09:37 -0500 Message-ID: <003001befaee$72adb620$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Index Search Help Needed Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:09:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Here are some tips for putting indexes on Cd's for hybrid disks Make sure you check optimise for CD in the Catalog options, use the 8.3 file names and if possible convert all file names to caps if for win 3.11 users. Paul Dennis Complete Picture London Publishing Solutions For Industry _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 19:31:18-GMT,2177;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20104 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:31:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10796; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:23:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:19:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10283; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:19:37 -0500 Message-ID: <68710573652FD311970C00805FE606B260A8D6@lnxdayexch03.lexis-nexis.com> From: "Bernard, Robert K." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] desubscribe Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:19:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Beegle [SMTP:Randy.Beegle@quebecorusa.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:51 PM > To: Kurt Foss > Subject: [PDF] desubscribe > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran > -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 20:42:22-GMT,3583;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22067 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:41:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18380; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:34:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:27:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17617; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:27:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Barcode In PDF Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:35:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEFB02.D2DA66EC" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFB02.D2DA66EC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Okay, here's the problem. I need to dynamically edit a barcode within a PDF form that is being sent to a user through a web browser. I am currently populating this form with FDF data. However, I cannot use FDF to edit the barcode since it uses a special font. Does someone know of a way to either use a special font within a form text box, or dynamically edit a section of text within a PDF file? robert v porter iv senior applications developer renaissance interactive, inc. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFB02.D2DA66EC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barcode In PDF

Okay, here's the = problem.  I need to dynamically edit a barcode within a PDF form = that is being sent to a user through a web browser.  I am = currently populating this form with FDF data.  However, I cannot = use FDF to edit the barcode since it uses a special font.  Does = someone know of a way to either use a special font within a form text = box, or dynamically edit a section of text within a PDF = file?

robert v porter = iv
senior = applications developer
renaissance = interactive, inc.

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFB02.D2DA66EC-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 21:02:07-GMT,2271;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22674 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20891; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:56:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:52:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20353; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:51:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:51:43 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Barcode In PDF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Okay, here's the problem. I need to dynamically edit a barcode within a PDF > form that is being sent to a user through a web browser. I am currently > populating this form with FDF data. However, I cannot use FDF to edit the > barcode since it uses a special font. Does someone know of a way to either > use a special font within a form text box, or dynamically edit a section of > text within a PDF file? I have used PDFlib (http://www.pdflib.com) to generate a PDF containing a bar code (Code 39 and UPC-A) that is then used as a button icon with the FDFSetAP method. Let me know off-list if you would like more info. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 21:22:17-GMT,3625;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23331 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:22:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22920; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:12:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:08:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22273; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:08:00 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:07:26 +0200 From: Manfred Vogel To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF-import in FileMaker Database MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA22269 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am still looking for a possibility to load an pdf-file into a media-field in FileMaker. Is there any known plug-in or other solution for this problem? ================================== Manfred H. Vogel - Production - Michael Conrad & Leo Burnett GmbH Werbeagentur GWA Alexanderstraße 65 D-60489 Frankfurt am Main Germany Tel.: +49 (0) 69 / 7 80 77-162 Fax: +49 (0) 69 / 7 80 77-9162 ISDN: +49 (0) 69 / 97 84 33 03 ================================= ! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 21:29:09-GMT,1984;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23507 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:28:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24205; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:22:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:19:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23731; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:19:13 -0500 Message-ID: <37D82443.E352815@adobe.com> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 14:18:59 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Barcode In PDF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ George Johnson wrote: > I have used PDFlib (http://www.pdflib.com) to generate a PDF containing a > bar code (Code 39 and UPC-A) that is then used as a button icon with the > FDFSetAP method. Let me know off-list if you would like more info. That's a very ingenious solution, George! _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 22:04:52-GMT,2273;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24358 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:04:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28126; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:56:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:52:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27650; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:52:41 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 07:37:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] How do I make a powerpoint file converted to a pdf........ From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990909215234.VSCZ7242.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Many of my clients use Word or WordPerfect, they are a heck of a lot friendlier. Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF >> Yes, File>Preferences>Full Screen.... You can have automated, or >> interactive. You can also ustilize Javascript. Who needs Powerpoint? > > She probably does, if she wants to make the presentation in the first place. > To the best of my knowledge, one still needs a base application which to > design in, before one distills a PDF, and Powerpoint is a heckuva lot easier > than high-end design programs for this sort of task. > > Rich > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 23:29:18-GMT,2411;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26758 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:29:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04400; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:19:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:15:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03926; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:15:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:15:25 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: RE: [PDF] Security To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199909091915_MC2-8450-17AF@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA03922 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >We solved this problem by hiding the files and linking them through a VB ap piggy backed on an Access database. The VB ap expires and the CD becomes a nice piece of art. < If my memory is not too rusty, the simple XCOPY command will copy all files from source "A" to source "B". The main thing to consider is if someone looks at the CD and does not "see" any files, they probably will not try to copy to another medium. However, if written to gold/green CD's, you may notice the written area and pursue further. I hope this does not stir-up a fire on hidden files. Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown) mvorel@compuserve.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 23:29:19-GMT,2411;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26760 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:29:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04401; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:19:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:15:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03960; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:15:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:15:27 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: RE: [PDF] Security To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199909091915_MC2-8450-17B0@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA03952 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >We solved this problem by hiding the files and linking them through a VB ap piggy backed on an Access database. The VB ap expires and the CD becomes a nice piece of art. < If my memory is not too rusty, the simple XCOPY command will copy all files from source "A" to source "B". The main thing to consider is if someone looks at the CD and does not "see" any files, they probably will not try to copy to another medium. However, if written to gold/green CD's, you may notice the written area and pursue further. I hope this does not stir-up a fire on hidden files. Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown) mvorel@compuserve.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 23:32:05-GMT,3568;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26838 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:32:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04682; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:21:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:18:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04301; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:18:49 -0500 Message-Id: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E3C4E2F@torex169.tor.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader plug-in scrollbars behavior in Frames Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 16:18:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi - Very interesting!! Thanks for the HOT tip about ATI. My group is indeed running ATI. Most on the site run the video off the mother board, so it makes sense that the problem is isolated. I'll check my driver status. thanks again - Rebecca -----Original Message----- From: David van Driessche [mailto:van.driessche.david@pandora.be] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 11:38 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader plug-in scrollbars behavior in Frames The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rebecca, > >I have noticed on my workstation, where I have ACrobat 4, that smudges of > "dirt" appear on the PDF's at times. Moving the "dirt" area out of view > and bringing it back moves the "dirt" off and then back on the image ???? I can't help you with the other issues, but maybe I can help with this one. Are you seeing this kind of behavior on all systems? We were recently notified by Adobe of a bug in Acrobat where random data appears on portions on the screen. This - according to Adobe - was caused by an ATI video driver problem. Sure enough, after downloading the latest video driver from the ATI web site, most of our problems went away (though we still see the problem at times, I must add). Just a guess of what could be happening, David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be) Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com) Software Development Manager L'important, c'est d'avoir envie ---------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 4:14:13-GMT,2183;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03262 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:14:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00665; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:08:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:03:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00292; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:03:36 -0500 Message-ID: <37D881B0.44BB88DF@wt.net> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 22:57:36 -0500 From: Rick Bishop Organization: PRP_Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Index Search Help Needed References: <199909091334.IAA31883@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rick: Sorry, you'll have to go the DOS 8.3 route to make a cross-platform CD successfully. I add the title text (old file name) into the margin of each document in white text. It's still searchable, but won't print. If anyone has a way to make long filenames work cross-platform, I too would be interested in hearing about it. Rick Bishop Houston >I am creating an indexed searchable library of approximately >400 instructions and references in pdf format. I am using a >PC with Windows NT 4.0 and copying the CD with Easy CD _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 11:00:23-GMT,3014;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11553 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 05:00:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29494; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 05:54:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 05:51:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29253; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 05:51:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:51:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Vito Andolini To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] This page has graphis other than images or text on it? In-Reply-To: <37D7C318.779E43FB@monkscopyshop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ no, nothing works. On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, larry kendall wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > The kast time I ran into this message I exported the file to postscript and > re-distilled it. After that the capture went fine > > Vito Andolini wrote: > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > If i try to capture the page it comes with this message: > > This page has graphis other than images or text on it. It cannot be > > capured. Skip page and continue? > > > > I tried to grayscale the document with a plugin, but nothing helps! > > > > Pleace help if you can! > > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ > <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> > -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> > ________________________________________________________________ > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 11:48:09-GMT,2244;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12366 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 05:48:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA00567; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:41:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:40:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA00385; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:40:08 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] This page has graphis other than images or text on it? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:39:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000201befb81$36839aa0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > > If i try to capture the page it comes with this message: > > > This page has graphis other than images or text on it. It > cannot be > > > capured. Skip page and continue? Bear in mind the expected workflow: you use SCAN or IMPORT to get a PDF, then run Capture. I suspect you may be trying to Capture a PDF file made in a completely different way: this is not expected, but sometimes you are lucky. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1999 18:34:52-GMT,2081;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14024 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:34:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28116; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:29:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:26:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27903; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:26:46 -0500 From: teresa.fallis@tetrapak.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:19:27 +0200 To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for September-8-99 [V2 #612] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Secure Messaging /222000000/222021090/222003282/222200373/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA27898 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please take my name and address off of the list. Thank you, Teresa Fallis teresa.fallis@tetrapak.com -----Original Message----- From: PC:owner-pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com at SEINETTPAK Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 12:58 PM To: Fallis, Teresa; pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com at SEINETTPAK Subject: pdf-digest for September-8-99 [V2 #612] _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * _________________ <- Our Seybold SF '99 coverage is underway; live updates from San Fran -> -<- Check back early & often: http://www.pdfzone.com/seybold/index.html -> ________________________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1999 0:06:30-GMT,7088;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22705 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:06:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25795; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:00:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:58:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25602; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:58:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leton, Rick M Mr (CPF N4672)" To: "'PDF Digest'" Subject: [PDF] Index Search Help Needed Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:12:42 -1000 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BEFA4F.A73D63B2" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEFA4F.A73D63B2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am creating an indexed searchable library of approximately 400 instructions and references in pdf format. I am using a PC with Windows NT 4.0 and copying the CD with Easy CD Creator from Adaptec. Specifically, I am using the Joliet File Structure which is supposed to support filenames up to 64 characters. My index works fine when I test my search feature on the hard drive, but when I burn the CD and load the index from the CD, I get a number of "This document could not be found: it has either been moved, deleted, or you don't have permission to view it." errors. Ironically enough, when I insert the very same CD into a Macintosh, the search feature again works fine (even though the index was created on my PC) and I receive no errors. I have read that the 8.3 filename structure should be observed, but if so, why does it work fine on My Mac and my hard drive but not the CD? I want to explore any solution (for distribution on CD) short of renaming the files to the 8.3 filename structure since that would drastically reduce the effectiveness of the reference library (since users need to look up specific references). Can anyone please help me with this problem? 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MORE: EMAIL: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ___end___ ________________________________________________________ PDFzone.com - Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About PDF < http://www.pdfzone.com/index.html > 10-Sep-1999 15:52:58-GMT,3940;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18723 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24241; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:43:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:38:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23602; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:38:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Index Search Help Needed Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:37:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I did not have any problems with the long filenames as long as they are substantially unique. I ran into problems with files that have similar filenames within the same directory. For example all of the files where named in the format yyyy_mm_dd.pdf (in directories by year). There was only one file per month so all the filenames where unique except for the first 6 characters, but apparently the DOS filenames for some of these files where changed --- for example 1994_06_13.pdf was 1947E5~1.PDF in DOS. I noticed that only the files that would not run from the catalog search results screen all had their names changed dramatically (as the path and filename were displayed at the bottom of the results screen). This was confirmed when I looked at the original directory on the server in DOS. So to correct this I had to rename the files to yyyy_mm.pdf which corrected the problem. Any long filenames that where substantially unique - I had no problems with. ________________________________ Darin Brackett Network One / Scan One mailto:darin@net1.com Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) Portland 503-242-4210 http://www.net1.com ________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Bishop [SMTP:rbishop@wt.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 8:58 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Index Search Help Needed > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Rick: Sorry, you'll have to go the DOS 8.3 route to make a > cross-platform CD successfully. I add the title text (old > file name) into the margin of each document in white text. > It's still searchable, but won't print. If anyone has a way > to make long filenames work cross-platform, I too would be > interested in hearing about it. > Rick Bishop > Houston > > > >I am creating an indexed searchable library of approximately > >400 instructions and references in pdf format. I am using a > >PC with Windows NT 4.0 and copying the CD with Easy CD > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins > -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> > _________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 16:17:26-GMT,2268;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19506 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:17:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27862; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:13:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:10:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27390; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:10:31 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990910090841.00ae1850@mail-345> X-Sender: dsites@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:12:14 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dick Sites Subject: Re: [PDF] Security In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:21 AM 9/9/99 +0100, michaeln@denovolit.com wrote: "I'm going to burn some CDs and put some TIFs and PDFs on them, but am concerned about the security aspects of the files. Does anyone know how I can ensure that no one can copy the TIFFs and the PDFs from the CDs? Does anyone know of a program that will timeout the TIFFs and the PDFs so that they can expire on a certain date?" Acrobat Reader with Web Buy is designed to solve these problems. Check www.adobe.com, the Acrobat Reader with Web Buy article and free tryout. /dick sites _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 20:27:21-GMT,3093;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26509 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:27:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20775; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:13:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:06:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19847; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:06:46 -0500 From: "Michael R. Nevarez" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Security Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:19:57 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990910090841.00ae1850@mail-345> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ OK, but I need something for both PDFs and TIFFs. I didn't think Adobe Reader with Web Buy worked with TIFFs. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Dick Sites Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 5:12 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Security The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:21 AM 9/9/99 +0100, michaeln@denovolit.com wrote: "I'm going to burn some CDs and put some TIFs and PDFs on them, but am concerned about the security aspects of the files. Does anyone know how I can ensure that no one can copy the TIFFs and the PDFs from the CDs? Does anyone know of a program that will timeout the TIFFs and the PDFs so that they can expire on a certain date?" Acrobat Reader with Web Buy is designed to solve these problems. Check www.adobe.com, the Acrobat Reader with Web Buy article and free tryout. /dick sites _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 21:39:44-GMT,2072;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28578 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:39:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30291; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:32:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:26:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29555; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:26:51 -0500 From: "Thane Terrill" To: "Pdf@Lists. Pdfzone. Com" Subject: [PDF] Web Capture Limits? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:28:14 -0400 Message-ID: <000401befbd3$63a74390$3700a8c0@bic.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Acrobat 4.0 gives a warning when one starts a web capture operation. I assume this is primarily a warning so as not to choke one's hard drive. I would like to know if I can capture a 100 meg site for use on a CD-ROM resource disk I'm putting together. Can I capture something so large? Will users be able to open it? Thanks, ==Thane _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 21:55:00-GMT,2423;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28900 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:54:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32531; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:50:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:49:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA32405; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:49:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Web Capture Limits? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:53:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I would like to know if I can capture a 100 meg site for use > on a CD-ROM > resource disk I'm putting together. Can I capture something > so large? Will > users be able to open it? Theoretically, no problem. In reality, it won't fly. Web Capture will crash, vital links (including java-script driven fields) will be lost, page layouts will be unacceptable, rollovers and other animations will be lost, links to other sites will be missed and/or included unnecessarily, etc, etc. Web Capture is cute, but not ready for prime-time, at least not on sophisticated web sites. A few months ago, I ran Web Capture against Adobe's web site... it died after collecting about 10 pages. No problems with folks opening your 100 MB file, though! Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 23:13:10-GMT,3315;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01222 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:13:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08089; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:00:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:56:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07755; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:56:35 -0500 From: "Michael McDonald" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Web Capture Limits? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:58:18 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've actually had pretty good luck with web capture. I capture one aviation site that downloaded over 5K pages without a hitch. I've also captured a customers site containing three years worth of on-line medical articles with quite a few images. The only problem I ran into was that web capture did not recognize or download any of the quick-time movies. Michael McDonald Pinehurst Technologies, Inc. > I would like to know if I can capture a 100 meg site for use > on a CD-ROM > resource disk I'm putting together. Can I capture something > so large? Will > users be able to open it? Theoretically, no problem. In reality, it won't fly. Web Capture will crash, vital links (including java-script driven fields) will be lost, page layouts will be unacceptable, rollovers and other animations will be lost, links to other sites will be missed and/or included unnecessarily, etc, etc. Web Capture is cute, but not ready for prime-time, at least not on sophisticated web sites. A few months ago, I ran Web Capture against Adobe's web site... it died after collecting about 10 pages. No problems with folks opening your 100 MB file, though! Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 23:20:49-GMT,2788;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01422 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:20:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09433; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:13:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:11:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09129; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:11:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:12:52 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: RE: [PDF] Web Capture Limits? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> I would like to know if I can capture a 100 meg site for use >> on a CD-ROM >> resource disk I'm putting together. Can I capture something >> so large? Will >> users be able to open it? > >Theoretically, no problem. In reality, it won't fly. Web Capture will >crash, vital links (including java-script driven fields) will be lost, page >layouts will be unacceptable, rollovers and other animations will be lost, >links to other sites will be missed and/or included unnecessarily, etc, etc. >Web Capture is cute, but not ready for prime-time, at least not on >sophisticated web sites. > >A few months ago, I ran Web Capture against Adobe's web site... it died >after collecting about 10 pages. I just installed the new Mac version, System 8.6, aqnd grabbed the first few levels of www.adobe.com, about 250 html pages (618 PDF pages) adding up to 15 megabytes. No worries. I clicked stop after a half hour because it was getting boring. Large hard disk,G3, fast web connection, up-to-date system software, all make it a lot easier for Web capture to do its job. I would probably advise doing a 100 megabyte site in several batches rather than in one big gulp. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 23:20:50-GMT,2516;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01426 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:20:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09689; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:16:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:14:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09465; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:14:04 -0500 From: Cybergrphx@aol.com Message-ID: <77283c2.250aeaa9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:13:45 EDT Subject: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for Capture??? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I have a client who would like the "Hidden Text" option defined and differentiated from the "live" text, or OCR'ed option. I tried to explain it as OCR'd text "hidden" behind a bitmapped image versus a page that has text that you can copy and use in other applications, with the page somewhat "pieced" together from live text and bitmapped images, as complexity dictates. I couldn't find any good explanation of it at Adobe's site and thought that my explanation sounded like BS. The only odd thing that I see with the "hidden text" option, is that my searches always work, as if it had OCR'ed the text better than if I was trying to obtain live text. I never have a document that comes up virtually perfect when I try to get live text. It appeared that the search was operating on some sort of "fuzzy logic" that would approximate what I was looking for. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks Rob Robertson Cybergraphix, Inc. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 23:49:40-GMT,3300;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02087 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:49:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12284; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:42:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:39:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11884; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:39:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for Capture??? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:44:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a client who would like the "Hidden Text" option defined and > differentiated from the "live" text, or OCR'ed option. I > tried to explain it > as > OCR'd text "hidden" behind a bitmapped image versus a page > that has text that > you can copy and use in other applications, with the page > somewhat "pieced" > together from live text and bitmapped images, as complexity dictates. FYI.... this question is beast asked on the PDFZone's Capture List... > I couldn't find any good explanation of it at Adobe's site > and thought that my > explanation sounded like BS. Well, you did pretty well, considering the difficulty of the concept for the average client. From what you wrote above, what you got wrong (a relatively minor point) is that it IS possible to "copy and paste" text from a PDF/Image+Text file. I would also point out to your client the SUBSTANTIAL file-size difference... often crucial for web applications. At the risk of sounding overly self-promotional, I suggest you visit our site for a few additional words of explanation: http://www.document-solutions.com/definition.html > The only odd thing that I see with the "hidden text" option, > is that my > searches always work, as if it had OCR'ed the text better > than if I was trying > to obtain live text. I never have a document that comes up > virtually perfect > when I try to get live text. It appeared that the search was > operating on some > sort of "fuzzy logic" that would approximate what I was looking for. Ah, no. No fuzzy logic with Catalog -- and certainly not with Find. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1999 23:50:16-GMT,3300;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02092 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12592; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:46:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:44:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12422; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:44:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Web Capture Limits? Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:49:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Gary, et al: I just tried to Web Capture the Adobe site again... had better luck this time! I got 12 megs and then, like you, got bored with it. I'm not enthralled with Web Capture for other reasons, but I certainly was wrong about reliability (at least against the Adobe site!) <...heads off to Miller time with egg on face...> Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com > >> I would like to know if I can capture a 100 meg site for use > >> on a CD-ROM > >> resource disk I'm putting together. Can I capture something > >> so large? Will > >> users be able to open it? > > > >Theoretically, no problem. In reality, it won't fly. Web > Capture will > >crash, vital links (including java-script driven fields) > will be lost, page > >layouts will be unacceptable, rollovers and other animations > will be lost, > >links to other sites will be missed and/or included > unnecessarily, etc, etc. > >Web Capture is cute, but not ready for prime-time, at least not on > >sophisticated web sites. > > > >A few months ago, I ran Web Capture against Adobe's web > site... it died > >after collecting about 10 pages. > > > I just installed the new Mac version, System 8.6, aqnd > grabbed the first > few levels of www.adobe.com, about 250 html pages (618 PDF > pages) adding up > to 15 megabytes. No worries. I clicked stop after a half hour > because it > was getting boring. > > Large hard disk,G3, fast web connection, up-to-date system > software, all > make it a lot easier for Web capture to do its job. I would > probably advise > doing a 100 megabyte site in several batches rather than in > one big gulp. > > Gary Cosimini > Adobe Systems _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1999 0:57:37-GMT,2191;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03545 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17669; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:49:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:45:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17430; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:45:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: shell18.ba.best.com: fastio owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:45:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Ohzawa X-Sender: fastio@shell18.ba.best.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Barcode In PDF Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ George Johnson writes: >I have used PDFlib (http://www.pdflib.com) to generate a PDF >containing a bar code (Code 39 and UPC-A) that is then used as a >button icon with the FDFSetAP method. Let me know off-list if you >would like more info. ClibPDF also can generate PDFs with bar code with about 15 lines of C code. Windows version of PFM/PFB bar code fonts (e.g., Azalea Software, www.azalea.com) work as is. See the 3-rd example at http://www.fastio.com/examples.html Sam Ohzawa FastIO Systems - ClibPDF - www.fastio.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1999 15:58:57-GMT,2211;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19854 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:58:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16859; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:53:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:46:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16239; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:46:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990911115120.0093f390@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:51:20 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for Capture??? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Ah, no. No fuzzy logic with Catalog -- and certainly not with Find. > Oh, I dunno, Duff. When Catalog recently complained about not being able to write an ID to a ZIP file in with a bunch of PDFs, I thought that was pretty fuzzy of it, albeit not very logical. ;-) Any idea what it thinks it's up to? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1999 23:21:31-GMT,1967;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28023 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:21:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17789; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:17:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:12:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17428; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:12:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for Capture??? Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:17:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Oh, I dunno, Duff. When Catalog recently complained about not being >able >to write an ID to a ZIP file in with a bunch of PDFs, I thought that was >pretty fuzzy of it, albeit not very logical. ;-) > >Any idea what it thinks it's up to? Catalog is as Catalog does. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 12-Sep-1999 0:13:34-GMT,2139;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28965 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:13:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22248; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:10:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:07:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22126; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:07:17 -0500 Message-ID: <001001befcb3$5285d280$64035ed1@ferguson> From: "Jerry W. Ferguson" To: References: Subject: [PDF] Document titles Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:11:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ HELP! I have a need to catalog thousands of files created in our home office in Finland. These files were created through Worldview. ALL of the titles are "dokument:" This may have been covered recently, so forgive me, but I need to change ALL of the titles to the file name. Is there any way I can do this? I am NOT doing these by hand...:) Thanks for the help, Jerry Ferguson _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 12-Sep-1999 1:37:59-GMT,2923;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00499 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:37:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28999; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:34:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:31:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28619; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:31:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Document titles Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:29:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ you can write a VB app or VBA in Access to do it (assuming you're using a PC and know VB)... grab the filename and paths in a given directory then open up each PDF in a text editor or RTF window --- look for Title() at the end of the file... which would look something like... (Acrobat PDFWriter 2.01 for Windows) /Title (1995_07) /Author (Unknown) /Keywords () /Subject () /ModDate and change it to Title ('filename') then save as text (special thanks to Jason Belec for showing me this) the next choice would be to check into Options - a program from Merlin (over in the UK) it creates a CSV text file which is just a delimited text file with the Document Info and path / filename from everything within the selected directory at this point you can copy and paste (or find and replace) all of the 'Titles' with the filenames I looked into this and downloaded a crippled demo version of the program - which wouldn't allow me to do this... (I am assuming it will do this) I emailed Merlin but never heard back from them Good luck... watch out for the filename changes you'll experience if you ever burn this to disk! (I am still trying to figure that one out) Darin > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry W. Ferguson [SMTP:ferguson@inetnow.net] > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 5:11 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Document titles > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 12-Sep-1999 4:29:46-GMT,1809;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03493 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 22:29:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08882; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:23:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:19:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08505; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:19:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:19:32 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Document titles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > you can write a VB app or VBA in Access to do it (assuming you're using a PC > and know VB) There is an example using OLE automation in the IAC section at http:/www.codecuts.com. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1999 1:15:36-GMT,3901;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26886 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32448; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:08:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:03:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA31984; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:03:08 -0500 Message-ID: <37DC4CAD.A7383333@dconstructs.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:00:29 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Document titles References: <001001befcb3$5285d280$64035ed1@ferguson> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------94534618CBA179824F471264" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------94534618CBA179824F471264 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a very elegant way to do this using an acrobat plugin running with Excel. Check out PDF Workshop at www.planetpdf.com Tell them Bob Moran of Dconstructs sent you. It is a terrific application. R. Moran "Jerry W. Ferguson" wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > HELP! > > I have a need to catalog thousands of files created in our home office in > Finland. These files were created through Worldview. ALL of the titles are > "dokument:" This may have been covered recently, so forgive me, but I need > to change ALL of the titles to the file name. Is there any way I can do > this? I am NOT doing these by hand...:) > > Thanks for the help, > Jerry Ferguson > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> > _________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. 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MORE: EMAIL: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ___end___ ________________________________________________________ PDFzone.com - Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About PDF < http://www.pdfzone.com/index.html > 13-Sep-1999 15:31:34-GMT,1955;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15356 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31117; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:23:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:20:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30731; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:20:53 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990913112607.008e9760@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:26:07 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for Capture??? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Catalog is as Catalog does. > Ah. Well, then. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1999 17:04:11-GMT,4930;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18418 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:04:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08187; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:56:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:53:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07878; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:53:40 -0500 Message-ID: <37DD2B6C.BFDEC5B6@dconstructs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:50:53 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for Capture??? References: <77283c2.250aeaa9@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------ACA7ACBEC5CCAAB18A9015CF" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ACA7ACBEC5CCAAB18A9015CF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hidden text means that Acrobat attempts to OCR the image to convert it into searchable text. If there are any errors, they cannot be edited as it is hidden text and not "live" where the user can make changes to OCR errors. The advantage of Hidden Text is that the image remains untouched while the file becomes searchable. The downside is that the file will be about 1/3rd larger as the image remains part of the file and is not eliminated when the text is converted to live PDF editable text. The key in selecting one versus the other is quality of input. If scans are really good, go with live. If they are marginal, do the hidden because editing input is a real drag. HTH Bob Moran Cybergrphx@aol.com wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi, > > I have a client who would like the "Hidden Text" option defined and > differentiated from the "live" text, or OCR'ed option. I tried to explain it > as > OCR'd text "hidden" behind a bitmapped image versus a page that has text that > you can copy and use in other applications, with the page somewhat "pieced" > together from live text and bitmapped images, as complexity dictates. > > I couldn't find any good explanation of it at Adobe's site and thought that my > explanation sounded like BS. > > The only odd thing that I see with the "hidden text" option, is that my > searches always work, as if it had OCR'ed the text better than if I was trying > to obtain live text. I never have a document that comes up virtually perfect > when I try to get live text. It appeared that the search was operating on some > sort of "fuzzy logic" that would approximate what I was looking for. > > Any comments would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Rob Robertson > Cybergraphix, Inc. > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> > _________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller --------------ACA7ACBEC5CCAAB18A9015CF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="remoran.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Robert E. Moran Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="remoran.vcf" begin:vcard n:Moran;Robert tel;fax:203-452-0416 tel;home:203-452-1116 tel;work:203-452-1116 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.dconstructs.com org:Digital Constructs Inc. adr:;;759 North Park Avenue;Redding;CT;06896;USA version:2.1 email;internet:remoran@dconstructs.com title:President note:"Confusion is a misapprension of a higher order" - Henry Miller fn:Robert E. Moran end:vcard --------------ACA7ACBEC5CCAAB18A9015CF-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1999 17:24:32-GMT,2295;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19040 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:24:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10395; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:19:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:18:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10281; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:18:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Problem with Catalog index working on CD Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:17:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I burned the CD in Joliet format -- and get this error when doing searches using the index on the CD. "This document could not be found: it has either been moved, deleted, or you don't have permission to view it." So I then moved everything local -- then rebuilt the index. It didn't work. The windows filename is "1-TOC.pdf" (which is within the 8.3 format) when it is local and on the CD. The MS-DOS filename is "1-TOC~1.pdf" when it is local. Once I burn the CD the DOS filename changes to "1-TOC~6.pdf". If I take this file and move it locally the DOS filename changes back to "1-TOC~1.pdf"... so any ideas how to work around this? Is there some obvious error I am overlooking? All help is appreciated... _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1999 17:45:27-GMT,2308;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19663 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:45:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12292; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:38:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:37:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12164; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:37:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for Capture??? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:36:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We always say that it displays the tiff image and there are pointers from the OCR'ed text to the bitmapped word(s) on the page, so the original is unaltered and searchable. ________________________________ Darin Brackett Network One / Scan One mailto:darin@net1.com Toll Free 1-888-SCAN-ONE (722-6663) Portland 503-242-4210 http://www.net1.com ________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert E. Moran [SMTP:remoran@dconstructs.com] > Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 9:51 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for > Capture??? > > Hidden text means that Acrobat attempts to OCR the image to convert it > into > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1999 18:58:57-GMT,2093;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21787 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:58:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18700; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:53:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:50:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18316; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:50:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990913145536.0093d970@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:55:36 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem with Catalog index working on CD In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The windows filename is "1-TOC.pdf" (which is within the 8.3 format) Not precisely. 1-TOC.PDF (note uppercase PDF) is 8.3/DOS format. Try renaming your files to all uppercase and see if that helps. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1999 19:13:32-GMT,3490;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22147 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:13:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20269; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:08:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:07:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20123; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:07:14 -0500 From: chuck.davis@ihs.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IHS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <872567EB.0065FFA0.00@domino.ihs.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:01:57 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for Capture??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you use Acrobat Capture Reviewer you can edit the words to improve the searchability then save as PDF Image+Text. You don't have to be concered with the formatting and fonts which saves a significant amout of time, therefore reduces conversion costs. PDF Image+Text also provides some confidence to the reader that it is the original and they can depend on it. Obviously this depends on the input and the customer requirements. Also, the cost of converting hard copy to PDF Image+Text can be a tenth the cost of converting to PDF Normal, but you pay in viewable quality and download size. As a general rule of thumb creating PDF from hard copy to PDF Normal is a minimum of 5 times the cost of converting to PDF Image+Text and PDF Image+Text is 5 times the size of PDF Normal. In some custom conversion projects I have work in the past we have convert the current data, which was in MS Word to PDF Normal and the older data that was in hard copy to PDF Image+Text. These conversion are relatively the same cost and keep the delivery cycle short. This is one of the advantages of PDF to support text and raster formats in the same interface with full searching. Chuck Davis Information Handling Services www.ihs.com Hidden text means that Acrobat attempts to OCR the image to convert it into searchable text. If there are any errors, they cannot be edited as it is hidden text and not "live" where the user can make changes to OCR errors. The advantage of Hidden Text is that the image remains untouched while the file becomes searchable. The downside is that the file will be about 1/3rd larger as the image remains part of the file and is not eliminated when the text is converted to live PDF editable text. The key in selecting one versus the other is quality of input. If scans are really good, go with live. If they are marginal, do the hidden because editing input is a real drag. HTH Bob Moran _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1999 21:11:24-GMT,2117;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25996 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:11:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31088; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:03:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:00:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30729; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:00:25 -0500 Message-ID: <37DD65B5.CFA22B44@gocampus.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:59:33 -0700 From: Mike Looney Organization: GoCampus, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Higher Ed use for transcripts/grades Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Greetings, Our business is focused on providing added-value services to higher ed. institutions. I had heard that one or more campuses or high schools are using secure pdf to transfer grades and transcripts. Does anyone have any information on specific institutions doing this or any commercial services providing this functionality? Thanks, Mike Looney President -- Dr. Michael A. Looney Co-founder, GoCampus, Inc. 650 480 4044 415 519 4131 (cell) 650 949 0999 (home) _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 0:37:36-GMT,1745;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01578 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:37:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14027; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:18:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:16:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13839; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:16:19 -0500 Message-ID: <37DD947A.7C9FEDD9@showads.com.au> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:49:09 +0930 From: "Andrew Thomas" Organization: ScottDigital Adelaide X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Desubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please take my name off your lists. Cheers _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 2:51:29-GMT,2825;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04829 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25247; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:45:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:40:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24701; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:40:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for Capture??? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:57:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Also, the cost of converting hard copy to PDF Image+Text can > be a tenth the > cost of converting to PDF Normal, but you pay in viewable quality and > download size. > As a general rule of thumb creating PDF from hard copy to PDF > Normal is a > minimum of 5 times the cost of converting to PDF Image+Text and PDF > Image+Text is 5 times the size of PDF Normal. Indeed! However, we think it's more like 7-10 times the price. Our assessment of the industry indicates prices for PDF/Image+Text ranging from 45 cents / page to $3.00 or so (depending on complexity), and for PDF/Normal, $5 / page to $50 per page. PDF/Normal does cost a lot, but it's worth it for many applications. Web content, anything with color or half-tones, and longer files all benefit from PDF/Normal treatment in both obvious and subtle ways. Consider: 1 page doc ---------- PDF/I+T -- 90k PDF/Normal -- 10k No big deal, right? Either way is fine (well, acceptable). But... for a 100 page document... 100 page doc ------------ PDF/I+T -- 9 MB (!) PDF/Normal -- <1 MB Which would YOU rather have hogging your bandwidth? Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 2:51:32-GMT,2773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04835 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25248; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:45:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:40:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24722; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:40:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] DEFINITION of "Image+Hidden Text" option for Capture??? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:29:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I only have one quibble... >.... The advantage > of Hidden Text is that the image remains untouched while the > file becomes > searchable. The downside is that the file will be about 1/3rd > larger as the image > remains part of the file and is not eliminated when the text > is converted to live > PDF editable text. In our experience, page-images converted to PDF/Normal are 5-15kb pp., often under 5kb pp. if no bitmaps are to be left on the page. PDF/Image+Text (300 dpi, Capture 2.01 generated), on the other hand, is almost NEVER under 45kb / page, and usually runs 70-110kb / page. Thus, we say: "A key advantage of PDF/Normal files is the file-size difference -- PDF/Normal files generally require only 10-20% of the disc space needed for comparable PDF/Image+Text output." Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com > > > > I have a client who would like the "Hidden Text" option defined and > > differentiated from the "live" text, or OCR'ed option. > > I couldn't find any good explanation of it at Adobe's site > and thought that my > > explanation sounded like BS. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 3:36:06-GMT,3805;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05926 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:36:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28313; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:23:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:21:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28091; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:21:27 -0500 Message-ID: <002001befe60$2de5c120$d5890b3f@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] PDF and employment opportunities Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:21:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01BEFE25.8058C960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BEFE25.8058C960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kurt, give me hell if this is an inappropriate question for the list - = my apologies in advance! But, I couldn't think of anyone better than the people on this list = group, people who work in this field, to put this question to. =20 After a couple of years creating large PDF documents for distribution on = CDs (in the pharmaceutical industry), I find myself out of work (merger; = layoffs, etc.). I like working with PDF documents! Any suggestions for = the best way to find work in this field: on-site; off-site; employee; = independent contractor? =20 Your thoughts will be much appreciated! SueG ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BEFE25.8058C960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kurt, give me hell if this is an inappropriate = question for=20 the list - my apologies in advance!
But, I couldn't think of = anyone better=20 than the people on this list group, people who work in this field, to = put this=20 question to. 
 
After a couple of years creating large PDF documents = for=20 distribution on CDs (in the pharmaceutical industry), I find myself out = of work=20 (merger; layoffs, etc.).  I like working with PDF documents!  = Any=20 suggestions for the best way to find work in this field: on-site; = off-site;=20 employee; independent contractor? 
Your thoughts will be much appreciated!
SueG
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BEFE25.8058C960-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 12:05:27-GMT,2817;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA16720 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:05:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA30220; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:56:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:53:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA30073; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:53:56 -0500 Message-ID: <37DE44D9.1DE981A2@abk-stuttgart.de> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:51:43 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= John X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Javascript for interactive elements in Acrobat 4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I do not know which of the common Javascript function are available in Acrobat (of course I know the JS-PDF delivered with Acrobat 4, but this mostly covers the Field-Object. 1 How can I detect if QuickTime is properly installed on the machine Acrobat Reader is running on? Can I call the installation Program (and/or other applications) from within Acrobat? What special things are useful to know? 2 How can I set up the memory settings for a Reader running from CDROM on the Mac? 3 How can I make the Reader wait a certain time before continuing (Video has to loop in the meantime)? Wait() and sleep() do not work. 4 How can I show and hide a graphic image on a page using Javascript (not using a Field)? 5 How can I exchange a graphic image at a location on a page? 6 Can I create a link to an external plain-text file to be shown in a text field in an Acrobat document? 7 How can I start and stop a video clip using Javascript? 8 How can I change the current focus (dotted line around it) on fields using JS? 9 How can I detect the current position of the mouse pointer? Thank You very much for Your help. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 12:24:11-GMT,2439;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17113 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:24:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31947; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:18:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:16:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31835; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:16:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Javascript for interactive elements in Acrobat 4 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:16:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01befeaa$fead0580$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <37DE44D9.1DE981A2@abk-stuttgart.de> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > 1 How can I detect if QuickTime is properly installed on the machine > Acrobat Reader is running on? Can I call the installation Program > (and/or other applications) from within Acrobat? I don't believe you can check this with JavaScript; I don't think Acrobat itself would know until you tried to play a movie. JavaScript cannot access external files or programs in any way. This is important because it is designed to be "trusted" in all situations. > > 2 How can I set up the memory settings for a Reader running from CDROM > on the Mac? Set up the memory settings of the copy on your hard disk before cutting the CDROM. Aandi _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 13:37:33-GMT,4416;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18753 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:37:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04027; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:20:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:18:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03905; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:18:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199909141318.IAA03898@everglades.binc.net> Date: 14 Sep 99 09:19:31 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF and employment opportunities To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="====56534852575249525456===1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --====56534852575249525456===1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Reply to: RE: [PDF] PDF and employment opportunities Susan Gililland wrote: >But, I couldn't think of anyone better than the people on = >this list group, people who work in this field, to put this question to. = > Any suggestions for the best way to find work in this = >field: on-site; off-site; employee; independent contractor?=A0 Your = thoughts will = >be much appreciated! I too agree! What good is the future of PDF and encouraging it's use if talented PDF savvy people get stuck? Now of course I'm not proposing this become a "PDF hire forum" for every Tom, Dick, and Harry to = inquire, but a solution/avenue to remedy this is warrented, I believe. (IMHO of course) Perhaps there are some web sites that specialize in this, or a way (or better yet) an alternate list created just for this purpose! I too, love the streamlining of PDF and the solutions it creates and the = problems it leaves behind-that are soo typical of the pre-press/printing arena. I too don't ever want to be not in-touch with PDF! = Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com --====56534852575249525456===1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
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Susan Gililland wrote:
>But, = I couldn't think of anyone better than the = people on
>this list group, people = who work in this field, to put this question = to.
> Any suggestions for the best = way to find work in this
>field: on-site; = off-site; employee; independent contractor?  = Your thoughts will
>be much appreciated!

I = too agree! What good is the future of PDF = and encouraging it's use
if talented PDF = savvy people get stuck? Now of course I'm = not proposing
this become a "PDF = hire forum" for every Tom, Dick, and = Harry to
inquire, but a solution/avenue = to remedy this is warrented, I believe.
(IMHO = of course) Perhaps there are some web sites = that specialize in this,
or a way (or = better yet) an alternate list created just = for this purpose!
I too, love the streamlining = of PDF and the solutions it creates and = the problems
it leaves behind-that are = soo typical of the pre-press/printing arena.
I = too don't ever want to be not in-touch with = PDF!

Justin Blocksom
Digital Production = Group
Printing & Publications Corp.
jblocksom@printandpub.com --====56534852575249525456===1-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 14:14:49-GMT,2536;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19653 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:14:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08075; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:05:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:04:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07983; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:04:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:04:20 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Javascript for interactive elements in Acrobat 4 In-Reply-To: <37DE44D9.1DE981A2@abk-stuttgart.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > 4 How can I show and hide a graphic image on a page using Javascript > (not using a Field)? If you don't want to place the image in a button, then use a button on top of the image and programmatically show/hide the button to hide/show the image. > 5 How can I exchange a graphic image at a location on a page? Replace one with another? If using images in buttons, import the new image in an FDF file. > 6 Can I create a link to an external plain-text file to be shown in a > text field in an Acrobat document? You can place a string in the glob.js or some other plug-in level .js file to have access to a string that can be used in a text field. > 7 How can I start and stop a video clip using Javascript? I don't believe you can. > 8 How can I change the current focus (dotted line around it) on fields > using JS? You can't. > 9 How can I detect the current position of the mouse pointer? You can't. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 16:41:42-GMT,2352;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24306 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22401; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:30:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:28:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22217; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:28:09 -0500 Message-ID: <337AB4CBC637D3118ABB006008C5F7B604CCB2@pvexchange.petrovend.com> From: Tom Robinson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Shipping Acrobat Reader 4 with PDF Manuals Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:25:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, PDFZoners... We're planning to ship "PDF manuals-on-disk" soon. The manuals were created in-house with Acrobat 4.0, and we'd like to send along copies of the Acrobat Reader 4.0 as well. Manuals and (hopefully) reader will be on CD. I've searched PDFZone list archive for legal and tactical ramifications, but can find only "old" threads (circa 1996). Did I miss newer archived material on shipping reader version 4? If so, could someone point me in the right archive direction? And, if it's cool to ship the reader, how do I do it? Does it have to be self-extracting? Can it be zipped? Any info or roadmaps would be appreciated. BTW, I'm on this list's Digest version so direct replies w/b appreciated. Thanks much! Regards, Tom Robinson PetroVend Inc. Chicago, IL _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 16:45:04-GMT,2001;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24446 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:45:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23393; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:39:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:38:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23282; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:38:10 -0500 From: "Thane Terrill" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Web Capture Limits? Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:39:08 -0400 Message-ID: <001c01befecf$aab756e0$3700a8c0@bic.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199909112312.SAA17447@everglades.binc.net> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thank you for all your help. I did capture about 100 megs of a web site. I thought Acrobat had frozen up on me a few times during its fix links, but it came through just fine. Everything I've seen so far has looked good. ==Thane _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 16:47:37-GMT,8329;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24549 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:47:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23528; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:40:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:39:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23417; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:39:37 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A608047B@PARAV_SERVER> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF and employment opportunities Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:45:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEFED0.848943F0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. 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-----Original Message-----
 >But, I couldn't think of anyone better than the people on
>this list group, people who work in this field, to put this = question to.
> Any suggestions for the best way to find work in this
>field: on-site; off-site; employee; independent contractor?  = Your thoughts will
>be much appreciated!

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFED0.848943F0-- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 16:53:03-GMT,2889;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24700 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:53:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24399; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:47:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:46:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24242; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:46:30 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990914164620.00988370@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:46:20 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Tom Robinson From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Shipping Acrobat Reader 4 with PDF Manuals Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Complete information for how to distribute the Acrobat Reader is found at: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/distribute.html BTW, unless your CD absolutely requires Acrobat 4, I recommend that you ALSO include the distributable Acrobat Reader 3.01+ with Search (download from the Adobe FTP site); I suggest this because of the number of problems with fonts, etc. that have been reported against Acrobat 4.0 You can also set up your CD to run Acrobat Reader directly from the CD; I understand that instructions for doing this are found on the Acrobat Reader CD-ROM (order directly from Adobe for about $25). No matter what method you choose, you MUST use Adobe's installer program, not any ZIP or setup script of your own, to comply with all of Adobe's legal requirements. Tom Thiersch At 11:25 AM 9/14/99 -0500, Tom Robinson wrote: > >We're planning to ship "PDF manuals-on-disk" soon. The manuals were >created in-house with Acrobat 4.0, and we'd like to send along copies of >the Acrobat Reader 4.0 as well. Manuals and (hopefully) reader will be >on CD. > >And, if it's cool to ship the reader, how do I do it? Does it have to be >self-extracting? Can it be zipped? > >Regards, >Tom Robinson >PetroVend Inc. >Chicago, IL _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 21:07:14-GMT,2113;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02277 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:07:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23792; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:55:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:52:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23320; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:52:28 -0500 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567EC.0072BEAD.00@ojsmtpmta02.vapower.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:51:55 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Find vs. Search Discrepancy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Since Find operations are relatively slow, we create single-document indexes to expendite searches in large PDFs (400 to 1800 pages). Our problem is that index searches reveal all occurrences in a document, whereas Finds do reveal all occurrences. Search Options are all turned off. The index is defined without stopwords and without Sounds Like. Optimize for CD-ROM makes no difference in the outcome. We use Acrobat 4 on NT4, SP4. Can someone offer some insight why Catalog is failing to index content that Find can find? Thanks for your help. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 21:17:27-GMT,3511;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02540 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:17:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25692; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:10:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:08:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25507; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:08:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <005401befed9$8fb33f80$6019fed0@sue> References: <005401befed9$8fb33f80$6019fed0@sue> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:03:31 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF and employment opportunities Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It all started with ... > After a couple of years creating large PDF documents for distribution on > CDs (in the pharmaceutical industry), I find myself out of work (merger; > layoffs, etc.). I like working with PDF documents! Any suggestions for the > best way to find work in this field: on-site; off-site; employee; > independent contractor? then several more of you chimed in with similar thoughts and ideas; and we've had discussions with some other PDF-intensive companies about this same idea recently. *********************************************** So ... PDFzone.com will soon feature this service -- in one form or another. If you've got specific Acrobat/PDF skills to market, we'll provide a way to make that known to potential employers. And for potential employers looking for ways to find talented, PDF-aware employees, we'll make that possible, too. *********************************************** Details on the exact nature and format of this service will be announced here within a day or two. But it would be helpful to get some sense between now and then how many people and companies currently subscribed to the PDF list think they'd use this service. Feel free to let us know *OFF THE LIST* by sending a message to: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com If you happen to have a relevant Job Announcement that requires knowledge and experience with Acrobat/PDF, please feel free to email us a copy at the same ADDRESS ABOVE for helping to establish the submission process and format. Regards ~ Kurt __________ P D F z o n e . c o m | http://www.pdfzone.com/ _________ "Online Hub to All Things Acrobat & PDF Kurt Foss | Editor | mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 300+ PDF Tools: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/index.html _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1999 21:29:07-GMT,2200;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02881 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:29:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27244; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:22:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:20:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27016; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:20:47 -0500 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567EC.00755B91.00@ojsmtpmta02.vapower.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:20:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Find vs. Search Discrepancy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Well, yes, too many edits. Sorry. Index searches do NOT reveal all occurrences. Since Find operations are relatively slow, we create single-document indexes to expendite searches in large PDFs (400 to 1800 pages). Our problem is that index searches reveal all occurrences in a document, whereas Finds do reveal all occurrences. Search Options are all turned off. The index is defined without stopwords and without Sounds Like. Optimize for CD-ROM makes no difference in the outcome. We use Acrobat 4 on NT4, SP4. Can someone offer some insight why Catalog is failing to index content that Find can find? Thanks for your help. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 11:26:05-GMT,1782;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21744 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 05:25:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25096; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:18:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:11:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24386; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:11:01 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:08:22 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ron Subject: [PDF] Use of Forms MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am new to forms: We have a program that produces short codes and inserts them in an email message to clients I have produced a pdf document that describes to the recipient what to do with the codes when received How can I merge the data into the pdf document -- regards Ron _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 15:56:45-GMT,2003;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28023 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:56:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20018; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:46:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:44:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19801; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:44:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 drains memory? Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:37:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm not challenging what people are saying about Distiller's memory leaks - but for my own edification I, too, would like to know how people are measuring memory consumption. - Cynthia Leslie On Tuesday, September 07, 1999 6:48 AM Peter Reichel wrote >Well, I run distiller on NT4 and still I see a rising >memory consumption for AcroDist.exe in the TaskManager. >How did you measure? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 16:13:08-GMT,2224;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28454 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:13:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21502; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:58:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:57:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21324; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:57:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedded code in Acrobat .PDF? Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:56:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rob, if what you are trying to do is control the print job, perhaps you should research the idea of using Adobe's Portable Job Ticket Format (PJTF). Get info about it at www.adobe.com. - Cynthia Leslie On Monday, August 30, 1999 10:38 AM Rob Fenter wrote: >I was wondering if anybody has had any luck or experience with embedded code in >a .PDF file. I am exploring a possible implemetation plan that could utilize >this. Basically, I want a Unix originated PDF file to have embedded code >inserted, so when it is sent to a NT printer queue, the embedded code can be >read for further processing. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 16:23:48-GMT,1995;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28713 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:23:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23625; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:16:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:13:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23309; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:13:08 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SYBEX From: "Bill Gibson" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882567EC.0078427F.00@sybex.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:04:51 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Frame>>.ps>>.pdf: Mac vs. Windows Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Group, We publish straightforward, 1- and 2-color manuals with approximately one graphic per page (.eps and .tif) with Frame 5.5.6 on the Mac. Currently we send PDFs (Acrobat 3 and 4) to the printer, and things work out well (i.e., few calls from the printer). There is a chance that we will move to the Windows/PC platform: Will there be any appreciable difference or troubles with our generation and eventual ripping of PDFs if we were to cross the fence? Thanks _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 16:27:09-GMT,2027;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28781 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:26:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23896; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:18:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:16:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23605; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:16:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to PostScript conversion Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:15:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ RE: >> Does anyone know about a utility/library to convert PDF to PostScript for >> NT? > >Ghostscript can do it. > >Can it also do the inverse? Postscript to PDF? There is a Windows NT product called ImpozeIt that will do the conversion both ways. It is an imposition package, but you could also use it simply to convert from PDF->PS and vice versa. Go to www.iptech.com for details. - Cynthia Leslie _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 16:33:41-GMT,2764;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28992 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:33:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25108; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:28:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:25:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24819; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:25:37 -0500 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:25:37 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: Re: [PDF] Find vs. Search Discrepancy Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Richard I presume the task you want to accomplish is to find particular words and phrases in a document. I think the problem is that 'search' is ment to find documents with those search elements in them not to find the words inside a particular document. I found this to be a problem for me as I have been designing my atlas. Index seaches don't work over the Net and for the CD version were an index would work I found that if my pages were in on long document I would be no further ahead than if I randomly wooked for a street. The solution was to break my document into smaller parts, in my case individual map pages. Your solution might be to break up your file into chapters or sub-chapters. Its more work for you, but you have to do it, because we have to create documents that work for the lowest common denominator. ei. not everyone will have all the plugins that would add greater function to our work. Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 16:43:53-GMT,1939;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29332 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:43:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26632; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:40:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:37:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26327; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:37:50 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENATE From: "Timothy Madel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567ED.005AF9A0.00@sov.state.va.us> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:35:11 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Capture Optimization Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ How can I speed up the performace of Capture 2.0? More memory, better disk system? I saw a demo of a system called DocStar that OCR'ed a picture in about 10 seconds. Capture seems to take quiet a bit longer. Also is Verity's SearchPDF still available? Tim _________________ Timothy Madel Director, Information Systems Senate of Virginia Phone: (804)698-7471 Fax: (804)698-7651 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 17:16:49-GMT,2677;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00325 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:16:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30450; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:08:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:04:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29890; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:04:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture Optimization Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:09:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Tim: > How can I speed up the performace of Capture 2.0? More > memory, better disk > system? I saw a demo of a system called DocStar that OCR'ed > a picture in > about 10 seconds. Capture seems to take quiet a bit longer. FYI... the Capture list is the best place for this question: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists-capture.html However... to the answer. A beefy system with SCSI drives, lots of RAM, etc, etc will Capture about 4-5 pages / minute on average. Incremental improvements are possible with H/W tweaks, but page complexity has a _dramatic_ effect on throughput. Very simple text pages can go though in <5 secs / page. Note that, while Capture is NOT the fastest, it has numerous advantages, and is uniquely capable of select conversion tasks, especially PDF/Normal conversion. > Also is Verity's SearchPDF still available? Verity's whole product architecture keeps changing. Go here to see their current offerings. http://www.verity.com/products/index.html Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 17:17:30-GMT,5091;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00362 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:17:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30861; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:11:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:08:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30483; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:08:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199909151708.MAA30474@everglades.binc.net> From: "Weimer, Gary" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF in a mainframe environment Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:04:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BEFF9C.C5D8E340" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEFF9C.C5D8E340 Content-Type: text/plain We are looking at a process that would enable us to distribute documents across an IBM Mainframe architecture, and the topic of PDF compatibility has come up. Does anyone know if PDF files can be stored in MVS? If so, what formats are supported? Our process involves the creation of Word documents, converting to ???, then storing and distributing within a mainframe report management system. The variable is what to do out of Word. PDF seems to the best selection, but the question is what a mainframe does to the file. Does it maintain it as a binary file, as AFP data is, or other? Any light on this subject is appreciated. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm not sure if this is more of a PDF question or a web question. Is there a way to have my PDF format map print when the user clicks on the link? thanks, Christine ----------------- Christine Chin cmc39@cornell.edu Information Technology Area Supervisor Cornell Center for the Environment, 255-3972 Cornell Plantations, 255-2402 _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 18:10:34-GMT,2174;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02047 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:10:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03239; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:55:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:53:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03045; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:53:09 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENATE From: "Timothy Madel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567ED.0061B87A.00@sov.state.va.us> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:50:28 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture Optimization Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Duff, Thanks for the info. I have noticed that landscape pages tend to take longer than portrait pages. We're in the midst of a project to input and index newspaper articles and have them searchable via web browsers. Sorta like an automated morgue. I'm trying to convince the customers that Capture is the way to go. They have seen the system by Docstar and were impressed with te speed. I like PDF better because it retains the look of the original document and was searchable via the web. Or at least it was when Verity offered its Search PDF for free. Tim p.s. I have subscribed to the Capture list. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 18:36:04-GMT,3014;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02815 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:36:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07846; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:28:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:25:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07506; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:25:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture Optimization Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:29:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Tim: > Thanks for the info. I have noticed that landscape pages tend to take > longer than portrait pages. True... but usually because landscape are more complex, and/or have more copy than portrait pages. Landscape pages are no slower per se than portrait. Be sure that you turn OFF Capture's orientation detect (by selecting Portrait Only). This will speed processing a little as well. > We're in the midst of a project > to input and > index newspaper articles and have them searchable via web > browsers. Sorta > like an automated morgue. Never thought about it that way... but OK! > I'm trying to convince the customers that > Capture is the way to go. They have seen the system by > Docstar and were > impressed with te speed. Speed is only one issue, and it's often less important than others. Examine file size, on-screen and print performance between Docstar and Capture generated files... there are subtle differences that may or may not matter to you. Anyhow, the real question with speed is "what throughput can my workflow and overall resources handle? - NOT "how fast does this engine crunch?". Buying another box is a reasonably cheap and easy way to "speed" Capture processing, but solid workflows matter more. > p.s. I have subscribed to the Capture list. Excellent! The more the merrier. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 18:36:20-GMT,2327;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02832 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:36:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07895; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:28:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:27:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07674; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:26:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:26:52 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Use of Forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We have a program that produces short codes and inserts them in an email > message to clients > > I have produced a pdf document that describes to the recipient what to > do with the codes when received > > How can I merge the data into the pdf document So you want to programmatically place the codes in a PDF form and e-mail the PDF to your clients? You would first create the PDF and place form fields in the document using the form tool. To populate the form fields, you can use FDF or the new Forms API to programmatically fill-in the fields. The resulting filled-in PDF can be saved and e-mailed. More information on all of this can be found in the Acrobat SDK at http://partners.adobe.com. Post again of you have any specific questions. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 18:52:14-GMT,2242;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03283 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:52:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10582; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:43:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:42:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10374; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:42:37 -0500 Message-ID: <4BC88098C5DDCF11A5E40000F8014BA701F668ED@mshmshois1p.mss.tva.gov> From: "Norman, James Dan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Find Versus Search Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:42:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Search does in fact give you the ability to see each occurrence of the target text. Simply View the document on the Search Results document list and use the "hit" naviagtion icons (Next Highlight) to move backward or forward through the document from hit to hit. Very efficient indeed. The index is usable in this fashion on local drives or over a network, but not the Internet. To achieve similar functionality over the web see, for example, www.verity.com. To locate pages in searches that contain Boolean relationships may require breaking a document up into smaller documents-- but there is no need for that if you are comparing Find and Search. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 18:59:39-GMT,2894;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03545 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12113; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:53:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:51:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11780; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:51:52 -0500 From: "Peter M. Sih" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF in a mainframe environment Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:44:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <199909151708.MAA30474@everglades.binc.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFs can be stored in the Hierarchical File System (HFS) under MVS. Non-text HFS files are just like files under Unix and Windows. Peter Sih > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Weimer, Gary > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 10:04 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF in a mainframe environment > > > We are looking at a process that would enable us to distribute documents > across > an IBM Mainframe architecture, and the topic of PDF compatibility has come > up. > Does anyone know if PDF files can be stored in MVS? If so, what > formats are > supported? Our process involves the creation of Word documents, > converting > to > ???, then storing and distributing within a mainframe report management > system. > The variable is what to do out of Word. PDF seems to the best selection, > but > the question is what a mainframe does to the file. Does it > maintain it as a > binary file, as AFP data is, or other? Any light on this subject is > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Gary Weimer, CDIA > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 19:32:00-GMT,2204;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04515 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12994; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:00:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:59:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12848; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:59:10 -0500 Message-ID: <23EF0668B5D3D111A0CF00805F9FDC44019FCF46@SRV_EXCH1> From: "Lumsden, John (GSP)" To: PDFZone Subject: [PDF] Line art too light Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:58:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am creating a pdf of a technical manual for printing by a commercial printer. The original file is Word 8.0 and contains line art that was done in CorelDRAW. The line art prints fine on our HP LaserJet 5Si from Word. However, when printing a proof copy on the LaserJet from the pdf, the line art prints very light. It looks okay on the screen, but I'm concerned that it will produce unacceptable results at the printer. I used the "optimized for press" setting in Distiller when creating the pdf. Any suggestions for making the line art come out to look like it does when printing from Word? John Lumsden Supervisor of Technical Communications GSP _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 20:06:23-GMT,3562;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05601 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:06:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20124; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:54:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:52:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19801; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:52:05 -0500 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Find vs. Search Discrepancy Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:36:48 +0200 Message-ID: <01beffb1$a703f020$LocalHost@portos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Charles: Sometime ago we realized something about Find/Search that drove us crazy till we found the answer. The answer was found, as always, casually. When I want to 'Find' a word, I can type the whole word or part of it. This part will act as a root. In ex. to 'Find' "Computer" you can do it by typing "Comp", "Compu", etc.. But if you 'Search' for "Comp" you won't find "Computer". If you want to find this word through 'Search', you have to write "Comp*". On the other side, if you try to 'Find' "Comp*" , Acrobat will return nothing. Why are the "Find" and "Search" systems of Acrobat diferent? So Charles, when you speak of Ocurrences... are they whole words or not? Because what 'Find' will encounter with a word may be different than what 'Search' encountered. I don't know if this can be helpful to your problem. I hope so. Regards, Carlos Gonzalez ************************************************************** La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos Gonzalez Marti Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel: + 34 915 344 348 Fax: + 34 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************** >Well, yes, too many edits. Sorry. Index searches do NOT reveal all occurrences. > >Since Find operations are relatively slow, we create single-document indexes to >expendite searches in large PDFs (400 to 1800 pages). Our problem is that index >searches reveal all occurrences in a document, whereas Finds do reveal all >occurrences. Search Options are all turned off. The index is defined without >stopwords and without Sounds Like. Optimize for CD-ROM makes no difference in >the outcome. We use Acrobat 4 on NT4, SP4. Can someone offer some insight why >Catalog is failing to index content that Find can find? Thanks for your help. > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 20:35:30-GMT,2148;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06622 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:35:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25063; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:29:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:28:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24835; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:27:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199909152027.PAA24827@everglades.binc.net> From: "Kitchen, James x1298" To: PDFZone Subject: RE: [PDF] Line art too light Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:30:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Some thing to think about, is what DPI are you printing at. I have find that vector images tend to print much better at 300 DPI over say 1200 DPI. Hope this helps. James Kitchen GENICOM The Printer Solutions Company ---------- From: Lumsden, John (GSP) The original file is Word 8.0 and contains line art that was done in CorelDRAW. The line art prints fine on our HP LaserJet 5Si from Word. However, when printing a proof copy on the LaserJet from the pdf, the line art prints very light. It looks okay on the screen, but I'm concerned that it will produce unacceptable results at the printer. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 20:35:35-GMT,2980;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06623 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:35:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24181; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:23:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:21:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23819; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:21:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199909152021.NAA07300@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:21:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Line art too light From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: LumsdenJ@gspinc.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am creating a pdf of a technical manual for printing by a commercial > printer. The original file is Word 8.0 and contains line art that was > done in CorelDRAW. The line art prints fine on our HP LaserJet 5Si from > Word. However, when printing a proof copy on the LaserJet from the pdf, > the line art prints very light. It looks okay on the screen, but I'm > concerned that it will produce unacceptable results at the printer. I > used the "optimized for press" setting in Distiller when creating the > pdf. Any suggestions for making the line art come out to look like it > does when printing from Word? > > John Lumsden > Supervisor of Technical Communications > GSP There is only one sure-fire way to know what your final printed piece will look like...take a one-page sample doc and have your printer output a negative and make a proof. No desktop printer is ever going to match the resolution and output of a negative. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 21:11:04-GMT,2394;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07619 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:11:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28944; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:59:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:56:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28502; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:56:24 -0500 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:56:25 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: Re: [PDF] print from WWW with a click... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Christine, I think most of us wouldn't like a file to take over functions on our computers. I think it would be better if you allowed people to download your file. Do this as a Zip file for PC users and a Self Extracting Stuffit files for the MAC users. Then the user can decide to print the file if and when they want. If the file is on the screen inside the browser there are print buttons already there. Again many people might like to print files when they are off-line. I think it might also be wise to keep the map samller than US letter size so that it will print. Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 22:34:32-GMT,2260;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10030 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:34:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06123; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:24:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:21:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05729; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:21:22 -0500 Message-ID: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E5010F8859@MV_EXCHANGE_2> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Bad Graphics Display with 4.0 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:21:07 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have some black-and-white graphics that were Distilled into PDF files using Distiller 3.02. These black-and-white line drawings are showing up in bizarre colors on monitors that are configured to 256 or fewer colors. The problem is intermittent: a graphic will exhibit the problem one moment and then display just fine when you scroll around and return to it later. This is happening on every system we tried. It does not occur under any circumstances when we display the graphics using a 3.0 viewer, or if we change the number of colors to a value greater than 256 using Reader 4.0. Is this a known problem? Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 23:10:53-GMT,3260;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10854 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:10:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09950; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:03:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:00:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09547; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:00:44 -0500 Message-ID: <37E02478.F81CAD1E@dconstructs.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:58:00 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad Graphics Display with 4.0 References: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E5010F8859@MV_EXCHANGE_2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try saving the B&W files in 8 bit lzw tiffs in the original app. That should clear up the problem even though it sounds strange to do that. HTH R. Moran "Teague, Tommy K" wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > We have some black-and-white graphics that were Distilled into PDF files > using Distiller 3.02. > > These black-and-white line drawings are showing up in bizarre colors on > monitors that are configured to 256 or fewer colors. The problem is > intermittent: a graphic will exhibit the problem one moment and then display > just fine when you scroll around and return to it later. > > This is happening on every system we tried. It does not occur under any > circumstances when we display the graphics using a 3.0 viewer, or if we > change the number of colors to a value greater than 256 using Reader 4.0. > > Is this a known problem? > > Tommy Teague > Unisys Corporation > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> > _________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1999 23:25:05-GMT,3091;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11236 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:25:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11389; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:17:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:14:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11116; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:14:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:14:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Line art too light From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990915231429.UJMA6685.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.114.7.249]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ John, Depending on your setup, you are probably suffering from the same thing many people do. You system is not calibrated. Have the printing company you use, open the file on the Radius PressView they should have in house. If it looks good there, and / or it resembles the printed piece they are showing you, its your system. I can guarantee that you can have monitor colour, colour ouput colour, and printed output colour, within 5% variance. I have done thousands upon thousands of jobs over the years, and have the machine versions, colour comps, and printed materials to prove it. PDF has made this process very easy, however if the machine you are on, is not calibrated correctly, you will always get varying results. When my college students all start the year, I have them calibrate their systems, all in the same room. Then I have them look around the room, maybe 1 or 2 are the same, maybe 1 is close to the correct settings. Ask your printer(s) what their settings are, in order to establish a base, then you'll have to run some tests. Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF ---------- > the line art prints very light. It looks okay on the screen, but I'm > concerned that it will produce unacceptable results at the printer. I > used the "optimized for press" setting in Distiller when creating the > pdf. Any suggestions for making the line art come out to look like it > does when printing from Word? _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 0:24:36-GMT,2748;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12678 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:24:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17044; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:12:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:09:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16681; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:09:30 -0500 Message-ID: <19990916000917.47184.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.32.33.174] From: "SharonLouise Garcia" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Use of Forms Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:09:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ check out our web site. we may have what you need. the DMA product will both merge data into a PDF form and save data out of a PDF (or HTML) form into a database. SharonLouise Garcia X-Streem Software Solutions >From: ron >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Use of Forms >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:08:22 +0100 > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > > >I am new to forms: > >We have a program that produces short codes and inserts them in an email >message to clients > >I have produced a pdf document that describes to the recipient what to >do with the codes when received > >How can I merge the data into the pdf document > >-- > >regards >Ron > >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ ><- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> >_________________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 7:39:17-GMT,1950;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22536 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:39:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18766; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:26:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:21:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18439; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:21:11 -0500 Message-ID: <001101bf0014$b7641a40$214315a5@magix.com.sg> From: "Dr Cheng" To: "PDF Zone Online" Subject: [PDF] Automated Bookmarking Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:25:56 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi! Do you know of any software which can automate the process of bookmarking in Acrobat? I heard that these software will track for a specified font size text in the document and then bookmark them. SanDy. _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 7:44:27-GMT,2047;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22637 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:44:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19024; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:28:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:24:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18691; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:24:24 -0500 Message-ID: <001701bf0015$2b1e9140$214315a5@magix.com.sg> From: "Dr Cheng" To: "PDF Zone Online" Subject: [PDF] PDF Indexing Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:29:10 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi! In Acrobat Catalog, we only can exclude certain words that we do not want to index in a PDF file. We cannot include! If I only want 10 words out of the 100 to be index in a document, it is goin to be a terrible process if I have to define all the 90 words that I do not want to index. Can anybody help? SanD _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 13:45:09-GMT,1840;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29500 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 07:45:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13480; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:38:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:30:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12401; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:30:23 -0500 Message-ID: <37E0EE17.E366B332@lauterkranz.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:18:15 +0200 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Change Page-Size References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anybody know a trick to enlrge the pagesize of e given PDF-File. All the Tools I know are restricted to make pagesizes smaller Thanks Richard _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 14:11:26-GMT,2435;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00093 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:11:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17543; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:08:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:04:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16966; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:04:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Balaji, V." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Change Page-Size Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:03:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Could you tell me what those tools that you have seen are ? Thanks Balaji > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Lauterkranz [SMTP:lauterkranz@lauterkranz.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 8:18 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Change Page-Size > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Does anybody know a trick to enlrge the pagesize of e given PDF-File. > All the Tools I know are restricted to make pagesizes smaller > > Thanks Richard > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins > -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> > _________________________________________________________________ _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 14:54:50-GMT,2206;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01244 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:54:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22842; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:46:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:42:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22311; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:42:49 -0500 Message-ID: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7FA4@keg.aus.frco.com> From: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" Subject: [PDF] Concatenating PDF files Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:34:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm attempting to use pdcat from Glance (I found it on pdfzone) to concatenate pdf files created using PDFMaker into a single PDF file. It concatenates and preserves bookmarks, which is great, but there is a really nasty side effect--some of the text in the pdf files is compressed to the point that characters are on top of each other. The files look ok before being concatenated. Anyone got any ideas on how I might fix this? Or point me to another tool that can concatenate PDF files? Thanks, Ron Riley Ron.Riley@frco.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 15:14:06-GMT,2608;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01780 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:14:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25689; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:10:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:07:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25364; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:07:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:07:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Change Page-Size From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990916150743.ONML6685.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ http://www.dionis.com Dan, has many plugins, one has these features, as I have them all, I can't remember which comes with what.... ;)~ Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF ---------- >From: Richard Lauterkranz >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Change Page-Size >Date: Thu, Sep 16, 1999, 9:18 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Does anybody know a trick to enlrge the pagesize of e given PDF-File. > All the Tools I know are restricted to make pagesizes smaller > > Thanks Richard > > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> > _________________________________________________________________ > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 15:23:56-GMT,2059;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02088 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:23:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26646; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:20:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:18:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26427; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:18:06 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990916151749.009363c4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:17:49 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Change Page-Size Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Don't overlook the sponsor of this list -- PDFzone.com has listings of essentially all of the PDF tools available, and links to their origins. Tom >> >> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> Does anybody know a trick to enlrge the pagesize of e given PDF-File. >> All the Tools I know are restricted to make pagesizes smaller >> >> Thanks Richard >> ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 16:08:56-GMT,2237;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03373 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:08:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31491; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:04:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:59:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30753; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: <37E113CE.302FB7F5@monkscopyshop.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:59:26 -0400 From: larry kendall Organization: monkscopyshop.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Change Page-Size References: <2.2.32.19990916151749.009363c4@env-sol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try "Quite Imposing" > > >> Does anybody know a trick to enlrge the pagesize of e given PDF-File. > >> All the Tools I know are restricted to make pagesizes smaller > >> > >> Thanks Richard > >> > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> > <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> > __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 16:23:38-GMT,2564;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03930 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:23:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00412; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:20:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:18:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00230; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:18:31 -0500 Message-ID: <002c01bf005e$edfefc60$8a19fed0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Automated Bookmarking Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:17:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ "Compose" will do this. -----Original Message----- From: Dr Cheng To: PDF Zone Online Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 12:27 AM Subject: [PDF] Automated Bookmarking > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Hi! > >Do you know of any software which can automate the process of bookmarking in >Acrobat? >I heard that these software will track for a specified font size text in the >document and then bookmark them. > >SanDy. > > >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ ><- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> >_________________________________________________________________ > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 16:28:03-GMT,2266;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04147 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:28:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01131; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:25:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:24:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00989; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:24:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Indexing Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:29:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I suggest you use the "keywords" Document Information field to support the search-type you'd like. That way, full-text search is still available, and the keyword search functionality you want is available from the same engine. Not perfect, but it works! Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com > In Acrobat Catalog, we only can exclude certain words that we > do not want to > index in a PDF file. > We cannot include! If I only want 10 words out of the 100 to > be index in a > document, it is goin to be a terrible process if I have to > define all the 90 > words that I do not want to index. > > Can anybody help? ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 17:00:49-GMT,3427;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05241 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:00:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03753; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:52:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:50:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03406; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:50:35 -0500 Message-ID: <37E120A9.67E3CB8C@compLitpress.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:57:18 -0700 From: Arthur Luehrmann Organization: Computer Literacy Press X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame>>.ps>>.pdf: Mac vs. Windows References: <882567EC.0078427F.00@sybex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bill, I just picked up your message to the PDF list. We too use FrameMaker on Macs for our one- and two-color books targeted at the high-school market. If you will, I hope you'll share your experience in sending PDF files to your printer. We've had trouble with several printers (most of ours are in the Midwest). They tell us they have trouble imposing PDF, doing computer-to-plate from PDF, or separating colors in PDF. As a result, we've had to create PostScript files or (in one disastrous experience) send our FM source files, fonts, etc. Is there something simple that our printers can do to accommodate PDF files? Another question: When you send two-color PDF files, do you send them as composites? If you do the separation, do you use FM's separation facilities, or do you do one run with a black view selected and a separate run with a color view selected? Thanks in advance for any advice you can give. Arthur =================== Bill Gibson wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Group, > > We publish straightforward, 1- and 2-color manuals with approximately one > graphic per page (.eps and .tif) with Frame 5.5.6 on the Mac. Currently we > send PDFs (Acrobat 3 and 4) to the printer, and things work out well (i.e., > few calls from the printer). There is a chance that we will move to the > Windows/PC platform: Will there be any appreciable difference or troubles > with our generation and eventual ripping of PDFs if we were to cross the > fence? > > Thanks > -- Arthur Luehrmann, Publisher Computer Literacy Press (510) 644-2400 fax (510) 845-0322 E-mail: Luehrman@compLitPress.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 17:10:09-GMT,3802;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05564 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:10:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05149; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:06:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:04:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04949; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:04:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: cmc39@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:04:45 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christine Chin Subject: Re: [PDF] print from WWW with a click... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I think most of us wouldn't like a file to take over functions on >our computers. I think it would be better if you allowed people to download >your file. Do this as a Zip file for PC users and a Self Extracting Stuffit >files for the MAC users. Then the user can decide to print the file if and >when they want. If the file is on the screen inside the browser there are >print buttons already there. Again many people might like to print files >when they are off-line. > I think it might also be wise to keep the map samller than US >letter size so that it will print. Thank you for your response, Angus. I'm thinking more of a button that would say "print this map." Clicking on it would print a pre-formatted file (letter size, landscape). I realize that one solution would be to allow the user to download the file and use acrobat's "print" button to print the file. But the problem with this is that users need to be schooled in the fact that they need to use Acrobat's print button, not the browser print button. We have some kiosk users of our website who would be confused by this, and it seems to be an ungraceful solution to have a message telling them how to print. The kiosk browser also does not allow new browser windows to open, so forcing the pdf to open in a separate window (if this is possible) is not a solution. Once again, does anyone know of anything that might help in this situation? Thanks, Christine > >Angus > >************************************* > >Angus Weller >2960 Cosgrove Crescent, >Nanaimo, B.C., >Canada, V9S 3P8 > >Tel: (250) 729-7292 > >e-mail: weller@axion.net or >travel-media@bc1.com > >Internet store: www.travel-media.com > >************************************* > > > >_______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ ><- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> >_________________________________________________________________ ----------------- Christine Chin cmc39@cornell.edu Information Technology Area Supervisor Cornell Center for the Environment, 255-3972 Cornell Plantations, 255-2402 ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 18:02:59-GMT,2244;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07446 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:02:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10648; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:57:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:56:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10460; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:56:05 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990916140024.0094b3d0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:00:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] print from WWW with a click... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Once again, does anyone know of anything that might help in this situation? > A print button on the map page of the PDF? You can make a button perform pretty much any menu action you like. In the case of printing, it simply brings up the print dialog, and what the user does with it from there is their option. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 19:05:22-GMT,2634;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09253 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:05:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17754; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:01:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:00:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17574; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:00:29 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990916145250.025280b0@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:59:51 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] print from WWW with a click... In-Reply-To: <199909161756.MAA10490@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ With a single click, Ari's Form Tool will add a "Print Page" button to your document that will print the current page. Please email info@dionis.com for more info; it is not yet on the web site. (Disclaimer - I am the author.) Please be aware that whether you use Ari's Form Tool to create the button or take the long route and create the button and write the JavaScript yourself, there is a bug in Adobe Acrobat 4 that causes JavaScript printing in many situations to not work on PostScript printers. Other than insisting that your users not use Acrobat 4 (silly, I know) or waiting for Adobe to fix the bug, the best solution is to use Ari's Form Tool to create a Print button that will bring up the print dialog by executing the Print menu. You can also create this button by hand, but you will still be stuck with hoping the user does the right thing once the print dialog pops up. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 19:05:33-GMT,1916;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09267 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:05:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17755; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:01:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:00:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17528; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:00:18 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990916144920.02523860@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:52:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Change Page-Size In-Reply-To: <199909161756.MAA10490@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ As Jason kindly pointed out, Ari's Crop Helper will not only crop pages in batch, but it also make pages smaller and bigger. Disclaimer - as you probably can see from the name, I am the author. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1999 21:48:58-GMT,2532;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13812 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:48:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00563; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:41:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:39:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00347; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:39:37 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:35:04 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to PostScript conversion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In message , "Leslie, Cynthia" wrote: >>> Does anyone know about a utility/library to convert PDF to PostScript for >>> NT? >> >>Ghostscript can do it. >> >>Can it also do the inverse? Postscript to PDF? Yes, Ghostscript can take PostScript or PDF as input, and output to PostScript or PDF using the pswrite or pdfwrite drivers respectively. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 0:04:46-GMT,1827;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17623 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:04:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12021; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:00:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:58:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11813; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:58:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:58:00 +1200 X-Sender: graeme@mail.ak.iconz.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7FA4@keg.aus.frco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Graeme Dykes Subject: Re: [PDF] Concatenating PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > point me to another tool that can concatenate PDF files? Layout Changer will concatenate PDF files, without Acrobat Exchange. http://www.gdykes.com Graeme Dykes Prepress & PDF Software Developer ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 0:05:33-GMT,1785;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17655 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:05:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11870; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:58:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:55:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11517; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:55:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:55:08 +1200 X-Sender: graeme@mail.ak.iconz.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37E0EE17.E366B332@lauterkranz.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Graeme Dykes Subject: Re: [PDF] Change Page-Size Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Layout Changer is another application that will enlarge the page size. http://www.gdykes.com Graeme Dykes Prepress and PDF Software Developer ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 0:57:29-GMT,3278;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18930 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:57:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16233; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:47:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:46:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16092; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:46:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <852567ED.005AF9A0.00@sov.state.va.us> References: <852567ED.005AF9A0.00@sov.state.va.us> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:50:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Capture Optimization Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >"Timothy Madel" wrote: > > How can I speed up the performance of Capture 2.0? More memory, better disk > system? I saw a demo of a system called DocStar that OCR'ed a picture in > about 10 seconds. Capture seems to take quiet a bit longer. For Tim & others on this list who may not know, PDFzone hosts four different email discussion lists as a service to the PDF Community, each with a specific focus. The lists function optimally if people subscribe to, and post questions to, the most appropriate list. And unless it truly warrants it, we discourage cross-posting the same message to numerous lists. A question like the one above is best suited to the Capture list and its nearly 800 subscribers. The depth of expertise using Adobe Acrobat Capture is far greater on the Capture list than on the more general PDF list. You can subscribe via the Web form at: ° http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists-capture.html There's also a digest version, AND searchable & browseable archive, available for this list. The archive is located at: http://www.pdfzone.org/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/capture/ To find out about the other three discussion lists and their focus, see: ° http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Last but not least, as long as I'm making a 'list of lists,' some here may be interested in PDFzone's "What's-New" list, a brief 1-2 times per week broadcast message intended to notify people of updated news & resources at the PDFzone.com Web site. Whats-new's Web subscription page is at: ° http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists-whatsnew.html Regards ~ Kurt ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 1:12:45-GMT,2450;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19307 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:12:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17764; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:03:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:01:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17523; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:01:57 -0500 Message-ID: <37E19176.B287ABC6@wt.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:55:18 -0500 From: Rick Bishop Organization: PRP_Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Change Page-Size References: <199909161756.MAA10490@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Richard: Nothing difficult about this at all. Look for the following string, (or something similar) in your pdf file with a text editor. After making changes to a COPY of your file save with .pdf extension. ============== << /Kids [4 0 R 10 0 R 13 0 R ] /Count 3 /Type /Pages /MediaBox [ 0 0 612 792 ] >> endobj 1 0 obj << ============== The /MediaBox [ 0 0 612 792 ] -- refers to the page size of 612x792 points; or 8.5x11 inches. If you want the exact page sizes of tabloid, A4, Arch D, ANSI B, etc. in points, email me at the office tomorrow at: mailto:Srbishop@donohue.ca and I'll send you a list. Rick Bishop Houston >> Does anybody know a trick to enlrge the pagesize of e given >> PDF-File. All the Tools I know are restricted >> to make pagesizes smaller >> >> Thanks Richard ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 5:22:42-GMT,2546;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24990 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:22:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03246; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:16:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:13:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03005; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:12:59 -0500 Message-ID: <004e01bf00cb$4e31a260$c016fed0@r.-s.-davidson> From: "R. S. Davidson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Line art too light Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:12:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ One possible cause of "line art printing very light" would be if you are: 1 - Producing your line art in Corel Draw, and using the program's default setting for line width. This usually defaults to 0.2 points...or even 0.0 points; 2 - Moving this line art into Microsoft Word by either importing the Corel Draw "*.CDR" file or by means of an intermediary "*.EPS" file. If the line width in Corel Draw is 0.2 points, this will result in the programs trying to output a line that is approximately 0.002" wide...or one pixel on a 600 dpi laser printer. Corel Draw will sometimes default to a line width of 0.0 points, which would reproduce as a one-pixel line on any output device, and therefore be even narrower on an imagesetter...1270 dpi = 0.00078" wide, 2540 dpi = 0.00039". I would suggest checking your line widths on the source drawings. HTH ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 5:33:08-GMT,4661;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25222 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:33:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03603; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:21:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:19:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03418; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:19:17 -0500 From: "Ray Dembek" To: Cc: "'Robert E. Moran'" , "'Tommy Teague'" , "'Debi Lane'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad Graphics Display with 4.0 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 01:19:18 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bf00cc$3112b060$1e298318@ea.unisys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <37E02478.F81CAD1E@dconstructs.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There is a related problem that happens with 256 colors and the General Preference for Smooth Text and Images set ON. When the Acrobat Exchange window has focus all seems OK. When it loses focus, a palette shift sometimes occurs and information in the visible part of the Acrobat (reader or exchange) window changes from black with shades of gray for the smoothing to colored "confetti" colors. Check this out to see what I see: http://people.mw.mediaone.net/rfdembek/confetti.GIF Ray Dembek -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Robert E. Moran Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 6:58 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad Graphics Display with 4.0 The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try saving the B&W files in 8 bit lzw tiffs in the original app. That should clear up the problem even though it sounds strange to do that. HTH R. Moran "Teague, Tommy K" wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > We have some black-and-white graphics that were Distilled into PDF files > using Distiller 3.02. > > These black-and-white line drawings are showing up in bizarre colors on > monitors that are configured to 256 or fewer colors. The problem is > intermittent: a graphic will exhibit the problem one moment and then display > just fine when you scroll around and return to it later. > > This is happening on every system we tried. It does not occur under any > circumstances when we display the graphics using a 3.0 viewer, or if we > change the number of colors to a value greater than 256 using Reader 4.0. > > Is this a known problem? > > Tommy Teague > Unisys Corporation > > _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> > _________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller _______________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Warnock apologizes to Mac users at PDF Day; try beta 4.05 Mac plugins -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacAcroPlugins.html -> _________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 10:05:00-GMT,1585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01014 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:04:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA20798; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:56:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:52:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20589; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:52:20 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:49:30 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ron Subject: [PDF] Reverse image MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Picture received is reverse of that sent - any ideas why -- regards Ron ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 11:23:53-GMT,1931;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02505 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:23:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25876; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:16:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:13:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25647; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:13:13 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reverse image Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:13:04 +0100 Message-ID: <004901bf00fd$9dfb9620$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Picture received is reverse of that sent - any ideas why Received and sent how? Reverse in what way? Mirror image, colours inverted, something else? Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 11:39:41-GMT,2507;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02813 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:39:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27296; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:35:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:32:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27074; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:32:58 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:29:39 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ron Subject: Re: [PDF] Reverse image References: <004901bf00fd$9dfb9620$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> In-Reply-To: <004901bf00fd$9dfb9620$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Image received as an attachment in an email Opened OK in Acrobat 3 Is left to right reversed In message <004901bf00fd$9dfb9620$510b83c1@dan.quite.com>, mailto:Aandi Inston writes > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > > >> Picture received is reverse of that sent - any ideas why > >Received and sent how? >Reverse in what way? Mirror image, colours inverted, something else? > >Aandi > >________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ ><- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> ><- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> >__________________________________________________________________ > -- regards Ron Drinkwater ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 12:20:04-GMT,2131;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03880 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:20:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30175; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:13:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:10:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29809; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:10:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reverse image Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:10:40 +0100 Message-ID: <004b01bf0105$a8f424e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Image received as an attachment in an email > > Opened OK in Acrobat 3 > > Is left to right reversed One of two things: It was created that way by accident and the sender didn't notice. Or, there is a bug in your video driver, which makes it invert pictures from Acrobat. I can't think of any way that e-mailing would cause that specific damage. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 13:26:26-GMT,2419;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05272 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:26:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02495; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:15:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:11:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02126; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:11:49 -0500 Message-ID: <19990917131137.16150.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [198.153.135.50] From: "Meenachi Sundaran k" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Request for SolutionHi, Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:11:36 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, Presently we are using Acrobat Capture 3.01. PDF or TIF files to convert OCR. My Question: ------------ I am having a Bulk of PDF IMAGE FILES. please let me know if we have anyother option to convert pdf image files to TXT or RTF Format. Or Anyother Software using to Convert pdf image files to TXT or RTF Format. Please give me Solution or Suggestion. Yours, K. Meenachi Sundaran ---------------------------------------------------- "---Self Trust Is The First Secret To Success---kms" ---------------------------------------------------- K. Meenachi Sundaran (Nick Name: kms) Email Addresses: ---------------- 1. kms_65@hotmail.com 2. kms1kms@arbornet.org 3. kailee01@cyberspace.org ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 14:06:41-GMT,2091;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06258 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:06:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06440; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:00:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:50:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05448; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:50:53 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990916100714.025f17a0@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz> X-Sender: valter@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:07:14 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bohumir Valter Subject: Re: [PDF] Automated Bookmarking Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 15:25 16.9.1999 +0800, you wrote: >Do you know of any software which can automate the process of bookmarking in >Acrobat? >I heard that these software will track for a specified font size text in the >document and then bookmark them. > >SanDy. Hi SanDy, we are using plug-in Compose from Infodata which is very usefull for the process of bookmarking and many other things. More info on the web: www.infodata.com Regards, Bohumir Bohumir Valter Document Data Services ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 14:07:15-GMT,2230;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06264 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:07:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06916; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:03:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:56:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06079; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:56:36 -0500 From: chuck.davis@ihs.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IHS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <872567EF.004B99A8.00@domino.ihs.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:50:09 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] Request for SolutionHi, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am having a Bulk of PDF IMAGE FILES. please let me know if we have anyother option to convert pdf image files to TXT or RTF Format. Or Anyother Software using to Convert pdf image files to TXT or RTF Format. Please give me Solution or Suggestion. I would recommend that you use Caere's Omnipage or Xerox's Texbridge instead of Adobe Capture to convert from TIF to TXT or RTF. These OCR packages will provide you with a higher quality of OCR output than Capture. You would need to convert the PDF Image files to TIF prior to processing through the OCR package. The are other tools available to convert PDF to TIF. Chuck Davis ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 14:13:54-GMT,2895;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06403 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:13:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07600; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:10:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:03:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07030; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:03:57 -0500 From: "Pam Owen" To: "PDF" Subject: [PDF] Using odd-size paper Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:04:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000301bf0115$7f4c21a0$880c97ce@pentiumii> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, gang: I've been lurking on the list and quite frankly haven't had time to read all the posts. I did look through what I've received and don't see anything that addresses my current problem, which I hope someone can help me with. I'm editing a book in Microsoft Word 97 that has the following dimensions: 6" X 9". When I convert this document into PDF, using the PDF Maker plug-in, with the Use Distiller option chosen, the final PDF file seems to be in 8-1/2" X 11" format, with the document centered on the page. All links appear in a different position on the page than they should. For example, a bookmark link is in the margin. I'm sure this has something to do with the paper size. Can Distiller not handle customized paper sizes, or am I doing something in either Word or PDF Maker that is causing the problem? I have version 3.01 of Distiller. Please send your response to my e-mail address as well as to the list, as I'm on deadline and would like to make sure I get the response. Thanks. Pam Owen Nighthawk Communications P.O. Box 278 Washington, VA 22747-0278 E-mail: nighthwk@rma.edu ICQ: 23776024 "Life is like Sanskrit read to a pony" - Lou Reed ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 14:24:45-GMT,2733;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06717 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:24:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08686; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:21:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:13:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07998; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:13:43 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9BCF@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'nighthwk@rma.edu'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Using odd-size paper Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:13:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You have to change the paper size within Distiller, under Job Options. > ---------- > From: Pam Owen[SMTP:nighthwk@rma.edu] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 9:04 AM > Subject: [PDF] Using odd-size paper > > I've been lurking on the list and quite frankly haven't had time to > read all > the posts. I did look through what I've received and don't see > anything that > addresses my current problem, which I hope someone can help me with. > I'm > editing a book in Microsoft Word 97 that has the following dimensions: > 6" X > 9". When I convert this document into PDF, using the PDF Maker > plug-in, with > the Use Distiller option chosen, the final PDF file seems to be in > 8-1/2" X > 11" format, with the document centered on the page. All links appear > in a > different position on the page than they should. For example, a > bookmark > link is in the margin. I'm sure this has something to do with the > paper > size. Can Distiller not handle customized paper sizes, or am I doing > something in either Word or PDF Maker that is causing the problem? I > have > version 3.01 of Distiller. > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 23:49:01-GMT,3167;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22429 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:48:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25143; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:41:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:37:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24785; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:37:21 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990917163914.012aa520@216.216.8.132> X-Sender: sulojana@216.216.8.132 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:40:07 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sulojana R Blows Subject: Re: [PDF] Request for SolutionHi, In-Reply-To: <872567EF.004B99A8.00@domino.ihs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Check out www.bcl-computers.com for pdf to RTF conversion. Sulojana At 07:50 AM 9/17/99 -0600, you wrote: >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > > I am having a Bulk of PDF IMAGE FILES. > > please let me know if we have anyother option > to convert pdf image files to TXT or RTF Format. > > Or > > Anyother Software using to Convert pdf image > files to TXT or RTF Format. > > > Please give me Solution or Suggestion. > > >I would recommend that you use Caere's Omnipage or Xerox's Texbridge >instead of Adobe Capture to convert from TIF to TXT or RTF. These OCR >packages will provide you with a higher quality of OCR output than Capture. >You would need to convert the PDF Image files to TIF prior to processing >through the OCR package. 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Juniper Avenue Flagstaff, AZ 86001 fax: 408.249.4046 voice: 520.774.8059 www.bcl-computers.com mailto: sulojana@bcl-computers.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 18:20:16-GMT,2334;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13890 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:19:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29536; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:11:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:07:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28964; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:07:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:09:47 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com, PDF-Basics@lists.pdfzone.com, PDFdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] Download FREE BBEdit plug-in to create PDFs! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Apparently the announcement yesterday of a new, *free* plug-in for BBEdit (Mac-only Web authoring software) was met with great enthusiasm -- so much, in fact, that author Kas Thomas reports even *he* hasn't been able to access his Acroforms Web site today! So, PDFzone has agreed to host a copy of the PDF-Blit program as an alternative download. The file can be downloaded from this page: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_PDFBlit.html If you're both a BBEdit user and an PDF enthusiast, you'll love the ease with which PDF-Blit allows one to create a PDF file!. rgds ~ Kurt ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1999 19:00:17-GMT,3813;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15071 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:00:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00888; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:52:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:49:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00482; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:49:28 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9BD4@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: FW: [PDF] Using odd-size paper Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:49:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ After some dialogue between myself and Pam, and much struggling to get this to work, I found out that my answer, while correct by the book, didn't solve the problem. I did find much more info on this subject. There is a known problem with custom page sizes using Windows NT. In the Adobe CustomerFirst Support Database, I found document number 320349, "PDF Files Don't Retain Custom Page Sizes in Windows NT." (The URL is http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/113fa.htm.) The fix involves downloading and installing AdobePS (Adobe PostScript printer driver) 5.x for Windows NT. Also, I did get the custom page size to work, IF I used PDFWriter instead of Distiller (I know, I know...boo, hiss...). At any rate, I thought I would pass this along for the benefit of the list. Gary Decker "And if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surely means that I don't know." - Kerry Livgren, Kansas > ---------- > From: Decker Gary E[SMTP:gadecke@wcnoc.com] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 9:13 AM > Subject: RE: [PDF] Using odd-size paper > > You have to change the paper size within Distiller, under Job Options. > > > ---------- > > From: Pam Owen[SMTP:nighthwk@rma.edu] > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 9:04 AM > > Subject: [PDF] Using odd-size paper > > > > I've been lurking on the list and quite frankly haven't had time to > > read all > > the posts. I did look through what I've received and don't see > > anything that > > addresses my current problem, which I hope someone can help me with. > > I'm > > editing a book in Microsoft Word 97 that has the following > dimensions: > > 6" X > > 9". When I convert this document into PDF, using the PDF Maker > > plug-in, with > > the Use Distiller option chosen, the final PDF file seems to be in > > 8-1/2" X > > 11" format, with the document centered on the page. All links appear > > in a > > different position on the page than they should. For example, a > > bookmark > > link is in the margin. I'm sure this has something to do with the > > paper > > size. Can Distiller not handle customized paper sizes, or am I doing > > something in either Word or PDF Maker that is causing the problem? I > > have > > version 3.01 of Distiller. > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 19-Sep-1999 2:19:23-GMT,2394;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22887 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:19:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04145; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 21:14:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 18 Sep 1999 21:01:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03030; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 21:01:25 -0500 From: "Thane Terrill" To: Subject: [PDF] Large Web Captures Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 21:59:18 -0400 Message-ID: <001301bf0242$953c0920$b5e17ad1@thane> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <199909172337.SAA24804@everglades.binc.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Last week people gave me help on capturing large web sites. I found that downloading was not a problem at all on my 450 PIII. A few times I thought Acrobat had frozen, but it was just maxing-out my computer fixing links. The main issue I found is with load times. Even on my PIII, my 90 meg file took 30 - 45 seconds to load. This is bad enough on the initial load, but it happens each time I hit a link that takes me to an HTML page and then I return. The reload time on returning is just as bad as the initial load. Therefore, I will breakup the web site into 10 meg files and see how that works. ==Thane ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 7:36:39-GMT,2035;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA25932 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:03:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA24252; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:55:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:48:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23664; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:48:35 -0500 Message-ID: <37E5D8DB.2C0CE807@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:48:59 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] turning off message in Open File Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everyone, is there a way of turning off the message window that appears when a link's action is set to Open File ? It says Acrobat is trying to launch this application: ... Allow this action ... Yes or all actions to All applications. If I select All it won't appear again but, is it possible to stop the window from appearing at all and allow all linked applications to run without encountering the prompt ? Any help would be appreciated Jo Leong ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 7:56:10-GMT,2155;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26917 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:56:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28190; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:50:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:47:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28012; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 02:47:37 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] turning off message in Open File Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:47:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bf033c$65837ba0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37E5D8DB.2C0CE807@pacific.net.sg> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > is there a way of turning off the message window that appears when a > link's action is set to Open File ? It says Acrobat is trying > to launch > this application: ... Allow this action ... Yes or all actions to All > applications. No, absolutely not. Just think of the damage that a rogue PDF file could do if there was a way it could turn this off. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 10:15:31-GMT,2350;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29480 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 04:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04562; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:09:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:05:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04351; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:05:58 -0500 From: "Ken Silver" To: Subject: [PDF] Missing letters Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:10:26 +1200 Message-ID: <000f01bf0350$5bea1e00$579764d8@ksilver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001301bf0242$953c0920$b5e17ad1@thane> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Several clients have told me that when they download my PDF file, the front page is missing a letter in the headlines - there are two F's which do not appear... all other letters in the same font are OK. The document is produced on Pagemaker 6.5, with Distiller 4.0, and all the fonts are embedded. The offending font is Impact. Does anyone have an answer here? Ken Silver ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Digital Book Author: Visit: http://www.kensilver.com Member of the Self Publishing Association of New Zealand ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 11:04:29-GMT,2874;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00421 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:04:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07842; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:56:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:53:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07705; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:53:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:53:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing letters From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990920105336.CFYY14469.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This seems to happen a fair bit with Acrobat 4, I've had it happen with several fonts (postscript), and sometimes whole words, or sentences appear to disappear. However, the words, characters are not gone. With Pitstop I was able to locate them, they seem to step upwards, off the page, sometimes ending a page heigth above. Even if you replace them, the same thing will happen when you save. I've yet to work out a solution, but I will let everyone know... What I have been doing, is puting the ofending text into a seperate documnet, and copying everything from the messed up document to the new one. This seems to work.... sometimes. (Note: Doesn't seem to matter which software app you start with, or which platform, we seem to be able to reproduce it...) Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF > Several clients have told me that when they download my PDF file, the > front page is missing a letter in the headlines - there are two F's > which do not appear... all other letters in the same font are OK. > > The document is produced on Pagemaker 6.5, with Distiller 4.0, and all > the fonts are embedded. The offending font is Impact. > > Does anyone have an answer here? > > Ken Silver ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 11:28:10-GMT,3376;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00833 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:28:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09675; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:21:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:18:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09433; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:18:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:19:56 +0100 From: "Huw Johnson" To: Subject: [PDF] Distiller 4 and multiple joboptions files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA09423 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi folks, Can you help? Distiller allows us to choose joboptions and process centrally on a networked drive. This is fine if every job uses the same joboption. But my networked users might want to choose one joboption for one job and another for the next. I'm looking for a way for users to choose their joboptions for a given distill job without them fiddling with the shared network Distiller itself (say the default was Screen, someone changed the joboption to Press for their job and in the meantime someone else put a file into the In folder expecting a Screen job... then we'd have a problem). I'm wondering if there is a solution short of issuing every user with their own distiller? You can run Distiller 4 from the command line using the following kind of command (and forgetting all about In and Out folders): "d:\Apps\Adobe\Acrobat 4.0\Distillr\AcroDist.exe" g:\myfolder\myfile.ps If anyone knows how to put the joboptions file into this command line (doesn't say how in Distiller Help), then I might have a solution? Any ideas appreciated, Huw Johnson ---------------------- Huw Johnson Analyst/Product Developer Institute of Physics Publishing Dirac House, Temple Back Bristol BS1 6BE, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 929 7481 (Direct: +44 (0)117 930 1077) Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4318 E-mail: huw.johnson@ioppublishing.co.uk Web: www.iop.org ********************************************************************** IOP Publishing Ltd. Registered No 467514 England This e-mail message has been swept by MIMEsweeper using Sophos Sweep for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 11:49:18-GMT,2898;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01239 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 05:49:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11272; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:42:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:40:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10970; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:40:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 4 and multiple joboptions files Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:40:05 +0100 Message-ID: <001001bf035c$e26975a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Distiller allows us to choose joboptions and process > centrally on a networked drive. This is fine if every job > uses the same joboption. But my networked users might want to > choose one joboption for one job and another for the next. > I'm looking for a way for users to choose their joboptions > for a given distill job without them fiddling with the shared > network Distiller itself (say the default was Screen, someone > changed the joboption to Press for their job and in the > meantime someone else put a file into the In folder expecting > a Screen job... then we'd have a problem). I'm wondering if > there is a solution short of issuing every user with their > own distiller? This may be a silly question, but how have you overcome the prohibition on using Distiller's watched folders to provide services to others? The message you get in watched folder setup would seem to clearly forbid this... Just a thought...Adobe aren't necessarily going to put in features to make it easy to do something that is, elsewhere in the application, being forbidden... Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 12:03:57-GMT,2423;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01533 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:03:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12343; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:57:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:54:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12148; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:54:39 -0500 From: "Fredrik Sjogren" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 4 and multiple joboptions files Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:55:56 +0200 Message-Id: <000401bf035f$18d40db0$1901090a@graphics.intern.folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001001bf035c$e26975a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > This may be a silly question, but how have you overcome the > prohibition on using Distiller's watched folders to provide > services to others? The message you get in watched folder setup > would seem to clearly forbid this... > > Just a thought...Adobe aren't necessarily going to put in features > to make it easy to do something that is, elsewhere in the > application, being forbidden... > > Aandi > isn´t it possible as long as you have as many Acrobat licenses as users? you can set user restrictions on system level so only those with permisson is allowed to "distill". \\\fred ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 12:47:57-GMT,3669;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02381 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:47:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15774; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:42:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:39:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15438; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:39:19 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:40:33 +0100 From: "Huw Johnson" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: Distiller 4 and multiple joboptions files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA15433 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Apologies to all for wasting your time on this one, the answer staring me in the face on the Watched Folders dialog: For a given watched folder you can apply joboptions using the Load Options... button. Then just set up a watched folder for each job type. Apologies once again and thanks, Huw Johnson >>>>>>>>> Distiller allows us to choose joboptions and process centrally on a networked drive. This is fine if every job uses the same joboption. But my networked users might want to choose one joboption for one job and another for the next. I'm looking for a way for users to choose their joboptions for a given distill job without them fiddling with the shared network Distiller itself (say the default was Screen, someone changed the joboption to Press for their job and in the meantime someone else put a file into the In folder expecting a Screen job... then we'd have a problem). I'm wondering if there is a solution short of issuing every user with their own distiller? You can run Distiller 4 from the command line using the following kind of command (and forgetting all about In and Out folders): "d:\Apps\Adobe\Acrobat 4.0\Distillr\AcroDist.exe" g:\myfolder\myfile.ps If anyone knows how to put the joboptions file into this command line (doesn't say how in Distiller Help), then I might have a solution? Any ideas appreciated, Huw Johnson ---------------------- Huw Johnson Analyst/Product Developer Institute of Physics Publishing Dirac House, Temple Back Bristol BS1 6BE, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 929 7481 (Direct: +44 (0)117 930 1077) Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4318 E-mail: huw.johnson@ioppublishing.co.uk Web: www.iop.org ********************************************************************** IOP Publishing Ltd. Registered No 467514 England This e-mail message has been swept by MIMEsweeper using Sophos Sweep for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 12:59:35-GMT,1928;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02594 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:59:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16916; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:55:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:52:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16710; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:52:47 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990920084341.0148a950@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:51:55 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] turning off message in Open File In-Reply-To: <199909200648.BAA23683@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The warning you get clicking an "Open File" link cannot be turned off. It is for security purposes, and if the PDF file could turn it off, it would totally defeat the point of the warning. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 13:38:16-GMT,1939;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03336 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:38:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20431; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:31:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:28:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20039; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:28:37 -0500 Message-ID: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7FB4@keg.aus.frco.com> From: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" Subject: [PDF] compressed words Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:24:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Depending on the tool I'm using, in some pdf output some words are compressed. For example, the word "hardware" might have the h and a superimposed. Pages with compressed words look OK when printed. Any idea what's causing the compression and how to fix it? Thanks, Ron Riley Ron.Riley@frco.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 18:12:30-GMT,2751;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11462 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:12:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21723; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:00:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:56:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21356; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:56:38 -0500 Message-ID: <004f01bf0390$dbabb320$7318fed0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing letters Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:52:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> Several clients have told me that when they download my PDF file, the >> front page is missing a letter in the headlines -... >This seems to happen a fair bit with Acrobat 4, I've had it happen with >several fonts (postscript), and sometimes whole words, Does anyone have an answer here?... I experienced missing letters over a year ago with Acrobat 3.x, Times new roman and arial fonts. I'm not a print guru - don't know the first thing about printers and drivers and ppd's. I'd been reading about the new drivers on the list and thought I must be missing something. So, I updated my HP printer driver with the "most current" acrobat driver. The missing letter was "Y" - wasn't missing in all cases, just sometimes. When I updated the driver on Distiller 3.0 the "Y" reappeared, but then "x" was missing. I finally went back to the "old" drivers for all printers. And everything worked fine. I'm still not sure what was wrong - drivers, HP printer compatibility problems, fonts! But, I'm still using the old drivers 'cause they work! SueG ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 22:01:22-GMT,2966;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17660 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:01:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14581; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:53:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:46:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13759; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:46:21 -0500 Message-ID: <61065D0B238AD211A2E700805F0D3EA311502C@TORREYPINES> From: Gregg Erbaugh To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Dumb Printing Question Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:44:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BF03B1.44A554A6" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF03B1.44A554A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Maybe this is a Windows thing or something else, but when I right-click on a PDF file in 95/98 from explorer and choose PRINT, the Acrobat Reader comes up and prints my document. What must I do to make sure the print action gets performed for the right size of paper? When I have a PDF document that is made for an 8.5x14 inch paper, it prints on 8.5x11 instead of asking me to load 14" paper or pick from the second tray (which has 14" paper). The opposite happens when I have 14" paper as the default and I try to print an 11" document. Thanks in advance. Gregg Erbaugh IT Manager Southwest Financial Services gregg.erbaugh@sfsltd.com <> ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF03B1.44A554A6 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Gregg Erbaugh.vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Gregg Erbaugh.vcf" Content-Location: ATT-0-440E859B656FD311A30500805F0D3EA3-G REGGE%7E1.VCF BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Erbaugh;Gregg FN:Gregg Erbaugh NOTE:IT Manager EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:Gregg.Erbaugh@sfsltd.com REV:19990720T215756Z END:VCARD ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF03B1.44A554A6-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 22:24:25-GMT,2246;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18300 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:24:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16806; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:20:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:16:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16467; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:15:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Dumb Printing Question Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:15:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bf03b5$b24cba40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <61065D0B238AD211A2E700805F0D3EA311502C@TORREYPINES> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Maybe this is a Windows thing or something else, but when I > right-click on a > PDF file in 95/98 from explorer and choose PRINT, the Acrobat > Reader comes > up and prints my document. What must I do to make sure the > print action > gets performed for the right size of paper? Pre-select the correct size. Acrobat prints to the current default page size, and the page size of the document does not influence printing in any way. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1999 22:36:51-GMT,3047;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18600 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:36:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17700; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:30:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:26:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17431; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:26:32 -0500 Message-ID: <61065D0B238AD211A2E700805F0D3EA311502D@TORREYPINES> From: Gregg Erbaugh To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Dumb Printing Question Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:24:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If I select it manually that certainly works, now imagine the situation where I want to automatically print whatever is dropped in a mailbox. Normally with Word for example, the print driver will handle sending the appropriate codes to the printer or what have you so that the proper paper is used. Nothing like that in Acrobat? No special Postscript codes I can use/embed? -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [mailto:listreader2@quite.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 6:16 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Dumb Printing Question The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Maybe this is a Windows thing or something else, but when I > right-click on a > PDF file in 95/98 from explorer and choose PRINT, the Acrobat > Reader comes > up and prints my document. What must I do to make sure the > print action > gets performed for the right size of paper? Pre-select the correct size. Acrobat prints to the current default page size, and the page size of the document does not influence printing in any way. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 8:21:13-GMT,2281;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02796 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:21:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA27641; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 03:08:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:59:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26876; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:59:31 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Dumb Printing Question Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:59:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bf0407$36045900$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <61065D0B238AD211A2E700805F0D3EA311502D@TORREYPINES> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > If I select it manually that certainly works, now imagine the > situation > where I want to automatically print whatever is dropped in a mailbox. > Normally with Word for example, the print driver will handle > sending the > appropriate codes to the printer or what have you so that the > proper paper > is used. Nothing like that in Acrobat? No special > Postscript codes I can use/embed? No, nothing. A plug-in could be written to do this, with some difficulty. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 8:37:16-GMT,2585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03122 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:37:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29595; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 03:30:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 03:25:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29253; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 03:25:08 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:52:11 +0100 From: "Ken Thomson" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Dumb Printing Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA29247 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I may be barking up the wrong trtee here but have you tried, Colorcentral 3.5??? __________________________ Ken Thomson Application Specialist Scitex Support Newcastle Computer Services Belville House Ponteland NE20 9BD 01661 803000 email-"kent@ncs-plc.co.uk" __________________________ >>> "Aandi Inston" - 21/9/99 8:59 am >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > If I select it manually that certainly works, now imagine the > situation > where I want to automatically print whatever is dropped in a mailbox. > Normally with Word for example, the print driver will handle > sending the > appropriate codes to the printer or what have you so that the > proper paper > is used. Nothing like that in Acrobat? No special > Postscript codes I can use/embed? ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 14:26:19-GMT,2854;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10012 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:26:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23148; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:19:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:14:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22752; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:14:57 -0500 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567F3.004E601A.00@ojsmtpmta02.vapower.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:14:37 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Find vs. Search Discrepancy - Update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks to Angus, Carlos, and James for replies on this topic. As ususal, those responses have sharpened the issue. The Acrobat 4 User Guide says, "The Acrobat Search command allows you to perform full-text searches of PDF document collections that have been indexed using Acrobat Catalog, whereas the Acrobat Find command allows you to search only a single document." Full-text search implies that all occurrences of a search term (assume here a vanilla search for a single word, without any special search options) will be found and displayed within a document in the Search Results window. The Next Highlight should (progressively) display every instance of the word within each document. This has been our experience, confirmed as an appropriate understanding by James. Our problem is that in some documents, that Next Highlight will display only 2 or 3 instances of a word even though there are many more instances in that document. The Find function "does" display all the instances so we believe the PDF file itself is not corrupted (recreating the PDF and reindexing does not help). Does anyone have an idea why an index would not "see" all instances of a word in one document, yet will find all instances of that word in other documents in the same index? ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 16:22:08-GMT,3341;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13407 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:22:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32270; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:55:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:52:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32039; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:52:28 -0500 Message-ID: <37E7AAFD.6AE9@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:57:51 -0700 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Extracting pages from a PDF References: <199909211528.JAA15766@net.indra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Michael P. Thompson wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have a multi-page PDF supplied to me by a graphic designer. I need > to separate it into sections for use on a web site, but I am having > trouble. Apparently, the designer did not embed the fonts when she > created it. So if I print certain pages to file and Distill them, they come > out unreadable. If I import them into PageMaker and output to PDF, > I have the same problem. The pages are perfectly readable on screen, I > just need a way to separate them. I understand the full version of > Acrobat would do this, but I don't have access to that right now. I > have Distiller and Acrobat Reader and a limited version of Photoshop > that won't open the PDF. > > I looked around PDFZone for a freeware or shareware solution to this, > but didn't find what I was looking for. One program just crashed my > computer. Another just wouldn't do the job. Any suggestions? I have a suggestion, get Acrobat, the full version. I realize I am the Master of the Obvious here, but I am sure most people here will agree with me when I say that you will not regret getting this program. Acrobat really is an awesome program. Sometimes the easist solution is the most direct one. There are ways to get Acrobat cheaper than list price. For example, my college friend bought it for me, it was very inexpensive, not to mention a great gift. All you parents out there with kids in college, utilize their discounts at their college book/computer stores. Best regards, L. Spear ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 16:22:19-GMT,3010;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13415 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:22:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30122; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:32:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:28:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29598; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:28:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199909211528.JAA15766@net.indra.com> From: "Michael P. Thompson" Organization: The Resource Center for Associations To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:26:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Extracting pages from a PDF In-reply-to: X-LINE1: ABCDEF0123456789 X-PM-Encryptor: QDPGP, 4 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a multi-page PDF supplied to me by a graphic designer. I need to separate it into sections for use on a web site, but I am having trouble. Apparently, the designer did not embed the fonts when she created it. So if I print certain pages to file and Distill them, they come out unreadable. If I import them into PageMaker and output to PDF, I have the same problem. The pages are perfectly readable on screen, I just need a way to separate them. I understand the full version of Acrobat would do this, but I don't have access to that right now. I have Distiller and Acrobat Reader and a limited version of Photoshop that won't open the PDF. I looked around PDFZone for a freeware or shareware solution to this, but didn't find what I was looking for. One program just crashed my computer. Another just wouldn't do the job. Any suggestions? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: Public key: iQA/AwUBN+ejoPK9hc/UFrvDEQKtPACcDU8eyd78+KTVNUmkps3Xb51qgWIAn2Ao a1JFuqZlYLrYFkiK4ZGgWuXw =VIVe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ******Michael P. Thompson****** ****Director of Communications*** ***thompson@resourcenter.com*** ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 16:24:18-GMT,3035;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13469 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:24:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01634; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:17:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:14:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01400; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:14:49 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:08:58 -0400 From: "Robert Blackberg" To: , Subject: Re: [PDF] Find vs. Search Discrepancy - Update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA01395 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>> 09/21/99 10:14AM >>> >Our problem is that in some documents, that Next Highlight will display only 2 >or 3 instances of a word even though there are many more instances in that >document. The Find function "does" display all the instances so we believe the >PDF file itself is not corrupted (recreating the PDF and reindexing does not >help). Does anyone have an idea why an index would not "see" all instances of a >word in one document, yet will find all instances of that word in other >documents in the same index? I've run into this problem on occasion, and it is almost always fixed by creating a clean index file. Find the sub-directory for your index file. For example, if your index file is named "Document.pdx," then find the folder named "Document" in the same directory. Then delete the sub-directories under the "Document" directory. These should be named: Assists, Morgue, Parts, PDD, Style, Temp, Toicidx, Trans, and Work. Once these directories are deleted, rebuild the index in Catalog. What you've just done is perform a manual purge. I've found that to get a totaly clean index file, the manual process works better than the automated purge in the Catalog menu. Robert Blackberg Sr. Technical Writer Fiserv, Inc. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 18:28:21-GMT,2759;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17048 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13963; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:20:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:18:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13730; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:18:11 -0500 From: "Thane Terrill" To: Subject: [PDF] URLs on CD-ROM? Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:19:52 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01bf045d$e59fada0$3700a8c0@bic.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199907221947.OAA09153@everglades.binc.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm creating a CD-ROM that has PDF, HTML, RA files. One of the problems I found is that when the user jumps from HTML to PDF and then back again, there is a lot of loading time for Acrobat. I had the bright idea of creating a PDF version of my main screen so that there would be less loading. The problem I'm having is that when I do a web capture, Acrobat apparently won't work if the web browser is using files off a local disk. If I upload my files to a web server and then to the web capture, the URLs are absolute paths -- and thus will not work from my CD. I got rid of all the links from my captured page and decided to put the links back in manually. The problem here is that the URL option under linking does not seem to like my relative paths. I can use the open file option, but that loads a browser and the browser will not return the user to the PDF menu from which it came. I cannot capture the entire site since it is far too large. Any ideas would be welcomed. ==Thane ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 19:19:27-GMT,2154;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18400 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:19:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18980; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:11:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:05:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18376; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:05:18 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990921190646.00da35a8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:06:46 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] URLs on CD-ROM? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thane, I can't address all of your questions, but here's part of the answer: Adobe web capture's URL syntax requires the strict use FORWARD slashes. For example, to access c:\foo\bar\baz.html, the proper URL is: "file:///c|/foo/bar/baz.html" Tom At 02:19 PM 9/21/99 -0400, you wrote: >I had the bright idea of creating a PDF version of my main screen so that >there would be less loading. The problem I'm having is that when I do a web >capture, Acrobat apparently won't work if the web browser is using files off >a local disk. ... ==Thane ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 16:32:41-GMT,4444;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13685 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:32:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02479; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:25:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:22:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02200; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:22:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990921122818.00942c80@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:28:18 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Extracting pages from a PDF In-Reply-To: <199909211528.JAA15766@net.indra.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ One possible workaround: Open the PDF in Reader. Do File, Document Info, Fonts and note what fonts are required/used but not embedded. Let's say for purposes of argument that it uses BlarfoBold. Import the PDF pages you want into PM as you've already done. Use the text tool to create a new textbox atop the imported PDF page image, format it to BlarfoBold. It could be just a space character, but I'd generally prefer to make the text "BlarfoBold" so I know what it's supposed to be. Send it behind the PDF image (which is actually an EPS, by the way). That should be enough to force PM to download the font just before it sends the EPS, which should make it available when the EPS asks for it. Assuming you have the correct font, that is. At 09:26 AM 9/21/99 -0600, you wrote: > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >I have a multi-page PDF supplied to me by a graphic designer. I need >to separate it into sections for use on a web site, but I am having >trouble. Apparently, the designer did not embed the fonts when she >created it. So if I print certain pages to file and Distill them, they come >out unreadable. If I import them into PageMaker and output to PDF, >I have the same problem. The pages are perfectly readable on screen, I >just need a way to separate them. I understand the full version of >Acrobat would do this, but I don't have access to that right now. I >have Distiller and Acrobat Reader and a limited version of Photoshop >that won't open the PDF. > >I looked around PDFZone for a freeware or shareware solution to this, >but didn't find what I was looking for. One program just crashed my >computer. Another just wouldn't do the job. Any suggestions? > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 >Comment: Public key: > >iQA/AwUBN+ejoPK9hc/UFrvDEQKtPACcDU8eyd78+KTVNUmkps3Xb51qgWIAn2Ao >a1JFuqZlYLrYFkiK4ZGgWuXw >=VIVe >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >******Michael P. Thompson****** >****Director of Communications*** >***thompson@resourcenter.com*** > >________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ ><- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> ><- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> >__________________________________________________________________ > > > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Download four FREE brochures covering applications of Acrobat & PDF -> <- by Stephan Jaeggi: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/JaeggiPDFWorkflow.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 17:47:18-GMT,3100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15854 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:47:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10082; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:41:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:38:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09573; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:38:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:40:36 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com, PDF-Basics@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] NEW> Download free "Create Adobe PDF" Utility for Macintosh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Adobe Systems released today a simplified way for Apple Macintosh users to create PDF files from any software application. Used in tandem with the AdobePS 8.6 PostScript printer driver, the new "Create Adobe PDF" utility allows one to create PDF files without having to create a PostScript file or launching Acrobat Distiller. Distiller 4.x, part of the commercial Adobe Acrobat 4.0 package, must be *installed* on the user's Mac; the AdobePS 8.6 driver is also required. (NOTE: it will not work if *only* the free Acrobat Reader is installed.) After installing the new utility, it can accessed by choosing File > Page Setup from within any application using the 8.6 driver, then selecting "Create Adobe PDF" as the printer. Other settings in the print dialog window include the default Job Options in Distiller 4, along with any customized settings one may have created. Another option is having either Acrobat or Reader automatically launch the new PDF once it's created. The new utility is available in numerous language versions from Adobe; the English, French, Spanish and German versions are also available from PDFzone.com at: ° http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html Also available for the same languages is AdobePS 8.6 at: ° http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/AdobePSdriver.html rgds ~ Kurt ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1999 21:47:54-GMT,5125;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22436 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:47:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30608; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:14:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:10:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30113; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:10:26 -0500 Message-ID: <007d01bf0477$f9ba03c0$87aa4fd8@michael> From: "barabas" To: Subject: [PDF] PS Driver Version 4.3 problem Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:26:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01BF044E.0C80EFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BF044E.0C80EFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've just received my "InDesign" software, and the CD-ROM contains the = Adobe PS 4.3 drivers. During the installation, there was an option to = 'Update' my existing PS Printers. After doing so, I lost the ability to = print to the "Distiller Assistant [AdobePS]". This is the message I = received (taken from the '.log' file generated from Distiller): "%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: FatalErrorIf ]%% Stack: false /Times-Roman 12 470 100 ( ) 485 100 (printer. Please send this file to a Level 2 or 3 printer.) 500 100 (This job can print only on a PostScript\(R\) Level 2 or 3 ) -mark- %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%" Has anyone got any solutions to the problem, or can maybe help = troubleshoot this? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Send E-mail to... barabas@ziggycom.net Send E-mail to... barabas@ziggycom.net ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BF044E.0C80EFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've just received my = "InDesign"=20 software, and the CD-ROM contains the Adobe PS 4.3 drivers.  During = the=20 installation, there was an option to 'Update' my existing PS = Printers. =20 After doing so, I lost the ability to print to the "Distiller Assistant=20 [AdobePS]".  This is the message I received (taken from the '.log' = file=20 generated from Distiller):
"%%[ Error: undefined; = OffendingCommand:=20 FatalErrorIf ]%%
 
Stack:
false
/Times-Roman
12
470
100
(=20 )
485
100
(printer. Please send this file to a Level 2 or 3=20 printer.)
500
100
(This job can print only on a PostScript\(R\) = Level 2=20 or 3 )
-mark-
 

%%[ Flushing: rest of job = (to=20 end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No = PDF file=20 produced. ] %%"
 
Has anyone got any solutions = to the=20 problem, or can maybe help troubleshoot this?  Any help would be = greatly=20 appreciated!

Send E-mail = to...

barabas@ziggycom.net

<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BF044E.0C80EFC0-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 12:53:01-GMT,3949;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11847 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 06:52:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA09561; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:52:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:47:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08787; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:47:47 -0500 Message-ID: <003601bf050d$ab155940$6464a8c0@dirk> From: "dirk pauwels" To: , Subject: [PDFdev] rotated text in fields Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:18:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF051E.6D8677B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF051E.6D8677B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having trouble with text in formfields. Especially when they were duplicated to other pages. The text in the field occasionally is rotated 90 degrees in the field, = or even looks greeked. This happens both in Acrobat 3 and 4. Does anyone have any hint on this? (most of these fields get hidden or showed with javascript) Thanks, Dirk Pauwels Grafisch Vormgever Kenniscentrum Productiedesign VDAB Productontwikkeling dpauwels@skynet.be dpauwels@vdab.be www.vdab.be tel ++32 (0)14 44 51 99 fax ++32 (0)14 44 51 81 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF051E.6D8677B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am having trouble with text in = formfields.
Especially when they were duplicated to other=20 pages.
The text in the field occasionally is rotated 90 = degrees in=20 the field, or even looks greeked.
This happens both in Acrobat 3 and 4.
 
Does anyone have any hint on this?
 
(most of these fields get hidden or showed with=20 javascript)
 
Thanks,
Dirk Pauwels
Grafisch Vormgever
 
Kenniscentrum Productiedesign
VDAB=20 Productontwikkeling
dpauwels@skynet.be
dpauwels@vdab.be
www.vdab.be
tel ++32 (0)14 44 51 = 99
fax ++32=20 (0)14 44 51 81
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF051E.6D8677B0-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 13:02:11-GMT,3947;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12084 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:02:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09605; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:53:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:47:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08771; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:47:46 -0500 Message-ID: <003601bf050d$ab155940$6464a8c0@dirk> From: "dirk pauwels" To: , Subject: [PDF] rotated text in fields Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:18:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF051E.6D8677B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF051E.6D8677B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having trouble with text in formfields. Especially when they were duplicated to other pages. The text in the field occasionally is rotated 90 degrees in the field, = or even looks greeked. This happens both in Acrobat 3 and 4. Does anyone have any hint on this? (most of these fields get hidden or showed with javascript) Thanks, Dirk Pauwels Grafisch Vormgever Kenniscentrum Productiedesign VDAB Productontwikkeling dpauwels@skynet.be dpauwels@vdab.be www.vdab.be tel ++32 (0)14 44 51 99 fax ++32 (0)14 44 51 81 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF051E.6D8677B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am having trouble with text in = formfields.
Especially when they were duplicated to other=20 pages.
The text in the field occasionally is rotated 90 = degrees in=20 the field, or even looks greeked.
This happens both in Acrobat 3 and 4.
 
Does anyone have any hint on this?
 
(most of these fields get hidden or showed with=20 javascript)
 
Thanks,
Dirk Pauwels
Grafisch Vormgever
 
Kenniscentrum Productiedesign
VDAB=20 Productontwikkeling
dpauwels@skynet.be
dpauwels@vdab.be
www.vdab.be
tel ++32 (0)14 44 51 = 99
fax ++32=20 (0)14 44 51 81
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF051E.6D8677B0-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 13:39:45-GMT,2009;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12874 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:39:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14559; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:32:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:30:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14251; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:30:55 -0500 From: "Thane Terrill" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] URLs on CD-ROM? Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:32:41 -0400 Message-ID: <000601bf04fe$f1f5df10$3700a8c0@bic.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199909221247.HAA08807@everglades.binc.net> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Since I'm doing a CD-ROM, can I do relative paths? ==Thane > Adobe web capture's URL syntax requires the strict use FORWARD slashes. > For example, to access c:\foo\bar\baz.html, the proper URL is: "file:///c|/foo/bar/baz.html" ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 13:56:42-GMT,3981;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13190 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:56:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17371; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:56:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:51:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16860; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:51:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199909221351.GAA18784@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 06:51:37 -0700 Subject: [PDFdev] Re: [PDF-PP-L] TrueType From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com CC: Kurt Foss Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ > This is NOT an Acrobat 4 bug. What is happening is that Acrobat 4 > is obeying the licensing restrictions on the particular TrueType fonts. > If you check the font attributes (at least on a Windows system, this > is possible), you will find that the fonts are set for "No Embedding." > Acrobat requires "Print and Preview" embedding privileges to be set > in the font to allow the font to be embedded. I suggest you contact > your font vendor and inquire as to whether they can provide a copy > of the font that is not so highly protected. Adobe is only obeying > the licensing restriction of that font provider!!! > > - Dov > > >> At 9/21/99 01:59 AM , S Khullar wrote: >> One other problem is some True Type fonts give the following error when you >> try to embed them (Type 42) >> >> %%[ Error: XYZ-Fontname cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%% >> %%[ Error: invalidfont; OffendingCommand: xshow ]%% >> >> These font work fine if we convert them to PostScript (Outline) >> This is obviously a Acrobat 4 problem. >> >> Khullar This may, or may not, be true...that is about a font not being embedded being set for "No Embedding". I have tested what Dov is suggesting, yet Distiller refuses to embed a font that two programs say should be embeddable. ***I wonder if someone reading this thread can help me get to the bottom of this. I need someone with Fontographer on a PC to open a font for me and provide me a screen shot of one of the tables showing the bit masks of a certain font. I'm also curious if anyone knows what Fontographer's default setting is for fsType on either a PC or a Mac. Finally, has anyone used a program other than Fontographer to create a font? Please e-mail me privately. All responses will be held strictly confidential. TIA. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 13:59:25-GMT,3979;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13274 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:59:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17160; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:53:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:51:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16814; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:51:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199909221351.GAA18784@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 06:51:37 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] TrueType From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com CC: Kurt Foss Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > This is NOT an Acrobat 4 bug. What is happening is that Acrobat 4 > is obeying the licensing restrictions on the particular TrueType fonts. > If you check the font attributes (at least on a Windows system, this > is possible), you will find that the fonts are set for "No Embedding." > Acrobat requires "Print and Preview" embedding privileges to be set > in the font to allow the font to be embedded. I suggest you contact > your font vendor and inquire as to whether they can provide a copy > of the font that is not so highly protected. Adobe is only obeying > the licensing restriction of that font provider!!! > > - Dov > > >> At 9/21/99 01:59 AM , S Khullar wrote: >> One other problem is some True Type fonts give the following error when you >> try to embed them (Type 42) >> >> %%[ Error: XYZ-Fontname cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%% >> %%[ Error: invalidfont; OffendingCommand: xshow ]%% >> >> These font work fine if we convert them to PostScript (Outline) >> This is obviously a Acrobat 4 problem. >> >> Khullar This may, or may not, be true...that is about a font not being embedded being set for "No Embedding". I have tested what Dov is suggesting, yet Distiller refuses to embed a font that two programs say should be embeddable. ***I wonder if someone reading this thread can help me get to the bottom of this. I need someone with Fontographer on a PC to open a font for me and provide me a screen shot of one of the tables showing the bit masks of a certain font. I'm also curious if anyone knows what Fontographer's default setting is for fsType on either a PC or a Mac. Finally, has anyone used a program other than Fontographer to create a font? Please e-mail me privately. All responses will be held strictly confidential. TIA. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 14:29:15-GMT,2063;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14085 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:29:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20272; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:23:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:22:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20074; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:22:11 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000601bf04fe$f1f5df10$3700a8c0@bic.org> References: <199909221247.HAA08807@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:17:32 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] URLs on CD-ROM? Cc: "Thane Terrill" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thane, sure, relative paths work perfectly on a CD-ROM. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Since I'm doing a CD-ROM, can I do relative paths? > >==Thane > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 14:29:37-GMT,2271;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14097 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:29:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20379; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:24:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:23:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20237; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:23:32 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Custom Page Size Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:26:18 -0400 x-sender: geoffm@mail.novainc.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Geoff Manning To: "PDFZone" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1274112333-26586394@novainc.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am printing Postscript from QuarkXPress 3.32 with AdobePS 8.5.1 for my Postscript Driver. I am using a Color Laser Copier (CLC 700-800) as the printer type set im my Chooser. In Page Setup I switch to the Quark Preferences and set the Printer Type to Acrobat Distiller. Some of our documents have copy boxes that flow off the sides and bottom of the page for notes to our client. Is there a way to set the page height to whatever you want so that nothing is cut off. I know you can increase the page size in Acrobat, but the information I need is already cut off. ______________________ Geoff Manning Nova Marketing Production Dept. Quincy, MA 02169 617-770-0304 Ext. 26 ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 15:23:48-GMT,2877;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15565 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:23:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25779; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:16:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:15:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25673; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:15:22 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990922105038.01588a80@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:00:15 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Extracting pages from a PDF - don't forget base URL In-Reply-To: <199909221247.HAA08807@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ However you do it, if you are breaking up a file to put it on the web, or if you already have more than one file that will go on the web, set the BaseURL (File->Document Info->BaseURL). The BaseURL tells Adobe Acrobat to look on the web site for any files that you link to, rather than on a local drive. That is, if you have file1.pdf that links to file2.pdf, when the first file is at c:/myfiles/file1.pdf, Acrobat knows to look for the second file at c:/myfiles/file2.pdf. Put this all on the web, and things change. The first file actually downloads into a temporary directory on the machine you use to browse the web. Now, the first file is at c:/temp/file1.pdf. You don't want Acrobat looking for the second file at c:/temp/file2.pdf. So, set the base URL to http://www.dionis.com/test/. Then, when you click on the link on the first file, Acrobat knows to look for the file at http://www.dionis.com/test/file2.pdf instead of looking in the temporary directory. You will need to set the BaseURL for all of the files. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis p.s. Those URL's are for an example; you won't get anywhere by clicking on them. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 15:24:06-GMT,2774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15571 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:23:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25745; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:16:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:14:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25515; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:14:03 -0500 Message-ID: <37E8F25B.1B4D5984@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:14:35 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Window resizing and cross documents Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm trying to create a document such that when I open it using Acrobat it will resize it to the first page. What I've done is under File-->Document Info--> Open 1. Set magnification to 100 (I want the document to open at actual size) 2. Checked Resize Window to Initial Page 3. Checked Centre Window on Screen These properties were saved. What I've encountered is that when I first have Acrobat open (say with some other document) and its window size is say full screen, the window doesn't resize when I open the document to the initial page although it has been set. But if the window that I had open earlier happens to be smaller than the document, then it works. Has anyone encountered this and know if this is a bug or whether there is a workaround ? The other problem I've noticed is that in Acrobat 4.0 the Open Cross-Doc Links in the Same Window option seems to work the opposite way. That is when it is checked, new documents cause the previous to be closed, whereas when unchecked it opens in the same window. This is confusing and I was wondering if this is a bug in Acrobat 4. Would appreciate any comments from anyone. Thanks Josephine Leong ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 18:38:32-GMT,2221;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21474 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:38:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14577; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:32:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:28:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13987; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:28:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:26:26 -0500 From: "Daniel Schmidt" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Converting Quark to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA13983 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm running Quark Xpress 4.x and Acrobat 3.0. I need to convert the Quark document to a pdf. I'm printing to a .ps file then using distiller to create the pdf. The document is almost all photos/graphics that is intended for the web so the resulting pdf size is important. Is this the best way of creating the pdf? Or would it be more efficient exporting/saving the Quark document as an .eps file then running it through distiller? Does Acrobat 4.0 have better compression? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks, Daniel Schmidt ShopKo Stores Inc. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 19:16:05-GMT,2911;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22587 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:16:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17770; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:59:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:57:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17634; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:57:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393A6A@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Quark to PDF Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:56:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From what I'm reading, I'd stick with Acrobat 3 if small file size is important to you. Seems Distiller 4 makes larger PDFs than 3 does. Todd Reid -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Schmidt [mailto:dschmidt@shopko.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 12:26 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Converting Quark to PDF The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm running Quark Xpress 4.x and Acrobat 3.0. I need to convert the Quark document to a pdf. I'm printing to a .ps file then using distiller to create the pdf. The document is almost all photos/graphics that is intended for the web so the resulting pdf size is important. Is this the best way of creating the pdf? Or would it be more efficient exporting/saving the Quark document as an .eps file then running it through distiller? Does Acrobat 4.0 have better compression? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks, Daniel Schmidt ShopKo Stores Inc. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 19:17:48-GMT,2039;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22615 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:17:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20059; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:13:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:12:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19846; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:12:25 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990922150525.0095d100@dalymusic.com> X-Sender: mdaly@dalymusic.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 (demo) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:08:53 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Michael Daly Subject: [PDF] pdf printing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know how to have a customer print a pdf file from a server without having the file download and reside on the cache or temp directory? I would like to offer a printed pdf file but not allow the customer access to the actual pdf. I do understand the security options available within the file for editing etc., but this is more towards not serving up the actual file - just a print job from it. Thanks Michael ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 19:30:14-GMT,2319;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23028 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:30:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21700; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:25:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:24:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21498; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:24:34 -0500 Message-id: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:32:05 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting Quark to PDF To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >I'm running Quark Xpress 4.x and Acrobat 3.0. I need to convert the >Quark document to a pdf. >I'm printing to a .ps file then using distiller to create the pdf. >The document is almost all photos/graphics that is intended for the web >so the resulting pdf size is important. >Is this the best way of creating the pdf? Or would it be more efficient >exporting/saving the Quark document as an .eps file then running it >through distiller? >Does Acrobat 4.0 have better compression? I agree with Todd. Stick with Acrobat Distiller 3.0 for now. There will be an Acrobat 4.05 updater before long which should fix the compression problem in Acrobat Distiller 4. And, yes, creating a PS file is the way to go...don't use an EPS file because Quark doesn't properly write fonts into an EPS. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 19:40:56-GMT,1913;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23324 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22863; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:33:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:31:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22531; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:31:55 -0500 Message-ID: <37E90C0E.17BCBFFD@abk-stuttgart.de> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:04:15 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= John X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-22-99 [V2 #623] References: <199909221247.HAA08807@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Why doesn't PDFZone distribute the discussion digest in PDF format? I find it very annoying to scroll through the messages with all that ugly stuff around them. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 19:49:18-GMT,2981;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23539 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24025; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:43:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:40:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23538; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:40:47 -0500 Message-ID: <19990922195220.836.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: John Posada Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf printing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ off the top of my head... Have your programmer-dudes put together some type of script that will call the pdf, output it to postscript by printing to file as a PS, and send the postscript file directly to a PS printer. > Does anyone know how to have a customer print a pdf > file from a server > without having the file download and reside on the > cache or temp directory? > > I would like to offer a printed pdf file but not > allow the customer access > to the actual pdf. > I do understand the security options available > within the file for editing > etc., but this is more towards not serving up the > actual file - just a > print job from it. > > Thanks > > Michael > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * > __________________ > <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with > free "Create Adobe PDF" -> > <- > http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html > -> > __________________________________________________________________ > > ===== John Posada, Merck Research Laboratories Sr Technical Writer, WinHelp and html (work) john_posada@merck.com - 732-594-0873 (pers) jposada01@yahoo.com - 732-291-7811 "The art of creating software that is usable by individuals is a communication skill. It is not a programming skill." --Bill Atkinson, creator of MacPaint and HyperCard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 19:50:53-GMT,2476;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23595 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:50:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24383; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:46:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:43:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23986; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:43:31 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-22-99 [V2 #623] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:43:21 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01bf0532$b9b34320$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37E90C0E.17BCBFFD@abk-stuttgart.de> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Why doesn't PDFZone distribute the discussion digest in PDF format? > I find it very annoying to scroll through the messages with > all that ugly stuff around them. If you're suggesting that PDFZone should e-mail PDFs to a mailing list, I'd have to disagree. Too much pain. It might be useful to have them on the web site, but what "ugly stuff" do you think will disappear by making a PDF? The ugly stuff is mostly people who don't take the time to trim back quotes before posting their message, despite repeated reminders and requests not to, and people who post HTML or RTF format e-mails. It would all be there in a PDF, so how would that improve matters? Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 20:13:41-GMT,11399;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24172 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:13:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27701; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:08:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:06:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27423; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:06:52 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990922111758.00a79de0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:06:00 -0700 To: "Rich Sprague" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] TrueType Embedding Mishagoss Cc: pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, Kurt Foss In-Reply-To: <199909221351.GAA18784@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_66659110==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_66659110==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rich, Actually, there is one additional "wrinkle" to this problem. It turns out that there is a bug in Fontographer associated with the embedding settings. The degree to which a font may be embedded in a document (Microsoft Office document, PDF file, etc.) is controlled by the "fsType" field in the "OS/2" table of TrueType and OpenType fonts. Valid values for "fsType" are as follows (to quote the TrueType font specification): Restricted License embedding (0x0002): Fonts that have this bit set must not be modified, embedded or exchanged in any manner without first obtaining permission of the legal owner. Preview & Print embedding (0x0004): Fonts with this bit set indicate that they may be embedded within documents but must only be installed temporarily on the remote system. Any document which includes a Preview & Print embedded font must be opened “read-only;” the application must not allow the user to edit the document; it can only be viewed and/or printed. Editable embedding (0x0008): Fonts with this bit set indicate that they may be embedded in documents, but must only be installed temporarily on the remote system. In contrast to Preview & Print fonts, documents containing Editable fonts may be opened “read-write;” editing is permitted, and changes may be saved. Installable embedding (0x0000): Fonts with this setting indicate that they may be embedded and permanently installed on the remote system by an application. The user of the remote system acquires the identical rights, obligations and licenses for that font as the original purchaser of the font, and is subject to the same end-user license agreement, copyright, design patent, and/or trademark as was the original purchaser. All other bit values are reserved and are not to be used. Acrobat Distiller will only embed TrueType fonts with fsType values of 0x0000, 0x0008, or 0x0004. Fontographer has been known to create fonts with fsType set to 0x0001 which is effectively undefined. The Acrobat Distiller 4.0 treats this undefined value to be the same as 0x0002. This has been posted as an issue within Adobe. A decision will be made as to whether to accommodate the errant fonts and treat them as if they had the value 0x0000 (installable embedding). - Dov At 9/22/99 06:51 AM , Rich Sprague wrote: > > This is NOT an Acrobat 4 bug. What is happening is that Acrobat 4 > > is obeying the licensing restrictions on the particular TrueType fonts. > > If you check the font attributes (at least on a Windows system, this > > is possible), you will find that the fonts are set for "No Embedding." > > Acrobat requires "Print and Preview" embedding privileges to be set > > in the font to allow the font to be embedded. I suggest you contact > > your font vendor and inquire as to whether they can provide a copy > > of the font that is not so highly protected. Adobe is only obeying > > the licensing restriction of that font provider!!! > > > > - Dov > > > > > >> At 9/21/99 01:59 AM , S Khullar wrote: > >> One other problem is some True Type fonts give the following error when you > >> try to embed them (Type 42) > >> > >> %%[ Error: XYZ-Fontname cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%% > >> %%[ Error: invalidfont; OffendingCommand: xshow ]%% > >> > >> These font work fine if we convert them to PostScript (Outline) > >> This is obviously a Acrobat 4 problem. > >> > >> Khullar > >This may, or may not, be true...that is about a font not being embedded >being set for "No Embedding". I have tested what Dov is suggesting, yet >Distiller refuses to embed a font that two programs say should be >embeddable. > >***I wonder if someone reading this thread can help me get to the bottom of >this. > >I need someone with Fontographer on a PC to open a font for me and provide >me a screen shot of one of the tables showing the bit masks of a certain >font. > >I'm also curious if anyone knows what Fontographer's default setting is for >fsType on either a PC or a Mac. > >Finally, has anyone used a program other than Fontographer to create a font? > >Please e-mail me privately. All responses will be held strictly >confidential. > >TIA. > >Rich --=====================_66659110==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Rich,

Actually, there is one additional "wrinkle" to this problem.
It turns out that there is a bug in Fontographer associated
with the embedding settings.

The degree to which a font may be embedded in a document
(Microsoft Office document, PDF file, etc.) is controlled by the
"fsType" field in the "OS/2" table of TrueType and OpenType fonts.

Valid values for "fsType" are as follows (to quote the TrueType
font specification):

Restricted License embedding (0x0002): Fonts that have this
bit set must not be modified, embedded or exchanged in any
manner without first obtaining permission of the legal owner.

Preview & Print embedding (0x0004): Fonts with this bit set
indicate that they may be embedded within documents but must
only be installed temporarily on the remote system. Any document
which includes a Preview & Print embedded font must be opened
“read-only;” the application must not allow the user to edit the
document; it can only be viewed and/or printed.

Editable embedding (0x0008): Fonts with this bit set indicate
that they may be embedded in documents, but must only be installed
temporarily on the remote system. In contrast to Preview & Print
fonts, documents containing Editable fonts may be opened
“read-write;” editing is permitted, and changes may be saved.

Installable embedding (0x0000): Fonts with this setting indicate
that they may be embedded and permanently installed on the remote
system by an application. The user of the remote system acquires
the identical rights, obligations and licenses for that font as the
original purchaser of the font, and is subject to the same end-user
license agreement, copyright, design patent, and/or trademark as
was the original purchaser.

All other bit values are reserved and are not to be used.

Acrobat Distiller will only embed TrueType fonts with fsType
values of 0x0000, 0x0008, or 0x0004.

Fontographer has been known to create fonts with fsType set to
0x0001 which is effectively undefined. The Acrobat Distiller 4.0
treats this undefined value to be the same as 0x0002. This has
been posted as an issue within Adobe. A decision will be made
as to whether to accommodate the errant fonts and treat them as
if they had the value 0x0000 (installable embedding).

        - Dov



At 9/22/99 06:51 AM , Rich Sprague wrote:
> This is NOT an Acrobat 4 bug. What is happening is that Acrobat 4
> is obeying the licensing restrictions on the particular TrueType fonts.
> If you check the font attributes (at least on a Windows system, this
> is possible), you will find that the fonts are set for "No Embedding."
> Acrobat requires "Print and Preview" embedding privileges to be set
> in the font to allow the font to be embedded. I suggest you contact
> your font vendor and inquire as to whether they can provide a copy
> of the font that is not so highly protected. Adobe is only obeying
> the licensing restriction of that font provider!!!
>
>          - Dov
>
>
>> At 9/21/99 01:59 AM , S Khullar wrote:
>> One other problem is some True Type fonts give the following error when you
>> try to embed them (Type 42)
>>
>> %%[ Error: XYZ-Fontname cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%%
>> %%[ Error: invalidfont; OffendingCommand: xshow ]%%
>>
>> These font work fine if we convert them to PostScript (Outline)
>> This is obviously a Acrobat 4 problem.
>>
>> Khullar

This may, or may not, be true...that is about a font not being embedded
being set for "No Embedding". I have tested what Dov is suggesting, yet
Distiller refuses to embed a font that two programs say should be
embeddable.

***I wonder if someone reading this thread can help me get to the bottom of
this.

I need someone with Fontographer on a PC to open a font for me and provide
me a screen shot of one of the tables showing the bit masks of a certain
font.

I'm also curious if anyone knows what Fontographer's default setting is for
fsType on either a PC or a Mac.

Finally, has anyone used a program other than Fontographer to create a font?

Please e-mail me privately. All responses will be held strictly
confidential.

TIA.

Rich
--=====================_66659110==_.ALT-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 22:02:02-GMT,4960;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27155 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:01:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08966; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:48:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:45:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08539; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:45:10 -0500 Message-ID: <91EA60B94D5CD3118DB60090279AA4210DCC83@gsoexch.asapsc.com> From: "Perry, Bob" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: rotated text in fields Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:44:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF0543.B3EC95FC" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF0543.B3EC95FC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've had the same problem. When that text rotates 90 degrees you have to throw the file away. I never did find the cause of it, but it seemed to happen in PDFs with lots of form fields, and especially when the fields were duplicated. The number of annotations definitely is the main factor. I found the best way to prevent it is to SaveAs often. I know its aggravating, but never duplicate more than 10 fields without saving. On really complex documents I make sure to make frequent backup copies. Nothing feels worse than losing an entire file after spending 2 hours on it. -Bob Perry -----Original Message----- I am having trouble with text in formfields. Especially when they were duplicated to other pages. The text in the field occasionally is rotated 90 degrees in the field, = or even looks greeked. This happens both in Acrobat 3 and 4. Does anyone have any hint on this? (most of these fields get hidden or showed with javascript) Thanks, Dirk Pauwels Grafisch Vormgever ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF0543.B3EC95FC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: rotated text in fields

I've had the same problem. When that = text rotates 90 degrees you have to throw the file away. I never did = find the cause of it, but it seemed to happen in PDFs with lots of form = fields, and especially when the fields were duplicated. The number of = annotations definitely is the main factor.  I found the best way = to prevent it is to SaveAs often. I know its aggravating, but never = duplicate more than 10 fields without saving. On really complex = documents I make sure to make frequent backup copies. Nothing feels = worse than losing an entire file after spending 2 hours on = it.

-Bob Perry

      -----Original = Message-----
      I am having trouble with text in = formfields.
      Especially when they were duplicated = to other pages.
      The text in the field occasionally is = rotated 90 degrees in the field, =3D
      or even looks greeked.
      This happens both in Acrobat 3 and = 4.

      Does anyone have any hint on = this?

      (most of these fields get hidden or = showed with javascript)

      Thanks,
      Dirk Pauwels
      Grafisch Vormgever

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF0543.B3EC95FC-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 15:33:31-GMT,2137;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15906 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:33:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26985; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:27:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:25:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26831; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:25:51 -0500 Posted-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:00:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909221600.KAA29595@Brockman.NetPub.Com> Subject: [PDF] How can I see/print the separations of a PDF file? Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:30:00 -0600 x-sender: mgeary@imap.netpub.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Michael Geary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Folks, With all the talk about using PDFs in prepress, I'm trying to figure out how to view and print the separations of a PDF file. Acrobat 4 doesn't seem to have a "Print Separations" option like Quark does. How can this be done? Am I overlooking something? If I can't make separations, how can PDFs be used in prepress? Thanks, michael geary Michael Geary Multimedia Developer Network Publishing / Intelligroup (801) 377-7928 x143 mgeary@netpub.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 22:26:32-GMT,1729;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27973 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:26:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13025; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:18:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:17:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12840; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:17:35 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SYBEX From: "Bill Gibson" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882567F4.007AAE4A.00@sybex.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:09:08 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Windows Quark 4 to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Group, I'm interested in hearing about experiences creating PDFs for print from Quark 4 on Windows. I would likely be using Type 1 fonts. What printer driver(s) were used? Font management utility? Thanks ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 22:46:26-GMT,2916;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28513 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15724; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:39:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:38:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15429; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:38:10 -0500 From: "Lars Hoj" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Windows Quark 4 to PDF Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:34:39 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have been using Distiller for Acrobat 4 directly from the Print Dialog in Quark 4. Works like a charm; much better than with 3.32. Uses ATM on NT. No problems at all, not special setup needed. Only the usual thing - never mix Type 1 and TT fonts. Kind regards Lars -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Bill Gibson Sent: 23. september 1999 00:09 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Windows Quark 4 to PDF The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Group, I'm interested in hearing about experiences creating PDFs for print from Quark 4 on Windows. I would likely be using Type 1 fonts. What printer driver(s) were used? Font management utility? Thanks ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 22:55:28-GMT,2511;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28782 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:55:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15823; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:40:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:39:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15634; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:39:12 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA278C25A9@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF Version 1.3 vs. 1.2 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:38:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm using a product called SearchKey to index my hybrid html/pdf collection to CD. My CDs have HTML pages that point to PDF files. The browser is used for navigation and as an overall shell. It's a way of keeping our website and CDs in synch. SearchKey is a java tool and it launches a virtual server at boot time that responds to an html form for searching. It's quite slick. It indexes HTML and PDF files. Anyway, we're running into indexing problems and their tool is reporting back that it can't handle PDF 1.3 files. Is there any way to batch convert 1.3 files back to 1.2, and if so, what do you lose in the process? These are huge collections and to go back to source and redistill in some cases is not possible. Any help would be appreciated. Kenny Schiff Technology Marketing Solutions "We put people in front of technology" http://www.techmarketingsolutions.com mailto:kenny.schiff@tms5.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 23:14:58-GMT,2594;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29271 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:14:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19532; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:10:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:08:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19296; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:08:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199909222308.SAA09272@mailgw02.execpc.com> Subject: [PDF] Distiller, Font Reserve, problem Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:12:23 -0500 x-sender: wordwise@mail.execpc.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Chuck Miller To: "PDF Lists" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Gentlefolk- I have Distiller 4 on a Mac. Use Font Reserve to boss around the type. FR holds my large main library in its Vault. Separately, I have 3 folders with font families inside. Each family is in a subfolder of its own. The problem is that Distiller apparently doesn't have access to the fonts that Font Reserve has opened to the system. There are can't find font messages and Courier is substituted. In Distiller under Font Locations I've tried different combinations without success (the FR Vault, the whole FR folder, the [big] folders of font families, etc.) Including all that results in a delay of about 4 minutes part way through distilling (Distiller searching?) but doesn't produce the correct fonts. My workaround is to save the Quark doc as an eps, open in Illustrator, and save with fonts included, then distill. That's worked for a couple pieces. Has anyone faced and conquered this? TIA Chuck Miller wordwise@execpc.com Appleton WI USA ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 23:31:29-GMT,2401;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29723 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:31:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21363; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:26:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:25:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21228; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:25:25 -0500 Message-ID: <8161B6E166F0D111BDB300A0C9A72B1006BACC@zeronras1.zeroninteractive.co.nz> From: Simon Pickford To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDFs from MS Office Binder? Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:09:56 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm having trouble generating PDFs from MS Binder (containing Word files). I'm working on Windows NT with Acrobat 4.0 (PDF Writer) : Is there a way of making the whole Binder one PDF file? At the moment if I select 'print all' from Binder it generates separate files - it completes the first file and then tries to do the second but crashes because it seems to use the same file name again. The only way I can see at the moment is generating each PDF separately and then combining them - very time consuming! Any experience with Binder/PDF? Cheers Simon Zeron Interactive Ltd Auckland, New Zealand Phone: +64 9 623 8550 DDI: +64 9 623 8560 Mob: 021 659 034 Email: simon.pickford@zeroninteractive.com Web: http://www.zeroninteractive.com/ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 23:41:42-GMT,4085;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29966 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:41:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22477; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:37:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:35:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22364; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:35:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199909222335.QAA02605@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:35:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller, Font Reserve, problem From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > I have Distiller 4 on a Mac. Use Font Reserve to boss around the type. FR > holds my large main library in its Vault. Separately, I have 3 folders > with font families inside. Each family is in a subfolder of its own. > > The problem is that Distiller apparently doesn't have access to the fonts > that Font Reserve has opened to the system. There are can't find font > messages and Courier is substituted. In Distiller under Font Locations > I've tried different combinations without success (the FR Vault, the > whole FR folder, the [big] folders of font families, etc.) Including all > that results in a delay of about 4 minutes part way through distilling > (Distiller searching?) but doesn't produce the correct fonts. > > My workaround is to save the Quark doc as an eps, open in Illustrator, > and save with fonts included, then distill. That's worked for a couple > pieces. > > Has anyone faced and conquered this? TIA > > > Chuck Miller > wordwise@execpc.com > Appleton WI USA Chuck: The first thing you should do is make sure you are checking the box that says something to the effect to include all fonts in the PS file you save. I have a tech doc available at http://www.pdfzone.com that shows how to make a PDF file from a Quark doc. It assumes you are using Quark 4.x and Adobe's PS Printer Driver or Apple's LaserWriter Driver 8.6. But the principle is to include all your fonts in Quark's PS file. This helps Distiller a lot. However, in the Job Options > Fonts in Distiller you will see an item that says Base 14 fonts. If you've already told Distiller where your fonts are located, this becomes a pop-up window. By selecting each font you want embedded you can force Distiller to find the fonts you need. Just save your customized options and you should be set. Including the fonts in the PS file normally works, however. Let me know how you come out. Good luck. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 23:48:53-GMT,2807;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00142 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:48:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23185; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:43:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:42:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23052; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:42:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199909222342.QAA02846@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:42:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows Quark 4 to PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'm interested in hearing about experiences creating PDFs for print from > Quark 4 on Windows. I would likely be using Type 1 fonts. What printer > driver(s) were used? Font management utility? Use Acrobat 4...Press Optimized Settings (I assume that by print, you mean high-end offset printing -- slight slip of the terms tongue by Adobe, there)...might want to turn off the preserve OPI comments in the Distiller Job Options > Advanced Tab and save your custom settings...Type 1 fonts are best, as they *all* are embeddable (not like their TrueType counterparts who constantly rear their ugly head with license restrictions)...using PS T1 fonts, of course, requires that you buy Adobe Type Manager...for print driver, choose the Distiller Printer which Acrobat installs. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1999 23:56:37-GMT,2967;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00354 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:56:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24113; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:51:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:50:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23849; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:50:24 -0500 Message-id: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:57:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller, Font Reserve, problem To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >I have Distiller 4 on a Mac. Use Font Reserve to boss around the type. FR >holds my large main library in its Vault. Separately, I have 3 folders >with font families inside. Each family is in a subfolder of its own. > >The problem is that Distiller apparently doesn't have access to the fonts >that Font Reserve has opened to the system. There are can't find font >messages and Courier is substituted. In Distiller under Font Locations >I've tried different combinations without success (the FR Vault, the >whole FR folder, the [big] folders of font families, etc.) Including all >that results in a delay of about 4 minutes part way through distilling >(Distiller searching?) but doesn't produce the correct fonts. > >My workaround is to save the Quark doc as an eps, open in Illustrator, >and save with fonts included, then distill. That's worked for a couple >pieces. > >Has anyone faced and conquered this? TIA Rich's solution is the best choice. You shouldn't try to use Quark EPS files because they don't embed the fonts. The best choice is to create PostScript files (which Rich suggests) and process the PS through Distiller. In the printer driver settings, select Embed All for the fonts. Then, you don't have to worry about getting Distiller to find the Font Reserve fonts at all...the fonts are already in the PostScript stream. Best, Steve Werner Training Manager Rapid Graphics San Francisco, CA ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 2:22:19-GMT,3217;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03937 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:22:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08027; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:17:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:14:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07752; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:14:49 -0500 Message-ID: <37E98C75.9E1A04D9@dconstructs.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:12:05 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting Quark to PDF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Go directly from Quark into Distiller using the Adobe Print driver. Leave the compression settings as they are in distiller as the file size will be suitable due to the fact images are jpegs to a medium level of quality. Hope this helps. R. Moran Daniel Schmidt wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I'm running Quark Xpress 4.x and Acrobat 3.0. I need to convert the Quark document to a pdf. > I'm printing to a .ps file then using distiller to create the pdf. > The document is almost all photos/graphics that is intended for the web so the resulting pdf size is important. > Is this the best way of creating the pdf? Or would it be more efficient exporting/saving the Quark document as an .eps file then running it through distiller? > Does Acrobat 4.0 have better compression? > > Any advice is appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Daniel Schmidt > ShopKo Stores Inc. > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> > __________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 4:24:06-GMT,2322;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06807 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:24:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18398; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:15:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:13:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18202; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:13:02 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] TrueType Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:04:01 +0530 Message-ID: <01bf057c$dbc026f0$02c802c0@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Group Thanks a lot, The "License Restriction" issue was taken up well and the problem-solution is now well "embedded" [;-) But there is still the problem of editing TrueType fonts even if they are embedded. I have observed cases in Acrobat 4 where the embedded TrueType font wont edit (when the font is not present in the local system) and when it edits (mostly when the font is present in the local system) it substitutes wrong fonts. This never happens with Type 1 font. The requirement of last minute correction at the output bureau, which PDF is supposed to handle, is it limited to only Type 1 fonts??? S Khullar ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 6:54:51-GMT,2624;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10287 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:54:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA28778; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:48:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:46:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA28646; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:46:35 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller, Font Reserve, problem Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 07:46:28 +0100 Message-ID: <002501bf058f$5def76a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199909222308.SAA09272@mailgw02.execpc.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have Distiller 4 on a Mac. Use Font Reserve to boss around > the type. FR > holds my large main library in its Vault. Separately, I have > 3 folders > with font families inside. Each family is in a subfolder of its own. > > The problem is that Distiller apparently doesn't have access > to the fonts > that Font Reserve has opened to the system.... Distiller, perhaps surprisingly, doesn't know OR care what fonts are active in the system. It looks only in the specified font folders and will pick up whatever is there, active or not. This should not be a major problem. Just be sure your PostScript driver is embedding all fonts, and then Distiller can find them that way. This won't happen if you make a Quark EPS - which is the main reason to avoid Quark EPS files. Distill a print file, not an EPS. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 10:34:33-GMT,2226;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14858 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 04:34:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10444; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:21:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:18:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10168; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:18:39 -0500 Message-ID: <37E9FC3F.2B2B4270@teleweb.at> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:09:04 +0200 From: "Wilhelm G. JANY" Organization: WJT- Wien X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] WebLinks in Acrobat 4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hallo to Everbody in this list, we run into follwing problem, thanks for any reply and help: STATUS We created Acrobat 3 Docs incl. WeLinks on a Web Server.(Working on the Base URL adding an ID for a database). This was working with Acrobat Reader 3.02 (3.01 was not working) as well as in Microsoft Explorer and Netscape Navigator. PROBLEM We want to use the same docs, by viewing with Acrobat Reader 4. Now we get the same problems like before (working on Reader 3.01). The problems appears as well on Mocrosoft or Netscape Internet Explorer. Thanks for any reply, Wilhelm G. Jany - WJT jany@teleweb.at ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 10:53:39-GMT,2010;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA15231 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 04:53:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA11968; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:42:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:39:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA11658; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:39:53 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:39:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] WebLinks in Acrobat 4 From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990923103814.RMPW7833.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > PROBLEM > We want to use the same docs, by viewing with Acrobat Reader 4. Now we > get the same problems like before (working on Reader 3.01). The problems > appears as well on Mocrosoft or Netscape Internet Explorer. > > Thanks for any reply, > > Wilhelm G. Jany - WJT What are the problems? Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 9:33:49-GMT,3210;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA13722 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 03:33:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06679; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 04:25:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 04:22:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06514; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 04:22:47 -0500 Message-ID: <37E9F0B6.27B4581B@phbrink.ie> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:19:50 +0100 From: Deirdre Treacy Organization: P.H. Brink International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF problems with Central European font Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Well here's one problem that I've been stewing on for a few days now. I have been trying (unsuccessfully) to create a Pdf from a Polish Pagemaker file. I am able to create the postscript file with no problems (using HP 4000 Series PS driver) but when I run the PS through Distiller (3.0 v3.01) I keep getting an invalid HelveticaCE character outline data error message - this happens around page 10 of the 15 page document. I have checked to see if the font has been correctly installed and it appears to be: the .pfm and .pfb files are all in their correct folders. I have also made sure that the "Embed all Fonts" option in Distiller is turned on and that the Font Locations directories in Distiller are searching the right places. No matter what different settings I use there are still certain characters which simply are not visible and won't print from the Pdf. For some reason the "A" (Alt 0165) won't appear after I distill the file, however if I change the font from HelveticaCE to HelveticaCEBold and then distill the file this character then appears. I think the problem might be that one of the .pfb's is not installed correctly although I can't be positive on this. I have also tried printing directly to a PDFWriter but that doesn't work. I have tried printing to an .eps format and distilling from that but to no avail as well as using the Export to Pdf option in PageMaker but again certain characters won't appear. Any advice given would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Deirdre Treacy (DTP Department, P.H. 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MORE: EMAIL: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ___end___ 23-Sep-1999 17:31:29-GMT,2387;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25581 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:31:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17306; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:22:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:18:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16753; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:17:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:16:15 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tim Murphy Subject: [PDF] Import Image - Exchange 3.0 & Acrobat 4.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I just loaded Acrobat 4.0 and noticed that when I import a TIF file, it makes a much larger PDF file than the older Version 3.0 exchange - More than twice as large... Are there settings for how the Import Plug-in works? Here are the details: 1. I scan a black & white drawing (8.5' x 14") at 400 Dpi and save it as a compressed TIF (monochrome) file from a HP scanner. 2. I tweak (clean up) the file in Paint Shop Pro 5.0 and assign a size of 400 Dpi at 11" x 17" and save it. The TIF file is now 940 KB. 3. I import it into exchange 3.0 and end up with a PDF that is 209 KB. (not to bad) 4. Now I import the same TIF into Acrobat 4.0 and it ends up as a PDF that is 427 KB. What happened? I assume both versions are using CCITT Group 4 compression. Is there anything I can do in 4.0 (short of Distilling) to get a better import? Thanks in advance Tim ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 18:41:53-GMT,2351;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27570 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:41:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24914; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:35:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:33:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24646; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:32:58 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Import Image - Exchange 3.0 & Acrobat 4.0 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:32:50 +0100 Message-ID: <003701bf05f2$0ac0df60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I just loaded Acrobat 4.0 and noticed that when I import a > TIF file, it > makes a much larger PDF file than the older Version 3.0 > exchange - More > than twice as large... In my view Image Import has only one use: preparation for (paper) Capture. The files are barely compressed or uncompressed, and so not really a final format. Sadly, if this was Adobe's intention, all the negative words got filtered out by marketing on the way to the documentation, so there is no clue that image import is anything other than a splendid idea. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 18:51:19-GMT,2373;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27819 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:51:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25798; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:45:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:44:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25697; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:44:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990923144203.007e8cf0@bresnanlink.net> X-Sender: fosmire@bresnanlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:42:03 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] Printing rotated pages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On one of my printers, I cannot print any pages which have been rotated. Another printer has no hesitation in printing a PDF file which has a mix of portrait and landscape (rotated from portrait) pages. The first printer prints blank pages for the rotated ones. When the command to print "current page" is given for a rotated page, Acrobat comes up with an entirely uninformative message: "There has been a printer error." Using Acrobat 4. The misbehaving printer has a lot of memory (18 MB) on board, and the computer has a lot of memory plus disk swap space, so memory constraints would not seem to be a factor. ============================== M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@bresnanlink.net http://www.sismich.com/msf.htm ============================== ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 20:54:39-GMT,2438;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01201 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:54:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04513; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:48:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:46:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04254; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:46:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Import Image - Exchange 3.0 & Acrobat 4.0 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:50:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > I just loaded Acrobat 4.0 and noticed that when I import a > > TIF file, it > > makes a much larger PDF file than the older Version 3.0 > > exchange - More > > than twice as large... Yes, we've noticed this too. Bummer. Yet another reason to keep a few Acrobat 3 installs around! > In my view Image Import has only one use: preparation for > (paper) Capture. The files are barely compressed or uncompressed, > and so not really a final format. We find importing CCITT Group 4 TIFF images to PDF via Acrobat 3.0x "Import Image" to be effective -- ie; the images retain their original compression. Original files compressed in ways OTHER than CCITT G4 will indeed, as Aandi indicates, suffer from the Importing process. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 20:56:13-GMT,3787;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01223 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:56:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04685; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:50:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:49:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04587; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:49:39 -0500 Message-ID: <37EA9090.6BA02676@teleweb.at> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:41:52 +0200 From: "Wilhelm G. JANY" Organization: WJT- Wien X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] WebLinks in Acrobat 4 - Reply to Jason Belec References: <19990923103814.RMPW7833.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Jason Belec, and other readers of this message by using a web link like this (at an Articel Nr of a pdf sparepart catalogue on the web, matching an oracle Database) >>>>>>>>>> http://www.xyz.com/path1/pb/pb_cart.phtml?add=78791 (this is only a sample) >>>>>>>>>> reader 3.02 was working. Using the same doc (it´s still the same doc on the server) with the acrobat reader 4, following error appears from Oracle: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: Ora_Parse failed (ORA-00936: missing expression -- while processing OCI function OPARSE) in yyTable/2/db_oracle.inc on line 109 Warning: No tuples available on this cursor in yyTable/2/db_oracle.inc on line 128 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after reinstalling reader 3.02 everything is still working again. The result shows an articel of the database in the shopping basket. The same problem we got one year ago with reader 3.01. But there was no reply from adobe. After using reader 3.01 all was o.k.. Now we want to supply reader 4 to the user of this system, and the same problem comes up again. thanks to any reply, help and answers Wilhelm G. Jany - WJT jany@teleweb.at Internet: http://www.ipix.at/ __________________________________________________________________________________ Jason Belec wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > PROBLEM > > We want to use the same docs, by viewing with Acrobat Reader 4. Now we > > get the same problems like before (working on Reader 3.01). The problems > > appears as well on Mocrosoft or Netscape Internet Explorer. > > > > Thanks for any reply, > > > > Wilhelm G. Jany - WJT > > What are the problems? > > Jason Belec :)~ > Digital Workflows Specialist, > especially PDF > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> > __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 21:09:25-GMT,2395;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01588 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:09:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06297; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:05:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:04:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06198; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:04:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990923170138.00853100@bresnanlink.net> X-Sender: fosmire@bresnanlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:01:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] Printing rotated pages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On one of my printers, I cannot print any pages which have been rotated. Another printer has no hesitation in printing a PDF file which has a mix of portrait and landscape (rotated from portrait) pages. The first printer prints blank pages for the rotated ones. When the command to print "current page" is given for a rotated page, Acrobat comes up with an entirely uninformative message: "There has been a printer error." Using Acrobat 4. The misbehaving printer has a lot of memory (18 MB) on board, and the computer has a lot of memory plus disk swap space, so memory constraints would not seem to be a factor. Why this odd behavior? ============================== M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@bresnanlink.net http://www.sismich.com/msf.htm ============================== ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 21:21:14-GMT,2501;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01899 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:21:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07488; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:16:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:15:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07336; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:15:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] WebLinks in Acrobat 4 - Reply to Jason Belec Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:15:15 +0100 Message-ID: <003c01bf0608$bbcf6720$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37EA9090.6BA02676@teleweb.at> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > by using a web link like this (at an Articel Nr of a pdf > sparepart catalogue on > the web, matching an oracle Database) > >>>>>>>>>> > http://www.xyz.com/path1/pb/pb_cart.phtml?add=78791 > (this is only a > sample) > >>>>>>>>>> > reader 3.02 was working. Using the same doc (it´s still the > same doc on the > server) with the acrobat reader 4, following > error appears from Oracle: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Warning: Ora_Parse failed (ORA-00936: missing expression -- > while processing OCI > function OPARSE) in yyTable/2/db_oracle.inc on line 109 Surely this is nothing to do with Reader, which does not talk to Oracle in any way. It must be a programming error in an Oracle interface. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1999 22:37:41-GMT,3248;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03984 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:37:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14444; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:28:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:24:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14127; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:24:44 -0500 Message-ID: <37EAA640.CC54CFD8@teleweb.at> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:14:24 +0200 From: "Wilhelm G. JANY" Organization: WJT- Wien X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] WebLinks in Acrobat 4 - Reply to Jason Belec References: <003c01bf0608$bbcf6720$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Aandi, This weblink is surly sent to a web server (Oracle DB behind). As shown, this action is working with reader 3.02 (as well in Microsoftexplorer or netscape navigator). The same weblink action with the same docs, the same server, with reader 4 (as well in microsoft or netscape explorer) best reagrsd, wilhelm _____________________________ Aandi Inston wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > by using a web link like this (at an Articel Nr of a pdf > > sparepart catalogue on > > the web, matching an oracle Database) > > >>>>>>>>>> > > http://www.xyz.com/path1/pb/pb_cart.phtml?add=78791 > > (this is only a > > sample) > > >>>>>>>>>> > > reader 3.02 was working. Using the same doc (it´s still the > > same doc on the > > server) with the acrobat reader 4, following > > error appears from Oracle: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Warning: Ora_Parse failed (ORA-00936: missing expression -- > > while processing OCI > > function OPARSE) in yyTable/2/db_oracle.inc on line 109 > > Surely this is nothing to do with Reader, which does not talk > to Oracle in any way. It must be a programming error in an > Oracle interface. > > Aandi > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free "Create Adobe PDF" -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> > __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Looking for a job working with Acrobat/PDF; or have such a job to offer? -> <- Try the new 'PDF Jobs' service: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1999 13:41:40-GMT,2177;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23966 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:41:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11904; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:25:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:16:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11103; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:16:50 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Custom Page Size Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:19:53 -0400 x-sender: geoffm@mail.novainc.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Geoff Manning To: "PDFZone" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1273943519-276745@novainc.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I want to create an 8.5"x11" PDF when the actual Quark document is 7"x9". I can set the page WIDTH in the Quark Page Set-Up but I end up with a 8.5"x9" PDF. We are moving from paper proofs to pdf proofs with our client. There is relevant information that the client needs to see that hangs off the bottom of the Quark document and is visible when printed on paper but is cut off in postscript. Is there a way to set the page height as we can with the page width? ______________________ Geoff Manning Nova Marketing Production Dept. Quincy, MA 02169 617-770-0304 Ext. 26 ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Looking for a job working with Acrobat/PDF; or have such a job to offer? -> <- Try the new 'PDF Jobs' service: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1999 13:46:48-GMT,3828;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24082 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:46:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13121; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:38:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:35:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12843; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:35:52 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] WebLinks in Acrobat 4 - Reply to Jason Belec Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:35:43 +0100 Message-ID: <005b01bf0691$b3c63840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37EAA640.CC54CFD8@teleweb.at> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The problem is still not within Reader. To investigate this further I'd start by looking at the web server logs to compare the URL passed. A web link is just a link - the text of the URL is passed to the server for processing. Possibly the server is saying "link not found" in an unhelpful way. The logs may help. Aandi > This weblink is surly sent to a web server (Oracle DB > behind). As shown, this > action is working with reader 3.02 (as well in > Microsoftexplorer or netscape > navigator). The same weblink action with the same docs, the > same server, with > reader 4 (as well in microsoft or netscape explorer) > > > by using a web link like this (at an Articel Nr of a pdf > > > sparepart catalogue on > > > the web, matching an oracle Database) > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > http://www.xyz.com/path1/pb/pb_cart.phtml?add=78791 > > > (this is only a > > > sample) > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > reader 3.02 was working. Using the same doc (it´s still the > > > same doc on the > > > server) with the acrobat reader 4, following > > > error appears from Oracle: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Warning: Ora_Parse failed (ORA-00936: missing expression -- > > > while processing OCI > > > function OPARSE) in yyTable/2/db_oracle.inc on line 109 > > > > Surely this is nothing to do with Reader, which does not talk > > to Oracle in any way. It must be a programming error in an > > Oracle interface. > > > > Aandi > > > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > > <- Simplify the creation of PDF files on Macs with free > "Create Adobe PDF" -> > > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/CreateAdobePDF.html -> > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Looking for a job working with Acrobat/PDF; or have such a > job to offer? -> > <- Try the new 'PDF Jobs' service: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Looking for a job working with Acrobat/PDF; or have such a job to offer? -> <- Try the new 'PDF Jobs' service: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1999 14:31:02-GMT,2720;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25365 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:30:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17782; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:25:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:22:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17468; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393A81@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Custom Page Size Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:21:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Goeff, All you need to do is use a PPD that allows you to set the page height and width. Even the Distiller PPD allows this. Although it may say "Automatic" in the height field, this field is still editable. You will be constrained somewhat by the pasteboard (although Markzware's Pasteboard XT allows you to "extend" the size of the pasteboard). Certainly you have more leeway to the left and right if you wan to include comments to the client there. What you'll need to do is set a large bleed amount in Document tab in XPress' Print Dialog. This will allow items on the pasteboard to be in your PDF. Hope this helps... Todd Reid Quark, Inc. Is there a way to set the page height as we can with the page width? ______________________ Geoff Manning Nova Marketing Production Dept. Quincy, MA 02169 617-770-0304 Ext. 26 ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Looking for a job working with Acrobat/PDF; or have such a job to offer? -> <- Try the new 'PDF Jobs' service: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Looking for a job working with Acrobat/PDF; or have such a job to offer? -> <- Try the new 'PDF Jobs' service: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1999 15:59:44-GMT,2371;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27916 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:59:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25884; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:53:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:50:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25408; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:50:10 -0500 Message-ID: <37EB49B8.AC75998@lauterkranz.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:51:53 +0800 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Color Separation of preseparated PDFs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ HI to ALL I am looking for a method to send preseparated PDFs to my ImageSetter with customizable Screening angles etc. The Problem: I get preseparated PS-Files and distill them. So i have 4 Pages, 1 = CYAN, 2 is MAGENTA, 3 = YELLOW, 4 = BLACK or (if i have custom colors) 1 = BLACK, 2 = PANTONE XXX. I need to send this to my imagesetter with: Page 1 = CYAN angle, Page 2= Magenta ANgle and so on......... Up to now i am working with Crackerjack. But this means to change the settings for each page and send each page seperately. Is there any other method besides AGFA Apogee?????? Thanks Richard ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Looking for a job working with Acrobat/PDF; or have such a job to offer? -> <- Try the new 'PDF Jobs' service: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1999 18:54:56-GMT,2267;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02941 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:54:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09955; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:50:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:47:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09613; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:47:49 -0500 Message-ID: <19990924184844.1978.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:48:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jill Shindelman Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing rotated pages To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --- "M. Sean Fosmire" wrote: > On one of my printers, I cannot print any pages > which have been rotated. > Another printer has no hesitation in printing a PDF > file which has a mix of > portrait and landscape (rotated from portrait) > pages. > Sean - What manufacturer and model printer is being used in each case? My bet is that the problem is due to the failing printer not being configured correctly to do the landscape pages. This would certainly not be the first example of Acrobat producing different results on different vendors' printers. Jill Shindelman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Looking for a job working with Acrobat/PDF; or have such a job to offer? -> <- Try the new 'PDF Jobs' service: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1999 22:09:37-GMT,2805;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08342 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:09:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28487; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:56:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:55:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28373; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:55:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990924175247.007ff6a0@bresnanlink.net> X-Sender: fosmire@bresnanlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:52:47 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] Re: Printing rotated pages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is an Okipage 16n. How would the configuration be checked? The properties dialog has many tabs, including the Paper tab which includes "orientation", but that is only for the default, I would think. Programs are supposed to send the commands to override the default to print in landscape orientation when needed, which leads me to conclude that it is Acrobat rather than the printer configuration which is involved. >- --- "M. Sean Fosmire" wrote: >> On one of my printers, I cannot print any pages >> which have been rotated. >> Another printer has no hesitation in printing a PDF >> file which has a mix of >> portrait and landscape (rotated from portrait) >> pages. >> > > >Sean - > >What manufacturer and model printer is being used in >each case? My bet is that the problem is due to the >failing printer not being configured correctly to do >the landscape pages. This would certainly not be the >first example of Acrobat producing different results >on different vendors' printers. > >Jill Shindelman > ============================== M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@bresnanlink.net http://www.sismich.com/msf.htm ============================== ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1999 21:48:59-GMT,6142;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07737 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27195; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:43:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:41:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26951; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:41:24 -0500 Message-ID: <00eb01bf06d5$4daac0a0$fab38dcf@curtech.vrg.com> From: "Steve Panish" To: Subject: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:39:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E8_01BF06B3.C584F180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01BF06B3.C584F180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, When I convert MSWord 97 docs to PDF the images are being degraded to = unusable quality. I have all compression \ downsampling turned off. = This degradation occurs whether I use the Distiller or the PDFWriter. = In addition, the Distiller does not preserve the custom page size (the = PDFWriter lets the custom size be set from the print dialog box, works = OK). I have tried .bmp, TIFF, GIF and jpg images, all look good in = MSWord and print fine on printers, but look downsampled in the PDF and = print looking just as bad. Some other particulars: All images are in text boxes. Happens in large or small docs. For the Distiller, I have tried creating intermediate PS files from = various PS printer drivers as well as the Distiller printer driver and = have varied the DPI up to 2400. My conclusion is that for some reason the Adobe programs are still = downsampling. Any ideas how to resolve this? Thanks in advance! Steve Panish, Ph.D. email:scp@vrg.com CEO, Vision Research Graphics, Inc http://www.vrg.com 99A Madbury Rd. tel: = (603)868-2090 Durham, N.H. 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Hi All,
 
When I convert MSWord 97 docs to PDF the images are = being=20 degraded to unusable quality.  I have all compression \ = downsampling turned=20 off.  This degradation occurs whether I use the Distiller or the=20 PDFWriter.  In addition, the Distiller does not preserve the custom = page=20 size (the PDFWriter lets the custom size be set from the print dialog = box, works=20 OK).  I have tried .bmp, TIFF, GIF and jpg images, all look good in = MSWord=20 and print fine on printers, but look downsampled in the PDF and print = looking=20 just as bad.
 
Some other particulars:
 
All images are in text boxes.
Happens in large or small docs.
For the Distiller, I have tried creating = intermediate PS files=20 from various PS printer drivers  as well as the Distiller printer = driver=20 and have varied the DPI up to 2400.
 
My conclusion is that for some reason the Adobe = programs are=20 still downsampling.  Any ideas how to resolve this?
 
Thanks in advance!

Steve Panish,=20 Ph.D.           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           =20 email:scp@vrg.com
CEO, = Vision Research=20 Graphics, = Inc           http://www.vrg.com
99A Madbury=20 Rd.           &nbs= p;            = ;            =    =20 tel: (603)868-2090
Durham, N.H. USA=20 03824           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;  =20 fax:(603)868-1352
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01BF06B3.C584F180-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1999 22:35:35-GMT,3765;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09225 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:35:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31575; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:31:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:30:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA31417; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:29:59 -0500 Message-ID: <001601bf06dc$57bdede0$ec19fed0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:30:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF06A1.AA295500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF06A1.AA295500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you tried taking the graphics out of the text boxes? If so, is the = print quality any different? I seem to recall a problem - once - with a = graphic in a text box, may have been a fluky thing... SueG -----Subject: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs =20 ...When I convert MSWord 97 docs to PDF the images are being = degraded to unusable quality. =20 Some other particulars: All images are in text boxes... ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF06A1.AA295500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Have you tried taking the graphics = out of the=20 text boxes?  If so, is the print quality any different?  I = seem to=20 recall a problem - once - with a graphic in a text box, may have been a = fluky=20 thing...
SueG
-----Subject: [PDF] = image quality=20 and size problems from MSWord docs

...When I=20 convert MSWord 97 docs to PDF the images are being degraded to = unusable=20 quality. 
Some other particulars:
 All images are in = text=20 boxes...
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF06A1.AA295500-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1999 5:18:53-GMT,2412;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17774 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:18:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27811; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:13:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:10:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA27572; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:10:25 -0500 Message-ID: <37EC596E.4504F143@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:11:10 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Creating Multiple AutoIndexes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I need to attach multiple indexs to a pdf file on a CD (the indexes are in different subdirectories on the CD) automatically. When I use the autoindex facility in Acrobat (file ->document-info->open) I only seem to be able to attach 1 index. Does anyone know how I can set multiple indexes so that the user will not have to manually search for different indexes in the various subdirectories and attach them ? I read somewhere in the list archives that you can modify the acrosrch.ini file to add indexes. However I can't seem to find this file anywhere (does this still exist for Acrobat 4 ?). Also if this is possible, does it mean that I can set up Acrobat 4.0 to run from a CD and include this file so that the user will automatically have access to the indexes ? Any help would be appreciated. Jo Leong ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1999 8:28:53-GMT,2696;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21671 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 02:28:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06813; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 03:22:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Sep 1999 03:20:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06580; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 03:20:45 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating Multiple AutoIndexes Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:20:34 +0100 Message-ID: <008501bf072e$d74b7580$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37EC596E.4504F143@pacific.net.sg> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I need to attach multiple indexs to a pdf file on a CD (the > indexes are > in different subdirectories on the CD) automatically. When I use the > autoindex facility in Acrobat (file ->document-info->open) I only seem > to be able to attach 1 index. Does anyone know how I can set multiple > indexes so that the user will not have to manually search for > different > indexes in the various subdirectories and attach them ? That's all that autoindex does. There's a place in a PDF file to list just one index, so there's no tricking it. You could try opening one, and having an open action that moves to the next, but that is likely to be messy. Instead, I'd recommend visiting whether you actually need multiple indexes, given that you aren't allowing the user to distinguish; or - if you do - whether you should also build a single "master" index (the same data can be in more than one index). Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1999 10:41:37-GMT,3171;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24025 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 04:41:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14760; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 05:31:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Sep 1999 05:29:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14582; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 05:29:41 -0500 Message-ID: <37ECA3DA.43FB0D89@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 05:28:42 -0500 From: bobcatt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating Multiple AutoIndexes References: <008501bf072e$d74b7580$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi: Would the following process work? At DOS - copy C:\index1.xxx+index2.xxx+index3.xxx >>indexresult.xxx Aandi Inston wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I need to attach multiple indexs to a pdf file on a CD (the > > indexes are > > in different subdirectories on the CD) automatically. When I use the > > autoindex facility in Acrobat (file ->document-info->open) I only seem > > to be able to attach 1 index. Does anyone know how I can set multiple > > indexes so that the user will not have to manually search for > > different > > indexes in the various subdirectories and attach them ? > > That's all that autoindex does. There's a place in a PDF file to > list just one index, so there's no tricking it. > > You could try opening one, and having an open action that moves > to the next, but that is likely to be messy. > > Instead, I'd recommend visiting whether you actually need > multiple indexes, given that you aren't allowing the user > to distinguish; or - if you do - whether you should also > build a single "master" index (the same data can be in > more than one index). > > Aandi > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> > <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> > __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1999 10:54:19-GMT,2324;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24251 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 04:54:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16003; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 05:50:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Sep 1999 05:48:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15886; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 05:48:42 -0500 Message-ID: <37ECA8C9.C4D16867@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:49:45 +0200 From: "Lausseur.aalto" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating Multiple AutoIndexes References: <008501bf072e$d74b7580$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I remember messages about this same topic some months ago. Somebody suggested a clever solution for automating a multiple index session : - autoindex the main pdf document with index1 - create a dummy pdf document, that autoindexes index2 - create a form field (invisible) on main document, which automatically opens the dummy document when opening main document, and so makes index2 active - and so on for index3, 4 , ... all this index are active until closing Acrobat session Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant Aandi Inston a écrit : > That's all that autoindex does. There's a place in a PDF file to > list just one index, so there's no tricking it. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1999 11:16:32-GMT,2241;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24674 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 05:16:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17442; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:11:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:10:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17275; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:10:01 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating Multiple AutoIndexes Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:09:55 +0100 Message-ID: <008701bf0746$7fb90400$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37ECA3DA.43FB0D89@xtra.co.nz> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Aandi: > Would the following process work? > > At DOS - > copy C:\index1.xxx+index2.xxx+index3.xxx >>indexresult.xxx No, absolutely not. Remember that an index is a PDX file, a directory, and a whole collection of files with various purposes; all of these must be kept exactly as they are created. Pulling words quickly from a huge collection needs some pretty complex file structures, and the format of them is not only complicated, but secret! Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 26-Sep-1999 21:10:40-GMT,2728;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03623 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:10:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27080; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:53:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:45:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26378; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:45:44 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 10:36:22 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating Multiple AutoIndexes In-Reply-To: <37EC596E.4504F143@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In message <37EC596E.4504F143@pacific.net.sg>, jo leong wrote: >I need to attach multiple indexs to a pdf file on a CD (the indexes are >in different subdirectories on the CD) automatically. When I use the >autoindex facility in Acrobat (file ->document-info->open) I only seem >to be able to attach 1 index. Does anyone know how I can set multiple >indexes so that the user will not have to manually search for different >indexes in the various subdirectories and attach them ? You should check out our Multi-Index plug-in which allows multiple indexes to be attached to a single PDF. See our web site or contact me for further details. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 1:53:52-GMT,2038;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09212 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:53:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14016; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:32:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:28:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13664; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:28:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199909270128.UAA13655@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Relocating files message Date: Mon, 27 Sep 99 13:33:57 +1200 x-sender: craigl@mail.siren.co.nz x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Craig Lauridsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Can anyone advise me what Distiller 4 for Mac is doing when it states Relocating files. To distill a file may take a little as a second, yet the distilling process is followed by a message 'Relocating files' followed by 'Saving files', which may in total take anther 30 seconds. This message and the time delay did not appear under Distiller 3 and does not appear to happen under version 4 for PC. Craig Lauridsen Acumen Technical Design and Training ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 2:45:30-GMT,1810;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10277 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:45:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19216; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:37:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:34:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19032; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:34:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "HIWATASHI, HELIO (MED,ID TKY JP )" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] "Pattern too big" Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:39:13 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, Some PDF shows "Pattern too big" message. Just for info, we make the pdf from ps. (Distiller 4.0 and Acrobat 4.0) Has anyone been have the same experience? Thanks Helio ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 6:51:24-GMT,4309;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15439 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:51:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA02880; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:40:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:39:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02817; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:39:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199909270639.HAA05439@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 7:28:55 +0000 To: " pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separation of preseparated PDFs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ RE>[PDF] Color Separation of preseparated 27/9/99 Firstly why would you want to work with preseperated files. -------------------------------------- Date: 24/9/99 5:20 pm To: Stuart Slaney From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ HI to ALL I am looking for a method to send preseparated PDFs to my ImageSetter with customizable Screening angles etc. The Problem: I get preseparated PS-Files and distill them. So i have 4 Pages, 1 = CYAN, 2 is MAGENTA, 3 = YELLOW, 4 = BLACK or (if i have custom colors) 1 = BLACK, 2 = PANTONE XXX. I need to send this to my imagesetter with: Page 1 = CYAN angle, Page 2= Magenta ANgle and so on......... Up to now i am working with Crackerjack. But this means to change the settings for each page and send each page seperately. Is there any other method besides AGFA Apogee?????? Thanks Richard ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Looking for a job working with Acrobat/PDF; or have such a job to offer? -> <- Try the new 'PDF Jobs' service: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ [Message ID: -1273928872] [Internet header:] Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by barsac.ipl.co.uk (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21909 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 18:11:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25429; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:50:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:50:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25408; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:50:10 -0500 Message-ID: <37EB49B8.AC75998@lauterkranz.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:51:53 +0800 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Color Separation of preseparated PDFs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 7:32:22-GMT,2758;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA16263 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:32:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05749; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 02:20:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 02:17:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05549; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 02:17:48 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909270128.UAA13655@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:09:02 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Relocating files message Cc: Craig Lauridsen Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Craig, >From what I have noticed when using the watched folder method, Distiller 4 first saves to the freshly generatd file to the In folder, and then moves it to the Out folder (and deletes the PS file). The longer time to save can have something to do with your settings, if you specified to optimize. Optimizing does take its time. Optimizing is a new function in Acrobat 4; in Acrobat 3, you had to open the document in Exchange and save again. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Can anyone advise me what Distiller 4 for Mac is doing when it states >Relocating files. > >To distill a file may take a little as a second, yet the distilling >process is followed by a message 'Relocating files' followed by 'Saving >files', which may in total take anther 30 seconds. This message and the >time delay did not appear under Distiller 3 and does not appear to happen >under version 4 for PC. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 8:20:12-GMT,1975;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17226 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 02:20:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08973; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:10:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:08:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08896; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:08:44 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:36:44 +0100 From: "Ken Thomson" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separation of preseparated PDFs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA08892 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Instead of Agpogee use Scitex Brisque or the mac RIP PSM. theese will drive a dolev image setter. or on the brisque you can rip the files and then convert the ripped pdf's back into postscript with the angles embedded. Expensive but works very well. (and is faster than apogee) KEN ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 9:21:04-GMT,2431;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA18422 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:21:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12947; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:11:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:09:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12742; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:08:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Relocating files message Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:08:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bf08c7$e6f6a0a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199909270128.UAA13655@everglades.binc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Can anyone advise me what Distiller 4 for Mac is doing when it states > Relocating files. > > To distill a file may take a little as a second, yet the distilling > process is followed by a message 'Relocating files' followed > by 'Saving > files', which may in total take anther 30 seconds. This > message and the > time delay did not appear under Distiller 3 and does not > appear to happen under version 4 for PC. Distiller 4.x is probably doing one of the things that Distiller 3.x did not do. The most likely candidate is optimizing the file. This can be time consuming. Also, creating thumbnails or security settings. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 13:47:45-GMT,2080;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23719 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:47:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31628; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:40:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:38:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31459; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:38:29 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990927093519.00b8ec40@mail.icac.org> X-Sender: john@mail.icac.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:38:26 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Mulligan Subject: [PDF] New Page Numbers In-Reply-To: <199909262045.PAA26397@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a large number of PDF files created from different applications - mostly Word & Excel. I would like to assemble these PDFs into one large PDF (about 70 pages) & add page numbers to the top left for even-numbered pages & top right for odd-numbered pages. Is there a utility that will let me add page numbers to a document that has none, specifying font type & position? Thanks, John Mulligan john@icac.org ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 14:10:22-GMT,2510;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24233 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:09:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01058; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:01:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:00:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00856; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:00:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990927100536.0096f7c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:05:36 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs In-Reply-To: <00eb01bf06d5$4daac0a0$fab38dcf@curtech.vrg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My conclusion is that for some reason the Adobe programs are still downsampling. Any ideas how to resolve this? If you have an image in the PDF at a higher rez than it's being displayed at on screen, then yes, Acrobat (or any other app) will have to do some downsampling to display the image. Reader 3 seems simply to throw away pixels to accomplish this, where Reader 4 does a better job of smoothing the image. Zoom in on the image in even Reader 3 and you'll likely see that it's all there if you give Reader enough screen pixels to display it. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 5:56:28-GMT,3332;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14028 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 23:56:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA32279; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:48:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:44:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA32049; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:44:27 -0500 Message-ID: <37EF229C.C6E45F49@primary.net> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:54:05 -0700 From: rhoggard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Steven, In my experience, I use MSWord to create software user manuals. The screen shots always look poor in Acrobat unless I force a particular magnification. Since screen shots are usually made at 72 dpi, I must force a magnification of 133 or 134 % in Acrobat for a decent view. Once you find the magnification that works for you, (if the methodology is even relevant for your situation), this also means that all graphics in the source document need to be the same dpi. If you alter one, (re-sizing while still in source) it won't view correctly unless you force a different Acrobat magnification just for the page that it is displayed on. Of course this turns into a major hassle forcing different views from page to page, so its best to keep all graphics at the same dpi to begin with. Also you need to bear in mind that if Fit Width or Fit Visible happens to display a magnification that works on your monitor, it may not work on one of a different size or type. You have to force a percentage. What I do is install a Document Open of 133, then have all my links and bookmarks use the Inherit Zoom option or Fixed View to keep the same magnification. Hope this helps, but I am unsure of your exact situation so it may not. Also, this is what I have found that works for me and even I don't really like it that much, so there may be better alternatives that may come from the list subscribers. I don't have any suggestions on the custom paper sizing. Randy Hoggard Information Design Consultant Interim Technology Steve Panish. Ph. D. wrote: > Hi All, > > When I convert MSWord 97 docs to PDF the images are being degraded to = > unusable quality. > -snipped- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 15:17:26-GMT,2526;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26048 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:17:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06364; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:59:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:57:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06201; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:57:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990927093519.00b8ec40@mail.icac.org> References: <4.2.0.58.19990927093519.00b8ec40@mail.icac.org> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:27:35 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] New Page Numbers Cc: john@icac.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA06196 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9:38 AM -0400 9/27/99, John Mulligan wrote: >Is there a utility that will let me add page numbers to a document >that has none, specifying font type & position? > StampPDF from Digital Applications - Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 17:26:26-GMT,2762;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29868 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:26:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18510; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:11:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:08:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18267; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:08:55 -0500 From: "Thane Terrill" To: "Pdf@Lists. Pdfzone. Com" Subject: [PDF] Default Opening Sizes Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:11:11 -0400 Message-ID: <002301bf090b$4bd2a710$3700a8c0@bic.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm having some trouble understanding how to get a consistent appearance when the user opens my PDFs in their viewer. I'm putting together a series of books which I created in Word and printed each chapter to its own PDF file. I then put all the PDFs together into one large file and bookmarked the chapters. My problem is that the first screen comes up quite large in comparison to the other pages. All the pages are 8.5x11 inches and I have the open preference set to default. Even the first page can shift in size after the initial display. As far as I know, none of the individual chapters were set to open at anything other than "default." I'm using Acrobat 4.0 and I'm viewing using IE 5.0 with the Acrobat plug-in. I can specify an opening viewing of let's say 150%, but all the other pages don't seem to obey this setting. The problem is less when I don't view bookmarks, but does not entirely disappear. Seeing the pages contract and expand is a bit disconcerting. Any advice would be welcomed. ==Thane ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1999 18:55:39-GMT,4424;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02454 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:55:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27546; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:46:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:44:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27355; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:44:14 -0500 From: alfredc@softworkscc.com Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:38:31 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for September-26-99 [V2 # MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/223041237/223003969/223100773/ Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA27350 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dr. Panish, First question I have for you: What version of Acrobat are you using? Adobe released 3.0 at least 3 years ago. Then they released 2 subsequent maintenance releases: versions 3.01 and 3.02. If you have 3.01, you have a bug in Exchange and Distiller. A bug was introduced into 3.01 of Exchange that caused graphics to be garbled on screen. In addition, do you use a PCL printer? If your printer isn't a PostScript printer, when you print the pages with the graphics, they will come out distorted and unusable. This was also an issue with how Acrobat 3.01 (both the commercial package and the reader) handled anti-aliasing, which I think is the process of smoothing fonts and graphics to look good on a computer monitor. Double-check with a techie to verify this definition. Your solutions are these: 1) Upgrade to Acrobat 4.0. Installing the new software will fix this problem. Acrobat 4.0 handles anti-aliasing much better, and the printing bug isn't there. 2) Download these free patches from Adobe: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/902e.htm This link talks about the problem, titled "Graphics Print Blurry from Acrobat 3.01 Viewer to a PCL Printer." This page provides a link with a patch for this bug. Here's the link to that patch in case you can't wait: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/505e.htm Once you apply the patch, Acrobat Exchange will list its version as Acrobat 3.01 RA, which is equivalent to version 3.02. You can see this by going into Help>About Acrobat Exchange. Here's the patch for Acrobat Distiller 3.01: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/prodindex/acrobat/distupda te/acrdistiller.html This patch will upgrade 3.01 to 3.02. This upgrade isn't as critical as the first patch. 3) Print to a PostScript printer and don't bother with options 1 or 2.. The graphics still won't look good on screen, but they will print fine to a PostScript printer. If you have any questions, my number is at the end of this message. Alfred Cooper Softworks, Inc. 5845 Richmond Hwy., Suite 400 Alexandria, VA 22306 Phone: 703-317-8816 >When I convert MSWord 97 docs to PDF the images are being degraded to = >unusable quality. I have all compression \ downsampling turned off. = >This degradation occurs whether I use the Distiller or the PDFWriter. = >In addition, the Distiller does not preserve the custom page size (the = >PDFWriter lets the custom size be set from the print dialog box, works = >OK). I have tried .bmp, TIFF, GIF and jpg images, all look good in = >MSWord and print fine on printers, but look downsampled in the PDF and = >print looking just as bad. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 11:13:25-GMT,2115;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25246 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 05:13:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01186; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 05:57:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 05:52:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00805; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 05:52:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: "HIWATASHI, HELIO (MED,ID TKY JP )" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Default Bookmark font type Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:56:29 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I appreciate if someone could help me to change the default bookmark font. Does it look easy? (not for me....) Thanks in advance Helio > ---------- > From: HIWATASHI, HELIO (MED,ID TKY JP ) > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:39 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: "Pattern too big" > > Hi, > Some PDF shows "Pattern too big" message. > Just for info, we make the pdf from ps. (Distiller 4.0 and Acrobat 4.0) > Has anyone been have the same experience? > Thanks > > Helio > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 12:35:51-GMT,1830;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26932 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 06:35:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07725; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:26:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:24:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07611; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:24:50 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990928082204.013cc2e0@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:23:58 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Default Bookmark font type In-Reply-To: <199909281052.FAA00826@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Helio, The bookmark font cannot be changed, nor can the color of the bookmarks be selected. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 12:57:27-GMT,3107;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27416 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 06:57:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09482; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:49:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:47:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09358; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:47:40 -0500 Message-ID: <005401bf09af$c019b420$0200005a@cv961764> From: "Kellie Mattera" To: Subject: [PDF] Opening PDF's in Netscape SSL Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:48:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01BF098E.38D5B980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BF098E.38D5B980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are having problems opening PDF's in Netscape if we're in a secure = session. They open fine in a regular session. Anyone know what might = be causing this and what the solution is? We're using the latest = version of everything. Thanks, Kellie Mattera ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BF098E.38D5B980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We are having problems opening PDF's in = Netscape if=20 we're in a secure session.  They open fine in a regular = session. =20 Anyone know what might be causing this and what the solution is?  = We're=20 using the latest version of everything.
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BF098E.38D5B980-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 13:19:26-GMT,2249;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27855 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:19:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11480; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:13:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:11:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11287; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:11:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: digital-devil-info@199.231.128.3 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909281052.FAA00826@everglades.binc.net> References: <199909281052.FAA00826@everglades.binc.net> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:13:35 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marji McNeely Subject: [PDF] PDF navigation access Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Greetings, This is my post to this list. I have Arcobat 4.0 (Mac). When I create a PDF for the web IE 4.5 doen't allow complete access the the navigation buttons at the bottom of the window. I don not have any problems with Netscape. I have seen this on both Mac & PC. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. All the Best, Marji McNeely *************** Marji McNeely Digital-Devil - - - - - - - - - - - - (813) 760-7744 http://www.digital-devil.com mailto:info@digital-devil.com Virtual Reality photography and Interactive Graphics for the Internet and Multi-media ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 14:21:18-GMT,2443;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29277 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:21:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16305; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:06:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:04:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16070; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:04:13 -0500 From: Franzine@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:03:54 EDT Subject: [PDF] PDF softproofing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm confused by all the articles I've been reading about the effectiveness of using profiles with PDF files. Does color mangement really work with Acrobat? I can't find any information on Adobe's site regarding this matter. and . . . More importantly, what I would really like to do is when I receive a PDF file I would like to be able to softproof it by applying an output profile to the document. Is this possible without putting my document through a RIP? Perhaps there is a plug-in to do this? Apply an output profile to the PDF after it has been generated? Because I don't have a RIP, and I will be sending the job somewhere else to be printed, and I would like to be able to sign off on a job remotely. I receive the digest version of this forum and it seems that I don't always get every entry, if you do make a response, could you also include franzine@aol.com as a carbon copy. THANK YOU !!!! ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 14:57:29-GMT,1979;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00259 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:57:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20320; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:50:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:49:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20181; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:49:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening PDF's in Netscape SSL In-Reply-To: <005401bf09af$c019b420$0200005a@cv961764> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We are having problems opening PDF's in Netscape if we're in a secure > session. They open fine in a regular session. Anyone know what might > be causing this and what the solution is? We're using the latest > version of everything. The following might help: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/16672.htm although solutions #2 and #4 won't. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 16:19:04-GMT,1893;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02849 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:18:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27174; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:03:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:00:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26815; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:00:31 -0500 From: "Nancy Bromfield" To: Subject: [PDF] Exporting *.PPT-colors disappear Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:57:29 -0600 Message-ID: <004501bf09ca$2ba8f4c0$874e8cd1@u9jr.vanguard.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ When I export a *.ppt file, entire blocks of text disappear. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 16:39:39-GMT,2585;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03452 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:39:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30159; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:31:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:30:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29981; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:30:10 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990928123546.007b4980@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:35:46 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting *.PPT-colors disappear In-Reply-To: <004501bf09ca$2ba8f4c0$874e8cd1@u9jr.vanguard.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Export how? Which version of PPT? What font is the text in? So many questions ... At 09:57 AM 9/28/99 -0600, you wrote: > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >When I export a *.ppt file, entire blocks of text disappear. > >________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> ><- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> >__________________________________________________________________ > > > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 16:48:31-GMT,1879;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03661 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:48:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30867; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:37:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:36:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30715; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:36:27 -0500 Message-ID: <37F0EF71.E36193E8@scenicsoft.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:40:17 -0700 From: sbailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening PDF's in Netscape SSL References: <005401bf09af$c019b420$0200005a@cv961764> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kellie, You may want to take a look at this document from Adobe's Technical Solutions database: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/16672.htm It addresses the issue you are describing. Regards, Samantha ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 17:01:53-GMT,2575;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04028 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:01:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32394; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:55:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:54:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32263; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:54:20 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990928094903.00af9cb0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:53:18 -0700 To: "Nancy Bromfield" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting *.PPT-colors disappear Cc: In-Reply-To: <004501bf09ca$2ba8f4c0$874e8cd1@u9jr.vanguard.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9/28/99 08:57 AM , Nancy Bromfield wrote: >When I export a *.ppt file, entire blocks of text disappear. Nancy, We can probably assume that by "export a *.ppt" you are actually referring to somehow creating a PDF file from a Microsoft PowerPoint presentation and that you are having problems associated with missing text. But you give us precious little to go on in terms of any specifics such as Windows/Mac, PDFWriter/PostScript=>Distiller, font types, or anything else. There is no known "general" problem with use of Microsoft PowerPoint with Acrobat. Please provide some specifics. - Dov ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 17:02:25-GMT,2817;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04032 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:02:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31988; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:51:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:49:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31816; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:49:43 -0500 Message-ID: <018101bf09d1$903265a0$0200005a@cv961764> From: "Kellie Mattera" To: References: <37F0EF71.E36193E8@scenicsoft.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening PDF's in Netscape SSL Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:50:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the help. I've taken a look at the solution they describe, but am still not sure why we're having the problem since we're using Netscape 4.61. Oh well... thanks anyway. Kellie ----- Original Message ----- From: sbailey To: Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening PDF's in Netscape SSL > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Kellie, > > You may want to take a look at this document from Adobe's Technical > Solutions database: > http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/16672.htm > > It addresses the issue you are describing. > > Regards, > Samantha > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> > <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> > __________________________________________________________________ > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 17:40:03-GMT,2394;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05115 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:39:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02406; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:22:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:19:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02020; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:19:54 -0500 From: "Nancy Bromfield" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting *.PPT-colors disappear Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:16:56 -0600 Message-ID: <004801bf09d5$456e3e00$874e8cd1@u9jr.vanguard.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990928123546.007b4980@pop.iglou.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I meant to save my message as a draft before sending it to the list. I'm sorry. Here are the specifics: I have a schematic diagram in color in PowerPoint. There is some colored text as well. When I select File>Print and click Print to File using AdobePSDefaultPostScriptPrinter, sometimes the text disappears, and sometimes the color in the diagram comes in black & white (with the text). When I select File>Print and click Print to File using AdobePSGenericPostScriptPrinter, the same thing happens. I downloaded the printer drivers from the Adobe website. Any suggestions? ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 17:52:46-GMT,3128;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05502 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:52:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04453; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:46:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:44:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04306; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:44:44 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990928104021.00a8fa40@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:43:50 -0700 To: "Nancy Bromfield" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting *.PPT-colors disappear Cc: In-Reply-To: <004801bf09d5$456e3e00$874e8cd1@u9jr.vanguard.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990928123546.007b4980@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9/28/99 10:16 AM , Nancy Bromfield wrote: >I meant to save my message as a draft before sending it to the list. I'm >sorry. >Here are the specifics: >I have a schematic diagram in color in PowerPoint. There is some colored >text as well. When I select File>Print and click Print to File using >AdobePSDefaultPostScriptPrinter, sometimes the text disappears, and >sometimes the color in the diagram comes in black & white (with the text). >When I select File>Print and click Print to File using >AdobePSGenericPostScriptPrinter, the same thing happens. I downloaded the >printer drivers from the Adobe website. >Any suggestions? Nancy, PostScript is a VERY device-dependent medium. If you want to produce PDF files from PostScript, you should use install the driver (i.e., create an AdobePS printer instance) that uses the Acrobat PPD file (in the Distiller XTRAS directory). Similarly, if you are actually printing, you need to setup the driver using the correct PPD file for your particular printer. Again, you don't say what OS you are under, but there are very device specific settings which you must set properly for proper PDF creation and/or printing. - Dov ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 18:00:32-GMT,3742;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05705 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:00:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05196; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:53:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:51:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04995; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:51:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990928135724.009594d0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:57:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting *.PPT-colors disappear In-Reply-To: <004801bf09d5$456e3e00$874e8cd1@u9jr.vanguard.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990928123546.007b4980@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ To start, click the B/W View button on one of the standard PPT toolbars. I forget which it is. That'll show you what PPT plans to do with the objects on your page when you print to B/W. You can right click any object or group that looks like it'll be a problem, pick Black And White from the popup and get a list of alternate b/w treatments to choose from. PowerPoint on Windows sometimes doesn't quite get the message that a given printer is not b/w so it may be choosing this option by default - check to see that the B/W and/or Pure B/W options in the print dialog aren't checkmarked when you print. ISTR hearing that it always messes this up on the Mac, so you have to choose the specific options you want each time you print. At 11:16 AM 9/28/99 -0600, you wrote: > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >I meant to save my message as a draft before sending it to the list. I'm >sorry. >Here are the specifics: >I have a schematic diagram in color in PowerPoint. There is some colored >text as well. When I select File>Print and click Print to File using >AdobePSDefaultPostScriptPrinter, sometimes the text disappears, and >sometimes the color in the diagram comes in black & white (with the text). >When I select File>Print and click Print to File using >AdobePSGenericPostScriptPrinter, the same thing happens. I downloaded the >printer drivers from the Adobe website. >Any suggestions? > > > >________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> ><- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> >__________________________________________________________________ > > > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 19:54:58-GMT,1945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08960 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:54:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07032; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:45:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:42:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06717; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:42:27 -0500 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567FA.006C569A.00@smtpmta.vapower.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:41:53 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Find vs. Search Discrepancy - Summary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I reported here last week that Find and Search results do not always agree. Adobe Acrobat QA has confirmed that there is a bug -- associated with searching for numerals -- in that Search may not reveal all occurrences of a search term. This, even though the Find function does find all occurrences. Whether the bug affects alpha characters has not been established. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 20:04:43-GMT,2579;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09231 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07911; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:55:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:53:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07631; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:53:00 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting *.PPT-colors disappear Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:52:50 +0100 Message-ID: <004b01bf09eb$0c5c3fc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004801bf09d5$456e3e00$874e8cd1@u9jr.vanguard.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a schematic diagram in color in PowerPoint. There is > some colored > text as well. When I select File>Print and click Print to File using > AdobePSDefaultPostScriptPrinter, sometimes the text disappears, and > sometimes the color in the diagram comes in black & white > (with the text). > When I select File>Print and click Print to File using > AdobePSGenericPostScriptPrinter, the same thing happens. I > downloaded the printer drivers from the Adobe website. So you mean the text is missing from the PDF file when that PostScript file is distilled? I would start by using the Distiller driver rather than the generic default driver. If that doesn't fix it - is it missing on screen in Reader, or only when printed from Reader? Which version of Acrobat? Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 21:26:36-GMT,2011;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11580 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:26:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15683; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:13:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:00:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14320; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:00:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393AA2@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] 2-byte font embedding Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:59:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone have experience with Acrobat 4 and trying to embed TrueType 2-byte fonts (specifically, Japanese, Osaka)? Distiller gives me a font substitution error, saying that it can't locate the 2-byte font, and therefore, it can't be embedded. I made sure that they were in the postscript stream when I created the .ps for distilling. Any ideas? Regards, Todd Reid Quark, Inc. Quality Assurance Core Technologies 303.894.8888 treid@quark.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 21:28:03-GMT,1817;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11603 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16058; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:18:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:07:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15060; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:07:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199909282107.QAA15046@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:11:31 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] Bookmark question In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990927100536.0096f7c0@pop.iglou.com> References: <00eb01bf06d5$4daac0a0$fab38dcf@curtech.vrg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible to put subscripts into your bookmark titles when creating them in Acrobat 4? ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 21:49:34-GMT,2162;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12194 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:49:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17234; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:30:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:19:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16195; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:19:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: Donna Russell To: "'PDF Mail List'" Subject: [PDF] "% [ Warning: Maximum number of named destinations reached. Ignor ing future named destinations ] % Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:19:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello All- This is my first posting to this mail list. I'm so glad it's available. Anyway, I've been trying to distill a huge book file and keep coming up with the following message: "% [ Warning: Maximum number of named destinations reached. Ignoring future named destinations ] % Is there a workaround for this? I'm using Windows NT, FrameMaker 5.5.6, Acrobat Distiller 3.02, and Acrobat Exchange 4.0. I'm trying to create a PDF for a 300 page user guide. Thanks for your help, Donna ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 22:15:21-GMT,2338;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12959 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:15:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21105; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:10:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:07:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20766; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:07:04 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] "% [ Warning: Maximum number of named destinations reached. Ignoring future named destinations ] % Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:06:57 +0100 Message-ID: <004f01bf09fd$c8b2cc40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Anyway, I've been trying to distill a huge book file and keep > coming up with > the following message: > > "% [ Warning: Maximum number of named destinations reached. > Ignoring future > named destinations ] % You can eliminate this by setting "3.0 compatible" in Distiller. Acrobat 2.1 had a limit on the number of links you could generate. Later versions removed that, but if you set "2.1 compatible" in Distiller it must honour the old limit. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 22:15:49-GMT,2357;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12986 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:15:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21236; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:11:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:09:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20944; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:08:59 -0500 Message-ID: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E501171DA9@MV_EXCHANGE_2> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PRINT fields in Word 2000 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:08:35 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We use PRINT fields in Word to create PDFMARK commands. In moving from Word 95 to Word 97, I discovered I had to set the compatibility option "Use printer metrics to lay out document" to make Word and the drivers generate the coordinates of the bounding rectangles properly. I have not been able to find any combination of parameters that will persuade Word 2000 to generate them correctly. I have even tried setting Word 95 Compatibilty, but to no avail. The dimensions of the rectangle are usually correct, but the rectangle always winds up in the upper left corner. Evidently the coordinates in the matrix are not being properly transformed to reflect the group name Cell, Row or para. TIA for your help. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 22:20:38-GMT,2618;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13134 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:20:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21692; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:15:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:12:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21392; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:12:24 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:07:00 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] "% [ Warning: Maximum number of named destinations reached. Ignor ing future named destinations ] % Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Donna, this is a known issue with Distiller 3. Switch to Distiller 4 which has a higher number of named destinations available. OR deactivate the automatic named destination creation in Frame (you should have this option in the printer driver window, "generate PostScript" options. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Anyway, I've been trying to distill a huge book file and keep coming up with >the following message: > >"% [ Warning: Maximum number of named destinations reached. Ignoring future >named destinations ] % > >Is there a workaround for this? I'm using Windows NT, FrameMaker 5.5.6, >Acrobat Distiller 3.02, and Acrobat Exchange 4.0. I'm trying to create a PDF >for a 300 page user guide. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 23:03:05-GMT,2696;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14254 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:03:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26291; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:57:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:54:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25904; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:54:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990928190023.008f8990@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:00:23 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting *.PPT-colors disappear In-Reply-To: <004b01bf09eb$0c5c3fc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <004801bf09d5$456e3e00$874e8cd1@u9jr.vanguard.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I think it's down to PPT's habits when it finds itself talking to a b/w printer. It automatically sets its B/W print mode on, which means, among other things, that it converts backgrounds to white, white text to black and so forth; basically, tries to make an attractive b/w printout of something that's usually formatted for other media. In some circumstances that can mean that you get black text on black backgrounds or that sort of thing. Ooops. >So you mean the text is missing from the PDF file when that >PostScript file is distilled? I would start by using the >Distiller driver rather than the generic default driver. >If that doesn't fix it - is it missing on screen in Reader, >or only when printed from Reader? Which version of Acrobat? > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 23:18:54-GMT,2440;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14688 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:18:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28366; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:12:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:09:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27819; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:09:32 -0500 Message-ID: <37F149F2.692F28CA@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:06:26 -0500 From: bobcatt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Scanning Pages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ OPSYS: Win950a Plus APPLICATION: Adobe Acrobat Exchange VERSION: 3.0 SCANNER: Ricoh IS-420 (wonderful machine) DRIVER: ISIS - is420 PIXDFLT: 51.202 RICOH420: 1.145.13 MEMORY: 96mb HDDs: 30gb FONTS: less than 650 truetypes Problem: When scanning double sided page documents, where the page count exceeds 50 pages, Adobe Acrobat Exchange v3.0 simple quites scanning and thus the entire document isn't saved and the work done is lost. Is there a maximum number of pages that is allowed or to which one is limited to scan ? If however, I scan less than 50 double sided pages and save the result to a file name, I can assemble through 'import pages' a seemingly unlikited size final document (with or without thumbnails). Many thanks. bob ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 23:44:03-GMT,3135;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15863 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:44:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31507; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:39:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:36:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31202; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:36:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Scanning Pages Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:41:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ FIRST: Please note that this question is best directed at the dedicated Capture listserv, NOT the PDF Listserv.... >Problem: >When scanning double sided page documents, where the page count exceeds >50 pages, Adobe Acrobat Exchange v3.0 simple quites scanning and thus >the entire document isn't saved and the work done is lost. Acrobat 3.0 is NOT intended as a scanner front-end. It's ability to manage a scanner driver is, I think the man said, for "occasional use only". >Is there a maximum number of pages that is allowed or to which one is >limited to scan ? In one batch, perhaps. I wouldn't know, since I don't beat this part of the program to death. >If however, I scan less than 50 double sided pages and save the result >to a file name, I can assemble through 'import pages' a seemingly >unlikited size final document (with or without thumbnails). Actually, I believe the native Import Pages command can handle a max of 50 (or thereabouts) files at a time. ARTSImport can extend this capability to a whole directory of files, but it's use should be restricted to CCITT-encoded images (like those you make with your IS-420, or with any reasonably serious document imaging scanner) for file-size reasons. Hint: ARTSimport will run against multi-page CCITT G4 TIFF files too. You should scan with software other than Exchange (surely the Ricoh came with PixView, or some such?), then deal with PDF conversion _after_ your image files are all nicely QC'ed. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1999 23:46:45-GMT,2221;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15952 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:46:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31881; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:42:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:39:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31516; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:39:23 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393AA2@denver.quark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:39:27 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: K Hindall Subject: Re: [PDF] 2-byte font embedding Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Does anyone have experience with Acrobat 4 and trying to embed TrueType >2-byte fonts (specifically, Japanese, Osaka)? Distiller gives me a font >substitution error, saying that it can't locate the 2-byte font, and >therefore, it can't be embedded. I made sure that they were in the >postscript stream when I created the .ps for distilling. If you're on a Mac (I am), you can stop trying. TrueType double-byte fonts only embed in the Windows version of Acrobat 4. --K Hindall kkh1@occidens.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 3:50:11-GMT,3873;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21630 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:50:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21907; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:40:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:35:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21563; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:35:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:35:03 +1000 From: "Nader Antoun" To: Subject: [PDF] 2-byte Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id WAA21558 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 29/09 10:39 AM Received: 29/09 10:21 AM From: K Hindall, kkh1@occidens.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Does anyone have experience with Acrobat 4 and trying to embed TrueType >2-byte fonts (specifically, Japanese, Osaka)? Distiller gives me a font >substitution error, saying that it can't locate the 2-byte font, and >therefore, it can't be embedded. I made sure that they were in the >postscript stream when I created the .ps for distilling. If you're on a Mac (I am), you can stop trying. TrueType double-byte fonts only embed in the Windows version of Acrobat 4. --K Hindall kkh1@occidens.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have some experience in this area. Firstly i use a Mac with system 8.1 for all my language processing. Installed on it are all the standard language systems and Nisus Writer 5.1.1 (www.nisus.com), for Japanese type setting. I commend/print the page/s and from the pop-up window choose: destination: file in the 'save as file' sub menu: choose level 2 and 3, and in the 'font inclusion' menu choose all. Hit print. A Postscript file is created. I then run Acrobat Distiller 4.0, with 'screen optimized' settings that include embed all fonts as well as subsets. I also have the settings set to create the PDF file to version 3.0 A PDF file is created. On close inspection of the Japanese characters (zoom right in there), they look a little bitmapped, but it's quite close to the real thing at this stage. I must admit that this stuff, all language conversion to PDF, is very distressing at times when deadlines are set. And some times there is no rhyme nor reason why it works this way or that. But i have experimented a lot. For instance, try sending to a non-postscript printer when creating a postscript file, really. If further information/ideas are needed, please don't hesitate to reply to my e-mail address. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 4:48:29-GMT,2881;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22889 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:48:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26425; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:39:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:36:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26213; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:36:04 -0500 Message-ID: <37F26A19.FA75A881@lauterkranz.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:35:55 -0700 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separation of preseparated PDFs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is not the problem Because if i want to put different angles into various jobs i can initialize different spooling-queues with the angle settings i like. But all this means to splitt the preseparated PDFs into single printjobs. With Agfa Apogee i can place the preseparated job into an inposition signature and .... thats it. But for this special job i do not want to invest in Apogee! Richard Ken Thomson wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Instead of Agpogee use Scitex Brisque or the mac RIP PSM. theese will drive a dolev image setter. or on the brisque you can rip the files and then convert the ripped pdf's back into postscript with the angles embedded. > > Expensive but works very well. (and is faster than apogee) > > KEN > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> > <- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> > __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 4:48:30-GMT,2672;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22893 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:48:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26014; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:33:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:30:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25729; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:30:21 -0500 Message-ID: <37F268C2.B1F29CB2@lauterkranz.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:30:10 -0700 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Separation of preseparated PDFs References: <199909270639.HAA05439@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ OK. I am aware of the nonsense working with preseparated files. But i need to work with this files in case of getting PS out of a newspaper-system that can not export composit PS. Stuart Slaney wrote: > Firstly why would you want to work with preseperated files. > > The Problem Was: > HI to ALL > > I am looking for a method to send preseparated PDFs to my ImageSetter with > customizable Screening angles etc. > > The Problem: > I get preseparated PS-Files and distill them. > So i have 4 Pages, 1 = CYAN, 2 is MAGENTA, 3 = YELLOW, 4 = BLACK > or (if i have custom colors) 1 = BLACK, 2 = PANTONE XXX. > > I need to send this to my imagesetter with: > Page 1 = CYAN angle, Page 2= Magenta ANgle and so on......... > > Up to now i am working with Crackerjack. > But this means to change the settings for each page and send each page > seperately. > > Is there any other method besides AGFA Apogee?????? > > Thanks Richard ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 12:32:40-GMT,7410;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01928 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:32:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA26309; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:32:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:28:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25818; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:28:14 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bf0a8b$578b44a0$6464a8c0@dirk> From: "dirk pauwels" To: "wilfried Helsen" , "Werner Thys van den Audenaerde" , , "Tine Vos" , , , "Liesje Boermans" , , "Geert Marien" , "Geerdt Magiels" , "Erik Depuydt" , "Eric Van Tichel" , "Els Scheerlinck" , , "Dominique Berrier" , , "De Wrikker" , "Bart Schepers" Subject: [PDFdev] kill Pretty Park !!! Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:00:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF0A9C.187E4E90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF0A9C.187E4E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beste slachtoffers, Zoals gemerkt is er vanaf mijn systeem een worm virus vertrokken naar = alle leden van mijn adresboek. Indien je niet op de attachment geklikt hebt, en dus de .exe file niet = hebt gestart is er niets aan de hand. Verwijder dan gewoon de mailmessage. Indien je dit wel gedaan hebt, is je computer geinfecteerd, en heb je = zelf het virus verspreid naar de leden van je adresboekclub. In het laatste geval: - forward deze mail naar alle leden van je adresboek - verwijder het virus volgens deze procedure: Beschrijving van het virus: When executed, this vandal may display the 3D pipe screen saver. It = drops a file named FILES32.VXD into the Windows\System directory, and = configures the Windows registry to execute this file every time a = program file is run. The worm tries to send messages with an attached = copy of itself to addresses listed in the Windows Address Book. These = messages have the title: C:\CoolProgs\Pretty Park.exe. Unlike Melissa, = it sends itself every 30 seconds and not once.=20 Voer strikt de volgende handelingen uit om van het beest verlost te = geraken:=20 1. Click on the Start button, select Run. Type in "regedit" and press = Enter. This will run the registry editor. Browse to the following key:=20 HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\open\command\=20 Delete "files32.vxd " from the string value. (verwijder de key volledig) 2. Restart the computer.=20 3. Use Windows' Find to locate the file "files32.vxd", right-click it = and select Delete. (vooralleer het registry is aangepast zal de file = gelocked blijven.) Nogmaals mijn excuses, dat ik mij daar na al die jaren nog aan laat vangen ... Groeten, Dirk Pauwels Grafisch Vormgever Kenniscentrum Productiedesign VDAB Productontwikkeling dpauwels@skynet.be dpauwels@vdab.be www.vdab.be tel ++32 (0)14 44 51 99 fax ++32 (0)14 44 51 81=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF0A9C.187E4E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Beste slachtoffers,
 
Zoals gemerkt is er vanaf mijn systeem een worm = virus=20 vertrokken naar alle leden van mijn adresboek.
Indien je niet op de attachment geklikt hebt, en dus = de .exe=20 file niet hebt gestart is er niets aan de hand.
Verwijder dan gewoon de mailmessage.
 
Indien je dit wel gedaan hebt, is je computer = geinfecteerd, en=20 heb je zelf het virus verspreid naar de leden van je = adresboekclub.
 
In het laatste geval:
- forward deze mail naar alle leden van je=20 adresboek
- verwijder het virus volgens deze = procedure:
 

Beschrijving van het virus:

When executed, this vandal may display the 3D pipe screen saver. It = drops a=20 file named FILES32.VXD into the Windows\System directory, and = configures=20 the Windows registry to execute this file every time a program file is = run. The=20 worm tries to send messages with an attached copy of itself to addresses = listed=20 in the Windows Address Book. These messages have the title:=20 C:\CoolProgs\Pretty Park.exe. Unlike Melissa, it sends itself = every 30=20 seconds and not once.=20

Voer strikt de volgende handelingen uit om van het beest verlost te = geraken:=20

1. Click on the Start button, select Run. Type in "regedit" and press = Enter.=20 This will run the registry editor. Browse to the following key:=20
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\open\command\
Delete = "files32.vxd " from=20 the string value. (verwijder de key volledig)

2. Restart the computer.=20

3. Use Windows' Find to locate the file "files32.vxd", right-click it = and=20 select Delete. (vooralleer het registry is aangepast zal de file = gelocked=20 blijven.)

Nogmaals mijn excuses,
dat ik mij daar na al die jaren nog aan = laat vangen=20 ...

Groeten,

Dirk Pauwels
Grafisch Vormgever

Kenniscentrum Productiedesign
VDAB Productontwikkeling
dpauwels@skynet.be
dpauwels@vdab.be
www.vdab.be
tel ++32 (0)14 44 51 = 99
fax ++32=20 (0)14 44 51 81 

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF0A9C.187E4E90-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Shlomo Perets: Conversion of FrameMaker 5.5.x Cross-File links to PDF -> <- Download tips in PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MicroType.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 12:42:23-GMT,7414;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02095 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:42:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26478; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:34:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:28:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25791; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:28:11 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bf0a8b$578b44a0$6464a8c0@dirk> From: "dirk pauwels" To: "wilfried Helsen" , "Werner Thys van den Audenaerde" , , "Tine Vos" , , , "Liesje Boermans" , , "Geert Marien" , "Geerdt Magiels" , "Erik Depuydt" , "Eric Van Tichel" , "Els Scheerlinck" , , "Dominique Berrier" , , "De Wrikker" , "Bart Schepers" Subject: [PDF] kill Pretty Park !!! Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:00:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF0A9C.187E4E90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF0A9C.187E4E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beste slachtoffers, Zoals gemerkt is er vanaf mijn systeem een worm virus vertrokken naar = alle leden van mijn adresboek. Indien je niet op de attachment geklikt hebt, en dus de .exe file niet = hebt gestart is er niets aan de hand. Verwijder dan gewoon de mailmessage. Indien je dit wel gedaan hebt, is je computer geinfecteerd, en heb je = zelf het virus verspreid naar de leden van je adresboekclub. In het laatste geval: - forward deze mail naar alle leden van je adresboek - verwijder het virus volgens deze procedure: Beschrijving van het virus: When executed, this vandal may display the 3D pipe screen saver. It = drops a file named FILES32.VXD into the Windows\System directory, and = configures the Windows registry to execute this file every time a = program file is run. The worm tries to send messages with an attached = copy of itself to addresses listed in the Windows Address Book. These = messages have the title: C:\CoolProgs\Pretty Park.exe. Unlike Melissa, = it sends itself every 30 seconds and not once.=20 Voer strikt de volgende handelingen uit om van het beest verlost te = geraken:=20 1. Click on the Start button, select Run. Type in "regedit" and press = Enter. This will run the registry editor. Browse to the following key:=20 HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\open\command\=20 Delete "files32.vxd " from the string value. (verwijder de key volledig) 2. Restart the computer.=20 3. Use Windows' Find to locate the file "files32.vxd", right-click it = and select Delete. (vooralleer het registry is aangepast zal de file = gelocked blijven.) Nogmaals mijn excuses, dat ik mij daar na al die jaren nog aan laat vangen ... Groeten, Dirk Pauwels Grafisch Vormgever Kenniscentrum Productiedesign VDAB Productontwikkeling dpauwels@skynet.be dpauwels@vdab.be www.vdab.be tel ++32 (0)14 44 51 99 fax ++32 (0)14 44 51 81=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF0A9C.187E4E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Beste slachtoffers,
 
Zoals gemerkt is er vanaf mijn systeem een worm = virus=20 vertrokken naar alle leden van mijn adresboek.
Indien je niet op de attachment geklikt hebt, en dus = de .exe=20 file niet hebt gestart is er niets aan de hand.
Verwijder dan gewoon de mailmessage.
 
Indien je dit wel gedaan hebt, is je computer = geinfecteerd, en=20 heb je zelf het virus verspreid naar de leden van je = adresboekclub.
 
In het laatste geval:
- forward deze mail naar alle leden van je=20 adresboek
- verwijder het virus volgens deze = procedure:
 

Beschrijving van het virus:

When executed, this vandal may display the 3D pipe screen saver. It = drops a=20 file named FILES32.VXD into the Windows\System directory, and = configures=20 the Windows registry to execute this file every time a program file is = run. The=20 worm tries to send messages with an attached copy of itself to addresses = listed=20 in the Windows Address Book. These messages have the title:=20 C:\CoolProgs\Pretty Park.exe. Unlike Melissa, it sends itself = every 30=20 seconds and not once.=20

Voer strikt de volgende handelingen uit om van het beest verlost te = geraken:=20

1. Click on the Start button, select Run. Type in "regedit" and press = Enter.=20 This will run the registry editor. Browse to the following key:=20
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\open\command\
Delete = "files32.vxd " from=20 the string value. (verwijder de key volledig)

2. Restart the computer.=20

3. Use Windows' Find to locate the file "files32.vxd", right-click it = and=20 select Delete. (vooralleer het registry is aangepast zal de file = gelocked=20 blijven.)

Nogmaals mijn excuses,
dat ik mij daar na al die jaren nog aan = laat vangen=20 ...

Groeten,

Dirk Pauwels
Grafisch Vormgever

Kenniscentrum Productiedesign
VDAB Productontwikkeling
dpauwels@skynet.be
dpauwels@vdab.be
www.vdab.be
tel ++32 (0)14 44 51 = 99
fax ++32=20 (0)14 44 51 81 

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF0A9C.187E4E90-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 12:52:29-GMT,3198;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02276 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:52:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA28394; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:52:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:48:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27783; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:48:01 -0500 Message-ID: <004601bf0a8e$26a5b110$6464a8c0@dirk> From: "dirk pauwels" To: , Subject: [PDFdev] 1000 x sorry / Pretty Park Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:20:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF0A9E.E9430FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF0A9E.E9430FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear list members, I might have sent both an attached virus, and later on a dutch = explanation on how to get rid of it. ... |-(( Sorry for the inconvienience, wont' happen again. more info at: http://www.esafe.com/vcenter/pretty.html ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF0A9E.E9430FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear list members,
 
I might have sent both an attached virus, and = later on a=20 dutch explanation on how to get rid of it.
... |-((
Sorry for the inconvienience, wont' happen = again.
 
more info at:
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------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF0A9E.E9430FA0-- ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 13:35:43-GMT,2595;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03240 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:35:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32063; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:27:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:24:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31790; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393AA3@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] 2-byte font embedding Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:22:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ How about Type 1 fonts on a Mac? Since most high-end workflows in Japan have printer fonts on the printer, how can one embed fonts into a PDF? Is it even possible on a Mac for ANY type of 2-byte font? Todd >Does anyone have experience with Acrobat 4 and trying to embed TrueType >2-byte fonts (specifically, Japanese, Osaka)? Distiller gives me a font >substitution error, saying that it can't locate the 2-byte font, and >therefore, it can't be embedded. I made sure that they were in the >postscript stream when I created the .ps for distilling. >If you're on a Mac (I am), you can stop trying. TrueType double-byte fonts >only embed in the Windows version of Acrobat 4. >--K Hindall >kkh1@occidens.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 14:06:02-GMT,2345;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03901 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02384; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:56:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:53:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02053; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:53:10 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393AA3@denver.quark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:58:20 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: K Hindall Subject: RE: [PDF] 2-byte font embedding Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >How about Type 1 fonts on a Mac? Since most high-end workflows in Japan have >printer fonts on the printer, how can one embed fonts into a PDF? Is it even >possible on a Mac for ANY type of 2-byte font? Yes, PostScript fonts will embed. I don't know the details unfortunately (I do not have access to PostScript Japanese fonts just yet). From my study of the documentation, I'd say that you have to have the font installed in one of your watched folders and it has to be named exactly what Acrobat expects the font to be named. That's only supposition on my part, though. --K Hindall kkh1@occidens.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 15:26:50-GMT,2693;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06047 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:26:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14373; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:13:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:09:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13860; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:09:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393AA3@denver.quark.com> References: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393AA3@denver.quark.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:09:55 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] 2-byte font embedding Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA13855 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 7:22 AM -0600 9/29/99, Todd Reid wrote: >How about Type 1 fonts on a Mac? Since most high-end workflows in Japan have >printer fonts on the printer, how can one embed fonts into a PDF? Is it even >possible on a Mac for ANY type of 2-byte font? > I have distilled PS documents on the Mac containing 2 byte fonts (Japanese, specifically), so I can vouch that this works fine. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 15:58:17-GMT,2958;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07083 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:58:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16146; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:28:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:25:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15690; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:25:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: Donna Russell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] "% [ Warning: Maximum number of named destinations reac hed. Ignoring future named destinations ] % Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:25:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thank you Aandi for your help. You were right. The file came out great after I changed the compatibility setting. -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [mailto:listreader2@quite.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:07 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] "% [ Warning: Maximum number of named destinations reached. Ignoring future named destinations ] % The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Anyway, I've been trying to distill a huge book file and keep > coming up with > the following message: > > "% [ Warning: Maximum number of named destinations reached. > Ignoring future > named destinations ] % You can eliminate this by setting "3.0 compatible" in Distiller. Acrobat 2.1 had a limit on the number of links you could generate. Later versions removed that, but if you set "2.1 compatible" in Distiller it must honour the old limit. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> <- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 17:31:49-GMT,2885;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10102 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27802; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:20:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:17:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27413; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:17:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393AA7@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] 2-byte font embedding Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:02:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA27402 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I have distilled PS documents on the Mac containing 2 byte >fonts (Japanese, specifically), so I can vouch that this works fine. Leonard But does this assume that the printer font is on your computer? This is often NOT the case in Japan, where Type 1 CID printer fonts reside on the printer and NOT on the local computers (because of the huge size of font downloading and expense of multiple fonts installs). Todd ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 19:15:29-GMT,6457;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13126 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:15:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07927; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:06:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:01:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07311; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:01:56 -0500 Message-ID: <015d01bf0aac$d9ff40a0$fab38dcf@curtech.vrg.com> From: "Steve Panish" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:00:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi and thanks to Randy and others who have responded. Magnification in the PDF reader doesn't help. When I enlarge the images in the PDF, the resolution remains poor...just a bigger view. I should mention that the resolution loss is profound. It as though one were viewing an image at 10 dpi. Text is degraded to the point that it is barely readable. The captured images don't look better in Word because of Word's anti-aliasing (which i didn't know about), they look and print fine because there hasn't yet been any resolution loss. Adobe seems to have a lot to say about images looking a bit worse in a PDF than in Word because of Word's anti-aliasing, but what I am seeing is I believe a much bigger difference. The PDF images also print as they view - with this very low resolution. I don't know much about how the PDF gets sent to the printer but since it is basicly postscript it should be resolution independent and there should be no resolution loss. This is not the case, since the printed images look just like the crummy screens from the Reader. I have only printed on an HP inkjet so far, not a PCL or PS printer. My goal is actually both to have PDF and printed manuals, where the printed versions are done from the PDF on a Docutech. RE the issue of the PCL printer 3.1 bug, I did import the images into Word 97 with the printer set for an HP55 Si MX, which does have a PCL mode. However the driver is the postscript version. In any case as others have suggested, I tried first setting the Word printer to the PDFWriter, then importing a TIFF and GIF, then creating the PDF. This didn't help. Then I tried downloading the Adobe patch for the PCL bug, but that too didn't help. I have to admit I did this quite late at night so to be I'll redo it when fully conscious. Lastly I tried importing an image and not putting it in a text box. Same crutty image! I'm going to spend a bit more time wth the Adobe support docs and see if I've missed something...meanwhile I guess I should order V4.0 and see if the bug is gone. Steve Panish, Ph.D. email:scp@vrg.com CEO, Vision Research Graphics, Inc http://www.vrg.com 99A Madbury Rd. tel: (603)868-2090 Durham, N.H. USA 03824 fax:(603)868-1352 -----Original Message----- From: rhoggard To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 2:01 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Hi Steven, >In my experience, I use MSWord to create software user manuals. The >screen shots always look poor in Acrobat unless I force a particular >magnification. Since screen shots are usually made at 72 dpi, I must >force a magnification of 133 or 134 % in Acrobat for a decent view. Once >you find the magnification that works for you, (if the methodology is >even relevant for your situation), this also means that all graphics in >the source document need to be the same dpi. If you alter one, >(re-sizing while still in source) it won't view correctly unless you >force a different Acrobat magnification just for the page that it is >displayed on. Of course this turns into a major hassle forcing different >views from page to page, so its best to keep all graphics at the same >dpi to begin with. Also you need to bear in mind that if Fit Width or >Fit Visible happens to display a magnification that works on your >monitor, it may not work on one of a different size or type. You have to >force a percentage. What I do is install a Document Open of 133, then >have all my links and bookmarks use the Inherit Zoom option or Fixed >View to keep the same magnification. > >Hope this helps, but I am unsure of your exact situation so it may not. >Also, this is what I have found that works for me and even I don't >really like it that much, so there may be better alternatives that may >come from the list subscribers. > >I don't have any suggestions on the custom paper sizing. > >Randy Hoggard >Information Design Consultant >Interim Technology > >Steve Panish. Ph. D. wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> When I convert MSWord 97 docs to PDF the images are being degraded to = >> unusable quality. >> >-snipped- > > > >________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ ><- Open eBook Authoring Group (OEB) approves eBook specification 1.0 -> ><- Based on XML, not PDF: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/eBookFinal.html -> >__________________________________________________________________ > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 19:41:38-GMT,3263;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13878 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:41:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11492; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:32:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:28:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10840; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:28:41 -0500 From: mpaz@intrieve.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:25:59 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: lbutler@intrieve.com Subject: [PDF] Distilling Acrobat 4 down to 3 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/222041504/222002932/222090653/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 132e" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA10835 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We've been working with Acrobat 4.0 for a few weeks. After many false tries, we can distill PDFs that are readable to our Acrobat 3.0 Reader audience if we set our Distiller Compatibility Option to Acrobat 3.0 (thanks again for the tip, Aandi). But I suspect that this setting has caused another problem. Now, when we view the PDF distilled to Acrobat 3.0 using Acrobat 4.0, the page appears "textured". That is, the page is not white but appears colored, thanks to the tiny dots that appear on the page. And, if we print the "textured" document, our printer interprets the "texturing" to be color and prints a pastel background. Totally unacceptable! The funny thing is that if we using Acrobat 3.0 to read the distilled to 3 file, the texturing is gone. And yes, if we distill the same file using the Distiller Compatibility Option set to Acrobat 4.0, there is no "texturing" when read in 4.0. Too bad our 3.0 readers get error messages (the famous C8 color message) and a black page. Has anyone had this problem? Is there a work around? FYI, the originating files can be out of FrameMaker 5.5 or Word 97. We're on a Novell LAN and USE Windows 95. If you want, I can e-mail anyone a single page file for demonstration purposes off list (yes, I'm desperate!) Thanks in advance, Lani ********************************** Intrieve Incorporated 312 Plum St. PO Box 5412 Cincinnati, OH 45201-5412 Voice.......(513) 381-9400 Fax.........(513) 381-9509 www.intrieve.com ********************************** ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 20:21:59-GMT,3211;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15260 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:21:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14933; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:59:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:56:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14584; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:56:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199909291956.OAA14579@everglades.binc.net> Date: 29 Sep 99 15:57:30 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA14580 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Steve Panish wrote: >Magnification in the PDF reader doesn't help. When I enlarge the images in >the PDF, the resolution remains poor...just a bigger view. I should mention >that the resolution loss is profound. It as though one were viewing an >image at 10 dpi. Text is degraded to the point that it is barely readable. >The PDF images also print as they view - with this very low resolution. >My goal is actually both to have >PDF and printed manuals, where the printed versions are done from the PDF on >a Docutech. I am coming in late on this thread, but we print MS Word and MS Word created PDF's to a Docutech all the time, many of which use screenshots. Are you using Acrobat Distiller? If so, which version? What settings? Have you tried printing any of these PDF's on a Docutech? I would also suggest downloading the plug-in CheckUp from Enfocus (www.enfocus.com) Even in demo mode it will scan the 1st page of your PDF. This will give you valuable information about the creating program of your PDF, font embedding, actual resolution of your images and much more. If your images are indeed 10 dpi, then you need new images. Anyone-Isn't there a utility that takes higher res screen shots? I thought I saw it mentioned on the list several months ago. Hope that helps... Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 21:02:45-GMT,2797;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16418 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:02:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20217; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:44:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:41:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19826; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:41:26 -0500 Message-ID: <37F27964.1AF2E9B@monkscopyshop.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:41:30 -0400 From: larry kendall Organization: monkscopyshop.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs References: <015d01bf0aac$d9ff40a0$fab38dcf@curtech.vrg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve, I think that if you check your pdf's are being made with type 3 fonts. I am not sure why this sometimes happens. Pdf files that we generate internall don't seem to have this problem but several of my clients send me files that look like what you describe. You can deterine if this is the problem by sending one of the files to the docutech or other postscript printer and if they are type 3's the print will be fine. Acro4 will tell you in DocInfo if you have type 3 fonts. If this does turn out to be the problem and you find out why Word is doing it please let me know Larry K The Monk's Digital Print Shop Steve Panish wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi and thanks to Randy and others who have responded. > > Magnification in the PDF reader doesn't help. When I enlarge the images in > the PDF, the resolution remains poor...just a bigger view. I should mention ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 21:11:45-GMT,3476;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16683 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:11:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21491; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:56:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:53:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21199; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:53:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990929165844.00810c80@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:58:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs In-Reply-To: <199909291956.OAA14579@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Anyone-Isn't there a utility that takes higher res screen shots? I thought I saw >it mentioned on the list several months ago. > I've seen lots of descriptions of methods that purport to increase the resolution of screen captures but they all seem to involve changing the bogus dpi setting that e.g. Photoshop assumes when it isn't told better to something else or upsampling the image after capturing (which might improve the final appearance in the same way that Acro4's antialiasing does, at least in some cases.) In the end, the screen capture itself is just grabbing the image in the video card's memory. If the card's set to 640x480, then that's what you get when you capture. The obvious thing, then, is to bump the resolution up as high as it'll go on the video settings. To a point, that is. In some cases (Office 97, others maybe?) the "screen furniture" ... the scroll bars and some of the other whatnots scattered about ... will appear gray to the naked eye. But when you capture and examine them closely, they're a checkerboard pattern, which if not displayed in the end at *just* the right magnification, turns into awful looking moire-type effects. The trick here is to experiment with the video display's color depth settings. It may be dependant on the particular board/drivers, but I found that at 24-bit or 32-bit (forget which) color, the scroll bars and such became a pure uniform gray, not checkerboarded, meaning that they didn't turn into horrors when enlarged or shrunk to some non-integral multiple of the output device's resolution. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 21:14:10-GMT,3988;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16775 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:14:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22509; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:06:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:03:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22189; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:03:17 -0500 Message-ID: <01a901bf0abd$cdc37a20$fab38dcf@curtech.vrg.com> From: "Steve Panish" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:01:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Larry, The fonts look fine and print fine from the PDF (on the HP deskjet). It is only the pictures that look crummy in the PDF. Are type 3 fonts incompatible with the graphics? I'll try printing the PDF on the ps printer to see what happens. Tomorrow. Steve Panish, Ph.D. email:scp@vrg.com CEO, Vision Research Graphics, Inc http://www.vrg.com 99A Madbury Rd. tel: (603)868-2090 Durham, N.H. USA 03824 fax:(603)868-1352 -----Original Message----- From: larry kendall To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Steve, > >I think that if you check your pdf's are being made with type 3 fonts. I am not >sure why this sometimes happens. Pdf files that we generate internall don't seem >to have this problem but several of my clients send me files that look like what >you describe. You can deterine if this is the problem by sending one of the files >to the docutech or other postscript printer and if they are type 3's the print >will be fine. Acro4 will tell you in DocInfo if you have type 3 fonts. If this >does turn out to be the problem and you find out why Word is doing it please let >me know > >Larry K >The Monk's Digital Print Shop > >Steve Panish wrote: > >> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> Hi and thanks to Randy and others who have responded. >> >> Magnification in the PDF reader doesn't help. When I enlarge the images in >> the PDF, the resolution remains poor...just a bigger view. I should mention > > >________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ ><- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" ervice -> > <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> >__________________________________________________________________ > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1999 22:13:33-GMT,2446;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18375 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:13:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29543; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:03:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:59:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29005; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:59:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199909292159.QAA28999@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distilling Acrobat 4 down to 3 From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: mpaz@intrieve.com >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Distilling Acrobat 4 down to 3 >Date: Wed, Sep 29, 1999, 1:25 PM > > Now, when we view the PDF distilled to Acrobat 3.0 using Acrobat 4.0, the > page appears "textured". That is, the page is not white but appears > colored, thanks to the tiny dots that appear on the page. And, if we print > the "textured" document, our printer interprets the "texturing" to be color > and prints a pastel background. Totally unacceptable! Try distilling with the color conversion option set to "Leave color unchanged" and the compatibility set to Acrobat 3.0. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 1:09:52-GMT,2946;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22959 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:09:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15807; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:04:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:59:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15052; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:59:23 -0500 Message-ID: <003b01bf0ade$f22e47c0$b4102987@its.att.com> From: "Bob" To: Subject: [PDF] Thought that this might be of help to someone Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:58:43 -0400 Organization: Strategic Resources International, Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi! 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SueG - ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 2:33:43-GMT,2730;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24825 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:33:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24536; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:25:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:22:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24240; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:22:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003b01bf0ade$f22e47c0$b4102987@its.att.com> References: <003b01bf0ade$f22e47c0$b4102987@its.att.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:26:43 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: PDFzone Listowner Subject: Re: [PDF] Thought that this might be of help to someone Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please do NOT post job openings to the PDFzone lists -- this is NOT an appropriate use of these lists. For one reason, many companies that allow their employees to access these lists as a resource may have second thoughts if/when they realize that job openings are also being waved in front of their staff. Second, PDFzone recently announced a new "PDF Jobs" service that IS *exactly* the place for these kids of announcements that involve significant Acrobat/PDF skills. If your company or others you become aware of are looking for people with such expertise, they are welcome to submit them to the "PDF Jobs" database at: SUBMIT: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ SEARCH: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ Thanks for your cooperatio. -- PDFzone.com _________________________ > I got this mail from some company. I thought this might be helpful to some > of you. > > This is the mail which I got > ===================================================== > > We are a consulting/staffing firm based in ... ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 3:29:53-GMT,2192;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA26177 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:29:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29603; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:22:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:19:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29270; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:19:51 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:18:38 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Distiller and Adobe PS driver Message-ID: <19990929.231838.-152967.3.tomliv@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 3.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-6,9-12 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Thomas S Livingston Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am no longer able to use the PS laser printer at work to go from Framemaker to Distiller to PDF - I am now doing the same job at home 3000 miles away. My home printer is non PS. I loaded the Adobe PS 4.2.6 driver, and using that printer to go from Framemaker to Distiller to PDF works except for color graphics created outside of Framemaker. They are no longer in color, and they need to be. Any suggestions? I could use the PDF Writer, but I'd prefer to use Distiller. BTW, I'm using Exchange 3.01 and Distiller 3.02 on a Win 98 PC. Thanks. Tom Livingston ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 3:35:27-GMT,2356;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA26295 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:35:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA30225; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:30:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:28:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA30045; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:28:10 -0500 Message-ID: <02d201bf0ada$69c798e0$f9462099@corp.adobe.com> From: "Chris Cade" To: Subject: [PDF] Adobe Feedback Request: Have you had problems with Find/Search? Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:26:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It has been brought to Adobe's attention that the results between Acrobat Find and Search are not always identical. This is a known bug with Acrobat, and we would like to know how prevalent this problem is. If you have experienced any differences between the Find and Search results, please email me directly. It would help me to know what exactly the differences were. For example, what was the word/string that was searched for and did how many occurrences did Search and Find return. If you have a small sample file, please feel free to attach it. Thanks! Best regards, Chris Cade Acrobat QA ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 4:53:36-GMT,2659;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27918 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:53:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03158; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:38:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:35:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02846; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:35:50 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F85138953559D@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller and Adobe PS driver Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:34:26 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It sounds like your printer driver hasnt been told it's colour ... There will be some settings in the Printers Control Panel to adjust the colour output of your PS files. Go into the start menu, select SETTINGS, then choose PRINTER. Now select the printer driver in question with the RIGHT MOUSE button and select either Document Defaults or Properties. In the numerous tabs you will find an option for Colour. Hopefully it's as simple as that. But remember if the printer isn't colour, most times the driver wont be able to generate Colour in the PS (and ultimately PDF). Dave....... ------------------------------ > I am no longer able to use the PS laser printer at work to go from > Framemaker to Distiller to PDF - I am now doing the same job at home 3000 > miles away. My home printer is non PS. I loaded the Adobe PS 4.2.6 > driver, and using that printer to go from Framemaker to Distiller to PDF > works except for color graphics created outside of Framemaker. They are > no longer in color, and they need to be. > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 8:05:31-GMT,2084;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02206 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:05:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16730; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:58:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:55:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA16531; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:55:33 -0500 From: "S Khullar" To: Subject: [PDF] Distiller on Server, any legal issues Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:47:04 +0530 Message-ID: <01bf0b1c$2dda6320$02c802c0@workstation.SDPL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ As you know a distiller on the server can be used with different watch folders for different users. But is it legal? The Watch folder dialog box has this message at the bottom. "Reminder: All capabilities of Acrobat Distiller are for individual use only and not to provide service to others." Does this mean distiller on a server is illegal? What??? Khullar ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 12:37:31-GMT,3604;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07491 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 06:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03271; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:28:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:24:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02891; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:24:44 -0500 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567FC.0044489D.00@smtpmta.vapower.com> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:24:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe Feedback Request: Have you had problems with Find /Search? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello Chris, Just a little more background, FWIW. I was the original poster on this. The files that have exibited the discrepancy were created with Acrobat 4. If you did not get a copy of my discrepancy statistics from Dina, please let me know and I will send them directly to you. Those statistics were based on Find/Search operations with Reader 4. We believe Reader 4 finds all occurrences, but know that Reader 3 does not. We have not done a detailed metric on this to determine whether the Find hits in Reader 3 correspond to the Search hits in Reader 4. Also, as I told Dina, these were all numeric strings. I don't have metrics on alpha strings. Regards, Charles "Chris Cade" on 09/29/99 08:26:15 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Charles Richardson/NUC/VANCPOWER) Subject: [PDF] Adobe Feedback Request: Have you had problems with Find/Search? The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It has been brought to Adobe's attention that the results between Acrobat Find and Search are not always identical. This is a known bug with Acrobat, and we would like to know how prevalent this problem is. If you have experienced any differences between the Find and Search results, please email me directly. It would help me to know what exactly the differences were. For example, what was the word/string that was searched for and did how many occurrences did Search and Find return. If you have a small sample file, please feel free to attach it. Thanks! Best regards, Chris Cade Acrobat QA ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 13:03:35-GMT,2871;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07968 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:03:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06203; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:57:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:53:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05726; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C03@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller on Server, any legal issues Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:53:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Not exactly. Distiller can be used on a server, but each "user" who places PS files into the input folder, and gets PDF files of the output folder, has to have an individual license. Therefore, the sharing of Distiller between many users is not allowed. The Acrobat 4.0 User Guide specifically makes the following statement: Important: You cannot set up watched folders as a network service for other users. Every user who creates PDF files must have his or her own Acrobat license. Use watched folders only for converting your own files. Gary Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com mailto:gadecke@wcnoc.com > ---------- > From: S Khullar[SMTP:skhullar@summitindia.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 3:17 AM > Subject: [PDF] Distiller on Server, any legal issues > > As you know a distiller on the server can be used with different watch > folders for different users. > > But is it legal? > > The Watch folder dialog box has this message at the bottom. > > "Reminder: All capabilities of Acrobat Distiller are for individual > use only > and not to provide service to others." > > Does this mean distiller on a server is illegal? > What??? > > Khullar ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 13:21:33-GMT,2123;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08358 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:21:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08779; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:15:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:12:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08301; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:12:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Williams, Dane/ATL" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Independent Search tool? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:12:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hey, Does anyone know of a search utility which can keyword-search multiple PDF files, descending into directory structure, independent of a server,.... such as a CD full of PDF files, a Reader, and this search utility. We have implemented a similar setup on a webserver using MS Index Server and the Adobe IFilter, but this would need to be independent of any specific system or web-access. THANKS for any thoughts, Dane Dane Williams GIS Imaging Specialist Information Solutions, CH2M HILL / ATL ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 13:29:18-GMT,2387;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08553 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:29:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09488; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:21:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:19:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09195; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:19:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393AB4@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller and Adobe PS driver Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:17:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This sounds like a PPD problem. Check to make sure your settings support color ouput and make sure your PPD supports color. Todd "...and using that printer to go from Framemaker to Distiller to PDF works except for color graphics created outside of Framemaker. They are no longer in color, and they need to be. Any suggestions? I could use the PDF Writer, but I'd prefer to use Distiller. BTW, I'm using Exchange 3.01 and Distiller 3.02 on a Win 98 PC. Thanks. Tom Livingston ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 15:30:53-GMT,2009;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11664 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:30:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22248; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:22:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:19:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21846; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:19:16 -0500 Message-ID: <37F37E96.F6B6AE8A@lithsystem.se> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:16:32 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rgen?= Ingvarsson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Font problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please can anyone help me? I have made a pdf-document wich will be published on the web. In my computer (Win. 95) it will be ok. And also on the web, but when the customer print it out it will reflow, he have try this on a couple of printers. Is there some preferences I have missing? Jörgen Ingvarsson Lith System AB ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 15:45:56-GMT,2812;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12114 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:45:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23526; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:35:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:32:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23176; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:32:29 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990930083051.00bc2630@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:32:22 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller and Adobe PS driver Cc: Thomas S Livingston In-Reply-To: <19990929.231838.-152967.3.tomliv@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9/29/99 08:18 PM , Thomas S Livingston wrote: >I am no longer able to use the PS laser printer at work to go from >Framemaker to Distiller to PDF - I am now doing the same job at home 3000 >miles away. My home printer is non PS. I loaded the Adobe PS 4.2.6 >driver, and using that printer to go from Framemaker to Distiller to PDF >works except for color graphics created outside of Framemaker. They are >no longer in color, and they need to be. > >Any suggestions? I could use the PDF Writer, but I'd prefer to use >Distiller. BTW, I'm using Exchange 3.01 and Distiller 3.02 on a Win 98 >PC. > >Thanks. > >Tom Livingston Best guess is that you installed the driver with a PPD other than that for the Acrobat Distiller. You MUST use the Acrobat Distiller PPD to be assured of generating the correct PostScript for distillation. The PPD is the Distiller's XTRAS subdirectory. - Dov ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 16:12:16-GMT,4529;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12973 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26735; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:01:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:59:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26376; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:59:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199909301559.LAA29675@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: separated PDF processing with screen angles Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:12:02 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ besides the obvious issue that you probably would do yourself a major favor by moving from a separated workflow to a composite one, no, i dod not believe that many vendors besides Creo have adressed the handeling of separated PDF files in a user friendly manner. the biggest problem, in all honestly, is that whiule Quark can set up to both generate objects that will behave as traps and screen angle information, many users also prefer to use a vendors screening type (like Agfa Balanced Screening, for example) and this information is NOT EMBEDABLE in PostScript or EPS or PDF. so, while Apogee might provide you a way to include speciall PostScript commands in the PDF files or PostScript files that are then sent to a RIP, the RIP must be able to "apply" somethings also... Crakerjack is a fine utility for many single page jobs - but it is not a high end prepress production system with saveable Job Tickets that are designed to "store" how a set of PDF files should be processed - nor does it have a JTP (Job Ticket Processor) that can apply this processing information new PDF files that need to be processed like another job was. and as for Kens statement - as in Ken Thomson" ; i think the term local to your longitude and latitude is bullocks. your comment snip (Scitex Brisque or the mac RIP PSM) "... is faster than apogee" At what stage? Interpreting? Rendering? Imaging? And if the PDF file has a graphics state operator within it that request that a particular object be rendered at a different set of screen angles or a different line screen, what happens then? (answer is "it is totally ignored") Faster has no relevance when a solution does not offer the ability to honor something as fundimental as changing device settings - when you convert PostScript or PDF into an internal raster format (Scitex CT/LW) prior to asking some screening board to screen at the device, you eleiminate the ability to accomplish things you would have if you honor graphics state operators - so even if the timings were faster (which they are not) - don't be lured by time alone. >HI to ALL > >I am looking for a method to send preseparated PDFs to my ImageSetter with >customizable Screening angles etc. > >The Problem: >I get preseparated PS-Files and distill them. >So i have 4 Pages, 1 = CYAN, 2 is MAGENTA, 3 = YELLOW, 4 = BLACK >or (if i have custom colors) 1 = BLACK, 2 = PANTONE XXX. > >I need to send this to my imagesetter with: >Page 1 = CYAN angle, Page 2= Magenta ANgle and so on......... > >Up to now i am working with Crackerjack. >But this means to change the settings for each page and send each page >seperately. > >Is there any other method besides AGFA Apogee?????? > > >Thanks Richard Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org 011 32 3 444 3921 ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 17:36:34-GMT,7585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15325 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:36:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02605; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:23:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:19:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02122; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:19:33 -0500 From: John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:17:04 -0400 Message-ID: <001A81CF.C22094@am.pnu.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs To: "Steve Panish" , "PDF Discussion List" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:01:28 -0400, Steve Panish wrote: "The fonts look fine and print fine from the PDF (on the HP deskjet). It is only the pictures that look crummy in the PDF. Are type 3 fonts incompatible with the graphics? I'll try printing the PDF on the ps printer to see what happens. Tomorrow." Steve, By now, you should have found that when you print the PDF file on a PS printer, the screen shots look just as good as they did when printed directly from Word. The problem does not originate with Word. You would be having the same problem with any authoring app. (Word causes a lot of problems, mostly font-related, but you can't blame this one on it.) Nor is there an inherint problem with PDF. Assuming the printout from Word is satisfactory, the problems that you are having with viewing and printing the PDF file are caused entirely by what is refered to in some of Adobe's docs and bulletins as "smoothing," that is, antialiasing. If you could hit EXACTLY the right zoom factor, you wouldn't need smoothing because each pixel would map directly to a pixel on your display or to a cell (x by y dots) on your printer. Specifically, Acrobat Reader and Exchange v3.01 were not capable of antialiasing ("smoothing") anything other than monochrome images and fonts. (To enable this, click File > Preferences > General and then check "Smooth text and monochrome images.") They issued a half-baked fix for the problem as 3.01RA, the so-called "PCL printing" fix. Reader 3.02 includes the fix, as well as new PDF Forms plug-ins. These fixes helped somewhat with viewing and with printing to any non-PS printer. Acrobat 4 has the ability to antialias ("smooth") ALL types of images. You enable this the same way as in v3, click Files > Preferences > General and then check "Smooth text and images." Unfortunately, Acrobat does not provide separate options to control smoothing for text and images individually. Some people will complain that the text looks too soft or fuzzy when smoothed. But, if smoothing is turned off, text within images -- most notably screen shots -- will once again look terrible, usually unreadable. With the "smoothing" enabled, I have a hard time determining whether a screen capture looks better displayed in Word or displayed in Acrobat, when both are displayed at the same size on the screen. To give you the best screen captures to start with, use as high a screen resolution as possible, because it all boils down to how many pixels by how many pixels the image is. Some bitmap file formats put BS in them about the image being such-and-such size, e.g., 4x5 inches, but it comes down to pixels in the end: how many pixels per dimension unit does the image have at the size YOU end up USING it. With an insufficient number of pixels available, the "smoothing" may be more noticeable. Many apps don't change the pixel x pixel size of their dialogs for different screen resolutions. A dialog displayed at 640x480 resolution will simply occupy a larger portion of the screen than it will at 1024x768, because it occupies the same x by y pixel space in either case. If that is the case with the apps you are dealing with, using a higher display resolution won't help you. On the other hand, don't use a higher resolution than you need. Depending on screen size (from 15" to 21") and display resolution (from 640x480 to 1600x1200) you have anywhere from about 40 pixels per inch to about 112 pixels per inch. To print a screen capture, you probably need no more than 200 pixels per inch. (That is, if you capture a 400x500 pixel dialog box and the final size of the box on the printed page is no larger than 2x2.5 inches, you're okay. For printing on a 600 dpi B&W laser printer, you can print the box as large as about 4x5 inches before you may start to see some pixelation effects.) If you are capturing screens at high resolution and color depth (i.e., 24- or 32-bit color), you'll be dealing with rather large files. You should probably use your favorite image editing software (Adobe PhotoShop, Corel PhotoPaint, etc.) to reduce the number of colors in the image or change it to grayscale -- unless you print in color and/or want to be able to view the PDF with color. Few dialog boxes actually use more than 16 colors, so reducing the color depth from 16M to 256 or even to 16 with adaptive or optimized palettes and NO dithering will still look just fine. The minimum level of JPEG compression (or, in Distiller 4, the highest quality setting) will not degrade a screen capture perceptibly. You can dramatically reduce the size of your PDF files by handling each capture this way. DO NOT, however, enable downsampling for any images in the Distiller settings. The new bicubic downsampling option in Distiller 4 works quite well, but it's still downsampling. Subsampling, which simply eliminates part of the information, should never be an option for a screen capture image. So, in a nutshell, get your hands on Acrobat Reader 4 so you can see the difference. Unfortunately, you'll have to warn anyone you distribute the PDF to that they will need to use Acrobat 4 as well. As far as Type 3 fonts, avoid them. If you use TrueType fonts to compose your Word docs, consider installing Adobe Type Manager and using PS Type 1 fonts. If you must use TrueType fonts, study the TrueType section of Adobe's document number 319266 carefully. There are many ways -- combinations of PS printer driver settings and Distiller settings -- to end up with text that cannot be searched or copied when you start with TrueType fonts. Acrobat 4 used with the Adobe PS printer drivers, v4.3 for Win95/98 or v5.1 for WinNT, and the Acrobat Distiller PPD file helps to alleviate the problems with TrueType, but it does not completely eliminate them. --John E. Stuurwold Information Scientist Pharmacia & Upjohn Animal Health ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 17:37:38-GMT,2309;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15371 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:37:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02894; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:26:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:23:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02634; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:23:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990930132937.00814b80@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:29:37 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Independent Search tool? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Does anyone know of a search utility which can keyword-search multiple PDF >files, descending into directory structure, independent of a server,.... >such as a CD full of PDF files, a Reader, and this search utility. > This is what Catalog is for. With a catalog-indexed set of PDFs on a HD, network server or CD, anyone who has Reader+Search can keyword or full-text search the collection. Quite quickly, too. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 18:15:23-GMT,3511;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16478 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:15:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07007; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:08:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:05:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06678; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:05:06 -0500 Message-ID: <004301bf0b6e$10b88720$fab38dcf@grumpy2.curtech.com> From: "Steve Panish" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:03:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ John, Justin, and All who responded... The problem is indeed only present in viewing the PDFs on-screen. The aliasing on screen does not manifest when printed in postscript. I should have caught this because zooming up on the PDF does show the image intact and undegraded. For some reason when I tried this before I thought this was not the case. Maybe when the printer was set to the inkjet this is the case. At any rate thanks to John's very thorough response I have a good understanding of the issue and should be able to get this manual to press. My apologies to the list for not editing some earlier messages...I am now educated! best to all, Steve Panish, Ph.D. email:scp@vrg.com CEO, Vision Research Graphics, Inc http://www.vrg.com 99A Madbury Rd. tel: (603)868-2090 Durham, N.H. USA 03824 fax:(603)868-1352 -----Original Message----- From: John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com To: Steve Panish ; PDF Discussion List Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > > > >By now, you should have found that when you print the PDF file on a PS >printer, the screen shots look just as good as they did when printed >directly from Word. The problem does not originate with Word. You would be >having the same problem with any authoring app. (Word causes a lot of >problems, mostly font-related, but you can't blame this one on it.) Nor is >there an inherint problem with PDF. > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 19:04:38-GMT,5367;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17931 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:04:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11833; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:54:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:50:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11401; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:50:20 -0500 Message-ID: <37F42F5F.546D0674@lauterkranz.com> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:49:53 -0700 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: separated PDF processing with screen angles References: <199909301559.LAA29675@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for your statements. So in the meantime i bought Agfa Apogee, installed it and run the preseparated jobs. Its great, I like it. Richard mikejahn wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > besides the obvious issue that you probably would do yourself a major > favor by moving from a separated workflow to a composite one, no, i dod > not believe that many vendors besides Creo have adressed the handeling of > separated PDF files in a user friendly manner. > > the biggest problem, in all honestly, is that whiule Quark can set up to > both generate objects that will behave as traps and screen angle > information, many users also prefer to use a vendors screening type (like > Agfa Balanced Screening, for example) and this information is NOT > EMBEDABLE in PostScript or EPS or PDF. > > so, while Apogee might provide you a way to include speciall PostScript > commands in the PDF files or PostScript files that are then sent to a > RIP, the RIP must be able to "apply" somethings also... > > Crakerjack is a fine utility for many single page jobs - but it is not a > high end prepress production system with saveable Job Tickets that are > designed to "store" how a set of PDF files should be processed - nor does > it have a JTP (Job Ticket Processor) that can apply this processing > information new PDF files that need to be processed like another job was. > > and as for Kens statement - as in Ken Thomson" ; > > i think the term local to your longitude and latitude is bullocks. > > your comment snip (Scitex Brisque or the mac RIP PSM) "... is faster than > apogee" > > At what stage? Interpreting? Rendering? Imaging? > > And if the PDF file has a graphics state operator within it that request > that a particular object be rendered at a different set of screen angles > or a different line screen, what happens then? (answer is "it is totally > ignored") > > Faster has no relevance when a solution does not offer the ability to > honor something as fundimental as changing device settings - when you > convert PostScript or PDF into an internal raster format (Scitex CT/LW) > prior to asking some screening board to screen at the device, you > eleiminate the ability to accomplish things you would have if you honor > graphics state operators - so even if the timings were faster (which they > are not) - don't be lured by time alone. > > >HI to ALL > > > >I am looking for a method to send preseparated PDFs to my ImageSetter with > >customizable Screening angles etc. > > > >The Problem: > >I get preseparated PS-Files and distill them. > >So i have 4 Pages, 1 = CYAN, 2 is MAGENTA, 3 = YELLOW, 4 = BLACK > >or (if i have custom colors) 1 = BLACK, 2 = PANTONE XXX. > > > >I need to send this to my imagesetter with: > >Page 1 = CYAN angle, Page 2= Magenta ANgle and so on......... > > > >Up to now i am working with Crackerjack. > >But this means to change the settings for each page and send each page > >seperately. > > > >Is there any other method besides AGFA Apogee?????? > > > > > >Thanks Richard > > Michael Jahn > PDF Evangelist > Agfa Gevaert NV > Septestraat 27 > B-2640 > Mortsel > Belgium > www.agfahome.com > www.jahn.org > > 011 32 3 444 3921 > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> > <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> > __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Adobe's Acrobat stock rises with Tokyo Stock Exchange -> <- Free to businesses: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobeStockTokyo.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 19:17:49-GMT,2845;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18306 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:17:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13558; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:12:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:09:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13232; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:09:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990930151443.008fa620@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:14:43 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs In-Reply-To: <004301bf0b6e$10b88720$fab38dcf@grumpy2.curtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The problem is indeed only present in viewing the PDFs on-screen. The >aliasing on screen does not manifest when printed in postscript. If you look very closely, especially at text in captured screen shots, you'll see that it's not aliasing in the usual sense (ie, diagonal lines gone jaggy due to low rez display) but more a matter of Acrobat Pre-4 tossing out image pixels when it has to display, e.g. an 800x600 image at 400x300. Getting it to display just right is usually possible, but very fussy. The zoom factor has to be just right (and I suspect won't work at all if size as displayed in Reader divided by the combination of image size + size of image as placed in document doesn't result in an integer. I don't recall that you can plug in non-integer zoom factors. Unless you happen to hit this happy medium, it would appear that all screen shots look bad in Reader/Exchange 3, which isn't 100% true. Just 99.999% Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Adobe's Acrobat stock rises with Tokyo Stock Exchange -> <- Free to businesses: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobeStockTokyo.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 19:41:11-GMT,2484;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18958 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15615; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:32:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:31:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15322; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:31:07 -0500 Message-ID: <007d01bf0b7a$139dfd60$fab38dcf@grumpy2.curtech.com> From: "Steve Panish" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:29:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Actually, this is the "textbook" definition of aliasing (from signal processing theory)...an error introduced by limited sampling! The jaggy diagonal is the special case... Steve Panish, Ph.D. email:scp@vrg.com CEO, Vision Research Graphics, Inc http://www.vrg.com 99A Madbury Rd. tel: (603)868-2090 Durham, N.H. USA 03824 fax:(603)868-1352 >If you look very closely, especially at text in captured screen shots, >you'll see that it's not aliasing in the usual sense (ie, diagonal lines >gone jaggy due to low rez display) but more a matter of Acrobat Pre-4 >tossing out image pixels when it has to display, e.g. an 800x600 image at >400x300. > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Adobe's Acrobat stock rises with Tokyo Stock Exchange -> <- Free to businesses: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobeStockTokyo.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 21:11:43-GMT,2919;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21624 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:11:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24213; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:01:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:59:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23961; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:59:33 -0500 From: Jennifer Greene Message-Id: <199909302059.QAA24078@louis.dfci.harvard.edu> Subject: [PDF] Quark PDF Filter To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:59:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am having a problem installing the Quark PDF Filter xtension version 1.1 for Windows. When Quark was first started up after installing the filter files, and the first file was exported to pdf- a popup window came up and asked me to locate Acrobat Distiller. I mistakenly selected the wrong program (ACRODIST.EXE instead of DISTASST.EXE) and now I can't find out how to change the setting. After the first time the prompt never comes up. I tried removing the filter files to uninstall it and then reinstalling, but even though I can get it to ask me to accept the license again, it doesn't ask me where Distiller is again. I suspect the setting was put into a windows file somewhere but haven't been able to locate it (I checked win.ini and system.ini and checked the file associations). Does anyone have an idea how to change this setting? Right now the filter is just crashing out of Quark after it starts to execute. Is my assumption that ACRODIST.EXE was bad and DISTASST.EXE should be there instead correct? I've set this up correctly before, but forgot what I selected last time. I noticed that the Distiller from the Start menu goes to the DISTASST.EXE (too late unfortunately). I am using Quark 4.0 for Windows if that info is needed. Thank you, Jennifer --- Jennifer L. Greene . jgreene@jimmy.dfci.harvard.edu ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Adobe's Acrobat stock rises with Tokyo Stock Exchange -> <- Free to businesses: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobeStockTokyo.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 21:16:25-GMT,2269;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21765 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:16:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25176; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:10:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:09:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25063; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:09:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990930171441.0095a930@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:14:41 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs In-Reply-To: <007d01bf0b7a$139dfd60$fab38dcf@grumpy2.curtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Actually, this is the "textbook" definition of aliasing (from signal >processing theory)...an error introduced by limited sampling! The jaggy >diagonal is the special case... > Ah, I see. I think. But fill the blank in for me, would you? How's sampling defined in this usage? Talk slowly, small words and all that. I'm a real-world analogy kinda guy. ;-) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Adobe's Acrobat stock rises with Tokyo Stock Exchange -> <- Free to businesses: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobeStockTokyo.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 22:22:31-GMT,2268;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23411 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:21:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26844; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:24:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:22:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26652; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:22:13 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark PDF Filter Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:21:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bf0b89$d52107c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <199909302059.QAA24078@louis.dfci.harvard.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > I am having a problem installing the Quark PDF Filter xtension version > 1.1 for Windows. When Quark was first started up after installing the > filter files, and the first file was exported to pdf- a popup window > came up and asked me to locate Acrobat Distiller. I mistakenly > selected the wrong program (ACRODIST.EXE instead of DISTASST.EXE) and > now I can't find out how to change the setting. That's the right program. You would not want to use DISTASST.EXE. Aandi ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Adobe's Acrobat stock rises with Tokyo Stock Exchange -> <- Free to businesses: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobeStockTokyo.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1999 23:09:48-GMT,2694;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24220 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:55:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA32466; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:05:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:02:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA32156; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:02:22 -0500 Message-ID: <00a001bf0b8f$3921ab80$fab38dcf@grumpy2.curtech.com> From: "Steve Panish" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:00:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Steve, The sampling is the process that reads the original pixel values ("read" and "sample" are pretty much the same thing) but in this case the reading is for the purpose of a resolution reduction. Say you have 800 pixels horizontally across an original image, and you are reducing it to 400 pixels. Effectively the sampling would take every other pixel for the new image. This can lead to some really ugly results, depending on what is in the original image. The image processing literature is full of ways of dealing with aliasing, most of which are fairly hairy. It is a huge area of experimentation because aliasing is so annoying. the other, Steve - >>Actually, this is the "textbook" definition of aliasing (from signal >>processing theory)...an error introduced by limited sampling! The jaggy >>diagonal is the special case... >> > > How's >sampling defined in this usage? > > >Steve Rindsberg >President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Adobe's Acrobat stock rises with Tokyo Stock Exchange -> <- Free to businesses: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobeStockTokyo.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1999 1:02:59-GMT,2015;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27099 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:02:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12876; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:30:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:27:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12586; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:27:46 -0500 Message-ID: <37F3FC80.A7EEC962@wt.net> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:12:48 -0500 From: Rick Bishop Organization: PRP_Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Thought that this might be of help References: <199909301253.HAA05751@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry, they don't mean pdf as in Adobe Acrobat pdf, but the controlling data files for NT4 and Win2000 are called pdf files. Nothing at all to do with Acrobat. Rick Bishop Houston Bob at itgems.com, inc. wrote: >We have two openings for developers who have experience in PDF >Libraries and C++ in Alexendria, VA. It is a full time position. ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Adobe's Acrobat stock rises with Tokyo Stock Exchange -> <- Free to businesses: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobeStockTokyo.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1999 1:40:41-GMT,2610;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27815 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:40:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18339; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:33:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:31:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18061; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:31:26 -0500 From: "Thane Terrill" To: "Pdf@Lists. Pdfzone. Com" Subject: [PDF] Links between PDF menu and HTML Menu Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:33:00 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bf0bac$e5f655f0$3700a8c0@bic.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I want to have a PDF version of an HTML menu that I'm doing for a CD-ROM. I create a link on the PDF screen to the HTML menu. The problem is that instead of going there via kicking up the browser, it captures it. Not the general idea. Is there a way to tell the link to load the file into the browser? Also, I was told that I could have relative links on a CD, but I've only been able to get a link like: file:///cdrom/index.htm when I do file:///index.htm it does not work. The two files are in the "cdrom" directory. What I'm I missing here? In case you're wondering, the reason for the PDF menu is to reduce the time it takes to load all my PDFs. I was finding that going through the HTML menu results in the Acrobat viewer being loaded and unloaded numerous times. I wish I could do everything in PDF, but that is not an option for me. ==Thane ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Adobe's Acrobat stock rises with Tokyo Stock Exchange -> <- Free to businesses: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobeStockTokyo.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1999 5:23:13-GMT,2411;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02645 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:23:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03011; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 00:17:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Oct 1999 00:13:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02722; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 00:13:37 -0500 Message-ID: <37F4433B.6D6D36F8@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 13:14:35 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Window resizing with document open Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm trying to create a document such that when I open it using Acrobat it will resize it to the first page. What I've done is under File-->Document Info--> Open 1. Set magnification to 100 (I want the document to open at actual size) 2. Checked Resize Window to Initial Page 3. Checked Centre Window on Screen These properties were saved. What I've encountered is that when I first have Acrobat open (say with some other document) and its window size is say full screen, the window doesn't resize when I open the document to the initial page although it has been set. But if the window that I had open earlier happens to be smaller than the document, then it works. Has anyone encountered this and know if this is a bug or whether there is a workaround ? Any help would be appreciated. Josephine Leong ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Adobe's Acrobat stock rises with Tokyo Stock Exchange -> <- Free to businesses: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/AdobeStockTokyo.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1999 12:43:33-GMT,1689;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11357 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:43:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00471; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:37:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:32:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00071; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:32:17 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:32:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Vito Andolini To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat4 and alpha processor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible til run adobe acrobat on an WInNT workstation with a alpha processor? ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <-Subscribe to a new, targeted email list for discussions on PDF-based forms -> <- PDF-Forms list: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists-pdfforms.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1999 12:49:23-GMT,2155;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11474 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 06:49:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01234; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:43:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:41:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00918; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:41:22 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991001084659.00894950@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:46:59 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs In-Reply-To: <00a001bf0b8f$3921ab80$fab38dcf@grumpy2.curtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The image processing literature is full of ways of dealing with aliasing, >most of which are fairly hairy. It is a huge area of experimentation >because aliasing is so annoying. > And why we're so fond of software that's anti it. Thanks! Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <-Subscribe to a new, targeted email list for discussions on PDF-based forms -> <- PDF-Forms list: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists-pdfforms.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1999 22:52:24-GMT,3367;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27877 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:52:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26005; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:45:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:37:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25107; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:37:07 -0500 From: mpaz@intrieve.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 18:34:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, todd@acquiredknowledge.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Distilling Acrobat 4 down to 3 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/222041504/222002932/222090653/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 132e" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA25097 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Todd- You were right! Your solution works perfectly. I've been re-distilled like crazy and the files are beautiful. Thanks for the help. You answered the question that has gone unanswered eventhough I've posted it to numerous lists and groups. Thanks! ---------- From: todd@acquiredknowledge.com Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:09 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distilling Acrobat 4 down to 3 Try distilling with the color conversion option set to "Leave color unchanged" and the compatibility set to Acrobat 3.0. Original Post: > Now, when we view the PDF distilled to Acrobat 3.0 using Acrobat 4.0, the > page appears "textured". That is, the page is not white but appears > colored, thanks to the tiny dots that appear on the page. And, if we print > the "textured" document, our printer interprets the "texturing" to be color > and prints a pastel background. Totally unacceptable! -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <- Several new PDF-centric jobs just posted to our free "PDF Jobs" service -> <- Search all open positions: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/jobs/ -> __________________________________________________________________ ********************************** Intrieve Incorporated 312 Plum St. PO Box 5412 Cincinnati, OH 45201-5412 Voice.......(513) 381-9400 Fax.........(513) 381-9509 www.intrieve.com ********************************** ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <-Subscribe to a new, targeted email list for discussions on PDF-based forms -> <- PDF-Forms list: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists-pdfforms.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1999 23:13:40-GMT,2710;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28328 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:13:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27134; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:56:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:53:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26865; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:53:16 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA278C266F@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printer Recommendations on Windows side Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:52:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We've moved a lot of our paper products to PDF and our customers are still needing to print these out at a reasonable quality. We're outputting whenever possible to the "print optimized" settings. Can someone recommend good business class printers that will handle both gray scale stuff (most stuff) but also color. I'm curious to here people's recommendations (inkjet vs. laser). We have an HP4M Plus which is OK, but not great for PDFs, also a 5M, also and Epson Stylus 3000 (good results). I'm reluctant to recommend the 3000 because it's expensive to run and relatively slow. Speed is important, but quality is more important. My customers are small businesses (20-50 staff) who won't be using this for their everyday, but when they need to send presentations to customers. The pieces they will send are a mix of text and photos. I'd be also curious as to people's recommendations for paper. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Kenny Schiff Technology Marketing Solutions "We put people in front of technology" http://www.techmarketingsolutions.com mailto:kenny.schiff@tms5.com ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <-Subscribe to a new, targeted email list for discussions on PDF-based forms -> <- PDF-Forms list: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists-pdfforms.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1999 1:07:15-GMT,3018;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00811 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:07:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04034; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:02:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:00:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03770; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:00:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199910020100.SAA09966@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <-Subscribe to a new, targeted email list for discussions on PDF-based forms -> <- PDF-Forms list: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists-pdfforms.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1999 2:08:04-GMT,3026;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02175 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:08:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08834; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:03:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:00:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA08448; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:00:58 -0500 Message-ID: <37F56700.3E4D0C0E@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 20:59:29 -0500 From: bobcatt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat4 and alpha processor References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello Vito: Considerations should be given to the fact that the Digital Equipment Corp. (now Compaq) Alpha chip set(s) are not Intel instruction set based. WindowsNT really only became viable for use on the Alpha with the v4.0 release. As for Windows NT>v4.0 operating system ... Microsoft, under license from Ensigna Corporation permit emulation in Alpha and Risc based systems of the NT instructions/opsys. For add-on's etc., you would be well advised to contact Ensigna for that information. As for Adobe Acrobat working within an NT emulation environment, well yes, it most certainly should work. As for Adobe having created an Alpha specific f32 code compiled exclusivly for the Alpha, I'd be most surprised if that were so and would guess the answer to be NO. Hope you find this helpful. bob Vito Andolini wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Is it possible til run adobe acrobat on an WInNT workstation with a alpha > processor? > > ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <-Subscribe to a new, targeted email list for discussions on PDF-based forms -> > <- PDF-Forms list: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists-pdfforms.html -> > __________________________________________________________________ ________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ <-Subscribe to a new, targeted email list for discussions on PDF-based forms -> <- PDF-Forms list: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists-pdfforms.html -> __________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 4:34:29-GMT,2050;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01741 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 22:34:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20402; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:24:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:15:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19657; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:15:49 -0500 Message-ID: <000901bf0d56$f5f9ca80$e5c62e9c@liebeno> From: "Terry" To: References: Subject: [PDF] Turn Page Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:22:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ How can I have a PDF document open to the first page and wait about 10 to 15 seconds and then turn to the next page. I have seen PDF documents do this and I would like to implement this into a project I am working on. Thanks in advance for any help on this. Terry terry@powerweb.net __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 8:35:07-GMT,3087;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA06191 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 02:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA03674; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:29:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:25:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA03454; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:25:40 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000901bf0d56$f5f9ca80$e5c62e9c@liebeno> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:20:36 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Turn Page Cc: "Terry" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Terry, you can use the "wait a moment" JavaScript. I don't have the code available right now, but the procedure is that in the initializing step you create two variables, "now" and "then". "now" is the current full date (which is a number representing milliseconds). The value of "then" is the initial value of "now" plus the waiting time. Then you set up a loop where you continuously update "now" and compare it with "then". You leave the loop when "now" is bigger than "then", and execute the turning page action. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >How can I have a PDF document open to the first page and wait about 10 to 15 >seconds and then turn to the next page. I have seen PDF documents do this >and I would like to implement this into a project I am working on. Thanks >in advance for any help on this. > >Terry > >terry@powerweb.net > > > >__________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ ><- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing >issues -> ><- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> >___________________________________________________________________ __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 9:30:43-GMT,2269;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07125 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07364; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:25:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:22:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07193; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:22:55 -0500 Message-ID: <37F720DC.D1EC99DF@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 11:24:44 +0200 From: "Lausseur.aalto" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Turn Page References: <000901bf0d56$f5f9ca80$e5c62e9c@liebeno> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a standard feature in full-screen mode; see File > Settings > Full-screen. In addition you can automate document opening into full-screen viewing. If you don't like full-screen, then try JavaScript, as proposed Max Wyss. Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant Terry a écrit : > How can I have a PDF document open to the first page and wait about 10 to 15 > seconds and then turn to the next page. I have seen PDF documents do this > and I would like to implement this into a project I am working on. Thanks > in advance for any help on this. __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 9:43:25-GMT,2831;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07326 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 03:43:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08256; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:39:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:36:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08074; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 04:36:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Turn Page Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:35:53 +0100 Message-ID: <003f01bf0d82$b018fb40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > you can use the "wait a moment" JavaScript. I don't have the > code available > right now, but the procedure is that in the initializing step > you create > two variables, "now" and "then". "now" is the current full > date (which is a > number representing milliseconds). The value of "then" is the > initial value > of "now" plus the waiting time. Then you set up a loop where you > continuously update "now" and compare it with "then". You > leave the loop > when "now" is bigger than "then", and execute the turning page action. Perhaps it's just me, but am I the only person to be appalled that this is apparently the only way to delay in JavaScript? Maybe it's because I was raised on mainframe computers that have to be shared between many users, where CPU costs money and wasting it is a crime... people would be thrown off the system for this sort of programming technique. This model still exists with things like Windows Terminal Server. Surely there's a better way to wait than to just loop until a time is reached? Aandi __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 11:06:25-GMT,3115;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08768 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 05:06:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13469; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 06:01:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 05:57:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13186; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 05:57:37 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003f01bf0d82$b018fb40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:52:28 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Turn Page Cc: "Aandi Inston" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi, guess what, I am appalled too, particularly as there are some commands in the JavaScript 1.2 specifications which would allow this. But, somehow the time-dependent parts of the specifications have not been implemented in the Acrobat JavaScript. IMHO, another one of the many points where someone stopped thinking at five to twelve. The big drawback is that while this loop is running, no other actions can. So, if one needs other actions to be performed within this time span, things can get a little bit complicated. The initialization would still be the same, but then any other subsequent action would have to check if the time has already elapsed. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Perhaps it's just me, but am I the only person to be appalled that >this is apparently the only way to delay in JavaScript? > >Maybe it's because I was raised on mainframe computers that >have to be shared between many users, where CPU costs money >and wasting it is a crime... people would be thrown off the >system for this sort of programming technique. > >This model still exists with things like Windows Terminal Server. >Surely there's a better way to wait than to just loop until >a time is reached? > __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 11:57:39-GMT,1925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09591 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 05:57:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16927; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 06:53:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 06:50:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16598; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 06:50:34 -0500 Message-ID: <37F74370.98175924@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 13:52:16 +0200 From: "Lausseur.aalto" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Turn Page References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Max Wyss a écrit : > Acrobat JavaScript. IMHO, another one of the many points where someone > stopped thinking at five to twelve. They have forgotten copy/paste for JavaScripts too, Max ... Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 15:01:48-GMT,2414;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12660 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:01:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29329; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:55:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:50:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28849; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:50:23 -0500 From: mpaz@intrieve.com Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:48:46 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks in Acrobat 4.0 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/222041504/222002932/222090653/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 132e" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA28845 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Can you copy bookmarks in one PDF to another PDF? These bookmarks are used to open other PDFs. I use them as "hook backs" to our menuing system. When PDFs are updated, we simply copy them into the subdirectory, ontop of the old copy. As the file names are the same, the menus that open (point to) the PDF don't need updates. But the hookbacks need to be recreated. Copying would sure speed up the process. Or is there an easier way? Thanks in advance. Lani ********************************** Intrieve Incorporated 312 Plum St. PO Box 5412 Cincinnati, OH 45201-5412 Voice.......(513) 381-9400 Fax.........(513) 381-9509 www.intrieve.com ********************************** __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 16:32:00-GMT,3168;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14314 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:31:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03932; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:24:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:20:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03467; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:20:28 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:20:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Turn Page From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991003161845.MMDC9655.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try this... for time delays, use Illustrator or Freehand, generate a gradiant or use Quark even. Set same colour, invisible if you like, then create this is PS file. Add to anypage before generating PS file to make a PDF, or keep as separate PDF, and just paste into any document at will. This can now be used as a small delay, as it must be drawn onto your screen. Varying lengths create varying delays. I've used this a fair bit to overcome many problems, especially when providing ideas to clients who are not that savvy with the software. When the drawing is done, away you go, and if done right, nothing will be seen. Of course the full screen mode is probably the simplest... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interst: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html ---------- > The big drawback is that while this loop is running, no other actions can. > So, if one needs other actions to be performed within this time span, > things can get a little bit complicated. The initialization would still be > the same, but then any other subsequent action would have to check if the > time has already elapsed. > __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 16:38:31-GMT,3110;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14430 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:38:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04664; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:34:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:30:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04245; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:30:06 -0500 Message-ID: <005501bf0dbc$8cc9a060$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] New Adobe Systems Web site design launched Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:30:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA04235 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It looks awesome ... but I wish they'd consider the fact that lots of site visitors are using a resolution that's 1024x768 (or highter) and centre their text/images instead instead of aligning stuff at the left. ----- Original Message ----- From: PDFzone Listowner To: ; ; ; Sent: October 3, 1999 12:12 PM Subject: [PDF] New Adobe Systems Web site design launched | | The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ | __________________________________________________________________ | | Looks like Adobe Systems has unveiled its new Web design; check | out the new look, for example, on the Acrobat homepage at: | | http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/main.html | | CONGRATS to the Adobe Web Team folks! | | -- PDFzone.com | | __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ | <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> | <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> | ___________________________________________________________________ | __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 20:27:44-GMT,2573;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18706 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21309; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:22:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:18:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20916; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:18:13 -0500 From: SandyHov@aol.com Message-ID: <32eaf648.252913f6@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:17:58 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks in Acrobat 4.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Instead of copying a whole new PDF (we'll call it A2.pdf) file over the old PDF file (we'll call it A1.pdf), try replacing pages from A1.pdf with the pages from A2.pdf. That keeps all the bookmarks in A1.pdf. If there are more pages in A2.pdf, Replace the existing pages in A1.pdf, then add the remaining pages of A2.pdf. If there are less pages in A2.pdf, replace the existing pages in A1.pdf, then delete remaining old pages from A1.pdf. If you have links within A1.pdf and A2.pdf that differ, this won't work as well. In this case, at the begining of the project (or wherever you are in the project now), create a template PDF that has all your bookmarks in it, but no links (content really doesn't matter), then when you have created A2.pdf (before creating links), replace pages in the template file with A2.pdf, then create the links. Other than that, I don't know of any way to copy bookmarks. If someone else does, I'd like to know. Sandy Hovatter Data Designs 440-427-1322 __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 21:14:06-GMT,3210;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19545 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:14:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24734; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:10:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:07:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24598; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:07:15 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01bf0de2$eb820540$ee191b3f@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks in Acrobat 4.0 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:04:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Compose has something called TOC builder which, as I recall, allows you to copy bookmarks from one file into another. -----Original Message----- From: mpaz@intrieve.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 8:02 AM Subject: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks in Acrobat 4.0 > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Can you copy bookmarks in one PDF to another PDF? These bookmarks are used to open other PDFs. I use them as "hook backs" to our menuing system. When PDFs are updated, we simply copy them into the subdirectory, ontop of the old copy. As the file names are the same, the menus that open (point to) the PDF don't need updates. But the hookbacks need to be recreated. Copying would sure speed up the process. Or is there an easier way? > >Thanks in advance. >Lani >********************************** > >Intrieve Incorporated >312 Plum St. >PO Box 5412 >Cincinnati, OH 45201-5412 > >Voice.......(513) 381-9400 >Fax.........(513) 381-9509 > >www.intrieve.com > >********************************** > > >__________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ ><- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> ><- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> >___________________________________________________________________ > __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 22:00:16-GMT,2406;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20390 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:00:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27985; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:51:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:48:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27723; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:48:09 -0500 Message-Id: <99Oct3.164655cdt.38407@firegate.facs.org> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:46:21 -0500 From: "Brent A. Blumenstein" Organization: American College of Surgeons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mailing List PDFZone Subject: [PDF] Silent PS to PDF conversion under NT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ How can I cause a PS file to be converted to a PDF file silently, that is, no status window? My hope is that there are some undocumented command line switches, or something like that. And I cannot use watched folders for this (too many). (Am turning into an old geeser when I complain about the general erosion of command line capabilities?) -- * * * NOTE CHANGES (3/20/99) * * * Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 312 202 5433 American College of Surgeons | fax: 312 202 5011 <--- NEW # 633 N. Saint Clair St. | cell: 206 390 0081 <--- NEW # Chicago, IL 60611-3211 USA | e-mail: bblumenstein@facs.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 22:58:45-GMT,2092;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21566 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00031; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:54:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:50:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA32401; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:50:50 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Silent PS to PDF conversion under NT Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:50:16 +0100 Message-ID: <004201bf0df1$aa3a7360$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <99Oct3.164655cdt.38407@firegate.facs.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > How can I cause a PS file to be converted to a PDF file silently, that > is, no status window? > > My hope is that there are some undocumented command line switches, or > something like that. The Distiller command line options are documented in the Acrobat SDK. Aandi __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1999 23:05:57-GMT,3040;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21750 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:05:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00600; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:01:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:59:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00402; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:59:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Turn Page Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:59:00 +0100 Message-ID: <004401bf0df2$e1cb3160$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <19991003161845.MMDC9655.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Try this... for time delays, use Illustrator or Freehand, generate a > gradiant or use Quark even. Set same colour, invisible if > you like, then > create this is PS file. Add to anypage before generating PS > file to make a > PDF, or keep as separate PDF, and just paste into any > document at will. This > can now be used as a small delay, as it must be drawn onto > your screen. > Varying lengths create varying delays. I've used this a fair bit to > overcome many problems, especially when providing ideas to > clients who are > not that savvy with the software. When the drawing is done, > away you go, > and if done right, nothing will be seen. Of course the full > screen mode is > probably the simplest... Interesting idea but I see a couple of problems. 1. The delay is dependent on the machine in use. Not just the CPU speed but also the video card. It reminds me of some early games and typing tutors for the PC. They were based on the original PC's speed, and became impossible to use as machines speeded up. Ok for a specific presentation of course. 2. Acrobat may choose to render the next page "off screen" while you are looking at the current one, and so the scroll delay may be gone. Aandi __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1999 1:11:29-GMT,3526;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24099 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:11:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10128; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:04:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:02:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09981; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:02:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:02:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Turn Page From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991004010052.STSJ9655.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yup, but its a solution, and for many its OK, I like using transitions myself, and set the exact time in the PS file... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interst: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html ---------- >> Try this... for time delays, use Illustrator or Freehand, generate a >> gradiant or use Quark even. Set same colour, invisible if >> you like, then >> create this is PS file. Add to anypage before generating PS >> file to make a >> PDF, or keep as separate PDF, and just paste into any >> document at will. This >> can now be used as a small delay, as it must be drawn onto >> your screen. >> Varying lengths create varying delays. I've used this a fair bit to >> overcome many problems, especially when providing ideas to >> clients who are >> not that savvy with the software. When the drawing is done, >> away you go, >> and if done right, nothing will be seen. Of course the full >> screen mode is >> probably the simplest... > > Interesting idea but I see a couple of problems. > > 1. The delay is dependent on the machine in use. Not just the > CPU speed but also the video card. It reminds me of some early > games and typing tutors for the PC. They were based on the original > PC's speed, and became impossible to use as machines speeded up. > Ok for a specific presentation of course. > > 2. Acrobat may choose to render the next page "off screen" while > you are looking at the current one, and so the scroll delay may > be gone. > > Aandi __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1999 1:15:23-GMT,1773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24195 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:15:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10606; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:11:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:10:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10482; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:10:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991003210723.007442d4@drtax.ca> X-Sender: george@drtax.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:07:23 -0400 To: From: George Farkas Subject: [PDF] indexing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What is the best way to create an index to a long PDF document? I refer not to an electronic index, but to an index referring to page numbers in a printed PDF doc. george __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1999 21:32:03-GMT,2013;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22482 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11272; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:23:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:18:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10696; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:18:08 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: b0832e76-507b-11d1-9cee-00e0290993bc Message-ID: <9D382A8E9E25D3118A4A00E02929C25F3A337A@TFSMAMSG4> From: "Stabile, Jay" To: Subject: [PDF] Exporting PDF to text with layout? Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:55:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1BE7CC5F267678-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Has anyone worked with a good utility to convert PDF to formatted text? Extraction is fine for text search, etc., but I'm looking for a tool that would export text and tables into some sort of layout, with approximate spacing, etc. Thanks, Jay -------------------------------- jay.stabile@tfn.com __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1999 22:05:38-GMT,3670;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23375 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:05:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15110; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:59:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:57:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14979; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:57:24 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991004145807.009faf00@216.216.8.132> X-Sender: sulojana@216.216.8.132 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:01:17 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sulojana R Blows Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting PDF to text with layout? In-Reply-To: <9D382A8E9E25D3118A4A00E02929C25F3A337A@TFSMAMSG4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_27589288==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_27589288==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Jay Try Drake on the www.bcl-computers.com age It does a good job of converting entire PDF files to RTF and maintains the links and spacing / alignment. Sulojana ____ >Has anyone worked with a good utility to convert PDF to formatted text? >Extraction is fine for text search, etc., but I'm looking for a tool that >would export text and tables into some sort of layout, with approximate >spacing, etc. > >Thanks, Jay ============================== Sulojana R Blows Marketing Director BCL Computers 10 E. Juniper Avenue Flagstaff, AZ 86001 fax: 408.249.4046 voice: 520.774.8059 www.bcl-computers.com mailto: sulojana@bcl-computers.com --=====================_27589288==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Jay

Try Drake on the www.bcl-computers.com age

It does a good job of converting entire PDF files to RTF and maintains the links and spacing / alignment.

Sulojana
____

Has anyone worked with a good utility to convert PDF to formatted text?
Extraction is fine for text search, etc., but I'm looking for a tool that
would export text and tables into some sort of layout, with approximate
spacing, etc.

Thanks, Jay

==============================
Sulojana R Blows
Marketing Director
BCL Computers
10 E. Juniper Avenue
Flagstaff, AZ 86001
fax: 408.249.4046
voice: 520.774.8059

www.bcl-computers.com
mailto: sulojana@bcl-computers.com
 --=====================_27589288==_.ALT-- __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1999 22:06:22-GMT,2010;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23381 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:06:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15430; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:01:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:00:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15234; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:00:33 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991004175440.0159c6b0@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 17:59:05 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks in Acrobat 4.0 In-Reply-To: <199910042118.QAA10721@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Lani and Sandy, Ari's Bookmark Tool from Dionis will copy all of the bookmarks from the current PDF file into all of the PDF files inside a folder that you choose. Download a demo from: http://www.dionis.com/demo/abtdemob.html Ari's Bookmark Tool Demo Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1999 22:44:35-GMT,1761;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24256 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:44:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18514; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:39:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:37:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18355; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:37:23 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SYBEX From: "Bill Gibson" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com Message-ID: <88256800.007CAF63.00@sybex.com> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:28:34 -0700 Subject: [PDF] PDF pre-press list serve? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Group, I thought I saw an e-mail address for a PDF Pre-press list serve somewhere. Is there such a list? If so, could someone provide me with the address through which I could sign up? Thanks __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1999 23:07:01-GMT,2286;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24830 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:06:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20361; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:01:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:59:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20200; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:59:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199910042259.PAA21238@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:59:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF pre-press list serve? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I thought I saw an e-mail address for a PDF Pre-press list serve somewhere. > Is there such a list? If so, could someone provide me with the address > through which I could sign up? Try: http://www.infomania.com/pdf-prepress-l/ Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1999 23:23:13-GMT,2618;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25247 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:23:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21718; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:17:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:16:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21602; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:16:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199910042316.RAA17607@net.indra.com> From: "Michael P. Thompson" Organization: The Resource Center for Associations To: "Bill Gibson" , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:07:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF pre-press list serve? In-reply-to: <88256800.007CAF63.00@sybex.com> X-LINE1: ABCDEF0123456789 X-PM-Encryptor: QDPGP, 4 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Oct 99, at 15:28, Bill Gibson wrote: > I thought I saw an e-mail address for a PDF Pre-press list serve > somewhere. Is there such a list? If so, could someone provide me with the > address through which I could sign up? It's run by the very same fine folks who run this list. Send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: subscribe pdf-prepress-l -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: Public key: iQA/AwUBN/kzJfK9hc/UFrvDEQLS9QCghSZ7iCnwTZKP/pFa3scSBhLwn9sAoKLa fO6W1Rx1dc6p55wUIRlkzdit =Ptdu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ******Michael P. Thompson****** ****Director of Communications*** ***thompson@resourcenter.com*** __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 4:20:55-GMT,2830;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01848 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11958; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:12:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:10:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11721; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:10:23 -0500 Message-ID: <006601bf0ee7$3cfb4e40$ac34193f@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting PDF to text with layout? Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:08:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've used Forte (BCL), but I understand that it's no longer available. Also, RedWing does a good job - but it's expensive. SueG -----Original Message----- From: Stabile, Jay To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 2:55 PM Subject: [PDF] Exporting PDF to text with layout? > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Has anyone worked with a good utility to convert PDF to formatted text? >Extraction is fine for text search, etc., but I'm looking for a tool that >would export text and tables into some sort of layout, with approximate >spacing, etc. > >Thanks, Jay > >-------------------------------- >jay.stabile@tfn.com > > >__________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ ><- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> ><- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> >___________________________________________________________________ > __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 5:47:20-GMT,3385;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03544 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:47:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17906; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 00:41:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 00:39:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17738; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 00:39:07 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991004223424.00bf0d40@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 22:37:33 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Printer Recommendations on Windows side Cc: "Schiff, Kenny" In-Reply-To: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA278C266F@mars.rauland.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10/1/99 03:52 PM , Schiff, Kenny wrote: >We've moved a lot of our paper products to PDF and our customers are still >needing to print these out at a reasonable quality. We're outputting >whenever possible to the "print optimized" settings. Can someone recommend >good business class printers that will handle both gray scale stuff (most >stuff) but also color. I'm curious to here people's recommendations (inkjet >vs. laser). We have an HP4M Plus which is OK, but not great for PDFs, also a >5M, also and Epson Stylus 3000 (good results). I'm reluctant to recommend >the 3000 because it's expensive to run and relatively slow. Speed is >important, but quality is more important. My customers are small businesses >(20-50 staff) who won't be using this for their everyday, but when they need >to send presentations to customers. The pieces they will send are a mix of >text and photos. I'd be also curious as to people's recommendations for >paper. > >Any thoughts would be appreciated. > >Kenny Schiff >Technology Marketing Solutions Kenny, Just interested, but although I understand that you want color, what is "OK, but not great for PDFs" about the HP LaserJet 4M Plus (and the 5M) assuming that you don't expect color from a monochrome printer. Neither of these printers should have any problem whatsoever with PDF files. They were both exceptionally high quality, reliable printers with Adobe PostScript Level 2 with no known problems with PDF files. - Dov __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 7:49:25-GMT,1853;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06206 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:49:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25561; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:42:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:39:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25328; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:39:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:38:38 -0400 From: MICHAEL GORDON Subject: [PDF] Exporting PDF to text with layout? To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199910050338_MC2-87A6-2FE1@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA25324 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Jay< Look at a product called Iceni, called Gemini. Mike Gordon __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 9:01:54-GMT,2759;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07530 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:01:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA30179; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:55:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:50:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29763; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:50:51 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:47:56 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks in Acrobat 4.0 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In message , mpaz@intrieve.com wrote: >Can you copy bookmarks in one PDF to another PDF? These bookmarks are used to >open other PDFs. I use them as "hook backs" to our menuing system. When PDFs >are updated, we simply copy them into the subdirectory, ontop of the old copy. >As the file names are the same, the menus that open (point to) the PDF don't >need updates. But the hookbacks need to be recreated. Copying would sure speed >up the process. Or is there an easier way? Yes, our Options plug-in does this with its Copy Hyperfeatures function under the Advanced options. See our web site for details, or contact me directly. Regards David Evans --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 13:53:52-GMT,2038;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12871 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:53:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18427; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:46:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:44:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18232; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:44:09 -0500 From: scottabel@cybertek.com Message-Id: <9910059391.AA939131106@cc.pmsc.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.01 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 99 08:42:25 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] Converting Powerpoint to PDF with Links MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know how I might convert a PowerPoint presentation to pdf without losing the links contained in the original PowerPoint presentation??? I have tried a variety of approaches and have been unable to generate a pdf that includes bookmarked text, links, etc. Help! I'm used to the ease of converting Adobe FrameMaker files to pdf ... Thanks in advance. SCOTT ABEL Nims Associates @ Cybertek scottabel@cybertek.com 317-704-7527 __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 15:54:47-GMT,3055;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15920 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29928; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:47:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:43:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29525; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:43:10 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 11:43:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting Powerpoint to PDF with Links From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991005154127.HFSL9280.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Scott, Do you desire to do so, because you are converting old files to PDF? If not, why try to do something that would be simple in PDF after conversion. Most of my clients are doing similar things as to what you seem to be doing, and this approach works very well. It is a much more efficient workflow, besides, I don't know of many plug-ins or vendors that wish to support PowerPoint. Most people are using it to generate certain things, then convert to PDF, then adding functionality, that can be easily edited.. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interst: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html ---------- > Does anyone know how I might convert a PowerPoint presentation to pdf without > losing the links contained in the original PowerPoint presentation??? > > I have tried a variety of approaches and have been unable to generate a pdf that > includes bookmarked text, links, etc. Help! I'm used to the ease of converting > Adobe FrameMaker files to pdf ... __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 15:56:33-GMT,2825;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15947 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:55:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30117; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:49:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:47:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29965; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:47:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9910059391.AA939131106@cc.pmsc.com> References: <9910059391.AA939131106@cc.pmsc.com> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:43:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting Powerpoint to PDF with Links Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA29961 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 8:42 AM -0500 10/5/99, scottabel@cybertek.com wrote: >Does anyone know how I might convert a PowerPoint presentation to pdf without >losing the links contained in the original PowerPoint presentation??? If you are running on Windows, Acrobat 4 will install something called PDFMaker into your PowerPoint application (Acro3 only did it for Word & Excel, PP support is new to 4) that will do it quite nicely! So if you're still at Acrobat 3 - upgrade. If you're on the Mac, unfortunately, there isn't a good solution :(. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 16:06:10-GMT,2375;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16291 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:06:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31208; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:58:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:57:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31065; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:57:29 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C15@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Powerpoint to PDF with Links Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:57:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Adobe PDFMaker 4.0 is only compatible with PowerPoint 97 or later, I might add... Gary Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com mailto:gadecke@wcnoc.com > ---------- > From: Leonard Rosenthol[SMTP:leonardr@lazerware.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 10:43 AM > Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting Powerpoint to PDF with Links > > If you are running on Windows, Acrobat 4 will install > something called PDFMaker into your PowerPoint application (Acro3 > only did it for Word & Excel, PP support is new to 4) that will do it > quite nicely! So if you're still at Acrobat 3 - upgrade. If you're > on the Mac, unfortunately, there isn't a good solution :(. > __________ * C O M I N G S O O N to http://www.PDFzone.com/ * _________ <- Contributing writer Rich Sprague has been exploring font licensing issues -> <- Watch this week for "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs -- The Scoop" -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 20:25:02-GMT,2735;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23403 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:25:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24974; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:13:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:10:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24594; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:10:27 -0500 Message-ID: <37FA5D14.5EB35865@cms-stl.com> Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 15:18:28 -0500 From: "Peggy Schillinger" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Drops Equation Symbols? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone have experience with equations not being PDFed properly out of Word 97 (NT4/sp5)? I have tried to correct a problem of the summation symbol (sort of a large, angular "E") and the integral symbol (like a flowing "f") disappearing during the PDF creation even though they are properly displayed in Word. These files were originally written in WordPerfect and were converted to Word a few years ago--any formatting problem I've had with these files can usually be traced to WP-to-Word conversion. I have changed the Word font and even re-entered the equations. Over the weekend I got so frustrated that I downloaded the MathType equation editor and converted the equations to MathType, but the PDF version still drops out these symbols. If you have had experience with this problem, can you suggest a workaround? Thanks in advance for your thoughts and help... Peggy Schillinger ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peggy Schillinger STC St. Louis Employment Referral Service Manager Lead Technical Writer Computerized Medical Systems, Inc. peggy@cms-stl.com 314-812-4315 fax: 314-993-0075 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 20:40:23-GMT,2428;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23788 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:40:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26682; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:30:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:29:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26530; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:29:09 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C1C@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'" , "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Default PDF viewing application in IE5 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:29:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I recently had Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 installed on my Windows NT 4.0 desktop. At the time, I had Acrobat 4.0 installed, but had not installed the Reader. Since that time, I had the Reader installed, and made it my default application for viewing PDF files in NT. Today, opening a PDF file in IE5, Acrobat launches, instead of the Reader, when the file appears in the IE5 window. I know either will work, but it takes slightly more time (and resources, I'm sure) to launch Acrobat rather than the Reader. How do I change the file association in IE5 so that the Reader launches instead of Acrobat? Gary Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com mailto:gadecke@wcnoc.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 21:00:09-GMT,3128;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24354 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:00:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29133; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:52:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:50:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28922; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:50:31 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C1D@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Drops Equation Symbols? Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:50:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The characters you mention (the summation symbol is called "sigma," the integral symbol is called "integrand") are included in Windows' Symbol font. I had them disappear from a document once, so I embedded the Symbol font and had no problems from that point on. Gary Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com mailto:gadecke@wcnoc.com > ---------- > From: Peggy Schillinger[SMTP:peggy@cms-stl.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 3:18 PM > Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Drops Equation Symbols? > > Does anyone have experience with equations not being PDFed properly > out > of Word 97 (NT4/sp5)? > > I have tried to correct a problem of the summation symbol (sort of a > large, angular "E") and the integral symbol (like a flowing "f") > disappearing during the PDF creation even though they are properly > displayed in Word. These files were originally written in WordPerfect > and were converted to Word a few years ago--any formatting problem > I've > had with these files can usually be traced to WP-to-Word conversion. > > I have changed the Word font and even re-entered the equations. Over > the > weekend I got so frustrated that I downloaded the MathType equation > editor and converted the equations to MathType, but the PDF version > still drops out these symbols. > > If you have had experience with this problem, can you suggest a > workaround? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and help... > > Peggy Schillinger > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1999 21:12:42-GMT,2687;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24724 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:12:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31100; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:07:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:06:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30867; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:05:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199910052105.OAA14008@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 14:05:51 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDF-PP-L] TrueType Embedding flags From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I, too, would be interested in seeing if there is a list of embed or not. > All MS-provided fonts are embeddable. AFAIK Bitstream are not (These are > unbiquitous, being bundled with Corel and a variety of other apps) I have written an extensive article on this *very* interesting subject which will be up tomorrow at http://www.pdfzone.com. If anyone has the names of any foundries which do not allow embedding, or the names of individual fonts which are restricted, or you believe to be restricted, please e-mail me privately. Thanks. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 2:59:33-GMT,2234;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02683 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:59:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA31778; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:59:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:53:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA31263; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:53:53 -0500 From: slu@cbsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CLAREMONT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256802.00102ECB.00@CBSBVTLN01.clmt.com> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:44:18 -0400 Subject: [PDFdev] Write a program to join/append multiple PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm aware that there're commercial products, such as Compose, that can join/append multiple PDF files to become a single PDF file. However, what I actually need is a lot more simple than what Compose can provide and besides, I need it run as a line command, such that it can even be called upon from other programs. For example, Prompt> JOIN in1.pdf in2.pdf out.pdf Because I don't need any further manipulation of the output, I feel it shouldn't be too difficult to write such program in C/C++, Perl, or VB/Script. Any pointers will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -- Steve (stevelu@cbsinc.com) __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 3:05:49-GMT,2232;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02849 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:05:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA31641; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:58:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:53:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA31247; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:53:52 -0500 From: slu@cbsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CLAREMONT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256802.00102ECB.00@CBSBVTLN01.clmt.com> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:44:18 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Write a program to join/append multiple PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm aware that there're commercial products, such as Compose, that can join/append multiple PDF files to become a single PDF file. However, what I actually need is a lot more simple than what Compose can provide and besides, I need it run as a line command, such that it can even be called upon from other programs. For example, Prompt> JOIN in1.pdf in2.pdf out.pdf Because I don't need any further manipulation of the output, I feel it shouldn't be too difficult to write such program in C/C++, Perl, or VB/Script. Any pointers will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -- Steve (stevelu@cbsinc.com) __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 3:28:46-GMT,1743;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03320 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:28:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01240; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:22:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:20:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01080; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:20:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991005231730.02075044@drtax.ca> X-Sender: george@drtax.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 23:17:30 -0400 To: From: George Farkas Subject: [PDF] indexing part 2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I was able to build an index to a PDF file using Catalog (or so catalog says). How can I view the index and add it to the original PDF file? george __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 3:38:15-GMT,2354;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03504 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:38:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02181; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:32:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:31:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01979; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:31:17 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389535644@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Write a program to join/append multiple PDF files Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:30:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve, Check out CodeCuts (http://www.codecuts.com) They have example code for this sort of stuff. I am actually finishing of a program which will allow you to merge PDF's ... Should be finished in a month. I hadn't though about the command line tho, perhaps it's worth adding? Dave..... ------------ > I'm aware that there're commercial products, such as Compose, that can > join/append multiple PDF files to become a single PDF file. However, what > I > actually need is a lot more simple than what Compose can provide and > besides, I > need it run as a line command, such that it can even be called upon from > other > programs. For example, > > Prompt> JOIN in1.pdf in2.pdf out.pdf ------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 3:44:03-GMT,2889;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03606 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:44:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02671; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:38:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:36:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02481; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:36:57 -0500 Message-ID: <37FAC330.63A11CC9@dconstructs.com> Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 23:34:08 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] indexing part 2 References: <3.0.3.32.19991005231730.02075044@drtax.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Go into Acrobat or Reader with Search and click on the book with Binoculars icon. After that, hit Indexes on the prompt and then go to the location where the index file is and hit add. (It has a .pdx extension.) Once the index is loaded, enter in the terms you want to search for. HTH R. Moran George Farkas wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I was able to build an index to a PDF file using Catalog (or so catalog > says). > How can I view the index and add it to the original PDF file? > > george > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> > <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> > ___________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 6:06:07-GMT,2512;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06629 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:06:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12841; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:57:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:56:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12728; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:56:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199910060556.WAA10162@pacific.net> Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Powerpoint to PDF with Links Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:00:08 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Chuck Dahmer To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Regarding your message of 10/5/99 6:53 PM... 10/5/99, scottabel@cybertek.com wrote: >>Does anyone know how I might convert a PowerPoint presentation to pdf without >>losing the links contained in the original PowerPoint presentation??? To which Leonard Rosenthol replied: > If you are running on Windows, Acrobat 4 will install >something called PDFMaker into your PowerPoint application (Acro3 >only did it for Word & Excel, PP support is new to 4) that will do it >quite nicely! So if you're still at Acrobat 3 - upgrade. If you're >on the Mac, unfortunately, there isn't a good solution :(. PDFMaker for the Mac is now available at Abobe's lovely new Web site. So far, my experience with it has been buggy. Also: I wasn't using it with PowerPoint. Nonetheless, I believe you would want to add the links *after* the PDF document is created. C. Chuck Dahmer ------- chuckd@pacific.net __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 6:20:22-GMT,4721;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06931 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:20:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13648; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 01:08:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 01:07:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13573; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 01:07:23 -0500 From: HZingel@aol.com Message-ID: <0.a5cf0a4.252c4109@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 02:07:05 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Drops Equation Symbols? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: peggy@cms-stl.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 41 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, > Does anyone have experience with equations not being PDFed properly out > of Word 97 (NT4/sp5)? This prob is not new. I am authoring an accounting and controlling encyclopedia that is full of formulas and from time to time I do have probs with disappearing letters, but *not only* sigma symbols or the like tend to disappear but also the symbols of variables, indexes and the like, that is, elements in TimesNewRoman or similar embeddable fonts. In short, all elements get hit from time to time. I am using W98 /w Adobe PageMaker 6.5, and the Microsoft formula editor (not MathType) but also had the problems previously under W95 and PageMaker 5 and 6. The problem is known to me under Acrobat 3 and 4. These are my observations and workarounds: * When I make a new, updated version of the same paper or document (in the case of my controlling encyclopedia, this happens every week or so), a formula that has been there for months (if not years) may suddenly disappear or get damaged without being touched or edited in any way * There are two types of damages happening to formulas: *either* the whole text with all of its elements is reduced to the lowest few pixels (that is, you see a sort of dotted line or so composed of the bases of all letters), *or* all letters of the same type or format collectively disappear, leaving blank spaces inbetween (for instance, all italics, all subscript or so). * Damages in formulas never come with any visible damage in the rest of the text. The prob only applies to formula objects. * All damages are formula-wide but not accross different formulas not even on the same page. One formula may get hit by the prob while all others on the same page and in the same PDF are still perfectly OK. * When adding new material in the same document *before* the damaged formula, the formula may be restored in the PDF, but then the damage may move elsewhere. It seems that the damage is a feature that is formula-independent and only hits a specific mathematical element when some other (unknown) condition is met * I cannot restore a formula by stretching, re-typing or re-pasting it * I CAN restore a formula by duplicating the entire document and then deleting everything but the page with the damaged element. When I create a PDF from this one-page-patch, it is usually ok. I can then insert such page into the actual PDF and this fixes the problem. * The frequency of this problem is very low: I currently have 2 damaged formulas in 849 pages, and none in over 1000 pages of smaller works. * The frequency rises with the size op the source file. It is even lower (next to zero) in small files, but in one case I had a 700-page-file that weas full of such damaged formulas. When I split that up in small elements to be combined using Acrobat (3 or 4), all formulas were restored at once. I hope this can help. Since I am new to the list, I am not sure whether I may send example PDF files. If anyone wants to see any example, I'll sent ony by private email. Harry Zingel HZingel@aol.com http://www.zingel.de PGP 6.0.2i PUBLIC KEY AVAILABLE! __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 9:19:03-GMT,3786;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10120 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 03:19:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA25439; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 04:09:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 04:03:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25079; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 04:03:00 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:02:03 +0200 From: Beretta Roberto Subject: RE: [PDF] Write a program to join/append multiple PDF files To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <9187FF572943D211B28100805FC130FC012628DC@xrr1.cselt.it> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA25075 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you use Acorbat on Unix platform, you can launch Distiller from command line. We've mixed the features to build a single PDF using Distiller, starting from a list of Postscript file and a freeware shell program calles "PFD2PS" that convert PDF to Postscript file. Using simply a shell or other script languages (like Perl or TCL) we've been able to write a program that build a single PDF starting from multiple PDF files. It seems a very complex way but it works everiday ! Roberto Beretta CSELT SPA Centro Studi e Laboratori Telecomunicazioni SpA Network and Computer System and Services Document Management System Via G. Reiss Romoli 274 10148 Torino Italy tel. +39 011 2285015 fax +39 011 2287185 -----Original Message----- From: slu@cbsinc.com [mailto:slu@cbsinc.com] Sent: mercoledě 6 ottobre 1999 4.44 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Write a program to join/append multiple PDF files The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm aware that there're commercial products, such as Compose, that can join/append multiple PDF files to become a single PDF file. However, what I actually need is a lot more simple than what Compose can provide and besides, I need it run as a line command, such that it can even be called upon from other programs. For example, Prompt> JOIN in1.pdf in2.pdf out.pdf Because I don't need any further manipulation of the output, I feel it shouldn't be too difficult to write such program in C/C++, Perl, or VB/Script. Any pointers will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -- Steve (stevelu@cbsinc.com) __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 9:56:32-GMT,3077;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10776 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 03:56:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28088; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 04:48:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 04:46:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27941; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 04:46:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "HIWATASHI, HELIO (MED,ID TKY JP )" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Default PDF viewing application in IE5 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:51:07 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Have you tried unloading the registry? http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/98fe.htm Helio Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:29:04 -0500 From: Decker Gary E Subject: [PDF] Default PDF viewing application in IE5 The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I recently had Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 installed on my Windows NT 4.0 desktop. At the time, I had Acrobat 4.0 installed, but had not installed the Reader. Since that time, I had the Reader installed, and made it my default application for viewing PDF files in NT. Today, opening a PDF file in IE5, Acrobat launches, instead of the Reader, when the file appears in the IE5 window. I know either will work, but it takes slightly more time (and resources, I'm sure) to launch Acrobat rather than the Reader. How do I change the file association in IE5 so that the Reader launches instead of Acrobat? Gary Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com mailto:gadecke@wcnoc.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 10:33:49-GMT,3099;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11322 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 04:23:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA30166; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:17:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:15:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA30005; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:15:40 -0500 Message-ID: <37FB2227.C846363F@hursley.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:19:19 +0100 From: Stephen Woolley Organization: IBM United Kingdom Laboratories X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: ibm.ibmpc.acrobat To: PDF List CC: evans@uk.ibm.com, harts@uk.ibm.com Subject: [PDF] Linking from PDF to local JavaDoc HTML files on AIX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Folks, We have currently run up against a problem using Acrobat on AIX. When linking to a local JavaDoc HTML file from a PDF, the AIX box tried to execute the HTML file rather than invoking Netscape and opening the local JavaDoc HTML file in Netscape! The PDF file was created in Acrobat 4 running on Windows NT 4 Workstation and we are using an "Open File" link because the World Wide Web Link will not work with local file URLs (e.g. file:///...). The document links worked fine when we tested it on Windows but as soon as we shifted the whole lot onto AIX it barfed. Is this anything to do with the fact that unlike Windows, AIX has no concept of associating applications with files? Has anybody else experienced this? Many thanks for any information you can provide us with. Cheers, Steve ______________________________________________________________________ Stephen Woolley - UCD Specialist / Acrobat Evangelist MQSeries for OS/390 User Centered Design Mail Point 095, IBM United Kingdom Laboratories, Hursley Park, Winchester, Hampshire, SO21 2JN, United Kingdom http://www.hursley.ibm.com/ swoolley@hursley.ibm.com Steve Woolley/UK/IBM@IBMGB swoolley@uk.ibm.com Tel: +44 (0)1962 818428 Fax: +44 (0)1962 870229 ______________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 10:57:20-GMT,3697;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11902 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 04:57:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA32622; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:52:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:50:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA32379; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:50:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991006064736.0073ed50@drtax.ca> X-Sender: george@drtax.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 06:47:36 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: George Farkas Subject: Re: [PDF] indexing part 2 In-Reply-To: <37FAC330.63A11CC9@dconstructs.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19991005231730.02075044@drtax.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thank you. Is this only an electronic index for searching or can it be included with the PDF documents, to be printed as part of the document itself with reference to the page numbers. If not can the list of words indexed be viewed as a file? Where is that list?(filename?) george At 11:34 PM 10/5/1999 -0400, you wrote: > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Go into Acrobat or Reader with Search and click on the book with Binoculars icon. >After that, hit Indexes on the prompt and then go to the location where the index >file is and hit add. (It has a .pdx extension.) Once the index is loaded, enter in >the terms you want to search for. > >HTH > >R. Moran > >George Farkas wrote: > >> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> I was able to build an index to a PDF file using Catalog (or so catalog >> says). >> How can I view the index and add it to the original PDF file? >> >> george >> >> __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ >> <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> >> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >-- >Robert E. Moran >Digital Constructs Inc. >759 North Park Avenue >Redding, CT 06896 >Tel 203-452-1116 >203-452-8085 >Fax: 203-452-0416 >E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com >http://www.dconstructs.com >"Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller > > > >__________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ ><- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> > <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> >___________________________________________________________________ > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 12:47:17-GMT,2908;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13847 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 06:47:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08448; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:40:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:38:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08175; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:38:49 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C1F@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Default PDF viewing application in IE5 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:38:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ No; unfortunately, I don't have administrator access in NT. I would have to put in a request to have someone from our desktop group to fix it, and it could take days or weeks. I thought maybe there was an easier way to fix file associations in IE5. Seems like there used to be (or was that when I was using Netscape? :-) Thanks. > ---------- > From: HIWATASHI, HELIO (MED,ID TKY JP > )[SMTP:HELIO.HIWATASHI@gemsa.med.ge.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 4:51 AM > Subject: RE: [PDF] Default PDF viewing application in IE5 > > Have you tried unloading the registry? > http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/98fe.htm > > Helio > > I recently had Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 installed on my > Windows NT > 4.0 desktop. At the time, I had Acrobat 4.0 installed, but had > not > installed the Reader. Since that time, I had the Reader > installed, and > made it my default application for viewing PDF files in NT. > > Today, opening a PDF file in IE5, Acrobat launches, instead of > the > Reader, when the file appears in the IE5 window. I know either > will > work, but it takes slightly more time (and resources, I'm sure) > to > launch Acrobat rather than the Reader. How do I change the file > association in IE5 so that the Reader launches instead of > Acrobat? > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 14:07:30-GMT,3410;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15470 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16191; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:55:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:53:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15986; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:53:13 -0500 Message-Id: <99Oct6.085149cdt.38407@firegate.facs.org> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:51:31 -0500 From: "Brent A. Blumenstein" Organization: American College of Surgeons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Write a program to join/append multiple PDF files References: <1978881894@FACS.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Connand line capabilities are always very useful. Please do a command line capability. pdf@lists.pdfzone.com wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Steve, > > Check out CodeCuts (http://www.codecuts.com) They have example code for this > sort of stuff. > > I am actually finishing of a program which will allow you to merge PDF's ... > Should be finished in a month. I hadn't though about the command line tho, > perhaps it's worth adding? > > Dave..... > ------------ > > I'm aware that there're commercial products, such as Compose, that can > > join/append multiple PDF files to become a single PDF file. However, what > > I > > actually need is a lot more simple than what Compose can provide and > > besides, I > > need it run as a line command, such that it can even be called upon from > > other > > programs. For example, > > > > Prompt> JOIN in1.pdf in2.pdf out.pdf > ------------- > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms - > > > <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> > ___________________________________________________________________ -- * * * NOTE CHANGES (3/20/99) * * * Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 312 202 5433 American College of Surgeons | fax: 312 202 5011 <--- NEW # 633 N. Saint Clair St. | cell: 206 390 0081 <--- NEW # Chicago, IL 60611-3211 USA | e-mail: bblumenstein@facs.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 14:56:33-GMT,2320;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16728 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:56:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22901; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:44:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:42:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22433; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:42:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] indexing part 2 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:41:36 +0100 Message-ID: <009b01bf1008$e4a27ca0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991006064736.0073ed50@drtax.ca> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Thank you. Is this only an electronic index for searching or can it be > included with the PDF documents, to be printed as part of the document > itself with reference to the page numbers. If not can the > list of words > indexed be viewed as a file? Where is that list?(filename?) Catalogs can only be used for searching. The catalog is not one file, but a large collection of them for efficient searching of very large amounts of data. You can't get information out of them to build an index (or rather, concordance). Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 15:00:51-GMT,2767;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16887 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:00:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25001; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:53:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:52:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24706; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:52:40 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1F55@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks in Acrobat 4.0 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:48:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Can you copy bookmarks in one PDF to another PDF? You can use Visual Basic (or VBA) and Acrobat IAC to do this sort of thing very easily. As a small example of what you can do, with the help of Rob Shepherd, another regular on this list, I have put together a MS Access database that will propagate the bookmarks contained in one particular file to an entire directory of files. While an interesting and helpful tool, you can feel free to pick apart the code and make it do backflips if you so care. It is yours to use and abuse, absolutely free of charge. You can download it at http://www.bignow.brinet.net/freetools/acrobat/PropagateBookmarks.zip (43KB) For more info on the exciting world of IAC programming (it's incredibly easy), check out http://www.codecuts.com There are so many great tips on this site, I can't even begin to describe what a wonderful resource it is. ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 15:10:21-GMT,2150;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17213 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:10:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26225; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:02:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:00:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25835; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:00:07 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 10:59:55 -0400 From: "Lavelle, James (FUSA)" Subject: [PDF] Using Adobe Catalog Index over Intranet? To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible to use the Adobe Catalog Index search function over a company Intranet? We have our files on an NT Server in a single directory for the Intranet. Of course, that is where our Catalog index file resides. Can our Intranet users add that index to their copy of Acrobat Reader with Search even though they do not have access rights to this directory or server except for view only through the Intranet? If so, how? TIA Jim LaVelle Senior Technical Writer JamesLavelle@FirstUSA.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 15:36:37-GMT,2133;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17895 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:36:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29217; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:26:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:24:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28992; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:24:18 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Using Adobe Catalog Index over Intranet? Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:23:37 +0100 Message-ID: <009d01bf100e$c38abfe0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is it possible to use the Adobe Catalog Index search function > over a company > Intranet? No. (Not if it is a true intranet using web technology; some people use the term for a system based on other kinds of file sharing) You would need to install a search engine on the web server. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 17:20:22-GMT,2047;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21063 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:20:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10339; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:10:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:08:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10121; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:08:11 -0500 Message-ID: <37FB8249.253C643D@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 01:09:29 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Title appearing on Acrobat window title bar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, does anyone know why sometimes the filename of the PDF file appears as a title in the Acrobat window title bar and at other times, the Title of the document (doc info) appears instead. ie. Adobe Acrobat - [filename.pdf] vs. Adobe Acrobat - [Title] With some documents, when I give a title to the document using File->Document Info, the Title appears, but with others, the filename stays. Thanks in advance for any replies. Jo Leong __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 17:54:16-GMT,3760;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22102 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:54:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15489; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:47:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:46:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15315; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:46:35 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 13:46:30 -0400 From: "Lavelle, James (FUSA)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Using Adobe Catalog Index over Intranet? To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks Bob Could you elaborate on how this can be done? > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert E. Moran [SMTP:remoran@dconstructs.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 1:40 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Adobe Catalog Index over Intranet? > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Yes, absolutely. > > HTH > > Bob Moran > > "Lavelle, James (FUSA)" wrote: > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Is it possible to use the Adobe Catalog Index search function over a > company > > Intranet? > > > > We have our files on an NT Server in a single directory for the > Intranet. Of > > course, that is where our Catalog index file resides. Can our Intranet > > users add that index to their copy of Acrobat Reader with Search even > though > > they do not have access rights to this directory or server except for > view > > only through the Intranet? If so, how? > > > > TIA > > > > Jim LaVelle > > Senior Technical Writer > > JamesLavelle@FirstUSA.com > > > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > > <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based > forms -> > > <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > -- > Robert E. Moran > Digital Constructs Inc. > 759 North Park Avenue > Redding, CT 06896 > Tel 203-452-1116 > 203-452-8085 > Fax: 203-452-0416 > E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com > http://www.dconstructs.com > "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller > > > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> > <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> > ___________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 17:57:00-GMT,3033;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22182 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:56:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15070; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:44:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:42:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14817; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:42:29 -0500 Message-ID: <37FB8959.43A5C350@dconstructs.com> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 13:39:37 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Adobe Catalog Index over Intranet? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, absolutely. HTH Bob Moran "Lavelle, James (FUSA)" wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Is it possible to use the Adobe Catalog Index search function over a company > Intranet? > > We have our files on an NT Server in a single directory for the Intranet. Of > course, that is where our Catalog index file resides. Can our Intranet > users add that index to their copy of Acrobat Reader with Search even though > they do not have access rights to this directory or server except for view > only through the Intranet? If so, how? > > TIA > > Jim LaVelle > Senior Technical Writer > JamesLavelle@FirstUSA.com > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> > <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> > ___________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 18:46:34-GMT,2229;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23584 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:46:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22535; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:39:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:37:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22338; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:37:52 -0500 Message-ID: <37FB97F9.7F880C01@scenicsoft.com> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:42:01 -0700 From: sbailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Title appearing on Acrobat window title bar References: <37FB8249.253C643D@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jo, The Document Info. "Title" of PDF file will appear in the window bar when the document is saved with the Open preference "Resize Window to Initial Page" selected. Choose File>Open to select this preference. Regards, Samantha jo leong wrote: > does anyone know why sometimes the filename of the PDF file appears as a > title in the Acrobat window title bar and at other times, the Title of > the document (doc info) appears instead. ___________________________________________ Samantha M. Bailey | Software Test Engineer 425.355.6655 | http://www.scenicsoft.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 19:08:26-GMT,2676;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24139 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:08:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25559; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:00:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:59:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25323; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:59:20 -0500 Message-ID: <37FB9C61.9D8AEDA1@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 21:00:49 +0200 From: "Lausseur.aalto" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Title appearing on Acrobat window title bar References: <37FB8249.253C643D@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jo, When you choose the Ť resize ť parameter in the dialog box for document opening settings, you actually get two effects : - Acrobat window resizes when opening the pdf file - The pdf title appears in the windows title bar This combination is not documented (I got this information from this list a few months ago), and is quite strange, because resizing option has nothing to do with the title of the pdf document ! I noticed a few days ago (Ť Window resizing with document open ť), you complained that resizing doesn’t work when window is set to fullscreen. As for me, I am very happy about this feature, as I wanted the title appearing in the windows bar, but I didn’t want automated resizing. Adobe should propose two different options : resize AND title… Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant jo leong a écrit : > does anyone know why sometimes the filename of the PDF file appears as a > title in the Acrobat window title bar and at other times, the Title of > the document (doc info) appears instead. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 20:46:16-GMT,3156;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26765 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:46:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07856; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:37:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:35:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07489; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:34:59 -0500 Message-ID: <37FB8714.A79F1830@cms-stl.com> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 12:29:57 -0500 From: "Peggy Schillinger" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Drops Equation Symbols? References: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C1D@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Decker Gary E wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > The characters you mention (the summation symbol is called "sigma," the > integral symbol is called "integrand") are included in Windows' Symbol > font. I had them disappear from a document once, so I embedded the > Symbol font and had no problems from that point on. > I can tell that you know more about font embedding that I do. When I opened the PDFWriter Properties box and looked at the embedded fonts, the Never Embed List contained several unusual fonts, all the WordPerfect TrueType fonts, the Adobe CronosMM font, and the basic Acrobat fonts (including Symbol). Some font names were red, some were blue, some underlined and some not underlined. I could remove only a few of them. In the Distiller, the embed/not embed lists follow my expectations: the basic fonts appear in the Never Embed list. I assume that you embedded Symbol and then made the PDF file. Do you ever try to embed the Symbol font in the PDFWriter? Do you embed the other basic fonts in the PDFWriter, too? Thank you for your suggestion about embedding fonts. Best regards, Peggy Schillinger ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peggy Schillinger STC St. Louis Employment Referral Service Manager Lead Technical Writer Computerized Medical Systems, Inc. peggy@cms-stl.com 314-812-4315 fax: 314-993-0075 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 21:01:47-GMT,3296;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27360 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10020; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:53:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:51:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09793; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:51:44 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C25@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Drops Equation Symbols? Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:51:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I don't use PDFWriter; I use Distiller exclusively. I have Distiller set to Embed All Fonts and to Subset All Embedded Fonts Below 100%. I presume you can do something similar with PDFWriter(?). I'm no font embedding expert by any means, although there are several on this list. When I had the problem happen to me, I did the same thing you did, post a question to this mailing list. Someone suggested embedding the font as a fix, and it worked great. Glad I could help, and let me know if I can be of further assistance. Gary Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com mailto:gadecke@wcnoc.com > ---------- > From: Peggy Schillinger[SMTP:peggy@cms-stl.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Drops Equation Symbols? > > I can tell that you know more about font embedding that I do. When I > opened the > PDFWriter Properties box and looked at the embedded fonts, the Never > Embed List > contained several unusual fonts, all the WordPerfect TrueType fonts, > the Adobe > CronosMM font, and the basic Acrobat fonts (including Symbol). Some > font names were red, some were blue, some underlined and some not > underlined. I could remove only a few of them. > > In the Distiller, the embed/not embed lists follow my expectations: > the basic fonts > appear in the Never Embed list. I assume that you embedded Symbol and > then made the PDF file. Do you ever try to embed the Symbol font in > the PDFWriter? Do you embed the other basic fonts in the PDFWriter, > too? > > Thank you for your suggestion about embedding fonts. > > Best regards, > > Peggy Schillinger > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1999 21:46:03-GMT,4287;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28517 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:46:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13783; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:19:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:18:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13548; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:18:18 -0500 From: HZingel@aol.com Message-ID: <0.56d73f5d.252d1684@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:17:56 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Drops Equation Symbols? To: peggy@cms-stl.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 41 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, > Yikes! And do you notice that the missing characters never appear again on > the > replacement page? Or are the replacement pages just as susceptible to the > problem > as are the others? They are of course, but chances are you never get the same thing on the same page twice. At least I never got it. Remember that the problem is somehow at a distance from some starting point or so. When you delete all but the page in question in the copied file, you "move" the problem somewhere else, probably out of the visible range (or even out of the file). I am currently having two "fix-pages" in my 850-page-work, and each time I compile a section that contains one of the "bad" formulas, I use to paste the "fix page", and this always worked. I am doing this for the last couple of years, and never had any troubles with it apart from the problem itself. > Hmm. This is verrrry interesting. The file with the worst problem was 100 > pages long and had 140 equations--some of the equations fill the entire page > (the subject matter is physics). It *seems* to me, that under some unknown condition something gets saved in the file the PDF is being created from that causes the problem but can under some other conditions be discarded altogether at once. At some point in the past, I use to have three such problems in a large file, and when I changed the printer driver that I was having loaded as default printer when creating the file, suddenly all formulas were intact again without the need for any fix. It *seems* that there is some relation between the distiller and the printer driver that is being used as default or perhaps just present on the system. Another thing that you may find interesting is that in the same document, there are some highly complex WMF objects with colors, shadows, gradients and the like, and at some point, I had to redo such objects (grrr!) because suddenly, without any apparent reason, some originally yellow elements showed up in b/w only. This again was equally suddenly ok again when I purchased and installed a new printer, but I never understood why. > You definitely should contact him.... Thanks for this one... I'll do right now. If you discuss the problem with the formulas with him, you may get a page from my original PageMaker 6.5 Plus file, a page with the damaged formula and more stuff like that. Btw: did you check all your typographic attributes? Are all underlines in place? When distilling in Acrobat 4 from Adobe P65, *all* underlines _disappear_. Nor *this* is frustrating... And when distilling in version 4 version 3 compatible, and then viewing in version 3, all italicized capital-F's are gone. *Sigh*. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 1:30:49-GMT,5158;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03552 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:30:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08106; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:24:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:21:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07695; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:21:49 -0500 Message-ID: <37FBF503.D276F3E5@dconstructs.com> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 21:18:59 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Adobe Catalog Index over Intranet? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It depends if the Intranet is an internal network or if it goes out onto the net. Adobe cannot allow Catalog to do it's thing over the net because of the licensing restrictions with Verity, the company that actually built the search engine. If the Intranet is a Lan/WAN that is purely internal, Catalog can generate an index that can be read by client machines. I did this for a large travel agency that worked out very well. HTH Bob Moran "Lavelle, James (FUSA)" wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Thanks Bob > > Could you elaborate on how this can be done? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert E. Moran [SMTP:remoran@dconstructs.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 1:40 PM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Adobe Catalog Index over Intranet? > > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Yes, absolutely. > > > > HTH > > > > Bob Moran > > > > "Lavelle, James (FUSA)" wrote: > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Is it possible to use the Adobe Catalog Index search function over a > > company > > > Intranet? > > > > > > We have our files on an NT Server in a single directory for the > > Intranet. Of > > > course, that is where our Catalog index file resides. Can our Intranet > > > users add that index to their copy of Acrobat Reader with Search even > > though > > > they do not have access rights to this directory or server except for > > view > > > only through the Intranet? If so, how? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Jim LaVelle > > > Senior Technical Writer > > > JamesLavelle@FirstUSA.com > > > > > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > > > <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based > > forms -> > > > <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > > -- > > Robert E. Moran > > Digital Constructs Inc. > > 759 North Park Avenue > > Redding, CT 06896 > > Tel 203-452-1116 > > 203-452-8085 > > Fax: 203-452-0416 > > E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com > > http://www.dconstructs.com > > "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller > > > > > > > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > > <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> > > <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> > <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> > ___________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Bug in one of your pdfzone pages? References: Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Kurt,

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does not have a link to:  PDF-Forms Archive Mailing List Interface

Thanks!

Roberto __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 5:21:11-GMT,4327;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08287 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:21:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA31585; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:09:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:08:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA31429; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:08:25 -0500 Message-ID: <004901bf1082$77c2a0e0$5fa2c3d0@b_mcnutt> From: "Bruce McNutt" To: Subject: [PDF] Cut-and-paste for vector art Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:11:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01BF1047.CA9A5E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BF1047.CA9A5E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to distribute a PDF document, with charts in it that readers can = borrow via the Windows Metafile. Good chart quality seems to require = that the Acrobat Reader copies the charts (originally encapsulated = postscript) as vector art during the cut-and-paste operation. In the = past, I was able to do this on the OS/2 platform (the picture was placed = into the OS/2 metafile, and could be pasted into other applications as = vector art using a menu sequence something like "edit/paste = special/metafile"). =20 This does not appear to work on Windows 98 or Windows NT... charts go = into the WMF as bitmaps. Has anyone figured out a way to cut out = *vector art* when running on Windows? -- Bruce ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BF1047.CA9A5E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I want to distribute a PDF document, = with charts=20 in it that readers can borrow via the Windows Metafile.  Good chart = quality=20 seems to require that the Acrobat Reader copies the charts (originally=20 encapsulated postscript) as vector art during the cut-and-paste = operation. =20 In the past, I was able to do this on the OS/2 platform (the picture was = placed=20 into the OS/2 metafile, and could be pasted into other applications as = vector=20 art using a menu sequence something like "edit/paste=20 special/metafile"). 
 
This does not appear to work on Windows 98 or = Windows NT...=20 charts go into the WMF as bitmaps.  Has anyone figured out a way to = cut out=20 *vector art* when running on Windows?
 
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =            =20 -- Bruce
------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BF1047.CA9A5E60-- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 14:02:17-GMT,6658;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18161 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:02:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07240; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:33:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:28:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06760; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:28:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199910071328.JAA19598@access2.mountain.net> X-Sender: bcostlow@pop.mountain.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:28:29 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Brian Costlow Subject: [PDF] PDF, overprint, images, HELP! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello All, I have a situation in which an overprinting image was knocking out, after it was run through Distiller 4.0. and re-printed. In order to try and troubleshoot the problem, I made two very small hand-coded PostScript files. Both files do all their marking in a set of "/Separation" colorspaces, all in process colorants. e.g.: [/Separation /Cyan /DeviceCMYK { 0 0 0 } ] setcolorspace File 1. overprint is set to true. Page background is imaged as a 50%C rectangle at 0 0 72 72 50%M rectangle imaged on top at 0 0 36 36 Image consisting of only 50%M pixels imaged at 36 36 72 72. File 2. overprint is set to true. Page background is imaged as an image consisting of only 50%C pixels. Additional images consisting of 50%M, Y or K imaged on top. Test Method. I ran both files through Windows Distiller 4.0 to produce a PDF ( preserve overprint checked on). I then printed those PDFs to disk twice each to make new PostScript files, once using the Win95/98 Adobe 4.3 driver, once using Lantana Crackerjack. In both cases the PPD used was for a Heidelberg Delta RIP/Herkules engine combo. In-line separations were turned on. Each four file set ( original PS, PDF, PS driver PS, CrackerJack PS, ) was sent to a Heidelberg Delta 6 RIP (Adobe PS3 and direct PDF 1.3 capable) [1]. All the files were also sent to Harlequin ScriptWorks 5.1. The results were bizzzare to say the least. File 1 results: Delta RIP Original PS file maintains all overprint (as expected). PDF file retains all overprint. PS driver PS file loses all overprint. [ 2 ] CrackerJack file loses image overprint.[ 3 ] Scriptworks RIP Original PS file maintains all overprint (as expected). PDF file retains all overprint. PS driver PS file loses all overprint. [ 2 ] CrackerJack file loses image overprint. [ 3 ] File 2 results: Delta RIP Original PS file maintains all overprint (as expected). PDF file LOSES all overprint. PS driver PS file loses all overprint. [ 2 ] CrackerJack file loses image overprint. [ 3 ] Scriptworks RIP Original PS file maintains all overprint (as expected). PDF file retains all overprint. PS driver PS file loses all overprint. [ 2 ] CrackerJack file loses image overprint. [ 3 ] Okay. Specific things I want to point out. In the PDF version File 1, there is an overprinting image, that overprints a filled object. It prints okay on the Adobe (Delta) and on ScriptWorks when the PDF version is sent directly. In File 2, the overprinting images overprint another image. This overprint is lost on the Adobe RIP but not on ScriptWorks when the PDF is sent directly Reading the PDF 1.3 spec, overprint is only disucssed with respect to stroke and fill operations. So does PDF 1.3 support overprinting an image? The spec hints no. Commonsense would say yes ( in order to match PS3 functionality). The results I have are ambigous. The answer appears to be sometimes? ScriptWorks overprints the PDFs exactly as the original PS it was made from. Also note that the PS driver is losing all overprint due to what I think is a bug, which I discuss below. CrackerJack output fixes this bug. However, the imaging routines (which are Adobe's, and the same as the driver's) make no attempt to overprint the image in the Driver PS or CrackerJack PS. Okay. Now to the meat. I have a bunch of PS jobs that have an overprinting image that shows up in the same place physically. The image needs to overprint irregardless of what's under it or what RIP it's sent to. How do I accomplish this in PDF. Anyone lurking from Adobe want to tackle this? Thanks, Brian NOTES [1]. I don't have direct control of the Delta, it's at another site. Since the hand-coded PS and the PDF files don't have page device code I am reliant on the operator there to insure the RIP is set up for inline seps correctly. However, he is very, very good, and the hand-coded PS comes out as expected both times. [2]. The utter failure of the PS printed from Acrobat using the 4.3 driver appears to be a bug. The PDF file sets it's graphic state using an object called an ExtGState object. The PS file strategy is to put the contents of the ExtGState object into a dictionary. A PS procedure then maps the dictionary contents to PS graphics state operators. The ExtGstate object in my test PDF files has 7 entries. Only one is copied into the PS dict. When using CrackerJack, all the entries are copied into the PS dict. I called Acrobat support to report this. Someone higher up the food chain was supposed to call back, but I haven't heard anything yet. [ 3 ]. When the PDF overprint settings are copied to the PS dict, the PS overprint operator is not called directly. This is because there are two overprint settings in PDF, and only one in PostScript. So the overprint settings are checked when a "setcolor" is done, and then the PS op is called. It's a bit more complicated than that, I have code samples if anyone wants them, but basically that is what happens. However, since setcolor is not called for an image, images never check the overprint state. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 14:31:22-GMT,1784;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18784 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:31:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11790; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:14:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:12:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11564; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:12:36 -0500 Message-ID: <37FCA972.6104F83E@pit-magnus.com> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:08:50 -0400 From: Dan Murren Organization: Progressive Information Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF to MS Word Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, We have a request to take a PDF file and create a MS Word File. Does anyone have any ideas on how (or if) this can be done? I'm using Acrobat 4.0, thanks, Dan __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 15:14:11-GMT,3131;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19925 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:14:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17745; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:04:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:03:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17620; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:03:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199910071503.IAA26747@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 08:03:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA17616 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a QuarkXPress 3.3 page in a Mac, with a text in CBO Futura > Condensed Bold Oblique, Type 1 Mac font. > > I have two Distiller 4.0 in two different computer; one Intergraph > Pentium II 400 with Windows NT and the other > Power Macintosh 9600 OS 8.1. Both distilling via network. > > Distilling in Windows, the mentioned font appears as Plain, not oblique. > Distilling in Mac, the font appears correctly. > > Outputting on film with a RIP Harlequin in a Intergraph Workstation, the > font appears correctly too. > > This problem is happening with a pair of Helvetica fonts. > > SOMEBODY DID HEAR TALK SOMETHING ABOUT IT? AM I CRAZY? AM I ALONE HERE? > > Thank you very much indeed. > > Jose Enrique Ochoa. > Fotomecanica Ochoa. > Julián Camarillo, 26. 28037 Madrid. > SPAIN. > Tel.: 341 327 2118 > Fax: 341 754 2883 It is not recommended to create PS on a Mac and Distill on a PC. However, when you made your PS from your Quark doc, did you make sure and choose the option to included *all* fonts in your PS file? Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 15:17:49-GMT,3165;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19995 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:17:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17091; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:58:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:56:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16808; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:56:10 -0500 Message-ID: <37FCB4C4.E79E2AC1@skios.es> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:57:08 +0200 From: Jose Enrique Ochoa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es]C-QXW04104 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Wrong Font? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F6F2C3B99CD52DD720F15845" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Este es un mensaje multipartes en formato MIME. --------------F6F2C3B99CD52DD720F15845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a QuarkXPress 3.3 page in a Mac, with a text in CBO Futura Condensed Bold Oblique, Type 1 Mac font. I have two Distiller 4.0 in two different computer; one Intergraph Pentium II 400 with Windows NT and the other Power Macintosh 9600 OS 8.1. Both distilling via network. Distilling in Windows, the mentioned font appears as Plain, not oblique. Distilling in Mac, the font appears correctly. Outputting on film with a RIP Harlequin in a Intergraph Workstation, the font appears correctly too. This problem is happening with a pair of Helvetica fonts. SOMEBODY DID HEAR TALK SOMETHING ABOUT IT? AM I CRAZY? AM I ALONE HERE? Thank you very much indeed. Jose Enrique Ochoa. Fotomecanica Ochoa. Julián Camarillo, 26. 28037 Madrid. SPAIN. 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X-Mailer: Pronto E-Mail [ver 4.0.2.5] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I need to know if there is a known problem for Acrobat version 3.00 with regard to links to marked destinations? Using acrobat Exchange 3.01 and Distiller 3.01, I have edited the post script files, added page marks, distilled the results and found that Links from html documents to pdf documents work successfully (ie open to the correct page) using Acrobat Reader Version 3.01 and Version 4.0. A user has however reported that using Acrobat 3.00 the links still work but the Acrobat documents only open on the first page (i.e the page marks do not seemed to be recognised) Regards Crispin Angood ----------------------------------------------------- Crispin Angood Water Management Department, HR Wallingford, Howbery Park, Wallingford, Oxon. OX10 8BA UK Tel: +44 (0)1491 822272 Fax: +44 (0)1491 826352 Email: c.angood@hrwallingford.co.uk http://www.hrwallingford.co.uk __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 15:30:44-GMT,3256;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20360 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19632; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:21:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:19:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19500; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:19:50 -0500 Message-Id: <3D8CBF19584AD311A42E0010E360A5F44BE6D0@FLGN003> From: "Sherry, Steve" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Automated PDF Creation Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:10:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear all, Does anyone know how to automate the creation of PDFs from html docs.? I need to convert around 3500 html docs into pdf format and don't have time to create them individually. (I need them to be individual pdfs. Web capture isn't what I'm after) I think I need to print each HTML doc to acrobat distiller. Automating the process is my problem I am new to this PDF lark and would appreciate any words of wisdom. 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If you receive this e-mail message in error please notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0)191 401 2253 or by e-mail at postmaster@uk.akzonobel.com Thank you. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 15:33:37-GMT,2193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20434 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:33:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17090; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:58:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:56:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16779; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:56:07 -0500 Message-ID: <37FCB480.930A896A@frii.com> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 08:56:00 -0600 From: baboman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PROMO> The Scoop on Font Embedding Restrictions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It seems sort of strange to me, that a WEB site devoted to PDF and an article like this isn't posted PDF. WHY? Please post more articles in PDF! Bruce........ Kurt Foss wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > ================================================= > The Scoop on Font Embedding Restrictions & Adobe Acrobat PDF > ================================================= > http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 15:55:27-GMT,2847;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20952 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:55:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22465; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:43:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:41:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22096; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:41:11 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automated PDF Creation In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:10:28 BST." <3D8CBF19584AD311A42E0010E360A5F44BE6D0@FLGN003> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:41:01 +0100 Message-ID: <18497.939310861@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:10:28 BST, "Sherry, Steve" wrote: > Dear all, > > Does anyone know how to automate the creation of PDFs from html docs.? > I need to convert around 3500 html docs into pdf format and don't have time > to create them individually. (I need them to be individual pdfs. Web capture > isn't what I'm after) > I think I need to print each HTML doc to acrobat distiller. Automating the > process is my problem > > I am new to this PDF lark and would appreciate any words of wisdom. > > Steve Sherry There is a free perl script called html2ps (http://www.tdb.uu.se/~jan/ht ml2ps.html) which you can use to convert each HTML file into a PostScript file. You can tune the conversion using CSS, and html2ps preserves internal hyperlinks and stuff. Rather cool, IMHO. You can automate html2ps, as it is just a command-line tool. Then for each PostScript file, you either need to run it through Distiller, or some other PS->PDF converter like Ghostscript. You can automate GS, because it has a command-line. If you have Distiller, you can just set it to 'watch' a folder, and then copy all your shiny PostScript files into the folder being watched. Cheers, Chris __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 16:08:23-GMT,1945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21227 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:08:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24240; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:00:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:58:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24009; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:58:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199910071558.KAA24004@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:02:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich Sprague wrote: > It is not recommended to create PS on a Mac and Distill on a PC. A PostScript file created on the Mac and distilled on the PC should be fine, as should a PS file created on the PC and then distilled on the Mac. I don't understand why this isn't recommended. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge, Inc. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 16:14:30-GMT,1827;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21387 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:14:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23239; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:51:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:50:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23089; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:50:34 -0500 Message-ID: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7FFC@keg.aus.frco.com> From: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" Subject: [PDF] PDF Object Model? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:31:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there a PDF object model (similar to the Word object model) that allows access to components of PDF files from scripting languages? Ron Riley Ron.Riley@frco.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 16:23:31-GMT,2459;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21643 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:23:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25919; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:14:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:13:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25757; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:13:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3D8CBF19584AD311A42E0010E360A5F44BE6D0@FLGN003> References: <3D8CBF19584AD311A42E0010E360A5F44BE6D0@FLGN003> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:10:43 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Automated PDF Creation Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA25723 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 4:10 PM +0100 10/7/99, Sherry, Steve wrote: >Does anyone know how to automate the creation of PDFs from html docs.? Check out HTMLDoc at . Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 16:26:27-GMT,4694;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21738 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:26:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26369; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:18:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:16:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26191; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:16:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3D8CBF19584AD311A42E0010E360A5F44BE6D1@FLGN003> From: "Sherry, Steve" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automated PDF Creation Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:09:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Chris, Thanks for the info. I'll give this a try. Regards Steve Sherry Tel: +44 (0)191 401-2529 Fax: +44 (0)191 495-0275 email: steve.sherry@uk.akzonobel.com -----Original Message----- From: Chris Ridd [mailto:Chris.Ridd@messagingdirect.com] Sent: 07 October 1999 16:41 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automated PDF Creation The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:10:28 BST, "Sherry, Steve" wrote: > Dear all, > > Does anyone know how to automate the creation of PDFs from html docs.? > I need to convert around 3500 html docs into pdf format and don't have time > to create them individually. (I need them to be individual pdfs. Web capture > isn't what I'm after) > I think I need to print each HTML doc to acrobat distiller. Automating the > process is my problem > > I am new to this PDF lark and would appreciate any words of wisdom. > > Steve Sherry There is a free perl script called html2ps (http://www.tdb.uu.se/~jan/ht ml2ps.html) which you can use to convert each HTML file into a PostScript file. You can tune the conversion using CSS, and html2ps preserves internal hyperlinks and stuff. Rather cool, IMHO. You can automate html2ps, as it is just a command-line tool. Then for each PostScript file, you either need to run it through Distiller, or some other PS->PDF converter like Ghostscript. You can automate GS, because it has a command-line. If you have Distiller, you can just set it to 'watch' a folder, and then copy all your shiny PostScript files into the folder being watched. Cheers, Chris __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== http://www.international-marine.com International Marine Coatings. http://www.international-pc.com International Protective Coatings. http://www.yachtpaint.com International Yacht Coatings. http://www.superyacht.com International Superyacht System. http://www.interpon.com Interpon Powder Coatings http://www.akzonobelpowder.com Akzo Nobel Powder Coatings ======================================================================== Confidentiality Note: The information in this electronic mail ("e-mail") message may be confidential and for use of only the named recipient. The information may be protected by privilege, work product immunity or other applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient the retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail message in error please notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0)191 401 2253 or by e-mail at postmaster@uk.akzonobel.com Thank you. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 16:27:53-GMT,3768;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21804 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:27:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26771; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:21:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:20:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26551; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:20:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37FCB480.930A896A@frii.com> References: <37FCB480.930A896A@frii.com> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:22:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] PROMO> The Scoop on Font Embedding Restrictions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > It seems sort of strange to me, that a WEB site devoted to PDF and an article > like this isn't posted PDF. WHY? Please post more articles in PDF! Bruce et al, Fair question, and one we've answered publicly a few times in some detail over the years. To review, we want to evangelize Acrobat & PDF to as wide an audience as possible -- not only to those already PDF-savvy. So our *first* release of information of the sort mentioned here is almost always in HTML. It's simple math as to the potential audience, and our own available production resources. We're glad to acknowledge (as is Adobe) that the acceptance and use of Acrobat/PDF has been on a steady rise with the last two version releases. We're well aware that there's most definitely a larger segment of the wired world these days that would be receptive to PDF as the primary format for such lengthy articles. It's definitely something we expect to keep in mind with future publishing efforts. Keep in mind, by its very nature as a Web-only operation, PDFzone does not routinely publish the sorts of reports, manuals, documentation, etc. that a typical company does every day. At present, we don't have a 'production workflow' as such in place; however, we are in fact exploring several solutions that could provide some new capabilities along these lines. It's quite likely we'll create and post an enhanced version of this article in PDF in the not-too-distant future; at this point, we're still building up the font resources section and may create a few other collateral kinds of materials that would increase the long-term value of such a document. We've also been gathering some very interesting feedback, some which might be appropriate to include in a PDF version. Thanks for taking time to share your thoughts! We truly do welcome visitor and subscriber feedback, and keep it in mind as we continue to expand PDFzone.com as a resource for the PDF Community. Regards ~ Kurt ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 16:34:12-GMT,2394;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22007 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:33:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27492; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:27:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:26:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27318; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:26:25 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Object Model? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:25:39 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bf10e0$98646be0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7FFC@keg.aus.frco.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is there a PDF object model (similar to the Word object model) that > allows access to components of PDF files from scripting languages? PDF has lots of object models, but probably the closest one is the PDEdit object model. This is not accessible from scripting languages, only from plug-ins - written in C or C++. No object model accessible from a scripting language allows access to the elements on a page. This is new with 4.0. Previously there were only very limited ways to access the contents of a page, all of them read-only, unless you descended to the level of the PDF internals. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 17:01:13-GMT,1856;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22631 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:01:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30443; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:53:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:52:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30300; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:52:21 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991007095426.009fc040@216.216.8.132> X-Sender: sulojana@216.216.8.132 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:56:11 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sulojana R Blows Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to MS Word In-Reply-To: <37FCA972.6104F83E@pit-magnus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dan BCL Computers has a software called DRAKE that does total file conversion from PDF to RTF. You can find more details and a trial version at www.bcl-computers.com Regards Sulojana __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 19:20:57-GMT,2093;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25981 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:20:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12390; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:15:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:12:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12058; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:12:43 -0500 Message-ID: <37FCF1EB.5CC5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:18:07 -0700 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? References: <199910071503.IAA26747@sun630mp.infomania.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich Sprague wrote: > > It is not recommended to create PS on a Mac and Distill on a PC. > > However, when you made your PS from your Quark doc, did you make sure and > choose the option to included *all* fonts in your PS file? Rich and Co., Why is this? I have done it a few times and I don't recall if I had probems or not. I think I did. Can you, or anyone elaborate any further as to why this is not a good idea. Thanks. Best regards, Lawrence Spear Creativist __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 19:30:31-GMT,2794;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26184 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:30:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13371; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:23:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:21:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13120; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:21:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199910071921.MAA01659@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:21:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Rich Sprague wrote: >> >> It is not recommended to create PS on a Mac and Distill on a PC. >> >> However, when you made your PS from your Quark doc, did you make sure and >> choose the option to included *all* fonts in your PS file? > > Rich and Co., > > Why is this? I have done it a few times and I don't recall if I had > probems or not. I think I did. Can you, or anyone elaborate any further > as to why this is not a good idea. > > Thanks. Best regards, > Lawrence Spear > Creativist According to Adobe, one should not have a problem distilling a PS file made on one platform and moved to another. I did some testing a few months back and had problems taking Mac PS and distilling on Windows, but not the other way around. I don't know why, or remember the details. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 21:49:39-GMT,1736;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29407 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:49:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27428; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:39:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:34:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26846; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:34:41 -0500 Message-ID: <96619EE612E2D21186370090273ADA780556EC@mail.dashe.com> From: Jack Arnold To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Batch conversion of Excel files to pdf Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:32:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am looking for a windows utility to batch convert 1000's of Excel files to pdf. Anyone know of such a progie? Jack Arnold 612-338-4911 icq: 28780252 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 21:54:56-GMT,2442;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29526 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:54:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28653; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:48:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:47:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28450; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:47:44 -0500 Message-ID: <19991007214722.84179.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [208.240.123.234] From: "Norman Sonnichsen" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Highliting PDF words with Reader4.0 and XML 'Highlite' commands Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 14:47:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My task is to highlite User-specified Search Words in a PDF. I've seen examples on the Web where, after the User enters a Search Word into the Site's Search Engine, a PDF is returned with all instances of that Search Word highlited in blue. These Web Sites use XML and a 'hilite file' passed with the URL to Reader in the following manner: http://www.ZYXInc.com/document.pdf#xml=http://www.ZYXInc.com/hilite All this is described in the Adobe tech document: "Highlight File Form" TechNote 5172 at http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/PDFS/TN/HIGHLT.PDF My questions: Is there a way to use the 'xml' method outside a WebBrowser? Can I specify 'xml=hilite' directly to Reader4.0? Or does this method apply only to the Web? Thanks, Norman S ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 21:58:22-GMT,2191;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29592 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:58:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28823; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:50:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:49:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28660; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:48:59 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199910071921.MAA01659@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:20:03 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich, could there be some problems with line endings and other unwanted character conversions on the transfer of the files? Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >According to Adobe, one should not have a problem distilling a PS file made >on one platform and moved to another. > >I did some testing a few months back and had problems taking Mac PS and >distilling on Windows, but not the other way around. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 22:22:13-GMT,2067;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00134 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:22:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31789; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:17:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:15:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA31595; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:15:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199910072215.RAA31590@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:19:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: Max Wyss > > could there be some problems with line endings and other unwanted character > conversions on the transfer of the files? > If the software used for the file transfer assumes that PostScript files are just text files, then, yes, the possibility exists to damage the PostScript file. This would damage *all* PostScript files not just those that are to be distilled. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge, Inc. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1999 22:33:12-GMT,2763;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00416 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:33:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00082; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:27:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:26:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA32663; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:26:20 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991007152212.00be1bb0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:26:06 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? In-Reply-To: <199910072215.RAA31590@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10/7/99 03:19 PM , Todd Donahue wrote: > >From: Max Wyss > > > > could there be some problems with line endings and other unwanted character > > conversions on the transfer of the files? > > > >If the software used for the file transfer assumes that PostScript files are >just text files, then, yes, the possibility exists to damage the PostScript >file. This would damage *all* PostScript files not just those that are to be >distilled. This is absolutely true. For the record, the ONLY safe way to transfer any file format created by Adobe software from one system to another is via binary copy. NEVER treat any Adobe file format as ASCII text for purposes of transfer and you should be safe. (Normal drag'n'drop operations between PCs and/or Macs and other PCs and/or Macs is not the problem. Usually the problem is in FTP-style transfers where often the default file type is text!) - Dov __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 3:35:22-GMT,2719;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06185 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:35:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25097; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:29:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:28:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24981; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:28:07 -0500 Message-ID: <37FD63E5.EEDE5A7F@dconstructs.com> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 23:24:21 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to MS Word References: <37FCA972.6104F83E@pit-magnus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Check out a plug-in that produces RTF. One outfit that has a good one is BCL computers. Their website is www.bcl-compuers.com HTH R. Moran Dan Murren wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hello, > > We have a request to take a PDF file and create a MS Word File. Does > anyone have any ideas on how (or if) this can be done? I'm using Acrobat > 4.0, thanks, > > Dan > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> > <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> > ___________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 3:35:22-GMT,1897;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06187 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:35:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25016; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:28:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:25:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24708; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:25:26 -0500 Message-ID: <37FD647F.2ACCCA0B@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 11:26:55 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Splash Screen and customizing general preferences Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, is it possible to customize general preferences for Acrobat. ie. setting cross-docs off automatically, turning off the splash screen etc, so that users don't have to do this themselves ? Is it possible to customise the splash screen ? Thanks in advance for any help. Jo Leong __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 10:16:13-GMT,2579;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA13412 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 04:16:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20468; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 05:06:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 05:02:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20155; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 05:02:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Wrong Font? Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:02:17 +0100 Message-ID: <002101bf1174$349f5900$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > could there be some problems with line endings and other > unwanted character > conversions on the transfer of the files? PostScript can accomodate any combination of line endings: the three conventions (Windows, Mac and Unix) are all accepted. The key thing is to treat PostScript as BINARY, just like PDF. If it is treated as text, line endings in binary data can break the file. This should be common sense (?) - only something that really is text, should be treated as text. Unfortunately, there is a tendency for Mac applications to set the file type for PS files to TEXT, which can naturally confuse some methods of file transfer. But a PostScript file is a PostScript file, whatever the platform. Provided the fonts are embedded I can't think of any problems from cross-platform distilling. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 13:16:27-GMT,2362;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16458 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 07:16:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02444; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:10:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:07:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02269; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:07:40 -0500 Message-ID: <69AAB7AD55D6D21185210060976CDC0A81EEE0@pl-exchange-2.pl.unisys.com> From: "Dembek, Raymond F" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Using Acrobat 4 for a Network (LAN) service Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:07:28 -0500 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Adobe has designed Acrobat 4 so that it can be used on a network (LAN) to produce and modify PDF files. Unfortunately with the current license agreement any use on a network, other than as a way to load (a permitted number of copies of) software, seems to be prohibited. To correct this overly restrictive license agreement, has Adobe issued a policy statement that would permit using Acrobat as a network service, for example to create PDF using shared watched folders in Distiller, under some reasonable set of circumstances? Regards and thanks, Ray Dembek Raymond F. Dembek Unisys Corp. - Michigan Ray.Dembek@Unisys.com Voice: 248-661-9302 "We eat, sleep and drink this stuff." __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 13:28:20-GMT,1854;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16654 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 07:28:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03878; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:22:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:21:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03689; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:21:24 -0500 Message-ID: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C30297CD@NTSERVER1> From: Neil Swallow To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Tiff in Quark Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:54:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a problem with creating PDF files using distiller when the quark files have bitmap tiffs in. If the tiffs have had the background turned to none in quark the resulting PDF will show the background to white but when printed to a rip the background will go to none again. Any comments ? __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 13:40:14-GMT,2688;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16848 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 07:40:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05202; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:33:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:32:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05009; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:32:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199910081332.GAA19065@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 06:32:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Tiff in Quark From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a problem with creating PDF files using distiller when the quark > files have bitmap tiffs in. If the tiffs have had the background turned to > none in quark the resulting PDF will show the background to white but when > printed to a rip the background will go to none again. > > Any comments ? Sure, Quark containers need a background color of white or a % of color, or bitmapped tiff files will have jagged edges. The whites in the bitmap become transparent. With eps images, you don't need a color in the container. The default setting in Quark was originally none, but changed to white because so many people got bit with bad film output (including me). Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 15:39:55-GMT,2379;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19406 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:39:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17784; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:31:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:30:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17583; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:30:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008113613.008f2180@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 11:36:13 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Turn Page In-Reply-To: <003f01bf0d82$b018fb40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Perhaps it's just me, but am I the only person to be appalled that >this is apparently the only way to delay in JavaScript? > I suppose any user whose system you ran it on might be a bit miffed to find that a delay loop was hogging the processor as well. ;-) I drink java, not write it, but I wonder whether there's any equivalent to the VB DoEvents() construct, which allows a loop like this to allow other processes to proceed apace rather than monopolizing the machine? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 15:51:42-GMT,2820;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19646 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:51:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19450; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:43:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:41:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19205; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:41:44 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008114736.008f21a0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 11:47:36 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Write a program to join/append multiple PDF files In-Reply-To: <88256802.00102ECB.00@CBSBVTLN01.clmt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Because I don't need any further manipulation of the output, I feel it shouldn't >be too difficult to write such program in C/C++, Perl, or VB/Script. Any >pointers will be greatly appreciated. Why do people who feel that it'd be simple to do in never just go and do it themselves? ;-) FWIW, a brief look at the PDF specs was all it took to convince me that it's not at all simple for the likes of a relatively inexperienced VB potzer like moi. If you don't have a lot of links and other such goodies to preserve, it'd probably be simpler to work out a way to print the individual PDFs to PS then marry them up in Distiller. W/O having really thought it out, I'd venture to say that it'd be ... well ... not simple but simpler than directly manipulating PDFs. Which leaves you a nice opening for a comeback shot along the lines of "Why do people who feel that it'd be simpler to ...." ;-) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 16:09:35-GMT,2675;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20024 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:09:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21027; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:58:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:57:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20886; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:57:36 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008120324.008eb530@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:03:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991007152212.00be1bb0@mail-303> References: <199910072215.RAA31590@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >This is absolutely true. For the record, the ONLY safe way to >transfer any file format created by Adobe software from one >system to another is via binary copy. NEVER treat any Adobe >file format as ASCII text for purposes of transfer and you >should be safe. But the system-level software on the Mac may still outsmart you if you're going from PC to Mac. It may see the PS as a text file (as MacLogic leans to "it doesn't have a resource fork, therefore it's a text file" sort of decisions). In that case it may "help" by converting pairs to s no matter how the file was transferred. This ... um ... feature can be turned off on all the Macs I've used, and in most of the various unzipping/unstuffing utilities I've played with. And should be. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 16:13:07-GMT,2856;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20132 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:13:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21819; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:05:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:04:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21722; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:04:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008121030.00970e40@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:10:30 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Wrong Font? In-Reply-To: <002101bf1174$349f5900$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >PostScript can accomodate any combination of line endings: the >three conventions (Windows, Mac and Unix) are all accepted. > So it can, but you could have a pair of bytes in a binary included in the PS that happens to look the same as a CR/LF pair and gets translated (into something useless) when the Mac "helps" too much. The conclusion seems to be that IF the file arrives on the target platform exactly identical to what left the source platform, there should be no problems. Do you happen to know whether the Mac reports the size of the data fork only in directory listings, or does it ... (well, check it yourself, Steve!) .... ah. Yes. Evidently it reports the size of the data fork when you do a get info. Suggesting that one could check the file size on the PC and compare it to the file size on the Mac. If something's done CR --> CR/LF or vice versa conversions at some point, the file size will have changed. And may not work. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 16:15:03-GMT,2335;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20163 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:15:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22047; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:07:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:06:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21907; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:06:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008121226.00970e40@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:12:26 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files In-Reply-To: <06ECE37FE068602B*/c=be/admd=isa/prmd=kb/o=KBMI/s=U38357/@M HS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bookmarks in Word ARE links to other places within the same document. Instead, insert a hyperlink to the external file you want to open. > >I've been trying to create a document with bookmarks which open other PDF-files from within MS Word97. >So far the bookmarks were created but I don't manage to get them to link to another PDF-file instead of inside the same document. I could of course do it manually with exchange :*)) > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 16:57:38-GMT,3081;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21189 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:57:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26290; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:50:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:48:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26058; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:48:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199910081648.LAA26039@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 09:52:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: Steve Rindsberg >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? >Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 9:03 AM > > But the system-level software on the Mac may still outsmart you if you're > going from PC to Mac. It may see the PS as a text file (as MacLogic leans > to "it doesn't have a resource fork, therefore it's a text file" sort of > decisions). In that case it may "help" by converting pairs to > s no matter how the file was transferred. This ... um ... feature can > be turned off on all the Macs I've used, and in most of the various > unzipping/unstuffing utilities I've played with. And should be. The Mac system software does not treat files without a resource fork as text files. All Mac system software since version 1.0 has always treated the files on the file system as binary in nature. In fact there is no Mac *system* equivalent of opening and writing a file in "text mode" as you would find on most unix systems. When opening and reading/writing files using Mac system calls, no "helping" of line ending conversions is done. We transfer files created to and from the PC and Mac everyday without running into problems. The methods range from sneaker netting floppy disks, to using an AppleShare file server for both the Mac and Windows. What Mac system software are you referring to that provides the conversion of line endings during file transfer? -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge, Inc. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 19:59:35-GMT,2423;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25132 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:59:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11858; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:52:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:49:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11482; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:49:50 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:49:40 -0700 From: "Cutler, Wendy SDES:EX" Subject: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23C0EC46F@ocean.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hyperlinks in Word97 to external LAN files don't automatically become hyperlinks in the converted PDF file unless they link to a bookmark. That's according to Adobe's documentation. That's pretty useless, because we only have control over the documents we write, not all the other documents on the LAN to which we want to link, whose authors didn't insert bookmarks so that we could link to them from Acrobat. * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Social Development and Economic Security * mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca *(604) 660-1591 Fax: (604)775-0846 Bookmarks in Word ARE links to other places within the same document. Instead, insert a hyperlink to the external file you want to open. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 20:32:29-GMT,3257;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25840 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:32:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15640; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:25:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:24:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15496; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:24:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008163008.0096e100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 16:30:08 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? In-Reply-To: <199910081648.LAA26039@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The Mac system software does not treat files without a resource fork as text >files. All Mac system software since version 1.0 has always treated the >files on the file system as binary in nature. It may indeed treat its own files differently. I have no way of writing files directly to the mac file system ... no, wait perhaps I do, but put that on hold for a sec ... When it sees files on a PC formatted disk or an NT network share, it seems to assign a PC icon to all of them it doesn't recognize and tells me that they're text files, no matter what they really are. Some mapping from the PC file's extension is obviously going on here, since it's willing to admit that PowerPoint .PPT files, for example, are PowerPoint documents. As you suggest, I'm no doubt mistaken in referring to the "system" software rather than to various other bits and pieces that are installed by default *with* the system software. PC Exchange or whatever its current variant is for example. Pretty sure it's *this* little helper that's doing the CR/LF conversions. Or Mac Easy Open which does indeed have a "Translate TEXT Documents" option. Off here, and I don't seem to have any problems with CR/LF translations. >From past experience, I know that the Aladdin StuffIt and their freeware lite version both do this translation by default. Get a large stick, beat them thoroughly and they behave nicely as well. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 20:43:57-GMT,3443;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26055 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:43:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17132; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:37:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:36:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16912; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:36:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008164208.0096fe10@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 16:42:08 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files In-Reply-To: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23C0EC46F@ocean.gov.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Hyperlinks in Word97 to external LAN files don't automatically become >hyperlinks in the converted PDF file unless they link to a bookmark. That's >according to Adobe's documentation. That's pretty useless, because we only >have control over the documents we write, not all the other documents on the >LAN to which we want to link, whose authors didn't insert bookmarks so that >we could link to them from Acrobat. > Let's narrow this down and make sure we're using the same terminology (I'm generally guilty of vagueness in this department!) and methodology. I was sure I'd done this at one time or another, so gave it another shot just now. New document in Word97, typed in some text, selected some of it, then chose Insert, Hyperlink. Put the cursor in the upper of the two boxes in the hyperlink dialog (the one for the URL) and clicked Browse. Picked a PDF at random from a shared directory on the network server. Word filled in the UNC path to the file. I removed the checkmark next to "Use relative path for hyperlink" and OK'd the dialog box. I then let PDFMaker make the PDF via Distiller (with all the Convert to links options I could find checked in the PDFMaker Prefs dialog). Lo, there's a link in the resulting PDF. I click it, it opens the document I originally linked to. Repeated the same test, this time linking to the PDF I'd just created (in case the original PDF I'd linked to had bookmarks that were confusing the issue). Same result. Are talking about different things here? I suspect so. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 20:44:38-GMT,2312;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26080 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17241; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:38:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:37:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17037; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:37:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199910082037.PAA17018@everglades.binc.net> Date: 08 Oct 99 16:38:08 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Wrong Font? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA17020 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] Wrong Font? >But a PostScript file is a PostScript file, whatever the platform. >Provided the fonts are embedded I can't think of any problems >from cross-platform distilling. > >Aandi If that is true, why does Distiller _need_ to know where the font resources are IF the fonts are embedded in the PostScript? I always thought it looked there first for the font information, or has this changed with 4.0? Also, PostScript _always_ embeds fonts on the PC right? If not, where is the option to _not embed_? Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 20:47:48-GMT,2182;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26133 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:47:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17786; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:42:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:41:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17588; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:41:38 -0500 Message-ID: <002701bf11cd$36d28f40$63191b3f@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:39:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----->>I've been trying to create a document with bookmarks which open other >PDF-files from within MS Word97. From: Steve Rindsberg >Bookmarks in Word ARE links to other places within the same document. >Instead, insert a hyperlink to the external file you want to open. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think hyperlinks in Word97 are carried over when distilled to PDF. I think you have to have PDFMarks installed (or something like that??!). SueG __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 20:55:43-GMT,1972;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26303 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:55:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18541; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:49:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:48:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18351; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:48:05 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C30@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:47:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFMaker, included with Acrobat 4.0, carries over hyperlinks from Word 97. > ---------- > From: Susan Gililland[SMTP:susan.gililland@gte.net] > Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 3:39 PM > > Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think hyperlinks in Word97 are carried > over > when distilled to PDF. I think you have to have PDFMarks installed > (or > something like that??!). > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 21:07:44-GMT,2741;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26573 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:07:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19591; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:00:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:59:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19464; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:59:11 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Wrong Font? Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 21:58:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bf11cf$dea32700$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <199910082037.PAA17018@everglades.binc.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >But a PostScript file is a PostScript file, whatever the platform. > >Provided the fonts are embedded I can't think of any problems > >from cross-platform distilling. > > > >Aandi > > If that is true, why does Distiller _need_ to know where the > font resources > are IF the fonts are embedded in the PostScript? It doesn't. However, it may need to be able to find its own, default, font folder. This is because many PostScript files refer to the base 13 fonts (Helvetica, Times, Courier, Symbol) EVEN if not used in the page. These fonts are not likely to be found in the PostScript file. > I always thought it looked there first for the font > information, or has this changed > with 4.0? Also, PostScript _always_ embeds fonts on the PC > right? If not, where > is the option to _not embed_? The PostScript printer driver does not embed a font which it believes is resident in the printer. A PPD file can be used, therefore, to prevent downloading. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 21:10:25-GMT,2980;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26639 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:10:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20190; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:05:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:04:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20061; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:04:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199910082104.QAA20056@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 14:08:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: Justin Blocksom >To: pdf >Subject: RE: [PDF] Wrong Font? >Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 1:38 PM > > If that is true, why does Distiller _need_ to know where the font resources > are IF the fonts are embedded in the PostScript? > I always thought it looked there first for the font information, or has > this changed > with 4.0? Also, PostScript _always_ embeds fonts on the PC right? If not, where > is the option to _not embed_? Distiller does not need to search for fonts on the host system if the font is embedded in the PostScript file. The search order for fonts is unchanged as far as I know for 4.0. Distiller will look for fonts in the following order: 1. use a font embedded in the PS file 2. in the Resource/Font directory inside the Acrobat folder 3. if the asian font support is installed, fonts in the psdisk directory 4. system fonts as configured in the font locations dialog The PostScript driver(s) in Windows use the fonts listed in the printer PPD to determine which fonts to embed/not embed. Fonts listed as being built into the printer are not included in the PostScript file. Additionally, if you choose from the printer properties the choice "Do not send" (PS & TrueType), then the fonts will *not* be embedded in the resulting PS file. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge, Inc. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 21:15:28-GMT,2807;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26721 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:15:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20670; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:10:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:08:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20547; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:08:56 -0500 Message-ID: <004b01bf11d1$07d37980$63191b3f@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:06:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Well, there's a reason to upgrade! Thanks for the info. -----Original Message----- From: Decker Gary E To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 1:54 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFMaker, included with Acrobat 4.0, carries over hyperlinks from Word >97. > >> ---------- >> From: Susan Gililland[SMTP:susan.gililland@gte.net] >> Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 3:39 PM >> >> Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think hyperlinks in Word97 are carried >> over >> when distilled to PDF. I think you have to have PDFMarks installed >> (or >> something like that??!). >> > >__________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> > <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> >___________________________________________________________________ > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 21:15:47-GMT,1841;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26740 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:15:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20644; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:09:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:08:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20492; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:08:21 -0500 From: Cybergrphx@aol.com Message-ID: <0.92e040d.252fb733@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:08:03 EDT Subject: [PDF] Additional/new dongle for more Capture production To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Since Emerge is no longer with us, I don't have a resource for getting the additional page packages for Capture. Does anyone have a good source for this. I didn't even see the additional page option on Adobe's site. Does it still exist? Thanks Rob Robertson Cybergraphix, Inc. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 21:18:58-GMT,4379;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26807 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:18:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21146; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:12:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:11:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20919; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:11:36 -0500 Message-ID: <005601bf11d1$67531b40$63191b3f@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:09:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yep, two different things. Still on 3.x; didn't know that PDFMaker was included in 4.0; couldn't remember PDFMaker - thought it was PDFMarks... That's why this list is so interesting! Good info as always, Steve. SueG -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rindsberg To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 1:44 PM Subject: Re: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >> >>Hyperlinks in Word97 to external LAN files don't automatically become >>hyperlinks in the converted PDF file unless they link to a bookmark. That's >>according to Adobe's documentation. That's pretty useless, because we only >>have control over the documents we write, not all the other documents on the >>LAN to which we want to link, whose authors didn't insert bookmarks so that >>we could link to them from Acrobat. >> > >Let's narrow this down and make sure we're using the same terminology (I'm >generally guilty of vagueness in this department!) and methodology. I was >sure I'd done this at one time or another, so gave it another shot just now. > >New document in Word97, typed in some text, selected some of it, then chose >Insert, Hyperlink. Put the cursor in the upper of the two boxes in the >hyperlink dialog (the one for the URL) and clicked Browse. Picked a PDF at >random from a shared directory on the network server. Word filled in the >UNC path to the file. I removed the checkmark next to "Use relative path >for hyperlink" and OK'd the dialog box. > >I then let PDFMaker make the PDF via Distiller (with all the Convert > to links options I could find checked in the PDFMaker Prefs >dialog). > >Lo, there's a link in the resulting PDF. I click it, it opens the document >I originally linked to. > >Repeated the same test, this time linking to the PDF I'd just created (in >case the original PDF I'd linked to had bookmarks that were confusing the >issue). Same result. > >Are talking about different things here? I suspect so. > >Steve Rindsberg >President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau >http://www.rdpslides.com > >Developers of ZAP! >Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus >http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm > >__________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> > <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> >___________________________________________________________________ > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 21:20:17-GMT,4514;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26822 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:20:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21398; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:14:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:13:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21250; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:13:12 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 14:13:04 -0700 From: "Cutler, Wendy SDES:EX" Subject: FW: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23C0EC477@ocean.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Well, this is from Support Database Document 323892: "Error "Specified file does not exist" When Clicking Link in PDF File Created with PDFMaker Issue When you click a link in a PDF file created using Adobe Acrobat PDFMaker 4.0 from a Microsoft Word document, your Adobe Acrobat viewer returns one of the following errors: - "The specified file [/\server/path/filename] does not exist." - "Could not open the specified file [/\server\path\filename]." ... While Word can create links to files on network servers, Acrobat PDFMaker cannot convert these links to PDF." The second error message is the one that I get. It looks like a hyperlink; it just doesn't work. I should add that the link is generally to a Word document, not to a PDF file. Actually, in this write-up, it says the linked-to document must be in the same folder as the linking document, and it doesn't say anything about bookmarks. Maybe I made that up about the bookmark, but I don't think so. Is it just that PDFs can't link to Word documents on a LAN but they can link to PDF documents? It used to work fine in Acrobat 3.0. Or maybe it's been fixed and no-one told me! * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Social Development and Economic Security * mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca *(604) 660-1591 Fax: (604)775-0846 -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rindsberg [mailto:steve@rdpslides.com] Sent: Friday, October 8, 1999 1:42 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Let's narrow this down and make sure we're using the same terminology (I'm generally guilty of vagueness in this department!) and methodology. ... New document in Word97, typed in some text, selected some of it, then chose Insert, Hyperlink. Put the cursor in the upper of the two boxes in the hyperlink dialog (the one for the URL) and clicked Browse. Picked a PDF at random from a shared directory on the network server. Word filled in the UNC path to the file. I removed the checkmark next to "Use relative path for hyperlink" and OK'd the dialog box. I then let PDFMaker make the PDF via Distiller (with all the Convert to links options I could find checked in the PDFMaker Prefs dialog). Lo, there's a link in the resulting PDF. I click it, it opens the document I originally linked to. Repeated the same test, this time linking to the PDF I'd just created (in case the original PDF I'd linked to had bookmarks that were confusing the issue). Same result. Are talking about different things here? I suspect so. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 21:57:46-GMT,2770;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27537 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:57:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25048; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:52:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:51:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24769; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:51:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jose Mera To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Additional/new dongle for more Capture production Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:53:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ CDW (www.cdw.com) carries them. I know they have the 20K and 200K. Be aware, there's currently a 10+ day backlog from Adobe to their distributors. Jose Mera VP DocMaestro Products Div. ISPA, Inc. 1700 McMullen Booth Rd., Suite C-3 Clearwater, Fl 33759 Phone: 727-669-8911 Fax: 727-669-6410 -----Original Message----- From: Cybergrphx@aol.com [mailto:Cybergrphx@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 5:08 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Additional/new dongle for more Capture production The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Since Emerge is no longer with us, I don't have a resource for getting the additional page packages for Capture. Does anyone have a good source for this. I didn't even see the additional page option on Adobe's site. Does it still exist? Thanks Rob Robertson Cybergraphix, Inc. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 22:24:35-GMT,2080;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28255 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27633; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:19:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:17:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27495; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:17:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008182314.008f9340@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 18:23:14 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files In-Reply-To: <004b01bf11d1$07d37980$63191b3f@sue> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFMaker, included with Acrobat 3, does this as well. >Well, there's a reason to upgrade! Thanks for the info. >> >>PDFMaker, included with Acrobat 4.0, carries over hyperlinks from Word >>97. >> Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 22:26:52-GMT,2317;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28327 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:26:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27923; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:21:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:19:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27701; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:19:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008182536.008fac50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 18:25:36 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: FW: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files In-Reply-To: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23C0EC477@ocean.gov.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >The second error message is the one that I get. It looks like a hyperlink; >it just doesn't work. I should add that the link is generally to a Word >document, not to a PDF file. Ah, I see. I haven't tried creating links to Word files and wouldn't really have reason to. Still, I can see where it'd be a nuisance ... It's a bit crazy here right now; when the tuits come in, I'll try giving this a whirl. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 23:08:54-GMT,2094;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29216 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 17:08:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31703; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:03:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:01:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31391; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:01:00 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 16:00:45 -0700 From: "Cutler, Wendy SDES:EX" Subject: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23C0EC47B@ocean.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Well, sort-of. with Acrobat 3.0, we had to download PDFMaker 1.0 separately. * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Social Development and Economic Security ? mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca ((604) 660-1591 Fax: (604)775-0846 PDFMaker, included with Acrobat 3, does this as well. ... >>PDFMaker, included with Acrobat 4.0, carries over hyperlinks from Word >>97. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 0:13:37-GMT,3324;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00430 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:13:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04097; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 19:07:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 19:06:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03935; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 19:06:02 -0500 Message-ID: <37FE8633.62375599@dconstructs.com> Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 20:03:00 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files References: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23C0EC46F@ocean.gov.bc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have never heard of that limitation. Where is that reference. Bob Moran "Cutler, Wendy SDES:EX" wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hyperlinks in Word97 to external LAN files don't automatically become > hyperlinks in the converted PDF file unless they link to a bookmark. That's > according to Adobe's documentation. That's pretty useless, because we only > have control over the documents we write, not all the other documents on the > LAN to which we want to link, whose authors didn't insert bookmarks so that > we could link to them from Acrobat. > > * ^ * ^ * > Wendy Cutler > Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support > ITB, Ministry of Social Development and Economic Security > * mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca > *(604) 660-1591 Fax: (604)775-0846 > > Bookmarks in Word ARE links to other places within the same document. > Instead, insert a hyperlink to the external file you want to open. > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> > <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> > ___________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 6:29:59-GMT,2323;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07168 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 00:29:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA32700; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 01:20:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 01:17:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA32517; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 01:17:23 -0500 Message-ID: <37FF5C79.6D2D7C0A@lauterkranz.com> Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 08:17:20 -0700 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Overprint-Problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi to all I have an Overprint-Voodoo with Distiller 3.x and 4.x: Even if I Do NOT allow to keep overprint in Distiller joboptions Some (espacially white!!!) Type or Graphics are set to overprint and do not knock out the underlying Elements. Thats very bad because it is not to see on screen until you youse pitstop pipette. The in rip separation is wrong!! Up to now i solved the problem by writing a "power-replace" filter that changes the "/OP true" operator to "/OP false" in the PDF-File. This works perfect but i do not understand why i have to do this. Any Idea. Thanks Richard __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 10:12:33-GMT,1927;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA10681 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 04:12:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15227; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:03:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:01:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14911; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:01:23 -0500 From: "Cool Jim" To: Subject: [PDF] How to get rid of flashy in rollover. Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:59:31 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I haven't scan through the list. But does anyone know how to get rid of that flash between the changing of icons. Especially when u are using the rollover effect. JC __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 10:12:39-GMT,3921;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA10687 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 04:12:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15228; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:03:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:01:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14932; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:01:25 -0500 From: "Cool Jim" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Linking from PDF to local JavaDoc HTML files on AIX Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:59:35 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <37FB2227.C846363F@hursley.ibm.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What is an AIX box. Is it unix related? -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 1999 8:19 PM To: PDF List Cc: evans@uk.ibm.com; harts@uk.ibm.com Subject: [PDF] Linking from PDF to local JavaDoc HTML files on AIX The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Folks, We have currently run up against a problem using Acrobat on AIX. When linking to a local JavaDoc HTML file from a PDF, the AIX box tried to execute the HTML file rather than invoking Netscape and opening the local JavaDoc HTML file in Netscape! The PDF file was created in Acrobat 4 running on Windows NT 4 Workstation and we are using an "Open File" link because the World Wide Web Link will not work with local file URLs (e.g. file:///...). The document links worked fine when we tested it on Windows but as soon as we shifted the whole lot onto AIX it barfed. Is this anything to do with the fact that unlike Windows, AIX has no concept of associating applications with files? Has anybody else experienced this? Many thanks for any information you can provide us with. Cheers, Steve ______________________________________________________________________ Stephen Woolley - UCD Specialist / Acrobat Evangelist MQSeries for OS/390 User Centered Design Mail Point 095, IBM United Kingdom Laboratories, Hursley Park, Winchester, Hampshire, SO21 2JN, United Kingdom http://www.hursley.ibm.com/ swoolley@hursley.ibm.com Steve Woolley/UK/IBM@IBMGB swoolley@uk.ibm.com Tel: +44 (0)1962 818428 Fax: +44 (0)1962 870229 ______________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 10:12:41-GMT,3643;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA10691 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 04:12:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15254; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:03:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:01:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14933; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:01:25 -0500 From: "Cool Jim" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Powerpoint to PDF with Links Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:59:33 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <199910060556.WAA10162@pacific.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi tried PDFmaker with Powerpoint 2000. PDFmaker hang. Further test shows the same stituation with word 2000. Sometimes it hangs sometimes it doesn't. Either office 2000 is buggy or PDFmaker has trouble with Office 2000. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Dahmer Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 1999 5:00 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Powerpoint to PDF with Links The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Regarding your message of 10/5/99 6:53 PM... 10/5/99, scottabel@cybertek.com wrote: >>Does anyone know how I might convert a PowerPoint presentation to pdf without >>losing the links contained in the original PowerPoint presentation??? To which Leonard Rosenthol replied: > If you are running on Windows, Acrobat 4 will install >something called PDFMaker into your PowerPoint application (Acro3 >only did it for Word & Excel, PP support is new to 4) that will do it >quite nicely! So if you're still at Acrobat 3 - upgrade. If you're >on the Mac, unfortunately, there isn't a good solution :(. PDFMaker for the Mac is now available at Abobe's lovely new Web site. So far, my experience with it has been buggy. Also: I wasn't using it with PowerPoint. Nonetheless, I believe you would want to add the links *after* the PDF document is created. C. Chuck Dahmer ------- chuckd@pacific.net __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Cardiff Software provides tools to simplify the creation of PDF-based forms -> <- PDF+Forms: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CardiffForms.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 11:53:09-GMT,2174;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12245 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22477; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 06:44:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 06:40:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22062; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 06:39:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Linking from PDF to local JavaDoc HTML files on AIX Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:39:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bf124a$e8dc6120$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ AIX is a flavour of Unix, which runs on IBM's RS6000 hardware. It's also a town in France, pronounced like "Aieee!". Aandi P.S. Please edit your replies, you posted a 60 line message with only one new line in it. (And yes, I know I've done it myself!) This makes the digest form of the list almost unusable. > What is an AIX box. Is it unix related? __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 13:48:31-GMT,2068;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13962 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 07:48:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31645; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 08:43:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 08:41:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31344; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 08:41:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991009094700.00897db0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 09:47:00 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files In-Reply-To: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23C0EC47B@ocean.gov.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Well, sort-of. with Acrobat 3.0, we had to download PDFMaker 1.0 separately. > So much software, so few brain cells ... sigh. Yes, and thanks for pointing that out. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 15:13:07-GMT,5838;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15315 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:13:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06066; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:05:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:03:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05894; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:03:55 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991009102059.013f7720@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 11:02:04 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Re: Creating bookmarks with links to other files In-Reply-To: <199910091341.IAA31398@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There have been some misconceptions about bookmarks floating on this list that I would like to clear up. A bookmark (known as an outline entry in the PDF spec) can have an old style 'Dest' destination or a new style 'A' action. A Dest is limited to pointing only within the current file. An Action can point to the current file with a particular zoom (e.g. Fit Width), or an Action can point to another file and specify a page number or named destination in that file (more about this later). An Action can also play a sound or go to a web link. Actions are also used in links (known as link annotations in the PDF spec) and form fields (known as widget annotations in the PDF spec). The reason that you cannot do everything with a bookmark's action that you can do with a link's action is a limitation of your PDF creation process. If you want to create bookmarks with actions that point to particular pages in another file, import them from a tab-delimited file using Ari's Bookmark Tool, a plug-in I wrote for Dionis that works with Adobe Acrobat: http://www.dionis.com/demo/abtdemob.html Ari's Bookmark Tool Demo Bookmarks within a file point to each other to establish the parent/child relationship that forms the hierarchical tree you see in the bookmark pane. Although bookmarks are linked together in this hierarchical tree, each bookmark must have its own Action or Dest. Those bookmarks that have no Action and no Dest will not do anything when you click on them, although they can be useful in visually grouping other bookmarks in the hierarchy. You cannot point to a bookmark from outside a file. You can have an Action that jumps to the same place as the Action in the bookmark and thus seems to reference the bookmark, but if you change the bookmark's Action, the other Action will not jump to that new place. You can use named destinations. A named destination is basically a name that is associated with a particular page in a file. So, in my file any.pdf, I can define a name "Anything" that points to page 5 in that file. A bookmark in any.pdf can have an Action or Dest that points to the named destination "Anything". When I click the bookmark, Acrobat will look up the name "Anything", see that it is tied to page 5, and jump to page 5. A bookmark or link or form field in another PDF file can have an action that points to the named destination "Anything" in the file "any.pdf". When I click this bookmark, link, or form field, Acrobat looks for any.pdf and opens it. Acrobat then looks inside any.pdf to see if the named destination "Anything" is associated with a particular page. Acrobat will see that inside any.pdf that the name "Anything" is tied to page 5 and will then jump to page 5. Later, I can change any.pdf so that the name "Anything" points to page 8. Now, my bookmark inside any.pdf that points to "Anything" and the bookmark, link, or form field in a different file that points to "Anything" inside any.pdf will all end up on page 8. So, your external bookmark, link, or form field does not point to the bookmark, but it points to the same thing that the bookmark points to, in this case "Anything". All will go to the new page as the association between the name "Anything" and a page is changed. The interesting thing is what happens when the named destination is not defined. Let us imagine that in my external file, I make my link point to the named destination "AnySong" inside the file any.pdf. When I click the link, Acrobat will open any.pdf. Acrobat will then look to see what page the named destination "AnySong" is associated with. Acrobat will discover that "AnySong" is not defined, and will leave any.pdf displaying page 1. Acrobat will not display an error, and so you may not realize that you were not intended to end up on page 1. For more on problems with missing named destinations, see: http://www.dionis.com/tutorials/goodlink.html Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis Reference reading: table 6.34 about "Outline Entry Attributes" and section 6.8 "Actions" of the PDF 1.3 Spec. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 18:00:17-GMT,3693;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18205 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:00:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19447; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:51:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:48:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19238; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:48:29 -0500 Message-ID: <02bb01bf127e$5f450000$3e64513e@portos> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting *.PPT-colors disappear Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:47:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry I'm a little late for the answer but my mails are stacking... Have you tried to use PDF Writer? It's an easy soluiton. We do a lot of PDF from PowerPoint, use PDF Writer and never had a problem. We use charts..graphics, colored text, vector graphics, etc... The only thing is semi-transparent colors. They appear as plain colors. The rest is perfect. Hope it helps. Carlos. ************************************************************** La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos Gonzalez Marti Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel: + 34 915 344 348 Fax: + 34 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************** -----Mensaje original----- De: Nancy Bromfield Para: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Fecha: martes 28 de septiembre de 1999 19:45 Asunto: RE: [PDF] Exporting *.PPT-colors disappear > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >I meant to save my message as a draft before sending it to the list. I'm >sorry. >Here are the specifics: >I have a schematic diagram in color in PowerPoint. There is some colored >text as well. When I select File>Print and click Print to File using >AdobePSDefaultPostScriptPrinter, sometimes the text disappears, and >sometimes the color in the diagram comes in black & white (with the text). >When I select File>Print and click Print to File using >AdobePSGenericPostScriptPrinter, the same thing happens. I downloaded the >printer drivers from the Adobe website. >Any suggestions? > > > >________________* NOW SHOWING @ PDFzone.com * __________________ > <- Coming Soon: QuarkXPress 4.1 to offer "improved PDF support" -> ><- New PDF features: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/QuarkXPress41.html -> >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 18:00:18-GMT,3058;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18207 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:00:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19443; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:51:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:48:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19272; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:48:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991009135432.00904920@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 13:54:32 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Creating bookmarks with links to other files In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991009102059.013f7720@dionis.com> References: <199910091341.IAA31398@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >There have been some misconceptions about bookmarks floating on this list >that I would like to clear up. > And what a super job of it ... Thanks! The original thread, it turns out, referred to links from PDF to external Word documents. If I understand the problem correctly, it's something like this: You have MyIndex.PDF that contains links to MyWordFile.DOC Linking directly to the DOC file works fine, but let's say that MyWordFile.DOC contains a bookmark named MyArticle The original Word file can hyperlink to MyArticle internally and, I'm pretty sure, externally; that is, if there's a hyperlink to MyArticle in the Word file and I PDFMaker the Word file to MyWordFile.PDF, the link works; I click it in the PDF, it takes me to MyArticle. If the link is from MyIndex.PDF to MyWordFile.DOC#MyArticle, it seems not to work (and in fact seems not to work from one Office document to another ... a hyperlink in PowerPoint pointing to MyWordFile.DOC#MyArticle returns a File Not Found error. I suspect it's trying to locate a file called MyWordFile.Doc#Article ... which it won't locate, of course. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 18:00:24-GMT,2450;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18213 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:00:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20029; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:55:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:54:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19943; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:54:30 -0500 From: Claus Fieker Message-Id: <199910091754.NAA27744@primus.math.TU-Berlin.DE> Subject: [PDF] Problems with OpenAction To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:54:25 +0200 (METDST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL44+ (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I tried to use OpenAction to just open a different file at some location, basically using the following file: 1 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 2 0 R /OpenAction << /Type /Action /S /GoToR /D [0019 /XYZ null null 1.2 ] /F (kashref.pdf) /NewWindow false >> >> endobj of course with the neccessary xref, ... entries. Now, what happens is the following: (acroread 3.0, solaris version): Warning: charset "STRING" not supported, using "ISO8859-1". Exited with error code: 0x400e0009. (acroread 4.0, linux): I eventually seen my 2nd file - but only after some message window appears, telling me something about a bad parameter. If I use \NewWindow true, it works - BUT now I have a superflous window lurking around. To the best of my knowlegde, my programm fits the actual specification. Has anyone any clue/ hint? Sincerly Claus Fieker __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 19:37:49-GMT,3952;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19815 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:37:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27144; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:29:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:26:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26942; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:26:44 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: TIFFs in Quark Date: Sat, 9 Oct 99 15:26:06 -0000 x-sender: ideaslists@mail.ideasdtp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: David Creamer To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: <19991009192632.NKW19487@[12.77.152.197]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> I have a problem with creating PDF files using distiller when the quark >> files have bitmap tiffs in. If the tiffs have had the background turned to >> none in quark the resulting PDF will show the background to white but when >> printed to a rip the background will go to none again. >Sure, Quark containers need a background color of white or a % of color, or >bitmapped tiff files will have jagged edges. The whites in the bitmap become >transparent. > >With eps images, you don't need a color in the container. > >The default setting in Quark was originally none, but changed to white >because so many people got bit with bad film output (including me). Perhaps the file is still in Grayscale mode, and not actually in Bitmapped mode? (It still might LOOK like a bitmapped file.) I ran a test in Quark 3.32r5 and 4.04 using Acrobat 4.0 (I didn't have time to reinstall Acrobat 3.X) and had no problem creating and viewing correct PDF files. I tried a number of combinations: process color and spot color BG box, with and without runaround; picture box and text BG item; colored (spot and process) and black line art (the TIFF was using LXW compression, also); and print and press optimized settings in Acrobat. BTW: Quark (in its normal printing) does NOT need a white background for printing bitmapped TIFF images--only grayscale and color images require a background color. The whites in a bitmap do, indeed, become transparent--and the the image WILL print correctly and at high-resolution (based on the original file). Also, as mentioned, EPS images do not need a color container, but, then again, they cannot be colored or tinted directly in Quark. Using EPS images for line art often means have a black version, a white version, and whatever other colors are required. I find bitmapped TIFFs much more convenient. Finally, if I'm not mistaken, the default (as in a new preference file) for Quark picture boxes has alway been 0% Black and (then) White. (Although I've been using Quark since 1987, my memory gets fuzzy with exact version details and changes with anything older than 6 months.) ;-> David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. www.ideasdtp.com Publishing Consultant & Trainer Apple Solution Expert Member Authorized Quark Trainer Authorized Adobe Training Provider For Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Acrobat, and PageMaker __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1999 20:30:07-GMT,5398;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20703 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:30:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31659; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 15:24:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 9 Oct 1999 15:23:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31563; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 15:23:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199910092023.NAA19337@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 13:23:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: TIFFs in Quark From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>> I have a problem with creating PDF files using distiller when the quark >>> files have bitmap tiffs in. If the tiffs have had the background turned to >>> none in quark the resulting PDF will show the background to white but when >>> printed to a rip the background will go to none again. > >>Sure, Quark containers need a background color of white or a % of color, or >>bitmapped tiff files will have jagged edges. The whites in the bitmap become >>transparent. >> >>With eps images, you don't need a color in the container. >> >>The default setting in Quark was originally none, but changed to white >>because so many people got bit with bad film output (including me). > > Perhaps the file is still in Grayscale mode, and not actually in > Bitmapped mode? (It still might LOOK like a bitmapped file.) > > I ran a test in Quark 3.32r5 and 4.04 using Acrobat 4.0 (I didn't have > time to reinstall Acrobat 3.X) and had no problem creating and viewing > correct PDF files. I tried a number of combinations: process color and > spot color BG box, with and without runaround; picture box and text BG > item; colored (spot and process) and black line art (the TIFF was using > LXW compression, also); and print and press optimized settings in Acrobat. > > BTW: Quark (in its normal printing) does NOT need a white background for > printing bitmapped TIFF images--only grayscale and color images require a > background color. The whites in a bitmap do, indeed, become > transparent--and the the image WILL print correctly and at > high-resolution (based on the original file). Grrrr. That's what I get for misreading the question. Based on the result, I *assumed -- and you know what that means* that he meant grayscale or color tiff images. The offending behavior indicated the use of one of those file types. > Also, as mentioned, EPS images do not need a color container, but, then > again, they cannot be colored or tinted directly in Quark. Using EPS > images for line art often means have a black version, a white version, > and whatever other colors are required. I find bitmapped TIFFs much more > convenient. FWIW, It may be more convenient to have bitmap images, but the quality still isn't as good as vector art. Plus, there are compatibility problems. I had a file just yesterday submitted in EPS format (it was reverse type on a colored field). The customer placed it on top of a similar colored field in PageMaker. Here's the catch. While the screen builds read the same, they didn't print the same. I finally had to ask the customer for an Illustrator file, and we removed the color build. > Finally, if I'm not mistaken, the default (as in a new preference file) > for Quark picture boxes has alway been 0% Black and (then) White. > (Although I've been using Quark since 1987, my memory gets fuzzy with > exact version details and changes with anything older than 6 months.) ;-> At one point the default was none. When I was a customer of InfoMania a number of years ago, I had two sets of film (and proofs) run for a tabloid-size brochure. Needless to say, the background color in the containers was none, I had jagged edges on the photos, and a bill for several hundred dollars to re-output the film and proofs. Besides losing my shorts on the job, I lost the customer as the project was then delivered late. I wish my memory was fuzzy sometimes. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 10-Oct-1999 5:12:14-GMT,2240;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29259 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 23:12:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05099; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:05:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:02:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04860; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:02:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199910100502.BAA07633@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] AIX is IBM Unix Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:07:43 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Cool Jim" asked; > >What is an AIX box. Is it unix related? IBM makes a server thingee that runs on a special Unix OS called AIX. Scitex and a few other vendors sell solutions on this little power plant. me, i know unix is evil. and linux makes me quiver in the corner like a scared little kitten (from a developers perspective anyway, since i can't sue anyone if it crashed our applications) - and until apple OSX, stayed far far away from the likes of it. my two belgian francs. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org 011 32 3 444 3921 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 10-Oct-1999 14:23:59-GMT,2641;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07952 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:23:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10810; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:16:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:10:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10308; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:10:29 -0500 From: myke@bmts.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991009192632.NKW19487@[12.77.152.197]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:10:23 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Distribution of Reader Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA10304 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am assembling a 60 page document for a local non-profit group and there is some discussion about distributing a copy as a pdf document. If we distribute (on Zip or CD), I also want to make available to the end user a Reader for Mac, Windows 95 and perhaps 3.1. I use Acrobat 4.0 and I currently prurchased the CD version of the Reader hoping I could simply duplicate the versions of the Reader I needed. Unlike 3.0 however, the various versions of the Reader appear to be hidden; only the Mac installer comes up (on my Mac). I assume that if I went to a PC the Windows versions would show up. I find this problematic. I want to put together the whole package here at work without downloading alternate versions or seeking out a PC. Am I missing something? Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on distributing the Reader? Things to look out for? I would appreciate your response. Myke Dyer New Media Consultation RR # 1 Priceville, ON Canada N0C 1K0 p. 519-369-2908 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 10-Oct-1999 14:44:43-GMT,4622;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08287 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:44:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12805; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:38:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:37:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12717; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:37:16 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: TIFFs and EPS' in Quark Date: Sun, 10 Oct 99 10:33:45 -0400 x-sender: ideaslists@mail.ideasdtp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: David Creamer To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: <19991010143702.NDXN16897@[12.77.152.9]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> Also, as mentioned, EPS images do not need a color container, but, then >> again, they cannot be colored or tinted directly in Quark. Using EPS >> images for line art often means have a black version, a white version, >> and whatever other colors are required. I find bitmapped TIFFs much more >> convenient. >FWIW, It may be more convenient to have bitmap images, but the quality still >isn't as good as vector art. Plus, there are compatibility problems. I had a >file just yesterday submitted in EPS format (it was reverse type on a >colored field). The customer placed it on top of a similar colored field in >PageMaker. Here's the catch. While the screen builds read the same, they >didn't print the same. I finally had to ask the customer for an Illustrator >file, and we removed the color build. Yes, vector is always desireable since it is more scalable--however, an Photoshop EPS image is no more scalable than a TIFF. (I know you know this, Rich--this reply is for any others who might not know.) Regarding your color problem, normally if the CMYK specs are identical, the output SHOULD be identical regardless of the file format--but PageMaker output always can be an interesting experience. Interestingly, in Quark, when I use the same CMYK numbers for a background image (either a Photoshop image or Quark item) and a vector foreground image, I usually get DIFFERENT screen preview--but the output is correct. This has also worked with the opposite layering (a Photoshop image on top of a vector/Quark BG). When you say they didn't print the same, what type of printer/imagesetter were you using? And was it an Adobe RIP processing the file? [PS: (Again, for other readers) I have seen this problem selecting Pantone SPOT colors in older programs, even with process separation marked. That's why I always use a CMYK-only color guide for process jobs, not converted Pantone spot colors.] >> Finally, if I'm not mistaken, the default (as in a new preference file) >> for Quark picture boxes has alway been 0% Black and (then) White. >> (Although I've been using Quark since 1987, my memory gets fuzzy with >> exact version details and changes with anything older than 6 months.) ;-> >At one point the default was none. When I was a customer of InfoMania a >number of years ago, I had two sets of film (and proofs) run for a >tabloid-size brochure. Needless to say, the background color in the >containers was none, I had jagged edges on the photos, and a bill for >several hundred dollars to re-output the film and proofs. >Besides losing my shorts on the job, I lost the customer as the project was >then delivered late. Rich, do you know what version that "None" preference was in? I still think *Quark's* default for version 3+ was always 0% Black and then White. I (easily) could be wrong, but I suspect a *modified* preference file. Luckily, I've never been bitten as hard you with that bug--I still have my shorts. ;-> Dave Creamer I.D.E.A.S. www.ideasdtp.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 10-Oct-1999 14:54:30-GMT,5338;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08430 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13565; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:47:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:46:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13443; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:46:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199910101446.HAA03823@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 07:46:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: TIFFs and EPS' in Quark From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>> Also, as mentioned, EPS images do not need a color container, but, then >>> again, they cannot be colored or tinted directly in Quark. Using EPS >>> images for line art often means have a black version, a white version, >>> and whatever other colors are required. I find bitmapped TIFFs much more >>> convenient. > >>FWIW, It may be more convenient to have bitmap images, but the quality still >>isn't as good as vector art. Plus, there are compatibility problems. I had a >>file just yesterday submitted in EPS format (it was reverse type on a >>colored field). The customer placed it on top of a similar colored field in >>PageMaker. Here's the catch. While the screen builds read the same, they >>didn't print the same. I finally had to ask the customer for an Illustrator >>file, and we removed the color build. > > Yes, vector is always desireable since it is more scalable--however, an > Photoshop EPS image is no more scalable than a TIFF. (I know you know > this, Rich--this reply is for any others who might not know.) > > Regarding your color problem, normally if the CMYK specs are identical, > the output SHOULD be identical regardless of the file format--but > PageMaker output always can be an interesting experience. It's not my favorite program. > Interestingly, in Quark, when I use the same CMYK numbers for a > background image (either a Photoshop image or Quark item) and a vector > foreground image, I usually get DIFFERENT screen preview--but the output > is correct. This has also worked with the opposite layering (a Photoshop > image on top of a vector/Quark BG). I have had the same experience. > When you say they didn't print the same, what type of > printer/imagesetter were you using? And was it an Adobe RIP processing > the file? Agfa Selectset 7000 with Adobe PS print driver. > [PS: (Again, for other readers) I have seen this problem selecting > Pantone SPOT colors in older programs, even with process separation > marked. That's why I always use a CMYK-only color guide for process jobs, > not converted Pantone spot colors.] > >>> Finally, if I'm not mistaken, the default (as in a new preference file) >>> for Quark picture boxes has alway been 0% Black and (then) White. >>> (Although I've been using Quark since 1987, my memory gets fuzzy with >>> exact version details and changes with anything older than 6 months.) ;-> > >>At one point the default was none. When I was a customer of InfoMania a >>number of years ago, I had two sets of film (and proofs) run for a >>tabloid-size brochure. Needless to say, the background color in the >>containers was none, I had jagged edges on the photos, and a bill for >>several hundred dollars to re-output the film and proofs. >>Besides losing my shorts on the job, I lost the customer as the project was >>then delivered late. > > Rich, do you know what version that "None" preference was in? I still > think *Quark's* default for version 3+ was always 0% Black and then > White. I (easily) could be wrong, but I suspect a *modified* preference > file. Luckily, I've never been bitten as hard you with that bug--I still > have my shorts. ;-> I believe it was in 90 or 91...probably version 3.1. Since then, I bought a new pair of shorts. > Dave Creamer > I.D.E.A.S. > www.ideasdtp.com Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 10-Oct-1999 14:57:41-GMT,3659;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08474 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:57:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14093; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:52:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:51:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13928; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:51:47 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distribution of Reader Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:50:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bf132e$de14ed40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am assembling a 60 page document for a local non-profit > group and there is some discussion about distributing a copy > as a pdf document. > > If we distribute (on Zip or CD), I also want to make > available to the end user a Reader for Mac, Windows 95 and > perhaps 3.1. I use Acrobat 4.0 and I currently prurchased the > CD version of the Reader hoping I could simply duplicate the > versions of the Reader I needed. > > Unlike 3.0 however, the various versions of the Reader appear > to be hidden; only the Mac installer comes up (on my Mac). I > assume that if I went to a PC the Windows versions would show > up. I find this problematic. I want to put together the whole > package here at work without downloading alternate versions > or seeking out a PC. This is the neat and tidy way to prepare a CDROM. Arguably the only esthetically pleasing way to do it, and the only way which avoids customer confusion. The best way to cut a CDROM for dual Mac and Windows use is to create a hybrid. The Windows and Mac partitions are effectively independent with their own list of names. However, if you create this with Toast, it can still share data. Remember to choose "joliet" format for the Windows partition if you want long file names. So you should read the Windows data on Windows and prepare the Windows image. This is moved to the Mac in preparation for cutting both partitions with Toast (simultaneously). After cutting, be sure to test on both platforms. Things to watch for are making sure that PDF files open on a double click. On the Mac, this means setting a file type of "PDF ". On Windows, this means ensuring that all your file names end ".pdf". If you want the CDROM to also be usable on other platforms (e.g. UNIX, Windows 3.1), you must stick exclusively to short (8.3) file names with no spaces and entirely in upper case. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1999 15:30:42-GMT,2339;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19207 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 09:30:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16578; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:20:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:18:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16393; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:18:21 -0500 X400-Received: by mta MIMTA in /c=be/admd=isa/prmd=KB/; Relayed; 08 Oct 1999 16:58:14 +0200 X400-Received: by /c=be/admd=isa/prmd=KB/; Relayed; 08 Oct 1999 16:58:14 +0200 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=be/admd=isa/prmd=KB/; 06ECE37FE068602B-MIMTA] Content-Identifier: 06ECE37FE068602B Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: GEERT.POELS@kb.be X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <06ECE37FE068602B*/c=be/admd=isa/prmd=kb/o=KBMI/s=U38357/@MHS> Date: 08 Oct 1999 16:58:14 +0200 From: Geert Poels To: pdf-digest Subject: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I've been trying to create a document with bookmarks which open other PDF-files from within MS Word97. So far the bookmarks were created but I don't manage to get them to link to another PDF-file instead of inside the same document. I could of course do it manually with exchange :*)) Any hints ? Geert __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 10-Oct-1999 17:24:55-GMT,2091;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10854 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25497; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:19:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:17:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25288; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:16:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:21:41 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Distribution of Reader Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Am I missing something? Does anyone have any experience or >thoughts on distributing the Reader? Things to look out for? I'd suggest looking at this page and document, if you haven't already: "Guide to running Reader 4 from CD" ° http://www.PDFzone.com/resources/tips/tip0051.html rgds ~ Kurt ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 5:05:23-GMT,3578;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA23530 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:05:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15905; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:49:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:46:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15684; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:46:54 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01bf13a4$494b5020$63ff31ca@alby> From: "nikki" To: Subject: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:51:29 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF1411.3EFE0E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF1411.3EFE0E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Help!! I am creating an Online manual for a customer of mine. Due to the nature of the manual I have created over 100 PDF files. The problem I have is that each file has over 100 common bookmarks = linking the different files. I need a quick and easy way to copy the "common" bookmarks to each of = the files. Does anybody know how I can do this?? I have been given a few ideas but none seem to work with Acrobat 4 = (Windows Platform) Thanking You Nick ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF1411.3EFE0E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I am creating an Online = manual for a=20 customer of mine.
Due to the nature of the manual I have created over = 100
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The problem I have is that each file has over 100 = common=20 bookmarks linking the different files.
I need a quick and easy way to = copy=20 the "common" bookmarks to each of the files.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF1411.3EFE0E60-- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 6:05:59-GMT,8510;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24854 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:05:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA20505; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:54:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:51:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20238; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:51:18 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991008233255.00c02ad0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:49:54 -0700 To: framers@frameusers.com, framers@omsys.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com, acrobat@blueworld.com, CTP Pressroom From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Adobe PostScript Driver for Windows'95/98 - AdobePS 4.3.1 Now Available for Download Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ AdobePS 4.3.1, the Adobe PostScript Driver for Windows'95/98 for use with Adobe PostScript Level 2 and Adobe PostScript 3-equipped printers, Adobe Acrobat 4 Distiller, and Adobe InDesign 1.0 is now available for download from the Adobe web site from the following URL: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/pdrvwin.htm See below for a full description of this driver (for the English version -- all normally available language versions are available, though). This driver provides some minor additional functionality above that provided by AdobePS 4.3, but it does fix a very major problem associated with AdobePS 4.3 in which systems crashed during generation of PostScript due to running out of virtual memory. This problem occurred most often when applications such as Adobe FrameMaker and Microsoft Word were sending data to the print driver containing an exceptionally large number of .EPS (encapsulated PostScript) graphics OR when Adobe FrameMaker was sending "Acrobat Data" to the driver for purposes of generating bookmarked PDF files. This problem has been fully fixed!!! Note that installation of this driver will reset "device options" (including optional trays, memory, image settings, etc.) as well as some PostScript options including communications protocols (binary, ASCII, BCP, TCP, etc.). Note all such settings BEFORE installing AdobePS 4.3.1 on top of any prior version of AdobePS 4.x. Updating to this version is most strongly recommended for anyone who is already running AdobePS 4.3!! Please note that users should not upgrade from AdobePS 4.2.x if they are using Adobe Acrobat 3.0x Distiller AND are distilling documents with any TrueType fonts! Users of Acrobat Distiller 3.0x who also distill documents with TrueType fonts are urged to either upgrade to Acrobat 4 (and thus be able to use AdobePS 4.3.1) or continue to use AdobePS 4.2.4, 4.2.5, or 4.2.6. AdobePS 4.2.6 continues to be posted as an interim convenience to such users for the near future. We most strongly thank users who provided feedback to us that enabled us to isolate and fix the AdobePS 4.3 memory problem. - Dov Isaacs ===================================== PostScript Printer Driver AdobePS 4.3.1 for Windows 95 and Windows 98 -- English The Adobe PostScript printer driver (AdobePS) enables you to print documents from any Windows 95 or Windows 98 application to a PostScript printer. AdobePS provides several features not found in the standard Windows 95 or Windows 98 PostScript driver, such as watermark printing with localized text, additional n-up options, better support for printing the "euro" (European currency character), and greater support for many popular applications. AdobePS drivers include full support for Adobe PostScript Level 3 fonts, in addition to PostScript Level 1 and Level 2 fonts. AdobePS 4.3.1 provides full support for Windows 98 -- including Windows 98 Image Color Matching 2.0, full sRGB color support with Office97, and conversion of sRGB input profiles into CRDs (Color Rendering Dictionaries) for Windows 98. AdobePS 4.3.1 is a new release and now has a localized version for Windows 95 and 98 Japanese. AdobePS 4.3.1 enables Adobe Acrobat 4.0 to search for TrueType text; allows users to override application settings for Image Color Matching processing; provides an easy-to-use, InstallShield-based installer; provides support for printing the Euro character currency symbol for printers; and supports remote printing to WebReady printers connected to the internet. Finally, AdobePS 4.3.1 provides easy access to Adobe's Web site via Adobe Online. Adobe recommends using this driver only with PostScript Level 2 and Level 3 devices. To determine a device's PostScript Level, refer to the documentation included with it or contact the manufacturer. If you have a PostScript Level 1 device, you can use the Microsoft PostScript printer driver included with Windows. System Requirements Microsoft Windows 95 or Microsoft Windows 98 (English language versions only) Any printer that includes Adobe PostScript Level 2 or Adobe PostScript 3 A PostScript Printer Description (PPD) file for your printer Installation Instructions After downloading a ".exe" file in Windows, double-click on the ".exe" file to access the file's contents. Need help with downloading? See our Downloading Help documents. To install this driver, you must have a PostScript Printer Description (PPD) file for your printer. You can get PPD files from the following sources: -- A floppy disk that was included with your printer. If you cannot find this disk, contact your printer manufacturer for a replacement. -- The printer manufacturer's Web site or FTP site. -- Adobe's online services such as the Adobe Web site. NOTE: Adobe redistributes a number of PPD files for Mac OS and Windows as a courtesy to Adobe customers but does not guarantee to have the PPD file you need. -- Your service bureau or print shop. Your printer manufacturer is ultimately responsible for providing you with a PPD file. Neither Adobe nor your service provider is obligated to provide you with a PPD file. Installation Warning If you are using the Microsoft Client for Netware Networks with Windows 98, you must first disconnect any network drives before adding a new printer. If you do not, you may experience a failure in a system program called Mprexe.exe or your system may stop responding during the installation. This problem does not occur when using Novell Client for Netware or when no drives are currently connected to Novell servers using the Microsoft Client. To disconnect a drive, right-click on that drive and choose Disconnect from the pop-up menu. To install AdobePS 4.3.1: 1. Have your PPD file ready, either on a floppy disk or on your hard disk before you install AdobePS. 2. Exit from all applications. 3. Double-click the Aps43eng.exe file to begin the installation. 4. Follow the on-screen instructions to complete the installation. Product Printer Drivers Version 4.3.1 Platform Windows Filename aps431eng.exe Released On 10/05/99 Filesize 2.4 MB Download the file from USA ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/printerdrivers/win/4.x/drivers/aps431eng.exe Japan ftp://ftp-pac.adobe.com/pub/adobe/printerdrivers/win/4.x/drivers/aps431eng.exe __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 7:58:03-GMT,3295;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26865 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:57:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28191; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 02:49:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 02:47:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28051; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 02:47:17 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991011004142.00aa43c0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:45:59 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] Wrong Font? Cc: Justin Blocksom In-Reply-To: <199910082037.PAA17018@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Distiller does NOT need any local information about a font in order to properly distill a PostScript file if the font is indeed embedded in the PostScript file. The reason Acrobat does provide for the specification of font locations is for dealing with PostScript files in which Type 1 fonts are missing or assumed to be otherwise available on the host computer system for embedding. And NO, the AdobePS drivers (not PostScript) do not always embed Type 1 fonts in the PostScript stream. There is an option in AdobePS 4.x to not download Type 1 fonts at all. BTW, this is the only means by which truely non-subsetted Type 1 fonts can be embedded in PDF files created from Windows'9X-based documents from GDI applications. - Dov At 10/8/99 01:38 PM , Justin Blocksom wrote: > Reply to: RE: [PDF] Wrong Font? > >But a PostScript file is a PostScript file, whatever the platform. > >Provided the fonts are embedded I can't think of any problems > >from cross-platform distilling. > > > >Aandi > >If that is true, why does Distiller _need_ to know where the font resources >are IF the fonts are embedded in the PostScript? >I always thought it looked there first for the font information, or has this changed >with 4.0? Also, PostScript _always_ embeds fonts on the PC right? If not, where >is the option to _not embed_? > >Justin Blocksom >Digital Production Group >Printing & Publications Corp. >jblocksom@printandpub.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 9:10:55-GMT,2507;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28032 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 03:10:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03836; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:02:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03311; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:00:22 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:58:55 +0200 From: "Ina Isaac" To: Subject: [PDF] Creating custom stamps Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA03298 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi there I am a total novice using Acrobat 4, please help. We are in the process of converting thousands of files to pdf format as part of our document management system. We use distiller to add a "Controlled Copy" watermark to each page, to indicate that the document is the official version. This works beautifully when converting Office 97 files. The problem comes in when converting scanned images (Capture cannot write to Distiller). It seems our only solution is to add a stamp to each page. I have tried creating stamps strictly according to the instructions, but the problem is that the stamp is not transparent, so it sits on top of the document like a blob. How can I get this stamp to have a transparent background ? Ina Isaac Engineering systems - Lethabo Power Station Tel (016) 420-5670 Fax (016) 420-5858 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 10:59:04-GMT,1678;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29770 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:59:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19200; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 05:52:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 05:49:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18970; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 05:49:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199910111049.GAA01809@mx01.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:41:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong Font? From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > truely sorry but i could not let that one go look it up __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 12:24:01-GMT,2833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01213 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:24:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26646; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:17:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:15:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26427; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:15:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating custom stamps Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 05:19:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >...This works beautifully when converting Office 97 >files. The problem comes in when converting scanned images (Capture >cannot write to Distiller). It seems our only solution is to add a >stamp to each page. I have tried creating stamps strictly according to >the instructions, but the problem is that the stamp is not transparent, >so it sits on top of the document like a blob. How can I get this >stamp to have a transparent background ? As I posted on the Capture listserv (I didn't get Kurt's warning in time), you basically have two options: 1) Capture your pages to PDF/Normal, then add the watermark in "post-Capture" via Infodata's Compose Overlay tool, or other preferred method. Reprinting to Postscript may be a good option too, but your PDF/Normal files better be VERY clean. 2) If the page layouts are quite simple, you might want to OCR with another application to generate a Word file (as opposed to going directly to PDF), clean up and format the pages, then Distill as per your current method. Lots of folks do this -- although lots of folks go to this effort and then use PDFWriter, which seems strange to me, but hey! Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 13:34:44-GMT,2851;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02455 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:34:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00316; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:21:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:17:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00021; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:17:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:20:34 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating custom stamps Cc: "Ina Isaac" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA00017 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:58 AM +0200 10/11/99, Ina Isaac wrote: >It seems our only solution is to add a stamp to each page. I have >tried creating stamps strictly according to the instructions, but >the problem is that the stamp is not transparent, so it sits on top >of the document like a blob. How can I get this stamp to have a >transparent background ? > > You might want to check into StampPDF and StampPDF Batch from Digital Applications () which will gladly do what you want either manually as a plug-in or in "batch" mode as a command line tool. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 13:41:54-GMT,2817;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02594 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:41:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01780; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:35:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:33:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01512; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:33:07 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating custom stamps Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:32:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bf13ed$067e9880$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am a total novice using Acrobat 4, please help. We are in > the process of converting thousands of files to pdf format as > part of our document management system. We use distiller to > add a "Controlled Copy" watermark to each page, to indicate > that the document is the official version. This works > beautifully when converting Office 97 files. The problem > comes in when converting scanned images (Capture cannot write > to Distiller). It seems our only solution is to add a stamp > to each page. I have tried creating stamps strictly > according to the instructions, but the problem is that the > stamp is not transparent, so it sits on top of the document > like a blob. How can I get this stamp to have a > transparent background ? It will depend on the application used to create the PDF. Some of them put a white box behind the page - invisible when printed but useless as a stamp. Try a different application; or try to remove the box with the graphic touch-up tool (solid arrow) in Acrobat 4.0. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 14:05:38-GMT,2280;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03064 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:05:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03683; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:54:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:50:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03161; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:50:43 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991011095638.0096f4c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:56:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Distribution of Reader In-Reply-To: References: <19991009192632.NKW19487@[12.77.152.197]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Start by reading Mark A's excellent PDF on this subject; it's available at www.pdfzone.com >If we distribute (on Zip or CD), I also want to make available to the end user a Reader for Mac, Windows 95 and perhaps 3.1. I use Acrobat 4.0 and I currently prurchased the CD version of the Reader hoping I could simply duplicate the versions of the Reader I needed. > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 14:06:38-GMT,2424;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03104 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:06:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03938; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:57:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:53:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03558; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:53:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991011095908.00970d50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:59:08 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: TIFFs and EPS' in Quark In-Reply-To: <19991010143702.NDXN16897@[12.77.152.9]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Regarding your color problem, normally if the CMYK specs are identical, >the output SHOULD be identical regardless of the file format--but >PageMaker output always can be an interesting experience. I just ran into a similar sort of problem in a different context. In that case it was a matter of choosing the right color management options in the driver and apps involved. A CMS may treat bitmaps and vectors differently, which can lead to this kind of disparity, and an app might, I suppose, ignore EPS altogether for purposes of color management. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 15:01:23-GMT,1964;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04489 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:01:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09326; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:50:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:44:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08827; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:44:31 -0500 Message-ID: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F7825E7B4@sungard-finance.fr> From: URIA Emmanuel To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat multi-open Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:58:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everybody, I just want to know for my application if we can open more than one acrobat core at a time, on a Win95/98/NT computer ? I just want to read more than one document at the same time, and print them. Thanks -- Emmanuel URIA Sungard Finance SAS 173, Bureaux de la colline Batiment E 92213 Saint Cloud Cedex FRANCE Phone : +33 (1) 49 11 31 46 Fax : +33 (1) 49 11 31 99 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 15:07:58-GMT,2080;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04675 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:07:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10668; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:02:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:59:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10230; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:59:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jo Crawford To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Creating bookmarks with links to other files Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:58:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ How do you create named destinations? And how do you link to them from another PDF? Jo > From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg [SMTP:DanielAri@Dionis.com] > > You can use named destinations. A named destination is basically a name > that is associated with a particular page in a file. So, in my file > any.pdf, I can define a name "Anything" that points to page 5 in that > file. A bookmark in any.pdf can have an Action or Dest that points to the > > named destination "Anything". __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 16:05:26-GMT,2773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06427 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:05:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16620; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:59:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:57:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16421; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:57:02 -0500 Message-ID: <38020883.2A2829E0@esrin.esa.it> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:55:48 +0200 From: Jurgen Scholz Organization: European Space Agency (ESA) - ESRIN ADM-IM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Convert HTML to PDF (automatically under UNIX) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Folks, I am wondering whether somebody could give me a hint whether a product is existing that does the following job: I have an application running on a Sun Solaris workstation that can create only HTML output (reports in various formats, to be exact), but the users would like to receive nicely formatted reports with page breaks, pre-defined headers and footers, and a choice of landscape or portrait in, you guessed it, PDF format I.e., I am looking for either a kind of html-to-ps > distiller with the option to define the page layout, or for a specific package that does the same job, eventually creating directly PDF. Does HTMLDOC provide this capability ? Any idea on other products ? Thanks, Jurgen -- Juergen Scholz EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY ESRIN ADM-IMP Phone: +39-06-94180-434 Fax: +39-06-94180-432 Mobile:+39-348-33 32 260 via Galileo Galilei I-00044 Frascati(RM) E-Mail: Jurgen.Scholz@esrin.esa.it Internet: jurgen@esrin.esa.it *** DISCLAIMER: Opinions expressed might not be those of the European Space Agency. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 16:10:05-GMT,2124;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06659 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:10:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17413; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:04:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:03:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17286; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:03:52 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Convert HTML to PDF (automatically under UNIX) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:55:48 +0200." <38020883.2A2829E0@esrin.esa.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:03:47 +0100 Message-ID: <28348.939657827@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:55:48 +0200, Jurgen Scholz wrote: > Folks, [...] > I.e., I am looking for either a kind of html-to-ps > distiller with the > option to define the page layout, or for a specific package that does > the same job, eventually creating directly PDF. > > Does HTMLDOC provide this capability ? > > Any idea on other products ? I don't know about htmldoc, but html2ps probably will. http://www.tdb.uu.se/~jan/html2ps.html Chris __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 16:51:22-GMT,2607;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07832 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:51:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21204; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:41:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:39:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21000; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:39:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38020883.2A2829E0@esrin.esa.it> References: <38020883.2A2829E0@esrin.esa.it> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:41:13 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Convert HTML to PDF (automatically under UNIX) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA20996 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 5:55 PM +0200 10/11/99, Jurgen Scholz wrote: >I.e., I am looking for either a kind of html-to-ps > distiller with the >option to define the page layout, or for a specific package that does >the same job, eventually creating directly PDF. > >Does HTMLDOC provide this capability ? > Yup, HTMLDoc should do just fine for the task. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1999 23:57:43-GMT,2024;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20328 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27999; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:49:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:46:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27751; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:46:35 -0500 Message-Id: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E019B80B2@torex169.tor.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: Post to PDF listserve Subject: [PDF] PDF Maker and Powerpoint Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:14:32 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi - I'm wondering about functionality of PDF Maker when doing tabloid size powerpoint files. First of all, Powerpoint (PPT '97, SR2) doesn't have a pre-set page setting for 11x17. It seems you have to choose CUSTOM to obtain this page size. If you use PDF Maker to get to PDF, your image is cutoff to landscape 8.5 x 11. Does PDF maker not do tabloid size art? Is this because PPT insists that Tabloid be a custom size?? Thanks for any wisdom - Rebecca __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1999 1:37:51-GMT,2929;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22560 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:37:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA30901; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:22:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:21:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA30733; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:21:22 -0500 Message-ID: <38027E4A.B5889858@teleweb.at> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 02:18:19 +0200 From: "Wilhelm G. JANY" Organization: WJT- Wien X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Maker and Powerpoint References: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E019B80B2@torex169.tor.allied.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ hallo about your question: I dont know, why many questions in this forum is about poweroint, pls work in ppt, print in ppt, distribute online in ppt best regards, mfG / Wilhelm G. Jany - WJT > jany@teleweb.at > > Phone: +43 -1 5223002 13 > Mobil: 0699 / 10 458 459 > Internet: http://www.ipix.at Callaway, Rebecca wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi - > > I'm wondering about functionality of PDF Maker when doing tabloid size > powerpoint files. > > First of all, Powerpoint (PPT '97, SR2) doesn't have a pre-set page setting > for 11x17. It seems you have to choose CUSTOM to obtain this page size. > > If you use PDF Maker to get to PDF, your image is cutoff to landscape 8.5 x > 11. > > Does PDF maker not do tabloid size art? Is this because PPT insists that > Tabloid be a custom size?? > > Thanks for any wisdom - > > Rebecca > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> > <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> > ___________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1999 10:54:43-GMT,2796;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA03829 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 04:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09405; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 05:46:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Oct 1999 05:43:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09092; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 05:43:08 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:24:00 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Creating bookmarks with links to other files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In message , Jo Crawford wrote: >How do you create named destinations? And how do you link to them from >another PDF? You can create named destinations using the /DEST pdfmark (see the pdfmark Reference Manual) in your PostScript file. With Acrobat 4.0 you can create individual destinations by using the Window>Show Destinations window. You can also use our Name It plug-in, which allows easy creation of named destinations from the user interface or in batch mode (see our web site for details). Links to named destinations can be made by creating a link as normal and then selecting the named destination from a list. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1999 13:11:10-GMT,2086;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06261 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:11:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20137; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:04:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:02:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19935; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:02:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991012090824.00973500@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:08:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Maker and Powerpoint In-Reply-To: <38027E4A.B5889858@teleweb.at> References: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E019B80B2@torex169.tor.allied.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >about your question: I dont know, why many questions in this forum is about >poweroint, pls work in ppt, print in ppt, >distribute online in ppt Why? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1999 13:11:17-GMT,2911;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06269 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:11:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20160; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:04:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:01:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19774; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:01:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991012090720.00971760@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:07:20 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Maker and Powerpoint In-Reply-To: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E019B80B2@torex169.tor.alli ed.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Unlike word processors where generally the page size set in the printer driver becomes the page size for the app, PowerPoint and most other graphic apps divorce the two. You have your page or drawing size in PowerPont, and you have the paper in your printer that you choose to print it on. The two are all but divorced. If you decide to print a 2" x 3" custom sized presentation on ledger size paper, PowerPoint will let you. If you decide to print a ledger sized presentatin on 2x3 paper, it'll let you, but you'll be missing a bit of information on the printout, of course. I don't have the latest version of PDFMaker, so I'm not sure what facilities it offers; I suspect you'll need to set the driver's page size to something that matches your custom size in PowerPoint. >First of all, Powerpoint (PPT '97, SR2) doesn't have a pre-set page setting >for 11x17. It seems you have to choose CUSTOM to obtain this page size. > >If you use PDF Maker to get to PDF, your image is cutoff to landscape 8.5 x >11. > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1999 15:20:59-GMT,1989;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09457 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:20:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32225; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:08:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:03:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31697; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:03:15 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991012104752.013ea310@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:50:27 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Copying Bookmarks In-Reply-To: <199910121043.FAA09130@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Copying "common" bookmarks from one PDF file into a folder full of PDF files is exactly what Ari's Bookmark Tool was created for. A Mac and a Windows version are available. Please download a free demo: http://www.dionis.com/demo/abtdemob.html Ari's Bookmark Tool Demo Best Regards Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1999 20:19:50-GMT,3005;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17883 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:19:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27434; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:08:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:06:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27233; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:06:16 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:06:07 -0700 From: "Cutler, Wendy SDES:EX" Subject: FW: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23C0EC485@ocean.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I give up. I must have made it up. But I know I wrote to Adobe about it as a suggestion that they allow for linking to (Word) documents without bookmarks, on a network drive, and I quoted from their Customer Support Database article. But I did it on their site, so don't have a copy of my note, and today I'm unable to find the article or the Technical Announcement referring to it. All I can find today is the advice to put the document to which you want to link in the same LAN directory. Could they have decided from my request that the bookmark in the linked-to document was unrealistic and so they changed their advice?? The article I can find today is 323892 in the http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/database.html database. The summary paragraph in that article says: "While Word can create links to files on network servers, Acrobat PDFMaker cannot convert these links to PDF." * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Social Development and Economic Security * mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca *(604) 660-1591 Fax: (604)775-0846 I have never heard of that limitation. Where is that reference. Bob Moran > Hyperlinks in Word97 to external LAN files don't automatically become > hyperlinks in the converted PDF file unless they link to a bookmark. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1999 4:45:26-GMT,3883;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29557 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:45:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03855; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:37:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:33:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03566; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:33:43 -0500 Message-ID: <38040B9B.1B50E99F@dconstructs.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:33:31 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: FW: FW: [PDF] Creating bookmarks with links to other files References: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23C0EC485@ocean.gov.bc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the info. Bob Moran "Cutler, Wendy SDES:EX" wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I give up. I must have made it up. But I know I wrote to Adobe about it as a > suggestion that they allow for linking to (Word) documents without > bookmarks, on a network drive, and I quoted from their Customer Support > Database article. But I did it on their site, so don't have a copy of my > note, and today I'm unable to find the article or the Technical Announcement > referring to it. All I can find today is the advice to put the document to > which you want to link in the same LAN directory. Could they have decided > from my request that the bookmark in the linked-to document was unrealistic > and so they changed their advice?? > > The article I can find today is 323892 in the > http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/database.html database. > The summary paragraph in that article says: > "While Word can create links to files on network servers, Acrobat PDFMaker > cannot convert these links to PDF." > > * ^ * ^ * > Wendy Cutler > Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support > ITB, Ministry of Social Development and Economic Security > * mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca > *(604) 660-1591 Fax: (604)775-0846 > > I have never heard of that limitation. Where is that reference. > > Bob Moran > > > Hyperlinks in Word97 to external LAN files don't automatically become > > hyperlinks in the converted PDF file unless they link to a bookmark. > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> > <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> > ___________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1999 12:28:30-GMT,1887;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA08758 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 06:27:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03219; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:18:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:14:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02874; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:14:21 -0500 Message-ID: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C30297D6@NTSERVER1> From: Neil Swallow To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Overprinting Text Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:20:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a problem when printing through quark 3.32 to a PS file which I then distil. The overprinting text is knocking out of the background images. I am using LaserWriter 8.3.4 and printing out to a linotype delta rip. Should I be using a different printer driver or is something else causing the problem? Thanks Neil __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1999 13:07:49-GMT,2489;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09552 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:07:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07008; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:56:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:54:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06870; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:54:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199910131254.FAA13282@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 05:54:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Overprinting Text From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a problem when printing through quark 3.32 to a PS file which I then > distil. The overprinting text is knocking out of the background images. I am > using LaserWriter 8.3.4 and printing out to a linotype delta rip. Should I > be using a different printer driver or is something else causing the > problem? If the text is black, and your using Distiller 4, the type will knock out due to a bug. This will be fixed, probably in the maintenance release. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1999 14:19:02-GMT,3100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11076 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:19:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15104; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:07:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:04:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14766; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:04:57 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991013210325.00882d10@mozart.inet.co.th> X-Sender: cooper@mozart.inet.co.th X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:03:25 +0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Doug Cooper Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe PostScript Driver for Windows'95/98 - AdobePS 4.3.1 Now Available for Download Cc: Dov Isaacs In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991008233255.00c02ad0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 22:49 10/10/99 -0700, Dov Isaacs wrote: > This problem has been fully fixed!!! Ok, installed 4.3.1 and dragged a 330 page Word doc with 1-2,000 internal links over to the Acrobat icon. PDFmaker than chugs for two hours, grinds through all its items, then pops up the alert "Distiller: Failed to create PDF file." The distiller logfile refers to a PDFmark with a negative page reference. On inspection, the output ps file contains about a dozen such. Once they're edited out, the ps file can be distilled, but produces a blank page. To my surprise, all the ps file contains is about 1,200 pdfmarks. Sigh... Q: is this known behavior? Q: is there a workaround? Q: is there any way to test a large file with internal links incrementally? (pdfmaker fails on short samples as soon as a link fails) Q: is there a tool that either provides the functionality Adobe promises, or lets me find out where my Word source errs? Thanks, Doug Cooper __________________________________________________ 1425 VP Tower, 21/45 Soi Chawakun Rangnam Road, Rajthevi, Bangkok, 10400 doug@th.net (662) 246-8946 fax (662) 246-8789 Southeast Asian Software Research Center, Bangkok http://seasrc.th.net --> SEASRC Web site http://seasrc.th.net/sealang --> SEALANG Web site __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1999 14:21:10-GMT,2313;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11140 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:21:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08437; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:10:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:08:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08200; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:08:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393AFB@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Overprinting Text Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:07:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ <> I would definitely try a more recent LaserWriter driver, especially since the 8.3.4 series driver is at least 4-5 years old. Todd __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1999 15:06:12-GMT,3329;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12267 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20991; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:56:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:54:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20817; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:54:12 -0500 Message-ID: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C30297D7@NTSERVER1> From: Neil Swallow To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Overprinting Text Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:59:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry I thought I had supplied all the relevant information but I am using Distiller 3 but I will try a more recent laser writer Cheers Neil -----Original Message----- From: Rich Sprague [SMTP:rsprague@infomania.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 1:55 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Overprinting Text The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a problem when printing through quark 3.32 to a PS file which I then > distil. The overprinting text is knocking out of the background images. I am > using LaserWriter 8.3.4 and printing out to a linotype delta rip. Should I > be using a different printer driver or is something else causing the > problem? If the text is black, and your using Distiller 4, the type will knock out due to a bug. This will be fixed, probably in the maintenance release. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1999 16:46:07-GMT,3617;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15332 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23956; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:22:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:15:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23021; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:15:55 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991013081048.00ab9440@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:13:52 -0700 To: Doug Cooper From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Adobe PostScript Driver for Windows'95/98 - AdobePS 4.3.1 Now Available for Download Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Dov Isaacs In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991013210325.00882d10@mozart.inet.co.th> References: <4.2.0.58.19991008233255.00c02ad0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Doug, The problem you refer to is not related to the AdobePS 4.3 PostScript passthrough problem. If it was, you never would have gotten as far as the Distiller without your system crashing. I will pass your posting on to our Acrobat QA group to see if they know anything about the symptom you are reporting. However, I would first ask if you are using Microsoft Office 2000. PDFmaker is not yet compatible with Office 2000 and hence the version of Microsoft Word that is part of Office 2000. - Dov At 10/13/99 07:03 AM , Doug Cooper wrote: >At 22:49 10/10/99 -0700, Dov Isaacs wrote: > > This problem has been fully fixed!!! > >Ok, installed 4.3.1 and dragged a 330 page Word doc with 1-2,000 >internal links over to the Acrobat icon. PDFmaker than chugs >for two hours, grinds through all its items, then pops up the >alert "Distiller: Failed to create PDF file." > > The distiller logfile refers to a PDFmark with a negative page reference. >On inspection, the output ps file contains about a dozen such. Once >they're edited out, the ps file can be distilled, but produces a blank >page. To my surprise, all the ps file contains is about 1,200 pdfmarks. >Sigh... > Q: is this known behavior? > Q: is there a workaround? > Q: is there any way to test a large file with internal links > incrementally? (pdfmaker fails on short samples as soon as > a link fails) > Q: is there a tool that either provides the functionality Adobe > promises, or lets me find out where my Word source errs? > > Thanks, > Doug Cooper __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1999 20:15:07-GMT,2118;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21431 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:15:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26114; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:05:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:02:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25748; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:02:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3804E643.9E80F6FB@compLitpress.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:06:29 -0700 From: Arthur Luehrmann Organization: Computer Literacy Press X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption References: <19991009192632.NKW19487@[12.77.152.197]> <3.0.5.32.19991011095638.0096f4c0@pop.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know of any literature on the RC4 encryption of passwords that Acrobat uses? What I'm looking for is an unbiased estimate of the amount of computer power and time it might take to break the security. Any pointers will be appreciated. Thanks. -- Arthur Luehrmann, Publisher Computer Literacy Press (510) 644-2400 fax (510) 845-0322 E-mail: Luehrman@compLitPress.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Oct-1999 22:04:02-GMT,5086;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24241 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:04:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07377; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:46:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:43:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06932; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:43:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199910132143.RAA26981@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] losing overprints. Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:45:10 -0800 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ well, for one, the ovcerprint settings never really get writen properly in the PostScript that you write when separations are turned off (that is, when you make composite PostScript from Quark XPress, the trapping and overprint information is not written into the PostScript, so, you never really "lose" them when you process this PostScript using Acrobat Distiller 3.0 or 4.0, as they were never there... So, you must either open the composite PDF file and use PitStop to change the objects or type to overprint (so they will be useable) or use a different authoring application (like InDesign) that does support writing proper overprints to composite PostScript - and dooes so in such a way that is understaood and preserved by Acrobat Distiller. >I have a problem when printing through quark 3.32 to a PS file which I then >distil. The overprinting text is knocking out of the background images. I am >using LaserWriter 8.3.4 and printing out to a linotype delta rip. Should I >be using a different printer driver or is something else causing the >problem? I would like to point out another issue - sometime ago, i posted a comparison between using Acrobat 4.0 export to eps and Acrobat 3.0 Exchange export to eps. I posted several example files, and showed the differences, which in a nutshell pointed out that there are serious bugs in "export to eps" part of Acrobat 4.0 that caused overprints to be lost that were indeed okay while in the PDF file. this example PDF can be found at; http://www.jahn.org/pdf_x/QXDwAcro34epsSeps.pdf the name "QXDwAcro34epsSeps" is my messy shorthand for Quark Xpress Document with Acrobat 3 and 4 eps with Seperations on as a PDF file - this file is about 68k, was built by me, and can be used without permission - the original composite PDF that these eps files were created fom is at; http://www.jahn.org/pdf_x/AiEPSDIstillOpOn.pdf This PDF was distilled using Acrobat Distiller 4.0, with a modification on the Press Optimised job option settings - while i keep the "Preserve Overprint Settings" on, I make sure the "Preserve Halftone Information" off, as i had heard from Peter Svderlund at Enfocus that this created a few "issues" and Halftone information was neither present or required. i built an Adobe Illustrator file and placed it into Quark and turned seperations on (so i would have my "control" file - you know, so i could see "how it is supposed to work") this file can be found (also as a set of seperated pages in a single PDF file) at; http://www.jahn.org/pdf_x/QuarkSepsOn.pdf so, i built an illustrator file, and distilled it, then checked to see if the overprint settings were there using Enfocus PitStop...which reported everything as i expected and set up in Illustrator...in fact, they are there as well even when i "Save as PDF (using the Press Optimised selection) from Adobe Illustrator 8.0. ...so i then exported to eps (from Acrobat Exchange 3.0.1 and acrobat 4.0 - the 3.0 Level 1 eps behaved fine.... Acrobat 3 PostScript level 1 encoded eps export - GOOD Acrobat 3 PostScript level 2 encoded eps export - BAD - Composite color on each seperation Acrobat 4 PostScript level 1 encoded eps export - BAD - Overprint Settings messed up Acrobat 4 PostScript level 2 encoded eps export - BAD - Overprint Settings messed up hope this helps. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org 011 32 3 444 3921 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 2:16:00-GMT,2856;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00197 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:15:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04457; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:02:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:58:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03851; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:58:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3804E643.9E80F6FB@compLitpress.com> References: <19991009192632.NKW19487@[12.77.152.197]> <3.0.5.32.19991011095638.0096f4c0@pop.iglou.com> <3804E643.9E80F6FB@compLitpress.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:55:43 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA03847 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 1:06 PM -0700 10/13/99, Arthur Luehrmann wrote: >Does anyone know of any literature on the RC4 encryption of passwords >that Acrobat uses? What I'm looking for is an unbiased estimate of the >amount of computer power and time it might take to break the security. >Any pointers will be appreciated. Thanks. > How about the FAQ for the sci.crypt newsgroup at , and the Crypto SnakeOil FAQ at . Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 4:53:23-GMT,1735;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03551 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:53:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18764; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:40:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:37:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18558; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:37:11 -0500 From: TerryFCSI@aol.com Message-ID: <0.497096d9.2536b7e2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 00:36:50 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Break a password? If you let them print it they can print it to a postscript file and voila! Free document!!! So unless everything is read only forget password protection. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 9:08:10-GMT,1777;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08503 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:08:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04502; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:58:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:52:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04122; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: <001601bf1621$5e7dd560$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: References: <0.497096d9.2536b7e2@aol.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:51:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dont tell everyone ! Paul __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 10:19:30-GMT,3409;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09638 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:14:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09351; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:06:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:03:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09087; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:02:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3805AA6F.8DE62E13@skios.es> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:03:27 +0200 From: Jose Enrique Ochoa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es]C-QXW04104 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Overprinting Text References: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C30297D6@NTSERVER1> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0A9E3E70E9875E8DCCE2D74D" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Este es un mensaje multipartes en formato MIME. --------------0A9E3E70E9875E8DCCE2D74D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Neil Swallow escribió: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I have a problem when printing through quark 3.32 to a PS file which I then > distil. The overprinting text is knocking out of the background images. I am > using LaserWriter 8.3.4 and printing out to a linotype delta rip. Should I > be using a different printer driver or is something else causing the > problem? > > Thanks Neil > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ > <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> > <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> > ___________________________________________________________________ The problem is on your RIP configuration (a bug of the document) and nothing is wrong on Distiller. Jose E. Ochoa Fotomecanica Ochoa. Madrid. SPAIN. --------------0A9E3E70E9875E8DCCE2D74D Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Tarjeta de Jose Enrique Ochoa Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Jose Enrique Ochoa n: Ochoa;Jose Enrique org: Fotomecanica Ochoa adr: Julian Camarillo, 26;;;Madrid;Madrid;28037;Spain email;internet: ochoa@skios.es tel;work: 34.1.327.21.18 tel;fax: 34.1.754.28.83 x-mozilla-cpt: ;-1 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------0A9E3E70E9875E8DCCE2D74D-- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 12:45:58-GMT,2771;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA12450 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:45:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21692; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:38:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:36:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21468; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:35:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Font Encoding Problem Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:34:53 +0100 Message-ID: <005c01bf1640$840fa8c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am using Acrobat 4 on a Mac and I am having a problem with font > encoding when I use Distiller. > > I have fonts set to Embed All Fonts for both PDFWriter and Distiller. > > If I print to PDF using PDFWriter, then my type 1 fonts show as > MacRoman and they display properly. > > If I print using AdobePS 8.6 or LaserWriter 8.6.5 and then Distill > the ps file, the fonts show as either Windows or Custom and the > display looks terrible. Ignore the encoding. This has no relevance here, unless you are seeing the WRONG characters. The encoding does not affect the quality of what you see in any way, only which characters are chosen from the font. > > I have looked through all the Adobe documentation, searched their > site and searched pdfzone and still can't find out why this happens > and how to make distiller use MacRoman encoding. So, forget the encoding and focus on other differences between the fonts. Unless you are seeing the wrong characters. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 12:51:41-GMT,3228;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA12574 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:51:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22591; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:45:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:44:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22352; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:44:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:44:03 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] Font Encoding Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I am using Acrobat 4 on a Mac and I am having a problem with font >encoding when I use Distiller. > >I have fonts set to Embed All Fonts for both PDFWriter and Distiller. > >If I print to PDF using PDFWriter, then my type 1 fonts show as >MacRoman and they display properly. > >If I print using AdobePS 8.6 or LaserWriter 8.6.5 and then Distill >the ps file, the fonts show as either Windows or Custom and the >display looks terrible. > >I have looked through all the Adobe documentation, searched their >site and searched pdfzone and still can't find out why this happens >and how to make distiller use MacRoman encoding. > >I had been using PDFWriter for most of my work but now that the >volume is increasing I need to be able to automate my work flow >which will require me to use Distiller. It sounds like you are creating the PostScript properly by embedding All fonts but there are also font embedding choices in Distiller 4 that you need to take note of. Under the menu choice "Settings -> Job Options" choose the "Fonts" tab and make sure "Embed All Fonts" is checked. Just because all fonts are embedded into the PS file does not mean that they will be embedded into the PDF file automatically (the default setting in Distiller 4 is to NOT have that box checked). You may also be interested in Rich Sprague's recent article "The Scoop on Font Embedding Restrictions" http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/fonts1.html ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 13:26:34-GMT,1977;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13379 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25866; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:15:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:12:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25593; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:12:38 -0500 Message-ID: <4FFB2DC0BF24D311906100C00D00CC98DE76@LAZYSV04> From: David Farbey To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Where's the Distiller 3.02 upgrade gone? Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:14:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I was looking for the Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe web site and although I followed all the relevant links, I couldn't find it. There were only Distiller 4.0 upgrades available. Does anyone know where I can get this upgrade, at the Adobe site or anywhere else? Many thanks, David Farbey Technical Writer Lazy Software Ltd david.farbey@lazysoft.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 13:43:23-GMT,2606;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13746 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27851; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:31:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:30:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27649; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:30:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199910141330.GAA15495@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:30:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Where's the Distiller 3.02 upgrade gone? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I was looking for the Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe web site and > although I followed all the relevant links, I couldn't find it. There were > only Distiller 4.0 upgrades available. > > Does anyone know where I can get this upgrade, at the Adobe site or anywhere > else? > > Many thanks, > > David Farbey > Technical Writer > Lazy Software Ltd > david.farbey@lazysoft.com I mentioned this to Adobe and was told that they were overlooked when they updated their web site, and would be back soon. They are also missing from the Adobe ftp site. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 14:12:07-GMT,2440;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14385 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:12:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30793; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:57:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:55:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30621; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:55:48 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4FFB2DC0BF24D311906100C00D00CC98DE76@LAZYSV04> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:54:31 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Where's the Distiller 3.02 upgrade gone? Cc: David Farbey Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ David, instead of the http: access, you might try to access the Adobe FTP server (ftp.adobe.com) and find your way there. Of course, it still could be that the file has been removed from the server, but I do have some doubts about that. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I was looking for the Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe web site and >although I followed all the relevant links, I couldn't find it. There were >only Distiller 4.0 upgrades available. > >Does anyone know where I can get this upgrade, at the Adobe site or anywhere >else? __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 16:08:16-GMT,2827;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17302 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:08:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11987; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:55:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:50:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11290; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:50:20 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:49:25 -0400 From: Matthew Snow To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF accessibility for the blind Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Has anyone out there used the Acrobat Access View plug-in for the visually-impaired? Does it work or are there other products out there that anyone knows about that works with text readers for the blind? Thanks for your help. Matt Snow Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles Webmaster Commonwealth Web accessibility for the disabled team member 617.351.9755 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 16:52:57-GMT,2327;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18823 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17813; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:41:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:39:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17611; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:39:28 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991014124524.0097c100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:45:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF accessibility for the blind In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I haven't used the plug-in, but have experimented with the web and email-based versions. I deliberately fed them both PDFs that would be quite difficult to translate from a page layout back to text and was quite startled at how well they worked. >Has anyone out there used the Acrobat Access View plug-in for the visually-impaired? Does it work or are there other products out there that anyone knows about that works with text readers for the blind? > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 17:10:33-GMT,3186;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19341 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:10:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20810; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:03:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:00:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20370; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:00:35 -0500 Message-ID: <006101bf159c$7158f500$484801d8@tpsitulsa.com> From: "Fadel F. Iskander" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19991014124524.0097c100@pop.iglou.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF accessibility for the blind. Braille? Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:00:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, Does anyone know if there is a PDF to Braille printer or service provider? Thanks Fadel F. Iskander, Ph.D. Vice President TPSi -- a Computer Output Management Organization http://www.tpsitulsa.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Rindsberg To: Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF accessibility for the blind > I haven't used the plug-in, but have experimented with the web and > email-based versions. > I deliberately fed them both PDFs that would be quite difficult to > translate from a page layout back to text and was quite startled at how > well they worked. > > > >Has anyone out there used the Acrobat Access View plug-in for the > visually-impaired? Does it work or are there other products out there that > anyone knows about that works with text readers for the blind? > > > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com > > Developers of ZAP! > Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus > http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ > <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> > <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 18:36:49-GMT,2438;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21762 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:36:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29325; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:26:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:23:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29074; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:23:35 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991014112210.00ac1da0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:23:05 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Where's the Distiller 3.02 upgrade gone? In-Reply-To: <4FFB2DC0BF24D311906100C00D00CC98DE76@LAZYSV04> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It was temporarily removed by mistake during the recent "remake" of the Adobe web site. It should be back online within a week at most. - Dov At 10/14/99 06:14 AM , you wrote: >I was looking for the Distiller 3.02 upgrade on the Adobe web site and >although I followed all the relevant links, I couldn't find it. There were >only Distiller 4.0 upgrades available. > >Does anyone know where I can get this upgrade, at the Adobe site or anywhere >else? > >Many thanks, > >David Farbey >Technical Writer >Lazy Software Ltd >david.farbey@lazysoft.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Oct-1999 13:00:14-GMT,2917;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09387 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:00:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05764; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:44:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:43:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05668; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:43:14 -0500 X400-Received: by mta MIMTA in /c=be/admd=isa/prmd=KB/; Relayed; 13 Oct 1999 12:14:08 +0200 X400-Received: by /c=be/admd=isa/prmd=KB/; Relayed; 13 Oct 1999 12:14:08 +0200 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=be/admd=isa/prmd=KB/; 00FF538045B70004-MIMTA] Content-Identifier: 00FF538045B70004 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: GEERT.POELS@kb.be X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <00FF538045B70004*/c=be/admd=isa/prmd=kb/o=KBMI/s=U38357/@MHS> Date: 13 Oct 1999 12:14:08 +0200 From: Geert Poels To: pdf-digest Subject: [PDF] Re: Creating bookmarks with links to other files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The 'insert hyperlink' is truly powerful indeed. It's even more versatile since one can easily create an application that writes a plain HTML-file with nothing but links (). This file can be opened in Word and converted to PDF with the links. I've tested the tool mentioned by Daniel-Ari Feinberg and it is exactly what I was looking for. Perhaps what I was trying to accomplish wasn't described correctly. I'm looking for a way to automate the proces of creating bookmarks with an Action attached. The action would always be an 'Open file'. I though of Word since it is possible to create links in pdf-docs from hyperlinks in word. I guessed it would be easy to mark a certain piece of text (containing a link to a file) as a certain style and thus creating PDF-action-bookmarks by adding this style to the Bookmarks-tab of PDF-maker. This didn't do the job. Geert __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ______________ <- Rich Sprague delivers the scoop on font licensing & embedding -> <- HOT!> http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/index.html -> ___________________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1999 12:29:04-GMT,2391;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA12116 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:29:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18931; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:09:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:05:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18548; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:04:58 -0500 From: afarnham@erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: afarnham@pop.erols.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:04:52 -0400 To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Font Encoding Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am using Acrobat 4 on a Mac and I am having a problem with font encoding when I use Distiller. I have fonts set to Embed All Fonts for both PDFWriter and Distiller. If I print to PDF using PDFWriter, then my type 1 fonts show as MacRoman and they display properly. If I print using AdobePS 8.6 or LaserWriter 8.6.5 and then Distill the ps file, the fonts show as either Windows or Custom and the display looks terrible. I have looked through all the Adobe documentation, searched their site and searched pdfzone and still can't find out why this happens and how to make distiller use MacRoman encoding. I had been using PDFWriter for most of my work but now that the volume is increasing I need to be able to automate my work flow which will require me to use Distiller. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Al __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 20:36:55-GMT,1833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25269 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:36:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08520; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:24:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:21:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08147; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:21:47 -0500 From: TerryFCSI@aol.com Message-ID: <0.66a073fc.2537954a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:21:30 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I screamed about this (security issue) on the adobe board and several others and no one else seems to care. I can't believe more people aren't outraged at this, there is absolutely no protection on for your work with Acrobat if you allow anyone to print your documents. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 20:40:02-GMT,3464;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25332 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:40:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09429; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:32:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:30:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09184; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:30:54 -0500 Message-ID: <38063F98.DFB33A13@esource.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:40:04 -0600 From: John Heiland X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Copy text from pdf - hard line endings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, We're trying to use pdf in a publishing environment where authors compose with Word, then the production folks do layout and a few rounds of edits in Quark. By creating pdfs of the final documents, authors should be able to grab text from the final editted document without site-licensing Quark. Problem: When we copy text from the Quark document, words hypenated at line endings are concatenated (but with the hypen in place) and we get hard returns for all the line endings. The text is free flowing in Quark, i.e. we don't H&J the line breaks by hand. Here's an example -- QUARK VERSION: In the commercial sector, the rate of growth in lighting energy use will be slowed by remaining utility demand-side management programs, federal lamp and bal- last efficiency standards, efficiency improve- ment trends, a predicted decline in the annual gain of floor space, and a slowing of the annu- al increase in operating hours.4 The U.S. EIA predicts annual growth of 0.6 percent for U.S. commercial lighting energy use from 1995 to 2015. COPIED FROM PDF AND PASTED: In the commercial sector, the rate of growth in lighting energy use will be slowed by remaining utility demand-side management programs, federal lamp and bal-last efficiency standards, efficiency improve-ment trends, a predicted decline in the annual gain of floor space, and a slowing of the annu-al increase in operating hours.4 The U.S. EIA predicts annual growth of 0.6 percent for U.S. commercial lighting energy use from 1995 to 2015. Anything we could do differently in the distilling of these files, or in the way we copy and paste the text? We're Mac based (versions 1,2, 3 and 4 of Acrobat), and have access to Wintel acrobat third party tools on a few workstations. Thanks, John Heiland Information Designer E Source jheiland@esource.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 20:48:20-GMT,2388;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25505 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:48:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10423; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:41:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:40:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10169; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:39:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199910142039.PAA10163@everglades.binc.net> Date: 14 Oct 99 16:40:41 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA10165 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption >I screamed about this (security issue) on the adobe board and several others >and no one else seems to care. I can't believe more people aren't outraged >at this, there is absolutely no protection on for your work with Acrobat if >you allow anyone to print your documents. What in the real world can be done? If you leave the door unlocked, (aka. printing) there's nothing anybody can do. If you can get postscript out of it, you can do anything you want with it. The creator's essentially left the door open, not Adobe. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 21:05:04-GMT,3344;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25920 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:05:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12449; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:57:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:55:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12262; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:55:24 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991014134406.00be43e0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:55:17 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Cc: TerryFCSI@aol.com In-Reply-To: <0.66a073fc.2537954a@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10/14/99 01:21 PM , TerryFCSI@aol.com wrote: >I screamed about this (security issue) on the adobe board and several others >and no one else seems to care. I can't believe more people aren't outraged >at this, there is absolutely no protection on for your work with Acrobat if >you allow anyone to print your documents. Now that you have screamed about this and have expressed your outrage, how would you like to assist us by recommending a means by which you can print a document, yet prevent its textual contents from being captured via distillation of the resultant PostScript? (Note that "refrying" a PDF file does not preserve any hyperlinks, annotations, etc., a major part of the PDF file's added value!) The only means that I know to do this, partially, would be to force all supersecure documents into a "print as image" mode in printing such that text and vector content of the document would not be retrievable. The document would always be output at device resolution as (hopefully compressed) bitmaps to the output device. But then, I would readily imagine that users would be "outraged at this" due to the absolutely tremendous performance hit that you take in printing. So, scream some reasonable, workable ideas at us as to how to allow printing and at the same time disallow content capture. We are listening and we do care. And we do await a good, reasonable proposal on how to allow both full content protection and printing. - Dov __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 21:07:59-GMT,2495;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26038 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:07:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13032; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:01:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:00:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12839; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:59:59 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C46@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:43:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm not real sure what they (Adobe) could do about it. If you allow people to print a PDF document, then they must be able to select whatever driver they desire. If they have Acrobat, and if they pick the right driver, then you are correct - they get a copy of your file. That is the nature of files that are produced by a print driver. If that is a problem, then you had better disallow printing of your document in the security settings. > ---------- > From: TerryFCSI@aol.com[SMTP:TerryFCSI@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 3:21 PM > Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption > > I screamed about this (security issue) on the adobe board and several > others > and no one else seems to care. I can't believe more people aren't > outraged > at this, there is absolutely no protection on for your work with > Acrobat if > you allow anyone to print your documents. > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 21:08:12-GMT,1934;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26042 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:08:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13118; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:01:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:00:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12884; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:00:06 -0500 X-Sender: diana@pop.interport.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:58:52 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Diana Holm Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear List, FileOpen PDF has a feature that disables printing to file, without prohibiting printing to paper. This prevents the 're-frying' of PDFs. See http://www.fileopen.com/fileopenpdf.html Please contact me off-list with any questions. Diana Holm Director of Marketing FileOpen Systems Inc. www.fileopen.com 101 West 85th Street, Suite 1-4 New York, NY 10024 212-501-9567 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 21:32:32-GMT,2797;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26621 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15510; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:23:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:22:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15266; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:22:03 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991014140553.00bf35b0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:21:50 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Cc: Diana Holm In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10/14/99 01:58 PM , you wrote: >Dear List, > >FileOpen PDF has a feature that disables printing to file, without >prohibiting printing to paper. This prevents the 're-frying' of PDFs. See >http://www.fileopen.com/fileopenpdf.html > >Please contact me off-list with any questions. > > > >Diana Holm >Director of Marketing >FileOpen Systems Inc. >www.fileopen.com > >101 West 85th Street, Suite 1-4 >New York, NY 10024 >212-501-9567 Diana, Preventing "printing to file" does not prevent refrying by itself. The mechanism in Windows for printing to the Acrobat Distiller printer does not look like a "print to file" operation to the application program. Thus, unless you doing more than just disabling the "print to file" check button, you can still get PostScript to the Distiller! And there are still ways of capturing that PostScript (such as to an dummy NetWare printing queue). - Dov __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 21:52:29-GMT,2532;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27107 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:52:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17231; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:41:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:40:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17094; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:40:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:40:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF accessibility for the blind From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991014213834.KXMU16721.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Matthew, I have used Adobe's Visually Impaired access site http://access.adobe.com/ and set up many of my clients with it. No complaints as of yet... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html ---------- > > Has anyone out there used the Acrobat Access View plug-in for the > visually-impaired? Does it work or are there other products out there that > anyone knows about that works with text readers for the blind? > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 22:11:52-GMT,2352;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27607 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:11:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19379; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:02:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:01:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19194; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:01:39 -0500 From: TerryFCSI@aol.com Message-ID: <0.603392c6.2537acaf@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:01:19 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I find it hard to believe that there is no solution to this issue. The file has got to be talking to the print driver. Someone in an earlier exchange stated that in earlier versions of Acrobat you couldn't print pdf to a postscript driver. Third party vendors are offering other solutions and I'll bet you (isaacs@adobe.com (if you work in San Jose, CA)) a cup of your favorite coffee at the place your choosing, that a third party vendor will have a suitable solution within the next 12 months. Sorry to be so adamant about this but this issue affects how I do business. I would settle for a way to convert the final pdf into an image file (without scanning 20,000 some odd pages) at least that way they would have to scan it and reformat it and graphics wouldn't be as sharp. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 22:15:15-GMT,1715;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27683 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:15:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20094; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:08:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:07:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19943; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:07:25 -0500 From: TerryFCSI@aol.com Message-ID: <0.74f3db4a.2537ae08@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:07:04 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Could you explain a little more about how this works. I took a look at your site but couldn't figure out how your software did this. Thanks for the info! __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 22:16:24-GMT,3204;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27736 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:16:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20130; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:08:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:07:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20009; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:07:50 -0500 X-Sender: diana@pop.interport.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:06:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Diana Holm Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dov, Of course, printing to Distiller is not the same as printing to File: one is a driver, the other a port. The FileOpen PDF client denies printing in, among others, the following situations: - The selected printer is on port "File:" - The selected printer uses a driver named "Acrobat Distiller" or "Adobe PDFWriter" FileOpen PDF also checks that the internal name of the printer driver is not one of the above. Interestingly, Acrobat itself does not do so. Printing to PDFWriter from Acrobat generates an error. But one can rename the PDFWriter driver to, say, XYZWriter (using Start>Settings>Printers) and Acrobat will allow the creation of another PDF via PDFWriter. Your second point about intercepting the print stream itself is valid. As far as we know, this can be done. In most cases (all cases where a non-PostScript printer is being used), however, the results of such an effort would be a bitmap and hence little better than a PrintScreen image of the page or a capture from the printed document. Best, Diana > >Diana, > >Preventing "printing to file" does not prevent refrying by itself. >The mechanism in Windows for printing to the Acrobat Distiller printer >does not look like a "print to file" operation to the application program. >Thus, unless you doing more than just disabling the "print to file" check >button, you can still get PostScript to the Distiller! And there are >still ways of capturing that PostScript (such as to an dummy NetWare >printing queue). > > - Dov Diana Holm Director of Marketing FileOpen Systems Inc. www.fileopen.com 101 West 85th Street, Suite 1-4 New York, NY 10024 212-501-9567 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 22:16:56-GMT,2792;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27757 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:16:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20325; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:10:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:09:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20189; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:09:12 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:08:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bf1690$96fc92e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C46@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > I screamed about this (security issue) on the adobe board > and several > > others > > and no one else seems to care. I can't believe more people aren't > > outraged > > at this, there is absolutely no protection on for your work with > > Acrobat if > > you allow anyone to print your documents. Even if you come up with a robust solution to prevent redistilling, it would be useless. You only need to come up with another product which works the same way as Acrobat - perhaps Envoy? Then you could print to the other format, and print back to PDF. I can't share your outrage. If a file can be printed, or even read on screen, it can be typed in again. Once a document is allowed on screen, all that security can be is a minor inconvenience to someone wanting to preserve, or reconstruct, the data. Some people become obsessive about the details of the copy protection, and the time it might take to crack, but if you think about it that's just nonsense. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 22:53:11-GMT,2885;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28664 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23461; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:43:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:41:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23182; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:41:50 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991014184750.0097c5f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:47:50 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The FileOpen PDF client denies printing in, among others, the following >situations: > >Your second point about intercepting the print stream itself is valid. As >far as we know, this can be done. In most cases (all cases where a >non-PostScript printer is being used), however, the results of such an >effort would be a bitmap and hence little better than a PrintScreen image >of the page or a capture from the printed document. I think Dov was referring to what happens if (for example) I set up a printer on LPT1 but before printing, do NET USE LPT1: \\MyServer\PrinterQueueName The result is most definitley not a bitmap, assuming I'm using a PS driver, and it's possible to capture the PS at the server before passing it on to the printer (most simply, by having the driver attached to the queue on the server connected to FILE:) I suppose there's some way to disallow redirected printers, but then you'd be disallowing legitimate printing as well, I'd think. 'Tis a nasty little problem indeed ... Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 22:58:54-GMT,3503;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28793 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:58:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24469; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:52:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:51:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24282; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:51:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991014185714.0097e190@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:57:14 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption In-Reply-To: <000a01bf1690$96fc92e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C46@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >wanting to preserve, or reconstruct, the data. Some people become >obsessive about the details of the copy protection, and the time it might >take to crack, but if you think about it that's just nonsense. > Lawyers, to name but a few. ;-) We're making PDFs right now, basically of a company's product literature. Which, as near as I can tell, they'd hand out cheerfully enough to anybody who asked for it. But at the last minute, the lawyers have gotten into the act and demanded that before the end user sees the PDF version (this to be distributed on CD, mind you) they must read a dense page of legalese, then click either an I Agree button or a Quit button. OK. We can do that. But guys, what proof have you that anybody clicked anything, in the event of a dispute? Why not have them sign a piece of paper when your sales guy drops off the CD? You want the sales guys to visit them, right? That's one of the REASONS for this CD, isn't it? Oh. Well, can we unprotect all the PDFs but only if they click "I Agree"? Sure. If you (and they) don't mind me unzipping them all to their hard drive first. Oh. No, that won't do. What if we create some kind of file that says they clicked "I agree"? Sigh. OK, assuming they've got write privs to a C: drive, we can force that. (And at this point, I decided that it was better to clam up and not mention the question of "And what if there's a dispute? They're going to turn their computer over to you for examination?") Sheesh. Guys, you can give it away or not, but not both. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 23:05:00-GMT,4379;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28930 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:04:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25064; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:58:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:57:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24975; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:57:28 -0500 X-Sender: diana@pop.interport.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000a01bf1690$96fc92e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C46@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:56:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Diana Holm Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi (and others), Our philosophy is that security in a publishing environment has to be a trade-off between the revenue- and copyright-protecting needs of the publisher and convenience to the purchasing customer. FileOpen PDF provides the strongest encryption currently allowed by the Acrobat API, combined with additional authorization logic, as well as many features which make the electronic distribution process easier for the publisher and relatively seamless for the end-user. This solution works for the vast majority of electronic publishing situations, where the cost and inconvenience to the user of just buying the information is much less than what would be required to 'hack' the encryption. After all, publishers are in the business of disseminating information; in our experience they just want to make sure they get paid by the majority of their users. That said, there are ways that we can restrict the printing problem better than your average Xerox machine. We are currently working on a version of FileOpen PDF that places a unique serial number watermarked over the copyright statement on the printed page. This number is traceable back to the purchaser of the original copy to aid publishers in tracking down copyright violators, if they find it worth pursuing. As for printing to Envoy I believe that this is merely another case of the problem we are addressing now: printing to Envoy would mean printing to that driver, which we could identify and exclude just as we do now for Distiller. At any rate, I believe Envoy was long ago discontinued. Diana > >Even if you come up with a robust solution to prevent redistilling, >it would be useless. You only need to come up with another product >which works the same way as Acrobat - perhaps Envoy? Then you could >print to the other format, and print back to PDF. > >I can't share your outrage. If a file can be printed, or even >read on screen, it can be typed in again. Once a document is allowed >on screen, all that security can be is a minor inconvenience to someone >wanting to preserve, or reconstruct, the data. Some people become >obsessive about the details of the copy protection, and the time it might >take to crack, but if you think about it that's just nonsense. > >Aandi > >__________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ > <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> ><- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Diana Holm Director of Marketing FileOpen Systems Inc. www.fileopen.com 101 West 85th Street, Suite 1-4 New York, NY 10024 212-501-9567 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 23:28:48-GMT,2320;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29577 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:28:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27107; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:22:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:20:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26911; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:20:24 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991014231729.0076582c@popmail.dircon.co.uk> X-Sender: compstm2@popmail.dircon.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:17:29 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Keith Lawson Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-14-99 [V2 #640] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Please forgive me as I am very new to the PDF Zone and am not sure how to respond to the queries/questions raised. I feel I have something very positive to offer regarding a particular query a few days ago - opaque watermark/stamp/banners on bitmap images, but am not sure how to provide a response. Do I simply execute a reply to the complete list as downloaded to me every day? or should I be party to a mailing list? Your help/advice would be appreciated, Regards, Keith Lawson PLEASE NOTE OUR NEW HQ ADDRESS Computerstream Limited 70, Tamworth Road Ashby De La Zouch Leicestershire England LE65 2PR Tel: 01530-412790 Fax: 01530-564450 Web: www.computerstream.co.uk __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Oct-1999 23:43:26-GMT,2890;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00007 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:43:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28281; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:35:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:34:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28147; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:34:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: shell18.ba.best.com: fastio owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:33:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Ohzawa X-Sender: fastio@shell18.ba.best.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Arthur Luehrmann : >Does anyone know of any literature on the RC4 encryption of passwords >that Acrobat uses? What I'm looking for is an unbiased estimate of the >amount of computer power and time it might take to break the security. >Any pointers will be appreciated. Thanks. Not a literature, but here's something that gives you a perspective. There is an outfit which will return you an unprotected PDF from a user-password protected file for $500. It seems quite inexpensive if you desparately need a file unprotected. http://www.pwcrack.com/pdf.htm (They make you sign an agreement that declares you have a legal ownership of the file you are asking them to crack.) They say they search for the actual encryption key rather than actual user password, which basically exploits the weakness of the way RC4 is used in Acrobat, not really cracking RC4 encryption, per se. Owner password (no edit/no copy/no printing etc) offers no protection at all, because it relies on the PDF viewer to honor these settings. Almost any programmer can build a viewer that ignores these security bits from publicly available sources (Ghostscript/Xpdf). Sam FastIO Systems - ClibPDF - www.fastio.com - TIFF2PDF __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Oct-1999 10:15:56-GMT,2373;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA13401 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:15:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08627; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:49:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Oct 1999 03:58:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04871; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 03:58:48 -0500 Message-ID: <005201bf16eb$559de500$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: "pdf zone" Subject: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:57:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We are Fileopne users and I as a publisher I must agree with Diana Holm. Our users require printing and probably wouldn't buy our electronic products if this was disabled. I believe we should just make it a awkward as possible and not something an average user would do. Removing print to file and Distiller as a printer choice seems fairly obvious and I cant imagine why this wasn't done in V4. It would also be very useful if time expiry could somehow be made absolute and separate from the print issue so at least a cracked file would time out and cause the user a few heartaches. Paul Dennis Complete Picture London Publishing Solutions For Industry __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Oct-1999 10:18:40-GMT,2374;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA13430 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08625; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:49:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Oct 1999 03:58:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04873; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 03:58:48 -0500 Message-ID: <005501bf16eb$5d144b80$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: "pdf zone" Subject: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:57:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We are Fileopen users and I as a publisher I must agree with Diana Holm. Our users require printing and probably wouldn't buy our electronic products if this was disabled. I believe we should just make it a awkward as possible and not something an average user would do. Removing print to file and Distiller as a printer choice seems fairly obvious and I cant imagine why this wasn't done in V4. It would also be very useful if time expiry could somehow be made absolute and separate from the print issue so at least a cracked file would time out and cause the user a few heartaches. Paul Dennis Complete Picture London Publishing Solutions For Industry __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Oct-1999 12:02:56-GMT,3957;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA15300 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:02:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17803; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:49:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:34:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16575; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:34:36 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:33:25 +0100 Message-ID: <001001bf1701$18aa8de0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Our philosophy is that security in a publishing environment > has to be a > trade-off between the revenue- and copyright-protecting needs of the > publisher and convenience to the purchasing customer. > FileOpen PDF provides > the strongest encryption currently allowed by the Acrobat > API, combined > with additional authorization logic, as well as many features > which make > the electronic distribution process easier for the publisher > and relatively > seamless for the end-user. I think you're right. The access control is a key part - preventing access to the files until they are purchased. At this point the level of security is a potential issue. Once the access is granted, the cat is out of the bag and it's too late to close the stable door. What you have at this point is "protection through inconvenience" rather than security. It is nevertheless useful. How many people photocopy a bound book, even if they have access to "free" photocopying? It is just too inconvenient, if the book can be purchased. One problem in discussing this area is that people have many different requirements. One is intellectual property protection, and you can make it inconvenient for an average user to copy. (By the way, have you considered print-to-fax and fax-to-OCR?) At some point the inconvenience level for direct printing gets high enough that some other copying method would become more attractive. Such as printing screen dumps and gluing them together, or just typing in a copy of the information. So, Acrobat security by itself doesn't protect absolutely from copying - and nor can anything else. Even if the person is shown the material under armed guard and escorted away from the material, some people have a photographic memory... What concerns some people more is unauthorized modifications. It can be made very difficult indeed to modify a PDF, but that is a red herring too - because at some point it just becomes easier to make a copy (e.g. by typing it in) and change the copy. Acrobat *is* addressing this through the use of digital signatures. You can fake the document but not the signature (so far as I understand it). Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Oct-1999 13:26:44-GMT,2420;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16976 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:26:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24984; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:14:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:09:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24429; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:09:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991015091533.0098a360@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:15:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-14-99 [V2 #640] In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19991014231729.0076582c@popmail.dircon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Simply respond to any email you receive via this list as though it were a regular email, but bear in mind that everyone else on the list will receive your response. If that's not appropriate for the response you have in mind, respond "off-list" ... in other words, create a new email to the address of the person to whom you want to direct your response rather than hitting the Reply button. > >Do I simply execute a reply to the complete list as downloaded to me every >day? or should I be party to a mailing list? > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Oct-1999 14:04:30-GMT,3412;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17766 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:04:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28697; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:54:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:52:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28468; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:52:32 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-14-99 [V2 #640] Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:51:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bf1714$5ecad880$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991015091533.0098a360@pop.iglou.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There are two extra things to watch out for when replying to a topic in the digest. 1. Quoting. If you simply hit REPLY you will send the whole of the digest BACK. And then the next digest will have a complete copy of the previous one and so forth. This is naturally unpopular. So you need to be selective in your quotes. Delete everything but a handful of relevant lines. Beware of not quoting at all. There are many different subjects of conversation going on at the same time, and a message must be easily identified. 2. Subject. The main way a conversation is followed is through the subject, but when you reply to the digest you end up with a subject like this one - no use, in general. Take care to copy the exact subject from the message in the digest. So, you see it is possible to reply to the digest. It is harder though, and if you have to do much, it is easier to receive the non-digest form of the list. Comments on quotes still apply - it is still important to trim away any lines not essential to the context. Aandi > Simply respond to any email you receive via this list as > though it were a > regular email, but bear in mind that everyone else on the > list will receive > your response. If that's not appropriate for the response you have in > mind, respond "off-list" ... in other words, create a new email to the > address of the person to whom you want to direct your > response rather than > hitting the Reply button. > > > > >Do I simply execute a reply to the complete list as > downloaded to me every > >day? or should I be party to a mailing list? > > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Oct-1999 17:11:35-GMT,2188;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23374 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:11:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14059; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:01:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:57:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13575; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:57:16 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991015130318.0097f420@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:03:18 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-14-99 [V2 #640] In-Reply-To: <000101bf1714$5ecad880$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19991015091533.0098a360@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >There are two extra things to watch out for when replying to >a topic in the digest. > Thanks for spotting that, Aandi. I don't get the digest version and didn't pick up on the fact that he wanted to reply to the digest list. My bad. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Oct-1999 20:07:54-GMT,1634;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28435 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:07:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01627; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:54:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:52:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01400; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 14:52:23 -0500 From: TerryFCSI@aol.com Message-ID: <0.e8044d3.2538dfe5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:52:05 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Glad to hear other people share my concerns, are you happy with File Open? __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Oct-1999 21:03:28-GMT,2377;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29926 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:03:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07983; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:53:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:51:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07635; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:51:04 -0500 Message-ID: <38079363.BAEBEA32@attglobal.net> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:49:39 -0400 From: John Mathewson Organization: 21st Century Documents X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <0.e8044d3.2538dfe5@aol.com> X-Corel-MessageType: EMail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Terry, have you heard of a product called PDFLock? I am trying to find out some information on it maybe other users. TerryFCSI@aol.com wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Glad to hear other people share my concerns, are you happy with File > Open? > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ > <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> > <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> > --- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Oct-1999 23:50:23-GMT,2098;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04212 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:50:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21979; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:41:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:39:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21748; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:39:04 -0500 From: Cybergrphx@aol.com Message-ID: <0.91a06554.25391505@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:38:45 EDT Subject: [PDF] Opening external file from PDF doesn't work on Mac (OK on PC) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We're having problems using the "open" feature within a PDF to run a short demo created in Director. We are using Acrobat 4.0. I recall this working in version 3.0. We have a link in the PDF file to "open" a Director 7.0 projector that describes how the PDF library is organized and shows how to navigate through the documents. On the PC, the file launches. On the Mac, the button just "pushes" in. We tried it with other application files and none of them work on the Mac. Any suggestions? Thanks Rob Robertson __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Oct-1999 18:24:56-GMT,2614;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25842 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:24:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03271; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 13:13:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 16 Oct 1999 13:07:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02662; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 13:07:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991016141313.00987440@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 14:13:13 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening external file from PDF doesn't work on Mac (OK on PC) In-Reply-To: <0.91a06554.25391505@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >On the PC, the file launches. On the Mac, the button just "pushes" in. We >tried it with other application files and none of them work on the Mac. > Have you tried creating a simple PDF on the Mac so you can figure out what it takes to launch a file? I wouldn't expect it to work identically on both platforms. On the PC, Windows knows what app to launch when you doubleclick or launch a data file by looking for the association between the file's .XXX extension and some app. IOW, if you launch a .TXT file, most likely you'll see it in Notepad. A .DOC file will launch in Word unless some other app "owns" the .DOC extension. The Mac's blissfully unaware of any meanings Windows users assign to file extensions. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 7:33:18-GMT,2940;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08556 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 01:33:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09066; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:20:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:12:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08401; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:12:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Peter Williams To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:14:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It is relatively simple, a day's work for a competent programmer, to take the Windows NT Port Monitor sample code and write a perfectly legal printer port that saves the data sent to it to a file. Writing port capture programs for other operating systems which don't come with complete sample code for one takes longer but is not hard. Once you have data intended for transmission to the printer has been saved it is simple send it to the printer as many times as you like. If the data is PostScript then it can be sent to any PostScript printer What I want to know is: Who cares? It is possible to photocopy documents after they have been printed anyway? What is so different about copying the printer data? Or the PDF for that matter? Peter > -----Original Message----- > From: Diana Holm [mailto:diana@fileopen.com] > Sent: Thursday, 14 October 1999 3:07 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption > > > > Your second point about intercepting the print stream itself > is valid. As > far as we know, this can be done. In most cases (all cases where a > non-PostScript printer is being used), however, the results > of such an > effort would be a bitmap and hence little better than a > PrintScreen image > of the page or a capture from the printed document. > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 9:17:11-GMT,2193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10458 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 03:17:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA16940; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:04:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:02:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA16790; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:02:38 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening external file from PDF doesn't work on Mac (OK on PC) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Oct 1999 14:13:13 EDT." <3.0.5.32.19991016141313.00987440@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:02:28 +0100 Message-ID: <11070.940237348@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 14:13:13 EDT, Steve Rindsberg wrote: > The Mac's blissfully unaware of any meanings Windows users assign to file > extensions. You can though configure Macs with mappings from DOS file extensions to Mac applications. So then if you double-click a file ending in .pdf it opens it up in Acrobat (say.) This is done through a Control Panel whose name varies somewhat between different MacOS releases. I think it is called "File Exchange" in MacOS 8.6. Chris __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 10:04:07-GMT,3573;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11323 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:04:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA20369; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:54:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:53:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20270; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:53:40 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991018094703.009134bc@postipalvelin.mastek.fi> X-Sender: mehrdad.pishehgar@postipalvelin.mastek.fi X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:47:03 +0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mehrdad Pishehgar Subject: [PDF] How can I reduce the size of large files? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everybody! This is the first time I,m sending in a problem and I hope I'm doing this right. I am a FEA (Finite Element Analysis) engineer. The FEA models I work on have sometimes up to 100000 elements in them. For those of you who are not familiar with the world of FEA, in FEA models the structure (body of a car, an aeroplane, towers etc) are broken down into small pieces called elements and then the model is reconstructed by "gluing" these elements back together again. When the model is ready all the boundry conditions are added to the model and for example you can analayze how the body of the car behaves in a crash. Bear with me and I will get to the problem soon. In writing the reports of these calculations we give our customers in PDF format some colour pictures which show for example where the highest stress can be found and so on. As I mentioned before the models have a lot of elements in them and when I print the picture to the PDF writer it actually draws each element, even those which will be covered by the next layer of elements. As a result the size of these pictures are between 5 and 10 MB. In a report there are about 30 pictures of this kind and you can guess the size of a typical report. I'm interested in the finished picture, that is to say I am not interested in the elements which will be covered by the other elemnents. Is there a way I can reduce the size of the pictures by capturing only the end result, or final picture, without the quality of the picture suffering. I have tried some programmes which capture the screen (PDF Image plug-in was one of them) but the quality of the picture becomes so poor that it is not usable. I know this was a long story but I felt I had to give some background information in order to give everyone a "clear picture" of my problem. We are using version 4.0 of Acrobat on PC. Any suggestions are more than welcome. Mehrdad __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 10:38:55-GMT,3081;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11911 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:38:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22881; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:29:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:27:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22699; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:27:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] How can I reduce the size of large files? Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:25:44 +0100 Message-ID: <001501bf1953$23d4ecc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19991018094703.009134bc@postipalvelin.mastek.fi> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > As I mentioned before the models have a lot of > elements in them and when I print the picture to the PDF > writer it actually > draws each element, even those which will be covered by the > next layer of > elements. As a result the size of these pictures are between > 5 and 10 MB. In > a report there are about 30 pictures of this kind and you can > guess the size > of a typical report. Acrobat simply records the drawing instructions you give it. It would actually take much longer if Acrobat only drew the elements which were uncovered, because it would require a complex analysis for each line to see if it were visible. Far faster to draw it anyway. I can think of only two solutions. 1. Apply a hidden element removal to your data. This would have to be a graphical analysis performed before creating the PDF. The algorithms exist to do this, but I've no idea if there are usable tools for your context. It would not be an Acrobat tool. 2. Rasterise the PDF file to a bitmap. This is often a good idea for very complex vectors. But good resolution may be needed. You could try opening in Photoshop, or zooming in AFTER selecting an area of the page and BEFORE copying, since the copied data depends on the zoom at the time of copying. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 10:43:32-GMT,3858;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12013 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23497; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:36:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:34:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23404; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:34:52 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19991018094703.009134bc@postipalvelin.mastek.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:25:52 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] How can I reduce the size of large files? Cc: Mehrdad Pishehgar Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Mehrdad, Can you somehow create an EPS file from your data? If so, you might consider using Photoshop as an intermediate. Photoshop is quite a good rasterizer, and gives you a lot of control over the images. You can then either export as PDF, or place an EPS or another suitable graphic in the document you write your report in (I hope it is something industrial strength...). Then you create your PDF version of the report the usual way (create a PostScript file, process it with Distiller). The next thing would be looking at the appropriate settings for your graphics, and for your document processing. For these, the information should be floating around on the net. In doubt, you might check Stephan Jaeggi's brochures, downloadable from http://www.prepress.ch . There might be some other alternatives, which are actually removing hidden paths from your vector graphic. I am not aware of any specific product, but you might look around at some 3D graphic programs. From there, you could create a vector based graphic, whose quality would be better when scaled. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >In writing the reports of these calculations we give our customers in PDF >format some colour pictures which show for example where the highest stress >can be found and so on. As I mentioned before the models have a lot of >elements in them and when I print the picture to the PDF writer it actually >draws each element, even those which will be covered by the next layer of >elements. As a result the size of these pictures are between 5 and 10 MB. In >a report there are about 30 pictures of this kind and you can guess the size >of a typical report. > >I'm interested in the finished picture, that is to say I am not interested >in the elements which will be covered by the other elemnents. Is there a way >I can reduce the size of the pictures by capturing only the end result, or >final picture, without the quality of the picture suffering. > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 10:58:45-GMT,4019;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12249 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:58:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA24529; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:50:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:49:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24445; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:49:49 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 06:49:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] How can I reduce the size of large files? From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991018104802.SPNR8488.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Mehrdad, Sounds like fun, some people get the really cool jobs. As for your perdicament, in Acrobat Zoom in to at least 400%, and use the graphic selection tool. Starting at the upperleft, click and drag to the bottomright. Copy. Open Photoshop and select New, accept the size and Paste, Flatten, Alter Image Size to be 288dpi for (400%) or more depending on the magnification you used. Print this as PS then convert to PDF, and open. Copy this with the TouchUp Object tool, move to your other file delete the original large image, and paste the new one, and position. It sounds like a lot of work, however it can be accomplished quickly, and even automated, depending on your skill level. Other ways of doing this exist, but this is generally what works best for most people. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > In writing the reports of these calculations we give our customers in PDF > format some colour pictures which show for example where the highest stress > can be found and so on. As I mentioned before the models have a lot of > elements in them and when I print the picture to the PDF writer it actually > draws each element, even those which will be covered by the next layer of > elements. As a result the size of these pictures are between 5 and 10 MB. In > a report there are about 30 pictures of this kind and you can guess the size > of a typical report. > > I'm interested in the finished picture, that is to say I am not interested > in the elements which will be covered by the other elemnents. Is there a way > I can reduce the size of the pictures by capturing only the end result, or > final picture, without the quality of the picture suffering. > > I have tried some programmes which capture the screen (PDF Image plug-in was > one of them) but the quality of the picture becomes so poor that it is not > usable. > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 13:14:56-GMT,5602;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14916 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:14:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01928; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:00:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:58:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01717; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:58:40 -0500 Message-ID: <01BF1946.E0854A20@fpemjfabia.ere.exxon.com> From: Mike Fabian To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] ..... Word97 Custom Properties Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:57:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BF1946.E08CEB40" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BF1946.E08CEB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone found a way (or any add-in) to get Word97 custom properties over to a pdf. I am using PDFmaker and I can get the usual properties (Title, Subject ....) but I would like to get some custom properties over. Michael J. 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Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:11:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08013; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:01:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:59:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07709; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:59:13 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991018100522.00915a80@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:05:22 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening external file from PDF doesn't work on Mac (OK on PC) In-Reply-To: <11070.940237348@MessagingDirect.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >You can though configure Macs with mappings from DOS file extensions to >Mac applications. Yes, but if you're distributing a CD to a lot of users, probably X-platform, you can't expect them all to know how to do this (or even to realize that they should ... or even to read your carefully written instructions explaining why they might want to!) I suspect the only reliable way 'round the problem is a hybrid CD. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 14:11:21-GMT,2677;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16239 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:11:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07583; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:58:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:56:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07449; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:56:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991018100236.00914100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:02:36 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >What I want to know is: Who cares? > >It is possible to photocopy documents after they have been printed anyway? >What is so different about copying the printer data? Or the PDF for that >matter? > I think it needs to be put in context; you have a situation where you've restricted the ability to open the PDF in the first place to a user who's presumably paid a fee for the privilege. As I understand it, Diana's company makes software for this. While you can give a copy of a PDF protected with their software to somebody else, they can't open it. By re-frying it, you end up with an unprotected PDF which you could email to dozens/hundreds/thousands of recipients (which you most probably wouldn't do if you were footing the time and expense of photocopying and mailing). Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 14:15:17-GMT,3100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16314 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:15:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08471; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:05:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:04:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08378; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:04:10 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991018101018.00916450@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:10:18 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] How can I reduce the size of large files? In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19991018094703.009134bc@postipalvelin.mastek.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I'm interested in the finished picture, that is to say I am not interested >in the elements which will be covered by the other elemnents. Is there a way >I can reduce the size of the pictures by capturing only the end result, or >final picture, without the quality of the picture suffering. > >I have tried some programmes which capture the screen (PDF Image plug-in was >one of them) but the quality of the picture becomes so poor that it is not >usable. > If screen captures, even after increasing your system rez to the highest it supports, aren't sufficient, consider using some other tool to convert your images to bitmaps (effectively flattening them). You may be able to open either the PDF or the PS source in PhotoShop, for example, then reduce to a suitable resolution/color depth, then save back out as a TIFF, then bring that directly into your PDF, or incorporate it in a source document from which you make PDF. The latter would, I think, be preferable (more control over layout, compression options, the ability to paginate, include annotations and so forth). I believe GhostScript/Ghostview could RIP your PS to bitmap images as well. Don't use it myself, so can't say for sure. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 14:18:10-GMT,2264;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16394 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:18:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09044; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:09:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:08:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08832; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:07:59 -0500 From: "Julie Colella" To: Subject: [PDF] Saving PDF file back to a tif image... Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:06:35 -0400 Message-ID: <000301bf1971$fdb9e300$0500a8c0@tekeast> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am attempting to save the first page of a pdf file as a thumbnail size .bmp image for display on a results list screen. Does anyone know of a way to code, using the Acrobat SDK, the saving of a PDF page to the .Tif or .BMP format? Please respond... Julie W. Colella Systems Consultant Tekworks, Inc. 2722 Merrilee Drive Suite 200 Fairfax, VA 22031 Voice: (703)208-1899 Fax: (703)208-1898 email: jcolella@tekworksinc.com Visit our Web Site at: http://www.tekworksinc.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 14:24:53-GMT,2306;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16601 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:24:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09815; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:16:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:15:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09670; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:15:21 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991018095428.014e3320@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:14:22 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Opening external file from PDF doesn't work on Mac (OK on PC) In-Reply-To: <199910180712.CAA08447@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The Mac vs. Win issue is a red herring. You have two machines with different preferences set. Check your preferences. File->Preferences->General. If "Allow File Open Links" is not checked, a file open link will just wink at you, Mac or Win. Personally, I hate "secret" features. I think that Acrobat should display a warning message and even tell you where to change the setting. But of course, as long as Adobe has people like the list members handling technical support for them, I don't think such a change will be high priority. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 16:15:21-GMT,2064;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19829 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:15:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20546; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:05:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:03:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19190; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:51:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Donna Russell To: "'PDF Mail List'" Subject: [PDF] Using PDF File for online help in application software Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:51:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Has anyone had experience with using a PDF file for online help within an application software? I'm trying to find out how that's done. I'd like to include a PDF version of a guide with my company's application software; when the user clicks help, the PDF version pops up. I'd like to be able to do what the Adobe Acrobat software does - click Help and select Acrobat Guide and up pops the PDF version. Any help is appreciated, Donna __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 18:05:47-GMT,1855;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23020 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02417; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:54:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:51:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21775; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:20:45 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening external file from PDF doesn't work on Mac (OK on PC) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:05:22 EDT." <3.0.5.32.19991018100522.00915a80@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:20:01 +0100 Message-ID: <11715.940263601@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:05:22 EDT, Steve Rindsberg wrote: > I suspect the only reliable way 'round the problem is a hybrid CD. Agreed. Chris __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 18:09:17-GMT,2163;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23121 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:09:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02721; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:55:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:53:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18609; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:45:17 -0500 Message-ID: <380B4077.D140F620@scanamerica.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:44:55 -0500 From: Eric Stephenson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption References: <199910180712.CAA08447@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Poor security for pdf goes beyond printing too. On a few ocasions I've reconstructed print locked pdf documents from screen shots. It's ugly but it can work. Also- has anybody found the answers to the original topic questions of how strong / weak RC4 is ( other than read the crypto faqs ) ? Thanks, Eric >What I want to know is: Who cares? >It is possible to photocopy documents after they have been printed anyway? >What is so different about copying the printer data? Or the PDF for that >matter? >Peter __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 18:11:10-GMT,2534;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23198 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:11:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03954; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:01:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:00:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03523; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:00:27 -0500 Message-ID: <001e01bf1992$239d8a70$eabf5f18@twcny.rr.com> From: "Jay McInvale" To: References: Subject: [PDF] Can Script Determine if Acrobat Reader is a Plug-in to MSIE Client? Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:56:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am sending FDF files (with /F pointing to a PDF) from Active Server Pages to client browsers. I need to know in advance whether the client's browser already has Acrobat Reader installed as a plug-in. The following code does not work in Internet Explorer. function detectAcrobat() { /*================================*/ /* this works only for netscape navigator */ /*================================*/ if (navigator.mimeTypes && navigator.mimeTypes["application/pdf"] && navigator.mimeTypes["application/pdf"].enabledPlugin) return true; else return false; } Does anyone have a Javascript or VBScript method of determining if Acrobat Reader is installed on a client machine? Any other suggestions? __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 18:11:48-GMT,2015;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23215 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:11:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03828; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:01:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:59:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03390; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:59:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Enabling an Access form using PDF. Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:13:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is anyone familiar with the requirements for image enabling an MS Access form so that the controls are embedded for PDF? We want to have a database with document information (i.e. Date, Author) and be able to launch (within the form --- not separately) the corresponding PDF document when selected. We are currently doing this with the Wang and Kodak viewers for Tiff images and would like to use the additional features of PDF. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 18:14:38-GMT,2305;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23305 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:14:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05199; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:07:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:06:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05009; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:06:32 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF file back to a tif image... Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:05:07 +0100 Message-ID: <002801bf1993$4fe72ae0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000301bf1971$fdb9e300$0500a8c0@tekeast> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am attempting to save the first page of a pdf file as a > thumbnail size > .bmp image for display on a results list screen. Does anyone > know of a way > to code, using the Acrobat SDK, the saving of a PDF page to > the .Tif or .BMP > format? Please respond... You may be able to render a PDF file to an off-screen display context, but this is fairly advanced. The placed PDF library can do this - but requires a substantial license fee and months to license. Why not just use Photoshop? Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 18:28:39-GMT,3119;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23846 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:28:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06591; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:18:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:17:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06440; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:17:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <380B4077.D140F620@scanamerica.com> References: <199910180712.CAA08447@everglades.binc.net> <380B4077.D140F620@scanamerica.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:16:45 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA06425 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:44 AM -0500 10/18/99, Eric Stephenson wrote: >Also- has anybody found the answers to the original topic questions >of how strong / >weak >RC4 is ( other than read the crypto faqs ) ? > The basic answer is that RC4 at 40 bits (what Acrobat's standard security handler uses) is pretty weak. I don't have the specifics, but it doesn't take all that much computing power to break it. There has been talk, now that the US Gov't has approved it, of Adobe moving to 56 bits which makes it definitely harder (months vs. days/weeks) to break. If you've got issues with the level of security, you've got two options (not necessary exclusive)... 1) Lobby your favorite US Gov't official to get the laws changed! 2) Purchase a product like PageVault from Authentica that implements strong security. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 18:34:54-GMT,2594;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24145 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:34:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07837; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:27:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:25:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07595; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:25:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002801bf1993$4fe72ae0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <002801bf1993$4fe72ae0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:28:07 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF file back to a tif image... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA07591 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 7:05 PM +0100 10/18/99, Aandi Inston wrote: >Why not just use Photoshop? > Either that or ImageReady (now part of Photoshop). One advantage of ImageReady is that it supports a bit more automation, so that it can be driven pretty well with a combination of JavaScript and VB/AppleScript/etc. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 18:41:11-GMT,2095;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24342 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:41:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08944; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:34:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:33:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08750; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:33:21 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:31:57 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01bf1997$12247b00$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <380B4077.D140F620@scanamerica.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Also- has anybody found the answers to the original topic > questions of how strong / > weak > RC4 is ( other than read the crypto faqs ) ? And the problem with that is...? I mean, it is a complex issue, what do you want someone to add here that could be more valuable than the cryptogrphic FAQs? Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 18:54:43-GMT,3072;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24723 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10413; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:48:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:46:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10189; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:46:45 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:45:25 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01bf1998$f153fd40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The basic answer is that RC4 at 40 bits (what Acrobat's > standard security handler uses) is pretty weak. I don't have the > specifics, but it doesn't take all that much computing power to break > it. There has been talk, now that the US Gov't has approved it, of > Adobe moving to 56 bits which makes it definitely harder (months vs. > days/weeks) to break. In the real world, the actual number of bits is probably not especially important. There are two cases. One, where there is no open password. In this case, a person with good enough cryptographic skills to crack a file could instead use their time to write a clone of that part of Acrobat Reader (since they don't need a password, just the PDF specs). How to avoid? Use a non-Adobe - and more important, secret and proprietary - compression. Two, where there IS an open password, brute force cracking is rarely necessary. How many of you choose long strings of random letters and numbers for passwords of your files? And how many of your users do? And how many choose different strings for each file? The fact is that most passwords are common English names or words and can be cracked in a few minutes by a simple program which works through a dictionary, with no knowledge of cryptography at all. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 18:56:25-GMT,2354;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24768 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:56:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10560; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:49:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:48:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10411; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:48:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: Peter Williams To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:50:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try http://nightflight.com/cgi-bin/foldoc.cgi?RC4 which says The United States government routinely approves RC4 with 40-bit keys for export. Keys this small can be easily broken by governments, criminals, and amateurs. The exportable version of Netscape's Secure Socket Layer, which uses RC4-40, was broken by at least two independent groups. Breaking it took about eight days; in many universities or companies the same computing power is available to any computer science student. Peter > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Stephenson [mailto:admin@scanamerica.com] > Also- has anybody found the answers to the original topic > questions of how strong / > weak > RC4 is ( other than read the crypto faqs ) ? > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 19:10:07-GMT,2982;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25169 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:10:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11936; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:01:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:58:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11628; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:58:50 -0500 From: "Jeff Maxwell" To: Subject: [PDF] Secure Document Delivery Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:59:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello: I recently purchased Acrobat 4.0 for the additional security features bundled within the product. Unfortunately, Adobe's pre-sales tech support seems to be very poor -- they swore that the ability to limit the number of times a document can be printed was included in the built in security feature. Unfortunately, it is not. What I need to do, seems to be a fairly common need -- distribute a PDF document that somehow limits it from being passed around and shared with everyone on the Net. Even if it has a password, that password can just be passed with the document. So, I would like some sort of time expiration -- the user downloads the file and it will open and can be printed for five days then expire -- or something similar. I did come across a company called SoftLock that can apparently authenticate a PDF document to a unique code key on your hard drive, but they appear to no longer offer this product -- instead opting for a service model of distributing your material for a monthly fee. Does anyone have any suggestions on a plug-in that would add this type of security -- the development environment for the secure delivery section of the site will be ASP. Thanks for any help you can provide! -Jeff __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 19:20:31-GMT,2646;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25499 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:20:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13530; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:13:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:12:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13385; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:12:34 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Secure Document Delivery Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:11:13 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01bf199c$8c69cdc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I recently purchased Acrobat 4.0 for the additional security features > bundled within the product. Unfortunately, Adobe's pre-sales > tech support > seems to be very poor -- they swore that the ability to limit > the number of > times a document can be printed was included in the built in security > feature. Unfortunately, it is not. What I need to do, seems > to be a fairly > common need -- distribute a PDF document that somehow limits > it from being > passed around and shared with everyone on the Net. Even if it has a > password, that password can just be passed with the document. > So, I would > like some sort of time expiration -- the user downloads the > file and it will > open and can be printed for five days then expire -- or > something similar. Consider FileOpen (www.fileopen.com) Signet (www.ambia.com) Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 19:20:43-GMT,2992;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25510 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:20:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12988; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:10:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:08:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12831; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:08:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991018104802.SPNR8488.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:16:32 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: [PDF] master page elements in PDFs from booked documents Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We use Distiller 3.0 and 4.0 to make PDFs from sets of PageMaker 6.5 documents arranged to become a single paginated book. We are using Mac G3 computers. When we print to postscript, we print the multiple files that make up the entire book to become one postscript file. Then the file is distilled to make a single PDF. The books all have master page elements such as running heads and feet. In the resulting PDFs, the text spacing of the master page elements is sometimes distorted, such as overly compressed or extended. If we make PDFs of the individual PageMaker documents, these problems always go away. We then assemble to book in Acrobat. This works, but takes extra time. Does anyone have experience with this problem and ideas for how to stop it? Susan ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education 4200 East University blvd. Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH 45042 http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ To send me a voice message, go to http://pagoo.com/me.asp?5134236948 ____________________________________________________________________________ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 21:43:30-GMT,2443;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29465 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27592; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:33:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:31:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27315; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:31:12 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1FDE@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Find missing characters in PDF files Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:26:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I was just wondering, I have a staff of four people pouring over some one-page PDF files, looking for missing characters (a result of moving Word files across the great platform divide). These characters show up as thin squares. It's pretty tedious work. The thought occurred to me that possibly someone might have a piece of software, or some tip/technique to make identifying such missing characters in a PDF file a tad bit easier? Would a pre-flight software do this? I know it's a long shot, but I thought I'd try anyway. I feel sorry for these poor, soon-to-be-cross-eyed folks. TIA ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 23:13:37-GMT,2477;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02142 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:13:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02503; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:02:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:57:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02073; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:57:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199910182257.RAA02067@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Simpler Form submission wanted Date: Tue, 19 Oct 99 12:06:58 +1300 x-sender: craigl@mail.siren.co.nz x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Craig Lauridsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anybody know of a solution to get form data submitted as an email. The PDF file contains a number of form fields which are to be completed and the data submitted back in a simple one-click operation. The standard Submit option in Acrobat requires that the user has live contact to a web site. The Export Form Data option produces a file on the local computer which prompts for a save name and location (also requires and users to have the full version, not Reader). The emailing of this FDF file, as an attachment, is then a separate action. I am looking for a solution which offers remote users the simplicity of the one-click Submit option from a PDF (front end), to a non-CGI database (back end) as either raw database-ready text data, or in FDF format for direct inclusion into a PDF. Thanks for any suggestions. Craig Lauridsen Acumen Technical Design and Training __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Oct-1999 23:15:34-GMT,2305;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02230 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:15:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02941; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:07:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:06:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02826; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:06:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199910182306.SAA02820@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Word - irregular textline alignment Date: Tue, 19 Oct 99 12:16:25 +1300 x-sender: craigl@mail.siren.co.nz x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Craig Lauridsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a client who uses Windows 98 and Acrobat 4 to produce PDFs from Word using Distiller, due to the inclusion of grahics. The TOC pages in the PDF file show minor irregularities (around .25 - .5 of a mm, just enough to look visually wrong) in the alignment of right-hand tab aligned, page numbers. In Word, the TOC is automatically generated, and uses a consistent style to determine margin settings. I have been unable to repeat the problem by recreating the PDF on a Mac. I am sure the problem will be Windows system related issue such as a printer driver, or font version. Has anybody else noted similar problems and been able to fix them? Craig Lauridsen Acumen Technical Design and Training __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 2:26:53-GMT,2127;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA06458 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:26:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18446; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:17:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:13:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17951; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:13:06 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389535732@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF file back to a tif image... Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:11:46 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There is a product called FreeBird (I think) that will export in batch all the images in a PDF back to individual graphics. check out PDFStore http://www.pdfstore.com. Otherwise ImageReady is a good solution, especially since it can be automated. Dave........ ----------- > Either that or ImageReady (now part of Photoshop). One > advantage of ImageReady is that it supports a bit more automation, so > that it can be driven pretty well with a combination of JavaScript > and VB/AppleScript/etc. > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 3:50:13-GMT,3220;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08338 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:50:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25083; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:39:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:34:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24708; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:34:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3804E643.9E80F6FB@compLitpress.com> References: <19991009192632.NKW19487@[12.77.152.197]> <3.0.5.32.19991011095638.0096f4c0@pop.iglou.com> <3804E643.9E80F6FB@compLitpress.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:33:52 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Does anyone know of any literature on the RC4 encryption of passwords >that Acrobat uses? What I'm looking for is an unbiased estimate of the >amount of computer power and time it might take to break the security. >Any pointers will be appreciated. Thanks. Whew! If rate of volley indicates interest in a topic, this one has it. To get back to the original question, I'd like to recommend a great book I just read on cryptography called "The Code Book'" by Simon Singh (Doubleday, 1999). Nice recitation of the history of secret writing from simple ciphers to Linear B, Enigma and public key cryptography. This question ultimately boils down to, what is it you are trying to do. If a form of encryption is inappropriate to the goal at hand, it begs for new answers. RSA (large primes combined with modular arithmetic) provides a terribly effective means of hiding content from casual observation, but it was useless until fast microprocessors became commonplace and email and web commerce created a demand for highly efficient distribution of keys. More effective solutions to the problem of publishing (publishers don't have a lot of government agencies financing their R&D!) may depend on the continuing efforts of companies like FileOpen or Authentica. Or Adobe. ;-) Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 6:39:39-GMT,3657;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12055 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:39:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA03982; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:27:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:23:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA03731; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:23:18 -0500 Message-ID: <005301bf1a03$382c13a0$c2d1523e@none.servicom.es> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Using PDF File for online help in application software Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:26:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Donna: I have done what you're asking for. It was allright. At least at the trials and testing. It was an ACCESS 97 database which had a Help button that opened the "help.pdf" file. Depending on where you are in the software, you can open one page or another, showing the apropiate topic. This way you can enjoy all the functionality of Acrobat in your help, adding video..sound..etc. Regards. Carlos. ************************************************************************************************ La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos González Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel.: 915 344 348 Fax.: 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************************************************ -----Mensaje original----- De: Donna Russell Para: 'PDF Mail List' Fecha: lunes 18 de octubre de 1999 17:32 Asunto: [PDF] Using PDF File for online help in application software > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Has anyone had experience with using a PDF file for online help within an >application software? I'm trying to find out how that's done. I'd like to >include a PDF version of a guide with my company's application software; >when the user clicks help, the PDF version pops up. > >I'd like to be able to do what the Adobe Acrobat software does - click Help >and select Acrobat Guide and up pops the PDF version. > >Any help is appreciated, >Donna > >__________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ > <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> > <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 6:51:52-GMT,4373;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12265 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:51:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04911; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:38:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:36:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04748; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:36:42 -0500 Message-ID: <006301bf1a05$1d7308a0$c2d1523e@none.servicom.es> From: "=?utf-7?Q?Carlos_Gonz+AOE-lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Enabling an Access form using PDF. Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:39:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Darin: To do it, we used the OpenInWindowEx method. You will find all the info related to this (IAC) in a doc called VWIACREF which contains all the specs to be used in Automation. I don't know where is actually that doc since the Adobe web has changed, and I haven't deeply visited it. Besides, the doc version I have is for Acrobat 3.0 There might be a later doc. prepared for Acrobat 4.0 If my doc can be useful to you, contact me privately and I'll send it to you (1,2 Mb) (IAC) stands for Inter Aplication Communication Regards, Carlos Gonzalez. +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAq- La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos Gonz+AOE-lez Director General Crist+APM-bal Bordi+APo-, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel.: 915 344 348 Fax.: 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel+AEA-mad.servicom.es +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAq- -----Mensaje original----- De: Darin Brackett +ADw-DARIN+AEA-Net1.com+AD4- Para: 'pdf+AEA-lists.pdfzone.com' +ADw-pdf+AEA-lists.pdfzone.com+AD4- Fecha: lunes 18 de octubre de 1999 19:29 Asunto: +AFs-PDF+AF0- Enabling an Access form using PDF. +AD4- +AD4-The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com +AHw- http://www.pdfzone.com/ +AD4AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8- +AD4- +AD4-Is anyone familiar with the requirements for image enabling an MS Access +AD4-form so that the controls are embedded for PDF? We want to have a database +AD4-with document information (i.e. Date, Author) and be able to launch (within +AD4-the form --- not separately) the corresponding PDF document when selected. +AD4-We are currently doing this with the Wang and Kodak viewers for Tiff images +AD4-and would like to use the additional features of PDF. +AD4- +AD4AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXw- +ACo- NOW SHOWING +AEA- http://www.PDFzone.com/ +ACo- +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8- +AD4- +ADw-- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -+AD4- +AD4- +ADw-- DETAILS +AEA- http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -+AD4- +AD4--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +AD4- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 7:20:32-GMT,3421;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12652 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:11:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA06722; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:01:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:59:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06611; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:59:57 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199910182257.RAA02067@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:36:10 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Simpler Form submission wanted Cc: Craig Lauridsen Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Craig, that's something you are not alone wanting. It seems that some decisions were taken some time ago which were blinded by the easy availability of a fast, continuous and cheap internet connection they had at their workplace. Anyway, you do have a few options. One is to use the Sendmail plug-in in Acrobat 4 which actually can create an e-mail message containing either the full document, or the FDF data. You can control this with the appropriate JavaScript. This plug-in however requires the full version of Acrobat 4. Another possibility is a custom-developed plug-in which creates the interface between your form and the database. They say that such a plug-in also requires the full version. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Does anybody know of a solution to get form data submitted as an email. >The PDF file contains a number of form fields which are to be completed >and the data submitted back in a simple one-click operation. > >The standard Submit option in Acrobat requires that the user has live >contact to a web site. The Export Form Data option produces a file on the >local computer which prompts for a save name and location (also requires >and users to have the full version, not Reader). The emailing of this FDF >file, as an attachment, is then a separate action. > >I am looking for a solution which offers remote users the simplicity of >the one-click Submit option from a PDF (front end), to a non-CGI database >(back end) as either raw database-ready text data, or in FDF format for >direct inclusion into a PDF. > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 9:08:09-GMT,1831;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14801 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13885; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:45:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:38:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13354; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:38:57 -0500 Message-ID: <95D655C3D17AD31192560090274D930E089573@JPTKYMSX5MEDGE> From: "HIWATASHI, HELIO (MED,ID TKY JP )" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Message error on opening a pdf Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:44:12 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello all, Has anyone faced with a message like this? I can't realize the meaning of this. > "THIS FILE CONTAINS INFORMATION NOT UNDERSTOOD > BY THE VIEWER. SUPPRESS FURTHER ERRORS YES? NO?" Thanks Helio __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 9:16:17-GMT,2274;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14974 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15172; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:02:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:01:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15013; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:01:25 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Message error on opening a pdf Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:00:12 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01bf1a10$5b1895c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <95D655C3D17AD31192560090274D930E089573@JPTKYMSX5MEDGE> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Has anyone faced with a message like this? I can't realize > the meaning of > this. > > "THIS FILE CONTAINS INFORMATION NOT UNDERSTOOD > > BY THE VIEWER. SUPPRESS FURTHER ERRORS YES? NO?" Three possible causes. 1. The file needs a newer version of Acrobat than you are using. The current version is 4.0. 2. The file was damaged somehow after it was created (e.g. by FTP with the wrong options) 3. The file was created by faulty software (least likely). Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 10:37:03-GMT,2012;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16541 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:37:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20544; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 05:26:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 05:22:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20273; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 05:22:45 -0500 Message-ID: <008901bf1a1b$ca2f4d40$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: "pdf zone" Subject: [PDF] Page Size Problems Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:22:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you are running NT the Word Page size problem is to do with adobe PS printer driver there is a note about this in the readme that comes with the driver installer. Dont know if it has been fixed yet we stopped using NT to create Ps files. Paul Dennis Complete Picture London Publishing Solutions For Industry __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 12:36:18-GMT,2650;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18779 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:36:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30623; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:29:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:27:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30469; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:27:24 -0500 From: mpaz@intrieve.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 8:25:43 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Rotated PDF Pages MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/222041504/222002932/222090653/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 132e" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA30461 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I searched for this in the archives and posted it on another list but couldn't find the answer. I've created a simple one page FM file that is to serve as a menu in PDF format. There is some text on the page and in a text box, but the page is pretty empty as it will ultimately hold buttons and graphic links created in Acrobat. After I distill this simple file, the page is rotated from portrait to landscape. Yes, I know I can rotate it back in Acrobat, but I swear I read (somewhere) about a setting that would tell the system NOT to rotate the page. I can't remember if it was in Distiller or in Frame. I'm using Acrobat 4.0 (compatible with 3.0) and FrameMaker 5.5.3 on a Novel LAN, Windows 95. Thanks in advance. Lani Paz ********************************** Intrieve Incorporated 312 Plum St. PO Box 5412 Cincinnati, OH 45201-5412 Voice.......(513) 381-9400 Fax.........(513) 381-9509 www.intrieve.com ********************************** __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 13:44:43-GMT,3016;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20256 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:44:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03997; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:34:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:32:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03845; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:32:48 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C4A@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:32:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I think you may have hit on a major point. Keys are made to be broken. My father once told me that "locks are for honest people...if someone wants in bad enough, they can get in." Of course, those people are criminals. Find them and prosecute them. A lot depends on what is being secured here. For example, I don't know if securing a PDF file for the purposes of copyright is comparable to securing a document that contains highly sensitive, confidential or proprietary information. In our business, we have documents containing "safeguards information" (ref. 10 CFR 73.21). We have yet to find a suitable electronic solution. For now, we retain and distribute these documents in hard copy and film medium only, and store them inside GSA-approved file cabinets with combination locks, inside a locked records vault. My point is, before we ask Adobe to build Acrobat with "vault-like" security, we should ask ourselves if most of us have the need for such, and if we do, is Acrobat a proper distribution medium? Gary Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station "A company with energy" Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com > ---------- > From: Peter Williams[SMTP:Peter.Williams@efi.com] > Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 1:50 PM > Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption > ...Keys this small can be easily broken by governments, criminals, and > amateurs. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 14:33:22-GMT,3115;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21378 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:33:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08669; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:24:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:22:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08478; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:22:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001d01bf1a10$5b1895c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <001d01bf1a10$5b1895c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:44:06 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] Message error on opening a pdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA08472 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:00 AM +0100 10/19/99, Aandi Inston wrote: >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > > > > Has anyone faced with a message like this? I can't realize > > the meaning of > > this. > > > "THIS FILE CONTAINS INFORMATION NOT UNDERSTOOD > > > BY THE VIEWER. SUPPRESS FURTHER ERRORS YES? NO?" > >Three possible causes. > >1. The file needs a newer version of Acrobat than you are using. >The current version is 4.0. > >2. The file was damaged somehow after it was created (e.g. by >FTP with the wrong options) > >3. The file was created by faulty software (least likely). > Wouldn't that message also show up if the document was encrypted with a custom security handler that didn't exist on the destination machine? Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 14:38:25-GMT,2554;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21503 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:38:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09367; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:31:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:30:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09176; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:30:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:30:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotated PDF Pages From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991019142831.USEO8488.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Settings in Distiller, for page size, try altering the numbers to alter the orientation. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > After I distill this simple file, the page is rotated from portrait to > landscape. Yes, I know I can rotate it back in Acrobat, but I swear I read > (somewhere) about a setting that would tell the system NOT to rotate the > page. I can't remember if it was in Distiller or in Frame. > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 14:39:50-GMT,2777;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21513 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:39:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09548; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:32:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:31:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09340; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:31:25 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP From: "Janet Loprano" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525680F.00506FB7.00@ctc2.ap.org> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:38:34 -0400 Subject: [PDF] anamorphic scaling and 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on APRelay1/TheAP(Release 5.0.1 (Intl)|16 July 1999) at 10/19/99 10:29:37 AM, Serialize by Router on APRelay1/TheAP(Release 5.0.1 (Intl)|16 July 1999) at 10/19/99 10:29:38 AM, Serialize complete at 10/19/99 10:29:38 AM X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I was asked to look into an interesting problem for one of our clients: They anamorphically scaled 2 CMYK EPS images in QuarkXPress. One image is scaled across 78% and down 65%, the other is scaled across 80% and down 67% and is rotated -3 degrees. PostScript is written, and the file distilled using Acrobat 4.0. When the ad is viewed in Acrobat, these images are just black boxes. If this same PS file is distilled using Acrobat 3.02 the PDF is fine. Curiously, if you do the same scaling (and rotating) in PhotoShop, the resulting PDF (from Acrobat 4.0) is fine. Because of this, I am reluctant to call this a "problem" with Acrobat 4.0. Are there any differences between Acrobat 3.02 and Acrobat 4.0 that might cause such a problem? Could it be how QuarkXPress is handling the scaling and rotating? Thanks in advance for any guidance. Cordially, Janet Loprano Senior Applications Specialist The Associated Press / AdSEND __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 15:27:57-GMT,2763;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22937 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:27:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13769; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:15:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:13:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13619; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:13:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199910191513.KAA13614@everglades.binc.net> Date: 19 Oct 99 11:14:33 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] anamorphic scaling and 4.0 To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA13615 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] anamorphic scaling and 4.0 >They anamorphically scaled 2 CMYK EPS images in QuarkXPress. One image is scaled >across 78% and down 65%, the other is scaled across 80% and down 67% and is >rotated -3 degrees. PostScript is written, and the file distilled using Acrobat >4.0. When the ad is viewed in Acrobat, these images are just black boxes. If >this same PS file is distilled using Acrobat 3.02 the PDF is fine. > > Curiously, if you do the same scaling (and rotating) in PhotoShop, the >resulting PDF (from Acrobat 4.0) is fine. Because of this, I am reluctant to >call this a "problem" with Acrobat 4.0. Let me ask you one question. If you go into Acrobat 4, select the "black box" and hit the delete key, is the artwork in question underneath? I have had this problem with MS Word documents using bxw artwork (image format unknown) using Distiller 4. If yes, save the pdf and continue. If no - sorry, it wasn't what I've encountered. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 15:48:38-GMT,2612;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23542 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:48:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16359; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:39:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:37:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16162; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:37:47 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP From: "Janet Loprano" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525680F.00568385.00@ctc2.ap.org> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:44:56 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] anamorphic scaling and 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on APRelay1/TheAP(Release 5.0.1 (Intl)|16 July 1999) at 10/19/99 11:36:00 AM, Serialize by Router on APRelay1/TheAP(Release 5.0.1 (Intl)|16 July 1999) at 10/19/99 11:36:01 AM, Serialize complete at 10/19/99 11:36:01 AM X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Justin, Unfortunately, when the image is slected and deleted, it's gone. Thanks anyway. Janet Justin Blocksom on 10/19/99 11:14:33 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf cc: (bcc: Janet Loprano/TheAP) Subject: RE: [PDF] anamorphic scaling and 4.0 Let me ask you one question. If you go into Acrobat 4, select the "black box" and hit the delete key, is the artwork in question underneath? I have had this problem with MS Word documents using bxw artwork (image format unknown) using Distiller 4. If yes, save the pdf and continue. If no - sorry, it wasn't what I've encountered. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 16:27:04-GMT,2522;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24654 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20136; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:17:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:14:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19951; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:14:58 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991019091425.00a7e8e0@rudy.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: mcshur@rudy.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:16:38 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steven McShurley Subject: Re: [PDF] anamorphic scaling and 4.0 In-Reply-To: <8525680F.00506FB7.00@ctc2.ap.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello Janet, I have not talked to you in a long time. Would it be possible to send a sample of the problem to me? I would like to reproduce the problem here and try to fix the problem. Steven McShurley Adobe Systems, Inc. At 10:38 AM 10/19/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Curiously, if you do the same scaling (and rotating) in PhotoShop, the >resulting PDF (from Acrobat 4.0) is fine. Because of this, I am reluctant to >call this a "problem" with Acrobat 4.0. > > Are there any differences between Acrobat 3.02 and Acrobat 4.0 that > might cause >such a problem? Could it be how QuarkXPress is handling the scaling and >rotating? > >Thanks in advance for any guidance. > >Cordially, >Janet Loprano >Senior Applications Specialist >The Associated Press / AdSEND > > > >__________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 16:47:46-GMT,3633;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25247 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:47:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22412; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:40:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:38:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22192; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:38:32 -0500 From: alfredc@softworkscc.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:45:27 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] The strange case of the repaginating PDF MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/223041237/223003969/223100773/ Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA22187 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I have a PDF that I generated using Word 97 with all the necessary patches and Acrobat Distiller 3.02. I had A4/Letter paper resizing selected in Word, which shouldn't make any difference since Acrobat is doing all the stretching, shoving, and tweaking to scale the page to fit on a given sheet of paper. Here is the riddle. As background information, this PDF contains embedded PostScript fonts that due to some glitch embedded as MSTTXXXXX fonts. However, I can press Control F and type in a word, and Acrobat Reader 4.0 will find the term in all instances. So I believe my fonts embedded properly, but they are misnamed. There are no graphics to speak of in this document except for the cover page. All screen shots are text-based. It's software for IBM's MVS mainframe environment. Ahh, but I mentioned a riddle you say. Here it is. I gave this PDF to a colleague in our UK office. He contacted me to let me know that on one of the pages, the header from one page was appearing in the footer of the previous page. However, in my identical copy of the PDF (same date, same file) I have no such problem in viewing or in printing it. The header and footer are fine. That's riddle one. The second riddle is that he tried to search for certain terms that he knew to be in the document, but while Acrobat found some of them for him, it did not find all instances. I could search the same PDF, however, and my copy of Reader found instances his did not. To my knowledge, he is using Acrobat Reader 4.0 as I am. Lastly, I did a test print on A4 paper to see if I had messed something up. The HP printed out the two pages without any problems on the pages. What could cause this? I am bewildered to put it mildly. Thank you in advance for any solutions you can think of, Alfred Cooper Softworks, Inc. 5845 Richmond Hwy., Suite 400 Alexandria, VA 22306 703-317-8816 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 16:59:08-GMT,3383;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25572 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:59:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23689; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:52:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:51:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23375; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:50:59 -0500 Message-ID: <68710573652FD311970C00805FE606B202F1BC95@lnxdayexch03.lexis-nexis.com> From: "Bernard, Robert K." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] anamorphic scaling and 4.0 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:50:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ LEAVE pdf-list robert.bernard@lexis-nexis.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Blocksom [SMTP:jblocksom@printandpub.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:15 AM > To: pdf > Subject: RE: [PDF] anamorphic scaling and 4.0 > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Reply to: RE: [PDF] anamorphic scaling and 4.0 > >They anamorphically scaled 2 CMYK EPS images in QuarkXPress. One image is > scaled > >across 78% and down 65%, the other is scaled across 80% and down 67% and > is > >rotated -3 degrees. PostScript is written, and the file distilled using > Acrobat > >4.0. When the ad is viewed in Acrobat, these images are just black boxes. > If > >this same PS file is distilled using Acrobat 3.02 the PDF is fine. > > > > Curiously, if you do the same scaling (and rotating) in PhotoShop, the > >resulting PDF (from Acrobat 4.0) is fine. Because of this, I am reluctant > to > >call this a "problem" with Acrobat 4.0. > > Let me ask you one question. If you go into Acrobat 4, select the "black > box" and > hit the delete key, is the artwork in question underneath? I have had this > problem > with MS Word documents using bxw artwork (image format unknown) using > Distiller 4. If yes, save the pdf and continue. If no - sorry, it wasn't > what I've encountered. > > Justin Blocksom > Digital Production Group > Printing & Publications Corp. > jblocksom@printandpub.com > > > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ > <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> > <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 17:52:48-GMT,3364;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27300 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:52:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29195; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:44:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:42:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28936; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:42:37 -0500 From: james_dwyer@frankel.com Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Rotated PDF Pages Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:38:02 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on frankgate.frankel.com/Frankel(Release 5.0.1|July 16, 1999) at 10/19/99 12:39:11 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotated PDF Pages From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com (owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com)owner- pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at FRANKEL Date: 10/19/99 10:30 AM The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Settings in Distiller, for page size, try altering the numbers to alter the orientation. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > After I distill this simple file, the page is rotated from portrait to > landscape. Yes, I know I can rotate it back in Acrobat, but I swear I read > (somewhere) about a setting that would tell the system NOT to rotate the > page. I can't remember if it was in Distiller or in Frame. > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 18:33:12-GMT,2480;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28481 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:33:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00732; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:25:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:24:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00577; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:24:06 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1FF5@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Request for your impressions of PitStop 4 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:19:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm considering purchasing PitStop 4, in order to streamline checking for errors in a large collection of PDF files (missing characters, etc.). However, I am unable to download the demo version of PitStop from the Enfocus web page. So, in absence of this ability to test the product myself, I was wondering if any of you have used or are using PitStop, and if you wouldn't mind, could you let me know your thoughts on the product? How good is it at catching errors? Is there anything you wish you knew about PitStop before you bought it, etc. Feel free to respond to me directly. Thanks. ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 19:43:21-GMT,2740;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00521 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:43:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07462; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:29:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:27:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07271; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:27:43 -0500 From: alfredc@softworkscc.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:34:34 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/223041237/223003969/223100773/ Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA07266 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In response to Leonard's comments about Acrobat's RC4 encryption in which he said: >The basic answer is that RC4 at 40 bits (what Acrobat's >standard security handler uses) is pretty weak. I don't have the >specifics, but it doesn't take all that much computing power to >break it. >There has been talk, now that the US Gov't has approved it, of >Adobe moving to 56 bits which makes it definitely harder (months >vs. days/weeks) to break. >Leonard While on the topic of encryption, I thought I would mention this. While you can't run down to Wal-Mart or Harrods to buy it yet, an Israeli research institute used a quantum computer to crack a RSA-512 code, which is a 512 bit encryption scheme. The code happened to belong to the European banking systems, and the researches broke the code in under a second. Once it was thought that such a code would take several thousand years to break. Here's the link to the article: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/99/09/29/timintint02001.html? 1341861 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 19:56:20-GMT,3635;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01048 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:56:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09593; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:47:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:46:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09422; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:46:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] The strange case of the repaginating PDF From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991019194429.FRXY16481.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You have a corrupt PDF, that is specifically, a font corruption. I have seen several of these over the last year from clients, and all were easily fixed by replacing the text hat was messing up the specific page. Yes sometimes the page printed, usually to specific printers, and yes it usually looked OK on screen, but usually a graphic was messed up. Well it has never been the graphic, it was always the font, and almost always only one page causing the error. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > > Ahh, but I mentioned a riddle you say. Here it is. I gave this PDF to a > colleague in our UK office. He contacted me to let me know that on one of > the pages, the header from one page was appearing in the footer of the > previous page. However, in my identical copy of the PDF (same date, same > file) I have no such problem in viewing or in printing it. The header and > footer are fine. That's riddle one. The second riddle is that he tried to > search for certain terms that he knew to be in the document, but while > Acrobat found some of them for him, it did not find all instances. I > could search the same PDF, however, and my copy of Reader found instances > his did not. > > To my knowledge, he is using Acrobat Reader 4.0 as I am. Lastly, I did a > test print on A4 paper to see if I had messed something up. The HP > printed out the two pages without any problems on the pages. What could > cause this? I am bewildered to put it mildly. > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 19:56:58-GMT,2513;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01074 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:56:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09851; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:49:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:48:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09654; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:48:09 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:48:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Request for your impressions of PitStop 4 From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-Id: <19991019194620.FSTW16481.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA09639 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Pitstop ‹ But it! Nuff said! You'll make the money back the first time you use it. I have all my customers and students acwuire it, and I use it religiously, daily. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > > I'm considering purchasing PitStop 4, __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 20:59:40-GMT,4738;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02837 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:59:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16708; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:50:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:47:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16535; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:47:49 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01bf1a72$e9193340$09181b3f@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] The strange case of the repaginating PDF Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:45:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I will be very interested in responses/causes of the printing problem. Sometime ago I posted something very similar. Documents created in Europe would not print correctly on my printer here in the US. Top part of the header was cut off. Shrink to fit didn't correct the problem. Finally, I ended up printing to a non PS printer and it printed fine. I don't understand the font/PS issues so I'm still not sure what the problem was. SueG -----Original Message----- From: alfredc@softworkscc.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 9:53 AM Subject: [PDF] The strange case of the repaginating PDF > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Hi, > >I have a PDF that I generated using Word 97 with all the necessary >patches and Acrobat Distiller 3.02. I had A4/Letter paper resizing >selected in Word, which shouldn't make any difference since Acrobat is >doing all the stretching, shoving, and tweaking to scale the page to fit >on a given sheet of paper. > >Here is the riddle. As background information, this PDF contains embedded >PostScript fonts that due to some glitch embedded as MSTTXXXXX fonts. >However, I can press Control F and type in a word, and Acrobat Reader 4.0 >will find the term in all instances. So I believe my fonts embedded >properly, but they are misnamed. There are no graphics to speak of in >this document except for the cover page. All screen shots are text-based. >It's software for IBM's MVS mainframe environment. > >Ahh, but I mentioned a riddle you say. Here it is. I gave this PDF to a >colleague in our UK office. He contacted me to let me know that on one of >the pages, the header from one page was appearing in the footer of the >previous page. However, in my identical copy of the PDF (same date, same >file) I have no such problem in viewing or in printing it. The header and >footer are fine. That's riddle one. The second riddle is that he tried to >search for certain terms that he knew to be in the document, but while >Acrobat found some of them for him, it did not find all instances. I >could search the same PDF, however, and my copy of Reader found instances >his did not. > >To my knowledge, he is using Acrobat Reader 4.0 as I am. Lastly, I did a >test print on A4 paper to see if I had messed something up. The HP >printed out the two pages without any problems on the pages. What could >cause this? I am bewildered to put it mildly. > >Thank you in advance for any solutions you can think of, > >Alfred Cooper >Softworks, Inc. >5845 Richmond Hwy., Suite 400 >Alexandria, VA 22306 >703-317-8816 > >__________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________ > <- Try out two new experimental online PDF services from Adobe -> > <- DETAILS @ http://www.pdfzone.com/news/CreatePDFonline.html -> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Oct-1999 22:23:36-GMT,2691;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05008 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:23:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26322; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:15:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:13:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26096; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:13:09 -0500 Message-ID: Message-ID: From: Salina Chan To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Unable to save/ save as Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:12:59 +1300 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi List This is the first time I am posting a question, I hope some body can help... I have just installed (upgraded from 3)Acrobat 4 (exchange) on my mac and when I tried to save a pdf (created in version 3) file that I opened and made little view changes, it says "The document could not be saved. unable to open file for writing. It may be locked or unavailable." I also tried opening another pdf (created in version 3 as well) and got a similar error (files can't be read) when saved but with an error number 109. Please Help! Regards, Salina Chan Graphic Designer Beca Carter Hollings & Ferner Ltd DDI (09)308 0820 NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 3:07:19-GMT,1795;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11305 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15789; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:49:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:46:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15542; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:46:40 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389535758@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Using PDF File for online help in application software Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:45:36 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Carlos, Can you explain your technique for 'context-sensitive' help in PDF's? Did you use VBA in Access to automate the connection? Dave......... __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 7:20:37-GMT,2966;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA16789 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:11:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA01719; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 02:03:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:59:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA01320; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:59:45 -0500 Message-ID: <380DE70A.6B372D6D@lauterkranz.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:00:19 -0700 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotated PDF Pages References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi. Try this: Go to Distiller directory "Startup", open file "Example.ps" with Texteditor , somwhere before the line "%%EOF" add this: <> setdistillerparams restart distiller ! By the way: This feature can be found in The Help Distprm.pdf (OOMR) = Organization Of Manual Readers Richard mpaz@intrieve.com wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I searched for this in the archives and posted it on another list but couldn't find the answer. > > I've created a simple one page FM file that is to serve as a menu in PDF format. There is some text on the page and in a text box, but the page is pretty empty as it will ultimately hold buttons and graphic links created in Acrobat. > > After I distill this simple file, the page is rotated from portrait to landscape. Yes, I know I can rotate it back in Acrobat, but I swear I read (somewhere) about a setting that would tell the system NOT to rotate the page. I can't remember if it was in Distiller or in Frame. > > I'm using Acrobat 4.0 (compatible with 3.0) and FrameMaker 5.5.3 on a Novel LAN, Windows 95. Thanks in advance. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 8:39:29-GMT,3008;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA18453 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 02:39:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07751; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 03:29:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 03:25:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA07497; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 03:25:25 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:34:34 CDT." Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:25:09 +0100 Message-ID: <14787.940407909@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA07493 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:34:34 CDT, alfredc@softworkscc.com wrote: > While on the topic of encryption, I thought I would mention this. While > you can't run down to Wal-Mart or Harrods to buy it yet, an Israeli > research institute used a quantum computer to crack a RSA-512 code, which > is a 512 bit encryption scheme. The code happened to belong to the > European banking systems, and the researches broke the code in under a > second. Once it was thought that such a code would take several thousand > years to break. The article you quoted is widely believed to be wrong. (What, a journalist making mistakes? ;-) Don't take my word for it, here's what Bruce Schneier says about it in his October CryptoGram: "There have been some bizarre news reports about a hand-held quantum computer able to break RSA in almost real time, supposedly developed at the Weizmann Institute in Israel. This feels very much like the movie _Sneakers_, and near as I can tell there is no truth to the rumor. There is one piece of real news that haas come out of this: the European Institute of Quantum Computing has been announced." CryptoGram is at http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram.html Chris __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 11:54:39-GMT,2044;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21979 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 05:54:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20919; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:41:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:37:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20538; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:37:09 -0500 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256810.003FEB84.00@smtpmta.vapower.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:36:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Unable to save/ save as Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Salina, You don't say if you are on a network, which may be a factor here. I have had trouble from time to time doing a Save As. I found that if I first do a Save that the Save As then will work. Don't know what's behind this behavior. +++++++++++++++++ when I tried to save a pdf (created in version 3) file that I opened and made little view changes, it says "The document could not be saved. unable to open file for writing. It may be locked or unavailable." __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 13:56:49-GMT,3029;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24449 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:56:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31756; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:47:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:45:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31523; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:45:07 -0500 From: mpaz@intrieve.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 9:43:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, lauterkranz@lauterkranz.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Rotated PDF Pages MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/222041504/222002932/222090653/ X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 132e" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA31516 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Earlier I wrote: > I've created a simple one page FM file that is to serve as a menu in PDF format. There is some text on the page and in a text box, but the page is pretty empty as it will ultimately hold buttons and graphic links created in Acrobat. > > After I distill this simple file, the page is rotated from portrait to landscape. Yes, I know I can rotate it back in Acrobat, but I swear I read (somewhere) about a setting that would tell the system NOT to rotate the page. I can't remember if it was in Distiller or in Frame. > > I'm using Acrobat 4.0 (compatible with 3.0) and FrameMaker 5.5.3 on a Novel LAN, Windows 95. Thanks in advance. ===================== Answer posted: Go to Distiller directory "Startup", open file "Example.ps" with Texteditor , somwhere before the line "%%EOF" add this: <> setdistillerparams Sadly, it didn't work. I edited the example.ps file with the above code with notepad, saved it, rebooted and tried again. No dice - the page was still rotated. Anything more I should have done? Lani Paz ********************************** Intrieve Incorporated 312 Plum St. PO Box 5412 Cincinnati, OH 45201-5412 Voice.......(513) 381-9400 Fax.........(513) 381-9509 www.intrieve.com ********************************** __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 14:42:29-GMT,3029;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25674 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:42:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04669; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:34:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:33:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04489; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:33:01 -0500 Message-ID: <002201bf1b10$d0e5a1c0$a5d3523e@none.servicom.es> From: "=?utf-7?Q?Carlos_Gonz+AOE-lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Using PDF File for online help in application software Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:35:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dave: +AD4-Can you explain your technique for 'context-sensitive' help in PDF's? Did +AD4-you use VBA in Access to automate the connection? Yes, I use VBA (driven from an ACCESS database) I've used PDF as help for an aplication. But it wasn't context sensitive. The user had to choose the subject in the pdf file, once opened, through bookmarks, links, etc. But there's a way, I think, to make it context sensitive. What comes to my mind is: Let's suppose the help file is ONE (not two..) PDF. Besides the internal links in the PDF relating one subject to another, you would have to: 1.-Build a table that connects the various help contexts with the right page numbers of the PDF. 2.-The +ACI-OpeninWindowex+ACI- method has the value +ACI-PgNum+ACI- which tells Acrobat which page to open to. Write a functin that extracts, taking in consideration the context, the paga number from the table. Use the value obtained in the OpeninWindowex method. That wouldn't be very (very) difficult. Anyway, I'm thinking with the VWIACREF that was written for Exchange 3.0. There probably is a newer version of this doc that offers you more possibilities. (I don't know where) May be this can help you. If not.. it might be a start. Regards, Carlos. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 17:07:35-GMT,5882;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29772 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:07:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21022; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:59:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:57:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20805; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:57:21 -0500 From: John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:54:52 -0400 Message-ID: <001CBB81.C22094@am.pnu.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] The strange case of the repaginating PDF To: "PDF Discussion List" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Alfred Cooper (alfredc@softworkscc.com) wrote: "I have a PDF that I generated using Word 97 with all the necessary patches and Acrobat Distiller 3.02. ... "Here is the riddle. As background information, this PDF contains embedded PostScript fonts that due to some glitch embedded as MSTTXXXXX fonts. However, I can press Control F and type in a word, and Acrobat Reader 4.0 will find the term in all instances. So I believe my fonts embedded properly, but they are misnamed." When a PDF file created by Distiller has fonts named 'MSTTxxxx...,' it means that the Word97 document was composed with TrueType fonts and the PostScript printer driver -- AdobePS 4.x under Win95/98, if I'm not mistaken -- used to create the PS file for Distiller was set to send TrueType fonts as outlines. A PS Type 1 font with a unique name, 'MSTTxxxx...,' is synthesized and, if embedding is specified, embedded in the PDF file for those TrueType fonts for which no PostScript Type 1 font is specified as a substitute in the font substitution table that the printer driver references. The unique name avoids accidentally calling for an existing, probably unrelated, font name on the target system when the PDF file is viewed. "The second riddle is that he tried to search for certain terms that he knew to be in the document, but while Acrobat found some of them for him, it did not find all instances. I could search the same PDF, however, and my copy of Reader found instances his did not." To quote from Adobe's ReadMe2.WRI file on the Acrobat 3 CD-ROM, "Windows 95 and TrueType Fonts - All files using TrueType fonts and output to PostScript result in PDF files in which strings can not be found by the Find tool or Acrobat Search. This occurs with either the Microsoft or Adobe PostScript printer drivers. The fonts are remapped at PostScript generation time which disconnects the character you see on screen from that character in the font. Solution: Use Type1 fonts or use Acrobat PDFWriter to create the PDF file." In our experience, text composed in Word97 with TT fonts and rendered to PDF under Win95/98 using Distiller copies as gibberish, cannot be searched, and cannot be indexed with Catalog, unless PS Type 1 fonts can be substituted for the TT fonts by the printer driver. Font substitution is a dangerous process unless you are Absolutely Sure of the equivalence of the fonts: same character set, same set of glyphs available, same metrics, same weight, etc. If the fonts aren't truly equivalent, characters may simply "disappear" in the PDF file. Your best solution is to install Adobe Type Manager and use PS Type 1 fonts to compose your Word97 documents. However, if you must use TrueType fonts, upgrade to Acrobat 4 and use AdobePS 4.3.1 set to send TrueType fonts as Type 42 fonts. This will solve your copy and search problems. You may set Distiller 4 to create Acrobat 3 compatible PDF files. However, you may find that certain symbol characters or characters from some subsets of Unicode(r) fonts, such as Times New Roman, will not display or print correctly from Acrobat 3 viewers. Acrobat 4 viewers will handle all characters correctly, in our experience. "I gave this PDF to a colleague in our UK office. He contacted me to let me know that on one of the pages, the header from one page was appearing in the footer of the previous page. However, in my identical copy of the PDF (same date, same file) I have no such problem in viewing or in printing it. The header and footer are fine. That's riddle one. "To my knowledge, he is using Acrobat Reader 4.0 as I am. Lastly, I did a test print on A4 paper to see if I had messed something up. The HP printed out the two pages without any problems on the pages. What could cause this? I am bewildered to put it mildly." Are you -- and especially your UK colleague -- printing from Acrobat Reader with "Fit to page" checked? Hope this helps. --John E. Stuurwold Information Scientist Pharmacia & Upjohn Animal Health __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 15:54:40-GMT,2215;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27612 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:54:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12250; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:45:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:41:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11840; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:41:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199910201541.KAA11824@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:45:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotated PDF Pages From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Go to Distiller directory "Startup", open file "Example.ps" with > Texteditor , somwhere before the line "%%EOF" add this: > > <> setdistillerparams > The above code won't work because PostScript is case sensitive. Use the following instead. <> setdistillerparams You can also use: /All to have all the pages rotated to the same orientation. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 19:23:33-GMT,2554;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03745 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:23:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05088; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:13:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:10:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04610; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:10:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199910201910.OAA04605@everglades.binc.net> Date: 20 Oct 99 15:11:17 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Type 1 To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA04606 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: [PDF] Using Type 1 >Solution: Use Type1 fonts or use Acrobat PDFWriter to create the PDF file. >Your best solution is to install Adobe Type Manager and use PS Type 1 fonts I would like to use type 1 fonts on my PC, I do all the time on the Mac. Do you have to have Adobe Type Manager to be able to do this? Or is there a workaround like dropping them someplace in the system folder like you can on the Mac? (I don't do this by the way-I have MasterJuggler) My fonts folder in Windows doesn't recognize them as valid fonts. Sorry for such a basic Windows question, I thought that one day I'd just figure it out, but nothing has come to me yet. I'd love to be able to incorporate Type 1 fonts into my PDF documents in Windows. Help? Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 20:01:02-GMT,2452;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04765 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:01:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10596; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:51:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:49:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10166; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:49:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991020155539.0098a870@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:55:39 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Type 1 In-Reply-To: <199910201910.OAA04605@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I would like to use type 1 fonts on my PC, I do all the time on the Mac. Do you >have to have Adobe Type Manager to be able to do this? Yes. You need ATM to use Type1s in Windows. It's available in a basic version that allows you to use them and a Deluxe version that includes a decent font manager, which allows to create font packs for specific situations, install and uninstall them on the fly, and several other niceties. NT requires its own specific version of ATM, by the way. ("Doesn't play well with others" is what the teachers used to say about NT when it was young.) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 21:26:51-GMT,2205;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07331 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:26:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24045; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:04:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:02:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23676; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:02:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: asumarta@209.108.204.130 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:01:56 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: asumarta@totalint.com (Alex Sumarta) Subject: Re: [PDF] Unable to save/ save as Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >I have just installed (upgraded from 3)Acrobat 4 (exchange) on my mac and >when I tried to save a pdf (created in version 3) file that I opened and >made little view changes, it says >"The document could not be saved. unable to open file for writing. It may be >locked or unavailable." > >I also tried opening another pdf (created in version 3 as well) and got a >similar error (files can't be read) when saved but with an error number 109. > Try deselecting Optimize option in the Save as window. -Alex Sumarta __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 21:36:27-GMT,2563;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07676 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:36:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27863; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:26:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:24:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27554; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:24:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199910202124.QAA27546@everglades.binc.net> Subject: RE: [PDF] Message error on opening a pdf Date: Thu, 21 Oct 99 10:34:22 +1300 x-sender: craigl@mail.siren.co.nz x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Craig Lauridsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ 10/19/99, Aandi Inston wrote: >"THIS FILE CONTAINS INFORMATION NOT UNDERSTOOD > BY THE VIEWER. SUPPRESS FURTHER ERRORS YES? NO?" I have seen a similar message some time ago, so the wording may not be for exactly the same cause. In this case I created a PDF on a Mac, saved it to PC format floppy for a PC. On opening the file the error message was displayed. The file itself then opened and appeared largely intact except for missing elements in one graphic and a green background element which was not in the file at all. My solution ended up being as simple as recopying the same file, without alteration onto a new floppy and the file worked fine. The original floppy must have contained a bad block/dirt etc and so the portion of the file copied onto it damaged the file, but not enough to prohibit Acrobat attempting to read the file, and being 95% successful except for a couple of elements. Craig Lauridsen Acumen Technical Design and Training __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-1999 21:41:15-GMT,1816;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07836 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:41:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28920; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:32:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:31:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28611; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:31:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199910202131.QAA28564@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption Date: Thu, 21 Oct 99 10:41:12 +1300 x-sender: craigl@mail.siren.co.nz x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Craig Lauridsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I found a very readable introduction to and explanation of encryption and RC4 in Bill Gates book 'The Road Ahead', if enyone wants to understand it a little better. Craig Lauridsen Acumen Technical Design and Training __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 0:14:38-GMT,3604;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11770 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:14:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14831; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:04:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:02:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14579; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:02:52 -0500 Message-ID: Message-ID: From: Salina Chan To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Unable to save/ save as Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:00:09 +1300 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for your suggestion, Alex. But it doesn't work. What I have also discovered today is it doesn't work with pdf created in Acrobat 4 either! I can save on version4, but I can't do save as-I get the same 109 error. Anybody know what error 109 stand for? Any help will be much appreciated. -Salina > ---------- > From: asumarta@totalint.com > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 10:01 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Unable to save/ save as > Importance: High > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > >I have just installed (upgraded from 3)Acrobat 4 (exchange) on my mac > and > >when I tried to save a pdf (created in version 3) file that I opened and > >made little view changes, it says > >"The document could not be saved. unable to open file for writing. It may > be > >locked or unavailable." > > > >I also tried opening another pdf (created in version 3 as well) and got a > >similar error (files can't be read) when saved but with an error number > 109. > > > > Try deselecting Optimize option in the Save as window. > > -Alex Sumarta > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ > <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> > <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 0:47:54-GMT,2401;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12552 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:47:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18506; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:38:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:36:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18321; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:36:50 -0500 From: TerryFCSI@aol.com Message-ID: <0.533b02d7.253fba07@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:36:23 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Security of RC4 encryption To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I think that all of the discussion on this topic is great. When I "screamed" last week I was only looking to make it more dificult for someone to take my work. There are over a thousand uncontrolled paper copies of my documents around. If someone wants to scan it, format it and reconstruct it they can do it. But I sell it cheaper than going through all that. However, if you make it so that they can select the text (with all the style formatting in place) and 15 meg pictures that I have aquired over a ten year period and just change the headers and the footers - then that impacts my business. I am a small business doing contract work for large corporations I couldn't afford to fight them in any legal sense and I believe that prevention is the best solution. Terry Kerns Fire/Chemical Safety Instruction __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 0:56:31-GMT,3373;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12694 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:56:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19896; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:49:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:46:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19562; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:46:23 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991020174354.00ac0a20@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:46:14 -0700 To: "Jason Belec" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotated PDF Pages Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <19991019142831.USEO8488.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218. 247]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The Distiller's page size settings have no effect whatsoever here. Those settings are for the default page size, assuming that the PostScript stream does not include a page size. Every Adobe-provided PostScript driver as well as every major application from Adobe and elsewhere generates PostScript print streams with a page size. EPS files that are distilled are the only common example in which the Distiller's default page size is utilized. - Dov At 10/19/99 07:30 AM , Jason Belec wrote: >Settings in Distiller, for page size, try altering the numbers to alter the >orientation. >-- >Jason Belec :)~ >Digital Workflows Specialist, >especially PDF > >pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." >(613) 824-2243 EST > >PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions >Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions >New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com > >Articles of Interest: > http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html > http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html > http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf > > >---------- > > After I distill this simple file, the page is rotated from portrait to > > landscape. Yes, I know I can rotate it back in Acrobat, but I swear I read > > (somewhere) about a setting that would tell the system NOT to rotate the > > page. I can't remember if it was in Distiller or in Frame. > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 5:13:59-GMT,4071;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18234 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:13:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11897; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:02:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:58:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11520; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:58:39 -0500 Message-ID: Message-ID: From: Salina Chan To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Unable to save/ save as Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:49:51 +1300 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi List Just answering my own question, or may be just explain a bit more on what I have discovered. What I realize is that if I copy the file onto my desktop and go save or save as and save it to my desktop (replace exiting file or create new file), everything is fine. Somehow this problem reminds me a lot of the problem I have with using Photoshop 5. Once we have upgraded to 5.0.2, our novell servers are talking to Photoshop again and I can save photoshop created files to my server. I start to think it's an "Adobe specialty" that they are throwing onto their upgrades. It's a worry. Not preciously solved the problem, but if the problem can't be solved by us, then I guess we have done as much as we can in understanding the problem. Thanks again -Salina :) > ---------- > From: asumarta@totalint.com > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 10:01 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Unable to save/ save as > Importance: High > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > >I have just installed (upgraded from 3)Acrobat 4 (exchange) on my mac > and > >when I tried to save a pdf (created in version 3) file that I opened and > >made little view changes, it says > >"The document could not be saved. unable to open file for writing. It may > be > >locked or unavailable." > > > >I also tried opening another pdf (created in version 3 as well) and got a > >similar error (files can't be read) when saved but with an error number > 109. > > > > Try deselecting Optimize option in the Save as window. > > -Alex Sumarta > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ > <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> > <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 5:14:12-GMT,4026;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18236 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:13:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11864; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:02:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:58:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11496; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:58:34 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389535787@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Using PDF File for online help in application software Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:57:44 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id XAA11492 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ thanks for the insight ... the dox you refer to can be found at http://partners.adobe.com you can download the entire Acrobat 4.0 SDK documentation, which includes among others the IAC documentation. > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos González [SMTP:laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 11:36 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Using PDF File for online help in application > software > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Dave: > > >Can you explain your technique for 'context-sensitive' help in PDF's? > Did > >you use VBA in Access to automate the connection? > > > Yes, I use VBA (driven from an ACCESS database) > > I've used PDF as help for an aplication. But it wasn't context sensitive. > The user had to choose the > subject in the pdf file, once opened, through bookmarks, links, etc. > > But there's a way, I think, to make it context sensitive. > > What comes to my mind is: > > Let's suppose the help file is ONE (not two..) PDF. > > Besides the internal links in the PDF relating one subject to another, you > would have to: > > 1.-Build a table that connects the various help contexts with the right > page numbers of the PDF. > > 2.-The "OpeninWindowex" method has the value "PgNum" which tells Acrobat > which page to open to. > > Write a functin that extracts, taking in consideration the context, the > paga number from the table. > > Use the value obtained in the OpeninWindowex method. > > > That wouldn't be very (very) difficult. > > Anyway, I'm thinking with the VWIACREF that was written for Exchange 3.0. > > There probably is a newer version of this doc that offers you more > possibilities. (I don't know > where) > > May be this can help you. If not.. it might be a start. > > Regards, > > Carlos. > > > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ > <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> > <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 9:27:01-GMT,2240;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA23404 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:26:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA30163; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:15:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:09:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA29635; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:09:39 -0500 Message-Id: <01BF1BB5.319A9CB0.fsjogren@folksam.se> From: "Fredrik Sjogren" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: SV: [PDF] Unable to save/ save as Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:12:41 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA29630 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ this seams like a Adobe specefic problem. when we do a "Sav As" in photoshop, pagemaker or illustrtor over the network the files are sometimes locked, and only the administrator can open them. we have NT Workstation and NT Server. \\\freek > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Frĺn: Salina Chan [SMTP:schan@beca.co.nz] > Skickat: den 21 oktober 1999 06:50 > Till: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Ämne: RE: [PDF] Unable to save/ save as > Prioritet: Hög > > <> __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 14:19:33-GMT,2278;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29099 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22981; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:05:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:57:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21801; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:57:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991021100327.0098cbc0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:03:27 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: SV: [PDF] Unable to save/ save as In-Reply-To: <01BF1BB5.319A9CB0.fsjogren@folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >this seams like a Adobe specefic problem. when we do a "Sav As" in >photoshop, pagemaker or illustrtor over the network the files are sometimes >locked, and only the administrator can open them. we have NT Workstation >and NT Server. > Odd. I have Pagemaker and Acrobat Exchange running on an NT4 box saving stuff to an NT4 server and don't see this problem. I wonder what the differences are? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- Get Acrobat, Get Well? Read about free medical resources in PDF -> <- Showcase: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ama-pdf.html -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 18:19:35-GMT,2887;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06079 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:19:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22741; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:09:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:05:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22046; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:05:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:08:08 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] FYI> New column of PDF forms & JavaScript debuts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ "The AcroForm Advisor" bi-monthly column launched ______________________________________________ Kas Thomas, prolific writer and active email list participant, today launches the first in a series of bi-monthly columns produced for PDFzone.com. In "Forms, JavaScript and You," Thomas sets the tone of and theme for his now-regular "AcroForm Advisor" column. "One fact we need to get straight: JavaScript for PDF is not the same as JavaScript for browsers and HTML pages," he writes. Read his inaugural piece, then stay tuned for future editions that will continue to explore the world of PDF-based forms. ***ALSO*** If you have a specific Acrobat/PDF experience or area of expertise that might help to educate others, we'd like to hear about it. We're expanding our base of contributors -- regular, occasional and/or one-time writers -- and will likewise be expanding an area within the PDFzone.com site to give greater voice to the user community. Got something to offer your colleagues? We'll help to promote and distribute relevant, informational (not purely commercial) materials to a global, Acrobat-aware audience. ° CONTACT: PDFzone.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 19:45:37-GMT,4276;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08555 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:45:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01799; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:36:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:32:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01359; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:32:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:30:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF1BFA.F6C20B6E" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF1BFA.F6C20B6E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am just getting caught up on reading the posts to this list. What version of Distiller are you using to create the PDFs, and what version of Acrobat/Reader/Exchange are you using to view them? About a year ago (before Acrobat 4.0 was released), I did some extensive research on this problem and learned that there really was not a good solution. However, I been told by a couple of sources (whose names I've forgotten now) that things should be much better with version 4.0. I haven't confirmed this myself, though. - Cynthia Leslie on 09/24/1999 Steve Panish wrote: >When I convert MSWord 97 docs to PDF the images are being degraded to unusable quality--- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF1BFA.F6C20B6E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

I am just getting caught up on reading the posts to this list.

What version of Distiller are you using to create the PDFs, and what version of Acrobat/Reader/Exchange are you using to view them?

About a year ago (before Acrobat 4.0 was released), I did some extensive research on this problem and learned that there really was not a good solution. However, I been told by a couple of sources (whose names I've forgotten now) that things should be much better with version 4.0. I haven't confirmed this myself, though.

- Cynthia Leslie

on 09/24/1999 Steve Panish wrote:

>When I convert MSWord 97 docs to PDF the images are being degraded to unusable quality--- 

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF1BFA.F6C20B6E-- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 20:25:30-GMT,1953;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09614 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07124; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:17:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:15:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06943; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:15:32 -0500 Message-ID: <000901bf1c02$6649fb20$a1a7e13f@nt-server.tgiaso> From: "ron" To: Subject: [PDF] Local Render Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:23:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone have a copy of the old Local Render from CDC? I threw away the download file, and I need to reload. If not, does anyone have any suggestions on a speedy 1 time conversion of 2k word docs, done in a 95/98 system? Thanks, Ron Culp TGIASO, Inc 281.423.5584 __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 21:29:05-GMT,3818;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11305 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:29:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14783; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:22:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:20:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14493; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:20:44 -0500 From: John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:18:31 -0400 Message-ID: <001CF112.C22094@am.pnu.com> Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDF-Basics] Compose repeats headings Compose repeats he To: "PDF Discussion List" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Mark L. Levinson wrote: "I just started using Compose 4.0 with Acrobat 4.0 on Win NT. I'd experimented with it at my previous job and found that its automatic bookmark generation worked just fine. "Now, it works fine except in one respect: All the titles repeat themselves several times in the bookmarks. Even if the title applies to only one page in the book, it will be listed not as "About this stuff" but as "About this stuff About this stuff About this stuff About this stuff," all on the same line. "Compose has a checkbox especially for suppressing repeated headings (in cases where the source document itself reproduces the heading several times), but the checkbox doesn't influence my kind of repetition. "Any ideas? Has anyone else seen this phenomenon?" Yup, seen it. Yup, got ideas, too. The suppress repeated headings checkbox has nothing to do with this problem. In our experience, this problem only arises when the source document is composed with TrueType fonts and the PDF file is rendered by Distiller. Distiller 4, used with the AdobePS 5.1 driver and the ADist4.PPD file, was a BIG improvement over Distiller 3. Based on some truly ugly experiences with Distiller 3 using AdobePS settings that synthesized a PS font in place of a TrueType font for which no PS Type 1 substitute was available, I'd advise that you use one of the options in the AdobePS driver that will send a real TT font (PS Type 42), not a "TTxxxxx..." PS Type 1 font synthesized from the TT font. Embed the fonts in the PDF file. However, the danger in embedding a TT font (PS Type 42), is that users who view the PDF file with a v3 viewer may get error messages about the inability to re-encode and properly display a character / font. Best bet? Get ATM Deluxe for NT and use PS Type 1 fonts when you create your docs. Compose never fails with those. Hope this helps, Mark. --John E. Stuurwold Information Scientist Pharmacia & Upjohn Animal Health __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-1999 23:28:11-GMT,3214;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14789 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:28:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26468; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:20:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:17:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26213; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:17:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199910212319.QAA69348@ohmaha.inetworld.net> Date: 21 Oct 99 16:37:20 -0700 From: "B&B Fass-Holmes" Subject: [PDF] PDF problem Mac to Windows To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA26206 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am using Acrobat Distiller 3.0.2 for the PowerMac. When I need to print a document on a Wintel (Windows 95; not networked) system (Acrobat Reader 3.0) connected to a multifunction device (Brother), I generate a PDF directly onto a DOS-formatted floppy disk. I use the 8.3 naming convention and "pdf" is the extension. I create at least two iterations of each PDF and test their integrity by opening them in Exchange 3.0.1 on my PowerMac and also in DataViz File Viewer. More often than not, at least one of the PDF iterations of a given document will fail to open on the Wintel system. The alert is not very informative; something like "the file could not be opened." But this scenario is intermittent. On some occasions, using the exact same diskette, each of my PDFs opens just fine on that Wintel system. To complicate matters further, on some (but not all) occasions I find that a PDF does *not* display properly in File Viewer (the header is there, but nothing else!). In other words, I have printed two iterations of a file to PDF. Both files show up in the Finder as having the same size. Yet one opens properly in File Viewer (I can see all the code) while the other opens and only the header is present. And just yesterday I sent a bunch of PDFs to a Wintel user and he reported that he could not open some of them even though I had successfully opened them in Exchange and File Viewer on my PowerMac! Any ideas what I'm doing wrong and/or need to do differently? Many thanks in advance. Barry F-H __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 3:19:29-GMT,4195;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20201 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:19:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14361; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:12:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:08:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13994; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:08:54 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991021200307.00bf3590@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:08:04 -0700 To: "B&B Fass-Holmes" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF problem Mac to Windows Cc: pdf In-Reply-To: <199910212319.QAA69348@ohmaha.inetworld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10/21/99 04:37 PM , B&B Fass-Holmes wrote: >I am using Acrobat Distiller 3.0.2 for the PowerMac. > >When I need to print a document on a Wintel (Windows 95; not networked) system (Acrobat Reader 3.0) connected to a multifunction device (Brother), I generate a PDF directly onto a DOS-formatted floppy disk. I use the 8.3 naming convention and "pdf" is the extension. > >I create at least two iterations of each PDF and test their integrity by opening them in Exchange 3.0.1 on my PowerMac and also in DataViz File Viewer. > >More often than not, at least one of the PDF iterations of a given document will fail to open on the Wintel system. The alert is not very informative; something like "the file could not be opened." > >But this scenario is intermittent. On some occasions, using the exact same diskette, each of my PDFs opens just fine on that Wintel system. > >To complicate matters further, on some (but not all) occasions I find that a PDF does *not* display properly in File Viewer (the header is there, but nothing else!). In other words, I have printed two iterations of a file to PDF. Both files show up in the Finder as having the same size. Yet one opens properly in File Viewer (I can see all the code) while the other opens and only the header is present. > >And just yesterday I sent a bunch of PDFs to a Wintel user and he reported that he could not open some of them even though I had successfully opened them in Exchange and File Viewer on my PowerMac! > >Any ideas what I'm doing wrong and/or need to do differently? > >Many thanks in advance. > >Barry F-H There should be no reason whatsoever to do anything special. Simply drag and drop the PDF file from your Mac to the PC-format diskette. By using the file suffix .PDF or .pdf, you assure that any Windows system that has Acrobat or Acrobat Reader installed will recognize the file as a PDF file. You should not do anything to the file with Dataviz or any other "conversion" utility. It doesn't need any conversion. In fact any system service attempts to change the PDF file's supposed line endings (changing all carriage return characters to carriage return/line feed combos, for example) effectively ruins the file. Turn off the Dataviz stuff and you be more likely to succeed. - Dov __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 8:02:16-GMT,5196;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26188 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:02:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA01219; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:50:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:48:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01071; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:48:35 -0500 Message-ID: <002201bf1c62$7515d100$214315a5@magix.com.sg> From: "Dr. Cheng" To: "PDF" Subject: [PDF] Re: JavaScript Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:52:58 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF1CA5.8306B660" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF1CA5.8306B660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I found out that JavaScript can actually do alot with Acrobat. I tried out some scripts found on the sites & they have helped me alot. I actually don't even know how to write a JavaScript, I purely copy & = paste to use them. So I have some questions, 1) Is there anyway where I can use JavaScript to clear the buffer in = the Search Dialog box? You see, when you type something in the search = dialog box to search, the 2nd time you bring up the search dialog box = again. The previous word remains. I do not want that to happen. 2) Is there any scripts that I can use to load & unload indexes = automatically instead of using the manual one provided by Acrobat? 3) Is there any way to set Acrobat to have only one file open in no = matter whatever case. I want it set in a PDF file, checking to be done = in the PDF file instead of using preference setting by Acrobat? By the way, is there anywhere other than the codecuts in planetpdf that = I can find Javascript that I can use in Acrobat? Pls help. Pls reply asap. Thanx!! SanD ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF1CA5.8306B660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!
 
I found out that JavaScript can actually do alot = with=20 Acrobat.
I tried out some scripts found on the sites & = they have=20 helped me alot.
I actually don't even know how to write a = JavaScript, I purely=20 copy & paste to use them.
 
So I have some questions,
 
1)    Is there anyway where I can use = JavaScript to clear the buffer in the Search Dialog box?  You see, = when you=20 type something in the search dialog box to search, the 2nd time you = bring up the=20 search dialog box again. The previous word remains.  I do not want = that to=20 happen.
 
2)    Is  there any scripts that = I can use=20 to load & unload indexes automatically instead of using = the manual=20 one provided by Acrobat?
 
3)    Is there any way to set Acrobat = to have=20 only one file open in no matter whatever case.  I want it set in a = PDF=20 file, checking to be done in the PDF file instead of using preference = setting by=20 Acrobat?
 
By the way, is there anywhere other than the = codecuts in=20 planetpdf that I can find Javascript that I can use in = Acrobat?
 
Pls help.
Pls reply asap.
 
Thanx!!
 
SanD
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF1CA5.8306B660-- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 11:38:48-GMT,4204;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00293 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 05:38:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16083; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:27:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:22:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15757; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3810486E.D628E3A7@esrin.esa.it> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:20:14 +0200 From: Jurgen Scholz Organization: European Space Agency (ESA) - ESRIN ADM-IM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Byteserving of PDF files behind a cgi-bin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a few technical questions regarding byteserving of PDF files by a cgi-bin application, and I hope there is somebody out there who can give some advice! We use Apache web servers (1.3.6 to be exact) which are already byteserving-enabled, and as a matter of fact it works fine when one downloads an optimized PDF file. Unfortunately, we do have some problems with our document management system (an in-house development) - the same file would be downloaded entirely before it is displayed by the plu-in. Following a suggestion I found in the developer's forum, I had a look to the httpd's log, where I found the following: .... [22/Oct/1999:09:59:46 +0200] "GET /Acrohelp.pdf HTTP/1.0" 206 37240 [22/Oct/1999:09:59:46 +0200] "GET /Acrohelp.pdf HTTP/1.0" 206 37142 [22/Oct/1999:09:59:47 +0200] "GET /Acrohelp.pdf HTTP/1.0" 206 37209 ... [22/Oct/1999:10:04:16 +0200] "GET /cgi-bin/i2test?RT=DL&RI=1&RF=NT&PE=1&PA=i2frameid&RS=444f4337fe03f81b HTTP/1. 0" 200 5803968 The first requests are those that download the file "page by page" in fragments; the last request, instead, is the one of the document management system for exactly the same file. Without going into the technical details and principles, the attached file (including name and type) is "hidden" (on purpose) behind the cgi application. In the moment that the MIME type is transferred, the browser known that a PDF file is transmitted; as a matter of fact, the file is transferred and the plug-in started (note - this happens in a frame of the browser) Now to my technical questions: 1. Is my understanding correct that it is the browser plug-in that issues the GET "fragement" requests to the httpd ? 2. If this is the case, how does the browser respectively the plug-in "know" that a PDf file is requested ? From the extension or from the MIME type ? 3. I am sure that we are not the first ones to step over this type of problem. How do other systems solve this problem ? I.e., how do I tell the browser/plug-in that the file referred to in the GET operation is a PDF file, which shall be requested in fragments ? Thanks for your help already now! Jurgen Scholz -- Juergen Scholz EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY ESRIN ADM-IMP Phone: +39-06-94180-434 Fax: +39-06-94180-432 Mobile:+39-348-33 32 260 via Galileo Galilei I-00044 Frascati(RM) E-Mail: Jurgen.Scholz@esrin.esa.it Internet: jurgen@esrin.esa.it *** DISCLAIMER: Opinions expressed might not be those of the European Space Agency. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 11:51:36-GMT,3444;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00541 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 05:51:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17521; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:45:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:43:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17388; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:43:57 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving of PDF files behind a cgi-bin Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:42:42 +0100 Message-ID: <002101bf1c82$8d9f0b40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3810486E.D628E3A7@esrin.esa.it> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a few technical questions regarding byteserving of PDF > files by a > cgi-bin application, and I > hope there is somebody out there who can give some advice! Byteserving dynamically generated PDF files is a challenge. You may be expecting the server to take care of it for you; it won't. Byteserving works like this. 1. The server returns as part its initial response, a willingness to byte serve. 2. Acrobat may detect this and use byte serving to load selected ranges of the file. 3. Each byte range request is a completely fresh URL request, with no connection to the other ones, which MUST be satisfied by returning only the ranges requested from the file requested. Clearly, this is at odds with the model of a script generating data dynamically. The script would somehow have to cache the file and deliver pieces of the cached file when it realises the request belongs to the same original (not always simple). However, if you are using the CGI simply to hide the file, and are delivering a pre-existing file, things may be much simplified. You can use the byteserve.pl script from Adobe as your starting point. It actually does all the byteserving, you just have to do the file look-up. I don't know how well (if at all) this works with POST method CGIs, since the data will have been posted with the first request, and is unlikely to be posted again. You may need to detect this case somehow (caching state?) To complicate matters further, IE may issue up to three requests for the same PDF data EVEN IF it is not byteserved. It is as well to be sure that you do not expensively generate the data each time. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 12:05:34-GMT,1937;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00830 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:05:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18784; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:59:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:58:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18639; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:58:00 -0500 Message-ID: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C30297DD@NTSERVER1> From: Neil Swallow To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Quark Spreads Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:55:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a problem when printing from Quark 4 and then distilling the resulting postscript file. If I print the Quark document as a single page everything is fine but if I try and print a spread turning spreads on in the page setup most of the text in the left hand page is missing. I am using PS printer 8.3 and Acrobat 3 for Unix (on a sun server). Cheers Neil __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 12:47:51-GMT,3040;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01720 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:47:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22608; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:39:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:37:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22361; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:37:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:41:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark Spreads From: "dan still" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1271526684-434825@bennettgraphics.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Just a simple suggestion that you have probably already tried. Make sure you have allowed enough page with and heigth to allow for the double pages together. 8.5 x 11 in spreads will be 11 x 17 (+ one inch if printing register marks) You did not say that you were using PDF writer, if you are you will need to change the settings in the page setup paticular for the writter. You may want to upgrade to AdobePS 8.6 ---------- >From: Neil Swallow >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: [PDF] Quark Spreads >Date: Fri, Oct 22, 1999, 7:55 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I have a problem when printing from Quark 4 and then distilling the > resulting postscript file. If I print the Quark document as a single page > everything is fine but if I try and print a spread turning spreads on in the > page setup most of the text in the left hand page is missing. I am using PS > printer 8.3 and Acrobat 3 for Unix (on a sun server). > > Cheers Neil > > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ > <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> > -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 13:15:53-GMT,3267;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02479 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:15:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25418; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:08:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:07:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25300; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:07:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199910221307.IAA25295@everglades.binc.net> Date: 22 Oct 99 09:07:46 -0500 From: Roberta Pavol Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark Spreads To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA25296 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: [PDF] Quark Spreads In Quark 4, check your setup tab on your print screen. Printer description should be Acrobat Distiller, Paper size in your case is probably custom. Then as your earlier reply said, set the paper width to be as wide as your spread size, if you have 2 8 1/2 inch pages side by side, your paper width will be 17 inches, wider if you need registration marks. Also don't use PDFWriter. Here is a good reference PDF file on the web for creating PDF files from Quark 4 http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague/_pdfresources/QUARK4_MAC.all.pdf Hope that helps. Roberta >> I have a problem when printing from Quark 4 and then distilling the >> resulting postscript file. If I print the Quark document as a single page >> everything is fine but if I try and print a spread turning spreads on in the >> page setup most of the text in the left hand page is missing. I am using PS >> printer 8.3 and Acrobat 3 for Unix (on a sun server). >> >> Cheers Neil >> >> >> __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ >> <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> >> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >__________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ > <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> >-<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 14:00:45-GMT,2122;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03561 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30051; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:52:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:49:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29648; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:49:28 -0500 Message-ID: <38106997.2F488605@nfld.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:11:44 -0230 From: Pia KP Organization: Designer Mice - a division of D.G.Taylor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Colorspace error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, We have generated a pdf file which when viewed in acrobat reader 3 says that the colorspace Cs9 is missing (sorry I forgot the exact phrasing.) Now we have printed this pdf file using systems other than our own and I am not sure which version of Acrobat Reader was used. However the pdf file was generated using Acrobat 4 and distiller. Any ideas as to what happened and how I can avaid this in the future? Thanks Pia Pehtla Designer MICE http://www.netfx.ca/designermice __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 14:34:00-GMT,1937;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04393 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:33:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32751; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:19:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:15:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32299; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:15:07 -0500 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:20:12 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] Using Flash files In-Reply-To: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C30297DD@NTSERVER1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991022141543Z28689-268+4191@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, a while back I read that you could use flash files with QT4. Is it possible to use these files within a pdf and keep its interactivity? If so, how would one go about doing this and is there any documentation on this area? Thanks, Kevin Chu __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 14:43:19-GMT,2026;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04666 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01823; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:34:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:33:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01659; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:33:12 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] textfield custom format Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:38:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000701bf1c9b$21cec1d0$de139fc1@nt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Sender: 320040587562-0001@t-dialin.net From: Jan.Hillmer@t-online.de (Jeberien Consulting GmbH) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is from a forms beginner. 1.How can I format a textfield to accept exact the quantity of digits I would like to have. 2. If I have a form with multiple fields and the user fill in one of them all other field should be blocked thanks __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 14:48:09-GMT,2332;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04762 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:48:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02263; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:38:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:37:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02121; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:37:49 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Colorspace error Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:36:33 +0100 Message-ID: <002701bf1c9a$d72f3600$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38106997.2F488605@nfld.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Hi, > We have generated a pdf file which when viewed in acrobat > reader 3 says that the colorspace Cs9 is > missing (sorry I forgot the exact phrasing.) Now we have > printed this pdf file using systems other > than our own and I am not sure which version of Acrobat > Reader was used. However the pdf file was > generated using Acrobat 4 and distiller. That is why...you have used Distiller 4, and not selected "3.0 compatible". Apparently, you should also be sure that you select "colors...unchanged" to be sure Acrobat 3 can read files. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 14:48:38-GMT,2198;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04783 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:48:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02730; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:42:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:40:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02458; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:40:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991022141543Z28689-268+4191@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> References: <19991022141543Z28689-268+4191@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:40:13 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Flash files Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Hi, a while back I read that you could use flash files with QT4. Is it >possible to use these files within a pdf and keep its interactivity? If >so, how would one go about doing this and is there any documentation on >this area? > >Thanks, > >Kevin Chu Yes and yes. Check out "Create Interactive PDFs with QuickTime 4 & Flash" http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/tips/tip0037.html ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 14:53:33-GMT,2150;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04912 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:53:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03353; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:45:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:44:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03236; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:44:43 -0500 X-Sender: quartet@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:47:17 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: quartet@wanadoo.fr (Eric Wannin) Subject: [PDF] Display time managed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, Is somebody knows a tool or a plug-in which allows the display of PDF files with a time management. E.G : a 45 pages PDF document is viewed by a user. The user stop at page 27. If the document is not activated during 10 minutes, Reader or Viewer must automatically displays page 1 of the document. Thank you ================================= Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager Quartet Systems Saint Veran 84220 Goult France Tel : 33 (0)4 90 72 48 48 Fax : 33 (0)4 90 72 42 80 E.mail : contact@quartet.fr Web : http://www.quartet.fr ================================= __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 15:43:38-GMT,3619;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06358 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:43:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09246; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:36:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:34:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08929; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:34:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:34:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Display time managed From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991022153223.HABB28247.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Eric, You should be able to do this with Javascript. Nice idea by the way, mind if I use it? Hopefully Kas will reply to you concerning your question as well, he seems to have jumped ahead in certain areas... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- >From: quartet@wanadoo.fr (Eric Wannin) >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Display time managed >Date: Fri, Oct 22, 1999, 10:47 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hello, > > Is somebody knows a tool or a plug-in which allows the display of PDF files > with a time management. > E.G : a 45 pages PDF document is viewed by a user. The user stop at page > 27. If the document is not activated during 10 minutes, Reader or Viewer > must automatically displays page 1 of the document. > > Thank you > > ================================= > Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager > Quartet Systems > Saint Veran > 84220 Goult > France > Tel : 33 (0)4 90 72 48 48 > Fax : 33 (0)4 90 72 42 80 > E.mail : contact@quartet.fr > Web : http://www.quartet.fr > ================================= > > > > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ > <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> > -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 15:43:40-GMT,2598;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06363 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:43:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09091; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:35:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:32:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08577; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:32:04 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:32:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] textfield custom format From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991022153014.GYYQ28247.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jan, > 1.How can I format a textfield to accept exact the quantity of digits I > would like to have. When you create the form field (text) set multiline and set limited number of characters, and the number ou want to accept. > 2. If I have a form with multiple fields and the user fill in one of them > all other field should be blocked > I don't quite understand what you are lookin g for here... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 15:59:08-GMT,1996;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06858 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:59:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10705; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:47:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:44:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10349; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:44:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3810849F.6B6B85CA@nfld.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:07:03 -0230 From: Pia KP Organization: Designer Mice - a division of D.G.Taylor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Colorspace error References: <002701bf1c9a$d72f3600$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Okay, thanks -- i shall fix that right away. Many thanks. Pia KP Aandi Inston wrote: > That is why...you have used Distiller 4, and not selected > "3.0 compatible". Apparently, you should also be sure that > you select "colors...unchanged" to be sure Acrobat 3 can > read files. > > Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 16:13:26-GMT,2141;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07236 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:13:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12867; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:06:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:04:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12626; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:04:48 -0500 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:09:44 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] Using Flash files in pdf's on the web In-Reply-To: References: <19991022141543Z28689-268+4191@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> <19991022141543Z28689-268+4191@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991022160516Z30735-266+4312@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks Steve for the flash/pdf info. I got the flash file working, however does it work on the web? We are testing it out now and whenever we click the movie link it cannot find the mov file. All the files are in the same directory. Am I doing something wrong or is it just not possible to use flash+PDF's on the web? __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 16:15:19-GMT,2375;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07257 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:15:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13140; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:08:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:07:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12994; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:07:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:06:06 -0400 From: Matthew Snow To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] please remove my name Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please remove my name from your mail list. Thanks, Matt Snow __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 16:32:25-GMT,2570;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07748 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15319; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:26:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:25:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15213; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:25:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991022160516Z30735-266+4312@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> References: <19991022141543Z28689-268+4191@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> <19991022141543Z28689-268+4191@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> <19991022160516Z30735-266+4312@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:25:32 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Flash files in pdf's on the web Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Thanks Steve for the flash/pdf info. > >I got the flash file working, however does it work on the web? We are >testing it out now and whenever we click the movie link it cannot find the >mov file. All the files are in the same directory. Am I doing something >wrong or is it just not possible to use flash+PDF's on the web? This is something that I ran into also. Not getting the MOV file to load in the PDF while viewing it in a browser online, even when the files are in the same directory. I haven't found the answer yet, but I'm still looking. Keep me informed if you find out how to get it to work "online." ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 16:34:14-GMT,2582;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07802 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:34:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15609; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:28:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:27:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15415; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:27:25 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:27:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Flash files in pdf's on the web From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991022162528.IIMS28247.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kevin, The movie file must be on the server, and the link must acknowledge this... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > I got the flash file working, however does it work on the web? We are > testing it out now and whenever we click the movie link it cannot find the > mov file. All the files are in the same directory. Am I doing something > wrong or is it just not possible to use flash+PDF's on the web? __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 17:22:44-GMT,1976;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09143 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:22:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20897; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:14:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:12:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20537; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:12:17 -0500 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:17:11 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Flash files in pdf's on the web In-Reply-To: <19991022162528.IIMS28247.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218 .247]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991022171242Z31005-268+4435@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jason, the movie file is on the server. It is in the same directory as the pdf and the swf file. How can I check to see if the link acknowledges this? >Kevin, > >The movie file must be on the server, and the link must acknowledge this... > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 19:34:01-GMT,2376;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13443 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:34:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAB01193; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:17:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:15:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00952; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:15:19 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991022121609.00bba4c0@mail-345> X-Sender: dsites@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:20:22 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dick Sites Subject: Re: [PDF] Rotated PDF Pages In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 08:25 AM 10/19/99 -0500, you wrote: >After I distill this simple file, the page is rotated from portrait to >landscape. Yes, I know I can rotate it back in Acrobat, but I swear I >read (somewhere) about a setting that would tell the system NOT to rotate >the page. I can't remember if it was in Distiller or in Frame. > >I'm using Acrobat 4.0 (compatible with 3.0) and FrameMaker 5.5.3 on a >Novel LAN, Windows 95. Thanks in advance. Open Distiller. Hit Help > Distiller Parameters Guide. Search (ctrl-F, binoculars button, etc.) for "rotate" and read about /AutoRotate /None. I don't find any UI that matches this in the Settings >Job Options dialogue, but perhaps there is; I'm not an expert in this area. /dick __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 19:34:30-GMT,2707;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13463 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:34:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02140; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:25:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:24:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02021; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:23:59 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:23:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Flash files in pdf's on the web From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991022192210.MAUN28247.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kevin, When you selected the movie, was it on the server? Acrobat is always looking for GotoR for web links, not Goto which is for the hardrive or within a file. Basically when you first selected the movie, did you get it from the server over the web, or off your hardrive? If off the hardrive, it'll always look for that file in the place. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- the movie file is on the server. It is in the same directory as > the pdf and the swf file. How can I check to see if the link acknowledges > this? > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 21:49:48-GMT,2434;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16944 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:49:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14767; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:42:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:39:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14474; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:39:44 -0500 Message-ID: <30724FF712DFD2119E6200104B24489293CBBB@mail1> From: Robin Clark To: Framers@FrameUsers.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Want to Use Acrobat 3 and Acrobat 4 on Same PC Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:35:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Apologies in advance for the x-post ... Basically, I want to use Acrobat 3 (4.2.6 PPD) and Acrobat 4 (4.3.1 PPD) on the same PC. I recall a couple previous posts on either list discussing whether this configuration were possible; I think someone said it was not possible (irrevocable issues due to shared files) while someone else provided hope. Unfortunately, I was unable to exhume these posts from the lists' archives. Thus ... How do I make my dream come true? Obvious background statements: I had Acrobat 3.x etc. installed and working happily. I installed 4 in a separate folder/directory in the same partition of my hard drive. I also installed the 4.3 PPD as a unique printer in the usual Windows printers folder (I have yet to upgrade to 4.3.1 but that is the future plan). The OS is Win95. Thanks! R __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 22:29:24-GMT,3111;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18007 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:29:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18757; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:22:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:20:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18492; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:20:57 -0500 From: michael@sos.com.au (Michael Schulz) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark Spreads Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 08:30:31 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C30297DD@NTSERVER1> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I think I remember we had a similar problem of strange clipping of text and pictures on one side of spreads, but we only had that when we let Quark rotate the spread, not when we sent the spread portrait (to a paper size like A3wideExtra). Are you rotating? Michael SOS Printing Sydney -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Neil Swallow Sent: Friday, 22 October 1999 21:56 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Quark Spreads The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a problem when printing from Quark 4 and then distilling the resulting postscript file. If I print the Quark document as a single page everything is fine but if I try and print a spread turning spreads on in the page setup most of the text in the left hand page is missing. I am using PS printer 8.3 and Acrobat 3 for Unix (on a sun server). Cheers Neil __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 22:39:23-GMT,2667;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18221 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:39:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19823; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:33:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:32:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19708; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:32:42 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:31:21 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Colorspace error Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA19704 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Hi, >We have generated a pdf file which when viewed in acrobat reader 3 says that the colorspace Cs9 is missing (sorry I forgot the exact phrasing.) Now we have printed this pdf file using systems other than our own and I am not sure which version of Acrobat Reader was used. However the pdf file was generated using Acrobat 4 and distiller. > >Any ideas as to what happened and how I can avaid this in the future? > >Thanks >Pia Pehtla Hi, I'm certainly no PDF expert, but I've been able to fix these sorts of problems by re-distilling the file. Namely: Export the document as a postscript file. Make sure that your distiller's job options set the page size to exactly the same size the document, and that your other distiller settings are as you usually use 'em. Then redistill the Postscript fole you created. Despite the "universality" of PDF, I find that PDFs often pick up some very site-specific information that doesn't work for everyone. Best 'o luck, Jeff Sauber __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 22:47:05-GMT,2271;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18372 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:47:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20515; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:41:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:40:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20348; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:40:21 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Want to Use Acrobat 3 and Acrobat 4 on Same PC Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:39:01 +0100 Message-ID: <003401bf1cde$3da05b60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <30724FF712DFD2119E6200104B24489293CBBB@mail1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Basically, I want to use Acrobat 3 (4.2.6 PPD) and Acrobat 4 > (4.3.1 PPD) on > the same PC. You can have Acrobat 3 and 4 on the same PC and active, though not at the same time. Exchange and Distiller are fine. There can be only one PDFWriter, and only one AdobePS, so you definitely cannot have AdobePS 4.2.6 and AdobePS 4.3.1 coexisting. But there can be distinct drivers for the two. However, 4.3.1 is not a good idea for Acrobat 3. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Oct-1999 23:29:49-GMT,1888;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19365 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:29:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24168; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:24:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:22:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23975; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:22:40 -0500 Message-ID: <30724FF712DFD2119E6200104B24489293CBE9@mail1> From: Robin Clark To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Want to Use Acrobat 3 and Acrobat 4 on Same PC Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:18:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi, Thanks for the quick response! >you definitely cannot have AdobePS 4.2.6 and AdobePS 4.3.1 >coexisting. But there can be distinct drivers for the two. IOW, one PPD for 2 Distillers? >However, 4.3.1 is not a good idea for Acrobat 3. Yeah. Neither was 4.3, yes? Thanks again, R __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Oct-1999 8:39:21-GMT,2345;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00370 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA30923; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:34:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:28:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA30460; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:28:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Want to Use Acrobat 3 and Acrobat 4 on Same PC Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 09:26:55 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01bf1d30$5e20b220$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <30724FF712DFD2119E6200104B24489293CBE9@mail1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >you definitely cannot have AdobePS 4.2.6 and AdobePS 4.3.1 > >coexisting. But there can be distinct drivers for the two. > > IOW, one PPD for 2 Distillers? You can have many PPDs but only one driver. This will show up as many printers in the printers control panel but will ultimately share code. > > >However, 4.3.1 is not a good idea for Acrobat 3. > > Yeah. Neither was 4.3, yes? Well, I know 4.3 wasn't. I don't know if 4.3.1 fixed the problem (or even if it can be fixed if it is a Distiller 3.x bug). Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Oct-1999 12:15:08-GMT,2803;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04031 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 06:15:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12318; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:07:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:04:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12089; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:04:36 -0500 Message-ID: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C30297E0@NTSERVER1> From: Neil Swallow To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark Spreads Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:02:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am not doing any rotate and as far as I can see I am doing everything the same as suggested in Rich Sprague's excellent Quark 4 guide, except that I have spreads turned on and I am using an older PS printer. I think it's time to download the latest printers Cheers Neil -----Original Message----- From: michael@sos.com.au [SMTP:michael@sos.com.au] Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 11:31 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark Spreads The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ I am not doing any rotate and as far as I can see I am doing everything the same as suggested in Rich Spragues excellent Quark 4 guide, except that I have spreads turned on and I am using an older PS printer.I think it's time to download the latest printers Cheers Neil __________________________________________________________________ I think I remember we had a similar problem of strange clipping of text and pictures on one side of spreads, but we only had that when we let Quark rotate the spread, not when we sent the spread portrait (to a paper size like A3wideExtra). Are you rotating? Michael SOS Printing Sydney __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Oct-1999 16:20:08-GMT,1940;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01786 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 10:20:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31003; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:13:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:09:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30558; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:09:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:14:15 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] FYI> ATM for Mac OS 9 now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ For those eager to purchase and install Mac OS9, which is being released today, there's a new version of ATM available for download at: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/atm/mac/4.x/ file = atm452os9.sit.hqx 2.6 MB NOTE: You must have MacOS 9 installed. rgds ~ Kurt ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Oct-1999 16:57:04-GMT,2598;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02457 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 10:57:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01079; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:50:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:48:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00989; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:48:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3811E440.6F77F632@nfld.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:07:20 -0230 From: Pia KP Organization: Designer Mice - a division of D.G.Taylor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Colorspace error References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks, I had to redistill. I followed Aandi's advice about selecting 'colours and unchanged' and that did the trick.. The file did load previously but the colours were solid instead of a gradient. This time it worked > Apparently, you should also be sure that > you select "colors...unchanged" to be sure Acrobat 3 can > read files. > Jeff Sauber wrote: > Hi, I'm certainly no PDF expert, but I've been able to fix these sorts of problems by re-distilling the file. Namely: Export the document as a postscript file. Make sure that your distiller's job options set the page size to exactly the same size the document, and that your other distiller settings are as you usually use 'em. Then redistill the Postscript fole you created. > > Despite the "universality" of PDF, I find that PDFs often pick up some very site-specific information that doesn't work for everyone. > > Best 'o luck, > Jeff Sauber __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Oct-1999 20:24:08-GMT,2302;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06470 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:24:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17000; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:18:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:16:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16750; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:16:39 -0500 Message-ID: <381215D4.5EF22874@nfld.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:38:53 -0230 From: Pia KP Organization: Designer Mice - a division of D.G.Taylor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf-zone Subject: [PDF] Lost tools?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I had something rather strange happen this weekend. I lost some of the new tools that Acobat 4 uses. I still have the basic ones that Acrobat 3 used and I must admit that the screen looks a lot like version 3 BUT I deleted version three before installing 4. Is there any way to get these tools back again (without reinstalling)? The only thing that I did recently was install norton Winfax 9 which did mess up allot of things until my partner removed a strain item from the system tray. -- That couldn't have caused it could it?? Anyway I need to get these tools back again. Thanks -- Pia Pehtla Designer MICE http://www.netfx.ca/designermice __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Oct-1999 20:24:09-GMT,2348;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06473 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:24:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17002; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:18:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:16:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16724; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:16:25 -0500 Message-ID: <381215C1.CFC68CAE@nfld.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:38:34 -0230 From: Pia KP Organization: Designer Mice - a division of D.G.Taylor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf-zone Subject: [PDF] Lost tools?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I had something rather strange happen this weekend. I lost some of the new tools that Acobat 4 uses. I still have the basic ones that Acrobat 3 used and I must admit that the screen looks a lot like version 3 BUT I deleted version three before installing 4. Is there any way to get these tools back again (without reinstalling)? The only thing that I did recently was install norton Winfax 9 which did mess up allot of things until my partner removed a strain item from the system tray. -- That couldn't have caused it could it?? Anyway I need to get these tools back again. Thanks -- Pia Pehtla Designer MICE http://www.netfx.ca/designermice - 709-834-2461 - tel. - 709-834-7518 - fax. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Oct-1999 20:24:09-GMT,2348;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06474 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:24:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17001; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:18:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:16:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16675; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:16:08 -0500 Message-ID: <381215B3.68EAF103@nfld.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:38:19 -0230 From: Pia KP Organization: Designer Mice - a division of D.G.Taylor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf-zone Subject: [PDF] Lost tools?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I had something rather strange happen this weekend. I lost some of the new tools that Acobat 4 uses. I still have the basic ones that Acrobat 3 used and I must admit that the screen looks a lot like version 3 BUT I deleted version three before installing 4. Is there any way to get these tools back again (without reinstalling)? The only thing that I did recently was install norton Windex 9 which did mess up allot of things until my partner removed a strain item from the system tray. -- That couldn't have caused it could it?? Anyway I need to get these tools back again. Thanks -- Pia Pehtla Designer MICE http://www.netfx.ca/designermice - 709-834-2461 - tel. - 709-834-7518 - fax. __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Oct-1999 20:31:52-GMT,1757;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06634 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:31:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18295; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:27:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:26:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18163; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:26:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3812182C.9E29EB81@nfld.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:48:53 -0230 From: Pia KP Organization: Designer Mice - a division of D.G.Taylor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Lost tools?? References: <381215D4.5EF22874@nfld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry about the triplicate send -- my fault - asleep on the job. Pia KP __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Oct-1999 21:21:19-GMT,2825;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07556 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 15:21:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22685; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:14:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:13:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22571; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:13:21 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Lost tools?? Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:11:51 +0100 Message-ID: <004101bf1d9b$3b348fa0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <381215B3.68EAF103@nfld.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I had something rather strange happen this weekend. I lost > some of the new tools that Acobat 4 > uses. I still have the basic ones that Acrobat 3 used and I > must admit that the screen looks a lot > like version 3 BUT I deleted version three before installing > 4. Is there any way to get these > tools back again (without reinstalling)? Try rebooting, and restarting Acrobat. Acrobat will lose many of its tools if certain keys are pressed, or seem to be pressed, while starting. If not... Check it really isn't version 3 by doing Help > About. Perhaps something reinstalled it... > The only thing that I did recently was install norton > Windex 9 which did mess up allot of things until my partner > removed a strain item from the system > tray. -- That couldn't have caused it could it?? CleanSweep, from QuarterDeck, would stop certain parts of Photoshop from working. So I would be at least suspicious of this new utility. Uninstall it to find out. You might try reinstalling Acrobat first. It shouldn't take too long. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Oct-1999 15:29:47-GMT,4097;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27061 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 09:29:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01183; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:16:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:10:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32660; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:09:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199910241509.IAA26167@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 08:09:44 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] Gadget From: "Rich Sprague" To: ctp-q@ctpp.com CC: Dov Isaacs , Kurt Foss , Stephen Beals , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: Stephen Beals > I was appalled to find that Apple's system font "Gadget" is one that > Acrobat 4.0 distiller will not render. I'm sure there are others. How > can Adobe develop a > universal cross platform printing agent like PDF and then make it > impossible to actually use the fonts that come licensed with your > computer? One would think with the Apple/Adobe alliance that at the very > least Apple's system fonts could be rendered by Acrobat! We're supposed > to know what we're doing and have no idea what to tell a client when a > font they are licensed to use won't print to PDF. Seems like a huge fly > in the ointment that needs to be removed immediately. We ought to make > sure that at least the system fonts that come on Macs and PC's could be > rendered by Acrobat. To do less would certainly lead to chaos. I am responding to you again, on a subject that has been very near to my heart, and very heavy on my mind and my pocketbook recently. I tested the font *Gadget* and here's what I found: 1* Using Font Lab 3 I learned that everything was allowed; that is installing, embedding, etc. 2* Using Macromedia's Fontographer, I didn't learn anything since the fsType codes are hidden, unless overridden. 3* I was able to embed and subset this font using Distiller 4. 4* Now this is brand new to me...using the much-maligned PDFWriter, it converted the font to paths!!! This is the first time I have *ever* seen this happen. 5* The PDFWriter is supposed to be able to tell one whether a font can be embedded or not. The PDFWriter didn't even recognize this font. Darn. If you want to scream, you ought to shout about why Apple's Chicago can't be embedded. It can't be that they're worried that someone is going to steal and sell this font. Certainly Mr. Gates isn't thinking about pirating it for Windowsxthousand. You're absolutely right...about chaos...we're already there. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Oct-1999 17:07:48-GMT,4201;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28871 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:07:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16044; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:54:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:50:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15236; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:50:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3813394F.1C0ED573@home.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:52:32 -0400 From: Jill Sangster Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Simpler Form submission wanted X-Priority: 1 (Highest) References: <199910182257.RAA02067@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------72A94F32E46B019DF0B8163D" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --------------72A94F32E46B019DF0B8163D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a direct quote from a previous query.... My problem/question is identical. Has anyone replied with a solution? "Does anybody know of a solution to get form data submitted as an email. The PDF file contains a number of form fields which are to be completed and the data submitted back in a simple one-click operation. The standard Submit option in Acrobat requires that the user has live contact to a web site. The Export Form Data option produces a file on the local computer which prompts for a save name and location (also requires and users to have the full version, not Reader). The emailing of this FDF file, as an attachment, is then a separate action. I am looking for a solution which offers remote users the simplicity of the one-click Submit option from a PDF (front end), to a non-CGI database (back end) as either raw database-ready text data, or in FDF format for direct inclusion into a PDF." All suggestions welcome. Need a solution a.s.a.p. Project due this week. Jill Sangster --------------72A94F32E46B019DF0B8163D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a direct quote from a previous query....  My problem/question is identical. Has anyone replied with a solution?

"Does anybody know of a solution to get form data submitted as an email. The PDF file contains a number of form fields which are to be completed and the data submitted back in a simple one-click operation.

The standard Submit option in Acrobat requires that the user has live contact to a web site. The Export Form Data option produces a file on the local computer which prompts for a save name and location (also requires
and users to have the full version, not Reader). The emailing of this FDF file, as an attachment, is then a separate action.

I am looking for a solution which offers remote users the simplicity of the one-click Submit option from a PDF (front end), to a non-CGI database (back end) as either raw database-ready text data, or in FDF format for
direct inclusion into a PDF."

All suggestions welcome. Need a solution a.s.a.p. Project due this week.

Jill Sangster
 
  --------------72A94F32E46B019DF0B8163D-- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Oct-1999 19:21:27-GMT,3232;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01394 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:21:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03643; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:10:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:07:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03195; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:07:27 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3813394F.1C0ED573@home.com> References: <199910182257.RAA02067@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:01:33 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Simpler Form submission wanted Cc: Jill Sangster Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jill, There are some possibilities for direct database access. However, there is nothing available right now which works on plain vanilla Acrobat Reader. If your users have Acrobat 4, formerly known as Exchange, you can use the mailForm Doc Object method. Other possibilities might be available from Cardiff Software (http://www.cardiff.com), or maybe from some other vendors, you might find on PDFZone.com or PlanetPDF. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >"Does anybody know of a solution to get form data submitted as an email. >The PDF file contains a number of form fields which are to be completed >and the data submitted back in a simple one-click operation. > >The standard Submit option in Acrobat requires that the user has live >contact to a web site. The Export Form Data option produces a file on the >local computer which prompts for a save name and location (also requires >and users to have the full version, not Reader). The emailing of this FDF >file, as an attachment, is then a separate action. > >I am looking for a solution which offers remote users the simplicity of >the one-click Submit option from a PDF (front end), to a non-CGI database >(back end) as either raw database-ready text data, or in FDF format for >direct inclusion into a PDF." > __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 14:35:00-GMT,2164;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23985 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:34:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15301; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:27:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:24:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14710; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:24:05 -0500 From: John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:22:41 -0400 Message-ID: <001D2F53.C22094@am.pnu.com> Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDF-Basics] Screen Shots To: "PDF Discussion List" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 20:51:30 -0500, "Chris Farr" wrote: "I need your help. What is the best way to include screen shots in a pdf? Not only do I want it to look good on the screen, but I will need a nice-looking print-out from PDF (and MS Word too). "Any help appreciated!" Chris, check out a message I posted earlier: http://www.pdfzone.org/resources/lists/pdf/199909/msg00573.html It covers the basics you need as a starting point. --John E. Stuurwold Information Scientist Pharmacia & Upjohn Animal Health __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 15:52:14-GMT,4682;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26313 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:52:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27259; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:41:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:38:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26748; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:38:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:37:25 -0400 From: Matthew Snow To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] please remove my name Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Matt Snow Webmaster Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles http://www.state.ma.us/rmv/ 617.351.9755 >>> Matthew Snow 10/22/99 12:06PM >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please remove my name from your mail list. Thanks, Matt Snow __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ! __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 16:32:51-GMT,2030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27532 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:32:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02398; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:26:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:24:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02180; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:24:57 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991025123115.009895c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:31:15 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Lost tools?? In-Reply-To: <381215D4.5EF22874@nfld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >like version 3 BUT I deleted version three before installing 4. Is there any way to Deleted or uninstalled? Simply deleting stuff can make WinMesses; mustn't do that. ;-) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 19:03:27-GMT,2110;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02080 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:03:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28424; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:58:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:57:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28106; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:57:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3814A62A.CF104FCF@nfld.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:19:14 -0230 From: Pia KP Organization: Designer Mice - a division of D.G.Taylor, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Lost tools?? References: <3.0.5.32.19991025123115.009895c0@pop.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My error -- I should have said uninstalled. Acrobat 4 was working great up until Friday. Pia KP Steve Rindsberg wrote: > >like version 3 BUT I deleted version three before installing 4. Is there > any way to > > Deleted or uninstalled? > > Simply deleting stuff can make WinMesses; mustn't do that. ;-) > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 19:12:11-GMT,2974;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02350 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:12:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29811; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:06:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:05:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29585; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:05:17 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Indexing PDF files Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:03:37 +0100 Message-ID: <004e01bf1f1b$a5373520$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3814AF42.E72F82E5@qmaster.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I was asked to create an index for software documentation saved as > PDFs. These are book-length documents. I can successfully (or > apparently successfully) create the index (I see the *.pdx file in the > folder and the accompanying folders) but I don't see the advantage to > having an index. When I attempt a search using the indexed > file I don't > seem to see anything that is different from a search of an unindexed > file. What is the rationale behind indexing in Adobe Acrobat? The search is extremely quick, even for a collection of hundreds of documents, totalling thousands of pages. And it is cross-document. That's it. > > I think the client who wants the index really wants bookmarks (to be > able to go to portion of file that they click on from list of items). > Can anyone enlighten me? Many people use terminology wrong, but I'm not sure we can help you interpret what your client said...? As well as the two possibilities you've noted there is a third. The client may want additional pages with a conventional, book-like, index. This may also be a separate document. There is an index at the end of the Acrobat guide, and perhaps that is the inspiration. Aandi __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 19:18:35-GMT,6633;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02577 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:18:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31104; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:13:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:11:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30790; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:11:40 -0500 Message-ID: <004501bf1f1c$79df83e0$fab38dcf@grumpy2.curtech.com> From: "Steve Panish" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:09:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01BF1EFA.F2047960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BF1EFA.F2047960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Cynthia. The problem is one in the 3.02 viewer, and = non-postscript printer drivers. The images view poorly under 3.02, as = they are aliased...but they print OK on postscript printers. I haven't = used the 4.0 viewer but many list members say the viewed images will be = much better there. Steve Panish, Ph.D. email:scp@vrg.com CEO, Vision Research Graphics, Inc http://www.vrg.com 99A Madbury Rd. tel: = (603)868-2090 Durham, N.H. USA 03824 fax:(603)868-1352 -----Original Message----- From: Leslie, Cynthia To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 3:50 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs =20 =20 What version of Distiller are you using to create the PDFs, and = what version of Acrobat/Reader/Exchange are you using to view them? ... I been told by a couple of sources (whose names I've forgotten = now) that things should be much better with version 4.0. I haven't = confirmed this myself, though. - Cynthia Leslie =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BF1EFA.F2047960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Cynthia.  The problem is = one in the=20 3.02 viewer, and non-postscript printer drivers.  The images view = poorly=20 under 3.02, as they are aliased...but they print OK on postscript=20 printers.  I haven't used the 4.0 viewer but many list members say = the=20 viewed images will be much better there.

Steve Panish,=20 Ph.D.           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           =20 email:scp@vrg.com
CEO, = Vision Research=20 Graphics, = Inc           http://www.vrg.com
99A Madbury=20 Rd.           &nbs= p;            = ;            =    =20 tel: (603)868-2090
Durham, N.H. USA=20 03824           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;  =20 fax:(603)868-1352
 
 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Leslie, Cynthia <Cynthia.Leslie@compaq.com&g= t;
To:=20 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'=20 <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Date:=20 Thursday, October 21, 1999 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: [PDF] = image=20 quality and size problems from MSWord docs

 What version of Distiller are you using = to create=20 the PDFs, and what version of Acrobat/Reader/Exchange are you using = to view=20 them?

... I been told by a couple = of sources=20 (whose names I've forgotten now) that things should be much = better with version 4.0. I haven't confirmed = this myself,=20 though.

-=20 Cynthia Leslie

 

------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BF1EFA.F2047960-- __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 21:01:47-GMT,3382;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05643 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14045; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:56:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:53:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13839; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:53:38 -0500 Message-ID: <009301bf1f2a$dba3dd20$bbd5523e@portos> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Indexing PDF files Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:51:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I don't see the advantage to >having an index. When I attempt a search using the indexed file I don't >seem to see anything that is different from a search of an unindexed >file. What is the rationale behind indexing in Adobe Acrobat? >I think the client who wants the index really wants bookmarks (to be >able to go to portion of file that they click on from list of items). Sandra: As Aandi said, 'Search' through Index is cross documents. You can't do this with 'Find'. Besides, if you want, Acrobat will search in the Document Info Fields as well.(Author, Subject, Title & Keywords) When you use Find... Acrobat (like Word and many other software) runs across a document until it finds the first ocurrence of what you looked for (this might be a slow task for a thousand pages doc... try it and see). Then, it'll find the next... and the next...etc, until there's none ocurrences left (and only in current doc). With Search, we can say 'All' the ocurrences in the index (They're all toghether there) are found at once, and presented to you at once (Doc names containing them in a small window) letting you choose wich one fits better your needs. Bookmarks are a totally different thing. The're like elevator buttons. Want to go to seventh floor....they'll take you to seventh flor. In one step. Indexing and searching, is one of the most powerful features of Acrobat. Imagine one index for every subject in a library. As you can search in more of one index at a time, you could be searching a word, or a sentence, or whatever... in thousands of books at the same time. Hope this clarifyes a bit your point of view Carlos. los@ctv.es __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 21:32:19-GMT,3571;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06653 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:32:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17399; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:26:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:24:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17166; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:24:52 -0500 Message-ID: <005f01bf1f30$08d91940$0c46d6d1@ferguson> From: "Jerry W. Ferguson" To: References: <009301bf1f2a$dba3dd20$bbd5523e@portos> Subject: [PDF] re: distiller ps error Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:29:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jody, Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, I am not in a position to know what versions of Interleaf are being used. Our headquarters in Finland produces these documents and , well, what they think we need and what we actually need are two very different things. I am just trying to fill in the gaps. We have been provided Worldview docs for years and they are only recently providing ANY pdf's, just not everything we need. And, also, we have no access to the Interleaf publisher. I wish I did, it sure would save me alot of headaches. We are seeing another problem. We have certain documents that have a table with a very thin borderline around all of the cells. This displays perfectly onscreen, but the thin lines won't print. Any ideas? This information will be passed on. The individuals producing these cannot figure it out and I can't redo or test anything myself. Again, thanks for your response. Jerry Ferguson ----- Original Message ----- From: Jody R. Lorig To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 11:45 AM Subject: Distiller PS error > Jerry > > If you are using Interleaf 7, the publish function will take the raw Interleaf > file and create a finished PDF file. If you have the original file, this may be > easier than trying to create a PDF from the worldview files. > > I have used the publish function with a color printer driver and the resulting > file contains colored images, just like the original. If you would like to see > the result of a file converted from a raw Interleaf file, let me know, and I'll > send you a copy of an Interleaf file and the resulting PDF file so you can > compare the two. > > Mr. Jody Lorig > Publications Manager > Kavouras, a DTN company > JLorig@Kavouras.com > http://www.kavouras.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 22:34:23-GMT,2826;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08373 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:34:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22738; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:28:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:26:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22561; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:26:46 -0500 Message-ID: <027101bf1f37$ff3b4540$484801d8@tpsitulsa.com> From: "Fadel F. Iskander" To: References: <009301bf1f2a$dba3dd20$bbd5523e@portos> Subject: Re: [PDF] Indexing PDF files Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:26:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello all, We create on a regular basis indexed PDF file(s). We search them using reader 4.0 with a plug-in. Everything works fine. The files we create are anywhere from 2000 pages to 200,000 pages. The search is fast, and once a hit is made, double clicking the "hit" displays the page immediately. We would like to add another functionality. These PDF files are financial statements. We would like to have a user get to the file through some kind of a front end process, and allow him/her to display only the hits which would have been made by giving an account number and a PIN. Can this be done? How? Thank you so much in advance. Fadel F. Iskander, Ph.D. Vice President TPSi fadel@tpsitulsa.com snip > When you use Find... Acrobat (like Word and many other software) runs across > a document until it finds the first ocurrence of what you looked for (this > might be a slow task for a thousand pages doc... try it and see). Then, > it'll find the next... and the next...etc, until there's none ocurrences > left (and only in current doc) ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 22:48:03-GMT,2512;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08746 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:48:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24496; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:43:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:41:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24212; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:41:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: p0071549@csmail.brookes.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199910251822.NAA22155@everglades.binc.net> References: <199910251822.NAA22155@everglades.binc.net> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:42:08 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Chris Jennings Subject: [PDF] Too few operands Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Help needed: I am getting the following errors from time to time in both the Reader 4.0 and Acrobat 4.0 on the MAC: Sometimes just: Too few operands OK or There was an error processing the page. Too few operands OK Clicking OK seems to allow continue but it's annoying! I have 'plenty' of memory. 128Mb. I have used InDesign to create the PDFs. Anyone else getting this problem? <>--------------------------------------------------------<> | Chris Jennings | | Senior Lecturer in Electronic Media at: | | Oxford Brookes University in the UK | | voice (44) 1865 484972 | | E-Mail cjjennings@brookes.ac.uk | <>--------------------------------------------------------<> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 23:09:53-GMT,2862;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09329 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:09:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26634; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:05:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:03:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26495; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:03:24 -0500 X-Sender: espresso@sage.e-scape.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199910251822.NAA22155@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:30:07 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Judyth Mermelstein Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-25-99 [V2 #648] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:52:32 -0400 >From: Jill Sangster >Subject: Re: [PDF] Simpler Form submission wanted > >"Does anybody know of a solution to get form data submitted as an email. >The PDF file contains a number of form fields which are to be completed >and the data submitted back in a simple one-click operation. >[...] >I am looking for a solution which offers remote users the simplicity of >the one-click Submit option from a PDF (front end), to a non-CGI >database (back end) as either raw database-ready text data, or in FDF >format for >direct inclusion into a PDF." Maybe I'm being impossibly naive here, but would it not be possible to set up a simple text file with one field per line, which the recipient can download as such, fill in and subnit or e-mail back? True, it's not as snazzy as a PDF form and you would have to set up a means of concatenating the responses into your database format, but it should work fairly well... Judyth &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..." Montreal, Quebec &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 1:49:15-GMT,2717;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12907 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07624; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:44:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:41:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07283; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:41:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: FW: [PDF] Indexing PDF files Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:46:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >-----Original Message----- >From: Fadel F. Iskander >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Sent: 10/25/99 3:26 PM >Subject: Re: [PDF] Indexing PDF files > >We would like to add another functionality. These PDF files are >financial >statements. We would like to have a user get to the file through some >kind >of a front end process, and allow him/her to display only the hits which >would have been made by giving an account number and a PIN. > >Can this be done? How? You are describing a search by index data. This is easy to incorporate into the function of Acrobat Search. Simply load your index data ("Account Number", and "PIN" in your case, I guess) to the Document Information fields for each of your PDFs. (in Acrobat, do a Control-D to see these fields). Then, you set your File - Preferences - Search dialog to "Show Fields". Build a new index, and load it. Start a search. Enter an account number (for instance) into the field you've chosen to hold this data. Your search will be limited, or filtered, if you will, by this value. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 4:39:52-GMT,3005;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16504 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:39:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20936; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:33:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:31:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20601; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:30:57 -0500 Message-ID: <00b101bf1f73$be5c8de0$90d5523e@none.servicom.es> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-25-99 [V2 #648] Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:34:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Maybe I'm being impossibly naive here, but would it not be possible to set >up a simple text file with one field per line, which the recipient can >download as such, fill in and subnit or e-mail back? True, it's not as >snazzy as a PDF form and you would have to set up a means of concatenating >the responses into your database format, but it should work fairly well... It's the same difference between a skateboard and a BMW. They both do the same... don't they? Now serious... ;-) Adobe has made agreat effort implementing the Forms solution. And it's a good one. For sure. I'm sure in a near future, it will be possible to, at least, send the data to "anywhere" instead of (like right now) sending it only to a URL.( I'm talking of Reader, of course). We'll just have to wait a bit. The solution you proposed can be generated from Reader trough the Global.js file. Up to 65 K of Plain vanilla text, one variable at a line. But..... you'll need another aplicatin to send the file, and another one to extract the data...and... it wouldn't be normalized. And... the problems of not being normalized... are well known.(Mac vs PC, VHS vs BETA,etc.) Trust me, Forms are a goood solution. They just have to grow up. Regards. Carlos. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 4:42:20-GMT,1950;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16570 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:42:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA21171; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:36:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:35:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21065; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:35:03 -0500 Message-ID: <00c001bf1f74$503e70c0$90d5523e@none.servicom.es> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Indexing PDF files Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:38:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The files we create are anywhere from 2000 pages to 200,000 pages. Fadel: Do you really have a 200.000 pages PDF? How big is it? (in Kb) Which is the maximum number of pages that a PDF can hold? Carlos. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 8:19:12-GMT,2220;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21142 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 02:19:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02900; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:10:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:05:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02615; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:05:22 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Global.js (was: Re: pdf-digest for October-25-99 [V2 #648]) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:04:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bf1f88$b02fd000$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00b101bf1f73$be5c8de0$90d5523e@none.servicom.es> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The solution you proposed can be generated from Reader trough > the Global.js file. > Up to 65 K of Plain vanilla text, one variable at a line. This file cannot grow and is shared between all applications, so using all of it is like eating all the cake before the other guests arrive. I would say a responsible application should use no more than 2K worth of this file. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 9:36:28-GMT,2176;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA22603 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:36:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08190; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:29:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:26:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07949; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:26:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3815742F.696B7264@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:28:15 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Quicktime 4 Movie files with Acrobat 4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm having a problem with linking Quicktime 4 movie files to Acrobat 4. I've successfully linked files before but just recently, I've been getting a message saying that the file is "Not a Movie File" I create my movies on a Mac using Quicktime 4 pro and transfer them to a Windows where I work with Acrobat. I initially only had problems with files that were "Streaming". Normal files could still be linked. However, now I can't to link even cinepak compressed files. Has anyone encountered this before ? Would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks Jo Leong ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 12:17:57-GMT,2160;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25435 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:17:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19972; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:11:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:07:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19700; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:07:07 -0500 From: "Richard Mallard" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF to Word Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:03:39 -0400 Message-ID: <000401bf1faa$24bc8820$d40e1bd8@prismatek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Can someone recommend a best method for converting PDF documents to MS Word? There are hundreds maybe thousands of PDFs. The documents are manuals with text, line art and photos. The PDFs were created by Capture, some of the ACDs are available but not all. Is it best to use the ACDs where available and output to MS Word, or RTF? Then, what to do with the rest of the PDFs where no ACD exists? Dick Mallard Prismatek ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 12:35:11-GMT,3021;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25744 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:35:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21869; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:30:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:28:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21649; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:28:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:02:31 +0530 (GMT) From: "J. Murali Krishnan" X-Sender: ujaymu01@arrow To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Word In-Reply-To: <000401bf1faa$24bc8820$d40e1bd8@prismatek.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi!! Use BCL-Computers' Jade Plugin using which you can save the document as RTF. Murali .J "HAVE A NICE DAY" ******************************************************************************* "The greatest virtue that a man can ever possess is that virtue that makes him do something good for this world." -- Anonymous ******************************************************************************* On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Richard Mallard wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Can someone recommend a best method for converting PDF documents to MS Word? > There are hundreds maybe thousands of PDFs. The documents are manuals with > text, line art and photos. The PDFs were created by Capture, some of the > ACDs are available but not all. > Is it best to use the ACDs where available and output to MS Word, or RTF? > Then, what to do with the rest of the PDFs where no ACD exists? > > Dick Mallard > Prismatek > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> > < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 13:29:26-GMT,4410;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26777 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:29:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26782; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:23:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:20:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26386; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:20:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199910261319.GAA08262@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:19:53 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] Re: INDesign: Replacement or Added application? From: "Rich Sprague" To: ctp-q@ctpp.com CC: mikejahn , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Kurt Foss Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: mikejahn > E. Gail Downey surmised; > >>As for the outrage at Adobe for not letting us embed certain fonts in >>Acrobat 4.0 - like everything else, it will work itself out. According to >>Frank Romano at a seminar at GraphExpo '99, any font made with Fontographer >>(and that's most of the smaller font houses), cannot be embedded in Acrobat >>4.0 because of a code inherent with Fontographer. It has nothing to do with >>licensing or any other legal issue. There is simply a code in Fontographer >>that Acrobat reads as a "do not embed" code. Adobe will find a way to work >>around it. They always do. > > No actually they don't always decide to fix broken technologies, nor > should they. I believe that if Fontagrapher sets a flag in a font to a > certain condition (such as "do not embed") and Distiller honors that > flag, that it is the application fault, and it is the responsibility of > the manufacturer to fix it, not Adobes. Hell will probably freeze over before Macromedia fixes Fontographer. The company won't even acknowledge they have created a monster. I don't blame them...I'd probably go stick my head in the sand, too. As I mentioned in my article on font licensing on pdfzone.com, there are a number of workarounds for problem fonts. I doubt if Adobe will ever allow embedding of fsType 0002 fonts (as they would be clearly violating the font licenses of certain makers -- whether the licenses are valid or not is an unproven legal issue), but Acrobat should allow the embedding of 0001 types, which is an undefined code. > OEM and ISV need to recognise that their applications should play nice in > the big workflow sandbox. > > > Michael Jahn > PDF Evangelist The short-term losers in this battle are the service providers that have to spend countless hours taking care of the customers to make their projects work. The long-term losers are the font makers/foundries that restrict the use of their fonts. Providers, such as myself, are going to take an anti-True Type stance, citing incompatibility and cost issues. PDF isn't going to go away. In fact, it's fast becoming the new file standard for our industry. Those who make fonts that don't work with PDFs are in for a long, rough ride. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 14:12:20-GMT,2496;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27597 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:12:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31155; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:06:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:03:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30837; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:03:47 -0500 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:08:52 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: Re: [PDF] Quicktime 4 Movie files with Acrobat 4 In-Reply-To: <3815742F.696B7264@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991026140418Z27629-268+10519@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I had this problem since QT4 first came out. I have reverted back to QT3 on my system when creating mov's for my pdf's. This is the only solution I have found that works. Well it's not really a fix for QT4.. > >Hi, > >I'm having a problem with linking Quicktime 4 movie files to Acrobat 4. >I've successfully linked files before but just recently, I've been >getting a message saying that the file is "Not a Movie File" > >I create my movies on a Mac using Quicktime 4 pro and transfer them to a >Windows where I work with Acrobat. I initially only had problems with >files that were "Streaming". Normal files could still be linked. >However, now I can't to link even cinepak compressed files. > >Has anyone encountered this before ? > >Would appreciate any suggestions. > >Thanks > >Jo Leong ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 15:56:36-GMT,2262;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00408 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:56:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09839; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:47:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:40:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08958; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:40:08 -0500 Message-ID: <337AB4CBC637D3118ABB006008C5F7B608E8C1@pvexchange.petrovend.com> From: Tom Robinson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Only one page of file is printing Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:36:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Using Acrobat 4 Distiller, I've converted a 28-page Word doc into a approximately 500k "Print-Optimized" PDF. When I send it through a PS driver to a HP 8100 printer, only the first two pages (front cover and license notice inside the cover) print! It's like the rest of the PDF file is ignored. When I use the PCL driver on the same printer, all pages print but far more slowly. The problem with the PostScript occurs on SOME other PDF files but not all. It's like the engine noise that mysteriously stops the instant the mechanic opens the hood. I've searched pdfzone archive but nothing jumped out at me. Any ideas? Thanks much. Regards, Tom Robinson Petro Vend Chicago, IL ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 16:21:55-GMT,1764;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01140 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:21:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13160; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:15:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:12:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12842; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:12:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:12:20 -0400 From: marano@ICD.Teradyne.COM (Rosemary Marano (ICD Writers)) Message-Id: <199910261612.MAA02212@capstan.icd.teradyne.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] searching PDF files on the web Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: JzBU9aFkACTflyJRMxNeOQ== Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does any one have a recommendation for Web search engines that support searching PDF files? Thanks, Rosemary Marano Teradyne, Inc. Boston, MA ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 18:16:49-GMT,2037;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04764 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:16:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24935; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:10:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:02:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24151; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:02:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199910261802.LAA10284@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:04:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] searching PDF files on the web From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Does any one have a recommendation for Web search engines that support searching > PDF files? Try AtomZ at http://www.atomz.com/. Their PDF FAQ is located at http://www.atomz.com/help/pdffaq.tk?sp-r=00010287-sp00000000. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 18:30:26-GMT,2572;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05152 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:30:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26522; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:23:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:17:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25834; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:17:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991026142407.00994850@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:24:07 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] Re: INDesign: Replacement or Added application? In-Reply-To: <199910261319.GAA08262@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >As I mentioned in my article on font licensing on pdfzone.com, there are a >number of workarounds for problem fonts. I doubt if Adobe will ever allow >embedding of fsType 0002 fonts (as they would be clearly violating the font >licenses of certain makers -- whether the licenses are valid or not is an >unproven legal issue), but Acrobat should allow the embedding of 0001 types, >which is an undefined code. > Essentially, it seems that Acrobat is looking for an explicit "YES, It's OK to embed" flag in the font, when it'd make more sense for them to abide by explicit "NO, you may NOT embed" flags, while ignoring any others. That about sum it up? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 18:32:33-GMT,2437;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05192 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26759; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:25:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:20:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26036; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:20:05 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991026142624.00995730@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:26:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Only one page of file is printing In-Reply-To: <337AB4CBC637D3118ABB006008C5F7B608E8C1@pvexchange.petroven d.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Using Acrobat 4 Distiller, I've converted a 28-page Word doc into a >approximately 500k "Print-Optimized" PDF. When I send it through a PS driver >to a HP 8100 printer, only the first two pages (front cover and license >notice inside the cover) print! It's like the rest of the PDF file is >ignored. > Do you have any sort of error handling turned on at the printer? If so, are there any error messages? Or perhaps better yet, what happens if you send the PS to file then run it through Distiller? Any burps/log messages? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 18:44:38-GMT,3112;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05534 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:44:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28174; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:38:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:32:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27437; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:32:01 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991026112802.00c00710@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:31:04 -0700 To: Steve Rindsberg From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] Re: INDesign: Replacement or Added application? Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991026142407.00994850@pop.iglou.com> References: <199910261319.GAA08262@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ No, to sum it up, the current "problem" is that there is one undefined value that should never appear in the fsType field that Acrobat Distiller is interpreting as "whoops, we don't really know the intent here because of this bogus value ... we had better not embed." Adobe is seriously evaluating whether to change the behaviour of Acrobat 4 Distiller to just ignore that bogus value. - Dov At 10/26/99 11:24 AM , Steve Rindsberg wrote: > >As I mentioned in my article on font licensing on pdfzone.com, there are a > >number of workarounds for problem fonts. I doubt if Adobe will ever allow > >embedding of fsType 0002 fonts (as they would be clearly violating the font > >licenses of certain makers -- whether the licenses are valid or not is an > >unproven legal issue), but Acrobat should allow the embedding of 0001 types, > >which is an undefined code. > > > >Essentially, it seems that Acrobat is looking for an explicit "YES, It's OK >to embed" flag in the font, when it'd make more sense for them to abide by >explicit "NO, you may NOT embed" flags, while ignoring any others. That >about sum it up? > > >Steve Rindsberg ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 19:05:23-GMT,3147;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06129 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:05:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA30270; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:57:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:55:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA30042; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:55:18 -0500 Message-ID: <005b01bf1fe3$9a202b60$484801d8@tpsitulsa.com> From: "Fadel F. Iskander" To: References: <00c001bf1f74$503e70c0$90d5523e@none.servicom.es> Subject: Re: [PDF] Indexing PDF files Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:54:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos González To: Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 12:38 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] Indexing PDF files > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > >The files we create are anywhere from 2000 pages to 200,000 pages. > > Fadel: > > Do you really have a 200.000 pages PDF? Hello Carlos, yes, we did at the begining of the month. Then we deleted it. We recreated it this morning to answer your question. > > How big is it? (in Kb) The PDF file is 224MB. It was converted from an ascii print file that was driving a centralized Xerox Laser Printer DP180. (180PPM MICR Printer). The ASCII file is 336MB. The file contains 214,000 statement pages for 62,000 Credit Union Members. > > Which is the maximum number of pages that a PDF can hold? I have no idea. But we have not run against it yet. We were told that 3.0 had a limit of about 10,000 pages. > > Carlos. > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> > < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 19:10:27-GMT,4228;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06257 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:10:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30985; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:02:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:00:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA30457; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:59:57 -0500 Message-ID: <012701bf1fe4$619f5620$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:00:33 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, Please forgive me if this issue has already been resolved but I could not find anything in the archives. I am having a frustrating problem with Distiller 4 on my Win 95 box. My source documents are all Word so far (mostly 97/2000 -- only 3-4 pages on average) and I am having a problem getting custom page sizes to Distill correctly without Distiller swapping the orientation and cutting off the page. It takes a 7.25"w x 11"h Word page and creates a 11"h x 7.25"h PDF page. I am using AdobePS 4.3.1 (the problem existed before and after I upgraded). Of course, PDFWriter doesn't exhibit the same error. My problem is, I am trying to develop a standard solution for our customers (church bulletin secretaries -- not very computer savvy) to create PDF files to send to our print shop. In all my trials and research, Distiller was consistently the method of choice due to its better handling of TT fonts, reliability across platforms and programs, etc. Document integrity is our primary goal!! Everything must match exactly what the customer creates in Word... or whatever program they decide to use. Now I run into this problem late in my testing when I try to convert a custom page size (we have various bulletin formats) and am left to wonder if it is even possible to design a standard solution. We would like to streamline our training and processing procedures around Acrobat. It becomes extremely difficult to support multiple methods of creating and converting documents when your customers don't understand the basics (such as what operating system they use or where the power button is), let alone the variables that revolve around PDF creation. Can anyone think of any suggestions that I may not have looked into yet? Is there any possible way to force Distiller to perform its duties reliably? (I know, stupid question). I am amazed Adobe didn't catch that in testing and hope they fix it in the maintenance release (any idea when that is due - if at all?). If it becomes necessary for us to use PDFWriter, can we safely rely on its ability to output a PDF that is an exact replica of the source document, including subsetted or embedded fonts (so far my answer is no)? Again, remember that document integrity is our #1 concern... followed closely by a simple, standard solution (dangerously close to a pipe dream I imagine). Thanks for any input. Sincerely, Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 19:13:28-GMT,3280;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06350 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:13:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31514; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:06:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:04:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31219; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:04:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991026112802.00c00710@mail-303> References: <199910261319.GAA08262@sun630mp.infomania.com> <4.2.0.58.19991026112802.00c00710@mail-303> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:08:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: INDesign: Replacement or Added application? Cc: Steve Rindsberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve et al, Just for the record, and in support of Dov Isaac's comment below, the *only* place where we've observed these failure-to-embed problems to date -- other than cases where the font in question _did_ contain an fsType code that restricted its inclusion -- has been when Distiller 4 encountered this undefined 0x0001 bit setting. As far as we could determine in confirming Rich Sprague's findings, there's no reason Distiller should expect to find anything other than the clearly defined fsTypes specified in the TrueType specs. If there *is* a legitimate use of & reason for using this non-standard fsType setting, neither Rich Sprague or I were able to get an explanation from the Macromedia/Fontographer people, despite *numerous* requests, prior to the publication of his "Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs: The Scoop" article posted earlier this month. For those who might not have seen it already, it's at: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/fonts1.html rgds ~ Kurt _________ > No, to sum it up, the current "problem" is that there is one > undefined value that should never appear in the fsType field > that Acrobat Distiller is interpreting as "whoops, we don't > really know the intent here because of this bogus value ... we > had better not embed." Adobe is seriously evaluating whether > to change the behaviour of Acrobat 4 Distiller to just ignore > that bogus value. ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 19:24:01-GMT,4030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06607 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:23:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00078; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:16:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:12:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32339; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:12:53 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991026120941.00c06d70@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:12:32 -0700 To: Kurt Foss From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: INDesign: Replacement or Added application? Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Steve Rindsberg In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.19991026112802.00c00710@mail-303> <199910261319.GAA08262@sun630mp.infomania.com> <4.2.0.58.19991026112802.00c00710@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ... and another cute glitch in this is that Fontographer under Windows, although it has a default of 0x0002 (no embedding) for fsType, allows the user to enter any value for fsType. Thus, there are a total of 13 other bit settings and combinations thereof, including the 0x0001 setting, that are bogus (i.e., reserved bits with no current definition). - Dov At 10/26/99 12:08 PM , Kurt Foss wrote: >Steve et al, > >Just for the record, and in support of Dov Isaac's comment >below, the *only* place where we've observed these >failure-to-embed problems to date -- other than cases where the >font in question _did_ contain an fsType code that restricted >its inclusion -- has been when Distiller 4 encountered this >undefined 0x0001 bit setting. As far as we could determine in >confirming Rich Sprague's findings, there's no reason Distiller >should expect to find anything other than the clearly defined >fsTypes specified in the TrueType specs. > >If there *is* a legitimate use of & reason for using this >non-standard fsType setting, neither Rich Sprague or I were able >to get an explanation from the Macromedia/Fontographer people, >despite *numerous* requests, prior to the publication of his >"Font Embedding Restrictions in PDFs: The Scoop" article posted >earlier this month. > >For those who might not have seen it already, it's at: >http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/fonts1.html > >rgds ~ Kurt > >_________ > > > No, to sum it up, the current "problem" is that there is one > > undefined value that should never appear in the fsType field > > that Acrobat Distiller is interpreting as "whoops, we don't > > really know the intent here because of this bogus value ... we > > had better not embed." Adobe is seriously evaluating whether > > to change the behaviour of Acrobat 4 Distiller to just ignore > > that bogus value. >________________________________________________________ >Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 19:27:46-GMT,4328;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06685 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:27:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00712; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:20:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:18:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00413; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:18:21 -0500 Message-ID: <008301bf1fe6$d7386640$484801d8@tpsitulsa.com> From: "Fadel F. Iskander" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Indexing PDF files Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:17:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Duff Johnson To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 8:46 PM Subject: FW: [PDF] Indexing PDF files > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Fadel F. Iskander > >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >Sent: 10/25/99 3:26 PM > >Subject: Re: [PDF] Indexing PDF files > > > >We would like to add another functionality. These PDF files are financial statements. We would like to have a user get to the file through some kind of a front end process, and allow him/her to display only the hits which would have been made by giving an account number and a PIN. > > > >Can this be done? How? > > You are describing a search by index data. This is easy to incorporate > into the function of Acrobat Search. Simply load your index data > ("Account Number", and "PIN" in your case, I guess) to the Document > Information fields for each of your PDFs. (in Acrobat, do a Control-D to > see these fields). > > Then, you set your File - Preferences - Search dialog to "Show Fields". > Thank you Duff for answering my post. However, In "our" Acrobat 4.0, File - Preferences hase no Search dialog, but only: Genreal Annotations Full Screen Web Link Did I skip an option during the "typical" installation? > Build a new index, and load it. Start a search. Enter an account > number (for instance) into the field you've chosen to hold this data. > Your search will be limited, or filtered, if you will, by this value. Please bare with me while I re-state what I'm looking for: Say you are a member of State Federal Credit Union (name is fictitious, I hop). You go to their web site, click on a link that says you would like to see your 10/99 statement. The front end process asks for your member number, and PIN. After it clears you as the right owner of the account, it searches the PDF file for the account number (that is how we indexed the PDF file). After it finds the hits, it shows them to you. Is that still possible? > Duff Johnson > Document Solutions, Inc. > www.document-solutions.com > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> > < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 19:50:51-GMT,2208;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07385 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:50:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03616; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:44:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:41:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03247; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:41:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3816064A.9AA0F370@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:51:38 -0300 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Only one page of file is printing References: <337AB4CBC637D3118ABB006008C5F7B608E8C1@pvexchange.petrovend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Using Acrobat 4 Distiller, I've converted a 28-page Word doc into a > approximately 500k "Print-Optimized" PDF. When I send it through a PS driver > to a HP 8100 printer, only the first two pages (front cover and license > notice inside the cover) print! It's like the rest of the PDF file is > ignored. > > When I use the PCL driver on the same printer, all pages print but far more > slowly. Have you tried printing only one page at a time? This might help you isolate the problem/defective page. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 20:31:44-GMT,2159;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08645 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:31:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07670; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:24:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:20:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07190; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:20:49 -0500 Message-ID: <38160F8F.EC5B309A@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:31:11 -0300 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Indexing PDF files References: <00c001bf1f74$503e70c0$90d5523e@none.servicom.es> <005b01bf1fe3$9a202b60$484801d8@tpsitulsa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > Which is the maximum number of pages that a PDF can hold? > > I have no idea. But we have not run against it yet. We were told that 3.0 > had a limit of about 10,000 pages. >From the following link http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/1bee2.htm you will find this info. Acrobat 4.0 PDF Pages and Display - Number of pages: 1 - millions Acrobat Distiller -- Maximum number of pages: theoretically unlimited Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 20:37:17-GMT,2488;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08764 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:37:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08245; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:30:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:28:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07996; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:28:09 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:27:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Only one page of file is printing From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991026202613.WNQQ29247.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try something for me... If you print a few pages, and the file stops at page 5, then try printing from page 6 on. In the past this has been a solution, as PDF is page oriented, and if this works, the error is on page 5. This is usually a font error. Regenerate the page, and replace. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 20:57:45-GMT,2506;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09349 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:57:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09756; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:43:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:40:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09358; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:40:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:42:49 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" To: PDF mailing list Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991026204012.DBDX399.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Currently I use Acrobat 4.0 and am trying to paginate my newspaper publications electronically. Doing this, I need to place PDF files into my editorial pages laid out in Quark Xpress. So... I have found that if I "Export" PDF files as an EPS, I can place these files into a picture box in Quark. But I'm having problems when Exporting. If I use a "postscript level 1" sometimes I get an error message saying that some of the colors in the document may not separate correctly. What's going on here? Is there something I'm missing? Is there any way to fix this? Do I need to "resave" the original PDF files in a different way before Exporting as an EPS? Correct me if I'm wrong but, saving as "postscript level 2 and 3" will not allow a printer to separate colors from this EPS. Right? So I need to save as level 1 binary. Right? HELP! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 21:09:50-GMT,5931;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09700 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11979; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:02:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:59:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11619; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:59:48 -0500 Message-ID: <381618B2.7AE1D579@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:10:10 -0300 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes References: <012701bf1fe4$619f5620$466564c8@mabrahamson> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Michael, You seem to be approaching this solution from a technical point of view. You also need to consider it from a workflow point of view. Actually that is how you should be approaching it for the most part. To start off go to http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=331 and read my article on wordprocessor to PDF workflows. Not everyone agrees with my assessment, but experience has show it to be accurate most of the time. > I am having a problem > getting custom page sizes to Distill correctly without Distiller swapping > the orientation and cutting off the page. It takes a 7.25"w x 11"h Word > page and creates a 11"h x 7.25"h PDF page. I am using AdobePS 4.3.1 (the > problem existed before and after I upgraded). Of course, PDFWriter doesn't > exhibit the same error. There are a variety of possibilities here. I'm not aware of any Distiller bugs that could cause this, but maybe someone else knows something I don't. You should seriously consider the PDFMaker macro for Word. > Distiller was consistently the method of choice due to its better > handling of TT fonts, reliability across platforms and programs, etc. > Document integrity is our primary goal!! Everything must match exactly what > the customer creates in Word... or whatever program they decide to use. Nothing can reliably handle TT fonts. If you want to sell a professional service/solution you had better be prepared to abandon TT fonts right from the start. The reasons are too complex to explain here, so suffice it to say that TT fonts are for amateurs, and PostScript Type 1 fonts are for the pros. Type 1 Fonts are inexpensive and the defacto publishing/printing industry standard. With Distiller 4, TT fonts have become an absolute nightmare and should be avoided like the plague. See Rich Sprague's excellent article about this insufferable situation at: http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/fonts1.html I know I incur the wrath of many TT font aficionados with my bold statements, but I create hundreds and sometimes thousands of PDFs daily using exclusively PostScript type 1 fonts and I always sleep well at night. Font problems basically don't exist in my universe because of my insistence on following proven technology. > Now > I run into this problem late in my testing when I try to convert a custom > page size (we have various bulletin formats) and am left to wonder if it is > even possible to design a standard solution. We would like to streamline > our training and processing procedures around Acrobat. It can certainly be done, as long as you play by a few hard and fast rules as I've been explaining. Be sure to read my article, it covers much more than what I've written here. > If it becomes necessary for us to use PDFWriter, can we safely > rely on its ability to output a PDF that is an exact replica of the source > document, including subsetted or embedded fonts (so far my answer is no)? It is possible if you play by all the rules and stick to simple documents, if graphics are rare, and file sizes remain relatively small. A word processor is not a DTP application and cannot be expected to handle many complex documents which are better suited for DTPing. Wordprocessors do not handle page formatting the same way the PostScript and PDF imaging models do. The differences are extensive and sometimes extremely complex to rectify, therefore increasing the chances of errors and poor results. > Again, remember that document integrity is our #1 concern... followed > closely by a simple, standard solution (dangerously close to a pipe dream I > imagine). As I said from the start, a proper workflow is essential. There is nothing wrong with wordprocessors, and all is well with Acrobat/PDF. 90% of the problems arise from poor workflows. There are many situations where Distiller is recommended over PDFWriter. See the Acrobat online guide for details. In a nutshell, PDFWriter is a printer driver that relies on GDI (Windows) or QuickDraw (Mac) and all their limitations. Distiller is a PostScript interpreter that can take full advantage of the superior power of Postscript. The differences between the two are significant. With a properly configured system, Distiller should be as easy to use as PDFWriter. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 22:01:34-GMT,7045;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11100 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17336; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:54:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:51:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17008; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:51:10 -0500 Message-ID: <015301bf1ffc$722f8600$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <012701bf1fe4$619f5620$466564c8@mabrahamson> <381618B2.7AE1D579@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:52:49 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > You seem to be approaching this solution from a technical point of view. > You also need to consider it from a workflow point of view. Actually that is how > you should be approaching it for the most part. Actually, I have tried to approach this from a workflow perspective as much as possible. Our workflow as it exists does not translate very well into incorporating PDF and its capabilities, unfortunately. That is something I am stuck dealing with until drastic changes are made (not very likely in this company at this time). I'll explain further down the topic... > To start off go to http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=331 > and read my article on wordprocessor to PDF workflows. Not everyone agrees > with my assessment, but experience has show it to be accurate most of the time. > > There are a variety of possibilities here. I'm not aware of any Distiller bugs > that could cause this, but maybe someone else knows something I don't. You > should seriously consider the PDFMaker macro for Word. I will certainly visit your article at my earliest convenience. I have considered and tested the PDFMaker macro extensively. I had great success with it early on. However, part of my goal is standardizing a workflow around various applications, since not all of our current customers use MS Word, and many potential customers also refuse to adopt a Microsoft program. We are at the mercy of our customers as far as that goes. My idea was to discover and develop a standard workflow for every customer regardless of their source application in order to streamline both our documentation and support issues associated with creating PDF files. Since every application in Windows has a File>Print option, that turned out to be the easiest way to standardize our workflow and PDFMaker was abandoned outright. This also made sense because we have no need for the added features that PDFMaker incorporates such as retaining or converting links, etc. > Nothing can reliably handle TT fonts... See Rich Sprague's > excellent article about this insufferable situation at: > http://www.pdfzone.com/rich/fonts1.html My comment regarding TT fonts was only meant to suggest Distiller does a better job with them than PDFWriter in general. As far as the success of either... no comment. :) Unfortunately, we are not in a position to tell our more than 1000 customers to scrap all their TT fonts in favor of Type 1. And if I tried I would get a long series of responses to the effect of "What the heck are you talking about?" Our customers would have no clue. Many of them think a font is something in which you baptize your child! I think most common users would balk at the idea of having to scrap roughly 95% of the fonts that come preloaded on their machine just so they can create a reliable PDF file. While Type 1 is a good suggestion, it is not practical in any way for our business. Perhaps that suggests that PDF might not be practical for our business... but I would wager this to be the case for many print shops if they had to force every user to abandon TT fonts altogether. And I am sure Adobe didn't have this in mind when they designed Acrobat and PDF to be the defacto standard for the prepress and printing industry. TT fonts may be bugaboos, but they are far too prevalent to be ignored or abandoned. > A word processor is not a DTP application... The differences are > extensive and sometimes extremely complex to rectify, therefore increasing the > chances of errors and poor results. Again, this is a factor I cannot control. I would be thrilled if my company had chosen a DTP application over Word long ago when they made the leap into a Windows arena. They didn't, and here I am fighting through the obstacles that creates when trying to go to a PDF workflow. We deal with the shortcomings of Word on a daily basis. I am sure Publisher or PageMaker would suit our needs much better overall. However, I am charged with finding a way to incorporate a PDF workflow into our existing process. That forces me to deal with all the shortcomings one at a time. I believe I have overcome most of them, and even have a couple test customers who have already had great success generating PDF files from Word that can attest to that. My specific problem is with the way Distiller 4 does not correctly output page orientation from custom page sizes in Microsoft Word. This seems a simple enough bug to fix. I am not a developer and make no assumptions as to the difficulty of repairing a buggy app, but this one seems obvious even to me. I cannot understand why Distiller would choose to swap the page dimensions the way it does. This error is non-existent in PDFWriter. Forgive me for repeating myself. I hope my explanation is clear. I commend Adobe for all the work they have done with Acrobat and its relatives. I simply would like to know if there is a way to circumvent an obvious bug or if there are plans to fix this in the near future. Thanks for your help, Bryan. I hope I find time this week to review your article as I'm sure it will be of great assistance. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 23:30:10-GMT,2093;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13327 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24213; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:21:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:17:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23892; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:17:51 -0500 Message-ID: <00E1C8ECF9BDD211A5390090271B28FC0DE90A@exchange.trapeze.net> From: "Bergerman, Matthew" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] batch optimizing large volume of documents Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:19:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a large batch (close to 1 million documents) stored on a UNIX server, that need to be optimized for byte serving. They come from a variety of sources on a constant basis and all new files must be optimized as well. I cannot rely on the authors of these files to optimize the documents. Other than running the batch process in exchange is there any other way to optimize this large group of files and assure that new files are optimized as well? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 23:30:12-GMT,5661;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13332 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:30:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24402; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:22:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:20:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24056; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:20:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3816399B.79FA1430@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:30:35 -0300 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes References: <012701bf1fe4$619f5620$466564c8@mabrahamson> <381618B2.7AE1D579@nbnet.nb.ca> <015301bf1ffc$722f8600$466564c8@mabrahamson> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Michael > My idea was to > discover and develop a standard workflow for every customer regardless of > their source application in order to streamline both our documentation and > support issues associated with creating PDF files. If this were possible then I would have developed it long ago, I would have sold it to all mankind, I'd have more money than Bill Gates (well maybe not), and you'd be doing another job (-: Actually the Acrobat workflow is about as standard as it gets, it's dealing with all the other apps that's the thorny issue. > Unfortunately, we are not in a position to tell our more than 1000 customers > to scrap all their TT fonts in favor of Type 1. Funny thing how every software manufacturer on the planet sees it as perfectly all right to tell their millions of customers to scrap 99% of their (usually very expensive) applications every 6 months in favor of yet another upgrade. The same applies to hardware. Buying and using an inexpensive collection of high quality fonts is not exactly an earth shaking event. Perhaps a short presentation of what their ignorance can produce for them might "convert" them?! I deal with a lot of people, companies big and small and government agencies. I flat out refuse to accept any job that involves TT in any way shape or form. I have had to learn it the hard way that you simply cannot turn a profit with the TT/PDF combo especially when dealing with novice computer users who tend to have a knack for breaking every wordprocessing rule in the book, which they usually haven't read and probably never will. I understand the predicament you're in. Many out there face the same problem. Anyway I'm just rambling. All I can do is wish you luck on that one. > I think most common users would > balk at the idea of having to scrap roughly 95% of the fonts that come > preloaded on their machine just so they can create a reliable PDF file. Show them the alternatives! They can spend about 100 bucks (probably closer to $50) for an excellent collection of Type 1 fonts that will serve them well for a very long time and be part of an industrial strength solution, or they can keep throwing money at botched up jobs, or worse yet invest in another solution which is very likely to cost a zillion dollars more than Acrobat. Maybe they need to realize that even though salvation is free, computer technology is not ((-: There is a cure for ignorance. Educate your customers. 99% of the time it pays off, and the odd crackpot that doesn't believe in tried and true wisdom you probably don't want to deal with anyway since they are usually more trouble than they are worth. I'm rambling again. > While Type 1 is a good suggestion, it is not practical in any way for our > business. Perhaps that suggests that PDF might not be practical for our > business... but I would wager this to be the case for many print shops if > they had to force every user to abandon TT fonts altogether. Many print shops flatly refuse jobs with TT fonts. I have seen what the majority of TT fonts produce when they are ripped, and it's not pretty, and looks about as good as a 9 pin dot matrix printout. The shops that do take TT fonts will rarely offer any guarantees on the output, but I'm rambling again. > And I am sure > Adobe didn't have this in mind when they designed Acrobat and PDF to be the > defacto standard for the prepress and printing industry. TT fonts may be > bugaboos, but they are far too prevalent to be ignored or abandoned. I'll refer to your own statement: "Again, remember that document integrity is our #1 concern" If you are really serious about integrity then you need to be really serious about fonts. Ask any expert in PDF, prepress, or any kind of high integrity document creation what the greatest problem is. The answer will always be FONTS! OK I'm done rambling so I'm gonna crawl back into my hole. Bye. ((-: Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 23:58:00-GMT,4543;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13955 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:57:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27212; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:52:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:50:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26790; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:50:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991026195627.0098c4b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:56:27 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes In-Reply-To: <015301bf1ffc$722f8600$466564c8@mabrahamson> References: <012701bf1fe4$619f5620$466564c8@mabrahamson> <381618B2.7AE1D579@nbnet.nb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >My specific problem is with the way Distiller 4 does not correctly output >page orientation from custom page sizes in Microsoft Word. Not so much a matter of how Distiller handles the PS as of the PS that's generated, I suspect. If you look at the first few lines of the PS you can see what size Word/the PS driver have cooked up between them. Further along, you'll see %%BeginFeature: *PageSize then a line or so beyond that, the code ( /PageSize [xxx yyy] put dup etcetcetc that sets up the requested page size in Distiller. If you change the xxx & yyy, Distiller will respect it and deliver the page size you've dialed in. Not that this is necessarily of any value to you, but it does let Distiller off the bug hook, I think. >From having prodded at this some in the past, ISTR that DistAsst doesn't deal in custom page sizes. Some experimentation might reveal what Word does when it comes face to face with the driver ... it doesn't seem to acquit itself well. If I get it to settle down to a custom page size (of < or > letter size) it doesn't seem to matter what DistAsst paper size I choose (11x17, letter, whatever) I get letter in the PS. FWIW, it's possible to force the issue with some apps by redefining one of the existing paper sizes in the DistAsst PPD to the size you're after. As word seems to pick up its page size names and dimensions from the driver (though it adds Custom whether the driver supports it or not) it should work. To make things even more lovely, Word appears to round you up or down to the nearest page size IT knows about. Try choosing an oddball one, then modify the dimensions a bit. OK, then have another look at the same dialog. Unless you land it on a size that's far enough (in its lights) from something it knows, it keeps bumping you back to a known size. This is almost as useful a feature as WinkyBlinky, The Moron Paperclip. >This seems a >simple enough bug to fix. I am not a developer and make no assumptions as >to the difficulty of repairing a buggy app, To swat the bug, you first have to locate it. I can't get it to crawl out from under Distiller, but there's very definitely something wiggly in Word. It's Word that provides the Custom page size, not the driver in this case. It appears to me that it should then be up to Word to deal with it when you try to make use of the feature. Clearly it doesn't. >dimensions the way it does. This error is non-existent in PDFWriter. Where you *can* define a custom page size. That seems to make quite a difference. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 8:30:03-GMT,4970;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24789 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:30:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01177; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:22:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:20:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00875; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:20:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199910270820.JAA26240@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 8:30:59 +0000 To: " pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ RE>[PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac 27/10/99 Have you tried the Pdf quark import extension yet which is avaliable from the quark website it imports Pdf's directly into quark, i have had no porblems with it yet. Stuart Slaney Pdf solutions http://members.aol.com/pdfsol/pdfsolutions -------------------------------------- Date: 27/10/99 8:20 am To: Stuart Slaney From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Currently I use Acrobat 4.0 and am trying to paginate my newspaper publications electronically. Doing this, I need to place PDF files into my editorial pages laid out in Quark Xpress. So... I have found that if I "Export" PDF files as an EPS, I can place these files into a picture box in Quark. But I'm having problems when Exporting. If I use a "postscript level 1" sometimes I get an error message saying that some of the colors in the document may not separate correctly. What's going on here? Is there something I'm missing? Is there any way to fix this? Do I need to "resave" the original PDF files in a different way before Exporting as an EPS? Correct me if I'm wrong but, saving as "postscript level 2 and 3" will not allow a printer to separate colors from this EPS. Right? So I need to save as level 1 binary. Right? HELP! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Message ID: -1271110064] [Internet header:] Received: from mailhost.ipl.co.uk (beaujolais.ipl.co.uk [193.132.29.47]) by knowwrks.demon.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id V2ZABMZP; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:10:37 +0100 Received: from maipo.ipl.co.uk by mailhost.ipl.co.uk (8.6.9/UUNET PIPEX simple 1.29) id VAA27388; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:49:53 +0100 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by maipo.ipl.co.uk (8.9.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA22062 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:48:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09378; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:40:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:40:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09358; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:40:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:42:49 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" To: PDF mailing list Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991026204012.DBDX399.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 9:02:41-GMT,3958;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA25448 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:02:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA03782; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:56:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:54:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA03643; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 03:54:42 -0500 Message-Id: <4.0.1.19991027114853.01167690@mail.netvision.net.il> X-Sender: mtype@mail.netvision.net.il X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:03:09 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Shlomo Perets Subject: [PDF] (more on) Indexing PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sandra Law wrote: > I was asked to create an index for software documentation > saved as PDFs. These are book-length documents. I can > successfully (or apparently successfully) create the index > (I see the *.pdx file in the folder and the accompanying > folders) but I don't see the advantage to having an index. When > I attempt a search using the indexed file I don't seem to see > anything that is different from a search of an unindexed file. > What is the rationale behind indexing in Adobe Acrobat? ... As explained in other replies, the Search function is much more powerful than the Find function. I would like, however, to emphasize a crucial but often neglected aspect. The Search function is more useful than Find only if your document collection is split to smaller units (chapters, sections) with meaningful, unique Document Information fields (Title, Subject, Keywords). Let's see two real-life examples: The online help in Acrobat 3 was implemented as a set of interlinked PDFs, each with unique Document Information fields. Some of the PDFs were too large, in my opinion, but still using the Search function resulted in a list of documents (listed by their, with relevancy ranking). You could then locate the title that seems appropriate, click it and see highlighted terms, move between highlighted items in the current document or next/ previous documents. [ I do not mean to say that the Acrobat 3 help system is a model of how things should be done - it has quite a few design/ implementation problems in my opinion - but still it can be used to demonstrate the power of Search. ] More work on the author's end? generally yes (even though with some authoring applications such as FrameMaker and with the appropriate techniques work can be reduced to one-time setup). The question, though, is what you prefer as an author/editor: your comfort, or the reader's comfort? It seems that the authors/editors/designers of the Acrobat 4 help preferred their comfort... Online help for Acrobat 4 is implemented as a single PDF - this pretty much reduces the usefulness of the Search function to that of Find: clueless, serial jumps in a long document. Shlomo Perets MicroType http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker-to-Acrobat: TimeSavers / Advanced Techniques Course / Solutions ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 10:19:11-GMT,1953;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA26887 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:19:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09267; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 05:11:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 05:10:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09086; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 05:09:59 -0500 Message-ID: <004b01bf2063$685deba0$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: "pdf zone" Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:09:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you are using NT you will have problems with custom pages this is due to the Adobe PS driver. Under 95 we are able to produce any size page from Word. Paul Dennis Complete Picture London Publishing Solutions For Industry ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-1999 18:42:13-GMT,2366;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01459 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:42:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22598; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:26:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:22:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22090; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:22:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3814AF42.E72F82E5@qmaster.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:28:02 -0700 From: Sandra Law Organization: QMaster Software Solutions Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ""pdf\"@lists.pdfzone.com" file I don't seem to see anything th""pdf\"@lists.pdfzone.com>" Subject: [PDF] Indexing PDF files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I was asked to create an index for software documentation saved as PDFs. These are book-length documents. I can successfully (or apparently successfully) create the index (I see the *.pdx file in the folder and the accompanying folders) but I don't see the advantage to having an index. When I attempt a search using the indexed file I don't seem to see anything that is different from a search of an unindexed file. What is the rationale behind indexing in Adobe Acrobat? I think the client who wants the index really wants bookmarks (to be able to go to portion of file that they click on from list of items). Can anyone enlighten me? Sandra Law __________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ___________ <- The 'AcroForm Advisor' is IN the building - first column posted -> -<- Read Kas Thomas @ http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/ -> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-1999 2:27:38-GMT,1886;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13738 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:27:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10809; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:21:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:20:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10600; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:20:08 -0500 Message-ID: <38152EA7.AB70FC2B@primary.net> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:31:35 -0700 From: rhoggard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDF-Basics] Screen Shots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Chris, This has worked for me: Take your shot and paste it into Word. Don't mess with it (re-sizing or anything like that). After distilling your Word file, force a view of 133% (page open or document open) The shot will look pretty good then. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ < New Adobe ATM, ATM Deluxe & Type Reunion Deluxe for Apple Mac OS 9> < DETAILS & LINKS: http://www.pdfzone.com/news/MacOS9updates.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 13:31:52-GMT,2132;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00699 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:31:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24765; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:25:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:22:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24444; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:22:25 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:19:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: aruff@reading.org (Anette Ruff) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19991027132519642.AAA238.460@[10.10.10.79]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >So... I have found that if I "Export" PDF files as an EPS, I can place >these files into a picture box in Quark.< You did not mention which version of QuarkXPress you are using. There is a PDF filter available (free) on their web site that lets you import PDFs into picture boxes directly. No need to export your PDFs as EPS, just use your original PDFs (print optimized for a print publication, obviously). Anette Schuetz-Ruff International Reading Association aruff@reading.org ---------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 13:31:56-GMT,4980;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00703 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:31:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24758; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:25:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:22:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24422; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:22:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199910271322.GAA05420@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:22:09 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: [ctpp] Distiller 4 FAILS to Embed Fonts! From: "Rich Sprague" To: ctpp@ctpp.com CC: mikejahn , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Kurt Foss Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Agfa hardly is going to expose itself to legal action by a font vendor > and change the approach that Adobe takes on embeding fonts, as it may > expose our partners at Adobe. Lets face it, it may seem to you like Adobe > suddenly changed the rules and is making life miserable for everyone - > when in reality Distiller 4.0 actually folows the rules as they should be > followed - if a font has a flag in it that is unclear (because the font > manufacturer did not "get" how to use the flag properly - i would rather > they respect my intentions and not embed (as a font manufacturer) and (as > Dov suggest) get a lot of heat to fix my font from the users and be > forced to fix it - and the result is better fonts that behave as intended. The compromise which would force a fix is for Distiller to *honor* the restriction of all fonts with fsType 0002 (no embedding allowed), and to allow all other definied or undefined fsTypes. > It is not fair to blame Adobe to protect a font manufacturers wish to not > embed - in Distiller 3.0, they ran over that right, and now they respect > it. I applaud this. True Type manufacturers that choose to prevent font > embeding should be yelled at, not Adobe. I agree on both points. However, Adobe knew about the Fontographer mess long before the introduction of Acrobat 4. They probably made a dumb decision regarding their choice not to embed fsType 0001 types, and they most definitely tried to sneak this one in on users without warning there was going to be a huge problem. FWIW, in fairness they may not have realized what they were doing, or the impact their decision would have, either. > I don't think the sky is falling. I think we are slowly uncovering the > fact that many fonts are a mess, and this will continue to cause problems > until they are fixed. I have spent long hours on this issue corresponding with various Adobe staffers and management, including their CEO John Warnock. The dialog includes e-mail, telephone calls, and face-to-face meetings. When you look in someone's eyes, and can read their body language, you can get a pretty good handle on where people are coming from. I'm not convinced that Adobe is a big, bad wolf waiting to gobble Little Red Riding Hood. PDF started out as a tortoise, and in only eight years has turned into a hare, or perhaps a herd of hares. It has taken pre-press by storm. I don't think anyone ever perceived what a problem this fsType issue would become. I believe Adobe is caught in a vice, and is honestly trying to do the right thing for its partners and its customers. A look at it's legal record in California shows very few suits filed against them. They are an astoundingly clean company. If one wants to point the finger, it should be towards Macromedia, as Fontographer has caused a great deal of the font mess. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 13:58:55-GMT,2925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01343 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:58:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27846; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:52:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:51:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27648; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:51:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:53:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991027135057.DHWD399.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, I do use Quark 4.0.1 and I have the extension for importing PDFs. Does this allow color seps still? Roderick Kabel Art Director Cityview ---------- >From: aruff@reading.org (Anette Ruff) >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac >Date: Wed, Oct 27, 1999, 8:19 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > >>So... I have found that if I "Export" PDF files as an EPS, I can place >>these files into a picture box in Quark.< > > You did not mention which version of QuarkXPress you are using. There is a > PDF filter available (free) on their web site that lets you import PDFs into > picture boxes directly. No need to export your PDFs as EPS, just use your > original PDFs (print optimized for a print publication, obviously). > > Anette Schuetz-Ruff > International Reading Association > aruff@reading.org > > ---------- > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 14:04:19-GMT,3231;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01488 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:04:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28496; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:58:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:57:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28298; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:57:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199910271356.GAA05923@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:56:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>So... I have found that if I "Export" PDF files as an EPS, I can place >>these files into a picture box in Quark.< > > You did not mention which version of QuarkXPress you are using. There is a > PDF filter available (free) on their web site that lets you import PDFs into > picture boxes directly. No need to export your PDFs as EPS, just use your > original PDFs (print optimized for a print publication, obviously). > > Anette Schuetz-Ruff > International Reading Association > aruff@reading.org Oh, let's be careful with the advice. One, the Quark PDF 1.3 import/export filter is still beta, and won't import Acrobat 4-compatible PDFs. Quark says the reason for this is that Adobe won't provide them the current PDF Library. Adobe disagrees, and says it's Quark's fault. A standoff or a stacked deck? Maybe. Perhaps Adobe can clarify this issue for us. Two, the Print Optimized settings (which is a horrible choice of words), does not mean printing. Press Optimized settings should be chosen for printing. Adobe needs to change the word Print to something else that relates to Docutech and high-speed laser reproduction to avoid confusion with offset printing. Any ideas? Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 14:06:32-GMT,2337;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01567 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:06:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28749; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:00:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:59:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28620; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:59:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199910271359.GAA05981@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:59:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Yes, I do use Quark 4.0.1 and I have the extension for importing PDFs. > Does this allow color seps still? > > Roderick Kabel > Art Director > Cityview S'psd to. Make sure you use Acrobat 3-compatible documents, and test it for yourself. Also, you might want to upgrade to Quark 4.04. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 14:08:37-GMT,2435;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01609 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:08:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29315; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:03:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:02:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29116; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:02:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199910271402.HAA06058@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:02:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Correct me if I'm wrong but, saving as "postscript level 2 and 3" > will not allow a printer to separate colors from this EPS. Right? > So I need to save as level 1 binary. Right? HELP! Really? We do it every day. Export PDF files, as EPS Level 2. Most rips are now either Level 2 or Level 3. Why would you not be able to separate an EPS file in Level 2, if you have a Level 2 rip? Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 14:13:50-GMT,2814;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01753 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:13:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29914; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:08:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:07:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29772; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:07:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199910271407.HAA06126@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:07:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] Re: INDesign: Replacement or Added application? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: Steve Rindsberg >>As I mentioned in my article on font licensing on pdfzone.com, there are a >>number of workarounds for problem fonts. I doubt if Adobe will ever allow >>embedding of fsType 0002 fonts (as they would be clearly violating the font >>licenses of certain makers -- whether the licenses are valid or not is an >>unproven legal issue), but Acrobat should allow the embedding of 0001 types, >>which is an undefined code. >> > > Essentially, it seems that Acrobat is looking for an explicit "YES, It's OK > to embed" flag in the font, when it'd make more sense for them to abide by > explicit "NO, you may NOT embed" flags, while ignoring any others. That > about sum it up? That sums it up. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 14:42:01-GMT,3026;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02695 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32763; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:32:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:30:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32313; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:30:04 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:32:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991027142936.DIOV399.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ So... I need a copy of Acrobat 3? ---------- >From: "Rich Sprague" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac >Date: Wed, Oct 27, 1999, 8:59 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > >> Yes, I do use Quark 4.0.1 and I have the extension for importing PDFs. >> Does this allow color seps still? >> >> Roderick Kabel >> Art Director >> Cityview > > S'psd to. Make sure you use Acrobat 3-compatible documents, and test it for > yourself. > > Also, you might want to upgrade to Quark 4.04. > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress > (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing > (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting > rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 14:42:03-GMT,3375;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02699 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:42:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00164; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:33:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:32:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32723; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:32:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:34:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991027143210.DIQG399.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Here's where talking to as many people as possible can be harmful. I was told that level 1 was the only way to get PDFs to separate color. Level 1 is a pain in the butt. I've tried level 2 & 3 and they save ok. But I haven't tried to sep color from them yet. So it works huh? THANKS! ---------- >From: "Rich Sprague" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac >Date: Wed, Oct 27, 1999, 9:02 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > >> Correct me if I'm wrong but, saving as "postscript level 2 and 3" >> will not allow a printer to separate colors from this EPS. Right? >> So I need to save as level 1 binary. Right? HELP! > > Really? > > We do it every day. Export PDF files, as EPS Level 2. > > Most rips are now either Level 2 or Level 3. Why would you not be able to > separate an EPS file in Level 2, if you have a Level 2 rip? > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress > (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing > (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting > rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 14:43:58-GMT,1895;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02772 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:43:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00505; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:36:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:35:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00373; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:35:37 -0500 Message-id: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:43:34 +0100 Subject: Re(2): [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >S'psd to. Make sure you use Acrobat 3-compatible documents, and test it >for >yourself. > >Also, you might want to upgrade to Quark 4.04. > >Rich The QuarkXPress 4.1 updater will be sent free (probably in early November) to Quark registered users. It will include the PDF filter. Steve Werner Training Manager Rapid Graphics San Francisco, CA ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 14:51:06-GMT,3182;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02995 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:51:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01524; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:45:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:44:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01362; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:44:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199910271444.HAA06755@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:44:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" > Here's where talking to as many people as possible can be harmful. > I was told that level 1 was the only way to get PDFs to separate color. > Level 1 is a pain in the butt. I've tried level 2 & 3 and they save ok. > But I haven't tried to sep color from them yet. > > So it works huh? THANKS! >>> Correct me if I'm wrong but, saving as "postscript level 2 and 3" >>> will not allow a printer to separate colors from this EPS. Right? >>> So I need to save as level 1 binary. Right? HELP! >> >> Really? >> >> We do it every day. Export PDF files, as EPS Level 2. >> >> Most rips are now either Level 2 or Level 3. Why would you not be able to >> separate an EPS file in Level 2, if you have a Level 2 rip? Rod, if you still have trouble please tell me/us more about what you are doing. We're using Quark 4.04 on a Mac. O/S 8.6, Adobe PS Print Driver 8.6. We import the EPS into Quark, and we can separate on any one of four rips (HP 4MV laser printer with true Adobe PS, Agfa Selectset 7000 - Viper, Agfa Avantra 30 - Taipan, Heidelberg Quickmaster DI - Harlequin. Good luck. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 14:57:18-GMT,2275;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03160 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02194; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:51:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:50:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02011; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:50:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199910271449.HAA06841@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:49:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" > So... I need a copy of Acrobat 3? Nope, just customize your Press Optimized settings in Acrobat 4. There's a pop up window that allows you to choose Acrobat 3-compatible. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 22:42:56-GMT,5464;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16828 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:42:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16961; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:32:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:27:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16345; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:27:22 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991027151356.00bc3500@mail-345> X-Sender: dsites@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:28:06 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dick Sites Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs In-Reply-To: <004501bf1f1c$79df83e0$fab38dcf@grumpy2.curtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_169702118==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_169702118==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:09 PM 10/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >Thanks Cynthia. The problem is one in the 3.02 viewer, and non-postscript >printer drivers. The images view poorly under 3.02, as they are >aliased...but they print OK on postscript printers. I haven't used the >4.0 viewer but many list members say the viewed images will be much better >there. Yes, use the free Acrobat 4.0 Reader. Prior to version 4.0, Acrobat used subsampling of images (such as screen shots) to display on your screen. For an original image with something like a thin black line and lots of pixels per inch, a portion of the original image might be this 4x4 square of pixels (.=white, X=black): . X . . . X . . . X . . . X . . If this has to be displayed on-screen as a *single* pixel, previous versions of Acrobat would pick just ONE of those 16 pixels, say the upper left one (white). The thin vertical line would disappear entirely. At a slightly different zoom factor, a black pixel might be chosen, making a fat black line. Zooming to 400% or so shows no problems. Printing on a 300 DPI or better printer shows no problems. But display on-screen at about 72-100 DPI and about 100% zoom does. Acrobat 4 uses downsampling instead of subsampling in this situation. Downsampling turns the above 16 pixels in to a single large 25% gray pixel, making the thin black line a wider gray line, but never deleting it entirely. This is about the best you can do with on-screen displays. Generally, screen shots and the like look much better on-screen in Acrobat 4 than in previous versions. We try to listen, but we are not always very good at explaining... /dick --=====================_169702118==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 03:09 PM 10/25/99 -0400, you wrote:
Thanks Cynthia.  The problem is one in the 3.02 viewer, and non-postscript printer drivers.  The images view poorly under 3.02, as they are aliased...but they print OK on postscript printers.  I haven't used the 4.0 viewer but many list members say the viewed images will be much better there.

Yes, use the free Acrobat 4.0 Reader. Prior to version 4.0, Acrobat used subsampling of images (such as screen shots) to display on your screen. For an original image with something like a thin black line and lots of pixels per inch, a portion of the original image might be this 4x4 square of pixels (.=white, X=black):
    . X . .
    . X . .
    . X . .
    . X . .

If this has to be displayed on-screen as a *single* pixel, previous versions of Acrobat would pick just ONE of those 16 pixels, say the upper left one (white). The thin vertical line would disappear entirely. At a slightly different zoom factor, a black pixel might be chosen, making a fat black line. Zooming to 400% or so shows no problems. Printing on a 300 DPI or better printer shows no problems. But display on-screen at about 72-100 DPI and about 100% zoom does.

Acrobat 4 uses downsampling instead of subsampling in this situation. Downsampling turns the above 16 pixels in to a single large 25% gray pixel, making the thin black line a wider gray line, but never deleting it entirely. This is about the best you can do with on-screen displays. Generally, screen shots and the like look much better on-screen in Acrobat 4 than in previous versions. We try to listen, but we are not always very good at explaining...
/dick --=====================_169702118==_.ALT-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 22:48:02-GMT,2607;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16961 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:48:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17950; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:41:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:39:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17773; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:39:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to Word Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:44:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Oooh, I hate this one... > Can someone recommend a best method for converting PDF > documents to MS Word? > There are hundreds maybe thousands of PDFs. The documents are > manuals with > text, line art and photos. The PDFs were created by Capture, > some of the > ACDs are available but not all. > Is it best to use the ACDs where available and output to MS > Word, or RTF? > Then, what to do with the rest of the PDFs where no ACD exists? First, forget the ACDs... Word output from ACD will cause you to remove your hair the hard way. If the PDFs are in good (I mean, REALLY GOOD) shape -- formatting, text boxes processed correctly, etc, then there are a variety of tools available (check the pdfzone.com) to get you into an RTF file, which is "acceptable" to MS Word. If the PDFs were poorly converted (the usual case), then it MAY behoove you to improve them in ACD first, re-output to PDF, and THEN process the files to RTF. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Oct-1999 22:48:40-GMT,2176;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16981 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:48:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18253; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:42:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:40:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17914; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:40:58 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991027152940.00bc5c40@mail-345> X-Sender: dsites@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:41:47 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dick Sites Subject: Fwd: [PDF] searching PDF files on the web Cc: marano@ICD.Teradyne.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:12:20 -0400 >From: marano@ICD.Teradyne.COM (Rosemary Marano (ICD Writers)) > ... >Does any one have a recommendation for Web search engines that support >searching >PDF files? There is a new Web search facility on www.adobe.com. Actually, it is on http://searchpdf.adobe.com This is an experiment to let you search through more than a million summaries of PDF files on the Web. Your search results will allow you to see the summaries before deciding to view the original PDF. /dick ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 2:30:49-GMT,2057;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22245 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:30:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04654; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:19:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:15:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04335; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:15:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3817B00D.CE872CE6@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:08:13 -0300 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] GotoNamedDestination - Acrobat 4. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, Have checked Padova book & Acrobat 4 On-line guide with no luck finding information on building gotoNamedDest. The On-line guide says to refer to PDF Reference Manual Version 1.3 for more details on named destinations and how to create them or pdfspec.pdf. Cant find said file under Acrobat. Could you help in finding this file? Where can I download. Thanks in advance for response. Robert Richard New Brunswick, Canada. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 2:39:28-GMT,2670;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22393 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:39:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05909; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:33:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:30:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA05516; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:30:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3817B7C4.15B6CF74@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:41:09 -0300 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] GotoNamedDestination - Acrobat 4. References: <3817B00D.CE872CE6@nbnet.nb.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Robert, > Have checked Padova book & Acrobat 4 On-line guide with no luck finding > information on building gotoNamedDest. The On-line guide says to refer > to PDF Reference Manual Version 1.3 for more details on named > destinations and how to create them or pdfspec.pdf. Cant find said file > under Acrobat. Could you help in finding this file? Where can I > download. The PDF Reference Manual is here: http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/DOCS/pdfspec.pdf If memory serves me right it should also be on your AA4 CDrom, but my memory is not always right ((-: The AA4 online guide does indeed contain all the instructions on how to create named destinations. I just read it the other day since I'm studying for my ACE re-certification. See page 245 and onward in the online guide. You may have searched for *named destinations*. The guide refers to them simply as *destinations*. That may be why your search failed. Drop me a note personally if you still have trouble. Good luck. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 5:27:01-GMT,1860;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA26012 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:27:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18543; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:18:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:13:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18212; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:13:54 -0500 From: Cybergrphx@aol.com Message-ID: <0.f5d1f66f.25493583@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:13:39 EDT Subject: [PDF] Deskewing software for Capture? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 170 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I've been trying to find some "reasonable" deskewing software for use with Capture, but all that I've come across are higher end packages that have a lot of features that we don't want or are entire Capture replacement products. Any suggestions? Thanks Rob Robertson Cybergraphix, Inc. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 7:22:28-GMT,2423;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28557 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:22:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26180; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:12:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:10:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25947; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:10:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199910280710.IAA04734@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 7:49:42 +0000 To: " pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: Re: [PDF] Deskewing software for Capture? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ RE>[PDF] Deskewing software for Capture? 28/10/99 Try www.doculex.com hope they can help. Stuart Slaney PDF SOLUTIONS- http://members.aol.com/pdfsol/pdfsolutions -------------------------------------- Date: 28/10/99 7:43 am To: Stuart Slaney From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I've been trying to find some "reasonable" deskewing software for use with Capture, but all that I've come across are higher end packages that have a lot of features that we don't want or are entire Capture replacement products. Any suggestions? Thanks Rob Robertson Cybergraphix, Inc. --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 7:59:19-GMT,2648;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29203 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:59:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29124; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:54:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:51:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28829; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:51:39 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:50:18 +0100 Message-ID: <003701bf2119$14893aa0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199910271402.HAA06058@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > Correct me if I'm wrong but, saving as "postscript level 2 and 3" > > will not allow a printer to separate colors from this EPS. Right? > > So I need to save as level 1 binary. Right? HELP! > > We do it every day. Export PDF files, as EPS Level 2. > Most rips are now either Level 2 or Level 3. Why would you > not be able to > separate an EPS file in Level 2, if you have a Level 2 rip? Take care - it all depends what is meant by "separate". Certainly, if you are using the current technology, it can colour separate anything. But many people still colour separate using Quark XPress. This is old technology and can only separate level 1 EPS files in CMYK. The same applies to any "on-host" system including Illustrator or PageMaker. On-host separation exists in a pre-1990 world where level 2 PostScript does not figure. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 8:20:11-GMT,4088;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29699 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:20:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA30546; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:15:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:10:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA30145; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:10:43 -0500 From: Sean.Woodward@wdr.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:05:06 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="BDY.TXT" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: BrianWare hpomsmf V2.3.40, 19 May 1999 X-WDR-Disclaimer: Version $Revision: 1.13 $ Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ please take me off this list Thanks -----Original Message----- From: listreader2 Sent: 28 October 1999 08:50 To: pdf Cc: listreader2 Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > Correct me if I'm wrong but, saving as "postscript level 2 and 3" > > will not allow a printer to separate colors from this EPS. Right? > > So I need to save as level 1 binary. Right? HELP! > > We do it every day. Export PDF files, as EPS Level 2. > Most rips are now either Level 2 or Level 3. Why would you > not be able to > separate an EPS file in Level 2, if you have a Level 2 rip? Take care - it all depends what is meant by "separate". Certainly, if you are using the current technology, it can colour separate anything. But many people still colour separate using Quark XPress. This is old technology and can only separate level 1 EPS files in CMYK. The same applies to any "on-host" system including Illustrator or PageMaker. On-host separation exists in a pre-1990 world where level 2 PostScript does not figure. 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This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 8:57:45-GMT,2343;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00400 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:57:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00455; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:52:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:49:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00112; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:49:26 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] GotoNamedDestination - Acrobat 4. Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:48:04 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01bf2121$26f82fe0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3817B00D.CE872CE6@nbnet.nb.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Have checked Padova book & Acrobat 4 On-line guide with no > luck finding > information on building gotoNamedDest. The On-line guide says to refer > to PDF Reference Manual Version 1.3 for more details on named > destinations and how to create them or pdfspec.pdf. Cant find > said file > under Acrobat. Could you help in finding this file? Where can I > download. Acrobat 4.0 does not ship with developer information, but it's all on Adobe's partners web site. http://partners.adobe.com/. PDFSpec.pdf is just the PDF Reference Manual. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 9:55:58-GMT,3725;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01557 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:55:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04390; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:50:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:47:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA04204; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:47:42 -0500 Message-ID: <002901bf212a$10d68320$214315a5@magix.com.sg> From: "Anthony Cheng" To: "PDF" Subject: [PDF] Indexes, Seach & Open/closing of files Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:51:53 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01BF216D.1EAEFE80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BF216D.1EAEFE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Does anyone knows how to load an index via JavaScript? How about clearing the buffer of the Search dialog box? You see, when = one types in a word to search the word remains in the dialog box even = after it's closed and opened once. Is there anyway to clear the word in = the search dialog box? Using JavaScript? Lastly, can javascript be used to close files? Let's say the file is = opened in the background, is there anyway to close the file via another = file check? Using JavaScript? SanD ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BF216D.1EAEFE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!
 
Does anyone knows how to load an index via=20 JavaScript?
 
How about clearing the buffer of the Search dialog = box? =20 You see, when one types in a word to search the word remains in the = dialog box=20 even after it's closed and opened once.  Is there anyway to clear = the word=20 in the search dialog box?  Using JavaScript?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BF216D.1EAEFE80-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 10:35:53-GMT,2181;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA02320 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:35:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07242; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 05:29:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 05:28:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07106; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 05:28:09 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Indexes, Seach & Open/closing of files Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:26:45 +0100 Message-ID: <004101bf212e$ef844ae0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002901bf212a$10d68320$214315a5@magix.com.sg> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Does anyone knows how to load an index via JavaScript? > How about clearing the buffer of the Search dialog box? > Lastly, can javascript be used to close files? JavaScript can't do any of those things. Remember, although it is a general purpose language, and has a certain amount of power, its main emphasis is to assist in the filling in of forms. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 11:44:38-GMT,2074;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03656 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 05:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12574; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:32:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:30:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12321; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:30:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.f5d1f66f.25493583@aol.com> References: <0.f5d1f66f.25493583@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:30:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] Deskewing software for Capture? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I've been trying to find some "reasonable" deskewing software for use with >Capture, but all that I've come across are higher end packages that have a >lot of features that we don't want or are entire Capture replacement products. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks > >Rob Robertson >Cybergraphix, Inc. How about ScanFix? http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_ScanFix.html Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 13:07:32-GMT,2204;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05324 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:07:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22084; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:00:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:59:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21851; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:58:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991028090524.009ac6b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:05:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991027151356.00bc3500@mail-345> References: <004501bf1f1c$79df83e0$fab38dcf@grumpy2.curtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We try to listen, but we are not always very good at explaining... /dick <<<<<<<< Adobe should let you explain more often, then, Dick. Clearest explanation of the situation I've ever read. Thanks. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 13:15:50-GMT,2713;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05533 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:15:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23188; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:09:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:07:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22995; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:07:56 -0500 Message-ID: <005a01bf2145$8d6a57c0$17c8ff96@dmd333015_nt> From: "Mark Goldin" To: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:08:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01BF211B.A3194880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01BF211B.A3194880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to convert some word(s) to the hyperlinks (weblinks) within an = existing document using VB or similar environment. Is that possible? Thanks Mark ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01BF211B.A3194880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd like to convert some word(s) to = the=20 hyperlinks (weblinks) within an existing document using VB or similar=20 environment. Is that possible?
Thanks = Mark
------=_NextPart_000_0057_01BF211B.A3194880-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 13:51:14-GMT,2064;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06339 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:51:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27300; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:44:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:42:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26992; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:42:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3818553F.7446033F@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:53:03 -0300 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] image quality and size problems from MSWord docs References: <004501bf1f1c$79df83e0$fab38dcf@grumpy2.curtech.com> <3.0.5.32.19991028090524.009ac6b0@pop.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We try to listen, but we are not always very good at explaining... > /dick > > <<<< > > Adobe should let you explain more often, then, Dick. > > Clearest explanation of the situation I've ever read. Thanks. > > Steve Rindsberg I definitely agree with Steve about that! Keep up the good work. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 14:27:16-GMT,2431;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07279 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:27:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31432; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:18:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:17:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31165; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:17:09 -0500 X-Sender: art1@mail.hpe.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:16:11 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Re-exporting EPS files on Mac To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Art Department Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rod, I too am converting PDF files to EPS for newspaper pagination and have received the "can't convert" message you received. I was told the solution just two days ago and it seems to work. In Acrobat, as you export as EPS, if you check "include RGB and Lab images" it will probably work. I usually take color PDFs (converted to EPS) into Quark for output and b/w PDFs (converted to EPS) into FreeHand (my application of choice!). I haven't had problems since this. It's a pain that the pagination systems can't accept PDF files which seem to be the going thing. Carol Brooks Coordinator of Electronic Advertising High Point Enterprise --------------------------------------------------- Carol Brooks, Coordinator of Electronic Advertising High Point Enterprise, High Point, N.C. (336) 888-3562 Direct HPE e-mail to: art1@hpe.com --------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 15:01:49-GMT,2073;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08165 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:01:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02610; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:55:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:53:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02426; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:53:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dourlain, Bernadette" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:41:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello! I hope someone can help... I have written a visual basic program to print our client invoices to files within directories from Excel. Now our client wants the files in PDF. I thought this would be no problem, but it seems there is no way to specify the name of the output file in visual basic code. Has anyone had a similar problem?? Is there a way around this? Thanks! Bernadette Dourlain Tetra Tech NUS Pittsburgh, PA 412.921.8494 dourlainb@ttnus.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 15:13:18-GMT,2352;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08477 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:13:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04056; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:08:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:06:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03896; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:06:43 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:05:18 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01bf2155$da3b0120$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Hello! I hope someone can help... I have written a visual > basic program to > print our client invoices to files within directories from > Excel. Now our > client wants the files in PDF. I thought this would be no > problem, but it > seems there is no way to specify the name of the output file > in visual basic > code. Has anyone had a similar problem?? Is there a way around this? You need specific PDF developer information. There is a PDFWriter Interface Guide in the Acrobat SDK. http://partners.adobe.com/ Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 15:13:37-GMT,2976;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08485 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:13:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04140; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:08:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:07:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04021; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:07:31 -0500 Message-ID: <007b01bf2156$41dcb2b0$17c8ff96@dmd333015_nt> From: "Mark Goldin" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:08:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Can you use PDF Writer printer driver to generate PDF files? Simply set your default printer to that one. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Dourlain, Bernadette To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:03 AM Subject: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Hello! I hope someone can help... I have written a visual basic program to >print our client invoices to files within directories from Excel. Now our >client wants the files in PDF. I thought this would be no problem, but it >seems there is no way to specify the name of the output file in visual basic >code. Has anyone had a similar problem?? Is there a way around this? > >Thanks! > >Bernadette Dourlain >Tetra Tech NUS >Pittsburgh, PA >412.921.8494 >dourlainb@ttnus.com > > >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 15:22:05-GMT,2960;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08739 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:22:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05217; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:16:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:15:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05066; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:15:47 -0500 Message-ID: <381868C3.A6EC9CF2@skios.es> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:16:19 +0200 From: Jose Enrique Ochoa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es]C-QXW04104 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Printing XPress with PDF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------882260BDA183B7863A4E4E43" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Este es un mensaje multipartes en formato MIME. --------------882260BDA183B7863A4E4E43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am printing one page XPress 4.0.4 Mac with a PDF file inside a picture box. The PDF is correct. In the RIP (Harlequin Level 2 for Fuji Celix 4000) the page fails with the message "Offending Command: 1023,34". Usually, I am making EPS from my PDF to put it inside picture boxes and never failed. But my hope of forget the EPS step dissapeared. Is it neccessary PostScript 3 to RIP this page? Is the PDF Filter Xtension from Quark.com a joke? Is there somebody out there? Jose E. Ochoa. Fotomecanica Ochoa. Madrid, SPAIN. --------------882260BDA183B7863A4E4E43 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Tarjeta de Jose Enrique Ochoa Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Jose Enrique Ochoa n: Ochoa;Jose Enrique org: Fotomecanica Ochoa adr: Julian Camarillo, 26;;;Madrid;Madrid;28037;Spain email;internet: ochoa@skios.es tel;work: 34.1.327.21.18 tel;fax: 34.1.754.28.83 x-mozilla-cpt: ;-1 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------882260BDA183B7863A4E4E43-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 15:36:08-GMT,2910;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09104 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:36:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06575; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:29:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:27:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06378; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:27:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dourlain, Bernadette" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:15:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Creating the file isn't the problem-it's naming it. Using the printout method in VB you cannot specify the output file name. I'm sure there is another way to do it, but I haven't figured it out... > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Goldin [SMTP:markgoldin@mediaone.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:08 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf > > > > Can you use PDF Writer printer driver to generate PDF files? Simply set > your > default printer to that one. > Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Dourlain, Bernadette > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:03 AM > Subject: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf > > > > > >Hello! I hope someone can help... I have written a visual basic program > to > >print our client invoices to files within directories from Excel. Now > our > >client wants the files in PDF. I thought this would be no problem, but > it > >seems there is no way to specify the name of the output file in visual > basic > >code. Has anyone had a similar problem?? Is there a way around this? > > > >Thanks! > > > >Bernadette Dourlain > >Tetra Tech NUS > >Pittsburgh, PA > >412.921.8494 > >dourlainb@ttnus.com > > > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 15:37:48-GMT,2645;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09136 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:37:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07057; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:32:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:31:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06720; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:31:01 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:32:47 +0100 From: "Huw Johnson" To: Subject: [PDF] Bitmap images Distiller 3 vs 4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA06715 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I just can't explain the following when distilling a 600dpi monochrome bitmap eps: Distiller 3.01 No downsample for monochrome images Manual Compression CCITT Group 4 PDF image looks good Quite a box of tricks Info button says PDF image is 600dpi Distiller 4.0 No resample for monochrome images Compression CCITT Group 4 PDF image is degraded Quite a box of tricks Info button says PDF image is 300dpi Both distillers set to make 1800dpi Acrobat 3.0 ASCII format PDF. I feel like I'm losing my marbles, but I swear the above information is correct. Any ideas appreciated, Huw Johnson Institute of Physics Publishing, UK ********************************************************************** IOP Publishing Ltd. Registered No 467514 England This e-mail message has been swept by MIMEsweeper using Sophos Sweep for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 15:48:56-GMT,3786;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09445 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:48:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08252; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:43:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:42:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08094; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:42:26 -0500 Message-ID: <008f01bf215b$22c29020$17c8ff96@dmd333015_nt> From: "Mark Goldin" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:43:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Right, that's why you have to use PDF Writer INI file. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Dourlain, Bernadette To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:37 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Creating the file isn't the problem-it's naming it. Using the printout >method in VB you cannot specify the output file name. I'm sure there is >another way to do it, but I haven't figured it out... > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Goldin [SMTP:markgoldin@mediaone.net] >> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:08 AM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: Re: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf >> >> >> >> Can you use PDF Writer printer driver to generate PDF files? Simply set >> your >> default printer to that one. >> Mark >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dourlain, Bernadette >> To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >> Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:03 AM >> Subject: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf >> >> >> > >> >Hello! I hope someone can help... I have written a visual basic program >> to >> >print our client invoices to files within directories from Excel. Now >> our >> >client wants the files in PDF. I thought this would be no problem, but >> it >> >seems there is no way to specify the name of the output file in visual >> basic >> >code. Has anyone had a similar problem?? Is there a way around this? >> > >> >Thanks! >> > >> >Bernadette Dourlain >> >Tetra Tech NUS >> >Pittsburgh, PA >> >412.921.8494 >> >dourlainb@ttnus.com >> > >> > >> > >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 16:01:20-GMT,3116;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09806 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:01:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09612; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:56:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:54:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09421; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:54:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dourlain, Bernadette" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:42:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand what that is or how that will help... can you enlighten me?? > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Goldin [SMTP:markgoldin@mediaone.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:43 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf > > > > Right, that's why you have to use PDF Writer INI file. > Mark > > From: Dourlain, Bernadette > > > >Creating the file isn't the problem-it's naming it. Using the printout > >method in VB you cannot specify the output file name. I'm sure there is > >another way to do it, but I haven't figured it out... > > > > >> From: Mark Goldin [SMTP:markgoldin@mediaone.net] > >> > >> Can you use PDF Writer printer driver to generate PDF files? Simply set > >> your > >> default printer to that one. > >> Mark > > >> From: Dourlain, Bernadette > >> > > >> >Hello! I hope someone can help... I have written a visual basic > program > >> to > >> >print our client invoices to files within directories from Excel. Now > >> our > >> >client wants the files in PDF. I thought this would be no problem, > but > >> it > >> >seems there is no way to specify the name of the output file in visual > >> basic > >> >code. Has anyone had a similar problem?? Is there a way around this? > >> > > >> >Thanks! > >> > > >> >Bernadette Dourlain > >> >Tetra Tech NUS > >> >Pittsburgh, PA > >> >412.921.8494 > >> >dourlainb@ttnus.com > >> > > >> > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 16:08:54-GMT,2766;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10057 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:08:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10486; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:04:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:02:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10313; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:02:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199910281602.JAA04311@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:02:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing XPress with PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: Jose Enrique Ochoa > I am printing one page XPress 4.0.4 Mac with a PDF file inside a picture > > box. The PDF is correct. In the RIP (Harlequin Level 2 for Fuji Celix > 4000) > the page fails with the message "Offending Command: 1023,34". > > Usually, I am making EPS from my PDF to put it inside picture boxes and > never failed. But my hope of forget the EPS step dissapeared. > > Is it neccessary PostScript 3 to RIP this page? > > Is the PDF Filter Xtension from Quark.com a joke? The PDF Import/Export filter beta 1.3 will not work with Acrobat 4-compatible files. An Acrobat 3-compatible PDF should separate properly. This will be fixed, supposedly, with Quark 4.1, to be released shortly. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 16:20:14-GMT,4068;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10434 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11500; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:13:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:11:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11244; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:11:51 -0500 Message-ID: <00a801bf215f$3eac4430$17c8ff96@dmd333015_nt> From: "Mark Goldin" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:12:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PWriter uses its own INI file. You can find id in \system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\2 In that file you can specify file's name. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Dourlain, Bernadette To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:04 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Please excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand what that is or how that >will help... can you enlighten me?? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark Goldin [SMTP:markgoldin@mediaone.net] >> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:43 AM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: Re: [PDF] using visual basic to print to pdf >> >> >> >> Right, that's why you have to use PDF Writer INI file. >> Mark >> >> From: Dourlain, Bernadette >> > >> >Creating the file isn't the problem-it's naming it. Using the printout >> >method in VB you cannot specify the output file name. I'm sure there is >> >another way to do it, but I haven't figured it out... >> > >> >> >> From: Mark Goldin [SMTP:markgoldin@mediaone.net] >> >> >> >> Can you use PDF Writer printer driver to generate PDF files? Simply set >> >> your >> >> default printer to that one. >> >> Mark >> >> >> From: Dourlain, Bernadette >> >> > >> >> >Hello! I hope someone can help... I have written a visual basic >> program >> >> to >> >> >print our client invoices to files within directories from Excel. Now >> >> our >> >> >client wants the files in PDF. I thought this would be no problem, >> but >> >> it >> >> >seems there is no way to specify the name of the output file in visual >> >> basic >> >> >code. Has anyone had a similar problem?? Is there a way around this? >> >> > >> >> >Thanks! >> >> > >> >> >Bernadette Dourlain >> >> >Tetra Tech NUS >> >> >Pittsburgh, PA >> >> >412.921.8494 >> >> >dourlainb@ttnus.com >> >> > >> >> > >> > >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 16:52:20-GMT,2054;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11311 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:52:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14212; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:39:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:35:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13887; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:35:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:37:55 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Funky output from PDF files From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" To: PDF mailing list Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991028163515.GGN347.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sometimes when I open a PDF and print out of Acrobat, the image prints out too big. Like about 130% too big. This only happens with a few client ads. Are they saving (or Distilling) them wrong? They might be PC files also, I'm not sure. I'm strictly Mac (of course). Even when I go to Page Set up they don't reduce in size any. Roderick, rodkabel@bpcdm.com Art Director BPC 515-288-3336 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 16:55:51-GMT,2447;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11514 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:55:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15514; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:51:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:48:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15270; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:48:36 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:41:08 -0700 From: John D Fisk To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Multiple Stamp Annotations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Here's what I am trying to do. I take a word document, convert it to PDF, slap a scanned cover page on it, and then try and stamp two custom stamps onto the scanned cover page. What normally happens is, the second stamp displays all crammed together or has other font problems. But, the wierd thing is, this does not happen all the time. I have tried "capturing" the scanned front page. I have also tried extracting the scanned front page and placing the two stamps on it, and then inserting it back into my original pdf. Sometimes this works, and sometimes it does not. On occasion, besides "cramming" the text of the stamps together, this process also corrupts the rest of the pages of the pdf file as well. (garbled, crammed together text on all succeeding pages of the pdf file) Has anybody else ever seen anything like this? What do I have to do to remedy this? Thanks, John fiskjd@nv.doe.gov ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 18:15:07-GMT,3162;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13887 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:15:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23907; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:08:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:07:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23767; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:07:32 -0500 Message-ID: <38189170.4316903D@home.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:09:52 -0400 From: Jill Sangster Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Error in opening PDF files from Explorer References: <001101bf216a$55c3ab80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C0878B3CEC0B5E6EA715B9AC" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --------------C0878B3CEC0B5E6EA715B9AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Problem: When double-clicking on PDF files to open them, I am getting a dialogue box stating "There was an error opening the document. The files does not exist." The file will not open in Acrobat 4, however, if I use the File/Open option, it will open in Acrobat 4. I have set up windows to open all PDFs in Acrobat 4. Don't understand why, all of a sudden, I am getting this error message. All suggestions, comments, troubleshooting welcome. Jill Sangster mailto:jdsangster@home.com --------------C0878B3CEC0B5E6EA715B9AC Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Problem:  When double-clicking on PDF files to open them, I am getting a dialogue box stating "There was an error opening the document. The files does not exist."  The file will not open in Acrobat 4, however, if I use the File/Open option, it will open in Acrobat 4.

I have set up windows to open all PDFs in Acrobat 4. Don't understand why, all of a sudden, I am getting this error message.

All suggestions, comments, troubleshooting welcome.

Jill Sangster

mailto:jdsangster@home.com
 
  --------------C0878B3CEC0B5E6EA715B9AC-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 18:32:30-GMT,4942;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14344 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:32:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26204; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:27:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:26:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26042; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:26:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:28:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991028182604.IDQ347.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ OK, so now I'm confused again. Are you guys doing this on purpose? ha! So, to get color to sep out of Quark: Distill as Acrobat 3, level 1? And If going to a high end RIP make sure my printer can output as level 2 when sending a PDF file to separate? Rdoercki ---------- >From: "Rich Sprague" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac >Date: Thu, Oct 28, 1999, 12:46 PM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > >>From: "Aandi Inston" >> >>> > Correct me if I'm wrong but, saving as "postscript level 2 and 3" >>> > will not allow a printer to separate colors from this EPS. Right? >>> > So I need to save as level 1 binary. Right? HELP! >>> >>> We do it every day. Export PDF files, as EPS Level 2. >>> Most rips are now either Level 2 or Level 3. Why would you >>> not be able to >>> separate an EPS file in Level 2, if you have a Level 2 rip? >> >> Take care - it all depends what is meant by "separate". >> >> Certainly, if you are using the current technology, it can colour >> separate anything. But many people still colour separate using >> Quark XPress. This is old technology and can only separate >> level 1 EPS files in CMYK. The same applies to any "on-host" >> system including Illustrator or PageMaker. On-host separation >> exists in a pre-1990 world where level 2 PostScript does not >> figure. > > I went to my *expert* staff with this question. Here is what I was told: > > 1* We can import a PDF-exported Level 2 EPS file in Quark, and print as a > composite to either of our imagesetters (both Agfa), and let the rip > separate it. > > 2* We cannot import a PDF-exported Level 2 EPS file in Quark, and separate > from the application to our rip. > > 3* We can import a PDF-exported Level 1 EPS file in Quark, and either print > a composite to the rip or separate from Quark. If we separate from Quark, > black overprint *will not be* retained. > > To further muck up the works... > > 4* We can import a PDF-exported Level 2 EPS file from Quark, and print a > composite to our rip that powers our Heidelberg Quickmaster DI. > > Confused? Don't be. > > Aandi is right, but his answer needs clarification. Bottom line. You cannot > print color separations of a Level 2 EPS directly from Quark. You can get > around the problem if you print a composite file and have In-Rip separating > capability. > > Let's move on to Level 3 issues, and see how well we do. > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress > (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing > (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting > rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 18:32:31-GMT,3012;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14349 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:32:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25885; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:24:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:22:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25675; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:22:57 -0500 Message-ID: <381896EC.302BB87E@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:33:16 -0300 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Error in opening PDF files from Explorer References: <001101bf216a$55c3ab80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <38189170.4316903D@home.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jill,

You're certainly not alone. I consistently get this same problem, and not only with Acrobat and have been trying everything I know to solve it for nearly 5 years now, but no luck.
Unfortunately I don't have a solution for you.
All I can suspect is that something nasty is happening in the Registry, perhaps from a badly behaving or malicious app.
It doesn't matter how many times you reconfigure windows, sooner or later (usually sooner) it reverts back to this foolish behavior.

Wish I could help you more.

Bryan Guignard
 
 
 

Jill Sangster wrote:

The Problem:  When double-clicking on PDF files to open them, I am getting a dialogue box stating "There was an error opening the document. The files does not exist."  The file will not open in Acrobat 4, however, if I use the File/Open option, it will open in Acrobat 4.

I have set up windows to open all PDFs in Acrobat 4. Don't understand why, all of a sudden, I am getting this error message.

All suggestions, comments, troubleshooting welcome.

Jill Sangster

mailto:jdsangster@home.com
 
 

___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 18:34:59-GMT,2653;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14426 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:34:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAB26495; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:29:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:28:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26362; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:28:51 -0500 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Error in opening PDF files from Explorer Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:35:45 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <381896EC.302BB87E@nbnet.nb.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Could it be related to long path names? Could it be so that you can double click on PDFs for which the complete path does not contain spaces? What I mean is that doubleclicking a file: c:\test\test.pdf would work, while c:\test with space\test.pdf would not work? Or does it consistently not work? David. -------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Software Development Manager Enfocus Software ----------------------------------------- Web: http://www.enfocus.com Email: davidvd@enfocus.be ----------------------------------------- Ha sempre alguem -------------------------------------------- You're certainly not alone. I consistently get this same problem, and not only with Acrobat and have been trying everything I know to solve it for nearly 5 years now, but no luck. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 18:41:34-GMT,2611;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14625 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:41:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27274; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:35:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:34:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27135; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:34:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199910281834.LAA09020@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:34:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" > OK, so now I'm confused again. > Are you guys doing this on purpose? ha! You bet. > So, to get color to sep out of Quark: Using a PDF... > Distill as Acrobat 3, Using Quark to separate an EPS, exported from a PDF, choose... > level 1? > And If you Export a Level 2 EPS from a PDF and import it into Quark, > If going to a high end RIP make sure my printer can output > as level 2 when sending a PDF file to separate? ...and print as a composite and have in-rip separating capabilities. > > Rdoercki Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 16:58:52-GMT,2084;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11593 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:58:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15927; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:54:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:51:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15543; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:51:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199910281651.JAA09020@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:53:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Funky output from PDF files From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Sometimes when I open a PDF and print out of Acrobat, > the image prints out too big. Like about 130% too big. > This only happens with a few client ads. See if the "Fit to Page" box in the File/Print menu item has been checked. This will scale the output automatically. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 17:28:32-GMT,2825;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12525 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18912; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:22:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:20:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18619; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:20:09 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:22:26 -0500 Subject: [PDF] YOU ALL ROCK! Funky output from PDF files From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991028171945.HCF347.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ YOU ARE KING!!!!!!!! Tell your boss I have approved your raise! Thanks much! Roderick ---------- >From: "C. Scott Miller" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Funky output from PDF files >Date: Thu, Oct 28, 1999, 11:53 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > >> Sometimes when I open a PDF and print out of Acrobat, >> the image prints out too big. Like about 130% too big. >> This only happens with a few client ads. > > See if the "Fit to Page" box in the File/Print menu item has been checked. > This will scale the output automatically. > > -- > HTH, > C. Scott Miller > > PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n > A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format > http://www.pdfresearch.com > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 17:39:55-GMT,2026;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12856 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:39:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20287; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:34:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:33:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20170; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:33:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Funky output from PDF files Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:31:56 +0100 Message-ID: <001101bf216a$55c3ab80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19991028163515.GGN347.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Sometimes when I open a PDF and print out of Acrobat, > the image prints out too big. Like about 130% too big. > This only happens with a few client ads. Usual cause: "fit to page" is switched in your print dialog. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 17:54:36-GMT,3974;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13245 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21639; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:48:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:46:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21483; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:46:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199910281746.KAA07527@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:46:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: "Aandi Inston" > >> > Correct me if I'm wrong but, saving as "postscript level 2 and 3" >> > will not allow a printer to separate colors from this EPS. Right? >> > So I need to save as level 1 binary. Right? HELP! >> >> We do it every day. Export PDF files, as EPS Level 2. >> Most rips are now either Level 2 or Level 3. Why would you >> not be able to >> separate an EPS file in Level 2, if you have a Level 2 rip? > > Take care - it all depends what is meant by "separate". > > Certainly, if you are using the current technology, it can colour > separate anything. But many people still colour separate using > Quark XPress. This is old technology and can only separate > level 1 EPS files in CMYK. The same applies to any "on-host" > system including Illustrator or PageMaker. On-host separation > exists in a pre-1990 world where level 2 PostScript does not > figure. I went to my *expert* staff with this question. Here is what I was told: 1* We can import a PDF-exported Level 2 EPS file in Quark, and print as a composite to either of our imagesetters (both Agfa), and let the rip separate it. 2* We cannot import a PDF-exported Level 2 EPS file in Quark, and separate from the application to our rip. 3* We can import a PDF-exported Level 1 EPS file in Quark, and either print a composite to the rip or separate from Quark. If we separate from Quark, black overprint *will not be* retained. To further muck up the works... 4* We can import a PDF-exported Level 2 EPS file from Quark, and print a composite to our rip that powers our Heidelberg Quickmaster DI. Confused? Don't be. Aandi is right, but his answer needs clarification. Bottom line. You cannot print color separations of a Level 2 EPS directly from Quark. You can get around the problem if you print a composite file and have In-Rip separating capability. Let's move on to Level 3 issues, and see how well we do. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 19:24:42-GMT,2857;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16016 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:24:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31579; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:17:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:14:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31334; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:14:56 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Error in opening PDF files from Explorer Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:16:37 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf2178$f500b680$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <381896EC.302BB87E@nbnet.nb.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > When double-clicking on PDF files to > open them, I am getting a dialogue box > stating "There was an error opening the > document. The files does not exist." > The file will not open in Acrobat 4, > however, if I use the File/Open option, > it will open in Acrobat 4. This can be a problem if things are not set up correctly and there is a space in the path of the file. To check that things are set up correctly, check the PDF file type using Windows Explorer: View > (Folder) Options > File Types > Adobe Acrobat Document > Actions > Open > Edit > Application used to perform action (whew!) It should say something like (quotes included): "C:\Acrobat4\Acrobat\Acrobat.exe" "%1" You will get the problem you are experiencing if there are no quotes around the %1 or if it is missing altogether (most likely). Another place to check is the DDE Message Box. It should be: [FileOpenEx("%1")] although is doesn't sound like this is your problem. I don't know why things get out of whack, but a number of folks do report this. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 19:27:47-GMT,2332;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16091 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:27:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31905; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:20:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:19:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31742; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:19:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting EPS files from a Mac Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:17:54 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01bf2179$23676000$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19991028182604.IDQ347.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > So, to get color to sep out of Quark: > Distill as Acrobat 3, level 1? Where would you distill as level 1? What matters is to choose level 1 in the EPS export from Exchange. > And > If going to a high end RIP make sure my printer can output > as level 2 when sending a PDF file to separate? No. Most RIPs these days are level 2. You need to establish what technology (software, RIP etc.) your printer intends to use to do the colour separations. If they are doing on-host separation you must make level 1 EPS files. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 20:13:02-GMT,1909;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17410 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:13:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04090; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:07:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:05:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03905; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:05:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3818AD02.85BFA797@home.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:07:30 -0400 From: Jill Sangster Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Error in opening PDF files from Explorer References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I eliminated spaces in the parent directory filename and still have the problem with opening PDFs from Explorer. Good suggestion, though. Thanks. mailto:jdsangster@home.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 20:18:52-GMT,2062;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17553 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:18:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04992; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:13:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:12:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04788; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:12:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3818AEA6.69A102A7@home.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:14:30 -0400 From: Jill Sangster Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Error in opening PDF files from Explorer References: <000001bf2178$f500b680$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Accolades to George Johnson. Your suggestion was successful. Many thanks. I've been working with Acrobat 4 since it was released and this is the first time I've had problems. Go figure! The "%1" was missing from the string. How that happened, I guess I'll never know. Thanks, again, Jill Sangster mailto:jdsangster@home.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 20:46:52-GMT,2365;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18409 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:46:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08008; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:40:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:38:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07817; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:38:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:38:27 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] Re: [ctpp] Distiller 4 FAILS to Embed Fonts! To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199910281638_MC2-8AD8-631A@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA07813 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >If one wants to point the finger, it should be towards Macromedia, as Fontographer has caused a great deal of the font mess. Rich< I agree with Rich. Honor the intent of the law. If there is ambiguity in the interpretation, fix the words so the lawyers clearly understand which way to sway. And vendors who do not understand the implications of weak or misunderstood code/rules should go back and clean up their own mess. Do not rely on someone else to overcome your weakness. Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown) mvorel@compuserve.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 21:42:46-GMT,2283;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20043 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:42:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13894; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:31:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:30:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13633; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:30:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com'" Subject: [PDF] PCL to PDF conversion Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:29:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Has anyone here used either of the following products for converting PCL to PDF? - PCL2PDF from Visual Software - PCL2PDF from PageTech (Yes, that's correct: the products are from two different companies but the product names are identical.) Any feedback about these products will be appreciated. Also, if anybody knows about other PCL-to-PDF-conversion software, I'd like to hear about it. Regards, - Cynthia Leslie Cynthia.leslie@citationsoftware.com www.citationsoftware.com 508-347-5756 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 21:44:25-GMT,2611;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20126 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:44:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14450; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:34:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:33:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14294; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:33:39 -0500 Message-ID: <337AB4CBC637D3118ABB006008C5F7B608EC3A@pvexchange.petrovend.com> From: Tom Robinson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Pages not printing SOLVED (I think...) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:30:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My problem earlier this week: > Using Acrobat 4 Distiller, I've converted a 28-page Word doc into a > approximately 500k "Print-Optimized" PDF. When I send it through a PS driver > to a HP 8100 printer, only the first two pages (front cover and license > notice inside the cover) print! It's like the rest of the PDF file is > ignored. > > When I use the PCL driver on the same printer, all pages print but far more > slowly. For some reason I tried creating the PDF using Word's "Create Adobo PDF" plug-in (in File pulldown). Turned ON 3.0 compatibility and turned OFF Print Optimization and guess what? The whole book now prints! I'd never had good luck with that plug-in before; it seemed to crash Distiller arbitrarily. WHY does "Create Adobe PDF" option create a PDF that prints to a PostScript printer entirely, but simply printing to Distiller does NOT? Are the drivers different when going thru Word's Acrobat plug-in? Or did my enabling 3.0 compatibility do it? Curiouser and curiouser.... Tom Robinson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Oct-1999 21:58:10-GMT,2302;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20574 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:58:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16540; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:52:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:51:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16247; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:51:20 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9C8E@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PCL to PDF conversion Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:51:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ One that I have evaluated is Sys-PCL, from Sys-Print Inc. Sys-Print offers a high volume, production speed transfer of PCL data to PDF. It's rather pricey (I was quoted a price of $20K in June). Home page: http://www.sysprint.com/pcl.html E-mail: mailto:sales@sysprint.com Hope this helps, Gary Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station "A company with energy" Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com > ---------- > From: Leslie, Cynthia[SMTP:Cynthia.Leslie@compaq.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 4:29 PM > Subject: [PDF] PCL to PDF conversion > > Also, if anybody knows about other PCL-to-PDF-conversion software, I'd > like > to hear about it. > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 0:08:05-GMT,2843;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24467 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:08:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28219; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:00:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:56:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27717; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:56:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3818E500.78657089@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:06:24 -0300 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Error in opening PDF files from Explorer References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F6AB2EBE1582BB47A57AD54B" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F6AB2EBE1582BB47A57AD54B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Could it be related to long path names? Could it be so that you can double > click on PDFs for which the complete path does not contain spaces? What I > mean is that doubleclicking a file: Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, no luck. At this point in the game I'm willing to try anything but I won't dwell on it here since it more than likely is a Windows problem. Bryan --------------F6AB2EBE1582BB47A57AD54B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="bryang.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Bryan Guignard Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bryang.vcf" begin:vcard n:Guignard;Bryan x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;42 Edward Street;Moncton;New Brunswick;E1A 3Y7;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:bryang@nbnet.nb.ca title:Adobe Certified Expert note;quoted-printable:The PDF Expert=0D=0AGraphic Designer=0D=0ADigital Jack of all trades x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Bryan Guignard end:vcard --------------F6AB2EBE1582BB47A57AD54B-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 6:30:32-GMT,4387;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28054 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:30:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26615; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:21:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:18:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA26370; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:18:16 -0500 Message-ID: <38193C6C.EC432140@skios.es> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:19:24 +0200 From: Jose Enrique Ochoa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es]C-QXW04104 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing XPress with PDF References: <199910281602.JAA04311@sun630mp.infomania.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------841694513B7270157DC95487" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Este es un mensaje multipartes en formato MIME. --------------841694513B7270157DC95487 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rich Sprague escribió: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > >From: Jose Enrique Ochoa > > > I am printing one page XPress 4.0.4 Mac with a PDF file inside a picture > > > > box. The PDF is correct. In the RIP (Harlequin Level 2 for Fuji Celix > > 4000) > > the page fails with the message "Offending Command: 1023,34". > > > > Usually, I am making EPS from my PDF to put it inside picture boxes and > > never failed. But my hope of forget the EPS step dissapeared. > > > > Is it neccessary PostScript 3 to RIP this page? > > > > Is the PDF Filter Xtension from Quark.com a joke? > > The PDF Import/Export filter beta 1.3 will not work with Acrobat > 4-compatible files. An Acrobat 3-compatible PDF should separate properly. > > This will be fixed, supposedly, with Quark 4.1, to be released shortly. > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress > (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing > (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting > rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks a lot. My fault was that I distill on a PC with the preference Acrbat 3 compatible selected, but later, the PDF is opened on a Mac with Acrobat 4. Almost sure, my problem will be solved with your help. Regards. Jose E. Ochoa. Fotomecánica Ochoa. Madrid, SPAIN. --------------841694513B7270157DC95487 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Tarjeta de Jose Enrique Ochoa Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Jose Enrique Ochoa n: Ochoa;Jose Enrique org: Fotomecanica Ochoa adr: Julian Camarillo, 26;;;Madrid;Madrid;28037;Spain email;internet: ochoa@skios.es tel;work: 34.1.327.21.18 tel;fax: 34.1.754.28.83 x-mozilla-cpt: ;-1 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------841694513B7270157DC95487-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 12:38:09-GMT,2160;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29597 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 06:38:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19193; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:30:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:27:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19023; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:27:52 -0500 Message-ID: <256D3BBC391CD311896600805F9F4C02022616D3@mlnt1s.imf.org> From: "Hatton, Jeffrey" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] web capturing Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:27:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have been using the Web Capture feature of 4.0 to capture pages from our various internet and intranet sites. The newly created PDFs look beautiful in 4.0. However, letters and words seem to "drop out" randomly when the same PDFs are viewed in Reader v. 3. The letters are just plain missing. Nothing else is different except for these missing letters. Has anyone else run into this? Any Web Capture experts want to hazard a guess? We have a large base of users running reader 3.0. They will not be upgrading to 4.0 for another month or two. Thanks, Jeff ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 12:47:37-GMT,2824;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29680 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 06:47:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20389; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:42:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:41:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20200; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <38199875.38ADD211@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:52:05 -0300 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] web capturing References: <256D3BBC391CD311896600805F9F4C02022616D3@mlnt1s.imf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jeff, > We have been using the Web Capture feature of 4.0 to capture pages from our > various internet and intranet sites. The newly created PDFs look beautiful > in 4.0. However, letters and words seem to "drop out" randomly when the same > PDFs are viewed in Reader v. 3. The letters are just plain missing. Nothing > else is different except for these missing letters. I've worked with the Acro Spider a lot already, but I can't say for sure what is causing you grief. Maybe the fact that Adobe's base fonts are different for version 3 and 4? Are you using base fonts when capturing the web pages? That might be doing it, but I'm just guessing at this point. I've also noticed that setting up all the conversion options for the Acro Spider to work effectively with certain types of web pages is a bit tricky. I can't explain it yet, but it causes problems at time that are similar to what you describe except they occur in Acrobat 4 itself (missing letters and words usually at the end of lines). Actually I believe this is probably due to unusual or sloppy HTML code which the Acro Spider may have trouble dealing with. Hope this helps. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 13:20:35-GMT,2964;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29853 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:20:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23513; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:14:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:13:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23407; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:13:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38199875.38ADD211@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <256D3BBC391CD311896600805F9F4C02022616D3@mlnt1s.imf.org> <38199875.38ADD211@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:16:04 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] web capturing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA23403 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9:52 AM -0300 10/29/99, Bryan Guignard wrote: >I've also noticed that setting up all the conversion options for the >Acro Spider >to work effectively with >certain types of web pages is a bit tricky. I can't explain it yet, but it >causes problems at time that are similar to what you describe except >they occur >in Acrobat 4 itself (missing letters and words usually at the end of lines). >Actually I believe this is probably due to unusual or sloppy HTML >code which the >Acro Spider may have trouble >dealing with. > > More likely related to people using HTML 4 (and things like CSS) on their web page that AcroSpider doesn't currently support. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 13:36:42-GMT,2096;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29991 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:36:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25081; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:30:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:28:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24923; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:28:39 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] web capturing In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:16:04 EDT." Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:28:34 +0100 Message-ID: <7214.941203714@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA24919 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:16:04 EDT, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > More likely related to people using HTML 4 (and things like > CSS) on their web page that AcroSpider doesn't currently support. Ah, I've been wondering if it supported CSS! Thanks for the info, I shall stick with html2ps and Acrobat 3... Cheers, Chris ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 14:04:20-GMT,2807;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00266 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:04:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27917; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:58:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:57:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27800; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:57:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:05:13 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: [PDF] Weird problem when copying text out of PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have a weird problem with text copied out of a PDF file (when in Acrobat Reader 4.0) and copied into either Word or WordPerfect: All the text with the typeface Times Bold appears duplicated four times in the word processor file. The typeface is a Type 1 font. It is a true bold typeface, not an applied bold. The original document was produced in PageMaker 6.5 and the PDF produced using PageMaker's export to PDF function and Distiller 4.0. All fonts were embedded with subsetting set to 100%. All the other copied text appears fine in the word processing documents. thanks for any thoughts Susan ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education 4200 East University blvd. Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH 45042 http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ To send me a voice message, go to http://pagoo.com/me.asp?5134236948 ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 14:27:26-GMT,2609;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00596 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:27:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30013; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:20:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:19:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29911; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:19:14 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:17:02 +0000 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-28-99 [V2 #651] From: "Paul Scaife" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: owner-pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com (pdf-digest) >To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: pdf-digest for October-28-99 [V2 #651] >Date: Thu, Oct 28, 1999, 11:56 pm > >>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:12:20 -0400 >>From: marano@ICD.Teradyne.COM (Rosemary Marano (ICD Writers)) >> ... >>Does any one have a recommendation for Web search engines that support >>searching >>PDF files? > We're just about to put 300 issues of a music magazine online in searchable format. We asked DesignUK (0171 539 8357) to come up with a solution and they found something called DTSearch which was far cheaper than many other solutions. Should be live within two weeks. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------- The Tip Sheet, 36 Baker Street, London W1M 1DG, UK Tel: +44 (0)171 935 1660 Fax: +44 (0)171 224 3150 WWW: www.tipsheet.co.uk AOL: TipSheet -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 14:31:39-GMT,1966;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00634 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:31:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30618; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:25:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:24:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30500; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:24:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199910291424.JAA30490@everglades.binc.net> From: "Kitchen, James x1298" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Error message Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:23:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I am using Word 97 Master document to create a manual with colour pictures. If I use the PDFMaker plugin and try usind Distiller, creating bookmarks. It goes all the way through till the end and then returns the message %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: CY- ]%% Please help I am using Windows98,Acrobat 4.0, Word97(master document), Distiller 4.3.1 (059). James Kitchen GENICOM A Printer Solutions Company ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 16:56:36-GMT,2025;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02820 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:56:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11244; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:46:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:43:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10975; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:43:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:43:33 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] Embedding Virus Code To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199910291243_MC2-8AF3-42CF@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA10971 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Are there any articles or occurrences of virus code embedded in postscript files or PDF files. One of the investment banks is distributing an articlecreated in Feb 1998 of Trojan Virus code executing from a PDF file. Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown) mvorel@compuserve.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 17:15:34-GMT,3708;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03058 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:15:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13283; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:08:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:06:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13125; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:06:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:11:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199910291711.KAA05013@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <199910291243_MC2-8AF3-42CF@compuserve.com> (message from Michael Vorel on Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:43:33 -0400) Subject: Re: [PDF] Embedding Virus Code References: <199910291243_MC2-8AF3-42CF@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Are there any articles or occurrences of virus code embedded > in postscript files or PDF files. > > One of the investment banks is distributing an articlecreated in Feb 1998 > of Trojan Virus code executing from a PDF file. There was a posting here a couple of days ago either here or on the PDF developers' list about this subject for PDF files. The short answer is that PDF files, unlike files from Microsoft Word and similar proprietary Microsoft formats that can contain executable attachments or macros, cannot contain harmful executable code -- the format simply doesn't have this concept. PDF files can contain two constructs that cause code to be executed: 1) Links that AFTER USER CONFIRMATION can launch applications ALREADY EXISTING ON THE USER'S SYSTEM. 2) JavaScript code that (according to the previous poster here) cannot access the filesystem at all. Also, if your PDF reader has plug-ins installed, they may introduce security holes as well, since they do NOT intrinsically require user confirmation. I'm not familiar with the common plug-ins, so I can't speak to this. PostScript code is a different story, since PostScript does have operations for accessing the file system. I don't know what Acrobat Distiller does when it encounters one of these operations in a PostScript file, but if it executes it, that is a severe security hole. Ghostscript, which is probably the most widely used desktop PostScript interpreter (and which also includes a Distiller-like capability called ps2pdf), has a command line switch -dSAFER that disables all attempts to write, delete, or rename files (other than the output file in the case of ps2pdf). It is easy to make this the default. I do not know of any instance of a virus in a PostScript file, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 17:24:48-GMT,3463;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03252 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:24:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13921; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:13:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:12:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13759; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:12:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding Virus Code Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:11:17 +0100 Message-ID: <001501bf2230$9d46ca20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199910291243_MC2-8AF3-42CF@compuserve.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Are there any articles or occurrences of virus code embedded > in postscript files or PDF files. > > One of the investment banks is distributing an articlecreated > in Feb 1998 > of Trojan Virus code executing from a PDF file. A virus (self-replicating code) has always been impossible. However, a damaging PDF has been possible with PDF. Too much emphasis is placed on anti-virus software, as they offer no protection from damaging software - only from viruses. What opportunities does a PDF file have to cause damage? 1. It can execute external commands. This is a serious loophole which was closed with Acrobat Reader 3.01. Starting with that release, a warning message is issued for each external command. (Users can choose to ignore the message). 2. PDF itself is a description of shapes and text. It is not executable, so there is no opportunity for damage. 3. Some people attack weaknesses in software. For instance, by sending e-mail messages with very long, specific, subject strings, they might overwrite memory and cause damage. Bugs are not impossible, but the structure of PDF is so well defined and simple that it is extremely unlikely any such loophole can be uncovered. 4. PDF files can contain JavaScript, which is a full programming language. However, it is deliberately limited to its own environment. There are no pointers, unchecked arrays, unchecked casts, file system operators, system escapes, or network calls.c 5. PDF files can contain PostScript fragments. These could exploit any potential security weaknesses in PostScript. However, since most PostScript executes in the context of a printer, there is little there to damage. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 18:23:22-GMT,2258;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04192 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:23:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19281; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:09:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:08:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19151; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:08:26 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding Virus Code Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:10:06 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bf2238$d47343e0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-reply-to: <001501bf2230$9d46ca20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > What opportunities does a PDF file have to cause damage? What about file annotations? I see the issue as the same as with e-mail attachments, although Acrobat at least issues a warning. The problem is you can disable the warning for subsequent file annotations. I understand that the annotation cannot be opened without user manually activating it (normally, at least), but are there other issues to be concerned about with file annotations? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 18:23:33-GMT,2428;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04200 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:23:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19182; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:08:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:06:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18867; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:06:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393B4D@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing XPress with PDF Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:04:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The PDF Import/Export filter beta 1.3 will not work with Acrobat 4-compatible files. An Acrobat 3-compatible PDF should separate properly. This will be fixed, supposedly, with Quark 4.1, to be released shortly. Rich List, I just wanted to clarify a response by Rich yesterday regarding the PDF Filter that will ship with QuarkXPress 4.1. The PDF Filter Imports version 1.2 PDFs from Acrobat 3 & 4. (Since we utilize the Placed PDF 1.0 Library, licensed from Adobe for import of PDF, we are unable at this time QuarkXPress version 4.1 to import version 1.3 PDFs. Quark has contacted Adobe for licensing information on the new PDF library, and if we are successful in licensing the new version, we will be able to update our PDF Filter to handle version 1.3 PDFs). Hope this clears up any questions regarding Quark's PDF Filter. Todd ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 18:53:14-GMT,3397;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04623 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:53:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22757; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:43:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:41:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22463; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <256D3BBC391CD311896600805F9F4C02022616E9@mlnt1s.imf.org> From: "Hatton, Jeffrey" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] web capturing Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:41:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ For those who were interested the web capture issue, the following solution was provided by Adobe (thanks to Dick Sweet and Dick Sites): Go into the "Conversion Settings" dialog, double click on HTML settings, go to the "Fonts" panel and click on Choose Font for Body Text. This will bring up a "Choose Font" window. From looking at the file, I'm guessing yours is currently set at Times New Roman. Please change this to Times-Roman. This will cause the conversion code to use the "built-in" Times-Roman that the 3.0 viewer knows about rather than using Times New Roman and imbedding a subset of the font into the document. -----Original Message----- From: Hatton, Jeffrey [mailto:JHatton@imf.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 8:28 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] web capturing The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have been using the Web Capture feature of 4.0 to capture pages from our various internet and intranet sites. The newly created PDFs look beautiful in 4.0. However, letters and words seem to "drop out" randomly when the same PDFs are viewed in Reader v. 3. The letters are just plain missing. Nothing else is different except for these missing letters. Has anyone else run into this? Any Web Capture experts want to hazard a guess? We have a large base of users running reader 3.0. They will not be upgrading to 4.0 for another month or two. Thanks, Jeff ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 19:34:32-GMT,1950;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05149 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:34:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27158; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:26:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:23:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26894; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:23:31 -0500 Message-ID: <4B1A7E5A9ECDD211BAFC00A0C906C02914B49C@platinum.bs.umt.edu> From: "Baker, Nick" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] pdf and screen readers Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:21:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ A co-worker who is blind and uses a screen reader (Jaws) tells me that pdfs are not accessible to him. Is it true that screen readers will not read pdfs? If so, how can we make pdfs accessible to folks who are blind? Nick Baker Information and Training Officer Business Services The University of Montana 406-243-2253 Voice 406-243-4929 FAX BakerN@mso.umt.edu ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 19:40:50-GMT,2051;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05241 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:40:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27882; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:33:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:32:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27727; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:32:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199910291942.OAA17792@greatwest.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:36:45 -0600 Subject: [PDF] Large PDF Files From: "Joan Wagner" To: pdf info , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We are continuously suffering with large pdf files. We are making pdf files out of Quark files that have high resolution images in them and the pdf files are larger than the original Quark files. Does anyone have any remedies or know any plug-ins? We have tried different compressions and optimized(screen) etc. The fonts have to be embedded for the customer to view. Thanks for your response. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 19:54:10-GMT,2532;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05436 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:54:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29396; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:48:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:45:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29147; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:45:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:50:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199910291950.MAA06502@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <4B1A7E5A9ECDD211BAFC00A0C906C02914B49C@platinum.bs.umt.edu> (BakerN@mso.umt.edu) Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and screen readers References: <4B1A7E5A9ECDD211BAFC00A0C906C02914B49C@platinum.bs.umt.edu> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > A co-worker who is blind and uses a screen reader (Jaws) tells me that > pdfs are not accessible to him. Is it true that screen readers will not > read pdfs? If so, how can we make pdfs accessible to folks who are blind? I'm not sure what you mean by "screen readers". As it happens, however, I've exchanged some e-mail with a user who is blind and who has been using Ghostscript with great success for this purpose, including distributing it to members of a club of fellow users. I think he uses Ghostscript's text extraction package (pstotext), which works on both PostScript and PDF. For more information, please contact Bernard Schweitzer, schweitz at hrnet.fr. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 19:55:03-GMT,2815;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05453 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:55:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29516; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:49:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:48:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29314; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:48:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991029155403.00903aa0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:54:03 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and screen readers In-Reply-To: <4B1A7E5A9ECDD211BAFC00A0C906C02914B49C@platinum.bs.umt.edu > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >A co-worker who is blind and uses a screen reader (Jaws) tells me that >pdfs are not accessible to him. Is it true that screen readers will not >read pdfs? If so, how can we make pdfs accessible to folks who are >blind? I haven't gone looking for this in some time, but searching on ACCESS on the Adobe site should get you some hits. Basically, there are several methods of making PDFs accessible. - If the PDF is on the net, you can email the URL to one of several addresses (one at Adobe, another at one of the universities) and get back the text of the PDF in a form that screen readers should be able to handle. - You can email the PDF itself to one of several other addresses and get a similar conversion. I tested both of these relatively recently and the results were far better than I'd have expected, given the PDFs I sent. Quite fast, also. Got a 150+ page 850k PDF back as text in a matter of minutes. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 20:17:00-GMT,1756;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05675 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:16:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31985; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:10:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:08:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31823; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:08:52 -0500 From: ddesimoni@tcadvertising.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: TCANOTES To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256819.006E726D.00@tc_mail.tcadvertising.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:08:47 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Trapping PDF files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I am looking into trapping PDF files on Mac. So far my only option is Ultimate's Trapeze software. Does anyone have any experience with this software or any others. thanks dan ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 21:02:36-GMT,2342;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06262 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:02:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03714; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:52:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:49:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03255; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:49:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199910292049.NAA07125@enterprise> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 3/22/99 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [Fwd: [PDF] pdf and screen readers] In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:39:15 PDT." <3819F7E3.28B8B16C@adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:49:22 -0700 From: Loretta Guarino Reid Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > A co-worker who is blind and uses a screen reader (Jaws) tells me that > pdfs are not accessible to him. Is it true that screen readers will not > read pdfs? If so, how can we make pdfs accessible to folks who are > blind? Nick, Please ask your co-worker to visit http://access.adobe.com to find out how to use the Access Plug-In or Accessibility server. These services transform the PDF file into a form that screen readers can vocalize. This isn't a 100% solution, but it is what is available today. Our goal for Acrobat 5.0 is complete accessibility out of the box. Loretta Guarino Reid Accessibility Lead, Acrobat Engineering ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 21:20:39-GMT,2558;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06559 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:20:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05499; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:11:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:09:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05235; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:09:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Deskewing software for Capture? Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:14:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >I've been trying to find some "reasonable" deskewing > software for use with > >Capture, but all that I've come across are higher end > packages that have a > >lot of features that we don't want or are entire Capture > replacement products. > > > >Any suggestions? > > How about ScanFix? > http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_ScanFix.html > > Steve Veloff > sjveloff@pdfzone.com Steve's suggestion is a good one -- for the $, ScanFix is where it's at. Be aware, however, that Acrobat Capture does perform a deskew during processing. If your materials are well scanned, and if your budget is very tight, you may not require additional deskew pre-Capture. Of course, good scanning is KEY in all things related to Capture. Old-fashioned "stuff it through the scanner" imaging just doesn't (IMHO) cut it when it comes to Capturing. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 21:23:45-GMT,2365;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06593 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:23:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06180; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:16:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:13:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05856; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:13:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991029172006.0099b8b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:20:06 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Large PDF Files In-Reply-To: <199910291942.OAA17792@greatwest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >We are continuously suffering with large pdf files. We are making pdf files >out of Quark files that have high resolution images in them and the pdf >files are larger than the original Quark files. Are your images linked or embedded in the original Quark files? If they're linked, it only stands to reason that the PDFs will be larger, since they have to contain the images, either in full or downsampled, where the Q files will only contain a few bytes of pointer and other info to the linked files. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 21:23:51-GMT,2864;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06599 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:23:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05745; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:12:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:10:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05327; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:10:28 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:14:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Trapping PDF files From: "dan still" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1270891108-38669239@bennettgraphics.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dan I know you are looking for a Mac solution, unfortunately there are not any good solutions (for high end printing). We have reverted to the Brisque which is a Scitex workflow. The Brisque handles the pdf trapping issues with the greatest of ease. It is easy to trap and paginate the files quickly. It really does work. There are some other proprietary vendors who offer this advantage and it is costly. I hope this helps Dan S. ---------- >From: ddesimoni@tcadvertising.com >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Trapping PDF files >Date: Fri, Oct 29, 1999, 4:08 PM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Hello, > I am looking into trapping PDF files on Mac. So far my only option is Ultimate's > Trapeze software. > > Does anyone have any experience with this software or any others. > > thanks > > dan > > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 21:25:20-GMT,2311;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06611 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:25:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06617; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:20:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:17:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06343; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:17:28 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991029172347.009a0d70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:23:47 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [Fwd: [PDF] pdf and screen readers] In-Reply-To: <199910292049.NAA07125@enterprise> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Please ask your co-worker to visit http://access.adobe.com to find out how >to use the Access Plug-In or Accessibility server. These services transform >the PDF file into a form that screen readers can vocalize. Thanks, Loretta, for filling in my hazy memory on this. And for mentioning the plug-in. I'd forgotten about that. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 21:25:28-GMT,2315;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06615 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:25:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06492; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:18:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:16:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06144; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:16:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991029172231.009a0e20@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:22:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and screen readers In-Reply-To: <199910291950.MAA06502@aladdin.com> References: <4B1A7E5A9ECDD211BAFC00A0C906C02914B49C@platinum.bs.umt.edu> <4B1A7E5A9ECDD211BAFC00A0C906C02914B49C@platinum.bs.umt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I'm not sure what you mean by "screen readers". There are apps that will find any text on the screen and read it through a sound card. Evidently, Acrobat displays everything, text or not, as bitmaps when it hits the screen, so these apps won't help somebody "play" a PDF so they can hear rather than read it. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 21:34:48-GMT,3168;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06695 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:34:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07432; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:25:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:23:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07134; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:23:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199910292133.QAA21607@greatwest.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:27:47 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] Large PDF Files From: "Joan Wagner" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA07130 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ yes it is reasonable but still shouldnšt the file be smaller since it is compressed and downsampled to 72 dpi ---------- >From: Steve Rindsberg >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Large PDF Files >Date: Fri, Oct 29, 1999, 3:20 PM > > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >>We are continuously suffering with large pdf files. We are making pdf files >>out of Quark files that have high resolution images in them and the pdf >>files are larger than the original Quark files. > >Are your images linked or embedded in the original Quark files? If they're >linked, it only stands to reason that the PDFs will be larger, since they >have to contain the images, either in full or downsampled, where the Q >files will only contain a few bytes of pointer and other info to the linked >files. > >Steve Rindsberg >President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau >http://www.rdpslides.com > >Developers of ZAP! >Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus >http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm > >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 21:59:14-GMT,2812;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07047 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:59:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10223; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:52:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:49:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09794; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:49:47 -0500 From: chuck.davis@ihs.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IHS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <87256819.0076EAE3.00@domino.ihs.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:45:01 -0600 Subject: RE: [PDF] Deskewing software for Capture? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >I've been trying to find some "reasonable" deskewing > software for use with > >Capture, but all that I've come across are higher end > packages that have a > >lot of features that we don't want or are entire Capture > replacement products. > > > >Any suggestions? > > How about ScanFix? > http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_ScanFix.html > > Steve Veloff > sjveloff@pdfzone.com Steve's suggestion is a good one -- for the $, ScanFix is where it's at. Be aware, however, that Acrobat Capture does perform a deskew during processing. If your materials are well scanned, and if your budget is very tight, you may not require additional deskew pre-Capture. Of course, good scanning is KEY in all things related to Capture. Old-fashioned "stuff it through the scanner" imaging just doesn't (IMHO) cut it when it comes to Capturing. I agree that ScanFix is a great solution. We purchased the developers kit, since ScanFix out-of-the-box does not have a command line interface and we wanted to create an automated process. We are also appending all images for a document into a multi-image TIFF then moving it into Capture's watch queue. This process has proven to be very fast and efficient. Chuck Davis Information Handling Services ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Oct-1999 22:00:36-GMT,3324;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07071 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10224; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:52:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:50:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09856; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:50:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991029175606.009925c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:56:06 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Large PDF Files In-Reply-To: <199910292133.QAA21607@greatwest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA09852 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >yes it is reasonable but still shouldnšt the file be smaller since it is >compressed and downsampled to 72 dpi No, not with linked files. The original Quark doc might contain no more than: ThisFile.TIF;X_Position,Y_Position,X_Size,Y_Size and some other odds and ends. Couple dozen bytes, maybe? When QXP needs to display or print the image, it goes out and gets it off the disk temporarily. (Note: I don't use QXP, but most apps that handle linking decently work pretty much the same way). Let's say this image is a full page letter size image, color. Even downsampled to 72dpi, it's going to be 792 pixels by 612 pixels times 3 bytes or 1.4 mb and change. Quite a jump from a dozen bytes in the original QXP file. That's uncompressed, of course; how much it compresses will depend on the compression options you chose. ZIP compression will squish some kinds of images down to near nothing but won't do you any good at all on others (most scans, for instance). JPG is more effective with these. But in no case are you going to get an image of any size down to the few bytes it takes to *reference* it from a QXP document, so *if* they're linked, it's almost a given that the PDF will be larger. It *will* be considerably smaller, as a rule, than the QXP *plus* all the linked files you'd need to open/print the document. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Oct-1999 10:27:23-GMT,2753;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11436 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 04:27:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29934; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 05:19:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 05:13:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29491; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 05:13:44 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000201bf2238$d47343e0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> References: <001501bf2230$9d46ca20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 11:45:16 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding Virus Code Cc: "George Johnson" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ George, in order to run a malicious file annotation, you would have to transmit it somehow to the victim's machine. You can't embed external files into your PDF document, which means that if you transmit them by mail or so, your users will immediately notice that something else besides the PDF document came through. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >> What opportunities does a PDF file have to cause damage? > >What about file annotations? I see the issue as the same as with e-mail >attachments, although Acrobat at least issues a warning. The problem is you >can disable the warning for subsequent file annotations. I understand that >the annotation cannot be opened without user manually activating it >(normally, at least), but are there other issues to be concerned about with >file annotations? > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Oct-1999 12:09:52-GMT,4737;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11643 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 06:09:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04526; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 07:01:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 06:59:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04363; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 06:59:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199910301159.EAA23662@sun630mp.infomania.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 04:59:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing XPress with PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: Todd Reid >> The PDF Import/Export filter beta 1.3 will not work >> with Acrobat 4-compatible files. An Acrobat 3-compatible PDF should separate >> properly. >> >> This will be fixed, supposedly, with Quark 4.1, to be released shortly. >> >> Rich > List, > I just wanted to clarify a response by Rich yesterday regarding the PDF > Filter that will ship with QuarkXPress 4.1. > > The PDF Filter Imports version 1.2 PDFs from Acrobat 3 & 4. (Since we > utilize the Placed PDF 1.0 Library, licensed from Adobe for import of PDF, > we are unable at this time QuarkXPress version 4.1 to import version 1.3 > PDFs. Quark has contacted Adobe for licensing information on the new PDF > library, and if we are successful in licensing the new version, we will be > able to update our PDF Filter to handle version 1.3 PDFs). > > > Hope this clears up any questions regarding Quark's PDF Filter. > > Todd The foregoing message doesn't really clear anything up. I was told by a Quark PR person at Seybold that the 4.1 upgrade would be out in mid-September. In two days it will be November, and where is the upgrade? The same PR guy told me that the 1.3 filter would be fixed at the same time. That is, made Acrobat 4-compatible. It doesn't sound like Quark is anywhere near making that happen. It's time for somebody to fess up here. Adobe says that Quark can make their filter PDF 1.3 compliant. Quark says it can't. My advice: 1* If you insist on using Quark, complain to the company. 2* And then export your PDF as an EPS, and place it in Quark. Watch out, though, if you intend to print separations from the Quark file, your EPS will need to be Level 1 PS. If you plan on using in-rip separating capabilities, you can save the file as a Level 2 PS. 3* Use InDesign which can place and export Acrobat 4-compatible PDFs. I've been a Quark user for nearly a decade -- that sounds like a long time, doesn't it? I am so disappointed and disenchanted with the company's inability to bring their product up to at least reasonable compatibility with everything else, that I am switching my loyalties. Yesterday, I had a rush job that had been created in PageMaker on the PC. I used InDesign to open the file, and nearly flawlessly used the existing templates/styles/colors to create a whole new document. On the Mac, by the way. I had no cross-platform problems. I exported a PDF, and the job was printed (in 4-color process) last night. InDesign is not that hard to learn, and isn't for everyone. I'm tired of waiting for Quark to play catch up, or even play at all. As a writer, I also don't like being led down the primrose path and made to look foolish. My two-bits. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Oct-1999 12:22:53-GMT,2845;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11691 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 06:22:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05520; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 07:13:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 07:12:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05381; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 07:12:54 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:13:01 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Re: Large PDF Files From: David Creamer To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199910301013.FAA29510@everglades.binc.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA05376 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ on 10/30/99 6:13 AM, pdf-digest at owner-pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com wrote: > yes it is reasonable but still shouldnšt the file be smaller since it is > compressed and downsampled to 72 dpi If I recall correctly, Quark's default import resolution for TIFFs is 36 ppi, this would make the preview 1/4 the size of a 72 ppi downsampled image. EPS previews are dependent upon the program that created them. >Are your images linked or embedded in the original Quark files? TIFF and EPS files are never embedded in Quark, only Pict and (I think) Metafiles are actually embedded directly. A link is still created to Picts, but is not required for output (however, I would NOT use either Pict or Metafile). Regarding fonts... Have you subset all your embedded fonts? I find this makes a major difference in the file size. It can limit editing, however. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. http://www.ideasdtp.com Apple Solution Expert (Member since 1990) Authorized QuarkXPress Trainer (Since 1998) Authorized Adobe Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, & PageMaker ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Oct-1999 20:15:53-GMT,1921;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13829 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:15:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06956; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:08:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:03:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06591; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:03:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199910302003.QAA15600@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Glyphica PDF search engine solution Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:05:57 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: cc: "Deidre Paknad" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ go to; www.glyphica.com www.purepdf.com >>>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:12:20 -0400 >>>From: marano@ICD.Teradyne.COM (Rosemary Marano (ICD Writers)) >>> ... >>>Does any one have a recommendation for Web search engines that support >>>searching >>>PDF files? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Oct-1999 20:15:53-GMT,2363;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13832 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:15:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06954; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:08:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:04:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06657; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:04:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199910302004.QAA07795@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat 4.0 Web capture plug-in and Acrobat 3.0 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:06:21 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Has anyone else run into this? Any Web Capture experts want to hazard a >guess? a quick look at the header of the PDF created by the Adobe Acrobat 4.0 Web capture plug-in (i mean, this plug in only works with Acrobat 4.0) is that it these PDF files are Acrobat 1.3 specification files, which tells me that they are only compatible using Acrobat 4.0. new features, bug fixes, new operands/code... > >We have a large base of users running reader 3.0. They will not be upgrading >to 4.0 for another month or two. my suugestion is to speed up that upgrade process a month or two. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org 011 32 3 444 3921 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Oct-1999 20:15:54-GMT,2925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13833 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:15:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06955; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:08:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:04:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06683; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:04:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199910302004.QAA04456@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] PDF trapping Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:06:23 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ddesimoni@tcadvertising.com asked; >I am looking into trapping PDF files on Mac. So far my only option is >Ultimate's >Trapeze software. > >Does anyone have any experience with this software or any others. If you want trapped PDF files (vs PDF files that will trap when they are RIPed) I guess you can buy Creo Prinergy. me, i think this is a device dependent moment, one (like line screen or screen angle) should never exsist inside a device independent file like PDF. That is whay Agfa Apogee OEMs Adobes IRT (In-RIP Trapping) technology - Agfa suggests that trapping information (like line screen and screen agles information) might need to be over -written, replaced, ignored or sometimes honored. this is quite difficult to accomplish when you pollute a PDF with a bazzilion little slivers of objects set to overprint and that later (when imaged) behave as traps. you can download the FREE Agfa Apogee IRT Xtension for Quark and Agfa Apogee IRT Acrobat Plug-in from; http://www.jahn.org/ this information that is embeded in PostScript and or PDF will trigger Adobe CPSI RIPs from several vendors whom offer the Adobe IRT option with their PostScript 3 RIP offering. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org 011 32 3 444 3921 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Oct-1999 21:42:50-GMT,1975;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14245 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:42:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13537; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:34:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:32:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13259; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:32:06 -0500 From: "Richard Mallard" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF background images don't print Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:28:30 -0400 Message-ID: <003401bf231d$b7108480$d40e1bd8@prismatek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Background images, in pages created in Quark 4 then saved as EPS and distilled to PDf don't print on a HP 5Si. Open up the PDF and you can see the image fine!? Can anyone give me a clue? Dick Mallard Prismatek ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Oct-1999 23:31:15-GMT,2532;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14988 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:31:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21818; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:26:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:24:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21658; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:24:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:24:29 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding Virus Code In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > in order to run a malicious file annotation, you would have to transmit it > somehow to the victim's machine. You can't embed external files into your > PDF document, which means that if you transmit them by mail or so, your > users will immediately notice that something else besides the PDF document > came through. Max, With the new file annotation tool, you can indeed embed a file in a PDF document. I was just wondering how safe other folks thought this was, considering file annotations can be trojans or files containing viruses. Would a virus scanner detect a virus that has been embedded in a PDF via file annotation, by scanning the PDF alone? For some reason I doubt it. I would test it myself, but fortunately I don't have any viruses around ;-) Not much information about this is presented in the Acrobat Guide. I guess I'll have to dig into the PDF Reference Manual to learn more about file annotations. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Oct-1999 0:33:09-GMT,2771;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15408 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:33:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26500; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:28:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:26:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26373; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:26:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: asumarta@209.108.204.130 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:29:56 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: asumarta@totalint.com (Alex Sumarta) Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF with custom transfer function Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I am trying to create PDF files that have the following items: 1. custom transfer functions. 2. custom halftone functions. 3. custom black generation functions. 4. custom undercolor removal functions. 5. tagged with an ICC profile. My attempts so far: I tried changing and creating the custom functions in Photoshop->Color Setting->CMYK setup. I convert an RGB image to CMYK in Photoshop using the customized CMYK setuo. Then, I output the files to PostScript and distilled the PostScript using the PrintOptimized setting in Distiller 4.0. I didn't change any settings under Color since options such as preserve overprint, UCR, Black generation, and transfer function are already selected. This method doesn't seem to work since when I open the PDF with BBedit, the tags are still set at default /Type /ExtGState /SA false /SM 0.02 /OP true /op true /OPM 1 /BG2 /Default /UCR2 /Default /TR2 /Default Am I doing this the right way? Am I missing a step? Can anybody recommend any other methods? Anybody in the list have some sample PDF files which include the above items that I can use? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. - Alex Sumarta Total Integration, Inc ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Oct-1999 1:51:25-GMT,3023;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15814 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:51:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32380; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:46:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:44:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA32297; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:44:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:45:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding Virus Code Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA32293 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 4:24 PM -0700 10/30/99, George Johnson wrote: >With the new file annotation tool, you can indeed embed a file in a PDF >document. I was just wondering how safe other folks thought this was, >considering file annotations can be trojans or files containing viruses. Well, as noted on one of the other lists, as of Acro 3.0.1, trying to run of these will cause Acro to display and alert so that least the user is notified that there is a potential problem. >Would a virus scanner detect a virus that has been embedded in a PDF via >file annotation, by scanning the PDF alone? Doubtful, since they probably don't even bother to check PDF's at all - they probably just skip over them. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Oct-1999 2:56:26-GMT,5638;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16084 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:56:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04359; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:51:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:49:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04208; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:49:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: morrie@208.234.17.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 22:52:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Morrie Brown Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1270784141==_ma============" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --============_-1270784141==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" New to list question: I have created my manual in Framemaker 5.5 for our application... I have been trying to find out if there is a way to get "context sensitvity" inside of the PDF's similar to WinHelp for Windows and QuickHelp on Macintosh. I am aware of named destinations but do not know how to use them or how to create the Applescripts or DDE code to get to inside the document. My application is based on a 4GL "4th Dimension". I am able to launch the PDFS from buttons in my program, but the PDF only opens to the first page of the manual. Needless to say, if I could get the PDF to open to the appropriate topic ( i.e. Header 2 Level) that would be just great. I have spoken to some of the people at Adobe, but will little result. Here is the excerpt from the Adobe PDF docs regrading this subject: 10.14 Use strings for named destinations Named destinations (see page 185) can be represented with names stored in the Catalog's Dests dictionary, or with strings stored in the Dests name tree in the Catalog's Names dictionary. For a small number of named destinations, either method is acceptable, and for compatibility with PDF 1.0 and 1.1, names are required. But applications that generate many named destinations should use the PDF 1.2 feature of storing these as strings, where there are essentially no implementation limits. PDF 1.2 Does anyone know how to do this? Are there third party tools that already do this? thanks, Morrie ***************************** Morrie Brown PrintPoint, Inc. 57 Ludlow Lane Palisades, NY 10964 e-mail: mbrown@printpoint.com voice: (914) 359-0298 fax: (914) 359-3468 http://www.printpoint.com ***************************** --============_-1270784141==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New to list question: I have created my manual in Framemaker 5.5 for our application... I have been trying to find out if there is a way to get "context sensitvity" inside of the PDF's similar to WinHelp for Windows and QuickHelp on Macintosh. I am aware of named destinations but do not know how to use them or how to create the Applescripts or DDE code to get to=20 inside the document. My application is based on a 4GL "4th Dimension". I am able to launch the PDFS from buttons in my program, but the PDF only opens to the first page of the manual. Needless to say, if I could get the PDF to open to the appropriate topic ( i.e. Header 2 Level) that would be just great. I have spoken to some of the people at Adobe, but will little result. Here is the excerpt from the Adobe PDF docs regrading this subject: Geneva10.14 Use strings for named destinations GenevaNamed destinations (see 0000,0000,FFFFpage 185) can be represented with names stored in the Catalog's Dests dictionary, or with strings stored in the Dests name tree in the Catalog's Names dictionary. For a small number of named destinations, either method is acceptable, and for compatibility with PDF 1.0 and 1.1, names are required. But applications that generate many named destinations should use the PDF 1.2 feature of storing these as strings, where there are essentially no implementation limits. PDF 1.2 Does anyone know how to do this? Are there third party tools that already do this? thanks, Morrie ***************************** Morrie Brown PrintPoint, Inc. 57 Ludlow Lane Palisades, NY 10964 =20 e-mail: mbrown@printpoint.com voice: (914) 359-0298 fax: (914) 359-3468 http://www.printpoint.com ***************************** --============_-1270784141==_ma============-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Oct-1999 7:48:03-GMT,2645;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17598 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:48:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28717; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:43:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:42:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28570; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:42:33 -0600 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PDF with custom transfer function Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:44:32 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Alex, > Then, I output the files to PostScript and distilled the PostScript > using the PrintOptimized setting in Distiller 4.0. After outputting to PostScript, have you checked whether the PostScript file contains the custom functions you desire? There's two parts in your problem: generating a correct PS file and then correctly distilling it into PDF... I would first check the PostScript to see whether that is correct. Then start worrying about distiller settings. David. -------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Software Development Manager Enfocus Software ----------------------------------------- Web: http://www.enfocus.com Email: davidvd@enfocus.be ----------------------------------------- Ha sempre alguem -------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Oct-1999 7:48:05-GMT,2740;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17605 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:48:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28699; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:43:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:42:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28538; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:42:21 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding Virus Code Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:40:49 -0000 Message-ID: <002b01bf2384$0422ada0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > With the new file annotation tool, you can indeed embed a > file in a PDF > document. I was just wondering how safe other folks thought this was, > considering file annotations can be trojans or files > containing viruses. > Would a virus scanner detect a virus that has been embedded > in a PDF via > file annotation, by scanning the PDF alone? I would doubt this, not least because virus scanners are set up to scan known file types. However 1. I believe that the execution of file annotations is subject to the same warnings as external links (I haven't tested it though). This would imply that it is no increased weakness, though user training is an issue. 2. To execute a file annotation, Acrobat has to extract it to a file, then ask the system to execute. At that point virus scanners would have the ability to spot a problem. (Though, as always, viruses are only one example of a damaging file). Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Oct-1999 7:48:03-GMT,2085;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17599 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:48:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28180; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:39:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:36:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28028; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:36:43 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PDF with custom transfer function Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:35:10 -0000 Message-ID: <002a01bf2383$3a5e26c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > This method doesn't seem to work since when I open the PDF with > BBedit, the tags are still set at default > > /BG2 /Default Perhaps very obvious but all I can think of is that it is normal to have several ExtGState objects. Have you checked there are no others? Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Oct-1999 16:43:27-GMT,3328;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19236 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:43:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25065; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:54:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:49:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24500; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:49:04 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:42:30 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding Virus Code Cc: George Johnson Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ George, Oops, accepted. I only stumbled over this effect when dabbling with Web Capture, and there only PDFs were embedded. If the embedded file is not compressed, it should be recognizable with a virus scanner, if it is set up properly. I have some doubts if a virus scanner can properly dig through a compressed document, however. And, this could catch a virus, but I have really serious doubts if it could catch a trojan horse. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >> in order to run a malicious file annotation, you would have to transmit it >> somehow to the victim's machine. You can't embed external files into your >> PDF document, which means that if you transmit them by mail or so, your >> users will immediately notice that something else besides the PDF document >> came through. > >Max, > >With the new file annotation tool, you can indeed embed a file in a PDF >document. I was just wondering how safe other folks thought this was, >considering file annotations can be trojans or files containing viruses. >Would a virus scanner detect a virus that has been embedded in a PDF via >file annotation, by scanning the PDF alone? For some reason I doubt it. I >would test it myself, but fortunately I don't have any viruses around ;-) > >Not much information about this is presented in the Acrobat Guide. I guess >I'll have to dig into the PDF Reference Manual to learn more about file >annotations. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Oct-1999 23:38:38-GMT,2289;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21363 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:38:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25148; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:28:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:22:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24726; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:22:54 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:22:01 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Screen Angles From: "Keith Ross" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <1270710317-100502222@soundpublishing.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA24722 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello everyone. We are using the Create Adobe PDF feature on Mac OS 6 to create PDF files from Quark 3.2 & 4.0.4. We then create PostScript files from Acrobat to download to an ECRM Rip (Imagesetter). This process works well with the exception of process color pages. The images are PhotoShop DCS 2 EPS files. The file prints correctly but all ink color angles are 45š. Does anyone know how to fix this problem? > > --------------------------------------- > Keith Ross > IT Training and Software Support > Sound Publishing > Oak Harbor, Washington > www.soundpublishing.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 0:03:01-GMT,2638;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21469 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:03:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27415; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:57:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:54:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27144; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:54:54 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:51:57 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: Context sensitive help docs From: Curtis Burns To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ on 10/30/99 10:52 PM, Morrie Brown at mbrown@printpoint.com wrote: > I have been trying to find out if there is a way to get "context sensitvity" > inside of the PDF's similar to WinHelp for Windows and QuickHelp on Macintosh. > > I am aware of named destinations but do not know how to use them or how to > create the Applescripts or DDE code to get to > inside the document. > > My application is based on a 4GL "4th Dimension". I am able to launch the > PDFS from buttons in my program, but the PDF only > opens to the first page of the manual. > > Needless to say, if I could get the PDF to open to the appropriate topic ( > i.e. Header 2 Level) that would be just great. The following Applescript syntax will get you to a bookmark within a PDF document: perform PDBookmark "Foo" Cheers, | c u r t i s | b u r n s | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | cburns@bellatlantic.net | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 3:22:51-GMT,2765;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22524 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:22:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10542; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:16:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:12:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09919; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:12:39 -0600 Message-ID: <009a01bf2417$89fbede0$214315a5@magix.com.sg> From: "Anthony Cheng" To: "PDF" Subject: [PDF] Security Settings Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:16:49 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0097_01BF245A.97A9AFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01BF245A.97A9AFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Is there anyway to set the securitys for a group of PDF files in the = same folder at one time rather then individually. SanD ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01BF245A.97A9AFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0097_01BF245A.97A9AFC0-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 3:52:30-GMT,3181;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22656 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:52:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15143; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:46:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:43:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14740; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:43:53 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:43:35 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Screen Angles From: Rich Sprague To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1270710317-100502222@soundpublishing.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA14735 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: "Keith Ross" > We are using the Create Adobe PDF feature on Mac OS 6 to create PDF files > from Quark 3.2 & 4.0.4. We then create PostScript files from Acrobat to > download to an ECRM Rip (Imagesetter). This process works well with the > exception of process color pages. The images are PhotoShop DCS 2 EPS files. > The file prints correctly but all ink color angles are 45š. Does anyone know > how to fix this problem? I don't understand why you are going to all the extra steps. Why aren't you just printing the Quark files to your rip? Acrobat isn't going to put any screen angles, other than 45 degrees, in your PS file, and it doesn't sound like your rip is doing it either. You may need a plug-in for Acrobat like Crackerjack (http:www.lantanarips.com), which would then eliminate the requirement that you print PS to your rip. I'm surprised that the Create Adobe PDF feature allows the DCS files to be properly included in the PDF, but I haven't tried it either. Good luck. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 4:07:01-GMT,2521;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22730 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:07:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17271; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:01:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:58:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16818; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:58:39 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:57:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Screen Angles From: "Keith Ross" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1270693766-101497896@soundpublishing.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I don't understand why you are going to all the extra steps. Why aren't you > just printing the Quark files to your rip? The rip station is in our off-site printing facilities. We create PDF PostScript files because of the smaller file sizes which are often sent electronically to the printing facilities. > Acrobat isn't going to put any screen angles, other than 45 degrees, in your > PS file, and it doesn't sound like your rip is doing it either. We tried setting screen angles on our rip but could not get it to work. > I'm surprised that the Create Adobe PDF feature allows the DCS files to be > properly included in the PDF, but I haven't tried it either. Yes our color images (DCS) work just fine except for the screen angles. --------------------------------------- Keith Ross IT Training and Software Support Sound Publishing Oak Harbor, Washington www.soundpublishing.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 5:38:48-GMT,5172;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23273 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:38:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29856; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:31:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:28:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29416; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:28:23 -0600 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:28:19 -0800 (PST) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding Virus Code In-Reply-To: <002b01bf2384$0422ada0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ (Aandi, the following comments are not necessarily directed to you. Your post was just a convenient one to respond to.) > 1. I believe that the execution of file annotations is subject to > the same warnings as external links (I haven't tested it though). > This would imply that it is no increased weakness, though user > training is an issue. I agree, but file annotations are different than Open File action types. The danger with Open File actions is that a potentially damaging file or program can be launched, but the program or file must already reside on the machine. With file annotations, a PDF document can be the vehicle by which potentially dangerous material is delivered. I checked the "warning" that is displayed when one attempts to launch a file annotation. A dialog is presented the user: DIALOG TITLE BAR TEXT: Launch format.com DIALOG TEXT: Are you sure you want to launch the attached file? DIALOG BUTTONS: OK (with focus), Cancel CHECK BOX: Do not ask this question again I suppose this can be called a warning. I think Adobe can help with the necessary user training here. How about something like this: DIALOG TITLE BAR TEXT: "Launch File Annotation" DIALOG TEXT: "You are about to launch the attached file: FORMAT.COM File annotations can contain viruses or perform actions that can cause data loss or corruption. Click Launch to proceed." DIALOG BUTTONS: Cancel (with focus), Launch Now this is a warning, which could be stronger still. I could understand if Adobe MIGHT not want to include a real warning. It may, after all, cause more angst than reports of actual virus transmissions. This is a debatable point, and I would come down on the side of presenting a more informative warning. Microsoft now does so with macros. When you right-click on a file annotation, you are given the option to "Extract File...". Perhaps there could be a preference setting so that THIS is the default action when double-clicking a file annotation. Or maybe there could be a preference setting to have your virus scanner check things out before proceeding. I know that a virus scanner can be set up so that a file is automatically scanned before it is opened, but many users don't have this feature active due to performance issues (myself included) or ignorance. I also understand that there is only so much one can do to protect some users from themselves. Most folks reading this are probably not too concerned, and my intention is not to hype or overstate any of this. As I said in a previous post, I view the issue the same way I do e-mail attachments. If a person gets a virus or runs a damaging program, it is his own fault. But we all know that many people don't practice safe-file swapping. Hopefully, the upcoming Acrobat Business Tools will become a huge success, but then more folks will be using file annotations, assuming Business Tools allows them to (unlike Reader). Some users will be less savvy than we are. Someday, someone will be negatively affected by a virus/trojan PDF file annotation. It will be their fault, but will Acrobat be blamed? PDF evangelists should formulate a response now. I am certainly not arguing that the file annotation capability should be removed from Acrobat, only that it could be implemented slightly differently. And while I'm at it, how about making the default icon something more universally recognized as a file, rather than a push-pin? The second-in-place toe tag icon may be more appropriate given the nature of this discussion, but I would suggest a diskette. George ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 6:22:44-GMT,2637;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA23776 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:22:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03149; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:13:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:11:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02653; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:11:05 -0600 Message-ID: <001901bf242f$724bdb20$1334193f@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Security Settings Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:07:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01BF23EC.635608E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BF23EC.635608E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Compose - and probably other plug-ins - will enable you to do this. = Check out plug-ins at PDFZone. 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