From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 1 21:34:38 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06600 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 06:52:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id IAA04259 for pdftex-outgoing; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 08:47:13 -0400 Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id IAA04255 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 08:47:08 -0400 Received: from lennox.dcs.ed.ac.uk (da@dialup-75.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.75]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA14459 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:36:39 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:36:39 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199708311236.NAA14459@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Aspinall To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Please ignore my message about Bakoma-AMS fonts X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Double apologies for this. Of course, it didn't answer the question (teTeX 0.9 does not have Bakoma AMS fonts configured), and I shouldn't have sent the tar file to the whole list. Next time I'll keep my mouth shut! - David. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 1 21:34:40 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16584 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 09:34:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA04432 for pdftex-outgoing; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 11:28:21 -0400 Received: from math.mit.edu (MATH.MIT.EDU [18.87.0.8]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id LAA04428 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 11:28:17 -0400 Received: from kovalevskaya (KOVALEVSKAYA.MIT.EDU [18.87.0.53]) by math.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA00534 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 11:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 11:17:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard B. Melrose" X-Sender: rbm@kovalevskaya To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Please ignore my message about Bakoma-AMS fonts In-Reply-To: <199708311236.NAA14459@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu On Sun, 31 Aug 1997, David Aspinall wrote: > Double apologies for this. Of course, it didn't answer the question > (teTeX 0.9 does not have Bakoma AMS fonts configured), and I shouldn't > have sent the tar file to the whole list. Next time I'll keep my > mouth shut! > > - David. > > > Thanks anyway David. Bob Howlett (thank you for the good work) sent hand-encoded `amssym?.enc' files for the msa* and msb* parts of Bakoma (i.e. type1 versions of the `special' ams fonts). These seem to work nicely! Here are typical examples of lines I added to pdftex.map euex10 euex10 4 ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 04:41:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA04124 for pdftex-outgoing; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 06:33:41 -0400 Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.3]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id GAA04120 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 06:33:17 -0400 Received: from lennox.dcs.ed.ac.uk (dialup-68.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.68]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA21323 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 11:22:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 11:22:26 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199708311022.LAA21323@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Aspinall To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Bakoma-AMS fonts In-Reply-To: References: <199707112314.TAA23244@angmar.hopewell.ny.us> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > Any advice as to how to make these (ideally of course where to find them) > or even comments on the degree of difficulty would be appreciated. The teTeX 0.9 pre-release has all this configured. You can find it at: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-hannover.de/home/te/private/.0.9 I'm sending you a tar of texmf/pdftex from the teTeX 0.9 texmf tree. It seems to work pretty well, although there's a couple of entries missing from pdftex.map (LINEW and something else). I added them when pdftex complained and things went fine. Hope this helps, - David. ---- David Aspinall, email: David.Aspinall@dcs.ed.ac.uk Department of Computer Science, URL: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/da University of Edinburgh, Tel: +44 131 650 5199 Edinburgh EH9 3JZ, Scotland. 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The teTeX 0.9 pre-release has all this configured. You can find it at: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-hannover.de/home/te/private/.0.9 I'm sending you a tar of texmf/pdftex from the teTeX 0.9 texmf tree. It seems to work pretty well, although there's a couple of entries missing from pdftex.map (LINEW and something else). I added them when pdftex complained and things went fine. Hope this helps, - David. ---- David Aspinall, email: David.Aspinall@dcs.ed.ac.uk Department of Computer Science, URL: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/da University of Edinburgh, Tel: +44 131 650 5199 Edinburgh EH9 3JZ, Scotland. 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Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu I'm surprised there's no word from Thanh in re \mag: perhaps he's not yet back in Brno. Here's a summary of earlier discussions on the subject. ** Phil. -------- From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199705121354.PAA11757@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: \mag and pdftex To: CHAA006@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk (Philip Taylor) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:54:50 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Phil, I've posted a question about \mag to pdftex, but I've got no answer. So I'll need a litle advising from you on this question. There is a problem with use \mag and \pdfoutput at once. At the moment \mag takes no effect on PDF output >From pdftex, what is not the best. It is easy to add scaling at the very top of each page description, but there are a lot of problem with annotations, destinations and so on. So I'd prohibit use of \mag when \pdfoutput is set. What do you think of it? Regards, Thanh From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199705121430.QAA14871@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: \mag and pdftex In-Reply-To: <970512150821.6e9c@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk> from Philip Taylor at "May 12, 97 03:08:21 pm" To: P.Taylor@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:30:42 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I can envisage the problem, but I think the solution is ugly; > (definitely sub-optimal). Bearing in mind Bernd's comment on the need > to retain TeX--XeT within e-TeX2pdf, I feel there is an even greater need > to retain all of the standard TeX primitives. The further you diverge > from TeX, the harder it will be to persuade people to use TeX2pdf. > On the other hand, LaTeX has already disbarred the use of \mag, so you > won't risk disenfranchising the LaTeX people... Can you tell me in > greater detail exactly what problems the use of \mag might cause? The main problem when one uses \mag with \pdfoutput is that all annonations and destination won't be displayed correctly; calculating for these structures is done with assuming that they are absolute. Another problem comes with graphic transformations via \pdfliteral and image conclusion. In fact, there is possible to get it work correctly. But I want to be sure that it is worth to do it, because it'll take much time and work. Thanh From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199705121511.RAA18063@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: \mag and pdftex In-Reply-To: <970512155638.6e9c@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk> from Philip Taylor at "May 12, 97 03:56:38 pm" To: P.Taylor@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:11:07 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > OK, but what does this mean in practice: is it the case that one can > specify a dimension for annotation and/or destination using a TeX > unit (e.g. cm, in, sp) without specifying "true", yet it is interpreted > as if "true" were present? If so, then I really do feel that that could > be comnsidered a mistake. Uf, I see. that's the next thing to do in next release :-)) Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 1 21:42:07 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (root@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA01485 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 21:42:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id NAA04622 for pdftex-outgoing; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:05:15 -0400 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA04618 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:05:03 -0400 Received: from alisan.ibm.net (uri@slip129-37-122-117.mo.us.ibm.net [129.37.122.117]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA75458 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:54:36 GMT Received: (from uri@localhost) by alisan.ibm.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id MAA13448; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 12:54:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 12:54:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199708311654.MAA13448@alisan.ibm.net> From: Uri Blumenthal To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Please ignore my message about Bakoma-AMS fonts In-Reply-To: References: <199708311236.NAA14459@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Would you mind e-mailing those hand-encoded amssym?.enc files to me, or better yet, putting them on an FTP site? I guess plenty of people here use BaKoMa (at least the AMS part of the font set :-) and could really benefit >From those files. Regards, Uri -=-=-==-=-=- uri@ibm.net From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 1 21:42:10 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (root@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA01493 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 21:42:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id MAA04519 for pdftex-outgoing; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 12:12:56 -0400 Received: from math.mit.edu (MATH.MIT.EDU [18.87.0.8]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA04515 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 12:12:49 -0400 Received: from kovalevskaya (KOVALEVSKAYA.MIT.EDU [18.87.0.53]) by math.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA00961 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 12:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 12:02:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard B. Melrose" X-Sender: rbm@kovalevskaya To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Please ignore my message about Bakoma-AMS fonts (again) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Something truncated my previous message -- presumable the presence of `.' at the beginning of a line. Here is is again for what it is worth. Richard Melrose ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 11:17:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard B. Melrose" To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Please ignore my message about Bakoma-AMS fonts On Sun, 31 Aug 1997, David Aspinall wrote: > Double apologies for this. Of course, it didn't answer the question > (teTeX 0.9 does not have Bakoma AMS fonts configured), and I shouldn't > have sent the tar file to the whole list. Next time I'll keep my > mouth shut! > > - David. > > > Thanks anyway David. Bob Howlett (thank you for the good work) sent hand-encoded `amssym?.enc' files for the msa* and msb* parts of Bakoma (i.e. type1 versions of the `special' ams fonts). These seem to work nicely! Here are typical examples of lines I added to pdftex.map (no #'s) # euex10 euex10 4 ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 03:58:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA06194 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 06:02:27 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU [129.78.64.4]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id GAA06190 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 06:02:15 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-13-61.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.58.185]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA21576 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 19:51:43 +1000 Message-ID: <340BE1E6.1B740574@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 19:52:38 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Bakoma fonts References: <199708311236.NAA14459@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> <199708311654.MAA13448@alisan.ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Uri Blumenthal wrote: > > Would you mind e-mailing those hand-encoded amssym?.enc > files to me, or better yet, putting them on an FTP site? > I have put links to the files I made on my web page http://www.maths.edu.au:8000/u/bobh/ but be warned that I do not really understand this stuff very well, and I could have got things wrong! I have now done the same for the Euler fonts, but I haven't tested anything. Bob Howlett From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 2 04:18:25 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10459 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 04:18:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA06251 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 06:13:30 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU [129.78.64.4]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id GAA06247 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 06:13:25 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-13-61.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.58.185]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA24178 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 20:02:56 +1000 Message-ID: <340BE487.AA29E8D3@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 20:03:51 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: \magnification (continued..) References: <970901154205.6aed@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Philip Taylor (RHBNC) wrote: > > I'm surprised there's no word from Thanh in re \mag: > perhaps he's not yet back in Brno. Here's a summary > of earlier discussions on the subject. ** Phil. > -------- > ... > ... Thanks for reposting that earlier discussion. I would like to be able to browse all earlier discussions, but I do not know where to find them. I would certainly vote strongly for the enabling of all TeX's primitives in pdftex. I've got lots of old tex files that I might want to convert to pdf without having to do lots of work on them! From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 2 04:44:09 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10867 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 04:44:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA06337 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 06:49:51 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU [129.78.64.4]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id GAA06333 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 06:49:45 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-13-61.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.58.185]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA02464 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 20:39:08 +1000 Message-ID: <340BED03.A4FC0861@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 20:40:03 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: 2 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu I've now obtained the PDF manual (link on the Adobe Acrobat page) and so I'm starting to understand a little more. I thought it would be nice to have link annotations underlined rather than in boxes as they are in example.tex. Looking at section 6.6 of the PDF manual it seemed to me that it should be possible to do this with the BS (Border Style) key instead of the Border key. i.e. replace the /Border [0 0 2] as in example.tex with something like /BS <> I tried this and the /BS <> found its way into the pdf file OK, but it idn't have the desired effect. Maybe I've messed up the syntax or misunderstood something else. Or maybe the Acrobat reader doesn't work the way it should. Any ideas anyone? Next question (unrelated): I made some pdf files that I was happy with and so I ftp'd them to the appropriate place and put links to them on my web page. When I viewed them from a PC at work (where I have an ethernet connection to the compute on which I'd placed the files) they looked just fine. But when I look at them from home, using a dial-up connection, some of the characters do not display correctly. It appears that the files get corrupted in the http transfer process. Indeed, I discovered that if I made a pdf file at home ftp'd it to work, and downloaded it again via Netscape, then an extra character made its way into the file. (An "FF" --i.e. character no. 255, in fact.) I've tried using pfa font files instead of pfb, using pdfcompresslevel=0 or pdfcompresslevel=9, and always the same problem seems to arise. Microsoft Internet Explorer and Netscape both yield the same results. Yet when viewed at work things are OK; so I do not think the files themselves are corrupted, they just don't transfer properly. I am totally baffled. The PDF manual (section 2.3.2) says "... where it is possible to label PDF files as "binary" we recommend that this be done. One method for encouraging such treatment is to include a few binary characters (codes greater than 127) in a comment near the beginning of the file ...". Noting that pdftex doesn't do this, I attempted to physically insert such a comment into my pdf file, in case netscape was treating it as ascii instead of binary. But it made no difference. Has anyone else encountered such problems? Bob Howlett From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 2 06:59:53 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13283 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 06:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id IAA06619 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:35:11 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id IAA06615 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:35:05 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04698 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:24:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:21:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 13:21:40 +0100 Message-ID: <8594-Tue02Sep1997132140+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: 2 problems In-Reply-To: <340BED03.A4FC0861@mail.usyd.edu.au> References: <340BED03.A4FC0861@mail.usyd.edu.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > /Border [0 0 2] > as in example.tex with something like > /BS <> > I tried this and the /BS <> found its way into the pdf > file OK, but it idn't have the desired effect. Maybe I've messed > up the syntax or misunderstood something else. Or maybe the > Acrobat reader doesn't work the way it should. Any ideas anyone? Only to say that I played with this for some time, and didn't get any further than you. my feeling is that Reader does not actually obey its documentation :-} > ftp'd it to work, and downloaded it again via Netscape, then > an extra character made its way into the file. (An "FF" --i.e. > character no. 255, in fact.) I've tried using pfa font files bizarre. wish I could help, but I havent met that problem downloading pdf files via Netscape Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 2 07:15:29 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13649 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:15:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id JAA06723 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:11:46 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU [129.78.64.4]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id JAA06719 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:11:40 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-13-61.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.58.185]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA21714 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 23:01:12 +1000 Message-ID: <340C0E51.E309DD22@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 23:02:09 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: 2 problems References: <340BED03.A4FC0861@mail.usyd.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Robert Howlett wrote: > I made some pdf files that I was happy with and so I ftp'd them > to the appropriate place and put links to them on my web page. > When I viewed them from a PC at work (where I have an ethernet > connection to the compute on which I'd placed the files) they > looked just fine. But when I look at them from home, using a > dial-up connection, some of the characters do not display correctly. > It appears that the files get corrupted in the http transfer > process. Sorry, I've now realized that this must be a problem with the server on which my web page resides. I put the files on another server and no problem occurred. Bob Howlett From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 2 07:42:41 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14313 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:42:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id JAA06874 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:41:19 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id JAA06868 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:41:08 -0400 Received: from default (zl17.pi.net [145.220.204.17]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA01459; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:30:31 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:30:31 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <340C004E.6B93@pi.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 14:02:22 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: 2 problems References: <340BED03.A4FC0861@mail.usyd.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Robert Howlett wrote: > I thought it would be nice to have link annotations underlined > rather than in boxes as they are in example.tex. Looking at > section 6.6 of the PDF manual it seemed to me that it should > be possible to do this with the BS (Border Style) key instead > of the Border key. i.e. replace the Just let TeX do the job (something \underline). > I made some pdf files that I was happy with and so I ftp'd them > to the appropriate place and put links to them on my web page. > When I viewed them from a PC at work (where I have an ethernet > connection to the compute on which I'd placed the files) they > looked just fine. But when I look at them from home, using a > dial-up connection, some of the characters do not display correctly. Do you use similar encodings? > It appears that the files get corrupted in the http transfer > process. Indeed, I discovered that if I made a pdf file at home > ftp'd it to work, and downloaded it again via Netscape, then > an extra character made its way into the file. (An "FF" --i.e. > character no. 255, in fact.) I've tried using pfa font files If during the downloading characters get added, the whole pdf file will be spoiled, because all positions are hard coded in the file! > instead of pfb, using pdfcompresslevel=0 or pdfcompresslevel=9, > and always the same problem seems to arise. Microsoft Internet > Explorer and Netscape both yield the same results. Yet when viewed > at work things are OK; so I do not think the files themselves > are corrupted, they just don't transfer properly. I am totally > baffled. I'm not sure, but does pdftex output 7 bit ascii? In Distiller this is one mode of operation. Does the same problem occur with Distiller produced files? > The PDF manual (section 2.3.2) says "... where it is possible > to label PDF files as "binary" we recommend that this be done. > One method for encouraging such treatment is to include a few > binary characters (codes greater than 127) in a comment near > the beginning of the file ...". Noting that pdftex doesn't do > this, I attempted to physically insert such a comment into > my pdf file, in case netscape was treating it as ascii instead > of binary. But it made no difference. I'm surprised that after adding some characters, your file still worked. > Has anyone else encountered such problems? At the moment (as far as I know) the only severe problems are: (1) in the annotation part; this problem can lead to corrupt pdf files but is already traced down and will be solved as soon as Thanh is back (2) in page annotations (an zero offset problem), not harmful, only errorous (3) accumulating inaccuracy, leading to small but visible displacements, the source of which is known and will be solved soon (4) some font problems, but these also occur local (i.e. not www transfer related) (5) incorrect \magstep handling, which is not that disturbing, but probably will be solved (6) probably some more Anyway, try Reader 3.01, which is more stable. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 2 07:51:32 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14536 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:51:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id JAA06877 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:41:24 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id JAA06872 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:41:14 -0400 Received: from default (zl17.pi.net [145.220.204.17]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA01486; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:30:34 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:30:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <340C0114.43ED@pi.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 14:05:40 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: \magnification (continued..) References: <970901154205.6aed@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk> <340BE487.AA29E8D3@mail.usyd.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Robert Howlett wrote: > Thanks for reposting that earlier discussion. I would > like to be able to browse all earlier discussions, but > I do not know where to find them. > > I would certainly vote strongly for the enabling of all > TeX's primitives in pdftex. I've got lots of old tex files > that I might want to convert to pdf without having to do > lots of work on them! Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of primitives being disabled (that is, when we consider the \magstep a bug). Of course there is \special that needs a different treatment because in pdftex we do a one-step generation. But that kind of support is normally hidden for users and up to package writers. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 2 08:27:17 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15298 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:27:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id KAA07067 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:24:28 -0400 Received: from mailhost.lanl.gov (mailhost.lanl.gov [128.165.3.12]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id KAA07063 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:24:24 -0400 Received: from qcd.lanl.gov (qcd.lanl.gov [128.165.23.46]) by mailhost.lanl.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA15306 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:13:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qcd.lanl.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA09809; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:08:39 -0600 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:08:39 -0600 Message-Id: <199709021408.IAA09809@qcd.lanl.gov> From: Tanmoy Bhattacharya To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: 2 problems In-Reply-To: <8594-Tue02Sep1997132140+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> References: <340BED03.A4FC0861@mail.usyd.edu.au> <8594-Tue02Sep1997132140+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu In <8594-Tue02Sep1997132140+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> dated 13:21:40 +0100 Tue September 2, 1997, Sebastian Rahtz writes > > ftp'd it to work, and downloaded it again via Netscape, then > > an extra character made its way into the file. (An "FF" --i.e. > > character no. 255, in fact.) I've tried using pfa font files > bizarre. wish I could help, but I havent met that problem downloading > pdf files via Netscape Common problem with programs written by people who decided knowing high-school pascal was sufficient to start coding in C :-( When a file ends, a read from the stream returns a negative integer which is often -1 and when interpreted as a character becomes FF on 8 bit (usually two's complement) machines. I was quite familiar with the y-diersis occasionally appearing at the end of my files when I was in France ... To my knowledge Netscape does not have this problem. But I have seen it before, I believe in some server in common use a few years back. But the original poster's problem of not being able to view the file on a different platform does not sound to be related to an extra character at the end of the file! Such a character does make the PDF file invalid, but it usually either makes the file completely unparseable or has no effect, depending on the viewer. Adobe viewers, however, rarely follow their own specs; or else the specs are careful to state that viewers on certain platforms or certain versions of the viewers do not obey certain aspects of the specs. It is becoming increasingly common for bugs in an alpha software to be marketed as features of a finished product. Cheers Tanmoy From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Wed Sep 3 00:41:02 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA11666 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 00:41:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id CAA08446 for pdftex-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:45:28 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id CAA08442 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:45:20 -0400 Received: from default (zl34.pi.net [145.220.204.34]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA26557; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:34:50 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:34:50 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <340C371F.5D97@pi.net> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 17:56:15 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: 2 problems References: <340BED03.A4FC0861@mail.usyd.edu.au> <8594-Tue02Sep1997132140+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > /Border [0 0 2] > > as in example.tex with something like > > /BS <> > > I tried this and the /BS <> found its way into the pdf > > file OK, but it idn't have the desired effect. Maybe I've messed > > up the syntax or misunderstood something else. Or maybe the > > Acrobat reader doesn't work the way it should. Any ideas anyone? > Only to say that I played with this for some time, and didn't get any > further than you. my feeling is that Reader does not actually obey its > documentation :-} I don't have the manual at hand, but the problem with this kind of tuning is that sometimes arguments are passed directly and sometimes as something nested in dictionaries or even separate objects. Furthermore some features are viewer dependant. It's very dangerous to trust this kind of extensions, that's why I let TeX do these things. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Wed Sep 3 03:57:45 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15180 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 03:57:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA08757 for pdftex-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 05:59:44 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU [129.78.64.4]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id FAA08753 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 05:59:38 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-8-2.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.57.64]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA17330 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:49:01 +1000 Message-ID: <340D32CA.FE080752@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 19:50:02 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: My problem solved. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thank you to all who volunteered thoughts on the problem I encountered viewing my on-line pdf documents. It was, as I should have realized sooner, a problem with our server at the University of Sydney Maths Dept. Our system manager has fixed it now. (He told me "I found the bug. It was deep in the C code of the NCSA httpd Web server we use. Under unusual circumstances, it was miscounting the number of characters it had to copy ... It's amazing that no one has picked this up before.") It did surprise me that the viewer managed to display the document correctly apart from one font -- but the file was only one character longer than it was meant to be. Bob Howlett From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Wed Sep 3 04:04:31 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15308 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 04:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA08792 for pdftex-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:10:36 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU [129.78.64.4]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id GAA08788 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:10:27 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-8-2.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.57.64]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA19599 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 19:59:54 +1000 Message-ID: <340D3557.409BF77B@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 20:00:55 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: \magnification (continued..)] References: <340CDF28.2781@maths.usyd.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Hans Hagen wrote > > I would certainly vote strongly for the enabling of all > > TeX's primitives in pdftex. I've got lots of old tex files > > that I might want to convert to pdf without having to do > > lots of work on them! > > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of primitives being > disabled (that is, when we consider the \magstep a bug). Of course > there is \special that needs a different treatment ... Sorry, I was just referring to a comment from Thanh (from a long time ago) that he was contemplating prohibiting the use of \mag in conjunction with \pdfoutput. I would like him to try to implement it. But I can appreciate that it may be difficult to do so, and I do think that pdftex is wonderful as it is. Bob Howlett From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Wed Sep 3 07:24:44 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18792 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:24:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id JAA09065 for pdftex-outgoing; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:30:19 -0400 Received: from berlin.netsurf.de (berlin.netsurf.de [194.64.15.4]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id JAA09061 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:30:14 -0400 Received: by berlin.netsurf.de (Smail3.2.0.96) from berlin.netsurf.de (194.64.158.71) with esmtp id ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:19:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <340D5C50.9E72BD00@berlin.netsurf.de> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 14:47:12 +0200 From: Tobias Burnus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFTeX Mailing List Subject: MetaPost, GS and EPS->PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Hello, MetaPost files with fancy penshapes come out quite large using ps2pdf of GhostScript 5.03 (or earlier). This is due to that pdfwrite (of GS) converts 'stroke' operations to a sequence of 'fill's if the CTM scales the two coordinate axes differently, or contains any skew. This problem will be removed in the upcoming GS 5.04 (not avaible yet). Example a 4623 bytes EPS file (created with MP) converts to a 3600-byte PDF file, *without* the Acrobat 3.x compression (GS 5.04) instead of approx. 30 000 bytes (GS 5.03). (Peter Deutsch) And here is another goody for MP users: > Now we can hook MetaPost into TeX (actually Sebastian Tannert is going to > combine both programs!) and get all kind of backgrounds! (This is already > possible, although undocumented, but the size of the files was a nuisance. (Hans Hagen) Tobias :-) ________________________________________________________________________ Tobias Burnus email: Tobias Burnus Troppauer Str. 15 Accepting/Akzeptiere HTML mail D-12205 Berlin Verwende auch/Supporting PGP Germany/Deutschland/Allemagne Tel+Fax: +49-(0)30-8118029 ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 8 12:38:32 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11614 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 12:38:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id OAA14363 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 14:37:24 -0400 Received: from mailer.jhuapl.edu (mailer.jhuapl.edu [128.244.198.31]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id OAA14359 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 14:37:16 -0400 Received: from aplcomm.jhuapl.edu by mailer.jhuapl.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA10821; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 14:26:20 -0400 Received: by aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA09228; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 14:26:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 14:26:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Skip Collins To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Equal width rules In-Reply-To: <199703172113.QAA03428@tug.cs.umb.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Are there any pdftex tricks for producing a pdf file where lines of equal thickness appear equally thick on low res output devices such as the Acrobat Reader window? Skip Collins From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 8 22:23:24 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24544 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 22:23:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id AAA14820 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 00:28:11 -0400 Received: from ns.connext.net (connext.net [207.42.196.2]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id AAA14816 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 00:28:04 -0400 Received: from pp229.connext.net (pp229.connext.net [207.42.196.229]) by ns.connext.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05048 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 00:17:54 -0400 (EDT) From: jeffmac@connext.net (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: PDF Security Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 04:06:17 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <3419cab6.19264178@mail.connext.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.cs.umb.edu id AAA14817 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu In my brief examination of PDFTeX I did not find any mention of security. Can you set up the security options with PDFTeX. Currently we have to use Adobe Exchange to secure PDF's for our clients. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 8 23:18:21 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA25580 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 23:18:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id BAA14930 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:25:05 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A.crl.com [165.113.1.65]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id BAA14925 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:25:01 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A116023.stl1.as.crl.com [168.75.116.23]) by a.crl.com (8.8.6/) via ESMTP id WAA10311 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 22:09:48 -0700 (PDT) env-from (weiqigao@a.crl.com) Message-ID: <3414DC1F.CAD5BACA@a.crl.com> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 00:18:23 -0500 From: Weiqi Gao Organization: Spectrum Healthcare Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: pdftex installation. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Hi, I have a couple of questions regarding pdftex: 1. I downloaded the Win32 binaries of pdftex, and it essentially contains three files: pdftex.exe, pdftex.pool and texmf.cnf. I'm just wondering if someone can give me some installation instructions. 2. I also downloaded the source of pdftex. Since I'm using the DJGPP port of TeX on Windows 95, the configure script isn't entirely useful. I'm just wondering if someone can give me some insight into how to compile the sources by hand. -- Weiqi Gao weiqigao@a.crl.com From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 9 01:08:58 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27749 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:08:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id DAA15065 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 03:15:56 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id DAA15060 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 03:15:49 -0400 Received: from default (zl52.pi.net [145.220.204.52]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA20716; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:05:15 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:05:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3414F00E.69FD@pi.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 08:43:26 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: PDF Security References: <3419cab6.19264178@mail.connext.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Jeffrey McArthur wrote: > In my brief examination of PDFTeX I did not find any mention of > security. Can you set up the security options with PDFTeX. Currently > we have to use Adobe Exchange to secure PDF's for our clients. Security is part of the standard and therefore can (probably) be supported by pdftex. Because these things are very application dependant (and can not easily be generalized, security should not be handled by low level pdf primitives). Optimization is a exchange job anyway. Nevertheless, when Than's back, I'll look into it. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 9 01:08:58 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27749 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:08:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id DAA15065 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 03:15:56 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id DAA15060 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 03:15:49 -0400 Received: from default (zl52.pi.net [145.220.204.52]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA20716; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:05:15 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:05:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3414F00E.69FD@pi.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 08:43:26 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: PDF Security References: <3419cab6.19264178@mail.connext.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Jeffrey McArthur wrote: > In my brief examination of PDFTeX I did not find any mention of > security. Can you set up the security options with PDFTeX. Currently > we have to use Adobe Exchange to secure PDF's for our clients. Security is part of the standard and therefore can (probably) be supported by pdftex. Because these things are very application dependant (and can not easily be generalized, security should not be handled by low level pdf primitives). Optimization is a exchange job anyway. Nevertheless, when Than's back, I'll look into it. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 9 01:09:14 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27758 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:09:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id DAA15061 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 03:15:51 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id DAA15055 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 03:15:45 -0400 Received: from default (zl52.pi.net [145.220.204.52]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA20693; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:05:13 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:05:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3414EF23.4A14@pi.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 08:39:31 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: Equal width rules References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Skip Collins wrote: > Are there any pdftex tricks for producing a pdf file where lines of equal > thickness appear equally thick on low res output devices such as the > Acrobat Reader window? The problem of viewing lines with 'wrong' thickness is there since version 1. One way of improving things is to let the ps code (when going from ps to pdf) snap on the device grid. Unfortunately the pdf reader grid is rather low res (as far as I know). Part of the problem can lay in the accuracy of the positioning, especially when defining pdfmarks one has to be precise. The main problem is however the viewing engine. For abscure reasons Acrobar Reader is often (more than) oe pixel wrong is cases where on would not expect that. The same problem occurs with glyph positioning! Did you compare the Reader with GSView? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 9 02:58:19 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA00005 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 02:58:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA15270 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 05:04:36 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA15266 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 05:04:27 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16898 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:53:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:53:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:47:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4860-Tue09Sep1997094714+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: pdftex installation. In-Reply-To: <3414DC1F.CAD5BACA@a.crl.com> References: <3414DC1F.CAD5BACA@a.crl.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > 1. I downloaded the Win32 binaries of pdftex, and it essentially > contains three files: pdftex.exe, pdftex.pool and texmf.cnf. I'm just > wondering if someone can give me some installation instructions. you need the rest of the web2cwin32 stuff; you cant just use those binaries. unfortunately ftp.ese-metz.fr seems to be dead, does anyone have contact with Fabrice > 2. I also downloaded the source of pdftex. Since I'm using the DJGPP > port of TeX on Windows 95, the configure script isn't entirely useful. > I'm just wondering if someone can give me some insight into how to > compile the sources by hand. I'd say, don't even try at this stage; Fabrice uses Visual C++, and i think that doing it with djgpp is going to be non-trivial. depends how hard you want to work... Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 9 03:33:25 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00639 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 03:33:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA15351 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 05:38:15 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (esemetz.ese-metz.fr [192.70.65.1]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA15346 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 05:38:02 -0400 Received: from NEUROMANCER.ese-metz.fr (neuromancer.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.95]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.7.1/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA28846; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:25:25 +0200 (MET DST) To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Cc: texk-win32@ese-metz.fr Subject: Re: pdftex installation. References: <3414DC1F.CAD5BACA@a.crl.com> <4860-Tue09Sep1997094714+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Emacs: 19.34 Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI MIME-Edit 0.75) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Fabrice POPINEAU Date: 09 Sep 1997 11:26:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk's message of "Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:47:14 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 28 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.65/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu >>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rahtz writes: >> 1. I downloaded the Win32 binaries of pdftex, and it >> essentially contains three files: pdftex.exe, pdftex.pool and >> texmf.cnf. I'm just wondering if someone can give me some >> installation instructions. Sebastian> you need the rest of the web2cwin32 stuff; you cant Sebastian> just use those binaries. unfortunately ftp.ese-metz.fr Sebastian> seems to be dead, does anyone have contact with Fabrice Unfortunately, this server is dead. At least the TeX win32 stuff as disappeared on it (2 disks have no more power supply). I also had a hard time before and during my holydays, with my new machines at home and at work. I hope eveything will be back to normal before the end of this week. I have only recently begun to work again on web2c (and on xdvi). I think there will be a new release at the end of next week (with a first try install program, dvips 5.74, lots of small bugs corrected). Can somebody tell me if there is something wrong with the beta version of pdftex found on ftp.muni.cz ? Should I come back to the one from May,11th ? Also, I hope that CTAN maintainers will agree to mirror the stuff that was on ftp.ese-metz.fr. Fabrice From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 9 04:52:13 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02011 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 04:52:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA15459 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 06:43:51 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id GAA15455 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 06:43:46 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20773 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:32:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:32:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:29:45 +0100 Message-ID: <3744-Tue09Sep1997112945+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu, texk-win32@ese-metz.fr Subject: Re: pdftex installation. In-Reply-To: References: <3414DC1F.CAD5BACA@a.crl.com> <4860-Tue09Sep1997094714+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fabrice POPINEAU writes: > before the end of this week. I have only recently begun to work again > on web2c (and on xdvi). I think there will be a new release at the end > of next week (with a first try install program, dvips 5.74, lots of > small bugs corrected). i am very glad you are doing dvips, i was starting to think of having a hack myself.... i have just rerun the entire LaTeX Graphics Companion with web2cwin32 under NT (its being reprinted this month), am glad to say it behaved impeccably. > Also, I hope that CTAN maintainers will agree to mirror the stuff that > was on ftp.ese-metz.fr. > no problem. let us know (I am a CTAN person) when you want a mirror to start and from where. sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Wed Sep 10 09:54:35 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08865 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:54:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA16658 for pdftex-outgoing; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:58:44 -0400 Received: from irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de (irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de [130.75.135.94]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id LAA16654 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:58:35 -0400 Received: from irtst39.irt.uni-hannover.de by irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA246436633; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:50:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:50:33 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970910175212.1a7f7cd0@irtms> X-Sender: kopmann@irtms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu From: Andreas Kopmann Subject: Compression does not work? Cc: kopmann@irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Hi, I want to use pdflatex with the hyperref-macro. If a compression other than zero is specified the compilation is ended with a severe error in the module zlib.dll (Version 1.04). Is it possible to compile pdf's with compression? Andreas Kopmann Andreas Kopmann Institut fuer Regelungstechnik kopmann@irt.uni-hannover.de Appelstr. 11, 30167 Hannover From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Wed Sep 10 15:59:44 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17596 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:59:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id SAA17073 for pdftex-outgoing; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:06:37 -0400 Received: from siddharta.omedia.ch (root@siddharta.omedia.ch [194.235.12.2]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id SAA17069 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:06:28 -0400 Received: from omedia.ch (ppp46.omedia.ch [194.235.12.46]) by siddharta.omedia.ch (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA26849 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:55:08 +0200 Message-ID: <34172A03.A7594145@omedia.ch> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:50:15 -0025 From: Pasa Guglielmo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? References: <1.5.4.16.19970910175212.1a7f7cd0@irtms> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sure! Just put \pdfcompresslevel=9 % for maximal compression, the range is 0--9 it works for me at least! Andreas Kopmann wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to use pdflatex with the hyperref-macro. If a compression other than > zero is specified the compilation is ended with a severe error in the module > zlib.dll (Version 1.04). > > Is it possible to compile pdf's with compression? > > Andreas Kopmann > Andreas Kopmann Institut fuer Regelungstechnik > kopmann@irt.uni-hannover.de Appelstr. 11, 30167 Hannover -- Sincerely yours, Pasa Guglielmo ------------------------------------------------------------------ ¦ homepage: http://www.omedia.ch/pages/gpasa/ ¦ ¦----------------------------------------------------------------¦ ¦ e-mail : gpasa@omedia.ch ¦ tel. : +41 (0)24 485 50 40 ¦ ¦ mailing : Pasa Guglielmo ¦ fax : +41 (0)24 485 50 44 ¦ ¦ Rte des Cases 17A ¦ ¦ ¦ CH-1890 St-Maurice ¦ prof.: physicist ¦ ¦ (Switzerland) ¦ ¦ ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 11 01:04:49 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA28824 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 01:04:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id DAA17468 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 03:11:28 -0400 Received: from irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de (irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de [130.75.135.94]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id DAA17464 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 03:11:23 -0400 Received: from irtst39.irt.uni-hannover.de by irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA249841404; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:03:25 +0200 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:03:25 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970911090504.28277ef4@irtms> X-Sender: kopmann@irtms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu From: Andreas Kopmann Subject: Re: Compression does not work? Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu At 23:50 10.09.1997 -0025, you wrote: >Sure! >Just put > >\pdfcompresslevel=9 % for maximal compression, the range is 0--9 > >it works for me at least! That just the thing I did - without success (works only with \pdfcompresslevel=0). Is it possible that I have a incompatible zlib.dll file ?! Andreas Kopmann Institut fuer Regelungstechnik kopmann@irt.uni-hannover.de Appelstr. 11, 30167 Hannover From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 11 03:07:39 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01191 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 03:07:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA17593 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 05:13:38 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA17589 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 05:13:34 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07841 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:02:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:02:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:32:02 +0100 Message-ID: <5159-Thu11Sep1997093202+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Cc: kopmann@irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19970910175212.1a7f7cd0@irtms> References: <1.5.4.16.19970910175212.1a7f7cd0@irtms> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu hyperref's pdftex.cfg says \pdfoutput=9 anyway, and yes, it has always worked for me Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 11 03:38:33 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01741 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 03:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA17676 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 05:43:55 -0400 Received: from siddharta.omedia.ch (root@siddharta.omedia.ch [194.235.12.2]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA17671 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 05:43:50 -0400 Received: from omedia.ch (ppp44.omedia.ch [194.235.12.44]) by siddharta.omedia.ch (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA03456 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:32:35 +0200 Message-ID: <3417CD7A.1823655A@omedia.ch> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:27:42 -0025 From: Pasa Guglielmo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? References: <1.5.4.16.19970911090504.28277ef4@irtms> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu I don't know wether you can use hyperref with PDFLaTeX because there are already link structures in PDF(La)TeX as you can see in the file example.tex. Anyway when I load hyperref it compile fine (I have some problem with pdfcolor seemingly) but I don't get the links. Andreas Kopmann wrote: > > At 23:50 10.09.1997 -0025, you wrote: > >Sure! > >Just put > > > >\pdfcompresslevel=9 % for maximal compression, the range is 0--9 > > > >it works for me at least! > > That just the thing I did - without success (works only with > \pdfcompresslevel=0). Is it possible that I have a incompatible zlib.dll file ?! > > Andreas Kopmann Institut fuer Regelungstechnik > kopmann@irt.uni-hannover.de Appelstr. 11, 30167 Hannover -- Sincerely yours, Pasa Guglielmo ------------------------------------------------------------------ ¦ homepage: http://www.omedia.ch/pages/gpasa/ ¦ ¦----------------------------------------------------------------¦ ¦ e-mail : gpasa@omedia.ch ¦ tel. : +41 (0)24 485 50 40 ¦ ¦ mailing : Pasa Guglielmo ¦ fax : +41 (0)24 485 50 44 ¦ ¦ Rte des Cases 17A ¦ ¦ ¦ CH-1890 St-Maurice ¦ prof.: physicist ¦ ¦ (Switzerland) ¦ ¦ ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 11 03:47:55 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01897 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 03:47:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA17734 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 05:54:12 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA17730 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 05:54:03 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA25099 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:43:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA27724; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:46:55 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:46:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199709110946.LAA27724@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: <5159-Thu11Sep1997093202+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> References: <1.5.4.16.19970910175212.1a7f7cd0@irtms> <5159-Thu11Sep1997093202+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Concernant « Re: Compression does not work? », Sebastian Rahtz écrit : > hyperref's pdftex.cfg says \pdfoutput=9 anyway, and yes, it has always > worked for me > > Sebastian > > idem for me (but the reference to zlib.dll implies a win32 version?) in fact i compiled some times ago a document with many scanned images (converted to PNG using GNU ImageMagick/mogrify [an occasion to tell here that it handles correctly higher resolutions]), the resulting PDF was either 32Mb compiled in a few seconds (\pdfcompresslevel=0) or 3Mb compiled in 30 minutes (\pdfcompresslevel=9). What was nice was that acrobat was able to make a 4Mb PS file in both cases (using LZW filters) whereas dvips' PS was huge. Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/ From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 11 04:18:07 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02418 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:18:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA17825 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 06:15:06 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id GAA17818 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 06:15:00 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10263 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:04:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:03:37 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:59:56 +0100 Message-ID: <4733-Thu11Sep1997105956+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: <3417CD7A.1823655A@omedia.ch> References: <1.5.4.16.19970911090504.28277ef4@irtms> <3417CD7A.1823655A@omedia.ch> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Pasa Guglielmo writes: > I don't know wether you can use hyperref with PDFLaTeX because > there are already link structures in PDF(La)TeX as you can see in > the file example.tex. > Anyway when I load hyperref it compile fine (I have some problem with > pdfcolor seemingly) but I don't get the links. if you do \usepackage[pdftex]{hyperref} in a LaTeX file, and run pdflatex, you should get proper links. If you dont, i want to know why! hyperref utilizes the new primitives in pdftex Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 11 05:00:51 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03147 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 05:00:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id HAA17938 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:03:10 -0400 Received: from siddharta.omedia.ch (root@siddharta.omedia.ch [194.235.12.2]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id HAA17934 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:03:05 -0400 Received: from omedia.ch (ppp44.omedia.ch [194.235.12.44]) by siddharta.omedia.ch (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA04572 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:51:50 +0200 Message-ID: <3417E00D.618471C7@omedia.ch> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:46:57 -0025 From: Pasa Guglielmo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? References: <1.5.4.16.19970911090504.28277ef4@irtms> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Ok ! You should get the new Hyperref package on CTAN and run hyperref.ins through latex (PDFLaTeX) and then everything should be fine ! Andreas Kopmann wrote: > > At 23:50 10.09.1997 -0025, you wrote: > >Sure! > >Just put > > > >\pdfcompresslevel=9 % for maximal compression, the range is 0--9 > > > >it works for me at least! > > That just the thing I did - without success (works only with > \pdfcompresslevel=0). Is it possible that I have a incompatible zlib.dll file ?! > > Andreas Kopmann Institut fuer Regelungstechnik > kopmann@irt.uni-hannover.de Appelstr. 11, 30167 Hannover -- Sincerely yours, Pasa Guglielmo ------------------------------------------------------------------ ¦ homepage: http://www.omedia.ch/pages/gpasa/ ¦ ¦----------------------------------------------------------------¦ ¦ e-mail : gpasa@omedia.ch ¦ tel. : +41 (0)24 485 50 40 ¦ ¦ mailing : Pasa Guglielmo ¦ fax : +41 (0)24 485 50 44 ¦ ¦ Rte des Cases 17A ¦ ¦ ¦ CH-1890 St-Maurice ¦ prof.: physicist ¦ ¦ (Switzerland) ¦ ¦ ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 11 05:59:50 1997 Flags: 000000000011 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04140 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 05:59:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id HAA18045 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:59:18 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id HAA18040 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:59:13 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14238 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:48:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:48:01 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:44:59 +0100 Message-ID: <5578-Thu11Sep1997124459+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: <3417E00D.618471C7@omedia.ch> References: <1.5.4.16.19970911090504.28277ef4@irtms> <3417E00D.618471C7@omedia.ch> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu in case any of you have met the bugs, i put up a new hyperref on CTAN today, version 5.3. It corrects all bugs that have been reported to me (I hope). The most recent were: - error in dvipsone.cfg - support for subeqnarry* - handling \href{file:t1.pdf\#page.3}{...} - handling of .toc files from pre-5.0 hyperref if anyone has any wishes for hyperref, i would like to hear them, as I am about to start documenting it. i also plan to document pdftex, and provide the necessary hooks in hyperref to support all the features of pdftex. sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 11 07:50:06 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06272 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:50:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id JAA18249 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:56:36 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id JAA18245 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:56:25 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20754 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:45:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:45:08 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:41:51 +0100 Message-ID: <5419-Thu11Sep1997144151+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu ahead of yourself, Nelson, i think. i only put it on the UK today, so it wont have crossed the Atlantic yet. the announce *is* of 5.0, so its correct... sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 00:31:01 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA27414 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 00:30:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id CAA19035 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:36:57 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A.crl.com [165.113.1.65]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id CAA19031 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:36:50 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A116022.stl1.as.crl.com [168.75.116.22]) by a.crl.com (8.8.6/) via ESMTP id XAA21703 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:21:34 -0700 (PDT) env-from (weiqigao@a.crl.com) Message-ID: <3418E178.A02DA41C@a.crl.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 01:30:16 -0500 From: Weiqi Gao Organization: Spectrum Healthcare Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: pdftex installation. References: <3414DC1F.CAD5BACA@a.crl.com> <4860-Tue09Sep1997094714+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Weiqi Gao wrote: > > > 1. I downloaded the Win32 binaries of pdftex, and it essentially > > contains three files: pdftex.exe, pdftex.pool and texmf.cnf. I'm just > > wondering if someone can give me some installation instructions. > > you need the rest of the web2cwin32 stuff; you cant just use those > binaries. unfortunately ftp.ese-metz.fr seems to be dead, does anyone > have contact with Fabrice I managed to install pdftex (pdftex-wi32.tar.gz and pdftex.tar.gz from CTAN) over the DJGPP distribution of TeX. Everything seems to work fine. Here's what I did (I just want to let the experts see if I missed out anything): 1. Copied pdftex.exe to a directory in my PATH. 2. Modified my texmf.cnf, added the two lines beginning with: TEXINPUT.pdftex = TEXPSHEADERS = from the texmf.cnf that's supplied with pdftex. 3. Created subdirectory pdftex inside texmf, and copied all the files from the libpdf/etc directory (*.enc, pdftex.map, *.tex, etc.) 4. Created format files with pdftex.exe: pdftex --ini plain.tex \dump pdftex --ini latex.ltx pdftex --ini amstex.ini mv plain.fmt texmf/web2c/pdftex.fmt mv latex.fmt texmf/web2c/pdflatex.fmt mv amstx.fmt texmf/web2c/pdfamstex.fmt 5. Copied pdftex.exe to pdflatex.exe and pdfamstex.exe. 6. (I already installed the PostScript CM fonts.) I did have two problems: i) pdftex complains about ============================================================================= ! Base font name mismatch: `CMSY10' (in font file) x `cmsy10' (in map file) The name defined in font file was ignored ============================================================================= ii) All PDF files generated from LaTeX input (sample2e.tex and small2e.tex, etc.) show up with a 2 inch left margin and 0 inch right margin. PDF files generated from plain TeX sources and AMSTeX sources look OK. > > 2. I also downloaded the source of pdftex. Since I'm using the DJGPP > > port of TeX on Windows 95, the configure script isn't entirely useful. > > I'm just wondering if someone can give me some insight into how to > > compile the sources by hand. > I'd say, don't even try at this stage; Fabrice uses Visual C++, and i think > that doing it with djgpp is going to be non-trivial. depends how hard > you want to work... I'll throw in some nights and weekends and see where it goes. BTW, is the mailing list archived somewhere (just so that I don't ask these kind of new user's questions more than I should)? -- Weiqi Gao weiqigao@a.crl.com From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 02:11:41 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA29175 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:11:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id EAA19155 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:13:50 -0400 Received: from jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id EAA19151 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:13:44 -0400 Received: by jet.msk.su; Fri, 12 Sep 97 12:02 EET DST Received: from host1.internal.jet.msk.su(193.124.4.1) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma005960; Fri Sep 12 12:02:38 1997 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Fri, 12 Sep 97 12:02 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:02:37 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:02:37 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:44:59 BST, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > if anyone has any wishes for hyperref, i would like to hear them, as I > am about to start documenting it. i also plan to document pdftex, and Thank will be excellent. Absence of documentation makes it hard to work with :( Is there any docs now available? Even README-level? For example, I'd like to know how bookmarks are generated, because I can't make them work with babel :( -- Best regards, -- Boris. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 03:24:20 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00621 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 03:24:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA19250 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 05:04:38 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA19246 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 05:04:32 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21176 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:53:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:53:39 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:46:58 +0100 Message-ID: <2578-Fri12Sep1997094658+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: pdftex installation. In-Reply-To: <3418E178.A02DA41C@a.crl.com> References: <3414DC1F.CAD5BACA@a.crl.com> <4860-Tue09Sep1997094714+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <3418E178.A02DA41C@a.crl.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > pdftex --ini amstex.ini > mv plain.fmt texmf/web2c/pdftex.fmt > mv latex.fmt texmf/web2c/pdflatex.fmt > mv amstx.fmt texmf/web2c/pdfamstex.fmt rerun MakeTeXls-R > ! Base font name mismatch: `CMSY10' (in font file) x `cmsy10' (in map > file) > The name defined in font file was ignored the map file assumes BaKoMa fonts, i guess > ii) All PDF files generated from LaTeX input (sample2e.tex and > small2e.tex, > etc.) show up with a 2 inch left margin and 0 inch right margin. PDF > files > generated from plain TeX sources and AMSTeX sources look OK. you need to say something like \pdfpagewidth\paperwidth \pdfpageheight\paperheight in your prologue, I would guess > BTW, is the mailing list archived somewhere (just so that I don't ask > these > kind of new user's questions more than I should)? http://www.tug.org/cgi-bin/lwgate provides an interface to the TUG mailing lists Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 03:34:05 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00783 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 03:34:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA19296 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 05:19:26 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA19292 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 05:19:21 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA00725 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:08:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA19206; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:12:33 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:12:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199709120912.LAA19206@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Concernant « Re: Compression does not work? », Boris Tobotras écrit : > > Is there any docs now available? Even README-level? For example, > I'd like to know how bookmarks are generated, because I can't make them > work with babel :( > -- > Best regards, -- Boris. could you be more specific? I compiled something with babel (frenchb) recently, i only had to desactivate some active chars within \href (and of course edit file.out to remove latex junk) \let\hrefori\href\let\href\undefined \def\href#1#2{{\NoAutoSpaceBeforeFDP\hrefori{#1}{#2}}} Thierry From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 06:56:35 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04089 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 06:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA19283 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 05:15:17 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA19279 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 05:15:12 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21774 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:04:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:04:17 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:00:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4255-Fri12Sep1997100020+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > > Thank will be excellent. Absence of documentation makes it hard > to work with :( did you read what is in the .dtx file? did you read the TUGboat article? really, it shouldnt *need* any documentation :-} > Is there any docs now available? Even README-level? For example, > I'd like to know how bookmarks are generated, because I can't make them > work with babel :( sorry, that bit really *is* undocumented. I stole the macros from Petr Olsak's work on texinfo, and didnt explain what I was doing what doesnt work with Babel? sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 07:12:13 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04393 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:12:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id IAA19570 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:27:34 -0400 Received: from irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de (irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de [130.75.135.94]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id IAA19566 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:27:29 -0400 Received: from irtst39.irt.uni-hannover.de by irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA279326772; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:19:32 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:19:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970912142112.2bf70804@irtms> X-Sender: kopmann@irtms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu From: Andreas Kopmann Subject: Re: Compression does not work? Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu I now have a solution for my compression problem - although I don't understand it completely... The command pdflatex test.tex (with the additional option pdftex in test.tex) doesn't produce output, while pdftex -fmt=pdflatex test.tex works well. I have another question concerning special (german) characters like "a, "o, "s. If these occure in the title of a chapter or section in the pdf-contents window something with @active... appears, while the document window is correct. Is hyperref.sty iis capable of german characters? The same happens with \bf or other commands. Andreas Kopmann Institut fuer Regelungstechnik kopmann@irt.uni-hannover.de Appelstr. 11, 30167 Hannover From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 07:13:01 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04417 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:13:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id HAA19505 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:01:12 -0400 Received: from jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id HAA19501 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:01:05 -0400 Received: by jet.msk.su; Fri, 12 Sep 97 14:50 EET DST Received: from host1.internal.jet.msk.su(193.124.4.1) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma010722; Fri Sep 12 14:49:47 1997 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Fri, 12 Sep 97 14:49 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:49:46 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-10118353850" Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:49:46 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_-10118353850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:12:33 +0200, Thierry Bouche wrote: > > I'd like to know how bookmarks are generated, because I can't make them > > work with babel :( > > -- > > Best regards, -- Boris. > > could you be more specific? Yes, sure, this is my message to pdftex list from Aug, 20: --==_Exmh_-10118353850 Content-Type: message/rfc822 ; name="1" Content-Description: 1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="1" Return-Path: mail.tug.org!owner-pdftex Return-Path: Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 20:32:34 +0400 (MSD) Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Wed, 20 Aug 97 20:32 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Wed, 20 Aug 97 20:32 MSD Received: by jet.msk.su; Wed, 20 Aug 97 20:32 EET DST Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu(158.121.106.10) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma011783; Wed Aug 20 20:32:09 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA16146 for pdftex-outgoing; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:16:57 -0400 Received: from jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA16142 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:16:51 -0400 Received: by jet.msk.su; Wed, 20 Aug 97 19:08 EET DST Received: from host1.internal.jet.msk.su(193.124.4.1) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma009900; Wed Aug 20 19:08:33 1997 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Wed, 20 Aug 97 19:08 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:08:32 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: To: pdftex@mail.tug.org Subject: Trouble: cyrillic text and PDF bookmarks Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:08:32 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@mail.tug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@mail.tug.org Hello, I've got a problem. Babel introduces \cyrillictext command which is defined as follows: \DeclareRobustCommand{\cyrillictext}{% \fontencoding{LCY}\selectfont \def\encodingdefault{LCY}} When pdflatex processes cyrillic docs, resulting .toc file contains: \select@language {russian} \contentsline {section}{\numberline {1}\cyrillictext ^^ef ^^d7^^c1{\relax \fonts ize {24.88}{30}\selectfont ^^d6}^^ce^^cf^^cd}{1}{section.1} Then when I view resulting PDF in Acrobat Reader, bookmark entry is read as {\relax \fontsize {24.88}{30}\selectfont } I can't see russian letters there, BTW, but I still hope I'll figure out how to substitute russian font for bookmarks. But what happens with the rest? Why TeX code is taken verbatim there? Thank you in advance for any help, --==_Exmh_-10118353850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Best regards, -- Boris. --==_Exmh_-10118353850-- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 07:59:43 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05274 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:59:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id KAA19824 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:04:49 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id KAA19820 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:04:44 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04574 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:53:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:53:23 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:50:17 +0100 Message-ID: <2990-Fri12Sep1997145017+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19970912142112.2bf70804@irtms> References: <1.5.4.16.19970912142112.2bf70804@irtms> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > I have another question concerning special (german) characters like "a, "o, "s. > If these occure in the title of a chapter or section in the pdf-contents > window something with @active... appears, while the document window is > correct. Is hyperref.sty iis capable of german characters? The same happens > with \bf or other commands. at present, you have to edit the .out file in between runs. one could no doubt write a neat utility to convert it to proper PDF encoding, to solve problems like this sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 08:10:00 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05501 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id KAA19901 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:16:22 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id KAA19897 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:16:17 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05192 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:05:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:05:04 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:01:46 +0100 Message-ID: <9179-Fri12Sep1997150146+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > Yes, sure, this is my message to pdftex list from Aug, 20: sorry, i was away then. must have missed it > When pdflatex processes cyrillic docs, resulting .toc file > contains: hang on, the .toc file is not relevant in this context. the bookmarks are created by reading the .out file > {\relax \fontsize {24.88}{30}\selectfont } > > I can't see russian letters there, BTW, but I still hope I'll > figure out how to substitute russian font for bookmarks. But what happens > with the rest? Why TeX code is taken verbatim there? Thank you in advance > for any help, cos the code for writing the .out file is moderately crude can you send me your .out file to look at? sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 09:12:55 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06884 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:12:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA20011 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:17:53 -0400 Received: from jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA20007 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:17:46 -0400 Received: by jet.msk.su; Fri, 12 Sep 97 19:07 EET DST Received: from host1.internal.jet.msk.su(193.124.4.1) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma018121; Fri Sep 12 19:06:41 1997 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Fri, 12 Sep 97 19:06 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:06:40 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:06:40 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:00:20 BST, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > did you read what is in the .dtx file? No, which .dtx? pdftex.tar.gz hasn't any AFAIcan tell... > did you read the TUGboat article? No, is it freely available? > really, it shouldnt *need* any documentation :-} Sure, it just should word before :) > > I'd like to know how bookmarks are generated, because I can't make them > > work with babel :( > sorry, that bit really *is* undocumented. I stole the macros from Petr > Olsak's work on texinfo, and didnt explain what I was doing > > what doesnt work with Babel? Did my previous message got through the list? -- Best regards, -- Boris. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 09:23:00 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07164 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:22:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA20024 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:18:35 -0400 Received: from jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA20020 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:18:30 -0400 Received: by jet.msk.su; Fri, 12 Sep 97 19:08 EET DST Received: from host1.internal.jet.msk.su(193.124.4.1) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma018148; Fri Sep 12 19:07:37 1997 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Fri, 12 Sep 97 19:07 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:07:36 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:07:36 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:19:32 +0200, Andreas Kopmann wrote: > I have another question concerning special (german) characters like "a, "o, "s. > If these occure in the title of a chapter or section in the pdf-contents > window something with @active... appears, while the document window is > correct. Is hyperref.sty iis capable of german characters? The same happens > with \bf or other commands. Absolutely my point. -- Best regards, -- Boris. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 09:44:58 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07736 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:44:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA20165 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:49:03 -0400 Received: from jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA20158 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:48:47 -0400 Received: by jet.msk.su; Fri, 12 Sep 97 19:38 EET DST Received: from host1.internal.jet.msk.su(193.124.4.1) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma019248; Fri Sep 12 19:38:04 1997 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Fri, 12 Sep 97 19:38 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:38:03 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-9453701710" Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:38:03 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_-9453701710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:01:46 BST, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > hang on, the .toc file is not relevant in this context. the bookmarks > are created by reading the .out file Ah, then problem is there :) > cos the code for writing the .out file is moderately crude > > can you send me your .out file to look at? Here it goes. --==_Exmh_-9453701710 Content-Type: text/plain ; name="compare_ws.out"; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: compare_ws.out Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="compare_ws.out" \BOOKMARK {section.1}{\cyrillictext ^^f7^^d7^^c5^^c4^^c5^^ce^^c9^^c5}{} \BOOKMARK {section.2}{\cyrillictext ^^f2^^d9^^ce^^cf^^cb ^^c9 ^^c6^^c9^^ce^^c1^^ce^^d3^^d9}{} \BOOKMARK {subsection.2.1}{\cyrillictext Hewlett--Packard}{section.2} \BOOKMARK {subsection.2.2}{\cyrillictext Sun Microsystems}{section.2} \BOOKMARK {subsection.2.3}{\cyrillictext Silicon Graphics}{section.2} \BOOKMARK {section.3}{\cyrillictext ^^f4^^c5^^c8^^ce^^c9^^de^^c5^^d3^^cb^^c9^^c5 ^^d0^^c1^^d2^^c1^^cd^^c5^^d4^^d2^^d9}{} \BOOKMARK {subsection.3.1}{\cyrillictext Sun Microsystems}{section.3} \BOOKMARK {subsection.3.2}{\cyrillictext Hewlett--Packard}{section.3} \BOOKMARK {subsection.3.3}{\cyrillictext Silicon Graphics}{section.3} \BOOKMARK {subsection.3.4}{\cyrillictext ^^f3^^d2^^c1^^d7^^ce^^c9^^d4^^c5^^cc^^d8^^ce^^c1^^d1 ^^d4^^c1^^c2^^cc^^c9^^c3^^c1 ^^d4^^c5^^c8^^ce^^c9^^de^^c5^^d3^^cb^^c9^^c8 ^^d0^^c1^^d2^^c1^^cd^^c5^^d4^^d2^^cf^^d7 ^^d2^^c1^^c2^^cf^^de^^c9^^c8 ^^d3^^d4^^c1^^ce^^c3^^c9^^ca}{section.3} \BOOKMARK {section.4}{\cyrillictext ^^fa^^c1^^cb^^cc^^c0^^de^^c5^^ce^^c9^^c5}{} --==_Exmh_-9453701710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Best regards, -- Boris. --==_Exmh_-9453701710-- Acrobat bookmark frame reads: cyrillictext cyrillictext cyrillictext Hewlett--Packard ... etc. Hmm, looks like I got my ligatures wrong, too :( Hmm, it's only in bookmarks frame, in body text Hewlett and Packard are separated by correct en-dash :( From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 10:05:04 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08194 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:05:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id MAA20269 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:09:46 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA20265 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:09:39 -0400 Received: from default (zl31.pi.net [145.220.204.31]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA15183; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 17:58:56 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 17:58:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <341965AC.3852@pi.net> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 17:54:20 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: Compression does not work? References: <1.5.4.16.19970912142112.2bf70804@irtms> <2990-Fri12Sep1997145017+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Hello Sebastian, > > > I have another question concerning special (german) characters like "a, "o, "s. > > If these occure in the title of a chapter or section in the pdf-contents > > window something with @active... appears, while the document window is > > correct. Is hyperref.sty iis capable of german characters? The same happens > > with \bf or other commands. > > at present, you have to edit the .out file in between runs. one could > no doubt write a neat utility to convert it to proper PDF encoding, to > solve problems like this > > sebastian Ok then, try this fifteen-minute-friday-afternoon neat hack: \unprotect % in file testtest.tex I said: % % \whatever{Som"ee D"irty $123$ Trick {\bf Hi There}} \def\preparedirtystripper% {\installcompoundcharacter "e {e} \installcompoundcharacter "i {i} % etc etc etc \catcode`\$=\@@ignore} \bgroup \catcode`\*=\@@escape \catcode`\[=\@@begingroup \catcode`\]=\@@endgroup \catcode`\{=\@@active \catcode`\}=\@@active \catcode`\\=\@@active *global*def*rundirtystripper% [*bgroup *count0=0 *preparedirtystripper *let*stopdirtystripper=*egroup *catcode`*\=*@@active *catcode`*{=*@@active *catcode`*}=*@@active *global*def\##1 []% *global*def{[*advance*count0 by 1 ]% *global*def}[*advance*count0 by -1 *ifnum*count0<0 *egroup *fi]% *let*next=] *egroup \protect \def\whatever% {\rundirtystripper} \input testtest \end Of course you have to set up \preparedirstystripper according to the macro package used, but here it works. (Although I never use bookmarks.) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 12 12:17:24 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11506 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:17:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id OAA20578 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:17:05 -0400 Received: from krypton.hksys.com (root@dns.hksys.com [206.222.220.16]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id OAA20573 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:16:50 -0400 Received: from whittle by krypton.hksys.com with smtp (NeXTSTEP Smail3.1.28.1 #30) id m0x9a6c-00086xC; Fri, 12 Sep 97 13:06 CDT Message-ID: <34198487.E35E5695@hksys.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:05:59 -0500 From: "Jeremy R. Bettis" Organization: Hickman-Kenyon Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFTeX mailing list Subject: Special Effects X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EF43CCA7308F0871F554B32E" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EF43CCA7308F0871F554B32E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the man page for dvips contains this text: > As an example of what can be done, the following special will write > a light DRAFT across each page in the document: > \special{!userdict begin /bop-hook{gsave 200 30 translate > 65 rotate /Times-Roman findfont 216 scalefont setfont > 0 0 moveto 0.7 setgray (DRAFT) show grestore}def end} Is there a way to do the same thing in PDFTeX? I want to put the word CONFIDENTIAL accross all my pages. I saw a pdf file at http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/PDFtex/geodif.pdf that had a light grey image with text printed over it. I might try that if there is not a simpler way. --------------EF43CCA7308F0871F554B32E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jeremy Bettis Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Jeremy Bettis n: Bettis;Jeremy org: Hickman-Kenyon Systems, Inc. email;internet: jeremy@hksys.com x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE end: vcard --------------EF43CCA7308F0871F554B32E-- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sat Sep 13 09:52:44 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05281 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 09:52:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA21377 for pdftex-outgoing; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:54:03 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id LAA21373 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:53:56 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04663 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:43:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:41:59 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:24:14 +0100 Message-ID: <7924-Sat13Sep1997162414+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > > No, which .dtx? pdftex.tar.gz hasn't any AFAIcan tell... hyperref.dtx > > did you read the TUGboat article? > > No, is it freely available? in libraries :-} sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sat Sep 13 10:05:36 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05504 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 10:05:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA21382 for pdftex-outgoing; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:54:11 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id LAA21378 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:54:06 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04666 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:43:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:42:01 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:24:56 +0100 Message-ID: <606-Sat13Sep1997162456+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu converting Boris Cyrillic bookmarks is going to be non-trivial.... sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sat Sep 13 13:50:53 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09068 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 13:50:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id PAA21673 for pdftex-outgoing; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 15:27:44 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A.crl.com [165.113.1.65]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA21669 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 15:27:39 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A116024.stl1.as.crl.com [168.75.116.24]) by a.crl.com (8.8.6/) via ESMTP id MAA15479 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) env-from (weiqigao@a.crl.com) Message-ID: <341AE7A7.8B1A3188@a.crl.com> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:21:11 -0500 From: Weiqi Gao Organization: Spectrum Healthcare Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: PDF format status Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Hi, Having installed PDFTeX on my DJGPP port of TeX (web2c 7.0) and converted a few trivial documents to PDF format, I start to wonder "why PDF?" Four related questions: 1. What exactly is PDF? -- Is there an internatinal standard on PDF? Is there an publicly available definition of PDF? 2. What is the driving force behind the development of pdftex? -- Is it because PDF is more advanced than the dvi and ps format technologically? Or is it because PDF is more advanced commercially? 3. How many percent of all the currently available PDF format documents are created with pdftex? -- Weiqi Gao weiqigao@a.crl.com From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sun Sep 14 10:05:18 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28858 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:05:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id KAA22444 for pdftex-outgoing; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:28:03 -0400 Received: from jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id KAA22440 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:27:49 -0400 Received: by jet.msk.su; Sun, 14 Sep 97 18:17 EET DST Received: from host1.internal.jet.msk.su(193.124.4.1) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma018979; Sun Sep 14 18:16:50 1997 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Sun, 14 Sep 97 18:16 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 18:16:12 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 18:16:12 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:24:14 BST, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > No, which .dtx? pdftex.tar.gz hasn't any AFAIcan tell... > hyperref.dtx Ah, so all this time you've told me about hyperref? :) I meant, there is no pdftex docs out there... > > > did you read the TUGboat article? > > > > No, is it freely available? > in libraries :-} ... if only they're some 1000 kilometers to west... -- Best regards, -- Boris. From owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Sun Sep 14 11:49:19 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (majordom@everglades.binc.net [208.139.218.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00649 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 11:49:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA04604; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:48:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:39:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04229; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:39:25 -0500 Message-ID: <341C21C1.72E0@document-solutions.com> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:41:21 -0700 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Save As Error References: <199709141226.WAA28011@magna.com.au> <341BD8EE.6786D88C@neuro.ki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.emrg.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.emrg.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Virgil Stokes wrote: > > Annette Larke wrote: > > > > I think you are right and that it could be a memory problem. > > > > I have had the error, only, when using Exchange on a PC with > > 16 MB RAM. Never when using it on a PC with 24 MB RAM. > > But, I have had "Save as" with 32MB and now 64MB RAM when > using Exchange! Thus, I do not believe this is a RAM > problem. > We experience the problem with 32, 64 and 96 MB of RAM, under Windows 95 and WinNT. -- but we frequently run multiple applications. Memory is just a (bad) guess on my part. We do this work over a network -- who doesn't? All I know is that a "random undocumented feature" is knocking points off productivity, ours and others. Grr! -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe or unsubscribe at: http://www.emrg.com/forum/elistsub.html + +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 15 02:37:53 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16074 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 02:37:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id EAA23021 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 04:41:05 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id EAA23017 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 04:40:33 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04563 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:29:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:28:58 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:01:22 +0100 Message-ID: <6659-Sat13Sep1997230122+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Special Effects In-Reply-To: <34198487.E35E5695@hksys.com> References: <34198487.E35E5695@hksys.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > > \special{!userdict begin /bop-hook{gsave 200 30 translate > > 65 rotate /Times-Roman findfont 216 scalefont setfont > > 0 0 moveto 0.7 setgray (DRAFT) show grestore}def end} > > Is there a way to do the same thing in PDFTeX? dvips does it by adding text before each page is printed. in pdftex you have to do it at the level of the shipout. a crude method is to add a rotated large grey text (of zero size) to the header sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 15 02:49:17 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16266 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 02:49:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id EAA23047 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 04:55:10 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id EAA23043 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 04:55:03 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05155 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:44:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:43:42 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:32:54 +0100 Message-ID: <5140-Mon15Sep1997093254+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Boris Tobotras writes: > On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:24:14 BST, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > > No, which .dtx? pdftex.tar.gz hasn't any AFAIcan tell... > > hyperref.dtx > > Ah, so all this time you've told me about hyperref? :) > > I meant, there is no pdftex docs out there... yes, sorry; the only formal documentation of pdftex is, i understand, Thanh's thesis in Czech. > > ... if only they're some 1000 kilometers to west... inter-library loan sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 15 03:38:43 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17065 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 03:38:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA23174 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 05:37:54 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA23170 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 05:37:46 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA06469 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:27:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA13554; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:31:09 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:31:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199709150931.LAA13554@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Special Effects In-Reply-To: <34198487.E35E5695@hksys.com> References: <34198487.E35E5695@hksys.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu using latex, the simplest way is to draw your text form the header within a picture environment of surface zero. (I think an example is shown in the doc of the package fancyhdr) here could be a way to achieve what you want: %% \ProvidesPackage{picdraft} \RequirePackage{color,graphicx} \definecolor{LightGray}{cmyk}{0,0,0,0.20} \def\ps@draft{\let\@mkboth\@gobbletwo \def\@oddhead{\unitlength=1cm% \begin{picture}(0,0)% \put(0,-15.5){% \resizebox{\textwidth}{!}{% \rotatebox{40}{\textcolor{LightGray}{\picdraftname}}}% }% \end{picture}}% \def\@oddfoot{\reset@font\hfil\thepage\hfil} \let\@evenhead\@oddhead \let\@evenfoot\@oddfoot} \def\picdraftname{DRAFT} %% \documentclass[11pt,twoside,a4paper]{article} \usepackage{picdraft,times} \def\picdraftname{CONFIDENTIAL} \pagestyle{draft} etc. Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/ From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 15 03:42:11 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17110 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 03:42:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA23203 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 05:48:30 -0400 Received: from jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id FAA23198 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 05:48:25 -0400 Received: by jet.msk.su; Mon, 15 Sep 97 13:37 EET DST Received: from host1.internal.jet.msk.su(193.124.4.1) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma000628; Mon Sep 15 13:37:47 1997 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Mon, 15 Sep 97 13:37 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 13:37:37 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 13:37:37 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu On Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:32:54 BST, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > yes, sorry; the only formal documentation of pdftex is, i understand, > Thanh's thesis in Czech. Is it available freely? I'll try to force somebody here to read it. At least, Alexander Taranov claims to know Polish :-)) > > ... if only they're some 1000 kilometers to west... > inter-library loan Heh :( -- Best regards, -- Boris. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 15 04:23:37 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17783 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 04:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA23376 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:27:47 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id GAA23372 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:27:33 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08302 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:16:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:15:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:12:28 +0100 Message-ID: <6172-Mon15Sep1997111228+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > > Is it available freely? I'll try to force somebody here to read > it. At least, Alexander Taranov claims to know Polish :-)) to be honest, i doubt if it would really help you. the file `example.tex' contains all that the rest of us know, i think, apart >From what one reads in the pdftex Web change file. you'll get a quicker answer just asking Hans Hagenm since he knows everything in the world, more or less :-} i doubt if Czechs will take kindly to being told their language is like POlish.... sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 15 04:26:00 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17794 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 04:25:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA23300 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:12:27 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id GAA23295 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:12:21 -0400 Received: from default (zl48.pi.net [145.220.204.48]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA00481; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 12:01:44 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 12:01:44 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <341D067D.56EC@pi.net> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:57:17 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: Special Effects References: <34198487.E35E5695@hksys.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------69F770D126E4" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------69F770D126E4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeremy R. Bettis wrote: > I want to put the word CONFIDENTIAL accross all my pages. These kind of things can best be handled by TeX, simply because that way on edoes not depend on drivers. 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Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu >> > ... if only they're some 1000 kilometers to west... >> inter-library loan I sometimes think Sebastian doesn't live in the real world. Boris: let me know what article you want from TUGboat, and I'll ask TUG's permission to Xerox and post it to you. ** Phil. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 15 06:55:45 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20245 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:55:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id IAA23673 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:52:24 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id IAA23669 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:52:19 -0400 Received: from axp14.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 15 Sep 1997 12:41:55 UT Received: from AXP14.AMS.ORG by AXP14.AMS.ORG (PMDF V5.1-8 #1) id <01INNYNNTE9C000GOO@AXP14.AMS.ORG> for pdftex@mail.tug.org; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:41:54 EST Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:41:54 -0400 (EDT) From: bbeeton Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-reply-to: <970915120032.d63a@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk> To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Message-id: <874327314.339260.BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Mail-system-version: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu boris tobotras, re an article in tugboat: ... if only they're some 1000 kilometers to west... sebastian: inter-library loan phil taylor: Boris: let me know what article you want from TUGboat, and I'll ask TUG's permission to Xerox and post it to you. phil -- you have the tugboat editor's permission. i think that should be good enough. (thanks.) -- bb From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 15 08:33:43 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22189 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:33:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id KAA23788 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:20:30 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id KAA23784 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:20:25 -0400 Received: from default (zl45.pi.net [145.220.204.45]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA19819; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:09:47 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:09:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <341D4048.530E@pi.net> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:03:52 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: Compression does not work? References: <6172-Mon15Sep1997111228+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > you'll get a quicker answer just asking Hans Hagenm since he knows > everything in the world, more or less :-} Feel free to ask. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 15 09:28:02 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23306 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:28:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA23860 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:19:12 -0400 Received: from krypton.hksys.com (root@dns.hksys.com [206.222.220.16]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA23856 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:19:07 -0400 Received: from whittle by krypton.hksys.com with smtp (NeXTSTEP Smail3.1.28.1 #30) id m0xAclG-00086zC; Mon, 15 Sep 97 10:08 CDT Message-ID: <341D4F5E.2AC84442@hksys.com> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:08:14 -0500 From: "Jeremy R. Bettis" Organization: Hickman-Kenyon Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Special Effects X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <34198487.E35E5695@hksys.com> <199709150931.LAA13554@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A961DB7A76AAA7324F04710F" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A961DB7A76AAA7324F04710F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thierry Bouche wrote: > using latex, the simplest way is to draw your text form the header > within a picture environment of surface zero. > > (I think an example is shown in the doc of the package fancyhdr) > here could be a way to achieve what you want: Thanks! You folks are amazing. I wish I only understood these little perls of wisdom better. --------------A961DB7A76AAA7324F04710F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jeremy Bettis Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Jeremy Bettis n: Bettis;Jeremy org: Hickman-Kenyon Systems, Inc. email;internet: jeremy@hksys.com x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE end: vcard --------------A961DB7A76AAA7324F04710F-- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 15 22:04:31 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09146 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id XAA24519 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:39:09 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A.crl.com [165.113.1.65]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id XAA24515 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:39:01 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A116025.stl1.as.crl.com [168.75.116.25]) by a.crl.com (8.8.6/) via ESMTP id UAA05579; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:23:27 -0700 (PDT) env-from (weiqigao@a.crl.com) Message-ID: <341DFDBE.C149521D@a.crl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:32:14 -0500 From: Weiqi Gao Organization: Spectrum Healthcare Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: djgpp@delorie.com, pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: pdftex (was Re: Tex) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu To my question of building pdftex with DJGPP, I've got two responses: Eli Zaretskii wrote in the DJGPP list: > > On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Weiqi Gao wrote: > > > The pdftex part (2.), I haven't been able to set up. The > > pdftex source is available under the GPL, and is in a format that is > > meant to be merged with the standard kpathsea and web2c sources (with > > replacement Makefile.in and configure.in, etc.) However, I can't do a > > clean make yet under DJGPP. > > This shouldn't be too hard. Why don't you post the specific problems > that you get when you try to compile PDFTeX, and see if someone here > has any ideas how to overcome these problems? Sebastian Rahtz wrote in the pdftex list: > > Weiqi Gao wrote: > > > 2. I also downloaded the source of pdftex. Since I'm using the DJGPP > > port of TeX on Windows 95, the configure script isn't entirely useful. > > I'm just wondering if someone can give me some insight into how to > > compile the sources by hand. > > I'd say, don't even try at this stage; Fabrice uses Visual C++, and i think > that doing it with djgpp is going to be non-trivial. depends how hard > you want to work... > > Sebastian I managed to conpile pdftex with DJGPP today. I simply overlaid the pdftex source with the DJGPP's version of web2c (webc70s.zip) and kpathsea (kpse30s.zip), run the DJGPP specific configure script djgpp/config.bat, and then started to do "make pdftex". I ran into several problems. None of them are pdftex problems. I have encountered: 1. ac_include in Makefiles choking make. (changed them to include) 2. @top_srcdir@, @srcdir@, etc. not substituted in the make/*.make scripts. (changed them all to either . or .., knowing this will cause problems later) 3. make would error out because it cannot find a certain file. (moved files around so that the wrong Makefile can find them) The result looks like this (probably not optimized for size yet): -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 2048 Sep 15 21:31 pdfamstex.exe* -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 2048 Sep 15 21:31 pdflatex.exe* -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 678773 Sep 15 21:29 pdftex.exe* compared with the binary distribution's: -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 470016 May 28 16:08 pdfamstex.exe* -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 470016 May 28 16:08 pdflatex.exe* -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 470016 May 28 16:08 pdftex.exe* The DJGPP binaries seems to run just fine. -- Weiqi Gao weiqigao@a.crl.com From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 16 09:09:17 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (root@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21255 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:09:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id IAA24994 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:59:54 -0400 Received: from is.elta.co.il (is.elta.co.il [199.203.121.2]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id IAA24990 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:59:47 -0400 Received: by is.elta.co.il (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA25717; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:48:43 +0300 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:48:40 +0300 (IDT) From: Eli Zaretskii X-Sender: eliz@is To: Weiqi Gao cc: djgpp@delorie.com, pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: pdftex (was Re: Tex) In-Reply-To: <341DFDBE.C149521D@a.crl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Weiqi Gao wrote: > Sebastian Rahtz wrote in the pdftex list: > > > > I'd say, don't even try at this stage; Fabrice uses Visual C++, and i think > > that doing it with djgpp is going to be non-trivial. depends how hard > > you want to work... > I disagree. Most of the problems with porting a Unix program are common to NT and DJGPP (binary vs text I/O, drive letters and backslashes in pathnames, etc.). So code that compiles on NT should be a good starting point. > I ran into several problems. None of them are pdftex problems. I have > encountered: > 1. ac_include in Makefiles choking make. (changed them to > include) Please post the details, if you care to solve this. ac_include worked for me when I configured Web2c and Kpathsea. Using include instead is NOT the correct solution (see below). > 2. @top_srcdir@, @srcdir@, etc. not substituted in the make/*.make > scripts. (changed them all to either . or .., knowing this will cause > problems later) They don't need to be substituted, this is a consequence of the ac_include problem. These *.make files are included in the Makefile's when they are created by the configure step, and the substitution is done as part of the inclusion by ac_include. Since you changed ac_include to include, the substitution wasn't done. > 3. make would error out because it cannot find a certain file. > (moved files around so that the wrong Makefile can find them) Shouldn't happen either, but I cannot say more without seeing the details. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Wed Sep 17 20:45:37 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05512 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 20:45:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id WAA01671 for pdftex-outgoing; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:36:53 -0400 Received: from comet.connix.com (root@comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id WAA01667 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:36:46 -0400 Received: from kale.connix.com (root@kale.connix.com [204.183.64.34]) by comet.connix.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11380 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kale.connix.com id (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:29:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:29:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Tietjen To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Debian TeTeX pdftex configuration Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.105) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Problem: pdflatex and pdftex don't find their support files, such as pdflatex.fmt or article.cls. correctly from reading variables in the kpathsea texmf.cnf file kale: $ set | grep TEX TEXMFCNF=.:/etc/texmf TEXMF=/usr/lib/texmf kale: $ pdflatex newresume This is PDFTeX, Version 0.11 (based on TeX Version 3.14159) (Web2c 7.0) I can't find the format file `pdflatex.fmt'! I obtained the Linux bin distribution -rw-rw-r-- 1 rtietjen rtietjen 373036 Sep 13 17:46 pdftex-bin.tar.gz >From CTAN. It contains 3 files: -rwxr-xr-x thanh/users 977319 pdftex -rw-r--r-- thanh/users 31719 pdftex.pool -rw-r--r-- thanh/users 13172 texmf.cnf Installed them thusly: /usr/lib/texmf/web2c: total 2775 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Sep 16 22:46 . drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 1024 Sep 16 22:48 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 536595 Jun 20 21:19 amstex.fmt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3625 Jun 20 21:19 amstex.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 649172 Jun 20 21:19 latex.fmt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9173 Jun 20 21:19 latex.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 145016 Jun 20 21:20 mf.base -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 729 Jun 20 21:20 mf.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22147 Aug 11 1995 mf.pool -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 379 Jun 20 21:21 mp.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 67172 Jun 20 21:21 mp.mem -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24631 Jul 29 1996 mp.pool -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25796 Aug 11 1995 orgtex.pool -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 599263 Sep 16 22:26 pdflatex.fmt -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 282645 Sep 16 22:24 pdftex.fmt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31719 May 7 04:45 pdftex.pool lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jun 20 21:20 plain.base -> mf.base lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jun 20 21:17 plain.fmt -> tex.fmt lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jun 20 21:21 plain.mem -> mp.mem -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 377840 Jun 20 21:17 tex.fmt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2845 Jun 20 21:17 tex.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25796 Aug 11 1995 tex.pool -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18 Jun 20 21:18 texsys.aux I installed pdftex : /usr/local/bin: lrwxrwxrwx 1 rtietjen staff 21 Sep 16 22:01 pdflatex -> /usr/local/bin/pdftex -rwxr-xr-x 1 rtietjen staff 977319 May 7 04:47 pdftex Copied pdftex.pool to /usr/lib/texmf/web2c And inserted TEXINPUTS.pdftex = $KPSE_DOT:$TEXMFS/tex/{eplain,plain,generic}// TEXINPUTS.pdflatex = $KPSE_DOT:$TEXMFS/tex/{latex,latex209,generic}// into /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf where the Debian TeTeX distribution knows to look. I then did export TEXMFCNF=/etc/texmf so that pdf(la)tex would find texmf.cnf which it seems to do, based on the output of strace. However it doesn't seem to bootstrap itself from the contents of texmf.cnf. I think I set/exported all the variables in texmf.cnf into the environment, it would probably work. But I don't want to. Any ideas? kale: $ strace pdflatex newresume | grep '"/' > execve("/usr/local/bin/pdflatex", ["pdflatex", "newresume"], [/* 37 vars */]) = 0 stat("/etc/ld.so.cache", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=6500, ...}) = 0 open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3 stat("/etc/ld.so.preload", 0xbffff978) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/lib/libm.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3 open("/lib/libc.so.5", O_RDONLY) = 3 stat("/home/rtietjen/Toolscripts/pdflatex", 0xbffff968) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat("/usr/local/bin/pdflatex", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=977319, ...}) = 0 open("/usr/local/bin/pdflatex", O_RDONLY) = 3 lstat("/usr", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0 lstat("/usr/local", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISGID|0775, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0 lstat("/usr/local/bin", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISGID|0775, st_size=2048, ...}) = 0 lstat("/usr/local/bin/pdflatex", {st_mode=S_IFLNK|0777, st_size=21, ...}) = 0 readlink("/usr/local/bin/pdflatex", "/usr/local/bin/pdftex", 2048) = 21 lstat("/usr", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0 lstat("/usr/local", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISGID|0775, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0 lstat("/usr/local/bin", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISGID|0775, st_size=2048, ...}) = 0 lstat("/usr/local/bin/pdftex", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=977319, ...}) = 0 stat("/etc/texmf", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0 access("/etc/texmf/texmf.cnf", R_OK) = 0 stat("/etc/texmf/texmf.cnf", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=4175, ...}) = 0 open("/etc/texmf/texmf.cnf", O_RDONLY) = 3 stat("/usr/local/share/texmf", 0xbffff7d8) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) Where you can see, it stats /usr/local/share/texmf which doesn't exist. Both the environment and texmf.cnf define TEXMF=/usr/lib/texmf Have others had similar problems? Shouldn't it derive its settings from texmf.cnf? Is this a misunderstanding on my part or a bug in pdftex? Thanks. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 18 00:24:11 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09677 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 00:24:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id CAA01859 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:19:03 -0400 Received: from jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id CAA01855 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:18:55 -0400 Received: by jet.msk.su; Thu, 18 Sep 97 10:07 EET DST Received: from host1.internal.jet.msk.su(193.124.4.1) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma011997; Thu Sep 18 10:07:32 1997 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Thu, 18 Sep 97 10:06 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:06:46 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-7161627170" Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:06:45 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu This is a multipart MIME message. --==_Exmh_-7161627170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:03:52 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > you'll get a quicker answer just asking Hans Hagenm since he knows > > everything in the world, more or less :-} > > Feel free to ask. Thank you, can you take a look to what Sebastian said is non-trivial? :) Here's my message with description. Thank you in advance. --==_Exmh_-7161627170 Content-Type: message/rfc822 ; name="1" Content-Description: 1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="1" Return-Path: mail.tug.org!owner-pdftex Return-Path: Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 20:32:34 +0400 (MSD) Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Wed, 20 Aug 97 20:32 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Wed, 20 Aug 97 20:32 MSD Received: by jet.msk.su; Wed, 20 Aug 97 20:32 EET DST Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu(158.121.106.10) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma011783; Wed Aug 20 20:32:09 1997 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA16146 for pdftex-outgoing; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:16:57 -0400 Received: from jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA16142 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:16:51 -0400 Received: by jet.msk.su; Wed, 20 Aug 97 19:08 EET DST Received: from host1.internal.jet.msk.su(193.124.4.1) by relay1.jet.msk.su id sma009900; Wed Aug 20 19:08:33 1997 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Wed, 20 Aug 97 19:08 MSD Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:08:32 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: To: pdftex@mail.tug.org Subject: Trouble: cyrillic text and PDF bookmarks Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:08:32 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@mail.tug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@mail.tug.org Hello, I've got a problem. Babel introduces \cyrillictext command which is defined as follows: \DeclareRobustCommand{\cyrillictext}{% \fontencoding{LCY}\selectfont \def\encodingdefault{LCY}} When pdflatex processes cyrillic docs, resulting .toc file contains: \select@language {russian} \contentsline {section}{\numberline {1}\cyrillictext ^^ef ^^d7^^c1{\relax \fonts ize {24.88}{30}\selectfont ^^d6}^^ce^^cf^^cd}{1}{section.1} Then when I view resulting PDF in Acrobat Reader, bookmark entry is read as {\relax \fontsize {24.88}{30}\selectfont } I can't see russian letters there, BTW, but I still hope I'll figure out how to substitute russian font for bookmarks. But what happens with the rest? Why TeX code is taken verbatim there? Thank you in advance for any help, --==_Exmh_-7161627170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Best regards, -- Boris. --==_Exmh_-7161627170-- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 18 01:35:34 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10968 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 01:35:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id DAA01956 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 03:29:17 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A.crl.com [165.113.1.65]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id DAA01952 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 03:29:13 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A116009.stl1.as.crl.com [168.75.116.9]) by a.crl.com (8.8.6/) via ESMTP id AAA09533; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 00:13:20 -0700 (PDT) env-from (weiqigao@a.crl.com) Message-ID: <3420D6A6.4C1C7A67@a.crl.com> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:22:14 -0500 From: Weiqi Gao Organization: Spectrum Healthcare Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: djgpp@delorie.com, pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: pdftex for DJGPP (was Re: Tex) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I ran into several problems. None of them are pdftex problems. I have > > encountered: > > 1. ac_include in Makefiles choking make. (changed them to > > include) > > Please post the details, if you care to solve this. ac_include worked OK, here's my second night's result. And this time it's very encouraging. I still have problems with the "ac_include"s. That's probably because either my m4 or my autoconf program is not set up properly. To go around this problem, I replaced all ac_include lines in all the Makefile.in with a copy of the to be inserted file. I made it my goal to produce a pdftex.exe. To that end: 1. I unzipped the Web2C (webc70s.zip) and the Kpathsea (kpse30s.zip) packages. 2. I then untarred pdftex.tar.gz in the gnu/texk-7.0 directory. (overwriting 8 files). 3. I did the ac_include thing mentioned above. (This is stupid, I know.) I also got rid of all the "-g"s from CFLAGS. 4. I run djgpp/config.bat from texk-7.0 (with errors, since web2c/cinfigure is overwritten now). 5. I run "make pdftex" from gnu/texk-7.0/web2c. And that's it. I have a DJGPP compiled pdftex.exe now: -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 2048 Sep 18 01:31 pdfamstex.exe* -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 2048 Sep 18 01:31 pdflatex.exe* -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 422912 Sep 18 01:28 pdftex.exe* Compared with the Win32 binaries distribution: -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 470016 May 28 16:08 pdfamstex.exe* -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 470016 May 28 16:08 pdflatex.exe* -rwxr-xr-x 1 weiqi dos 470016 May 28 16:08 pdftex.exe* This size of pdftex.exe is 10% smaller now. It also runs markedly faster. (I recreated all the pdf{,la,ams}tex.fmt files and was able to generate PDF files out of arbitrary TeX files.) Thanks for everyone on the PDFTeX project. And I'll read your mathematics on the Internet! -- Weiqi Gao weiqigao@a.crl.com From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 18 03:42:02 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13292 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 03:42:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA02166 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 05:45:32 -0400 Received: from is.elta.co.il (is.elta.co.il [199.203.121.2]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id FAA02162 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 05:45:26 -0400 Received: by is.elta.co.il (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA01895; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:34:15 +0300 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:34:15 +0300 (IDT) From: Eli Zaretskii X-Sender: eliz@is To: Weiqi Gao cc: djgpp@delorie.com, pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: pdftex for DJGPP (was Re: Tex) In-Reply-To: <3420D6A6.4C1C7A67@a.crl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Weiqi Gao wrote: > This size of pdftex.exe is 10% smaller now. It also runs markedly > faster. How about uploading the pdftex distribution (sources and binaries) to the DJGPP archives? From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 18 07:04:38 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16641 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 07:04:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id IAA02467 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:58:47 -0400 Received: from nandanam (root@[208.137.1.37]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id IAA02463 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:58:42 -0400 Received: (from hari@localhost) by nandanam (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA00843 for pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 23:36:01 -0500 From: Gopalakrishnan Harikumar Message-Id: <199709180436.XAA00843@nandanam> Subject: Pdfwith embedded postscript? To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 23:35:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu I downloaded the pre-release of tetex-0.9. Played around with pdftex. It works very well, except that it does not seem to want to handle embedded postscript files. (ie files that are included using \epsffile{file.ps}. Any way to get pdftex to do this? Thanks for any help. -- Hari. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ G. Harikumar (ghari@trc.tellabs.com) _______________________________________________________ From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 18 08:56:20 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19029 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:56:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id KAA02612 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:50:50 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id KAA02608 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:50:40 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03411 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:39:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:38:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:14:56 +0100 Message-ID: <5258-Thu18Sep1997151456+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Pdfwith embedded postscript? In-Reply-To: <199709180436.XAA00843@nandanam> References: <199709180436.XAA00843@nandanam> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Gopalakrishnan Harikumar writes: > I downloaded the pre-release of tetex-0.9. > Played around with pdftex. It works very well, except > that it does not seem to want to handle embedded > postscript files. (ie files that are included using > \epsffile{file.ps}. Any way to get pdftex to do this? > to include PS files as `native', pdftex would have to contain a complete PS interpreter. it doesn't/won't. So what are the alternatives? 1. use Distiller to make separate PDF files which you can include back in the file. This doesn't work at present, but is on Han The Thanh's list of things to work on 2. use GhostScript to make PDF files and include those 3. use GhostScript to make a PNG bitmap image, and include that Both 2. and 3. are supported if you use LaTeX's standard graphics package with the pdftex driver (latest version), ie \includegraphics{foo.pdf} or \includegraphics{foo.png} - see pdftex.def in the graphics bundle if you want to follow the logic. The only flaw is that only some EPS files will generate useable files when run through GhostScript's ps2pdf. It depends how you generated them... Obviously you need a good GhostScript - don't use less than version 5.01. Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 18 09:49:14 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20292 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA02745 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:30:28 -0400 Received: from irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de (irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de [130.75.135.94]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id LAA02741 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:30:23 -0400 Received: from irtst39.irt.uni-hannover.de by irtms.irt.uni-hannover.de with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA028186123; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:22:03 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:22:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970918172349.281798b2@irtms> X-Sender: kopmann@irtms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu From: Andreas Kopmann Subject: Re: Pdfwith embedded postscript? Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > 2. use GhostScript to make PDF files and include those >The only flaw is that only some EPS files will generate useable files >when run through GhostScript's ps2pdf. It depends how you generated >them... > >Obviously you need a good GhostScript - don't use less than version >5.01. > That's true. I tried Ghostscript 5.03. All other versions failed producing pdf output from my eps pictures. BUT to generate PDF's with ps2pdf will not ensure that you are able to invoke the results in your TeX document with pdftex. The only example where I was successful was the ghostscript demo golfer.ps. All samples created with Origin or Correl doesn't work. The pdftex.def (Graphix-Package) seems to invoke only the first stream - environment while valid pdf-file might have more then one stream sections. There also was a problem using fonts in my examples ?! Andreas Kopmann Institut fuer Regelungstechnik kopmann@irt.uni-hannover.de Appelstr. 11, 30167 Hannover From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 18 10:26:22 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21381 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:26:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id MAA02863 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:10:01 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA02857 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:09:51 -0400 Received: from default (zl44.pi.net [145.220.204.44]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA03980; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:58:42 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:58:42 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <342105FB.5836@pi.net> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:44:11 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: Compression does not work? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Boris Tobotras wrote: > > I've got a problem. Babel introduces \cyrillictext command which > is defined as follows: > > \DeclareRobustCommand{\cyrillictext}{% > \fontencoding{LCY}\selectfont > \def\encodingdefault{LCY}} > > When pdflatex processes cyrillic docs, resulting .toc file > contains: > > \select@language {russian} > \contentsline {section}{\numberline {1}\cyrillictext ^^ef ^^d7^^c1{\relax \fonts > ize {24.88}{30}\selectfont ^^d6}^^ce^^cf^^cd}{1}{section.1} > > Then when I view resulting PDF in Acrobat Reader, bookmark entry > is read as > > {\relax \fontsize {24.88}{30}\selectfont } > > I can't see russian letters there, BTW, but I still hope I'll > figure out how to substitute russian font for bookmarks. But what happens > with the rest? Why TeX code is taken verbatim there? Thank you in advance > for any help, Apart from being an awfully-defined-piece of pdf, bookmarks are definitely no competitor for tex generated tables of contents. As far as I can see, the bookmark have to be plain ascii. This means that one cannot simply pass the normal toc string to a bookmark, simply because such a toc string can contain all kind of tex things. For a similar reason one cannot use the section numbers and page numbers as named destinations. The same problem arises with text annotations. One way of dealing with this supplying alternative bookmark strings. Another alternative concerns passing normal ascii but stripping and translating tex commands. The main problem with this approach is that some tex commands need to be expanded into characters (\ae), while others need to be ignored (\bf). A third approach concerns handling at the pdftex level. I'll discuss this with Thanh when he's back. Maybe the text annotations/bookmark can be handled by a sort of stripper: \pdfasciistring{whatever context} which translated a (box) content into recognizable ascii's (a sort of dvi2ascii approach will do). BTW, adobe suggests to limit the size of a bookmark to about 30 characters anyway. Due to some requests I'll look into bookmarks soon, so maybe I come up with something useful. I did implement but disabled bookmarks because I never used them. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 18 13:21:06 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25220 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:21:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id PAA03103 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:25:56 -0400 Received: from first.gni.net (root@ns.choin.net [194.64.24.193]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA03099 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:25:51 -0400 Received: from berlin.netsurf.de (msn-37.au2.b.eunet.de [149.229.254.37]) by first.gni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06971; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 21:24:09 +0200 Message-ID: <342129DB.1F4AD0F@berlin.netsurf.de> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:17:15 +0200 From: Tobias Burnus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: Weiqi Gao , djgpp@delorie.com Subject: Re: pdftex for DJGPP (was Re: Tex) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > > This size of pdftex.exe is 10% smaller now. It also runs markedly > > faster. > > How about uploading the pdftex distribution (sources and binaries) to > the DJGPP archives? What's about uploading the binaries on CTAN? From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 18 14:00:13 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26081 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:00:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id PAA03165 for pdftex-outgoing; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:53:03 -0400 Received: from first.gni.net (root@ns.choin.net [194.64.24.193]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA03161 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:52:56 -0400 Received: from berlin.netsurf.de (msn-60.au2.b.eunet.de [149.229.254.60]) by first.gni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07966 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 21:51:25 +0200 Message-ID: <342183F3.61699319@berlin.netsurf.de> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 21:41:39 +0200 From: Tobias Burnus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Pdfwith embedded postscript? References: <1.5.4.16.19970918172349.281798b2@irtms> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Hallo Andreas, > BUT to generate PDF's with ps2pdf will not ensure that you are able to > invoke the results in your TeX document with pdftex. The only example where > I was successful was the ghostscript demo golfer.ps. All samples created > with Origin or Correl doesn't work. The pdftex.def (Graphix-Package) seems > to invoke only the first stream - environment while valid pdf-file might > have more then one stream sections. There also was a problem using fonts in > my examples ?! This is a problem of PDFTeX. Presently it does only support the inclusion of one PDF object at a time. If you use more PDFTeX would need to change the references of the objects which cannot be don't at the moment. At TUG'97 there was DVI2PDF presented which could do so, I expect that Thanh will support this feature later. If you use Corel Draw's EPS export ensure that you have checked convert fonts into curves. Gr"u"se, Regards and Groeten, Tobias From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thu Sep 18 23:09:29 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06655 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:09:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id AAA03509 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 00:35:03 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A.crl.com [165.113.1.65]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id AAA03504 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 00:34:55 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A116004.stl1.as.crl.com [168.75.116.4]) by a.crl.com (8.8.6/) via ESMTP id VAA20075; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 21:18:43 -0700 (PDT) env-from (weiqigao@a.crl.com) Message-ID: <3421FF3C.4B3F4FB1@a.crl.com> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 23:27:40 -0500 From: Weiqi Gao Organization: Spectrum Healthcare Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: djgpp@delorie.com, pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: pdftex for DJGPP (was Re: Tex) References: <342129DB.1F4AD0F@berlin.netsurf.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tobias Burnus wrote: > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > This size of pdftex.exe is 10% smaller now. It also runs markedly > > > faster. > > > > How about uploading the pdftex distribution (sources and binaries) to > > the DJGPP archives? > > What about uploading the binaries on CTAN? No problem. Just as soon as I put everything in order. And of course the DJGPP and CTAN archives will have to accept such a packaging contribution. I also need to learn the mechanics of it. -- Weiqi Gao weiqigao@a.crl.com From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 19 03:19:12 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11566 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 03:19:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id EAA03708 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:51:07 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id EAA03700 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:51:00 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00397 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:39:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:39:27 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:13:14 +0100 Message-ID: <6705-Fri19Sep1997091314+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: pdftex for DJGPP (was Re: Tex) In-Reply-To: <3421FF3C.4B3F4FB1@a.crl.com> References: <342129DB.1F4AD0F@berlin.netsurf.de> <3421FF3C.4B3F4FB1@a.crl.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > > No problem. Just as soon as I put everything in order. And of course > the DJGPP and CTAN archives will have to accept such a packaging > contribution. I also need to learn the mechanics of it. > unless I misremember, CTAN mirrors the DJGPP archives for this package. but you are welcome to put the files on CTAN in the meanwhile. Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 19 03:20:19 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11574 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 03:20:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id EAA03692 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:50:15 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id EAA03688 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:50:08 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00310 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:38:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:38:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:44:28 +0100 Message-ID: <6032-Fri19Sep1997084428+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Pdfwith embedded postscript? In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19970918172349.281798b2@irtms> References: <1.5.4.16.19970918172349.281798b2@irtms> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > BUT to generate PDF's with ps2pdf will not ensure that you are able to > invoke the results in your TeX document with pdftex. The only example where true, its the remaining big problem. > with Origin or Correl doesn't work. The pdftex.def (Graphix-Package) seems > to invoke only the first stream - environment while valid pdf-file might > have more then one stream sections. There also was a problem using fonts in > my examples ?! true, the graphics package inclusion only handles .pdf files with a single stream. as for fonts, only the simplest stuff will work sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 19 03:27:24 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11704 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 03:27:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA03728 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:03:09 -0400 Received: from iti.upv.es (goya.iti.upv.es [158.42.51.3]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id FAA03724 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:03:02 -0400 Received: from kant.iti.upv.es by goya.iti.upv.es with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA02774; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:51:56 +0200 Message-Id: <34223D50.1482AD97@dsic.upv.es> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:52:32 +0200 From: Alfons Juan Ciscar Organization: Universidad Politecnica de Valencia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Debian TeTeX pdftex configuration References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Richard Tietjen wrote: > > Problem: pdflatex and pdftex don't find their support files, such as > pdflatex.fmt or article.cls. correctly from reading variables in the > kpathsea texmf.cnf file > ... > Have others had similar problems? Shouldn't it derive its > settings from texmf.cnf? Is this a misunderstanding on my part or a > bug in pdftex? > > Thanks. I also have a Debian/GNU Linux distribution installed which comes with teTeX 0.4. To get pdftex and pdflatex running, i installed the source of teTeX 0.9 (ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-hannover.de/home/te/private/.0.9) in /usr/local (follow the installing instructions given in QuickInstall.src). -- Alfons Juan, http://kant.iti.upv.es/~ajuan. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 19 03:38:04 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11871 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 03:38:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id EAA03709 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:51:08 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id EAA03701 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:51:00 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00401 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:39:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:39:47 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:38:36 +0100 Message-ID: <5177-Fri19Sep1997093836+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Compression does not work? In-Reply-To: <342105FB.5836@pi.net> References: <342105FB.5836@pi.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Hans Hagen writes: > competitor for tex generated tables of contents. As far as I can > see, the bookmark > have to be plain ascii. no, they have to be in PDFEncoding. so a bit better than ASCII. Boris will not see Cyrillic ever, i think > This means that one cannot simply pass the normal toc string > to a bookmark, simply because such a toc string can contain all > kind of tex things. the problem with TeX Tocs is that they are not visible all the time; they come in to their own when you design documents for Acrobat, as you do. Bookmarks are nice for unchanged LaTeX documents > alternative concerns passing normal ascii but stripping and > translating tex commands. The main problem with this approach is > that some tex commands need to be expanded into > characters (\ae), while others need to be ignored (\bf). yes, agreed, its always going to be a mess > A third approach concerns handling at the pdftex level. I'll > discuss this with Thanh when he's back. Maybe the text > annotations/bookmark can be handled by a sort of > stripper: > > \pdfasciistring{whatever context} thats a good idea, actually. if embedded in the TeX engine, it would be much easier to use > Due to some requests I'll look into bookmarks soon, so maybe I come > up with something > useful. I did implement but disabled bookmarks because I never used them. they are nice for large legacy documents, eg texinfo manuals and the like, IMHO sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 19 03:51:23 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12088 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 03:51:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA03747 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:18:15 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA03743 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:18:10 -0400 Received: from default (zl37.pi.net [145.220.204.37]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA06866; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:07:15 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:07:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3421513E.42E5@pi.net> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:05:18 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: Pdfwith embedded postscript? References: <199709180436.XAA00843@nandanam> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Gopalakrishnan Harikumar wrote: > I downloaded the pre-release of tetex-0.9. > Played around with pdftex. It works very well, except > that it does not seem to want to handle embedded > postscript files. (ie files that are included using > \epsffile{file.ps}. Any way to get pdftex to do this? PDFTEX has no eps/ps interpreter build in, and pdf is the end-format. Convert the eps to pdf (using gs) and include the resulting pdf using the macros available in the package in use. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 19 11:03:31 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21104 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:03:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id MAA04317 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 12:51:05 -0400 Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA04313 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 12:50:58 -0400 Received: from default (zl32.pi.net [145.220.204.32]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA24907; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:40:02 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:40:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3422975C.A38@pi.net> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:16:44 +0200 From: Hans Hagen Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu CC: pragma@pi.net Subject: Re: Compression does not work? References: <342105FB.5836@pi.net> <5177-Fri19Sep1997093836+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Hans Hagen writes: > > competitor for tex generated tables of contents. As far as I can > > see, the bookmark > > have to be plain ascii. > no, they have to be in PDFEncoding. so a bit better than ASCII. Boris > will not see Cyrillic ever, i think If there is an encoding in use, than probably some day cyrillic will be possible, but as far as I know, Adobe has minimal plans for the eastern europe languages. Searching is probably an even bigger problem. > > A third approach concerns handling at the pdftex level. I'll > > discuss this with Thanh when he's back. Maybe the text > > annotations/bookmark can be handled by a sort of > > stripper: > > > > \pdfasciistring{whatever context} > thats a good idea, actually. if embedded in the TeX engine, it would > be much easier to use Ok then, remind me to discuss this with Thanh. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 69 | mail: pragma@pi.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Fri Sep 19 17:27:45 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29422 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id TAA04571 for pdftex-outgoing; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:30:38 -0400 Received: from comet.connix.com (root@comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id TAA04567 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:30:32 -0400 Received: from kale.connix.com (root@kale.connix.com [204.183.64.34]) by comet.connix.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26304 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:19:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kale.connix.com id (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:24:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:24:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Tietjen To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Debian TeTeX pdftex configuration In-Reply-To: <34223D50.1482AD97@dsic.upv.es> References: <34223D50.1482AD97@dsic.upv.es> X-Mailer: VM 6.28 under Emacs 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.105) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Thanks, Alfons Did you compile tetex as well as installing the source? Your report suggests to me that pdftex is hard-wired to look in /usr/local// for its inputs. And that I may have to set all those variables in the environment. >>>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:52:32 +0200, Alfons Juan Ciscar said: Alfons> Richard Tietjen wrote: >> Problem: pdflatex and pdftex don't find their support files, >> such as pdflatex.fmt or article.cls. correctly from reading >> variables in the kpathsea texmf.cnf file >> Alfons> ... >> Have others had similar problems? Shouldn't it derive its >> settings from texmf.cnf? Is this a misunderstanding on my part >> or a bug in pdftex? >> >> Thanks. Alfons> I also have a Debian/GNU Linux distribution installed Alfons> which comes with teTeX 0.4. To get pdftex and pdflatex Alfons> running, i installed the source of teTeX 0.9 Alfons> (ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-hannover.de/home/te/private/.0.9) Alfons> in /usr/local (follow the installing instructions given in Alfons> QuickInstall.src). Alfons> -- Alfons Juan, http://kant.iti.upv.es/~ajuan. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sat Sep 20 10:09:53 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15772 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 10:09:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id MAA05109 for pdftex-outgoing; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 12:11:11 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A.crl.com [165.113.1.65]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA05105 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 12:11:07 -0400 Received: from a.crl.com (A116020.stl1.as.crl.com [168.75.116.20]) by a.crl.com (8.8.6/) via ESMTP id IAA20384; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 08:55:17 -0700 (PDT) env-from (weiqigao@a.crl.com) Message-ID: <3423F401.2FB827BA@a.crl.com> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 11:04:17 -0500 From: Weiqi Gao Organization: Spectrum Healthcare Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu, djgpp@delorie.com Subject: ANNOUNCE: pdftex-DJGPP.zip uploaded to CTAN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Hi, I have uploaded the DJGPP v.2.01 compiled executables of pdftex to CTAN. Here's the README file: ==========README==========8<==========8<==========8<==========8<== This archive conatins DOS executables of PDFTeX compiled with DJGPP version 2.01. To install, you need to have installed the DJGPP port of web2c and friends by Eli Zaretskii. You can find them on ${CTAN}/systems/msdos/djgpp/ or the DJGPP archive. You also need the source distribution of PDFTeX, pdftex.tar.gz, >From ${CTAN}/systems/pdftex. For a quick installation, you need to: 1. Copy the executables to a directory in your PATH 2. Copy pdftex.pool to ${TEXMF}/share/web2c 3. Copy the content of the web2c\libpdf\etc to ${TEXMF}\pdftex 4. Use the texmf.cnf in this archive as a base, modify your texmf.cnf file. Pay attention to the TEXINPUTS.pdftex line and the TEXPSHEADERS line. 5. Generate the format files with the commands pdftex -ini plain \dump cp plain.fmt ${TEXMF}\web2c\pdftex.fmt pdftex -ini latex.ltx cp latex.fmt ${TEXMF}\web2c\pdflatex.fmt 6. Run MakeTeXls-R to update the path search database. You'll also need a set of Type 1 fonts. You can use, for example, the BaKoMa fonts found at ${CTAN}/fonts/cm/ps-type1/bakoma/. To create interesting PDF files, you'll certainly need the HyperRef package. This package has a pdftex option. Happy PDFTeXing Weiqi Gao (weiqigao@a.crl.com) ==========README==========8<==========8<==========8<==========8<== I will upload a ready to make, and ready to install version of pdftex to the DJGPP archive when I have sorted everything out. It'll take a couple more nights, I'm afraid. If you have installed the Adobe Acrobat Reader and the associated Netscape plug-in, take a look at (pdftex list people need not to) http://www.sluug.org/~weiqigao/example.pdf for a simple example. (the site is "Powered by Volunteers", so be gentle.) -- Weiqi Gao weiqigao@a.crl.com From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Sun Sep 21 05:23:52 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04922 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 05:23:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id HAA05958 for pdftex-outgoing; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 07:26:50 -0400 Received: from iti.upv.es (goya.iti.upv.es [158.42.51.3]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id HAA05954 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 07:26:41 -0400 Received: from kant.iti.upv.es by goya.iti.upv.es with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA28639; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 13:15:29 +0200 Message-Id: <342501EE.46C4ACFD@dsic.upv.es> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 13:15:58 +0200 From: Alfons Juan Ciscar Organization: Universidad Politecnica de Valencia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: Debian TeTeX pdftex configuration References: <34223D50.1482AD97@dsic.upv.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Richard Tietjen wrote: > > Thanks, Alfons > > Did you compile tetex as well as installing the source? Your report > suggests to me that pdftex is hard-wired to look in /usr/local// for > its inputs. And that I may have to set all those variables in the > environment. > > >>>>> On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:52:32 +0200, Alfons Juan Ciscar said: > > Alfons> Richard Tietjen wrote: > >> Problem: pdflatex and pdftex don't find their support files, > >> such as pdflatex.fmt or article.cls. correctly from reading > >> variables in the kpathsea texmf.cnf file > >> > Alfons> ... > > >> Have others had similar problems? Shouldn't it derive its > >> settings from texmf.cnf? Is this a misunderstanding on my part > >> or a bug in pdftex? > >> > >> Thanks. > > Alfons> I also have a Debian/GNU Linux distribution installed > Alfons> which comes with teTeX 0.4. To get pdftex and pdflatex > Alfons> running, i installed the source of teTeX 0.9 > Alfons> (ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-hannover.de/home/te/private/.0.9) > Alfons> in /usr/local (follow the installing instructions given in > Alfons> QuickInstall.src). > > Alfons> -- Alfons Juan, http://kant.iti.upv.es/~ajuan. I downloaded the files teTeX-texmf-0.9.tar.gz and teTeX-src-0.9.tar.gz >From ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-hannover.de/home/te/private/.0.9 and saved them in a new directory /usr/local/teTeX. Then, in this directory, i followed the installing instructions given in the file QuickInstall.src, which include source compilation. Here they are: ============================================================================= Quick-Install ============================================================================= mkdir -p /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf gzip -dc teTeX-texmf-0.9.tar.gz | (umask 0; cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf; tar xvf -) gzip -dc teTeX-src-0.9.tar.gz | tar xvf - cd teTeX-0.9 ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/teTeX make world >& world.log Now, make sure to put the newly created binaries into your PATH, e.g. PATH=/usr/local/teTeX/bin/i586-pc-linux-gnu; export PATH or setenv PATH /usr/local/teTeX/bin/i586-pc-linux-gnu:$PATH and run texconfig confall and check if all the output looks ok and then run texconfig to configure what you need. -----------> end of Quick-Install You will find more details in the file INSTALL.src. Hope you have a successful installation, -- Alfons Juan, http://kant.iti.upv.es/~ajuan. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 29 04:47:24 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA11521 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 04:47:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA15286 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 06:38:09 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id GAA15282 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 06:38:00 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15098 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:26:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:26:21 +0100 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:19:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4244-Mon29Sep1997111920+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 7 Q) From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: changes to hyperref Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu The next version of hyperref will have quite a few changes, including working with the varioref, and the xr package (which will be re-issued with the necessary hooks). But I would like to ask anyone in this forum using hyperref what options they would like. I currently plan to support the following options via a uniform keyval interface. If it isnt more or less obvious what the options do, ask me. Is this list sufficient? Where else do you want to tailor your automated PDF output from LaTeX? `extension', by the way, is the file extension to use if you read a label from another .aux file. ie if you read other.aux, do you want a link to other.dvi#label or other.pdf#label? Configuration: breaklinks nesting plainpages raiselinks debug draft Options: hyperfigures hyperindex backref bookmarks extension Appearance: anchorcolor citebordercolor colorlinks destcolor filebordercolor filecolor linkbordercolor linkcolor pageanchor pagebordercolor pdfborder pdffit urlbordercolor urlcolor Drivers: hypertex latex2html ps2pdf pdfmark pdftex dvipdf dvips dvipsone dviwindo Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 29 05:33:40 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA12311 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 05:33:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id GAA15286 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 06:38:09 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id GAA15282 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 06:38:00 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15098 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:26:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:26:21 +0100 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:19:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4244-Mon29Sep1997111920+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 7 Q) From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: changes to hyperref Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu The next version of hyperref will have quite a few changes, including working with the varioref, and the xr package (which will be re-issued with the necessary hooks). But I would like to ask anyone in this forum using hyperref what options they would like. I currently plan to support the following options via a uniform keyval interface. If it isnt more or less obvious what the options do, ask me. Is this list sufficient? Where else do you want to tailor your automated PDF output from LaTeX? `extension', by the way, is the file extension to use if you read a label from another .aux file. ie if you read other.aux, do you want a link to other.dvi#label or other.pdf#label? Configuration: breaklinks nesting plainpages raiselinks debug draft Options: hyperfigures hyperindex backref bookmarks extension Appearance: anchorcolor citebordercolor colorlinks destcolor filebordercolor filecolor linkbordercolor linkcolor pageanchor pagebordercolor pdfborder pdffit urlbordercolor urlcolor Drivers: hypertex latex2html ps2pdf pdfmark pdftex dvipdf dvips dvipsone dviwindo Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 29 17:05:48 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16185 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id TAA15924 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:13:36 -0400 Received: from domain2 (cpccux0.cityu.edu.hk [144.214.5.253]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA15920 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:13:30 -0400 Received: from domain1.cityu.edu.hk by domain2 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA11633; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 07:00:54 +0800 Received: from hilarycheng by domain1.cityu.edu.hk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA29256; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 07:01:21 +0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970107070121.0071f43c@pop.netaddress.com> X-Sender: hilarycheng@pop.netaddress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 07:01:21 +0800 To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu From: Hilary Cheng Subject: About PDFTEX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu I would like to ask about PDFTEX. I got a Java API doc in HTML Format. I would like to convert it into PDF with hyperlink. Is that possible to use HTML to LaTeX... and then use PDFTEX to convert LaTeX to PDF ? Best Regards, Hilary Cheng From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Mon Sep 29 17:29:04 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16698 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:29:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id TAA15984 for pdftex-outgoing; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:37:46 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA15980 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:37:40 -0400 Received: from graves.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id aa18694; 30 Sep 97 0:26 +0100 Subject: Re: changes to hyperref To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:26:47 +0100 (BST) From: Timothy Murphy In-Reply-To: <4244-Mon29Sep1997111920+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> from "Sebastian Rahtz" at Sep 29, 97 11:19:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <9709300026.aa13166@graves.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > > I currently plan to support the following options via a uniform keyval > interface. If it isnt more or less obvious what the options do, ask > me. Is this list sufficient? Where else do you want to tailor your > automated PDF output from LaTeX? I'd like all the hyperTeX "standards" to be allowed optional [...] arguments (using the usual key=value syntax). I've always found hyperref very useful, reliable and intelligible. If I had to criticise it, I would say that it is getting too tailored to specific programs. I'd prefer to see as much as possible done with "universal" macros, obviously with specific interpretations added for each program. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 30 03:00:27 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27493 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 03:00:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA16446 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 05:06:06 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA16439 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 05:05:54 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20149 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:54:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:54:33 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:38:40 +0100 Message-ID: <4251-Tue30Sep1997093840+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: changes to hyperref In-Reply-To: <9709300026.aa13166@graves.maths.tcd.ie> References: <4244-Mon29Sep1997111920+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <9709300026.aa13166@graves.maths.tcd.ie> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > > I'd like all the hyperTeX "standards" to be allowed optional [...] arguments > (using the usual key=value syntax). um, not sure what you mean. you mean you want to be able to say \href[linkcolor=red]{xxx}{yy} ? if thats whats required, i can imagine making it work > I would say that it is getting too tailored to specific programs. > I'd prefer to see as much as possible done with "universal" macros, > obviously with specific interpretations added for each program. > i dont disagree with you; thats one of my aims in a rewrite, to let you specify behaviour in a uniform format. if you say [bookmarks], it just does nothing if you use hypertex driver sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 30 03:01:51 1997 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27515 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 03:01:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id FAA16447 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 05:06:06 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id FAA16438 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 05:05:53 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20138 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:54:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:54:27 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:35:34 +0100 Message-ID: <4283-Tue30Sep1997093534+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> From: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Subject: Re: About PDFTEX In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970107070121.0071f43c@pop.netaddress.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19970107070121.0071f43c@pop.netaddress.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Hilary Cheng writes: > I would like to ask about PDFTEX. I got a Java API doc in HTML Format. I > would like to convert it into PDF with hyperlink. Is that possible to use > HTML to LaTeX... and then use PDFTEX to convert LaTeX to PDF ? > look at David Carlisle's typehtml package; that lets you process HTML (if its not too hard) directly with (pdf)LaTeX. Might work. or you could translate the HTML to TeX; you could either use one of the SGML->whatever translators to write an HTML to LaTeX, or (if you feel pretty strong) use DSSSL. James Clark's Jade implementation of DSSSL has a TeX backend, the output of which you can process with pdftex. I could explain about DSSSL in greater detail if anyone cares, but this is probably the wrong forum. Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 30 10:27:24 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06297 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:27:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA16813 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:48:37 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA16809 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:48:31 -0400 Received: from graves.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id aa04678; 30 Sep 97 16:37 +0100 Subject: Re: changes to hyperref To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:37:37 +0100 (BST) From: Timothy Murphy In-Reply-To: <4251-Tue30Sep1997093840+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> from "Sebastian Rahtz" at Sep 30, 97 09:38:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <9709301637.aa23256@graves.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > > > I'd like all the hyperTeX "standards" to be allowed optional [...] arguments > > (using the usual key=value syntax). > um, not sure what you mean. you mean you want to be able to say > \href[linkcolor=red]{xxx}{yy} Exactly. I imagine it would be then possible for style files to define further key=value possibilities if desired. Eg I'd like to be able to specify the size of the link "box" in this way. At present xdvi for example goes to inordinate trouble to compute the bounds of this box. In practice I think people nearly always specify a TeX/LaTeX box to contain this material, but then it is difficult to pass on the dimensions of the box to the driver. As far as I can see, pdftex uses the "current" box, which might mean many things. From owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Tue Sep 30 10:30:07 1997 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.cs.umb.edu (daemon@tug.cs.umb.edu [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06349 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:30:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA16820 for pdftex-outgoing; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:51:16 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.cs.umb.edu (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id LAA16816 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:51:11 -0400 Received: from graves.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id aa04914; 30 Sep 97 16:40 +0100 Subject: Re: About PDFTEX To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:40:10 +0100 (BST) From: Timothy Murphy In-Reply-To: <4283-Tue30Sep1997093534+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> from "Sebastian Rahtz" at Sep 30, 97 09:35:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <9709301640.aa23326@graves.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu > > I could explain about DSSSL in greater detail if anyone cares, but > this is probably the wrong forum. > I would certainly find a short description useful. I looked at DSSSL (as an alternative to "linuxdoc") but gave up when I found the documentation was several hundred pages long. But as you say, this is probably not the right forum.