29-Feb-2000 19:42:52-GMT,2692;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15462 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:42:50 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21263 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:48:47 -0500 Received: from relay21.smtp.psi.net (relay21.smtp.psi.net [38.8.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21260 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:48:36 -0500 Received: from [38.32.79.4] (helo=MAURITIUS.tiac.net) by relay21.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 12Prgy-0005fX-00; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:48:21 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.0.20000229134708.07736008@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:48:59 -0500 To: Norman Carver , pdftex@tug.org From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: Solved: ps to pdf and embedded fonts Cc: carver@csmail.cs.siu.edu In-Reply-To: <200002272335.RAA06129@cs.siu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk (1) Make sure to page through the whole document, so that all fonts are *touched*. Some information is only available after it has used that font to rasterize something. (2) Some fonts may be included complete rather than subsetted. This depends on the method you used to create the PDF file. In Distiller you can control at what point it will include the whole font. The default is when 35% or more of the characters are used. For smallest PDF files, increase this setting to 100% At 05:35 PM 2/27/2000 -0600, Norman Carver wrote: >Thanks to a couple of people's assistance, >my problem was solved (by adding uppercase >aliases to the fontmap file for dvips). > >I do have one last question, though. When >using Adobe's reader, and doing looking at >the document fonts (File>Document Info>Fonts), >after going through the paper, I have a very >large list of fonts that looks like: > >Original Font Type Encoding Used Font Type >CMBX12 Type 1 Built-in Embedded Subset Type 1 >... >CMR6 Type 1 Built-in >... >Helvetica Type 1 Standard Helvetica Type 1 > > >My question is: why are there some fonts listed that >do not include the "embedded subset" part, and why >is Helvetica listed. Are these fonts just referenced >in some way, but not used, or are they used and for some >reason were not embedded? All the CM fonts listed are >in the fontmap file for dvips. > >Thanks, >Norm -- Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) 1-Mar-2000 12:20:29-GMT,1826;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09501 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 05:20:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA23654 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:33:00 -0500 Received: from imfep02.prod.kcom.ne.jp (imfep02.kcom.ne.jp [210.174.120.146]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23651 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:32:58 -0500 Received: from B01p3woc5UW ([210.230.97.73]) by imfep02.prod.kcom.ne.jp (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000301113255.CYXR16882.imfep02.prod.kcom.ne.jp@B01p3woc5UW>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:32:55 +0900 Message-ID: <000001bf8371$f727ff80$4961e6d2@B01p3woc5UW> From: "Wei-Xue Shi" To: "Han The Thanh" , "pdfTeX" References: <200002230921.KAA28401@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14e release Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:02:08 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have downloaded the pdftex-src-20000217.tgz and try to compile it with tetex-1.0.6, but the GNU make gave me the error message: No rule to make tex-c-style.ch needed by pdftex.ch I checked the tetex-1.0.6, indeed there is no the file: tex-c-style.ch. Where can I get the file: tex-c-style.ch? Wei-Xue Shi ----- Original Message ----- > Hi, > > pdftex-0.14e is available at > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/0.14e > > Thanh > 1-Mar-2000 14:34:38-GMT,1548;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12490 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:34:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24021 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:04:31 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24018 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:04:28 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06769; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:04:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA27608; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:04:19 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200003011404.PAA27608@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14e release In-Reply-To: <000001bf8371$f727ff80$4961e6d2@B01p3woc5UW> from Wei-Xue Shi at "Mar 1, 0 07:02:08 pm" To: wxshi@ma.neweb.ne.jp (Wei-Xue Shi) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:04:19 +0100 (MET) Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk get the latest beta tetex sources. Or you can get only things from tetex that are needed for compiling pdftex at ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/tetex-supp.tgz Thanh 1-Mar-2000 14:36:12-GMT,1813;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12542 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:36:09 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24016 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:03:37 -0500 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24013 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:03:32 -0500 Received: from toucan.stats (toucan.stats [163.1.20.20]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA05154; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:03:28 GMT Message-Id: <200003011403.OAA05154@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:03:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Prof Brian Ripley Reply-To: Prof Brian Ripley Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14e release To: pdftex@tug.org, wxshi@ma.neweb.ne.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: EIKs1LT/9yvNNcgkwTsX2Q== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > From: "Wei-Xue Shi" > > I have downloaded the pdftex-src-20000217.tgz and try to compile it with > tetex-1.0.6, You need the teTeX beta, not the release version. I used teTeX-src-beta-20000201.tar.gz, but doubtless there are later ones now. See systems/unix/teTeX-beta/teTeX-src-beta.tar.gz on any CTAN node. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 1-Mar-2000 16:15:12-GMT,1827;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15204 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:15:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24553 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:25:56 -0500 Received: from villi.usask.ca (IDENT:root@villi.usask.ca [128.233.17.87]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24548 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:25:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (ildar@localhost) by villi.usask.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03071; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:25:23 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:25:23 -0600 (CST) From: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov To: Wei-Xue Shi cc: Han The Thanh , pdfTeX Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14e release In-Reply-To: <000001bf8371$f727ff80$4961e6d2@B01p3woc5UW> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I had this problem too. The easiest way around this problem is to use tetex-supp.tgz which can be found at Han The Thanh's ftp site. Sincerely Ildar On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Wei-Xue Shi wrote: > Hi, > > I have downloaded the pdftex-src-20000217.tgz and try to compile it with > tetex-1.0.6, > but the GNU make gave me the error message: > > No rule to make tex-c-style.ch needed by pdftex.ch > > I checked the tetex-1.0.6, indeed there is no the file: tex-c-style.ch. > Where can I get the file: tex-c-style.ch? > > Wei-Xue Shi > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Hi, > > > > pdftex-0.14e is available at > > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/0.14e > > > > Thanh > > > 1-Mar-2000 18:18:02-GMT,2514;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19266 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:17:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25337 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:33:31 -0500 Received: from isy.liu.se (root@isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25330 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:33:29 -0500 Received: from vaz.isy.liu.se (vaz.isy.liu.se [130.236.50.217]) by isy.liu.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA12930 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:33:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost by vaz.isy.liu.se (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id SAA16601; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:33:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:33:14 +0100 (MET) From: Erik Frisk To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14e release In-Reply-To: <200003011404.PAA27608@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Han The Thanh wrote: > get the latest beta tetex sources. > > Or you can get only things from tetex that are needed for compiling pdftex at > ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/tetex-supp.tgz Ah, this is good. I have missed the precompiled Solaris binaries that were available for earlier releases. I have not the teTeX source tree left, I removed it after I compiled teTeX, therefore have I not upgraded pdftex for a while since I thought you had to have the full teTeX source-tree left. But the tetex-supp.tgz file seems to suit me just fine, but I have one problem when compiling pdftex and this is probably a stupid question, but I can't find any Makefile or similar. And I can't seem to find any readme or anything that explains how to compile. Anyone who can explain this to me? /E --------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Frisk email: frisk@isy.liu.se Dept. of Electrical Engineering tel: +46 13 285714 Vehicular Systems fax: +46 13 282035 Linköping University S-581 83 Linköping SWEDEN www.vehicular.isy.liu.se/~frisk --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Mar-2000 8:46:26-GMT,2709;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12553 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 01:46:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA27772 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:12:00 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27769 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:11:57 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15502; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:11:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA18516; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:11:54 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200003020811.JAA18516@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14e release In-Reply-To: from Erik Frisk at "Mar 1, 0 06:33:14 pm" To: frisk@isy.liu.se (Erik Frisk) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:11:54 +0100 (MET) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > get the latest beta tetex sources. > > > > Or you can get only things from tetex that are needed for compiling pdftex at > > ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/tetex-supp.tgz > > Ah, this is good. I have missed the precompiled Solaris binaries that were > available for earlier releases. I have not the teTeX source tree left, I > removed it after I compiled teTeX, therefore have I not upgraded pdftex > for a while since I thought you had to have the full teTeX source-tree > left. > > But the tetex-supp.tgz file seems to suit me just fine, but I have one > problem when compiling pdftex and this is probably a stupid question, but > I can't find any Makefile or similar. And I can't seem to find any readme > or anything that explains how to compile. > > Anyone who can explain this to me? I added the following as ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/README: o How to build pdftex from sources - download ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/tetex-supp.tgz and unpack it somewhere, let's say to /tmp - download the latest pdftexsrc-.tgz from the same location and unpack it to /tmp/src/texk/web2c - from /tmp/src/ run configure make pdftex - the binaries and pool files after building will be located in directory /tmp/src/texk/web2c Thanh 2-Mar-2000 14:34:58-GMT,1608;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19366 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:34:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA28508 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:41:47 -0500 Received: from ntserver.graylab.ac.uk (ntserver.graylab.ac.uk [193.61.195.125]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28505 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:41:44 -0500 Received: from pc2990.graylab.ac.uk ([193.61.195.37]) by ntserver.graylab.ac.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 800 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:37:54 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000302134359.00a6da00@graylab.ac.uk> X-Sender: pinto@graylab.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 13:43:59 +0000 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "Massimo Pinto" Subject: \pdfcatalog, /FullScreen hpw? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to figure out from the manual how to use \pdfcatalog. I have tried with \pdfcatalog{/Pagemode=/FullScreen} with evidently no success. Any help is very appreciated. Win95, fpTeX 0.3 distribution, Acrobat Reader 4.0 Thanks Massimo ------------------------------------------------ Massimo Pinto Gray Laboratory Cancer Research Trust ph: +44(0)1923.828611 fax: +44(0)1923.835210 pinto@graylab.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------- 2-Mar-2000 16:19:52-GMT,1924;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22279 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:19:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28793 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:40:15 -0500 Received: from portal.aerojet.com (portal.aerojet.com [192.149.4.254]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28790 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:40:12 -0500 Received: (from smapu@localhost) by portal.aerojet.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA19548 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1-az.aerojet.com(159.4.1.8) by portal.aerojet.com via smap (V1.3) id sma019478; Thu Mar 2 07:38:59 2000 Received: from azu-public1.aes.com ([159.4.100.109]) by radon.aes.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA103526 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:38:59 -0800 Received: by azu-public1.aes.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <14DZ01R5>; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:38:59 -0800 Message-ID: From: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: FAQ request Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:38:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone attempted to answer the proto-FAQ "How do I use a TrueType font in pdfLaTeX?". The on line FAQ recognizes that it's a FAQ, but no one has provided an answer. While I understand the basics of fonts in TeX, I've never had occasion to learn the NFSS, so I suppose part of my question is really a LaTeX2e question as well, but before I started experimenting, I thought I'd ask if anyone had already compiled a basic "how to". Thanks Mark 2-Mar-2000 17:04:41-GMT,1485;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23618 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:04:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29007 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:28:40 -0500 Received: from ntserver.graylab.ac.uk (ntserver.graylab.ac.uk [193.61.195.125]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29004 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:28:39 -0500 Received: from pc2990.graylab.ac.uk ([193.61.195.37]) by ntserver.graylab.ac.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 591 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:24:50 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000302163054.00823790@graylab.ac.uk> X-Sender: pinto@graylab.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:30:54 +0000 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "Massimo Pinto" Subject: \pdfcatalog, /FullScreen how? (sorted) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk SORTED! Sorry for bothering you all. just without the "=" sign. \pdfcatalog{/Pagemode/FullScreen} Thanks Massimo ------------------------------------------------ Massimo Pinto Gray Laboratory Cancer Research Trust ph: +44(0)1923.828611 fax: +44(0)1923.835210 pinto@graylab.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------- 2-Mar-2000 18:08:39-GMT,1528;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25760 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:08:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29514 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:42:54 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA29510 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:42:51 -0500 Received: from remote142-120.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.120] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12QZcd-0005aK-00; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:42:47 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000302184406.0079d3d0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 18:44:06 +0100 To: "Massimo Pinto" , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: \pdfcatalog, /FullScreen hpw? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000302134359.00a6da00@graylab.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 13:43 02.03.00 +0000, Massimo Pinto wrote: >\pdfcatalog{/Pagemode=/FullScreen} \pdfcatalog{/PageMode /FullScreen} (look at the pdf specification at www.adobe.com). or with LaTeX you can use package hyperref. Yours sincerely Heiko 2-Mar-2000 20:39:33-GMT,2610;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00692 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:39:31 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA30280 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:02:34 -0500 Received: from ntserver.graylab.ac.uk (ntserver.graylab.ac.uk [193.61.195.125]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA30277 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:02:32 -0500 Received: from pc2990.graylab.ac.uk ([193.61.195.37]) by ntserver.graylab.ac.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 380 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:58:42 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000302200459.008f4a30@graylab.ac.uk> X-Sender: pinto@graylab.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 20:04:59 +0000 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "Massimo Pinto" Subject: a problem for which I can't find the solution in the PDF manual. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Apologies for posting three messages on the list, on the first day I join. I am trying to make pdftex work with the conversion of eps to pdf, but since I cannot make it work, I have thought it would be wise to test the installation, as it comes fronm the installation of fptex 0.3. As suggested on the manual, I run pdftex on the file example.tex Here we go: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2c 7.3.1) [c:/TEX/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, n ohyphenation, loaded. (example.tex (c:/TEX/texmf/tex/eplain/eplain.tex) (c:/TEX/texmf/pdftex/plain/misc/pdfcolor.tex) ! Undefined control sequence. \@columns ...umns \advance \vsize by -\ht \topins \ifvoid \topins \else \adv... l.7 \doublecolumns ? It sounds strange. What is wrong? After a copule of carriage returns: ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.81 T he main purpose of the following program is to explain the algorithms ... ? Please help. Best regards Massimo Pinto ------------------------------------------------ Massimo Pinto Gray Laboratory Cancer Research Trust ph: +44(0)1923.828611 fax: +44(0)1923.835210 pinto@graylab.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------- 3-Mar-2000 8:45:32-GMT,1925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA18376 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:45:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA32146 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 03:19:13 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA32143 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 03:19:10 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04828; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:19:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29312; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:19:07 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200003030819.JAA29312@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: a problem for which I can't find the solution in the PDF manual. In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000302200459.008f4a30@graylab.ac.uk> from Massimo Pinto at "Mar 2, 0 08:04:59 pm" To: pinto@graylab.ac.uk (Massimo Pinto) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:19:07 +0100 (MET) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Apologies for posting three messages on the list, on the first day I join. > I am trying to make pdftex work with the conversion of eps to pdf, but > since I cannot make it work, I have thought it would be wise to test the > installation, as it comes fronm the installation of fptex 0.3. As suggested > on the manual, I run pdftex on the file example.tex example.te is out-of-date and should be replaced by ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/samplepdf.zip I also suggest upgrading your pdftex (0.13d is too old). Thanh 3-Mar-2000 8:58:40-GMT,2998;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA18585 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 01:58:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA32156 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 03:21:34 -0500 Received: from mail-server-1.star.net.uk (mail-server-1.star.net.uk [195.216.16.165]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA32153 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 03:21:26 -0500 From: david.waller@westsig.co.uk X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 22341 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 08:21:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netstar.invensys.com) (212.125.65.20) by mail-server-1.star.net.uk with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 08:21:23 -0000 Received: by netstar.invensys.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 80256897.002DB787 ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:19:21 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: BTR To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <80256897.002DB68E.00@netstar.invensys.com> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:17:57 +0000 Subject: Re: FAQ request Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk An excellent article on how to use True Type fonts with pdflatex is provided at: http://www.radamir.com/tex/ttf-tex.htm I have successfully used this document to install a variety of true type fonts onto a windows platform for use with pdflatex. David Waller Has anyone attempted to answer the proto-FAQ "How do I use a TrueType font in pdfLaTeX?". The on line FAQ recognizes that it's a FAQ, but no one has provided an answer. While I understand the basics of fonts in TeX, I've never had occasion to learn the NFSS, so I suppose part of my question is really a LaTeX2e question as well, but before I started experimenting, I thought I'd ask if anyone had already compiled a basic "how to". Thanks Mark ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp 3-Mar-2000 9:05:15-GMT,2150;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA18723 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 02:05:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA32169 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 03:26:48 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA32166 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 03:26:46 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05912; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:26:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29654; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:26:40 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200003030826.JAA29654@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: FAQ request In-Reply-To: from "Wroth, Mark" at "Mar 2, 0 07:38:56 am" To: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:26:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone attempted to answer the proto-FAQ "How do I use a TrueType font > in pdfLaTeX?". The on line FAQ recognizes that it's a FAQ, but no one has > provided an answer. > > While I understand the basics of fonts in TeX, I've never had occasion to > learn the NFSS, so I suppose part of my question is really a LaTeX2e > question as well, but before I started experimenting, I thought I'd ask if > anyone had already compiled a basic "how to". you can have a look at http://www.radamir.com/tex/ttf-tex.htm In general using ttf with pdftex is almost identical to using Type1 fonts; the only extra step is to get the afm from ttf using ttf2afm. In most cases it's enough to run e.g. ttf2afm -e 8r.enc -o verdana.afm verdana.ttf Run ttf2afm without arguments to get more info about the program. Thanh 3-Mar-2000 17:50:55-GMT,1790;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00687 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:50:53 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01867 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:06:56 -0500 Received: from admin.di.fc.ul.pt (admin.di.fc.ul.pt [194.117.22.41]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01864 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:06:51 -0500 Received: from di.fc.ul.pt (nneves.di.fc.ul.pt [194.117.22.35]) by admin.di.fc.ul.pt (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA22802 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 17:06:38 GMT Message-ID: <38BFF129.4743AD7B@di.fc.ul.pt> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 17:06:49 +0000 From: Nuno Miguel Neves Organization: Departamento de =?iso-8859-1?Q?Inform=E1tica?= da Fac. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ci=EAncias?= da UL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: pt, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFLaTeX List Subject: Hyperref and forms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am sorry if this is an obvious one, but I can't find anything about real examples of hyperref forms. I would like to create a field in wich one could write in Acrobat Reader, and I know that hyperref does that, but I can't find any example! :-( If anyone could point it out to me, or send me a little example of that, I'd appreciate it :-) Thanks in advance, -- nneves@di.fc.ul.pt Dept. Informatica, Fac. Ciencias, |\ | |\ | Tel: +351 21 7500058 Univ. Lisboa, Bloco C5, Campo Grande | \|uno | \|eves Fax: +351 21 7500084 1700 Lisboa, Portugal 3-Mar-2000 20:51:10-GMT,1802;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06402 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:51:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02435 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:15:30 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02432 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:15:27 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12QyTr-0003P5-00; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:15:23 +0000 Received: from max33.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.33] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12QyTq-0006Cl-00; Fri, 03 Mar 2000 20:15:23 +0000 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14528.6557.34359.228862@localhost.localdomain> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:59:25 +0000 (GMT) To: nneves@di.fc.ul.pt Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Hyperref and forms In-Reply-To: <38BFF129.4743AD7B@di.fc.ul.pt> References: <38BFF129.4743AD7B@di.fc.ul.pt> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Nuno Miguel Neves writes: > I am sorry if this is an obvious one, but I can't find anything about real > examples of hyperref forms. > I would like to create a field in wich one could write in Acrobat Reader, > and I know that hyperref does that, but I can't find any example! :-( how about the file testform.tex that comes with hyperref? boa noite sebastian 4-Mar-2000 22:20:19-GMT,4593;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08329 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:20:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04873 for pdftex-list; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:28:49 -0500 Received: from sp2n17.missouri.edu (sp2n17-t.missouri.edu [128.206.2.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04870 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:28:48 -0500 Received: from [128.206.145.120] ([128.206.145.120]) by sp2n17.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA78618 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:28:13 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:28:08 -0600 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Oscar Chavez Subject: graphicx package Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I wrote a document, and I am using the graphicx package. These are the packages that my document loads: \documentclass[twoside]{article} \usepackage[spanish]{babel} \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc} \usepackage{multicol} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \usepackage{amsmath,amssymb} \usepackage{fancyhdr} \usepackage{utopia} And within the document, the figures are included as follows: \begin{center} \includegraphics[width=6.5in]{ficom.pdf} \end{center} And this is what I get: ! Undefined control sequence. ...setbox \@tempboxa =\hbox {\pdfimage {\Gin@base .pdf}}\else \se... l.33 \includegraphics[width=6.5in]{ficom.pdf} I thought that the pdftex option in the graphicx package should take care of this kind of things. ----------- If for understanding this behavior, the full log is needed, here it is: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (CMacTeX) (ficom1_pdf.tex{/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/Pdf/texinputs/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1999/06/01> patch level 1 (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/base/size10.clo)) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/source/generic/babel/babel.def (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/source/generic/babel/switch.def)) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/generic/babel/spanish.ldf Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for (babel) the language `Spanish' (babel) I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 instead. )) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/generic/babel/spanish.llf) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/base/inputenc.sty beta test version (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/base/applemac.def )) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/tools/multicol.sty) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/graphics/graphics.cfg) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def))) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amsmath.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amstext.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amsgen.sty)) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amsbsy.sty) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amsopn.sty)) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amssymb.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amsfonts.sty)) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/fancyhdr/fancyhdr.sty) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/psnfss/utopia.sty) (ficom1_pdf.aux) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/psnfss/ot1put.fd) ! Undefined control sequence. ...setbox \@tempboxa =\hbox {\pdfimage {\Gin@base .pdf}}\else \se... l.33 \includegraphics[width=6.5in]{ficom.pdf} ? x No pages of output. Transcript written on ficom1_pdf.log. Elapsed time = 39.8 sec. -------------- _______________________________________________________________________ Oscar Chavez Mathematics Education 104 Stewart Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211-6180 oc918@mizzou.edu tel: (573) 882-4521 fax: (573) 882-4481 5-Mar-2000 1:19:07-GMT,1485;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11667 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 18:19:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05372 for pdftex-list; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 19:26:55 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA05369 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 19:26:53 -0500 Received: from remote142-143.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.143] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12ROsk-0002lW-00; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:26:50 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000305012646.3407f304@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 01:26:46 +0100 To: Oscar Chavez , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: graphicx package In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 15:28 04.03.2000 -0600, Oscar Chavez wrote: > \includegraphics[width=6.5in]{ficom.pdf} > ...setbox \@tempboxa =\hbox {\pdfimage http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def or CTAN:macros/pdftex/graphics/pdftex.def Yours sincerely Heiko 5-Mar-2000 5:57:18-GMT,1566;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16773 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:57:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA06026 for pdftex-list; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:54:22 -0500 Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06023 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:54:16 -0500 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (p2488.net10.usyd.edu.au [10.0.9.184]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00555 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:54:12 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <38C1EA14.DD964F3C@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:01:08 +1100 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: pk resolution and \mag Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, In my pdftex.cfg file I have pk_resolution 600. If I remove the cmr10 entry from my map file and then pdftex a file that says \magnification=\magstep1 Hello \bye then pdftex looks for the pk file for the font cmr10 at 600dpi. Is this the correct behaviour? -- I would have expected it to look for 720 dpi. (e.g. if I run tex and dvips then dvips looks for the 720 dpi version -- I have D 600 in my config.ps.) Bob Howlett 5-Mar-2000 8:20:20-GMT,4193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA19685 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:20:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA06770 for pdftex-list; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 02:15:16 -0500 Received: from sp2n17.missouri.edu (sp2n17-t.missouri.edu [128.206.2.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA06765 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 02:15:14 -0500 Received: from [128.206.145.105] ([128.206.145.105]) by sp2n17.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA95908 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:14:36 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000305012646.3407f304@localhost> References: <3.0.1.16.20000305012646.3407f304@localhost> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:14:27 -0600 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Oscar Chavez Subject: Re: graphicx package Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 1:26 AM +0100 3/5/00, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def or >CTAN:macros/pdftex/graphics/pdftex.def I'm sorry, but maybe I did not understand something. I put this pdftex.def file in the same folder where the other files of the graphics package are: TeX:Inputs:LaTeX:graphics:pdftex.def <--- here it is now Still, pdftex looks at another folder where I have a copy of this file: texmf:tex:latex:graphics:pdftex.def But I got the exact same error message. This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (CMacTeX) (ficom1_pdf.tex{/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/Pdf/texinputs/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1999/06/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, english, spanish, loaded. (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/base/size10.clo)) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/generic/babel/spanish.ldf (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/source/generic/babel/babel.def))) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/generic/babel/spanish.llf) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/base/inputenc.sty beta test version (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/base/applemac.def )) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/tools/multicol.sty) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/graphics/graphics.cfg) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def))) <--- look here (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amsmath.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amstext.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amsgen.sty)) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amsbsy.sty) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amsopn.sty)) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amssymb.sty (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/amslatex/amsfonts.sty)) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/texmf/tex/latex/fancyhdr/fancyhdr.sty) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/psnfss/utopia.sty) (ficom1_pdf.aux) (/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/Inputs/LaTeX/psnfss/ot1put.fd) ! 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What am I doing wrong? _______________________________________________________________________ Oscar Chavez Mathematics Education 104 Stewart Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211-6180 oc918@mizzou.edu tel: (573) 882-4521 fax: (573) 882-4481 5-Mar-2000 13:48:25-GMT,2500;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA24986 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 06:48:24 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA07925 for pdftex-list; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 08:02:05 -0500 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07922 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 08:02:03 -0500 Received: from max122.public.ox.ac.uk (max122.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.122]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA14802; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:01:59 GMT Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:02:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Oscar Chavez cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: graphicx package In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Oscar Chavez wrote: > At 1:26 AM +0100 3/5/00, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > > >http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def or > >CTAN:macros/pdftex/graphics/pdftex.def > > I'm sorry, but maybe I did not understand something. I put this > pdftex.def file in the same folder where the other files of the > graphics package are: > > TeX:Inputs:LaTeX:graphics:pdftex.def <--- here it is now > > Still, pdftex looks at another folder where I have a copy of this file: > > texmf:tex:latex:graphics:pdftex.def > > But I got the exact same error message. Heiko was to the point but perhaps a little brief. To use pdftex-0.14 with graphicx, you need the current pdftex.def. Try replacing the old one with the new one (in texmf:tex:latex:graphics:). Your system appears to be set up to search texmf before TeX. Not knowing OzTex, I don't know if that is normal. I have our systems set up to search $(HOME)/texmf, then texmf_local then texmf (and the later is an unchanged teTeX tree), and put all the changes (such as this pdftex.def) under texmf_local. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 5-Mar-2000 16:51:17-GMT,2031;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28375 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 09:51:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08461 for pdftex-list; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:00:54 -0500 Received: from sp2n17.missouri.edu (sp2n17-t.missouri.edu [128.206.2.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08458 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:00:52 -0500 Received: from [128.206.145.27] (Mizzou-AS11-27.missouri.edu [128.206.145.27]) by sp2n17.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA34714; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 10:00:16 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 09:59:11 -0600 To: Prof Brian D Ripley From: Oscar Chavez Subject: Re: graphicx package Cc: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 1:02 PM +0000 3/5/00, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote: > >Heiko was to the point but perhaps a little brief. To use pdftex-0.14 with >graphicx, you need the current pdftex.def. Try replacing the old one with >the new one (in texmf:tex:latex:graphics:). Thank you very much. You were exactly right. The one pdftex was repeatedly trying was not the current version. Now everything works fine. _____________________________________________________________________ Oscar Chavez You can only find truth with logic if Mathematics Education you have already found truth without it. 104 Stewart Hall University of Missouri The Man who was Orthodox Columbia, MO 65211-6180 G. K. Chesterton oc918@mizzou.edu tel: (573) 882-4521 fax: (573) 882-4481 5-Mar-2000 16:56:39-GMT,1875;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28471 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 09:56:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08475 for pdftex-list; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:07:31 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08472 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:07:29 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20320 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 17:07:26 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA13451 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 17:07:24 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200003051607.RAA13451@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: graphicx package To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 17:07:24 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > >http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def or > >CTAN:macros/pdftex/graphics/pdftex.def > > I'm sorry, but maybe I did not understand something. I put this > pdftex.def file in the same folder where the other files of the > graphics package are: > > TeX:Inputs:LaTeX:graphics:pdftex.def <--- here it is now > > Still, pdftex looks at another folder where I have a copy of this file: > > texmf:tex:latex:graphics:pdftex.def > > But I got the exact same error message. make sure you have updated the context files supp-mis.tex and supp-pdf.tex as well. They are available from the same location as pdftex.def Thanh 5-Mar-2000 18:35:09-GMT,1556;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00367 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 11:35:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09008 for pdftex-list; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 12:48:35 -0500 Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se (root@kobra.efd.lth.se [130.235.34.36]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09004 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 12:48:32 -0500 Received: from fastpath (dialin-45-87.student.lu.se [130.235.245.217]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23872 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:48:30 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000305184223.009f1e80@mail.efd.lth.se> X-Sender: f94pc@mail.efd.lth.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 18:54:27 +0100 To: pdftex From: Patrik Carlsson Subject: Re: graphicx package In-Reply-To: <200003051607.RAA13451@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Related to this story I just want to ask about the metapost support in pdftex and graphicx, Is there a similar compatibility mode for simple tex (there is some other mp package around) or du you have to change either the code or have double versions of the pictures lying around. It would be good to be able to produce files for different installations than my own. Patrik 5-Mar-2000 20:10:35-GMT,2444;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02378 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:10:33 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09445 for pdftex-list; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:20:38 -0500 Received: from kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09442 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:20:35 -0500 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA01562 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:20:29 +0100 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:20:28 +0100 Message-Id: <200003051920.UAA01562@kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Problems with T1 (ec) fonts X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, if I run pdflatex on the file below I get wrong character spacings. The space after each character is (approximately?) as large as the character itself. It looks as if it would use 600 dpi fonts and 300 dpi metrics, but on the other hand, vertical spacing is ok. The formula is ok because type 1 fonts are used here, I suppose. The \fboxes are looking very strange. The output is ok if I use OT1 fonts or set \pdfoutput=0 or use latex instead of pdflatex. Can anyone reproduce that? Version: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-pretest-20000131 (Web2C 7.3.1) pk_resolution is 600 dpi. And here is the file: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \parindent0pt \fboxsep0pt \begin{document} Hello, World!\\ Hello, World! \[y=f(x)\] \fbox{Ab}\fbox{c}\fbox{d} \end{document} -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Mar-2000 22:11:16-GMT,2258;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04657 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:11:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA09896 for pdftex-list; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:53:09 -0500 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09893 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:53:08 -0500 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.147.165]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA3F98; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 21:52:26 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000305215101.015674c0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 21:51:01 +0100 To: Patrik Carlsson From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: graphicx package Cc: pdftex In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000305184223.009f1e80@mail.efd.lth.se> References: <200003051607.RAA13451@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 06:54 PM 3/5/2000 +0100, Patrik Carlsson wrote: >Related to this story I just want to ask >about the metapost support in pdftex and >graphicx, > >Is there a similar compatibility mode for >simple tex (there is some other mp package >around) or du you have to change either the >code or have double versions of the pictures >lying around. > >It would be good to be able to produce files >for different installations than my own. I'm not sure what you mean, but when you load supp-pdf.texin plain tex, you can use: \convertMPtoPDF {filename} {x scale} {y scale} to get the job done. In context one can simply use the \(use)externalfigure command which will sort our some other aspects too. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Mar-2000 22:24:20-GMT,2003;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04924 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:24:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10041 for pdftex-list; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:11:39 -0500 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (yuban-fddi.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.155.17]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10038 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:11:37 -0500 Received: (from vojta@localhost) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21200; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:11:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:11:33 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Vojta Message-Id: <200003052111.NAA21200@math.berkeley.edu> To: f94pc@efd.lth.se, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: graphicx package Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 18:54:27 +0100 > To: pdftex > From: Patrik Carlsson > Subject: Re: graphicx package > > Related to this story I just want to ask > about the metapost support in pdftex and > graphicx, > > Is there a similar compatibility mode for > simple tex (there is some other mp package > around) or du you have to change either the > code or have double versions of the pictures > lying around. > > It would be good to be able to produce files > for different installations than my own. When you say ``simple tex,'' do you mean pdftex with the plain macro package, original (non-pdf) tex, or both? In any case, when I use amstex and want to produce both dvi files and pdf files, here is what I do: \ifx\pdftexversion\undefined \input epsf \else \input supp-pdf \define\epsfbox#1{\hbox{\convertMPtoPDF{#1}{1}{1}}} \fi ...\epsfbox{figure.1}... This will probably work with plain tex. Note that all of my figures are produced by metapost; this won't work if some of your figures are from other sources. --Paul Vojta, vojta@math.berkeley.edu 6-Mar-2000 8:26:31-GMT,2645;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17045 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:26:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA12284 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:47:17 -0500 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12281 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:47:14 -0500 Received: from max123.public.ox.ac.uk (max123.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.123]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA17275; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:47:10 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:47:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Reinhard Kotucha cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problems with T1 (ec) fonts In-Reply-To: <200003051920.UAA01562@kammer.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > Hi, > if I run pdflatex on the file below I get wrong character > spacings. The space after each character is (approximately?) as large > as the character itself. It looks as if it would use 600 dpi fonts and > 300 dpi metrics, but on the other hand, vertical spacing is ok. > > The formula is ok because type 1 fonts are used here, I suppose. > > The \fboxes are looking very strange. > > The output is ok if I use OT1 fonts or set \pdfoutput=0 or use latex > instead of pdflatex. > > Can anyone reproduce that? It's fine here with the release version of 0.14e, in so far as using bitmap fonts with pdftex is ever desirable. I don't know what you want to do, but for my purposes, using ae to map T1 fonts to those with type 1 ps versions is much preferable. Just insert \usepackage{ae}. > Version: > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-pretest-20000131 (Web2C 7.3.1) > > pk_resolution is 600 dpi. > > And here is the file: > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \parindent0pt > \fboxsep0pt > \begin{document} > Hello, World!\\ > Hello, World! > > \[y=f(x)\] > > \fbox{Ab}\fbox{c}\fbox{d} > \end{document} -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 6-Mar-2000 11:08:28-GMT,2328;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA19955 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 04:08:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA13016 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:41:12 -0500 Received: from peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de (peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.204.217]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA13013 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:41:10 -0500 Received: (from frank@localhost) by peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19429; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:44:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14531.35870.707072.361654@peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:44:46 +0100 (MET) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: interaction pdftex, pdfslide and xy-pic Cc: Ross Moore , "C. V. Radhakrishnan" , "Kristoffer H. Rose" X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under Emacs 19.34.1 Reply-To: frank@sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de From: Frank Morawietz Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would like to prepare a presentation using the packages pdfslide and xy-pic via pdflatex (with post processor ppower4, but that's not the issue). For that I would like to color some arrows. While I found out how to do this in principle with the color option to xy (e.g. \xymatrix{ A \ar@*{[red]}[r] & B }), this relies on an appropriate driver (to implement the necessary specials). Unfortunately, there is no such driver (pdftex) for the xy package; at least not in my distribution (teTeX 1.07., texmf 1.0.2). Is there a quick solution for that? Can I use the pdftex-driver from some other package and just add more options to xypic? Or is there a different way of coloring some arrow (btw, coloring the entire diagram via the color package works, coloring the entry in one cell works too, whereas using it to color an arrow fails). If all of that is too complicated, are there other packages with the necessary support to draw trees decorated with arbitrary (colored) arrows? thanks for your help (and the excellent packages) -- frank 6-Mar-2000 11:41:03-GMT,3709;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20533 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 04:41:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA13324 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:13:18 -0500 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (bogo@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13319 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:13:14 -0500 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06502; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:12:52 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA00574; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:12:50 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200003061112.WAA00574@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: interaction pdftex, pdfslide and xy-pic In-Reply-To: <14531.35870.707072.361654@peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de> from Frank Morawietz at "Mar 6, 2000 11:44:46 am" To: frank@sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:12:50 +1100 (EST) CC: pdftex@tug.org, Ross Moore , "C. V. Radhakrishnan" , "Kristoffer H. Rose" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > I would like to prepare a presentation using the packages pdfslide and > xy-pic via pdflatex (with post processor ppower4, but that's not the > issue). For that I would like to color some arrows. That is a great collection of packages. I hope the presentation goes well for you. > > While I found out how to do this in principle with the color option to > xy (e.g. \xymatrix{ A \ar@*{[red]}[r] & B }), this relies on an > appropriate driver (to implement the necessary specials). > Unfortunately, there is no such driver (pdftex) for the xy package; at > least not in my distribution (teTeX 1.07., texmf 1.0.2). No, there is no driver distributed as yet. Last year I did some work on creating one, just for this eventuality. You are most welcome to try it out and report on its effectiveness. It can be obtained as: http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/XyPIC/xypdf.tgz It does not yet have the full functionality of the PostScript driver, but color works, at least in relatively simple settings. > Is there a quick solution for that? Can I use the pdftex-driver from > some other package and just add more options to xypic? Or is there a > different way of coloring some arrow (btw, coloring the entire diagram > via the color package works, coloring the entry in one cell works too, Yes, that works because you are just colouring the fonts used in the text and within the Xy-pic diagrams. > whereas using it to color an arrow fails). You need Xy-pic itself to put the colour-changes immediately before and after the font-characters that it uses. That is how my preliminary driver works. A *real* PDF driver would not use the Xy-pic fonts at all, but instead draw the lines and curves (including arrowheads) with primitive graphics commands. This is much harder to do in PDF than in PostScript, for many of the s that Xy-pic can construct. > > If all of that is too complicated, are there other packages with the > necessary support to draw trees decorated with arbitrary (colored) > arrows? Naturally I'd prefer you to stick with Xy-pic. ;-) > thanks for your help (and the excellent packages) You're most welcome. Ross Moore > -- frank 6-Mar-2000 12:52:51-GMT,2655;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21885 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:52:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA13877 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:26:58 -0500 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13874 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:26:55 -0500 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00334 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:26:49 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:26:49 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <200003061226.NAA00334@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: (fwd) pdflatex -> segmentation fault Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Just forwarding... Thomas --- >From owner-tetex@informatik.uni-hannover.de Sat Mar 4 16:41:36 2000 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:30:19 +0000 From: Marc van Dongen To: TeTeX Mailing List Subject: pdflatex -> segmentation fault Mime-Version: 1.0 Dear group, I am using the TeTeX 1.0 distribution and when running pdflatex it frequently fails with a segmentation fault. After it seems to have processed the whole input file it starts generating an enourmous number of newlines and finally fails with a segmentation fault and an exit status of 2 I am running pdflatex in combination with make. I have appended below an example of its output. It seems as if the problem has to do with the definition of new labels. Is there anybody who has a suggestion as to how to solve this problem because as it is, I can't run pdflatex because of this. Any suggestions would be greatlyappreciated. Regards, Marc van Dongen -- Marc van Dongen, CS Dept | phone: +353 21 903578 University College Cork, NUIC | Fax: +353 21 903113 College Road, Cork, Ireland | Email: dongen@cs.ucc.ie ******************************************************* make[1]: Entering directory `/newdisk/dongen/LaTeX/PhD' pdflatex thesis [snip] (see the transcript file for additional information) [25473 empty lines deleted] make[1]: Leaving directory `/newdisk/dongen/LaTeX/PhD' make[1]: *** [thesis] Segmentation Fault (core dumped) make: *** [default] Error 2 6-Mar-2000 13:02:22-GMT,2329;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA22086 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:02:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14015 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:35:33 -0500 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[203.129.249.143]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14012 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:35:28 -0500 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA16795; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:06:59 +0530 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:01:33 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Frank Morawietz cc: pdftex@tug.org, Ross Moore , "Kristoffer H. Rose" Subject: Re: interaction pdftex, pdfslide and xy-pic In-Reply-To: <14531.35870.707072.361654@peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Frank Morawietz wrote: FM> I would like to prepare a presentation using the packages pdfslide and FM> xy-pic via pdflatex (with post processor ppower4, but that's not the FM> issue). For that I would like to color some arrows. Oh! what a collection of packages. FM> Is there a quick solution for that? Can I use the pdftex-driver from FM> some other package and just add more options to xypic? Or is there a FM> different way of coloring some arrow (btw, coloring the entire diagram FM> via the color package works, coloring the entry in one cell works too, FM> whereas using it to color an arrow fails). I dont think I have an answer for this, perhaps Ross can help you better. FM> If all of that is too complicated, are there other packages with the FM> necessary support to draw trees decorated with arbitrary (colored) FM> arrows? If all fails, why don't you try MetaPost? (with apologies to Ross) Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 6-Mar-2000 15:37:55-GMT,2262;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25865 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:37:53 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15073 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:58:37 -0500 Received: from peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de (peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.204.217]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15070 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:58:33 -0500 Received: (from frank@localhost) by peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20424; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:02:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14531.51309.738099.944393@peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:02:05 +0100 (MET) To: Ross Moore Subject: Re: interaction pdftex, pdfslide and xy-pic Cc: pdftex@tug.org, "C. V. Radhakrishnan" , "Kristoffer H. Rose" In-Reply-To: <200003061112.WAA00574@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> References: <14531.35870.707072.361654@peon.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de> <200003061112.WAA00574@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under Emacs 19.34.1 Reply-To: frank@sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de From: Frank Morawietz Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Ross, works like a charme. Thanks a lot. It took me a little while to figure out how to use it since the all-option leads to TeX pool size errors. But after I switched to \include{xypdftex} \xyoption{color} \xyoption{matrix} \xyoption{arrow} \xyoption{pdftex} and load only what I need, it does exactly what I want. I hope it makes it into the official distribution soon. -- frank >>>>> "RM" == Ross Moore writes: RM> Last year I did some work on creating one, just for this RM> eventuality. You are most welcome to try it out and report on its RM> effectiveness. RM> It can be obtained as: RM> http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/XyPIC/xypdf.tgz RM> It does not yet have the full functionality of the PostScript RM> driver, but color works, at least in relatively simple settings. 6-Mar-2000 15:51:08-GMT,1674;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26295 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:51:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15190 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:19:50 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA15187 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:19:48 -0500 Received: from remote142-21.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.21] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12RzIL-0000xl-00; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:19:41 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000306161650.41473b16@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 16:16:50 +0100 To: Thomas Esser , pdftex@tug.org, Marc van Dongen From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: (fwd) pdflatex -> segmentation fault In-Reply-To: <200003061226.NAA00334@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >From: Marc van Dongen >I am using the TeTeX 1.0 distribution and >when running pdflatex it frequently fails >with a segmentation fault. Which version of pdfTeX do you use? I remember a 14e-pretest version with this problem (in January 2000). If you use such a version, update to the current released version 14e. Yours sincerely Heiko 6-Mar-2000 17:59:03-GMT,1910;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00616 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:59:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA16132 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:34:22 -0500 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16127 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:34:16 -0500 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.28]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA620D; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:34:10 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000306183422.021df100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 18:34:22 +0100 To: ntg-context@ntg.nl, pdftex@tug.org From: Hans Hagen Subject: recent bug in supp-pdf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Lutz Haseloff encountered a bug (thanks for reporting) in the mp to pdf converter concerning including fonts and moveto's. Only acrobat viewers suffer from this phenomena, which is also slightly random. This showing up is a result of a change in supp-pdf regarding higher precision and circumventing unwanted clipping in forms. I repaired the bug, so the new version will migrate to mirrors within a few days (the impatient can pick up the latest context). Sorry for the troubles. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Mar-2000 18:26:07-GMT,2039;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01492 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:26:06 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16312 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:03:05 -0500 Received: from kali.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16309 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:03:01 -0500 Received: (from ecashin@localhost) by kali.coe.uga.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03398; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:02:55 -0500 To: Hans Hagen Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: recent bug in supp-pdf References: <3.0.6.32.20000306183422.021df100@pop.wxs.nl> From: ecashin@coe.uga.edu (Ed L. Cashin) Date: 06 Mar 2000 13:02:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: Hans Hagen's message of "Mon, 06 Mar 2000 18:34:22 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen writes: > Lutz Haseloff encountered a bug (thanks for reporting) in the mp to > pdf converter concerning including fonts and moveto's. Only acrobat > viewers suffer from this phenomena, which is also slightly > random. This showing up is a result of a change in supp-pdf > regarding higher precision and circumventing unwanted clipping in > forms. I repaired the bug, so the new version will migrate to > mirrors within a few days (the impatient can pick up the latest > context). Sorry for the troubles. Hi. What are the specific things we should look for to determine whether our applications are affected by the bug? If things are generally looking fine, are we OK, or should we expect possible surprises? -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 6-Mar-2000 20:18:41-GMT,3077;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05232 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:18:22 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16986 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:47:58 -0500 Received: from kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16983 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:47:55 -0500 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA01021; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:47:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:47:50 +0100 Message-Id: <200003061947.UAA01021@kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Prof Brian D Ripley Cc: Reinhard Kotucha , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problems with T1 (ec) fonts In-Reply-To: References: <200003051920.UAA01562@kammer.uni-hannover.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Prof" == Prof Brian D Ripley writes: > On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: >> Hi, if I run pdflatex on the file below I get wrong character >> spacings. The space after each character is (approximately?) as >> large as the character itself. It looks as if it would use 600 >> dpi fonts and 300 dpi metrics, but on the other hand, vertical >> spacing is ok. >> >> The formula is ok because type 1 fonts are used here, I >> suppose. >> >> The \fboxes are looking very strange. >> >> The output is ok if I use OT1 fonts or set \pdfoutput=0 or use >> latex instead of pdflatex. >> >> Can anyone reproduce that? > It's fine here with the release version of 0.14e, in so far as > using bitmap fonts with pdftex is ever desirable. I don't know > what you want to do, but for my purposes, using ae to map T1 > fonts to those with type 1 ps versions is much preferable. Just > insert \usepackage{ae}. I still use ae fonts but the reason for my mail is that if \pdfoutput=0, pdftex should behave like tex. But it doesn't, at least not for me. Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Mar-2000 19:00:05-GMT,2002;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02653 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:00:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16408 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:20:21 -0500 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16405 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:20:19 -0500 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.141.216]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FR0IWY00.Q5S; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:19:46 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000306191907.00c16800@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 19:19:07 +0100 To: ecashin@coe.uga.edu (Ed L. Cashin) From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: recent bug in supp-pdf Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000306183422.021df100@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 01:02 PM 3/6/2000 -0500, Ed L. Cashin wrote: >Hi. What are the specific things we should look for to determine >whether our applications are affected by the bug? If things are >generally looking fine, are we OK, or should we expect possible >surprises? You can only expect problems when you use fonts in mp files (which I never do so this is why it went unnoticed -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Mar-2000 17:02:09-GMT,2867;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28584 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:02:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15523 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:20:00 -0500 Received: from ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (IDENT:root@ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.190]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15517 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:19:00 -0500 Received: from infor.uva.es (diogenes.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.56]) by ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15575; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:18:39 +0100 Message-ID: <38C3DBB0.9C9EA4C4@infor.uva.es> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 17:24:17 +0100 From: Hernando Silva Varela Organization: Universidad de Valladolid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Norman Carver , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Several troubles with EPSTOPDF 2.2 (and ghostview 6.0) References: <200002271740.LAA05448@cs.siu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA15521 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk When trying to convert eps files to pdf I have the following troubles: a) The converter does not work at all for some files and it shows messages like Error: /undefined in ÅÐÓÆ Operand stack: Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:946/983(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:66/200(L)-- Current allocation mode is local Current file position is 5 6.0Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 gsdll_init returns 1 Converting hom-hom.eps to hom-hom.pdf ..... Done b) The converter works for some files, althougth resolution in characters is lost when "filename.pdf" (which includes the file "figure.pdf") is seen trough Acrobat Reader; when the file "figure.pdf" is seen trough Acrobat Reader or Ghostview the resolution is okay. By the way, I have settled the parameter image_resolution, as well as pk_resolution, to 600 in the file "pdftex.cfg" located in the directory \texmf\pdftex\config\ of my miktex 1.20e installation. Any advice regarding this troubles will be welcome. Hernando. __________________________________ Hernando Silva Varela Departamento de Informática (ETIT) Universidad de Valladolid C\ Camino del Cementerio S/N 47011 Valladolid, España (Spain) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 7-Mar-2000 1:39:34-GMT,2289;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14813 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:39:33 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18938 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:19:12 -0500 Received: from fishhead.tag.csiro.au (IDENT:root@tags115.tag.csiro.au [146.118.16.115]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18935 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:19:06 -0500 Received: from fishhead.tag.csiro.au (jhowarth@fishhead.tag.csiro.au [146.118.16.115]) by fishhead.tag.csiro.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA28176 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:21:10 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14532.22917.964514.911980@fishhead.tag.csiro.au> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:21:09 +1000 (EST) From: Jordan Howarth To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: problem with pdflatex finding graphics X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi ya, I have converted several .ps output files from gnuplot to .pdf using epstopdf and have incorporated them into my latex document. When I use pdflatex, I get this error Error: pdflatex (file 11_1000prp.pdf): cannot open image file Hope the boffins are watching, Jord P.S. Below are details that may help ============================================================================== My code at the point of insertion looks like this \begin{figure}[tbp] \begin{center} (a)\includegraphics[width=10cm,angle=270]{11_1000prp} \caption{Replicate frequency of ...} \label{fig:RAP11} \end{center} \end{figure} where I have followed the recommendations of others to drop the file type of the graphics file and let latex/pdflatex choose between .ps and .pdf. My document also loads these packages --\-- \documentclass[12pt,a4paper,pdftex]{report} \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{natbib} \usepackage{rotating} \usepackage{threeparttable} --\-- I have installed the latest teTeX distribution running this version of pdftex: pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d kpathsea version 3.3.1 7-Mar-2000 11:18:43-GMT,2136;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA26865 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 04:18:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA21173 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:34:57 -0500 Received: from smtp.suedka.de ([212.20.130.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21170 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:34:54 -0500 Received: from report_serv.suedka.de (unverified) by smtp.suedka.de (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Di, 07 Mrz 2000 11:34:44 +0100 Received: from suedka.de ([12.1.18.95]) by report_serv.suedka.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with ESMTP id 258; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:38:21 +0100 Message-Id: <38C4DCE5.EF743EFC@suedka.de> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:41:41 +0100 From: "Achim Mueller" Organization: SuedKA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: miktex@dsts.dk, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Color Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, i'm using MikTeX 1.20e with the the pdfTeX version which was originally included. I'm writing a document where i include some Color Charts. These Charts are produced with picTeX. Compiling my document with LaTeX and viewing it with Yap works fine. All colors are in the right place. Compiling my document with pdfLaTeX also works fine. But looking at the generated pdf-document it's only black and white and all color is gone. Any hints???? Achim ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Achim Mueller Tel: +49-(0)-69-29975-1671 SuedKA GmbH Fax: +49-(0)-69-29975-1649 FM-Techniken email: Achim.Mueller@suedka.de Boersenstrasse 7-11 Internet: www.suedka.de 60313 Frankfurt/Main Germany 7-Mar-2000 12:55:56-GMT,2238;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28655 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:55:55 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA21617 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:19:06 -0500 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21614 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:19:04 -0500 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08394; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:17:58 GMT Message-ID: <38C4F376.83AA9A85@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 12:17:58 +0000 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc van Dongen CC: Thomas Esser , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: (fwd) pdflatex -> segmentation fault References: <200003061226.NAA00334@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Dear group, > > I am using the TeTeX 1.0 distribution and > when running pdflatex it frequently fails > with a segmentation fault. Hi Marc, Is this pdftex-specific? I mean, do all other binaries in that distribution work well? If so, then lemme guess: The pdftex binary differs notably from the rest of teTeX binaries in the fact that it is linked against the C++ runtime library. I don't know why (does web2c generate C++ code?), but that's not important here. So did you tinker with the C++ library? You didn't tell us which platform you are using. On Linux this lib is called libstdc. It comes with gcc. Therefore, updating gcc may break pdftex. Maybe, someone (you?) made a symlink to fool the dynamic loader about version names of libraries? As I said, just a guess.... Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 7-Mar-2000 13:16:50-GMT,2138;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29086 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:16:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA21725 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:40:18 -0500 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21722 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:40:16 -0500 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08437; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:39:25 GMT Message-ID: <38C4F87C.765D367E@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 12:39:24 +0000 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc van Dongen CC: pdftex Subject: Re: (fwd) pdflatex -> segmentation fault References: <200003061226.NAA00334@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> <38C4F376.83AA9A85@cs.ucc.ie> <20000307122840.C5560@cs.ucc.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Marc van Dongen wrote: > I have recently upgraded gcc. Ahaaaa!! > so I > cannot see a reason today (when I got the same problem again) why > gcc has anything to do with it. It has, if you install binaries that are dynamically linked. BTW, for exactly these kind of reasons (dependencies on certain versions of installed shared libs) I always compile stuff from scratch. > There is a softlink for cc to gcc but the gcc in /usr/local/bin is > really hard. This has nothing to do with what I mean. > Thanks for the comments. Maybe I should try to reinstall > TeTeX from source (sigh). Yes, the problem will go away, if the error is due to a mismatched libstc. Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 7-Mar-2000 14:22:56-GMT,1425;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00460 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:22:55 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22201 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:37:03 -0500 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22198 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:36:59 -0500 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09817; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:36:53 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:36:53 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <200003071336.OAA09817@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org, reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de Subject: Re: Problems with T1 (ec) fonts Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > if I run pdflatex on the file below I get wrong character > spacings. The space after each character is (approximately?) as large ... > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-pretest-20000131 (Web2C 7.3.1) I just have tried your file with This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (Web2C 7.3.1) (as included in teTeX-src-beta-20000305) and the spacing looks ok. So, it seems like the problem is already fixed. Thomas 7-Mar-2000 16:03:20-GMT,2826;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03320 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:03:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23030 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:32:57 -0500 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23027 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:32:45 -0500 Received: from toucan.stats (toucan.stats [163.1.20.20]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA03617; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:31:53 GMT Message-Id: <200003071531.PAA03617@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:31:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Prof Brian Ripley Reply-To: Prof Brian Ripley Subject: Re: (fwd) pdflatex -> segmentation fault To: dongen@cs.ucc.ie, f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 9/PvMY69L9/IYty3i5QpSA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 12:39:24 +0000 > From: Frank Boehme > X-Accept-Language: en > To: Marc van Dongen > CC: pdftex > Subject: Re: (fwd) pdflatex -> segmentation fault > > Marc van Dongen wrote: > > > I have recently upgraded gcc. > > Ahaaaa!! > > > so I > > cannot see a reason today (when I got the same problem again) why > > gcc has anything to do with it. > > It has, if you install binaries that are dynamically linked. BTW, for > exactly these kind of reasons (dependencies on certain versions of > installed shared libs) I always compile stuff from scratch. > > > There is a softlink for cc to gcc but the gcc in /usr/local/bin is > > really hard. > > This has nothing to do with what I mean. > > > Thanks for the comments. Maybe I should try to reinstall > > TeTeX from source (sigh). > > Yes, the problem will go away, if the error is due to a mismatched > libstc. There is no reason to be linking pdftex against libstc anyway: just fix CXXLD to be CC. On my Solaris box toucan% ldd pdftex libm.so.1 => /opt/SUNWspro/lib/libm.so.1 libc.so.1 => /usr/lib/libc.so.1 libdl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libdl.so.1 Alpthough you need to compile with a C++ compiler, none of the C++ library routines are used. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 7-Mar-2000 16:26:30-GMT,2368;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03969 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:26:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23094 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:43:22 -0500 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23091 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:43:19 -0500 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10200; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:42:26 GMT Message-ID: <38C52362.3020373C@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:42:26 +0000 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Prof Brian Ripley CC: dongen@cs.ucc.ie, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: (fwd) pdflatex -> segmentation fault References: <200003071531.PAA03617@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > > There is no reason to be linking pdftex against libstc anyway: > just fix CXXLD to be CC. On my Solaris box > > toucan% ldd pdftex > libm.so.1 => /opt/SUNWspro/lib/libm.so.1 > libc.so.1 => /usr/lib/libc.so.1 > libdl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libdl.so.1 On my Linux box: frank@wizard:~ > ldd `which pdftex` libpng.so.2 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x4001f000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4003d000) libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 (0x4004d000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40095000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400b3000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) As you see, I use the system image libs, but this is irrelevant as none of these requires itself libstdc. > Alpthough you need to compile with a C++ compiler, none of the C++ library > routines are used. Really? I didn't know that. Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 7-Mar-2000 16:23:28-GMT,2953;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03871 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:23:06 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23132 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:51:14 -0500 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23129 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:51:11 -0500 Received: from toucan.stats (toucan.stats [163.1.20.20]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA07489; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:50:33 GMT Message-Id: <200003071550.PAA07489@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:50:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Prof Brian Ripley Reply-To: Prof Brian Ripley Subject: Re: (fwd) pdflatex -> segmentation fault To: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie Cc: dongen@cs.ucc.ie, pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: MXZ5NLeOxk35/frmKv/GEw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:42:26 +0000 > From: Frank Boehme > X-Accept-Language: en > To: Prof Brian Ripley > CC: dongen@cs.ucc.ie, pdftex@tug.org > Subject: Re: (fwd) pdflatex -> segmentation fault > > Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > > > > There is no reason to be linking pdftex against libstc anyway: > > just fix CXXLD to be CC. On my Solaris box > > > > toucan% ldd pdftex > > libm.so.1 => /opt/SUNWspro/lib/libm.so.1 > > libc.so.1 => /usr/lib/libc.so.1 > > libdl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libdl.so.1 > > On my Linux box: > > frank@wizard:~ > ldd `which pdftex` > libpng.so.2 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x4001f000) > libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4003d000) > libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 > (0x4004d000) > libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40095000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400b3000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) > > As you see, I use the system image libs, but this is irrelevant as none > of these requires itself libstdc. But did you change CXXLD to be CC when you compiled, as I did? If you link with g++, you will get libstdc++ included whether you use it or not. > > Although you need to compile with a C++ compiler, none of the C++ library > > routines are used. > > Really? I didn't know that. Yes, really, or how could my pdftex work? -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 7-Mar-2000 16:58:50-GMT,1791;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05102 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:58:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23460 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:25:57 -0500 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23456 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:25:53 -0500 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10463; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:24:42 GMT Message-ID: <38C52D4A.E18D7D68@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 16:24:42 +0000 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Prof Brian Ripley CC: pdftex Subject: Re: (fwd) pdflatex -> segmentation fault References: <200003071550.PAA07489@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > But did you change CXXLD to be CC when you compiled, as I did? If > you link with g++, you will get libstdc++ included whether you use it > or not. No, I didn't. But I understood you in the first place. I mean, I understood why your pdftex does not load libstdc and mine does. I was just wondering why some steps during 'make' are done with a C++ compiler. Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 7-Mar-2000 22:58:14-GMT,3216;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16322 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:58:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25752 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:18:01 -0500 Received: from localgw.inet.cz (brno-l.router.inet.cz [62.229.34.226]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25749 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:17:58 -0500 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (dialup1.inet.cz [62.229.34.209]) by localgw.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA01480 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:22:43 +0100 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA01681; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:43:31 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: SnowWhite.inet.cz: pavel set sender to Pavel.Janik@inet.cz using -f To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: epstopdf and PaintType == 2 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.3.45 on Intel, Linux 2.2.10 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-Phone: +420 5 41242414 ext. 31 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Reply-To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 07 Mar 2000 21:43:28 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 69 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I need to demonstrate outlines of Type1 font in my diploma work so I decided to create one with my script: --- cut here --- #!/bin/bash # # Generate outlines of Type1 font to EPS and PDF file. # # (c) 2000, Pavel Janík ml. # # Released under GNU GPL version 2 FONT=$1 SIZE=$2 TEXT=$3 MOVETO=$4 echo -n "Generating outlines for font ${FONT} " pfb2pfa Fonts/${FONT}.pfb FONTNAME=`grep FontName Fonts/${FONT}.pfa|awk '{print $2}'` cat Fonts/${FONT}.pfa |sed 's#PaintType 0 def#PaintType 2 def#' >>${FONT}.ps echo " ${FONTNAME} findfont ${SIZE} scalefont setfont ${MOVETO} moveto (${TEXT}) show" >>${FONT}.ps ps2epsi ${FONT}.ps ${FONT}.eps rm -f ${FONT}.ps Fonts/${FONT}.pfa epstopdf ${FONT}.eps --- cut here --- The script is called via: GenerateOutlinesForFont Utopia-Regular 80 "Kontury" "0 20" Utopia-Regular.pfb is the Type1 font. The script should convert it to PFA, substitute /PaintType 0 def to /PaintType 2 def So the resulting EPS contains outlines, but PDF does not - so I think that it does not respect PaintType at all and outlines can be specified via Tr only (Han The Thanh: what about my patch I sent do you about half a year about? Can outlines be handled directly by pdfTeX now). I have a way of creating outlines via PDF literals or even from my editor :-) but I think that this is the correct way. Can I use epstopdf for this? I do not think so. There is also way via ps2pdf Utopia-Regular.eps Utopia-Regular.pdf but I do not want bitmaps in my work :-( -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz 7-Mar-2000 23:51:54-GMT,3054;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17807 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:51:53 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26051 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:16:05 -0500 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26048 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:16:03 -0500 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26774; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:16:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:16:00 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: "Pavel Janik ml." cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: epstopdf and PaintType == 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Little known issue: some fonts (like Courier) are actually stroked lines. Other fonts (like Utopia) are filled curves. Your best bet to get outlines is to use the PS operator charpath and the stroke operator. The gs 6.0 will do what you want (outlines in the PDF file). Tom On 7 Mar 2000, Pavel Janik ml. wrote: > Hi, > > I need to demonstrate outlines of Type1 font in my diploma work so I decided > to create one with my script: > > --- cut here --- > #!/bin/bash > > # > # Generate outlines of Type1 font to EPS and PDF file. > # > # (c) 2000, Pavel Janík ml. > # > # Released under GNU GPL version 2 > > FONT=$1 > SIZE=$2 > TEXT=$3 > MOVETO=$4 > > echo -n "Generating outlines for font ${FONT} " > > pfb2pfa Fonts/${FONT}.pfb > > FONTNAME=`grep FontName Fonts/${FONT}.pfa|awk '{print $2}'` > > cat Fonts/${FONT}.pfa |sed 's#PaintType 0 def#PaintType 2 def#' >>${FONT}.ps > > echo " > ${FONTNAME} findfont > ${SIZE} scalefont setfont > ${MOVETO} moveto > (${TEXT}) show" >>${FONT}.ps > > ps2epsi ${FONT}.ps ${FONT}.eps > > rm -f ${FONT}.ps Fonts/${FONT}.pfa > > epstopdf ${FONT}.eps > --- cut here --- > > The script is called via: > > GenerateOutlinesForFont Utopia-Regular 80 "Kontury" "0 20" > > Utopia-Regular.pfb is the Type1 font. The script should convert it to PFA, > substitute > > /PaintType 0 def > > to > > /PaintType 2 def > > So the resulting EPS contains outlines, but PDF does not - so I think that it > does not respect PaintType at all and outlines can be specified via Tr only > (Han The Thanh: what about my patch I sent do you about half a year about? Can > outlines be handled directly by pdfTeX now). I have a way of creating outlines > via PDF literals or even from my editor :-) but I think that this is the > correct way. Can I use epstopdf for this? I do not think so. > > There is also way via > > ps2pdf Utopia-Regular.eps Utopia-Regular.pdf > > but I do not want bitmaps in my work :-( > 8-Mar-2000 12:59:57-GMT,2435;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA05030 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 05:59:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA29460 for pdftex-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:03:43 -0500 Received: from vb.landmarknet.net (vb.landmarknet.net [207.242.12.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29457 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:03:30 -0500 Received: from THOMPSON-COZYKU ([38.32.11.32]) by vb.landmarknet.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 89; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:04:00 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000308065819.00a8ed40@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 07:04:28 -0500 To: Tom Kacvinsky , "Pavel Janik ml." From: "Y&Y, Inc." Subject: Re: epstopdf and PaintType == 2 Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 06:16 PM 3/7/2000 -0500, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: >Little known issue: some fonts (like Courier) are actually >stroked lines. Other fonts (like Utopia) are filled curves. Not any more, the MetaFont model of stroking a pen along a curve (which only Courier used) was dropped when ATM came along. So Courier changed many years ago to a "normal" filled Type 1 font. However, some not so well made fonts compose characters by superimposing overlapping outlines (e.g. Ccedilla may be constructed by drawing the curves for "C" and the curve for "cedilla" with some overlap and then "filling"). So when you change PaintType you do not get the nice outer curve only, but some internal curves as well. (Note that this is different from using the Type 1 "seac" operator, where base and accent are drawn and filled separately). The overlap is shown in white in ATM (at least at normal sizes), because ATM uses a different "fill" operator than do PS interpreters. which has persuaded many foundries to stop doing things this way and properly draw only the outer curve. Regards. -- Y&Y Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com/version22.htm (LT) 8-Mar-2000 15:16:55-GMT,13254;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08656 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:16:54 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA29953 for pdftex-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:32:28 -0500 Received: from ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (IDENT:root@ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.190]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29950 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:32:20 -0500 Received: from infor.uva.es (diogenes.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.56]) by ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24697 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:32:36 +0100 Message-ID: <38C657CD.B5243BE0@infor.uva.es> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:38:21 +0100 From: Hernando Silva Varela Organization: Universidad de Valladolid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Troubles with fonts in epstopdf.exe v2.2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------76815FC4912347F463E5D139" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Este es un mensaje multipartes en formato MIME. --------------76815FC4912347F463E5D139 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When using epstopdf.exe v2.2 (with ghostscript 6.0) to convert the file "ent.eps" the program fails and shows the message ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Error: /invalidfont in findfont Operand stack: Courier Font Courier 269503 Courier --nostringval-- Courie= r = NimbusMonL-Regu Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- = --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- = --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop = =2Erunexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 = %stopped_push --nostringval-- 1 4 %oparray_pop 2 4 = %oparray_pop --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- = --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 5 5 = %oparray_pop --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 1 = -1 = 1 --nostringval-- %for_neg_int_continue --nostringval-- = --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:946/983(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:67/200(L)-- = --dict:38/40(L)-- --dict:16/24(G)-- --dict:946/983(ro)(G)-- Current allocation mode is local Last OS error: No such file or directory Current file position is 2361 6.0Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 gsdll_init returns 1 Converting ent.eps to ent.pdf ..... Done ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The trouble seems to be caused by the lines = %%DocumentFonts: Helvetica and /Helvetica findfont 200 scalefont setfont of the "ent.eps" file (mainly the last one), since when I delete these lines from the eps file the converter (v.g., epstopdf.exe) works, although text legends in the figure are missing (v.g., there is no text at all). I am including as an attachment the original "ent.eps" file so that somebody there be able to make a test; this file was obtained by plotting data with gnuplot. Thanks for your help. Hernando -- = __________________________________ Hernando Silva Varela Departamento de Inform=E1tica (ETIT) Universidad de Valladolid C\ Camino del Cementerio S/N 47011 Valladolid, Espa=F1a (Spain) --------------76815FC4912347F463E5D139 Content-Type: application/postscript; name="ent.eps" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ent.eps" %!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0 %%Creator: gnuplot %%DocumentFonts: Helvetica %%BoundingBox: 50 50 410 302 %%EndComments /gnudict 40 dict def gnudict begin /Color false def /Solid true def /gnulinewidth 5.000 def /vshift -66 def /dl {10 mul} def /hpt 31.5 def /vpt 31.5 def /M {moveto} bind def /L {lineto} bind def /R {rmoveto} bind def /V {rlineto} bind def /vpt2 vpt 2 mul def /hpt2 hpt 2 mul def /Lshow { currentpoint stroke M 0 vshift R show } def /Rshow { currentpoint stroke M dup stringwidth pop neg vshift R show } def /Cshow { currentpoint stroke M dup stringwidth pop -2 div vshift R show } def /DL { Color {setrgbcolor Solid {pop []} if 0 setdash } {pop pop pop Solid {pop []} if 0 setdash} ifelse } def /BL { stroke gnulinewidth 2 mul setlinewidth } def /AL { stroke gnulinewidth 2 div setlinewidth } def /PL { stroke gnulinewidth setlinewidth } def /LTb { BL [] 0 0 0 DL } def /LTa { AL [1 dl 2 dl] 0 setdash 0 0 0 setrgbcolor } def /LT0 { PL [] 0 1 0 DL } def /LT1 { PL [4 dl 2 dl] 0 0 1 DL } def /LT2 { PL [2 dl 3 dl] 1 0 0 DL } def /LT3 { PL [1 dl 1.5 dl] 1 0 1 DL } def /LT4 { PL [5 dl 2 dl 1 dl 2 dl] 0 1 1 DL } def /LT5 { PL [4 dl 3 dl 1 dl 3 dl] 1 1 0 DL } def /LT6 { PL [2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 4 dl] 0 0 0 DL } def /LT7 { PL [2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 4 dl] 1 0.3 0 DL } def /LT8 { PL [2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 2 dl 4 dl] 0.5 0.5 0.5 DL } def /P { stroke [] 0 setdash currentlinewidth 2 div sub M 0 currentlinewidth V stroke } def /D { stroke [] 0 setdash 2 copy vpt add M hpt neg vpt neg V hpt vpt neg V hpt vpt V hpt neg vpt V closepath stroke P } def /A { stroke [] 0 setdash vpt sub M 0 vpt2 V currentpoint stroke M hpt neg vpt neg R hpt2 0 V stroke } def /B { stroke [] 0 setdash 2 copy exch hpt sub exch vpt add M 0 vpt2 neg V hpt2 0 V 0 vpt2 V hpt2 neg 0 V closepath stroke P } def /C { stroke [] 0 setdash exch hpt sub exch vpt add M hpt2 vpt2 neg V currentpoint stroke M hpt2 neg 0 R hpt2 vpt2 V stroke } def /T { stroke [] 0 setdash 2 copy vpt 1.12 mul add M hpt neg vpt -1.62 mul V hpt 2 mul 0 V hpt neg vpt 1.62 mul V closepath stroke P } def /S { 2 copy A C} def end %%EndProlog gnudict begin gsave 50 50 translate 0.050 0.050 scale 0 setgray /Helvetica findfont 200 scalefont setfont newpath LTa 1200 501 M 5697 0 V -5697 0 R 0 4438 V LTb LTa 1200 501 M 5697 0 V LTb 1200 501 M 63 0 V 5634 0 R -63 0 V -5754 0 R (0) Rshow LTa 1200 1135 M 5697 0 V LTb 1200 1135 M 63 0 V 5634 0 R -63 0 V -5754 0 R (10) Rshow LTa 1200 1769 M 5697 0 V LTb 1200 1769 M 63 0 V 5634 0 R -63 0 V -5754 0 R (20) Rshow LTa 1200 2403 M 5697 0 V LTb 1200 2403 M 63 0 V 5634 0 R -63 0 V -5754 0 R (30) Rshow LTa 1200 3037 M 5697 0 V 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(IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11750 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:44:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30849 for pdftex-list; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:02:25 -0500 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA30846 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:02:22 -0500 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16433; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:00:19 GMT Message-ID: <38C67913.EAC04431@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:00:19 +0000 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hernando Silva Varela CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Troubles with fonts in epstopdf.exe v2.2 References: <38C657CD.B5243BE0@infor.uva.es> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------BE17E19D0753148726276714" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BE17E19D0753148726276714 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hernando Silva Varela wrote: > > When using epstopdf.exe v2.2 (with ghostscript 6.0) to convert the > file "ent.eps" the program fails No trouble with your eps file here on my Linux box using gs 6.0. I'have attached the resulting pdf file (generated by epstopdf ent.eps). 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pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:43:06 +0100 Received: from localhost by gwdu20.gwdg.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/11Feb98-0154PM) id AA31625; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:43:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:43:00 +0100 (MET) From: Daniel Weiss To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Embedding movies into PDF files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi readers, this may be a FAQ, but since the pdftex FAQ I have seen is rather meagre, and says nothing about this: Can I use pdflatex to embed movies into PDF files? What movie format do I need to use? Is there a more complete FAQ? Greetings and thanks, Daniel Daniel Weiss tel: +49 551 399431 Institute for X-Ray Physics (IRP) fax: +49 551 399430 University Georgia Augusta at Goettingen email: Daniel.Weiss@ Geiststrasse 11, 37073 Goettingen, Germany phys.uni-goettingen.de PGP public key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x3D3E57B9&fingerprint=on (fingerprint: F0 4C B3 27 0E 36 08 C0 54 A7 73 DD ED 52 B0 9B) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOMatSPSzBDo9Ple5AQEzHwQAoJPTd6SgnY9+pIXOH3vzuZJ0YrVP2jPk 3BLXMIh8NhiCGFdL3mtoYk4T/gdmzcvEd6fHJeoYIOkqmme30S0AsfNukHSlN9fH jMtGHWsNP/69Puf7Na18EYKRplzlGN0t/boK21Z+TmXn0xsvrwmhPo5Ref4CdxWc 9g/C56PIuBo= =oWe9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 9-Mar-2000 9:47:50-GMT,1795;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09332 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:45:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA03355 for pdftex-list; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 04:01:27 -0500 Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (vmailer@sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA03352 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 04:01:25 -0500 From: piet@cs.uu.nl Received: from XLOO (xloo.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.152]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2733451A; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:01:23 +0100 (MET) To: Hernando Silva Varela Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Troubles with fonts in epstopdf.exe v2.2 References: <38C657CD.B5243BE0@infor.uva.es> Date: 09 Mar 2000 10:03:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: Hernando Silva Varela's message of "Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:38:21 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Hernando Silva Varela (HSV) writes: HSV> When using epstopdf.exe v2.2 (with ghostscript 6.0) to convert the HSV> file "ent.eps" the program fails and shows the message HSV> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HSV> Error: /invalidfont in findfont HSV> Operand stack: HSV> Courier Font Courier 269503 Courier --nostringval-- Courier This may mean that your GS_LIB environment variable does not contain the fonts directory -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: Piet.van.Oostrum@gironet.nl 9-Mar-2000 21:56:04-GMT,1569;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28507 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 14:56:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06380 for pdftex-list; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 16:26:16 -0500 Received: from mail.ac-lyon.fr (mail.ac-lyon.fr [195.83.16.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06377 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 16:26:13 -0500 Received: from jmferrar ([195.83.16.159]) by mail.ac-lyon.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA4302 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:27:08 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01bf8a0e$269a87e0$9f1053c3@jmferrar> From: "Jean-Michel Ferrard" To: Subject: Protect one's document Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:26:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk It's certainly a basic question, but I take the risk: is it possible to give some protection level to the document I create with pdflatex, as with Adobe Distiller when I convert ps files to pdf ones? More precisely, I should like to prevent my students to modify pdf files I intend to give them. Thanks for the help, and apologies for my poor english style. Jean-Michel 10-Mar-2000 1:44:46-GMT,1752;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04692 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:44:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07682 for pdftex-list; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 20:18:40 -0500 Received: from ALPHA8.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU (alpha8.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA07679 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 20:18:37 -0500 Received: from BusEco.monash.edu.au ([130.194.186.184]) by vaxh.cc.monash.edu.au (PMDF V5.2-31 #29714) with ESMTP id <01JMV8Q92E848ZEO34@vaxh.cc.monash.edu.au> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:16:42 +1100 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:16:39 +1100 From: Rob J Hyndman Subject: Problems in printing \bar X-Sender: "Rob J Hyndman" <@smtp.monash.edu.au> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <38C83EE7.C2DFFB62@BusEco.monash.edu.au> Organization: Monash University MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD monwin/020 (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk When I use \bar with pdflatex 14e, the bar is not printed. It appears on the screen, but not on the printed document. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a known workaround? I know I could use \overline instead. That works OK but looks a little clumsy. Rob Hyndman __________________________________________________ Dr Rob Hyndman Director of Consulting Department of Econometrics & Business Statistics Monash University, VIC 3800, Australia http://www-personal.buseco.monash.edu.au/~hyndman/ 10-Mar-2000 8:12:33-GMT,2739;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13978 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:12:32 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA08780 for pdftex-list; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:52:37 -0500 Received: from ipc4.uib.es (ipc4.uib.es [130.206.33.24]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA08777 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:52:15 -0500 Received: from ipc4.uib.es (pcignasi.uib.es [130.206.134.178]) by ipc4.uib.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11142 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:50:03 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38C8A851.6A4E947@ipc4.uib.es> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:46:25 +0100 From: Ignasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?Furi=F3?= Caldentey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: bug in pdflatex or pdfscreen? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've been trying to process a latex work with pdflatex+ pdfscreen(sidebar) and I got the message error ---- ! LaTeX Error: Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.105 \item l 'esquema TCM \'{e}s $\mu$-isom\`{e}tric, ? ----- just cliking return the work is finished and a nice pdf file is obtained. Every time I pdflatex this file the same behaviour is reproduced. After several trials I deduced that the problem is an enumerate environment. It seems that it doesn't fit in the original position (between two screens) and pdflatex or pdfscreen complains. In fact by supressing any previous paragraph everything goes fine and avoiding the sidebar option in pdfscreen everything goes also fine. I think it can be very difficult to reproduce the problem so I attach a reduced version of the original file join to the auxiliars and result files. You will find a \newpage command after a \section, it is there replacing the original text. Now a second question: what's the meaning of this kind of messages? Package hyperref Warning: Token not allowed in a PDFDocEncoded string, (hyperref) removing `\wd' on input line 15. Thank you for your help Ignasi -- ------------------------------------------------------- Ignasi Furió Caldentey ignasi@ipc4.uib.es Dpt. Matemàtiques i informàtica http://dmi.uib.es Universitat de les Illes Balears http://www.uib.es Fax: +34 971 173003 Tel.: +34 971 173196 ------------------------------------------------------- 10-Mar-2000 9:54:22-GMT,1954;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16120 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:54:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA09006 for pdftex-list; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:59:18 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09003 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:59:15 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12TLGJ-000219-00; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:59:11 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12TLGI-0000b3-00; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:59:10 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14536.47340.734132.705730@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:57:16 +0000 (GMT) To: Jean-Michel.Ferrard@ac-lyon.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Protect one's document In-Reply-To: <001d01bf8a0e$269a87e0$9f1053c3@jmferrar> References: <001d01bf8a0e$269a87e0$9f1053c3@jmferrar> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jean-Michel Ferrard writes: > It's certainly a basic question, but I take the risk: > is it possible to give some protection level to the document I create with > pdflatex, as with Adobe Distiller when I convert ps files to pdf ones? More > precisely, I should like to prevent my students to modify pdf files I intend > to give them. My understanding is that this not possible using "pdfmark", or pdftex primitives. If anyone has done it, tell us about it. You can, of course, use the Acrobat security features if you load the file into full Acrobat Exchange. Sebastian 10-Mar-2000 13:56:10-GMT,1994;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21056 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:56:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA10697 for pdftex-list; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:12:33 -0500 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.102]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10693 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:12:23 -0500 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA18047; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:43:05 +0530 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:37:44 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Ignasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?Furi=F3?= Caldentey cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: bug in pdflatex or pdfscreen? In-Reply-To: <38C8A851.6A4E947@ipc4.uib.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Ignasi Furi Caldentey wrote: IFC> I've been trying to process a latex work with pdflatex+ IFC> pdfscreen(sidebar) and I got the message error IFC> ---- IFC> ! LaTeX Error: Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item. IFC> IFC> See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. IFC> Type H for immediate help. IFC> ... IFC> IFC> l.105 \item l IFC> 'esquema TCM \'{e}s $\mu$-isom\`{e}tric, IFC> ? IFC> ----- IFC> just cliking return the work is finished and a nice pdf file is IFC> obtained. IFC> I have nothing to offer as an explanation. I too have similar experiences. Quite often this happens, when a list item spans over two pages. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 10-Mar-2000 14:02:37-GMT,2559;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21208 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:02:36 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA10892 for pdftex-list; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:39:26 -0500 Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10889 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:39:24 -0500 Received: from dpstory (story.mathsci-tp.uakron.edu [130.101.96.33]) by uakron.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA09518 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:39:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003101339.IAA09518@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:40:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Protect one's document In-reply-to: <14536.47340.734132.705730@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <001d01bf8a0e$269a87e0$9f1053c3@jmferrar> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 10 Mar 00, at 8:57, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Jean-Michel Ferrard writes: > > It's certainly a basic question, but I take the risk: > > is it possible to give some protection level to the document I > create with > pdflatex, as with Adobe Distiller when I convert ps > files to pdf ones? More > precisely, I should like to prevent my > students to modify pdf files I intend > to give them. > > My understanding is that this not possible using "pdfmark", or pdftex > primitives. If anyone has done it, tell us about it. You can, of > course, use the Acrobat security features if you load the file into > full Acrobat Exchange. > > Sebastian > That is my understanding as well, you cannot set security using the pdfmark. However, Distiller 4.0+ now can set security for you as you, this makes it much easier to produce pdf on a large scale with security. As for pdflatex, you must use Acrobat (Exchange) to set security. dps Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Site Overview:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Highlights: e-Calculus; Algebra Review in Ten Lessons; Mathematical Games; Pdfmarks:Links and Forms; Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW The Web and Exerquiz Packages for LaTeX and much, much more. 10-Mar-2000 15:09:32-GMT,3705;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22884 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:09:31 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11259 for pdftex-list; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:26:28 -0500 Received: from fobos.ulpgc.es (fobos.ulpgc.es [193.145.132.5]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11256 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:26:24 -0500 Received: from neumann.teleco.ulpgc.es (neumann.teleco.ulpgc.es [193.145.140.9]) by fobos.ulpgc.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437511F774 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:26:07 +0000 (WET) Received: from NEUMANN/SpoolDir by neumann.teleco.ulpgc.es (Mercury 1.44); 10 Mar 100 14:29:15 + 00 Received: from SpoolDir by NEUMANN (Mercury 1.44); 10 Mar 100 14:28:59 + 00 Received: from neumann.teleco.ulpgc.es (193.145.141.73) by neumann.teleco.ulpgc.es (Mercury 1.44) with ESMTP; 10 Mar 100 14:28:50 + 00 Message-ID: <38C906C0.ABAE44D5@neumann.teleco.ulpgc.es> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:29:20 +0000 From: "Sean C. McCarthy" <6638t@neumann.teleco.ulpgc.es> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.7 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Protect one's document References: <001d01bf8a0e$269a87e0$9f1053c3@jmferrar> <200003101339.IAA09518@uakron.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "D. P. Story" wrote: > > On 10 Mar 00, at 8:57, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > Jean-Michel Ferrard writes: > > > It's certainly a basic question, but I take the risk: > > > is it possible to give some protection level to the document I > > create with > pdflatex, as with Adobe Distiller when I convert ps > > files to pdf ones? More > precisely, I should like to prevent my > > students to modify pdf files I intend > to give them. > > > > My understanding is that this not possible using "pdfmark", or pdftex > > primitives. If anyone has done it, tell us about it. You can, of > > course, use the Acrobat security features if you load the file into > > full Acrobat Exchange. > > > > Sebastian > > > That is my understanding as well, you cannot set security using > the pdfmark. However, Distiller 4.0+ now can set security for you > as you, this makes it much easier to produce pdf on a large scale > with security. As for pdflatex, you must use Acrobat (Exchange) > to set security. > > dps > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu > http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics > and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 > AcroTeX Site Overview:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html > Site Highlights: e-Calculus; Algebra Review in Ten Lessons; Mathematical Games; > Pdfmarks:Links and Forms; Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW > The Web and Exerquiz Packages for LaTeX > and much, much more. Hi, I know that it's not bussiness of pdfTeX making encryption of the file, from my point of view, but the MD5 and other crypto-algorithms needed to encrypt the file and add security to a pdf file as described in the pdfspec are already available, at least in Linux for other porpouses (porting is always possible). Implementing security is not a trivial task, but I think it's feasible to do it outside pdfTeX and in some way do calls to it. This way the bit allowing changes, printing, and even showing the document would be possible. I have background on encryption and security, if someone is thinking of doing it drop me a mail, maybe I can help on it. Sean C. McCarthy 10-Mar-2000 16:34:10-GMT,2531;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25524 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:34:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11987 for pdftex-list; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:07:41 -0500 Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11984 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:07:39 -0500 Received: from dpstory (story.mathsci-tp.uakron.edu [130.101.96.33]) by uakron.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26141; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:04:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003101604.LAA26141@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" To: "Sean C. McCarthy" <6638t@neumann.teleco.ulpgc.es> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:05:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Protect one's document CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <38C90671.50021943@neumann.teleco.ulpgc.es> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I don't know much about encryption, but I seem to remember that it requires a key. Adobe keeps the key secret. Others will have a greater knowledge of this topic. dps On 10 Mar 00, at 14:28, Sean C. McCarthy wrote: > > Hi, > > I know that it's not bussiness of pdfTeX making encryption of the > file, from my point of view, but the MD5 and other crypto-algorithms > needed to encrypt the file and add security to a pdf file as described > in the pdfspec are already available, at least in Linux for other > porpouses (porting is always possible). Implementing security is not a > trivial task, but I think it's feasible to do it outside pdfTeX and in > some way do calls to it. This way the bit allowing changes, printing, > and even showing the document would be possible. > > I have background on encryption and security, if someone is thinking > of doing it drop me a mail, maybe I can help on it. > > Sean C. McCarthy > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Site Overview:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Highlights: e-Calculus; Algebra Review in Ten Lessons; Mathematical Games; Pdfmarks:Links and Forms; Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW The Web and Exerquiz Packages for LaTeX and much, much more. 10-Mar-2000 18:21:48-GMT,2012;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29309 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:21:47 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12608 for pdftex-list; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:56:20 -0500 Received: from yogi.urz.unibas.ch (yogi.urz.unibas.ch [131.152.1.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12605 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:56:18 -0500 Received: from wwz_wirtheott ([131.152.61.129]) by ubaclu.unibas.ch (PMDF V5.2-29 #33343) with SMTP id <01JMVMMW7QGC8WY39M@ubaclu.unibas.ch> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:54:51 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:55:17 +0100 From: Jose Perez Subject: X-Sender: perezj@ubaclu.unibas.ch To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <3.0.5.32.20000310185517.008f4400@ubaclu.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm looking for a simple way to include external selfmade graphics into my pdf-output. But I have a problem: I have made a simple draw with the program "Mayura Draw 3.5", and I have exported this to "simple.pdf". Then I run the following text in a file "test.tex": \documentclass{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphics} \begin{document} \includegraphics*{simple.pdf} \end{document} Unfortunatly I don't get an error message while compiling this, nor is it possible to open the file "test.pdf". The log-file has some warning messages like > [1 > {pdftex.map > Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbot8rn': too big val > ue of SlantFont (850) and the following error message: > Error: pdflatex: pdf inclusion: invalid font in reference type Am I doing something wrong, or doesn't "Mayura-Draw" produce compatible Pdf-outputs? Bye, Jose. 10-Mar-2000 18:39:52-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29820 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:39:51 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12628 for pdftex-list; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:59:11 -0500 Received: from elch.de.uu.net (elch.de.uu.net [192.76.144.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12625 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:59:05 -0500 Received: from gmx.de (pec-156.au3.b.uunet.de [149.228.254.156]) by elch.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id SAA26600; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:55:21 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38C9379A.8CADF832@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:57:46 +0100 From: Tobias Burnus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "D. P. Story" CC: "Sean C. McCarthy" <6638t@neumann.teleco.ulpgc.es>, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Protect one's document References: <200003101604.LAA26141@uakron.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, a starting point would be pdf_sec.ps of/for ghostscript. I quote: ------------------- % pdf_sec.ps (version 1.0.4) % Implementation of security hooks for PDF reader. % This file contains the procedures that have to take encryption into % account when reading a PDF file. It replaces the stub version of this % file that is shipped with GhostScript. It requires GhostScript version 4.02 % or later. % Documentation for using this file is available at % http://www.ozemail.com.au/%7Egeoffk/pdfencrypt/ ------------------- Still we _might_ need a private key. Tobias 10-Mar-2000 21:27:15-GMT,3461;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04669 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:27:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13444 for pdftex-list; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:58:37 -0500 Received: from ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (IDENT:root@ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.190]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13441 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:58:34 -0500 Received: from infor.uva.es (diogenes.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.56]) by ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03109 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:59:34 +0100 Message-ID: <38C9638E.FD564AAA@infor.uva.es> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:05:19 +0100 From: Hernando Silva Varela Organization: Universidad de Valladolid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Displaying next item rather than next page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id PAA13442 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have reached the point of having a pdf document obtained by compiling the tex file with pdflatex. This document uses the packages "hyperref" and "pause", among others" in order to go to other pages (by clicking in some areas or symbols) and show itemized lists step by step, respectively. This has been accomplished by using in the latex file code like ----------------------------------------------------------------------- \def\tni{\color{black}$\blacktriangleleft$} \def\tnd{\color{black}$\blacktriangleright$} \def\tri{\color{red}$\blacktriangleleft$} \def\trd{\color{red}$\blacktriangleright$} \def\LastPage{100} %\AtEndDocument{\clearpage\addtocounter{page}{-1} %\immediate\write\@auxout{\string\gdef\string\LastPage{\arabic{page}}}} \rightfooter{\quad\textsf{\thepage}} \MyLogo{Universidad de Valladolid -} \Restriction{Departamento de Informática} \rightheader{\hyperlink{inicio}{INICIO} \Acrobatmenu{FirstPage}{\ifnum\thepage=1\tni\tni\else\tri\tri\fi} \Acrobatmenu{PrevPage}{\ifnum\thepage=1\tni\else\tri\fi} \Acrobatmenu{NextPage}{\ifnum\thepage=\number\LastPage\tnd\else\trd\fi} \Acrobatmenu{LastPage}{\ifnum\thepage=\number\LastPage\tnd\tnd\else\trd\trd\fi}} -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are, however, some troubles. a) When in the middle of an itemized list (which is shown step by step) the "PrevPage" or "NextPage" symbols are clicked, the computer writes (erases) the next (previous) item of the list insted of showing the next (previous) page. b) Sometimes the hypersymbol for the next page does not work at all and the computer shows the same information in the screen. c) The variable "LastPage" does not work at all in the comparison; the pdflatex compiler complains about it. That's why I decided to cancel those (two) lines. Any advice or idea ?. Thanks in advance. Hernando. P.S. The document class is foils, the compiler is miktex 1.20, pdftex version is 0.14 and this code is sort of a mixture between "foils" and "pdfslide" -- __________________________________ Hernando Silva Varela Departamento de Informática (ETIT) Universidad de Valladolid C\ Camino del Cementerio S/N 47011 Valladolid, España (Spain) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 13-Mar-2000 16:07:12-GMT,3893;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24555 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:07:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00882 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:43:28 -0500 Received: from yogi.urz.unibas.ch (yogi.urz.unibas.ch [131.152.1.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00873 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:43:24 -0500 Received: from wwz_wirtheott ([131.152.61.129]) by ubaclu.unibas.ch (PMDF V5.2-29 #33343) with SMTP id <01JMZKU29GZM8WZV55@ubaclu.unibas.ch> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:46:32 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:47:00 +0100 From: Jose Perez Subject: pdftex and Mayura Draw In-reply-to: <38CCDB67.AA3DCCE@mail.usyd.edu.au> X-Sender: perezj@ubaclu.unibas.ch To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <3.0.5.32.20000313144700.008fae20@ubaclu.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <3.0.5.32.20000310185517.008f4400@ubaclu.unibas.ch> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Robert and Mark, thank you for your answers. I think I have found something that you are also interested in. After Robert's message I have visited again Mayura's homepage (http://www.mayura.com/) and there I have found the new program "Mayura Draw 3.6 (beta)" under the title "Vector graphics for the web". It is still a Beta-version, but for me it works. The pdf-exports of this program are compatible with the pdftex-outputs, first of all with: \usepackage[pdftex]{graphics} I'm satisfied with this solution and hope you will enjoy it also. Bye, Jose. At 23:13 13.03.00 +1100, Robert Howlett wrote: > > >Jose Perez wrote: >> >> The log-file has some warning messages like >> ... >> and the following error message: >> >> > Error: pdflatex: pdf inclusion: invalid font in reference type >> >> >> Am I doing something wrong, or doesn't "Mayura-Draw" produce compatible >> Pdf-outputs? >> >> Bye, Jose. > >Mayura-Draw apparently produces invalid pdf files. This was noted >recently on this list, and at that time Thanh wrote in reply to >some earlier message: > >>> Hi Edward and Tan! >>> >>> Surprise, surprise but I too am using Mayura Draw. >>> I'll give the conversion program you mentioned a >>> try and see if it works better. >>> >>> In my previous letter to you Tan I was mistaken >>> when I said that I had tried removing all of >>> the pictures. I'll try that tomorrow. >> >>I looked at the file: even though it can be viewed with Acrobat Reader, this file is >>an invalid PDF according to PDF spec. In fact running pdftops or xpdf on this >>file failed as well. In case anyone cares why it is invalid, the pdf >>spec says: >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Each key in the Resources dictionary is The name of a resource type; >>each value is a dictionary or an array. If it is a dictionary, its >>keys are the resource names, and its values are indirect references to >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>the PDF objects specifying those resources. If it is an array, it >>contains a list of names. Only ProcSet resources are represented as >>arrays in the Resources dictionary; all other resource lists are >>represented as dictionaries. >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>The pdf file sent to me has the Resources dict containing a Font dict, >>whose keys are not pairs /resource_name but the >>fonts resources are included directly. Therefore I consider it as a >>problem of the software that created the pdf file. >> >>Regards, >>Thanh > 13-Mar-2000 16:07:16-GMT,3175;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24559 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:07:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00663 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:37:22 -0500 Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00660 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:37:13 -0500 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (p2488.net10.usyd.edu.au [10.0.9.184]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28337; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:06:08 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <38CCDB67.AA3DCCE@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:13:27 +1100 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose Perez CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: References: <3.0.5.32.20000310185517.008f4400@ubaclu.unibas.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jose Perez wrote: > > The log-file has some warning messages like > ... > and the following error message: > > > Error: pdflatex: pdf inclusion: invalid font in reference type > > > Am I doing something wrong, or doesn't "Mayura-Draw" produce compatible > Pdf-outputs? > > Bye, Jose. Mayura-Draw apparently produces invalid pdf files. This was noted recently on this list, and at that time Thanh wrote in reply to some earlier message: >> Hi Edward and Tan! >> >> Surprise, surprise but I too am using Mayura Draw. >> I'll give the conversion program you mentioned a >> try and see if it works better. >> >> In my previous letter to you Tan I was mistaken >> when I said that I had tried removing all of >> the pictures. I'll try that tomorrow. > >I looked at the file: even though it can be viewed with Acrobat Reader, this file is >an invalid PDF according to PDF spec. In fact running pdftops or xpdf on this >file failed as well. In case anyone cares why it is invalid, the pdf >spec says: > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Each key in the Resources dictionary is The name of a resource type; >each value is a dictionary or an array. If it is a dictionary, its >keys are the resource names, and its values are indirect references to > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >the PDF objects specifying those resources. If it is an array, it >contains a list of names. Only ProcSet resources are represented as >arrays in the Resources dictionary; all other resource lists are >represented as dictionaries. >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The pdf file sent to me has the Resources dict containing a Font dict, >whose keys are not pairs /resource_name but the >fonts resources are included directly. Therefore I consider it as a >problem of the software that created the pdf file. > >Regards, >Thanh 13-Mar-2000 16:13:14-GMT,1984;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24752 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:13:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00759 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:38:33 -0500 Received: from pine.frazmtn.com (root@pine.frazmtn.com [204.212.38.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00749 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:38:23 -0500 Received: from [204.212.38.166] (dyn68.frazmtn.com [204.212.38.166]) by pine.frazmtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA57603; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:46:42 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: deleeuw@laplace.stat.ucla.edu Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:46:41 -0800 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Jan de Leeuw Subject: metapost graph in pdftex Cc: tom@kiffe.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Is it true that I cannot use the metapost graph macros in metapost code included in tex (as in samplepdf.tex or t.tex) and then run through pdftex ? If I include "input graph" then mpost loads other macros and starts tex and then gets into trouble. I use CMacTeX, latest version of pdftex, carbonized, starts up mpost with apple events. -- === Jan de Leeuw; Professor and Chair, UCLA Department of Statistics; US mail: 8142 Math Sciences Bldg, Box 951554, Los Angeles, CA 90095-1554 phone (310)-825-9550; fax (310)-206-5658; email: deleeuw@stat.ucla.edu http://www.stat.ucla.edu/~deleeuw and http://home1.gte.net/datamine/ ============================================================================ No matter where you go, there you are. --- Buckaroo Banzai http://webdev.stat.ucla.edu/sounds/nomatter.au ============================================================================ 13-Mar-2000 16:13:47-GMT,2122;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24777 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:13:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00887 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:43:31 -0500 Received: from yogi.urz.unibas.ch (yogi.urz.unibas.ch [131.152.1.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00883 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:43:28 -0500 Received: from wwz_wirtheott ([131.152.61.129]) by ubaclu.unibas.ch (PMDF V5.2-29 #33343) with SMTP id <01JMYGKBE3RU8X047L@ubaclu.unibas.ch> for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:33:21 +0100 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:33:48 +0100 From: Jose Perez Subject: Mayura Draw and pdftex In-reply-to: X-Sender: perezj@ubaclu.unibas.ch To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <3.0.5.32.20000312193348.0091b720@ubaclu.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Mark, Yes, the Acrobat Viewer can read the file simple.pdf excellently. I have also tried the way EPS -> DVI -> Ghostscript -> PDF and it works. But with this way I would have to give up many beautiful features of the the pdftex-program, like the hyperref-package and by the way the output-file isn't so nice as with pdftex. Bye, Jose. At 09:34 12.03.00 -0800, Wroth, Mark wrote: >Can you open the PDF file itself (simple.pdf) using either the Acrobat >viewer or Ghostscript? That would be an initial test of whether the PDF >file is itself OK. > >If you find a good solution to creating PDF graphics for inclusion, I'd like >to know about it. So far I have failed miserably; I've wound up using PNG >bitmaps in several projects because I couldn't get a usable PDF file. But, >while I've drawn graphics with Mayura Draw and done the EPS -> Ghostscript >-> PDF route, I hadn't tried to export directly from Mayura Draw. > 13-Mar-2000 17:46:29-GMT,4046;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27445 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:46:28 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02647 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:24:00 -0500 Received: from schof.Colorado.EDU (root@schof.Colorado.EDU [128.138.189.30]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02644 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:23:58 -0500 Received: from ulysses (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by schof.Colorado.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.3/UnixOps+Hesiod (PDH)) with ESMTP id KAA11565 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:26:45 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003131726.KAA11565@schof.Colorado.EDU> From: "Edward F Kuester" Organization: University of Colorado To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:23:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PDF from MayuraDraw In-reply-to: <38CCDB67.AA3DCCE@mail.usyd.edu.au> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk To all present and potential MayuraDraw users: I got an email from the author of MayuraDraw over the weekend informing me that the latest beta version 3.6 of MayuraDraw, which is available from his website: http://www.mayura.com/ now has the PDF problem fixed. A quick test on my part has confirmed that its PDF output now works properly for graphics insertion with pdflatex. So, give it a try, and enjoy. Regards, ---Edward Kuester On 13 Mar 00, at 23:13, Robert Howlett wrote: > > > Jose Perez wrote: > > > > The log-file has some warning messages like > > ... > > and the following error message: > > > > > Error: pdflatex: pdf inclusion: invalid font in reference type > > > > > > Am I doing something wrong, or doesn't "Mayura-Draw" produce compatible > > Pdf-outputs? > > > > Bye, Jose. > > Mayura-Draw apparently produces invalid pdf files. This was noted > recently on this list, and at that time Thanh wrote in reply to > some earlier message: > > >> Hi Edward and Tan! > >> > >> Surprise, surprise but I too am using Mayura Draw. > >> I'll give the conversion program you mentioned a > >> try and see if it works better. > >> > >> In my previous letter to you Tan I was mistaken > >> when I said that I had tried removing all of > >> the pictures. I'll try that tomorrow. > > > >I looked at the file: even though it can be viewed with Acrobat Reader, this > >file is an invalid PDF according to PDF spec. In fact running pdftops or xpdf > >on this file failed as well. In case anyone cares why it is invalid, the pdf > >spec says: > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Each key in the Resources dictionary is The name of a resource type; > >each value is a dictionary or an array. If it is a dictionary, its > >keys are the resource names, and its values are indirect references to > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >the PDF objects specifying those resources. If it is an array, it > >contains a list of names. Only ProcSet resources are represented as > >arrays in the Resources dictionary; all other resource lists are > >represented as dictionaries. > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >The pdf file sent to me has the Resources dict containing a Font dict, > >whose keys are not pairs /resource_name but the > >fonts resources are included directly. Therefore I consider it as a > >problem of the software that created the pdf file. > > > >Regards, > >Thanh > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Professor Edward F Kuester Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering Campus Box 425 University of Colorado Boulder, Colorado 80309 USA Telephone: (303) 492-5173 FAX: (303) 492-2758 13-Mar-2000 19:14:17-GMT,2443;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29788 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:14:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03589 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:50:28 -0500 Received: from villi.usask.ca (IDENT:root@villi.usask.ca [128.233.17.87]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03585 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:50:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (ildar@localhost) by villi.usask.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24780 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:38:21 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:38:20 -0600 (CST) From: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: How to get TeX fonts for metapost output? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, all: This might be off topic here, but I will appreciate any pointers to relevant information. I have a metapost output which include TeX fonts, like cmr10. When I try to view this output using gv, gs I get the error: Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0 (2000-02-03) Copyright (C) 2000 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. Error: /undefined in cmsy10 Operand stack: (\000) Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:945/983(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:66/200(L)-- Current allocation mode is local Current file position is 3035 Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 Of course pdftoeps will not work too in this case. However, including this file via graphicx package and using dvips has no problem at all. I presume this is the problem of telling ghostscript about TeX fonts. Is there any way to do this consistently? What is a correct procedure to use metapost output withh pdftex? Thank you for any help. Sincerely Ildar 13-Mar-2000 20:11:36-GMT,1675;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01264 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:11:35 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04213 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:46:04 -0500 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04210 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:46:03 -0500 Received: from tashkent.berkeley.edu (root@tashkent.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.183.151]) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23842; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vojta@localhost) by tashkent.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) id LAA10188; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:46:00 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:46:00 -0800 From: Paul Vojta Message-Id: <200003131946.LAA10188@tashkent.berkeley.edu> To: ildar@villi.usask.ca, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to get TeX fonts for metapost output? Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:38:20 -0600 (CST) > From: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: How to get TeX fonts for metapost output? > > Hi, all: > > This might be off topic here, but I will appreciate > any pointers to relevant information. The correct place to ask is comp.text.tex. > I have a metapost output which include TeX fonts, > like cmr10. > > When I try to view this output using gv, gs > I get the error: Include it in a TeX document and then view it. --Paul Vojta, vojta@math.berkeley.edu 13-Mar-2000 20:20:22-GMT,1881;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01493 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:20:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04283 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:58:32 -0500 Received: from kali.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04280 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:58:29 -0500 Received: (from ecashin@localhost) by kali.coe.uga.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20832; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:58:15 -0500 To: Jan de Leeuw Cc: pdftex@tug.org, tom@kiffe.com Subject: Re: metapost graph in pdftex References: From: ecashin@coe.uga.edu (Ed L. Cashin) Date: 13 Mar 2000 14:58:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: Jan de Leeuw's message of "Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:46:41 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jan de Leeuw writes: > Is it true that I cannot use the metapost graph macros in > metapost code included in tex (as in samplepdf.tex or t.tex) > and then run through pdftex ? If I include "input graph" then > mpost loads other macros and starts tex and then gets into > trouble. > > I use CMacTeX, latest version of pdftex, carbonized, > starts up mpost with apple events. Does CMacTeX include ConTeXt? If so, from plain you can use the \convertMPtoPDF macro after doing "\input supp-pdf". You can also use ConTeXt for lots of MetaPost support. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 13-Mar-2000 20:49:27-GMT,1946;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03135 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:49:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04326 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:00:46 -0500 Received: from kali.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04323 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:00:43 -0500 Received: (from ecashin@localhost) by kali.coe.uga.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20840; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:00:40 -0500 To: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to get TeX fonts for metapost output? References: From: ecashin@coe.uga.edu (Ed L. Cashin) Date: 13 Mar 2000 15:00:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov's message of "Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:38:20 -0600 (CST)" Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ildar Khabibrakhmanov writes: ... > Of course pdftoeps will not work too in this case. > However, including this file via graphicx package and > using dvips has no problem at all. > > I presume this is the problem of telling ghostscript about > TeX fonts. I've noticed problems with GS if my metapost figure goes into negative coordinates. > Is there any way to do this consistently? > What is a correct procedure to use metapost output > withh pdftex? You can load supp-pdf and use the \convertMPtoPDF macro to include the metapost figure if you're using plain tex. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 13-Mar-2000 22:34:14-GMT,2221;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05852 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:34:12 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05360 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:06:19 -0500 Received: from localgw.inet.cz (brno-l.router.inet.cz [62.229.34.226]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05357 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:06:16 -0500 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (dialup2.inet.cz [62.229.34.210]) by localgw.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA14869; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:11:25 +0100 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA05370; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:37:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: SnowWhite.inet.cz: pavel set sender to Pavel.Janik@inet.cz using -f To: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to get TeX fonts for metapost output? References: X-Operating-System: Linux 2.3.50 on Intel, Linux 2.2.10 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-Phone: +420 5 41242414 ext. 31 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Reply-To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 13 Mar 2000 22:37:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov's message of "Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:38:20 -0600 (CST)" Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:38:20 -0600 (CST) Hi, > I have a metapost output which include TeX fonts, > like cmr10. > > When I try to view this output using gv, gs > I get the error: try this: (echo "prologues:=1;"; cat old.mp) >new.mp -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz 13-Mar-2000 22:39:14-GMT,1705;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05961 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:39:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05426 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:18:42 -0500 Received: from villi.usask.ca (IDENT:root@villi.usask.ca [128.233.17.87]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05423 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:18:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (ildar@localhost) by villi.usask.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29001; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:05:58 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:05:58 -0600 (CST) From: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov To: "Pavel Janik ml." cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to get TeX fonts for metapost output? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tug.org id RAA05424 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 13 Mar 2000, Pavel Janik ml. wrote: > From: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:38:20 -0600 (CST) > > Hi, > > > I have a metapost output which include TeX fonts, > > like cmr10. > > > > When I try to view this output using gv, gs > > I get the error: > > try this: > > (echo "prologues:=1;"; cat old.mp) >new.mp > -- > Pavel Janík ml. > Pavel.Janik@inet.cz > This is exactly what I wanted, thanks a lot. Sincerely Ildar 14-Mar-2000 8:15:43-GMT,2241;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA19057 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 01:15:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA07061 for pdftex-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:45:22 -0500 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07058 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:45:19 -0500 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.103]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAB24FA; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:45:00 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000313224025.00801b80@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:40:25 +0100 To: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: How to get TeX fonts for metapost output? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:38 PM 3/13/2000 -0600, Ildar Khabibrakhmanov wrote: >Hi, all: > >This might be off topic here, but I will appreciate >any pointers to relevant information. > >I have a metapost output which include TeX fonts, >like cmr10. Since fonts are not included, you must make sure GS is properly set up. Locate the gs map files and add the cmr entries (lowercase and uppercase). [here I avoid this problem by saying "texexec --figure=c whatever.1" which produces a pdf file with embedded fonts and properly clipped, a stand alone mp/pdf figure so to say; you need to have context installed for this. Other alternatives are 'a' and 'b' as well as passing wildcards, say whatever.*] Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Mar-2000 8:55:26-GMT,2511;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA19891 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 01:55:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA07210 for pdftex-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:17:05 -0500 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07207 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:17:03 -0500 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.81]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AABAB9; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:16:57 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000314085029.01791100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:50:29 +0100 To: ecashin@coe.uga.edu (Ed L. Cashin) From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: How to get TeX fonts for metapost output? Cc: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 03:00 PM 3/13/2000 -0500, Ed L. Cashin wrote: >Ildar Khabibrakhmanov writes: > >... >> Of course pdftoeps will not work too in this case. >> However, including this file via graphicx package and >> using dvips has no problem at all. >> >> I presume this is the problem of telling ghostscript about >> TeX fonts. > >I've noticed problems with GS if my metapost figure goes into negative >coordinates. > >> Is there any way to do this consistently? >> What is a correct procedure to use metapost output >> withh pdftex? > >You can load supp-pdf and use the \convertMPtoPDF macro to include the >metapost figure if you're using plain tex. Remark: The latest supp-pdf makes sure that mp graphics are moved into positive coordinates, which gives more precise results in acrobat viewers. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Mar-2000 2:27:23-GMT,4138;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15047 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:27:22 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10044 for pdftex-list; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:42:29 -0500 Received: from biology.usu.edu (biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10041 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:42:27 -0500 Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233-1.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.16.3]) by biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 1YX1NV6K; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:42:26 -0700 Message-ID: <38CEEB9A.400A2DAC@biology.usu.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:47:06 -0700 From: "James W. Haefner" Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX@tug.org Subject: problem printing pdf graphics in pdflatex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am using SuSE 6.3 and pdftex version 14e released 200000217. I have downloaded and installed the most recent pdftex.def (and supp...) files. I am using GNU Ghostscript 5.10 (1998-12-17). When I use acroread, I can printtext and bitmapped graphics (e.g., \includegraphics{test.jpg}, or ...{test.png}). Of course the print quality is poor with jagged lines. After using epstopdf (the script) on test.eps, I see the figure nicely in acroread, but when I print, linux tells me it is printing, but nothing appears on the printer and there is nothing in the print queue. If there is a page before the graphic, that page prints, but not the one with the graphic. The reason I am bothering this group is that if I simply load test.pdf (the graphic itself) into acroread, it does print. Therefore, this is not simply a problem with my unix printer drivers; it is the result of some interaction with pdflatex. Attached is the tex and log files. Any suggestions would be appreciated. =========================== \documentclass[10pt]{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \renewcommand{\sfdefault}{phv} \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{pnc} \begin{document} %\DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} %\includegraphics{spl-04.png} \includegraphics[width=4in height=6in]{spl-04.pdf} %\includegraphics*{spl-04.jpg} \end{document} ======================== ...truncated log (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing \protectiondepth=\count88 \scratchcounter=\count89 \scratchdimen=\dimen105 \scratchskip=\skip43 \scratchmuskip=\muskip10 \scratchbox=\box26 \scratchread=\read1 \scratchwrite=\write3 \nextbox=\box27 \nextdepth=\dimen106 \everyline=\toks15 \!!counta=\count90 \!!countb=\count91 \recursecounter=\count92 ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF \nofMPsegments=\count93 \nofMParguments=\count94 ) File: spl-04.pdf Graphic file (type pdf) Overfull \hbox (18.33948pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 9--11 []\OT1/pnc/m/n/10 heightheight[] [] [1 {/var/lib/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map} <./spl-04.pdf>] (atestb.aux) ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 754 strings out of 25556 8530 string characters out of 693001 53206 words of memory out of 384000 3792 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+15000 5043 words of font info for 16 fonts, out of 400000 for 1000 5043 words of font info for 16 fonts, out of 400000 for 1000 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 25i,4n,21p,209b,160s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,50000b,4000s {/usr/sh are/texmf/dvips/base/8r.enc} Output written on atestb.pdf (1 page, 43245 bytes). -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 15-Mar-2000 16:50:06-GMT,1610;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04446 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:50:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12760 for pdftex-list; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:55:10 -0500 Received: from biology.usu.edu (biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12757 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:55:08 -0500 Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233-1.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.16.3]) by biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 1YX1NWJD; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 08:55:07 -0700 Message-ID: <38CFB36E.B92D80D5@biology.usu.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 08:59:42 -0700 From: "James W. Haefner" Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX Subject: problem printing pdf graphics in pdflatex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to the several folks who suggested that upgrading to GS6.0 was an obvious thing to try. It worked. For those who are lazy like me, there is an rpm that works for SuSE 6.3: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/aladdin/get600.html Jim H. -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 15-Mar-2000 17:20:27-GMT,2654;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05238 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:20:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13002 for pdftex-list; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:57:40 -0500 Received: from ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (IDENT:root@ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.190]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12999 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:56:37 -0500 Received: from infor.uva.es (diogenes.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.56]) by ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18635 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:56:35 +0100 Message-ID: <38CFC229.65D1A459@infor.uva.es> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:02:33 +0100 From: Hernando Silva Varela Organization: Universidad de Valladolid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Some annoying messages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA13000 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk When running "pdflatex" (v.g., pdftex 0.14e and miktex 1.20) on myfile.tex the compiler replies with some annoying messages like ... (C:\texmf\tex\context\base\supp-pdf.tex (C:\texmf\tex\context\base\supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) (C:\texmf\tex\latex\hyperref\nameref.sty) (defensa.out) (defensa.out) [0{pdftex.map}{winfonts.map Warning: PDFLATEX (file winfonts.map): invalid entry for `rectimeso': SlantFont /ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1 fonts Warning: PDFLATEX (file winfonts.map): invalid entry for `rectimesbdo': SlantFo nt/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1 fonts ... Although the PDF file (generated) seems to be okay, I would like to eliminate such messages. My question is, what those messages mean and how can I avoid them ? Hernando. P.S. I made some True Type fonts changes in my system by following the directions of the document "Using True Type fonts with TeX (LaTeX) and pdfTeX (pdfLaTeX)" written by Damir Rakityansky, which is located in http://www.radamir.com/tex/ttf-tex.htm. Although evrything seemed to work okay, there were some differences between the replies of the machine and those mentioned in the document. -- __________________________________ Hernando Silva Varela Departamento de Informática (ETIT) Universidad de Valladolid C\ Camino del Cementerio S/N 47011 Valladolid, España (Spain) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 15-Mar-2000 20:28:08-GMT,2160;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10589 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:28:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13911 for pdftex-list; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:04:18 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13908 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:04:16 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12VK1c-0001sM-00; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:04:12 +0000 Received: from max67.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.67] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12VK1c-0000hS-00; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:04:12 +0000 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14543.59819.442572.842158@localhost.localdomain> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:51:07 +0000 (GMT) To: hernando@infor.uva.es Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Some annoying messages In-Reply-To: <38CFC229.65D1A459@infor.uva.es> References: <38CFC229.65D1A459@infor.uva.es> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hernando Silva Varela writes: > loading : Context Support Macros / PDF > ) (C:\texmf\tex\latex\hyperref\nameref.sty) (defensa.out) (defensa.out) > [0{pdftex.map}{winfonts.map > Warning: PDFLATEX (file winfonts.map): invalid entry for `rectimeso': > SlantFont > /ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1 fonts winfonts.map comes from MikTeX. Talk to the MikTeX support list about it > Although the PDF file (generated) seems to be okay, I would like to > eliminate such messages. My question is, what those messages mean > and how can I avoid them ? it means that whoever wrote winfonts did not read the pdftex documentation carefully, and failed to check the file after an update Sebastian 16-Mar-2000 14:10:40-GMT,3739;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03945 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:10:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16052 for pdftex-list; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:14:29 -0500 Received: from mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (root@mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16049 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:14:22 -0500 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA20597; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:13:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14262; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:13:33 +0100 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA01916; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:13:30 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:13:30 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200003161313.OAA01916@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> From: Klaus Guntermann MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Hernando Silva Varela Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Displaying next item rather than next page In-Reply-To: <38C9638E.FD564AAA@infor.uva.es> References: <38C9638E.FD564AAA@infor.uva.es> X-Mailer: VM 6.32 under 19.15p5 XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I haven't been able to look into this problem until now, but as I haven't seen a reaction either, it seems to be my duty to help out, because some of the problems are related to PPower4. Hernando Silva Varela writes: > a) When in the middle of an itemized list (which is shown step by step) the > "PrevPage" or "NextPage" symbols are clicked, the computer writes > (erases) the next (previous) item of the list insted of showing the > next (previous) page. The notion of pages in the Acrobatmenu is not based on "logical" pages, as they are numbered by TeX, but of physical page frames. Because PPower4 inserts additional pages to give you the impression of a page build, Acrobat has no chance other than showing the next frame in line, if you instruct it to advance by "NextPage". If you want to go to the "real" next page you will need to use hyperlinks, e.g. created by hyperref with somethink like \newcounter{tmp@count} ... \setcounter{tmp@count}{\value{page}}% \addtocounter{tmp@count}{1}% \hyperlink{page.\the\value{tmp@count}}{real-next-page}% But with PPower4 you are in trouble again, because a hyperlink to a page will lead you always to the completed page, not to the first frame of a page to build. This reaction seemed reasonable for random links between pages. It causes some problems if you just wanted to skip to the "start" of a page. As a preliminary solution I would suggest to add another hyperlink on each page to itself, which can be used to skip all following intermediate steps. From the full page you can then move on to the first part of the real next page with the Acrobat NextPage action. I'll think about another solution concerning PPower4. But do not expect that real soon. I cannot comment the other items in your list. Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt 17-Mar-2000 12:05:47-GMT,6963;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04207 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 05:05:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA19412 for pdftex-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:34:25 -0500 Received: from ntserver.graylab.ac.uk (ntserver.graylab.ac.uk [193.61.195.125]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA19409 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:34:23 -0500 Received: from pc2990.graylab.ac.uk ([193.61.195.37]) by ntserver.graylab.ac.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 752 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:30:08 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000317113119.008c0dd0@graylab.ac.uk> X-Sender: pinto@graylab.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:31:19 +0000 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "Massimo Pinto" Subject: Seeting up variables in texmf.cnf for pdftex-14e : help needed. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Community, I have installed: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (Web2c 7.3.1) (format=pdflatex 2000.2.19) as from the fpTeX0.4-alpha3 distribution for Win32, which I run on a windows 95 machine. Now I am setting up things so that pdfTeX can actually work. From the PDFTeX user manual (August, 20, 1999) I read in section 3.5 that the file texmf.cnf need to be revisited to let PDFTeX work. All right, here is the relevant (?) section: ---------------------- % pdfTeX. This form of the input paths is borrowed from teTeX. A certain % variant of TDS is assumed here, unaffected by the build variables. TEXINPUTS.pdfcslatex = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,tex}/{cslatex,csplain,latex,generic,config,}// TEXINPUTS.pdfcsplain = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,tex}/{csplain,plain,generic,config}/{misc,}// TEXINPUTS.pdfjadetex = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,tex}/{jadetex,plain,generic,config}/{misc,}// TEXINPUTS.pdflatex = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,tex}/{latex,generic,config,}// TEXINPUTS.pdfmex = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,tex}/{mex,plain,generic,config}/{misc,}// TEXINPUTS.pdftex = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,tex}/{plain,generic,config}/{misc,}// TEXINPUTS.pdftexinfo = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,tex}/{texinfo,plain,generic,config}/{misc,}// ---------------------- I have added the sub-directory config to each of the above definitions because there is my pdftex.cfg file. I have also added /misc to look for pdfcolor.tex which is loaded in samplepdf.tex When I run PDFTeX on samplepdf.tex here is the result: --------------------- This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (Web2c 7.3.1) (format=pdflatex 2000.2.19) 17 MAR 2000 11:22 **\pdfoutput=1 \input samplepdf.tex (samplepdf.tex (c:/TEX/texmf/pdftex/plain/misc/pdfcolor.tex) ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.90 T his is version \the\pdftexversion \pdftexrevision\ of \pdfTeX. ? Missing character: There is no T in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no h in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no i in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no s in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no i in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no s in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no v in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no e in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no r in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no s in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no i in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no o in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no n in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no 1 in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no 4 in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no e in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no o in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no f in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no p in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no d in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no f in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no T in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no E in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no X in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no . in font nullfont! ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.96 F ont \fontname\font\ has resource name tag ? Missing character: There is no F in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no o in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no n in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no t in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no n in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no u in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no l in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no l in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no f in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no o in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no n in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no t in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no h in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no a in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no s in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no r in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no e in font nullfont! Missing character: There is no s in font nullfont! 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Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 153 strings out of 10556 1592 string characters out of 67936 44003 words of memory out of 263001 3221 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+0 3640 words of font info for 14 fonts, out of 400000 for 1000 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 5i,1n,4p,176b,14s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,50000b,4000s No pages of output. ----------------------- An here I am stuck. Please give a hint if you can. Thanks Massimo ------------------------------------------------ Massimo Pinto Gray Laboratory Cancer Research Trust ph: +44(0)1923.828611 fax: +44(0)1923.835210 pinto@graylab.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------- 17-Mar-2000 18:58:02-GMT,1704;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13505 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:58:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21630 for pdftex-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:27:59 -0500 Received: from ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (IDENT:root@ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.190]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21627 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:27:47 -0500 Received: from infor.uva.es (diogenes.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.56]) by ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07107 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:28:51 +0100 Message-ID: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:34:22 +0100 From: Hernando Silva Varela Organization: Universidad de Valladolid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id NAA21628 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear friends, I apologize for this simple question. How can I create marks in the latex document so that after "pdftexing" Acrobat Reader shows a clickable index in the left window ?, can you provide a simple example ? Thanks in advance. Hernando. -- __________________________________ Hernando Silva Varela Departamento de Informática (ETIT) Universidad de Valladolid C\ Camino del Cementerio S/N 47011 Valladolid, España (Spain) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 17-Mar-2000 22:04:31-GMT,1992;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17928 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:04:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22811 for pdftex-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:39:42 -0500 Received: from yogi.urz.unibas.ch (yogi.urz.unibas.ch [131.152.1.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22808 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:39:40 -0500 Received: from wwz_wirtheott ([131.152.61.129]) by ubaclu.unibas.ch (PMDF V5.2-29 #33343) with SMTP id <01JN5MH3CL6Y8X3CHN@ubaclu.unibas.ch> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:38:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:38:35 +0100 From: Jose Perez Subject: Re: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? In-reply-to: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> X-Sender: perezj@ubaclu.unibas.ch To: Hernando Silva Varela , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <3.0.5.32.20000317223835.0091c9b0@ubaclu.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id QAA22809 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello Hernando, try \usepackage[pdftex, bookmarks, bookmarksopen]{hyperref} Bye, Jose. At 19:34 17.03.00 +0100, Hernando Silva Varela wrote: >Dear friends, > > I apologize for this simple question. How can I create >marks in the latex document so that after "pdftexing" Acrobat >Reader shows a clickable index in the left window ?, can you >provide a simple example ? > >Thanks in advance. > >Hernando. >-- >__________________________________ >Hernando Silva Varela >Departamento de Informática (ETIT) >Universidad de Valladolid > >C\ Camino del Cementerio S/N >47011 Valladolid, España (Spain) >¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ > 18-Mar-2000 4:09:21-GMT,1954;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25530 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:09:20 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23536 for pdftex-list; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:48:18 -0500 Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23533 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:48:14 -0500 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (p2488.net10.usyd.edu.au [10.0.9.184]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03389; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:48:02 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <38D2FE37.ADCF7D78@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:55:35 +1100 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Massimo Pinto CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Seeting up variables in texmf.cnf for pdftex-14e : help needed. References: <3.0.5.32.20000317113119.008c0dd0@graylab.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Massimo Pinto wrote: > > Dear Community, > > When I run PDFTeX on samplepdf.tex here is the result: > --------------------- > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (Web2c 7.3.1) > (format=pdflatex 2000.2.19) 17 MAR 2000 11:22 > **\pdfoutput=1 \input samplepdf.tex > (samplepdf.tex (c:/TEX/texmf/pdftex/plain/misc/pdfcolor.tex) > > ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. > > See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. > Type H for immediate help. > ... > > Please give a hint if you can. > > Thanks > > Massimo samplepdf.tex is not made for pdfLaTeX but for plain pdfTeX. So pdflatex samplepdf will not work. Try pdftex samplepdf instead. Bob Howlett 18-Mar-2000 13:32:57-GMT,1762;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05618 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 06:32:55 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA26085 for pdftex-list; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:29:37 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26078 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:29:33 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12WIMG-0007B6-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:29:32 +0000 Received: from max87.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.87] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12WIMG-000648-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:29:32 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.4.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under Emacs 20.4.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14547.28862.109030.314835@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:04:14 +0000 (GMT) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Aladdin Ghostscript 6.01 release & future plans In-Reply-To: <200003180646.WAA00668@aladdin.com> References: <200003180646.WAA00668@aladdin.com> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk not sure who else sees this, but an interesting snippet: > Two of the planned projects mentioned at the time of the 5.99 tester release > in January are already essentially done: we have implemented a PDF optimizer > (linearizer) which may be relevant to us, if it is free-standing sebastian 18-Mar-2000 13:33:43-GMT,1912;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05641 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 06:33:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA26063 for pdftex-list; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:29:23 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26060 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 07:29:21 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12WIM3-0007B0-00; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:29:19 +0000 Received: from max87.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.87] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12WIM2-0005SN-00; Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:29:18 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.4.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14546.40434.32613.816983@localhost.localdomain> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:04:50 +0000 (GMT) To: hernando@infor.uva.es Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? In-Reply-To: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> References: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hernando Silva Varela writes: > I apologize for this simple question. How can I create > marks in the latex document so that after "pdftexing" Acrobat > Reader shows a clickable index in the left window ?, can you > provide a simple example ? what do you mean by an index? a table of contents, or a real word index? if you mean the latter, there is not a simple canned method. if the former, just load the "hyperref" package. sebastian 19-Mar-2000 12:19:28-GMT,1493;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01644 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 05:19:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA29921 for pdftex-list; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 06:44:04 -0500 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29918 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 06:44:02 -0500 Received: from utinam.univ-fcomte.fr (utinam.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.201]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16072 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:45:23 GMT Received: from halebopp2 (ppp14.univ-fcomte.fr [193.55.66.14]) by utinam.univ-fcomte.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA20278 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:42:26 GMT Message-Id: <200003191242.MAA20278@utinam.univ-fcomte.fr> X-Sender: petiard@erdos.univ-fcomte.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:40:01 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Fran=E7ois?= Subject: Essai Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id GAA29919 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Essai -- Pétiard François Courriel : petiard@math.univ-fcomte.fr 20-Mar-2000 12:51:12-GMT,2656;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02140 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:51:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA32173 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:15:39 -0500 Received: from mx01.web.de (pop3.cinetic.de [194.45.170.160] (may be forged)) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA32170 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:15:37 -0500 Received: from web.de by mx01.web.de with smtp (freemail 4.0.1 #1057) id m12Wzdu-003dYWC; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:42 +0100 Message-ID: <38D600E6.72270D40@web.de> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:43:50 +0100 From: Christian Schlauer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org, Denis.Girou@idris.fr Subject: seminar.cls + pdftex: slide dimensions (partial solution) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello! There was a question with the subject "Slide dimenssions + seminar + pdftex" on the pdftex mailing list last year, and nobody answered. I encountered the same problem now and posted it to de.comp.text.tex (Message-ID <38C53169.1206843E@web.de>) and I got the following solution (thanks to Oliver Jennrich!): Problem: pdflatexing the file \documentclass{seminar} \input{seminar.bug} % doesn't change the behaviour \input{seminar.bg2} % doesn't change the behaviour \begin{document} \begin{slide} Test \end{slide} \end{document} gives you a pdf file with paper dimensions (435.5 x 616 mm). I get the same problem when I compile testslide.tex from the hyperref package. Solution: to get a4 paper size, put the following in your preamble: \newif\ifpdf \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX \else \pdfoutput=1 % we are running PDFLaTeX \pdftrue \fi \ifpdf \pdfpagewidth=297truemm % your milage may vary.... % ^^^^ \pdfpageheight=210truemm \pdfhorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \pdfvorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \fi I had to use the units "truemm" and "truein" to get the right paper size. BTW: my system is MikTeX 1.20e, pdftex 0.14e. Unfortunately, this just works for landscape slides, that's why I call it partial solution. For portrait slides, the paper dimensions for \pdfpagewidth and \pdfpageheight must be exchanged manually. If somebody knows how to write the \if ... \fi part considering that automagically, please post it. Christian 20-Mar-2000 12:53:24-GMT,2944;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02158 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:53:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA32185 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:29:22 -0500 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (bogo@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA32182 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 06:29:19 -0500 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03527 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:29:14 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA23801 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:29:13 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200003201129.WAA23801@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: SubmitForm question To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:29:13 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, This is a PDF question more than a pdfTeX one, but someone here may have encountered this before; the context is DP Story's exerquiz + extensions to provide a web-delivery system and automatic recording of quiz results. Here's the problem I face. I want to submit a form to a cgi-script, but leave the browser (with AcroRead plug-in) showing the same page. How is this done ? My cgi-script returns nothing; but the browser registers "internal server error". This advances the browser history, causing JavaScript information to be lost on returning to the PDF via the "Back" button. Surprisingly, I can get the effect I want when the viewing platform is a Macintosh, but not when Windows or Solaris -- all with AR-4.05 or similar version. The action dictionary looks something like: /A << /S /SubmitForm /F << /FS /URL /F (\eq@returnaddress) >> /Fields [(test) (testx)] /Flags 4 % HTML POST fields >> where \eq@returnaddress expands to a valid URL for the script. Alternatively, the action can be written using JavaScript, via submitForm(...). In either case the result is the same. You can test it with \def\eq@returnaddress{% http://www.maths.mq.edu.au/cgi-bin/playground/record.pl} e.g. http://www.maths.mq.edu.au/cgi-bin/playground/record.pl?test=foo&testx=bar The web-server log indicates "Premature end of script headers". So is the problem with a. Acrobat Reader b. the browser c. the web-server d. the cgi-script e. what I want to do; is it impossible to do this ? Is the web-server starting to send a header, even though the cgi-script prints nothing to STDOUT ? Can anyone help with this ? Ross Moore 20-Mar-2000 14:49:25-GMT,2352;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04876 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:49:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA32638 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:20:55 -0500 Received: from ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.190]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA32635 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:20:44 -0500 Received: from infor.uva.es (diogenes.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.56]) by ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03201 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:21:42 +0100 Message-ID: <38D6353F.56F35E3@infor.uva.es> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:27:11 +0100 From: Hernando Silva Varela Organization: Universidad de Valladolid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? References: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> <14546.40434.32613.816983@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id JAA32636 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote > what do you mean by an index? a table of contents, or a real word > index? if you mean the latter, there is not a simple canned method. if > the former, just load the "hyperref" package. and José Pérez wrote: > try > > \usepackage[pdftex, bookmarks, bookmarksopen]{hyperref} Thanks for your help. What I really want to generate is a table of contents (rather than an index); however, I am using the foiltex class package, which makes no sectioning of the document (v.g., no chapters, section, subsections, etc.). Thereby, it seems that besides using the hyperref package, as suggested by you, I must write some specific code in order to create the marks for the left window of Acrobat Reader. Please, can you tell me the right commands for the marks ? Thanks once again. Hernando. -- __________________________________ Hernando Silva Varela Departamento de Informática (ETIT) Universidad de Valladolid C\ Camino del Cementerio S/N 47011 Valladolid, España (Spain) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 20-Mar-2000 20:56:48-GMT,2206;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17219 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:56:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02566 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:34:33 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02563 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:34:31 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12X8sT-0006am-00; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:34:17 +0000 Received: from max35.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.35] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12X8sS-0000iD-00; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:34:16 +0000 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14550.33412.446010.704412@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 19:56:52 +0000 (GMT) To: hernando@infor.uva.es Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? In-Reply-To: <38D6353F.56F35E3@infor.uva.es> References: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> <14546.40434.32613.816983@localhost.localdomain> <38D6353F.56F35E3@infor.uva.es> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hernando Silva Varela writes: > Thanks for your help. What I really want to generate is a table of > contents (rather than an index); however, I am using the foiltex > class package, which makes no sectioning of the document (v.g., no > chapters, section, subsections, etc.). Thereby, it seems that > besides using the hyperref package, as suggested by you, I must > write some specific code in order to create the marks for the left > window of Acrobat Reader. I recommend reading Heiko Oberdiek's paper on the subject, included in the hyperref documentation. eg in http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/hyperdoc.zip Sebastian 21-Mar-2000 9:38:05-GMT,2169;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA06132 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 02:38:04 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA04014 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 03:51:33 -0500 Received: from mail.SerNet.DE (exim@mail.SerNet.DE [193.159.217.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA04011 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 03:51:30 -0500 Received: from intern.SerNet.DE by mail.SerNet.DE with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) for pdftex@tug.org id 12XKNt-0004Tn-00; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:51:29 +0100 Received: by intern.SerNet.DE id 12XKNt-0006Qx-00; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:51:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:51:29 +0100 From: Kevin Ivory Organization: Service Network GmbH X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? References: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> <14546.40434.32613.816983@localhost.localdomain> <38D6353F.56F35E3@infor.uva.es> <14550.33412.446010.704412@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > I recommend reading Heiko Oberdiek's paper on the subject, included > in the hyperref documentation. eg in > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/hyperdoc.zip That is an invalid link. Can someone point to the correct link. Sebastian, it would be much easier if one could see the actual contents of the directory http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ Perhaps you could put all software in a subdirectory and let the web server show the directory contents? That way you could still keep the helpful introductory page. Kevin -- _ | Kevin Ivory | Tel: +49-551-37000041 |_ |\ | | Service Network GmbH | Fax: +49-551-3700009 ._|ER | \|ET | Bahnhofsallee 1b | mailto:Ivory@SerNet.de Service Network | D-37081 Goettingen | http://www.SerNet.de/ 21-Mar-2000 9:46:50-GMT,2257;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA06279 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 02:46:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA04110 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:24:33 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04107 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:24:30 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12XKto-00008k-00; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:24:28 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12XKto-0000ts-00; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:24:28 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14551.16222.947989.337871@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:22:38 +0000 (GMT) To: lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [Stephan Lehmke ] In-Reply-To: <200003210728.CAA03938@tug.org> References: <200003210728.CAA03938@tug.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > during the last 10 days, I sent 4 messages (concerning hyperref, > but I hope that's on-topic) to the pdftex list. > > I didn't get my own messages back (which I assume is the default > for this list), but I also didn't get any feedback whatsoever. > > I'm wondering whether my messages are posted at all or whether > I'm doing something wrong. I didn't get any bounces. my apologies. your messages did not appear, because you are not a valid member of the list (you need to subscribe). I had been assuming that the list processor bounced them back to you. just so that we all know: - the pdftex list can only be posted to by members (to avoid spam) - send subscribe pdftex to majordomo@tug.org to join up - I will not normally forward non-member submissions Sebastian 21-Mar-2000 10:17:40-GMT,2133;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06922 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 03:17:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA04142 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:38:50 -0500 Received: from pns.brandenburg.de (pns.brandenburg.de [194.76.232.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04139 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:38:48 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by pns.brandenburg.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA12939; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:33:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from www3.brandenburg.de(194.76.232.135) by pns.brandenburg.de via smap (V1.3) id sma012849; Tue Mar 21 10:32:40 2000 Received: by www3.brandenburg.de; id EAA17784; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from hp_www.ldspdm.ldsbb.lvnbb.de(10.128.9.41) by www3.brandenburg.de via smap (4.1) id xma017722; Tue, 21 Mar 00 10:37:20 +0100 Received: from pkvbb5.ldspdm.ldsbb.lvnbb.de (PKVBB5.LDSPDM.LDSBB.LVNBB.de [10.128.9.12]) by hp_www.ldspdm.ldsbb.lvnbb.de (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10206; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:37:14 +0100 (MET) Received: by PKVBB5.LDSPDM.LDSBB.LVNBB.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:37:12 +0100 Message-ID: <0F3313EC125AD311981100105AB3A75D07B592@N0795.mdf.fvbb.de> From: "Haseloff, Lutz" To: "'Ross Moore'" Cc: "'pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu'" Subject: RE: SubmitForm question Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:36:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Ross, > Is the web-server starting to send a header, even though the cgi-script > prints nothing to STDOUT ? No. I tried it with my cgi-scripts and it works here. I use the xitami web-server under Linux. The Local configuration is Win NT, Netscape Communicator 4.7 and Acrobat Reader 4.05 with Netscape Plugin. can you send me your cgi-script for testing? Lutz 21-Mar-2000 10:26:27-GMT,1795;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07065 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 03:26:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA04233 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:56:53 -0500 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04230 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:56:51 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id KAA27108 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:56:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA09399; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:08:22 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:08:22 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200003211008.LAA09399@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Opentype? X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Does pdftex support Opentype (otf)? Win 2000 comes with a bunch of WGL4 OTF fonts (ttf outlines), and the indesign demo with a Tekton Pro (interesting for the way adobe populated the private unicode area with typographer's glyphs like small caps & OsF & ff ligs -- Type 1 outlines) As long as we don't have a pdfomega, i suppose the right way to use them would be to reference them as reencoded partial pieces with usual encodings for greek, cyrillic, expert, etc. But, if pdftex doesn't support the format anyway... Th. 21-Mar-2000 12:32:20-GMT,2227;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09486 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:32:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA04815 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:48:16 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04812 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:48:09 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12XN8p-0007k9-00; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:48:07 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12XN8p-0006Zj-00; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:48:07 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14551.24842.129125.909546@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:46:18 +0000 (GMT) To: Ivory@SerNet.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? In-Reply-To: References: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> <14546.40434.32613.816983@localhost.localdomain> <38D6353F.56F35E3@infor.uva.es> <14550.33412.446010.704412@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Kevin Ivory writes: > Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > I recommend reading Heiko Oberdiek's paper on the subject, included > > in the hyperref documentation. eg in > > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/hyperdoc.zip http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperdoc.zip > Sebastian, it would be much easier if one could see the actual > contents of the directory http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ > Perhaps you could put all software in a subdirectory and let > the web server show the directory contents? That way you could > still keep the helpful introductory page. showing directories? that would be uncool! suppose we *want* to hide things? sebastian 21-Mar-2000 13:17:34-GMT,1643;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA10337 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:17:33 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA05438 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:54:57 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA05433 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:54:54 -0500 Received: from remote142-4.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.4] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12XOBO-0004Ar-00; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:54:52 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000321135351.330f7896@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:53:51 +0100 To: Kevin Ivory , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? In-Reply-To: References: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> <14546.40434.32613.816983@localhost.localdomain> <38D6353F.56F35E3@infor.uva.es> <14550.33412.446010.704412@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:51 21.03.2000 +0100, Kevin Ivory wrote: >> http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/hyperdoc.zip > >That is an invalid link. http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperdoc.zip Yours sincerely Heiko 21-Mar-2000 13:19:21-GMT,4900;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA10380 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:19:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA05431 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:54:00 -0500 Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05428 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:53:57 -0500 Received: from default (michigan37-89.infoserv.uakron.edu [130.101.2.89]) by uakron.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA15219; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:53:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003211253.HAA15219@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: Ross Moore , pdftex@tug.org Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:51:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: SubmitForm question Reply-to: story@uakron.edu In-reply-to: <200003201129.WAA23801@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ross; I have a demo file up and running on the web http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/demo/sample.pdf This demo takes the results from a short multiple choice quiz created by web/exerquiz and submits it to cgi script. The script saves the data to a text file on the server. The cgi uses Adobe's FDFToolkit and is written in C- --as opposed to perl. (I don't know much about perl, and haven't been abole to get the perl compoent of the FDF Toolkit to work for me, so I use the C, which is very easy.) On 20 Mar 00, at 22:29, Ross Moore wrote: > > Hi, > > This is a PDF question more than a pdfTeX one, but someone here > may have encountered this before; > the context is DP Story's exerquiz + extensions to provide > a web-delivery system and automatic recording of quiz results. > > Here's the problem I face. > > I want to submit a form to a cgi-script, but leave the browser > (with AcroRead plug-in) showing the same page. > How is this done ? My demo keeps the pdf file in place, and sends back a message, which is displayed in the textfield that the quiz results were receved and saved. Can send you the tex source of the pdf file and the C-source for the cgi if you want to look at it. > My cgi-script returns nothing; but the browser registers > "internal server error". > This advances the browser history, causing JavaScript information to > be lost on returning to the PDF via the "Back" button. Yes, once the PDF file leaves the browser, values of any JavaScript variables are lost. > Surprisingly, I can get the effect I want when the viewing platform > is a Macintosh, but not when Windows or Solaris -- all with AR-4.05 or > similar version. > > The action dictionary looks something like: > /A << > /S /SubmitForm /F << /FS /URL /F (\eq@returnaddress) >> > /Fields [(test) (testx)] /Flags 4 % HTML POST fields > >> The /Flags set to html post may cause the pdf file to be off-loaded. In my demo, I submit FDF data, and the toolkit parses the FDF data, and saves it to a comma delimited ascii file, I record name, ssn, score, date. > where \eq@returnaddress expands to a valid URL for the script. > Alternatively, the action can be written using JavaScript, > via submitForm(...). In either case the result is the same. > > > You can test it with > \def\eq@returnaddress{% > http://www.maths.mq.edu.au/cgi-bin/playground/record.pl} > > e.g. > http://www.maths.mq.edu.au/cgi-bin/playground/record.pl?test=foo&testx=bar > > > The web-server log indicates "Premature end of script headers". > So is the problem with > a. Acrobat Reader > b. the browser > c. the web-server > d. the cgi-script > e. what I want to do; is it impossible to do this ? > > Is the web-server starting to send a header, even though the cgi-script > prints nothing to STDOUT ? > Doesn't the browser expect "something" back? I vaguely remember encounting the same kind of problems Try emitting something like printf ("Content-type: application/vnd.fdf\n\n"); fflush (stdout); That, I think/hope, should solve your most immediate problem ("Prematue end...") > Can anyone help with this ? > > Ross Moore > > Let me know if I need to send you some source files. dps > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. 21-Mar-2000 17:27:21-GMT,2904;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17049 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:27:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06850 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:41:24 -0500 Received: from gwdu42.gwdg.de (root@gwdu42.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06847 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:41:22 -0500 Received: from gwdu20.gwdg.de ([134.76.98.2] ident=dweiss1) by gwdu42.gwdg.de with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12XRib-0001R8-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:41:21 +0100 Received: from localhost by gwdu20.gwdg.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/11Feb98-0154PM) id AA04675; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:41:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:41:14 +0100 (MET) From: Daniel Weiss To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: hyperref + pdflatex -> hyperlinks off by several pages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I am using pdflatex 14d as part of MikTeX distribution 1.20e. When I use pdflatex together with the hyperref package to create a PDF file, the index and the bibliography of my book-style latex file get wrong links in the PDF bookmarks. The entries for index and bibliography point to the last page of text _before_ the index and bibliography. I read the hyperref documentation mentioned in a recent thread, and it mentions the problem for chapter*{} type sections, but I couldn't find how to avoid it. Secondly, the backreferencing hyperlinks in the index and in the bibliography (only for pages, not for sections) are off by several pages. I noticed that the number of roman-numbered pages at the front of the book (title page, table of contents etc.) is equal to the number of pages that the hyperlinks from bib and index are off. Package usage is: \usepackage[pdftex, colorlinks, bookmarks, bookmarksopen, bookmarksnumbered, backref]{hyperref} Thanks for any suggestions, Daniel Daniel Weiss tel: +49 551 399431 Institute for X-Ray Physics (IRP) fax: +49 551 399430 University Georgia Augusta at Goettingen email: Daniel.Weiss@ Geiststrasse 11, 37073 Goettingen, Germany phys.uni-goettingen.de PGP public key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x3D3E57B9&fingerprint=on (fingerprint: F0 4C B3 27 0E 36 08 C0 54 A7 73 DD ED 52 B0 9B) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBONemL/SzBDo9Ple5AQHv2wP/YZbdktQOVnttslG5mff7QmK827Vr0RnA 3fpyi/F56W5TuaSHpODMZ/id01ghXLVgprdPxxTjuJrRUpNpTgUO3ZF/zdIDNEBN uyOBxPaEnIxAP4R9PhlnI4jrcE90voLfxZ1L0rfS6KbMttcoUOezomSJCNDE88Gv EsQ+Te9mMOM= =AhZ4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 22-Mar-2000 7:21:48-GMT,3125;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA09300 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:21:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA08743 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 02:02:47 -0500 Received: from mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (root@mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA08740 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 02:02:40 -0500 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA22346; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:02:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA16748; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:02:25 +0100 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id IAA05370; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:02:23 +0100 (MET) From: Klaus Guntermann MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14552.28671.419667.410851@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:02:23 +0100 (MET) To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: hernando@infor.uva.es Subject: Re: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? In-Reply-To: <14550.33412.446010.704412@localhost.localdomain> References: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> <14546.40434.32613.816983@localhost.localdomain> <38D6353F.56F35E3@infor.uva.es> <14550.33412.446010.704412@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz writes: > Hernando Silva Varela writes: > > Thanks for your help. What I really want to generate is a table of > > contents (rather than an index); however, I am using the foiltex > > class package, which makes no sectioning of the document (v.g., no > > chapters, section, subsections, etc.). Thereby, it seems that > > besides using the hyperref package, as suggested by you, I must > > write some specific code in order to create the marks for the left > > window of Acrobat Reader. > > I recommend reading Heiko Oberdiek's paper on the subject, included > in the hyperref documentation. But when used with foiltex one will have to specify in some place the nesting depth for the bookmark entries. Otherwise you will get only one level, even if you follow the good instructions from Heiko's paper (at least that was what I got last month). It may be the "LaTeXnically incorrect" ;-) way, but for me adding \def\c@tocdepth{2} in a style file helped a lot. Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt 22-Mar-2000 9:36:58-GMT,1889;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11935 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 02:36:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09134 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:09:13 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA09130 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:09:10 -0500 Received: from remote142-162.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.162] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12Xh8V-0000wr-00; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:09:08 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000322100641.09afa28e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:06:41 +0100 To: Stephan Lehmke , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: xr-hyper.sty Cc: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <200003210723.IAA14371@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:23 21.03.2000 +0100, Stephan Lehmke wrote: > >when trying to make external hyper labels with xr-hyper.sty from the >hyperref 6.69 bundle, I find that protected things (like colors) >break in the `nameref' part of \newlabel commands (when executing >\XR@addURL). > >Changing \xdef to \protected@xdef in > >\long\def\XR@test#1#2#3#4\XR@{% > \ifx#1\newlabel > \expandafter\xdef\csname r@\XR@prefix#2\endcsname >[...] Thanks for the bug report, I have changed this in version 6.69f: http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip Yours sincerely Heiko 22-Mar-2000 10:27:11-GMT,2680;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12906 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 03:27:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09388 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:50:04 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA09385 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:50:02 -0500 Received: from remote142-177.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.177] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12Xhm4-0001w1-00; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:50:00 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000322101706.088f90ae@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:17:06 +0100 To: Daniel Weiss , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref + pdflatex -> hyperlinks off by several pages In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 17:41 21.03.2000 +0100, Daniel Weiss wrote: > >I am using pdflatex 14d as part of MikTeX distribution 1.20e. When I use >pdflatex together with the hyperref package to create a PDF file, the >index and the bibliography of my book-style latex file get wrong links in >the PDF bookmarks. The entries for index and bibliography point to the >last page of text _before_ the index and bibliography. \addcontentsline sets the bookmarks entry, if it goes before \section, the destination of \section is unknown for \addcontentsline and it uses the last one before. Workaround with dummy counter: \newcounter{dummy} ... \clearpage \refstepcounter{dummy} \printindex >Secondly, the backreferencing hyperlinks in the index and in the >bibliography (only for pages, not for sections) are off by several >pages. I noticed that the number of roman-numbered pages at the >front of the book (title page, table of contents etc.) is equal to the >number of pages that the hyperlinks from bib and index are off. Yes, this problem is known: It arises, because the different kinds of page numbers are not distinguished: * absolute page number * formatted page number: \thepage * value of \count0 Currently the only workaround for pagebackref is to avoid the initial roman page numbers. Count the pages starting with 1 and do not reset the page number :-( Yours sincerely Heiko 22-Mar-2000 12:46:26-GMT,2174;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA15541 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:46:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA10166 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:04:44 -0500 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10162 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:04:38 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id NAA22467 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:04:14 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id NAA19028; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:15:55 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:15:55 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200003221215.NAA19028@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: hyperref + pdflatex -> hyperlinks off by several pages In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000322101706.088f90ae@localhost> References: <3.0.1.16.20000322101706.088f90ae@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » Currently the only workaround for pagebackref is to avoid the » initial roman page numbers. Count the pages starting with 1 and » do not reset the page number :-( Don't know if it's the same, but i had to hack something to have hyperpage pointing to the right page. I assumed that, when nohypertexnames is choosed, there should be a way to have each page anchor set with a linearized counter (Hpage, starting from 1). But then \index should be able to emit a \hyperpage{page.\theHpage}{\thepage}. With current version, I obtained what i wanted by editing the def of \@hyperfixhead and modified \Hy@TempPageAnchor to suit my needs. Thierry 22-Mar-2000 16:11:39-GMT,2609;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20620 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:11:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10967 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:23:43 -0500 Received: from ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (IDENT:root@ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.190]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10955 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:23:23 -0500 Received: from infor.uva.es (diogenes.dcs.fi.uva.es [157.88.124.56]) by ns1.dcs.fi.uva.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13915; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:22:57 +0100 Message-ID: <38D8E69D.42802F48@infor.uva.es> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:28:29 +0100 From: Hernando Silva Varela Organization: Universidad de Valladolid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Klaus Guntermann CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? References: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> <14546.40434.32613.816983@localhost.localdomain> <38D6353F.56F35E3@infor.uva.es> <14550.33412.446010.704412@localhost.localdomain> <14552.28671.419667.410851@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id KAA10961 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Klaus Guntermann wrote: > But when used with foiltex one will have to specify in some place > the nesting depth for the bookmark entries. Otherwise you will get > only one level, even if you follow the good instructions from Heiko's > paper (at least that was what I got last month). > It may be the "LaTeXnically incorrect" ;-) way, but for me adding > \def\c@tocdepth{2} > in a style file helped a lot. Thank you, it also worked for me (when I include it in the foils.cls file). Now, even more difficult: I would like to include the page number in the marks (since I can not include numbers for section, subsection, etc.); pdflatex don't like \quad\textsf{\thepage} as part of the code for the marks. Any suggestion ? Hernando P.S. Even for presentations, I would like to be able to manage sectioning commands; perhaps foiltex was not the right solution. __________________________________ Hernando Silva Varela Departamento de Informática (ETIT) Universidad de Valladolid C\ Camino del Cementerio S/N 47011 Valladolid, España (Spain) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 22-Mar-2000 20:27:37-GMT,1805;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28316 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:27:35 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13725 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:02:59 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13722 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:02:57 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12XrLD-0002OW-00; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:02:55 +0000 Received: from max32.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.32] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12XrLC-0003tq-00; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:02:55 +0000 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14553.9756.925623.466020@localhost.localdomain> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:59:24 +0000 (GMT) To: pdftex@tug.org cc: Mark.Woodard@furman.edu Subject: Re: Strange happenings with pdfscreen and exerquiz In-Reply-To: <000401bf9434$bfb8c1f0$22878f9c@woodardmark.furman.edu> References: <000401bf9434$bfb8c1f0$22878f9c@woodardmark.furman.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Mark Woodard writes: > To anyone interested: > > > When I pdflatex the attached file, I get a strange error on the 5th or so > page. It is unfriendly to send 233kbyte mail messages. have pity on those of us paying for our connections... Sebastian Rahtz (pdftex list owner) 22-Mar-2000 20:52:03-GMT,2049;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29047 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:52:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13605 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:54:55 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13602 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:54:48 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12XrDH-0007MY-00; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:54:43 +0000 Received: from max32.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.32] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12XrDG-0000Nj-00; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:54:43 +0000 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14553.8930.836187.714408@localhost.localdomain> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:45:38 +0000 (GMT) To: hernando@infor.uva.es Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How can I create an index of marks for Acrobat Reader ? In-Reply-To: <38D8E69D.42802F48@infor.uva.es> References: <38D27AAE.D2ED7DA7@infor.uva.es> <14546.40434.32613.816983@localhost.localdomain> <38D6353F.56F35E3@infor.uva.es> <14550.33412.446010.704412@localhost.localdomain> <14552.28671.419667.410851@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> <38D8E69D.42802F48@infor.uva.es> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hernando Silva Varela writes: > P.S. Even for presentations, I would like to be able to manage sectioning > commands; > perhaps foiltex was not the right solution. I, and others, have been increasingly happy with C V Radhakrishnan's "pdfscreen" package, which uses normal LaTeX files (sectioning etc). Give it a try sebastian 22-Mar-2000 21:53:12-GMT,1558;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00934 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:53:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA14314 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:10:34 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA14311 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:10:32 -0500 Received: from remote142-139.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.139] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12XsOR-0001f1-00; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:10:20 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000322211602.0c8fc53c@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:16:02 +0100 To: "Beuthe, Thomas" From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref + pdflatex -> hyperlinks off by several pages Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:43 22.03.2000 -0500, Beuthe, Thomas wrote: >You might want to have a look at what \phantomsection can do for you... Yes, you are right, this is even simpler than the dummy counter, e.g.: \clearpage \phantomsection \printindex Yours sincerely Heiko 23-Mar-2000 0:28:15-GMT,4291;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05640 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:28:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16452 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:55:34 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA16449 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:55:32 -0500 Received: from remote142-162.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.162] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12XuyG-0003oI-00; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:55:28 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000323005249.22ef8b84@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:52:49 +0100 To: Stephan Lehmke , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: pdfpageduration (was: Re: Three questions concerning hyperref 6.56) Cc: Sebastian Rahtz In-Reply-To: <200003131049.LAA14819@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:49 13.03.2000 +0100, Stephan Lehmke wrote: >3) The Dur key. >--------------- > >I have defined a command for setting the Dur key (by copying the >code for page transitions): > >\newcommand{\pageDuration}[1]{\pdfmark{pdfmark=/PUT,Raw={{ThisPage} << /Dur #1 >>>}}}% > >This seems to work ok. > >But (as I don't really know how to do it right) there are two questions: > >* If the page _transition_ has been set, I can `reset' it by setting > the page transition to Replace on the same page. > But there seems to be no `neutral' value for the number of seconds > in the Dur key. > Currently, I'm using -1, which seems to work for acroread, but as > it isn't documented, it might fail with other viewers. > How can I `reset' the page duration properly? Neither in the pdf specification nor in the pdfmarks description I found a possibility to remove key value pairs with pdfmarks. >* Obviously, the definition above works only with drivers using > pdfmarks. > Is it possible (short of adding all the driver options to my > [otherwise driver-independent] package) to define this command > in a more `driver-sensitive' way? Try out the test version 6.70a: http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip I have introduced two options: `pdfpageduration': the argument is the value in seconds for the /Dur key, or empty, if there should not be a /Dur key. Caution: If the last page contains a /Dur key, at least AR4 for Linux produces a beep, because there is no page after the last one. If pdfpageduration is used, the last page should contain \hypersetup{pdfpageduration={}}. `pdfpagehidden': true/false sets the /Hid key to true/false. In the pdftex case the /Hid key is only written, if it is true for the page. With pdfmark drivers the /Hid key appears in all pages, after its first use. Problem: Does a pdf viewer exist, that do not ignore the /Hid key? AR3 (Linux/Win3) and AR4 (Linux) ignore it in FullScreen mode. A short test file: \documentclass{article} \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} \else \usepackage{hyperref} \pdfcompresslevel=0 \fi \usepackage{times} \pagestyle{headings} \begin{document}\Huge \hypersetup{pdfpageduration=2} [A] Dur: 2 seconds \clearpage [B] Dur: 2 seconds \clearpage \hypersetup{pdfpageduration=4} [C] Dur: 4 seconds \clearpage [D] Dur: 4 seconds, Hid: true \hypersetup{pdfpagehidden} \clearpage \hypersetup{pdfpagehidden=false} \hypersetup{pdfpageduration={}} [E] No dur key. \clearpage \hypersetup{pdfpagehidden} [F] No dur key, Hid: true \clearpage \hypersetup{pdfpagehidden=false} \hypersetup{pdfpageduration=1.5} [G] Dur: 1.5 seconds \clearpage LAST PAGE (Dur: 1.5 seconds) % \hypersetup{pdfpageduration={}} \end{document} Yours sincerely Heiko 23-Mar-2000 12:14:49-GMT,2770;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20401 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 05:14:48 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA19605 for pdftex-list; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:40:28 -0500 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (bogo@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA19602 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:40:24 -0500 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04741 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:40:19 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA10408 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:40:18 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200003231140.WAA10408@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Annoying messages with hyperlinks To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:40:18 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi. Using the latest pdf-TeX: % pdflatex --version pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14e-released-20000217 The following code results in unwanted log-messages: \hbox{\pdfannotlink attr {/C [0.9 0 0] /Border [0 0 1]} goto file {(Questions.pdf)} name {Q#1#2}(Q)\pdfendlink \qquad\quad}}% where #1 and #2 are just simple strings. The messages are of the form: ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{QM4} has been referenced but does not exist, repl aced by a fixed one It is true that the name (e.g. QM4) does not exist in the file being built, but it does exist in the target file (e.g. Questions.pdf). In the .pdf file the link works correctly, despite what the log-message says, so this is just an annoyance rather than a fatal bug. As for the PDF coding, it looks like: % grep QM4 Answers.pdf /A << /F (Questions.pdf) /S /GoToR /D (QM4) >> ^^^^^----- this is correct /Names [(AA1) 53 0 R (AA1.2) 13 0 R (AA2) 70 0 R (AA2.2) 17 0 R (AA3) 79 0 R (AA3.2) 21 0 R ( ... ... em.9) 81 0 R (QA1) 83 0 R (QA2) 84 0 R (QA3) 85 0 R (QM4) 116 0 R (QM5) 117 0 R (QM6) 131 0 R this is unnecessary -------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ... Clearly there is a redundant entry in the /Names array. You can get the file in question from: http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/MATHS/MATH130/A1-2K/Answers.pdf Similarly its companion exhibits the same problem when being built: http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/MATHS/MATH130/A1-2K/Questions.pdf Cheers, Ross Moore 23-Mar-2000 14:20:00-GMT,2599;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22960 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:19:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA19964 for pdftex-list; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:16:48 -0500 Received: from gwdu42.gwdg.de (root@gwdu42.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19961 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:16:45 -0500 Received: from gwdu20.gwdg.de ([134.76.98.2] ident=dweiss1) by gwdu42.gwdg.de with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12Y7Tf-0008Qg-00; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:16:44 +0100 Received: from localhost by gwdu20.gwdg.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/11Feb98-0154PM) id AA24103; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:16:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:16:34 +0100 (MET) From: Daniel Weiss To: Heiko Oberdiek Cc: "Beuthe, Thomas" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: hyperref + pdflatex -> hyperlinks off by several pages In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000322211602.0c8fc53c@localhost> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > At 10:43 22.03.2000 -0500, Beuthe, Thomas wrote: > >You might want to have a look at what \phantomsection can do for you... > > Yes, you are right, this is even simpler than the dummy counter, e.g.: > > \clearpage > \phantomsection > \printindex Thanks for the tip, it worked for me as: \ifpdf \phantomsection \fi \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{\numberline{}Index} \printindex I have to use the \ifpdf because I want to run the file through latex as well, and latex doesn't seem to know \phantomsection... Daniel Weiss tel: +49 551 399431 Institute for X-Ray Physics (IRP) fax: +49 551 399430 University Georgia Augusta at Goettingen email: Daniel.Weiss@ Geiststrasse 11, 37073 Goettingen, Germany phys.uni-goettingen.de PGP public key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x3D3E57B9&fingerprint=on (fingerprint: F0 4C B3 27 0E 36 08 C0 54 A7 73 DD ED 52 B0 9B) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBONoZNvSzBDo9Ple5AQHokAP+KFJcgmTl4bVaJ4ZIppXeVGOIZ2hU3AWH 66Qm5iceRfSs+05XjLcM99u7bdMPmVgF+tMoi7nMOmRjDkUjw7EqQ7kgnVxRexA5 p5yceVadyIytsrNp68AkmtPk2qUrUBFJ1TkoePRBWXaWKwL+UOtw/M0tD/HSWRs6 wRViwgcp98c= =UrPR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 23-Mar-2000 15:17:37-GMT,1734;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24433 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:17:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20349 for pdftex-list; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:25:54 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA20346 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:25:52 -0500 Received: from remote142-156.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.156] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12Y8Y9-0007Ov-00; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:25:26 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000323150812.3e2768f0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:08:12 +0100 To: Daniel Weiss From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref + pdflatex -> hyperlinks off by several pages Cc: "Beuthe, Thomas" , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.16.20000322211602.0c8fc53c@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 14:16 23.03.2000 +0100, Daniel Weiss wrote: >\ifpdf >\phantomsection >\fi >\addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{\numberline{}Index} >\printindex > >I have to use the \ifpdf because I want to run the file through latex as >well, and latex doesn't seem to know \phantomsection... \providecommand{\phantomsection}{} Yours sincerely Heiko 23-Mar-2000 15:17:51-GMT,1862;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24463 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:17:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20461 for pdftex-list; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:33:24 -0500 Received: from eo-sun-us2a.ku-eichstaett.de (eo-sun-us2a.ku-eichstaett.de [141.78.3.249]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20458 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:33:23 -0500 Received: from ku-eichstaett.de (eo-106-1.ku-eichstaett.de [141.78.0.7]) by eo-sun-us2a.ku-eichstaett.de (8.9.3+Sun/18.12.99) with ESMTP id PAA11491 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:32:57 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38DA2B30.C6B9508@ku-eichstaett.de> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:33:20 +0100 From: Peter Zimmermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Printing problem with Acrobat 4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi to all When printing a pdf file from pdflatex to a HP LaserJet 4000 (or HP LaserJet IV) printer via Acrobat Reader (4.05) the document is shrunken to about 93% of its original extension (original extension 199mm x 131mm --> Acrobat 186mm x 122mm). Printing the same document with Ghostscript/Ghostview (6.01/2.9) is ok. Unfortunately the printing works, which will publish the document for our user, uses Adobes Acrobat Reader. Is there any way to get the document with proper size out of Acrobat Reader (or is this "a well known problem with Acrobat 4.0 and HP printer drivers")? Will the output work with a non HP printer? Regards, Peter Zimmermann mail: peter.zimmermann@ku-eichstaett.de 23-Mar-2000 17:05:00-GMT,1761;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27664 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:04:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21328 for pdftex-list; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:23:22 -0500 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21324 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:23:19 -0500 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02300; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:21:26 GMT Message-ID: <38DA4486.51DDCCD9@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:21:26 +0000 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Zimmermann CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Printing problem with Acrobat 4 References: <38DA2B30.C6B9508@ku-eichstaett.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Peter Zimmermann wrote: > > Hi to all > > When printing a pdf file from pdflatex to a HP LaserJet 4000 (or HP > LaserJet IV) printer via Acrobat Reader (4.05) the document is shrunken > to about 93% of its original extension Hmm. They did turn off "Fit to page size", didn't they? After all, they run sorta printing works, as you say. What else? Hard to say.... Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 23-Mar-2000 17:59:24-GMT,1724;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29194 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:59:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22096 for pdftex-list; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:15:18 -0500 Received: from samba.intra.jablotron.cz (gw.jablotron.cz [194.228.41.250]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22093 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:15:14 -0500 Received: from osoba (osoba.intra.jablotron.cz [192.168.250.38]) by samba.intra.jablotron.cz with SMTP id SAA14054 (8.7.6/IDA-1.6 for ); Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:17:31 +0100 Message-ID: <004001bf94eb$53e97f20$26faa8c0@intra.jablotron.cz> From: "Jiri Osoba" To: References: <38DA2B30.C6B9508@ku-eichstaett.de> Subject: Re: Printing problem with Acrobat 4 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:15:03 +0100 Organization: Jablotron Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Peter Zimmermann > When printing a pdf file from pdflatex to a HP LaserJet 4000 (or HP > LaserJet IV) printer via Acrobat Reader (4.05) the document is shrunken > to about 93% of its original extension (original extension 199mm x 131mm > --> Acrobat 186mm x 122mm). Printing the same document with > Ghostscript/Ghostview (6.01/2.9) is ok. Didn't you enable "Fit to page" checkbox? Jiri. 24-Mar-2000 10:06:10-GMT,2231;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA22486 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 03:06:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27479 for pdftex-list; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:16:33 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27476 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:16:30 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23514; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:16:26 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03512; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:16:24 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200003240916.KAA03512@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Annoying messages with hyperlinks In-Reply-To: <200003231140.WAA10408@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> from Ross Moore at "Mar 23, 0 10:40:18 pm" To: ross@ics.mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:16:23 +0100 (MET) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Using the latest pdf-TeX: > > % pdflatex --version > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14e-released-20000217 > > The following code results in unwanted log-messages: > > \hbox{\pdfannotlink attr {/C [0.9 0 0] /Border [0 0 1]} > goto file {(Questions.pdf)} name {Q#1#2}(Q)\pdfendlink \qquad\quad}}% > > where #1 and #2 are just simple strings. > > The messages are of the form: > > ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{QM4} has been referenced but does not exist, repl > aced by a fixed one > > > It is true that the name (e.g. QM4) does not exist in the file being built, > but it does exist in the target file (e.g. Questions.pdf). > > In the .pdf file the link works correctly, despite what the log-message says, > so this is just an annoyance rather than a fatal bug. it looks like a bug forgetting to check for external links. Will be fixed in next release. Thanh 28-Mar-2000 16:30:30-GMT,1719;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10474 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:30:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06228 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:30:01 -0500 Received: from frank.Physics.DCU.IE (frank.Physics.DCU.IE [136.206.20.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06223 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:29:59 -0500 Received: from alice.Physics.DCU.IE (alice.Physics.DCU.IE [136.206.20.2]) by frank.Physics.DCU.IE (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA11181 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:29:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from physics.dcu.ie (lubos@polero.Physics.DCU.IE [136.206.20.75]) by alice.Physics.DCU.IE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22078 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:12:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <38E0CF06.C5F7A9FC@physics.dcu.ie> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:25:58 +0100 From: Lubos Polerecky Organization: Dublin City University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX Subject: greater than a4paper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, is it possible to use papersize greater than a4? If I use \documentclass[a4paper]{article} the paper size is a4. If I use \documentclass[a3paper]{article} or a2paper, etc., the resulting pdf file (produced by pdflatex) seems to change the size when viewed by acroread but during the compilation, I get "unused global option a3paper" message. Lubos 28-Mar-2000 16:40:58-GMT,1528;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10849 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:40:52 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06196 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:19:52 -0500 Received: from frank.Physics.DCU.IE (frank.Physics.DCU.IE [136.206.20.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06193 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:19:37 -0500 Received: from alice.Physics.DCU.IE (alice.Physics.DCU.IE [136.206.20.2]) by frank.Physics.DCU.IE (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA11152 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:19:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from physics.dcu.ie (lubos@polero.Physics.DCU.IE [136.206.20.75]) by alice.Physics.DCU.IE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21967 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:02:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <38E0CC8B.C6E0C377@physics.dcu.ie> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:15:23 +0100 From: Lubos Polerecky Organization: Dublin City University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX Subject: picture as a background Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, is it possible to specify a background of the document being some graphics? (I would like to have some special bacground for my poster.) Thank you. Lubos 28-Mar-2000 18:40:03-GMT,1800;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14456 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:40:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06650 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:51:34 -0500 Received: from mail.prz.tu-berlin.de (mail.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.232.72]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06647 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:51:31 -0500 Received: from micky.prz.tu-berlin.de (micky.prz.tu-berlin.de [130.149.62.26]) by mail.prz.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13785; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:48:31 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:49:58 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Eyrich To: Lubos Polerecky cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: greater than a4paper In-Reply-To: <38E0CF06.C5F7A9FC@physics.dcu.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Lubos Polerecky wrote: > If I use \documentclass[a3paper]{article} or a2paper, etc., the > resulting pdf file (produced by pdflatex) seems to change the size > when viewed by acroread but during the compilation, I get > "unused global option a3paper" message. Because it's undefined :-) The class file defines options, e.g., \DeclareOption{a4paper} {\setlength\paperheight {297mm}% \setlength\paperwidth {210mm}} It doesn't know about a3 which means you have to pass that option to the class. Or just make a copy of the class file, give it a new name, and insert the appropriate declaration. Regards, Christoph Eyrich 29-Mar-2000 4:39:55-GMT,1635;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29992 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:39:54 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA08365 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:52:19 -0500 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.76]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08362 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:52:06 -0500 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA05328; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:23:43 +0530 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:18:35 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Lubos Polerecky cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: picture as a background Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Lubos Polerecky wrote: LP> is it possible to specify a background of the document LP> being some graphics? LP> (I would like to have some special bacground for my poster.) Use the package pdfslide.sty (available at CTAN) to make the poster. \overlay{} command will help you to have background of your choice. You can have different backgrounds for different pages. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 29-Mar-2000 8:20:02-GMT,1968;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04895 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:20:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA09099 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 02:43:43 -0500 Received: from cartero.unavarra.es (cartero.unavarra.es [130.206.166.80]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09096 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 02:43:33 -0500 Received: from si.unavarra.es (si.unavarra.es [130.206.166.108]) by cartero.unavarra.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06600; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:43:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [130.206.163.74] (s163m74.unavarra.es [130.206.163.74]) by si.unavarra.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA11710; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:43:13 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jpuertolas@si.unavarra.es Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38E0CF06.C5F7A9FC@physics.dcu.ie> References: <38E0CF06.C5F7A9FC@physics.dcu.ie> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:41:48 +0200 To: Lubos Polerecky From: Javier Puertolas Subject: Re: greater than a4paper Cc: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >Hi, > >is it possible to use papersize greater than a4? > You can use the a0poster package. It provides you sizes of paper from A0 to A3, and greater font sizes for posters. You can download it from http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/a0poster/ (or your preferred CTAN server) I have tried it with LaTeX only, not with pdftex. Javier -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Javier Puertolas Sagardoy Dpto. de Economia Universidad Publica de Navarra Campus de Arrosadia 31006 Pamplona Tfno 948 169 355 Fax 948 169 721 e-mail jpuertolas@unavarra.es 29-Mar-2000 10:59:03-GMT,2395;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07775 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 03:59:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA09553 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 05:18:24 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09550 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 05:18:22 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29144 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:17:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11259 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:17:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200003291017.MAA11259@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: FYI: [fm.announce] METAGRAF 1.0.0-alfa - A graphical editor for MetaPost. (fwd) To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:17:49 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ----- Forwarded message from Pavel Janik ml. ----- -- Start of included mail From: freshd@freshmeat.net Subject: METAGRAF 1.0.0-alfa - A graphical editor for MetaPost. Date: 29 Mar 2000 03:28:09 GMT Organization: freshmeat.net application: METAGRAF 1.0.0-alfa author: Santiago Muelas license: GPL category: X11/Graphics homepage: http://apps.freshmeat.net/homepage/954252956/ download: http://apps.freshmeat.net/download/954252956/ description: METAGRAF is a graphical editor for creating figures in MetaPost. It is currently able to draw many kinds of figures in black & white or color. METAGRAF outputs a MetaPost file which can then be run through MetaPost by itself or using TeX. The program is writen in Java and is thus platform-independent. The User's Manual is currently only available in Spanish, but there will soon be an English version. Changes: Initial release. |> http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/03/28/954300480.html -- End of included mail. ----- End of forwarded message from Pavel Janik ml. ----- 29-Mar-2000 16:31:09-GMT,1872;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15551 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:31:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10190 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:24:14 -0500 Received: from mail.geo.ucalgary.ca (IDENT:root@mail.geo.ucalgary.ca [136.159.91.23]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10187 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:24:11 -0500 Received: from margrave (Margrave.geo.ucalgary.ca [136.159.91.140]) by mail.geo.ucalgary.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA30231 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:30:19 -0700 From: "Gary Margrave" To: Subject: tif files in pdfTex Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:24:53 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've read Han Thanh's user manual and the FAQ and I still cannot get pdfLatex to accept a .tif graphic. I get the message ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .tif. here is my entire source code \documentclass{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png,.tif} \resizebox{3in}{3in}{\includegraphics{marm.tif}} \end{document} A .png file seems to work. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Is there a more detailed guide to including graphics with pdfLatex? Gary Margrave Dept. of Geology and Geophysics The University of Calgary Alberta, Canada 29-Mar-2000 16:39:15-GMT,1833;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15828 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:39:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10317 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:51:18 -0500 Received: from notesmail.cs.odu.edu (notesmail.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.165]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10314 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:51:16 -0500 From: szeil@notesmail.cs.odu.edu Reply-To: zeil@cs.odu.edu Subject: Re: picture as a background To: pdfTeX Cc: Lubos Polerecky X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0 March 30, 1999 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:50:42 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on postit/ODUCS(Release 5.0.2b |December 16, 1999) at 03/29/2000 10:50:45 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 03/28/2000 10:15:23 AM, Lubos Polerecky wrote: >Hi, > >is it possible to specify a background of the document >being some graphics? >(I would like to have some special bacground for my poster.) > Look at the package eso-pic on CTAN. It adds a LaTeX picture environment on every page, which can over(under?)lay the actual page contents. I use the following commands: \usepackage{eso-pic} \newsavebox{\bggradient} \sbox{\bggradient}{\includegraphics[height=\pdfpageheight,width =\pdfpagewidth]{gradient1}} \AddToShipoutPicture{ \put(0,0){\makebox(0,0)[bl]{\usebox{\bggradient}}} } to import a graphic (gradient1.pdf), resize it to the size of the page, save the result in a box (\bggradient), and then have that box added to every page. SJZ 29-Mar-2000 21:09:32-GMT,1906;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23731 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:09:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA11173 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:24:48 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11170 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:24:46 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12aP0c-000431-00; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:24:10 +0100 Received: from max78.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.78] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12aP0c-0001rr-00; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:24:10 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14562.21098.339038.811406@localhost.localdomain> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:58:50 +0100 (BST) To: gary@geo.ucalgary.ca Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: tif files in pdfTex In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Gary Margrave writes: > I've read Han Thanh's user manual and the FAQ and I still cannot get > pdfLatex to accept a .tif graphic. I get the message > > ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .tif. > > here is my entire source code > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} almost certainly because you dont have a current pdftex.def. you need version 0.02r, what do you have? sebastian 29-Mar-2000 22:49:48-GMT,2405;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26594 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:49:47 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11459 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:17:53 -0500 Received: from mail.geo.ucalgary.ca (IDENT:root@mail.geo.ucalgary.ca [136.159.91.23]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11456 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:17:51 -0500 Received: from margrave (Margrave.geo.ucalgary.ca [136.159.91.140]) by mail.geo.ucalgary.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07454; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:23:53 -0700 From: "Gary Margrave" To: "Sebastian Rahtz" Cc: Subject: RE: tif files in pdfTex Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:18:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <14562.21098.339038.811406@localhost.localdomain> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello Sebastian, Thanks for the reply. Here is the first line of my pdftex.def file \ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[1999/01/26 v0.02l graphics/color for pdftex] I obtained this in a recent download of fptex from CTAN. Can you send me a current version or tell me where to get it? Does this mean that my pdfTex executable is also likely out of date? Gary > -----Original Message----- > From: Sebastian Rahtz > [mailto:sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk] > Sent: March 29, 2000 11:59 AM > To: gary@geo.ucalgary.ca > Cc: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: Re: tif files in pdfTex > > > Gary Margrave writes: > > I've read Han Thanh's user manual and the FAQ and I still cannot get > > pdfLatex to accept a .tif graphic. I get the message > > > > ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .tif. > > > > here is my entire source code > > > > \documentclass{article} > > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > > almost certainly because you dont have a current pdftex.def. you need > version 0.02r, what do you have? > > sebastian > > 29-Mar-2000 23:17:00-GMT,1322;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27367 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:16:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11692 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:56:45 -0500 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11689 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:56:43 -0500 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27682; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:56:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:56:34 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: Gary Margrave cc: pdftex list Subject: Re: tif files in pdfTex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def > > I obtained this in a recent download of fptex from CTAN. Can you send me a > current version or tell me where to get it? Does this mean that my pdfTex > executable is also likely out of date? > 30-Mar-2000 10:54:37-GMT,3132;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12977 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 03:54:36 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA13176 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:26:18 -0500 Received: from mail-server-5.star.net.uk (mail-server-5.star.net.uk [195.216.16.175]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA13173 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:26:15 -0500 From: david.waller@westsig.co.uk X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13673 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2000 10:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netstar.invensys.com) (212.125.65.20) by mail-server-5.star.net.uk with SMTP; 30 Mar 2000 10:26:01 -0000 Received: by netstar.invensys.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 802568B2.002C6F0D ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:05:20 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: BTR To: lup@Physics.DCU.IE cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <802568B2.002C6886.00@netstar.invensys.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:55:29 +0100 Subject: Re: greater than a4paper Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Lubos, I have used the package geometry (from CTAN if not alreadfy available on your machine). This allows you to set the paper to any size, as well as adjsut the margins, header space, shift for double sided paper etc. I have used this package with pdflatex with success. Dave Waller Lubos Polerecky on 28/03/2000 15:25:58 To: pdfTeX cc: (bcc: David Waller/Birmingham/GB/Westinghouse-Signal/BTR) Subject: greater than a4paper Hi, is it possible to use papersize greater than a4? If I use \documentclass[a4paper]{article} the paper size is a4. If I use \documentclass[a3paper]{article} or a2paper, etc., the resulting pdf file (produced by pdflatex) seems to change the size when viewed by acroread but during the compilation, I get "unused global option a3paper" message. Lubos ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp 30-Mar-2000 12:07:31-GMT,3132;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14314 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:07:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA13321 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:38:08 -0500 Received: from mail-server-5.star.net.uk (mail-server-5.star.net.uk [195.216.16.175]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA13318 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:38:07 -0500 From: david.waller@westsig.co.uk X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 14254 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2000 11:29:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netstar.invensys.com) (212.125.65.20) by mail-server-5.star.net.uk with SMTP; 30 Mar 2000 11:29:12 -0000 Received: by netstar.invensys.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 802568B2.00324720 ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:09:10 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: BTR To: lup@Physics.DCU.IE cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <802568B2.0031F9BC.00@netstar.invensys.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:55:29 +0100 Subject: Re: greater than a4paper Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Lubos, I have used the package geometry (from CTAN if not alreadfy available on your machine). This allows you to set the paper to any size, as well as adjsut the margins, header space, shift for double sided paper etc. I have used this package with pdflatex with success. Dave Waller Lubos Polerecky on 28/03/2000 15:25:58 To: pdfTeX cc: (bcc: David Waller/Birmingham/GB/Westinghouse-Signal/BTR) Subject: greater than a4paper Hi, is it possible to use papersize greater than a4? If I use \documentclass[a4paper]{article} the paper size is a4. If I use \documentclass[a3paper]{article} or a2paper, etc., the resulting pdf file (produced by pdflatex) seems to change the size when viewed by acroread but during the compilation, I get "unused global option a3paper" message. Lubos ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp 30-Mar-2000 17:19:53-GMT,4031;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22189 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:19:51 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14144 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:31:06 -0500 Received: from MIT.EDU (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.28]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA14141 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:31:03 -0500 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA02717; Thu, 30 Mar 00 11:32:45 EST Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA17222; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mint-square.mit.edu (MINT-SQUARE.MIT.EDU [18.184.0.36]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA01435; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mtaylor@localhost) by mint-square.mit.edu (8.9.3) id LAA07610; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:31:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003301631.LAA07610@mint-square.mit.edu> To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: shipbuilder@ne.mediaone.net Subject: hyperref, colorlinks, and pdftex Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:31:01 -0500 From: Michael Taylor Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am trying to use pdflatex and hyperref to generate a pdf document. (This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1)) The entire operation goes very smoothly until I try to use the colorlinks option. Preamble: \documentclass[11pt]{mitthesis} \usepackage{lgrind} \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \usepackage{floatfig} \usepackage{wrapfig} \usepackage{epsfig} \usepackage{boxedminipage} \usepackage{float} \usepackage{varioref} \usepackage{bibcontents} \usepackage{reader} \pagestyle{plain} \setcounter{secnumdepth}{10} \newcommand{\ul}{\underline} \newcommand{\mbf}{\mathbf} \usepackage[pdftex, pdftitle={DDG-51 Maneuvering}, pdfauthor={LT Michael Taylor, USN}, pdfsubject={MIT Master's Thesis}, pdfpagemode={UseOutlines}, % colorlinks, linkcolor={blue}, citecolor={red}, pagebackref]{hyperref} When I uncomment the colorlinks line, I get the following output: (main.aux (cover.aux) (contents.aux) (chap1.aux) (chap2.aux) (chap3.aux) (biblio.aux)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg)) (main.out) (main.out) ** Make sure \initfloatingfigs being called immediately after \begin{document} !! ** (cover.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/omscmr.fd) [1[/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pd ftex.map]] (abstract.tex) [2]) [3] (contents.tex (main.toc) [4] (main.lof) [5] (main.lot)) [6] (chap1.tex Chapter 1. [7] [8]) [9] [10] (chap2.tex Chapter 2. [11] Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 15--23 [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] <./figures/flowchart.pdf 563.10374pt, 585.18625pt, obj 333> ! Too many }'s. \color@endbox ->\color@endgroup \egroup l.119 \end{figure} ? If I then just hit enter at all the question marks, the document comes out with no figures or tables. BTW, I get the same error about the "missing context support macros" when the compilation is successful. Thus, my question is why am I able to compile the document perfectly without colorlinks, but get absolutely nothing useful with it? Thanks in advance, ============================================================================= Michael Taylor, LT, USN (617)-253-5477 Naval Construction and Engineering Program (13A) mtaylor@mit.edu Massachusetts Institute of Technology 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Room 5-309h Cambridge, MA 02139 ============================================================================= 30-Mar-2000 19:43:05-GMT,1720;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26489 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:43:04 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14346 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:02:03 -0500 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14343 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:01:57 -0500 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id TAA24936; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:01:37 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:01:37 GMT Message-Id: <200003301901.TAA24936@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: mtaylor@mit.edu CC: pdftex@tug.org, shipbuilder@ne.mediaone.net In-reply-to: <200003301631.LAA07610@mint-square.mit.edu> (message from Michael Taylor on Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:31:01 -0500) Subject: Re: hyperref, colorlinks, and pdftex References: <200003301631.LAA07610@mint-square.mit.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ! Too many }'s. \color@endbox ->\color@endgroup \egroup this is the standard error message generated when a package uses low level box commands in a way that is not `colour safe' and you use latex colour commands. Either the package should be fixed to use latex box commands or if primitives are used, take care with groups. This is just an unfortunate feature of tex-the-program not being designed to support colour that well. LaTeX tries to hide that fact but if packages don't use latex commands then... see \subsection{Box commands and colour} \label{Sec:colour} in clsguide.tex in the base latex distribution for more on this. David 30-Mar-2000 19:55:31-GMT,2236;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26825 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:55:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14365 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:05:30 -0500 Received: from pine.frazmtn.com (root@pine.frazmtn.com [204.212.38.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14362 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:05:28 -0500 Received: from [204.212.38.149] (dyn53.frazmtn.com [204.212.38.149]) by pine.frazmtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA39799 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:05:16 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: deleeuw@laplace.stat.ucla.edu Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:05:15 -0800 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Jan de Leeuw Subject: centering graphics from \convertMPtoPDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I routinely use code like the following to create graphs, plots, etc in my pdf documents (with pdftex in CMacTeX). Question: is there a way to center these graphics, as with \centering in a figure environment ? \newwrite\mpfile \immediate \openout\mpfile = \jobname.mp \immediate \write \mpfile {% input graph; beginfig(0); draw begingraph(3in,3in); gdraw "subset.d" plot btex $\bullet$ etex withcolor .6green; endgraph; endfig; end;} \immediate \closeout \mpfile \immediate \write 18 {mpost \jobname.mp} % call metapost on \jobname.mp \convertMPtoPDF{\jobname.0}{1}{1} -- === Jan de Leeuw; Professor and Chair, UCLA Department of Statistics; US mail: 8142 Math Sciences Bldg, Box 951554, Los Angeles, CA 90095-1554 phone (310)-825-9550; fax (310)-206-5658; email: deleeuw@stat.ucla.edu http://www.stat.ucla.edu/~deleeuw and http://home1.gte.net/datamine/ ============================================================================ No matter where you go, there you are. --- Buckaroo Banzai http://webdev.stat.ucla.edu/sounds/nomatter.au ============================================================================ 30-Mar-2000 22:29:54-GMT,1894;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01758 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:29:43 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15176 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:23:28 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA15173 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:23:26 -0500 Received: from remote142-162.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.162] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12amPN-0004l0-00; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:23:18 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000331000854.3e679280@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:08:54 +0100 To: Michael Taylor , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref, colorlinks, and pdftex Cc: shipbuilder@ne.mediaone.net In-Reply-To: <200003301631.LAA07610@mint-square.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, At 11:31 30.03.2000 -0500, Michael Taylor wrote: >I am trying to use pdflatex and hyperref to generate a pdf document. >(This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1)) Without a minimal example to reproduce the error, I cannot help you. * Use the latest versions of the programs and packages in order to avoid to run into bugs that are already solved. hyperref: http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip pdftex.def (for pdftex 0.14): http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def ... * Try to generate a minimal test file that shows the error. Yours sincerely Heiko 31-Mar-2000 0:07:21-GMT,2152;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04486 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:07:20 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15622 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:20:16 -0500 Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15619 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:20:11 -0500 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (p2488.net10.usyd.edu.au [10.0.9.184]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12034 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:20:06 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <38E3E30A.24E79D04@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:28:10 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: \pdfdest Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, Here is something I regard as a bug: it seems not to be possible to use \pdfdest inside a \vadjust{...} after an \eqno. Thus, in the following example, the link destination is not created: An equation: $$ x=y \eqno (1)\vadjust{\kern -\baselineskip \pdfdest name {eqn1} fith \kern \baselineskip} $$ \pdfstartlink goto name{eqn1} See (1) \pdfendlink If I put the \eqno(1) bit after the \vadjust{...} then it's OK, or if I leave out the \vadjust{...} and just have $$ x=y \eqno (1)\pdfdest name {eqn1} fith $$ then it's OK too. (My macros had an automatic numbering mechanism that was sometimes used after an \eqno, and I also wanted a link destination there. The \vadjust{\kern-\baselineskip...} stuff was so that acroread shows you the line you want to see when you use the link, instead of placing it just out of view. I have altered my macros as a workaround, but I think pdftex is not behaving as it should.) Bob Howlett 31-Mar-2000 0:37:42-GMT,16897;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05317 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:37:41 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15800 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:49:55 -0500 Received: from MIT.EDU (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.28]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA15796 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:49:51 -0500 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA09146; Thu, 30 Mar 00 18:51:29 EST Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA01398; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from nerd-xing.mit.edu (NERD-XING.MIT.EDU [18.184.0.47]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA03927; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mtaylor@localhost) by nerd-xing.mit.edu (8.9.3) id SAA17045; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:49:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003302349.SAA17045@nerd-xing.mit.edu> To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: shipbuilder@ne.mediaone.net Subject: mitthesis.cls, hyperref, and pdftex Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:49:44 -0500 From: Michael Taylor Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:54 31.03.2000 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >Without a minimal example to reproduce the error, I cannot help you. > >* Use the latest versions of the programs and packages in order to > avoid to run into bugs that are already solved. > hyperref: > http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip > pdftex.def (for pdftex 0.14): > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def > ... > >* Try to generate a minimal test file that shows the error. Thank you for the reply. I have generated a test file and isolated the offending package. The package causing the problem is the template file for the mit thesis, called mitthesis.cls. The problem occurs when I change the documentclass from {report} to {mitthesis}. The test file below will work fine. The problem occurs when the first line is uncommented and the second is commented out. I have enclosed the mitthesis.cls file (sans comments) as well. I apologize if this is a large post, but I was unable to find the source for mitthesis.cls on a public ftp site. The files are demarcated to ease cutting and pasting. Here is the test file: begin test file========================================================= %\documentclass[11pt]{mitthesis} \documentclass[11pt]{report} \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \usepackage{wrapfig} \usepackage{epsfig} \usepackage{boxedminipage} \usepackage{float} \usepackage{floatfig} \usepackage{varioref} \pagestyle{plain} \setcounter{secnumdepth}{10} \newcommand{\ul}{\underline} \newcommand{\mbf}{\mathbf} %\usepackage[pdftex]{hyperref} \usepackage[pdftex, pdftitle={sometitle}, pdfauthor={someauthor}, pdfsubject={somethesis}, pdfpagemode={UseOutlines}, colorlinks, linkcolor={blue}, citecolor={red}, pagebackref]{hyperref} \begin{document} \initfloatingfigs \chapter{Some Chapter} \label{chapter} Write some introductory stuff here. \section{Some Section} \label{section} More introductions and justification for the two equations that follow. \begin{align} x&=y \label{eq:one} \\ y&=z \label{eq:two} \end{align} Some discussion of something that references equations \ref{eq:one} and \ref{eq:two} to generate some hyperlinks. This can also be a place to introduce \ref{tbl:sometable} and remind everyone that it appears in chapter \ref{chapter}, section \ref{section}. \begin{table}[hbtp] \caption{Some Kind of Table}\label{tbl:sometable} \begin{center} \begin{tabular}{|m|m|} \hline foo & value \\ \hline bar & value \\ \hline bazz & value \\ \hline \end{tabular} \end{center} \end{table} Now that table \ref{tbl:sometable} has been introduced and hopefully linked, it's time to introduce figure \ref{fig:somefigure}. Force the figure onto a page of floats to ensure that the reference to figure \ref{fig:somefigure} appears on a different page than the figure. \pagebreak \begin{figure}[p] \begin{center} \includegraphics[angle=0,width=6.5in]{coord.pdf} \caption{Some pdf figure}\label{fig:somefigure} \end{center} \end{figure} Based upon the assumptions outlined in some reference, the coordinate system is transformed into a body-fixed reference frame with its origin located at the midship section. Figure \ref{fig:anotherfig} illustrates the coordinate system in a body-fixed reference frame. \begin{floatingfigure}{3.75in} \mbox{\includegraphics[angle=0,width=3.5in]{coord.pdf}} \caption{Another pdf figure}\label{fig:anotherfig} \end{floatingfigure} This stuff here is just some blah, blah, blah to take up space and ensure that the program is working properly. Thus, I would like to put a lot of stuff here even though it is annoying. In the most general case, the ship may exhibit coupled motions in all six degrees of freedom shown in Figure \ref{fig:anotherfig}. All three forces and all three moments shown in act on the ship during normal operating conditions while underway at sea. Equating the forces and moments acting on the ship to the rates of change of linear and angular momentum experienced by the ship yields the generalized equations of motion shown somewhere. \end{document} end file======================================================================= Here is the mitthesis.cls source. begin mitthesis.cls=========================================================== \NeedsTeXFormat{LaTeX2e} \ProvidesClass{mitthesis}[1999/10/20] \def\mystretch{1.5} % Double spacing hack \DeclareOption{doublespace}{} % This is default % So we do not read this style twice \DeclareOption{singlespace}{ % If he explicitly wants single spacing \typeout{Single spaced} \def\mystretch{1}} %% `vi' and `upcase' document style options. Krishna Sethuraman (1990) \newcount\vithesis \DeclareOption{vi}{\typeout{Course VI/VIII thesis style.}\advance\vithesis by1} \vithesis=0 \DeclareOption{upcase}{\typeout{Uppercase cover page.} \gdef\choosecase#1{\uppercase\expandafter{#1}}} \def\choosecase#1{#1} % Thesis looks much like report \DeclareOption*{\PassOptionsToClass{\CurrentOption}{report}} \ProcessOptions \LoadClass{report} % If the user wants single spacing, set baselinestretch=1. % Read the doublespace style that we got from Rochester. \input doublespace.sty % We always read doublespacing \def\baselinestretch{\mystretch} % Double spacing hack %%%%%%% Set up margins and formatting params %%% % Margins. % Note we want 1in top margin assuming no header line, so push header % into 1in margin. % Draft mode brings the header back down. \setlength{\oddsidemargin}{0.25in} % 1.25in left margin \setlength{\evensidemargin}{0.25in} % 1.25in left margin (even pages) \setlength{\topmargin}{0.0in} % 1in top margin \setlength{\textwidth}{6.0in} % 6.0in text - 1.25in rt margin \setlength{\textheight}{9in} % Body ht for 1in margins \addtolength{\topmargin}{-\headheight} % No header, so compensate \addtolength{\topmargin}{-\headsep} % for header height and separation % The next two macros compensate page style for headers and footers % We only need them in page styles that USE headers and footers. % If we have a header, it must be 1in from top of page. \def\pulldownheader{ % Shift header down 1in from top \addtolength{\topmargin}{\headheight} \addtolength{\topmargin}{\headsep} \addtolength{\textheight}{-\headheight} \addtolength{\textheight}{-\headsep} } % If we have a footer, put it 1in up from bottom \def\pullupfooter{ % Shift footer up \addtolength{\textheight}{-\footskip} \addtolength{\textheight}{-\footheight} } %%%%%%% End of margins and formatting params %%% %%%%%%% Fix various header and footer problems %%% % Format for draft of thesis. Define our own PageStyle - % Just like headings, but has foot lines with the date and warning \if@twoside % If two-sided printing. \def\ps@drafthead{ \let\@mkboth\markboth \def\@oddfoot{\rm \today \hfil \sc **DRAFT**} \def\@evenfoot{\sc **DRAFT** \hfil \rm \today } \def\@evenhead{\rm \thepage\hfil \sl \leftmark} \def\@oddhead{\hbox{}\sl \rightmark \hfil \rm\thepage} \def\chaptermark##1{\markboth {\uppercase{\ifnum \c@secnumdepth >\m@ne \@chapapp\ \thechapter. \ \fi ##1}}{}} \def\sectionmark##1{\markright {\uppercase{\ifnum \c@secnumdepth >\z@ \thesection. \ \fi ##1}}} \pulldownheader % Bring header down from edge \pullupfooter % Bring footer up } \else % If one-sided printing. \def\ps@drafthead{ \let\@mkboth\markboth \def\@oddfoot{\rm \today \hfil \sc **DRAFT**} \def\@oddhead{\hbox{}\sl \rightmark \hfil \rm\thepage} \def\chaptermark##1{\markright {\uppercase{\ifnum \c@secnumdepth >\m@ne \@chapapp\ \thechapter. \ \fi ##1}}} \pulldownheader % Bring header down from edge \pullupfooter % Bring footer up } \fi % I redefine these formats that were defined in report.sty % Definition of 'headings' page style % Note the use of ##1 for parameter of \def\chaptermark inside the % \def\ps@headings. % \if@twoside % If two-sided printing. \def\ps@headings{\let\@mkboth\markboth \def\@oddfoot{} \def\@evenfoot{} % No feet. \def\@evenhead{\rm \thepage\hfil \sl \leftmark} % Left heading. \def\@oddhead{\hbox{}\sl \rightmark \hfil \rm\thepage} % Right heading. \def\chaptermark##1{\markboth {\uppercase{\ifnum \c@secnumdepth >\m@ne \@chapapp\ \thechapter. \ \fi ##1}}{}} \def\sectionmark##1{\markright {\uppercase{\ifnum \c@secnumdepth >\z@ \thesection. \ \fi ##1}}} \pulldownheader % Bring header down from edge } \else % If one-sided printing. \def\ps@headings{\let\@mkboth\markboth \def\@oddfoot{} \def\@evenfoot{} % No feet. \def\@oddhead{\hbox {}\sl \rightmark \hfil \rm\thepage} % Heading. \def\chaptermark##1{\markright {\uppercase{\ifnum \c@secnumdepth >\m@ne \@chapapp\ \thechapter. \ \fi ##1}}} \pulldownheader % Bring header down from edge } \fi % Redefinition of 'myheadings' page style. % \def\ps@myheadings{\let\@mkboth\@gobbletwo \def\@oddfoot{} \def\@evenfoot{} \def\sectionmark##1{} \def\subsectionmark##1{} \def\@evenhead{\rm \thepage\hfil\sl\leftmark\hbox {}} % \def\@oddhead{\hbox{}\sl\rightmark \hfil \rm\thepage} % \pulldownheader % Bring header down from edge } % Redefine '/chapter' to always start on an odd page. % Should make no difference in singleside mode. % \def\chapter{\cleardoublepage % Starts new page. \thispagestyle{plain} % Page style of chapter page is 'plain' \global\@topnum\z@ % Prevents figures from going at top of page. \@afterindentfalse % Suppresses indent in first paragraph. Change \secdef\@chapter\@schapter} % to \@afterindenttrue to have indent. % If using the report style, use - instead of . in the figure number. \@ifundefined{thechapter}{}{\def\thefigure{\thechapter-\arabic{figure}}} %%%%%%%%% End of Style parameters %%%% % Here's Gildea's Boilerplate Stuff. % Copyright (c) 1987 by Stephen Gildea % Permission to copy all or part of this work is granted, provided % that the copies are not made or distributed for resale, and that % the copyright notice and this notice are retained. %% Define all the pieces that go on the title page and the abstract. % \title and \author already exist \def\prevdegrees#1{\gdef\@prevdegrees{#1}} \def\@prevdegrees{} \def\department#1{\gdef\@department{#1}} % If you are getting two degrees, use \and between the names. \def\degree#1{\setbox0\hbox{#1} %for side effect of setting \@degreeword \gdef\@degree{#1}} % \and is used inside the \degree argument to separate two degrees \def\and{\gdef\@degreeword{degrees} \par and \par} \def\@degreeword{degree} \def\copyrightnotice#1{\copyrightnoticetext{\copyright\ #1. All rights reserved.\par\permission}} % Occacionally you will need to exactly specify the text of the % copyright notice. The \copyrightnoticetext command is then useful. \long\def\copyrightnoticetext#1{\gdef\@copyrightnotice{#1}} \def\@copyrightnotice{\copyright\ \Mit\ \@degreeyear. All rights reserved.} %% `vi' documentclass option: Specifying this option automatically %% copyrights the thesis to the author and gives MIT permission to copy and %% distribute the document. If you want, you can still specify %% \copyrightnotice{stuff} to copyright to someone else, or %% \copyrightnoticetext{stuff} to specify the exact text of the copyright %% notice. \ifodd\vithesis \copyrightnoticetext{\copyright\ \@author, \uppercase\expandafter{\romannumeral\@degreeyear}. All rights reserved.\par\permission} %% or just %%\@degreeyear}} \typeout{Copyright given to author, permission to copy/distribute given to MIT.} \else \typeout{Thesis document copyright MIT unless otherwise (manually) specified} \fi \def\thesisdate#1{\gdef\@thesisdate{#1}} % typically just a month and year \def\degreemonth#1{\gdef\@degreemonth{#1}} \def\degreeyear#1{\gdef\@degreeyear{#1}} % Usage: \supervisor{name}{title} % \chairman{name}{title} % since there can be more than one supervisor, % we build the appropriate boxes for the titlepage and % the abstractpage as the user makes multiple calls % to \supervisor \newbox\@titlesupervisor \newbox\@abstractsupervisor \def\supervisor#1#2{\setbox\@titlesupervisor\vbox {\unvbox\@titlesupervisor \vskip 10pt% plus 1fil minus 1fil \def\baselinestretch{1}\large \signature{Certified by}{#1 \\ #2 \\ Thesis Supervisor}} \setbox\@abstractsupervisor\vbox{\unvbox\@abstractsupervisor \vskip\baselineskip \def\baselinestretch{1}\@normalsize \par\noindent Thesis Supervisor: #1 \\ Title: #2}} % department chairman, not thesis committee chairman \def\chairman#1#2{\gdef\@chairmanname{#1}\gdef\@chairmantitle{#2}} %% `upcase' documentclass option: \choosecase is defined either as a dummy or %% a macro to change the (expanded) argument to uppercase. \def\maketitle{\begin{titlepage} \large {\def\baselinestretch{1.2}\Large\bf \choosecase{\@title} \par} by\par {\Large \choosecase{\@author}} \par \@prevdegrees \par \choosecase{Submitted to the} \choosecase{\@department} \\ \choosecase{in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the} \choosecase{\@degreeword} \choosecase{of} \par \choosecase{\@degree} \par at the \par\MIT\par \@degreemonth\ \@degreeyear \par \@copyrightnotice \par \vskip 3\baselineskip \signature{Author}{\@department \\ \@thesisdate} \par \vfill \unvbox\@titlesupervisor \par \vfill \signature{Accepted by}{\@chairmanname \\ \@chairmantitle} \vfill \end{titlepage}} % this environment should probably be called abstract, % but we want people to also be able to get at the more % basic abstract environment \def\abstractpage{\newpage \begin{center}{\large{\bf \@title} \\ by \\ \@author \\[\baselineskip]} \par \def\baselinestretch{1}\@normalsize Submitted to the \@department \\ on \@thesisdate, in partial fulfillment of the \\ requirements for the \@degreeword\ of \\ \@degree \end{center} \par \begin{abstract}} %% Changed from \unvbox to \unvcopy for use with multiple copies of abstract %% page. %% Krishna Sethuraman (1990) \def\endabstractpage{\end{abstract}\noindent \unvcopy\@abstractsupervisor \newpage} %% This counter is used to save the page number for the second copy of %% the abstract. \newcounter{savepage} % You can use the titlepage environment to do it all yourself if you % don't want to use \maketitle. If the titlepage environment, the % paragraph skip is infinitely stretchable, so if you leave a blank line % between lines that you want space between, the space will stretch so % that the title page fills up the entire page. \def\titlepage{\newpage\centering \thispagestyle{empty} \parindent 0pt \parskip 10pt plus 1fil minus 1fil \def\baselinestretch{1}\@normalsize\vbox to \vsize\bgroup\vbox to 9in\bgroup} % The \kern0pt pushes any depth into the height. Thanks to Richard Stone. \def\endtitlepage{\par\kern 0pt\egroup\vss\egroup\newpage} \def\MIT{MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY} \def\Mit{Massachusetts Institute of Technology} \def\permission{\par\noindent{\centering The author hereby grants to MIT permission to reproduce and distribute publicly paper and electronic copies of this thesis document in whole or in part.}\par} \def\signature#1#2{\par\noindent#1\dotfill\null\\* {\raggedleft #2\par}} \def\abstract{\subsection*{Abstract}\small\def\baselinestretch{1}\@normalsize} \def\endabstract{\par} end mitthesis.cls=========================================================== Thank you again for the assistance. Michael Taylor 31-Mar-2000 2:45:22-GMT,2285;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08245 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:45:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16406 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:11:23 -0500 Received: from fishhead.tag.csiro.au (IDENT:root@tags115.tag.csiro.au [146.118.16.115]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA16403 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:11:18 -0500 Received: from fishhead.tag.csiro.au (jhowarth@fishhead.tag.csiro.au [146.118.16.115]) by fishhead.tag.csiro.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA29640; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:13:31 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14564.2507.649648.796347@fishhead.tag.csiro.au> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:13:31 +1000 (EST) From: Jordan Howarth To: Michael Taylor Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: mitthesis.cls, hyperref, and pdftex In-Reply-To: <200003302349.SAA17045@nerd-xing.mit.edu> References: <200003302349.SAA17045@nerd-xing.mit.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Michael> Thank you for the reply. I have generated a test file and isolated Michael> the offending package. The package causing the problem is the Michael> template file for the mit thesis, called mitthesis.cls. The problem Michael> occurs when I change the documentclass from {report} to {mitthesis}. Michael> The test file below will work fine. The problem occurs when the Michael> first line is uncommented and the second is commented out. I have Michael, My univeristy has its own *thesis.sty, ie. unethesis.sty, but for it to work my preamble looks like this, %%============PREAMBLE================ \documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{report} %%============PACKAGES================ \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage{epsfig} \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{natbib} \usepackage{rotating} \usepackage{threeparttable} \usepackage{unethesis} \usepackage{wasysym} Note that "unethesis.sty" is used as a package not as a document style. This may be related? Jord 31-Mar-2000 4:41:31-GMT,2002;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10734 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:41:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA16749 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:11:25 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA16746 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:11:23 -0500 Received: from remote142-23.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.23] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12asmG-0000FQ-00; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:11:20 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000331060817.3cd780fe@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:08:17 +0100 To: Michael Taylor , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: mitthesis.cls, hyperref, and pdftex Cc: shipbuilder@ne.mediaone.net In-Reply-To: <200003302349.SAA17045@nerd-xing.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 18:49 30.03.2000 -0500, Michael Taylor wrote: > >At 08:54 31.03.2000 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >>Without a minimal example to reproduce the error, I cannot help you. ^^^^^^^ 18 KB are not _minimal_! First step: \documentclass[11pt]{mitthesis} \usepackage[pdftex,colorlinks]{hyperref} \begin{document} \begin{table} bla bla \end{table} \end{document} The next reduction step (mitthesis.cls loads doublespace.sty): \documentclass{article} \usepackage{doublespace} \usepackage[pdftex,colorlinks]{hyperref} \begin{document} \begin{table} bla bla \end{table} \end{document} The problem is the LaTeX2.09 package "doublespace.sty". Replace it by the LaTeX2e package "setspace.sty". Yours sincerely Heiko 31-Mar-2000 5:41:59-GMT,2390;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA11937 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:41:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA16844 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:58:52 -0500 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (bogo@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16841 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:58:46 -0500 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18607; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:58:41 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA20002; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:58:40 +1000 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200003310458.OAA20002@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: \pdfdest In-Reply-To: <38E3E30A.24E79D04@mail.usyd.edu.au> from Robert Howlett at "Mar 31, 2000 09:28:10 am" To: Robert Howlett Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:58:40 +1000 (EST) CC: pdfTeX mailing list X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Bob, > Thus, in the following example, the link destination is not > created: > > An equation: > $$ > x=y \eqno (1)\vadjust{\kern -\baselineskip > \pdfdest name {eqn1} fith > \kern \baselineskip} > $$ > \pdfstartlink > goto name{eqn1} > See (1) > \pdfendlink If you use \vbox instead of \vadjust then it seems to work. > as a workaround, but I think pdftex is not behaving as it should.) It looks like, for the purpose of positioning target anchors, that \vadjust could be treated in the same way as \vbox . However, it looks like \vadjust isn't an appropriate thing to use, since its contents should be just vertical material, such as \kern . Try putting \vadjust{word} . The string 'word' does not appear anywhere on the page. Try it in TeX (rather than pdf-TeX). The same thing happens. There is no example in the TeXBook (that I could find) where ink is placed using \vadjust . Hope this helps, Ross > > Bob Howlett 31-Mar-2000 8:28:21-GMT,3703;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA15526 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:28:20 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA17742 for pdftex-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 02:42:31 -0500 Received: from mx02.netaddress.usa.net (mx02.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.139]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA17739 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 02:42:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 27284 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2000 02:11:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 6323 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2000 18:07:07 -0000 Received: from tug.org [158.121.106.10] by mx02 via mtad (2.6) with ESMTP id 341ecdqpn0733M02; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:41:53 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA13176 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:26:18 -0500 Received: from mail-server-5.star.net.uk (mail-server-5.star.net.uk [195.216.16.175]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA13173 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:26:15 -0500 From: david.waller@westsig.co.uk X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13673 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2000 10:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netstar.invensys.com) (212.125.65.20) by mail-server-5.star.net.uk with SMTP; 30 Mar 2000 10:26:01 -0000 Received: by netstar.invensys.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 802568B2.002C6F0D ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:05:20 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: BTR To: lup@Physics.DCU.IE cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <802568B2.002C6886.00@netstar.invensys.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:55:29 +0100 Subject: Re: greater than a4paper Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Lubos, I have used the package geometry (from CTAN if not alreadfy available on your machine). This allows you to set the paper to any size, as well as adjsut the margins, header space, shift for double sided paper etc. I have used this package with pdflatex with success. Dave Waller Lubos Polerecky on 28/03/2000 15:25:58 To: pdfTeX cc: (bcc: David Waller/Birmingham/GB/Westinghouse-Signal/BTR) Subject: greater than a4paper Hi, is it possible to use papersize greater than a4? If I use \documentclass[a4paper]{article} the paper size is a4. If I use \documentclass[a3paper]{article} or a2paper, etc., the resulting pdf file (produced by pdflatex) seems to change the size when viewed by acroread but during the compilation, I get "unused global option a3paper" message. Lubos ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp 31-Mar-2000 8:59:55-GMT,2754;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA16129 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 01:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA17894 for pdftex-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 03:36:48 -0500 Received: from ipc4.uib.es (ipc4.uib.es [130.206.33.24]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA17891 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 03:36:25 -0500 Received: from ipc4.uib.es (pcignasi.uib.es [130.206.134.178]) by ipc4.uib.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04465 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:32:14 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <38E4639C.BA5D9D27@ipc4.uib.es> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:36:44 +0200 From: Ignasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?Furi=F3?= Caldentey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Re: seminar.cls + pdftex: slide dimensions (partial solution) References: <38D600E6.72270D40@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Christian Schlauer wrote: > > Hello! > > There was a question with the subject "Slide dimenssions + seminar + > pdftex" on the pdftex mailing list last year, and nobody answered. I > encountered the same problem now and posted it to de.comp.text.tex > (Message-ID <38C53169.1206843E@web.de>) and I got the following > solution (thanks to Oliver Jennrich!): > I was the sender of the question. Thank you for your answer! Just a problem, it doesn't work with the hyperref package. Process the next example uncommenting the hyperref line and you will get again the wrong(?) slide dimensions. Any idea ? Ignasi \documentclass{seminar} \input{seminar.bug} % doesn't change the behaviour \input{seminar.bg2} % doesn't change the behaviour \newif\ifpdf \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX \else \pdfoutput=1 % we are running PDFLaTeX \pdftrue \fi \ifpdf %\usepackage[pdftex]{hyperref} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \pdfpagewidth=297truemm % your milage may vary.... % ^^^^ \pdfpageheight=210truemm \pdfhorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \pdfvorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \fi \begin{document} \begin{slide} slide \end{slide} \end{document} -- ------------------------------------------------------- Ignasi Furió Caldentey ignasi@ipc4.uib.es Dpt. Matemàtiques i informàtica http://dmi.uib.es Universitat de les Illes Balears http://www.uib.es Fax: +34 971 173003 Tel.: +34 971 173196 ------------------------------------------------------- 31-Mar-2000 9:45:16-GMT,2846;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16945 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 02:45:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18051 for pdftex-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:15:27 -0500 Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18048 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:15:22 -0500 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (p2488.net10.usyd.edu.au [10.0.9.184]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00068; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:15:17 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <38E46E8A.9F25954E@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:23:22 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Moore CC: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: \pdfdest References: <200003310458.OAA20002@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thanks, Ross. I understand it now, and pdftex is indeed behaving like TeX itself. You can use \vadjust to actually put ink on the page -- e.g. Hello \vadjust{\kern-20 pt \hbox{xxxxx}\kern 20 pt}World! works fine. But it doesn't work from internal horizontal mode, and \eqno puts material inside an hbox that doesn't go directly into the main vertical list but into a bigger box that goes into the vertical list. So I have to use \vbox, as you suggest. (In fact, I had already changed my macros to do this.) Bob ------- Ross Moore wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > > Thus, in the following example, the link destination is not > > created: > > > > An equation: > > $$ > > x=y \eqno (1)\vadjust{\kern -\baselineskip > > \pdfdest name {eqn1} fith > > \kern \baselineskip} > > $$ > > \pdfstartlink > > goto name{eqn1} > > See (1) > > \pdfendlink > > If you use \vbox instead of \vadjust then it seems to work. > > > as a workaround, but I think pdftex is not behaving as it should.) > > It looks like, for the purpose of positioning target anchors, > that \vadjust could be treated in the same way as \vbox . > > However, it looks like \vadjust isn't an appropriate thing to use, > since its contents should be just vertical material, such as \kern . > > Try putting \vadjust{word} . > The string 'word' does not appear anywhere on the page. > Try it in TeX (rather than pdf-TeX). The same thing happens. > > There is no example in the TeXBook (that I could find) > where ink is placed using \vadjust . > > Hope this helps, > > Ross > > > > > Bob Howlett 31-Mar-2000 10:21:55-GMT,2103;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA17611 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 03:21:54 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18235 for pdftex-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:58:24 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18232 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:58:21 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03857; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:58:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA19839; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:58:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200003310958.LAA19839@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: \pdfdest In-Reply-To: <38E3E30A.24E79D04@mail.usyd.edu.au> from Robert Howlett at "Mar 31, 0 09:28:10 am" To: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au (Robert Howlett) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:58:12 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Here is something I regard as a bug: it seems not to be > possible to use \pdfdest inside a \vadjust{...} after > an \eqno. > > Thus, in the following example, the link destination is not > created: > > An equation: > $$ > x=y \eqno (1)\vadjust{\kern -\baselineskip > \pdfdest name {eqn1} fith > \kern \baselineskip} > $$ > \pdfstartlink > goto name{eqn1} > See (1) > \pdfendlink \pdfdest creates a whatsit node, which is somehow ignored in this case. A simple test can be replacing \pdfdest... with \special{TEST}. After texing it the text of \special is not output at all. Thus if you regard it as a bug of pdftex, then it certainly has to do with TeX as well. Regards, Thanh 31-Mar-2000 11:10:37-GMT,2698;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18580 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:10:36 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18172 for pdftex-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:43:24 -0500 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18169 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:43:22 -0500 Received: from gamgee.cs.uni-dortmund.de (gamgee.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.168]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id KAA24970; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:42:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (guennewi@localhost) by gamgee.cs.uni-dortmund.de id LAA25790; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:42:50 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: gamgee.LS6NIS: guennewi set sender to guennewi@ls6.informatik.uni-dortmund.de using -f To: Ignasi=?iso-8859-1?q?_Furi=F3?= Caldentey Cc: pdftex Subject: Re: seminar.cls + pdftex: slide dimensions (partial solution) References: <38D600E6.72270D40@web.de> <38E4639C.BA5D9D27@ipc4.uib.es> From: Michael Guennewig Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:42:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: Ignasi=?iso-8859-1?q?_Furi=F3?= Caldentey's message of "Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:36:44 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id EAA18170 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ignasi Furió Caldentey writes: > Christian Schlauer wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > There was a question with the subject "Slide dimenssions + seminar + > > pdftex" on the pdftex mailing list last year, and nobody answered. I > > encountered the same problem now and posted it to de.comp.text.tex > > (Message-ID <38C53169.1206843E@web.de>) and I got the following > > solution (thanks to Oliver Jennrich!): > > > I was the sender of the question. Thank you for your answer! > Just a problem, it doesn't work with the hyperref package. > Process the next example uncommenting the hyperref line and you will > get again the wrong(?) slide dimensions. > > Any idea ? Hyperref uses \AtBeginDocument to set the page-dimensions. It uses mm instead of truemm. When you say something like \AtBeginDocument{% \pdfpagewidth=297truemm \pdfpageheight=210truemm } after the \usepackage{hyperref} it should correct the slide dimensions. Michael Günnewig 31-Mar-2000 11:28:51-GMT,1992;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18922 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:28:50 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA18761 for pdftex-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:03:01 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA18758 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:02:59 -0500 Received: from remote142-147.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.147] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12azCZ-0006JY-00; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:02:55 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000331125736.08cf7096@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:57:36 +0100 To: Ignasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?Furi=F3?= Caldentey , pdftex From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: seminar.cls + pdftex: slide dimensions (partial solution) In-Reply-To: <38E4639C.BA5D9D27@ipc4.uib.es> References: <38D600E6.72270D40@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id GAA18759 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:36 31.03.2000 +0200, Ignasi Furió Caldentey wrote: >%\usepackage[pdftex]{hyperref} >\pdfpagewidth=297truemm % your milage may vary.... >% ^^^^ >\pdfpageheight=210truemm At \begin{document} hyperref looks at \paperwidth and \paperheight and sets \pdfpagewidth and \pdfpageheight. Therefore you have to put your settings of \pdfpagewidth and \pdfpageheight in \AtBeginDocument (not tested): \AtBeginDocument{% \setlength{\pdfpagewidth}{297trumm}% \setlength{\pdfpageheight}{210truemm}% } Yours sincerely Heiko 31-Mar-2000 11:31:30-GMT,2836;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18953 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:31:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA18589 for pdftex-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 05:44:31 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA18586 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 05:44:20 -0500 Received: from remote142-174.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.174] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12ayuI-0005xh-00; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:44:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000331123212.3d372042@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:32:12 +0100 To: Ross Moore , Robert Howlett From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: \pdfdest Cc: pdfTeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <200003310458.OAA20002@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> References: <38E3E30A.24E79D04@mail.usyd.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 14:58 31.03.2000 +1000, Ross Moore wrote: > >> Thus, in the following example, the link destination is not >> created: >> >> $$ >> x=y \eqno (1)\vadjust{\kern -\baselineskip >> \pdfdest name {eqn1} fith >> \kern \baselineskip} >> $$ > > >However, it looks like \vadjust isn't an appropriate thing to use, >since its contents should be just vertical material, such as \kern . > >Try putting \vadjust{word} . >The string 'word' does not appear anywhere on the page. >Try it in TeX (rather than pdf-TeX). The same thing happens. \vadjust, used in horizontal (or math) mode migrates to the vertical list that contains this horizontal stuff. But if this list is not a vertical list, \vadjust cannot migrate and the \vadjust is only stored in the horizontal list. Here it does not have an effect until the outer list will be a vertical one. By \eqno a \hbox is set with the equation number. So \vadjust will be in the \hbox of the equation and the \hbox of the equation number, now \vadjust cannot migrate. Example file: $$ x=y \vadjust{before eqno}\eqno(1)\vadjust{after eqno} $$ Hello\vadjust{vadjust} World. Hello\hbox{\vadjust{hbox in hmode}} World. \hbox{\vadjust{hbox in vmode}} Hello$\vadjust{in math}$ World. Hello$\hbox{\vadjust{in math and hbox}}$ World. \setbox0=\hbox{\vadjust{setbox}} Hello\copy0 World Hello\unhcopy0 World \bye ==> Solution: Put your \vadjust _before_ \eqno. Yours sincerely Heiko 31-Mar-2000 13:46:03-GMT,3524;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21543 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:46:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA19774 for pdftex-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:15:27 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19771 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:15:25 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12b1Gm-0005vG-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:15:24 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12b1Gm-0003mD-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:15:24 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14564.41754.406055.376078@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:07:38 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Non-member submission from [Stephan Lehmke ] In-Reply-To: <200003311215.HAA19385@tug.org> References: <200003311215.HAA19385@tug.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > From: Stephan Lehmke > > Christian Schlauer wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > There was a question with the subject "Slide dimenssions + seminar + > > pdftex" on the pdftex mailing list last year, and nobody answered. I > > encountered the same problem now and posted it to de.comp.text.tex > > (Message-ID <38C53169.1206843E@web.de>) and I got the following > > solution (thanks to Oliver Jennrich!): > > > I was the sender of the question. Thank you for your answer! > Just a problem, it doesn't work with the hyperref package. > Process the next example uncommenting the hyperref line and you will > get again the wrong(?) slide dimensions. > > Any idea ? hyperref sets \pdfpageheight to \paperheight with \AtBeginDocument, so your changes will be undone. If you say \AtBeginDocument {% \setlength{\pdfpageheight}{\strip@pt\paperheight truept}% \setlength{\pdfpagewidth}{\strip@pt\paperwidth truept}% \setlength{\pdfhorigin}{1truein}% \setlength{\pdfvorigin}{1truein}% }% _after_ loading hyperref, the paperheight and paperwidth will be set at the right time. Furthermore, while your solution fixes the paper size to A4 (independent of the paper size specified in the document class option), this solution with \strip@pt (You know you have to include this in \makeatletter\makeatother when using it in a document, don't you?) uses the actual setting of \paperheight and \paperwidth. One last remark. As opposed to `sensible' packages like typearea or geometry, seminar does _not_ exchange \paperheight and \paperwidth when making landscape slides, so you have to exchange \paperheight and \paperwidth in the above expression for landscape slides. In the TeXPower bundle http://lrb.cs.uni-dortmund.de/~lehmke/texpower I'm going into greater lengths to get it all right, but it's only pre-alpha at the moment. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 31-Mar-2000 13:57:53-GMT,2244;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21803 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:57:52 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA19788 for pdftex-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:15:59 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19785 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:15:55 -0500 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12b1HF-0006G1-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:15:53 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12b1HF-00001P-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:15:53 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14564.41783.856888.673412@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:08:07 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Non-member submission from [Stephan Lehmke ] In-Reply-To: <200003311306.IAA19710@tug.org> References: <200003311306.IAA19710@tug.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > From: Stephan Lehmke Hi, is there a way of setting the page color for a pdf file created with pdfTeX, short of a) using a postprocessor like PPower4, b) putting a colores rule behind every page ? No version of pdftex.def I could find defines \set@page@color, so using \pagecolor with pdflatex leads to an undefined control sequence error for \set@color (rather cryptic error message, btw.). The background package from the PPower4 suite seems to use a mechanism evaluated by the postprocessor. The pdfslide package seems to allow only background pictures. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 31-Mar-2000 22:58:29-GMT,2784;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07685 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:58:28 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20584 for pdftex-list; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:20:44 -0500 Received: from kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20581 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:20:42 -0500 Received: from milliways.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@milliways.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.56]) by kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA27120; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 00:20:39 +0200 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 00:20:39 +0200 Message-Id: <200003312220.AAA27120@kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jan de Leeuw Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: centering graphics from \convertMPtoPDF In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Jan" == Jan de Leeuw writes: > I routinely use code like the following to create graphs, plots, > etc in my pdf documents (with pdftex in CMacTeX). Question: is > there a way to center these graphics, as with \centering in a > figure environment ? \par\noindent\centering{\convertMPtoPDF{\jobname.0}{1}{1}} You need at least a \leavevmode before \centering. \noindent does the same as \leavevmode but also sets \parindent to 0pt for this paragraph and thus prevents the figure from being shifted to the right and causing an overfull \hbox. The \par prevents you from accidentally start the figure inside a paragraph. That would shift the figure to the right as well. You can also put it into a displaymath environment: \[\convertMPtoPDF{\jobname.0}{1}{1}}\] In this case the vertical space above the picture depends on \abovedisplayskip or \abovedisplayshortskip if you are in horizontal mode and on parskip if you are in vertical mode. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Apr-2000 8:51:35-GMT,2420;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20423 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 01:51:34 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA21318 for pdftex-list; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 03:19:48 -0500 Received: from danube.river-valley.com ([202.142.1.36]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA21315 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 03:19:27 -0500 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11281; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:51:50 +0530 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:46:41 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: pdftex@tug.org cc: Sebastian Rahtz Subject: Re: Non-member submission from [Stephan Lehmke ] In-Reply-To: <14564.41783.856888.673412@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: SR> is there a way of setting the page color for a pdf file created SR> with pdfTeX, short of SR> SR> a) using a postprocessor like PPower4, SR> SR> b) putting a colores rule behind every page Given below is a sample TeX file with macros for generating page colors of your choice. %------------------------------------- \documentclass{article} \usepackage{color} \makeatletter \def\set@page@color{% \global\let\current@page@color\current@color% \expandafter\ifx\csname begindvi@color\endcsname\relax% \gdef\begindvi@color{% \pdfliteral{q \current@page@color\space 1 i -1000 -1000 2000 2000 re f Q}% \gdef\@begindvi{\begindvi@color}% }% \AtBeginDvi{\begindvi@color}% \fi } \makeatother \begin{document} \pagecolor{blue} \Huge \color{white} \bfseries Hello World! this is \TeX. \newpage \definecolor{olive}{rgb}{.4,.6,0} \pagecolor{olive} \Huge \color{white} \bfseries Hello World! this is \TeX. \end{document} %------------------------------------- Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 1-Apr-2000 17:37:06-GMT,14322;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29784 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 10:37:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21927 for pdftex-list; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:59:01 -0500 Received: from memphis.ime.unicamp.br (memphis.ime.unicamp.br [143.106.77.83]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21924 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:58:58 -0500 Received: from ime.unicamp.br (net96144.ime.unicamp.br [143.106.96.144]) by memphis.ime.unicamp.br (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA25488 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 14:00:06 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <38E62BCF.A4FF3C7E@ime.unicamp.br> Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 14:03:23 -0300 From: margarida X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfslide: manual.pdf!=demo.pdf Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------83967AE604F596DE8CEF9877" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------83967AE604F596DE8CEF9877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've download the pdfslide package and pdflatexed the file manual.tex. It seems that manual.pdf should coincide with the file demo.pdf that came with the package but it differs on two respects: 1) some fonts are different, for instance the font for the title "Indian TeX ..." is different from the one showing in demo.pdf and the math formulas on page 6 are all garbled (in fact the log file does warn about font problems) --------------------- excerpt from log file begins --------------------- Warning: pdftex (file LucidNewMatExt): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Warning: pdftex (file LucidNewMatAltIta): cannot open Type 1 font file for read ing Warning: pdftex (file LucidNewMatSym): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Output written on manual.pdf (10 pages, 166094 bytes). --------------------- excerpt from log file ends --------------------- Obs. I have the following Lucida ps fonts in my Mac: Lucida Bright Lucida Calligraphy Lucida Fax Lucida Handwriting Lucida Sans Lucida Sans Typewriter LucidaBright Hide Screen LucidaBrightExpert HideScreen LucidaExpertMath TeX HideScreen Lucida Blackletter 2) the animation effects are not working. When I move to the second page "Objectives", all items show at once, with an orange rectangle at the end of the sentence, where the \pause command goes in the manual.tex file. I'm running CMacTex 3.4, pdfTeX .14e. The zipped and uuencoded manual.log file is attached. I would appreciate any and all help deciphering 1) and 2). Thanks, Margarida ******************************************************* Margarida P. Mello Dept. of Applied Math. 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'5A end --------------83967AE604F596DE8CEF9877-- 1-Apr-2000 19:57:29-GMT,1463;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02419 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 12:57:28 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22303 for pdftex-list; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 14:20:27 -0500 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22300 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 14:20:26 -0500 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id UAA16022; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:19:14 GMT Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:19:14 GMT Message-Id: <200004012019.UAA16022@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: cvr@river-valley.com CC: pdftex@tug.org, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk In-reply-to: (message from Radhakrishnan C V on Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:46:41 +0530 (IST)) Subject: Re: Non-member submission from [Stephan Lehmke ] References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Given below is a sample TeX file with macros for generating page > colors of your choice. aha, thanks. Unless someone tells me that that breaks all their documents then that definition will find its way into the next version of pdftex.def If I remember:-) David 2-Apr-2000 5:04:20-GMT,2860;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12926 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:04:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22989 for pdftex-list; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:04:22 -0500 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.117]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22986 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:04:13 -0500 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01333; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:36:12 +0530 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:31:02 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: margarida cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfslide: manual.pdf!=demo.pdf In-Reply-To: <38E62BCF.A4FF3C7E@ime.unicamp.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, margarida wrote: m> I've download the pdfslide package and pdflatexed the file m> manual.tex. It seems that manual.pdf should coincide with the m> file demo.pdf that came with the package but it differs on m> two respects: m> m> 1) some fonts are different, for instance the font for the m> title "Indian TeX ..." is different from the one showing in m> demo.pdf and the math formulas on page 6 are all garbled (in m> fact the log file does warn about font problems) You don't have full LucidaBright fonts or its setup is not correct. pdfTeX can't find certain fonts as given in your log. You can comment out the \usepackage{lucidabr} from the demo.tex and recompile with cmr fonts so that you can ascertain that the package works without errors. Then you can repair your LucidaBright font setup to make the package work with lucida fonts. m> 2) the animation effects are not working. When I move to the m> second page "Objectives", all items show at once, with an m> orange rectangle at the end of the sentence, where the \pause m> command goes in the manual.tex file. You have to postprocess the pdf file generated by pdfTeX with Ppower4 which is available at CTAN. Ppower4 is a java postprocessor for pdf. You need to have java virtual machine installed in your system to run Ppower4. If you don't have java installed in your system, you can't run Ppower4. In that case, comment out '\pause' in the manual.tex and recompile, but be warned that the gradient backgound color will not work without postprocessing. You might need to change the color of the text fonts. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 2-Apr-2000 5:15:07-GMT,1931;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13121 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:15:06 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23003 for pdftex-list; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:16:13 -0500 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.117]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA23000 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:16:05 -0500 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01554; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:47:58 +0530 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:42:48 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: David Carlisle cc: pdftex@tug.org, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Re: Non-member submission from [Stephan Lehmke ] In-Reply-To: <200004012019.UAA16022@nag.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, David Carlisle wrote: DC> > Given below is a sample TeX file with macros for generating page DC> > colors of your choice. DC> DC> aha, thanks. DC> Unless someone tells me that that breaks all their documents then that DC> definition will find its way into the next version of pdftex.def DC> If I remember:-) David, this is just a quick and dirty trick. But I cant believe it will work with all page shapes, especially when the page dimensions go beyond normal paper sizes like a4, letter, etc. You might need to parametrize the length width stuff. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 2-Apr-2000 7:27:58-GMT,3789;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15955 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 00:27:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23874 for pdftex-list; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 01:41:43 -0500 Received: from lucia.u.arizona.edu (IDENT:mcquaid@lucia.U.Arizona.EDU [128.196.137.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23871 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 01:41:40 -0500 Received: (from mcquaid@localhost) by lucia.u.arizona.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA47452; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:41:33 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:41:33 -0700 From: Mick McQuaid To: Radhakrishnan C V Cc: margarida , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfslide: manual.pdf!=demo.pdf Message-ID: <20000401234132.C44778@U.Arizona.EDU> References: <38E62BCF.A4FF3C7E@ime.unicamp.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Radhakrishnan C V on Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 09:31:02AM +0530 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk for \pause it might work to say \newif\ifwithoutppower4 \withoutppower4true \ifwithoutppower4\let\pause=\relax\fi then the orange rectangles go away, but you can leave the \pause directives there in case you later want to use the file to do a presentation, in which case you could just say \withoutppower4false to have the file set up for postprocessing by ppower4. Or is there a better way? I find I want to have both a printable and screen version of everything I do with pdfslide and pdfscreen. ... regarding a message from Radhakrishnan C V on Apr 02: > On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, margarida wrote: > > m> I've download the pdfslide package and pdflatexed the file > m> manual.tex. It seems that manual.pdf should coincide with the > m> file demo.pdf that came with the package but it differs on > m> two respects: > m> > m> 1) some fonts are different, for instance the font for the > m> title "Indian TeX ..." is different from the one showing in > m> demo.pdf and the math formulas on page 6 are all garbled (in > m> fact the log file does warn about font problems) > > You don't have full LucidaBright fonts or its setup is not > correct. pdfTeX can't find certain fonts as given in your log. > > You can comment out the \usepackage{lucidabr} from the demo.tex > and recompile with cmr fonts so that you can ascertain that the > package works without errors. Then you can repair your > LucidaBright font setup to make the package work with lucida > fonts. > > m> 2) the animation effects are not working. When I move to the > m> second page "Objectives", all items show at once, with an > m> orange rectangle at the end of the sentence, where the \pause > m> command goes in the manual.tex file. > > You have to postprocess the pdf file generated by pdfTeX with > Ppower4 which is available at CTAN. Ppower4 is a java > postprocessor for pdf. You need to have java virtual machine > installed in your system to run Ppower4. > > If you don't have java installed in your system, you can't run > Ppower4. In that case, comment out '\pause' in the manual.tex > and recompile, but be warned that the gradient backgound color > will not work without postprocessing. You might need to change > the color of the text fonts. > > > Radhakrishnan > --------------------------------------------------------- > A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux > -- Mick McQuaid, mmcquaid@u.arizona.edu 520-621-4074 office / voice mail 2-Apr-2000 13:03:22-GMT,1681;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA20729 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 06:03:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA24634 for pdftex-list; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 07:45:49 -0400 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24631 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 07:45:47 -0400 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25555 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:44:09 +0100 Message-ID: <38E73289.51BABDA9@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 12:44:09 +0100 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfslide: manual.pdf!=demo.pdf References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Radhakrishnan C V wrote: > If you don't have java installed in your system, you can't run > Ppower4. In that case, comment out '\pause' in the manual.tex > and recompile, It should probably be mentioned the a very interesting alternative to ppower4 is texpower by Stephan Lehmke. It does all these things on TeX level, rather than by postprocessing. Although still in alpha, it worked for me quite well together with pdfslide. It can be found on http://ls1-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/~lehmke/texpower cheers, Frank 2-Apr-2000 13:45:35-GMT,1480;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21396 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 06:45:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA24733 for pdftex-list; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 08:15:49 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24730 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 08:15:48 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA15037; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:14:03 +0100 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:14:03 +0100 Message-Id: <200004021214.NAA15037@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: cvr@river-valley.com CC: pdftex@tug.org, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk In-reply-to: (message from Radhakrishnan C V on Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:42:48 +0530 (IST)) Subject: Re: Non-member submission from [Stephan Lehmke ] References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > David, this is just a quick and dirty trick. perhaps but it's probably better than the current situation of generating a low level undefined command error. If someone would like to take that code and make it work for arbitrary \paperheight/\paperwidth and send it to me ..... David 2-Apr-2000 18:18:28-GMT,1907;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27314 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:18:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25851 for pdftex-list; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:42:31 -0400 Received: from villi.usask.ca (IDENT:root@villi.usask.ca [128.233.17.87]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25848 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:42:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (ildar@localhost) by villi.usask.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28096; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:44:01 -0600 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:43:58 -0600 (CST) From: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov To: Frank Boehme cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfslide: manual.pdf!=demo.pdf In-Reply-To: <38E73289.51BABDA9@cs.ucc.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Examples look good, but it is difficult to figure out how to use it. User interface is horrible at the moment. Can you post an example how to use it with pdfslide package? Even better to have it to work with foils. On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Frank Boehme wrote: > Radhakrishnan C V wrote: > > > If you don't have java installed in your system, you can't run > > Ppower4. In that case, comment out '\pause' in the manual.tex > > and recompile, > > It should probably be mentioned the a very interesting alternative to > ppower4 is texpower by Stephan Lehmke. It does all these things on TeX > level, rather than by postprocessing. > > Although still in alpha, it worked for me quite well together with > pdfslide. > It can be found on > > http://ls1-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/~lehmke/texpower > > > cheers, > > Frank > 2-Apr-2000 18:32:52-GMT,2437;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27570 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:32:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25863 for pdftex-list; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:57:03 -0400 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25860 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:57:01 -0400 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06034; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:55:17 +0100 Message-ID: <38E78984.9D88EB7B@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 18:55:16 +0100 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfslide: manual.pdf!=demo.pdf References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ildar Khabibrakhmanov wrote: > > Examples look good, but it is difficult to figure > out how to use it. User interface is horrible at > the moment. Horrible? AFAIK, ppower4 only offers vertical incremental page built. And this is absolutely easy with texpower. Just use \pause as you used to do. Horizontal stuff is a little bit tricky, granted. The relevant part of my preamble is: \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage{type1cm} \usepackage[namelimits,intlimits]{amsmath} \usepackage[contnav]{pdfslide} \usepackage{texpower} \pagestyle{title} Using this, I found that pdfslides's page transition mechanism doesn't work anymore, but the relevant commands from texpower do work, i.e. \pageTransitionBlindsV . I didn't dive into this, since I made it working... Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 2-Apr-2000 19:42:51-GMT,7162;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28950 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:42:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26202 for pdftex-list; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 15:09:33 -0400 Received: from localgw.inet.cz (brno-l.router.inet.cz [62.229.34.226]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26199 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 15:09:31 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (dialup1.inet.cz [62.229.34.209]) by localgw.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA27057; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:15:27 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA00937; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:06:56 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: SnowWhite.inet.cz: pavel set sender to Pavel.Janik@inet.cz using -f To: pdftex@tug.org CC: Hans Hagen Subject: MP inclusion bug (the newest one) X-Operating-System: Linux 2.3.50 on Intel, Linux 2.2.10 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-Phone: +420 5 41242414 ext. 31 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. 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Date: 02 Apr 2000 21:06:40 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Lines: 106 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --=-=-= Hi, I've had already some problem with MP pics inclusion into pdfTeX and here are my traces: Document (the simplest one :-): \nopagenumbers\input supp-pdf\convertMPtoPDF{q.1}{1}{1}\bye Metapost source q.mp: beginfig(1); dotlabel.bot("a",(0,0)); endfig; end mpost q; pdftex q; acroread q.pdf gives me bug in PDF: --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pdf Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=q.pdf Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: Buggy PDF file JVBERi0xLjMKMyAwIG9iaiA8PAovTGVuZ3RoIDE0NCAgICAgICAKL0ZpbHRlciAvRmxhdGVEZWNv ZGUKPj4Kc3RyZWFtCnjaTY67DsIwDEV3f8UdYUjIo8pjRSpDJQZUb1UHRMWA6MDE79dNoCDLHo7P lW1hpCyiQwxZpxRxm+klpHKvDZK0wC8yULYA5XSTTUhQUbuUm4ifVHb2s1nlI9PhZJF1Dh58LxpP w+66H7mjlrdkDW45jzcNGA0mMTrpB8n1M63yXOYTPfV/39XnLrQAZHcq42VuZHN0cmVhbQplbmRv 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I use acroread version 3 (I do not have 4 at home :-( and pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14e-released-20000217 from latest version of teTeX-beta. supp-pdf is version=2000.02.22. label instead of dotlabel is OK. I do not have acroread 4 here so this can be bug in 3 too :-( Other info on your request. This can be `workarounded' but it is not that nice :-) Thank you for solving this. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz --=-=-=-- 3-Apr-2000 10:02:32-GMT,2489;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16640 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 04:02:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27854 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 04:36:08 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27851 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 04:36:06 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad (ipc3798ca2.dial.wxs.nl [195.121.140.162]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FSFMK403.P39; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:36:04 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000403094332.016a9df0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 09:43:32 +0200 To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: MP inclusion bug (the newest one) Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Pavel, >mpost q; pdftex q; acroread q.pdf gives me bug in PDF: Your attached pdf file indeed does not show up ok here. However, when I run the file here, things go ok. So I'm puzzled. I remember that I ran into the 'no path stoke' bordercase, but I thought I had solved it. Can you pick up the latest context from our site (since I really don't know the delay in updating ctan) and try it again? The simples test is (mptopdf is also in the distribution): pdftex -ini mptopdf and then (the \relax is needed indeed, since I use a nasty side effect of tex's choosing the output file) pdftex &mptopdf \relax yourfile.1 with yourfile.mp being: beginfig(1); dotlabel.bot("a",(0,0)); bboxmargin := 1in ; setbounds currentpicture to bbox currentpicture ; endfig; end of processed by mp. The bbox trick is needed since this graphic is < 1in and therefore sort of blows acrobat anyway. If this fails, let me know, since then we have a real problem. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Apr-2000 12:28:41-GMT,2159;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA19488 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 06:28:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA28272 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:28:44 -0400 Received: from localgw.inet.cz (brno-l.router.inet.cz [62.229.34.226]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28269 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:28:41 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (dialup8.inet.cz [62.229.34.216]) by localgw.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA11551; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 13:34:50 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA06365; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 13:26:05 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: SnowWhite.inet.cz: pavel set sender to Pavel.Janik@inet.cz using -f To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: MP inclusion bug (the newest one) References: <3.0.6.32.20000403094332.016a9df0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.3.50 on Intel, Linux 2.2.10 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-Phone: +420 5 41242414 ext. 31 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Reply-To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 03 Apr 2000 12:17:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: Hans Hagen's message of "Mon, 03 Apr 2000 09:43:32 +0200" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 13 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Hans Hagen Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 09:43:32 +0200 Hi, > Can you pick up the latest context from our site (since I really don't > know the delay in updating ctan) and try it again? of course, it works ok. From now on I will always test the latest stuff before bothering you :-)) -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz 4-Apr-2000 16:44:24-GMT,3530;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01072 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:44:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31328 for pdftex-list; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:33:13 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31325 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:33:06 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id RAA21607; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:32:31 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200004041532.RAA08893@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id RAA08893; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:32:31 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:32:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: pdfslide: manual.pdf!=demo.pdf To: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie, ildar@villi.usask.ca Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: O2QbXQM/OL6DGJMFGos5HQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:43:58 -0600 (CST), Ildar Khabibrakhmanov wrote: > > Examples look good, but it is difficult to figure > out how to use it. User interface is horrible at > the moment. *sigh* Maybe I have made this pre-release too early. The problem is, I'm doing this in my spare time. I've been working on the package on and off since Oct. 1999, and especially this year there were a couple of questions which could have been answered by TeXPower, so I was eager to announce it. I thought I'd get some feedback so I could take the needs of users into consideration and have some motivation for speeding up the development. If I'd have delayed the release until thorough testing was done, it might have taken another half year. But maybe you could help me make the user interface better. The following is a simple example of a formula which is built step by step: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{texpower} \begin{document} \parstepwise {% \begin{displaymath} \sum_{\step{i=1}}^{\step{n}} i \step{{} = n \left(\frac{\step{n-1}}{\step{2}}\right)} \end{displaymath} } \end{document} Maybe you could write it down the way you would have denoted it, and I could try to implement the commands needed for the user interface you're looking for? One serious problem is: As far as I know, it is impossible to implement the functionality of PPower4 just by means of LaTeX, with the same user interface (otherwise, the postprocessor would be useless, wouldn't it?), so there will always be a migration effort for PPower4 users. But OTOH, the user interface of TeXPower offers some functionality beyond what can be done with PPower4. > Can you post an example how to use it with > pdfslide package? Just add \usepackage{pdfslide} before \usepackage{texpower} in the example above. > Even better to have it to work > with foils. Just replace article by foils in the example above. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 4-Apr-2000 20:40:09-GMT,2223;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07816 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:40:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA31896 for pdftex-list; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:56:33 -0400 Received: from villi.usask.ca (IDENT:root@villi.usask.ca [128.233.17.87]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA31893 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:56:28 -0400 Received: from localhost (ildar@localhost) by villi.usask.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24412; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:58:26 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:58:26 -0600 (CST) From: Ildar Khabibrakhmanov To: Stephan Lehmke cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfslide: manual.pdf!=demo.pdf In-Reply-To: <200004041532.RAA08893@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I apologize for "horrible". What I really had in mind was that: as I looked at doc section, where I am supposed to learn how to use the package, I have seen __TP* files and had impression that I have to do similar things! Now I see that just inclusion of the package makes it work nicely with pdfslides and foils. No problems at all, just my misunderstanding. Good work! I do not complain about LaTeX commands. You know how they should be implemented, all we (users) need now is a documentation file and some real examples, I mean just a LaTeX files, not something you are using for testing the package. One thing is need very much. An option to be able to print whole document on the printer. Of course the package is aimed for screen, but nevertheless I also want a printed version sometime. Is it difficult to introduce an option under which all intermediate pages will not be produced? For instance, documentaion file is VERY difficult to read when printed. No page numbers, landscaped, large font, and plus all this unnecessary pages. Thank you for a nice package and great job. Sincerely Ildar 5-Apr-2000 9:30:40-GMT,1448;000000000011 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA25721 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 03:30:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA01265 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:39:55 -0400 Received: from www2.gmx.net (www.gmx.net [194.221.183.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA01262 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:39:52 -0400 From: mgis@gmx.de Received: (qmail 27489 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2000 08:39:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:39:51 +0200 (MEST) To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Is there something like de-pdftex / pdf-2-tex X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001578616@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [130.75.71.64] Message-ID: <27383.954923991@www2.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hallo i am looking for a thing that converts pdf-files into tex-files, the original-file was probably written in tex. Thank you very much in advance off-topic ( sorry for this newbe question :o) ): And by the way i don´t know it exactly, but is there something like ps2tex, so making tex of ps. And if it exist, can you tell me where i can get it ? -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net 5-Apr-2000 11:47:58-GMT,6148;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28269 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 05:47:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA01620 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:57:13 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01617 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:57:10 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id MAA09520; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:56:39 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200004051056.MAA19339@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id MAA19339; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:56:38 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:56:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: pdfslide: manual.pdf!=demo.pdf To: ross@ics.mq.edu.au Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 0nIFdRLXBHLL1+e3LkD08A== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ross Moore wrote on Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:17:41 +1000 (EST): (I'm forwarding the answers to the questions about usage to the pdftex list, as I think this kind of discussion can help raising interest in TeXPower; I hope this is in order.) [me:] > > But maybe you could help me make the user interface better. > > > One thing (well two, actually), that I'd really like is to have > material appearing in several different places at the same \step > within a formula/table/diagram constructed using a sequence of > \step s. If the \step commands are adjacent, you can use the \restep command for this. For example, in \parstepwise {% \begin{displaymath} \sum_{\step{i=1}}^{\restep{n}} i \step{{} = n \left(\frac{\step{n-1}}{\restep{2}}\right)} \end{displaymath} } the limits and both parts of the fraction each appear at once. > > This could be done using an optional argument to step. > > e.g. \step[4]{.....}\step[2]{.....}...\step[2]{....} > > would mean that the \step[2]{....} items all appear at > the 2nd \step, and remain for all subsequent steps, > whereas the \step[4]{...} does not appear until later. \step already has an optional argument which does exactly this, but with a slightly different semantics. It accepts an arbitrary condition in ifthenelse syntax, to give the user more flexibility. Your example would thus look like \step[\value{step}=4]{.....}% \step[\value{step}=2]{.....}...\step[\value{step}=2]{....} In fact, the `paragraph example' from the demo looks like this: We can \step{create} a \step{fill-in-the-blanks} \step[\value{step}=5]{text} which is then \step[\value{step}=4]{filled} in in \step[\value{step}=3]{\textbf{any}} order! In fact, I had originally implemented the optional argument in the syntax you have used, but then found it too restrictive. But maybe the new syntax will discourage users? Indeed, in all my examples so far, the optional argument is used in the form \step[\value{step}=n] so maybe the additional flexibility is not needed? > > Secondly, can we have material that appears *only* at a > particular step in the sequence, and is otherwise omitted > altogether. \step takes a second optional argument for exactly this purpose. The first one says when it should appear first, the second says when it should appear at all. So by defining \newcommand{\once}{\step[][\value{step}=\value{stepcommand}]} you get a command which should do what you want. Try \parstepwise {% \hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\once{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{ \fill} \hspace*{\fill}\once{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill} \hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\once{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill} \once{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill} \hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\once{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill} \hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\once{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{ \fill} } With this application in mind, I have just extended the scope of the boolean switch firstactivation (which indicates whether this step is just being executed for the first time) to the second optional argument of \step. So, after the next update, you can say \newcommand{\once}[1][]{\step[#1][\boolean{firstactivation}]} and then \parstepwise {% \hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\once[\value{step}=3]{BOO!}\hspace* {\fill}\hspace*{\fill} \hspace*{\fill}\once[\value{step}=4]{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace* {\fill} \hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\once[\value{step}=1]{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill} \once[\value{step}=5]{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill} \hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\once[\value{step}=3]{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace* {\fill} \hspace*{\fill}\hspace*{\fill}\once[\value{step}=2]{BOO!}\hspace*{\fill}\hspace* {\fill}\hspace*{\fill} } will work as expected. (See, this is one meaningful use of the \ifthenelse syntax for the optional argument :-) > Possible notation is \step*[]{....} , I hesitate to overload \step even more... If at all, I'll reserve the starred form for the `catcode-safe' version. > or \skipifnotstep{}{....} . How do you like \once? If you see potential interest in this variant, I'll put it into texpower.sty. I'm not sure whether it makes sense to define too many variants of step in texpower.sty as long as it is so easy for the end user to define their own. Or do you think the average user won't be able (after reading the respective parts of the documentation and looking at the examples) to come up with this definition for \once? regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 5-Apr-2000 11:48:39-GMT,1544;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28285 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 05:48:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA01664 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:12:23 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01661 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:12:21 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12cnjQ-00073w-00; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 12:12:20 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12cnjP-0007B2-00; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 12:12:20 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14571.8082.577059.855290@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:12:18 +0100 (BST) To: mgis@gmx.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Is there something like de-pdftex / pdf-2-tex In-Reply-To: <27383.954923991@www2.gmx.net> References: <27383.954923991@www2.gmx.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk No such animal exists, that I know of. There are PDF to HTML programs around on the web, which might help Ghostscript can do pdf/ps to *text*, but I expect you want structure... sebastian 5-Apr-2000 12:46:23-GMT,1788;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29497 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:46:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01875 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:04:45 -0400 Received: from juggernaut.eti.pg.gda.pl (root@juggernaut.eti.pg.gda.pl [153.19.48.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01872 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:04:33 -0400 Received: from pg.gda.pl (olin.eti.pg.gda.pl [153.19.48.90]) by juggernaut.eti.pg.gda.pl (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20922 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:04:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <38EB2BCD.A7011B42@pg.gda.pl> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 14:04:29 +0200 From: Marcin Neyman Organization: TUG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdftex@tug.org" Subject: Including MetaPost graphics in a pdf document Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear TeXperts I have a problem including MetaPost graphics in a document compiled with pdfLaTeX. I get the following error message: ! LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in cir.mps (no BoundingBox). When I continue I get even more error messages. I use \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} in the preamble and include pictures with \includegraphics{picture.mps}. Am I doing this wrong or have I to configure my environment? I use standard teTeX distribution from Debian "slink". Sorry for asking a FAQ, but in the pdfTteX-FAQ the section "How can I use MetaPost in pdfTeX?" is empty. Marcin Neyman 5-Apr-2000 12:09:56-GMT,3032;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28754; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:09:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA21507; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:09:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:09:55 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: mgis@gmx.de, pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: Is there something like de-pdftex / pdf-2-tex In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:39:51 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: mgis@gmx.de writes on Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:39:51 +0200 (MEST): >> Hallo i am looking for a thing that converts pdf-files into tex-files, >> the original-file was probably written in tex. There is no such beast, any more than there is for recovery of useful source code from compiled object code or linked executables, or answering the question: I'm thinking of two numbers whose sum is 7; what are the numbers? There is an noninvertible many-to-one mapping going on. TeX is an input markup language; PostScript and PDF are page description languages. While it COULD have been possible for TeX (and all other document formatting systems) to preserve all of its markup in its output, and the desire to do so has been repeatedly voiced, they do not. Your best bet is to recover ASCII text from the PDF file, and then manually add markup to convert that to TeX form. One possibility for this job is pdftotext, from the xpdf distribution at http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ ftp://ftp.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/ ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/graphics/viewers/X Another is to use a PDF viewer (recent gv, or Adobe Acrobat Reader or Exchange (acroread or acroexch), or xpdf), save the file to PostScript, and then use ps2ascii (from recent ghostscript distributions: ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs601/ ) or the excellent pstotext, available at http://www.research.digital.com/SRC/virtualpaper/pstotext.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Apr-2000 13:03:30-GMT,3566;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29832 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:03:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01886 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:10:04 -0400 Received: from csc-sun.math.utah.edu (root@csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01883 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:10:02 -0400 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28754; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:09:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA21507; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:09:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:09:55 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: mgis@gmx.de, pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: Is there something like de-pdftex / pdf-2-tex In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:39:51 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk mgis@gmx.de writes on Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:39:51 +0200 (MEST): >> Hallo i am looking for a thing that converts pdf-files into tex-files, >> the original-file was probably written in tex. There is no such beast, any more than there is for recovery of useful source code from compiled object code or linked executables, or answering the question: I'm thinking of two numbers whose sum is 7; what are the numbers? There is an noninvertible many-to-one mapping going on. TeX is an input markup language; PostScript and PDF are page description languages. While it COULD have been possible for TeX (and all other document formatting systems) to preserve all of its markup in its output, and the desire to do so has been repeatedly voiced, they do not. Your best bet is to recover ASCII text from the PDF file, and then manually add markup to convert that to TeX form. One possibility for this job is pdftotext, from the xpdf distribution at http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ ftp://ftp.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/ ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/graphics/viewers/X Another is to use a PDF viewer (recent gv, or Adobe Acrobat Reader or Exchange (acroread or acroexch), or xpdf), save the file to PostScript, and then use ps2ascii (from recent ghostscript distributions: ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs601/ ) or the excellent pstotext, available at http://www.research.digital.com/SRC/virtualpaper/pstotext.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Apr-2000 14:27:58-GMT,3505;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01856 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:27:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02178 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:06:15 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02175 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:06:13 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id PAA12559; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:05:42 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200004051305.PAA19482@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id PAA19482; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:05:42 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:05:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: pdfslide: manual.pdf!=demo.pdf To: ildar@villi.usask.ca Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: N172pbxk90VQhD3giAfAwg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:58:26 -0600 (CST), Ildar Khabibrakhmanov wrote: > > I apologize for "horrible". *phew* :-) > What I really had in mind was that: > as I looked at doc section, where > I am supposed to learn how to use the package, I have seen > __TP* files and had impression that I have to do > similar things! Well, it is not uncommon to split LaTeX source for a document into several files. The strange file names are only to keep people from running LaTeX on files they're not supposed to... > You know how they should be implemented, all > we (users) need now is a documentation file and some > real examples, I mean just a LaTeX files, not > something you are using for testing the package. Er, I have to admit the current examples are maybe a little too complicated. They are to demonstrate the extent of the functionality, but probably they're not very well suited for making the first steps with TeXPower. I'm currently working on the next (minor) update, and I'll include a simple demo which is hopefully easier to understand. For the next-plus-one update, I'll make simple demos for most of the common presentation document classes (slides, foils, pdfslide, pp4slide, forgot any?) > One thing is need very much. An option to > be able to print whole document on the printer. Very true. > Of course the package is aimed for screen, > but nevertheless I also want a printed version > sometime. Is it difficult to introduce an option > under which all intermediate pages will not be > produced? The next update, which is to appear by the end of this or the beginning of next week, will introduce an option to do exactly that. > For instance, documentaion file is VERY difficult > to read when printed. No page numbers, landscaped, > large font, and plus all this unnecessary pages. Thanks for the tip. I'll change the settings for the file texpower-doc in the next update. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 5-Apr-2000 14:58:43-GMT,1708;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02742 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02664 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:08:05 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02655 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:07:34 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id QAA29232; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:01:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id QAA27321; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:15:26 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:15:26 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200004051415.QAA27321@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: mgis@gmx.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Is there something like de-pdftex / pdf-2-tex In-Reply-To: <14571.8082.577059.855290@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <27383.954923991@www2.gmx.net> <14571.8082.577059.855290@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk but how could you _guess_ the very structure of any doc from a PDF? unless you already know the style sheet used (font sizes/families for titles, etc.) or from anchor points names? 5-Apr-2000 15:21:56-GMT,1873;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03429 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:21:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02826 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:38:23 -0400 Received: from mail.geo.ucalgary.ca (IDENT:root@mail.geo.ucalgary.ca [136.159.91.23]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02823 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:38:20 -0400 Received: from margrave (Margrave.geo.ucalgary.ca [136.159.91.140]) by mail.geo.ucalgary.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA25755 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:44:28 -0600 From: "Gary Margrave" To: Subject: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:38:05 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello I'm struggling with the issue of how to make figures for inclusion in my book which I'm writing with pdfTeX. I'm on a PC using Canvas for the graphics and I had hoped to use the TeX math fonts from within Canvas but I cannot yet "find" them. One user advised me to use "psfrag" instead but I find that this package is designed for use with eps graphics only, which pdfTeX cannot use. Does anyone have some advice for me? I would hate to abandon pdfTeX at this point because it has so many powerful features. Gary Margrave Assoc. Prof Geology and Geophysics The University of Calgary, Canada 5-Apr-2000 16:43:26-GMT,1757;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05812 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:43:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03293 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:43:56 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03290 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:43:54 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12cry8-0001GV-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:43:48 +0100 Received: from max78.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.78] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12cry8-0000lD-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:43:48 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:38:58 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re Non-member submission from [Skip Collins ] In-Reply-To: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > For several years I have wanted to find a way to preserve my original TeX > sources in whatever final output I produce. aren't you glad that the world has invented XML and friends for you, to make documentation preservation easier? sebastian 5-Apr-2000 16:44:52-GMT,2657;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05861 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:44:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03288 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:43:47 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03285 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:43:44 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12cry2-0005ae-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:43:42 +0100 Received: from max78.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.78] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12cry1-0000ov-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:43:41 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14571.24020.586144.407421@localhost.localdomain> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:37:56 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Non-member submission from [Skip Collins ] In-Reply-To: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > No such animal exists, that I know of. There are PDF to HTML programs > around on the web, which might help > > Ghostscript can do pdf/ps to *text*, but I expect you want > structure... For several years I have wanted to find a way to preserve my original TeX sources in whatever final output I produce. I have done nothing to accomplish this goal except hope that someone else would see the benefit and do the work. The main problem, it seems to me, is defining what a TeX/LaTeX document is. For LaTeX, the problem is somewhat contained, but not by much. One would have to preserve all user indluded files. One could, presumably, leave out all files from the LaTeX standard distribution. But should one include all non-standard package files? PDF files include graphics and fonts. So perhaps they could be extracted in near original form. I would be happy with a LaTeX package that included my top-level document and any user included files in comments in the output dvi or pdf file. Of course, having a tool that could extract these files from the resulting pdf file would be just peachy. Skip 5-Apr-2000 17:02:46-GMT,5324;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06400 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:02:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03303 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:45:20 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03300 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:45:18 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id RAA16890; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:44:37 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200004051544.RAA19696@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id RAA19696; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:44:37 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:44:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: Non-member submission from [Stephan Lehmke ] To: cvr@river-valley.com, davidc@nag.co.uk Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: npcixMCHxNFT2xYZdIgE/w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:14:03 +0100, David Carlisle wrote: > > > David, this is just a quick and dirty trick. > > perhaps but it's probably better than the current situation of > generating a low level undefined command error. > > If someone would like to take that code and make it work for > arbitrary \paperheight/\paperwidth and send it to me ..... By trial and error, I found the following code which I'll include in TeXPower until a final solution has made it into pdftex.def \newlength{\pdfvextent} \newlength{\pdfhextent} \def\set@page@color {% \global\let\current@page@color@TP\current@color% Save color setting for later use. \global\let\orig@begindvi@TP\@begindvi% \@begindvi is defined by several parties. \gdef\@begindvi@TP% Our own definition of \@begindvi {% \orig@begindvi@TP% Whatever \@begindvi used to mean. \setlength{\pdfvextent}{\pdfpageheight}% \addtolength{\pdfvextent}{\pdfvorigin}% \setlength{\pdfhextent}{\pdfpagewidth}% \addtolength{\pdfhextent}{\pdfhorigin}% \pdfliteral{q \current@page@color@TP\space 1 i -\strip@pt\pdfhorigin\space -\strip@pt\pdfpageheight\space \strip@pt\pdfhextent\space \strip@pt\pdfvextent\space re f Q}% That's the magic part. \set@color% Do we really need this? Otherwise the global text color setting % doesn't seem to work with seminar. \ifx\@begindvi\@begindvi@TP% It seems to be a custom (*yuck*) to \global\let \@begindvi to % something else _within_ \@begindvi... So we check whether % \@begindvi still means what _we_ wish it to mean. \else% No. \global\let\orig@begindvi@TP\@begindvi% Save the new definition... \global\let\@begindvi\@begindvi@TP% ... and restore our own definition. \fi }% \global\let\@begindvi\@begindvi@TP% Takeover of \@begindvi completed. }% There are three points to note: 1) The size of the which is created by \pdfliteral is calculated from the lengths \pdfpageheight, \pdfpagewidth, \pdfvorigin, \pdfhorigin. For this, they have to be set to meaningful values (especially \pdfvorigin and \pdfhorigin seem to be 0pt most of the time, which apparently makes pdftex use default values). As I need to set these values anyway for compatibility with seminar, this is no problem for TeXPower, but it might fail in other cases. I don't know the semantics of the magic thingie inside the argument of \pdfliteral, so maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I tested it with several document classes and paper sizes up to DIN A0, without problems. 2) Radhakrishnan C V ' s solution overwrites \@begindvi, which probably breaks hyperref, which also needs to put something into \@begindvi. I'm trying my best to add the new code to whatever others like to put into \@begindvi, but I'm not sure whether this will work in all cases. What is this about \global\let\@begindvi=, anyway? Seems to me like asking for trouble. 3) I smuggled in a \set@color. Otherwise, setting a `global' text color with \color breaks at the beginning of every new slide with seminar (only with pdflatex). Probably nobody noticed this before because running pdflatex on documents created with seminar used to lead to wrong page dimensions. Maybe there is a better way to remedy this, but I don't know how. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 5-Apr-2000 17:28:45-GMT,2111;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07214 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:28:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03681 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:41:55 -0400 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03675 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:41:49 -0400 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13619; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:40:03 +0100 Message-ID: <38EB6C63.42BDDAAD@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:40:03 +0100 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Margrave CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Gary Margrave wrote: > I'm on a PC using Canvas for the > graphics I don't know canvas. You didn't say which operating system you are running (sadly, this almost always implies that he means WinXX). > One user advised me to use "psfrag" instead but I > find that this package is designed for use with eps graphics only, which > pdfTeX cannot use. To my knowledge, you CAN use psfrag with pdftex and gs6.0 or later. epstopdf will alleviate the task. You should be able to embed TeX fonts as type 1, following this route. Alternatively, you could use overpic.sty. My own solution is to use tgif as the drawing program. It has a nice mechanism to include TeX formulas (yes, it works with dvips -E). Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 5-Apr-2000 18:13:54-GMT,2282;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08624 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:13:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03895 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:11:43 -0400 Received: from eiismtp.electricimg.com (electricimg.com [199.35.234.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03892 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:11:40 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (ip81.electricimg.com [199.35.234.81] (may be forged)) by eiismtp.electricimg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09326; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:18:54 -0700 Message-ID: <38EB7337.C9F7A03D@csee.usf.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 10:09:11 -0700 From: Himanshu Gohel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Margrave CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Gary > book which I'm writing with pdfTeX. I'm on a PC using Canvas for the > graphics and I had hoped to use the TeX math fonts from within Canvas > but I cannot yet "find" them. If the fonts are the only factor, I would try to pursue that further to find a way to make Canvas find the fonts. Perhaps if you post details (wherever appropriate) someone more knowledgeable can help. > One user advised me to use "psfrag" instead but I > find that this package is designed for use with eps graphics only, which > pdfTeX cannot use. EPS graphics a not totally out of the question. You can use EPSTOPDF (you can find the script on the TUG site from the PDFTeX page if I remember correctly). I used that extensively to produce my dissertation. There are some downsides (such as size of PDF file depends on the kind of code in the EPS files...sometimes few Kb EPS produces 100s Kb to Mb of PDF), but it worked very well for me. Oh, and since you're on a PC, you'll have to install PERL and GHOSTSCRIPT to make EPSTOPDF work... Himanshu Gohel, gohel@csee.usf.edu 5-Apr-2000 18:17:21-GMT,2005;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08762 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:17:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04205 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:34:01 -0400 Received: from houston.jhuapl.edu (houston.jhuapl.edu [128.244.26.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04201 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:33:58 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) id <0FSK00A010RNW1@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stxmslab1 (stx-mslab1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.27.177]) by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) with SMTP id <0FSK008CQ0RIBI@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:33:18 -0400 From: Skip Collins Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [Skip Collins] To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > For several years I have wanted to find a way to preserve my original TeX > > sources in whatever final output I produce. > > aren't you glad that the world has invented XML and friends for you, > to make documentation preservation easier? I wasn't aware that current XML->TeX->PDF tools preserved the original XML information in the final PDF document. This is truly marvelous! Skip 5-Apr-2000 19:46:44-GMT,2535;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11612 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:46:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05002 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:38:14 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04999 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:38:08 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA25592; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:38:06 -0400 (EDT) To: "Gary Margrave" Cc: Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex References: From: Ed L Cashin Date: 05 Apr 2000 14:38:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Gary Margrave"'s message of "Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:38:05 -0600" Message-ID: Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Gary Margrave writes: > Hello > I'm struggling with the issue of how to make figures for > inclusion in my book which I'm writing with pdfTeX. I'm on a PC > using Canvas for the graphics and I had hoped to use the TeX math > fonts from within Canvas but I cannot yet "find" them. One user > advised me to use "psfrag" instead but I find that this package is > designed for use with eps graphics only, which pdfTeX cannot use. > > Does anyone have some advice for me? I would hate to abandon pdfTeX > at this point because it has so many powerful features. MetaPost is a great solution for graphics. I find it a more general, portable, and powerful solution than the other PostScript-only graphics tools I've used. Hans Hagen has written some macros for using MetaPost figures in TeX code. More info: http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/hobby/MetaPost.html Short story: It's a programming language based on MetaFont, but it's very easy to learn quickly. It allows you to do pretty much anything that PostScript can do, and you can even call TeX from within your MetaFont code, so it's really good at mixing text and graphics. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 5-Apr-2000 20:13:46-GMT,1486;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12403 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:13:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05173 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:52:15 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05169 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:52:09 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id TAA14788; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:51:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:51:36 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: collibf1@jhuapl.edu CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> (message from Skip Collins on Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:33:18 -0400) Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [Skip Collins] References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I wasn't aware that current XML->TeX->PDF tools preserved the original XML > information in the final PDF document. This is truly marvelous! If you just want the whole document, rather than close linking of text in the presentation back to its position in the source, what's wrong with tar or zip? David 5-Apr-2000 20:22:07-GMT,2883;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12732 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:22:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05567 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:32:07 -0400 Received: from mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu (mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu [128.146.214.32]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05563 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:32:06 -0400 Received: from pviton (pviton.crp.ohio-state.edu [128.146.236.202]) by mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA11225 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20000405153201.00914bf0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: pviton@pop.service.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:32:01 -0400 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "Philip A. Viton" Subject: Re: TeX ttf fonts + Canvas In-Reply-To: <38EB6C63.42BDDAAD@cs.ucc.ie> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have an old version of canvas (3.53 for Win 31) installed on win nt4, plus the true-type fonts from Kinch's truetex, and I can put cmsy10 characters onto a Canvas drawing. It's a bit involved because of the encoding vector, but it's do-able. They print OK, too. Since there are free ttf versions of the TeX fonts (at least cm) available, you should be able to do this with them, too. Just be sure to install the fonts to Windows, or else Canvas won't allow you to select them when you use the text tool. At 05:40 PM 4/5/00 +0100, you wrote: >Gary Margrave wrote: > >> I'm on a PC using Canvas for the >> graphics > >I don't know canvas. You didn't say which operating system you are >running (sadly, this almost always implies that he means WinXX). > >> One user advised me to use "psfrag" instead but I >> find that this package is designed for use with eps graphics only, which >> pdfTeX cannot use. > >To my knowledge, you CAN use psfrag with pdftex and gs6.0 or later. >epstopdf will alleviate the task. You should be able to embed TeX fonts >as type 1, following this route. > >Alternatively, you could use overpic.sty. My own solution is to use tgif >as the drawing program. It has a nice mechanism to include TeX formulas >(yes, it works with dvips -E). > >Frank > >-- >Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie >National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 >Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 >Cork, Ireland | > > Philip A. Viton ------------------ City Planning, Ohio State University viton.1@osu.edu 5-Apr-2000 20:26:30-GMT,2933;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12869 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05601 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:34:10 -0400 Received: from gwdu42.gwdg.de (root@gwdu42.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05596 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:34:06 -0400 Received: from gwdu20.gwdg.de ([134.76.98.2] ident=dweiss1) by gwdu42.gwdg.de with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12cvYy-0008FF-00; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:34:04 +0200 Received: from localhost by gwdu20.gwdg.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/11Feb98-0154PM) id AA01135; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:33:58 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:33:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Daniel Weiss To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: Gary Margrave Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex In-Reply-To: <38EB7337.C9F7A03D@csee.usf.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Himanshu Gohel wrote: > Hi Gary > > > book which I'm writing with pdfTeX. I'm on a PC using Canvas for the > > graphics and I had hoped to use the TeX math fonts from within Canvas > > but I cannot yet "find" them. > > If the fonts are the only factor, I would try to pursue that further > to find a way to make Canvas find the fonts. Perhaps if you post > details (wherever appropriate) someone more knowledgeable can help. > > > One user advised me to use "psfrag" instead but I > > find that this package is designed for use with eps graphics only, which > > pdfTeX cannot use. > > EPS graphics a not totally out of the question. You can use EPSTOPDF > (you can find the script on the TUG site from the PDFTeX page if > I remember correctly). I used that extensively to produce my > dissertation. There are some downsides (such as size of PDF file > depends on the kind of code in the EPS files...sometimes few Kb EPS > produces 100s Kb to Mb of PDF), but it worked very well for me. > > Oh, and since you're on a PC, you'll have to install PERL and > GHOSTSCRIPT to make EPSTOPDF work... if you're under winxx, there's a binary of epstopdf at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ you still need ghostscript, of course > > Himanshu Gohel, gohel@csee.usf.edu > Daniel Weiss tel: +49 551 399431 Institute for X-Ray Physics (IRP) fax: +49 551 399430 University Georgia Augusta at Goettingen email: Daniel.Weiss@ Geiststrasse 11, 37073 Goettingen, Germany phys.uni-goettingen.de PGP public key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x3D3E57B9&fingerprint=on (fingerprint: F0 4C B3 27 0E 36 08 C0 54 A7 73 DD ED 52 B0 9B) 5-Apr-2000 20:30:21-GMT,2217;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13006 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 14:30:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05479 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:18:37 -0400 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05427 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:12:51 -0400 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14324 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:10:48 +0100 Message-ID: <38EB8FB8.2B3A6B36@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 20:10:48 +0100 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex References: <38EB7337.C9F7A03D@csee.usf.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Himanshu Gohel wrote: > EPS graphics a not totally out of the question. You can use EPSTOPDF > (you can find the script on the TUG site from the PDFTeX page if > I remember correctly). I used that extensively to produce my > dissertation. There are some downsides (such as size of PDF file > depends on the kind of code in the EPS files...sometimes few Kb EPS > produces 100s Kb to Mb of PDF), but it worked very well for me. I believe eps files will ownly blow up if they contain bitmap graphics which had previously been converted to eps. This is anyway a situation which should be avoided in favour of direct inclusion of png, for example. If the eps file contains postscript program code only, then gs reduces the size of the resulting pdf to about 60%. At least, that's my experience. Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 5-Apr-2000 21:01:33-GMT,2320;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14050 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06059 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:21:18 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06055 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:21:16 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12cwIS-00030D-00; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:21:04 +0100 Received: from max29.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.29] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12cwIR-0003X2-00; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:21:03 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14571.35005.405832.604752@localhost.localdomain> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:41:01 +0100 (BST) To: gary@geo.ucalgary.ca Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Gary Margrave writes: >I'm struggling with the issue of how to make figures for inclusion in my > book which I'm writing with pdfTeX. I'm on a PC using Canvas for the > graphics well, I suppose the first recommendation is "don't use Canvas". will that do? > One user advised me to use "psfrag" instead but I > find that this package is designed for use with eps graphics only, which > pdfTeX cannot use. you could make the pictures as separate TeX documents, using psfrag, pstricks or whatever, run them in the combined form to EPS, then convert EPS to PDF for inclusion in the main book. It sounds clumsy, but it would work, and you could hide it all in a Makefile Its been a long while since I drew a picture in a drawing program. Have you considered the TeX-based approach to pictures? sebastian 5-Apr-2000 21:06:46-GMT,1963;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14196 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:06:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06137 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:25:27 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06134 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:25:20 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12cwIq-0001Dg-00; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:21:28 +0100 Received: from max29.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.29] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12cwIp-0007Xn-00; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:21:27 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14571.40382.593019.974178@localhost.localdomain> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:10:38 +0100 (BST) To: collibf1@jhuapl.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [Skip Collins] In-Reply-To: <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Skip Collins writes: > > aren't you glad that the world has invented XML and friends for you, > > to make documentation preservation easier? > > I wasn't aware that current XML->TeX->PDF tools preserved the original XML > information in the final PDF document. This is truly marvelous! > irony from .edu addresses is a new phenomenon, too sebastian 5-Apr-2000 21:20:25-GMT,4298;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14591 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:20:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06049 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:20:50 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06046 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:20:48 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12cwI9-0001Cz-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:20:45 +0100 Received: from max29.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.29] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12cwI7-0007gt-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:20:43 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: forwarded message Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14571.34300.744050.479955@localhost.localdomain> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:29:16 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: forwarded message from owner-pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Return-path: Envelope-to: rahtz@ermine.ox.ac.uk Delivery-date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:55:30 +0100 Received: from dns0.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.1] helo=oxmail.ox.ac.uk) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12ct5W-0004ux-00 for rahtz@ermine.ox.ac.uk; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:55:30 +0100 Received: from tug.org ([158.121.106.10] ident=root) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12ct5W-0003bu-00 for sebastian.rahtz@oucs.ox.ac.uk; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:55:30 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03768; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:55:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200004051655.MAA03768@tug.org> From: owner-pdftex@tug.org To: owner-pdftex@tug.org Subject: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [Amit Mehrotra ] Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:55:27 -0400 >From sebastian.rahtz Wed Apr 5 12:55:26 2000 Received: from uivlsi.csl.uiuc.edu (uivlsi.csl.uiuc.edu [130.126.137.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03764 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:55:21 -0400 Received: from vlsisrv1.csl.uiuc.edu (vlsisrv1.csl.uiuc.edu [130.126.138.16]) by uivlsi.csl.uiuc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26548 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:54:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Amit Mehrotra Received: (from amehrotr@localhost) by vlsisrv1.csl.uiuc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02849 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:54:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200004051654.LAA02849@vlsisrv1.csl.uiuc.edu> Subject: suggestion regarding incremetal figure building suitable for texpower/ppower4 To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:54:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit \greetings{fellow pdftex users}, I have been very impressed with the capabilities of ppower4 and texpower to incrementally show things on slides. However, I am seeking suggestions about incrementally building up figures. In the good old days of static projections, I never bothered to learn about the LaTeX2e's picture environment because I included eps files generated by other programs. Xfig was used to draw all the figures. Now I am getting greedy and want figures to build up incrementally in the slides. I thought of using xfig to export the figure to LaTeX2e's pictures and manually putting \pause's in it but the utility generates absolutely horrible figures. Is there a better way to convert xfig figures (or any other figure drawing facility under Unix) to LaTeX pictures which is better? Or is there a better way (compared to trial and error) to align several small pdfs that I could possibly generate by splitting a larger figure into smaller files? This way I could interleave \pause's between successive inclusions of the figures. \thanks, \signature{Amit} 5-Apr-2000 23:01:24-GMT,2659;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17388 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:01:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07509 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:04:23 -0400 Received: from houston.jhuapl.edu (houston.jhuapl.edu [128.244.26.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07506 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:04:22 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) id <0FSK00H01DB1LB@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stxmslab1 (stx-mslab1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.27.177]) by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) with SMTP id <0FSK00G49DAW3I@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 18:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 18:04:07 -0400 From: Skip Collins Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [SkipCollins] To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk David Carlisle wrote: >> I wasn't aware that current XML->TeX->PDF tools preserved the original XML >> information in the final PDF document. This is truly marvelous! > > If you just want the whole document, rather than close linking of text > in the presentation back to its position in the source, what's wrong > with tar or zip? There are situations where one would like to distribute a standalone, formatted document (i.e. pdf) and allow unknown users to access and modify the source to generate their own version. Using tar or zip to package the xml, tex and pdf files together is currently the only option. But I would like to know that whoever gets my redistributed pdf file could, with a little digging, extract the original marked up content. Surely you can see some benefit to having a self-contained, "indivisible" document in which all of the information needed to regenerate itself is embedded? This just adds another meaning to the "P" in PDF. Skip 5-Apr-2000 23:13:44-GMT,2180;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17718 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:13:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07778 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:26:48 -0400 Received: from houston.jhuapl.edu (houston.jhuapl.edu [128.244.26.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07775 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:26:47 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) id <0FSK00J01ECIS0@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stxmslab1 (stx-mslab1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.27.177]) by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) with SMTP id <0FSK00GGGECC3I@houston.jhuapl.edu>; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 18:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 18:26:36 -0400 From: Skip Collins Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [SkipCollins] To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <00b001bf9f4e$0451d300$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <14571.40382.593019.974178@localhost.localdomain> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: >> I wasn't aware that current XML->TeX->PDF tools preserved the original XML >> information in the final PDF document. This is truly marvelous! > > irony from .edu addresses is a new phenomenon, too It's part of the job description. After years of leeching off of other people's generous contributions you whine like a snotty little ingrate when something isn't exactly the way you want. Skip 5-Apr-2000 23:51:34-GMT,2745;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18646 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:51:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08073 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:49:51 -0400 Received: from tamarama.stanford.edu (tamarama.Stanford.EDU [171.64.245.11]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08070 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:49:49 -0400 Received: from localhost (simon@localhost) by tamarama.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22265; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:49:41 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: tamarama.stanford.edu: simon owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:49:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Jackman X-Sender: simon@tamarama.stanford.edu To: Sebastian Rahtz cc: gary@geo.ucalgary.ca, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex In-Reply-To: <14571.35005.405832.604752@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk SR> > One user advised me to use "psfrag" instead but I SR> > find that this package is designed for use with eps graphics only, which SR> > pdfTeX cannot use. SR> SR> you could make the pictures as separate TeX documents, using psfrag, SR> pstricks or whatever, run them in the combined form to EPS, then SR> convert EPS to PDF for inclusion in the main book. It sounds clumsy, SR> but it would work, and you could hide it all in a Makefile yes I've done this, and it is very clumsy. e.g., 1. Splus produces Postscript; yields .ps/.eps 2. enhance by running through psfrag via LaTeX; yields .dvi 3. dvips, to create a one page "document", per graph; yields .ps 4. epstopdf; yields .pdf 5. pdflatex; yields pdf figure in pdf document this is ugly, and some tinkering is required to ensure that the final graph isn't tiny and/or uncentered SR> Its been a long while since I drew a picture in a drawing SR> program. Have you considered the TeX-based approach to pictures? yes, but its tough for me to imagine drawing a statistical graph in anything other than Splus or R. cheers -- simon Simon Jackman, Asst Professor, ph: +1 (650) 723-4760 Dept of Political Science, fax: +1 (650) 723-1808 455 Serra Mall, Bldg 160, jackman@stanford.edu Stanford University, http://jackman.stanford.edu Stanford CA, 94305-2044, USA. 6-Apr-2000 8:39:03-GMT,4159;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29926 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:39:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA10309 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 03:59:26 -0400 Received: from mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (root@mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10306 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 03:59:24 -0400 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06427; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:57:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13018; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:54:57 +0200 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id JAA22903; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:54:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Klaus Guntermann MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14572.17102.593550.128066@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:54:54 +0200 (MET DST) To: pdftex@tug.org CC: Amit Mehrotra Subject: Re: forwarded message (incremental figure building) In-Reply-To: <14571.34300.744050.479955@localhost.localdomain> References: <14571.34300.744050.479955@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz forwarded: > From: Amit Mehrotra > Subject: suggestion regarding incremetal figure building suitable > for texpower/ppower4 > To: pdftex@tug.org > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:54:26 -0500 (CDT) ... > In the good old days of static projections, I never bothered to learn > about the LaTeX2e's picture environment because I included eps files > generated by other programs. Xfig was used to draw all the figures. Now > I am getting greedy and want figures to build up incrementally in the > slides. I thought of using xfig to export the figure to LaTeX2e's pictures > and manually putting \pause's in it but the utility generates absolutely > horrible figures. Is there a better way to convert xfig figures (or > any other figure drawing facility under Unix) to LaTeX pictures which > is better? The normal sequence of elements in XFig's output is indeed strange. And I also would not recommend to insert \pause commands into it manually. But you can control the output: There is the concept of picture "depth" in XFig, which is what you probably would want to use. Thus you can build layers of your figure. These layers will be written in _decreasing_ depth into the output file. The depth is set either through a control field (like color etc.) when creating new items, or edited for existing items in a dialog box. In recent versions of XFig (i.e. 3.2.3, I also never bothered earlier) you can then control displaying of the different layers and switch them on one after the other, simulating the incremental build. Within a layer the sequence of the items will be determined by XFig. This means that you will need an additional layer between your steps to place \pause commands somewhere in your figure. A short example can currently be found in http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/~gunterma/figexample.fig http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/~gunterma/figexample.tex This has 3 real layers and two intermediate layers for \pauses A drawback that I still see that the figure cannot be scaled easily without using XFig. Enjoy, Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt 6-Apr-2000 8:46:38-GMT,2013;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00079 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:46:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA10382 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 04:19:22 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA10379 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 04:19:19 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12d7VW-0005Ly-00; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:19:18 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12d7VV-0000bn-00; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 09:19:17 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14572.18564.850711.743978@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:19:16 +0100 (BST) To: collibf1@jhuapl.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [SkipCollins] In-Reply-To: <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Skip Collins writes: > extract the original marked up content. Surely you can see some benefit to > having a self-contained, "indivisible" document in which all of the > information needed to regenerate itself is embedded? This just adds another > meaning to the "P" in PDF. forget PDF and TeX. distribute XML files with style sheets (embedded if necessary), and your need is met. dynamic formatting is your friend. Sebastian 6-Apr-2000 9:18:32-GMT,1924;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00719 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 03:18:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA10555 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 04:43:37 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA10552 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 04:43:35 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id JAA16158; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:43:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:43:02 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004060843.JAA16158@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: collibf1@jhuapl.edu CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> (message from Skip Collins on Wed, 05 Apr 2000 18:04:07 -0400) Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [SkipCollins] References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Surely you can see some benefit to > having a self-contained, "indivisible" document in which all of the > information needed to regenerate itself is embedded? This just adds another > meaning to the "P" in PDF. in three steps, because its pre coffee but I'm sure you can do this in one line of perl. pdflatex xxx.tex sed -e "s/^/%XXX/" xxx.tex > tmp insert the contents of the file tmp between the lines >> endobj xref of xxx.pdf and save xxx.pdf to extract: grep "%XXX" report5.pdf | sed -e s/^%XXX// David (Hans will probably point out that this breaks some pdf feature, or won't work with all files, but it worked on the one file I just tried it on) 6-Apr-2000 13:57:56-GMT,1953;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06183 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 07:57:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA11934 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:57:37 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11930 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:57:35 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA10860 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:57:34 -0400 (EDT) To: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex References: From: Ed L Cashin Date: 06 Apr 2000 08:57:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: Simon Jackman's message of "Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:49:41 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Simon Jackman writes: > yes, but its tough for me to imagine drawing a statistical graph in > anything other than Splus or R. There's a MetaPost package called "mpgraph" that allows you to do graphing in metapost. You just point it to a data file that has a bunch of numeric pairs: input graph beginfig(1); draw begingraph(3in, 2in); gdraw("myfile.dat"); endgraph; endfig; end ... where myfile.dat says: 0 0 1 1 2 4 3 9 4 16 5 25 6 36 http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cstr/164.ps.gz -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 6-Apr-2000 14:05:24-GMT,16999;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06394 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:05:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA11928 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:57:08 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11925 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:57:02 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id OAA10128; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:56:31 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200004061256.OAA21760@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id OAA21760; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:56:31 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:56:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: pdftex & color.sty To: cvr@river-valley.com, davidc@nag.co.uk Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/mixed; BOUNDARY=Leash_of_Deer_587_000 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --Leash_of_Deer_587_000 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 8gag/x3uVHsS6D0yMIvvWA== On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:44:37 +0200 (MET DST), Stephan Lehmke wrote: > 3) I smuggled in a \set@color. Otherwise, setting a `global' text > color with \color breaks at the beginning of every new slide > with seminar (only with pdflatex). > > Probably nobody noticed this before because running pdflatex > on documents created with seminar used to lead to wrong > page dimensions. > > Maybe there is a better way to remedy this, but I don't know > how. After some more testing, I find that it doesn't work at all. This is caused by a complete misunderstanding on my part as to how colors work in conjunction with pdflatex... What I had overlooked is that, obviously, my putting \set@color into \@begindvi sets whatever \current@color happens to be when the page break occurs, which is not identical to the color the characters at the beginning of the slide should have. :-( Trying to understand what is going on at all with respect to color management in pdftex.def, I found some striking things, which are maybe well known, but I haven't used pdflatex until quite recently. I'm attaching two examples which demonstrate this strange behaviour. With test1.tex, you can check that a page break seems to undo a color setting effected by \textcolor. With test2.tex, you can verify that setting colors breaks down completely with seminar (all when using pdflatex; everything works with dvips & distill). Strangely, my hack with putting \set@color into \@begindvi restores the (wrong) standard behaviour (the `global' color is maintained, colors set with \textcolor are undone at page breaks). Am I doing something wrong? If nobody else sees something wrong, maybe I have to update something. Could anybody advise what? 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This just adds another >> meaning to the "P" in PDF. > > in three steps, because its pre coffee but I'm sure you can do this in > one line of perl. Thanks. This sort of approach might do everything I need. One perl script could gather all the document pieces, mime them together, and embed the result in a pdf comment. Another bit of perl could extract the whole mess. Resisting the temptation to do every task in TeX promotes mental health. Skip 6-Apr-2000 14:13:40-GMT,1901;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06636 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:13:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12065 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:21:37 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12061 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:21:33 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id OAA21242; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:20:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:20:53 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004061320.OAA21242@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <200004061256.OAA21760@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> (message from Stephan Lehmke on Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:56:31 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: pdftex & color.sty References: <200004061256.OAA21760@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > which is not identical to the color the > characters at the beginning of the slide should have. :-( If you have a class that allows automatic page breaking (ie unlike slides class where page breaking is essentially manual) then you can not get colours right over a page break (or after a float environment) unless either the driver implements a `colour stack' (as for example dvips but not pdftex) or you implement a multiple mark scheme (either as tex macros, or using etex multiple primitive marks) and then rewrite large sections of latexs output routine to handle colour restore information by use of `color' marks. I never had the energy to do the latter so colours work over page breaks only with drivers that offer colour stack support. This is documented in grfgude or color.dtx somewhere I believe. David 6-Apr-2000 14:20:04-GMT,2659;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06808 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:20:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11994 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:14:25 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11990 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:14:23 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12308; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:14:21 -0400 (EDT) To: Skip Collins Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [SkipCollins] References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> From: Ed L Cashin Date: 06 Apr 2000 09:14:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: Skip Collins's message of "Wed, 05 Apr 2000 18:04:07 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Skip Collins writes: > There are situations where one would like to distribute a > standalone, formatted document (i.e. pdf) and allow unknown users to > access and modify the source to generate their own version. Using > tar or zip to package the xml, tex and pdf files together is > currently the only option. But I would like to know that whoever > gets my redistributed pdf file could, with a little digging, extract > the original marked up content. Surely you can see some benefit to > having a self-contained, "indivisible" document in which all of the > information needed to regenerate itself is embedded? This just adds > another meaning to the "P" in PDF. I'd rather have a smaller pdf file. If I want the source, I'd rather have it in a separate file than have to go through the trouble of "digging" it out. I prefer the XML/XSL model, where you have a structured source that an XML parser can convert into other formats. I'm not saying I use implementations of that model (yet), but I like that direction more than trying to keep the source(s) in the finished product. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 6-Apr-2000 15:32:10-GMT,3040;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08672 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:32:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12365 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:01:13 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12362 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:01:10 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id QAA12155; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:00:39 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200004061400.QAA21884@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id QAA21884; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:00:38 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:00:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: pdftex & color.sty To: davidc@nag.co.uk Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 4HMjT0GfsDLwS7zzonlPvQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:20:53 +0100 (BST), David Carlisle wrote: > > > which is not identical to the color the > > characters at the beginning of the slide should have. :-( > > If you have a class that allows automatic page breaking > (ie unlike slides class where page breaking is essentially manual) > then you can not get colours right over a page break (or after a > float environment) unless either the driver implements a `colour stack' > (as for example dvips but not pdftex) or you implement a multiple mark > scheme (either as tex macros, or using etex multiple primitive marks) > and then rewrite large sections of latexs output routine to handle > colour restore information by use of `color' marks. > > I never had the energy to do the latter so colours work over page breaks > only with drivers that offer colour stack support. This is documented in > grfgude or color.dtx somewhere I believe. Ah. Sorry to get upset about an FAQ. I _knew_ there had been an extensive discussion about multiple marks in conjunction with colors, but I admit I had thought the resulting problems were of a more `exotic' nature ;-) But I guess the \set@color in \@begindvi can't stay, not even for seminar, because it will set whatever \current@color is at the time the page break occurs, not the `global' text color. What is the recommended way for doing this? Why does color management break down completely with seminar, and not with e.g. foils or pdfslide? regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 6-Apr-2000 15:44:22-GMT,2754;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08969 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:44:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12597 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:39:47 -0400 Received: from houston.jhuapl.edu (houston.jhuapl.edu [128.244.26.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12594 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:39:40 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) id <0FSL00E01NDED6@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stxmslab1 (stx-mslab1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.27.177]) by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) with SMTP id <0FSL009HOND9H7@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 10:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 10:39:08 -0400 From: Skip Collins Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from[SkipCollins] To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <003701bf9fd5$e0f70a00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <14572.18564.850711.743978@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian wrote: > forget PDF and TeX. distribute XML files with style sheets (embedded > if necessary), and your need is met. dynamic formatting is your friend. Do you mean that I should not distribute PDF at all, or that I should distribute PDF with embedded XML/XSL source rather than embedded TeX source? It appears that you mean the former. Can XML with style sheets completely replace PDF? The benefit of PDF is that it is self-contained; a single file has everything needed for display: text, fonts, images, layout. There do exist circumstances in which distributing a .tar.gz file containing multiple files of various binary and text types necessary for proper presentation is not the ideal solution. Dynamic formatting is great for many things, especially for web based interfaces. But in ceratin limited situations, one may decide that distributing a single self-contained pdf file, which allows access to the source if necessary, is the best approach. Skip 6-Apr-2000 15:53:43-GMT,2762;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09235 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:53:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12699 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:56:09 -0400 Received: from houston.jhuapl.edu (houston.jhuapl.edu [128.244.26.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12693 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:55:34 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) id <0FSL00G01O3N9X@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:54:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stxmslab1 (stx-mslab1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.27.177]) by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) with SMTP id <0FSL00CA6O3I81@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 10:54:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 10:54:54 -0400 From: Skip Collins Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from[SkipCollins] To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <003f01bf9fd8$146cf320$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ed L Cashin wrote: > I prefer the XML/XSL model, where you have a structured source that an > XML parser can convert into other formats. I'm not saying I use > implementations of that model (yet), but I like that direction more > than trying to keep the source(s) in the finished product. The two models are not mutually exclusive. One could use XML/XSL as the source for content and format information. When generating PDF for distribution, one could embed that XML/XSL source in the document. This is not the right approach for most situations. But sometimes it might make sense to tolerate a larger PDF file to get the benefit of having no information loss between source and presentation. If I distribute a document that some anonymous reader decides to squirrel away for later use, I would like to know that 7 years from now when I am dead and my web site is defunct, he can still access the document source when he decides that he would like to use the content for his own purposes. Skip 6-Apr-2000 17:09:06-GMT,1536;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11533 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:09:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13243 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:47:37 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13240 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:47:35 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id QAA27130; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:47:06 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:47:06 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004061547.QAA27130@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <200004061400.QAA21884@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> (message from Stephan Lehmke on Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:00:38 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: pdftex & color.sty References: <200004061400.QAA21884@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Why does color management break down completely with seminar, > and not with e.g. foils or pdfslide? usually this is a sign that the class inserts boxes into the page (floats or page head/foot or footnotes) that are not `colour safe' as defined by the color package. Specifically it usually needs extra {} adding. Given seminar is basically a 2.09 system this seems quite likely in this case (and probably should take the thread of pdftex list) David 6-Apr-2000 17:42:23-GMT,2549;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12576 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:42:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13830 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:49:15 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA13827 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:49:12 -0400 Received: from remote142-83.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.83] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12dFSo-0004td-00; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:49:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000406182920.007a4ec0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:29:20 +0200 To: Skip Collins , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from[SkipCollins] In-Reply-To: <002701bf9fc8$4ed32800$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004060843.JAA16158@nag.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:02 06.04.00 -0400, Skip Collins wrote: >David Carlisle wrote: >>> Surely you can see some benefit to >>> having a self-contained, "indivisible" document in which all of the >>> information needed to regenerate itself is embedded? This just adds another >>> meaning to the "P" in PDF. >> >> in three steps, because its pre coffee but I'm sure you can do this in >> one line of perl. > >Thanks. This sort of approach might do everything I need. One perl script >could gather all the document pieces, mime them together, and embed the result >in a pdf comment. Another bit of perl could extract the whole mess. Resisting >the temptation to do every task in TeX promotes mental health. Inserting with pdfTeX primitives is easy: \immediate\pdfobj file{\jobname.tex} \immediate\pdfobj {/File (\jobname.tex) /Object \the\pdflastobj} The second line is for referencing the object with the file to avoid removing unused objects by postprocessors. Yours sincerely Heiko 6-Apr-2000 18:29:48-GMT,2314;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13904 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:29:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14269 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:29:48 -0400 Received: from houston.jhuapl.edu (houston.jhuapl.edu [128.244.26.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14266 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:29:46 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) id <0FSL00C01V8L19@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:29:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stxmslab1 (stx-mslab1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.27.177]) by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) with SMTP id <0FSL007EAV8G63@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:29:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:29:04 -0400 From: Skip Collins Subject: Re: Re Non-member submissionfrom[SkipCollins] To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <00fb01bf9fed$9de29140$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004060843.JAA16158@nag.co.uk> <3.0.6.32.20000406182920.007a4ec0@localhost> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek writes: > Inserting with pdfTeX primitives is easy: > > \immediate\pdfobj file{\jobname.tex} > \immediate\pdfobj {/File (\jobname.tex) /Object \the\pdflastobj} > > The second line is for referencing the object with the file to > avoid removing unused objects by postprocessors. If instead one were interested in preserving XML source, this would require support at the XML->pdfTeX translation stage. Once a TeX or XML pdfobj is included in a document, how does one extract it? Skip 6-Apr-2000 18:35:23-GMT,2617;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14068 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:35:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14245 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:26:39 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14241 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:26:36 -0400 Received: from max167.public.ox.ac.uk (max167.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.167]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA15463; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:26:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:26:04 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Ed L Cashin cc: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 6 Apr 2000, Ed L Cashin wrote: > Simon Jackman writes: > > > yes, but its tough for me to imagine drawing a statistical graph in > > anything other than Splus or R. > > There's a MetaPost package called "mpgraph" that allows you to do > graphing in metapost. You just point it to a data file that has a > bunch of numeric pairs: And I think that really sums up the gulf here. To statisticians there is a _lot_ more to graphics than scatterplots, and there are whole books on how the layout details matter when presenting data. S (and its derivatives S-PLUS and R) contains man-years of work on how to present data effectively. Colour Plate 1 of the LaTeX Graphics Companion contains a useful example of how make a mess of a barchart (in MetaPost, from Sebastian?) > input graph > > beginfig(1); > draw begingraph(3in, 2in); > gdraw("myfile.dat"); > endgraph; > endfig; > > end > > ... where myfile.dat says: > > 0 0 > 1 1 > 2 4 > 3 9 > 4 16 > 5 25 > 6 36 > > http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cstr/164.ps.gz Ironically, almost exactly the same place as the home of S! -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 6-Apr-2000 20:26:51-GMT,2199;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17285 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:26:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15472 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:34:19 -0400 Received: from mail.inka.de (mail@quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15469 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:34:15 -0400 Received: from moebius.inka.de by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.4) id 12dI2a-0003Q2-00; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:34:08 +0200 Received: (from skirsch@localhost) by moebius.priv (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) id VAA14169; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:20:20 +0200 Message-ID: <20000406212020.K4018@moebius.inka.de> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:20:20 +0200 From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: Skip Collins Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [SkipCollins] Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org, Skip Collins References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu>; from Skip Collins on Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 06:04:07PM -0400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 06:04:07PM -0400, Skip Collins wrote: > There are situations where one would like to distribute a standalone, > formatted document (i.e. pdf) and allow unknown users to access and > modify the source to generate their own version. Another idea would be to stuff the source into an annotation, but our wizards will have to help you here, because I neither know whether there is a size limit for annotations nor how to read stuff from a file into an annotation. -- Yours, Sebastian War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ketchup is a Vegetable. 6-Apr-2000 21:43:00-GMT,1690;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19578 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:42:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15939 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:39:21 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15936 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:39:18 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA04728; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:39:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA26385; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:39:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200004062039.WAA26385@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Re Non-member submissionfrom[SkipCollins] In-Reply-To: <00fb01bf9fed$9de29140$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> from Skip Collins at "Apr 6, 0 01:29:04 pm" To: collibf1@jhuapl.edu (Skip Collins) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:39:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > If instead one were interested in preserving XML source, this would require > support at the XML->pdfTeX translation stage. Once a TeX or XML pdfobj is > included in a document, how does one extract it? If I had such a need, I would write a tool for this purpose using codes from xpdf. Thanh 6-Apr-2000 22:27:58-GMT,2985;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20896 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16333 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:40:47 -0400 Received: from ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.96.18]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16330 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:40:45 -0400 Received: from msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca (msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca [131.104.32.59]) by ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29014 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200004062140.RAA29014@ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca> Received: from MSNET/SpoolDir by msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca (Mercury 1.47); 6 Apr 00 17:40:41 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by MSNET (Mercury 1.47); 6 Apr 00 17:40:27 -0500 From: "William R. Smith" Organization: Math & Stats, University of Guelph To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:40:21 -500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >On Apr 06 2000 Prof Brian D Ripley wrote > On 6 Apr 2000, Ed L Cashin wrote: > > > Simon Jackman writes: > > > > > yes, but its tough for me to imagine drawing a statistical graph in > > > anything other than Splus or R. > > > > There's a MetaPost package called "mpgraph" that allows you to do > > graphing in metapost. You just point it to a data file that has a > > bunch of numeric pairs: > > And I think that really sums up the gulf here. To statisticians there is a > _lot_ more to graphics than scatterplots, and there are whole books on how the > layout details matter when presenting data. S (and its derivatives S-PLUS and > R) contains man-years of work on how to present data effectively. Colour Plate > 1 of the LaTeX Graphics Companion contains a useful example of how make a mess > of a barchart (in MetaPost, from Sebastian?) Hey, he was just trying to help. IMHO, statisticians destroy their credibiIity in these matters when they insist that ALL axes should start from zero. Talk about a gulf with other scientists! As for the issue at hand, I use SigmaPlot to create graphs (all kinds!) and then output them to .pdf Best Regards, W. R. Smith, Professor Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics and School of Engineering Room 546 MacNaughton Building University of Guelph Stone Road and Gordon Streets Guelph, Ontario, CANADA N1G 2W1 Tel: 519-824-4120, ext. 3038; FAX: 519-837-0221; http://www.mathstat.uoguelph.ca/faculty/smith/ 6-Apr-2000 23:14:22-GMT,2277;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22142 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:14:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16809 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:26:02 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16806 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:26:00 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12dKiq-0004s5-00; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:25:56 +0100 Received: from max81.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.81] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12dKip-0000Ez-00; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:25:55 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14573.2902.134541.501729@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:10:30 +0100 (BST) To: ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Cc: ecashin@coe.uga.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Prof Brian D Ripley writes: > And I think that really sums up the gulf here. To statisticians there is a > _lot_ more to graphics than scatterplots, and there are whole books on how > the layout details matter when presenting data. S (and its derivatives > S-PLUS and R) contains man-years of work on how to present data > effectively. so? are you saying that Metapost cannot be configured to do the same? Colour Plate 1 of the LaTeX Graphics Companion contains a > useful example of how make a mess of a barchart (in MetaPost, from > Sebastian?) indeed. but the nasty design is *my* choice, not Metapost's. when they give you some colour pages, you use all the colors you can find..... sebastian 6-Apr-2000 23:15:30-GMT,2687;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22164 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:15:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16814 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:26:25 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16811 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:26:23 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12dKj6-0004sP-00; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:26:12 +0100 Received: from max81.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.81] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12dKj5-0007JJ-00; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:26:11 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14573.3520.139188.375298@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:20:48 +0100 (BST) To: collibf1@jhuapl.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from[SkipCollins] In-Reply-To: <003701bf9fd5$e0f70a00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <14572.18564.850711.743978@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <003701bf9fd5$e0f70a00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Skip Collins writes: > Do you mean that I should not distribute PDF at all, or that I should > distribute PDF with embedded XML/XSL source rather than embedded TeX source? I mean forget about PDF, and frozen page layout. forget 100% typography, forget hand line-breaking. > It appears that you mean the former. Can XML with style sheets completely > replace PDF? that depends... > The benefit of PDF is that it is self-contained; a single file > has everything needed for display: text, fonts, images, layout. layout you lose; fonts you lose; images you could embed. > web based interfaces. But in ceratin limited situations, one may decide that > distributing a single self-contained pdf file, which allows access to the > source if necessary, is the best approach. why are you so keen on the single file? why not just keep foo.xml and foo.pdf together? why should they get separated sebastian 7-Apr-2000 1:15:40-GMT,1442;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25177 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 19:15:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17791 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:37:48 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17788 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:37:46 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e370ZPt05651 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:35:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:35:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [SkipCollins] In-Reply-To: <14572.18564.850711.743978@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > forget PDF and TeX. distribute XML files with style sheets > (embedded if necessary), and your need is met. dynamic > formatting is your friend. Err... to whom might one distribute such files, and expect to be met with other than bemusement? Allin Cottrell. 7-Apr-2000 2:09:03-GMT,3676;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26469 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:09:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17980 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:15:05 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA17977 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:15:03 -0400 Received: from remote142-105.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.105] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12dNMM-0003Xx-00; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 03:14:54 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000407030612.007a7ec0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 03:06:12 +0200 To: Skip Collins , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: Re Non-member submissionfrom[SkipCollins] In-Reply-To: <00fb01bf9fed$9de29140$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004060843.JAA16158@nag.co.uk> <3.0.6.32.20000406182920.007a4ec0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 13:29 06.04.00 -0400, Skip Collins wrote: >Heiko Oberdiek writes: >> Inserting with pdfTeX primitives is easy: >> >> \immediate\pdfobj file{\jobname.tex} >> \immediate\pdfobj {/File (\jobname.tex) /Object \the\pdflastobj} Sorry, I have cut and paste the wrong lines, I wanted: \begingroup \pdfcompresslevel=0 \immediate\pdfobj attr {/Type /SourceFile /SourceName (\jobname.tex)} file{\jobname.tex} \pdfcatalog{/SourceObject \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R} \endgroup The \pdfcatalog line is for referencing the object with the file to avoid removing unused objects by postprocessors. >If instead one were interested in preserving XML source, this would require >support at the XML->pdfTeX translation stage. Once a TeX or XML pdfobj is >included in a document, how does one extract it? With perl, for example this quick and dirty hack: ### cut ### getobject.pl ### cut ### #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; my $OutPrefix = "out_"; die "Syntax: getsrc \n" unless @ARGV; my $FileName = $ARGV[0]; open(IN, $FileName) or die "Cannot open $FileName!\n"; binmode(IN); while () { if (/\/SourceName \(([^)]+)\)/) { # get name of output file my $OutName = $1; print "Output file: $OutPrefix$OutName\n"; # get length of stream $_ = ; /\/Length\s+(\d+)/ or die "!!! Error: /Length not found!\n"; my $Length = $1; print "Length: $Length\n"; # looking for "stream" while () { die "!!! Error: stream not found!\n" if /obj/; last if /^stream/; } # read stream my $buf = ""; read(IN, $buf, $Length) == $Length or die "!!! Read error!\n"; # write output file open(OUT, ">$OutPrefix$OutName") or die "!!! Error: Open file $OutName!\n"; binmode(OUT); print OUT $buf; # done print "Done.\n"; last; } } ### cut ### getobj.pl ### cut ### With higher settings of \pdfcompresslevel the stream will be compressed (FlateEncode) to get smaller pdf file sizes. The extraction step then has to decompress the data. Yours sincerely Heiko 7-Apr-2000 7:36:43-GMT,2485;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03928 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:36:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19331 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:54:32 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA19328 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:54:29 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad (ipc379171f.dial.wxs.nl [195.121.23.31]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FSMWJ101.C1K; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:54:37 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000407011824.0081ba80@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 01:18:24 +0200 To: Sebastian Marius Kirsch From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [SkipCollins] Cc: pdftex@tug.org, Skip Collins In-Reply-To: <20000406212020.K4018@moebius.inka.de> References: <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:20 PM 4/6/2000 +0200, Sebastian Marius Kirsch wrote: >On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 06:04:07PM -0400, Skip Collins wrote: >> There are situations where one would like to distribute a standalone, >> formatted document (i.e. pdf) and allow unknown users to access and >> modify the source to generate their own version. > >Another idea would be to stuff the source into an annotation, but our >wizards will have to help you here, because I neither know whether there >is a size limit for annotations nor how to read stuff from a file into >an annotation. Rather doable I would say, in a text annot. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Apr-2000 7:47:34-GMT,3447;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04128 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:47:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19348 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:58:01 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA19345 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:57:59 -0400 Received: from max91.public.ox.ac.uk (max91.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.91]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA18418; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:57:49 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:57:30 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Sebastian Rahtz cc: ecashin@coe.uga.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex In-Reply-To: <14573.2902.134541.501729@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Prof Brian D Ripley writes: > > And I think that really sums up the gulf here. To statisticians there is a > > _lot_ more to graphics than scatterplots, and there are whole books on how > > the layout details matter when presenting data. S (and its derivatives > > S-PLUS and R) contains man-years of work on how to present data > > effectively. > > so? are you saying that Metapost cannot be configured to do the same? No, just that we would not re-invent the wheel. This sub-thread started with Simon Jackman saying > SR> Its been a long while since I drew a picture in a drawing > SR> program. Have you considered the TeX-based approach to pictures? > > yes, but its tough for me to imagine drawing a statistical graph in > anything other than Splus or R. and Ed Cashin suggested mpgraph. I am suggesting mpgraph cannot easily be configured to do the same. One would need to build a complete `statistical graph'ing front end to MetaPost. Indeed, on the R development list there is a discussion on the possibility of a MetaPost driver for R, which would do precisely that. (At present the perceived problem is accessing accurate font metrics. It's also pretty moot here, as R has a TeX-like math-setting engine for plot annotations, so can do a good job in postscript and hence pdf.) > Colour Plate 1 of the LaTeX Graphics Companion contains a > > useful example of how make a mess of a barchart (in MetaPost, from > > Sebastian?) > > indeed. but the nasty design is *my* choice, not Metapost's. when they > give you some colour pages, you use all the colors you can find..... It's not just the colours (could you really not find less strident ones and not use a glaring white background for the labels?). For example the tick for 100 is outside the plot region, perception theorists advocate gaps between the bars, .... A lot of this is mpgraph, I believe. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 7-Apr-2000 7:58:09-GMT,2854;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04325 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:58:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19335 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:54:57 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA19332 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 02:54:55 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad (ipc379171f.dial.wxs.nl [195.121.23.31]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FSMWIX01.C1I; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:54:33 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000407011508.0081a420@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 01:15:08 +0200 To: Skip Collins From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Re Non-member submissionfrom[SkipCollins] Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <00fb01bf9fed$9de29140$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004060843.JAA16158@nag.co.uk> <3.0.6.32.20000406182920.007a4ec0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 01:29 PM 4/6/2000 -0400, Skip Collins wrote: >If instead one were interested in preserving XML source, this would require >support at the XML->pdfTeX translation stage. Once a TeX or XML pdfobj is >included in a document, how does one extract it? There are several options, which I will look into some day: (1) marked content: not that hard to do for most structural components, so maybe that will move into context some day (2) pdf (1.3) structural markup, rather complicated and weird syntax, so no fun implementing (3) adding the original as a separate stream, or on a seperate layer, I guess it can be can be done in a few passes But distributing the xml source along with the pdf file makes more sence, since there is much source code that either ends up in different places, neither ends up, or new content is generated in the process, or changed on the fly, or ... so a 1-1 parallel copy embedded in the file is (at least for our docs) nearly always useless. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Apr-2000 9:11:33-GMT,1479;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05665 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 03:11:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA19582 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 03:59:24 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.uta.fi (IDENT:root@mail.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.25]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19579 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 03:59:22 -0400 Received: from cs.uta.fi (IDENT:av@siwenna.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.52]) by mail.cs.uta.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA03926 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:59:21 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <38ED9558.D17DB56D@cs.uta.fi> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:59:20 +0300 From: "Arto V. Viitanen" Organization: University of Tampere, Dept. of CS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.3.99-pre3 i686) X-Accept-Language: fi, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: How to print pdfslide slides? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk How does one print PDF slides made using the pdfslide style? It takes the print menu from Acrobat, and I have found no way to put it back. -- Arto V. Viitanen av@cs.uta.fi University of Tampere, Department of Computer and Information Sciences Tampere, Finland http://www.cs.uta.fi/~av/ 7-Apr-2000 9:20:28-GMT,1949;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05814 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 03:20:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA19811 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 04:40:53 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA19807 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 04:40:51 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12dUJt-0005cG-00; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:40:49 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12dUJs-0005G1-00; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:40:48 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14573.40720.269885.75406@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:40:48 +0100 (BST) To: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from [SkipCollins] In-Reply-To: References: <14572.18564.850711.743978@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Allin Cottrell writes: > On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > forget PDF and TeX. distribute XML files with style sheets > > (embedded if necessary), and your need is met. dynamic > > formatting is your friend. > > Err... to whom might one distribute such files, and expect to be > met with other than bemusement? > anyone with a copy of IE5 or Mozilla (in a few months). that a big enough group for you? sebastian 7-Apr-2000 9:35:29-GMT,2472;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06087 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 03:35:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA19864 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 04:52:01 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA19861 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 04:51:59 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12dUUg-00070R-00; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:51:58 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12dUUf-0006tC-00; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:51:57 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14573.41388.319919.126715@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:51:56 +0100 (BST) To: ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Cc: ecashin@coe.uga.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Putting TeX math symbols in figures for pdfTex In-Reply-To: References: <14573.2902.134541.501729@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Prof Brian D Ripley writes: > One would need to build a complete `statistical graph'ing front end to > MetaPost. Indeed, on the R development list there is a discussion on the > possibility of a MetaPost driver for R, which would do precisely that. good idea. or why not a PDF backend? > > Colour Plate 1 of the LaTeX Graphics Companion contains a ... > It's not just the colours (could you really not find less strident ones and > not use a glaring white background for the labels?). of course I could have done, but i was not trying to show good design... > For example the tick > for 100 is outside the plot region sorry, I dont understand that > perception theorists advocate gaps > between the bars, .... A lot of this is mpgraph, I believe. look at p.79, and you'll see that bar drawing is done low-level by me. so dont blame mpgraph for that of course, to write a real statisticians package for Metapost, based on mpgraph, would be a lot of work... sebastian 7-Apr-2000 16:25:05-GMT,1597;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15728 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:24:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21347 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:10:21 -0400 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21344 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:10:17 -0400 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07400; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:19:16 +0100 Message-ID: <38EDD244.71ABAFC0@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 13:19:16 +0100 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Arto V. Viitanen" CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to print pdfslide slides? References: <38ED9558.D17DB56D@cs.uta.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "Arto V. Viitanen" wrote: > > How does one print PDF slides made using the pdfslide style? It takes > the print menu from Acrobat, and I have found no way to put it back. What? Does F8 not work? This should unhide the icon bar. Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 7-Apr-2000 16:36:34-GMT,1681;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16042 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:36:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21406 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:22:49 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21403 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:22:46 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id NAA04721; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:56:20 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200004071156.NAA23871@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id NAA23871; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:56:19 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:56:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: How to print pdfslide slides? To: pdftex@tug.org, av@cs.uta.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: HeUSL4JBGAnLxKjlsRjnTg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:59:20 +0300, "Arto V. Viitanen" wrote: > > How does one print PDF slides made using the pdfslide style? It takes > the print menu from Acrobat, and I have found no way to put it back. Well, you can always use key shortcuts... My acroread invokes Print when I press C-p. regards Stephan 7-Apr-2000 16:42:19-GMT,3200;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16210 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:42:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21364 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:18:39 -0400 Received: from dallas.jhuapl.edu (dallas.jhuapl.edu [128.244.197.22]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21358 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:18:35 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by dallas.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40039) id <0FSN00M01H6F27@dallas.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stxmslab1 (stx-mslab1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.27.177]) by dallas.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40039) with SMTP id <0FSN00L0GH69XF@dallas.jhuapl.edu>; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:20:33 -0400 From: Skip Collins Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from[SkipCollins] To: Sebastian Rahtz , cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <006101bfa09c$72c33000$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <14572.18564.850711.743978@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <14573.40720.269885.75406@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz writes: > Allin Cottrell writes: > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > > > forget PDF and TeX. distribute XML files with style sheets > > > (embedded if necessary), and your need is met. dynamic > > > formatting is your friend. > > > > Err... to whom might one distribute such files, and expect to be > > met with other than bemusement? > > > > anyone with a copy of IE5 or Mozilla (in a few months). that a big > enough group for you? I sympathize with Sebastian's opinion. He certainly knows more about the field than I do. I agree that XML is The Right Way to store content. Our disagreement has more to do with details of distribution than it does with information structure. Perhaps I am just trying to use PDF in a way that is outside its scope: as a general container for XML and ancillary data, suitable for standalone distribution and display. And now for a clueless, pathetically uninformed opinion which will surely be refuted: It seems to me that if XML allowed non-text, binary content, it would solve this problem by itself. One could directly include images, fonts, etc. in an XML document. The argument I always see for this restriction, "you can use any text editor to read and modify an XML document," seems strange, because encodings like UTF-8, which are allowed, break most text editors on the planet. Are there sound reasons for restricting the content of XML to text? Skip 7-Apr-2000 16:46:45-GMT,2440;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16362 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:46:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21365 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:18:39 -0400 Received: from dallas.jhuapl.edu (dallas.jhuapl.edu [128.244.197.22]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21361 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:18:35 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by dallas.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40039) id <0FSN00C01FHKZI@dallas.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stxmslab1 (stx-mslab1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.27.177]) by dallas.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40039) with SMTP id <0FSN00LM4FHFLI@dallas.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:44:02 -0400 From: Skip Collins Subject: Re: Re Non-member submissionfrom[SkipCollins] To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <004101bfa097$58df5380$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <200004051459.KAA03041@tug.org> <14571.24082.643203.678672@localhost.localdomain> <000701bf9f25$0ae2b820$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <200004051851.TAA14788@nag.co.uk> <006701bf9f4a$e0901b00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <14572.18564.850711.743978@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <003701bf9fd5$e0f70a00$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <14573.3520.139188.375298@localhost.localdomain> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz writes: > why are you so keen on the single file? why not just keep foo.xml and > foo.pdf together? why should they get separated Because it's not just foo.xml; it's also fooA.jpg, fooB.jpg, foo.png, foo.eps, foo.ttf, &c. On a web server, sure, keep all the files together. But not all information can be accessed via the web (yet). The main advantage of PDF is that it is self-contained. The main disadvantages are that it is (mostly) static and (completely) unstructured. Embedding XML source may help alleviate these problems in some cases. Skip 7-Apr-2000 18:02:00-GMT,5005;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18510 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:01:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21919 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:15:44 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21913 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:15:40 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12dXAc-0002DS-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:43:26 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12dXAb-00075F-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 12:43:25 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14573.51677.302651.862632@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:43:25 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Message too long (>40000 chars) In-Reply-To: <200004061404.KAA12390@tug.org> References: <200004061404.KAA12390@tug.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: margarida Hi, apparently the consensus answer to Gary Margrave's request for help > I'm on a PC using Canvas for the > graphics and I had hoped to use the TeX math fonts from within Canvas but I > cannot yet "find" them. > is for him to switch to MetaPost or equivalent. If he is keen on using Canvas maybe I can offer some help. I've used Canvas for graphics on the Macintosh. At the time I used the software Textures for latexing documents. This software has two options regarding font installation: hidden or not. If you choose the first option (and there are good reasons for doing it), you won't see Tex fonts in the font menus of applications other than Textures (e.g. MSWord and Canvas). Maybe you have a similar situation in your setup. Now, if you just want to write regular text on your pictures it may be worthwhile to find out how to make the fonts available to Canvas. On the other hand, if you want to write formulas, or any kind of math, then it will be a hassle, even if you're able to select the appropriate cmmi** font in Canvas, for two reasons: (i) you will have to do all the positioning and sizing (subscripts, etc.) and (ii) you will have to constantly switch fonts and consult a font table, because the math font encoding is not like a regular font encoding (for instance, if you select font cmmi10 and type "f(x) =", you will get the equivalent of the tex output of $f\leftharpoonup x \leftharpoondown /$). My solution is to: (i) select picture and save selection as eps, (ii) \includegraphics it in the latex file (do not write the ".eps" part of the filename), (iii) add a picture environment of zero dimensions after the picture and use it to place text (this is not too bad on a Mac because I can immediately see the result of the typeset and fine-tune the coordinates in the \put commands accordingly). Then you may epstopdf the picture and pdflatex the latex file (when you add the option [pdftex] to \usepackage{graphicx}, it automatically picks the picture file with extension ".pdf"). Some extra tidbits: if you put the picture in a centered environment then you may easily adapt for different picture sizes (if you choose to change it) by changing the \unitlength measurement in the \setlength command. I've attached a zipped and uuencoded archive with an example (tex file, pdf picture and pdf output). The procedure outlined above may be used for any eps picture regardless of how it was produced. The picture used in my example was actually produced in Mathematica. Regarding F. Boehme's concern: > I believe eps files will ownly blow up if they contain bitmap graphics > which had previously been converted to eps. > If the files are being produced in Canvas, they possibly do not contain bitmap graphics. In this case the pdf version will usually be much smaller than the saved as eps version (in an example I tried the a 48K eps resulted in a 4K pdf). SORRY for the lengthy message. Despite my best intentions and heartfelt determination it always comes out tooooo long. Best regards, Margarida ******************************************************* Margarida P. Mello Dept. of Applied Math. Tel.: +55 19 289-4547 (home) IMECC - Unicamp +55 19 788-5966 (work) Fax: +55 19 289-1466 e-mail: margarid@ime.unicamp.br ******************************************************* ************ I have deleted Margarida's attachment. Its too big. Please do not send big attachments to lists like this sebastian ****************** 7-Apr-2000 18:03:03-GMT,2817;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18533 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:03:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21920 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:15:45 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21916 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:15:43 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12dZlD-0006L7-00; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:29:23 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12dZlC-0002Rc-00; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:29:22 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14573.61634.352739.897367@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:29:22 +0100 (BST) To: collibf1@jhuapl.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from[SkipCollins] In-Reply-To: <006101bfa09c$72c33000$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> References: <14572.18564.850711.743978@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <14573.40720.269885.75406@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <006101bfa09c$72c33000$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Skip Collins writes: > information structure. Perhaps I am just trying to use PDF in a way that is > outside its scope: as a general container for XML and ancillary data, suitable > for standalone distribution and display. it seems to me that embedding foo.tex inside foo.pdf is the thin end of the wedge. and the graphic files? and the style files? the source of LaTeX? the font metrics? > It seems to me that if XML allowed non-text, binary content, it would solve > this problem by itself. One could directly include images, fonts, etc. in an > XML document. The argument I always see for this restriction, "you can use any > text editor to read and modify an XML document," seems strange, because > encodings like UTF-8, which are allowed, break most text editors on the > planet. Are there sound reasons for restricting the content of XML to text? it is not restricted to `text', it's restricted to valid CDATA, strictly defined in the XML Recommendation. basically, you have Unicode to play with, no more no less. but anyway, forget binary. use MIME-encoding, which is well understood and widely supported. I cannot see any argument against it, and I assume it would be valid XML if enclosed in sebastian 7-Apr-2000 18:14:42-GMT,2192;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18866 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:14:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21994 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:21:39 -0400 Received: from mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de (mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.254.102]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21991 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:21:37 -0400 Received: from next.lrz-muenchen.de by mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:21:29 +0200 Received: by next.lrz-muenchen.de (NX5.67e/NX3.0S) id AA01549; Fri, 7 Apr 00 18:21:28 +0200 Message-Id: <10004071621.AA01549@next.lrz-muenchen.de> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.lrz.de/~heller/hheller.tiff X-Face: #K8+M!=vK|\bQ[&P:z)d$Q:i(@36P1!7if~nI%OB\9I>;p5Vs<_YkU;].K(chZJ,k8X96t ]!d?;H/|Jc:Hr-hhbBow![@FkT0xNOVXK|TO%Jg@Xz Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:21:27 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: starter querstion: how to get PDF instead of DVI? Reply-To: Helmut.Heller@lrz-muenchen.de X-Reply-Format: NeXT Mail preferred X-Url: http://www.lrz.de/~heller Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, this must be so dump, but I can't find a hint in the man page (pdftex.1) or the siurce distribution: how do I specify that I want *.pdf output instead of *.dvi output? By default pdflatex seems to produce *.dvi files. Thanks for any help! Helmut --- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ) High Performance Computing Group Barer Str. 21, Zi S2515, 80333 Munich, GERMANY 7-Apr-2000 19:28:50-GMT,2037;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21095 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:28:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23308 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:44:15 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23305 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:44:12 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id SAA19556; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:43:16 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:43:16 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004071743.SAA19556@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: collibf1@jhuapl.edu CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <006101bfa09c$72c33000$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> (message from Skip Collins on Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:20:33 -0400) Subject: Re: Re Non-member submission from[SkipCollins] References: <14572.18564.850711.743978@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <14573.40720.269885.75406@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <006101bfa09c$72c33000$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > It seems to me that if XML allowed non-text, binary content, it would solve > this problem by itself. One could directly include images, you'd need a tool to extract them, and if you are using a tool it could base64 (MIME) decode them at the same time, so there is nothing much (except a bit of disk space) lost by the restriction to text. just put your images in base 64 encoded, just as for mail attatchments. Allowing only text means that XML can for instance mandate that any XML processor may normalise line endings. Given how many millions of transfers that must have been trashed over the years by ftping files in ascii mode, it is clear that allowing line end normalisation and binary data to have any possibility of interacting would have been a recipe for disaster. David 7-Apr-2000 20:33:00-GMT,1517;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22994 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:32:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23873 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:41:42 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23869 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:41:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e37Id9Y01027 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:39:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:39:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: <14573.40720.269885.75406@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Err... to whom might one distribute such files, and expect to be > > met with other than bemusement? > > > > anyone with a copy of IE5 or Mozilla (in a few months). that a big > enough group for you? Ahh. Would it work (something) like this: you view the XML in the browser, and if you want a properly typeset version you download it and process it with a beast such as jade? Allin Cottrell. 7-Apr-2000 20:34:48-GMT,1610;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23041 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:34:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23898 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:45:28 -0400 Received: from biology.usu.edu (biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23895 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:45:27 -0400 Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233-1.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.16.3]) by biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 2J5QH3LF; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:45:15 -0600 Message-ID: <38EE1FE4.90AC6E3@biology.usu.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 11:50:28 -0600 From: "James W. Haefner" Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX Subject: drawing gui for metapost Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Metapost fans might want to explore metagraph, a drawing frontend for metapost. It doesn't do statistical plotting but can incorporate tex commands for math output. I haven't used it but it looks to be fairly mature. http://filemon.mecanica.upm.es/metapost/ -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 7-Apr-2000 23:57:15-GMT,2221;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28492 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:57:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25918 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:56:07 -0400 Received: from kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25915 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:56:03 -0400 Received: from milliways.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@milliways.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.56]) by kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA25790; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:56:00 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:56:00 +0200 Message-Id: <200004072156.XAA25790@kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Helmut.Heller@lrz-muenchen.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: starter querstion: how to get PDF instead of DVI? In-Reply-To: <10004071621.AA01549@next.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <10004071621.AA01549@next.lrz-muenchen.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Helmut" == Helmut Heller writes: > Hello, this must be so dump, but I can't find a hint in the man > page (pdftex.1) or the siurce distribution: how do I specify > that I want *.pdf output instead of *.dvi output? By default > pdflatex seems to produce *.dvi files. Set \pdfoutput=1 or \usepackage{hyperref} in the preamble. Hyperref does a bit more... Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Apr-2000 0:10:11-GMT,1358;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28782 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:10:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25966 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:04:44 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25963 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:04:42 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id XAA16252; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:03:39 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:03:39 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004072203.XAA16252@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: (message from Allin Cottrell on Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:39:09 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: xml and pdf References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Ahh. Would it work (something) like this: you view the XML in > the browser, and if you want a properly typeset version you > download it and process it with a beast such as jade? or a more controllable beast such as (pdf)tex. (see for example ctan macros/xmltex) David 8-Apr-2000 9:58:10-GMT,2431;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA11034 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 03:58:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27951 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 04:05:35 -0400 Received: from Princeton.EDU (postoffice.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.120]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27948 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 04:05:29 -0400 Received: from mailserver.Princeton.EDU (mailserver.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.65]) by Princeton.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA06814 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 04:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PCRVDBLAPTOP (comserv8-dialup69.Princeton.EDU [128.112.70.69]) by mailserver.Princeton.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA10779 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 04:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001601bfa130$f3e4e630$45467080@PCRVDBLAPTOP> From: "Robert J. Vanderbei" To: Subject: java applets... Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 04:03:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'm using pdfslide (with ppower4). At the moment I have some hyperlinks to html files that have embedded java applets. When viewing the pdf file in acroread, the html file loads into a separate browser window and when done with the applet one closes the browser window and returns to reading the slides. Fine. However, when viewing the pdf file in a browser, the link takes one to the web page with the applet and when one is done and goes back to the pdf file they get returned to the first page of the document, not the page they were on when they jumped to html. That's an annoyance. Is it possible to make it so that a new browser window opens up? Even better, it would be nice if it were possible to embed JAVA applets directly in pdf files and it would be really great if this could be done directly from the pdflatex source file. Is this possible? For an example of what I currently have, see page 8 of http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/LPbook/lec2.pp4.pdf Robert J. Vanderbei http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb 8-Apr-2000 10:48:37-GMT,1720;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11936 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 04:48:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA28116 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 05:09:40 -0400 Received: from juggernaut.eti.pg.gda.pl (root@juggernaut.eti.pg.gda.pl [153.19.48.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28113 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 05:09:38 -0400 Received: from pg.gda.pl (olin.eti.pg.gda.pl [153.19.48.90]) by juggernaut.eti.pg.gda.pl (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03204 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:09:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <38EEFF06.B0907253@pg.gda.pl> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 11:42:30 +0200 From: Marcin Neyman Organization: TUG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Please help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk May I ask you to show me the proper way (or a manual) how to include MetaPost graphics in a document processed with pdfLaTeX ? I've read all available manuals, infos and FAQs and tried all techniques I could think about and I failed :-( Probably I missed an important manual but I realy tried hard. Thanks in advance. P.S. I use teTeX distribuition in Debian Linux "slink" version -- Marcin Neyman e-mail: Marcin.Neyman@pg.gda.pl Tecnical University of Gda phone: +48 58 347 1702 80-952 Gdansk, Narutowicza 11/12, POLAND 8-Apr-2000 11:14:04-GMT,1782;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12364 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 05:14:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA28226 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 05:44:33 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28223 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 05:44:31 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23690 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:44:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28151 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:44:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200004080944.LAA28151@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: getting afm from buggy type1 fonts To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:44:28 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, my apoligize for posting this off-topic question: I need to extract afm from some rather buggy type1 fonts, available in pfb/pfm. printafm seems to do a reasonable job, but it fails on some of fonts, propably because of some illegal instructions inside the fonts. pfmtoafm from Y&Y does a very good job, and tries to do recovery in case of some buggy pfm's as well. But pfm's files do not contain all glyphs that I need (they are available in pfb's). Does anyone know of another way to do it? Thanks, Thanh 8-Apr-2000 12:36:10-GMT,1839;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13935 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 06:36:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA30403 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:24:11 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com ([210.212.246.89]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA30396 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:23:11 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA14578; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:11:23 +0530 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:06:11 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: "Arto V. Viitanen" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to print pdfslide slides? In-Reply-To: <38ED9558.D17DB56D@cs.uta.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Arto V. Viitanen wrote: AVV> How does one print PDF slides made using the pdfslide style? It takes AVV> the print menu from Acrobat, and I have found no way to put it back. Somewhere at the top of your document after pdfslide package loading line you can have a \hypersetup{pdfwindowui=true,pdfmenubar=true,pdftoolbar=true} and recompile, you will get a pdf with all menu, toolbar, etc back and you can print the document. Also, if you redefine the \panelbackground, \buttonbackground etc to white (available in the pdfslide.cfg), you can save lot of printer toner. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 8-Apr-2000 13:47:42-GMT,1940;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15403 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:47:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA30821 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 08:49:00 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA30818 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 08:48:57 -0400 Received: from remote142-69.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.69] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12dufX-0005vm-00; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 14:48:56 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000408042402.007a2180@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:24:02 +0200 To: Helmut.Heller@lrz-muenchen.de, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: starter querstion: how to get PDF instead of DVI? In-Reply-To: <10004071621.AA01549@next.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 18:21 07.04.00 +0200, Helmut Heller wrote: > >this must be so dump, but I can't find a hint in the man page (pdftex.1) or >the siurce distribution: how do I specify that I want *.pdf output instead >of *.dvi output? By default pdflatex seems to produce *.dvi files. The pdfTeX manual is available at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ You can set the default in the configuration file `pdftex.def': output_format 1 Or you can use the pdfTeX command \pdfoutput: \pdfoutput 1 If (\pdf)output(_format) is set to zero, a dvi file is produced, if it is set greater than zero, a pdf file will be generated. Yours sincerely Heiko 8-Apr-2000 15:24:23-GMT,1994;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17242 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:24:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31338 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:12:18 -0400 Received: from mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (exim@mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.97]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31335 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:12:15 -0400 Received: from eagle (isdn216-185.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.216.185]) by mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with smtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12dvyA-00012f-00; Sat, 08 Apr 2000 16:12:14 +0200 Message-ID: <008b01bfa164$744f0340$b9d80d81@eagle> From: "Jacopo Gentilini" To: Subject: Pdftex - jpg - and "scale" option of \includegraphics Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:12:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hallo! I have a question about the pdflatex package. I have a file "a.eps" (bb= 0 0 200 200) I include the file with the command: \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} ... \includegraphics[bb=0 0 200 200, scale=0.5]{a.eps} and I print the ps-file. Now I have converted the a.eps in a "a.jpg" (200x200) for use the pdflatex package I include the file with the command: \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} ... \includegraphics[bb=0 0 200 200, scale=0.5]{a.jpg} and I print the pdf-file but no image is printed. So I've changed the command: \includegraphics[scale=0.5]{a.jpg} and I print. Now I have the picture but the scale is not the same and the figure is smaller than the eps-output (factor ~ 0.77). Why? Best regards. Iacopo Gentilini 8-Apr-2000 15:58:31-GMT,1132;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18075 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:58:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31616 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:46:15 -0400 Received: from cimlab.tamu.edu (CIMLAB.TAMU.EDU [128.194.75.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31612 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:46:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (icastillo@localhost) by cimlab.tamu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17950 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:42:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:42:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Ignacio Castillo To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Tex Users, Is there such a thing like the editor WinEdt (www.winedt.com) for Linux? Please let me know. Ignacio Castillo Texas A&M University 8-Apr-2000 17:01:11-GMT,1888;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19351 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:01:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA32023 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:00:21 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA32020 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:00:20 -0400 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21017; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:00:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: Han The Thanh cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: getting afm from buggy type1 fonts In-Reply-To: <200004080944.LAA28151@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk If you have Y&Y's font manipulation package, you can try the tool PFBtoAFM. It works quite nicely. You won't get kerning information (that you will have to extract from the PFM). What are the bugs in the Type 1 fonts? Tom On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Han The Thanh wrote: > Dear all, > > my apoligize for posting this off-topic question: I need to extract afm from > some rather buggy type1 fonts, available in pfb/pfm. printafm seems to do a > reasonable job, but it fails on some of fonts, propably because of some illegal > instructions inside the fonts. pfmtoafm from Y&Y does a very good job, and tries > to do recovery in case of some buggy pfm's as well. But pfm's files do not > contain all glyphs that I need (they are available in pfb's). Does anyone know > of another way to do it? > > Thanks, > Thanh > 8-Apr-2000 18:40:46-GMT,2828;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21320 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:40:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA32485 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:38:37 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA32482 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:38:34 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12065; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:38:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08467; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:38:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200004081738.TAA08467@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: getting afm from buggy type1 fonts In-Reply-To: from Tom Kacvinsky at "Apr 8, 0 12:00:11 pm" To: tjk@ams.org (Tom Kacvinsky) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:38:32 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > If you have Y&Y's font manipulation package, you can try the tool > PFBtoAFM. It works quite nicely. You won't get kerning information > (that you will have to extract from the PFM). I have Y&Y TeX v2.0 installed, somehow there is only the pfmtoafm program but not pfatoafm. The fonts don't have any kern, so I would be happy to have the afm's without kerning info. > What are the bugs in the Type 1 fonts? running printafm failed with something like: C 160 ; WX 485 ; N fl ; B Error: /invalidfont in --.type1execchar-- Operand stack: --dict:13/14(ro)(G)-- 160 fl -string- Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- %--nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- %--nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %%oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- %--nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- %--nostringval-- 161 1 255 --nostringval-- %for_pos_int_continue %--nostringval-- %finish_show --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 4 3 %0 --nostringval-- (gs_show_enum) %op_show_continue --nostringval-- %--nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:947/983(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:74/200(L)-- Current allocation mode is local Current file position is 3187 Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 Thanh 8-Apr-2000 20:06:09-GMT,2069;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22919 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 14:06:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00408 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:06:34 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00405 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:06:31 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15344 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 21:06:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA10217 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 21:06:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200004081906.VAA10217@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: extracting source file from pdf To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 21:06:28 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I wrote a small utility called pdftosrc based on xpdf codes to extract a file included in a pdf file. The syntax for including file is the same as suggested by Heiko. Thus one can say: \immediate\pdfobj stream attr {/Type /SourceFile /SourceName (\jobname.zip)} file{\jobname.zip} \pdfcatalog{/SourceObject \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R} to include \jobname.zip or whatever. I would prefer something like \immediate \write 18 {make mysources.tar.bz2} to get maximal compressness. To extract the file that has been included, one then says: pdftosrc file.pdf and that's it. The file is included/extracted in binary mode. I added this utility into pdftex sources (rather small, about 80 lines). In case anyone wants to try it, I can upload the sources (or binaries for linux/djgpp). Thanh 8-Apr-2000 20:23:53-GMT,1965;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23267 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 14:23:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00430 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:11:37 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00427 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:11:36 -0400 Received: from max149.public.ox.ac.uk (max149.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.149]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA02573; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:11:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:11:04 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Ignacio Castillo cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Ignacio Castillo wrote: > Dear Tex Users, > > Is there such a thing like the editor WinEdt (www.winedt.com) for Linux? > Please let me know. There is the (vastly superior IMHO) auctex package for Emacs. You can even use that on Windows, and it is even free (unlike WinEdt). For me the ability to use the same editor across platforms (Solaris, Windows NT, Linux) is a great boon. We can even the same file system and the same teX files (with fptex and teTex sharing all the non-platform files). -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 8-Apr-2000 21:01:07-GMT,1492;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23965 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:01:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00703 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:02:45 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00700 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:02:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e38K00X05999 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:00:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:00:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: <14575.10392.824250.480057@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Ahh. Would it work (something) like this: you view the XML in > > the browser, and if you want a properly typeset version you > > download it and process it with a beast such as jade? > > no. you print from your browser, which by then has got a decent print > mode :-} Wait a minute. By when will IE and Netscape typeset as well as (pdf)tex? Allin Cottrell. 8-Apr-2000 21:08:31-GMT,2092;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24111 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00669 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:54:19 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00666 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:54:18 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12e1J9-0007gK-00; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:54:15 +0100 Received: from max5.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.5] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12e1J8-0004HH-00; Sat, 08 Apr 2000 20:54:14 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" Message-ID: <14575.10392.824250.480057@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:39:52 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: References: <14573.40720.269885.75406@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Allin Cottrell writes: > > anyone with a copy of IE5 or Mozilla (in a few months). that a big > > enough group for you? > > Ahh. Would it work (something) like this: you view the XML in > the browser, and if you want a properly typeset version you > download it and process it with a beast such as jade? no. you print from your browser, which by then has got a decent print mode :-} if you are interested in typesetting XML files directly with (pdf)TeX, look at David Carlisle's "xmltex" (on CTAN). A thing of beauty and power. Sebastian 8-Apr-2000 17:01:11-GMT,1888;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19351 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:01:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA32023 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:00:21 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA32020 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:00:20 -0400 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21017; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:00:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: Han The Thanh cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: getting afm from buggy type1 fonts In-Reply-To: <200004080944.LAA28151@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk If you have Y&Y's font manipulation package, you can try the tool PFBtoAFM. It works quite nicely. You won't get kerning information (that you will have to extract from the PFM). What are the bugs in the Type 1 fonts? Tom On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Han The Thanh wrote: > Dear all, > > my apoligize for posting this off-topic question: I need to extract afm from > some rather buggy type1 fonts, available in pfb/pfm. printafm seems to do a > reasonable job, but it fails on some of fonts, propably because of some illegal > instructions inside the fonts. pfmtoafm from Y&Y does a very good job, and tries > to do recovery in case of some buggy pfm's as well. But pfm's files do not > contain all glyphs that I need (they are available in pfb's). Does anyone know > of another way to do it? > > Thanks, > Thanh > 8-Apr-2000 23:43:40-GMT,5360;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27210 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 17:43:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01547 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:18:02 -0400 Received: from sp2n17.missouri.edu (sp2n17-t.missouri.edu [128.206.2.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01544 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:18:00 -0400 Received: from [128.206.145.124] ([128.206.145.124]) by sp2n17.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA20206 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 17:17:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 17:16:24 -0500 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Oscar Chavez Subject: utopia and pdfTeX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk If I TeX a document using the Utopia fonts with OzTeX, then dvips and the Distiller, I get a nice looking .pdf, but I cannot take advantage of hyperref capabilities. If I use pdftex, I can use hyperref features, but the font is all messed up. If I use Computer Modern (PS version) or Times, everything is OK, but if I use palatino or utopia, then I don't get bold or, as is the case with Utopia, the font is substituted completely. With Utopia, I get Adobe Sans MM and no bold leeters. I have the PS fonts in the System Folder, but pdfTeX doesn't seem to use them. The preamble of my document is as follows: --- \documentclass[twoside,pdftex]{article} \usepackage[spanish]{babel} \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc} \usepackage{multicol} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \usepackage{fancyhdr} \usepackage{utopia} \usepackage[pdftex,colorlinks=true,pdfpagemode=UseNone,citecolor=black, pdfstartview=FitBH]{hyperref} \hypersetup{ pdftitle={mytitle}, pdfcreator={La\TeX}, pdfproducer={pdf\TeX 0.14}, pdfkeywords={keyword1, keyword2}, pdfsubject={mysubject}, pdfauthor={myname}} \pdfinfo{ /CreationDate (D:20000301011500) /ModDate (D:20000408171604) }% \selectspanish \decimalpoint \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} \setlength{\parskip}{3pt} \setlength{\oddsidemargin}{0in} \setlength{\evensidemargin}{0in} \setlength{\textwidth}{6.5in} \setlength{\topmargin}{-0.5in} \setlength{\headsep}{0.375in} \setlength{\textheight}{9.5in} \pagestyle{fancy} \thispagestyle{empty} \lhead[\thepage]{\textsf{Bolet\'{\i}n N"o 1}} %some header \chead[\textsf{Marzo de 2000}]{\textsf{Marzo de 2000}} %date \rhead[\textsf{Bolet\'{\i}n N"o 1}]{\thepage} %same header \lfoot{} \cfoot{} \rfoot{} -------- This is pdfTeX error message: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (CMacTeX) (ficom1_pdf.tex{/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/Pdf/texinputs/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1999/06/01> patch level 1 [...] LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OT1/cmss/b/n' undefined (Font) using `OT1/cmss/m/n' instead on input line 49. [...] LaTeX Font Warning: Some font shapes were not available, defaults substituted. ) (see the transcript file for additional information) {/Rata/Oscar/bin/OzTeX 4.0/TeX/DVIPS/Inputs/8r.enc} Warning: pdftex (file putri8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Warning: pdftex (file putr8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Warning: pdftex (file putb8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Output written on ficom1_pdf.pdf (4 pages, 116359 bytes). Transcript written on ficom1_pdf.log. Elapsed time = 13.6 sec. ----------- I am using Tom Kiffe's pdfTeX for Macintosh. The file pdftex.paths, that tells pdfTeX where to look for things looks like: input_folders = :texmf:tex:latex:* :TeX:Inputs:* :TeX:DVIPS:* :Pdf:texinputs:* :texmf:tex:generic:* :texmf:tex:sciword: :texmf:source:generic:* :texmf:fonts:source:public:pandora: :texmf:fonts:source:public:concrete: :texmf:fonts:source:public:concmath: texmf:fonts:afm:adobe:* % pdfTeX format and pool files format_folder = :Pdf:formats:* % % tfm files tfm_folders = :TeX:TFM:* :texmf:fonts:tfm:public:pandora: :texmf:fonts:tfm:public:concrete: :texmf:fonts:tfm:public:concmath: :texmf:fonts:tfm:public:pslatex: texmf:fonts:afm:adobe:* --------- My texmf folder has, relevant to utopia and palatino fonts, the following path: texmf:fonts:afm:adobe: palatino: pplb8a.afm pplbi8a.afm pplr8a.afm pplri8a.afm utopia: putb8a.afm putbi8a.afm putr8a.afm putri8a.afm putb8a.pfb putbi8a.pfb putr8a.pfb putri8a.pfb ------- What am I doing wrong? _______________________________________________________________________ Oscar Chavez Mathematics Education 104 Stewart Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211-6180 oc918@mizzou.edu tel: (573) 882-4521 fax: (573) 882-4481 8-Apr-2000 23:49:33-GMT,1476;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27311 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 17:49:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01578 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:25:03 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA01574 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:25:02 -0400 From: tim@maths.tcd.ie Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 8 Apr 2000 23:25:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: starter querstion: how to get PDF instead of DVI? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000408042402.007a2180@localhost> from Heiko Oberdiek at "Apr 8, 2000 04:24:02 am" To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 23:25:00 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL49 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <200004082325.aa45197@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Or you can use the pdfTeX command \pdfoutput: > \pdfoutput 1 > > If (\pdf)output(_format) is set to zero, a dvi file is produced, > if it is set greater than zero, a pdf file will be generated. With respect, this is pretty crazy, since 99% of people running pdftex/pdflatex want PDF output. Why not make it the default? 9-Apr-2000 0:18:37-GMT,2003;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27837 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01811 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:06:37 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01805 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:06:31 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad (ipc37993a7.dial.wxs.nl [195.121.147.167]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FSQ05Y02.A1F; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 01:05:58 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000409010530.00b3ae90@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 01:05:30 +0200 To: Marcin Neyman From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Please help! Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <38EEFF06.B0907253@pg.gda.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:42 AM 4/8/2000 +0200, Marcin Neyman wrote: >May I ask you to show me the proper way (or a manual) how to include >MetaPost graphics in a document processed with pdfLaTeX ? > >I've read all available manuals, infos and FAQs and tried all >techniques >I could think about and I failed :-( >Probably I missed an important manual but I realy tried hard. > >Thanks in advance. > >P.S. I use teTeX distribuition in Debian Linux "slink" version \input supp-pdf.tex \convertMPtoPDF{yourfile.1}{1}{1} Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Apr-2000 0:32:34-GMT,2039;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28096 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:32:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01856 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:13:15 -0400 Received: from bkupmail.cv.net (bkupmail.cv.net [167.206.112.44]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01853 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:13:13 -0400 Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by bkupmail.cv.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA17547 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hunt108-151.optonline.net (hunt108-151.optonline.net [167.206.108.151]) by s1.optonline.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA14069 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ats@localhost) by hunt108-151.optonline.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05891; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:13:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: ats set sender to ats@acm.org using -f To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: starter querstion: how to get PDF instead of DVI? References: <200004082325.aa45197@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Mail-Copies-To: nobody From: Alan Shutko Date: 08 Apr 2000 19:10:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: tim@maths.tcd.ie's message of "Sat, 8 Apr 2000 23:25:00 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 12 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk tim@maths.tcd.ie writes: > With respect, this is pretty crazy, since 99% of people running > pdftex/pdflatex want PDF output. Why not make it the default? Well, if you get it with tetex, it is the default (set when making the format). -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! 216 days, 16 hours, 25 minutes, 1 seconds till we run away. Honk if you hate bumper stickers that say "Honk if ..." 9-Apr-2000 1:12:08-GMT,2276;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28820 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:12:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02125 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:00:42 -0400 Received: from vb.landmarknet.net (vb.landmarknet.net [207.242.12.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02122 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:00:40 -0400 Received: from THOMPSON-COZYKU ([63.75.118.51]) by vb.landmarknet.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 279; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:01:03 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000408195906.01b58de0@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 20:02:03 -0400 To: Han The Thanh , pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) From: "Y&Y, Inc." Subject: Re: getting afm from buggy type1 fonts In-Reply-To: <200004080944.LAA28151@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:44 AM 4/8/2000 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: >my apoligize for posting this off-topic question: I need to extract afm from >some rather buggy type1 fonts, available in pfb/pfm. printafm seems to do a >reasonable job, but it fails on some of fonts, propably because of some >illegal >instructions inside the fonts. pfmtoafm from Y&Y does a very good job, and >tries >to do recovery in case of some buggy pfm's as well. But pfm's files do not >contain all glyphs that I need (they are available in pfb's). Does anyone know >of another way to do it? PFAtoAFM (commercial) will work from the actual Type 1 font file. Advantage: it gets individual character bounding boxes (which are not available from PFM). Disadvantage: the PFA/PFB file does not contain kerning pairs (so PFAtoAFM takes an optional argument pointing to an AFM file made by PFMtoAFM which does include kern pairs). http://www.yandy.com/products.htm#FMP If you send me the files I'll see what comes out :-) Regards, Berthold. -- Y&Y Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (NC) 9-Apr-2000 11:07:19-GMT,3181;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10034 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 05:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA04217 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 05:56:17 -0400 Received: from tamaris.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-12.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.60] (may be forged)) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04214 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 05:56:16 -0400 Received: from mahonia.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.58) by tamaris.wanadoo.fr; 9 Apr 2000 11:56:14 +0200 Received: from [164.138.85.201] (164.138.85.201) by mahonia.wanadoo.fr; 9 Apr 2000 11:56:12 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michel.bovani@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:55:58 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Michel Bovani Subject: Re: utopia and pdfTeX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 17:16 -0500 8/04/00, Oscar Chavez wrote: >I am using Tom Kiffe's pdfTeX for Macintosh. The file pdftex.paths, >that tells pdfTeX where to look for things looks like: > >input_folders = :texmf:tex:latex:* :TeX:Inputs:* :TeX:DVIPS:* >:Pdf:texinputs:* :texmf:tex:generic:* :texmf:tex:sciword: >:texmf:source:generic:* :texmf:fonts:source:public:pandora: >:texmf:fonts:source:public:concrete: :texmf:fonts:source:public:concmath: >texmf:fonts:afm:adobe:* > >% pdfTeX format and pool files >format_folder = :Pdf:formats:* >% >% tfm files >tfm_folders = :TeX:TFM:* :texmf:fonts:tfm:public:pandora: >:texmf:fonts:tfm:public:concrete: :texmf:fonts:tfm:public:concmath: >:texmf:fonts:tfm:public:pslatex: texmf:fonts:afm:adobe:* >What am I doing wrong? If you look at pdftex.paths (default file) you will see : % header files (pdftex looks here for .map and .enc files and type 1 fonts) % pdftex automatically checks the Fonts folder in your System Folder for % type1 fonts. ps_folders = :TeX:DVIPS:Inputs:* :Pdf:headers:* So you may use fonts system folder but in this case, your fonts will be in the mac format, not in pfb format Be sure that what you use (mac or pfb) is what is referenced in you psftex map file. By default pdftex-urw.map or pdftex.map say : % Utopia is an Adobe font available from CTAN. putb8r Utopia-Bold "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16581 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:19:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04737 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:08:40 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04733 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:08:37 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12eKGK-0003w6-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 17:08:36 +0100 Received: from max46.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.46] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12eKGJ-000838-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 17:08:35 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: forwarded message Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14576.47470.460741.908931@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 18:10:06 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: forwarded message from owner-pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Return-path: Envelope-to: rahtz@ermine.ox.ac.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 15:21:43 +0100 Received: from oxmail4.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.33] helo=oxmail.ox.ac.uk) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12eIat-0001MA-00 for rahtz@ermine.ox.ac.uk; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 15:21:43 +0100 Received: from tug.org ([158.121.106.10] ident=lior) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12eIas-0004Pk-00 for sebastian.rahtz@oucs.ox.ac.uk; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:21:43 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04610; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:21:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200004091421.KAA04610@tug.org> From: owner-pdftex@tug.org To: owner-pdftex@tug.org Subject: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [Karl Berry ] Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:21:41 -0400 >From sebastian.rahtz Sun Apr 9 10:21:39 2000 Received: from freefriends.org ([63.85.55.109]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04607 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:21:39 -0400 Received: (from karl@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09287; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:19:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:19:02 -0400 From: Karl Berry Message-Id: <200004091419.KAA09287@freefriends.org> To: aburns@io.com Cc: bug-texinfo@gnu.org, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: PDF Outlines I've noticed there are some bugs in the pdfoutline conversion in texinfo.tex The PDF part of texinfo.tex needs a maintainer. I've gotten a number of bug reports on it but need to concentrate on other things for the time being. Would anyone on the pdftex list like to volunteer? Thanks, K Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 21:41:18 -0500 From: hezekiah To: bug-texinfo@gnu.org Subject: PDF Outlines I've noticed there are some bugs in the pdfoutline conversion in texinfo.tex (from the v4.0 tarball). For one, page-jumps don't seem to work for sections. Two, the page jumps for chapters can be off by a page. Three, the outline is not presented hierarchically but serially (no chapter/section etc. hierarchy). Four, the @summarycontents command produces no output for a pdf outline. I would give a diff but I was not able to get texinfo.tex producing good outlines... I'm no texpert unfortunately. Thanks, John 9-Apr-2000 17:20:42-GMT,1879;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16589 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:20:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04736 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:08:39 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04728 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:08:36 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12eKGD-0005Ux-00; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:08:29 +0100 Received: from max46.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.46] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12eKGD-0005bI-00; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 17:08:29 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14576.22979.552090.851874@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:21:55 +0100 (BST) To: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: References: <14575.10392.824250.480057@localhost.localdomain> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Allin Cottrell writes: > > no. you print from your browser, which by then has got a decent print > > mode :-} > > Wait a minute. By when will IE and Netscape typeset as well as > (pdf)tex? probably never. we are entering a typographics standards trough. will it really really really matter? just my view :-} sebastian 9-Apr-2000 17:21:22-GMT,2505;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16598 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:21:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04732 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:08:37 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04724 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:08:35 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12eKGH-0003Ud-00; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 17:08:33 +0100 Received: from max46.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.46] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12eKGG-0005xY-00; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 17:08:32 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14576.23403.848257.699814@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:28:59 +0100 (BST) To: oc918@mizzou.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: utopia and pdfTeX In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Oscar Chavez writes: > If I TeX a document using the Utopia fonts with OzTeX, then dvips and > the Distiller, I get a nice looking .pdf, but I cannot take advantage > of hyperref capabilities. why ever not??? hyperref works fine in that situation. > substituted completely. With Utopia, I get Adobe Sans MM and no bold > leeters. I have the PS fonts in the System Folder, but pdfTeX doesn't > seem to use them. are they in pdftex's psfonts.map? > > LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OT1/cmss/b/n' undefined > (Font) using `OT1/cmss/m/n' instead on input line 49. > unfortunate. utopia.sty says \renewcommand\bfdefault{b} which affects the sans as well. remove that line from utopia.sty, it isnt needed > Warning: pdftex (file putri8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading > > Warning: pdftex (file putr8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading > cant comment on that, I dont pretend to understand OzTeX setup Sebastian 9-Apr-2000 22:05:23-GMT,2297;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22216 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 16:05:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05785 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 16:52:35 -0400 Received: from mhro1.mayo.edu (mhro1.mayo.edu [129.176.100.75]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05782 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 16:52:33 -0400 Received: from daytona.mayo.edu by mhro1.mayo.edu with ESMTP for @mhro1.mayo.edu:pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:52:18 -0500 Received: from us0.mayo.edu (us0 [129.176.201.52]) by daytona.mayo.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA53150 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:52:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from us0 (us0 [129.176.201.52]) by us0.mayo.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA00933 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:51:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:51:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Pitts To: pdftex mailing list Subject: Re: Powerpoint for tetex? In-Reply-To: <200004081218.OAA17067@andersa.cs.uit.no> Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Mike, What do you do about the fact that Ghostscript seems to dither all the graphics it renders for xdvi (or anything else including gv or ghostview for that matter), even on 24-bit displays? -Todd On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Anders Andersen wrote: > > How do you get the slides properly centered? I found that when I > > used the [landscape, a4paper] options, the text seemed too far to > > the left. > > I use this script (xxdvi) on a 1024x768 screen (600pt/in document): > > #!/bin/sh > xdvi -name XXDVI -expert -p 600 -s 7 -geometry 1024x768+0+0 \ > -paper 30.2x22.64cm -xoffset 2.64cm -yoffset 3.36cm $* > > You might have to fine tune it for your environment. I also have the > following in my .fvwm2rc file to remove the borders: > > Style "XXDVI" NoTitle, NoHandles, BorderWidth 0 > > > Mike > > Anders, > > -- > Anders Andersen - - > > 10-Apr-2000 4:54:01-GMT,2318;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00474 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 22:54:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA06636 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 23:43:52 -0400 Received: from sp2n17.missouri.edu (sp2n17-t.missouri.edu [128.206.2.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06633 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 23:43:49 -0400 Received: from [128.206.228.49] (Mizzou-AS11-049.missouri.edu [128.206.228.49]) by sp2n17.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA33852; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 22:43:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 22:29:54 -0500 To: Michel Bovani , pdftex@tug.org From: Oscar Chavez Subject: Re: utopia and pdfTeX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:55 AM +0200 4/9/00, Michel Bovani wrote: > >By default pdftex-urw.map or pdftex.map say : > >% Utopia is an Adobe font available from CTAN. >putb8r Utopia-Bold "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc putbi8r Utopia-BoldItalic "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc putbo8r Utopia-Bold ".167 SlantFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" ><8r.enc putr8r Utopia-Regular "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc putri8r Utopia-Italic "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc putro8r Utopia-Regular ".167 SlantFont TeXBase1Encoding >ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc % > >So you have to modify this map (the one you have chosen) if you want >to use macfonts : >use the name of you utopia-bold file (in the font folder) instead of >putb8a.pfb Thank you!! It worked beautifully! _______________________________________________________________________ Oscar Chavez Mathematics Education 104 Stewart Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211-6180 oc918@mizzou.edu tel: (573) 882-4521 fax: (573) 882-4481 10-Apr-2000 11:22:08-GMT,2844;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08233 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 05:22:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA07626 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:07:17 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07623 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:07:15 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad (ipc379171f.dial.wxs.nl [195.121.23.31]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FSSL9600.A14; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:36:42 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000410101632.014f32d0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:16:32 +0200 To: tim@maths.tcd.ie From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: starter querstion: how to get PDF instead of DVI? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200004082325.aa45197@boole.maths.tcd.ie> References: <3.0.6.32.20000408042402.007a2180@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:25 PM 4/8/2000 +0100, tim@maths.tcd.ie wrote: >> Or you can use the pdfTeX command \pdfoutput: >> \pdfoutput 1 >> >> If (\pdf)output(_format) is set to zero, a dvi file is produced, >> if it is set greater than zero, a pdf file will be generated. > >With respect, this is pretty crazy, >since 99% of people running pdftex/pdflatex want PDF output. >Why not make it the default? (1) You can make it default by setting it in the pdftex.cfg file. (2) By doing so, you can run into troubles if your macro package needs additional pdftex code to run properly, since that should ne activated or loaded. (3) This is why for instance context always overloads the default setting ... (4) ... and lets the user explicitly ask for pdf output. (5) I suppose I belong to the 1% of the people who does use pdftex also for dvi output (quite handy for previewing and/or ps generation). (6) Look at it this way: since pdftex is also the postprocessor, what you ask is similar to saying that you want macro packages to default to supporting xdvi specials. (7) So, to summarize, setting \pdfoutput to 1 by default only makes sense when using plain tex (which does not assume extensions and so as possible by specials). I hope this clarifies it a bit. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Apr-2000 14:37:55-GMT,1752;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12299 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:37:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08112 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:23:43 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08109 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:23:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3ADNOs08196 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:23:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:23:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: <14576.22979.552090.851874@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Wait a minute. By when will IE and Netscape typeset as well as > > (pdf)tex? > > probably never. we are entering a typographics standards > trough. will it really really really matter? just my view > :-} OK, for text, at any rate, it's a matter of taste. If I just want a printout of some ephemeral text then that produced by a hypothetical browser of the fairly near future may be OK,and never mind the additional step of xml -> TeX. But (even if I'm not too hung up on typographical niceties) what are the prospects for browsers of the near future dealing properly (legibly) with complex math? Allin Cottrell. 10-Apr-2000 15:08:09-GMT,1726;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13324 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:08:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08121 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:27:09 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08118 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:27:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3ADQno08212 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:26:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:26:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: starter querstion: how to get PDF instead of DVI? In-Reply-To: <200004082325.aa45197@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 8 Apr 2000 tim@maths.tcd.ie wrote: > > If (\pdf)output(_format) is set to zero, a dvi file is produced, > > if it is set greater than zero, a pdf file will be generated. > > With respect, this is pretty crazy, since 99% of people > running pdftex/pdflatex want PDF output. Why not make it the > default? Maybe I'm part of the 1%, but since I've never seen any problems with pdftex producing dvi, I don't see any reason to keep both a tex and a pdftex executable on my system: I use pdftex for everything (with a symlink to "tex"), and then having dvi output the default is reasonable. Allin Cottrell. 10-Apr-2000 15:30:03-GMT,2780;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13962; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:30:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12481; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:30:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:30:01 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: PDFTeX Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: rotate and distiller Message-ID: Wolfgang Riedel writes on Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:28:10 +0200 about observing gratuitous rotation of text pages with Adobe Distiller 3.0 running on Sun Solaris. This is indeed a bug in Acrobat 3.0. Sadly, Acrobat 4.0 remains unavailable for UNIX platforms, and mention of UNIX on the Adobe Acrobat Web pages seems to have disappeared: see http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/ where it says Current version: 4.05 Platforms: Macintosh, Windows The subset of Acrobat Reader 4.05 is available for most current UNIX systems: see http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readermain.html Many months ago, I reported an example to the PDF-L list showing how a change in just a single comment line could provoke the gratuitous rotation! I never got a reply from anyone at Adobe about it, though some Adobe developers are frequent respondents on that list. For now, I recomment that you switch to ps2pdf, which uses ghostscript 6.01. It now supports preservation of fonts in Type 1 format. Its only deficiency is the lack of compression in bitmaps from scanned images, and that will likely be remedied in the near future (I'm a ghostscript beta tester). You can find it at ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs601/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Apr-2000 16:47:13-GMT,1603;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16398 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08504 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:23:39 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08501 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:23:37 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id QAA27246; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:22:49 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:22:49 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004101522.QAA27246@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: (message from Allin Cottrell on Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:23:24 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: xml and pdf References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > what are the > prospects for browsers of the near future dealing properly > (legibly) with complex math? Mozilla already uses the rules from appendix G of the texbook for laying out mathematics, and uses the extra font parameters in the tex math fonts that are used in those rules. The end result is currently short of tex quality. and currently it only renders to the screen, not to print, but given the rate of improvement in mozilla's math rendering, I'd say the answer to your question is `good'. David 10-Apr-2000 17:27:59-GMT,3083;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19398 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08668 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:56:09 -0400 Received: from notesmail.cs.odu.edu (notesmail.cs.odu.edu [128.82.4.165]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08665 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:56:08 -0400 From: szeil@notesmail.cs.odu.edu Reply-To: zeil@cs.odu.edu Subject: Re: java applets... To: X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0 March 30, 1999 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:55:16 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on postit/ODUCS(Release 5.0.2b |December 16, 1999) at 04/10/2000 11:55:17 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 04/08/2000 04:03:39 AM, owner-pdftex wrote: >I'm using pdfslide (with ppower4). At the moment I have some hyperlinks to >html files that have >embedded java applets. When viewing the pdf file in acroread, >the html file loads into a separate browser window and when done with the >applet >one closes the browser window and returns to reading the slides. Fine. >However, >when viewing the pdf file in a browser, the link takes one to the web page >with the applet and when one is done and goes back to the pdf file they get >returned >to the first page of the document, not the page they were on when they >jumped to html. >That's an annoyance. Is it possible to make it so that a new browser window >opens up? > Well, yes, with a bit of trickery. I have an example at http://www.cs.odu.edu/~zeil/pdfextlink/example.pdf Actually, if you watch closely, the links load an intermediatary html page with some Javascript code. The Javascript on that page opens the desired link URL in a separate browser window, then reloads the PDF document into the original window. But beware! I've found that neither Internet Explorer nor Netscape will serve pdf documents from their respective internet caches when Win9x/NT users access them via a dial-up connection (LAN connections to the internet behave differently). It's not clear if the fault lies with the browsers or with the plug-in. This means that reloading a pdf document into a browser window will require re-loading via the net precisely in those circumstances when the reader has a slow connection! Of course, my simulated "open link in other widnow" technique is no worse than opening a link in the same window and then useing the "back" button to reutrn to the original pdf. Either way, though, the time lag to reload the pdf was driving people crazy. For this reason, I no longer use pdf as a web format in circumstances where I know I will have links that people will want to follow and then return from. I only use it for "self-contained" documents or for documents that I will only access via the LAN. SJZ 10-Apr-2000 17:24:30-GMT,1617;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19143 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08661 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:53:19 -0400 Received: from obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.132.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08658 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:53:17 -0400 Received: from postman.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de by obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with Local SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:52:46 +0200 Received: from hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (wri@artus.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.200.63]) by postman.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06003 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:52:45 +0200 Message-ID: <38F1F8CD.6821B2E3@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:52:45 +0200 From: Wolfgang Riedel Organization: TU Chemnitz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFTeX Subject: Re: rotate and distiller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi again, sorry but I forgot one detail with my problem: the rotated page only occurs, if I use dvips with option "-Pwww". The file config.www will "mount" me appropriate fonts for presentation of slides. Regards, Wolfgang -- w.riedel@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de 10-Apr-2000 14:55:33-GMT,3388;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12822 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 08:55:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08128 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:28:20 -0400 Received: from obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.132.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08125 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:28:18 -0400 Received: from postman.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de by obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with Local SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:28:13 +0200 Received: from hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (wri@artus.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.200.63]) by postman.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13148 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:28:12 +0200 Message-ID: <38F1D6EA.351C5B1A@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:28:10 +0200 From: Wolfgang Riedel Organization: TU Chemnitz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFTeX Subject: rotate and distiller Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------05A8926C00C99BE216F04E9A" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------05A8926C00C99BE216F04E9A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi TeXies, are there any ideas to solve the following problem: I've a LaTeX file of 2 pages (attached to this mail). On the first one there is a table with one header line and some text lines. The entries in the header line are rotated because of text lenghts. The content of the table itself and the content of the next page are really uninteresting. I create (via latex) a dvi file and then with dvips a postscript file. By Acrobat Distiller I convert it to pdf format. In the result, the orientation of the first page is false! The whole page is rotated by 90 degrees. The second page is again in right orientation. I've checked this behaviour by many tries. The rotated first page only occurs, if there are more than 1 rotated text pieces on it. On the other hand, this effect does NOT happen, if there are more rotated text pieces on the second text page. (In reality, I have an large table of about 100 pages. On each page the table has the identically header line, but the table contents differs. First pages - 50 or so - have false orientation, and suddenly the rest of the file is correct.) Is this a bug of distiller or a bug of rotating style? Or a feature? I'm running tetex-1.0 on Linux, rotating package "1997/09/26, v2.13", the distiller 3.0 is running on Solaris. Regards, Wolfgang -- w.riedel@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de --------------05A8926C00C99BE216F04E9A Content-Type: application/x-tex; name="test6.tex" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="test6.tex" \documentclass{article} \usepackage{rotating} \begin{document} \Large \begin{tabular}{p{2.5cm}||c|c} & \begin{sideways}Dateiformat \end{sideways} & \begin{sideways}Spalte \end{sideways} \\ %Spalte \\ \hline\hline Software & abc & xyz \\ \hline \end{tabular} \newpage Das ist nun ganz normaler Text. \end{document} --------------05A8926C00C99BE216F04E9A-- 10-Apr-2000 15:30:03-GMT,2780;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13962; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:30:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12481; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:30:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:30:01 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: PDFTeX Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: rotate and distiller Message-ID: Wolfgang Riedel writes on Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:28:10 +0200 about observing gratuitous rotation of text pages with Adobe Distiller 3.0 running on Sun Solaris. This is indeed a bug in Acrobat 3.0. Sadly, Acrobat 4.0 remains unavailable for UNIX platforms, and mention of UNIX on the Adobe Acrobat Web pages seems to have disappeared: see http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/ where it says Current version: 4.05 Platforms: Macintosh, Windows The subset of Acrobat Reader 4.05 is available for most current UNIX systems: see http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readermain.html Many months ago, I reported an example to the PDF-L list showing how a change in just a single comment line could provoke the gratuitous rotation! I never got a reply from anyone at Adobe about it, though some Adobe developers are frequent respondents on that list. For now, I recomment that you switch to ps2pdf, which uses ghostscript 6.01. It now supports preservation of fonts in Type 1 format. Its only deficiency is the lack of compression in bitmaps from scanned images, and that will likely be remedied in the near future (I'm a ghostscript beta tester). You can find it at ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs601/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Apr-2000 17:28:04-GMT,3317;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19407 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:28:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08556 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:30:11 -0400 Received: from csc-sun.math.utah.edu (root@csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08553 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:30:08 -0400 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13962; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:30:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12481; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:30:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:30:01 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: PDFTeX Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: rotate and distiller Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Wolfgang Riedel writes on Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:28:10 +0200 about observing gratuitous rotation of text pages with Adobe Distiller 3.0 running on Sun Solaris. This is indeed a bug in Acrobat 3.0. Sadly, Acrobat 4.0 remains unavailable for UNIX platforms, and mention of UNIX on the Adobe Acrobat Web pages seems to have disappeared: see http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/ where it says Current version: 4.05 Platforms: Macintosh, Windows The subset of Acrobat Reader 4.05 is available for most current UNIX systems: see http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readermain.html Many months ago, I reported an example to the PDF-L list showing how a change in just a single comment line could provoke the gratuitous rotation! I never got a reply from anyone at Adobe about it, though some Adobe developers are frequent respondents on that list. For now, I recomment that you switch to ps2pdf, which uses ghostscript 6.01. It now supports preservation of fonts in Type 1 format. Its only deficiency is the lack of compression in bitmaps from scanned images, and that will likely be remedied in the near future (I'm a ghostscript beta tester). You can find it at ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs601/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Apr-2000 20:05:18-GMT,1956;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24028 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:05:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09727 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:43:55 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09723 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:43:54 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12ejA2-0006kD-00; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:43:46 +0100 Received: from max23.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.23] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12ejA2-0001E6-00; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:43:46 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14578.12030.367354.598152@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:43:58 +0100 (BST) To: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: References: <14576.22979.552090.851874@localhost.localdomain> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Allin Cottrell writes: > not too hung up on typographical niceties) what are the > prospects for browsers of the near future dealing properly > (legibly) with complex math? surprisingly good. at least 4 browsers have MathML support of one kind or another. we could, if you like, skip the hoary old chestnuts of a) TeXxies dont like MathML, and b) how do you convert TeX to MathML :-} Sebastian 10-Apr-2000 20:19:41-GMT,3119;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24506 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:19:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA09832 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:01:59 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09829 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:01:57 -0400 Received: from max130.public.ox.ac.uk (max130.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.130]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA07908; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:01:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:01:22 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Wolfgang Riedel cc: PDFTeX Subject: Re: rotate and distiller In-Reply-To: <38F1D6EA.351C5B1A@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Wolfgang Riedel wrote: > Hi TeXies, > are there any ideas to solve the following problem: > I've a LaTeX file of 2 pages (attached to this mail). On the first one > there is a table with one header line and some text lines. The entries > in the header line are rotated because of text lenghts. The content of > the table itself and the content of the next page are really > uninteresting. I create (via latex) a dvi file and then with dvips a > postscript file. By Acrobat Distiller I convert it to pdf format. In the > result, the orientation of the first page is false! The whole page is > rotated by 90 degrees. The second page is again in right orientation. > I've checked this behaviour by many tries. The rotated first page only > occurs, if there are more than 1 rotated text pieces on it. On the other > hand, this effect does NOT happen, if there are more rotated text pieces > on the second text page. > (In reality, I have an large table of about 100 pages. On each page the > table has the identically header line, but the table contents differs. > First pages - 50 or so - have false orientation, and suddenly the rest > of the file is correct.) > Is this a bug of distiller or a bug of rotating style? Or a feature? Of distiller (or possibly dvips). It happens in several other ways. For example, on a landscape file (dvips -t) a page with only a figure included is rendered in portrait. > I'm running tetex-1.0 on Linux, rotating package "1997/09/26, v2.13", > the distiller 3.0 is running on Solaris. Seems to happen on Acrobat 4.0 on NT too. BTW, this is not a pdftex Q, and I have not seen the problem in pdftex. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 10-Apr-2000 20:32:07-GMT,1958;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24895 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:32:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA09881 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:04:56 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA09877 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:04:50 -0400 From: tim@maths.tcd.ie Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 10 Apr 2000 20:04:46 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: starter querstion: how to get PDF instead of DVI? In-Reply-To: from Allin Cottrell at "Apr 10, 2000 09:26:49 am" To: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:04:45 +0100 (BST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL49 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <200004102004.aa17026@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Maybe I'm part of the 1%, but since I've never seen any problems > with pdftex producing dvi, I don't see any reason to keep both a > tex and a pdftex executable on my system: I use pdftex for > everything (with a symlink to "tex"), and then having dvi output > the default is reasonable. But people do have problems, otherwise the question would not arise in ctt (as for example at the start of the present "train of thought"). In fact it happens much less frequently because teTeX has done exactly what I suggested, and made PDF output the default. I hadn't realised this, as I had assumed that I got PDF because of the config changes I made some time ago, but which are apparently now not necessary. So the issue is probably moot (nice word). 10-Apr-2000 20:42:18-GMT,1682;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25270 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:42:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10070 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:26:48 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA10066 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:26:42 -0400 From: tim@maths.tcd.ie Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 10 Apr 2000 20:26:40 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: from Allin Cottrell at "Apr 10, 2000 09:23:24 am" To: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:26:39 +0100 (BST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL49 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <200004102026.aa17866@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > But (even if I'm > not too hung up on typographical niceties) what are the > prospects for browsers of the near future dealing properly > (legibly) with complex math? Isn't this more or less there already, in IE5 and Mozilla (=Netscape-6)? I'm quite impressed with the IBM techexplorer plug-in. However, I do think the TeX/LaTeX community has been surprisingly unforthcoming in pressing the claims of DVI as a browser component. [I was shocked at SPQR's philistine views that looks don't matter on the Web.] 10-Apr-2000 23:42:52-GMT,2357;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00407 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:42:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11608 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:27:06 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11602 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:27:00 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.148.43]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAB61C0; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:26:28 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000410235231.014e3940@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:52:31 +0200 To: Allin Cottrell From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: starter querstion: how to get PDF instead of DVI? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <200004082325.aa45197@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:26 AM 4/10/2000 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote: >On Sat, 8 Apr 2000 tim@maths.tcd.ie wrote: > >> > If (\pdf)output(_format) is set to zero, a dvi file is produced, >> > if it is set greater than zero, a pdf file will be generated. >> >> With respect, this is pretty crazy, since 99% of people >> running pdftex/pdflatex want PDF output. Why not make it the >> default? > >Maybe I'm part of the 1%, but since I've never seen any problems >with pdftex producing dvi, I don't see any reason to keep both a >tex and a pdftex executable on my system: I use pdftex for >everything (with a symlink to "tex"), and then having dvi output >the default is reasonable. Right, but even better: when you use pdfetex, you also have the benefits of etex. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Apr-2000 23:43:24-GMT,4017;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00431 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11607 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:27:03 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11601 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:26:59 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.148.43]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA61C0; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:26:26 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000410235112.00aac3f0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:51:12 +0200 To: Allin Cottrell From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: xml and pdf Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <14576.22979.552090.851874@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:23 AM 4/10/2000 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote: >On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > >> > Wait a minute. By when will IE and Netscape typeset as well as >> > (pdf)tex? >> >> probably never. we are entering a typographics standards >> trough. will it really really really matter? just my view >> :-} > >OK, for text, at any rate, it's a matter of taste. If I just >want a printout of some ephemeral text then that produced by a >hypothetical browser of the fairly near future may be OK,and >never mind the additional step of xml -> TeX. But (even if I'm >not too hung up on typographical niceties) what are the >prospects for browsers of the near future dealing properly >(legibly) with complex math? Imagine much faster processors and pdftex will suddenly become an instant typesetting engine and there will be not much difference between xml -> ie -> screen and xml -> tex -> screen. Try to load a pretty large and complex html doc (a few hundred k with some script stuff taking care of indexes, like ns help or so) and you see a delay in the formatting. In the end, to do a proper job, one needs something tex anyway. The main point is that when one wants to present his material in a certain way, proper coding (for reuse) and design of styles (for certain purposes) simply demands skills not much different from keying in (proper) tex and defining (proper) styles. The main advantage of xml over pure tex as storage format is that the dtd forces (or in many cases limits) input, and therefore increases portability. No authors fooling around with macros. Actually, typesetting xml input in many cases is more simple than typesetting tex, since its restricted. On the other hand, xsl style sheets can look as unreadable as tex styles -) There was a time that \ and {} were strange animals, but since everyone makes his html homepages using <> and &l; coding in ascii is hip. Of course, and I suppose that sebastian is referring to that future, at a certain moment typesetting will die, since they pop the info right into your head. Personally, I think that a properly typeset document stimulates reading, which is why I probably hate reading most www pages. In this respect it is interesting to see that most documents describing xml and alike look terrible, even after so many years. Quality hardly seems to be an issue, while the fact that it's coded properly would make typesetting a breeze -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Apr-2000 0:20:38-GMT,1289;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01340 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:20:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11968 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:08:15 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11965 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:08:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3AN7fo23206 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:07:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:07:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: who gets the reply In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000410235112.00aac3f0@pop.wxs.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Any chance of getting the "reply to" set to the list? It's a bit of a pain getting duplicates of all responses when you post -- even if the responses are learned, witty and/or helpful :^) Allin Cottrell. 11-Apr-2000 0:48:29-GMT,2763;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01999 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:48:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12182 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:39:01 -0400 Received: from sp2n17.missouri.edu (sp2n17-t.missouri.edu [128.206.2.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12179 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:38:59 -0400 Received: from [128.206.228.89] (Mizzou-AS11-089.missouri.edu [128.206.228.89]) by sp2n17.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA94808; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:38:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14576.23403.848257.699814@localhost.localdomain> References: <14576.23403.848257.699814@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:38:20 -0500 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Oscar Chavez Subject: Re: utopia and pdfTeX Cc: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:28 AM +0100 4/9/00, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > >Oscar Chavez writes: > > If I TeX a document using the Utopia fonts with OzTeX, then dvips and > > the Distiller, I get a nice looking .pdf, but I cannot take advantage > > of hyperref capabilities. > >why ever not??? hyperref works fine in that situation. Not exactly. If I use hyperref and pdfTeX, then the links created by hyperref are not lost as they do when the .ps file is distilled. With pdfTeX I get clickable links, with Distiller I get no links (not color, not clickable). With hyperref and dvips followed by Distiller, these commands do nothing: \hypersetup{ pdftitle={Bolet\'\i n de FICOM No. 1}, pdfcreator={La\TeX}, pdfproducer={pdf\TeX 0.14}, pdfkeywords={FICOM, matem\'aticas, bolet\'in, competiciones}, pdfsubject={Matem\'aticas}, pdfauthor={\'Oscar Ch\'avez}} In the Document info... I don't get any of these. On the other hand, with pdfTeX and hyperref, I can change the creator, title, keywords, etc. Now I have pdfTeX working perfectly, but for one little detail. My .pdf produced by dvips + Distiller is 84 kb, the one produced by pdfTeX is 148 kb. Why is that? Both seem to embed the utopia font that I am using. The compression level for pdfTeX is set at 9. _______________________________________________________________________ Oscar Chavez Mathematics Education 104 Stewart Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211-6180 oc918@mizzou.edu tel: (573) 882-4521 fax: (573) 882-4481 11-Apr-2000 8:04:24-GMT,2170;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11410 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 02:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14286 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 02:57:25 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA14283 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 02:57:23 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id IAA04450; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:56:52 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200004110656.IAA04908@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id IAA04908; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:56:52 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:56:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Meta-Question: What's on topic on pdftex@tug.org To: ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Cc: wolfgang.riedel@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de, pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: JKexBCev8+CUt4hxaji/Kg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:01:22 +0100 (BST), Prof Brian D Ripley: > BTW, this is not a pdftex Q, and I have not seen the problem in pdftex. Oops, sorry, that's my fault. I motivated Wolfgang to pose his question here. I had the impression that all questions concerning "TeX and PDF" were on topic here, not only those belonging strictly to pdftex. What would be the appropriate forum for questions about hyperref, pdfscreen, pdfslide, distiller or whatever is not strictly dependent on pdftex? news:comp.text.tex? regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 11-Apr-2000 8:04:47-GMT,2157;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11427 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 02:04:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14252 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 02:43:36 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA14249 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 02:43:33 -0400 Received: from max174.public.ox.ac.uk (max174.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.174]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA09866; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:43:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:43:02 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Allin Cottrell cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: who gets the reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Allin Cottrell wrote: > Any chance of getting the "reply to" set to the list? It's a > bit of a pain getting duplicates of all responses when you post > -- even if the responses are learned, witty and/or helpful :^) Does not that mean that replies to non-member submissions would only go to the list, not the non-member? As I understand our local netiqette advice, it is polite to send a copy to poster as well as to the list. It may be less necessary these days as email servers are more reliable, but when one got say 95% of the list it was annoying when the 5% included the reply to one's question. I would rather have the risk of having two copies than none. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 11-Apr-2000 8:56:20-GMT,2501;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12385 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 02:56:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA14392 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:20:02 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14387 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:19:59 -0400 Received: from max174.public.ox.ac.uk (max174.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.174]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA09990; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:19:52 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:19:25 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Stephan Lehmke cc: wolfgang.riedel@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Meta-Question: What's on topic on pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200004110656.IAA04908@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Stephan Lehmke wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:01:22 +0100 (BST), Prof Brian D Ripley: > > > BTW, this is not a pdftex Q, and I have not seen the problem in pdftex. > > Oops, sorry, that's my fault. I motivated Wolfgang to pose his > question here. [ That was not intended to be a negative remark, more encouragement that using pdftex would likely solve the problem. No apologies needed. ] > I had the impression that all questions concerning "TeX and PDF" > were on topic here, not only those belonging strictly to > pdftex. Sebastian as the list owner can tell us precisely, but I understood that while it was strictly pdftex, most of us had wider interests but those did not extend to long discussions of dvipdf vs dvipdfm vs dvips+distiller vs pdftex (for example). There seems to be no mention of the list, just its archives, on www.tug.org/applications/pdftex, which seems an omission, and the FAQ there just says `pdfTeX's mailing list'. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 11-Apr-2000 9:18:44-GMT,2090;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12810 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:18:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14576 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:10:17 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA14573 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:10:14 -0400 Received: from remote142-158.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.158] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12evkQ-0000EE-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:10:10 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000411100027.3df7a7d2@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:00:27 +0200 To: Oscar Chavez From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: utopia and pdfTeX Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <14576.23403.848257.699814@localhost.localdomain> <14576.23403.848257.699814@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 18:38 10.04.2000 -0500, Oscar Chavez wrote: >With hyperref and dvips followed by Distiller, these commands do nothing: > >\hypersetup{ > pdftitle={Bolet\'\i n de FICOM No. 1}, > pdfcreator={La\TeX}, > pdfproducer={pdf\TeX 0.14}, > pdfkeywords={FICOM, matem\'aticas, bolet\'in, competiciones}, > pdfsubject={Matem\'aticas}, > pdfauthor={\'Oscar Ch\'avez}} > >In the Document info... I don't get any of these. * Correct hyperref driver? Check the .log file:, it should contain the line *hyperref using driver *hdvips* * The informations are in the PostScript file? grep Author *.ps * Which versions do you use? * Minimal test file? Yours sincerely Heiko 11-Apr-2000 9:34:22-GMT,1872;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA13099 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:34:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14592 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:21:13 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14589 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:21:12 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12evv5-0005Vk-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:21:11 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12evv4-0004Zl-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:21:10 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14578.57461.260753.671221@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:21:09 +0100 (BST) To: tim@maths.tcd.ie Cc: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: <200004102026.aa17866@boole.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200004102026.aa17866@boole.maths.tcd.ie> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk tim@maths.tcd.ie writes: > However, I do think the TeX/LaTeX community > has been surprisingly unforthcoming > in pressing the claims of DVI as a browser component. one of the few signs of sense in the TeX community, deciding not to fight a losing battle :-} > [I was shocked at SPQR's philistine views > that looks don't matter on the Web.] since that was not, remotely, what I said, you can be unshocked sebastian 11-Apr-2000 9:41:57-GMT,2380;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA13228 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:41:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14753 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:40:08 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14749 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:40:06 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12ewDO-0005w6-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:40:06 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12ewDN-0002ou-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:40:05 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14578.58596.533566.231201@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:40:04 +0100 (BST) To: pragma@wxs.nl Cc: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000410235112.00aac3f0@pop.wxs.nl> References: <14576.22979.552090.851874@localhost.localdomain> <3.0.6.32.20000410235112.00aac3f0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen writes: > Imagine much faster processors and pdftex will suddenly become an instant > typesetting engine and there will be not much difference between xml -> ie > -> screen and xml -> tex -> screen. I have tried imagining.... no, I can't. TeX in my mind is still too slow and huge. > In the end, to > do a proper job, one needs something tex anyway. thats a moot point, I think. > The main point is that when one wants to present his material in a certain > way, proper coding (for reuse) and design of styles (for certain purposes) > simply demands skills not much different from keying in (proper) tex and > defining (proper) styles. true. but if you use TeX, your stuff is useable only by TeX > The main advantage of xml over pure tex as storage format is that the dtd > forces (or in many cases limits) input no, the main advantage is that there is a choice of software! and a written standard Sebastian 11-Apr-2000 9:43:17-GMT,2185;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA13243 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:43:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14685 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:34:59 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14682 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:34:57 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12ew8O-0002az-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:34:56 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12ew8O-0002Ha-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:34:56 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14578.58287.202559.101120@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:34:55 +0100 (BST) To: oc918@mizzou.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: utopia and pdfTeX In-Reply-To: References: <14576.23403.848257.699814@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Not exactly. If I use hyperref and pdfTeX, then the links created by > hyperref are not lost as they do when the .ps file is distilled. With > pdfTeX I get clickable links, with Distiller I get no links (not > color, not clickable). perhaps you are not using the right back end for hyperref? all this stuff was developed for the dvips+Distiller route, before pdftex came along. > Now I have pdfTeX working perfectly, but for one little detail. My > .pdf produced by dvips + Distiller is 84 kb, the one produced by > pdfTeX is 148 kb. Why is that? Both seem to embed the utopia font > that I am using. The compression level for pdfTeX is set at 9. Distiller subsets bitmap pictures, is one possible reason sebastian 11-Apr-2000 11:26:11-GMT,2549;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA15129 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:26:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14935 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:06:41 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14932 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:06:39 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad (ipc3798c86.dial.wxs.nl [195.121.140.134]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FSUG8F01.Q0Q; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:43:27 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000411091534.007fbca0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:15:34 +0200 To: tim@maths.tcd.ie From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: xml and pdf Cc: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200004102026.aa17866@boole.maths.tcd.ie> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:26 PM 4/10/2000 +0100, tim@maths.tcd.ie wrote: >However, I do think the TeX/LaTeX community >has been surprisingly unforthcoming >in pressing the claims of DVI as a browser component. It would be ok (and fast too) if the fonts or at least the metrics were packaged with the format (and graphics of course). DVI was never designed to be really portable. >[I was shocked at SPQR's philistine views >that looks don't matter on the Web.] Well, there used to be a time when publishers were quite interested in the stuff they published, made sure it looked well were proud of it, had typo departments, even printing ones, but that's fading now. They more and more become brokers of information (apart from the real literature publishers and some niche ones). [I used to be shocked about views like this, but the fact that SPQR is still maintaining this list gives me hope. I think he even likes tex, if only because it can typeset xml!] Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Apr-2000 11:30:24-GMT,1676;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA15200 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:30:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA15052 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:25:17 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA15049 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:24:35 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id LAA20565 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:23:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA11528; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:38:49 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:38:49 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200004110938.LAA11528@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: <200004101522.QAA27246@nag.co.uk> References: <200004101522.QAA27246@nag.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » Mozilla already uses the rules from appendix G of the texbook for » laying out mathematics, and uses the extra font parameters in the tex » math fonts that are used in those rules. what fonts? 11-Apr-2000 14:01:15-GMT,3797;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18373 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:01:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16113 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:39:01 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16110 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:38:59 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.22.234]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAC388E; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:35:00 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000411113058.01375100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:30:58 +0200 To: Sebastian Rahtz From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: xml and pdf Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <14578.58596.533566.231201@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <3.0.6.32.20000410235112.00aac3f0@pop.wxs.nl> <14576.22979.552090.851874@localhost.localdomain> <3.0.6.32.20000410235112.00aac3f0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:40 AM 4/11/2000 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: >I have tried imagining.... no, I can't. TeX in my mind is still too >slow and huge. Then how about xsl processors? >true. but if you use TeX, your stuff is useable only by TeX Sure, but coding in xml and processing by tex is a pretty nice way to go. > > The main advantage of xml over pure tex as storage format is that the dtd > > forces (or in many cases limits) input > >no, the main advantage is that there is a choice of software! and a >written standard Eh, I assume you're still in the process of rewriting the chapters in the web companion about xsl? As far as I'm involved, xml is a nice coding standard, that involves angle brackets, but the real problem is (still growing) that simply using angle brackets is not enough. Proper structure, thinking ahead etc is pretty important and does not come with the xml method by default. In this respect nothing has changed in the 'since I can use a typewriter I'm a typographer' mess. I'm sure you can bring up examples of (large) publishers who did quite some recoding of sgml stuff simply because it was not future safe. On the one hand the possibilities will increase, since due to more rigurous source coding one can do better predictions and have more control, but at the other hand, documents will loose much of their attraction. (But not that dramatic compared to the already large amount of crap around.) And standards ... the sooner the better ... but beware of the everlasting claims of software people and standard makers that 'their' cooked up thing is 'the' ultimate standard. At least for a few thousand years we have sort of standard glyphs and ways to arrange them, but how many computer tapes of 20 yeare back can still be read? The same will happen to 50 year old docs coded in some ML: programming will be needed to handle them. TeX at least has one strong point in this area: it still runs, which is not something I can say of my huge and old ie and ns binaries (which are slow too). So, to a large extend I share your views, but for the moment I keep my feet on the ground. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Apr-2000 14:10:35-GMT,2217;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18618 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:10:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16257 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:53:46 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16254 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:53:45 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.22.234]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAB604F; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:53:12 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000411135223.013a7100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:52:23 +0200 To: Stephan Lehmke From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Meta-Question: What's on topic on pdftex@tug.org Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200004110656.IAA04908@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:56 AM 4/11/2000 +0200, Stephan Lehmke wrote: >On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:01:22 +0100 (BST), Prof Brian D Ripley: > >> BTW, this is not a pdftex Q, and I have not seen the problem in pdftex. So is 90% of the questions. >Oops, sorry, that's my fault. I motivated Wolfgang to pose his >question here. Ok, since it's pdf and tex. >I had the impression that all questions concerning "TeX and PDF" >were on topic here, not only those belonging strictly to >pdftex. You're sort of right, since this list is slowly turning into a pdf* list discussing 'how to do this or that' instead of pdftex fundamentals. So. in this sense, posting your quetions here is ok -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Apr-2000 14:11:34-GMT,2421;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18651 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:11:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16160 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:44:29 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16157 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:44:27 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12ez5l-00000g-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:44:25 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12ez5k-0006A2-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:44:24 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14579.4120.179964.563459@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:44:24 +0100 (BST) To: pragma@wxs.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000411113058.01375100@pop.wxs.nl> References: <3.0.6.32.20000410235112.00aac3f0@pop.wxs.nl> <14576.22979.552090.851874@localhost.localdomain> <3.0.6.32.20000411113058.01375100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen writes: > At 09:40 AM 4/11/2000 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > >I have tried imagining.... no, I can't. TeX in my mind is still too > >slow and huge. > > Then how about xsl processors? talking of off-topic... but anyway, XSL processors are nice and fast, thanks > >true. but if you use TeX, your stuff is useable only by TeX > > Sure, but coding in xml and processing by tex is a pretty nice way to go. speaking as one who has developed premature senility doing just that, I wonder... > As far as I'm involved, xml is a nice coding standard, that involves angle > brackets, but the real problem is (still growing) that simply using angle > brackets is not enough. Proper structure, thinking ahead etc is pretty > important and does not come with the xml method by default very fair point. that why we have standards like Docbook and TEI we had better stop this discussion on the pdftex list and keep it for TUG2000... Sebastian 11-Apr-2000 14:25:57-GMT,1875;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18954 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:25:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16424 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:11:11 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16421 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:11:09 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12ezVc-0000e3-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:11:08 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12ezVc-0000SX-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:11:08 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14579.5724.107277.427783@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:11:08 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Meta-Question: What's on topic on pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <200004110656.IAA04908@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Prof Brian D Ripley writes: > Sebastian as the list owner can tell us precisely, but I understood that > while it was strictly pdftex, most of us had wider interests but those did > not extend to long discussions of dvipdf vs dvipdfm vs dvips+distiller vs > pdftex (for example). quite. the key word there is "long". sort-of off-topic is fine, so long as it does not drag on. Sebastian 11-Apr-2000 14:36:16-GMT,2007;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19255 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:36:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16523 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:19:11 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16520 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:19:05 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id NAA19510; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:18:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:18:30 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004111218.NAA19510@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <200004111225.OAA18368@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> (message from Thierry Bouche on Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:25:54 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: xml and pdf References: <200004101522.QAA27246@nag.co.uk> <200004110938.LAA11528@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <200004111206.NAA21534@nag.co.uk> <200004111225.OAA18368@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Of course, so the typical math print will be Times/Helv/Courier (or > Georgia/Verdana/Andale ?!) text next to CM maths... Time to look for > my gun again... well I just listed what amounts to all the freely available math fonts, You can't expect the folks working on the rendering engine to be designing some new fonts at the same time, can you? CM math against pretty much anything will look fairly bad (unless of course you compare to the current practice of using a gif image of cm math, which must be worse:-) But mathtype and wolfram fonts claimed to be designed for Times, and the STIX group (responsible for getting a whole host of math characters added to unicode last month) is still promising to commission some freely available fonts. David 11-Apr-2000 14:37:45-GMT,2023;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19283 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:37:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16432 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:11:42 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16429 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:11:35 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id OAA29877; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:11:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id OAA18368; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:25:54 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:25:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200004111225.OAA18368@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: David Carlisle Cc: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: <200004111206.NAA21534@nag.co.uk> References: <200004101522.QAA27246@nag.co.uk> <200004110938.LAA11528@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <200004111206.NAA21534@nag.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Concernant « Re: xml and pdf », David Carlisle écrit : « » » > what fonts? » » Currently mozilla's mathml group has setups for » the ams CM math symbol fonts, Wolfram/Mathematica fonts, » mathtype/equation editor MT Extra font. Of course, so the typical math print will be Times/Helv/Courier (or Georgia/Verdana/Andale ?!) text next to CM maths... Time to look for my gun again... Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. 11-Apr-2000 14:43:36-GMT,2411;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19405 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:43:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16373 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:07:03 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16370 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:07:01 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id NAA21534; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:06:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:06:08 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004111206.NAA21534@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <200004110938.LAA11528@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> (message from Thierry Bouche on Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:38:49 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: xml and pdf References: <200004101522.QAA27246@nag.co.uk> <200004110938.LAA11528@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > what fonts? Currently mozilla's mathml group has setups for the ams CM math symbol fonts, Wolfram/Mathematica fonts, mathtype/equation editor MT Extra font. Probably only the CM font setup currently has the metric information to make full use of the layout rules, I haven't checked recently. However the point is, that it's getting better all the time, I am of course a big fan of TeX, but in a world where your average web browser has lifted the math layout code, and perhaps next the line/breaking hyphenation code, from TeX, the cost/benefit balance of using a niche system like TeX as opposed to a mass market system that allows orders of magnitude more people to read your document is rather different from the cost/benefit balance at the time that many of us started using TeX. For books, and other published material TeX (or a son-of-tex like pdfetex) still has an imporatnt role, and I doubt whether chosing file/print from your browser menu will ever compete there, but for electronic distribution of the kind of document that probably makes up the bulk of `day-to-day' latex use, I would expect that XML documents and XML rendering in a browser, perhaps backed up by a TeX based print system, will rapidly become the norm. David 11-Apr-2000 14:45:33-GMT,2328;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19478 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:45:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16652 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:28:38 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16649 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:28:19 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id OAA00847; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:27:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id OAA18941; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:42:41 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:42:41 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200004111242.OAA18941@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: David Carlisle CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: <200004111218.NAA19510@nag.co.uk> References: <200004101522.QAA27246@nag.co.uk> <200004110938.LAA11528@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <200004111206.NAA21534@nag.co.uk> <200004111225.OAA18368@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <200004111218.NAA19510@nag.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » You can't expect the folks working on the rendering engine to be » designing some new fonts at the same time, can you? Ah! dreaming of a font-free rendering engine;-) Perfection at last! » But mathtype and Afaik, Euclid is plain CM » wolfram yes, these are Times-compatible. » fonts claimed to be designed for Times, and the STIX group What we'd need indeed is something like a meta-math-symbol-font (multiple master with a Vox-AtypI axis?) with parameters that could be modified to accomodate honestly any font design (of course alphabetical chars or letter-like symbols are out of reach, but they should be available in unicode fonts...) Thierry Bouche 11-Apr-2000 14:58:35-GMT,1856;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19869 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:58:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17258 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:50:20 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17255 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:50:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3BDno412507 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:49:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:49:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: who gets the reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote: > > Any chance of getting the "reply to" set to the list? It's a > > bit of a pain getting duplicates of all responses when you post > > -- even if the responses are learned, witty and/or helpful :^) > > Does not that mean that replies to non-member submissions > would only go to the list, not the non-member? Yes, unless people deliberately directed them to the non-member. But as it stands the default is duplicates to everyone. > As I understand our local netiqette advice, it is polite to > send a copy to poster as well as to the list... OK, it's not a very big deal, but I am on and have been on many lists, and this is currently the only one that has "reply to" set to the poster. Allin Cottrell. 11-Apr-2000 14:59:58-GMT,1710;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19893 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:59:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17224 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:45:36 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17221 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:45:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3BDj6o12273 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:45:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:45:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 11 Apr 2000, Ed L Cashin wrote: > There have been times when, after using a large macropackage for some > time, I've used plain TeX to typeset a large document on a 400MHz > PIII, and I thought that I had done something wrong -- I thought that > the document hadn't been processed, when in fact, the execution time > was just really short! Similarly, i helped a friend install TeX on a dual-processor machine with .5GB RAM. When we viewed some documents it seemed to me that the display was a little slow -- until I realized that, being a new installation, it was generating all the PK fonts from scratch, at amazing speed. Allin Cottrell. 11-Apr-2000 15:06:26-GMT,2626;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20147 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:06:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17154 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:36:55 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17151 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:36:54 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18880; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:36:52 -0400 (EDT) To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: pragma@wxs.nl, cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf References: <14576.22979.552090.851874@localhost.localdomain> <3.0.6.32.20000410235112.00aac3f0@pop.wxs.nl> <14578.58596.533566.231201@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> From: Ed L Cashin Date: 11 Apr 2000 09:36:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: Sebastian Rahtz's message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:40:04 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz writes: > Hans Hagen writes: > > Imagine much faster processors and pdftex will suddenly become an instant > > typesetting engine and there will be not much difference between xml -> ie > > -> screen and xml -> tex -> screen. > > I have tried imagining.... no, I can't. TeX in my mind is still too > slow and huge. There have been times when, after using a large macropackage for some time, I've used plain TeX to typeset a large document on a 400MHz PIII, and I thought that I had done something wrong -- I thought that the document hadn't been processed, when in fact, the execution time was just really short! jane:1:ecashin /tmp$ time pdftex tab_form This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13c (Web2C 7.3) ... Output written on tab_form.pdf (1 page, 21617 bytes). Transcript written on tab_form.log. 0.11user 0.02system 0:00.14elapsed 92%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (267major+394minor)pagefaults 0swaps jane:1:ecashin /tmp$ Fourteen hundredths of a second is pretty snappy for short documents. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 11-Apr-2000 15:10:33-GMT,2330;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20292 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:10:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17119 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:27:04 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17116 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:27:02 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA17908 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:26:58 -0400 (EDT) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: who gets the reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ed L Cashin Date: 11 Apr 2000 09:26:57 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Allin Cottrell writes: > Any chance of getting the "reply to" set to the list? It's a > bit of a pain getting duplicates of all responses when you post > -- even if the responses are learned, witty and/or helpful :^) Please, please don't! It is contrary to the standards for internet mail to arbitrarily change the headers. It's the job of the email client software to conform to the standards; it's not necessary, and it is destructive, to try to make the headers violate standards just to accomodate email clients. Personally, I've never been bothered by duplicate replies, but if you don't like them, you could look into trying a more powerful email client. gnus, for example, can recognize duplicate mail by the message ID, so that you only see any message once. I've also seen people putting special headers into their outgoing mail. Mail-Copies-To: never To use that header is to work with the internet instead of breaking it. For more information, see: http://www.newsreaders.com/misc/mail-copies-to.html -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 11-Apr-2000 16:00:04-GMT,1729;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21683 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:00:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17763 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:36:41 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17760 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:36:39 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 12f1mP-0002O1-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:36:38 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12f1mP-0007Wm-00; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:36:37 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14579.14452.774415.62497@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:36:36 +0100 (BST) To: pragma@wxs.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: xml and pdf In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000411091534.007fbca0@pop.wxs.nl> References: <3.0.6.32.20000411091534.007fbca0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen writes: > [I used to be shocked about views like this, but the fact that SPQR is > still maintaining this list gives me hope. I think he even likes tex, if > only because it can typeset xml!] just for the record, i use TeX every day. i will not say that I *like* it every day... Sebastian 11-Apr-2000 16:05:40-GMT,1833;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21879 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17609 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:25:28 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17605 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:25:21 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id QAA08641 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:24:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id QAA25928; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:39:44 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:39:44 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200004111439.QAA25928@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Subject: Re: rotate and distiller In-Reply-To: References: <38F1D6EA.351C5B1A@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » example, on a landscape file (dvips -t) a page with only a figure included » is rendered in portrait. because distiller follows the `main orientation of the text', when no text, carzy funny page! the only solution i found was to print `distiller is so stupid' in the background color on any `empty' page... Thierry Bouche 12-Apr-2000 5:26:34-GMT,3639;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12341 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25279 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:06:36 -0400 Received: from mail.rdc1.md.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.md.home.com [24.2.2.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25276 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:06:31 -0400 Received: from cc240476-b.hwrd1.md.home.com ([24.4.128.94]) by mail.rdc1.md.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000412040628.LCCJ26983.mail.rdc1.md.home.com@cc240476-b.hwrd1.md.home.com> for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:06:28 -0700 From: Jeffrey McArthur To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Included PDFs and Font Subsetting Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:07:27 -0400 Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Reply-To: jeffmcarthur@home.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id AAA25277 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am concerned about what happens when I include a PDF. For example if I run the following file through plain PDFTeX: \nopagenumbers \def\Graphic#1{\pdfximage{#1}\pdfrefximage\pdflastximage} \Graphic{Sample.PDF} \bye And the PDF file that I am including uses fonts that are subset, PDFTeX may look for the TFM and PFB for the font. If the font is listed in the .map files, then PDFTeX requires the font or it will generate an error. I can understand the desire to properly merge font subsets, but there is an unintended consequence of this. PDFTeX comes with a file called standard.map which maps the standard Adobe fonts. If your TeX document includes a PDF that uses one of the standard Adobe fonts, your installation of PDFTeX must have the TFM for the font available or PDFTeX will generate an error. We found this out the hard way because we were trying to include a small little PDF file that used Palatino-Roman and Palatino-SC. Both are listed in the standard.map file, but we did not have the TFM's available. I think there needs to be an explanation in the manual about the interaction of the map file and pdf inclusion. Our solution was to edit the map file and remove the lines about Palatino; but this was not an obvious solution. We spent several hours searching through our typesetting specs and such to try and figure out where we were loading the font until we finally figured out that the font was coming from the included PDF. By the way, version 14e acts quite differently than 14d in reguard to including PDF files that use fonts that are listed in the map file. I would also like to be able to turn off the "warning" that is generated when PDFTeX cannot find the font files. I prefer to have my typesetting specs run with no messages except page numbers. That way if I do get a message I know that there is something I should look into. Right now I am planning on including hundreds of PDF files, and each one will generate an include message and a warning message. I just would like the ability to turn off the warning (since for what I am doing, it is meaningless). Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ 12-Apr-2000 18:52:20-GMT,4032;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01586 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:52:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26742 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:44:15 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26739 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:44:13 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15810; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:13:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27251; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:13:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200004120913.LAA27251@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Included PDFs and Font Subsetting In-Reply-To: from Jeffrey McArthur at "Apr 12, 0 00:07:27 am" To: jeffmcarthur@home.com Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:13:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I am concerned about what happens when I include a PDF. For example if I > run the following file through plain PDFTeX: > > \nopagenumbers > \def\Graphic#1{\pdfximage{#1}\pdfrefximage\pdflastximage} > \Graphic{Sample.PDF} > \bye > > And the PDF file that I am including uses fonts that are subset, PDFTeX may > look for the TFM and PFB for the font. If the font is listed in the .map > files, then PDFTeX requires the font or it will generate an error. > > I can understand the desire to properly merge font subsets, but there is an > unintended consequence of this. PDFTeX comes with a file called > standard.map which maps the standard Adobe fonts. If your TeX document > includes a PDF that uses one of the standard Adobe fonts, your installation > of PDFTeX must have the TFM for the font available or PDFTeX will generate > an error. We found this out the hard way because we were trying to include > a small little PDF file that used Palatino-Roman and Palatino-SC. Both are > listed in the standard.map file, but we did not have the TFM's available. > > I think there needs to be an explanation in the manual about the interaction > of the map file and pdf inclusion. Our solution was to edit the map file > and remove the lines about Palatino; but this was not an obvious solution. > We spent several hours searching through our typesetting specs and such to > try and figure out where we were loading the font until we finally figured > out that the font was coming from the included PDF. By the way, version 14e > acts quite differently than 14d in reguard to including PDF files that use > fonts that are listed in the map file. one can say in map file e.g.: Palatino-Roman I would also like to be able to turn off the "warning" that is generated > when PDFTeX cannot find the font files. I prefer to have my typesetting > specs run with no messages except page numbers. That way if I do get a > message I know that there is something I should look into. Right now I am > planning on including hundreds of PDF files, and each one will generate an > include message and a warning message. I just would like the ability to > turn off the warning (since for what I am doing, it is meaningless). If I had such a need, I would run pdftex in batchmode and postprocess the log files by another tool, like sed or awk. Regards, Thanh 12-Apr-2000 18:57:39-GMT,1886;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01737 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:57:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26598 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:31:38 -0400 Received: from asterix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (asterix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.132.84]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26595 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:31:36 -0400 Received: from postman.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de by asterix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with Local SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:20:21 +0200 Received: from hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (wri@artus.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.200.63]) by postman.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14200 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:20:21 +0200 Message-ID: <38F47813.D83D4597@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:20:19 +0200 From: Wolfgang Riedel Organization: TU Chemnitz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.5-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFTeX Subject: font problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've distilled a postscript file, which was created by latex and dvips. Showing it with acroread, I get the error message: Unable to extract the embedded font 'CMSY8' ... (and the same text for other fonts). What's the matter? What can I do? Thany for help! Regards, Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Riedel Technische Universitaet Chemnitz Tel: +49 371 531 1422 Universitaetsrechenzentrum Fax: +49 371 531 1629 D-09107 Chemnitz email: w.riedel@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de 12-Apr-2000 20:33:41-GMT,1903;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04442 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:33:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27783 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:15:29 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27779 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:15:26 -0400 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00594; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:15:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:15:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: Wolfgang Riedel cc: PDFTeX Subject: Re: font problem In-Reply-To: <38F47813.D83D4597@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have seen this problem before, but with earlier versions of pdftex. But you are not using pdftex... I have also seen this problems with PDF files made by Distiller 3.0, but that was due to a problem in one of Type 1 fonts I was using. In fact, the problem font was CMSY7, but it was an outdated version. As soon as I updated the font to version from the AMS collection, the problems went away. Anyway, this question is slightly off topic for this list. Mail me privately and I will see what I can do for you. Regards, Tom On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Wolfgang Riedel wrote: > > I've distilled a postscript file, which was created by latex and dvips. > Showing it with acroread, I get the error message: > Unable to extract the embedded font 'CMSY8' ... > (and the same text for other fonts). > What's the matter? What can I do? > 13-Apr-2000 6:08:29-GMT,2773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18605 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:08:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA30646 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 23:52:17 -0400 Received: from mail.rdc1.md.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.md.home.com [24.2.2.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA30643 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 23:52:13 -0400 Received: from cc240476-b.hwrd1.md.home.com ([24.4.128.94]) by mail.rdc1.md.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000413035211.IPKJ26983.mail.rdc1.md.home.com@cc240476-b.hwrd1.md.home.com>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:52:11 -0700 From: Jeffrey McArthur To: Han The Thanh Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Included PDFs and Font Subsetting Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 23:53:09 -0400 Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Reply-To: jeffmcarthur@home.com Message-ID: <3bgafsc9tk7p69m73v53htm88np97psit4@4ax.com> References: <200004120913.LAA27251@anxur.fi.muni.cz> In-Reply-To: <200004120913.LAA27251@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id XAA30644 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:13:41 +0200 (MET DST), you wrote: >> I would also like to be able to turn off the "warning" that is generated >> when PDFTeX cannot find the font files. I prefer to have my typesetting >> specs run with no messages except page numbers. That way if I do get a >> message I know that there is something I should look into. Right now I am >> planning on including hundreds of PDF files, and each one will generate an >> include message and a warning message. I just would like the ability to >> turn off the warning (since for what I am doing, it is meaningless). > >If I had such a need, I would run pdftex in batchmode and postprocess the log >files by another tool, like sed or awk. I would like to change the warning so that it is handled like Missing characters in a font. TeX generates a line at the end of the run saying: (see the transcript file for additional information). That way the warning message shows up in the log file, but does not clutter up the screen display (except for one line saying to see the log file). Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ 14-Apr-2000 10:08:56-GMT,2888;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27084 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:08:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA04128 for pdftex-list; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:24:26 -0400 Received: from frank.Physics.DCU.IE (frank.Physics.DCU.IE [136.206.20.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04125 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:24:15 -0400 Received: from alice.Physics.DCU.IE (alice.Physics.DCU.IE [136.206.20.2]) by frank.Physics.DCU.IE (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18222 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:24:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from physics.dcu.ie (lubos@SarahJaneCullen2.Physics.DCU.IE [136.206.21.58]) by alice.Physics.DCU.IE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16796 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:06:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <38F6C8E1.29B45CED@physics.dcu.ie> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:29:37 +0100 From: Lubos Polerecky X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX Subject: documents about typesetting in Spanish/French Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F86E4CF43A6862AC1316990E" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F86E4CF43A6862AC1316990E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I appologise for submitting this question to this mailing list but I can't find any other way of finding what I want. I need to find some documents in Spanish and French about typesetting. Because TeX is about typesetting, I thought that some of you might give me some useful hints on when I could find such documents (e.g., about TeX) that would be in Sp/Fr. Thank you, Lubos. --------------F86E4CF43A6862AC1316990E Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <38F4605A.821AEB4D@physics.dcu.ie> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:39:06 +0100 From: Lubos Polerecky X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX Subject: documents about typesetting in Spanish/French Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I appologise for submitting this question to this mailing list but I can't find any other way of finding what I want. I need to find some documents in Spanish and French about typesetting. Because TeX is about typesetting, I thought that some of you might give me some useful hints on when I could find such documents (e.g., about TeX) that would be in Sp/Fr. Thank you, Lubos. --------------F86E4CF43A6862AC1316990E-- 14-Apr-2000 17:06:10-GMT,2330;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06944 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:06:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05754 for pdftex-list; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:35:15 -0400 Received: from portal.aerojet.com (portal.aerojet.com [192.149.4.254]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05751 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:35:13 -0400 Received: (from smapu@localhost) by portal.aerojet.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA27971 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1-az.aerojet.com(159.4.1.8) by portal.aerojet.com via smap (V1.3) id sma026239; Fri Apr 14 08:30:22 2000 Received: from azu-mail2.aes.com ([159.4.100.115]) by radon.aes.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAB886 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:28:14 -0700 Received: by azu-mail2.aes.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:04:49 -0700 Message-ID: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C756454405656C@azu-mail01.aes.com> From: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Font inclusion in documentclass Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:04:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am in the process of re-writing a bunch of LaTeX macros into a documentclass. The current iteration of this loads the same base class as the test document, and then loads the remaining macros. PDFTeX's behavior on the two test files is apparently consistent while processing them (i.e. no unexpected warnings or comments about fonts). However, the PDF file resulting from the documentclass version is corrupt in that it does not include all of the fonts referenced. This is on a Window NT platform with a not especially current version of PDFTeX (13c, if I read the report correctly). However, since the odd behavior is introduced by a change in the macros, I am not immediately suspicious of the PDFTeX version. However, I don't really have any bright ideas on where I *should* be looking; suggestions? 14-Apr-2000 23:21:06-GMT,1857;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17979 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:21:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05682 for pdftex-list; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:11:45 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05679 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:11:38 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id RAA05856; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:10:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id RAA17940; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:11:16 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:11:16 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200004141511.RAA17940@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Lubos Polerecky Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: documents about typesetting in Spanish/French In-Reply-To: <38F6C8E1.29B45CED@physics.dcu.ie> References: <38F6C8E1.29B45CED@physics.dcu.ie> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Have a look at http://jeff.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/#Fonts, you'll probably find whatever you're looking for related to typography. As for french, the bibliography of J.-P. Lacroux (to be found on one subpage from the above one) is quite exhaustive... Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 15-Apr-2000 5:29:21-GMT,2949;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25180 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:29:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07982 for pdftex-list; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:15:44 -0400 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (bogo@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07979 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:15:35 -0400 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29235 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:15:29 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA26851 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:15:28 +1000 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200004150415.OAA26851@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: texmf.cnf woes To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:15:28 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone. On a different platform to where I normally work, I've had terrible trouble configuring the latest version of pdfTeX to override an existing older installation. Among the things I had to do were to add lines into texmf.cnf for the newer local installation. The following additions were needed to find the correct .map files, and .enc files (perhaps not necessary any more): % For texfonts.map and included map files used by mktexpk. % See ftp://ftp.tug.org/tex/fontname.tar.gz. TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname # added these 2 lines: TEXFONTMAPS.pdftex = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,fontname}/{config,base,} TEXFONTMAPS.pdflatex = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,fontname}/{config,base,} ... % PostScript headers, prologues (.pro), encodings (.enc) and fonts. TEXPSHEADERS = .;$TEXMF/{dvips,pdftex,tex,fonts/type1}// # added these 2 lines: TEXPSHEADERS.pdftex = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,fonts/type1}// TEXPSHEADERS.pdflatex = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,fonts/type1}// This was needed to find pdftex.cfg in $HOME/texmf/pdftex/config/ before one in $TEXMFMAIN/tex/latex/hyperref/ TEXINPUTS.pdflatex = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,tex}/{,latex,generic,}// ^^ not that the empty entry had to come first, rather than last! In discovering these edits kpsewhich -debug=32 -program=pdflatex .... was a most valuable command, as was pdflatex -kpathsea-debug=32 ...... It was *not* sufficient to have: TEXMF = {$HOME/texmflocal,!!$HOME/texmf,!!$TEXMFMAIN} expecting files to be found in the $HOME trees before the $TEXMFMAIN tree. Is it normal to have to mess with configurations in this way ? If so, then I hope others find these extra lines to be useful. Regards, Ross 18-Apr-2000 2:05:40-GMT,3318;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (bogo@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17376 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23848; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:05:14 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA04932; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:05:12 +1000 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200004180205.MAA04932@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: rotate and distiller In-Reply-To: from "Nelson H. F. Beebe" at "Apr 10, 2000 09:30:01 am" To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:05:12 +1000 (EST) CC: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nelson, > Wolfgang Riedel writes on > Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:28:10 +0200 about observing gratuitous rotation of > text pages with Adobe Distiller 3.0 running on Sun Solaris. > > This is indeed a bug in Acrobat 3.0. > ... > Many months ago, I reported an example to the PDF-L list showing how a > change in just a single comment line could provoke the gratuitous > rotation! > > I never got a reply from anyone at Adobe about it, though some Adobe > developers are frequent respondents on that list. > > For now, I recomment that you switch to ps2pdf, which uses ghostscript > 6.01. It now supports preservation of fonts in Type 1 format. Its However, this solution may not work for 'landscape' pages, produced using: dvips -t landscape .... Is there a magic incantation that causes Ghostscript to rotate *both* the page and its contents for the PDF file ? (Loading landscap.ps as part of the job rotates the contents, but not the page itself.) At this site we encountered these problems of having some gratuitously rotated pages using distill (Acrobat 3.0) on Solaris 2.7. However, the .ps files (from dvips) were using bitmap fonts. When configured for Type 1 fonts only (dvips -Ppdf) the problem went away. This solved 2 problems in one hit -- poor quality fonts and silly rotations. Hope this helps, Ross Moore > only deficiency is the lack of compression in bitmaps from scanned > images, and that will likely be remedied in the near future (I'm a > ghostscript beta tester). You can find it at > > ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs601/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - > - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - > - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - > - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - > - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - > - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Apr-2000 2:57:08-GMT,3653;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18508 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:57:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA13470 for pdftex-list; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:05:25 -0400 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (bogo@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13467 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:05:20 -0400 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23848; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:05:14 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA04932; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:05:12 +1000 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200004180205.MAA04932@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: rotate and distiller In-Reply-To: from "Nelson H. F. Beebe" at "Apr 10, 2000 09:30:01 am" To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:05:12 +1000 (EST) CC: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Nelson, > Wolfgang Riedel writes on > Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:28:10 +0200 about observing gratuitous rotation of > text pages with Adobe Distiller 3.0 running on Sun Solaris. > > This is indeed a bug in Acrobat 3.0. > ... > Many months ago, I reported an example to the PDF-L list showing how a > change in just a single comment line could provoke the gratuitous > rotation! > > I never got a reply from anyone at Adobe about it, though some Adobe > developers are frequent respondents on that list. > > For now, I recomment that you switch to ps2pdf, which uses ghostscript > 6.01. It now supports preservation of fonts in Type 1 format. Its However, this solution may not work for 'landscape' pages, produced using: dvips -t landscape .... Is there a magic incantation that causes Ghostscript to rotate *both* the page and its contents for the PDF file ? (Loading landscap.ps as part of the job rotates the contents, but not the page itself.) At this site we encountered these problems of having some gratuitously rotated pages using distill (Acrobat 3.0) on Solaris 2.7. However, the .ps files (from dvips) were using bitmap fonts. When configured for Type 1 fonts only (dvips -Ppdf) the problem went away. This solved 2 problems in one hit -- poor quality fonts and silly rotations. Hope this helps, Ross Moore > only deficiency is the lack of compression in bitmaps from scanned > images, and that will likely be remedied in the near future (I'm a > ghostscript beta tester). You can find it at > > ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs601/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - > - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - > - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - > - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - > - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - > - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Apr-2000 10:53:43-GMT,2615;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28347 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 04:53:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14824 for pdftex-list; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 05:27:27 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14821 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 05:27:25 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18703 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:27:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA02457 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:27:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200004180927.LAA02457@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: pdftex-0.14f-pretest To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:27:16 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I uploaded pdftex-0.14f pretest to ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/snapshots A text file of syntax rules of pdftex primitives is available at http://www.fi.muni.cz/~thanh/download/pdftex/syntax.txt Changes in this release: 1) Some bugs in HZ-optimization were fixed. 2) New primitives: \pdfmapfile{foo} - the same as `map foo' in pdftex.cfg. Only takes effect when used before pdftex opens the pdf output file. \pdflastdemerits - returns the total demerits of line breaking of the most recently paragraph. \pdfavoidoverfull - an integer register, when set to a positive value causes that instead of producing an overfull box, pdftex will try to break at the previous legal breakpoint. \pdflastvbreakpenalty - returns the penalty of the most recent vbreak (either vsplit or page breaking) if the chosen breakpoint was at a penalty node. Otherwise returns 0. [some of pdftex primitives have nothing to do with pdf, but do have the prefix `pdf', which is a little bit confused. The main reason to have the prefix `pdf' is to distinguish them from non-pdftex primitives. I would be happy to see them moved to a more appropriate place (i.e. etex) and renamed to be more logical] 3) generating subset tag was changed to be more `unique' (asked by Tom Kacvinsky). Thanh 18-Apr-2000 14:46:02-GMT,1546;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03838 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:45:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15597 for pdftex-list; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:56:48 -0400 Received: from white.dogwood.com (white.dogwood.com [209.24.60.226]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15594 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:56:44 -0400 Received: (from dave@localhost) by white.dogwood.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA34524 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 06:56:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave) From: Dave Cornejo Message-Id: <200004181356.GAA34524@white.dogwood.com> Subject: pdftex mirror available To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 06:56:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have a high bandwidth mirror of Han The Thanh's pdftex directory at ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/tex/pdftex - this site is located in San Francisco, CA USA. Disclaimer: ftp.freesoftware.com is provided by Walnut Creek CDROM who very kindly allow me to maintain the TeX archives there (see http://www.cdrom.com). -- Dave Cornejo - Dogwood Media, Fremont, California General Magician & Registered Be Developer Free voicemail, email by phone & phone calls: 18-Apr-2000 15:54:33-GMT,1786;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05830 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:54:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15879 for pdftex-list; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:22:03 -0400 Received: from admin.di.fc.ul.pt (admin.di.fc.ul.pt [194.117.22.41]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15876 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:21:58 -0400 Received: from di.fc.ul.pt (nneves.di.fc.ul.pt [194.117.22.35]) by admin.di.fc.ul.pt (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA10923 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:21:44 +0100 Message-ID: <38FC7DB3.D489215A@di.fc.ul.pt> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:22:27 +0100 From: Nuno Miguel Neves Organization: Departamento de =?iso-8859-1?Q?Inform=E1tica?= da Fac. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ci=EAncias?= da UL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: pt, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFLaTeX List Subject: PDF Forms Submission Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I have two questions (well, more like a question and a request :-) ): - Can I clear a given field (e.g. a text field or a check box) WITHOUT cleaning the entire Form? - Can anyone give me an example of a script (CGI, Perl, etc.) that accpets the submission of a PDF Form created by LaTeX, and separates the different fields? Thanks in advance. -- nneves@di.fc.ul.pt Dept. Informatica, Fac. Ciencias, |\ | |\ | Tel: +351 21 7500058 Univ. Lisboa, Bloco C5, Campo Grande | \|uno | \|eves Fax: +351 21 7500084 1700 Lisboa, Portugal 18-Apr-2000 16:19:06-GMT,1609;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06564 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:19:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16052 for pdftex-list; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:47:42 -0400 Received: from admin.di.fc.ul.pt (admin.di.fc.ul.pt [194.117.22.41]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16049 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:47:31 -0400 Received: from di.fc.ul.pt (nneves.di.fc.ul.pt [194.117.22.35]) by admin.di.fc.ul.pt (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA11162 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:47:07 +0100 Message-ID: <38FC83A6.C9AA779D@di.fc.ul.pt> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:47:50 +0100 From: Nuno Miguel Neves Organization: Departamento de =?iso-8859-1?Q?Inform=E1tica?= da Fac. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ci=EAncias?= da UL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: pt, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFLaTeX List Subject: Hyperref and Forms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I apologize if this is a stupid question, but what are the different choices for the \begin{Form}[] of hyperref? In particular, how can I specify a URL to send the form to? -- nneves@di.fc.ul.pt Dept. Informatica, Fac. Ciencias, |\ | |\ | Tel: +351 21 7500058 Univ. Lisboa, Bloco C5, Campo Grande | \|uno | \|eves Fax: +351 21 7500084 1700 Lisboa, Portugal 18-Apr-2000 22:09:59-GMT,1872;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16839 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:09:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17619 for pdftex-list; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:30:28 -0400 Received: from mail.sfgate.com (griva.sfgate.com [209.1.77.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17616 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:30:25 -0400 Received: from dagda.sfgate.com ([209.1.99.245]) by mail.sfgate.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12hfZc-0006gg-00; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:30:20 -0700 Received: from [209.1.99.216] (helo=anarchy) by dagda.sfgate.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12hfZc-0007Gy-00; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:30:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:30:20 -0700 (PDT) From: John David Duncan X-Sender: jdd@anarchy To: Han The Thanh cc: pdfTeX Subject: problem building pdftex In-Reply-To: <200004180927.LAA02457@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk When I download tetex-supp.tgz and pdftexsrc-__.tgz, and follow the instructions in the readme file, I get the following error: bash$ ./configure --host=powerpc-apple-rhapsody5.3 --prefix=/Local/Library/teTeX bash$ make pdftex cd texk/web2c; make pdftex rm -f tie.c ln -s ./tiedir/tie.c tie.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I./.. -g -O2 -c tie.c cd ../kpathsea && make CC='cc' CFLAGS='-g -O2 ' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../klibtool.config', needed by `tex-file.lo'. Stop. make[1]: *** [../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la] Error 2 make: *** [pdftex] Error 2 This is on Mac OS X Server. Can anyone help? 19-Apr-2000 14:00:30-GMT,2182;000000000011 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07620 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20085 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:05:27 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20082 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:05:25 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21758 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:05:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18347 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:05:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200004191305.PAA18347@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: printing PS on HP LJ 4050N printer To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:05:22 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I have several huge pdf's created by pdftex, and I want to print them at 1200dpi. Printing these pdf's to PS is ok, the PS's can be viewed with gs and printed on a PS printer which can print at 1200dpi (HP LJ 4050N). Unfortunately there is some problem with the PS intepreter in the printer so sometimes characters on individual lines "jumped up" very slightly. It's hard to describe, but it looks like some characters don't sit on the baseline as they should. When I tried to print these PS's first using gs with ljet5 device, the problem is gone. But the output in lj5 is so huge that this time I have difficulties to send them to the printer. Another problem is I don't know how to force the printer to print at 1200dpi via PCL. Does anyone have any experience with similar issues? Thanh PS: at the meantime I am searching at hp site and news groups for help, but didn't find anything useful yet. 19-Apr-2000 14:29:01-GMT,2146;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08376; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:28:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06148; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:28:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:28:57 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: Han The Thanh Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: printing PS on HP LJ 4050N printer In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:05:22 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Han The Thanh writes on Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:05:22 +0200 (MET DST) about printing on HP LaserJet 4050N printers in PCL: >> I don't know how to force the printer to print at 1200dpi via PCL. My PCL manuals refer to older printer models which didn't go that high in resolution. Nevertheless, I expect that this should work: ESC*t#R Set resolution to # (75, 100, 150, or 300dpi) Thus ESC*1200R (ESC = \033, the ASCII ESCape control character) is what I would try. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Apr-2000 14:35:28-GMT,3027;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08690 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:35:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20272 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:49:52 -0400 Received: from itcnt04.itc.nl (itcnt04.itc.nl [192.87.16.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20269 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:49:50 -0400 Received: by itcnt04.itc.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id <25Y4W4NW>; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:56:07 +0200 Message-ID: From: Rolf de By To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: RFI: Non-pdf special messages Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:56:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, I have stumbled, and In the hope that this is an allowed question for this audience. I would like to understand why I am getting messages of the type: Non-PDF special ignored! I know what they mean, but do not understand where they originate, or (better) how to find out where they do. I believe this may lead me to understand why my text looks like being typeset in black (using Acrobat 4.0) but when printing they turn out to be a dullish brown . . . I run pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (MiKTeX 1.20e (Snapshot build 187)) (preloaded format=latex 2000.4.19) On a book project based on book.cls, but with many (probably too many :\) packages stacked: Package: palatcmsf 2000/03/22 Palatino + SF + CM math fonts Package: gloss 1999/10/10 1.4 Gloss package Package `vmargin', V2.2, <1999/06/01> Package: longtable 1998/05/13 v4.09 Multi-page Table package (DPC) Package: color 1999/02/16 v1.0i Standard LaTeX Color (DPC) Package color Info: Driver file: pdftex.def on input line 125. Package: graphicx 1999/02/16 v1.0f Enhanced LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR) Package: keyval 1999/03/16 v1.13 key=value parser (DPC) Package: graphics 1999/02/16 v1.0l Standard LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR) Package: trig 1999/03/16 v1.09 sin cos tan (DPC) Package graphics Info: Driver file: pdftex.def on input line 80. Package: makeidx 1998/08/17 v1.0k Standard LaTeX package Package: rdbsidecap 2000/03/17 v1.4e RdBSideCap Package (RN/HjG/RdB) Package: ifthen 1999/01/07 v1.1a Standard LaTeX ifthen package (DPC) Package: hyperref 2000/03/07 v6.69e Hypertext links for LaTeX Used options: [pdftex,hyperindex,pagebackref,colorlinks] Package: backref 2000/01/19 v1.19 Bibliographical back referencing Package: url 1999/03/02 ver 1.4 Verb mode for urls, email addresses, and file Package: pifont 1999/03/29 PSNFSS v.7.2 Pi font support : S Rahtz Package: nameref 2000/01/19 v2.17 Cross-referencing by name of section What is the best procedure to entangle this one, anyone, please? Rolf de By ITC Enschede The Netherlands 19-Apr-2000 15:00:06-GMT,2683;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09409 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:00:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20560 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:29:02 -0400 Received: from csc-sun.math.utah.edu (root@csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20556 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:29:01 -0400 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08376; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:28:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06148; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:28:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:28:57 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: Han The Thanh Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: printing PS on HP LJ 4050N printer In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:05:22 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh writes on Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:05:22 +0200 (MET DST) about printing on HP LaserJet 4050N printers in PCL: >> I don't know how to force the printer to print at 1200dpi via PCL. My PCL manuals refer to older printer models which didn't go that high in resolution. Nevertheless, I expect that this should work: ESC*t#R Set resolution to # (75, 100, 150, or 300dpi) Thus ESC*1200R (ESC = \033, the ASCII ESCape control character) is what I would try. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Apr-2000 15:50:26-GMT,1535;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11044 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:50:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20890 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:15:51 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20887 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:15:49 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id QAA23154; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:15:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:15:12 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004191515.QAA23154@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: deby@itc.nl CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: (message from Rolf de By on Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:56:06 +0200) Subject: Re: RFI: Non-pdf special messages References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > cls, but with many (probably too many :\) > packages stacked: > What is the best procedure to entangle this one, anyone, please? Well all of the standard latex packages that use \special (color, graphics, hyperref) appear to have been loaded with pdftex support (so won't use \special here) so it is presumably one of the contrib packages. stick \let\special\ERROR in your preamble, and see where tex falls over, that should narrow it down a bit. David 20-Apr-2000 6:51:57-GMT,3603;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA04386 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:51:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23738 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:23:19 -0400 Received: from mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (root@mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23735 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:23:16 -0400 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14657; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:22:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15212; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:21:55 +0200 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id IAA01684; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:21:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Klaus Guntermann MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14590.41473.904146.511805@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:21:53 +0200 (MET DST) To: Rolf de By Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: RFI: Non-pdf special messages In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Rolf de By writes: > I know what they mean, but do not understand where they originate, or > (better) how to find out where > they do. I believe this may lead me to understand why my text looks like > being typeset in black > (using Acrobat 4.0) but when printing they turn out to be a dullish brown . I don't think this is related. There were similar comments from our students last term. Printing our (partly colored) slides on a color printer (ink) only the black labels in figures really came out black. Black text came out in a dark brown, noticable almost only in direct comparison. I had a look into the pdf generated. In the text portions the black text was described using the (rgb or cmyk, I don't recall) color scheme mixing the colors to yield black. This black "color" specification was not optimized by the printer driver to use the black ink (which was available). But within the (xfig/mpost) figure black was described using the corresponding greyscale value. Apparently this was interpreted by the printer driver to use the black ink. I don't know whether the printer drivers can be configured to use the black ink, even if the specification of "black" is given as a (rgb or cmyk) color value. On the other hand the color specification for black in the default setup may be adjustable to refer to "greyscale" black instead of "colored" black. I have not looked into that. Can an expert comment on this? I would appreciate any suggestions on this to save our students the (usually more expensive) color ink printing mostly black text. Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt 20-Apr-2000 7:08:09-GMT,1733;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04717 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23787 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:46:46 -0400 Received: from id080.wkap.nl (id080.wkap.nl [195.169.64.28]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23782 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:46:43 -0400 Received: from PC709.wkap.nl ([194.171.67.170]) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #45008) with SMTP id <01JOGB9NE0K296YT6W@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:44:46 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:51:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: printing PS on HP LJ 4050N printer In-reply-to: <200004191305.PAA18347@anxur.fi.muni.cz> To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <14591.28090.801357.765998@PC709.wkap.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <200004191305.PAA18347@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Han" == Han The Thanh writes: Han> Unfortunately there is some problem with the PS intepreter in Han> the printer so sometimes characters on individual lines Han> "jumped up" very slightly. It's hard to describe, but it Once upon a time we had a problem like this (not up and down but left and right jumping characters) in on of our QMS printers, and it turned out to be a faulty RAM module in the printer (?!) Greetings, Taco 20-Apr-2000 9:37:56-GMT,2885;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07366 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:37:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA24384 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:53:11 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24381 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:53:08 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24600; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:53:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18856; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:53:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200004200853.KAA18856@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: RFI: Non-pdf special messages In-Reply-To: <14590.41473.904146.511805@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> from Klaus Guntermann at "Apr 20, 0 08:21:53 am" To: guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (Klaus Guntermann) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:53:07 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: deby@itc.nl, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > There were similar comments from our students last term. Printing our > (partly colored) slides on a color printer (ink) only the black labels > in figures really came out black. Black text came out in a dark brown, > noticable almost only in direct comparison. > I had a look into the pdf generated. In the text portions the black > text was described using the (rgb or cmyk, I don't recall) color > scheme mixing the colors to yield black. This black "color" > specification was not optimized by the printer driver to use the black > ink (which was available). But within the (xfig/mpost) figure black > was described using the corresponding greyscale value. Apparently this > was interpreted by the printer driver to use the black ink. > > I don't know whether the printer drivers can be configured to use the > black ink, even if the specification of "black" is given as a (rgb or > cmyk) color value. > On the other hand the color specification for black in the default setup > may be adjustable to refer to "greyscale" black instead of "colored" > black. I have not looked into that. > Can an expert comment on this? > I would appreciate any suggestions on this to save our students the > (usually more expensive) color ink printing mostly black text. I found out that in pdftex.def there is a line saying \def\current@color{1 1 1 1 k 1 1 1 1 K} I guess it should be propably changed to \def\current@color{0 0 0 1 k 0 0 0 1 K} Regards, Thanh 20-Apr-2000 10:40:13-GMT,3132;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA08419 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:40:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA24478 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:46:25 -0400 Received: from mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (root@mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24475 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:46:21 -0400 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17488; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:45:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16654; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:45:07 +0200 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA02199; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:45:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Klaus Guntermann MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14590.53666.419131.618027@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:45:06 +0200 (MET DST) To: Han The Thanh Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: RFI: Non-pdf special messages In-Reply-To: <200004200853.KAA18856@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <14590.41473.904146.511805@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> <200004200853.KAA18856@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh writes: > > On the other hand the color specification for black in the default setup > > may be adjustable to refer to "greyscale" black instead of "colored" > > black. I have not looked into that. > > Can an expert comment on this? [...] > I found out that in pdftex.def there is a line saying > > \def\current@color{1 1 1 1 k 1 1 1 1 K} > > I guess it should be propably changed to > > \def\current@color{0 0 0 1 k 0 0 0 1 K} Thank you! I'll try to find out whether this helps (I don't have access to an ink printer here). But I would prefer something like \def\current@color{0 g 0 G} because that would also reduce the size of the resulting pdf file, as the color setting appears in the pdf file rather often, even if no color changes are requested in the source file. I assume that avoiding redundant color settings is a cumbersome idea. Furthermore I found in pdftex.def now, that the gray color space is mapped to rgb. Does someone know a reason for this? pdftex.def is not generated from some commented dtx file, is it? Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt 20-Apr-2000 11:14:01-GMT,2110;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09017 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:14:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA24639 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 06:31:10 -0400 Received: from itcnt04.itc.nl (itcnt04.itc.nl [192.87.16.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA24636 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 06:31:09 -0400 Received: by itcnt04.itc.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id <25Y4WYHS>; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:37:26 +0200 Message-ID: From: Rolf de By To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: RFI: Non-pdf special messages Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:37:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, This turned out to be a nasty one, but David Carlisle's magic incantation does the trick. He wrote: > Well all of the standard latex packages that use \special (color, > graphics, hyperref) appear to have been loaded with pdftex support (so > won't use \special here) so it is presumably one of the contrib > packages. > > stick > > \let\special\ERROR > > in your preamble, and see where tex falls over, that should narrow it > down a bit. It turns out that the culprit is in the automagical loading of the ltxsrc package by my edit environment WinEdT2K (which I like, BTW). This package allows you to jump back and forth between Yap and the editor, by including src specials. I have not yet understood how such package usage can go unnoticed or how WinEdt forces the thing, but I know this is what happens. Yes, probably the issue of brownish colors for standard black text printing is unrelated to the above, and Klaus Guntermann's message makes a useful suggestion to look into that issue as well. Something to do for Easter, ie. if the weather doesn't cooperate. So far, thanks everyone! Rolf de By The Netherlands 20-Apr-2000 11:31:51-GMT,2197;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09322 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 05:31:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA24905 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:04:56 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24901 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:04:54 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23401; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:04:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00893; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:04:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200004201104.NAA00893@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: RFI: Non-pdf special messages In-Reply-To: <14590.53666.419131.618027@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> from Klaus Guntermann at "Apr 20, 0 11:45:06 am" To: guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (Klaus Guntermann) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:04:51 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I'll try to find out whether this helps (I don't have access to an ink > printer here). > But I would prefer something like > \def\current@color{0 g 0 G} > because that would also reduce the size of the resulting pdf file, as > the color setting appears in the pdf file rather often, even if no > color changes are requested in the source file. I assume that avoiding > redundant color settings is a cumbersome idea. > > Furthermore I found in pdftex.def now, that the gray color space is > mapped to rgb. Does someone know a reason for this? > pdftex.def is not generated from some commented dtx file, is it? well, pdftex.def is not my work, and I don't know much of using colors in PS/PDF. Perhaps Sebastian of David can tell more about that. Thanh 20-Apr-2000 12:22:11-GMT,1548;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA10233 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 06:22:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA25362 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:54:26 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk ([62.232.54.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25359 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:54:25 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id MAA18362; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:53:59 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:53:59 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200004201153.MAA18362@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <200004201104.NAA00893@anxur.fi.muni.cz> (message from Han The Thanh on Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:04:51 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: RFI: Non-pdf special messages References: <200004201104.NAA00893@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > well, pdftex.def is not my work, and I don't know much of using colors in > PS/PDF. Perhaps Sebastian of David can tell more about that. Sebastian is on holiday and David is trying desperately to remember the thought processes behind the file:-) Someone asked why greyscale was mapped to RGB, probably because I didn't notice direct support for grey color model in PDF at the time. I gather from someone's posting that it is there, with g G keys I probably just missed it, or is it a later addition? David 20-Apr-2000 13:26:48-GMT,2019;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11833 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 07:26:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA26003 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:55:18 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26000 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:55:16 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12894; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:55:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10761; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:55:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200004201255.OAA10761@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: printing PS on HP LJ 4050N printer In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.0.20000420081924.01eb2218@pop.tiac.net> from Y&Y Support at "Apr 20, 0 08:22:12 am" To: support@YandY.com (Y&Y Support) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:55:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Without seeing the effect it is hard to know what it is, but one thing that it > could be is poor hinting. That is, assuming that it is always the same > characters that "jump up" off the baseline. Check particularly for > differences between characters that "sit on the baseline" and those > that are curved at the bottom and drop below it (C, G, O, Q, S, U etc.) yes it seems to be that certain characters behave in that way. But I don't think this is the case of hinting, as the file printed ok on another printer (Lexmark). BTW, the used fonts are supposed to be ok (Adobe Minion, URW Palatino and CMR). Regards, Thanh 20-Apr-2000 15:10:11-GMT,4601;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14501 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26662 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:15:19 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA26659 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:15:16 -0400 Received: from remote142-148.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.148] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12iHc9-0007WF-00; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:07:30 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000420160150.09bfe430@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:01:50 +0200 To: Klaus Guntermann , Han The Thanh , David Carlisle , Sebastian Rahtz , Hans Hagen From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: RFI: Non-pdf special messages Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <14590.53666.419131.618027@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmst adt.de> References: <200004200853.KAA18856@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <14590.41473.904146.511805@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> <200004200853.KAA18856@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:45 20.04.2000 +0200, Klaus Guntermann wrote: >Han The Thanh writes: > > I guess it should be propably changed to > > > > \def\current@color{0 0 0 1 k 0 0 0 1 K} > >But I would prefer something like >\def\current@color{0 g 0 G} >because that would also reduce the size of the resulting pdf file, as >the color setting appears in the pdf file rather often, even if no >color changes are requested in the source file. I assume that avoiding >redundant color settings is a cumbersome idea. > >Furthermore I found in pdftex.def now, that the gray color space is >mapped to rgb. Does someone know a reason for this? I have appended a diff to version 0.02r as suggestion with this both fixes. >pdftex.def is not generated from some commented dtx file, is it? No. (Probably because it is "beta"). Regards Heiko (Before "diff -c" I have removed unnecessary spaces at end of lines) *** pdftex.02r Thu Apr 20 15:48:22 2000 --- pdftex.def Thu Apr 20 15:47:40 2000 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! \ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[1999/10/13 v0.02r graphics/color for pdftex] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% %% LaTeX Colour and Graphics support for PDFTeX --- 1,4 ---- ! \ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[2000/04/20 v0.02s graphics/color for pdftex] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% %% LaTeX Colour and Graphics support for PDFTeX *************** *** 42,48 **** % * cmyk supported directly. % * rgb supported directly. % * RGB converted to rgb by this file. ! % * gray converted to rgb by this file. % * named converted to cmyk by this file. % \def\c@lor@arg#1{% --- 42,48 ---- % * cmyk supported directly. % * rgb supported directly. % * RGB converted to rgb by this file. ! % * gray supported directly. % * named converted to cmyk by this file. % \def\c@lor@arg#1{% *************** *** 59,65 **** \c@lor@arg{#3}% \edef#5{#1 #2 #3 #4 k #1 #2 #3 #4 K}% } ! \def\color@gray#1#2{\c@lor@@rgb#2,#2,#2\@@#1} \def\color@rgb#1#2{\c@lor@@rgb#2\@@#1} \def\c@lor@@rgb#1,#2,#3\@@#4{% \c@lor@arg{#1}% --- 59,68 ---- \c@lor@arg{#3}% \edef#5{#1 #2 #3 #4 k #1 #2 #3 #4 K}% } ! \def\color@gray#1#2{% ! \c@lor@arg{#2}% ! \edef#1{#2 g #2 G}% ! } \def\color@rgb#1#2{\c@lor@@rgb#2\@@#1} \def\c@lor@@rgb#1,#2,#3\@@#4{% \c@lor@arg{#1}% *************** *** 90,96 **** \def\reset@color{\pdfliteral{\current@color}} \def\define@color@named#1#2{% \expandafter\edef\csname col@#1\endcsname{#2}} ! \def\current@color{1 1 1 1 k 1 1 1 1 K} % Need the `colorfix' modifications as no internal colour stack --- 93,99 ---- \def\reset@color{\pdfliteral{\current@color}} \def\define@color@named#1#2{% \expandafter\edef\csname col@#1\endcsname{#2}} ! \def\current@color{0 g 0 G} % Need the `colorfix' modifications as no internal colour stack 21-Apr-2000 11:23:39-GMT,2310;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12378 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 05:23:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA28867 for pdftex-list; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 06:53:35 -0400 Received: from elch.de.uu.net (elch.de.uu.net [192.76.144.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28864 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 06:53:33 -0400 Received: from gmx.de (pec-29.au2.b.uunet.de [149.228.254.29]) by elch.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id MAA29734 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:50:14 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39003301.745161CC@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:52:50 +0200 From: Tobias Burnus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [de] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdftex@tug.org" Subject: pdfTeX warning (ext4) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, somehow this message didn't came through (Axel tried two times), so I forward it. Tobias .----- Forwarded message from Axel Thimm ----- Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:41:15 +0200 From: Axel Thimm To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX warning (ext4) Hello, comparing pdfelatex output to elatex output I get the following additional warnings. Is this due to the hyperlinked equations being "split" across pages? Or at least pdftex thinks so, because some equations still remain on the bottom of the first page still giving a warning. +! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{equation.5. +67}) has been already used, duplicate ignored + +\@EveryShipout@Output ...@Org@Shipout \box \@cclv + +l.442 \end{equation} + +! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{equation.5. +68}) has been already used, duplicate ignored + +\@EveryShipout@Output ...@Org@Shipout \box \@cclv + +l.442 \end{equation} -- Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de ----- End forwarded message ----- 21-Apr-2000 13:57:38-GMT,2328;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15351 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA29257 for pdftex-list; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:27:12 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA29254 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:27:10 -0400 Received: from remote142-109.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.109] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12idSc-0007n0-00; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:27:06 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000421152556.0079a390@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:25:56 +0200 To: Tobias Burnus , Axel Thimm From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: pdfTeX warning (ext4) Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <39003301.745161CC@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:52 21.04.00 +0200, Tobias Burnus wrote: >.----- Forwarded message from Axel Thimm > ----- >Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:41:15 +0200 >From: Axel Thimm >comparing pdfelatex output to elatex output I get the following >additional >warnings. Is this due to the hyperlinked equations being "split" across >pages? >Or at least pdftex thinks so, because some equations still remain on the >bottom of the first page still giving a warning. > >+! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier >(name{equation.5. >+67}) has been already used, duplicate ignored >+ >+\@EveryShipout@Output ...@Org@Shipout \box \@cclv I can only see, that you are using packages `hyperref' and `everyshi'. Without a minimal example it is difficult to say, where the problem is: amsmath, unnumbered equations, ...? Which hyperref version, which pdfTeX version, ...? So I can only give the hint to try the `hyperref' option "hypertexnames=false". Yours sincerely Heiko 21-Apr-2000 19:50:09-GMT,2833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25015 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:50:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA30014 for pdftex-list; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:17:15 -0400 Received: from lafontaine.cybercable.fr (lafontaine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.202]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA30011 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:17:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 3342667 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2000 19:17:08 -0000 Received: from r172m82.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO manhattan) ([195.132.172.82]) (envelope-sender ) by lafontaine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Apr 2000 19:17:08 -0000 Message-ID: <008801bfabc6$528deb10$0a00a8c0@manhattan> Reply-To: "fx" From: "fx" To: Subject: the best way to convert book to pdf Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:18:06 +0200 Organization: INERD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi My problem is that I need a way to convert my books (in plain text format) to pdf ... the pdf must contain : header, footer, bookmarks, links (inside and outside the document) (and perhaps watermark and pictures) a perfect example of what I want can be found here : http://fxbois.free.fr/doc/bison.zip (it s the GNU bison doc in PDF) (do you know which solution they chose to convert it ?) I ve been looking to the different way to do it and I don't really find the best solution. At the beginning I wanted to create my own format with ,<chapter>,<part> tags etc ... and write a parser to generate 1 - a Tex file which could be interpreted by pdftex. 2 - a texi file which could be interpreted by texi2pdf. 3 - a text file which could be interpreted by softs like txt2pdf But I found DocBook which seems to be very interesting and which offers all what I need : tags etc ... (and would enable me to convert my files to many other format : RTF etc ..) It seems (I'm not sure) that to convert docbook file to pdf, the file must first be converted to texi or latex (and I suppose that after they use the standards tools). but I wonder - if the generated file will integrate the proper command for links, header etc .... - if the quality of the PDF will be good (font, etc ...) so before beginning something I prefer to ask you some advices ... which solution to choose ? any other solutions ? pros and cons ? thanx fx@inerd.fr 21-Apr-2000 21:57:34-GMT,4995;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28407 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:57:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30768 for pdftex-list; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:32:04 -0400 Received: from portal.aerojet.com (portal.aerojet.com [192.149.4.254]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA30764 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:31:59 -0400 Received: (from smapu@localhost) by portal.aerojet.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA24623 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1-az.aerojet.com(159.4.1.8) by portal.aerojet.com via smap (V1.3) id sma024601; Fri Apr 21 14:30:41 2000 Received: from azu-mail2.aes.com ([159.4.100.115]) by radon.aes.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA183911; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:30:41 -0700 Received: by azu-mail2.aes.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <H7WNAVV4>; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:30:41 -0700 Message-ID: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C7564544056591@azu-mail01.aes.com> From: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) To: "'fx'" <foxwood@free.fr> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: the best way to convert book to pdf Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:30:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk You're stepping into a much bigger question than just PDFTeX (although there are a number of people on the PDFTeX list who can help). The basic "style" of marking up a document with tags like "<title>,<chapter>,<part>" etc is defined by the (ISO standard) SGML or its derivative XML. There are a number of tools that manipulate SGML or XML documents, including preparing them for output. They range from heavy-duty commercial (typically for $$$$) through some reasonably powerful freeware tools. If I were interested in marking a document up for automated translation into several formats, SGML or XML would be a reasonable approach. Whether I would use DocBook would depend on 1) how well DocBook (which was designed principally for software manuals) matched the kind(s) of text I was planning to work on, 2) whether I had a way to get from DocBook to the specific formats I needed (more below), and 3) how often I planned to do this. There are well defined tool sets which would allow a DocBook-marked up document to be output in RTF, a variant of TeX (and hence, via PDFTeX, to PDF), and HTML. Getting to plain text would, AFAIK, require some original work. That could be as simple as running dvi2tty on a TeX output file -- which would probably require some manual editing afterwards -- or as complex as writing a new DSSSL style sheet for DocBook. For more information, you might look at the JADE pages (James Clark, at http://www.jclark.com/jade/, or OpenJade at http://www.netfolder.com/DSSSL/index.html). A search on the web for SGML, XML, and DSSSL resources will land you more pages than you probably want to look at; I'd suggest http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/biblio.html as a top level reference to other sites, and in particular http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/general.html#overview as providing links to good online introductions. Mark -----Original Message----- From: fx [mailto:foxwood@free.fr] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 12:18 PM To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: the best way to convert book to pdf Hi My problem is that I need a way to convert my books (in plain text format) to pdf ... the pdf must contain : header, footer, bookmarks, links (inside and outside the document) (and perhaps watermark and pictures) a perfect example of what I want can be found here : http://fxbois.free.fr/doc/bison.zip (it s the GNU bison doc in PDF) (do you know which solution they chose to convert it ?) I ve been looking to the different way to do it and I don't really find the best solution. At the beginning I wanted to create my own format with <title>,<chapter>,<part> tags etc ... and write a parser to generate 1 - a Tex file which could be interpreted by pdftex. 2 - a texi file which could be interpreted by texi2pdf. 3 - a text file which could be interpreted by softs like txt2pdf But I found DocBook which seems to be very interesting and which offers all what I need : tags etc ... (and would enable me to convert my files to many other format : RTF etc ..) It seems (I'm not sure) that to convert docbook file to pdf, the file must first be converted to texi or latex (and I suppose that after they use the standards tools). but I wonder - if the generated file will integrate the proper command for links, header etc .... - if the quality of the PDF will be good (font, etc ...) so before beginning something I prefer to ask you some advices ... which solution to choose ? any other solutions ? pros and cons ? thanx fx@inerd.fr 22-Apr-2000 1:23:05-GMT,1993;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03155 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:23:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA31258 for pdftex-list; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:44:17 -0400 Received: from kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA31255 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:44:13 -0400 Received: from milliways.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@milliways.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.56]) by kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA01312; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:44:08 +0200 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:44:08 +0200 Message-Id: <200004220044.CAA01312@kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) Cc: "'fx'" <foxwood@free.fr>, pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: the best way to convert book to pdf In-Reply-To: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C7564544056591@azu-mail01.aes.com> References: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C7564544056591@azu-mail01.aes.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Wroth," == Wroth, Mark <MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com> writes: > ... to be output in RTF, a variant of TeX ... Sounds interesting. Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Apr-2000 20:29:50-GMT,2086;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18927 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:29:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03472 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:56:23 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03469 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:56:06 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12jRXy-0007M2-00; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:55:58 +0100 Received: from max10.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.10] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12jRXt-0002Oj-00; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:55:53 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14595.21192.82488.935186@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:45:12 +0100 (BST) To: nneves@di.fc.ul.pt Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Hyperref and Forms In-Reply-To: <38FC83A6.C9AA779D@di.fc.ul.pt> References: <38FC83A6.C9AA779D@di.fc.ul.pt> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Nuno Miguel Neves writes: > > I apologize if this is a stupid question, but what are the different choices > for the > \begin{Form}[] of hyperref? > > In particular, how can I specify a URL to send the form to? \begin{Form}[action=mailto:nneves@di.fc.ul.pt,method=post] thats about it... to answer your other question about parsing the results, sorry, but I do not have an FDF processor to hand. To be honest, the whole form support in hyperref was written during a 2 day conference in San Francisco about the future of HTML in 1998, as a result of a "bet you cant" challenge from T V Raman. I never used it in anger. Sebastian 23-Apr-2000 23:07:36-GMT,2141;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21942 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:07:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03850 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:48:17 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03847 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:48:00 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12jV6e-000079-00; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:44:00 +0100 Received: from max2.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.2] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12jV6d-0004O5-00; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:43:59 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14595.34118.785023.609568@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 00:20:38 +0100 (BST) To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: RFI: Non-pdf special messages In-Reply-To: <200004201104.NAA00893@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <14590.53666.419131.618027@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> <200004201104.NAA00893@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh writes: > > Furthermore I found in pdftex.def now, that the gray color space is > > mapped to rgb. Does someone know a reason for this? laziness a few years ago, probably. or maybe pdftex did not support gray at the time? if you care to submit a patch, I'll gladly update the file. > > pdftex.def is not generated from some commented dtx file, is it? no, it is not properly (yet). it is edited manually be David or I at present I will change to \def\current@color{0 g 0 G} on Tuesday, and add \pagecolor from Thanh. Sebastian 23-Apr-2000 23:41:02-GMT,3099;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22508 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:41:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03939 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:21:55 -0400 Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03936 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:21:40 -0400 Received: from default (pacific85-233.infoserv.uakron.edu [130.101.2.233]) by uakron.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA25797; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200004232321.TAA25797@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" <story@uakron.edu> Organization: The University of Akron To: pdftex@tug.org, nneves@di.fc.ul.pt Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:18:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Hyperref and Forms Reply-to: story@uakron.edu CC: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> In-reply-to: <14595.21192.82488.935186@localhost.localdomain> References: <38FC83A6.C9AA779D@di.fc.ul.pt> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I've written an exerquiz package which tries to exploit hyperref's limited forms capabilities. See the source code of exerquiz.dtx for some insights into how you can create forms with hyperref. As for the \begin{Form}[action=mailto:nneves@di.fc.ul.pt,method=post] just write your own submit button. I have a sample file on my web site that takes a quiz created by exerquiz and submits results to cgi script for processing. See http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/demo/sample.tex I have redefined the \endquiz macro to be a submit button. Hope this helps. Regards, dps On 23 Apr 00, at 20:45, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Nuno Miguel Neves writes: > > > > I apologize if this is a stupid question, but what are the different choices > > for the > > \begin{Form}[] of hyperref? > > > > In particular, how can I specify a URL to send the form to? > > > \begin{Form}[action=mailto:nneves@di.fc.ul.pt,method=post] > > thats about it... > > to answer your other question about parsing the results, > sorry, but I do not have an FDF processor to hand. > > To be honest, the whole form support in hyperref was written during a > 2 day conference in San Francisco about the future of HTML in 1998, as > a result of a "bet you cant" challenge from T V Raman. I never used it > in anger. So that's how it was done. > Sebastian > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. 24-Apr-2000 5:29:53-GMT,1761;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29139 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:29:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA05062 for pdftex-list; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 01:04:30 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA05059 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 01:04:09 -0400 Received: from remote142-79.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.79] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12jauw-0001lP-00; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 06:56:19 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000424062233.0079de30@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 06:22:33 +0200 To: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk>, thanh@informatics.muni.cz From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: RFI: Non-pdf special messages Cc: guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <14595.34118.785023.609568@localhost.localdomain> References: <200004201104.NAA00893@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <14590.53666.419131.618027@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> <200004201104.NAA00893@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 00:20 24.04.00 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: >I will change to > > \def\current@color{0 g 0 G} It is already done (0.02s): http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Regards Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 25-Apr-2000 9:35:34-GMT,2017;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07938 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 03:35:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09726 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:50:15 -0400 Received: from gate2-a.volkswagen.de (gate2-a.volkswagen.de [193.23.96.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09721 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:49:57 -0400 Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by gate2-a.volkswagen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA04552 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:49:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Volkswagen by relay1.volkswagen.de, id smtpdAAAvwtFf_; Tue Apr 25 10:49:47 2000 Received: by devwagwodx0008.wob.vw.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <JHQ9QSCA>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:49:46 +0200 Message-ID: <478C61465902D411A05A0008C791F484EF69B9@devwagwodx0007.wob.vw.de> From: "Bodsch, Norbert" <Norbert.Bodsch@volkswagen.de> To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Incomplete Math Symbols Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:49:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know, what could be the reason for incomplete math symbols (sums, integrals, large parenthesis etc.), when printed out on a Printer? The screen image viewed with Acrobate Reader is ok, but in the printing only about the upper half of the symbols are printed. My pdflatex log contains several warnings: *** This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) *** {pdftex.cfg} *** ... *** (e:\texmf\tex\context\base\supp-mis.tex *** loading : Context Support Macros / Missing *** ) *** loading : Context Support Macros / PDF *** ) *** ... *** [1{pdftex.map *** Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbot8rn': too big value of SlantFont (850) *** ... *** }] *** ... Regards, Norbert 25-Apr-2000 10:55:35-GMT,2139;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09338 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:55:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA09953 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:21:04 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA09950 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:20:47 -0400 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA16607; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:20:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky <tjk@ams.org> To: "Bodsch, Norbert" <Norbert.Bodsch@volkswagen.de> cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Incomplete Math Symbols In-Reply-To: <478C61465902D411A05A0008C791F484EF69B9@devwagwodx0007.wob.vw.de> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10004250619110.16067-100000@sun06.ams.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Are you printing to a PostScript printer or a PCL printer? If the latter, upgrade Reader to version 4.0.5, and your problems should go away. If the former, that is the first time I have heard of it happening... Tom On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Bodsch, Norbert wrote: > Does anyone know, what could be the reason for incomplete math symbols > (sums, integrals, large parenthesis etc.), when printed out on a Printer? > The screen image viewed with Acrobate Reader is ok, but in the printing only > about the upper half of the symbols are printed. > > My pdflatex log contains several warnings: > > *** This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) > *** {pdftex.cfg} > *** ... > *** (e:\texmf\tex\context\base\supp-mis.tex > *** loading : Context Support Macros / Missing > *** ) > *** loading : Context Support Macros / PDF > *** ) > *** ... > *** [1{pdftex.map > *** Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbot8rn': too > big value of SlantFont (850) > *** ... > *** }] > *** ... > > Regards, Norbert > 25-Apr-2000 13:33:50-GMT,1693;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12335 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:33:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10692 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:14:20 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA10689 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:14:03 -0400 Received: from remote142-85.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.85] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12k5A8-0005VK-00; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:14:00 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000425145953.007a49d0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:59:53 +0200 To: "Bodsch, Norbert" <Norbert.Bodsch@volkswagen.de> From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: Incomplete Math Symbols Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <478C61465902D411A05A0008C791F484EF69B9@devwagwodx0007.wob. vw.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:49 25.04.00 +0200, Bodsch, Norbert wrote: >*** [1{pdftex.map >*** Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbot8rn': too >big value of SlantFont (850) This warning has nothing to do with the math symbol problem. But in order to avoid this warning, you can update pdftex.map or replace the values "850" by "0.85" in pdftex.map. Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 25-Apr-2000 13:34:16-GMT,2217;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12353 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:34:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10687 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:13:30 -0400 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (life.ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10684 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:13:13 -0400 Received: from MAURITIUS.tiac.net (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.18) with ESMTP id JAA11526; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20000425080303.01eb1b78@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:13:27 -0400 To: "Bodsch, Norbert" <Norbert.Bodsch@volkswagen.de>, "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> From: Y&Y Support <support@YandY.com> Subject: Re: Incomplete Math Symbols In-Reply-To: <478C61465902D411A05A0008C791F484EF69B9@devwagwodx0007.wob. vw.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a well known bug in Acrobat Reader 4.0 Get the bug fixed Acrobat Reader 4.05 from Adobe. At 10:49 AM 4/25/2000 +0200, Bodsch, Norbert wrote: >Does anyone know, what could be the reason for incomplete math symbols >(sums, integrals, large parenthesis etc.), when printed out on a Printer? >The screen image viewed with Acrobate Reader is ok, but in the printing only >about the upper half of the symbols are printed. > >My pdflatex log contains several warnings: > >*** This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) >*** {pdftex.cfg} >*** ... >*** (e:\texmf\tex\context\base\supp-mis.tex >*** loading : Context Support Macros / Missing >*** ) >*** loading : Context Support Macros / PDF >*** ) >*** ... >*** [1{pdftex.map >*** Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbot8rn': too >big value of SlantFont (850) >*** ... >*** }] >*** ... > >Regards, Norbert -- Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) 25-Apr-2000 19:58:59-GMT,1788;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22644 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:58:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13250 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:28:39 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13247 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:28:21 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10306 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:27:58 -0400 (EDT) To: pdfTeX mailing list <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Metapost: "- 11:00am" goes strange From: Ed L Cashin <ecashin@coe.uga.edu> Date: 25 Apr 2000 15:27:58 -0400 Message-ID: <m3ya62ugjl.fsf@coe.uga.edu> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I am using the "\convertMPtoPDF" macro to put MetaPost figures into PDF documents. I noticed something funny in a document I'm working on, and I whittled it down to this: beginfig(1); label.rt("- 11:00am", (1in,2in)); endfig; end When I include the resulting "*.1" file in my document, it reads, "- :00am '" ... on the resulting PDF. When I use epsfig to generate postscript, the strangeness doesn't occur. I'm using supp-pdf version 2000.02.22 with pdftex 3.14159-13d. Does anyone else see this strangeness on his or her system? -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 25-Apr-2000 20:25:26-GMT,2305;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23447 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:25:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA14385 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:00:52 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14382 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:00:29 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12kBVU-0004Uk-00; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:00:28 +0100 Received: from max39.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.39] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12kBVT-0004LA-00; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:00:27 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14597.63165.81079.119399@localhost.localdomain> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:49:17 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org cc: xpopelk@fi.muni.cz Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [Zuzana Popelkova <xpopelk@fi.muni.cz>] In-Reply-To: <200004251722.NAA11925@tug.org> References: <200004251722.NAA11925@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > From: Zuzana Popelkova <xpopelk@fi.muni.cz> ... > I need to put 2 A5 papers on one A4 in pdflatex. I don't need to resize > it (I already have an a5 document), but I would like to reorder the n > pages like this: 1st & n-th, 2nd & (n-1)th etc. I've also tried > texexec --paper=a5a4 <file>, but it didn't worked. Is there something like > psutils for pdftex? There are commercial PDF tools which do this, but you can play games in TeX to do it; viz, write a wrapper file which includes the pages of the original document one by one, in the desired order, as graphics. Remember that pdftex lets you include individual pages of another PDF file The Context documentation has examples of this, I am sure. Making it work with LaTeX is left as an exercise for the reader. Sebastian 25-Apr-2000 21:55:41-GMT,1893;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26000 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:55:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15054 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:46:26 -0400 Received: from mediator.uni-c.dk (mediator.uni-c.dk [130.228.12.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15051 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:46:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (recdmj@localhost) by mediator.uni-c.dk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3PLjvf29869 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:45:57 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:45:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dan_M=F8nster?= <Dan.Monster@uni-c.dk> cc: pdfTeX mailing list <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Metapost: "- 11:00am" goes strange In-Reply-To: <m3ya62ugjl.fsf@coe.uga.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0004252342170.29739-100000@mediator.uni-c.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 25 Apr 2000, Ed L Cashin wrote: > When I include the resulting "*.1" file in my document, it reads, > > "- :00am '" So "11" disappears! I had a similar problem with a file where the substring "33" disappeared. Hans Hagen sent me a version of supp-pdf.tex which corrected the problem. Perhaps Hans can comment on the status of this..... -Dan __________________________________________________________________ Dan Mønster, PhD E-mail: Dan.Moenster@uni-c.dk UNI·C, Research Phone: (+45) 8937 6621 Olof Palmes Allé 38 Fax: (+45) 8937 6677 DK-8200 Århus N, Denmark WWW: http://www.uni-c.dk __________________________________________________________________ 26-Apr-2000 6:52:20-GMT,1840;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA08935 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:52:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA16833 for pdftex-list; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:22:53 -0400 Received: from AMath8.amt.ac.cn (amath8.amt.ac.cn [159.226.47.19]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16830 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:22:32 -0400 Received: from admin (admin [192.168.0.100]) by AMath8.amt.ac.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA22431; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:19:57 +0800 Message-ID: <001501bfaf47$71629c50$6400a8c0@admin> From: "Wang Lei" <lwang@Amath8.amt.ac.cn> To: "Han The Thanh" <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Cc: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: pdftex and type1 fonts Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:19:54 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by tug.org id CAA16831 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Thanh, I have a problem with the type1 fonts. I use ttf2pfb convert some Chinese ttf fonts to type1 under Windows. generate afm, conver to tfm, all seems OK. But, when I use pdftex to test these fonts, pdftex failed and give the error message like follows: .... Name of the font to test = Now type a test command (\help for help): *[2]<cmtt10.pfb><gbsong01.pfb Error: pdftex (file gbsong01.pfb): invalid marker While I use these font with dvips without any problems! and When I use the same way create the fonts under Linux/Unix, pdftex works as well as dvips. How should I do? Wang 27-Apr-2000 1:27:12-GMT,1826;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09119 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:27:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18811 for pdftex-list; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 21:18:25 -0400 Received: from admin.di.fc.ul.pt (admin.di.fc.ul.pt [194.117.22.41]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18808 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 21:18:02 -0400 Received: from di.fc.ul.pt (nneves.di.fc.ul.pt [194.117.22.35]) by admin.di.fc.ul.pt (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA32324 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:19:27 +0100 Message-ID: <3906D0DF.667489F7@di.fc.ul.pt> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:19:59 +0100 From: Nuno Miguel Neves <nneves@di.fc.ul.pt> Organization: Departamento de =?iso-8859-1?Q?Inform=E1tica?= da Fac. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ci=EAncias?= da UL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: pt, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFLaTeX List <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Forms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'm not sure this is the right list for this question, so excuse me if it's not! :-) Is there anyway that I can fill a form OFFLINE, saving the changes in the way? I mean, is there anyway that I can have a document with forms, fill some fields, close the document SAVING the fields, open again SEEING the changes, edit some more fields, close again, etc. ? Prefereably, some FREE way of doing this. :-) -- nneves@di.fc.ul.pt Dept. Informatica, Fac. Ciencias, |\ | |\ | Tel: +351 21 7500058 Univ. Lisboa, Bloco C5, Campo Grande | \|uno | \|eves Fax: +351 21 7500084 1700 Lisboa, Portugal 27-Apr-2000 1:42:56-GMT,2603;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09480 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:42:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18971 for pdftex-list; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 21:41:13 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18968 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 21:40:56 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA14697; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:05:51 -0400 (EDT) To: pdftex@tug.org, xpopelk@fi.muni.cz Cc: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [Zuzana Popelkova <xpopelk@fi.muni.cz>] References: <200004251722.NAA11925@tug.org> <14597.63165.81079.119399@localhost.localdomain> From: Ed L Cashin <ecashin@coe.uga.edu> Date: 26 Apr 2000 09:05:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Sebastian Rahtz"'s message of "Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:49:17 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: <m3aeihui4x.fsf@coe.uga.edu> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> writes: > > From: Zuzana Popelkova <xpopelk@fi.muni.cz> > ... > > I need to put 2 A5 papers on one A4 in pdflatex. I don't need to resize > > it (I already have an a5 document), but I would like to reorder the n > > pages like this: 1st & n-th, 2nd & (n-1)th etc. I've also tried > > texexec --paper=a5a4 <file>, but it didn't worked. Is there something like > > psutils for pdftex? > > There are commercial PDF tools which do this, but you can play > games in TeX to do it; viz, write a wrapper file which includes the > pages of the original document one by one, in the desired order, as > graphics. Remember that pdftex lets you include individual pages of > another PDF file > > The Context documentation has examples of this, I am sure. Making it > work with LaTeX is left as an exercise for the reader. ConTeXt does a great job of arranging pages. There is a plain tex package called "quire.tex" which can arrange pages, but it conflicts with certain latex features ... maybe the index, I can't remember. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 27-Apr-2000 5:11:04-GMT,2165;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA13907 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:11:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20008 for pdftex-list; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 01:08:23 -0400 Received: from pns.brandenburg.de (pns.brandenburg.de [194.76.232.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20005 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 01:08:06 -0400 Received: from www3.brandenburg.de (www3.brandenburg.de [194.76.232.135]) by pns.brandenburg.de (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA02966; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:08:04 +0200 (METDST) Received: by www3.brandenburg.de; id BAA07487; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 01:08:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hp-www.ldspdm.ldsbb.lvnbb.de(10.128.9.41) by www3.brandenburg.de via smap (4.1) id xma007404; Thu, 27 Apr 00 07:07:17 +0200 Received: from pkvbb5.ldspdm.ldsbb.lvnbb.de (PKVBB5.LDSPDM.LDSBB.LVNBB.de [10.128.9.12]) by hp_www.ldspdm.ldsbb.lvnbb.de (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16541; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:07:16 +0200 (METDST) Received: by PKVBB5.LDSPDM.LDSBB.LVNBB.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <JJP69AFD>; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:07:11 +0100 Message-ID: <0F3313EC125AD311981100105AB3A75D07B5A2@N0795.mdf.fvbb.de> From: "Haseloff, Lutz" <Lutz.Haseloff@mdf.brandenburg.de> To: "'Nuno Miguel Neves'" <nneves@di.fc.ul.pt> Cc: "'pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu'" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: RE: Forms Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 06:06:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id BAA20006 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Nuno, there is NO Way to do this offline, except Acrobat :-( But you can run a small free Webserver on your own system (i use Xitami). Then you can submit FDF-Files to the Webserver and save as much versions of the document you want. It´s not an easy way but the only free one. I can help you to get it working. Greetings Lutz 27-Apr-2000 9:26:15-GMT,2010;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19145 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 03:26:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA20578 for pdftex-list; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 05:11:33 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20575 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 05:11:17 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.201]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA299C; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:10:44 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000427100636.01c1e790@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:06:36 +0200 To: Dan =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F8nster?= <Dan.Monster@uni-c.dk> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: Metapost: "- 11:00am" goes strange Cc: pdfTeX mailing list <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0004252342170.29739-100000@mediator.uni-c.dk > References: <m3ya62ugjl.fsf@coe.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id FAA20576 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:45 PM 4/25/2000 +0200, Dan Mønster wrote: >the problem. Perhaps Hans can comment on the status of this..... Sorry for the delay, I was behind a firewall for a few weeks -) I uploaded the fix a few weeks ago, so it should have migrated to the context mirrors as well as ctan. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Apr-2000 10:41:49-GMT,2159;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20506 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:41:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA20716 for pdftex-list; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 06:29:50 -0400 Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA20713 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 06:29:33 -0400 Received: from default (huron52-52.comp.uakron.edu [130.101.6.52]) by uakron.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA31933; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 06:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200004271028.GAA31933@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" <story@uakron.edu> Organization: The University of Akron To: Nuno Miguel Neves <nneves@di.fc.ul.pt>, PDFLaTeX List <pdftex@tug.org> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 06:25:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Forms Reply-to: story@uakron.edu In-reply-to: <3906D0DF.667489F7@di.fc.ul.pt> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The answer is NO, but you don't have to have the full Acrobat to do it. Adobe offers Acrobat Business Tools http://www.adobe.com/products/acrbustools/main.html The price is reasonable ($79US). dps On 26 Apr 00, at 12:19, Nuno Miguel Neves wrote: > Is there anyway that I can fill a form OFFLINE, saving the changes in the > way? > I mean, is there anyway that I can have a document with forms, fill some > fields, close the document SAVING the fields, open again SEEING the changes, > edit some more fields, close again, etc. ? > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. 27-Apr-2000 11:45:38-GMT,3339;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:lior@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21750 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 05:45:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA21053 for pdftex-list; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:39:39 -0400 Received: from AMath8.amt.ac.cn (amath8.amt.ac.cn [159.226.47.19]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21049 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:39:07 -0400 Received: from AMath13 (AMath13.amt.ac.cn [159.226.47.23]) by AMath8.amt.ac.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02067 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:39:20 +0800 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:38:57 +0800 (CST) From: "Mr. Wang Lei" <lwang@Amath8.amt.ac.cn> X-Sender: lwang@AMath13 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex and type1 fonts In-Reply-To: <200004270819.KAA26466@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0004271935240.26308-100000@AMath13> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Han The Thanh wrote: Hi, everyone, Who know how to let pdftex not embed the subseted ttf fonts? Thanh give me much help, but I know little about ttf fonts. Thanks. > > Sorry to bother you again. I try to add ! before the ttf font > > as the example in pdftex manual(which show a type1 font), pdftex > > seems do not work with ttf fonts. warning is: > > > > Warning: pdftex (file misc.map): invalid entry for `gbsong01': only > > subsetted TrueType font can be reencoded > > > > and report: > > > > Warning: pdftex (file gbsong01): Font gbsong01 at 1200 not found > > > > In the map file I use > > > > gbsong01 <GB-Song01.enc !htsong.ttf > > > > Any problem with this format? > > pdftex is telling you what you are doing wrong: only subsetted TrueType font can > be reencoded. TrueType fonts that are not embedded cannot be reencoded. Another > thing is you must give the basename in the map line. But it's not all, because > htsong.ttf has different encoding than gbsong01. > > It's not trivial to get it work. You must understand the mechanism how Acrobat > Reader displays a font first. If you have ATM, propably the easiest way is to > install the pfb fonts created by ttf2pfb and use the above mechanism: > > gbsong01 <GB-Song01.enc !GB-Song01.pfb > > This way the font won't be embedded, but Acrobat Reader will use the font > installed on the system do render. If you don't have ATM, it's still possible to > split the ttf fonts into smaller subfonts and install them in the similar way. I > could get it work, but at the moment I am very busy and don't have time at all. > Please post this issue to pdftex mailing list, maybe someone will be willing to > help. I can come back into this problem in a month, when I have more time. > > Regards, > Thanh > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mr. Wang Lei Phone: 86-10-62616670 Email: lwang@amath8.amt.ac.cn Institute of Applied Mathematics leiwang@btamail.net.cn Chinese Academy of Science Address: P.O.Box 2734, Beijing, 100080 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2-May-2000 12:11:13-GMT,1715;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17201 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:11:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA11708 for pdftex-list; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:37:36 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA11705 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:37:27 -0400 Received: from remote142-178.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.178] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12mb1p-0005qR-00; Tue, 2 May 2000 13:39:49 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000502133655.08cf7e6a@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 13:36:55 +0200 To: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de>, thanh@informatics.muni.cz, cvr@river-valley.com, davidc@nag.co.uk, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: pdftex.def v0.02t Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200005021105.NAA06248@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have updated pdftex.def 2000/05/02 v0.02t: http://www.applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Changes v0.02t: * Support for \pagecolor added. (It works via overloading of \shipout). Changes v0.02s: * The gray color model is now supported directly. (The pdf code is more compact.) Best regards Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 2-May-2000 14:47:32-GMT,1664;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20269 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:47:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13122 for pdftex-list; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:24:21 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.74]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13119 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:24:15 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA20184; Tue, 2 May 2000 19:56:24 +0530 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 19:50:54 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> cc: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de>, thanh@informatics.muni.cz, davidc@nag.co.uk, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex.def v0.02t In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000502133655.08cf7e6a@localhost> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005021949570.10569-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 May 2000, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: HO> Hello, HO> HO> I have updated pdftex.def 2000/05/02 v0.02t: HO> http://www.applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Is it not http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 2-May-2000 18:00:20-GMT,1840;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25375 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 2 May 2000 12:00:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13853 for pdftex-list; Tue, 2 May 2000 12:34:43 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA13849 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 2 May 2000 12:34:40 -0400 Received: from remote142-132.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.132] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12mgbW-0005CV-00; Tue, 2 May 2000 19:37:02 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000502193524.3ca7d5f2@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:35:24 +0200 To: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: pdftex.def v0.02t Cc: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de>, thanh@informatics.muni.cz, davidc@nag.co.uk, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005021949570.10569-100000@narmada.river-va lley.com> References: <3.0.1.16.20000502133655.08cf7e6a@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 19:50 02.05.2000 +0530, Radhakrishnan C V wrote: >On Tue, 2 May 2000, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >HO> Hello, >HO> >HO> I have updated pdftex.def 2000/05/02 v0.02t: >HO> http://www.applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Sorry, this is to short. >Is it not > > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Thanks, this is correct. Best regards Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 3-May-2000 3:40:36-GMT,3235;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10281 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 2 May 2000 21:40:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15012 for pdftex-list; Tue, 2 May 2000 22:21:52 -0400 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (bogo@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15009 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 2 May 2000 22:21:48 -0400 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24946; Wed, 3 May 2000 13:24:23 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA26595; Wed, 3 May 2000 13:24:20 +1000 (EST) From: Ross Moore <ross@ics.mq.edu.au> Message-Id: <200005030324.NAA26595@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: pdftex.def v0.02t In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000502193524.3ca7d5f2@localhost> from Heiko Oberdiek at "May 2, 2000 07:35:24 pm" To: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 13:24:20 +1000 (EST) CC: PPower4 Mailing List <ppower4@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > At 19:50 02.05.2000 +0530, Radhakrishnan C V wrote: > >On Tue, 2 May 2000, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > > > >HO> Hello, > >HO> > >HO> I have updated pdftex.def 2000/05/02 v0.02t: > > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def > Please be aware that this changed driver causes a fatal error in PPower4 with Java 1.1 : ppower4 talk.pdf 4talk.pdf This is PPower4 version 0.8.2. [1java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: 0 at java.lang.Throwable.<init>(Compiled Code) at java.lang.Exception.<init>(Compiled Code) at java.lang.RuntimeException.<init>(Compiled Code) at java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException.<init>(Compiled Code) at java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException.<init>(Compiled Code) at java.lang.String.charAt(Compiled Code) at de.tu_darmstadt.sp.pp4.PP4Pages.scanPageStream(Compiled Code) at de.tu_darmstadt.sp.pp4.PP4Pages.work(Compiled Code) at de.tu_darmstadt.sp.pp4.PPower4.main(Compiled Code) There is no such error with Radhakrishnan's attempt to implement \set@page@color by setting \@begindvi ... ... however that fix killed page-transition effects in both PPower4 and with TeXPower. By hacking Radhakrishnan's code to include the existing expansion of \@begindvi as follows: \expandafter\gdef\expandafter\@begindvi\expandafter{\@begindvi\begindvi@color}% and again a few lines later: \expandafter\AtBeginDvi\expandafter{\@begindvi\begindvi@color}% then page-transitions and page-colours work again in both PPower4 and with TeXPower. This is what I'll use for the next couple of weeks, until this can be fixed adequately in PPower4. All the best, Ross Moore > Thanks, this is correct. > > Best regards > Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 3-May-2000 7:17:27-GMT,3852;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA14804 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 3 May 2000 01:17:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA15783 for pdftex-list; Wed, 3 May 2000 01:56:51 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA15780 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 3 May 2000 01:56:49 -0400 Received: from remote142-136.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.136] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12mstN-0005NY-00; Wed, 3 May 2000 08:44:18 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000503084127.088f78c6@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 08:41:27 +0200 To: Ross Moore <ross@ics.mq.edu.au> From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: pdftex.def v0.02t Cc: PPower4 Mailing List <ppower4@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200005030324.NAA26595@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> References: <3.0.1.16.20000502193524.3ca7d5f2@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello Ross, At 13:24 03.05.2000 +1000, Ross Moore wrote: >> At 19:50 02.05.2000 +0530, Radhakrishnan C V wrote: >> >On Tue, 2 May 2000, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >> > >> >HO> Hello, >> >HO> >> >HO> I have updated pdftex.def 2000/05/02 v0.02t: >> > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def > >Please be aware that this changed driver causes a fatal error >in PPower4 with Java 1.1 : > >ppower4 talk.pdf 4talk.pdf >This is PPower4 version 0.8.2. >[1java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: 0 > at java.lang.Throwable.<init>(Compiled Code) > at java.lang.Exception.<init>(Compiled Code) > at java.lang.RuntimeException.<init>(Compiled Code) > at java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException.<init>(Compiled Code) > at java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException.<init>(Compiled Code) > at java.lang.String.charAt(Compiled Code) > at de.tu_darmstadt.sp.pp4.PP4Pages.scanPageStream(Compiled Code) > at de.tu_darmstadt.sp.pp4.PP4Pages.work(Compiled Code) > at de.tu_darmstadt.sp.pp4.PPower4.main(Compiled Code) I have only 0.7.1 installed and this produces: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassCastException: java.lang.String at com.etymon.pj.PdfParser.parse(PdfParser.java:410) at com.etymon.pj.PdfParser.getObjects(PdfParser.java:41) at com.etymon.pj.Pdf.readFromFile(Pdf.java:789) at com.etymon.pj.Pdf.<init>(Pdf.java:53) at de.tu_darmstadt.sp.pp4.PP4Pages.work(PP4Pages.java:459) at de.tu_darmstadt.sp.pp4.PPower4.main(PPower4.java:154) >There is no such error with Radhakrishnan's attempt to implement \set@page@color >by setting \@begindvi ... The problems with \@begindvi are: * There are packages that redefines them, eg: hyperref, foiltex, ... It is very difficult to write code that will work with all of them. * No chance for plain formats, because \@begindvi is only implemented in LaTeX. Therefore I have decided to overload \shipout instead. But the PPower4 problem (0.7.1) is not \@begindvi or \shipout. My code uses "\pdfliteral direct{...}" and pdfTeX (0.14f-pretest-20000418) inserts a newline before the contents in the argument of \pdfliteral. So the page stream starts with: stream q ... If I replace the newline with a space: stream q ... then PPower4 works. Therefore I think the exception is caused by a error in parsing the page stream, if there are empty lines, and it looks, that this can easily be fixed in PPower4. Best regards Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 3-May-2000 7:57:58-GMT,3017;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA15598 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 3 May 2000 01:57:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA15894 for pdftex-list; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:35:53 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15891 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:35:51 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id JAA03396; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:38:31 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200005030738.JAA08403@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id JAA08403; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:38:30 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:38:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Subject: Re: pdftex.def v0.02t To: ppower4@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: eL1Ao5TvkcMFgEFQ7dMZQw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ross Moore wrote on Wed, 3 May 2000 13:24:20 +1000 (EST): > > At 19:50 02.05.2000 +0530, Radhakrishnan C V wrote: > > >On Tue, 2 May 2000, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > > > > > >HO> Hello, > > >HO> > > >HO> I have updated pdftex.def 2000/05/02 v0.02t: > > > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def > > > > Please be aware that this changed driver causes a fatal error > in PPower4 with Java 1.1 : > [snip] > > There is no such error with Radhakrishnan's attempt to implement \set@page@color > by setting \@begindvi ... > > ... however that fix killed page-transition effects in both PPower4 and with TeXPower. This is due to the fact that hyperref's own redefinition of \@begindvi is overwritten. The current version of TeXPower implements Radhakrishnan's \@begindvi version, but saving the original meaning of \@begindvi like in your suggestion (all this only if \set@page@color is undefined, so it will be overruled by the definition in pdftex.def). But I suspect the manner in which the \pdfliteral is placed on the page is less important than the contents of the \pdfliteral. Heiko made a couple of changes in Radhakrishnan's suggestion for creating the coloured rectangle; maybe one of them is responsible for the crash of PPower4. Then again this could be a bug in PPower4 which could be fixed. TeXPower runs well with its own version and also with Heiko's version of \set@page@color. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 3-May-2000 8:31:52-GMT,3383;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16196 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:31:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA15992 for pdftex-list; Wed, 3 May 2000 03:10:38 -0400 Received: from mailserver1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (root@mailserver1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.126.41]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA15989 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 3 May 2000 03:10:36 -0400 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02157; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:12:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15666; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:07:12 +0200 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA12453; Wed, 3 May 2000 10:07:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14607.56878.722455.810265@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:07:10 +0200 (MET DST) To: ppower4@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de Cc: Ross Moore <ross@ics.mq.edu.au>, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex.def v0.02t In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000503084127.088f78c6@localhost> References: <3.0.1.16.20000502193524.3ca7d5f2@localhost> <3.0.1.16.20000503084127.088f78c6@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek writes: > But the PPower4 problem (0.7.1) is not \@begindvi or > \shipout. My code uses "\pdfliteral direct{...}" and > pdfTeX (0.14f-pretest-20000418) inserts a newline > before the contents in the argument of \pdfliteral. > So the page stream starts with: > stream > > q ... > > If I replace the newline with a space: > > stream > q ... > > then PPower4 works. Therefore I think the exception > is caused by a error in parsing the page stream, if > there are empty lines, and it looks, that this can > easily be fixed in PPower4. Thanks for pointing out this problem with ppower4. Heiko is right, that the empty line is the culprit. And the processing in ppower4 itself can be fixed easily indeed. I have done that. But it seems to remain a problem with the processing of this empty line in the pj-library (which is used in the java 1.1.x and kaffe versions). I have not yet beed digging deep enough into that library to find out, what causes the particular problem already observable also in ppower4 0.7.x (it comes up also, when I do apply my fix in 0.8.2 for Java 1.1.x). But I'll try to find a cure. For the time being I can offer a fixed PPower4 0.8.3 only for Java 1.2.x (based on our own library). It is on the web and should find its way to the mirrors shortly. Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt 3-May-2000 12:25:28-GMT,2674;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA20055 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 3 May 2000 06:25:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA17100 for pdftex-list; Wed, 3 May 2000 06:58:40 -0400 Received: from mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (root@mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17097 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 3 May 2000 06:58:37 -0400 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28704 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 3 May 2000 13:55:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14806 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 3 May 2000 13:54:49 +0200 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA13414; Wed, 3 May 2000 13:54:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14608.5000.306861.392802@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 13:54:48 +0200 (MET DST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex-0.14f-pretest problem including scaled png X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have a problem with pdftex-0.14f-pretest which Han The Thanh and I cannot explain. We both run 14f-pretest-20000427, compiled for Linux, but I get an arithmetic problem including a png figure, which he cannot reproduce. I have put the relevant files (which require an installed foiltex) on http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/~gunterma/pdftexpretest.zip I would be very grateful if people with an installed 14f-pretest[-20000427?] could give it a try to find out, whether this is a problem in 14f-pretest[-20000427] or in the rest of my installation. I already tried to upgrade to the latest supp-pdf.tex and pdftex.def. [If someone can direct me to aSolaris binary for this pretest version, I would like to try this, too.] Thank you in advance for your help, Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt 4-May-2000 15:07:19-GMT,2522;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27207 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20470 for pdftex-list; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:35:23 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20467 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:35:17 -0400 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05371; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:33:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky <tjk@ams.org> To: Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14f-pretest problem including scaled png In-Reply-To: <14608.5000.306861.392802@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10005041027530.3861-100000@sun06.ams.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This arithmetic error happens regardless of whether the graphic is scaled or not. I tried it on a Sparc Solaris 2.7 box. I just used the article class (and not foiltex). I thought it might be an issue with the graphic, but its not. I tried saving the graphic out (in PNG format) with two other graphics programs and with a different color space (RGB instead of indexed), and I got the same error. However, upon saving the graphic as a JPEG image, I got the inclusion to work. Must be a problem with the PNG reading code. :( Tom On Wed, 3 May 2000, Klaus Guntermann wrote: > I have a problem with pdftex-0.14f-pretest which Han The Thanh and I > cannot explain. > We both run 14f-pretest-20000427, compiled for Linux, but I get an > arithmetic problem including a png figure, which he cannot reproduce. > I have put the relevant files (which require an installed foiltex) on > http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/~gunterma/pdftexpretest.zip > I would be very grateful if people with an installed > 14f-pretest[-20000427?] could give it a try to find out, whether this is > a problem in 14f-pretest[-20000427] or in the rest of my installation. > I already tried to upgrade to the latest supp-pdf.tex and pdftex.def. > [If someone can direct me to aSolaris binary for this pretest version, > I would like to try this, too.] > > Thank you in advance for your help, > Klaus > 5-May-2000 10:17:51-GMT,2087;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23294 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 5 May 2000 04:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA22962 for pdftex-list; Fri, 5 May 2000 04:56:18 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22959 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 04:56:14 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13621; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:58:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13599; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:58:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Message-Id: <200005050958.LAA13599@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14f-pretest problem including scaled png In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005051444490.1975-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> from Radhakrishnan C V at "May 5, 0 02:47:06 pm" To: cvr@river-valley.com (Radhakrishnan C V) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:58:58 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de, pdftex@tug.org, thanh@informatics.muni.cz X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > KG> > But I could circumvene the problem by adding a line: > KG> > > KG> > \pdfimageresolution=72 > KG> > > KG> > so that the image appeared in the pdf output. > KG> > > KG> Thank you very much for this helpful suggestion. > KG> With this setting it works also for me. > KG> But is this now considered a bug or a feature of 14f-pretest? > > The image resolution is usually read from the image by all the > previous versions. But 14f fails to do that. That's why we have > to supply the resolution manually. So I consider this as a bug. yes indeed it was a bug. I uploaded the fix. Thanh 5-May-2000 14:36:26-GMT,1955;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27805 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 5 May 2000 08:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24588 for pdftex-list; Fri, 5 May 2000 09:18:28 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24585 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 09:18:26 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25334; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:21:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05677; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:21:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Message-Id: <200005051421.QAA05677@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Moot point [was: pdftex-0.14f problem...] In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10005050702120.20166-100000@sun06.ams.org> from Tom Kacvinsky at "May 5, 0 07:05:15 am" To: tjk@ams.org (Tom Kacvinsky) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 16:21:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, cvr@river-valley.com, guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Its a moot point since Thanh fixed the code, but I whought > I would ask anyway: > > I though it was the case that a default resolution was used in case > a graphic didn't have a resolution in it (as sometimes happens) ? > > Hmmm... for non-bitmapped images (pdf), resolution is not taken into account. If a bitmapped image contains info about resolution, it will take priority to the default resolution (given be \pdfimageresolution or image_resolution in pdftex.cfg). Thanh 5-May-2000 8:08:16-GMT,2263;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21201 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:08:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22536 for pdftex-list; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:49:04 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.121]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22533 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:48:58 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA10471; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:15:44 +0530 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:10:20 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: Tom Kacvinsky <tjk@ams.org> cc: Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14f-pretest problem including scaled png In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10005041027530.3861-100000@sun06.ams.org> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005051304080.1782-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 May 2000, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: TK> I tried it on a Sparc Solaris 2.7 box. I just used the article class TK> (and not foiltex). TK> I had the same problem in my Linux box with version 14f of pdfTeX. [...] TK> TK> However, upon saving the graphic as a JPEG image, I got the inclusion TK> to work. Must be a problem with the PNG reading code. :( Even with jpg image, I had the same problem in Linux. TK> On Wed, 3 May 2000, Klaus Guntermann wrote: TK> TK> > I have a problem with pdftex-0.14f-pretest which Han The Thanh and I TK> > cannot explain. But I could circumvene the problem by adding a line: \pdfimageresolution=72 so that the image appeared in the pdf output. When I got the 14f, I experienced similar problems with images, I first thought that it was an image issue and I manually supplied the imageresolution in the document so that the output became perfect. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 5-May-2000 8:20:14-GMT,1617;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21406 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:20:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22543 for pdftex-list; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:50:28 -0400 Received: from turing.une.edu.au (IDENT:root@mcs.une.edu.au [129.180.11.17]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22540 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:50:24 -0400 Received: (from wbennett@localhost) by turing.une.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16381 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:53:07 +1000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:53:07 +1000 From: Bill Bennett <wbennett@turing.une.edu.au> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: A diagnostic command for pdflatex? Message-ID: <20000505175307.A16162@turing.une.edu.au> Reply-To: wbennett@turing.une.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Could anyone tell me, please, if there's a "diagnostic" command to put in pdflatex? This is the first time I've run it, on a file I know to be sound, ie, the procession dvi->ps->Distiller->viewing with Acrobat has given no trouble. However, the .log file is has Non-PDF special ignored! in a many places and I assume that some parameters will have to be set/fiddled. By diagnostic, I mean something that usually slows the programme down to a mooching pace and says the equivalent of "this is what's the matter, nerk." Thanks in advance for any suggestions, William Bennett. 5-May-2000 8:36:52-GMT,2704;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21698 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 5 May 2000 02:36:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA22595 for pdftex-list; Fri, 5 May 2000 03:13:41 -0400 Received: from mailserver1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (root@mailserver1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.126.41]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA22592 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 03:13:35 -0400 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver1.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA29739; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:13:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15188; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:10:42 +0200 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA17385; Fri, 5 May 2000 10:10:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14610.33280.930909.34512@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:10:40 +0200 (MET DST) To: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> Cc: pdftex@tug.org, Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14f-pretest problem including scaled png In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005051304080.1782-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10005041027530.3861-100000@sun06.ams.org> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005051304080.1782-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Radhakrishnan C V writes: > But I could circumvene the problem by adding a line: > > \pdfimageresolution=72 > > so that the image appeared in the pdf output. > > When I got the 14f, I experienced similar problems with images, I > first thought that it was an image issue and I manually supplied > the imageresolution in the document so that the output became > perfect. Thank you very much for this helpful suggestion. With this setting it works also for me. But is this now considered a bug or a feature of 14f-pretest? Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt 5-May-2000 10:06:22-GMT,1983;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23122 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 5 May 2000 04:06:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA22874 for pdftex-list; Fri, 5 May 2000 04:25:07 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.119]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22865 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 04:24:55 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA12682; Fri, 5 May 2000 14:52:30 +0530 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 14:47:06 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> cc: pdftex@tug.org, Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14f-pretest problem including scaled png In-Reply-To: <14610.33280.930909.34512@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005051444490.1975-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 May 2000, Klaus Guntermann wrote: KG> Radhakrishnan C V writes: KG> > But I could circumvene the problem by adding a line: KG> > KG> > \pdfimageresolution=72 KG> > KG> > so that the image appeared in the pdf output. KG> > KG> Thank you very much for this helpful suggestion. KG> With this setting it works also for me. KG> But is this now considered a bug or a feature of 14f-pretest? The image resolution is usually read from the image by all the previous versions. But 14f fails to do that. That's why we have to supply the resolution manually. So I consider this as a bug. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 5-May-2000 11:41:54-GMT,2038;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24581 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 5 May 2000 05:41:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA23512 for pdftex-list; Fri, 5 May 2000 06:06:10 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23509 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 06:06:08 -0400 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21246; Fri, 5 May 2000 07:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 07:05:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky <tjk@ams.org> To: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> cc: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com>, guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Moot point [was: pdftex-0.14f problem...] In-Reply-To: <200005050958.LAA13599@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10005050702120.20166-100000@sun06.ams.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Its a moot point since Thanh fixed the code, but I whought I would ask anyway: I though it was the case that a default resolution was used in case a graphic didn't have a resolution in it (as sometimes happens) ? Hmmm... Tom > > > KG> > But I could circumvene the problem by adding a line: > > KG> > > > KG> > \pdfimageresolution=72 > > KG> > > > KG> > so that the image appeared in the pdf output. > > KG> > > > KG> Thank you very much for this helpful suggestion. > > KG> With this setting it works also for me. > > KG> But is this now considered a bug or a feature of 14f-pretest? > > > > The image resolution is usually read from the image by all the > > previous versions. But 14f fails to do that. That's why we have > > to supply the resolution manually. So I consider this as a bug. > > yes indeed it was a bug. I uploaded the fix. > > Thanh > 5-May-2000 19:01:29-GMT,3217;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04301 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25395 for pdftex-list; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:48:15 -0400 Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25392 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:48:13 -0400 Received: from fghome ([213.46.124.167]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 199f3c0039bf924253955fca0afeedcc) with SMTP id <20000505185054.ZUKA8821.relay02@fghome> for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:50:54 +0200 Message-ID: <001601bfb6c2$f4259e80$a77c2ed5@arnhem.chello.nl> From: "Frans Goddijn" <frans@iaf.nl> To: "pdftex" <pdftex@tug.org> References: <200005051421.QAA05677@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: installation Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 20:49:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, although I am subscribed to this list, most all discussions are way above my level of comprehension but today I have a minor thing to bring up: I downloaded and installed the latest FPTeX which went fine thanks to the suggested command line: wget -t 0 -r -nH --cut-dirs=5 \ ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/systems/win32/fptex/fptex-0.3 and the installation went impressively well, with only this little problem: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (a screen line reporting an error followed by these lines:) component: latex\amslatex\doc file grouop: doc2@@latex@@amslatex file: e:\fptex\texmf\doc\latex\amslatex\subeqn.tex \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ When I looked for the amslatex subdirectory, I found two files with size zero and one file had the name of the directory that was searched. I deleted the files and created subdirectories with the same name, after which the installation went fine. Groet! Frans frans@iaf.nl www.iaf.nl/Users/Meridian Pb 30196 6803 AD Arnhem NL tel/fax 026-3211.759 mobiel 0621-815-881 (BE: tel +32-15-348.909 fax: +32-15-230.687) ----- Original Message ----- From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> To: Tom Kacvinsky <tjk@ams.org> Cc: <thanh@informatics.muni.cz>; <cvr@river-valley.com>; <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>; <pdftex@tug.org> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Moot point [was: pdftex-0.14f problem...] > > Its a moot point since Thanh fixed the code, but I whought > > I would ask anyway: > > > > I though it was the case that a default resolution was used in case > > a graphic didn't have a resolution in it (as sometimes happens) ? > > > > Hmmm... > > for non-bitmapped images (pdf), resolution is not taken into account. > > If a bitmapped image contains info about resolution, it will take priority > to the default resolution (given be \pdfimageresolution or image_resolution > in pdftex.cfg). > > Thanh 5-May-2000 22:24:43-GMT,2402;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08739 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:24:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25821 for pdftex-list; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:13:00 -0400 Received: from bassia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-5.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.159]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25818 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:12:57 -0400 Received: from villosa.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.122) by bassia.wanadoo.fr; 6 May 2000 00:15:46 +0200 Received: from e8a4e9 (193.250.227.118) by villosa.wanadoo.fr; 6 May 2000 00:15:46 +0200 Message-ID: <001701bfb6de$b2edff40$76e3fac1@e8a4e9> From: "jacques.marot" <jacques.marot@wanadoo.fr> To: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: problem with epstopdf (win32) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:09:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk When I use epstopdf with ghostscript 6.01 (win32) : I write this command line C:\Progra~1\Aladdin\gs6.01\lib\epstopdf -d c:\tex\bin\win32\figure.eps And, I obtain the following debug windows, can you explain me , what is bad on my command line. ( I have the same result with backslah or normalslash in the path of the file name) * Input filename: c:\tex\bin\win32\figure.eps * BoundingBox comment: %%BoundingBox: * Output filename: c:\tex\bin\win32\figure.pdf * Ghostscript command: gswin32c * Compression: on * Ghostscript pipe: swin32c -q -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=c:\tex\bin\win32 \figure.pdf - -c quit Commande ou nom de fichier incorrect (= bad command or file name ; in english ) * Scanning header for BoundingBox * Old BoundingBox: 139 230 540 667 * New BoundingBox: 0 0 401 437 * Offset: -139 -230 * Ready. ghostcript is installed in C:\Program Files\Aladdin\gs6.01 §§§§§§§ § ^ ^ § @ @ ( . 0 . ) v ****o00o******o00o************* Hello I'm Jacques MAROT E-Mail : Jacques.marot@wanadoo.fr Lycée Camille Guérin - POITIERS Phone/fax : 00 33 5 49 60 86 23 ********************************* 6-May-2000 0:12:45-GMT,2716;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10841 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:12:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26258 for pdftex-list; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:06:17 -0400 Received: from relay.tp2rc.edu.tw (relay.tp2rc.edu.tw [163.28.32.77]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26255 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 5 May 2000 19:06:13 -0400 Received: from nccu.edu.tw. (nccu.edu.tw [140.119.242.11]) by relay.tp2rc.edu.tw (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03774 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 6 May 2000 08:33:02 +0800 (CST) Received: from nccu.edu.tw ([140.119.81.46]) by nccu.edu.tw. (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA46500 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 6 May 2000 08:00:31 +0800 Message-ID: <3913636B.4A7CD0D@nccu.edu.tw> Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 08:12:27 +0800 From: Yeong-Yuh Chiang <yychiang@nccu.edu.tw> Organization: Dept. of Money and Banking, National Chengchi University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: zh-TW,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: A font problem in Latex Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C6FE6051A8A6F2CFE54C830E" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C6FE6051A8A6F2CFE54C830E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could anyone help me? I use \Re in a Latex file. When I compiled the file, I encontered the following error message File not found in line 0 of module MKTFMTM at address 2FC4:0045 File not found in line 0 of module MKTFMTM at address 2FC4:0045 Hit any key to return to system ! Font OT1/cmss/m/n/12=cmss12 at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. <to be read again> relax l.498 if there is no vector $z \in \Re ^5$ that satisfies the followin... ? P Thanks in advance for any suggestions, -Yeong-Yuh Chiang --------------C6FE6051A8A6F2CFE54C830E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=big5; name="yychiang.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Yeong-Yuh Chiang Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="yychiang.vcf" begin:vcard n:Chiang;Yeong-Yuh tel;fax:886-2-29398004 tel;home:886-2-27824598 tel;work:886-2-2939391 ext. 81014 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:National Chengchi University;Dept. of Money and Banking version:2.1 email;internet:yychiang@nccu.edu.tw title:Associate Professor adr;quoted-printable:;;No. 64,Chih Nan Road, Sec.2=0D=0A;Taipei;;116;Taiwan fn:Yeong-Yuh Chiang end:vcard --------------C6FE6051A8A6F2CFE54C830E-- 6-May-2000 13:12:01-GMT,2129;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22374 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 6 May 2000 07:12:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA27849 for pdftex-list; Sat, 6 May 2000 08:06:08 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27846 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 6 May 2000 08:06:06 -0400 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01210; Sat, 6 May 2000 09:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 09:04:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky <tjk@ams.org> To: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> cc: cvr@river-valley.com, guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: pHYs tag in PNG files [was: pdftex-0.14f problem...] In-Reply-To: <200005051421.QAA05677@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10005060901040.1195-100000@sun06.ams.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Is the resolution information for a PNG held in the pHYs tag? If so, then the PNG file we had problems with the other days does not have a pHYs tag, and so there is no image resolution information in it... I have found a handy little tool (for Windows, still looking for a UNIX/Linux equivalent) that allows one to edit the individual tags in a PNG file. When I get back to work (at home now), I will get you the URL. On Fri, 5 May 2000, Han The Thanh wrote: > > Its a moot point since Thanh fixed the code, but I thought > > I would ask anyway: > > > > I though it was the case that a default resolution was used in case > > a graphic didn't have a resolution in it (as sometimes happens) ? > > > > Hmmm... > > for non-bitmapped images (pdf), resolution is not taken into account. > > If a bitmapped image contains info about resolution, it will take priority > to the default resolution (given be \pdfimageresolution or image_resolution > in pdftex.cfg). > > Thanh > 6-May-2000 15:28:08-GMT,2322;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24268 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 6 May 2000 09:28:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28283 for pdftex-list; Sat, 6 May 2000 10:19:17 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28280 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 6 May 2000 10:19:15 -0400 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02786; Sat, 6 May 2000 11:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 11:13:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky <tjk@ams.org> To: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> cc: cvr@river-valley.com, guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pHYs tag in PNG files [was: pdftex-0.14f problem...] In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10005060901040.1195-100000@sun06.ams.org> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10005061113230.2585-100000@sun06.ams.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Here is the promised URL: http://pobox.com/~jason1/tweakpng/ Tom On Sat, 6 May 2000, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > Is the resolution information for a PNG held in the pHYs tag? If so, > then the PNG file we had problems with the other days does not have a > pHYs tag, and so there is no image resolution information in it... > > I have found a handy little tool (for Windows, still looking for a > UNIX/Linux equivalent) that allows one to edit the individual tags in > a PNG file. When I get back to work (at home now), I will get you the > URL. > > On Fri, 5 May 2000, Han The Thanh wrote: > > > > Its a moot point since Thanh fixed the code, but I thought > > > I would ask anyway: > > > > > > I though it was the case that a default resolution was used in case > > > a graphic didn't have a resolution in it (as sometimes happens) ? > > > > > > Hmmm... > > > > for non-bitmapped images (pdf), resolution is not taken into account. > > > > If a bitmapped image contains info about resolution, it will take priority > > to the default resolution (given be \pdfimageresolution or image_resolution > > in pdftex.cfg). > > > > Thanh > > > > 6-May-2000 16:00:51-GMT,2676;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24735 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 6 May 2000 10:00:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28404 for pdftex-list; Sat, 6 May 2000 10:56:10 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28401 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 6 May 2000 10:56:09 -0400 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03298; Sat, 6 May 2000 11:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 11:55:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky <tjk@ams.org> To: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> cc: cvr@river-valley.com, guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pHYs tag in PNG files [was: pdftex-0.14f problem...] In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10005061113230.2585-100000@sun06.ams.org> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10005061153240.2585-100000@sun06.ams.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I found a UNIX tool for twaeking PNG chunks (not tags, as I had referred to them as): http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/sng/ It needs a little work to compile it with libpng 1.0.6. I have some patches that I will submit to Eric. Tom On Sat, 6 May 2000, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > Here is the promised URL: > > http://pobox.com/~jason1/tweakpng/ > > Tom > > On Sat, 6 May 2000, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > > > Is the resolution information for a PNG held in the pHYs tag? If so, > > then the PNG file we had problems with the other days does not have a > > pHYs tag, and so there is no image resolution information in it... > > > > I have found a handy little tool (for Windows, still looking for a > > UNIX/Linux equivalent) that allows one to edit the individual tags in > > a PNG file. When I get back to work (at home now), I will get you the > > URL. > > > > On Fri, 5 May 2000, Han The Thanh wrote: > > > > > > Its a moot point since Thanh fixed the code, but I thought > > > > I would ask anyway: > > > > > > > > I though it was the case that a default resolution was used in case > > > > a graphic didn't have a resolution in it (as sometimes happens) ? > > > > > > > > Hmmm... > > > > > > for non-bitmapped images (pdf), resolution is not taken into account. > > > > > > If a bitmapped image contains info about resolution, it will take priority > > > to the default resolution (given be \pdfimageresolution or image_resolution > > > in pdftex.cfg). > > > > > > Thanh > > > > > > > > 11-May-2000 8:57:44-GMT,2108;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23109 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 11 May 2000 02:57:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA10935 for pdftex-list; Thu, 11 May 2000 03:35:13 -0400 Received: from mail.piemme.it (IDENT:postfix@[151.4.239.162]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10932 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 11 May 2000 03:35:05 -0400 Received: from piemme.it (ara [150.3.6.212]) by mail.piemme.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FAC4910C for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 11 May 2000 09:38:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <391A71BD.3F5DFC6D@piemme.it> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:39:25 +0200 From: Giuliano Cioffi <g.cioffi@piemme.it> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [it] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: missing characters in graphics inclusions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I looked in the ML's archives but found nothing about the following issue: In a pdf document, generated by pdfLaTeX, I'm trying to include some pdf graphics. When I load the individual graphics in Acrobat Viewer and view/print them, everything it's ok. Once included in the LaTeX document, the graphics actually got included, but some characters in text strings (in the graphic inclusion) are missing! I mean a string like ``print'' shows like ``p i t'', or ``function'' becomes `` cti ''. I use Ghostscript 6.01 so not to have rasterized fonts in the output pdf graphics (converted from eps). Someone suggested me to modify the font mapping file of pdftex (pdftex.map) and tell it to include every font's character instead of just the ones it thinks it needs. In short, I replaced every occurence of ``<fontname.pfb'' with ``<<fontname.pfb''. Sadly, the problem didn't get fixed... Anyone ever experienced such behaviour? Thanks a lot for the help and sorry if I posted a trivial question... -- ciao ciao, Giuliano 11-May-2000 13:19:22-GMT,1756;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26945 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 11 May 2000 07:19:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA11574 for pdftex-list; Thu, 11 May 2000 07:15:11 -0400 Received: from zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE (zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.50.108]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11571 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 11 May 2000 07:15:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (roth@localhost) by zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26884; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:28:07 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:28:07 +0200 (METDST) From: Daniel Roth <roth@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> To: Giuliano Cioffi <g.cioffi@piemme.it> cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: missing characters in graphics inclusions In-Reply-To: <391A71BD.3F5DFC6D@piemme.it> Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.1000511142120.26842A-100000@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ciao Giuliano, > Once included in the LaTeX document, the graphics actually got > included, but some characters in text strings (in the graphic > inclusion) are missing! I mean a string like ``print'' shows like > ``p i t'', or ``function'' becomes `` cti ''. I had the same problem! The simple solution: Just do not use the Microsoft printer driver! It's so buggy as one can expect with Microsoft products ... :-) Go to the Adobe www site and download the Adobe PostScript driver. What else you need is the appropriate PPD file for your specific printer. You should get it at the printer manufacturers site. Regards - - Daniel 12-May-2000 7:14:43-GMT,1826;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA19752 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 12 May 2000 01:14:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14123 for pdftex-list; Fri, 12 May 2000 02:04:41 -0400 Received: from mail.piemme.it (IDENT:postfix@[151.4.239.162]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA14120 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 12 May 2000 02:04:37 -0400 Received: from piemme.it (ara [150.3.6.212]) by mail.piemme.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060EC4910C for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:07:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <391BAE14.81647588@piemme.it> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:09:08 +0200 From: Giuliano Cioffi <g.cioffi@piemme.it> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [it] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: missing characters in graphics inclusions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I had the same problem! The simple solution: Just do not use the Microsoft > printer driver! It's so buggy as one can expect with Microsoft products > ... :-) > Go to the Adobe www site and download the Adobe PostScript driver. What I already got Adobe's PostScript driver, but I can't understand what the driver has to do with pdflatex. Even the screen preview from Acrobat Reader is missing some character... Anyway I'm desperate enough to give it a try. ;) Thanks! -- ciao ciao, Giuliano #!/usr/bin/perl $i=$j=$r=$b=-16.0;while((print"\n"),$b++<15){foreach$a(0..78){print +(split //,' .:-;!/>)|&IH%*#')[$k&15];for($i=$k=$r=0;$j=$r*$r-$i*$i -2+$a/25,$i=2*$r*$i+$b/10,$j*$j+$i*$i<11&&$k++<111;$r=$j){}}} 12-May-2000 12:55:12-GMT,6798;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA24735 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 12 May 2000 06:55:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14780 for pdftex-list; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:12:44 -0400 Received: from mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de (mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.254.102]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14775 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:12:31 -0400 Received: from next.lrz-muenchen.de by mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de; Fri, 12 May 2000 14:15:33 +0200 Received: by next.lrz-muenchen.de (NX5.67e/NX3.0S) id AA00331; Fri, 12 May 00 14:15:33 +0200 Message-Id: <10005121215.AA00331@next.lrz-muenchen.de> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.lrz.de/~heller/hheller.tiff X-Face: #K8+M!=vK|\bQ[&P:z)d$Q:i(@36P1!7if~nI%OB\9I>;p5Vs<_YkU;].K(chZJ,k8X96t ]!d?;H/|Jc:Hr-hhbBow![@FkT0xNOVXK|TO%Jg@Xz<z|uVs,@UjxkuWF"W&fK[SUZI'xL zS+rYcYYg\vFh_r^d!.;O!-cOu0Cd In-Reply-To: <200004180927.LAA02457@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Helmut Heller <Helmut.Heller@lrz-muenchen.de> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:15:32 +0200 To: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14f-pretest Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Reply-To: Helmut.Heller@lrz-muenchen.de References: <200004180927.LAA02457@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Reply-Format: NeXT Mail preferred X-Url: http://www.lrz.de/~heller Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Han, you wrote: > I uploaded pdftex-0.14f pretest to > > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/snapshots I downloaded the seemingly newer version in ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/snapshots/20000510/pdftexsrc-20000510.tgz unpacked it and copied the contents of pdftexdir (I do NOT have tetex) into my .../web2c-7.2/web2c/pdftexdir after erasing everything (from the last installation) in that dir first. Then I tried "make" in .../web2c-7.2. I should mention that I had previously successfully made pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12h (Web2C 7.2) This time make did not succeed: next 134 cpu> make cd ./kpathsea && make CC='cc' CFLAGS='-g -O2 ' prefix=/usr/local exec_prefix=/usr/local bindir=/usr/local/bin scriptdir=/usr/local/bin libdir=/usr/local/lib datadir=/usr/local/lib infodir=/usr/local/info includedir=/usr/local/include manext=1 mandir=/usr/local/man/man1 texmf=/usr/local/lib/texmf web2cdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c vartexfonts=/var/tmp/texfonts texinputdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/tex mfinputdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/metafont mpinputdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/metapost fontdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/fonts fmtdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c basedir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c memdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c texpooldir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c mfpooldir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c mppooldir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c dvips_plain_macrodir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/tex/plain/dvips dvilj_latex2e_macrodir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/tex/latex/dvilj dvipsdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/dvips psheaderdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/dvips default_texsizes='300:600' for d in web2c dtl dvidvi dviljk dvipsk gsftopk lacheck makeindexk musixflx odvipsk oxdvik ps2pkm seetexk tetex tex4htk xdvik; do if test -d $d; then (cd $d && make CC='cc' CFLAGS='-g -O2 ' prefix=/usr/local exec_prefix=/usr/local bindir=/usr/local/bin scriptdir=/usr/local/bin libdir=/usr/local/lib datadir=/usr/local/lib infodir=/usr/local/info includedir=/usr/local/include manext=1 mandir=/usr/local/man/man1 texmf=/usr/local/lib/texmf web2cdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c vartexfonts=/var/tmp/texfonts texinputdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/tex mfinputdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/metafont mpinputdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/metapost fontdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/fonts fmtdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c basedir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c memdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c texpooldir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c mfpooldir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c mppooldir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/web2c dvips_plain_macrodir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/tex/plain/dvips dvilj_latex2e_macrodir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/tex/latex/dvilj dvipsdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/dvips psheaderdir=/usr/local/lib/texmf/dvips default_texsizes='300:600' default) || break; else true; fi; done cd lib && make CC='cc' CFLAGS='-g -O2 ' ./tie -m pdftex.web ./tex.web ./tex.ch ./pdftexdir/pdftex.ch This is TIE, CWEB Version 2.4. Copyright (c) 1989,1992 by THD/ITI. All rights reserved. (./tex.web) (./tex.ch) (./pdftexdir/pdftex.ch) ....500....1000....1500....2000....2500....3000....3500....4000....4500....5000....5500....6000....6500....7000....7500....8000....8500....9000....9500....10000....10500....11000....11500....12000....12500....13000....13500....14000....14500....15000....15500....16000....16500....17000....17500....18000....18500....19000....19500....20000....20500....21000....21500....22000....22500....23000....23500....24000....24500.... (No errors were found.) ./tangle pdftex.web pdftex.ch This is TANGLE, Version 4.4 (Web2C 7.2) *1*17*25*38*54*72*99*110*115*133*162*173*199*203*207*211*220*256*268*289*297*300*321*332*366*402*464*487*511*539*583*592*644*652*662*664*672*696*779*818*837*857*906*951*1000*1029*1038*1057*1080*1105*1119*1168*1194*1275*1347*1438*1469*1477*1479*1585*1590*1592*1602*1603 Writing the output file.....500.....1000.....1500.....2000.....2500.....3000.....3500.....4000.....4500.....5000.....5500.....6000.....6500.....7000.....7500.....8000.....8500.. Done. 1423 strings written to string pool file. (No errors were found.) srcdir=. /bin/sh ./web2c/convert pdftex parse error: Last token = 290 ("), error buffer = `chardone', last id = `chardone' (not in symbol table). ./web2c/convert: conversion of pdftex.p failed, moving dregs: ./web2c/convert: mv pdftex[0-9]*.c pdftexini.c pdftexd.h pdftexcoerce.h /tmp *** Exit 1 Stop. next 135 cpu> Do you have any idea what I might have done wrong here? Thanks! Helmut P.S.: I should add that I changed some of the size variables in texmf.cfg to make a "bigger" TeX, because it had complained about being too small when I used hyperref.sty on my 430 page document (no problems without using hyperref.sty). --- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ________________________________________________ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ) High Performance Computing Group Barer Str. 21, Zi S2515, 80333 Munich, GERMANY 12-May-2000 17:05:45-GMT,1914;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00120 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:05:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15605 for pdftex-list; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:50:49 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA15602 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:50:47 -0400 Received: from remote142-10.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.10] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12qIhN-0006ei-00; Fri, 12 May 2000 18:54:01 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000512184311.50a7317e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 18:43:11 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: pdftex 0.02u: multipage pdf images support Cc: davidc@nag.co.uk, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk, thanh@informatics.muni.cz In-Reply-To: <200005120742.JAA29128@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <3.0.1.16.20000512024043.08cf0f68@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, with pdfTeX pdf files can be included as images. The version 0.14 allows to select a page of a pdf file that contains more than one page. Because this feature was missing in the graphicx package, I have now implemented this in pdftex.def and have updated the version on the tug server: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def (2000/05/12 v0.02u) User interface: The new option `page' specifies the page that should be used as image, eg: \includegraphics[page=2]{PdfWithManyPages.pdf} Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 12-May-2000 22:02:57-GMT,1470;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06741 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:02:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16526 for pdftex-list; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:57:31 -0400 Received: from magnolia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.62]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16523 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:57:25 -0400 Received: from andira.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.152) by magnolia.wanadoo.fr; 13 May 2000 00:00:41 +0200 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (213.56.250.239) by andira.wanadoo.fr; 13 May 2000 00:00:38 +0200 To: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex References: <3.0.6.32.20000512175541.018a3bf0@pop.wxs.nl> From: Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr> In-Reply-To: Hans Hagen's message of "Fri, 12 May 2000 17:55:41 +0200" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) XEmacs/21.2 (Kastor and Polydeukes) Date: 12 May 2000 23:57:45 +0200 Message-ID: <ya5f77om.fsf@supelec.fr> Lines: 11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk * Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes: > Hi, Did you already make a pdftex 14f? It is available from : ftp://ftp.ese-metz.fr/pub/tex/win32-beta/pdftex-0.14f-pretest-20000510-win32.zip Sorry for the long name :-)) Fabrice 14-May-2000 11:29:42-GMT,1975;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10554 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 14 May 2000 05:29:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA19357 for pdftex-list; Sun, 14 May 2000 06:18:34 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA19354 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 14 May 2000 06:18:31 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12qwSx-0001Dt-00; Sun, 14 May 2000 12:21:47 +0100 Received: from max12.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.12] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12qwSw-0006jT-00; Sun, 14 May 2000 12:21:46 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14621.53654.433424.850899@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 23:05:10 +0100 (BST) To: g.cioffi@piemme.it Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: missing characters in graphics inclusions In-Reply-To: <391A71BD.3F5DFC6D@piemme.it> References: <391A71BD.3F5DFC6D@piemme.it> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Giuliano Cioffi writes: > In a pdf document, generated by pdfLaTeX, I'm trying to include > some pdf graphics. When I load the individual graphics in Acrobat > Viewer and view/print them, everything it's ok. > Once included in the LaTeX document, the graphics actually got > included, but some characters in text strings (in the graphic > inclusion) are missing! I mean a string like ``print'' shows like > ``p i t'', or ``function'' becomes `` cti ''. which version of pdftex do you use? sebastian 14-May-2000 12:27:53-GMT,1622;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11299 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 14 May 2000 06:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA19479 for pdftex-list; Sun, 14 May 2000 07:22:31 -0400 Received: from frank.Physics.DCU.IE (frank.Physics.DCU.IE [136.206.20.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19476 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 14 May 2000 07:22:29 -0400 Received: (from lup@localhost) by frank.Physics.DCU.IE (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA02107; Sun, 14 May 2000 13:25:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 13:25:49 +0100 (BST) From: Lubos Polerecky <lup@physics.dcu.ie> To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Password protected pages in PDF document? Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.1000514131622.2079A-100000@frank.Physics.DCU.IE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Is it possible to protect certain pages of a PDF document against viewing/printing by a password? The idea is that I have a document which contains tasks and answers. However, students should be able to read the answer part of the document only when I tell them the password. The reason why I don't put the answers in a separate file is that I would like to have everything in one file and, furthermore, I use references (using \ref{} and the hyperref package) from the tasks to the answers and vice versa. If it is not possible, can anybody give me some hint on how to do it differently? Thank you, Lubos. 15-May-2000 7:34:37-GMT,1661;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28238 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 15 May 2000 01:34:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA21242 for pdftex-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 02:14:39 -0400 Received: from mail.piemme.it (IDENT:postfix@[151.4.239.162]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21239 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 02:14:35 -0400 Received: from piemme.it (ara [150.3.6.212]) by mail.piemme.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA7D4910C for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 08:17:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <391FA4F9.DEE1A5FF@piemme.it> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:19:22 +0200 From: Giuliano Cioffi <g.cioffi@piemme.it> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [it] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: missing characters in graphics inclusions References: <391A71BD.3F5DFC6D@piemme.it> <14621.53654.433424.850899@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > inclusion) are missing! I mean a string like ``print'' shows like > > ``p i t'', or ``function'' becomes `` cti ''. > > which version of pdftex do you use? This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) -- ciao ciao, Giuliano #!/usr/bin/perl $i=$j=$r=$b=-16.0;while((print"\n"),$b++<15){foreach$a(0..78){print +(split //,' .:-;!/>)|&IH%*#')[$k&15];for($i=$k=$r=0;$j=$r*$r-$i*$i -2+$a/25,$i=2*$r*$i+$b/10,$j*$j+$i*$i<11&&$k++<111;$r=$j){}}} 15-May-2000 8:57:26-GMT,3820;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29451 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 15 May 2000 02:57:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA21416 for pdftex-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 03:46:08 -0400 Received: from mailgw.ikp.liu.se (root@mailgw.ikp.liu.se [130.236.32.3]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA21413 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 03:46:06 -0400 Received: from web.de (ikp35-152.ikp.liu.se [130.236.35.152]) by mailgw.ikp.liu.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19293; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:49:30 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <391FBA50.B8B26FD8@web.de> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 10:50:24 +0200 From: Christian Schlauer <Christian.Schlauer@web.de> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: missing characters in graphics inclusions References: <391A71BD.3F5DFC6D@piemme.it> <14621.53654.433424.850899@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > which version of pdftex do you use? Hello Sebastian, hello group! I have the same problem as Giuliano. Here is a small example file: ------------------------------------------------------------ \listfiles \documentclass[a4]{seminar} \usepackage{graphicx} % % seminar.cls \input{seminar.bug} % patch 1 \input{seminar.bg2} % patch 2, load after graphicx.sty % \onlyslides{2} % select some slides \begin{document} % \begin{slide} \centering \includegraphics[scale=0.7]{graph_1} \end{slide} % \begin{slide} \centering \includegraphics[scale=0.7]{graph_2} \end{slide} % \end{document} ------------------------------------------------------------ I think it's not a seminar problem. I have two graphics, and only in the second one letters are missing. If I change the order (graph_2 on the first page), it is graph_1 (now on the 2nd page) were the letters are missing. If I add more graphics, they get damaged as well (my workaround was to print these pages separately with \onlyslides). The graphics are exported from Corel Draw 8 under WinNT as eps and then converted to pdf via epstopdf. Here are some version infos from the logfile: ------------------------------------------------------------ This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (MiKTeX 1.20e (Snapshot build 187)) (preloaded format=latex 2000.4.1) 15 MAY 2000 10:37 *File List* slides-tmp.tex seminar.cls 1997/10/13, 1.4 article.cls 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class size10.clo 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX file (size option) sem-page.sty graphicx.sty 1999/02/16 v1.0f Enhanced LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR) keyval.sty 1999/03/16 v1.13 key=value parser (DPC) graphics.sty 1999/02/16 v1.0l Standard LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR) trig.sty 1999/03/16 v1.09 sin cos tan (DPC) graphics.cfg pdftex.def 2000/05/12 v0.02u graphics/color for pdftex seminar.bug seminar.bg2 supp-pdf.tex graph_1.pdf Graphic file (type pdf) graph_2.pdf Graphic file (type pdf) *********** ------------------------------------------------------------ There are no warnings or errors in the logfile, except: ) <graph_1.pdf 333.24622pt, 233.8746pt, image 1> File: graph_1.pdf Graphic file (type pdf) <use graph_1.pdf> [1 Non-PDF special ignored! {pdftex.map} <graph_1.pdf>] <graph_2.pdf 317.18616pt, 249.93466pt, image 34> File: graph_2.pdf Graphic file (type pdf) <use graph_2.pdf> [2 <graph_2.pdf>] (slides-tmp.aux) Best regards and thanks for any hints, Christian 15-May-2000 11:04:37-GMT,2080;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01211 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 15 May 2000 05:04:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA21865 for pdftex-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 05:51:05 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[203.197.152.32]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21861 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 05:50:58 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA13780; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:26:12 +0530 Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:20:43 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: Ignacio Castillo <icastillo@cimlab.tamu.edu> cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10004080941500.17948-100000@cimlab.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005151607540.3116-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Ignacio Castillo wrote: IC> Dear Tex Users, IC> IC> Is there such a thing like the editor WinEdt (www.winedt.com) for Linux? IC> Please let me know. http://fte.sourceforge.net/ FTE (Folding Text Editor) has many of the facilities available in WinEdt. very sleek, Syntax highlighting, keyboard shortcuts, brace highlighting and matching, automatic indentation, multiple windows, open any number of files, highly configurable, no file size limit, different language modes like, C, C++, java, perl, TeX, SGML, ADA, etc. compilation from within the editor Ctags and so on... Has Windows/OS2 version which has same look and feel as Linux version. I am using FTE for the last five years and was wondering, why people are not using this excellent text editor. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 15-May-2000 12:34:57-GMT,1505;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02502 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 15 May 2000 06:34:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA22142 for pdftex-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 07:19:20 -0400 Received: from zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE (zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.50.108]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22139 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 07:19:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (roth@localhost) by zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15537 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 14:32:58 +0200 (METDST) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:32:58 +0200 (METDST) From: Daniel Roth <roth@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: missing characters in graphics inclusions In-Reply-To: <391FBA50.B8B26FD8@web.de> Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.1000515143021.14592B-100000@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > If I change the order (graph_2 on the first page), it > is graph_1 (now on the 2nd page) were the letters are missing. If I add more > graphics, they get damaged as well (my workaround was to print these pages > separately with \onlyslides). Is the problem only present when you print or already while looking at the screen output? In the former case using the Adobe PostScript-driver should help. - Daniel 15-May-2000 14:25:05-GMT,1218;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04294 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 15 May 2000 08:25:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22564 for pdftex-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 09:10:45 -0400 Received: from pop04.iname.net (pop04.iname.net [165.251.8.69]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22561 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 09:10:42 -0400 Received: from stuepfert ([62.54.194.190]) by pop04.iname.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16080 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 10:14:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas Stuepfert" <stuepfert@writeme.com> To: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: How do i get off this list? Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:13:19 +0200 Message-ID: <NDBBKAPGEMGHEAMBDIDCMEMACAAA.stuepfert@writeme.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk 15-May-2000 21:57:43-GMT,2086;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17636 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24903 for pdftex-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:49:43 -0400 Received: from biology.usu.edu (biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24900 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:49:42 -0400 Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233-1.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.16.3]) by biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id K67HPK19; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:53:03 -0600 Message-ID: <392071F1.C967A87F@biology.usu.edu> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:53:53 -0600 From: "James W. Haefner" <jhaefner@biology.usu.edu> Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: best 1200dpi printers for pdftex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello: I realize this is not strictly a pdftex question, but I would like the opinion of those with experience. I wish to buy a 1200dpi printer that must be compatible with pdflatex, acroread and linux. I have been advised by folks on comp.lang.postscript to buy a real postscript printer and avoid using ghostscript. Will this work for the pdflatex/acroread combination? Will I have access to all of the computer modern fonts at 1200dpi? If any pdftex users have 1200dpi printers, I would very much appreciate learning what your experience with them is, especially in a linux/unix environment. I expect this is a very naive question, but my experience is completely in the 300dpi world. Thanks in advance. Jim Haefner -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 15-May-2000 22:48:49-GMT,2445;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19283 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:48:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25075 for pdftex-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:42:22 -0400 Received: from bkupmail.cv.net (bkupmail.cv.net [167.206.112.44]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25072 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:42:20 -0400 Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by bkupmail.cv.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08681 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hunt108-151.optonline.net (hunt108-151.optonline.net [167.206.108.151]) by s1.optonline.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26944 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ats@localhost) by hunt108-151.optonline.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01438; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:45:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rita.springies.com: ats set sender to ats@acm.org using -f To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: best 1200dpi printers for pdftex References: <392071F1.C967A87F@biology.usu.edu> Mail-Copies-To: nobody From: Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> Date: 15 May 2000 18:44:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: "James W. Haefner"'s message of "Mon, 15 May 2000 15:53:53 -0600" Message-ID: <m31z33ph6a.fsf@acm.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 24 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "James W. Haefner" <jhaefner@biology.usu.edu> writes: > I have been advised by folks on comp.lang.postscript to buy a real > postscript printer and avoid using ghostscript. Will this work for > the pdflatex/acroread combination? Yes. Works great. > Will I have access to all of the > computer modern fonts at 1200dpi? Yes. Personally, I send the Type 1 CM fonts to the printer, instead of creating 1200dpi bitmaps from Metafont, but both work. > If any pdftex users have 1200dpi printers, I would very much > appreciate learning what your experience with them is, especially in > a linux/unix environment. HP2100M: beautiful, wonderful, no problems. -- Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> - In a variety of flavors! 179 days, 16 hours, 52 minutes, 29 seconds till we run away. Whatever you want to do, you have to do something else first. 15-May-2000 23:11:48-GMT,1823;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19830 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:11:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25171 for pdftex-list; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:03:20 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25168 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:03:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e4FN62u04160; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:06:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu: cottrell owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:06:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu> X-Sender: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu To: "James W. Haefner" <jhaefner@biology.usu.edu> cc: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: best 1200dpi printers for pdftex In-Reply-To: <392071F1.C967A87F@biology.usu.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0005151903590.4130-100000@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 May 2000, James W. Haefner wrote: > I realize this is not strictly a pdftex question, but I > would like the opinion of those with experience. I wish to > buy a 1200dpi printer that must be compatible with pdflatex, > acroread and linux. I have been advised by folks on > comp.lang.postscript to buy a real postscript printer and > avoid using ghostscript. Will this work for the > pdflatex/acroread combination? I have had good results from the 1200dpi Lexmark Optra printers. The occasional glitch has been traceable to software rather than the printer. Allin Cottrell. 16-May-2000 5:40:58-GMT,2704;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28557 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 15 May 2000 23:40:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA26495 for pdftex-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 00:29:44 -0400 Received: from see.plasma.uu.se (bt@see.plasma.uu.se [130.238.156.172]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA26492 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 00:29:40 -0400 Received: (from bt@localhost) by see.plasma.uu.se (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.8.6) id HAA27410; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:33:04 +0200 (MEST) From: "Bo Thide'" <bt@plasma.uu.se> Message-Id: <200005160533.HAA27410@see.plasma.uu.se> Subject: Re: best 1200dpi printers for pdftex To: cottrell@wfu.edu (Allin Cottrell) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 07:33:04 +0200 (MEST) Cc: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu (James W. Haefner), pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0005151903590.4130-100000@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu> from "Allin Cottrell" at May 15, 2000 07:06:02 PM Reply-To: bt@lufsen.plasma.uu.se Organization: Space and Plasma Physics, Uppsala University, Sweden System: HP-UX B.11.00 9000/785 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue May 16 01:06:02 2000 you, Allin Cottrell, wrote: > > On Mon, 15 May 2000, James W. Haefner wrote: > > > I realize this is not strictly a pdftex question, but I > > would like the opinion of those with experience. I wish to > > buy a 1200dpi printer that must be compatible with pdflatex, > > acroread and linux. I have been advised by folks on > > comp.lang.postscript to buy a real postscript printer and > > avoid using ghostscript. Will this work for the > > pdflatex/acroread combination? > > I have had good results from the 1200dpi Lexmark Optra > printers. The occasional glitch has been traceable to software > rather than the printer. > > Allin Cottrell. Our HP5000GN with 1200dpi plus resolution enhancement (effectively turning the printer into a 2400dpi equivalent) and double-sided (duplex) printing capability works like a dream and produces stunning output. Books and brochures produced with it look truely professional. Bo ^ Bo Thidé---------------------------http://www.wavegroup.irfu.se/~bt |I| Wave Group, Institute of Space Physics, SE-755 91 Uppsala, Sweden |R| Office: Villavägen 3. Phone: +46 018-4717269. Fax: +46 018-554917 /|F|\ Mobile Phone: 0705-613670 Home Phone: 018-554184 Ham Call: SM5DFW ~~U~~ E-Mail: mailto:bt@plasma.uu.se Mobile mail: mailto:call-bt@irfu.se 16-May-2000 6:50:47-GMT,1449;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00415 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 16 May 2000 00:50:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA26716 for pdftex-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:42:53 -0400 Received: from mailgw.ikp.liu.se (root@mailgw.ikp.liu.se [130.236.32.3]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26713 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:42:51 -0400 Received: from web.de (ikp35-152.ikp.liu.se [130.236.35.152]) by mailgw.ikp.liu.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA05829 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:46:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3920EEF1.DB672806@web.de> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:47:13 +0200 From: Christian Schlauer <Christian.Schlauer@web.de> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: missing characters in graphics inclusions References: <Pine.HPP.3.96.1000515143021.14592B-100000@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Daniel Roth wrote: > Is the problem only present when you print or already while looking at the > screen output? In the former case using the Adobe PostScript-driver should > help. > > - Daniel The problem exists on screen and on paper. Christian 16-May-2000 9:45:39-GMT,2561;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA03707 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:45:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27284 for pdftex-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 04:27:09 -0400 Received: from beta.dynaweb.de (dor@[195.127.242.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27281 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 04:27:07 -0400 Received: from servus (p3E9B8DB8.dip.t-dialin.net [62.155.141.184]) by beta.dynaweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA18433 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:30:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <007001bfbf19$5a8645e0$78e2fea9@servus> From: "Ulrich Dirr" <ud@art-satz.de> To: "pdfTeX" <pdftex@tug.org> References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0005151903590.4130-100000@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu> Subject: Re: best 1200dpi printers for pdftex Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 11:29:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > On Mon, 15 May 2000, James W. Haefner wrote: > > > I realize this is not strictly a pdftex question, but I > > would like the opinion of those with experience. I wish to > > buy a 1200dpi printer that must be compatible with pdflatex, > > acroread and linux. I have been advised by folks on > > comp.lang.postscript to buy a real postscript printer and > > avoid using ghostscript. Will this work for the > > pdflatex/acroread combination? > > I have had good results from the 1200dpi Lexmark Optra > printers. The occasional glitch has been traceable to software > rather than the printer. > > Allin Cottrell. Lexmark don't have original PostScript but a clone interpreter built in. This is as I know the same with HP. Xerox have licensed original Adobe PostScript. But be aware of the fact -- and which never appears in magazine test reports -- that most laser printers have accuracy problems (just print out a ruler in horizontal and vertical direction and measure it...). The only laser I know which has calibrated output is the Xante, but it's very very very expensive in contrast. Sorry for this off-topic excursion. Ulrich -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email mailto:ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) 16-May-2000 11:35:55-GMT,1579;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA05717 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 16 May 2000 05:35:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA27581 for pdftex-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:20:19 -0400 Received: from lantana.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-8.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.51]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27578 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:20:18 -0400 Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by lantana.wanadoo.fr; 16 May 2000 13:23:47 +0200 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (213.56.250.239) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 16 May 2000 13:23:47 +0200 To: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> Cc: Ignacio Castillo <icastillo@cimlab.tamu.edu>, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Question References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005151607540.3116-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> From: Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr> Date: 16 May 2000 13:20:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: Radhakrishnan C V's message of "Mon, 15 May 2000 16:20:43 +0530 (IST)" Message-ID: <zopqagh5.fsf@supelec.fr> Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) XEmacs/21.2 (Melpomene) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk * Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> writes: > I am using FTE for the last five years and was wondering, why people > are not using this excellent text editor. Maybe because they didn't know about it ? ;-) Thanks for this one! Fabrice 16-May-2000 12:49:02-GMT,1655;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07141 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 16 May 2000 06:49:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA27920 for pdftex-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:29:49 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[203.197.152.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27917 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:29:43 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA16616; Tue, 16 May 2000 17:55:35 +0530 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:50:05 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr> cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: <zopqagh5.fsf@supelec.fr> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005161746570.3420-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 16 May 2000, Fabrice Popineau wrote: FP> * Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> writes: FP> FP> > I am using FTE for the last five years and was wondering, why people FP> > are not using this excellent text editor. FP> FP> Maybe because they didn't know about it ? ;-) FP> FP> Thanks for this one! Fabrice, you can include this FTE in fpTeX distribution. In fact, Debian Linux distributes it. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 16-May-2000 13:31:07-GMT,1912;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07996 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 16 May 2000 07:31:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA28386 for pdftex-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:20:55 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[203.197.152.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28381 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:20:47 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA18042; Tue, 16 May 2000 18:56:32 +0530 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:51:02 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: pdftex@tug.org cc: ilug-tvm@egroups.com Subject: pdfscreen Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005161845300.4012-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have uploaded pdfscreen.sty v.1.3 to the CTAN. Changes made: * Complete rewrite of the package. * The side navigation panel can be placed either at left or right at user's choice. * The creation of the navigation panel is entirely left to the imagination of the user. However, a default navigation panel is supplied. * The panel width can be changed. * The panel can have any background graphic with the command \paneloverlay{graphic file name} or a background color of choice. * The background of the document can be either color or a graphic overlay. * The screen size can be changed with the command \screensize{height}{width} even with panel option which was not available in previous verions. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 16-May-2000 18:32:50-GMT,4633;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18097 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 16 May 2000 12:32:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30123 for pdftex-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:04:57 -0400 Received: from beaujolais.ece.msstate.edu (IDENT:root@beaujolais.ece.msstate.edu [130.18.65.77]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30120 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:04:55 -0400 Received: from ece.msstate.edu (IDENT:fowler@beaujolais.ece.msstate.edu [130.18.65.77]) by beaujolais.ece.msstate.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10699 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 13:08:23 -0500 Message-ID: <39218E97.33FCAE04@ece.msstate.edu> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:08:23 -0500 From: "James E. Fowler" <fowler@ece.msstate.edu> Organization: MSU Dept. of Elec. & Computer Eng. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20smp i686) X-Accept-Language: fr,sv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Question on \pdfrefobj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to create a PDF object that places a small note at the bottom of a page of text. I think I need to do the following, or something similar: \immediate \pdfobj stream { q BT /F49 10 Tf 72 36 Td (Text goes here) Tj ET Q } \pdfrefobj\the\pdflastobj But it appears that the \pdfrefobj is giving me an undefined control sequence. Is there something I'm missing? Here's the complete output from pdflatex; code is in foot-citation.sty: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (main.tex[/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel <v3.6x> and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, nohyphenation, loaded. (icippaper.cls Document Class: icippaper 2000/05/15 *** 2000/05/15 Class for ICIP conference papers *** (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/Packages/Misc/figures-epspdf.sty *** Figures EPS/PDF v1.0 <2000/05/15> (jef) *** (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def)))) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsmath.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amstext.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsgen.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsbsy.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsopn.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/calc.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/ifthen.sty)) (/home/fowler/tex/inputs/Packages/infotheory.sty Package: `infotheory' v1.0 <1996/01/22> (jef) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/amssymb.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/amsfonts.sty))) (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/Classes/OSU/seminar/fancybox.sty Style option: `fancybox' v1.0 <93/02/10> (tvz) ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/afterpage.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/subfigure.sty Package: subfigure 1995/03/06 v2.0 ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/citesort.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/dcolumn.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/array.sty)) (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/Packages/Misc/foot-citation.sty *** Foot Citation v1.1 <2000/03/07> (jef) *** ! Undefined control sequence. l.57 \pdfrefobj \the\pdflastobj ? -- ======================================================================= | Dr. James E. Fowler | | Assistant Professor | | Department of Electrical & Computer Engineering | | Mississippi State University | | | | fowler@ece.msstate.edu | | | ---------- Postal Address ---------------------- Contact Info --------- | Box 9571, 216 Simrall | Phone: (662)325-3640 | | Mississippi State, MS 39762 | Fax: (662)325-2298 | | USA | Office: Rm. 406 Simrall | ======================================================================= 16-May-2000 21:23:31-GMT,2686;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24281 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:23:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA30854 for pdftex-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:15:45 -0400 Received: from elch.de.uu.net (elch.de.uu.net [192.76.144.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA30851 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:15:43 -0400 Received: from gmx.de (pec-59.au1.b.uunet.de [149.228.255.59]) by elch.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id XAA29935; Tue, 16 May 2000 23:11:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3921BA41.21111D8@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:14:41 +0200 From: Tobias Burnus <burnus@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [de] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lubos Polerecky <lup@physics.dcu.ie> CC: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Password protected pages in PDF document? References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.1000514131622.2079A-100000@frank.Physics.DCU.IE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Lubos, > Is it possible to protect certain pages of a PDF document against > viewing/printing by a password? I don't think it is possible to protect a subset of pages by a password, you can protect everything and use cross-document links to view the second file, but it is not possible to do so direct. Moreover you need to have adobe acrobat in order to encrypt a file. Ghostscript (6.20 or so) does include a linearized (`optimizer') which post-processes a PDF file, but not encrypts it. (Peter Deutsch is willing to include such a thing, but someone must implement it. Have a look at the Adobe specification and on the pdf-sec.ps file.) > The idea is that I have a document which contains tasks and answers. > However, students should be able to read the answer part of the document > only when I tell them the password. The reason why I don't put the answers > in a separate file is that I would like to have everything in one file As said this will be difficult unless you use old-style encryption (A->B, B->C etc. ;-). > and, furthermore, I use references (using \ref{} and the hyperref > package) from the tasks to the answers and vice versa. I have never used hyperref, but isn't it possible to create cross-linked files? > If it is not possible, can anybody give me some hint on how to do it > differently? Using a Webserver, you could use the auth. mechanism provided by HTTP, but this will require a internet/intranet connection. Tobias, who uses ConTeXt 16-May-2000 21:55:43-GMT,2134;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25117 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 16 May 2000 15:55:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA30956 for pdftex-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:48:53 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA30953 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 16 May 2000 16:48:52 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.148.87]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAG4087; Tue, 16 May 2000 23:53:05 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000516231709.0082cde0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:17:09 +0200 To: "James E. Fowler" <fowler@ece.msstate.edu> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: Question on \pdfrefobj Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <39218E97.33FCAE04@ece.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 01:08 PM 5/16/2000 -0500, James E. Fowler wrote: >\immediate >\pdfobj stream { >q BT /F49 10 Tf 72 36 Td (Text goes here) Tj ET Q >} >\pdfrefobj\the\pdflastobj Hm. Using /F's and so is doomed to fail, since you don't know the number on forehand. Better say: \setbox0=\hbox{Text goes here} \pdfxform0 \edef\TheText{\the\pdflastxform} \pdfrefxform\TheText\relax [still pretty low level and driver dependent] >But it appears that the \pdfrefobj is giving me an undefined control >sequence. Is there something I'm missing? there is no \pdfrefobj. What is it supposed to do? Only the number of such an an object makes sense. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 17-May-2000 7:56:53-GMT,2156;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08475 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 01:56:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA32287 for pdftex-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:44:33 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA32284 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:44:29 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02232; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:48:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21604; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:48:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Message-Id: <200005170748.JAA21604@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Question on \pdfrefobj In-Reply-To: <39218E97.33FCAE04@ece.msstate.edu> from "James E. Fowler" at "May 16, 0 01:08:23 pm" To: fowler@ece.msstate.edu (James E. Fowler) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:48:00 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I am trying to create a PDF object that places a small note at the > bottom of a page of text. I think I need to do the following, or > something similar: > > \immediate > \pdfobj stream { > q BT /F49 10 Tf 72 36 Td (Text goes here) Tj ET Q > } > \pdfrefobj\the\pdflastobj > > > But it appears that the \pdfrefobj is giving me an undefined control > sequence. Is there something I'm missing? > > Here's the complete output from pdflatex; code is in foot-citation.sty: > > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) 1) in case you have \immediate, you don't need \pdfrefobj. \pdfrefobj is used to mark which objects are used. Objects that have been created by \pdfobj but not used anywhere are not written to the output. 2) \pdfrefobj is available from versions 0.14* Thanh 17-May-2000 8:55:42-GMT,1783;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09700 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 02:55:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA32389 for pdftex-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 03:28:16 -0400 Received: from mail.piemme.it (IDENT:postfix@[151.4.239.162]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA32386 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 03:28:14 -0400 Received: from piemme.it (ara [150.3.6.212]) by mail.piemme.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F74E4910E for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:31:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3922594A.F9DA1219@piemme.it> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:33:14 +0200 From: Giuliano Cioffi <g.cioffi@piemme.it> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [it] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Fonts: pfb and pk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk sorry for the question, but why in the following document, the first test line uses the .pfb font and the second uses the .pk one? The ``\usefont'' seems to change some default and bitmap fonts are used instead of vector ones. (I have a font family called ``nun'') \documentclass[12pt]{article} \usepackage[italian]{babel} \begin{document} \textsf{Test Test Test} \usefont{T1}{cmss}{m}{n}% or \usefont{T1}{nun}{m}{n}% \textsf{Test Test Test} \end{document} -- ciao ciao, Giuliano #!/usr/bin/perl $i=$j=$r=$b=-16.0;while((print"\n"),$b++<15){foreach$a(0..78){print +(split //,' .:-;!/>)|&IH%*#')[$k&15];for($i=$k=$r=0;$j=$r*$r-$i*$i -2+$a/25,$i=2*$r*$i+$b/10,$j*$j+$i*$i<11&&$k++<111;$r=$j){}}} 17-May-2000 10:53:13-GMT,4916;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11924 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:53:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA00504 for pdftex-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 05:36:37 -0400 Received: from smtp01do.de.uu.net (smtp01do.de.uu.net [192.76.144.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00501 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 05:36:34 -0400 Received: from 192.109.126.97 (NS-1.mitgmbh.de [192.109.126.62]) by smtp01do.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with SMTP id MAA23944 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:40:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mitgmbh.de [192.109.126.82] by NS-1.MITGMBH.DE with David PostMan; 17 May 00 10:39:55 UT Message-ID: <392276FB.3C84CD4D@mitgmbh.de> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:39:55 +0200 From: Andreas Scherer <as@mitgmbh.de> Organization: MIT GmbH, Aachen, Germany X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: PDF support in CWEB 3.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, Don Knuth has released a major update of Levy/Knuth CWEB. The main new feature is support for PDF with the help of dvipdfm. Details are available at http://www-cs-staff.Stanford.EDU/~knuth/cweb.html. Some of you may be aware of my CWEBbin extension to Levy/Knuth CWEB (see ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/web/c_cpp/cwebbin). In cooperation with Thanh, I extended Thanh's "pdfwebmac.tex" (WEB support) for use with CWEB (and several natural languages besides English). With these macros, CWEBbin was able to create hyperlinked PDF documents from CWEB sources at least since 1997. Unfortunately, my attempts to convince Silvio Levy to integrate the CWEBbin stuff with CWEB proper failed, so I am keeping the separate strain of development. After downloading the recent version 3.6 of Levy/Knuth CWEB I am planning to update CWEBbin as well. Apart from bumping up the version number, at least one major change will be made to the pdf*cwebmac.tex macros: I want to enter the "Names of sections" as bookmarks just as dvipdfm does. I have joined this mailing list and am posting this message here because I want to keep the pdf*cwebmac.tex macros in sync with the general development of pdfTeX in particular and web2c/teTeX in general. A short investigation of the main resources shows that (a) The pdftex source archive seems not to contain any TeX macros. (b) pdftexlib-0.14e.tar.gz on CTAN is shipped with my macros as of April 1997, i.e., they match CWEB 3.1. These macros do _not_ work with recent versions of CWEB (at least 3.5). (c) CWEBbin has its own "texinputs/" subdirectory, where all pdf*cwebmac.tex macros are stored together with some other files. In order to improve this situation I kindly ask for your support and advice. What is the best way to release and integrate new and updated versions of my pdf*cwebmac.tex macros with the major packages that rely on them? The "systems/pdftex/" package on CTAN does not appear to be properly updated for quite some time. Instead, the most recent version of pdfTeX on CTAN is fully integrated with the "systems/web2c/" stuff and the support macros are shipped in the pdftexlib-0.14e.tar.gz archive. Who is responsible for this archive and how is it maintained between pdfTeX and web2c/teTeX? Shouldn't the CTAN manager be informed to clean up the directory structure for pdfTeX? As the pdf*cwebmac.tex macro files are automatically included when you apply the "-l" option of cweave patched by CWEBbin, it seems rational to include the macros with CWEBbin as well. (Note, however, that these macros can be used with plain CWEB; all you have to do is change the first line of the cweave output.) DEK's enthusiasm about the "HyperCWEB" feature suggests that I should get in touch with him or Silvio Levy again in order to try to include as much of my CWEBbin effort, especially the support for pdfTeX as an alternative to dvipdfm, into the mainstream CWEB development as possible. Depending on their response CWEBbin might be "dead," i.e., fully integrated with CWEB proper (and I'd consider this the best solution), or still "alive and kicking" (and this _might_ pose the problem that the pdf*cwebmac.tex macros could appear in yet another distribution). Note that apart from the out-dated versions of the pdf*cwebmac.tex I am currently not involved with the development of pdfTeX or web2c/teTeX (nor have I the resources to join in again). Note also that the work on CWEBbin 3.6 [p18] has not yet started, but I think the updated package could be available no later than the end of this month. I hope that your feedback can push me in the right direction. Thanks in advance -- Andreas 17-May-2000 12:04:56-GMT,2064;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13262 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:04:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA00869 for pdftex-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:50:04 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00866 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:50:02 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id NAA15295 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:52:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id NAA06602; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:57:55 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:57:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200005171157.NAA06602@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche <Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Fonts: pfb and pk In-Reply-To: <3922594A.F9DA1219@piemme.it> References: <3922594A.F9DA1219@piemme.it> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Concernant « Fonts: pfb and pk », Giuliano Cioffi écrit : « » sorry for the question, but why in the following document, the first » test line uses the .pfb font and the second uses the .pk one? because the second one calls a T1 EC font, which is metafont and does not exist as type 1. use ae virtual fonts id you want to fall back on the usual type 1 CM while using T1 as output encoding. » #!/usr/bin/perl » $i=$j=$r=$b=-16.0;while((print"\n"),$b++<15){foreach$a(0..78){print » +(split //,' .:-;!/>)|&IH%*#')[$k&15];for($i=$k=$r=0;$j=$r*$r-$i*$i » -2+$a/25,$i=2*$r*$i+$b/10,$j*$j+$i*$i<11&&$k++<111;$r=$j){}}} wow ;-) Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. 17-May-2000 12:16:08-GMT,1824;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13467 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:16:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00918 for pdftex-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:01:21 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00914 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:01:14 -0400 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12s2Z8-0003yX-00; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:04:42 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 12s2Z7-000669-00; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:04:41 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14626.35553.18057.9074@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:04:49 +0100 (BST) To: g.cioffi@piemme.it Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Fonts: pfb and pk In-Reply-To: <3922594A.F9DA1219@piemme.it> References: <3922594A.F9DA1219@piemme.it> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Giuliano Cioffi writes: > sorry for the question, but why in the following document, the first > test line uses the .pfb font and the second uses the .pk one? > The ``\usefont'' seems to change some default and bitmap fonts are > used instead of vector ones. (I have a font family called ``nun'') > and do you have a Type1 version of it? it must be listed in the psfonts.map file owned by pdftex sebastian 17-May-2000 13:22:12-GMT,1388;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14847 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:22:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01194 for pdftex-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:00:28 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01189 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:00:22 -0400 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (neveryon.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.220]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA18356 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:04:24 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: shifted graphics with metapost/pdflatex ? From: Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr> Date: 17 May 2000 15:00:43 +0200 Message-ID: <u2fxnxfo.fsf@supelec.fr> Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) XEmacs/21.2 (Melpomene) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Does anybody know why metapost graphics included with standard LaTeX commands (includegraphics) happen to be shifted from their expected location ? Using the same source with LaTeX, things are ok. Thanks in avance and sorry if I missed some things in the conversation ;-) -- Fabrice Popineau 17-May-2000 13:24:35-GMT,2279;000000000001 Return-Path: <kaja@daimi.au.dk> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14886 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:24:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sparkle.daimi.au.dk (sparkle.daimi.au.dk [130.225.16.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01221 for <texlive@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:03:21 -0400 Received: (from kaja@localhost) by sparkle.daimi.au.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02917; Wed, 17 May 2000 15:06:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Kaja P. Christiansen" <kaja@daimi.au.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14626.39275.989597.404399@sparkle.daimi.au.dk> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:06:51 +0200 (MET DST) To: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> Cc: ross@ics.mq.edu.au, texlive@tug.org, thanh@informatics.muni.cz Subject: Re: pdflatex from texlive5b fails In-Reply-To: <14626.38234.246893.162918@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <200005170138.LAA01194@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> <14626.26057.642735.930075@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <14626.38111.964367.691275@sparkle.daimi.au.dk> <14626.38234.246893.162918@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.1 Sebastian Rahtz writes: > zlib is compiled into the binaries, isnt it, in the default TeXLive > setup? did you change that, Kaja? Um, I got confused, it's been a tough day. There were no changes: binaries are compiled with the tl zlib. I checked the relevant lines in the log file and can't see any anomalies: make[4]: Leaving directory `/users/kaja/texlive/teTeX-1.0/texk/web2c/pdftexdir' ./../klibtool link c++ -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o pdftexdir/libpdf.a ../../libs/libtiff/libtiff.a ../../libs/libpng/libpng.a ../../libs/zlib/libz.a ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a ../../libs/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm c++ -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o pdftexdir/libpdf.a ../../libs/libtiff/libtiff.a ../../libs/libpng/libpng.a ../../libs/zlib/libz.a ../../libs/xpdf/xpdf/libxpdf.a ../../libs/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm Any ideas where else to look? Kaja 17-May-2000 14:25:54-GMT,1983;000000000001 Return-Path: <kaja@daimi.au.dk> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15969 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:25:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sparkle.daimi.au.dk (sparkle.daimi.au.dk [130.225.16.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01664 for <texlive@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:20:41 -0400 Received: (from kaja@localhost) by sparkle.daimi.au.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03216; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:23:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Kaja P. Christiansen" <kaja@daimi.au.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14626.43849.338919.6912@sparkle.daimi.au.dk> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:23:05 +0200 (MET DST) To: Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr> Cc: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk>, ross@ics.mq.edu.au, texlive@tug.org, thanh@informatics.muni.cz Subject: Re: pdflatex from texlive5b fails In-Reply-To: <puqlnv8j.fsf@supelec.fr> References: <200005170138.LAA01194@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> <14626.26057.642735.930075@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <14626.38111.964367.691275@sparkle.daimi.au.dk> <14626.38234.246893.162918@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <14626.39275.989597.404399@sparkle.daimi.au.dk> <puqlnv8j.fsf@supelec.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.1 Fabrice writes: > There is a command (can't remember the name) to check with which > dynamic libraries (if any) your program is linked. zlib is compiled into binaries... The only dynamic libraries are ldd /users/kaja/texlive/bin/sparc-sun-solaris2.7/pdftex libm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libm.so.1 libc.so.1 => /usr/lib/libc.so.1 libdl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libdl.so.1 Sebastian writes: > So the explanation must be that the zlib compiled into Kaja's binaries > does not run properly on Ross' computer. Could someone (who is not Ross or Kaja) try it out under solaris 2.7 too? 17-May-2000 14:39:54-GMT,1773;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16362 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:39:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01627 for pdftex-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:15:03 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01622 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:14:47 -0400 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (neveryon.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.220]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23803; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:19:01 +0200 To: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk> Cc: Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: shifted graphics with metapost/pdflatex ? References: <u2fxnxfo.fsf@supelec.fr> <200005171402.PAA21812@nag.co.uk> From: Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr> Date: 17 May 2000 16:15:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: David Carlisle's message of "Wed, 17 May 2000 15:02:06 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: <hfbxntzc.fsf@supelec.fr> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) XEmacs/21.2 (Melpomene) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk * David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk> writes: >> shifted from their expected location ? > to the right by paragraph indent? Their must be some bad interaction with something else, because I'm unable to reproduce the problem (shifted up or down) by stripping everything from the document. I was quite suprised and a bit prompt to report the problem because using LaTeX, the whole document is ok too. I'm looking into this and will report anything wrong I can find. -- Fabrice 17-May-2000 15:59:48-GMT,3307;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18476 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:59:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02309 for pdftex-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:44:59 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02300 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 10:44:45 -0400 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (neveryon.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.220]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA30139 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:49:12 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: shifted graphics with metapost/pdflatex ? From: Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr> Date: 17 May 2000 17:45:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: David Carlisle's message of "Wed, 17 May 2000 15:02:06 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: <zoppmb8m.fsf@supelec.fr> Lines: 90 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) XEmacs/21.2 (Melpomene) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ok, here is the sketch : given the following metapost and latex files: -------------- foo.mp ------------------ input boxes; beginfig(1); boxit.a(btex \strut Square etex); a.w - a.e = (2in, 0); a.n - a.s = (0, 2in); drawboxed(a); endfig; beginfig(2); circleit.a(btex \strut Circle etex); a.e - a.w = (2in, 0); a.n - a.s = (0, 2in); drawboxed(a); endfig end -------------- foo.tex ------------------- \documentclass{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} %\usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{} %\DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{eps}{*}{} \begin{document} \begin{figure}[ht] \begin{center} \includegraphics[width=0.5\textwidth]{foo.1} % \includegraphics{foo.1} \caption{A square} \label{fig:1} \end{center} \end{figure} \begin{figure}[ht] \begin{center} \includegraphics[width=0.5\textwidth]{foo.2} % \includegraphics{foo.2} \caption{A circle} \label{fig:2} \end{center} \end{figure} \end{document} ------------------------------------------------ If you scale the images, their origin is translated. Using latex/dvips, there is no problem. Here are some lines from the log file : -------------------------------------------------------------------------- (d:/Local/TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty Package: graphicx 1999/02/16 v1.0f Enhanced LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR) (d:/Local/TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty Package: keyval 1999/03/16 v1.13 key=value parser (DPC) \KV@toks@=\toks14 ) (d:/Local/TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty Package: graphics 1999/02/16 v1.0l Standard LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR) (d:/Local/TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty Package: trig 1999/03/16 v1.09 sin cos tan (DPC) ) (d:/Local/TeXLive/texmf/tex/latex/texlive/graphics.cfg) Package graphics Info: Driver file: pdftex.def on input line 80. (./pdftex.def File: pdftex.def 2000/05/12 v0.02u graphics/color for pdftex \Gread@gobject=\count87 )) \Gin@req@height=\dimen103 \Gin@req@width=\dimen104 ) (./foo.aux) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks in advance for any help ! -- Fabrice 17-May-2000 22:16:08-GMT,1457;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00009 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:16:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03720 for pdftex-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:05:44 -0400 Received: from alisier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03717 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 17:05:42 -0400 Received: from mahonia.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.58) by alisier.wanadoo.fr; 18 May 2000 00:09:17 +0200 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (213.56.250.239) by mahonia.wanadoo.fr; 18 May 2000 00:09:03 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: shifted graphics with metapost/pdflatex ? References: <zoppmb8m.fsf@supelec.fr> From: Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr> Date: 18 May 2000 00:06:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: Fabrice Popineau's message of "17 May 2000 17:45:29 +0200" Message-ID: <7lcsygpy.fsf@supelec.fr> Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) XEmacs/21.2 (Melpomene) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Well, I'm doing q & a myself :-) Anyway after being helped, it turned out that the culprit was some intermediate version of supp-pdf.tex . Problem fixed by now if you have the latest version of the files. Thanks to Hans Hagen. -- Fabrice 18-May-2000 3:38:55-GMT,1396;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07060 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:38:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04403 for pdftex-list; Wed, 17 May 2000 22:33:02 -0400 Received: from mail01.rzmi.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA04400 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 17 May 2000 22:32:59 -0400 Received: (qmail 2584 invoked by uid 0); 17 May 2000 19:36:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gmx.de) (194.29.36.205) by mail01.rzmi.gmx.net with SMTP; 17 May 2000 19:36:11 -0000 Message-ID: <3922F51B.9CC94B20@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:38:03 +0200 From: Stefan Friedrich <sf8@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: linearized pdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone! Does anyone know how to produce "linearized" pdf with pdftex or otherwise? I think it is also called "optimized pdf" or "bye serving" and has to do with downloading only the page which you want to view instead of having to download the whole file. Is there such a command for pdftex or dvipdfm? Thanks for any help Stefan 18-May-2000 8:52:24-GMT,1743;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13803 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 18 May 2000 02:52:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA05211 for pdftex-list; Thu, 18 May 2000 03:23:54 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05208 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 18 May 2000 03:23:50 -0400 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12sLeQ-0006J9-00; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:27:26 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 12sLeP-0003lo-00; Thu, 18 May 2000 09:27:25 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14627.43380.97363.236035@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:27:32 +0100 (BST) To: sf8@gmx.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: linearized pdf In-Reply-To: <3922F51B.9CC94B20@gmx.de> References: <3922F51B.9CC94B20@gmx.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Stefan Friedrich writes: > > Does anyone know how to produce "linearized" pdf with pdftex or > otherwise? load the pdf into full Acrobat and save it optimized or wait for the upcoming freestanding optimizer with Ghostscript neither pdftex nor dvipdfm have the option at present (and I do not think either author is working on it) sebastian 18-May-2000 9:39:01-GMT,1917;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14721 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 18 May 2000 03:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA05355 for pdftex-list; Thu, 18 May 2000 04:16:53 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA05352 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 18 May 2000 04:16:51 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.36]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAE2F9F; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:21:27 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000518095320.018508a0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:53:20 +0200 To: Stefan Friedrich <sf8@gmx.de> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: linearized pdf Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3922F51B.9CC94B20@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:38 PM 5/17/2000 +0200, Stefan Friedrich wrote: >Does anyone know how to produce "linearized" pdf with pdftex or >otherwise? I think it is also called "optimized pdf" or "bye serving" >and has to do with downloading only the page which you want to view >instead of having to download the whole file. Is there such a command >for pdftex or dvipdfm? You need exchange 3 or acrobat 4 for that. With the pdftex code, an old exchange will do. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 18-May-2000 11:30:39-GMT,1750;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16845 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:30:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA05564 for pdftex-list; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:55:37 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA05561 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 18 May 2000 05:55:33 -0400 Received: from remote142-127.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.127] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12sO1D-0006O0-00; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:59:07 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000518122005.3bcf87e8@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:20:05 +0200 To: Stefan Friedrich <sf8@gmx.de>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: linearized pdf In-Reply-To: <3922F51B.9CC94B20@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 21:38 17.05.2000 +0200, Stefan Friedrich wrote: > >Does anyone know how to produce "linearized" pdf with pdftex or >otherwise? I think it is also called "optimized pdf" or "bye serving" >and has to do with downloading only the page which you want to view >instead of having to download the whole file. Is there such a command >for pdftex or dvipdfm? No, but it is available in commercial products like Adobe Acrobat or Distiller. I have heard, that Ghostscript 6.20(?) will also be able to produce linearized pdf. Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 19-May-2000 21:16:38-GMT,1614;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07882 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:16:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15822 for pdftex-list; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:24:46 -0400 Received: from elch.de.uu.net (elch.de.uu.net [192.76.144.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15819 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:24:43 -0400 Received: from gmx.de (pec-14.au2.b.uunet.de [149.228.254.14]) by elch.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id WAA23292; Fri, 19 May 2000 22:25:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3925A3BF.C169390F@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 22:27:43 +0200 From: Tobias Burnus <burnus@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [de] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: sf8@gmx.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: linearized pdf References: <3922F51B.9CC94B20@gmx.de> <14627.43380.97363.236035@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Sebastian, hallo Sebastian, > > Does anyone know how to produce "linearized" pdf with pdftex or > > otherwise? > or wait for the upcoming freestanding optimizer with Ghostscript It is already in the beta 5.20 which is (also as CVS) available at http://sourceforge.net/, but the optimizer doesn't really work now: The result is ok (according the technical specifications of Adobe), but Acrobat Reader doesn't recognize the file as linearized. Tobias 19-May-2000 21:39:33-GMT,3374;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08458 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 19 May 2000 15:39:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16203 for pdftex-list; Fri, 19 May 2000 16:20:47 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16200 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 19 May 2000 16:20:46 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12suFx-0007Dw-00; Fri, 19 May 2000 22:24:29 +0100 Received: from max76.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.76] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12suFw-0005mU-00; Fri, 19 May 2000 22:24:28 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14629.43888.776573.458134@localhost.localdomain> Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 22:00:32 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org cc: mmccool@mud.cgl.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Michael D. McCool" <mmccool@mud.cgl.uwaterloo.ca>] In-Reply-To: <200005191708.NAA14372@tug.org> References: <200005191708.NAA14372@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > In case anyone is interested in a case study/success story: > > I'm proceedings editor for a small computer graphics conference: > Graphics Interface, www.graphicsinterface.org. We just finished > publishing our proceedings via a PDF-to-imagesetter process. A lot > of the submitted papers, and all the front and back matter, used pdftex > and people were as a whole really impressed with it. so I should hope... > Anyways, some issues, sorry if these are documented somewhere. Also, > 1. Can fonts be embedded? I.e. I want to FORCE embedding of ALL > fonts... thats the default. > 2. Can images in CMYK format be used? using which graphics format? yes, I think I have done that > 3. Can ICC (colour calibration) profiles be associated with the > output PDF? pass > 4. Can a consistent page size be enforced? Was planning on asking people not really sure what you have in mind. > to use the a4wide package... however, does anybody know of a tool > to change the page size in a PDF file? I am sure the QUITE tools (www.quite.com) would have something for you > 5. Line drawings generated with xfig, then passed through epstopdf > were broken (missing graphic elements). This was also a problem > even if I used Distiller to convert the EPS files to PDF. Is this > a bug in xfig or pdftex? hard to say, without seeing the files. probably a bug in xfig, if anything, or ghostscript > 6. Some installations are not set up with English hypenation > rules. It would be nice to have SOME set of hypenation rules installed, thats up to you to organize. > 7. Anyone know of a tool to "superimpose" two PDF files? In particular, > I want to add headers and footers to existing PDF documents... the QUITE tools do that kind of stuff. or you can do it in TeX Sebastian 20-May-2000 14:26:30-GMT,2545;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27606 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 20 May 2000 08:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA18199 for pdftex-list; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:04:21 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18196 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 20 May 2000 09:04:19 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.148.155]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA80C; Sat, 20 May 2000 16:08:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000520110615.00ad13b0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:06:15 +0200 To: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Michael D. McCool" <mmccool@mud.cgl.uwaterloo.ca>] Cc: pdftex@tug.org, mmccool@mud.cgl.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <14629.43888.776573.458134@localhost.localdomain> References: <200005191708.NAA14372@tug.org> <200005191708.NAA14372@tug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:00 PM 5/19/2000 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > 2. Can images in CMYK format be used? >using which graphics format? Sure. Whatever color model pdf supports can be included. > > 3. Can ICC (colour calibration) profiles be associated with the > > output PDF? >pass Anuthing can go into the file by building the appropriate objects. > > 4. Can a consistent page size be enforced? Was planning on asking people >not really sure what you have in mind. can be done with perl script or pdftex (or any tex and distiller) > > 7. Anyone know of a tool to "superimpose" two PDF files? In particular, > > I want to add headers and footers to existing PDF documents... >the QUITE tools do that kind of stuff. or you can do it in TeX Also pdftex, since I'm doing it sometimes -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 22-May-2000 13:42:29-GMT,1400;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20468 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:42:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22088 for pdftex-list; Mon, 22 May 2000 08:22:09 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22085 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 22 May 2000 08:22:07 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3B13790192; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:18:41 +0200 Message-ID: <392945A7.7B869D45@forprint.se> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:35:20 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Can pdftex take two existing pdf docs and merge them like this. doc1.pdf = One page doc2.pdf = One page pdftex doc1.pdf -> doc2.pdf = doc3.pdf doc3.pdf = One page with doc1 as backgrund an doc2 as foreground. Is this posseble with pdftex? Did´nt se anything about in the man page. Anders 22-May-2000 16:34:50-GMT,2071;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25270 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:34:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22632 for pdftex-list; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:23:42 -0400 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22629 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:23:39 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.141.141]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id FUYZ1A01.2GZ; Mon, 22 May 2000 18:27:10 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:24:23 +0200 To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Combine_two_pdf=B4s?= Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <392945A7.7B869D45@forprint.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA22630 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 03:35 PM 5/22/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: >Can pdftex take two existing pdf docs and merge them like this. >doc1.pdf = One page >doc2.pdf = One page > >pdftex >doc1.pdf -> doc2.pdf = doc3.pdf >doc3.pdf = One page with doc1 as backgrund an doc2 as foreground. > >Is this posseble with pdftex? >Did´nt se anything about in the man page. texexec --pdfarrange --result=doc3.pdf doc1.pdf doc2.pdf See manual at our site or latest MAPS. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 23-May-2000 8:18:38-GMT,2428;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA19098 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 23 May 2000 02:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24696 for pdftex-list; Tue, 23 May 2000 02:48:56 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24693 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 23 May 2000 02:48:54 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A71BA8902A2; Tue, 23 May 2000 09:45:31 +0200 Message-ID: <392A4913.3588F6D2@forprint.se> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:02:11 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jepp I´m on linux.. Just one quick question before I get started compiling stuff. Do I only need to update pdftex? I´m on rh 6.1 here and pdftex, tex etc is in rpm form so do I need to re-compile all the other stuff to so that they stay togethor or can I only use --prefix=/usr.. This is to good becouse it solves a milion things over at my place. A very big thanks.. /Anders Hans Hagen wrote: > At 08:01 AM 5/23/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: > > >That didn´t produce anything, I think that´s becouse my pdftex tex > >thing is outofdate. I´ve got 3.14159-13b. But really I have no > > (1) You need at least version 14d (f now) since you need pdf inclusion. > > (2) If you run linux, you may need to generate formats: run texconfig, and > uncomment the cont-en and cont-nl. Then run texexec --make. > > If you got that far, we'll enter the next stage. > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- 23-May-2000 10:42:05-GMT,1399;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21802 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 23 May 2000 04:41:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA25113 for pdftex-list; Tue, 23 May 2000 05:27:14 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25110 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 23 May 2000 05:27:12 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AC3510AE01B0; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:23:49 +0200 Message-ID: <392A6E2D.151491C6@forprint.se> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:40:29 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Can=B4t?= get source from ftp. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk It gives me mis-configured DNS and I don´t seem to find any mirrors of it. And I don´t have control over my DNS servers. I try´ed from home and from my jobb to get in to the ftp server with no luck.. I will try to hook up with modem and see if I get any luck from there. Anders 23-May-2000 13:54:17-GMT,1899;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25845 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 23 May 2000 07:54:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25878 for pdftex-list; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:33:48 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25875 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:33:45 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26023; Tue, 23 May 2000 09:37:42 -0400 (EDT) To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Can=B4t?= get source from ftp. References: <392A6E2D.151491C6@forprint.se> From: Ed L Cashin <ecashin@coe.uga.edu> Date: 23 May 2000 09:37:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: Anders Alstrin's message of "Tue, 23 May 2000 12:40:29 +0100" Message-ID: <m3d7md1j6i.fsf@coe.uga.edu> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> writes: > It gives me mis-configured DNS and I don´t seem to find any > mirrors of it. Maybe you could contact your ISP and ask them to configure their DNS such that your IP has an associated name. Lots of internet services will not be available to you if your ISP has no working reverse DNS. > And I don´t have control over my DNS servers. Then maybe you can bribe the sysadmins ... maybe bring them some "user friendly" cartoons or something. ;) -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 23-May-2000 15:39:19-GMT,1862;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28897 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 23 May 2000 09:39:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26286 for pdftex-list; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:22:49 -0400 Received: from spcem01sgl.sugar-land.omnes.net (spcem01sgl.sugar-land.omnes.net [163.188.48.51]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26282 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:22:46 -0400 Received: from sugar-land.spc.slb.com ([163.185.116.175]) by spcem01sgl.sugar-land.omnes.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58147U25000L25000S0V35) with ESMTP id net for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:17:18 -0500 Message-ID: <392AA1D6.76E35208@sugar-land.spc.slb.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:20:54 -0500 From: Bruno Luong <luong@sugar-land.spc.slb.com> Organization: Schlumberger, Sugar-land Product Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: where is pdftex.web in the 0.14e source? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I tried to compile pdftex 0.14e. I have downloaded 2 files from Thanh's ftp server: pdftexsrc-20000217.tgz and tetex-supp.tgz after unpacking the files and runing sucessfully 'configure', I run make pdftex I got the following error message: make: Fatal error: Don't know how to make target `pdftex.web' Current working directory /tmp/pdftex_0.14e/src/texk/web2c *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `pdftex' I search pdftex.web in the whole tree directory, but no sight of it! What did I do wrong? Thank you very much. Bruno 23-May-2000 18:52:54-GMT,1843;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04326 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:52:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27163 for pdftex-list; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:41:57 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA27160 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:41:54 -0400 From: tim@maths.tcd.ie Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id <aa04308@salmon>; 23 May 2000 19:45:52 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: where is pdftex.web in the 0.14e source? In-Reply-To: <392AA1D6.76E35208@sugar-land.spc.slb.com> from Bruno Luong at "May 23, 2000 10:20:54 am" To: luong@sugar-land.spc.slb.com Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 19:45:51 +0100 (BST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL49 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <200005231945.aa98345@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > after unpacking the files and runing sucessfully 'configure', I run > make pdftex > > I got the following error message: > > make: Fatal error: Don't know how to make target `pdftex.web' ... > I search pdftex.web in the whole tree directory, but no sight of it! I haven't looked at the sources for pdftex lately, but unless there has been a change, pdftex.web is created "on the fly" from tex.web, tex.ch and pdftex.ch, using the program "tie". I think you are probably meant to add your pdftex sources to the main web2c directory (where tex.web lives), eg by getting the latest teTeX sources and substituting the newer pdftex ones (if indeed they are newer). 24-May-2000 8:42:27-GMT,1753;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23458 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 24 May 2000 02:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA28956 for pdftex-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:24:18 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28953 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 24 May 2000 03:24:15 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A0E75710228; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:20:55 +0200 Message-ID: <392BA2E2.1FDCDA8@forprint.se> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:37:38 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523181813.00b3b440@pop.wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ok.. I think this is my last question untill succes. I did´nt get it to do anythng with only compiling pdftex so I wipe´d my old install and compiled the hole beta tree. And now i produce error code´s and that´s good becouse that make´s the error searching a hole lot easy´er. : ) The error messege that I get now is. "Sorry, I can´t find format 'cont-en.efmt'; will try 'context.efmt'. I can´t find the format file 'context.efmt'!" Thanks for being so helpful I really appreciate it. 24-May-2000 12:04:11-GMT,2450;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27104 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:04:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA29482 for pdftex-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:43:46 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29479 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:43:43 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.141.25]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAC3559; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:47:26 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000524134245.018316c0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:42:45 +0200 To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Combine_two_pdf=B4s?= Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <392BA2E2.1FDCDA8@forprint.se> References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523181813.00b3b440@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id GAA29480 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:37 AM 5/24/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: >Ok.. I think this is my last question untill succes. >I did´nt get it to do anythng with only compiling pdftex so >I wipe´d my old install and compiled the hole beta tree. >And now i produce error code´s and that´s good becouse >that make´s the error searching a hole lot easy´er. : ) > >The error messege that I get now is. >"Sorry, I can´t find format 'cont-en.efmt'; will try 'context.efmt'. >I can´t find the format file 'context.efmt'!" > >Thanks for being so helpful I really appreciate it. texconfig --edit uncomment the lines cont-en cont-nl and if no formats are generated, run texexec --make en nl Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 24-May-2000 12:04:18-GMT,2617;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27111 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:04:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA29513 for pdftex-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:55:23 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29510 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 24 May 2000 06:55:21 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A2616D70260; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:52:01 +0200 Message-ID: <392BD45C.AB9DE1F4@forprint.se> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:08:45 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>, PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >Ok.. I think this is my last question untill succes. >I did´nt get it to do anythng with only compiling pdftex so >I wipe´d my old install and compiled the hole beta tree. >And now i produce error code´s and that´s good becouse >that make´s the error searching a hole lot easy´er. : ) > >The error messege that I get now is. >"Sorry, I can´t find format 'cont-en.efmt'; will try 'context.efmt'. >I can´t find the format file 'context.efmt'!" > >Thanks for being so helpful I really appreciate it. Hmm i did some mucking around and suddenly it worked. Does not exacly know what i did. I have been digging into www.tug.org to find some dokumentation on texexec but I can´t find some docs on it. I mean I find a lot of documentation but not on what i´m intrested in. And Hans. Thanks for your help.. but texexec --pdfarrange --result=doc3 doc1.pdf doc2.pdf doesen´t do what i want it to do. It takes doc1 and doc2 and creates a two sided pdf. I want doc1.pdf to be the background layer of doc1. I try´ed texexec --pdfcombine --result=doc3 doc1.pdf doc2.pdf it produces one single pdf doc with only doc1.pdf and no doc2.pdf could be found. And I haven´t found a manual of texexec with --pdfcombine explaind. All are out of date. And pdftex manual talks say´s that it´s posseble to use a pdf as a bakground but it doesn´t say anything how it´s posseble. /Anders 24-May-2000 15:23:18-GMT,2132;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02019 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 24 May 2000 09:23:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30259 for pdftex-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:13:13 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30255 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:13:11 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.59]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAB4F1; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:13:38 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000524170935.014cf930@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:09:35 +0200 To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Combine_two_pdf=B4s?= Cc: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <392BD45C.AB9DE1F4@forprint.se> References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id KAA30256 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 02:08 PM 5/24/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: >I have been digging into www.tug.org to find some dokumentation >on texexec but I can´t find some docs on it. >I mean I find a lot of documentation but not on what i´m intrested in. Go to www.pragma-ade.nl, browse a bit around, and you'll find all kind of manuals and samples. In this case: home -> context -> texexec bring you to the manual. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 24-May-2000 15:23:31-GMT,2324;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02029 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 24 May 2000 09:23:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30228 for pdftex-list; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:05:30 -0400 Received: from k3.core.aeccom.com (IDENT:root@gate1.aeccom.com [193.158.80.174]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30224 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:05:27 -0400 Received: from ampato.core.aeccom.com (IDENT:root@ampato.core.aeccom.com [192.168.0.11]) by k3.core.aeccom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13528; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:08:02 +0200 Received: (from lutzeb@localhost) by ampato.core.aeccom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10958; Wed, 24 May 2000 17:08:04 +0200 From: Dirk Lutzebaeck <lutzeb@aeccom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <14635.61524.548729.997386@ampato.core.aeccom.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 17:08:04 +0200 (CEST) To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Cc: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>, PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= In-Reply-To: <392BD45C.AB9DE1F4@forprint.se> References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> <392BD45C.AB9DE1F4@forprint.se> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id KAA30225 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Anders Alstrin writes: > Thanks for your help.. > but > texexec --pdfarrange --result=doc3 doc1.pdf doc2.pdf > doesen´t do what i want it to do. > It takes doc1 and doc2 and creates a two sided pdf. > I want doc1.pdf to be the background layer of doc1. > I try´ed > texexec --pdfcombine --result=doc3 doc1.pdf doc2.pdf > it produces one single pdf doc with only doc1.pdf and > no doc2.pdf could be found. > > And I haven´t found a manual of texexec with --pdfcombine > explaind. All are out of date. > And pdftex manual talks say´s that it´s posseble to use a pdf > as a bakground but it doesn´t say anything how it´s posseble. Leave out the .pdf extensions at the end. Then it works for me Dirk 25-May-2000 8:15:45-GMT,2754;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA27122 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 25 May 2000 02:15:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA00377 for pdftex-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:03:30 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00374 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:03:27 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AD854BE30274; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:00:05 +0200 Message-ID: <392CEF82.46CC42C2@forprint.se> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:16:50 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dirk Lutzebaeck <lutzeb@aeccom.com>, PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> <392BD45C.AB9DE1F4@forprint.se> <14635.61524.548729.997386@ampato.core.aeccom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dirk Lutzebaeck wrote: > Anders Alstrin writes: > > Thanks for your help.. > > but > > texexec --pdfarrange --result=doc3 doc1.pdf doc2.pdf > > doesen´t do what i want it to do. > > It takes doc1 and doc2 and creates a two sided pdf. > > I want doc1.pdf to be the background layer of doc1. > > I try´ed > > texexec --pdfcombine --result=doc3 doc1.pdf doc2.pdf > > it produces one single pdf doc with only doc1.pdf and > > no doc2.pdf could be found. > > > > And I haven´t found a manual of texexec with --pdfcombine > > explaind. All are out of date. > > And pdftex manual talks say´s that it´s posseble to use a pdf > > as a bakground but it doesn´t say anything how it´s posseble. > > Leave out the .pdf extensions at the end. Then it works for me texexec --pdfcombine --result=doc3 doc1 doc2 It only takes the first pdf (doc1) and that is all i see in the final pdf doc. I try:ed to make a simple pdfcombine.tex file but my lack of experience of tex results in many error codes. ------------------------------------------ \usepackage{graphicx} \begin{document} \pdfximage{doc1.pdf} \pdfximage{doc2.pdf} \end{document} -------------------------------------------- > pdftex pdfcombine.tex ! Undefined control sequence 1.4 \usepackage [pdftex]{graphicx} and so on.. The more that I read about pdftex the more I understand that it is a very powerful tool. 25-May-2000 9:15:49-GMT,1487;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28270 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:15:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA00480 for pdftex-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:53:26 -0400 Received: from aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be [139.165.32.133]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA00475 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 25 May 2000 03:53:24 -0400 Received: from iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be (IDENT:root@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be [139.165.121.43]) by aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA25940 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:57:27 +0200 Received: (from quy@localhost) by iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/Nguyen-Dai Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org>) id KAA06263 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:59:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:59:45 -0400 From: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> To: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: pdflatex & PSfrag ? Message-ID: <20000525105945.A6244@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> Reply-To: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Organization: LTAS-ULG X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.12 RedHat-6.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, There is a direct way to use PSFrag with pdfLaTeX ? I have to use `ps2pdf' (Ghostscript) for PDF file... but I would like use pdflatex directly :-) Thanks for any ideas, NDQ. 25-May-2000 13:28:37-GMT,2644;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02996 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:28:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01307 for pdftex-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:17:55 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01304 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:17:53 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.24]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAC5C8D; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:21:43 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000525151326.00805d20@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:13:26 +0200 To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Combine_two_pdf=B4s?= Cc: Dirk Lutzebaeck <lutzeb@aeccom.com>, PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <392CEF82.46CC42C2@forprint.se> References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> <392BD45C.AB9DE1F4@forprint.se> <14635.61524.548729.997386@ampato.core.aeccom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:16 AM 5/25/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: >texexec --pdfcombine --result=doc3 doc1 doc2 There are several -pdf... options. In your case you need: --pdfarrange. Combine combines pages to one page. As soon as the maps is officially published, I'll put a copy of the article describing this in more detail on our site. >I try:ed to make a simple pdfcombine.tex file but my lack of experience >of tex results in many error codes. No need for a pdfcombine.tex. Texexec uses context to process the already typeset latex files. texexec --pdfarrange --result=file-c file-a file-b Actually, it's a side effect of --pdfcombine, which you can use to make booklets and there are options like adding empty pages and setting the layout too. If you look at the temp texexec.tex file (which is the on egenerated and processed) you can get an impression of what is happening in terms of tex. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-2000 14:53:47-GMT,2553;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05091 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 25 May 2000 08:53:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01658 for pdftex-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:35:02 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01655 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:35:00 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A94F35A0180; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:31:43 +0200 Message-ID: <392D4B4D.718C75E0@forprint.se> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:48:29 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> <392BD45C.AB9DE1F4@forprint.se> <14635.61524.548729.997386@ampato.core.aeccom.com> <3.0.6.32.20000525151326.00805d20@pop.wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen wrote: > At 10:16 AM 5/25/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: > > >texexec --pdfcombine --result=doc3 doc1 doc2 > > There are several -pdf... options. In your case you need: --pdfarrange. > Combine combines pages to one page. As soon as the maps is officially > published, I'll put a copy of the article describing this in more detail on > our site. > I got succes in combineing two pdf docs into one two paged pdf. And thats great. But What I wanted was to take one pdf and use it as background layer for another pdf. And from what I understand you cannot do that with --pdfarrange or --pdfcombine? So I have to do an empty tex file and tell it two take the two pdf´s and put it into one pdf. But my experience lacks of understanding tetex things. So now I have learn a bit of tetex and that´s not to bad.. My intuition was not to be an ashole ho does´nt RTFM here.. So I have printed out the "not so short manual of tetex" and will begin to read it a.s.a.p. Now I know that it´s possible to do it and thats so good for the things i´m doing. It really opens a lot of door´s and takes down some walls with it.. And a really big thank´s for trying to help a tetex newbi. /Anders 25-May-2000 15:01:48-GMT,3249;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05279 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01725 for pdftex-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:43:53 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01722 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 25 May 2000 09:43:50 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB634530180; Thu, 25 May 2000 16:40:35 +0200 Message-ID: <392D4D60.3D6E10F3@forprint.se> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:57:21 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=A5s?= References: <200005251128.NAA09084@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh wrote: > > It only takes the first pdf (doc1) and that is all i see in the final > > pdf > > doc. > > I try:ed to make a simple pdfcombine.tex file but my lack of experience > > of tex results in many error codes. > > ------------------------------------------ > > \usepackage{graphicx} > > > > \begin{document} > > \pdfximage{doc1.pdf} > > \pdfximage{doc2.pdf} > > \end{document} > > -------------------------------------------- > > > pdftex pdfcombine.tex > > > > ! Undefined control sequence > > 1.4 \usepackage > > [pdftex]{graphicx} > > > > and so on.. > > it looks like you are not a latex user, arent' you? Yepp that true.. I´s been around on my linux system for 4 years now but I haven´t explored it untill now. : ) > > > I suggest to have a look at some short intriduction into latex. > The Not So Short Introduction to LaTeX by Tobias Oetiker, for example, is a > good one (ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf) > Afterward, You can start with the simple example, let's say f.tex that > looks like: > I just printed it. > > ==================== cut here ========================== > \documenclass{article} > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > \usepackage[a4paper,nofoothead,left=0pt,right=0pt]{geometry} > > \begin{document} > > \includegraphics{doc1.pdf} > \newpage > > \includegraphics{doc2.pdf} > \newpage > > \end{document} > ==================== cut here ========================== > > and run `pdflatex f' I got an "! Undefined control sequence" for every line so that "not to short" is exacly what i need i think. > > > in order to merge doc1 and doc2, supposing that they are one-page pdf. The > size of individual pages can be controlled by giving options to > \includegraphics and the geometry package. See documentation on how to use it. > > If doc1 and doc2 have multiple pages, you can do i.e. > > \includegraphics[page=1]{doc1.pdf} > \includegraphics[page=2]{doc1.pdf} > .... > > This requies the latest pdftex.def at TUG site. That pdftex.def thing I got. Thanks a lot. /Anders 25-May-2000 18:13:14-GMT,3010;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11605 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:13:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03053 for pdftex-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:56:37 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03050 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:56:34 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.146]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA30DC; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:00:14 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000525195137.0184ddc0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 19:51:37 +0200 To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Combine_two_pdf=B4s?= Cc: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org>, ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <392D4B4D.718C75E0@forprint.se> References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> <392BD45C.AB9DE1F4@forprint.se> <14635.61524.548729.997386@ampato.core.aeccom.com> <3.0.6.32.20000525151326.00805d20@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id MAA03051 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 04:48 PM 5/25/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: >I got succes in combineing two pdf docs into one two paged pdf. >And thats great. >But What I wanted was to take one pdf and use it as background layer for >another >pdf. And from what I understand you cannot do that with --pdfarrange or >--pdfcombine? >So I have to do an empty tex file and tell it two take the two pdf´s and put >it >into one pdf. >But my experience lacks of understanding tetex things. >So now I have learn a bit of tetex and that´s not to bad.. Hm. Better learn a bit of context -) Although it's not a topic for this list, here is a hack: \starttext \setupoutput [pdftex] \defineoverlay [something] [{\externalfigure[onepagefile.pdf][factor=max]}] \setupbackgrounds [page] [background=something] \copypages [multipagefile.pdf] \stoptext Copy this into whatever.tex, substitute onepagefile.pdf and multipagefile.pdf and run texexec whateverfile --once and voila. I can add this feature to texexec (--pdfcopy is already there, handy for downscaling when printing, so something --background=somefile is rather trivial.). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 25-May-2000 18:21:53-GMT,1616;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11867 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:21:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03151 for pdftex-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:11:35 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA03148 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:11:34 -0400 Received: from remote142-175.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.175] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12v2AP-0007gd-00; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:15:33 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000525192340.09f73816@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 19:23:40 +0200 To: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org>, pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: pdflatex & PSfrag ? In-Reply-To: <20000525105945.A6244@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:59 25.05.2000 -0400, Quy wrote: >Hi, >There is a direct way to use PSFrag with pdfLaTeX ? >I have to use `ps2pdf' (Ghostscript) for PDF file... >but I would like use pdflatex directly :-) No. But you can use separate file(s) for your psfrag images, convert them with epstopdf in pdf files and include them with the graphicx package in your pdflatex file. Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 25-May-2000 19:45:58-GMT,2205;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14054 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 25 May 2000 13:45:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03401 for pdftex-list; Thu, 25 May 2000 14:37:17 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA03398 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 25 May 2000 14:37:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 22196 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 2000 19:40:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gmx.de) (194.29.37.248) by mail04.rzmi.gmx.net with SMTP; 25 May 2000 19:40:47 -0000 Message-ID: <392D7F09.478BC532@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 21:29:13 +0200 From: Stefan Friedrich <sf8@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: linearized pdf References: <3.0.6.32.20000518095320.018508a0@pop.wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen wrote: > At 09:38 PM 5/17/2000 +0200, Stefan Friedrich wrote: > > >Does anyone know how to produce "linearized" pdf with pdftex or > >otherwise? I think it is also called "optimized pdf" or "bye serving" > >and has to do with downloading only the page which you want to view > >instead of having to download the whole file. Is there such a command > >for pdftex or dvipdfm? > > You need exchange 3 or acrobat 4 for that. With the pdftex code, an old > exchange will do. > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- I tried that using exchange 3 and saved the doc as optimized. However, when it comes to downloading, I still have to wait for the whole doc to be transferred before I can see the first page. What went wrong? Thanks Stefan 26-May-2000 6:36:25-GMT,2798;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00513 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 00:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA04903 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:27:45 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04900 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:27:42 -0400 Received: from max98.public.ox.ac.uk (max98.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.98]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA06403; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:31:45 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 07:30:06 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley <ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk> To: Stefan Friedrich <sf8@gmx.de> cc: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: linearized pdf In-Reply-To: <392D7F09.478BC532@gmx.de> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10005260726170.25838-100000@auk.stats> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 25 May 2000, Stefan Friedrich wrote: > Hans Hagen wrote: > > > At 09:38 PM 5/17/2000 +0200, Stefan Friedrich wrote: > > > > >Does anyone know how to produce "linearized" pdf with pdftex or > > >otherwise? I think it is also called "optimized pdf" or "bye serving" > > >and has to do with downloading only the page which you want to view > > >instead of having to download the whole file. Is there such a command > > >for pdftex or dvipdfm? > > > > You need exchange 3 or acrobat 4 for that. With the pdftex code, an old > > exchange will do. > > > > Hans > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > I tried that using exchange 3 and saved the doc as optimized. However, when > it comes to downloading, I still have to wait for the whole doc to be > transferred before I can see the first page. What went wrong? You also need an http server that can `byte serve' and is set up to do so. Apache ones normally are. (Just to reinforce that, it has to be an http not ftp download.) We routinely use Exchange 3 on Solaris for this purpose. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 26-May-2000 6:59:02-GMT,1976;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00914 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 00:59:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA04995 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:46:41 -0400 Received: from aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be [139.165.32.133]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04992 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:46:37 -0400 Received: from iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be (IDENT:root@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be [139.165.121.43]) by aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA72254; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:50:44 +0200 Received: (from quy@localhost) by iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/Nguyen-Dai Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org>) id IAA10599; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:53:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:53:03 -0400 From: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> To: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Cc: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: pdflatex & PSfrag ? Message-ID: <20000526085303.C10549@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> Reply-To: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> References: <20000525105945.A6244@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> <3.0.1.16.20000525192340.09f73816@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000525192340.09f73816@localhost>; from oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de on Thu, May 25, 2000 at 07:23:40PM +0200 Organization: Vietnamese Linux Users Group X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.12 RedHat-6.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 07:23:40PM +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > No. But you can use separate file(s) for your psfrag > images, convert them with epstopdf in pdf files and > include them with the graphicx package in your > pdflatex file. Thanks ! I hope 'PSFrag' will support pdftex soon :-) so one can use somethings like : \usepackage[pdftex]{psfrag} :-) Regards, NDQ -- Ngu+.a non ha'u dda' 26-May-2000 7:13:46-GMT,2159;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01304 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA05057 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 02:04:22 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA05054 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 02:04:18 -0400 Received: from remote142-134.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.134] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 12vEEJ-0007WZ-00; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:08:24 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000526090435.0ba784b0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:04:35 +0200 To: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: pdflatex & PSfrag ? Cc: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <20000526085303.C10549@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> References: <3.0.1.16.20000525192340.09f73816@localhost> <20000525105945.A6244@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> <3.0.1.16.20000525192340.09f73816@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:53 26.05.2000 -0400, Quy wrote: >On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 07:23:40PM +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >> No. But you can use separate file(s) for your psfrag >> images, convert them with epstopdf in pdf files and >> include them with the graphicx package in your >> pdflatex file. > >Thanks ! >I hope 'PSFrag' will support pdftex soon :-) so >one can use somethings like : >\usepackage[pdftex]{psfrag} :-) No :-( PostScript has the full power of a programming language, PDF has only a subset of the possibilities. Therefore PSfrag cannot ported to pdf. Therefore if you want to use PSfrag (or pstricks, ...) you need a program that interprets the PostScript code (VTeX for example). AFAIK there are no plans to add a PostScript interpreter to pdfTeX. Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 26-May-2000 8:04:12-GMT,2010;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02237 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 02:04:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA05371 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 02:54:07 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05368 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 02:54:05 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.127]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAD5BE0; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:56:58 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000526084917.01565380@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:49:17 +0200 To: Stefan Friedrich <sf8@gmx.de> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: linearized pdf Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <392D7F09.478BC532@gmx.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20000518095320.018508a0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:29 PM 5/25/2000 +0200, Stefan Friedrich wrote: >I tried that using exchange 3 and saved the doc as optimized. However, when >it comes to downloading, I still have to wait for the whole doc to be >transferred before I can see the first page. What went wrong? When there are a lot of fonts used on the page to be viewed, all those fonts and other resources are downloaded first. In many pdf files, a page of text is only a few k (compressed) while the fonts are still big. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-2000 8:59:13-GMT,2980;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03263 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 02:59:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA05810 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 03:30:20 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05807 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 03:30:16 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A55616130270; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:27:02 +0200 Message-ID: <392E4754.BD45BCFA@forprint.se> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:43:48 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= [OFF TOPIC] References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> <392BD45C.AB9DE1F4@forprint.se> <14635.61524.548729.997386@ampato.core.aeccom.com> <3.0.6.32.20000525151326.00805d20@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000525195137.0184ddc0@pop.wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk SUCCES. Thanks a lot.. that did it. Now I have to figure out how to maintain the original size of the two pdf doc´s. My two pdf docs are W=241 H=153. I also notised that it crops out all white space in my pdf docs and the workaround I found was to put one white pixel in two of the corners. It would be great if there was an option to maintain the original size of the pdf docs. But I think the manual could help me there. Another thing that puzzels me is why it does print the pagenumber on the page. Shouldent the default be to not print it? And ahh there are a lot of config files and it´s really hard to figure out which files does what and which is related to what. And if this Hans Hagen wrote: > At 04:48 PM 5/25/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: > > >I got succes in combineing two pdf docs into one two paged pdf. > >And thats great. > >But What I wanted was to take one pdf and use it as background layer for > >another > >pdf. And from what I understand you cannot do that with --pdfarrange or > >--pdfcombine? > >So I have to do an empty tex file and tell it two take the two pdf´s and put > >it > >into one pdf. > >But my experience lacks of understanding tetex things. > >So now I have learn a bit of tetex and that´s not to bad.. > > I can add this feature to texexec (--pdfcopy is already there, handy for > downscaling when printing, so something --background=somefile is rather > trivial.). > This would be a lot easy´er and it would be great if it had an option to take the original size of the pdf docs. And again thanks. /Anders 26-May-2000 10:42:06-GMT,1680;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA05082 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 04:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA06884 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 05:25:27 -0400 Received: from host.iinte.edu.pl (host.iinte.edu.pl [157.25.178.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA06880 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 05:25:23 -0400 Received: from Stas98 ([157.25.180.229]) by host.iinte.edu.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03884 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:18:20 +0200 Message-ID: <016701bfc6fd$a8ddd8c0$e5b4199d@Stas98.iinte.edu.pl> From: "Stanislaw Romanski" <romanski@iinte.edu.pl> To: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: pdfTeX warning Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:32:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello ! The warnings of type: ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{xxxxxxxx} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one appear when referrencing to other files, but the PDF produced seems to be OK.. Is this: a/ the same bug as in 14e, already mentioned on this list b/ something new (?) c/ the bug was fixed and I have something bad in my files :-( I am using pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-pretest-20000510 (Web2c 7.3.1x) Fabrice's Windows compilation. Stanislaw Romanski 26-May-2000 13:11:50-GMT,2374;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07856 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:11:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA07860 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:28:30 -0400 Received: from id080.wkap.nl (id080.wkap.nl [195.169.64.28]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07856 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:28:28 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #45008) id <01JPUXTHBJBK9UM2MJ@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 26 May 2000 14:30:16 +0200 Received: from PC998.wkap.nl ([194.171.67.170]) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #43155) with SMTP id <01JPUXTGIKBS9AQNTU@wkap.nl>; Fri, 26 May 2000 14:30:16 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 14:32:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Taco Hoekwater <taco.hoekwater@wkap.nl> Subject: Re: pdflatex & PSfrag ? In-reply-to: <14638.18283.720412.943670@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: Quy@linuxbe.org, oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de, pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <14638.28402.697904.809334@PC998.wkap.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20000525105945.A6244@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> <3.0.1.16.20000525192340.09f73816@localhost> <20000526085303.C10549@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> <14638.18283.720412.943670@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rahtz writes: Sebastian> Quy writes: >> I hope 'PSFrag' will support pdftex soon :-) so one can use >> somethings like : \usepackage[pdftex]{psfrag} :-) >> Sebastian> you can hope, but I dont believe anyone is working on Sebastian> it It's a lot of work to do a PS interpreter. I have considered doing only the part that is needed for PStricks (never thought about PSfrag), but then that would mean that after every extension to frag/tricks the stuff would have to be updated. I'd rather not get involved in stuff that needs maintenance in the future. And writing a full-blown PS interpreter is just really too much. So, the idea never got out of the starting blocks. And since then I started using metapost and have not given the matter any serious thought anymore. Greetings, Taco 26-May-2000 13:44:26-GMT,1766;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08528 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:44:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA06534 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 04:40:03 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA06531 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 04:40:01 -0400 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12vGf3-0003pN-00; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:44:09 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 12vGf4-0003GB-00; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:44:10 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14638.18283.720412.943670@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:44:11 +0100 (BST) To: Quy@linuxbe.org Cc: oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdflatex & PSfrag ? In-Reply-To: <20000526085303.C10549@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> References: <20000525105945.A6244@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> <3.0.1.16.20000525192340.09f73816@localhost> <20000526085303.C10549@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Quy writes: > I hope 'PSFrag' will support pdftex soon :-) so > one can use somethings like : > \usepackage[pdftex]{psfrag} :-) > you can hope, but I dont believe anyone is working on it Sebastian 26-May-2000 13:54:33-GMT,2746;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08769 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 07:54:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08075 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:23:10 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08072 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:23:04 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats (toucan.stats [163.1.20.20]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA00837; Fri, 26 May 2000 14:09:37 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200005261309.OAA00837@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 14:09:37 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian Ripley <ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk> Reply-To: Prof Brian Ripley <ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk> Subject: Re: pdfTeX warning To: pdftex@tug.org, romanski@iinte.edu.pl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: Krvrr8BnX2Ko3g8dzIyp3g== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >From: "Stanislaw Romanski" <romanski@iinte.edu.pl> >To: <pdftex@tug.org> >Subject: pdfTeX warning >Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:32:14 +0200 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 > >Hello ! > >The warnings of type: > ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{xxxxxxxx} has been referenced > but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one >appear when referrencing to other files, but the PDF produced seems to be >OK.. > >Is this: >a/ the same bug as in 14e, already mentioned on this list >b/ something new (?) >c/ the bug was fixed and I have something bad in my files :-( > >I am using > pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-pretest-20000510 (Web2c 7.3.1x) >Fabrice's Windows compilation. On my files it usually is correct, that is there is a link to a non-existent name. Are you saying that the warning appears but the link is made correctly? If so, are you sure you are looking at the right link? I don't see how we can help you decide if the warning is correct or not. (Although many times I have thought it might be incorrect, only on a few pretest versions of pdftex that failed to make any links was I right.) As ever, a bug report is much easier to deal with if it comes with an example. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 26-May-2000 14:26:33-GMT,2617;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09511 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:26:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08244 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:11:00 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08241 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:10:58 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.4]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAB524C; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:14:35 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000526161146.00b5f370@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:11:46 +0200 To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Combine_two_pdf=B4s_[OFF_TOPIC]?= Cc: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <392E4754.BD45BCFA@forprint.se> References: <3.0.6.32.20000522182423.016eca90@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000523093244.0083bcc0@pop.wxs.nl> <392BD45C.AB9DE1F4@forprint.se> <14635.61524.548729.997386@ampato.core.aeccom.com> <3.0.6.32.20000525151326.00805d20@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000525195137.0184ddc0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id JAA08242 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:43 AM 5/26/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: >Thanks a lot.. that did it. >Now I have to figure out how to maintain the original size of the two pdf > .... this is more something to discuss on the context list since it is unrelated to pdftex. In the quick hack you should add: \setuppapersize [letter] \setuplayout [backspace=0pt,topspace=0pt, width=fit,height=fit, header=0pt,footer=0pt] or whatever you want. I guess these commands are self explaning enough. (i added --background=<graphic> to texexec; will be available in next update of context) >And ahh there are a lot of config files and it´s really hard to figure out which Well, context is a lot of code -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 26-May-2000 20:04:11-GMT,1651;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18845 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 26 May 2000 14:04:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09982 for pdftex-list; Fri, 26 May 2000 14:52:44 -0400 Received: from alisier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09979 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 26 May 2000 14:52:41 -0400 Received: from villosa.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.122) by alisier.wanadoo.fr; 26 May 2000 21:56:49 +0200 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (213.56.250.239) by villosa.wanadoo.fr; 26 May 2000 21:56:50 +0200 To: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Cc: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org>, pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: pdflatex & PSfrag ? References: <3.0.1.16.20000525192340.09f73816@localhost> <20000525105945.A6244@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> <3.0.1.16.20000525192340.09f73816@localhost> <3.0.1.16.20000526090435.0ba784b0@localhost> From: Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau@supelec.fr> Date: 26 May 2000 21:54:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: Heiko Oberdiek's message of "Fri, 26 May 2000 09:04:35 +0200" Message-ID: <n1ldqe8s.fsf@supelec.fr> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) XEmacs/21.2 (Melpomene) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk If all you need is a postscript interpreter, you could use gs and \write18 to call it. But I suspect that it is not that simple and that things get interlaced between TeX processing and PS stuff. -- Fabrice 27-May-2000 15:03:01-GMT,1559;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11031 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:02:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11924 for pdftex-list; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:40:07 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11921 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 27 May 2000 09:40:05 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10339 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 27 May 2000 16:44:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13828 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 27 May 2000 16:44:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Message-Id: <200005271444.QAA13828@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: reprinting figures To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:44:17 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I would like to put some figures into a document. The figures were scanned from some papers at 600dpi as grayscale images (tif), using HP scandesk II. But the results look so poor on a laser printer (HP 4050, either 600 or 1200 dpi). Can anyone please recommend a reasonable way to do that? Thanh 27-May-2000 20:45:31-GMT,1996;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17267 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 27 May 2000 14:45:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12554 for pdftex-list; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:35:41 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12551 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:35:39 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.147.207]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA3306; Sat, 27 May 2000 22:39:30 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000527223552.0154d660@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 22:35:52 +0200 To: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: reprinting figures Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) In-Reply-To: <200005271444.QAA13828@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 04:44 PM 5/27/2000 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: >I would like to put some figures into a document. The figures were scanned >from some papers at 600dpi as grayscale images (tif), using HP scandesk II. >But the results look so poor on a laser printer (HP 4050, either 600 or >1200 dpi). Can anyone please recommend a reasonable way to do that? Just put one somewhere so that I can print them here to see what happens. [Many of those hp's print pretty ugly due to wrong settings btw] Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 28-May-2000 10:08:01-GMT,3646;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01854 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 28 May 2000 04:08:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA13867 for pdftex-list; Sun, 28 May 2000 05:00:26 -0400 Received: from beta.dynaweb.de (dor@[195.127.242.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA13864 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 28 May 2000 05:00:23 -0400 Received: from servus (p3E9B8DD5.dip.t-dialin.net [62.155.141.213]) by beta.dynaweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA12247 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 28 May 2000 12:04:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002001bfc88c$15052aa0$78e2fea9@servus> From: "Ulrich Dirr" <ud@art-satz.de> To: "pdfTeX" <pdftex@tug.org> References: <200005271444.QAA13828@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: reprinting figures Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 12:04:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I don't know what's exactly looking poor, but here are some general remarks. first, if the picture is grayscale it's sufficient to scan it with 300dpi (that't even enough for offset printing!), the rest is just garbage and produces higher printing times. For a grayscale picture to look fair it needs 64 levels of gray (for good results you need 256, but I don't know any laser printer with this feature). If you want to print it with a 120 lpi screen frequency you need a printer resolution of 120 x 8 dpi (64 levels of gray = 8 x 8 pixels) = 960 dpi. You can calculate your scanning resolution by multiplying your screen frequency by \sqrt{2}, e.g. 120 lpi x 1.4 = 168 dpi Therefore if you print on film with 2540 dpi/150 lpi you have about 16 pixels, and that means 16 x 16 = 256 possible levels of gray. Assuming you have a laser printer with true 1200 dpi, then you can calculate the possible levels of gray: levels of gray = (printer resolution / screen frequency)^2 Second, most scanned images need some work so that they look better. In PhotoShop you have several possibilities (and with GIMP I suppose). Sometimes you can do this with your scanner software, mostly sharpening or smoothing. Also you have to compensate for the dot gain (the black pixels are getting bigger on different kind of paper). On laser printers grayscale pictures mostly look too dark. PhotoShop have a option called "Auto Levels" which is quiet helpful: it fills up the spectrum between black and white in a reasonable manner. But you can do this by hand, too. But you have to remember that only beginning with 100 lpi up pixels don't disturb your view. And finally, if your picture is b&w your scanning resolution is the same as your printing resolution. Ulrich -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email mailto:ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 4:44 PM Subject: reprinting figures > Hi all, > > I would like to put some figures into a document. The figures were scanned > from some papers at 600dpi as grayscale images (tif), using HP scandesk II. > But the results look so poor on a laser printer (HP 4050, either 600 or > 1200 dpi). Can anyone please recommend a reasonable way to do that? > > Thanh > 28-May-2000 12:19:33-GMT,35109;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03984 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 28 May 2000 06:19:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14203 for pdftex-list; Sun, 28 May 2000 07:12:47 -0400 Received: from pop01.chello.be (phoenix.chello.be [195.162.196.23]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14200 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 28 May 2000 07:12:45 -0400 Received: from spike ([213.132.135.66]) by pop01.chello.be (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license f891beffebad5da1b2ebd034a97f2710) with SMTP id <20000528121723.GBWN17444.pop01@spike> for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 28 May 2000 14:17:23 +0200 Message-ID: <004301bfc89e$03ba6b40$428784d5@upc.chello.be> From: "Christophe De Baene" <chdbaene@vub.ac.be> To: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Problem with importing graphics Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 14:12:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01BFC8AE.C7327260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BFC8AE.C7327260 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0040_01BFC8AE.C7327260" ------=_NextPart_001_0040_01BFC8AE.C7327260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have the following simple code: \documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{report} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} \includegraphics{ThirdPersonPOV.png} \end{document} I have included the original png-file and the resulting pdf file. And = the=20 problem is, that the quality of the picture in the resulting pdf-file is = not so good :(. (You see also the difference when you print it) I have also other pictures (like photographs) which give the same result (so I cannot convert everything to a vector-based image). Could somebody tell me, what the problem is and how I can fix it? please I Use MikTeX 1.20e and pdflatex. thank you very much, Christophe ------=_NextPart_001_0040_01BFC8AE.C7327260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello,<BR><BR>I have the following = simple=20 code:<BR><BR>\documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{report}<BR>\usepackage[pdftex]{= graphicx}<BR><BR>\begin{document}<BR>\includegraphics{ThirdPersonPOV.png}= <BR>\end{document}<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have included the original png-file = and the=20 resulting pdf file. And the </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>problem is, that the quality of the = picture in the=20 resulting pdf-file is not</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so good :(. (You see  also the = difference when=20 you print it)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have also other pictures (like = photographs) which=20 give the same</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>result (so I cannot convert everything = to a=20 vector-based image).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Could somebody tell me, what the = problem is and how=20 I can fix it? please</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I Use MikTeX 1.20e and = pdflatex.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thank you very=20 much,<BR>Christophe<BR></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_0040_01BFC8AE.C7327260-- ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BFC8AE.C7327260 Content-Type: application/pdf; name="test.pdf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="test.pdf" 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(IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07950 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 28 May 2000 10:09:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14608 for pdftex-list; Sun, 28 May 2000 10:58:41 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14605 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 28 May 2000 10:58:38 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17348 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 28 May 2000 18:02:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21018 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 28 May 2000 18:02:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Message-Id: <200005281602.SAA21018@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: reprinting figures To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 18:02:55 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, thank you for enlightening me a lot. I took a look into gimp manual and understood a little bit more about prepress technology. > first, if the picture is grayscale it's sufficient to scan it with 300dpi > (that't even enough for offset printing!), the rest is just garbage and > produces higher printing times. so that makes no sense to scan a grayscale image at 600dpi as I did at all? The problem of poor quality then seems to be something else. > For a grayscale picture to look fair it needs 64 levels of gray (for good > results you need 256, but I don't know any laser printer with this feature). > If you want to print it with a 120 lpi screen frequency you need a printer > resolution of 120 x 8 dpi (64 levels of gray = 8 x 8 pixels) = 960 dpi. > > You can calculate your scanning resolution by multiplying your screen > frequency by \sqrt{2}, e.g. 120 lpi x 1.4 = 168 dpi > > Therefore if you print on film with 2540 dpi/150 lpi you have about 16 > pixels, and that means 16 x 16 = 256 possible levels of gray. > > Assuming you have a laser printer with true 1200 dpi, then you can calculate > the possible levels of gray: > levels of gray = (printer resolution / screen frequency)^2 However, I still don't know how to find out the number of gray levels or the "best" lpi for a printer. I had a look into the specification of the printer I used (HP 4050N), but there is no mention about such things. > Second, most scanned images need some work so that they look better. In > PhotoShop you have several possibilities (and with GIMP I suppose). > Sometimes you can do this with your scanner software, mostly sharpening or > smoothing. Also you have to compensate for the dot gain (the black pixels > are getting bigger on different kind of paper). On laser printers grayscale > pictures mostly look too dark. PhotoShop have a option called "Auto Levels" > which is quiet helpful: it fills up the spectrum between black and white in > a reasonable manner. But you can do this by hand, too. the HP deskscan software has a button called "automatical exposure" which does a similar job. I used this button during scanning. > But you have to remember that only beginning with 100 lpi up pixels don't > disturb your view. > > And finally, if your picture is b&w your scanning resolution is the same as > your printing resolution. I wonder whether the grayscale images need some processing before printing so as to look good, i.e.~by applying a halftone filter. Regards, Thanh 28-May-2000 18:45:07-GMT,2135;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10701 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 28 May 2000 12:45:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14877 for pdftex-list; Sun, 28 May 2000 13:38:57 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14874 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 28 May 2000 13:38:55 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12w81o-0000Q0-00; Sun, 28 May 2000 19:43:12 +0100 Received: from max15.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.15] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12w81n-0006tb-00; Sun, 28 May 2000 19:43:11 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14641.16534.347290.628591@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 16:51:50 +0100 (BST) To: chdbaene@vub.ac.be Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with importing graphics In-Reply-To: <004301bfc89e$03ba6b40$428784d5@upc.chello.be> References: <004301bfc89e$03ba6b40$428784d5@upc.chello.be> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Christophe De Baene writes: > I have included the original png-file and the resulting pdf file. in general, please don't attach pictures. put them on a web site where interested people can download them > problem is, that the quality of the picture in the resulting pdf-file is not > so good :(. unless you describe the problem more precisely, what can one say? the PDF file you send seems to have incorporated the PNG file correctly, so far as I can see. Admittedly, the PNG file is not very nice, it looks as if it has been converted from a vector format with some sort of anti-aliasing turned on. If so, turn the aliasing off. Sebastian 29-May-2000 1:58:46-GMT,2127;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18461 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 28 May 2000 19:58:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15483 for pdftex-list; Sun, 28 May 2000 20:47:50 -0400 Received: from shao ([203.63.219.44]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15479 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 28 May 2000 20:47:44 -0400 Received: from shao by shao with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12wEjk-000885-00; Mon, 29 May 2000 11:53:00 +1000 Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 11:53:00 +1000 From: Shao Zhang <shao@cia.com.au> To: Pdftex Mailing List <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Slides in PDF Message-ID: <20000529115300.A31224@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Please excuse me if this is somehow Off Topic. I find it is very hard to make slides in Latex, espeacilly with all those fancy graphics. So normally, I do it in StarOffice, and then print it out to PostScript format. Now, I would really like to display this slide show by using the Acrobat Reader. However, when using gv or ghostview, it is displayed as landscape which is what I want, but in Acrobat Reader, no matter what I do, it is always displayed as portraite. Thanks for any help in advance. Shao. PS. if you know any other good programs to make/generate slides in pdf format under unix/linux, please let me know. thx. -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _____ Department of Communications / __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: shao@cia.com.au |___/ _____________________________________________________________________________ 29-May-2000 7:27:46-GMT,2086;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA25055 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 29 May 2000 01:27:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA16445 for pdftex-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 02:08:47 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16442 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 29 May 2000 02:08:43 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A6C5DA010272; Mon, 29 May 2000 09:05:41 +0200 Message-ID: <393228CB.AF374E94@forprint.se> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:22:36 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= [OFF TOPIC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen wrote: > At 10:43 AM 5/26/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: > > >Thanks a lot.. that did it. > >Now I have to figure out how to maintain the original size of the two pdf > > .... > > this is more something to discuss on the context list since it is unrelated > to pdftex. In the quick hack you should add: Where can I find the context m-list? > > \setuppapersize > [letter] > > \setuplayout > [backspace=0pt,topspace=0pt, > width=fit,height=fit, > header=0pt,footer=0pt] > I tried this one before, but the pdf page is still in A4 format and it doesn´t crop down the page even if I set "width=10pt,height=10pt". But I hope that "Context an excursion" can enlighten me of what to do. > > or whatever you want. I guess these commands are self explaning enough. > > (i added --background=<graphic> to texexec; will be available in next > update of context) > Great.. Is that gonna be announced on this list? Thanks. /Anders 29-May-2000 8:54:36-GMT,3416;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26606 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 29 May 2000 02:54:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA16686 for pdftex-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 03:40:21 -0400 Received: from beta.dynaweb.de (dor@[195.127.242.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16683 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 29 May 2000 03:40:18 -0400 Received: from servus (p3E9B8DDA.dip.t-dialin.net [62.155.141.218]) by beta.dynaweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA28692; Mon, 29 May 2000 10:44:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <002d01bfc94a$12616980$78e2fea9@servus> From: "Ulrich Dirr" <ud@art-satz.de> To: "pdfTeX" <pdftex@tug.org> Cc: "Han The Thanh" <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> References: <200005281602.SAA21018@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: reprinting figures Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 10:44:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > so that makes no sense to scan a grayscale image at 600dpi as I did at all? > The problem of poor quality then seems to be something else. Yes. It's data garbage. > However, I still don't know how to find out the number of gray levels or > the "best" lpi for a printer. I had a look into the specification of the > printer I used (HP 4050N), but there is no mention about such things. Maybe there're technical specifications at HP, you should ask them. My Lexmark Optra comes with 1200 dpi max resolution and 64 levels of gray and default 106 lpi. It's best to print a test image were there's a gradient between 0 and 100 percent. You should vary the frequency, if the gradient isn't smooth. I prefer settings of 120 lpi for 1200 dpi, and 85 lpi for 600 dpi. I think there's also some option for the HP printers for resolution enhancement allowing them to print like a typesetter. But you should look for some option of the printer driver for enhancement of printing quality for pictures. > the HP deskscan software has a button called "automatical exposure" which does > a similar job. I used this button during scanning. I don't know what this is doing. Normally it's if the image is too dark overall (underexposed) or too light (overexposed) or the shadows have lost their detail. > I wonder whether the grayscale images need some processing before printing > so as to look good, i.e.~by applying a halftone filter. Yes, that's the point of my second point... look for something like "Levels", "Auto Levels", "Gradation curves" where you can improve/manipulate your pictures. In general this is a kind of work which is not easy to explain in some emails! Probably you should look for some special books on the theme. I know some good, but these are written in german, the best english written book I'm aware of is about PhotoShop and not for the beginner (Dayton/Davis:The PhotoShop 5/5.5 Wow! Book) and probably without much useful information on your problem. Sorry. Ulrich -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email mailto:ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) 29-May-2000 11:09:39-GMT,2850;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28933 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 29 May 2000 05:09:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA17155 for pdftex-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 05:49:36 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA17152 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 29 May 2000 05:49:33 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.177]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAC3F53; Mon, 29 May 2000 12:53:52 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000529092546.00ae3900@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:25:46 +0200 To: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: reprinting figures Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) In-Reply-To: <200005281602.SAA21018@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 06:02 PM 5/28/2000 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: >so that makes no sense to scan a grayscale image at 600dpi as I did at all? It makes sense if you want to downscale or manipulate. >However, I still don't know how to find out the number of gray levels or >the "best" lpi for a printer. I had a look into the specification of the >printer I used (HP 4050N), but there is no mention about such things. What is the real resolution of that printer. I recently was printing on an supposedly 1200 dpi hp, but the images looked like those old times 300 dpi prints. If helps if you set the noflines higher, say 120-150. Many of those printers (given small tober particles) can handle it. You can often send a preamble doing it. >the HP deskscan software has a button called "automatical exposure" which does >a similar job. I used this button during scanning. Also, downscaling can best be handled by the scanning device/software, so just scan 150dpi if that is your target resolution [we often use 150dpi]. >I wonder whether the grayscale images need some processing before printing >so as to look good, i.e.~by applying a halftone filter. Ah, what is the image? An already rasterized picture? If so, scan at 600dpi and 'despecle' (or alike). Get rid of the lines so to say, otherwise you get interference and moire's. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-2000 11:16:59-GMT,1997;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA29077 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 29 May 2000 05:16:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA17200 for pdftex-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 06:03:10 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17197 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 29 May 2000 06:03:06 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id ADB543AA0260; Mon, 29 May 2000 13:00:05 +0200 Message-ID: <39325FBC.56F2A0BF@forprint.se> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:17:01 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= [OFF TOPIC] References: <393228CB.AF374E94@forprint.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Anders Alstrin wrote: > Hans Hagen wrote: > > > At 10:43 AM 5/26/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: > > > > >Thanks a lot.. that did it. > > >Now I have to figure out how to maintain the original size of the two > pdf > > > .... > > > > this is more something to discuss on the context list since it is > unrelated > > to pdftex. In the quick hack you should add: > > Where can I find the context m-list? > I found the answer in one of the manuals at pragma. \definepapersize[visit][width=8.5cm,height=5.4cm] \setuppapersize[visit][visit] \setuplayout [backspace=0pt,topspace=0pt, width=fit,height=fit, header=0pt,footer=0pt] This is a great day for me. ; ) Now I just have to program php to execute this proper, but thats the easy part. A very big thanks for being so gentle on a newbie in this area. /Anders.. 29-May-2000 11:33:38-GMT,1313;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA29405 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 29 May 2000 05:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA17297 for pdftex-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 06:21:15 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17294 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 29 May 2000 06:21:12 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A1F245540260; Mon, 29 May 2000 13:18:10 +0200 Message-ID: <393263FA.8425BDEB@forprint.se> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:35:06 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: PDF version 1.2 insted of 1.3? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Is their a way to control the version number of the pdf. We got this rip from alfa that can handle pdf-1.2 but not pdf-1.3 yet. I was wondering if you can control this in some way with PDFtex? /Anders 29-May-2000 14:01:22-GMT,2438;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02294 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 29 May 2000 08:01:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17885 for pdftex-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 08:48:02 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17882 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 29 May 2000 08:48:01 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.141.44]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA50FF; Mon, 29 May 2000 15:51:38 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000529132421.015cc210@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:24:21 +0200 To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Combine_two_pdf=B4s_[OFF_TOPIC]?= Cc: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <393228CB.AF374E94@forprint.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id IAA17883 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:22 AM 5/29/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: >Where can I find the context m-list? ntg-context@ntg.nl at http://www.let.uu.nl/ci-bin/majordomo.pl >I tried this one before, but the pdf page is still in A4 format and it >doesn´t In this case, if you are on letter, you could change the papersize: \setuppapersize[letter][letter] [some other methods will pick up the size themselves] >crop down the page even if I set "width=10pt,height=10pt". >But I hope that "Context an excursion" can enlighten me of what to do. or the some 15 already translated chapters of the ref manual or the texexec manual. >> (i added --background=<graphic> to texexec; will be available in next >> update of context) >> > >Great.. Is that gonna be announced on this list? I'll probably forget -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-2000 15:44:55-GMT,2253;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04204 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 29 May 2000 09:44:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18386 for pdftex-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 10:31:09 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18383 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 29 May 2000 10:31:08 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.141.143]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA1BC2; Mon, 29 May 2000 17:34:56 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000529172906.0164a850@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 17:29:06 +0200 To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Combine_two_pdf=B4s_[OFF_TOPIC]?= Cc: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <39325FBC.56F2A0BF@forprint.se> References: <393228CB.AF374E94@forprint.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 01:17 PM 5/29/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: >I found the answer in one of the manuals at pragma. >\definepapersize[visit][width=8.5cm,height=5.4cm] >\setuppapersize[visit][visit] > \setuplayout >[backspace=0pt,topspace=0pt, >width=fit,height=fit, >header=0pt,footer=0pt] > >This is a great day for me. ; ) BTW, with a bit of close reading, you can now pur graphics anywhere on the page. Also, you can do a prerun on a figure (pdf) and use the dimensions to dynamically set the papersize. Actually, that's what happens in the some 5 low level postprocessing pages. One can do real dirty tricks by using page layers, which is what I used for annotated presentations. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 29-May-2000 16:07:40-GMT,2639;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04653 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 29 May 2000 10:07:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18565 for pdftex-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 10:50:29 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18562 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 29 May 2000 10:50:27 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A10E4D530260; Mon, 29 May 2000 17:47:26 +0200 Message-ID: <3932A316.AEE84F64@forprint.se> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 18:04:23 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= [OFF TOPIC] References: <393228CB.AF374E94@forprint.se> <3.0.6.32.20000529172906.0164a850@pop.wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen wrote: > At 01:17 PM 5/29/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: > > >I found the answer in one of the manuals at pragma. > >\definepapersize[visit][width=8.5cm,height=5.4cm] > >\setuppapersize[visit][visit] > > \setuplayout > >[backspace=0pt,topspace=0pt, > >width=fit,height=fit, > >header=0pt,footer=0pt] > > > >This is a great day for me. ; ) > > BTW, with a bit of close reading, you can now pur graphics anywhere on the > page. Also, you can do a prerun on a figure (pdf) and use the dimensions to > dynamically set the papersize. Actually, that's what happens in the some 5 > low level postprocessing pages. One can do real dirty tricks by using page > layers, which is what I used for annotated presentations. Ahh.. I´m starting to grasp the concept now and this is a very very powerfull tool. I got one thing that I haven´t figure out yet and it´s really off-topic so I don´t expect an answer. When I try to exec texexec from a web-browser I get: TeXExec 1.9 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2000 locating ini file : kpsewhich not found in path locating ini file : not found by searching locating ini file : no environment variable set locating ini file : not found in own path warning : texexec.ini not found, did you read 'texexec.rme'? But this is really a thing of permissions and I just have to figure out a workaround without doing my system totally insecure.. Thanks for everything.. Anders 29-May-2000 22:12:49-GMT,2233;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11590 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 29 May 2000 16:12:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19622 for pdftex-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 17:03:57 -0400 Received: from aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be [139.165.32.133]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19619 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 29 May 2000 17:03:51 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:root@cs228.gw.ulg.ac.be [139.165.30.68]) by aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA69540; Tue, 30 May 2000 00:08:10 +0200 Received: (from quy@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3/NDQ) id WAA01382; Sun, 28 May 2000 22:21:33 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 22:21:33 +0200 From: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> To: Christophe De Baene <chdbaene@vub.ac.be> Cc: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Problem with importing graphics Message-ID: <20000528222133.A1368@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> References: <004301bfc89e$03ba6b40$428784d5@upc.chello.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <004301bfc89e$03ba6b40$428784d5@upc.chello.be>; from chdbaene@vub.ac.be on Sun, May 28, 2000 at 02:12:38PM +0200 Organization: LTAS-ULG X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.12 RedHat-6.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 02:12:38PM +0200, Christophe De Baene wrote: > Hello, > > I have included the original png-file and the resulting pdf file. And the > problem is, that the quality of the picture in the resulting pdf-file is not > so good :(. (You see also the difference when you print it) > I have also other pictures (like photographs) which give the same > result (so I cannot convert everything to a vector-based image). > Could somebody tell me, what the problem is and how I can fix it? please I think attach somethings in the list is not good idea at all. You can post your question and if there is someone can help you you can send to him directly via personal address. It's better for the list, isn't it ? -- Nguyen-Dai Quy 29-May-2000 22:20:47-GMT,3394;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11742 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 29 May 2000 16:20:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19659 for pdftex-list; Mon, 29 May 2000 17:13:27 -0400 Received: from uakron.edu (uakron.edu [130.101.5.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19656 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 29 May 2000 17:13:26 -0400 Received: from default (michigan19-71.infoserv.uakron.edu [130.101.2.71]) by uakron.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA18954; Mon, 29 May 2000 18:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200005292217.SAA18954@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" <story@uakron.edu> Organization: The University of Akron To: Shao Zhang <shao@cia.com.au>, Pdftex Mailing List <pdftex@tug.org> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 18:13:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Slides in PDF Reply-to: story@uakron.edu In-reply-to: <20000529115300.A31224@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk <color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>On 29 May 00, at 11:53, Shao Zhang wrote: <color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> Hi, > Please excuse me if this is somehow Off Topic. > > I find it is very hard to make slides in Latex, espeacilly with > all those fancy graphics. So normally, I do it in StarOffice, > and then print it out to PostScript format. > > Now, I would really like to display this slide show by using the Acrobat Reader. > However, when using gv or ghostview, it is displayed as > landscape which is what I want, but in Acrobat Reader, no matter > what I do, it is always displayed as portraite. > > Thanks for any help in advance. </color>A listing for presentation slide packages for LaTeX can be found at <underline><color><param>0000,8000,0000</param>http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/pdf_demos.html </underline></color>(Note: The web site has been down all weekend, I would anticipate the server being up again sometime tomorrow, tuesday.) dps <color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param> > Shao. > > > PS. if you know any other good programs to make/generate slides in pdf format > under unix/linux, please let me know. thx. > > -- > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _____ > Department of Communications / __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ > University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | > Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | > Email: shao@cia.com.au |___/ > _____________________________________________________________________________ > <nofill> Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. 30-May-2000 8:14:38-GMT,2239;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23227 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 30 May 2000 02:14:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20906 for pdftex-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 02:43:55 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA20903 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 30 May 2000 02:43:52 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.141.5]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAI32F7; Tue, 30 May 2000 09:47:44 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000530093928.01a2ab10@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:39:28 +0200 To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Combine_two_pdf=B4s_[OFF_TOPIC]?= Cc: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <3932A316.AEE84F64@forprint.se> References: <393228CB.AF374E94@forprint.se> <3.0.6.32.20000529172906.0164a850@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 06:04 PM 5/29/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: >TeXExec 1.9 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2000 >locating ini file : kpsewhich not found in path >locating ini file : not found by searching >locating ini file : no environment variable set >locating ini file : not found in own path >warning : texexec.ini not found, did you read 'texexec.rme'? That's an old version. Try 2.1 which is a bit more clever (it does run from a webserver here, but you have to set the paths in the cgi script). >a workaround without doing my system totally insecure.. Ah, let me know how you do that (off list), since I need it too. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 30-May-2000 9:02:56-GMT,4348;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24053 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:02:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA21048 for pdftex-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:49:08 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA21045 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:49:06 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AFCFC3770270; Tue, 30 May 2000 10:46:07 +0200 Message-ID: <393391D8.EA59F76C@forprint.se> Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:03:05 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= [OFF TOPIC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > >TeXExec 1.9 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2000 > That's an old version. Try 2.1 which is a bit more clever (it does run from > a webserver here, but you have to set the paths in the cgi script). Hmm.. where can I find that? Sorry. the link to the context m-list was down so I could´nt subscribe to that list. : ( ahh. I´m not using a cgi script. I´m using php but is fiddling with a bash script right now. I figured out I needed to have a local copy of texexec.ini in the same dir as the script was executed. But now I got diffrent Error kodes. OS Error Code 1 My god they killed kenny! TeXExec 1.9 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2000 locating ini file : kpsewhich not found in path locating ini file : found by searching reading : ./texexec.ini setting : 'TeXShell' to 'tetex' for 'all' setting : 'UsedInterfaces' to 'en,nl,de,uk' for 'all' setting : 'UserInterface' to 'en' for 'all' setting : 'TeXExecutable' to 'tex' for 'all' setting : 'MpExecutable' to 'mpost' for 'all' setting : 'MpToTeXExecutable' to 'mpto' for 'all' setting : 'DviToMpExecutable' to 'dvitomp' for 'all' setting : 'DviSpecialScript' to 'dvispec' for 'all' setting : 'UsedInterfaces' to 'en,nl,de,uk' for 'tetex' setting : 'UserInterface' to 'en' for 'tetex' setting : 'TeXExecutable' to 'pdfetex' for 'tetex' used setting : TeXShell = tetex used setting : SetupPath = used setting : UserInterface = en used setting : UsedInterfaces = en,nl,de,uk used setting : TeXFontsPath = . used setting : MpExecutable = mpost used setting : MpToTeXExecutable = mpto used setting : DviToMpExecutable = dvitomp used setting : TeXProgramPath = used setting : TeXFormatPath = used setting : ConTeXtPath = used setting : TeXScriptsPath = used setting : TeXExecutable = pdfetex used setting : TeXVirginFlag = -ini used setting : TeXPassString = used setting : TeXFormatFlag = used setting : FmtLanguage = used setting : FmtBodyFont = used setting : TcXPath = locating fmtutil : not found in path executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : test3 output : standard interface : en options : verbose once current mode : all outputfile : visit1 pdfetex -progname=context \&cont-en test3 run time : 0 seconds renaming : test3 to visit1 This is how I exec the shell script and the shell script. PHP --------------------------------------------- $command = "./tex.sh"; exec($command, $results, $errorCode); if ($errorCode){ echo "OS Error Code $errorCode<BR>\n"; echo "My god they killed kenny!<BR>\n"; while (list(,$line) = each($results)){ echo $line, "<BR>\n"; } exit; } //Comment these three out once it works. while (list(,$line) = each($results)){ echo $line, "<BR>\n"; } sh------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/teTeX/bin/i686-pc.linux-gnu/texexec --verbose --result=visit1 test3 --once ---------------------------------------------------------- What I think I have to write is a shell wrapper that's suid (or sudo or whatever it is) that can be run´d by 'nobody' and just 'nobody' not 'everybody'.. But I never have done this before. : ( > >a workaround without doing my system totally insecure.. > > Ah, let me know how you do that (off list), since I need it too. Shure. :) 30-May-2000 9:22:32-GMT,1683;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24396 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA21151 for pdftex-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 04:08:45 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21147 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 30 May 2000 04:08:41 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28498; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:12:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09929; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:12:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Message-Id: <200005300912.LAA09929@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: pdftex-0.14f released To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:12:54 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: tom@kiffe.com (Tom Kiffe), cs@miktex.de (Christian Schenk) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, pdftex-0.14f was released. No changes from the previous pretest, apart that the banner was changed to "released" instead of "pretest". Sebastian asked for this change as so it looks nicer in cd texlive5. The location is as usually: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/ http://iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be/~thanh/download/pdftex ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/tex/pdftex/ Regards, Thanh 30-May-2000 11:57:15-GMT,2468;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27175 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 30 May 2000 05:57:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA21858 for pdftex-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 06:39:24 -0400 Received: from host.iinte.edu.pl (host.iinte.edu.pl [157.25.178.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21855 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 30 May 2000 06:39:21 -0400 Received: from Stas98 ([157.25.180.229]) by host.iinte.edu.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA22956 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 30 May 2000 16:34:56 +0200 Message-ID: <004401bfca2c$ba07ac20$e5b4199d@Stas98.iinte.edu.pl> From: "Stanislaw Romanski" <romanski@iinte.edu.pl> To: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Odp: pdfTeX warning Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:46:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>The warnings of type: >> ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{xxxxxxxx} has been referenced >> but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one >>appear when referrencing to other files, but the PDF produced seems to be >>OK.. Prof Brian Ripley answered: >On my files it usually is correct, that is there is a link to a >non-existent name. Are you saying that the warning appears but the >link is made correctly ? Yes. I attach the simplest example showing this effect. Processing of a.tex gives pdfTeX warning (dest): name{target.on.page.3} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one I guess PDF files are OK and the warning is just obsolete. Stanislaw Romanski % ---------------------- CUT HERE -------------- A.TEX ----- % a.tex Begin% \pdfstartlink goto file {b.pdf} name {target.on.page.3}% target.on.page.3% \pdfendlink End \bye % ---------------------- CUT HERE -------------- B.TEX ----- % b.tex \pdfdest name{target.on.page.1} fitbv target.on.page.1 \vfil\eject \pdfdest name{target.on.page.2} fitbv target.on.page.2 \vfil\eject \pdfdest name{target.on.page.3} fitbv target.on.page.3 \vfil\eject \pdfdest name{target.on.page.4} fitbv target.on.page.4 \bye 30-May-2000 12:09:00-GMT,1592;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27402 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 30 May 2000 06:08:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA21907 for pdftex-list; Tue, 30 May 2000 06:49:37 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21904 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 30 May 2000 06:49:35 -0400 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12wkao-0007W3-00; Tue, 30 May 2000 12:53:54 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 12wkan-0006CJ-00; Tue, 30 May 2000 12:53:53 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14643.43989.647740.966432@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:53:57 +0100 (BST) To: anders.alstrin@forprint.se Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Combine two =?iso-8859-1?Q?pdf=B4s?= [OFF TOPIC] In-Reply-To: <393391D8.EA59F76C@forprint.se> References: <393391D8.EA59F76C@forprint.se> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Um, I think this topic is getting away from pdftex. Can you continue it on a Context list, please? Sebastian pdftex list maintainer 31-May-2000 9:10:00-GMT,2577;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28656 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 31 May 2000 03:09:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA24575 for pdftex-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 03:39:23 -0400 Received: from in.espl.com.au ([210.9.158.226]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24572 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 31 May 2000 03:39:17 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by in.espl.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06347 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 31 May 2000 18:43:42 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: in.espl.com.au: mail set sender to <jonog@fs.espl.com.au> using -f Received: from UNKNOWN (192.168.20.2, claiming to be "fs.espl.com.au") by in.espl.com.au with SMTP id smtpddubCQP; Wed, 31 May 2000 08:43:38 /etc/localtime Received: (from jonog@localhost) by fs.espl.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16252 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 31 May 2000 18:43:38 +1000 Message-Id: <200005310843.SAA16252@fs.espl.com.au> Subject: epstopdf, Acrobat Reader and "Invalid ColorSpace" To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 18:43:38 +1000 (EST) From: Jonathan Gowland <jgowland@espl.com.au> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi We're using pdftex to generate various manuals. Some of these manuals include screen dumps, which are stored as TIFF files. To convert these to PDF so we can include them in a manual using \includegraphics, we use tiff2ps followed by epstopdf: <TIFF FILE> -tiff2ps-> <EPS FILE> -epstopdf-> <PDF FILE> If I use Acrobat Reader (version 4.0 on HP-UX, RH Linux 6.1 or Windows) to look at the PDF file derived from the image, it loads and displays fine. However, if I try to view the entire document, then as soon as I go to the first page with one of these images, Acrobat Reader brings up an error dialog saying "Invalid colorspace", and there is just an empty space where the image is supposed to appear on the page. Is there any way to fix this? I would prefer to modify the way we generate the PDF version of each image, rather than having to modify each TIFF file, but the method needs to use command-line tools, not a GUI, since these manuals are generated in a batch process on a regular basis. BTW, is there a better (UNIX/Linux) command-line tool (or sequence of commands) to go from TIFF to PDF? Jonathan Gowland GenaWarehouse Asia Pacific Pty Limited 31-May-2000 10:21:06-GMT,1822;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA00073 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 31 May 2000 04:21:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA25005 for pdftex-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 04:46:40 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.119]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA25002 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 31 May 2000 04:46:34 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13064; Wed, 31 May 2000 15:23:15 +0530 Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:17:36 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: Jonathan Gowland <jgowland@espl.com.au> cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: epstopdf, Acrobat Reader and "Invalid ColorSpace" In-Reply-To: <200005310843.SAA16252@fs.espl.com.au> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005311514090.1830-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 May 2000, Jonathan Gowland wrote: JG> Hi JG> JG> We're using pdftex to generate various manuals. Some of these JG> manuals include screen dumps, which are stored as TIFF files. JG> To convert these to PDF so we can include them in a manual using JG> \includegraphics, we use tiff2ps followed by epstopdf: You can very well use tiff images with \includegraphics command in pdfTeX. The current version supports it, though your question deserves explanation/assistance from well informed persons on the matter. Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 31-May-2000 11:06:16-GMT,1958;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00938 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 31 May 2000 05:06:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA25169 for pdftex-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 05:35:45 -0400 Received: from proxy.detewe.de ([194.115.52.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25166 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 31 May 2000 05:35:42 -0400 Received: from zinse043.detewe.de (unverified) by proxy.detewe.de (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id <Tc332abc81374c83914317@proxy.detewe.de> for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 31 May 2000 12:40:49 +0200 Received: from detewe.de ([172.30.200.43]) by zinse043.detewe.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA61F5 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 31 May 2000 12:39:29 +0200 Message-ID: <3934EBDB.2A43CF12@detewe.de> Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:39:23 +0200 From: "Michael Wiedmann" <michael.wiedmann@detewe.de> Organization: Cordless Technology X-Sender: "Michael Wiedmann" <mwiedman@zinse043.detewe.de> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: epstopdf, Acrobat Reader and "Invalid ColorSpace" References: <200005310843.SAA16252@fs.espl.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan Gowland wrote: [Sorry, I don't have an answer for your main question] > BTW, is there a better (UNIX/Linux) command-line tool (or sequence > of commands) to go from TIFF to PDF? Try "convert" from ImageMagick: http://www.wizards.dupont.com/cristy/ImageMagick.html Use it like: convert image.tiff pdf:image.pdf Regards Michael -- Michael Wiedmann office: <michael.wiedmann@detewe.de> private: <mw@miwie.in-berlin.de> 31-May-2000 12:00:49-GMT,2022;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01905 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 31 May 2000 06:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA25655 for pdftex-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 06:42:40 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25652 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 31 May 2000 06:42:38 -0400 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12x6xl-0001hh-00; Wed, 31 May 2000 12:47:05 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 12x6xl-0006Em-00; Wed, 31 May 2000 12:47:05 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14644.64445.709864.140517@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:47:09 +0100 (BST) To: jgowland@espl.com.au Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: epstopdf, Acrobat Reader and "Invalid ColorSpace" In-Reply-To: <200005310843.SAA16252@fs.espl.com.au> References: <200005310843.SAA16252@fs.espl.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan Gowland writes: > manuals include screen dumps, which are stored as TIFF files. > To convert these to PDF so we can include them in a manual using > \includegraphics, we use tiff2ps followed by epstopdf: um, er, why? pdftex includes tiff files as is. or, more reliably perhaps, tiff converted losslessly to PNG > BTW, is there a better (UNIX/Linux) command-line tool (or sequence > of commands) to go from TIFF to PDF? I'd do convert foo.tif foo.png and let pdftex include the .png file (if it has any problems with the .tif) sebastian 31-May-2000 12:55:39-GMT,4112;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02935 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 31 May 2000 06:55:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA26086 for pdftex-list; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:40:40 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26081 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 31 May 2000 07:40:35 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.215]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA6FB9; Wed, 31 May 2000 14:44:58 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000531144204.008909c0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:42:04 +0200 To: ntg-context@ntg.nl From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: some help needed Cc: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ------------------------------------------------------ Let's help Thanh: http://www.pragma-ade.nl/samples.htm ------------------------------------------------------ Dear Reader, We all know Han The Thanh as the author of pdfTeX. Less known is that some features present in this program are the subject of his thesis. Although it has been discussed in TeX user group meetings and on mailing lists, some of the less known features of pdfTeX concern improving the overall appearance of the page. This is achieved by: - slightly scaling the glyphs horizontally - permitting some characters to stick into the margin Both mechanisms can be tuned at the glyph level, and both mechanisms can be applied to either metafonts, type 1 fonts and multiple master fonts. In his thesis, Han The Thanh will provide a detailed description of the principles behind these optimizations as well as explore the way they should be dealt with. Although choosing the right values and making the right decisions is biased by ones personal favourites, research has demonstrated that when rating the greyness of a page, people tend to agree. There are 8~sets of samples typeset in a 10~point typeface. There are bitmap as well as outline fonts, and both serif and sans serif fonts. - computer modern roman - computer modern sans serif - minion - myriad - palatino - helvetica The 8 files are in PostScript format, since the Acrobat viewers have problems with caching some of the fonts. We would appreciate comments on these samples. You can refer to the sets by their number and font name. We don't want to steer you into a direction, but to give you a cue on what is expected, ask yourself questions like: - which pages within a sample set look best - in what samples is the design of the font violated - what characters stick too prominent into the margin - do you think that these extensions improve the appearance - what set does produce the best results for a given font Especially if you are a happy user of pdfTeX, I think that spending some time on printing, viewing and reflection will nicely compensate the time Han The Thanh has spent on writing this marvellous extension to TeX. When these optimizations are found useful, I'm sure that their application will make it into existing font mechanisms. Han The Thanh has to finish his thesis in about a month, so the sooner you can take a look ... You can reach Han The Thanh at: thanh@informatics.muni.cz. Hans Hagen ------------------------------------------------------ Let's help Thanh: http://www.pragma-ade.nl/samples.htm ------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jun-2000 21:04:10-GMT,1534;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18074 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 15:04:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA31214 for pdftex-list; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 15:43:28 -0400 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA31211 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 15:43:26 -0400 Received: from bar.loria.fr (bar.loria.fr [152.81.2.13]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/JCG-DG) with ESMTP id WAA02138; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:47:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Denis B. Roegel" <Denis.Roegel@loria.fr> Received: (from roegel@localhost) by bar.loria.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3-client/JCG) id WAA01063; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:47:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200006012047.WAA01063@bar.loria.fr> Subject: Re: some help needed To: pragma@wxs.nl (Hans Hagen) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:47:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000531144204.008909c0@pop.wxs.nl> from "Hans Hagen" at May 31, 2000 02:42:04 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk As a further extension to pdftex, I would suggest adding some skyline support. Maybe a source of inspiration could be the TeXmacs system (http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~anh/TeXmacs/TeXmacs.html). Denis Roegel 2-Jun-2000 6:47:09-GMT,1837;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01517 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:47:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA32458 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 01:38:14 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA32455 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 01:38:12 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.147.232]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAG1E09; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:42:52 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000602010537.00b7e590@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 01:05:37 +0200 To: Daniel Roth <roth@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: sets Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.96.1000601161415.5606A-100000@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koel n.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 04:16 PM 6/1/2000 +0200, Daniel Roth wrote: > >Hello Hans, > >I've tried to download the sample sets to help Han The Thanh. >The zip files with the sets 4, 5, and 6 seem to have a bad CRC. >Could you check this? The other files work and print. Ok, I'll re-upload asap (the files are on another machine). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Jun-2000 15:56:17-GMT,1591;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13220 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:56:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01261 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:43:40 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01258 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:43:37 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15085 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:48:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03373 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:27:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Message-Id: <200006021527.RAA03373@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: how to extract certain part of a pdf figure? To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:27:14 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I have a pdf figure and wish to extract certain parts from the picture to other pdf's. Do you know of any tool to do that? I guess converting to EPS and using a graphic program that can import and export EPS would help, but I have no experience in this and so I would like to get some recommendation first. Thanh 2-Jun-2000 20:01:19-GMT,2300;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19602 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:01:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02745 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:51:54 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02742 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:51:52 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 12xxYP-0001v4-00; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:56:25 +0100 Received: from max7.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.7] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12xxYO-0006PF-00; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:56:24 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14648.7472.902458.530027@localhost.localdomain> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:46:40 +0100 (BST) To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: how to extract certain part of a pdf figure? In-Reply-To: <200006021527.RAA03373@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <200006021527.RAA03373@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh writes: > > I have a pdf figure and wish to extract certain parts from the picture to > other pdf's. Do you know of any tool to do that? I guess converting to EPS > and using a graphic program that can import and export EPS would help, but > I have no experience in this and so I would like to get some recommendation > first. > I use full Acrobat 4 under Windows, load the PDF file, crop the page to the area I want, extract that page to a new file, and save it. Whether its the best method, I dont know, but it works. Quite a few pictures of the LaTeX Web Companion were done in that way. Adobe Illustrator might help? If all else fails, and you want to stay in Unix, convert to 600 dpi PNG bitmap using Ghostscript, and edit the resulting file in Gimp. Crude, but effective. Sebastian 2-Jun-2000 20:33:41-GMT,2150;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20535 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:33:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA03046 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:26:15 -0400 Received: from bkupmail.cv.net (bkupmail.cv.net [167.206.112.44]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03043 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:25:41 -0400 Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by bkupmail.cv.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12092 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hunt108-151.optonline.net (hunt108-151.optonline.net [167.206.108.151]) by s1.optonline.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21145 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ats@localhost) by hunt108-151.optonline.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32485; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:30:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rita.springies.com: ats set sender to ats@acm.org using -f To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: how to extract certain part of a pdf figure? References: <200006021527.RAA03373@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mail-Copies-To: nobody From: Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> Date: 02 Jun 2000 16:24:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: Han The Thanh's message of "Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:27:14 +0200 (MET DST)" Message-ID: <m3u2fbal27.fsf@acm.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 13 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> writes: > I have a pdf figure and wish to extract certain parts from the picture to > other pdf's. Do you know of any tool to do that? Corel Draw can do this (it'll load the PDF and let you do whatever). Other than that, all I have used is pdfimages (from the xpdf package), which can pull bitmaps. -- Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> - In a variety of flavors! 161 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes, 56 seconds till we run away. Parts that positively cannot be assembled in improper order will be. 2-Jun-2000 21:56:55-GMT,2407;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22476 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:56:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03595 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:46:25 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03592 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:46:19 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06222; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 23:50:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17570; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 23:50:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Message-Id: <200006022150.XAA17570@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: how to extract certain part of a pdf figure? In-Reply-To: <14648.7472.902458.530027@localhost.localdomain> from Sebastian Rahtz at "Jun 2, 0 09:46:40 pm" To: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 23:50:54 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I use full Acrobat 4 under Windows, load the PDF file, crop the page > to the area I want, extract that page to a new file, and save > it. Whether its the best method, I dont know, but it works. Quite a > few pictures of the LaTeX Web Companion were done in that way. > > Adobe Illustrator might help? > > If all else fails, and you want to stay in Unix, convert to 600 dpi > PNG bitmap using Ghostscript, and edit the resulting file in > Gimp. Crude, but effective. I forgot to mention that the picture consists of many vector drawing, but no bitmap and text. I received a suggestion to use Acrobat to select an area as a block and save it to a file, but the method seems to work with text only. I also tried to crop the needed part and save it to the new file; but Acrobat only changed the CropBox and MediaBox only; the page contents remain unchanged. Anyway it seems to be the fastest way, so I will use it. I don't have Adobe Illustrator so cannot try it. Thanh 2-Jun-2000 23:30:52-GMT,3348;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24648 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:30:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04335 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:23:42 -0400 Received: from kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04332 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:23:40 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA24779; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 01:28:41 +0200 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 01:28:41 +0200 Message-Id: <200006022328.BAA24779@kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: how to extract certain part of a pdf figure? In-Reply-To: <14648.7472.902458.530027@localhost.localdomain> References: <200006021527.RAA03373@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <14648.7472.902458.530027@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> writes: > Han The Thanh writes: >> I have a pdf figure and wish to extract certain parts from the >> picture to other pdf's. Do you know of any tool to do that? I >> guess converting to EPS and using a graphic program that can >> import and export EPS would help, but I have no experience in >> this and so I would like to get some recommendation first. > I use full Acrobat 4 under Windows, load the PDF file, crop the > page to the area I want, extract that page to a new file, and > save it. Whether its the best method, I dont know, but it > works. Quite a few pictures of the LaTeX Web Companion were done > in that way. Hi, recently I've seen someone doing this using the acrobat *reader* under Linux. I don't know how and unfortunately he went to Munich this weekend and I cannot ask him before I get his new email address. Don't know when this happens. Look at the menu entry "Help->Reader Guide" and and then look at the chapter "Copying and pasting text and graphics to another application". It doesn't work for me, I get the message "There was an error while copying to the clipboard. Segmentation Violation Caught.". But as I said, I've seen someone who did it successfully with acroread-4.05 on the same machine. If someone finds out how it works, I'm very interested. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jun-2000 3:44:59-GMT,4447;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29481 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:44:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04880 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 22:37:35 -0400 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (bogo@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04877 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 22:37:31 -0400 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15760; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:42:05 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA18078; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:42:04 +1000 (EST) From: Ross Moore <ross@ics.mq.edu.au> Message-Id: <200006030342.NAA18078@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: how to extract certain part of a pdf figure? In-Reply-To: <200006022328.BAA24779@kammer.uni-hannover.de> from Reinhard Kotucha at "Jun 3, 2000 01:28:41 am" To: Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:42:04 +1000 (EST) CC: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > >>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> writes: > > > Han The Thanh writes: > >> I have a pdf figure and wish to extract certain parts from the > >> picture to other pdf's. Do you know of any tool to do that? I > >> guess converting to EPS and using a graphic program that can > >> import and export EPS would help, but I have no experience in > >> this and so I would like to get some recommendation first. > > Hi, > recently I've seen someone doing this using the acrobat *reader* under > Linux. I don't know how and unfortunately he went to Munich this > weekend and I cannot ask him before I get his new email address. > Don't know when this happens. > > Look at the menu entry "Help->Reader Guide" and and then look at the > chapter "Copying and pasting text and graphics to another application". The documentation says: 4 To view the graphic, choose Window > Show Clipboard. The graphic is copied using the WMF (Windows), PICT (Mac OS), or XPIXMAP (UNIX) format. In UNIX, the graphic is pasted in the primary selection. (The above paragraph was copy/pasted into this message, using exactly the feature described for extracing Text from a PDF. ;-) Thus the PDF nature of the selection is *not* preserved. Instead it is converted to the native graphics format on the platform being used. Using the full Acrobat, this may not be the case; don't know since I don't have it to test. Some advice that may be helpful for Thanh for when constructing vector graphics from which he may wish to extract pieces: Use layering, if at all possible. Programs such as Adobe Illustrator have this feature, and it is *extremely* useful; also grouping of sub-parts. Wendy McKay is a wizard at using these techniques. I watch in awe as she aligns pieces, resizes parts, or applies color, font-changes or stroke-weights to them. Put anything that you think you may wish to extract within a separate layer. Then you can show/hide layers at will, to obtain the views to be extracted. Does the full Acrobat have layering ? (I think so, but cannot easily check it.) > It doesn't work for me, I get the message "There was an error while > copying to the clipboard. Segmentation Violation Caught.". > > But as I said, I've seen someone who did it successfully with > acroread-4.05 on the same machine. Are you sure he was going PDF --> PDF or PDF --> other format ? > If someone finds out how it works, I'm very interested. Hope this helps, Ross Moore > Regards, > Reinhard > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 > Berggartenstr. 9 > D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 3-Jun-2000 11:02:03-GMT,1402;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07464 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 05:02:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA06154 for pdftex-list; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 05:52:30 -0400 Received: from zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE (zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.50.108]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA06151 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 05:52:28 -0400 Received: from localhost (roth@localhost) by zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19850 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:07:46 +0200 (METDST) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:07:46 +0200 (METDST) From: Daniel Roth <roth@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: how to extract certain part of a pdf figure? In-Reply-To: <200006022150.XAA17570@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.1000603130525.19837A-100000@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I received a suggestion to use Acrobat to select an > area as a block and save it to a file, but the method seems to work with > text only. Hi, keeping the text selection icon pressed a small pop up window appears where to change the function to graphic selection. Does this help? - Daniel 3-Jun-2000 13:13:50-GMT,1884;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09693 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 07:13:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06765 for pdftex-list; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:06:55 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06762 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:06:52 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05996; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:11:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA06870; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:11:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Message-Id: <200006031311.PAA06870@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: how to extract certain part of a pdf figure? In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.96.1000603130525.19837A-100000@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> from Daniel Roth at "Jun 3, 0 01:07:46 pm" To: roth@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE (Daniel Roth) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:11:28 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > I received a suggestion to use Acrobat to select an > > area as a block and save it to a file, but the method seems to work with > > text only. > > Hi, > > keeping the text selection icon pressed a small pop up window appears > where to change the function to graphic selection. Does this help? ha, that's it. Even better, it works in Acrobat Reader on linux. By clicking the right button on the selected area, there is a menu that allows to print to a PS file. Many thanks, Thanh 3-Jun-2000 19:05:21-GMT,2203;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16250 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:05:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07461 for pdftex-list; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:56:14 -0400 Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07458 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:56:12 -0400 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12870 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:00:51 +0100 (BST) Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id UAA14861 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:00:41 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:00:40 +0100 From: Marc van Dongen <dongen@cs.ucc.ie> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: convertMPtoPDF Message-ID: <20000603200040.A23090@cs.ucc.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I am having a problem with convertMPtoPDF. The problem is as follows. I have a small metapost program and if I insert it in a document with xscale and yscale factors set to one the picter is inserted in the centre of the screen. If I change the xscale factor the picture grows as expected---it grows proportionally to the left and the right. However the yscale factor does not do what I would expec. It only grows to the bottom bottom of the screen. The smallest example I could come up with that has the problem needs the following preamble. \documentclass[30pt,landscape]{foils} \input{supp-mis.tex} \input{supp-pdf.tex} \usepackage[pdftex]{geometry} \usepackage{eso-pic} \geometry{headsep=3ex,hscale=0.9} \ClearShipoutPicture \AddToShipoutPicture{\convertMPtoPDF{picture.1}{1.3}{1.3}} Any suggestions as to what could be the cause of this? Thanks in advance, Marc van Dongen -- Marc van Dongen, CS Dept | phone: +353 21 4903578 University College Cork, NUIC | Fax: +353 21 4903113 College Road, Cork, Ireland | Email: dongen@cs.ucc.ie 3-Jun-2000 21:02:58-GMT,1867;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18402 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:02:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07905 for pdftex-list; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:54:28 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07902 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:54:26 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 12yL0a-0006LS-00; Sat, 03 Jun 2000 21:59:05 +0100 Received: from max33.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.33] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12yL0a-00044F-00; Sat, 03 Jun 2000 21:59:04 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14649.32687.498713.242475@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:59:11 +0100 (BST) To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: how to extract certain part of a pdf figure? In-Reply-To: <200006022150.XAA17570@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <14648.7472.902458.530027@localhost.localdomain> <200006022150.XAA17570@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh writes: > text only. I also tried to crop the needed part and save it to the new > file; but Acrobat only changed the CropBox and MediaBox only; the page > contents remain unchanged. but then when you include it a new document, you only see the cropped version. thats the effect you want, isnt it? Sebastian 3-Jun-2000 21:06:40-GMT,1935;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18483 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:06:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07950 for pdftex-list; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:58:59 -0400 Received: from floh.fast-net.de (floh.fast-net.de [195.127.183.130]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07947 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:58:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 8938 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2000 21:03:12 -0000 Received: from pec-17-31.tnt5.hh2.uunet.de (HELO darkstar.rulle.de) (dirk@149.225.17.31) by floh.fast-net.de with SMTP; 3 Jun 2000 21:03:12 -0000 Received: (from dirk@localhost) by darkstar.rulle.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01338; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:22:54 +0200 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:22:54 +0200 Message-Id: <200006032022.WAA01338@darkstar.rulle.de> X-Authentication-Warning: darkstar.rulle.de: dirk set sender to Dirk.Melcher@usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE using -f From: Dirk Melcher <Dirk.Melcher@usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: List of tables as pdf-hypertext Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, could somebody give me a few hints what's nessecary to produce with pdflatex a list of LaTeX tables that is linked with the pages were the tables are? As far as I understand this is possible with LaTeX sections with the help of the hyperref style but I haven't found a way of doing it with tables. Any help (and maybe a short example?) would be appreciated. Thanks, Dirk -- ****************************************************************** * Dr. Dirk Melcher email: Dirk.Melcher@usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE * * Lenschower Weg 2c Fax : 0451-4801-100 * * 23564 Luebeck Tel. : 0451-7073357 * ****************************************************************** 4-Jun-2000 11:24:50-GMT,1995;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03304 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 05:24:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA09878 for pdftex-list; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 06:08:26 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA09875 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 06:08:23 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12yYL3-0003cj-00; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 12:13:05 +0100 Received: from max63.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.63] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12yYL3-0000kz-00; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 12:13:05 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14650.18402.220890.820598@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 13:13:22 +0100 (BST) To: Dirk.Melcher@usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: List of tables as pdf-hypertext In-Reply-To: <200006032022.WAA01338@darkstar.rulle.de> References: <200006032022.WAA01338@darkstar.rulle.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dirk Melcher writes: > could somebody give me a few hints what's nessecary to produce with > pdflatex a list of LaTeX tables that is linked with the pages were > the tables are? As far > as I understand this is possible with LaTeX sections with the help of the > hyperref style but I haven't found a way of doing it with tables. Any help > (and maybe a short example?) would be appreciated. Unless its broken, \usepackage[bookmarkstype=lot,bookmarks]{hyperref} should achieve this effect Sebastian 5-Jun-2000 1:13:16-GMT,2031;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17820 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:13:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12104 for pdftex-list; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:02:41 -0400 Received: from sp2n17.missouri.edu (sp2n17-t.missouri.edu [128.206.2.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12101 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:02:39 -0400 Received: from [128.206.228.55] (Mizzou-AS-228055.missouri.edu [128.206.228.55]) by sp2n17.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA48398; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:06:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: <v04220804b560ac094461@[128.206.228.88]> In-Reply-To: <200006031311.PAA06870@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <200006031311.PAA06870@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:01:52 -0500 To: roth@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE (Daniel Roth) From: Oscar Chavez <oc918@mizzou.edu> Subject: Re: how to extract certain part of a pdf figure? Cc: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 3:11 PM +0200 6/3/00, Han The Thanh quoted Daniel Roth: > > > I received a suggestion to use Acrobat to select an > > > area as a block and save it to a file, but the method seems to work with > > > text only. > > > > Hi, > > > > keeping the text selection icon pressed a small pop up window appears > > where to change the function to graphic selection. Does this help? Some pdf files have the text selection icon dimmed, and hence unaivailable. My questions: 1. Is there a workaround this? 2. Can that (making copying of text and graphics unavailable to the reader) be made with pdftex? Oscar Chavez A polar bear is simply a rectangular bear 113B Stewart Hall after a coordinate transformation. University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 tel. 573-882-4521 5-Jun-2000 9:49:05-GMT,2190;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27445 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 03:49:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14111 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 04:32:24 -0400 Received: from atlas.softax.local (atlas.softax.com.pl [212.45.246.141]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14108 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 04:32:22 -0400 Received: from softax.com.pl (really [16.193.144.97]) by mail2.softax.com.pl via smail with esmtp (ident marcink using rfc1413) id <m12ytJh-0001XuC@atlas.softax.local> (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for <pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:37:05 +0200 (EEST) Message-ID: <393B74C2.157FE036@softax.com.pl> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:37:06 +0200 From: Marcin Kasperski <Marcin.Kasperski@softax.com.pl> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: pl, Polish, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Strange problem (setjmp...) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk While pdflatex'ing large document (which includes a lot of png images) I get the following error: [112]libpng error: Not a PNG file Error: pdflatex (file hierarchia_widok.png): setjmp() failed It seems that the error has nothing to do with the image being processed (if I comment this one out, this error happens on the next one, earlier a lot of images is processed correctly). I suspect some buffer/pool runs out of space - but which one? I tried increasing obj_tab_size and pool_size but it have not helped. Thanks for any help. Version info: OS: Debian potato TeX: teTeX from Debian potato pdflatex --version pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d kpathsea version 3.3.1 -- Marcin.Kasperski | [B] So, how long will it take you to do the analysis? @softax.com.pl | [I] I can't tell you until I have some requirements. Marcin.Kasperski | [B] So, pretend that you have the requirements. How @bigfoot.com | long will it take you to do the analysis? (Martin) 5-Jun-2000 10:46:54-GMT,1846;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28393 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 04:46:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14531 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 05:14:37 -0400 Received: from atlas.softax.local (atlas.softax.com.pl [212.45.246.141]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14528 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 05:14:35 -0400 Received: from softax.com.pl (really [16.193.144.97]) by mail2.softax.com.pl via smail with esmtp (ident marcink using rfc1413) id <m12ytyb-0001XuC@atlas.softax.local> (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for <pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:19:21 +0200 (EEST) Message-ID: <393B7EA8.3CFCFC2A@softax.com.pl> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:19:20 +0200 From: Marcin Kasperski <Marcin.Kasperski@softax.com.pl> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: pl, Polish, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: setjmp problem - diagnosis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk An hour ago I sent description of a problem (while processing png images I got 'setjmp error'...). I found the reason of the problem - I had some images which were _gif_ images although they were named blahblah.png. Converting them to real .png's helped. Nevertheless it is never good idea to handle an error with 'setjmp error'... Regards -- Marcin.Kasperski | A complex system that works is invariably found to @softax.com.pl | have evolved from a simple system that worked. A Marcin.Kasperski | complex system designed from scratch never works and @bigfoot.com | cannot be patched to make it work. (Booch) 5-Jun-2000 19:52:05-GMT,3265;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12464 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 13:51:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18297 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:38:54 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA18294 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:38:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 19716 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jun 2000 19:43:36 -0000 Received: from dialin-194-29-37-143.muenchen.gigabell.net (HELO gmx.de) (194.29.37.143) by mail06.rzmi.gmx.net with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 19:43:36 -0000 Message-ID: <393C038C.40115E9B@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:46:20 +0200 From: Stefan Friedrich <sf8@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobias Burnus <burnus@gmx.de>, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: linearized pdf References: <3.0.6.32.20000518095320.018508a0@pop.wxs.nl> <392D7F09.478BC532@gmx.de> <392D8A0D.8741831E@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Tobias Burnus wrote: > Hallo Stefan, hi all, > > > I tried that using exchange 3 and saved the doc as optimized. However, when > > it comes to downloading, I still have to wait for the whole doc to be > > transferred before I can see the first page. What went wrong? > > First: What does Documentation|Info (or what ever it is called) show? > "Optimation: Yes"? > > Second: How do you display this file? Using AR (standard alone) it > shouldn't work, you need to use the Netscape Plugin. (It might be that > the AR 4.0x on Windows is able to download the file direct, the AR on > linux is not able to do so, the ns plugin works fine with linearized PDF > files.) > > If it still doesn't work, please tell us about the viewer version and > how you try to optain this file. > > Tobias Hi Tobias, hi to all that helped answer my linearized pdf-question. The "File/Documentat |Info/General" does read "Optimized: Yes". So that shouldn't be the problem. I used the AR 4.0 Netscape plugin. With a fast www connection, the download time is negligible and I can't observe any byte serving (obviously there is no need to optimize the file). The server does supports http byte serving. I finally read the Acrobat Reader 4.0 online handbook. The solution turned out to be to disable the option: allow background downloading in the "files/preferences/general" section. Using a slow www-connection, the first page of the 1.7 MB document is displayed immediately. Then if I jump to another section using the bookmarks, it downloads about 100 k to display the desired page. As soon as the page is displayed, the rest of the document continues to download until I jump to another section, and so on. I suppose that the "large" size of the page indicates that there are a lot of fonts or graphics embedded. I am surprised that the benefits of linearized pdf can be unwittingly disabled using a small option box in the AR whose name doesn't really imply such a thing. I wonder if I'm wrong in my conclusions? thanks for all the help! -- Stefan 5-Jun-2000 14:33:31-GMT,2186;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02794 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 08:33:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15990 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:12:38 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15987 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:12:35 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 12yxge-0002Ym-00; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:17:04 +0100 Received: from max40.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.40] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12yxgd-00051w-00; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:17:04 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14651.44818.377974.791759@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:45:54 +0100 (BST) To: Marcin.Kasperski@softax.com.pl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Strange problem (setjmp...) In-Reply-To: <393B74C2.157FE036@softax.com.pl> References: <393B74C2.157FE036@softax.com.pl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Marcin Kasperski writes: > While pdflatex'ing large document (which includes a lot of png images) I > get the following error: > > [112]libpng error: Not a PNG file > > Error: pdflatex (file hierarchia_widok.png): setjmp() failed as you say, some memory error > Version info: > > OS: Debian potato > TeX: teTeX from Debian potato > pdflatex --version > pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d I would suggest you get the latest "3.14159-14f-released-20000525" release before pursuing this further. If cannot easily do that, put the files on a web site and I (or others) could check for you whether it works now I know Debian potato looks up to date, but pdftex has changed a lot in the last year. Sebastian 6-Jun-2000 1:13:30-GMT,1587;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20717 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:13:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20390 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:01:45 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20387 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:01:43 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.140.84]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA1B46; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 03:06:38 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000606030044.0084f100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 03:00:44 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org, ntg-context@ntg.nl From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Since there were some problems reported, I uploaded better zips to : http://www.pragma-ade.nl/samples.htm So, whoever want to do Han The Thanh a favor, is invited to (re)try Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Jun-2000 11:14:15-GMT,2168;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03362 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 05:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA22860 for pdftex-list; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 06:01:55 -0400 Received: from aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be [139.165.32.133]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA22857 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 06:01:53 -0400 Received: from iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be (IDENT:root@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be [139.165.121.43]) by aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA103346 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:06:43 +0200 Received: (from quy@localhost) by iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/Nguyen-Dai Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org>) id NAA15907 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:08:05 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:08:05 +0200 From: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> To: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: pdftex - ghostscript Message-ID: <20000606130805.A15833@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> Reply-To: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Organization: LTAS-ULG X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.12 RedHat-6.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a problem with Ghostscript 6.01 RH6.1. In fact I make a simple test with "pslatex" in 2 cases : 1) Use directly pdftex $ pdflatex test 2) Use latex-> dvi and use $ latex test $ dvips -o test2.ps test.dvi $ ps2pdf13 test2.ps 3) The same 2) but with option "-Ppdf" for dvips : $ latex test $ dvips -Ppdf -o test3.ps test.dvi $ ps2pdf13 test3.pdf So I obtain 3 file PDF. For the first case, that's all right :-) For 2) It seems all characters like "{" were bitmaped :-) For 3) All "{" are type1-> OK, but all character "fi" become "£", and ghostscript can not do correctly command "\pmb{}" in Mathmode. I put my examples at : http://iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be/~quy/tmp/tex/ Anyone found similary problem ? My TeX is TeTeX 1.0.6 RH6.1, ghostscript-6.01, pdftex-14f-released-20000525. Thanks in advance, Q. 7-Jun-2000 9:17:28-GMT,2913;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05457 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 03:17:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30407 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 03:56:39 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA30404 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 03:56:33 -0400 Received: from sun06 (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07069 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 05:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 05:01:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky <tjk@ams.org> To: pdftex list <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Use of alpha masks in PNG graphics Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10006070456520.22803-100000@sun06.ams.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Well, it looks like there is a new PDF specification (1.4), and the only PDF 1.4 generator out there now is Illustrator 9. From a previous post of Leonard's to the the PDF list hosted bt PDF Zone, a new Adobe technote describing the changes from 1.3 to 1.4 should be on Adobe's server soon... Anyway, the interesting thing here is that there is alpha channel support in PDF 1.4. Cool! And PNG supports alpha channels... Tom ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:53:33 -0600 From: Leonard Rosenthol <leonardr@digapp.com> Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] .png graphic format The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 11:35 AM -0400 6/6/00, Roger Bell wrote: >Does anyone have experience using .png graphics in .pdf files? I would >appreciate any information. How would you rate using this graphics format >vs. others? > I've used them in my work with converting SVG documents into PDF (since PNG is the preferred raster format for use with SVG, JPEG coming in second) and they work just fine. As Jason points out, they (like many other formats - except JPEG and TIFF) get converted to "a bag of bits" inside the PDF, so it's (CURRENTLY!) not any better/worse than most others. HOWEVER, in PDF 1.4 (aka the Illustrator 9 version of PDF), since there is now support for alpha masking it would be possible to actually use the alpha channel information in the PNG when converting to PDF for some nice effects. Leonard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol <mailto:leonardr@digapp.com> Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 7-Jun-2000 14:56:25-GMT,9058;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12771 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:56:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA31788 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:26:02 -0400 Received: from mail-server-10.star.net.uk (mail-server-10.star.net.uk [195.216.16.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA31785 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:25:56 -0400 From: david.waller@westsig.co.uk X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 15415 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2000 14:23:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netstar.invensys.com) (212.125.65.20) by mail-server-10.star.net.uk with SMTP; 7 Jun 2000 14:23:38 -0000 Received: by netstar.invensys.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 802568F7.004F27FC ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:24:35 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: BTR To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <802568F7.004F25D8.00@netstar.invensys.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:16:53 +0100 Subject: Re: Installing pdftex Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=l0puSDfqdJRhVV52HeqR1NzVE8akPNCMR37RZXNf3dH2ISf3Fo8Zj9UO" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --0__=l0puSDfqdJRhVV52HeqR1NzVE8akPNCMR37RZXNf3dH2ISf3Fo8Zj9UO Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Christophe, From what you have said I assume you have not installed a Tex tree. While it is possible to install everything manually an existing TeX tree is by far the best way to go (My TeX tree has over 8000 files in it and consists of 127MBytes). Once you have a TeX tree, installing PdfTex is not difficult, though your Tex tree will probably already have it installed (Try MikTex or fpTex) Dave Waller "Christophe De Baene" <chdbaene@vub.ac.be> on 07/06/2000 13:49:56 To: pdftex@tug.org cc: (bcc: David Waller/Birmingham/GB/Westinghouse-Signal/BTR) Subject: Installing pdftex Hello, I have a question to install pdftex manually so that I understand whats going on and so I have more grip on it. So, I would like to get the components that I need and than to configure pdftex, not using a distribution like MikTeX. I have done the following steps, but I think it is far from being configured. I have created a folder 'e:/pdftex', and I have downloaded the pdftex for windows, and I have copied the following files into e:/pdftex - pdftex.exe - pdftex.pool I have created 'pdftex.cfg' which contains output_format 0 compress_level 9 decimal_digits 3 page_width 210mm page_height 297mm horigin 1in and copied into e:/pdftex Now, I assume that I need fonts, in http://ctan.tug.org/ctan/tex-archive/fonts/ there are many folders, but I dont know which one to take :-( How should I configure texmf.cnf? ... I would like to set it up, so that I can compile 'example.tex' (pdftex example.tex) whithout any errors and that I get a nicely pdf-file, that would be great :-) so, could somebody tell how to set it up (I assume the fonts, eplain, configuration files, etc) thank you very much Christophe ______________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit- http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp ______________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. 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<beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:00:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32340 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:36:02 -0400 Received: from aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be [139.165.32.133]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA32337 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:35:50 -0400 Received: from iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be (IDENT:root@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be [139.165.121.43]) by aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA188920; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:40:39 +0200 Received: (from quy@localhost) by iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/Nguyen-Dai Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org>) id RAA27827; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:42:02 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:42:02 +0200 From: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> To: Christophe De Baene <chdbaene@vub.ac.be> Cc: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Installing pdftex Message-ID: <20000607174202.A27804@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> Reply-To: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> References: <012701bfd07e$e1dee080$428784d5@upc.chello.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <012701bfd07e$e1dee080$428784d5@upc.chello.be>; from chdbaene@vub.ac.be on Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 02:49:56PM +0200 Organization: LTAS-ULG X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.12 RedHat-6.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 02:49:56PM +0200, Christophe De Baene wrote: > Hello, > > I have a question to install pdftex manually so that I understand whats going on > and so I have more grip on it. So, I would like to get the components that I need > and than to configure pdftex, not using a distribution like MikTeX. > This is NOT good idea at all, I think :-) Q. 7-Jun-2000 16:53:01-GMT,5834;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16016 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:53:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA31426 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 07:44:43 -0400 Received: from pop01.chello.be (phoenix.chello.be [195.162.196.23]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA31423 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 07:44:41 -0400 Received: from spike ([213.132.135.66]) by pop01.chello.be (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license f891beffebad5da1b2ebd034a97f2710) with SMTP id <20000607125002.GVHY17444.pop01@spike> for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 14:50:03 +0200 Message-ID: <012701bfd07e$e1dee080$428784d5@upc.chello.be> From: "Christophe De Baene" <chdbaene@vub.ac.be> To: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Installing pdftex Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 14:49:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0124_01BFD08F.A53E7DA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0124_01BFD08F.A53E7DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have a question to install pdftex manually so that I understand whats = going on and so I have more grip on it. So, I would like to get the components = that I need=20 and than to configure pdftex, not using a distribution like MikTeX. I have done the following steps, but I think it is far from being = configured. I have created a folder 'e:/pdftex', and I have downloaded the pdftex = for windows,=20 and I have copied the following files into e:/pdftex - pdftex.exe - pdftex.pool I have created 'pdftex.cfg' which contains output_format 0 compress_level 9 decimal_digits 3 page_width 210mm page_height 297mm horigin 1in and copied into e:/pdftex Now, I assume that I need fonts, in = http://ctan.tug.org/ctan/tex-archive/fonts/ there are many folders, but I dont know which one to take :-( How should I configure texmf.cnf? ... I would like to set it up, so that I can compile 'example.tex' (pdftex = example.tex) whithout any errors and that I get a nicely pdf-file, that would be great :-) so, could somebody tell how to set it up (I assume the fonts, eplain, = configuration files, etc) thank you very much Christophe ------=_NextPart_000_0124_01BFD08F.A53E7DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a question to install pdftex = manually so=20 that I understand whats going on</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and so I have more grip on it. = S</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2>o, I would like to get the components that = I</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2> need </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and than to configure = pdftex,</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2>  not using a distribution like = MikTeX.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have done the following steps, but I = think it is=20 far from being configured.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have created a = folder 'e:/pdftex', and I=20 have downloaded </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the pdftex for = windows,=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and I have copied the = following</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2> files into e:/pdftex</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- pdftex.exe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- pdftex.pool</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have created 'pdftex.cfg' which=20 contains</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>output_format 0<BR>compress_level=20 9<BR>decimal_digits 3<BR>page_width 210mm<BR>page_height = 297mm<BR>horigin=20 1in</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and copied into e:/pdftex</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now, I assume that I need fonts, in = </FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://ctan.tug.org/ctan/tex-archive/fonts/">http://ctan.tug.org/= ctan/tex-archive/fonts/</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are many folders, but I dont know = which one=20 to take :-(</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How should=20 I configure texmf.cnf?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to set it up, so = that I=20 can compile 'example.tex' (pdftex example.tex) whithout any=20 errors</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and that I get a nicely pdf-file, that = would be=20 great :-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so, could somebody tell how to set it = up (I=20 assume the fonts, eplain, configuration files, etc)</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thank you very much</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Christophe</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0124_01BFD08F.A53E7DA0-- 8-Jun-2000 8:32:50-GMT,1249;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA08963 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 02:32:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA05879 for pdftex-list; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 03:15:39 -0400 Received: from pred.posexperts.com.pl (alpha.posexperts.com.pl [212.244.52.17]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA05876 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 03:15:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 1627 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jun 2000 08:27:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:27:54 +0200 From: wrobell <wrobell@posexperts.com.pl> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Printing forms Message-ID: <20000608102751.F1478@pred.posexperts.com.pl> Reply-To: wrobell <wrobell@posexperts.com.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I want to create PDF form so I could print only user entered data. For example: Name: ________ Surname: _________ Then printed are only entered data without strings "Name:" and "Surname:". I need such thing for printing on special, letterheads (company paper?). wrobell <wrobell@posexperts.com.pl> 8-Jun-2000 10:43:09-GMT,1896;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11362 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 04:43:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA06138 for pdftex-list; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 05:27:58 -0400 Received: from pred.posexperts.com.pl (alpha.posexperts.com.pl [212.244.52.17]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA06135 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 05:27:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 1596 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jun 2000 10:39:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:39:51 +0200 From: wrobell <wrobell@posexperts.com.pl> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Printing forms Message-ID: <20000608123946.A1578@pred.posexperts.com.pl> Reply-To: wrobell <wrobell@posexperts.com.pl> References: <20000608102751.F1478@pred.posexperts.com.pl> <393F8490.D0E77BA8@forprint.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <393F8490.D0E77BA8@forprint.se>; from anders.alstrin@forprint.se on Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 12:33:36PM +0100 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 12:33:36PM +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: > wrobell wrote: > > > I want to create PDF form so I could print only > > user entered data. For example: > > > > Name: ________ Surname: _________ > > > > Then printed are only entered data without > > strings "Name:" and "Surname:". I need such > > thing for printing on special, letterheads > > (company paper?). > > I use PHP/Apache PDFlib and PDFtex to do this and > it works great. > I don´t know if you are talking about PDF(fdf) forms > or html forms? > If you are using PDF forms I can´t help out but, > if you want to set up something like my setup > then I will try to help. Go ahead! wrobell <wrobell@posexperts.com.pl> 8-Jun-2000 17:37:35-GMT,10539;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20919 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:37:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA16222 for pdftex-list; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:17:54 -0400 Received: from ipc4.uib.es (ipc4.uib.es [130.206.33.24]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16219 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:17:42 -0400 Received: from ipc4.uib.es (pcignasi.uib.es [130.206.134.178]) by ipc4.uib.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06598 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:15:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <393FD5F4.43673126@ipc4.uib.es> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 19:20:52 +0200 From: Ignasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?Furi=F3?= Caldentey <ignasi@ipc4.uib.es> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: LaTeX Warning with hyperref and babel Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3BC1B336AE6D5616E5333ABD" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3BC1B336AE6D5616E5333ABD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit After some work I discovered that in a simple example using babel (catalan) and hyperref allways produces the message LaTeX Warning: Label(s) may have changed. Rerun to get cross-references right. If I comment babel or hyperref, everything works. Any idea ? The .log file is attached. Thank you -- ------------------------------------------------------- Ignasi Furió Caldentey ignasi@ipc4.uib.es Dpt. 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22:29:39 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000608222630.3ca71b5e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 22:26:30 +0200 To: Ignasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?Furi=F3?= Caldentey <ignasi@ipc4.uib.es>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: LaTeX Warning with hyperref and babel In-Reply-To: <393FD5F4.43673126@ipc4.uib.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id PAA17678 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 19:20 08.06.2000 +0200, Ignasi Furió Caldentey wrote: > >After some work I discovered that in a simple example >using babel (catalan) and hyperref allways produces the message > >LaTeX Warning: Label(s) may have changed. Rerun to get cross-references >right. The problem is known, but currently no time to fix :-( Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 8-Jun-2000 23:05:08-GMT,1156;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01468 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:05:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA18557 for pdftex-list; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:55:03 -0400 Received: from dk.wroc.pl (qmailr@pc155.wroclaw.ppp.tpnet.pl [212.160.40.155]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18554 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:54:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 3311 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Jun 2000 22:54:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:54:17 +0200 From: wrobell <wrobell@posexperts.com.pl> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: image not printed Message-ID: <20000609005417.A3304@dk.wroc.pl> Reply-To: wrobell <wrobell@posexperts.com.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk How to create document with background as image. This background should be visible on the screen (viewing i.e. with Acrobat Reader) but not after printing on the paper. Is it possible? wrobell <wrobell@posexperts.com.pl> 11-Jun-2000 10:35:47-GMT,2847;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA13125 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 04:35:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA01064 for pdftex-list; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 05:21:40 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01061 for <pdftex@www.tug.org>; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 05:21:36 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 1314x2-0000bB-00; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:26:44 +0100 Received: from max74.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.74] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 1314x1-0002Am-00; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:26:43 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14659.30248.905307.296081@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:21:12 +0100 (BST) To: dubal@compuserve.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: image outsourcing for web? In-Reply-To: <000401bfd306$4157c980$ca6afea9@rudeboy> References: <000401bfd306$4157c980$ca6afea9@rudeboy> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Vladimir Dubal writes: > My document has many figures (=big filesize), but I still want to > publish it on the web. What do I do? Can I somehow outsource the > images in separate files together with the caption and still get > the correct numbering and hyperlinking (departing from the reference > in the text) I have no doubt it could be done if you were prepared to get stuck into some fairly serious understanding of LaTeX style files. I question the concept, though. the big advantage of PDF files is that are self-contained. If you take out all the pictures, someone downloading the PDF file to home will not be very happy. Why are you using PDF, rather than HTML? > I suppose also a thumb could link to the picture, but I'm not yet > sure if I want to do that. It would of course be even more > brilliant if I could load the image into the file when I go on > that particular page, without having it in the file directly, but I > assume that is utopia. It is not utopia, but it is not PDF. Have you tried optimizing your PDF with Acrobat? > p.s. is your pdf-tex manual available on the web in tex form by any > chance, or any other hyperrefed tex-document for that matter. I am > still quite a novice and would greatly benefit > from the source. which manual? there is pdftex documentation at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ sebastian 11-Jun-2000 15:13:29-GMT,4211;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17889 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:13:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02027 for pdftex-list; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:04:59 -0400 Received: from aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be [139.165.32.133]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02024 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:04:54 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:root@cs246.gw.ulg.ac.be [139.165.30.86]) by aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA49028; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:08:41 +0200 Received: from linuxbe.org (IDENT:quy@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3/NDQ) with ESMTP id TAA02627; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:05:26 +0200 Message-ID: <3943C6D5.BE0BA543@linuxbe.org> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:05:25 +0200 From: NDQ <quy@linuxbe.org> Reply-To: NDQ <daiquy.nguyen@ulg.ac.be> Organization: LTAS-ULG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> CC: oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Subject: thumbpdf problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I use "thumbpdf" 1.4 (come with teTeX 1.0.6 under RH6.1). I have an article (9 pages). After running pdflatex (3.14159-14f-released-20000525) on my article.tex, I got PDF file. This PDF can be viewed with AR4.0 without any prob. Now I try : $ thumbpdf article And I got error : [quy] ~/tex/article$ thumbpdf article THUMBPDF 1.4, 22.04.1999 - Copyright (c) 1999 by Heiko Oberdiek. *** make png files / run ghostscript *** *** make "thumbpdf.pdf" / run pdftex *** ! Undefined control sequence. ! Missing number, treated as zero. ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted). ! Undefined control sequence. ! Missing number, treated as zero. ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted). ! Undefined control sequence. ! Missing number, treated as zero. ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted). ! Undefined control sequence. ! Missing number, treated as zero. ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted). ! Undefined control sequence. ! Missing number, treated as zero. ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted). ! Undefined control sequence. ! Missing number, treated as zero. ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted). ! Undefined control sequence. ! Missing number, treated as zero. ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted). ! Undefined control sequence. ! Missing number, treated as zero. ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted). ! Undefined control sequence. ! Missing number, treated as zero. ! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted). !!! Error: 256 (pdftex)! In my working directory, I see now : -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 276 Jun 11 16:29 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 7590 Jun 11 18:47 article.aux -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 23770 Jun 11 18:47 article.log -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 515 Jun 11 18:47 article.out -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 215832 Jun 11 18:47 article.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 36324 Jun 11 18:29 article.tex drwxr-xr-x 2 quy users 4096 Jun 11 16:25 fig -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 1376 Jun 11 18:55 thumb001.png -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 1442 Jun 11 18:55 thumb002.png -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 1289 Jun 11 18:55 thumb003.png -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 1508 Jun 11 18:56 thumb004.png -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 1367 Jun 11 18:56 thumb005.png -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 1024 Jun 11 18:56 thumb006.png -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 1124 Jun 11 18:56 thumb007.png -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 1249 Jun 11 18:56 thumb008.png -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 745 Jun 11 18:56 thumb009.png -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 22645 Jun 11 18:56 thumbpdf.log -rw-r--r-- 1 quy users 11046 Jun 11 18:56 thumbpdf.pdf This is the first time I use "thumbpdf" so I don't underdstand why :-) There is already "\usepackage{thumbpdf}" in my article.tex file. It seems the 2nd step of "thumbpdf" can not be executed correctly. Anyone can give me some help ? Thanks in advance, -- Nguyen-Dai Quy 11-Jun-2000 15:57:57-GMT,1545;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18699 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:57:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02292 for pdftex-list; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:48:13 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA02289 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:48:09 -0400 Received: from remote142-137.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.137] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 131A34-0006LO-00; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:53:18 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000611175007.3c77aaba@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:50:07 +0200 To: NDQ <daiquy.nguyen@ulg.ac.be>, pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: thumbpdf problem In-Reply-To: <3943C6D5.BE0BA543@linuxbe.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 19:05 11.06.2000 +0200, NDQ wrote: >(3.14159-14f-released-20000525) on my article.tex, I got PDF file. >THUMBPDF 1.4, 22.04.1999 - Copyright (c) 1999 by Heiko Oberdiek. Compare the two dates. Please get the latest thumbpdf from CTAN (v2.4). If the error remains, please send me a bug-report. Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 11-Jun-2000 22:56:33-GMT,1783;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26238 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:56:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03812 for pdftex-list; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:41:47 -0400 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03809 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:41:43 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1b-176-176.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.6.176] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 131GVE-0006Cz-00; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:46:49 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 131GWU-0000VY-00; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:48:06 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:48:06 -0700 From: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> To: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> Cc: Marcin.Kasperski@softax.com.pl, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Upgrading to pdftex 14f Message-ID: <20000611154806.A1936@redwoodscientific.com> References: <393B74C2.157FE036@softax.com.pl> <14651.44818.377974.791759@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <14651.44818.377974.791759@localhost.localdomain> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 02:45:54PM +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > I would suggest you get the latest "3.14159-14f-released-20000525" How is this done? Does one have to upgrade all of TeX or just pdftex? I tried downloading files from: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/0.14f/ but the files there have no instructions. John 12-Jun-2000 1:55:05-GMT,2314;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29508 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:55:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04357 for pdftex-list; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:47:31 -0400 Received: from kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04354 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:47:26 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA32299; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:53:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:53:15 +0200 Message-Id: <200006120153.DAA32299@kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: dubal@compuserve.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: image outsourcing for web? In-Reply-To: <14659.30248.905307.296081@localhost.localdomain> References: <000401bfd306$4157c980$ca6afea9@rudeboy> <14659.30248.905307.296081@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Vladimir Dubal writes: >> p.s. is your pdf-tex manual available on the web in tex form by >> any chance, or any other hyperrefed tex-document for that >> matter. I am still quite a novice and would greatly benefit >> from the source. Look at http://www.pragma-ade.nl/pdftex.htm or, at least if you have teTeX, at .../texmf/doc/latex/hyperref/manual.pdf If you are interested in the sources, look at .../texmf/doc/pdftex/base/samplepdf.tex Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jun-2000 8:18:04-GMT,2089;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07264 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 02:18:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA05422 for pdftex-list; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:07:23 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05419 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:07:16 -0400 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 131PKS-0006S0-00; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:12:16 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 131PKS-0007H5-00; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:12:16 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14660.39783.977564.36311@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:12:23 +0100 (BST) To: jlawless@redwoodscientific.com Cc: Marcin.Kasperski@softax.com.pl, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Upgrading to pdftex 14f In-Reply-To: <20000611154806.A1936@redwoodscientific.com> References: <393B74C2.157FE036@softax.com.pl> <14651.44818.377974.791759@localhost.localdomain> <20000611154806.A1936@redwoodscientific.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk John Lawless writes: > On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 02:45:54PM +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > I would suggest you get the latest "3.14159-14f-released-20000525" > > How is this done? Does one have to upgrade all of TeX or just pdftex? > I tried downloading files from: > > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/0.14f/ > > but the files there have no instructions. > You could get a current teTeX source, unpack the pdftex stuff over the top, and recompile sebastian 12-Jun-2000 21:10:19-GMT,2509;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08701 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:10:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07885 for pdftex-list; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:49:59 -0400 Received: from aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be [139.165.32.133]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07882 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:49:36 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:root@cs211.gw.ulg.ac.be [139.165.30.51]) by aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA174234 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:54:19 +0200 Received: (from quy@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3/NDQ) id MAA02095 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:30:53 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:30:52 +0200 From: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> To: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Upgrading to pdftex 14f Message-ID: <20000612123052.A2081@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> References: <393B74C2.157FE036@softax.com.pl> <14651.44818.377974.791759@localhost.localdomain> <20000611154806.A1936@redwoodscientific.com> <14660.39783.977564.36311@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14660.39783.977564.36311@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk>; from sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk on Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 09:12:23AM +0100 Organization: LTAS-ULG X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.12 RedHat-6.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 09:12:23AM +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > How is this done? Does one have to upgrade all of TeX or just pdftex? > > I tried downloading files from: > > > > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/0.14f/ > > > > but the files there have no instructions. If you want you can update ONLY pdftex. I remplaced pdftex (and related) binaries of teTeX (RH6.1) package by Thanh's statically linked binaries, rebuild format and that's all right :-) > > You could get a current teTeX source, unpack the pdftex stuff over the > top, and recompile Yes, of course, this is a best solution but not anyone can do that :-) So get binaries for updating is easier in some cases :-) Regards, -- Nguyen-Dai Quy Rue des Champs 84, B4020, Liège, Belgique Tél:+32-4-349.15.29 http://w3.to/quy 12-Jun-2000 23:01:20-GMT,2057;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11684 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:01:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08393 for pdftex-list; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:51:50 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08390 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:51:39 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 131d8Y-0005mp-00; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:56:54 +0100 Received: from max48.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.48] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 131d8X-00062L-00; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:56:54 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14661.26121.311849.265583@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:36:57 +0100 (BST) To: hurta@fi.muni.cz cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [Filip Hurta <hurta@fi.muni.cz>] In-Reply-To: <200006121609.MAA07058@tug.org> References: <200006121609.MAA07058@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk NOTE: you are not subscribed to the list under this name > \scalebox{.60}{\includegraphics[-20mm,-5mm][10mm,155mm]{pic/iis2}} > \end{figure} > > \end{document} > > iis2.pdf is picture converted to .pdf from .eps through epstopdf. > Picture iis2.pdf looks OK in Acrobat, but in resulting pdf document it > is not present (I examined pdf in asci viewer). > I tested with pdflatex 14e and 14f. what does the log file say? does it show the file being read? what are you trying to achieve with the [-20mm,-5mm][10mm,155mm]? Sebastian 13-Jun-2000 2:10:27-GMT,2677;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15593 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08936 for pdftex-list; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:02:15 -0400 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08932 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:02:03 -0400 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc25.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.215]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29264 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:07:35 +0200 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26271 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:02:05 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:02:04 +0200 (MEST) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" <kla@fh-landshut.de> X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: sound in pdf Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10006121959510.26215-100000@INET.anae.kla.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible, to include a sound button in the sidebar of PDFSLIDE (package by Radhakrishnan), that will play a sound file belonging to that slide ? i.e. implement an "\oversound" command similar to the \overlay, that will give backgrounds to individual slides? The button should be deactivated, if no individual WAV file is available for the current slide ... Could you point me in a direction, where something similar is implemented in PDFTEX or TETEX slide packages ? When will MP3 files be supported by Acroread and by Linux Acroread? Or is it possible to start the Winamp or freeamp sound program from within acroread (similar to netscape) ? I can't even get to work the following simple PDFTEX file (compiled to pdf without error in linux and tried in win98) with sound. What am I doing wrong ? \pdfpagewidth=11.69in \pdfpageheight=8.26in \documentclass[a4paper,landscape,pdftex,12pt]{article} \usepackage{pslatex} \usepackage[pdftex,bookmarks=true]{hyperref} \begin{document} \section{Demo} \href{test.pdf}{another file} \newline \leftline{% \pdfannot width 0in height 0in depth 0in {% /Subtype /Sound /Sound << /F (rucki.wav) >>} An example of sound annotation in WAV} \end{document} The file "samplepdf.tex", where I took this from, can't be compiled either because of many errors like: ! Undefined control sequence. l.34 \pdfdecimaldigits What is missing ? Thanks for any help, H.Betz 13-Jun-2000 2:10:30-GMT,1892;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15598 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:10:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08935 for pdftex-list; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:02:11 -0400 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08928 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:02:00 -0400 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc25.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.215]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29261 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:07:32 +0200 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26274 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:03:23 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:03:23 +0200 (MEST) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" <kla@fh-landshut.de> X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: seminar and pdftex Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10006122002120.26215-100000@INET.anae.kla.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I tried to use the seminar package with pdflatex, but the slides will only fill the upper left corner of the page. Is there any redefining necessary ? Example: \pdfpagewidth=11.69in \pdfpageheight=8.26in \documentclass[a4,landscape,pdftex]{seminar} \usepackage{pslatex} \usepackage{fancybox} \slideframe{Oval} \begin{document} \begin{slide} ... \end{slide} \end{document} I'm using the seminar package and ps2pdf, because pdfslide won't allow me AFAIK to hide the navigation sidebar on the presentation screen. But I would like to use seminar directly in PDFLATEX for generating bookmarks etc. Is that possible? Thanks for any help, H.Betz 13-Jun-2000 2:29:33-GMT,2453;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16053 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:29:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09019 for pdftex-list; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:22:10 -0400 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09016 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:22:00 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1a-5-69.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.15.69] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 131gQC-0004i7-00; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:27:21 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 131gRR-0001JE-00; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:28:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:28:37 -0700 From: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> To: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> Cc: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Upgrading to pdftex 14f Message-ID: <20000612192837.A5021@redwoodscientific.com> References: <393B74C2.157FE036@softax.com.pl> <14651.44818.377974.791759@localhost.localdomain> <20000611154806.A1936@redwoodscientific.com> <14660.39783.977564.36311@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20000612123052.A2081@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <20000612123052.A2081@localhost.localdomain> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk OK, I copied the new Linux binaries over the old, replaced the .pool files, and ran "fmtutil -all". In my first tests, it works except when a figure is included which generates an "undefined control sequence error": -----------------begin log file: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2C 7.3.2x) (format=pdflatex 2000.6.12) 12 JUN 2000 19:40 **fig.tex (fig.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel <v3.6x> and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i ...[snipped]... \nofMPsegments=\count93 \nofMParguments=\count94 ) ! Undefined control sequence. <argument> ...setbox \@tempboxa =\hbox {\pdfimage {\Gin@base .pdf}}\else \se... l.6 \includegraphics{logo} ? ----------------- This same latex file works fine under pdflatex Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1). Any suggestions? Thanks, John 13-Jun-2000 6:10:47-GMT,1755;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20765 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:10:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10063 for pdftex-list; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:02:23 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA10060 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:02:11 -0400 Received: from remote142-141.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.141] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 131jqw-0004aY-00; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:07:10 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000613075350.08cf3c82@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:53:50 +0200 To: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com>, Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: Upgrading to pdftex 14f Cc: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <20000612192837.A5021@redwoodscientific.com> References: <20000612123052.A2081@localhost.localdomain> <393B74C2.157FE036@softax.com.pl> <14651.44818.377974.791759@localhost.localdomain> <20000611154806.A1936@redwoodscientific.com> <14660.39783.977564.36311@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20000612123052.A2081@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 19:28 12.06.2000 -0700, John Lawless wrote: ><argument> ...setbox \@tempboxa =\hbox {\pdfimage http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 13-Jun-2000 6:54:19-GMT,2211;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA21638 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:54:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10239 for pdftex-list; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:41:48 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10236 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:41:35 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07849; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:48:38 +0530 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:42:50 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> cc: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org>, pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Upgrading to pdftex 14f In-Reply-To: <20000612192837.A5021@redwoodscientific.com> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006131138160.1263-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, John Lawless wrote: JL> -----------------begin log file: JL> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2C 7.3.2x) (format=pdflatex 2000.6.12) 12 JUN 2000 19:40 JL> **fig.tex JL> (fig.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} JL> LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 JL> Babel <v3.6x> and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i JL> ...[snipped]... JL> \nofMPsegments=\count93 JL> \nofMParguments=\count94 JL> ) JL> ! Undefined control sequence. JL> <argument> ...setbox \@tempboxa =\hbox {\pdfimage JL> {\Gin@base .pdf}}\else \se... JL> l.6 \includegraphics{logo} JL> JL> ? JL> ----------------- Your pdftex.def is old, please update it. The primitive \pdfimage has changed to \pdfximage in new version of pdfTeX. Updated pdftex.def will solve it. -- Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 13-Jun-2000 7:04:52-GMT,1936;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21840 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:04:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10243 for pdftex-list; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:42:13 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10240 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:42:01 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA06958; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:13:19 +0530 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:07:31 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" <kla@fh-landshut.de> cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: seminar and pdftex In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10006122002120.26215-100000@INET.anae.kla.de> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006131101390.753-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Verwalter Dr.Betz wrote: VD> \begin{document} VD> \begin{slide} VD> ... VD> \end{slide} VD> \end{document} VD> VD> I'm using the seminar package and ps2pdf, because pdfslide won't allow VD> me AFAIK to hide the navigation sidebar on the presentation screen. But there is an elder brother, pdfscreen.sty which will help you to eliminate the side bars with nopanel option. Please get the bug fixed version from: http://www.river-valley.com/download/pdfscreen.zip There is an example slide.pdf and slide.tex which will help you to make slides for presentation. You can change the screen dimensions in any way you like. -- Radhakrishnan --------------------------------------------------------- A guy who enjoys TeX with Linux 13-Jun-2000 8:28:19-GMT,1833;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23413 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:28:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA10926 for pdftex-list; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 03:19:11 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10922 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 03:19:01 -0400 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 131lzd-0004rl-00; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:24:17 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 131lzd-0008Gy-00; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:24:17 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14661.61370.436092.167039@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:24:26 +0100 (BST) To: jlawless@redwoodscientific.com Cc: Quy@linuxbe.org, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Upgrading to pdftex 14f In-Reply-To: <20000612192837.A5021@redwoodscientific.com> References: <393B74C2.157FE036@softax.com.pl> <14651.44818.377974.791759@localhost.localdomain> <20000611154806.A1936@redwoodscientific.com> <14660.39783.977564.36311@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20000612123052.A2081@localhost.localdomain> <20000612192837.A5021@redwoodscientific.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk John Lawless writes: .. > <argument> ...setbox \@tempboxa =\hbox {\pdfimage get an uptodate version of pdftex.def sebastian 13-Jun-2000 10:19:39-GMT,1381;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA25462 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:19:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11442 for pdftex-list; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:56:11 -0400 Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11439 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:56:01 -0400 Received: from ct.local.filanet.dk (ct.local.filanet.dk [192.168.1.81]) by mail.filanet.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA08257 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:01:04 GMT Received: (from ct@localhost) by ct.local.filanet.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id MAA01820; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:01:04 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ct.local.filanet.dk: ct set sender to ct@filanet.dk using -f To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Changebar From: Claus Tondering <ct@filanet.dk> Date: 13 Jun 2000 12:01:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: Radhakrishnan C V's message of "Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:42:50 +0530 (IST)" Message-ID: <5yhfaxucgv.fsf@ct.local.filanet.dk> Lines: 4 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible to get the changebar package to work with pdflatex? -- Claus Tondering 13-Jun-2000 14:02:41-GMT,1604;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29608 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:02:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA12189 for pdftex-list; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:45:11 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12186 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:45:02 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AA3DF2501FE; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:42:21 +0200 Message-ID: <39464C6B.B1314187@forprint.se> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:59:55 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org>, "ntg-context@ntg.nl" <ntg-context@ntg.nl> Subject: Controling zoom factor in pdfdoc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I don´t really know if this is a context question or PDFtex config question so sorry if this mail is OT. The win98 Acrobat reader web browser plug-in has an bug that render´s the font wrong in default zoom factor. My question is if I can control this inside my *.tex doc or in pdftex.cfg? I tryed to set "pdfdest fit" in pdftex.cfg but it didnt do anything. I even try´d to ad \pdfdest[fit] in my *.tex doc but that didn´t work ether. Thanks. 13-Jun-2000 20:18:55-GMT,2356;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (IDENT:root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09434 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:18:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02292 for pdftex-list; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:06:11 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02289 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:06:03 -0400 Received: from hagenthinkpad ([195.121.141.126]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AACAFD; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:09:09 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000613210701.0175adf0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:07:01 +0200 To: Anders Alstrin <anders.alstrin@forprint.se> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: Controling zoom factor in pdfdoc. Cc: PDFtex <pdftex@tug.org>, "ntg-context@ntg.nl" <ntg-context@ntg.nl> In-Reply-To: <39464C6B.B1314187@forprint.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id PAA02290 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 03:59 PM 6/13/2000 +0100, Anders Alstrin wrote: >I don´t really know if this is a context question or PDFtex config >question so sorry if this mail is OT. > >The win98 Acrobat reader web browser plug-in has an bug that >render´s the font wrong in default zoom factor. >My question is if I can control this inside my *.tex doc or in >pdftex.cfg? > >I tryed to set "pdfdest fit" in pdftex.cfg but it didnt do anything. >I even try´d to ad \pdfdest[fit] in my *.tex doc but that didn´t work >ether. What happens if you launch the document full screen? \setupinteraction[state=start] \setupinteractionscreen[option=max] Maybe it helps when you turn off the font cache (preferences). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Jun-2000 18:53:14-GMT,1445;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26824 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:53:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12036 for pdftex-list; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:46:23 -0400 Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12033 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:46:05 -0400 Received: from rudeboy (pool0511.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.194.1]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA23778 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004401bfd627$8c2d2260$2647fea9@rudeboy> From: "Vladimir Dubal" <dubal@compuserve.com> To: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: backgroundcolor Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:39:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I would like to change the backgroundcolor on one page of my document using pdftex. &_is there an easy way to hyperlink the pagenumbers in the table-of-contents instead of just the sections. thanks for any help, Vladimir 27-Jun-2000 22:11:19-GMT,1257;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01738 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:11:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13058 for pdftex-list; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 02:30:11 -0400 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13053 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 02:29:57 -0400 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5F7X7808996; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:33:07 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:33:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Esser <te@informatik.uni-hannover.de> Message-Id: <200006150733.e5F7X7808996@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: Quy@linuxbe.org, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex - ghostscript Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > $ dvips -Ppdf -o test3.ps test.dvi This is ok as long as you restrict yourself to Computer Modern fonts. Otherwise, use dvips -Ppdf -G0 -o test3.ps test.dvi Character shifting does not (yet) work with all kinds of fonts... Look at the comments in config.pdf. Thomas 27-Jun-2000 22:17:24-GMT,2507;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01889 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:17:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA15989 for pdftex-list; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:05:45 -0400 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15986 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:05:32 -0400 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc10.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.200]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12110 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 04:09:07 +0200 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03677 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:16:19 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:16:19 +0200 (MEST) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" <kla@fh-landshut.de> X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: bookmarks in seminar, sound Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10006152014310.3648-100000@INET.anae.kla.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thanks a lot for the hint towards fixseminar.sty! Using this package I can finally use seminar in pdftex! (and that without being a programmer;-) Well, yes, according to the Listarchive (http://tug.org/ListArchives/pdftex/threads.html) this has been asked before: How could I produce bookmarks in a slide package like seminar, that contains no \section command or similar ? Neither at tug.org nor at CTAN could I find the recommended article by H. Overdiek: www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/hyperdoc.zip \addcontentsline{toc}{section}{any comment} worked in tetex, but no longer as soon as I included \usepackage{hyperref} and not in pdftex. \pdfbookmark{}{}{} didn't work either, maybe because I cannot figure out, what the arguments are. (It writes something to the out-file, but the bookmark is not linked.) It can't be that difficult, can it ? I also beg your pardon for reiterating that question about including sound in pdftex, that has been asked a few times before in this list: bundled with samplepdf.tex I found the file "sound.pdf", that works perfectly in Win98, but I can't get to work the \pdfannot examples in samplepdf.tex. Is there a way to get it to work without learning ConText (still to complex for me) ? Thanks for any help, H. Betz 27-Jun-2000 23:17:54-GMT,2141;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03464 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:17:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA18775 for pdftex-list; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:03:46 -0400 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18772 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:03:32 -0400 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc22.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.212]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21220 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:07:13 +0200 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09112 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:26:53 +0200 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:26:53 +0200 (MEST) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" <kla@fh-landshut.de> X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: MP3 sound in pdftex or bookmarks Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10006171225020.9108-100000@INET.anae.kla.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thanks a lot for the hint towards "fixseminar.sty" which makes it painlessly possible to use seminar with pdftex! In paper.pdf I found finally the excellent description by H. Overdiek on how to create bookmarks, but I cannot figure out, how to include a sound file (WAV or still better MP3), which would serve me as spoken comments for the slides. The wav File link in the following example doesn't work under Win98 or Linux: \documentclass[a4,landscape,pdftex]{seminar} \usepackage[pdftex,bookmarks=true]{hyperref} \usepackage{fixseminar} \pdfoutline user {<< /S /GoToR /F (slide8.pdf) /D [5 /Fit] >>} count 0 {another file} \pdfoutline user { /Subtype /Sound /Sound << /F (test.wav) >>} count 0 {Soundtrack} \pdfpagewidth=11.69truein \pdfpageheight=8.26truein \begin{document} \begin{slide} \pdfbookmark[1]{Slide one}{sl1} ... Thanks for any reply to my persistent questioning, H.Betz 28-Jun-2000 0:16:55-GMT,2181;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04761 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:16:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22260 for pdftex-list; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:53:39 -0400 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22257 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:53:24 -0400 Received: from utinam.univ-fcomte.fr (utinam.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.201]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA24342 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:58:14 +0100 (WET DST) Received: from halebopp2 (ppp14.univ-fcomte.fr [193.55.66.14]) by utinam.univ-fcomte.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA01082 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:53:47 +0100 (WET DST) Message-Id: <200006192053.VAA01082@utinam.univ-fcomte.fr> X-Sender: petiard@erdos.univ-fcomte.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:55:00 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Fran=E7ois?= <petiard@math.univ-fcomte.fr> Subject: pdftex.def References: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10006122002120.26215-100000@INET.anae.kla.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id OAA22258 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello ! When I search for pdftex.def on CTAN (DANTE), I find two items: 2000/01/11 | 8866 | macros/latex/required/graphics/pdftex.def 1999/09/13 | 9923 | macros/pdftex/graphics/pdftex.def The first file begins by: \ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[1999/01/26 v0.02l graphics/color for pdftex] The second file begins by: \ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[1999/10/13 v0.02r graphics/color for pdftex] and on tug.org: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def the file begins by: \ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[2000/05/31 v0.02v graphics/color for pdftex] Why these files are different ? F. Pétiard -- Pétiard François Courriel : petiard@math.univ-fcomte.fr 28-Jun-2000 1:20:59-GMT,4511;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06021 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:20:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21766 for pdftex-list; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:20:36 -0400 Received: from k3.core.aeccom.com (IDENT:root@gate1.aeccom.com [193.158.80.174]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21763 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:20:23 -0400 Received: from ampato.core.aeccom.com (IDENT:root@ampato.core.aeccom.com [192.168.0.11]) by k3.core.aeccom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06683 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:23:53 +0200 Received: (from lutzeb@localhost) by ampato.core.aeccom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19576; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:25:31 +0200 From: Dirk Lutzebaeck <lutzeb@aeccom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14670.4411.71375.820414@ampato.core.aeccom.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:25:31 +0200 (CEST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: texexec --pdfarrange: fonts not compressed? X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, When I'm using texexec (1.6) with the --pdfarrange option it looks like fonts are not being compressed resulting to a severe increase of the file size. I'm using pdftex 0.14f. Here is a sample log: % texexec --pdfarrange LB TeXExec 1.6 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-1999 backspace : 0pt topspace : 0pt paperoffset : 0pt empty pages added : none textwidth : unknown duplex : on ID! Not yet implemented :-( LB.pdf has 8 pages pdffile : LB.pdf number of pages : 8 executable : pdfetex format : cont-en inputfile : texexec output : pdftex interface : en options : once current mode : all This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.2x) entering extended mode (texexec.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} ConTeXt ver: 1999.9.30 fmt: 2000.6.16 int: english mes: english language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex! ) system : cont-old loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex loading : Context Old Macros ) system : cont-fil loaded (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex loading : Context File Synonyms ) bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded system : cont-opt loaded (./cont-opt.tex specials : tex,postscript,rokicki is reset specials : loading definition file tpd (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex <unprotect 2> specials : loading definition file fdf (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex <unprotect 3> <unprotect 4> <protect 4> <protect 3>) specials : fdf loaded <unprotect 3> <protect 3> <protect 2>) specials : fdf,tpd loaded ) (pdf image page page 1) <./LB.pdf> figures : dimensions of ./LB.pdf loaded from figurefile itself [1.1] (pdf image page page 2) <./LB.pdf> figures : dimensions of ./LB.pdf loaded from figurefile itself [2.2] (pdf image page page 3) <./LB.pdf> figures : dimensions of ./LB.pdf loaded from figurefile itself [3.3] (pdf image page page 4) <./LB.pdf> figures : dimensions of ./LB.pdf loaded from figurefile itself [4.4] (pdf image page page 5) <./LB.pdf> figures : dimensions of ./LB.pdf loaded from figurefile itself [5.5] (pdf image page page 6) <./LB.pdf> figures : dimensions of ./LB.pdf loaded from figurefile itself [6.6] (pdf image page page 7) <./LB.pdf> figures : dimensions of ./LB.pdf loaded from figurefile itself [7.7] (pdf image page page 8) <./LB.pdf> figures : dimensions of ./LB.pdf loaded from figurefile itself [8.8] systems : end file texexec at line 16 ) Output written on texexec.pdf (8 pages, 110235 bytes). Transcript written on texexec.log. run time : 2 seconds % ls -l LB.pdf texexec.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 30656 Jun 16 14:19 LB.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 110235 Jun 19 14:20 texexec.pdf LB.pdf is produced from Acrobat 4.0. Dirk 28-Jun-2000 1:22:59-GMT,1721;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06090 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:22:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA23842 for pdftex-list; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:29:56 -0400 Received: from host.iinte.edu.pl (host.iinte.edu.pl [157.25.178.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA23839 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:29:15 -0400 Received: from Stas98 ([157.25.180.229]) by host.iinte.edu.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23559 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:35:39 +0200 Message-ID: <010e01bfdaa3$63981960$e5b4199d@Stas98.iinte.edu.pl> From: "Stanislaw Romanski" <romanski@iinte.edu.pl> To: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: list archive Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:36:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, When I send a query get pdftex 2000.05.gz to majordomo@tug,org there comes a letter with binary (gz) content of the file plus some header (file is NOT attached). It is rather not usable (I think). Even if the header is skipped and the rest starts from ASCII-31, ASCII-139, winzip, unzip, gzip etc. can not read it (probably some binary characters are corrupted while loaded into a letter) Any idea how to get readable form of pdftex-list may archive ? I use Win'98. Stanislaw Romanski 28-Jun-2000 1:24:21-GMT,2241;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06116 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:24:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA21381 for pdftex-list; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 03:42:30 -0400 Received: from kuma.upv.es (kuma.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA21378 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 03:42:17 -0400 Received: from vega.upv.es (vega.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.1]) by kuma.upv.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25418 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:45:45 +0200 Received: from dihma.upv.es (casiopea.dihma.upv.es [158.42.64.29]) by vega.upv.es (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16316 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:45:44 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <394DDE8A.34592457@dihma.upv.es> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:49:14 +0200 From: Eduardo Cassiraga <efc@dihma.upv.es> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Font question. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Friends: I am trying to compile a presentations with pdftex and program give me the follow warning message: [1 {pdftex.map}] LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for U+msa on input line 63. (c:\texmf\tex\latex\amsfonts\umsa.fd File: umsa.fd 1995/01/05 v2.2e AMS font definitions ) LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `U/msa/m/n' in size <29.86> not available (Font) size <24.88> substituted on input line 63. LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for U+msb on input line 63. (c:\texmf\tex\latex\amsfonts\umsb.fd File: umsb.fd 1995/01/05 v2.2e AMS font definitions ) LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `U/msb/m/n' in size <29.86> not available (Font) size <24.88> substituted on input line 63. How can I solve this problem? Thanks in advance. -- Eduardo F. Cassiraga Departamento de Ingeniería Hidráulica y Medio Ambiente Universidad Politécnica de Valencia C/. Camino de Vera, s/n 46071 Valencia - SPAIN tel. +34 96 387 9613 fax +34 96 387 7618 email: efc@dihma.upv.es 28-Jun-2000 1:26:48-GMT,2960;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06163 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:26:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA21596 for pdftex-list; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:51:04 -0400 Received: from kuma.upv.es (kuma.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21593 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:50:49 -0400 Received: from vega.upv.es (vega.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.1]) by kuma.upv.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30449 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:54:18 +0200 Received: from dihma.upv.es (casiopea.dihma.upv.es [158.42.64.29]) by vega.upv.es (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02437 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:54:17 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <394E0ABE.CC19AB44@dihma.upv.es> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:57:50 +0200 From: Eduardo Cassiraga <efc@dihma.upv.es> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Font problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear friends: I am trying to compile a presentations with pdftex and program give me the follow warning message: LaTeX Font Warning: Size substitutions with differences (Font) up to 4.98pt have occured. ) ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.12} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.11} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.10} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.9} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.8} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.7} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.6} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.5} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.4} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.3} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.2} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one <cmmi10.pfb><cmti10.pfb><cmr10.pfb><cmsy10.pfb><msam10.pfb><cmss10.pfb><cmssbx1 0.pfb> How can I solve this problem? Thanks in advance. -- Eduardo F. Cassiraga Departamento de Ingeniería Hidráulica y Medio Ambiente Universidad Politécnica de Valencia C/. Camino de Vera, s/n 46071 Valencia - SPAIN tel. +34 96 387 9613 fax +34 96 387 7618 email: efc@dihma.upv.es 28-Jun-2000 2:32:40-GMT,1845;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA07487 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:32:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27628 for pdftex-list; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:35:53 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (vmailer@sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27621 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:35:40 -0400 From: piet@cs.uu.nl Received: from XLOO (xloo.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.152]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC3F451C for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:39:20 +0200 (MET DST) To: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: Upgrading to pdftex 14f References: <20000612123052.A2081@localhost.localdomain> <393B74C2.157FE036@softax.com.pl> <14651.44818.377974.791759@localhost.localdomain> <20000611154806.A1936@redwoodscientific.com> <14660.39783.977564.36311@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20000612123052.A2081@localhost.localdomain> <3.0.1.16.20000613075350.08cf3c82@localhost> Date: 22 Jun 2000 16:39:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: Heiko Oberdiek's message of "Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:53:50 +0200" Message-ID: <uhfaln5ji.fsf@cs.uu.nl> Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I installed the pdftex 14f (snapshot 20000525) as described in the README file on a Solaris system. However when pdftex'ing the samplepdf.tex I get a Segmentation fault. This happens after reading the map files; it then waits some time and dumps core. This doesn't happen with 14e. pdflatex'ing a simple text document works. -- Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.uu.nl> URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: P.van.Oostrum@hccnet.nl 28-Jun-2000 2:55:42-GMT,2305;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA07893 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:55:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22920 for pdftex-list; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:16:27 -0400 Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (root@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu [128.46.109.85]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22917 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:16:15 -0400 Received: from ecn.purdue.edu (hersh.nserl.purdue.edu [128.210.150.223]) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3moyman) with ESMTP id TAA14771 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:19:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <394EB875.7F785EB@ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:19:01 -0500 From: Frederic Darboux <darboux@ecn.purdue.edu> Organization: NSERL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Problem with graphic inclusion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I have just started to use PdfTeX a few days ago and I am unable to include correctly a graphic. This is probably very easy, but, well, not for me those days... Here is the file I try to process (rather simple, isn't it). \documentclass{report} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} \includegraphics{optics2.png} \includegraphics{optics2.jpg} \includegraphics{optics2.pdf} \end{document} In the resulting pdf file, the png and jpg graphics are not displayed correctly : they are squizzed vertically. the pdf graphic has the correct geometry but not the right colors... I am running the PdfTeX version 3.14159-13d under MS-Windows98 (the one included in TeX Live 5) and the files were created with convert (ImageMagick). I have just downloaded the last version of pdftex.def. No way... So, what's the easy trick ? Thanks Frederic Darboux ....................................................... National Soil Erosion Research Laboratory 1196 SOIL Building Purdue University West Lafayette, Indiana, 47907-1196 USA Ph: (765) 494-6645 Fax: (765) 494-5948 Email: darboux@ecn.purdue.edu Web: <http://topsoil.nserl.purdue.edu/nserlweb/> 28-Jun-2000 3:19:04-GMT,2240;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08398 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:19:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA01659 for pdftex-list; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:43:00 -0400 Received: from kuma.upv.es (kuma.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01655 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:42:46 -0400 Received: from vega.upv.es (vega.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.1]) by kuma.upv.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21382 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:46:35 +0200 Received: from dihma.upv.es (casiopea.dihma.upv.es [158.42.64.29]) by vega.upv.es (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20551 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:46:34 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <3957437E.7FA5C101@dihma.upv.es> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:50:22 +0200 From: Eduardo Cassiraga <efc@dihma.upv.es> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Font problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Friends: I am trying to compile a presentations with pdftex and program give me the follow warning message: [1 {pdftex.map}] LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for U+msa on input line 63. (c:\texmf\tex\latex\amsfonts\umsa.fd File: umsa.fd 1995/01/05 v2.2e AMS font definitions ) LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `U/msa/m/n' in size <29.86> not available (Font) size <24.88> substituted on input line 63. LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for U+msb on input line 63. (c:\texmf\tex\latex\amsfonts\umsb.fd File: umsb.fd 1995/01/05 v2.2e AMS font definitions ) LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `U/msb/m/n' in size <29.86> not available (Font) size <24.88> substituted on input line 63. How can I solve this problem? Thanks in advance. -- Eduardo F. Cassiraga Departamento de Ingeniería Hidráulica y Medio Ambiente Universidad Politécnica de Valencia C/. Camino de Vera, s/n 46071 Valencia - SPAIN tel. +34 96 387 9613 fax +34 96 387 7618 email: efc@dihma.upv.es 28-Jun-2000 3:41:15-GMT,2743;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08787 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:41:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA01652 for pdftex-list; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:42:28 -0400 Received: from kuma.upv.es (kuma.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01649 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:42:12 -0400 Received: from vega.upv.es (vega.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.1]) by kuma.upv.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21243 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:45:58 +0200 Received: from dihma.upv.es (casiopea.dihma.upv.es [158.42.64.29]) by vega.upv.es (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20231 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:45:52 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <39574350.745629C@dihma.upv.es> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:49:36 +0200 From: Eduardo Cassiraga <efc@dihma.upv.es> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Font problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear friends: I am trying to compile a presentations with pdftex and program give me the follow warning message: LaTeX Font Warning: Size substitutions with differences (Font) up to 4.98pt have occured. ) ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.12} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.11} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.10} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.9} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.8} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.7} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.6} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.5} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.4} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.3} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.2} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one <cmmi10.pfb><cmti10.pfb><cmr10.pfb><cmsy10.pfb><msam10.pfb><cmss10.pfb><cmssbx1 0.pfb> How can I solve this problem? Thanks in advance. Eduardo Cassiraga 28-Jun-2000 3:55:39-GMT,4034;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09072 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:55:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04499 for pdftex-list; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:35:05 -0400 Received: from upaya.multiverse.com (IDENT:root@upaya.multiverse.com [207.170.161.193]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04496 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:34:53 -0400 From: junger@upaya.multiverse.com Received: from upaya.multiverse.com (IDENT:junger@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by upaya.multiverse.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06721; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:35:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200006261935.PAA06721@upaya.multiverse.com> To: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> cc: "Peter D. Junger" <junger@upaya.multiverse.com>, "Peter D. Junger" <junger@samsara.law.cwru.edu> Subject: linking footnote to the footnotemark Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:35:35 -0400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am using pdflatex and hyperlatex writing a law review article with lots of footnotes. Using the \label and \ref commands it is, of course, easy to create a link to footnote, but there does not seem to be any builtin way to get from a footnote to the text containing the call to the footnote. It is, however, very often in legal articles to find a reference of the form: ``See supra text accompanying Note nn.'' One can make a link to footnote nn, but how can one make a link to the part of the text where footnote nn is called? I cannot think of anyway of easily doing that directly, but I was able to come up with a way by which one could go from the reference to the footnote and then following a link at the beginning of the footnote to to the place where the note is called. Here are the macros I wrote to be able to do that. (These only work when the footnote symbol is an arabic number and they do not check for multiple footnotes with the same number.) \newcounter{targetcount} \newcounter{linkcount} \newcommand{\settarget}{\setcounter{targetcount}{1+\value{footnote}}} \newcommand{\setlink}{\setcounter{linkcount}{0+\value{footnote}}} \newcommand{\targetnote}{\settarget\hypertarget {Note.\thetargetcount}{}} \newcommand{\linknote}{\setlink \hyperlink {Note.\thelinkcount}{~}} \newcommand{\linkedfn}[1] {\targetnote\footnote{\linknote #1}} Having made the effort, I now feel free to ask whether I have re-invented the wheel? There is still one slight problem with these macros. The link to the text is not, as I would like, the footnote number; rather it is the space following the footnote number---a space that does not appear in the normal output of a footnote. (I rather like the way this extra space looks in hard copy, so the space itself is not really a problem so far as I am concerned.) It seems to me that it would be preferable to have the link be the footnote number itself (and perhaps an additional space if desired). But to implement that, it would seem that I would have to modify the definition of the \footnote command (or at least modify one or more of the commands used within the \footnote command) so that my new \linknote command is inserted so that it takes the command that produces the footnote number as its argument. I am not sure that I want to make this modification, but I will probably do it, if it is not too much work. My trouble now is that I do not know anything about the code for the \footnote command, and do not even know if pdflatex has its own special \footnote command, or whether I will have to look at the code of the definition of the \footnote command in the appropriate documentclass. Perhaps someone can tell me where to look? Thanks. -- Peter D. Junger--Case Western Reserve University Law School--Cleveland, OH EMAIL: junger@samsara.law.cwru.edu URL: http://samsara.law.cwru.edu NOTE: junger@pdj2-ra.f-remote.cwru.edu no longer exists 28-Jun-2000 5:45:27-GMT,2386;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA11184 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:45:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02018 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:40:09 -0400 Received: from mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (root@mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02015 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:40:06 -0400 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA12321; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:38:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA13652; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:37:42 +0200 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA17076; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:37:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14681.36645.735685.925018@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:37:41 +0200 (MET DST) To: Eduardo Cassiraga <efc@dihma.upv.es> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Font problems In-Reply-To: <394E0ABE.CC19AB44@dihma.upv.es> References: <394E0ABE.CC19AB44@dihma.upv.es> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Eduardo Cassiraga writes: > I am trying to compile a presentations with pdftex and program give me the > follow warning message: > ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{first.12} has been referenced but does not exist, > replaced by a fixed one This is a problem using the beta version of PPower4. It is discussed in the corresponding manual. Stay tuned for the next update - and better ask these questions on the PPower4 mailing list. Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt 28-Jun-2000 7:01:08-GMT,2032;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12964 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:01:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA02115 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:51:46 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02112 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:51:44 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id IAA04946 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:55:07 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200006280655.IAA25901@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id IAA25901; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:55:06 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:55:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Subject: Re: backgroundcolor To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 8TRhC6FNrBBk06E0df2UfA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "Vladimir Dubal" wrote on Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:39:47 -0700: > > I would like to change the backgroundcolor on one page of my document using pdftex. If you're using the color package and a new pdftex.def http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def you can say \pagecolor as often as you want. > &_is there an easy way to hyperlink the pagenumbers in the table-of-contents instead of just > the sections. hyperref has an option linktocpage for this. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 28-Jun-2000 7:16:17-GMT,1713;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13304 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA02170 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:10:34 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA02166 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:10:30 -0400 Received: from remote142-5.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.5] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 137C2g-0001V2-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:13:50 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000628090723.090f251c@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:07:23 +0200 To: Frederic Darboux <darboux@ecn.purdue.edu>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: Problem with graphic inclusion In-Reply-To: <394EB875.7F785EB@ecn.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 19:19 19.06.2000 -0500, Frederic Darboux wrote: >In the resulting pdf file, the png and jpg graphics are not displayed >correctly : they are squizzed vertically. the pdf graphic has the >correct geometry but not the right colors... > >I am running the PdfTeX version 3.14159-13d under MS-Windows98 (the one >included in TeX Live 5) and the files were created with convert 13d is rather old and not included in TeX Live 5. Try out an uptodate version first. Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 28-Jun-2000 7:16:18-GMT,2897;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13305 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA02155 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:10:27 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA02152 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:10:25 -0400 Received: from remote142-5.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.5] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 137C2b-0001V2-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:13:45 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000628085416.4447748e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:54:16 +0200 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Fran=E7ois?= <petiard@math.univ-fcomte.fr>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: pdftex.def In-Reply-To: <200006192053.VAA01082@utinam.univ-fcomte.fr> References: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10006122002120.26215-100000@INET.anae.kla.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id CAA02153 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 21:55 19.06.2000 +0200, Pétiard François wrote: >Hello ! > >When I search for pdftex.def on CTAN (DANTE), I find two items: > >2000/01/11 | 8866 | macros/latex/required/graphics/pdftex.def >1999/09/13 | 9923 | macros/pdftex/graphics/pdftex.def > >The first file begins by: >\ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[1999/01/26 v0.02l graphics/color for pdftex] > >The second file begins by: >\ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[1999/10/13 v0.02r graphics/color for pdftex] > >and on tug.org: >http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def > >the file begins by: >\ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[2000/05/31 v0.02v graphics/color for pdftex] > > >Why these files are different ? Historical reasons. Some time ago, I informed the CTAN mantainers to update the macros/pdftex/graphics location (0.02r). Because of revision control systems it was not possible to update the old file (0.02l) in the LaTeX location. Then I have added some features (pagecolor, page selection of pdf graphics, ...). For testing reasons only the tug location is updated (0.02v). Now it is time for the new LaTeX release (June 2000) and David has informed me, that he has put in the new pdftex.def, so that the next LaTeX release will have the correct pdftex.def. Before informing the CTAN mantainers to update the macros/pdftex/graphics location, I am currently waiting for the next LaTeX release. If you want to update your pdftex.def, use the tug location. Regards Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 28-Jun-2000 7:16:20-GMT,1722;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13311 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:16:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA02169 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:10:31 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA02160 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:10:28 -0400 Received: from remote142-5.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.5] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 137C2d-0001V2-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:13:47 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000628085634.4447e30a@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:56:34 +0200 To: "Vladimir Dubal" <dubal@compuserve.com>, <pdftex@tug.org> From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: backgroundcolor In-Reply-To: <004401bfd627$8c2d2260$2647fea9@rudeboy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:39 14.06.2000 -0700, Vladimir Dubal wrote: >I would like to change the backgroundcolor on one page of my document using pdftex. \pagecolor of graphicx package. But you need an uptodate pdftex.def: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def (0.02v) >&_is there an easy way to hyperlink the pagenumbers in the table-of-contents instead of just >the sections. hyperref's option 'linktocpage' will make the pagenumbers to hyperlinks instead of the section titles. Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 28-Jun-2000 7:16:34-GMT,1564;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13316 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:16:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA02165 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:10:30 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA02157 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:10:28 -0400 Received: from remote142-5.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.5] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 137C2e-0001V2-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:13:49 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000628085828.4447986c@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:58:28 +0200 To: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" <kla@fh-landshut.de>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: bookmarks in seminar, sound In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10006152014310.3648-100000@INET.anae.kla.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 20:16 15.06.2000 +0200, Verwalter Dr.Betz wrote: >Neither at tug.org nor at CTAN could I find the recommended article >by H. Overdiek: www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/hyperdoc.zip It is in the 'doc' subdirectory of hyperref or in http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperdoc.zip Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 28-Jun-2000 8:43:40-GMT,2129;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA14935 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:43:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA02389 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:33:46 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA02386 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:33:44 -0400 Received: from remote142-157.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.157] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 137DLB-00038I-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:37:02 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000628103536.307f2916@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:35:36 +0200 To: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" <kla@fh-landshut.de>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: MP3 sound in pdftex or bookmarks In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10006171225020.9108-100000@INET.anae.kla.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:26 17.06.2000 +0200, Verwalter Dr.Betz wrote: >In paper.pdf I found finally the excellent description by H. Overdiek >on how to create bookmarks, but I cannot figure out, how to >include a sound file (WAV or still better MP3), >\pdfoutline >user { /Subtype /Sound /Sound << /F (test.wav) >>} >count 0 {Soundtrack} a) Sound action (wav, I doubt, that mp3 will work with this method): % This creates a sound stream object that refers to an % external file: \immediate\pdfobj stream attr{% /Type /Sound% /F (test.wav)% }{} % The bookmark with sound action: \pdfoutline user{% <<% /Type /Action% /S /Sound% /Sound \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R% >>% }{Soundtrack via sound action} b) Launch action: \pdfoutline user{% <<% /Type /Action% /S /Launch% /F (klingeln.wav)% >>% }{Soundtrack via launch action} Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 28-Jun-2000 8:49:40-GMT,1721;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15052 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:49:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA02403 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:37:35 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA02400 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:37:33 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 137DOy-00079F-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:40:56 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 137DOz-0002yp-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:40:57 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14681.47643.990398.47813@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:40:59 +0100 (BST) To: darboux@ecn.purdue.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with graphic inclusion In-Reply-To: <394EB875.7F785EB@ecn.purdue.edu> References: <394EB875.7F785EB@ecn.purdue.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Frederic Darboux writes: > I am running the PdfTeX version 3.14159-13d under MS-Windows98 (the one > included in TeX Live 5) and the files were created with convert > (ImageMagick). TeX Live 5 has pdftex 3.14159-14f-released-20000525. if you really have 13d, you need to upgrade sebastian 28-Jun-2000 10:02:49-GMT,1785;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16392 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:02:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA02561 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:47:38 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA02558 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:47:36 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 137EUl-0006sD-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:50:59 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 137EUm-0004TE-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:51:00 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14681.51846.799682.827015@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:51:02 +0100 (BST) To: oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Cc: petiard@math.univ-fcomte.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex.def In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000628085416.4447748e@localhost> References: <Pine.LNX.4.05.10006122002120.26215-100000@INET.anae.kla.de> <3.0.1.16.20000628085416.4447748e@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek writes: > Before informing the CTAN mantainers to update the > macros/pdftex/graphics location, I am currently waiting for the > next LaTeX release. > actually, i just asked Robin to update macros/pdftex/graphics anyway..... Sebastian 28-Jun-2000 10:05:33-GMT,1526;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16465 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:05:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA02587 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:57:09 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA02584 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:57:05 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id MAA14394; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:00:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id MAA27903; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:00:24 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:00:24 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200006281000.MAA27903@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche <Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: Eduardo Cassiraga <efc@dihma.upv.es> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Font question. In-Reply-To: <394DDE8A.34592457@dihma.upv.es> References: <394DDE8A.34592457@dihma.upv.es> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » How can I solve this problem? nothing related to pdftex: use the psamsfont option to ams classes. 29-Jun-2000 17:11:02-GMT,1613;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26478 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:10:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06037 for pdftex-list; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:26:30 -0400 Received: from aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be [139.165.32.133]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06034 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:26:25 -0400 Received: from iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be (IDENT:root@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be [139.165.121.43]) by aix10.segi.ulg.ac.be (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA76586 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:26:25 +0200 Received: (from quy@localhost) by iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/Nguyen-Dai Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org>) id PAA01690 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:29:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:29:42 +0200 From: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> To: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: update pdftex for miktex ? Message-ID: <20000629152942.A1672@iris.ltas.ulg.ac.be> Reply-To: Quy <Quy@linuxbe.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Organization: LTAS-ULG X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.12 RedHat-6.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a PC running Win95 with mikTeX 1.20e. The updated pdftex of mikTeX is only 20000217. I would like to update to 0.14f release but I don't know where I can found binary package and how to do that :-) Under Linux with teTeX, I can do that without any prob, but with mikTeX :-( Thanks in advance, Q. 30-Jun-2000 8:41:22-GMT,2470;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16669 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:41:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA07209 for pdftex-list; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:06:00 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07206 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:05:58 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23692; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:09:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26845; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:09:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh <thanh@informatics.muni.cz> Message-Id: <200006300809.KAA26845@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: boundary char and implicit kerns To: fontinst@cogs.susx.ac.uk (fontinst list), pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:09:24 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, I sent the following question to tex-implementors list, but didn't get any answer yet. In case anyone know the answer, I would be much appreciated. ----- Forwarded message from thanh ----- Dear TeX implementors, does anyone know why implicit kern is not treated as discardable? Under which circumstances an implicit kern can end up that the beginning or the end of a line after breaking a paragraph into lines? It seems to me that it can happen for kerns with the boundary char. Is this the only case when it may happen? Thanks in advance for the answers, Thanh ----- End of forwarded message from thanh ----- In particular, I found quite unfortunate that when using a font containings kerns with the boundary char, character protruding (ie marginal kerning) stops to work for certain characters. These characters are preceded/followed by an implicit kern with the boundary char, which is not discardable. For example, the period or comma char are not protruded if there one has in an afm something like: KPX period space 118 KPX comma space 118 and space is set as the right boundary character. So now the question is: should implicit kerns be treated as non-discardable? Regards, Thanh 30-Jun-2000 12:59:08-GMT,1790;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21297 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:59:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA07860 for pdftex-list; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:24:30 -0400 Received: from tmpil001.tmp.allied.com (tmpil001.tmp.allied.com [198.80.19.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA07857 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:24:27 -0400 Received: from tmpnt701.allied.com (alliedsignal.com) by tmpil001.tmp.allied.com with SMTP id FAA03144 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for <pdftex@tug.org>); Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:27:58 -0700 Received: from 165.195.14.21 by tmpnt701.allied.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:23:58 -0700 Received: by sophb201.europe.allied.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <N68Q917K>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:27:44 +0200 Message-Id: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F8369@GNNEX221> From: "Tourte, Gregory" <Gregory.TOURTE@honeywell.com> To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: new member! Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:27:18 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, I am a newbie to this list so bare with me and point me to the right direction if I have subscribe to the wrong list!:-) I am starting to use LaTeX and pdftex and find it absolutely great but I have some problem as a user to change some of the default settings, especially the way links appear on screen (is it possible to to have links -in the whole document- in a coloured font or underline instead of in a coloured box? and how?). thanks for you help! once again if I got the wrong list, tell me! Greg Tourte 30-Jun-2000 16:49:19-GMT,2801;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26907 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:49:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08276 for pdftex-list; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:13:48 -0400 Received: from kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08273 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:13:46 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA02321; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:18:25 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:18:25 +0200 Message-Id: <200006301618.SAA02321@kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Tourte, Gregory" <Gregory.TOURTE@honeywell.com> Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: new member! In-Reply-To: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F8369@GNNEX221> References: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F8369@GNNEX221> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Tourte," == Tourte, Gregory <Gregory.TOURTE@honeywell.com> writes: > [...] > I am starting to use LaTeX and pdftex and find it absolutely > great but I have some problem as a user to change some of the > default settings, especially the way links appear on screen (is > it possible to to have links -in the whole document- in a > coloured font or underline instead of in a coloured box? and > how?). You can use \usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref} to get colored links. If you want to send your file to a b/w printer, the colors are converted to graylevels which looks ugly (at least) at low resolutions. It's better then to stay with the defaults. The boxes appear on the screen only, not on the paper. For more information look at manual.pdf in the hyperref directory. If you are a beginner and have teTeX I recommand you to install texdoctk, a TeX documentation browser. Look at http://www.geophysik.uni-frankfurt.de/~ruedas/progs.html Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Jul-2000 15:51:02-GMT,2023;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10681 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:51:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13936 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:15:06 -0400 Received: from cdfpc24.in2p3.fr (cdfpc24.in2p3.fr [193.48.105.186]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13933 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:15:03 -0400 From: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr Received: from localhost (frenkiel@localhost) by cdfpc24.in2p3.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06046 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:18:46 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: cdfpc24.in2p3.fr: frenkiel owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:18:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Sender: frenkiel@cdfpc24.in2p3.fr To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: graphic include Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007031714290.5947-100000@cdfpc24.in2p3.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I hope this will not be considered as a trivial question: I get the following message for each line with an epsfig include: ================================================================== ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .ps. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H <return> for immediate help. ... l.35 ...g{file=ctrl_f1.ps,width=5cm,height=50mm}} ================================================================== latex itself works perfectly, with the same tex file. -- Pierre Frenkiel e-mail: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr Physique Corpusculaire et Cosmologie tel: 01.44.27.15.27 Collège de France tel mobile: 06.68.14.73.64 11 pl. Marcelin Berthelot / F-75231 Paris Cedex 5 fax: 01.43.54.69.89 3-Jul-2000 21:29:10-GMT,2264;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18220 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:29:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14426 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:55:06 -0400 Received: from mrs-1.smartworld.net (mrs-1-fix.smartworld.net [216.70.64.24]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14423 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:55:04 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (1Cust143.tnt28.lax3.da.uu.net [63.36.66.143]) by mrs-1.smartworld.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA97748 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3960C4F8.153226@csee.usf.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 09:53:12 -0700 From: "Himanshu J. Gohel" <gohel@csee.usf.edu> Reply-To: gohel@csee.usf.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Upgrading to pdftex 14f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've had a working setup of teTeX 1.0.6 with pdftex 0.13d and just upgraded to 0.14f. OS is SGI IRIX 6.5.8m. I configured and made pdftex, but that did not generate pdfetex. 'make pdfetex' tells me it's not a valid target. Is it simply a matter of renaming pdftex to pdfetex? Second issue is that I get these messages: {/usr/freeware/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map Warning: pdflatex (file /usr/freeware/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbot8rn': too big value of ExtendFont (850) [...repeated for various fonts...] So I looked up a thread on the pdfTeX archives that says I should update my pdftex.map file. However, the pdftex.map file from teTeX 1.0.6 has this message in it: % pdftex.map: maintained by the script updmap in $TEXMFMAIN/dvips/config. % The preferred way to add things to this file is to put the extra lines % into a separate file and add that filename to the updmap script. Then, % run the updmap script to recreate this file. So the question is what should I do and which files should I update? Thanks, -- Himanshu Gohel, mailto:gohel@csee.usf.edu 3-Jul-2000 20:09:49-GMT,1937;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16490 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:09:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14317 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:34:54 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14314 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:34:48 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 139C34-0004Gm-00; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 20:38:30 +0100 Received: from max54.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.54] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 139C33-00078d-00; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 20:38:29 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14688.63823.720920.280961@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:36:31 +0100 (BST) To: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: graphic include In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007031714290.5947-100000@cdfpc24.in2p3.fr> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007031714290.5947-100000@cdfpc24.in2p3.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr writes: > I hope this will not be considered as a trivial question: > > I get the following message for each line with an epsfig include: > > ================================================================== > ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .ps. well, it is a trivial question, I am afraid. pdftex does not support inclusiom of PostScript graphics, as all the documentation explains. Sebastian 3-Jul-2000 20:09:52-GMT,2929;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16496 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:09:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14322 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:35:30 -0400 Received: from kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14319 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 14:35:28 -0400 Received: from milliways.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@milliways.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.56]) by kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA18021; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:39:09 +0200 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:39:08 +0200 Message-Id: <200007031939.VAA18021@kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha <reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: graphic include In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007031714290.5947-100000@cdfpc24.in2p3.fr> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007031714290.5947-100000@cdfpc24.in2p3.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "pierre" == pierre frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr> writes: > I hope this will not be considered as a trivial question: It is at least the most frequenly asked question on this list. > I get the following message for each line with an epsfig include: > ================================================================== > ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .ps. > See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H > <return> for immediate help. ... > l.35 ...g{file=ctrl_f1.ps,width=5cm,height=50mm}} > ================================================================== Convert the file to pdf using epstopdf. Then \usepackage{graphicx} ... \includegraphics[width=5cm,height=50mm]{ctrl_f1}% NO Extension. LaTeX then loads ctrl_f1.ps, pdfLaTeX ctrl_f1.pdf. BTW., epsfig is a wrapper for compatibility with an old macro package, the graphicx package is much nicer. Look at .../texmf/doc/latex/graphics/grfguide.ps for more information. > latex itself works perfectly, with the same tex file. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Jul-2000 13:08:41-GMT,1493;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05620 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 07:08:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16108 for pdftex-list; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 07:27:01 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16105 for <pdftex@www.tug.org>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 07:26:59 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 139Rqg-00067s-00 for pdftex@www.tug.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 13:30:46 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 139Rqg-00000i-00 for pdftex@www.tug.org; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:30:46 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14689.55547.127509.412189@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:30:51 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: FAQ updated X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The pdftex FAQ at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex has been updated by C V Radhakrishnan. Please check it out before you ask a question ...... Sebastian 4-Jul-2000 17:27:13-GMT,1705;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10116 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:27:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16637 for pdftex-list; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:53:26 -0400 Received: from kuma.upv.es (kuma.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16634 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:53:23 -0400 Received: from vega.upv.es (vega.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.1]) by kuma.upv.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10054 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:57:06 +0200 Received: from dihma.upv.es (casiopea.dihma.upv.es [158.42.64.29]) by vega.upv.es (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03353 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:57:05 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <39621856.7E2992AF@dihma.upv.es> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 19:01:10 +0200 From: Eduardo Cassiraga <efc@dihma.upv.es> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftexlib-0.12.zip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all: Following the general instructions in order to install the latest version of pdfTeX in my system I saw that need "pdftexlib-0.12.zip" file. I have not been able to get it from the net. ¿Could somebody tell me where is it, please? Thanks a lot. -- Eduardo F. Cassiraga Departamento de Ingeniería Hidráulica y Medio Ambiente Universidad Politécnica de Valencia C/. Camino de Vera, s/n 46071 Valencia - SPAIN tel. +34 96 387 9613 fax +34 96 387 7618 email: efc@dihma.upv.es 5-Jul-2000 10:39:43-GMT,1606;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28750 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 04:39:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA18008 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 05:00:38 -0400 Received: from itcnt04.itc.nl (itcnt04.itc.nl [192.87.16.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18005 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 05:00:36 -0400 Received: by itcnt04.itc.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id <NKF4T859>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:11:13 +0200 Message-ID: <E714FD539E1FD11189110000F802E87302C410C9@itcnt04.itc.nl> From: Rolf de By <deby@itc.nl> To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Different intensities (`tints') of same colour Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:11:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone enlighten me on the following? I'd like to make use of different intensities (tints, i.e., a pure colour mixed with white) of a defined cmyk colour. I believe such is not supported in the current pdftex.def driver. I am not sure that the pdf standard actually supports such use of colour, at least cannot find it in the PDF ref manual. Obviously, I could define another cmyk for the tint I have in mind using, but such would be dear on the budget. Am I correct to assume that tints cannot be had at present? Or is there a way of getting them? All regards, Rolf de By ITC, Enschede The Netherlands 5-Jul-2000 17:08:32-GMT,2425;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06893 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:08:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18460 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:05:55 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18457 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:05:53 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.82]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA1009; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:09:32 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000705160820.01716720@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:08:20 +0200 To: Rolf de By <deby@itc.nl> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: Different intensities (`tints') of same colour Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <E714FD539E1FD11189110000F802E87302C410C9@itcnt04.itc.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:11 PM 7/5/00 +0200, Rolf de By wrote: >Can anyone enlighten me on the following? > >I'd like to make use of different intensities (tints, i.e., a pure colour >mixed with white) of a defined cmyk colour. I believe such is not supported >in the current pdftex.def driver. I am not sure that the pdf standard >actually supports such use of colour, at least cannot find it in the PDF ref >manual. Obviously, I could define another cmyk for the tint I have in mind >using, but such would be dear on the budget. > >Am I correct to assume that tints cannot be had at present? Or is there a >way of getting them? Pdf would be rather useless in prepress if this would not be possible. You can find more about it in the pdf reference manual. It looks like supporting this from within TeX is not that complicated (i probably have to do it some day soon). Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Jul-2000 6:49:40-GMT,3087;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25595 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:49:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19720 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:49:58 -0400 Received: from mail.inka.de (mail@quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19717 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:49:55 -0400 Received: from moebius.inka.de by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.4) id 13A4bc-0003Sn-00; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:53:48 +0200 Received: (from skirsch@localhost) by moebius.priv (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA03637 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:45:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:45:05 +0200 From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@moebius.inka.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Different intensities (`tints') of same colour Message-ID: <20000705224505.A395@moebius.inka.de> Mail-Followup-To: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch>, pdftex@tug.org References: <E714FD539E1FD11189110000F802E87302C410C9@itcnt04.itc.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000705160820.01716720@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.12i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000705160820.01716720@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 04:08:20PM +0200 Importance: High Sensitivity: Company-Confidential X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Priority: 1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 04:08:20PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > >I'd like to make use of different intensities (tints, i.e., a pure colour > >mixed with white) of a defined cmyk colour. > Pdf would be rather useless in prepress if this would not be > possible. You can find more about it in the pdf reference manual. Could you enlighten us about how to do this? I browsed through the PDF specs and noticed that Separation colours (ie. "pure" colors) and tints of these colours are indeed possible. But I think that the original poster wanted a different thing: He wanted a different "tint" of a cmyk color. This can be accomplished easily in PostScript: Set the current colour to the desired CMYK color using setcmykcolor, obtain the HSB color values of this color using currenthsbcolor (it will be converted on the fly), change the brightness value of this color, and set it with sethsbcolor. *But*, as far as I can tell from my glance at the PDF specs, PDF doesn't support the HSB color space, and doesn't have operators for obtaining the current color. Therefore, it is up to the application to convert the CMYK color to HSB, change its brightness and convert it back to CMYK (or apply some other devilish formula to the CMYK color to change its brightness. Sorry, but this is an area I haven't explored yet.) I *urge* you to correct me if this is wrong! -- Yours, Sebastian Kirsch <skirsch@moebius.inka.de> Newsgroups we've all been waiting for #4827: microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup.installation.reboot.reboot.reboot 6-Jul-2000 19:53:39-GMT,2469;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12349 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:53:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21161 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:18:50 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21158 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:18:42 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13AHEG-0005k8-00; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:22:32 +0100 Received: from max1.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.1] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13AHEG-0006xp-00; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:22:32 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14692.59550.655248.264513@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:14:22 +0100 (BST) To: floyd@vortexsoft.com cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] In-Reply-To: <200007061625.MAA20850@tug.org> References: <200007061625.MAA20850@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Subject: Hello, first post -- HTML 2 PDF question please join the list if you want to post > I am looking for a way to print a web page (ie. text + formatting > + graphics) to PDF format in an automated fashion. I have > reviewed over 80 PDF converter products (as listed on pdfworld.com) > and pdftex looks like one of the few capable of doing this. I am indeed, if you put some work into it > pdfTeX might be a better solution (and had occurred to me in a > brainstorming session even before I did any searching on the > Internet). Drawbacks would be that we would have to output our > HTML to TeX first (I assume) there is a TeX macro package (typehtml, by David Carlisle) which reads HTML directly, but it has not been developed for a few years. traditional conversion might be better > and that we may have to have a unix > box to run pdfTeX (correct?). not at all. pdftex runs happily under Unix, Linux, Mac, Windows etc etc Sebastian 6-Jul-2000 21:43:50-GMT,1733;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15070 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 15:43:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21480 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:09:06 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21477 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:09:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e66LC5H11395 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:12:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu: cottrell owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:12:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu> X-Sender: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: hyperref and dual page numbering In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000606030044.0084f100@pop.wxs.nl> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007061707390.7065-100000@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, this isn't specific to pdftex, but it came up in that context and I know the hyperref gurus live here. I have a document with some front matter with roman page numbering and then the rest of the material with arabic numbering. Hyperref (at leat I think it's hyperref) is complaining bitterly: ! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{page.1}) has been already used, duplicate ignored etc, etc. Is there a way of quelling this? Thanks. -- Allin Cottrell Department of Economics Wake Forest University, NC 7-Jul-2000 0:40:19-GMT,3296;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19189 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:40:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA21791 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:15:42 -0400 Received: from portal.aerojet.com (portal.aerojet.com [192.149.4.254]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21788 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 19:15:40 -0400 Received: (from smapu@localhost) by portal.aerojet.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA21164 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1-az.aerojet.com(159.4.1.8) by portal.aerojet.com via smap (V1.3) id smao19447; Thu Jul 6 17:15:37 2000 Received: from azu-mail2.aes.com ([159.4.100.115]) by radon.aes.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA1486806 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:51:29 -0700 Received: by azu-mail2.aes.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <M83K8WKN>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:51:29 -0700 Message-ID: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C75645440566E0@azu-mail01.aes.com> From: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: RE: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:51:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Another option would be to use an SGML formatter that has a TeX (e.g. the Jade/OpenJade DSSSL engine) to format the HTML (to XML/SGML) and send the TeX backend output ("jadetex") through pdftex. This would require the creation of a new format file ("pdfjadetex") but otherwise appears straightforward (I say "appears" because while I use DSSSL with Jade fairly extensively, I have never needed to use the TeX backend and so have little experience with it). -----Original Message----- From: Sebastian Rahtz [mailto:sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 1:14 PM To: floyd@vortexsoft.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] > Subject: Hello, first post -- HTML 2 PDF question please join the list if you want to post > I am looking for a way to print a web page (ie. text + formatting > + graphics) to PDF format in an automated fashion. I have > reviewed over 80 PDF converter products (as listed on pdfworld.com) > and pdftex looks like one of the few capable of doing this. I am indeed, if you put some work into it > pdfTeX might be a better solution (and had occurred to me in a > brainstorming session even before I did any searching on the > Internet). Drawbacks would be that we would have to output our > HTML to TeX first (I assume) there is a TeX macro package (typehtml, by David Carlisle) which reads HTML directly, but it has not been developed for a few years. traditional conversion might be better > and that we may have to have a unix > box to run pdfTeX (correct?). not at all. pdftex runs happily under Unix, Linux, Mac, Windows etc etc Sebastian 7-Jul-2000 4:32:16-GMT,1658;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23662 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:32:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22092 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:10:17 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.101]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22089 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 23:10:11 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA04900; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:45:40 +0530 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:39:36 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu> cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: hyperref and dual page numbering In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007061707390.7065-100000@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007070935160.816-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Allin Cottrell wrote: : I have a document with some front matter with roman page : numbering and then the rest of the material with arabic : numbering. Hyperref (at leat I think it's hyperref) is : complaining bitterly: : : ! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier : (name{page.1}) has been already used, duplicate ignored : : etc, etc. Is there a way of quelling this? Thanks. use hypertexnames=false in the package loading option. -- Radhakrishnan 7-Jul-2000 9:41:47-GMT,1775;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA29716 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 03:41:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA22923 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:30:07 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA22920 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:30:05 -0400 Received: from remote142-78.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.78] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13AUWF-0000Eq-00; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:33:59 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000707113630.007daec0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:36:30 +0200 To: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: hyperref and dual page numbering In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007061707390.7065-100000@ricardo.ecn.wfu.ed u> References: <3.0.6.32.20000606030044.0084f100@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 17:12 06.07.00 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote: >I have a document with some front matter with roman page >numbering and then the rest of the material with arabic >numbering. Hyperref (at leat I think it's hyperref) is >complaining bitterly: > >! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier >(name{page.1}) has been already used, duplicate ignored Option plainpages=false should work. Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 7-Jul-2000 9:56:54-GMT,2780;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA29979 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 03:56:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA22947 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:47:12 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA22944 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 04:47:10 -0400 Received: from remote142-85.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.85] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13AUmj-0000dv-00; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:51:01 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000707114441.007da520@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:44:41 +0200 To: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com>, Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu> From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: hyperref and dual page numbering Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007070935160.816-100000@narmada.river-valle y.com> References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007061707390.7065-100000@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:39 07.07.00 +0530, Radhakrishnan C V wrote: >On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Allin Cottrell wrote: > > : I have a document with some front matter with roman page > : numbering and then the rest of the material with arabic > : numbering. Hyperref (at leat I think it's hyperref) is > : complaining bitterly: > : > : ! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier > : (name{page.1}) has been already used, duplicate ignored > : > : etc, etc. Is there a way of quelling this? Thanks. > > >use hypertexnames=false in the package loading option. This is the last choice, if plainpages=false does not work, because, for example, the index links does not work with hypertexnames=false. absolute \thepage default- plainpages= page link-name false ----------------------------------------------------------- \frontmatter 1 i page.1 page.i 2 ii page.2 page.ii \mainmatter 3 1 page.1 page.1 4 2 page.2 page.2 5 3 page.3 page.3 With hypertexnames=false all links are numbered consecutively, and a \hyperpage{#} command cannot construct the page link name for page #. And I suggest using option "pdfpagelabels", too. Then Acrobat 4 also shows the TeX page number. Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 7-Jul-2000 14:07:14-GMT,1702;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04934 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:07:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA23321 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:57:00 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23318 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:56:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e67DxrP13698 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:59:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu: cottrell owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:59:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu> X-Sender: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: hyperref and dual page numbering In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000707114441.007da520@localhost> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007070958220.13672-100000@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > absolute \thepage default- plainpages= > page link-name false > ----------------------------------------------------------- > \frontmatter > 1 i page.1 page.i > 2 ii page.2 page.ii > \mainmatter > 3 1 page.1 page.1 > 4 2 page.2 page.2 > 5 3 page.3 page.3 Thanks, that's very clear. Allin Cottrell. 7-Jul-2000 13:17:34-GMT,3672;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03849 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:17:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA23238 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:06:57 -0400 Received: from dep.oprit.rug.nl (dep.oprit.rug.nl [129.125.36.9]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23235 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:06:50 -0400 Received: from bitmuis.thuis.nl (client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl [129.125.44.3]) by dep.oprit.rug.nl (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA27710 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:10:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from siepo by bitmuis.thuis.nl with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13AWtx-0002MJ-00 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:06:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:06:37 +0200 From: Siep Kroonenberg <siepo@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Different intensities (`tints') of same colour Message-ID: <20000707140637.A9032@client3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl> Reply-To: siepo@cybercomm.nl References: <E714FD539E1FD11189110000F802E87302C410C9@itcnt04.itc.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000705160820.01716720@pop.wxs.nl> <20000705224505.A395@moebius.inka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000705224505.A395@moebius.inka.de>; from skirsch@moebius.inka.de on Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 10:45:05PM +0200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 10:45:05PM +0200, Sebastian Marius Kirsch wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 04:08:20PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > > >I'd like to make use of different intensities (tints, i.e., a pure colour > > >mixed with white) of a defined cmyk colour. > > Pdf would be rather useless in prepress if this would not be > > possible. You can find more about it in the pdf reference manual. > > Could you enlighten us about how to do this? > > I browsed through the PDF specs and noticed that Separation colours > (ie. "pure" colors) and tints of these colours are indeed possible. But > I think that the original poster wanted a different thing: He wanted a > different "tint" of a cmyk color. This can be accomplished easily in > PostScript: Set the current colour to the desired CMYK color using > setcmykcolor, obtain the HSB color values of this color using > currenthsbcolor (it will be converted on the fly), change the brightness > value of this color, and set it with sethsbcolor. > > *But*, as far as I can tell from my glance at the PDF specs, PDF doesn't > support the HSB color space, and doesn't have operators for obtaining > the current color. Therefore, it is up to the application to convert the > CMYK color to HSB, change its brightness and convert it back to CMYK (or > apply some other devilish formula to the CMYK color to change its > brightness. Sorry, but this is an area I haven't explored yet.) > > I *urge* you to correct me if this is wrong! > > -- > Yours, Sebastian Kirsch <skirsch@moebius.inka.de> > > Newsgroups we've all been waiting for #4827: > microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup.installation.reboot.reboot.reboot This is not a good idea. There is no one-to-one relation between cmyk and hsb colorspaces. cmyk represents ink on paper, and what that means in terms of colorspaces such as hsb depends on paper, ink, press conditions etc. and hsb and cmyk don't cover the same gamut anyway. Is there any reason why tints shouldn't be defined at the TeX level? I apologize if this question was already answered; I didn't save this thread. Siep Kroonenberg -- 7-Jul-2000 16:40:27-GMT,6118;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08882 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:40:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23576 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:22:16 -0400 Received: from portal.aerojet.com (portal.aerojet.com [192.149.4.254]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23572 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:22:07 -0400 Received: (from smapu@localhost) by portal.aerojet.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA25640 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1-az.aerojet.com(159.4.1.8) by portal.aerojet.com via smap (V1.3) id sma025607; Fri Jul 7 09:25:17 2000 Received: from azu-mail2.aes.com ([159.4.100.115]) by radon.aes.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA1495483; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:24:25 -0700 Received: by azu-mail2.aes.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <M83K8Z4F>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:24:25 -0700 Message-ID: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C75645440566E2@azu-mail01.aes.com> From: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> Cc: "'\"Floyd Maxwell\"<floyd@vortexsoft.com>'" <floyd@vortexsoft.com> Subject: RE: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:24:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Reading the reply I sent earlier, *I*'m confused. So let me try again in the hopes of being more clear this time. As I understand the problem, Floyd Maxwell has a set of HTML pages (including links among them) that he wants to convert into PDF. A possible route to do this is to convert the source HTML into TeX, and then use PDFTeX to convert the TeX to PDF. Sebastian's comment seems to have focused on automated or semi-automated ways to turn the document into sensible TeX as the basis for this conversion. I propose a different route for consideration, taking advantage of tools from the SGML world (since HTML is an SGML application). The process would be: 1. Obtain or create a DSSSL script which formats the HTML pages as you desire. Depending on how you want the HTML formatted, this may be more or less complicated; DSSSL is capable of doing some very interesting things with links, for example. 2. "Format" the HTML pages using a DSSSL engine with a TeX backend (Jade [http://www.jclark.com/jade/] or OpenJade [http://www.netfolder.com/DSSSL/index.html] being the two obvious candidates). This results in a TeX file, presumably with macros defined by the DSSSL processor (e.g. with Jade, the macro package would be JadeTeX). 3. Process the TeX file with PDFTeX to get the desired PDF output. As a side benefit, this process also allows you to get the HTML pages converted to several other output formats just by changing the selection of backends. A related approach would be to write a DSSSL script that converts the HTML to LaTeX, either with a specific existing documentclass in mind or by also creating a documentclass for the purpose. This approach would be straightforward, I think, but might be a bit tedious depending on how much of HTML you wanted to support in the tool. The part of either approach that is likely to be the most challenging is the handling of links in the HTML. If it is desired to transliterate them into links in the PDF (which appears feasible with this approach) some thought about how to embed the necessary PDFTeX commands in the TeX file resulting from the DSSSL processing is needed -- I haven't used JadeTeX enough to know how difficult that would be. If this approach seriously interests you, you may want to consult the dssslist@mulberrytech.com (which is another "by subscription" mailing list; see http://www.mulberrytech.com/dsssl/dssslist/index.html for more details). Good luck, and I hope this post is more understandable than my last :-) Mark -----Original Message----- From: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com [mailto:MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:51 PM To: 'pdftex@tug.org' Subject: RE: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] Another option would be to use an SGML formatter that has a TeX (e.g. the Jade/OpenJade DSSSL engine) to format the HTML (to XML/SGML) and send the TeX backend output ("jadetex") through pdftex. This would require the creation of a new format file ("pdfjadetex") but otherwise appears straightforward (I say "appears" because while I use DSSSL with Jade fairly extensively, I have never needed to use the TeX backend and so have little experience with it). -----Original Message----- From: Sebastian Rahtz [mailto:sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 1:14 PM To: floyd@vortexsoft.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] > Subject: Hello, first post -- HTML 2 PDF question please join the list if you want to post > I am looking for a way to print a web page (ie. text + formatting > + graphics) to PDF format in an automated fashion. I have > reviewed over 80 PDF converter products (as listed on pdfworld.com) > and pdftex looks like one of the few capable of doing this. I am indeed, if you put some work into it > pdfTeX might be a better solution (and had occurred to me in a > brainstorming session even before I did any searching on the > Internet). Drawbacks would be that we would have to output our > HTML to TeX first (I assume) there is a TeX macro package (typehtml, by David Carlisle) which reads HTML directly, but it has not been developed for a few years. traditional conversion might be better > and that we may have to have a unix > box to run pdfTeX (correct?). not at all. pdftex runs happily under Unix, Linux, Mac, Windows etc etc Sebastian 7-Jul-2000 19:25:50-GMT,1142;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13171 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:25:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24007 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:12:41 -0400 Received: from [132.159.119.2] ([132.159.126.24]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA24004 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:12:39 -0400 Received: from [132.159.126.24] by [132.159.119.2] via smtpd (for [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 19:18:06 UT Received: by LEE-IS-002 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <N9DW9GFG>; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:11:15 -0400 Message-ID: <21E592FA8BA7D311B5B100062B001FE2CCDE3F@LEE2> From: "McAllaster, Douglas L. LTC" <mcallasterd@LEE.ARMY.MIL> To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: testing123 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:18:11 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk attempting to post a msg to pdftex listserv LTC Doug McAllaster mcallasterd@Lee.army.mil 804-765-4262 8-Jul-2000 12:06:11-GMT,2221;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03110 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:06:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA25703 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:45:09 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25699 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:45:07 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13AszG-0002gI-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 12:41:34 +0100 Received: from max84.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.84] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13AszF-0002NZ-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 12:41:33 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14695.7943.420874.871327@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:31:03 +0100 (BST) To: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org, floyd@vortexsoft.com Subject: RE: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] In-Reply-To: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C75645440566E2@azu-mail01.aes.com> References: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C75645440566E2@azu-mail01.aes.com> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > The part of either approach that is likely to be the most >challenging is the handling of links in the HTML. If it is desired to > transliterate them into links in the PDF (which appears feasible with > this approach) some thought about how to embed the necessary PDFTeX > commands in the TeX file resulting from the DSSSL processing is needed > -- I haven't used JadeTeX enough to know how difficult that would be. > no post-processing of the TeX file written by Jade is plausible or necessary. it will have the link information, which the jadetex macros handle correctly. jadetex uses hyperref internally. Sebastian 8-Jul-2000 12:06:16-GMT,2341;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03114 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:06:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA25692 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:43:07 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25689 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:43:04 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13AsxK-0003ov-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 12:39:34 +0100 Received: from max84.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.84] helo=localhost.localdomain ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13AsxK-0002Bt-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 12:39:34 +0100 X-Mailer: 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14695.1508.639249.862937@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:43:48 +0100 (BST) To: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] In-Reply-To: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C75645440566E0@azu-mail01.aes.com> References: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C75645440566E0@azu-mail01.aes.com> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Wroth, Mark writes: > Another option would be to use an SGML formatter that has a TeX >(e.g. the Jade/OpenJade DSSSL engine) to format the HTML (to XML/SGML) >and send the TeX backend output ("jadetex") through pdftex. This >would require the creation of a new format file ("pdfjadetex") but > otherwise appears straightforward (I say "appears" because while I use > DSSSL with Jade fairly extensively, I have never needed to use the TeX > backend and so have little experience with it). a) it would require you to write a DSSSL specification for HTML, something few people are equipped to do b) what comes out is TeX, but not as we know it, Jim. dont get the idea that you could tinker with it c) i know better than anyone that jadetex has limitations sebastian 8-Jul-2000 23:41:05-GMT,1761;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15453 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:41:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26575 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:18:31 -0400 Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26572 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:18:29 -0400 Received: from biology.usu.edu (129.123.16.3 [129.123.16.3]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 3BCG0NKH; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:22:32 -0600 Message-ID: <3967AB3A.32326F35@biology.usu.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 16:29:14 -0600 From: "James W. Haefner" <jhaefner@biology.usu.edu> Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: pdflatex source for color slides Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I wish to use pdf*la*tex to create color slides to be printed on a slide maker. My sys-admin assures me that our windows version of acroread can print to the slide maker. Can someone point me to an example latex document that will create the correct pdf pages? Should I use seminar.sty? Is there another sty file? Again, a latex file would greatly shorten my learning curve. Thanks. Jim Haefner -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 9-Jul-2000 1:08:00-GMT,1601;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17015 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:07:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26702 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:47:45 -0400 Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26699 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:47:43 -0400 Received: from biology.usu.edu (129.123.16.3 [129.123.16.3]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 3BCG0NLK; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 18:51:47 -0600 Message-ID: <3967C025.522FE18A@biology.usu.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:58:29 -0600 From: "James W. Haefner" <jhaefner@biology.usu.edu> Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Source for examples Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The new FAQ is a great improvement. Would it be possible to download the source that produced those incredible pdf examples? Is there a repository of files for pdf-tricks (or, even, mundane pdf output)? Or, have I missed something obvious here? Jim -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 9-Jul-2000 4:33:03-GMT,1864;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA20575 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:33:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26954 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:12:51 -0400 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA26951 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:12:48 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1a-115-179.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.15.179] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13B8WW-0001T8-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 21:16:57 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13B8bq-0004ou-00; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 21:22:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:22:26 -0700 From: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Message-ID: <20000708212226.A18488@redwoodscientific.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The following is from a NASA (the US space agency) request for proposals: "NASA requests that technical proposals be submitted in PDF format, and encourages companies to do so.... Unix and TeX users please note that due to PDF difficulties with non-standard fonts, please output technical proposal files in DVI format." Does anyone know what NASA is talking about here? Does this problem still exist or has it been fixed? Is the problem limited to Computer Modern fonts or does it apply to all TeX fonts (which have Knuth's strange encoding)? John P.S. The above quote is from: http://sbir.gsfc.nasa.gov/SBIR/sbir2000/phase1/solicitation/chapter6.html#6.2 9-Jul-2000 10:08:37-GMT,2366;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA26608 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 04:08:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27812 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 04:48:11 -0400 Received: from pluto.wroclaw.top.pl (pluto.wroclaw.top.pl [213.25.48.132]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27809 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 04:47:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pluto.wroclaw.top.pl (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e699rpq01733; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:55:42 +0200 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:53:50 +0200 From: Grzegorz Sapijaszko <sapi@ldhpux.immt.pwr.wroc.pl> To: "James W . Haefner" <jhaefner@biology.usu.edu> Cc: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: pdflatex source for color slides Message-ID: <20000709115350.A1536@pluto.wroclaw.top.pl> Reply-To: sapi@ldhpux.immt.pwr.wroc.pl References: <3967AB3A.32326F35@biology.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3967AB3A.32326F35@biology.usu.edu>; from jhaefner@biology.usu.edu on nie, lip 09, 2000 at 00:29:14 +0200 X-Mailer: Balsa 0.8.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On nie, 09 lip 2000 00:29:14 James W. Haefner wrote: > I wish to use pdf*la*tex to create color slides to be printed on a slide > maker. My sys-admin assures me that our windows version of acroread can > print to the slide maker. Can someone point me to an example latex > document that will create the correct pdf pages? Should I use > seminar.sty? Is there another sty file? Again, a latex file would > greatly shorten my learning curve. You can start with pdfslide or pdfscreen package (both available on CTAN)[1], and both produces a funny pdf document. In distribution you find a manual (both: source and pdf document). A good place to start with pdfTeX primitives is a documentation and examples for pdfTeX[2]. The other way is, using the seminar package and/or pstrick, make a ps document and convert it (using ghostscript for exaple) to pdf. [1] CTAN:/macros/latex/contrib/supported/pdfscreen CTAN:/macros/latex/contrib/supported/pdfslide [2] ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/sctug/pdftex/samplepdf.zip Greetings, Grzesiek 9-Jul-2000 12:00:54-GMT,1452;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28421 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 06:00:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA27931 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 06:39:46 -0400 Received: from zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE (zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.50.108]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27928 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 06:39:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (roth@localhost) by zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00940 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 13:55:11 +0200 (METDST) Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 13:55:11 +0200 (METDST) From: Daniel Roth <roth@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion In-Reply-To: <20000708212226.A18488@redwoodscientific.com> Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.1000709135052.931A-100000@zeus.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > encourages companies to do so.... Unix and TeX users please note that due > to PDF difficulties with non-standard fonts, please output technical > proposal files in DVI format." I could imagine that this concerns the problem only with bitmap fonts which render poorly and slowly in PDF. Using PostScript fonts could be ok otherwise. - Daniel 9-Jul-2000 12:24:45-GMT,3050;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28809 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 06:24:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA27968 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 07:02:51 -0400 Received: from zevs.idi.ntnu.no (zevs.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.164.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27965 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 07:02:38 -0400 Received: from bryssel (dhcp-111-02.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.111.211]) by zevs.idi.ntnu.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13228 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 14:06:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <022b01bfe99e$0a51c9a0$d36ff181@bryssel> From: "Magnus Lie Hetland" <mlh@idi.ntnu.no> To: "pdfTeX" <pdftex@tug.org> References: <20000708212226.A18488@redwoodscientific.com> Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 14:05:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 6:22 AM Subject: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion > The following is from a NASA (the US space agency) request for proposals: > > "NASA requests that technical proposals be submitted in PDF format, and > encourages companies to do so.... Unix and TeX users please note that due > to PDF difficulties with non-standard fonts, please output technical > proposal files in DVI format." > > Does anyone know what NASA is talking about here? Well - it may be that if you use TeX -> dvips -> distiller, then you get (ugly) bitmap fonts... (Not a problem with pdfTeX, of course...) Another problem with the distiller solution is that it doesn't (at least not always) include fonts... I tried to get this to work with Palatino/mathpple, but ended up with an ugly garamond-version when I viewed it in Acrobat reader. This (again) is not a problem with pdfTeX. > Does this problem > still exist or has it been fixed? Is the problem limited to Computer Modern > fonts or does it apply to all TeX fonts (which have Knuth's strange > encoding)? Well - of course this is just a guess - but it seems to me that the problems they are talking about are related to the ps -> distiller -> pdf solution (or, as some might put it, problem). pdfTeX seems to produce perfectly well-behaved PDF; much better than the acrobat distiller in many cases. Of course, it might be nice to ask them for an answer to this: Is pdfTeX PDF files acceptable? (They certainly should be... :) > > John -- Magnus Lie Hetland (magnus at hetland dot org) "A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring." (Alexander Pope) 9-Jul-2000 20:42:02-GMT,4508;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07520 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 14:42:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28648 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 15:19:41 -0400 Received: from nova.kettering.edu (nova.kettering.edu [192.138.137.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28645 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 15:19:39 -0400 Received: from gaspra.kettering.edu (IDENT:root@gaspra.kettering.edu [198.110.4.97]) by nova.kettering.edu (8.10.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e69KNZW21720 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 16:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:mwicks@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gaspra.kettering.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28800 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 16:24:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 16:24:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark A. Wicks" <mwicks@kettering.edu> To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion In-Reply-To: <022b01bfe99e$0a51c9a0$d36ff181@bryssel> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007091529020.28691-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote: > Well - it may be that if you use TeX -> dvips -> distiller, then you get > (ugly) > bitmap fonts... (Not a problem with pdfTeX, of course...) I can't speak for NASA, but I don't think that's the reason. I can say that another government agency, the NSF, endorses only two methods of producing PDF for submitting proposals authored in TeX. Those methods are either TeX->dvips->distiller or TeX->dvips->gs. Other methods have difficulties with their FastLane software, which relies heavily on Acrobat Exchange 3.0. > pdfTeX seems to produce perfectly well-behaved PDF; much better than > the acrobat distiller in many cases. I am not sure what your definitions of "well-behaved" or "better than distiller" are. Based on personal experience with NSF, I know that NSF is correct that dvips->distiller, when done correctly, produces the most "well-behaved" PDF files in terms of being compatible with Acrobat. I recently tried every combination I could think of (pdftex, dvipdfm, and dvips followed by both distiller and gs) to generate PDF files that NSF's FastLane software would accept. As the author of dvipdfm, I was certainly not biased toward distiller as a solution. To the contrary, I worked hard to find an alternative solution. Of these four methods, *only* dvips followed by distiller produced an acceptable (to FastLane/Acrobat) PDF file. Even though GhostScript is endorsed by NSF, it too produced an unacceptable PDF file. Regarding the ugly bitmaps, it's true that most users don't know how to produce good PDF using dvips and distiller (which may be part of the reason for the policy). Getting rid of the ugly bitmaps (which is easy) is only part of the problem. There are several distiller options affecting font encoding, font embedding, and font subsetting that are required to produce an acceptable PDF file. Those options require a lot of user education and many users don't understand the issues. That may be part of the reason that NASA doesn't want users to attempt the conversion themselves. Even though NSF has detailed instructions on their Web pages, I know many people who ignore the instructions and submit their files using various incompatible methods of generating PDF. As long as people stick with the historical TeX fonts and \special commands (which they usually do) the DVI format is extremely well-defined and unambiguous. TeX source has problems with varying package versions and PDF suffers the problem of not being well-defined. If I were a tech support person at NSF or NASA, I might arrive at a similar policy. Rather than dealing with four or five different PDF generators, by having the files submitted in DVI format, I could generate acceptable PDF myself, produce a printed document exactly as the author intended, and have all the files generated exactly the same way by the same software. ______________________________________________________________________ Mark A. Wicks mwicks@kettering.edu ECE Department, Kettering University Voice: (810) 762-7992 1700 West Third Ave, Flint, MI 48504-4898 Fax: (810) 762-9830 10-Jul-2000 4:55:36-GMT,2074;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16390 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 22:55:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29367 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:32:56 -0400 Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr (matups.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29364 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:32:54 -0400 Received: from topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (topodyn.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.70]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id GAA03022 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:36:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from lcs@localhost) by topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id GAA04618; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:36:51 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:36:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Laurent Siebenmann <Laurent.Siebenmann@math.u-psud.fr> Message-Id: <200007100436.GAA04618@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> To: lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Mark, > Getting rid of the ugly bitmaps (which is easy) is > only part of the problem. If you know how to easily get rid of the ugly bitmaps in PDF and replace them with the vectorial fonts, do tell us how. There are millions of pages of rubbish PDF out on the net needing that remedy. Where commercial software is concerned I am willing to bet that PDF is NOT what the vague PDF documentation describes but rather narrowly what Distiller outputs and what Exchange accepts. Have you really checked that it is not possible to make the output of dvipdfm and of pdftex acceptable to FastTrack by printing to PS file and redistilling?? (This loses some apparatus I guess but its better than abandoning a good tool.) Finally, do you believe dvipdfm and pdftex currently produce pdf that has detectable/objective faults? Which? Cheers Larry 10-Jul-2000 7:01:48-GMT,2694;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA18967 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA29852 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:52:32 -0400 Received: from mail.inka.de (mail@quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29849 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:52:29 -0400 Received: from moebius.inka.de by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.4) id 13BXUa-0007bx-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:56:36 +0200 Received: (from skirsch@localhost) by moebius.priv (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id XAA18751 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:39:14 +0200 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:38:46 +0200 From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@moebius.inka.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Different intensities (`tints') of same colour Message-ID: <20000709233846.C8823@moebius.inka.de> Mail-Followup-To: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch>, pdftex@tug.org References: <E714FD539E1FD11189110000F802E87302C410C9@itcnt04.itc.nl> <3.0.6.32.20000705160820.01716720@pop.wxs.nl> <20000705224505.A395@moebius.inka.de> <20000707140637.A9032@client3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.12i In-Reply-To: <20000707140637.A9032@client3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl>; from siepo@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 02:06:37PM +0200 Importance: High Sensitivity: Company-Confidential X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Priority: 1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 02:06:37PM +0200, Siep Kroonenberg wrote: > There is no one-to-one relation between cmyk and hsb colorspaces. Aye. But this is not the point; may I quote the original poster: # I'd like to make use of different intensities (tints, i.e., a pure # colour mixed with white) of a defined cmyk colour. The question here is not to represent a given colour perfectly in any colour space, but to produce a different "tint" of a given colour, ie. a colour that has the same hue as the original colour, but a different brightness. If the given colour is a process colour, you can have a "perfect" tint of this colour; but if the given colour is a CMYK colour, you have to determine a different CMYK colour that is as close to a "tint" of the original colour as possible. I showed how this can be programmed in PostScript, and I pointed out why the same thing cannot be done in PDF. -- Yours, Sebastian Kirsch <skirsch@moebius.inka.de> Real programmers know better than the users what they need. 10-Jul-2000 9:16:19-GMT,2253;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA21191 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 03:16:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30010 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 03:09:39 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.91]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA30007 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 03:09:32 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA10645 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:46:11 +0530 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:40:04 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for pdfscreen Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007101333020.1599-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote: : 1. The "Full Screen" button is (as you surely know) hardcoded : while the others are language dependent... Would it be possible : to change this - possibly just by putting the button text into a : command like the others, so I can redefine it without hacking : pdfscreen.sty? Fixed now, though I do not know the equivalent of Full Screen in other languages which pdfscreen supports now. Users of other languages may kindly send the equivalent in their languages. : 2. I like the fact that I can use the same document as onscreen- : and print-source (through the screen and print options), but : would very much like to include the slide environment in my : document... Would it be possible to change the slide environment : so that it does nothing if the print option is set? (The way it : is now, I get complaints from pdfLaTeX...) An even better slide environment has been redefined in the print option to look like a shadow boxed stuff. : Well - that's all (for now). Thank you for a great package. :)) Thanks for the generous complments. I will upload the revised version to CTAN at the end of the day. -- Radhakrishnan 10-Jul-2000 11:56:18-GMT,3557;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA23854 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 05:56:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA31109 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:41:31 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA31106 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:41:29 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id NAA14996; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:42:49 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200007101142.NAA23270@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id NAA23270; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:42:48 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:42:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Subject: Re: pdfpageduration (was: Re: Three questions concerning hyperref 6.56) To: pdftex@tug.org, oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Cc: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: iXcD3hBmZRxKmOe2zocA2g== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:52:49 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: (my reply is admittedly rather late :) > At 11:49 13.03.2000 +0100, Stephan Lehmke wrote: > > >3) The Dur key. > >--------------- > > Try out the test version 6.70a: > http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip > I have introduced two options: > `pdfpageduration': the argument is the value in seconds > for the /Dur key, or > empty, if there should not be a /Dur key. Thanks for the update. It works well, and has been supported by TeXPower for quite some time now. Just one remaining question (I'm using hyperref v6.70o now): The scope for the pdfpageduration key is different for the hpdftex and pdfmark drivers. Because of the global redefinition of \pdfpageattr in hpdftex.def, the scope of pdfpageduration is * local to the current group if _no_ page break occurs before the current group closes (because the definition of \@pdfpageduration is undone). * global if a page break occurs before the current group closes (because \hyper@pageduration is executed, globally redefining \pdfpageattr). With pdfmark.def, the scope of pdfpageduration is always local to the current group, because \hyper@pageduration simply writes the pdfmark. Defining \@pdfpageduration to \@empty by default would make the setting of pdfpageduration always local because \hyper@pageduration would remove the dur key from \pdfpageattr if the setting of \@pdfpageduration is undone by the closing of a group. Redefining \define@key{Hyp}{pdfpageduration}{\gdef\@pdfpageduration{#1}} would make the setting of pdfpageduration always global. I don't know which behaviour of the pdfpageduration key is more desirable, but I consider the different behaviour for pdftex vs. dvips+distiller a bug. The same probably holds for pdfpagetransition and ...hidden. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 10-Jul-2000 12:53:18-GMT,1829;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA24902 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:53:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00730 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:29:23 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00724 for <pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:29:20 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.16]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAC38E5; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:32:44 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000710142854.00874100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:28:54 +0200 To: Seth Isenberg <seth.b.isenberg@bigfoot.com> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: quick note Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <4.1.20010708130921.00a58ed0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 01:12 PM 7/8/01 -0400, Seth Isenberg wrote: > My searches have thus far been unsuccessful, but I'm fairly certain ... security I cannot imagine that printing to distiller would unlock the file, if only because the password is needed in order to decript the file. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jul-2000 13:30:55-GMT,2980;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25621 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:30:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00915 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:20:51 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA00912 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:20:44 -0400 Received: from remote142-11.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.11] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13BdXh-0006Jv-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:24:14 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000710142440.2a8f2df0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:24:40 +0200 To: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: pdfpageduration (was: Re: Three questions concerning hyperref 6.56) Cc: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <200007101142.NAA23270@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 13:42 10.07.2000 +0200, Stephan Lehmke wrote: >On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:52:49 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >The scope for the pdfpageduration key is different >for the hpdftex and pdfmark drivers. > >Because of the global redefinition of \pdfpageattr >in hpdftex.def, the scope of pdfpageduration is The global is necessary, because \hyper@pagetransition is executed in the headline, inside a box. Without \global, the changed meaning of \pdfpageattr would disappear at the time the page is shipped out. >* local to the current group if _no_ page break > occurs before the current group closes (because > the definition of \@pdfpageduration is undone). > >* global if a page break occurs before the current > group closes (because \hyper@pageduration is > executed, globally redefining \pdfpageattr). > >With pdfmark.def, the scope of pdfpageduration is >always local to the current group, because >\hyper@pageduration simply writes the pdfmark. >[...] >I don't know which behaviour of the pdfpageduration >key is more desirable, but I consider the different >behaviour for pdftex vs. dvips+distiller a bug. I want to have the (expected) local behaviour. This is easy with the pdfmark drivers (they know the reference {ThisPage}.) But it is very difficult to achieve the same result with pdfTeX, because it supports the setting of the duration key in a different way (\pdfpageattr). Or in other words, the implementation of setting the transition key is not perfect in the pdftex driver, but I do not know a better one. Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> PS: In the meantime a third algorithm exists that supports VTeX. 10-Jul-2000 13:31:31-GMT,2087;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25639 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:31:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00920 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:21:01 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA00917 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:20:58 -0400 Received: from remote142-11.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.11] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13BdXk-0006Jv-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:24:16 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000710143414.10d74ad6@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:34:14 +0200 To: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: Suggestions for pdfscreen In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007101333020.1599-100000@narmada.river-vall ey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 13:40 10.07.2000 +0530, Radhakrishnan C V wrote: >Fixed now, though I do not know the equivalent of Full Screen in other >languages which pdfscreen supports now. Users of other languages may >kindly send the equivalent in their languages. German: Vollbild And I can need help for the default \autoref names in other languages: [English] [German] * Equation Gleichung * footnote Fu\ss note [wrong in 6.70o] * item Punkt * Figure Abbildung * Table Tabelle * Part Teil * Appendix Anhang * chapter Kapitel * section \"Uberschrift * subsection Unter\"uberschrift * subsubsection Unterunter\"uberschrift * paragraph Absatz * subparagraph Unterabsatz * line Linie * Theorem Theorem Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 10-Jul-2000 13:40:11-GMT,3051;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25800 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:40:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00945 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:30:40 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00942 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:30:38 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id PAA18588; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:31:08 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200007101331.PAA23330@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id PAA23330; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:31:07 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:31:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Subject: Re: pdfpageduration (was: Re: Three questions concerning hyperref 6.56) To: pdftex@tug.org, oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Cc: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 2QotVT1ukr0NwX3zfjhl8g== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:24:40 +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > At 13:42 10.07.2000 +0200, Stephan Lehmke wrote: > >On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:52:49 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > > > >The scope for the pdfpageduration key is different > >for the hpdftex and pdfmark drivers. > > > >Because of the global redefinition of \pdfpageattr > >in hpdftex.def, the scope of pdfpageduration is > > The global is necessary, because \hyper@pagetransition > is executed in the headline, inside a box. Of course. I just wanted to state te reason for the global behaviour. > >[...] > >I don't know which behaviour of the pdfpageduration > >key is more desirable, but I consider the different > >behaviour for pdftex vs. dvips+distiller a bug. > > I want to have the (expected) local behaviour. > This is easy with the pdfmark drivers (they know > the reference {ThisPage}.) But it is very difficult > to achieve the same result with pdfTeX, because it > supports the setting of the duration key in a > different way (\pdfpageattr). > > Or in other words, the implementation of > setting the transition key is not perfect > in the pdftex driver, but I do not know > a better one. Why not define \@pdfpageduration to be \@empty (instead of \relax) by default, so the Dur key will be removed from \pdfpageattr by \hyper@pageduration on the next page after the group has closed? regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 10-Jul-2000 15:44:11-GMT,3927;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28633 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:43:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01464 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:30:25 -0400 Received: from elch.de.uu.net (elch.de.uu.net [192.76.144.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01460 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:30:17 -0400 Received: from gmx.de (pec-219.au1.b.uunet.de [149.228.255.219]) by elch.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id RAA10128; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:29:18 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3969EC95.9BB43356@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:32:37 +0200 From: Tobias Burnus <burnus@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [de] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, it, en, nl, fr-FR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mark A. Wicks" <mwicks@kettering.edu> CC: Laurent Siebenmann <Laurent.Siebenmann@math.u-psud.fr>, lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007100759220.32485-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, "Mark A. Wicks" wrote: > > Where commercial software is concerned I am willing to bet that PDF > > is NOT what the vague PDF documentation describes but rather narrowly > > what Distiller outputs and what Exchange accepts. > That's exactly my point. If you accept that as a definition of PDF, > then dvipdfm, gs, and pdftex do not produce valid PDF. The main definition should be what is in the specification, but this specification is not always very clear and sometimes wrong (i.e. you wouldn't want to do it as described and the Acrobat family doesn't). The problem is that that there is not a single instance which declares what works de-facto and what not: The Acrobat Readers differ between version and sub-version, the Java version seems to be done from scratch etc. Moreover do some companies offer printers with PDF-1.3 support (not very unlikely for Postscript Level 3 printers), and not every printer uses an Adobe RIP etc. The only possibility is to follow the specs as close as possible and check the Adobe Distiller output. As an example: L. Peter Deutsch wants to implement an linearized (optimizer) for PDF files. He follows strictly the specifications, but still the Acrobat Reader is of the opinion that it isn't linearized. (At least it shows (Document info: Optimized: No.) In this case the only possibility is to modify the created file. Note: Besides the TeX & Friends programs there are also other programs which produce PDF output, e.g. the Corel family (I know it at least from Corel Photopaint 9 for Linux). Adobe should create a better specification and release it soon (or has anyone seen the PDF 1.4 (one.FOUR) specification which is used by Adobe Illustrator)? > > Have you really checked that it is not possible to make > > the output of dvipdfm and of pdftex acceptable to FastTrack > > by printing to PS file and redistilling?? > Yes, I tried that combination too. It probably could be made to work, > but there are some font naming issues there too. There is another font-name related problem: Acrobat Reader prefers systems installed fonts over embedded fonts (which is rather stupid!). Are these problems the same with PDFTeX (version?), dvipdfm (v.?) and ps2pdf of Ghostscript (6.01 or later)? > > Finally, do you believe dvipdfm and pdftex currently produce pdf > > that has detectable/objective faults? Which? > Visually detectable, no. However, there are faults detectable by > Acrobat exchange. The faults of the converter implementation or of the Adobe Exchange program? What problems exists? Are those the same with different Adobe-* programs/version? Tobias 10-Jul-2000 16:37:59-GMT,3050;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00088 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:37:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01638 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:22:49 -0400 Received: from portal.aerojet.com (portal.aerojet.com [192.149.4.254]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01634 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:22:08 -0400 Received: (from smapu@localhost) by portal.aerojet.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id JAA23790 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1-az.aerojet.com(159.4.1.8) by portal.aerojet.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023737; Mon Jul 10 09:24:03 2000 Received: from azu-mail2.aes.com ([159.4.100.115]) by radon.aes.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA1518983 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:24:02 -0700 Received: by azu-mail2.aes.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <M83K9AV9>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:24:02 -0700 Message-ID: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C756454461967E@azu-mail01.aes.com> From: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:24:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz [mailto:sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk] commented on my suggestion Wroth, Mark writes: > Another option would be to use an SGML formatter that has a TeX >(e.g. the Jade/OpenJade DSSSL engine) to format the HTML (to XML/SGML) >and send the TeX backend output ("jadetex") through pdftex. This >would require the creation of a new format file ("pdfjadetex") but > otherwise appears straightforward (I say "appears" because while I use > DSSSL with Jade fairly extensively, I have never needed to use the TeX > backend and so have little experience with it). SR> a) it would require you to write a DSSSL specification for HTML, SR> something few people are equipped to do Depending on what is needed, this could range from the pretty easy through the tedious to fairly challenging. Clearly this approach would be much easier if there exists a DSSSL script for formatting HTML that is close to what is desired. SR> b) what comes out is TeX, but not as we know it, Jim. dont get the SR> idea that you could tinker with it I agree completely. With this approach, the place to tinker is the DSSSL script, not the TeX. SR> c) i know better than anyone that jadetex has limitations But its limitations may or may not be important for this application. Judging from the traffic on the DSSSList, a number of people find it useful. I'll bow to Sebastian's opinion on the details, though, since he is the current maintainer of JadeTeX AFAIK. Mark 10-Jul-2000 16:48:59-GMT,1832;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00444 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:48:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01662 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:29:21 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA01659 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:29:18 -0400 Received: from remote142-141.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.141] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13BgU9-0002Wh-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:32:45 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000710180343.093ff8b6@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:03:43 +0200 To: Stephan Lehmke <lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de>, pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Subject: Re: pdfpageduration (was: Re: Three questions concerning hyperref 6.56) Cc: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <200007101331.PAA23330@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 15:31 10.07.2000 +0200, Stephan Lehmke wrote: >Why not define \@pdfpageduration to be \@empty >(instead of \relax) by default, so the Dur key >will be removed from \pdfpageattr by \hyper@pageduration >on the next page after the group has closed? \relax indicates that option pdfduration has not been used, for example, if the user has implemented his own technique independent from hyperref. Workaround: \usepackage[pdfpageduration={}]{hyperref} Yours sincerely Heiko <oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de> 10-Jul-2000 16:59:14-GMT,3281;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00754 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:59:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01741 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:49:39 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01738 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:49:37 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.16]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FXHQWK01.53A; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:53:08 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000710182044.014b98e0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:20:44 +0200 To: "Mark A. Wicks" <mwicks@kettering.edu> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007100759220.32485-100000@gaspra.kettering .edu> References: <200007100436.GAA04618@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:09 AM 7/10/00 -0400, Mark A. Wicks wrote: > >> Where commercial software is concerned I am willing to bet that PDF >> is NOT what the vague PDF documentation describes but rather narrowly >> what Distiller outputs and what Exchange accepts. > > That's exactly my point. If you accept that as a definition of PDF, >then dvipdfm, gs, and pdftex do not produce valid PDF. Since in most cases tex engines do not produce that sophisticated output (like complicated resources and color things and whatever graphics) I think both pdftex and dvipdfm produce code that is less dangerous than we think. There are adobe docs that can make exchange bark as well and in most cases tex produced docs are ok. Font issues are always issues and will remain so; they even are issues for adobe. BTW, my version 4 photoshop produced such lousy pdf, that even viewers complain -) >> Have you really checked that it is not possible to make >> the output of dvipdfm and of pdftex acceptable to FastTrack >> by printing to PS file and redistilling?? Apart from a few bugs [e.g. with closing paths] pdftops [in xpdf suite] does a good job for going to ps. We use it here for driving the printer. >> Finally, do you believe dvipdfm and pdftex currently produce pdf >> that has detectable/objective faults? Which? It depends what you include. If I add shading, exchange 3 complains, but that's because it's a level 1.3 feature. > Visually detectable, no. However, there are faults detectable by >Acrobat exchange. What exchange? Mac, Windows, Linux? They differ -) I bet Thanh spent more time on making exchange happy that solving pdftex related bugs. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jul-2000 18:15:28-GMT,2103;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02885 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:15:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01894 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:56:33 -0400 Received: from zevs.idi.ntnu.no (zevs.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.164.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01879 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:51:04 -0400 Received: from bryssel (dhcp-111-02.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.111.211]) by zevs.idi.ntnu.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA12087 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:53:27 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <009301bfea97$aa425b60$d36ff181@bryssel> From: "Magnus Lie Hetland" <mlh@idi.ntnu.no> To: <pdftex@tug.org> References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007101333020.1599-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> Subject: Re: Suggestions for pdfscreen Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:52:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > : 1. The "Full Screen" button is (as you surely know) hardcoded [...] > Fixed now, though I do not know the equivalent of Full Screen in other > languages which pdfscreen supports now. Users of other languages may > kindly send the equivalent in their languages. I guessed that that would be a problem... :) Norwegian (direct translation; no really good Norwegian term): "Full skjerm" You could use the same for nynorsk. > slide environment has been redefined in the print option to look like a > shadow boxed stuff. Sounds good. :) > > : Well - that's all (for now). Thank you for a great package. :)) > > Thanks for the generous complments. You're welcome. -- Magnus Lie Hetland (magnus at hetland dot org) "A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring." (Alexander Pope) 10-Jul-2000 18:47:19-GMT,2293;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03704 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:47:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01949 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:12:28 -0400 Received: from zevs.idi.ntnu.no (zevs.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.164.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01938 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:08:19 -0400 Received: from bryssel (dhcp-111-02.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.111.211]) by zevs.idi.ntnu.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA12594 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:11:44 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <00c701bfea9a$381c38a0$d36ff181@bryssel> From: "Magnus Lie Hetland" <mlh@idi.ntnu.no> To: <pdftex@tug.org> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007100759220.32485-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:11:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > > Where commercial software is concerned I am willing to bet that PDF > > is NOT what the vague PDF documentation describes but rather narrowly > > what Distiller outputs and what Exchange accepts. > > That's exactly my point. If you accept that as a definition of PDF, > then dvipdfm, gs, and pdftex do not produce valid PDF. Hm. My note about pdfTeX outperforming distiller referred mainly to some problems I have had with graphics (bitmap fonts etc aside.) I had made a simple test figure in MetaPost (the PostScript output was perfectly valid - I read it myself :) As far as I remember, all of dvipdfm, gs and pdftex (not sure I tested with gs) worked fine - but Acrobat Distiller fouled up the graphics, closing curves that weren't closed etc. This may be a fluke, but at least it didn't exactly boost my confidence in the distiller :) -- Magnus Lie Hetland (magnus at hetland dot org) "A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring." (Alexander Pope) 10-Jul-2000 15:11:23-GMT,2825;000000000011 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27801 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:11:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01332 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:55:41 -0400 Received: from gw.aerojetpd.com (gort.aerojet.com [198.211.213.51]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01329 for <pdfTeX@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:55:37 -0400 Received: (from smapu@localhost) by gw.aerojetpd.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id HAA05973 for <pdfTeX@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mihub.aerojetpd.com(144.217.13.36) by gw.aerojetpd.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005867; Mon Jul 10 07:58:27 2000 Received: from azu-mail2.aes.com ([159.4.100.115]) by neon.aerojetpd.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA8398 for <pdfTeX@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:58:27 -0700 Received: by azu-mail2.aes.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <M83K800X>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:58:26 -0700 Message-ID: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C756454461967A@azu-mail01.aes.com> From: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) To: "'pdfTeX@tug.org'" <pdfTeX@tug.org> Subject: RE: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:58:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have no idea what lies behind this policy specifically. I did notice, when we first started using pdfTeX (and distiller, btw) that there is a significant quality difference in the PDF file depending on how you include the fonts. While I would have to go back and dig out my technical notes (assuming I can find them :-), IIRC the basic issue was persuading the producing software to embed the Postscript font file, rather than a derived bitmap. -----Original Message----- From: John Lawless [mailto:jlawless@redwoodscientific.com] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:22 PM To: pdfTeX Subject: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion The following is from a NASA (the US space agency) request for proposals: "NASA requests that technical proposals be submitted in PDF format, and encourages companies to do so.... Unix and TeX users please note that due to PDF difficulties with non-standard fonts, please output technical proposal files in DVI format." Does anyone know what NASA is talking about here? Does this problem still exist or has it been fixed? Is the problem limited to Computer Modern fonts or does it apply to all TeX fonts (which have Knuth's strange encoding)? John P.S. The above quote is from: http://sbir.gsfc.nasa.gov/SBIR/sbir2000/phase1/solicitation/chapter6.html#6.2 10-Jul-2000 16:47:46-GMT,3153;000000000001 Return-Path: <beebe@csc-sun.math.utah.edu> Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00378; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:47:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17061; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:46:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:46:57 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" <beebe@math.utah.edu> To: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, "'pdfTeX@tug.org'" <pdfTeX@tug.org> X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: RE: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:58:24 -0700 Message-ID: <CMM.0.92.0.963247617.beebe@suncore.math.utah.edu> John Lawless [mailto:jlawless@redwoodscientific.com] writing on Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:22 PM asks about a NASA policy: >> ... >> "NASA requests that technical proposals be submitted in PDF format, and >> encourages companies to do so.... Unix and TeX users please note that due >> to PDF difficulties with non-standard fonts, please output technical >> proposal files in DVI format." >> >> Does anyone know what NASA is talking about here? >> ... This is almost certainly due to the unnecessarily poor quality of bitmapped font display by Acrobat Reader 3 and 4. For further information, visit http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/fonts/outline-vs-bitmap-fonts.html It is certainly possible to force some DVI-to-PostScript drivers to use outline fonts, rather than bitmap fonts, but that usually doesn't happen by default at most sites, and some users lack the expertise to accomplish it. Also, doing this then reveals another problem with Acrobat 3: it can incorrectly remap characters in math fonts. There have been similar problems with the U.S. National Science Foundation Fastlane Project for grant proposals. Publishers often want .dvi files, together with separate .eps figure files, rather than just a PostScript or PDF file, because they can then tune the .eps files for better quality on high-resolution phototypesetters. What looks fine on the author's laser printer may be terrible on a phototypesetter, especially for filled regions, bitmap scans, and continuous tone images. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jul-2000 16:56:37-GMT,3679;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00647 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:56:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01716 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:44:13 -0400 Received: from csc-sun.math.utah.edu (root@csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01713 for <pdfTeX@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:43:41 -0400 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00378; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:47:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17061; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:46:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:46:57 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" <beebe@math.utah.edu> To: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, "'pdfTeX@tug.org'" <pdfTeX@tug.org> X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: RE: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:58:24 -0700 Message-ID: <CMM.0.92.0.963247617.beebe@suncore.math.utah.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk John Lawless [mailto:jlawless@redwoodscientific.com] writing on Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:22 PM asks about a NASA policy: >> ... >> "NASA requests that technical proposals be submitted in PDF format, and >> encourages companies to do so.... Unix and TeX users please note that due >> to PDF difficulties with non-standard fonts, please output technical >> proposal files in DVI format." >> >> Does anyone know what NASA is talking about here? >> ... This is almost certainly due to the unnecessarily poor quality of bitmapped font display by Acrobat Reader 3 and 4. For further information, visit http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/fonts/outline-vs-bitmap-fonts.html It is certainly possible to force some DVI-to-PostScript drivers to use outline fonts, rather than bitmap fonts, but that usually doesn't happen by default at most sites, and some users lack the expertise to accomplish it. Also, doing this then reveals another problem with Acrobat 3: it can incorrectly remap characters in math fonts. There have been similar problems with the U.S. National Science Foundation Fastlane Project for grant proposals. Publishers often want .dvi files, together with separate .eps figure files, rather than just a PostScript or PDF file, because they can then tune the .eps files for better quality on high-resolution phototypesetters. What looks fine on the author's laser printer may be terrible on a phototypesetter, especially for filled regions, bitmap scans, and continuous tone images. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Jul-2000 19:52:37-GMT,2420;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05387 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02188 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:23:34 -0400 Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02185; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:23:32 -0400 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id PAA17815; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:26:34 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from isptechinc.com (w004.z064000223.phl-pa.dsl.cnc.net [64.0.223.4]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id PAA12851; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <396A2368.72B5FD70@isptechinc.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:26:32 -0400 From: Matthew Donadio <donadio@isptechinc.com> Organization: Image & Signal Processing, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdflatex is cutting off braces? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I am having a strange problem, and I'm not sure what is causing it. System: pdftex-13d (latest teTeX distribution) under Solaris 2.6 Acrobat 4.0 under WinNT 4SP6 I have a LaTeX document with some equations in it. When I do file -> latex -> xdvi the document looks ok. If I do file -> latex -> dvips -> distiller then it also looks and prints fine. If I do file -> pdflatex -> acrobat then it looks ok on the screen, but taller braces and parens are getting chopped off (like parens around a \frac). Circle edges are also getting chopped off in the LaTeX picture environment. A file that is showing this is http://usrs.snip.net/~donadio/cic.pdf In particular, equation 18 does. I looked through the mailing list archive, and didn't see anything. Any ideas as to what is causing this would be appreciated. -- Matt Donadio (donadio@isptechinc.com) | 43 Leopard Rd, Suite 102 Sr. Software Engineer | Paoli, PA 19301-1552 Image & Signal Processing, Inc. | Phone: +1 610 407 4391 http://www.isptechinc.com | FAX: +1 610 407 4405 10-Jul-2000 20:17:43-GMT,2208;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06007 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:17:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02266 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:53:30 -0400 Received: from elch.de.uu.net (elch.de.uu.net [192.76.144.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02263 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:53:15 -0400 Received: from gmx.de (pec-151.au1.b.uunet.de [149.228.255.151]) by elch.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id VAA16904; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:53:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <396A2A6D.4CAC67FD@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:56:29 +0200 From: Tobias Burnus <burnus@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [de] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, it, en, nl, fr-FR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Donadio <donadio@isptechinc.com>, "pdftex@tug.org" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: pdflatex is cutting off braces? References: <396A2368.72B5FD70@isptechinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Matthew, > I am having a strange problem, and I'm not sure what is causing it. > System: pdftex-13d (latest teTeX distribution) under Solaris 2.6 Note: Current is 0.14f-* > Acrobat 4.0 under WinNT 4SP6 Here I use AR 4.0 for Linux. > then it also looks and prints fine. If I do > file -> pdflatex -> acrobat > then it looks ok on the screen, but taller braces and parens are getting > chopped off (like parens around a \frac). Circle edges are also getting > chopped off in the LaTeX picture environment. A file that is showing > this is > http://usrs.snip.net/~donadio/cic.pdf http://users.snip.net/~donadio/cic.pdf > In particular, equation 18 does. I looked through the mailing list > archive, and didn't see anything. Any ideas as to what is causing this > would be appreciated. I cannot see anything which looks odd using your file and displaying it with AR under Linux. Can you put a screen shot or so at your URL? I cannot imagine what goes wrong. Tobias 10-Jul-2000 20:18:33-GMT,2796;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06033 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:18:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02295 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:59:13 -0400 Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02292; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:59:09 -0400 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id QAA29736; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:02:09 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from isptechinc.com (w004.z064000223.phl-pa.dsl.cnc.net [64.0.223.4]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id QAA27206; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <396A2BBF.CD0BFEB8@isptechinc.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:02:07 -0400 From: Matthew Donadio <donadio@isptechinc.com> Organization: Image & Signal Processing, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobias Burnus <burnus@gmx.de> CC: "pdftex@tug.org" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: pdflatex is cutting off braces? References: <396A2368.72B5FD70@isptechinc.com> <396A2A6D.4CAC67FD@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Tobias Burnus wrote: > > If I do > > file -> pdflatex -> acrobat > > then it looks ok on the screen, but taller braces and parens are getting > > chopped off (like parens around a \frac). Circle edges are also getting > > chopped off in the LaTeX picture environment. A file that is showing > > this is > http://users.snip.net/~donadio/cic.pdf Thanks. That is the correct URL. > > In particular, equation 18 does. I looked through the mailing list > > archive, and didn't see anything. Any ideas as to what is causing this > > would be appreciated. > I cannot see anything which looks odd using your file and displaying it > with AR under Linux. Can you put a screen shot or so at your URL? I > cannot > imagine what goes wrong. Oops. I guess I didn't do a careful job proofreading before I sent that. If I do file -> pdflatex -> acrobat then it looks ok on the screen, but taller braces and parens are getting chopped off (like parens around a \frac) when I print. Circle edges are also getting chopped off in the LaTeX picture environment when printed. -- Matt Donadio (donadio@isptechinc.com) | 43 Leopard Rd, Suite 102 Sr. Software Engineer | Paoli, PA 19301-1552 Image & Signal Processing, Inc. | Phone: +1 610 407 4391 http://www.isptechinc.com | FAX: +1 610 407 4405 10-Jul-2000 20:26:37-GMT,2197;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06273 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:26:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02346 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:14:35 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02343 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:14:32 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13Bjst-0004ob-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:10:31 +0100 Received: from max60.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.60] helo=spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13Bjsp-0008GO-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:10:29 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14698.10804.97.212267@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:55:31 +0100 (BST) To: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] In-Reply-To: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C756454461967E@azu-mail01.aes.com> References: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C756454461967E@azu-mail01.aes.com> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Wroth, Mark writes: > SR> c) i know better than anyone that jadetex has limitations > > But its limitations may or may not be important for this > application. its major limitation is in the sophistication of its table handling. since HTMLers tend to use tables like I eat chocolate, its fairly bad news > people find it useful. I'll bow to Sebastian's opinion on the > details, though, since he is the current maintainer of JadeTeX > AFAIK. "maintainer" is a grand word for someone who wrote the thing as an academic exercise and is now stuck with supporting it apparently for ever... sebastian 10-Jul-2000 20:26:49-GMT,2198;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06279 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:26:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02353 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:14:59 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02349 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:14:57 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13BjtK-0001Zs-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:10:58 +0100 Received: from max60.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.60] helo=spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13BjtJ-0005K4-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:10:58 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14698.10804.97.212267@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:55:31 +0100 (BST) To: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] In-Reply-To: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C756454461967E@azu-mail01.aes.com> References: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C756454461967E@azu-mail01.aes.com> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Wroth, Mark writes: > SR> c) i know better than anyone that jadetex has limitations > > But its limitations may or may not be important for this > application. its major limitation is in the sophistication of its table handling. since HTMLers tend to use tables like I eat chocolate, its fairly bad news > people find it useful. I'll bow to Sebastian's opinion on the > details, though, since he is the current maintainer of JadeTeX > AFAIK. "maintainer" is a grand word for someone who wrote the thing as an academic exercise and is now stuck with supporting it apparently for ever... sebastian 10-Jul-2000 20:30:46-GMT,2115;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06374 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:30:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02358 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:15:05 -0400 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02352 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:14:59 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1b-105-105.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.6.105] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13Bk0a-0001NZ-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:18:29 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13Bk5u-0005uG-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:23:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:23:58 -0700 From: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> To: "Mark A. Wicks" <mwicks@kettering.edu> Cc: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Message-ID: <20000710132358.A22667@redwoodscientific.com> References: <022b01bfe99e$0a51c9a0$d36ff181@bryssel> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007091529020.28691-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007091529020.28691-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Mark, > As long as people stick with the historical TeX fonts and \special > commands (which they usually do) the DVI format is extremely well-defined > and unambiguous. For output intended for PDF, I understand that Times is a good choice. Do you know if Y&Y's mathtime fonts (which are intended for use with Times) be the kind of nonstandard font that would cause problems if embedded? Also, NSF requires PDF files to "subset fonts at a threshold of 100%" They singled out TeX->PDF files as failing on this. Do pdftex and dvipdfm meet this requirement? (The threshold requirement is mentioned at: http://www.fastlane.nsf.gov/a1/pdfcreat.htm#Alwayssubsetfontsatathreshold ) John 10-Jul-2000 20:36:28-GMT,2302;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06509 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:36:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02389 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:22:34 -0400 Received: from elch.de.uu.net (elch.de.uu.net [192.76.144.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02385 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:22:00 -0400 Received: from gmx.de (pec-11.au1.b.uunet.de [149.228.255.11]) by elch.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id WAA06960; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:21:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <396A312A.B220A9E7@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:25:14 +0200 From: Tobias Burnus <burnus@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [de] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, it, en, nl, fr-FR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Donadio <donadio@isptechinc.com> CC: "pdftex@tug.org" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: pdflatex is cutting off braces? References: <396A2368.72B5FD70@isptechinc.com> <396A2A6D.4CAC67FD@gmx.de> <396A2BBF.CD0BFEB8@isptechinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Matthew, > > I cannot see anything which looks odd using your file and displaying it > > with AR under Linux. Can you put a screen shot or so at your URL? I > > cannot imagine what goes wrong. > Oops. I guess I didn't do a careful job proofreading before I sent > that. > If I do > file -> pdflatex -> acrobat > then it looks ok on the screen, but taller braces and parens are getting > chopped off (like parens around a \frac) when I print. Circle edges are > also getting chopped off in the LaTeX picture environment when printed. Ok I tried is now with Acrobat Reader/Linux to print and (18) looks ok with AR->Postscript->Ghostscript->HP LJ 6L. Well I have to admitt that Ghostscript did the most of the work, but such is live under Unix. Can you try to view your file with Ghostscript? (I can imagine that this is one odd AR printerdriver bug, I remember that I had a PDF file which stoked fency MP lines (made by Hans) viewed ok with AR 3.x/Win, but printed as small thin line. Using Ghostscript everything was ok.) Tobias 10-Jul-2000 20:47:27-GMT,1823;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06772 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:47:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02433 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:32:28 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02430 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:32:26 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23175; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:35:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky <tjk@ams.org> To: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> cc: "Mark A. Wicks" <mwicks@kettering.edu>, pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion In-Reply-To: <20000710132358.A22667@redwoodscientific.com> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10007101632430.21525-100000@sun06.ams.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > Also, NSF requires PDF files to "subset fonts at a threshold of 100%" > They singled out TeX->PDF files as failing on this. Do pdftex and dvipdfm > meet this requirement? > The singling out of TeX is a red herring. There are plenty of other word processors/PDF converters that have font problems... pdftex and dvipdfm meet the subsetting requirements, as does dvips, if one pays attention to details. There should be detailed documentation on getting dvips to "do the right thing" listed from the jump point for the documentation you list below > (The threshold requirement is mentioned at: > http://www.fastlane.nsf.gov/a1/pdfcreat.htm#Alwayssubsetfontsatathreshold ) > > John > 10-Jul-2000 20:57:45-GMT,2438;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07080 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:57:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02455 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:48:53 -0400 Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02452; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:48:51 -0400 Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id QAA27737; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:51:54 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from isptechinc.com (w004.z064000223.phl-pa.dsl.cnc.net [64.0.223.4]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id QAA17769; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <396A3769.C8151640@isptechinc.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:51:53 -0400 From: Matthew Donadio <donadio@isptechinc.com> Organization: Image & Signal Processing, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobias Burnus <burnus@gmx.de> CC: "pdftex@tug.org" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: pdflatex is cutting off braces? References: <396A2368.72B5FD70@isptechinc.com> <396A2A6D.4CAC67FD@gmx.de> <396A2BBF.CD0BFEB8@isptechinc.com> <396A312A.B220A9E7@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Tobias Burnus wrote: > Ok I tried is now with Acrobat Reader/Linux to print and (18) looks ok > with AR->Postscript->Ghostscript->HP LJ 6L. Well I have to admitt that > Ghostscript did the most of the work, but such is live under Unix. > Can you try to view your file with Ghostscript? > (I can imagine that this is one odd AR printerdriver bug, I remember > that > I had a PDF file which stoked fency MP lines (made by Hans) viewed ok > with AR 3.x/Win, but printed as small thin line. Using Ghostscript > everything was ok.) Thanks to all who replied. The document printed fine with GSView, so it looks like the Acroread 4.0 print driver is the problem. -- Matt Donadio (donadio@isptechinc.com) | 43 Leopard Rd, Suite 102 Sr. Software Engineer | Paoli, PA 19301-1552 Image & Signal Processing, Inc. | Phone: +1 610 407 4391 http://www.isptechinc.com | FAX: +1 610 407 4405 11-Jul-2000 6:53:30-GMT,2650;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19920 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:53:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA03526 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 01:42:05 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03523 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 01:42:02 -0400 Received: from max178.public.ox.ac.uk (max178.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.178]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA18542; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:45:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:42:46 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley <ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk> To: Matthew Donadio <donadio@isptechinc.com> cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdflatex is cutting off braces? In-Reply-To: <396A2368.72B5FD70@isptechinc.com> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10007110738030.17317-100000@auk.stats> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Matthew Donadio wrote: > Hi all, > > I am having a strange problem, and I'm not sure what is causing it. > > System: pdftex-13d (latest teTeX distribution) under Solaris 2.6 > Acrobat 4.0 under WinNT 4SP6 Try 4.05. It is almost always worth having the latest Adobe offering. There is a patch on their Web site, too, so mine is something like 4.05a1. > I have a LaTeX document with some equations in it. When I do > > file -> latex -> xdvi > > the document looks ok. If I do > > file -> latex -> dvips -> distiller > > then it also looks and prints fine. If I do > > file -> pdflatex -> acrobat > > then it looks ok on the screen, but taller braces and parens are getting > chopped off (like parens around a \frac). Circle edges are also getting > chopped off in the LaTeX picture environment. A file that is showing > this is > > http://usrs.snip.net/~donadio/cic.pdf > > In particular, equation 18 does. I looked through the mailing list > archive, and didn't see anything. Any ideas as to what is causing this > would be appreciated. I seem to recall this is printer-driver related and supposedly fixed in Acrobat 4.05 (and presumably in Acroread 4.05 too). -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 11-Jul-2000 7:59:34-GMT,2569;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21114 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 01:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA03653 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:47:30 -0400 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03648 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:47:28 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.84]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FXIWG801.Z00; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:50:32 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000711094115.0169d530@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:41:15 +0200 To: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: RE: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Floyd Maxwell" <floyd@vortexsoft.com>] Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <14698.10804.97.212267@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C756454461967E@azu-mail01.aes.com> <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C756454461967E@azu-mail01.aes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:55 PM 7/10/00 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: >Wroth, Mark writes: > > SR> c) i know better than anyone that jadetex has limitations > > > > But its limitations may or may not be important for this > > application. > >its major limitation is in the sophistication of its table >handling. since HTMLers tend to use tables like I eat chocolate, its >fairly bad news Even worse, the specs vary and viewers even more. Anyhow, i'm in the process of writing a third table mechanism in context, which follows the html syntax. Works reasonable well. [for my own satisfaction i also handle fancy backgrounds and so] The good news is that since the standards for what may be called chocolate have become less restrictive in the EU recently, you will accept anything that looks like a table as such. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jul-2000 7:59:40-GMT,2427;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21121 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 01:59:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA03650 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:47:28 -0400 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03645 for <pdfTeX@tug.org>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:47:26 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.84]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FXIWG601.ZZX; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:50:30 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000711092101.00b2fdf0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:21:01 +0200 To: MARK.WROTH@aerojet.com (Wroth, Mark) From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: RE: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Cc: "'pdfTeX@tug.org'" <pdfTeX@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <9976F68AE900D411B3870008C756454461967A@azu-mail01.aes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 07:58 AM 7/10/00 -0700, Wroth, Mark wrote: >I have no idea what lies behind this policy specifically. > >I did notice, when we first started using pdfTeX (and distiller, btw) that there is a significant quality difference in the PDF file depending on how you include the fonts. While I would have to go back and dig out my technical notes (assuming I can find them :-), IIRC the basic issue was persuading the producing software to embed the Postscript font file, rather than a derived bitmap. Depending on the way a font is included, acrobat will use system (platform) fonts or embedded ones. Using unique font names was a solution. In some cases it will approximate using multiple masters. The most recent versions also substitute the base 15 fonts with system ones, so it starts making sense to embed real times and helvetica's etc too. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Jul-2000 7:59:48-GMT,3514;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21127 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 01:59:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA03644 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:47:25 -0400 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03641 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:47:23 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.84]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FXIWG901.Z01; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:50:33 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000711094850.016939c0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:48:50 +0200 To: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Cc: "Mark A. Wicks" <mwicks@kettering.edu>, pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> In-Reply-To: <20000710132358.A22667@redwoodscientific.com> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007091529020.28691-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> <022b01bfe99e$0a51c9a0$d36ff181@bryssel> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007091529020.28691-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 01:23 PM 7/10/00 -0700, John Lawless wrote: >Mark, > >> As long as people stick with the historical TeX fonts and \special >> commands (which they usually do) the DVI format is extremely well-defined >> and unambiguous. > > For output intended for PDF, I understand that Times is a good choice. >Do you know if Y&Y's mathtime fonts (which are intended for use with Times) >be the kind of nonstandard font that would cause problems if embedded? > > Also, NSF requires PDF files to "subset fonts at a threshold of 100%" >They singled out TeX->PDF files as failing on this. Do pdftex and dvipdfm >meet this requirement? > >(The threshold requirement is mentioned at: > http://www.fastlane.nsf.gov/a1/pdfcreat.htm#Alwayssubsetfontsatathreshold ) Are those specs there because other programs fail (i.e. pdfwriter with msword) or are they meant for tex? I really wonder if any one could see [given that he/she looks in the pdf file] to what extend a font is subsetted. Do they also demand pdf's not to use char <=32 for used chars? In that respect pdftex is more clever than distiller I suppose. This kind of discussions remind me of one I had recently: question: "we want dirstribute word docs as pdf" answer: "ok, convert them" q: "yes, but since those word docs are so large, and take so much bandwidth, we've decided to put the graphics in separate files and need hyperlinks to them", a: "why do that, since pdf only uploads the page and info needed" q: "well, i don't care, the system people want to split up", a: "go ahead and do it yourself". This font talk to me sounds like "we need to make sure that word cum suis docs are pdf'ed all right, this and that trick works, so let's demand them from all". Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jul-2000 18:42:53-GMT,1822;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05167 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:42:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07698 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:32:49 -0400 Received: from [132.159.119.2] ([132.159.126.24]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA07695 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:32:14 -0400 Received: from LEE-IS-002 by [132.159.119.2] via smtpd (for [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 12 Jul 2000 18:37:28 UT Received: by LEE-IS-002 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <N9DW9V3P>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:31:46 -0400 Message-ID: <21E592FA8BA7D311B5B100062B001FE2CCDE4E@LEE2> From: "McAllaster, Douglas L. LTC" <mcallasterd@LEE.ARMY.MIL> To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: help for novice in central VA Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:39:28 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Would someone in central VA help me get started? I'm interested in LaTeX to PDF. I have the TexLive4 CD up and running. I just want to typeset some very simple equations (high school algebra level stuff). I have successfully run pdflatex to produce one small simple equation. Problems so far: margins don't work, landscape doesn't work and PDF output files seem much, much larger than they should be. I you send suggestions via email. Please be very elementary (& gentle). I would appreciate actual code, I can cut & paste. Also, I'd like a recommendation on which example or sample files on the TexLiveCD are most helpful for a beginning novice. It seems there are many samples/examples. thx to all. LTC Doug McAllaster mcallasterd@Lee.army.mil 804-765-4262 12-Jul-2000 19:21:58-GMT,2671;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06150 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:21:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07743 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:00:18 -0400 Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07740 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:00:15 -0400 Received: from biology.usu.edu (129.123.16.3 [129.123.16.3]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 3BCG0R9X; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:03:55 -0600 Message-ID: <396CC175.9D886A99@biology.usu.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:05:25 -0600 From: "James W. Haefner" <jhaefner@biology.usu.edu> Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Rotate text? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk [I had difficulties with my subscription to this list and I'd really like an answer to this question, so I am resending it. Apologies if you receive it twice.] Can pdftex+acrobat rotate text as is possible using dvips? I haven't seen this discussed here or in the manual, and apologize if it's obvious. Thanks to the help from the list I now know 4 different methods to create slides that can be sent to a slidemaker. But the camera is in a fixed orientation (horizontal for landscape images), and I have a long skinny table I would like to get on 1 camera slide. The foils package can rotate using dvips, and ppower4, which uses foils, does a good job of creating slides, but I don't see how to use the \rotatefoilhead{} function when compiling with pdflatex. Changing the screen dimensions to be portrait will not help since I can't rotate the camera. I would be happy with a solution that required a separate file of portrait rotated pdf images, as opposed to rotation inside a single file of images. Of course this problem is irrelevant to computer projected presentations, since normally we don't rotate the monitor to read comfortably rotated text, but with physical slides, we have that option. And slide projection is still used in some more backward parts of the world, such as where I live. Jim Haefner -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 13-Jul-2000 0:09:58-GMT,2472;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13040 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08684 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:38:10 -0400 Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (root@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu [128.46.161.85]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08681 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:38:09 -0400 Received: from ecn.purdue.edu (hersh.nserl.purdue.edu [128.210.150.223]) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3moyman) with ESMTP id SAA17569 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:41:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <396D0229.27BABDCD@ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:41:29 -0500 From: Frederic Darboux <darboux@ecn.purdue.edu> Organization: NSERL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Problem with graphic inclusion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello. Some weeks ago, I sent a message to the list because I was unable to insert correctly pictures using pdfTex. I received messages stating I should use a recent version of pdftex. I have just installed a recent version from Texlive5c ("This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2c 7.3.2x)"). I updated the file pdftex.def (0.02v). The result was slightly improved, but I cannot considered it as satisfying. For the test, I am using : \documentclass{report} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} \includegraphics{optics2.png} \includegraphics{optics2.jpg} \includegraphics{optics2.pdf} \end{document} The png, jpg and pdf files were created with convert (ImageMagick) and look fine when displayed with a dedicated software. Nevertheless, in the resulting pdf file, the png and jpg graphics are not displayed correctly : they are squizzed vertically. The pdf file has the right geometry, but is in the bottom left-hand corner of the page. If you have any suggestion... Thanks Frederic Darboux ....................................................... National Soil Erosion Research Laboratory 1196 SOIL Building Purdue University West Lafayette, Indiana, 47907-1196 USA Ph: (765) 494-6645 Fax: (765) 494-5948 Email: darboux@ecn.purdue.edu Web: <http://topsoil.nserl.purdue.edu/nserlweb/> 13-Jul-2000 8:07:02-GMT,4142;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22452 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:07:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA09449 for pdftex-list; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:59:58 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09446 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:59:56 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13Cdy7-0003a7-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:03:39 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13Cdy8-00002t-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:03:40 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: forwarded message Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14701.30691.537191.900382@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:03:47 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: forwarded message from owner-pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Return-path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Envelope-to: rahtz@ermine.ox.ac.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:44:04 +0100 Received: from dns0.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.1] helo=oxmail.ox.ac.uk) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13CYyq-0006OJ-00 for rahtz@ermine.ox.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:44:04 +0100 Received: from tug.org ([158.121.106.10]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13CYyp-0000Cb-00 for sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:44:03 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08871; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:40:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200007130140.VAA08871@tug.org> From: owner-pdftex@tug.org To: owner-pdftex@tug.org Subject: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com>] Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:40:16 -0400 >From sebastian.rahtz Wed Jul 12 21:40:15 2000 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08868 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:40:14 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1a-101-165.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.15.165] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13CYyx-00036M-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:44:11 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13CZ4F-00081K-00; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:49:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:49:39 -0700 From: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> To: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: "Number too big" on jpg, png Message-ID: <20000712194939.A30787@redwoodscientific.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i I have a bitmap graphic generates a "Number too large" error under pdflatex when it is a jpg or png. If I convert it to pdf, then pdflatex works fine. (The same .tex file also works fine under standard latex with the graphic in .eps format.) What causes this? A partial log file follows: - - - - - - - - - This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2C 7.3.2x) (format=pdflatex 2000.7.12) 12 JUL 2000 19:23 **test2.tex (test2.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 ...[snip]... loading : Context Support Macros / PDF \nofMPsegments=\count113 \nofMParguments=\count114 ) Warning: pdflatex: arithmetic: number too big ! Dimension too large. <argument> \ht \@tempboxa l.26 ...graphics[width=\linewidth]{0111_002uv-exp} ? - - - - - - - - - The OS is Linux (Red Hat 6.1) with pdftex upgraded to 14f using Han The Thanh's binaries. The bitmap dimensions are 539x404 pixels (24-bit color). Thanks, John 13-Jul-2000 8:07:44-GMT,5834;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22475 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:07:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA09456 for pdftex-list; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:00:11 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09453 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:00:10 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13CdyL-0003aP-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:03:53 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13CdyM-00002y-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:03:54 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: forwarded message Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14701.30705.400418.654585@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:04:01 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: forwarded message from owner-pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Return-path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Envelope-to: rahtz@ermine.ox.ac.uk Delivery-date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:21:27 +0100 Received: from oxmail2.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.1] helo=oxmail.ox.ac.uk) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13CZZ0-0002uH-00 for rahtz@ermine.ox.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:21:26 +0100 Received: from tug.org ([158.121.106.10]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13CZZ0-0001nD-00 for sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:21:26 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA08900; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:17:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200007130217.WAA08900@tug.org> From: owner-pdftex@tug.org To: owner-pdftex@tug.org Subject: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com>] Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:17:42 -0400 >From sebastian.rahtz Wed Jul 12 22:17:41 2000 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08897 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:17:41 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1a-101-165.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.15.165] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13CZZB-0005sw-00; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:21:38 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13CZeT-00081q-00; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:27:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:27:05 -0700 From: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> To: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Cc: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Message-ID: <20000712202705.B30787@redwoodscientific.com> References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007091529020.28691-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> <022b01bfe99e$0a51c9a0$d36ff181@bryssel> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007091529020.28691-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> <20000710132358.A22667@redwoodscientific.com> <3.0.6.32.20000711094850.016939c0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000711094850.016939c0@pop.wxs.nl> Hans, NSF claims that both Adobe Distiller and, to a lesser extent, dvips have bad default options. I didn't detect a pro-Windows bias when reading through their requirements. For that matter, they single out Adobe pdfwriter as being particularly bad. Apparently, the Adobe products (by default) will resample graphics without warning the author, sometimes making things unusable. (I assume that pdftex & dvipdfm don't do that.) NSF processes, if memory serves, 300,000 proposals per year. They merge several PDFs together before sending them out to reviewers and NSF feels that they have to accommodate reviewers who are still using the Acrobat 3.x viewer. (Reviewers are volunteers.) This restricts them to PDF-1.2. Many of NSF's problems come from using Adobe Exchange 3.0 (on unix) to merge PDF files. Maybe some PDF expert could make a better PDF merge program,... As for the "100% subset threshold," I don't know what that means. I can guess that it means that all characters used in the document must be included in the PDF which seems reasonable. If you know more, I would be interested. John On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 09:48:50AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 01:23 PM 7/10/00 -0700, John Lawless wrote: > >(The threshold requirement is mentioned at: > > http://www.fastlane.nsf.gov/a1/pdfcreat.htm#Alwayssubsetfontsatathreshold ) > > Are those specs there because other programs fail (i.e. pdfwriter with > msword) or are they meant for tex? I really wonder if any one could see > [given that he/she looks in the pdf file] to what extend a font is > subsetted. Do they also demand pdf's not to use char <=32 for used chars? > In that respect pdftex is more clever than distiller I suppose. > > This kind of discussions remind me of one I had recently: question: "we > want dirstribute word docs as pdf" answer: "ok, convert them" q: "yes, but > since those word docs are so large, and take so much bandwidth, we've > decided to put the graphics in separate files and need hyperlinks to them", > a: "why do that, since pdf only uploads the page and info needed" q: "well, > i don't care, the system people want to split up", a: "go ahead and do it > yourself". This font talk to me sounds like "we need to make sure that word > cum suis docs are pdf'ed all right, this and that trick works, so let's > demand them from all". > > Hans 13-Jul-2000 9:44:49-GMT,1747;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24107 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:44:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09619 for pdftex-list; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:38:49 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.109]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09616 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:38:39 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA12756 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:14:50 +0530 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:08:42 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V <cvr@river-valley.com> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com>] In-Reply-To: <200007130140.VAA08871@tug.org> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007131503060.2076-100000@narmada.river-valley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 owner-pdftex@tug.org wrote: : the graphic in .eps format.) What causes this? : It is a bug in the pdfTeX, which was fixed by Thanh now. Grab the latest release of pdfTeX. This issue was discussed in the list two months' back. : Warning: pdflatex: arithmetic: number too big : ! Dimension too large. : <argument> \ht \@tempboxa : : l.26 ...graphics[width=\linewidth]{0111_002uv-exp} : : ? In the meantime, you can give \pdfimageresolution=72 This will fix your problem temporarily. -- Radhakrishnan 13-Jul-2000 9:57:06-GMT,2762;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24283 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:57:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09633 for pdftex-list; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:50:06 -0400 Received: from mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (root@mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09628 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 04:50:00 -0400 Received: from spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.19]) by mailserver2.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07583 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:53:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.5.40]) by spelunke.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16110 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:52:54 +0200 Received: (from gunterma@localhost) by sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA00734; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:52:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14701.37237.780229.195634@sprudel.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:52:53 +0200 (MET DST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: "Number too big" on jpg, png (was: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com>]) In-Reply-To: <200007130140.VAA08871@tug.org> References: <200007130140.VAA08871@tug.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk John Lawless writes: > I have a bitmap graphic generates a "Number too large" error under > pdflatex when it is a jpg or png. If I convert it to pdf, then pdflatex > works fine. (The same .tex file also works fine under standard latex with > the graphic in .eps format.) What causes this? I assume that this is caused by the scaling factor and a problem in widely spread versions of supp-pdf.tex. You may need at least version=2000.04.28 to fix that. It helped for me when I tried that in April. This file is still outdated on CTAN (version=1997.05.21). and on ww.tug.org (version=1998.10.15). Try to get it from Hans Hagen's site (www.pragma-ade.nl) as part of ConTeXt. Regards, Klaus -- Klaus Guntermann <guntermann@iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> FG Systemprogrammierung, FB Informatik, TU Darmstadt Wilhelminenstr. 7, D-64283 Darmstadt 13-Jul-2000 12:56:17-GMT,3663;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27596 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:56:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09859 for pdftex-list; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:47:44 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09856 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:47:42 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.7]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FXMZPJ01.YBZ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:51:19 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000713113915.00b40c90@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:39:15 +0200 To: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: NASA slams TeX->PDF file conversion Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20000712202705.B30787@redwoodscientific.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20000711094850.016939c0@pop.wxs.nl> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007091529020.28691-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> <022b01bfe99e$0a51c9a0$d36ff181@bryssel> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10007091529020.28691-100000@gaspra.kettering.edu> <20000710132358.A22667@redwoodscientific.com> <3.0.6.32.20000711094850.016939c0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:27 PM 7/12/00 -0700, you wrote: > NSF claims that both Adobe Distiller and, to a lesser extent, dvips >have bad default options. I didn't detect a pro-Windows bias when reading >through their requirements. For that matter, they single out Adobe >pdfwriter as being particularly bad. Apparently, the Adobe products (by >default) will resample graphics without warning the author, sometimes making >things unusable. (I assume that pdftex & dvipdfm don't do that.) You can add a file in the distiller start up path that changes those defaults. Of course there are some obscure ways that distiller processes some files, but it can be made to work. > NSF processes, if memory serves, 300,000 proposals per year. They merge >several PDFs together before sending them out to reviewers and NSF feels >that they have to accommodate reviewers who are still using the Acrobat 3.x >viewer. (Reviewers are volunteers.) This restricts them to PDF-1.2. pdftex output is still 100% 1.2, but permits one to embed 1.3 pdf stuff, therefore is tagged 1.3 > Many of NSF's problems come from using Adobe Exchange 3.0 (on unix) to >merge PDF files. Maybe some PDF expert could make a better PDF merge >program,... One can use pdftex for that quite conveniently (which is what I do) with many advantages. > As for the "100% subset threshold," I don't know what that means. I >can guess that it means that all characters used in the document must be >included in the PDF which seems reasonable. If you know more, I would be >interested. Yes, something lime that. I set it to 99% to make sure that fonts are never embedded as a whole! This is needed for copyrighted fonts that may not be distributed as a whole. Meybe the 100 has a special undocumented meaning -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Jul-2000 16:04:33-GMT,2973;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01819 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:04:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10308 for pdftex-list; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:53:29 -0400 Received: from mail.SerNet.DE (exim@mail.SerNet.DE [193.159.217.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10305 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:53:27 -0400 Received: from intern.SerNet.DE by mail.SerNet.DE with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) for pdftex@tug.org id 13ClMN-0008Up-00; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:57:11 +0200 Received: by intern.SerNet.DE id 13ClMN-0000oP-00; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:57:11 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:57:11 +0200 From: Kevin Ivory <Ivory@SerNet.de> Organization: Service Network GmbH X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: hyperref for local files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <E13ClMN-0000oP-00@intern.SerNet.DE> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am not aware of a hyperref mailing list and all the competence seems to be reading and discussing here... I am trying to get pdflatex and hyperref (and url) to work with local files. url colors/boxes the links nicely but gives a "Cannot follow this relative link" Acrobat-error-box. My own newcommand file which uses \href works perfect but only if there is a '.' in the file name. Many unix files I might need to reference do not have a '.' in the filename, though. The error message Acrobat reader gives in this case is "There was an error opening this document. No such file or directory". The error must be introduced already when pdflatex-ing the file, since the colors/boxes are different for both. Here is a short example file that show what I am trying to explain. \documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article} \usepackage{hyperref} \newcommand{\file}[1]{\href{#1}{\texttt{#1}}} \begin{document} \url{/etc/fstab}\\ \url{/etc/rc.config}\\ \url{/etc/DIR_COLORS}\\ \file{/etc/mtab}\\ \file{/etc/passwd}\\ \file{/etc/group}\\ %\file{/etc/DIR_COLORS}\\ \file{/etc/motd}\\ \file{/etc/ld.so.conf}\\ \file{/etc/mailcap}\\ \file{/etc/mime.types}\\ \file{/etc/modules.conf}\\ \file{/etc/profile}\\ \file{/etc/shells}\\ \file{/etc/shadow}\\ \file{/etc/gshadow}\\ \file{/etc/ld.so.cache}\\ \file{/etc/hosts.allow}\\ \file{/etc/hosts.deny}\\ \file{/etc/hosts.equiv}\\ \file{/etc/hosts.lpd}\\ \file{/etc/inetd.conf}\\ \file{/etc/networks}\\ \file{/etc/protocols}\\ \file{/etc/services}\\ \file{/etc/identd.conf} \end{document} %%% Local Variables: %%% mode: latex %%% TeX-master: t %%% End: -- _ | Kevin Ivory | Tel: +49-551-37000041 |_ |\ | | Service Network GmbH | Fax: +49-551-3700009 ._|ER | \|ET | Bahnhofsallee 1b | mailto:Ivory@SerNet.de Service Network | D-37081 Goettingen | http://www.SerNet.de/ 14-Jul-2000 21:09:19-GMT,1710;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09720 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:09:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12786 for pdftex-list; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:00:38 -0400 Received: from pluto.wroclaw.top.pl (IDENT:root@pluto.wroclaw.top.pl [213.25.48.132]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12783 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:00:20 -0400 Received: (from sapi@localhost) by pluto.wroclaw.top.pl (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e6EL8AO02485; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:08:10 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: pluto.wroclaw.top.pl: sapi set sender to sapi@ldhpux.immt.pwr.wroc.pl using -f To: Ying-Jui Chen <yrchen@bu.edu> Cc: "James W . Haefner" <jhaefner@biology.usu.edu>, pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Re: pdflatex source for color slides References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007091423100.11569-100000@doraemon.bu.edu> From: Grzegorz Sapijaszko <sapi@ldhpux.immt.pwr.wroc.pl> Organization: home, sweet home Date: 14 Jul 2000 23:08:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: Ying-Jui Chen's message of "Sun, 9 Jul 2000 14:24:40 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: <m2d7kgo1xi.fsf@pluto.wroclaw.top.pl> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "YJ" == Ying-Jui Chen <yrchen@bu.edu> writes: >> [2] ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/sctug/pdftex/samplepdf.zip >> YJ> This URL does not exist. Could anyone advise? Thanks a lot! Sorry, the correct URL is: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdflatex/samplepdf.zip Greetings, Grzesiek 14-Jul-2000 21:15:58-GMT,1746;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09875 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:15:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12811 for pdftex-list; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:10:57 -0400 Received: from bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.141]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12808 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:10:55 -0400 Received: from che.utexas.edu (fischer.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.45]) by bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA34588 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: <396F82BA.9DFEA41@che.utexas.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:14:34 -0500 From: "Jeffrey J. Gray" <jeff@che.utexas.edu> Organization: Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Texas at Austin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/780) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: clip option in includegraphics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This pdftex@tug archive is wonderful! Y'all have solved many of my problems already... one I can't find though is how to get around this: \includegraphics[viewport=20 300 818 1098,clip,width=4in]{image} gives me: no clipping support in pdfTeX is there a workaround? somehow I suspect it's the same as that for PSfrag: compile a separate file with just the (cropped) image, dvips -E it, and then convert using epstopdf. I hope there's something easier though because I have several files to do... 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OTHERWISE PLEASE CALL OUR CUSTOMER SERCICE LINE. 19-Jul-2000 13:36:43-GMT,3861;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18313 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:36:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25755 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:15:15 -0400 Received: from tmpil001.tmp.allied.com (tmpil001.tmp.allied.com [198.80.19.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA25752 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:15:09 -0400 Received: from tmpnt701.allied.com (alliedsignal.com) by tmpil001.tmp.allied.com with SMTP id GAA05879 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for <pdftex@tug.org>); Wed, 19 Jul 2000 06:19:15 -0700 Received: from 165.195.14.21 by tmpnt701.allied.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 19 Jul 2000 06:15:00 -0700 Received: by sophb201.europe.allied.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3W23YZM6>; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:18:59 +0200 Message-Id: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F8388@GNNEX221> From: "Tourte, Gregory" <Gregory.TOURTE@honeywell.com> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: hyperref for local files Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:16:19 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Well I have find the explanation of the behaviour but not the solution nor where it happens! Apparently a file with not dot in the name is considered by default as a pdf file and acrobat look for file.pdf. if the file has a dot in the name it is considered as a url (which makes acrobat launching the browser under windoze)! It is likely due to hyperref but could find where after looking at the file. I know it does not help much but... G Tourte > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Ivory [mailto:Ivory@SerNet.de] > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 5:57 PM > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: hyperref for local files > > > I am not aware of a hyperref mailing list and all the competence > seems to be reading and discussing here... > > I am trying to get pdflatex and hyperref (and url) to work with > local files. url colors/boxes the links nicely but gives a "Cannot > follow this relative link" Acrobat-error-box. My own newcommand file > which uses \href works perfect but only if there is a '.' in the > file name. Many unix files I might need to reference do not have > a '.' in the filename, though. The error message Acrobat reader > gives in this case is "There was an error opening this document. > No such file or directory". The error must be introduced already > when pdflatex-ing the file, since the colors/boxes are different > for both. > > Here is a short example file that show what I am trying to explain. > > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article} > \usepackage{hyperref} > \newcommand{\file}[1]{\href{#1}{\texttt{#1}}} > > \begin{document} > \url{/etc/fstab}\\ > \url{/etc/rc.config}\\ > \url{/etc/DIR_COLORS}\\ > \file{/etc/mtab}\\ > \file{/etc/passwd}\\ > \file{/etc/group}\\ > %\file{/etc/DIR_COLORS}\\ > \file{/etc/motd}\\ > \file{/etc/ld.so.conf}\\ > \file{/etc/mailcap}\\ > \file{/etc/mime.types}\\ > \file{/etc/modules.conf}\\ > \file{/etc/profile}\\ > \file{/etc/shells}\\ > \file{/etc/shadow}\\ > \file{/etc/gshadow}\\ > \file{/etc/ld.so.cache}\\ > \file{/etc/hosts.allow}\\ > \file{/etc/hosts.deny}\\ > \file{/etc/hosts.equiv}\\ > \file{/etc/hosts.lpd}\\ > \file{/etc/inetd.conf}\\ > \file{/etc/networks}\\ > \file{/etc/protocols}\\ > \file{/etc/services}\\ > \file{/etc/identd.conf} > \end{document} > %%% Local Variables: > %%% mode: latex > %%% TeX-master: t > %%% End: > > -- > _ | Kevin Ivory | Tel: +49-551-37000041 > |_ |\ | | Service Network GmbH | Fax: +49-551-3700009 > ._|ER | \|ET | Bahnhofsallee 1b | mailto:Ivory@SerNet.de > Service Network | D-37081 Goettingen | http://www.SerNet.de/ > 20-Jul-2000 14:45:35-GMT,8465;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21484 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:45:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27561 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:09:53 -0400 Received: from orb.suntech.fr (root@orb.suntech.fr [195.154.116.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27558 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:09:50 -0400 Received: from joost (joost.suntech.fr [195.154.116.73]) by orb.suntech.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA22275; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:23:03 +0200 Message-ID: <003201bff254$89678220$49749ac3@suntech.fr> From: "Joost Faassen" <jfaassen@suntech.fr> To: <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> Cc: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Images in pdf. Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:12:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFF265.4CCEC060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFF265.4CCEC060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sebastian, I've found the following posting on the pdftex@tug.org list: ------------------- > Tudor Hulubei writes: >=20 > > I was wondering if it is possible to include pictures in pdf = documents=20 > > created with pdftex. Could someone please give me a hint? > > > thats why god gave you the documentation and FAQ at > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex --------- Heh, very funny, but it doesn't say anything in case it doesn't work... I've got normal working .texi file, when I add @image {imagename,,} to that file, where image name is an existing file in both the current = path and in my ~/.Tex/ directory... My env says: TEXINPUTS=3D:~/.TeX:/usr/doc/.TeX Now when I say: pdftex test.texi I get the following messages: (/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/texinfo/texinfo.tex (/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/texinfo/pdftexinfo.tex Loading texinfo [version 1999-03-26.17]: (/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/plain/misc/pdfcolor.tex) Basics, fonts, page headings, tables, conditionals, indexing, sectioning, toc, PDF = outlines, (test.toc) (test.toc) environments, defuns, macros, cross references, = (epsf.tex ) localization, and turning on texinfo input format.)) (test.aux) = [1[/var/lib/t exmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map]] [2] Chapter 1 ! Missing { inserted. <to be read again> n <argument> @pdfimage n exwave.pdf @centerline #1->@line {@hss #1 @hss } @imagexxx ... @else @centerline {@pdfimage #1.pdf} @fi @image ...sftrue @fi @else @imagexxx #1,,,@finish @fi l.36 @image{nexwave,,} ? (here I hit enter) Error: pdftex (file nexwave.pdf@hss ): cannot open image file as said, the file nexwave.pdf is both in the current working directory, = the directory of the .texi AND in the ~/.TeX/ I don't know where else = to put it anymore :) I hope anyone you could help me by telling me what I'm doing wrong... Thanks a bunch! Joost ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFF265.4CCEC060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Sebastian,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've found the following posting on the = <A=20 href=3D"mailto:pdftex@tug.org">pdftex@tug.org</A> list:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-------------------</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Tudor Hulubei = writes:<BR>> <BR> >=20 > I was wondering if it is possible to include pictures in pdf = documents <BR>=20 > > created with pdftex.  Could someone please give me a = hint?<BR>=20 > ><BR>> thats why god gave you the documentation and FAQ = at<BR>> <A=20 href=3D"http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex">http://www.tug.org/applic= ations/pdftex</A><BR>---------</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Heh, very funny, but it doesn't say = anything in=20 case it doesn't work...</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've got normal working .texi file, = when I=20 add</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>@image {imagename,,}</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to that file, where image name is an = existing file=20 in both the current path and in my ~/.Tex/ directory...</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My env says:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>TEXINPUTS=3D:~/.TeX:/usr/doc/.TeX<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now when I say:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>pdftex test.texi</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I get the following = messages:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>(/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/texinfo/texinfo.tex<BR>(/usr/share/texm= f/pdftex/texinfo/pdftexinfo.tex<BR>Loading=20 texinfo [version=20 1999-03-26.17]:<BR>(/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/plain/misc/pdfcolor.tex) = Basics,=20 fonts,<BR>page headings, tables, conditionals, indexing, sectioning, = toc, PDF=20 outlines,<BR>(test.toc) (test.toc) environments, defuns, macros, cross=20 references, (epsf.tex<BR>) localization, and turning on texinfo input = format.))=20 (test.aux) [1[/var/lib/t<BR>exmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map]] [2] Chapter = 1<BR>!=20 Missing { inserted.<BR><to be read=20 again><BR>          =         =20 n<BR><argument> @pdfimage=20 n<BR>           &n= bsp;         =20 exwave.pdf<BR>@centerline #1->@line {@hss=20 #1<BR>           &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;     =20 @hss }<BR>@imagexxx ... @else @centerline {@pdfimage=20 #1.pdf}<BR>          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;  =20 @fi<BR>@image ...sftrue @fi @else @imagexxx=20 #1,,,@finish<BR>         &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =    =20 @fi<BR>l.36 @image{nexwave,,}</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>?<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(here I hit enter)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Error: pdftex (file nexwave.pdf@hss ): = cannot open=20 image file</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as said, the file nexwave.pdf is both = in the=20 current working directory, the directory of the .texi AND in the = ~/.TeX/  I=20 don't know where else to put it anymore :)</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope anyone you could help me by = telling me what=20 I'm doing wrong...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks a = bunch!<BR><BR>Joost<BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BFF265.4CCEC060-- 20-Jul-2000 14:52:37-GMT,2463;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21613 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:52:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27580 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:19:38 -0400 Received: from kuma.upv.es (kuma.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27577 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:19:36 -0400 Received: from vega.upv.es (vega.cc.upv.es [158.42.4.1]) by kuma.upv.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21562 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:23:42 +0200 Received: from dihma.upv.es (casiopea.dihma.upv.es [158.42.64.29]) by vega.upv.es (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12428 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:23:41 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <39770C82.32D9D9BB@dihma.upv.es> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:28:18 +0200 From: Eduardo Cassiraga <efc@dihma.upv.es> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Pdflatex and miktex 2.0 beta Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all: I have install MikTex 2.0 beta in mi PC and when I compile a presentation (foiltex package) with pdflatex the results is not good. In the .log file (and on screen) the system tell me something as: ... ... ... loading : Context Support Macros / PDF \nofMPsegments=\count102 \nofMParguments=\count103 ) LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for U+msa on input line 53. (C:\texmf\tex\latex\amsfonts\umsa.fd File: umsa.fd 1995/01/05 v2.2e AMS font definitions ) LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for U+msb on input line 53. (C:\texmf\tex\latex\amsfonts\umsb.fd File: umsb.fd 1995/01/05 v2.2e AMS font definitions ) [0 Non-PDF special ignored! Non-PDF special ignored! Non-PDF special ignored! ... ... ... Non-PDF special ignored! Non-PDF special ignored! Non-PDF special ignored! Non-PDF special ignored!] (Maestro.aux) )<cmmi10.pfb><cmsy10.pfb><cmtt10.pfb><c mss10.pfb><cmssbx10.pfb> Output written on Maestro.pdf (9 pages, 46453 bytes). Thanks for any help!! -- Eduardo F. Cassiraga Departamento de Ingeniería Hidráulica y Medio Ambiente Universidad Politécnica de Valencia C/. Camino de Vera, s/n 46071 Valencia - SPAIN tel. +34 96 387 9613 fax +34 96 387 7618 email: efc@dihma.upv.es 20-Jul-2000 17:05:38-GMT,2781;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25297 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27725 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:25:39 -0400 Received: from omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (root@omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.17.35]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27722 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:25:36 -0400 Received: from cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.30.45]) by omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17120 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 18:29:46 +0200 Received: (from breiter@localhost) by cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA26486 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 18:29:46 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 18:29:46 +0200 From: Bernhard Reiter <bernhard@intevation.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Problem including pdf with image Message-ID: <20000720182946.K23085@cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLfjTIIQuAzj8yil" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --SLfjTIIQuAzj8yil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello pdftex developers, please appologise my intrusion into your mailinglist. I have a minor problem with pdflatex and this is the bug report: Problem: If I include a pdf with and included image, the result does not render in acroread (4.0) or xpdf. The files relevant to the problem can be fetched (for the next month) from: http://www.ffii.org/~breiter/probe/pdflatex_problem/ As you can see image.gif was included in zeta.fig using xfig. Exported it as .eps and converted it to .pdf using epstopdf v2.5 under GNU/linux with gs 5.50. It looks fine under the xpdf and acroread, but not gs. ny.tex just includes this zeta.pdf. pdflatex's result is not correct. Thanks and keep up the good work, Bernhard --=20 Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) = =20 The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) --SLfjTIIQuAzj8yil Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjl3KPkACgkQh9ag3dpKERbrfgCg4Bu/HaVhoFwFyEOcTP29mgdF LHMAoNLL/tpnondzByoAEAO5r2X20Wz+ =Rxpe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SLfjTIIQuAzj8yil-- 20-Jul-2000 18:58:11-GMT,1923;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28216 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:58:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27914 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:24:02 -0400 Received: from eiismtp.electricimg.com (electricimg.com [199.35.234.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27911 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:24:00 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (ip81.electricimg.com [199.35.234.81] (may be forged)) by eiismtp.electricimg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05664 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:36:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3977456E.5B120803@csee.usf.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:31:10 -0700 From: Himanshu Gohel <gohel@csee.usf.edu> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Alternative to changebar for pdfTeX? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Recently a question was asked about the changebar package, which doesn't seem to work with pdfTeX. I'm guessing the issue is that there is no pdfTeX driver defined for changebar and that's why it doesn't work? Any idea of what is involved in this project? I have the changebar documentation and am foolish enough to think that I should work on this project. Someone more knowledgeable can perhaps tell me what I'm getting into here...in the meanwhile: Is there any other package, or code chunk which works with pdfTeX that achieves similar results, i.e. to be able to specify which parts of a document to highlighted as changed in this version? Doesn't have to be fancy...just as long as \changed{blah} would mark the line(s) containing blah somehow. Thanks. Himanshu Gohel, gohel@csee.usf.edu 20-Jul-2000 21:46:41-GMT,4537;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02447 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:46:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28406 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:13:15 -0400 Received: from omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (root@omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.17.35]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28403 for <pdfTeX@tug.org>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:13:14 -0400 Received: from cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.30.45]) by omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01319; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:17:25 +0200 Received: (from breiter@localhost) by cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA27640; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:17:25 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:17:25 +0200 From: Bernhard Reiter <bernhard@intevation.de> To: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> Cc: pdfTeX@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem including pdf with image Message-ID: <20000720231725.R23085@cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> References: <20000720182946.K23085@cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> <20000720135900.A21043@redwoodscientific.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9ToWwKEyhugL+MAz" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000720135900.A21043@redwoodscientific.com>; from jlawless@redwoodscientific.com on Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 01:59:00PM -0700 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --9ToWwKEyhugL+MAz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, thanks for your reply. I had a hard time figuring out the version number of pdflatex. Maybe this is an FEQ (frequenty encountered problem). I included a screenshot of my results on the webpage (http://ffii.org/~breiter/probe/pdflatex_problem/) and the ny.log file should reveal the version, which I think is 0.13d. This is the latest I could get from debian (unstable). If it runs fine for you, I will upgrade to pdflatex 0.14f soon and try agai= n. Thanks, Bernhard On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 01:59:00PM -0700, John Lawless wrote: > I looked at your files. I ran pdflatex against ny.tex and the result > looked fine to me under xpdf, gv, and acroread. Which version of pdflatex > are you using? (use pdflatex --version) The current version is 0.14f. >=20 > You said that zeta started out as a gif file. I have good results > converting bitmaps (such as gif) to png and including the png file direct= ly > with pdflatex. This avoids all 'non-conforming' postscript/pdf issues. = The > "convert" utility does a good job: e.g. convert zeta.gif zeta.png >=20 > John >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 06:29:46PM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > Hello pdftex developers, > >=20 > > please appologise my intrusion into your mailinglist. > > I have a minor problem with pdflatex and this is the bug report: > >=20 > > Problem: If I include a pdf with and included image, the result > > does not render in acroread (4.0) or xpdf. > >=20 > > The files relevant to the problem can be fetched (for the next month) f= rom: > > http://www.ffii.org/~breiter/probe/pdflatex_problem/ > >=20 > > As you can see image.gif was included in zeta.fig using xfig. > > Exported it as .eps and converted it to .pdf using epstopdf v2.5 > > under GNU/linux with gs 5.50. It looks fine under the xpdf and > > acroread, but not gs. > >=20 > > ny.tex just includes this zeta.pdf. pdflatex's result is not correct. > >=20 > > Thanks and keep up the good work, > > Bernhard > > --=20 > > Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.ne= t) =20 > > The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) > > Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.or= g) >=20 --=20 Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) = =20 The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) --9ToWwKEyhugL+MAz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjl3bGQACgkQh9ag3dpKERYhaQCfV3+AphEnpevwd3Bgtqn3k5zl DmsAoIDmfpnVFThErwSsSGN0gbGGkOMa =hENj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9ToWwKEyhugL+MAz-- 21-Jul-2000 9:13:50-GMT,2785;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16417 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 03:13:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA29147 for pdftex-list; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 03:39:34 -0400 Received: from gwdu42.gwdg.de (root@gwdu42.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA29144 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 03:39:33 -0400 Received: from gwdu20.gwdg.de ([134.76.98.2] ident=dweiss1) by gwdu42.gwdg.de with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13FYPK-0008Jf-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:43:46 +0200 Received: from localhost by gwdu20.gwdg.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/11Feb98-0154PM) id AA20696; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:43:46 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:43:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Daniel Weiss <Daniel.Weiss@phys.uni-goettingen.de> To: pdfTeX <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Controller bar for qt movies in pdfs Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.10.10007211034330.11879-100000@gwdu20.gwdg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I use the following construct to embed QuickTime movies into pdflatex-generated pdfs (thanks to Himanshu Gohel for pointing out previous posts on this subject): \def\MovieHack name #1 width #2 height #3 {\dimen0=#2% \dimen2=#3% \vbox to \dimen2 {\vfill \hbox to \dimen0 {\pdfannot width \dimen0 height \dimen2 {/Subtype /Movie /Movie << /F (#1) /Aspect [\number\dimen0\space\number\dimen2] /Poster true >>} \hfill}}} My question: can I get acroread to display a "controller bar" (with play button and slider)? At the moment, mouse-clicking starts the movie under acroread 4.05. In HTML, I'd just put: <embed SRC="movie.mov" PLUGINSPAGE="http://quicktime.apple.com" WIDTH=384 HEIGHT=426 CONTROLLER=true LOOP=false AUTOPLAY=false> Is there an equivalent for pdflatex? Thanks, Daniel Daniel Weiss tel: +49 551 399431 Institute for X-Ray Physics (IRP) fax: +49 551 399430 University Georgia Augusta at Goettingen email: Daniel.Weiss@ Geiststrasse 11, 37073 Goettingen, Germany phys.uni-goettingen.de PGP public key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x3D3E57B9&fingerprint=on (fingerprint: F0 4C B3 27 0E 36 08 C0 54 A7 73 DD ED 52 B0 9B) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOXgNQfSzBDo9Ple5AQG22wQAv51JaynumdDmfw0E/hT2xFi+KccFwC32 M+uIpKhOqdOa2v+iPaWEvp5OC+PPqstQdEpgkibG4dAk6jD3olVwzCLBOzkUszl1 kWOKbUIglNq/XL3j06i7eaHoMCn89idx8UuljKVh8rLL7vtNEpfqRN/UL5BfpITE J2nhZxoLR7Q= =WKRM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 21-Jul-2000 12:13:28-GMT,5886;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA19439 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 06:13:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA29305 for pdftex-list; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 06:37:54 -0400 Received: from omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (root@omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.17.35]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29301 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 06:37:49 -0400 Received: from cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE [131.173.30.45]) by omecihuatl.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25174; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:42:03 +0200 Received: (from breiter@localhost) by cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA01561; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:42:03 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:42:03 +0200 From: Bernhard Reiter <bernhard@intevation.de> To: Barnaby Dalton <Barnaby.Dalton@radioscape.com> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem including pdf with image Message-ID: <20000721134203.B1515@cheops.usf.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> References: <3190BC9FA8F6D3119508009027E5B33E0E4CF7@MORSE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <3190BC9FA8F6D3119508009027E5B33E0E4CF7@MORSE>; from Barnaby.Dalton@radioscape.com on Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 09:41:22AM +0100 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barney, thanks for your answer.=20 I will upgrade to a newer pdftex. Thanks all for you help and the work on pdftex. Bernhard On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 09:41:22AM +0100, Barnaby Dalton wrote: > I had similar image problems with the debian 2.2 pdftex version. I upgrad= ed > pdftex -=20 > (replaced the binaries, and .pool files and regenerate the format file), = and > all my problems dissapeared, so I definitely recommend that as a first st= ep. >=20 > If you have any problems upgrading, I have more details on what I did, but > they're at home. >=20 > barney >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdftex@tug.org [mailto:owner-pdftex@tug.org]On Behalf Of > > Bernhard Reiter > > Sent: 20 July 2000 22:17 > > To: John Lawless > > Cc: pdfTeX@tug.org > > Subject: Re: Problem including pdf with image > >=20 > >=20 > > John, > > thanks for your reply. > >=20 > > I had a hard time figuring out the version number of pdflatex. > > Maybe this is an FEQ (frequenty encountered problem). > >=20 > > I included a screenshot of my results on the webpage > > (http://ffii.org/~breiter/probe/pdflatex_problem/) > > and the ny.log file should reveal > > the version, which I think is 0.13d. This is the latest I=20 > > could get from > > debian (unstable). > >=20 > > If it runs fine for you, I will upgrade to pdflatex 0.14f=20 > > soon and try again. > > Thanks, > > Bernhard > >=20 > >=20 > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 01:59:00PM -0700, John Lawless wrote: > > > I looked at your files. I ran pdflatex against ny.tex=20 > > and the result > > > looked fine to me under xpdf, gv, and acroread. Which=20 > > version of pdflatex > > > are you using? (use pdflatex --version) The current=20 > > version is 0.14f. > > >=20 > > > You said that zeta started out as a gif file. I have=20 > > good results > > > converting bitmaps (such as gif) to png and including the=20 > > png file directly > > > with pdflatex. This avoids all 'non-conforming'=20 > > postscript/pdf issues. The > > > "convert" utility does a good job: e.g. convert zeta.gif zeta.png > > >=20 > > > John > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 06:29:46PM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > > > Hello pdftex developers, > > > >=20 > > > > please appologise my intrusion into your mailinglist. > > > > I have a minor problem with pdflatex and this is the bug report: > > > >=20 > > > > Problem: If I include a pdf with and included image, the result > > > > does not render in acroread (4.0) or xpdf. > > > >=20 > > > > The files relevant to the problem can be fetched (for the=20 > > next month) from: > > > > http://www.ffii.org/~breiter/probe/pdflatex_problem/ > > > >=20 > > > > As you can see image.gif was included in zeta.fig using xfig. > > > > Exported it as .eps and converted it to .pdf using epstopdf v2.5 > > > > under GNU/linux with gs 5.50. It looks fine under the xpdf and > > > > acroread, but not gs. > > > >=20 > > > > ny.tex just includes this zeta.pdf. pdflatex's result is=20 > > not correct. > > > >=20 > > > > Thanks and keep up the good work, > > > > Bernhard > > > > --=20 > > > > Professional Service around Free Software =20 > > (intevation.net) =20 > > > > The FreeGIS Project =20 > > (freegis.org) > > > > Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure =20 > > (ffii.org) > > >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > Professional Service around Free Software =20 > > (intevation.net) =20 > > The FreeGIS Project =20 > > (freegis.org) > > Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure =20 > > (ffii.org) > >=20 --=20 Professional Service around Free Software (intevation.net) = =20 The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) Association for a Free Informational Infrastructure (ffii.org) --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjl4NwoACgkQh9ag3dpKERZJ/QCg3nQf/gLSMFRqvUgIpBD/lmqZ rawAnjM9XMiAIR9d/s7REwb7Q/xkFiw1 =uM/3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s-- 23-Jul-2000 10:58:50-GMT,1687;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14271 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:58:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA32295 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:22:30 -0400 Received: from tamaris.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-12.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA32292 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:22:29 -0400 Received: from villosa.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.122) by tamaris.wanadoo.fr; 23 Jul 2000 12:26:53 +0200 Received: from wanadoo (193.250.83.53) by villosa.wanadoo.fr; 23 Jul 2000 12:26:37 +0200 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> X-Sender: fabien.Campi@pop.wanadoo.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:27:11 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Fabien Campi <fcampi@mail.com> Subject: First question of a pdfTeX newbie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all ! I would like to use pdfTeX in order to make great slideshows with acrobat reader. I am using currently plain format (I do not like LaTeX) and I am quite happy with the quality of the document I can generate with pdfTeX. In fact, it is perfect. *But*, I would like to have great background images in my documents. How can I perform this ? Perhaps by inserting raw pdf code in my document ? (but which ?). It is the only trouble that I have. If someone can help me... Best regards to all from the (currently sunny) french riviera, Fabien Campi 23-Jul-2000 11:42:09-GMT,1655;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14994 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:42:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA32341 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 06:08:12 -0400 Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA32338 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 06:08:10 -0400 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19935; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:12:33 +0100 (BST) Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id MAA08618; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:12:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:12:29 +0100 From: Marc van Dongen <dongen@cs.ucc.ie> To: Fabien Campi <fcampi@mail.com> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: First question of a pdfTeX newbie Message-ID: <20000723121229.B8402@cs.ucc.ie> References: <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr>; from fcampi@mail.com on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 12:27:11PM +0200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Fabien Campi (fcampi@mail.com) wrote: [ How to get background in pdf. ] What you are looking for is the eso-pic package. Regards, Marc van Dongen -- Marc van Dongen, CS Dept | phone: +353 21 4903578 University College Cork, NUIC | Fax: +353 21 4903113 College Road, Cork, Ireland | Email: dongen@cs.ucc.ie 23-Jul-2000 11:45:26-GMT,1814;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA15068 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:45:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA32350 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 06:11:33 -0400 Received: from wolverine.emji.net (wolverine.emji.net [207.22.135.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA32347 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 06:11:32 -0400 Received: from ieee.org (yates-dsl2.emji.net [207.87.184.179]) by wolverine.emji.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12154 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 07:14:53 -0400 Message-ID: <397AD3FB.944D8863@ieee.org> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 07:16:11 -0400 From: Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Problems with pdfTeX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting an "Undefined control sequence" error for the macro "\pdfannotlink." I also cannot pdfTeX the example.tex file provided in the distribution, receiving the same error for the \pdfthreadhoffset macro. Any ideas? This is pdfTeX 14d under Windows 2000 using MiKTeX 1.20e. I've tried regenerating the filename database and regenerating the .fmt file using initexmf --dump=pdftex, both to no avail. -- Randy Yates % "She's sweet on Wagner-I think she'd die for Beethoven- DIGITAL SOUND LABS % She love the way Puccini lays down a tune, and Digital Audio Sig. Proc. % Verdi's always creepin' from her room." <yates@ieee.org> % "Rockaria", *A New World Record*, ELO http://207.87.184.178/index.htm 23-Jul-2000 13:04:02-GMT,1555;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16330 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 07:04:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA32399 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 07:28:41 -0400 Received: from alisier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA32396 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 07:28:40 -0400 Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by alisier.wanadoo.fr; 23 Jul 2000 14:33:03 +0200 Received: from wanadoo (193.250.223.9) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 23 Jul 2000 14:32:52 +0200 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr> X-Sender: fabien.Campi@pop.wanadoo.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:33:24 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Fabien Campi <fcampi@mail.com> Subject: Re: First question of a pdfTeX newbie In-Reply-To: <20000723121229.B8402@cs.ucc.ie> References: <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:12 23/07/00 +0100, you wrote: >Fabien Campi (fcampi@mail.com) wrote: > >[ How to get background in pdf. ] > >What you are looking for is the eso-pic package. Hum... It is a LaTeX package, I am using only plain (or eplain) :-( Any other solution ?? Fabien C. 23-Jul-2000 14:37:50-GMT,1897;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17918 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 08:37:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA32442 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 08:47:19 -0400 Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA32439 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 08:47:17 -0400 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23560; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:51:41 +0100 (BST) Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id OAA08735; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:51:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:51:36 +0100 From: Marc van Dongen <dongen@cs.ucc.ie> To: Fabien Campi <fcampi@mail.com> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: First question of a pdfTeX newbie Message-ID: <20000723145136.C8402@cs.ucc.ie> References: <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <20000723121229.B8402@cs.ucc.ie> <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr>; from fcampi@mail.com on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 02:33:24PM +0200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Fabien Campi (fcampi@mail.com) wrote: : >[ How to get background in pdf. ] : > : >What you are looking for is the eso-pic package. : : Hum... It is a LaTeX package, I am using only plain (or eplain) :-( : : Any other solution ?? I don't understand what the problem is. Perhaps this is because I don't know what (e)plain is. Can't you run eso-pic whith pdf(le)tex? I do it myself and it works great. Regards, Marc van Dongen 23-Jul-2000 16:16:34-GMT,2875;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19531 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:16:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32528 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:27:34 -0400 Received: from caroubier.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-6.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.160]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA32525 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:27:31 -0400 Received: from andira.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.152) by caroubier.wanadoo.fr; 23 Jul 2000 17:31:55 +0200 Received: from wanadoo (193.250.218.12) by andira.wanadoo.fr; 23 Jul 2000 17:31:36 +0200 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000723171616.009b0de0@pop.wanadoo.fr> X-Sender: fabien.Campi@pop.wanadoo.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:32:09 +0200 To: Marc van Dongen <dongen@cs.ucc.ie> From: Fabien Campi <fcampi@mail.com> Subject: Re: First question of a pdfTeX newbie Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20000723145136.C8402@cs.ucc.ie> References: <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr> <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <20000723121229.B8402@cs.ucc.ie> <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, >I don't understand what the problem is. Perhaps this is >because I don't know what (e)plain is. Can't you run >eso-pic whith pdf(le)tex? I do it myself and it works >great. plain is the original format created by D.Knuth. It is know as "TeX". pdfTeX is the version of TeX that provides .pdf output. LaTeX is an extension to plain, from L.Lamport. pdfLaTeX is the pdf-output version of LaTeX. eso-pic works only with LaTeX. Personnaly, I do not like LaTeX, I found it too standardized, and finally, most of things that are done in LaTeX can be done in TeX. That's the reason why I am using only TeX. In concurence to to LaTeX in order to make plain format evoluate, eplain had been written. It exists also conTeX in the same idea. For every task I had to do, TeX had been entirelly sufficent and until now, I had not the need of using LaTeX (even for my thesis redaction). The great advantage of LaTeX is the very important quantity of packages, there is not a such choice with TeX :-( If I really cannot find a package to have a background image, I will use LaTeX anyway :-( But, perhaps, I could write the (I hope) small piece of pdf code that is needed. So, another question, where can I find a summary of all the pdf commands (with some explanation and examples) ? Is there a book for pdf that is free like the excellent "thinking in postscript" from G.C.Reid for ps format ? Fabien C. 23-Jul-2000 17:17:53-GMT,2866;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20547 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:17:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA32567 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:28:16 -0400 Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA32564 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:28:14 -0400 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22807; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:32:38 +0100 (BST) Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id RAA10713; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:32:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:32:34 +0100 From: Marc van Dongen <dongen@cs.ucc.ie> To: Fabien Campi <fcampi@mail.com> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: First question of a pdfTeX newbie Message-ID: <20000723173234.D8402@cs.ucc.ie> References: <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr> <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <20000723121229.B8402@cs.ucc.ie> <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr> <20000723145136.C8402@cs.ucc.ie> <4.2.0.58.20000723171616.009b0de0@pop.wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000723171616.009b0de0@pop.wanadoo.fr>; from fcampi@mail.com on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 05:32:09PM +0200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Fabien Campi (fcampi@mail.com) wrote: : plain is the original format created by D.Knuth. It is know as : "TeX". pdfTeX is the version of TeX that provides .pdf output. : LaTeX is an extension to plain, from L.Lamport. pdfLaTeX is the : pdf-output version of LaTeX. eso-pic works only with LaTeX. That is not true. It does work with pdflatex. : Personnaly, I do not like LaTeX, I found it too standardized, and : finally, most of things that are done in LaTeX can be done in TeX. : That's the reason why I am using only TeX. In concurence to : to LaTeX in order to make plain format evoluate, eplain had been : written. It exists also conTeX in the same idea. If you use ConText you should be able to define a background. Don't know how to do this anymore. Read some ConTeXt FAQ. It's definitely written down somewhere. : So, another question, where can I find a summary of all the pdf commands : (with some explanation and examples) ? Is there a book for pdf that is : free like the excellent "thinking in postscript" from G.C.Reid for ps format ? Dunno. Regards, Marc van Dongen -- Marc van Dongen, CS Dept | phone: +353 21 4903578 University College Cork, NUIC | Fax: +353 21 4903113 College Road, Cork, Ireland | Email: dongen@cs.ucc.ie 23-Jul-2000 21:10:20-GMT,1913;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24644 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:10:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32718 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:20:40 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA32715 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:20:38 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13GSJ2-0000AY-00; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:25:00 +0100 Received: from max22.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.22] helo=spqr ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13GSJ2-0007oN-00; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:25:00 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14715.19963.519880.802351@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:56:43 +0100 (BST) To: jfaassen@suntech.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Images in pdf. In-Reply-To: <003201bff254$89678220$49749ac3@suntech.fr> References: <003201bff254$89678220$49749ac3@suntech.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Joost Faassen writes: > I've got normal working .texi file, when I add > @image {imagename,,} ... > ! Missing { inserted. > <to be read again> > n > <argument> @pdfimage n > exwave.pdf This is a mismatch between the pdftex changes to the texinfo macros, and your version of pdftex. The syntax of \pdfimage changed. Sorry I cannot help further; someone needs to overhaul those texinfo macros. Sebastian 24-Jul-2000 1:01:51-GMT,3044;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28700 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:01:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00410 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:14:06 -0400 Received: from wolverine.emji.net (wolverine.emji.net [207.22.135.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00407 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:14:05 -0400 Received: from ieee.org (yates-dsl2.emji.net [207.87.184.179]) by wolverine.emji.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17704 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:17:37 -0400 Message-ID: <397B8B70.CB352576@ieee.org> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:18:56 -0400 From: Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX Fundamentals References: <003201bff254$89678220$49749ac3@suntech.fr> <14715.19963.519880.802351@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I wrote this morning regarding some problems I'm having with pdfTeX (e.g., \pdfannotlink is undefined). Since no one responded, I'm assuming that no one has a clue about this problem. So I'm trying to understand more about pdfTeX so I can troubleshoot it and/or rebuild it more completely. Which brings me to the subject of my current message. 1. Normally a macro package, like LaTeX, comes as a TeX source file (latex.tex) that is "compiled" into a format (latex.fmt) file, and that file is then preloaded by TeX to become the new high level TeX language (LaTeX). With pdfTeX that doesn't seem to be the case. Rather it appears that the TeX program (tex.exe) is not used at all but rather a new program pdftex.exe is used. Further, it appears that this new program has built-in new primitives, e.g., \pdfannotlink, that won't be found in any TeX source file. It also appears that initex'ing pdfTeX simply causes it to read plain.tex and create a plain.fmt file. Is this correct? If so, which plain.tex file does it use when initex'ing under the MiKTeX distribution? 2. What is the pdftex.pool file and how does it get generated? 3. How do I recompile pdftex under Windows 2000? At least you should see where my head is at and where I'm going if these questions are a little off-base. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Having a functional pdfTeX on my new (800 MHz Athlon la-de-da!) Windows 2000 machine is extremely important to me. -- Randy Yates % "She's sweet on Wagner-I think she'd die for Beethoven- DIGITAL SOUND LABS % She love the way Puccini lays down a tune, and Digital Audio Sig. Proc. % Verdi's always creepin' from her room." <yates@ieee.org> % "Rockaria", *A New World Record*, ELO http://207.87.184.178/index.htm 24-Jul-2000 12:48:57-GMT,2895;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11352 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:48:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA01307 for pdftex-list; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:07:38 -0400 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01304 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:07:36 -0400 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25222; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:10:16 +0100 Message-ID: <397C3228.150B4123@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:10:16 +0100 From: Frank Boehme <f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX Fundamentals References: <003201bff254$89678220$49749ac3@suntech.fr> <14715.19963.519880.802351@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <397B8B70.CB352576@ieee.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Randy Yates wrote: > > 1. Normally a macro package, like LaTeX, comes as a TeX source > file (latex.tex) that is "compiled" into a format (latex.fmt) > file, and that file is then preloaded by TeX to become the > new high level TeX language (LaTeX). With pdfTeX that doesn't > seem to be the case. Nowadays, a TeX system encompasses several 'typesetting engines', such as TeX, eTeX, pdfTeX etc. pdfTeX does more or less the same as TeX, but it writes to pdf rather then to dvi. Macro packages need to be precompiled with that 'engine' (-ini) which will later on preload them to do typesetting work. That's why there is a pdfTeX as well as a pdfLaTeX. > Rather it appears that the TeX program > (tex.exe) is not used at all but rather a new program pdftex.exe > is used. Ah, you are a windoze user... > Further, it appears that this new program has built-in > new primitives, e.g., \pdfannotlink, that won't be found in any > TeX source file. Yes. These are new primitives built in pdfTeX (not pdfLaTeX). > 2. What is the pdftex.pool file and how does it get generated? It assigns textual messages, warnings and errors to numbers which are used internally by pdfTeX. Whenever you rebuild your format, this file gets recreated. > 3. How do I recompile pdftex under Windows 2000? I guess this depends on the TeX package. Usually, the docs are sufficient. Sorry, I am not a windows user.... Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 24-Jul-2000 13:20:04-GMT,1456;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11943 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:20:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA01389 for pdftex-list; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:40:09 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01386 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:40:06 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13Ghay-00050r-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:44:32 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13Ghaz-0000rS-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:44:33 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14716.14913.648893.175476@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:44:49 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: list testing X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Things have been odd recently with this list. This is a test message to allow me to do some tracing Sebastian Rahtz, list owner 24-Jul-2000 13:43:58-GMT,3467;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12396 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:43:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01425 for pdftex-list; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:09:47 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01422 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:09:45 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09661; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:14:11 -0400 (EDT) To: Marc van Dongen <dongen@cs.ucc.ie> Cc: Fabien Campi <fcampi@mail.com>, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: First question of a pdfTeX newbie References: <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr> <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <20000723121229.B8402@cs.ucc.ie> <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr> <20000723145136.C8402@cs.ucc.ie> <4.2.0.58.20000723171616.009b0de0@pop.wanadoo.fr> <20000723173234.D8402@cs.ucc.ie> From: Ed L Cashin <ecashin@coe.uga.edu> Date: 24 Jul 2000 09:14:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: Marc van Dongen's message of "Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:32:34 +0100" Message-ID: <m3r98jpt5p.fsf@coe.uga.edu> Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Marc van Dongen <dongen@cs.ucc.ie> writes: > Fabien Campi (fcampi@mail.com) wrote: > > : plain is the original format created by D.Knuth. It is know as > : "TeX". pdfTeX is the version of TeX that provides .pdf output. > : LaTeX is an extension to plain, from L.Lamport. pdfLaTeX is the > : pdf-output version of LaTeX. eso-pic works only with LaTeX. > > That is not true. It does work with pdflatex. Yes, but he doesn't use latex at all. pdflatex is the pdftex version of latex. He uses the plain macropackage, not the latex macropackage. If eso-pic depends on latex (I don't know) and he doesn't use latex (pdflatex or not), eso-pic is not an option for him. > : Personnaly, I do not like LaTeX, I found it too standardized, and > : finally, most of things that are done in LaTeX can be done in TeX. > : That's the reason why I am using only TeX. In concurence to > : to LaTeX in order to make plain format evoluate, eplain had been > : written. It exists also conTeX in the same idea. > > If you use ConText you should be able to define a background. > Don't know how to do this anymore. Read some ConTeXt FAQ. It's > definitely written down somewhere. Yes, context is more plain-flavored, but it is quite a full-featured package. There's a new web site: http://www.pragma-ade.com/ > : So, another question, where can I find a summary of all the pdf commands > : (with some explanation and examples) ? Is there a book for pdf that is > : free like the excellent "thinking in postscript" from G.C.Reid for ps format ? There is a list of primitives in the user manual, and there's a file in the pdftex distribution called "example.tex" (with accompanying image file, "image.png".) user manual: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex-s.pdf -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 24-Jul-2000 19:40:23-GMT,2171;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19555 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:40:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02776 for pdftex-list; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:04:41 -0400 Received: from tamaris.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-12.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02773 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:04:35 -0400 Received: from amyris.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.150) by tamaris.wanadoo.fr; 24 Jul 2000 21:08:59 +0200 Received: from wanadoo (193.250.223.39) by amyris.wanadoo.fr; 24 Jul 2000 21:08:36 +0200 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000724210637.00a0dd80@pop.wanadoo.fr> X-Sender: fabien.Campi@pop.wanadoo.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:09:09 +0200 To: Ed L Cashin <ecashin@coe.uga.edu> From: Fabien Campi <fcampi@mail.com> Subject: Re: First question of a pdfTeX newbie Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <m3r98jpt5p.fsf@coe.uga.edu> References: <Marc van Dongen's message of "Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:32:34 +0100"> <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr> <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <4.2.0.58.20000723122207.009b5320@pop.wanadoo.fr> <20000723121229.B8402@cs.ucc.ie> <4.2.0.58.20000723142457.009a9ee0@pop.wanadoo.fr> <20000723145136.C8402@cs.ucc.ie> <4.2.0.58.20000723171616.009b0de0@pop.wanadoo.fr> <20000723173234.D8402@cs.ucc.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, thank you to Ed.L.Cashin for the links, you said better than me what I wanted to say (english is a difficult language). Anyway, the solution had been given to me in comp.text.tex here it is : \newtoks\bgcolour \newtoks\fgcolour \bgcolour{1 1 1 } \fgcolour{0 0 0 } \headline={\pdfliteral {\the\bgcolour rg -36 -720 612 792 re f \the\fgcolour rg \the\fgcolour RG}\bg} \pdfximage{mybg.pdf} \newcount\bgimage \bgimage\pdflastximage \def\bg{\pdfrefximage\bgimage} Regards to all, Fabien C. 25-Jul-2000 16:01:20-GMT,1598;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13960 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:01:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05825 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:21:11 -0400 Received: from tmpil001.tmp.allied.com (tmpil001.tmp.allied.com [198.80.19.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA05822 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:21:08 -0400 Received: from tmpnt701.allied.com (alliedsignal.com) by tmpil001.tmp.allied.com with SMTP id IAA18242 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for <pdftex@tug.org>); Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:25:33 -0700 Received: from 165.195.14.21 by tmpnt701.allied.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:21:14 -0700 Received: by sophb201.europe.allied.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <PK8JVDVC>; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:25:25 +0200 Message-Id: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F838F@GNNEX221> From: "Tourte, Gregory" <Gregory.TOURTE@honeywell.com> To: "'pdftex mailing list'" <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: PDF and bars Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:25:23 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello all! Is it normal that bars, underscores, fraction bars or table frames appear strangely in acrobat? Where does it come from? pdftex? or acrobat? I am using pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2c 7.3.1), an this happens viewingon linux or windoze with a file created on linux or windoze! Cheers for your help Greg Tourte 26-Jul-2000 6:22:44-GMT,4509;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA04346 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:22:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07612 for pdftex-list; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:49:02 -0400 Received: from wolverine.emji.net (wolverine.emji.net [207.22.135.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07609 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:49:00 -0400 Received: from ieee.org (yates-dsl2.emji.net [207.87.184.179]) by wolverine.emji.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA27516 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:52:39 -0400 Message-ID: <397E7CFB.5CB630A4@ieee.org> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:54:03 -0400 From: Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX Fundamentals References: <003201bff254$89678220$49749ac3@suntech.fr> <14715.19963.519880.802351@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <397B8B70.CB352576@ieee.org> <397C3228.150B4123@cs.ucc.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thank you all for your responses regarding this topic. I have now resolved the issue with your help. The problem is that some of the built-in primitives have changed between prior versions of pdfTeX and version 14d. For example, \pdfannotlink no longer exists - you must instead use \pdfstartlink. Also, something that confused me profoundly was that the example.tex file included in the 14d distribution that the documentation states is supposed to be a test for pdfTeX has the old primitives in it, thus it would not compile. THIS IS EXTREMELY CONFUSING AND EITHER THE DOCUMENTATION OR THE EXAMPLE.TEX FILE SHOULD BE UPDATED ASAP!!! Beyond that, I also had some warnings about invalid SlantFont values: Warning: pdftex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlsrt8rn': too big value of SlantFont (850) Here is an representative example of the corresponding line from the pdftex.map file: Hlsrt8rn Lucidasans-Typewriter "850 Extendfont Texbase1encoding Reencodefont" <8r.Enc <Lstr.Pfb I modified the "850" to ".850" - I have no idea if that is the correct fix, but it stopped the warning messages. --Randy Frank Boehme wrote: > > Randy Yates wrote: > > > > > 1. Normally a macro package, like LaTeX, comes as a TeX source > > file (latex.tex) that is "compiled" into a format (latex.fmt) > > file, and that file is then preloaded by TeX to become the > > new high level TeX language (LaTeX). With pdfTeX that doesn't > > seem to be the case. > > Nowadays, a TeX system encompasses several 'typesetting engines', such > as TeX, eTeX, pdfTeX etc. pdfTeX does more or less the same as TeX, but > it writes to pdf rather then to dvi. Macro packages need to be > precompiled with that 'engine' (-ini) which will later on preload them > to do typesetting work. That's why there is a pdfTeX as well as a > pdfLaTeX. > > > Rather it appears that the TeX program > > (tex.exe) is not used at all but rather a new program pdftex.exe > > is used. > > Ah, you are a windoze user... > > > Further, it appears that this new program has built-in > > new primitives, e.g., \pdfannotlink, that won't be found in any > > TeX source file. > > Yes. These are new primitives built in pdfTeX (not pdfLaTeX). > > > 2. What is the pdftex.pool file and how does it get generated? > > It assigns textual messages, warnings and errors to numbers which are > used internally by pdfTeX. Whenever you rebuild your format, this file > gets recreated. > > > 3. How do I recompile pdftex under Windows 2000? > > I guess this depends on the TeX package. Usually, the docs are > sufficient. Sorry, I am not a windows user.... > > Frank > > -- > Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie > National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 > Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 > Cork, Ireland | -- Randy Yates % "She's sweet on Wagner-I think she'd die for Beethoven- DIGITAL SOUND LABS % She love the way Puccini lays down a tune, and Digital Audio Sig. Proc. % Verdi's always creepin' from her room." <yates@ieee.org> % "Rockaria", *A New World Record*, ELO http://207.87.184.178/index.htm 26-Jul-2000 11:06:19-GMT,1409;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09269 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:06:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA07903 for pdftex-list; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:27:37 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07900 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:27:35 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13HOTw-00030a-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:32:08 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13HOTx-0004gT-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:32:09 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14718.48697.974577.69927@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:32:25 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: test message X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The pdftex has been having problems. Hopefull this will now work Sebastian Rahtz 26-Jul-2000 20:42:51-GMT,1954;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23671 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:42:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08886 for pdftex-list; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:00:10 -0400 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08883 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:00:08 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1a-46-110.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.15.110] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13HXQH-00009u-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:04:58 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13HXVL-00024O-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:10:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:10:11 -0700 From: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> To: Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX Fundamentals Message-ID: <20000726131011.D7260@redwoodscientific.com> References: <003201bff254$89678220$49749ac3@suntech.fr> <14715.19963.519880.802351@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <397B8B70.CB352576@ieee.org> <397C3228.150B4123@cs.ucc.ie> <397E7CFB.5CB630A4@ieee.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <397E7CFB.5CB630A4@ieee.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 01:54:03AM -0400, Randy Yates wrote: > Hlsrt8rn Lucidasans-Typewriter "850 Extendfont Texbase1encoding Reencodefont" <8r.Enc <Lstr.Pfb > > I modified the "850" to ".850" - I have no idea if that is the correct fix, > but it stopped the warning messages. Randy, I noticed the same thing and found the 850->0.850 solution mentioned on Usenet along with the claim that this was a known typo. (I don't know why someone decided that the Lucida fonts needed to be extended (compressed) by this amount.) John 26-Jul-2000 21:29:00-GMT,2724;000000000001 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25012 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:28:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA09074 for pdftex-list; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:49:21 -0400 Received: from london.tamu.edu (london.tamu.edu [165.91.241.64]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09071 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:49:20 -0400 Received: (from mbakich@localhost) by london.tamu.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA17606 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:53:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:53:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Peter Bakich <mbakich@ee.tamu.edu> Message-Id: <200007262053.PAA17606@london.tamu.edu> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: compatability with Adobe X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am using Red Hat Linux 6.1. I have just created a Latex document with encapsulated postscript files. I can create the ps document and from that, use ps2pdf and create the pdf document. I would use pdflatex but I can't get it to incorporate the encapsulated post script images I am using in my paper--would using pdflatex help? Otherwise, I can view each step along the way with ghost view. I can print from ghost view. On my Linux machine at home everything is perfect, each step of the process--no complaints there. But when (even on unix machines) an attempt is made to use Adobe distiller to create the pdf, the result is lousy. We checked the ps file and the result with Adobe is lousy. The 3. versions of Adobe are unusable. The 4.0 version of Adobe is not good but is readable. It prints better than it looks from 4.0. On 4.0 the printing has small white dropouts at the bottems of the letters (like the letter c, etc.). The overall effect is not good but legible. The e! ! ncapsulated post script files print ok. Just to note, Kinkos printed the ps document just fine--but they could not create the pdf from that. I think it got hung on a comment with the .eps files. I don't that their pdf would have been any better than the others. They were using Adobe distiller (4.0) but on a Mac. The reason I am so concerned about the compatability issue is that the paper will be issued on a cd--in pdf format. People with 3.whatever wont be able to view it at all and 4.0 doesn't look so good on screen either (the screen output looks much worse than the printer output. Apologies for this coming out of the blue (and for possibly not being relevant to what you are doing) but I am clueless and am broadcasting this for some kind of answer from somewhere. Mike Bakich 27-Jul-2000 0:08:53-GMT,2028;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29235 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:08:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09249 for pdftex-list; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:34:00 -0400 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09246 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:33:58 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1a-46-110.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.15.110] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13HalJ-0006SF-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:38:53 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13HaqN-0002CX-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:44:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:44:07 -0700 From: John Lawless <jlawless@redwoodscientific.com> To: Michael Peter Bakich <mbakich@ee.tamu.edu> Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: compatability with Adobe Message-ID: <20000726164407.B8415@redwoodscientific.com> References: <200007262053.PAA17606@london.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <200007262053.PAA17606@london.tamu.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Mike, The latex->dvips->ps2pdf approach can result in bad-looking (bitmap) fonts. This can be fixed. There are instructions at: http://www.fastlane.nsf.gov/a1/pdfcreat.htm pdflatex uses Type1 fonts which avoids these problems. Unlike latex, pdflatex accepts pdf, jpg, and png graphics. You can convert your bitmaps to jpg or png using the "convert" utility. For EPS files, convert them to pdf using "epstopdf". (Other tools exist but set the bounding box and page size wrong in the pdf file.) If you want to include a bitmap graphic in a pdf graphic file, you need a recent version of pdftex, like 0.14f. (The versions included in standard latex distributions, as in RH6.1, are old, like 0.13.) John 27-Jul-2000 3:14:00-GMT,1774;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03008 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:13:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09450 for pdftex-list; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:39:46 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09447 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:39:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e6R2hYZ04922; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:43:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu: cottrell owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:43:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu> X-Sender: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu To: Michael Peter Bakich <mbakich@ee.tamu.edu> cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: compatability with Adobe In-Reply-To: <200007262053.PAA17606@london.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007262240430.4893-100000@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Michael Peter Bakich wrote: > I am using Red Hat Linux 6.1. I have just created a Latex > document with encapsulated postscript files. I can create > the ps document and from that, use ps2pdf and create the pdf > document. I would use pdflatex but I can't get it to > incorporate the encapsulated post script images I am using > in my paper--would using pdflatex help? No, it would not help. You can't include eps graphics in any sort of pdftex. (This is a FAQ.) You need to convert the graphics using epstopdf first. Allin Cottrell. 28-Jul-2000 11:27:48-GMT,2114;000000000000 Return-Path: <owner-pdftex@tug.org> Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA15250 for <beebe@math.utah.edu>; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:27:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA12025 for pdftex-list; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:35:06 -0400 Received: from mail.engr.ucsb.edu (mail.engr.ucsb.edu [128.111.27.5]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12022 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:35:04 -0400 Received: from sword.chemengr.ucsb.edu ([128.111.82.53] ident=root) by mail.engr.ucsb.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #2) id 13I7VM-0005QU-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:36:36 -0700 Received: from saato049 (saato049.hut.fi [130.233.148.49]) by sword.chemengr.ucsb.edu (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id DAA03458 for <pdftex@tug.org>; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005301bff880$49e7e5e0$3194e982@hut.fi> From: "Ashish Singhal" <ashishs@engineering.ucsb.edu> To: <pdftex@tug.org> Subject: Error printing graphics with EPSTOPDF Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:40:44 +0300 Organization: UCSB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a problem while printing graphics that were converted from eps to pdf using the epstopdf perl script. 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(PS -> PNG) with GS : what are typical parameters?

In order to include some PostScript files in a pdftex file,
I will convert the PS files into PNG. I plan to use ghostscript.
However, I would like to know what are the most suitable parameters?
As soon as I get pdftex working, I will try

  gs -sDEVICE=pnggray -r72 -q -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=fic.png -- fic.ps
                 ^^^^   ^^
                  a     b

Questions:

  - is a) ok for black and white drawing?
  - for b), does a larger value add something?

Thanks,

Denis Roegel
--------------78E7681A59EDDC4A061E4961-- 30-Jul-2000 12:17:57-GMT,2830;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11591 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 06:17:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA15720 for pdftex-list; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 06:40:32 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA15717 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 06:40:30 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26723 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:45:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15955 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:45:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200007301145.NAA15955@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: marginal kerning To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:45:18 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM964957518-15847-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --ELM964957518-15847-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, having done some experiments on marginal kerning and got some pratical results, I would recommend pdftex users to use marginal kerning. It's really easy, just put the following two lines into the beginning of your tex file: \input protcode \pdfprotrudechars=2 A recent version of pdftex is recommended. In case you want to keep paragraph breaking to be the same as in case without marginal kerning, set \pdfprotrudechars to 1. 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I know it message it a bit off topic but where can I find the latest version of pdflatex compiled for windoze? I have looked on CTAN but had only pdftex not pdflatex. I am not a windoze user usually but for now I am stick with it and have only a old version of it comming from TeXlive 4 CD. I would be more looking at a web download than a cd version but... Thanks for your help! Greg Tourte 31-Jul-2000 12:01:07-GMT,2563;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06416 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA17105 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:22:54 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17102 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:22:51 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id NAA13903 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:27:34 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200007311127.NAA12319@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id NAA12319; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:27:34 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:27:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Suppressing \pdfdest in \leaders To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: xAYll+Jy7bv54O99j8HcTw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm wondering whether \pdfdest should be suppressed in a box subject to \leaders, like non-immediate file access commands are. In TeXPower, page contents are duplicated including whatsits, which can lead to unwanted duplications of toc and bookmark entries, anchors etc. Unwanted toc and bookmark entryes are suppressed by saying \global\setbox\@cclv=\hbox{\leaders\copy\@cclv\hskip\wd\@cclv}% before \shipout on duplicate pages, which suppresses file access whatsits. But it seems that \pdfdest also generates a whatsit (I dunno for sure, didn't RTFM) which is _not_ suppressed this way, because I keep getting warnings like ! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{section.4}) has been already used, duplicate ignored Now my questions: a) Is it true that \pdfdest generates a whatsit which is _not_ suppressed by \leaders? b) Is this intentional? c) Is there any other way I can `turn off' \pdfdest whatsits before \shipout? regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 31-Jul-2000 17:50:41-GMT,1451;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15307 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:50:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17613 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:06:45 -0400 Received: from eiismtp.electricimg.com (electricimg.com [199.35.234.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17610 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:06:44 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (ip81.electricimg.com [199.35.234.81] (may be forged)) by eiismtp.electricimg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29459; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:20:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3985B41C.92049121@csee.usf.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:15:08 -0700 From: Himanshu Gohel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Tourte, Gregory" CC: "'pdftex mailing list'" Subject: Re: windoze compile pdflatex References: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83AB@GNNEX221> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "Tourte, Gregory" wrote: > [...] where can I find the latest version > of pdflatex compiled for windoze? I have looked on CTAN but had only Try this site: http://www.pragma-ade.nl/pdftex.htm Himanshu Gohel, gohel@csee.usf.edu 31-Jul-2000 18:56:50-GMT,2665;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17429 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:56:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17700 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:18:57 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17697 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:18:56 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27285; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:23:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA07444; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:23:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200007311823.UAA07444@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Suppressing \pdfdest in \leaders In-Reply-To: <200007311127.NAA12319@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> from Stephan Lehmke at "Jul 31, 0 01:27:34 pm" To: lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:23:47 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I'm wondering whether \pdfdest should be suppressed > in a box subject to \leaders, like non-immediate > file access commands are. > > In TeXPower, page contents are duplicated including > whatsits, which can lead to unwanted duplications of > toc and bookmark entries, anchors etc. > > Unwanted toc and bookmark entryes are suppressed > by saying > \global\setbox\@cclv=\hbox{\leaders\copy\@cclv\hskip\wd\@cclv}% > before \shipout on duplicate pages, which suppresses > file access whatsits. > > But it seems that \pdfdest also generates a whatsit > (I dunno for sure, didn't RTFM) which is _not_ suppressed > this way, because I keep getting warnings like > ! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{section.4}) > has been already used, duplicate ignored > > Now my questions: > > a) Is it true that \pdfdest generates a whatsit > which is _not_ suppressed by \leaders? > > b) Is this intentional? > > c) Is there any other way I can `turn off' \pdfdest > whatsits before \shipout? I didn't take this issue into account while adding \pdf* primitives. Probably \pdfdest (and some more, like \pdfthread, \pdfobj, etc.) should be suppressed by \leaders. If it's not urgent, I will fix it in next release (hopefully in the end of September). Regards, Thanh 31-Jul-2000 19:25:04-GMT,1878;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18376 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:25:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17725 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:36:23 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17722 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:36:21 -0400 Received: from pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de (pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.59]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id UAA23216; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:41:15 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200007311841.UAA06078@pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from pluto (pluto [129.217.56.59]) by pluto.cs.uni-dortmund.de id UAA06078; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:41:15 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:41:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: Suppressing \pdfdest in \leaders To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: y4Jfk0pxwRzCp0zdn1jYrw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh wrote on Mon, 31 Jul 2000 20:23:47 +0200 (MET DST): > Probably \pdfdest (and some more, like \pdfthread, \pdfobj, etc.) should be > suppressed by \leaders. > > If it's not urgent, I will fix it in next release (hopefully in > the end of September). This would be most appreciated. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 1-Aug-2000 1:02:13-GMT,2200;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27121 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:02:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA18089 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:24:00 -0400 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18086 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:23:58 -0400 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23403 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 01:27:13 +0100 Message-ID: <39861961.275A881C@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 01:27:13 +0100 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Some findings on Belleek + pftex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have just played around a bit with the free Belleek fonts (which are much frowned upon by some experts). I can't comment on how Belleek compares to Mathtime since I don't have the latter but I am quite happy with the results. It appears to me that these fonts are a good choice for slides (or pdfscreen files) which contain maths. If I am not wrong, typesetting gurus advocat fonts with small serifes (sp?) for presentations. I am using tetex and followed the straightforward installation instructions posted by Thomas Esser (can be found at deja.com). To generate the proper entries in pdftex.map, one has also to change the corresponding entries in updmap or (probably easier) to modify pdftex.map directly. As for dvi => ps, I confirm that things only work with font subsetting turned off (-j0) which is an already reported fact causing the generated ps files being huge. But pdfLaTeX workes without a hitch. BTW, if, for whatever reason, one has to generate ps with Belleek fonts, there is a way to avoid fully embedded fonts: just use pdftex to generate pdf and print to a file from acrobat. Works for me. Frank 1-Aug-2000 1:20:06-GMT,1240;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27499 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:20:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA18105 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:43:21 -0400 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18102 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:43:20 -0400 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23545 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 01:46:35 +0100 Message-ID: <39861DEB.45E84813@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 01:46:35 +0100 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Re: Some findings on Belleek + pftex References: <39861961.275A881C@cs.ucc.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I wrote: > but I am quite happy with the results. Hmmm, well... large left parentheses disappear for some reason. Frank