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The error message returns that it couldn't find Distiller AND though i've checked distiller was installed, i cannot start it. The first screen of Distiller displays, then it cannot open but does'nt return any error message. Any idea? 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Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: Carrie Crawford > I am currently out of the office and will return Wednesday morning, Sept. 6, 2000. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Sep-2000 15:10:44-GMT,3724;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15453 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:10:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15627; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:00:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:54:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15108; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:54:23 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15101 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:54:21 -0500 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA17580; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 07:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08158; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 07:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM (8.7.5) with ESMTP id HAA00114; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 07:52:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS_BASE) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000901074902.00b9fe90@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 07:52:49 -0700 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E9atrice?= Marchand From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Distiller doesn't start - Urgent Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <01C01407.39852E90@beatrice.leoparis.hcl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA15102 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9/1/00 02:24 AM, Béatrice Marchand wrote: >I've just installed Acrobat 4.0 (after uninstalling Acrobat 3.01) and everything seemed OK but... >i cannot generate PDF files from FrameMaker (5.5.2). The error message returns that it couldn't find Distiller >AND >though i've checked distiller was installed, i cannot start it. The first screen of Distiller displays, then it cannot open but does'nt return any error message. > >Any idea? > >Thanks in advance >Béatrice What is issuing the "cannot find Distiller" message, FrameMaker? Are you attempting to "save as PDF" or are you printing to the "Acrobat Distiller" printer (Windows) or the "Create Adobe PDF" printer (Mac) which are supposed to automatically funnel the PostScript to the Distiller in the background? If the former, use the latter! Otherwise, it would appear that your installation of Acrobat may be corrupted or incomplete. Can you run the Distiller from the Start Menu (Windows) or by double clicking the program? - Dov ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Sep-2000 16:58:25-GMT,2482;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18959 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:58:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23369; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:42:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:36:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22869; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:36:04 -0500 Received: from email.abingdon.geoquest.slb.com (email.abingdon.geoquest.slb.com [134.32.146.245]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22865 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:36:01 -0500 Received: from abingdon.geoquest.slb.com ([134.32.146.147]) by email.abingdon.geoquest.slb.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58147U25000L25000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:29:51 +0100 Message-ID: <39AFDB78.6C37171E@abingdon.geoquest.slb.com> Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 17:38:16 +0100 From: chawtrey@abingdon.geoquest.slb.com (Charles Hawtrey) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFzone Subject: [PDF] Named destinations don't work in Acro 4.05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have some PDF documents where links to named destinations from HTML worked fine in Acrobat 3.0x but do not seem to with Acrobat 4.05. The links from HTML are of the style http://www.xyz/framemaker_faq.pdf#M4.8.newlink.Producing.screen.captures Any ideas what's happening, anybody? Charles Hawtrey Schlumberger, UK ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Sep-2000 20:42:40-GMT,4955;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25894 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:42:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06398; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:33:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:26:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05977; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:26:58 -0500 Received: from webserver01.quantummail.com (quantummail.com [216.201.156.146]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05973 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:26:56 -0500 Received: by WEBSERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:30:15 -0500 Message-ID: <84A9D6672A25D411870F00902786268103DDAB@WEBSERVER01> From: "J. Chris Anderson" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Form xobjects & contents attribute? Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:30:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C01453.6F0FF332" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C01453.6F0FF332 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone know if an xobject form object dictionary can contain a contents attribute like a page can? I am getting an "Invalid Form" error from AcroReader when i try to use my form on a page. For example I have constructed a form as follows: 8516 0 obj <> endobj Where the forms resources object is defined as follows: 8519 0 obj <> and the contents object like: 8517 0 obj <> stream BT /F1 36 Tf 1 0 0 1 113 750 Tm (testing form xobject.)Tj ET endstream endobj and length object and font object are correctly defined. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C01453.6F0FF332 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Form xobjects & contents attribute?

Does anyone know if an xobject form object dictionary = can contain a contents attribute like a page can?  I am getting an = "Invalid Form" error from AcroReader when i try to use my = form on a page.

For example I have constructed a form as = follows:

8516 0 obj
<</Type/Xobject
/Subtype/Form
/Formtype 1
/Name/Frm27
/Resources 8519 0 R
/BBox[0 0 396 612]
/Matrix[1 0 0 1 0 0]
/XUID [1000000 8516]
/Contents[8517 0 R ]
>>
endobj

Where the forms resources object is defined as = follows:

8519 0 obj
<</ProcSet[/PDF/Text]
/Font<</F1 80 0 R
>>

and the contents object like:

8517 0 obj
<</Length 8518 0 R
>>
stream
BT
/F1 36 Tf
1 0 0 1 113 750 Tm
(testing form xobject.)Tj
ET
endstream
endobj

and length object and font object are correctly = defined.

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Boman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hang in there! References: <004f01c01413$07131880$27d3a6c7@silverrun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Too bad Kurt Foss isn't running the list anymore, PDF Zone's loss and Planet PDF's gain. None of this would have happened for long, all of those with auto-replies would of been 86'd. Sean Rooney wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > The BAD news is Carrie and Dan are out o' town. > The GOOD news is Marlene should be back on Tuesday! ;- ) > > Hang in there, everybody! > > Sean > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carrie Crawford > > > I am currently out of the office and will return Wednesday > morning, Sept. 6, 2000. > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Sep-2000 23:19:38-GMT,3216;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29834 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:19:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15784; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:12:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:07:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15441; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:07:16 -0500 Received: from pine.itsd.gov.bc.ca (root@pine.itsd.GOV.BC.CA [142.32.11.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15432 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:07:14 -0500 Received: from GEMINI.GOV.BC.CA (gemini.GOV.BC.CA [142.32.4.25]) by pine.itsd.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA31120 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:06:58 -0700 Received: from pipe.gov.bc.ca (pipe.bcsc.GOV.BC.CA) by venus.gov.bc.ca (PMDF V5.2-31 #35267) with ESMTP id <01JTNXR6VAQ8Q2MVFE@venus.gov.bc.ca> for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:06:57 PDT Received: by pipe.bcsc.GOV.BC.CA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:06:59 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:06:44 -0700 From: "Cutler, Wendy SDES:EX" Subject: RE: [PDF] Hang in there! To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23C01DD445A@ocean.GOV.BC.CA> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Oh? I guess I should delete my notes that list him as the manager (and stop writing to him; sorry, Kurt). Ah, now I've found it - 'listowner' is our new leader. Whoever it is does seem to have dealt with the problem somehow - those guys haven't been heard from in hours now. * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Social Development and Economic Security * mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca *(604) 660-1591 Fax: (604)775-0846 -----Original Message----- From: Bruce A. Boman [mailto:baboman@frii.com] Sent: Friday, September 1, 2000 3:41 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hang in there! The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Too bad Kurt Foss isn't running the list anymore, PDF Zone's loss and Planet PDF's gain. None of this would have happened for long, all of those with auto-replies would of been 86'd. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Sep-2000 23:19:42-GMT,3231;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29841 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:19:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15763; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:12:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:06:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15385; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:06:37 -0500 Received: from monona.rhome.net (71.monona.msn.vtom.com [216.145.166.71]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15381 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:06:36 -0500 Received: from w042.omnipress.com ([216.145.167.34]) by monona.rhome.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 18:06:34 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000901174933.00b30530@mail.omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@mail.omnipress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 18:04:19 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: uschan@omnipress.com (Chris Uschan) Subject: Re: [PDF] Hang in there! In-Reply-To: <39B0305E.6EE1B5AC@frii.com> References: <004f01c01413$07131880$27d3a6c7@silverrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I agree... I remember the days when Mr. Foss had to intervene and keep the list on track. He did do a good job of keeping the list focused. Email abuse is bad enough with Spam, Jokes, non-business related items to be dealing with "auto-reply's" Obviously education was not good enough. I feel the list should take care of this problem so we can focus on PDF related issues. God, I can't wait Thanksgiving and the Holiday Season to see who else will be "out of the office." my vote is to: 1. List owner to filter out "auto-replys" and 2. Remove abusers of this list temporary and make them resubmit to return to the list. And finally, if I should ever send some "auto-reply" to this list - do the list a favor and kick me out, please ! Happy PDFing gang ! Christopher Uschan Manager of Digital Resources ------------------------- OMNIPRESS 2600 Anderson Street Madison, WI 53704 USA Toll Free: 800-828-0305 Phone: 608-246-2600 Fax: 608-246-4237 http://www.omnipress.com -------------------------- Omnipress specializes in Printed Books, CD-ROM products, and Online Proceedings and Abstract Collections. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Sep-2000 14:10:46-GMT,3423;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05074 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:10:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05302; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:02:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:53:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04652; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:53:53 -0500 Received: from imr2.srv.uk.deuba.com (imr2.srv.uk.deuba.com [194.205.246.161]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04648 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:53:51 -0500 Received: from bmr2-e1.srv.uk.deuba.com by imr2.srv.uk.deuba.com id OAA28996; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:53:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from sdbo1003.srv.uk.deuba.com [10.143.26.16] by bmr2-e1.srv.uk.deuba.com id OAA08863; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:53:29 +0100 (BST) Subject: [PDF] PCL printing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "David Harry" Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:53:26 +0000 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on sdbo1003/DMGUK/DeuBaInt/DeuBa(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 04/09/2000 02:53:29 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am forwarding this mail on behalf of a colleague who has had big PCL printing problems. He posted it to the Quark Forum already but hasn't had any response yet and is getting desperate. Thanks in advance for helping us out on this. I'm having a huge problem, I'm generating a PDF on a MAC of our 'corporate brochure' using Universe 45 Light, when I EXPORT AS PDF it generates the PDF file, in my distiller options, I allow embedding of ALL fonts, when PDF is created, it views correctly, when I take this to a WINDOWS platform, some fonts print ie. Universe 55, but the Universe 45 light isn't working. On my Mac I installed the Universe Font collection again, The only way I managed to get a printable version on a non-Postscript printer was to in Quark Export the file to EPS, it seemed to have embedded all the fonts, and when I distilled the file on the Mac and printed it on the PC it worked fine. I've tried printing directly to the Distiller printer, allowing Distiller PPD selected and Generic Colour PPD, but to no luck .. Can anybody help me with this urgent dilemma that I have. David Phillip DTP Marketing Deutsche Asset Management -- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Sep-2000 14:44:47-GMT,4561;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05685 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:44:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08036; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:34:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:30:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07779; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:30:52 -0500 Received: from www.seedco.com (hidden-user@[209.39.80.131]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07774 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:30:51 -0500 Received: from mhiatt ([172.16.1.78]) by www.seedco.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with SMTP id 329 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:48:22 -0500 Message-ID: <002d01c0167a$dfc00b20$4e0110ac@vocaldata.com> From: "Mike Hiatt" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] PCL printing Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:17:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Have you made sure in Distiller, under the Fonts tab, that you have told Distiller where those fonts are located. We've had problems with "fuzzy" text recently on some documents and I think it's because we "embedded" the fonts, but the PC used to create the PDF wasn't pointing Distiller to the font location. At least I sure hope that was the problem. I guess I'll find out tomorrow when the printer is supposed to call with either the bad news that we're still having the problem or the good news that proofs are ready. Mike Hiatt Manager, Tech Pubs VocalData, Inc. Dallas (yeah, that one) mhiatt@vocaldata.com ----- Original Message ----- From: David Harry To: Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 9:53 AM Subject: [PDF] PCL printing > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I am forwarding this mail on behalf of a colleague who has had big PCL printing problems. He posted it to the Quark Forum already > but hasn't had any response yet and is getting desperate. Thanks in advance for helping us out on this. > > I'm having a huge problem, I'm generating a PDF on a MAC of our 'corporate > brochure' using Universe 45 Light, when I EXPORT AS PDF it generates the > PDF file, in my distiller options, I allow embedding of ALL fonts, when PDF is > created, it views correctly, when I take this to a WINDOWS platform, some fonts > print ie. Universe 55, but the Universe 45 light isn't working. On my Mac I > installed the Universe Font collection again, The only way I managed to get a > printable version on a non-Postscript printer was to in Quark Export the file to > EPS, it seemed to have embedded all the fonts, and when I distilled the file on > the Mac and printed it on the PC it worked fine. I've tried printing directly to the > Distiller printer, allowing Distiller PPD selected and Generic Colour PPD, but to > no luck .. Can anybody help me with this urgent dilemma that I have. > > David Phillip > DTP Marketing > Deutsche Asset Management > > > -- > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Sep-2000 14:49:10-GMT,2261;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05773 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:49:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08805; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:43:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:39:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08448; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:39:26 -0500 Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08442 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:39:25 -0500 Received: from 209-122-212-11.s519.tnt6.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.212.11] helo=kathymcg) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.15 #2) id 13VxPA-000706-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 10:39:24 -0400 Message-ID: <001501c0167d$c763bf60$667efea9@kathymcg> From: "Kathy McGlinn" To: Subject: [PDF] Error Message Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:38:20 -0400 Organization: EDTECH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ All, I recently created a PDF (printing to Distiller) and one of my user is receiving this error message: "A font contains a bad CMAP/Encoding". Never got this message before, so I'm not sure what to fix. Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Sep-2000 14:37:10-GMT,2305;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03001 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:37:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13539; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:26:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:21:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13220; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:21:34 -0500 Received: from thefreeinternet.co.uk (hermes-3.bizonline.net [212.95.128.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13215 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:21:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 27571 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2000 13:21:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 5120) (213.108.38.178) by hermes-3.bizonline.net with SMTP; 5 Sep 2000 13:21:20 -0000 Message-ID: <007601c0173c$740a90e0$c7256cd5@5120> From: "Andy Kemp" To: Subject: [PDF] Font width Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:23:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ When I scan a page into Acrobat, and OCR it, any dubious words are highlit. This is fine, except that when I change or accept the word, it is set to 80% width. With the text touch-up tool I can change the font, the point size etc (so it isn't a font embedding thing ...) but I can't change the font width back to 100% for love nor money. This is driving me nuts! Anyone got an idea???? Andy Kemp Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Sep-2000 14:52:54-GMT,2140;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03420 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:52:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19757; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:41:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:34:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19051; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:34:42 -0500 Received: from prserv.net (out4.prserv.net [32.97.166.34]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19047 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:34:41 -0500 Received: from attglobal.net ([129.37.148.124]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000090514343923902g4mdke>; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:34:40 +0000 Message-ID: <39B50588.5045F4E@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:39:04 -0400 From: Dave Mathewson Organization: 21st Century Documents X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Version 4.0 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We have been using version 4.0 of Acrobat for several months now and have discovered a problem using the yellow "Notes" that you attach. On version 3 Reader the note displays on screen in proper size, on version 4.0 Reader and on Acrobat 4.0, the note displays significantly larger (i.e. 1" x 3" ). Has any body run into this before? 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Thomas Ziegelbauer PDFzone Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Sep-2000 3:50:17-GMT,2350;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA26277 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 21:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21385; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:40:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:34:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21024; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:34:55 -0500 Received: from aci.on.ca (root@public.aci.on.ca [205.207.148.251]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21020 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:34:54 -0500 Received: from [209.135.107.89](xtreme3-89.aci.on.ca[209.135.107.89]) (890 bytes) by aci.on.ca via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:34:52 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.112-Pre 2000-Feb-17 #2 built 2000-Sep-3) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:35:07 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Search (Find) on Font From: Stephen Evans To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Is there a way to search a PDF document to find where a particular font is being used (and a find next)? For example, Quark has the option to do a Find on a font (and it's attributes). The only remotely similar function that I can find in Acrobat is to hilite text and display it's attributes and this would take far too long in large documents. Acrobat's Find function is very basic. ...Steve Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Sep-2000 8:34:03-GMT,2974;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01810 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 02:34:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA03011; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:22:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:15:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02520; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:15:18 -0500 Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz (smtp4.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02504 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:15:11 -0500 Received: from p266 (p476-tnt3.akl.ihug.co.nz [216.100.158.222]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id UAA00953 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:15:04 +1200 Message-ID: <001301c018a4$542b4940$de9e64d8@p266> From: "Andrew Smith" To: References: <39B50588.5045F4E@attglobal.net> Subject: [PDF] PDFMark Question Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:18:09 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I'm starting to feel guilty on my use of this list. I keep asking for solutions, but feel it will be a long time before I have the level of knowledge to be a solution contributor. So a huge big Kiwi thanks to those many talented people you give of their time and knowledge so freely. So here is the solution I now seek. I wish to prepare a 20 page presentation (in PageMaker) and Acrobat 4 There will be a 'NEXT' button on most of the page for the reader to use. However if possible, I would like to have 4 or 5 pages in the middle that advance themselves every 10 to 15 seconds. Is it possible to use a PDFMark to perform this page advance function? And if it is possible, could anyone suggest the coding? Best regards Andrew ------------------------------------------------------------------ Contact Information: E-mail:andrew@apt.co.nz Postal:PO Box 33-385 Takapuna,Auckland 1309 New Zealand. Tel:64-9-486-2879 Fax:64-9-486-5588 Website: http://www.apt.co.nz (Accelerated Business & Project Planning) Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Sep-2000 11:40:55-GMT,1961;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04938 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 05:40:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16718; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:30:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:24:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16188; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:24:34 -0500 Received: from ntserver1.gilchrist.co.uk ([193.129.76.212]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16184 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:24:33 -0500 Received: by ntserver1.gilchrist.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:27:33 +0100 Message-ID: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C3323134@ntserver1.gilchrist.co.uk> From: Neil Swallow To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Annotation Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:27:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know of a good alternative to Acrobat or Business tools for annotating PDF files? The cheaper the better as we need to distribute this to many users for an approval process. Preferably a plug in to reader. Thanks Neil Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Sep-2000 12:12:23-GMT,3506;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05435 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:12:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19299; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:03:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:58:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18785; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:58:42 -0500 Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18781 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:58:41 -0500 Received: from [141.154.67.104] (adsl-141-154-67-104.bellatlantic.net [141.154.67.104]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA13747; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:58:35 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 08:06:35 -0400 Subject: [PDF] OCR capture, fonts, and pictures From: Peter Manuelian/Laurie Thomas To: CC: Peter Manuelian Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001301c018a4$542b4940$de9e64d8@p266> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dear all, Apologies if this is a novice question. I have a pdf OCR capture web strategy question. The task: Converting old (pre-computer) Egyptology publications (with specialized fonts, text, and pictures on the pages) to text-searchable pdf online documents. The problem: OCR capture on grayscale scanned pages versus line art scanned pages. Option 1: If I scan pages as line art, the custom-font Egyptian words that AcrobatOCR can't handle would look pretty good as they are, if I decided to leave them as lineart scanned words and not alter them with the text touchup tool. DRAWBACK: Any pictures on that page will of course look ghastly due to the line art scan setting. Option 2: If I scan pages as grayscale, my photos of course look great. DRAWBACK: The custom-font Egyptian words that AcrobatOCR can't handle look horrible as flagged grayscale scanned words, and I really can't leave them as is, as I could with option 1 above. Of course, it would be best to fix these custom-font Egyptian words to be real text so that they could be searchable. But in touching up Acrobat files, and trying to make them universal for the web, I can't use my customized fonts within Acrobat, can I? What is my solution here? To scan pages as line art, leave the non-English words alone as scanned line art, and then scan the pages with photos AGAIN separately as grayscale, and in Acrobat start cutting the photos out and pasting them onto the line art pages? Sounds awfully labor intensive. Am I missing something here? Many thanks! Peter Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Sep-2000 13:48:37-GMT,4173;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07276 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:48:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27215; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:36:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:31:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26764; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:31:14 -0500 Received: from mail (mail.document-solutions.com [216.103.111.12]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26760 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:31:12 -0500 Received: from OAKLAND-Message_Server by mail with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 06:31:06 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 06:30:35 -0700 From: "Duff Johnson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] OCR capture, fonts, and pictures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA26761 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Peter: PDF is uniquely capable of displaying font data, bi-tonal (lineart) image data AND grayscale / color data on the same page. Option 1 is the correct way to go, you merely have to insert a cropped grayscale (or color) images into the ACD file as needed - it's in the documentation. Yes, it IS labor intensive, and VERY unforgiving of errors, to boot. That's why there are service bureaus.... Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com >>> pdm@world.std.com 09/07/00 05:04 AM >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dear all, Apologies if this is a novice question. I have a pdf OCR capture web strategy question. The task: Converting old (pre-computer) Egyptology publications (with specialized fonts, text, and pictures on the pages) to text-searchable pdf online documents. The problem: OCR capture on grayscale scanned pages versus line art scanned pages. Option 1: If I scan pages as line art, the custom-font Egyptian words that AcrobatOCR can't handle would look pretty good as they are, if I decided to leave them as lineart scanned words and not alter them with the text touchup tool. DRAWBACK: Any pictures on that page will of course look ghastly due to the line art scan setting. Option 2: If I scan pages as grayscale, my photos of course look great. DRAWBACK: The custom-font Egyptian words that AcrobatOCR can't handle look horrible as flagged grayscale scanned words, and I really can't leave them as is, as I could with option 1 above. Of course, it would be best to fix these custom-font Egyptian words to be real text so that they could be searchable. But in touching up Acrobat files, and tring to make them universal for the web, I can't use my customized fonts within Acrobat, can I? What is my solution here? To scan pages as line art, leave the non-English words alone as scanned line art, and then scan the pages with photos AGAIN separately as grayscale, and in Acrobat start cutting the photos out and pasting them onto the line art pages? Sounds awfully labor intensive. Am I missing something here? Many thanks! Peter Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Sep-2000 14:31:17-GMT,3763;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08317 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:31:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31281; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:22:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:18:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30842; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:18:26 -0500 Received: from smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu (smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu [152.2.1.139]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30838 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:18:25 -0500 Received: from [152.2.235.40] (iapetus.fpg.unc.edu [152.2.235.40]) by smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA19473 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:18:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009071418.KAA19473@smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 10:17:55 -0400 From: jbrady@email.unc.edu (Michael Brady) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Is PitStop clunky? Embedding fonts, too. X-Mailer: Siren Mail for Macintosh 4.0.2 X-Sender: jbrady@imap.unc.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am running Acrobat 4.0 suite on a G3 Mac and I am using PitStop 4.05 to do some nifty PDF editing. Often lately, I have made a change using PitStop and the page goes blank. Recently, I was using P-S to change the color of some fills. When I tried to close the file, I got an error message saying something to the effect that the operation cannot be completed because of colorspace problems. In another scenario, when I work on a PDF which does NOT have embedded fonts, I use the built-in Acrobat Text Attribute editor to embed the font. Sometimes, the font name is shown but the Embed checkbox is grayed out. Sometimes the font name doesn't even show up in the pop-up list (it's just blank). I have gotten used to the idea of every now and then Saving As to the same filename to optimize the file. This crashes Acrobat. Actually, it just goes away and I don't even get the Finder error message that the application has unexpectedly quit. Is PitStop causing any or all of this? Also, the PitStop manual says that you can embed fonts by using the Preflight Editor to select certain preferences. But I don't see how that works; making those embedding selections just seems to do nothing! Deconstructionist's subtext to this entire message: One of my responsibilities is to check our publications' online PDFs for integrity, compact size, fonts, etc. I do such things as downsample the images to 72 dpi and try to embed fonts. I use Acrobat's built-in Text Attribute editor to do that, usually. But it doesn't work consistently. I have also exported the PostScript and redistilled it using 100% subset font embedding options. No luck, either. Any thoughts on how to embed fonts when rehabilitating a PDF file? Thanks. Adidas, amigos. ------------------- Michael Brady 16 Pedestal Rock Lane Durham, NC 27712 Voice 919 471 9554 fax 919 962 2707 jbrady@email.unc.edu http://www.unc.edu/~jbrady/index.html Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Sep-2000 15:34:55-GMT,3234;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10248 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:34:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03804; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:25:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:19:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03327; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:19:44 -0500 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03323 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:19:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 27671 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2000 15:19:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jacquesdb) ([213.224.11.56]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Sep 2000 15:19:42 -0000 From: "Jacques De Bruyne" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Is PitStop clunky? Embedding fonts, too. Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:22:18 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c018df$69aa0e60$0e00a8c0@jacquesdb> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <200009071418.KAA19473@smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA03324 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Michael, If your main objective is to repurpose your publications for online viewing, you might want to use WebPerfect PDF. WebPerfect PDF is built on PitStop Professional technology and does what you describe in your email. You can find more information on the features of WebPerfect on http://www.enfocus.com/webperfect_pdf.htm or http://www.enfocus.com/support/Documentation/WebPerfect%20PDF/ We would be more than happy to look into the other issue with font embedding but we would need your PDF document for this. You can send your PDF document to our support group at support@enfocus.be Kind regards, =========================================== Jacques De Bruyne, Software support manager Enfocus Software NV Kleindokkaai 3-5, B-9000 Gent, Belgium Voice: +32 9 269 16 90 Fax: +32 9 269 16 91 Email: support@enfocus.com Web: www.enfocus.com Please include all correspondence regarding support questions. ============================================================== Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Sep-2000 16:01:01-GMT,4151;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10993 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:00:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06065; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:50:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:45:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05695; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:45:47 -0500 Received: from radmail.rad.co.il (radmail.rad.co.il [207.232.32.10]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05683 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 10:45:43 -0500 Received: from taly-r ([192.114.26.219]) by radmail.rad.co.il (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54115U1200L1200S0V35) with SMTP id il for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 18:37:31 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <39B7C2C1.000015.28347@taly-r.rad.co.il> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 18:30:57 +0200 (Israel Standard Time) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_L7ZIYHI1VA4000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail 1.0 From: "Taly Reinish" To: Subject: [PDF] plug in X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ --------------Boundary-00=_L7ZIYHI1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_L7ZITSM1VA4000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_L7ZITSM1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone can help me finding pluin for acrobat? thanks! taly --------------Boundary-00=_L7ZITSM1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/related; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_L7ZIO2Q1VA4000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_L7ZIO2Q1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
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Tel:64-9-486-2879 Fax:64-9-486-5588 Website: http://www.apt.co.nz (Accelerated Business & Project Planning) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Swallow" To: Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:27 PM Subject: [PDF] Annotation > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Does anyone know of a good alternative to Acrobat or Business tools for > annotating PDF files? The cheaper the better as we need to distribute this > to many users for an approval process. Preferably a plug in to reader. > > Thanks Neil > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Sep-2000 19:59:58-GMT,2559;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17912 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:59:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22284; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:46:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:39:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21772; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:39:46 -0500 Received: from smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu (smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu [152.2.1.139]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21768 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:39:43 -0500 Received: from [152.2.235.40] (iapetus.fpg.unc.edu [152.2.235.40]) by smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA05550 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009071939.PAA05550@smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:39:12 -0400 From: jbrady@email.unc.edu (Michael Brady) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Nueva MM instances aren't in PDF font list, and I can't add them X-Mailer: Siren Mail for Macintosh 4.0.2 X-Sender: jbrady@imap.unc.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am working on an exitsing PDF that was created from a QXP file. On one page, it uses some instances of Adobe's Nueva MM. Distiller told me it couldn't find these fonts NuevaMM:FEA.CAA NuevaMM:DDA.EHF NuevaMM:DDA.CAA NuevaMM:FEA.HFA Thinking these referred to instances of the MM, I tried to generate them with the font engerator from within ATMDeluxe. Can't seem to do it. That letter scheme didn't appear as part of the naming scheme for MM instances. Anybody got any idea what these names refer to? Thanks. ------------------- Michael Brady 16 Pedestal Rock Lane Durham, NC 27712 Voice 919 471 9554 fax 919 962 2707 jbrady@email.unc.edu http://www.unc.edu/~jbrady/index.html Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Sep-2000 21:46:12-GMT,2299;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21245 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:46:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29306; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:34:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:28:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28866; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:28:32 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28862 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:28:31 -0500 Received: from feinberg ([12.68.100.185]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000907212818.JBHL17935.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@feinberg> for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:28:18 +0000 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000907172024.00e6ceb0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 17:22:40 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Re: Annotation [wanting a cheap PDF Viewer] In-Reply-To: <200009071833.NAA16866@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Zeon makes a very cheap PDF tool. I cannot vouch for it in any way - I just saw it for the first time at Seybold. They were showing a $50 PDF viewer that looked like it could add some annotations. http://www.zeon.com.tw Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Sep-2000 4:24:44-GMT,3327;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00279 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:24:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19720; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:13:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:07:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19404; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:07:57 -0500 Received: from smtp3.ev1.net ([207.218.192.47]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19400 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:07:55 -0500 Received: from ev1.net [216.88.79.55] by smtp3.ev1.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A65A2FB00E2; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:08:58 -0500 Message-ID: <39B85A4A.29A88D0B@ev1.net> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:17:30 -0400 From: Mark Schaffhausen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] form submit for photoshop pdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ hi all. first post here so i hope these haven't been discussed before. i'm using acrobat 4.0 in windows 2000. i have a client with many (many) paper forms they want to be available online and can submit the information into a database. creating the forms and the database is no problem. however i've found some oddities and am looking for confirmations and/or work arounds. any help or suggestions would be appreciated. here's what i did: scan the pages in using photoshop or acrobat and save as pdf. create form fields over the image below creating an online form that is submitted to a cold fusion script. these forms wouldn't submit. HOWEVER if i create an html page containing the same image (converted to jpg) and import it into acrobat and overlay the form it submits fine. also if i open the original photoshop pdf and copy the image into a blank pdf made from a blank imported html page it also works fine. my question is: why won't the original scan work? i shouldn't have to use some type of html base to submit the data. should i? i get an error message that says there's no input page data available (not exact message). it's not empty...what about the form field values? i can get the exact same error message by trying to import an empty html page. it won't do it. i had to make mine by importing an html page with one word on it and then delete the text in acrobat. oddly enough it resaves and reopens blank just fine. can anyone confirm this? anyone have any experience in this or try it out? i can give the script url to submit to if necessary. thanks in advance mark Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Sep-2000 12:28:40-GMT,4095;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA08741 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:28:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12407; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:20:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:14:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12015; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:13:59 -0500 Received: from heraut.schneider.fr (heraut.schneider.fr [139.160.111.41]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12010 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:13:55 -0500 From: roland_bonnin@mail.schneider.fr Received: by heraut.schneider.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.2) id OAA15838 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:00:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail(139.160.111.76), claiming to be "ateu0250.eud.schneider-electric.com"via SMTP by heraut, id smtpdEAAa003qB; Fri Sep 8 13:59:50 2000 Received: by ateu0250.eud.schneider-electric.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) id C1256954.00431CD2 ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:13:02 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: EUROPE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:11:38 +0200 Subject: [PDF] viewing PDF files with Communicator 4 (and so on) in a on-linecatalog Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello (and apologise for qulaity of english, I'm french) We developped a on-line catalog (you can see it at : http://194.2.245.4) with various possibilities like find a product with reference, name, range to which it belongs to, functions it realizes and so on... The cybernaut can configure it with mechanical accessories, electrical auxiliaries, put references in a basket and many other possibilities. We propose a navigation in a PDF catalogue, wich is exactly like the paper catalogues, our costumers have. But infortunately, a cybernaut with MacOSwill see nothing. If you are on Windows (no matter IE or Communicator), you see in the menu bar below : catalogue papier (paper catalogue). If you go, you have opportunities to navigate in PDF pages, as proposed in a Windows-like menu on the left. The problem is : this runs with IE on Mac (but we have another problem while selecting technical characteristics) and Communicator on Mac, but only the first time. We know the bogue with Communicator when opening PDF files in a frame. The solution consists to clean out the frame before requesting a new PDF file. So you can navigate in the PDF pages. No problem. But, if you resize the opened window, Communicator does nothing and quits unexpectedly a few seconds after. For these reasons, an cybernaut on Mac has not access to the "paper catalog". He sees nothing about. Netscape and Adobe gave me a response on it. Netscape : "Adobe Systems is aware of the problem and is working on a fix for Acrobat Reader...Concerns, yashwant" Adobe :" our engineer team is aware of this problem and works for a fix but we have no dead-line". Anyone have a comment ? or can suggests a way to obtain a solution, it will be nice. I am ready to put a lot of money. Many thanks in advance -------------------- Roland Bonnin Schneider Electric SA Direction Promotion Communication Centre Paul Louis Merlin Meylan (France) roland_bonnin@mail.schneider.fr http://www.schneider-electric.fr Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Sep-2000 13:47:15-GMT,4501;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10182 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17840; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:40:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:35:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17416; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:35:10 -0500 Received: from mail.thebault.com (mail.thebault.com [207.26.64.66]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17403 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:35:08 -0500 Received: from exchange.thebault.com (exchange) by mail.thebault.com with ESMTP id JAA22143 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for ); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:36:12 -0400 Message-ID: <8918501E0892D211AD1200600852E9C308643E@exchange> From: "Shick, Rebecca" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Is PitStop clunky? Embedding fonts, too. Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:36:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Have you installed any new Acrobat plugins lately? I had some similar problems (conflicts) with Pitstop and Scitex Spot color plugin. -----Original Message----- From: jbrady@email.unc.edu [mailto:jbrady@email.unc.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:18 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Is PitStop clunky? Embedding fonts, too. The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am running Acrobat 4.0 suite on a G3 Mac and I am using PitStop 4.05 to do some nifty PDF editing. Often lately, I have made a change using PitStop and the page goes blank. Recently, I was using P-S to change the color of some fills. When I tried to close the file, I got an error message saying something to the effect that the operation cannot be completed because of colorspace problems. In another scenario, when I work on a PDF which does NOT have embedded fonts, I use the built-in Acrobat Text Attribute editor to embed the font. Sometimes, the font name is shown but the Embed checkbox is grayed out. Sometimes the font name doesn't even show up in the pop-up list (it's just blank). I have gotten used to the idea of every now and then Saving As to the same filename to optimize the file. This crashes Acrobat. Actually, it just goes away and I don't even get the Finder error message that the application has unexpectedly quit. Is PitStop causing any or all of this? Also, the PitStop manual says that you can embed fonts by using the Preflight Editor to select certain preferences. But I don't see how that works; making those embedding selections just seems to do nothing! Deconstructionist's subtext to this entire message: One of my responsibilities is to check our publications' online PDFs for integrity, compact size, fonts, etc. I do such things as downsample the images to 72 dpi and try to embed fonts. I use Acrobat's built-in Text Attribute editor to do that, usually. But it doesn't work consistently. I have also exported the PostScript and redistilled it using 100% subset font embedding options. No luck, either. Any thoughts on how to embed fonts when rehabilitating a PDF file? Thanks. Adidas, amigos. ------------------- Michael Brady 16 Pedestal Rock Lane Durham, NC 27712 Voice 919 471 9554 fax 919 962 2707 jbrady@email.unc.edu http://www.unc.edu/~jbrady/index.html Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Sep-2000 13:47:16-GMT,1831;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10186 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:47:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17950; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:41:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:36:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17539; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:36:43 -0500 Received: from mail.optiuminc.com (132.126.207.205.rev.connection.ca [205.207.126.132]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17535; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:36:41 -0500 Message-id: Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 09:39:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] viewing PDF files with Communicator 4 (and so on) in a on-linecatalog To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: liz@optiuminc.com (Liz A. 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Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Sep-2000 15:26:13-GMT,2678;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12503 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:26:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25552; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:18:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:13:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25187; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:13:03 -0500 Received: from mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (mx1.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.112.76]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25172 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:13:00 -0500 From: tedken@manning.com Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11950; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bqej0 (d121-67.smfrct.optonline.net [24.188.121.67]) by s1.optonline.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e88FCxl14573; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009081512.e88FCxl14573@s1.optonline.net> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:20:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] New book on PDF Forms CC: tedken@manning.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We are evaluating a new book on problem solving with PDF forms and are looking for a few people with the right qualifications to review and comment on the manuscript. 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E-mail: tedken@manning.com 32 Lafayette Place Greenwich, CT 06830 For more information on Manning books, see http://www.manning.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Sep-2000 15:48:05-GMT,4978;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13170 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:48:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27265; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:39:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:34:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26920; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:34:44 -0500 Received: from exchange.kayesmith.com (ftp.kayesmith.com [208.222.254.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26916 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:34:43 -0500 Received: by 175.infobaz.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:28:38 -0700 Message-ID: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE01329CD@175.infobaz.com> From: Matt Beals To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Is PitStop clunky? Embedding fonts, too. Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:28:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have had no problems with the Scitex Spot Color plug-in or PitStop using Acrobat 4 or 4.0.x. Other than those, I have only the basic Adobe plug-ins. Matt Beals -----Original Message----- From: Shick, Rebecca [mailto:RShick@thebault.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:36 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Is PitStop clunky? Embedding fonts, too. The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Have you installed any new Acrobat plugins lately? I had some similar problems (conflicts) with Pitstop and Scitex Spot color plugin. -----Original Message----- From: jbrady@email.unc.edu [mailto:jbrady@email.unc.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:18 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Is PitStop clunky? Embedding fonts, too. The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am running Acrobat 4.0 suite on a G3 Mac and I am using PitStop 4.05 to do some nifty PDF editing. Often lately, I have made a change using PitStop and the page goes blank. Recently, I was using P-S to change the color of some fills. When I tried to close the file, I got an error message saying something to the effect that the operation cannot be completed because of colorspace problems. In another scenario, when I work on a PDF which does NOT have embedded fonts, I use the built-in Acrobat Text Attribute editor to embed the font. Sometimes, the font name is shown but the Embed checkbox is grayed out. Sometimes the font name doesn't even show up in the pop-up list (it's just blank). I have gotten used to the idea of every now and then Saving As to the same filename to optimize the file. This crashes Acrobat. Actually, it just goes away and I don't even get the Finder error message that the application has unexpectedly quit. Is PitStop causing any or all of this? Also, the PitStop manual says that you can embed fonts by using the Preflight Editor to select certain preferences. But I don't see how that works; making those embedding selections just seems to do nothing! Deconstructionist's subtext to this entire message: One of my responsibilities is to check our publications' online PDFs for integrity, compact size, fonts, etc. I do such things as downsample the images to 72 dpi and try to embed fonts. I use Acrobat's built-in Text Attribute editor to do that, usually. But it doesn't work consistently. I have also exported the PostScript and redistilled it using 100% subset font embedding options. No luck, either. Any thoughts on how to embed fonts when rehabilitating a PDF file? Thanks. Adidas, amigos. ------------------- Michael Brady 16 Pedestal Rock Lane Durham, NC 27712 Voice 919 471 9554 fax 919 962 2707 jbrady@email.unc.edu http://www.unc.edu/~jbrady/index.html Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Sep-2000 18:27:16-GMT,1965;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17769 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:27:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04708; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:09:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:59:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03988; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:59:09 -0500 Received: from smtp.interlog.com (qmailr@[154.11.89.190]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA03984 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:59:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 17271 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2000 17:59:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?154.5.121.50?) (154.5.121.50) by 154.11.89.190 with SMTP; 8 Sep 2000 17:59:07 -0000 X-Sender: mmccombs@pop.psi.ca (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:18:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: [PDF] RE: shipped 4.05 updates Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Has anyone successfully received the 4.05 CDROM update from Adobe. They claim to have shipped Aug 7/2000, but no where in sight yet. Didn't know the "Pony Express" was still in business!!! - Murray Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Sep-2000 19:09:33-GMT,2896;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18914 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:09:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08555; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:56:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:49:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07949; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:49:19 -0500 Received: from mail.thebault.com (mail.thebault.com [207.26.64.66]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07945 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:49:17 -0500 Received: from exchange.thebault.com (exchange) by mail.thebault.com with ESMTP id OAA24168 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for ); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:50:22 -0400 Message-ID: <8918501E0892D211AD1200600852E9C3086445@exchange> From: "Shick, Rebecca" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: shipped 4.05 updates Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:50:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ When the update was announced, Adobe stated that it would automatically ship to all registered users of 4.0. I waited patiently (for months) and received nothing. I called to inquire and received my disks (pc and mac) within a week thereafter. Sometimes you have to help these things along. -----Original Message----- From: Murray McCombs [mailto:mmccombs@interlog.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 1:18 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: shipped 4.05 updates The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Has anyone successfully received the 4.05 CDROM update from Adobe. They claim to have shipped Aug 7/2000, but no where in sight yet. 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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:11:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have a website that runs strictly off of a CD. The site is done in html, but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to search them. Are there any 3rd party search utilities available that can be run from a CD that will search and index the PDF files? M. Ioco Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Sep-2000 19:50:23-GMT,2587;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20083 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:50:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12150; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:41:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:37:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11802; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:37:18 -0500 Received: from fraserinstitute.ca (burrard.fraserinstitute.ca [207.102.5.157]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11788 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:37:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 27716 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2000 19:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ltm.fraserinstitute.ca) (192.168.10.130) by burrard with SMTP; 7 Sep 2000 19:38:36 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000908123359.00adf630@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca> X-Sender: lindseym@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 12:36:56 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" From: Lindsey Thomas Martin Subject: Re: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... In-Reply-To: <4E6A7BDC24CDD311B11400508BDF0A3801A4ABFA@usahm009.exmi01.e xch.eds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 15:11 9/8/00 -0400, Ioco, Michael S wrote: >I have a website that runs strictly off of a CD. The site is done in html, >but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to >search them. Are there any 3rd party search utilities available that can be >run from a CD that will search and index the PDF files? Not sure what you mean by "a website that runs strictly off a CD" but have a look at pdfwebsearch from James Rile Associates Tel: (610) 983-3682 Fax: (267) 200-0004 http://www.pdfwebsearch.com Lindsey Martin Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Sep-2000 19:50:35-GMT,2587;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20094 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:50:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12149; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:41:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:37:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11814; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:37:20 -0500 Received: from fraserinstitute.ca (burrard.fraserinstitute.ca [207.102.5.157]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11786 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:37:14 -0500 Received: (qmail 27716 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2000 19:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ltm.fraserinstitute.ca) (192.168.10.130) by burrard with SMTP; 7 Sep 2000 19:38:36 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000908123359.00adf630@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca> X-Sender: lindseym@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 12:36:56 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" From: Lindsey Thomas Martin Subject: Re: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... In-Reply-To: <4E6A7BDC24CDD311B11400508BDF0A3801A4ABFA@usahm009.exmi01.e xch.eds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 15:11 9/8/00 -0400, Ioco, Michael S wrote: >I have a website that runs strictly off of a CD. The site is done in html, >but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to >search them. Are there any 3rd party search utilities available that can be >run from a CD that will search and index the PDF files? Not sure what you mean by "a website that runs strictly off a CD" but have a look at pdfwebsearch from James Rile Associates Tel: (610) 983-3682 Fax: (267) 200-0004 http://www.pdfwebsearch.com Lindsey Martin Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 7:44:33-GMT,2359;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22975 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 01:44:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24716; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 02:09:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 01:57:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23928; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 01:56:57 -0500 Received: from knowwrks.demon.co.uk (demon-gw.william-reed.net [195.173.119.145]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23924 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 01:56:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Stuart Slaney To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: shipped 4.05 updates Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:58:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ received ours 2 months ago. > ---------- > From: Murray McCombs > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, September 8, 2000 6:18 pm > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] RE: shipped 4.05 updates > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Has anyone successfully received the 4.05 CDROM update from Adobe. > > They claim to have shipped Aug 7/2000, but no where in sight yet. Didn't > know the "Pony Express" was still in business!!! > > - Murray > > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 8:39:49-GMT,2376;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23872 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 02:39:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29256; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 03:17:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 03:10:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28801; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 03:10:16 -0500 Received: from thefreeinternet.co.uk (hermes-3.bizonline.net [212.95.128.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA28790 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 03:10:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 26611 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2000 08:09:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 5120) (213.108.36.11) by hermes-3.bizonline.net with SMTP; 11 Sep 2000 08:09:40 -0000 Message-ID: <003f01c01bc7$efb17440$0b246cd5@5120> From: "Andy Kemp" To: References: <200009110656.BAA23947@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Font Width Problem Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:11:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ When I scan a page into Acrobat, and OCR it, any dubious words are highlit. This is fine, except that when I change or accept the word, it is set to 80% width. With the text touch-up tool I can change the font, the point size etc (so it isn't a font embedding thing ...) but I can't change the font width back to 100% for love nor money. This is driving me nuts! Anyone got an idea???? Andy Kemp Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 12:59:12-GMT,3264;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28207 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:59:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10329; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:48:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:41:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09901; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:41:37 -0500 Received: from ahmler3.mail.eds.com (ahmler3.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.74]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09897 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:41:35 -0500 Received: from ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (ahmlir1-2.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.25]) by ahmler3.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8BCfTY01376 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8BCfNE12084 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:41:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com (usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com [207.37.138.190]) by ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8BCfNS12060 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:41:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:41:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4E6A7BDC24CDD311B11400508BDF0A3801A4ABFB@usahm009.exmi01.exch.eds.com> From: "Ioco, Michael S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:41:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ From: Lindsey Thomas Martin <I have a website that runs strictly off of a CD. The site is done in html, >but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to >search them. Are there any 3rd party search utilities available that can be >run from a CD that will search and index the PDF files? <> When I say that the site will be running strictly off a CD, I mean just that. It's not on the internet, it's on a CD. The "site" is really just a user interface to several hundred documents. This pdfwebsearch looks nice, but I need something that can run by itself, off of a CD. Michael Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 13:04:38-GMT,2582;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28303 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:04:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11124; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:57:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:51:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10606; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:51:52 -0500 Received: from ns.nternet.net (root@[64.92.64.14]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10602 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:51:50 -0500 Received: from nternet.net (JAX-TNT3-pool1-145.coastalnet.com [216.10.175.145]) by ns.nternet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30608 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:51:48 -0400 Message-ID: <39BCD5FC.F454D9AC@nternet.net> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:54:20 -0400 From: "Michael Kies, Delex NKT" Organization: Delex Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] OCR capture, fonts, and pictures References: <200009071833.NAA16866@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Peter wrote: > The task: Converting old (pre-computer) Egyptology publications (with > specialized fonts, text, and pictures on the pages) to text-searchable pdf > online documents. > > The problem: OCR capture on grayscale scanned pages versus line art scanned > pages... > I would investigate using Presto OCR Pro 4.0. I've used version 3 to capture documents and send them to MS Word (and then to PDF) and it is very powerful, yet affordable software (about US $100). In addition, you can develop custom languages for recognition. Also, the new version 4 has PDF output capabilities. Go to http://www.newsoftinc.com/ for more info. Michael Kies Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 15:41:43-GMT,3298;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01823 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:41:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22111; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:34:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:29:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21709; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:29:49 -0500 Received: from mail (mail.document-solutions.com [216.103.111.12]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21705 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:29:48 -0500 Received: from OAKLAND-Message_Server by mail with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:29:26 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:28:49 -0700 From: "Duff Johnson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA21706 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >From: Lindsey Thomas Martin ><>I have a website that runs strictly off of a CD. The site is done in html, >>but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to >>search them. Are there any 3rd party search utilities available that can be >>run from a CD that will search and index the PDF files? > ><but have a look at pdfwebsearch from James Rile Associates >> > >When I say that the site will be running strictly off a CD, I mean just >that. It's not on the internet, it's on a CD. The "site" is really just a >user interface to several hundred documents. This pdfwebsearch looks nice, >but I need something that can run by itself, off of a CD. OK... first, a website does not, by definition, run off a CD-ROM expect when that CD-ROM contains content served by an IP (Web) server connected to the Internet. So... the clarification question was appropriate. It sounds like you have a CD-ROM of HTML navigation files and PDF content files. The cheap way to do it would be to include a link from the HTML to a PDF file that loads a Catalog index and launches the Acrobat Search Dialog. Cheap as in free (assuming you have Acrobat).... Other solutions cost $$, and are usually NOT cross-platform friendly. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 16:26:00-GMT,3448;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03334 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:25:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18073; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:42:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:36:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17658; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:36:55 -0500 Received: from ns.compusense.com ([209.183.140.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17647 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:36:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 13429 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2000 10:38:09 -0000 Received: from mail.int.compusense.com (192.168.1.8) by gw.compusense.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2000 10:38:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 1660 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2000 14:32:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Lynda) (192.168.1.111) by mail.int.compusense.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2000 14:32:04 -0000 From: "Lynda Baxter" To: Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 vs 4.05 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:37:41 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01c01bfd$d7331960$6f01a8c0@Lynda.int.compusense.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Tried posting this before with no success. We're trying to resolve a print production problem that our print service bureau is claiming must be the result of a difference in pdf creation between Acrobat version 4.0 and 4.05. Last October they printed (via Xerox Docutech) a software manual just fine from a pdf we created in Acrobat 4.0. The latest pdf file was created in 4.05, but the output quality is not as good. In the printed document, the graphics/screen captures are not as crisp (the screen background seems much more pixilated) and we are not happy! Has anyone experienced this? Have the default job settings been changed in 4.05? The manual was authored in Word97, and the pdf created via the PDF Maker/Distiller using the PrintOptimized option (Note: no job settings were changed). When I print inhouse to our HP8000 Series PS, there is no quality difference between the two files. I'm wondering if the service bureau is doing something differently on the Xerox Docutech, but I don't know enough about that end of the process to counter their argument: that the problem must be the pdf file, not the Docutech. Should I be tweaking the job settings and not relying on the PrintOptimized setting? I'd appreciate any help because this has me stymied! Lynda Baxter Technical Writer Compusense Inc. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 16:25:59-GMT,4771;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03331 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:25:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20039; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:05:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:00:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19688; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:00:42 -0500 Received: from grafikhuset01.grafikhuset ([193.89.186.226]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19664 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:00:35 -0500 Received: by GRAFIKHUSET01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:38:38 +0200 Message-ID: <21E910ECB07BD211951D0080C87E974F108762@GRAFIKHUSET01> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacob_Sch=E4ffer?= To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 vs 4.05 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:38:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA19672 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ The PrintOptimized setting may destroy screendumps if these are stored as 24 bit RGB images, which they likely are if they are pasted into MS Word with a true colour display driver. In addition, if these images are scaled in MS Word too, the results may be unpredictable. Best results are achieved with *NO* downsampling and ZIP compression ONLY in the Distiller JobOptions (except for lineart, where CCITT Group 4 should do). 'Automatic' compression will in most cases allow Distiller to JPEG compress (and destroy) such screendumps. Best regards Jacob Schäffer DTP/Technical support -------------------------------------------- Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Prs. Maries Allé 17 DK-1908 Frederiksberg C Denmark Tel: +45 33 25 19 58. Fax: +45 33 25 19 57 Web: http://www.grafikhuset.dk and http://www.preflight2000.com Grafikhuset is a full service prepress center offering * Imaging * Desktop publishing of any kind * Web design and automation * Advanced PDF workflow setup and tools * Prepress troubleshooting * Education and training * PostScript programming * Specialized software for the graphical industry. -----Original Message----- From: Lynda Baxter [mailto:lbaxter@compusense.com] Sent: 11. september 2000 16:38 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 vs 4.05 The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Tried posting this before with no success. We're trying to resolve a print production problem that our print service bureau is claiming must be the result of a difference in pdf creation between Acrobat version 4.0 and 4.05. Last October they printed (via Xerox Docutech) a software manual just fine from a pdf we created in Acrobat 4.0. The latest pdf file was created in 4.05, but the output quality is not as good. In the printed document, the graphics/screen captures are not as crisp (the screen background seems much more pixilated) and we are not happy! Has anyone experienced this? Have the default job settings been changed in 4.05? The manual was authored in Word97, and the pdf created via the PDF Maker/Distiller using the PrintOptimized option (Note: no job settings were changed). When I print inhouse to our HP8000 Series PS, there is no quality difference between the two files. I'm wondering if the service bureau is doing something differently on the Xerox Docutech, but I don't know enough about that end of the process to counter their argument: that the problem must be the pdf file, not the Docutech. Should I be tweaking the job settings and not relying on the PrintOptimized setting? I'd appreciate any help because this has me stymied! Lynda Baxter Technical Writer Compusense Inc. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 16:43:34-GMT,2643;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04055 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:43:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26129; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:31:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:26:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25745; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:26:36 -0500 Received: from mario.zyan.com (mario.zyan.com [209.250.96.140]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25741 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:26:34 -0500 Received: from [208.41.130.163] ([208.41.130.163]) by mario.zyan.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA73777 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:26:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from miller@performancegraphics.com) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:25:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... From: "C. Scott Miller" To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4E6A7BDC24CDD311B11400508BDF0A3801A4ABFA@usahm009.exmi01.exch.eds.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ on 9/8/00 12:11 PM, Ioco, Michael S at michael.ioco@eds.com wrote: > The site is done in html, > but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to > search them. You might consider converting your HTML pages to PDF using Web Capture {on Acrobat 4.x) so that you have a single interface for all. The additional benefit is that you don't have to worry about installed browser issues. Acrobat Catalog indexes and Reader+Search work very well on a CD. -- C. Scott Miller Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com PDF Research Companion A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 18:22:57-GMT,3438;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06970 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:22:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32645; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:11:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:06:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA32268; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:06:25 -0500 Received: from ns1.eds.com (ns1.eds.com [192.85.154.78]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32261 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:06:24 -0500 Received: from ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (ahmlir1-2.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.25]) by ns1.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8BI6Hx13148 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8BI6Cv21595 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com (usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com [207.37.138.190]) by ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8BI6BO21573 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:06:11 -0400 Message-ID: <4E6A7BDC24CDD311B11400508BDF0A3801A4ABFD@usahm009.exmi01.exch.eds.com> From: "Ioco, Michael S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:06:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Duff Johnson [mailto:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] OK... first, a website does not, by definition, run off a CD-ROM expect when that CD-ROM contains content served by an IP (Web) server connected to the Internet. So... the clarification question was appropriate. It sounds like you have a CD-ROM of HTML navigation files and PDF content files. The cheap way to do it would be to include a link from the HTML to a PDF file that loads a Catalog index and launches the Acrobat Search Dialog. Cheap as in free (assuming you have Acrobat).... Other solutions cost $$, and are usually NOT cross-platform friendly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You're right. I was afraid that would cause some confusion. Great clarification. I'm not sure I understand your "cheap solution." How would I prevent that PDF from opening Acrobat inside the browser and how would I launch the Search Dialog? Can you give me some more detail? 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA01271 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >From: Duff Johnson [mailto:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] >OK... first, a website does not, by definition, run off a CD-ROM expect when >that CD-ROM contains content served by an IP (Web) server connected to the >Internet. So... the clarification question was appropriate. > >It sounds like you have a CD-ROM of HTML navigation files and PDF content >files. The cheap way to do it would be to include a link from the HTML to >a PDF file that loads a Catalog index and launches the Acrobat Search >Dialog. Cheap as in free (assuming you have Acrobat).... Other solutions >cost $$, and are usually NOT cross-platform friendly. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >You're right. I was afraid that would cause some confusion. Great >clarification. > >I'm not sure I understand your "cheap solution." How would I prevent that >PDF from opening Acrobat inside the browser and how would I launch the >Search Dialog? Can you give me some more detail? Actually, Scott Miller's suggestion is better than my original suggestion - I had assumed that you HAD to use HTML for the navigation pages for some reason. For a static collection (as exists on a CD-ROM) PDF is preferable for both content AND navigation pages (that's how we do our CD-ROMs). This would eliminate the issues to which you refer. In this context, you can launch the Search dialog with a simple Link to a Menu Item. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 19:01:12-GMT,3293;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08087 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:01:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03654; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:50:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:46:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03179; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:46:16 -0500 Received: from ahmler1.mail.eds.com (ahmler1.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.77]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03165 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:46:08 -0500 Received: from ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (ahmlir1-2.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.25]) by ahmler1.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8BIkO516931 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8BIk0v17439 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com (usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com [207.37.138.190]) by ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8BIirO15360 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:44:54 -0400 Message-ID: <4E6A7BDC24CDD311B11400508BDF0A3801A4ABFF@usahm009.exmi01.exch.eds.com> From: "Ioco, Michael S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:44:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: C. Scott Miller [mailto:miller@performancegraphics.com] on 9/8/00 12:11 PM, Ioco, Michael S at michael.ioco@eds.com wrote: > The site is done in html, > but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to > search them. You might consider converting your HTML pages to PDF using Web Capture {on Acrobat 4.x) so that you have a single interface for all. The additional benefit is that you don't have to worry about installed browser issues. Acrobat Catalog indexes and Reader+Search work very well on a CD. -- That is a REALLY, REALLY good idea! My only problem is that I'm using frames to hold the PDF document in. The HTML pages hold the navigation to move quickly from one PDF to another other -- my whole purpose in using HTML. Hmmmmm........ getting warmer......... 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA04682 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >From: C. Scott Miller [mailto:miller@performancegraphics.com] >on 9/8/00 12:11 PM, Ioco, Michael S at michael.ioco@eds.com wrote: > >> The site is done in html, >> but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to >> search them. > >You might consider converting your HTML pages to PDF using Web Capture {on >Acrobat 4.x) so that you have a single interface for all. The additional >benefit is that you don't have to worry about installed browser issues. >Acrobat Catalog indexes and Reader+Search work very well on a CD. > >That is a REALLY, REALLY good idea! My only problem is that I'm using >frames to hold the PDF document in. The HTML pages hold the navigation to >move quickly from one PDF to another other -- my whole purpose in using >HTML. > >Hmmmmm........ getting warmer......... Why not use Bookmarks on the PDFs instead? You can link to other documents, or back to navigation menus directly from the PDFs.... Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 21:32:31-GMT,2591;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12641 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:32:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14367; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:24:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:16:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13873; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:16:48 -0500 Received: from tio.tiocom (mail3.tio.com [207.211.39.56]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13868 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:16:46 -0500 Received: from aia-inc.com (unverified [209.233.135.236]) by tio.tiocom (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:22:18 -0700 Received: from aiawdoc8g8f9iv [10.101.11.2] by aia-inc.com [10.101.11.254] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP1.R) for ; Mon, 11 Sep 100 14:18:59 +0100 Message-ID: <02a301c01c35$006e0ab0$020b650a@aiawdoc8g8f9iv> From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: References: Subject: [PDF] Stamp a image of a Signature - How? Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:12:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Im looking for a tool/plug-in/method/code cut ... anything... that will allow me to "stamp" a scanned image of my handwritten signature on a signature line of an existing pdf /pdf form. ie... sign an insurance application. Thank you in advance! Stephen M. Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. 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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:11:10 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: geojohn@att.net Message-Id: <20000911221111.NVZM6605.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Im looking for a tool/plug-in/method/code cut ... > anything... that will allow me to "stamp" a scanned > image of my handwritten signature on a signature line > of an existing pdf /pdf form. What type of environment? Will the Stamp tool in Acrobat 4 do? George Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Sep-2000 23:44:05-GMT,2655;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15745 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:44:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21727; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:26:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:20:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21346; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:20:22 -0500 Received: from tio.tiocom (mail3.tio.com [207.211.39.56]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21331 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:20:11 -0500 Received: from aia-inc.com (unverified [209.233.135.236]) by tio.tiocom (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:25:43 -0700 Received: from aiawdoc8g8f9iv [10.101.11.2] by aia-inc.com [10.101.11.254] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP1.R) for ; Mon, 11 Sep 100 16:21:40 +0100 Message-ID: <03b701c01c46$245320d0$020b650a@aiawdoc8g8f9iv> From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: References: <20000911221111.NVZM6605.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Stamp a image of a Signature - How? Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:15:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Duoooh! WIN95/98/2k - Acrobat 4 (full version) Stamp tool? What did I miss? Im so embarrassed now .... Steve > > Im looking for a tool/plug-in/method/code cut ... > > anything... that will allow me to "stamp" a scanned > > image of my handwritten signature on a signature line > > of an existing pdf /pdf form. > > What type of environment? Will the Stamp tool in Acrobat > 4 do? > > George Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 0:20:44-GMT,2664;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16487 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:20:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24098; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:03:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:59:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23776; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:59:08 -0500 Received: from 38.164.135.2 ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23771 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:59:06 -0500 Received: from [207.29.200.50] ([63.86.139.87] ) by 38.164.135.2 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 70798 via TCP with SMTP; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:58:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <02a301c01c35$006e0ab0$020b650a@aiawdoc8g8f9iv> References: <02a301c01c35$006e0ab0$020b650a@aiawdoc8g8f9iv> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:00:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Stamp a image of a Signature - How? Cc: steve.aylor@aia-inc.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 2:12 PM -0700 9/11/00, Stephen M. Aylor wrote: >Im looking for a tool/plug-in/method/code cut ... anything... that will >allow me to "stamp" a scanned image of my handwritten signature on a >signature line of an existing pdf /pdf form. > >ie... sign an insurance application. > StampPDF from Digital Applications (). Impress from MapSoft () Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 0:47:31-GMT,2663;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17047 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:47:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26077; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:35:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:29:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25671; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:29:16 -0500 Received: from wormhole.bluestar.net (wormhole.bluestar.net [208.53.1.61]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25667 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:29:13 -0500 Received: from jaramstudios.com ([208.53.177.24]) by wormhole.bluestar.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8C0TCN06361 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:29:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <39BD78D8.C5A84634@jaramstudios.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:29:13 -0400 From: jhf Organization: jaramstudios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] job options Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We are currently using Quark XPress on Macs to make PDFs to send finished newspaper pages to printers all over the country. Each printer has a different job setting for Distiller. In addition to all of these options, we also need to use the screen optimized setting to send proofs of ads and pages back to the publishers to be viewed on their screens. Presently, we have to go to Distiller each time we make a PDF from our Quark pages to make sure the correct job options are selected. My question: Is there any third-party extension or any other way of being able to select job options from Quark in a way similar to choosing a printer? Or any other way besides going back to Distiller each time? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 1:20:56-GMT,2540;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17699 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:20:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27657; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:59:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:53:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27311; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:53:23 -0500 Received: from pilot13.cl.msu.edu (pilot13.cl.msu.edu [35.9.5.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27307 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:53:22 -0500 Received: from [35.8.123.229] ([35.8.123.229]) by pilot13.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e8C0rK550208 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:53:20 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <39BD78D8.C5A84634@jaramstudios.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:53:21 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Sa Leitao Subject: Re: [PDF] job options Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ you can create different watched folders for each printer setup and assign them the desired distiller job option. Then, all you have to do is save the PS file to the correct folder. Distiller will know what kind of PDF (screen, press-optmized, etc.) to make from PS files dropped in that folder, based on the job option assigned to it. >Presently, we have to go to Distiller each time we make a PDF from our >Quark pages to make sure the correct job options are selected. My >question: Is there any third-party extension or any other way of being >able to select job options from Quark in a way similar to choosing a >printer? Or any other way besides going back to Distiller each time? Max Sa Leitao Assistant Production Manager The State News, MSU saleitao@msu.edu Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 13:24:05-GMT,3420;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01156 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:24:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31971; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:07:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:59:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31225; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:59:20 -0500 Received: from smtpnew.quark.com (root@smtpnew.quark.com [206.195.78.16]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31221 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:59:18 -0500 Received: from denver.quark.com (denver.quark.com [206.195.71.192]) by smtpnew.quark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12192 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:11:32 -0600 Received: by denver.quark.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:58:47 -0600 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C087349E9@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] job options Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 06:58:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Our PDF Filter will allow you to override Distiller Job Options while exporting as PDF. You can find the most recent update on our website at http://www.quark.com/files/files.jsp?searchby=keyword&keywords=pdf+filter+1. 51&search=+Find+%3E%3E+. Regards, Todd Reid QA Engineer Quark, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: jhf [mailto:jhf@jaramstudios.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 6:29 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] job options The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We are currently using Quark XPress on Macs to make PDFs to send finished newspaper pages to printers all over the country. Each printer has a different job setting for Distiller. In addition to all of these options, we also need to use the screen optimized setting to send proofs of ads and pages back to the publishers to be viewed on their screens. Presently, we have to go to Distiller each time we make a PDF from our Quark pages to make sure the correct job options are selected. My question: Is there any third-party extension or any other way of being able to select job options from Quark in a way similar to choosing a printer? Or any other way besides going back to Distiller each time? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. 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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:02:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Duff Johnson [mailto:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:01 PM __________________________________________________________________ >From: C. Scott Miller [mailto:miller@performancegraphics.com] >on 9/8/00 12:11 PM, Ioco, Michael S at michael.ioco@eds.com wrote: > >> The site is done in html, >> but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to >> search them. > >You might consider converting your HTML pages to PDF using Web Capture {on >Acrobat 4.x) so that you have a single interface for all. The additional >benefit is that you don't have to worry about installed browser issues. >Acrobat Catalog indexes and Reader+Search work very well on a CD. > >That is a REALLY, REALLY good idea! My only problem is that I'm using >frames to hold the PDF document in. The HTML pages hold the navigation to >move quickly from one PDF to another other -- my whole purpose in using >HTML. > >Hmmmmm........ getting warmer......... Why not use Bookmarks on the PDFs instead? You can link to other documents, or back to navigation menus directly from the PDFs.... Duff Johnson ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- That is actually the whole purpose of the HTML interface -- to get away from the unfriendly Bookmarks. The user needs to be able to jump between various sections of documents quickly, and bookmarks don't allow that. In Acrobat, every time that a new document opens, the bookmarks change too. And the bookmarks are too hard to manage to have a complete table of contents on each and every sheet. What I really need is frame functionality. (This might be available in Acrobat, I don't know... I'm the HTML guy, not the PDF guy. Currently, each PDF document has a single bookmark that goes back to the table of contents, so I'm assuming that the best practice is currently being exercised.) BTW, are attachments allowed in this mailing list? It might be easier to explain some things with a snapshot. Thanks, Michael Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 13:42:22-GMT,3907;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01564 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:42:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02279; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:36:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:29:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01792; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:29:26 -0500 Received: from radmail.rad.co.il (radmail.rad.co.il [207.232.32.10]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01788 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:29:23 -0500 Received: from taly-r.rad.co.il ([192.114.26.219]) by radmail.rad.co.il (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54115U1200L1200S0V35) with SMTP id il for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 16:31:15 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <39BE2E92.000001.47063@taly-r.rad.co.il> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:24:35 +0200 (Israel Standard Time) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_ZWZRQL80000000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail 1.0 From: "Taly" To: Subject: [PDF] using "find" X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ --------------Boundary-00=_ZWZRQL80000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_ZWZRLVC0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_ZWZRLVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I tried to use "find " and it works for some of my document, and sometime= s not. anyone have any idea? thanks Taly --------------Boundary-00=_ZWZRLVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/related; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_ZWZRG6G0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_ZWZRG6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Is that tool able to select your text? It may be that what you see as text is in fact outlined text i.e. it has been converted to line-art. OTOH it might be something else. Kind regards, Andy Den Tandt ============================================ Andy Den Tandt Software Development Engineer Enfocus Software Kleindokkaai 3-5 B-9000 Gent Belgium Voice: +32 9 269 16 90 Fax : +32 9 269 16 91 Email: andydt@enfocus.be web : www.enfocus.com ============================================ Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 14:50:25-GMT,6525;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02386 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:50:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05642; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:25:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:18:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05195; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:18:09 -0500 Received: from radmail.rad.co.il (radmail.rad.co.il [207.232.32.10]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05180 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:18:02 -0500 Received: from taly-r.rad.co.il ([192.114.26.219]) by radmail.rad.co.il (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-54115U1200L1200S0V35) with SMTP id il; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:20:22 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <39BE3A16.000005.47063@taly-r.rad.co.il> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 16:13:42 +0200 (Israel Standard Time) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_U62S6RO0000000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail 1.0 From: "Taly" To: Cc: Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] using "find" X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ --------------Boundary-00=_U62S6RO0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_U62S12S0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_U62S12S0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am using the English version. -------Original Message------- From: David Friedland=20 To: taly_r@rad.co.il Subject: RE: [PDF] using "find" Are you trying this in Hebrew or in English? In Hebrew the find function will work reliably only with unicode fonts visit us and subscribe to our eNews mailing list at: http://www.karatsoft.co.il For more info, Please contact me, David Friedland=20 ************************************************************************* KaratSoft Dept. Pre-Sale and Project Mgr. 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References: <200009121259.HAA31244@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:44:45 -0400 > From: "Ioco, Michael S" > Subject: RE: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > - -----Original Message----- > From: C. Scott Miller [mailto:miller@performancegraphics.com] > on 9/8/00 12:11 PM, Ioco, Michael S at michael.ioco@eds.com wrote: > > > The site is done in html, > > but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to > > search them. > > You might consider converting your HTML pages to PDF using Web Capture {on > Acrobat 4.x) so that you have a single interface for all. The additional > benefit is that you don't have to worry about installed browser issues. > Acrobat Catalog indexes and Reader+Search work very well on a CD. > > - -- > > That is a REALLY, REALLY good idea! My only problem is that I'm using > frames to hold the PDF document in. The HTML pages hold the navigation to > move quickly from one PDF to another other -- my whole purpose in using > HTML. > > Hmmmmm........ getting warmer......... Would you consider converting the PDF files to HTML? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 15:42:05-GMT,3761;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01706 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10817; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:36:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:32:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10466; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:32:13 -0500 Received: from cas02.cas-inc.com (cas02.cas-inc.com [208.140.76.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10462 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:32:12 -0500 Received: by CAS02 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:33:22 -0500 Message-ID: <2DD6F1865775D4119A10009027B108F92B4E92@CAS02> From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:33:21 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Another alternative that is usually overlooked is to set up an ftp server and use ftpnetdrive from http://www.knoware.com/ . This product maps a ftp site as a drive which is required for the Adobe indexes to work. Each of your users will have to have the program installed. The only downside is it costs $30.00 but the demo program is functional and does not time out. Reasons for using an ftp server: 1. Easy to set up and maintain (even your personal pc can be set up as an ftp site) 2. Adobe Reader with seach works just like it does with CD's and hard drives 3. Browsers are not required and less over head is required on a pc. Maybe one day Adobe will grasp this concept and allowing indexing to work with ftp sites and not require hard drive mapping. -----Original Message----- From: Ioco, Michael S [mailto:michael.ioco@eds.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 1:45 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: C. Scott Miller [mailto:miller@performancegraphics.com] on 9/8/00 12:11 PM, Ioco, Michael S at michael.ioco@eds.com wrote: > The site is done in html, > but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to > search them. You might consider converting your HTML pages to PDF using Web Capture {on Acrobat 4.x) so that you have a single interface for all. The additional benefit is that you don't have to worry about installed browser issues. Acrobat Catalog indexes and Reader+Search work very well on a CD. -- That is a REALLY, REALLY good idea! My only problem is that I'm using frames to hold the PDF document in. The HTML pages hold the navigation to move quickly from one PDF to another other -- my whole purpose in using HTML. Hmmmmm........ getting warmer......... 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 10:33 AM -0500 9/12/00, Saccuzzo, Robin wrote: >Another alternative that is usually overlooked is to set up an ftp server >and use ftpnetdrive from http://www.knoware.com/ . This product maps a ftp >site as a drive which is required for the Adobe indexes to work. Each of >your users will have to have the program installed. The only downside is it >costs $30.00 but the demo program is functional and does not time out. You also forgot the fact ftpnetdrive is only available for Windows - which doesn't help all the Mac, Linux, Solaris, etc. users out there. (oh, and let's not forget the technical aspects that FTP is NOT designed for random access, and using it as such has HUGE overheads!) If you want to go this route, use a standard file server and mount it using standard file sharing protocols like CIFS/SMB, AFS, NFS, etc. Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 16:08:47-GMT,4342;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02586 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:08:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12158; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:52:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:48:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11817; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:48:27 -0500 Received: from mail (mail.document-solutions.com [216.103.111.12]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11813 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:48:26 -0500 Received: from OAKLAND-Message_Server by mail with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:48:12 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:47:29 -0700 From: "Duff Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Using search in a browser, on a CD... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA11814 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >> The site is done in html, >> but the main content of the site is PDF files and I need to be able to >> search them. > >You might consider converting your HTML pages to PDF using Web Capture {on >Acrobat 4.x) so that you have a single interface for all. The additional >benefit is that you don't have to worry about installed browser issues. >Acrobat Catalog indexes and Reader+Search work very well on a CD. > >That is a REALLY, REALLY good idea! My only problem is that I'm using >frames to hold the PDF document in. The HTML p>ages hold the navigation to >>move quickly from one PDF to another other -- my whole purpose in using >>HTML. >> >>Hmmmmm........ getting warmer......... > >Why not use Bookmarks on the PDFs instead? You can link to other documents, >or back to navigation menus directly from the PDFs.... > >Duff Johnson >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >That is actually the whole purpose of the HTML interface -- to get away from >the unfriendly Bookmarks. > >The user needs to be able to jump between various sections of documents >quickly, and bookmarks don't allow that. In Acrobat, every time that a new >document opens, the bookmarks change too. And the bookmarks are too hard to >manage to have a complete table of contents on each and every sheet. What I >really need is frame functionality. This functionality can be achieved with bookmarks, but it takes a bit of doing. It is, IMHO, a much better way to go than HTML for this purpose, because it bypasses the whole browser/plugin issue. >(This might be available in Acrobat, I don't know... I'm the HTML guy, not >the PDF guy. Currently, each PDF document has a single bookmark that goes >back to the table of contents, so I'm assuming that the best practice is >currently being exercised.) I would call that the "bare-minimal best practice". Each PDF could include bookmarks to evry other PDF, and include Table of Contents bookmarks for itself. Or (in a fancier version) each PDF could include complete bookmarks for every other PDF file on the CD-ROM. It's one of those things... once you've planned it and done it once, it's easy. >BTW, are attachments allowed in this mailing list? It might be easier to >explain some things with a snapshot. Attachments are not allowed. You can send attachments to individuals, but to send them to the list is not a good practice. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 16:19:36-GMT,3047;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02863 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:19:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13878; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:10:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:06:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13516; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:06:55 -0500 Received: from mario.zyan.com (mario.zyan.com [209.250.96.140]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13511 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:06:54 -0500 Received: from [208.41.130.163] ([208.41.130.163]) by mario.zyan.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01137 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from miller@performancegraphics.com) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:06:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] using "find" From: "C. Scott Miller" To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ on 9/12/00 7:38 AM, Andy Den Tandt at andydt@enfocus.be wrote: > And what about the text selection tool? Is that tool able to select your > text? > It may be that what you see as text is in fact outlined text i.e. it has > been converted to line-art. OTOH it might be something else. Problems with "Find" and (if you are indexing your files "Search") are generally related to font conversions during the Distilling process. Check File/Document Info/Fonts for your successful and unsuccessful PDFs and see if you see a pattern concerning which type of fonts are in use when you have the problem. You may have to change font conversion options in your Distiller Job Option settings or, in Windows, in your Printer settings. If you need additional help, please specify which version of Acrobat, Printer driver, and Operating System you are using to create your PDFs. The dialog boxes are different for different versions. -- C. 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From: "C. Scott Miller" To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4E6A7BDC24CDD311B11400508BDF0A3801A4AC00@usahm009.exmi01.exch.eds.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ on 9/12/00 6:02 AM, Ioco, Michael S at michael.ioco@eds.com wrote: > The user needs to be able to jump between various sections of documents > quickly, and bookmarks don't allow that. In Acrobat, every time that a new > document opens, the bookmarks change too. And the bookmarks are too hard to > manage to have a complete table of contents on each and every sheet. What I > really need is frame functionality. > > (This might be available in Acrobat, I don't know... I'm the HTML guy, not > the PDF guy. Currently, each PDF document has a single bookmark that goes > back to the table of contents, so I'm assuming that the best practice is > currently being exercised.) I use the HTML/PDF frame solution on my web site and understand what you are saying. And you are right that PDFs open with their own set of Bookmarks. However, you should know that bookmarks are "programmable" with the same Actions as links and they are transferable between PDFs (they import with inserted pages between PDFs). To program them you simply create a bookmark and change its properties - for instance, specify actions "Open View" or "Open File". Hope this helps, -- C. Scott Miller Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com PDF Research Companion A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 20:41:06-GMT,2644;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10583 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:41:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA30556; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:28:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:23:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30277; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:23:35 -0500 Received: from tio.tiocom (mail3.tio.com [207.211.39.56]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA30273 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:23:33 -0500 Received: from aia-inc.com (unverified [209.233.135.236]) by tio.tiocom (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:29:09 -0700 Received: from aiawdoc8g8f9iv [10.101.11.2] by aia-inc.com [10.101.11.254] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP1.R) for ; Tue, 12 Sep 100 13:25:29 +0100 Message-ID: <02af01c01cf6$b08fcac0$020b650a@aiawdoc8g8f9iv> From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: References: <20000911221111.NVZM6605.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Stamp a image of a Signature - How? Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:19:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Ok.. is this some kind of joke.. on me? I go thru the Acro 4.0 "Guide" under help, and do a search on Stamp Tool. There's a bunch of documentation on this tool that has an icon like a pre-inked stamp. Great - sounds like just what I need. So where the heck is it? :-) Win2k / Acrobat 4.0 TIA, Steve > > What type of environment? Will the Stamp tool in Acrobat > 4 do? > > George Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Sep-2000 20:56:03-GMT,2471;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11046 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:56:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32031; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:46:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:42:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31731; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:42:22 -0500 Received: from pdgsi.com (sugind.tusco.net [209.57.212.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA31718 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:42:12 -0500 Received: from 1240 [209.57.212.6] by pdgsi.com [209.57.225.236] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.T) for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 16:38:13 -0400 From: "Dave Miller" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Stamp a image of a Signature - How? Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 16:48:02 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <02af01c01cf6$b08fcac0$020b650a@aiawdoc8g8f9iv> Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Click and hold on the Notes tool icon on the toolbar. This will popup additional icons "hidden" underneath. >Ok.. is this some kind of joke.. on me? I go thru the Acro 4.0 "Guide" >under help, and do a search on Stamp Tool. There's a bunch of documentation >on this tool that has an icon like a pre-inked stamp. Great - sounds like >just what I need. >So where the heck is it? :-) >Win2k / Acrobat 4.0 TIA, >Steve Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 1:45:33-GMT,2696;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17645 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:45:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14429; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:32:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:25:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14048; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:25:56 -0500 Received: from tio.tiocom (mail3.tio.com [207.211.39.56]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14042 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:25:55 -0500 Received: from aia-inc.com (unverified [209.233.135.236]) by tio.tiocom (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:31:31 -0700 Received: from aiawdoc8g8f9iv [10.101.11.2] by aia-inc.com [10.101.11.254] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP1.R) for ; Tue, 12 Sep 100 18:27:46 +0100 Message-ID: <047b01c01d20$ea6943a0$020b650a@aiawdoc8g8f9iv> From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Stamp a image of a Signature - How? Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:21:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dave, Thank you! I guess Im just to conditioned to cluttered up toolbar buttons... Im a Word user :-) Though I would prefer to at least "fill up" the Acrobat tools bars as I see fit. Thanks again, Stephen M. Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. "Specialized insurance for Technology Risks" steve.aylor@aia-inc.com 949.581.2333 voice 949.581.2814 fax > Click and hold on the Notes tool icon on the toolbar. This will popup > additional icons "hidden" underneath. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 12:19:51-GMT,4245;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29194 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:19:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14102; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:11:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:05:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13740; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:05:35 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13724 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:05:26 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19966; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:05:21 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <02a301c01c35$006e0ab0$020b650a@aiawdoc8g8f9iv> References: <02a301c01c35$006e0ab0$020b650a@aiawdoc8g8f9iv> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:50:45 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Stamp a image of a Signature - How? Cc: "Stephen M. Aylor" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Stephen, assuming that you have the tools and permissions to apply the needed objects to the form (either as a creator or as a user), you have several possibilities. The simplest solution is most likely the Stamp tool where you can import your own image as "stamp". I have not had the need to do this, so, I am not quite sure what you would need, a PDF or another file format. The other possibility (more suited for the form creator) is to use a Button form field (icon only, no action, read-only, no background, no border) into which you can import your image as an icon. In this case, you would need a PDF version. However, keep in mind that with this kind of "signature", there might be some legal problems, that this signature might not be accepted as a signature. In order to have a legally binding signature, you might have to digitally sign your document. There are possibilities to have your scanned signature as a stamp/icon within the signature field. There are now additional possibilities coming up. I have close contact to a new development which is used for both, manually and digitally signing at the same time. This product is actually using a pressure sensitive pad to record your own (intentionally applied to the document) signature. It also creates a four-dimensional image of your signature and uses it as the key for your digital signature. The procedure is so that you would print out your document, put it on the pressure sensitive pad and sign it with your normal pen. So, you have the manually signed paper document, and the simultaneously digitally signed file. You have an option to place a two-dimensional image of the recorded signature on the file. But, the legally binding signature would be electronic. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >Im looking for a tool/plug-in/method/code cut ... anything... that will >allow me to "stamp" a scanned image of my handwritten signature on a >signature line of an existing pdf /pdf form. > >ie... sign an insurance application. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 13:01:16-GMT,2510;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29933 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:01:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16732; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:51:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:47:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16403; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:47:47 -0500 Received: from chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16399 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:47:46 -0500 Received: from fpal (fpal.easynet.co.uk [212.212.218.168]) by chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B678F83B0 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:47:44 +0100 (BST) From: "Jacqueline" To: Subject: [PDF] Embedded AVI/Quicktime video Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:48:01 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Could anyone please advise on the current AVI/Quicktime questions: 1. Is there a way in which these can be embedded or am I correct in thinking that these files must be included with the PDF document instead? 2. Is there any practicality in running an AVI or Quicktime video within PDF via a browser? Perhaps I've been left behind somewhat, but I would have imagined this to be totally impractical in terms of speed. Many thanks in advance for any quick confirmation or otherwise. 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Pdfzone. Com" Subject: [PDF] Hiding Radio Buttons Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:51:44 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C01D70.9B5FE6B0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C01D70.9B5FE6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Is it possible to hide just 1 button in a group of Radio Buttons with the same name? I know how to hide fields with >a.hidden=true;< but I am not sure how to identify a certain button in a group. TIA, Dave Miller. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C01D70.9B5FE6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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(207.110.36.212) by smtp.connectnet.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2000 14:55:46 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:56:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] job options From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ You can use EZ-PDF to do exactly what you want. EZ-PDF creates "Printers" that create different types of PDF files when you print to them from any application. Simply choose the EZ-PDF printer in the print dialog and print. That's it. 30 day demo versions for both Mac and Windows available for download from our web site. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ---------- >From: jhf >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] job options >Date: Mon, Sep 11, 2000, 5:29 PM > > We are currently using Quark XPress on Macs to make PDFs to send > finished newspaper pages to printers all over the country. Each printer > has a different job setting for Distiller. In addition to all of these > options, we also need to use the screen optimized setting to send proofs > of ads and pages back to the publishers to be viewed on their screens. > Presently, we have to go to Distiller each time we make a PDF from our > Quark pages to make sure the correct job options are selected. My > question: Is there any third-party extension or any other way of being > able to select job options from Quark in a way similar to choosing a > printer? Or any other way besides going back to Distiller each time? Any > input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 15:28:03-GMT,2532;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03604 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:28:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28535; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:20:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:16:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28149; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:16:33 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28142 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:16:32 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09192; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:16:29 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:10:15 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Hiding Radio Buttons Cc: "Dave Miller" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dave, not that I know of. However, you could use "cover" fields being placed above the radio buttons to achieve this. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ > >Is it possible to hide just 1 button in a group of Radio Buttons >with the same name? I know how to hide fields with >a.hidden=true;< >but I am not sure how to identify a certain button in a group. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 15:49:17-GMT,2343;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04217 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:49:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30153; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:41:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:37:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29830; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:37:15 -0500 Received: from pr-scp.com (ns1.pr-scp.com [208.163.171.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29819 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:37:09 -0500 Received: from icarus.homeland.prww.com ([10.10.10.12]) by ns1.pr-scp.com with ESMTP id <115215>; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:39:28 -0400 Received: by icarus.homeland.prww.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:36:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Craft, Stephen" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Unchangeable Digital Signature? Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:36:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have some .pdf docs, some scanned in hardcopies (not OCR) and some that were originally MS Word. I would like to stamp them with some kind of permanent checksum or something that would let me know that the document is authentic and unchanged. I guess something like the digital watermark features available in some graphic apps (Photoshop?). Thanks. Steve Craft Business Application Development Premier Research - SCP Communications, Inc. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 16:22:44-GMT,2887;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05277 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:22:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32504; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:10:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:06:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32147; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:06:10 -0500 Received: from woozle.isode.com (woozle.isode.com [193.133.227.19]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32143 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:06:08 -0500 Received: from bagheera.isode.com by woozle.isode.com (local) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:06:04 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:06:03 +0100 From: Chris Ridd To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Unchangeable Digital Signature? Message-ID: <23270000.968861163@bagheera.isode.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.5a5 (Linux/x86 Demo) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ "Craft, Stephen" wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I have some .pdf docs, some scanned in hardcopies (not OCR) and some that > were originally MS Word. I would like to stamp them with some kind of > permanent checksum or something that would let me know that the document > is authentic and unchanged. I guess something like the digital watermark > features available in some graphic apps (Photoshop?). Thanks. > > > > Steve Craft > Business Application Development > Premier Research - SCP Communications, Inc. You want Acrobat 4's digital signature tool in that case. :-) If you're using the Mac version, you either need to upgrade 4.0 to 4.05 to get the necessary bits, or download the plugins yourself. I'd recommend getting the 4.05 upgrade though, as it fixes lots of known problems. The 4.0 to 4.05 upgrade's a free CD from Adobe. Cheers, Chris Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 16:36:33-GMT,2696;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05665 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:36:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01115; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:27:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:23:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00784; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:23:03 -0500 Received: from 38.164.135.2 ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA00768 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:22:53 -0500 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by 38.164.135.2 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 76149 via TCP with SMTP; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:22:19 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:24:04 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Unchangeable Digital Signature? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 11:36 AM -0400 9/13/00, Craft, Stephen wrote: >I have some .pdf docs, some scanned in hardcopies (not OCR) and some that >were originally MS Word. I would like to stamp them with some kind of >permanent checksum or something that would let me know that the document is >authentic and unchanged. I guess something like the digital watermark >features available in some graphic apps (Photoshop?). Thanks. > What's wrong with the Digital Signature feature of Acrobat 4? Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 16:39:07-GMT,2155;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05714 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:39:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01531; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:31:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:27:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01082; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:27:07 -0500 Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01078 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:27:06 -0500 Received: from 146-115-65-8.c5-0.bkl-ubr2.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com ([146.115.65.8] helo=danari.Dionis.com) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #2) id 13ZFNG-0003Fm-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:27:02 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000913122622.00e98be0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:27:29 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] using "find" In-Reply-To: <200009131446.JAA24737@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I seem to remember that type 3 fonts cause searchability problems in some cases. This may have been fixed and I did not hear, but I think it still exists as an issue. Regards, Dan-Ari Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 17:11:34-GMT,3731;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06760 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:11:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04069; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:02:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:58:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03641; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:57:59 -0500 Received: from mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (mail1.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.40]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03633 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:57:58 -0500 Received: from [24.112.218.247] by mail1.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000913165752.BDGQ28170.mail1.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:57:52 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:56:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Embedded AVI/Quicktime video From: Jason Belec To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Could anyone please advise on the current AVI/Quicktime questions: > > 1. Is there a way in which these can be embedded or am I correct in thinking > that these files must be included with the PDF document instead? They are referenced not included - they must be Quicktime to be universal, and they must be on a server or sent with the PDF. They also must be in the same folder as the PDF. > > 2. Is there any practicality in running an AVI or Quicktime video within PDF > via a browser? Perhaps I've been left behind somewhat, but I would have > imagined this to be totally impractical in terms of speed. Sure. Really great looking stuff. If you use Sorenson Codec for compression they can be made very small. Also Flash movies/animations can be included, and they also can be very small. The industry standard is 56K modem, however it will depend on you user base and the PDF content to determine what's right. -- Jason Belec :)~ pdfworkflows@home.com Digital Workflows Specialist, (613) 824-2243 EST especially PDF "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training PDF Course Instructor 3D Course Instructor Document Computing Institute 3CD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Articles of interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web site of interest: http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 18:26:29-GMT,3550;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09228 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08806; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:08:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:03:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08447; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:03:23 -0500 Received: from ahmler2.mail.eds.com (ahmler2.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.76]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08443 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:03:21 -0500 Received: from ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (ahmlir1-2.mail.eds.com [192.85.154.25]) by ahmler2.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8DI3Kc00983 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8DI3Fk24889 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:03:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com (usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com [207.37.138.190]) by ahmlir1.mail.eds.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8DI3ET24872 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by usahm102.exmi01.exch.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:03:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4E6A7BDC24CDD311B11400508BDF0A3801A4AC03@usahm009.exmi01.exch.eds.com> From: "Ioco, Michael S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Using search in a browser, on a CD... Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:03:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Rachel Burnsed [mailto:burnsed@bcl-computers.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:30 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Using search in a browser, on a CD... > You might consider converting your HTML pages to PDF using Web Capture {on > Acrobat 4.x) so that you have a single interface for all. The additional > benefit is that you don't have to worry about installed browser issues. > Acrobat Catalog indexes and Reader+Search work very well on a CD. > > - -- > > That is a REALLY, REALLY good idea! My only problem is that I'm using > frames to hold the PDF document in. The HTML pages hold the navigation to > move quickly from one PDF to another other -- my whole purpose in using > HTML. > > Hmmmmm........ getting warmer......... Would you consider converting the PDF files to HTML? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- We ruled this option out, simply because the HTML is really hard to keep consistent, and it's much easier to create a clean PDF than clean HTML. Thanks, Rachel. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 18:30:11-GMT,3976;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09330 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:30:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10147; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:22:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:18:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09753; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:18:35 -0500 Received: from mail.ripnet.com (mail.RipNET.com [206.47.98.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09749 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:18:33 -0500 Received: from psymon.psymon.com (A2-P185.RipNET.com [206.47.206.186]) by mail.ripnet.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e8DIIVW24871 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:18:31 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.1.20000913141642.01c98eb0@pop.recorder.ca> X-Sender: psymon@pop.recorder.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:19:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ron Koster Subject: [PDF] Speaking of PDF searches... In-Reply-To: <4E6A7BDC24CDD311B11400508BDF0A3801A4AC03@usahm009.exmi01.e xch.eds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ From the latest Cyberlaw Informer newsletter (#57)... >########################### >3. Research Tip: Searching PDF >########################### > >The regular Internet search engines (such as AltaVista, Google and >HotBot) index HTML and text files, and ignore files in other formats >such as the Portable Document Format (PDF) format. > >Adobe's PDF is the de facto standard for electronic document >distribution. PDF preserves all of the fonts, formatting, colors, and >graphics of any source document, regardless of the application and >platform used to create it. Anyone can view, print and navigate PDF >files exactly as intended by the author using the free Adobe Acrobat >Reader. > >PDF's cross-platform and easy formatting make it ideal for distributing >and sharing papers and reports, and has become extremely popular as way >of distributing academic papers. > >However, since the major search engines do not index the PDF files, the >content on these files is not accessible through regular searches, and >one could only reach it using a link from a regular indexed HTML file, >or by knowing the exact URL. > >Now Adobe new PDF Search Engine makes these files accessible to online >researchers. > >The PDF search engine includes summaries from more than a million PDF >documents >available online. Clicking the links on the search results page doesn't >automatically load >documents (which are many times very large). Instead, the researcher >will be shown the summary, and have the option to download the full PDF >document or view it online. > >A short testing of the PDF search engine brought up 5,988 documents for >the search phrase "intellectual property", 71,638 for "international >law", and 30,013 results for "human rights". > >A glance at the top results showed highly relevant results. > > The PDF Search Engine is located at: >http://searchpdf.adobe.com/ Read not the Times. Read the Eternities. -- Henry David Thoreau Ye imaginarie olde Eternitie, now available at Psymon: http://www.psymon.com/art/imaginarie.html Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 19:41:38-GMT,2855;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11472 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:41:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14856; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:31:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:26:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14539; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:26:54 -0500 Received: from 38.164.135.2 ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14531 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:26:51 -0500 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by 38.164.135.2 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 77639 via TCP with SMTP; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:27:39 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.1.20000913141642.01c98eb0@pop.recorder.ca> References: <5.0.0.25.1.20000913141642.01c98eb0@pop.recorder.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:23:51 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Speaking of PDF searches... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 2:19 PM -0400 9/13/00, Ron Koster wrote: >From the latest Cyberlaw Informer newsletter (#57)... Somebody needs to be buy these folks a clue... >>########################### >>3. Research Tip: Searching PDF >>########################### >> >>The regular Internet search engines (such as AltaVista, Google and >>HotBot) index HTML and text files, and ignore files in other formats >>such as the Portable Document Format (PDF) format. That's COMPLETELY false! Altavista, for example, FULLY supports searching PDF documents. Adobe, for example, uses it for providing searching of their internal Intranet - including the MANY PDF documents included therein. Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 20:21:46-GMT,3162;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12744 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:21:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18785; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:21:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:11:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17531; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:11:37 -0500 From: "David van Driessche" To: , , , "'Acrobat Talk'" , Subject: [PDFdev] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Free Software from Enfocus Software Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:11:48 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c01dbe$d94344b0$9111e0d5@dellxpsr450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.1.20000913141642.01c98eb0@pop.recorder.ca> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ Dear list-readers, I have a habit of not promoting our software directly on this list - in this case however I have to break my own rule. Enfocus Software is giving away 1000 copies of both new products we announced at Seybold: WebPerfect PDF and PowerUp PDF. If you want to know more: go to the following links on our web site: http://www.enfocus.com/webperfectpower http://www.enfocus.com/powermeup These links will allow the first 1000 visitors who download these products to receive a free Registration Key... I thought this was an opportunity I had to share with you. Don't rush over there just yet - the action starts on September 14 at 9.00 am PST (which is the San Francisco time zone)... I thought this was too good not to share with you. David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com Director of Software Development ---------------------------------- Out of memory. We wish to hold the whole sky, But we never will. -------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer - Come and see AcroForms Advisor Kas Thomas' advice on better formatting scripts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 20:32:30-GMT,3471;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13075 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:32:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18084; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:15:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:11:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17530; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:11:37 -0500 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17517 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:11:34 -0500 Received: (qmail 28995 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2000 20:11:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dellxpsr450) ([213.224.17.145]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Sep 2000 20:11:33 -0000 From: "David van Driessche" To: , , , "'Acrobat Talk'" , Subject: [PDF] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Free Software from Enfocus Software Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:11:48 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c01dbe$d94344b0$9111e0d5@dellxpsr450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.1.20000913141642.01c98eb0@pop.recorder.ca> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dear list-readers, I have a habit of not promoting our software directly on this list - in this case however I have to break my own rule. Enfocus Software is giving away 1000 copies of both new products we announced at Seybold: WebPerfect PDF and PowerUp PDF. If you want to know more: go to the following links on our web site: http://www.enfocus.com/webperfectpower http://www.enfocus.com/powermeup These links will allow the first 1000 visitors who download these products to receive a free Registration Key... I thought this was an opportunity I had to share with you. Don't rush over there just yet - the action starts on September 14 at 9.00 am PST (which is the San Francisco time zone)... I thought this was too good not to share with you. David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com Director of Software Development ---------------------------------- Out of memory. We wish to hold the whole sky, But we never will. -------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 20:45:06-GMT,2439;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13379 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:45:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20067; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:36:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:31:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19650; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:31:22 -0500 Received: from axion.net (popper3.vphos.net [207.102.129.200]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19646 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:31:20 -0500 Received: from [207.102.191.68] ([207.102.191.68]) by popper3.vphos.net ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:31:15 -0700 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:31:59 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: Re: [PDF] Speaking of PDF searches... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Continuing the comments on the lack of indexing by the search engines. If Altavista does index pdf documents, what do you have to do to get them to see the files?. Do you have to give up security to get them to index the files? I have been trying to find some search engine that indexes files for over two years? (including Altavista) Intranet is a different creature from the Internet. If there is a secret for getting pdf files indexed perhaps you could share it with the list Leonard. Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Sep-2000 21:27:47-GMT,2633;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14699 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:27:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22516; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:12:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:08:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22182; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:08:45 -0500 Received: from 38.164.135.2 ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA22173 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:08:37 -0500 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by 38.164.135.2 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 78109 via TCP with SMTP; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:09:19 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:10:53 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Speaking of PDF searches... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 1:31 PM -0800 9/13/00, Angus Weller wrote: >Continuing the comments on the lack of indexing by the search engines. If >Altavista does index pdf documents, what do you have to do to get them to >see the files?. I don't know how Altavista (or any of the other search engines) are setup to find/locate what files they choose to search/index. But I DO know that their underlying technologies (ie. the search/indexing "guts") that they are built on, DO support PDF. Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 13:02:21-GMT,2168;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03470 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:02:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08141; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:54:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:48:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07726; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:48:16 -0500 Received: from pdgsi.com (sugind.tusco.net [209.57.212.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07721 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:48:10 -0500 Received: from 1240 [209.57.212.6] by pdgsi.com [209.57.225.236] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.T) for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:44:53 -0400 From: "Dave Miller" To: "Pdf@Lists. Pdfzone. Com" Subject: [PDF] Formatting a String Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:54:47 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ What would be a good way to format this value (36 x 80) from a Combo Box field and split it into two values width and height, Width = 36, Height = 80? Thanks, Dave Miller. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 13:34:08-GMT,2886;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04028 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:34:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10281; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:25:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:21:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10068; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:21:23 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10064 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:21:22 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14225; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:21:16 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:18:38 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Formatting a String Cc: "Dave Miller" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dave, probably the best for your application would be using JavaScript with string manipulations. The first step would be getting the JavaScript Client Side Reference and Guide from Netscape's developer area. There you look up the syntax for the String object. You would use the substring(), charAt() and indexOf() methods. You would analyze your string, for example by looking at the position of spaces or so, and take the according substrings. Then you might have to put it together again. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >What would be a good way to format this value (36 x 80) from a Combo Box >field and split it into two values width and height, Width = 36, Height = >80? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 14:22:21-GMT,3186;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05096 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:22:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13954; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:13:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:09:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13580; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:09:11 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13576 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:09:08 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27770; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:09:05 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:03:54 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Unchangeable Digital Signature? Cc: "Craft, Stephen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Steve, applying a digital signature (self-sign is sufficient) should do it. Because with that, you "lock" the document, so that all further saving will be a "Save" command, leaving the object structure of the version current at signature time unchanged. You then have an indicator of any modification after you applied the signature, and you will also have a possibility to identify the modifications and to reverse them. If you want to do some protection before creating the PDF, there are checksum programs around which you can apply to your files. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >I have some .pdf docs, some scanned in hardcopies (not OCR) and some that >were originally MS Word. I would like to stamp them with some kind of >permanent checksum or something that would let me know that the document is >authentic and unchanged. I guess something like the digital watermark >features available in some graphic apps (Photoshop?). Thanks. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 15:39:51-GMT,3673;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07204 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:39:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19215; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:24:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:14:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18132; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:14:50 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-oe27.hotmail.com [216.32.180.20]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18128 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:14:49 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:14:38 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.73.194.86] From: "Don Steinberg" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF Normal Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:14:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C01E3C.FA343390" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2000 15:14:38.0407 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FAB5D70:01C01E5E] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C01E3C.FA343390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, =20 Is it possible to edit the text or text attributes of a PDF Normal file, = either produced electronically or through Capture? I know you can go in = and edit the text, but if you add too much, it extends the line and does = not wrap. If the original was of poor quality, much editing may be = necessary. Are there any utilities to do this well? =20 Thank you in advance. Don Steinberg donsteinberg@hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C01E3C.FA343390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Is it possible to edit the text = or text=20 attributes of a PDF Normal file, either produced electronically or = through=20 Capture? I know you can go in and edit the text, but if you add too = much, it=20 extends the line and does not wrap. If the original was of poor quality, = much=20 editing may be necessary. Are there any utilities to do this=20 well?
 
Thank you in advance.
Don Steinberg
 
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Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ There's the "rub". The underlying technology can do lots of things-like byteserve pages on servers but it rearely happens. If Adobe Reps are lurking the list perhaps they can go back to the office and suggest that a campaign should be aimed at the Indexes, search engines and IP's explaining how to implement the underlying technology. I have been concerned about the Acrobat Reader Plugin not being set up as default application like Flash and most other plugins in the two leading browsers. The amount of time I have to spend setting up other computers to use pdf files in the browser is disheartening. I think pdf is an amazing technology but many technologies have failed because of lack of public support. (Note: I my site is aimed at students, travellers and armchair geographers not at the print industry or government offices. More work has to be done to increase the profile of pdf. Apple didn't advertise their product well enough and they nearly failed look what advertisindg is doing for them. Will the same eventually happen with pdf files on the net. Several times, I've written to list about my disappointment with recent upgrades made by Adobe and the increased digital weight of the files.) The underlying technology is not any good if it isn't applied. Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 15:54:09-GMT,2682;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07585 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:54:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21347; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:40:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:36:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20919; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:36:10 -0500 Received: from asteroid.bcl-computers.com (mail.bclcomputers.com [216.216.8.132]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20915 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:36:08 -0500 Received: from bcl-computers.com (ATHM-216-216-xxx-140.home.net [216.216.8.140]) by asteroid.bcl-computers.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id RSRKBDZX; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:46:25 -0700 Message-ID: <39C0F183.45BE9C51@bcl-computers.com> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:40:51 -0700 From: Rachel Burnsed X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-14-2000 [V2 #887] References: <200009141514.KAA18151@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:03:10 -0400 > From: "Ioco, Michael S" > Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Using search in a browser, on a CD... > Would you consider converting the PDF files to HTML? > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > We ruled this option out, simply because the HTML is really hard to keep > consistent, and it's much easier to create a clean PDF than clean HTML. > Thanks, Rachel. Before you rule this out completely, you might try our free PDF to HTML conversion at http://www.gohtm.com, or download the free Beta version of our Magellan 4.2 plug-in for Acrobat (also for PDF to HTML conversion). Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 16:50:53-GMT,3947;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09332 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:50:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25184; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:26:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:21:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24692; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:21:03 -0500 Received: from mail.printtime.com ([216.117.48.185]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA24675; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:20:57 -0500 Received: from [216.117.48.185] (HELO printtime.com) by mail.printtime.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.7) with ESMTP id S.0000065065; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:22:19 -0500 Message-ID: <39C0FAD3.37CBAFA1@printtime.com> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:20:35 -0500 From: Matt Little X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com, "'Acrobat Talk'" , pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com Subject: Re: [PDF] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Free Software from Enfocus Software References: <000601c01dbe$d94344b0$9111e0d5@dellxpsr450> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ David, these look to be very nifty plug-ins. The problem is, now that I've loaded them, I get an error dialog box when I launch Acrobat: "There was an error while loading the plug-in '_________' (webperfectpower/powerme up). There was a Macintosh system error (-2804)." Ideas? Thx. Matt Little -- Matt Little Technology Manager Print Time, Inc. 816-756-3583 x25 mlittle@printtime.com http://www.printtime.com David van Driessche wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Dear list-readers, > > I have a habit of not promoting our software directly on this list - in this > case however I have to break my own rule. Enfocus Software is giving away > 1000 copies of both new products we announced at Seybold: WebPerfect PDF and > PowerUp PDF. > > If you want to know more: go to the following links on our web site: > > http://www.enfocus.com/webperfectpower > http://www.enfocus.com/powermeup > > These links will allow the first 1000 visitors who download these products > to receive a free Registration Key... I thought this was an opportunity I > had to share with you. > > Don't rush over there just yet - the action starts on September 14 at 9.00 > am PST (which is the San Francisco time zone)... > > I thought this was too good not to share with you. > David. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be > Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com > Director of Software Development > ---------------------------------- > Out of memory. > We wish to hold the whole sky, > But we never will. > -------------------------------------------- > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 17:19:29-GMT,4359;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10145 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:19:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28091; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:01:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:57:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27795; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:57:05 -0500 Received: from cas02.cas-inc.com (cas02.cas-inc.com [208.140.76.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27778 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:57:02 -0500 Received: by CAS02 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:58:15 -0500 Message-ID: <2DD6F1865775D4119A10009027B108F92B5A76@CAS02> From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Free Software from Enfocus Software Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:58:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Same here. Seems I got the demo version too instead of the free version even though I was constantly refreshing the page to be one of the first 1000. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Little [mailto:mlittle@printtime.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 10:21 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com; pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com; 'Acrobat Talk'; pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com Subject: Re: [PDF] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Free Software from Enfocus Software The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ David, these look to be very nifty plug-ins. The problem is, now that I've loaded them, I get an error dialog box when I launch Acrobat: "There was an error while loading the plug-in '_________' (webperfectpower/powerme up). There was a Macintosh system error (-2804)." Ideas? Thx. Matt Little -- Matt Little Technology Manager Print Time, Inc. 816-756-3583 x25 mlittle@printtime.com http://www.printtime.com David van Driessche wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Dear list-readers, > > I have a habit of not promoting our software directly on this list - in this > case however I have to break my own rule. Enfocus Software is giving away > 1000 copies of both new products we announced at Seybold: WebPerfect PDF and > PowerUp PDF. > > If you want to know more: go to the following links on our web site: > > http://www.enfocus.com/webperfectpower > http://www.enfocus.com/powermeup > > These links will allow the first 1000 visitors who download these products > to receive a free Registration Key... I thought this was an opportunity I > had to share with you. > > Don't rush over there just yet - the action starts on September 14 at 9.00 > am PST (which is the San Francisco time zone)... > > I thought this was too good not to share with you. > David. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be > Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com > Director of Software Development > ---------------------------------- > Out of memory. > We wish to hold the whole sky, > But we never will. > -------------------------------------------- > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 19:14:38-GMT,7601;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13432 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:14:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02769; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:57:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:52:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02270; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:52:00 -0500 Received: from generic2.axs2000.net (mail@[209.146.38.26]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02266 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:51:58 -0500 Received: from bertha (209-146-91-150ppp.axs2000.net [209.146.91.150]) by generic2.axs2000.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA03959 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:51:58 -0500 From: "James Rile" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Speaking of PDF searches... Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:51:50 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01c01e7c$d84125a0$0100a8c0@bertha> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >The regular Internet search engines (such as AltaVista, Google and >HotBot) index HTML and text files, and ignore files in other formats >such as the Portable Document Format (PDF) format. > That's COMPLETELY false! > Altavista, for example, FULLY supports searching PDF >documents. Adobe, for example, uses it for providing searching of >their internal Intranet - including the MANY PDF documents included >therein. AltaVista, Google, HotBot DO ignore PDF files, but only because they are configured to do so by choice as public internet search portals. The AltaVista Ultraseek search engine, as a product, can be configured to index and search PDF files, as is done on the Adobe site and at http://searchpdf.adobe.com/ For that matter, the free Microsoft Index Server can be configured (with the Adobe iFilter) to index and search PDF files. The problem with Ultraseek and these other search engines is that they do not store the coordinates of the words, nor the pages they are located on. Therefore, search term highlighting and hit page downloading are not possible. You can search, find and open a PDF file, but it just opens with normal byteserving (page-at-a-time downloading starting with Page 1) and no highlighting. The hit page navigation buttons are not enabled. Search Term Highlighting is one of the attractive features of Acrobat Catalog (precision searching down to the word or phrase level) that is not available in these web-based search engines. These problems have been overcome by PDF WebSearch, which DOES perform search term highlighting, and is configured for "intelligent byteserving" (downloading just the hit pages), and enabling hit page navigation. Note that the hit page navigation buttons are on the far-right of button bar when Acrobat Reader is used as a plug-in to the browser. This "intelligent bytserving" overcomes the problem of PDF file size. If your search phrase occurs on 3 pages for example, they download to the browser for display in the same amount of time, whether the PDF is a 10-page document or a 1000-page document. >Continuing the comments on the lack of indexing by the search engines. If >Altavista does index pdf documents, what do you have to do to get them to >see the files?. Do you have to give up security to get them to index the >files? I have been trying to find some search engine that indexes files for >over two years? (including Altavista) >Intranet is a different creature from the Internet. >If there is a secret for getting pdf files indexed perhaps you could share >it with the list Leonard. Again, to get AltaVista to index PDF files, all you have to do is add PDF as an indexable file type. Security is another matter. As long as the Adobe PDF File Parser is used under the hood of these search engines, indexing secured PDF files is not possible. This is overly conservative in my view. It is OK to prevent indexing of User-protected PDF (password required to open it), but Owner-protected PDF (printing or copying prohibited) should be indexed. In the near future, PDF WebSearch (which uses the Adobe PDF parser currently) will use a custom PDF parser that will allow indexing of Owner-protected PDF files. Expect this to be available in one or two months time. As a current workaround for PDF WebSearch (and probably the other search engines as well), it is possible to build a search index with unprotected PDF, then "swap-in" the owner-protected versions of these files. As the developer of PDF WebSearch, let me explain that this product is an ASP (Active Server Pages) application that sits on top of the dtSearch search engine. The ASP code can be modified to give the search and retrieval pages a customized appearance that matches the rest of the website, and which use custom fields. A big innovation in PDF WebSearch, which is available nowhere else to my knowledge, is the use of custom DocInfo fields for fielded queries that can be combined with full-text queries. PDF has four DocInfo (metadata) fields that can be populated (Title, Subject, Author, Keywords). Most document collections will benefit from additional fields, such as Authoring Date, Description, Set, Type, Department etc. The traditional approach is to define and populate these fields in a database, then the database can be searched when doing indexed (structured) queries. In PDF WebSearch, the values of the custom fields are extracted from the PDF files by the search engine and placed in stored fields along with the full-text index. Now they can be used for searching in conjunction with full-text searching - and this without a database. An added benefit is custom fields is that they can be used to generate dynamic link lists. For example, you might have an HTML page with a manually-constructed list of hyperlinks to "research documents". If you create a custom field called DocType, and add the word "research" to the applicable documents, now you can retire the manual link list and instead create a hyperlink that performs the query "DocType=research". Now the list of research documents will be created dynamically. From this dynamically-created list (on the Results screen), a Refine Query can be performed on the full text of this document subset (just the research documents). This functionality is aptly demonstrated in live demonstrations available from the PDF WebSearch Live! section of my website, www.pdfwebsearch.com. PDF WebSearch gives you all the functionality of Acrobat Catalog on the web, plus more! James Rile James Rile Associates Tel: (610) 983-3682 Fax: (267) 200-0004 sales@pdfwebsearch.com http://www.pdfwebsearch.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 20:28:04-GMT,3598;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15536 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08318; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:17:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:12:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08020; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:12:26 -0500 Received: from exchange.kayesmith.com (ftp.kayesmith.com [208.222.254.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08016 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:12:24 -0500 Received: by 175.infobaz.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:06:12 -0700 Message-ID: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE01329E1@175.infobaz.com> From: Matt Beals To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Free Software from Enfocus Software Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:06:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Yeah, what is going on here? I have the same problem too. Matt Beals -----Original Message----- From: David van Driessche [mailto:davidvd@enfocus.be] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:12 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com; pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com; 'Acrobat Talk'; pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com Subject: [PDF] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Free Software from Enfocus Software The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dear list-readers, I have a habit of not promoting our software directly on this list - in this case however I have to break my own rule. Enfocus Software is giving away 1000 copies of both new products we announced at Seybold: WebPerfect PDF and PowerUp PDF. If you want to know more: go to the following links on our web site: http://www.enfocus.com/webperfectpower http://www.enfocus.com/powermeup These links will allow the first 1000 visitors who download these products to receive a free Registration Key... I thought this was an opportunity I had to share with you. Don't rush over there just yet - the action starts on September 14 at 9.00 am PST (which is the San Francisco time zone)... I thought this was too good not to share with you. David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com Director of Software Development ---------------------------------- Out of memory. We wish to hold the whole sky, But we never will. -------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 20:42:27-GMT,2326;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15901 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09281; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:30:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:26:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09012; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:26:18 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09008 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:26:17 -0500 From: BooksOnScr@aol.com Received: from BooksOnScr@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id j.7e.a415dba (16789) for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7e.a415dba.26f28e53@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:25:55 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Free Software from Enfocus Software To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Language: en X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 28 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA09009 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In a message dated 9/14/00 4:19:55 PM, Matt.Beals@kayesmith.com writes: << Yeah, what is going on here? I have the same problem too. >> Books OnScreenâ„¢ ______________________________________________________________________________ _____ E-books for Every Reader Mine is working perfectly -- on my Mac. Kim Blagg PageFree Publishing, Inc. Books OnScreenâ„¢ www.booksonscreen.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 21:02:43-GMT,2860;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16560 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:02:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10820; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:50:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:45:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10605; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:45:49 -0500 Received: from mail.printtime.com ([216.117.48.185]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA10595 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:45:40 -0500 Received: from [216.117.48.185] (HELO printtime.com) by mail.printtime.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.7) with ESMTP id S.0000065358 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:47:03 -0500 Message-ID: <39C138D4.B5AA9E2F@printtime.com> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:45:20 -0500 From: Matt Little X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Free Software from Enfocus Software References: <7e.a415dba.26f28e53@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ That sure doesn't help me too much. -- Matt Little Technology Manager Print Time, Inc. 816-756-3583 x25 mlittle@printtime.com http://www.printtime.com BooksOnScr@aol.com wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > In a message dated 9/14/00 4:19:55 PM, Matt.Beals@kayesmith.com writes: > > << Yeah, what is going on here? I have the same problem too. >> > > Books OnScreenâ„¢ > ______________________________________________________________________________ > _____ > E-books for Every Reader > > > Mine is working perfectly -- on my Mac. > > Kim Blagg > PageFree Publishing, Inc. > Books OnScreenâ„¢ > www.booksonscreen.com > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 21:23:27-GMT,2482;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17109 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:23:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12144; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:03:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:59:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11708; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:59:43 -0500 Received: from exchange.kayesmith.com (ftp.kayesmith.com [208.222.254.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11695 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:59:41 -0500 Received: by 175.infobaz.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:53:35 -0700 Message-ID: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE01329E2@175.infobaz.com> From: Matt Beals To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Enfocus Software Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:53:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ How do we know if we were one of the first thousand? Matt Beals -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Bauer [mailto:Andreas.Bauer@bio.uni-giessen.de] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:52 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Enfocus Software The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Works pretty good. WIN98 Btw, it is a 30day trail version and they will send you the registration-key via email within 30 days. Hope it helps Andreas --- www.advanced-documents.de Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 21:24:49-GMT,1970;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17148 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:24:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11398; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:56:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:52:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11092; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:52:03 -0500 Received: from hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de (hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de [134.176.2.15]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11046 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:52:02 -0500 Received: from [134.176.2.163] by hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de with ESMTP for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:51:52 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Andreas Bauer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:51:32 +0100 User-Agent: IMHO/0.98 (Webmail for Roxen) Subject: [PDF] Enfocus Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Works pretty good. WIN98 Btw, it is a 30day trail version and they will send you the registration-key via email within 30 days. Hope it helps Andreas --- www.advanced-documents.de Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 22:00:03-GMT,1962;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18140 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:00:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15170; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:42:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:38:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14823; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:38:25 -0500 Received: from merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de (merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de [134.176.2.12]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14818 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:38:23 -0500 Received: from [134.176.2.163] by merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de with ESMTP for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 23:38:17 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Andreas Bauer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 23:37:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE01329E2@175.infobaz.com> User-Agent: IMHO/0.98 (Webmail for Roxen) Subject: RE: [PDF] Enfocus Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ good question, no idea. I hope that I am one of the lucky ones who get the regkey with an email :-) Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 22:10:49-GMT,2514;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18403 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:10:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16267; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:58:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:54:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15955; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:54:04 -0500 Received: from mail.printtime.com ([216.117.48.185]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA15947 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:54:02 -0500 Received: from [216.117.48.185] (HELO printtime.com) by mail.printtime.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.7) with ESMTP id S.0000065453 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:55:25 -0500 Message-ID: <39C148E1.75078913@printtime.com> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:53:41 -0500 From: Matt Little X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Enfocus Software References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ It won't matter much if I cant get the darn things to work. Andreas Bauer wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > good question, no idea. > > I hope that I am one of the lucky ones who get the regkey with an > email :-) > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Matt Little Technology Manager Print Time, Inc. 816-756-3583 x25 mlittle@printtime.com http://www.printtime.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 12:28:37-GMT,2389;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04807 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 06:28:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28331; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:20:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:14:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28022; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:14:36 -0500 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28018 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:14:35 -0500 Received: from [63.22.117.166] (1Cust166.tnt6.bos2.da.uu.net [63.22.117.166]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA17433 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 05:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009151214.FAA17433@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:19:49 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Tim Pritchard To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hullo... I'm new to this list, so I apologize in advance if this has been covered prior to this post... I'm trying to extract graphics (pictures or charts) from exiting pdf files...is there a quick-and-dirty way to do this using either Acrobat or another third-party product? I've been enlarging the files to 300% of their original size in Reader and then taking a screenshot, but the results are predictably mediocre... Thanks...and feel free to respond to me privately if this topic is old news... Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 13:03:27-GMT,3397;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05440 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:03:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30424; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:52:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:48:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30132; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:48:42 -0500 Received: from crdnsserver.cedarapids.com ([216.161.203.28]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30127 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:48:41 -0500 Received: from cedarapids.com ([199.46.217.13]) by crdnsserver.cedarapids.com (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA03171 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:50:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:48:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Jerry Meyer" Received: from ccMail by cedarapids.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.52.00.1) id 2413053512; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:50:18 -0500 Importance: normal Subject: Re: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Message-Id: <2413053512@cedarapids.com> X-MIME-Engine: v0.90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Id: <2413053512-1@cedarapids.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Many of Adobes other products will open PDF files (Illustrator for vector graphics, Photoshop for bitmap images, etc.) where they can be saved in several different formats as needed. I believe their are also many third party "Conversion" utilities available that will take a PDF to a Postscript file. Check out PDFZone or one of the other PDF-centric web sites for available software. Jerry me _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at SMTP Date: 9/15/00 8:19 AM The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hullo... I'm new to this list, so I apologize in advance if this has been covered prior to this post... I'm trying to extract graphics (pictures or charts) from exiting pdf files...is there a quick-and-dirty way to do this using either Acrobat or another third-party product? I've been enlarging the files to 300% of their original size in Reader and then taking a screenshot, but the results are predictably mediocre... Thanks...and feel free to respond to me privately if this topic is old news... Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 15:15:17-GMT,2520;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08322 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:15:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06722; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:50:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:45:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06370; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:45:56 -0500 Received: from axion.net (popper1.vphos.net [207.102.129.202]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA06365 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:45:55 -0500 Received: from [207.102.191.68] ([207.102.191.68]) by popper1.vphos.net ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:45:51 -0700 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:46:36 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: Re: [PDF] Speaking of PDF searches... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ James, I would like to thank you for your comprehensive overview of the issue of pdf searches. I hope that your search engine is picked up by the companies that provide them for the general public to use. I guess that's my personal catagory. I provide content for the users of the web and am not really able to start my own site with a general search and index capability. I've put a search engine in my site for my site using Atomz but even this doesn't work as well as I wanted. (It's supposed to be able to index my pdf files) Thanks again, Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net Internet stores: www.travel-media.com and www.mapmatrix.com ************************************* Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 15:19:49-GMT,4713;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08450 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:19:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08006; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:06:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:02:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07729; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:02:18 -0500 Received: from mail.kcc.com (mail.kcc.com [205.203.93.10]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07725 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:02:17 -0500 Received: from 165.28.96.57 by mail.kcc.com with ESMTP (WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.3); Fri, 15 Sep 00 09:58:29 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Received: by ustcax01.kcc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.30) id ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:58:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com'" , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Enfocus Software Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:58:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.30) X-WSS-ID: 15DCE69F13822-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ While I am by no means someone who can formally speak for Enfocus, I think I know what's going on with the arrangements for the free software and can clear things up so we can move on. The information I am presenting is gathered from having asked similar questions directly to Enfocus in the past and a reading of the current offer. While I believe it is accurate, I'll happily accept corrections from an Enfocus representative. First, as to the availability of the Digital River site which processes their downloads-- There are lots of things that can go wrong on the net; many are temporary or local. Just try again. If you have repeated problems, it may be an issue of security or connection. See if you can use other secure servers from the computer you're using. I can attest that the Digital River servers exist and normally work just fine. Second, as to the download appearing to have a cost of $0.00-- I have found that this is simply Digital River's way of saying that what you are downloading is free. Enfocus products all seem to be available as free downloads, so this $0.00 designation is not an indicator that you have received the full version of the product free. What you have downloaded is a timed trial version. You may always download these timed trials from Enfocus, but it's the registration key that makes them function without the timed demo status. Third, as to whether or not you, in particular, managed a free copy-- There seems to be no good way to know at this time. The site states that if you were one of the first 1000 downloaders you will receive your registration key (which will allow your downloaded copy to continue to function after its trial period) via e-mail within 30 days. If 30 days pass and you don't receive a registration key, you should assume you're not a winner. Fourth, as to David van Driessche pointing out the offer-- There's a good chance he just saved at least some of us some money, and I haven't noticed any of us appreciating that yet. Thanks, David. That was very considerate of you. I hope this helps clear up some of the confusion about Enfocus' generous free offer. Joel Kinstle Eagerly Waiting To See If I'm A Winner, Too ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. ============================================================================== Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 15:25:05-GMT,2315;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08590 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:25:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08998; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:15:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:11:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08545; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:11:45 -0500 Received: from asteroid.bcl-computers.com (mail.bclcomputers.com [216.216.8.132]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08538 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:11:44 -0500 Received: from Neptune.bcl-computers.com (cm-24-142-178-116.flagstaff.npg.ispchannel.com [24.142.178.116]) by asteroid.bcl-computers.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id RSRKB168; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:21:55 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000915080604.00be3100@216.216.8.132> X-Sender: sulojana@216.216.8.132 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:08:39 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: sulojana blows Subject: Re: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files In-Reply-To: <200009151214.FAA17433@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Tim Check the plugin tools on www. bclcomputers.com . Sulojana At 08:19 AM 9/15/00 -0500, Tim Pritchard wrote: >I'm trying to extract graphics (pictures or charts) from exiting pdf >files...is there >a quick-and-dirty way to do this using either Acrobat or another >third-party >product? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 15:30:11-GMT,4956;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08741 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:30:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09468; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:19:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:15:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08808; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:15:08 -0500 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08792 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:15:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 4302 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2000 15:15:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jacquesdb) ([213.224.11.253]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Sep 2000 15:15:02 -0000 From: "Jacques De Bruyne" To: , , , , "'Acrobat Talk'" Subject: [PDF] RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Free Software from Enfocus Software Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:17:54 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c01dbe$d94344b0$9111e0d5@dellxpsr450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.1.20000913141642.01c98eb0@pop.recorder.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA08795 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dear list-readers, The downloads are going fast and we expect to attain the 1000 downloads by the end of tomorrow. Please allow me to answer the most frequent questions regarding these new products: Q. How will I know if I am one of the first 1000? A. The first 1000 visitors who download Enfocus WebPerfect PDF or Enfocus PowerUp PDF will receive a license key via e-mail within 2 weeks after downloading which will allow you to register your copy. Q. When downloading the free product, I actually get the trial version? A. Correct, all our products run initially in trial mode and should be registered with the license string to unlock the program after the trial period. Q. What are the differences between PowerUp PDF and PitStop Professional? A. PowerUp PDF is a text and graphics editing plug-in for Adobe Acrobat, positioned to larger segments of the PDF publishing community. More detailed information can be found on http://www.enfocus.com/powerup_pdf.htm PitStop Professional is our centerpiece new PDF tool and addresses the needs of professional PDF users with the most complete feature set including preflight, editing, global changes and action lists. More info on http://www.enfocus.com/psMore.htm Q. I receive the error message "There was an error while loading the plug-in 'PowerUp PDF'. There was a Macintosh system error (-2804)." A. We are currently trying to pin down the problem. We expect to have an answer to this problem beginning of next week. Q. I don't seem to be able to access the online manual? A. This error only occurs on Windows systems. An updated version of both products will be posted shortly. Workaround : open the folder "\Adobe\Acrobat 4.0\Acrobat\plug_ins\Enfocus\Documentation" and remove the word PDF from the filename. So now you know where we store our help files... Here are the links again in case you would have missed the earlier postings. http://www.enfocus.com/webperfectpower http://www.enfocus.com/powermeup Kind regards, =========================================== Jacques De Bruyne, Software support manager Enfocus Software NV Kleindokkaai 3-5, B-9000 Gent, Belgium Voice: +32 9 269 16 90 Fax: +32 9 269 16 91 Email: support@enfocus.com Web: www.enfocus.com Please include all correspondence regarding support questions. ============================================================== Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 15:32:24-GMT,2668;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08802 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09938; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:22:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:18:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09336; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:18:28 -0500 Received: from smtpnew.quark.com (root@smtpnew.quark.com [206.195.78.16]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09329 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:18:26 -0500 Received: from denver.quark.com (denver.quark.com [206.195.71.192]) by smtpnew.quark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25094 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:31:01 -0600 Received: by denver.quark.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:18:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C08734A00@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Enfocus Software Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:18:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ David, list, et.al. I second Joel's comments, especially the one snipped above. Here, here David!! Todd Reid QA Engineer Quark, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Kinstle, Joel [mailto:jkinstle@kcc.com] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:58 AM To: 'pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com'; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Enfocus Software The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 16:02:41-GMT,2347;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09649 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:02:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13596; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:53:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:49:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13106; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:49:03 -0500 Received: from silverrun.com (rs6000.silverrun.com [199.166.211.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13096 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:49:01 -0500 Received: from seanr.silverrun.com ([199.166.211.39]) by silverrun.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id LAA23246 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005001c01f2b$64055620$27d3a6c7@silverrun.com> From: "Sean Rooney" To: References: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C08734A00@denver.quark.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Enfocus Software Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:41:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Reid > > I second Joel's comments, especially the one snipped above. > > Here, here David!! > > Todd Reid > QA Engineer > Quark, Inc. Me too, David! Thanks for the info. And in case I'm not one of the first 1000 to respond, just cross Todd's name out and write mine in! ;-) Sean Rooney Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 15:53:01-GMT,3345;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09319 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:53:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11273; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:32:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:27:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10688; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:27:32 -0500 Received: from mail.printtime.com ([216.117.48.185]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA10681 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:27:30 -0500 Received: from [216.117.48.185] (HELO printtime.com) by mail.printtime.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.7) with ESMTP id S.0000065745 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:28:33 -0500 Message-ID: <39C23FC3.8720024E@printtime.com> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:27:12 -0500 From: Matt Little X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Enfocus Software References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I don't want to appear ungrateful, but I'm not saving much money if the plug-ins don't work. "Kinstle, Joel" wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Fourth, as to David van Driessche pointing out the offer-- > There's a good chance he just saved at least some of us some money, and I > haven't noticed any of us appreciating that yet. Thanks, David. That was > very considerate of you. > > I hope this helps clear up some of the confusion about Enfocus' generous > free offer. > > Joel Kinstle > Eagerly Waiting To See If I'm A Winner, Too > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you have received this message in error, please inform us promptly by reply e-mail, then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. Thank you. > > ============================================================================== > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Matt Little Technology Manager Print Time, Inc. 816-756-3583 x25 mlittle@printtime.com http://www.printtime.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 17:06:00-GMT,2451;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11769 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:05:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18168; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:55:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:49:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17796; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:49:57 -0500 Received: from irvexch1.sota.com (exchange.stateoftheart.com [63.87.136.19]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17792 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:49:56 -0500 Received: by IRVEXCH1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:44:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Using Distiller .joboptions Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:44:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Good Morning List (at least it's morning here), I have several projects I'm working on which require different distiller settings. Currently, I have several watched folders and know I can use the "setdistillerparams" operator in prologue.ps file to change the settings based on the project. To make it easier to maintain, I would like to be able to initiate a specific .joboptions file through the prologue.ps file. Is there a command available that would accomplish this feat? Something like << use project1.joboptions >> setdistillerparams. I appreciate any assistance you can provide. Randy Johnston Developer Support Services Sage Software, Inc. 800.854.3415 ext. 4380 Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Sep-2000 7:10:40-GMT,4525;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26083 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 01:10:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01057; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 01:59:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 17 Sep 2000 01:47:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00281; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 01:47:33 -0500 Received: from mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu (mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu [128.146.214.30]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00277 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 01:47:31 -0500 Received: from [216.68.105.153] (dial26.pool4.IX.Net [216.68.105.153]) by mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15714 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 02:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kornel.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 02:47:03 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Karl Kornel Subject: [PDF] Major Problem with Acrobat Catalog Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dear Acrobat users, I have been having a very unusual problem with Adobe Acrobat Catalog that has been plaguing me since Acrobat 3 (I am now using Acrobat 4). The same error occurs each time I try to build an index, but here is what happened with my most resent attempt. First, I used AppleWorks & PDFWriter to create a PDF containing the phrases "This is Text" and "This is more text", with nothing else. I can use the Find option perfectly well in Acrobat. I placed the PDF in it's own folder and named it "test.pdf" (no quotes in any actual file names), and used Catalog to create a new index. I named it Test Index, and saved it as "index.pdx". I then re-entered the PDF file and told it to use index.pdx as it's index. After saving and closing the PDF, I went into Catalog and tried to build the index. I received the following messages: Starting build. Connecting to index. Search Engine Message: (0) Error (): Error initializing message database Search Engine Message: (0) Error (): Warning initializing Failed to attach to index. Index Build Failed. Macintosh HD:Desktop Folder:Test:index.pdx - Index Build Failed. For some reason, this is what I receive whenever I try to build an index (except the file names are different). I do not know why this occurs. I have searched the Support Database, User to User forums, and Top Issues, but my specific error message(s) (or lack thereof) could not be found. There are no Technical Guides for troubleshooting Acrobat 4. Also, there were no responses to the post I made in the User-to-User forums. I have not yet called Adobe Technical Support, and do not want to let my 90 precious days of free support trickle away. If anyone can give me any help, I would appreciate it I'm using Acrobat 4. The specific versions are Catalog 4.0.5, Acrobat (Exchange) 4.05a (Update 1 applied), Distiller 4.0.5, and PDFWriter 4.0.5. Each program has at least 32Mb of RAM allocated to it. I'm running OS 9.0.4 on a B&W G3. This problem has existed since I had Acrobat 3, OS 8.0, and a Performa 6400/200. On both machines, I have always had enough disk space free to satisfy Catalog's building requirement. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. -- ===================================================== | Alfred Karl Kornel kornel.1@osu.edu | | PGP Keys: | | | | Webmaster Of: | | | | | ===================================================== Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Sep-2000 21:30:07-GMT,2798;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10615 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:30:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07489; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:52:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:43:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06979; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:43:00 -0500 Received: from mail (mail.document-solutions.com [216.103.111.12]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA06975 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:42:59 -0500 Received: from OAKLAND-Message_Server by mail with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 13:42:57 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 13:42:04 -0700 From: "Susan Frank" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Font Width Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA06976 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Andy, Have you tried using the Character tab menu that's available in the Text Attributes window for the Touch-Up tool? The upper left option allows you to adjust font width. Susan Frank Document Solutions, Inc www.document-solutions.com >>> andy.kemp@iname.com 09/11/00 01:17 AM >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ When I scan a page into Acrobat, and OCR it, any dubious words are highlit. This is fine, except that when I change or accept the word, it is set to 80% width. With the text touch-up tool I can change the font, the point size etc (so it isn't a font embedding thing ...) but I can't change the font width back to 100% for love nor money. This is driving me nuts! Anyone got an idea???? Andy Kemp Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Sep-2000 23:35:17-GMT,8491;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13104 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:35:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14927; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:27:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:21:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14608; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:21:39 -0500 Received: from dfw-smtpout2.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout2.email.verio.net [129.250.36.42]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14604 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:21:37 -0500 Received: from [129.250.38.61] (helo=dfw-mmp1.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout2.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #7) id 13ankf-0003hc-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 23:21:37 +0000 Received: from adsl-63-205-14-121.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net ([63.205.14.121] helo=ns.net) by dfw-mmp1.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #4) id 13anke-0004iK-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 23:21:36 +0000 Message-ID: <39C5519D.3E89CA1E@ns.net> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 16:19:57 -0700 From: Lee Crisan Organization: EdiGraphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,es-ES,fr-FR,de-DE,pt-BR,ro MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] REMOVE References: <200009170647.BAA00300@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ pdf-digest wrote: > > pdf-digest Sunday, September 17 2000 Volume 02 : Number 889 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > There are 3 messages totalling 199 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the Day: > > 1. Re: [PDF] Enfocus Software > 2. [PDF] Using Distiller .joboptions > 3. [PDF] Major Problem with Acrobat Catalog > > __________________________________________________________ > This is the Digest of the PDF discussion list > A service provided to the PDF Community by PDFzone.com > <- Search more than 300 plug-ins and tools for Acrobat -> > <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolfilter.html -> > __________________________________________________________ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:41:17 -0400 > From: "Sean Rooney" > Subject: Re: [PDF] Enfocus Software > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Todd Reid > > > > > I second Joel's comments, especially the one snipped above. > > > > Here, here David!! > > > > Todd Reid > > QA Engineer > > Quark, Inc. > > Me too, David! Thanks for the info. > > And in case I'm not one of the first 1000 to respond, just cross > Todd's name out and write mine in! ;-) > > Sean Rooney > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:44:33 -0700 > From: "Johnston,Randy" > Subject: [PDF] Using Distiller .joboptions > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Good Morning List (at least it's morning here), > > I have several projects I'm working on which require different distiller > settings. > > Currently, I have several watched folders and know I can use the > "setdistillerparams" operator in prologue.ps file to change the settings > based on the project. > > To make it easier to maintain, I would like to be able to initiate a > specific .joboptions file through the prologue.ps file. Is there a command > available that would accomplish this feat? Something like << use > project1.joboptions >> setdistillerparams. > > I appreciate any assistance you can provide. > > Randy Johnston > Developer Support Services > Sage Software, Inc. > 800.854.3415 ext. 4380 > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 02:47:03 -0400 > From: Karl Kornel > Subject: [PDF] Major Problem with Acrobat Catalog > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Dear Acrobat users, > > I have been having a very unusual problem with Adobe Acrobat > Catalog that has been plaguing me since Acrobat 3 (I am now using > Acrobat 4). The same error occurs each time I try to build an index, > but here is what happened with my most resent attempt. > > First, I used AppleWorks & PDFWriter to create a PDF > containing the phrases "This is Text" and "This is more text", with > nothing else. I can use the Find option perfectly well in Acrobat. > I placed the PDF in it's own folder and named it "test.pdf" (no > quotes in any actual file names), and used Catalog to create a new > index. I named it Test Index, and saved it as "index.pdx". I then > re-entered the PDF file and told it to use index.pdx as it's index. > After saving and closing the PDF, I went into Catalog and tried to > build the index. I received the following messages: > > Starting build. > Connecting to index. > Search Engine Message: (0) Error (): Error initializing message database > Search Engine Message: (0) Error (): Warning initializing > Failed to attach to index. > Index Build Failed. > Macintosh HD:Desktop Folder:Test:index.pdx - Index Build Failed. > > For some reason, this is what I receive whenever I try to > build an index (except the file names are different). I do not know > why this occurs. > > I have searched the Support Database, User to User forums, > and Top Issues, but my specific error message(s) (or lack thereof) > could not be found. There are no Technical Guides for > troubleshooting Acrobat 4. Also, there were no responses to the post > I made in the User-to-User forums. I have not yet called Adobe > Technical Support, and do not want to let my 90 precious days of free > support trickle away. If anyone can give me any help, I would > appreciate it > > I'm using Acrobat 4. The specific versions are Catalog > 4.0.5, Acrobat (Exchange) 4.05a (Update 1 applied), Distiller 4.0.5, > and PDFWriter 4.0.5. Each program has at least 32Mb of RAM allocated > to it. I'm running OS 9.0.4 on a B&W G3. This problem has existed > since I had Acrobat 3, OS 8.0, and a Performa 6400/200. On both > machines, I have always had enough disk space free to satisfy > Catalog's building requirement. > > Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. > - -- > ===================================================== > | Alfred Karl Kornel kornel.1@osu.edu | > | PGP Keys: | > | | > | Webmaster Of: | > | | > | | > ===================================================== > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > End of pdf-digest V2 #889 > ************************* > > List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Sep-2000 14:37:03-GMT,3594;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29258 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:37:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27097; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:10:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:54:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26042; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:54:36 -0500 Received: from pdgsi.com (sugind.tusco.net [209.57.212.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26034 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:54:30 -0500 Received: from 1240 [209.57.212.6] by pdgsi.com [209.57.225.236] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.T) for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:50:36 -0400 From: "Dave Miller" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Formatting a String Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:54:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Max, Thanks for mentioning the Javascript Reference. I will be using it a lot! =) Dave Miller -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Max Wyss Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:19 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: Dave Miller Subject: Re: [PDF] Formatting a String The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dave, probably the best for your application would be using JavaScript with string manipulations. The first step would be getting the JavaScript Client Side Reference and Guide from Netscape's developer area. There you look up the syntax for the String object. You would use the substring(), charAt() and indexOf() methods. You would analyze your string, for example by looking at the position of spaces or so, and take the according substrings. Then you might have to put it together again. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >What would be a good way to format this value (36 x 80) from a Combo Box >field and split it into two values width and height, Width = 36, Height = >80? 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Pdfzone. Com" Subject: [PDF] Checking length of string Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:26:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, What is the proper syntax to do this, "if a string length is greater than 7 do this; otherwise, do this"? example: var a = this.getField("size").value; var b = a.length; if(b=>7){ width.value = "Triple Patio"; } else{ width.value = "Not A Triple Patio"; } TIA, Dave Miller Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Sep-2000 18:06:27-GMT,2598;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06025 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:06:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12001; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:57:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:51:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11559; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:51:44 -0500 Received: from pdgsi.com (sugind.tusco.net [209.57.212.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11551 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:51:38 -0500 Received: from 1240 [209.57.212.6] by pdgsi.com [209.57.225.236] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.T) for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:48:29 -0400 From: "Dave Miller" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Checking length of string Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:52:16 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Hi all, > > What is the proper syntax to do this, "if a string length is > greater than 7 > do this; otherwise, do this"? > > example: > var a = this.getField("size").value; > var b = a.length; > > if(b=>7){ > width.value = "Triple Patio"; > } > else{ > width.value = "Not A Triple Patio"; > } > > TIA, > Dave Miller I just got it to work: var width = this.getField("width"); var a = this.getField("size").value; var b = a.length; if(b>"7"){ width.value = "Triple Patio"; } else{ width.value = "Not A Triple Patio"; } Thanks anyway, Dave Miller Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Sep-2000 18:11:10-GMT,2047;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06187 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:11:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12521; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:01:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:56:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11961; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:56:41 -0500 Received: from niagarac.on.ca (mail.niagara-college.com [192.197.62.37]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11954 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:56:27 -0500 Received: from NCGWDOMAIN1-Message_Server by niagarac.on.ca with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:50:17 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:50:00 -0400 From: "Bob Roach" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] A PDF Mark for no-printing? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA11958 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Is there such a thing as PDF Mark code that would disable printing from Acrobat for the page it was inserted on? If not, is there any way to disable printing for selected pages in a PDF document? -Bob Roach Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Sep-2000 18:55:47-GMT,2219;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07564 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:55:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16226; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:48:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:42:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15848; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:42:21 -0500 Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz (smtp4.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15842 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:42:18 -0500 Received: from p266 (p176-tnt6.akl.ihug.co.nz [216.100.154.176]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id GAA19180 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:42:07 +1200 Message-ID: <002f01c021a0$ab115e20$b09a64d8@p266> From: "Andrew Smith" To: References: Subject: [PDF] Academic version of Acrobat Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:45:44 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know if there is any difference in the Academic version of Acrobat (Version 4)? To me it seems to have full functionality, but I can't get the Enfocus sostware program to work. Any suggestions . . . Andrew Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Sep-2000 20:09:37-GMT,2429;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09699 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:09:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20440; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:49:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:44:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20043; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:43:59 -0500 Received: from pdgsi.com (sugind.tusco.net [209.57.212.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20035 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:43:57 -0500 Received: from 1240 [209.57.212.6] by pdgsi.com [209.57.225.236] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.T) for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:40:50 -0400 From: "Dave Miller" To: "Pdf@Lists. Pdfzone. Com" Subject: [PDF] String to Number Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:44:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I have another question. Here is the code: (Thanks to Donald Story) var str = "36 x 80"; var Width = str.replace(" x.*",""); // Width value is 36 var a = this.getField("field1"); a.value = (Width.value + 1); I want field1 to display a value of 37 (36 + 1). With the above code the field1 value is "undefined1". Is it because I need to change the Width variable to a number instead of a string? How? Thanks again, Dave Miller. 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The software's not different, just the price. George Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Sep-2000 20:39:07-GMT,3209;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10685 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:39:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22070; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:09:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:04:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21621; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:04:06 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21616 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:04:05 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12546; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:04:01 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:04:04 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] String to Number Cc: "Dave Miller" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dave, this is absolutely correct behaviour, as there is no value property of your Width variable, the way you have defined it. The variable, the way you have defined it, IS the value. Also, you might have another look at the replace() function. I am not sure, if it does give the desired results. In order to convert a value from a string to a number, you might either try to multiply it with 1, or have a look at AForm.js in the JavaScripts folder in the AcroForm folder in the Plug-ins folder of your Acrobat installation. There is a precooked function which can help you convert your string to a number. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >Here is the code: (Thanks to Donald Story) >var str = "36 x 80"; >var Width = str.replace(" x.*",""); >// Width value is 36 > >var a = this.getField("field1"); >a.value = (Width.value + 1); > >I want field1 to display a value of 37 (36 + 1). With the above code the >field1 value is "undefined1". Is it because I need to change the Width >variable to a number instead of a string? How? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Sep-2000 21:00:28-GMT,3987;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11493 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:00:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26227; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:49:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:44:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25715; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:44:09 -0500 Received: from pdgsi.com (sugind.tusco.net [209.57.212.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25706 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:44:06 -0500 Received: from 1240 [209.57.212.6] by pdgsi.com [209.57.225.236] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.T) for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:40:58 -0400 From: "Dave Miller" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] String to Number Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:44:44 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Max, Multiplying by 1 did the trick. Thanks, Dave Miller. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Max Wyss > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 4:04 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: Dave Miller > Subject: Re: [PDF] String to Number > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Dave, > > this is absolutely correct behaviour, as there is no value property > of your Width variable, the way you have defined it. The variable, > the way you have defined it, IS the value. Also, you might have > another look at the replace() function. I am not sure, if it does > give the desired results. > > In order to convert a value from a string to a number, you might > either try to multiply it with 1, or have a look at AForm.js in the > JavaScripts folder in the AcroForm folder in the Plug-ins folder of > your Acrobat installation. There is a precooked function which can > help you convert your string to a number. > > Hope, this can help. > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering > Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch > http://www.prodok.ch > > > > [ Building Bridges for Information ] > > > ______________________ > > > > > > >Here is the code: (Thanks to Donald Story) > >var str = "36 x 80"; > >var Width = str.replace(" x.*",""); > >// Width value is 36 > > > >var a = this.getField("field1"); > >a.value = (Width.value + 1); > > > >I want field1 to display a value of 37 (36 + 1). With the above code the > >field1 value is "undefined1". Is it because I need to change the Width > >variable to a number instead of a string? How? > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Sep-2000 22:00:51-GMT,2704;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13276 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:00:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31975; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:51:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:45:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31474; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:45:23 -0500 Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz (smtp4.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31457 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:45:13 -0500 Received: from p266 (p386-apx1.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.193.132]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id JAA08208 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:45:09 +1200 Message-ID: <001b01c021ba$3a0c6b60$84c1adcb@p266> From: "Andrew Smith" To: References: <20000918201542.SOHD2687.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Academic version of Acrobat Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:48:47 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks.... I thought that should be the case Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Academic version of Acrobat > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Does anyone know if there is any difference in the > > Academic version of Acrobat (Version 4)? > > The software's not different, just the price. > > George > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 0:17:25-GMT,2697;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16724 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:17:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06931; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:07:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:01:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06623; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:01:17 -0500 Received: from 38.164.135.2 ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA06619 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:01:16 -0500 Received: from [207.29.207.152] ([167.89.255.57] ) by 38.164.135.2 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 94371 via TCP with SMTP; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:00:39 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:40:11 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] A PDF Mark for no-printing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 1:50 PM -0400 9/18/00, Bob Roach wrote: >Is there such a thing as PDF Mark code that would disable printing >from Acrobat for the page it was inserted on? > >If not, is there any way to disable printing for selected pages in a >PDF document? > There is no standard way in Acrobat to disable printing SELECTED pages - it's either all or nothing. There are some plug-ins (FileOpen and PageVault, for example) that enable such features, but it requires that you users have the plug-ins installed. 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I have a trouble with one customer that sended me PDF`s obtained from InDesign 1.5 Windows. Of course, these PDF`s was impossible to output on film. Contacted by me, the customer printed to Distiller 4 and sended to me the result PDF`s. These PDF`s pass without problems PDF Inspektor and PitStop preflight checks, but was impossible to output on film and no error messages was show on RIP window. On screen, files was perfect, images CMYK, embeeded fonts, etc. But these PDF`s had on Acrobat`s fonts data window (in a Mac): Webdings TrueType(CID) Codif. Identity-H Helvetica-Oblique CID Type 0 Codif. Identity-H Each time that "Identity-H" appears on this font data windows of Acrobat, the PDF fails to RIP. Somebody knows something about this kind of trouble? Thank you very much in advance to all of you, even if no answer. Jose Enrique Ochoa. Fotomecanica Ochoa. Julian Camarillo, 26. 28037 Madrid. SPAIN. 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I have a trouble with one customer that sended me PDF`s obtained from InDesign 1.5 Windows. Of course, these PDF`s was impossible to output on film. Contacted by me, the customer printed to Distiller 4 and sended to me the result PDF`s. These PDF`s pass without problems PDF Inspektor and PitStop preflight checks, but was impossible to output on film and no error messages was show on RIP window. On screen, files was perfect, images CMYK, embeeded fonts, etc. But these PDF`s had on Acrobat`s fonts data window (in a Mac): Webdings TrueType(CID) Codif. Identity-H Helvetica-Oblique CID Type 0 Codif. Identity-H Each time that "Identity-H" appears on this font data windows of Acrobat, the PDF fails to RIP. Somebody knows something about this kind of trouble? Thank you very much in advance to all of you, even if no answer. Jose Enrique Ochoa. Fotomecanica Ochoa. Julian Camarillo, 26. 28037 Madrid. SPAIN. Tel.: 34.91.3272118 Fax: 34.91.3750223 e-mail:ochoa@skios.es Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 8:02:46-GMT,3081;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA25811 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:02:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA30552; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:53:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:48:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA30240; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:48:30 -0500 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA30236 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:48:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 3838 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2000 07:48:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cat6) ([213.224.10.105]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Sep 2000 07:48:28 -0000 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Troubles with InDesign PDF`s Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:46:34 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c0220d$bc83d710$0400a8c0@cat6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <39C711E8.6B4921FA@skios.es> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Jose, > Webdings TrueType(CID) Codif. Identity-H > Helvetica-Oblique CID Type 0 Codif. Identity-H If you change your preflight profile in PitStop to raise an error if the font type is "Composite" you will catch this type of problem. The problem is caused by the fact that InDesign uses double-byte fonts (also called Composite or CID fonts) even when this is not strictly necessary. You can't correct this in PitStop (nor with any other tool I know of) but you can have PitStop warn you for this. Kind regards, David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com Director of Software Development ------------------------------------------ Chaos reigns within. Reflect. Repent. Reboot. Order shall return. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 9:31:03-GMT,2604;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27435 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 03:31:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02577; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:21:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:15:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02214; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:15:25 -0500 Received: from thefreeinternet.co.uk (hermes-3.bizonline.net [212.95.128.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA02189 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:15:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 27486 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2000 09:15:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 5120) (213.108.39.232) by hermes-3.bizonline.net with SMTP; 19 Sep 2000 09:15:06 -0000 Message-ID: <00de01c0221a$67de7460$e8276cd5@5120> From: "Andy Kemp" To: References: <200009182044.PAA25741@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: Font Width Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:07:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi Susan! Thanks for the reply - I was beginning to think I was sending my SOS into the ether ... > Have you tried using the Character tab menu > that's available in the Text Attributes window > for the Touch-Up tool? The upper left option > allows you to adjust font width. Yes, I have tried this. The option is not greyed out, but after I change the figure from 80 to 100, I can't find a way of making the change "stick". As soon as I move focus the value in the box changes back to 80% ... Rather bizarre :-) Or am I missing something obvious?? Cheers! Andy Kemp www.crossandcockade.com Society of WW1 Aero Historians Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 9:40:29-GMT,3415;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27616 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 03:40:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03496; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:34:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:29:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03119; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:28:59 -0500 Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03115 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:28:58 -0500 Received: from [161.73.113.200] (tb857836.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.113.200]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11737 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:29:19 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: p0071549@csmail.brookes.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200009182044.PAA25741@everglades.binc.net> References: <200009182044.PAA25741@everglades.binc.net> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:39:01 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Chris Jennings Subject: [PDF] Go back Doc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dear all I have posted this problem before, but I didn't ever resolve. Maybe there are a few more people out there with this experience. It's the problem with 'go back doc'. I want to use this alot, and I tend to use it by invoking the menu command from a button or link. The trouble is that after using it to naviagte around a set of PDF documents a few times I get crashes out of Acrobat. This happens on both MAC and PC. Adobe support suggested a memory problem but this is impossible to control. Even on my own MAC, I have experimented with allocating huge amounts of memory to Acrobat Reader and still it happens. It just seems that maybe there is something wrong with the code for keeping a history list of where the users have been. One difficulty with Acrobat is that if you use the 'go back' instead of 'go back doc', you are usually taken right back through ALL the views navigated, including articles and zoom-ins. I need a way to go back to the calling PDF document without this annoying unpredictable crash. Any suggestions would be welcome. -- <>--------------------------------------------------------<> | Chris Jennings | | Senior Lecturer in Electronic Media at: | | Oxford Brookes University in the UK | | voice (44) 1865 484972 | | E-Mail cjjennings@brookes.ac.uk | <>--------------------------------------------------------<> Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 9:50:47-GMT,4570;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27805 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 03:50:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04291; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:43:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:38:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03849; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:38:08 -0500 Received: from mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (mail2.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.41]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03842 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:38:07 -0500 Received: from [24.43.209.211] by mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000919093801.IQDE22521.mail2.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.43.209.211]> for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:38:01 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 05:38:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] A PDF Mark for no-printing? From: Jason Belec To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Actually another approach exists with Javascript and a Form field or two. You can then turn the page on or off, for printing purposes. Various things like time deactivation, etc., are then possible. This approach takes a little more setup though, and renders the final document un-editable by 80-90% of the viewers, while retaining full search capability. Contact me off list, if it's what you are looking for. -- Jason Belec :)~ pdfworkflows@home.com Digital Workflows Specialist, (613) 824-2243 EST especially PDF "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training PDF Course Instructor 3D Course Instructor Document Computing Institute 3CD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Articles of interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web site of interest: http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf > From: Leonard Rosenthol > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:40:11 -0400 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] A PDF Mark for no-printing? > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > At 1:50 PM -0400 9/18/00, Bob Roach wrote: >> Is there such a thing as PDF Mark code that would disable printing >> from Acrobat for the page it was inserted on? >> >> If not, is there any way to disable printing for selected pages in a >> PDF document? >> > There is no standard way in Acrobat to disable printing > SELECTED pages - it's either all or nothing. > > There are some plug-ins (FileOpen and PageVault, for example) > that enable such features, but it requires that you users have the > plug-ins installed. > > > Leonard > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Leonard Rosenthol > Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) > Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) > > PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 > > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 10:09:20-GMT,2505;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28151 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:09:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05402; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:59:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:52:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05060; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:52:58 -0500 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05053 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:52:56 -0500 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02237 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:53:10 +0100 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Font Width Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:52:54 -0000 Message-ID: <002601c02227$c4098100$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00de01c0221a$67de7460$e8276cd5@5120> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > > Have you tried using the Character tab menu > > that's available in the Text Attributes window > > for the Touch-Up tool? The upper left option > > allows you to adjust font width. > > Yes, I have tried this. The option is not greyed out, but > after I change the figure from 80 to 100, I can't find a way > of making the change "stick". As soon as I move focus the > value in the box changes back to 80% ... One thing to check is: did you select the text before changing the value? I always forget first time. Aandi Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 12:01:41-GMT,4856;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00223 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:01:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11644; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:53:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:45:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11227; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:45:50 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11217 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:45:46 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16251; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:45:43 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200009182044.PAA25741@everglades.binc.net> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:42:13 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Go back Doc Cc: Chris Jennings Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Chris, It is actually a memory problem, but not an application memory probem, but a system problem. I assume that your documents have been mounted together from other PDF documents, and/or you are using quite a big bunch of fonts. It is actually a problem with fonts causing the systems to crash. Imagine you have twenty documents which have been composed of various other documents, all having their fonts embedded _and subsetted_, you might end up with quite a number of instances of the same font. And with every other document you open, you add more. These fonts reside in the system memory area and remain there, at least as long as the document is open ... and as there are always memory leaks, they will remain there even after that. So, what you can do is to make sure that you have only _one_ instance of your fonts embedded in every document. And it would be useful to embed the complete font (no subsetting). With existing documents, you can try to use a global replace with PitStop. Also, as you mention Buttons to navigate. Make sure that you put the "jump to the next document" action into the _Mouse UP_ action. Never ever, unless you are told so, put any navigational action into a Mouse Down action!! Another approach you might use is to control the opening behaviour of your documents. When you have a proper hierarchical structure of your documents, you might open the document in a new window when you change hierarchy level, or even always. When you then want to go back to the document you came from, simply close the window. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >I have posted this problem before, but I didn't ever resolve. Maybe >there are a few more people out there with this experience. > >It's the problem with 'go back doc'. > >I want to use this alot, and I tend to use it by invoking the menu >command from a button or link. The trouble is that after using it to >naviagte around a set of PDF documents a few times I get crashes out >of Acrobat. This happens on both MAC and PC. Adobe support suggested >a memory problem but this is impossible to control. Even on my own >MAC, I have experimented with allocating huge amounts of memory to >Acrobat Reader and still it happens. > >It just seems that maybe there is something wrong with the code for >keeping a history list of where the users have been. > >One difficulty with Acrobat is that if you use the 'go back' instead >of 'go back doc', you are usually taken right back through ALL the >views navigated, including articles and zoom-ins. I need a way to go >back to the calling PDF document without this annoying unpredictable >crash. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 13:54:52-GMT,3825;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02675 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 07:54:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18314; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:41:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:35:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17714; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:35:11 -0500 Received: from 38.164.135.2 ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17702 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:35:08 -0500 Received: from [207.29.207.152] ([207.29.207.230] ) by 38.164.135.2 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 95613 via TCP with SMTP; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:34:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200009182044.PAA25741@everglades.binc.net> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:06:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Go back Doc Cc: Chris Jennings Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ [As much as I hate to do this, I am going to disagree with Max ;] At 1:42 PM +0200 9/19/00, Max Wyss wrote: >It is actually a memory problem, but not an application memory >probem, but a system problem. > >I assume that your documents have been mounted together from other >PDF documents, and/or you are using quite a big bunch of fonts. > >It is actually a problem with fonts causing the systems to crash. >Imagine you have twenty documents which have been composed of >various other documents, all having their fonts embedded _and >subsetted_, you might end up with quite a number of instances of the >same font. And with every other document you open, you add more. >These fonts reside in the system memory area and remain there, at >least as long as the document is open ... and as there are always >memory leaks, they will remain there even after that. Acrobat does NOT use the native OS's font management services to work with fonts - it has it's own font (text) subsystem as part of the core graphics architecture used by all Adobe products. Also, this technology does some pretty intelligent caching so that there shouldn't be multiple copies of the same font in memory unless absolutely necessary. Most likely, the REAL problem is simply the fact that the Adobe PDFLibrary LEAKS MEMORY like a sieve. This is a well known, documented, fact of life and it's one reason why the PDFL isn't viable for use on a server - unless you want to reboot your server daily :(. Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 14:09:42-GMT,3855;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03050 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:09:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19777; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:57:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:52:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19307; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:52:20 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19303 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:52:18 -0500 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA14585 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00827; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.59.136]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G14ZUT00.5N3 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:52:05 -0700 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS_BASE) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000919064632.00c1f8e0@mail-303.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:51:47 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: RE: [PDF] Troubles with InDesign PDF`s In-Reply-To: <000601c0220d$bc83d710$0400a8c0@cat6> References: <39C711E8.6B4921FA@skios.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ The "problem" is not InDesign. Not only does InDesign output CID-encoded fonts, but new versions of the PostScript drivers likewise output such fonts in some circumstances. As David indicated, the CID-encoded fonts are for support of large character sets. Such encoding was once totally the province of Asian applications' use of PostScript. However, reasonable implementation of Unicode and OpenType fonts necessitates extending use of such fonts and encoding to "western" languages as well. Most RIP manufacturers do have updates/patches to fix the problems of their RIPs being incompatible with the Adobe PostScript language specification. After applying such updates, this issue should no longer be a problem. - Dov At 9/19/00 12:46 AM, David van Driessche wrote: >Jose, > >> Webdings TrueType(CID) Codif. Identity-H >> Helvetica-Oblique CID Type 0 Codif. Identity-H > >If you change your preflight profile in PitStop to raise an error if the >font type is "Composite" you will catch this type of problem. > >The problem is caused by the fact that InDesign uses double-byte fonts (also >called Composite or CID fonts) even when this is not strictly necessary. > >You can't correct this in PitStop (nor with any other tool I know of) but >you can have PitStop warn you for this. > >Kind regards, >David. 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This will open (if not already open) Photoshop 5.0+. You can edit the image and save, and the image will be automatically updated in Acrobat. The same situation can be accomplished on vector elements using Illustrator 7.0+. Another way would be to Export the page with the graphic to an EPS file, then manipulate using your favorite imaging/illustration software (respectfully). Norman J. Leonard Technical Solutions Developer Seven Worldwide, Inc. 233 N. Michigan Avenue Chicago, IL 60601-5516 Tel: 312-616-8326 nleonard@sevenww.com Tim Pritchard wrote: > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com >__________________________________________________________________ > >Hullo... > >I'm new to this list, so I apologize in advance if this has been covered >prior to >this post... > >I'm trying to extract graphics (pictures or charts) from exiting pdf >files...is there >a quick-and-dirty way to do this using either Acrobat or another >third-party >product? I've been enlarging the files to 300% of their original size in >Reader >and then taking a screenshot, but the results are predictably mediocre... > >Thanks...and feel free to respond to me privately if this topic is old >news... > >Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com >------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > >From owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Fri Sep 15 07:19:44 2000 >Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from localhost > (router,QMProSrv V2.7); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:19:44 -0500 >Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from everglades.binc.net > (208.155.48.8::mail daemon; unverified,QMProSrv V2.7); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 >07:19:44 -0500 >Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28307; > Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:19:26 -0500 >Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 >07:14:37 -0500 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28022; > Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:14:36 -0500 >Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.n et >[207.217.121.50]) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28018 > for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:14:35 -0500 >Received: from [63.22.117.166] (1Cust166.tnt6.bos2.da.uu.net [63.22.117.166]) > by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA17433 > for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 05:14:33 -0700 (PDT) >Message-Id: <200009151214.FAA17433@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> >Subject: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files >Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:19:49 -0500 >x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 >From: Tim Pritchard >To: >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html >X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html >X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 14:46:18-GMT,3672;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03996 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:46:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23321; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:34:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:28:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22807; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:28:43 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22800 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:28:41 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06578; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:28:35 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200009182044.PAA25741@everglades.binc.net> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:28:25 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Go back Doc Cc: Leonard Rosenthol Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Leonard, it is not really a disagreement. It is more a description from another view, and you do have way more knowledge about the innards of Acrobat and its interaction with the OS than I do... Does that internal caching system mean that it actually should be able to properly handle various subsetted instances of the same font, even if it is not available on the local system, and the encoding might differ? I do accept the PDFLibrary memory leak issue. It may be the reason for the symptom ... memory leak in the system area (and, of course, also in the application area). I insist on the system memory issue because I have found out some time ago that increasing the application memory (on Mac) does make things even worse. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ > Acrobat does NOT use the native OS's font management services >to work with fonts - it has it's own font (text) subsystem as part >of the core graphics architecture used by all Adobe products. >Also, this technology does some pretty intelligent caching so that >there shouldn't be multiple copies of the same font in memory unless >absolutely necessary. > > Most likely, the REAL problem is simply the fact that the >Adobe PDFLibrary LEAKS MEMORY like a sieve. This is a well known, >documented, fact of life and it's one reason why the PDFL isn't >viable for use on a server - unless you want to reboot your server >daily :(. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 15:32:06-GMT,3460;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05438 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:32:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25954; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:09:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:03:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25460; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:03:43 -0500 Received: from 38.164.135.2 ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA25441 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:03:41 -0500 Received: from [207.29.207.152] ([207.29.206.22] ) by 38.164.135.2 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 96027 via TCP with SMTP; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:04:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200009182044.PAA25741@everglades.binc.net> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:54:48 -0400 To: Max Wyss , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Go back Doc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 4:28 PM +0200 9/19/00, Max Wyss wrote: >Does that internal caching system mean that it actually should be >able to properly handle various subsetted instances of the same >font, even if it is not available on the local system, and the >encoding might differ? It's a good question, and I don't know for sure. I've never seen the internals of how Acrobat interacts with the type library, so I'm not sure how it works with the subsetted fonts. >I do accept the PDFLibrary memory leak issue. It may be the reason >for the symptom ... memory leak in the system area (and, of course, >also in the application area). I insist on the system memory issue >because I have found out some time ago that increasing the >application memory (on Mac) does make things even worse. > It's a different issue on the Mac, since Acrobat (as do many other applications) will fall back to system (temporary) memory when they can't get enough from their own local heaps. Windows don't have that problem (nor does the new Mac OS X), but Windows has other "resource" issues. Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 16:16:27-GMT,2405;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06835 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:16:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29727; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:59:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:53:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29363; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:53:11 -0500 Received: from mail.systech.com (mail.systech.com [209.75.216.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29359 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:53:10 -0500 Received: by mail.systech.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:46:38 -0700 Message-ID: <80B97DE95AEED311BA580050047FE98414C89E@mail.systech.com> From: Janet Valade To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:46:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Using the Touchup Object tool, hold down the Ctrl (Windows) or Option > (Macintosh) and double click on an image. This will open (if not already > open) Photoshop 5.0+. You can edit the image and save, and the image will > be > automatically updated in Acrobat. The same situation can be accomplished > on > vector elements using Illustrator 7.0+. > I also need to edit or extract graphics. I do not see a Touchup Object tool anywhere. The PDF help file shows it as a black arrow. I do not have such an icon. There is an item, Touchup, in the Tools menu, but it only shows text functions. Why do I not see the Touchup Object icon? Janet Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 16:38:51-GMT,2527;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07502 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:38:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32152; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:31:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:25:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31649; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:25:25 -0500 Received: from niagarac.on.ca (mail.niagara-college.com [192.197.62.37]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA31634 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:25:20 -0500 Received: from NCGWDOMAIN1-Message_Server by niagarac.on.ca with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:12:03 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:06:43 -0400 From: "Bob Roach" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Erratic character pileup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA31641 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This one stumps me and what's worse, it's totally intermittent. Occassionally I will be distilling a file (and it doesn't matter whether it's through Distiller 3 or 4) and I will wind up with a PDF where each page's text characters will all overlap on the exact same co-ordinate. Everything else (images, etc.) will come through fine and there's not a peep of an error from Distiller. It's happened with PageMaker 6.52 and CorelDraw but mostly with PageMaker. Like I said, one day it will go fine, but the next it could 'pileup'. I've tried different postscript drivers to generate the ps file with the same erratic results. Does anyone have a clue to the source of this? Many thanks. -BR Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 16:39:37-GMT,2569;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07533 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:39:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32227; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:32:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:27:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31738; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:27:07 -0500 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31734 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:27:05 -0500 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA02767 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:27:27 +0100 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:27:00 -0000 Message-ID: <003101c0225e$d2548ac0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <80B97DE95AEED311BA580050047FE98414C89E@mail.systech.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I also need to edit or extract graphics. I do not see a Touchup > Object tool anywhere. The PDF help file shows it as a black > arrow. I do not > have such an icon. There is an item, Touchup, in the Tools > menu, but it only > shows text functions. Why do I not see the Touchup Object icon? Perhaps you have not learned to fold out tool icons - in which case more than half of Acrobat's functions are lost to you. Click and hold your mouse on the text touch up tool, and it should appear. Many tools have extensive fold outs. Aandi Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 17:02:48-GMT,3505;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08324 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:02:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01576; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:56:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:50:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01105; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:50:36 -0500 Received: from comcom.com (netsrv03.comcom.com [207.67.13.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01096 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:50:32 -0500 Received: from mailbox.comcom.com ([207.67.13.213]) by comcom.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10633 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:51:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:55:17 -0500 Message-ID: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D961F@mailbox> From: "Leone-Thiel, Pat" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Erratic character pileup Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:55:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Mr. Roach: I've had many font issues, from characters overlapping to MIA. I've found this only happens when I choose Printer PPDs that do not make Postscript code that the Distiller can interpret correctly. (Postscript emulations, like most HP printers, and a QMS in my case.) (Correct me if I'm wrong please, but I believe you can have only 1 Postscript 'Driver' on a Windows box at any one time- assuming Win 9X or NT4X here.) Try sending the files to the Acrobat Distiller Printer on your menu. (This uses the Adobe Postscript driver you have installed -hopefully a newer version ala Adobe.com- in conjunction with the Acrobat Distiller PPD-4.0x) Hope this helps. Pat Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. (www.comcom.com) -----Original Message----- From: Bob Roach [mailto:broach@niagarac.on.ca] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 9:07 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Erratic character pileup Occassionally I will be distilling a file (and it doesn't matter whether it's through Distiller 3 or 4) and I will wind up with a PDF where each page's text characters will all overlap on the exact same co-ordinate. Everything else (images, etc.) will come through fine and there's not a peep of an error from Distiller. It's happened with PageMaker 6.52 and CorelDraw but mostly with PageMaker. Like I said, one day it will go fine, but the next it could 'pileup'. I've tried different postscript drivers to generate the ps file with the same erratic results. Does anyone have a clue to the source of this? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 17:15:12-GMT,2615;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08737 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:15:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00970; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:48:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:43:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00491; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:43:08 -0500 Received: from woozle.isode.com (woozle.isode.com [193.133.227.19]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00487 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:43:07 -0500 Received: from bagheera.isode.com by woozle.isode.com (local) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:43:02 +0100 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:43:01 +0100 From: Chris Ridd To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Message-ID: <62650000.969381781@bagheera.isode.com> In-Reply-To: <003101c0225e$d2548ac0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.5a5 (Linux/x86 Demo) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Aandi Inston wrote: >> I also need to edit or extract graphics. I do not see a Touchup >> Object tool anywhere. The PDF help file shows it as a black >> arrow. I do not >> have such an icon. There is an item, Touchup, in the Tools >> menu, but it only >> shows text functions. Why do I not see the Touchup Object icon? > > Perhaps you have not learned to fold out tool icons - in which case > more than half of Acrobat's functions are lost to you. > > Click and hold your mouse on the text touch up tool, and it should > appear. Many tools have extensive fold outs. > > Aandi It is one of the less successful bits of Acrobat's GUI, at least judging by the number of posts to the various lists about it... Cheers, Chris Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 17:18:15-GMT,3507;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08879 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:18:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01740; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:57:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:52:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01291; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:52:05 -0500 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01256 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:52:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 29567 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2000 16:52:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jacquesdb) ([213.224.10.105]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Sep 2000 16:52:02 -0000 From: "Jacques De Bruyne" To: , Subject: [PDF] Enfocus PowerUp PDF & WebPerfect PDF (Error -2804) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:54:51 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c01dbe$d94344b0$9111e0d5@dellxpsr450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com X-Authentication-Warning: server.infomania.com: major set sender to owner-pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com using -f In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.1.20000913141642.01c98eb0@pop.recorder.ca> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by server.infomania.com id HAA08403 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA01275 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ The error message "There was an error while loading the plug-in 'WebPerfect PDF'. There was a Macintosh system error (-2804)." is related to the ColorSync version on your system. Please check if ColorSync version 2.5.1 or later is installed and enabled on your system. More information about ColorSync can be obtainded on http://www.apple.com/colorsync/ To search for ColorSync updates, go to http://asu.info.apple.com/ and search for ColorSync. Kind regards, =========================================== Jacques De Bruyne, Software support manager Enfocus Software NV Kleindokkaai 3-5, B-9000 Gent, Belgium Voice: +32 9 269 16 90 Fax: +32 9 269 16 91 Email: support@enfocus.com Web: www.enfocus.com Please include all correspondence regarding support questions. ============================================================== Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 17:22:16-GMT,2597;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09006 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:22:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03048; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:07:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:02:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02425; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:02:23 -0500 Received: from smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu (smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu [152.2.1.139]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02419 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:02:19 -0500 Received: from [152.2.235.40] (iapetus.fpg.unc.edu [152.2.235.40]) by smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA24258 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009191702.NAA24258@smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:01:34 -0400 From: jbrady@email.unc.edu (Michael Brady) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Erratic character pileup X-Mailer: Siren Mail for Macintosh 4.0.2 X-Sender: jbrady@imap.unc.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Bob, > Like I said, one day it will go fine, but the next it could 'pileup'. I've tried > different postscript drivers to generate the ps file with the same erratic results. > Does anyone have a clue to the source of this? I've run into this once or twice, but it was a while ago. I think it was mostly font-related, not driver or Acrobat related. But as Dennis Miller says, I could be wrong! :-) If I remember correctly, I used the text touchup tool to reset the type. I also seem to remember some caveats about using Adobe's PDF Writer virtual printer as your print driver. ------------------- Michael Brady 16 Pedestal Rock Lane Durham, NC 27712 Voice 919 471 9554 fax 919 962 2707 jbrady@email.unc.edu http://www.unc.edu/~jbrady/index.html Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 17:23:36-GMT,2638;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09068 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:23:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04079; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:16:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:11:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03416; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:11:19 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03412 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:11:17 -0500 From: geojohn@att.net Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.58]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000919171107.NPQA8992.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:11:07 +0000 Received: from [208.7.52.22] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:11:03 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Font Width Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:11:03 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: geojohn@att.net Message-Id: <20000919171107.NPQA8992.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Thanks for the reply - I was beginning to think I was > sending my SOS into the ether ... > > > Have you tried using the Character tab menu > > that's available in the Text Attributes window > > for the Touch-Up tool? The upper left option > > allows you to adjust font width. > > Yes, I have tried this. The option is not greyed out, > but after I change the figure from 80 to 100, I can't > find a way of making the change "stick". As soon as I > move focus the value in the box changes back to 80% ... > > Rather bizarre :-) > > Or am I missing something obvious?? You have to hit the ENTER key after typing a new value. George Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 17:24:27-GMT,2782;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09100 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:24:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02494; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:03:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:57:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01768; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:57:49 -0500 Received: from comcom.com (netsrv03.comcom.com [207.67.13.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01764 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:57:47 -0500 Received: from mailbox.comcom.com ([207.67.13.213]) by comcom.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10980 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:58:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:02:33 -0500 Message-ID: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D9620@mailbox> From: "Leone-Thiel, Pat" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:02:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Agree 100%. Unfortunately, other softwares, like Photoshop have followed suit, or maybe they led the way? The tiny little black diamonds on the icons of the toolbars are overlooked more than not I'm afraid judging by the number of internal calls taken here to help users find the tools mentioned in Help files. Points to more than just a training issue if they can't find them even after using Help. Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. (www.comcom.com) -----Original Message----- From: Chris Ridd [mailto:chris.ridd@messagingdirect.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 11:43 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files It is one of the less successful bits of Acrobat's GUI, at least judging by the number of posts to the various lists about it... Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 17:42:09-GMT,3289;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09667 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:42:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05390; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:31:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:25:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04998; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:25:43 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04969 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:25:30 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05662; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:25:27 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D9620@mailbox> References: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D9620@mailbox> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:25:20 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Cc: "Leone-Thiel, Pat" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA04989 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Pat, one thing must be made clear here. Photoshop and Illustrator did have this type of submenu icon long before Acrobat had it. The complaints about not finding the object touchup tool anymore come from people with a microsoft background (they need hundreds of toolbars cluttering up the real estate). In other words, Acrobat simply got the user interface elements all other design products from Adobe have. The problem is that the new users never actually worked with design tools, and could not figure things out. Just my Zweiräppler. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >Agree 100%. >Unfortunately, other softwares, like Photoshop have followed suit, or maybe >they led the way? >The tiny little black diamonds on the icons of the toolbars are overlooked >more than not I'm afraid judging by the number of internal calls taken here >to help users find the tools mentioned in Help files. >Points to more than just a training issue if they can't find them even after >using Help. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 18:02:01-GMT,3262;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10237 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:02:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06887; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:52:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:46:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06462; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:46:18 -0500 Received: from smtp.connectnet.com (smtp.connectnet.com [207.110.0.13]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06458 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:46:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200009191746.MAA06458@everglades.binc.net> Received: (qmail 27157 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2000 17:46:15 -0000 Received: from 207-110-36-212.dsl.connectnet.net (HELO ?192.168.0.6?) (207.110.36.212) by smtp.connectnet.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2000 17:46:15 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:47:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Erratic character pileup From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Bob, I've seen this before and tracked it down to a corrupt screen font on the Mac. All font and character metric information is stored in the screen font suitcase. Since the suitcase was hammered, the text printed with very strange spacing. You might have a corrupt .pfm (metrics file) or .pfb (printer font) file. Reinstall the problematic fonts and see if that cures your problem. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ---------- >From: "Bob Roach" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Erratic character pileup >Date: Tue, Sep 19, 2000, 7:06 AM > > Occassionally I will be distilling a file (and it doesn't matter whether > it's through Distiller 3 or 4) and I will wind up with a PDF where each > page's text characters will all overlap on the exact same co-ordinate. > Everything else (images, etc.) will come through fine and there's not a > peep of an error from Distiller. It's happened with PageMaker 6.52 and > CorelDraw but mostly with PageMaker. Like I said, one day it will go fine, > but the next it could 'pileup'. I've tried different postscript drivers to > generate the ps file with the same erratic results. Does anyone have a clue > to the source of this? > > Many thanks. > > -BR Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 18:17:44-GMT,3057;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10754 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:17:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08487; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:10:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:04:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07943; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:04:40 -0500 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA07939 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:04:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 21611 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2000 18:04:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dellxpsr450) ([213.224.16.109]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Sep 2000 18:04:38 -0000 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:04:59 +0200 Message-ID: <000b01c02264$2082f060$6d10e0d5@dellxpsr450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Max, > The problem is that the new users never actually worked with design > tools, and could not figure things out. I don't agree with your vision here. Why would the software get it right and the users get it wrong? I thought software needed to be designed in such a way that it was user-friendly? I agree with your analysis, most problems probably occur because these are Office users, not design-tool-savy users. But maybe the solution is a more flexible user interface, and not re-education of the users? David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com Director of Software Development ---------------------------------- Out of memory. We wish to hold the whole sky, But we never will. -------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 18:46:07-GMT,5795;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11515 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:46:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10693; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:36:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:31:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10250; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:31:01 -0500 Received: from comcom.com (netsrv03.comcom.com [207.67.13.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10237 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:30:59 -0500 Received: from mailbox.comcom.com ([207.67.13.213]) by comcom.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13405 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:31:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:35:44 -0500 Message-ID: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D9621@mailbox> From: "Leone-Thiel, Pat" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Hidden Tools Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:35:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA10239 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello Max: Thank you for the clarification of icon design and history. I can appreciate the GUI design engineers' attempt to keep the workspace uncluttered. I have only CAD and DTP backgrounds and was a UNIX Sys Admin in a previous life. For 7 years I've worked on MAC, SUN, and Windows machines. Not all of us are lucky enough to have a 'designer's' background and exposure to those other Adobe tools. I would guess that a large percentage of Acrobat users today would fit into the non-designer category. Which is what Adobe wanted (I think). To flood the market with Reader, to create a 'defacto standard', and thus, you have the increased sales of the full Acrobat (and more expensive Adobe PDF toolsets) as we all try to get upstream in the process and get/keep control of the information, or repurpose it. Also, most PC users would admit to a case of 'monitor-envy' when it comes to UNIX or MAC boxes and typically, being that we're not designers, PC users are looking at a 15-17" screen that has a res setting not too condusive to seeing the little arrowhead at all. Really though, awhile ago I had to open the Acrobat Guide, [I happen to attach it's index (index.pdx in Adobe/Acrobat/Help/Enu)] and find the explanation for 'tools' on page 31, to see one sentence that explained the tool location to me. I was grateful the information was there. Using commands and tools The command bar contains buttons for many of the most commonly used commands in Acrobat. The document pane menu contains a smaller group of commands for setting General preferences and for getting information on the current document. The tool bar contains tools for scrolling and zooming; cropping pages; changing the appearance of text; adding graphics, annotations, and signatures; and making other changes to the current PDF document. A small triangle at the lower right of a tool indicates the presence of hidden tools. So, we are trainable. (Now, onto a new soapbox...) And I apologize, I don't remember more than a few words of German from evening language classes taken in a different life, so by context, I'll deduce you're saying 'in my opinion' or 'my 2 cents worth'? Thanks for watching this list. I've appreciated information you've offered many time in the past. Have a great day. Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. Pat, one thing must be made clear here. Photoshop and Illustrator did have this type of submenu icon long before Acrobat had it. The complaints about not finding the object touchup tool anymore come from people with a microsoft background (they need hundreds of toolbars cluttering up the real estate). In other words, Acrobat simply got the user interface elements all other design products from Adobe have. The problem is that the new users never actually worked with design tools, and could not figure things out. Just my Zweiräppler. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >Agree 100%. >Unfortunately, other softwares, like Photoshop have followed suit, or maybe >they led the way? >The tiny little black diamonds on the icons of the toolbars are overlooked >more than not I'm afraid judging by the number of internal calls taken here >to help users find the tools mentioned in Help files. >Points to more than just a training issue if they can't find them even after >using Help. 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Since by definition, a caveat is a warning, I'd agree wholeheartedly. I think Aandi and other experts we're privileged to have following this list have many reasons not to use the PDFWriter. I would not recommend it unless the file is simple text. Remarkably though, some font display 'problems' will disappear if you use the 'writer'. I think it's because it's not really making 'fonts', just a display. Anything complex should be made with Acrobat Distiller. I used the text touchup tool to reset the type. I believe that the Text touchup will work if you've embedded the font or at least those characters you're editting. Have a good day. Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 19:13:45-GMT,3815;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12265 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:13:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13195; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:07:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:01:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12752; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:01:01 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12748 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:00:56 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25146; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:00:51 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000b01c02264$2082f060$6d10e0d5@dellxpsr450> References: <000b01c02264$2082f060$6d10e0d5@dellxpsr450> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:54:48 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Cc: "David van Driessche" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ David, well, I guess that I may be in disagreement with many people. A flexible customizable user interface is definitely a good idea. However, depending on the actual implementation, it may turn into a major support nightmare, when you can't describe anymore what you mean when you lead someone through a process by phone... Now, when it comes to toolbars etc. I really do not like the idea of dozens of toolbars stretched out. Particularly in Acrobat, where the vast majority of the documents viewed is in portrait format, horizontal toolbars take away even more of the rare vertical space. The result is that a page is either displayed _very_ small, or the user has to do a lot of scrolling. Is that what we want?? On the other hand, why is the software right having dozens of toolbars with minuscule icons? Just because it comes from a big company in Washington State? I know, user interface discussions can become very lengthy and unfruitful. It is somehow like art critique ... maybe even worse because the user interface one is used to is the best ... isn't it? Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ > > The problem is that the new users never actually worked with design >> tools, and could not figure things out. > >I don't agree with your vision here. Why would the software get it right and >the users get it wrong? I thought software needed to be designed in such a >way that it was user-friendly? > >I agree with your analysis, most problems probably occur because these are >Office users, not design-tool-savy users. But maybe the solution is a more >flexible user interface, and not re-education of the users? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 20:32:06-GMT,1985;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14374 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:32:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19250; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:17:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:11:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18660; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:11:02 -0500 Received: from mail.rapidgraphics.com (mail.rapidgraphics.com [207.88.162.20]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18644; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:10:58 -0500 Message-id: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:10:52 -0800 Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >It is one of the less successful bits of Acrobat's GUI, at least judging >by >the number of posts to the various lists about it... > >Cheers, > >Chris Actually, it's very well known to those in the publishing industry. It's used in almost all of Adobe's products, as well as in QuarkXPress 4.x. There is life beyond Microsoft Office! Best, Steve Werner Training Manager Rapid Graphics San Francisco, CA Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 20:33:26-GMT,6214;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14413 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:33:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20180; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:26:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:21:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19674; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:21:08 -0500 Received: from mail.systech.com ([209.75.216.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19665 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:21:06 -0500 Received: by mail.systech.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:14:34 -0700 Message-ID: <80B97DE95AEED311BA580050047FE98414C8A1@mail.systech.com> From: Janet Valade To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:14:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Well, as the moron whose question about finding a tool started this thread, I'll give my perspective. Now that I know the hidden icons are there, I think they are a great idea. They provide additional tools without loss of screen real estate. The problem isn't with the buttons per se; the problem is not knowing they are there. The icons down the side of Acrobat look like the hundreds of other icons I have seen in my life. My experience includes gazillions of icon presses. Consequently, I assumed I understood icons. It never occurred to me to look in the manual or help file to see how to use icons. I thought I knew. Nothing about these icons suggested to me that they were different than the icons I had used for many, many years. A little black dot in the lower corner of the icon is not sufficient. Something more is needed to indicate that these icons have additional functionality. Once I know there is something to look for, I can find it. But I need a hint. I think the whole thing could be solved using the tool tips. If the tool tip said "hold down mouse button for hidden icons", the problem would be solved. Perhaps this is too long for a tool tip. How about "Text touchup tool + hidden tools". It's not perfectly clear, but it gives me a hint that there is something that I need to look up. Info in the help file could also solve the problem. My style of working is to try to figure out how to do something myself by poking around in the GUI. If that fails, I will look in the help file for instructions on performing the specific task I am trying to accomplish. Thus, if the help file would just provide info about finding the tool whenever an instruction said to use the tool, I would have learned about the extra icons. It wouldn't take much. Just a hint that would lead me to look up the relevant instructions. E.g., "If you don't see the tool icon, it may be hidden in the tool bar. See page xx". Janet > -----Original Message----- > From: Max Wyss [SMTP:prodok@prodok.ch] > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 11:55 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: David van Driessche > Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > David, > > well, I guess that I may be in disagreement with many people. A > flexible customizable user interface is definitely a good idea. > However, depending on the actual implementation, it may turn into a > major support nightmare, when you can't describe anymore what you > mean when you lead someone through a process by phone... > > Now, when it comes to toolbars etc. I really do not like the idea of > dozens of toolbars stretched out. Particularly in Acrobat, where the > vast majority of the documents viewed is in portrait format, > horizontal toolbars take away even more of the rare vertical space. > The result is that a page is either displayed _very_ small, or the > user has to do a lot of scrolling. Is that what we want?? > > On the other hand, why is the software right having dozens of > toolbars with minuscule icons? Just because it comes from a big > company in Washington State? > > I know, user interface discussions can become very lengthy and > unfruitful. It is somehow like art critique ... maybe even worse > because the user interface one is used to is the best ... isn't it? > > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering > Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch > http://www.prodok.ch > > > > [ Building Bridges for Information ] > > > ______________________ > > > > > > > > The problem is that the new users never actually worked with design > >> tools, and could not figure things out. > > > >I don't agree with your vision here. Why would the software get it right > and > >the users get it wrong? I thought software needed to be designed in such > a > >way that it was user-friendly? > > > >I agree with your analysis, most problems probably occur because these > are > >Office users, not design-tool-savy users. But maybe the solution is a > more > >flexible user interface, and not re-education of the users? > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 20:44:55-GMT,3690;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14760 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:44:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21227; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:35:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:29:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20530; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:29:48 -0500 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA20524 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:29:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 2781 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2000 20:29:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dellxpsr450) ([213.224.16.109]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Sep 2000 20:29:46 -0000 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:30:08 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01c02278$67c4bb20$6d10e0d5@dellxpsr450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Steve, > Actually, it's very well known to those in the publishing industry. It's > used in almost all of Adobe's products, as well as in QuarkXPress 4.x. > There is life beyond Microsoft Office! Actually the point some of us are trying to make, is that there is life beyond the publishing industry... Do not make the mistake that the only users of Acrobat are those in the publishing world. I find it very good from Adobe that they are implementing a common interface in all of their products - it has taken them a long time and must have cost a substantial amount of effort (and money). But an interface should match your target audience - in that regard aligning the interface of Acrobat with that of their other (graphic arts related) products is at least questionable. I'm not saying Adobe should go away from their interface and abandon the publishing users... But they can maybe try to find a solution that is flexible enough for both worlds? And believe me, if our software could have the same ease of use and possibilities as the Microsoft Office family of products, I would be one very happy developer! David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com Director of Software Development ---------------------------------- Out of memory. We wish to hold the whole sky, But we never will. -------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 20:48:02-GMT,3315;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14823 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:48:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21954; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:42:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:36:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21424; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:36:58 -0500 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21420 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:36:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 7097 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2000 20:36:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dellxpsr450) ([213.224.16.109]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Sep 2000 20:36:54 -0000 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:37:12 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c02279$63ae04f0$6d10e0d5@dellxpsr450> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <80B97DE95AEED311BA580050047FE98414C8A1@mail.systech.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Max, > I know, user interface discussions can become very lengthy and > unfruitful. It is somehow like art critique ... maybe even worse > because the user interface one is used to is the best ... isn't it? It is. Which is exactly why I prefer the interface from Office over the interface from Acrobat. The Office interface allows me to set it up the way I want it... I admit to being an advanced software user, but I take the time to actually customize the toolbars in the software I frequently use, so that they are usable for me. Acrobat currently wastes much more real estate than Word for example. I don't use over 50% of the tools in Acrobat ever, but still I'm forced to have them always there... Well... as you say, worse than art critique! David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com Director of Software Development ---------------------------------- Out of memory. We wish to hold the whole sky, But we never will. -------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 21:23:13-GMT,2409;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15786 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:23:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24340; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:14:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:07:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23899; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:07:32 -0500 Received: from smtp.interlog.com (qmailr@smtp.interlog.com [154.11.89.190]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23892 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:07:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 6366 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2000 21:07:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?154.5.121.94?) (154.5.121.94) by smtp.interlog.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2000 21:07:22 -0000 X-Sender: mmccombs@pop.psi.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:26:50 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: [PDF] RE: extended Tool bar - 4.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Janet, You made me feel alot better. I had sifted through the PDF tutorial and another resource for tools mentioned but no reference to where they were or how to activate them. I only found the extended toolbar by accident, trying option keys etc. I had doubts that the black spec was an indication of an extended tool bar. The Adobe Illustrator product has a much more distinquished arrow, which prompts initiative. Now that I know how and where I like the layout very much. The problem was the digital PDF textbook and lack of cross-references. Good idea to have the extended tools reference in the tool tip. - Murray Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 21:33:46-GMT,3203;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16062 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25401; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:26:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:19:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24758; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:19:02 -0500 Received: from mail1.sdf.darwin.net (mail1.sdf.darwin.net [209.119.92.23]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24750 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:19:00 -0500 Received: from Senior.monkscopyshop.com (vw.monks.com [216.173.79.230] (may be forged)) by mail1.sdf.darwin.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) with SMTP id RAA24301 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:18:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200009192118.RAA24301@mail1.sdf.darwin.net> X-Authentication-Warning: mail1.sdf.darwin.net: Host vw.monks.com [216.173.79.230] (may be forged) claimed to be Senior.monkscopyshop.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:18:59 -0400 From: Larry Kendall mime-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v317) content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.317) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ HelveticaFrom: = HelveticaLarry Kendall = < Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:04:25 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing = pdf files David, I can no longer resist putting in a comment. The little arrows or triangles that signify further actions or = information are available are neither Adobe centric nor limited to the = publishing world. They have been a part of both apple and Microsoft = system software for many years and are a standard way of denoting a = hierarchy of information. Janet's problem was that her screen made them = look like dots. Her suggestion of having a hint in the 'tool tips' is an = excellent idea. Pitstop has been one of my favorite tools since I discovered it almost 3 = years ago(1.2) and has been a key factor in making PDF the backbone of = our digital workflow. Please do not try to make it more like Office. Thanks to you and Enfocus for being a part of this forum. Larry Kendall = Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Sep-2000 21:51:40-GMT,2265;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16575 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:51:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26396; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:40:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:33:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25979; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:33:28 -0500 Received: from comcom.com (netsrv03.comcom.com [207.67.13.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25975 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:33:27 -0500 Received: from mailbox.comcom.com ([207.67.13.213]) by comcom.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19016 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:34:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:38:13 -0500 Message-ID: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D9625@mailbox> From: "Leone-Thiel, Pat" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Extarcting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:38:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Janet's problem was that her screen made them look like dots. All too common an occurrance I'm afraid. Her suggestion of having a hint in the 'tool tips' is an excellent idea. Here Here! Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. 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I am going from Word 97 to Adobe 4.05 under Windows NT and would like to use this feature but can find no documentation on it. Is there any out there? Thanks for any help or direction you can give. Katrina Haggerty MasterCard International Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Sep-2000 21:10:48-GMT,2698;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18032 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:10:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08386; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:00:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:55:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07658; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:55:19 -0500 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07647 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:55:16 -0500 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA04837 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:55:44 +0100 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Document Structure Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:55:05 -0000 Message-ID: <005901c0234d$6ffa4320$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <86256960.00700F92.00@mastercard.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Does anyone use the Document Structure under the Bookmark tab > using PDFMaker? I > am going from Word 97 to Adobe 4.05 under Windows NT and > would like to use this > feature but can find no documentation on it. Is there any out there? This is a difficult one. It causes Acrobat to store extra information into the PDF file, which allows it to store more of the word document's structure. Otherwise, such things as paragraphs are completely lost. I do not know of any applications which use this feature to provide extra information. However, we may expect them to do so in the future (though that's what I said 18 months ago, as I recall). Still, using it may provide more options in the future. Aandi Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Sep-2000 21:11:33-GMT,2742;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18058 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:11:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08789; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:04:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:59:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08125; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:59:17 -0500 Received: from niagarac.on.ca (mail.niagara-college.com [192.197.62.37]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08113 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:59:15 -0500 Received: from NCGWDOMAIN1-Message_Server by niagarac.on.ca with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:53:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:52:51 -0400 From: "Bob Roach" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Touchup in Photoshop doesn't work Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA08117 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >Using the Touchup Object tool, hold down the Ctrl (Windows) or Option (Macintosh) and double click on an image. This will open (if not already open) Photoshop 5.0+. You can edit the image and save, and the image will be automatically updated in Acrobat.< Norman, I can get PShop (Windows) to launch this way but instead of opening to the embedded image, it triggers the open PDF dbox where I then have to choose color space and rez. And it seems to be locked to the PDF page size so if you have a small graphic, you wind up with a big system drain. Also, after I edit the image (which seems to reside in the temp folder), how do I save and return? PShop only allows me to save to a PSD, and there's no 'save changes and return' button available. Could it have anything to do with Pshop's or PDF association registry settings? Illustrator works fine though in this scenario. Regards, Bob Roach Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Sep-2000 21:52:18-GMT,2324;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19227 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:52:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11377; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:39:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:33:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10951; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:33:54 -0500 Received: from 38.164.135.2 ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10947 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:33:53 -0500 Received: from [63.100.177.66] by 38.164.135.2 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 102438 via TCP with SMTP; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:33:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@38.164.135.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <005901c0234d$6ffa4320$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> References: <005901c0234d$6ffa4320$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:31:52 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: RE: [PDF] Document Structure Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >I do not know of any applications which use this feature to provide >extra information. However, we may expect them to do so in the future >(though that's what I said 18 months ago, as I recall). Still, >using it may provide more options in the future. > >Aandi Aandi, Acrobat Web Capture adds document structure. -- Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 60 South Lansdowne Avenue Lansdowne, PA 19050 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Sep-2000 22:16:51-GMT,2880;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19860 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13234; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:05:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:00:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12827; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:00:15 -0500 Received: from 38.164.135.2 ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA12819 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:00:13 -0500 Received: from [207.29.205.93] ([207.29.200.50] ) by 38.164.135.2 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 102562 via TCP with SMTP; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:01:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <005901c0234d$6ffa4320$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> References: <005901c0234d$6ffa4320$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:50:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] Document Structure Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 9:55 PM +0000 9/20/00, Aandi Inston wrote: >This is a difficult one. It causes Acrobat to store extra information >into the PDF file, which allows it to store more of the word >document's structure. Otherwise, such things as paragraphs are >completely lost. > >I do not know of any applications which use this feature to provide >extra information. However, we may expect them to do so in the future >(though that's what I said 18 months ago, as I recall). Still, >using it may provide more options in the future. > Acrobat already allows you to do a number of useful things based on structure, but the really cool stuff is definitely in the pipe... Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 0:52:57-GMT,3141;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23179 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22207; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:42:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:35:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21867; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:35:47 -0500 Received: from generic2.axs2000.net (mail@[209.146.38.26]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21852 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:35:40 -0500 Received: from bertha (209-146-91-126ppp.axs2000.net [209.146.91.126]) by generic2.axs2000.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA12570 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:35:43 -0500 From: "James Rile" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: Extracting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:35:30 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c02363$d8f5dd60$0100a8c0@bertha> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >I'm trying to extract graphics (pictures or charts) from exiting pdf >files...is there a quick-and-dirty way to do this using either Acrobat or another >third-party product? I've been enlarging the files to 300% of their original size in >Reader and then taking a screenshot, but the results are predictably mediocre... > I am not writing about the Acrobat toolbar interface, but to directly address this question! There is a very useful and FREE plug-in available from Image Solutions, called ISICopy, that can copy a graphic image from the PDF page to the clipboard in user-selectable resolutions from 72 DPI to 400 DPI. From the clipboard, you can paste it into your graphic editor of choice. You can read about this free plug-in at: http://www.imagesolutions.com/isi_software.htm You can download it at: For batch-extraction of graphics from an entire multipage PDF file, with many output options, check out the Gemini and Fresco plug-ins from Iceni: (reasonably priced) http://www.iceni.com James Rile James Rile Associates Tel: (610) 983-3682 sales@pdfwebsearch.com http://www.pdfwebsearch.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 8:04:18-GMT,2857;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01626 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:04:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10719; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:53:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:46:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10350; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:46:31 -0500 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10346 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:46:29 -0500 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA05623 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:46:40 +0100 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Touchup in Photoshop doesn't work Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:46:12 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c023a8$6db17c40$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I can get PShop (Windows) to launch this way but instead of > opening to the embedded image, it triggers the open PDF dbox > where I then have to choose color space and rez. And it seems > to be locked to the PDF page size so if you have a small > graphic, you wind up with a big system drain. Also, after I > edit the image (which seems to reside in the temp folder), > how do I save and return? PShop only allows me to save to a > PSD, and there's no 'save changes and return' button > available. Acrobat includes a Photoshop plug-in for PDF opening. Make sure it is copied from Acrobat's Photoshop plug-in folder into a suitable Photoshop folder. There is no "save and return" button. In Photoshop you just save the file; Acrobat is waiting for this and replaces it. Warning: don't continue editing - saving it again has no effect on Acrobat! Aandi Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 12:19:12-GMT,2305;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05952 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:19:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23942; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:08:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:01:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23494; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:00:58 -0500 Received: from thefreeinternet.co.uk (hermes-3.bizonline.net [212.95.128.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA23481 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:00:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 13501 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2000 12:00:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 5120) (213.108.36.157) by hermes-3.bizonline.net with SMTP; 21 Sep 2000 12:00:41 -0000 Message-ID: <005c01c023c3$df635dc0$9d246cd5@5120> From: "Andy Kemp" To: References: <200009202026.PAA04117@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Font Width Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:02:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks George! Somethimes the simple stuff eludes me ;-) Andy > The option is not greyed out, > but after I change the figure from 80 to 100, I can't > find a way of making the change "stick". As soon as I > move focus the value in the box changes back to 80% ... You have to hit the ENTER key after typing a new value. 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(209.164.209.210) by mail.avreafoster.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2000 12:41:46 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:23:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Extracting graphics from existing pdf files From: Joan Wagner To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000a01c02363$d8f5dd60$0100a8c0@bertha> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ How do you install the plug-in? I tried putting it in the plug-in folder of Acrobat 4.0 and I am not seeing it in the Acrobat menu. > From: "James Rile" > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:35:30 -0400 > To: > Subject: [PDF] Re: Extracting graphics from existing pdf files > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > >> I'm trying to extract graphics (pictures or charts) from exiting pdf >> files...is there a quick-and-dirty way to do this using either Acrobat or > another >> third-party product? I've been enlarging the files to 300% of their > original size in >> Reader and then taking a screenshot, but the results are predictably > mediocre... >> > I am not writing about the Acrobat toolbar interface, but to directly > address this question! > > There is a very useful and FREE plug-in available from Image Solutions, > called ISICopy, that can copy a graphic image from the PDF page to the > clipboard in user-selectable resolutions from 72 DPI to 400 DPI. From the > clipboard, you can paste it into your graphic editor of choice. > > You can read about this free plug-in at: > http://www.imagesolutions.com/isi_software.htm > > You can download it at: > > > For batch-extraction of graphics from an entire multipage PDF file, with > many output options, check out the Gemini and Fresco plug-ins from Iceni: > (reasonably priced) > http://www.iceni.com > > James Rile > James Rile Associates > Tel: (610) 983-3682 > sales@pdfwebsearch.com > http://www.pdfwebsearch.com > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 14:13:05-GMT,2383;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08187 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:13:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31486; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:59:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:53:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31120; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:53:23 -0500 Received: from prserv.net (out4.prserv.net [32.97.166.34]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31116 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:53:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200009211353.IAA31116@everglades.binc.net> Received: from slip-32-101-27-64.ma.us.prserv.net ([32.101.27.64]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2000092113531923902d5u7be>; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:53:20 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Date: Thu, 21 Sep 00 09:53:16 +0700 X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:26:17 -0500, pdf-digest wrote: > It never occurred to me to look in the manual I have found it good practice to make the first step in using anything technical (in the case of software, before loading the program; in the case of hardware, before operating the ON switch) to read the manual end to end. In the case of software it produces all kinds of mental associations when loading and setting up the new program which eases life greatly. (This has been encapsulated in folk wisdom as RTFM.) Jeffrey Race Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 14:26:07-GMT,2434;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08472 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:26:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00275; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:18:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:12:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32549; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:12:19 -0500 Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA32545 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:12:18 -0500 Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:11:48 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:11:38 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA32546 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I'm.... I'm crying with unabashed joy! SOMEBODY actually *reads* the manuals we write. Bless you Jeffrey, you are a saint! Rob Domaschuk Adobe Certified Expert (FrameMaker) Supervisor of Technical Communication, Boise Cascade Office Products 630.773.7101 "Experience is the name that so many give to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde >>> jrace@attglobal.net 09/20/00 09:53PM >>> I have found it good practice to ...... read the manual end to end. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 15:04:49-GMT,3868;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09553 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:04:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02921; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:55:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:49:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02562; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:49:35 -0500 Received: from comcom.com (netsrv03.comcom.com [207.67.13.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02555 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:49:34 -0500 Received: from mailbox.comcom.com ([207.67.13.213]) by comcom.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17346 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:50:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:54:22 -0500 Message-ID: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D9631@mailbox> From: "Leone-Thiel, Pat" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:54:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Unfortunately for anyone trying to support software use, Jeffrey is the exception, not the rule. I have a feeling that only the spoken word will eventually be used for installing and using softwares. I believe 'John Q. Public' typically waits to be TOLD what to do, and does not feel any sense of adventure opening a README, much less a manual (online or paper). The next generation of software? must be entirely intuitive, operating from 'feelings' picked up from whatever the 'mouse' will eventually look like. (Maybe someone at MIT has such a hardware/software combo in prototype now?) "SNAP" Back to reality. For now, technical writers are safe in their jobs, but not appreciated. Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. (www.comcom.com) 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive Hartland, WI 53029 (ph) 262.369.6000 (fx) 262.369.5647 1.800.362.8832 -----Original Message----- From: Rob Domaschuk [mailto:rdomaschuk@mail.bcop.com] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:12 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I'm.... I'm crying with unabashed joy! SOMEBODY actually *reads* the manuals we write. Bless you Jeffrey, you are a saint! Rob Domaschuk Adobe Certified Expert (FrameMaker) Supervisor of Technical Communication, Boise Cascade Office Products 630.773.7101 "Experience is the name that so many give to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde >>> jrace@attglobal.net 09/20/00 09:53PM >>> I have found it good practice to ...... read the manual end to end. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 15:54:48-GMT,4603;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11012 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06596; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:36:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:30:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05893; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:30:39 -0500 Received: from smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu (smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu [152.2.1.139]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05880 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:30:33 -0500 Received: from [152.2.235.40] (iapetus.fpg.unc.edu [152.2.235.40]) by smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA26816 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:30:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009211530.LAA26816@smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:29:42 -0400 From: jbrady@email.unc.edu (Michael Brady) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Hey, be a better learner! X-Mailer: Siren Mail for Macintosh 4.0.2 X-Sender: jbrady@imap.unc.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Patricia: > Unfortunately for anyone trying to support software use, Jeffrey is the > exception, not the rule. > I have a feeling that only the spoken word will eventually be used for > installing and using softwares. Let's not forget the "client-side" factors, namely, learning styles. Some people are aural, some visual, some tactile. True story: when I tried to teach my daughter to drive a straight transmission car, we both got nowhere as I explained how the powertrain worked and what the clutch did. But when I realized I should play to her strength as a gymnast, I told her to feel the vibrations of the car through her feet and hands and mesh the clutch and gears accordingly. Bam, she was driving serviceably within half an hour! Some folks learn much better and more quickly by demonstrations by another person, with lots of "show me"s and immediate feedback. Others learn by going off by themselves and reading a manual. I am one of the former, mostly. > I believe 'John Q. Public' typically waits to be TOLD what to do, and does > not feel any sense of adventure opening a README, much less a manual (online > or paper). Geez, lighten up! :-) Does JQP *have to* feel a sense of adventure opening the ReadMe? It's usually a dreary ol' TXT file of all the iterations of the beta version, and don't forget to disable virus protection when you install the program, fer cryin' out loud! > The next generation of software must be entirely intuitive, operating from > 'feelings' picked up from whatever the 'mouse' will eventually look like. > (Maybe someone at MIT has such a hardware/software combo in prototype now?) > "SNAP" Back to reality. > For now, technical writers are safe in their jobs, but not appreciated. Technical writers should take a hint from Kvern and Roth, who gave us "Real World PageMaker 4," a wonderful, clearly written book that described many of the tasks faced by actual users of the software. (E.g.: How do you get a line with a paragraph? And why should I want to do that? I'm confused by the difference beteen filling a rectangle with ""Paper" and applying the color "Paper" to the entire rectangle? Etc. Etc.) They wrote the book from the perspective of a user, not from the perspective of the programmers. Real World PM4 stood in great contrast to Adobe's Classrooms in a Box software. I've ready the PM and Photoshop books, and for the life of me, I cannot follow them very easily, even though (1) I'm a pretty smart guy, you betch'um; and (2) they seem to be literately written and nicely laid out books. ------------------- Michael Brady 16 Pedestal Rock Lane Durham, NC 27712 Voice 919 471 9554 fax 919 962 2707 jbrady@email.unc.edu http://www.unc.edu/~jbrady/index.html Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 16:00:06-GMT,2153;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11185 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:00:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08073; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:52:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:47:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07614; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:47:17 -0500 Received: from niagarac.on.ca (mail.niagara-college.com [192.197.62.37]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07602 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:47:12 -0500 Received: from NCGWDOMAIN1-Message_Server by niagarac.on.ca with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:41:13 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:40:50 -0400 From: "Bob Roach" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Form X objects? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA07605 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Some of my plugins for Acrobat which apply transforms to images will often return the message that the selected image is a 'Form-X object' and not editable. This only seems to occur with PageMaker pages. So, what is a Form-X object, under what conditions are they created, and is there anyway to avoid them? Many thanks. -BR Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 16:28:46-GMT,4943;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11972 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:28:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09828; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:16:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:12:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09481; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:11:59 -0500 Received: from comcom.com (netsrv03.comcom.com [207.67.13.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09475 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:11:58 -0500 Received: from mailbox.comcom.com ([207.67.13.213]) by comcom.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20849 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:16:46 -0500 Message-ID: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D9635@mailbox> From: "Leone-Thiel, Pat" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Hey, be a better learner! Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:16:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Mr. Brady: I believe we agree on many points. But, True Story, I've spent many hours in the phone support trenches, after faxing detailed instructions, reading them to the client, and then finally resolving their problems after I made them repeat what they thought I said on paper and in my vocal instruction. There ARE different types of learners. And, under the right circumstance, anyone will find their 'best way' to learn new things. But, I believe too that people that sit down at a computer are not in the frame of mind to learn, unlike your daughter (anxious to drive). They are in the frame of mind that the computer and software should know what they're trying to accomplish (by osmosis?). And, albeit this is totally anecdotal, I don't believe the users, generally speaking, are getting any smarter about using the technology. Sometimes the technology is 'dumbed down' instead. Ask the technical writers (STC) what grade level they typically write to? Sixth grade, last I was informed. How many times can you ask the client, "Did you look in the online HELP?" only to hear, "Well, no, not yet." BTW, my father taught me to drive a 5-speed too, and he didn't kill me either (obviously). It did take more than an hour to overcome starting out from a dead stop on a steep grade...I rolled back to the bottom of the hill alot. But I was determined to learn how to do it, and the experience has paid off many times over, beyond the realm of automobiles. Respectfully, Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. (www.comcom.com) 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive Hartland, WI 53029 (ph) 262.369.6000 (fx) 262.369.5647 1.800.362.8832 -----Original Message----- From: jbrady@email.unc.edu [mailto:jbrady@email.unc.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 10:30 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Hey, be a better learner! The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Patricia: > Unfortunately for anyone trying to support software use, Jeffrey is the > exception, not the rule. > I have a feeling that only the spoken word will eventually be used for > installing and using softwares. Let's not forget the "client-side" factors, namely, learning styles. Some people are aural, some visual, some tactile. True story: when I tried to teach my daughter to drive a straight transmission car, we both got nowhere as I explained how the powertrain worked and what the clutch did. But when I realized I should play to her strength as a gymnast, I told her to feel the vibrations of the car through her feet and hands and mesh the clutch and gears accordingly. Bam, she was driving serviceably within half an hour! Some folks learn much better and more quickly by demonstrations by another person, with lots of "show me"s and immediate feedback. Others learn by going off by themselves and reading a manual. I am one of the former, mostly. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 16:31:48-GMT,3251;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12040 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:31:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10474; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:23:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:18:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10084; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:18:57 -0500 Received: from lbx1.labelexp.com ([63.78.183.227]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10080 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:18:56 -0500 Received: by LBX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:16:34 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Wade, Bruce" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:17:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ It has been documented through rigorous scientific study, that one major underlying distiction between those who live in the Wintel world and those who live in the MacOS world, is that Wintel users tend to "read the blankety manual". MacOS users rarely read manuals. Apparently reading manuals is not required for MacOS users, as they continue to thrive against all odds. Must be something in the operating systems... Ooops, an early start to Friday! bew -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Jeffrey Race [mailto:jrace@attglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:53 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:26:17 -0500, pdf-digest wrote: > It never occurred to me to look in the manual I have found it good practice to make the first step in using anything technical (in the case of software, before loading the program; in the case of hardware, before operating the ON switch) to read the manual end to end. In the case of software it produces all kinds of mental associations when loading and setting up the new program which eases life greatly. (This has been encapsulated in folk wisdom as RTFM.) Jeffrey Race Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 16:50:12-GMT,4460;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12534 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:50:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12115; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:41:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:36:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11651; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:36:10 -0500 Received: from comcom.com (netsrv03.comcom.com [207.67.13.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11633 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:35:59 -0500 Received: from mailbox.comcom.com ([207.67.13.213]) by comcom.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21715 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:36:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:40:47 -0500 Message-ID: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D9636@mailbox> From: "Leone-Thiel, Pat" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:40:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ And which study was that? Published by Dr. Jobs? :-) I still believe that education and training are still keys to unlocking user satisfaction. Fortunately for those that follow this list, we have some of the best minds in the business to guide us. May the debate RIP. BTW, do MACs come with manuals?;-) Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. (www.comcom.com) 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive Hartland, WI 53029 (ph) 262.369.6000 (fx) 262.369.5647 1.800.362.8832 -----Original Message----- From: Wade, Bruce [mailto:wade@TheInnovativePkg.com] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:17 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ It has been documented through rigorous scientific study, that one major underlying distiction between those who live in the Wintel world and those who live in the MacOS world, is that Wintel users tend to "read the blankety manual". MacOS users rarely read manuals. Apparently reading manuals is not required for MacOS users, as they continue to thrive against all odds. Must be something in the operating systems... Ooops, an early start to Friday! bew -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Jeffrey Race [mailto:jrace@attglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:53 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:26:17 -0500, pdf-digest wrote: > It never occurred to me to look in the manual I have found it good practice to make the first step in using anything technical (in the case of software, before loading the program; in the case of hardware, before operating the ON switch) to read the manual end to end. In the case of software it produces all kinds of mental associations when loading and setting up the new program which eases life greatly. (This has been encapsulated in folk wisdom as RTFM.) Jeffrey Race Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 17:04:54-GMT,11520;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12972 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:04:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13058; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:51:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:47:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12615; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:47:01 -0500 Received: from smtpnew.quark.com (root@smtpnew.quark.com [206.195.78.16]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12606 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:46:58 -0500 Received: from denver.quark.com (denver.quark.com [206.195.71.192]) by smtpnew.quark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30780 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:59:57 -0600 Received: by denver.quark.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:46:33 -0600 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C08734A2C@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:46:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C023EB.7F651D96" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C023EB.7F651D96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Folks, As this topic is truly getting (maybe "has gotten") off topic, I suggest you continue it "off list." Todd Reid Quark, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Leone-Thiel, Pat [mailto:pleone@comcom.com] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 10:41 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ And which study was that? Published by Dr. Jobs? :-) I still believe that education and training are still keys to unlocking user satisfaction. Fortunately for those that follow this list, we have some of the best minds in the business to guide us. May the debate RIP. BTW, do MACs come with manuals?;-) Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. (www.comcom.com) 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive Hartland, WI 53029 (ph) 262.369.6000 (fx) 262.369.5647 1.800.362.8832 -----Original Message----- From: Wade, Bruce [mailto:wade@TheInnovativePkg.com] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:17 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ It has been documented through rigorous scientific study, that one major underlying distiction between those who live in the Wintel world and those who live in the MacOS world, is that Wintel users tend to "read the blankety manual". MacOS users rarely read manuals. Apparently reading manuals is not required for MacOS users, as they continue to thrive against all odds. Must be something in the operating systems... Ooops, an early start to Friday! bew -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Jeffrey Race [mailto:jrace@attglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:53 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:26:17 -0500, pdf-digest wrote: > It never occurred to me to look in the manual I have found it good practice to make the first step in using anything technical (in the case of software, before loading the program; in the case of hardware, before operating the ON switch) to read the manual end to end. In the case of software it produces all kinds of mental associations when loading and setting up the new program which eases life greatly. (This has been encapsulated in folk wisdom as RTFM.) Jeffrey Race Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C023EB.7F651D96 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891]

Folks,
As this topic is truly getting (maybe "has = gotten") off topic, I suggest you continue it "off = list."

Todd Reid
Quark, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leone-Thiel, Pat [mailto:pleone@comcom.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 10:41 AM
To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'
Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for = September-20-2000 [V2 #891]



The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | = http://www.pdfzone.com
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And which study was that?
Published by Dr. Jobs? :-)
I still believe that education and training are = still keys to unlocking user
satisfaction.
Fortunately for those that follow this list, we have = some of the best minds
in the business to guide us.
May the debate RIP.

BTW, do MACs come with manuals?;-)

Patricia Leone-Thiel
Client Training Services Mgr.
pleoneth@comcom.com
Commercial Communications, Inc. = (www.comcom.com)
1225 Walnut Ridge Drive
Hartland, WI 53029
(ph) 262.369.6000
(fx) 262.369.5647
1.800.362.8832


-----Original Message-----
From: Wade, Bruce [mailto:wade@TheInnovativePkg.c= om]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:17 AM
To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'
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It has been documented through rigorous scientific = study, that one major
underlying distiction between those who live in the = Wintel world and those
who live in the MacOS world, is that Wintel users = tend to "read the blankety
manual". MacOS users rarely read manuals. = Apparently reading manuals is not
required for MacOS users, as they continue to thrive = against all odds.

Must be something in the operating systems... = <g>

Ooops, an early start to Friday!

bew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Jeffrey Race [mailto:jrace@attglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:53 PM
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:26:17 -0500, pdf-digest = wrote:
> It never occurred to me to look in the manual =

I have found it good practice to make the first step = in using anything
technical (in the case of software, before loading = the program; in the
case of hardware, before operating the ON = switch)  to read the manual
end to end.    In the case of = software it produces all kinds of mental
associations when loading and setting up the new = program which eases
life greatly.

(This has been encapsulated in folk wisdom as = RTFM.)

Jeffrey Race






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------_=_NextPart_001_01C023EB.7F651D96-- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 17:26:47-GMT,5888;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13618 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:26:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14832; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:16:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:12:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14608; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:12:12 -0500 Received: from comcom.com (netsrv03.comcom.com [207.67.13.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14604 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:12:10 -0500 Received: from mailbox.comcom.com ([207.67.13.213]) by comcom.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22468 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:12:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:16:59 -0500 Message-ID: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D9638@mailbox> From: "Leone-Thiel, Pat" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:16:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Agreed. As I wrote, "May the debate RIP" Respectfully, Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. (www.comcom.com) 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive Hartland, WI 53029 (ph) 262.369.6000 (fx) 262.369.5647 1.800.362.8832 -----Original Message----- From: Todd Reid [mailto:TReid@quark.com] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:46 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] Folks, As this topic is truly getting (maybe "has gotten") off topic, I suggest you continue it "off list." Todd Reid Quark, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Leone-Thiel, Pat [ mailto:pleone@comcom.com ] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 10:41 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ And which study was that? Published by Dr. Jobs? :-) I still believe that education and training are still keys to unlocking user satisfaction. Fortunately for those that follow this list, we have some of the best minds in the business to guide us. May the debate RIP. BTW, do MACs come with manuals?;-) Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. (www.comcom.com) 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive Hartland, WI 53029 (ph) 262.369.6000 (fx) 262.369.5647 1.800.362.8832 -----Original Message----- From: Wade, Bruce [ mailto:wade@TheInnovativePkg.com ] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:17 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ It has been documented through rigorous scientific study, that one major underlying distiction between those who live in the Wintel world and those who live in the MacOS world, is that Wintel users tend to "read the blankety manual". MacOS users rarely read manuals. Apparently reading manuals is not required for MacOS users, as they continue to thrive against all odds. Must be something in the operating systems... Ooops, an early start to Friday! bew -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Jeffrey Race [ mailto:jrace@attglobal.net ] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:53 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-20-2000 [V2 #891] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:26:17 -0500, pdf-digest wrote: > It never occurred to me to look in the manual I have found it good practice to make the first step in using anything technical (in the case of software, before loading the program; in the case of hardware, before operating the ON switch) to read the manual end to end. In the case of software it produces all kinds of mental associations when loading and setting up the new program which eases life greatly. (This has been encapsulated in folk wisdom as RTFM.) Jeffrey Race Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 17:41:21-GMT,4766;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14111 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:41:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15616; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:26:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:22:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15316; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:22:23 -0500 Received: from smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu (smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu [152.2.1.139]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15312 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:22:21 -0500 Received: from [152.2.235.40] (iapetus.fpg.unc.edu [152.2.235.40]) by smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA21474 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009211722.NAA21474@smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:21:32 -0400 From: jbrady@email.unc.edu (Michael Brady) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Suitably TAN X-Mailer: Siren Mail for Macintosh 4.0.2 X-Sender: jbrady@imap.unc.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > It has been documented through rigorous scientific study, that one major > underlying distiction between those who live in the Wintel world and those > who live in the MacOS world, is that Wintel users tend to "read the blankety > manual". MacOS users rarely read manuals. Apparently reading manuals is not > required for MacOS users, as they continue to thrive against all odds. > > Must be something in the operating systems... I think you are referring to Umberto Eco's famous analytical comparison of Windows and Macintosh operating systems. I have taken the liberty of giving it here below: -------------- Umberto Eco's Analogy "Mac:DOS as Catholic:Protestant" The following excerpts are from an English translation of Umberto Eco's back-page column, "La bustina di Minerva," in the Italian news weekly Espresso, September 30, 1994. "Insufficient consideration has been given to the new underground religious war which is modifying the modern world. It's an old idea of mine, but I find that whenever I tell people about it they immediately agree with me. "The fact is that the world is divided between users of the Macintosh computer and users of MS-DOS compatible computers. I am firmly of the opinion that the Macintosh is Catholic and that DOS is Protestant. Indeed, the Macintosh is counter-reformist and has been influenced by the 'ratio studiorum' of the Jesuits. It is cheerful, friendly, conciliatory, it tells the faithful how they must proceed step by step to reach--if not the Kingdom of Heaven--the moment in which their document is printed. It is catechistic: the essence of revelation is dealt with via simple formulae and sumptuous icons. Everyone has a right to salvation. "DOS is Protestant, or even Calvinistic. It allows free interpretation of scripture, demands difficult personal decisions, imposes a subtle hermeneutics upon the user, and takes for granted the idea that not all can reach salvation. To make the system work you need to interpret the program yourself: a long way from the baroque community of revellers, the user is closed within the loneliness of his own inner torment. "You may object that, with the passage to Windows, the DOS universe has come to resemble more closely the counter-reformist tolerance of the Macintosh. It's true: Windows represents an Anglican-style schism, big ceremonies in the cathedral, but there is always the possibility of a return to DOS to change things in accordance with bizarre decisions; when it comes down to it, you can decide to allow women and gays to be ministers if you want to.... "And machine code, which lies beneath both systems (or environments, if you prefer)? Ah, that is to do with the Old Testament, and is talmudic and cabalistic...." ------------------- Michael Brady 16 Pedestal Rock Lane Durham, NC 27712 Voice 919 471 9554 fax 919 962 2707 jbrady@email.unc.edu http://www.unc.edu/~jbrady/index.html > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 19:24:59-GMT,3183;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17055 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:24:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22828; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:15:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:08:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22417; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:08:57 -0500 Received: from comcom.com (netsrv03.comcom.com [207.67.13.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22413 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:08:56 -0500 Received: from mailbox.comcom.com ([207.67.13.213]) by comcom.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25469 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:09:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:13:44 -0500 Message-ID: <20D5861A4053D411A3B200105A0A7EDB1D963A@mailbox> From: "Leone-Thiel, Pat" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Suitably TAN Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:13:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Apologies to the list for being at the root of the 'off-topic' branch... Lesson learned. Patricia Leone-Thiel Client Training Services Mgr. pleoneth@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. (www.comcom.com) 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive Hartland, WI 53029 (ph) 262.369.6000 (fx) 262.369.5647 1.800.362.8832 -----Original Message----- From: jbrady@email.unc.edu [mailto:jbrady@email.unc.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:22 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Suitably TAN The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > It has been documented through rigorous scientific study, that one major > underlying distiction between those who live in the Wintel world and those > who live in the MacOS world, is that Wintel users tend to "read the blankety > manual". MacOS users rarely read manuals. Apparently reading manuals is not > required for MacOS users, as they continue to thrive against all odds. > > Must be something in the operating systems... I think you are referring to Umberto Eco's famous analytical comparison of Windows and Macintosh operating systems. I have taken the liberty of giving it here below: Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 20:29:18-GMT,3500;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18872 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:29:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26787; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:15:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:10:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26386; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:10:13 -0500 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26375 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:10:05 -0500 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA06555 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:10:32 +0100 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Form X objects? Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:09:49 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c02410$475c93a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Some of my plugins for Acrobat which apply transforms to > images will often return the message that the selected image > is a 'Form-X object' and not editable. This only seems to > occur with PageMaker pages. So, what is a Form-X object, > under what conditions are they created, and is there anyway > to avoid them? First, form XObjects are nothing to do with form FILLING as most people know it. A form XObject is kind of like a page-within-a-page. For instance, they might hold a logo, that can then be on every page, with only one copy. Does it happen that way? No. Form XObjects from PageMaker will mostly happen because of OPI comments from using OPI images or TIFFs. You can turn that off in Acrobat Distiller ("preserve OPI" off). Unfortunately, InDesign exports PDF files simply crawling with these XObjects. One product limited in what it can do with form XObjects is Quite A Box Of Tricks. It does go on about them in the manual a bit (someone who proof-read the manual gave their summary: "the form XObject did it".) We have been working on a version of Box Of Tricks that removes all the restrictions and allows shrinking, info, and hairline thickening of form XObjects, and therefore doesn't bother to mention them. So now all that stuff can come out of the manual too... Anyway, the latest beta with full support for form XObjects can be downloaded from http://www.quite.com/preview/. There have been many changes and this is the first version with this support; please use with caution. Aandi Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 21:13:11-GMT,2361;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20104 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:13:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29495; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:51:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:45:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28966; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:45:22 -0500 Received: from cpia.jhu.edu (cpia.jhu.edu [128.220.198.28]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28962; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:45:20 -0500 Received: from cpia.jhu.edu (hidden-user@[192.168.2.1]) by cpia.jhu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA09578; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:45:10 -0400 Message-ID: <39CA7354.EE38712C@cpia.jhu.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:45:08 -0400 From: Hugh Taylor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Basics List , PDF List Subject: [PDF] Using Page Capture on multiple PDF files. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Is there a way to start Page Capture on multiple PDF files (created by importing tiff files) and let it run. We are converting scanned tiff files into multiple pdf files, then need to create hidden text pdf files. Doing each file individually is going to be really time consuming, and as the files are already in tiff, I don't want to rescan them. I tried to get information from Adobe as to whether Capture would do this, but was told they would have to set up a technical call back, which would take at least a month! -- Hugh Taylor Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 21:48:00-GMT,2598;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21167 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:47:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32364; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:32:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:27:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31821; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:27:03 -0500 Received: from mail (mail.document-solutions.com [216.103.111.12]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA31811 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:27:00 -0500 Received: from OAKLAND-Message_Server by mail with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:26:38 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:26:33 -0700 From: "Duff Johnson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Using Page Capture on multiple PDF files. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA31816 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >Is there a way to start Page Capture on multiple PDF files (created by >importing tiff files) and let it run. We are converting scanned tiff >files into multiple pdf files, then need to create hidden text pdf >files. Doing each file individually is going to be really time >consuming, and as the files are already in tiff, I don't want to rescan >them. I tried to get information from Adobe as to whether Capture would >do this, but was told they would have to set up a technical call back, >which would take at least a month! You need an application called Adobe Acrobat Capture. The Page Capture feature in Acrobat is a simple plug-in for handling 1 document at a time. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 22:46:39-GMT,2562;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22801 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:46:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04831; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:37:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:32:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04558; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:32:56 -0500 Received: from infosys.amada.com ([38.184.92.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04554 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:32:55 -0500 Received: from jmaechtlen.amada.com (JAYM.amada.com [207.220.64.231]) by infosys.amada.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-66907U800L200S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:42:27 -0700 From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "PDF List (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Re: Extracting graphics from existing pdf files Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:34:15 -0700 Message-ID: <000601c0241c$1322b5e0$e740dccf@amada.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ If you need something better than a fancy screen shot: The best way I've found is to export PS from Acrobat, open it with (or import it into ) Corel Draw. Then you get the full vector art. Can then strip unneeded stuff, manipulate as desired. Or, if there are bitmaps in there, can click on it (each one) in Draw and "edit bitmap". That pulls up PhotoPaint, where you can "save copy", and get the real thing on disk... There may be simpler ways, of course... Jay Maechtlen Technical Publications Amada School Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Sep-2000 7:58:01-GMT,3739;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03500 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 01:58:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00256; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 02:51:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 02:46:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA32665; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 02:46:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw1.netvision.net.il (mailgw1.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.14]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA32661 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 02:46:15 -0500 Received: from shlomo.microtype.com (ras4-p30.nt.netvision.net.il [212.143.221.154]) by mailgw1.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08470; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:46:10 +0300 (IDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000922011216.00c665f0@mail.netvision.net.il> X-Sender: mtype@mail.netvision.net.il X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:16:16 +0100 To: Katrina_Haggerty@mastercard.com From: Shlomo Perets Subject: [PDF] Re: Document Structure Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com In-Reply-To: <86256960.00700F92.00@mastercard.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA32662 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Katrina, You wrote: >Does anyone use the Document Structure under the Bookmark tab using >PDFMaker? I >am going from Word 97 to Adobe 4.05 under Windows NT and would like to use >this >feature but can find no documentation on it. Is there any out there? Not much... Searching adobe.com as well as the entire internet results in very little (only one document specifically addressing the implementation of structure in PDF - an Adobe white paper; similar info appears in the PDF Reference manual, 2nd Edition, http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/DOCS/PDFRef.pdf). With current Acrobat 4.05/4.06 versions, structure can be seen through "structured bookmarks": * The end-user using Acrobat Reader can right-click a structured bookmark and select "print" – in which case the pages associated with the element will be printed. * When using the full version of Acrobat 4.05/4.06, right-clicking a structured bookmark also enables you to delete/extract the pages associated with the element. These operations assume a consistent relationship between elements and pages – which might not be the case in many documents. Another problem is that "structure" may not be directly/ consistently related to the use of paragraph styles, which is what PDFmaker uses. Structure-related functions such as search and navigation could be useful in future versions, when Acrobat is enhanced, or plug-ins developed; reflow of content in PDF will also use structure information internally. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-21-2000 [V2 #892] References: <200009212127.QAA31847@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ To list posters: Perhaps some of you need to READ YOUR MANUALS for your e-mail programs so that you can turn off HTML or Rich Text formatting and post your messages to the list as PLAIN TEXT. Following my signature is a sample of what I see every day in the digest version. Thanks in advance (I hope) Michael Kies. ------------------Typical HTML or RTF garbage---------------------
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:26:17 -0500, pdf-digest = wrote:
> It never occurred to me to look in the manual =

I have found it good practice to make the first step = in using anything
technical (in the case of software, before loading = the program; in the
case of hardware, before operating the ON = switch)  to read the manual
end to end.    In the case of = software it produces all kinds of mental
associations when loading and setting up the new = program which eases
life greatly.

(This has been encapsulated in folk wisdom as = RTFM.)

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I am new to this list and wanted to = know how I can=20 receive this in "digest" form instead of individual emails.
 
Thanks
David
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p.s.  Please forgive me if this is = obvious, or=20 has been answered 3000 times.  :)
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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA24063 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In Acrobat 3, the Distiller Assistant would keep on eye on the watched folders without having Distiller open. I can't seem to find out how to get this to work with A4 which seems to need Distiller running. Any suggestions? -BR And before I forget-- Aandi, Jason, and all the rest: THANK YOU! This list is proving to be the most effective PDF technical resource I've ever come across. Thanks for all the butt-saving advice. Who knows, someday I might have something I could kick-in too (besides my butt!). And with that segue [g], here's a little trick that I discovered that may (or may not) be new to other readers: Problem: Simulating paper colour on screen but removing it for printout. Solution: - Create small PDF of rectangle to match page colour, create a button icon form with this on a blank PDF page, set it to visible/noprint, and scale to cover page. Create a second form on top of this and use a PDF of the page you want printed with its fill set to none. It's only an approximation and doesn't reflect the true colour of photos (or inks) on a coloured stock, but it kinda does the trick. Best for pastels and cream-coloured stock emulations. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Sep-2000 15:37:38-GMT,2871;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12104 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:37:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27817; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:29:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:24:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27431; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:24:19 -0500 Received: from pdgsi.com (sugind.tusco.net [209.57.212.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27403 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:24:13 -0500 Received: from 1240 [209.57.212.6] by pdgsi.com [209.57.225.236] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.1.R) for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:19:54 -0400 From: "Dave Miller" To: "Pdf@Lists. Pdfzone. Com" Subject: [PDF] Clearing Form Field Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:23:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-MDRcpt-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-MDRemoteIP: 209.57.212.6 X-Return-Path: dnmiller@pdgsi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I have a number of form fields named like this; "label.one", "label.two", "label.three", etc. I can show and hide these fields with a single variable by doing this, var a = this.getField("label"); a.hidden = true; Can I set the value of the same fields using the same method? i.e.; var b = this.getField("label"); b.value = "Something"; Is this possible? Thanks so much, Dave Miller. P.S. >Bob Roach wrote: >And before I forget-- Aandi, Jason, and all the rest: THANK YOU! This list is proving to be >the most effective PDF technical resource I've ever come across. Thanks for all the butt-saving >advice. Who knows, someday I might have something I could kick-in too (besides my butt!). I second the motion! Kudos to Aandi, Max, George, Norm, Don and many others. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Sep-2000 17:13:01-GMT,2517;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15150 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:13:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00803; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:51:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:44:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00271; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:44:43 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00267 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:44:42 -0500 From: geojohn@att.net Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.28]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000922164442.KXZU4901.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:44:42 +0000 Received: from [12.72.136.215] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:44:41 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Clearing Form Field Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:44:41 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: geojohn@att.net Message-Id: <20000922164442.KXZU4901.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I have a number of form fields named like this; > "label.one", "label.two", "label.three", etc. I can > show and hide these fields with a single variable > by doing this, > var a = this.getField("label"); > a.hidden = true; > > Can I set the value of the same fields using the same > method? i.e.; > var b = this.getField("label"); > b.value = "Something"; > > Is this possible? Try this: var f = this.getField("label"); var a = f.getArray(); for (i = 0; i < a.length; i++) a[i].value = "Bogus"; George Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Sep-2000 17:43:19-GMT,2704;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15948 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03843; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:33:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:27:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03299; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:27:42 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03294 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:27:39 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28240; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:27:36 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:20:40 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Clearing Form Field Cc: "Dave Miller" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dave, you'd have to try it out. I have some doubts, but actually not tried it before. A groupwise reset is possible, however. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >I have a number of form fields named like this; "label.one", "label.two", >"label.three", etc. I can show and hide these fields with a single variable >by doing this, >var a = this.getField("label"); >a.hidden = true; > >Can I set the value of the same fields using the same method? i.e.; >var b = this.getField("label"); >b.value = "Something"; > >Is this possible? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Sep-2000 19:19:23-GMT,2855;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18763 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:19:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10195; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:07:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:01:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09868; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:01:50 -0500 Received: from jazzmail01.allegronet.net (jazzmail01.allegronet.net [204.253.83.174]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09864 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:01:48 -0500 Received: from p209-238.atnt1.isdn.dal1.flash.net ([209.30.209.238]) by mhs.allegronet.net with SMTP id 026C6B56; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:01:05 -0500 Received: from HRC#u#Domain-Message_Server by hrcorp.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:58:41 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:56:53 -0500 From: Sadia Sheikh To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] bmp to pdf - HELP! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-HOP-COUNT: 1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have a form which I scan and save it as a bmp. This I send to the Acrobat Distiller for the pdf to be created. But when I print out that pdf, it tells me that there's not enough memory for the whole 1 page document to print, therefore it stops printing half way. Anybody know how I can scan a whole page, save it as a pdf which is a descent size so it'll print? Sadia Sheikh Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Sep-2000 20:02:09-GMT,2328;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19949 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:02:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13776; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:52:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:48:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13390; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:48:06 -0500 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13374 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:48:03 -0500 From: SandyHov@aol.com Received: from SandyHov@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id j.a3.ba1c720 (3928) for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:45:48 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] bmp to pdf - HELP! To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ You're probably scanning at too high a resolution and/or in a format you don't need. Is it a black and white form? If so, be sure you're scanning it as line art. Only use grayscale or color if you absolutely have to have shading/color. Also, crop off any unused white space around the form making the image area smaller and thus the file size smaller. What dpi are you scanning at? You might experiment with this a little, but if your final output plan is for print, you may be able to get away with as little as 150 dpi or need as much as 300 dpi. Good luck, Sandy Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Sep-2000 20:24:10-GMT,3483;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20519 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:24:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15737; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:14:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:10:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15347; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:10:08 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15339 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:10:05 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26469; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 22:10:02 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:54:51 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] bmp to pdf - HELP! Cc: Sadia Sheikh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Sadia, what kind of printer do you have? What kind of computer, how much free RAM, how much free space on the system partition? Then, what is the resolution of the scan, how many colors, what printer driver was used, what were the Distiller settings? Now, something from the soapbox: Scanning forms and then thinking that they make good electronic forms has been some kind of a serious misunderstanding. One has to know the processes quite well, in order to achieve halfway satisfactory results with scans. In fact, it is in (almost) any case highly recommended to go to the original data of the form, or, if it no longer exists or never has existed, recreate it with an appropriate layout software. Text will be text, and no longer a pile of more or less colored pixels. Lines will be lines etc. Recreating will in any case lead to better result and also be quicker to display and print. And now, stepping down from the sandbox... Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >I have a form which I scan and save it as a bmp. This I send to the >Acrobat Distiller for the pdf to be created. But when I print out >that pdf, it tells me that there's not enough memory for the whole 1 >page document to print, therefore it stops printing half way. >Anybody know how I can scan a whole page, save it as a pdf which is >a descent size so it'll print? 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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:05:50 -0000 Message-ID: <003001c024d8$e36d4960$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I have a form which I scan and save it as a bmp. This I send > to the Acrobat Distiller for the pdf to be created. But when > I print out that pdf, it tells me that there's not enough > memory for the whole 1 page document to print, therefore it > stops printing half way. Anybody know how I can scan a whole > page, save it as a pdf which is a descent size so it'll print? This may be a shortage of RAM in the printer. What kind of printer is it, and how much RAM does it have (if known)? Plus: what is the exact text of the error message? Aandi Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Sep-2000 21:44:32-GMT,2412;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22778 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:44:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22011; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:35:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:28:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21434; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:28:08 -0500 Received: from jazzmail01.allegronet.net (jazzmail01.allegronet.net [204.253.83.174]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21424 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:28:07 -0500 Received: from p209-197.atnt1.isdn.dal1.flash.net ([209.30.209.197]) by mhs.allegronet.net with SMTP id 026C8747; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:27:09 -0500 Received: from HRC#u#Domain-Message_Server by hrcorp.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:16:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:16:37 -0500 From: Sadia Sheikh To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] bmp to pdf - HELP! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-HOP-COUNT: 1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ To those who responded. Thank you in advance. I've gotten the scanner to scan it somewhat like I want it. But then I take that image into Photoshop and convert it into a pdf which now prints all of it. Problem: When creating the pdf, there is an unprintable area, leaving a margin of about .25 off of the page. I've tried resetting this to 0's on all 4 sides to allow the print job to cover the full page. But it still leaves some space. I cannot bypass this. I would like no edges left on the page. Is that possible? Sadia Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Sep-2000 22:54:14-GMT,7048;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24532 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:54:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26199; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:41:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:37:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25836; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:37:29 -0500 Received: from jazzmail01.allegronet.net (jazzmail01.allegronet.net [204.253.83.174]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25832 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:37:28 -0500 Received: from p209-197.atnt1.isdn.dal1.flash.net ([209.30.209.197]) by mhs.allegronet.net with SMTP id 026C905D; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:37:01 -0500 Received: from HRC#u#Domain-Message_Server by hrcorp.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:19:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:19:21 -0500 From: Sadia Sheikh To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] bmp to pdf - HELP! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-HOP-COUNT: 1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ You're right, Max. I might just have to recreate the whole thing. It's just that the client that needs this form needs it to perfection (to the millimeter) because their scanner reads text off of certain positions from this form. Sadia >>> Max Wyss 09/22 2:54 PM >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Sadia, what kind of printer do you have? What kind of computer, how much free RAM, how much free space on the system partition? Then, what is the resolution of the scan, how many colors, what printer driver was used, what were the Distiller settings? Now, something from the soapbox: Scanning forms and then thinking that they make good electronic forms has been some kind of a serious misunderstanding. One has to know the processes quite well, in order to achieve halfway satisfactory results with scans. In fact, it is in (almost) any case highly recommended to go to the original data of the form, or, if it no longer exists or never has existed, recreate it with an appropriate layout software. Text will be text, and no longer a pile of more or less colored pixels. Lines will be lines etc. Recreating will in any case lead to better result and also be quicker to display and print. And now, stepping down from the sandbox... Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >I have a form which I scan and save it as a bmp. This I send to the >Acrobat Distiller for the pdf to be created. But when I print out >that pdf, it tells me that there's not enough memory for the whole 1 >page document to print, therefore it stops printing half way. >Anybody know how I can scan a whole page, save it as a pdf which is >a descent size so it'll print? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ! ! ! Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Sep-2000 0:08:01-GMT,2965;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26303 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:08:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31255; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:58:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:53:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30986; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:53:46 -0500 Received: from nt_svr_1.godbe.com (mail.godbe.com [63.194.153.210]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA30982 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:53:45 -0500 Received: by nt_svr_1.godbe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:44:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Erica Frye To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] cross-application links Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:44:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Subject: Can't open cross-app links from an Acrobat Reader I have created a CD of marketing materials. The key file on the CD is list of files, and each file has a link to both the actual document and a pdf for viewing. The documents were created in Quark, Word, PowerPoint, and Acrobat. The CD needs to work on both Mac and Windows platforms. The files were all created on a Mac platform. Viewed on a Mac platform, all links work to all files. Reader asks me if I want to allow the new application to launch, and after clicking okay everything works fine. However, viewed on a pc platform, the links work to the pdf files, but not to any other document types. I have tried it on several pc machines. It recognizes the entire path, but says it can't open the document. I have set the preferences to allow open file links and to open cross-doc links in a new window, but I can't find any other prefs that deal with links. My intuition says it is a Windows or Reader setting that prevents Reader from opening a new application through a link. I'm not as comfortable on a pc platform so I could be overlooking something simple. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks Erica Frye Godbe Communications Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Sep-2000 8:01:34-GMT,6024;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04821 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 02:01:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA21263; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 02:53:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 23 Sep 2000 02:48:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20947; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 02:48:36 -0500 Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20943 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 02:48:34 -0500 Received: from m692-mp1-cvx1b.gui.ntl.com ([62.252.10.180]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000923074828.DXGK19246.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@m692-mp1-cvx1b.gui.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 08:48:28 +0100 Received: by m692-mp1-cvx1b.gui.ntl.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C02539.FBFE8960@m692-mp1-cvx1b.gui.ntl.com>; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 08:40:53 +0100 Message-ID: <01C02539.FBFE8960@m692-mp1-cvx1b.gui.ntl.com> From: Andy Jones To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] bmp to pdf - HELP! Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 08:38:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01C02539.FC07B120" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ ------ =_NextPart_000_01C02539.FC07B120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually, If you are scanning it as a bi-level bitmap (lineart to you) = then you would be better off scanning it at a resolution of between = 800-1200spi. If your scanner can go higher then that would be even = better. We scan lineart for our books at 2400spi. This is all irrelevant though as I agree with Max. You would be better = off going to a page layout program like Quark Xpress or Adobe Pagemaker = and recreating the form. Maybe then you could just import the data into = the form then create your PDF instead of scanning different forms to = create the PDF. When you print your final page (or create a PDF) your = final quality will be much better than from using a scan of a form. 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Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 08:44:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01C0253A.8217C2A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ ------ =_NextPart_000_01C0253A.8217C2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, having no margins on the page is possible. Unfortunately you have to have an basic understanding of either = PostScript code or programming structures. If you open up your PostScript Printer Driver (which should be a text = file) you should be able to find a section on margins. Basically, all = you have to do is alter the settings for this section. Before you do this though, rename a copy of your driver extension to = .old just in case you make a mistake bigtime.=20 Hope this helps. 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Reader > asks me if I > want to allow the new application to launch, and after clicking okay > everything works fine. > > However, viewed on a pc platform, the links work to the pdf > files, but not > to any other document types. Have you set the file types correctly for Windows? Windows uses only the last part of the file name to decide what program to launch. 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Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 1:27:24-GMT,2347;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15215 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:27:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23854; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 20:06:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:57:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22885; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:57:41 -0500 Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22880 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:57:40 -0500 Received: from 209.245.41.165 (dialup-209.245.41.165.SanDiego1.Level3.net [209.245.41.165]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA26363 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 17:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009250057.RAA26363@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: 24 Sep 00 18:14:48 -0700 From: "B2 Fass-Holmes" Subject: [PDF] ISICopy To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA22881 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >There is a very useful and FREE plug-in available from Image Solutions, called ISICopy, that can copy a graphic >image from the PDF page to the clipboard >You can read about this free plug-in at: http://www.imagesolutions.com/isi_software.htm Is this plug-in available for Macintosh? The above URL is lethal in my hands (Communicator 4.7 on MacOS 8.6)! Barry F-H Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 10:35:08-GMT,3131;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24676 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 04:35:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06461; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 05:25:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 05:19:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA05979; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 05:19:22 -0500 Received: from mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (mail2.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.41]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05974 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 05:19:21 -0500 Received: from [24.43.209.211] by mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000925101916.JEC6858.mail2.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.43.209.211]> for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 03:19:16 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 06:18:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] ISICopy From: Jason Belec To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200009250057.RAA26363@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Every copy of Reader and Acrobat and Business Tools also does this by default. -- Jason Belec :)~ pdfworkflows@home.com Digital Workflows Specialist, (613) 824-2243 EST especially PDF "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training PDF Course Instructor CEO & President Document Computing Institute NOITAMINANIMATION ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Articles of interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web site of interest: http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf >> There is a very useful and FREE plug-in available from Image Solutions, >> called ISICopy, that can copy a graphic >image from the PDF page to the >> clipboard > >> You can read about this free plug-in at: >> http://www.imagesolutions.com/isi_software.htm > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 14:59:30-GMT,3651;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29756 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27761; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:43:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:39:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27371; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:39:03 -0500 Received: from pdgsi.com (sugind.tusco.net [209.57.212.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27361 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:39:00 -0500 Received: from 1240 [209.57.212.6] by pdgsi.com [209.57.225.236] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.1.R) for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:35:27 -0400 From: "Dave Miller" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Clearing Form Field Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:38:52 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-MDRcpt-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-MDRemoteIP: 209.57.212.6 X-Return-Path: dnmiller@pdgsi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Max, Sorry, I should have stated that I tried the code I posted. I thought maybe I was missing something obvious. Thanks, Dave Miller. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Max Wyss > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 1:21 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: Dave Miller > Subject: Re: [PDF] Clearing Form Field > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Dave, > > you'd have to try it out. I have some doubts, but actually not tried > it before. A groupwise reset is possible, however. > > Hope, this can help. > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering > Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch > http://www.prodok.ch > > > > [ Building Bridges for Information ] > > > ______________________ > > > > > > >I have a number of form fields named like this; "label.one", "label.two", > >"label.three", etc. I can show and hide these fields with a > single variable > >by doing this, > >var a = this.getField("label"); > >a.hidden = true; > > > >Can I set the value of the same fields using the same method? i.e.; > >var b = this.getField("label"); > >b.value = "Something"; > > > >Is this possible? > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 15:41:36-GMT,3885;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00960 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:41:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31704; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:30:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:25:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31350; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:25:29 -0500 Received: from jazzmail01.allegronet.net (jazzmail01.allegronet.net [204.253.83.174]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31343 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:25:27 -0500 Received: from p209-145.atnt1.isdn.dal1.flash.net ([209.30.209.145]) by mhs.allegronet.net with SMTP id 026D711F; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:24:47 -0500 Received: from HRC#u#Domain-Message_Server by hrcorp.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:13:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:12:42 -0500 From: Sadia Sheikh To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: RE: RE: [PDF] bmp to pdf - HELP! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-HOP-COUNT: 1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Interesting idea, Andy. I've looked for the PostScript Printer Driver you are talking about: *.txt but the closes thing I found to it was Rundirex.txt - No where does it specify margins though. BTW, everybody, It's REALLY nice to get so many responses back. I've been learning a little something from all. Thanks :-) Sadia >>> Andy Jones 09/23 2:44 AM >>> Yes, having no margins on the page is possible. Unfortunately you have to have an basic understanding of either PostScript code or programming structures. If you open up your PostScript Printer Driver (which should be a text file) you should be able to find a section on margins. Basically, all you have to do is alter the settings for this section. Before you do this though, rename a copy of your driver extension to .old just in case you make a mistake bigtime. Hope this helps. Andy Jones HackenSlash Graphics. ! Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 17:06:15-GMT,2358;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03603 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:06:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03213; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:19:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:15:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02789; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:15:06 -0500 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02773 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:15:02 -0500 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA12573 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:15:24 +0100 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: RE: RE: [PDF] bmp to pdf - HELP! Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:14:59 -0000 Message-ID: <000201c02714$25931800$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Interesting idea, Andy. I've looked for the PostScript > Printer Driver you are talking about: *.txt but the closes > thing I found to it was Rundirex.txt - No where does it > specify margins though. The file you are looking for is associated with the driver. It is indeed text but not *.TXT. It is a *.PPD file. After editing, you must reinstall the driver. Aandi Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 17:44:20-GMT,2893;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04775 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:44:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08178; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:27:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:22:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07856; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:22:18 -0500 Received: from nt_svr_1.godbe.com (mail.godbe.com [63.194.153.210]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07852 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:22:17 -0500 Received: by nt_svr_1.godbe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:12:24 -0700 Message-ID: From: Erica Frye To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] cross-application links Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:12:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ All files have DOS names and extensions, and the actual documents can be opened by double-clicking so the file names are okay. I just can't open them through the links. > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 3:27 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] cross-application links > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Viewed on a Mac platform, all links work to all files. Reader > > asks me if I > > want to allow the new application to launch, and after clicking okay > > everything works fine. > > > > However, viewed on a pc platform, the links work to the pdf > > files, but not > > to any other document types. > > Have you set the file types correctly for Windows? Windows uses > only the last part of the file name to decide what program > to launch. > > Aandi > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 17:56:24-GMT,2318;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05165 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:56:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09581; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:44:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:40:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09284; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:40:34 -0500 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09251 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:40:29 -0500 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA12679 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:40:52 +0100 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] cross-application links Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:40:29 -0000 Message-ID: <000301c02720$14eeb980$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > All files have DOS names and extensions, and the actual > documents > can be opened by > double-clicking so the file names are okay. I just > can't open them through the links. Does anything happen at all? Any message? If you have Windows Acrobat, what does it show if you inspect the link? Aandi Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 18:12:22-GMT,2677;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05690 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:12:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10326; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:51:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:47:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09924; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:47:38 -0500 Received: from mail4.lig.bellsouth.net (mail4.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.32]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09920 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:47:37 -0500 From: scla@earthlink.net Received: from 216.78.180.15 (adsl-78-180-15.lft.bellsouth.net [216.78.180.15]) by mail4.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id NAA06244 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009251747.NAA06244@mail4.lig.bellsouth.net> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] custom form Date: 25 Sep 2000 12:48:16 -0800 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.2.0.1552 X-ID: 551E18F9145F4049B6480FADCFABF392 X-Brand: NeoPlanet X-Build: 1552 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hey Guys, Got a situation. I have a customer who sells about 200 different products (medical/first aid medications). Iam doing the web site. They prefer not to have a traditional shopping cart but an order form. From the order form they what their client to be able to check (or select) one type of medication or item at a time. For instance put a check mark for Advil 500mg, two boxes. Prices need not be displayed. Now, after their client checks off maybe 20 different items from their inventory of about 200 items, we need the 20 items displayed on one page with their clients name, address, account number, etc. This one page is to be fax or printed then faxed or emailed back to my client. No credit card transaction, just purchase order stuff. What will it take to do something like this. Would a PDF for do it. Scottie Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 18:52:44-GMT,3265;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06906 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:52:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13353; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:33:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:29:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12995; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:29:00 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12991 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:28:59 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29499; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:28:48 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200009251747.NAA06244@mail4.lig.bellsouth.net> References: <200009251747.NAA06244@mail4.lig.bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:19:00 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] custom form Cc: scla@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Scottie, such a scenario is what I have done a few times for clients. This PDF-based shopping cart solution works well off-line and on-line (as it uses quite a few resources, it works better when Acrobat is not run under a web browser). For quotes and further informations, feel free to contact me by private e-mail. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >Got a situation. I have a customer who sells about 200 different >products (medical/first aid medications). Iam doing the web site. >They prefer not to have a traditional shopping cart but an order >form. From the order form they what their client to be able to check >(or select) one type of medication or item at a time. For instance >put a check mark for Advil 500mg, two boxes. Prices need not be >displayed. Now, after their client checks off maybe 20 different >items from their inventory of about 200 items, we need the 20 items >displayed on one page with their clients name, address, account >number, etc. This one page is to be fax or printed then faxed or >emailed back to my client. No credit card transaction, just purchase >order stuff. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 20:11:44-GMT,2873;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09422 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:11:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20010; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:01:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:57:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19482; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:57:30 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19474 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:57:26 -0500 From: geojohn@att.net Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.28]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000925195716.HVD3176.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:57:16 +0000 Received: from [12.82.133.210] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:57:16 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] custom form Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:57:16 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: geojohn@att.net Message-Id: <20000925195716.HVD3176.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > From the order form they what their client to be able > to check (or select) one type of medication or item at > a time. For instance put a check mark for Advil 500mg, > two boxes. Prices need not be displayed. Now, after > their client checks off maybe 20 different items from > their inventory of about 200 items, we need the 20 > items displayed on one page with their clients name, > address, account number, etc. This one page is to be > fax or printed then faxed or emailed back to my > client. No credit card transaction, just purchase > order stuff. > > What will it take to do something like this. Would a > PDF for do it. On the Acrobat 4 CD is a sample PDF named "store.pdf" that does something like what you want. Some elements that make it work are on a hidden template, so you'll want to make it visible so you can study how the JavaScript works. George Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 20:12:59-GMT,4148;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09483 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:12:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19426; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:57:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:52:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19137; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:52:05 -0500 Received: from mail6.lig.bellsouth.net (mail6.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.91]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19133 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:52:04 -0500 From: scla@earthlink.net Received: from 216.78.180.15 (adsl-78-180-15.lft.bellsouth.net [216.78.180.15]) by mail6.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id PAA04852 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009251952.PAA04852@mail6.lig.bellsouth.net> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] custom form Date: 25 Sep 2000 14:52:26 -0800 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.2.0.1552 X-ID: 551E18F9145F4049B6480FADCFABF392 X-Brand: NeoPlanet X-Build: 1552 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hey Max, It is wonderful that because of the internet and computers, you could do business way across the oceans. That's beautiful. Yes, I would love to see what PDFs you have done as far as collecting data from a database. How do we proceed? The form must be emailable, printable and faxable. Scottie > ** Original Subject: RE: [PDF] custom form > ** Original Sender: Max Wyss > ** Original Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:36:12 -0700 (PDT) > ** Original Message follows... > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Scottie, > > such a scenario is what I have done a few times for clients. This > PDF-based shopping cart solution works well off-line and on-line (as > it uses quite a few resources, it works better when Acrobat is not > run under a web browser). > > For quotes and further informations, feel free to contact me by private e-mail. > > Hope, this can help. > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering > Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch > http://www.prodok.ch > > > > [ Building Bridges for Information ] > > > ______________________ > > > > > > >Got a situation. I have a customer who sells about 200 different > >products (medical/first aid medications). Iam doing the web site. > >They prefer not to have a traditional shopping cart but an order > >form. From the order form they what their client to be able to check > >(or select) one type of medication or item at a time. For instance > >put a check mark for Advil 500mg, two boxes. Prices need not be > >displayed. Now, after their client checks off maybe 20 different > >items from their inventory of about 200 items, we need the 20 items > >displayed on one page with their clients name, address, account > >number, etc. This one page is to be fax or printed then faxed or > >emailed back to my client. No credit card transaction, just purchase > >order stuff. > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 21:27:03-GMT,2585;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12042 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:27:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25957; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:17:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:12:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25635; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:12:40 -0500 Received: from ldihouexch2.stewart.com (smtp.stewart.com [199.253.18.74]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25629 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:12:39 -0500 Received: by smtp.stewart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:13:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Kim Wallace To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Embedding Links in Word97 with PDFMark Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:12:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi all. I need help implementing links in a Word 97 file. I generate my PDFs using the "Create PDF" macro. I want to create a navigation bar in the header, inserting graphics that link to different parts of the document when clicked. The header is set up, and I understand how to insert the PRINT field for adding the link command, but am having difficulties with: - Placement of the link rectangles - Understanding how the PRINT field options work (\p para, etc) - How to use the Word-defined variables Also, once I have this set up, will the links repeat since they are in the header? I have T. Merz's pdfmark Primer at hand, but I think I need some more examples. Looking forward to your responses. Kim Wallace Landata Systems 713.871.9222 kwallace@stewart.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 21:43:33-GMT,2895;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12508 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:43:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27289; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:32:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:28:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26881; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:28:07 -0500 Received: from iglou.com (sendmail@iglou1.iglou.com [192.107.41.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26874 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:28:04 -0500 Received: from [216.196.136.54] (helo=thinkpad) by iglou.com with smtp (8.9.3/8.9.3) id 13dfn3-0004kT-00; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:27:57 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000925173059.009b8a50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:30:59 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] bmp to pdf - HELP! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >I have a form which I scan and save it as a bmp. This I send to the Acrobat Distiller for the pdf to be created. But when I print out that pdf, it tells me that there's not enough memory for the whole 1 page document to print, therefore it stops printing half way. Anybody know how I can scan a whole page, save it as a pdf which is a descent size so it'll print? Send to Distiller how? And on what platform? A quick WAG: Windows and you're dragging the BMP to the Distiller icon. If so, Windows is launching whatever app thinks it owns BMP files to do the printing. It may be launching that half-wit, MS PhotoEdit. PhotoEdit's major claim to fame seems to be its ability to think it's run out of memory at the least provocation. Try opening or placing the BMP in some other app. Nearly ANYTHING will do, so long as it's not this particular of soft(headed)ware. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap/ Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 21:51:24-GMT,2921;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12745 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:51:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27842; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:37:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:33:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27434; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:33:38 -0500 Received: from nt_svr_1.godbe.com (mail.godbe.com [63.194.153.210]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27429 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:33:36 -0500 Received: by nt_svr_1.godbe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:23:42 -0700 Message-ID: From: Erica Frye To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] cross-application links Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:23:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I figured it out, and it was something stupid. I had a folder with nine characters instead of eight and Windows truncated it, making my path impossible to follow. I went back in to recreate the error so I could answer the below question, and I saw the difference in the path. It's all working now. Thanks for the nudge... Erica > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:40 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] cross-application links > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > All files have DOS names and extensions, and the actual > > documents > > can be opened by > > double-clicking so the file names are okay. I just > > can't open them through the links. > > Does anything happen at all? Any message? > > If you have Windows Acrobat, what does it show if you inspect > the link? > > Aandi > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 22:16:07-GMT,5736;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13369 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:16:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA30047; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:04:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:00:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29776; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:00:36 -0500 Received: from jazzmail01.allegronet.net (jazzmail01.allegronet.net [204.253.83.174]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29767 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:00:33 -0500 Received: from p209-130.atnt1.isdn.dal1.flash.net ([209.30.209.130]) by mhs.allegronet.net with SMTP id 026DCA1F; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:00:18 -0500 Received: from HRC#u#Domain-Message_Server by hrcorp.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:55:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:53:15 -0500 From: Sadia Sheikh To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] bmp to pdf - HELP! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline X-HOP-COUNT: 1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This problem is definately having to do with some kind of setup on my machine. I can print it out successfully on another machine here, therefore. The problem seems to be the connection to my printer. No sweat. Thanks. Sadia >>> Steve Rindsberg 09/25 4:30 PM >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >I have a form which I scan and save it as a bmp. This I send to the Acrobat Distiller for the pdf to be created. But when I print out that pdf, it tells me that there's not enough memory for the whole 1 page document to print, therefore it stops printing half way. Anybody know how I can scan a whole page, save it as a pdf which is a descent size so it'll print? Send to Distiller how? And on what platform? A quick WAG: Windows and you're dragging the BMP to the Distiller icon. If so, Windows is launching whatever app thinks it owns BMP files to do the printing. It may be launching that half-wit, MS PhotoEdit. PhotoEdit's major claim to fame seems to be its ability to think it's run out of memory at the least provocation. Try opening or placing the BMP in some other app. Nearly ANYTHING will do, so long as it's not this particular of soft(headed)ware. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap/ Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ! ! Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Sep-2000 23:47:55-GMT,3226;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15420 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:47:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03473; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:33:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:28:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02872; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:28:41 -0500 Received: from tsmtp1.mail.isp (mailhost.teleline.es [195.235.113.141] (may be forged)) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02868 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:28:39 -0500 Received: from terra ([213.4.45.33]) by tsmtp1.mail.isp (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id G1GUHM05.XU1 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 01:27:22 +0200 Message-ID: <005901c02747$870e5a80$e13afea9@terra.es> From: "La Oficina Sin Papel" To: References: Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding Links in Word97 with PDFMark Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 01:22:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Kim: Is it really important to have the links in the word file? Because if you are doing them in Word just to have them in the PDF file, why don't you do them in the PDF file directly? With Acrobat 4.0 you have good tools to make, copy, duplicate links and fields, etc. This links can hold a variety of different actions (inside). And they are very easy to implement. If doing them in Word is a must, this won't help you. Regards, Carlos > Hi all. > > I need help implementing links in a Word 97 file. I generate my PDFs using > the "Create PDF" macro. > > I want to create a navigation bar in the header, inserting graphics that > link to different parts of the document when clicked. > > The header is set up, and I understand how to insert the PRINT field for > adding the link command, but am having difficulties with: > > - Placement of the link rectangles > - Understanding how the PRINT field options work (\p para, etc) > - How to use the Word-defined variables > > Also, once I have this set up, will the links repeat since they are in the > header? > > I have T. Merz's pdfmark Primer at hand, but I think I need some more > examples. > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Sep-2000 5:58:35-GMT,5385;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22623 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:58:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA32761; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:41:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:33:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA31862; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:33:46 -0500 Received: from fssdomp4.fss.gov.ab.ca (ahrehost.fss.gov.ab.ca [199.213.255.149]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA31849 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:33:44 -0500 Received: from 61851 ([10.11.132.245]) by fssdomp4.fss.gov.ab.ca (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.4a) with SMTP id 2000092514052223:3773 ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:05:22 -0600 From: "Sue Dion" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] custom form Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:00:53 -0600 Message-ID: <000101c0272b$4f995620$f5840b0a@fss.gov.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on FSSDOMP4/FSS(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 09/25/2000 02:05:22 PM, Serialize by Router on FSSDOMP4/FSS(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 09/25/2000 11:32:31 PM, Serialize complete at 09/25/2000 11:32:31 PM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Max, I would be really interested in this as well - if you don't put the information on the pdf@lists, could you e-mail me with it! Thanks, Sue > -----Original Message----- > From: scla@earthlink.net [mailto:scla@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 4:52 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] custom form > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hey Max, > > It is wonderful that because of the internet and computers, you could do > business way across the oceans. That's beautiful. Yes, I would love to see > what PDFs you have done as far as collecting data from a database. How do > we proceed? The form must be emailable, printable and faxable. > > Scottie > > > > ** Original Subject: RE: [PDF] custom form > > ** Original Sender: Max Wyss > > ** Original Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:36:12 -0700 (PDT) > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Scottie, > > > > such a scenario is what I have done a few times for clients. This > > PDF-based shopping cart solution works well off-line and on-line (as > > it uses quite a few resources, it works better when Acrobat is not > > run under a web browser). > > > > For quotes and further informations, feel free to contact me by private > e-mail. > > > > Hope, this can help. > > > > > > Max Wyss > > PRODOK Engineering > > Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms > > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch > > http://www.prodok.ch > > > > > > > > [ Building Bridges for Information ] > > > > > > ______________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > >Got a situation. I have a customer who sells about 200 different > > >products (medical/first aid medications). Iam doing the web site. > > >They prefer not to have a traditional shopping cart but an order > > >form. From the order form they what their client to be able to check > > >(or select) one type of medication or item at a time. For instance > > >put a check mark for Advil 500mg, two boxes. Prices need not be > > >displayed. Now, after their client checks off maybe 20 different > > >items from their inventory of about 200 items, we need the 20 items > > >displayed on one page with their clients name, address, account > > >number, etc. This one page is to be fax or printed then faxed or > > >emailed back to my client. No credit card transaction, just purchase > > >order stuff. > > > > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > > > > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > > > > > > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Sep-2000 6:00:50-GMT,2156;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22682 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01629; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:54:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:48:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00892; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:48:50 -0500 Received: from mail1.scotsman.com (smadmin@mail1.scotsman.com [194.61.49.10]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00884 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:48:48 -0500 Received: from mx1 (nwcl1.scotsman.com [172.16.41.1]) by mail1.scotsman.com with SMTP id e8Q6nsR27927 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:49:54 GMT Received: from TSPL_EDN-Message_Server by mx1 with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:48:57 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:48:37 +0100 From: "Drew King" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-26-2000 [V2 #895] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id AAA00886 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am on holiday and will be back in the office on Monday, October 2. For any urgent requests please contact Andy MacDonald who will deputise in my absence. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Sep-2000 12:57:49-GMT,3391;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29880 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:57:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30844; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:46:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:41:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30531; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:41:02 -0500 Received: from ns.nternet.net (root@ns.nternet.net [64.92.64.14]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30522 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:40:56 -0500 Received: from nternet.net (JAX-TNT3-pool1-105.coastalnet.com [216.10.175.105]) by ns.nternet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14515 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:40:54 -0400 Message-ID: <39D099DE.DE85CE08@nternet.net> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:43:10 -0400 From: "Michael Kies, Delex NKT" Organization: Delex Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-26-2000 [V2 #895] References: <200009260533.AAA31881@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Kim, I just recently went through this whole process, creating several PDFmarks for my Word documents. A couple things I noted: 1. PDFmarks placed in the header will show up on each page 2. Word does not use points to measure position on the page. It uses "twips", with the origin in the upper left-hand corner. 3. PDFmarks can be placed anywhere in the document, although anything specific to a page must be on that page (or in the header or footer). 4. PDFmarks can also be inserted into an .eps file, with the .eps file placed in the word document. Placement depends on how the PDFmark is written, e.g. does it include a position and size I'll send you some examples via private e-mail. Good luck. Michael Kies Delex Systems, Inc. Kim Wallace wrote: I need help implementing links in a Word 97 file. I generate my PDFs using the "Create PDF" macro. I want to create a navigation bar in the header, inserting graphics that link to different parts of the document when clicked. The header is set up, and I understand how to insert the PRINT field for adding the link command, but am having difficulties with: - Placement of the link rectangles - Understanding how the PRINT field options work (\p para, etc) - How to use the Word-defined variables Also, once I have this set up, will the links repeat since they are in the header? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Sep-2000 13:48:48-GMT,3104;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00882 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:48:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01550; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:36:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:32:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01274; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:32:21 -0500 Received: from irvexch1.sota.com (exchange.stateoftheart.com [63.87.136.19]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01270 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:32:19 -0500 Received: by IRVEXCH1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:26:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedding Links in Word97 with PDFMark Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:26:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Kim, I do this all the time. I create an .eps file for my pdfmark commands, this can be done with a text editor, and then insert as a picture it into the header. I then format the picture to make it the same size as my document and move it behind the text. It's really rather simple to set up, and once you've set it up, it's easy to maintain and saves a lot of work, especially if you were going into Acrobat to create your links. One way I've found to get my link borders, 1. Print and distill your template, including the navigation bar. (You might find it easier to work with by setting the option to "ASCII Format".) 2. Go into Acrobat create your links, save, and exit. 3. Open your pdf file in a text editor and search on /Rect, there you will find the rect boundaries. (You may want to create the links one at a time.) Hope this helps, if not feel free to contact me. Randy Johnston Developer Support Services Sage Software, Inc. 800.854.3415 ext. 4380 -----Original Message----- From: Kim Wallace [mailto:KWallace@stewart.com] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:13 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Embedding Links in Word97 with PDFMark The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Sep-2000 15:05:14-GMT,3377;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02700 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:05:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06695; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:43:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:39:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06208; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:39:36 -0500 Received: from iglou.com (sendmail@iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.8]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06204 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:39:35 -0500 Received: from [216.196.136.142] (helo=thinkpad) by iglou.com with smtp (8.9.3/8.9.3) id 13dvtN-0003BY-00; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:39:33 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000926105312.00980870@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:53:12 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Embedding Links in Word97 with PDFMark In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >The header is set up, and I understand how to insert the PRINT field for >adding the link command, but am having difficulties with: > > - Placement of the link rectangles > - Understanding how the PRINT field options work (\p para, etc) > - How to use the Word-defined variables > Personally, I'd skip all the Word print field nonsense. Use the examples in Merz' book to create *very* simple little EPS files that do no more than create the links you want, one EPS per link. Make the bounding box of the EPS 0 0 72 72 (1" square). Create your nav bar graphic in Illustrator or Draw or the like, and import the link EPS files, position them atop the buttons or whatever graphics represent the links. Once they're in place, send them behind the graphic so the whole thing doesn't look too hideous on screen in Word. Save the whole rig as an EPS. Import that EPS into Word and put it in the header/footer/wherever. Since the PDFMark EPS stuff is inside the bigger graphics+PDFMark EPS, they all scale together, and the link rectangles scale with them. IOW, once it's done, you don't have to fool with Word's coordinates. >Also, once I have this set up, will the links repeat since they are in the >header? Yes. But you have to make the PDF via Distiller, not PDFWriter. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap/ Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Sep-2000 14:30:37-GMT,3522;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04256 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:30:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21735; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:17:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:07:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20928; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:07:43 -0500 Received: from mail6.lig.bellsouth.net (mail6.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.91]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20924 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:07:41 -0500 From: scla@earthlink.net Received: from 216.78.180.15 (adsl-78-180-15.lft.bellsouth.net [216.78.180.15]) by mail6.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id KAA09808 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009271407.KAA09808@mail6.lig.bellsouth.net> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: re: Re: [PDF] custom form Date: 27 Sep 2000 09:06:01 -0800 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.2.0.1552 X-ID: 551E18F9145F4049B6480FADCFABF392 X-Brand: NeoPlanet X-Build: 1552 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ George, That is exactly what we are looking for. Now where could I find a javascript writer to customize one like this for our products. Our products will be just in a list format (real simple, no photos). Scottie > ** Original Subject: Re: [PDF] custom form > ** Original Sender: geojohn@att.net > ** Original Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT) > ** Original Message follows... > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > From the order form they what their client to be able > > to check (or select) one type of medication or item at > > a time. For instance put a check mark for Advil 500mg, > > two boxes. Prices need not be displayed. Now, after > > their client checks off maybe 20 different items from > > their inventory of about 200 items, we need the 20 > > items displayed on one page with their clients name, > > address, account number, etc. This one page is to be > > fax or printed then faxed or emailed back to my > > client. No credit card transaction, just purchase > > order stuff. > > > > What will it take to do something like this. Would a > > PDF for do it. > > On the Acrobat 4 CD is a sample PDF named "store.pdf" > that does something like what you want. Some elements > that make it work are on a hidden template, so you'll > want to make it visible so you can study how the > JavaScript works. > > George > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Sep-2000 14:41:27-GMT,2156;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04584 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:41:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23846; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:33:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:28:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23101; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:28:04 -0500 Received: from mail1.scotsman.com (smadmin@mail1.scotsman.com [194.61.49.10]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23086 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:28:00 -0500 Received: from mx1 (nwcl1.scotsman.com [172.16.41.1]) by mail1.scotsman.com with SMTP id e8RFStR22402 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:28:55 GMT Received: from TSPL_EDN-Message_Server by mx1 with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:28:06 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:27:52 +0100 From: "Drew King" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for September-27-2000 [V2 #896] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA23088 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am on holiday and will be back in the office on Monday, October 2. For any urgent requests please contact Andy MacDonald who will deputise in my absence. Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Sep-2000 16:18:06-GMT,2421;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07393 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:18:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30361; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:11:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:06:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30020; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:06:09 -0500 Received: from smtpmail.cix.co.uk (smtpmail.cix.co.uk [194.153.0.21]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30016 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:06:07 -0500 Received: from compictserver.completepicture.co.uk (pauldennis.compulink.co.uk [194.153.15.12]) by smtpmail.cix.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20544; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:05:34 +0100 (BST) X-Envelope-From: Paul@CompletePicture.co.uk Received: by COMPICTSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:12:29 +0100 Message-ID: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CCCC@COMPICTSERVER> From: Paul To: "'Acrobat Talk'" , "'pdf zone'" Subject: [PDF] Epilogue.ps Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:12:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello all, Does anybody know if you can use the prologue/epilogue.ps files in distiller to globally change all the links default settings for each file processed e.g.. Change all links to invisible ? or set the file open defaults ? 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA05557 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible, say by javascript, to make an icon form that will, when activated, not only make a second icon form visible, but also force the second form to play its action lists and acquire 'focus'? -BR Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Sep-2000 18:43:26-GMT,1319;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from lbmail1.listbot.com (lbmail6.listbot.com [204.71.191.18]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA12115 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:43:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 33391 invoked by uid 0); 27 Sep 2000 18:42:03 -0000 Date: 27 Sep 2000 18:42:03 -0000 Message-ID: <970080123.22455.qmail@ech> Mailing-List: ListBot mailing list contact pdfzonewupdate-help@listbot.com From: "PDFzone World Update" Delivered-To: mailing list pdfzonewupdate@listbot.com To: ListBot Member Subject: You have been added to PDFzone World Update The owner of this list has moved it to ListBot. 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Cc: "Bob Roach" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Bob, it is possible to some extent. Note that the Acrobat imiplementation of JavaScript actually has no access to the machine's file system. However, one can assume that the choice of forms to be connected to is relatively limited. As it is possible to have a field(for example a button) trigger another document, it would be possilbe to hard-code the connections, and to use JavaScript to show the appropriate field ... from which the opening action will be triggered. Now, when working with more than one form, it is very best to immediately forget about the webserver environment (which means running Acrobat under a webbrowser). This would not work at all. In this case, one has to work with the forms locally, and then you don't have any limitations beyond the ones of the Acrobat viewer component you are using (Reader or a full version). In such a case, it is also possible for the forms to talk to each other. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >Is it possible, say by javascript, to make an icon form that will, >when activated, not only make a second icon form visible, but also >force the second form to play its action lists and acquire 'focus'? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Sep-2000 19:00:16-GMT,2774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12615 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:00:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09022; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:51:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:47:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08604; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:47:42 -0500 Received: from pdgsi.com (sugind.tusco.net [209.57.212.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08598 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:47:38 -0500 Received: from 1240 [209.57.212.6] by pdgsi.com [209.57.225.236] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.1.R) for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:43:38 -0400 From: "Dave Miller" To: "Pdf@Lists. Pdfzone. Com" Subject: [PDF] The else statement Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:47:26 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-MDRcpt-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-MDRemoteIP: 209.57.212.6 X-Return-Path: dnmiller@pdgsi.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, The following is a Custom Keystroke script in a Combo Box that works like this; if you select "Option 1" it displays "Option 1 Stuff" in MyField, if you select "Option 2" it displays "Option 2 Stuff" in Myfield and if you select anything else it displays "Did Not Choose Option 1 or 2" in MyField. (sorry for the longwinded explanation) =( So my only question is, is this the proper way to do it? Thanks, Dave Miller Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Sep-2000 19:17:11-GMT,2329;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13173 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:17:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10795; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:08:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:04:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10309; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:04:24 -0500 Received: from ldihouexch2.stewart.com (smtp.stewart.com [199.253.18.74]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10305 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:04:22 -0500 Received: by smtp.stewart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:05:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Kim Wallace To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] Summary: Embed Links in Word97 with PDFMark Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:05:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Many thanks to all who responded. I took the route suggested by Steve Rindsberg with a minor variation. Since I don't have a draw program, I edited the EPS graphics by hand, adding the pdfmark code for the links. Worked like a charm. Looking forward to doing more things with pdfmark. I was asked why not do the links in Acrobat. Since these files are very long (anticipating about 100 pages) it would be cumbersome to edit the links in Acrobat, page by page. Thanks again! Kim Wallace Landata Systems 713.871.9222 kwallace@stewart.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Sep-2000 19:17:35-GMT,2424;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13182 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:17:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10251; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:03:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:59:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09869; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:59:19 -0500 Received: from niagarac.on.ca (mail.niagara-college.com [192.197.62.37]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09862 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:59:17 -0500 Received: from NCGWDOMAIN1-Message_Server by niagarac.on.ca with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:53:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:52:39 -0400 From: "Bob Roach" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: prodok@prodok.ch Subject: Re: [PDF] Can a form trigger another form? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA09866 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >>>it is possible to have a field(for example a button) trigger another document, it would be possilbe to hard-code the connections, and to use JavaScript to show the appropriate field ... from which the opening action will be triggered. Sorry, Max-- let me clarify. I'm speaking of two forms on the same page embedded in a PDF document. It would have to work with a standard Acrobat Reader setup. I know I can make an icon button form 'show' another icon button form, but can you also essentially, 'trigger' the actions on the second button? -Bob Roach Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Sep-2000 20:06:18-GMT,2887;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14732 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:06:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13898; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:48:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:44:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13551; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:44:14 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13547 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:44:13 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00230; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:44:07 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:39:26 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Can a form trigger another form? Cc: "Bob Roach" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Bob, of course, you can trigger any JavaScript function with a form field action. In fact, you can trigger up to 10 or so actions in a row. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ > >>>it is possible to have a field(for example a button) trigger >another document, it would be possilbe to hard-code the connections, >and to use JavaScript to show the appropriate field ... from which >the opening action will be triggered. > >Sorry, Max-- let me clarify. I'm speaking of two forms on the same >page embedded in a PDF document. It would have to work with a >standard Acrobat Reader setup. I know I can make an icon button form >'show' another icon button form, but can you also essentially, >'trigger' the actions on the second button? Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Sep-2000 20:28:34-GMT,2414;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15497 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:28:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16639; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:22:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:17:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16316; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:17:37 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.49]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16312 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:17:36 -0500 From: geojohn@att.net Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.58]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000927201726.YXFU4085.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:17:26 +0000 Received: from [208.7.52.22] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:17:25 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Can a form trigger another form? Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:17:25 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: geojohn@att.net Message-Id: <20000927201726.YXFU4085.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > of course, you can trigger any JavaScript function > with a form field action. In fact, you can trigger up > to 10 or so actions in a row. But you cannot remotely "push" a button from an action somewhere else. For example, if "button 2" has a number of actions associated with the Mouse Up action, there's nothing in "button 1" you can do to trigger a Mouse Up event in "button 2". George Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Sep-2000 20:54:42-GMT,2748;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16277 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:54:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18465; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:47:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:43:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18166; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:43:29 -0500 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18162 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:43:28 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18547; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:43:26 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: prodok@pop.kpnqwest.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000927201726.YXFU4085.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.n et> References: <20000927201726.YXFU4085.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.n et> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:38:46 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Can a form trigger another form? Cc: geojohn@att.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ George, this is absolutely correct, but then, what prevents me from invoking the according function from my initial field? If I use functions, this is pretty simple, and as I have to set up some logic code anyway, I can invoke the function as well. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch http://www.prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >But you cannot remotely "push" a button from an action >somewhere else. > >For example, if "button 2" has a number of actions >associated with the Mouse Up action, there's nothing in >"button 1" you can do to trigger a Mouse Up event in >"button 2". 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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:58:27 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 2 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: geojohn@att.net Message-Id: <20000927205828.UGNP14966.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > this is absolutely correct, but then, what prevents me > from invoking the according function from my initial > field? If I use functions, this is pretty simple, and > as I have to set up some logic code anyway, I can > invoke the function as well. Max, That is a good way to do things and it would work if there were only JavaScript actions, but if there were additional actions, such as playing a sound, then you're stuck. I think this is what the original poster was asking about. 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I am testing PitStop Professional on my G4. When using the action list "Convert to CMYK" from inside Acrobat, all works very well. All images are converted to DeviceCMYK exactly as needed in my imagesetter. But when using this action list inside PitStop Professional, this is, as unattended server, registration marks are converted to white. Strange? I downloaded this action list from enfocus.de with a lot truly wonderful of action list for any kind of work. Jose E. Ochoa. Fotomecanica Ochoa. Julian Camarillo, 26. 28037 Madrid SPAIN Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Sep-2000 14:24:15-GMT,2245;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07665 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:24:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11543; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:16:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:10:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11047; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:10:30 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f142.hotmail.com [209.185.131.205]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11040 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:10:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:10:16 -0700 Received: from 216.63.9.201 by lw1fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:10:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.63.9.201] From: "John Wright" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Converting from TIFF to PDF on the fly using Java Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:10:16 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2000 14:10:16.0608 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3A41A00:01C02955] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know how to do this in Java or a place where someone has already done it? 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They are not on the > web but files > that need to be sent through email. Do each of the people > filling in these > forms need to have Acrobat 4.0 or is there a plug in for > Acrobat Reader that > will allow them to fill in the information and save the file > for email?? Acrobat Business Tools is sufficient. Reader cannot save forms, and Adobe strictly forbid anyone from writing a plug-in that can do this. Aandi Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Sep-2000 21:51:02-GMT,2428;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20555 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:51:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10888; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:43:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:39:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10567; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:39:10 -0500 Received: from prserv.net (out1.prserv.net [32.97.166.31]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10542 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:39:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200009282139.QAA10542@everglades.binc.net> Received: from slip-32-100-202-16.ma.us.prserv.net ([32.100.202.16]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2000092821385525201gni5ce>; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:38:57 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "postmaster@scotsman.com" Cc: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" , "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Date: Thu, 28 Sep 00 17:38:52 +0700 X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PDF] Wicked act Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:27:52 +0100 >From: "Drew King" >I am on holiday and will be back in the office on Monday, October 2. >For any urgent requests please contact Andy MacDonald who will deputise >in my absence. Dear Postmaster, Please turn off King's autoresponder and please also educate your staff never in future to do such a wicked thing as turning on an autoresponder to a mailing list. Thank you for your cooperation in maintaining standards and discipline. Jeffrey Race Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Sep-2000 21:51:13-GMT,2426;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20565 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:51:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10887; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:43:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:39:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10563; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:39:09 -0500 Received: from prserv.net (out1.prserv.net [32.97.166.31]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10536 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:39:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200009282139.QAA10536@everglades.binc.net> Received: from slip-32-100-202-16.ma.us.prserv.net ([32.100.202.16]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2000092821384625202rra5be>; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:38:47 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "postmaster@scotsman.com" Cc: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" , "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Date: Thu, 28 Sep 00 17:38:44 +0700 X-Mailer: PMMail 1.92 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PDF] Wicket act Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:27:52 +0100 >From: "Drew King" >I am on holiday and will be back in the office on Monday, October 2. >For any urgent requests please contact Andy MacDonald who will deputise >in my absence. Dear Postmaster, Please turn off King's autoresponder and please also educate your staff never in future to do such a wicked thing as turning on an autoresponder to a mailing list. Thank you for your cooperation in maintaining standards and discipline. Jeffrey Race Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Sep-2000 22:25:40-GMT,3327;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21409 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:25:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13123; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:11:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:07:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12766; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:07:16 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12755 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:07:10 -0500 Received: from merlin-os.demon.co.uk ([194.222.123.109]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13elpc-000EAz-0X for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:07:09 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:56:46 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Epilogue.ps In-Reply-To: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CCCC@COMPICTSERVER> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In message <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CCCC@COMPICTSERVER>, Paul wrote: >Does anybody know if you can use the prologue/epilogue.ps files in distiller >to globally change all the links default settings for each file processed >e.g.. Change all links to invisible ? or set the file open defaults ? If you are creating the links with pdfmark and the /ANN (or /LNK) parameter you should be able to force this to occur by redefining the pdfmark command in the prologue.ps file. As long as the PostScript being processed by Distiller does not specifically load the systemdict version of pdfmark this should work. In outline the code would be something like: % save original pdfmark /old_pdfmark systemdict /pdfmark get load def % define new pdfmark in current dictionary /pdfmark { ... code here to change visibility parameters for links ... % call original pdfmark old_pdfmark } bind def Hope you can fill in the details, else contact me privately. Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Sep-2000 23:38:08-GMT,3144;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23248 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:38:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17604; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:30:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:25:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17259; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:25:42 -0500 Received: from mail4.lig.bellsouth.net (mail4.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.32]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17245 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:25:33 -0500 From: scla@earthlink.net Received: from 216.78.180.15 (adsl-78-180-15.lft.bellsouth.net [216.78.180.15]) by mail4.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id TAA10695 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009282325.TAA10695@mail4.lig.bellsouth.net> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] interactive forms Date: 28 Sep 2000 18:19:57 -0800 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.2.0.1552 X-ID: 551E18F9145F4049B6480FADCFABF392 X-Brand: NeoPlanet X-Build: 1552 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hey Ginny Guy, We are looking for a pdf form like the one on the Acrobat CD. It is call store.pdf. Do you have something like it. Do you use javascripts in your forms. Yes, Acrobat Business Tools would do the job of saving pdf form data. It only cost about $79.00 each. It does every thing Acrobat does except make forms. Scottie > ** Original Subject: RE: [PDF] interactive forms > ** Original Sender: Sunshine Newspaper Printing-Ginny > ** Original Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:57:06 -0700 (PDT) > ** Original Message follows... > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > I have several interactive pdf forms. They are not on the web but files > that need to be sent through email. Do each of the people filling in these > forms need to have Acrobat 4.0 or is there a plug in for Acrobat Reader that > will allow them to fill in the information and save the file for email?? > > thanks > Ginny Guy > Sunshine Newspaper Printing > Lake Placid, Florida > > > Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Sep-2000 18:00:12-GMT,2623;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17687 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:00:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07917; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:47:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:37:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07291; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:37:26 -0500 Received: from tweety.alliedmachine.com (alliedmachine.com [206.69.132.13] (may be forged)) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07287 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:37:23 -0500 Received: from 10.96.11.51 by tweety.alliedmachine.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:35:09 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: from alliedmachine.com ([10.96.12.110]) by buzzard.alliedmachine.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 918 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:34:22 -0400 Message-ID: <39D4D2C8.8EE33754@alliedmachine.com> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:35:04 -0400 From: "Rob McKinley" Organization: Allied Machine & Engineering Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf action from web page References: <200009282325.TAA10695@mail4.lig.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Is there a way to open a pdf to a specific page or bookmark from an HTML or JavaScript link on a web page? We may want to refer to several locations within the same pdf document using separate links from the web page. What I really want to be able to do is to allow the user to use the bookmark function within their browser so that they don't have to repeat all of the clicks they went through to get to the pdf page the first time. Thanks for your help! -- Rob Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Sep-2000 20:42:05-GMT,2479;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22611 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17886; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:32:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:27:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17429; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:27:47 -0500 Received: from pilot29.cl.msu.edu (pilot29.cl.msu.edu [35.9.5.49]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17425 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:27:46 -0500 Received: from [35.8.123.229] ([35.8.123.229]) by pilot29.cl.msu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e8TKRiP30458 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:27:44 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:27:44 -0400 To: PDF Zone List From: Max Sa Leitao Subject: [PDF] CID fonts and Macintosh Acrobat 4.05a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I've received a PDF from a client which uses composite, 2-byte (CID) fonts. I'm using Acrobat 4.05a (Macintosh) and when I open the file I get a message that these fonts cannot be created. They are embedded, though. I've tried creating a ps file out of it and running that through Distiller, but then it says it "cannot embed the fonts in Acrobat 3.0 mode." Other than substituting the font in the original using Pitstop, is there a patch/plug-in that would allow my version of Acrobat to handle these fonts correctly? BTW, the font is Veljovic Italic, Book, Medium and Bold. No strange Asian characters or anything like that. Thanks, Max Max Sa Leitao Assistant Production Manager The State News, MSU saleitao@msu.edu Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Sep-2000 20:46:32-GMT,2084;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22753 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:46:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18845; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:40:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:36:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18230; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:36:10 -0500 Received: from smtpnew.quark.com (root@smtpnew.quark.com [206.195.78.16]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18216 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:36:08 -0500 Received: from denver.quark.com (denver.quark.com [206.195.71.192]) by smtpnew.quark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14278 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:49:39 -0600 Received: by denver.quark.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:35:40 -0600 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C08734A56@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Recall: [PDF] CID fonts and Macintosh Acrobat 4.05a Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:35:39 -0600 Expiry-Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 14:35:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Todd Reid would like to recall the message, "[PDF] CID fonts and Macintosh Acrobat 4.05a". Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Sep-2000 20:47:54-GMT,3419;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22810 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:47:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18822; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:40:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:35:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18143; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:35:49 -0500 Received: from smtpnew.quark.com (root@smtpnew.quark.com [206.195.78.16]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18110 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:35:39 -0500 Received: from denver.quark.com (denver.quark.com [206.195.71.192]) by smtpnew.quark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14269 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:49:10 -0600 Received: by denver.quark.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:35:11 -0600 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C08734A55@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] CID fonts and Macintosh Acrobat 4.05a Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:35:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Sounds like a PDF generated from InDesign (via a .ps file) then distilled either in Acrobat 3.x or 4.x with 3.0 compatibility set (PDF 1.2). Either way, sounds like you're hosed, unless you can get the original postscript and redistill as PDF 1.3. Todd -----Original Message----- From: Max Sa Leitao [mailto:saleitao@pilot.msu.edu] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 2:28 PM To: PDF Zone List Subject: [PDF] CID fonts and Macintosh Acrobat 4.05a The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I've received a PDF from a client which uses composite, 2-byte (CID) fonts. I'm using Acrobat 4.05a (Macintosh) and when I open the file I get a message that these fonts cannot be created. They are embedded, though. I've tried creating a ps file out of it and running that through Distiller, but then it says it "cannot embed the fonts in Acrobat 3.0 mode." Other than substituting the font in the original using Pitstop, is there a patch/plug-in that would allow my version of Acrobat to handle these fonts correctly? BTW, the font is Veljovic Italic, Book, Medium and Bold. No strange Asian characters or anything like that. Thanks, Max Max Sa Leitao Assistant Production Manager The State News, MSU saleitao@msu.edu Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the latest PDF News @ http://www.pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Sep-2000 21:39:08-GMT,2195;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24406 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:39:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23925; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:38:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:29:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22968; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:29:24 -0500 X-Originating-IP: [198.71.67.2] From: "Marina Sokolova" To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDFdev] banding problem with Acrobat PDFWriter Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:29:12 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Sep 2000 21:29:12.0187 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F484CB0:01C02A5C] Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ We got the problem using Acrobat PDFWriter. We send file in BMP fromat to Acrobat PDFWriter and get corrupted image at sub-band junction. I noticed the same problem with NT Imaging, but MS Word works fine. Can somebody help me? Best regards, Marina Sokolova _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer - Come and see AcroForms Advisor Kas Thomas' advice on better formatting scripts. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------