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The PC user will also need the updated filter. HTH, Todd Reid Quark, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Don Montalvo [mailto:Don.Montalvo@msdw.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 2:41 PM To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] QuarkXPress PDF Filter question Hi, We have users who need to place version 4 PDF's into Quark documents that may or may not have to be passed along to PC users to work on. Right now our users have PDF Filter 1.4, which only allows you to place version 3 PDF's. If we give our Mac users PDF Filter 1.51 so they can place version 4 PDF's, will the next user (probably on a PC) be able to work on that document? Will the PC user need an updated PDF Filter also? Don Montalvo Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jan-2001 18:39:26-GMT,2741;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06700 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:39:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27872; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:38:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:30:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27514; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:30:36 -0600 Received: from public.nfld.com (public.nfld.com [198.165.106.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27503 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:30:33 -0600 Received: from new (ts03-p14.remote.nfld.com [198.165.106.79]) by public.nfld.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f03IUV383582 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:00:31 -0330 (NST) (envelope-from ppehtla@nfld.com) From: "P. K.Pehtla" To: "Pdfzone" Subject: [PDF] Base 13 fonts Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:10:03 -0330 Message-ID: <000b01c075b4$961e38e0$4f6aa5c6@new> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I have made a pdf document (Acrobat 4) from Ventura 5. Unfortunately most of the fonts used are in the base 13 list. Now when I print from the pdf document to other systems with postscript printer, level 1 or an HP692 (non-postscript inkjet), both of which only have Times of the base 13 installed, I don't have any problems. However my client when he prints from his PC, printer unknown, the spacing in the text and headings is irregular -- ie text gets squished. Can anyone guide me in resolving where the problem lies? I don't know if the pdf is incorrect, though it prints fine from 3 different computer systems or if it is in only a few systems. This pdf will be distributed to others. Thanks Pia Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jan-2001 19:23:03-GMT,3764;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07783 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:23:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA30353; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:22:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:15:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29880; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:15:37 -0600 Received: from acorn.ggn.net (qmailr@acorn.ggn.net [198.207.193.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29869 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:15:29 -0600 Received: (qmail 550 invoked from network) by acorn.ggn.net; 3 Jan 2001 19:15:28 -0000 Received: from xcdfdc621.ip.ggn.net (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (205.253.198.33) by ns2.ggn.net with SMTP; 3 Jan 2001 19:15:28 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:15:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Base 13 fonts From: Sheila Donnelly To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000b01c075b4$961e38e0$4f6aa5c6@new> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ You can change your job options so it will force the base 13 fonts to be embedded. Open Distiller and go to settings - job options. On the font tab you will see the base 13 fonts listed. You can select them and move them over into the "always embed" box. Then save your new settings and use the new setting. Sheila Donnelly Precise Corporate Printing, Inc. 75 Front Street, Brooklyn, NY 11201 718-797-0900 or 800-392-2496 (Outside NYC) x134 718-797-9637 Fax sheila.donnelly@precisecorp.com > From: "P. K.Pehtla" > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:10:03 -0330 > To: "Pdfzone" > Subject: [PDF] Base 13 fonts > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hello, > I have made a pdf document (Acrobat 4) from Ventura 5. Unfortunately most > of the fonts used are in the base 13 list. Now when I print from the pdf > document to other systems with postscript printer, level 1 or an HP692 > (non-postscript inkjet), both of which only have Times of the base 13 > installed, I don't have any problems. However my client when he prints from > his PC, printer unknown, the spacing in the text and headings is > irregular -- ie text gets squished. > > Can anyone guide me in resolving where the problem lies? > I don't know if the pdf is incorrect, though it prints fine from 3 different > computer systems or if it is in only a few systems. This pdf will be > distributed to others. > > Thanks > Pia > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jan-2001 15:56:58-GMT,2338;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02661 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:56:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17499; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:56:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:48:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16910; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:48:33 -0600 Received: from pr-scp.com ([208.163.171.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16906 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:48:31 -0600 Received: from icarus.homeland.prww.com ([10.10.10.12]) by ns1.pr-scp.com with ESMTP id <115227>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:50:21 -0500 Received: by icarus.homeland.prww.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:47:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Craft, Stephen" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Script Acrobat Reader Behavior? Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:47:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Are there startup parameters that can be ebmedded into a .pdf, so when Acrobat Reader loads the file it behaves a certain way? I would like to script this kind of behavior for the reader application (Win32 version): 1. Close/quit the reader software after the pdf is closed. 2. Close/quit the reader after nn number of minutes. 3. Close the active document if another one is opened. Help? Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jan-2001 15:57:39-GMT,2338;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02669 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:57:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17548; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:57:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:50:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17027; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:50:11 -0600 Received: from pr-scp.com ([208.163.171.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17019 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:50:08 -0600 Received: from icarus.homeland.prww.com ([10.10.10.12]) by ns1.pr-scp.com with ESMTP id <115227>; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:51:28 -0500 Received: by icarus.homeland.prww.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:47:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Craft, Stephen" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Script Acrobat Reader Behavior? Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:47:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Are there startup parameters that can be ebmedded into a .pdf, so when Acrobat Reader loads the file it behaves a certain way? I would like to script this kind of behavior for the reader application (Win32 version): 1. Close/quit the reader software after the pdf is closed. 2. Close/quit the reader after nn number of minutes. 3. Close the active document if another one is opened. Help? Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jan-2001 15:59:37-GMT,2818;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02724 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:59:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17775; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:58:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:52:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17192; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:52:15 -0600 Received: from dallas.jhuapl.edu (dallas.jhuapl.edu [128.244.197.22]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17185 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:52:10 -0600 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by dallas.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40039) id <0G6L00J01G2DJK@dallas.jhuapl.edu> for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (aplcomm.jhuapl.edu [128.244.26.29]) by dallas.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40039) with ESMTP id <0G6L008NAG286J@dallas.jhuapl.edu> for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from aplcomm.jhuapl.edu ([128.244.82.114]) by aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40042) with ESMTP id <0G6L001FRG28O8@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:51:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:51:22 -0500 From: Lynn Subject: [PDF] Re: Adobe and Paperport Help Please To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <3A534A7A.5324D1CA@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,pdf References: <200012281006.EAA23078@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Do any of you know, and would tell me, which executable of Adobe is used as a link in Paperport? I have a link for Adober Distiller, but every time I try and drag a Paperport file over that link, the PDF creation fails. I tried creating a link to Adobe.exe, but that doesn't work either. I have Adobe 4.0c, Paperport 7.0 running on Windows 2000. Any help appreciated!! Lynn JHU/APL Laurel, MD SwinnCL1@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jan-2001 14:36:08-GMT,3726;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00902 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 07:36:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11614; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:35:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:21:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10850; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:21:23 -0600 Received: from velociraptor.pit-magnus.com (mail.pit-magnus.com [206.139.208.13]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10846 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:21:22 -0600 Received: from mail.pit-magnus.com by velociraptor.pit-magnus.com via smtpd (for everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) with SMTP; 3 Jan 2001 14:13:24 UT Received: from le1.pit-magnus.com ([192.168.5.1]) by mail.pit-magnus.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA19720 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:25:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001901c07590$2047f120$0606a8ac@pitmagnus.com> From: "Dan's Mail" To: Received: from ACA80606.ipt.aol.com by le1.pit-magnus.com via smtpd (for mail.pit-magnus.com [192.168.5.3]) with SMTP; 3 Jan 2001 14:13:23 UT References: <001c01c071c6$d3ad7f00$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Form Tool to Open email Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:19:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the info, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Aandi Inston To: Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Tool to Open email > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > (Please don't send HTML format mail to the list, thanks) > > > I'm trying to use the form tool to create an action that opens > > up an email account which fills in the "To" line to the > > requested address. I did manage to successfully make this happen > > using JavaScript "app.mailMsg(true,"name@address.com");". > > This actually did work when testing on my hard drive, however, > > after burning a CD I got an error message stating that > > "App.mailMsg is not supported for this configuration, including > > Reader, Macintosh, and UNIX". > > > Also, I have the CD set up to Autorun... > > For Autorun you will be using the free Reader, I'm sure. > In this case the message is perfectly true - you cannot use > this method in various configurations, including Reader. > > Aandi > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jan-2001 20:28:43-GMT,2875;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09616 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:28:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01586; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:27:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:20:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01130; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:20:05 -0600 Received: from aia-inc.com (adsl-209-233-135-236.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [209.233.135.236]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01117 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:19:58 -0600 Received: from aiawdoc8g8f9iv [10.101.11.2] by aia-inc.com [10.101.11.254] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.1.R) for ; Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:16:31 -0800 Message-ID: <000901c075c1$a9262080$020b650a@aiawdoc8g8f9iv> From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: References: <200012281006.EAA23078@everglades.binc.net> <3A534A7A.5324D1CA@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Adobe and Paperport Help Please Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:13:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MDRcpt-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-MDRemoteIP: 10.101.11.2 X-Return-Path: steve.aylor@aia-inc.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I believe Paperport 7 Deluxe ships with Image Alchemy's PDf conversion drivers as part of the product - or maybe it was the previous version of Paperport Deluxe 5x that did that. > Do any of you know, and would tell me, which executable of Adobe is used > as a link in Paperport? I have a link for Adober Distiller, but every > time I try and drag a Paperport file over that link, the PDF creation > fails. I tried creating a link to Adobe.exe, but that doesn't work > either. > > I have Adobe 4.0c, Paperport 7.0 running on Windows 2000. Any help > appreciated!! > > Lynn > JHU/APL > Laurel, MD > SwinnCL1@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jan-2001 20:36:35-GMT,3610;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09801 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:36:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02286; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:35:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:28:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01702; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:28:45 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01692 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:28:43 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA21001 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02402; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G6LSVG00.1C0; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:28:28 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010103122540.0282ffe0@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:28:13 -0800 To: "P. K.Pehtla" From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Base 13 fonts Cc: "Pdfzone" In-Reply-To: <000b01c075b4$961e38e0$4f6aa5c6@new> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Such printing problems are generally related to flaky printer drivers (most often for non-PostScript printers) under Windows. Try finding newer drivers or using alternative settings within the driver; some drivers, especially PCL drivers, have multiple quality or page language modes. If all else fails, try using the "print as image" option in the Acrobat print dialog. - Dov At 1/3/2001 10:40 AM, P. K.Pehtla wrote: >Hello, >I have made a pdf document (Acrobat 4) from Ventura 5. Unfortunately most >of the fonts used are in the base 13 list. Now when I print from the pdf >document to other systems with postscript printer, level 1 or an HP692 >(non-postscript inkjet), both of which only have Times of the base 13 >installed, I don't have any problems. However my client when he prints from >his PC, printer unknown, the spacing in the text and headings is >irregular -- ie text gets squished. > >Can anyone guide me in resolving where the problem lies? >I don't know if the pdf is incorrect, though it prints fine from 3 different >computer systems or if it is in only a few systems. This pdf will be >distributed to others. > >Thanks >Pia Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jan-2001 20:48:04-GMT,2754;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10047 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:48:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03398; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:47:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:40:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02865; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:40:30 -0600 Received: from fep2.excitehome.net (fep2.excitehome.net [24.0.26.113]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02829 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:40:20 -0600 Received: from SANDVIKPCL2 ([24.0.13.170]) by fep2.excitehome.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010103204008.EYXI23519.fep2.excitehome.net@SANDVIKPCL2> for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:40:08 -0800 From: "Kent Sandvik" To: Subject: [PDF] Control printing of PDF pages outside of the Acrobat reader Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:43:42 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi, is there a simple Javascript interface for controlling the printing of PDF pages outside the Acrobat reader? I can't use the Acrobat ActiveX control as I assume that only works with the Acrobat tool itself. I need a simple way for someone to print out sections of a larger document. This is especially important as the bundle of the documents inside the PDF file has separate page numbers (originals) so it's a little bit confusing unless I could help out with an outside html page that helps the customer to print out the various sections. Let me know if you have more pointers to this. Thanks, Kent Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jan-2001 1:49:01-GMT,2223;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17197 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:49:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17730; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:47:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:39:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17269; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:39:41 -0600 Received: from hk.sina.com.hk ([202.85.139.109]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17264 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:39:39 -0600 Received: (qmail 3597 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jan 2001 01:43:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20010104014315.3596.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) From: leo_fwchan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Open an encrypted PDF without its plugin Date: Thu Jan 4 09:43:15 HKT 2001 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks Leonard to solve my previous question. I wrote a plugin to make encrypted PDF, but I face a problem. The encrypted PDF can not tell Acrobat/Reader to perform own action while it miss corresponding plugin (my security handler). Not just prompt a warning dialog box. Can I save some autorun statement in my encrypted PDF files then run in file opening. Thanks you for your help!! Leo, API developer =================================================================== ·s®ö§K¶O¹q¤l¶l½c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk ·s®ö¦³¼úEcard"íb"¨Î¸` http://ecards1.sina.com.hk/info.cgi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 3:40:40-GMT,3312;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19273 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:40:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22273; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:39:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:31:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21972; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:31:39 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA21964 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:31:36 -0600 Received: from [205.238.246.94] by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 110285 via TCP with SMTP; Wed, 03 Jan 2001 22:34:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: lvincent@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:25:17 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Linda Vincent Subject: [PDF] SecurSign Demo for NT released! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Digital Applications, Inc. has released a limited time demo of, SecurSign for Windows NT 4.0 A command line application that enables you to add encryption to PDF documents using Acrobat standard security mechanisms. SecurSign makes it easy to add security to large volumes of PDF documents without having to open them up in Acrobat. SecurSign includes the Most Trusted Name in e-Security. RSA BSAFE cryptographic - security protocol software from RSA Security. SecurSign applies standard bit strength encryption to your PDF documents. Standard Security permissions / options are as follows: Require a owner/user password to open a document Do not allow Printing Do not allow Changing the Document Do not allow Selecting Text and Graphics Do not allow Adding or Changing Notes and Form Fields For more information and to download the demo version please visit our web site at http://www.digapp.com Download your copy soon, this demo version is set to expire on 2/1/2001. If you do not have time to download a demo but want to see SecurSign in action, try our new online demonstration. Load up your own PDF file to be encrypted. Have a nice day, Digital Applications, Inc. 60 S. Lansdowne Ave. Lansdowne, PA 19050 610-284-4006 sales@digapp.com support@digapp.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Linda Vincent - Digital Applications, Inc. - Web Specialist 60 S Lansdowne Ave - Lansdowne, PA 19050 610-284-4006 - sales@digapp.com - support@digapp.com http://www.digapp.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 4:19:47-GMT,2723;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19996 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:19:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24395; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:18:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:11:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23893; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:11:07 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA23878 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:11:04 -0600 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 110413 via TCP with SMTP; Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:13:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 23:08:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Control printing of PDF pages outside of the Acrobat reader Cc: sandvik@excitehome.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 12:43 PM -0800 1/3/01, Kent Sandvik wrote: >I need a simple way for someone to print out sections of a larger document. Wouldn't it make more sense to only deliver to customers the parts of the larger document that they need, rather than the entire document? That would also save them download time! Depending on your server OS platform there are a number of 3rd party packages that you can use to do this. Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 14:19:02-GMT,2109;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00264 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:19:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15304; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:05:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:54:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14573; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:54:57 -0600 Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [216.24.27.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14569 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:54:56 -0600 Received: from [24.235.5.192] (216-24-8-142.win.net [216.24.8.142]) (authenticated) by ns1.win.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f04Dsr363515 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:54:54 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: tangram@pop3.win.net Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:00:06 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: DaleH Subject: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I just made a PDF of a minor Simple Text document and checked the Distiller Log to find this message: %%[ Warning: Geneva cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%% What is so special about Geneva? What other fonts have restrictions regarding embedding? DaleH Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 14:30:15-GMT,3999;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00496 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:30:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16675; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:20:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:11:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15817; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:11:32 -0600 Received: from megamail.dsl.net (megamail.dsl.net [209.87.64.97]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15813 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:11:30 -0600 Received: from goprep.com (64-51-1-106.client.dsl.net [64.51.1.106]) by megamail.dsl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29376 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:11:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3A548568.31359E1C@goprep.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 09:15:05 -0500 From: cjmarch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Base 13 fonts References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010103122540.0282ffe0@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ print as image s**ks. you get low-res bitmap printouts of high-res vector images- at a speed that would leave a tortise wanting more. this feature s**ks cross-platform too, so adobe must be working hard to keep things evenly-s**cy across platforms. replace your printer driver with the newest available that supports your os at the manufacturer. contrary to the drivel dispensed here, the adobe driver is never really always responsible for output. Dov Isaacs wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Such printing problems are generally related to flaky printer drivers > (most often for non-PostScript printers) under Windows. Try finding newer > drivers or using alternative settings within the driver; some drivers, > especially PCL drivers, have multiple quality or page language modes. > If all else fails, try using the "print as image" option in the Acrobat > print dialog. > > - Dov > > At 1/3/2001 10:40 AM, P. K.Pehtla wrote: > > >Hello, > >I have made a pdf document (Acrobat 4) from Ventura 5. Unfortunately most > >of the fonts used are in the base 13 list. Now when I print from the pdf > >document to other systems with postscript printer, level 1 or an HP692 > >(non-postscript inkjet), both of which only have Times of the base 13 > >installed, I don't have any problems. However my client when he prints from > >his PC, printer unknown, the spacing in the text and headings is > >irregular -- ie text gets squished. > > > >Can anyone guide me in resolving where the problem lies? > >I don't know if the pdf is incorrect, though it prints fine from 3 different > >computer systems or if it is in only a few systems. This pdf will be > >distributed to others. > > > >Thanks > >Pia > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 14:36:58-GMT,2847;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00641 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:36:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17076; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:23:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:15:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16049; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:15:24 -0600 Received: from public.nfld.com (public.nfld.com [198.165.106.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16013 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:15:15 -0600 Received: from new (ts02-p13.remote.nfld.com [198.165.106.174]) by public.nfld.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f04EFD339866 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:45:13 -0330 (NST) (envelope-from ppehtla@nfld.com) From: "P. K.Pehtla" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Base 13 fonts Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:54:51 -0330 Message-ID: <002a01c0765a$19f51440$ae6aa5c6@new> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010103122540.0282ffe0@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thank you, The "print as image " worked, and I just found out that it was printed on a MAC without problems. I did try to force the base 13 to embed by doing what was suggested, but 'does it really work?' Pia | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On | Subject: Re: [PDF] Base 13 fonts | Such printing problems are generally related to flaky printer drivers | (most often for non-PostScript printers) under Windows. Try finding newer | drivers or using alternative settings within the driver; some drivers, | especially PCL drivers, have multiple quality or page language modes. | If all else fails, try using the "print as image" option in the Acrobat | print dialog. | | - Dov | Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 14:52:48-GMT,2678;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00965 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:52:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18595; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:36:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:23:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17029; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:23:45 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17015 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:23:42 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA22457 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:23:40 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:23:41 -0000 Message-ID: <002d01c07659$efbbc0c0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I just made a PDF of a minor Simple Text document and checked the > Distiller Log to find this message: > > %%[ Warning: Geneva cannot be embedded due to licensing > restrictions.]%% > > What is so special about Geneva? Apple decided it should not be embedded. Their choice. > What other fonts have restrictions regarding embedding? Some foundries apply restrictions to all fonts; some to none. Some charge extra for unrestricted fonts. And some, like Apple, seem random and inconsistent. However, there is a simple rule to follow on Macs when it comes to fonts that would at least avoid this one: NEVER USE CITY FONTS. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 15:15:21-GMT,2450;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01384 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:15:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21524; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:04:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:52:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20571; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:52:35 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20566 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:52:33 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA22524 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:52:32 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Base 13 fonts Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:52:31 -0000 Message-ID: <002e01c0765d$f7e83400$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <002a01c0765a$19f51440$ae6aa5c6@new> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > The "print as image " worked, and I just found out that it > was printed on a > MAC without problems. > > I did try to force the base 13 to embed by doing what was > suggested, but > 'does it really work?' Printing problems are caused by bugs, mostly in printer drivers. So it is usually futile to try and fix them by making PDF files in another way. Instead, visit the bug where it lives: in the printer driver. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 15:24:05-GMT,3417;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01603 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:24:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22165; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:11:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:58:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21152; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:58:46 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21148 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:58:45 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA09366 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10315; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:57:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G6N89J00.DK9; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:58:31 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010104065450.0278f6d8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 06:58:15 -0800 To: DaleH From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Through MacOS 8.6.1, Apple insisted on protecting their TrueType fonts against "print and preview embedding" which effectively prevented them from legally being embedded in PDF files (beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed in the font's data structures). Apple relented beginning with MacOS 9 and those TrueType fonts now permit embedding for print and preview. Update to at least MacOS 9 and the problem will "go away" when the new fonts are installed. - Dov PS: As far as we know, Apple has NOT made the fonts separately available for update under earlier MacOS versions. At 1/4/2001 06:00 AM, DaleH wrote: >I just made a PDF of a minor Simple Text document and checked the Distiller Log to find this message: > >%%[ Warning: Geneva cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%% > >What is so special about Geneva? >What other fonts have restrictions regarding embedding? > >DaleH Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 15:51:18-GMT,3223;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02157 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:51:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24261; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:39:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:27:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23429; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:27:54 -0600 Received: from megamail.dsl.net (megamail.dsl.net [209.87.64.97]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23424 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:27:53 -0600 Received: from goprep.com (64-51-1-106.client.dsl.net [64.51.1.106]) by megamail.dsl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08130 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:27:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3A54974F.2BF40604@goprep.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 10:31:37 -0500 From: cjmarch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ the adobe team (IMHumble O) dropped the ball on enbedding with acrobat 4.0--- many fonts that could be previously enbedded in 3.0 can now not be embedded. it has to do with that originally there was nothing to prevent enbedding, but with 4.0 the font must allow embedding. they completely changed the embedding techniques. see 'pdfzone.com' for a complete description and solutions(((???use only embeddable fonts; how do you know they are until you try???))) for this problem. it occurs more frequently with non-adobe fonts, especially home-made (read fontographer or other fontmaking utility) fonts. cjm DaleH wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > I just made a PDF of a minor Simple Text document and checked the > Distiller Log to find this message: > > %%[ Warning: Geneva cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%% > > What is so special about Geneva? > What other fonts have restrictions regarding embedding? > > DaleH > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 16:16:10-GMT,2396;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02758 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:16:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25956; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:05:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:53:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25227; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:53:36 -0600 Received: from public.nfld.com (public.nfld.com [198.165.106.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25223 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:53:35 -0600 Received: from new (ts04-p06.remote.nfld.com [198.165.106.198]) by public.nfld.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f04FrX392062 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:23:33 -0330 (NST) (envelope-from ppehtla@nfld.com) From: "P. K.Pehtla" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Base 13 fonts Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:33:11 -0330 Message-ID: <000401c07667$d64c2f40$c66aa5c6@new> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002e01c0765d$f7e83400$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks , I understand, and I will pass that on. Pia | -----Original Message----- | Printing problems are caused by bugs, mostly in printer drivers. | So it is usually futile to try and fix them by making PDF files | in another way. Instead, visit the bug where it lives: in the | printer driver. | | Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 16:24:56-GMT,2656;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02974 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:24:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26720; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:15:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:03:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25807; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:03:40 -0600 Received: from smtp.connectnet.com (smtp.connectnet.com [207.110.0.13]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA25803 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:03:39 -0600 Message-Id: <200101041603.KAA25803@everglades.binc.net> Received: (qmail 24913 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2001 16:03:36 -0000 Received: from 207-110-36-212.dsl.connectnet.net (HELO ?192.168.0.6?) (207.110.36.212) by smtp.connectnet.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2001 16:03:36 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 08:04:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ DaleH, Nothing is really special about Geneva, except it is a TrueType font with its "Do Not Embed" flag set. In MacOS 9 both the Geneva and Chicago fonts are now marked as embeddable. You might want to upgrade to OS 9 to work around this problem. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com > I just made a PDF of a minor Simple Text document and checked the > Distiller Log to find this message: > > %%[ Warning: Geneva cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%% > > What is so special about Geneva? > What other fonts have restrictions regarding embedding? > > DaleH Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 16:30:08-GMT,5623;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03082 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:30:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26715; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:15:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:03:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25745; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:03:14 -0600 Received: from mail.Firstdatacorp.COM ([170.186.38.195]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25741 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:03:13 -0600 From: Jeanie.Shoemaker@firstdatacorp.com Received: (from smtp@localhost) by mail.Firstdatacorp.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00858 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:51:11 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.firstdatacorp.com: smtp set sender to using -f Received: from () by mail via smap (V2.1) id xma000491; Thu, 4 Jan 01 15:49:43 GMT Subject: Re: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3 March 21, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:01:21 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SRVMTA1/FDR/FDC(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 01/04/2001 10:01:40 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Yes, they dropped the ball with Acrobat 4.0. Fortunately for us, they picked it up nicely with Acrobat 4.05. cjmarch cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? owner-pdf@lists.p dfzone.com 01/04/2001 09:31 AM Please respond to pdf The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ the adobe team (IMHumble O) dropped the ball on enbedding with acrobat 4.0--- many fonts that could be previously enbedded in 3.0 can now not be embedded. it has to do with that originally there was nothing to prevent enbedding, but with 4.0 the font must allow embedding. they completely changed the embedding techniques. see 'pdfzone.com' for a complete description and solutions(((???use only embeddable fonts; how do you know they are until you try???))) for this problem. it occurs more frequently with non-adobe fonts, especially home-made (read fontographer or other fontmaking utility) fonts. cjm DaleH wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > I just made a PDF of a minor Simple Text document and checked the > Distiller Log to find this message: > > %%[ Warning: Geneva cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%% > > What is so special about Geneva? > What other fonts have restrictions regarding embedding? > > DaleH > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 18:23:56-GMT,7459;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06210 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:23:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00424; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:12:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:00:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32556; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:00:39 -0600 Received: from megamail.dsl.net (megamail.dsl.net [209.87.64.97]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32544 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:00:35 -0600 Received: from goprep.com (64-51-1-106.client.dsl.net [64.51.1.106]) by megamail.dsl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03117 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:00:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3A54BB19.9EFC442C@goprep.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 13:04:20 -0500 From: cjmarch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010104065450.0278f6d8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------59710C86216B34A1350F3BC9" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ --------------59710C86216B34A1350F3BC9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is patently untrue. upgrading to 9.0.4 or 9.1 (TBA tuesday) MIGHT solve the problem for geneva; but what about the fonts you own that were previously embeddable with 3.0 acrobat BUT NO LONGER ARE FOR ACROBAT 4.0. the adobe monitor is being very evasive about this issue. pdfzone.com has the informatoin you need to make an informed decision about which fonts to buy or not to buy. i suggest you talk to your font reps and have extreme clarification about whether fonts are or are not embeddable in acrobat 3.0 vs. 4.0 (and what version you should use. i keep both for those fonts that refuse to embed in 4.0) as well as what happened in acrobat 4.0 that makes some (previously embeddable) fonts non-embeddable. "(beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed in the font's data structures)."---this is true, but what it fails to mention is that if nothing is set to instruct whether it can be embedded, the default is 'no'. MANY older fonts fall into this category. Dov Isaacs wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Through MacOS 8.6.1, Apple insisted on protecting their TrueType fonts > against "print and preview embedding" which effectively prevented them from > legally being embedded in PDF files (beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller > observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed in the font's > data structures). > > Apple relented beginning with MacOS 9 and those TrueType fonts now permit > embedding for print and preview. Update to at least MacOS 9 and the problem > will "go away" when the new fonts are installed. > > - Dov > > PS: As far as we know, Apple has NOT made the fonts separately available for > update under earlier MacOS versions. > > At 1/4/2001 06:00 AM, DaleH wrote: > > >I just made a PDF of a minor Simple Text document and checked the Distiller Log to find this message: > > > >%%[ Warning: Geneva cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%% > > > >What is so special about Geneva? > >What other fonts have restrictions regarding embedding? > > > >DaleH > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------59710C86216B34A1350F3BC9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is patently untrue. upgrading to 9.0.4 or 9.1 (TBA tuesday) MIGHT solve the problem for geneva; but what about the fonts you own that were previously embeddable with 3.0 acrobat BUT NO LONGER ARE FOR ACROBAT 4.0.
the adobe monitor is being very evasive about this issue.

pdfzone.com has the informatoin you need to make an informed decision about which fonts to buy or not to buy. i suggest you talk to your font reps and have extreme clarification about whether fonts are or are not embeddable in acrobat 3.0 vs. 4.0 (and what version you should use. i keep both for those fonts that refuse to embed in 4.0) as well as what happened in acrobat 4.0 that makes some (previously embeddable) fonts non-embeddable.
 
 

"(beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller
observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed in the font's
data structures)."---this is true, but what it fails to mention is that if nothing is set to instruct whether it can be embedded, the default is 'no'. MANY older fonts fall into this category.

Dov Isaacs wrote:

The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com
__________________________________________________________________

Through MacOS 8.6.1, Apple insisted on protecting their TrueType fonts
against "print and preview embedding" which effectively prevented them from
legally being embedded in PDF files (beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller
observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed in the font's
data structures).

Apple relented beginning with MacOS 9 and those TrueType fonts now permit
embedding for print and preview. Update to at least MacOS 9 and the problem
will "go away" when the new fonts are installed.

        - Dov

PS: As far as we know, Apple has NOT made the fonts separately available for
update under earlier MacOS versions.

At 1/4/2001 06:00 AM, DaleH wrote:

>I just made a PDF of a minor Simple Text document and checked the Distiller Log to find this message:
>
>%%[ Warning: Geneva cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%%
>
>What is so special about Geneva?
>What other fonts have restrictions regarding embedding?
>
>DaleH

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > > >pdfzone.com has the informatoin you need to >make an informed decision about which fonts to buy or not to buy. i >suggest you talk to your font reps and have extreme clarification >about whether fonts are or are not embeddable in acrobat 3.0 vs. 4.0 >(and what version you should use. i keep both for those fonts that >refuse to embed in 4.0) as well as what happened in acrobat 4.0 that >makes some (previously embeddable) fonts non-embeddable. > Is there a utility to run which would determine which fonts are embeddable? DaleH Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 19:03:12-GMT,2946;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07297 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:03:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03127; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:52:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:41:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02331; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:41:41 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02327 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:41:39 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA22875 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:41:43 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:41:36 -0000 Message-ID: <003701c0767d$f85ce140$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3A54BB19.9EFC442C@goprep.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > this is patently untrue. upgrading to 9.0.4 or 9.1 (TBA tuesday) MIGHT > solve the problem for geneva; but what about the fonts you own that > were previously embeddable with 3.0 acrobat BUT NO LONGER ARE FOR > ACROBAT 4.0. Yes. Acrobat 3.0 would let you embed fonts that you should not have embedded. Acrobat 4.05 doesn't let you breach copyright so easily. People have been fined millions of dollars for font license violations; you can't blame Adobe for being careful to be on the side of the law when it comes to fonts. Font licenses and licensing restrictions are not convenient. Nobody would pretend they are. Distiller is absolutely correct to refuse to embed a font that says "do not embed". What should it do - pop up a box saying "do you want to violate the font license now yes/no?" 4.0 had a problem with some fonts which were incorrectly made. There were a surprising number around. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 19:53:20-GMT,3387;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08413 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:53:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05855; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:40:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:27:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05089; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:27:45 -0600 Received: from prserv.net (out1.prserv.net [32.97.166.31]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05085 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:27:44 -0600 Received: from utm.com ([32.97.239.17]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2001010419274320100g40uve>; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:27:43 +0000 Message-ID: <3A54CF83.CA7E4F50@utm.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 11:31:15 -0800 From: Jim Merante Organization: Utility Trailer Mfg. Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? References: <003701c0767d$f85ce140$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Max, You suggestion worked, but how do I attach a FDF to the email? Is their a resource that I can refer to for all the javascript mailto: parameters? Thanks, -- Jim > Jim, > > First, it is JavaScript, and not Java. All JavaScript and Java have > in common are three letters. > > The resources are quite easy to list: Have a look at the Acrobat > JavaScript Specification (under the Help menu of Acrobat). The > various protocols are described in the technical documentation of the > various browsers, although it is pretty difficult to get a full > overview over the parameters of the mailto: protocol. > > The very basic script would look like > > this.getURL(mailto:nobody@body.no) > > which would open the browser and its mail client and create a new > empty message to nobody@body.no. > > Hope, this can help. > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering > Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:max@prodok.com > http://www.prodok.com > > > > [ Building Bridges for Information ] > > > ______________________ > > > > > >Can you either provide me with an example of a "getURL > >JavaScript method" or point me in the direction of some > >resources. > > > >(I am totally Java ignorant, but I have done some good > >programming in VB. I'm sure I can figure out how call > >a java script from within Acrobat with a little help.) Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 19:57:54-GMT,15248;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08523 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:57:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06085; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:44:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:32:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05379; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:32:56 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05375 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:32:55 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA17068 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10437; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G6NKYA00.RAO for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:32:34 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010104110459.04cb0508@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 11:32:15 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? In-Reply-To: <3A54BB19.9EFC442C@goprep.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010104065450.0278f6d8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_103030140==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_103030140==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Actually ... (1) Under Windows, Microsoft provides a feature, downloadable from their web site at that after installation, provides detailed information about TrueType fonts, including embedding information, when you right-click and request properties of the font file. Acrobat Distiller 4.0.5 only prohibits embedding if this property sheet indicates "no embedding". (2) Unfortunately, Apple does not provide a comparable feature for MacOS to allow checking the detailed attributes of fonts. (3) Adobe is not being at all "evasive" about the issue of embeddability of fonts. If the font's "fsType" flags in its "OS/2" table say "no embedding", then Distiller 4.05 will not embed the font. Fonts that have those flags set for "no embedding" are that way for one of two reasons: (a) The font foundry / vendor specifically prohibits embedding of fonts in PDF files, Word documents, etc. and has explicitly made their intentions known by setting the flags in accordance with the TrueType font specification. In this case, Adobe is obeying the specification as we believe we are legally obligated to do. (b) The font foundry / vendor did not understand how to properly use the tools to produce TrueType fonts that are not protected against embedding. The chief culprit in this scenario is the Fontographer program used by many font foundries and amateurs alike. Default settings in certain versions of this program would yield flags that indicate "no embedding" result. Unless a font foundry properly output and tested their fonts against the TrueType specification, there was a strong likelihood that fonts output via Fontographer might have severe embedding problems. (4) Adobe has strongly evangelized the concept of always allowing "print and preview embedding" of fonts as the most "severe" protection that should be used. Fonts that don't permit this effectively are not usable. All Adobe TrueType (yes, we have some) and our OpenType fonts allow "print and preview embedding" thus allowing embedding of fonts in PDF files. Our discussions with other font foundries / vendors have most strongly encouraged them to do likewise! (5) Some font foundries / vendors have indeed reissued fonts to fix the problems. For example, Apple finally relented with their "city" fonts that are bundled with the OS per the original discussion. Corel reissued the TrueType fonts bundled with WordPerfect as part of a service pack to likewise fix this and other font problem issues. (6) Other font foundries / vendors insist on overprotecting their fonts. Users should vote with their $$$$ (or equivalent local currency) and let such foundries / vendors know that these restrictions make their products effectively useless by not purchasing these products. The PDFZone information cited below is quite good. I personally significantly contributed to that posting and it was the investigation of the problems involved that led to Acrobat Distiller 4.0.5 being "fixed" to disregard certain bogus fsType flags and not consider such bogus flags as the equivalent of "no embedding." - Dov At 1/4/2001 10:04 AM, cjmarch wrote: >this is patently untrue. upgrading to 9.0.4 or 9.1 (TBA tuesday) MIGHT solve the problem for geneva; but what about the fonts you own that were previously embeddable with 3.0 acrobat BUT NO LONGER ARE FOR ACROBAT 4.0. >the adobe monitor is being very evasive about this issue. > >pdfzone.com has the informatoin you need to make an informed decision about which fonts to buy or not to buy. i suggest you talk to your font reps and have extreme clarification about whether fonts are or are not embeddable in acrobat 3.0 vs. 4.0 (and what version you should use. i keep both for those fonts that refuse to embed in 4.0) as well as what happened in acrobat 4.0 that makes some (previously embeddable) fonts non-embeddable. > > > >"(beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller >observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed in the font's >data structures)."---this is true, but what it fails to mention is that if nothing is set to instruct whether it can be embedded, the default is 'no'. MANY older fonts fall into this category. > >Dov Isaacs wrote: >>Through MacOS 8.6.1, Apple insisted on protecting their TrueType fonts >>against "print and preview embedding" which effectively prevented them from >>legally being embedded in PDF files (beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller >>observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed in the font's >>data structures). >> >>Apple relented beginning with MacOS 9 and those TrueType fonts now permit >>embedding for print and preview. Update to at least MacOS 9 and the problem >>will "go away" when the new fonts are installed. >> >> - Dov >> >>PS: As far as we know, Apple has NOT made the fonts separately available for >>update under earlier MacOS versions. >> >>At 1/4/2001 06:00 AM, DaleH wrote: >> >>>I just made a PDF of a minor Simple Text document and checked the Distiller Log to find this message: >>> >>>%%[ Warning: Geneva cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%% >>> >>>What is so special about Geneva? >>>What other fonts have restrictions regarding embedding? >>> >>>DaleH --=====================_103030140==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Actually ...

(1) Under Windows, Microsoft provides a feature, downloadable from their web site
at <http://www.microsoft.com/typography/property/property.htm> that after installation,
provides detailed information about TrueType fonts, including embedding information,
when you right-click and request properties of the font file. Acrobat Distiller 4.0.5
only prohibits embedding if this property sheet indicates "no embedding".

(2) Unfortunately, Apple does not provide a comparable feature for MacOS to allow
checking the detailed attributes of fonts.

(3) Adobe is not being at all "evasive" about the issue of embeddability of fonts.
If the font's "fsType" flags in its "OS/2" table say "no embedding", then Distiller 4.05
will not embed the font. Fonts that have those flags set for "no embedding" are that way
for one of two reasons:

        (a) The font foundry / vendor specifically prohibits embedding of fonts in
        PDF files, Word documents, etc. and has explicitly made their intentions known
        by setting the flags in accordance with the TrueType font specification. In this
        case, Adobe is obeying the specification as we believe we are legally obligated
        to do.

        (b) The font foundry / vendor did not understand how to properly use the tools
        to produce TrueType fonts that are not protected against embedding. The chief
        culprit in this scenario is the Fontographer program used by many font foundries
        and amateurs alike. Default settings in certain versions of this program would
        yield flags that indicate "no embedding" result. Unless a font foundry properly
        output and tested their fonts against the TrueType specification, there was a
        strong likelihood that fonts output via Fontographer might have severe embedding
        problems.

(4) Adobe has strongly evangelized the concept of always allowing "print and preview
embedding" of fonts as the most "severe" protection that should be used. Fonts that don't
permit this effectively are not usable. All Adobe TrueType (yes, we have some) and our
OpenType fonts allow "print and preview embedding" thus allowing embedding of fonts
in PDF files. Our discussions with other font foundries / vendors have most strongly
encouraged them to do likewise!

(5) Some font foundries / vendors have indeed reissued fonts to fix the problems. For
example, Apple finally relented with their "city" fonts that are bundled with the OS
per the original discussion. Corel reissued the TrueType fonts bundled with WordPerfect
as part of a service pack to likewise fix this and other font problem issues.

(6) Other font foundries / vendors insist on overprotecting their fonts. Users should
vote with their $$$$ (or equivalent local currency) and let such foundries / vendors know
that these restrictions make their products effectively useless by not purchasing these
products.

The PDFZone information cited below is quite good. I personally significantly contributed
to that posting and it was the investigation of the problems involved that led to Acrobat
Distiller 4.0.5 being "fixed" to disregard certain bogus fsType flags and not consider
such bogus flags as the equivalent of "no embedding."

        - Dov

At 1/4/2001 10:04 AM, cjmarch wrote:
this is patently untrue. upgrading to 9.0.4 or 9.1 (TBA tuesday) MIGHT solve the problem for geneva; but what about the fonts you own that were previously embeddable with 3.0 acrobat BUT NO LONGER ARE FOR ACROBAT 4.0.
the adobe monitor is being very evasive about this issue.

pdfzone.com has the informatoin you need to make an informed decision about which fonts to buy or not to buy. i suggest you talk to your font reps and have extreme clarification about whether fonts are or are not embeddable in acrobat 3.0 vs. 4.0 (and what version you should use. i keep both for those fonts that refuse to embed in 4.0) as well as what happened in acrobat 4.0 that makes some (previously embeddable) fonts non-embeddable.
 
 

"(beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller
observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed in the font's
data structures)."---this is true, but what it fails to mention is that if nothing is set to instruct whether it can be embedded, the default is 'no'. MANY older fonts fall into this category.

Dov Isaacs wrote:
Through MacOS 8.6.1, Apple insisted on protecting their TrueType fonts
against "print and preview embedding" which effectively prevented them from
legally being embedded in PDF files (beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller
observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed in the font's
data structures).

Apple relented beginning with MacOS 9 and those TrueType fonts now permit
embedding for print and preview. Update to at least MacOS 9 and the problem
will "go away" when the new fonts are installed.

        - Dov

PS: As far as we know, Apple has NOT made the fonts separately available for
update under earlier MacOS versions.

At 1/4/2001 06:00 AM, DaleH wrote:

>I just made a PDF of a minor Simple Text document and checked the Distiller Log to find this message:
>
>%%[ Warning: Geneva cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions.]%%
>
>What is so special about Geneva?
>What other fonts have restrictions regarding embedding?
>
>DaleH
--=====================_103030140==_.ALT-- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 20:52:58-GMT,3640;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09785 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:52:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09137; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:36:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:25:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08601; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:25:41 -0600 Received: from CORPDB2.vocaldata.com (hidden-user@[209.39.80.131]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08577 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:25:30 -0600 Received: from mhiatt ([172.16.1.78]) by CORPDB2.vocaldata.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G6NN9V00.TP4 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:22:43 -0600 From: "Mike Hiatt" To: "PDF List Messages" Subject: [PDF] Index not finding docs Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:26:08 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello all, I have a wierd problem going on with a Catalog created index of PDF documents. We have some model numbers like AD-1, NB-12, CP-16 and VG-2 and there are documents for these models. However, when I search for these model numbers, the documents specific to the models do not appear in the search results for the AD-1, NB-12 and VG-2. However, the CP-16 works fine. I've rebuilt the index several times and changed the Doc Info field for the PDFs thinking that might help. I've tried deleting the index from the documents and reattaching it. I deleted the old index thinking there was a problem with it and the updated PDFs, but that didnt' help. This is driving me nuts. I have a folder called Doc or V2.0 with subfolders for each document in the set. Each subfolder holds a single PDF. In the base directory is a welcome document and the index. I don't seem to recall having this problem before, but I've been re-distilling the Frame docs into PDFs, substituting the new for the old and re-building the index. When I deleted the original index and rebuilt it, I may have given it a different name, which may be complicating things as well. I'm at the point now of deleting the entire folder and re-creating it, just to get a fresh start and see if that solves the problem. I keep having this nagging suspicion that the problem is the type of hyphen or dash used in the Frame files, but I really don't believe that's the case. Anybody seen this before? If so, how did you solve it? Mike Hiatt Manager, Tech Pubs VocalData, Inc. Dallas (yep, that one) mhiatt@vocaldata.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jan-2001 21:14:23-GMT,4394;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10311 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:14:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11220; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:14:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:03:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10651; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:03:40 -0600 Received: from amfexc01.amfbakery.com (mail.amfbakery.com [12.26.68.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10647 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:03:39 -0600 Received: by AMFEXC01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:04:10 -0500 Message-ID: <8D38DB122A95D2119A6F0008C7093D1A3A6EBD@AMFEXC01> From: "Juergensen, Marty" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Index not finding docs Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:03:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Mike, I found that you can not rename these generated files until they have been distilled or may cause problems as you have described. I would start over and regenerate the files with out changing names. Make sure also that all files are open when you distill from FrameMaker. Martin Juergensen AMF Bakery Systems 2115 West Laburnum Avenue Technical Documentation Manager Direct Line - 804-340-4415 Fax - 804-355-1074 Toll Free - 1-800-BAKERS-1 ext.-415 mjuergensen@amfbakery.com -----Original Message----- From: Mike Hiatt [mailto:mhiatt@vocaldata.com] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:26 PM To: PDF List Messages Subject: [PDF] Index not finding docs The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello all, I have a wierd problem going on with a Catalog created index of PDF documents. We have some model numbers like AD-1, NB-12, CP-16 and VG-2 and there are documents for these models. However, when I search for these model numbers, the documents specific to the models do not appear in the search results for the AD-1, NB-12 and VG-2. However, the CP-16 works fine. I've rebuilt the index several times and changed the Doc Info field for the PDFs thinking that might help. I've tried deleting the index from the documents and reattaching it. I deleted the old index thinking there was a problem with it and the updated PDFs, but that didnt' help. This is driving me nuts. I have a folder called Doc or V2.0 with subfolders for each document in the set. Each subfolder holds a single PDF. In the base directory is a welcome document and the index. I don't seem to recall having this problem before, but I've been re-distilling the Frame docs into PDFs, substituting the new for the old and re-building the index. When I deleted the original index and rebuilt it, I may have given it a different name, which may be complicating things as well. I'm at the point now of deleting the entire folder and re-creating it, just to get a fresh start and see if that solves the problem. I keep having this nagging suspicion that the problem is the type of hyphen or dash used in the Frame files, but I really don't believe that's the case. Anybody seen this before? If so, how did you solve it? Mike Hiatt Manager, Tech Pubs VocalData, Inc. Dallas (yep, that one) mhiatt@vocaldata.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jan-2001 7:50:13-GMT,3572;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23656 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:50:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04622; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 01:48:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 01:42:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04352; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 01:42:00 -0600 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA04348 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 01:41:59 -0600 Received: (qmail 14076 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2001 07:41:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CAT8) ([213.224.16.227]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Jan 2001 07:41:58 -0000 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: [PDF] Frequently Asked Questions Web Site Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:41:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000401c076ea$f5751610$e310e0d5@CAT8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I would like to take this opportunity to present a web site to you all that I have been working on for quite a while now. 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No one hears your screams. -------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jan-2001 8:19:53-GMT,2343;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24249 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 01:19:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA06138; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 02:18:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 02:12:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05864; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 02:12:45 -0600 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05860 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 02:12:43 -0600 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (sdn-ar-002nynyorP141.dialsprint.net [168.191.119.205]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12849 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:12:41 -0800 (PST) From: Don Montalvo To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for January-4-2001 [V2 #962] Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 03:12:08 -0500 Message-Id: <19341130014352.5051@mail.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <200101041423.IAA17052@everglades.binc.net> References: <200101041423.IAA17052@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Yes. 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We have a problem with distilling Word Documents that causes certain graphics to drop down to a lower position on the page in the PDF. We are using Word '97 and Distiller 4.05. We originally had bicubic downsampling at 300 dpi and experimenting with the settings shows us that changing it to 72 DPI solves the problem but gives us too low quality images for printing. We also notice that if we distill the problem page separately it doesn't cause the problem at the original downsampling level. Does anyone have any suggestions? Yours, David Harry -- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jan-2001 13:47:17-GMT,2399;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29937 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 06:47:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19839; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:47:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:40:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19536; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:40:38 -0600 Received: from pootus.iglobal.net (qmailr@pootus.iglobal.net [209.164.200.50]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18832 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:27:29 -0600 Received: (qmail 27424 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2001 14:47:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.53?) (209.164.209.210) by mail.avreafoster.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2001 14:47:36 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 07:22:23 -0600 Subject: [PDF] Question From: Joan Wagner To: pdf info , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am trying to create a word document using the table of contents feature, then create a pdf from that word document, and finally I want to open that pdf in acrobat and have all the table of contents items that were marked in word appear on the left side (perhaps under bookmark?) of the pdf file. The purpose is for another person to click on the first heading on the left of the pdf file and go directly to that page. I appreciate any help. Thanks Joan Wagner Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jan-2001 13:47:17-GMT,2399;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29936 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 06:47:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19838; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:47:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:40:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19524; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:40:37 -0600 Received: from pootus.iglobal.net (qmailr@pootus.iglobal.net [209.164.200.50]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18831 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:27:29 -0600 Received: (qmail 27424 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2001 14:47:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.53?) (209.164.209.210) by mail.avreafoster.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2001 14:47:36 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 07:22:23 -0600 Subject: [PDF] Question From: Joan Wagner To: pdf info , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am trying to create a word document using the table of contents feature, then create a pdf from that word document, and finally I want to open that pdf in acrobat and have all the table of contents items that were marked in word appear on the left side (perhaps under bookmark?) of the pdf file. The purpose is for another person to click on the first heading on the left of the pdf file and go directly to that page. I appreciate any help. Thanks Joan Wagner Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jan-2001 14:57:05-GMT,3413;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01253 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:57:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23591; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:54:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:42:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22949; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:42:24 -0600 Received: from amfexc01.amfbakery.com (mail.amfbakery.com [12.26.68.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22945 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:42:23 -0600 Received: by AMFEXC01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:42:54 -0500 Message-ID: <8D38DB122A95D2119A6F0008C7093D1A3A6EC3@AMFEXC01> From: "Juergensen, Marty" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Question Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:42:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Joan, Unless I have misinterpreted you question, if you are having problems with getting Acrobat Distiller to produce this automatically you can always do it manually in Acrobat by creating the bookmarks yourself. You can also create the links manually in the Acrobat document using the linking tool. We have to do this occasionally for our documents that do not distill correctly from FrameMaker and or MS Word. Best regards, Martin Juergensen AMF Bakery Systems 2115 West Laburnum Avenue Technical Documentation Manager Direct Line - 804-340-4415 Fax - 804-355-1074 Toll Free - 1-800-BAKERS-1 ext.-415 mjuergensen@amfbakery.com -----Original Message----- From: Joan Wagner [mailto:joan_wagner@avreafoster.com] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:22 AM To: pdf info; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Question The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am trying to create a word document using the table of contents feature, then create a pdf from that word document, and finally I want to open that pdf in acrobat and have all the table of contents items that were marked in word appear on the left side (perhaps under bookmark?) of the pdf file. The purpose is for another person to click on the first heading on the left of the pdf file and go directly to that page. I appreciate any help. Thanks Joan Wagner Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jan-2001 21:04:52-GMT,2833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11313 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:04:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10921; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:04:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:56:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10324; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:56:12 -0600 Received: from mout02.kundenserver.de (mout02.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.133]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10320 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:56:10 -0600 Received: from [195.20.224.75] (helo=mrelay00.kundenserver.de) by mout02.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Edu9-000605-00; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:56:05 +0100 Received: from pc19ea2fe.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([193.158.162.254] helo=fujitsu.online.de) by mrelay00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Edt4-00036e-00; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:54:59 +0100 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20010105214330.00ada630@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:54:24 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: Re: [PDF] Question Cc: joan_wagner@avreafoster.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 07:22 05.01.01 -0600, you wrote: > I am trying to create a word document using the table of > contents feature, then create a pdf from that word document, > and finally I want to open that pdf in acrobat and have all > the table of contents items that were marked in word appear > on the left side (perhaps under bookmark?) of the pdf file. If you use PDFmaker to create the PDF file from Word, these bookmarks can be created automatically. Creation of bookmarks does not use the entries (marked or other- wise) of the table of contents though, but is based on the style formatting of paragraphs (normally the outline styles Heading 1, Heading 2, etc.). Reinhard Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Jan-2001 22:19:07-GMT,3383;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13461 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:19:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15958; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:18:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:12:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15647; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:12:41 -0600 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15642 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:12:37 -0600 Received: from [165.121.116.76] (user-2init2c.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.116.76]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13896 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:12:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101052212.RAA13896@maynard.mail.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: non embedable fonts... Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:11:41 -0400 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ on 1/5/01 4:56 PM, cjmarch wrote; >the adobe team (IMHumble O) dropped the ball on enbedding with acrobat 4.0--- >many fonts that could be previously enbedded in 3.0 can now not be embedded. ahem - while you are correct in the fact that they changed the embeding behavior in 4.0 - i would not agree that this was a "ball drop" - this was more a reaction from several font vendors - probably including agfa - who suggested to adobe that they were ignoring flags to NOT embed fonts that were flagged as such - indeed, some vendors fonts may have not been flagged to not outline, embed or outline appropriately (or, in a way that was obvious to the engineers at Adobe) - and since these 'dont embed" flags tended to be in TrueType fonts, not Adobes technology, one might suggest that this dispute was difficult to resolve in an obvious and straightforward manner. HOWEVER - just because someone is unhappy that one font that embeded in Acrobat 3 and now it won't does not make this Adobes "fault" - they simply are trying to be respectful of font vendors requests - now, if you want to always use fonts that embed, use Type1. if you have a font that does not do what you need it to do, get rid of it. but don't blame adobe. Michael Jahn Apogee Create Product Manager Agfa corporation 200 Balardvale Street MS 200-4-5H WIlmington, MA 01887-1069 http://www.agfa.com/create/ http://www.jahn.org/ P: 978-284-5504 F: 978.657.8984 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Jan-2001 0:06:04-GMT,4573;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16190 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:06:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21548; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 18:04:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:56:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21184; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:56:35 -0600 Received: from ex.ddsep.com (mail.ddsep.com [209.136.108.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21180 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:56:33 -0600 Received: from win98 (209.136.108.2 [209.136.108.2]) by ex.ddsep.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id ZN2V726Q; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 18:27:30 -0600 From: "Brian Harned" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Graphics moving on page when distilled Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:54:44 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Is your document formatted with Distiller as its default printer? If it is formatted for say, an Epson printer and then you change the printer to Distiller, shifting can occur with both text and graphics. To be sure that your document is formatted for Distiller, go to your print dialog box and select Distiller as the printer and then hit the 'close' button. Word should then format the document for that printer you selected (Distiller). Now go to the suspect areas in your document and see if the graphics have shifted. Make corrections as necessary and you should be ready to distill. This same scenario holds true if you are printing to a PostScript file and then distilling. You must make sure the document formatted for the printer driver creating the output file. I'm purely guessing on your workflow. If this didn't answer your question you can email me directly with a little more details and maybe we can work it out. Hope this helps Brian Harned Digital Document Services bharned@ddsep.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of David Harry Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:14 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Graphics moving on page when distilled The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello to the list. We have a problem with distilling Word Documents that causes certain graphics to drop down to a lower position on the page in the PDF. We are using Word '97 and Distiller 4.05. We originally had bicubic downsampling at 300 dpi and experimenting with the settings shows us that changing it to 72 DPI solves the problem but gives us too low quality images for printing. We also notice that if we distill the problem page separately it doesn't cause the problem at the original downsampling level. Does anyone have any suggestions? Yours, David Harry -- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Jan-2001 20:00:07-GMT,4420;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03428 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:00:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28795; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:59:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:46:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27982; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:46:54 -0600 Received: from raq.prodok.net (www.ewebcart.com [209.217.19.156] (may be forged)) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27978 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:46:52 -0600 Received: from [192.168.0.7] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by raq.prodok.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18441; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:46:11 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: max%prodok.com@mail7.burlee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A54BB19.9EFC442C@goprep.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010104065450.0278f6d8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> <3A54BB19.9EFC442C@goprep.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:31:28 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? Cc: cjmarch Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Keep in mind that Distiller 3 did not care about any embeddability (which is in fact only an issue with TrueType (and the new OpenType) fonts; PostScript Type 1 fonts do not have any embeddability flags). This causes a potential problem with licence breaching. Distiller 4.0 did honor the embeddability flags (the fs flags). However, Distiller 4.0 allowed embedding only when it was explicitely allowed. This is not bad per-se, but the leading font creation software (Fontographer) has a bug which creates some essentially illegal fs flag settings. The consequence was that Distiller did not embed these fonts. This is also the reason why many of the cheapo-cheapo TrueType fonts have embeddability problems. The situation has been fixed with Distiller 4.05, which does only not embed fonts which have been set to "not embedding". However, if you encounter a TrueType font (if you really MUST use it) which you can not embed, it would be a much better idea to complain to the maker of the font (and not to the maker of Distiller). Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:max@prodok.com http://www.prodok.com [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >this is patently untrue. upgrading to 9.0.4 or 9.1 (TBA tuesday) >MIGHT solve the problem for geneva; but what about the fonts you own >that were previously embeddable with 3.0 acrobat BUT NO LONGER ARE >FOR ACROBAT 4.0. >the adobe monitor is being very evasive about this issue. > >pdfzone.com has the informatoin you need to >make an informed decision about which fonts to buy or not to buy. i >suggest you talk to your font reps and have extreme clarification >about whether fonts are or are not embeddable in acrobat 3.0 vs. 4.0 >(and what version you should use. i keep both for those fonts that >refuse to embed in 4.0) as well as what happened in acrobat 4.0 that >makes some (previously embeddable) fonts non-embeddable. > > > >"(beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller >observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed >in the font's >data structures)."---this is true, but what it fails to mention is >that if nothing is set to instruct whether it can be embedded, the >default is 'no'. MANY older fonts fall into this category. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jan-2001 18:16:10-GMT,3260;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00804 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:16:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20999; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:15:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:08:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20551; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:08:20 -0600 Received: from dmz.tshore.com ([209.117.149.245]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20529 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:08:17 -0600 Received: From MAIL.TSHORE.COM (10.0.4.34[10.0.4.34 port:2359]) by dmz.tshore.com Mail essentials (server 2.422) with SMTP id: <5013@dmz.tshore.com> for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 1:05:45 PM -0500 smtpmailfrom Received: from [10.0.5.91] by mail.tshore.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-52713U200L100S0) with ESMTP id AAA171; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:05:23 -0500 X-Sender: suec@10.0.4.34 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: Sue Campbell Subject: [PDF] Type problem from non-Adobe printers Cc: keytype@sunlink.net Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:05:23 -0500 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello Listers, I am trying to help one of our compositors troubleshoot a problem. Fortunately his problem is not happening here. Please see his message to me below. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I can tell you that they typically embed and subset their fonts. Some book printers have been having problems with our PDF files in that the type will sometimes not base-align or some characters in the font will print darker than intended. We have been looking at this problem for more than 3 weeks and everything seems to point to the emulated (reverse-engineered) PostScript that is used in some output devices. We can duplicate the problems here if we run a PDF file on a Lexmark (emulated PostScript) printer, but if we run the same PDF file in a Xante (true Adobe PostScript) printer, none of the problems show up. Changing resolution from printer to printer doesn't seem to change anything. Is this a known problem with PDF files? Is it print-driver related and can it be fixed? TIA, Sue ************************************** Sue Campbell Training & Production Coordinator Thomson- Shore, Inc. Quality Book Manufacturing suec@tshore.com (734) 426-6293 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Jan-2001 18:47:38-GMT,3946;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01903 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:47:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22972; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:47:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:41:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22623; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:41:36 -0600 Received: from relay01.cablecom.net (relay01.cablecom.net [62.2.33.101]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22619 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:41:34 -0600 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by relay01.cablecom.net (8.11.1/8.11.0/SOL/MXRELAY-1.03) with ESMTP id f08IfS659611; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:41:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.11.1/8.11.0/MSOL-2.17) with ESMTP id f08IfOs10748; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:41:24 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: max%prodok.com@mail7.burlee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:41:04 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Type problem from non-Adobe printers Cc: Sue Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Sue, you do actually mention the reason: PostScript clones. For really reliable PostScript printing, your printer should be an original Adobe PostScript printer. You could try to print as image, which is usually less a problem. You might also create the PDFs with Level 2 or even Level 1 PostScript in mind. Not recommended by Adobe (and in no way supported), but worth a try, could be using the newest AdobePS printer driver. In any case, get the newest printer driver for your printer. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:max@prodok.com http://www.prodok.com [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >I am trying to help one of our compositors troubleshoot a problem. >Fortunately his problem is not happening here. Please see his message to me >below. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I can tell you that they >typically embed and subset their fonts. > >Some book printers have been having problems with our PDF files in that the >type will sometimes not base-align or some characters in the font will >print darker than intended. We have been looking at this problem for more >than 3 weeks and everything seems to point to the emulated >(reverse-engineered) PostScript that is used in some output devices. > >We can duplicate the problems here if we run a PDF file on a Lexmark >(emulated PostScript) printer, but if we run the same PDF file in a Xante >(true Adobe PostScript) printer, none of the problems show up. Changing >resolution from printer to printer doesn't seem to change anything. > >Is this a known problem with PDF files? Is it print-driver related and can >it be fixed? Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 7:00:38-GMT,2579;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA21061 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:00:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26163; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 01:00:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:46:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25537; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:46:37 -0600 Received: from public.electrolux.se (public.electrolux.se [193.183.68.17]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25532 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:46:35 -0600 From: christian.larsson@electrolux.se Received: from gatekeeper (gatekeeper [193.183.68.29]) by public.electrolux.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA08826 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 07:46:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from sthhub02.ed.electrolux.se (sthhub02eth [10.10.10.2]) by ed9usc2.ed.electrolux.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21179 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 07:46:12 +0100 (MET) Subject: [PDF] Pitstop server: How to add logo? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 07:46:10 +0100 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on STHHUB02/Servers/Electrolux Group(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 2001-01-09 07:46:15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id AAA25533 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi! I have a document with 153 pages and I want our company logo to be on every page, how? I´m using Win NT4, Acrobat 4.05 and Pistop server 1.0. Enfocus has one function to add there logo but how do I change this action or create a new one. to add our logo? Best regards Christian Larsson Electrolux Professional Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 10:01:03-GMT,3711;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24667 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:01:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01683; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 04:00:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:54:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01179; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:54:01 -0600 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA01173 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:54:00 -0600 Received: (qmail 5608 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2001 09:53:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ellic) ([213.224.9.104]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Jan 2001 09:53:59 -0000 From: "ellic" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Pitstop server: How to add logo? Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:53:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c07a22$169341c0$0e00a8c0@ellic> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello Christian, It is possible to create your own action lists with PitStop Professional 4.51 (plug-in for Acrobat 4.05). A 30 day trial version is available on our website www.enfocus.com. You just need to replace our logo by yours in the Action List Panel. If you need more details on how to do this, please contact me off line at support@enfocus.com. Kind regards, Elli ================================= Enfocus Software Support, Belgium support@enfocus.com www.enfocus.com +32 9 269 16 90 Please include all correspondence regarding support questions. ================================================== -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of christian.larsson@electrolux.se Sent: dinsdag 9 januari 2001 7:46 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Pitstop server: How to add logo? The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi! I have a document with 153 pages and I want our company logo to be on every page, how? I´m using Win NT4, Acrobat 4.05 and Pistop server 1.0. Enfocus has one function to add there logo but how do I change this action or create a new one. to add our logo? Best regards Christian Larsson Electrolux Professional Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 13:56:25-GMT,3271;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28888 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 06:56:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12793; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 07:56:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 07:49:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12328; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 07:49:18 -0600 Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12324 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 07:49:16 -0600 From: fjk@akgsoftware.de Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Fz9D-0008Gx-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:49:11 +0100 Received: from pd4b89aed.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([212.184.154.237] helo=akgsoftware.de) by mrvdom00.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Fz8o-0001Ge-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:48:47 +0100 Organization: AKG Software Consulting GmbH To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:16:01 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: [PDF] Again: Semi-transparent colors in Acrobat 4.0x? Message-Id: <3A5B1D21.11468.1258F6B@localhost> In-Reply-To: <000201c06c17$edaf2520$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> References: <3A432CC1.1316.44D01C@localhost> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12cDE) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Aandi Inston schrieb am 22 Dec 2000, um 13:05 zum Thema RE: [PDF] Again: Semi-transparent c: > InDesign 1.5 creates transparent colors even if I generate the > PDF with the Distiller Printer (win2k). Can you describe the exact > procedure. Create a frame, put a topograpic bitmap in, "fill" that frame with a color, e.g. yellow or green and you'll see the topographic bitmap through the color. > > - A tool named "O.R.I.S. page" which I downloaded (www.cgs.com) as > > demo yesterday, lets me open the PDF with the opaque colors, pick > > the relevant object and define a transparency between 0 (nothing) > > and 100 (opaque) percent. > > Is this on screen only? That URL doesn't seem to work today. Oops, the correct URL is . Franz-Josef Knelangen ------ AKG Software Consulting GmbH Jechtinger Str. 13 79111 Freiburg im Breisgau Tel. (0761)47821-19 Fax -30 Tixi FJK+49-761-4706926 www.akgsoftware.de Std.Discl."All this has to be turned in DECENT English" Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 14:21:14-GMT,3131;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29372 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 07:21:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14640; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:21:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:15:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14200; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:15:09 -0600 Received: from onyx.dcri.duke.edu (onyx.dcri.duke.edu [152.3.109.28]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14193 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:15:07 -0600 Received: from facs.org (CT25 [152.3.109.145]) by onyx.dcri.duke.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id Y2QTCZP0; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:15:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3A5B1C99.1DCB33AB@facs.org> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 09:13:45 -0500 From: "Brent A. Blumenstein" Organization: American College of Surgeons Oncology Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mailing List PDFZone Subject: [PDF] Powerpoint and Distiller 4.05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Before I start doing a deep investigation, and apologies of this has been covered: On a Win2K platform I cannot "print" to distiller printer from Powerpoint (but can from other applications). I get an error message that implies that part of the spooling system has been terminated, I get a blank page output and no indication of anything amiss in log. Subsequent attempts to use the distiller printer fail with a message stating that it is not installed. I reboot and all appears OK (until I attempt the Powerpoint thing again). Is this a known problem/limitation, or must I start the arduous process of figuring out what is wrong (this time) with my installation. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | e-mail: bblumenstein@facs.org ACOSOG | office: 919 668 8441 Box 17969 | fax: 919 668 7122 Duke U. 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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:54:38 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01c07a54$799c45a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3A5B1D21.11468.1258F6B@localhost> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > > InDesign 1.5 creates transparent colors even if I generate the > > PDF with the Distiller Printer (win2k). Can you describe the exact > > procedure. > > Create a frame, put a topograpic bitmap in, "fill" that frame with a > color, e.g. yellow or green and you'll see the topographic bitmap > through the color. Do you mean a monochrome bitmap? And that you can change all of the white or black parts to another colour? That isn't transparency... > > > > - A tool named "O.R.I.S. page" which I downloaded (www.cgs.com) as > > > demo yesterday, lets me open the PDF with the opaque colors, pick > > > the relevant object and define a transparency between 0 (nothing) > > > and 100 (opaque) percent. > > > > Is this on screen only? That URL doesn't seem to work today. > > Oops, the correct URL is . The FAQ for the product says "QUESTION: When composing images or highlighting black text on dark backgrounds, image parts or tints must be set to transparent. Such tasks are typically carried out in PhotoShop. ANSWER: Especially transparency - for which PostScript and PDF provide no commands - is a strong feature of O.R.I.S. Page. All page objects can be assigned a transparency which can be changed interactively under visual control. It is not required to calculate a new image with this transparency and insert it into the page. And it is just as easy to correct the transparency again afterwards." So this is agreeing with my statement: you cannot do partial transparency in PDF at all. So, I know ORIS page must be doing some kind of trick - rasterising, compositing. Do you still doubt that there is no transparency support in PDF 1.3? Then reread the specification! Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 17:21:28-GMT,4329;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04564 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:21:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26150; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:20:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:13:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25693; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:13:57 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25689 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:13:56 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA13289 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07878; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G6WNUQ00.VTA; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:13:38 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010109090817.0282bbd0@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 09:13:18 -0800 To: Sue Campbell From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Type problem from non-Adobe printers Cc: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" , keytype@sunlink.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ If in fact the file prints perfectly fine to a Xante printer but has type anomalies on the Lexmark (you are right, it is "clonescript"), I think you have indeed nailed the problem. We are aware are problems in which some Lexmark models had/have problems with Multiple Master fonts. You may have used such fonts explicitly OR if you don't have a font embedded in the PDF file and Acrobat needs to substitute for it, Multiple Master font technology is used to "faux" the font (say that thirty times quickly). To their credit, Lexmark has made fixes available for some such problems in the past by replacing the defective printer firmware. Call Lexmark tech support for assistance in this matter. And it shouldn't be print driver related. - Dov At 1/8/2001 10:05 AM, Sue Campbell wrote: >Hello Listers, > >I am trying to help one of our compositors troubleshoot a problem. >Fortunately his problem is not happening here. Please see his message to me >below. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I can tell you that they >typically embed and subset their fonts. > >Some book printers have been having problems with our PDF files in that the >type will sometimes not base-align or some characters in the font will >print darker than intended. We have been looking at this problem for more >than 3 weeks and everything seems to point to the emulated >(reverse-engineered) PostScript that is used in some output devices. > >We can duplicate the problems here if we run a PDF file on a Lexmark >(emulated PostScript) printer, but if we run the same PDF file in a Xante >(true Adobe PostScript) printer, none of the problems show up. Changing >resolution from printer to printer doesn't seem to change anything. > >Is this a known problem with PDF files? Is it print-driver related and can >it be fixed? > >TIA, Sue Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 18:10:05-GMT,3818;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06112 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:10:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29476; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:09:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:01:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28890; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:01:53 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28886 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:01:52 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA20390 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:05:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13075; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G6WQ2L00.9LB; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:01:33 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010109095708.0282bbd0@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 10:01:13 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Powerpoint and Distiller 4.05 Cc: "Brent A. Blumenstein" In-Reply-To: <3A5B1C99.1DCB33AB@facs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ No, this is NOT a known problem. We regularly use the combination of Powerpoint and Acrobat under Windows 2000 at Adobe with no problems. It sounds like some internal configuration problem outside of either the Postscript print driver or Acrobat. Are you running on a "pure" Windows 2000 system or a Windows NT 4 (or Windows'9x) system that was "upgraded" to Windows 2000? We have heard of all sorts of crazy mishagoss that goes on when attempting to do the "upgrade" route. We most strongly recommend "clean" installations of Windows 2000. - Dov At 1/9/2001 06:13 AM, Brent A. Blumenstein wrote: >Before I start doing a deep investigation, and apologies of this has >been covered: On a Win2K platform I cannot "print" to distiller printer >from Powerpoint (but can from other applications). I get an error >message that implies that part of the spooling system has been >terminated, I get a blank page output and no indication of anything >amiss in log. Subsequent attempts to use the distiller printer fail with >a message stating that it is not installed. I reboot and all appears OK >(until I attempt the Powerpoint thing again). > >Is this a known problem/limitation, or must I start the arduous process >of figuring out what is wrong (this time) with my installation. > >-- >Brent A. Blumenstein | e-mail: bblumenstein@facs.org Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 19:03:03-GMT,2562;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08138 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:03:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00138; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:02:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:55:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32150; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:54:58 -0600 Received: from halifax.chebucto.ns.ca (chebucto.ns.Ca [192.75.95.75]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32146 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:54:57 -0600 Received: from localhost (user: 'aw096', uid#26639) by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca id ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:54:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:54:39 -0400 (AST) From: Joey Mitchell Comeau To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf ascii format trouble Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am writing a script that creates ascii format pdf files, and when I view them I get an error saying that the files is damaged, but then it shows me the file, and everything is where it should be. I was wondering where I could find information on how to create PDF files in binary format (the PDF reference doesn't seem to have any information on this, all the examples being in ascii format) The error given by xpdf is Error (0): PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xref table... my xref looks like; xref 0 8 0000000000 65535 f 0000000009 00000 n 0000000084 00000 n 0000000126 00000 n 0000000182 00000 n 0000000359 00000 n 0000001906 00000 n 0000001929 00000 n 0000002053 00000 n I appreciate any help, thanks, [Joey] perl -e 'print "yes"&"no"for(1..3)' Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 19:03:03-GMT,2318;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08137 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:03:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00137; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:02:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:56:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32365; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:56:08 -0600 Received: from exchange.kayesmith.com (ftp.kayesmith.com [208.222.254.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32345 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:56:06 -0600 Received: by 175.infobaz.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:33:49 -0800 Message-ID: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE0F402CB@175.infobaz.com> From: Matt Beals To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:32:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I recently had to rebuild my NT Workstation and when I did, my Distiller printer stopped working. I installed 4.0 then 4.05 and everything seemed to be fine. I proceeded to update 4.05 to 4.05c and it stopped working. Is there a way to get it back without re-installing Acrobat? The printer still shows up in the printer list, it just won't work. Thanks in advance. Matt Beals Preflight Engineer Kaye-Smith (425) 227-3209 (800) 822-9987 x1281 mailto:matt.beals@kayesmith.com http://www.kayesmith.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 19:17:25-GMT,3119;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08671 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:17:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02081; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:17:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:11:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01385; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:11:43 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01375 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:11:40 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01174 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20732; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G6WTAY00.9Q2; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:11:22 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010109110949.0282bbd0@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 11:11:03 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE0F402CB@175.infobaz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This makes little sense. There is nothing in the updater for Acrobat 4.05 that brings it to 4.05c that does anything with the Acrobat Printer instance or the Distiller. They are unchanged. - Dov At 1/9/2001 10:32 AM, Matt Beals wrote: >I recently had to rebuild my NT Workstation and when I did, my Distiller >printer stopped working. I installed 4.0 then 4.05 and everything seemed to >be fine. I proceeded to update 4.05 to 4.05c and it stopped working. Is >there a way to get it back without re-installing Acrobat? The printer still >shows up in the printer list, it just won't work. Thanks in advance. > >Matt Beals Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 19:54:17-GMT,3192;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09834 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:54:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04980; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:54:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:48:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04641; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:48:15 -0600 Received: from relay03.cablecom.net (relay03.cablecom.net [62.2.33.103]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04637 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:48:14 -0600 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by relay03.cablecom.net (8.11.1/8.11.0/SOL/MXRELAY-1.03) with ESMTP id f09Jl9246455; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:47:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.11.1/8.11.0/MSOL-2.17) with ESMTP id f09Jl9m21907; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:47:09 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: max%prodok.com@mail7.burlee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:31:24 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf ascii format trouble Cc: Joey Mitchell Comeau Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ There seems to be a problem with your xref table. Most likely, the number of characters per entry may be wrong, or the offset may not be exact, but the PDF viewer is able to repair the table. It is therefore not really the problem with ASCII or binary. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:max@prodok.com http://www.prodok.com [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ > I am writing a script that creates ascii format pdf files, and >when I view them I get an error saying that the files is damaged, but then >it shows me the file, and everything is where it should be. > I was wondering where I could find information on how to create >PDF files in binary format (the PDF reference doesn't seem to have any >information on this, all the examples being in ascii format) Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 20:13:58-GMT,3097;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10553 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:13:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06647; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:13:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:04:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05870; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:04:09 -0600 Received: from exchange.kayesmith.com (ftp.kayesmith.com [208.222.254.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05866 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:04:08 -0600 Received: by 175.infobaz.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:57:22 -0800 Message-ID: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE0F402CD@175.infobaz.com> From: Matt Beals To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:57:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ It doesn't make sense, but that is what happened. I don't understand what is going on. Matt Beals -----Original Message----- From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isaacs@Adobe.COM] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:11 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This makes little sense. There is nothing in the updater for Acrobat 4.05 that brings it to 4.05c that does anything with the Acrobat Printer instance or the Distiller. They are unchanged. - Dov At 1/9/2001 10:32 AM, Matt Beals wrote: >I recently had to rebuild my NT Workstation and when I did, my Distiller >printer stopped working. I installed 4.0 then 4.05 and everything seemed to >be fine. I proceeded to update 4.05 to 4.05c and it stopped working. Is >there a way to get it back without re-installing Acrobat? The printer still >shows up in the printer list, it just won't work. Thanks in advance. > >Matt Beals Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 20:55:05-GMT,3613;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11969 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:55:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09807; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:54:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:47:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09215; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:47:04 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09203 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:47:01 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA32724 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:46:37 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf ascii format trouble Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:46:20 -0000 Message-ID: <002301c07a7d$3d38b0c0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I am writing a script that creates ascii format pdf files, and > when I view them I get an error saying that the files is > damaged, but then > it shows me the file, and everything is where it should be. > I was wondering where I could find information on how to create > PDF files in binary format (the PDF reference doesn't seem to have any > information on this, all the examples being in ascii format) There is no real difference. ASCII format PDFs don't have any binary characters, binary PDFs might. They still have xref tables, streams and the rest of it. > > The error given by xpdf is > > Error (0): PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct > xref table... > > > my xref looks like; > > xref > 0 8 > > 0000000000 65535 f > 0000000009 00000 n > 0000000084 00000 n > 0000000126 00000 n > 0000000182 00000 n > 0000000359 00000 n > 0000001906 00000 n > 0000001929 00000 n > 0000002053 00000 n This is the problem with viewing PDF as an ASCII format - it really isn't at all. Looking at your xref lines we have absolutely no way to check if those addresses are correct, if the lines are really exactly 20 bytes including line termination, and so forth. Similarly, typing in the examples from the manual is no guarantee of correctness. The examples should be viewed as "an example of what a correct PDF would look like if viewed as text", but not, never, "a PDF file you can type in". You need to confirm the structure yourself, perhaps by writing a program that prints blocks of the file with offsets. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 20:56:36-GMT,3991;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12001 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:56:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10166; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:55:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:49:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09372; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:49:05 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09364 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:49:03 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA25864 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29398; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G6WXTE00.NYN; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:48:50 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010109124410.0282bbd0@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 12:48:30 -0800 To: Matt Beals From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE0F402CD@175.infobaz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Matt, I wouldn't doubt that you are seeing a problem. The mystery is what caused the problem since the updater didn't touch the Distiller, the driver, or any of the printer instances involved. I would suggest that you do a full Acrobat uninstall, followed by a reinstallation of Acrobat 4.05a (you don't need to install 4.0 first). Then install "Update 2" which brings 4.05a to 4.05c. I assume that you are using the AdobePS 5.1.2 driver AND have NT 4 SP5. - Dov At 1/9/2001 11:57 AM, Matt Beals wrote: >It doesn't make sense, but that is what happened. I don't understand what is >going on. > >Matt Beals > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isaacs@Adobe.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:11 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Cc: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer > > >This makes little sense. There is nothing in the updater for Acrobat 4.05 >that brings it to 4.05c that does anything with the Acrobat Printer instance >or the Distiller. They are unchanged. > > - Dov > > >At 1/9/2001 10:32 AM, Matt Beals wrote: > >>I recently had to rebuild my NT Workstation and when I did, my Distiller >>printer stopped working. I installed 4.0 then 4.05 and everything seemed to >>be fine. I proceeded to update 4.05 to 4.05c and it stopped working. Is >>there a way to get it back without re-installing Acrobat? The printer still >>shows up in the printer list, it just won't work. Thanks in advance. >> >>Matt Beals Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 20:56:36-GMT,3059;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12002 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:56:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAB10167; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:55:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:49:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09339; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:49:01 -0600 Received: from megamail.dsl.net (megamail.dsl.net [209.87.64.97]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09335 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:49:00 -0600 Received: from goprep.com (64-51-1-106.client.dsl.net [64.51.1.106]) by megamail.dsl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16622 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:48:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3A5B7A1C.A41B691B@goprep.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:52:51 -0500 From: cjmarch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer References: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE0F402CB@175.infobaz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ matt, did you change the location of the distiller or support files? it is possible that the registry has lost track of where things are. reload it and it will probably be fine. cjm Matt Beals wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > I recently had to rebuild my NT Workstation and when I did, my Distiller > printer stopped working. I installed 4.0 then 4.05 and everything seemed to > be fine. I proceeded to update 4.05 to 4.05c and it stopped working. Is > there a way to get it back without re-installing Acrobat? The printer still > shows up in the printer list, it just won't work. Thanks in advance. > > Matt Beals > Preflight Engineer > Kaye-Smith > (425) 227-3209 > (800) 822-9987 x1281 > mailto:matt.beals@kayesmith.com > http://www.kayesmith.com > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 21:02:11-GMT,2787;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12220 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:02:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11065; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:01:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:54:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09813; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:54:28 -0600 Received: from halifax.chebucto.ns.ca (chebucto.ns.Ca [192.75.95.75]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09809 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:54:27 -0600 Received: from localhost (user: 'aw096', uid#26639) by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca id ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:54:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:54:17 -0400 (AST) From: Joey Mitchell Comeau To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf ascii format trouble In-Reply-To: <002301c07a7d$3d38b0c0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > This is the problem with viewing PDF as an ASCII format - it really > isn't at all. Looking at your xref lines we have absolutely no > way to check if those addresses are correct, if the lines are really > exactly 20 bytes including line termination, and so forth. Similarly, > typing in the examples from the manual is no guarantee of > correctness. The examples should be viewed as "an example of > what a correct PDF would look like if viewed as text", but not, > never, "a PDF file you can type in". No, I'm not typing it in from the example. My program is generating the xref table by finding the offsets of the objects. I've been using perl's length function... I'm not sure if this is what I should be using. > You need to confirm the structure yourself, perhaps by writing > a program that prints blocks of the file with offsets. That's what I am trying to do, I'm having perl create the file and store it in an array, joey Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 21:14:40-GMT,4249;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12656 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:14:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12357; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:14:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:06:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11695; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:06:40 -0600 Received: from exchange.kayesmith.com (ftp.kayesmith.com [208.222.254.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11691 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:06:39 -0600 Received: by 175.infobaz.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:59:54 -0800 Message-ID: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE0F402CF@175.infobaz.com> From: Matt Beals To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:58:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am using NT 4 SP6 and AdobePS driver 1.02 (Universal installer). I went looking for all available ports, and my Distiller port is gone. I will try to re-install and see what happens. Maybe it is a installation sequence problem. I have run into that only once before. Matt Beals Preflight Engineer Kaye-Smith (425) 227-3209 (800) 822-9987 x1281 mailto:matt.beals@kayesmith.com http://www.kayesmith.com -----Original Message----- From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isaacs@Adobe.COM] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 12:49 PM To: Matt Beals Cc: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Matt, I wouldn't doubt that you are seeing a problem. The mystery is what caused the problem since the updater didn't touch the Distiller, the driver, or any of the printer instances involved. I would suggest that you do a full Acrobat uninstall, followed by a reinstallation of Acrobat 4.05a (you don't need to install 4.0 first). Then install "Update 2" which brings 4.05a to 4.05c. I assume that you are using the AdobePS 5.1.2 driver AND have NT 4 SP5. - Dov At 1/9/2001 11:57 AM, Matt Beals wrote: >It doesn't make sense, but that is what happened. I don't understand what is >going on. > >Matt Beals > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isaacs@Adobe.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:11 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Cc: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer > > >This makes little sense. There is nothing in the updater for Acrobat 4.05 >that brings it to 4.05c that does anything with the Acrobat Printer instance >or the Distiller. They are unchanged. > > - Dov > > >At 1/9/2001 10:32 AM, Matt Beals wrote: > >>I recently had to rebuild my NT Workstation and when I did, my Distiller >>printer stopped working. I installed 4.0 then 4.05 and everything seemed to >>be fine. I proceeded to update 4.05 to 4.05c and it stopped working. Is >>there a way to get it back without re-installing Acrobat? The printer still >>shows up in the printer list, it just won't work. Thanks in advance. >> >>Matt Beals Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Jan-2001 22:02:01-GMT,2601;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14074 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:02:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15800; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:01:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:54:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15223; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:54:45 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15219 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:54:43 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA00063 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 21:54:51 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf ascii format trouble Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 21:54:40 -0000 Message-ID: <002a01c07a86$c54343a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > No, I'm not typing it in from the example. My program is > generating the > xref table by finding the offsets of the objects. > I've been using perl's length function... I'm not sure if > this is what I > should be using. I'm not sure what approach you are using; you need to be in touch with the exact way that data is written to the file. One thing to be particularly wary of is that the \n "character" is very likely to be two bytes if you run Perl on a PC. At least, you must make sure to use the binmode function. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 0:36:18-GMT,3880;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18550 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:36:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24290; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:36:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:28:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23806; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:28:16 -0600 Received: from grafikhuset01.grafikhuset ([193.89.186.226]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23798 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:28:13 -0600 Received: by GRAFIKHUSET01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:02:10 +0100 Message-ID: <21E910ECB07BD211951D0080C87E974F15AABB@GRAFIKHUSET01> From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jacob_Sch=E4ffer?= To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:02:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Matt, Does the AcroTray process run? - Jacob -----Original Message----- From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isaacs@Adobe.COM] Sent: 9. januar 2001 21:49 To: Matt Beals Cc: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Matt, I wouldn't doubt that you are seeing a problem. The mystery is what caused the problem since the updater didn't touch the Distiller, the driver, or any of the printer instances involved. I would suggest that you do a full Acrobat uninstall, followed by a reinstallation of Acrobat 4.05a (you don't need to install 4.0 first). Then install "Update 2" which brings 4.05a to 4.05c. I assume that you are using the AdobePS 5.1.2 driver AND have NT 4 SP5. - Dov At 1/9/2001 11:57 AM, Matt Beals wrote: >It doesn't make sense, but that is what happened. I don't understand what is >going on. > >Matt Beals > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isaacs@Adobe.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:11 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Cc: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Distiller Printer > > >This makes little sense. There is nothing in the updater for Acrobat 4.05 >that brings it to 4.05c that does anything with the Acrobat Printer instance >or the Distiller. They are unchanged. > > - Dov > > >At 1/9/2001 10:32 AM, Matt Beals wrote: > >>I recently had to rebuild my NT Workstation and when I did, my Distiller >>printer stopped working. I installed 4.0 then 4.05 and everything seemed to >>be fine. I proceeded to update 4.05 to 4.05c and it stopped working. Is >>there a way to get it back without re-installing Acrobat? The printer still >>shows up in the printer list, it just won't work. Thanks in advance. >> >>Matt Beals Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 0:57:24-GMT,3713;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19040 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:57:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25650; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:57:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:50:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25222; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:50:23 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25195 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:50:15 -0600 Received: from [63.100.177.98] ([63.100.177.70]) by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 127332 via TCP with SMTP; Tue, 09 Jan 2001 19:51:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@38.164.135.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002a01c07a86$c54343a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> References: <002a01c07a86$c54343a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:48:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: [PDF] Applications ported to OS/390? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We have a large customer who would like us to port our FDFMerge application to IBM OS/390 under Unix System Services. We have already ported our SPDF Library to OS/390 using IBM's porting facility in Waltham; so, we are familiar with and can effectively work with OS/390. However, if we are to port our applications; it is not feasible to rely on the porting facility for ongoing support and maintenance of commercial applications. Therefore, we would need to have an IBM Z Server in house for development and testing. Either purchasing or leasing an IBM Z Server is an very expensive proposition; so, I am looking for ways to justify the expense. The easiest way to justify the expense is to find customers who are running high production web services on OS/390 and are interested in moving their on-demand PDF generation onto OS/390 using our products. We have information from IBM on the installed base of OS/390 systems; but, the numbers don't tell us how many systems are used for web services or production publishing. So, it is very difficult to determine if the installed base would be interested in purchasing our products. Assuming we can justify the porting effort; we would be porting our core applications: AppendPDF, AppendPDF Pro, StampPDF Batch and FDFMerge along with several of our soon to be announced products and our XML/SVG to PDF technologies. With this note I am hoping to learn how many in the PDF community are using and/or are interested in OS/390 for on-demand and/or high volume production. Please respond directly to me at mgavin@digapp.com. Thank you. -- Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 60 South Lansdowne Avenue Lansdowne, PA 19050 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 10:14:30-GMT,3392;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00586 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:14:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA17007; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:13:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:04:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA16512; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:04:10 -0600 Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA16508 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:04:07 -0600 From: fjk@akgsoftware.de Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14GI6i-0007Hp-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:03:52 +0100 Received: from p3e9c38e0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([62.156.56.224] helo=akgsoftware.de) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14GI6g-0001R6-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:03:50 +0100 Organization: AKG Software Consulting GmbH To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:02:58 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: [PDF] Again: Semi-transparent colors in Acrobat 4.0x? Message-Id: <3A5C4162.15716.54DC48@localhost> In-Reply-To: <001f01c07a54$799c45a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> References: <3A5B1D21.11468.1258F6B@localhost> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12cDE) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Aandi Inston schrieb am 9 Jan 2001, um 15:54 zum Thema RE: [PDF] Again: Semi-transparent c: > Do you mean a monochrome bitmap? And that you can change all > of the white or black parts to another colour? That isn't > transparency... The task of our customers is highway and railway design and if you have to plan a new one, you oftren put a topographic map as reference on a layer (usually this is a b/w bitmap) and plan the the new road "on top" of the map in another layer --- if you print your plan, you can see the topographic informations "through" the, say, light grey new road. In PDF, all the colors are opaque. That's the problem ... W/o doubt you know far more than I about PDF specifications :-) ... what makes me wonder is the information in the cited Adobe support document that "semi-transparency" in Office apps show opaque on screen but should be semi-transparent in print. Mit freundlichem Gruss, Franz-Josef Knelangen ------ AKG Software Consulting GmbH Jechtinger Str. 13 79111 Freiburg im Breisgau Tel. (0761)47821-19 Fax -30 Tixi FJK+49-761-4706926 www.akgsoftware.de Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 13:52:13-GMT,2192;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04385 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:52:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29537; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:52:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:45:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29161; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:45:54 -0600 Received: from halifax.chebucto.ns.ca (chebucto.ns.Ca [192.75.95.75]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29154 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:45:50 -0600 Received: from localhost (user: 'aw096', uid#26639) by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca id ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:45:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:45:29 -0400 (AST) From: Joey Mitchell Comeau To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf ascii format trouble In-Reply-To: <002a01c07a86$c54343a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have got it working. Thanks to everyone who offered advice on this. My problem was with the offsets in the xref table. I wrote a short perl script to perform the calculations a little more intelligently, and added them to the file by hand. It worked without error. Again, I appreciate your taking the time to answer my questions. Joey Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 15:16:28-GMT,2885;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06319 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:16:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02682; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:15:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:09:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02163; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:09:34 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA02159 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:09:33 -0600 Received: from [207.29.206.88] ([209.152.220.71]) by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 128243 via TCP with SMTP; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:10:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:30:40 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf ascii format trouble Cc: aw096@chebucto.ns.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 4:54 PM -0400 1/9/01, Joey Mitchell Comeau wrote: >No, I'm not typing it in from the example. My program is generating the >xref table by finding the offsets of the objects. >I've been using perl's length function... I'm not sure if this is what I >should be using. Not that you shouldn't feel free to reinvent the wheel, but you do know that there are already some VERY well done PDF modules for Perl, including the pretty complete Text::PDF module (see ) that not only creates PDF, but also lets you modify existing ones! Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 18:01:47-GMT,4711;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11273 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:01:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15472; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:49:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:42:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13704; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:42:26 -0600 Received: from mcncmdm1exims2.marriott.com (host037.marriott.com [162.130.1.37]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13656 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:42:19 -0600 Received: from PickupDirectory by mcncmdm1exims2.marriott.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id C4JTBM87; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:22:47 -0500 Received: FROM everglades.binc.net BY mcncmdm1exims2.marriott.com ; Wed Jan 10 05:18:49 2001 -0500 Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA16909; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:11:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:04:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA16512; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:04:10 -0600 Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA16508 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:04:07 -0600 From: fjk@akgsoftware.de Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14GI6i-0007Hp-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:03:52 +0100 Received: from p3e9c38e0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([62.156.56.224] helo=akgsoftware.de) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14GI6g-0001R6-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:03:50 +0100 Organization: AKG Software Consulting GmbH To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:02:58 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: [PDF] Again: Semi-transparent colors in Acrobat 4.0x? Message-Id: <3A5C4162.15716.54DC48@localhost> In-Reply-To: <001f01c07a54$799c45a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> References: <3A5B1D21.11468.1258F6B@localhost> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12cDE) X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Aandi Inston schrieb am 9 Jan 2001, um 15:54 zum Thema RE: [PDF] Again: Semi-transparent c: > Do you mean a monochrome bitmap? And that you can change all > of the white or black parts to another colour? That isn't > transparency... The task of our customers is highway and railway design and if you have to plan a new one, you oftren put a topographic map as reference on a layer (usually this is a b/w bitmap) and plan the the new road "on top" of the map in another layer --- if you print your plan, you can see the topographic informations "through" the, say, light grey new road. In PDF, all the colors are opaque. That's the problem ... W/o doubt you know far more than I about PDF specifications :-) ... what makes me wonder is the information in the cited Adobe support document that "semi-transparency" in Office apps show opaque on screen but should be semi-transparent in print. Mit freundlichem Gruss, Franz-Josef Knelangen ------ AKG Software Consulting GmbH Jechtinger Str. 13 79111 Freiburg im Breisgau Tel. 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Thanks to everyone who offered advice on this. My problem was with the offsets in the xref table. I wrote a short perl script to perform the calculations a little more intelligently, and added them to the file by hand. It worked without error. Again, I appreciate your taking the time to answer my questions. Joey Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 18:13:19-GMT,2365;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11708 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:13:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17234; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:58:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:51:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15870; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:51:15 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15865 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:51:12 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA01571 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:51:15 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Again: Semi-transparent colors in Acrobat 4.0x? Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:51:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001d01c07b2d$eb32e5a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3A5C4162.15716.54DC48@localhost> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > W/o doubt you know far more than I about PDF specifications :-) ... > what makes me wonder is the information in the cited Adobe > support document that "semi-transparency" in Office apps show > opaque on screen but should be semi-transparent in print. What is the detailed reference there? Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 18:31:03-GMT,3398;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12265 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:31:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18604; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:09:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:02:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17855; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:02:49 -0600 Received: from cis.cecosami.com.pe (root@[200.47.152.131]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17849 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:02:45 -0600 Received: from avite ([192.168.1.13]) by cis.cecosami.com.pe (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA26388 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:18:48 -0500 Message-ID: <00c901c07b30$39cce5b0$0d01a8c0@avite> From: "Alfredo Vite" To: Subject: [PDF] Cropped areas printed Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:07:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C07B06.50E180F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C07B06.50E180F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear list I have a Stylus 800 to print my color documents, but when I print PDF = document form Acrobat PC all pictures print with cropped (hidden) areas, = this pictures was edit in QuarkXpress version 4.1. It doesnt happen when = PDF is printed to Stylus 800 from Acrobat Mac.=20 Some ideas =20 Thank in advance Alfredo Vite=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C07B06.50E180F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I have a Stylus 800 to print my color documents, but when I print = PDF=20 document form Acrobat PC all pictures print with cropped (hidden) = areas,=20 this pictures was edit in QuarkXpress version 4.1. It doesnt happen when = PDF is=20 printed to Stylus 800 from Acrobat Mac.
 
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Alfredo Vite
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My program is generating the >xref table by finding the offsets of the objects. >I've been using perl's length function... I'm not sure if this is what I >should be using. Not that you shouldn't feel free to reinvent the wheel, but you do know that there are already some VERY well done PDF modules for Perl, including the pretty complete Text::PDF module (see ) that not only creates PDF, but also lets you modify existing ones! Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 20:34:28-GMT,4281;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16130 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:34:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28296; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:16:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:09:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27652; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:09:14 -0600 Received: from terra.cms.wwu.edu (terra.cms.wwu.edu [140.160.248.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27648 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:09:12 -0600 Received: by terra.cms.wwu.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:09:12 -0800 Message-ID: <13E890B91B40D111958E0060B03C86ED081F7474@terra.cms.wwu.edu> From: Kathy Tadlock To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Windows NT drivers Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:09:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C07B41.2E649BD0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07B41.2E649BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We have problem in our student labs (using Windows NT) keeping the default driver as the default when the students switch to Acrobat Distiller or PDF Writer to create their postscript file. Each time a student uses the Distiller or PDF Writer driver, the default printer changes to Distiller or PDF Writer instead of the lab HP printer. To make the HP printer the default, the student has to go into Settings, Printers and reset. It creates havoc for the next unsuspecting student user who may or may not know how to use Distiller or how to check and change printers. Any experience with this problem or any suggestions? Kathy Tadlock Western Washington University Kathy.Tadlock@wwu.edu ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07B41.2E649BD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
We have problem in our student labs (using Windows NT) keeping the default driver as the default when the students switch to Acrobat Distiller or PDF Writer to create their postscript file. Each time a student uses the Distiller or PDF Writer driver, the default printer changes to Distiller or PDF Writer instead of the lab HP printer. To make the HP printer the default, the student has to go into Settings, Printers and reset. It creates havoc for the next unsuspecting student user who may or may not know how to use Distiller or how to check and change printers. Any experience with this problem or any suggestions?
 

Kathy Tadlock
Western Washington University
Kathy.Tadlock@wwu.edu

 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C07B41.2E649BD0-- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 21:01:20-GMT,3265;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16998 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:01:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30495; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:45:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:38:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29962; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:38:27 -0600 Received: from zedd.revealed.net (zedd.revealed.net [205.243.76.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29958 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:38:24 -0600 Received: from qcbc (bob2.revealed.net [208.16.227.5]) by zedd.revealed.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA00582 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:37:00 -0600 Message-ID: <023601c07b45$616765e0$8a05fea9@qcbc> From: "Cy Galley" To: References: <13E890B91B40D111958E0060B03C86ED081F7474@terra.cms.wwu.edu> Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows NT drivers Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:38:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Since you are using a PC, make the change from settings on the pull down from the Start button. This setting becomes the default setting. When you change it in PM it will revert to the default the next time that PM is opened. Cy Galley - editor, B-C Contact! Bellanca-Champion Club Visit us at: http://www.bellanca-championclub.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Tadlock" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:09 PM Subject: [PDF] Windows NT drivers > We have problem in our student labs (using Windows NT) keeping the default > driver as the default when the students switch to Acrobat Distiller or PDF > Writer to create their postscript file. Each time a student uses the > Distiller or PDF Writer driver, the default printer changes to Distiller or > PDF Writer instead of the lab HP printer. To make the HP printer the > default, the student has to go into Settings, Printers and reset. It creates > havoc for the next unsuspecting student user who may or may not know how to > use Distiller or how to check and change printers. Any experience with this > problem or any suggestions? > > Kathy Tadlock > Western Washington University > Kathy.Tadlock@wwu.edu > > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 21:14:41-GMT,5384;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17552 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:14:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30503; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:45:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:38:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29938; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:38:21 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29934 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:38:20 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05155 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21158; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G6YRZI00.4IA; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:38:06 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010110123516.027c5dd8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:37:44 -0800 To: Kathy Tadlock From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows NT drivers Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <13E890B91B40D111958E0060B03C86ED081F7474@terra.cms.wwu.edu > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_64606328==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_64606328==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What application are these students running when they print? This sounds like a bug that I've seen in the past in Microsoft Word 97. In general, when an application chooses to print to a different printer than the current default when inside an application, that does not change the default printer specification. And there certainly is nothing in the PostScript driver (or PDFWriter driver) that would cause this, either! - Dov At 1/10/2001 12:09 PM, Kathy Tadlock wrote: >We have problem in our student labs (using Windows NT) keeping the default driver as the default when the students switch to Acrobat Distiller or PDF Writer to create their postscript file. Each time a student uses the Distiller or PDF Writer driver, the default printer changes to Distiller or PDF Writer instead of the lab HP printer. To make the HP printer the default, the student has to go into Settings, Printers and reset. It creates havoc for the next unsuspecting student user who may or may not know how to use Distiller or how to check and change printers. Any experience with this problem or any suggestions? > > >Kathy Tadlock >Western Washington University >Kathy.Tadlock@wwu.edu > > --=====================_64606328==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" What application are these students running when they print?

This sounds like a bug that I've seen in the past in Microsoft Word 97.
In general, when an application chooses to print to a different printer than
the current default when inside an application, that does not change the default
printer specification. And there certainly is nothing in the PostScript driver
(or PDFWriter driver) that would cause this, either!

        - Dov


At 1/10/2001 12:09 PM, Kathy Tadlock wrote:
We have problem in our student labs (using Windows NT) keeping the default driver as the default when the students switch to Acrobat Distiller or PDF Writer to create their postscript file. Each time a student uses the Distiller or PDF Writer driver, the default printer changes to Distiller or PDF Writer instead of the lab HP printer. To make the HP printer the default, the student has to go into Settings, Printers and reset. It creates havoc for the next unsuspecting student user who may or may not know how to use Distiller or how to check and change printers. Any experience with this problem or any suggestions?
 

Kathy Tadlock
Western Washington University
Kathy.Tadlock@wwu.edu
 
 
--=====================_64606328==_.ALT-- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 23:03:10-GMT,2377;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20906 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:03:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06178; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:46:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:40:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05678; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:40:07 -0600 Received: from iris.iupui.edu (iris.iupui.edu [134.68.220.32]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05668 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:40:03 -0600 Received: from jade.iupui.edu (jade.iupui.edu [134.68.220.114]) by iris.iupui.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/IUPUIPO.20001219) with SMTP id RAA15129 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:40:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:40:02 -0500 (EST) From: John Andrew Herrin To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller hot folders In-Reply-To: <200101101927.NAA23689@everglades.binc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ When using Distiller's hot folder setup I was wondering if Distiller is smart enough to wait for a file to stabilize before it starts trying to process the postscript. We transfer files over a network to an NT server running Distiller. Will Distiller wait for the file to completely spool in (stabilize) or is there does Distiller start processing the file after a certain amount of time regardless of the files transfer stage. Thanks in advance for the help. John Herrin jaherrin@iupui.edu Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jan-2001 23:31:53-GMT,3382;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21974 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:31:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08256; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:19:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:14:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07895; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:14:13 -0600 Received: from ex.ddsep.com (mail.ddsep.com [209.136.108.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07891 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:14:11 -0600 Received: from win98 (209.136.108.2 [209.136.108.2]) by ex.ddsep.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id ZN2V7K2W; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:46:06 -0600 From: "Brian Harned" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller hot folders Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:12:18 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Yes, Distiller will wait until the file is completely transferred into the folder before it begins parsing. This should hold true if you are copying or printing files to the watched folder. Brian Harned Digital Document Services -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of John Andrew Herrin Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:40 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller hot folders The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ When using Distiller's hot folder setup I was wondering if Distiller is smart enough to wait for a file to stabilize before it starts trying to process the postscript. We transfer files over a network to an NT server running Distiller. Will Distiller wait for the file to completely spool in (stabilize) or is there does Distiller start processing the file after a certain amount of time regardless of the files transfer stage. Thanks in advance for the help. John Herrin jaherrin@iupui.edu Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jan-2001 1:26:01-GMT,2558;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24681 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:25:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13829; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:10:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:04:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13420; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:04:39 -0600 Received: from proxy.surf.net.au (ip-69-7.surf.net.au [203.87.69.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13416 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:04:33 -0600 Received: from [203.16.165.76] (ppp83.surf.net.au [203.16.165.83]) by proxy.surf.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01501 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:09:18 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gheard@mail.surf.net.au Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010110123516.027c5dd8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010110123516.027c5dd8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:03:39 +1100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Geoffrey Heard Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows NT drivers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi people I am getting a beige tint showing on grayscale images and in some areas where I have placed white boxes to conceal elements. These show on the screen, but do not appear to affect printout. Can anyone tell me what's going on? Acrobat 4.0.5a, Mac G3, 17" AppleVision monitor, standard graphics card (whatever that is), OS 9.0.4. Files are from PageMaker 6.52 and Canvas 7; printed to postscript file, then PDFed using Acrobat Distiller 4.0.5. Cecking in those programs shows no colour component in the elements which appear tinted in Acrobat. Cheers, Geoff Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jan-2001 4:56:47-GMT,2533;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29393 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:56:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22903; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:42:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:36:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22623; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:36:34 -0600 Received: from hk.sina.com.hk ([202.85.139.107]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA22619 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:36:32 -0600 Received: (qmail 13736 invoked by uid 99); 11 Jan 2001 04:37:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20010111043752.13735.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) From: leo_fwchan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Thu Jan 11 12:37:52 HKT 2001 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have a doubts in using API to embed a data file into PDF. Using new a cos stream to get the data file, but I'm not fully understand the progress. The following is my program which is try to embed b.dat into a.pdf, but it doesn't work ASFile gFile; name = ASPathFromPlatformPath("c:"); rtn = ASFileSysOpenFile (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), name, ASFILE_READ, &gFile); stm= ASFileStmRdOpen (rtn,32*1024); attributesDict = CosNewDict(cdoc, false, 5); Length_K = ASAtomFromString("Location"); LengthEntry = CosNewInteger(cdoc, false, -1); CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, LengthEntry); cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc, true, stm, 0, true, attributesDict, CosNewNull(), -1); ASFileClose (gFile); Thanks in advance Leo =================================================================== ·s®ö§K¶O¹q¤l¶l½c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk ·s®ö¦³¼úEcard"íb"¨Î¸` http://ecards1.sina.com.hk/info.cgi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jan-2001 6:15:40-GMT,2782;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01002 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:15:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26626; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:03:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:57:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26339; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:57:33 -0600 Received: from gricmail.gric.com ([207.20.139.10]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26335 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:57:31 -0600 Received: from [196.30.179.46] (cpt-dial-196-30-179-46.mweb.co.za [196.30.179.46]) by gricmail.gric.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25848; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:56:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200101110556.VAA25848@gricmail.gric.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:57:00 +0200 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller hot folders From: "Stephen Lavey" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, jaherrin@iupui.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello John, we've got a similar set up, however in my experience, the distiller starts 'chomping' away at the data as soon as the 'watched time has elapsed. I got round this by making it a very high time, thus increasing the success rate. Before it conntinuously produced a failed log file as the postscript wasn't stabalised. Best regards Stephen > > When using Distiller's hot folder setup I was wondering if Distiller is > smart enough to wait for a file to stabilize before it starts trying to > process the postscript. > > We transfer files over a network to an NT server running Distiller. Will > Distiller wait for the file to completely spool in (stabilize) or is there > does Distiller start processing the file after a certain amount of time > regardless of the files transfer stage. > > Thanks in advance for the help. > > John Herrin > jaherrin@iupui.edu > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jan-2001 6:34:49-GMT,2533;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01385 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:34:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27858; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:23:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:18:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA27608; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:17:59 -0600 Received: from hk.sina.com.hk ([202.85.139.107]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA27604 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:17:57 -0600 Received: (qmail 15620 invoked by uid 99); 11 Jan 2001 06:19:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20010111061936.15619.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) From: leo_fwchan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Thu Jan 11 14:19:36 HKT 2001 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have a doubts in using API to embed a data file into PDF. Using new a cos stream to get the data file, but I'm not fully understand the progress. The following is my program which is try to embed b.dat into a.pdf, but it doesn't work ASFile gFile; name = ASPathFromPlatformPath("c:"); rtn = ASFileSysOpenFile (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), name, ASFILE_READ, &gFile); stm= ASFileStmRdOpen (rtn,32*1024); attributesDict = CosNewDict(cdoc, false, 5); Length_K = ASAtomFromString("Location"); LengthEntry = CosNewInteger(cdoc, false, -1); CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, LengthEntry); cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc, true, stm, 0, true, attributesDict, CosNewNull(), -1); ASFileClose (gFile); Thanks in advance Leo =================================================================== ·s®ö§K¶O¹q¤l¶l½c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk ·s®ö¦³¼úEcard"íb"¨Î¸` http://ecards1.sina.com.hk/info.cgi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jan-2001 8:17:19-GMT,4317;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03639 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:17:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA32384; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 02:03:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:56:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA32045; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:56:19 -0600 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA32041 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 01:56:18 -0600 Received: (qmail 4798 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2001 07:18:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gremlin2) ([213.224.9.190]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Jan 2001 07:18:08 -0000 From: "Andy Den Tandt" To: Subject: Beige tint on grayscale images (was RE: [PDF] Windows NT drivers) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:18:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000801c07b9e$a5b314c0$0400a8c0@gremlin2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Any chance that the white is Calibrated RGB? To verify: * Use e.g. PitStop to directly inspect the object. * Did you edit it as RGB and distill screen optimized? * Try changing the ICC profile for your monitor. This should give a color change. * (Re-)create the thumbnails. Calibrated RGB white gives a blueish color on the thumbnail. As for solutions if this is so: * Distill with other settings (maybe colors unchanged?) * Use a different ICC profile * Convert the colors of the resulting PDF into RGB Are there other solutions to calibrated RGB white showing a colored tint? Kind regards, Andy Den Tandt ============================================ Andy Den Tandt Software Development Engineer Enfocus Software Kleindokkaai 3-5 B-9000 Gent Belgium Voice: +32 9 269 16 90 Fax : +32 9 269 16 91 Email: andydt@enfocus.be web : www.enfocus.com ============================================ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Geoffrey Heard > Sent: donderdag 11 januari 2001 2:04 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows NT drivers > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi people > > I am getting a beige tint showing on grayscale images and in some > areas where I have placed white boxes to conceal elements. > > These show on the screen, but do not appear to affect printout. > > Can anyone tell me what's going on? > > Acrobat 4.0.5a, Mac G3, 17" AppleVision monitor, standard graphics > card (whatever that is), OS 9.0.4. > > Files are from PageMaker 6.52 and Canvas 7; printed to postscript > file, then PDFed using Acrobat Distiller 4.0.5. > > Cecking in those programs shows no colour component in the elements > which appear tinted in Acrobat. > > Cheers, > Geoff > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jan-2001 10:03:59-GMT,2815;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05564 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:03:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04935; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:53:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:48:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04595; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:48:16 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04588 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:48:14 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA02864 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:48:17 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:48:09 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c07bb3$9b756b60$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010111043752.13735.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I have a doubts in using API to embed a data file into PDF. > Using new a cos stream to get the data file, but I'm not > fully understand the progress. > > The following is my program which is try to embed b.dat into > a.pdf, but it doesn't work > ... > cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc, true, stm, 0, true, > attributesDict, CosNewNull(), -1); > ASFileClose (gFile); This does indeed create a stream, but it doesn't put it anywhere. Unless it is attached to an existing object in the PDF file, it won't be saved. And even if it was saved, you would have no way to find it again. There are a number of places in a PDF file where you can add your own data. One of the most useful is in a custom annotation object, but this is not the only possibility. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jan-2001 10:03:59-GMT,2548;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05565 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:03:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04864; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:52:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:46:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04499; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:46:14 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04495 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:46:12 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA02858 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:46:15 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller hot folders Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:46:07 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c07bb3$52747460$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > When using Distiller's hot folder setup I was wondering if > Distiller is > smart enough to wait for a file to stabilize before it starts > trying to > process the postscript. I suspect that in the Windows environment it just tries to open the file with a full lock. Since the creator should always lock a file while it is writing, this sounds safe enough. I'm not convinced that network writes always lock a file, but since that isn't allowed, that's not an issue...right? Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jan-2001 11:42:34-GMT,3285;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07437 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 04:42:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10350; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 05:29:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 05:22:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10018; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 05:22:49 -0600 Received: from hk.sina.com.hk ([202.85.139.107]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA10013 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 05:22:47 -0600 Received: (qmail 14351 invoked by uid 99); 11 Jan 2001 11:24:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20010111112422.14350.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) From: leo_fwchan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Thu Jan 11 19:24:22 HKT 2001 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks Aandi, In my case, I need to attach a huge raw data file into PDF. It may be up to several Mbyte and it does not visible in the PDF. Would u advise which method is better for handling and extract it later easiler? Thanks for your help!! Leo P.S. I still modify cos stream method in my program . The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com >__________________________________________________________________ > >> I have a doubts in using API to embed a data file into PDF. >> Using new a cos stream to get the data file, but I'm not >> fully understand the progress. >> >> The following is my program which is try to embed b.dat into >> a.pdf, but it doesn't work >> >... >> cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc, true, stm, 0, true, >> attributesDict, CosNewNull(), -1); >> ASFileClose (gFile); > >This does indeed create a stream, but it doesn't put it >anywhere. Unless it is attached to an existing object in >the PDF file, it won't be saved. > >And even if it was saved, you would have no way to find >it again. > >There are a number of places in a PDF file where you can >add your own data. One of the most useful is in a custom >annotation object, but this is not the only possibility. > >Aandi > >Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- =================================================================== ·s®ö§K¶O¹q¤l¶l½c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk ·s®ö¦³¼úEcard"íb"¨Î¸` http://ecards1.sina.com.hk/info.cgi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jan-2001 12:14:53-GMT,3476;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08029 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 05:14:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12469; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:06:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:00:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12218; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:00:54 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12209 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:00:47 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA03063 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:00:53 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:00:42 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c07bc6$1fb6f940$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010111112422.14350.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Thanks Aandi, In my case, I need to attach a huge raw data > file into PDF. > It may be up to several Mbyte and it does not visible in the > PDF. Would u advise which method is better for handling and > extract it later easiler? It will be visible to people looking inside the PDF, but won't appear on screen. If you don't want any visual evidence, an annotation may not be the best choice. If there is only one copy for the document, I'd recommend this method. 1. Register with Adobe for a company prefix. This will be a four letter code. This is important, though not everyone bothers, because it makes sure that all your changes will not interfere with changes made by any other developer. 2. Pick a location to store your private information. One obvious place is the root object. 3. Pick a key. For instance, if your company code is abcd, then a key of abcd_info might be used. 4. I'd recommend creating a dictionary rather than storing the object directly. This will give more flexibility and allow new objects in future, and keep the root object tidier. You would need code (a) check if abcd_info is an existing dictionary in the root object. If it does not exist, create an empty dictionary and store it. Make the dictionary indirect. (b) code to fetch the dictionary abcd_info Now you can use this dictionary to store any objects you like, with keys of your choice, and fetch them in future. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jan-2001 15:48:27-GMT,2883;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12628 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:48:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26040; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:33:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:26:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25615; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:26:15 -0600 Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [216.24.27.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25611 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:26:14 -0600 Received: from [216.24.8.159] (usr-tc-04-001.win.net [216.24.8.1]) (authenticated) by ns1.win.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0BFQC308978 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:26:12 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: tangram@pop3.win.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010104065450.0278f6d8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010104065450.0278f6d8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:31:49 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: DaleH Subject: Re: [PDF] Geneva License restriction? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com >__________________________________________________________________ > >Through MacOS 8.6.1, Apple insisted on protecting their TrueType fonts >against "print and preview embedding" which effectively prevented them from >legally being embedded in PDF files (beginning with 4.0, Acrobat Distiller >observes the licensing restrictions of TrueType fonts as expressed >in the font's >data structures). > >Apple relented beginning with MacOS 9 and those TrueType fonts now permit >embedding for print and preview. Update to at least MacOS 9 and the problem >will "go away" when the new fonts are installed. > > - Dov > >PS: As far as we know, Apple has NOT made the fonts separately available for >update under earlier MacOS versions. > Is there anything to prevent moving OS 9 fonts to earlier System Folders? 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I am getting a beige tint showing on grayscale images and in some areas where I have placed white boxes to conceal elements. These show on the screen, but do not appear to affect printout. Can anyone tell me what's going on? Acrobat 4.0.5a, Mac G3, 17" AppleVision monitor, standard graphics card (whatever that is), OS 9.0.4. Files are from PageMaker 6.52 and Canvas 7; printed to postscript file, then PDFed using Acrobat Distiller 4.0.5. Cecking in those programs shows no colour component in the elements which appear tinted in Acrobat. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller hot folders References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We send files over a network to an NT server as well. I believe that the documentation for distiller says that it waits for files to stabilize before processing them, however, I have experienced pdf's that are incomplete. That is, some parts of the original postscript file show up while other parts are missed -- sometimes most of the document is missing. In order to compensate for this problem (it was a big problem that was more than occasional), we set up a pair of batch files with some simple logic to control the transferring of the files. We have not had a problem since. -rem Brian Harned wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Yes, Distiller will wait until the file is completely transferred into the > folder before it begins parsing. This should hold true if you are copying > or printing files to the watched folder. > > Brian Harned > Digital Document Services > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of John Andrew Herrin > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:40 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Distiller hot folders > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > When using Distiller's hot folder setup I was wondering if Distiller is > smart enough to wait for a file to stabilize before it starts trying to > process the postscript. > > We transfer files over a network to an NT server running Distiller. Will > Distiller wait for the file to completely spool in (stabilize) or is there > does Distiller start processing the file after a certain amount of time > regardless of the files transfer stage. > > Thanks in advance for the help. > > John Herrin > jaherrin@iupui.edu > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert McKinley Design Engineer Allied Machine & Engineering Corp. 330-343-4283 ext. 7283 FAX 364-7666 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 1:58:03-GMT,2886;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00369 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:58:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29779; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:57:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:49:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29440; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:49:37 -0600 Received: from hk.sina.com.hk ([202.85.139.109]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA29436 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:49:35 -0600 Received: (qmail 25763 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jan 2001 01:53:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20010112015329.25762.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) From: leo_fwchan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Fri Jan 12 09:53:29 HKT 2001 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have modified my program as follow, It is successful to point embeded file but there is an exception error in CosNewStream(). P.S. I know the stream block size must small than 32KB, so I decide to try a small embeded file firstly. Thanks your for your advice. Leo //---------- API code --------------------------------------- DURING name = ASFileSysPathFromDIPath (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), "/c/embed.dat", NULL); if (name==NULL) AVAlertNote("not yet"); rtn = ASFileSysOpenFile (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), name, ASFILE_READ, &gFile); if (rtn!=0) AVAlertNote("not yet"); attributesDict = CosNewDict(cdoc, false, 1L); Length_K = ASAtomFromString("myFile"); LengthEntry = CosNewInteger(cdoc, false, 30085); CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, LengthEntry); stm= ASFileStmRdOpen (gFile,30085); cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc, true, stm, 0, true, attributesDict, CosNewNull(), 30085); CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, cStmObj); ASFileClose (gFile); HANDLER sprintf(buf, "Exception raised: %d",ERRORCODE); AVAlertNote(buf); END_HANDLER =================================================================== ·s®ö§K¶O¹q¤l¶l½c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk ·s®ö¦³¼úEcard"íb"¨Î¸` http://ecards1.sina.com.hk/info.cgi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 3:16:49-GMT,3810;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01958 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:16:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02653; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:16:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:10:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02133; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:09:59 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA02129 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:09:58 -0600 Received: from [63.100.177.98] ([63.100.177.70]) by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 137075 via TCP with SMTP; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:11:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@38.164.135.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010112015329.25762.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> References: <20010112015329.25762.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:07:47 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >DURING > name = ASFileSysPathFromDIPath (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), >"/c/embed.dat", NULL); > if (name==NULL) AVAlertNote("not yet"); > > rtn = ASFileSysOpenFile (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), name, ASFILE_READ, &gFile); > if (rtn!=0) AVAlertNote("not yet"); > > attributesDict = CosNewDict(cdoc, false, 1L); > Length_K = ASAtomFromString("myFile"); You need to use "Length"; not "myFile" if you are adding a Length item to the dictionary. You can get the actual file length with something like this: ASInt32 theFileLength = ASFileGetEOF( theASFile ) ; theLengthCosObj = CosNewInteger( theCosDoc, false, theFileLength ) ; > LengthEntry = CosNewInteger(cdoc, false, 30085); > CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, LengthEntry); > > stm= ASFileStmRdOpen (gFile,30085); ASFileStmRdOpen can open the file and read the entire file into a file stream. 0 means to use the default buffer size. theFileASStm = ASFileStmRdOpen( theASFile, 0 ) ; > > cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc, true, stm, 0, true, attributesDict, >CosNewNull(), 30085); > CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, cStmObj); I really don't know why you are trying to put the stream into the streams attributes dict here. I would guess you really want to place the stream into a different Cos dict. > ASFileClose (gFile); >HANDLER > sprintf(buf, "Exception raised: %d",ERRORCODE); > AVAlertNote(buf); >END_HANDLER This might be easier: theStreamCosObj = CosNewStream( theCosDoc, true, // indirect theFileASStm, // stream -1, // stmStartPos true, // stmDataIsDecoded theAttributesDict, // attributesDict theNullCosObj, // encodeParams -1 ) ; // decodeLength ASStmClose( theFileASStm ) ; // Close the file stream Regards, -- Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 60 South Lansdowne Avenue Lansdowne, PA 19050 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 5:09:14-GMT,3178;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04238 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:09:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07964; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:09:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:02:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07649; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:02:53 -0600 Received: from hk.sina.com.hk ([202.85.139.109]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA07645 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:02:51 -0600 Received: (qmail 8481 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jan 2001 05:06:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20010112050648.8480.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) From: leo_fwchan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Fri Jan 12 13:06:48 HKT 2001 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks Mark and Aandi, I rewrite the API as follows: //----- code ------------------------------------------- DURING name = ASFileSysPathFromDIPath (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), "/c/embed.dat", NULL); if (name==NULL) AVAlertNote("not yet"); rtn = ASFileSysOpenFile (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), name, ASFILE_READ, &asFile); if (rtn!=0) AVAlertNote("not yet"); theFileLength = ASFileGetEOF( asFile ) ; attributesDict = CosNewDict(cdoc, false, 1L); Length_K = ASAtomFromString("Length"); LengthEntry = CosNewInteger(cdoc, false, theFileLength); CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, LengthEntry); stm= ASFileStmRdOpen (asFile,0); cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc,true,stm, -1,true, attributesDict, CosNewNull(), -1 ) ; ASStmClose( stm ) ; // Close the file stream HANDLER sprintf(buf, "Exception raised: %d",ERRORCODE); AVAlertNote(buf); END_HANDLER //---------- end --------------------------------------------------- I find it seen properly but the saved PDF file size increase only 6 Bytes. The embeded data file "embed.dat" have 30K/50K Bytes !! Does the program is not work or I make misunderstanding? P.S. if it work, I have not any identification for embeded data files? Can I add any id for it? Thanks for any advice!! Leo ------------------------------------------------------------ People is working and working then taste the success fruit! =================================================================== ·s®ö§K¶O¹q¤l¶l½c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk ·s®ö¦³¼úEcard"íb"¨Î¸` http://ecards1.sina.com.hk/info.cgi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 5:54:04-GMT,2788;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05075 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:54:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10027; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:54:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:47:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09735; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:46:59 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA09731 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:46:57 -0600 Received: from [63.100.177.98] ([63.100.177.70]) by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 137233 via TCP with SMTP; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:48:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@38.164.135.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010112050648.8480.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> References: <20010112050648.8480.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:44:48 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I find it seen properly but the saved PDF file size increase only 6 Bytes. >The embeded data file "embed.dat" have 30K/50K Bytes !! Does the >program is not work or I make misunderstanding? > >P.S. if it work, I have not any identification for embeded data >files? Can I add any id for it? Creating a stream inside a PDF file is useless if the stream is not attached to an object in the file. When the file is saved by Acrobat; unattached (orphaned) Cos objects will be purged (garbage collected). For example, you might want to attach the stream to the page root or the info dictionary; someplace where it can easily be retrieved when you want to extract the data from the PDF file. Regards, -- Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 60 South Lansdowne Avenue Lansdowne, PA 19050 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 10:51:56-GMT,3830;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10705 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 03:51:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22829; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:51:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:43:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22345; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:43:32 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22341 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:43:30 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01393 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:43:34 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:43:27 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c07c84$7ff27fa0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <20010112015329.25762.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > DURING > name = ASFileSysPathFromDIPath (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), > "/c/embed.dat", NULL); > if (name==NULL) AVAlertNote("not yet"); > > rtn = ASFileSysOpenFile (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), name, > ASFILE_READ, &gFile); > if (rtn!=0) AVAlertNote("not yet"); > > attributesDict = CosNewDict(cdoc, false, 1L); > Length_K = ASAtomFromString("myFile"); > LengthEntry = CosNewInteger(cdoc, false, 30085); > CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, LengthEntry); It's easier to leave the Length key out and let Acrobat work out the length and store the key for you...but that won't cause an exception. Bear in mind too that Acrobat can compress the stream just by adding /Filter /FlateDecode to the attributes dictionary, which is useful. > > stm= ASFileStmRdOpen (gFile,30085); I'd recommend a buffer size of 0, but what you have should be OK (it is less than 32K). > > cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc, true, stm, 0, true, > attributesDict, CosNewNull(), 30085); This looks OK, provided the stream is really that length. It's better to set the length to -1 to indicate that you want the whole file, whatever its length. > CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, cStmObj); I don't understand what you are doing here. You seem to be setting the Length key to the stream object. In fact, the attributesDict is taken away by CosNewStream and you should assume it has been destroyed. I'd expect an exception here, or even a crash. > ASFileClose (gFile); > HANDLER > sprintf(buf, "Exception raised: %d",ERRORCODE); Always use ASGetErrorString in your exception handlers if you want to know what the problem is - the numbers are fairly useless. I still can't see where you are storing the stream for later use, as discussed in the previous message. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 10:54:44-GMT,3792;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10773 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 03:54:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22988; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:54:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:47:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22569; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:47:43 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22565 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:47:41 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01406 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:47:46 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:47:39 -0000 Message-ID: <001701c07c85$15e38220$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <20010112050648.8480.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I rewrite the API as follows: > > //----- code ------------------------------------------- > DURING > name = ASFileSysPathFromDIPath (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), > "/c/embed.dat", NULL); > if (name==NULL) AVAlertNote("not yet"); > rtn = ASFileSysOpenFile (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), name, > ASFILE_READ, &asFile); > if (rtn!=0) AVAlertNote("not yet"); > > theFileLength = ASFileGetEOF( asFile ) ; > attributesDict = CosNewDict(cdoc, false, 1L); > Length_K = ASAtomFromString("Length"); > LengthEntry = CosNewInteger(cdoc, false, theFileLength); > CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, LengthEntry); > stm= ASFileStmRdOpen (asFile,0); > > cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc,true,stm, -1,true, > attributesDict, CosNewNull(), -1 ) ; > ASStmClose( stm ) ; // Close the file stream > HANDLER > sprintf(buf, "Exception raised: %d",ERRORCODE); > AVAlertNote(buf); > END_HANDLER > > //---------- end --------------------------------------------------- > > I find it seen properly but the saved PDF file size > increase only 6 Bytes. > The embeded data file "embed.dat" have 30K/50K Bytes !! Does > the program is not work or I make misunderstanding? You still aren't storing the information into the file! See my previous message with the steps starting "Register with Adobe for a company prefix..." The fact is, you are creating an object, but not connecting it to the file. This means you could not find it the next time the file is opened. And since NOBODY could find it, Acrobat removes it. > > P.S. if it work, I have not any identification for embeded > data files? Can I add any id for it? This is up to you - you can store identification and other information in the private dictionary you add to the file. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 13:50:21-GMT,1977;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13769 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 06:50:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30536; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:33:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:25:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29985; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:25:04 -0600 Received: from xchg.Lantech.com ([206.115.87.136]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29979 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:25:01 -0600 Received: by XCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:30:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3A38C95C7C8ED311A3FD0060B0576898101338@XCHG> From: Bill Fleming To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Off Topic but... HELP! Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:30:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone out there know where I can download a PPD file for a Canon Colorpass S900-950? Canon's site either doesn't have it or I have overlooked it. Ditto with Adobe's site. Thanks Bill F In Kentucky Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 14:19:50-GMT,2888;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14446 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:19:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00200; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:08:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:02:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA32515; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:02:43 -0600 Received: from gate.bowne.com ([12.29.196.82]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32511 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:02:41 -0600 Received: from cbmaws003.bis.bowne.com (btefw2.bowne.com [12.29.196.5]) by gate.bowne.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA23206 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by CBMAWS003 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:58:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Vorel, Michael" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Off Topic but... HELP! Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:57:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Look on EFI's website... www.efi.com Michael Vorel Emerging Technologies Consultant Bowne Business Solutions 212-351-9019 - Voice 212-351-9109 - Fax michael.vorel@bowne.com -----Original Message----- From: Bill Fleming [mailto:BillF@lantech.com] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:30 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Off Topic but... HELP! The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone out there know where I can download a PPD file for a Canon Colorpass S900-950? Canon's site either doesn't have it or I have overlooked it. Ditto with Adobe's site. Thanks Bill F In Kentucky Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 14:33:13-GMT,2157;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14721 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:33:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01464; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:24:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:19:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01073; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:19:25 -0600 Received: from imo-r17.mx.aol.com (imo-r17.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01069 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:19:24 -0600 From: ImagingSys@aol.com Received: from ImagingSys@aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id j.90.eb9ce74 (3976) for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:18:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <90.eb9ce74.27906c4d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:18:53 EST Subject: Re: [PDF] Off Topic but... HELP! To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In a message dated 1/12/01 09:36:51 AM, BillF@lantech.com writes: << Does anyone out there know where I can download a PPD file for a Canon Colorpass S900-950? >> Perhaps search on ColorPASS-Net or call Canon tech support. Anyway, I will send you what I have direct. Hope it works. Email me direct if you need more help. Dave K. in Jersey Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 15:33:00-GMT,2418;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16185 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:32:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05199; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:19:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:13:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04699; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:13:30 -0600 Received: from relay.UK.COLT.NET (relay.UK.COLT.NET [195.110.64.110]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04691 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:13:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 24407 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 15:13:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO compictserver.completepicture.co.uk) (213.86.13.126) by relay.UK.COLT.NET with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 15:13:08 -0000 Received: by COMPICTSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:13:25 -0000 Message-ID: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CEA1@COMPICTSERVER> From: Paul To: "'pdf zone'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3 Transtions Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:14:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello All, Does anybody know if the page transitions found on the Acrobat 3 CD in the utility folder work with Acrobat 4. They are EPS files that bring at bit of motion to a page. They aren't on the 4 disk and dont seem to work on V4. Bit of a shame. Paul Dennis Complete Picture UK Ltd 101 Coppergate House 16 Brune St London E1 7NJ Tel 020 7721 7766 Fax 020 7721 7984 http://www.completepicture.co.uk Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 15:34:51-GMT,4634;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16241 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:34:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05211; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:19:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:13:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04700; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:13:30 -0600 Received: from relay.UK.COLT.NET (relay.UK.COLT.NET [195.110.64.110]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04692 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:13:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 24421 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 15:13:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO compictserver.completepicture.co.uk) (213.86.13.126) by relay.UK.COLT.NET with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 15:13:08 -0000 Received: by COMPICTSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:13:25 -0000 Message-ID: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CE9E@COMPICTSERVER> From: Paul To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:07:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA04694 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello, There is a plug in called pdf embedder You should be able to get it via pdf zone tools. This allows you to embed data and then provide a link to extract. Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: leo_fwchan [mailto:leo_fwchan@sinaman.com] > Sent: 11 January 2001 19:24 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Thanks Aandi, In my case, I need to attach a huge raw data > file into PDF. > It may be up to several Mbyte and it does not visible in the > PDF. Would u advise which method is better for handling and > extract it later easiler? > > Thanks for your help!! > > Leo > P.S. I still modify cos stream method in my program . > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > >> I have a doubts in using API to embed a data file into PDF. > >> Using new a cos stream to get the data file, but I'm not > >> fully understand the progress. > >> > >> The following is my program which is try to embed b.dat into > >> a.pdf, but it doesn't work > >> > >... > >> cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc, true, stm, 0, true, > >> attributesDict, CosNewNull(), -1); > >> ASFileClose (gFile); > > > >This does indeed create a stream, but it doesn't put it > >anywhere. Unless it is attached to an existing object in > >the PDF file, it won't be saved. > > > >And even if it was saved, you would have no way to find > >it again. > > > >There are a number of places in a PDF file where you can > >add your own data. One of the most useful is in a custom > >annotation object, but this is not the only possibility. > > > >Aandi > > > >Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------- > > > =================================================================== > ·s®ö§K¶O¹q¤l¶l½c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk > ·s®ö¦³¼úEcard"íb"¨Î¸` http://ecards1.sina.com.hk/info.cgi > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 15:41:23-GMT,4634;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16436 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:41:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06541; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:31:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:26:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05881; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:26:06 -0600 Received: from relay.UK.COLT.NET (relay.UK.COLT.NET [195.110.64.110]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05867 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:26:02 -0600 Received: (qmail 27583 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 15:25:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO compictserver.completepicture.co.uk) (213.86.13.126) by relay.UK.COLT.NET with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 15:25:30 -0000 Received: by COMPICTSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:25:48 -0000 Message-ID: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CE9E@COMPICTSERVER> From: Paul To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:07:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA05872 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello, There is a plug in called pdf embedder You should be able to get it via pdf zone tools. This allows you to embed data and then provide a link to extract. Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: leo_fwchan [mailto:leo_fwchan@sinaman.com] > Sent: 11 January 2001 19:24 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Thanks Aandi, In my case, I need to attach a huge raw data > file into PDF. > It may be up to several Mbyte and it does not visible in the > PDF. Would u advise which method is better for handling and > extract it later easiler? > > Thanks for your help!! > > Leo > P.S. I still modify cos stream method in my program . > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > >> I have a doubts in using API to embed a data file into PDF. > >> Using new a cos stream to get the data file, but I'm not > >> fully understand the progress. > >> > >> The following is my program which is try to embed b.dat into > >> a.pdf, but it doesn't work > >> > >... > >> cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc, true, stm, 0, true, > >> attributesDict, CosNewNull(), -1); > >> ASFileClose (gFile); > > > >This does indeed create a stream, but it doesn't put it > >anywhere. Unless it is attached to an existing object in > >the PDF file, it won't be saved. > > > >And even if it was saved, you would have no way to find > >it again. > > > >There are a number of places in a PDF file where you can > >add your own data. One of the most useful is in a custom > >annotation object, but this is not the only possibility. > > > >Aandi > > > >Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------- > > > =================================================================== > ·s®ö§K¶O¹q¤l¶l½c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk > ·s®ö¦³¼úEcard"íb"¨Î¸` http://ecards1.sina.com.hk/info.cgi > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 15:45:04-GMT,2418;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16511 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:45:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06542; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:31:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:26:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05882; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:26:06 -0600 Received: from relay.UK.COLT.NET (relay.UK.COLT.NET [195.110.64.110]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05871 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:26:03 -0600 Received: (qmail 27697 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2001 15:25:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO compictserver.completepicture.co.uk) (213.86.13.126) by relay.UK.COLT.NET with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 15:25:43 -0000 Received: by COMPICTSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:25:48 -0000 Message-ID: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CEA1@COMPICTSERVER> From: Paul To: "'pdf zone'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3 Transtions Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:14:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello All, Does anybody know if the page transitions found on the Acrobat 3 CD in the utility folder work with Acrobat 4. They are EPS files that bring at bit of motion to a page. They aren't on the 4 disk and dont seem to work on V4. Bit of a shame. Paul Dennis Complete Picture UK Ltd 101 Coppergate House 16 Brune St London E1 7NJ Tel 020 7721 7766 Fax 020 7721 7984 http://www.completepicture.co.uk Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 20:08:02-GMT,2535;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24093 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:08:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21652; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:55:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:50:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21180; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:50:10 -0600 Received: from prserv.net (out4.prserv.net [32.97.166.34]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21172 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:50:07 -0600 Message-Id: <200101121950.NAA21172@everglades.binc.net> Received: from slip-32-102-179-73.ny.us.prserv.net ([32.102.179.73]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2001011219500320400fcmaie>; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:50:05 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "OS2 Users Group" , "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Cc: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:49:15 +0700 X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PDF] Postscript driver configuration Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Using a s/w interpreter in my PC to convert a PS file to TIF, I encounter the error message: "Reading "K:\qli.ps" File Size = 258698 bytes Processing... Error: Your printer driver needs to be configured for printing to a PostScript Level 1 printer." However when I select Options in the Print Menu under Adobe Reader for my Apple Laserjet II NT driver (V 30.509), the Postscript Level 1 Compatibility option is greyed. What is the fix please? AND! What other ways can I convert a PDF to a TIF or some other graphic format? Jeffrey Race Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 20:10:31-GMT,3098;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24165 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:10:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21388; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:53:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:47:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21042; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:47:04 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21038 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:47:03 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA11314 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28228; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G72EY100.EJ3; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:46:49 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010112114439.0286fc38@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:46:51 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Off Topic but... HELP! Cc: Bill Fleming In-Reply-To: <3A38C95C7C8ED311A3FD0060B0576898101338@XCHG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Bill, Contact Canon Tech Support. Adobe no longer distributes PPD files for printers (those posted are for very ancient and honorable devices prior to 1997 or so). Canon has an obligation under its OEM agreement with Adobe to provide the PPD files to its customers of devices containing Adobe PostScript such that these devices may be used with drivers. - Dov At 1/12/2001 05:30 AM, Bill Fleming wrote: >Does anyone out there know where I can download a PPD file for a Canon >Colorpass S900-950? > >Canon's site either doesn't have it or I have overlooked it. Ditto with >Adobe's site. > >Thanks > >Bill F >In Kentucky Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 20:29:58-GMT,3021;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24661 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:29:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22599; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:04:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:58:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21957; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:58:52 -0600 Received: from xchg.Lantech.com ([206.115.87.136]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21943 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:58:50 -0600 Received: by XCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:03:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3A38C95C7C8ED311A3FD0060B0576898101341@XCHG> From: Bill Fleming To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Off Topic but... HELP! Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:03:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks a bunch to all who resonded to my needs. I really do appreciate it! Bill F -----Original Message----- From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isaacs@Adobe.COM] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:47 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: Bill Fleming Subject: Re: [PDF] Off Topic but... HELP! The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Bill, Contact Canon Tech Support. Adobe no longer distributes PPD files for printers (those posted are for very ancient and honorable devices prior to 1997 or so). Canon has an obligation under its OEM agreement with Adobe to provide the PPD files to its customers of devices containing Adobe PostScript such that these devices may be used with drivers. - Dov At 1/12/2001 05:30 AM, Bill Fleming wrote: >Does anyone out there know where I can download a PPD file for a Canon >Colorpass S900-950? > >Canon's site either doesn't have it or I have overlooked it. Ditto with >Adobe's site. > >Thanks > >Bill F >In Kentucky Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 21:23:35-GMT,2808;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26118 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:23:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26518; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:14:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:08:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26239; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:08:20 -0600 Received: from fxshpr06.is.chrysler.com (firewall-user@fxshpr06.extra.daimlerchrysler.com [208.154.80.165]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26235 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:08:19 -0600 From: lp5@daimlerchrysler.com Received: (from uucp@localhost) by fxshpr06.is.chrysler.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id QAA11711 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from nodnsquery(129.9.202.19) by fwshpr06.is.chrysler.com via smap (V5.5) id xma011649; Fri, 12 Jan 01 16:03:53 -0500 Received: from sodddg02.wk.dcx.com (lnaodd08-nf0.notes.chrysler.com [129.9.202.113]) by odmrspr1-pf0.oddc.chrysler.com (8.10.1/8.9.0/daimlerchrysler-relay-1.0-kcd) with ESMTP id f0CL7rY12120 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:07:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [PDF] Cannot collate multiple copies w/PS driver To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:07:13 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on sodddg02.wk.dcx.com/Server/Prod/DCX(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 01/12/2001 04:07:53 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We are using Windows 2000 & Acrobat Reader 4.05c. When printing from Reader to our HP5si MX printer using a PostScript driver we are unable to collate multiple copies - the option is 'grayed out'. When printing from other applications (eg Word), the collate option is available. Why is the option not available when printing from Acrobat? (The collate option is available to Acrobat when using the PCL driver.) Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Jan-2001 14:55:12-GMT,4005;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12321 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 07:55:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20973; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:41:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:30:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20325; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:30:10 -0600 Received: from femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (femail3.rdc1.on.home.com [24.2.9.90]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20321 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:30:08 -0600 Received: from [24.43.209.71] by femail3.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010114142942.TPXQ22375.femail3.rdc1.on.home.com@[24.43.209.71]> for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:29:42 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:31:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 3 Transtions From: Jason Belec To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CEA1@COMPICTSERVER> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Of course they work. These pages were originally done way back then, and that component has always remained. http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf -- Jason Belec :)~ pdfworkflows@home.com Digital Workflows Specialist, (613) 824-2243 EST especially PDF "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training PDF Course Instructor CEO & President Document Computing Institute NOITAMINANIMATION ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Articles of interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web site of interest: http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf > From: Paul > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:14:40 -0000 > To: "'pdf zone'" > Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3 Transtions > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hello All, > > Does anybody know if the page transitions found on the Acrobat 3 CD in the > utility folder work with Acrobat 4. They are EPS files that bring at bit of > motion to a page. They aren't on the 4 disk and dont seem to work on V4. > Bit of a shame. > > Paul Dennis > Complete Picture UK Ltd > 101 Coppergate House > 16 Brune St > London E1 7NJ > Tel 020 7721 7766 > Fax 020 7721 7984 > http://www.completepicture.co.uk > > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Jan-2001 1:50:14-GMT,4525;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24617 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:50:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13436; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:38:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:31:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13181; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:31:10 -0600 Received: from hk.sina.com.hk ([202.85.139.107]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA13177 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:31:07 -0600 Received: (qmail 19747 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jan 2001 01:32:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20010115013242.19745.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> X-Mailer: SinaMail 3.0Beta (FireToad) From: leo_fwchan To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: RE: RE: [PDF] Embed a data file into PDF Date: Mon Jan 15 09:32:42 HKT 2001 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi! Aandi and Mark, >1. Register with Adobe for a company prefix. This will be >a four letter code. This is important, though not everyone >bothers, because it makes sure that all your changes will >not interfere with changes made by any other developer. I got a company prefix MYCO in hsData->extensionName of handshake callback function. attributesDict = CosNewDict(cdoc, false, 1L); so I change it into Length_K = ASAtomFromString("MYCO_info"); or Length_K = ASAtomFromString("Length"); LengthEntry = CosNewInteger(cdoc, false, theFileLength); CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, LengthEntry); But it doesn't work? >2. Pick a location to store your private information. One >obvious place is the root object. cosObjRoot= CosDocGetRoot (cosDoc); Mn, I do not know where need to use cosObjRoot since I use CosNewDict() to create own dict. >3. Pick a key. For instance, if your company code is abcd, >then a key of abcd_info might be used. this one? Length_K = ASAtomFromString("MYCO_info"); LengthEntry = CosNewInteger(cdoc, false, theFileLength); CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, LengthEntry); >4. I'd recommend creating a dictionary rather than storing >the object directly. This will give more flexibility and >allow new objects in future, and keep the root object >tidier. You would need code >(a) check if abcd_info is an existing dictionary in the >root object. If it does not exist, create an empty dictionary >and store it. Make the dictionary indirect. I made it former. and use "false" in argument. >(b) code to fetch the dictionary abcd_info >Now you can use this dictionary to store any objects you >like, with keys of your choice, and fetch them in future. My understand is: get ASFile pointer and File size then put them in new CosDict by CosDictPut(), that is attachment. Mn, it does not work!? Would you give me more advice. Thanks a lot!! Leo, junior API programmer //-------- reference code ---------------------------------- name = ASFileSysPathFromDIPath (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), "/c/embed.dat", NULL); if (name==NULL) AVAlertNote("not yet"); rtn = ASFileSysOpenFile (ASGetDefaultFileSys(), name, ASFILE_READ, &asFile); if (rtn!=0) AVAlertNote("not yet"); theFileLength = ASFileGetEOF( asFile ) ; attributesDict = CosNewDict(cdoc, false, 1L); Length_K = ASAtomFromString("MYCO_info"); or Length_K = ASAtomFromString("Length"); LengthEntry = CosNewInteger(cdoc, false, theFileLength); CosDictPut(attributesDict, Length_K, LengthEntry); stm= ASFileStmRdOpen (asFile,0); cStmObj = CosNewStream(cdoc,true,stm, -1,true, attributesDict, CosNewNull(), -1 ) ; ASFileClose (asFile); =================================================================== ·s®ö§K¶O¹q¤l¶l½c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk ·s®ö¦³¼úEcard"íb"¨Î¸` http://ecards1.sina.com.hk/info.cgi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Jan-2001 9:48:21-GMT,2870;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03602 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 02:48:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA31806; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:37:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:30:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA31583; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:30:44 -0600 Received: from proxy.surf.net.au (ip-69-7.surf.net.au [203.87.69.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA31579 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:30:41 -0600 Received: from [203.16.165.76] (ppp76.surf.net.au [203.16.165.76]) by proxy.surf.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15553 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:36:04 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gheard@mail.surf.net.au Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010115013242.19745.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> References: <20010115013242.19745.qmail@hk.sina.com.hk> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:30:30 +1100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Geoffrey Heard Subject: [PDF] Problems printing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi people I have a file, printed to file for PS from Canvas 7 using my HP LJ4MP PPD then PDFed by Distiller 4.05, which comes up with an error every time I try to print from Acrobat Reader 4.05a to the LJ4MP. Initially it printed but Acrobat was shrinking it and slicing a millimetre or two off the left and right edges. I solved that (following wisdom garnered from this list) by setting it to view the whole page and unchecking the shrink page printing option (or whatever it is called in v.4). Screen representation is fine -- but it won't print. The file contains 1 photograph placed as a TIF, and one import3ed little PICT illustration. The same PS file ripped by Distiller 3 will not print from Reader 4, BUT it prints fine from Acrobat 3 witgh view to edge of page and print without shrinking the poor thing applied. Mac G3 beige, OS9.0.4. Any ideas about what could be stopping 4? Cheers, Geoff Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Jan-2001 11:18:24-GMT,2430;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA05135 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 04:18:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA02951; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 05:07:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jan 2001 05:00:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA02585; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 05:00:36 -0600 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA02566 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 05:00:29 -0600 Received: from lpiper.demon.co.uk ([158.152.165.240] helo=postle.net) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14I7N9-0000YS-0W for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:00:23 +0000 Message-ID: <3A62D824.1A7A7997@postle.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:59:48 +0000 From: Denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb]C-NSCPCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Missing ppd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ After a recent comprehensive system crash I have 'upgraded' to W2000Pro. One irritating outcome is that following the Quark/Acrobat/Distiller install... the applications can't find the Distiller ppd. It's in the system folders but only the generic color ppd is accessible and this give unacceptable .pdf output. (Quark output to an Epson color 800 is OK) Is there is an incompatibility between Distiller V 4.05 1026 and W2000pro? and/or is there an update for W2000pro/Distiller? Any other suggestions? Denis Postle Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Jan-2001 12:34:51-GMT,2641;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA06383 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 05:34:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07518; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:25:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:19:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07190; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:19:43 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07185 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:19:41 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA07461 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:19:47 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Missing ppd Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:19:37 -0000 Message-ID: <001801c07eed$6dffbf40$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <3A62D824.1A7A7997@postle.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > > One irritating outcome is that following the Quark/Acrobat/Distiller > install... the applications can't find the Distiller ppd. It's in the > system folders but only the generic color ppd is accessible and this > give unacceptable .pdf output. (Quark output to an Epson color 800 is > OK) > > Is there is an incompatibility between Distiller V 4.05 1026 and > W2000pro? and/or is there an update for W2000pro/Distiller? Any other > suggestions? Surely, the incompatibility, if it is anywhere, is in QuarkXPress? Distiller isn't even involved, and Windows doesn't offer any "PPD service" to applications. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Jan-2001 20:22:33-GMT,3949;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15693 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:22:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31577; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:13:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:08:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31256; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:08:30 -0600 Received: from smtpnew.quark.com (root@smtpnew.quark.com [206.195.78.16]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31252 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:08:29 -0600 Received: from denver.quark.com (denver.quark.com [206.195.71.192]) by smtpnew.quark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21609 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:29:05 -0700 Received: by denver.quark.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:07:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C08734CAD@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Missing ppd Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:07:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Denis, QuarkXPress on W2K and NT looks for PPDs here: C:\WINNT\System32\spool\drivers\w32x86\2. You can check where QuarkXPress is looking for PPDs on your machine by going to the Utilities>PPD Manager in XPress; it will tell you the location it's looking for PPDs and let you path anywhere you like for where it will look for them in the future. HTH, Todd Reid QA Engineer Quark, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Denis [mailto:denis@postle.net] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:45 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing ppd The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Ok I'll look into via the Quark resources Thanks Denis Aandi Inston wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > One irritating outcome is that following the Quark/Acrobat/Distiller > > install... the applications can't find the Distiller ppd. It's in the > > system folders but only the generic color ppd is accessible and this > > give unacceptable .pdf output. (Quark output to an Epson color 800 is > > OK) > > > > Is there is an incompatibility between Distiller V 4.05 1026 and > > W2000pro? and/or is there an update for W2000pro/Distiller? Any other > > suggestions? > > Surely, the incompatibility, if it is anywhere, is in QuarkXPress? > Distiller isn't even involved, and Windows doesn't offer any > "PPD service" to applications. > > Aandi > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Jan-2001 20:25:59-GMT,3041;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15791 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:25:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA30075; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:54:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:45:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29458; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:45:41 -0600 Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29440 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:45:30 -0600 Received: from lpiper.demon.co.uk ([158.152.165.240] helo=postle.net) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14IFZI-000JtA-0C for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:45:28 +0000 Message-ID: <3A635339.2201085C@postle.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:44:57 +0000 From: Denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb]C-NSCPCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing ppd References: <001801c07eed$6dffbf40$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Ok I'll look into via the Quark resources Thanks Denis Aandi Inston wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > One irritating outcome is that following the Quark/Acrobat/Distiller > > install... the applications can't find the Distiller ppd. It's in the > > system folders but only the generic color ppd is accessible and this > > give unacceptable .pdf output. (Quark output to an Epson color 800 is > > OK) > > > > Is there is an incompatibility between Distiller V 4.05 1026 and > > W2000pro? and/or is there an update for W2000pro/Distiller? Any other > > suggestions? > > Surely, the incompatibility, if it is anywhere, is in QuarkXPress? > Distiller isn't even involved, and Windows doesn't offer any > "PPD service" to applications. > > Aandi > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Jan-2001 21:40:06-GMT,5003;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17417 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:40:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04241; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:24:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:18:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03887; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:18:22 -0600 Received: from gate.bowne.com ([12.29.196.82]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03883 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:18:21 -0600 Received: from cbmaws003.bis.bowne.com (btefw2.bowne.com [12.29.196.5]) by gate.bowne.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA05889 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by CBMAWS003 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:13:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Vorel, Michael" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Missing PPD Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:13:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I do not believe this is a true statement. Most subdirectories under ..\w32x86 are built by multiple user ID's and applications. This is totally a site\culture anomaly. Some servers never see any numeric subdirectories and others see several. This is all in the implementation by each environment. In particular as different apps build print queues with different processes. (Microsoft versus vendor specific versus Adobe drivers) Michael Vorel Emerging Technologies Consultant Bowne Business Solutions 212-351-9019 - Voice 212-351-9109 - Fax michael.vorel@bowne.com -----Original Message----- From: Todd Reid [mailto:TReid@quark.com] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:08 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Missing ppd The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Denis, QuarkXPress on W2K and NT looks for PPDs here: C:\WINNT\System32\spool\drivers\w32x86\2. You can check where QuarkXPress is looking for PPDs on your machine by going to the Utilities>PPD Manager in XPress; it will tell you the location it's looking for PPDs and let you path anywhere you like for where it will look for them in the future. HTH, Todd Reid QA Engineer Quark, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Denis [mailto:denis@postle.net] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:45 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing ppd The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Ok I'll look into via the Quark resources Thanks Denis Aandi Inston wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > One irritating outcome is that following the Quark/Acrobat/Distiller > > install... the applications can't find the Distiller ppd. It's in the > > system folders but only the generic color ppd is accessible and this > > give unacceptable .pdf output. (Quark output to an Epson color 800 is > > OK) > > > > Is there is an incompatibility between Distiller V 4.05 1026 and > > W2000pro? and/or is there an update for W2000pro/Distiller? Any other > > suggestions? > > Surely, the incompatibility, if it is anywhere, is in QuarkXPress? > Distiller isn't even involved, and Windows doesn't offer any > "PPD service" to applications. > > Aandi > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Jan-2001 4:46:29-GMT,3211;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA26187 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:46:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22880; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:31:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:23:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22294; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:23:37 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22290 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:23:36 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA12806 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06576; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ISAACS-REMOTE.adobe.com ([153.32.18.30]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G78MUU00.6OV; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:23:18 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS-REMOTE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010115202139.01cbdec8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:23:14 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing ppd Cc: Denis In-Reply-To: <3A62D824.1A7A7997@postle.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 1/15/2001 02:59 AM, Denis wrote: >After a recent comprehensive system crash I have 'upgraded' to W2000Pro. > >One irritating outcome is that following the Quark/Acrobat/Distiller >install... the applications can't find the Distiller ppd. It's in the >system folders but only the generic color ppd is accessible and this >give unacceptable .pdf output. (Quark output to an Epson color 800 is >OK) > >Is there is an incompatibility between Distiller V 4.05 1026 and >W2000pro? and/or is there an update for W2000pro/Distiller? Any other >suggestions? > >Denis Postle Acrobat 4.05 is fully compatible with Windows 2000 (all flavours). Alas, it is not an operating system function to provide PPD services to programs. And that is certainly not an Acrobat issue. - Dov Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Jan-2001 13:34:54-GMT,2594;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06034 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:34:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14470; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:23:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:15:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14021; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:15:44 -0600 Received: from megamail.dsl.net (megamail.dsl.net [209.87.64.97]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14017 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 07:15:42 -0600 Received: from goprep.com (64-51-1-106.client.dsl.net [64.51.1.106]) by megamail.dsl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25318 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:15:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3A644A66.E559188A@goprep.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:19:38 -0500 From: cjmarch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Duo-tones distill as 4/color Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi, Problem: Freehand 8 duo-tone vignettes Distill as 4/color. Hardware/Software: Mac G4, OS 9, Acrobat 4.05, Freehand 8, Brisque RIP, Dolev 800 Plotter. Situation: 2 color job, (PMS 2587 & Black). Images (duo-tones) distill correctly. Duo-tone vignettes distill as 4/color. There is a 1/color vignette (PMS 2587) that distills correctly. When vignette has both colors in it is when problem occurs. The original Freehand 8 file is broken out into PMS 2587 & Black only. I'm guessing there is a fix somewhere in the distillation process, but I haven't stumbled across it yet. Solutions or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated! Pete Kogut Prep Inc. Buffalo, N.Y. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Jan-2001 15:31:14-GMT,2950;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08486 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:31:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22119; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:19:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:13:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21633; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:12:58 -0600 Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21629 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:12:57 -0600 Received: from lpiper.demon.co.uk ([158.152.165.240] helo=postle.net) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14IXmz-0002yF-0B for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:12:50 +0000 Message-ID: <3A6464C0.F95D5CAF@postle.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:12:00 +0000 From: Denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb]C-NSCPCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing ppd etc References: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C08734CAD@denver.quark.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ OK I've got the distiller ppd located in the Quark ppd manager... ...but now, perhaps due an uninstal-reinstal of Acrobat, Distiller has disappeared as a listed printer. Very tedious. Pdfwriter and the generic postscript printer are there but no Distiller printer. On previous installations it had seemed to be an automatic instal... Does anyone know how to restore it? Denis Postle Todd Reid wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Denis, > QuarkXPress on W2K and NT looks for PPDs here: > C:\WINNT\System32\spool\drivers\w32x86\2. You can check where QuarkXPress is > looking for PPDs on your machine by going to the Utilities>PPD Manager in > XPress; it will tell you the location it's looking for PPDs and let you path > anywhere you like for where it will look for them in the future. > > HTH, > > Todd Reid > QA Engineer > Quark, Inc. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Jan-2001 16:07:12-GMT,3459;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09732 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:07:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24951; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:57:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:51:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24614; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:51:25 -0600 Received: from mullis-morgan.com (mail.mullis-morgan.com [212.117.229.28]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24610 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:51:24 -0600 Received: from [212.117.229.26] by mullis-morgan.com (CommuniGate SMTP 3.1.3) with ESMTP id S.3361668679zh for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:48:38 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:50:48 +0000 Subject: Re: [PDF] Duo-tones distill as 4/color From: Steve Butler To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3A644A66.E559188A@goprep.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ The best way to get round these special colour problems (for us anyway) is to make a separated PDF then use Intense Seps2Comp plug-in for Acrobat (www.creoscitex.com). This will recombine the Separations into a composite pdf file. -- Steve Butler Brand Images Mullis Morgan Group Ltd > From: cjmarch > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:19:38 -0500 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Duo-tones distill as 4/color > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi, > > Problem: Freehand 8 duo-tone vignettes Distill as 4/color. > > Hardware/Software: Mac G4, OS 9, Acrobat 4.05, Freehand 8, Brisque RIP, > Dolev 800 Plotter. > > Situation: 2 color job, (PMS 2587 & Black). Images (duo-tones) distill > correctly. Duo-tone vignettes distill as 4/color. There is a 1/color > vignette (PMS 2587) that distills correctly. When vignette has both > colors in it is when problem occurs. The original Freehand 8 file is > broken out into PMS 2587 & Black only. > > I'm guessing there is a fix somewhere in the distillation process, but I > haven't stumbled across it yet. > > Solutions or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated! > > Pete Kogut > Prep Inc. > Buffalo, N.Y. > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Jan-2001 20:46:05-GMT,2356;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18428 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:46:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09405; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:27:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:16:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08646; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:16:36 -0600 Received: from ahab.ccrprocess.net ([206.96.41.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08642 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:16:35 -0600 From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Quark PDF's produce "yellow" boxes from "white" boxes X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:13:10 -0800 X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Trend MailScan on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/16/2001 12:12:29 PM, MIME-CD complete at 01/16/2001 12:12:29 PM, Serialize by Router on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/16/2001 12:12:40 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi! I am creating PDFs from Quark (4.0, PC) and when I print it on a Tektronic color laser, it prints out the individual image boxes w/ a yellow background. I went in Quark and made the box background from "white" to "none" which cleared out the text boxes. But, the .eps box still prints w/ yellow background, even after changing those. What can I do so it prints correctly? Thanks! Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Jan-2001 21:49:11-GMT,2620;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20552 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:49:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14240; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:35:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:29:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13769; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:29:19 -0600 Received: from aquamarine.tc.umn.edu (root@aquamarine.tc.umn.edu [160.94.5.26]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13765 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:29:17 -0600 Received: from [160.94.62.75] by aquamarine.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:29:16 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johns484@johns484.email.umn.edu Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:29:14 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marlene Johnshoy Subject: [PDF] embedded Chinese fonts Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I've searched the archives for this list and didn't find anything that helped on this topic. I've also been through all the manuals and help files I can find, and it still isn't working. I'm trying to convert MS Word files (on a Mac) with Chinese in them to pdf. I've installed the Adobe Acrobat Asian font support from the Acrobat 4.0 CD. I've used the CIDutility to convert fonts. I've told Distiller to always embed the Chinese fonts - and all fonts - but I still can't seem to get any of the Chinese fonts embedded. All the English fonts get embedded just fine - so I know it's doing the embedding. I've tried fiddling with all the options I can find, but no luck. How do I know if I'm using the right fonts? How do I get them embedded? Any one have any clues for me? Thanks for your help! Marlene Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Jan-2001 22:02:49-GMT,2648;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20992 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:02:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15645; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:53:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:48:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15286; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:48:32 -0600 Received: from smtp.interlog.com (bretweir.total.net [154.11.89.176]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA15282 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:48:31 -0600 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:48:31 -0600 Received: (qmail 17147 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2001 21:48:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?154.20.94.149?) (154.20.94.149) by bretweir.total.net with SMTP; 16 Jan 2001 21:48:27 -0000 X-Sender: mmccombs@pop.psi.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: [PDF] PDF plugin development Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ The recent discussion and exchange of "Embed a data file into PDF", has intrigued me. I was wondering if those on the list could start me in the right direction, to create modifications to the Acrobat (Exchange) as a plugin. 1) What language is suggested for MAC (Visual Basic, or API?) 2) Is there a developer kit, and where can I obtain one? 3) What is a recommended text editor (BBEdit, etc), or is there a specific editor in the developer kit? 4) Books? (for dummies?) 5) It was mentioned to obtain Registration with Adobe for developement, as stated in the stream of 'data Base embedding" discussion. Is this always required for development? At the moment, what I want to achieve is a Higlighted text at the end of a link, much like the native text search engine does in Acrobat Reader. Regards Murray Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Jan-2001 23:33:41-GMT,3523;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23875 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:33:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20581; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:18:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:12:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20286; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:12:50 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20279 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:12:48 -0600 Received: from [63.100.177.98] ([63.100.177.70]) by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 148810 via TCP with SMTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:14:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@38.164.135.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:10:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF plugin development Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >1) What language is suggested for MAC (Visual Basic, or API?) C or C++. > >2) Is there a developer kit, and where can I obtain one? Yes, free from the Adobe web site. http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/main.html > >3) What is a recommended text editor (BBEdit, etc), or is there a specific >editor in the developer kit? On the Mac; you will need to use MetroWerks CodeWarrior. You could use BBEdit with CodeWarrior; but, it's not necessary. CodeWarrior is an Integrated Development Environment (IDE) which includes a very nice editor. > >4) Books? (for dummies?) Only the Adobe documentation as far as I know. The Adobe SDK documentation is fairly well done and consists of many thousands of pages. I suggest you start with the "Getting Started Using the Adobe Acrobat Software Development Kit". > >5) It was mentioned to obtain Registration with Adobe for developement, as >stated in the stream of 'data Base embedding" discussion. Is this always >required for development? Registering a plug-in prefix with Adobe is free. It just keeps multiple plug-ins from stepping on each other. If you want to write a plug-in for Acrobat Reader; you will need to sign a license agreement with Adobe and agree not save PDF files, etc. > >At the moment, what I want to achieve is a Higlighted text at the end of a >link, much like the native text search engine does in Acrobat Reader. Easy to do with the Acrobat SDK. Regards, -- Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 60 South Lansdowne Avenue Lansdowne, PA 19050 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Jan-2001 23:48:00-GMT,2514;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24256 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:47:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21787; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:37:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:32:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21515; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:32:06 -0600 Received: from mx02.together.net (mx02.together.net [209.91.0.62]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21511 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:32:05 -0600 Received: from [192.168.0.9] (offsethouse.com [209.91.9.53]) by mx02.together.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23878 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:00:29 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:29:58 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: exitserver error From: Will Mitchell To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Greetings, I was distilling a postcript file created in Corel 9 (pc) and received an exitserver:permanent state may be changed. Offending command: colspRefresh. I have been unsuccessful in finding this error code. Can anyone tell me what it is so I can kindly inform our customer as to why their file wont work. I tried distilling on both Mac/PC using 3.02 on PC and 4.0 on Mac with the same result. Running the PS file through PCC Workflow yields this result:unmatched mark Offending command: cleartomark. Any help would be appreciated. Will Mitchell will@offsethouse.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 0:16:32-GMT,2168;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24925 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:16:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23376; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:06:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:00:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23127; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:00:44 -0600 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23117 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:00:41 -0600 Received: from [63.46.8.144] (1Cust144.tnt12.nyc1.da.uu.net [63.46.8.144]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11112 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:00:34 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: dmjgraphics@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:00:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Don Montalvo Subject: [PDF] "Edit image"...EPS Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have a PDF that I need to edit, namely to color adjust an EPS image that is used within the file. When I control-click (Mac) it, it launches Photoshop and I get prompted for raster info...is this normal? -- Don Montalvo (From home - OS9.1/Eudora 5.0.1) Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 3:23:10-GMT,3128;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29043 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:23:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA31064; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:11:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:04:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA30678; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:04:50 -0600 Received: from gtei1.bellatlantic.net (gtei1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.40.145]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA30674 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:04:49 -0600 Received: from [151.203.71.33] (adsl-151-203-71-33.bostma.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.203.71.33]) by gtei1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA14866 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:04:33 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:04:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark PDF's produce "yellow" boxes from "white" boxes From: Peter Manuelian To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ That's interesting. I get yellow background boxes on image captions, drop caps and other graphic elements on my Apple Cinema Display monitor, but on "normal" screens these boxes are their normal invisible white selves. Wonder if our issues are related in any way, or just an Apple digital monitor thing at my end? Cheers, Peter > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Hi! > > I am creating PDFs from Quark (4.0, PC) and when I print it on > a Tektronic color laser, it prints out the individual image boxes w/ a > yellow > background. > > I went in Quark and made the box background from "white" to "none" which > cleared out the text boxes. > > But, the .eps box still prints w/ yellow background, even after changing > those. > > What can I do so it prints correctly? > > Thanks! > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 7:19:35-GMT,4077;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA04077 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:19:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07936; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:05:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:58:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07648; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:58:34 -0600 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA07644 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:58:33 -0600 Received: (qmail 21800 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2001 06:58:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bartd) ([213.224.11.13]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2001 06:58:17 -0000 From: "Bart Demeulenaere" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] embedded Chinese fonts Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:58:17 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi Marlene, Never tried embedding Chinese fonts with Distiller, but did play a lot with embedding Japanese fonts from within a plug-in. Most of the far-eastern fonts cannot be embedded completely because of copyright issues, so make sure to turn on the Subset-option under the job options. Also, point Distiller to the CIDFont and/or CMap folders that are under the Acrobat/Resource folder. Good luck, Bart Demeulenaere Enfocus Software > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Marlene Johnshoy > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:29 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] embedded Chinese fonts > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > I've searched the archives for this list and didn't find anything > that helped on this topic. > I've also been through all the manuals and help files I can find, and > it still isn't working. > > I'm trying to convert MS Word files (on a Mac) with Chinese in them > to pdf. I've installed the Adobe Acrobat Asian font support from the > Acrobat 4.0 CD. I've used the CIDutility to convert fonts. I've > told Distiller to always embed the Chinese fonts - and all fonts - > but I still can't seem to get any of the Chinese fonts embedded. All > the English fonts get embedded just fine - so I know it's doing the > embedding. > > I've tried fiddling with all the options I can find, but no luck. > > How do I know if I'm using the right fonts? How do I get them embedded? > Any one have any clues for me? > > Thanks for your help! > > Marlene > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 8:42:11-GMT,2338;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA05615 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:42:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11838; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 02:27:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 02:21:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11496; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 02:21:41 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11492 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 02:21:39 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA15986 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:21:40 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] "Edit image"...EPS Question Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:21:38 -0000 Message-ID: <051701c0805e$83f497e0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I have a PDF that I need to edit, namely to color adjust an EPS image > that is used within the file. When I control-click (Mac) it, it > launches Photoshop and I get prompted for raster info...is this > normal? Is the EPS a raster image? What would you expect to happen instead? Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 8:42:26-GMT,2573;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA05619 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:42:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11839; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 02:27:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 02:21:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11468; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 02:21:02 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11464 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 02:21:00 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA15982 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:21:01 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: exitserver error Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:20:58 -0000 Message-ID: <051601c0805e$6c7baea0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Greetings, I was distilling a postcript file created in Corel > 9 (pc) and > received an exitserver:permanent state may be changed. > Offending command: > colspRefresh. I have been unsuccessful in finding this error code. This is not an error, but a combination of a warning message and an incomplete part of a different error. However, the cause of the "exitserver..." warning message is usually using the wrong PPD when creating the PostScript file. And many errors follow as a direct result of this bad PPD selection. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 10:35:56-GMT,3369;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07615 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 03:35:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA18019; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 04:35:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 04:27:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17590; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 04:27:42 -0600 Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA17586 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 04:27:40 -0600 Received: from overlord ([62.252.15.73]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010117102738.YWMK18404.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@overlord> for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:27:38 +0000 Message-ID: <003701c0806f$8b11d220$490ffc3e@overlord> From: "Andy Jones" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] "Edit image"...EPS Question Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:23:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ PhotoShop is a raster (bitmap) orientated program and not a vector orientated program. If you try and OPEN pdfs in PhotoShop you are asked to rasterize the image, whether the original is bitmap or vector. This is normal. Try using the IMPORT PDF IMAGE in the file menu of PhotoShop and see if this works. I don't know whether it is possible to launch the PhotoShop IMPORT PDF IMAGE from Acrobat. Best bet is ask Adobe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Montalvo" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:00 AM Subject: [PDF] "Edit image"...EPS Question > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > I have a PDF that I need to edit, namely to color adjust an EPS image > that is used within the file. When I control-click (Mac) it, it > launches Photoshop and I get prompted for raster info...is this > normal? > -- > Don Montalvo > (From home - OS9.1/Eudora 5.0.1) > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 11:29:12-GMT,2523;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA08597 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 04:29:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20800; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:29:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:22:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20465; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:22:10 -0600 Received: from mail.mascot.no (mail.mascot.no [195.204.80.195]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20461 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:22:07 -0600 Received: From MAIL.MASCOT.NO (195.204.80.195[195.204.80.195 port:3390]) by mail.mascot.no Mail essentials (server 2.422) with SMTP id: <6214@mail.mascot.no> for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:10:25 PM +0100 smtpmailfrom Received: by KOMSERVER3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:10:25 +0100 Message-ID: From: Erik Thoresen To: "'Acrobat-forum'" Subject: [PDF] Misplaced links after conversion Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:10:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I use Acrobat 4.0 and Win NT4. * When I convert Word 97 files to PDF the links sometimes appear on one page and the corresponding text appear on the next page. Do you know how to avoid this? I have tried to drag the links from one page to the next, but it seems impossible. * I would like to know if anyone knows how to convert several files to PDF in batches. Erik Thoresen Mascot Electronic as E-mail: erik.thoresen@mascot.no Web: www.mascot.no Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 12:00:56-GMT,3385;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09205 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:00:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22517; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:00:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:52:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22093; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:51:59 -0600 Received: from sma.de ([62.157.91.20]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA22089 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 05:51:55 -0600 Received: from SMA-DE-Message_Server by sma.de with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:51:32 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:50:49 +0100 From: "Gerald Salisbury" To: Subject: Antw: [PDF] Re: exitserver error Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA22090 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Greetings, you most likely have the wrong Postcript driver, a wrong font or a defective EPS file within your Corel Draw file. 1. Try a different Postscript driver for generating the Postscript file. 2. If that does not work convert all texts to curves and see what happens. If it works - it is the fonts. 3. If that does not work print only a part of your corel draw image in order to find out which part the "Bug" is in and take it out. It can be a really tiny little piece of "dust" within the image. Gerald I would think it is a defective element in the corel >>> Will Mitchell 17.01.2001 00.29 Uhr >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Greetings, I was distilling a postcript file created in Corel 9 (pc) and received an exitserver:permanent state may be changed. Offending command: colspRefresh. I have been unsuccessful in finding this error code. Can anyone tell me what it is so I can kindly inform our customer as to why their file wont work. I tried distilling on both Mac/PC using 3.02 on PC and 4.0 on Mac with the same result. Running the PS file through PCC Workflow yields this result:unmatched mark Offending command: cleartomark. Any help would be appreciated. Will Mitchell will@offsethouse.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 13:56:02-GMT,2403;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11274 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:56:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28405; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:55:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:47:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27734; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:47:32 -0600 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27730 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:47:31 -0600 Received: from lpiper.demon.co.uk ([158.152.165.240] helo=postle.net) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14Isvx-00079A-0V for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:47:29 +0000 Message-ID: <3A65A23F.13ECF320@postle.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:46:40 +0000 From: Denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb]C-NSCPCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Missing Distiller printer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I guess my recent query about the missing Distiller printer (on the tail of another message) might see a bit beginnerish but lack of it continues to block development here. Despite several uninstal/reinstals... plus following the Knowledge Base text No:325053 which reminded me of the need for a pre-installed postscript printer... still no Distiller Printer... I appear to have satisfied the necessary conditions. Can anyone tell me what I am missing? Greetings Denis Postle Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 14:10:01-GMT,3975;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11554 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:10:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30074; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:09:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:03:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29292; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:03:00 -0600 Received: from grafikhuset01.grafikhuset ([193.89.186.226]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29283 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:02:58 -0600 Received: by GRAFIKHUSET01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:36:00 +0100 Message-ID: <21E910ECB07BD211951D0080C87E974F15AADA@GRAFIKHUSET01> From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jacob_Sch=E4ffer?= To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: Antw: [PDF] Re: exitserver error Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:35:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Simply switch off the 'Generate Job Control Code' switch under PostScript options. - Jacob -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Salisbury [mailto:salisbury@sma.de] Sent: 17. januar 2001 12:51 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Antw: [PDF] Re: exitserver error The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Greetings, you most likely have the wrong Postcript driver, a wrong font or a defective EPS file within your Corel Draw file. 1. Try a different Postscript driver for generating the Postscript file. 2. If that does not work convert all texts to curves and see what happens. If it works - it is the fonts. 3. If that does not work print only a part of your corel draw image in order to find out which part the "Bug" is in and take it out. It can be a really tiny little piece of "dust" within the image. Gerald I would think it is a defective element in the corel >>> Will Mitchell 17.01.2001 00.29 Uhr >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Greetings, I was distilling a postcript file created in Corel 9 (pc) and received an exitserver:permanent state may be changed. Offending command: colspRefresh. I have been unsuccessful in finding this error code. Can anyone tell me what it is so I can kindly inform our customer as to why their file wont work. I tried distilling on both Mac/PC using 3.02 on PC and 4.0 on Mac with the same result. Running the PS file through PCC Workflow yields this result:unmatched mark Offending command: cleartomark. Any help would be appreciated. Will Mitchell will@offsethouse.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 17:15:21-GMT,2379;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16721 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:15:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08114; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:15:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:06:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07621; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:06:51 -0600 Received: from smtpscan.wcnoc.com ([138.230.29.141]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07617 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:06:49 -0600 Received: FROM wcexchgcont1.wcnoc.com BY smtpscan.wcnoc.com ; Wed Jan 17 11:07:57 2001 -0600 Received: by wcexchgcont1.wcnoc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:07:05 -0600 Message-ID: <97A15D2CADA6D411800E00508B66594C26B38D@wc-msexchg.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Pop-up dialog box Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:07:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have a document in which I want a dialog box to pop up with information, so I placed my JavaScript in the Page Open action for the first page of the document. However, when the dialog opens, the title bar reads "Acrobat Forms." Is there any way to customize the title in the dialog box? For that matter, any other (better) way to pop up the dialog? Gary E. Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC/Wolf Creek Generating Station "A company with energy!" Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 17:44:48-GMT,3728;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17675 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:44:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10090; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:44:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:37:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09680; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:37:35 -0600 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09676 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:37:33 -0600 Received: from [165.121.123.70] (user-2iniuq6.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.123.70]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA22515 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:37:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101171737.MAA22515@barry.mail.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: Duo-tones distill as 4/color Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:43:47 -0400 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA09677 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ on 1/17/01 9:47 AM, Pete Kogut wrote; >Problem: Freehand 8 duo-tone vignettes Distill as 4/color. > >Hardware/Software: Mac G4, OS 9, Acrobat 4.05, Freehand 8, Brisque RIP, >Dolev 800 Plotter. > >Situation: 2 color job, (PMS 2587 & Black). Images (duo-tones) distill >correctly. Duo-tone vignettes distill as 4/color. There is a 1/color >vignette (PMS 2587) that distills correctly. When vignette has both >colors in it is when problem occurs. The original Freehand 8 file is >broken out into PMS 2587 & Black only. > >I'm guessing there is a fix somewhere in the distillation process, but I >haven't stumbled across it yet. > >Solutions or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated! > >Pete Kogut >Prep Inc. >Buffalo, N.Y. Hi Pete, Michael Jahn here - used to work at LCC, now product manager of Agfa Apogee Create. from the Agfa Apogee Create read me file; Freehand ---------------------- € Freehand blends are always converted to CMYK. This is a known issue and described in the Freehand documentation. okay - why you might ask - well, the issue is that if you wanted to actually make a composite PDF or composite PostScript of this blend between two colorspaces (the black of CMYK, and the Separation color space, you would need to export DeviceN to have any object or pixels as a combination of these two colorspaces - and Freehand does not support this. So, work-arounds - print with separations on and re-combine these using Seps2Comp... build this in Adobe Illustrator - Spot to Spot Blends are supported using Illustrator 8.01. A free upgrade is available at http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/update.html - but it works fine with 9. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Jan-2001 18:03:35-GMT,3131;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18378 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:03:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11436; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:03:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:56:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11089; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:56:31 -0600 Received: from gatekeeper.nytimes.com (gatekeeper.nytimes.com [199.181.175.201]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11085 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:56:30 -0600 From: triggp@nytimes.com Received: from mail2.nytimes.com (mail2.nytimes.com [170.149.207.84]) by gatekeeper.nytimes.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13608 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from notesgate.nytimes.com (notesgate.nytimes.com [170.149.201.214]) by mail2.nytimes.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA16817 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:55:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by notesgate.nytimes.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id 852569D7.00627DA9 ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:55:46 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NYTIMES To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852569D7.00627D2E.00@notesgate.nytimes.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:57:49 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Quark and Yellow Image Boxes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Re: >I am creating PDFs from Quark (4.0, PC) and when I print it on >a Tektronic color laser, it prints out the individual image boxes w/ a >yellow >background. We've been investigating a similar problem here that involves pink (rather than yellow) boxes on some images produced from Quark EPS files that seems to be related to embedded ICC color profiles in images that were color, then converted to grayscale in Photoshop before being imported into the Quark picture box. The only fix we found immediately is to convert the image from a photoshop eps file to a tiff file and reimport it into the quark layout and print again. Might see if that solves your yellow image box problem. Perhaps someone has other ideas? ============================================ Peter J. 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Is there any way to customize the > title in the dialog box? For that matter, any other > (better) way to pop up the dialog? No, you have no control over the window title. I think this is considered a safety issue, so that you can't fool the user into thinking that it's a window for some other purpose. This is how Netscape works, and I think they just carried it over to Acrobat. I wouldn't see much harm in allowing you to specify a custom title. 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It has some checkbox (doing this from memory) where you can opt for PS level 1 or something. Would that have anything to do with PDF's showing up weird? But I don't think so since "white" text boxes also show up w/ "yellow" backgrounds when printed from the PDF. It seems like unless you make the box color "NONE" it will continue to print the box shapes. I did change to using TIFFs, but the laser printer shows raster jaggies worse than if I used EPS, so that is why I'd like a solution for the .eps issue. Any other ideas? Thanks! Robert __________________________________________________________________ We've been investigating a similar problem here that involves pink (rather than yellow) boxes on some images produced from Quark EPS files that seems to be related to embedded ICC color profiles in images that were color, then converted to grayscale in Photoshop before being imported into the Quark picture box. The only fix we found immediately is to convert the image from a photoshop eps file to a tiff file and reimport it into the quark layout and print again. Might see if that solves your yellow image box problem. Perhaps someone has other ideas? ============================================ Peter J. Trigg -- Manager, Production Systems News Services and Marketing Services, The New York Times 122 E. 42nd St., New York, NY 10168 -- 212.499.3332 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Jan-2001 11:55:36-GMT,4672;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA15438 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:06:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25003; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:06:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:56:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24468; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:56:56 -0600 Received: from mailserver.impressed.de (cdshop.photodisc.de [193.97.202.146]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24464 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:56:54 -0600 Received: from impressed.de ([10.4.28.112]) by mailserver.impressed.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 438 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:51:37 +0100 Message-ID: <3A66CBC8.1224AE6@impressed.de> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:56:09 +0100 From: "Robert Zacherl" Organization: IMPRESSED GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Duo-tones distill as 4/color References: <200101171347.HAA27753@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi Pete, the reason for this is that FreeHand as most other layout apps isn't capable of using the needed PostScript 3 DeviceN colorspace operator to output these kind of objects correctly. What is does is to select the colorspace which is able to reproduce the blends as good as possible and the only possible choice is CMYK. Background: to describe a blend with 2 spots you need an 2 channel color space for composite output. Neither PostScript Level 1 nor Level 2 have the appropriate means for this. A possible workaround is to build the blend out of two individual blends which lie on top of each other and let the top one overprint the bottom one. The works because the you need only a one channel colorspace for each blend and this is already possible with means of PostScript Level 2 using a Separation colorspace. Another workaround could be the usage of the PostScript 3 idiom recognition feature. If you have a suitable idiom set for FreeHand 8, a PostScript 3 RIP is able to substitute the "wrong" FreeHand code by correct PostScript 3 code which makes the blends even more smooth, because the SmoothShade operator would be used. The free Prinergy Distiller plug-in offers this idiom set. Unfortunately I could not succeed yet to get it working in combination with FreeHand 8 or 9 PostScript files. My FreeHand blends are always hundreds of small line segments which are colorized in CMYK. Doing the same in QuarkXpress works well with the Prinergy idiom set. Regards, Robert Pete Kogut wrote: > Hi, > > Problem: Freehand 8 duo-tone vignettes Distill as 4/color. > > Hardware/Software: Mac G4, OS 9, Acrobat 4.05, Freehand 8, Brisque RIP, > Dolev 800 Plotter. > > Situation: 2 color job, (PMS 2587 & Black). Images (duo-tones) distill > correctly. Duo-tone vignettes distill as 4/color. There is a 1/color > vignette (PMS 2587) that distills correctly. When vignette has both > colors in it is when problem occurs. The original Freehand 8 file is > broken out into PMS 2587 & Black only. > > I'm guessing there is a fix somewhere in the distillation process, but I > haven't stumbled across it yet. > > Solutions or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated! > > Pete Kogut > Prep Inc. > Buffalo, N.Y. > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ***************************** Robert Zacherl IMPRESSED GmbH Tel:++49(0)40/89 71 89-0 Fax:++49(0)40/89 71 89 71 e-Mail: rzacherl@impressed.de http://www.impressed.de ***************************** Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Jan-2001 11:55:38-GMT,6574;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA15906 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:29:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26299; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:29:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:24:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25956; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:24:10 -0600 Received: from grafikhuset01.grafikhuset ([193.89.186.226]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25952 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:24:07 -0600 Received: by GRAFIKHUSET01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:57:11 +0100 Message-ID: <21E910ECB07BD211951D0080C87E974F15AAE0@GRAFIKHUSET01> From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jacob_Sch=E4ffer?= To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Duo-tones distill as 4/color Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:57:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA25953 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ < The free Prinergy Distiller plug-in offers this idiom set. Unfortunately I could not succeed yet to get it working in combination with FreeHand 8 or 9 PostScript files. My FreeHand blends are always hundreds of small line segments which are colorized in CMYK. Doing the same in QuarkXpress works well with the Prinergy idiom set. > Preflight2000 Colour Chameleon offer similar functionality. Currently gradients from Xpress, CorelDraw and CorelVentura are supported, but not yet Freehand, which we currently are working on. In addition, CC can change colours in spot gradients from Illustrator 8.01 and 9.0 and/or convert CMYK gradients to spot and vice versa. Actually some idiom sets are included with Distiller, incl. for Xpress gradients. Distiller 4.0 didn't support spot coloured gradients from Xpress, though; Distiller 4.05 does, however. Since CC use it's own routines it's NOT dependent of the patch level of Distiller. Best regards Jacob Schäffer DTP/Technical support -------------------------------------------- Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Prs. Maries Allé 17 DK-1908 Frederiksberg C Denmark Tel: +45 33 25 19 58. Fax: +45 33 25 19 57 Web: http://www.grafikhuset.dk Grafikhuset is a full service prepress center offering * Imaging * Desktop publishing of any kind * Web design and automation * Advanced PDF workflow setup and tools * Prepress troubleshooting * Education and training * PostScript programming * Specialized software for the graphical industry. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Zacherl [mailto:rzacherl@impressed.de] Sent: 18. januar 2001 11:56 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Duo-tones distill as 4/color The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi Pete, the reason for this is that FreeHand as most other layout apps isn't capable of using the needed PostScript 3 DeviceN colorspace operator to output these kind of objects correctly. What is does is to select the colorspace which is able to reproduce the blends as good as possible and the only possible choice is CMYK. Background: to describe a blend with 2 spots you need an 2 channel color space for composite output. Neither PostScript Level 1 nor Level 2 have the appropriate means for this. A possible workaround is to build the blend out of two individual blends which lie on top of each other and let the top one overprint the bottom one. The works because the you need only a one channel colorspace for each blend and this is already possible with means of PostScript Level 2 using a Separation colorspace. Another workaround could be the usage of the PostScript 3 idiom recognition feature. If you have a suitable idiom set for FreeHand 8, a PostScript 3 RIP is able to substitute the "wrong" FreeHand code by correct PostScript 3 code which makes the blends even more smooth, because the SmoothShade operator would be used. The free Prinergy Distiller plug-in offers this idiom set. Unfortunately I could not succeed yet to get it working in combination with FreeHand 8 or 9 PostScript files. My FreeHand blends are always hundreds of small line segments which are colorized in CMYK. Doing the same in QuarkXpress works well with the Prinergy idiom set. Regards, Robert Pete Kogut wrote: > Hi, > > Problem: Freehand 8 duo-tone vignettes Distill as 4/color. > > Hardware/Software: Mac G4, OS 9, Acrobat 4.05, Freehand 8, Brisque RIP, > Dolev 800 Plotter. > > Situation: 2 color job, (PMS 2587 & Black). Images (duo-tones) distill > correctly. Duo-tone vignettes distill as 4/color. There is a 1/color > vignette (PMS 2587) that distills correctly. When vignette has both > colors in it is when problem occurs. The original Freehand 8 file is > broken out into PMS 2587 & Black only. > > I'm guessing there is a fix somewhere in the distillation process, but I > haven't stumbled across it yet. > > Solutions or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated! > > Pete Kogut > Prep Inc. > Buffalo, N.Y. > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ***************************** Robert Zacherl IMPRESSED GmbH Tel:++49(0)40/89 71 89-0 Fax:++49(0)40/89 71 89 71 e-Mail: rzacherl@impressed.de http://www.impressed.de ***************************** Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Jan-2001 16:48:52-GMT,3960;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23780 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:48:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11498; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:48:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:41:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10948; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:40:54 -0600 Received: from ahab.ccrprocess.net ([206.96.41.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10937 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:40:51 -0600 From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF]Annotations & JavaScript, was Pop-up dialog box X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:37:24 -0800 X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Trend MailScan on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/18/2001 08:36:42 AM, MIME-CD complete at 01/18/2001 08:36:42 AM, Serialize by Router on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/18/2001 08:36:54 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA10941 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In relation to the previous post, is it true that you can customize a PDF w/ JavaScript???? (Or is he referring to a web document?) Basically, what is he referring to? ALSO... I would like to know if there is a way to customize a PDF doc. for distribution to Reader users. I created a "sign-off" sheet for our internal depts. I sent it out via e-mail attachment, but is there any way that "reader" users can add like a "sign-off" annotation or something of the sort, to return it to me? Currently the only way it works is that they have to print the form and physically sign it and deliver it to my office. Is there some "e-form" way of doing this better in Acrobat for "Reader" users? Thanks! |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| | | Robert | | | robert_lira@balboainsurance.com | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| ----------------------------------------------------------------- > I have a document in which I want a dialog box to pop > up with information, so I placed my JavaScript in the > Page Open action for the first page of the document. > However, when the dialog opens, the title bar reads > "Acrobat Forms."  Is there any way to customize the > title in the dialog box?  For that matter, any other > (better) way to pop up the dialog? > > No, you have no control over the window title. I think > > this is considered a safety issue, so that you can't > > fool the user into thinking that it's a window for some > > other purpose. This is how Netscape works, and I think > > they just carried it over to Acrobat. I wouldn't see > > much harm in allowing you to specify a custom title. > > > George ----------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Jan-2001 18:09:58-GMT,2956;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26759 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:09:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17694; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:08:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:00:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17071; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:00:39 -0600 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17058 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:00:31 -0600 From: geojohn@att.net Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.57]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20010118180023.JJGU2072.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:00:23 +0000 Received: from [208.7.52.22] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:00:23 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF]Annotations & JavaScript, was Pop-up dialog box Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:00:23 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 14 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: geojohn@att.net Message-Id: <20010118180023.JJGU2072.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > In relation to the previous post, is it true that you > can customize a PDF w/ JavaScript???? (Or is he > referring to a web document?) Yes, Acrobat implements it's own flavor of JavaScript and is built on Netscape's 1.2 core. Acrobat's version mainly deals with forms currently and is documented in the Acrobat Forms JavaScript Object Specification that comes with Acrobat (Help > Forms JavaScript Guide). > I sent it out via e-mail attachment, but is there any > way that "reader" users can add like a "sign-off" > annotation or something of the sort, to return it to > me? > >[snip] > > Is there some "e-form" way of doing this better in > Acrobat for "Reader" users? Acrobat Reader can be used to submit form data to a web server. It is otherwise not capable of saving a modified PDF or (by itself) of saving form data. George Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Jan-2001 18:11:57-GMT,3135;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26811 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:11:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17950; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:10:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:03:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17264; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:03:06 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17250 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:03:02 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA18991 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:03:15 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Editing text with embedded fonts Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:02:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c08178$e43c7580$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I have client supplied pdfs that I need to edit. I have used both the > TextTouchup tool in Acrobat and PitStop. Using either of > these tools, I > still get a message saying that the text in this font can not > be edited. > Now I have confirmed via Doc Info -> Font Info that the fonts > in question > are actually embedded and not subsetted (that is if you believe the > information displayed in the dialog box is correct - I have > found cases > where it is not). How have you confirmed this since there is no column for "embedded (yes/no)" or "subset (yes/no)"? > So why can't I edit this text? I can change > the font that > the text is currently set in to another font that is > available and then I > can edit. I do not have the fonts used in the initial PDF on > my machine, > but because they are embedded I shouldn't need them to edit, right? To edit text with the Touch-Up tool you certainly need a copy of the fonts installed on your system. This seems to be as much a licensing issue as a technical one. I don't know about PitStop. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Jan-2001 18:19:20-GMT,2652;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27064 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:19:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18805; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:17:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:11:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18111; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:11:57 -0600 Received: from xchg.Lantech.com ([206.115.87.136]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18106 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:11:55 -0600 Received: by XCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:17:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3A38C95C7C8ED311A3FD0060B0576898101353@XCHG> From: Bill Fleming To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Peculiar printing problem! Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:17:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am really hoping that someone has some idea of where to look for this problem. We create manuals in Pagemaker 6.0 and 6.5. We then create PDF files by printing to a Postscript file then distilling to PDF. We have never had a problem printing individual files (each manual consists of 7 to 10 individual PDF files). However, if we merge these files in Acrobat 4.0 then try to print the entire document, on a fairly regular basis, we find that the printer (either an HP 8100 or an HP8500) stops at some point. In some files we consistently find that the print process stops at page 12, each and every time. The print job simply stops and the print que is empty. By the way an entire manual consists of about 80 -120 pages. Any pointers as to where to look or is more info required? Workstations are running Windows NT4.0, on Lan-Manager NT based server. Bill Fleming Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Jan-2001 18:52:04-GMT,4543;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28270 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:52:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21188; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:51:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:45:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20855; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:45:54 -0600 Received: from relay01.cablecom.net (relay01.cablecom.net [62.2.33.101]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20845 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:45:45 -0600 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by relay01.cablecom.net (8.11.1/8.11.0/SOL/MXRELAY-1.03) with ESMTP id f0IIjf674843; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:45:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.11.1/8.11.0/MSOL-2.17) with ESMTP id f0IIjeG27832; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:45:40 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: max%prodok.com@mail7.burlee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:43:00 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF]Annotations & JavaScript, was Pop-up dialog box Cc: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ As George said, Acrobat has its own JavaScript implementation. It might be really worthwile having a look at the Acrobat Forms JavaScript Specification (accessible under the Help menu in Acrobat). Again, as George said, Reader can not save anything (no, George, I am not repeating my infamous quote ). If your users always view the document when Reader is running under a web browser, you could create a "submit" button which sends certain data to a server side script (CGI et al.) which then does the rest. This has been well described. If your users view the document in Reader running autonomously, you still have a possibility to produce some kind of notification. You can use the getURL() JavaScript method to submit data to a server side script (if an internet connection can be built up immediately), or you use the mailto: protocol with that method to create an e-mail notification message. In both cases, this would launcht the web browser and initiate the URL. In the second case, this would start the mail client. Depending on the client, more or fewer parameters can be used; Netscape 4.7's mail client does support all the usual parameters, such as Subject and Body. In all these cases, you would have to assemble your message or parameter string with some simple JavaScripting. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:max@prodok.com http://www.prodok.com [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >In relation to the previous post, is it true that you can customize a PDF >w/ JavaScript???? (Or is he referring to a web document?) > >Basically, what is he referring to? > >ALSO... >I would like to know if there is a way to customize a PDF doc. for >distribution >to Reader users. I created a "sign-off" sheet for our internal depts. > >I sent it out via e-mail attachment, but is there any way that "reader" >users can >add like a "sign-off" annotation or something of the sort, to return it to >me? > >Currently the only way it works is that they have to print the form and >physically >sign it and deliver it to my office. > >Is there some "e-form" way of doing this better in Acrobat for "Reader" >users? Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Jan-2001 18:57:40-GMT,2624;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28466 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:57:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21553; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:57:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:52:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21194; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:52:01 -0600 Received: from tsmtp2.mail.isp (mailhost.teleline.es [195.235.113.141] (may be forged)) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21187 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:51:56 -0600 Received: from portos ([213.97.120.23]) by tsmtp2.mail.isp (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G7DGAG04.EZE for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:49:28 +0100 Message-ID: <001101c0817f$63d97800$0400a8c0@portos> From: "La Oficina Sin Papel" To: References: <3A38C95C7C8ED311A3FD0060B0576898101353@XCHG> Subject: RE: [PDF] Peculiar printing problem! Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:49:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > However, if we merge these files in Acrobat 4.0 then > try to print the entire document, on a fairly regular basis, we find that > the printer (either an HP 8100 or an HP8500) stops at some point. Maybe the problem comes from merging docs with different font subsets. Bill.. are you subsetting the fonts in to the PDFs? or are you embedding them completely? I'd try to do PDFs "without" the fonts subsetted (or embedded). Then merge them. Then print them. Then embed the fonts. Just a 'blind' guess (I haven't had that problem myself) Carlos. 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Why not, Max? It always makes me smile. George Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 10:21:41-GMT,3973;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA21818 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:21:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA30261; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:21:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:14:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA29867; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:14:24 -0600 Received: from public.electrolux.se (public.electrolux.se [193.183.68.17]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA29863 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:14:22 -0600 From: christian.larsson@electrolux.se Received: from gatekeeper (gatekeeper [193.183.68.29]) by public.electrolux.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA02247 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:14:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from sthhub02.ed.electrolux.se (sthhub02eth [10.10.10.2]) by ed9usc2.ed.electrolux.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16541 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:14:18 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: [PDF] Peculiar printing problem! To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:13:53 +0100 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on STHHUB02/Servers/Electrolux Group(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 2001-01-19 11:13:50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi Bill, Where the printer stops has that page any graphics or tabells (from Adobe Tabell)? We have had problems with tiff files, original jpg converted to tiff with Photoshop. Problems with tabells started when uppgraded our system to PM65+, PM6-files with older Tabell files were our problem. Regards Christian Larsson Electrolux Professional AB Bill Fleming @lists.pdfzone.com on 2001-01-18 19:17:04 Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sent by: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: Subject: [PDF] Peculiar printing problem! The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am really hoping that someone has some idea of where to look for this problem. We create manuals in Pagemaker 6.0 and 6.5. We then create PDF files by printing to a Postscript file then distilling to PDF. We have never had a problem printing individual files (each manual consists of 7 to 10 individual PDF files). However, if we merge these files in Acrobat 4.0 then try to print the entire document, on a fairly regular basis, we find that the printer (either an HP 8100 or an HP8500) stops at some point. In some files we consistently find that the print process stops at page 12, each and every time. The print job simply stops and the print que is empty. By the way an entire manual consists of about 80 -120 pages. Any pointers as to where to look or is more info required? Workstations are running Windows NT4.0, on Lan-Manager NT based server. Bill Fleming Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 12:26:51-GMT,4333;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24115 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:26:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02905; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:26:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:19:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02549; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:18:59 -0600 Received: from xchg.Lantech.com ([206.115.87.136]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02545 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:18:58 -0600 Received: by XCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:24:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3A38C95C7C8ED311A3FD0060B0576898101357@XCHG> From: Bill Fleming To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Peculiar printing problem! Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:24:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ There are graphics on almost every page of the document. Mostly digital photos and Acad drawings converted to WMF as illustrations. But no tables at all in the document. -----Original Message----- From: christian.larsson@electrolux.se [mailto:christian.larsson@electrolux.se] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:14 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Peculiar printing problem! The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi Bill, Where the printer stops has that page any graphics or tabells (from Adobe Tabell)? We have had problems with tiff files, original jpg converted to tiff with Photoshop. Problems with tabells started when uppgraded our system to PM65+, PM6-files with older Tabell files were our problem. Regards Christian Larsson Electrolux Professional AB Bill Fleming @lists.pdfzone.com on 2001-01-18 19:17:04 Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sent by: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: Subject: [PDF] Peculiar printing problem! The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am really hoping that someone has some idea of where to look for this problem. We create manuals in Pagemaker 6.0 and 6.5. We then create PDF files by printing to a Postscript file then distilling to PDF. We have never had a problem printing individual files (each manual consists of 7 to 10 individual PDF files). However, if we merge these files in Acrobat 4.0 then try to print the entire document, on a fairly regular basis, we find that the printer (either an HP 8100 or an HP8500) stops at some point. In some files we consistently find that the print process stops at page 12, each and every time. The print job simply stops and the print que is empty. By the way an entire manual consists of about 80 -120 pages. Any pointers as to where to look or is more info required? Workstations are running Windows NT4.0, on Lan-Manager NT based server. Bill Fleming Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 15:25:05-GMT,4011;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27450 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:25:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12809; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:22:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:15:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12051; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:15:10 -0600 Received: from oberon.pindar.co.uk (mail.pindar.com [195.92.54.18]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12041 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:15:07 -0600 Received: from mimesweeper.pindar.com by oberon.pindar.co.uk via smtpd (for everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 15:15:07 UT Received: from firewall.pindar.co.uk (unverified) by mimesweeper.pindar.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:15:45 +0000 Received: from mail-risborough.pindar.com by firewall.pindar.co.uk via smtpd (for mimesweeper.pindar.com [195.92.54.26]) with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 15:14:57 UT Received: from 10.0.3.61 by mail-risborough.pindar.com with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for MacOS 1.1.2); 19-Jan-2001 15:19:11 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:14:12 +0000 Subject: [PDF] RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop From: Nigel Barnes To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <21E910ECB07BD211951D0080C87E974F15AAE0@GRAFIKHUSET01> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello, 2 questions 1. I have a customer who insists on working with Ventura 4.2, which , when producing a composite PDF, it creates an RGB colour base. The distiller options are correct. I'm using A Mac OS 8.6, G3 My question is, can I convert the images globally from RGB to CMYK with Pitstop using 'Pitstop Global change' from the edit menu? I can convert the RGB black and Red to CMYK, that's easy. 2. Anyone experienced the odd image being dropped when distilling a ps file from Quark 4.11, Mac OS 8.6, Acrobat 4 Thanks in advance Nigel Barnes _____________________________________________ ********************************************************************** This email and its attachments are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error, you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this email and highlight the error. 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If you have received this email in error please notify: postmaster@pindar.com ********************************************************************** Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 16:03:27-GMT,4875;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28398 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:03:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15348; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:03:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:57:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15090; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:57:42 -0600 Received: from stmpy-4.cais.net (stmpy-4.cais.net [205.252.14.74]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15086 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:57:40 -0600 Received: from cais.com ([207.226.19.120]) by stmpy-4.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0JFvRY05159; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:57:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A68634E.83DAD42F@cais.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:54:54 -0500 From: Jim Beals X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Nigel: There are at least two ways to go about this. First, I don't believe Pitstop has the capability to convert graphics, only text colors globally. I just bought another plugin for this purpose called " Quite a Box of Tricks" and it seems to work nicely from what I've tried. It can be found at the Powerxchange website http://www.thepowerxchange.com. Go under Acrobat plugins-->Utility The second way is to ensure your client is using CMYK original graphics in their Ventura document. To my recollection, Ventura 4 was one of the earlier programs that allowed you to import RGB graphics and under the right circumstances, it separated them on output. (I think you had to print pre-separated plates. Its been a few years since I used that version. I use Ventura 8 now). They need to be sure they output (print to file) to a postscript printer driver that supports composite color. I use a Scitex PPD, but they could probably use a Linotronic or Agfa 1000 or 7000, for instance. Hope this helps Jim Beals jbeals@cais.com Nigel Barnes wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hello, > > 2 questions > > 1. I have a customer who insists on working with Ventura 4.2, which , when > producing a composite PDF, it creates an RGB colour base. The distiller > options are correct. > > I'm using A Mac OS 8.6, G3 > My question is, can I convert the images globally from RGB to CMYK with > Pitstop using 'Pitstop Global change' from the edit menu? > > I can convert the RGB black and Red to CMYK, that's easy. > > 2. Anyone experienced the odd image being dropped when distilling a ps file > from Quark 4.11, Mac OS 8.6, Acrobat 4 > > Thanks in advance > Nigel Barnes > _____________________________________________ > > ********************************************************************** > This email and its attachments are intended for the above > named only and may be confidential. If they have come to > you in error, you must take no action based on them, nor > must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this > email and highlight the error. > Security Warning: Please note that this email has been > created in the knowledge that the internet email is not a > 100% secure communications medium. We advise that you > understand and observe this lack of security when emailing us. > Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this > email and attachments are free from any virus, we advise > that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient > should ensure they are actually virus free. > If you have received this email in error please notify: > postmaster@pindar.com > ********************************************************************** > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 16:46:08-GMT,6392;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29558 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:46:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19343; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:45:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:39:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18907; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:39:00 -0600 Received: from grafikhuset01.grafikhuset ([193.89.186.226]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18903 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:38:59 -0600 Received: by GRAFIKHUSET01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:12:00 +0100 Message-ID: <21E910ECB07BD211951D0080C87E974F15AAEB@GRAFIKHUSET01> From: PreFlight2000 Tech Support To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:11:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA18904 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Ventura 4.2 can only pass CMYK or spot colour information from EPS files through to a composite PostScript or PDF file. Any other element is printed via the Windows GDI, which is a pure RGB device. Our Colour Chameleon software can convert the RGB colours in all vector elements to CMYK or SPOT colours as you need. It's a Pre-PDF (or post-PostScript) processor that only run on Windows (the latest version unfortunately ONLY on Windows NT and Windows 2000 - a Windows 95/98/ME compliant version will be available soon, though). Colour Chameleon doesn't convert RGB images to CMYK, since such images usually are better off with ICC based separation in a In-RIP prosessing stage anyway. Quite A Box Of Tricks can convert all colours to CMYK, but not to Spot. It also convert images to CMYK, however. QABOT is an Acrobat plug-in that is written for several platforms, Windows and Mac included. A combination of those packages sounds as a good investment for your customer, since this will allow him to produce 100% press ready PDF's - i.e. with all images converted to CMYK and all RGB vector colours as CMYK or spot - for your workflow. In addition, 'true' 2 or 3 colour work can be produced quite easily with this supplemental software. One might say, that even though Ventura 4.2 still is a very strong software package - and very fast and stable indeed - it doesn't offer modern facilities and support modern data formats, sometimes not even EPS from PhotoShop nor Illustrator. Still, for certain production types it can't easily be substituted because of its the open file format structure and automation capabilities (via external software). However, when such special needs be I'd suggest that your customer perform any needed conversion 'at home', and is willing to pay for the additional software and education needed. Best regards Jacob Schäffer DTP/Technical support -------------------------------------------- Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Prs. Maries Allé 17 DK-1908 Frederiksberg C Denmark Tel: +45 33 25 19 58. Fax: +45 33 25 19 57 Web: http://www.grafikhuset.dk Grafikhuset is a full service prepress center offering * Imaging * Desktop publishing of any kind * Web design and automation * Advanced PDF workflow setup and tools * Prepress troubleshooting * Education and training * PostScript programming * Specialized software for the graphical industry. -----Original Message----- From: Nigel Barnes [mailto:n.barnes@pindar.com] Sent: 19. januar 2001 16:14 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello, 2 questions 1. I have a customer who insists on working with Ventura 4.2, which , when producing a composite PDF, it creates an RGB colour base. The distiller options are correct. I'm using A Mac OS 8.6, G3 My question is, can I convert the images globally from RGB to CMYK with Pitstop using 'Pitstop Global change' from the edit menu? I can convert the RGB black and Red to CMYK, that's easy. 2. Anyone experienced the odd image being dropped when distilling a ps file from Quark 4.11, Mac OS 8.6, Acrobat 4 Thanks in advance Nigel Barnes _____________________________________________ ********************************************************************** This email and its attachments are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error, you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this email and highlight the error. 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If you have received this email in error please notify: postmaster@pindar.com ********************************************************************** Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 16:48:20-GMT,6886;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29645 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:48:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19554; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:47:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:42:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19147; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:42:14 -0600 Received: from ahab.ccrprocess.net ([206.96.41.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19143 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:42:12 -0600 From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF]Ventura, was RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:38:44 -0800 X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Trend MailScan on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/19/2001 08:38:01 AM, MIME-CD complete at 01/19/2001 08:38:01 AM, Serialize by Router on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/19/2001 08:38:13 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA19144 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I used to use Ventura 4.1 in my old company and output to PDF fine. Have the Ventura users convert the RGB TIFs to CMYK EPS files. VP4 didn't take CMYK TIF files. It (eps) looks ugly in Ventura, but when you distill a .ps file, it renders it fine. I have an appropriate printer driver if you need it. Thanks! |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| | | Robert Lira | | | | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| | | Jim Beals | | | | |         To: | | | Sent by: | pdf@lists.pdfzone.com| | | owner-pdf@lists.pdfzo|         cc: | | | ne.com |         Subject: | | | | Re: [PDF] RGB images | | | 01/19/2001 07:54 AM | to CMYK from Pitstop | | | Please respond to pdf| | | | | | |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Nigel: There are at least two ways to go about this. First, I don't believe Pitstop has the capability to convert graphics, only text colors globally. I just bought another plugin for this purpose called " Quite a Box of Tricks" and it seems to work nicely from what I've tried. It can be found at  the Powerxchange website http://www.thepowerxchange.com. Go under Acrobat plugins-->Utility The second way is to ensure your client is using CMYK original graphics in their Ventura document. To my recollection, Ventura 4 was one of the earlier programs that allowed you to import RGB graphics and under the right circumstances, it separated them on output. (I think you had to print pre-separated plates. Its been a few years since I used that version. I use Ventura 8 now). They need to be sure they output (print to file) to a postscript printer driver that supports composite color. I use a Scitex PPD, but they could probably use a Linotronic or Agfa 1000 or 7000, for instance. Hope this helps Jim Beals jbeals@cais.com Nigel Barnes wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hello, > > 2 questions > > 1.  I have a customer who insists on working with Ventura 4.2, which , when > producing a composite PDF, it creates an RGB colour base. The distiller > options are correct. > > I'm using A Mac OS 8.6, G3 > My question is, can I convert the images globally from RGB to CMYK with > Pitstop using 'Pitstop Global change' from the edit menu? > > I can convert the RGB black and Red to CMYK, that's easy. > > 2. Anyone experienced the odd image being dropped when distilling a ps file > from Quark 4.11, Mac OS 8.6, Acrobat 4 > > Thanks in advance > Nigel Barnes > _____________________________________________ > > ********************************************************************** > This email and its attachments are intended for the above > named only and may be confidential.  If they have come to > you in error, you must take no action based on them, nor > must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this > email and highlight the error. > Security Warning: Please note that this email has been > created in the knowledge that the internet email is not a > 100% secure communications medium.  We advise that you > understand and observe this lack of security when emailing us. > Viruses:  Although we have taken steps to ensure that this > email and attachments are free from any virus, we advise > that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient > should ensure they are actually virus free. > If you have received this email in error please notify: > postmaster@pindar.com > ********************************************************************** > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 17:01:29-GMT,6128;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29946 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:01:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21138; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:00:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:55:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20430; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:55:03 -0600 Received: from exchange.kayesmith.com (ftp.kayesmith.com [208.222.254.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20423 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:55:01 -0600 Received: by 175.infobaz.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:48:07 -0800 Message-ID: <096CA9B32660D311A4B30008C79F4CE0F402EF@175.infobaz.com> From: Matt Beals To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:48:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Nigel, Pitstop 4.5 allows the conversion of images from one color space to another. You have no control over UCR/GCR however. You can also tag/un-tag images with ICC profiles. As for making postscript, I suggest you use the Acrobat 4 PPD, not the Acrobat 3 PPD. The Acrobat 3 PPDs native color space is RGB unlike 4.0s CMYK. Hopefully they are using the Adobe PS driver to create the postscript and not using Windows or Corels built-in PS engine. I haven't seen anything in Pitstop that allows for a global change of images, only colored line art and type. As for Quark, how are you generating the postscript? What LaserWriter version and PPD are you using? Matt Beals Preflight Engineer Kaye-Smith (425) 227-3209 (800) 822-9987 x1281 matt.beals@kayesmith.com www.kayesmith.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Beals [mailto:jbeals@cais.com] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 7:55 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Nigel: There are at least two ways to go about this. First, I don't believe Pitstop has the capability to convert graphics, only text colors globally. I just bought another plugin for this purpose called " Quite a Box of Tricks" and it seems to work nicely from what I've tried. It can be found at the Powerxchange website http://www.thepowerxchange.com. Go under Acrobat plugins-->Utility The second way is to ensure your client is using CMYK original graphics in their Ventura document. To my recollection, Ventura 4 was one of the earlier programs that allowed you to import RGB graphics and under the right circumstances, it separated them on output. (I think you had to print pre-separated plates. Its been a few years since I used that version. I use Ventura 8 now). They need to be sure they output (print to file) to a postscript printer driver that supports composite color. I use a Scitex PPD, but they could probably use a Linotronic or Agfa 1000 or 7000, for instance. Hope this helps Jim Beals jbeals@cais.com Nigel Barnes wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hello, > > 2 questions > > 1. I have a customer who insists on working with Ventura 4.2, which , when > producing a composite PDF, it creates an RGB colour base. The distiller > options are correct. > > I'm using A Mac OS 8.6, G3 > My question is, can I convert the images globally from RGB to CMYK with > Pitstop using 'Pitstop Global change' from the edit menu? > > I can convert the RGB black and Red to CMYK, that's easy. > > 2. Anyone experienced the odd image being dropped when distilling a ps file > from Quark 4.11, Mac OS 8.6, Acrobat 4 > > Thanks in advance > Nigel Barnes > _____________________________________________ > > ********************************************************************** > This email and its attachments are intended for the above > named only and may be confidential. If they have come to > you in error, you must take no action based on them, nor > must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this > email and highlight the error. > Security Warning: Please note that this email has been > created in the knowledge that the internet email is not a > 100% secure communications medium. We advise that you > understand and observe this lack of security when emailing us. > Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this > email and attachments are free from any virus, we advise > that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient > should ensure they are actually virus free. > If you have received this email in error please notify: > postmaster@pindar.com > ********************************************************************** > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 17:02:13-GMT,3872;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29977 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:02:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21166; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:01:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:55:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20624; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:55:52 -0600 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20600 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:55:46 -0600 Received: (qmail 1430 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 16:48:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CAT8) ([213.224.16.227]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Jan 2001 16:48:43 -0000 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:47:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c08237$94d40930$e310e0d5@CAT8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3A68634E.83DAD42F@cais.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA20615 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Nigel (and Jim), > > My question is, can I convert the images globally from RGB to CMYK with > > PitStop using 'PitStop Global change' from the edit menu? > First, I don't believe PitStop has the capability to convert > graphics, only text colors globally. Yes, you can convert images with PitStop, if you have PitStop Professional (the older PitStop 4.0 product could only convert text/line-art). With PitStop Professional you can either convert images one by one (with the PitStop Inspector) or you can run an ActionList on your document that converts globally throughout the document. There is an example action list on our web site that does exactly this. Look at: http://www.enfocus.com/support/actionlistlib/Convert%20Color%20to%20CMYK.htm The conversion from RGB to CMYK can be done with or without Color Management (such as ColorSync on the Macintosh). If you want to use Color Management, go to the PitStop Preference Panel and on the "Color Management" tab, enable it. Our support people (support@enfocus.com) or I will gladly help you if you have further questions. Kind regards, David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com Director of Software Development ---------------------------------------------------- PDF, Questions and Answers: http://dvd.telenet.be -------------------------------------------- Windows NT crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams. -------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 17:22:16-GMT,8733;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00613 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:22:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23076; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:21:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:15:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22590; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:15:09 -0600 Received: from grafikhuset01.grafikhuset ([193.89.186.226]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22574 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:15:05 -0600 Received: by GRAFIKHUSET01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:48:11 +0100 Message-ID: <21E910ECB07BD211951D0080C87E974F15AAEC@GRAFIKHUSET01> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacob_Sch=E4ffer?= To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF]Ventura, was RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:48:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA22579 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ < ... Have the Ventura users convert the RGB TIFs to CMYK EPS files. VP4 didn't take CMYK TIF files. > Correct! The problem might be to import the CMYK EPS into Ventura, since the format of the EPS preview header may prevent it. This is a problem with most newer image editing software packages. VP4 only support preview headers that follow a specification from around 1989. In addition, the support is limited to preview headers less than a certain upper size, which is not very high compared to the standards of today. Any attempt to import an unsupported EPS file into Ventura will - sure as 'Amen' in the church - lead to crashes that may require system restarts, and perhaps data loss. Ventura 4.11 and 4.2 are VERY stable and productive software packages. Unfortunately, this is a fact only when your working under the terms set by Ventura. Best regards Jacob Schäffer DTP/Technical support -------------------------------------------- Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Prs. Maries Allé 17 DK-1908 Frederiksberg C Denmark Tel: +45 33 25 19 58. Fax: +45 33 25 19 57 Web: http://www.grafikhuset.dk Grafikhuset is a full service prepress center offering * Imaging * Desktop publishing of any kind * Web design and automation * Advanced PDF workflow setup and tools * Prepress troubleshooting * Education and training * PostScript programming * Specialized software for the graphical industry. -----Original Message----- From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com [mailto:Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com] Sent: 19. januar 2001 17:39 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF]Ventura, was RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I used to use Ventura 4.1 in my old company and output to PDF fine. Have the Ventura users convert the RGB TIFs to CMYK EPS files. VP4 didn't take CMYK TIF files. It (eps) looks ugly in Ventura, but when you distill a .ps file, it renders it fine. I have an appropriate printer driver if you need it. Thanks! |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| | | Robert Lira | | | | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| | | Jim Beals | | | | | To: | | | Sent by: | pdf@lists.pdfzone.com| | | owner-pdf@lists.pdfzo| cc: | | | ne.com | Subject: | | | | Re: [PDF] RGB images | | | 01/19/2001 07:54 AM | to CMYK from Pitstop | | | Please respond to pdf| | | | | | |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Nigel: There are at least two ways to go about this. First, I don't believe Pitstop has the capability to convert graphics, only text colors globally. I just bought another plugin for this purpose called " Quite a Box of Tricks" and it seems to work nicely from what I've tried. It can be found at the Powerxchange website http://www.thepowerxchange.com. Go under Acrobat plugins-->Utility The second way is to ensure your client is using CMYK original graphics in their Ventura document. To my recollection, Ventura 4 was one of the earlier programs that allowed you to import RGB graphics and under the right circumstances, it separated them on output. (I think you had to print pre-separated plates. Its been a few years since I used that version. I use Ventura 8 now). They need to be sure they output (print to file) to a postscript printer driver that supports composite color. I use a Scitex PPD, but they could probably use a Linotronic or Agfa 1000 or 7000, for instance. Hope this helps Jim Beals jbeals@cais.com Nigel Barnes wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hello, > > 2 questions > > 1. I have a customer who insists on working with Ventura 4.2, which , when > producing a composite PDF, it creates an RGB colour base. The distiller > options are correct. > > I'm using A Mac OS 8.6, G3 > My question is, can I convert the images globally from RGB to CMYK with > Pitstop using 'Pitstop Global change' from the edit menu? > > I can convert the RGB black and Red to CMYK, that's easy. > > 2. Anyone experienced the odd image being dropped when distilling a ps file > from Quark 4.11, Mac OS 8.6, Acrobat 4 > > Thanks in advance > Nigel Barnes > _____________________________________________ > > ********************************************************************** > This email and its attachments are intended for the above > named only and may be confidential. If they have come to > you in error, you must take no action based on them, nor > must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this > email and highlight the error. > Security Warning: Please note that this email has been > created in the knowledge that the internet email is not a > 100% secure communications medium. We advise that you > understand and observe this lack of security when emailing us. > Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this > email and attachments are free from any virus, we advise > that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient > should ensure they are actually virus free. > If you have received this email in error please notify: > postmaster@pindar.com > ********************************************************************** > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 17:50:07-GMT,11338;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01621 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:50:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25026; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:49:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:42:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24466; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:42:24 -0600 Received: from ahab.ccrprocess.net ([206.96.41.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24462 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:42:22 -0600 From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF]Ventura, was RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:38:54 -0800 X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Trend MailScan on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/19/2001 09:38:11 AM, MIME-CD complete at 01/19/2001 09:38:11 AM, Serialize by Router on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/19/2001 09:38:22 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA24463 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I second Jacobs comments. VP4.1 was very stable compared to the corel takeover versions, we had automated workflow from as400 database to VP4.1 to Acrobat, truly a work of art in terms of workflow. Acrobat "saved" VP and kept it alive for my old company. Just make sure you use 1200dpi as opposed to 2400dpi as the pages will render smaller than the page specified. Using Photoshop to save the .eps, check the "ASCII" and 8 bit headers. in Illustrator 9, save "as" version 5.5 eps and it should work. For long documentation, we tried Quark 4 and InDesign and still found ourselves going back to the VP4 to Acrobat workflow, flawless considering it was 10 yr old nonY2K compliant software! Just don't use RGB TIFs in Ventura 4 and save EPS in 5.5 format or earlier... What company is this person sending those files from anyways, out of curiousity??? Hope this helps... |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| | | Robert | | | | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| | | Jacob Schäffer | | | | | "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.c| | | Sent by: | om'" | | | owner-pdf@lists.pdfzo| | | | |         cc: | | | 01/19/2001 08:48 AM |         Subject: | | | Please respond to pdf| RE: [PDF]Ventura, was| | | | RGB images to CMYK | | | | from Pitstop | |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ < ... Have the Ventura users convert the RGB TIFs to CMYK EPS files. VP4 didn't take CMYK TIF files. > Correct! The problem might be to import the CMYK EPS into Ventura, since the format of the EPS preview header may prevent it. This is a problem with most newer image editing software packages. VP4 only support preview headers that follow a specification from around 1989. In addition, the support is limited to preview headers less than a certain upper size, which is not very high compared to the standards of today. Any attempt to import an unsupported EPS file into Ventura will - sure as 'Amen' in the church - lead to crashes that may require system restarts, and perhaps data loss. Ventura 4.11 and 4.2 are VERY stable and productive software packages. Unfortunately, this is a fact only when your working under the terms set by Ventura. Best regards Jacob Schäffer DTP/Technical support -------------------------------------------- Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Prs. Maries Allé 17 DK-1908 Frederiksberg C Denmark Tel: +45 33 25 19 58. Fax: +45 33 25 19 57 Web: http://www.grafikhuset.dk Grafikhuset is a full service prepress center offering *        Imaging *        Desktop publishing of any kind *        Web design and automation *        Advanced PDF workflow setup and tools *        Prepress troubleshooting *        Education and training *        PostScript programming *        Specialized software for the graphical industry. -----Original Message----- From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com [mailto:Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com] Sent: 19. januar 2001 17:39 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF]Ventura, was RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I used to use Ventura 4.1 in my old company and output to PDF fine. Have the Ventura users convert the RGB TIFs to CMYK EPS files. VP4 didn't take CMYK TIF files. It (eps) looks ugly in Ventura, but when you distill a .ps file, it renders it fine. I have an appropriate printer driver if you need it. Thanks! |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |                                    |   Robert Lira                      | |                                    |                                    | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| |                        |   Jim Beals            | | |                        |      |           To: | |                        |   Sent by:             | pdf@lists.pdfzone.com| |                        |   owner-pdf@lists.pdfzo|           cc: | |                        |   ne.com               |           Subject: | |                        |                        |   Re: [PDF] RGB images | |                        |   01/19/2001 07:54 AM  |   to CMYK from Pitstop | |                        |   Please respond to pdf| | |                        |                        | | |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Nigel: There are at least two ways to go about this. First, I don't believe Pitstop has the capability to convert graphics, only text colors globally. I just bought another plugin for this purpose called " Quite a Box of Tricks" and it seems to work nicely from what I've tried. It can be found at  the Powerxchange website http://www.thepowerxchange.com. Go under Acrobat plugins-->Utility The second way is to ensure your client is using CMYK original graphics in their Ventura document. To my recollection, Ventura 4 was one of the earlier programs that allowed you to import RGB graphics and under the right circumstances, it separated them on output. (I think you had to print pre-separated plates. Its been a few years since I used that version. I use Ventura 8 now). They need to be sure they output (print to file) to a postscript printer driver that supports composite color. I use a Scitex PPD, but they could probably use a Linotronic or Agfa 1000 or 7000, for instance. Hope this helps Jim Beals jbeals@cais.com Nigel Barnes wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hello, > > 2 questions > > 1.  I have a customer who insists on working with Ventura 4.2, which , when > producing a composite PDF, it creates an RGB colour base. The distiller > options are correct. > > I'm using A Mac OS 8.6, G3 > My question is, can I convert the images globally from RGB to CMYK with > Pitstop using 'Pitstop Global change' from the edit menu? > > I can convert the RGB black and Red to CMYK, that's easy. > > 2. Anyone experienced the odd image being dropped when distilling a ps file > from Quark 4.11, Mac OS 8.6, Acrobat 4 > > Thanks in advance > Nigel Barnes > _____________________________________________ > > ********************************************************************** > This email and its attachments are intended for the above > named only and may be confidential.  If they have come to > you in error, you must take no action based on them, nor > must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this > email and highlight the error. > Security Warning: Please note that this email has been > created in the knowledge that the internet email is not a > 100% secure communications medium.  We advise that you > understand and observe this lack of security when emailing us. > Viruses:  Although we have taken steps to ensure that this > email and attachments are free from any virus, we advise > that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient > should ensure they are actually virus free. > If you have received this email in error please notify: > postmaster@pindar.com > ********************************************************************** > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 19:29:31-GMT,2489;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05375 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:29:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32270; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:27:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:20:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31870; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:20:35 -0600 Received: from mx1.un.org (mx1.un.org [157.150.197.100]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31850 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:20:29 -0600 Received: from un-mailhub-02.intlhub.un.org (un-mailhub-02.un.org [157.150.197.20]) by mx1.un.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0JJNmZ21686 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:23:48 -0500 (EST) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Paul Kazarov" Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:20:19 -0500 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on un-mailhub-02/UNO(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 19/01/2001 02:20:20 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Introduction: Paul Kazarov, Manager at In-Plant, United Nations, NY Problem: Documents are created using Word 2000, standard fonts. PDF is being made using Acrobat 4, with Fonts being sent as Outlines. The problem is that users of the PDF cannot copy and paste text, as it pastes as gibberish. Creating the PDF using Type 42 is not an option, as our rip will not "take" the file. We are seeking a solution where the user is able to copy text from the PDF, in addition to the other PDF functionality - viewing, printing, etc. Any suggestions in solving this problem would be welcome. Paul Kazarov Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 20:44:05-GMT,3726;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07637 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:44:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04288; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:42:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:35:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03866; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:35:27 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03837 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:35:19 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA28760 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12482; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G7FFUD00.O4P; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:35:01 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010119123115.028195a8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:35:02 -0800 To: "Paul Kazarov" From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: [PDF] Re: Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ "Creating the PDF using Type 42" IS the solution. Even if you have an old, obsolete RIP that cannot "take" native TrueType (i.e. Type 42), Acrobat and the PostScript driver will automatically generate a "converted to unhinted Type 1" font in lieu of the Type 42 font when outputting to such devices, assuming that you have properly configured the driver and/or are using the correct device PPD. Embedding the real font (i.e., the TrueType font) in your PDF file would likely fix the copy/paste gibberish problem. (If not, please advise as to what driver you are using on what version of Windows!) - Dov At 1/19/2001 11:20 AM, Paul Kazarov wrote: >Introduction: > >Paul Kazarov, Manager at In-Plant, United Nations, NY > >Problem: Documents are created using Word 2000, standard fonts. PDF is >being made using Acrobat 4, with Fonts being sent as Outlines. The problem >is that users of the PDF cannot copy and paste text, as it pastes as >gibberish. Creating the PDF using Type 42 is not an option, as our rip will >not "take" the file. We are seeking a solution where the user is able to >copy text from the PDF, in addition to the other PDF functionality - >viewing, printing, etc. > >Any suggestions in solving this problem would be welcome. > >Paul Kazarov Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Jan-2001 22:16:29-GMT,2555;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10886 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:16:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10448; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:16:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:02:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09375; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:02:46 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09371 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:02:44 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA21718 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:02:42 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: [PDF] RE: unable to copy text (was: no subject) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:02:51 -0000 Message-ID: <001c01c08263$9211ff00$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Problem: Documents are created using Word 2000, standard fonts. PDF is > being made using Acrobat 4, with Fonts being sent as > Outlines. The problem > is that users of the PDF cannot copy and paste text, as it pastes as > gibberish. Creating the PDF using Type 42 is not an option, > as our rip will > not "take" the file. What is the connection between what you can make into a PDF and what you can RIP? You should in any case use a different PPD for the two jobs. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Jan-2001 1:30:23-GMT,2085;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16361 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:30:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19098; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:30:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:21:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18804; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:21:57 -0600 Received: from mail2.lig.bellsouth.net (mail2.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.56]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18800 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:21:56 -0600 From: scla@earthlink.net Received: from 192.168.1.100 (adsl-78-181-31.lft.bellsouth.net [216.78.181.31]) by mail2.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id UAA13038 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:21:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101200121.UAA13038@mail2.lig.bellsouth.net> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Converting PDF to PageMaker or Word Date: 19 Jan 2001 19:21:48 -0800 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.2.0.1603 X-ID: 551E18F9145F4049B6480FADCFABF392 X-Brand: NeoPlanet X-Build: 1603 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Helle fellow PDF users. Does anybody know of a means of converting a multi page PDF document into a PageMaker document or a Word document. Need Help. Scottie Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Jan-2001 2:52:14-GMT,2006;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17947 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:52:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22485; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:51:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:44:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA22083; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:44:58 -0600 Received: from mail6.lig.bellsouth.net (mail6.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.91]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22079 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:44:57 -0600 From: scla@earthlink.net Received: from 192.168.1.100 (adsl-78-181-31.lft.bellsouth.net [216.78.181.31]) by mail6.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id VAA10973 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:44:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101200244.VAA10973@mail6.lig.bellsouth.net> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF into PageMaker Date: 19 Jan 2001 20:44:42 -0800 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.2.0.1603 X-ID: 551E18F9145F4049B6480FADCFABF392 X-Brand: NeoPlanet X-Build: 1603 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Can a multipage PDF document be converted into a PageMaker document or a Word document? Scottie Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Jan-2001 8:23:07-GMT,2337;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24256 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 01:23:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA02504; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:21:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:14:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA02149; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:14:44 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA02145 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:14:40 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA22473 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:14:38 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF into PageMaker Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:14:31 -0000 Message-ID: <000401c082b9$0411a600$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200101200244.VAA10973@mail6.lig.bellsouth.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Can a multipage PDF document be converted into a PageMaker > document or a Word document? You can place each page of the PDF into PageMaker (one at a time). Not sure why you'd want to though - they will be uneditable graphics. You could lay new graphics over the top if you want. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Jan-2001 13:57:29-GMT,2616;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29611 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 06:57:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15619; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:57:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:50:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15249; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:49:58 -0600 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15245 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:49:57 -0600 Received: from mathiesen (h00a0c5e11d4a.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.19.196]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0KDnoK01772 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:49:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Mansoor" To: Subject: [PDF] watermarking a PDF image+text or image only document Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:52:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have been unable to find a plug-in or utility that will truly watermark a scanned image (either in tif or after conversion to pdf). Because of authenticity issues, I cannot convert my scanned images to PDF Normal. Apparently because PDF uses an opaque image format (in my case, black text on a white, not transparent, background), the watermarking utilities I've found cannot *underlay* a watermark, but can only overlay one, which has the effect of obscuring the text I'm trying to preserve. Any thoughts? Thanks, Mark Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Jan-2001 15:38:54-GMT,3235;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01432 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:38:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19725; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:38:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:33:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19453; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:33:05 -0600 Received: from zedd.revealed.net (zedd.revealed.net [205.243.76.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19449 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:33:04 -0600 Received: from b2a5f8 (sid5.revealed.net [208.23.178.148]) by zedd.revealed.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA09670 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:31:38 -0600 Message-ID: <015301c082f6$67f2b960$8a05fea9@b2a5f8> From: "Cy Galley" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] watermarking a PDF image+text or image only document Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:31:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ You can do what you want in PhotoShop. It is called digimark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Mansoor" To: Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 7:52 AM Subject: [PDF] watermarking a PDF image+text or image only document > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > I have been unable to find a plug-in or utility that will truly watermark a > scanned image (either in tif or after conversion to pdf). Because of > authenticity issues, I cannot convert my scanned images to PDF Normal. > Apparently because PDF uses an opaque image format (in my case, black text > on a white, not transparent, background), the watermarking utilities I've > found cannot *underlay* a watermark, but can only overlay one, which has the > effect of obscuring the text I'm trying to preserve. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks, Mark > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Jan-2001 19:26:48-GMT,3058;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05823 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:26:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28411; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:26:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:18:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28043; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:18:41 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28039 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:18:39 -0600 Received: from [63.100.177.98] ([63.100.177.70]) by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 158939 via TCP with SMTP; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:20:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@38.164.135.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:16:49 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] watermarking a PDF image+text or image only document Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >I have been unable to find a plug-in or utility that will truly watermark a >scanned image (either in tif or after conversion to pdf). Because of >authenticity issues, I cannot convert my scanned images to PDF Normal. >Apparently because PDF uses an opaque image format (in my case, black text >on a white, not transparent, background), the watermarking utilities I've >found cannot *underlay* a watermark, but can only overlay one, which has the >effect of obscuring the text I'm trying to preserve. > >Any thoughts? > >Thanks, Mark Mark, Our StampPDF plug-in and our StampPDF Batch application will both allow you to overlay a watermark using letter outlines. This allows the text or image on the page to show through the watermark. We specifically added the outline text mode to allow users to stamp over scanned images. More information on StampPDF can be found on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. Regards, -- Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 60 South Lansdowne Avenue Lansdowne, PA 19050 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Jan-2001 1:28:11-GMT,3105;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12830 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 18:28:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08984; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:27:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:19:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08487; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:19:43 -0600 Received: from priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net (fepout4.telus.net [199.185.220.239]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08483 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:19:38 -0600 Received: from jon.telusplanet.net ([161.184.196.40]) by priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010121011918.EGAP15963.priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net@jon.telusplanet.net> for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 18:19:18 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010120180434.00af4c30@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: brehautj/pop.telusplanet.net@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 18:14:03 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Jon D. Brehaut" Subject: [PDF] Page Rotation on Conversion to Acrobat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Folks, I have a puzzling problem. I am converting files from PageMaker to pdf by printing to the Generic Postscript driver that came with Acrobat 4, then distilling with Acrobat Distiller 4. When I open the resulting file in Acrobat, I find that some pages have been rotated 90 or 180 degrees. Naturally, this is happening in a publication that is shaping up to be 300+ pages, so it will be difficult to go through and manually correct each one. In fact, when I try to that, I wind up rotating adjacent pages as well. So to do this manually looks like I would have to save each page to a different file, rotate it in its own file, then rebuild the main file. I'd rather not have to do that. Does anyone know what is happening here, and what I could do to prevent it? Thanks. _________________________________ Jon D. Brehaut, Partner Hummingbird Consultants "Bringing people and information together" Sherwood Park, AB Tel: (780) 464-2530 Fax: (780) 449-6626 E-mail: Jon.Brehaut@telusplanet.net Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Jan-2001 23:09:46-GMT,3998;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05675 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:09:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23614; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:09:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:01:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23150; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:01:30 -0600 Received: from axion.net (popper-4.vancouver.ipapp.com [216.152.192.206]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA23146 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:01:29 -0600 Received: from axion.net ([207.102.191.52]) by popper-4.vancouver.ipapp.com ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:01:25 -0800 Message-ID: <3A6B69FB.1CC36CD6@axion.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:00:11 -0800 From: Angus Weller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Why are Illustrator 8/9 and Acrobat4 such bad fits? References: <200101200121.UAA13038@mail2.lig.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DE189C6E54A49FC1FE4967E1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DE189C6E54A49FC1FE4967E1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I've written my concerns about Illustrator 8/9 and Acrobat 4 in the past and have received no answers. I've also posted my concerns on the Adobe site. Adding to the sting of flaws in the Illustrator/Acrobat union, I would like to add its habit of now adding two extra lines of blank type to each name I add to my maps My earlier complaints are that the new programs create larger files than earlier versions and can, when opening, pdf files in Illustrator move the type many inches from where it belongs and change its type face and size. At an Adobe meeting in Vancouver last fall I was advised to upgrade from Illustrator 8 (I had just moved up) to 9. The fact that 9 is supposed to be pdf based made no difference except to my pocket book. Adobe has released buggy software in the past and told me that they weren't going to fix the software surely this isn't still going on. As I said in the past, I wish there was a Ralph Nader to go after the software industry. In the mean time does anyone know a work around that doesn't involve going back to my old software and old machine to get the job done right. (I use a Mac presently a G4 and my old machine in a Centris 650.) Angus --------------DE189C6E54A49FC1FE4967E1 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="weller.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Angus Weller Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="weller.vcf" begin:vcard n:Weller;Angus tel;work:(250)729-7292 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.mapmatrix.com org:Weller Cartographic Services Ltd. adr:;;2960 Cosgrove Crescent;Nanaimo;British Columbia;V9S 3P8;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:weller@axion.net title:President note:webstores at: travel-media.com and mapmatrix.com x-mozilla-cpt:;1 fn:Angus Weller end:vcard --------------DE189C6E54A49FC1FE4967E1-- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 6:10:13-GMT,5430;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA13749 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:10:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06632; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:07:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:59:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06222; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:59:04 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06218 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:59:03 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA27579 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:02:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09489; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:58:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ISAACS-REMOTE.adobe.com ([153.32.18.20]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G7JVA100.02A; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:58:49 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS-REMOTE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010121212910.01d17918@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:53:06 -0800 To: Angus Weller From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Why are Illustrator 8/9 and Acrobat4 such bad fits? Cc: In-Reply-To: <3A6B69FB.1CC36CD6@axion.net> References: <200101200121.UAA13038@mail2.lig.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Angus, I am sorry to hear of the problems that you have experienced with Illustrator 9 with regards to its integration with PDF. Some misconceptions that I would like to clear up first ... (1) Illustrator is not fully "PDF-based". It can store its editable content as private data structures within a file format that is PDF, but it IS NOT PDF. (2) Contrary to popular belief, Illustrator (including 9) is NOT a general purpose PDF editor. There are numerous PDF constructs that do not directly translate into Illustrator objects. Illustrator 9 can only fully OPEN and interpret PDF files generated by Illustrator 9 and not otherwise "processed" and/or modified elsewhere. Any other PDF files are effectively IMPORTED with objects that do not match Illustrator object types either being translated into similar Illustrator object types or in some cases, dropped. Thus, you should never use Illustrator as a touch-up tool for PDF files, especially for those destined for press. Having said that, "extra blank lines of type", misplaced text, or improper text type face and/or size of "opened" PDF files of any type are clearly not expected Illustrator behavior. There were some problems of this type (pun not intended) that were supposed to have been cleared up by the Illustrator 9.01 update. If you have applied this update and you are still seeing these problems, please contact me privately, off-list with some samples (and some description as to details of the production of the files) so that I can pursue the issue with the Illustrator development group here at Adobe. - Dov At 1/21/2001 03:00 PM, Angus Weller wrote: >Hi > > I've written my concerns about Illustrator 8/9 and Acrobat 4 in the past and have received no answers. I've also posted my concerns on the Adobe >site. > > Adding to the sting of flaws in the Illustrator/Acrobat union, I would like to add its habit of now adding two extra lines of blank type to each >name I add to my maps > > My earlier complaints are that the new programs create larger files than earlier versions and can, when opening, pdf files in Illustrator move the >type many inches from where it belongs and change its type face and size. > > At an Adobe meeting in Vancouver last fall I was advised to upgrade from Illustrator 8 (I had just moved up) to 9. The fact that 9 is supposed to be >pdf based made no difference except to my pocket book. > > Adobe has released buggy software in the past and told me that they weren't going to fix the software surely this isn't still going on. As I said in >the past, I wish there was a Ralph Nader to go after the software industry. > > In the mean time does anyone know a work around that doesn't involve going back to my old software and old machine to get the job done right. > > (I use a Mac presently a G4 and my old machine in a Centris 650.) > >Angus Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 14:00:36-GMT,2867;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22286 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:00:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24762; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:00:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:53:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24378; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:53:21 -0600 Received: from fxodpr10.is.chrysler.com (firewall-user@fxodpr10.extra.daimlerchrysler.com [204.189.94.74]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24374 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:53:19 -0600 From: lp5@daimlerchrysler.com Received: (from uucp@localhost) by fxodpr10.is.chrysler.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id IAA08859 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from nodnsquery(129.9.145.48) by fwodpr10.is.chrysler.com via smap (V5.5) id xma008741; Mon, 22 Jan 01 08:50:15 -0500 Received: from sclmdg01.wk.dcx.com (lnaclm04-nf0.notes.chrysler.com [129.9.208.38]) by shmrspr1-pf0.shdc.chrysler.com (8.10.1/8.9.0/daimlerchrysler-relay-1.0-kcd) with ESMTP id f0MDqxA00173 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:52:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [PDF] Why is collate option unavailable w/PS print driver? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:52:22 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on sclmdg01.wk.dcx.com/Server/Prod/DCX(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 01/22/2001 08:52:58 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We are using Windows 2000 & Acrobat Reader 4.05c. When printing from Reader to our HP5si MX printer using a PostScript driver we are unable to collate multiple copies - the option is 'grayed out'. When printing from other applications (eg Word), the collate option is available. Why is the option not available when printing from Acrobat? (The collate option is available to Acrobat when using the PCL driver.) Is it because the HP printer emulates PostScript? 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Cc: lp5@daimlerchrysler.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This looks as if so. HP does not use Adobe PostScript for their RIP, and this may cause problems. You might try to get the very newest driver from HP and see if that one works properly. Otherwise, you may have to stick with PCL. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:max@prodok.com http://www.prodok.com [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >We are using Windows 2000 & Acrobat Reader 4.05c. When printing from >Reader to our HP5si MX printer using a PostScript driver we are unable to >collate multiple copies - the option is 'grayed out'. When printing from >other applications (eg Word), the collate option is available. Why is the >option not available when printing from Acrobat? (The collate option is >available to Acrobat when using the PCL driver.) Is it because the HP >printer emulates PostScript? 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David @ Enfocus an upgrade to Pitstop is the answer, thanks again. A fantastic product! Robert, the company is UK based and sells boating equipment, sold thorough outlets and mail order. Thanks again Nigel Barnes > From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:38:54 -0800 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF]Ventura, was RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > I second Jacobs comments. > > VP4.1 was very stable compared to the corel takeover versions, we had > automated workflow from as400 database to VP4.1 to Acrobat, truly a work > of art in terms of workflow. Acrobat "saved" VP and kept it alive for my > old company. Just make sure you use 1200dpi as opposed to 2400dpi as > the pages will render smaller than the page specified. > > > Using Photoshop to save the .eps, check the "ASCII" and 8 bit headers. > in Illustrator 9, save "as" version 5.5 eps and it should work. > > For long documentation, we tried Quark 4 and InDesign and still found > ourselves > going back to the VP4 to Acrobat workflow, flawless considering it was 10 > yr old > nonY2K compliant software! > > Just don't use RGB TIFs in Ventura 4 and save EPS in 5.5 format or > earlier... > > What company is this person sending those files from anyways, out of > curiousity??? > > Hope this helps... > |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| > | | Robert | > | | | > |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| > |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| > | | Jacob Schäffer | | > | | | | > | "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.c| > | | Sent by: | om'" | > | | owner-pdf@lists.pdfzo| | | ne.com | m> | > | | |         cc: | > | | 01/19/2001 08:48 AM |         Subject: | > | | Please respond to pdf| RE: [PDF]Ventura, was| > | | | RGB images to CMYK | > | | | from Pitstop | > |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| > > > > > > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > < ... Have the Ventura users convert the RGB TIFs to CMYK EPS files. VP4 > didn't take CMYK TIF files. > > > Correct! > > The problem might be to import the CMYK EPS into Ventura, since the format > of the EPS preview header may prevent it. This is a problem with most newer > image editing software packages. > > VP4 only support preview headers that follow a specification from around > 1989. In addition, the support is limited to preview headers less than a > certain upper size, which is not very high compared to the standards of > today. > > Any attempt to import an unsupported EPS file into Ventura will - sure as > 'Amen' in the church - lead to crashes that may require system restarts, > and > perhaps data loss. > > Ventura 4.11 and 4.2 are VERY stable and productive software packages. > Unfortunately, this is a fact only when your working under the terms set by > Ventura. > > Best regards > Jacob Schäffer > DTP/Technical support > > -------------------------------------------- > > Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) > Prs. Maries Allé 17 > DK-1908 Frederiksberg C > Denmark > Tel: +45 33 25 19 58. > Fax: +45 33 25 19 57 > Web: http://www.grafikhuset.dk > > Grafikhuset is a full service prepress center offering > *        Imaging > *        Desktop publishing of any kind > *        Web design and automation > *        Advanced PDF workflow setup and tools > *        Prepress troubleshooting > *        Education and training > *        PostScript programming > *        Specialized software for the graphical industry. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com > [mailto:Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com] > Sent: 19. januar 2001 17:39 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF]Ventura, was RGB images to CMYK from Pitstop > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > I used to use Ventura 4.1 in my old company and output to PDF fine. Have > the Ventura > users convert the RGB TIFs to CMYK EPS files. VP4 didn't take CMYK TIF > files. > > It (eps) looks ugly in Ventura, but when you distill a .ps file, it renders > it fine. > > I have an appropriate printer driver if you need it. > > Thanks! > > |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| > |                                    |   Robert Lira                      | > |                                    |                                    | > |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| > |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| > |                        |   Jim Beals            | > | > |                        |      |           To: > | > |                        |   Sent by:             | > pdf@lists.pdfzone.com| > |                        |   owner-pdf@lists.pdfzo|           cc: > | > |                        |   ne.com               |           Subject: > | > |                        |                        |   Re: [PDF] RGB images > | > |                        |   01/19/2001 07:54 AM  |   to CMYK from Pitstop > | > |                        |   Please respond to pdf| > | > |                        |                        | > | > |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| > > > > > > > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Nigel: > > There are at least two ways to go about this. > > First, I don't believe Pitstop has the capability to convert graphics, only > text > colors globally. I just bought another plugin for this purpose called " > Quite a > Box of Tricks" and it seems to work nicely from what I've tried. It can be > found > at  the Powerxchange website http://www.thepowerxchange.com. Go under > Acrobat > plugins-->Utility > > The second way is to ensure your client is using CMYK original graphics in > their > Ventura document. To my recollection, Ventura 4 was one of the earlier > programs > that allowed you to import RGB graphics and under the right circumstances, > it > separated them on output. (I think you had to print pre-separated plates. > Its > been a few years since I used that version. I use Ventura 8 now). They need > to > be sure they output (print to file) to a postscript printer driver that > supports > composite color. I use a Scitex PPD, but they could probably use a > Linotronic or > Agfa 1000 or 7000, for instance. > > Hope this helps > Jim Beals > jbeals@cais.com > > Nigel Barnes wrote: > >> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> Hello, >> >> 2 questions >> >> 1.  I have a customer who insists on working with Ventura 4.2, which , > when >> producing a composite PDF, it creates an RGB colour base. The distiller >> options are correct. >> >> I'm using A Mac OS 8.6, G3 >> My question is, can I convert the images globally from RGB to CMYK with >> Pitstop using 'Pitstop Global change' from the edit menu? >> >> I can convert the RGB black and Red to CMYK, that's easy. >> >> 2. 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The other purpose is to send to a CTP device for platemaking/printing. Paul "Aandi Inston" @lists.pdfzone.com on 19/01/2001 05:02:51 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sent by: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: cc: Subject: [PDF] RE: unable to copy text (was: no subject) The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Problem: Documents are created using Word 2000, standard fonts. PDF is > being made using Acrobat 4, with Fonts being sent as > Outlines. The problem > is that users of the PDF cannot copy and paste text, as it pastes as > gibberish. Creating the PDF using Type 42 is not an option, > as our rip will > not "take" the file. What is the connection between what you can make into a PDF and what you can RIP? You should in any case use a different PPD for the two jobs. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 15:49:51-GMT,3174;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24859 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:49:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31780; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:49:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:43:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31239; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:43:19 -0600 Received: from uni03mr.unity.ncsu.edu (uni03mr.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.166]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31233 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:43:17 -0600 Received: from [152.1.114.83] (chclause.sod.ncsu.edu [152.1.114.83]) by uni03mr.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/UR01Feb99) with ESMTP id KAA00233 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:43:06 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:43:16 -0500 Subject: [PDF] odd character + word kerning in Acrobat 4.x paper capture From: Caleb Clauset To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I've got several short articles (7-12 pages each) that I've scanned into Acrobat (via import Image) that I wanted to convert from PDF (Image) to PDF (Hidden Text). Everything appears to convert properly, but when I select a block of text the highlighted selection bears no resemblance to the original image. When examining the text attributes of the text block, the font for the converted text is BookAntiqua, but the characters have a 7999/1000 em character kerning, and a -8211/1000 em word space kerning! One other oddity is that this strange kerning ONLY affects the text that is smaller than 10pt (in this case, the text is 9.72pt). I can correct this manually, but only ONE word at a time (is there a way to batch change this?). I've tried de-installing and re-installing Acrobat 4.05a, but the problem still exists. I've also followed all the recommendations re: font embedding (don't do it) and font management (don't manage font's installed by Acrobat). Is there something else that I can try, or is this some problem with the paper capture (v1.0) function in Acrobat 4.x (Macintosh)? ciao, Caleb -- Caleb Clauset tel: 919 858.5816 NCSU College of Design efax: 815 346.0881 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 16:01:35-GMT,2422;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25197 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:01:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00023; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:01:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:55:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32222; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:55:19 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32209 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:55:16 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA27172 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:55:16 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: unable to copy text (was: no subject) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:55:16 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c0848b$b74ef6e0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > One purpose for the PDF is for users/recipients to print and > to copy/paste. > The other purpose is to send to a CTP device for platemaking/printing. You mean you are attempting to make a single PostScript file for typesetter output, and also for distilling? This is an idea which seems appealing, but I can only advise against it. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 16:10:56-GMT,2669;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25469 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:10:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00974; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:10:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:05:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00464; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:05:05 -0600 Received: from monona.rhome.net (71.monona.msn.vtom.com [216.145.166.71]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00446 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:05:00 -0600 Received: from w042.omnipress.com ([216.145.167.34]) by monona.rhome.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:04:55 -0600 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20010122100001.00b4e840@mail.omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@mail.omnipress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:02:59 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: uschan@omnipress.com (Chris Uschan) Subject: [PDF] automatic to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am looking at ActivePDF for an internet based document conversion to PDF. 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Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 16:54:24-GMT,2495;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26638 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:54:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03506; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:53:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:47:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03071; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:47:35 -0600 Received: from ahab.ccrprocess.net ([206.96.41.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03067 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:47:34 -0600 From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Web Capture problems through Firewall X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:44:04 -0800 X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Trend MailScan on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/22/2001 08:43:18 AM, MIME-CD complete at 01/22/2001 08:43:18 AM, Serialize by Router on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/22/2001 08:43:30 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA03068 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know how I can configure Acrobat's web capture to work? I don't understand why its not able to use the settings from IE nor Netscape as well. Any help is much appreciated! |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| | | Robert | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 16:54:25-GMT,2775;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26643 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:54:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03507; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:53:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:47:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03045; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:47:16 -0600 Received: from rot1.ohcapcon.com ([206.228.169.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03041 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:47:15 -0600 Received: from fr3.hannah.com (s1.listport.com [206.228.169.18]) by rot1.ohcapcon.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.4.184) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:47:08 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010122114518.053269c0@mail.hannah.com> X-Sender: frank@mail.hannah.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:47:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Frank Atkinson Subject: [PDF] Length Limit on title field In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010122100001.00b4e840@mail.omnipress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======44735887======="; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3A541128 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ --=======44735887======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3A541128 What's the maximum length of the title field and other fields in pdf files ?? Frank Atkinson http://www.ohcapcon.com Ohio Capitol Connection/Rotunda Inc http://www.rotundainc.com Columbus, Ohio mailto:frank@ohcapcon.com 614-227-5820 fx:614-228-5897 --=======44735887======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3A541128 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.227 / Virus Database: 109 - Release Date: 01/17/2001 --=======44735887=======-- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 17:58:31-GMT,2767;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28772 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:58:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07580; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:58:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:51:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07272; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:51:37 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07268 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:51:36 -0600 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 161673 via TCP with SMTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:52:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010122100001.00b4e840@mail.omnipress.com> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010122100001.00b4e840@mail.omnipress.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:44:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] automatic to PDF Cc: uschan@omnipress.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 10:02 AM -0600 1/22/01, Chris Uschan wrote: >I am looking at ActivePDF for an internet based document conversion to PDF. > >Are there any other solutions on the market that compare to this software? > There are no other "prebuilt" solutions, nor any that handle as many different file formats as PDFDocConverter does. There are other tools that can be used to handle different conversions and on other OS platforms, but it would require you to build the "glue" to make it all work together. Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 18:34:02-GMT,2560;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00059 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:34:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11278; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:33:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:27:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10732; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:27:57 -0600 Received: from ca_exch.ventura.affinitygroup.com ([12.17.249.68]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10723 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:27:54 -0600 Received: by ca_exch.ventura.affinitygroup.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:27:53 -0800 Message-ID: <804FF696329FD31188F900508B55FA78E56CDE@ca_exch.ventura.affinitygroup.com> From: Bob Dawson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Add file name when printing PDF? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:27:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I'm looking for a utility that will allow me to add the file name when printing PDF files. We are a magazine publisher sending individual page files to our printer(s). Printer specs have us generating PS w/out Quark XPress marks and I'm wondering if there's a way to generate file names when PDF file is proofed. Now that we are doing several titles, it's sometimes confusing to have proofs w/out filenames in the folio (f/p ads, editorial bleeds, etc.) We use Watermarks to add trim marks to proofs but that doesn't seem to be the tool I'm looking for to do this particular task. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, --bd-- Bob Dawson Prepress Director TL Enterprises, Inc. "Recreation At Its Best" Ventura, CA (805)667-4397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 19:36:40-GMT,4989;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02134 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:36:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14842; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:36:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:29:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14430; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:29:45 -0600 Received: from mail.Firstdatacorp.COM ([204.124.84.42]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14426 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:29:43 -0600 From: Jeanie.Shoemaker@firstdatacorp.com Received: (from smtp@localhost) by mail.Firstdatacorp.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18250 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:17:19 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.firstdatacorp.com: smtp set sender to using -f Received: from () by mail via smap (V2.1) id xma017918; Mon, 22 Jan 01 19:15:59 GMT Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: unable to copy text (was: no subject) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3 March 21, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:27:43 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SRVMTA1/FDR/FDC(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 01/22/2001 01:28:12 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We start with a single postscript file and distill it twice: once with distiller settings for screen optimization and once with distiller settings for print optimization. This gives us one PDF to send to the print shop and one for online use. Using watched folders, this workflow moves smoothly for us. Don't know why this wouldn't work for someone else... Jeanie "Aandi Inston" e.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: unable to copy text (was: no subject) owner-pdf@lists.p dfzone.com 01/22/2001 09:55 AM Please respond to pdf The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > One purpose for the PDF is for users/recipients to print and > to copy/paste. > The other purpose is to send to a CTP device for platemaking/printing. You mean you are attempting to make a single PostScript file for typesetter output, and also for distilling? This is an idea which seems appealing, but I can only advise against it. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 19:42:46-GMT,2417;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02313 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:42:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15330; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:42:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:37:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14898; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:37:08 -0600 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14894 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:37:07 -0600 From: geojohn@att.net Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.28]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20010122193653.JAYN2072.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:36:53 +0000 Received: from [208.7.52.22] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:36:52 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Add file name when printing PDF? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:36:52 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 14 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: geojohn@att.net Message-Id: <20010122193653.JAYN2072.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I'm looking for a utility that will allow me to add > the file name when printing PDF files. You could add a text form field to one or more pages and use JavaScript to set its value to "this.path" when the PDF opens. You could use pdfmarks or the Forms API to automate the task of adding any such fields. George Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 20:13:32-GMT,2933;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03245 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:13:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17507; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:13:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:07:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17205; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:07:34 -0600 Received: from mailgw3.netvision.net.il (mailgw3.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.11]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17201 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:07:31 -0600 Received: from netvision.net.il (ras8-p190.tlv.netvision.net.il [62.0.71.190]) by mailgw3.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12608 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:06:15 +0200 (IST) Message-ID: <3A6D1F70.948EE1CD@netvision.net.il> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:06:40 -0800 From: Shlomo Ramon Organization: Linkcom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat install on Windows 2000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------FEE18E5D747618E98E2AF295" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FEE18E5D747618E98E2AF295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Apologize if this has been discussed before, but am having trouble to properly install Acrobat 4.05 on a laptop running Win 2000 - the Distiller printer just refuses to install. 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Susan Frank Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com >>> frank@hannah.com 01/22/01 08:47AM >>> What's the maximum length of the title field and other fields in pdf files ?? Frank Atkinsonhttp://www.ohcapcon.com Ohio Capitol Connection/Rotunda Inchttp://www.rotundainc.com Columbus, Ohiomailto:frank@ohcapcon.com 614-227-5820 fx:614-228-5897 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 20:23:44-GMT,2613;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03556 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:23:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18549; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:23:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:18:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17989; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:18:17 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17984 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:18:16 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA27757 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:18:21 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: unable to copy text (was: no subject) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:18:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c084b0$7420efc0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > We start with a single postscript file and distill it twice: once with > distiller settings for screen optimization and once with > distiller settings > for print optimization. This gives us one PDF to send to the > print shop and > one for online use. Using watched folders, this workflow > moves smoothly for > us. Don't know why this wouldn't work for someone else... That sounds a fine idea. The original message seemed to want to produce a single file, Distill it once, and send the other directly to an imagesetter. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 21:18:35-GMT,4672;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05122 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:18:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22344; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:17:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:11:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21942; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:11:04 -0600 Received: from ahab.ccrprocess.net ([206.96.41.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21938 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:11:02 -0600 From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Distilling .ps twice (was: unable to copy text) X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:07:32 -0800 X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Trend MailScan on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/22/2001 01:06:47 PM, MIME-CD complete at 01/22/2001 01:06:47 PM, Serialize by Router on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/22/2001 01:06:58 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA21939 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In "watched folders" it gives you option to either delete .ps or move it to "out" folder. How does one distill two versions (one for print and screen) in "watched" folders? Or do you have to manually do the second file? Is there a "batch" process in distiller for several files/several versions that I've missed? Thanks! |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| | | Robert | | | | | | E-MAIL: | | | robert_lira@balboainsurance.com | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| | | "Aandi Inston" | | | | | | | | owner-pdf@lists.pdfzo|         cc: | | | ne.com |         Subject: | | | | RE: [PDF] RE: unable | | | 01/22/2001 12:18 PM | to copy text (was: no| | | Please respond to pdf| subject) | | | | | |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > We start with a single postscript file and distill it twice: once with > distiller settings for screen optimization and once with > distiller settings > for print optimization. This gives us one PDF to send to the > print shop and > one for online use. Using watched folders, this workflow > moves smoothly for > us. Don't know why this wouldn't work for someone else... That sounds a fine idea. The original message seemed to want to produce a single file, Distill it once, and send the other directly to an imagesetter. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 21:22:48-GMT,3482;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05258 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:22:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22706; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:22:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:16:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22246; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:16:35 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22242 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:16:34 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA28869 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:20:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22040; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G7L1R800.80M; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:16:20 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010122131305.02816cc8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:16:20 -0800 To: Shlomo Ramon From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat install on Windows 2000 Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <3A6D1F70.948EE1CD@netvision.net.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Installation of Adobe software generally requires that you be logged on as the Administrator or as an Administrator equivalent. Furthermore, I believe that the Acrobat Distiller printer instance won't install unless there is an existing PostScript printer instance. If that is true, you can get that printer instance by downloading the Adobe PostScript Universal Driver Installer 1.0.2 from the Adobe web site and running that, creating a generic "to file" PostScript printer. This must also be done as an administrator. Then install Acrobat 4.05. Then you can delete that generic "to file" printer instance. - Dov At 1/22/2001 10:06 PM, Shlomo Ramon wrote: >Hello, >Apologize if this has been discussed before, but am having trouble to >properly install Acrobat 4.05 on a laptop running Win 2000 - the >Distiller printer just refuses to install. Same program installed >faultlessly on Win 98. >What am I doing wrong? >Again sincere apologies, just please point me in the right direction >Thanks. > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 21:49:37-GMT,6922;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05978 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:49:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24803; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:48:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:43:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24431; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:43:12 -0600 Received: from mail.Firstdatacorp.COM (mail.firstdatacorp.com [204.124.84.42]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24425 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:43:10 -0600 From: Jeanie.Shoemaker@firstdatacorp.com Received: (from smtp@localhost) by mail.Firstdatacorp.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17898 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:30:41 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.firstdatacorp.com: smtp set sender to using -f Received: from () by mail via smap (V2.1) id xma017653; Mon, 22 Jan 01 21:29:32 GMT Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Distilling .ps twice (was: unable to copy text) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3 March 21, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:41:20 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SRVMTA1/FDR/FDC(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 01/22/2001 03:41:45 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA24428 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have two watched folders, and manually move the postscript file from the out folder in the first watched folder to the In folder in the second watched folder. Works for me, so I've never tried to figure out a way to automate it. My watched folders are set up to retain the postscript file in the out folder. Robert_Lira@BalboaIns urance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sent by: cc: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzo Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Distilling .ps twice (was: unable to copy ne.com text) 01/22/2001 03:07 PM Please respond to pdf The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In "watched folders" it gives you option to either delete .ps or move it to "out" folder. How does one distill two versions (one for print and screen) in "watched" folders? Or do you have to manually do the second file? Is there a "batch" process in distiller for several files/several versions that I've missed? Thanks! |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| | | Robert | | | | | | E-MAIL: | | | robert_lira@balboainsurance.com | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| | | "Aandi Inston" | | | | | | | | owner-pdf@lists.pdfzo|         cc: | | | ne.com |         Subject: | | | | RE: [PDF] RE: unable | | | 01/22/2001 12:18 PM | to copy text (was: no| | | Please respond to pdf| subject) | | | | | |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > We start with a single postscript file and distill it twice: once with > distiller settings for screen optimization and once with > distiller settings > for print optimization. This gives us one PDF to send to the > print shop and > one for online use. Using watched folders, this workflow > moves smoothly for > us. Don't know why this wouldn't work for someone else... That sounds a fine idea. The original message seemed to want to produce a single file, Distill it once, and send the other directly to an imagesetter. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 21:58:50-GMT,3470;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06321 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:58:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25519; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:58:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:52:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25044; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:52:37 -0600 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25040 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:52:36 -0600 Received: (qmail 20357 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2001 21:52:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CAT8) ([213.224.16.227]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jan 2001 21:52:35 -0000 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat install on Windows 2000 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:52:14 +0100 Message-ID: <001001c084bd$95285e30$e310e0d5@CAT8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010122131305.02816cc8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA25041 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dov, > Furthermore, I believe that the Acrobat Distiller printer > instance won't install unless there is an existing PostScript > printer instance. I know for a fact that what you say is correct. To complicate matters most of the time the installer warns about it, but on some systems it does not give a warning. I experienced this when first installing on my system - very confusing. Another problem I've seen with the Distiller is that the PDFMaker macro in Word sometimes 'looses track' of it. Distiller appears not to be installed any more and only an un-install and re-install solves the matter. If anyone knows why that happens, you would make my day! David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com Director of Software Development ---------------------------------------------------- PDF, Questions and Answers: http://dvd.telenet.be -------------------------------------------- Windows NT crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams. -------------------------------------------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 22:04:13-GMT,2714;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06461 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:04:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26194; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:03:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:58:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25478; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:57:58 -0600 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25467 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:57:56 -0600 Received: from lpiper.demon.co.uk ([158.152.165.240] helo=postle.net) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14KoyI-000J7B-0A for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:57:55 +0000 Message-ID: <3A6CB8EB.1A7ED9F5@postle.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:49:16 +0000 From: Denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD472 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat install on Windows 2000 References: <3A6D1F70.948EE1CD@netvision.net.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello Schlomo, You might like to check out Adobe Knowledge Base text No:325053 which tells of the need for a pre-installed postscript printer before Distiller printer will install. I have followed through on what this suggests and it has made no difference... still no Distiller printer under W2000 Please let me know if you find a fix. Denis Postle Shlomo Ramon wrote: > Hello, > Apologize if this has been discussed before, but am having trouble to > properly install Acrobat 4.05 on a laptop running Win 2000 - the > Distiller printer just refuses to install. Same program installed > faultlessly on Win 98. > What am I doing wrong? > Again sincere apologies, just please point me in the right direction > Thanks. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 22:04:26-GMT,2493;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06465 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:04:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26219; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:03:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:58:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25554; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:58:23 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25550 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:58:19 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA27932 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:57:56 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Distilling .ps twice (was: unable to copy text) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:57:48 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c084be$5c5e23e0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > In "watched folders" it gives you option to either delete .ps > or move it to > "out" > folder. > > How does one distill two versions (one for print and screen) > in "watched" > folders? > > Or do you have to manually do the second file? You could drag the folder from the second OUT to the first IN; or duplicate before Distilling; or have some very simple program that helped with either. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Jan-2001 22:25:17-GMT,3690;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07106 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:25:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28067; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:25:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:19:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAB27796; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:19:08 -0600 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27792 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:19:07 -0600 Received: from digitalc (ip88.stamford6.ct.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.182.88]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA25542 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:18:23 -0800 (PST) From: "Robet E. Moran" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat install on Windows 2000 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:20:14 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3A6CB8EB.1A7ED9F5@postle.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Question, did you reformat the drive prior to installing wonderful 2000. That is essential because upgrading from NT or 98 does not do it. I had no problem installing 4.05 including the Distiller printer once I did a "clean" install. HTH Bob Moran -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Denis Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 5:49 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat install on Windows 2000 The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello Schlomo, You might like to check out Adobe Knowledge Base text No:325053 which tells of the need for a pre-installed postscript printer before Distiller printer will install. I have followed through on what this suggests and it has made no difference... still no Distiller printer under W2000 Please let me know if you find a fix. Denis Postle Shlomo Ramon wrote: > Hello, > Apologize if this has been discussed before, but am having trouble to > properly install Acrobat 4.05 on a laptop running Win 2000 - the > Distiller printer just refuses to install. Same program installed > faultlessly on Win 98. > What am I doing wrong? > Again sincere apologies, just please point me in the right direction > Thanks. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Jan-2001 7:41:32-GMT,4066;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20206 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:41:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17463; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:41:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:29:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA16660; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:29:26 -0600 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16656 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:29:24 -0600 Received: from lpiper.demon.co.uk ([158.152.165.240] helo=postle.net) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14KxtL-000EPs-0W for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:29:23 +0000 Message-ID: <3A6D3ED3.52EE0BF8@postle.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:20:35 +0000 From: Denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD472 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat install on Windows 2000 References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010122131305.02816cc8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I'll check with my support person about whether 'admin log on' is different than what I have been using for my standlone operation...but following the clean install of W2000, Acrobat installed Distiller printer OK under my regular process. Only after a subsequent uninstal/reinstall did it go missing and stays so today despite numerous repeats. Having either a virtual postscript printer or the generic postscript printer installed has made no difference on my setup, nor did suggestions from another list about removing 'extra' truetype fonts. Is there anything else I can do? Denis Postle The Mind Gymnasium: Digital edition Dov Isaacs wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Installation of Adobe software generally requires that you be logged > on as the Administrator or as an Administrator equivalent. > > Furthermore, I believe that the Acrobat Distiller printer instance won't > install unless there is an existing PostScript printer instance. > If that is true, you can get that printer instance by downloading the > Adobe PostScript Universal Driver Installer 1.0.2 from the Adobe web site > and running that, creating a generic "to file" PostScript printer. > This must also be done as an administrator. > > Then install Acrobat 4.05. Then you can delete that generic "to file" > printer instance. > > - Dov > > At 1/22/2001 10:06 PM, Shlomo Ramon wrote: > >Hello, > >Apologize if this has been discussed before, but am having trouble to > >properly install Acrobat 4.05 on a laptop running Win 2000 - the > >Distiller printer just refuses to install. Same program installed > >faultlessly on Win 98. > >What am I doing wrong? > >Again sincere apologies, just please point me in the right direction > >Thanks. > > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Jan-2001 11:45:09-GMT,3008;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA25255 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 04:45:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29195; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:45:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:38:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28915; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:38:48 -0600 Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28911 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:38:47 -0600 Received: from merlin-os.demon.co.uk ([194.222.123.109]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14L1mf-000Cw8-0B for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:38:46 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:53:43 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Length Limit on title field References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In message , Susan Frank wrote: >The maximum length of document information fields is 255 characters. Actually, it is not! This is only the artificial limit imposed by what you can type into the standard fields using Acrobat's General Info dialogue. Programmatically, you can create fields to contain as much as a string may hold in a PDF. I believe that this is at least 64KB. We have written software that generates large fields using the Acrobat API without any problems. Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9524333 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9472625 (& 24hr answerphone) P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Jan-2001 12:30:22-GMT,3102;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA26029 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:30:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA31547; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:30:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:24:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA31203; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:24:29 -0600 Received: from smtp.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA31199 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:24:27 -0600 Received: (qmail 26295 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2001 12:24:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cat6) ([213.224.11.106]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Jan 2001 12:24:27 -0000 From: "David van Driessche" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Length Limit on title field Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:24:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c08537$6d2ec110$2100a8c0@cat6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ David, > Programmatically, you can create fields to contain as much as > a string may hold in a PDF. I believe that this is at least 64KB. Precisely 64KB to be exact. The definition of a "string" in the PDF specification says that its length is subject to an implementation limit. In the appendix about implementation limits the maximum for the length of a string is given to be 65535 bytes. David. ---------------------------------------------------------------- David van Driessche Email: davidvd@enfocus.be Enfocus Software Web: http://www.enfocus.com Director of Software Development -------------------------------------------------------- PDF Questions and answers: http://dvd.telenet.be ------------------------------------------------ Chaos reigns within. Reflect. Repent. Reboot. 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Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:28:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23787; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:28:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:21:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23402; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:20:54 -0600 Received: from ns1.dolby.com ([38.169.100.54]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23392 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:20:51 -0600 Received: by bronze.dolby.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:20:38 -0800 Message-ID: <0FAAFBF846ABD211A19100805FA6A55A0184AB9D@GOLD> From: "Freeman, Susan" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] URLs with commas Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:21:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C0857A.1AC953C0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0857A.1AC953C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0857A.1AC953C0" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0857A.1AC953C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have come upon an interesting problem with URL inside PDF files. If the URL contains any commas, it cannot be found from within MS Internet Explorer. The same URL in the same PDF if fine if the PDF is opened from Netscape Navigator. I first encountered this problem last year, but assumed it was an anomaly that would somehow come out in the wash, IE revisions. But it hasn't. So here is an example. Any suggestions (other than "use Netscape" which is not an option here) would be welcome. A solution would be fantastic. <> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0857A.1AC953C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable URLs with commas

I have come upon an interesting = problem with URL inside PDF files.  If the URL contains any = commas, it cannot be found from within MS Internet Explorer.  The = same URL in the same PDF if fine if the PDF is opened from Netscape = Navigator.  I first encountered this problem last year, but = assumed it was an anomaly that would somehow come out in the wash, IE = revisions.  But it hasn't. 

So here is an example.  Any = suggestions (other than "use Netscape" which is not an option = here) would be welcome.  A solution would be fantastic.

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Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:59:13 -0600 Received: from [192.168.0.7] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by raq.prodok.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA20089; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:58:34 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: max%prodok.com@mail7.burlee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0FAAFBF846ABD211A19100805FA6A55A0184AB9D@GOLD> References: <0FAAFBF846ABD211A19100805FA6A55A0184AB9D@GOLD> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:53:37 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] URLs with commas Cc: "Freeman, Susan" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Although they say that commas should not need to be URLEncoded, you could try to do so. So, try using %2c instead of the comma and see what happens. BTW, no attachments in mailing lists, please. Also, please avoid HTML text in messages for mailing lists. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:max@prodok.com http://www.prodok.com [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >I have come upon an interesting problem with URL inside PDF files. >If the URL contains any commas, it cannot be found from within MS >Internet Explorer. The same URL in the same PDF if fine if the PDF >is opened from Netscape Navigator. I first encountered this problem >last year, but assumed it was an anomaly that would somehow come out >in the wash, IE revisions. But it hasn't. > >So here is an example. Any suggestions (other than "use Netscape" >which is not an option here) would be welcome. A solution would be >fantastic. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Jan-2001 22:48:51-GMT,3336;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12887 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:48:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31267; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:47:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:41:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30999; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:41:25 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30995 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:41:24 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA21642 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:45:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17962; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G7N0CL00.RG5; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:41:09 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010123143926.027e9618@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:41:08 -0800 To: "Freeman Susan" From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] URLs with commas Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <0FAAFBF846ABD211A19100805FA6A55A0184AB9D@GOLD> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Susan, The answer is that the "comma" is a special character. Like some other special characters in a URL, such as a "blank", you must do an "escape" for it. Replace the comma characters each with %2c and the URL will work perfectly fine with Internet Explorer. - Dov At 1/23/2001 12:21 PM, Freeman, Susan wrote: >I have come upon an interesting problem with URL inside PDF files. If the URL contains any commas, it cannot be found from within MS Internet Explorer. The same URL in the same PDF if fine if the PDF is opened from Netscape Navigator. I first encountered this problem last year, but assumed it was an anomaly that would somehow come out in the wash, IE revisions. But it hasn't. > >So here is an example. Any suggestions (other than "use Netscape" which is not an option here) would be welcome. A solution would be fantastic. > ><> Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Jan-2001 17:33:02-GMT,3554;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03395 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:33:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14993; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:32:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:25:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14581; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:25:30 -0600 Received: from mail.document-solutions.com (mail.document-solutions.com [216.103.111.12]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14559 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:25:23 -0600 Received: from OAKLAND-Message_Server by mail.document-solutions.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:25:17 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:25:01 -0800 From: "Susan Frank" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Length Limit on title field Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA14569 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ David, Will Catalog index more than 255 characters? Perhaps my information is out of date! Susan Frank Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com >>> dre@merlin-os.co.uk 01/23/01 02:53AM >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In message , Susan Frank wrote: >The maximum length of document information fields is 255 characters. Actually, it is not! This is only the artificial limit imposed by what you can type into the standard fields using Acrobat's General Info dialogue. Programmatically, you can create fields to contain as much as a string may hold in a PDF. I believe that this is at least 64KB. We have written software that generates large fields using the Acrobat API without any problems. Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9524333 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9472625 (& 24hr answerphone) P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jan-2001 14:06:52-GMT,2632;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01423 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:06:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04153; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:06:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:55:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03002; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:55:52 -0600 Received: from mail2.iserv.net (mail2.iserv.net [204.177.184.152]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02997 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:55:51 -0600 Received: from [208.32.163.189] (tnt3-163-190.iserv.net [208.32.163.189]) by mail2.iserv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23112 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:55:16 -0500 X-Envelope-To: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:58:15 -0500 Subject: [PDF] PDF as a graphic format From: kk To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I'm looking for feedback, general info, etc. (white paper? book?) on PDF as a graphic format. In place of using EPS or TIFF files in my QuarkXPress work, I'd like to use PDF. File sizes are exponentially smaller, and from my experience, quality is the same. What possible trouble am I setting myself up for? I'm dealing almost exclusively with B&W artwork, mostly charts and graphs, other line art, some gray scale, B&W photo work, but not much. Exclusively book work: university presses, medical/science publishers. Mac G4, OS 9.04, Acrobat 4.05a, XPress 4.11, PDF Filter 1.51. --KK Keith Kuhn Integrated Publishing Solutions Grand Rapids, MI Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jan-2001 15:28:03-GMT,2626;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03225 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:28:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10017; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:27:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:20:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09731; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:20:51 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09727 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:20:49 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA31732 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:20:48 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a graphic format Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:20:35 -0000 Message-ID: <003201c08619$34e681c0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I'm looking for feedback, general info, etc. (white paper? > book?) on PDF as > a graphic format. In place of using EPS or TIFF files in my > QuarkXPress > work, I'd like to use PDF. File sizes are exponentially > smaller, and from my > experience, quality is the same. What possible trouble am I > setting myself up for? Inability to print non-PostScript with good quality (same as EPS, may not be an issue). Inability to colour separate with QuarkXPress, so far as I can tell (is this still the case)? Inability to place files with PDF 1.3 compatibility (or is this fixed)? Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jan-2001 16:01:44-GMT,2700;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04071 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:01:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12137; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:00:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:54:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11744; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:54:31 -0600 Received: from smtpnew.quark.com (root@smtpnew.quark.com [206.195.78.16]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11740 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:54:30 -0600 Received: from denver.quark.com (denver.quark.com [206.195.71.192]) by smtpnew.quark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28440 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:15:41 -0700 Received: by denver.quark.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:53:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C08734CEF@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a graphic format Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:53:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ <> I've printed to non-PostScript with imported PDF with no less quality than EPS <> Not true, IF the PDF doesn't contain RGB elements (which won't separate properly) <> Not true; PDF Filter 1.5/1.51 will import PDF 1.3 Todd Reid Quark, Inc. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jan-2001 16:33:18-GMT,2443;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04845 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:33:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14354; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:33:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:25:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13759; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:25:05 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13750 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:25:02 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA31846 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:25:03 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a graphic format Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:24:46 -0000 Message-ID: <003301c08622$2df031a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C08734CEF@denver.quark.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > < I can tell (is this still the case)?>> > > Not true, IF the PDF doesn't contain RGB elements (which > won't separate properly) Is this a definite with all versions of the filter? I see many complaints about failure to separate being put down to the filter. Does it separate indexed CMYK, and spot colour? Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jan-2001 16:54:17-GMT,3044;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05455 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:54:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16033; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:54:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:46:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15515; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:46:56 -0600 Received: from smtpnew.quark.com (root@smtpnew.quark.com [206.195.78.16]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15511 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:46:55 -0600 Received: from denver.quark.com (denver.quark.com [206.195.71.192]) by smtpnew.quark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31364 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:08:06 -0700 Received: by denver.quark.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:46:24 -0700 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C08734CF1@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a graphic format Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:46:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Aandi, My oversight. It will NOT correctly separate spot colours. As far as indexed CMYK, I'm not exactly sure what you mean... Todd -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [mailto:listreader2@quite.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 9:25 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a graphic format The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > < I can tell (is this still the case)?>> > > Not true, IF the PDF doesn't contain RGB elements (which > won't separate properly) Is this a definite with all versions of the filter? I see many complaints about failure to separate being put down to the filter. Does it separate indexed CMYK, and spot colour? Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jan-2001 19:57:57-GMT,2880;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11475 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:57:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25665; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:57:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:48:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25218; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:48:39 -0600 Received: from mail2.iserv.net (mail2.iserv.net [204.177.184.152]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25214 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:48:38 -0600 Received: from [208.32.164.15] (tnt3-164-16.iserv.net [208.32.164.15]) by mail2.iserv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08984 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:48:08 -0500 X-Envelope-To: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:51:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a graphic format From: kk To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003201c08619$34e681c0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Inability to print non-PostScript with good quality (same > as EPS, may not be an issue). Is this true? If you print a PDF file to a non-PostScript printer, it will come out similar to printing PS/EPS, that is, all sorts of things may come out looking terribly wrong. I assumed that was true: PDFs view the same across platform (etc) but can't be guaranteed to print the same at other locations, unless all locations have a PS printer to send to. (separate question from my original but something I'd liked confirmed by the likes of this list) > Inability to colour separate with QuarkXPress, so far as > I can tell (is this still the case)? I'll note that: B&W, OK. Color: still go with another file format, like TIFF. > Inability to place files with PDF 1.3 compatibility (or > is this fixed)? I can verify what Todd Reid said: problem was fixed with latest version of the PDF Filter. --KK Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jan-2001 20:46:38-GMT,3375;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12749 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:46:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28137; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:45:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:38:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27859; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:38:40 -0600 Received: from mailgw2.netvision.net.il (mailgw2.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.9]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27855 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:38:37 -0600 Received: from netvision.net.il (ras2-p232.tlv.netvision.net.il [62.0.65.232]) by mailgw2.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06514 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:39:29 +0200 (IST) Message-ID: <3A6FC87D.A5D5D66D@netvision.net.il> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:32:29 -0800 From: Shlomo Ramon Organization: Linkcom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Acrobat on Win 2000 References: <200101241355.HAA03023@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9E6854407DD3ECBF78736E86" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9E6854407DD3ECBF78736E86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all who gave advice, especially Dov - it worked (logon as administrator on Win 2000 to install distiller together with Acro 4.xx.). That's the good news to all others that had a similar problem. Bad news: still have to distill the roundabout old way - such as print to Distiller, or to PS printer and the distill the PS file, because Word sends a message about a macro being disabled or a security risk. Why?? Another question: in trying to install Pagemaker ME (Hebrew\Arabic enabled) both W98 and Win2000 result in: installation apparently completes faultlessly, yet when I try to run the app, the result is an error message saying : invalid link to something and that is the end of it... Any Maven on that? --------------9E6854407DD3ECBF78736E86 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ramsol.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Shlomo Ramon Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ramsol.vcf" begin:vcard n:Ramon;Shlomo tel;cell:972 055 602237 tel;fax:1 561 423 0959 tel;home:972 3 5718160 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:ramsol@netvision.net.il, fn:Shlomo Ramon end:vcard --------------9E6854407DD3ECBF78736E86-- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jan-2001 21:58:44-GMT,3184;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14758 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:58:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32286; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:57:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:50:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32005; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:50:23 -0600 Received: from cam-mailer1.bbn.com (cam-mailer1.bbn.com [171.78.68.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31972 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:50:14 -0600 Received: from ctex01.us.cybertrust.com (ctex01.us.cybertrust.com [192.233.30.4]) by cam-mailer1.bbn.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10282 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:50:14 -0500 (EST) X-Recipient: Received: by ctex01.us.cybertrust.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:44:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Bigelow, Janet" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com '" Subject: [PDF] Displaying PDF files on Unix Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:44:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am converting .doc files to PDF using Acrobat Distiller in a Windows NT 4.0 environment, and then FTP-ing them to my Unix machine (Solaris 2.6) and viewing them there with Acrobat reader 4.0 for Unix Sun SPARC. The files display fine in NT, however, I've been having multiple error messages in Unix when I open and view the files. For example, I receive the following messages:"There was an error processing a page. Too few operands." "Unable to extract [an embedded font]. Some characters may not display or print correctly." "There was an error processing a page. An unrecognized token '/' was found." "There was an error processing a page.Wrong operand type." and "There was a problem reading the document (114). I have the most recent Printer Driver (5.1.2) installed on Acrobat Distiller. I know there are multiple settings that could be effecting this, and I'd like to hear from anyone who has encountered a similar problem and resolved it. Thanks. Janet Bigelow Baltimore Technologies Needham, MA 02494 ____________________________________ Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Jan-2001 23:18:03-GMT,2438;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17012 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:18:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03689; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:15:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:07:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03289; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:07:56 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03284 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:07:48 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA32497 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:07:44 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Displaying PDF files on Unix Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:07:52 -0000 Message-ID: <000101c0865a$7b4d0e40$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >I am converting .doc files to PDF using Acrobat Distiller in a Windows NT >4.0 environment, and then FTP-ing them to my Unix machine >(Solaris 2.6) and viewing them there with Acrobat reader 4.0 for > Unix Sun SPARC. The files display fine in NT, however, I've been > having multiple error messages in Unix... My guess: you forgot to use binary FTP. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 0:31:27-GMT,3941;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19070 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:31:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07584; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:30:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:23:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07237; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:23:55 -0600 Received: from raq.prodok.net (www.ewebcart.com [209.217.19.156] (may be forged)) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07233 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:23:54 -0600 Received: from [192.168.0.7] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by raq.prodok.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22253; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:23:46 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: max%prodok.com@mail7.burlee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:13:37 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Displaying PDF files on Unix Cc: "Bigelow, Janet" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Janet, this has nothing to do with Acrobat, but with the way you transfer the documents to the other machine. For certain (dumb) FTP clients, a PDF document looks like a text file, which IT IS NOT. What happens is that during the upload, either the client or the server starts making changes, for example changing line end characters. This, of course, completely messes up the document beyond repair. Make sure that you transfer your PDFs _binary_, or _raw_. And the problems should disappear. If that does not work, create archives (as far as I know, there are utilities available for Windows which can create archives for Solaris. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:max@prodok.com http://www.prodok.com [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >I am converting .doc files to PDF using Acrobat Distiller in a Windows NT >4.0 environment, and then FTP-ing them to my Unix machine (Solaris 2.6) and >viewing them there with Acrobat reader 4.0 for Unix Sun SPARC. The files >display fine in NT, however, I've been having multiple error messages in >Unix when I open and view the files. For example, I receive the following >messages:"There was an error processing a page. Too few operands." "Unable >to extract [an embedded font]. Some characters may not display or print >correctly." "There was an error processing a page. An unrecognized token '/' >was found." "There was an error processing a page.Wrong operand type." and >"There was a problem reading the document (114). I have the most recent >Printer Driver (5.1.2) installed on Acrobat Distiller. I know there are >multiple settings that could be effecting this, and I'd like to hear from >anyone who has encountered a similar problem and resolved it. Thanks. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 3:16:48-GMT,8362;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22921 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:16:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13911; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:15:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:09:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13586; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:09:01 -0600 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13582; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:08:58 -0600 Received: from [165.121.112.210] (user-2inis6i.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.112.210]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA28171; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:08:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101250308.WAA28171@barry.mail.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: why PDF? (as a graphics format) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:06:57 -0400 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA13583 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ on 1/24/01 9:55 AM, pdf-digest wrote; >I'm looking for feedback, general info, etc. (white paper? book?) on PDF as >a graphic format. In place of using EPS or TIFF files in my QuarkXPress >work, I'd like to use PDF. File sizes are exponentially smaller, and from my >experience, quality is the same. What possible trouble am I setting myself >up for? > >I'm dealing almost exclusively with B&W artwork, mostly charts and graphs, >other line art, some gray scale, B&W photo work, but not much. > >Exclusively book work: university presses, medical/science publishers. > >Mac G4, OS 9.04, Acrobat 4.05a, XPress 4.11, PDF Filter 1.51. > >- --KK > >Keith Kuhn >Integrated Publishing Solutions >Grand Rapids, MI well, certainly, besides visiting Adobes site, there are several books available, most of them "how to" type books... Adobe certainly is not only using PDF as its "new EPS" - they are certainly moving quickly to PDF as the "native" file format for its application suite - Illustrator 9, Photoshop 6 all save as PDF, as can InDesign - In Production even lets you preflight PDF file, fix andchange objects to different conditions for processing, view how a PDF will separate, apply In-RIP Trapping zones - clearly, this is Adobe's darling file format. If you go to trade shows like Seybold, Graph Expo, Drupa - you will really will not find ANY high end prepress vendor that does not either generate, modify, consume and process PDF files into proofs, film separations or Printing plates - In fact, Agfa (with Apogee) and CreoScitex) with Prinergy) use it as our internal file format for our high end prepress workflow systems that we sell to drive our proofing systems, computer to film and computer to plate systems. You will find many software developers offering solutions that trap, impose, separate, merge and export PDF in the design and publishing space. why has this happened? (appologies to David Evans at Adobe, whom i lifted most of the below from - but hey, why re-write what was so perfectly described?) back in "the day" - Programmers would read the Adobe PostScript Language Reference Manual, type PostScript "code" into a text file, and then send it to the printer to be "processed" Adobe Illustrator was the first "graphical PostScript interface," much in the same way that Microsoft® Windows 1.0 put a graphical user interface on top of MS/DOS. (or, better said, Apple invented Finder) Adobe Illustrator allows the designer to draw with graphic tools while it automatically writes a PostScript program in the background. You can save as EPS (Encapsulated PostScript) and place these files in other applications (like Quark XPress picture boxes) but the "preview" is quite poor, and gets worse as you zoom in. It is still PostScript, which is a programing language designed to do one thing: describe extremely accurately what a page looks like. Every programming language needs a processor to run or execute the code. In the case of PostScript, this processor is a combination of software and hardware which typically lives in a printer, and we call it a RIP - a Raster Image Processor. A RIP takes in PostScript code and renders it into dots on a page. So a PostScript printer is a device that reads and interprets PostScript programs, producing graphical information that gets imaged to paper, film, or plate. One way to use PostScript is to print a file to disk and save it as one single PostScript file which can be sent on to a print service provider. Another is to create EPS files as a way to save and distribute graphics. This is where many people get confused. When you hear people say that PDF is a "replacement" for PostScript, what they most likely mean is that PDF is a replacement for saved PostScript files and EPS files. PDF is not a replacement for the PostScript language or the PostScript processors that live inside of printers, imagesetters, and platesetters. PDF is a particular file format, like EPS or native Illustrator files. It just so happens that PDF is built largely on the PostScript language, but it has been taken one step further. PostScript, was designed to describe a page. PDF does that as well, but beyond this, PDF can also contain information not only related to how a page looks, but also can describe how it behaves and what kind of information is contained in the file. So PDF is a file format that is smarter than EPS. A PDF file can contain fonts, images, printing instructions, keywords for searching and indexing, job tickets, interactive hyperlinks, movies, and so on. So why is PDF more advanced than PostScript? A PDF file is actually a PostScript file which has already been interpreted by a RIP and made into clearly defined objects. These objects are viewable on screen not in code, but in visual objects that everyone can see. Because these files are already interpreted by the RIP, they can be more reliable than an EPS or a .PS file when printed. Additionally, because EPS files and .PS files can be easily converted to PDF and viewed on screen, print service providers can benefit from seeing the file after interpretation but before they send it to their printing devices. This may allow them to see errors in a file before wasting paper, film, or plates. This can be a terrific timesaver for people who run service bureaus or operate printers, and the result is that files print faster, more accurately, and with fewer errors. In order for a PDF file to be printed, however, the printer still needs to render the PDF objects to the page, and a PostScript printer is still the most reliable way to do this. Some PostScript printers understand not only the PostScript language, but also PDF files natively. And some printers, using a technology we call Extreme, actually convert all jobs into a PDF file prior to printing. (Agfa, Creo, Heidelberg, and Scitex are shipping print workflows based on Extreme.) Adobe Acrobat® - our tool for enriching and modifying a PDF file - can print PDF to non-PostScript printers by interpreting the PDF file into that printer's language. But these languages aren't as reliable or accurate as true Adobe PostScript, so professionals use a PostScript processor for best results. hope that helps. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 12:40:31-GMT,2716;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03505 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 05:40:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02210; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:27:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:19:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA01822; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:19:54 -0600 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01818 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:19:53 -0600 Received: from merlin-os.demon.co.uk ([194.222.123.109]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14LlNV-000JB9-0A for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:19:51 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:37:22 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Length Limit on title field References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In message , Susan Frank wrote: >Will Catalog index more than 255 characters? Perhaps my information is out of >date! I do not know what Catalog indexes, but it would be interesting to try. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9524333 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9472625 (& 24hr answerphone) P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG1 3ND, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 15:38:34-GMT,6058;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07189 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:38:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11880; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:26:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:19:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11319; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:19:46 -0600 Received: from mail3.iserv.net (mail3.iserv.net [204.177.184.153]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11315 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:19:44 -0600 Received: from [204.157.27.241] (tnt2-27-241.iserv.net [204.157.27.241]) by mail3.iserv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17179 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:19:43 -0500 X-Envelope-To: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:22:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: why PDF? From: kk To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200101250308.WAA28171@barry.mail.mindspring.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA11316 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Wow, and thanks. In response, I'd like to introduce myself a bit better: I started using PDF files around 1994(?). I worked for a traditional book typesetter for university presses and medical/scientific pubs composing books and journals, using a DOS-based typesetting system named Magna (MagnaFile, MagnaPage). First use of PDFs was customer-driven and was converting journal articles for use online. Second use of PDFs was something I discovered on my own (OK, probably with some help . . .). Magna generated EPSF files, one file per page, and some of then-current imposition software didn't like it much at all. Also found resistance from smaller Mac-based printers who didn't have a clue what to do with PC fonts (which couldn't be embedded in Magna's EPSF files). Converting files to PDF solved a few problems at once: fonts could be embedded (embedded subsets); using RunDir (right?) they could be combined (I was involved in discussions on this list about that in fact, and how the order in which files get combined is determined); and, well, you know the fairly universal advantages from there. > well, certainly, besides visiting Adobes site, there are several books > available, most of them "how to" type books... If you mean books about PDF in general, I've seen 'em, and even read a couple (but all back when Acrobat 3.x was current). I am specifically curious about PDF as an alternative to EPS or TIFF for placing graphics within a page-layout program--QuarkXPress in this case--which is a use for the format which my employer and I have started exploiting (?) in the past few months. We like the idea that 500 MB of scans as TIFF files can become 4 MB of PDF files, yet retain all the quality of the originals. We like many other things about the format, but this is a big advantage for a small shop with limited money to spend on external drives and a weariness for burning multiple CDs to archive big jobs. > Adobe certainly is not only using PDF as its "new EPS" - they are > certainly moving quickly to PDF as the "native" file format for its > application suite I really did appreciate all this. I remember your evangelism "way back when", and this is just the kind of thing I need as an update to what's happening. > (appologies to David Evans at Adobe, whom i lifted most of the below from > - but hey, why re-write what was so perfectly described?) Mike and David Evans and anyone else with an opinion should tell me what rules there are about me re-re-using this info, with credit where it's due of course. > Adobe Acrobat® - our tool for enriching and modifying a PDF file - can > print PDF to non-PostScript printers by interpreting the PDF file into > that printer's language. But these languages aren't as reliable or > accurate as true Adobe PostScript, so professionals use a PostScript > processor for best results. Thanks. That's a more precise explanation of something I had a vague feeling for. So, I now work for a different company producing similar products for similar customers. We approach the work with a different attitude than the company I used to work for, and getting the most out of the PDF format is something we're interested in. I will be presenting a seminar to book-publishing production people, along with some editors, designers, and comps/desktoppers. The focus is how PDFs can save time and money in a composition workflow. Bulleted points talk about distributing various stages of design, sample pages, page proofs, revisions, art proofs, etc., as PDFs delivered via the internet, vs. traditional shipping methods, saving time and money. Also better than using the fax machine, since the quality of the page doesn't degrade. These are things we are comfortable with doing and sharing with others, so I'm not asking anyone to do my homework for me.   I AM, however, hopeful that I can post questions to this list as I get deeper into my seminar outline. Would that be OK? --Keith Kuhn Integrated Publishing Solutions Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 15:38:35-GMT,2699;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07185 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:38:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11544; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:22:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:10:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10817; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:10:30 -0600 Received: from unknown-230-101.pilot.net (unknown-230-101.pilot.net [206.98.230.101]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10795 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:10:25 -0600 Received: from unknown-239-165.pilot.net (unknown-239-165.pilot.net [206.189.239.165]) by unknown-230-101.pilot.net with ESMTP id KAA09921 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:10:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from uswaumsxbhmedge.med.ge.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-239-165.pilot.net with ESMTP id KAA11838 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:10:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from jptkymsxbhmedge.med.ge.com (gemsa.med.ge.com [3.28.122.32]) by uswaumsxbhmedge.med.ge.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id D44FYQQ1; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:59:25 -0600 Received: by localhost with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:36:27 +0900 Message-ID: <95D655C3D17AD31192560090274D930E018FEC99@JPTKYMSX5MEDGE> From: "HIWATASHI, HELIO (MED,ID TKY JP )" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF -> Framemaker Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:36:25 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Sorry for a newbie and partially ot question. I have a lot of pdf files to migrate to Framemaker. Is there other way to do this than just copy and paste? Which source is better to migrate to Framemaker: rtf, pdf or ps? Helio Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 17:22:45-GMT,2756;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10518 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:22:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22311; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:09:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:02:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21750; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:02:38 -0600 Received: from mail2.mx.voyager.net (mail2.mx.voyager.net [216.93.66.201]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21746 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:02:37 -0600 Received: from oemcomputer (d22.as0.gdrp.mi.voyager.net [207.89.200.23]) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f0PABTM95735 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:11:29 GMT From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: [PDF] Browser Locks Up Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:07:21 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c086f1$47f2aae0$8fc859cf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ One of my clients pointed out that his IE browser (5.5) locks up and/or presents a blank page when going to the second page of a PDF. I had the same problem in the past but chalked it up to my slow connection and didn't pay much attention. The Adobe web site told me to Enable the options labeled "Download unsigned ActiveX controls" and "Initialize and script ActiveX Controls not marked as safe." This fixed the problem on my machine and speed up the file transfer time. Has anyone heard of a solution on the horizon to this problem? Because these settings are changes from the default settings (with the verious MS security upgrades), it must be a problem for a lot of other IE users. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 17:42:31-GMT,2987;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11341 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:42:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23827; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:30:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:21:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23267; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:21:54 -0600 Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23263 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:21:52 -0600 From: fjk@akgsoftware.de Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Lq5i-0006k6-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:21:46 +0100 Received: from pd4b89af7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([212.184.154.247] helo=akgsoftware.de) by mrvdom03.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Lq5Y-0005LO-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:21:37 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF -> Framemaker Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:22:20 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA23264 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Good use of Frame depends on consistent use of paragraph and character > tags. Frame is great for long, technical documents, heavy with graphics. Sounds like \LaTeX with a Windows user interface ;-) (Couldn't resist) Best, Franz-Josef Knelangen -------------------------------------------- Franz-Josef Knelangen AKG Software Consulting GmbH Jechtinger Stra?e 13 79111 Freiburg im Breisgau Germany Tel. : 0761-47821-19 PC-Fax : +49-761-47821-31 E-Mail : fjk@akgsoftware.de Tixi-Mail : FJK+49-761-4706926@Tixi.box -------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 17:43:21-GMT,3861;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11403 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:43:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24954; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:42:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:32:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23929; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:32:22 -0600 Received: from ns3.armintl.com (root@ns3.armintl.com [38.219.85.11]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23925 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:32:21 -0600 Received: from pc35 (aii2nat197.armintl.com [38.254.233.197]) by ns3.armintl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29339 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:32:17 -0500 From: "Pam Blasius" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Browser Locks Up Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:32:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <000501c086f1$47f2aae0$8fc859cf@oemcomputer> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: High Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Jim We are experiencing the same problem. I implemented the recommended Active X requirements and am still experiencing the problem. Any help will be greatly appreciated as we have been looking for a solution for a couple months now. I di know that if you hit the refresh button (sometimes up to 6 times) the file sometimes does completely display. Pam Blasius Marketing WebMaster Armstrong International, Inc. 816 Maple Street Three Rivers, MI 49093 USA Phone: (616) 279-3381 Fax: (616) 273-9057 pamb@armstrong-intl.com www.armstrong-intl.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Jim Cullen Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 12:07 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Browser Locks Up The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ One of my clients pointed out that his IE browser (5.5) locks up and/or presents a blank page when going to the second page of a PDF. I had the same problem in the past but chalked it up to my slow connection and didn't pay much attention. The Adobe web site told me to Enable the options labeled "Download unsigned ActiveX controls" and "Initialize and script ActiveX Controls not marked as safe." This fixed the problem on my machine and speed up the file transfer time. Has anyone heard of a solution on the horizon to this problem? Because these settings are changes from the default settings (with the verious MS security upgrades), it must be a problem for a lot of other IE users. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 17:51:01-GMT,2454;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11654 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:51:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25606; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:49:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:39:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24624; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:39:33 -0600 Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24620 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:39:31 -0600 Received: from [24.7.137.62] by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010125173921.XSYW18735.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[24.7.137.62]> for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:39:21 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jan.steinman@mail.bytesmiths.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200101251544.JAA13363@everglades.binc.net> References: <200101251544.JAA13363@everglades.binc.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:39:19 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jan Steinman Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a graphic format Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This may be a non-sequitur, but I haven't seen it mentioned yet. PDF is the native display model for MacOS X. This is only going to increase its viability and use as a graphics format, as well as accelerate the development of third-party tools. -- : Jan Steinman : Bytesmiths : 19280 Rydman Court, West Linn, OR 97068, 503.635.3229 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 16:03:51-GMT,2383;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07852 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:03:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14022; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:51:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:44:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13327; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:44:01 -0600 Received: from mail.gai-global.com ([63.66.130.67]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13322 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:43:44 -0600 Received: from CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM (unverified) by mail.gai-global.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:26:46 -0500 Received: by CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 852569DF.0054D62B ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:26:38 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AFG From: "Bob Riddle" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: <852569DF.0054D4E5.00@CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:24:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: why PDF? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I would very much be interested in 'How to' books on PDF related subject matter. I work for an insurance company in the IT Department. We are branching out into the Internet World with our products. So, I am trying to gain alot of knowledge on PDF, Tiff, Scanning, Imaging, etc. Any seminars or book titles would be appreciated if you know of any. Thanks Bob Riddle briddle@gaic.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 16:24:35-GMT,2099;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08421 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:24:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16258; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:11:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:04:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15414; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:04:34 -0600 Received: from mail.gai-global.com (mail.gai-global.com [63.66.130.67]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15408 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:04:32 -0600 Received: from CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM (unverified) by mail.gai-global.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:52:48 -0500 Received: by CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 852569DF.00573767 ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:52:38 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AFG From: "Bob Riddle" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: <852569DF.00573570.00@CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:50:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF -> Framemaker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ What does framemaker do for you? What is it's use? Just curious? Bob Riddle Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 16:31:21-GMT,2043;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08733 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:31:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA18390; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:31:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:22:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17489; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:22:47 -0600 Message-ID: <3A7053E0.6BC27BEF@utm.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:27:12 -0800 From: Jim Merante Organization: Utility Trailer Mfg. Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDFdev] Newbie to Java Script (need to do math on PDF form) References: <852569DF.0054D4E5.00@CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ **Cross posted to pdf@lists and pdfdev@lists** I am trying to create a form that will automatically total some simple arithmetic for some currency. Can somebody post something or point me in the right direction for SIMPLE JavaScript I can put behind some controls on an Acrobat page? -- Jim Merante Utility Trailer Mfg. 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Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Newbie to Java Script (need to do math on PDF form) References: <852569DF.0054D4E5.00@CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ **Cross posted to pdf@lists and pdfdev@lists** I am trying to create a form that will automatically total some simple arithmetic for some currency. Can somebody post something or point me in the right direction for SIMPLE JavaScript I can put behind some controls on an Acrobat page? -- Jim Merante Utility Trailer Mfg. Dealer Information Systems Administrator 626-854-7341 jmerante@utm.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 16:46:04-GMT,3386;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09187 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:46:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19061; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:36:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:29:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18121; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:29:33 -0600 Received: from outbound.lightshipmail.net (outbound.lightshipmail.net [216.204.0.39]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA18109 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:29:31 -0600 Message-Id: <200101251629.KAA18109@everglades.binc.net> Received: (qmail 12628 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2001 16:21:48 -0000 Received: from minime.idpco.com (HELO dflaptop) (216.204.61.86) by outbound.lightshipmail.net with SMTP; 25 Jan 2001 16:21:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:29:07 -0500 From: Dan Furbush Subject: re[2]: [PDF] Re: why PDF? To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: The IDP Companies, Inc. X-Mailer: GoldMine [4.00.9922] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA18110 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Bob: pdfzone.com has alot of publications about PDf as does the Adobe website knowledge base. The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I would very much be interested in 'How to' books on PDF related subject matter. I work for an insurance company in the IT Department. We are branching out into the Internet World with our products. So, I am trying to gain alot of knowledge on PDF, Tiff, Scanning, Imaging, etc. Any seminars or book titles would be appreciated if you know of any. Thanks Bob Riddle briddle@gaic.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- < Dan Furbush President & COO The IDP Companies 978-218-5000 Main 978-218-5072 Direct 978-218-5099 FAX The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 16:53:19-GMT,4865;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09365 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:53:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19481; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:40:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:33:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18682; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:33:52 -0600 Received: from mail.Firstdatacorp.COM (mail.firstdatacorp.com [204.124.84.42]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18677 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:33:51 -0600 From: Jeanie.Shoemaker@firstdatacorp.com Received: (from smtp@localhost) by mail.Firstdatacorp.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25010 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:21:25 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.firstdatacorp.com: smtp set sender to using -f Received: from () by mail via smap (V2.1) id xma024713; Thu, 25 Jan 01 16:20:12 GMT Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF -> Framemaker To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3 March 21, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:32:00 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SRVMTA1/FDR/FDC(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 01/25/2001 10:32:28 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ FrameMaker is a marvelous page layout program that is ideal for creating large books. It can create tables of contents, lists of figures, lists of references, indexes...much much more. Easy to go from Frame to HTML (using Quadralay WebWorks, designed to work with Frame) and to PDF, so single-sourcing is a piece of cake. The learning curve can be daunting. Good use of Frame depends on consistent use of paragraph and character tags. Frame is great for long, technical documents, heavy with graphics. "Bob Riddle" cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF -> Framemaker owner-pdf@lists.p dfzone.com 01/25/2001 09:50 AM Please respond to pdf The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ What does framemaker do for you? What is it's use? Just curious? Bob Riddle Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 17:07:11-GMT,3194;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09898 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:07:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20842; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:52:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:46:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20238; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:45:54 -0600 Received: from ahab.ccrprocess.net ([206.96.41.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20221 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:45:40 -0600 From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Dov's reply, was Why are Illustrator 8/9 & Acro4 bad fits? X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:42:05 -0800 X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Trend MailScan on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/25/2001 08:41:19 AM, MIME-CD complete at 01/25/2001 08:41:19 AM, Serialize by Router on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/25/2001 08:41:31 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA20227 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dov Isaacs previously wrote: >> (2) Contrary to popular belief, Illustrator (including 9) is NOT a general purpose PDF editor. There are numerous PDF constructs that do not directly translate into Illustrator objects. Illustrator 9 can only fully OPEN and interpret PDF files generated by Illustrator 9 and not otherwise "processed" and/or modified elsewhere. Any other PDF files are effectively IMPORTED with objects that do not match Illustrator object types either being translated into similar Illustrator object types or in some cases, dropped. Thus, you should never use Illustrator as a touch-up tool for PDF files, especially for those destined for press. << I've used Ai9 with good results for doing "minor" editing. Is there a "better" tool for doing "touch up" than Ai? Thanks! |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| | | Robert Lira | | | robert_lira@balboainsurance.com | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 18:10:05-GMT,4028;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12538 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:10:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27254; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:09:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:59:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26417; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:59:10 -0600 Received: from ahab.ccrprocess.net ([206.96.41.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26413 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:59:09 -0600 From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] OSX & PDF, was PDF as a graphic format X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:55:28 -0800 X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Trend MailScan on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/25/2001 09:54:42 AM, MIME-CD complete at 01/25/2001 09:54:42 AM, Serialize by Router on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/25/2001 09:55:00 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA26414 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ In regards to MacOS X, how does PDF as the "native display" work? Are icons and such, objects that you can create in postscript? Or is the desktop one big Acrobat document? I don't quite understand how the metaphor works. So is everything on the screen a .ps image and not, like Windows, a bitmap, such as .ico files??? Thanks Robert Lira robert_lira@balboainsurance.com |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| | | Jan Steinman | | | | |         To: | | | Sent by: | pdf@lists.pdfzone.com| | | owner-pdf@lists.pdfzo|         cc: | | | ne.com |         Subject: | | | | RE: [PDF] PDF as a | | | 01/25/2001 09:39 AM | graphic format | | | Please respond to pdf| | | | | | |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This may be a non-sequitur, but I haven't seen it mentioned yet. PDF is the native display model for MacOS X. This is only going to increase its viability and use as a graphics format, as well as accelerate the development of third-party tools. -- : Jan Steinman : Bytesmiths : 19280 Rydman Court, West Linn, OR 97068, 503.635.3229 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 18:14:00-GMT,2030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12652 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:13:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27625; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:13:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:05:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26940; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:05:43 -0600 Received: from mail.gai-global.com (mail.gai-global.com [63.66.130.67]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26935 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:05:38 -0600 Received: from CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM (unverified) by mail.gai-global.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:58:54 -0500 Received: by CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 852569DF.0062C597 ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:58:51 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AFG From: "Bob Riddle" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: <852569DF.0062C3FD.00@CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:56:19 -0500 Subject: Re: re[2]: [PDF] Re: why PDF? 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Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 18:15:04-GMT,3249;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12703 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:15:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27723; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:14:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:06:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27025; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:06:52 -0600 Received: from fep2.excitehome.net (fep2.excitehome.net [24.0.26.113]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27020 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:06:51 -0600 Received: from SANDVIKPCL2 ([24.0.13.170]) by fep2.excitehome.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010125180650.PIVV23519.fep2.excitehome.net@SANDVIKPCL2> for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:06:50 -0800 From: "Kent Sandvik" To: Subject: [PDF] Shrinking of text after PDF? Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:10:45 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi, we are testing out some material that are distilled from Postscript to PDF format, and the layout person claims that the final printed output is about 10% smaller than if printing the Postscript files directly, this includes the font sizes and the layout of the page. Is this a normal thing, does PDF somehow adjust the pages with some margins and additional padding? Or should we look into printer driver issues, i.e. the printer driver is doing something to the printed page to make it smaller? Any ideas, clues, similar experiences? FYI, these are original WordPerfect/DOS files printed to file using the Apple LaserWriter Print Driver (WP 6.0a), and then distilled. The reason I have to do this is that it contains Tibetan fonts that are in Postscript format and I can't change the layout just now so I have to keep it in WP format. The fonts are Truetype 1 fonts, Palatino and TCC (Tibetan Computer Company). I'm using the latest Distiller, 4.0.5, Windows, with the default screenoptimized settings, but I changed the graphics settings for better resolution of images (less optimization). Thx for any answers, Kent Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 18:21:17-GMT,3237;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12987 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:21:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28687; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:20:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:11:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27499; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:11:43 -0600 Received: from axion.net (popper-3.vancouver.ipapp.com [216.152.192.200]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA27493 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:11:42 -0600 Received: from axion.net ([207.102.191.66]) by popper-3.vancouver.ipapp.com ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:11:12 -0800 Message-ID: <3A706C1E.C0480668@axion.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:10:39 -0800 From: Angus Weller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Browser Locks Up References: <000501c086f1$47f2aae0$8fc859cf@oemcomputer> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------78993C7548AB9955412C04CF" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------78993C7548AB9955412C04CF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Could your problem be the good old "white screen of death". If it is. The problem is a server side issue—ie. the server isn't byte serving. It means the user has to wait for the whole file to download before they can effectively move through the file. It can be hard to get a Internet Provider to activate the byte serving option. I've been told that it is a default option. It maybe but if it is they seem to disable it. There were many comments on the issue a couple of years ago. Angus --------------78993C7548AB9955412C04CF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="weller.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Angus Weller Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="weller.vcf" begin:vcard n:Weller;Angus tel;work:(250)729-7292 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.mapmatrix.com org:Weller Cartographic Services Ltd. adr:;;2960 Cosgrove Crescent;Nanaimo;British Columbia;V9S 3P8;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:weller@axion.net title:President note:webstores at: travel-media.com and mapmatrix.com x-mozilla-cpt:;1 fn:Angus Weller end:vcard --------------78993C7548AB9955412C04CF-- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 18:28:04-GMT,2944;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13223 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:28:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29736; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:27:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:18:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28330; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:18:22 -0600 Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.40.143]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28324 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:18:20 -0600 Received: from [151.203.64.98] (adsl-151-203-64-98.bostma.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.203.64.98]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24724 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:18:23 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:18:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF -> Framemaker From: Peter Manuelian To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <852569DF.00573570.00@CIN2_DG02.GREATAMINS.COM> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I'm not the one who posed the original question, but I WOULD like to speak up for FrameMaker. I produce academic publications, and I find no other program can handle all the academic apparatus that goes along with complex document production. I'm just finishing up a book in InDesign, and I love it, but it doesn't even have tables, so for the books with footnotes, cross-references, chapter headings and sub-headings, and multiple language references, etc., FrameMaker can't be beat in my opinion. Cheers, Peter > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > What does framemaker do for you? What is it's use? Just curious? > > Bob Riddle > > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 18:30:00-GMT,4740;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13327 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:29:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29962; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:29:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:20:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28663; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:20:12 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28655 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:20:10 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA03540 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10191; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G7QDL800.KSK; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:19:56 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010125101046.027efa28@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:19:55 -0800 To: Robert_Lira@balboainsurance.com From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Dov's reply, was Why are Illustrator 8/9 & Acro4 bad fits? Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dov Isaacs currently writes: Safe, simple/minor editing of PDF files can be accomplished via the following: (1) The text and graphics touch-up tools in Acrobat. In the case of graphics, Acrobat will invoke Illustrator for vector objects and Photoshop for image objects. Upon completion of such edits, the modified objects are returned into the PDF file. The text touch-up tool is best for single character replacements or font/font style changes. (2) Acrobat Plugin -- Quite a Box of Tricks from Quite Software. (3) Acrobat Plugin -- PitStop from Enfocus (plus some other plugin products). Both (2) and (3) above are absolute "musts" for anyone who takes PDF seriously, providing alls sorts of safe tweaks, adjustments, and edits. (4) Other plugins form other sources. When you open a PDF file in Illustrator 9, you chose a page. That page is read into Illustrator 9 which translates the PDF into Illustrator's own object types, discarding objects and properties for which it has no use. When you "save" the file, the editing page replaces the original page. The non-edited pages remain the same. But the edited page may have lost significant content and prepress information. - Dov At 1/25/2001 08:42 AM, Robert_Lira@balboainsurance.com wrote: >Dov Isaacs previously wrote: >>> >(2) Contrary to popular belief, Illustrator (including 9) is NOT a >general purpose PDF editor. There are numerous PDF constructs that >do not directly translate into Illustrator objects. Illustrator 9 >can only fully OPEN and interpret PDF files generated by Illustrator 9 >and not otherwise "processed" and/or modified elsewhere. Any other PDF >files are effectively IMPORTED with objects that do not match Illustrator >object types either being translated into similar Illustrator object types >or in some cases, dropped. Thus, you should never use Illustrator as a >touch-up tool for PDF files, especially for those destined for press. ><< > >I've used Ai9 with good results for doing "minor" editing. Is there a >"better" tool for >doing "touch up" than Ai? > >Thanks! >|------------------------------------+------------------------------------| >| | Robert Lira | Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 18:33:05-GMT,5296;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13422 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:33:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30688; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:32:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:23:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29154; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:23:18 -0600 Received: from mail.Firstdatacorp.COM (mail.firstdatacorp.com [204.124.84.42]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29144 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:23:14 -0600 From: Jeanie.Shoemaker@firstdatacorp.com Received: (from smtp@localhost) by mail.Firstdatacorp.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21201 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:10:48 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.firstdatacorp.com: smtp set sender to using -f Received: from () by mail via smap (V2.1) id xma021028; Thu, 25 Jan 01 18:10:15 GMT Subject: Re: [PDF] Browser Locks Up To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3 March 21, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:22:04 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SRVMTA1/FDR/FDC(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 01/25/2001 12:22:31 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Installing Reader 4.05c automatically installs the Active X plugin needed to properly display PDF files in Internet Explorer. We insist that our users install Reader 4.05c to save them the frustration you are experiencing. ...and yes, it is a problem for many IE users. Installing Reader 4.05c is an easy solution. Jeanie "Jim Cullen" net> cc: Sent by: Subject: [PDF] Browser Locks Up owner-pdf@lists.p dfzone.com 01/25/2001 11:07 AM Please respond to pdf The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ One of my clients pointed out that his IE browser (5.5) locks up and/or presents a blank page when going to the second page of a PDF. I had the same problem in the past but chalked it up to my slow connection and didn't pay much attention. The Adobe web site told me to Enable the options labeled "Download unsigned ActiveX controls" and "Initialize and script ActiveX Controls not marked as safe." This fixed the problem on my machine and speed up the file transfer time. Has anyone heard of a solution on the horizon to this problem? Because these settings are changes from the default settings (with the verious MS security upgrades), it must be a problem for a lot of other IE users. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 18:35:52-GMT,4051;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13560 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:35:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30882; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:33:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:25:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29326; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:25:00 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29321 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:24:58 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA28561 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:28:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06591; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G7QDT700.PMZ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:24:43 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010125102106.027efa28@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:24:43 -0800 To: "Kent Sandvik" From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Shrinking of text after PDF? Cc: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This "shrinkage" problem is normally the result of having checked the "fit to page" option which shrinks the page to fit within the printable margins of the page. This occurs even when it doesn't look like there is any interference between the objects on the page and the printer's margins. Uncheck this option and Acrobat prints unconditionally at 100%. - Dov At 1/25/2001 10:10 AM, Kent Sandvik wrote: >Hi, we are testing out some material that are distilled from Postscript to >PDF format, and the layout person claims that the final printed output is >about 10% smaller than if printing the Postscript files directly, this >includes the font sizes and the layout of the page. Is this a normal thing, >does PDF somehow adjust the pages with some margins and additional padding? >Or should we look into printer driver issues, i.e. the printer driver is >doing something to the printed page to make it smaller? Any ideas, clues, >similar experiences? > >FYI, these are original WordPerfect/DOS files printed to file using the >Apple LaserWriter Print Driver (WP 6.0a), and then distilled. The reason I >have to do this is that it contains Tibetan fonts that are in Postscript >format and I can't change the layout just now so I have to keep it in WP >format. The fonts are Truetype 1 fonts, Palatino and TCC (Tibetan Computer >Company). > >I'm using the latest Distiller, 4.0.5, Windows, with the default >screenoptimized settings, but I changed the graphics settings for better >resolution of images (less optimization). > >Thx for any answers, Kent Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 18:46:25-GMT,3987;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13998 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:46:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32244; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:44:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:35:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31204; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:35:24 -0600 Received: from acorn.ggn.net (qmailr@acorn.ggn.net [198.207.193.1]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA31173 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:35:11 -0600 Received: (qmail 10787 invoked from network) by acorn.ggn.net; 25 Jan 2001 18:35:04 -0000 Received: from xcdfdc621.ip.ggn.net (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (205.253.198.33) by ns2.ggn.net with SMTP; 25 Jan 2001 18:35:04 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:35:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Shrinking of text after PDF? From: Sheila Donnelly To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Turn off "fit to page" when printing Have a Great Day! Sheila Donnelly Precise Corporate Printing, Inc. 75 Front Street, Brooklyn, NY 11201 718-797-0900 or 800-392-2496 (Outside NYC) x134 718-797-9637 Fax sheila.donnelly@precisecorp.com > From: "Kent Sandvik" > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:10:45 -0800 > To: > Subject: [PDF] Shrinking of text after PDF? > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi, we are testing out some material that are distilled from Postscript to > PDF format, and the layout person claims that the final printed output is > about 10% smaller than if printing the Postscript files directly, this > includes the font sizes and the layout of the page. Is this a normal thing, > does PDF somehow adjust the pages with some margins and additional padding? > Or should we look into printer driver issues, i.e. the printer driver is > doing something to the printed page to make it smaller? Any ideas, clues, > similar experiences? > > FYI, these are original WordPerfect/DOS files printed to file using the > Apple LaserWriter Print Driver (WP 6.0a), and then distilled. The reason I > have to do this is that it contains Tibetan fonts that are in Postscript > format and I can't change the layout just now so I have to keep it in WP > format. The fonts are Truetype 1 fonts, Palatino and TCC (Tibetan Computer > Company). > > I'm using the latest Distiller, 4.0.5, Windows, with the default > screenoptimized settings, but I changed the graphics settings for better > resolution of images (less optimization). > > Thx for any answers, Kent > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 19:39:17-GMT,2966;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15680 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:39:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03121; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:38:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:27:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02371; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:27:23 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02363 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:27:20 -0600 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 174730 via TCP with SMTP; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:28:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:23:02 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] OSX & PDF, was PDF as a graphic format Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 9:55 AM -0800 1/25/01, Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com wrote: >In regards to MacOS X, how does PDF as the "native display" work? It means that the underlying graphic architecture draws/paints in the same way that PDF/Postscript do. The concepts of vector objects (including bezier curves), fonts/text, bitmap images, etc. are all the same and expressed the same. It also means that PDF is the new "metafile format" for Mac OS X, thereby replacing PICT both on disk and on the clipboard/scrap. >Are icons and such, objects that you can create in postscript? We're talking PDF here - NOT Postscript! But no, icons are not PDF files (don't ask me why, that would have made sense ;). Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 19:39:17-GMT,2750;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15681 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:39:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03120; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:38:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:27:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02372; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:27:23 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02366 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:27:21 -0600 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 174707 via TCP with SMTP; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:27:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200101251544.JAA13363@everglades.binc.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:20:03 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: [PDF] Re: Mac OS X and PDF (was PDF as a graphic format) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 9:39 AM -0800 1/25/01, Jan Steinman wrote: >PDF is the native display model for MacOS X. True... >This is only going to increase its viability and use as a graphics >format, as well as accelerate the development of third-party tools. > Maybe, but perhaps not in the ways that we'd like... You might want to read my presentation from MacWorld entitled "Mac OS X and PDF - the REAL story". It can be found at . Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 21:35:17-GMT,5363;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19078 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:35:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10290; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:34:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:25:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09637; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:25:33 -0600 Received: from ahab.ccrprocess.net ([206.96.41.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09609 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:25:27 -0600 From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Framemaker (Peter M), was PDF -> Framemaker X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:21:52 -0800 X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Trend MailScan on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/25/2001 01:21:07 PM, MIME-CD complete at 01/25/2001 01:21:07 PM, Serialize by Router on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/25/2001 01:21:18 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA09631 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Peter, I've never worked with Frame myself, but have used Ventura (Xerox ver. 4, Corel 7,8) and also InDesign 1.0. I agree the lack of table tool in Indy made it a pain, but Ventura 8 was pretty powerful and complete out of the box, unlike Quark which you had to spend $$ to even begin to approach 10% of what Ventura could do. Its too bad that InDesign had this "plug-in" mentality as well for basic stuff like tables and that Corel did not market Ventura's strengths further in this area to gain market share.... I wish the InDesign product development team would look at Ventura's features and implement a lot of that in upcoming versions, but my experience has been w/ 1.0, haven't tried the latest yet... For a comparison between Frame, PM, Quark and Ventura check this out: http://www.coreluser.com/html/vent_table.html |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| | | Robert | | | robert_lira@balboainsurance.com | |------------------------------------+------------------------------------| |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| | | Peter Manuelian | | | | |         To: | | | Sent by: | | | | ne.com |         cc: | | | |         Subject: | | | 01/25/2001 10:18 AM | Re: [PDF] PDF -> | | | Please respond to pdf| Framemaker | | | | | |------------------------+------------------------+------------------------| The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I'm not the one who posed the original question, but I WOULD like to speak up for FrameMaker. I produce academic publications, and I find no other program can handle all the academic apparatus that goes along with complex document production. I'm just finishing up a book in InDesign, and I love it, but it doesn't even have tables, so for the books with footnotes, cross-references, chapter headings and sub-headings, and multiple language references, etc., FrameMaker can't be beat in my opinion. Cheers, Peter > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > What does framemaker do for you?  What is it's use?  Just curious? > > Bob Riddle > > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Jan-2001 22:00:53-GMT,4725;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19868 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:00:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12148; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:59:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:52:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11777; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:52:34 -0600 Received: from ns3.armintl.com (root@ns3.armintl.com [38.219.85.11]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11770 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:52:32 -0600 Received: from pc35 (aii2nat197.armintl.com [38.254.233.197]) by ns3.armintl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA32481 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:52:26 -0500 From: "Pam Blasius" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Browser Locks Up Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:52:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: High Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We are using 4.05c and are still experiencing the problem with blank pages. Pam Blasius Marketing WebMaster Armstrong International, Inc. 816 Maple Street Three Rivers, MI 49093 USA Phone: (616) 279-3381 Fax: (616) 273-9057 pamb@armstrong-intl.com www.armstrong-intl.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Jeanie.Shoemaker@firstdatacorp.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:22 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Browser Locks Up The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Installing Reader 4.05c automatically installs the Active X plugin needed to properly display PDF files in Internet Explorer. We insist that our users install Reader 4.05c to save them the frustration you are experiencing. ...and yes, it is a problem for many IE users. Installing Reader 4.05c is an easy solution. Jeanie "Jim Cullen" net> cc: Sent by: Subject: [PDF] Browser Locks Up owner-pdf@lists.p dfzone.com 01/25/2001 11:07 AM Please respond to pdf The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ One of my clients pointed out that his IE browser (5.5) locks up and/or presents a blank page when going to the second page of a PDF. I had the same problem in the past but chalked it up to my slow connection and didn't pay much attention. The Adobe web site told me to Enable the options labeled "Download unsigned ActiveX controls" and "Initialize and script ActiveX Controls not marked as safe." This fixed the problem on my machine and speed up the file transfer time. Has anyone heard of a solution on the horizon to this problem? Because these settings are changes from the default settings (with the verious MS security upgrades), it must be a problem for a lot of other IE users. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Jan-2001 5:07:05-GMT,3344;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00412 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:07:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA31223; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:05:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:54:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA30547; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:54:50 -0600 Received: from unknown-230-101.pilot.net (unknown-230-101.pilot.net [206.98.230.101]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA30543 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:54:49 -0600 Received: from unknown-239-164.pilot.net (unknown-239-164.pilot.net [206.189.239.164]) by unknown-230-101.pilot.net with ESMTP id XAA19054 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:54:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from uswaumsxb4medge.med.ge.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-239-164.pilot.net with ESMTP id XAA04815 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:54:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by USWAUMSXB4MEDGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:54:48 -0600 Received: from jptkymsxbhmedge.med.ge.com (gemsa.med.ge.com [3.28.122.32]) by uswaumsxbhmedge.med.ge.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id D470LFF5; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:54:45 -0600 Received: by localhost with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:53:41 +0900 Message-ID: <95D655C3D17AD31192560090274D930E018FECA2@JPTKYMSX5MEDGE> From: "HIWATASHI, HELIO (MED,ID TKY JP )" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF -> Framemaker Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:53:39 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks all. I am an Interleaf user and we distribute into PDFs to our clients. We intend to migrate our resources to Framemaker. Testing Interleaf->Framemaker filter of Framemaker showed us that we have lots of corrections to do, like redefining paragraphs, templates, illustrations, etc. My original question was if anyone has experienced file conversions from, for example, pdf to Framemaker other source to Framemaker. Thanks and sorry for disturbing all with this peculiar question. Helio -----Original Message----- From: Bob Riddle [mailto:briddle@gaic.com] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:50 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF -> Framemaker What does framemaker do for you? What is it's use? Just curious? Bob Riddle Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Jan-2001 8:51:14-GMT,2525;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04789 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 01:51:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07515; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 02:50:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 02:41:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07102; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 02:41:10 -0600 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07094 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 02:41:09 -0600 Received: from lpiper.demon.co.uk ([158.152.165.240] helo=postle.net) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14M4RN-000IxB-0K for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:41:05 +0000 Message-ID: <3A7137EB.36434373@postle.net> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:40:11 +0000 From: Denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb]C-NSCPCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Acrobat on Win 2000 References: <200101241355.HAA03023@everglades.binc.net> <3A6FC87D.A5D5D66D@netvision.net.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Shlomo Ramon wrote: > Thanks to all who gave advice, especially Dov - it worked (logon as administrator on Win 2000 to install distiller together with Acro 4.xx.). That's the good news to all others that had a similar problem. Shlomo, Good to hear that you were able to install Distiller printer. When I got back to my W2000 machine I logged on as administrator and re-made the installation but no Distiller printer. So there must be some other parameter but what? Anybody have any further ideas? Denis Postle Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Jan-2001 9:26:59-GMT,2251;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05428 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 02:26:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09663; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 03:25:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 03:18:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09092; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 03:18:47 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09087 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 03:18:45 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA02853 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:18:48 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF -> Framemaker Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:18:44 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01c08778$fbd8f960$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <95D655C3D17AD31192560090274D930E018FEC99@JPTKYMSX5MEDGE> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Which source is better to migrate to Framemaker: rtf, pdf or ps? RTF, by a long, long way. When you place PDF in FrameMaker it isn't editable; I can't really see why you would do this. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Jan-2001 16:49:48-GMT,7577;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14665 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:49:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13515; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:49:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:38:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10489; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:38:55 -0600 Message-ID: <3A71A92D.D51B9293@utm.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:43:25 -0800 From: Jim Merante Organization: Utility Trailer Mfg. Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDFdev] Newbie to Java Script (need to do math on PDF form) References: <20010125153020.2573d267.in@smtp.sevenww.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ Thnaks you guys for helping on the math. It is such a basic need that I would've been surprised if it was really difficult. (Apparently if was difficult enough that I didn't know how from playing with the program!) But really its not a big deal to do. Thanks! Jim Norm Leonard wrote: > > PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > _____________________________________________________________ > > A simple way to calculate the sum of 2 or more fields that does not even > use JS is: > > Create all of the entry fields that you need the sum of. Then create the > actual field that will calculate the sum. In this final sum field, select > the proper category from the Format tab, in your case this would be the > Number category, then select the currency option. Under the Calculate tab, > select the second choice down (Value is the [sum(+)] of the following > fields. Select the fields that you need the sum of . . . and each time an entry > is made to one of these fields (that is, when that field loses focus), > the sum of all the assigned fields is calculated and displayed in the final > sum field. > > If it has to be done using JS. Place the following script into the custom > script (just below the one we just used, under the Calculate tab). The > nice thing about this script is that it will work the same for 2 fields or > 200 fields. > > //Name your entry fields "Field.0", "Field.1", "Field.2", etc, and your > final sum field "FinalSum"; > > //find the entry fields > var a=getField("Field"); > //get the total amount of Fields in the Field Array > var a2=a.getArray(); > var Total=0; > //create a for loop that runs through all the fields, no matter how many > there are > for (var i=0;i //go through each field, collecting it's value and adding it to > Total > Total+=getField("Field."+i).value; > } > //finally transfer the value of Total to the value of the FinalSum field > getField("FinalSum").value=Total; > > Norman J. Leonard > Technical Solutions Developer > Acrobat Certified Expert > Seven Worldwide, Inc. > 233 N. Michigan Avenue > Chicago, IL 60601-5516 > Tel: 312-616-8326 > nleonard@sevenww.com > > Gregory_Griffiths wrote: > > > >PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > >_____________________________________________________________ > > > >On you total field, you can add the following as a Custom Calculation > >script: > > > >// assign each of the form fields and the total to JS Objects > >var a=this.getField("Field1"); > >var b=this.getField("Field2"); > >var c=this.getField("Field3"); > >var tot=this.getField("TOTAL"); > > > >// update the total > >tot.value=a.value + b.value + c.value; > > > >You may have to check the syntax on the final line as I'm not > >completely sure about it, though the concept is okay. > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: jmerante@utm.com [mailto:jmerante@utm.com] > >> Sent: 25 January 2001 16:27 > >> To: jmerante@utm.com; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > >> Subject: [PDFdev] Newbie to Java Script (need to do math on PDF form) > >> > >> > >> > >> PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > >> _____________________________________________________________ > >> > >> **Cross posted to pdf@lists and pdfdev@lists** > >> > >> I am trying to create a form that will automatically > >> total some simple arithmetic for some currency. > >> > >> Can somebody post something or point me in the right > >> direction for SIMPLE JavaScript I can put behind some > >> controls on an Acrobat page? > >> > >> -- > >> Jim Merante > >> Utility Trailer Mfg. > >> Dealer Information Systems Administrator > >> 626-854-7341 > >> jmerante@utm.com > >> > >> Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -------------- > >> > > > > > >Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > >RFC822 header > >----------------------------------- > > > >From owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Thu Jan 25 13:13:22 2001 > >Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from localhost > > (router,QMProSrv V2.7); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:13:22 -0600 > >Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from everglades.binc.net > > (208.155.48.8::mail daemon; unverified,QMProSrv V2.7); Thu, 25 Jan > 2001 > >13:13:21 -0600 > >Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01513; > > Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:11:34 -0600 > >Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 > >13:06:05 -0600 > >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01029; > > Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:06:03 -0600 > >From: Gregory_Griffiths@cargill.com > >X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 > >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:05:50 +0000 > >Message-Id: > >Subject: RE: [PDFdev] Newbie to Java Script (need to do math on PDF > form) > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >TO: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" > > ;Creation-Date="Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:05:49 +0000" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > >Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > >X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > >X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html > >X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com > > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Jan-2001 16:51:10-GMT,7903;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14688 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:51:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13522; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:49:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:39:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10505; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:38:56 -0600 Received: from prserv.net (out2.prserv.net [32.97.166.32]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10485; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:38:54 -0600 Received: from utm.com ([32.97.239.30]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2001012616384820203e885je>; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:38:48 +0000 Message-ID: <3A71A92D.D51B9293@utm.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:43:25 -0800 From: Jim Merante Organization: Utility Trailer Mfg. Co. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: [PDFdev] Newbie to Java Script (need to do math on PDF form) References: <20010125153020.2573d267.in@smtp.sevenww.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thnaks you guys for helping on the math. It is such a basic need that I would've been surprised if it was really difficult. (Apparently if was difficult enough that I didn't know how from playing with the program!) But really its not a big deal to do. Thanks! Jim Norm Leonard wrote: > > PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > _____________________________________________________________ > > A simple way to calculate the sum of 2 or more fields that does not even > use JS is: > > Create all of the entry fields that you need the sum of. Then create the > actual field that will calculate the sum. In this final sum field, select > the proper category from the Format tab, in your case this would be the > Number category, then select the currency option. Under the Calculate tab, > select the second choice down (Value is the [sum(+)] of the following > fields. Select the fields that you need the sum of . . . and each time an entry > is made to one of these fields (that is, when that field loses focus), > the sum of all the assigned fields is calculated and displayed in the final > sum field. > > If it has to be done using JS. Place the following script into the custom > script (just below the one we just used, under the Calculate tab). The > nice thing about this script is that it will work the same for 2 fields or > 200 fields. > > //Name your entry fields "Field.0", "Field.1", "Field.2", etc, and your > final sum field "FinalSum"; > > //find the entry fields > var a=getField("Field"); > //get the total amount of Fields in the Field Array > var a2=a.getArray(); > var Total=0; > //create a for loop that runs through all the fields, no matter how many > there are > for (var i=0;i //go through each field, collecting it's value and adding it to > Total > Total+=getField("Field."+i).value; > } > //finally transfer the value of Total to the value of the FinalSum field > getField("FinalSum").value=Total; > > Norman J. Leonard > Technical Solutions Developer > Acrobat Certified Expert > Seven Worldwide, Inc. > 233 N. Michigan Avenue > Chicago, IL 60601-5516 > Tel: 312-616-8326 > nleonard@sevenww.com > > Gregory_Griffiths wrote: > > > >PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > >_____________________________________________________________ > > > >On you total field, you can add the following as a Custom Calculation > >script: > > > >// assign each of the form fields and the total to JS Objects > >var a=this.getField("Field1"); > >var b=this.getField("Field2"); > >var c=this.getField("Field3"); > >var tot=this.getField("TOTAL"); > > > >// update the total > >tot.value=a.value + b.value + c.value; > > > >You may have to check the syntax on the final line as I'm not > >completely sure about it, though the concept is okay. > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: jmerante@utm.com [mailto:jmerante@utm.com] > >> Sent: 25 January 2001 16:27 > >> To: jmerante@utm.com; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > >> Subject: [PDFdev] Newbie to Java Script (need to do math on PDF form) > >> > >> > >> > >> PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > >> _____________________________________________________________ > >> > >> **Cross posted to pdf@lists and pdfdev@lists** > >> > >> I am trying to create a form that will automatically > >> total some simple arithmetic for some currency. > >> > >> Can somebody post something or point me in the right > >> direction for SIMPLE JavaScript I can put behind some > >> controls on an Acrobat page? > >> > >> -- > >> Jim Merante > >> Utility Trailer Mfg. > >> Dealer Information Systems Administrator > >> 626-854-7341 > >> jmerante@utm.com > >> > >> Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -------------- > >> > > > > > >Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > >RFC822 header > >----------------------------------- > > > >From owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Thu Jan 25 13:13:22 2001 > >Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from localhost > > (router,QMProSrv V2.7); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:13:22 -0600 > >Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from everglades.binc.net > > (208.155.48.8::mail daemon; unverified,QMProSrv V2.7); Thu, 25 Jan > 2001 > >13:13:21 -0600 > >Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01513; > > Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:11:34 -0600 > >Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Jan 2001 > >13:06:05 -0600 > >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01029; > > Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:06:03 -0600 > >From: Gregory_Griffiths@cargill.com > >X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 > >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:05:50 +0000 > >Message-Id: > >Subject: RE: [PDFdev] Newbie to Java Script (need to do math on PDF > form) > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >TO: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" > > ;Creation-Date="Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:05:49 +0000" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > >Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > >X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > >X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html > >X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com > > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Jan-2001 19:23:42-GMT,2693;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19442 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:23:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25453; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:23:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:15:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24958; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:15:17 -0600 Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24937 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:15:12 -0600 Received: from [24.7.137.62] by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010126191511.IUDI18735.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[24.7.137.62]> for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:15:11 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jan.steinman@mail.bytesmiths.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200101261638.KAA10541@everglades.binc.net> References: <200101261638.KAA10541@everglades.binc.net> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:15:10 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jan Steinman Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Mac OS X and PDF (was PDF as a graphic format) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ >Subject: [PDF] Re: Mac OS X and PDF (was PDF as a graphic format) > > You might want to read my presentation from MacWorld entitled >"Mac OS X and PDF - the REAL story". It can be found at >. I'd love to, but it's 404 here, and access to the root director is blocked... How about testing your links before posting? :-) (Apologies in advance if you DID test it, and it is unavailable for some other reason...) -- : Jan Steinman : Bytesmiths : 19280 Rydman Court, West Linn, OR 97068, 503.635.3229 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Jan-2001 23:52:05-GMT,4109;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26883 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:52:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07877; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:51:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:44:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07216; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:43:59 -0600 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07210; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:43:58 -0600 Received: from [209.86.216.44] (user-38ldm1c.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.216.44]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA04028; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:43:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101262343.SAA04028@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: OSX & PDF, was PDF as a graphic format Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:41:57 -0400 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ on 1/26/01 12:38 PM, pdf-digest wrote; >In regards to MacOS X, how does PDF as the "native display" work? >Are icons and such, objects that you can create in postscript? >Or is the desktop one big Acrobat document? >I don't quite understand how the metaphor works. >So is everything on the screen a .ps image and not, like Windows, >a bitmap, such as .ico files??? When you copy and paste objects between like documents (like from one Quark document to another Quark document, or one Illustrator document to another) the application developer uses tools that the Macintosh OS makes available to it, and this tool translates the objects into QuickDraw objects, so they can be either stored for that copy paste moment in the clip board, or longer in the Apple Scrap book. In OSX, QuickDraw has been replase with PDF - this is Quartz - this "tarnslation", like QuickDraw, assumes the clipboard or Scrapbook will deliver the objects back to the applications native file format - today, you can't "save" the clipboard or scrapbook objects to a file, nor does this appear to be the case in OSX. Once applications are written to fuly take advantage of Quartz, perhaps we might even the technology as an enabler to copy from one application and paste into another (like, copy from Quark and paste into Illustrator.. just a random thought here, not any "insider information"... OSX uses Display PostScript - like Acrobat is a "display PDF" engine, which basically RIPS the PDF to display it (well, actually, this is "more true" in the case of Adobe InProduction in the separation preview tool, where overprints are "applied") - Quartz is basically like a very very PDF display engine, so, while applications will continue (in Classic mode) to render objects themselves, again, perhaps, application developers (certainly Adobe) deliver objects in PDF to display, taking advantage of Quartz - again, this in my "thoughts" - i am no engineer or application developer...just a marketing dweeb. Michael Jahn Apogee Create Product Manager Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium http://www.agfa.com/create/ http://www.jahn.org/ 011 32 3 444 3921 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Jan-2001 23:52:05-GMT,2278;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26882 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:52:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07875; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:51:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:44:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07254; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:44:05 -0600 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07226; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:44:00 -0600 Received: from [209.86.216.44] (user-38ldm1c.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.216.44]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA11569; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:43:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101262343.SAA11569@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: OSX Icons Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:42:00 -0400 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ on 1/26/01 12:38 PM, pdf-digest wrote; >>Are icons and such, objects that you can create in postscript? > > We're talking PDF here - NOT Postscript! But no, icons are >not PDF files (don't ask me why, that would have made sense ;). thanks G-D no, the icons are not PDF - they are simple raster files - who needs objects that need to be rendered when a simple image will do? Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Jan-2001 23:52:26-GMT,2835;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26902 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:52:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07876; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:51:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:44:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07243; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:44:03 -0600 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07215; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:43:59 -0600 Received: from [209.86.216.44] (user-38ldm1c.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.216.44]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07856; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:43:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101262343.SAA07856@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: shrinking PDF files Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:41:59 -0400 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ on 1/26/01 12:38 PM, pdf-digest wrote; >Hi, we are testing out some material that are distilled from Postscript to >PDF format, and the layout person claims that the final printed output is >about 10% smaller than if printing the Postscript files directly, this >includes the font sizes and the layout of the page. Is this a normal thing, >does PDF somehow adjust the pages with some margins and additional padding? If they are printing from Acrobat (which is my guess) - In the Print Dialog box, there are optios - the default display is "general" (near the upper left hand corner of the Print Dialog box) - click on it, and select Acrobat 4 - note that in the default setting, Shrink to fit is ON - turn this off. this will probably fix your problem. Michael Jahn Apogee Create Product Manager Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium http://www.agfa.com/create/ http://www.jahn.org/ 011 32 3 444 3921 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Jan-2001 19:50:22-GMT,2905;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20174 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:50:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27161; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:49:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:42:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26823; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:42:33 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26819 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:42:31 -0600 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 179125 via TCP with SMTP; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:42:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200101261638.KAA10541@everglades.binc.net> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:38:53 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Mac OS X and PDF (was PDF as a graphic format) Cc: Jan@Bytesmiths.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 11:15 AM -0800 1/26/01, Jan Steinman wrote: >> You might want to read my presentation from MacWorld entitled >>"Mac OS X and PDF - the REAL story". It can be found at >>. > >I'd love to, but it's 404 here, and access to the root director is blocked... You did note that it's an FTP link, and not an HTTP one, right?? 404 implies that you tried to access it via HTTP rather than FTP, in which case I am SURE you can't get to it since that machine (as the name of the machine might imply) doesn't run an HTTP server, it runs an FTP server... Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Jan-2001 0:38:45-GMT,2665;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28127 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:38:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10965; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:38:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:31:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10523; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:31:41 -0600 Received: from mail2.iserv.net (mail2.iserv.net [204.177.184.152]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10519 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:31:40 -0600 Received: from [204.157.28.132] (tnt2-28-132.iserv.net [204.157.28.132]) by mail2.iserv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18715 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:31:42 -0500 X-Envelope-To: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:34:41 -0500 Subject: [PDF] True Type to Type 1 via Distiller? From: kk To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200101262343.SAA11569@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ The word from my printers has always been, and remains, don't use TT fonts in files, only use T1. I've had two jobs recently that call for fonts only available as TT. When I distill to PDF, they come through just fine. When I check Font info in Acrobat, it reports them as being Type 1 fonts. I asked the head of Electronic PrePress at one of these printers and they said Distiller does convert the font format, or at least does something to make their equipment image properly. But they still advise using Type 1 in the first place. Does submitting files to printers in PDF format mean there's no longer a reason to avoid True Type? What's the technical explanation? --KK Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Jan-2001 0:39:15-GMT,3627;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28135 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:39:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11026; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:39:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:32:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10554; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:32:25 -0600 Received: from proxy.surf.net.au (ip-69-7.surf.net.au [203.87.69.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10550; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:32:21 -0600 Received: from [203.16.165.79] (ppp79.surf.net.au [203.16.165.79]) by proxy.surf.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA26728; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:36:37 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gheard@mail.surf.net.au Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200101262343.SAA07856@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> References: <200101262343.SAA07856@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:32:01 +1100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, From: Geoffrey Heard Subject: [PDF] Re: shrinking PDF files Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 6:41 PM -0400 26/1/01, mikejahn wrote: >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com >__________________________________________________________________ > >on 1/26/01 12:38 PM, pdf-digest wrote; > >>Hi, we are testing out some material that are distilled from Postscript to >>PDF format, and the layout person claims that the final printed output is >>about 10% smaller than if printing the Postscript files directly, this >>includes the font sizes and the layout of the page. Is this a normal thing, >>does PDF somehow adjust the pages with some margins and additional padding? > >If they are printing from Acrobat (which is my guess) - In the Print >Dialog box, there are optios - the default display is "general" (near the >upper left hand corner of the Print Dialog box) - click on it, and select >Acrobat 4 - note that in the default setting, Shrink to fit is ON - turn >this off. A great trap. It would appear that when Acrobat "fits to page", it fits the entire page, edge-to-edge, as it is set up within Acrobat into the PRINTABLE AREA of the page you will get from your printer. So, e.g., my Laser has a non-printing margin of about 6mm around the edges of the A4 sheet. In brochures, for example, I typically work with an 8mm margin to stay safely within this. But when Acrobat prints with "fit to page" checked, it gives me about a 14mm margin. This option would be okay except that it appears to be set as the default. Heaven knows how many times I have been caught! Best regards Geoff MarketNOW with Geoffrey Heard Smart ideas NOW in Marketing - PR - Advertising Tel: (03) 9583 9788 Email: gheard@surf.net.au Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Jan-2001 0:28:39-GMT,3702;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23846 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:28:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32431; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:28:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:17:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31718; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:16:58 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA31704; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:16:56 -0600 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 181469 via TCP with SMTP; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:18:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200101262343.SAA04028@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> References: <200101262343.SAA04028@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:15:11 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: [PDF] Re: OSX & PDF, was PDF as a graphic format Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 6:41 PM -0400 1/26/01, mikejahn wrote: >When you copy and paste objects between like documents (like from one >Quark document to another Quark document, or one Illustrator document to >another) the application developer uses tools that the Macintosh OS makes >available to it, and this tool translates the objects into QuickDraw >objects, so they can be either stored for that copy paste moment in the >clip board, or longer in the Apple Scrap book. You have this a bit backwards, Mike. Each application developer has to write their own code to "translate" from their internal representations of objects to Quickdraw/PICT (or whatever other formats you wish to put on the clipboard/scrap). >In OSX, QuickDraw has been replase with PDF - this is Quartz - this >"tarnslation", like QuickDraw, assumes the clipboard or Scrapbook will >deliver the objects back to the applications native file format - today, >you can't "save" the clipboard or scrapbook objects to a file, nor does >this appear to be the case in OSX. In Mac OS X, the application would make calls to Quartz to create a PDF document that they gets placed on the clipboard/scrap, instead of a PICT file. As to saving it to disk, you can indeed save to disk using drag & drop from things like the Clipboard viewer. >OSX uses Display PostScript Wrong! Mac OS X does NOT use Display Postscript! However, you could call Quartz - "Display PDF" if you wanted to. Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Jan-2001 0:28:39-GMT,2618;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23845 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:28:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32432; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:28:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:17:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31706; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:16:57 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA31701; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:16:52 -0600 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 181477 via TCP with SMTP; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:18:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200101262343.SAA11569@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> References: <200101262343.SAA11569@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:15:40 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: [PDF] Re: OSX Icons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 6:42 PM -0400 1/26/01, mikejahn wrote: > > We're talking PDF here - NOT Postscript! But no, icons are >>not PDF files (don't ask me why, that would have made sense ;). > >thanks G-D no, the icons are not PDF - they are simple raster files - who >needs objects that need to be rendered when a simple image will do? > Because raster images (bitmaps) don't scale well, while PDF does ;). LDR -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Jan-2001 16:26:31-GMT,3575;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10127 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:26:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03996; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:26:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:16:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03564; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:16:49 -0600 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03560 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:16:47 -0600 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0SGGcY22358 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:16:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:16:38 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: Subject: [PDF] Re: True Type to Type 1 via Distiller? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Most likely, you have your printer driver set up to make Type 1 fonts from True Type fonts when you print to PS. I know the windows driver has option to spit out either Type 1 fonts or Type 42 fonts (really, a PS wrapper around a True Type font). There are some more advanced options regarding how True Type fonts are output into the PS stream when using later versions of the LaserWriter driver. I think LW 8.6 and greater has these advanced options. Distiller does not convert True Type fonts to Type 1 fonts. However, Acrobat has option in its export PS dialog box that allows all embedded TT fonts to be exported as Type 1 fonts. Tom On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, kk wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > The word from my printers has always been, and remains, don't use TT fonts > in files, only use T1. > > I've had two jobs recently that call for fonts only available as TT. When I > distill to PDF, they come through just fine. When I check Font info in > Acrobat, it reports them as being Type 1 fonts. > > I asked the head of Electronic PrePress at one of these printers and they > said Distiller does convert the font format, or at least does something to > make their equipment image properly. But they still advise using Type 1 in > the first place. > > Does submitting files to printers in PDF format mean there's no longer a > reason to avoid True Type? > > What's the technical explanation? > > --KK > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 6:28:10-GMT,3110;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25216 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:28:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01980; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:27:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:16:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01288; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:16:39 -0600 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01284; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:16:37 -0600 Received: from [165.121.121.216] (user-2iniueo.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.121.216]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA13527; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 01:16:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101290616.BAA13527@barry.mail.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: Mac OS X and PDF (was PDF as a graphic format) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 01:14:34 -0400 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ on 1/27/01 8:16 PM, Jan Steinman wrote; >__________________________________________________________________ > >>Subject: [PDF] Re: Mac OS X and PDF (was PDF as a graphic format) >> >> You might want to read my presentation from MacWorld entitled >>"Mac OS X and PDF - the REAL story". It can be found at >>. > >I'd love to, but it's 404 here, and access to the root director is >blocked... How about testing your links before posting? :-) > >(Apologies in advance if you DID test it, and it is unavailable for >some other reason...) > >- -- >: Jan Steinman >: Bytesmiths >: 19280 Rydman Court, West Linn, OR 97068, 503.635.3229 > >Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > >- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ge wiz Jan, i had no problem whatsoever. you must be doing something wrong. 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I haven't seen any mention of this capability in the Adobe doc. Any help would be appreciated. Janet Bigelow Baltimore Technologies 77 "A" Street Needham, MA 02494 Voice : 781-455-3796 mailto:janet.bigelow@baltimore.com http://www.baltimore.com/ ____________________________________ The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. This message and any attachments have been scanned for viruses. Baltimore Technologies Ltd. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. 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Ambrose" To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Inserting voicemail message in pdf document Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAB01408 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am attempting to save voicemail in a pdf document, which has the header information relating to the voicemail, such as the date and time of the call. The voicemail is originally saved as a .wav file. When I insert the voicemail in the pdf document, and save it, I have no trouble opening it and playing the voicemail, which seems like an ideal way to save voicemail to an electronic file relating to a particular client/matter (as an aside, if anyone has any other thoughts on how to do this easier, I would like to hear them). However, when I send that same pdf as an attachment to a Groupwise email message, and receive the email and open the attachment, I can actually open it and read the header information, but when I click on the inserted box holding the voicemail, I receive an error message, saying that Adobe can't locate the document, and asking whether I want to browse to locate a replacement file. I realize that Groupwise makes a copy of the file, when sending it as an attachment, but why would it lead to this problem - in other words, what does the process of creating a temp file have to do with changing the nature of the inserted voicemail. I should also add that when I send just the .wav file as an attachment, I have no problem opening and playing it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. David Ambrose drambrose@ambroselaw.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 18:17:25-GMT,2533;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11301 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:17:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04051; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:16:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:09:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03358; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:09:35 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03353 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:09:31 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA09798 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:09:43 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting voicemail message in pdf document Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:09:24 -0000 Message-ID: <002301c08a1e$9f1ffea0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I am attempting to save voicemail in a pdf document, which > has the header information relating to the voicemail, such as > the date and time of the call. The voicemail is originally > saved as a .wav file. When I insert the voicemail in the pdf > document, and save it, I have no trouble opening it and > playing the voicemail... HOW do you insert it in the document? If you use the MOVIE tool, they you aren't inserting it, you are only linking to it. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 18:05:32-GMT,3576;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10925 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:05:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02850; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:04:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:57:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02238; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:57:48 -0600 Received: from amfexc01.amfbakery.com (mail.amfbakery.com [12.26.68.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02234 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:57:47 -0600 Received: by AMFEXC01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:58:39 -0500 Message-ID: <8D38DB122A95D2119A6F0008C7093D1A76463E@AMFEXC01> From: "Juergensen, Marty" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:58:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Not that I am aware of. Did you loose your originating document? Martin Juergensen AMF Bakery Systems 2115 West Laburnum Avenue Technical Documentation Manager Direct Line - 804-340-4415 Fax - 804-355-1074 Toll Free - 1-800-BAKERS-1 ext.-415 mjuergensen@amfbakery.com -----Original Message----- From: Bigelow, Janet [mailto:Janet.Bigelow@baltimore.com] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:27 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Is there a way to convert a PDF file back to MS Word? I haven't seen any mention of this capability in the Adobe doc. Any help would be appreciated. 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Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 18:19:59-GMT,2857;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11496 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:19:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04316; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:19:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:12:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03679; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:12:33 -0600 Received: from tsmtp3.ldap.isp (mailhost.teleline.es [195.235.113.141] (may be forged)) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03675 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:12:31 -0600 Received: from portos ([213.97.120.23]) by tsmtp3.ldap.isp (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G7XRQV00.VAR for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:08:55 +0100 Message-ID: <00a101c08a1f$589bd200$0400a8c0@portos> From: "La Oficina Sin Papel" To: References: Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting voicemail message in pdf document Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:14:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > When I insert the voicemail in the pdf document, and save it,.... How are you doing this? inserting... >but when I click on the inserted box holding the voicemail, I receive an error message, >saying that Adobe can't locate the document David, it seems you are not embedding the file, but just giving Acrobat the path of it. If you want to really embed the file inside Acrobat, try this: In the Toolbar, select the anotations tool. If you keep it clicked, you'll se you can choose which kind of anotation you want to insert. Choose the PIN. When you place the PIN on the doc, it will ask you to select a file. Select your .wav file. To open it, your users have to clic the pin again. The wav file is embedded inside Acrobat's stream. Hope it "sounds" good. Carlos. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 18:35:44-GMT,4174;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11985 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:35:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05733; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:34:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:27:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05230; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:27:36 -0600 Received: from amfexc01.amfbakery.com (mail.amfbakery.com [12.26.68.3]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05213 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:27:33 -0600 Received: by AMFEXC01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:28:24 -0500 Message-ID: <8D38DB122A95D2119A6F0008C7093D1A764642@AMFEXC01> From: "Juergensen, Marty" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting voicemail message in PDF document Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:27:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ David, The .wav file is not embedded into the PDF document. We had a similar problem with inserting a MPEG file incorrectly. Have you tried inserting the .wav file using the movie tool? Martin Juergensen AMF Bakery Systems 2115 West Laburnum Avenue Technical Documentation Manager Direct Line - 804-340-4415 Fax - 804-355-1074 Toll Free - 1-800-BAKERS-1 ext.-415 mjuergensen@amfbakery.com -----Original Message----- From: David R. Ambrose [mailto:drambrose@ambroselaw.com] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:50 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf-basics@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Inserting voicemail message in pdf document The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I am attempting to save voicemail in a pdf document, which has the header information relating to the voicemail, such as the date and time of the call. The voicemail is originally saved as a .wav file. When I insert the voicemail in the pdf document, and save it, I have no trouble opening it and playing the voicemail, which seems like an ideal way to save voicemail to an electronic file relating to a particular client/matter (as an aside, if anyone has any other thoughts on how to do this easier, I would like to hear them). However, when I send that same pdf as an attachment to a Groupwise email message, and receive the email and open the attachment, I can actually open it and read the header information, but when I click on the inserted box holding the voicemail, I receive an error message, saying that Adobe can't locate the document, and asking whether I want to browse to locate a replacement file. I realize that Groupwise makes a copy of the file, when sending it as an attachment, but why would it lead to this problem - in other words, what does the process of creating a temp file have to do with changing the nature of the inserted voicemail. I should also add that when I send just the .wav file as an attachment, I have no problem opening and playing it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. David Ambrose drambrose@ambroselaw.com Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 18:35:55-GMT,3401;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11989 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:35:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05775; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:35:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:28:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05282; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:28:28 -0600 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05278 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:28:27 -0600 From: Cybergrphx@aol.com Received: from Cybergrphx@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id j.16.81a8ba2 (4158) for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:28:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <16.81a8ba2.27a7103a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:28:10 EST Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16.81a8ba2.27a7103a_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10501 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ --part1_16.81a8ba2.27a7103a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/01 12:44:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, Janet.Bigelow@baltimore.com writes: > Is there a way to convert a PDF file back to MS Word? I haven't seen any > We've used the Aerial plug-in to convert PDFs back to RTF format, which would be close enough for MS-Word. I must warn you, though, the results are not always pretty. Don't know if it is still available. Check www.planetpdf.com or the list host at www.pdfzone.com Rob Robertson Cybergraphix, Inc. --part1_16.81a8ba2.27a7103a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/29/01 12:44:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Janet.Bigelow@baltimore.com writes:


Is there a way to convert a PDF file back to MS Word? I haven't seen any
mention of this capability in the Adobe doc. Any help would be appreciated.


We've used the Aerial plug-in to convert PDFs back to RTF format, which would
be close enough for MS-Word. I must warn you, though, the results are not
always pretty. Don't know if it is still available.

Check www.planetpdf.com or the list host at www.pdfzone.com

Rob Robertson
Cybergraphix, Inc. --part1_16.81a8ba2.27a7103a_boundary-- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 19:15:27-GMT,2814;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13213 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:15:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08544; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:15:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:07:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08103; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:07:05 -0600 Received: from fraserinstitute.ca (burrard.fraserinstitute.ca [207.102.5.157]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08085 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:07:02 -0600 Received: (qmail 21314 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2001 19:09:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lindseym.fraserinstitute.ca) (192.168.10.130) by burrard with SMTP; 29 Jan 2001 19:09:48 -0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010129105020.00a4b6c0@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca> X-Sender: lindseym@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:06:39 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Lindsey Thomas Martin Subject: [PDF] PDF error in Illustrator 9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Dear Colleagues, I have been getting the following error messages when trying to save a file in native format with Illustrator 9: First: "Acrobat PDF File is having difficulty. Bad parameter" Second: "This file has been modified outside Illustrator? Do you want to continue?" The files contain graphs created in Illustrator (data typed in) and, aside from the error messages above, some graphs have been corrupting when updated. I am running Illustrator 9 under NT4.0 SP6. Also running FrameMaker 5.5, Acrobat 4.0, Microsoft Word and Excel, WordPerfect 9.0, IE5.0, Eudora 5. Any suggestions? Can anyone suggest a list discussing Illustrator? Many thank, Lindsey Martin Lindsey Thomas Martin Publications, The Fraser Institute lindseym@fraserinstitute.ca tel: 604.688.0221 x584 fax: 604.688.8539 home: lmartin@sfu.ca tel: 604.215.9490 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 19:23:16-GMT,3345;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13475 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:23:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09228; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:23:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:16:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08690; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:16:01 -0600 Received: from border.ambroselaw.com ([206.163.193.49]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08686 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:15:58 -0600 Received: from Ambrose-Message_Server by border.ambroselaw.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:19:02 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:18:37 -0800 From: "David R. Ambrose" To: , Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting voicemail message in pdf document Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA08687 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Aandi, Thanks for the information. Of course, I didn't bother to read the first part of the help text, which specifically addresses this. Yes, I was using the Movie tool. So, I did go read the help text on how to embed sound, and it appears that it suggests the way to do it is to use the Forms tool, and then select Sound as the action. Unfortunately, I'm following the process and getting nowhere with respect to it playing the .wav file which I selected. Any suggestions? Regards, David Ambrose drambrose@ambroselaw.com >>> "Aandi Inston" 01/29/01 10:09AM >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I am attempting to save voicemail in a pdf document, which > has the header information relating to the voicemail, such as > the date and time of the call. The voicemail is originally > saved as a .wav file. When I insert the voicemail in the pdf > document, and save it, I have no trouble opening it and > playing the voicemail... HOW do you insert it in the document? If you use the MOVIE tool, they you aren't inserting it, you are only linking to it. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 19:25:51-GMT,3410;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13551 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:25:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09448; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:25:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:18:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08851; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:18:13 -0600 Received: from border.ambroselaw.com ([206.163.193.49]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08842 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:18:11 -0600 Received: from Ambrose-Message_Server by border.ambroselaw.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:21:05 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:20:30 -0800 From: "David R. Ambrose" To: , Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting voicemail message in pdf document Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA08845 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Carlos, Thanks for the information as well. I was using the Movie tool. However, when following your suggestion, under Annotations, there is no reference to a PIN, so I'm not quite sure what I'm missing. We have Adobe Acrobat 4.05. Any suggestions? Regards, David Ambrose drambrose@ambroselaw.com >>> "La Oficina Sin Papel" 01/29/01 10:14AM >>> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > When I insert the voicemail in the pdf document, and save it,.... How are you doing this? inserting... >but when I click on the inserted box holding the voicemail, I receive an error message, >saying that Adobe can't locate the document David, it seems you are not embedding the file, but just giving Acrobat the path of it. If you want to really embed the file inside Acrobat, try this: In the Toolbar, select the anotations tool. If you keep it clicked, you'll se you can choose which kind of anotation you want to insert. Choose the PIN. When you place the PIN on the doc, it will ask you to select a file. Select your .wav file. To open it, your users have to clic the pin again. The wav file is embedded inside Acrobat's stream. Hope it "sounds" good. Carlos. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 19:26:10-GMT,4734;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13556 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:26:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09586; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:25:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:18:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08899; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:18:49 -0600 Received: from cam-mailer1.bbn.com (cam-mailer1.bbn.com [171.78.68.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08895 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:18:48 -0600 Received: from ctex01.us.cybertrust.com (ctex01.us.cybertrust.com [192.233.30.4]) by cam-mailer1.bbn.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21729 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:18:48 -0500 (EST) X-Recipient: Received: by ctex01.us.cybertrust.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:13:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Bigelow, Janet" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:12:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for your thoughts on the matter. WE have managed to track down the original document after all, but others have also asked this question. > -----Original Message----- > From: Juergensen, Marty [mailto:MJuergensen@amfbakery.com] > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:58 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Not that I am aware of. Did you loose your originating document? > > Martin Juergensen > AMF Bakery Systems > 2115 West Laburnum Avenue > Technical Documentation Manager > Direct Line - 804-340-4415 > Fax - 804-355-1074 > Toll Free - 1-800-BAKERS-1 ext.-415 > mjuergensen@amfbakery.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bigelow, Janet [mailto:Janet.Bigelow@baltimore.com] > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:27 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Is there a way to convert a PDF file back to MS Word? I haven't seen any mention of this capability in the Adobe doc. Any help would be appreciated. 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Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 19:38:48-GMT,3149;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14081 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:38:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11439; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:38:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:31:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10417; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:31:10 -0600 Received: from cam-mailer1.bbn.com (cam-mailer1.bbn.com [171.78.68.5]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10409 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:31:09 -0600 Received: from ctex01.us.cybertrust.com (ctex01.us.cybertrust.com [192.233.30.4]) by cam-mailer1.bbn.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24237 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:31:09 -0500 (EST) X-Recipient: Received: by ctex01.us.cybertrust.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:25:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Bigelow, Janet" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:25:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the thoughts on this subject. When I looked up the Aerial plug-in I found out it's only for Acrobat 3.0 and I'm running 4.0. Oh well,..... -----Original Message----- From: Cybergrphx@aol.com [mailto:Cybergrphx@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 1:28 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word In a message dated 1/29/01 12:44:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, Janet.Bigelow@baltimore.com writes: Is there a way to convert a PDF file back to MS Word? I haven't seen any mention of this capability in the Adobe doc. Any help would be appreciated. We've used the Aerial plug-in to convert PDFs back to RTF format, which would be close enough for MS-Word. I must warn you, though, the results are not always pretty. Don't know if it is still available. Check www.planetpdf.com or the list host at www.pdfzone.com Rob Robertson Cybergraphix, Inc. This footnote confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Jan-2001 21:46:45-GMT,3836;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18280 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:46:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23335; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:46:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:37:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22831; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:37:41 -0600 Received: from zedd.revealed.net (zedd.revealed.net [205.243.76.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22827 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:37:39 -0600 Received: from b2a5f8 (dax19.revealed.net [208.16.227.162]) by zedd.revealed.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA29492 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:36:11 -0600 Message-ID: <016201c08a3b$e0e3c160$8a05fea9@b2a5f8> From: "Cy Galley" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:04:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ You can select text and paste it into word and then select the graphics and paste it also. Knowing word, you will have to do some re-formatting Cy Galley - editor, B-C Contact! Bellanca-Champion Club Visit us at: http://www.bellanca-championclub.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bigelow, Janet" To: Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Is there a way to convert a PDF file back to MS Word? I haven't seen any > mention of this capability in the Adobe doc. Any help would be appreciated. > > Janet Bigelow > Baltimore Technologies > 77 "A" Street > Needham, MA 02494 > > Voice : 781-455-3796 > mailto:janet.bigelow@baltimore.com > http://www.baltimore.com/ > ____________________________________ > The information contained in this message is confidential and is > intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message > in error or there are any problems please notify the originator > immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of > this message is strictly forbidden. This message and any attachments > have been scanned for viruses. Baltimore Technologies Ltd. will not be > liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising > from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a > result of any virus being passed on. > > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 0:06:17-GMT,3702;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22028 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:06:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29841; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:06:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:57:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29326; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:57:56 -0600 Received: from border.ambroselaw.com ([206.163.193.49]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29322; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:57:55 -0600 Received: from Ambrose-Message_Server by border.ambroselaw.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:00:49 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:00:30 -0800 From: "David R. Ambrose" To: Cc: , Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting voicemail message in pdf document Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAB29323 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Carlos, Again, thanks for all of the information. I did locate the PIN in the toolbar, and I was able to use it, as well as your other suggestion, using the LINKS tool, to successfully save voicemail. What is interesting about the two ways of doing this is that when I open the pdf document, and click on the PIN icon, it actually open the MS Wave Player dialogue box, and then enable me to play the voicemail, while when I click on the area of the LINKS tool, it just launches into playing the voicemail, without any accompanying dialogue box. I'm not quite sure why it does this, and also what the significance, if any, is of the difference. By the way, I assume the name of your firm translates to: "The Paperless Office?" in English. Assumjing this to be the case, do you happen to know a good friend of ours, Ross Kodner? He has been very active in promoting the concept of The Paper Less Office. Anyway, again thanks for all of the useful information. Regards, David Ambrose drambrose@ambroselaw.com >>> "La Oficina Sin Papel" 01/29/01 11:36AM >>> > Carlos, > > Thanks for the information as well. I was using the Movie tool. However, when following your suggestion, under Annotations, there is no reference to a PIN, so I'm not quite sure what I'm missing. We have Adobe Acrobat 4.05. Any suggestions? You're looking in the menu bar. Look for a Pin icon (yes.. a pin.. like the one to hang posters from the wall) in the toolbar. You probably see a doc icon now. Keep the doc icon pressed. You'll see the pin. There's another way to embed sounds. Put a link in the doc. Select the action "PLAY A SOUND" under the properties of the link. It will prompt you to select the file. Select it and it will embed it. Carlos Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 0:09:54-GMT,2849;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22152 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:09:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA30153; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:09:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:02:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29594; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:02:53 -0600 Received: from priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net (fepout4.telus.net [199.185.220.239]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29589 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:02:52 -0600 Received: from jon.telusplanet.net ([161.184.204.146]) by priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010130000242.QZZR15963.priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net@jon.telusplanet.net> for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:02:42 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010129165738.00aee810@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: brehautj/pop.telusplanet.net@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:01:16 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Jon D. Brehaut" Subject: [PDF] Merging pdf files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Folks, I have created a couple of dozen pdf files from PageMaker that I want to merge into one pdf file. I open one file then try to insert the others. But when I do so, Acrobat gives an error message about there being subset fonts with the same name and therefore can't merge the files. Since all pdf files have been created on my machine with the one program (printing to the generic postscript driver then distilling), any fonts with the same name would be the same font. What can I do to get around this problem? Thanks. Jon _________________________________ Jon D. Brehaut, Partner Hummingbird Consultants "Bringing people and information together" Sherwood Park, AB Tel: (780) 464-2530 Fax: (780) 449-6626 E-mail: Jon.Brehaut@telusplanet.net Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 1:36:18-GMT,2787;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24220 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:36:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01361; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:36:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:29:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00995; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:29:48 -0600 Received: from priv-edtnes04-hme0.telusplanet.net (fepout2.telus.net [199.185.220.237]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00991 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:29:46 -0600 Received: from jon.telusplanet.net ([161.184.205.30]) by priv-edtnes04-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010130012927.NQQ25673.priv-edtnes04-hme0.telusplanet.net@jon.telusplanet.net> for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:29:27 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010129182350.00aeeed0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: brehautj/pop.telusplanet.net@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:28:45 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Jon D. Brehaut" Subject: [PDF] merging pdf files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi folks, I've solved part of my own problem. I found the method of concatenating postscript files, using rundirex.txt (which, btw, is the only concatenation file I found in my Xtras folder). But, it doesn't work the way it says it does. I numbered all my files from 01 to 30. Yet, it persists in distilling 19, 03 - 26, 01, 27-30, 01. I've checked to see if I have any strange spaces in the file name, but I don't. Anyone know what might be going on here? Thanks. Jon _________________________________ Jon D. Brehaut, Partner Hummingbird Consultants "Bringing people and information together" Sherwood Park, AB Tel: (780) 464-2530 Fax: (780) 449-6626 E-mail: Jon.Brehaut@telusplanet.net Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 8:55:56-GMT,2300;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02837 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:38:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18357; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:38:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:24:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA17647; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:24:19 -0600 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA17643 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:24:17 -0600 Received: from [213.123.158.164] (helo=postle.net) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 14NW5I-00039R-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:24:16 +0000 Message-ID: <3A7679FF.28C6CDE5@postle.net> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:23:27 +0000 From: Denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb]C-NSCPCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDFmarks gotodestination Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Following excellent help from this list some while back I have implemented dozens of pdfmark destinations with spaces in the destination names accessed from drop down menus. Now that I come to add a few "go to destination" pdfmarks I can't figure out the syntax for these if the destination has a space or spaces in the name. Can anyone tell how to do this? Denis Postle The Mind Gymnasium: digital edition Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 9:04:40-GMT,3772;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03315 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:04:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20003; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:04:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:57:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19615; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:57:41 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19611 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:57:39 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA10910 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:57:41 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting voicemail message in pdf document Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:57:33 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01c08a9a$b0b93ba0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Again, thanks for all of the information. I did locate the > PIN in the toolbar, and I was able to use it, as well as your > other suggestion, using the LINKS tool, to successfully save > voicemail. What is interesting about the two ways of doing > this is that when I open the pdf document, and click on the > PIN icon, it actually open the MS Wave Player dialogue box, > and then enable me to play the voicemail, while when I click > on the area of the LINKS tool, it just launches into playing > the voicemail, without any accompanying dialogue box. I'm > not quite sure why it does this, and also what the > significance, if any, is of the difference. 1. When you use the movie tool, you are using a particular kind of multimedia support in Acrobat. This in turn uses QuickTime or Video For Windows to provide navigation. In the case of a movie, there is a window in the document. A sound clip is treated more or less like a picture-less movie. The movie tool never embeds files into a PDF. 2. When you use a link to play a sound, you are using support built in to Acrobat for sound streams - that is information in the PDF which contains sounds (not WAV files, it is a special PDF format). Playing the sound uses a very simple player in Acrobat with no controls. 3. When you use the PIN annotation to make a file link, Acrobat just stores the file. It can be absolutely any kind of file, and Acrobat knows nothing about the file. When you open the annotation, Acrobat issues a warning (because the file could be ANYTHING), and asks Windows (or the current system) to play the file. Hence in this case it is much the same as if you double clicked on the file in the first place. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 9:19:01-GMT,2117;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03556 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:19:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20950; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:18:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:11:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20612; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:11:52 -0600 Received: from exchange.kalsoft.online.sh.cn ([202.96.217.169]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20608 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:11:50 -0600 Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:11:47 +0800 Message-ID: From: "Liao Jun (Andrew Liao)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF]PDFwriter or Distiller or PS->PDF when converting QX->PDF, w hat's the diffirence??? Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:11:46 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ When converting a Quark file to PDF in PC, there are 3 way: 1. QX-->PDF, using PDFwriter printer driver 2. QX-->PDF, using Distiller printer driver 3. QX-->PS-->PDF, using PS printer driver and Distiller software What's the difference between 3 way?? Thanks, Andrew Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 12:48:02-GMT,3248;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07130 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 05:48:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA30062; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:47:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:38:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29521; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:38:22 -0600 Received: from smtp.digapp.com ([38.164.135.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA29517 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:38:20 -0600 Received: from [207.29.200.50] by smtp.digapp.com (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3) id 189035 via TCP with SMTP; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:39:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000e01c08a9a$b0b93ba0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> References: <000e01c08a9a$b0b93ba0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:30:21 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting voicemail message in pdf document Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 8:57 AM +0000 1/30/01, Aandi Inston wrote: >1. When you use the movie tool, you are using a particular >kind of multimedia support in Acrobat. This in turn uses >QuickTime or Video For Windows to provide navigation. AFAIK, it is always/only QuickTime that is used by Acrobat to play movies. HOWEVER, since QT supports a number of other video formats (MPEG, Flash, etc.) they can also be placed into Acrobat for playing - BUT it's still QT that is doing "the heavy lifting". >2. When you use a link to play a sound, you are using >support built in to Acrobat for sound streams - that is >information in the PDF which contains sounds (not WAV >files, it is a special PDF format). Again, as I understand it, the "special PDF format" is again QuickTime. The Acrobat guys figured (smartly, if you ask me) that they'd leverage the work they did for movies by using the same code and again getting the benefits of all the different formats (WAV, AIFF, ec.) that QT supported. Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 13:33:01-GMT,2626;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07925 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:33:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA32595; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:32:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:25:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32170; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:25:37 -0600 Received: from mail2.iserv.net (mail2.iserv.net [204.177.184.152]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA32150 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:25:32 -0600 Received: from [208.32.163.55] (tnt3-163-56.iserv.net [208.32.163.55]) by mail2.iserv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA31826 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:25:30 -0500 X-Envelope-To: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:28:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF]PDFwriter or Distiller or PS->PDF when converting QX->PDF, w hat's the diffirence??? From: kk To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > When converting a Quark file to PDF in PC, there are 3 way: > > 1. QX-->PDF, using PDFwriter printer driver Gives low quality PDFs suitable for office memos but not something to send to a printing press. Don't remember the details. I think it had problems with fonts and graphics. . . . > 2. QX-->PDF, using Distiller printer driver Computer goes through same steps as number 3, but hides the PS-->PDF part from you. > 3. QX-->PS-->PDF, using PS printer driver and Distiller software Same as 2. only leaves you with a separate PS file (if you configure Distiller to do so). --KK Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 13:42:27-GMT,2690;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA08080 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:42:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00729; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:42:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:35:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00101; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:35:28 -0600 Received: from gnbdc02.gnb.ca (11.27.GNB.CA [142.139.11.27] (may be forged)) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00082 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:35:25 -0600 Received: from [142.139.160.52] by gnbdc02.gnb.ca (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id ca for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:35:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gnb/stewartt@central10.gnb.ca Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:35:19 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Stewart Tower Subject: Re: [PDF]PDFwriter or Distiller or PS->PDF when converting QX->PDF, w hat's the diffirence??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > > 3. QX-->PS-->PDF, using PS printer driver and Distiller software > I always go this route; even with an application such as Freehand that exports PDF. It's an extra step in the process but gives total control through the entire file to PDF work flow. When creating the PS file, I save it to a Watched folder that I have set up in Distiller. If I need a different type of PDF (eg. lo-rez distribution vs. offset printing), I simply transfer the original PS file to a different Watched folder and Distiller creates the new PDF. -- stewart tower Communications New Brunswick Design Services 1 (506) 453-3081 http://www.gov.nb.ca/cnb/design/design1.htm Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 16:58:47-GMT,2703;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13168 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:58:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12044; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:57:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:49:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11397; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:49:35 -0600 Received: from relay.UK.COLT.NET (relay.UK.COLT.NET [195.110.64.110]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11393 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:49:34 -0600 Received: (qmail 21194 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2001 16:49:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO compictserver.completepicture.co.uk) (213.86.13.126) by relay.uk.colt.net with SMTP; 30 Jan 2001 16:49:06 -0000 Received: by COMPICTSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:50:07 -0000 Message-ID: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CF36@COMPICTSERVER> From: Paul To: "'pdf zone'" , "'Acrobat Talk'" Subject: [PDF] Autorun Syntax Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:50:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hello All, An old chestnut ! I have been producing Autorun CD's for a while but the syntax is always a problem. If I launch from the root using either acrobat or another .exe its ok but I cannot on win95/98 at least (NT is ok) get a file to launch with acrobat from a sub folder. e.g.. [autorun] open=Acrobat4\reader\acrord32.exe catalog\contents.pdf icon=Acrobat4\Reader\AcroRd32.exe,1 I have searched the ms knowledge base and cannot find a definitive Autorun syntax. any ideas anybody. TIA Paul Dennis Complete Picture UK Ltd 101 Coppergate House 16 Brune St London E1 7NJ Tel 020 7721 7766 Fax 020 7721 7984 http://www.completepicture.co.uk Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 17:49:30-GMT,2561;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14790 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:49:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15753; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:49:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:42:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15111; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:42:10 -0600 Received: from tsmtp1.mail.isp (mailhost.teleline.es [195.235.113.141] (may be forged)) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15106 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:42:08 -0600 Received: from portos ([213.97.120.23]) by tsmtp1.mail.isp (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G7ZL2501.NK5 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:39:41 +0100 Message-ID: <031e01c08ae4$3d4543e0$0400a8c0@portos> From: "La Oficina Sin Papel" To: References: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CF36@COMPICTSERVER> Subject: RE: [PDF] Autorun Syntax Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:44:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > I have been producing Autorun CD's for a while but the syntax is always a > problem. If I launch from the root using either acrobat or another .exe its > ok but I cannot on win95/98 at least (NT is ok) get a file to launch with > acrobat from a sub folder. > e.g.. > [autorun] > open=Acrobat4\reader\acrord32.exe catalog\contents.pdf > icon=Acrobat4\Reader\AcroRd32.exe,1 Try this: > open= "Acrobat4\reader\acrord32.exe" catalog\contents.pdf > icon=Acrobat4\Reader\AcroRd32.exe,1 Carlos Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 18:05:17-GMT,3679;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15549 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:05:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17767; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:05:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:57:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16758; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:57:22 -0600 Received: from ahab.ccrprocess.net ([206.96.41.6]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16739 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:57:17 -0600 From: Robert_Lira@BalboaInsurance.Com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF]PDFwriter, Distiller or PS, what's the diffirence??? also PPDs... X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:53:34 -0800 X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Trend MailScan on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/30/2001 09:52:46 AM, MIME-CD complete at 01/30/2001 09:52:46 AM, Serialize by Router on Ahab/Servers/CCRProcess(Release 5.0.2c |February 2, 2000) at 01/30/2001 09:53:00 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA16742 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ What PS Driver that creates generic (or portable/compatible) .ps files do you recommend when installing the .ppd? I used one from a large printer of ours to do all my distilling, be it web or print, I just have different parameters set for them (web optimized vs. print or prepress). The printer renamed this PS Driver as CMYKQPK, but lets say I wanted to install it on another person's machine, what "generic" Driver should I use? Did they "create" this file or is it just a SCitex driver with their "rename"??? When Windows installs the driver, I can choose from a list from Agfa to Xerox, but what is the driver that is universal "for all" that you use? Is that what "Acrobat Distiller" is for? What's IS the difference between Acro Distiller and PDFWriter? I've heard that PDFWriter is really bad, fonts and all...then why does Adobe even bother shipping that component??? What exactly is "going on" when I "print to file" a ".ps" using lets say my Tektronic vs. using "print to file a .ps" using LaserWriter drivers or Xerox or Lino-Hell, ad infinitum????? Also, what is the ".ppd" all about as well? Is that the "driver" itself or what? Please help demystify...thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >  > 3. QX-->PS-->PDF, using PS printer driver and Distiller software > I always go this route; even with an application such as Freehand that exports PDF. stewart tower Communications New Brunswick Design Services 1 (506) 453-3081 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 18:24:26-GMT,5102;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16453 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:24:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19490; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:24:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:16:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19068; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:16:47 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19062 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:16:45 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA22594 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10442; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G7ZMRH00.VWD; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:16:29 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010130101017.027d33f8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:16:30 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF]PDFwriter, Distiller or PS, what's the diffirence??? also PPDs... Cc: Robert_Lira@balboainsurance.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ The ONLY PPD that Adobe recommends for use in generating PostScript for distillation is the "Acrobat Distiller" PPD that comes with Adobe Acrobat. Contrary to popular mythology propagated by various prepress service providers and printers, you don't create PDF with PostScript generated for the final device. The customization of the PostScript generated from the PDF is controlled when you print the PDF file from Acrobat, not when you generate the PostScript from which the PDF file is created. Under Windows, Adobe Acrobat produces the Acrobat Distiller printer instance using either the AdobePS driver (Windows'9x or NT 4) or the system PostScript driver PSCRIPT5 (Windows 2000). That printer instance is all you really need to produce the proper PostScript for distillation. Stay away from PDFWriter like the plague. As a GDI device, it cannot deal with EPS and has other limitations. On the Macintosh, use AdobePS with the "Create Adobe PDF" desktop printer or AdobePS or Laserwriter with the "Acrobat Distiller" PPD. - Dov At 1/30/2001 09:53 AM, Robert_Lira@balboainsurance.com wrote: >What PS Driver that creates generic (or portable/compatible) .ps files >do you recommend when installing the .ppd? > >I used one from a large printer of ours to do all my distilling, be it web >or print, I just have different parameters set for them (web optimized vs. >print or prepress). > >The printer renamed this PS Driver as CMYKQPK, but lets say I wanted to >install >it on another person's machine, what "generic" Driver should I use? Did >they >"create" this file or is it just a SCitex driver with their "rename"??? > >When Windows installs the driver, I can choose from a list from Agfa to >Xerox, but >what is the driver that is universal "for all" that you use? > >Is that what "Acrobat Distiller" is for? > >What's IS the difference between Acro Distiller and PDFWriter? > >I've heard that PDFWriter is really bad, fonts and all...then why does >Adobe >even bother shipping that component??? > >What exactly is "going on" when I "print to file" a ".ps" using lets say my >Tektronic vs. using "print to file a .ps" using LaserWriter drivers or >Xerox >or Lino-Hell, ad infinitum????? > >Also, what is the ".ppd" all about as well? Is that the "driver" itself or >what? > >Please help demystify...thanks! >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > 3. QX-->PS-->PDF, using PS printer driver and Distiller software >> >I always go this route; even with an application such as Freehand >that exports PDF. > >stewart tower Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 18:37:51-GMT,3101;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16970 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:37:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20550; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:37:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:30:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19993; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:30:23 -0600 Received: from cygnus.bcl-computers.com (mail.bclcomputers.com [216.216.8.132]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19984 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:30:20 -0600 Received: from bcl-computers.com (ATHM-216-216-xxx-166.home.net [216.216.8.166]) by cygnus.bcl-computers.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id D8SK7BHJ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:29:43 -0800 Message-ID: <3A770974.C58AC3ED@bcl-computers.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:35:32 -0800 From: Rachel Burnsed X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word References: <200101301742.LAA15130@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ BCL Computers offers Acrobat plug-ins for converting PDF to RTF, HTML, and graphics formats. For converting to MSWord, I would suggest that you consider our Drake, Jade, and Magellan plug-ins. You can find free demos of these on our website at http://www.bcl-computers.com. If you have any questions, please contact us at sales@bcl-computers.com. Rachel Burnsed burnsed@bcl-computers.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:27:29 -0500 > From: "Bigelow, Janet" > Subject: [PDF] Converting PDF files back to MS Word > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Is there a way to convert a PDF file back to MS Word? I haven't seen any > mention of this capability in the Adobe doc. Any help would be appreciated. > > Janet Bigelow > Baltimore Technologies > 77 "A" Street > Needham, MA 02494 > > Voice : 781-455-3796 > mailto:janet.bigelow@baltimore.com > http://www.baltimore.com/ Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 19:03:00-GMT,3290;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17835 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:02:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22323; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:02:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:55:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21906; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:55:25 -0600 Received: from gatekeeper.nytimes.com (gatekeeper.nytimes.com [199.181.175.201]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21895 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:55:22 -0600 From: triggp@nytimes.com Received: from mail2.nytimes.com (mail2.nytimes.com [170.149.207.84]) by gatekeeper.nytimes.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA25115 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from notesgate.nytimes.com (notesgate.nytimes.com [170.149.201.214]) by mail2.nytimes.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00602 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by notesgate.nytimes.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id 852569E4.0067D9A4 ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:54:19 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NYTIMES To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852569E4.0067D881.00@notesgate.nytimes.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:54:32 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Distiller 4/Illustrator PDF Filter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ We're trying to figure out why files distilled in version 4.0 on a Unix processor cannot be reopened in Adobe Illustrator using the PDF parser. These same files, distilled on the same machine using version 3.0 have been working and can be reopened with no difficulties. Appears to be a font problem of some sort. The fonts have been embedded. The computer trying to reopen the files is Mac which already has the fonts loaded that are on the page, but the type comes up literally so scrambled that it not only can't be read, it does not even appear to be in discernible columns as it was originally laid out. Macromedia Freehand will do a better job of opening the affected files, at least you can read the type, but it is in courier, the columns are overlapping, etc... Appears to be some problem with embedding the postcript fonts into these 4.0 PDFs..... Any thoughts? ============================================ Peter J. Trigg -- Manager, Production Systems News Services and Marketing Services, The New York Times 122 E. 42nd St., New York, NY 10168 -- 212.499.3332 Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 20:03:16-GMT,2431;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19817 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:03:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25733; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:01:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:53:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25262; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:53:45 -0600 Received: from smtp08.iafrica.com (smtp08.iafrica.com [196.2.51.8]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25253 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:53:32 -0600 Received: from [196.3.240.214] by smtp08.iafrica.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0G7Z00CR8R8ZPB@smtp08.iafrica.com> for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:53:23 +0200 (SAT) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:52:19 +0200 From: Stephen Lavey Subject: [PDF] PDF2GO and Normalizer To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <0G7Z00CRAR8ZPB@smtp08.iafrica.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Can anyone help with the following...... We are using a CreoScitex Brisque Extreme, and want to convert postscript files with the AcrobatDistiller PPD embedded in them to Screen optimised PDFs On the Brisque I can choose to Normalize them and it produces the PDF but I do not get security options, it doesn't quite look like the Distiller I know. As for PDF2GO, this looks exactly like Distiller but it will not allow me to use 'PS' as an input file, only 'EPSF'. Any ideas? Stephen Lavey Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Jan-2001 23:09:57-GMT,2567;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26474 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:09:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05723; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:09:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:02:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05248; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:02:02 -0600 Received: from proxy.surf.net.au (ip-69-7.surf.net.au [203.87.69.7]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05244 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:01:56 -0600 Received: from [203.16.165.83] (ppp83.surf.net.au [203.16.165.83]) by proxy.surf.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04529; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:03:52 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: gheard@mail.surf.net.au Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010130101017.027d33f8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010130101017.027d33f8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:01:34 +1100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Geoffrey Heard Subject: Re: [PDF]PDFwriter, Distiller or PS, what's the diffirence??? also PPDs... Cc: Robert_Lira@balboainsurance.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ At 10:16 AM -0800 30/1/01, Dov Isaacs wrote: > >On the Macintosh, use AdobePS with the "Create Adobe PDF" desktop printer or >AdobePS or Laserwriter with the "Acrobat Distiller" PPD. Words of wisdom, Dov. I have, however, run into a slight problem once of twice using Laserwriter which was resolved by switching to AdobePS. I would suggest sticking with AdobePS for this purpose. 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Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Robert_Lira@balboainsurance.com, Geoffrey Heard In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010130101017.027d33f8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> <5.0.2.1.2.20010130101017.027d33f8@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I would agree with regards to AdobePS. It is the only driver integrated with the "Create Adobe PDF" plugin. However, there are some users who swear by "LaserWriter" and at AdobePS for religious or other reasons (despite the well-known fact that they are basically the same driver internally ... the name "LaserWriter" is derived from the days when Apple was in the printer business). - Dov At 1/30/2001 03:01 PM, Geoffrey Heard wrote: >At 10:16 AM -0800 30/1/01, Dov Isaacs wrote: >> >>On the Macintosh, use AdobePS with the "Create Adobe PDF" desktop printer or >>AdobePS or Laserwriter with the "Acrobat Distiller" PPD. > >Words of wisdom, Dov. I have, however, run into a slight problem once of twice using Laserwriter which was resolved by switching to AdobePS. I would suggest sticking with AdobePS for this purpose. > >Best regards >Geoff Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 1:47:18-GMT,3958;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02362 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:47:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13444; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:46:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:38:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13092; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:38:26 -0600 Received: from prserv.net (out1.prserv.net [32.97.166.31]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13087 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:38:22 -0600 Message-Id: <200101310138.TAA13087@everglades.binc.net> Received: from slip202-135-81-105.bg.th.ibm.net ([202.135.81.105]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <20010131013818201050qo6ge>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:38:20 +0000 From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Cc: "andrew.liao@iuniverse.com.cn" Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:30:05 +0700 X-Mailer: PMMail 1.96a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [PDF]PDFwriter or Distiller or PS->PDF when converting Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:42:11 -0600, andrew.liao wrote: >When converting a Quark file to PDF in PC, there are 3 way: >1. QX-->PDF, using PDFwriter printer driver >2. QX-->PDF, using Distiller printer driver >3. QX-->PS-->PDF, using PS printer driver and Distiller software >What's the difference between 3 way?? If you Read the Friendly Manual, you will find: "You can convert most documents into the Portable Document Format using PDF Writer driver included with Acrobat Exchange. There are documents, however, for which you must use Acrobat Distiller, or for which Acrobat Distiller produces better results. Use Acrobat Distiller to create PDF files when o Your document contains placed Encapsulated Postscript (EPS) artwork or images. o You are using an application that generates its own Postscript language files when printing or that produces the highest quality output on a Postscript printer. o Your document contains high-resolution images that you want to downsample (reduce in image resolution and file size). o PDF Writer produces unsatisfactory results such as poor quality or a large file size. This is often the case ifyour document contains complex blends, gradient fills, or EPS artwork or images. o You are using an application in a computing environment, such as UNIX or DOS, that does not include PDF Writer but that allows you to create Postscript language files. o You need to convert existing Postscript language files into PDF files." Above is from Exchange 2.1 manual but same principles apply with added bells/whistles mentioned in several other helpful replies to your query. For myself, I always go route 3 (which is now collapsed to route 2 for some aps and those who like it). However I prefer creating the ps files and retaining them as they are universally acceptable, readable as ASCII text, sent easily over message channels, and usable as-is for other purposes as well. They can also be tweaked manually if required. Jeffrey Race Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 4:42:04-GMT,3220;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06568 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:42:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20573; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:41:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:33:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20182; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:33:57 -0600 Received: from mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.1.29]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20178 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:33:54 -0600 Received: from cerberus.bms.com.au (CPE-144-132-59-162.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.59.162]) by mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05931 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:33:42 +1100 (EDT) Received: from maui.bms.com.au ([192.168.0.11]) by cerberus.bms.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:33:03 +1100 Received: by MAUI with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:36:05 +1100 Message-ID: From: Neville Burnell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Command line PDF print utility for Windows 98/NT Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:36:05 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi Everyone, We have a document archive facility which emits PDF files on demand and allows me to configure a "print command" script which is executed [on Win95/98/ME/NT/2K] when the PDF has been created. I need to be able to configure the print command script to submit the PDF to one of several network printers [all work with Acrobat Reader] and then exit after submitting the print, for example: PDFprint myreport.pdf \\server\printer where "pdfprint" is the mythical pdf print command line utility, and \\server\printer is the UNC to the target printer. The target printer generally *wont* support postscript, so converting the PDF to PS and submitting the PS file unfortunately wont work :-((( Seems like a simple "cutdown" version of the Acrobat Reader would do the job, but a cant find anything suitable after searching most places. Alternately some sort of PDF print server monitoring a directory would also work ... Hope you can help, Neville Burnell Business Manager Software Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 5:04:54-GMT,3584;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07104 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:04:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA21751; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:04:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:57:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21441; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:57:56 -0600 Received: from mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.1.29]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21437 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:57:53 -0600 Received: from cerberus.bms.com.au (CPE-144-132-59-162.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.59.162]) by mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13564 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:57:40 +1100 (EDT) Received: from maui.bms.com.au ([192.168.0.11]) by cerberus.bms.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:57:01 +1100 Received: by MAUI with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:00:03 +1100 Message-ID: From: Neville Burnell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] FW: Command line PDF print utility for Windows 98/NT Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:00:01 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ oops - sorry everyone, just discovered that GSWIN32C.EXE distributed with GhostScript 6.50 should do the job - for future ref: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/AFPL/get650.htm -----Original Message----- From: Neville Burnell Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2001 3:36 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: Command line PDF print utility for Windows 98/NT Hi Everyone, We have a document archive facility which emits PDF files on demand and allows me to configure a "print command" script which is executed [on Win95/98/ME/NT/2K] when the PDF has been created. I need to be able to configure the print command script to submit the PDF to one of several network printers [all work with Acrobat Reader] and then exit after submitting the print, for example: PDFprint myreport.pdf \\server\printer where "pdfprint" is the mythical pdf print command line utility, and \\server\printer is the UNC to the target printer. The target printer generally *wont* support postscript, so converting the PDF to PS and submitting the PS file unfortunately wont work :-((( Seems like a simple "cutdown" version of the Acrobat Reader would do the job, but a cant find anything suitable after searching most places. Alternately some sort of PDF print server monitoring a directory would also work ... Hope you can help, Neville Burnell Business Manager Software Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 8:58:00-GMT,2643;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12449 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:57:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA31639; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:56:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:41:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA30747; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:40:54 -0600 Received: from public.electrolux.se (public.electrolux.se [193.183.68.17]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA30736 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:40:47 -0600 From: christian.larsson@electrolux.se Received: from gatekeeper (gatekeeper [193.183.68.29]) by public.electrolux.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA13188 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:41:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from sthhub02.ed.electrolux.se (sthhub02eth [10.10.10.2]) by ed9usc2.ed.electrolux.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26910 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:40:36 +0100 (MET) Subject: [PDF] TIFF to PDF? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:39:38 +0100 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on STHHUB02/Servers/Electrolux Group(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 2001-01-31 09:39:37 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I need a tiff viewer. >From our scanner we receiving a multipagetiff, we want this file to be a PDF file automatically. We have a program called "Automate" to do this for us, but it needs a tiff viewer and a printer or a program that's converting TIFF files to PDF files. The program works from a ftp-server, there for we need a solution with license for server or makes the jobb on that persons computer who did the scanning, based on tiff files name. Best regards Christian Larsson Electrolux Professsional AB Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 9:56:05-GMT,3537;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA11634 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:16:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29454; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:16:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:07:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29064; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:07:47 -0600 Received: from cirad.cirad.fr (cirad.cirad.fr [195.221.173.95]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29060 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:07:45 -0600 Received: from pcradigon (pcradigon.cirad.fr [193.51.114.109]) by cirad.cirad.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28513 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:09:48 +0100 From: "Philippe Radigon" To: "'pdf zone'" Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:05:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PDF] Autorun Syntax Message-ID: <3A77D562.23323.A68A1A8@localhost> In-reply-to: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CF36@COMPICTSERVER> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12cFR) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA29061 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Hi, We buy an autorun for Acrobat working both with MacOs and Windows OS. It is possible to have a lot of parameters. Take a look at :http://www.js2.net On 30 Jan 2001, at 16:50, Paul wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hello All, > An old chestnut ! > > I have been producing Autorun CD's for a while but the syntax is > always a problem. If I launch from the root using either acrobat or > another .exe its ok but I cannot on win95/98 at least (NT is ok) get a > file to launch with acrobat from a sub folder. e.g.. [autorun] > open=Acrobat4\reader\acrord32.exe catalog\contents.pdf > icon=Acrobat4\Reader\AcroRd32.exe,1 > > I have searched the ms knowledge base and cannot find a definitive > Autorun syntax. any ideas anybody. TIA Paul Dennis Complete Picture UK > Ltd 101 Coppergate House 16 Brune St London E1 7NJ Tel 020 7721 7766 > Fax 020 7721 7984 http://www.completepicture.co.uk > > > > Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ Bonne et heureuse année 2001 =============================================== Philippe Radigon CIRAD-DIST-Multimédia (TA 483/05) 34398 MONTPELLIER Cédex 5 Tel : 04 6761 5524 - Fax : 04 6761 5513 Serveur WWW : http://www.cirad.fr =============================================== Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 11:36:23-GMT,3566;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA15788 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 04:36:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06230; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 05:36:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 05:25:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA05628; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 05:25:01 -0600 Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05624 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 05:24:58 -0600 From: fjk@akgsoftware.de Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14NvNT-0003KK-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:24:43 +0100 Received: from p3e9bd6ed.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([62.155.214.237] helo=akgsoftware.de) by mrvdom00.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14NvMw-0003JW-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:24:11 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Shame on ADOBE? Was: Semi-transparent colors in Acrobat 4.0x? Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:24:50 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001d01c07b2d$eb32e5a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA05625 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > > W/o doubt you know far more than I about PDF specifications :-) ... > > what makes me wonder is the information in the cited Adobe > > support document that "semi-transparency" in Office apps show > > opaque on screen but should be semi-transparent in print. > What is the detailed reference there? > Aandi Hi Aandi, just got Illustrator 9.0 and made a pdf with 3 transparent color squares. Saving it as PDF in Illustrator and opening it with Acrobat 4.0 it shows and prints correct! Printing it from Illustrator using Acrobat Distiller printer shows and prints correct, too! The header says pdf 1.3. Seems as if there were some hidden secrets in PDF-1.3-definition only told to Adobe programmers, doesn't it? If you wish I'll send you the PDF off-list. Best, Franz-Josef Knelangen -------------------------------------------- Franz-Josef Knelangen AKG Software Consulting GmbH Jechtinger Straße 13 79111 Freiburg im Breisgau Germany Tel. : 0761-47821-19 PC-Fax : +49-761-47821-31 E-Mail : fjk@akgsoftware.de Tixi-Mail : FJK+49-761-4706926@Tixi.box -------------------------------------------- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 12:23:10-GMT,3092;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16738 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 05:23:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA08641; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:23:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:16:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08324; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:16:00 -0600 Received: from quite.com (host15.quite.com [193.131.11.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA08320 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:15:53 -0600 Received: from gateway (gateway.quite.com [193.131.11.81]) by quite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA13487 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:16:00 GMT From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Shame on ADOBE? Was: Semi-transparent colors in Acrobat 4.0x? Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:15:48 -0000 Message-ID: <002301c08b7f$8c41bdc0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > > > W/o doubt you know far more than I about PDF > specifications :-) ... > > > what makes me wonder is the information in the cited Adobe > > > support document that "semi-transparency" in Office apps show > > > opaque on screen but should be semi-transparent in print. > > What is the detailed reference there? > > Aandi > > Hi Aandi, > > just got Illustrator 9.0 and made a pdf with 3 transparent > color squares. Saving it as PDF in Illustrator and opening it > with Acrobat 4.0 it shows and prints correct! Printing it > from Illustrator using Acrobat Distiller printer shows and > prints correct, too! The header says pdf 1.3. Seems as if > there were some hidden secrets in PDF-1.3-definition only > told to Adobe programmers, doesn't it? Have you analysed the file? Do so, and if you find any undocumented features then I'd be happy to take a look. Otherwise, I will say: this file must be using one of the techniques to fake transparency that I have already discussed. Aandi Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 12:55:12-GMT,2695;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA17393 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 05:55:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA10220; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:54:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:46:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09858; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:46:03 -0600 Received: from relay.UK.COLT.NET (relay.UK.COLT.NET [195.110.64.110]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA09854 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:46:02 -0600 Received: (qmail 13782 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 12:45:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO compictserver.completepicture.co.uk) (213.86.13.126) by relay.uk.colt.net with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 12:45:35 -0000 Received: by COMPICTSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:46:37 -0000 Message-ID: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CF3D@COMPICTSERVER> From: Paul To: "'pdf zone'" Subject: [PDF] Acorbat Installer Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:46:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Having just come off the phone after an hour to someone who had inadvertently put v2 on a new machine, and this wasn't the first time this month. If anyone from Adobe is listening I think it would be a great help to those who distribute acrobat if the V4 installer presented the user with an option to search and remove all earlier versions rather than letting them install and then remove afterwards as is current. This has been raised before does anyone else suffer from this ? I am moving to autoruns to solve this. Regards Paul Paul Dennis Complete Picture UK Ltd 101 Coppergate House 16 Brune St London E1 7NJ Tel 020 7721 7766 Fax 020 7721 7984 http://www.completepicture.co.uk Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 14:13:35-GMT,3430;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19115 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:13:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15470; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:13:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:04:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14773; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:04:24 -0600 Received: from relay02.cablecom.net (relay02.cablecom.net [62.2.33.102]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14766 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:04:22 -0600 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by relay02.cablecom.net (8.11.1/8.11.0/SOL/MXRELAY-1.03) with ESMTP id f0VE4Ku16054; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:04:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.11.1/8.11.0/MSOL-2.17) with ESMTP id f0VE4K703992; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:04:20 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: max%prodok.com@mail7.burlee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CF3D@COMPICTSERVER> References: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CF3D@COMPICTSERVER> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:58:02 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Acorbat Installer Cc: Paul Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Paul, there is a little problem with Acrobat 2, as it has been available for integration into other products at its time. So, it may appear under different names, and therefore, it might be difficult for finding all those versions. And also, removing those versions of Acrobat will brake those applications. But I agree that the installer should have an option allowing searching for all kind of legacy stuff. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:max@prodok.com http://www.prodok.com [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >Having just come off the phone after an hour to someone who had >inadvertently put v2 on a new machine, and this wasn't the first time this >month. If anyone from Adobe is listening I think it would be a great help >to those who distribute acrobat if the V4 installer presented the user with >an option to search and remove all earlier versions rather than letting them >install and then remove afterwards as is current. This has been raised >before does anyone else suffer from this ? I am moving to autoruns to solve >this. Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 16:27:15-GMT,2722;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23494 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:27:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23696; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:26:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:16:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23045; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:16:31 -0600 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23041 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:16:29 -0600 Received: from [213.123.125.69] (helo=postle.net) by tungsten.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 14Nzvn-0000kr-00 for pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:16:28 +0000 Message-ID: <3A783A28.58798726@postle.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:15:37 +0000 From: Denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb]C-NSCPCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acorbat Installer References: <419F5AE598D2D311B46E00C0F031948308CF3D@COMPICTSERVER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Max Wyss wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > Paul, > > there is a little problem with Acrobat 2, as it has been available > for integration into other products at its time. So, it may appear > under different names, and therefore, it might be difficult for > finding all those versions. And also, removing those versions of > Acrobat will brake those applications. > > But I agree that the installer should have an option allowing > searching for all kind of legacy stuff. And also.... if I may continue my recent query.... some way of reliably installing Distiller Printer. I'm still without it. Denis Postle Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 17:19:09-GMT,3679;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25458 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:19:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26783; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:18:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:09:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26228; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:09:51 -0600 Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26224 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:09:50 -0600 Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20237 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15309; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from isaacs-base.adobe.com ([153.32.39.110]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G81EC100.5XT; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:09:37 -0800 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-URL: X-Location: Office (ISAACS-BASE) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010131090640.027d5900@mailsj.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: isaacs@mailsj.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:09:37 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Dov Isaacs" Subject: Re: [PDF] Shame on ADOBE? Was: Semi-transparent colors in Acrobat 4.0x? Cc: fjk@akgsoftware.de In-Reply-To: References: <001d01c07b2d$eb32e5a0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ There are no secrets here at all about the PDF 1.3 format. When Illustrator 9.0x saves a file as PDF 1.3 or creates EPS or PostScript for printing, it "flattens" the file causing overlapping transparent objects to fit the current imaging model. - Dov At 1/31/2001 03:24 AM, fjk@akgsoftware.de wrote: >> > W/o doubt you know far more than I about PDF specifications :-) ... >> > what makes me wonder is the information in the cited Adobe >> > support document that "semi-transparency" in Office apps show >> > opaque on screen but should be semi-transparent in print. >> What is the detailed reference there? >> Aandi > >Hi Aandi, > >just got Illustrator 9.0 and made a pdf with 3 transparent color squares. Saving it as PDF in Illustrator and opening it with Acrobat 4.0 it shows and prints correct! Printing it from Illustrator using Acrobat Distiller printer shows and prints correct, too! The header says pdf 1.3. Seems as if there were some hidden secrets in PDF-1.3-definition only told to Adobe programmers, doesn't it? > >If you wish I'll send you the PDF off-list. > >Best, > >Franz-Josef Knelangen Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 18:48:03-GMT,3723;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28435 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:48:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00793; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:47:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:38:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32715; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:38:39 -0600 Received: from terra.cms.wwu.edu (terra.cms.wwu.edu [140.160.248.80]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32711 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:38:37 -0600 Received: by terra.cms.wwu.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:38:36 -0800 Message-ID: <13E890B91B40D111958E0060B03C86ED081F7503@terra.cms.wwu.edu> From: Kathy Tadlock To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] e-mail function Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:38:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C08BB5.0214C170" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08BB5.0214C170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I set up a form in Acrobat and included a button for faculty on campus to automatically e-mail the completed form to our office. I had intended the e-mail feature to be available to anyone on campus with only Acrobat Reader and no way to save the completed form. Now I have discovered that Reader doesn't support the e-mail Java script!Any way around this problem? Kathy Tadlock Support Services, Publishing Services Wilson Library 564 Western Washington University Bellingham, WA 98225 (360)650-3545 Kathy.Tadlock@wwu.edu ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08BB5.0214C170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
I set up a form in Acrobat and included a button for faculty on campus to automatically e-mail the completed form to our office. I had intended the e-mail feature to be available to anyone on campus with only Acrobat Reader and no way to save the completed form. Now I have discovered that Reader doesn't support the e-mail Java script!Any way around this problem?

Kathy Tadlock
Support Services, Publishing Services
Wilson Library 564
Western Washington University
Bellingham, WA 98225
(360)650-3545
Kathy.Tadlock@wwu.edu

------_=_NextPart_001_01C08BB5.0214C170-- Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 19:23:27-GMT,5146;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29947 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:23:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04215; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:23:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:13:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03648; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:13:21 -0600 Received: from relay03.cablecom.net (relay03.cablecom.net [62.2.33.103]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03644 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:13:18 -0600 Received: from mail.swissonline.ch (mail.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.83]) by relay03.cablecom.net (8.11.1/8.11.0/SOL/MXRELAY-1.03) with ESMTP id f0VJDAE60897; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:13:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (client74-136.hispeed.ch [62.2.74.136]) by mail.swissonline.ch (8.11.1/8.11.0/MSOL-2.17) with ESMTP id f0VJDA425458; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:13:10 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: max%prodok.com@mail7.burlee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <13E890B91B40D111958E0060B03C86ED081F7503@terra.cms.wwu.edu> References: <13E890B91B40D111958E0060B03C86ED081F7503@terra.cms.wwu.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:12:01 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] e-mail function Cc: Kathy Tadlock Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ Kathy, yes, there are workarounds, although in all cases, a properly configured web browser (and mail client) may be needed. Method 1: your users load the form by clicking on a link within their web browser. Acrobat starts up and the form gets displayed in the browser window. The user fills out the form. The form contains a submit button using the Submit action or the submitForm() method. The data is submitted to a script (CGI, ASP, or similar) on a web server which then does the rest. Note that this approach requires the user to view the form under a web browser. Method 2: Your users open the form either in Acrobat (Reader) or in the web browser. As in method 1, there is a submit button, but this time, it uses the getURL() method, and submits the data to the script which then does the rest. When the user is running Reader on its own, it will now open the web browser which then calls the script. As this method uses the GET method, you would have to use some little JavaScripting to put together the complete URL, including all parameters. Note that this approach works in both environments, under a web browser or on its own. If your user happen to have a full Acrobat Viewer component (Business Tools or full version), it would be WebCapture handling the call URL, and you would get the answering page added to your document. Note too: for methods 1 and 2, your user must have the possibility to immediately build up an internet connection Method 3: Similar to method 3, but working off-line as well. Instead of the http: protocol in the getURL() method, you would use the mailto: protocol and pass your parameters accordingly. This then opens the web browser, which itself opens the mail client. Depending on the browser and the mail client, more or less parameters get passed properly. In some cases, you will need some extra tricks to get the data over to the mail client. Supposed that the information is in the mail client, your user can then send the mail. Note that this method works only when Reader runs on its own. But, this method works even if the user can not immediately build up an internet connection, such as in a mobile environment. I have successfully implemented methods 2 and 3 in several projects. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:max@prodok.com http://www.prodok.com [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >I set up a form in Acrobat and included a button for faculty on >campus to automatically e-mail the completed form to our office. I >had intended the e-mail feature to be available to anyone on >campus with only Acrobat Reader and no way to save the completed >form. Now I have discovered that Reader doesn't support the e-mail >Java script!Any way around this problem? Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Jan-2001 22:57:00-GMT,2712;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07217 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:56:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15028; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:56:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:47:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14522; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:47:35 -0600 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14518 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:47:34 -0600 From: geojohn@att.net Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.135.42]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20010131224733.NKBP6630.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:47:33 +0000 Received: from [208.7.52.22] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:47:33 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFmarks gotodestination Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:47:33 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 14 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: geojohn@att.net Message-Id: <20010131224733.NKBP6630.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ > Following excellent help from this list some while > back I have implemented dozens of pdfmark destinations > with spaces in the destination names accessed from > drop down menus. Now that I come to add a few "go to > destination" pdfmarks I can't figure out the syntax for > these if the destination has a space or spaces in the > name. Can anyone tell how to do this? I'm a bit confused by the question. Are you saying that you forgot how to set up the correct pdfmark to create a named destination with a space, or are you trying to use pdfmarks to create link to named destinations that contain spaces? George Receive the latest PDF News in your Inbox. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------