2-Aug-2000 5:57:38-GMT,1395;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06210 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20725 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:19:16 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f135.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.135]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20722 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:19:10 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:23:32 -0700 Received: from 131.170.6.141 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [131.170.6.141] From: "Winai Bodhisuwan" To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 05:23:32 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2000 05:23:32.0906 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCD220A0:01BFFC41] Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, When I run pdflatex, there is an error Latex error! Unknown graphic extension: .eps. Could you please suggest me how to fix this problem? Thanks, Winai ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com 2-Aug-2000 6:44:53-GMT,1687;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07379 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:44:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20764 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:05:53 -0400 Received: from karst.Princeton.EDU (karst.Princeton.EDU [128.112.96.22]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20761 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:05:51 -0400 Received: from karst (karst [128.112.96.22]) by karst.Princeton.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA46216; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:10:48 -0400 From: Hans Fredrik Nordhaug X-Sender: nordhaug@karst To: Winai Bodhisuwan cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Winai Bodhisuwan wrote: > Hi, > > When I run pdflatex, there is an error > Latex error! Unknown graphic extension: .eps. This must be THE most frequently ask question in the list. Read the FAQ first next time. pdf(la)tex doesn't support ps/eps-files. Convert them to pdf/png/gif. Hans Fredrik #################################################### Hans Fredrik Nordhaug , Ph.D. student visiting at the Department of Civil & Environmental Engineering, Princeton University. Department of Mathematics, University of Bergen WEB: http://www.mi.uib.no/~hansfn 2-Aug-2000 8:14:12-GMT,1541;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA08972 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:14:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20832 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:38:00 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com ([210.212.246.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA20829 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:37:54 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11309; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:13:52 +0530 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:07:28 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Winai Bodhisuwan cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Winai Bodhisuwan wrote: | | When I run pdflatex, there is an error | Latex error! Unknown graphic extension: .eps. Surely you will get that error, because pdfTeX doesn't support eps graphic inclusion. Instead you shall convert your eps files to pdf by using appropriate tools (like epstopdf) and include them. | | Could you please suggest me how to fix this problem? Kindly read pdfTeX FAQ. -- Radhakrishnan 2-Aug-2000 10:50:38-GMT,2126;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11613 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 04:50:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA21046 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:15:35 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21043 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:15:33 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.103]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAC5402; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:20:01 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000802121647.00888430@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:16:47 +0200 To: Hans Fredrik Nordhaug From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: your mail Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 02:10 AM 8/2/00 -0400, Hans Fredrik Nordhaug wrote: >On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Winai Bodhisuwan wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> When I run pdflatex, there is an error >> Latex error! Unknown graphic extension: .eps. > >This must be THE most frequently ask question in the list. >Read the FAQ first next time. even better: read the message -) maybe the message should be Latex error! Unsupported graphic format: .eps. In general, including a png in dvips mode probably also generates a message, so it's not even related to pdftex. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Aug-2000 16:39:33-GMT,2238;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19432 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:39:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21421 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:04:27 -0400 Received: from host30.lctn.u-nancy.fr (host30.lctn.u-nancy.fr [192.54.210.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21418 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:04:20 -0400 Received: from lctn.u-nancy.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by host30.lctn.u-nancy.fr (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id SAA03894 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3988C63A.4853525B@lctn.u-nancy.fr> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 18:09:14 -0700 From: Chris Chipot Organization: Laboratoire de Chimie Theorique X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5 IP30) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Compilation aborted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am desperately trying to compile pdftex. Unfortunately, compilation is aborted when entering the libs/xpdf/xpdf subdirectory: cd libs/xpdf/xpdf; make libxpdf.a -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I./../goo -I. -I. -DPDF_PARSER_ONLY -c Array.cc sh: -DHAVE_CONFIG_H: not found *** Error code 127 (bu21) *** Error code 1 (bu21) Could you, please, help me solve this difficulty asap ? Thanks, Chris _______________________________________________________________________ Chris Chipot, Ph.D. Laboratoire de Chimie Theorique Phone: (33) 3-83-91-25-96 U.M.R. C.N.R.S. No 7565 Fax: (33) 3-83-91-25-30 Universite Henri Poincare - Nancy I B.P. 239 54506 Vandoeuvre-les-Nancy Cedex E-mail: chipot@lctn.u-nancy.fr http://www.lctn.u-nancy.fr/Chercheurs/Chris.Chipot To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men Ella Wheeler Wilcox _______________________________________________________________________ 2-Aug-2000 16:58:29-GMT,1756;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20102; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:58:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17769; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:58:19 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:58:19 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: Chris Chipot Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, pdftex@tug.org X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: Compilation aborted Message-ID: >> sh: -DHAVE_CONFIG_H: not found This says that part of the compiler command line was see as the start of a new shell command: I suspect a backslash is missing at the end of the previous line in the Makefile. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Aug-2000 17:26:12-GMT,1573;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20954 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:26:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21521 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:48:44 -0400 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21518 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:48:38 -0400 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05785; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:51:57 +0100 Message-ID: <398851AD.5B6DEA1D@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:51:57 +0100 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Chipot CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Compilation aborted References: <3988C63A.4853525B@lctn.u-nancy.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Chris Chipot wrote: > cd libs/xpdf/xpdf; make libxpdf.a > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I./../goo -I. -I. -DPDF_PARSER_ONLY -c > Array.cc > sh: -DHAVE_CONFIG_H: not found Looks like a missing \ at the end of the first line. This is needed to escape the normal shell behavior to execute each line it sees. Maybe it is there and your shell does not support it? I suppose sh is a symlink to some shell. Which one is it in your installation? Frank 2-Aug-2000 17:28:21-GMT,2279;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21013 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21551 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:53:30 -0400 Received: from csc-sun.math.utah.edu (root@csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21548 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:53:26 -0400 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20102; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:58:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17769; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:58:19 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:58:19 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: Chris Chipot Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, pdftex@tug.org X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: Compilation aborted Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >> sh: -DHAVE_CONFIG_H: not found This says that part of the compiler command line was see as the start of a new shell command: I suspect a backslash is missing at the end of the previous line in the Makefile. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Aug-2000 16:58:29-GMT,1756;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20102; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:58:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17769; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:58:19 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:58:19 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: Chris Chipot Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, pdftex@tug.org X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: Compilation aborted Message-ID: >> sh: -DHAVE_CONFIG_H: not found This says that part of the compiler command line was see as the start of a new shell command: I suspect a backslash is missing at the end of the previous line in the Makefile. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Aug-2000 17:47:18-GMT,1999;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21806 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:47:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21594 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:12:01 -0400 Received: from eiismtp.electricimg.com (electricimg.com [199.35.234.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21591 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:11:58 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (ip81.electricimg.com [199.35.234.81] (may be forged)) by eiismtp.electricimg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02071; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:25:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3988585F.23550F36@csee.usf.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:20:31 -0700 From: Himanshu Gohel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Chipot CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Compilation aborted References: <3988C63A.4853525B@lctn.u-nancy.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Chris Chipot wrote: > I am desperately trying to compile pdftex. Unfortunately, compilation > is aborted when entering the libs/xpdf/xpdf subdirectory: > > cd libs/xpdf/xpdf; make libxpdf.a > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I./../goo -I. -I. -DPDF_PARSER_ONLY -c > Array.cc > sh: -DHAVE_CONFIG_H: not found > *** Error code 127 (bu21) > *** Error code 1 (bu21) Seems like the compiler variable is not defined, either in the makefile or in your environment. Try this: echo $CC (or even: printenv $CC) If it's not set to anything, try "setenv CC gcc" where gcc can be substituted by the name of your system's compiler. And I'm assuming you're using csh or tcsh. If you use sh/ksh/... then you would have to say something like "CC=gcc export CC" and then run the make command. Good luck, Himanshu Gohel, gohel@csee.usf.edu 2-Aug-2000 19:29:55-GMT,1628;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25382 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:29:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21689 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:38:15 -0400 Received: from eiismtp.electricimg.com (electricimg.com [199.35.234.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21686 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:38:13 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (ip81.electricimg.com [199.35.234.81] (may be forged)) by eiismtp.electricimg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02249; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:52:26 -0700 Message-ID: <39886CA7.9DDCDCE0@csee.usf.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:47:03 -0700 From: Himanshu Gohel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Chipot CC: pdftex Subject: Re: Compilation aborted References: <3988E84C.769A8379@lctn.u-nancy.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello Chris, Similar problem, but this time the linker is not declared. Normally $CC is used, but in this case maybe another variable perhaps $LD is being used by the makefile, but not declared as "ld" All this points to a configuration problem - does pdfTeX require one to run the "configure" program at the beginning? If that doesn't do it's job right, these kinds of problems could occur. Himanshu 3-Aug-2000 5:45:46-GMT,1995;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09138 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:45:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22390 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:56:57 -0400 Received: from karst.Princeton.EDU (karst.Princeton.EDU [128.112.96.22]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22387 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:56:56 -0400 Received: from clay (clay [128.112.96.11]) by karst.Princeton.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA86825 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:02:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:01:59 -0400 From: Hans Fredrik Nordhaug X-Sender: nordhaug@clay To: pdfTeX Subject: [Q] pdf and png alpha transparency Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I have been searching this list, comp.text.pdf and so on with out really finding an answer to this: Does pdf (1.3) support inclusion of png-files with alpha transparency? I read something (on this list ?) about new specs for pdf (1.4) and png alpha transparency which made me think that it isn't supported... If it is supported then I have a problem with pdf(la)tex: Including a png file with alpha transparency always results in a file with the png not being transparent. Is there a solution for this? Upgrade to newest pdftex or something. (The png file is converted from gif - without loosing the transparency - using Fireworks3. [Normally I stick to unix]) Hans #################################################### Hans Fredrik Nordhaug , Ph.D. student visiting at the Department of Civil & Environmental Engineering, Princeton University. Department of Mathematics, University of Bergen WEB: http://www.mi.uib.no/~hansfn 3-Aug-2000 10:33:56-GMT,10350;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from host30.lctn.u-nancy.fr (host30.lctn.u-nancy.fr [192.54.210.37]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14385 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 04:33:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from lctn.u-nancy.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by host30.lctn.u-nancy.fr (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id MAA78428; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: chipot@lctn.u-nancy.fr Message-ID: <3989C91F.FC04BD33@lctn.u-nancy.fr> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 12:33:51 -0700 From: Chris Chipot Organization: Laboratoire de Chimie Theorique X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5 IP30) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Himanshu Gohel CC: beebe@math.utah.edu, f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie Subject: Re: Compilation aborted References: <3988E84C.769A8379@lctn.u-nancy.fr> <39886CA7.9DDCDCE0@csee.usf.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Himanshu, We simply decided to restart from scratch by reinstalling the distribu- tion from ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/ on /tmp, and follow carefully the instructions. It is said that files dedicated to pdftex should be retrieved from a separate .tgz file, ie. pdftexsrc- 20000525.tgz, available at the same location, and installed in the /tmp/src/texk/web2c directory. Please, note that after configure, no operational Makefile is generated in the pdftexdir and pdfetexdir dir- ectories. As a result, when attempting to make pdftex, at the link stage, compilation is aborted with: ./../klibtool link -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm ./../klibtool[554]: -o: not found *** Error code 127 (bu21) *** Error code 1 (bu21) Obviously a gcc is missing in the Makefile. If you correct this error, the result is: ./../klibtool link gcc -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm gcc -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm ld32: WARNING 84 : /usr/lib32/libm.so is not used for resolving any symbol. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "readconfigfile" -- 1st referenced by pdftexini.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "cfgpar" -- 1st referenced by pdftexini.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "writezip" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "writestreamlength" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "getpkcharwidth" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "checkextfm" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "setcharmap" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "fmlookup" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "tfmoffm" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "newvfpacket" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "storepacket" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "packetbyte" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "pushpacketstate" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "startpacket" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "poppacketstate" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "writeimage" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "deleteimage" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "ispdfimage" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "imagewidth" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "extxnoverd" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "imageheight" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "epdforigx" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "epdforigy" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "updateimageprocset" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "checkimageb" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "checkimagec" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "checkimagei" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "iscfgtruedimen" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "setjobid" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "getresnameprefix" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "imagexres" -- 1st referenced by pdftex2.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "imageyres" -- 1st referenced by pdftex2.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "readimage" -- 1st referenced by pdftex2.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "imagepages" -- 1st referenced by pdftex2.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "pdfmapfile" -- 1st referenced by pdftex2.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "dopdffont" -- 1st referenced by pdftex3.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "libpdffinish" -- 1st referenced by pdftex3.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "maketexstring" -- 1st referenced by pdftexextra.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: INFO 152: Output file removed because of error. *** Error code 1 (bu21) *** Error code 1 (bu21) are loaded. ld32: INFO 152: Output file removed because of error. *** Error code 1 (bu21) *** Error code 1 (bu21) This is clearly the result of no compilation in the pdftexdir directo- ries. Any suggestion on how to correct this ? Thanks, Chris _______________________________________________________________________ Chris Chipot, Ph.D. Laboratoire de Chimie Theorique Phone: (33) 3-83-91-25-96 U.M.R. C.N.R.S. No 7565 Fax: (33) 3-83-91-25-30 Universite Henri Poincare - Nancy I B.P. 239 54506 Vandoeuvre-les-Nancy Cedex E-mail: chipot@lctn.u-nancy.fr http://www.lctn.u-nancy.fr/Chercheurs/Chris.Chipot To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men Ella Wheeler Wilcox _______________________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-2000 16:18:44-GMT,9974;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21636 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:18:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23483 for pdftex-list; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:34:43 -0400 Received: from host30.lctn.u-nancy.fr (host30.lctn.u-nancy.fr [192.54.210.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23480 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:34:42 -0400 Received: from lctn.u-nancy.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by host30.lctn.u-nancy.fr (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA91628 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3989926F.19AF3939@lctn.u-nancy.fr> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:40:31 -0700 From: Chris Chipot Organization: Laboratoire de Chimie Theorique X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5 IP30) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: PDFTEX - installation problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I just installed the PDFTEX distribution available at the following si- te: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/, on the /tmp directory as suggested. Files dedicated to PDFTEX were retrieved from a separate .tgz file, i.e. pdftexsrc-20000525.tgz, originated from the same location, and installed in the /tmp/src/texk/web2c directory. Note that after the configure -datadir /usr/freeware/lib step, no operatio- nal Makefile was generated in the pdftexdir and pdfetexdir directories. As a result, when attempting to make pdftex, at the link stage, compi- lation was aborted with: ./../klibtool link gcc -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm gcc -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm ld32: WARNING 84 : /usr/lib32/libm.so is not used for resolving any symbol. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "readconfigfile" -- 1st referenced by pdftexini.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "cfgpar" -- 1st referenced by pdftexini.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "writezip" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "writestreamlength" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "getpkcharwidth" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "checkextfm" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "setcharmap" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "fmlookup" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "tfmoffm" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "newvfpacket" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "storepacket" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "packetbyte" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "pushpacketstate" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "startpacket" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "poppacketstate" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "writeimage" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "deleteimage" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "ispdfimage" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "imagewidth" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "extxnoverd" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "imageheight" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "epdforigx" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "epdforigy" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "updateimageprocset" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "checkimageb" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "checkimagec" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "checkimagei" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "iscfgtruedimen" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "setjobid" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "getresnameprefix" -- 1st referenced by pdftex1.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "imagexres" -- 1st referenced by pdftex2.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "imageyres" -- 1st referenced by pdftex2.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "readimage" -- 1st referenced by pdftex2.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "imagepages" -- 1st referenced by pdftex2.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "pdfmapfile" -- 1st referenced by pdftex2.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "dopdffont" -- 1st referenced by pdftex3.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "libpdffinish" -- 1st referenced by pdftex3.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: ERROR 33 : Unresolved text symbol "maketexstring" -- 1st referenced by pdftexextra.o. Use linker option -v to see when and which objects, archives and dsos are loaded. ld32: INFO 152: Output file removed because of error. *** Error code 1 (bu21) *** Error code 1 (bu21) are loaded. ld32: INFO 152: Output file removed because of error. *** Error code 1 (bu21) *** Error code 1 (bu21) If someone has a helpful suggestion to correct this, please let us know asap. Thanks a lot, Chris _______________________________________________________________________ Chris Chipot, Ph.D. Laboratoire de Chimie Theorique Phone: (33) 3-83-91-25-96 U.M.R. C.N.R.S. No 7565 Fax: (33) 3-83-91-25-30 Universite Henri Poincare - Nancy I B.P. 239 54506 Vandoeuvre-les-Nancy Cedex E-mail: chipot@lctn.u-nancy.fr http://www.lctn.u-nancy.fr/Chercheurs/Chris.Chipot To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men Ella Wheeler Wilcox _______________________________________________________________________ 3-Aug-2000 20:37:00-GMT,1718;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29085 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:36:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23770 for pdftex-list; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:01:02 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23765 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:00:59 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13KRFk-0000k5-00; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:06:04 +0100 Received: from max83.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.83] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13KRFj-00011l-00; Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:06:03 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14729.52559.250367.159357@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:51:43 +0100 (BST) To: chipot@lctn.u-nancy.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: PDFTEX - installation problem In-Reply-To: <3989926F.19AF3939@lctn.u-nancy.fr> References: <3989926F.19AF3939@lctn.u-nancy.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk You cannot take pdftex in isolation. you need an entire web2c 7.3 setup, and then plug in pdftex on top. is that what you did? a Good Solution is to install tetex-beta, compile from its source tree, and then update pdftex if needed. Sebastian 4-Aug-2000 7:07:48-GMT,2433;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13570 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 01:07:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA24394 for pdftex-list; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 01:25:58 -0400 Received: from smtp01ffm.de.uu.net (smtp01ffm.de.uu.net [192.76.144.150]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24391 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 01:25:55 -0400 Received: from 192.109.126.97 (NS-1.mitgmbh.de [192.109.126.62]) by smtp01ffm.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with SMTP id IAA19679 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:30:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mitgmbh.de [192.109.126.82] by NS-1.MITGMBH.DE with David PostMan; 04 Aug 00 06:30:52 UT Message-ID: <398A631A.A9121121@mitgmbh.de> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:30:50 +0200 From: Andreas Scherer Organization: MIT GmbH, Aachen, Germany X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: PDF support in CWEB 3.61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, In mid-May I reported to this list about the latest release of the Literate Programming tool CWEB 3.6 by S. Levy and D. E. Knuth. At that time DEK had announced a "new feature" of CWEB, i. e., support for PDF output with the help of Mark Wick's dvipdfm postprocessor. Years earlier the pdfTeX distribution already had an adaptation of the (Pascal) WEB macros with PDF support, pdfwebmac.tex. As early as March 1997 these macros had been adapted to the conventions of CWEB in the form of pdfcwebmac.tex, shipped with my CWEBbin package and the support library of pdfTeX. In a short cycle of revisions, cwebmac.tex 3.6 and pdfcwebmac.tex have been merged to cwebmac.tex 3.61, supporting "plain TeX," "plain TeX plus dvipdfm," and "pdfTeX" in a single set of macros. These updated macros are now shipped with CWEB 3.61, see http://www-cs-staff.stanford.edu/~knuth/cweb.html. The former pdf[dfi]cwebmac.tex are now shipped as [dfi]cwebmac.tex with CWEBbin 3.61 [p18], providing translations of the TeX tags for French (f), German (d), and Italian (i), see ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/web/c_cpp/cwebbin. Any old versions of pdf[dfi]cwebmac.tex should be destroyed and deleted. Greetings, Andreas 4-Aug-2000 9:32:38-GMT,1965;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16255 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 03:32:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA24481 for pdftex-list; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 03:57:07 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24478 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 03:57:04 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27123 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:01:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06803 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:01:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200008040901.LAA06803@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: call for help with hebrew & latin To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:01:30 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, I would like to prepare some samples of typesetting using multiple variants of letters. The idea is to replace certain letters by other variants so the interword spaces don't have to be stretched or shrunk so much. For example, the terminal letters in words in hebrew text can be replaced by their wider counterparts in order to avoid wide spaces between words. Or in latin text, when a wovel is followed by `m' or `n', then such `m' or `n' can be dropped by placing a tilde above the vowel. I have built a mechanism so such techniques can be automated in pdftex, but I have no knowledge of hebrew and latin. It would be much appreciated if someone can help me to prepare such samples. Regards, Thanh 9-Aug-2000 11:21:55-GMT,1238;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA15506 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:21:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA32546 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:42:33 -0400 Received: from itcnt04.itc.nl (itcnt04.itc.nl [192.87.16.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA32543 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:42:31 -0400 Received: by itcnt04.itc.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:54:54 +0200 Message-ID: From: Rolf de By To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Generating PDF1.2 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:54:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am afraid this is so trivial, and that I am overlooking the obvious . . . But, how does one generate PDF1.2 from a distribution that by default generates 1.3? The only way I see now is PDF1.3 -> ps -> PDF1.2. Surely there are better ways? Help/comments appreciated, Rolf 9-Aug-2000 12:15:23-GMT,2009;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA16387 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:15:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA32616 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:38:35 -0400 Received: from tmpil001.tmp.allied.com (tmpil001.tmp.allied.com [198.80.19.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA32613 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:38:33 -0400 Received: from tmpnt701.allied.com (alliedsignal.com) by tmpil001.tmp.allied.com with SMTP id EAA14804 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Wed, 9 Aug 2000 04:44:00 -0700 Received: from 165.195.14.21 by tmpnt701.allied.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 09 Aug 2000 04:43:58 -0700 Received: by sophb201.europe.allied.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:43:53 +0200 Message-Id: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83BF@GNNEX221> From: "Tourte, Gregory" To: "'pdftex mailing list'" Subject: Appendices with pdftex and hyperref Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:43:51 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello there! First I don;t if there is a problem with the list or if every one is on holidays but I haven't recieved any message from the list for a long time!! Anyway, I am try to have appendices in a LaTeX document which works Ok in the document itself but when compiled with pdfLaTeX and hyperref the bookmarks are wrong: Part A | Part B | Appendix A |_Appendix B Yes BTW I have change the behaviour of \appendix in the article class so that they are parts and not chapter! But I don't think this is the reason. I think it is more from the fact that the part (or chapter) counter are reset to 0 and hyperref gets 2 links with the same name! but I don't know how to change that! Cheers for your help! Greg Tourte 9-Aug-2000 12:50:55-GMT,2423;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17013 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:50:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA32656 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:12:38 -0400 Received: from tmpil001.tmp.allied.com (tmpil001.tmp.allied.com [198.80.19.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA32653 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:12:36 -0400 Received: from tmpnt701.allied.com (alliedsignal.com) by tmpil001.tmp.allied.com with SMTP id FAA20839 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:18:04 -0700 Received: from 165.195.14.21 by tmpnt701.allied.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 09 Aug 2000 05:18:02 -0700 Received: by sophb201.europe.allied.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:17:47 +0200 Message-Id: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83C0@GNNEX221> From: "Tourte, Gregory" To: "'pdftex mailing list'" Subject: RE: Appendices with pdftex and hyperref Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:17:45 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Well actually, I solved the problem myself by creating a new counter 'appendix' and used that on instead of 'part'!! and it worked! Thanks any way!! Greg Tourte > -----Original Message----- > From: Tourte, Gregory > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 1:44 PM > To: 'pdftex mailing list' > Subject: Appendices with pdftex and hyperref > > > Hello there! > > First I don;t if there is a problem with the list or if every > one is on holidays but I haven't recieved any message from > the list for a long time!! > > Anyway, I am try to have appendices in a LaTeX document which > works Ok in the document itself but when compiled with > pdfLaTeX and hyperref the bookmarks are wrong: > > Part A > | > Part B > | > Appendix A > |_Appendix B > > Yes BTW I have change the behaviour of \appendix in the > article class so that they are parts and not chapter! But I > don't think this is the reason. I think it is more from the > fact that the part (or chapter) counter are reset to 0 and > hyperref gets 2 links with the same name! but I don't know > how to change that! > > Cheers for your help! > > Greg Tourte > 9-Aug-2000 13:07:34-GMT,3680;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17370 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:07:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA32680 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:31:16 -0400 Received: from gwdu42.gwdg.de (root@gwdu42.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA32677 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:31:14 -0400 Received: from gwdu20.gwdg.de ([134.76.98.2] ident=dweiss1) by gwdu42.gwdg.de with smtp (Exim 3.14 #16) id 13MV6A-0004cs-00; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 14:36:42 +0200 Received: from localhost by gwdu20.gwdg.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/11Feb98-0154PM) id AA18758; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:36:41 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:36:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: Daniel Weiss To: "Tourte, Gregory" Cc: "'pdftex mailing list'" Subject: Re: Appendices with pdftex and hyperref In-Reply-To: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83BF@GNNEX221> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Tourte, Gregory wrote: > Hello there! > > First I don;t if there is a problem with the list or if every one is on > holidays but I haven't recieved any message from the list for a long time!! > > Anyway, I am try to have appendices in a LaTeX document which works Ok in > the document itself but when compiled with pdfLaTeX and hyperref the > bookmarks are wrong: > > Part A > | > Part B > | > Appendix A > |_Appendix B > > Yes BTW I have change the behaviour of \appendix in the article class so > that they are parts and not chapter! But I don't think this is the reason. I > think it is more from the fact that the part (or chapter) counter are reset > to 0 and hyperref gets 2 links with the same name! but I don't know how to > change that! > > Cheers for your help! Hi, I used pdflatex and appendices. Here's my code: \addtocontents{toc}{\protect\vspace{5ex}} \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{\numberline{}{\bf \large Appendix}} \appendix \renewcommand{\chaptername}{Appendix} % XALIGN manual \input{appendix/xalign.ltx} \clearemptydoublepage % FT of circular disc \input{appendix/disc_FT.ltx} \clearemptydoublepage % ordered-queue watershed \input{appendix/oq_watershed.ltx} \clearemptydoublepage The first two lines are just for the table of contents. \appendix is only called once, and in the \inputted files I call \chapter{...}. In the PDF file, the appendices all appear at the same tree depth as the chapters before, as A Manual..., B Fourier..., etc. Compiled with pdftex 0.14d, part of miktex 1.20e Hyperref options are: \usepackage[pdftex,colorlinks,bookmarks,bookmarksopen,bookmarksnumbered, backref]{hyperref} Greetings, Daniel Weiss tel: +49 551 399431 Institute for X-Ray Physics (IRP) fax: +49 551 399430 University Georgia Augusta at Goettingen email: Daniel.Weiss@ Geiststrasse 11, 37073 Goettingen, Germany phys.uni-goettingen.de PGP public key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x3D3E57B9&fingerprint=on (fingerprint: F0 4C B3 27 0E 36 08 C0 54 A7 73 DD ED 52 B0 9B) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOZFQWPSzBDo9Ple5AQFmQgP+KexCjwxnjV80drvLapuJjzGqGxXwd+fJ 7k5vq+j/SKGne7Kkkl+7Tu75taGo0/wqMsKycObBKOqbQmIBlLFZ52jfe/Q4lG5C OAzeaaNf1s2dnpHQ0hnHxAiATy3Ukatr2xFh7oWgaYuRJKspIV/ccAkUvGCnAVW2 aWkvO2MfjQg= =wcui -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 9-Aug-2000 13:32:52-GMT,2623;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17974 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:32:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA32711 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:56:46 -0400 Received: from tmpil001.tmp.allied.com (tmpil001.tmp.allied.com [198.80.19.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA32708 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:56:44 -0400 Received: from tmpnt701.allied.com (alliedsignal.com) by tmpil001.tmp.allied.com with SMTP id GAA01035 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:02:11 -0700 Received: from 165.195.14.21 by tmpnt701.allied.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 09 Aug 2000 06:02:09 -0700 Received: by sophb201.europe.allied.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:01:52 +0200 Message-Id: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83C2@GNNEX221> From: "Tourte, Gregory" To: "'pdftex mailing list'" Subject: RE: Appendices with pdftex and hyperref Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:01:50 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for filling your mailbox but my previous message is wrong (well some of you might have guessed so!) it does not take the counter into account so I need help! Greg Tourte > -----Original Message----- > From: Tourte, Gregory > > Well actually, I solved the problem myself by creating a new > counter 'appendix' and used that on instead of 'part'!! > and it worked! > > Thanks any way!! > > Greg Tourte > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tourte, Gregory > > > > Hello there! > > > > First I don;t if there is a problem with the list or if every > > one is on holidays but I haven't recieved any message from > > the list for a long time!! > > > > Anyway, I am try to have appendices in a LaTeX document which > > works Ok in the document itself but when compiled with > > pdfLaTeX and hyperref the bookmarks are wrong: > > > > Part A > > | > > Part B > > | > > Appendix A > > |_Appendix B > > > > Yes BTW I have change the behaviour of \appendix in the > > article class so that they are parts and not chapter! But I > > don't think this is the reason. I think it is more from the > > fact that the part (or chapter) counter are reset to 0 and > > hyperref gets 2 links with the same name! but I don't know > > how to change that! > > > > Cheers for your help! > > > > Greg Tourte > > > 9-Aug-2000 17:56:36-GMT,3367;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24473 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00739 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:20:31 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00733 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:20:29 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13MZc3-00009v-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:25:55 +0100 Received: from max66.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.66] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13MZc2-0002cA-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:25:54 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14737.38010.642584.733186@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:27:22 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Appendices with pdftex and hyperref In-Reply-To: <200008091357.JAA00459@tug.org> References: <200008091357.JAA00459@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk (heiko, dont talk about words like s u b s c r i b e. majordomo catches you) > Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 17:03:43 +0200 > To: "Tourte, Gregory" , > "'pdftex mailing list'" > From: Heiko Oberdiek > Subject: > In-Reply-To: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83BF@GNNEX221> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 13:43 09.08.00 +0200, Tourte, Gregory wrote: > >First I don;t if there is a problem with the list or if every one is on >holidays but I haven't recieved any message from the list for a long time!! * There was a long time without mails * Other persons and I were suddenly ********** (why?), ask "majordomo@tug.org" with body "who pdftex", whether you are ******* yet. >Anyway, I am try to have appendices in a LaTeX document which works Ok in >the document itself but when compiled with pdfLaTeX and hyperref the >bookmarks are wrong: > >Appendix A >|_Appendix B > >Yes BTW I have change the behaviour of \appendix in the article class so >that they are parts and not chapter! But I don't think this is the reason. I >think it is more from the fact that the part (or chapter) counter are reset >to 0 and hyperref gets 2 links with the same name! Yes, the current algorithmus does not allow two bookmarks with the same link name. I have plans and have started an algorithmus with extensions, that would allow this, but currently I do not have the time for implementation and testing. But in your case this does not matter: If two bookmarks should point to different locations, they have to be different link names. >but I don't know how to >change that! I does not know your changes, so I cannot help. Best would be a minimal test file. Yours sincerely Heiko 9-Aug-2000 17:56:46-GMT,1911;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24480 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:56:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00732 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:20:29 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00728 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:20:26 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13MZby-0005fr-00; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:25:50 +0100 Received: from max66.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.66] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13MZbx-0000K9-00; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:25:49 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14737.37886.765492.570229@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:25:18 +0100 (BST) To: Gregory.TOURTE@honeywell.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Appendices with pdftex and hyperref In-Reply-To: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83BF@GNNEX221> References: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83BF@GNNEX221> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Tourte, Gregory writes: > > First I don;t if there is a problem with the list or if every one is on > holidays but I haven't recieved any message from the list for a long time!! the list *did* get screwed up (sorry not to have replied to you about that, Heiko), and we lost some people's names. Unfortunately, I have not been able to recover them. spread the word to resubscribe.... sebastian 9-Aug-2000 23:55:17-GMT,1688;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04453 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:55:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01452 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:18:24 -0400 Received: from bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.141]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01449 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:18:23 -0400 Received: from che.utexas.edu (fischer.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.45]) by bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA80156 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:23:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3991E808.C5603E54@che.utexas.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:23:52 -0500 From: "Jeffrey J. Gray" Organization: Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Texas at Austin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/780) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: hyperref with lot, lof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, When I compile a document with a list of figures or list of tables, it breaks the hyperref package with errors about link annotations being nested. Has anyone figured out any ways to include the lot and lof with the hyperref package? I'm willing to settle for limited hyper-functionality on those pages, but I need the lists to be in my document. Thanks for the help. (And I hope it's ok that the scope of my question has more to do with hyperref than pdftex directly...) Jeff 10-Aug-2000 9:50:19-GMT,1866;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16640 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:50:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA02263 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:13:00 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA02260 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:12:57 -0400 Received: from remote142-62.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.62] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13MoTk-0001FH-00; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:18:22 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000810082404.007aa530@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 08:24:04 +0200 To: "Jeffrey J. Gray" , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref with lot, lof In-Reply-To: <3991E808.C5603E54@che.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 18:23 09.08.00 -0500, Jeffrey J. Gray wrote: > >When I compile a document with a list of figures or list of tables, it >breaks the hyperref package with errors about link annotations being >nested. Has anyone figured out any ways to include the lot and lof with >the hyperref package? I'm willing to settle for limited >hyper-functionality on those pages, but I need the lists to be in my >document. Because you are writing to the pdftex mailing list, I assume you are using pdfTeX? Uptodate versions can handle nested links, so an update of pdfTeX (and hyperref) will help. Yours sincerely Heiko 10-Aug-2000 12:37:46-GMT,1359;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA19608 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 06:37:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA02496 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:00:12 -0400 Received: from tmpil001.tmp.allied.com (tmpil001.tmp.allied.com [198.80.19.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA02493 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:00:10 -0400 Received: from tmpnt701.allied.com (alliedsignal.com) by tmpil001.tmp.allied.com with SMTP id FAA02375 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Thu, 10 Aug 2000 05:05:41 -0700 Received: from 165.195.14.21 by tmpnt701.allied.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 10 Aug 2000 05:05:38 -0700 Received: by sophb201.europe.allied.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:05:26 +0200 Message-Id: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83C6@GNNEX221> From: "Tourte, Gregory" To: "'pdftex mailing list'" Subject: pstricks! Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:05:17 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello there! Is there an equivalent extension to pstricks for pdftex? Thanks Greg Tourte 10-Aug-2000 15:54:10-GMT,1719;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24027 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 09:54:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02661 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:12:28 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02658 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:12:25 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.180]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id FZ315W03.9P3; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:17:56 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000810170838.01abed60@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:08:38 +0200 To: "Tourte, Gregory" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: pstricks! Cc: "'pdftex mailing list'" In-Reply-To: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83C6@GNNEX221> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 02:05 PM 8/10/00 +0200, Tourte, Gregory wrote: >Hello there! > >Is there an equivalent extension to pstricks for pdftex? metapost. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Aug-2000 19:01:01-GMT,1722;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29349 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:00:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02836 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:25:18 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02833 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:25:15 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26036; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:30:48 -0400 (EDT) To: "Tourte, Gregory" Cc: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: pstricks! References: <3.0.6.32.20000810170838.01abed60@pop.wxs.nl> From: Ed L Cashin Date: 10 Aug 2000 14:30:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: Hans Hagen's message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:08:38 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen writes: > At 02:05 PM 8/10/00 +0200, Tourte, Gregory wrote: > >Hello there! > > > >Is there an equivalent extension to pstricks for pdftex? > > metapost. pstricks is tied to postscript-specific \special commands. You can use MetaPost figures in your pdf _or_ postscript documents. http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/hobby/MetaPost.html -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 10-Aug-2000 20:20:54-GMT,2323;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01409 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:20:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02953 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:45:35 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02947 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:45:26 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.22.20]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id FZ3DS204.VVG; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:50:26 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000810214758.00997500@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:47:58 +0200 To: Ed L Cashin From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: pstricks! Cc: "Tourte, Gregory" , pdfTeX mailing list In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000810170838.01abed60@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 02:30 PM 8/10/00 -0400, Ed L Cashin wrote: >Hans Hagen writes: > >> At 02:05 PM 8/10/00 +0200, Tourte, Gregory wrote: >> >Hello there! >> > >> >Is there an equivalent extension to pstricks for pdftex? >> >> metapost. > >pstricks is tied to postscript-specific \special commands. You can >use MetaPost figures in your pdf _or_ postscript documents. > > http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/hobby/MetaPost.html context users may use metafun tricks to achieve similar effects in pdftex; my time is too limited to make that generic although some basic plain support is/will be available too Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Aug-2000 23:01:59-GMT,1848;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05720 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:01:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03166 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:25:45 -0400 Received: from bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.141]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03163 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:25:43 -0400 Received: from che.utexas.edu (fischer.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.45]) by bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA15136; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:29:19 -0500 Message-ID: <39932CE5.99C6895B@che.utexas.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:29:57 -0500 From: "Jeffrey J. Gray" Organization: Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Texas at Austin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/780) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Oberdiek , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: hyperref with lot, lof References: <3.0.6.32.20000810082404.007aa530@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > Because you are writing to the pdftex mailing list, I assume > you are using pdfTeX? Uptodate versions can handle nested > links, so an update of pdfTeX (and hyperref) will help. Thanks for the advice. I'm using pdftex from the latest teTeX distribution: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) which unfortunately is too old (Feb 2000). Is it possible for me to install the nesting functionality without having to rebuild everything from the source? Could you tell me which files I will need? Thanks again. Jeff 11-Aug-2000 15:17:46-GMT,2566;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24015 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:17:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04370 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:37:53 -0400 Received: from bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.141]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04367 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:37:52 -0400 Received: from jeffgray (dial-96-11.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.249.91]) by bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA146232 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:42:45 -0500 From: "Jeffrey J. Gray" To: Subject: compile errors: klibtool, comparison warnings Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:45:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Well, I guess I'm on the road now, trying to get this baby to compile... Please help. I'm on an SGI/IRIX, trying to update the pdftex package on top of the most recent (Feb 2000) teTeX package, following the instructions of the README in thanh's distribution (ftp.muni.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/). So far compiling is giving me two problems: First one: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jeff/tmp/pdfbuild/src/texk/web2c' ./../klibtool link -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex 3.o pdftexextra.o lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftex3.o pdftexextra.o lib/ lib.a ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm ./../klibtool[554]: -o: not found make[1]: *** [pdftex] Error 127 A previous posting on the list suggests defining CC as gcc and LD as ld, but this doesn't fix the problem. ("./configure --datadir /usr/freeware/share" seems to work fine, no errors reported) Is there something else I should set? Second problem: should I be concerned about warnings like this one?: pdftex1.c: In function `zpackbufferedname': pdftex1.c:1129: warning: comparison is always 0 due to limited range of data type I get quite a few of those in different files and functions. Thanks for the help!!! Jeff 11-Aug-2000 17:00:37-GMT,1327;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26762 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04494 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:16:04 -0400 Received: from tmpil001.tmp.allied.com (tmpil001.tmp.allied.com [198.80.19.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA04491 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:16:02 -0400 Received: from tmpnt701.allied.com (alliedsignal.com) by tmpil001.tmp.allied.com with SMTP id JAA12161 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:21:31 -0700 Received: from 165.195.14.21 by tmpnt701.allied.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:21:31 -0700 Received: by sophb201.europe.allied.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:21:29 +0200 Message-Id: <211593960887D311859B00508B55BCAF1F83CF@GNNEX221> From: "Tourte, Gregory" To: "'pdftex mailing list'" Subject: unsuscribe pdftex Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:21:26 +0200 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am changing address will join later to my new one! 11-Aug-2000 21:21:14-GMT,1526;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04078 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:21:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04821 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:42:03 -0400 Received: from mail4.worldkey.net (IDENT:root@[207.213.96.7]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04818 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:41:59 -0400 From: pbui@grci.com Received: from GRCI-ESG32WOPQG (05-041.031.popsite.net [64.244.0.41]) by mail4.worldkey.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA23873 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:00:45 -0700 Message-Id: <200008112100.OAA23873@mail4.worldkey.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:46:00 -0800 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Fwd: pdftex.fmt Organization: GRCI X-Mailer: Opera 4.01 build 754 X-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ------- Start of forwarded message ------- From: pbui@grci.com To: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk Organization: GRCI Subject: pdftex.fmt Date: 8/11/2000 5:14:43 PM Hi, My system can't find "pdftex.fmt". I read your response from the web. --------- pdftex -ini plain.tex mv plain.fmt pdftex.fmt pdftex -ini laatex.ltx mv latex.fmt pdflatex.fmt --------- My question is "where is the plain.tex?" I can't find it in my system either. Thanks -phuong -------- End of forwarded message -------- 11-Aug-2000 22:23:13-GMT,2062;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05444 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:23:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04866 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:48:10 -0400 Received: from eiismtp.electricimg.com (electricimg.com [199.35.234.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04863 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:48:04 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (ip81.electricimg.com [199.35.234.81] (may be forged)) by eiismtp.electricimg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24095 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:03:09 -0700 Message-ID: <399476EC.65A5DD8D@csee.usf.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:58:04 -0700 From: Himanshu Gohel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Re: Fwd: pdftex.fmt References: <200008112100.OAA23873@mail4.worldkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk pbui@grci.com wrote: > My system can't find "pdftex.fmt". I read your response from the [...snip...] > My question is "where is the plain.tex?" I can't find it in my > system either. Perhaps you can start by reading the TeX Directory Structure document (TDS) from your installation or from http://www.ctan.org/ If you can't find plain.tex, either you don't have TeX properly installed, or you haven't searched through all the trees. If you are running UNIX, this command will help you after you change to the directory that has your TeX installation: find . -type f -name plain.tex -ls (some systems like the option -print instead of the -ls). You may also use the "kpsewhich" command to find TeX related files, but I can't remember the switches for that. As for building and installing pdftex please read the manual (there's a section that describes problems) and FAQs. Good luck, Himanshu 14-Aug-2000 18:28:24-GMT,1674;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23659 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:28:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08535 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:30:05 -0400 Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08532 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:30:01 -0400 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D541155 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:35:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ecn.nl (p2340.ecn.nl [130.112.7.153]) by ecntex.ecn.nl with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id QAN8JYSM; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:35:39 +0200 Message-ID: <3997F5AB.87BF2F86@ecn.nl> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:35:39 +0200 From: "D.H. van Dok" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: strange .jpg problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm getting funny errors when I try to include one of a certain bunch of JPEGs I found on my system. They come from the developer's kit for the Canon Powershot; they are sample images. Anyway, here's the error line: Error: pdflatex (file Aut_0005.jpg): reading JPEG image failed I can't tell what's wrong with the JPEG's. My graphic programs think they're OK. If you like, I can supply the JPEG (108Kb) to you. Let me know. Dennis 14-Aug-2000 18:28:28-GMT,1544;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23667 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:28:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA08468 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:08:45 -0400 Received: from sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08465 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:08:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (oberdiek@localhost) by sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA20434; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:14:29 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:14:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: Heiko Oberdiek To: Stephan Lehmke cc: pdftex@tug.org, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Re: pdftex.def In-Reply-To: <200008141020.MAA12832@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Stephan Lehmke wrote: > is there any chance a new version of pdftex.def (supporting > \pagecolor) will reach CTAN before the Dante CD ROM is made? It is already on CTAN:macros/pdftex/graphics/pdftex.def. The latex/required/graphics location will be updated with the next LaTeX release. Yours sincerely Heiko 14-Aug-2000 18:28:31-GMT,1844;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23674 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:28:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08394 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 05:17:29 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08391 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 05:17:27 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id MAA22184; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:20:10 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200008141020.MAA12832@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id MAA12832; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:20:10 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:20:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: pdftex.def To: pdftex@tug.org, oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Cc: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: UqWglGxaTMFPOv/hht9M/Q== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, is there any chance a new version of pdftex.def (supporting \pagecolor) will reach CTAN before the Dante CD ROM is made? I'd appreciate this very much, because in this case I would drop my own hack from TeXPower. regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 14-Aug-2000 21:12:38-GMT,1588;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29221 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:12:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10084 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:33:58 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10081 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:33:54 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13OR1J-0006OU-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:39:41 +0100 Received: from max35.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.35] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13OR1I-0003Hq-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:39:41 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q) From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14744.22874.883732.634407@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:40:58 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: the pdftex list Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have resurrected an old copy of this list, and put a good many of you back. I expect I have also put back some people who have since left the list. Please accept my apologies, and u n s u b s c r i be again. Maybe I can keep the list straight now. Sebastian Rahtz 15-Aug-2000 7:20:32-GMT,2264;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12652 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:20:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10765 for pdftex-list; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:17:05 -0400 Received: from grad.csee.usf.edu (gohel@grad.csee.usf.edu [131.247.3.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10762 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:17:03 -0400 Received: (from gohel@localhost) by grad.csee.usf.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19911; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:16:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Himanshu Gohel Message-Id: <200008150616.CAA19911@grad.csee.usf.edu> To: jlbraams@cistron.nl, pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX driver for changebar Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm trying to write a PDF driver for a LaTeX package "changebar" that already works with PostScript. At first glance I thought it would be easy, but I have run into a problem, which may rule out the easy solution, which is to find the PDF equivalent of the small chunk of PostScript. However, before I jump to conclusions based on my very very superficial knowledge of PDF, I would like to ask you all if it is possible to find the equivalent of the following PS code: ... ... /CBarX1 exch def currentpoint exch pop /CBarY1 exch def ... ... /CBarX2 exch def currentpoint exch pop /CBarY2 exch def ... ... /CBarX3 exch def currentpoint exch pop /CBarY3 exch def ... gsave CBarX1 CBarY1 moveto CBarX3 CBarY3 lineto stroke grestore The actual parameters are not important. The idea is that the program outputs certain labeled pairs at various stages of execution, some of which are used later to draw the change bars in the document. The problems I see are two: 1. PDF does not allow storage of variables (CBarX1, CBarY1, ...) 2. PDF does not allow a query of currentpoint These two would make a direct translation impossible, correct? The other solution is not as easy, and that involves (La)TeX programming, so I'm a bit hesitant to give this up quickly :) -- Himanshu Gohel, Gohel@csee.usf.edu WEB URL: http://www.csee.usf.edu/~gohel/ 15-Aug-2000 11:36:12-GMT,1602;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16917 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 05:36:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11049 for pdftex-list; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 05:57:46 -0400 Received: from jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp [157.13.51.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11046 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 05:57:43 -0400 Received: by jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-kfsci) id UAA04122; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:05:14 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200008151105.UAA04122@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: A bug in pdftexdir/utils.c ? X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:05:13 +0900 From: Akira Kakuto Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I think pdftexdir/utils.c should be changed as follows: I failed to compile samplepdf.tex without the change. (Version is 0.14f-20000525). Thanks, Akira --------------------- --- utils.c.orig Wed May 10 21:40:12 2000 +++ utils.c Tue Aug 15 19:58:38 2000 @@ -240,7 +240,7 @@ int i, k, base = strlen(name_str); crc = crc32(0L, Z_NULL, 0); crc = crc32(crc, job_id_string, strlen(job_id_string)); - for (i = 0; i < 6; i--) { + for (i = 0; i < 6; i++) { prefix[i] = name_str[crc % base]; crc /= base; } 16-Aug-2000 9:00:12-GMT,2016;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16340 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:00:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA12317 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:17:10 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12314 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:17:05 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10301; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:22:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07115; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:22:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200008160822.KAA07115@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: A bug in pdftexdir/utils.c ? In-Reply-To: <200008151105.UAA04122@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> from Akira Kakuto at "Aug 15, 0 08:05:13 pm" To: kakuto@fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (Akira Kakuto) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:22:23 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I think pdftexdir/utils.c should be changed as follows: > I failed to compile samplepdf.tex without the change. > (Version is 0.14f-20000525). > > Thanks, > Akira > --------------------- > > --- utils.c.orig Wed May 10 21:40:12 2000 > +++ utils.c Tue Aug 15 19:58:38 2000 > @@ -240,7 +240,7 @@ > int i, k, base = strlen(name_str); > crc = crc32(0L, Z_NULL, 0); > crc = crc32(crc, job_id_string, strlen(job_id_string)); > - for (i = 0; i < 6; i--) { > + for (i = 0; i < 6; i++) { > prefix[i] = name_str[crc % base]; > crc /= base; > } oops! this is really a shameful bug. thanks for the report. Thanh 16-Aug-2000 9:00:14-GMT,1891;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16337 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:00:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA12324 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:17:52 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12321 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:17:48 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10383; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:23:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07243; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:23:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200008160823.KAA07243@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: strange .jpg problem In-Reply-To: <3997F5AB.87BF2F86@ecn.nl> from "D.H. van Dok" at "Aug 14, 0 03:35:39 pm" To: d.vandok@ecn.nl (D.H. van Dok) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:23:38 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I'm getting funny errors when I try to include one of a certain bunch of > JPEGs I found on my system. They come from the developer's kit for the > Canon Powershot; they are sample images. Anyway, here's the error line: > > Error: pdflatex (file Aut_0005.jpg): reading JPEG image failed > > I can't tell what's wrong with the JPEG's. My graphic programs think > they're OK. > If you like, I can supply the JPEG (108Kb) to you. Let me know. JPEG support is done by Osoba Jiri. It would be helpful to have the image, I will forward the problem to him. Thanh 16-Aug-2000 9:05:54-GMT,16164;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16464 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:05:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA12347 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:28:42 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12344 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:28:38 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11529; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:34:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08081; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:34:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200008160834.KAA08081@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdfTeX driver for changebar In-Reply-To: <200008150616.CAA19911@grad.csee.usf.edu> from Himanshu Gohel at "Aug 15, 0 02:16:44 am" To: gohel@csee.usf.edu (Himanshu Gohel) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:34:26 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM966414866-5820-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --ELM966414866-5820-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm trying to write a PDF driver for a LaTeX package "changebar" that > already works with PostScript. At first glance I thought it would be > easy, but I have run into a problem, which may rule out the easy solution, > which is to find the PDF equivalent of the small chunk of PostScript. > However, before I jump to conclusions based on my very very superficial > knowledge of PDF, I would like to ask you all if it is possible to > find the equivalent of the following PS code: > > ... > ... /CBarX1 exch def currentpoint exch pop /CBarY1 exch def > ... > ... /CBarX2 exch def currentpoint exch pop /CBarY2 exch def > ... > ... /CBarX3 exch def currentpoint exch pop /CBarY3 exch def > ... > gsave > CBarX1 CBarY1 moveto CBarX3 CBarY3 lineto stroke > grestore > > The actual parameters are not important. The idea is that the program > outputs certain labeled pairs at various stages of execution, > some of which are used later to draw the change bars in the document. > > The problems I see are two: > > 1. PDF does not allow storage of variables (CBarX1, CBarY1, ...) > 2. PDF does not allow a query of currentpoint > > These two would make a direct translation impossible, correct? > The other solution is not as easy, and that involves (La)TeX > programming, so I'm a bit hesitant to give this up quickly :) pdf doesn't support any programming possibility. I am not sure this is of any help: pdftex allows writing the current position of an arbitary point in the page to a file, so you can read access them in the second run. I appended an example; it's quote small (9KB), so I hope it's ok to send it here list. 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--ELM966414866-5820-0_ --ELM966414866-5820-0_-- 16-Aug-2000 15:45:13-GMT,2008;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24656 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:45:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12772 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:59:33 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12769 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:59:25 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13873; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:05:18 -0400 (EDT) To: pbui@grci.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Fwd: pdftex.fmt References: <200008112100.OAA23873@mail4.worldkey.net> From: Ed L Cashin Date: 16 Aug 2000 11:05:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: pbui@grci.com's message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:46:00 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk pbui@grci.com writes: > From: pbui@grci.com > Subject: pdftex.fmt > To: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk > Date: 8/11/2000 5:14:43 PM > Organization: GRCI > > > Hi, > > My system can't find "pdftex.fmt". I read your response from the > web. There's a user manual that gives directions. You can find a link at: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ > --------- > pdftex -ini plain.tex There are more arguments shown in the examples in the user manual. > mv plain.fmt pdftex.fmt > pdftex -ini laatex.ltx > mv latex.fmt pdflatex.fmt > --------- It's likely you also have to rebuild the kpathsea database with the "mktexlsr" command, so that tex and friends can find the formats you generate. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 16-Aug-2000 15:52:40-GMT,1568;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24849 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:52:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12804 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:12:02 -0400 Received: from mail.cise.ufl.edu (IDENT:75@coast.cise.ufl.edu [128.227.205.212]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12801 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:12:00 -0400 Received: from crystal.cise.ufl.edu (crystal.cise.ufl.edu [128.227.35.164]) by mail.cise.ufl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBDEDC7F for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (vparkhe@localhost) by crystal.cise.ufl.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA12478 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:17:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: crystal.cise.ufl.edu: vparkhe owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:17:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Vidyamani Parkhe To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: help with figures Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am using 'pdflatex' to convert some .tex files to .pdf. I am having problems with figures, in that the generated pdf has blocks replaced with figures. Rectangular boxes with 'figure2-1.eps' written therein. Is there any way i could get over this ?? Thanks, Vidyamani Parkhe 16-Aug-2000 17:56:14-GMT,1586;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28416 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:56:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13004 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:18:14 -0400 Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13001 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:18:11 -0400 Received: from biology.usu.edu (129.123.16.3 [129.123.16.3]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id P0F01ZJG; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:24:05 -0600 Message-ID: <399ACE72.46B327F9@biology.usu.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:25:06 -0600 From: "James W. Haefner" Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX Subject: On the single most FAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I propose that the pdftex discussion group software be altered so as to PREFACE each message with the following: PDFTEX AND PDFLATEX DOES NOT IMPORT *.PS OR *.EPS FIGURES. CONVERT EPS FIGURES TO PDF WITH THE "EPSTOPDF" UTILITY. -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 16-Aug-2000 18:14:36-GMT,12925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28943 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:14:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13032 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:37:41 -0400 Received: from yogi.pc1.uni-duesseldorf.de (yogi.pc1.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.152.44]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13029 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:37:38 -0400 Received: (from jochen@localhost) by yogi.pc1.uni-duesseldorf.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15933; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:44:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="tvreeNmJxh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14746.54005.173509.995629@yogi.pc1.uni-duesseldorf.de> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:44:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Jochen Kuepper To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: recent pdftex crashes on Linux/AXP X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --tvreeNmJxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Description: message body text Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, I grabbed a recent teTeX-beta src package and compiled/installed it on ix86-pc-linux-gnu and alphaev5-dec-linux-gnu machines (Both are RedHat 6.2, the x86 has a compiler upgrade to gcc-2.95.2). I fixed the bug in pdftexdir/utils.c. The x86 machine just runes fine, on the alpha box pdflatex crashes a soon as it tries to include a PDF-graphic; PNG graphics inclusion works. I attach a minmial document and a small graphics file that show the problem. Note again that it works on the intel box just fine. Is anybody out here running pdftex on Linux/AXP? 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tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13080 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:17:45 -0400 Received: from max136.public.ox.ac.uk (max136.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.136]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA13542; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:23:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:22:17 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Vidyamani Parkhe cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: help with figures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Vidyamani Parkhe wrote: > > Hi, > > I am using 'pdflatex' to convert some .tex files to .pdf. I am having > problems with figures, in that the generated pdf has blocks replaced > with figures. Rectangular boxes with 'figure2-1.eps' written therein. > Is there any way i could get over this ?? Convert them to eps using gs6.** via epstopdf or use Distiller on dvips output. In short, pdftex only handles pdf and png figures and (on some versions, maybe all now?) jpg and tiff. It does *not* handle eps. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 16-Aug-2000 19:14:07-GMT,1972;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00529 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:14:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13107 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:36:57 -0400 Received: from eiismtp.electricimg.com (electricimg.com [199.35.234.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13104 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:36:55 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (ip81.electricimg.com [199.35.234.81] (may be forged)) by eiismtp.electricimg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02465 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:52:19 -0700 Message-ID: <399AE1BC.F11FCF75@csee.usf.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:47:24 -0700 From: Himanshu Gohel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: On the single most FAQ References: <399ACE72.46B327F9@biology.usu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "James W. Haefner" wrote: > I propose that the pdftex discussion group software be altered so as to > PREFACE each message with the following: > > PDFTEX AND PDFLATEX DOES NOT IMPORT *.PS OR *.EPS FIGURES. CONVERT EPS > FIGURES TO PDF WITH THE "EPSTOPDF" UTILITY. :) My guess is that it won't help. People who read the messages on the list already know that. People who don't will join the list and immediately fire-off a message asking that question, most likely before reading the mail archives. So instead I propose that when someone subscribes to the list, the subscriber should get a link to the FAQ and mail archives, and there should be a "I have read the info" button at the bottom of the web page, which he must click before he can post any messages!!! Sorta like a license agreement... Himanshu 16-Aug-2000 19:39:33-GMT,1875;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01245 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:39:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13136 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:03:24 -0400 Received: from mail.cise.ufl.edu (IDENT:75@coast.cise.ufl.edu [128.227.205.212]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13133 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:03:22 -0400 Received: from gnat.cise.ufl.edu (gnat.cise.ufl.edu [128.227.248.17]) by mail.cise.ufl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CAFDCDE; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (vparkhe@localhost) by gnat.cise.ufl.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA03540; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:09:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gnat.cise.ufl.edu: vparkhe owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:09:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Vidyamani Parkhe To: "Jeffrey J. Gray" , Himanshu Gohel , "Smith, Stephen" , Prof Brian D Ripley Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: help with figures In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk hi, I did the following - 1. converted the .eps to .pdf using 'epstopdf' 2. used the 'pdftex' option for the 'graphicx' package 3. used the 'includegraphics' command to insert the .pdf the outputed pdf shows me the figure replaced by the words - 'use the direct method instead' I am sorry to be sending you mass mails -- i am sort of running short of time. Thanks, vidyamani 16-Aug-2000 19:54:47-GMT,2048;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01622 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:54:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13151 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:18:15 -0400 Received: from yogi.pc1.uni-duesseldorf.de (yogi.pc1.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.152.44]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13148 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:18:11 -0400 Received: (from jochen@localhost) by yogi.pc1.uni-duesseldorf.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18794; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:25:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <14746.60039.301137.187924@yogi.pc1.uni-duesseldorf.de> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:24:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Jochen Kuepper To: Himanshu Gohel Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: recent pdftex crashes on Linux/AXP In-Reply-To: <399AE848.79A6F322@csee.usf.edu> References: <14746.54005.173509.995629@yogi.pc1.uni-duesseldorf.de> <399AE848.79A6F322@csee.usf.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id OAA13149 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Himanshu Gohel writes: I hope it is ok with you to post this to the ml, maybe someone else gets an idea from it? > Without running any tests on your files, pdftex.def comes to mind - > do you have the same and latest version on both systems? The systems are using the (physically) same texmf tree. pdftex.def is \ProvidesFile{pdftex.def}[2000/05/31 v0.02v graphics/color for pdftex] I think that is the latest version, isn't it? Jochen -- Heinrich-Heine-Universität, Institut für Physikalische Chemie I Universitätsstr. 1, Geb. 26.43 Raum 02.29 40225 Düsseldorf, Germany phone ++49-211-8113681 http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de fax ++49-211-8115195 16-Aug-2000 23:23:50-GMT,1526;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06940 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:23:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13439 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:25:05 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13436 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:25:03 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13PBi5-0005Sn-00 for pdftex@www.tug.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:30:57 +0100 Received: from max17.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.17] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13PBi5-0004Ju-00 for pdftex@www.tug.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:30:57 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14747.5954.766907.567755@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:35:46 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex list again Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk can anyone tell me who or what pdftex@btamail.net.cn might be? it makes me nervous, and I zapped it feedback welcome sebastian rahtz 16-Aug-2000 23:38:09-GMT,15278;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07298 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:38:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13496 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:56:07 -0400 Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA13493 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:56:05 -0400 Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com ([135.104.2.10]) by dirty; Wed Aug 16 19:01:26 EDT 2000 Received: from postbox.div111.bell-labs.com ([135.3.80.8]) by scummy; Wed Aug 16 19:01:25 EDT 2000 Received: from mikeant by postbox.div111.bell-labs.com (8.9.3/TK011700) id TAA12208; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:01:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mike Andrews" To: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:01:55 -0400 Message-ID: <004301c007d5$f90ad8c0$87560387@mikeant.div111.bell-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C007B4.71F938C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C007B4.71F938C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi - i get some errors when trying to incorporate pdf documents generated directly by mathematica into a latex paper. any ideas? the log follows, and i include one of the offending pdf files too: thanks! mike p.s.: the dvi file generated with eps versions also has less space between the captions and figure - there's a whole bunch more space between the two in the pdf output. the pdf version's viewable, but the reader complains "an unrecognized token 'endstream' was found" i'm not on the mailing list, so please email me directly. thanks! [mikea@mikeaw1 corrnotes]$ pdflatex pdfpaper This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (pdfpaper.tex[/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, nohyphenation, loaded. 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[2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] (pdfpaper.bbl [9] [10])Error (0): PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xref table... LaTeX Warning: Float too large for page by 6.0821pt on input line 398. Error (0): PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xref table... Error (0): PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xref table... [11] [12 <./corr.pdfError (9541): Missing 'endstream' >] [13 <./maxcorr.pdfError (9999): Missing 'endstream' >] [14 <./maxcorrcont.pdfError: Missing 'endstream' >] (pdfpaper.aux) ) ) (see the transcript file for additional information) Output written on pdfpaper.pdf (14 pages, 197506 bytes). Transcript written on pdfpaper.log. Mike Andrews Bell Labs 3L-401 Lucent Technologies Murray Hill, NJ 07974 (908) 582-2274 office (908) 582-3260 fax ------------------------------------------- Please sign and encrypt your emails to me! 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(MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA13691 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:01:49 -0400 Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr (mathups.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.52.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13688 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:01:45 -0400 Received: from topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (topodyn.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.70]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id FAA09202 ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 05:07:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from lcs@localhost) by topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id FAA03389; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 05:07:37 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 05:07:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Laurent Siebenmann Message-Id: <200008170307.FAA03389@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> To: d.vandok@ecn.nl, lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, lesenko@mx.ihep.su, osoba@jablotron.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: strange .jpg problem Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dennis! > Error: pdflatex (file Aut_0005.jpg): reading JPEG image failed Nothing wrong when I put the jpg through dvipdf. There must be a buglet at your end somewhere. It's a neat image! Cheers Larry S 17-Aug-2000 8:38:08-GMT,3690;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA18235 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 02:38:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14258 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 02:54:43 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA14248 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 02:54:39 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id KAA27516 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:00:32 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200008170800.KAA19269@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id KAA19269; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:00:32 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:00:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: /Dur key ignored by acroread 4.05: Bug or feature? To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: M70NLjEC4gdWGRR4hB2j/Q== Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, this is not a pdftex question in narrow sense, but I got the impression there are acrobat beta testers reading this list ;-) I have the following problem: I'm trying to make some simple animations using the /Dur key (as documented in the PDF spec 1.3 and emitted by pdftex when using hyperref's pdfpageduration key); see http://lrb.cs.uni-dortmund.de/~lehmke/texpower/preview/bgndexample.pdf But the /Dur keys embedded in this pdf file are honuored only by some acroread/acrobat versions. I tried the following: acroread 4.0 for Sun/Solaris ok acroread 4.05 for Sun/Solaris no go acroexch 3.0 for Sun/Solaris ok acroread 4.05a for NT no go acroread 4.05c for NT no go acrobat 4.0 for NT ok acroread 4.05 for Linux no go acroread 4.05 for Mac bombs and desintegrates??!?[1] acrobat 4.0 for Mac ok [1] Reason may be elsewhere, but the owner of the Mac didn't care to try again after reinstalling. Producing the pdf file with LaTeX/dvips/distiller 3.0 or 4.0 and/or optimizing with acrobat 3.0 or 4.0 didn't make any difference. I also looked at all switches and command line options of acroread, to no avail. All I can do is set a duration for automatic advancing in a dialog, but then _all_ pages will be flipped through, still ignoring /Dur keys. As only acroread 4.05 seems to be concerned, three interpretations come to mind. a) It's a bug in acroread 4.05. b) The syntax specification for the /Dur key has changed. c) Adobe decided to drop the feature of respecting the /Dur key from acroread. In case a), is Adobe aware of this? If yes, is a correct version forthcoming? If no, what's the best way of convincing them to act on this? In case b), is the new syntax documented (so it could be incorporated into the hyperref package)? Case c) would be sad indeed, because where it works, the animations look really cool :-) In this case: is there an alternative pdf viewer with a full screen mode which will honour the /Dur key? Or is there any other way to make acroread exhibit the desired behaviour? regards and thanks in advance Stephan PS: A slightly adapted version of this message will go to comp.text.pdf. -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 17-Aug-2000 10:36:52-GMT,1997;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20252 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 04:36:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14429 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 04:53:01 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14426 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 04:52:59 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25124; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:58:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05870; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:58:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200008170958.LAA05870@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <004301c007d5$f90ad8c0$87560387@mikeant.div111.bell-labs.com> from Mike Andrews at "Aug 16, 0 07:01:55 pm" To: mikea@bell-labs.com (Mike Andrews) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:58:46 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > hi - i get some errors when trying to incorporate pdf documents generated > directly by mathematica into a latex paper. any ideas? the log follows, and > i include one of the offending pdf files too: thanks! mike > > p.s.: the dvi file generated with eps versions also has less space between > the captions and figure - there's a whole bunch more space between the two > in the pdf output. the pdf version's viewable, but the reader complains "an > unrecognized token 'endstream' was found" > > i'm not on the mailing list, so please email me directly. thanks! your pdf figure seems to be invalid: neither xpdf nor ghostscript accepts it. Thanh 17-Aug-2000 14:06:51-GMT,1415;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24063 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:06:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA14601 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:07:25 -0400 Received: from sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14598 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:07:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (oberdiek@localhost) by sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20058; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:13:12 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:13:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Heiko Oberdiek To: Han The Thanh cc: Mike Andrews , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <200008170958.LAA05870@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Han The Thanh wrote: > your pdf figure seems to be invalid: neither xpdf nor ghostscript accepts > it. Perhaps it gots coruppted by transfering it in ascii mode? (pdf files are binary files) Yours sincerely Heiko 17-Aug-2000 20:42:49-GMT,1524;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04123 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15117 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:01:32 -0400 Received: from techst02.technion.ac.il (mailer@techst02.technion.ac.il [132.68.7.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15114 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:01:30 -0400 Received: from puma.technion.ac.il (control04.technion.ac.il [132.68.55.82]) by techst02.technion.ac.il (Postfix) with ESMTP id F228114E46 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:07:19 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <399C4605.A697D5DC@puma.technion.ac.il> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:07:33 +0300 From: Alex Dubov Reply-To: oak@puma.technion.ac.il X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: \pdfannotlink error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I've recently upgraded my pdfTeX to version 0.14f to solve some problems with image colorspaces (I use teTeX 1.0 distribution as a base). The problem is that "\pdfannotlink" command became undefined (causing the hyperref to break down). I checked everything, but I still cannot figure why this was happened. I'll appreciate any help. Alex Dubov 17-Aug-2000 22:00:22-GMT,1349;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06012 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:00:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15268 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:21:39 -0400 Received: from bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.141]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15265 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:21:37 -0400 Received: from che.utexas.edu (fischer.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.45]) by bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA61266; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:25:34 -0500 Message-ID: <399C5874.BA881BE4@che.utexas.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:26:13 -0500 From: "Jeffrey J. Gray" Organization: Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Texas at Austin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/780) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: oak@puma.technion.ac.il CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: \pdfannotlink error References: <399C4605.A697D5DC@puma.technion.ac.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Alex: I had the same problem. It went away when I upgraded the hyperref package. Jeff 17-Aug-2000 22:34:05-GMT,1793;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06980 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:34:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15293 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:54:55 -0400 Received: from bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.141]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15290 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:54:54 -0400 Received: from che.utexas.edu (fischer.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.45]) by bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA65942 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:00:15 -0500 Message-ID: <399C6096.D1F2CBCD@che.utexas.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:00:54 -0500 From: "Jeffrey J. Gray" Organization: Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Texas at Austin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/780) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: compression changes? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I just upgraded to pdftex 14f (from 12h), and my pdf document that used to compile to 4.5MB now compiles to 30MB!! What's changed?? In pdftex.cfg, I have compress_level 9, and to be certain I put \pdfcompresslevel9 in the preamble and just after the begin{document} in my source file. Interestingly, if I gzip my pdf file, it compresses to 4.5MB--so I know there's plenty of room for compression. Compiled pdftex on SGI/IRIX6.5. Is there a special flag for compressing included graphics? I have many large figures. (I did use the compress option on epstopdf) Thanks for the help, Jeff 17-Aug-2000 22:47:57-GMT,1604;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07304 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:47:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15305 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:09:10 -0400 Received: from bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.141]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15301 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:09:08 -0400 Received: from che.utexas.edu (fischer.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.45]) by bullwinkle.che.utexas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA14080 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:14:29 -0500 Message-ID: <399C63EC.79E15DDD@che.utexas.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:15:08 -0500 From: "Jeffrey J. Gray" Organization: Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Texas at Austin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/780) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: compression changes? References: <399C6096.D1F2CBCD@che.utexas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk It's gotta be something with the images--in draft mode \newcommand{\psdraft}{\setkeys{Gin}{draft=true}} \psdraft the document compiles to 1MB. How do I make sure pdflatex is compressing my included graphics? Thanks again, Jeff PS-Anybody have a fix to make the overcite package compatible with backref? Both redefine various cite macros... 17-Aug-2000 23:35:18-GMT,1671;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08339 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:35:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15370 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:56:32 -0400 Received: from sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15367 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:56:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (oberdiek@localhost) by sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA02819; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 01:02:03 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 01:02:03 +0200 (MET DST) From: Heiko Oberdiek To: Alex Dubov cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: \pdfannotlink error In-Reply-To: <399C4605.A697D5DC@puma.technion.ac.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Alex Dubov wrote: > I've recently upgraded my pdfTeX to version 0.14f to solve some problems > with image colorspaces (I use teTeX 1.0 distribution as a base). The > problem is that "\pdfannotlink" command became undefined (causing the > hyperref to break down). With the new pdfTeX you should update hyperref: http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip and pdftex.def: CTAN:macros/pdftex/graphics/pdftex.def or: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Yours sincerely Heiko 18-Aug-2000 14:10:30-GMT,2156;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25080 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:10:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16571 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:23:21 -0400 Received: from steinitz.che.utexas.edu (steinitz.che.utexas.edu [128.83.162.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16568 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:23:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by steinitz.che.utexas.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA71168; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:29:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:29:21 -0500 From: "Jeffrey J. Gray" To: pdftex@tug.org cc: daly@linmpi.mpg.de Subject: Re: compression changes? In-Reply-To: <399C6096.D1F2CBCD@che.utexas.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to Patrick Daly for the answer: figures must now be compressed during the conversion from epstopdf, using gs v6. ____________________________________________ I had the problem of pdftex not compressing the graphics whereas earlier (I believe 12) did. I got an answer from (I believe Thanh) that is the way things are to be. The graphics are to be compressed beforehand. The earlier version of Ghostscript did not compress them, but the current version (6) does. I simply reproduced the graphics with the newer Ghostscript and got the small pdf files once more with the newer pdfTeX. Answer is, compression has been transferred from pdftex to Ghostscript. Patrick ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Patrick W. Daly Tel. [+49] 5556-979-279 Max-Planck-Institut fuer Aeronomie Fax. [+49] 5556-979-240 Max-Planck-Str. 2 D-37191 Katlenburg-Lindau Internet: daly@linmpi.mpg.de Germany ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Aug-2000 15:03:54-GMT,1631;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26307 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:03:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16628 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:23:46 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA16625 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:23:44 -0400 From: rhyo@gmx.net Received: (qmail 25098 invoked by uid 0); 18 Aug 2000 14:29:14 -0000 Received: from f-192-24.cvx.ipdial.viaginterkom.de (62.180.192.24) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 18 Aug 2000 14:29:14 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:30:51 +0200 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.38e) S/N DE1EFFBC / Educational X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17688.000818@gmx.net> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: /footnote in /section Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I converted a collection of articles organised as sections within a book-class document from LaTeX to PDFLaTeX. Originally I used the stblftnt.sty in order to add informations about the author and the date of the article using footnotes within the section command: \section[Title]{Title\\ \emph{Subtitle}\footnote{ Author and Date }} This does not work anylonger using PDFLaTeX. I was neither able to find informations about that specific problem on the internet nor able to fix it on my own. Has anyone on this list an idea how to solve this? Thanks to you in advance! 18-Aug-2000 17:09:25-GMT,1917;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29871 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:09:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16779 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:55:53 -0400 Received: from mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu (mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu [128.146.214.32]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16776 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:55:51 -0400 Received: from pviton (ts40-15.homenet.ohio-state.edu [140.254.115.86]) by mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA24260; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20000818120403.0099e7f0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: pviton@pop.service.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:04:03 -0300 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "Philip A. Viton" Subject: mathtime.sty Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone successfully using the mathtime package with pdftex? I've been trying to get this to work, but I can't seem to get the lowercase Greek glyphs to display. (Others seem OK). This happens whether I use the TrueType or the Type1 versions of the fonts, and this seems to mean that its not an encoding-vector problem, since the Type1 font has an encoding vector built in. On the other hand, if pdftex produces .dvi instead of .pdf, the resulting file displays correctly in the TrueTeX previewer (using TrueType fonts). I'm about out of ideas. Cany anyone suggest what might be happening? (pdftex 14e-released-20000217, running on winnt4, sp5). ------------------------ Philip A. Viton City Planning, Ohio State University 190 W. 17th Ave,Columbus OH 43210 viton.1@osu.edu 18-Aug-2000 17:17:45-GMT,1544;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00110 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:17:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16811 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:24:55 -0400 Received: from techst02.technion.ac.il (mailer@techst02.technion.ac.il [132.68.7.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16808 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:24:53 -0400 Received: from puma.technion.ac.il (techst02.technion.ac.il [132.68.7.4]) by techst02.technion.ac.il (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516D114D6A; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:30:44 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <399D64C6.30FEBF9E@puma.technion.ac.il> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:31:02 +0300 From: Alex Dubov Reply-To: oak@puma.technion.ac.il X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Hebrew help. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I would like to help you with the Hebrew part. I'm using pdfTeX for nearly a year now (before this I used ordinary LaTeX), and my qualification can be referred as a TeXnician (no experience with TeX internals, plenty with the TeX itself). My knowledge of Hebrew is sufficiently good (I'm living in Israel after all), so, please, tell me how I can help. Alex Dubov 18-Aug-2000 17:18:26-GMT,1505;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00123 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:18:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16796 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:14:55 -0400 Received: from techst02.technion.ac.il (mailer@techst02.technion.ac.il [132.68.7.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16793 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:14:53 -0400 Received: from puma.technion.ac.il (techst02.technion.ac.il [132.68.7.4]) by techst02.technion.ac.il (Postfix) with ESMTP id E004814DE3; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:20:41 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <399D626D.5A76AC02@puma.technion.ac.il> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:21:01 +0300 From: Alex Dubov Reply-To: oak@puma.technion.ac.il X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Himanshu Gohel , "Jeffrey J. Gray" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: \pdfannotlink error References: <399C4605.A697D5DC@puma.technion.ac.il> <399C5F01.3A19685D@csee.usf.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thank you, but I've already figured what is the problem (it seems there was an error in compilation of the new hyperref package, so it was not installed in the proper way). Alex Dubov 18-Aug-2000 19:07:46-GMT,1054;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03195 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:07:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA16895 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:54:19 -0400 Received: from marinos (customer-148-235-4-4.uninet.net.mx [148.235.4.4] (may be forged)) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16892; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:54:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200008181654.MAA16892@tug.org> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:48:30 -0400 From: "Jes=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=FAs?= Alberto Sandoval Galarza" To: "majordomo@tug.org" Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002433 Subject: unsuscribe pdftex Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.50 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am changing address will join later to my new one! unsuscribe pdftex 19-Aug-2000 8:49:12-GMT,1745;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA19949 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:49:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA17862 for pdftex-list; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:45:17 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com ([210.212.246.82]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17859 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:45:11 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA03318; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:30:50 +0530 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:24:12 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: rhyo@gmx.net cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: /footnote in /section In-Reply-To: <17688.000818@gmx.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 rhyo@gmx.net wrote: > I converted a collection of articles organised as sections within a > book-class document from LaTeX to PDFLaTeX. Originally I used the > stblftnt.sty in order to add informations about the author and the > date of the article using footnotes within the section command: > > \section[Title]{Title\\ > \emph{Subtitle}\footnote{ > Author and Date > }} This works well, I have sent separately an example pdf to you. > This does not work anylonger using PDFLaTeX. I was neither able to > find informations about that specific problem on the internet nor able > to fix it on my own. I cant replicate the problem. -- Radhakrishnan 19-Aug-2000 8:57:23-GMT,1596;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA20055 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:57:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA17873 for pdftex-list; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:53:59 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.82]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17870 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:53:54 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA04004; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:29:39 +0530 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:23:02 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: "Robert D. Freeman" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Robert D. Freeman wrote: RDF> I have downloaded and read the pdfTeX FAQ, and am very much interested. RDF> One crucial question unanswered by the FAQ is: For what systems/OSs RDF> is pdfTeX available? Specifically, is it available for PowerMacs? Yes. the FAQ doesn't have an answer for this question. Could somebody out there tell me the platforms and the resources to get the pdfTeX binaries/sources, so that I can update the FAQ? Thanks in advance. -- Radhakrishnan 19-Aug-2000 10:11:56-GMT,1969;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21260 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:11:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18005 for pdftex-list; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:05:17 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.82]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18002 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:05:08 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA05815; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:43:26 +0530 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:36:49 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: "Philip A. Viton" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: mathtime.sty In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.20000818120403.0099e7f0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Philip A. Viton wrote: PAV> PAV> Is anyone successfully using the mathtime package with pdftex? I've been PAV> trying to get this to work, but I can't seem to get the lowercase Greek PAV> glyphs to display. (Others seem OK). This happens whether I use the PAV> TrueType or the Type1 versions of the fonts, and this seems to mean that PAV> its not an encoding-vector problem, since the Type1 font has an encoding PAV> vector built in. Yes, I have been using for the last one and half years. We generate pdf in our company with pdfTeX alone. So far, no font problems (especially with mathtime) have been found. Your problem could be your font maps used by pdfTeX. 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OTHERWISE PLEASE CALL OUR CUSTOMER SERCICE LINE. 21-Aug-2000 10:14:16-GMT,3091;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11170 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 04:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA21325 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 04:18:25 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21322 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 04:18:22 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.42]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id FZMY4402.BU8; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:24:04 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000821093534.016d64b0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:35:34 +0100 To: Stephan Lehmke From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: /Dur key ignored by acroread 4.05: Bug or feature? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200008170800.KAA19269@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:00 AM 8/17/00 +0200, Stephan Lehmke wrote: >Hi all, >I also looked at all switches and command line options of >acroread, to no avail. All I can do is set a duration >for automatic advancing in a dialog, but then _all_ pages >will be flipped through, still ignoring /Dur keys. > >As only acroread 4.05 seems to be concerned, three interpretations >come to mind. > >a) It's a bug in acroread 4.05. yes >b) The syntax specification for the /Dur key has changed. no >c) Adobe decided to drop the feature of respecting the /Dur > key from acroread. no since it is in the specs >In case a), is Adobe aware of this? If yes, is a correct version there are no bugs, only features, so expect a new feature soon >forthcoming? If no, what's the best way of convincing them to >act on this? i fear that the tex world is (has gone) out of their view (kind of stupid since it they are quite demanding users and good testers) >Case c) would be sad indeed, because where it works, the animations >look really cool :-) i used it recently at tug 2000 and it does work, but you need to set up full screen mode; there seems to be an interaction with the loop feature and it works on and off after you change those settings; here it failed first and then it worked again. >In this case: is there an alternative pdf viewer with a full screen >mode which will honour the /Dur key? Or is there any other way to >make acroread exhibit the desired behaviour? the non free viewer seems ok Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Aug-2000 13:17:21-GMT,2947;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14295 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:17:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA21542 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:22:29 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21539 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:22:27 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id OAA05970; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:28:41 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200008211228.OAA27319@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id OAA27319; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:28:41 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:28:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: /Dur key ignored by acroread 4.05: Bug or feature? To: pragma@wxs.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: djqZE6q/icyWd7de2Mtlsg== Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:35:34 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 10:00 AM 8/17/00 +0200, Stephan Lehmke wrote: > > >I also looked at all switches and command line options of > >acroread, to no avail. All I can do is set a duration > >for automatic advancing in a dialog, but then _all_ pages > >will be flipped through, still ignoring /Dur keys. > > > >As only acroread 4.05 seems to be concerned, three interpretations > >come to mind. > > > >a) It's a bug in acroread 4.05. > > yes Ah. So I'll have to wait till Adobe catches it. > >Case c) would be sad indeed, because where it works, the animations > >look really cool :-) > > i used it recently at tug 2000 and it does work, but you need to set up > full screen mode; there seems to be an interaction with the loop feature > and it works on and off after you change those settings; here it failed > first and then it worked again. Again, I tried all combinations of settings for full screen mode, no success for acroread 4.05/Solaris and acroread 4.05c/NT. Is this some kind of `cheat mode' where you have to hold ctrl/alt and then klick on the second `o' in "Loop"? > > >In this case: is there an alternative pdf viewer with a full screen > >mode which will honour the /Dur key? Or is there any other way to > >make acroread exhibit the desired behaviour? > > the non free viewer seems ok In version 4.05 as well (I only have access to v 4.0)? regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 21-Aug-2000 13:46:05-GMT,2566;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14885 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:45:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA21592 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:51:02 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21589 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:51:00 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.207]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAA39; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:56:43 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000821145148.016036d0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:51:48 +0200 To: Stephan Lehmke From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: /Dur key ignored by acroread 4.05: Bug or feature? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200008211228.OAA27319@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >Again, I tried all combinations of settings for full screen mode, >no success for acroread 4.05/Solaris and acroread 4.05c/NT. Is this >some kind of `cheat mode' where you have to hold ctrl/alt and then >klick on the second `o' in "Loop"? Fortunately I don't know these cheats since they would change with each versions (like the goto full screenmode did as well as many menu items). I must admit that I only got it working after numerous enables and disables and really closing the viewer after changing the settings, i.e. killing every trace of the application in memory. BTW, the dur key should go into each page object. The following presentation cycles ok in acrobat 4 but fails to cycle in acroread 4: http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/present/tug-2000/pre-pdf1.pdf [it's the intro presentation of the pdf session at tug 2000 using context presentation style number 22] Maybe at adobe they make their presentations in power point so that bugs like these go unnoticed -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Aug-2000 18:26:44-GMT,1832;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22473 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:26:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21937 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:41:19 -0400 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21934 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:41:16 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1a-123-187.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.15.187] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13Qvfq-0003AP-00; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:47:51 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13QvkU-0000Ar-00; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:52:38 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:52:38 -0700 From: John Lawless To: "Philip A. Viton" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: mathtime.sty Message-ID: <20000821105238.A576@redwoodscientific.com> References: <3.0.2.32.20000818120403.0099e7f0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.20000818120403.0099e7f0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 12:04:03PM -0300, Philip A. Viton wrote: > Is anyone successfully using the mathtime package with pdftex? I've been > trying to get this to work, but I can't seem to get the lowercase Greek > glyphs to display. I have been using pdftex and mathtime (type1) with Greek characters successfully. The one catch is that my xpdf won't display the Greeks. However, Adobe acrobat and ghostview do display them. I assume that this is an xpdf error. John 21-Aug-2000 21:39:50-GMT,1864;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27674 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:39:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22365 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:57:46 -0400 Received: from box.home.de (Isis164.urz.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.138.164]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22362 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:57:41 -0400 Received: (from jochen@localhost) by box.home.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01047; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:00:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <14753.39035.77202.511904@box.home.de> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:00:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Jochen Kuepper To: John Lawless Cc: "Philip A. Viton" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: mathtime.sty In-Reply-To: <20000821105238.A576@redwoodscientific.com> References: <3.0.2.32.20000818120403.0099e7f0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> <20000821105238.A576@redwoodscientific.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id PAA22363 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk John Lawless writes: > The one catch is that my xpdf won't display the Greeks. However, Adobe > acrobat and ghostview do display them. I assume that this is an xpdf error. Have you compiled xpdf against t1lib? Are other embedded fonts shown? Jave you submitted a bug report to Derek (xpdf author/maintainer) yet? Jochen -- http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll 21-Aug-2000 23:40:43-GMT,1833;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00921 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:40:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22630 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:04:16 -0400 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22627 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:04:14 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1b-137-137.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.6.137] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13R0iZ-0005Nd-00; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:10:59 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13Ptt0-0007gW-00; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:41:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:41:10 -0700 From: John Lawless To: "Philip A. Viton" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: mathtime.sty Message-ID: <20000818144110.A29489@redwoodscientific.com> References: <3.0.2.32.20000818120403.0099e7f0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.20000818120403.0099e7f0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 12:04:03PM -0300, Philip A. Viton wrote: > Is anyone successfully using the mathtime package with pdftex? I've been > trying to get this to work, but I can't seem to get the lowercase Greek > glyphs to display. I have been using pdftex and mathtime (type1) with Greek characters successfully. The one catch is that my xpdf won't display the Greeks. However, Adobe acrobat and ghostview do display them. I assume that this is an xpdf error. John 21-Aug-2000 23:40:59-GMT,1746;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00927 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22623 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:03:09 -0400 Received: from ferret.slip.net (www6.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.134]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22620 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:03:07 -0400 Received: from oak-hiper1b-137-137.dialup.slip.net ([209.209.6.137] helo=rsi ident=mail) by ferret.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13R0hV-0005IO-00; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:09:53 -0700 Received: from jll by rsi with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13R0m8-0000Xi-00; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:14:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:14:39 -0700 From: John Lawless To: Jochen Kuepper Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: mathtime.sty Message-ID: <20000821161439.A2086@redwoodscientific.com> References: <3.0.2.32.20000818120403.0099e7f0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> <20000821105238.A576@redwoodscientific.com> <14753.39035.77202.511904@box.home.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <14753.39035.77202.511904@box.home.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:00:43PM +0200, Jochen Kuepper wrote: > Have you compiled xpdf against t1lib? Are other embedded fonts shown? > Jave you submitted a bug report to Derek (xpdf author/maintainer) yet? I am using xpdf and t1lib from the Red Hat (v6.x) rpm. I will try compiling it myself before submitting a bug report to Derek. John 22-Aug-2000 6:18:54-GMT,1361;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA09289 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:18:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA23296 for pdftex-list; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:40:27 -0400 Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr (mathups.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.52.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23293 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:40:25 -0400 Received: from topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (topodyn.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.70]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id HAA19204 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 07:46:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from lcs@localhost) by topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id HAA11106; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 07:46:40 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 07:46:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: Laurent Siebenmann Message-Id: <200008220546.HAA11106@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> To: lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: the non free viewer Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans writes: > the non free viewer seems ok Could you list the non-free viewers please? I have not seen any product announcements -- unless you mean Acrobat Exchange!? Cheers Larry S. 22-Aug-2000 7:41:41-GMT,2053;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10957 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:41:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23386 for pdftex-list; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 02:01:06 -0400 Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23383 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 02:01:03 -0400 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD261A5; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:07:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:07:15 +0200 Message-ID: <50B56D407D2DD31191DE00902771E9F44B15C9@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "'Laurent Siebenmann'" Cc: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: *** solution of .jpg problem Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:07:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Laurent, thanks for your explainations. Unfortunately my problem is of a different nature, which I carelessly failed to mention. I'm hoping that one of the PDFTeX developers will pick it up. I am generating 'automated' pdf files from templates. Within a user interface, the user can pick images (JPEG) and write small pieces of text. My program creates a TeX input file from the lot and calls PDFTeX in the background to generate the PDF file. This works fine for many or most of the JPEGs I encountered so far, except for a number of 'funny' ones, such as the one I sent you. The fact that dvipdf can digest them strengthens me in the belief they are legit JPEG files. I'm afraid that using your method in a non-interactive fashion will be too cumbersome and error-prone... But again, thank you very much. Dennis van Dok 22-Aug-2000 10:45:40-GMT,2064;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14214 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:45:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA23599 for pdftex-list; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:14:02 -0400 Received: from mta1.tm.net.my (mta1.tm.net.my [202.188.0.145]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23596 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:13:48 -0400 Received: from www ([202.188.87.186]) by mta1.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <20000822091927.XBDJ19589@www> for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:19:27 +0800 Message-ID: <01d401c00c1a$b6ead460$2964a8c0@tm.net.my> From: "lilin" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:24:03 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D1_01C00C5D.C487CD60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01D1_01C00C5D.C487CD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i still blur bout PStill.. can u gimme some info bout that.. thanks ------=_NextPart_000_01D1_01C00C5D.C487CD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_01D1_01C00C5D.C487CD60-- 22-Aug-2000 10:56:39-GMT,2376;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA14382 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:56:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA23651 for pdftex-list; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:47:29 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23648 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:47:27 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.141]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id FZOU4P04.MKZ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:53:13 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000822114856.01a163b0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:48:56 +0200 To: Laurent Siebenmann From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: the non free viewer Cc: lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200008220546.HAA11106@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 07:46 AM 8/22/00 +0200, Laurent Siebenmann wrote: >> the non free viewer seems ok > >Could you list the non-free viewers please? >I have not seen any product announcements >-- unless you mean Acrobat Exchange!? Indeed I mean Acrobat formerly known as Acrobat Exchange. Long ago I took a look at the taiwanese viewer but it had too many bugs then and I've forgotten its name. There are a few more commercial viewers, like for windows ce (sloooooooooooooow) and the psion (ok, but no hyperlinks) and even one for the palm handheld but that one converts to some native format, actually using pdftotext from the xpdf suite. Here I always use WinDVI (indeed, dvi) or GS 6+ for testing since the graphics are far better and acrobat for final products (better outline fonts). Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Aug-2000 11:26:19-GMT,2132;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14956 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 05:26:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA23721 for pdftex-list; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 05:47:36 -0400 Received: from box.home.de (Isis104.urz.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.138.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA23718 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 05:47:33 -0400 Received: (from jochen@localhost) by box.home.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01200; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:33:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <14754.22240.123661.176515@box.home.de> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:33:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Jochen Kuepper To: John Lawless Cc: Jochen Kuepper , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: mathtime.sty In-Reply-To: <20000821161439.A2086@redwoodscientific.com> References: <3.0.2.32.20000818120403.0099e7f0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> <20000821105238.A576@redwoodscientific.com> <14753.39035.77202.511904@box.home.de> <20000821161439.A2086@redwoodscientific.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id FAA23719 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk John Lawless writes: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:00:43PM +0200, Jochen Kuepper wrote: > > Have you compiled xpdf against t1lib? Are other embedded fonts shown? > > Jave you submitted a bug report to Derek (xpdf author/maintainer) yet? > > I am using xpdf and t1lib from the Red Hat (v6.x) rpm. I will try > compiling it myself before submitting a bug report to Derek. I actually had problems with that as well. IIRC. You could simply try the binaries of xpdf-0.91 at CTAN, these work nicely for me. Jochen -- http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll 22-Aug-2000 15:18:03-GMT,1691;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19710 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:18:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24062 for pdftex-list; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:17:21 -0400 Received: from mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu (mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu [128.146.214.32]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24059 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:17:19 -0400 Received: from pviton (ts42-13.homenet.ohio-state.edu [140.254.115.116]) by mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA02369; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20000822102551.00999200@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: pviton@pop.service.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:25:51 -0300 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "Philip A. Viton" Subject: pdfex+hyperref+pifonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The pdftex config file (hpdftex.def) for the hyperref package loads pifont.sty. Unfortunately, I don't have the fonts referred to there, and since I'm using TrueTeX (TrueType fonts only) there's no possibility of making them via metafont. It's easy enough to have pdftex load a dummy version of pifont.sty, but I was wondering a. is there a cleaner way to avoid this package? b. what do I lose by giving it up? Thanks! ------------------------ Philip A. Viton City Planning, Ohio State University 190 W. 17th Ave,Columbus OH 43210 viton.1@osu.edu 22-Aug-2000 19:47:50-GMT,2070;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27322 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:47:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25007 for pdftex-list; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:58:48 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA25004 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:58:46 -0400 Received: from remote142-5.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.5] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13RJM4-0007fg-00; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:05:01 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000822202611.3e9f9eb4@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:26:11 +0200 To: "Philip A. Viton" , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: pdfex+hyperref+pifonts In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.20000822102551.00999200@pop.service.ohio-state.ed u> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:25 22.08.2000 -0300, Philip A. Viton wrote: > >The pdftex config file (hpdftex.def) for the hyperref package loads >pifont.sty. Unfortunately, I don't have the fonts referred to there, and >since I'm using TrueTeX (TrueType fonts only) there's no possibility of >making them via metafont. It's easy enough to have pdftex load a dummy >version of pifont.sty, but I was wondering > >a. is there a cleaner way to avoid this package? pifont.sty is part of psnfss, that belongs to the "required" bundles (graphics, babel, ...). So I think, your TeX system should at least provide a replacement: pifont is an interface to the Symbol and ZapfDingbats fonts, that should also be available in TrueType. >b. what do I lose by giving it up? hyperref uses it in its form support (\ding). Yours sincerely Heiko 23-Aug-2000 5:02:23-GMT,1812;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10224 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:02:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA25974 for pdftex-list; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:23:09 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.76]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25971 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:23:05 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05441; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:01:22 +0530 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:54:41 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: "Philip A. Viton" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfex+hyperref+pifonts In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.20000822102551.00999200@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Philip A. Viton wrote: PAV> The pdftex config file (hpdftex.def) for the hyperref package loads PAV> pifont.sty. Unfortunately, I don't have the fonts referred to there, and You must have it in your distribution, Zapf Dingbat font should be in your system. PAV> a. is there a cleaner way to avoid this package? create a dummy pifont.sty with a single line \relax or \endinput and replace the original pifont.sty with this. PAV> b. what do I lose by giving it up? You loose the form widgets. But if you are brave enough to hack the hpdftex.def with your replacement of ding characters, you loose nothing. -- Radhakrishnan 23-Aug-2000 9:12:17-GMT,1675;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14888 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 03:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA26505 for pdftex-list; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 03:23:47 -0400 Received: from picasso.vet-alfort.fr (picasso.vet-alfort.fr [62.161.66.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA26502 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 03:23:37 -0400 Received: from lorino ([62.161.67.189]) by picasso.vet-alfort.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA19710 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:34:05 +0100 (GMT+0100) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000823103232.00903c10@picasso.vet-alfort.fr> X-Sender: lorino@picasso.vet-alfort.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:32:32 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Tristan Lorino Subject: unsuscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id DAA26503 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk BOnjour, Comment se désinscrire de cette liste ? 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Please send a mail to majordomo@tug.org with a message in the body of the mail: unsubscribe pdftex lorino@vet-alfort.fr and dont spoil the list with your unsubscribe commands. Also take care to send a plain text mail. *Don't* send html mails, majordomo will not understand your request. -- Radhakrishnan 24-Aug-2000 10:09:09-GMT,2227;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA17966 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 04:09:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA29311 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 04:23:56 -0400 Received: from mail01.mahr.de ([195.211.88.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29308 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 04:23:53 -0400 Received: by mail01.mahr.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:30:17 +0200 Message-ID: <3FDF45ACE495D311BA8E005004384C150CD299@FS01-WAD> From: "Vollmer, Marc" To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Beginner: Any Warnings and a bad font output in Acrobat Reader Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:28:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I translate my Tex-File with PDFLatex and it bring my some warnings (see at the end). And the output in Acrobat Reader is very bad -- the fonts are blurred. Can someone write me what the failure is? Thanks and Bye Marc PS. Sorry for english. -- WARNINGS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Non-PDF special ignored!{pdftex.map Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbot8rn': too big val ue of SlantFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbt8rn': too big valu e of SlantFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcrot8rn': too big val ue of SlantFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcrt8rn': too big valu e of SlantFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlsbot8rn': too big val ue of SlantFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlsbt8rn': too big valu e of SlantFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlsrot8rn': too big val ue of SlantFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlsrt8rn': too big valu e of SlantFont (850) 24-Aug-2000 12:35:32-GMT,1888;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA20331 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 06:35:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA29517 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 06:51:30 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA29514 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 06:51:28 -0400 Received: from remote142-80.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.80] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13Rvdn-0003p0-00; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:57:52 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000824135233.0079b500@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:52:33 +0200 To: "Vollmer, Marc" , "'pdftex@tug.org'" From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: Beginner: Any Warnings and a bad font output in Acrobat Reader In-Reply-To: <3FDF45ACE495D311BA8E005004384C150CD299@FS01-WAD> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:28 24.08.00 +0200, Vollmer, Marc wrote: >I translate my Tex-File with PDFLatex and it bring my some warnings (see at >the end). Update or change "850" to "0.85" in your file "pdftex.map". >And the output in Acrobat Reader is very bad -- the fonts are blurred. You are using \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} with EC fonts? They are not available in Type1 and bitmap fonts look very poor at screen. Try \usepackage{ae} or \usepackage{zefonts}. They use T1 fontencoding but with CM fonts, that are available in Type 1. Yours sincerely Heiko 24-Aug-2000 20:47:00-GMT,2325;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03492 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:46:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30556 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:32:34 -0400 Received: from usc.edu (root@usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA30553 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:32:28 -0400 Received: from spock.usc.edu (root@spock.usc.edu [128.125.9.30]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id MAA28372 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from racer1 (racer1.usc.edu [128.125.9.34]) by spock.usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with SMTP id MAA21314 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:38:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Michaelian" To: Subject: Newbie having trouble getting pdftex to work Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:38:53 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi - I just installed pdftex from the MiKTeX latest distribution. Everytime I run the example file, I get the following: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) (preloaded format=plain 2000.8.24) 24 AUG 2000 12:34 **example (example.tex{pdftex.cfg} (E:\Program Files\texmf\tex\eplain\eplain.tex) (E:\Program Files\texmf\pdftex\plain\misc\pdfcolor.tex) ! Undefined control sequence. l.67 \pdfthreadhoffset =1em % thread margins ? ! Emergency stop. l.67 \pdfthreadhoffset =1em % thread margins End of file on the terminal! No pages of output. I think that it must not be reading (or finding?) some configuration file. Any advice as to how I should proceed? Thanks, Mark Michaelian Mark Michaelian USC Department of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering 854 W. 36th Place RRB101 Los Angeles, CA 90089-1191 (213) 740-5320 michaeli@spock.usc.edu 24-Aug-2000 22:09:37-GMT,1540;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05771 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:09:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA30669 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:52:08 -0400 Received: from tamaris.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-12.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA30666 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:52:06 -0400 Received: from andira.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.152) by tamaris.wanadoo.fr; 24 Aug 2000 22:53:32 +0200 Received: from [213.56.247.12] (213.56.247.12) by andira.wanadoo.fr; 24 Aug 2000 22:53:09 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michel.bovani@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:58:03 +0200 To: "Mark Michaelian" , From: Michel Bovani Subject: Re: Newbie having trouble getting pdftex to work Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:38 -0700 24/08/00, Mark Michaelian wrote: >! Undefined control sequence. >l.67 \pdfthreadhoffset > =1em % thread margins This primitive have been removed in pdftex 014 You have probably to update your sample file. -- --- Michel Bovani 25-Aug-2000 3:22:41-GMT,1532;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12988 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:22:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA31089 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:01:21 -0400 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA31086 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:01:19 -0400 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc12.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.202]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA00595; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:07:59 +0200 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07171; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:26:52 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:26:52 +0200 (MEST) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: "Vollmer, Marc" cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: Beginner: Any Warnings and a bad font output in Acrobat Reader In-Reply-To: <3FDF45ACE495D311BA8E005004384C150CD299@FS01-WAD> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Try \usepackage{pslatex}, which uses outline fonts. On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Vollmer, Marc wrote: > And the output in Acrobat Reader is very bad -- the fonts are blurred. 26-Aug-2000 17:29:19-GMT,2968;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04387 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:29:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01619 for pdftex-list; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 08:01:04 -0400 Received: from mlucom8.urz.uni-halle.de (mlucom8.urz.Uni-Halle.DE [141.48.10.118]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01616 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 08:01:02 -0400 Received: from [141.48.91.197] (actually zebul.theologie.Uni-Halle.DE) by mlucom8.urz.uni-halle.de with lsmtp with ESMTP; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 15:07:35 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: taqfk@mlucom6.urz.uni-halle.de Message-Id: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 15:07:37 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Thomas Neumann Subject: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear list members, some weeks ago, Pierre MacKay's package 'ibycus4' was published on CTAN (in /fonts/greek/ibygrk). It comes with 'IbycusHTG Polytonic Greek Regular', a translation of Silvio Levy's METAFONT Greek into Type1 outlines. If I use the font in a greek encoded LaTeX document with the psibycus.sty to compile it with pdftex, than the resulting PDF document is not be open correctly by Acrobat Reader (4.05, MacOS) but it causes no problems in Ghostview. From Acrobat Reader I get the error message (so in my english translation): "Can't extract the nested 'YAGPHD+IbycusHTG-Regular'. Probably some characters are not shown or printed correctly." Where the greek characters are located, Acrobat Reader shows only little black points. On the other hand, if I go the way latex - dvips - ps2pdf to create my pdf file, both, Acrobat Reader and Ghostview will accept the file, and it looks fine. Is there anyone who can help with this pdftex or Acrobat problem? To try it out, you can use the little greek example poem in the ibycus4 package. So you have nothing to know about the ancient greek language and encoding. Another topic is a known bug in the definition of the \greek command, resulting in some trouble if you are using T1 font encoding in your documents. Robin Fairbains has pointed out this in comp.text.tex. We have to redefine \greek: \renewcommand{\greek}{\fontencoding{OT1}\fontfamily{ibycus}\selectfont} The 'OT1' encoding is, as Pierre MacKay says, "a lie". But it seems, there is no 'T1' definition for ancient greek. Thomas Neumann -- Thomas Neumann Martin-Luther-Universitaet Halle-Wittenberg Tel/Fax: +49-(0)345-55-23062/-27239 Institut fuer Bibelwissenschaften http://anu.theologie.uni-halle.de Franckeplatz 1/Haus 25 mailto:neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de D-06099 Halle (Saale) 26-Aug-2000 19:01:52-GMT,7703;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06126 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:01:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01799 for pdftex-list; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:30:00 -0400 Received: from dravite.mint.net (dravite.mint.net [216.227.128.32]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01796 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:29:58 -0400 Received: from PINGA.YandY.com (northconway-ppp-111.landmarknet.net [63.75.118.116]) by dravite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07541; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:35:48 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000826133357.026bddb0@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:37:11 -0400 To: Thomas Neumann , pdftex@tug.org From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_4464089==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_4464089==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi: You may want to download the properly hinted redone version of Ibycus from http://www.yandy.com/download/ibycus.zip It uses proper glyph names and is set up properly as a "non-text" font. (The glyph names make the Greek letters accessible via Unicode in Unicode enabled OS and Unicode enabled applications also). It should, of course, NOT be reencoded. (One thing to look out for is that for sanity reason this font has a real space character, the zero-width thing is at char code 160, not 32 now). regards, Louis. At 15:07 2000-08-26 +0200, you wrote: >Dear list members, > >some weeks ago, Pierre MacKay's package 'ibycus4' was published on CTAN >(in /fonts/greek/ibygrk). It comes with 'IbycusHTG Polytonic Greek >Regular', a translation of Silvio Levy's METAFONT Greek into Type1 >outlines. If I use the font in a greek encoded LaTeX document with the >psibycus.sty to compile it with pdftex, than the resulting PDF document is >not be open correctly by Acrobat Reader (4.05, MacOS) but it causes no >problems in Ghostview. > > From Acrobat Reader I get the error message (so in my english translation): >"Can't extract the nested 'YAGPHD+IbycusHTG-Regular'. Probably some >characters are not shown or printed correctly." > >Where the greek characters are located, Acrobat Reader shows only little >black points. > >On the other hand, if I go the way latex - dvips - ps2pdf to create my pdf >file, both, Acrobat Reader and Ghostview will accept the file, and it >looks fine. > >Is there anyone who can help with this pdftex or Acrobat problem? > >To try it out, you can use the little greek example poem in the ibycus4 >package. So you have nothing to know about the ancient greek language and >encoding. > >Another topic is a known bug in the definition of the \greek command, >resulting in some trouble if you are using T1 font encoding in your >documents. Robin Fairbains has pointed out this in comp.text.tex. We have >to redefine \greek: > >\renewcommand{\greek}{\fontencoding{OT1}\fontfamily{ibycus}\selectfont} > >The 'OT1' encoding is, as Pierre MacKay says, "a lie". But it seems, there >is no 'T1' definition for ancient greek. >Thomas Neumann >-- >Thomas Neumann Martin-Luther-Universitaet Halle-Wittenberg >Tel/Fax: +49-(0)345-55-23062/-27239 Institut fuer Bibelwissenschaften >http://anu.theologie.uni-halle.de Franckeplatz 1/Haus 25 >mailto:neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de D-06099 Halle (Saale) -- Y&Y Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com/unique.htm (PG) --=====================_4464089==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi:

You may want to download the properly hinted redone version
of Ibycus from http://www.yandy.com/download/ibycus.zip

It uses proper glyph names and is set up properly as a "non-text" font.
(The glyph names make the Greek letters accessible via Unicode in
Unicode enabled OS and Unicode enabled applications also).
It should, of course, NOT be reencoded.

(One thing to look out for is that for sanity reason this font has a real
space character, the zero-width thing is at char code 160, not 32 now).

regards, Louis.

At 15:07 2000-08-26 +0200, you wrote:
Dear list members,

some weeks ago, Pierre MacKay's package 'ibycus4' was published on CTAN (in /fonts/greek/ibygrk). It comes with 'IbycusHTG Polytonic Greek Regular', a translation of Silvio Levy's METAFONT Greek into Type1 outlines. If I use the font in a greek encoded LaTeX document with the psibycus.sty to compile it with pdftex, than the resulting PDF document is not be open correctly by Acrobat Reader (4.05, MacOS) but it causes no problems in Ghostview.

From Acrobat Reader I get the error message (so in my english translation):
"Can't extract the nested 'YAGPHD+IbycusHTG-Regular'. Probably some characters are not shown or printed correctly."

Where the greek characters are located, Acrobat Reader shows only little black points.

On the other hand, if I go the way latex - dvips - ps2pdf to create my pdf file, both, Acrobat Reader and Ghostview will accept the file, and it looks fine.

Is there anyone who can help with this pdftex or Acrobat problem?

To try it out, you can use the little greek example poem in the ibycus4 package. So you have nothing to know about the ancient greek language and encoding.

Another topic is a known bug in the definition of the \greek command, resulting in some trouble if you are using T1 font encoding in your documents. Robin Fairbains has pointed out this in comp.text.tex. We have to redefine \greek:

\renewcommand{\greek}{\fontencoding{OT1}\fontfamily{ibycus}\selectfont}

The 'OT1' encoding is, as Pierre MacKay says, "a lie". But it seems, there is no 'T1' definition for ancient greek.


Thomas Neumann
--
Thomas Neumann           &nb= sp;   Martin-Luther-Universitaet Halle-Wittenberg
Tel/Fax: +49-(0)345-55-23062/-27239    Institut fuer Bibelwissenschaften
http://anu.theologie.uni-halle.de&nb= sp;            &= nbsp;  Franckeplatz 1/Haus 25
mailto:neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de &nb= sp;           D-06099 Halle (Saale)


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--=====================_4464089==_.ALT-- 26-Aug-2000 19:46:20-GMT,2952;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06890 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:46:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02205 for pdftex-list; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:17:28 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02202 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:17:27 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26337 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:24:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: pdftex list Subject: Re: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Which version of pdftex are you using? Earlier versions of pdftex had problems with font embedding/subsetting... Upgrading to the latest version ought to fix your problems. Tom On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Thomas Neumann wrote: > Dear list members, > > some weeks ago, Pierre MacKay's package 'ibycus4' was published on > CTAN (in /fonts/greek/ibygrk). It comes with 'IbycusHTG Polytonic > Greek Regular', a translation of Silvio Levy's METAFONT Greek into > Type1 outlines. If I use the font in a greek encoded LaTeX document > with the psibycus.sty to compile it with pdftex, than the resulting > PDF document is not be open correctly by Acrobat Reader (4.05, MacOS) > but it causes no problems in Ghostview. > > From Acrobat Reader I get the error message (so in my english translation): > "Can't extract the nested 'YAGPHD+IbycusHTG-Regular'. Probably some > characters are not shown or printed correctly." > > Where the greek characters are located, Acrobat Reader shows only > little black points. > > On the other hand, if I go the way latex - dvips - ps2pdf to create > my pdf file, both, Acrobat Reader and Ghostview will accept the file, > and it looks fine. > > Is there anyone who can help with this pdftex or Acrobat problem? > > To try it out, you can use the little greek example poem in the > ibycus4 package. So you have nothing to know about the ancient greek > language and encoding. > > Another topic is a known bug in the definition of the \greek command, > resulting in some trouble if you are using T1 font encoding in your > documents. Robin Fairbains has pointed out this in comp.text.tex. We > have to redefine \greek: > > \renewcommand{\greek}{\fontencoding{OT1}\fontfamily{ibycus}\selectfont} > > The 'OT1' encoding is, as Pierre MacKay says, "a lie". But it seems, > there is no 'T1' definition for ancient greek. > > Thomas Neumann > 27-Aug-2000 4:04:54-GMT,1961;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15614 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:04:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03041 for pdftex-list; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:45:57 -0400 Received: from mlucom8.urz.uni-halle.de (mlucom8.urz.Uni-Halle.DE [141.48.10.118]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03038 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:45:55 -0400 Received: from [141.48.91.197] (actually zebul.theologie.Uni-Halle.DE) by mlucom8.urz.uni-halle.de with lsmtp with ESMTP; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 04:52:27 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: taqfk@mlucom6.urz.uni-halle.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 04:52:28 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Thomas Neumann Subject: Re: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Tom Kacvinsky wrote: >Which version of pdftex are you using? Earlier versions of pdftex had >problems with font embedding/subsetting... Upgrading to the latest >version ought to fix your problems. Thanks for your hints: version 0.14f. This should be new enough. But the problem is solved by the properly upsetted IbycusHTG-Regular font, announced here by Louis. See my short report in parallel posting. Best regards, Thomas -- Thomas Neumann Martin-Luther-Universitaet Halle-Wittenberg Tel/Fax: +49-(0)345-55-23062/-27239 Institut fuer Bibelwissenschaften http://anu.theologie.uni-halle.de Franckeplatz 1/Haus 25 mailto:neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de D-06099 Halle (Saale) 27-Aug-2000 22:42:24-GMT,8628;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04859 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:42:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04263 for pdftex-list; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:40:47 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA04260 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:40:38 -0400 Received: from remote142-10.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.10] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13TAGk-0000fN-00; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:47:10 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000827231731.2427f128@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:17:31 +0200 To: David Carlisle , lehmke@jupiter.cs.uni-dortmund.de From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: pdftex & color.sty Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200004061320.OAA21242@nag.co.uk> References: <200004061256.OAA21760@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <200004061256.OAA21760@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 14:20 06.04.00 +0100, David Carlisle wrote: > >> which is not identical to the color the >> characters at the beginning of the slide should have. :-( > >If you have a class that allows automatic page breaking >(ie unlike slides class where page breaking is essentially manual) >then you can not get colours right over a page break (or after a >float environment) unless either the driver implements a `colour stack' >(as for example dvips but not pdftex) or you implement a multiple mark >scheme (either as tex macros, or using etex multiple primitive marks) >and then rewrite large sections of latexs output routine to handle >colour restore information by use of `color' marks. After the Dante meeting I have started to experiment with the eTeX method of a `colour' mark. One of the major problems is the understanding of the output routine and the need to rewrite it because of missing hooks. I have appended my very first try with some tests in onecolumn and twocolumn mode, but without considering floats. Limitations: * eTeX extensions are required. * LaTeX's output routine is redefinded. * Changes in the output routine of newer versions of LaTeX are not detected. * Packages that change the output routine are not supported. * I have only tested some variants of onecolumn/twocolumn, however no tests with floats/footnotes. For experiments I have put the code in a package file "pdfcolmk.sty": %%% cut %%% pdfcolmk.sty %%% cut %%% \NeedsTeXFormat{LaTeX2e}[1999/12/01] \ProvidesPackage{pdfcolmk}[2000/08/27 PDFtex COLor MarK (HO)] \typeout{*** CAUTION: EXPERIMENTAL ***} \typeout{This package `pdfcolmk' tries to add a color stack for} \typeout{pdfTeX based on a mark register of eTeX. It redefines} \typeout{LaTeX's output routine. Use with care, no warranties.} \typeout{*****************************} \@ifpackageloaded{color}{}{\RequirePackage[pdftex]{color}} \RequirePackage{etex}[1998/03/26] \newmarks\pec@marks \def\set@color{% \pdfliteral{\current@color}% \marks\pec@marks{\current@color}% \aftergroup\reset@color } \def\reset@color{% \pdfliteral{\current@color}% \marks\pec@marks{\current@color}% } \def\X@outputpage{% \begingroup % the \endgroup is put in by \aftergroup \let \protect \noexpand \@resetactivechars \@parboxrestore \shipout \vbox{% \expandafter\def\expandafter\current@color\expandafter{\topmarks\pec@marks}% \set@typeset@protect \aftergroup \endgroup \aftergroup \set@typeset@protect % correct? or just restore by ending % the group? \if@specialpage \global\@specialpagefalse\@nameuse{ps@\@specialstyle}% \fi \if@twoside \ifodd\count\z@ \let\@thehead\@oddhead \let\@thefoot\@oddfoot \let\@themargin\oddsidemargin \else \let\@thehead\@evenhead \let\@thefoot\@evenfoot \let\@themargin\evensidemargin \fi \fi \reset@font \normalsize \normalsfcodes \let\label\@gobble \let\index\@gobble \let\glossary\@gobble \baselineskip\z@skip \lineskip\z@skip \lineskiplimit\z@ \@begindvi \vskip \topmargin \moveright\@themargin \vbox {% \setbox\@tempboxa \vbox to\headheight{% \vfil \color@hbox \normalcolor \hb@xt@\textwidth{\@thehead}% \color@endbox }% %% 22 Feb 87 \dp\@tempboxa \z@ \box\@tempboxa \vskip \headsep \box\@outputbox \baselineskip \footskip \color@hbox \normalcolor \hb@xt@\textwidth{\@thefoot}% \color@endbox }% }% \global \@colht \textheight \stepcounter{page}% \let\firstmark\botmark } \let\pec@outputpage\@outputpage \def\pec@ScanOutputpage#1\begingroup#2\@nil{% \ifx\\#2\\% \PackageWarningNoLine{pdfetexdef}{% This \noexpand\@outputpage is not supported% }% \else \expandafter\pec@DefOutputpage\@outputpage\@nil \fi } \def\pec@DefOutputpage#1\begingroup#2\@nil{% \def\@outputpage{% #1% \begingroup \ifpec@left \let\current@color\pec@leftcolor \else \expandafter\def\expandafter\current@color\expandafter{% \topmarks\pec@marks }% \fi #2% }% } \expandafter\pec@ScanOutputpage\@outputpage\begingroup\@nil \def\pec@setcolor{% \expandafter\def\expandafter\current@color\expandafter{% \topmarks\pec@marks }% } \begingroup \toks@=\output \toks@=\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter{% \expandafter\@firstofone\the\toks@ }% \toks@=\expandafter{\expandafter\pec@setcolor\the\toks@} \expandafter \endgroup %\expandafter\output\expandafter{\the\toks@} \gdef \@makecol {% \ifvoid\footins \setbox\@outputbox \box\@cclv \else \setbox\@outputbox \vbox {% \boxmaxdepth \@maxdepth \@tempdima\dp\@cclv \unvbox \@cclv \vskip-\@tempdima \vskip \skip\footins \color@begingroup \normalcolor \footnoterule \unvbox \footins \color@endgroup }% \fi \xdef\@freelist{\@freelist\@midlist}% \global \let \@midlist \@empty \@combinefloats \ifvbox\@kludgeins \@makespecialcolbox \else \setbox\@outputbox \vbox to\@colht {% \@texttop \dimen@ \dp\@outputbox \unvbox \@outputbox \vskip -\dimen@ \@textbottom }% \fi \global \maxdepth \@maxdepth } \def\@outputdblcol{% \if@firstcolumn \global \@firstcolumnfalse \global \setbox\@leftcolumn \box\@outputbox \begingroup \pec@setcolor \expandafter\gdef\expandafter\pec@leftcolor\expandafter{\current@color}% \endgroup \else \global \@firstcolumntrue \setbox\@outputbox \vbox {% \pec@setcolor \hb@xt@\textwidth {% \hb@xt@\columnwidth {% \box\@leftcolumn \hss}% \hfil \vrule \@width\columnseprule \hfil \hb@xt@\columnwidth {% \box\@outputbox \hss}% }% }% \@combinedblfloats \pec@lefttrue \@outputpage \pec@leftfalse \begingroup \@dblfloatplacement \@startdblcolumn \@whilesw\if@fcolmade \fi {\@outputpage \@startdblcolumn}% \endgroup \fi } \newif\ifpec@left \endinput %%% cut %%% pdfcolmk.sty %%% cut %%% %%% cut %%% test.tex %%% \documentclass[twocolumn]{article} %\documentclass{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{color} \usepackage{pdfcolmk} \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} \setlength{\parskip}{5mm} \pagestyle{empty} \newcommand*{\rr}[1]{\mbox{\rule{5mm}{10mm} #1 \rule{5mm}{10mm}\par}} \begin{document} \rr{black} \begingroup \textcolor{red}{\rr{red} \newpage \rr{red}} \endgroup \rr{black} \newpage \rr{black} \begingroup \textcolor{blue}{\rr{blue} \newpage\hbox{}\newpage\rr{blue}} \endgroup \rr{black} \textcolor{yellow}{\rr{yellow} \newpage\rr{yellow} \textcolor{red}{\rr{red} \newpage\hbox{}\newpage\hbox{\textcolor{green}{\rr{green}}} \newpage\hbox{} \newpage \rr{red} } \rr{yellow} } \rr{black} \end{document} %%% cut %%% test.tex %%% Yours sincerely Heiko 27-Aug-2000 22:52:46-GMT,1465;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05057 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04284 for pdftex-list; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:52:01 -0400 Received: from postfix2.free.fr (postfix@postfix2.free.fr [212.27.32.74]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04281 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:52:00 -0400 Received: from ujf-grenoble.fr (grenoble-44-159.dial.proxad.net [213.228.44.159]) by postfix2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EAA74101; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:58:38 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <39A989F9.7741E79E@ujf-grenoble.fr> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:36:57 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [fr] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: fr,en,es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Oberdiek Cc: "Philip A. Viton" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfex+hyperref+pifonts References: <3.0.1.16.20000822202611.3e9f9eb4@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek a écrit : > >b. what do I lose by giving it up? > > hyperref uses it in its form support (\ding). yes, and only there, so pifont could be \Required only when that option is active? Th. 28-Aug-2000 0:12:42-GMT,1902;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06548 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:12:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04338 for pdftex-list; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:17:43 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA04335 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:17:41 -0400 Received: from remote142-131.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.131] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13TBmi-0001E3-00; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 01:24:17 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000828012147.43774192@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 01:21:47 +0200 To: Thierry Bouche From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: pdfex+hyperref+pifonts Cc: "Philip A. Viton" , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <39A989F9.7741E79E@ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <3.0.1.16.20000822202611.3e9f9eb4@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id SAA04336 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 23:36 27.08.2000 +0200, Thierry Bouche wrote: >Heiko Oberdiek a écrit : > >> >b. what do I lose by giving it up? >> >> hyperref uses it in its form support (\ding). > > >yes, and only there, so pifont could be \Required only when that option >is active? No, a package should be loaded before \begin{document}, not after or in a group. But at load time of hyperref, it is not known, whether the user will be use forms. Yours sincerely Heiko 28-Aug-2000 10:53:34-GMT,2316;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18530 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 04:53:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA05159 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 04:19:25 -0400 Received: from isy.liu.se (isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA05156 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 04:19:23 -0400 Received: from vaz.isy.liu.se (vaz.isy.liu.se [130.236.50.217]) by isy.liu.se (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e7S9Q1n01645 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:26:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (frisk@localhost) by vaz.isy.liu.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09902 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:26:01 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: vaz.isy.liu.se: frisk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:26:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Frisk To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Compiling from sources Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This may be a stupid question but I'll ask anyway. I have always upgraded from binaries, but this weekend I compiled pdftex from sources. The compilation went fine, but I wonder: In the binary distribution you get the following files (in e.g. pdftex-20000525-solaris.zip): pdfetex* pdfetex.pool pdftex* pdftex.pool pdftosrc* ttf2afm Make pdftex does not produce all these files (only pdftex and pdftex.pool as far as I can see). So, when compiling from sources, how do you go about producing all those files (assuming all need updating). /Erik --------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Frisk email: frisk@isy.liu.se Dept. of Electrical Engineering tel: +46 13 285714 Vehicular Systems fax: +46 13 282035 Linköping University S-581 83 Linköping SWEDEN www.vehicular.isy.liu.se/~frisk --------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Aug-2000 13:10:55-GMT,2585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20839 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 07:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA05366 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 07:28:14 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05363 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 07:28:11 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25173; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:34:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14012; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:34:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200008281234.OAA14012@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex In-Reply-To: from Thomas Neumann at "Aug 26, 0 03:07:37 pm" To: neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de (Thomas Neumann) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:34:44 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > some weeks ago, Pierre MacKay's package 'ibycus4' was published on > CTAN (in /fonts/greek/ibygrk). It comes with 'IbycusHTG Polytonic > Greek Regular', a translation of Silvio Levy's METAFONT Greek into > Type1 outlines. If I use the font in a greek encoded LaTeX document > with the psibycus.sty to compile it with pdftex, than the resulting > PDF document is not be open correctly by Acrobat Reader (4.05, MacOS) > but it causes no problems in Ghostview. > > From Acrobat Reader I get the error message (so in my english translation): > "Can't extract the nested 'YAGPHD+IbycusHTG-Regular'. Probably some > characters are not shown or printed correctly." > > Where the greek characters are located, Acrobat Reader shows only > little black points. > > On the other hand, if I go the way latex - dvips - ps2pdf to create > my pdf file, both, Acrobat Reader and Ghostview will accept the file, > and it looks fine. > > Is there anyone who can help with this pdftex or Acrobat problem? I had a look at it but couldn't find anything. The interesting thing is that gs/xpdf/acrobat reader 3.11 is happy with the file created by pdftex, but not acrobat reader 4.05 (linux i386). Regards, Thanh 28-Aug-2000 14:53:56-GMT,2611;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23585 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:53:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05540 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:08:57 -0400 Received: from artemis.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (artemis.rus.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.1.28]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05536 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:08:55 -0400 Received: from ref44pc1 ([129.69.159.39]) by artemis.rus.uni-stuttgart.de with SMTP id QAA18227 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:15:36 +0200 (MET DST) env-from (Ernst.Willand@PO.uni-stuttgart.de) Message-ID: <004201c010fa$82f5f740$142c040a@fmpamn.fmpa.de> Reply-To: "Ernst Willand" From: "Ernst Willand" To: "pdfTeX Mailing List" Subject: I have a pdftex-hyperref-dream Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:16:08 +0200 Organization: FMPA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello to all devellopers/testers of pdftex and hyperref ! Thank you for all the great work you did. I'm enjoying the programs as a user ervery day in adding a hyperref-index to a large book of about 1000 pages. Currently the index contains more than 10 000 hyperrefs to the books paragraphs and still everything works just fine. >From former TeX-times on Atari, Amiga, PC ... im used to the message: 'If you really need more ... ask a wizard to enlarge me' but still nothing like that happens. Great! But people always tend to want more .. you probably know ... more options more whistles and bells. And this is what I'm dreaming of: The book contains about 200 Sections each in a seperate LaTeX-file included by the \include command. The output of pdftex is a single 6MB pdf-file, too big to publish it in the Internet. It would be nice, if every included TeX-file would be written into a seperate pdf-output, so \include{section1.tex} will produce a file section1.pdf and a hyperref-link written in the main document or any of the section-files will load that file and jump to the refered position in that file .... Up to now I don't have a clue how this can be done in an easy way, but may be one of the experts can help me with a hint? 28-Aug-2000 21:47:54-GMT,4995;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06597 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:47:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06423 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:56:01 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06420 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:55:59 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12364 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:02:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: pdftex list Subject: Re: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000826133357.026bddb0@pop.tiac.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk In August of 1999, I offered to hint the font in FontLab. After doing so, I discussed the results with Pierre at TUG 1999. He said he would use my work as a starting point, because 1. FontLab removed his carefully constructed subroutines for contour construction, and 2. FontLab removed the flex hints/path constructions. I see that the font that Y&Y has made exhibits exactly the things that Pierre did not like. I am not speaking for Pierre on this matter, just making a note of what was done late last year... Now, on to the issue with font embedding problems: on the tex-fonts list, Werner Lemberg pointed out that certain fonts had problems with subsetting in dvips (which now uses Thanh's writet1 module). The error was finally tracked down to a problem with the encoding array ending with def instead of readonly def. Thanh fixed the problem for Werner. But the font on CTAN has readonly def at the end of the encoding array, so that isn't the issue. Looking at the code for writet1.c, I am beginning to suspect that the problem is with the flex hints and how writet1 handles the callothersubr operator. I'll look into this some more and let you know what I find. Tom On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Y&Y Support wrote: > Hi: > > You may want to download the properly hinted redone version > of Ibycus from http://www.yandy.com/download/ibycus.zip > > It uses proper glyph names and is set up properly as a "non-text" font. > (The glyph names make the Greek letters accessible via Unicode in > Unicode enabled OS and Unicode enabled applications also). > It should, of course, NOT be reencoded. > > (One thing to look out for is that for sanity reason this font has a real > space character, the zero-width thing is at char code 160, not 32 now). > > regards, Louis. > > At 15:07 2000-08-26 +0200, you wrote: > >Dear list members, > > > >some weeks ago, Pierre MacKay's package 'ibycus4' was published on CTAN > >(in /fonts/greek/ibygrk). It comes with 'IbycusHTG Polytonic Greek > >Regular', a translation of Silvio Levy's METAFONT Greek into Type1 > >outlines. If I use the font in a greek encoded LaTeX document with the > >psibycus.sty to compile it with pdftex, than the resulting PDF document is > >not be open correctly by Acrobat Reader (4.05, MacOS) but it causes no > >problems in Ghostview. > > > > From Acrobat Reader I get the error message (so in my english translation): > >"Can't extract the nested 'YAGPHD+IbycusHTG-Regular'. Probably some > >characters are not shown or printed correctly." > > > >Where the greek characters are located, Acrobat Reader shows only little > >black points. > > > >On the other hand, if I go the way latex - dvips - ps2pdf to create my pdf > >file, both, Acrobat Reader and Ghostview will accept the file, and it > >looks fine. > > > >Is there anyone who can help with this pdftex or Acrobat problem? > > > >To try it out, you can use the little greek example poem in the ibycus4 > >package. So you have nothing to know about the ancient greek language and > >encoding. > > > >Another topic is a known bug in the definition of the \greek command, > >resulting in some trouble if you are using T1 font encoding in your > >documents. Robin Fairbains has pointed out this in comp.text.tex. We have > >to redefine \greek: > > > >\renewcommand{\greek}{\fontencoding{OT1}\fontfamily{ibycus}\selectfont} > > > >The 'OT1' encoding is, as Pierre MacKay says, "a lie". But it seems, there > >is no 'T1' definition for ancient greek. > > > >Thomas Neumann > >-- > >Thomas Neumann Martin-Luther-Universitaet Halle-Wittenberg > >Tel/Fax: +49-(0)345-55-23062/-27239 Institut fuer Bibelwissenschaften > >http://anu.theologie.uni-halle.de Franckeplatz 1/Haus 25 > >mailto:neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de D-06099 Halle (Saale) > > > -- > Y&Y Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com/unique.htm (PG) > 28-Aug-2000 22:30:01-GMT,2439;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07739 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:29:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06467 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:35:27 -0400 Received: from box.home.de (Isis42.urz.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.138.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06464 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:35:23 -0400 Received: (from jochen@localhost) by box.home.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01556; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:41:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <14762.49256.143384.468947@box.home.de> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:41:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Jochen Kuepper To: Han The Thanh Cc: neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de (Thomas Neumann), pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex In-Reply-To: <200008281234.OAA14012@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <200008281234.OAA14012@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id QAA06465 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh writes: > > From Acrobat Reader I get the error message (so in my english translation): > > "Can't extract the nested 'YAGPHD+IbycusHTG-Regular'. Probably some > > characters are not shown or printed correctly." > > Where the greek characters are located, Acrobat Reader shows only > > little black points. > I had a look at it but couldn't find anything. The interesting thing is > that gs/xpdf/acrobat reader 3.11 is happy with the file created by pdftex, > but not acrobat reader 4.05 (linux i386). I have this kind of problem every so often when displaying PDF from Elsevier Journals (e.g. Chem. Phys. Lett.) with Acrobat 4.05 on Linux/x86 (Sorry, I don´t recall the specific fonts that it complains about, but the math is erroneous then). gv just shows them fine, and IIRC a OSF acrobat 4.05 running on Linux/AXP does so as well. It might be one more Acrobat problem? Jochen -- http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll 28-Aug-2000 22:37:36-GMT,2439;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07960 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:37:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06478 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:42:50 -0400 Received: from box.home.de (Isis42.urz.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.138.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06475 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:42:47 -0400 Received: (from jochen@localhost) by box.home.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01556; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:41:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <14762.49256.143384.468947@box.home.de> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:41:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Jochen Kuepper To: Han The Thanh Cc: neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de (Thomas Neumann), pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex In-Reply-To: <200008281234.OAA14012@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <200008281234.OAA14012@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id QAA06476 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh writes: > > From Acrobat Reader I get the error message (so in my english translation): > > "Can't extract the nested 'YAGPHD+IbycusHTG-Regular'. Probably some > > characters are not shown or printed correctly." > > Where the greek characters are located, Acrobat Reader shows only > > little black points. > I had a look at it but couldn't find anything. The interesting thing is > that gs/xpdf/acrobat reader 3.11 is happy with the file created by pdftex, > but not acrobat reader 4.05 (linux i386). I have this kind of problem every so often when displaying PDF from Elsevier Journals (e.g. Chem. Phys. Lett.) with Acrobat 4.05 on Linux/x86 (Sorry, I don´t recall the specific fonts that it complains about, but the math is erroneous then). gv just shows them fine, and IIRC a OSF acrobat 4.05 running on Linux/AXP does so as well. It might be one more Acrobat problem? Jochen -- http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll 29-Aug-2000 0:36:28-GMT,5945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11086 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:36:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06624 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:42:33 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06621 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:42:31 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16953 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:49:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: pdftex list Subject: SOLVED: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, You are not going to believe this, but the problem is the comments at the top of the font! Pierre has this: %!Fonttype1-1.1: IbycusHTG-Regular 001.002 I changed it to: %!PS-AdobeFont-1.0: IbycusHTG-Regular 001.002 And the problems went away!! It was not Thanh's code (sorry, Harry!) Also, the font as it was distributed off of CTAN has one line of 64 zeros missing from the end of the font. I added that in, but it should not matter... I guess I can always remove it and try again. I also wonder what would happen if I changed %!Fonttype1-1.1: to %!FontType1-1.1:" or even %!FontType1-1.0: (not the case change on the T in Type). Wonderously yours, Typehead Tom On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > In August of 1999, I offered to hint the font in FontLab. After doing > so, I discussed the results with Pierre at TUG 1999. He said he > would use my work as a starting point, because 1. FontLab removed his > carefully constructed subroutines for contour construction, and > 2. FontLab removed the flex hints/path constructions. > > I see that the font that Y&Y has made exhibits exactly the things that > Pierre did not like. I am not speaking for Pierre on this matter, > just making a note of what was done late last year... > > Now, on to the issue with font embedding problems: on the tex-fonts > list, Werner Lemberg pointed out that certain fonts had problems with > subsetting in dvips (which now uses Thanh's writet1 module). The > error was finally tracked down to a problem with the encoding array > ending with def instead of readonly def. Thanh fixed the problem for > Werner. But the font on CTAN has readonly def at the end of the > encoding array, so that isn't the issue. Looking at the code for > writet1.c, I am beginning to suspect that the problem is with the flex > hints and how writet1 handles the callothersubr operator. I'll look > into this some more and let you know what I find. > > Tom > > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Y&Y Support wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > You may want to download the properly hinted redone version > > of Ibycus from http://www.yandy.com/download/ibycus.zip > > > > It uses proper glyph names and is set up properly as a "non-text" font. > > (The glyph names make the Greek letters accessible via Unicode in > > Unicode enabled OS and Unicode enabled applications also). > > It should, of course, NOT be reencoded. > > > > (One thing to look out for is that for sanity reason this font has a real > > space character, the zero-width thing is at char code 160, not 32 now). > > > > regards, Louis. > > > > At 15:07 2000-08-26 +0200, you wrote: > > >Dear list members, > > > > > >some weeks ago, Pierre MacKay's package 'ibycus4' was published on CTAN > > >(in /fonts/greek/ibygrk). It comes with 'IbycusHTG Polytonic Greek > > >Regular', a translation of Silvio Levy's METAFONT Greek into Type1 > > >outlines. If I use the font in a greek encoded LaTeX document with the > > >psibycus.sty to compile it with pdftex, than the resulting PDF document is > > >not be open correctly by Acrobat Reader (4.05, MacOS) but it causes no > > >problems in Ghostview. > > > > > > From Acrobat Reader I get the error message (so in my english translation): > > >"Can't extract the nested 'YAGPHD+IbycusHTG-Regular'. Probably some > > >characters are not shown or printed correctly." > > > > > >Where the greek characters are located, Acrobat Reader shows only little > > >black points. > > > > > >On the other hand, if I go the way latex - dvips - ps2pdf to create my pdf > > >file, both, Acrobat Reader and Ghostview will accept the file, and it > > >looks fine. > > > > > >Is there anyone who can help with this pdftex or Acrobat problem? > > > > > >To try it out, you can use the little greek example poem in the ibycus4 > > >package. So you have nothing to know about the ancient greek language and > > >encoding. > > > > > >Another topic is a known bug in the definition of the \greek command, > > >resulting in some trouble if you are using T1 font encoding in your > > >documents. Robin Fairbains has pointed out this in comp.text.tex. We have > > >to redefine \greek: > > > > > >\renewcommand{\greek}{\fontencoding{OT1}\fontfamily{ibycus}\selectfont} > > > > > >The 'OT1' encoding is, as Pierre MacKay says, "a lie". But it seems, there > > >is no 'T1' definition for ancient greek. > > > > > > >Thomas Neumann > > >-- > > >Thomas Neumann Martin-Luther-Universitaet Halle-Wittenberg > > >Tel/Fax: +49-(0)345-55-23062/-27239 Institut fuer Bibelwissenschaften > > >http://anu.theologie.uni-halle.de Franckeplatz 1/Haus 25 > > >mailto:neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de D-06099 Halle (Saale) > > > > > > -- > > Y&Y Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com/unique.htm (PG) > > > > 29-Aug-2000 1:17:15-GMT,2191;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11914 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:17:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06651 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:25:34 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06648 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:25:33 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17984 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: pdftex list Subject: Re: SOLVED: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all (again), > > Also, the font as it was distributed off of CTAN has one line of 64 > zeros missing from the end of the font. I added that in, but it > should not matter... I guess I can always remove it and try again. > And so I did. It works just fine. Though I don't recommend it. The reason being is that some old implementations of eexec read data in 512 byte chunks, and the 512 zeros at the end of a font guarantee that there is enough data for the eexec operator to consume. One can set /Length3 to 0 in the FontFile object and leave the 512 zeros and cleartomark out of the embedded PFB and then Acrobat will add the missing zeros and cleartomark back in after converting to PS. This does work; Reader will display PDF files that have fonts embedded in such a fashion. I have to double check on the PS generation part. This probably would not work with FontoGrapher generated fonts, with the {restore}if "crud" at the end... > I also wonder what would happen if I changed > > %!Fonttype1-1.1: > > to > %!FontType1-1.1:" > This worked. I'll let Pierre know. Tom 29-Aug-2000 8:35:19-GMT,3192;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21003 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 02:35:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA07269 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 02:40:09 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07266 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 02:40:06 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26056; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:46:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22532; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:46:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200008290746.JAA22532@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: SOLVED: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex In-Reply-To: from Tom Kacvinsky at "Aug 28, 0 07:49:14 pm" To: tjk@ams.org (Tom Kacvinsky) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:46:43 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > Now, on to the issue with font embedding problems: on the tex-fonts > > list, Werner Lemberg pointed out that certain fonts had problems with > > subsetting in dvips (which now uses Thanh's writet1 module). The > > error was finally tracked down to a problem with the encoding array > > ending with def instead of readonly def. Thanh fixed the problem for > > Werner. But the font on CTAN has readonly def at the end of the > > encoding array, so that isn't the issue. Looking at the code for > > writet1.c, I am beginning to suspect that the problem is with the flex > > hints and how writet1 handles the callothersubr operator. I'll look > > into this some more and let you know what I find. the problem with encoding vector ended with `def' instead of `readonly def' has been known for about a while after pdftex0.14f was released (thanks to Thierry for the bug report. I fixed it then, but as I am quite busy now, I didn't want to release a new version yet. > You are not going to believe this, but the problem is the comments at > the top of the font! > > Pierre has this: > > %!Fonttype1-1.1: IbycusHTG-Regular 001.002 > > I changed it to: > > %!PS-AdobeFont-1.0: IbycusHTG-Regular 001.002 > > And the problems went away!! It was not Thanh's code (sorry, Harry!) > zeros missing from the end of the font. I added that in, but it > should not matter... I guess I can always remove it and try again. I noticed that the header is somewhat different from what one would expect; but I don't think it's the only reason. Berthold told me that it has several things wrong. I am not familiar enough with type1 spec to say which things are wrong. But the fact is that when converting the font to ps and distill, AR is happy with it, even the header was not changed at all. Regards, Thanh 29-Aug-2000 9:44:17-GMT,2015;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA22203 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 03:44:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA07317 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 03:42:00 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.uta.fi (IDENT:root@mail.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.25]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07314 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 03:41:57 -0400 Received: from cs.uta.fi (IDENT:av@siwenna.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.52]) by mail.cs.uta.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA09908 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:48:54 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <39AB78E8.713AA7BA@cs.uta.fi> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:48:40 +0300 From: "Arto V. Viitanen" Organization: University of Tampere, Dept. of CS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test7 i686) X-Accept-Language: fi, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: How to set the pdf-file name? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I made a new class, that lets me to generate either paperversion or slideversion from the same document. If I give option [paper], I get the paperversion (i.e. size is set to A4 etc.) and with option [slide] I get the slideversion (using the pdfslide style). It also sets a \boolean{slide}, so that I can resize the pictures right. Like I said, the class works fine. But, since I need two versions, when I run the document thru pdflatex, I have to rename the generated pdf-file to either document-paper.pdf or document-slide.pdf. Is there any way to rename the generated .pdf file from the classfile? I guess I also have to rename the .aux file (to get the references right) etc. -- Arto V. Viitanen av@cs.uta.fi University of Tampere, Department of Computer and Information Sciences Tampere, Finland http://www.cs.uta.fi/~av/ 29-Aug-2000 11:38:05-GMT,1691;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24287 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 05:38:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA07431 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 05:38:27 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.91]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07428 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 05:38:19 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA14765; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:14:56 +0530 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:08:11 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: "Arto V. Viitanen" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to set the pdf-file name? In-Reply-To: <39AB78E8.713AA7BA@cs.uta.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Arto V. Viitanen wrote: AVV> Like I said, the class works fine. But, since I need two versions, AVV> when I run the document thru pdflatex, I have to rename the generated AVV> pdf-file to either document-paper.pdf or document-slide.pdf. Is there AVV> any way to rename the generated .pdf file from the classfile? I guess AVV> I also have to rename the .aux file (to get the references right) etc. You can use a shell script or the make (it is available in Win32 too as GNU tools) to accomplish the job as you need. It is trivial. -- Radhakrishnan 29-Aug-2000 13:23:30-GMT,3004;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26219 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:23:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA07554 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:27:47 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.uta.fi (IDENT:root@mail.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.25]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07551 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:27:42 -0400 Received: from cs.uta.fi (IDENT:av@siwenna.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.52]) by mail.cs.uta.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA12532; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:34:34 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <39ABADCD.2B58C326@cs.uta.fi> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:34:21 +0300 From: "Arto V. Viitanen" Organization: University of Tampere, Dept. of CS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test7 i686) X-Accept-Language: fi, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Radhakrishnan C V , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to set the pdf-file name? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Radhakrishnan C V wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Arto V. Viitanen wrote: > > AVV> Like I said, the class works fine. But, since I need two versions, > AVV> when I run the document thru pdflatex, I have to rename the generated > AVV> pdf-file to either document-paper.pdf or document-slide.pdf. Is there > AVV> any way to rename the generated .pdf file from the classfile? I guess > AVV> I also have to rename the .aux file (to get the references right) etc. > > You can use a shell script or the make (it is available in Win32 too as > GNU tools) to accomplish the job as you need. It is trivial. > Ok. It might be trivial to you, but it took some time for me: #!/usr/bin/perl $filename=@ARGV[0]; if (rindex($filename, '.tex')==-1) { $filename = $filename . '.tex'; } open(TEX, "<$filename") || die "Cannot open $filename: $!"; $style="none"; while () { if (/\\documentclass\[(\S+)\]\{kalvot\}/) { $style = $1; close(TEX); last; } } if ($style eq "none") { die "$filename: Not a slide show.\n"; } $newname=$filename; $place=rindex($newname, '.tex'); substr($newname, $place)='-' . $style; $newname=$newname . '.tex'; printf("%s\n", $newname); link $filename, $newname; @arglist=("pdflatex", $newname); system @arglist; unlink $newname; The script makes a link (I use teTeX on Linux) of the file with name that represents the documenttype. For example, file er.tex will be linked to er-paper.tex, if the style option is paper. Then, the document is fead to pdflatex, which will generate er-paper.pdf. Finally, the link is removed. -- Arto V. Viitanen av@cs.uta.fi University of Tampere, Department of Computer and Information Sciences Tampere, Finland http://www.cs.uta.fi/~av/ 29-Aug-2000 14:10:56-GMT,3340;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27324 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA07628 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:16:49 -0400 Received: from mail.SerNet.DE (exim@mail.SerNet.DE [193.159.217.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07625 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:16:47 -0400 Received: from intern.SerNet.DE by mail.SerNet.DE with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) for pdftex@tug.org id 13TlMS-0006qG-00; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:23:32 +0200 Received: by intern.SerNet.DE id 13TlMS-0006zK-00; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:23:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:23:32 +0200 From: Kevin Ivory Organization: Service Network GmbH X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: hyperref for local files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Here is one of my mails (from 07/13/00 17:57) that got lost in the PDF-TeX list (German expression: Sommerloch). In the meantime, I came to the conclusion that this may be a Acrobat reader bug (I use acroread 4.05 for Linux), but since none of my other PDF viewers (gs, xpdf) shows colored hyperlinks, I cannot really tell. Original message: I am not aware of a hyperref mailing list and all the competence seems to be reading and discussing here... I am trying to get pdflatex and hyperref (and url) to work with local files. url colors/boxes the links nicely but gives a "Cannot follow this relative link" Acrobat-error-box. My own newcommand file which uses \href works perfect but only if there is a '.' in the file name. Many unix files I might need to reference do not have a '.' in the filename, though. The error message Acrobat reader gives in this case is "There was an error opening this document. No such file or directory". The error must be introduced already when pdflatex-ing the file, since the colors/boxes are different for both. Here is a short example file that show what I am trying to explain. \documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article} \usepackage{hyperref} \newcommand{\file}[1]{\href{#1}{\texttt{#1}}} \begin{document} \url{/etc/fstab}\\ \url{/etc/rc.config}\\ \url{/etc/DIR_COLORS}\\ \file{/etc/mtab}\\ \file{/etc/passwd}\\ \file{/etc/group}\\ %\file{/etc/DIR_COLORS}\\ \file{/etc/motd}\\ \file{/etc/ld.so.conf}\\ \file{/etc/mailcap}\\ \file{/etc/mime.types}\\ \file{/etc/modules.conf}\\ \file{/etc/profile}\\ \file{/etc/shells}\\ \file{/etc/shadow}\\ \file{/etc/gshadow}\\ \file{/etc/ld.so.cache}\\ \file{/etc/hosts.allow}\\ \file{/etc/hosts.deny}\\ \file{/etc/hosts.equiv}\\ \file{/etc/hosts.lpd}\\ \file{/etc/inetd.conf}\\ \file{/etc/networks}\\ \file{/etc/protocols}\\ \file{/etc/services}\\ \file{/etc/identd.conf} \end{document} %%% Local Variables: %%% mode: latex %%% TeX-master: t %%% End: -- _ | Kevin Ivory | Tel: +49-551-37000041 |_ |\ | | Service Network GmbH | Fax: +49-551-3700009 ._|ER | \|ET | Bahnhofsallee 1b | mailto:Ivory@SerNet.de Service Network | D-37081 Goettingen | http://www.SerNet.de/ 29-Aug-2000 14:12:00-GMT,1662;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27376 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:11:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA07621 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:15:59 -0400 Received: from iota.onepine.com (root@iota.onepine.com [208.13.42.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07618 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:15:58 -0400 Received: from gregorybittar.com ([208.1.92.106]) by iota.onepine.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA05950 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39ABB9BF.1D9F49A7@gregorybittar.com> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:25:19 -0400 From: Greg X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Compliments; and How to get a PDF icon? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to the wonderful work of everyone contributing code for pdfLaTeX, I am creating TeX documents programmatically from Java and compiling them into PDFs for distribution. Thank you all muchos grandos. One day, I hope to give back to this GNU community which has given me so much. My distributed PDFs are not shipping with the PDF icon. When I double-clink on my generated PDFs in Windows or the Mac, it isn't opening up Adobe Reader. Is there any knowledge out there about this? 29-Aug-2000 15:04:26-GMT,4305;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28833 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:04:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07687 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:07:39 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.91]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07684 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:07:32 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA22544; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:46:25 +0530 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:39:39 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: "Arto V. Viitanen" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to set the pdf-file name? In-Reply-To: <39ABADCD.2B58C326@cs.uta.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Arto V. Viitanen wrote: AVV> Ok. It might be trivial to you, but it took some time for me: AVV> AVV> #!/usr/bin/perl AVV> $filename=@ARGV[0]; AVV> if (rindex($filename, '.tex')==-1) { AVV> $filename = $filename . '.tex'; AVV> } [...] This is more majestic than my Makefile which is given below: I used to do different outputs like screen pdf, normal pdf, dvi, xml, xml with mathml, etc. from a single source making use of `make'. A tweaked specimen is given below: # # Makefile for compiling all files with single command # assuming you have two TeX files namely vector.tex # and project.tex # all: paperpdf screenpdf paperpdf: vectorpaper projectpaper screenpdf: vectorscreen projectscreen vector: vectorpaper vectorscreen project: projectpaper projectscreen vectorpaper: -rm -f *.aux *.toc *.log -cp -f vector.tex vector-paper.tex pdflatex '\def\Status{1}\input path/vector-paper' pdflatex '\def\Status{1}\input path/vector-paper' pdflatex '\def\Status{1}\input path/vector-paper' -rm vector-paper.tex projectpaper: -rm -f *.aux *.toc *.log -cp project.tex project-paper.tex -pdflatex '\def\Status{1}\input path/project-paper' -pdflatex '\def\Status{1}\input path/project-paper' -pdflatex '\def\Status{1}\input path/project-paper' -rm -f project-paper.tex vectorscreen -rm -f *.aux *.toc *.log -cp -f vector.tex vector-screen.tex pdflatex '\def\Status{2}\input path/vector-screen' pdflatex '\def\Status{2}\input path/vector-screen' pdflatex '\def\Status{2}\input path/vector-screen' -rm -f vector-screen.tex projectscreen -rm -f *.aux *.toc *.log -cp -f project.tex project-screen.tex pdflatex '\def\Status{2}\input path/project-screen' pdflatex '\def\Status{2}\input path/project-screen' pdflatex '\def\Status{2}\input path/project-screen' -rm -f project-screen.tex clean: -rm -f *.aux *.log *.blg *.out realclean: clean -rm -f *.pdf *.dvi -rm -f *.bbl -rm -f *.html *.htm *.css *.gif *.xml *.mml % % status.tex --------------------- % \ifcase\Status \message{Set up for normal dvi} \documentclass[options]{class} % % put here whatever is needed for dvi output % \or% 1 \message{Set up for print PDF} \documentclass[options]{class} % package loading and macros here % % % \or% 2 \message{Set up for screen PDF} \documentclass[options]{class} % put here whatever is needed for print version PDF % % \fi % specimen input file -------------- \input status % put common options here \begin{document} ... ... ... \end{document} make all will generate all the output for all files, whereas make paperpdf will get you all the print version pdf's and make screenpdf will generate the screen versions of all tex files. make vector will get you the pdf output of vector alone. Arto, do you think this is good for your purpose? Here, not only that you can compile all your files, but also you can have different output of all files (or at your will a single file alone or a combination of files) with a single command. I too relish using Linux and my sole operating system for five years now. -- Radhakrishnan 29-Aug-2000 15:25:26-GMT,2320;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29410 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:25:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07753 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:31:19 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07750 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:31:17 -0400 Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.28.154]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id QAA16184; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:38:02 +0200 (MES) Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (localhost.cs.Uni-Dortmund.DE [127.0.0.1]) by peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3+3.2W/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA02625; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:38:02 +0200 Message-Id: <200008291438.QAA02625@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> X-Authentication-Warning: peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de: Host localhost.cs.Uni-Dortmund.DE [127.0.0.1] claimed to be peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: "Arto V. Viitanen" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to set the pdf-file name? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:34:21 +0300." <39ABADCD.2B58C326@cs.uta.fi> References: <39ABADCD.2B58C326@cs.uta.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:38:02 +0200 From: Karsten Tinnefeld Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Ok. It might be trivial to you, but it took some time for me: Hmm, I would just have written the source file to one directory, then symlinked it to two directories ../paper and ../slide and in one of them `touch`ed a flag file, like 'do-slides'. Then just say \IfFileExists{do-slides}{% % slide specific staff }{% % paper specific staff } in your document. -- Karsten Tinnefeld tinnefeld@ls2.cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, Lehrstuhl 2 T +49 231 755-4737 Universität Dortmund, D-44221 Dortmund, Deutschland F +49 231 755-2047 29-Aug-2000 15:25:53-GMT,960;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29431 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:25:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07737 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:29:07 -0400 Received: from marinos (customer-148-235-4-4.uninet.net.mx [148.235.4.4] (may be forged)) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07734 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:28:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200008291328.JAA07734@tug.org> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:25:04 -0400 From: "Jes=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=FAs?= Alberto Sandoval Galarza" To: pdftex@tug.org X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002433 Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.50 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk unsuscribe pdftex 29-Aug-2000 15:30:42-GMT,2590;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29581 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:30:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07746 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:30:16 -0400 Received: from postfix1.free.fr (postfix@postfix1.free.fr [212.27.32.21]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07743 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:30:10 -0400 Received: from ujf-grenoble.fr (grenoble-44-193.dial.proxad.net [213.228.44.193]) by postfix1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED1128107; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:36:47 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <39ABCAE0.EFF60C68@ujf-grenoble.fr> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:38:24 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [fr] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: fr,en,es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jochen Kuepper Cc: Han The Thanh , Thomas Neumann , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Using greek IbycusHTG-Regular.pfa with pdftex References: <200008281234.OAA14012@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <14762.49256.143384.468947@box.home.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jochen Kuepper a écrit : > > Han The Thanh writes: > > > > From Acrobat Reader I get the error message (so in my english translation): > > > "Can't extract the nested 'YAGPHD+IbycusHTG-Regular'. Probably some > > > characters are not shown or printed correctly." > > > > Where the greek characters are located, Acrobat Reader shows only > > > little black points. > > > I had a look at it but couldn't find anything. The interesting thing is > > that gs/xpdf/acrobat reader 3.11 is happy with the file created by pdftex, > > but not acrobat reader 4.05 (linux i386). > > I have this kind of problem every so often when displaying PDF from > Elsevier Journals (e.g. Chem. Phys. Lett.) with Acrobat 4.05 on > Linux/x86 (Sorry, I don´t recall the specific fonts that it complains > about, but the math is erroneous then). gv just shows them fine, and > IIRC a OSF acrobat 4.05 running on Linux/AXP does so as well. > It might be one more Acrobat problem? The unix acrobat has this funny peculiarity when you set the locale to something different from "C". Adding an "unset LC_CTYPE ; unset LANG" to the acroread script (under solaris) made those files work as a charm... Th. 29-Aug-2000 15:52:47-GMT,2014;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00399 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:52:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07802 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:58:18 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.91]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07799 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:58:12 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (cvr@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA23755; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:36:54 +0530 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:30:08 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Greg cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Compliments; and How to get a PDF icon? In-Reply-To: <39ABB9BF.1D9F49A7@gregorybittar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Greg wrote: G> Thanks to the wonderful work of everyone contributing code for G> pdfLaTeX, I am creating TeX documents programmatically from Java and G> compiling them into PDFs for distribution. Thank you all muchos G> grandos. One day, I hope to give back to this GNU community which has G> given me so much. G> We have an open software here in India, a inventory control system for book publishing/distributing/reselling industry written in Java, PostgreSQL as the database and Linux as the preferred operating system. A wide variety of reports from this software is generated as LaTeX code and compiled in background by pdfLaTeX and launched through Acrobat Reader. We have not so far experienced any problems with Acrobat in other OSs. Works well without any bugs for the past one and half years in many sites in Kerala, India. -- Radhakrishnan 29-Aug-2000 17:22:37-GMT,2248;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03316 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:22:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08001 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:28:09 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07998 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:28:03 -0400 Received: from max151.public.ox.ac.uk (max151.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.151]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA29126; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:34:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:33:38 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Greg cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Compliments; and How to get a PDF icon? In-Reply-To: <39ABB9BF.1D9F49A7@gregorybittar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Greg wrote: > Thanks to the wonderful work of everyone contributing code for pdfLaTeX, I am > creating TeX documents programmatically from Java and compiling them into PDFs > for distribution. Thank you all muchos grandos. One day, I hope to give back > to this GNU community which has given me so much. Not GNU (I assume you mean FSF) in fact, and the licensing *is* different. > My distributed PDFs are not shipping with the PDF icon. When I double-clink > on my generated PDFs in Windows or the Mac, it isn't opening up Adobe Reader. > Is there any knowledge out there about this? That is nothing to do with shipping files on Windows. The association is set by the reader, not the file. Are your PDF files something.pdf? If not, use that extension. If so, re-install your reader. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 29-Aug-2000 18:55:36-GMT,5305;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06156 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:55:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08158 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:59:59 -0400 Received: from idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org [206.181.22.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08155 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:59:58 -0400 Received: from idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (root@localhost) by idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org with ESMTP id OAA15473 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linus.princeton.idaccr.org (linus.princeton.idaccr.org [10.0.0.103]) by idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org with ESMTP id OAA15469 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linus (IDENT:gold@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linus.princeton.idaccr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16419 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:05:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200008291805.OAA16419@linus.princeton.idaccr.org> To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: hyperref bug? In-Reply-To: Message from Kevin Ivory of "Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:23:32 +0200." Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:05:21 -0400 From: David Goldschmidt Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'm enclosing what appears to be a bug in the hyperref package -- sorry I'm just a non-expert user so I can't really tell. If this is the wrong place for this, please let me know. When I run pdflatex on the following file ("bug.tex") in a stock Redhat 6.2 distribution: \documentclass[12pt,leqno]{article} \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage{amsthm} \usepackage{latexsym} \usepackage{amsfonts} \usepackage{amssymb} \usepackage{type1cm,times,mathptmx} \usepackage[pdftex, colorlinks, bookmarks,bookmarksopen, backref]{hyperref} \numberwithin{equation}{subsection} \newtheorem{Thm}[equation]{Theorem} \theoremstyle{definition} \newtheorem{Ex}{Exercise} \numberwithin{Ex}{section} \begin{document} \section{The Theorem Link} \subsection{This works OK} \begin{Thm} \label{thmlink} A hyperlink to this works correctly. \end{Thm} \begin{Ex} \label{ex1} However, try getting here from page 2. \end{Ex} \newpage \section{The exercise link} Note that the link to theorem \eqref{thmlink} works fine. However, try clicking on exercise \eqref{ex1}. \begin{Ex} \label{ex2} What's wrong here? \end{Ex} \end{document} I get the following output: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (bug.tex[/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, nohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/leqno.clo) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size12.clo)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsmath.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amstext.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsgen.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsbsy.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsopn.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsthm.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/latexsym.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/amsfonts.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/amssymb.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/type1cm.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/times.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/mathptmx/mathptmx.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/nameref.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/pd1enc.def) Implicit mode ON; LaTeX internals redefined (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/backref.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/url.sty)) *hyperref using driver hpdftex* (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hpdftex.def (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/pifont.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/upzd.fd) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/upsy.fd))) (bug.aux) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/ot1ptm.fd) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ))) (bug.out) (bug.out) [1[/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map]] Warning (ext1): destination with the same identifier (name{Ex.1}) already exist s! \new@pdflink ...e anchor #1}\fi \pdfdest name {#1} \@pdfview \ifvmode \nobrea... l.27 \begin{Ex} \label{ex2} [2] (bug.aux) )<8r.enc> Output written on bug.pdf (2 pages, 8274 bytes). Transcript written on bug.log. When the resulting pdf file is viewed in Acrobat 4.0, clicking on exercise 1.1 takes you to exercise 2.1. David Goldschmidt 29-Aug-2000 19:18:26-GMT,3142;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06895 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:18:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08180 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:21:55 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08177 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:21:53 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA25995; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:29:03 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:29:03 +0200 Message-Id: <200008291829.UAA25995@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Arto V. Viitanen" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: How to set the pdf-file name? In-Reply-To: <39AB78E8.713AA7BA@cs.uta.fi> References: <39AB78E8.713AA7BA@cs.uta.fi> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Arto" == Arto V Viitanen writes: > I made a new class, that lets me to generate either paperversion > or slideversion from the same document. If I give option > [paper], I get the paperversion (i.e. size is set to A4 etc.) > and with option [slide] I get the slideversion (using the > pdfslide style). It also sets a \boolean{slide}, so that I can > resize the pictures right. > Like I said, the class works fine. But, since I need two > versions, when I run the document thru pdflatex, I have to > rename the generated pdf-file to either document-paper.pdf or > document-slide.pdf. Is there any way to rename the generated > .pdf file from the classfile? I guess I also have to rename the > .aux file (to get the references right) etc. The easiest way is to rename the output files. This can be done with a little shell script that can also pass parameters to your tex file. Put sth. like that into your document: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \RequirePackage{ifthen} %% default is slides \ifthenelse{\isundefined{\PaperOrSlides}} {\newcommand\PaperOrSlides{slides}}{} \documentclass[\PaperOrSlides]{myclass} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% #!/bin/sh pdflatex '\def\PaperOrSlides{paper}\input myfile' mv myfile.pdf mypaper.pdf pdflatex '\def\PaperOrSlides{slides}\input myfile' mv myfile.pdf myslides.pdf Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Aug-2000 20:04:54-GMT,1867;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08130 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:04:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08328 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:10:35 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA08325 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:10:33 -0400 Received: from remote142-149.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.149] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13Tqsn-0002po-00; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:17:18 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000829211003.3bbf4412@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:10:03 +0200 To: Kevin Ivory , PDF-TeX mailing list From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref for local files In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 15:23 29.08.2000 +0200, Kevin Ivory wrote: >Here is one of my mails (from 07/13/00 17:57) that got lost in the >PDF-TeX list (German expression: Sommerloch). But in July the summer got also lost in Germany. >I am trying to get pdflatex and hyperref (and url) to work with >local files. url colors/boxes the links nicely but gives a "Cannot >follow this relative link" Acrobat-error-box. >\url{/etc/fstab}\\ The "file:" is missing, following works under AR3/Win3/Netscape3: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref} \begin{document} \url{file:///c|/temp/answer.txt} \end{document} Yours sincerely Heiko 30-Aug-2000 0:01:46-GMT,2155;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15159 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08911 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:52:46 -0400 Received: from box.home.de (Isis129.urz.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.138.129]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08908 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:52:43 -0400 Received: (from jochen@localhost) by box.home.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA01159; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 00:06:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <14764.13272.116955.263030@box.home.de> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 00:06:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Jochen Kuepper To: Prof Brian D Ripley Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Compliments; and How to get a PDF icon? In-Reply-To: References: <39ABB9BF.1D9F49A7@gregorybittar.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id RAA08909 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Prof Brian D Ripley writes: > > My distributed PDFs are not shipping with the PDF icon. When I double-clink > > on my generated PDFs in Windows or the Mac, it isn't opening up Adobe Reader. > > Is there any knowledge out there about this? > > That is nothing to do with shipping files on Windows. Yes it does. Windows uses this incredible bad "suffix <-> type" scheme, other OSs determine file types by a more usefull approach (e.g. using the first bytes of the file itself). > If so, re-install your reader. If that doesn´t help, reinstall Windows. If this still doesn´t help, ask someone to install Un*x for you. Jochen -- http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll 30-Aug-2000 1:35:42-GMT,2193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17257 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:35:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08983 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:18:16 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA08980 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:18:14 -0400 Received: from remote142-165.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.165] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13TvgY-0005zS-00; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 02:24:59 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000830020641.4467e238@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 02:06:41 +0200 To: David Goldschmidt , PDF-TeX mailing list From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref bug? In-Reply-To: <200008291805.OAA16419@linus.princeton.idaccr.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 14:05 29.08.2000 -0400, David Goldschmidt wrote: > > \usepackage{amsmath} > \newtheorem{Ex}{Exercise} > \numberwithin{Ex}{section} > \section{The Theorem Link} > \begin{Ex} \label{ex1} However, try getting here from page 2. > \section{The exercise link} > \begin{Ex} \label{ex2} > Warning (ext1): destination with the same identifier (name{Ex.1}) already exist Thanks for the bug report. Internally hyperref uses the counter "HEx" to make an anchor for the Ex theorem. But \numberwithin does work only on counter "Ex", therefore the counter values "HEx" are equal for both environments. 1st \begin{Ex}: \theEx = 1.1, \theHEx = 1 2nd \begin{Ex}: \theEx = 2.1, \theHEx = 2 A quick workaround: \numberwithin{Ex}{section} \let\theHEx\theEx I will add an extended version of \numberwithin into hyperref. Yours sincerely Heiko 30-Aug-2000 5:15:34-GMT,1561;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22863 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:15:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09261 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:57:20 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA09257 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:57:18 -0400 Received: from remote142-6.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.6] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13Tz6a-0007Ks-00; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 06:04:04 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000830060132.08df35e0@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 06:01:32 +0200 To: David Goldschmidt , PDF-TeX mailing list From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref bug? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000830020641.4467e238@localhost> References: <200008291805.OAA16419@linus.princeton.idaccr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 02:06 30.08.2000 +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >I will add an extended version of \numberwithin >into hyperref. Done in hyperref 2000/08/30 v6.30r. Yours sincerely Heiko 30-Aug-2000 6:29:08-GMT,2032;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24529 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 00:29:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA09626 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 00:12:14 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.uta.fi (IDENT:root@mail.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.25]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA09623 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 00:12:09 -0400 Received: from cs.uta.fi (IDENT:av@siwenna.cs.uta.fi [153.1.55.52]) by mail.cs.uta.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA16024; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:19:07 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <39AC993E.26D51E9A@cs.uta.fi> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:18:54 +0300 From: "Arto V. Viitanen" Organization: University of Tampere, Dept. of CS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test7 i686) X-Accept-Language: fi, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Radhakrishnan C V , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to set the pdf-file name? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Radhakrishnan C V wrote: > > Arto, do you think this is good for your purpose? Here, not only that > you can compile all your files, but also you can have different output > of all files (or at your will a single file alone or a combination > of files) with a single command. > > I too relish using Linux and my sole operating system for five years > now. Yes, that is better, since you don't have to edit the document like in my case. Anyhow, since it seems that I have to edit the document to fit it nicely onto paper and then onto slides, my solution suites me. > > -- > Radhakrishnan -- Arto V. Viitanen av@cs.uta.fi University of Tampere, Department of Computer and Information Sciences Tampere, Finland http://www.cs.uta.fi/~av/ 30-Aug-2000 10:36:13-GMT,3540;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28944 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 04:36:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA10129 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 04:37:39 -0400 Received: from artemis.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (artemis.rus.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.1.28]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA10126 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 04:37:37 -0400 Received: from ref44pc1 ([129.69.159.39]) by artemis.rus.uni-stuttgart.de with SMTP id LAA12800; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:44:25 +0200 (MET DST) env-from (Ernst.Willand@PO.uni-stuttgart.de) Message-ID: <002601c01266$f6c76240$142c040a@fmpamn.fmpa.de> Reply-To: "Ernst Willand" From: "Ernst Willand" To: "pdfTeX Mailing List" , "Ross Moore" References: <200008282227.JAA07506@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: I have a pdftex-hyperref-dream Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:44:59 +0200 Organization: FMPA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thank You for Your hints! > > The book contains about 200 Sections each in a seperate > > LaTeX-file included by the \include command. The output > > of pdftex is a single 6MB pdf-file, too big to publish it > > in the Internet. > > > > It would be nice, if every included TeX-file would be written > > into a seperate pdf-output, so \include{section1.tex} will > > produce a file section1.pdf and a hyperref-link written > > in the main document or any of the section-files will load > > that file and jump to the refered position in that file .... > > > This is quite do-able; but you'll need to do some re-arranging > of your document structure. > > Cross-document hyperlink are achievable with hyperref. > I use them to cross-link Question & Answer documents for student's > Assignment sheets and Exercises. > > Best is to use a Makefile to control the typesetting of each > section as a separate PDF document, and to help determine when > it is necessary to update a particular section. > Yes it is doable like that, and I will try. - I have to change all hyperlinks in the main document and all included section files. - I need to loop over all section files to have them formatted as single \includeonly files, - rename these files to fit to the changed hyperlink calls - and finally change all automatic hyperlinks in the toc, lot and lof files and the index manually or with a little (fortran)program after each TeX-run to refer to those renamed filenames instead to the main document. Quite nasty but possible. Probably I should store the path/filename to refer to in a variable which is then automatically set by a modified \section command. This may allow to use the same TeX-source for a splitted and an unsplitted output-version. > All the logic to handle this is described in the LaTeX2HTML > chapter of the "LaTeX Web Companion", in the context of converting > structured LaTeX documents to multiple Web pages. > (Segmented Documents is the jargon used.) > > I checked this book in a bookshop and bought it. Seem's to be very good, may be I'll find a more streamline solution there. 30-Aug-2000 13:02:11-GMT,1772;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01679 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 07:02:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA10299 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 07:06:10 -0400 Received: from e-bilarr1.iberdrola.es ([194.30.8.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10296 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 07:06:07 -0400 Received: from c-m0mela1.iberdrola.es (172.20.66.234 [172.20.66.234]) by e-bilarr1.iberdrola.es with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id R8R38GJR; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:14:37 +0200 Received: from s-m0smtp2.iberdrola.es ([172.20.66.221]) by c-m0mela1.iberdrola.es with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id R7SQ3B1P; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:08:16 +0200 Received: from hor155219y by s-m0smtp2.iberdrola.es via 172.20.28.136 with SMTP-TCP; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:14:34 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c01274$c19ef3e0$881c14ac@hor155219y.iberdrola.es> From: "Pablo F. Perez" To: Subject: Protect pdf files. Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:23:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I use pdftex 0.13d with Linux/x86 and I'm interested in creating pdf files changing the default security options. I know that encryption is not supported yet but ¿is it possible to forbid text selection or printing ? Thank you, Pablo Perez. 30-Aug-2000 15:15:07-GMT,1776;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04893 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:15:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10491 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:14:08 -0400 Received: from camelia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-10.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10488 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:13:58 -0400 Received: from mahonia.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.58) by camelia.wanadoo.fr; 30 Aug 2000 16:13:02 +0200 Received: from [213.56.247.12] (213.56.247.12) by mahonia.wanadoo.fr; 30 Aug 2000 16:10:18 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michel.bovani@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000501c01274$c19ef3e0$881c14ac@hor155219y.iberdrola.es> References: <000501c01274$c19ef3e0$881c14ac@hor155219y.iberdrola.es> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:17:46 +0200 To: "Pablo F. Perez" From: Michel Bovani Subject: Re: Protect pdf files. Cc: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Le 30/08/00 à 13:23 +0200 Pablo F. Perez a écrit : >Hi, > >I use pdftex 0.13d with Linux/x86 and I'm interested in creating pdf files >changing the default security options. >I know that encryption is not supported yet but ¿is it possible to forbid >text selection or printing ? I think this is not allowed in pdf specs (as far as I know). Anyway, if the file is not encrypted, one could open it with a text editor and disable your printing/editing restrictions... -- --- Michel Bovani 30-Aug-2000 15:23:13-GMT,1703;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05148 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:23:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10473 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:02:51 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA10470 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:02:49 -0400 Received: from remote142-147.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.147] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13U8YZ-0000xn-00; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:09:36 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000830160702.506f3122@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:07:02 +0200 To: David Goldschmidt , PDF-TeX mailing list From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref bug? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000830060132.08df35e0@localhost> References: <3.0.1.16.20000830020641.4467e238@localhost> <200008291805.OAA16419@linus.princeton.idaccr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 06:01 30.08.2000 +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >At 02:06 30.08.2000 +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >>I will add an extended version of \numberwithin >>into hyperref. > >Done in hyperref 2000/08/30 v6.30r. Sorry typo, it should read: v6.70r. Yours sincerely Heiko 30-Aug-2000 19:31:31-GMT,1782;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13433 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:31:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11341 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:47:13 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA11338 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:47:11 -0400 Received: from remote142-10.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.10] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13UCzm-0005hf-00; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 20:53:59 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000830171327.29c7b48a@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:13:27 +0200 To: "Pablo F. Perez" , From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: Protect pdf files. In-Reply-To: <000501c01274$c19ef3e0$881c14ac@hor155219y.iberdrola.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id NAA11339 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 13:23 30.08.2000 +0200, Pablo F. Perez wrote: >I use pdftex 0.13d with Linux/x86 and I'm interested in creating pdf files >changing the default security options. >I know that encryption is not supported yet but ¿is it possible to forbid >text selection or printing ? No, because encryption is needed for this. Yours sincerely Heiko PS: Such wishes are quite unrealistic: all, what can be displayed, can also be printed. 31-Aug-2000 15:47:50-GMT,2117;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11320 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:47:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13685 for pdftex-list; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:54:45 -0400 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13682 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:54:43 -0400 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc25.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.215]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16285 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:01:55 +0200 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28528 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:58:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:58:55 +0200 (MEST) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: problem including pdf graphic Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Some (not all) of the PDF graphic files, that I generated from electronic articles via ps -> ps2epsi -> epstopdf, will show up properly, when viewed in AR4.0 per se. However if I include them into a seminar document via \includegraphics (pdftex together with fixseminar.sty), they get black and skewed and scrambled. How come ? Thanks for any help, H.Betz P.S.: How could I in the seminar package calculate the distance, that remains between the heading (shadowbox) and the lower border of the slide frame ? I need this to include the graphics in the right size ... ________________________________ | ------- | | heading | | ------- | | | | | |distance | | | | | | | --------------------------------- 31-Aug-2000 16:25:48-GMT,2231;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12544 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:25:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13774 for pdftex-list; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:43:39 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13771 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:43:34 -0400 Received: from remote142-127.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.127] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13UWbe-0006o9-00; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:50:22 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000831174236.0b0778e8@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:42:36 +0200 To: Radhakrishnan C V , "Philip A. Viton" From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: pdfex+hyperref+pifonts Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.2.32.20000822102551.00999200@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:54 23.08.2000 +0530, Radhakrishnan C V wrote: >On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Philip A. Viton wrote: > >PAV> The pdftex config file (hpdftex.def) for the hyperref package loads >PAV> pifont.sty. Unfortunately, I don't have the fonts referred to there, and >PAV> a. is there a cleaner way to avoid this package? > >create a dummy pifont.sty with a single line \relax or \endinput and >replace the original pifont.sty with this. An alternative: You can add the following lines in your hyperref.cfg file: \expandafter\providecommand\csname ver@pifont.sty\endcsname{} \providecommand*{\ding}[1]{% % your definition goes here (hyperref calls \ding{123}) } By the first line hyperref/LaTeX thinks, that pifont.sty is already loaded. And with an appropriate definition of \ding forms can also be used. Yours sincerely Heiko 31-Aug-2000 16:55:57-GMT,2221;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13747 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:55:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13841 for pdftex-list; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:02:54 -0400 Received: from mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu (mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu [128.146.214.30]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13838 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:02:53 -0400 Received: from pviton (ts29-16.homenet.ohio-state.edu [140.254.114.103]) by mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA23173; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20000831120913.00918100@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: pviton@pop.service.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:09:13 -0300 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "Philip A. Viton" Subject: graphics inclusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Can someone pinpoint what I'm doing wrong here? For the short tex file below, and pdftex 14e for win32 systems, the source is file is processed without apparent errors, but no graphic is displayed. Under 14d, after removing the two "nat" entries, the graphic does display. Removing the two "nat" statements under 14e leads to a serious Undefined control sequence error. In both cases the graphic is in the same directory as the source. In the transcript, the difference is that after processing the .aux file, 14d reports (winston.jpg .... [data] ....image 1) and then (use winston.jpg). Under 14e we go directly from thne aux file to (use winston.jpg). ===================== graf1.tex ===================================== \documentclass{article} \RequirePackage{graphicx} \begin{document} This is a test of graphics under pdfTeX. \includegraphics[% natheight=2.751in, natwidth=4.599in, height=2.751in, width=4.599in] {winston.jpg} \end{document} ------------------------ Philip A. Viton City Planning, Ohio State University 190 W. 17th Ave,Columbus OH 43210 viton.1@osu.edu 31-Aug-2000 17:39:27-GMT,2728;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15211 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:39:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14119 for pdftex-list; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:58:45 -0400 Received: from mail.SerNet.DE (exim@mail.SerNet.DE [193.159.217.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14116 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:58:43 -0400 Received: from intern.SerNet.DE by mail.SerNet.DE with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13UXmS-0002Zj-00; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:05:36 +0200 Received: by intern.SerNet.DE id 13UXmS-0003Rb-00; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:05:36 +0200 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:05:36 +0200 From: Kevin Ivory Organization: Service Network GmbH X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF-TeX mailing list CC: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref for local files References: <3.0.1.16.20000829211003.3bbf4412@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > At 15:23 29.08.2000 +0200, Kevin Ivory wrote: > >I am trying to get pdflatex and hyperref (and url) to work with > >local files. url colors/boxes the links nicely but gives a "Cannot > >follow this relative link" Acrobat-error-box. > > >\url{/etc/fstab}\\ Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > The "file:" is missing, following works under > AR3/Win3/Netscape3: > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref} > \begin{document} > \url{file:///c|/temp/answer.txt} > \end{document} Okay, and \url{file:/etc/profile} works as well, but the reason for using the \newcommand for \file was that I want "file:/etc/hosts" to appear as "/etc/hosts" in the document. I still have the same problem if I use \documentclass{article} \usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref} \newcommand{\file}[1]{\href{file:#1}{\texttt{#1}}} \begin{document} \url{file:/etc/hosts} \file{/etc/modules.conf} \file{/etc/profile} \end{document} file:/etc/hosts and /etc/modules.conf work as expected (and have a pink color) but with /etc/profile (colored light blue) acroread says, "There was an error opening this document. No such file or directory." System: SuSE Linux 6.3 based + pdfTeX 3.14159-14f-released-20000525, acroread 4.05 Kevin -- _ | Kevin Ivory | Tel: +49-551-37000041 |_ |\ | | Service Network GmbH | Fax: +49-551-3700009 ._|ER | \|ET | Bahnhofsallee 1b | mailto:Ivory@SerNet.de Service Network | D-37081 Goettingen | http://www.SerNet.de/ 31-Aug-2000 19:06:05-GMT,2175;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17668 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:06:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14292 for pdftex-list; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:21:57 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA14289 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:21:56 -0400 Received: from remote142-30.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.30] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13UZ4y-0001VA-00; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:28:49 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000831202407.54ef5836@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:24:07 +0200 To: Kevin Ivory , PDF-TeX mailing list From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: hyperref for local files In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.16.20000829211003.3bbf4412@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 19:05 31.08.2000 +0200, Kevin Ivory wrote: >\documentclass{article} >\usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref} >\newcommand{\file}[1]{\href{file:#1}{\texttt{#1}}} >\begin{document} >\url{file:/etc/hosts} >\file{/etc/modules.conf} >\file{/etc/profile} >\end{document} > >file:/etc/hosts and /etc/modules.conf work as expected (and have >a pink color) but with /etc/profile (colored light blue) acroread says, >"There was an error opening this document. No such file or directory." The reason is, that \@hyper@linkfile adds ".\XR@ext" (= ".pdf") to files, which does not have an extension. Because I do not know the reason for this behaviour, I will not change this. But I can offer you a macro definition for \file: \makeatletter \newcommand*{\file}{\hyper@normalise\@file} \newcommand*{\@file}[1]{% \hyper@linkurl{\nolinkurl{#1}}{file:#1}% } \makeatother Yours sincerely Heiko 31-Aug-2000 19:14:59-GMT,1628;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17881 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:14:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14312 for pdftex-list; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:32:54 -0400 Received: from mail.SerNet.DE (exim@mail.SerNet.DE [193.159.217.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14309 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:32:52 -0400 Received: from intern.SerNet.DE by mail.SerNet.DE with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) for pdftex@tug.org id 13UZFa-0003YR-00; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:39:46 +0200 Received: by intern.SerNet.DE id 13UZFa-0003pU-00; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:39:46 +0200 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:39:46 +0200 From: Kevin Ivory Organization: Service Network GmbH X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: hyperref for local files References: <3.0.1.16.20000829211003.3bbf4412@localhost> <3.0.1.16.20000831202407.54ef5836@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > But I can offer you a macro definition for \file: Thanks, it works wonderful! Kevin -- _ | Kevin Ivory | Tel: +49-551-37000041 |_ |\ | | Service Network GmbH | Fax: +49-551-3700009 ._|ER | \|ET | Bahnhofsallee 1b | mailto:Ivory@SerNet.de Service Network | D-37081 Goettingen | http://www.SerNet.de/ 1-Sep-2000 19:16:21-GMT,5579;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23593 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:16:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17043 for pdftex-list; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:05:16 -0400 Received: from mailserver.ipf.net (pop.itl-online.de [195.211.211.85]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA17040 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:05:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 11429 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2000 18:12:06 -0000 Received: from dialin-194-29-58-202.frankfurt.gigabell.net (HELO pc1) (194.29.58.202) by mail.okay.net with SMTP; 1 Sep 2000 18:12:06 -0000 Message-ID: <000201c01440$263f77d0$0100a8c0@pc1> From: "Bernd und Susan Nitzschmann" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Protect pdf files Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:10:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C01450.A46F2320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C01450.A46F2320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 13:23 30.08.2000 +0200, Pablo F. Perez wrote: > I use pdftex 0.13d with Linux/x86 and I'm interested in creating pdf = files >changing the default security options. >I know that encryption is not supported yet but =BFis it=20 possible to forbid>text selection or printing ? Hi, I am looking for a solution of a similar problem: I would like to = distribute PDF-files and restrict the recipients to view the contents = only. Should be just a small problem, I guess. As far as I understood, disabling printing and disabling selecting text = together with encryption should protect our very very important contents = (at least a little bit). The advertisement on www.adobe.com says, that with Adobe Acrobat (or = Distiller?) you can enable/disable printing, copy/paste, encryption for = your PDF-files separately.=20 =20 If one doesn't want to buy this product, there is another one: The = Tenbox Inc (www.tenbox.com) sells a standalone, comandline-driven = program which can add security to PDF and which can change the above = mentioned options. Wow! Unfortunately, the price is ~600 USD.=20 HELP! Is there any low-price-solution to disable printing and text = selection in PDF-files? Since my recipients are normal people without = good computer knowledge, this would be sufficient. I cannot believe that = I'm the only one having this problem. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C01450.A46F2320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

At 13:23 30.08.2000 +0200, Pablo F. Perez=20 wrote:
 
> I use pdftex 0.13d with Linux/x86 and I'm = interested in=20 creating pdf files
>changing the default security = options.
>I know that encryption is not supported yet but = ¿is=20 it
possible to forbid>text selection or printing ?
 
Hi,
 
I am looking for a solution of a = similar=20 problem: I would like to distribute PDF-files and restrict the = recipients to=20 view the contents only. Should be just a small problem, I = guess.
As far as I=20 understood, disabling printing and disabling selecting text together = with=20 encryption should protect our very very important contents (at least a = little=20 bit).
 
The advertisement on www.adobe.com says, that with Adobe = Acrobat (or=20 Distiller?) you can enable/disable printing, copy/paste, encryption for = your=20 PDF-files separately.
 
If one doesn't = want to buy=20 this product, there is another one: The Tenbox Inc (www.tenbox.com) sells a standalone,=20 comandline-driven program which can add security to PDF and which can = change the=20 above mentioned options. Wow! Unfortunately, the price is ~600 USD.=20
 
HELP! Is there any = low-price-solution to disable=20 printing and text selection in PDF-files? Since my recipients are normal = people=20 without good computer knowledge, this would be sufficient. I cannot = believe that=20 I'm the only one having this problem.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C01450.A46F2320-- 3-Sep-2000 18:06:15-GMT,3210;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13769 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:06:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20845 for pdftex-list; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:24:33 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20842 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:24:32 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.28.202]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAB6608; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:31:36 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000902203902.00890750@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 20:39:02 +0200 To: "Bernd und Susan Nitzschmann" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Protect pdf files Cc: , In-Reply-To: <000201c01440$263f77d0$0100a8c0@pc1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:10 PM 9/1/00 +0200, Bernd und Susan Nitzschmann wrote: > >At 13:23 30.08.2000 +0200, Pablo F. Perez wrote: > I use pdftex 0.13d >with Linux/x86 and I'm interested in creating pdf files >changing the >default security options. >I know that encryption is not supported yet but >¿is it >>text selection or printing ? Hi, I am looking for a solution of a >similar problem: I would like to distribute PDF-files and restrict the >recipients to view the contents only. Should be just a small problem, I >guess. As far as I understood, disabling printing and disabling selecting >text together with encryption should protect our very very important >contents (at least a little bit). The advertisement on www.adobe.com >says, that with Adobe Acrobat (or Distiller?) you can enable/disable >printing, copy/paste, encryption for your PDF-files separately. If one >doesn't want to buy this product, there is another one: The Tenbox Inc >(www.tenbox.com) sells a standalone, comandline-driven program which can >add security to PDF and which can change the above mentioned options. Wow! >Unfortunately, the price is ~600 USD. HELP! Is there any >low-price-solution to disable printing and text selection in PDF-files? >Since my recipients are normal people without good computer knowledge, >this would be sufficient. I cannot believe that I'm the only one having >this problem. Acribat is not that expensive and if you use pdf professionally, it's worth having distiller and acrobat. For protecting or encrypting your docs, a version 3 copy will do too. Sometimes acrobat (formerly known as exchange)comes with cdroms. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Sep-2000 7:04:58-GMT,1462;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA27579 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:04:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA22078 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:24:20 -0400 Received: from epsilon.dynaweb.de (epsilon.dynaweb.de [195.88.176.162]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA22075 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 01:24:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 43556 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2000 06:31:24 -0000 Received: from p3ee29464.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO servus) (62.226.148.100) by epsilon.dynaweb.de with SMTP; 4 Sep 2000 06:31:24 -0000 Message-ID: <002d01c01639$95e78960$78e2fea9@servus> From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "pdfTeX" References: <3.0.6.32.20000902203902.00890750@pop.wxs.nl> Subject: Re: Protect pdf files Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:30:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk BTW how "good" is the encryption in Acrobat? Ulrich -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) 4-Sep-2000 10:10:38-GMT,1617;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA00764 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 04:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA22354 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 04:22:16 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22351 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 04:22:13 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13Vsee-000079-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:35:04 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA02862 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:28:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13VsXi-004wwQC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:27:54 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:27:54 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: [FAQ] License? Message-ID: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, this must be a faq (but it's not in the faq and not in pdftexsrc-20000525.tgz): What's the license of pdfTeX? Best regards Martin P.S.: systems/pdftex/README on ctan mentions the GPL as license. Is this correct? 4-Sep-2000 12:07:18-GMT,1617;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02728 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:07:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA22517 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:13:13 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA22514 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:13:12 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13VuO4-0000zn-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:26:04 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA05547 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:19:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13VuGK-004wwQC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:18:04 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:18:04 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: [FAQ] License? Message-ID: <20000904131804.F3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, this must be a faq (but it's not in the faq and not in pdftexsrc-20000525.tgz): What's the license of pdfTeX? Best regards Martin P.S.: systems/pdftex/README on ctan mentions the GPL as license. Is this correct? 4-Sep-2000 12:21:49-GMT,1744;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02996 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:21:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA22541 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:36:09 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA22538 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:36:06 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08125; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:43:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00438; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:43:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? In-Reply-To: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= at "Sep 4, 0 11:27:54 am" To: martin@oneiros.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:43:12 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > this must be a faq (but it's not in the faq and not in > pdftexsrc-20000525.tgz): What's the license of pdfTeX? > > Best regards > Martin > > P.S.: systems/pdftex/README on ctan mentions the GPL as license. > Is this correct? yes pdftex is under GPL. I am considering to make it "more free", but probably later when I have more time. Regards, Thanh 4-Sep-2000 12:33:05-GMT,2011;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03182 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:33:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA22601 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:49:12 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA22596 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:49:10 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13Vuwr-0001Ed-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:02:01 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA05940 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:56:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13VuqO-004wwQC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:55:20 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:55:20 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? Message-ID: <20000904135520.B16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20000904131804.F3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000904131804.F3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de>; from ms@artcom-gmbh.de on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:18:04PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the dupe; the mailing list is a bit slooow. :-{ Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 4-Sep-2000 12:34:10-GMT,2448;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03212 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:34:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA22602 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:49:12 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA22595 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 06:49:10 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13Vuwr-0001Eb-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:02:01 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA05925 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:55:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13Vupi-004wwQC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:54:38 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:54:38 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? Message-ID: <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:43:12PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-09-04 13:43:12 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > > P.S.: systems/pdftex/README on ctan mentions the GPL as license. > > Is this correct? > > yes pdftex is under GPL. I am considering to make it "more free", but > probably later when I have more time. Good. The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL (we would have to GPL our whole workflow, which is impossible). LGPL would be the best for us. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 4-Sep-2000 13:32:42-GMT,4536;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04260 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:31:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA22664 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:48:02 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22661 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:46:40 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id OAA09531; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:53:48 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200009041253.OAA19459@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id OAA19459; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:53:47 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:53:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: pdftex & color.sty To: oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Cc: davidc@nag.co.uk, pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: r+6XQA3SKTKZgZftVCGqxQ== Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:17:31 +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > > At 14:20 06.04.00 +0100, David Carlisle wrote: > > > > ... or you implement a multiple mark > >scheme (either as tex macros, or using etex multiple primitive marks) > >and then rewrite large sections of latexs output routine to handle > >colour restore information by use of `color' marks. > > After the Dante meeting I have started to experiment with the > eTeX method of a `colour' mark. One of the major problems is > the understanding of the output routine and the need to rewrite > it because of missing hooks. I have appended my very first try > with some tests in onecolumn and twocolumn mode, but without > considering floats. > > For experiments I have put the code in a package file > "pdfcolmk.sty" Very well done indeed. Worked immediately here with a `trivial' test file of mine as well as with the test file you appended (in the sense that adding \usepackage{pdfcolmk} to the test file(s) made pdflatex's color problems go away without breaking anything). Is this package going to be distributed/supported in any way, so I could point to it if people are having problems with colors in pdflatex? Didn't work with seminar, of course, because seminar has its own output routine. But in powersem, I'm redefining seminar's output routine anyway to provide at least the most basic color support which previously didn't exist in seminar (\normalcolor before headers, this kind of thing). So I could just add your method of color handling as an option. Two oddities I found out while experimenting with this: * what happens when a page doesn't contain _any_ color command (i.e. \pdfliteral{} for pdftex)? With standard LaTeX, there'll always be at least one because of \normalcolor in header and footer. But seminar doesn't have this, so if no explicit color command occurs on a page, there won't be any. I'd have expected a page without color command to inherit the text color from the previous page, so that for instance setting a color in the preamble would determine the text color for the whole document. Before I inserted \normalcolor before headers and footers in powersem's output routine, however, the text color seemed to switch to black on pages without color commands... * (OT wrt pdftex) Before I saw Heiko's code, I didn't even know etex.sty existed and was convinced activating etex specials in LaTeX would break all kinds of code because of the extended length of counter numbers and the like (making TeX `scan too far'). However, magically nothing broke :-) As the fact that TeXPower uses 15 counters seems to push the combination of seminar+PSTricks+AMSmath+TeXPower+(diverse) to the very limit of TeX's 256 registers, I'm now wondering whether it's worth the effort to reduce TeXPower's counter hunger, or whether I should just tell everybody to use (pdf)elatex... How safe is elatex+etex.sty+(anything)? Did anyone ever see anything break? regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 4-Sep-2000 13:35:14-GMT,1648;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04346 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:35:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA22720 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:53:47 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.105]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22717 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 07:53:42 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (root@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA20011; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:33:00 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:cvr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA06132; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:25:21 +0530 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:25:21 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Han The Thanh cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= , pdfTeX Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? In-Reply-To: <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Han The Thanh wrote: : > P.S.: systems/pdftex/README on ctan mentions the GPL as license. : > Is this correct? : : yes pdftex is under GPL. I am considering to make it "more free", but : probably later when I have more time. I shall update the FAQ. -- Radhakrishnan 4-Sep-2000 14:00:57-GMT,10000;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04842 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:00:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22806 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:18:11 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA22790 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:16:50 -0400 Received: from remote142-165.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.165] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13VwDh-00030Z-00; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:23:30 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000904151841.432ffb2e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 15:18:41 +0200 To: Stephan Lehmke From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: pdftex & color.sty Cc: davidc@nag.co.uk, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200009041253.OAA19459@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 14:53 04.09.2000 +0200, Stephan Lehmke wrote: >On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:17:31 +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >> >> At 14:20 06.04.00 +0100, David Carlisle wrote: >> > >> > ... or you implement a multiple mark >> >scheme (either as tex macros, or using etex multiple primitive marks) >> >and then rewrite large sections of latexs output routine to handle >> >colour restore information by use of `color' marks. >> >> After the Dante meeting I have started to experiment with the >> eTeX method of a `colour' mark. One of the major problems is >> the understanding of the output routine and the need to rewrite >> it because of missing hooks. I have appended my very first try >> with some tests in onecolumn and twocolumn mode, but without >> considering floats. >> >> For experiments I have put the code in a package file >> "pdfcolmk.sty" > >Very well done indeed. Worked immediately here with a >`trivial' test file of mine as well as with the test file >you appended (in the sense that adding \usepackage{pdfcolmk} >to the test file(s) made pdflatex's color problems go away >without breaking anything). > >Is this package going to be distributed/supported in any >way, so I could point to it if people are having problems >with colors in pdflatex? I have written last weekend a next version (try). Here I only overload \output. And I have added a solution without e-TeX by redefining some of LaTeX's mark commands. >Didn't work with seminar, of course, because seminar has its >own output routine. The same with the next version of pdfcolmk. >But in powersem, I'm redefining seminar's output routine >anyway to provide at least the most basic color support >which previously didn't exist in seminar (\normalcolor >before headers, this kind of thing). So I could just add >your method of color handling as an option. Good. >Two oddities I found out while experimenting with this: > >* what happens when a page doesn't contain _any_ color > command (i.e. \pdfliteral{} for pdftex)? > With standard LaTeX, there'll always be at least one > because of \normalcolor in header and footer. > But seminar doesn't have this, so if no explicit color > command occurs on a page, there won't be any. > I'd have expected a page without color command to > inherit the text color from the previous page, so > that for instance setting a color in the preamble would > determine the text color for the whole document. > Before I inserted \normalcolor before headers and footers > in powersem's output routine, however, the text color > seemed to switch to black on pages without color > commands... Only some attributes /MediaBox, /Cropbox, /Rotate, ... (see Table 6.5 on page 73 of PDF spec. 1.3) are inherited. But the default color belongs to the graphics state. The PDF spec. says: "The graphics state is initialized at the beginning of each page, using the default values specified in each of the operator descriptions." (page 322). >* (OT wrt pdftex) Before I saw Heiko's code, I didn't even know > etex.sty existed and was convinced activating etex specials > in LaTeX would break all kinds of code because of the extended > length of counter numbers and the like (making TeX `scan too far'). > However, magically nothing broke :-) > As the fact that TeXPower uses 15 counters seems to push the > combination of seminar+PSTricks+AMSmath+TeXPower+(diverse) > to the very limit of TeX's 256 registers, I'm now wondering > whether it's worth the effort to reduce TeXPower's counter > hunger, or whether I should just tell everybody to use > (pdf)elatex... > How safe is elatex+etex.sty+(anything)? Did anyone ever see > anything break? The only package that I know is french.sty, that is broken by e-TeX. (I have written a bug report to BG). Yours sincerely Heiko PS: the new version of pdfcolmk.sty: %%% cut %%% pdfcolmk.sty %%% cut %%% % File: pdfcolmk.sty % Version: 2000/09/02 v0.3 % Author: Heiko Oberdiek % Email: % % Copyright: Copyright (C) 2000 Heiko Oberdiek. % % This program may be distributed and/or modified under % the conditions of the LaTeX Project Public License, % either version 1.2 of this license or (at your option) % any later version. The latest version of this license % is in % http://www.latex-project.org/lppl.txt % and version 1.2 or later is part of all distributions % of LaTeX version 1999/12/01 or later. % % Function: This package tries a solution for the missing color % stack of pdfteX. % % Background: After the Dante meeting (Clausthal 2000) I have started % to experiment with the eTeX method of a `colour' mark. % One of the major problems is the understanding of the % output routine and the need to rewrite it because of % missing hooks. Currently I have made some tests in % in onecolumn and twocolumn mode, but the state is % experimental. % % Limitations: * mark limitations: page breaks in math % * LaTeX's output routine is redefinded. % * Changes in the output routine of newer versions % of LaTeX are not detected. % * Packages that change the output routine are not % supported. % % Recommended: e-TeX (for additional mark register) % Without e-TeX LaTeX's mark commands are redefined % to store an additional color value. % % Use: Load after package color: % \usepackage[pdftex]{color} % \usepackage{pdfcolmk} % % History: 2000/08/27 v0.1: % first published version % (comp.text.tex, pdftex@tug.org) % 2000/09/02 v0.2: % * next try. % 2000/09/02 v0.3: % * solution without e-TeX added. % \NeedsTeXFormat{LaTeX2e}[1997/11/09] \ProvidesPackage{pdfcolmk}[2000/09/01 v0.2 PDFtex COLor MarK (HO)] \@ifundefined{ver@pdftex.def}{% \PackageWarningNoLine{pdfcolmk}{% Nothing to fix, because \string`pdftex.def\string' not loaded% }% \endinput }{} \@ifpackageloaded{color}{}{% \PackageWarningNoLine{pdfcolmk}{% Nothing to fix, because \string`color.sty\string' not loaded% }% \endinput } \typeout{*** CAUTION: EXPERIMENTAL ***}% \PackageInfo{pdfcolmk}{% This package tries to simulate dvips's color stack\MessageBreak for pdfTeX based on a mark register of e-TeX.\MessageBreak It redefines LaTeX's output routine. Therefore\MessageBreak use with care, no warranties% } \ifx\marks\@undefined \let\pec@mark\mark \long\def\mark#1{% \protected@xdef\pec@value{#1}% \pec@setmark } \def\pec@setmark{% \begingroup \@temptokena\expandafter{\pec@value}% \pec@mark{{\current@color}\the\@temptokena}% \endgroup } \def\pec@getmark{% \xdef\pec@botcolor{% \expandafter\@firstofthree\botmark\@empty\@empty\@empty }% } \long\def\@firstofthree#1#2#3{#1}% \CheckCommand{\@leftmark}[2]{#1} \CheckCommand{\@rightmark}[2]{#2} \CheckCommand*{\leftmark}{% \expandafter\@leftmark\botmark\@empty\@empty } \CheckCommand*{\rightmark}{% \expandafter\@rightmark\firstmark\@empty\@empty } \long\def\@leftmark#1#2#3{#2} \long\def\@rightmark#1#2#3{#3} \g@addto@macro\leftmark\@empty \g@addto@macro\rightmark\@empty \else \RequirePackage{etex}[1998/03/26] \newmarks\pec@marks \def\pec@setmark{\marks\pec@marks{\current@color}} \def\pec@getmark{\xdef\pec@botcolor{\botmarks\pec@marks}} \fi \def\set@color{% \pdfliteral{\current@color}% \ifinner \else \pec@setmark \fi \aftergroup\reset@color } \def\reset@color{% \pdfliteral{\current@color}% \ifinner \else \pec@setmark \fi } \let\pec@botcolor\current@color \long\def\pec@output#1\@specialoutput\else#2\pec@end{% \begingroup \def\x{#2}% \expandafter\endgroup \ifx\x\@empty \PackageWarningNoLine{pdfcolmk}{% Unexpected \string\output\space routine detected,% \MessageBreak loading of package stopped% }% \expandafter\endinput \fi } \expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\pec@output \expandafter\@firstofone\the\output\@specialoutput\else\pec@end \long\def\pec@output#1\@specialoutput\else#2\pec@end{% \output{% #1\@specialoutput\else \ifx\pec@botcolor\@empty \else \setbox\@cclv\vbox{% \pdfliteral{\pec@botcolor}% \unvbox\@cclv }% \fi \pec@getmark #2% }% } \expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\pec@output \expandafter\@firstofone\the\output\pec@end \endinput %%% cut %%% pdfcolmk.sty %%% cut %%% 4-Sep-2000 14:34:59-GMT,1938;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05503 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:34:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22874 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:55:13 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22871 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:55:11 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13Vwuo-00026o-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:08:02 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id QAA08331 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:02:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13Vwoi-004wwQC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:01:44 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:01:43 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: working example.tex? Message-ID: <20000904160143.C16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, the example.tex distributed with teTeX in texmf/doc/pdftex/ is quite old (1998-03-22) and doesn't work with 0.14f anymore. Is there a working version somewhere? Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 4-Sep-2000 14:46:27-GMT,2370;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05730 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:46:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22898 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:02:52 -0400 Received: from dtwse201.detewe.de ([195.50.171.201]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22895 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:02:50 -0400 Received: from zinse043.detewe.de (unverified) by dtwse201.detewe.de (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:09:35 +0200 Received: from detewe.de ([172.30.200.43]) by zinse043.detewe.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA2C30 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:09:24 +0200 Message-ID: <39B3AD7C.B8D971A6@detewe.de> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 16:11:08 +0200 From: "Michael Wiedmann" Organization: Cordless Technology X-Sender: "Michael Wiedmann" (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? References: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id JAA22896 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Martin Schröder wrote: > On 2000-09-04 13:43:12 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > > yes pdftex is under GPL. I am considering to make it "more free", but > > probably later when I have more time. ... > The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a > PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL (we would have > to GPL our whole workflow, which is impossible). LGPL would be > the best for us. I don't agree with this opinion! As long as you use pdfTeX in a workflow only as a tool (and don't use the source files) you can of course use GPLed software without having to GPL your own software. You certainly use a lot of FSF software all day long (gcc, less, emacs, etc.). Michael -- Michael Wiedmann, Berlin 4-Sep-2000 15:05:35-GMT,1900;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06060 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:05:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22959 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:25:09 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22956 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:25:05 -0400 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13VxI9-0000BC-00; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 15:32:09 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13VxI9-0007Bf-00; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:32:09 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <14771.45682.493677.111667@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:32:18 +0100 (BST) To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? In-Reply-To: <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by tug.org id JAA22957 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Martin Schröder writes: > The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a > PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL (we would have > to GPL our whole workflow, which is impossible). this would exclude any use of web2c-based TeX, wouldn't it? can that conceivably be true? sebastian 4-Sep-2000 15:38:34-GMT,2990;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06662 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23050 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:59:03 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23047 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:58:56 -0400 Received: from max104.public.ox.ac.uk (max104.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.104]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA08357; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:05:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:04:48 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? In-Reply-To: <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Martin Schröder wrote: > On 2000-09-04 13:43:12 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > > > P.S.: systems/pdftex/README on ctan mentions the GPL as license. > > > Is this correct? > > > > yes pdftex is under GPL. I am considering to make it "more free", but > > probably later when I have more time. The GPL says that to put a program under GPL one should If the program is interactive, make it output a short notice like this when it starts in an interactive mode: Gnomovision version 69, Copyright (C) year name of author Gnomovision comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `show w'. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `show c' for details. ... and pdftex does not do that. There are binary versions out there whose users will have no idea of the license, and I think whose distributors do not either, as I don't see the offers of source code that GPL requires on some sites. So I was a bit surprised. > Good. > The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a > PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL (we would have > to GPL our whole workflow, which is impossible). LGPL would be > the best for us. What's a workflow in this context? As I understand the term I don't see a problem. (You can sell a multi-filter Unix pipeline some of the filters being GPL, as I understand it, and indeed I have bought examples of such pipelines.) -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 4-Sep-2000 15:38:52-GMT,2193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06679 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:38:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23041 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:57:46 -0400 Received: from nagmx1.nag.co.uk (nagmx1.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23038 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:57:40 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@hereford.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.112]) by nagmx1.nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28010; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:04:39 +0100 (BST) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32544; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:11:21 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:11:21 GMT Message-Id: <200009041611.QAA32544@nag.co.uk> X-Authentication-Warning: hereford.nag.co.uk: davidc set sender to davidc@nag.co.uk using -f From: David Carlisle To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= on Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:54:38 +0200) Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? References: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a > PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL Note that there is GPL code pretty much everywere in the web2c distribution (in particular kpathsea) bash$ tex --version TeX (Web2C 7.3.2x) 3.14159 kpathsea version 3.3.2x Copyright (C) 1999 D.E. Knuth. Kpathsea is copyright (C) 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc. There is NO warranty. Redistribution of this software is covered by the terms of both the TeX copyright and the GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the files named COPYING and the TeX source. Primary author of TeX: D.E. Knuth. Kpathsea written by Karl Berry and others. So avoiding GPL code may be quite hard if you want to use a web2c based tex at all. David 4-Sep-2000 15:39:22-GMT,1750;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06701 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:39:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23068 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:00:33 -0400 Received: from nagmx1.nag.co.uk (nagmx1.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23065 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:00:28 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@hereford.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.112]) by nagmx1.nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28067; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:07:30 +0100 (BST) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32548; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:14:12 GMT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:14:12 GMT Message-Id: <200009041614.QAA32548@nag.co.uk> X-Authentication-Warning: hereford.nag.co.uk: davidc set sender to davidc@nag.co.uk using -f From: David Carlisle To: oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.20000831202407.54ef5836@localhost> (message from Heiko Oberdiek on Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:24:07 +0200) Subject: Re: hyperref for local files References: <3.0.1.16.20000829211003.3bbf4412@localhost> <3.0.1.16.20000831202407.54ef5836@localhost> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > The reason is, that \@hyper@linkfile adds ".\XR@ext" (= ".pdf") > to files, which does not have an extension. Because I do not > know the reason for this behaviour, I will not change this. I think (from rather fading memory) there was an idea that you'd want to link to xxx in your tex source and have the (hyper-)dvi version link to xxx.dvi and the xxx.pdf version link to pdf. David 4-Sep-2000 15:42:37-GMT,2415;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06777 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:42:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23079 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:02:33 -0400 Received: from mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (mx1.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.112.76]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23076 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:02:32 -0400 Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27698 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hunt108-151.optonline.net (d35-117.hntnny.optonline.net [24.188.35.117]) by s1.optonline.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e84F9fx16198 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ats@localhost) by hunt108-151.optonline.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e84F9ec06897; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:09:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: wesley.springies.com: ats set sender to ats@acm.org using -f To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? References: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <39B3AD7C.B8D971A6@detewe.de> Mail-Copies-To: nobody From: Alan Shutko Date: 04 Sep 2000 10:55:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Michael Wiedmann"'s message of "Mon, 04 Sep 2000 16:11:08 +0200" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 16 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "Michael Wiedmann" writes: > As long as you use pdfTeX in a workflow only as a tool (and don't use > the source files) you can of course use GPLed software without having > to GPL your own software. In more detail, you can integrate a GPLed tool into an automated system without license concerns as long as you call to it over executable boundaries. If there is a libpdftex which you would be using, you would need lgpl, but just calling the pdftex executable is fine. (As per RMS, at least.) -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! 68 days, 41 minutes, 1 seconds till we run away. It's not the fall that kills you, it's the landing. 4-Sep-2000 15:51:45-GMT,3230;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06951 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:51:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23099 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:12:24 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23096 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:12:22 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13Vy7W-0002iX-00; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:25:14 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA10389; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:18:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13Vy08-004wwQC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:17:36 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:17:36 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list , Peter Funk Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? Message-ID: <20000904171736.F16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: Sebastian Rahtz , PDF-TeX mailing list , Peter Funk References: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <14771.45682.493677.111667@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14771.45682.493677.111667@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk>; from sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:32:18PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-09-04 15:32:18 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Martin Schröder writes: > > The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a > > PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL (we would have > > to GPL our whole workflow, which is impossible). > > this would exclude any use of web2c-based TeX, wouldn't it? can that > conceivably be true? b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License. Given a software package where a unmodified GPLed binary is used as a central part of the package: Must the whole package be GPLed or not? I.e. is using unmodified binaries "contains" or "derived from"? AFAIK GPLed software taints everything which uses it; that's why e.g. the libc is under LGPL. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 4-Sep-2000 15:55:30-GMT,4064;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07050 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:55:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23108 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:16:29 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23105 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:16:27 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13VyBT-0002k8-00; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:29:19 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA10461; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:23:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13Vy4q-004wwQC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:22:28 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:22:28 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: Prof Brian D Ripley Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? Message-ID: <20000904172228.G16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: Prof Brian D Ripley , PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:04:48PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-09-04 16:04:48 +0100, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote: > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Martin Schröder wrote: > > On 2000-09-04 13:43:12 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > > > > P.S.: systems/pdftex/README on ctan mentions the GPL as license. > > > > Is this correct? > > > > > > yes pdftex is under GPL. I am considering to make it "more free", but > > > probably later when I have more time. > > The GPL says that to put a program under GPL one should > > If the program is interactive, make it output a short notice like > this when it starts in an interactive mode: > > Gnomovision version 69, Copyright (C) year name of author > Gnomovision comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type > `show w'. This is free software, and you are welcome to > redistribute it under certain conditions; type `show c' for > details. > ... > > and pdftex does not do that. There are binary versions out there > whose users will have no idea of the license, and I think whose > distributors do not either, as I don't see the offers of source code > that GPL requires on some sites. So I was a bit surprised. Small wonder. AFAIK the only place where a GPL license and pdfTeX are together is on CTAN; I found nothing in ftp://ftp.muni.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/ > > Good. > > The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a > > PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL (we would have > > to GPL our whole workflow, which is impossible). LGPL would be > > the best for us. > > What's a workflow in this context? As I understand the term Software produces a description of files (pdf, tiff, etc.) to be combined. The combining is done by pdfTeX. The resulting pdf is further processed. Can the software be non-GPL? > I don't see a problem. (You can sell a multi-filter Unix pipeline > some of the filters being GPL, as I understand it, and indeed I > have bought examples of such pipelines.) GPL or LPGL? Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 4-Sep-2000 16:15:49-GMT,2373;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07456 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:15:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23182 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:34:48 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23179 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:34:47 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.141.47]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAG244F; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:41:44 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000904173016.019e19a0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 17:30:16 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? Cc: pdfTeX In-Reply-To: <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id KAA23180 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 01:54 PM 9/4/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-09-04 13:43:12 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: >> > P.S.: systems/pdftex/README on ctan mentions the GPL as license. >> > Is this correct? >> >> yes pdftex is under GPL. I am considering to make it "more free", but >> probably later when I have more time. > >Good. >The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a >PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL (we would have >to GPL our whole workflow, which is impossible). LGPL would be >the best for us. Isn't LGPL more restrictive that GPL? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Sep-2000 17:19:29-GMT,2515;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08726 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:19:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23294 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:27:51 -0400 Received: from mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (mx1.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.112.76]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23288 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:27:49 -0400 Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22699 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hunt108-151.optonline.net (d35-117.hntnny.optonline.net [24.188.35.117]) by s1.optonline.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e84GYwx22515 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ats@localhost) by hunt108-151.optonline.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e84GYqW07093; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:34:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: wesley.springies.com: ats set sender to ats@acm.org using -f To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? References: <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20000904172228.G16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Copies-To: nobody From: Alan Shutko Date: 04 Sep 2000 12:30:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?q?Schr=F6der's?= message of "Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:22:28 +0200" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Lines: 16 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA23290 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Martin Schröder writes: > Software produces a description of files (pdf, tiff, etc.) to be > combined. The combining is done by pdfTeX. The resulting pdf is > further processed. Can the software be non-GPL? Yes. Just as you can do whatever you want with GNU Cat. The GPL only covers modifications whose source has been combined. Furthermore, if it's an internal workflow, you can do whatever you want. The GPL only comes into play when you distribute binaries. -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! 67 days, 23 hours, 6 minutes, 17 seconds till we run away. Desist from enumerating your fowl prior to their emergence from the shell. 4-Sep-2000 17:19:34-GMT,2624;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08732 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23295 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:27:53 -0400 Received: from mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (mx1.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.112.76]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23289 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:27:49 -0400 Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22701 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hunt108-151.optonline.net (d35-117.hntnny.optonline.net [24.188.35.117]) by s1.optonline.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e84GYwx22516 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ats@localhost) by hunt108-151.optonline.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e84GYqr07094; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:34:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: wesley.springies.com: ats set sender to ats@acm.org using -f To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? References: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <14771.45682.493677.111667@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20000904171736.F16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Copies-To: nobody From: Alan Shutko Date: 04 Sep 2000 12:34:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?q?Schr=F6der's?= message of "Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:17:36 +0200" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Lines: 20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA23292 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Martin Schröder writes: > Given a software package where a unmodified GPLed binary is used > as a central part of the package: Must the whole package be GPLed > or not? I.e. is using unmodified binaries "contains" or "derived > from"? No. > AFAIK GPLed software taints everything which uses it; that's why > e.g. the libc is under LGPL. That's a common misconception. It's not "taints everything that uses the program", it's "Taints everything which links with the source into an executable." -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! 67 days, 23 hours, 4 minutes, 21 seconds till we run away. Some marriages are made in heaven -- but so are thunder and lightning. 4-Sep-2000 17:39:25-GMT,1650;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09094 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:39:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23328 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:48:10 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23325 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:48:05 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11915; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:55:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00789; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:55:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200009041655.SAA00789@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: working example.tex? In-Reply-To: <20000904160143.C16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= at "Sep 4, 0 04:01:43 pm" To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:55:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > the example.tex distributed with teTeX in texmf/doc/pdftex/ is > quite old (1998-03-22) and doesn't work with 0.14f anymore. Is > there a working version somewhere? yes its replacement is ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/samplepdf.zip Regards, Thanh 4-Sep-2000 18:08:31-GMT,3925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09652 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23442 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:16:21 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23439 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:16:18 -0400 Received: from max131.public.ox.ac.uk (max131.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.131]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA08798; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:23:23 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:22:16 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= cc: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? In-Reply-To: <20000904172228.G16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Martin Schröder wrote: > On 2000-09-04 16:04:48 +0100, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Martin Schröder wrote: > > > On 2000-09-04 13:43:12 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > > > > > P.S.: systems/pdftex/README on ctan mentions the GPL as license. > > > > > Is this correct? > > > > > > > > yes pdftex is under GPL. I am considering to make it "more free", but > > > > probably later when I have more time. > > > > The GPL says that to put a program under GPL one should > > > > If the program is interactive, make it output a short notice like > > this when it starts in an interactive mode: > > > > Gnomovision version 69, Copyright (C) year name of author > > Gnomovision comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type > > `show w'. This is free software, and you are welcome to > > redistribute it under certain conditions; type `show c' for > > details. > > ... > > > > and pdftex does not do that. There are binary versions out there > > whose users will have no idea of the license, and I think whose > > distributors do not either, as I don't see the offers of source code > > that GPL requires on some sites. So I was a bit surprised. > > Small wonder. AFAIK the only place where a GPL license and pdfTeX > are together is on CTAN; I found nothing in > ftp://ftp.muni.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/ > > > > Good. > > > The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a > > > PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL (we would have > > > to GPL our whole workflow, which is impossible). LGPL would be > > > the best for us. > > > > What's a workflow in this context? As I understand the term > > Software produces a description of files (pdf, tiff, etc.) to be > combined. The combining is done by pdfTeX. The resulting pdf is > further processed. Can the software be non-GPL? > > > I don't see a problem. (You can sell a multi-filter Unix pipeline > > some of the filters being GPL, as I understand it, and indeed I > > have bought examples of such pipelines.) > > GPL or LPGL? GPL if you just pipe between executables. LGPL if you link to libraries. > > Best regards > Martin > -- > Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE > ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen > Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 > -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 4-Sep-2000 20:00:09-GMT,1877;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11821 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:00:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23685 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:07:46 -0400 Received: from mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu (mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu [128.146.214.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23682 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:07:45 -0400 Received: from pviton (ts24-2.homenet.ohio-state.edu [140.254.113.201]) by mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA26299; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20000904150802.009b85d0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: pviton@pop.service.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 15:08:02 -0300 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "Philip A. Viton" Subject: graphics inclusion on win32 systems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk A few days ago I sent a message asking if anyone could see what I was doing wrong with pdftex graphics inclusion. I was then using Fabrice Popineau's stand-alone pdftex; I've now gotten MikTeX's version (miktex 1.20e) working, and the same thing happens: the pdftex compiler runs, there seem to be no errors, but the graphic is not in the pdf. This happens with both a .jpg and with a .png file. Pdftex-14.e for both stand-alone and for Miktex. Is there anyone running pdftex on a win32 system, and would you be willing to test graphics inclusion for me and let me know what the result is? Thanks! ------------------------ Philip A. Viton City Planning, Ohio State University 190 W. 17th Ave,Columbus OH 43210 viton.1@osu.edu 4-Sep-2000 22:48:21-GMT,2322;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15052 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:48:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24038 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:54:58 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA24035 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 16:54:56 -0400 Received: from remote142-153.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.153] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13W4JX-00066k-00; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 00:02:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000904234736.29c72bfa@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 23:47:36 +0200 To: "Philip A. Viton" , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: graphics inclusion In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.20000831120913.00918100@pop.service.ohio-state.ed u> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:09 31.08.2000 -0300, Philip A. Viton wrote: > >Can someone pinpoint what I'm doing wrong here? For the short tex file >below, and pdftex 14e for win32 systems, the source is file is processed >without apparent errors, but no graphic is displayed. >\RequirePackage{graphicx} >\includegraphics[% >natheight=2.751in, >natwidth=4.599in, >height=2.751in, >width=4.599in] >{winston.jpg} Thanks for the bug report. The keys "natheight" and "natwidth" are not used by the pdftex driver and have to be disabled by pdftex.def. This code, however, contains a bug: \usepackage{graphicx} loads keyval.sty loads graphics.sty loads pdftex.def \define@key{Gin}{natheight}{} ... Definition of natheight and natwidth ==> The code in pdftex.def has no effect. I have fixed pdftex.def so, that the redefinition is always done at begin of document. http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def (Without natheight and natwidth or if package color is loaded before graphicx all should be ok.) Yours sincerely Heiko 4-Sep-2000 23:05:31-GMT,1807;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15396 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:05:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24064 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:14:34 -0400 Received: from mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu (mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu [128.146.214.32]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24061 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:14:33 -0400 Received: from pviton (ts24-2.homenet.ohio-state.edu [140.254.113.201]) by mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA14406; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.20000904181859.009169e0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: pviton@pop.service.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 18:18:59 -0300 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "Philip A. Viton" Subject: graphics inclusion on win32 systems - SOLVED Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Many thanks to all who responded with offers to help! The consensus seemed to be that if I removed the "natheight" and "natwidth" keys from the \includegraphics statement, it should work -- but not for me: removing these generated a latex error. But Heiko Oberdiek sent me a reference to a new version of pdftex.def, available at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def and with this, the graphic is correctly included, with or without the two "nat" keys. So the problem is solved -- thanks again to all! ------------------------ Philip A. Viton City Planning, Ohio State University 190 W. 17th Ave,Columbus OH 43210 viton.1@osu.edu 5-Sep-2000 4:46:55-GMT,2094;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21602 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:46:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24402 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:46:59 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA24399 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 21:46:54 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (root@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA03774; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:26:36 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:cvr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA01119; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:18:56 +0530 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:18:56 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Sebastian Rahtz cc: ms@artcom-gmbh.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? In-Reply-To: <14771.45682.493677.111667@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: : Martin Schröder writes: : > The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a : > PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL (we would have : > to GPL our whole workflow, which is impossible). : : this would exclude any use of web2c-based TeX, wouldn't it? can that : conceivably be true? Martin puts forth very strange theories! My company relies on free software alone (not necessarily all of them are GPL) -- Linux, TeX, pdfTeX, Emacs, Java, PostgreSQL, and scores of others. Does he mean that all the forty and odd guys working here shall starve just because we use open source software? Doesn't it tantamount to human rights violation? -- Radhakrishnan 5-Sep-2000 8:16:38-GMT,2431;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA25703 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 02:16:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24896 for pdftex-list; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 02:31:38 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24893 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 02:31:35 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13WDPC-0000zH-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:44:30 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id JAA18413 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:36:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13WDGU-004wwQC; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:35:30 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:35:30 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? Message-ID: <20000905093530.H16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20000904172228.G16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ats@acm.org on Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:30:28PM -0400 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-09-04 12:30:28 -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > Yes. Just as you can do whatever you want with GNU Cat. The GPL only > covers modifications whose source has been combined. Good. Sorry for all the confusion. > Furthermore, if it's an internal workflow, you can do whatever you > want. The GPL only comes into play when you distribute binaries. Which we want. The idea is to sell software. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 5-Sep-2000 12:44:36-GMT,4851;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00348 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 06:44:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA25493 for pdftex-list; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 06:56:16 -0400 Received: from dns.cce.de (root@dns.cce.de [195.4.33.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25490 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 06:56:14 -0400 Received: from work2.cce.de (root@work2.cce.de [195.4.33.24]) by dns.cce.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01744 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:03:26 +0200 Received: from fwsrv1.matzner.de (fwsrv1.cce.de [1.2.64.1]) by work2.cce.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16900 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:03:32 +0200 Received: from mailhost1.matzner.de (srv1.matzner.de [1.1.65.5]) by fwsrv1.matzner.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17773 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:03:02 +0200 Received: from matzner.de by mailhost1.matzner.de (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA46272 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:02:33 +0200 Message-ID: <39B4E148.212D43FB@matzner.de> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 14:04:24 +0200 From: Thomas Hof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; AIX 4.3) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFTeX Mailingliste Subject: Problems with fonts pcrr... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'm using TeX-Live CD from March 2000. I've got a problem with Courier fonts. The message I get when I compile my test file is: ----- This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000313 (Web2c 7.3.1x) (test.tex{d:/Local/TeX/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1999/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, french, german, ngerman, uk english, dumylang, nohyphenation, loaded. (d:/Local/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/09/10 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (d:/Local/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (d:/Local/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/german/german.sty v2.5e 1998-07-08) (d:/Local/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/pslatex/pslatex.sty) (d:/Local/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/times.sty) (test.aux) (d:/Local/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/omspzccm.fd) (d:/Local/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/ot1ptmcm.fd) (d:/Local/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/omlptmcm.fd) (d:/Local/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/omxpsycm.fd) [1{d:/Local/TeX/texmf/pdftex/ config/psfonts.map Warning: pdflatex.exe (file d:/Local/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map): inva lid entry for `pcrr8rn': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1 fonts Warning: pdflatex.exe (file d:/Local/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map): inva lid entry for `pcrro8r': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1 fonts }{d:/Local/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/lw35.map}{d:/Local/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/r awfonts.map}{d:/Local/TeX/texmf/dvips/cspsfonts/csfontd.mapfile}] (test.aux ) ) Warning: pdflatex.exe (file pcrro8r): Font pcrro8r at 600 not found {d:/Local/TeX/texmf/dvips/base/8r.enc} Warning: pdflatex.exe (file pcrr8rn): Font pcrr8rn at 600 not found Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 8197 bytes). Transcript written on test.log. ----- Inside the psfonts.map file I've written the constructs pcrr8rn Courier ".85 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc and pcrro8r Courier-Oblique ".85 ExtendFont ..." The problem is that the system always uses bitmapped fonts inside the PDF output instead the PostScript equivalents I want to use! And these fonts are a bit wider than wanted (resp. known by TeX through its font descriptions). The pcrr8rn modification is made according to the specification in the file pcrr8rn.map of the distribution. The pcrro8r line was built in with the same aim. If I insert the modifications it results in the upper shown message and the fact that Acrobat has problems to show the contents correctly (when looking into the file with Acrobat (Reader) it says that something is wrong and cannot be shown - it breaks work with the first attempt to show the Courier characters... With hope for fast help... Thomas -- Dipl.-Math. 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DAU ==> GAU Das Schöne an Standards ist: Es gibt so viele davon!!! 5-Sep-2000 16:27:51-GMT,2751;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06423 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:27:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26048 for pdftex-list; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:46:39 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26045 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:46:37 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id RAA09390; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:53:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id RAA19271; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:53:14 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:53:14 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200009051553.RAA19271@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Thomas Hof Cc: PDFTeX Mailingliste Subject: Re: Problems with fonts pcrr... In-Reply-To: <39B4E148.212D43FB@matzner.de> References: <39B4E148.212D43FB@matzner.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » Warning: pdflatex.exe (file » d:/Local/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map): inva » lid entry for `pcrr8rn': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with » embedded T1 » fonts » » Warning: pdflatex.exe (file » d:/Local/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map): inva » lid entry for `pcrro8r': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with » embedded T1 » fonts That's quite explicit: you can't extend or slant a font in pdftex if it's not embedded. But Courier should not be embedded (it's `resident' in acrobat products). So these lines are ignored, and pdftex uses the PK if available on your system. » Inside the psfonts.map file I've written the constructs » » pcrr8rn Courier ".85 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc » » and » » pcrro8r Courier-Oblique ".85 ExtendFont ..." sure about that line?? this should describe some narrow version of Courier-Oblique, but i don't have that on my computer... You could try, assuming you own the Courier font & it's called pcrr8a.pfb on your system: pcrr8rn Courier ".85 ExtendFont " <8r.enc Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09678 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:07:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26377 for pdftex-list; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:25:40 -0400 Received: from eiismtp.electricimg.com (electricimg.com [199.35.234.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26374 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:25:38 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (ip81.electricimg.com [199.35.234.81] (may be forged)) by eiismtp.electricimg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10477 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:40:13 -0700 Message-ID: <39B52F2A.50A64C7@csee.usf.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:36:42 -0700 From: Himanshu Gohel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFTeX Mailingliste Subject: Re: Problems with fonts pcrr... References: <39B4E148.212D43FB@matzner.de> <200009051553.RAA19271@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > > » Warning: pdflatex.exe (file > » d:/Local/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map): inva > » lid entry for `pcrro8r': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with > » embedded T1 fonts > > That's quite explicit: you can't extend or slant a font in pdftex if > it's not embedded. But Courier should not be embedded (it's `resident' > in acrobat products). So these lines are ignored, and pdftex uses the > PK if available on your system. The error message is explicit in what the issue is, but to font novices myself and perhaps the original poster, what to do about such error messages is the question. So more appropriately, what should be the change in the LaTeX file, or in the TeX installation to avoid such errors? For example, recently I compiled pdftex 14f and installed it on my teTeX 1.0.6 and got tons of messages about fonts. Not knowing what to do about them, I took the new ...dvips/config/pdftex.map out and replaced it with the original, which got rid of the warnings/errors. The new and original files were vastly different, and I would not even know where to begin. Himanshu 6-Sep-2000 6:38:19-GMT,3932;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27101 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:38:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28689 for pdftex-list; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:47:40 -0400 Received: from dns.cce.de (root@dns.cce.de [195.4.33.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28686 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:47:38 -0400 Received: from work2.cce.de (root@work2.cce.de [195.4.33.24]) by dns.cce.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08858 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:54:52 +0200 Received: from fwsrv1.matzner.de (fwsrv1.cce.de [1.2.64.1]) by work2.cce.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18723 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:54:58 +0200 Received: from mailhost1.matzner.de (srv1.matzner.de [1.1.65.5]) by fwsrv1.matzner.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19335 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:54:28 +0200 Received: from matzner.de by mailhost1.matzner.de (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id HAA26698 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:53:59 +0200 Message-ID: <39B5DC69.F6F81868@matzner.de> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 07:55:53 +0200 From: Thomas Hof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; AIX 4.3) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFTeX Mailingliste Subject: Re: Problems with fonts pcrr... References: <39B4E148.212D43FB@matzner.de> <200009051553.RAA19271@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > > » Warning: pdflatex.exe (file > » d:/Local/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map): inva > » lid entry for `pcrr8rn': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with > » embedded T1 > » fonts > » > » Warning: pdflatex.exe (file > » d:/Local/TeX/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map): inva > » lid entry for `pcrro8r': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with > » embedded T1 > » fonts > > That's quite explicit: you can't extend or slant a font in pdftex if > it's not embedded. But Courier should not be embedded (it's `resident' > in acrobat products). So these lines are ignored, and pdftex uses the > PK if available on your system. .. and that looks very poor... > > » Inside the psfonts.map file I've written the constructs > » > » pcrr8rn Courier ".85 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > » > » and > » > » pcrro8r Courier-Oblique ".85 ExtendFont ..." > sure about that line?? this should describe some narrow version of > Courier-Oblique, but i don't have that on my computer... It was only a try... In my previews I saw that the fonts listed above were too wide, so I thought it would be a good idea to narrow them - not knowing the exact details of this process... > So compress something else than Courier, like cmtt! In my TeX source file now I wrote \renewcommand{\ttdefault}{cmtt} and now it works. A former try of mine in that direction was one character too short: I tried cmt :-( I think for the first time I will work with the construct above - in spite of knowing that the resulting pdf file is larger than with the internal Courier fonts (my aim is to reduce size of the result as much as possible because I want to present many files in the internet) Thanx, Thomas -- Dipl.-Math. Thomas Hof // System-Administrator | +49-(0)541-59905-782 Horst Matzner Fertigungstechnik GmbH & Co. KG | fax +49-(0)541-59905-179 Industriestraße 28 | mailto:thof@matzner.de D-49082 Osnabrück, Germany | http://www.matzner.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wer einem Computer Unsinn eingibt, muß immer damit rechnen! DAU ==> GAU Das Schöne an Standards ist: Es gibt so viele davon!!! 6-Sep-2000 9:26:13-GMT,1772;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA29618 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:26:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA28911 for pdftex-list; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:43:35 -0400 Received: from dsgt.demon.co.uk (dsgt.demon.co.uk [158.152.245.107]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28908 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 03:43:32 -0400 Received: from dsgt (Administrators@localhost) by dsgt.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00184 for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:51:13 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: "Flt Lt J W R Martin" To: Subject: Newbie question: upgrading pdfTeX in fpTeX for Win32 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:51:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c017df$9c6c6830$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id DAA28909 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have downloaded the latest (14f) pdftex in order to upgrade my fpTeX installation. I found where to put pdftex.exe, pdfetex.exe and their pool files but the new files are significantly different in size to the old ones, and there is no change to pdflatex (which is actually what I use). How do I update my TeX installation once I've got the files in the right place? Sorry if this is on the www somewhere; I couldn't find it! John Martin 6-Sep-2000 14:35:34-GMT,2461;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04549 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:35:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA29308 for pdftex-list; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:48:00 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29305 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:47:54 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id PAA08364 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:55:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id PAA10322; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:52:58 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:52:58 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200009061352.PAA10322@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Himanshu Gohel Cc: PDFTeX Mailingliste Subject: Re: Problems with fonts pcrr... In-Reply-To: <39B52F2A.50A64C7@csee.usf.edu> References: <39B4E148.212D43FB@matzner.de> <200009051553.RAA19271@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <39B52F2A.50A64C7@csee.usf.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » For example, recently I compiled pdftex 14f and installed it on » my teTeX 1.0.6 and got tons of messages about fonts. Not knowing » what to do about them, I took the new ...dvips/config/pdftex.map out » and replaced it with the original, which got rid of the warnings/errors. » The new and original files were vastly different, and I would not » even know where to begin. the pdftex manual describes at length the fontmap file format. You typically have tons of font warnings when you load twice the same map file (e.g. when you load your own psfonts.map + the standard pdftex map files). Most of them are harmless. If you get an 'invalid pdf file, missing resource' from acrobat, then you presumably have a font missing in some map file, or something is really wrong... Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 6-Sep-2000 14:49:20-GMT,2384;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04851 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:49:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA29341 for pdftex-list; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:08:45 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29338 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 09:08:43 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id QAA09632; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:15:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id QAA11005; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:15:47 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:15:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200009061415.QAA11005@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: "Flt Lt J W R Martin" Cc: Subject: Re: Newbie question: upgrading pdfTeX in fpTeX for Win32 In-Reply-To: <000701c017df$9c6c6830$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> References: <000701c017df$9c6c6830$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » I have downloaded the latest (14f) pdftex in order to upgrade my » fpTeX installation. Where? the fptex does a clever thing, similar to symbolic links in unix: the pdftex engine is indeed a dll, the exe files are only wrappers that launch the dll, the executable name being used to determine which format to load. So updating an existing fptex should only consist in the dll file. For instance, pdflatex.exe and pdftex.exe should be the same file, only the name changing. If you download thanh's .exe for windows, then pdftex and pdfetex are 2 standalone binaries, you need to rebuild your formats, and call "pdftex &pdflatex " (you can make a pdflatex.bat) but the fptex pdflatex.exe will of course the pdflatex.dll that didn't change. Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 6-Sep-2000 16:29:38-GMT,1725;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07554 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:29:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29486 for pdftex-list; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:48:03 -0400 Received: from coreserver.core.ucl.ac.be (coreserver.core.ucl.ac.be [130.104.4.39]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29483 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:48:01 -0400 Received: from core.ucl.ac.be ([130.104.121.62]) by coreserver.core.ucl.ac.be (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 313; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:00:03 +0200 Message-ID: <39B668DC.69020EF@core.ucl.ac.be> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:55:08 +0200 From: jfm Reply-To: jfm@core.ucl.ac.be Organization: CORE, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Universit=E9?= Catholique de Louvain X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en,en-US,fr-FR,fr,fr-BE,fr-CH,fr-CA,es,es-ES,es-AR,es-CO,es-MX,nl,nl-BE,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org CC: thof@matzner.de Subject: Problems with fonts pcrr... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id KAA29484 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I solved this problem here with in pdftex.map lines like pcrr8rn ".85 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10733 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:10:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29619 for pdftex-list; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:02:12 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29616 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:02:10 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28890; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:09:26 -0400 (EDT) To: Erik Frisk Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Compiling from sources References: From: Ed L Cashin Date: 06 Sep 2000 13:09:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: Erik Frisk's message of "Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:26:01 +0200 (MET DST)" Message-ID: Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Erik Frisk writes: > This may be a stupid question but I'll ask anyway. I have always upgraded > from binaries, but this weekend I compiled pdftex from sources. The > compilation went fine, but I wonder: In the binary distribution you get > the following files (in e.g. pdftex-20000525-solaris.zip): > pdfetex* pdfetex.pool pdftex* pdftex.pool pdftosrc* > ttf2afm > > Make pdftex does not produce all these files (only pdftex and > pdftex.pool as far as I can see). So, when compiling from > sources, how do you go about producing all those files (assuming all need > updating). If you go to the web2c directory (tetex-supp/src/texk/web2c) and type "make pdfetex" (note it's "etex" and not just "tex"), then I think you'll get what you want. I hear that the readme for the pdftex sources will soon include this step. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 6-Sep-2000 18:37:42-GMT,1853;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11560 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:37:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29634 for pdftex-list; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:21:43 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29631 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:21:42 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01158; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:28:57 -0400 (EDT) To: Michel Bovani Cc: "Mark Michaelian" , Subject: Re: Newbie having trouble getting pdftex to work References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ed L Cashin Date: 06 Sep 2000 13:28:57 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Michel Bovani writes: > At 12:38 -0700 24/08/00, Mark Michaelian wrote: > >! Undefined control sequence. > >l.67 \pdfthreadhoffset > > =1em % thread margins > This primitive have been removed in pdftex 014 > > You have probably to update your sample file. Who can remove this example.tex file from the major distribution channels? It is a great source of confusion, and it unfairly makes pdftex look bad to new users. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 7-Sep-2000 7:16:52-GMT,1491;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00490 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 01:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA30576 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:45:53 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA30573 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:45:50 -0400 Received: from remote142-135.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.135] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13WucW-0001Ar-00; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:53:08 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000907074650.10f7a098@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 07:46:50 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Launch application with options under Unix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, does someone know, how can I start an application under Unix (Linux) with parameters? Until now I can only start programs with full path and without parameters, eg: /S /Launch /F (/usr/bin/X11/xterm) An /P key in the /Unix dictionary seems not to work. My aim is to add parameters, for example: -e joe +10 test.tex Regards Heiko 7-Sep-2000 9:07:14-GMT,1924;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA02335 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:07:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30658 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 02:46:13 -0400 Received: from dtwse201.detewe.de ([195.50.171.201]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA30655 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 02:46:09 -0400 Received: from zinse043.detewe.de (unverified) by dtwse201.detewe.de (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:54:17 +0200 Received: from detewe.de ([172.30.200.43]) by zinse043.detewe.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA35EE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:53:13 +0200 Message-ID: <39B749CE.8B0DCAF7@detewe.de> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 09:54:54 +0200 From: "Michael Wiedmann" Organization: Cordless Technology X-Sender: "Michael Wiedmann" (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix References: <3.0.1.16.20000907074650.10f7a098@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek wrote: ... > does someone know, how can I start an application > under Unix (Linux) with parameters? ... > An /P key in the /Unix dictionary seems not to work. The PDF Reference Manual Version 1.2 states that the UNIX key for Unix system launches (chapter 6.9.4, table 6.26) is not yet defined, so there might be no way to do what you want :-( Maybe this has changed in PDF 1.3? Michael -- Michael Wiedmann, Berlin 7-Sep-2000 9:38:27-GMT,2445;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA02891 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:38:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30925 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:53:13 -0400 Received: from ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.20.3]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA30922 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:53:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (jasonw@localhost) by ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05786 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:58:27 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:58:27 +1100 (EST) From: Jason White To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: PDFTeX and logical structure in PDF Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk PDF version 1.3 allows the logical structure of a document, independently of its visual presentation, to be captured in a PDF file, via a hierarchy of structural elements. This new feature of the format is defined in the PDF Reference, 2nd ed., July 2000, in section 8.4.3. Is there any interest in implementing an option in PDFTeX that would allow the logical structure of a TeX (or more likely a LaTeX) document to be preserved in the PDF output? My personal interest in structured PDF arises from involvement in issues surrounding the accessibility of electronic documents to people with disabilities. However, I am sure there are other uses which could be found for structured PDF documents. Due to a lack of programming expertise combined with heavy commitments, I am unfortunately not in a position to participate directly in the development of such software, but if anyone is searching for an interesting project, it might be a possibility--unless of course the developers of PDFTeX have already placed it on their agenda. Incidentally, I use PDFTeX regularly with the excellent HyperRef package by Sebastian Rahtz. Of course, to ensure that the resulting documents are accessible to people with disabilities, I can readily create an HTML version from the same LaTeX source; but it would also be convenient for authors to be able to incorporate the logical structure directly into the PDF file. 7-Sep-2000 9:39:59-GMT,2048;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA02927 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:39:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30941 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:59:14 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com ([210.212.246.88]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA30938 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 03:59:00 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (root@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01034; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:38:12 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:cvr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01654; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:30:29 +0530 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:30:29 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Heiko Oberdiek cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000907074650.10f7a098@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: : does someone know, how can I start an application : under Unix (Linux) with parameters? : : Until now I can only start programs with full path : and without parameters, eg: : : /S /Launch /F (/usr/bin/X11/xterm) : : An /P key in the /Unix dictionary seems not to work. : : My aim is to add parameters, for example: : -e joe +10 test.tex Heiko, It simply does not work. I have been trying this for quite a long time now. \href{run:/usr/X11R6/bin/gvim#manual.tex}% {\fboxsep3pt\fboxrule1pt\color{red}\shadowbox{Edit the file}} This starts only the gvim, but the file is not loaded. But if I use a script of course, it does. If you find a way out, please tell me too. -- Radhakrishnan 7-Sep-2000 10:31:16-GMT,1829;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA03783 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:31:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA31007 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:41:19 -0400 Received: from Millenium.kabsi.at (radio.kabsi.at [195.202.128.3]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA31004 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:41:16 -0400 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by Millenium.kabsi.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA04658; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:48:00 +0200 Message-ID: <001d01c018b1$17c77700$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: , "Heiko Oberdiek" References: <3.0.1.16.20000907074650.10f7a098@localhost> Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:50:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > does someone know, how can I start an application > under Unix (Linux) with parameters? > An /P key in the /Unix dictionary seems not to work. The PDFSPEC manual (Version 1.3) says on page 112 (6.8.4 Launch action): Win dictionary (Optional) Windows-specific launch parameters as described in Table 6.41. Unix undefined (Optional) Not yet defined. Mac undefined (Optional) Not yet defined. and the /P key is described in Table 6.41. So I does not work under Unix and possibly neither under Linux. Ciao Andreas 7-Sep-2000 11:14:38-GMT,1433;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04516 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 05:14:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA31086 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 05:30:54 -0400 Received: from Millenium.kabsi.at (radio.kabsi.at [195.202.128.3]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA31083 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 05:30:52 -0400 Received: from gobin (cm.med.3284842061.kabelnet.net [195.202.182.77]) by Millenium.kabsi.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA12495 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:37:37 +0200 Message-ID: <00df01c018b8$06404be0$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> From: "Andreas Matthias" To: References: <3.0.1.16.20000907074650.10f7a098@localhost> <001d01c018b1$17c77700$4db6cac3@kabsi.at> Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:40:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Andreas Matthias wrote: > So I does not work under Unix and possibly neither under Linux. ^^^ Should be `it' of course. Sorry. Andreas 7-Sep-2000 12:31:19-GMT,2319;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05773 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:31:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA31137 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:32:28 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA31134 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:32:26 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13X07S-0001PO-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:45:26 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA01307 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:39:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13X019-004wwQC; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:38:55 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:38:54 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix Message-ID: <20000907133854.D13000@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.1.16.20000907074650.10f7a098@localhost> <39B749CE.8B0DCAF7@detewe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39B749CE.8B0DCAF7@detewe.de>; from michael.wiedmann@detewe.de on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 09:54:54AM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-09-07 09:54:54 +0200, Michael Wiedmann wrote: > The PDF Reference Manual Version 1.2 states that the UNIX key for Unix > system launches (chapter 6.9.4, table 6.26) is not yet defined, so there > might be no way to do what you want :-( > > Maybe this has changed in PDF 1.3? Nope. Now it's chapter 7.5.3, table 7.32, but UNIX is still not yet defined. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 7-Sep-2000 12:49:33-GMT,2329;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06083 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:49:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA31173 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:52:01 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA31170 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:51:59 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13X0QP-0001Zx-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:05:01 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA02127 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:58:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13X0JH-004wwQC; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:57:39 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:57:38 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: PDFTeX and logical structure in PDF Message-ID: <20000907135738.E13000@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:58:27PM +1100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-09-07 19:58:27 +1100, Jason White wrote: > Is there any interest in implementing an option in PDFTeX that would allow > the logical structure of a TeX (or more likely a LaTeX) document to be > preserved in the PDF output? It would be interesting to have, but as long as no application uses the structure tree it makes no sense to me. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 7-Sep-2000 17:58:31-GMT,1986;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14344 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:58:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31936 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:06:20 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA31933 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:06:17 -0400 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id TAA27416; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:06:07 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: <200009071706.TAA26638@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id TAA26638; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:06:06 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:06:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: pdftex & color.sty To: oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: yj6VJdQIAhRvXu/CgyxnMg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 04 Sep 2000 15:18:41 +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > At 14:53 04.09.2000 +0200, Stephan Lehmke wrote: > > >Didn't work with seminar, of course, because seminar has its > >own output routine. > > The same with the next version of pdfcolmk. But not with the next-plus-one version, which even has hit CTAN already :-) That one works seamlessly with all my test cases. Thanks for the great work!! regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 8-Sep-2000 14:15:42-GMT,1901;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10899 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:15:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01205 for pdftex-list; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:16:14 -0400 Received: from c1mailgw04.prontomail.com ([216.163.184.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01202 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:16:12 -0400 Received: from c1web05 (208.178.29.205) by c1mailgw04.prontomail.com (NPlex 5.1.039) id 39B68EB90004580E for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:15:10 -0700 X-Version: caremail 6.2.3.3433.0 From: "Luigi Bellagotti" Message-Id: <5132EC1703584D1178730005B8052F44@luigib.snail-mail.net> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:12:17 +0200 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: AcroForm X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have a little problem with pdf annotations. Here is one of my tries. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \documentclass{article} \pdfoutput=1 \def\Bbox[#1,#2]{\vbox to #2{\hbox to #1{\hfill}\vfill}} \begin{document} some text before \hbox{\pdfannot width 10cm height 0.3cm depth 0.3cm { /T (YourName) % /FT /Tx % /F 4 /BS << /S /I >> % /MK << /BC [ 0 0 0 ] >> % /DA (/TiBO 12 Tf 0 0 1 rg) % /DV (Enter your name) /V (Enter your name) /Subtype /Widget } } \vspace{0.2cm} some text after \end{document} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% When I open the resulting pdf with AR, there is a frame in place of the annotation and, when I click on it, the annotation appears. What am I doing wrong? TIA Luigi Care2 make the world greener ! 10-Sep-2000 11:56:40-GMT,1705;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02224 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 05:56:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA04144 for pdftex-list; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 06:53:46 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04141 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 06:53:43 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13Y4k2-00040m-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:53:42 +0100 Received: from max80.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.80] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13Y4jy-0007ej-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:53:38 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14779.26942.679661.720180@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:58:06 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: bad addresses In-Reply-To: <200009092157.RAA03247@tug.org> References: <200009092157.RAA03247@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk if you any of you are relaying pdftex to the following addresses, PLEASE delete them ildar@villi.usask.ca lavoie@zeus.genie.uottawa.ca mazoni@cisne.cpdee.ufmg.br they are beginning to get me very upset... Sebastian Rahtz list owner 10-Sep-2000 16:12:33-GMT,2869;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06404 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 10:12:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04349 for pdftex-list; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:11:49 -0400 Received: from Intrusion.Phys.Ocean.Dal.Ca (IDENT:root@Intrusion.Phys.OCEAN.Dal.Ca [129.173.23.147]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04346 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:11:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (kelley@localhost) by Intrusion.Phys.Ocean.Dal.Ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA31794 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:10:16 -0300 X-Authentication-Warning: Intrusion.Phys.Ocean.Dal.Ca: kelley owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:10:16 -0300 (ADT) From: "Dan E. Kelley" Reply-To: Dan Kelley To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: how to make \ref{} links "hot"? In-Reply-To: <200009101336.JAA04243@tug.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I hope it is ok to post a pdflatex question here. I've used 'pdftex' on tex input that uses the 'texinfo' style sheets (the GNU documentation system), and the PDF files that are produced have the _terrific_ property that items marked as @ref{item} in the document end up being "hot". (I hope the word 'hot' is appropriate; I mean that when the file is viewed in acroread or xpdf, a highlighted link appears, and clicking on it makes the viewer move to the indicated cross-reference in the doc.) I'd love to do this with the notes I prepare for my undergraduate class. It would be a nice advantage over printed notes. I prepare my notes with latex, using the 'book' format, and doing cross-references with \ref{item}. Unfortunately, I find that I don't get 'hot' links in the PDF output, as I do with 'tex' on 'texinfo' format, using @ref{item}. Q: is there a trick to this? Should I use something other than \ref? Or, should I be using a style other than 'book'? Details of my setup follow. DETAILS OF MY SETUP ------------------- I am using a linux/redhat6.2 system, with the installed tetex-1.0.6-11; the output from 'pdftex --version' is as follows: pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.13d kpathsea version 3.3.1 ... and my .tex file commences with: \documentclass{book} and my acroread is version 4.0; my xpdf is version 0.90. -- Dan E. Kelley phone:(902)494-1694 Oceanography Department, Dalhousie University fax:(902)494-2885 Halifax, Nova Scotia mailto:Dan.Kelley@Dal.CA Canada B3H 4J1 http://www.phys.ocean.dal.ca/~kelley/Kelley_Dan.html 10-Sep-2000 20:10:38-GMT,1913;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10609 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 14:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04588 for pdftex-list; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 15:11:28 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04585 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 15:11:25 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13YCVd-00058z-00; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:11:21 +0100 Received: from max58.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.58] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13YCVc-0002JI-00; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:11:21 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14779.56398.278684.896469@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:09:02 +0100 (BST) To: Dan.Kelley@Dal.Ca Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: how to make \ref{} links "hot"? In-Reply-To: References: <200009101336.JAA04243@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dan E. Kelley writes: > I prepare my notes with latex, using the 'book' format, and doing > cross-references with \ref{item}. Unfortunately, I find that I don't > get 'hot' links in the PDF output, as I do with 'tex' on 'texinfo' > format, using @ref{item}. \usepackage{hyperref} you get this, and a lot more besides. sebastian 11-Sep-2000 4:13:28-GMT,4808;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19145 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:13:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04927 for pdftex-list; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:26:05 -0400 Received: from unknown (atlnga-as-5-ip-35.atlantic.net [209.208.45.35]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA04924 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:26:00 -0400 From: To: Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:45:36 Message-Id: <12.551901.358026@> Subject: laser printer toner cartridges Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk STATIC SYSTEMS 5334 LAKE VIEW CLUB ATLANTA GA 30338 770-399-0953 ***LASER PRINTER TONER CARTRIDGES*** ***FAX AND COPIER TONER*** WE ACCEPT GOVERNMENT, SCHOOL,UNIVERSITY AND LARGE CORPORATE PURCHASE ORDERS. 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N0TE: (PRINTER TRADEMARK NAMES ARE USED ABOVE FOR REFERENCE ONLY AND ARE NOT INTENDED TO INFRINGE ON THOSE TRADEMARKS) 5-Sep-2000 10:48:09-GMT,3068;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28297 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 04:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA25199 for pdftex-list; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 04:44:00 -0400 Received: from neptun.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (sirene.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.128.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA25196 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 04:43:52 -0400 Received: from box.home.de (Isis89.urz.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.138.89]) by neptun.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.1999.06.13.00.20) with ESMTP id <0G0E00AC4RCHWS@neptun.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:51:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from jochen@localhost) by box.home.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02136; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:43:55 +0200 Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:02:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Jochen Kuepper Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? In-reply-to: <20000904171736.F16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> To: Martin =?UNKNOWN?Q?Schr=F6der?= Message-id: <14771.65510.574964.964868@box.home.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 References: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <14771.45682.493677.111667@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20000904171736.F16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id EAA25197 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Martin Schröder writes: > > > The company I'm working for is evaluating the use of pdfTeX in a > > > PDF workflow, but we can't use pdfTeX if it's GPL (we would have > > > to GPL our whole workflow, which is impossible). > b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that > in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or > any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all > third parties under the terms of this License. > > > Given a software package where a unmodified GPLed binary is used > as a central part of the package: Must the whole package be GPLed > or not? I.e. is using unmodified binaries "contains" or "derived > from"? Everybody is allowed to distribute GPLed software. You are. If you sell a product that uses GPLerd software, and ship the GPLed software with it without charging for that (plus the source or a pointer to it) you are set. That means you have use the unmodified pdftex, or make any modifications to the pdftex program GPL, no more. > AFAIK GPLed software taints everything which uses it; that's why Sourcecode wise. That's its very intention! Jochen -- http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll 11-Sep-2000 18:19:38-GMT,1224;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06860 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:19:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA05991 for pdftex-list; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:27:11 -0400 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold-slow.Math.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.183.94]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05988 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:27:10 -0400 Received: (from desouza@localhost) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09383 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:27:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Paulo Ney de Souza Message-Id: <200009111727.KAA09383@math.berkeley.edu> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: thumbnails numbering Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk How does one make the numbering of the thumbnails agree with the TeX numbering of the pages ? I have something that has been produced with the book style and the pages go like i, ii, iii, ..., x, 1, 2, 3, 4 ... and of course everything is shifted by 11, the 10 initial ones plus the cover page ... Paulo Ney 11-Sep-2000 21:36:17-GMT,1712;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12752 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:36:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06180 for pdftex-list; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:46:44 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA06177 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:46:42 -0400 Received: from remote142-16.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.16] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13YaTU-0006Xm-00; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:46:45 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000911224324.3baf8a84@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:43:24 +0200 To: Paulo Ney de Souza , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: thumbnails numbering In-Reply-To: <200009111727.KAA09383@math.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:27 11.09.2000 -0700, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: > >How does one make the numbering of the thumbnails agree with the >TeX numbering of the pages ? I have something that has been produced >with the book style and the pages go like > > i, ii, iii, ..., x, 1, 2, 3, 4 ... > >and of course everything is shifted by 11, the 10 initial ones plus >the cover page ... If you use hyperref, then set option pdfpagelabels: \usepackage[pdfpagelabels]{hyperref} Yours sincerely Heiko 12-Sep-2000 3:04:33-GMT,2442;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19997 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 21:04:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA06424 for pdftex-list; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 21:52:50 -0400 Received: from smtp1.mail.yahoo.com (smtp1.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.130]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA06421 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 21:52:47 -0400 Received: from ashto-0004.sjc.ca.bbnow.net (HELO default.sjc.ca.bbnow.net.) (24.219.121.195) by smtp1.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2000 01:52:53 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 18:47:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: JJ_Game Class Reply-to: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <39BD28C2.16365.1AD00F@localhost> In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.20000911224324.3baf8a84@localhost> References: <200009111727.KAA09383@math.berkeley.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have just uploaded to the AcroTeX web site a class file that I call the jj_game.cls. This class file is used to design and construct a Jeopardy- like game. The source is in LaTeX, then converted to PDF using pdftex, dvips, or dvipsone (these are the three driver options available at this time). The pdftex option requires the \pagecolor command, available in the latest pdftex.def file, which can be obtained from the TUG web site. A like to the location is on the JJ_Game html page. JJ_Game Home Page : http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/jj_game.html Hope you have fun with it. Regards, dps Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com 12-Sep-2000 6:07:22-GMT,7211;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23927 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA06828 for pdftex-list; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 01:09:06 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.118]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06825 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 01:09:00 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (root@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05386 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:41:37 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:cvr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01888 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:33:40 +0530 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:33:40 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Free Software Company Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk What I am giving below is off topic but relevant to everyone associated with free software. I hope most of you might have heard about Richard M. Stallman (RMS) and the Free Software Foundation (FSF), especially those aligned with TeX are no doubt allies of the free software movement ignited by RMS. An intense discussion is going on at freedevelopers@topica.com for the formation of a Free Software Company entirely owned by the free developers world wide (100,000 developers expected) to safeguard the moral, social and ethical foundations on which FSF was built up, to provide appropriate monetary compensation and quality life to a free software developer he deserves in all the fairness and to fight the merciless commerce of the proprietary software corporates. These being the primary objectives, Tony Stanco (an associate of RMS, who moderates the list) describe it in the following way: 1. Proprietary code is the enemy. It must be destroyed for developers and the world to be free. Open source is an ally. 2. Developers can be paid salaries and/or stock options to work on free code without violating the core principles of free code. 3. Mergers and acquisitions of proprietary companies are not objectionable in defeating proprietary. 4. A company of free developers, by free developers, for free developers is an acceptable vehicle to achieve the ends of free code. 5. A requirement in the certificate of incorporation that all code owned by the company is licensed under GPL or other tying to FSF is appropriate to ensure that the core principles of free software are observed going forward and to protect from slipping back to proprietary. 6. A democratic, free developer run corporation does not require special safeguards to protect ordinary world citizens. As one of the developing nations, in India or in any developing nation, where automation has just started, Free Software Company and FSF have plenty of implications. 1. In the first place, our poor economy cant afford to the fancy prices of proprietary software (maybe due to the foriegn exchange conversion magic). 2. Free Software can meet any objective, functionality that is claimed by the proprietary. 3. The huge man power resources generated in each and every place of higher academic learning in this country get a chance to contribute to the free software movement, while he earns a substantially increased income comparable to his counterpart in any proprietary corporate, as an employee of the proposed company. The discussions tend to provide the standard wages in India as in any part of the world. That will surely solve the disturbing problems of migration in many an Indian family. 4. There are plenty of requirement for software in this country for meeting its target of total automation for which each and every government or other agencies stand for today. Free software can meet their objectives on sound moral, ethical and social foundations than any other proprietary corporate. A Case Study: ------------ The Govt. of Kerala has formed an IT mission to automate the 1000 and odd Gram Panchayats (the lowest unit of elected body at village level) of this state. It is a massive and aggressive project to bring details of all the citizens of this state into a huge database, each Panchayat becoming a resource center for the government and at the same time act as the information exchange medium between the public and the government. This is an ideal project for the free software movement. The government have earmarked around Rs. 800,000 per Panchayat for using proprietary software and related development as initial investment and Rs. 150,000 as annual recurring expenses. While this came as a proposal, the Linux Users and TeX Users Groups came forward to negotiate with the government to do the project at a cost of Rs. 150,000 per Panchyat as initial expenses and rs. 20,000 as recurring expenses. But we were turned down, just because, we were considered to be a group of free thinkers, whom no responsible government can rely upon. Had there been a corporate entity with FSF objectives to compete with the proprietary agencies, the public exchecquer would have saved millions of rupees, the developers in this or neighbouring states would have got employment. Still the project is not finalized due to the media stir we raised and the seminars of users groups wherein the government nominees were special invitees. To make matters difficult for the government, the Cochin Linux Users Group came up with a viable, stable, functional software model which the political bureaucracy cannot overlook or deny. The final decision was postponed and still lingering. That means we have not lost the race, the global Free Software Company can still fight it out once it is formally incorporated. Tens of thousands of projects are in the offing which we all can undertake. This is the case in many other countries world wide. There are a quite a number of posts in the freedevelopers list similar to this from West European countries. Therefore, if you believe in the non-exploitative future of your country and the world at large and if you believe in the objectives of free software movement, you are always welcome to make the Free Software Company a reality. It requires the developer in you, not for free, but for a standard compensation as in any other proprietary corporate. Why don't you subscribe to the discussions by sending a mail to: freedevelopers-subscribe@topica.com with a word `subscribe' in the subject line? You are not alone, but you are going to meet/associate with some of the greatest minds of this era in this movement. And remember, Free Software Company is going to be the greatest event in the history of Internet and every country should have its fare representation and share. Comments are welcome. -- Radhakrishnan 12-Sep-2000 10:26:47-GMT,1961;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28436 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 04:23:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA07160 for pdftex-list; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 05:45:21 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07157 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 05:45:19 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01947 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:45:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17436 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:45:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200009120945.LAA17436@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: pdftex-0.14g-pretest released To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:45:22 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, dua to quite a lot of changes during last months, I think it would be good to release a pretest now. Please check it out at ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/snapshots/20000912/ (sources + linux + djgpp + solaris). Changes: * fixed a problem with some t1 fonts where encoding vector ended by `def' instead of `readonly def' (reported by Thierry & Tom) * suppress destination and thread whatsit in leaders (requested by Stephan) * fixed a problem concerning mltex + pdftex (reported by Fabrice + Giovani) * removed duplicates in Font dict resources (reported by Hans) * hz-opt changed: \rpcode, \lpcode and \efcode are now font-dependent Regards, Thanh 12-Sep-2000 16:14:19-GMT,2273;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02729 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:14:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07531 for pdftex-list; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:19:08 -0400 Received: from gwdu42.gwdg.de (root@gwdu42.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07528 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:19:07 -0400 Received: from gwdu20.gwdg.de ([134.76.98.2] ident=dweiss1) by gwdu42.gwdg.de with smtp (Exim 3.14 #18) id 13Yrq4-0004u6-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:19:12 +0200 Received: from localhost by gwdu20.gwdg.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/11Feb98-0154PM) id AA19971; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:19:12 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:19:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Daniel Weiss To: pdfTeX Subject: Embedding of large objects into PDF files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I tried to embed a Quicktime movie into a PDF file using the following syntax: \pdfobj file Chlamy1ts.mov \pdfrefobj\pdflastobj That gives me this error: TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=1000] on pdfTeX 0.14d, MiKTeX 1.20e, using a precompiled binary for Win98. Can I get around this without compiling the sources? Thanks for your help, Daniel Daniel Weiss tel: +49 551 399431 Institute for X-Ray Physics (IRP) fax: +49 551 399430 University Georgia Augusta at Goettingen email: Daniel.Weiss@ Geiststrasse 11, 37073 Goettingen, Germany phys.uni-goettingen.de PGP public key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x3D3E57B9&fingerprint=on (fingerprint: F0 4C B3 27 0E 36 08 C0 54 A7 73 DD ED 52 B0 9B) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOb5JbvSzBDo9Ple5AQH3LAP+K89fFBaCX/GOSj4UackDYr1Stgai+qIG OUjzNvt/vBUu0SLapaSfkMnkJY+42oP/yQol3j5OA4iHMVvv8sw64vEGqk9uaVM0 /oTKCq73Jox+SRX4Lr2L/Ddwd7bPvbS9Ug9OMwlOGSAmiabszOWy82Rg+gxTVcM1 jbny3TiZDGQ= =xn/L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 12-Sep-2000 18:03:09-GMT,1029;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05917 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:03:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07702 for pdftex-list; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:10:23 -0400 Received: from europa.pop-rn.rnp.br (europa.pop-rn.rnp.br [200.137.0.52]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07699 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:10:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by europa.pop-rn.rnp.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00812 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:10:14 -0300 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:10:14 -0300 (BRT) From: Paulo Motta To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: PDF Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Please, PDF is proprietary ?? Thanks Paulo 12-Sep-2000 22:37:49-GMT,1936;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13810 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 16:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08017 for pdftex-list; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:01:28 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08014 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:01:25 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13Yy6i-0004bX-00; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:00:48 +0100 Received: from max19.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.19] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13Yy6h-0002t5-00; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:00:47 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14782.43021.712429.678025@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:02:53 +0100 (BST) To: paulo@europa.pop-rn.rnp.br Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: PDF In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Paulo Motta writes: > > Please, PDF is proprietary ?? yes. PDF is a private specification of Adobe. That said, it is (quite well) published, and you have every permission to write and use software which implements it. What you cannot do is influence what PDF is - if Adobe want to change it, they can. But they promise to keep it fully published. Acrobat, on the other hand, really is their proprietary stuff. Sebastian 13-Sep-2000 10:39:46-GMT,1553;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27477 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 04:39:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08893 for pdftex-list; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 05:45:50 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08889 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 05:45:48 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id LAA16336; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:45:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA05671; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:45:58 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:45:58 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200009130945.LAA05671@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Han The Thanh Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14g-pretest released In-Reply-To: <200009120945.LAA17436@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <200009120945.LAA17436@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » * hz-opt changed: \rpcode, \lpcode and \efcode are now font-dependent how? 13-Sep-2000 11:06:39-GMT,5668;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27951 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 05:06:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA08932 for pdftex-list; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:01:46 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA08929 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:01:44 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21503; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:01:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA16938; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:01:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200009131001.MAA16938@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex-0.14g-pretest released In-Reply-To: <200009130945.LAA05671@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> from Thierry Bouche at "Sep 13, 0 11:45:58 am" To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr (Thierry Bouche) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:01:55 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM968839315-14971-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --ELM968839315-14971-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > » * hz-opt changed: \rpcode, \lpcode and \efcode are now font-dependent > > how? e.g. \font\f=cmr10 \rpcode\f`\!=500 or \f \rpcode\font`\!=500 See more in the included macros (quite small, so hopefully Sebastian will let them pass). 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Wed, 13 Sep 2000 05:50:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA08985 for pdftex-list; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:40:38 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA08982 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:40:36 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13ZA3d-0000jq-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:46:25 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA29922 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:39:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13Z9yK-004wwQC; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:40:56 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:40:56 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: clipping Message-ID: <20000913124056.A2122@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, pdftex.def just told me that there is no clipping for included graphics in pdftex. :-} I see two ways to clip an image in PDF: - set the BBox of the form dictionary.=20 How do I do this in pdf(la)tex? - set a clipping path when inserting the picture. How do I do this in pdf(la)tex? Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOb9ZuPhOymx+mbrBAQExtQgAh4I7jAkH0RxzG2pXlnkB2XGoiymsst1G 2k4gzhTHAOYRAP5Gwne0+Pd5Etdwr8DZhBvGVnZbk44h+ZkYBSKtS8ASp4zrz7Cp U1IRCHaG8xBc/XuKjFy7lN67ixqCJsxTNFe06MtKVNU6XUUXGsCubCe5Ia87U1Cu NnW7nC6ofKxAmzzwOXGp6lIs1rMK0qdxTFYVl3EchRyTHIi6QG9hiEgq4q9vQAjz /g/FOPDsY7yK+ucTbKWXLfe5IyVjSQ+4BtCN4GPsNpowaVIEVn1hxzmCyTJAtBCs iMPnc2kinlZbmQfcmjEXXqrcRBNFMtFZi5KwREU3eNACJ5CU/NjHng== =wSg9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- 13-Sep-2000 15:18:57-GMT,3158;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03308 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:18:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09451 for pdftex-list; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:44:08 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09448 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:44:06 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13ZDrK-0003V5-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:49:58 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id QAA04016 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:43:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13ZDmG-004wwQC; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:44:44 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:44:44 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: clipping Message-ID: <20000913164444.B2122@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20000913124056.A2122@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009131429.QAA18322@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009131429.QAA18322@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr>; from Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr on Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 04:29:08PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-09-13 16:29:08 +0200, Thierry Bouche wrote: > =BB How do I do this in pdf(la)tex? >=20 > Currently, you don't. >=20 > But you can easily add a cliping path to your EPS before you generate > the PDF (or crop it in acrobat...) I can't and I can't. The images to include are given and can not be changed. And I want to include an image multiple times with different clip paths. Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOb+S3PhOymx+mbrBAQHVHAf+NUXT8x2PCkbLvyeenSO6IpsqhMktyOYH PULEqtbvle4os3jP3tQNwyXlBzvJE2ZdhwVy5xTAVgZkLFSjfTb3mk6czrSDAY1t 2g4IDtrLJbukhu2EJk7fnlY2RSzHxfDux5+xrYHre2G/gZ7vTBLzvmwxFCcXy2Ge bhV7pxXpl/xuOX4N7BPYYcXTf0bHG+oAj4YXMjqivUv23TKV9aujRqgVem8wRIVy diiS4hYYf0nXY5wC0AZ/Hr+Z4qkG6warmtDn+OOFIhJEHsSJ0PJw43Kv+7a4Eueo DQvZx5loqnQgZ6kRy/4RUGpwO2OjSmEuv7p/3Zke+6fcYHtxbxR+Ow== =VhuK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF-- 13-Sep-2000 15:25:26-GMT,1773;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03470 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:25:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09407 for pdftex-list; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:29:07 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09404 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:29:05 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id QAA03176; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:29:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id QAA18322; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:29:08 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:29:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200009131429.QAA18322@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: clipping In-Reply-To: <20000913124056.A2122@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <20000913124056.A2122@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » How do I do this in pdf(la)tex? Currently, you don't. But you can easily add a cliping path to your EPS before you generate the PDF (or crop it in acrobat...) Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 13-Sep-2000 18:05:12-GMT,1323;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08583 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:05:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09641 for pdftex-list; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:32:34 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09638 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:32:32 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20119 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:32:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA17468 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:32:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200009131732.TAA17468@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: clipping To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:32:45 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, there is a sample file at http://www.fi.muni.cz/~thanh/download/t.zip Thanh 14-Sep-2000 3:35:46-GMT,2095;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22879 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:35:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10069 for pdftex-list; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:56:45 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA10066 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:56:43 -0400 Received: from remote142-143.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.143] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13ZPCp-0007RE-00; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 04:56:56 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000914045223.10df186c@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 04:52:23 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , Han The Thanh From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: clipping Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20000913124056.A2122@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id WAA10067 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:40 13.09.2000 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >pdftex.def just told me that there is no clipping for included >graphics in pdftex. :-} > >I see two ways to clip an image in PDF: >- set the BBox of the form dictionary. > How do I do this in pdf(la)tex? I have updated pdftex.def 2000/09/14 v0.3d: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def * `viewport' and `trim' are fixed by adding the correct shifting. * `clip' support is added by using the form method. Because I dislike double entries for /BBox, the sizes of the box for \pdfxform are immediately set to the right values instead of an additional "attr{/BBox[...]}". Yours sincerely Heiko 14-Sep-2000 10:58:19-GMT,2822;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01206 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 04:58:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA10666 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 05:53:24 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10663 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 05:53:21 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13ZVnT-00037k-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:59:11 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA16202 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:52:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13ZVfg-004wwQC; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:51:08 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:51:08 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: clipping Message-ID: <20000914115108.C20879@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <200009131732.TAA17468@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009131732.TAA17468@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:32:45PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-09-13 19:32:45 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > there is a sample file at http://www.fi.muni.cz/~thanh/download/t.zip=20 Many thanks. Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOcCfi/hOymx+mbrBAQHufwgAr+0CyzCU0tMoCndLyBQoDchh79N20mhI 7XFZ2DhT3z5EkRz7r7vkrOt91bJlUxIuTt5MOaFg3Od/lvBbwOY1lkSRmSUpw6Sx hU/TGo8EW/4aC8KznBml6LJNj4+CqsEqlai02Ud5eXzsfBAWyib+mSJbO4w8LY6U NypPHWFAGJrEvxUEe07VgN7xIFZFAXIdijya0uicmBr2aB+7k8TnOW12PsPupfsv JoF3kqx4YaMiVXO2RNdJAICqbU+Kp/zatyHaQGsDGS9WJzMEowWQPxs+kj9VyYbx 6uBvZ4Mqf38YR5LZw9wAUNU2K5n0twC0oGW4vWpLK+wKSzUWYkz49Q== =9OmY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- 14-Sep-2000 11:37:41-GMT,3132;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01979 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 05:37:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA10705 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:36:17 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA10702 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:36:14 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13ZWT0-0003h0-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:42:06 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA16790 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:35:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13ZWLx-004wwQC; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:34:49 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:34:49 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: clipping Message-ID: <20000914123449.F20879@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20000913124056.A2122@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20000913183845.0165d350@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000913183845.0165d350@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 06:38:45PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-09-13 18:38:45 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > Indeed forms are clipped by default, a rather strange default feature, > since now it *does* make a difference if you incluse graphics as form or > in-stream. Even worse: form bboxes are very sensitive to inaccurate Forms are always clipped in PDF as the BBox entry in a form dictionary is required. Images have no such entry. Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOcCpyfhOymx+mbrBAQGA2gf9FVO21TAHnyo/V9jaud9eSshBpwNGkZyB 29WtYjqWT+STtjRCV5Rdde9kJ2G1PWJG1uvx9q85J7+GEJUy7Zs5ONEPYYmwKCtz nTr6/1NeVDKTSSmHPjacAGiBr9u6d/K150AdU1hwNo+ZBCZPZGTv9S643oX/23QA 9fszaXMvvr6sVZrg7s3iTLRz/ywW9PClMvZyjeDHsbNLGcU/SAtXyz5iCDMXxLTh m+Shm76DDQdISEhyQdqy3p4RWxy+LBHeU9q+Zh/dJ2OSof9hlIzm7GZtjQdi95Ee h1kcb/ceivogkOUvFikmaLvE9CsDh901RBWyhjDZjfmEXgLL+kJYWQ== =dvQ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN-- 14-Sep-2000 12:02:36-GMT,2532;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02421 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:02:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA10689 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:14:54 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA10686 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:14:52 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.234]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with SMTP id AAD201F; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:15:04 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000913183845.0165d350@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 18:38:45 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: clipping Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20000913124056.A2122@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id GAA10687 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:40 PM 9/13/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >Hi, >pdftex.def just told me that there is no clipping for included >graphics in pdftex. :-} > >I see two ways to clip an image in PDF: >- set the BBox of the form dictionary. > How do I do this in pdf(la)tex? >- set a clipping path when inserting the picture. > How do I do this in pdf(la)tex? In context: \clip[....]{whatever} is implemented in the pdftex special driver using the low level pdf code snippets: \pdfliteral{q 0 w W n}}whatever\pdfliteral{Q} [i suppose you know how a path looks and how you can calculate one -) Indeed forms are clipped by default, a rather strange default feature, since now it *does* make a difference if you incluse graphics as form or in-stream. Even worse: form bboxes are very sensitive to inaccurate viewers, so some special care is needed. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Sep-2000 12:48:38-GMT,2933;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03202 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:48:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA10761 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:45:08 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10758 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:45:05 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13ZXXf-0004Ui-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:50:59 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA17603 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:44:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13ZXQd-004wwQC; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:43:43 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:43:43 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: clipping Message-ID: <20000914134343.G20879@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20000913124056.A2122@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.1.16.20000914045223.10df186c@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+nBD6E3TurpgldQp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000914045223.10df186c@localhost>; from oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de on Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:52:23AM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-09-14 04:52:23 +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > I have updated pdftex.def 2000/09/14 v0.3d: > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Many thanks! Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOcC57vhOymx+mbrBAQHkvggArQiMb8PFIzZJMVyCLPVIpLS85viPKrlR OXMqccFbyQDRihzB7Mg7wFl2A1e63hSRmdV1xkszOC/UW3Hd73hMT6zgpTwRIQXB Z30o2LQoeRYDDE8EKaw0xC5Lsn6zUH0AoArFx8YB46a/RtdXz8jyzw55aaSpgqN/ gaXsm1AY9dDHFf4LxHSzCok+LXjGeC/JUkaKFhNuzw1wuyR9Ba3SPQzAa66CRH+q Vmy0+7aFKxW349GJV6ZScv2ZEIycRNGVR5OEflpz5cRvjii6FL4pi8Q12uGyvf9S aDBB9Ef60kw+YvYVpFaqudK76y6/iMPRXCtph/Eimy8qr/IzfB4FsA== =yaLb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp-- 14-Sep-2000 17:47:50-GMT,1781;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10909 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:47:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11246 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:11:02 -0400 Received: from mail.site.uottawa.ca (root@mail.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.24.142]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11243 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:10:58 -0400 Received: from site.uottawa.ca (IDENT:turcotte@[137.122.107.94]) by mail.site.uottawa.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20371 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39C1065D.59AE2DE8@site.uottawa.ca> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:09:49 -0400 From: Marcel Turcotte Reply-To: turcotte@site.uottawa.ca Organization: University of Ottawa/School of Information Technology and Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Multiple page per sheet in PDF files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I am using pdflatex to create my presentations, and I wonder if it's possible to generate an output 4 pages per sheet (for hands out). At the moment I am using psnup, but I find the result unsatisfactory, especially with respect to fonts. Thank you, Marcel -- Marcel Turcotte School of Information Technology and Engineering turcotte@site.uottawa.ca University of Ottawa Tel/Fax (613)562-5800x6660/5175 P.O. Box 450, Station A www.site.uottawa.ca/~turcotte Ottawa Ontario K1N 6N5 Canada 14-Sep-2000 22:19:02-GMT,5178;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18657 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:19:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11490 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:45:11 -0400 Received: from ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.96.18]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11487 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:45:09 -0400 Received: from msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca (msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca [131.104.32.59]) by ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27145 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009142145.RAA27145@ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca> Received: from MSNET/SpoolDir by msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca (Mercury 1.48); 14 Sep 00 17:44:44 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by MSNET (Mercury 1.48); 14 Sep 00 17:44:22 -0500 From: "Bill Smith" Organization: Math & Stats, University of Guelph To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:44:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Bug in running D. Story's Jeopardy game X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, Has anyone tried to run Dr. Story's jeopardy game (posted recently) using MikTeX and PDFTeX? (BTW, if you haven't looked at it yet, please do; it's quite amazing) I got the error indicated at the end of the log file below. Can anyone tell me the problem? Thanx in advance. This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) (preloaded format=latex 2000.2.10) 14 SEP 2000 17:41 **\pdfoutput=1 \pdfpagewidth=8.5in \pdfpageheight=11.0in \input jjg_test.tex (jjg_test.tex (jj_game.cls Document Class: jj_game 2000/09/03 v1.0 jj_game Class (dps) \c@driver=\count79 \c@scheme=\count80 (C:\texmf\tex\latex\base\article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (C:\texmf\tex\latex\base\size10.clo File: size10.clo 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX file (size option) ) \c@part=\count81 \c@section=\count82 \c@subsection=\count83 \c@subsubsection=\count84 \c@paragraph=\count85 \c@subparagraph=\count86 \c@figure=\count87 \c@table=\count88 \abovecaptionskip=\skip41 \belowcaptionskip=\skip42 \bibindent=\dimen102 ) (C:\texmf\tex\latex\graphics\color.sty Package: color 1999/02/16 v1.0i Standard LaTeX Color (DPC) (C:\texmf\tex\latex\config\color.cfg) Package color Info: Driver file: pdftex.def on input line 125. (pdftex.def File: pdftex.def 2000/09/14 v0.03e graphics/color for pdftex \Gread@gobject=\count89 )) (C:\texmf\tex\latex\hyperref\hyperref.sty Package: hyperref 1999/11/09 v6.67e Hypertext links for LaTeX (C:\texmf\tex\latex\graphics\keyval.sty Package: keyval 1999/03/16 v1.13 key=value parser (DPC) \KV@toks@=\toks14 ) \@linkdim=\dimen103 \Hy@linkcounter=\count90 \Hy@pagecounter=\count91 (C:\texmf\tex\latex\hyperref\pd1enc.def File: pd1enc.def 1999/10/05 v0.6 PDFDocEncoding (Heiko Oberdiek) ) Package hyperref Info: Option `debug' set `true' on input line 1361. Package hyperref Info: Bookmarks ON on input line 1410. Package hyperref Info: Hyper figures OFF on input line 1429. Package hyperref Info: Link nesting OFF on input line 1434. Package hyperref Info: Hyper index ON on input line 1437. Package hyperref Info: Plain pages ON on input line 1442. Package hyperref Info: Backreferencing OFF on input line 1449. Implicit mode ON; LaTeX internals redefined (C:\texmf\tex\latex\misc\url.sty Package: url 1999/03/02 ver 1.4 Verb mode for urls, email addresses, and file names ) \Fld@menulength=\count92 \Field@Width=\dimen104 \Fld@charsize=\dimen105 \Choice@toks=\toks15 \Field@toks=\toks16 Package hyperref Info: Hyper figures OFF on input line 2058. Package hyperref Info: Link nesting OFF on input line 2063. Package hyperref Info: Hyper index ON on input line 2066. Package hyperref Info: backreferencing OFF on input line 2073. Package hyperref Info: Link coloring OFF on input line 2078. \c@Item=\count93 \c@Hfootnote=\count94 ) *hyperref using driver hpdftex* (C:\texmf\tex\latex\hyperref\hpdftex.def (C:\texmf\tex\latex\psnfss\pifont.sty Package: pifont 1999/03/29 PSNFSS v.7.2 Pi font support : S Rahtz LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for U+pzd on input line 63. (C:\texmf\tex\latex\psnfss\upzd.fd File: upzd.fd 1998/07/06 font definitions for U/pzd. ) LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for U+psy on input line 64. (C:\texmf\tex\latex\psnfss\upsy.fd File: upsy.fd 1998/07/06 font definitions for U/psy. )) \Fld@listcount=\count95 \@outlinefile=\write3 ) Runaway argument? {pdfpagemode=None,colorlinks, ! Paragraph ended before \setkeys was complete. Best Regards, W. R. Smith, Professor Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics and School of Engineering Room 546 MacNaughton Building University of Guelph Stone Road and Gordon Streets Guelph, Ontario, CANADA N1G 2W1 Tel: 519-824-4120, ext. 3038; FAX: 519-837-0221; http://www.mathstat.uoguelph.ca/faculty/smith/ 15-Sep-2000 2:03:44-GMT,3978;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23451 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:03:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA11656 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:32:56 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA11653 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:32:54 -0400 Received: from remote142-173.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.173] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13ZkNJ-0006iQ-00; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 03:33:09 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000915032701.50b740b2@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 03:27:01 +0200 To: Radhakrishnan C V From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.16.20000907074650.10f7a098@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, many thanks for the answers. I do know the section of the pdf specification about the undefined /Unix launch dictionary. But I had the hope, there is some undocumented way or that I had failed to see a simple solution :-( At 14:30 07.09.00 +0530, Radhakrishnan C V wrote: >On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >: does someone know, how can I start an application >: under Unix (Linux) with parameters? >: >: An /P key in the /Unix dictionary seems not to work. > >I have been trying this for quite a long time now. > > \href{run:/usr/X11R6/bin/gvim#manual.tex}% > {\fboxsep3pt\fboxrule1pt\color{red}\shadowbox{Edit the file}} > >This starts only the gvim, but the file is not loaded. But if I use a >script of course, it does. > >If you find a way out, please tell me too. Way A: script ============= For my problem (editor with line number) I have now developed a script variant: * For each source file a symbol link to the script is generated. The symbol links are named with the special extension `.vpe'. So the script can extract the file name easily from its calling name. * The line number are encoded at the beginning of the absolute file name using the following properties: "/." == "/" "/.." == "/" "//" == "//" The coding algorithm for the line number: * The decimal digits of the number are separated and ended by the sequence "./". * Each decimal digit of the number is converted to a sequence of slashes, optionally followed by a period. The count of slashes is the number. With the period, the count have to be incremented by 5. * The conversion of the first digit always starts with a slash to ensure a absolute path names, eg: "5" is converted to "/////", but not as first digit it can be shrunk to ".". Examples (spaces only for clarifying): 2: // ./ 6: /. ./ 9: ////. ./ 11: / ./ / ./ 28: // ./ ///. ./ (see example above) 505: ///// ./ ./ . ./ I have implemeted this in `vpe', that will go to CTAN, because the files are too large for the list: CTAN:macros/latex/contrib/supported/oberdiek/vpe.{txt,pl,sty} Way B: cgi-url? =============== Another method is perhaps an url that points to a cgi script, here the url already contains the parameters. But I do not have a web server running, so I do not have tested this way. Way C: lib-patch?? ================== Perhaps AR can be persuaded to load a patched library (libc?) with the function that starts programs, so that parameters (eg: "/usr/bin/editor#+10 myfile.tex") can be used in a virtual filename (not tested). Yours sincerely Heiko 15-Sep-2000 8:48:37-GMT,1924;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00931 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 02:48:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12292 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 04:10:06 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12289 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 04:10:02 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.105]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id G0X5CD03.463; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:09:49 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000915092917.01ce5a80@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:29:17 +0200 To: turcotte@site.uottawa.ca From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Multiple page per sheet in PDF files Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <39C1065D.59AE2DE8@site.uottawa.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 01:09 PM 9/14/00 -0400, Marcel Turcotte wrote: > >Hello all, > >I am using pdflatex to create my presentations, and I wonder if it's >possible >to generate an output 4 pages per sheet (for hands out). > >At the moment I am using psnup, but I find the result unsatisfactory, >especially >with respect to fonts. texexec --pdfcomb --comb=2*2 yourfile.pdf or similar calls. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 9:08:24-GMT,2107;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01265 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 03:08:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12301 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 04:21:24 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12298 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 04:21:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (ripley@localhost) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA14811; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:17:57 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: toucan.stats: ripley owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:17:56 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian Ripley X-Sender: ripley@toucan.stats To: Marcel Turcotte cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Multiple page per sheet in PDF files In-Reply-To: <39C1065D.59AE2DE8@site.uottawa.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Marcel Turcotte wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am using pdflatex to create my presentations, and I wonder if it's > possible > to generate an output 4 pages per sheet (for hands out). > > At the moment I am using psnup, but I find the result unsatisfactory, > especially > with respect to fonts. I do that all the time. How are you getting the ps from the pdf? Windows versions of Acrobat (Reader) were not very good producers of postscript, and Acrobat 3 had an ExportPS plug-in that did a better job. These days I circumvent it by using Acrobat Reader 4.05 on Solaris. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 15-Sep-2000 9:15:54-GMT,1996;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01408 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 03:15:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12311 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 04:31:21 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12308 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 04:31:19 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id KAA17044 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:31:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id KAA05396; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:31:36 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:31:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200009150831.KAA05396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000915032701.50b740b2@localhost> References: <3.0.1.16.20000907074650.10f7a098@localhost> <3.0.1.16.20000915032701.50b740b2@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » I have implemeted this in `vpe', that will go » to CTAN, because the files are too large for the list: » CTAN:macros/latex/contrib/supported/oberdiek/vpe.{txt,pl,sty} maybe off topic, but how larger are the PDF files? what action launches the editor (right click?)? also, could that be used under windows? (i'm running xemacs: does it have a server that could prevent from launching a new editor?) Thierry Bouche 15-Sep-2000 14:53:28-GMT,2900;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07816 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:53:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12652 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:18:25 -0400 Received: from sunshine.math.utah.edu (csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12649 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:18:22 -0400 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06986; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA29095; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:18:38 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >> ... >> >(i'm running xemacs: does it have a server that could prevent from >> >launching a new editor?) >> ... emacs has an associated emacsclient program; if you set the EDITOR variable to emacsclient, instead of emacs, then any application that lauches the editor named by EDITOR will reuse the existing emacs session in which the command server-start has been issued. If there are multiple emacs processes running, then the last one in which server-start was run is the one that emacsclient will use. The invoking process can select a line number by the usual technique of running "$EDITOR +nnn filename"; the emacs buffer with that file will then be positioned with the cursor at the start of line number nnn. I've used this technique for years to get fast entry into emacs from other programs, such as mail clients and file viewers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 16:08:53-GMT,1794;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09859 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12719 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:22:57 -0400 Received: from stunotes2.furman.edu (stunotes2.furman.edu [156.143.129.44]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12716 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:22:55 -0400 From: Mark.Woodard@furman.edu Subject: Re: Bug in running D. Story's Jeopardy game To: "Bill Smith" Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.1a August 17, 1999 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:23:13 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on StuNotes2/Furman(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 09/15/2000 11:23:17 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "Bill Smith" @tug.org on 09/14/2000 05:44:21 PM Sent by: owner-pdftex@tug.org To: pdftex@tug.org cc: Subject: Bug in running D. Story's Jeopardy game Has anyone tried to run Dr. Story's jeopardy game (posted recently) using MikTeX and PDFTeX? (BTW, if you haven't looked at it yet, please do; it's quite amazing) I got the error indicated at the end of the log file below. Can anyone tell me the problem? Thanx in advance. (C:\texmf\tex\latex\hyperref\hyperref.sty Package: hyperref 1999/11/09 v6.67e Hypertext links for LaTeX I'd first upgrade to hyperref.sty 6.70f and try again. That seems to be the main difference between your unsuccessful and my successful run. -Mark 15-Sep-2000 16:30:35-GMT,2557;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10656 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:30:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12730 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:31:34 -0400 Received: from ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.96.18]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12727 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:31:32 -0400 Received: from msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca (msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca [131.104.32.59]) by ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26388 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009151531.LAA26388@ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca> Received: from MSNET/SpoolDir by msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca (Mercury 1.48); 15 Sep 00 11:31:12 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by MSNET (Mercury 1.48); 15 Sep 00 11:31:04 -0500 From: "Bill Smith" Organization: Math & Stats, University of Guelph To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:31:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Bug in running D. Story's Jeopardy game In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 15 Sep 00, at 11:23, Mark.Woodard@furman.edu wrote: >> "Bill Smith" @tug.org >on 09/14/2000 >> 05:44:21 PM > > >> Subject: Bug in running D. Story's Jeopardy game > > Has anyone tried to run Dr. Story's jeopardy game (posted >> recently) using MikTeX and PDFTeX? (BTW, if you haven't looked >> at it yet, please do; it's quite amazing) > > >> I got the error indicated at the end of the log file below. Can anyone >>tell me the problem? Thanx in advance. >> >> (C:\texmf\tex\latex\hyperref\hyperref.sty >> Package: hyperref 1999/11/09 v6.67e Hypertext links for LaTeX > I'd first upgrade to hyperref.sty 6.70f and try again. > That seems to be the main difference between your unsuccessful and my > successful run. Been there, done that. Same thing :-( Best Regards, W. R. Smith, Professor Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics and School of Engineering Room 546 MacNaughton Building University of Guelph Stone Road and Gordon Streets Guelph, Ontario, CANADA N1G 2W1 Tel: 519-824-4120, ext. 3038; FAX: 519-837-0221; http://www.mathstat.uoguelph.ca/faculty/smith/ 15-Sep-2000 16:49:08-GMT,3324;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11196 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:49:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12767 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:17:30 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12764 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:17:28 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA27534 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:17:47 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:17:47 +0200 Message-Id: <200009151617.SAA27534@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex-20000912 X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, when I tried to compile teTeX-src-beta-20000804 and pdftex-20000912 I get the following message: ./tie -m pdftex.web ./tex.web ./pdftexdir/pdftex.ch This is TIE, CWEB Version 2.4. Copyright (c) 1989,1992 by THD/ITI. All rights reserved. (./tex.web) (./pdftexdir/pdftex.ch) ....500....1000....1500....2000....2500....3000....3500....4000....4500....5000....5500....6000....6500....7000....7500....8000....8500....9000....9500....10000....10500....11000....11500....12000....12500....13000....13500....14000....14500....15000....15500....16000....16500....17000....17500....18000....18500....19000....19500....20000....20500....21000....21500....22000....22500....23000....23500....24000....24500.... (No errors were found.) make[2]: *** No rule to make target `tex-src-special.ch', needed by `pdftex.ch'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/dtp/build/tetex/teTeX-src-beta-20000804/texk/web2c' make[1]: *** [all] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/dtp/build/tetex/teTeX-src-beta-20000804/texk' make: *** [all] Error 1 This is what I've done: ------------------------------------------------------------------ #!/bin/sh BUILDDIR=`pwd` tar -xzvf teTeX-src-beta-20000804.tar.gz tar -xzvf pdftex-20000912.tar.gz cd ${BUILDDIR}/teTeX-src-beta-20000804/texk/web2c || exit 1 mv pdftexdir pdftexdir-- mv pdfetexdir pdfetexdir-- cp -av ${BUILDDIR}/src/texk/web2c/pdf* . cd ${BUILDDIR}/teTeX-src-beta-20000804 || exit 1 ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/dtp --with-x --enable-ipc || exit 1 make | tee ${BUILDDIR}/mktetex.log ------------------------------------------------------------------ Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Sep-2000 17:38:50-GMT,1691;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12792 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:38:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12803 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:03:21 -0400 Received: from nagmx1.nag.co.uk (nagmx1.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12800 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:03:13 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@hereford.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.112]) by nagmx1.nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02633; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:03:15 +0100 (BST) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25139; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:10:32 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:10:32 GMT Message-Id: <200009151810.SAA25139@nag.co.uk> X-Authentication-Warning: hereford.nag.co.uk: davidc set sender to davidc@nag.co.uk using -f From: David Carlisle To: wsmith@msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <200009142145.RAA27145@ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca> (wsmith@msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca) Subject: Re: Bug in running D. Story's Jeopardy game References: <200009142145.RAA27145@ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I got the error indicated at the end of the log file below. Can anyone > tell me the problem? Thanx in advance. are you sure you haven't a corrupt file? tex thinks that there is a blank line after the comma here: {pdfpagemode=None,colorlinks, so either tex is confused, or there is a blank line there, in which case your file has been mangled in transit. David 15-Sep-2000 17:41:52-GMT,1635;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from bz2.apple.com (bz2.apple.com [17.254.0.82]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12886 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:41:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unicode.org (unicode2.apple.com [17.254.3.212]) by bz2.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12707; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from agent@localhost) by unicode.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01222; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:25:53 -0800 (GMT-0800) Message-Id: <200009151725.JAA01222@unicode.org> Errors-To: root@unicode.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-UML-Sequence: 15967 (2000-09-15 17:23:09 GMT) From: Michael Everson To: "Unicode List" Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:23:05 -0800 (GMT-0800) Subject: RE: Tagging orthographic systems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by sunshine.math.utah.edu id LAA12886 Ar 11:36 +0100 2000-09-14, scríobh Marco.Cimarosti@icl.com: >Out of curiosity: is no "en-IE" tag needed for Éire? Does written Irish >English have any details different from other Englishes? None that I can think of. Apart from the regular need to write Irish names and words correctly with their acute accents, English orthography is, er, just as chaotic as it is in Britain. Michael Everson ** Everson Gunn Teoranta ** http://www.egt.ie 15 Port Chaeimhghein Íochtarach; Baile Átha Cliath 2; Éire/Ireland Vox +353 1 478 2597 ** Fax +353 1 478 2597 ** Mob +353 86 807 9169 27 Páirc an Fhéithlinn; Baile an Bhóthair; Co. Átha Cliath; Éire 15-Sep-2000 13:59:50-GMT,3655;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06548 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:59:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12554 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:24:34 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12551 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:24:29 -0400 Received: from remote142-180.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.180] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13ZvTt-0001bP-00; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:24:42 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000915144029.10d7c652@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:40:29 +0200 To: Thierry Bouche , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix In-Reply-To: <200009150831.KAA05396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <3.0.1.16.20000915032701.50b740b2@localhost> <3.0.1.16.20000907074650.10f7a098@localhost> <3.0.1.16.20000915032701.50b740b2@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id JAA12552 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:31 15.09.2000 +0200, Thierry Bouche wrote: >» I have implemeted this in `vpe', that will go >» to CTAN, because the files are too large for the list: >» CTAN:macros/latex/contrib/supported/oberdiek/vpe.{txt,pl,sty} > >maybe off topic, but how larger are the PDF files? * VTeX/Linux: source specials are generated by command line option -* eg: -*20 ==> you will have between 20 until 40 per page. The size of the pdf file will increase with option -*, but the perl script will not change the size. * pdfTeX, dvips: source specials by vpe.sty without option form: It depends on the other options, with nodupes the number can be reduced, ... * pdfTeX: vpe.sty with option form: The pdf files become quite large, the luxus of nicer markers has its price. per source special: * XObject that contains the printed version of the file name (perhaps a more low level implementation can save space, suggestions?). * A short button annotation. * A longer Launch annotation with three actions and the file name. Example: testmath.tex (amsLaTeX), 42 pages, compiled with pdfTeX: * without vpe.sty: 335 KB * with vpe.sty: []: 800 KB [nodupes]: 490 KB [form]: 2.9 MB [form,nodupes]: 1.0 MB [form,noeverymath]: 1.4 MB (therefore option form only recommended for documents with few pages.) Keep in mind, that vpe is only a tool for writing pdf documents and should not be used in final prints. >what action >launches the editor (right click?)? ?????? ????? Windows: the editor is configured in vpe.cfg, for example: \vpesetup{application={pfe.exe},paramters={-g $d $s}} Linux: Environment variables TEXEDIT or VPE, for example: VPE = 'xterm -e joe +%d %s' >also, could that be used under windows? yes. >(i'm running xemacs: does it have a server that could prevent from >launching a new editor?) (I am not using emacs. Somewhere I have read the tip "gnuclient".) Yours sincerely Heiko 15-Sep-2000 14:18:39-GMT,2377;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06986; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA29095; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:18:38 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix Message-ID: >> ... >> >(i'm running xemacs: does it have a server that could prevent from >> >launching a new editor?) >> ... emacs has an associated emacsclient program; if you set the EDITOR variable to emacsclient, instead of emacs, then any application that lauches the editor named by EDITOR will reuse the existing emacs session in which the command server-start has been issued. If there are multiple emacs processes running, then the last one in which server-start was run is the one that emacsclient will use. The invoking process can select a line number by the usual technique of running "$EDITOR +nnn filename"; the emacs buffer with that file will then be positioned with the cursor at the start of line number nnn. I've used this technique for years to get fast entry into emacs from other programs, such as mail clients and file viewers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Sep-2000 11:56:52-GMT,1796;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA05685 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 05:56:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA13800 for pdftex-list; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 07:18:58 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13797 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 07:18:56 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16301; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:19:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22229; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:19:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200009161119.NAA22229@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex-20000912 In-Reply-To: <200009151617.SAA27534@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> from Reinhard Kotucha at "Sep 15, 0 06:17:47 pm" To: reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de (Reinhard Kotucha) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:19:15 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > This is what I've done: > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > #!/bin/sh > > BUILDDIR=`pwd` > > tar -xzvf teTeX-src-beta-20000804.tar.gz > tar -xzvf pdftex-20000912.tar.gz as pdftex now is compiled with the beta sources from texlive, from version 0.14g* I upload the whole tree needed to build pdftex. So just fetch and unpack pdftex-20000912.tar.gz without anything more. Regards, Thanh 16-Sep-2000 17:08:09-GMT,2250;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10773 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:08:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13972 for pdftex-list; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:35:52 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13969 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:35:50 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA09618; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:36:13 +0200 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:36:13 +0200 Message-Id: <200009161636.SAA09618@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Han The Thanh Cc: reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de (Reinhard Kotucha), pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex-20000912 In-Reply-To: <200009161119.NAA22229@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <200009151617.SAA27534@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> <200009161119.NAA22229@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Thanh" == Han The Thanh writes: > as pdftex now is compiled with the beta sources from texlive, > from version 0.14g* I upload the whole tree needed to build > pdftex. So just fetch and unpack pdftex-20000912.tar.gz without > anything more. Hi Thanh, thank you for the hint. It works now. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Sep-2000 19:51:48-GMT,2056;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08839 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 13:51:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15347 for pdftex-list; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:12:33 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15344 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:12:30 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13ajrx-0006ne-00; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 20:12:53 +0100 Received: from max46.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.46] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13ajrw-0002nS-00; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 20:12:52 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14787.24426.361980.535666@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:54:18 +0100 (BST) To: reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex-20000912 In-Reply-To: <200009151617.SAA27534@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> References: <200009151617.SAA27534@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Reinhard Kotucha writes: > Hi, > when I tried to compile teTeX-src-beta-20000804 and pdftex-20000912 > I get the following message: ... > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `tex-src-special.ch', needed by `pdftex.ch'. Stop. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/dtp/build/tetex/teTeX-src-beta-20000804/texk/web2c' > make[1]: *** [all] Error 1 I guess because teTeX is out of step with the setup used on TeX Live and fpTeX, which Thanh is also using. you could grab the TeXLive source from http://sun2.dante.de/Master/source/ Sebastian 17-Sep-2000 21:18:51-GMT,2727;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10420 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:18:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15389 for pdftex-list; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 16:32:50 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15386 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 16:32:49 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA27230; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:33:16 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:33:16 +0200 Message-Id: <200009172033.WAA27230@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Sebastian Rahtz" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex-20000912 In-Reply-To: <14787.24426.361980.535666@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <200009151617.SAA27534@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> <14787.24426.361980.535666@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rahtz writes: >> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `tex-src-special.ch', > I guess because teTeX is out of step with the setup used on TeX > Live and fpTeX, which Thanh is also using. you could grab the I got this fixed with Thanh's help. I had to run "make pdftex" in the top level directory without mixing it up with the tetex sources. To get pdfetex, a few lines had to be added to the makefile. > TeXLive source from http://sun2.dante.de/Master/source/ Couldn't find anything there. --22:30:47-- http://sun2.dante.de:80/Master/source/ => `sun2.dante.de/Master/source/index.html' Connecting to sun2.dante.de:80... connected! HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 22:30:47 ERROR 404: Not Found. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Sep-2000 21:27:44-GMT,1769;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10558 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15406 for pdftex-list; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 16:54:32 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15403 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 16:54:30 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13alSj-0001Qu-00; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:54:57 +0100 Received: from max43.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.43] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13alSi-0004FN-00; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:54:57 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14789.12445.496638.501423@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:59:09 +0100 (BST) To: reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex-20000912 In-Reply-To: <200009172033.WAA27230@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> References: <200009151617.SAA27534@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> <14787.24426.361980.535666@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <200009172033.WAA27230@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Reinhard Kotucha writes: > > TeXLive source from http://sun2.dante.de/Master/source/ sorry: http://sun2.dante.de/texlive/Master/source/ sebastian 18-Sep-2000 0:38:38-GMT,4861;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14187 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:38:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15513 for pdftex-list; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:47:43 -0400 Received: from unknown (1Cust195.tnt22.atl2.da.uu.net [63.36.158.195]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA15509 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:47:38 -0400 From: To: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 16:07:41 Message-Id: <657.102878.224669@> Subject: laser printer toner cartridges Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk STATIC SYSTEMS 5334 LAKE VIEW CLUB ATLANTA GA 30338 770-399-0953 ***LASER PRINTER TONER CARTRIDGES*** ***FAX AND COPIER TONER*** WE ACCEPT GOVERNMENT, SCHOOL,UNIVERSITY AND LARGE CORPORATE PURCHASE ORDERS. 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I have a system working with dvips, but I want to escape from that. Sebastian 18-Sep-2000 12:58:21-GMT,2678;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27079 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:58:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16507 for pdftex-list; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:19:47 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16504 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:19:41 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17919; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:17:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA15071; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:17:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200009181217.OAA15071@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex and cropmarks In-Reply-To: <14789.59071.347429.891213@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> from Sebastian Rahtz at "Sep 18, 0 10:56:15 am" To: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:17:50 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I realize that I should know the answer, but what do other people use > to put cropmarks on their pdftex files? and do things like tell a > phototypesetter to print pages landscape instead of portrait (or > whatever)? I have a system working with dvips, but I want to escape > from that. a while ago when I typeset a book using pdflatex, I used the following code to put cropmarks and mirroring: ==================== cut here ========================== \DeclareOption{cropmark}{\PassOptionsToPackage{cross}{crop}} \DeclareOption{mirror}{\PassOptionsToPackage{mirror}{crop}} \ProcessOptions \newdimen\MediaWidth \MediaWidth=210mm \newdimen\MediaHeight \MediaHeight=297mm \RequirePackage[% paperwidth=147mm, paperheight=205mm, left=16mm, top=10mm, right=\zkrmargin, bottom=9mm, headheight=12pt, headsep=5pt, footskip=32pt]{geometry} \RequirePackage{crop} \CROP@center{\MediaHeight}{\MediaWidth} \AtBeginDocument{% \pdfpagewidth=\MediaWidth \pdfpageheight=\MediaHeight } \renewcommand*\CROP@reflect[1]{% \@tempdima=\paperwidth \advance\@tempdima -2in \pdfliteral{-1 0 0 1 0 0 cm}% \moveleft\@tempdima \vbox{#1}% } ==================== cut here ========================== As I am not so familiar to latex, perhaps the experts can improve the above code. Thanh 18-Sep-2000 14:36:05-GMT,1506;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29221 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:36:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16702 for pdftex-list; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:54:04 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16695 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:54:00 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13b1NN-0006s4-00; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:54:29 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13b1NN-0001b8-00; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:54:29 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14790.7859.598494.628945@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:54:59 +0100 To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex and cropmarks In-Reply-To: <200009181217.OAA15071@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <14789.59071.347429.891213@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <200009181217.OAA15071@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thanks, Thanh, very helpful. It makes sense. Sebastian 18-Sep-2000 14:51:04-GMT,2333;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29615 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:51:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16730 for pdftex-list; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:14:59 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16727 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:14:56 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id QAA19560; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:15:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id QAA03275; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:15:15 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:15:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200009181415.QAA03275@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex and cropmarks In-Reply-To: <14789.59071.347429.891213@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <14789.59071.347429.891213@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I've been using Phil's cropmrks.tex that way: \topcropmark1in plus 2em minus -.1pt \bottomcropmark-1in plus 2em minus -.1pt \advance\bottomcropmark by \paperheight \leftcropmark0in plus 2em minus -.1pt \rightcropmark0in plus 2em minus -.1pt \advance\rightcropmark by \paperwidth \pdfhorigin0pt \advance \oddsidemargin1in \advance \evensidemargin1in but I suppose crop.sty would do as well. the problem here is that you can't have the cropmarks out the BBox of the pages (looks like pdftex discards any non viewable material), so you can't have a prepress PDF suitable for on screen viewing. I dream occasionally of a pdftex -k option adding magics that would appear when you export to PS or feed to a typesetter... Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 18-Sep-2000 14:55:52-GMT,1665;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29461 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:45:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16773 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:45:00 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13b2Ag-0005hB-00; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:45:26 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13b2Ah-0002Xv-00; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:45:27 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14790.10917.311364.551900@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:45:57 +0100 To: ulm@kph.uni-mainz.de Cc: tex-fonts@tug.org Subject: Re: frutiger names in adobe.map In-Reply-To: <200009181428.QAA03349@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <"H00000770002e45a.0969207919.buffalo.u-blox.ch*"@MHS> <14789.57749.142024.816724@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <200009181428.QAA03349@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Ulrich Mueller writes: > Sebastian Rahtz writes: > > >> is 8r still o.k.? ther were times when LY1 was a favourite... > > 8r does not include /mu. ly1 does > > Did I miss something? My version of 8r.enc does include /mu: ah, OK. i missed it... 8r rules OK! sebastian 18-Sep-2000 16:26:38-GMT,2003;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02901 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:26:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16804 for pdftex-list; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:26:25 -0400 Received: from obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.132.55]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16801 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:26:23 -0400 Received: from tourmalet.chemie.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.180.87] ident=zech) by obelix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #6) id 13b2op-0005GU-00; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:26:55 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:28:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Torsten Zech X-Sender: zech@tourmalet.chemie.tu-chemnitz.de To: Sebastian Rahtz cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex and cropmarks In-Reply-To: <14789.59071.347429.891213@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > I realize that I should know the answer, but what do other people use > to put cropmarks on their pdftex files? Have you already tried the crop-package? This seems to work with pdflatex: ---------- \documentclass[a5paper]{article} \usepackage[cross,axes,a4center]{crop} \begin{document} pdftex and cropmarks, according to a question of Sebastian Rahtz \end{document} ---------- at least with my setup (tetex1.0.6, pdftex0.14f). Have fun, Torsten -- Chemnitz University of Technology phone: +49 (371) 531 1869 Dept. of Industrial Chemistry fax: +49 (371) 531 1837 Combinatorial Catalysis http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/chemie/tech 09107 Chemnitz, Germany http://www.torsten-zech.de 18-Sep-2000 16:28:44-GMT,1607;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02983 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:28:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16838 for pdftex-list; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:41:22 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16835 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:41:19 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13b33G-0001hk-00; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:41:50 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13b33H-0003bv-00; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:41:51 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14790.14300.923084.903920@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:42:20 +0100 To: torsten.zech@chemie.tu-chemnitz.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex and cropmarks In-Reply-To: References: <14789.59071.347429.891213@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Its all true, "crop" is an excellent package. thanks for the reminders! sebastian 18-Sep-2000 17:12:54-GMT,1428;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04395 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:12:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16867 for pdftex-list; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:58:16 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA16864 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:58:15 -0400 From: tim@maths.tcd.ie Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 18 Sep 2000 16:58:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: Why am I getting EOF at end of MetaPost graphics? To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:58:46 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL49 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <200009181658.aa25007@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I've just started getting EOF in the PDF output of each MetaPost fig -- or at least if it happened before I never noticed it. Is there something simple I'm overlooking? I know if comes from the %%EOF at the end of the mpost output as it disappears if I delete this line. But can I either tell pdflatex to ignore this line, or else tell mpost not to supply it? All advice gratefully received. 18-Sep-2000 22:10:17-GMT,1770;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13617 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:10:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17357 for pdftex-list; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:05:36 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17354 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:05:33 -0400 Received: from ermine.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.13]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13b873-0003a7-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:06:05 +0100 Received: from max14.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.14] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by ermine.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13b873-0007I2-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:06:05 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14790.25681.9724.520123@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:52:01 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex, cropmarks In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000918174827.019f9a90@pop.wxs.nl> References: <3.0.6.32.20000918172402.0179ec70@pop.wxs.nl> <14789.62220.122055.673040@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <3.0.6.32.20000918174827.019f9a90@pop.wxs.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen writes: > texexec --pdfarr --paper=A4A3 file --markin which is brilliant. just what I wanted, without any need to change the input file. Hans is a hero. Sebastian 18-Sep-2000 23:16:38-GMT,1232;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15211 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:16:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17505 for pdftex-list; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:18:06 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17502 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:18:05 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01379 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:18:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: pdftex list Subject: Off Topic (Bad joke) [was: pdftex, cropmarks] In-Reply-To: <14790.25681.9724.520123@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > which is brilliant. just what I wanted, without any need to change the > input file. Hans is a hero. > So, now we have Hagen's Heros. Sorry, couldn't resist! 19-Sep-2000 0:34:01-GMT,1505;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17050 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:33:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17557 for pdftex-list; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:13:51 -0400 Received: from gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu (GS231.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.194.105]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA17554 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:13:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:13:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Riley To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Transparent Graphics X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14790.41035.514935.472154@gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am wondering if there is any support for transparent graphics in pdftex. It doesn't seem so (at least for PNG) in my version of pdftex (3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1)) (warning message for a transparent PNG shown below). Is this a limitation of pdftex or of the PDF format? Is there any way to include transparent graphics via pdftex? Warning: pdflatex (file dragon3.png): can't handle alpha channel correctly, str ipped (please report bugs to pdftex@tug.org) Thank you! -- Pat Riley Second Year Ph.D. Student Computer Science Department, Carnegie Mellon University 19-Sep-2000 8:47:19-GMT,2996;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA26630 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:47:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18314 for pdftex-list; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:07:23 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18311 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:07:20 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13bIWu-0003Ao-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:13:28 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA16452 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:07:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13bIPr-004wwRC; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:06:11 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:06:11 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Transparent Graphics Message-ID: <20000919100611.I14045@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <14790.41035.514935.472154@gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PPYy/fEw/8QCHSq3" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14790.41035.514935.472154@gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu>; from pfr+@cs.cmu.edu on Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 07:13:45PM -0400 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --PPYy/fEw/8QCHSq3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-09-18 19:13:45 -0400, Patrick Riley wrote: > shown below). Is this a limitation of pdftex or of the PDF format? Is > there any way to include transparent graphics via pdftex? Neither PDF nor PostScript support transparency directly, although Adobe is working to include it in the next version of PDF (1.4). Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --PPYy/fEw/8QCHSq3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOccec/hOymx+mbrBAQFQ4AgAh6XYoXHR6dOwcSwR56pVT/0g/RP/VEo5 EYVNXd2puhWv8oxYUDDOguErhgvjQv9DacbODvPBtSSLXO4CxTdg7nHBt6PeyQ+w tpJkZsTZy4N4nPBEStLceevu9Lv734gPqKmpJziNim3pzghhZt5g/Mjbw0b5V4CH heIrryPTY+5dmycl0o9BN/ihrLfxPX9nh9g71AwfizWiqnQoylx0ox5thgG3uISD vZrJe4yH4osabkevZryF/fKu4NRzzynE61k3l7oWFzJ30QAMectKPHzOmdboHbqZ Aw+m17IwJWa0AfBkXWp2lgiBWjrvFs/RceeoNg4R/DbHd9MHIIUMiw== =6dhu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PPYy/fEw/8QCHSq3-- 19-Sep-2000 13:09:50-GMT,2412;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01658 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 07:09:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA18569 for pdftex-list; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:32:07 -0400 Received: from asterix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (asterix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de [134.109.132.84]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18566 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:32:05 -0400 Received: from tourmalet.chemie.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.180.87] ident=zech) by asterix.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #6) id 13bMZk-0001Xv-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:32:40 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:34:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Torsten Zech X-Sender: zech@tourmalet.chemie.tu-chemnitz.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Transparent Graphics In-Reply-To: <20000919100611.I14045@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tug.org id IAA18567 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Martin Schröder wrote: > On 2000-09-18 19:13:45 -0400, Patrick Riley wrote: > > shown below). Is this a limitation of pdftex or of the PDF format? Is > > there any way to include transparent graphics via pdftex? > > Neither PDF nor PostScript support transparency directly, > although Adobe is working to include it in the next version of > PDF (1.4). I'm not sure whether this is the answer Patrick asked for. What you can of course do with pdf/pdftex is: - to have for instance a colored background - a transparent pdf vector graphic - place the graphic onto the background I've done this very often with vector graphics in eps-format, distilled to pdf. Of course, pixel graphics like jpeg or maybe also png may not work in this manner. So I suggest to use transparent pdf graphics within pdftex. Have fun, Torsten -- Chemnitz University of Technology phone: +49 (371) 531 1869 Dept. of Industrial Chemistry fax: +49 (371) 531 1837 Combinatorial Catalysis http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/chemie/tech 09107 Chemnitz, Germany http://www.torsten-zech.de 19-Sep-2000 15:24:55-GMT,1367;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05153 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:24:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18810 for pdftex-list; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:37:36 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18807 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:37:34 -0400 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (neveryon.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.220]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16800 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:38:10 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex for fpTeX / TeXLive on win32 From: Fabrice Popineau Date: 19 Sep 2000 16:38:11 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.2 (Nike) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The very latest pdftex binaries based on web2c for win32 are available from ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/fptex/standalone/ . This is the place where I will upload new things from now. Check http://www.fptex.org/ for announcements. Thanks to Dante for hosting these files. -- Fabrice Popineau 20-Sep-2000 15:25:53-GMT,3075;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07161 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:25:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20291 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:22:29 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20288 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:22:25 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07981; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:23:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18859; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:23:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200009201423.QAA18859@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Protruding chars with pdftex 0.14g In-Reply-To: from Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler at "Sep 20, 0 04:05:49 pm" To: ujr@physik.phy.tu-dresden.de (Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:23:02 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I was using the protruding chars feature with pdftex 0.14e, and > it worked quite well. Now I have 0.14g with a new version of fptex > installed. I read in the changelog that you posted to the mailing > list, that \rpcode and \lpcode are now font-dependent. I also found > the macros that you sent to this list. > > Unfortunately I can't understand this (lack of experience and/or > knowledge) :-( > > I would be grateful, if you could help me. I'm using Adobe Garamond > type1 fonts, and I'm pretty clueless how to use \rpcode with them. > > If I use > \font\f=padr or \font\f=padr10 > pdflatex chokes with error message "unable to load font" (TFM), > if I use > \rpcode\font`-=700 (I used \rpcode`-=700 before) > nothing appears to change anymore. > > Thank you for any hints in advance, it would be useful if you can provide a working sample; at least the begining of the document. Wihout seeing what you are doing, here is what I can tell: If you are using LaTeX, I guess something like \AtBeginDocument{% \setprotcode\font } is enough (providing that you have \input{protcode.tex} before \begin{document}) If you wish to protrude not only the body font but also \small, \large, \it etc. as well, the simplest way to do it is probably: \AtBeginDocument{% \setprotcode\font {\small \setprotcode\font} {\large \setprotcode\font} {\it \setprotcode\font} } In general, if you load font manually (by saying e.g. \font\f=cmr10), you can use \setprotcode\f. If you don't know the control sequence for a font, you can still switch to the font inside a group and call \setprotcode\font, as this assignment is global. Thanh 20-Sep-2000 18:45:00-GMT,1549;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13446 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:44:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20533 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:50:13 -0400 Received: from www1.gmx.net (www.gmx.net [194.221.183.41]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20530 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:50:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 1469 invoked by uid 0); 20 Sep 2000 17:50:20 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:50:20 +0200 (MEST) From: migis garb To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: please send me pdftex examples.tex Nonmember X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001578616@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [62.104.214.68] Message-ID: <1455.969472220@www1.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hallo texusers users, i would like to publish my document (\documentclass{article}) with pdf months ago someone sent me his tex file including all the necesarry packages to create nice pdf output (i.e. special fonts etc.) but unfortunately i ´ve lost these. Could some of you send me something like this again please, best would be if there are comments, for what are the loaded packages for. Thank you very much your migis -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net 20-Sep-2000 17:17:16-GMT,2293;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10582; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13015; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:17:08 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: PDF Reference Manual, 2nd edition Message-ID: A new, and much expanded, edition of the PDF reference manual has recently appeared: @String{pub-AW = "Ad{\-d}i{\-s}on-Wes{\-l}ey"} @String{pub-AW:adr = "Reading, MA, USA"} @Book{Adobe:2000:PRA, author = "{Adobe Systems Incorporated}", title = "{PDF} reference: {Adobe} portable document format, version 1.3", publisher = pub-AW, address = pub-AW:adr, edition = "Second", pages = "xvi + 679", year = "2000", ISBN = "0-201-61588-6", LCCN = "QA76.76.T49 P38 2000", bibdate = "Wed Sep 20 11:06:40 2000", price = "US\$49.95", acknowledgement = ack-nhfb, } Some online bookstores offer it for about $10 less than the quoted list price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. 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Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Sep-2000 17:55:03-GMT,2816;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11829 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:55:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20500 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:16:40 -0400 Received: from sunshine.math.utah.edu (csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20497 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:16:37 -0400 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10582; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13015; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:17:08 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: PDF Reference Manual, 2nd edition Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk A new, and much expanded, edition of the PDF reference manual has recently appeared: @String{pub-AW = "Ad{\-d}i{\-s}on-Wes{\-l}ey"} @String{pub-AW:adr = "Reading, MA, USA"} @Book{Adobe:2000:PRA, author = "{Adobe Systems Incorporated}", title = "{PDF} reference: {Adobe} portable document format, version 1.3", publisher = pub-AW, address = pub-AW:adr, edition = "Second", pages = "xvi + 679", year = "2000", ISBN = "0-201-61588-6", LCCN = "QA76.76.T49 P38 2000", bibdate = "Wed Sep 20 11:06:40 2000", price = "US\$49.95", acknowledgement = ack-nhfb, } Some online bookstores offer it for about $10 less than the quoted list price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Sep-2000 21:13:13-GMT,3003;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18115 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:13:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20763 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:39:21 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20760 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:39:19 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13bqkK-0007ql-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:45:36 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA14071 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:36:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13bqaV-004wwRC; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:35:27 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:35:27 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: PDF Reference Manual, 2nd edition Message-ID: <20000920223527.A15973@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from beebe@math.utah.edu on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 11:17:08AM -0600 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-09-20 11:17:08 -0600, Nelson Beebe wrote: > Some online bookstores offer it for about $10 less than the quoted > list price. The pdf is available for free from http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/DOCS/PDFRef.pdf But the index has no links -- they should have used hyperref. :-) Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOckfj/hOymx+mbrBAQHqiwf+NgzSSoEdckgXhXc/0Njjn8IxfORcjgon ZBRIlpKO0wnzjDMUBH18bxsP7AawBKl5hEfuYLf6xZjKNOLrMAVIuFhQrUotQzpo anRvTfHCHUYi6bc+qmLRiYeV1IUlilT9yE43Gka6/1WZFdlYpschSD2j/Ui57woR ftBYu5GT0uGjXDfnz+ovpAyeYG+Ua04bH5gCYIQFx6d/FJm1NO0OcIbalBBHYBP0 SJ9O9CgxE6bT5HGy5Kw7CTHf0pIbbhSppkKFYCJonxVBSx5KRnIpzjihIGyxC0fn NYymqrHFGqOYNYoXrWyIHoXSpJggGA/yqiEU6xsF+yfkEAh8E62OOw== =KotP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- 21-Sep-2000 0:21:01-GMT,1691;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22541 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:20:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20905 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:36:39 -0400 Received: from sp2n17-t.missouri.edu (sp2n17-t.missouri.edu [128.206.2.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20902 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:36:37 -0400 Received: from [128.206.164.38] (mu-164038.dhcp.missouri.edu [128.206.164.38]) by sp2n17-t.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA24596; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:36:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000920223527.A15973@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <20000920223527.A15973@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:38:42 -0500 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , pdftex@tug.org From: Oscar Chavez Subject: Re: PDF Reference Manual, 2nd edition Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id TAA20903 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:35 PM +0200 9/20/00, Martin Schröder wrote: >The pdf is available for free from >http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/DOCS/PDFRef.pdf > >But the index has no links -- they should have used hyperref. :-) True, but the table of contents does have links. Oscar Chavez oc918@mizzou.edu 21-Sep-2000 2:23:37-GMT,11755;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25021 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:23:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20985 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:50:12 -0400 Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20982 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:50:10 -0400 Received: from biology.usu.edu (129.123.16.3 [129.123.16.3]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id RYBZL0FD; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:50:51 -0600 Message-ID: <39C96A04.1EE704F7@biology.usu.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:53:08 -0600 From: "James W. Haefner" Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX , xfigmail@epb1.lbl.gov Subject: Weird pdf printing problem Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D02006F3A2E6F422CF970724" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D02006F3A2E6F422CF970724 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit warning: this message contains a 3K pdf file Greetings: I have a problem with printing a pdflatex generated pdf file that contains a particular pdf graphic file. This may appear not to be relevant for this list, but the facts suggest that pdflatex is implicated. First, the required version numbers: I use Linux Suse 6.3, pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.2x) 3.14159-0.14f-released-20000525 kpathsea version 3.3.2x, the latest pdftex.def file from the website (alas, without version numbers on the file name) Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0 (2000-02-03) Copyright (C) 2000 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA., and Acroread 4.0, x86 linux stout0518. I print to an HP 4050 postscript printer. Here is the sequence of events that produce the problem. 1. In Xfig (vers 3.2.3c), I generate a graphic which is an ellipse filled with a "pattern" of diagonal lines. I export it as a pdf file. 2. If I load that graphic pdf file into Acroread, it is correctly displayed *and* printed. (I.e., the diagonal fill pattern appears.) 3. I then create a latex file that includes that graphic as follows: \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage{array,fancyhdr} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png,.tif} \special{papersize=8.5in,11in} \includegraphics*[scale=1.0]{Images/test.pdf} \end{document} 4. If I load this pdf file into Acroread, it displays correctly, but does not print correctly: the border of the ellipse is displayed, but not the pattern of diagonal lines. (Other xfig "fill" types do not have this problem.) I attach the pdf file produced by pdflatex in the possibly vain hope that someone (a) cares and (b) might have a suggestion why the graphic itself prints correctly, but the graphic imbedded by pdflatex does not. I can supply the graphic pdf or fig file to individuals if necessary. Thanks in advance. Jim -- James W. 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(8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28722 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:27:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA21350 for pdftex-list; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:40:16 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA21347 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:40:13 -0400 Received: from remote142-125.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.125] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13byAE-0000LU-00; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:40:51 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000921060922.29c7299e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:09:22 +0200 To: "James W. Haefner" , pdfTeX , xfigmail@epb1.lbl.gov From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: Weird pdf printing problem In-Reply-To: <39C96A04.1EE704F7@biology.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 19:53 20.09.2000 -0600, James W. Haefner wrote: >the latest pdftex.def file from the website (alas, without version >numbers on the file name) The latest version is 2000/09/14 v0.3e: http://www.tug.org/application/pdftex/pdftex.def >Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0 (2000-02-03) 6.01 fixes some bugs. >Acroread 4.0, x86 linux stout0518. I print to an HP 4050 postscript >printer. Version 4.05 fixes some PCL printing problems. >\documentclass[11pt]{article} >\usepackage{array,fancyhdr} >\usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} >\begin{document} >\DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png,.tif} This is already done by pdftex.def >\special{papersize=8.5in,11in} This is ignored by pdfTeX. \setlength{\pdfpagewidth}{\paperwidth}% \setlength{\pdfpageheight}{\paperheight}% >\includegraphics*[scale=1.0]{Images/test.pdf} clip and scale=1 does not make sense. Yours sincerely Heiko 21-Sep-2000 8:51:46-GMT,3271;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02453 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:51:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA21557 for pdftex-list; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:07:27 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21554 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:07:24 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13c1UC-0003jp-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:13:40 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA19552 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:06:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13c1MZ-004wwRC; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:05:47 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:05:47 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Specifying papersize (was: Weird pdf printing problem) Message-ID: <20000921100547.R14045@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <39C96A04.1EE704F7@biology.usu.edu> <3.0.1.16.20000921060922.29c7299e@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Sw7tCqrGA+HQ0/zt" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20000921060922.29c7299e@localhost>; from oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de on Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 06:09:22AM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --Sw7tCqrGA+HQ0/zt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-09-21 06:09:22 +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > At 19:53 20.09.2000 -0600, James W. Haefner wrote: > >\special{papersize=3D8.5in,11in} >=20 > This is ignored by pdfTeX. > \setlength{\pdfpagewidth}{\paperwidth}% > \setlength{\pdfpageheight}{\paperheight}% \usepackage[a4paper,pdftex]{geometry} :-) Or even better: \usepackage[a4paper]{geometry} and use this geometry.cfg: ------ \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \ExecuteOptions{a4paper,dvips} \else \ExecuteOptions{a4paper,pdftex} \fi ------ Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --Sw7tCqrGA+HQ0/zt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOcnBW/hOymx+mbrBAQH1owf/dLpjLDVHNbHNvAVexwFB/oyExSpjSdIp WwtAOvW1jFdmSiqgyKX8doq647gUAQ3FnPXAN0CIQd2Op86P0b/UJbRCjrf3ovjJ Vkw8mnYK7ifiz/nQBvMYfJE6sePZvMrpMjhTKZFycUceARvcMjj5VzzjnU8eJ75e YO/IiSiuUGa0kHVpRjph52vVW5maN5TIDW0NyT8H2GLFCCUIybFHcwirAbV9RN7I 29Ca/vcAxgzb9mFMnrYQ541tUwxnYyvZFD6wlIjSvxhB50EPaG/vo2dkROOfk0M9 4L6m9wIUNOoVyjfvG4KFCabhMmoDgntCNPp+VktbXm+N7JFM2Thi/A== =FWTH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sw7tCqrGA+HQ0/zt-- 21-Sep-2000 8:54:16-GMT,2602;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02472 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:54:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA21572 for pdftex-list; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:13:09 -0400 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21569 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:13:06 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.192]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G189I602.5P2; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:13:18 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000921100817.00881bc0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:08:17 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: PDF Reference Manual, 2nd edition Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20000920223527.A15973@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id EAA21570 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:35 PM 9/20/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-09-20 11:17:08 -0600, Nelson Beebe wrote: >> Some online bookstores offer it for about $10 less than the quoted >> list price. > >The pdf is available for free from >http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/DOCS/PDFRef.pdf > >But the index has no links -- they should have used hyperref. :-) In general those docs make a nice showcase of funny things, especially when you visualize the links, since (at least for years) that demonstrated that adobe tools generated random hyperlinks at page boundaries, spurious links in tocs, rather strange and inconsistent links spanning the margins, and most of all, link bboxes with funny inconsistent dimensions. Even if their manuals do have good links now, so far tex has beaten those docs in accuracy. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 8:55:54-GMT,3195;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02514 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:55:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA21579 for pdftex-list; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:18:41 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21576 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 04:18:38 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13c1f7-0003sF-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:24:57 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA19746 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:17:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13c1Wu-004wwRC; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:16:28 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:16:28 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: PDF Reference Manual, 2nd edition Message-ID: <20000921101628.S14045@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20000920223527.A15973@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Uu2n37VG4rOBDVuR" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from oc918@mizzou.edu on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 06:38:42PM -0500 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --Uu2n37VG4rOBDVuR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-09-20 18:38:42 -0500, Oscar Chavez wrote: > At 10:35 PM +0200 9/20/00, Martin Schr=F6der wrote: > >But the index has no links -- they should have used hyperref. :-) >=20 > True, but the table of contents does have links. True, but the missing links in the index make the online version nearly useless as a reference tool to me: I can't look up things in the index and then simply click on the index entry. Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --Uu2n37VG4rOBDVuR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOcnD3PhOymx+mbrBAQE5zgf+L5++O1PzAqIk37bHmuH/u+dU+dOi4YvL m167mQVWArjnp36zJRxYqt5HvEpvolFEvW+AsTPW2ivOdiEYKK+z8lOQD1irtLn+ TMeQLfoJ1PCMKQq5W4Jdm80beLUpQLPhPwtbxNmfQpyx9FMHSQhU9LIKMaFIsQIi uxoZc6hDqOw5xVEX8DNds7Gc5GVb4noqIc5xaQpXWpTk2yokCt6QELoH2xxscGK7 /hUZ//PuNGJjZYJtb+UA5F6HRAfefMQpX8wlT4GmpuVfXVJ3Y1Ps0+uNR3Ubh2oA XrDYtQTNiLlujr9E20zt3PXG0l57VhjD23T1HR8GwU2QikUwJgkRcQ== =7vUk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Uu2n37VG4rOBDVuR-- 21-Sep-2000 12:52:49-GMT,2130;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06611 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:52:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA21823 for pdftex-list; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:14:40 -0400 Received: from server-a.cs.interbusiness.it (HA-server-a.cs.interbusiness.it [151.99.250.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21820 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:14:37 -0400 Received: from ballabl.riskmap.net ([213.82.18.20]) by server-a.cs.interbusiness.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00972; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:07:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20000921141728.00a424d0@mail.riskmap.net> X-Sender: 45083.luigi.ballabio@mail.riskmap.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:21:02 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , PdfTeX mailing list From: Luigi Ballabio Subject: Re: PDF Reference Manual, 2nd edition In-Reply-To: <20000921101628.S14045@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <20000920223527.A15973@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:16 AM 9/21/00 +0200, you wrote: >On 2000-09-20 18:38:42 -0500, Oscar Chavez wrote: > > At 10:35 PM +0200 9/20/00, Martin Schr=F6der wrote: > > >But the index has no links -- they should have used hyperref. :-) > > > > True, but the table of contents does have links. > >True, but the missing links in the index make the online version >nearly useless as a reference tool to me: I can't look up things >in the index and then simply click on the index entry. You can tell Acrobat Reader to jump at the listed page number. I admit it's not as elegant, but it's just a matter of 3 to 5 keystrokes instead of 1 click... Bye, Luigi 21-Sep-2000 13:49:37-GMT,2579;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07682 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:49:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21886 for pdftex-list; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:10:31 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21883 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:10:28 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.208]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id G18NAM01.N11; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:11:10 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000921143846.00b2cae0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:38:46 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: PDF Reference Manual, 2nd edition Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20000921101628.S14045@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <20000920223527.A15973@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id JAA21884 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:16 AM 9/21/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-09-20 18:38:42 -0500, Oscar Chavez wrote: >> At 10:35 PM +0200 9/20/00, Martin Schröder wrote: >> >But the index has no links -- they should have used hyperref. :-) >> >> True, but the table of contents does have links. > >True, but the missing links in the index make the online version >nearly useless as a reference tool to me: I can't look up things >in the index and then simply click on the index entry. I cannot imagine that yoru company does not have the full acrobat suite in which case you can generate an index using catalog. Also,. my experience is that searching in the reference is more fruitful than the index. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 14:37:18-GMT,1896;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08796 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:37:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21944 for pdftex-list; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:51:41 -0400 Received: from ipc4.uib.es (ipc4.uib.es [130.206.33.24]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21941 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:50:22 -0400 Received: from ipc4.uib.es (pcignasi.uib.es [130.206.134.178]) by ipc4.uib.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10297 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:37:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39CA10D9.F76AD223@ipc4.uib.es> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:44:57 +0200 From: Ignasi =?iso-8859-1?Q?Furi=F3?= Caldentey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: unsuccessful printed paper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, some month ago I sent a paper for a conference. I used pdftex because they accepted word or .pdf papers. In the printed proceedings my paper appears with bad mathematical symbols, i.e. \left and \right (,),[,]; \sum, \prod and \int commands appear only with the upper part printed. I sent a .pdf file which is well displayed and printed in my computer, so I think something was missing in the final pdf. Is it possible?, any suggestions for future papers? Thank you, Ignasi -- ------------------------------------------------------- Ignasi Furió Caldentey ignasi@ipc4.uib.es Dpt. Matemàtiques i informàtica http://dmi.uib.es Universitat de les Illes Balears http://www.uib.es Fax: +34 971 173003 Tel.: +34 971 173196 ------------------------------------------------------- 21-Sep-2000 21:17:48-GMT,1978;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20282 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:17:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22227 for pdftex-list; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:11:22 -0400 Received: from houston.jhuapl.edu (houston.jhuapl.edu [128.244.26.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22224 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:11:21 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) id <0G19009016R73Q@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stxmslab1 (stx-mslab1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.27.177]) by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) with SMTP id <0G19004C76R27H@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:11:15 -0400 From: Skip Collins Subject: Re: unsuccessful printed paper To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <00df01c02408$1be4ed60$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <39CA10D9.F76AD223@ipc4.uib.es> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > any suggestions for future papers? aifont If someone is going to read your pdf with an unknown reader, and especially if they are going to print and publish it from an unknown printer, it is in your interest to work around font bugs in various pdf rendering software. The aifont package solves some of these problems for the Blue Sky/AMS/Y&Y freely available type 1 Computer Modern/AMS font collection. It uses virtual font magic. Get it at your local ctan. 21-Sep-2000 23:15:18-GMT,2139;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23562 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22371 for pdftex-list; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:29:36 -0400 Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (root@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu [128.46.109.85]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22368 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:29:35 -0400 Received: from purdue.edu (hersh.nserl.purdue.edu [128.210.150.223]) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3moyman) with ESMTP id RAA07882 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:30:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <39CA8C08.6B566D32@purdue.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:30:32 -0500 From: Frederic Darboux Organization: NSERL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: unsuccessful printed paper References: <39CA10D9.F76AD223@ipc4.uib.es> <00df01c02408$1be4ed60$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Is your advice valid for printing and publishing postscript file too ? (OK, OK, I am off-topic :-/ ) Skip Collins wrote: > > > any suggestions for future papers? > > aifont > > If someone is going to read your pdf with an unknown reader, and especially > if they are going to print and publish it from an unknown printer, it is in > your interest to work around font bugs in various pdf rendering software. The > aifont package solves some of these problems for the Blue Sky/AMS/Y&Y freely > available type 1 Computer Modern/AMS font collection. It uses virtual font > magic. Get it at your local ctan. Frederic Darboux ....................................................... National Soil Erosion Research Laboratory 1196 SOIL Building Purdue University West Lafayette, Indiana, 47907-1196 USA Ph: +1 765 494-6645 Fax: +1 765 494-5948 Email: darboux@purdue.edu Web: 22-Sep-2000 5:04:21-GMT,2316;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00407 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:04:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA22867 for pdftex-list; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:16:31 -0400 Received: from karst.Princeton.EDU (karst.Princeton.EDU [128.112.96.22]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22864 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:16:25 -0400 Received: from gravel (gravel [128.112.96.2]) by karst.Princeton.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA330058 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:17:10 -0400 From: Hans Fredrik Nordhaug X-Sender: nordhaug@gravel To: pdfTeX Subject: newest pdftex binary for IRIX 6.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I have just installed the newest teTeX with precompiled binaries, but it contains just a 13 version pdftex. I need at least a 14 version - preferably as new as possible. Does anybody have a binary for IRIX 6.2 (or lower) ? If so please contact me. Thanks in advance. [I have tried several times to compile it myself but there is such a mess of incomplete versions of gnu software on the system that it seems impossible. I'm not in the position to install compilers and so on - just maintaining the TeX-distribution. I have done this successfully on HP-UX several times so it is with heavy heart that I bother you all :-) ] Regards, Hans Fredrik -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Fredrik Nordhaug | web: www.mi.uib.no/~hansfn Ph.D. student at | phone: (+47) 55 58 48 79 Department of Mathematics, | fax: (+47) 55 58 96 72 University of Bergen | e-mail: hanfn@mi.uib.no -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fall 2000: Visiting at the Department of Civil Engineering, Princeton University. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Sep-2000 6:57:00-GMT,1882;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02480 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:56:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22942 for pdftex-list; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 02:22:35 -0400 Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22939 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 02:22:33 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (pool0069.cvx23-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.204.69]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA11974 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39CAFBC6.30E5AD0@csee.usf.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:27:18 -0700 From: "Himanshu J. Gohel" Reply-To: gohel@csee.usf.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Re: newest pdftex binary for IRIX 6.2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Fredrik Nordhaug wrote: > Does anybody have a binary for IRIX 6.2 (or lower) ? ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/snapshots/20000912/ I haven't installed it yet, so I can't say if it's been compiled for IRIX 6.2 or not. > [I have tried several times to compile it myself but there is such > a mess of incomplete versions of gnu software on the system that it http://freeware.sgi.com/ Get precompiled GCC and other binaries. If you want to recompile pdftex you can look up recent (few months) posts about compiling on IRIX. -- Himanshu Gohel, mailto:gohel@csee.usf.edu 22-Sep-2000 12:13:20-GMT,1999;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07901 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 06:13:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA23280 for pdftex-list; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:33:47 -0400 Received: from relay1.jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA23277 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:33:43 -0400 Received: from tiger (tiger.jet.msk.su) [193.124.4.1] by relay1.jet.msk.su with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 13cR5t-0004xW-00; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:34:17 +0400 Received: from david.service.jet.msk.su [192.168.10.103] (root) by tiger.jet.msk.su with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 13cR5s-0002dT-00; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:34:16 +0400 Received: from tobotras by david.service.jet.msk.su with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13cR5s-00058U-00; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:34:16 +0400 To: Thierry Bouche Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Launch application with options under Unix References: <3.0.1.16.20000907074650.10f7a098@localhost> <3.0.1.16.20000915032701.50b740b2@localhost> <200009150831.KAA05396@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Boris Tobotras Date: 22 Sep 2000 15:34:16 +0400 In-Reply-To: Thierry Bouche's message of "Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:31:36 +0200 (MET DST)" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Arches" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Thierry" == Thierry Bouche writes: Thierry> (i'm running xemacs: does it have a server that could prevent from Thierry> launching a new editor?) For newer xemacsen: do M-x gnuserv-start RET, there will be your server. gnuclient is a client :) -- Best regards, -- Boris. 22-Sep-2000 15:40:48-GMT,1609;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12164 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:40:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23535 for pdftex-list; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:05:02 -0400 Received: from karst.Princeton.EDU (karst.Princeton.EDU [128.112.96.22]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23532 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:05:00 -0400 Received: from gravel (gravel [128.112.96.2]) by karst.Princeton.EDU (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA346564 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:05:46 -0400 From: Hans Fredrik Nordhaug X-Sender: nordhaug@gravel To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: newest pdftex binary for IRIX 6.2 (not solved) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Han The Thanh wrote: > check out the binaries for iris at > ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/snapshots/20000912/ I have checked them out. There is no readme file but they seem to be compiled for IRIX 6.5 (>IP22) and hence not useful for me at all. [They don't run on 6.2 and on 6.5 (IP22) it aborts with 'Program not supported by architecture'.] So I have to ask again: Is there anybody that has compiled a new (the newest) version of pdftex for (the ancient) IRIX 6.2 ? Regards, Hans Fredrik 22-Sep-2000 17:42:51-GMT,3021;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15932 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:42:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23699 for pdftex-list; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:09:39 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23696 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:09:38 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13cWQc-0001JP-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:16:02 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA14085 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:09:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13cWJB-004wwRC; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:08:21 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:08:21 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: newest pdftex binary for IRIX 6.2 (solved) Message-ID: <20000922190821.I14045@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eLe8FOcWSbbyMVJD" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from nordhaug@karst.princeton.edu on Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 11:05:46AM -0400 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --eLe8FOcWSbbyMVJD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-09-22 11:05:46 -0400, Hans Fredrik Nordhaug wrote: > Is there anybody that has compiled a new (the newest) version of > pdftex for (the ancient) IRIX 6.2 ? http://www.oneiros.de/tex/pdftex/pdftex-20000912-irix-n32.tar.gz and it's also at http://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/Incoming/ Nice weekend Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --eLe8FOcWSbbyMVJD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOcuSBfhOymx+mbrBAQHeFwgAmVSveBtCkU53NXeFqLl1NX7QFlT1w9I0 pvi7ckrRU6lTZS34dP5/l0FG9uJbZCfJcIN/2Kr+v8/gPlvp/+mTKmSoahFBt6g6 SY8xhH96hqvWnY3/uKLumARsdlM/iZ0RoMKaFA5XUJJ8wutqzmhobAjT+SxUic+q 3jPbGuQ7nq930uThW4G7+XSkmQG/BoYlBcwVxjGqHR23AOBxUy5LCUc6XfKpZ3Jh tS7SQD2r+2IAh8qf/9Lg+Cg4UrIMONlmbIpgpe2Wu2R4OVz13BQ4rlW6JjTOrB+j f74fSqjT4ceJaQI+aNUKUa9euQAXTKAF1KsAz1awxO2JtmNE7/lPqA== =whse -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eLe8FOcWSbbyMVJD-- 22-Sep-2000 17:50:51-GMT,1976;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16151 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:50:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23692 for pdftex-list; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:05:00 -0400 Received: from houston.jhuapl.edu (houston.jhuapl.edu [128.244.26.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23689 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:04:58 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) id <0G1A00C01SSNH2@houston.jhuapl.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stxmslab1 (stx-mslab1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.27.177]) by houston.jhuapl.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40040) with SMTP id <0G1A00992SSH7K@houston.jhuapl.edu>; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:04:50 -0400 From: Skip Collins Subject: Re: unsuccessful printed paper To: Frederic Darboux , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <002e01c024b7$3b8bb2c0$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <39CA10D9.F76AD223@ipc4.uib.es> <00df01c02408$1be4ed60$b11bf480@jhuapl.edu> <39CA8C08.6B566D32@purdue.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Frederic Darboux wrote: > Is your advice valid for printing and publishing postscript file too ? Yes, though postscript interpreters ususally have no problem with characters in the 0-31 range. If your postscript might ever need to be imported into some graphics program (like AI) for editing, annotation, etc., it sure make things easier if you use aifont. sc 25-Sep-2000 16:18:37-GMT,2654;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02071 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27719 for pdftex-list; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:34:30 -0400 Received: from pickup3-ld.pvd.loa.net (pickup.loa.com [199.171.167.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27711 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:34:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 2420 invoked by uid 0); 25 Sep 2000 15:31:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO default) ([209.222.73.169]) (envelope-sender ) by pickup3-ld.pvd.loa.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <>; 25 Sep 2000 15:31:52 -0000 Message-ID: <000301c026fe$26e40400$a949ded1@default> From: "helen bittar" To: "pdflatex info" Subject: Like to subscribe Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:18:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C026D9.EA53E7E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C026D9.EA53E7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to subscribe to pdftex. I'm brand new to it, and have already = run into a thorny problem: I can't customize headers or create = footlines. Looked at Piet van Oostrum's 'fancyhdr' but it is a *.dvi. = It's my understanding that pdflatex bypasses the dvi step. Do you have = any suggestions? ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C026D9.EA53E7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd like to subscribe to pdftex.  = I'm brand=20 new to it, and have already run into a thorny problem:  I can't = customize=20 headers or create footlines. Looked at Piet van Oostrum's 'fancyhdr' but = it is a=20 *.dvi.  It's my understanding that pdflatex bypasses the dvi = step.  Do=20 you have any suggestions?
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C026D9.EA53E7E0-- 25-Sep-2000 20:53:20-GMT,2139;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11018 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:53:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27965 for pdftex-list; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:34:53 -0400 Received: from gandalf.fme.vutbr.cz (gandalf.fme.vutbr.cz [147.229.37.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27962 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:34:51 -0400 Received: from vertigo.fme.vutbr.cz (pferdus@vertigo.fme.vutbr.cz [147.229.35.197]) by gandalf.fme.vutbr.cz (8.9.3/8.9.3/FSI VUT Brno) with ESMTP id VAA09056 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:35:49 +0200 (METDST) Received: from localhost (pferdus@localhost) by vertigo.fme.vutbr.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8/VUT Brno) with SMTP id VAA10837 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:35:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:35:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Petr Ferdus To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Accented searchable chars (CE Encoding) in pdfTex created pdf files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi I've been trying to create pdf documents in czech, which would have properly encoded accented characters (ecaron, rcaron, uring to name few) to allow efficient searching. So far I was able to make them on the dvi-ps-pdf route using cstex/cslatex dvips and distiller. Visually the test documents look the same however pdf created by pdftex had some of accented characters "striped" (all of mentioned above) so "rcaron" became plain "r", "ecaron" "e" and "uring" "u", which became clear when copying selected text to clipboard. I use pdfTeX, Version 14f released 20000525 from TeXLive5d (pdfcslatex) and in both cases csr10 font. It might have been addressed in some postings, but I was not able to locate significant info. Could someone provide an insight into this issue? Thanks in advance. Peter pferdus@vertigo.fme.vutbr.cz 25-Sep-2000 21:16:14-GMT,1746;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11695 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:16:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27977 for pdftex-list; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:48:42 -0400 Received: from elm.fernuni-hagen.de (elm.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.114.24]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27974 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:48:41 -0400 Received: from bonsai.fernuni-hagen.de by elm.fernuni-hagen.de via local-channel with ESMTP; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:49:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:49:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jochen_K=FCpper?= Reply-To: Jochen@jochen-kuepper.de To: pdflatex info Subject: Re: Like to subscribe In-Reply-To: <000301c026fe$26e40400$a949ded1@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tug.org id PAA27975 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, helen bittar wrote: > run into a thorny problem: I can't customize headers or create > footlines. Looked at Piet van Oostrum's 'fancyhdr' but it is a > *.dvi. It's my understanding that pdflatex bypasses the dvi step. Do you > have any suggestions? Read the dvi. And by the way, please break your lines at 72 (or so) chars. Jochen -- http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit Libertè, Ègalitè, Fraternitè Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll 26-Sep-2000 16:04:24-GMT,1143;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04374 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29178 for pdftex-list; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:23:51 -0400 Received: from luiza.ct.ornl.gov (luiza.ct.ornl.gov [128.219.18.5]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29175 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:23:50 -0400 Received: from luiza.ct.ornl.gov (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by luiza.ct.ornl.gov (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03003 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009261426.KAA03003@luiza.ct.ornl.gov> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdf related question Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:26:18 -0400 From: Valmor de Almeida Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello list, I've seen the following question in this list before but I can't find any record of it: how can I merge two or more pdf files into one single document? Thanks a lot, -- Valmor de Almeida ORNL 26-Sep-2000 16:12:49-GMT,3109;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04628 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:12:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29199 for pdftex-list; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:41:19 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29196 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:41:15 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13dw1P-0002Di-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:47:51 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id QAA05579 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:42:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13dvvj-004wwRC; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:41:59 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:41:59 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdf related question Message-ID: <20000926164159.O31031@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <200009261426.KAA03003@luiza.ct.ornl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UBnjLfzoMQYIXCvq" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009261426.KAA03003@luiza.ct.ornl.gov>; from dalmeida@luiza.ct.ornl.gov on Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 10:26:18AM -0400 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --UBnjLfzoMQYIXCvq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-09-26 10:26:18 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote: > I've seen the following question in this list before but I can't > find any record of it:=20 > how can I merge two or more pdf files into one single document? Run this through pdflatex: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} \includegraphics{foo.pdf} \includegraphics{bar.pdf} \end{document} For more information consult the grfguide. Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --UBnjLfzoMQYIXCvq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOdC1t/hOymx+mbrBAQHIlAf/Z7L3SJ0D7TanxwfFLzJqG/cFz2nVPeX9 AzoB47WE7AjeM96i7XvWu8OLLE3dT8NYyj/KOS0fXAdiTwjw7UwhCuf6ydWwm8oP HIU1DOn7olT/UiWBvL46oecRAJmOSXbsivAvGE8RdyGWGy8wn1HuYjZ2WBzaVQsI g/AmlTs/GqJEoVzyxeH0Nj8gU4stIJOZZDCbkNuvW/AWPRIYXRZQFB1YVRR8TQrz /yGK+MRFwUrbr7K9eYhNmSSrX/7cdSm1dsV9tIlJ06etk3KWs/yu5c39Ct8Rau98 51aUMRIK0mhLC3dlje4hdNcyIQJ6iwzOb/J2wf1KodfkmTEHlOqZVw== =cKwl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UBnjLfzoMQYIXCvq-- 26-Sep-2000 22:39:53-GMT,2145;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15533 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:39:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29644 for pdftex-list; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:42:57 -0400 Received: from luiza.ct.ornl.gov (luiza.ct.ornl.gov [128.219.18.5]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29641 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:42:55 -0400 Received: from luiza.ct.ornl.gov (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by luiza.ct.ornl.gov (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA05824 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200009262045.QAA05824@luiza.ct.ornl.gov> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdf related question In-Reply-To: Message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= of "Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:41:59 +0200." <20000926164159.O31031@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:45:24 -0400 From: Valmor de Almeida Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Is this supposed to work with multiple page documents? I tried two include two pdf files with many pages each and only the first page of each document was included. Thanks, -- Valmor de Almeida ORNL > > --UBnjLfzoMQYIXCvq > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On 2000-09-26 10:26:18 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote: > > I've seen the following question in this list before but I can't > > find any record of it:=20 > > how can I merge two or more pdf files into one single document? > > Run this through pdflatex: > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > \begin{document} > \includegraphics{foo.pdf} > \includegraphics{bar.pdf} > \end{document} > > For more information consult the grfguide. > > Best regards > Martin > --=20 > Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE > ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen > Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 > 27-Sep-2000 2:29:45-GMT,1715;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20849 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:29:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA29981 for pdftex-list; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:06:00 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA29978 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:05:58 -0400 Received: from remote142-127.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.127] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13e5gY-0003ye-00; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 03:06:59 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20000927020832.3d072a00@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 02:08:32 +0200 To: Valmor de Almeida , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: pdf related question In-Reply-To: <200009262045.QAA05824@luiza.ct.ornl.gov> References: <20000926164159.O31031@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 16:45 26.09.2000 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote: > > > Is this supposed to work with multiple page > documents? I tried two include two pdf files > with many pages each and only the first page > of each document was included. \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \includegraphics[page=4]{...} CTAN:macros/pdftex/graphics/pdftex.def Yours sincerely Heiko 27-Sep-2000 9:43:55-GMT,2092;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA29037 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 03:43:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA30623 for pdftex-list; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 04:51:22 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (vmailer@sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA30620 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 04:51:20 -0400 From: piet@cs.uu.nl Received: from XLOO (xloo.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.152]) by mail.cs.uu.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F12451E for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:52:24 +0200 (MET DST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [FAQ] License? References: <20000904112754.E3603@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009041143.NAA00438@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <20000904135438.A16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <14771.45682.493677.111667@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20000904171736.F16288@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <14771.65510.574964.964868@box.home.de> In-Reply-To: Jochen Kuepper's message of "Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:02:46 +0200 (CEST)" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0806 (Gnus v5.8.6) Emacs/20.7 Date: 27 Sep 2000 10:54:16 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Jochen Kuepper (JK) writes: JK> Everybody is allowed to distribute GPLed software. You are. If you JK> sell a product that uses GPLerd software, and ship the GPLed software JK> with it without charging for that (plus the source or a pointer to it) JK> you are set. Whether you charge for it or not is irrelevant. You can charge for it what you want as long as you give away the source for distribution cost, or suuply a pointer where it can be downloaded free. JK> That means you have use the unmodified pdftex, or make any JK> modifications to the pdftex program GPL, no more. Correct. -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: P.van.Oostrum@hccnet.nl 27-Sep-2000 13:31:22-GMT,1739;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02943 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:31:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA30969 for pdftex-list; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:35:52 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30966 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:35:49 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15083; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:36:55 -0400 (EDT) To: Valmor de Almeida Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdf related question References: <200009261426.KAA03003@luiza.ct.ornl.gov> From: Ed L Cashin Date: 27 Sep 2000 08:36:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: Valmor de Almeida's message of "Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:26:18 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Valmor de Almeida writes: > Hello list, Hi, list member! > I've seen the following question in this list before but I can't > find any record of it: > how can I merge two or more pdf files into one single document? > > Thanks a lot, You can also use texexec to do it from the command line. You can even select individual pages if you want, I believe. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 27-Sep-2000 14:28:06-GMT,3484;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04151 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:28:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA31137 for pdftex-list; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:43:15 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA31134 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:43:13 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13eHao-0003VK-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:49:50 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA21942 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:43:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13eHTH-004wwSC; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:42:03 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:42:03 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: pdfwebmac.tex for 0.14f Message-ID: <20000927154203.Y31031@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="m+utxuhC6KVTvgNz" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --m+utxuhC6KVTvgNz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, where can I get a pdfwebmac.tex for pdftex 0.14f? The pdfwebmac.tex coming with teTeX-beta-20000807 produces this error: > /usr/local/bin/pdftex pdftex.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2C 7.3.1) (pdftex.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerma= n, n ohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/plain/misc/webmac.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/plain/misc/pdfwebmac.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/plain/misc/pdfcolor.tex))) *1 ! Undefined control sequence. \n #1->\pdfannotlink=20 attr{/Border [0 0 0]} goto num #1 \BlueGreen #1\Black = \... \X ...langle \,$#2{\eightrm \kern .5em\pdfnote #1. }$\,\rangle $\XX=20 l.240 \Y\P\hbox{\4}\X9:Compiler directives\X \6 Thanks in advance Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --m+utxuhC6KVTvgNz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOdH5K/hOymx+mbrBAQEXxQgAihP/iehy55dMCxXscByDzjv512atUQo/ 2Vzaw/78Ufgx5nc7CLoHpzLGKgPxxV1vQIO/RFzEFHI3WcFbbSKDvZ3fAyrg0V4n ArztRE262d4ymy6ZGnM2TrzQ7MTC2tM/w1QLsFVE2YCS2uUm1dSdPmRl8Sn3Gase 9FoE4KNsEwB8Z+lhEFTXP4ou6sqHc50u/xKVxruNB6x+1L0iwSsRRz34IZM9n7yn SlDq1mt/VHpnAnYnEr/JFwrvjvQPpFzcYqM4/UL3XtgiHD5VzKHTU1NKkztYKXaw JajlXbAeYvjF4v+0mVpRDqZt0c32YxNPRJsjsRDNT6rlrXcyzKQoYQ== =qpMY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --m+utxuhC6KVTvgNz-- 28-Sep-2000 11:36:44-GMT,2115;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04375 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 05:36:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA32765 for pdftex-list; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:52:52 -0400 Received: from smtp2.flashnet.it (smtp2.flashnet.it [194.247.160.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA32762 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:52:50 -0400 Received: from oemcomputer (ip139.pool-250.cyb.it [195.191.1.139]) by smtp2.flashnet.it (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e8SArxw11796 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:53:59 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000928130255.00869de0@mbox2.flashnet.it> X-Sender: fn035144@mbox2.flashnet.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:02:55 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: chiari mario Subject: Please, newbie's questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, this is my first post to this list and I prety new to pdflatex. This my (newbie) problem. I am trying to pdflatex a file whose lines include: \documentclass[11pt,twocolumn]{article} \usepackage[active]{srcltx} % SRC Specials: DVI [Inverse] Search \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \usepackage[debugshow]{color} ............. \usepackage{hyperref} \begin{document} ...... \begin{figure}[t] \centering \includegraphics[width=0.39\textwidth]{my_image_file} \end{figure} ......... my_image_file is an .eps file. I have converted to an .pdf file by GSview (pdfwrite driver). The problem is: dvips output a .ps file where the image is at the right place, pdflatex outputs a .pdf file where the image is displayed very small and/ot in the wrong place. Why? I am aware that i should know something on pdf. I am sorry I know almost nothing. Any help is very welcome. thanks regards mario ps also, if you suggest to use epstopdf, please let me know how to install it, I am on Win98+MikTex+WinEdt 28-Sep-2000 14:18:39-GMT,2284;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07533 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:18:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00495 for pdftex-list; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:29:27 -0400 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00492 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:29:25 -0400 Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.28.154]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id PAA18443; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:30:32 +0200 (MES) Received: from peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (localhost.cs.Uni-Dortmund.DE [127.0.0.1]) by peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de (8.9.3+3.2W/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA07814; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:30:31 +0200 Message-Id: <200009281330.PAA07814@peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de> X-Authentication-Warning: peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de: Host localhost.cs.Uni-Dortmund.DE [127.0.0.1] claimed to be peano.cs.uni-dortmund.de X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 (debian) To: chiari mario , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Please, newbie's questions In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:02:55 +0200." <3.0.5.32.20000928130255.00869de0@mbox2.flashnet.it> References: <3.0.5.32.20000928130255.00869de0@mbox2.flashnet.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:30:31 +0200 From: Karsten Tinnefeld Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > ps also, if you suggest to use epstopdf, please let me know how to install > it, I am on Win98+MikTex+WinEdt Download and install perl as from http://www.activestate.com or compile the c version as available on CTAN (there may be even a precompiled version). Anyhow, there is no reason to not wanting to have perl on any system :) Ciao, Karsten -- Karsten Tinnefeld tinnefeld@ls2.cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, Lehrstuhl 2 T +49 231 755-4737 Universität Dortmund, D-44221 Dortmund, Deutschland F +49 231 755-2047 28-Sep-2000 20:07:32-GMT,2265;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17694 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:07:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00977 for pdftex-list; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:29:39 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00974 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:29:37 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA29157; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:30:45 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:30:45 +0200 Message-Id: <200009281930.VAA29157@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Valmor de Almeida Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdf related question In-Reply-To: <200009262045.QAA05824@luiza.ct.ornl.gov> References: <20000926164159.O31031@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200009262045.QAA05824@luiza.ct.ornl.gov> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Valmor" == Valmor de Almeida writes: > Is this supposed to work with multiple page documents? I tried > two include two pdf files with many pages each and only the > first page of each document was included. Hi, I just found an old mail from Hans Hagen. It's quite simple: texexec --pdfarrange --result=doc3.pdf doc1.pdf doc2.pdf Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Oct-2000 14:28:27-GMT,2238;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07984 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 08:28:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04771 for pdftex-list; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 09:48:43 -0400 Received: from smtp2.flashnet.it (smtp2.flashnet.it [194.247.160.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04768 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 09:48:36 -0400 Received: from oemcomputer (ip119.pool-250.cyb.it [195.191.1.119]) by smtp2.flashnet.it (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e91Dnew12630; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:49:40 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20001001155557.007d13b0@mbox2.flashnet.it> X-Sender: fn035144@mbox2.flashnet.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 15:55:57 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org, Karsten Tinnefeld , Daniel Weiss , "Massimo Pinto" , Robert Howlett , Reinhard Kotucha , Valmor de Almeida , Himanshu Gohel , juergen.bausa.jb@bayer-ag.de From: chiari mario Subject: It works. Thanks so much! [was: Please, newbie's questions] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id JAA04769 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, pdflatex and epstopdf seems to work very well now. Thanks to all of you for your kind and very helpful replies. A very special thanks to Daniel, who helped a lot. It seems that the issue was a simple one. Some of my .eps file got some 'dirty' (see ps below). I don't why. They were created by either Adobe Illustrator 7.0 or Corel Draw 7.0. I had to clean up the files by hand. I'll be in touch Take care mario ps ÅÐÓÆ-------Ä¡ÿÿ%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 ....... ....... %%EOF II*-------------very very long Here --------- is for characters i can't even cut&paste on this mail. 1-Oct-2000 16:13:06-GMT,2212;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09678 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 10:13:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04842 for pdftex-list; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 11:40:52 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04839 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 11:40:50 -0400 Received: from max125.public.ox.ac.uk (max125.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.125]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA22425; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 16:41:47 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 16:39:54 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: chiari mario cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: It works. Thanks so much! [was: Please, newbie's questions] In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20001001155557.007d13b0@mbox2.flashnet.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, chiari mario wrote: > Dear all, > > pdflatex and epstopdf seems to work very well now. > > Thanks to all of you for your kind and very helpful replies. A very special > thanks to Daniel, who helped a lot. > > It seems that the issue was a simple one. Some of my .eps file got some > 'dirty' (see ps below). I don't why. They were created by either Adobe > Illustrator 7.0 or Corel Draw 7.0. I had to clean up the files by hand. Did you print them to an HP postscript printer driver? That does not generate pure postscript, but adds commands in PCL to switch the printer to postscript and back again. It even does it when asked for EPS output! We've seen this on various HP dirvers on NT at least. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 1-Oct-2000 19:21:34-GMT,2286;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12827 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:21:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04951 for pdftex-list; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 14:35:39 -0400 Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04948 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 14:35:37 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (pool0682.cvx23-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.206.172]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29646 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 11:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39D7852E.65BDDD41@csee.usf.edu> Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 11:40:46 -0700 From: "Himanshu J. Gohel" Reply-To: gohel@csee.usf.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Re: It works. Thanks so much! [was: Please, newbie's questions] References: <3.0.5.32.20001001155557.007d13b0@mbox2.flashnet.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk chiari mario wrote: > It seems that the issue was a simple one. Some of my .eps file > got some 'dirty' (see ps below). I don't why. They were created > by either Adobe Illustrator 7.0 or Corel Draw 7.0. I had to clean > up the files by hand. > ps > ÅÐÓÆ-------Ä¡ÿÿ%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 Yes, I've seen this as well. Mostly in files that were generated for Macs, or programs that work on Macs such as Adobe's. It think it may have something to do with Mac's resource and data fork, not really sure, but the solution as you discovered is to edit it with any text editor and make sure the file starts with !PS. If there's a choice in Adobe Illustrator of sending output to an EPSI or EPSF, try both, I think the the EPSI is the EPS Interchange, which may not have the gobbledy-gook before !PS. And you may notice as a bonus that the file won't contain the preview image, which make make it smaller in size. Ciao! -- Himanshu Gohel, mailto:gohel@csee.usf.edu 1-Oct-2000 21:20:05-GMT,2246;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14810 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:20:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05031 for pdftex-list; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 16:28:56 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05028 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 16:28:54 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22140 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 16:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 16:30:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: pdftex list Subject: EPS and previews [was: It works. Thanks so much!] In-Reply-To: <39D7852E.65BDDD41@csee.usf.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk That "crud" at the BOF is documented in Adobe's tech note on EPS files. It is for an embedded preview. Usually a TIFF preview, and WMF previews are also documented... And TIFF previews are usually for Windows EPS files, not Macintosh files. Macintosh previews are PICT graphics that are embedded in the resource fork. EPSI files have ASCII preview data in the same fork (if on a Macintosh) as the PS code and are implemented with DSC comments. > > > ÅÐÓÆ-------Ä¡ÿÿ%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 > > Yes, I've seen this as well. Mostly in files that were generated > for Macs, or programs that work on Macs such as Adobe's. It think > it may have something to do with Mac's resource and data fork, > not really sure, but the solution as you discovered is to edit > it with any text editor and make sure the file starts with !PS. > > If there's a choice in Adobe Illustrator of sending output to > an EPSI or EPSF, try both, I think the the EPSI is the EPS > Interchange, which may not have the gobbledy-gook before !PS. > And you may notice as a bonus that the file won't contain > the preview image, which make make it smaller in size. > > Ciao! > > 1-Oct-2000 23:39:03-GMT,2295;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17114 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 17:39:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05152 for pdftex-list; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:52:47 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05149 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:52:46 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.147.180]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id G1RWY801.O7R; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 00:54:08 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001002005225.014c3100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 00:52:25 +0200 To: Tom Kacvinsky From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: EPS and previews [was: It works. Thanks so much!] Cc: pdftex list In-Reply-To: References: <39D7852E.65BDDD41@csee.usf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 04:30 PM 10/1/00 -0400, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: >That "crud" at the BOF is documented in Adobe's tech note on EPS >files. It is for an embedded preview. Usually a TIFF preview, and >WMF previews are also documented... > >And TIFF previews are usually for Windows EPS files, not Macintosh >files. Macintosh previews are PICT graphics that are embedded in the >resource fork. > >EPSI files have ASCII preview data in the same fork (if on a >Macintosh) as the PS code and are implemented with DSC comments. But beware, the "crud" seems to have some hard coded pointers to after end of file stuff, so one can best remove both the start crap and end crap. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Oct-2000 2:49:17-GMT,1828;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20375 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:49:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05254 for pdftex-list; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 22:02:39 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA05250 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 22:02:37 -0400 Received: from remote142-22.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.22] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13fuxR-0006dZ-00; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 04:03:58 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001001223625.29c793da@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 22:36:25 +0200 To: gohel@csee.usf.edu, pdftex From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: It works. Thanks so much! [was: Please, newbie's questions] In-Reply-To: <39D7852E.65BDDD41@csee.usf.edu> References: <3.0.5.32.20001001155557.007d13b0@mbox2.flashnet.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id WAA05252 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:40 01.10.2000 -0700, Himanshu J. Gohel wrote: >chiari mario wrote: > >> ÅÐÓÆ-------Ä¡ÿÿ%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 > >[...] but the solution as you discovered is to edit >it with any text editor and make sure the file starts with !PS. I am surprised, the perl script (1999/05/06 v2.5) already cancels this rubbish: if (/%!/) { # throw away binary junk before %! s/(.*)%!/%!/o; } Yours sincerely Heiko 2-Oct-2000 7:27:53-GMT,2139;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA25348 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 01:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA05713 for pdftex-list; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 02:41:45 -0400 Received: from dep.oprit.rug.nl (dep.oprit.rug.nl [129.125.36.9]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05710 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 02:41:43 -0400 From: siepo@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl Received: from client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl (client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl [129.125.44.3]) by dep.oprit.rug.nl (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06724; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:43:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200010020643.IAA06724@dep.oprit.rug.nl> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:42:46 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: siepo@cybercomm.nl Subject: Re: EPS and previews [was: It works. Thanks so much!] To: pdftex@tug.org cc: tjk@ams.org, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001002005225.014c3100@pop.wxs.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2 Oct, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 04:30 PM 10/1/00 -0400, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: >>That "crud" at the BOF is documented in Adobe's tech note on EPS >>files. It is for an embedded preview. Usually a TIFF preview, and >>WMF previews are also documented... >> >>And TIFF previews are usually for Windows EPS files, not Macintosh >>files. Macintosh previews are PICT graphics that are embedded in the >>resource fork. >> >>EPSI files have ASCII preview data in the same fork (if on a >>Macintosh) as the PS code and are implemented with DSC comments. > > But beware, the "crud" seems to have some hard coded pointers to after end > of file stuff, so one can best remove both the start crap and end crap. > > Hans I have the following Perl script for removing such previews: #!/usr/bin/perl undef $/; $ALL = <>; if (substr ($ALL, 0, 2) eq "%!") { print $ALL; } else { @toc = unpack "LL", substr ($ALL, 4, 8); # offset, l. of PS part print substr ($ALL, $toc[0], $toc[1]); } -- 3-Oct-2000 8:40:42-GMT,1812;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA28598 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 02:40:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07399 for pdftex-list; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 04:01:53 -0400 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07396 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 04:01:51 -0400 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e9383IM03967 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:03:18 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:03:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <200010030803.e9383IM03967@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: (fwd) pdflatex 0.14g Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Just forwarding... Thomas -- From: Helmut Heller To: tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: pdflatex 0.14g Hello, on NEXTSTEP version 3.3 on Intel-hardware the following problems occur: 1) in libs/libtiff/tif_dir.h you have to #include or u_long (and friends) will not be defined. 2) HAVE_GETCWD should NOT be defined for NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP --- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ) High Performance Computing Group Barer Str. 21, Room S2515, 80333 Munich, GERMANY 4-Oct-2000 8:19:20-GMT,2619;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00934 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 02:19:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA09149 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 03:35:02 -0400 Received: from smtp01ffm.de.uu.net (smtp01ffm.de.uu.net [192.76.144.150]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09146 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 03:35:00 -0400 Received: from 192.109.126.97 (NS-1.mitgmbh.de [192.109.126.62]) by smtp01ffm.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with SMTP id JAA09617 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:36:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mitgmbh.de [192.109.126.82] by NS-1.MITGMBH.DE with David PostMan; 04 Oct 00 07:36:24 UT Message-ID: <39DADDF9.6572E809@mitgmbh.de> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 09:36:25 +0200 From: Andreas Scherer Organization: MIT GmbH, Aachen, Germany X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfwebmac.tex for pdftex 0.14f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk [Sorry for posting this without being subscribed to the list.] Martin, as far as I can see from different sources, all you have to do is put the following line at the top of pdfwebmac.tex: \ifx\pdfannotlink\undefined\let\pdfannotlink\pdfstartlink\fi A similiar issue is raised by the twin macros cwebmac.tex as shipped with CWEB 3.61 and 3.62. I have submitted a small fix to Don Knuth for inclusion with an updated version of CWEB. The maintainer(s) of pdfwebmac.tex might consider a more appropriate solution. IMHO it was an unfortunate decision to rename the \pdfannotlink primitive to \pdfstartlink without providing a fallback. I am aware of pdfTeX still being "beta", however, there _are_ macro packages in common use that rely on the former primitive. With the more widespread availability of pdfTeX 0.14 this will certainly lead to some complaints. Note that popular TeX installations, such as that coming with SuSE Linux 7.0, are still shipped with pdfTeX 0.13d, and users (such as the present author) may be very reluctant to fiddle with updating parts of a "running system" manually (apart from the well-known problems related to such attempts). I for one am not in a position to confirm the proper workings of the above fix in a general setting, because I am still stuck (but happy) with pdfTeX 0.13d on Linux and with pdfTeX 0.13c on Win32. Regards -- Andreas 4-Oct-2000 9:27:10-GMT,2100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA02102 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 03:27:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09282 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 04:44:47 -0400 Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA09279 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 04:44:45 -0400 Received: from gershwin.maps.susx.ac.uk (sussex.ac.uk) [139.184.128.33] (james) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 13gkBg-0003jr-00; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:46:05 +0100 Message-ID: <39DAFC39.31D09B0E@sussex.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 10:45:29 +0100 Organization: University of Sussex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex CC: UKTUGEnqs Subject: [Fwd: Pdflatex] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: J.Foster@sussex.ac.uk (James Foster) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "Andrea Best (DSLWN)" wrote: > > Hi, > > I hope you can help me. > I am fairly new to LaTeX. > > I am creating pdf files using pdflatex. I am using the font helvetica, > however, this font is not being embedded and is proving problematic when the > pdf files are sent to the printers. > > Is there any way to embed a font within the pdf file using pdflatex? > > Andrea Best > Datacom Systems Limited > Ext: 8572 > DDI: 64 4 382 2772 > Email: andreab@datacom.co.nz Can anyone help with this? It came to UKTUG enquiries, but I thought it worth passing on to the experts. I'll suggest to her that she considers joining the pdftex list. James Foster -- Dr James Foster mailto:j.foster@sussex.ac.uk School of Mathematical Sciences http://www.maths.sussex.ac.uk/Staff/JF/ University of Sussex Tel: +44 (0)1273 678781 Falmer, BRIGHTON BN1 9QH, UK Fax: +44 (0)1273 678097 4-Oct-2000 9:44:00-GMT,3192;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA02363 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 03:43:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA09347 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 05:10:46 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09344 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 05:10:44 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13gkgO-0006CR-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:17:48 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA22746 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:12:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13gkaZ-004wwRC; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:11:47 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:11:47 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex Subject: Re: [Fwd: Pdflatex] Message-ID: <20001004111147.H5079@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex References: <39DAFC39.31D09B0E@sussex.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39DAFC39.31D09B0E@sussex.ac.uk>; from J.Foster@sussex.ac.uk on Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 10:45:29AM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-10-04 10:45:29 +0100, James Foster wrote: > > I am creating pdf files using pdflatex. I am using the font helvetica, > > however, this font is not being embedded and is proving problematic whe= n the > > pdf files are sent to the printers. The standard-fonts are normally not embedded as any Postscript/PDF-printer _should_ have them. Helvetica is a standard-font. :-) > > Is there any way to embed a font within the pdf file using pdflatex? Yes. Using the map-files. Don't know what's the standard entry for Helvetica. Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOdr0UvhOymx+mbrBAQH1NAgApvZhu0LiDu5bcYequtN4vrgpxFON3xjh 4rQap2GqSTmkm8w9ldhxgzyOAu0UngQmUEz6InVnQAIutrAwjAMLBht0/NM7MhAa ajBfM3NKAzH583x/T63k8/QqytNGRB8YlFdpU1E1S+CH5Jq9bRHGhlHSDwy9olZ/ xP1ocVHl1uamgwtvwRbdvZDEgTGoHjxh1rVJelg20/2XxwMT3wJgdX1ekTw0vX+e yU1wWgMWi6jnhPYAWLZspB+LeYkifN+OIzxLvcSQLm5GxPp64u7YlnnlEUbthrQI iQyq7S9u3SElj8qJ9ytO0kzBWt63StnyqYFZalsxdlctv82OyYIz6g== =eF45 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- 4-Oct-2000 11:44:44-GMT,2047;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04299 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 05:44:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09513 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:10:55 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09510 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:10:52 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13gmTG-0003tS-00; Wed, 04 Oct 2000 12:12:22 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13gmTF-0007Z9-00; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:12:21 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14811.4288.744126.197571@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:13:04 +0100 To: andreab@datacom.co.nz cc: J.Foster@sussex.ac.uk, pdftex@tug.org, uktug-enquiries@tex.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Fwd: Pdflatex] In-Reply-To: <39DAFC39.31D09B0E@sussex.ac.uk> References: <39DAFC39.31D09B0E@sussex.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I am creating pdf files using pdflatex. I am using the font helvetica, > however, this font is not being embedded and is proving problematic when the > pdf files are sent to the printers. > > is there any way to embed a font within the pdf file using pdflatex? Software which supports PDF file is _mandated_ to have Helvetica available, so I think something else must be going wrong. I suggest you make one of your PDF file available on the web for people to look at, and ask on the pdftex list for someone to look at. You *can* embed a Helvetica, under another name, but it really should not be needed. Sebastian 4-Oct-2000 12:09:59-GMT,4339;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04703 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09523 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:23:26 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09520 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:23:25 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.188]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id G1WL1004.L6W; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:24:36 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001004130727.0133dd90@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:07:27 +0200 To: Andreas Scherer From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: pdfwebmac.tex for pdftex 0.14f Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <39DADDF9.6572E809@mitgmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Andreas, >IMHO it was an unfortunate decision to rename the \pdfannotlink >primitive to \pdfstartlink without providing a fallback. I am aware of >pdfTeX still being "beta", however, there _are_ macro packages in common >use that rely on the former primitive. With the more widespread >availability of pdfTeX 0.14 this will certainly lead to some complaints. The renaming and redesign of primitives was a rather careful process and it's main objective was consistency in naming, consistency with pdf concepts, and flexibility. That's beta -) The system of pdf primitives has greatly benefit from that. >Note that popular TeX installations, such as that coming with SuSE Linux >7.0, are still shipped with pdfTeX 0.13d, and users (such as the present >author) may be very reluctant to fiddle with updating parts of a >"running system" manually (apart from the well-known problems related to >such attempts). I for one am not in a position to confirm the proper >workings of the above fix in a general setting, because I am still stuck >(but happy) with pdfTeX 0.13d on Linux and with pdfTeX 0.13c on Win32. Before Thanh updated pdftex, suggestions to maintain upward compatibility were discussed. Note that supp-pdf.tex (which is loaded in latex too) provides downward compatibility for the image inclusion macros. Since all pdftex specific primitives are normally embedded in some kind of driver module, I suppose that updating to more recent versions normally works. In this particular case, the updates of context and latex/hyperref were even ahead of new primitives, since this problem was foreseen. Since pdftex is still beta, one may expect more changes, especially when Thanh will split the pdf backend and the par break extensions [he proposed this at tug 2000] which will quite certainly mean that font related primitives will change, as they already did. But, since those are normally hidden for the user no real problems are expected. I think that hard coding compatibility in the binaries is dangerous, since one can overload primitives. Even in macro packages there can be dangers: \let\pdfstartlink\pdfannotlink \let\normalpdfannotlink\pdfannotlink \def\pdfannotlink{\message{yet another link}\normalpdfannotlink} will lead to \pdfstartlink not issueing a message, therefore \def\pdfstartlink{\pdfannotlink} is a better solution. Of course, for plain tex based solutions, where no special/pdftex wrappers are available, one always has to keep an eye on new things. Anyhow, i don't expect many changes to pdf specific primitives, if only because pdf does not change that much, and because pdftex already provides low level access. The font arena is a different one, although I think that especially character protruding is quite stable now. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Oct-2000 12:25:41-GMT,4339;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04960 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:25:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09539 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:26:56 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09536 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:26:54 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.188]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id G1WL7F01.872; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:28:27 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001004130727.0133ed90@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:07:27 +0200 To: Andreas Scherer From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: pdfwebmac.tex for pdftex 0.14f Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <39DADDF9.6572E809@mitgmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Andreas, >IMHO it was an unfortunate decision to rename the \pdfannotlink >primitive to \pdfstartlink without providing a fallback. I am aware of >pdfTeX still being "beta", however, there _are_ macro packages in common >use that rely on the former primitive. With the more widespread >availability of pdfTeX 0.14 this will certainly lead to some complaints. The renaming and redesign of primitives was a rather careful process and it's main objective was consistency in naming, consistency with pdf concepts, and flexibility. That's beta -) The system of pdf primitives has greatly benefit from that. >Note that popular TeX installations, such as that coming with SuSE Linux >7.0, are still shipped with pdfTeX 0.13d, and users (such as the present >author) may be very reluctant to fiddle with updating parts of a >"running system" manually (apart from the well-known problems related to >such attempts). I for one am not in a position to confirm the proper >workings of the above fix in a general setting, because I am still stuck >(but happy) with pdfTeX 0.13d on Linux and with pdfTeX 0.13c on Win32. Before Thanh updated pdftex, suggestions to maintain upward compatibility were discussed. Note that supp-pdf.tex (which is loaded in latex too) provides downward compatibility for the image inclusion macros. Since all pdftex specific primitives are normally embedded in some kind of driver module, I suppose that updating to more recent versions normally works. In this particular case, the updates of context and latex/hyperref were even ahead of new primitives, since this problem was foreseen. Since pdftex is still beta, one may expect more changes, especially when Thanh will split the pdf backend and the par break extensions [he proposed this at tug 2000] which will quite certainly mean that font related primitives will change, as they already did. But, since those are normally hidden for the user no real problems are expected. I think that hard coding compatibility in the binaries is dangerous, since one can overload primitives. Even in macro packages there can be dangers: \let\pdfstartlink\pdfannotlink \let\normalpdfannotlink\pdfannotlink \def\pdfannotlink{\message{yet another link}\normalpdfannotlink} will lead to \pdfstartlink not issueing a message, therefore \def\pdfstartlink{\pdfannotlink} is a better solution. Of course, for plain tex based solutions, where no special/pdftex wrappers are available, one always has to keep an eye on new things. Anyhow, i don't expect many changes to pdf specific primitives, if only because pdf does not change that much, and because pdftex already provides low level access. The font arena is a different one, although I think that especially character protruding is quite stable now. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Oct-2000 12:36:44-GMT,1948;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05144 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:36:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09559 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:50:45 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09556 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:50:27 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id NAA16292; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:51:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id NAA13731; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:51:49 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:51:49 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200010041151.NAA13731@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= Cc: pdftex Subject: Re: [Fwd: Pdflatex] In-Reply-To: <20001004111147.H5079@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <39DAFC39.31D09B0E@sussex.ac.uk> <20001004111147.H5079@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » Yes. Using the map-files. Don't know what's the standard entry » for Helvetica. No, this was already discussed here! If pdftex finds a line beginning with Helvetica, it won't download it, because it knows Helvetica is resident. A trick published here was to use another name, such as uhvr8r Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05343 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:48:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09571 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:03:56 -0400 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09568 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:03:54 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.147]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G1WMW900.0EB; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:04:57 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001004134350.015ad140@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:43:50 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [Fwd: Pdflatex] Cc: pdftex In-Reply-To: <20001004111147.H5079@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <39DAFC39.31D09B0E@sussex.ac.uk> <39DAFC39.31D09B0E@sussex.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id IAA09569 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:11 AM 10/4/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-10-04 10:45:29 +0100, James Foster wrote: >> > I am creating pdf files using pdflatex. I am using the font helvetica, >> > however, this font is not being embedded and is proving problematic when the >> > pdf files are sent to the printers. > >The standard-fonts are normally not embedded as any >Postscript/PDF-printer _should_ have them. Helvetica is a >standard-font. :-) I tend to embed them anyway; for instance: can you trust the metrics to be the same? It can be very interesting to open a pdf doc, and view the document font list in linux, win and mac. Actually, the default 15 fonts no longer come that way with acrobat. I recently had to copy distiller 3 stuff over version 4 in order to process pretty legal eps files that used helvetica, while distiller only knows arial. The interesting thing was that the fonts were not embedded, so even for non embedding, distiller needs real helvetica instead of its arial clone that comes with the windows version, in order to be able not to embed it. I suppose some higher order logic is involved for which I am too stupid. I wonder how you rips handle that issue, synonym tables or so? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Oct-2000 13:11:17-GMT,2724;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05804 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:11:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09601 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:38:06 -0400 Received: from inet-smtp4.us.oracle.com (inet-smtp4.oracle.com [209.246.15.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09598 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:38:05 -0400 Received: from gmgw01.us.oracle.com (gmgw01.us.oracle.com [130.35.61.190]) by inet-smtp4.us.oracle.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24727 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 05:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Oracle.com (rasppp14.de.oracle.com [140.84.7.83]) by gmgw01.us.oracle.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06902 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 05:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39DB2509.2977A21D@Oracle.com> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 14:39:37 +0200 From: Astrid Heinicke Organization: Oracle Deutschland GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tex Subject: pdf and Miktex Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8457C37FC41153930FB99631" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8457C37FC41153930FB99631 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am a new pdftex user. I am attempting to use pdftex within Miktex. Somehow it doesnt work properly. Since creation of dvi-files and ps-files do work fine, I wonder why pdftex doesnt seem work. Could anyone give me a hand? Would very much apreciate some step-by-step guidance Thanks in advance Astrid --------------8457C37FC41153930FB99631 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="Astrid.Heinicke.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Astrid Heinicke Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Astrid.Heinicke.vcf" begin:vcard n:Heinicke;Astrid tel;cell:0177 / 5941 - 792 tel;fax:+49 89 / 75981 - 107 tel;work:+49 89 / 1430 - 2792 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org: adr:;;Riesstraße 25 / Block A1;Munich;;80992;Germany version:2.1 email;internet:aheinick@de.oracle.com title:Consultant - Business Intelligence & Warehouse - Munich/Germany fn:

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Dr. Astrid Heinicke end:vcard --------------8457C37FC41153930FB99631-- 4-Oct-2000 15:37:48-GMT,1787;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09220 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:37:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09867 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:55:31 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09864 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:55:29 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13gpyh-0001wJ-00; Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:57:03 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13gpyh-0006NR-00; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:57:03 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14811.17769.933110.245930@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:57:45 +0100 To: Astrid.Heinicke@Oracle.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdf and Miktex In-Reply-To: <39DB2509.2977A21D@Oracle.com> References: <39DB2509.2977A21D@Oracle.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Astrid Heinicke writes: > I am a new pdftex user. I am attempting to use pdftex within Miktex. > Somehow it doesnt work properly. Since creation of dvi-files and > ps-files do work fine, I wonder why pdftex doesnt seem work. Could > anyone give me a hand? Would very much apreciate some step-by-step > guidance hard to know what to say unless you give more details of "doesnt work properly" .... Sebastian 4-Oct-2000 16:08:42-GMT,11879;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10144 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:08:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09927 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:16:58 -0400 Received: from sunshine.math.utah.edu (csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09924 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:16:56 -0400 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08716; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:18:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22332; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:18:15 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:18:15 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, rodgers@math.utah.edu, debar@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk According to the first edition of the PDF Reference Manual (ISBN 0-201-62628-4, p. 64), all PDF viewers should recognize these 14 base fonts Courier Courier-Bold Courier-BoldOblique Courier-Oblique Helvetica Helvetica-Bold Helvetica-BoldOblique Helvetica-Oblique Symbol Times-Bold Times-BoldItalic Times-Italic Times-Roman ZapfDingbats so that PDF files need not embed them. This substantially reduces the size of short PDF documents, if all they need are a typewriter font, a serif font, a sans serif font, a symbol font, and a dingbat font, in various weights and sizes. According to recent correspondence with ghostscript developers, the situation has gotten worse, because Microsoft wanted their own versions of those fonts, rather than Adobe's, to be the default (Arial \approx Helvetica, et al) on Windows platforms, and regrettably, Acrobat Distiller on some platforms is using Microsoft substitutes, even though they have somewhat different font metrics, which could completely ruin accurate horizontal text alignment. This is indeed a sad state of affairs, and the only recommended workaround is to request your PostScript-to-PDF conversion utility (usually Adobe Distiller, or ghostscript pdf2ps) to embed all fonts, including the base 14 listed above. Unfortunately, Distiller 3.02 (the most recent available on UNIX platforms, as far as I know) refuses to embed the base 14, even when requested to do so. I don't know whether Distiller 4 has any options to force embedding of the base 14. Compare the distillation of these two files, b.ps and h.ps: % cat b.ps %! PS-Adobe /Bookman-Demi findfont 24 scalefont setfont 100 100 moveto (This is Bookman-Demi at 24pt) show showpage % cat h.ps %! PS-Adobe /Helvetica-BoldOblique findfont 24 scalefont setfont 100 100 moveto (This is Helvetica-BoldOblique at 24pt) show showpage % distill -alwaysembed Helvetica-BoldOblique < h.ps > h.pdf % distill -alwaysembed Helvetica-BoldOblique < b.ps > b.pdf % ls -l b.pdf h.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 beebe staff 9066 Oct 4 08:09 b.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 beebe staff 1264 Oct 4 08:08 h.pdf >From the file sizes, there is a font embedded in b.pdf, but not in h.pdf. Run acroread 3.02 on each, and follow menu path File -> DocumentInfo -> Fonts to find in each case: Original Font Type Encoding Used Font Type -------------------------------------------------------------- Helvetica-Bold Type 1 Standard Arial-BoldMT Type 1 Bookman-Demi Type 1 Standard Embedded Subset Type 1 Notice that a Microsoft font entered the picture, and it is NOT a one-for-one replacement for the original Helvetica-Bold font, as this comparison of their .afm files shows: % awk -f compare-glyphs.awk Arial-Bold.afm Helvetica-Bold.afm Glyphs in Arial-Bold.afm missing from Helvetica-Bold.afm increment mu1 pi1 .null infinity nonmarkingreturn plusinus approxequal integral notequal product greaterequal lessequal Ohm radical guilsingleft lozenge overscore summation guilsingright middot partialdiff Glyphs in Helvetica-Bold.afm missing from Arial-Bold.afm Lslash minus Zcaron guilsinglleft lslash mu zcaron guilsinglright macron plusminus Glyph width mismatches between Arial-Bold.afm and Helvetica-Bold.afm divide 549 584 -35 Here is a similar report for the Microsoft and Adobe Times-Roman fonts, for which the differences are much more severe: % ttfps -a TimesNewRoman.afm TimesNewRoman.ttf TimesNewRoman.pfa % awk -f bin/compare-glyphs.awk TimesNewRoman.afm Times-Roman.afm Glyphs in TimesNewRoman.afm missing from Times-Roman.afm guilsingright middot partialdiff .notdef increment mu1 pi1 .null infinity nonmarkingreturn plusinus approxequal integral notequal product greaterequal lessequal Ohm radical guilsingleft lozenge overscore summation Glyphs in Times-Roman.afm missing from TimesNewRoman.afm Lslash minus Zcaron guilsinglleft lslash mu zcaron guilsinglright macron plusminus Glyph width mismatches between TimesNewRoman.afm and Times-Roman.afm a 443 444 -1 aacute 443 444 -1 acircumflex 443 444 -1 adieresis 443 444 -1 ae 666 667 -1 agrave 443 444 -1 ampersand 777 778 -1 aring 443 444 -1 at 920 921 -1 atilde 443 444 -1 B 666 667 -1 backslash 277 278 -1 braceleft 479 480 -1 braceright 479 480 -1 c 443 444 -1 C 666 667 -1 ccedilla 443 444 -1 Ccedilla 666 667 -1 colon 277 278 -1 copyright 759 760 -1 degree 399 400 -1 divide 548 564 -16 dotlessi 277 278 -1 e 443 444 -1 E 610 611 -1 eacute 443 444 -1 Eacute 610 611 -1 ecircumflex 443 444 -1 Ecircumflex 610 611 -1 edieresis 443 444 -1 Edieresis 610 611 -1 egrave 443 444 -1 Egrave 610 611 -1 equal 563 564 -1 fraction 166 167 -1 greater 563 564 -1 i 277 278 -1 iacute 277 278 -1 icircumflex 277 278 -1 idieresis 277 278 -1 igrave 277 278 -1 j 277 278 -1 l 277 278 -1 L 610 611 -1 less 563 564 -1 logicalnot 563 564 -1 m 777 778 -1 multiply 563 564 -1 onesuperior 299 300 -1 ordfeminine 275 276 -1 plus 563 564 -1 question 443 444 -1 questiondown 443 444 -1 quotedblbase 443 444 -1 quotedblleft 443 444 -1 quotedblright 443 444 -1 R 666 667 -1 registered 759 760 -1 semicolon 277 278 -1 slash 277 278 -1 t 277 278 -1 T 610 611 -1 threesuperior 299 300 -1 trademark 979 980 -1 twosuperior 299 300 -1 W 943 944 -1 z 443 444 -1 Z 610 611 -1 For reference, here is the simple awk program which was just written for this demonstration: # ====================================================================== # Compare glyph names and widths in two fonts whose AFM filenames are # given on the command line. # Usage: # awk -f compare-glyphs.awk file1.afm file2.afm # [04-Oct-2000] # ====================================================================== /^C / { if (FILENAME == ARGV[1]) w1[$8] = $5 else w2[$8] = $5 } END { for (glyph in w1) if (!(glyph in w2)) missing2 = missing2 "\n" glyph for (glyph in w2) if (!(glyph in w1)) missing1 = missing1 "\n" glyph if (missing2 != "") { cmd = "sort -f | pr -c4 -l10 -w80" print "Glyphs in " ARGV[1] " missing from " ARGV[2] print missing2 | cmd close(cmd) print "\n" } if (missing1 != "") { print "" cmd = "sort -f | pr -c4 -l10 -w80" print "Glyphs in " ARGV[2] " missing from " ARGV[1] print missing1 | cmd close(cmd) print "\n" } for (glyph in w2) { if ((glyph in w1) && (w1[glyph] != w2[glyph])) { if (header_count++ == 0) print "Glyph width mismatches between " ARGV[1] " and " ARGV[2] printf("%-23s\t%7d\t%7d\t%15d\n", glyph, w1[glyph], w2[glyph], w1[glyph] - w2[glyph]) | "sort -f" } } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Oct-2000 15:18:27-GMT,11359;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08716; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:18:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22332; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:18:15 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:18:15 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, rodgers@math.utah.edu, debar@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files Message-ID: According to the first edition of the PDF Reference Manual (ISBN 0-201-62628-4, p. 64), all PDF viewers should recognize these 14 base fonts Courier Courier-Bold Courier-BoldOblique Courier-Oblique Helvetica Helvetica-Bold Helvetica-BoldOblique Helvetica-Oblique Symbol Times-Bold Times-BoldItalic Times-Italic Times-Roman ZapfDingbats so that PDF files need not embed them. This substantially reduces the size of short PDF documents, if all they need are a typewriter font, a serif font, a sans serif font, a symbol font, and a dingbat font, in various weights and sizes. According to recent correspondence with ghostscript developers, the situation has gotten worse, because Microsoft wanted their own versions of those fonts, rather than Adobe's, to be the default (Arial \approx Helvetica, et al) on Windows platforms, and regrettably, Acrobat Distiller on some platforms is using Microsoft substitutes, even though they have somewhat different font metrics, which could completely ruin accurate horizontal text alignment. This is indeed a sad state of affairs, and the only recommended workaround is to request your PostScript-to-PDF conversion utility (usually Adobe Distiller, or ghostscript pdf2ps) to embed all fonts, including the base 14 listed above. Unfortunately, Distiller 3.02 (the most recent available on UNIX platforms, as far as I know) refuses to embed the base 14, even when requested to do so. I don't know whether Distiller 4 has any options to force embedding of the base 14. Compare the distillation of these two files, b.ps and h.ps: % cat b.ps %! PS-Adobe /Bookman-Demi findfont 24 scalefont setfont 100 100 moveto (This is Bookman-Demi at 24pt) show showpage % cat h.ps %! PS-Adobe /Helvetica-BoldOblique findfont 24 scalefont setfont 100 100 moveto (This is Helvetica-BoldOblique at 24pt) show showpage % distill -alwaysembed Helvetica-BoldOblique < h.ps > h.pdf % distill -alwaysembed Helvetica-BoldOblique < b.ps > b.pdf % ls -l b.pdf h.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 beebe staff 9066 Oct 4 08:09 b.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 beebe staff 1264 Oct 4 08:08 h.pdf >From the file sizes, there is a font embedded in b.pdf, but not in h.pdf. Run acroread 3.02 on each, and follow menu path File -> DocumentInfo -> Fonts to find in each case: Original Font Type Encoding Used Font Type -------------------------------------------------------------- Helvetica-Bold Type 1 Standard Arial-BoldMT Type 1 Bookman-Demi Type 1 Standard Embedded Subset Type 1 Notice that a Microsoft font entered the picture, and it is NOT a one-for-one replacement for the original Helvetica-Bold font, as this comparison of their .afm files shows: % awk -f compare-glyphs.awk Arial-Bold.afm Helvetica-Bold.afm Glyphs in Arial-Bold.afm missing from Helvetica-Bold.afm increment mu1 pi1 .null infinity nonmarkingreturn plusinus approxequal integral notequal product greaterequal lessequal Ohm radical guilsingleft lozenge overscore summation guilsingright middot partialdiff Glyphs in Helvetica-Bold.afm missing from Arial-Bold.afm Lslash minus Zcaron guilsinglleft lslash mu zcaron guilsinglright macron plusminus Glyph width mismatches between Arial-Bold.afm and Helvetica-Bold.afm divide 549 584 -35 Here is a similar report for the Microsoft and Adobe Times-Roman fonts, for which the differences are much more severe: % ttfps -a TimesNewRoman.afm TimesNewRoman.ttf TimesNewRoman.pfa % awk -f bin/compare-glyphs.awk TimesNewRoman.afm Times-Roman.afm Glyphs in TimesNewRoman.afm missing from Times-Roman.afm guilsingright middot partialdiff .notdef increment mu1 pi1 .null infinity nonmarkingreturn plusinus approxequal integral notequal product greaterequal lessequal Ohm radical guilsingleft lozenge overscore summation Glyphs in Times-Roman.afm missing from TimesNewRoman.afm Lslash minus Zcaron guilsinglleft lslash mu zcaron guilsinglright macron plusminus Glyph width mismatches between TimesNewRoman.afm and Times-Roman.afm a 443 444 -1 aacute 443 444 -1 acircumflex 443 444 -1 adieresis 443 444 -1 ae 666 667 -1 agrave 443 444 -1 ampersand 777 778 -1 aring 443 444 -1 at 920 921 -1 atilde 443 444 -1 B 666 667 -1 backslash 277 278 -1 braceleft 479 480 -1 braceright 479 480 -1 c 443 444 -1 C 666 667 -1 ccedilla 443 444 -1 Ccedilla 666 667 -1 colon 277 278 -1 copyright 759 760 -1 degree 399 400 -1 divide 548 564 -16 dotlessi 277 278 -1 e 443 444 -1 E 610 611 -1 eacute 443 444 -1 Eacute 610 611 -1 ecircumflex 443 444 -1 Ecircumflex 610 611 -1 edieresis 443 444 -1 Edieresis 610 611 -1 egrave 443 444 -1 Egrave 610 611 -1 equal 563 564 -1 fraction 166 167 -1 greater 563 564 -1 i 277 278 -1 iacute 277 278 -1 icircumflex 277 278 -1 idieresis 277 278 -1 igrave 277 278 -1 j 277 278 -1 l 277 278 -1 L 610 611 -1 less 563 564 -1 logicalnot 563 564 -1 m 777 778 -1 multiply 563 564 -1 onesuperior 299 300 -1 ordfeminine 275 276 -1 plus 563 564 -1 question 443 444 -1 questiondown 443 444 -1 quotedblbase 443 444 -1 quotedblleft 443 444 -1 quotedblright 443 444 -1 R 666 667 -1 registered 759 760 -1 semicolon 277 278 -1 slash 277 278 -1 t 277 278 -1 T 610 611 -1 threesuperior 299 300 -1 trademark 979 980 -1 twosuperior 299 300 -1 W 943 944 -1 z 443 444 -1 Z 610 611 -1 For reference, here is the simple awk program which was just written for this demonstration: # ====================================================================== # Compare glyph names and widths in two fonts whose AFM filenames are # given on the command line. # Usage: # awk -f compare-glyphs.awk file1.afm file2.afm # [04-Oct-2000] # ====================================================================== /^C / { if (FILENAME == ARGV[1]) w1[$8] = $5 else w2[$8] = $5 } END { for (glyph in w1) if (!(glyph in w2)) missing2 = missing2 "\n" glyph for (glyph in w2) if (!(glyph in w1)) missing1 = missing1 "\n" glyph if (missing2 != "") { cmd = "sort -f | pr -c4 -l10 -w80" print "Glyphs in " ARGV[1] " missing from " ARGV[2] print missing2 | cmd close(cmd) print "\n" } if (missing1 != "") { print "" cmd = "sort -f | pr -c4 -l10 -w80" print "Glyphs in " ARGV[2] " missing from " ARGV[1] print missing1 | cmd close(cmd) print "\n" } for (glyph in w2) { if ((glyph in w1) && (w1[glyph] != w2[glyph])) { if (header_count++ == 0) print "Glyph width mismatches between " ARGV[1] " and " ARGV[2] printf("%-23s\t%7d\t%7d\t%15d\n", glyph, w1[glyph], w2[glyph], w1[glyph] - w2[glyph]) | "sort -f" } } } ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Oct-2000 18:13:59-GMT,1842;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14203 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:13:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10100 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:28:36 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10097 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:28:34 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22212 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:30:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: pdftex list Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > This is indeed a sad state of affairs, and the only recommended > workaround is to request your PostScript-to-PDF conversion utility > (usually Adobe Distiller, or ghostscript pdf2ps) to embed all fonts, > including the base 14 listed above. Unfortunately, Distiller 3.02 > (the most recent available on UNIX platforms, as far as I know) > refuses to embed the base 14, even when requested to do so. I don't > know whether Distiller 4 has any options to force embedding of the > base 14. > Distiller 4.0 will embed the base 14 fonts when you turn embed all fonts on and do not add the base 14 fonts to the exclusion list. In fact, you have to add the base 14 fonts to the exclusion list to get Distiller 4.0 to treat the base 14 fonts like Distiller 3.0 does. Tom 4-Oct-2000 19:19:20-GMT,1929;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16018; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:19:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22064; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:19:18 -0400 (EDT) To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Cc: pdftex@tug.org, rodgers@math.utah.edu, debar@math.utah.edu Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files References: From: Ed L Cashin Date: 04 Oct 2000 15:19:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe"'s message of "Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:18:15 -0600 (MDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nelson H. F. Beebe writes: ... > According to recent correspondence with ghostscript developers, the > situation has gotten worse, because Microsoft wanted their own > versions of those fonts, rather than Adobe's, to be the default > (Arial \approx Helvetica, et al) on Windows platforms, and > regrettably, Acrobat Distiller on some platforms is using Microsoft > substitutes, even though they have somewhat different font metrics, > which could completely ruin accurate horizontal text alignment. Have you contacted Adobe to submit a bug report? In recent correspondance, an Adobe employee told me that Adobe is responsive to bug reports and has an established system for dealing with them. Even if it's not true, and Adobe is unresponsive to bug reports, at least you will let them know that the problem is not going unnoticed. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 4-Oct-2000 19:56:18-GMT,2276;000000000011 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16951 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:56:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10253 for pdftex-list; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:17:46 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10250 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:17:45 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22064; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:19:18 -0400 (EDT) To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Cc: pdftex@tug.org, rodgers@math.utah.edu, debar@math.utah.edu Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files References: From: Ed L Cashin Date: 04 Oct 2000 15:19:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe"'s message of "Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:18:15 -0600 (MDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Nelson H. F. Beebe writes: ... > According to recent correspondence with ghostscript developers, the > situation has gotten worse, because Microsoft wanted their own > versions of those fonts, rather than Adobe's, to be the default > (Arial \approx Helvetica, et al) on Windows platforms, and > regrettably, Acrobat Distiller on some platforms is using Microsoft > substitutes, even though they have somewhat different font metrics, > which could completely ruin accurate horizontal text alignment. Have you contacted Adobe to submit a bug report? In recent correspondance, an Adobe employee told me that Adobe is responsive to bug reports and has an established system for dealing with them. Even if it's not true, and Adobe is unresponsive to bug reports, at least you will let them know that the problem is not going unnoticed. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 5-Oct-2000 7:29:25-GMT,1255;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01457 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 01:29:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA11197 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 02:53:33 -0400 Received: from goemail02.mahr.de (goemail02.mahr.de [195.211.88.133] (may be forged)) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11194 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 02:53:30 -0400 Message-ID: <3FDF45ACE495D311BA8E005004384C150CD2F4@FS01-WAD> From: "Vollmer, Marc" To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Start Reader without table of contents Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:55:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I try to start the Acrobat Reader only with the first site of the document, without the table of contents. The reader should run in window not FULLSCREEN. My hypersetup is: \hypersetup{colorlinks = true, linkcolor = blue, pdftitle = Test, pdfsubject = now, pdfauthor = Marc Vollmer} What I must add that it do it? Marc Vollmer 5-Oct-2000 9:54:31-GMT,3558;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA03844 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 03:54:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.146.161]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id G1YBHT00.OLF; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:53:53 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001005093345.01222320@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 09:33:45 +0200 To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:18 AM 10/4/00 -0600, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: >According to recent correspondence with ghostscript developers, the >situation has gotten worse, because Microsoft wanted their own >versions of those fonts, rather than Adobe's, to be the default (Arial >\approx Helvetica, et al) on Windows platforms, and regrettably, >Acrobat Distiller on some platforms is using Microsoft substitutes, >even though they have somewhat different font metrics, which could >completely ruin accurate horizontal text alignment. I always thought that adobe was concerned with quality, but more and more I find out that they don't care that much. Then, isn't there one area where MS can not dominate? Is there still any big company around who does care about such issues? I fear that it already started with the bounding box being rounded numbers, and bp replacing pt [i wonder how many dtp users know that what is presented as pt is not a pt] so accuracy has never been an objective [which is why mpost pictures ca look so accurate compared to whatever], so who cares about glyphs being displaced. So, with multiple master fonts canceled, and stupid optimizations built in acrobat, os's forcing fonts, and a gui renderer that cannot even draw a circle, what will happen to pdf? >Original Font Type Encoding Used Font Type >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Helvetica-Bold Type 1 Standard Arial-BoldMT Type 1 >Bookman-Demi Type 1 Standard Embedded Subset Type 1 and then you may cross your fingers that standard encoding is standard, even pdf doc encoding differs per platform >Glyphs in Arial-Bold.afm missing from Helvetica-Bold.afm > increment mu1 pi1 >.null infinity nonmarkingreturn plusinus >approxequal integral notequal product >greaterequal lessequal Ohm radical >guilsingleft lozenge overscore summation >guilsingright middot partialdiff aaaagh, so apart from metrics, the glyphs are missing. I guess that it's about time that pdftex is hard coded to embed the base fonts! You did a good job pointing this out in detail. I knew that it was bad, but not that it was that bad! Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Oct-2000 10:26:38-GMT,2387;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04360 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 04:26:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11401 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:51:25 -0400 Received: from heinrichschiff.igd.fhg.de (heinrichschiff.igd.fhg.de [153.97.150.5]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11398 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:51:23 -0400 Received: from schwind.igd.fhg.de.igd.fhg.de (schwind.igd.fhg.de [153.97.132.72]) by heinrichschiff.igd.fhg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09450 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:52:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Gabriel Zachmann Received: by schwind.igd.fhg.de.igd.fhg.de (980427.SGI.8.8.8/SMI-4.0) id LAA30424; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:52:58 +0200 (MDT) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:52:58 +0200 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010050952.LAA30424@schwind.igd.fhg.de.igd.fhg.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Fwd: Re: pdflatex doesn't find image Reply-To: zach@igd.fhg.de (Gabriel Zachmann) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Path: news.tu-darmstadt.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!pd4b9e1e4.dip.t-dialin.NET !not-for-mail From: Thomas Esser Newsgroups: comp.text.tex Subject: Re: pdflatex doesn't find image Date: 4 Oct 2000 18:29:58 GMT Lines: 16 Message-ID: <8rfsv6$i48jv$2@ID-13815.news.cis.dfn.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pd4b9e1e4.dip.t-dialin.net (212.185.225.228) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 970684198 19014271 212.185.225.228 (16 [13815]) User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-19990805 ("Preacher Man") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.14 (i686)) Xref: news.tu-darmstadt.de comp.text.tex:195452 Gabriel Zachmann wrote: > Could somebody please give me a hint, as to why pdflatex doesn't find > an image? pdftex reads the image twice: once for the "tex"-step in which only the bounding box is relevant (and the TEXINPUTS path is used) and once for the "driver"-step in which the image gets included in the output (using the TEXPSHEADERS path) Well, actually, it would be better and less confusing if only one path would be used... Maybe, you should suggest this to the pdftex list (-> pdftex@tug.org). Thomas NB [GZ]: This was actually the solution. Gab. 5-Oct-2000 10:26:51-GMT,3626;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04367 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 04:26:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11410 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:52:32 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11407 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:52:29 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.146.161]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id G1YBHX00.OLI; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:53:57 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001005094906.01222320@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 09:49:06 +0200 To: Ed L Cashin From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <"Nelson H. F. Beebe"'s message of "Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:18:15 -0600 (MDT)"> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 03:19 PM 10/4/00 -0400, Ed L Cashin wrote: >Nelson H. F. Beebe writes: > >... >> According to recent correspondence with ghostscript developers, the >> situation has gotten worse, because Microsoft wanted their own >> versions of those fonts, rather than Adobe's, to be the default >> (Arial \approx Helvetica, et al) on Windows platforms, and >> regrettably, Acrobat Distiller on some platforms is using Microsoft >> substitutes, even though they have somewhat different font metrics, >> which could completely ruin accurate horizontal text alignment. > >Have you contacted Adobe to submit a bug report? In recent >correspondance, an Adobe employee told me that Adobe is responsive to >bug reports and has an established system for dealing with them. Is this a joke? I quit sending bug reports and files showing them after i got the mail "sorry, sending bugs is no longer needed since the beta program is finished, you may now use the regular channels" and then of course you have to go to adobe europe [no comment on that -]. And, never make the error to send something you consider a bug to the developers association as a question "can you help me, i encounter something strange", because then you get responses like "this is not a problem, you can read more in the manual on page ..." a followed by some 50 sentences explaining that you have now used up one of the 5 credit points [that was the last time i paid for the dev ass]. So: a waste of time, we can best solve it ourselves. [btw, some bugs I sent them many years ago, with files showing the problems, are still in the reader, but since I programmed around them [which you can do with tex] i happily forgot what bugs they were. For me the most annoying now is the base 15 font issue. >Even if it's not true, and Adobe is unresponsive to bug reports, at >least you will let them know that the problem is not going unnoticed. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Oct-2000 10:27:07-GMT,3885;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04375 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 04:27:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11414 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:52:40 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11411 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:52:39 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.146.161]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id G1YBHT00.OLF; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:53:53 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001005093345.01222320@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 09:33:45 +0200 To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:18 AM 10/4/00 -0600, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: >According to recent correspondence with ghostscript developers, the >situation has gotten worse, because Microsoft wanted their own >versions of those fonts, rather than Adobe's, to be the default (Arial >\approx Helvetica, et al) on Windows platforms, and regrettably, >Acrobat Distiller on some platforms is using Microsoft substitutes, >even though they have somewhat different font metrics, which could >completely ruin accurate horizontal text alignment. I always thought that adobe was concerned with quality, but more and more I find out that they don't care that much. Then, isn't there one area where MS can not dominate? Is there still any big company around who does care about such issues? I fear that it already started with the bounding box being rounded numbers, and bp replacing pt [i wonder how many dtp users know that what is presented as pt is not a pt] so accuracy has never been an objective [which is why mpost pictures ca look so accurate compared to whatever], so who cares about glyphs being displaced. So, with multiple master fonts canceled, and stupid optimizations built in acrobat, os's forcing fonts, and a gui renderer that cannot even draw a circle, what will happen to pdf? >Original Font Type Encoding Used Font Type >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Helvetica-Bold Type 1 Standard Arial-BoldMT Type 1 >Bookman-Demi Type 1 Standard Embedded Subset Type 1 and then you may cross your fingers that standard encoding is standard, even pdf doc encoding differs per platform >Glyphs in Arial-Bold.afm missing from Helvetica-Bold.afm > increment mu1 pi1 >.null infinity nonmarkingreturn plusinus >approxequal integral notequal product >greaterequal lessequal Ohm radical >guilsingleft lozenge overscore summation >guilsingright middot partialdiff aaaagh, so apart from metrics, the glyphs are missing. I guess that it's about time that pdftex is hard coded to embed the base fonts! You did a good job pointing this out in detail. I knew that it was bad, but not that it was that bad! Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Oct-2000 11:00:19-GMT,2005;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04958 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 05:00:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA11444 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 06:26:47 -0400 Received: from server-a.cs.interbusiness.it (HA-server-a.cs.interbusiness.it [151.99.250.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11441 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 06:26:44 -0400 Received: from ballabl.riskmap.net ([213.82.18.20]) by server-a.cs.interbusiness.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27564; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:19:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001005122506.00a55eb0@mail.riskmap.net> X-Sender: 45083.luigi.ballabio@mail.riskmap.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 12:33:15 +0100 To: "Vollmer, Marc" , "'pdftex@tug.org'" From: Luigi Ballabio Subject: Re: Start Reader without table of contents In-Reply-To: <3FDF45ACE495D311BA8E005004384C150CD2F4@FS01-WAD> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:55 AM 10/5/00 +0200, Vollmer, Marc wrote: >I try to start the Acrobat Reader only with the first site of the document, >without the table of contents. The reader should run in window not >FULLSCREEN. > >My hypersetup is: > >\hypersetup{colorlinks = true, > linkcolor = blue, > pdftitle = Test, > pdfsubject = now, > pdfauthor = Marc Vollmer} > >What I must add that it do it? > >Marc Vollmer add pdfpagemode = None to the hypersetup. You can choose None, UseThumbs for thumbnails, UseOutlines for bookmarks, or FullScreen. You can also add pdfstartview = Fit for starting in Fit Window view, or pdfstartview = FitH for starting in Fit Width view. Bye, Luigi 5-Oct-2000 14:16:59-GMT,2480;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08448 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:16:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11905 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:37:05 -0400 Received: from mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (sirius-ether.rz.uni-ulm.de [134.60.1.36]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11902 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:37:03 -0400 Received: from endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de (endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de [134.60.110.38]) by mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA26659 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:39 +0200 (MEST) Received: by endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de with Microsoft Mail id <01C02EE3.0E4D8870@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de>; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:43:49 +0200 Message-ID: <01C02EE3.0E4D8870@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de> From: Bernhard Kleine To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: Start Reader without table of contents Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:43:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id JAA11903 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Would you be so kind and point to the place where these options and the use of pdfspecials are **well** documented. I have tried to read the manual and these things are IMHO not so clearly documented. Bernhard ---------- Von: Luigi Ballabio[SMTP:luigi.ballabio@riskmap.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Oktober 2000 13:33 An: Vollmer, Marc; 'pdftex@tug.org' Betreff: Re: Start Reader without table of contents At 08:55 AM 10/5/00 +0200, Vollmer, Marc wrote: >I try to start the Acrobat Reader only with the first site of the document, >without the table of contents. The reader should run in window not >FULLSCREEN. > >My hypersetup is: > >\hypersetup{colorlinks = true, > linkcolor = blue, > pdftitle = Test, > pdfsubject = now, > pdfauthor = Marc Vollmer} > >What I must add that it do it? > >Marc Vollmer add pdfpagemode = None to the hypersetup. You can choose None, UseThumbs for thumbnails, UseOutlines for bookmarks, or FullScreen. You can also add pdfstartview = Fit for starting in Fit Window view, or pdfstartview = FitH for starting in Fit Width view. Bye, Luigi 5-Oct-2000 16:06:01-GMT,2832;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11362 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:05:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12102 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:16:12 -0400 Received: from orion.math.iastate.edu (IDENT:root@orion.math.iastate.edu [129.186.52.80]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12099 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:16:10 -0400 Received: from bergman.math.iastate.edu (IDENT:cliff@bergman.math.iastate.edu [129.186.52.64]) by orion.math.iastate.edu (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA03361 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:17:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200010051517.KAA03361@orion.math.iastate.edu> From: Cliff Bergman To: pdftex@tug.org Reply-To: cbergman@iastate.edu Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files In-Reply-To: Organization: Iowa State University Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:17:46 +0108 (CDT) X-Mailer: XCmail 1.2 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'm a bit confused. According to Mr. Beebe: > According to recent correspondence with ghostscript developers, the > situation has gotten worse, because Microsoft wanted their own > versions of those fonts, rather than Adobe's, to be the default (Arial > \approx Helvetica, et al) on Windows platforms, and regrettably, > Acrobat Distiller on some platforms is using Microsoft substitutes, > even though they have somewhat different font metrics, which could > completely ruin accurate horizontal text alignment. > Now is it _distiller_ that is making this font substitution or _reader_ (or both!)? I just tried a small latex file with \usepackage{times}, ran it through pdflatex and then viewed it on screen with acrobat reader under linux. The font info window indicates that TimesRoman and Helvetica are substituted with TimesNewRomanPSMT and ArialMT. And sure enough, if I print the file (from within reader) the font metrics are completely different than if I run the file through latex and then dvips. Thus it seems to me that it is not enough to simply process the source correctly on your end. The person downloading, reading and printing the file on the other end will still get the wrong fonts! A sad state of affairs indeed. By the way, I am using Acrobat Reader 4.0 under linux and pdftex version 3.14159-0.13d with the default setup under tetex. Is there some change to the configuration files that I should be making? --cliff b. 5-Oct-2000 16:52:35-GMT,3260;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12488 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:52:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12239 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:21:21 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12236 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:21:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (ripley@localhost) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA08607; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 17:22:55 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: toucan.stats: ripley owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 17:22:55 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian Ripley X-Sender: ripley@toucan.stats To: Bernhard Kleine cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: Start Reader without table of contents In-Reply-To: <01C02EE3.0E4D8870@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Bernhard Kleine wrote: > Would you be so kind and point to the place where these options and the use of pdfspecials are **well** documented. I have tried to read the manual and these things are IMHO not so clearly documented. Which manual? AFAIK these are options to the hyperref package, and I think the explanation in the hyperref manual is clear enough. Of course you can do these things via pdfspecials, but why not leave it to Sebastian and Heiko to fathom that out and cope with the changes in the interface at that level (as Hans Hagen pointed out a day or two ago pdftex is still beta and the raw interface is best hidden by a macro package. > > Bernhard > > ---------- > Von: Luigi Ballabio[SMTP:luigi.ballabio@riskmap.net] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Oktober 2000 13:33 > An: Vollmer, Marc; 'pdftex@tug.org' > Betreff: Re: Start Reader without table of contents > > At 08:55 AM 10/5/00 +0200, Vollmer, Marc wrote: > >I try to start the Acrobat Reader only with the first site of the document, > >without the table of contents. The reader should run in window not > >FULLSCREEN. > > > >My hypersetup is: > > > >\hypersetup{colorlinks = true, > > linkcolor = blue, > > pdftitle = Test, > > pdfsubject = now, > > pdfauthor = Marc Vollmer} > > > >What I must add that it do it? > > > >Marc Vollmer > > add > pdfpagemode = None > to the hypersetup. You can choose None, UseThumbs for thumbnails, > UseOutlines for bookmarks, or FullScreen. > > You can also add > pdfstartview = Fit > for starting in Fit Window view, or > pdfstartview = FitH > for starting in Fit Width view. > > Bye, > Luigi > > > > -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 5-Oct-2000 16:55:20-GMT,2051;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12527 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:55:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12216 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:01:45 -0400 Received: from smtp2.flashnet.it (smtp2.flashnet.it [194.247.160.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12213 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:01:43 -0400 Received: from oemcomputer (ip130.pool-250.cyb.it [195.191.1.130]) by smtp2.flashnet.it (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id e95G3Gw07362; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:03:16 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20001005181232.01d44120@mbox2.flashnet.it> X-Sender: fn035144@mbox2.flashnet.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 18:12:32 +0200 To: Astrid Heinicke , tex From: chiari mario Subject: Re: pdf and Miktex In-Reply-To: <39DB2509.2977A21D@Oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, i am not a competent user, still everything works fine for me. This is how I do on WinEdt 1.414, MikTex one year old, Win98 (very low level description) -- WinEdt window. open menu accessories/run -- write 'pdflatex' -- when black windows opens, push Enter once -- type name of your .tex file (.pdf file is created, and it is put on the same folder as the original .tex file) -- open .pdf file with Acrobat reader Hope it helps see ya mario At 14.39 04/10/00 +0200, Astrid Heinicke wrote: >Hi, >I am a new pdftex user. I am attempting to use pdftex within Miktex. >Somehow it doesnt work properly. Since creation of dvi-files and >ps-files do work fine, I wonder why pdftex doesnt seem work. Could >anyone give me a hand? Would very much apreciate some step-by-step >guidance > >Thanks in advance >Astrid > >Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\Astrid.Heinicke.vcf" > 5-Oct-2000 22:18:24-GMT,2699;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20138 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:18:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12617 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:42:01 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12614 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:42:00 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.11.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e95KhPr02587 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:43:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu: cottrell owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:43:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell X-Sender: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files In-Reply-To: <200010051517.KAA03361@orion.math.iastate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Cliff Bergman wrote: > Now is it _distiller_ that is making this font substitution > or _reader_ (or both!)? I just tried a small latex file > with \usepackage{times}, ran it through pdflatex and then > viewed it on screen with acrobat reader under linux. The > font info window indicates that TimesRoman and Helvetica are > substituted with TimesNewRomanPSMT and ArialMT. Same here. > And sure enough, if I print the file (from within reader) > the font metrics are completely different than if I run the > file through latex and then dvips. > > Thus it seems to me that it is not enough to simply process > the source correctly on your end. The person downloading, > reading and printing the file on the other end will still > get the wrong fonts! A sad state of affairs indeed. Yes. I suppose the only ways out (taking adobe's use of Times New Roman and Arial in Acrobat Reader as irremediable) would be (a) to go out and buy the Times and Helvetica pfbs and force pdftex to embed them, or (b) modify one's LaTeX fonts setup to use the metrics for Times New Roman and Arial from the start. Choice (a) is unappealing (even ignoring the money) because a nice thing about using Times and co in pdf files is that they can be compact, not having to pack a lot of fonts. Choice (b) is unappealing because it means messing with the standard (and complex) mathtime setup. Unless of course some saint hands us a suitably modified version on a plate ;-) Allin Cottrell. 6-Oct-2000 1:05:11-GMT,3418;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23490 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:05:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12759 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:21:49 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12756 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:21:48 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13hKRd-0006Uj-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:28:57 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id BAA24490 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:22:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13hKKi-004wwRC; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:21:48 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:21:48 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files Message-ID: <20001006012148.A12347@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <200010051517.KAA03361@orion.math.iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from cottrell@wfu.edu on Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 04:43:25PM -0400 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-10-05 16:43:25 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote: > Yes. I suppose the only ways out (taking adobe's use of Times > New Roman and Arial in Acrobat Reader as irremediable) would be > (a) to go out and buy the Times and Helvetica pfbs and force > pdftex to embed them, or (b) modify one's LaTeX fonts setup to > use the metrics for Times New Roman and Arial from the start. >=20 > Choice (a) is unappealing (even ignoring the money) because a > nice thing about using Times and co in pdf files is that they > can be compact, not having to pack a lot of fonts. AFAIK the basic 14 fonts came with Reader 3.x and can (even legally) be used. IANAL. :-) Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOd0NDPhOymx+mbrBAQHfCAf+PS/QYWb67nOyRCB3bxfDKapSuw/5Pbks IE5XcyyS/fXO9zPu4TFlS+4ocx9gGX9td7ghFVPtvC81mYSlNK7D+lvc8vLHyibV 1z03efGprjJ4M8jpmjB7paxsN+1q/FN8hLAXdO0GlLsuGpp19bfoVvskxg2E4UUX /jBRPA663/VFB0ntE+8RiVzh9O5g1YTu6YrQTwe8t6mRRA4yRha+NKaiP1LcyCMm PytzDS8rrj1k9LZC2BqO2F6ZluAifJVeICwLFsBo3vNM1grh+oE/Y91MwnkHRYQA iEsk8a9ADKEMI8RlJx6IWFJPDkOJbqxTBc9epb30xkMcHzEC9JlXwA== =AiQR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- 6-Oct-2000 1:20:53-GMT,2073;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23787 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:20:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12814 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:51:06 -0400 Received: from nova.kettering.edu (nova.kettering.edu [192.138.137.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12811 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:51:04 -0400 Received: from gaspra.kettering.edu (IDENT:root@gaspra.kettering.edu [198.110.4.97]) by nova.kettering.edu (8.10.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e960qg711435 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:mwicks@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gaspra.kettering.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18279 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:52:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:52:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark A. Wicks" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > (a) to go out and buy the Times and Helvetica pfbs and force > pdftex to embed them, or If you have GhostScript, you already have suitable pfbs to embed (e.g., n021003l.pfb). IMHO, explicitly embedding these fonts in your PDF document is the only sensible thing to do. > (b) modify one's LaTeX fonts setup to > use the metrics for Times New Roman and Arial from the start. That's assuming you have no Acrobat 3.0 users in your audience. If you did this, somebody using Acrobat Reader 3.0 would end up with Adobe Times Roman typset with Times New Roman metrics. The only way to be absolutely certain that the file was typset using metrics that belong with the font displayed on the user's screen is to explicitly embed the font. 6-Oct-2000 2:14:51-GMT,2169;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24842 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:14:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12848 for pdftex-list; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:40:13 -0400 Received: from mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (mx1.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.112.76]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12845 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:40:11 -0400 Received: from s1.optonline.net (s1.optonline.net [167.206.112.6]) by mx1.hcvlny.cv.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e961ffo17912 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:41:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hunt108-151.optonline.net (ool-18bc2375.dyn.optonline.net [24.188.35.117]) by s1.optonline.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e961ffo00836 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:41:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ats@localhost) by hunt108-151.optonline.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e961fZG06733; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:41:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: wesley.springies.com: ats set sender to ats@acm.org using -f To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files References: Mail-Copies-To: nobody From: Alan Shutko Date: 05 Oct 2000 21:30:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Mark A. Wicks"'s message of "Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:52:41 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: <87zokieoxm.fsf@wesley.springies.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 13 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "Mark A. Wicks" writes: > The only way to be absolutely certain that the file was typset using > metrics that belong with the font displayed on the user's screen is to > explicitly embed the font. Is that actually true these days? I swear that I remember Acroread used to use system fonts even if the font was embedded.... -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! 36 days, 14 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds till we run away. A mushroom cloud has no silver lining. 6-Oct-2000 4:56:53-GMT,2139;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27947 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:56:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA13232 for pdftex-list; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:05:30 -0400 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (root@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA13229 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:05:23 -0400 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22072; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:06:58 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA01054; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:06:55 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200010060406.PAA01054@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files In-Reply-To: <87zokieoxm.fsf@wesley.springies.com> from Alan Shutko at "Oct 5, 2000 09:30:45 pm" To: Alan Shutko Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:06:55 +1100 (EST) CC: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > "Mark A. Wicks" writes: > > > The only way to be absolutely certain that the file was typset using > > metrics that belong with the font displayed on the user's screen is to > > explicitly embed the font. > > Is that actually true these days? I swear that I remember Acroread > used to use system fonts even if the font was embedded.... I think it does this too, but it may be configurable. Indeed, if a non-free Adobe font is embedded, but *not* in the system, then I think Acroread substitutes a system font for it. If true, then this is their way of being paranoid about licensing. Ross Moore > -- > Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! > 36 days, 14 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds till we run away. > A mushroom cloud has no silver lining. 6-Oct-2000 7:56:12-GMT,3167;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01235 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:56:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13371 for pdftex-list; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 02:59:18 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13368 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 02:59:17 -0400 Received: from max135.public.ox.ac.uk (max135.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.135]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA09322; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:00:52 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:59:06 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: "Mark A. Wicks" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Mark A. Wicks wrote: > > > (a) to go out and buy the Times and Helvetica pfbs and force > > pdftex to embed them, or > > If you have GhostScript, you already have suitable pfbs to embed (e.g., > n021003l.pfb). IMHO, explicitly embedding these fonts in your PDF document > is the only sensible thing to do. > > > (b) modify one's LaTeX fonts setup to > > use the metrics for Times New Roman and Arial from the start. > > That's assuming you have no Acrobat 3.0 users in your audience. If you > did this, somebody using Acrobat Reader 3.0 would end up with Adobe Times > Roman typset with Times New Roman metrics. As far as I can see when you print from Acroread 4.05 on Solaris (which also substitutes ArialMT for Helvetica) or Linux, you get Times and Helvetica in the postscript and hence in the printer. So I think that actually Acroread 4.x users will get Adobe Times Roman printed with Times New Roman metrics. > The only way to be absolutely certain that the file was typset using > metrics that belong with the font displayed on the user's screen is to > explicitly embed the font. Right, but I'm not so bothered about what they see on screen, where I suspect rasterization effects are of the same order as the differences in font metrics. What matters more to me is what happens when the output goes to a 1200dpi printer. Printing on Windows is another matter, and something I try to avoid. In so far as I can tell, on our particular Windows NT setup with a postscript printer and Adobe printer driver, the built-in printer fonts are used. In brief: my contribution is that screen and printing fonts used by Acroread may be different even on Unix/Linux. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 6-Oct-2000 8:14:08-GMT,1652;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01545 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 02:14:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA13437 for pdftex-list; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 03:31:50 -0400 Received: from mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (sirius-ether.rz.uni-ulm.de [134.60.1.36]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA13434 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 03:31:44 -0400 Received: from endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de (endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de [134.60.110.38]) by mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA26644 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:39:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: by endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de with Microsoft Mail id <01C02F1D.D6DC1B00@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de>; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:44:37 +0200 Message-ID: <01C02F1D.D6DC1B00@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de> From: Bernhard Kleine To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: Start Reader without table of contents Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:44:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id DAA13435 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Not my day! I mixed the pdftex docu with the hyperref docu. IMHO the first has, for my little mind, information presented which I could not understand even when reading it several times. Please do not answer when you were able to understand it fully, you must have a better capacity for tex and pdftex. Bernhard 6-Oct-2000 8:14:35-GMT,2027;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01556 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 02:14:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA13432 for pdftex-list; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 03:30:44 -0400 Received: from server-a.cs.interbusiness.it (HA-server-a.cs.interbusiness.it [151.99.250.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA13429 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 03:30:27 -0400 Received: from ballabl.riskmap.net ([213.82.18.20]) by server-a.cs.interbusiness.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29399; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:23:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001006093555.00a3feb0@mail.riskmap.net> X-Sender: 45083.luigi.ballabio@mail.riskmap.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:38:04 +0100 To: Bernhard Kleine From: Luigi Ballabio Subject: Re: Start Reader without table of contents Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" In-Reply-To: References: <01C02EE3.0E4D8870@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 05:22 PM 10/5/00 +0100, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: >On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Bernhard Kleine wrote: > > > Would you be so kind and point to the place where these options >and the use of pdfspecials are **well** documented. I have tried to read the >manual and these things are IMHO not so clearly documented. > >Which manual? AFAIK these are options to the hyperref package, and I >think the explanation in the hyperref manual is clear enough. It is true, I just took those from the hyperref manual (www.ctan.org and look for hypertex if you don't have it). I might have added a bit of good old trial and error. I'm afraid I don't know about pdfspecials. Bye, Luigi 6-Oct-2000 11:20:18-GMT,1896;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA04702 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:20:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA13610 for pdftex-list; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:54:28 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA13607 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:54:26 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13hUEZ-0007Es-00; Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:56:07 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13hUEb-0005ZV-00; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:56:09 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14813.41443.135515.786835@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:56:51 +0100 To: bernhard.kleine@medizin.uni-ulm.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Start Reader without table of contents In-Reply-To: <01C02F1D.D6DC1B00@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de> References: <01C02F1D.D6DC1B00@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Bernhard Kleine writes: > I mixed the pdftex docu with the hyperref docu. IMHO the first has, > for my little mind, information presented which I could not > understand even when reading it several times. I think this confirms the point made earlier - the pdftex documentation is for macro package developers, who *have* to understand it. A normal LaTeX user should not need to, any more than they have to understand the innards of latex.ltx Sebastian 6-Oct-2000 12:01:58-GMT,2318;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05424 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 06:01:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA13708 for pdftex-list; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:21:25 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13705 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:21:23 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA12434; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:18:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:18:40 +0200 Message-Id: <200010051818.UAA12434@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Bernhard Kleine Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: Start Reader without table of contents In-Reply-To: <01C02EE3.0E4D8870@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de> References: <01C02EE3.0E4D8870@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Bernhard" == Bernhard Kleine writes: > Would you be so kind and point to the place where these options > and the use of pdfspecials are **well** documented. I have tried > to read the manual and these things are IMHO not so clearly > documented. It's described in the hyperref documentation. If you're using teTeX or fpTeX then there should be a file texmf/doc/latex/hyperref/manual.pdf Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Oct-2000 15:24:37-GMT,2729;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09646 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:24:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13923 for pdftex-list; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:40:16 -0400 Received: from orion.math.iastate.edu (IDENT:root@orion.math.iastate.edu [129.186.52.80]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13920 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:40:15 -0400 Received: from bergman.math.iastate.edu (IDENT:cliff@bergman.math.iastate.edu [129.186.52.64]) by orion.math.iastate.edu (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA13672 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:41:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200010061441.JAA13672@orion.math.iastate.edu> From: Cliff Bergman To: pdftex@tug.org Reply-To: cbergman@iastate.edu Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files In-Reply-To: Organization: Iowa State University Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:41:55 +0108 (CDT) X-Mailer: XCmail 1.2 - with PGP support, PGP engine version 0.5 (Linux) X-Mailerorigin: http://www.fsai.fh-trier.de/~schmitzj/Xclasses/XCmail/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Brian Ripley Writes.... > > As far as I can see when you print from Acroread 4.05 on Solaris (which > also substitutes ArialMT for Helvetica) or Linux, you get Times and > Helvetica in the postscript and hence in the printer. So I think that > actually Acroread 4.x users will get Adobe Times Roman printed with Times > New Roman metrics. > .... > In brief: my contribution is that screen and printing fonts used by > Acroread may be different even on Unix/Linux. Well it doesn't look that way to me (Redhat linux with its tetex distribution "out of the box"). I took a simple test file, ran it through: latex -> dvips -> lpr and pdflatex -> acroread -> printer (using the print menu) When I put one page on top of the other and hold them up to the light, the two are different. --cliff bergman Here is the test file (in case you care): \documentclass{article} \usepackage{times} \setlength{\parskip}{12pt} \begin{document} \thispagestyle{empty} This is Times-Roman. {\large This is Times-Roman large.} {\Large This is even Larger!} {\LARGE And this is LARGE.} {\huge Is there a huge size?} {\Huge How about a really huge?} \sffamily This is Helvetica. {\large This is Helvetica large.} {\Large This is even Larger!} {\LARGE And this is LARGE.} {\huge Is there a huge size?} {\Huge How about a really huge?} \end{document} 6-Oct-2000 18:00:30-GMT,3144;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13760 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14112 for pdftex-list; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:59:51 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14109 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:59:49 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats (toucan.stats [163.1.20.20]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA11285; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:01:28 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200010061701.SAA11285@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:01:28 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian Ripley Reply-To: Prof Brian Ripley Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files To: cbergman@iastate.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 5kUfadMIx9vKg3AvKi3XZA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > From: Cliff Bergman > Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:41:55 +0108 (CDT) > > Brian Ripley Writes.... > > > > > As far as I can see when you print from Acroread 4.05 on Solaris (which > > also substitutes ArialMT for Helvetica) or Linux, you get Times and > > Helvetica in the postscript and hence in the printer. So I think that > > actually Acroread 4.x users will get Adobe Times Roman printed with Times > > New Roman metrics. > > .... > > > In brief: my contribution is that screen and printing fonts used by > > Acroread may be different even on Unix/Linux. > > Well it doesn't look that way to me (Redhat linux with its tetex > distribution "out of the box"). I took a simple test file, ran it through: RedHat has a nasty habit of shipping beta distributions (RH6.0, for example had a rather strange teTeX beta), so I'd be happier with a released teTeX, and that's what I used for my tests, with Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525. > latex -> dvips -> lpr and > pdflatex -> acroread -> printer (using the print menu) > When I put one page on top of the other and hold them up to the light, the > two are different. That's irrelevant: it is equally true for completely embedded cm fonts, as I thought it would be. (Try it, ensuring dvips does use type1 cm fonts. There are lots of other differences besides possible font substitution between your two pathways.) The issue here is font substitution in PDF viewers, and if they substitute on-screen and not when printing then there is no way one can optimize font metrics for both. I am suggesting one should usually target printing (in the .... part). -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 6-Oct-2000 23:09:30-GMT,4936;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21215 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:09:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14344 for pdftex-list; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:25:54 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14341 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:25:51 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA24885; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:27:32 +0200 Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:27:32 +0200 Message-Id: <200010062227.AAA24885@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cbergman@iastate.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files In-Reply-To: <200010061441.JAA13672@orion.math.iastate.edu> References: <200010061441.JAA13672@orion.math.iastate.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Cliff" == Cliff Bergman writes: > Brian Ripley Writes.... >> As far as I can see when you print from Acroread 4.05 on >> Solaris (which also substitutes ArialMT for Helvetica) or >> Linux, you get Times and Helvetica in the postscript and hence >> in the printer. So I think that actually Acroread 4.x users >> will get Adobe Times Roman printed with Times New Roman >> metrics. .... >> In brief: my contribution is that screen and printing fonts >> used by Acroread may be different even on Unix/Linux. > Well it doesn't look that way to me (Redhat linux with its tetex > distribution "out of the box"). I took a simple test file, ran > it through: latex -> dvips -> lpr and pdflatex -> acroread -> > printer (using the print menu) When I put one page on top of the > other and hold them up to the light, the two are different. Hi, I just examined the PostScript output of Acrobat Reader 4.05. The pdf file was created by pdftex with \usepackage{times}. The ps file contained Times-Roman as outlines (using moveto, lineto and curveto operators). Before any text was typeset I inserted "25 dup scale". Then I modified the code that the character outlines are printed instead of the character itself. 0 0 Td .02 setlinewidth gsave (hello) false charpath stroke grestore Now I inserted the Times-Roman font that came with Acrabat Reader 3.0 and printed the same string in a different color at the same position. (That's the reason for the gsave/grestore pair) gsave /Times-Roman 10 selectfont .8 0 0 setrgbcolor .9963 dup scale gsave (hello) false charpath stroke grestore grestore The scale factor of .9963 was determined experimentally until both outlines matched exactly. Exactly means that if I used the highest magnificaion step of gv and then magnified it by the same factor again, there was absolutely no difference. That means that they actually use the Times-Roman metrics. Then I inserted the TimesNewRomanPSMT font comming with Acrobat Reader 4.05 and /TimesNewRomanPSMT 10 selectfont 0 0 .7 setrgbcolor .9963 dup scale gsave (hello) false charpath stroke grestore But these fonts had totally different shapes. These are the fonts that are used on the screen. But there is another reason why one always should embed fonts if one wants to have portable files. Most of the so called PostScript printers are not PostScript printers but just "PostScript compatible". They pretend to have Times, Helvetica and Courier fonts built in but that's a lie. At least our Kyocera FS-1700+ produces very bad output. The "Courier" is much bolder than the real Courier (maybe it's the Bitstream version) and the Helvetica had totally different shapes and metrics! Thus it makes a big difference whether I print from Acrobat Reader or used the pdftops utility which came with xdvi. In the latter case the printer resident fonts were used. BTW., if the Acrobat Reader only draws outlines, where are the hints gone? Isn't there a loss of quality if they are omitted? Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Oct-2000 2:07:00-GMT,2799;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24623 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:06:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA14456 for pdftex-list; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 21:16:35 -0400 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (root@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14453 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 21:16:32 -0400 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03903 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 12:18:12 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA08331 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 12:18:11 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200010070118.MAA08331@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: excessive use of fonts ? To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 12:18:11 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a document which, when processed by latex and pdflatex shows a remarkable difference in the number of fonts used: hugelatex: Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 5113 strings out of 50903 78747 string characters out of 447670 119855 words of memory out of 1100001 7953 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+15000 151287 words of font info for 279 fonts, out of 200000 for 1000 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 42i,12n,26p,471b,1117s stack positions out of 1500i,500n,1500p,30000b,5000s pdf-LaTeX (enlarged font_mem_size): Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 5304 strings out of 50556 80416 string characters out of 443148 127241 words of memory out of 263001 8168 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+15000 228442 words of font info for 427 fonts, out of 600000 for 2000 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 42i,12n,26p,471b,1033s stack positions out of 1500i,500n,1500p,50000b,5000s Is it normal for pdfLaTeX to need 140+ more fonts (counting size, style etc.) than with LaTeX for .dvi ? The same .sty .fd .tfm and files are used, so what accounts for the difference? Of course the really disturbing number is the amount of memory required. To get this document working ( with pdftex.14f ) the font_mem_size parameter had to be increased from the default 200000 in texmf.cnf , and formats rebuilt. Suggestion: perhaps a default font_mem_size.pdflatex needs to be set higher ? All the best, Ross Moore 7-Oct-2000 15:58:34-GMT,2128;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08266 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:58:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15318 for pdftex-list; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 10:28:04 -0400 Received: from postfix1.free.fr (postfix@postfix1.free.fr [212.27.32.21]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15315 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 10:28:01 -0400 Received: from ujf-grenoble.fr (grenoble-44-108.dial.proxad.net [213.228.44.108]) by postfix1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27042811F; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 16:29:43 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <39DEDF50.47E1A618@ujf-grenoble.fr> Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:31:12 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [fr] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: fr,en,es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Moore Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: excessive use of fonts ? References: <200010070118.MAA08331@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ross Moore a écrit : > > Is it normal for pdfLaTeX to need 140+ more fonts (counting size, style etc.) > than with LaTeX for .dvi ? > The same .sty .fd .tfm and files are used, > so what accounts for the difference? This could be if you include many graphic files with fonts in it, pdftex will make a new font for each included one.This may sound bizarre to people who use one font set in one encoding all over their documents, but this is very safe for more general cases. this could also have to do with virtual fonts, because pdftex has to decompose them itself although tex only sees the TFMs for the VFs (i don't know what number pdftex actually reports). > the font_mem_size parameter had to be increased from the default 200000 > in texmf.cnf , and formats rebuilt. > > Suggestion: > perhaps a default font_mem_size.pdflatex needs to be set higher ? I have 500 000. I don't think you need to rebuild the format. Th. 7-Oct-2000 19:17:43-GMT,1989;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11702 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 13:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15546 for pdftex-list; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:30:59 -0400 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15543 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:30:56 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.147.243]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05 Jun 27 2000 10:40:22) with SMTP id G22OUI01.C8A; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:32:42 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001007191436.007a5e00@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 19:14:36 +0200 To: Bernhard Kleine From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Start Reader without table of contents Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" In-Reply-To: <01C02EE3.0E4D8870@endoserv.medizin.uni-ulm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 03:43 PM 10/5/00 +0200, Bernhard Kleine wrote: >Would you be so kind and point to the place where these options and the use of pdfspecials are **well** documented. I have tried to read the manual and these things are IMHO not so clearly documented. Do you mean \pdfliteral? In that case you should read the 600+ page pdf reference manual that you can fetch from the adobe site. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Oct-2000 2:15:34-GMT,3214;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19053 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:15:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA15785 for pdftex-list; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 21:19:09 -0400 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (root@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15782 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 21:19:05 -0400 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09590; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:20:48 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA21449; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:20:45 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200010080120.MAA21449@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: excessive use of fonts ? In-Reply-To: <39DEDF50.47E1A618@ujf-grenoble.fr> from Thierry Bouche at "Oct 7, 2000 10:31:12 am" To: Thierry Bouche Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:20:45 +1100 (EST) CC: Ross Moore , pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Ross Moore a écrit : > > > > Is it normal for pdfLaTeX to need 140+ more fonts (counting size, style etc.) > > than with LaTeX for .dvi ? > > The same .sty .fd .tfm and files are used, > > so what accounts for the difference? > > This could be if you include many graphic files with fonts in it, pdftex > will make a new font for each included one.This may sound bizarre to > people who use one font set in one encoding all over their documents, > but this is very safe for more general cases. Sure; this makes sense as the final format is homogeneously PDF, so the viewer isn't going to know that some fonts have come from TeX and others from elsewhere. That document has only 2 images, with very few included fonts. However one is a logo that is used identically on every page, so 30+ times. Could each re-use be causing more font information to be read ? > this could also have to do with virtual fonts, because pdftex has to > decompose them itself although tex only sees the TFMs for the VFs (i > don't know what number pdftex actually reports). That is a more likely explanation. The fonts are indeed VFs, encoded completely for T1 and its companion. This means that reduced sizes are needed, especially with composite characters (e.g. for the 0 in /perthousand). > > > the font_mem_size parameter had to be increased from the default 200000 > > in texmf.cnf , and formats rebuilt. > > > > Suggestion: > > perhaps a default font_mem_size.pdflatex needs to be set higher ? > > I have 500 000. I don't think you need to rebuild the format. Do you mean that this is read and configured "on-the-fly" from the texmf.cnf ? I thought most memory params required the rebuild after changing. Is it only main_memory that needs this now ? Any others ? Thanks for your response, Ross Moore > Th. > 8-Oct-2000 17:56:27-GMT,1840;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04320 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:56:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA16833 for pdftex-list; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:36:11 -0400 Received: from gate2-a.volkswagen.de (gate2-a.volkswagen.de [193.23.96.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16830 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:36:09 -0400 Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by gate2-a.volkswagen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id SAA07903 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:37:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Volkswagen by relay1.volkswagen.de, id smtpdAAABEegF_; Sun Oct 8 18:37:51 2000 Received: by devwagwodx0008.wob.vw.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:37:49 +0200 Message-ID: <478C61465902D411A05A0008C791F484EF6B03@devwagwodx0007.wob.vw.de> From: "Bodsch, Norbert" To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Conversion eps to pdf Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:37:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I assume the following question has been asked before, but I didn't find an answer. I use the grapicx package to include eps graphics in LaTeX files (translation with ordinary latex to dvi, then with dvips to ps). Fine results! To produce a pdf file with the same quality by pdflatex I need to convert my eps graphics to pdf graphics. Ghostscript's (v.6.01) pdfwrite device works fine (correct bounding box), but the embedded text becomes poor. Does anyone have an idea how to produce a pdf file with the same good quality? Regards, Norbert 8-Oct-2000 20:26:57-GMT,1740;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07010 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:26:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16967 for pdftex-list; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:38:18 -0400 Received: from dslak11.datacom.co.nz (dslak11.datacom.co.nz [202.27.76.113]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA16964 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:38:14 -0400 Received: from dslak12.dslak.co.nz (192.203.216.23) by dslak11.datacom.co.nz Monday, October 09, 2000 08:38:27 Message-ID: Received: by dslak12.dslak.co.nz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <43AVKN7S>; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:39:01 +1300 Message-ID: <55AC387C05CAD311946200508BA593E0A911EA@dslwg2.dslwg.co.nz> From: "Andrea Best (DSLWN)" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:40:10 +1300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I wrote in with the original question about embedded fonts. Since then I have tried a number of diferent suggestions with no luck. I have 'embedded' the font using the pdftex.map file however, when I open the pdf file using adobe the document info shows Original Font Type Encoding Used Font Type NimbusSanL-Bold Type1 Built-in Embedded Type1 NimbusSanL-Regu Type1 Built-in Embedded Type1 (Note I have used NimbusSan as I could not embed the actual helvetica font.) When the file was ran through pdf inspector one of the errors raised was that the font was not embedded. Is this an issue with pdflatex or adobe? 8-Oct-2000 22:01:47-GMT,2207;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08855 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:01:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17018 for pdftex-list; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:01:34 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17015 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:01:33 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13iNb6-0006pk-00; Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:03:04 +0100 Received: from max17.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.17] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13iNb6-0004ae-00; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:03:05 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14816.54182.391802.699019@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:05:58 +0100 (BST) To: Norbert.Bodsch@volkswagen.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Conversion eps to pdf In-Reply-To: <478C61465902D411A05A0008C791F484EF6B03@devwagwodx0007.wob.vw.de> References: <478C61465902D411A05A0008C791F484EF6B03@devwagwodx0007.wob.vw.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Bodsch, Norbert writes: > I use the grapicx package to include eps graphics in LaTeX files > (translation with ordinary latex to dvi, then with dvips to ps). Fine > results! To produce a pdf file with the same quality by pdflatex I need to > convert my eps graphics to pdf graphics. Ghostscript's (v.6.01) pdfwrite > device works fine (correct bounding box), but the embedded text becomes > poor. perhaps the original graphics had bitmap fonts embedded? otherwise, I'd expect no real problem. If your EPS files were made by TeX itself, and set in Computer Modern, remake them using Type1 fonts. sebastian 8-Oct-2000 22:44:51-GMT,1365;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09632 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:44:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17080 for pdftex-list; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:57:52 -0400 Received: from www10.gmx.net (www.gmx.net [194.221.183.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17077 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:57:49 -0400 From: mgis@gmx.de Received: (qmail 12684 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2000 21:59:39 -0000 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:59:39 +0200 (MEST) To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Looking for nice&easy examples for article NonMember X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001578616@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [62.104.214.72] Message-ID: <12670.971042379@www10.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hai pdftexis, i would like to use pdftex for my article. Could you send me your preambles to produce nice output. The examples i saw on tug.org were to complicated for me ( newbe ). Thanxs in advance cu migis p.s. I am using tetex under suse 7.0. -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net 8-Oct-2000 23:13:06-GMT,2061;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10150 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:13:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17099 for pdftex-list; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:25:45 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17096 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:25:44 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16936; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:27:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: Sebastian Rahtz cc: Norbert.Bodsch@volkswagen.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Conversion eps to pdf In-Reply-To: <14816.54182.391802.699019@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk A known issue with gs 6.0.1 (I have a response from L. Peter Deutsch on this) is that if kshow is used to "show" test, that text is rendered with Type 3 fonts, *even if the font selected for that text is a Type 1 font*. I suspect the same behavior with cshow. Tom On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Bodsch, Norbert writes: > > I use the grapicx package to include eps graphics in LaTeX files > > (translation with ordinary latex to dvi, then with dvips to ps). Fine > > results! To produce a pdf file with the same quality by pdflatex I need to > > convert my eps graphics to pdf graphics. Ghostscript's (v.6.01) pdfwrite > > device works fine (correct bounding box), but the embedded text becomes > > poor. > > perhaps the original graphics had bitmap fonts embedded? otherwise, > I'd expect no real problem. If your EPS files were made by TeX itself, > and set in Computer Modern, remake them using Type1 fonts. > > sebastian > 8-Oct-2000 23:36:29-GMT,2582;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10587 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:36:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17113 for pdftex-list; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:49:26 -0400 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17110 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:49:24 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.148.18]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G24VHD02.P66; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:51:13 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001009000639.008ccc00@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 00:06:39 +0200 To: Ross Moore From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: excessive use of fonts ? Cc: Thierry Bouche , Ross Moore , pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200010080120.MAA21449@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> References: <39DEDF50.47E1A618@ujf-grenoble.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:20 PM 10/8/00 +1100, Ross Moore wrote: >That document has only 2 images, with very few included fonts. >However one is a logo that is used identically on every page, so 30+ times. > >Could each re-use be causing more font information to be read ? Not if you really reause it using forms. >Do you mean that this is read and configured "on-the-fly" from the texmf.cnf ? >I thought most memory params required the rebuild after changing. >Is it only main_memory that needs this now ? Any others ? This is rather undocumented. I suggest that you recompile after each change. The only settinsg that are officially runtime configurable are extra mem top/bot. [Mpost has the same characteristics, which as side effect that mem changes go unnoticed but incompatible values *do* affect the metapost specials in unexpected ways, which has already costs me many hours of hacking around and tracing]. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Oct-2000 9:45:39-GMT,1742;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA21428 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 03:45:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA17805 for pdftex-list; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 04:32:53 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA17802 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 04:32:50 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13iYOQ-0001CW-00; Mon, 09 Oct 2000 09:34:42 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13iYOR-0000xU-00; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 09:34:43 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14817.33615.822351.196007@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 09:35:27 +0100 To: mgis@gmx.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Looking for nice&easy examples for article NonMember In-Reply-To: <12670.971042379@www10.gmx.net> References: <12670.971042379@www10.gmx.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk mgis@gmx.de writes: > i would like to use pdftex for my article. Could you send me your > preambles to produce nice output. > The examples i saw on tug.org were to complicated for me ( newbe ). > Thanxs in advance its easy. pdfTeX is TeX. so you just look at any book or online resource about TeX, or which there are *many*.... Sebastian 9-Oct-2000 9:48:53-GMT,3203;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA21493 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 03:48:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA17842 for pdftex-list; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 04:51:53 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA17839 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 04:51:51 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13iYm4-0001Wb-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:59:08 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA01026 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:51:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13iYe1-004wwRC; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:50:49 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:50:49 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Looking for nice&easy examples for article NonMember Message-ID: <20001009105049.H30319@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <12670.971042379@www10.gmx.net> <14817.33615.822351.196007@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nqkreNcslJAfgyzk" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14817.33615.822351.196007@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk>; from sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 09:35:27AM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --nqkreNcslJAfgyzk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2000-10-09 09:35:27 +0100, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > mgis@gmx.de writes: > > i would like to use pdftex for my article. Could you send me your > > preambles to produce nice output. >=20 > its easy. pdfTeX is TeX. so you just look at any book or online > resource about TeX, or which there are *many*.... And if you really need a book about _pdfTeX_ there is a book by Sebastian et.al. which contains some information about it. :-) Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --nqkreNcslJAfgyzk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOeGG6PhOymx+mbrBAQHcwQf/T8YMQQ0dve8w0c1SKNjotM+a2c0J4u8z CLnjt9/nE9pDjjXy9Sf2pgMSPNThN+9g0FaE9R5oNeMv3THXnitVP3swpAhjdh8Q pNnfq6h9eUKS7XgWfX9yD0T9HOqyzwsdRzTFeMMeFDvadvYLKZFTtpW9XNLVbvOH 7sEfRGCdDX2i5L8b3Jj225PWqy+DlWtB0xspLl7MsHq3y4ktWllnfmgHsFb/fcEh q6CdZVT/Ka0alEfRPnPPc6WDrfNYqdk1kKDM79SBkaCiDpcsR5YYoJ6jX3iC+QI/ Gz3Snqn01pl3lcIuhwvTOB8uGr5O9AeXrhGpD+ndgDLa/qAj45hOxA== =Xzgn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nqkreNcslJAfgyzk-- 9-Oct-2000 10:17:13-GMT,2712;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21999 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 04:17:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA17863 for pdftex-list; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:15:25 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA17860 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:15:23 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13iZ8u-0001k1-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:22:44 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA01740 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:16:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13iZ1r-004wwRC; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:15:27 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:15:27 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: How to test for version of pdftex.def? Message-ID: <20001009111527.L30319@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JI+G0+mN8WmwPnOn" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --JI+G0+mN8WmwPnOn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, how can a LaTeX document test the version of pdftex.def installed? Obviously the date parameter of \usepackage works only for the package, not for the driver. Best regards Martin --=20 Martin Schr=F6der, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Stra=DFe 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --JI+G0+mN8WmwPnOn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in iQEVAwUBOeGMr/hOymx+mbrBAQEYmwgAgKMbl+wcj59z0HD3ZYij5D9gGOM/F7OC ChOhLINinfDR3wNRk+HrNeB5szTf1t7iI2Gr4gUwlH0nKTK/ZfKpviGcgMOLs5KR URQ1L58t1HEbbftRK5ABeRmKiP28YKpaEMWW/u+gy24rheIylHjghnHbVTRSmjB8 wPjfL7+ILXFi9rUk8sIw4ZtC1IfIkFdxdtb6GPcglCnGEFao8+6v5t5uujLas0nr gc034s5gfDvwfw30ANt1jh0I2n7tCqE7M/bm08zMNECfnuWrBJhTQjCAe0h/tjHS tyo2HEE/Jihpc+23nOBKtsQeUKytQDp8GD1y1jxuQlVjt6B1CLjAZA== =5hZ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JI+G0+mN8WmwPnOn-- 9-Oct-2000 10:36:22-GMT,2060;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22269 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 04:36:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA17882 for pdftex-list; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:37:34 -0400 Received: from www10.gmx.net (www.gmx.net [194.221.183.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA17879 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:37:32 -0400 From: mgis@gmx.de Received: (qmail 11663 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2000 09:38:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:38:55 +0200 (MEST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Looking for nice&easy examples for article NonMember References: Message-ID: <11611.971084335@www10.gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001578616@gmx.net X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Authenticated-IP: [62.104.214.68] X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hai, you wrote > You say, "preambles". Does that mean that you're a LaTeX user? > > If so, then your present documents may be fine for pdflatex as they > are. Try it out -- just say, "pdflatex", instead of "latex". > > -- > --Ed Cashin PGP public key: > ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ > Yes, I can use just pdflatex instead of latex, but I get bad results because of the fonts and so on. Could you not just send me some hints, like what packages to use, to create nice output. I thought the easiest way would be to send just some examples ( wiht comments would be perfect ;O)). I found one example in the net. Using font 850 or so and using cm and ae fonts, but having some examples combining the different possibilities (hyperref, graphixs, and what else there might be) would be very practible. Thank you for you help Regards Migis -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net 9-Oct-2000 18:07:50-GMT,1817;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02576 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:07:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18386 for pdftex-list; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:26:03 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA18383 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:26:01 -0400 Received: from remote142-96.home.uni-freiburg.de (Kabuffi.home.uni-freiburg.de) [132.230.142.96] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13igiP-0000ZM-00; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:27:54 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001009160617.00799520@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:06:17 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , PDF-TeX mailing list From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: How to test for version of pdftex.def? In-Reply-To: <20001009111527.L30319@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id NAA18384 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:15 09.10.00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >Hi, >how can a LaTeX document test the version of pdftex.def >installed? Obviously the date parameter of \usepackage works only >for the package, not for the driver. Similar to \@ifpackagelater: \@ifl@ter{def}{pdftex}{2000/10/09}{}{} Yours sincerely Heiko PS: >Attachment Converted: ... Please no attachments. 9-Oct-2000 22:20:16-GMT,1472;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09682 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:20:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA18658 for pdftex-list; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:45:33 -0400 Received: from www6.gmx.net (www.gmx.net [194.221.183.46]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18655 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:45:32 -0400 From: mgis@gmx.de Received: (qmail 19579 invoked by uid 0); 9 Oct 2000 21:46:56 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:46:56 +0200 (MEST) To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Thanks for your help X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001578616@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [62.104.214.72] Message-ID: <19566.971128016@www6.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello pdftexers, thanks for the preamble examples (and the tex file). I did not know there was an pdftex faq, all I saw was the pdftex manual, which was for me not a big help creating pdf output from latex ( but I guess that is not the intension of the manual). Anyway with the given examples and the hint to the pfdlatex faq I will sure get enough information. Thanks cu Regards migis -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net 9-Oct-2000 22:20:18-GMT,3554;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09686 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:20:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA18648 for pdftex-list; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:42:02 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18645 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:42:00 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA28883; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:43:47 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:43:47 +0200 Message-Id: <200010092143.XAA28883@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Andrea Best (DSLWN)" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: Embedded `standard' fonts in PDF files In-Reply-To: References: <55AC387C05CAD311946200508BA593E0A911EA@dslwg2.dslwg.co.nz> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Andrea" == Andrea Best (DSLWN) writes: > I wrote in with the original question about embedded fonts. > Since then I have tried a number of diferent suggestions with no > luck. > I have 'embedded' the font using the pdftex.map file however, > when I open the pdf file using adobe the document info shows > Original Font Type Encoding Used Font Type NimbusSanL-Bold Type1 > Built-in Embedded Type1 NimbusSanL-Regu Type1 Built-in Embedded > Type1 > (Note I have used NimbusSan as I could not embed the actual > helvetica font.) > When the file was ran through pdf inspector one of the errors > raised was that the font was not embedded. Is this an issue > with pdflatex or adobe? Just create a small file with compression turned off. \pdfcompresslevel=0 \begin{document} hello \end{document} If the font is embedded there should be sth. like that in your pdf file (I used cmr10 here): stream %!PS-AdobeFont-1.1: CMR10 1.00B %%CreationDate: 1992 Feb 19 19:54:52 % Copyright (C) 1997 American Mathematical Society. All Rights Reserved. 11 dict begin /FontInfo 7 dict dup begin /version (1.00B) readonly def /Notice (Copyright (C) 1997 American Mathematical Society. All Rights Reserved) readonly def /FullName (CMR10) readonly def /FamilyName (Computer Modern) readonly def /Weight (Medium) readonly def /ItalicAngle 0 def /isFixedPitch false def end readonly def /FontName /IGJUJL+CMR10 def Look for lines beginning with /FullName, /FamilyName and /FontName The actual font is then between "currentfile eexec" and "cleartomark" in binary format. If this is too confusing just send me the file. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Oct-2000 0:09:05-GMT,1561;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12050 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:09:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA18761 for pdftex-list; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:21:21 -0400 Received: from eiismtp.electricimg.com (electricimg.com [199.35.234.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18758 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:20:31 -0400 Received: from csee.usf.edu (ip81.electricimg.com [199.35.234.81] (may be forged)) by eiismtp.electricimg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02490 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:31:34 -0700 Message-ID: <39E252FC.BB50F5F5@csee.usf.edu> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:21:32 -0700 From: Himanshu Gohel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Re: Thanks for your help References: <19566.971128016@www6.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk mgis@gmx.de wrote: > thanks for the preamble examples (and the tex file). I did not know there > was an pdftex faq, all I saw was the pdftex manual, which was for me not a A while ago we had a discussion on this - I still suggest that every person who joins our list should get a message that points to both the manual and FAQ. And perhaps set URL for the new sample files. Himanshu Gohel, gohel@csee.usf.edu 10-Oct-2000 4:01:58-GMT,1497;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16364 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:01:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA18924 for pdftex-list; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:14:53 -0400 Received: from dslak11.datacom.co.nz (dslak11.datacom.co.nz [202.27.76.113]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA18921 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:14:45 -0400 Received: from dslak12.dslak.co.nz (192.203.216.23) by dslak11.datacom.co.nz Tuesday, October 10, 2000 16:15:11 Message-ID: Received: by dslak12.dslak.co.nz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4R8DHT31>; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:15:33 +1300 Message-ID: <55AC387C05CAD311946200508BA593E0A911FA@dslwg2.dslwg.co.nz> From: "Andrea Best (DSLWN)" To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Merging two pdf files Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:16:30 +1300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am merging two pdf files. When I create the first pdf file the font used is the NimbusSansL which is embedded in the pdf document. However when I include this file in another pdf document the font changes to an embedded-Subset NimbusSansL-Regu-Exten. Does anyone know why the font would change to embedded subset and how can I stop this from happening?? Thanks 12-Oct-2000 14:21:09-GMT,8419;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03259 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:21:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23074 for pdftex-list; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:38:17 -0400 Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23071 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:38:12 -0400 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED6E2A74 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:40:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:40:14 +0200 Message-ID: <50B56D407D2DD31191DE00902771E9F44B15E7@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: progressive JPEG? Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:40:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C03451.F30997A2" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C03451.F30997A2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I have reported "funny errors" with JPEG inclusion to this list before. I would like to know the current status of the possibility to include so-called "progressive JPEG" images using pdfTeX. I'm using version .14d and I get the following error: Error: pdflatex (file foto4.jpg): unsupported type of compression (which abruptly stops the program). 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from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (root@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu [128.46.109.85]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23228 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:41:57 -0400 Received: from purdue.edu (hersh.nserl.purdue.edu [128.210.150.223]) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3moyman) with ESMTP id KAA16638 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:43:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <39E5DC57.BA5D7A45@purdue.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:44:23 -0500 From: Frederic Darboux Organization: NSERL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: progressive JPEG? References: <50B56D407D2DD31191DE00902771E9F44B15E7@ecntex.ecn.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello I am a suscriber to the Imagemagick diffusion list too. Some days ago, there was a discussion about these JPEG images and their file format_s_. Here is a piece of an email I received. Perhaps it is relevant to your question. "The JPEG standard actually only defines an encoding scheme for data streams and not a specific file format. JPEG encoding is used in many different file formats (TIFF v.6.0 and Macintosh PICT are two prominent examples), but the format used on the web is called JFIF..." Best regards. Frederic Darboux "Dok, D. van" wrote: > > Hi, > > I have reported "funny errors" with JPEG inclusion to this list before. I > would like to know the current status of the possibility to include > so-called "progressive JPEG" images using pdfTeX. > > I'm using version .14d and I get the following error: > > Error: pdflatex (file foto4.jpg): unsupported type of compression > > (which abruptly stops the program). Included is the image (it's small enough > for this list). > > <> > > Au revoir, > > Dennis > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: foto4.jpg > foto4.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 -- ....................................................... National Soil Erosion Research Laboratory 1196 SOIL Building Purdue University West Lafayette, Indiana, 47907-1196 USA Ph: +1 765 494-6645 Fax: +1 765 494-5948 Email: darboux@purdue.edu Web: 12-Oct-2000 18:25:12-GMT,2945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10459 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:25:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23458 for pdftex-list; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:49:39 -0400 Received: from toranaga.uni-paderborn.de (toranaga.uni-paderborn.de [131.234.208.131]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23455 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:49:37 -0400 Received: (from stern@localhost) by toranaga.uni-paderborn.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA21716 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:52:05 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:52:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Sternberg Message-Id: <200010121752.TAA21716@toranaga.uni-paderborn.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex user manual unreadable Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have problems reading the pdftex user manual with the acrobat reader. This is with either version acrobat-4.05 on Linux or acrobat-4.0 on osf1. After the first page, it gives an error box saying: There was an error processing a page. There was a problem reading this document (109). gs-6.0 gives the following: > gs docset/pdf/pdftex/pdftex-l.pdf Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0 (2000-02-03) Copyright (C) 2000 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. Processing pages 1 through 32. Page 1 >>showpage, press to continue<< Page 2 xref error! Error: /rangecheck in resolveR Operand stack: --dict:8/8(L)-- F33 11.955 --dict:8/8(L)-- --dict:8/8(L)-- --dict:1 .. Am I the only one having this problem? This occurs with either version of the manual under: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex-b.pdf http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex-a.pdf http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex-l.pdf http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex-s.pdf --> on the screen version, the error occurs after viewing page 21. I have verified the correct file size of these, lest there is CRNL trouble, e.g. Content-Length: 228113 vs. 228113 Oct 12 12:08 docset/pdf/pdftex/pdftex-l.pdf I am new to using pdftex, and I am quite excited about it. Praise to Thanh for the development. I plan to use it for my thesis, as it allows for much better output than via the PS path. I mananged the basics via information gleaned from the FAQ and Kopka/Daly's book, but so far the full doc to pdftex was barred. Regards, Michael -- Michael Sternberg | On assignment at: http://www.phys.upb.de/~stern/ | Argonne National Lab, Chemistry Division phone: (630) 252-7020 fax: -9555 | 9700 S Cass Ave, Argonne, IL 60439-4831 "Who disturrrbs me at this time?" << Zaphod Beeblebrox IV >> <*> 13-Oct-2000 0:21:20-GMT,3373;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20514 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:21:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA23762 for pdftex-list; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:43:02 -0400 Received: from box.home.de (dusdi5-212-144-204-004.arcor-ip.net [212.144.204.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23759 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:42:58 -0400 Received: (from jochen@localhost) by box.home.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA16500; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:44:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <14822.19658.638317.663915@box.home.de> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:44:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Jochen Kuepper To: pdfTeX list Subject: reference warning X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid User-Agent: XEmacs/vm 6.75 X-Face: -%Z4EZ6iY'4m:wiK:!v Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29655 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24307 for pdftex-list; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 02:42:58 -0400 Received: from mail.SerNet.DE (exim@mail.SerNet.DE [193.159.217.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24304 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 02:42:55 -0400 Received: from intern.SerNet.DE by mail.SerNet.DE with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) for pdftex@tug.org id 13jyaR-0001hf-00; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:44:59 +0200 Received: by intern.SerNet.DE id 13jyaR-0007Ex-00; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:44:59 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:44:59 +0200 From: Kevin Ivory Organization: Service Network GmbH X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex user manual unreadable References: <200010121752.TAA21716@toranaga.uni-paderborn.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Michael Sternberg wrote: > I have problems reading the pdftex user manual with the acrobat reader. > This is with either version acrobat-4.05 on Linux or acrobat-4.0 on osf1. > After the first page, it gives an error box saying: > ... > I have verified the correct file size of these, lest there is CRNL trouble, I have a very similar environment and everything works fine. You must have used text-mode instead of binary-mode when getting the file. The file size is not always helpful since many programs simply set file size and date after "successful" download. Kevin -- _ | Kevin Ivory | Tel: +49-551-37000041 |_ |\ | | Service Network GmbH | Fax: +49-551-3700009 ._|ER | \|ET | Bahnhofsallee 1b | mailto:Ivory@SerNet.de Service Network | 37081 Goettingen | http://www.SerNet.de/ 13-Oct-2000 9:51:37-GMT,2319;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA02002 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 03:51:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA24412 for pdftex-list; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 04:36:13 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24409 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 04:36:10 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.97]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G2D1BQ02.C9I; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:38:14 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001013091156.01937c40@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:11:56 +0200 To: Michael Sternberg From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: pdftex user manual unreadable Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200010121752.TAA21716@toranaga.uni-paderborn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 07:52 PM 10/12/00 +0200, Michael Sternberg wrote: >I have verified the correct file size of these, lest there is CRNL trouble, >e.g. > Content-Length: 228113 >vs. > 228113 Oct 12 12:08 docset/pdf/pdftex/pdftex-l.pdf > > >I am new to using pdftex, and I am quite excited about it. >Praise to Thanh for the development. I plan to use it for my thesis, >as it allows for much better output than via the PS path. I mananged >the basics via information gleaned from the FAQ and Kopka/Daly's book, >but so far the full doc to pdftex was barred. Can you try the files at: www.pragma-ade.com -> context -> pdftex support the originals are posted there. If you use a macro package that supports pdftex, you probably don't need low level pdf primitives. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Oct-2000 14:39:31-GMT,2461;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07909 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24803 for pdftex-list; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:12:35 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24800 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:12:31 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06669; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:14:38 -0400 (EDT) To: Kevin Ivory Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex user manual unreadable References: <200010121752.TAA21716@toranaga.uni-paderborn.de> From: Ed L Cashin Date: 13 Oct 2000 09:14:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: Kevin Ivory's message of "Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:44:59 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Kevin Ivory writes: > Michael Sternberg wrote: > > I have problems reading the pdftex user manual with the acrobat reader. > > This is with either version acrobat-4.05 on Linux or acrobat-4.0 on osf1. > > After the first page, it gives an error box saying: > > ... > > I have verified the correct file size of these, lest there is CRNL trouble, > > I have a very similar environment and everything works fine. > You must have used text-mode instead of binary-mode when getting > the file. The file size is not always helpful since many programs > simply set file size and date after "successful" download. Perhaps you aren't using the letter-size version. The letter-sized user manual linked to from ... http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ ... has been broken for months. AFAIK, this and the broken example.tex file are the two highest-profile files that new pdftex users encounter, and they have both been broken for a long time. I'd love to be wrong, but no one has told me otherwise. To the OP, the other sizes of the manual should work fine. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 13-Oct-2000 16:42:37-GMT,2215;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11785 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:42:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25118 for pdftex-list; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:08:58 -0400 Received: from toranaga.uni-paderborn.de (toranaga.uni-paderborn.de [131.234.208.131]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25115 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:08:56 -0400 Received: (from stern@localhost) by toranaga.uni-paderborn.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07324 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:11:27 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:11:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Sternberg Message-Id: <200010131511.RAA07324@toranaga.uni-paderborn.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex user manual unreadable Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >Can you try the files at: > www.pragma-ade.com -> context -> pdftex support >the originals are posted there. Indeed, these work; thank you! I have made a byte-by-byte comparison between pdftex-l.pdf on tug.org and pragma-ade.com (the letter-sized Jan 21 2000 versions of the manual) and found that they do have the same length, but differ in file date and in content by a block localised to about 4KB somewhere in the last third of the file (bytes 169111-173206). pdf/pdftex> cmp pdftex-l-pragma.pdf pdftex-l-tug.pdf pdftex-l-pragma.pdf pdftex-l-tug.pdf differ: char 169111, line 675 pdf/pdftex> cmp -l pdftex-l-pragma.pdf pdftex-l-tug.pdf | wc 4075 12225 61125 I conclude that nothing is wrong with the reader software here or my download abilities, but that the copies at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ appear to have a problem. I am happy with the manuals now but suggest the files on tug actually be VERIFIED. Regards, Michael -- Michael Sternberg | On assignment at: http://www.phys.upb.de/~stern/ | Argonne National Lab, Chemistry Division phone: (630) 252-7020 fax: -9555 | 9700 S Cass Ave, Argonne, IL 60439-4831 "Who disturrrbs me at this time?" << Zaphod Beeblebrox IV >> <*> 16-Oct-2000 17:37:20-GMT,1488;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01506 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:37:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02708 for pdftex-list; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:34:33 -0400 Received: from hood.tvd.be (hood.tvd.be [195.162.196.21]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02705 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:34:27 -0400 Received: from cyric (cable-195-162-214-222.upc.chello.be [195.162.214.222]) by hood.tvd.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/RELAY-1.1) with SMTP id SAA02963; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:36:45 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: From: "Roel Vandenhoeck" To: "pdftex" , "MiKTeX" Subject: pdf printing option Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:37:52 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all With the hyperref package you can set several pdf options. Is it also possible to set the print option to no printing allowed? Roel mailto:roel.vandenhoeck@advalvas.be 16-Oct-2000 23:16:31-GMT,1800;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11490 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03145 for pdftex-list; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:25:36 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03142 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:25:33 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13lIjF-0006rY-00; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:27:33 +0100 Received: from max71.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.71] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13lIjH-0007wz-00; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:27:35 +0100 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14827.30654.283526.420908@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:48:46 +0100 (BST) To: Roel.Vandenhoeck@advalvas.be Cc: pdftex@tug.org, miktex@dsts.dk Subject: Re: pdf printing option In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Roel Vandenhoeck writes: > With the hyperref package you can set several pdf options. Is it also > possible to set the print option to no printing allowed? In a word, "no". use Acrobat. Sebastian 18-Oct-2000 15:55:18-GMT,2130;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01978 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:55:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05993 for pdftex-list; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:13:01 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05990 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:12:59 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13lv1N-0005nI-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:20:49 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA03362 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:14:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13lutr-004wwRC; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:13:03 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:13:03 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? Message-ID: <20001018171303.A30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Subject says it all, I hope. :-) Background: I have to different tex setups (one texlive, one tetex beta); one setup complains about a missing pstr8a.pfb (the texlive setup), the other doesn't (although there is no pstr8a.pfb on both systems). I must say I'm a bit confused about all those map files and there interaction... :-{ Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 18-Oct-2000 18:05:10-GMT,1864;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06226 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:05:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06115 for pdftex-list; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:27:18 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06111 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:27:16 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20288; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:29:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA24632; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:29:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010181729.TAA24632@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: <20001018171303.A30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= at "Oct 18, 0 05:13:03 pm" To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:29:43 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Subject says it all, I hope. :-) > > Background: > I have to different tex setups (one texlive, one tetex beta); one > setup complains about a missing pstr8a.pfb (the texlive setup), > the other doesn't (although there is no pstr8a.pfb on both > systems). > > I must say I'm a bit confused about all those map files and there > interaction... :-{ probably a pk version was found on a system and not on the other? Can you post the log file? Thanh 19-Oct-2000 9:28:24-GMT,3240;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27345 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 03:28:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07090 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 04:23:37 -0400 Received: from gwdu42.gwdg.de (root@gwdu42.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07087 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 04:23:35 -0400 Received: from gwdu20.gwdg.de ([134.76.98.2] ident=dweiss1) by gwdu42.gwdg.de with smtp (Exim 3.14 #18) id 13mB1J-0008GT-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:25:49 +0200 Received: from localhost by gwdu20.gwdg.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/11Feb98-0154PM) id AA14898; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:25:47 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:25:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Daniel Weiss To: pdfTeX Subject: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, having upgraded from pdftex 0.14e to pdftex 0.14f (part of Miktex 2 beta 6), pdflatex suddenly doesn't find New Century Schoolbook font files anymore. These warnings come at the end of the log: Warning: PDFLATEX (file pncbi8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Warning: PDFLATEX (file pncb8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Warning: PDFLATEX (file pncri8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Warning: PDFLATEX (file pncr8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Output written on thesis.pdf (128 pages, 7208607 bytes). I searched the drive and cannot find those files (pnc*a.pfb); however, they are not present in the old distribution (miktex 1.2e) either, and the file used to compile without font warnings using that distribution! How did pdflatex manage to compile the output back then? There's another warning earlier in the log: Warning: PDFLATEX (file csfontd.mapfile): cannot open font map file So perhaps pdflatex needs to use other .pfb files to substitute the pnc*a.pfb? I am aware that this is not a pdflatex problem, but rather a problem of the latex distribution, but perhaps somebody knows anyway... Thanks for any help, Daniel Daniel Weiss tel: +49 551 399431 Institute for X-Ray Physics (IRP) fax: +49 551 399430 University Georgia Augusta at Goettingen email: Daniel.Weiss@ Geiststrasse 11, 37073 Goettingen, Germany phys.uni-goettingen.de PGP public key: http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x3D3E57B9&fingerprint=on (fingerprint: F0 4C B3 27 0E 36 08 C0 54 A7 73 DD ED 52 B0 9B) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBOe6wCvSzBDo9Ple5AQH5igP/SpqUwmjwQx3AivZSQzFf+V8+Hv6O4gm2 XavcryrXq5+yGI7HPcvvYlW8FSozJZZxj4FsQf+myr9TcDS7PY9jL3PwUacoyxxx kqK0YP4SoZUnVv5R+bU+RvR84j2B9ZBj1EsFJNVVKVrOVWLZeV4yndy33ekIDBSK peMTTL9qUTM= =BRal -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 19-Oct-2000 10:21:53-GMT,10179;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA28223 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 04:21:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA07139 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 05:37:01 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07136 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 05:36:59 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13mCFq-0005TB-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:44:54 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA13743 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:38:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13mC98-004wwRC; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:37:58 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:37:58 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? Message-ID: <20001019113758.I30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <20001018171303.A30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200010181729.TAA24632@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010181729.TAA24632@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 07:29:43PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2000-10-18 19:29:43 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > post the log file? Logs are attached. I'm including a page of a pdf-file that uses Stone-Sans which is not embedded in it. :-{ The working tex setup is the latest beta from teTeX; the texlive setup is recommended with all fonts. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: Log from TeXlive Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="stone.log" This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2C 7.3.2x) (format=pdflatex 2000.10.19) 19 OCT 2000 11:32 **stone.tex (./stone.tex{/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1999/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, french, german, ngerman, du mylang, nohyphenation, loaded. (/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/09/10 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo File: size10.clo 1999/09/10 v1.4a Standard LaTeX file (size option) ) \c@part=\count79 \c@section=\count80 \c@subsection=\count81 \c@subsubsection=\count82 \c@paragraph=\count83 \c@subparagraph=\count84 \c@figure=\count85 \c@table=\count86 \abovecaptionskip=\skip41 \belowcaptionskip=\skip42 \bibindent=\dimen102 ) (/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty Package: graphicx 1999/02/16 v1.0f Enhanced LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR) (/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty Package: keyval 1999/03/16 v1.13 key=value parser (DPC) \KV@toks@=\toks14 ) (/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty Package: graphics 1999/02/16 v1.0l Standard LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR) (/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty Package: trig 1999/03/16 v1.09 sin cos tan (DPC) ) (/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/tex/latex/texlive/graphics.cfg) Package graphics Info: Driver file: pdftex.def on input line 80. (/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def File: pdftex.def 2000/05/31 v0.02v graphics/color for pdftex \Gread@gobject=\count87 )) \Gin@req@height=\dimen103 \Gin@req@width=\dimen104 ) (./stone.aux) \openout1 = `stone.aux'. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for T1/cmr/m/n on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for U/cmr/m/n on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. (/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing \protectiondepth=\count88 \scratchcounter=\count89 \scratchdimen=\dimen105 \scratchskip=\skip43 \scratchmuskip=\muskip10 \scratchbox=\box26 \scratchread=\read1 \scratchwrite=\write3 \nextbox=\box27 \nextdepth=\dimen106 \everyline=\toks15 \!!counta=\count90 \!!countb=\count91 \recursecounter=\count92 ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF \nofMPsegments=\count93 \nofMParguments=\count94 ) File: stone-inc.pdf Graphic file (type pdf) [1 <./stone-inc.pdf{/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map}{/proj ects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/pdftex/config/lw35.map}{/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/pd ftex/config/rawfonts.map}{/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/dvips/cspsfonts/csfontd. mapfile}>] (./stone.aux) ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 766 strings out of 50503 9298 string characters out of 440533 53466 words of memory out of 1500001 3790 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+15000 4297 words of font info for 15 fonts, out of 210000 for 1000 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 25i,4n,19p,200b,151s stack positions out of 3000i,500n,3000p,200000b,5000s {/projects/tmp/tex-19-1/texmf/dvips/base/8r.enc} Warning: pdftex (file pstr8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Output written on stone.pdf (1 page, 77072 bytes). --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: Log from teTeX Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="stone.log" This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2C 7.3.1) (format=pdflatex 2000.10.18) 19 OCT 2000 11:09 **stone.tex (stone.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <2000/06/01> (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2000/05/19 v1.4b Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo File: size10.clo 2000/05/19 v1.4b Standard LaTeX file (size option) ) \c@part=\count79 \c@section=\count80 \c@subsection=\count81 \c@subsubsection=\count82 \c@paragraph=\count83 \c@subparagraph=\count84 \c@figure=\count85 \c@table=\count86 \abovecaptionskip=\skip41 \belowcaptionskip=\skip42 \bibindent=\dimen102 ) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty Package: graphicx 1999/02/16 v1.0f Enhanced LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty Package: keyval 1999/03/16 v1.13 key=value parser (DPC) \KV@toks@=\toks14 ) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty Package: graphics 1999/02/16 v1.0l Standard LaTeX Graphics (DPC,SPQR) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty Package: trig 1999/03/16 v1.09 sin cos tan (DPC) ) (/home/ms/texmf/tex/latex/cfg/graphics.cfg) Package graphics Info: Driver file: pdftex.def on input line 80. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def File: pdftex.def 2000/09/14 v0.03d graphics/color for pdftex \Gread@gobject=\count87 )) \Gin@req@height=\dimen103 \Gin@req@width=\dimen104 ) No file stone.aux. \openout1 = `stone.aux'. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for T1/cmr/m/n on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for U/cmr/m/n on input line 4. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 4. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing \protectiondepth=\count88 \scratchcounter=\count89 \scratchdimen=\dimen105 \scratchskip=\skip43 \scratchmuskip=\muskip10 \scratchbox=\box26 \scratchread=\read1 \scratchwrite=\write3 \nextbox=\box27 \nextdepth=\dimen106 \everyline=\toks15 \!!counta=\count90 \!!countb=\count91 \recursecounter=\count92 ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF \nofMPsegments=\count93 \nofMParguments=\count94 ) File: stone-inc.pdf Graphic file (type pdf) [1 <./stone-inc.pdf{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map}>] (ston e.aux) ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 759 strings out of 10593 8750 string characters out of 68043 53321 words of memory out of 263001 3746 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+0 1219 words of font info for 6 fonts, out of 400000 for 1000 22 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 25i,4n,19p,200b,151s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,50000b,4000s Output written on stone.pdf (1 page, 87141 bytes). --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- 19-Oct-2000 13:55:44-GMT,2766;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02140 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:55:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07383 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:16:41 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07380 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:16:35 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28595; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:16:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00162; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:16:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010191316.PAA00162@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: <20001019113758.I30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= at "Oct 19, 0 11:37:58 am" To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:16:55 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Logs are attached. > I'm including a page of a pdf-file that uses Stone-Sans which is > not embedded in it. :-{ > The working tex setup is the latest beta from teTeX; the texlive > setup is recommended with all fonts. Aha, the info that the missing font is from a pdf included figure is important. It looks like the font is specified in the map files of one setup but not in the other one. When a pdf figure is being included, pdftex tries to replace the fonts embeded in the pdf by its resources, in order to avoid duplicate of font files. If the PS name of a font embeded in a pdf figure is found in map files, then pdftex supposes that you have the font file on your disk. Thus the font will *not* be copied at the time the pdf-figure is being included, but will be embeded at the end. This way, the font that appears several times in different pdf figures can share a single font file. If the PS name is not found in the map files, the whole font will be copied at the time the pdf figure is being included. In your case, you can simply comment out the line for Stone-Sans in your map file to fix it (and AdobeMM will be used to render the font). Or you can even specify another font to substitute Stone-Sans, eg pstr8r Stone-Sans Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02477 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:10:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07418 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:36:42 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07415 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:36:41 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13mFzp-0007tZ-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:44:37 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA19365 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:38:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13mFt9-004wwRC; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:37:43 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:37:43 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? Message-ID: <20001019153743.U30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <20001019113758.I30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200010191316.PAA00162@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010191316.PAA00162@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 03:16:55PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-19 15:16:55 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > It looks like the font is specified in the map files of one setup but not > in the other one. When a pdf figure is being included, pdftex tries to > replace the fonts embeded in the pdf by its resources, in order to avoid > duplicate of font files. If the PS name of a font embeded in a pdf figure > is found in map files, then pdftex supposes that you have the font file on > your disk. Thus the font will *not* be copied at the time the pdf-figure is > being included, but will be embeded at the end. This way, the font that > appears several times in different pdf figures can share a single font > file. If the PS name is not found in the map files, the whole font will be > copied at the time the pdf figure is being included. Aha. TeXlive has these lines pstr8r StoneSerif "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc in texmf/dvips/psnfss/pst.map, texmf/dvips/config/psfonts.map and texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map; teTeX doesn't. > In your case, you can simply comment out the line for Stone-Sans in your > map file to fix it (and AdobeMM will be used to render the font). Or you > can even specify another font to substitute Stone-Sans, eg Which AdobeMM will be used by pdftex? Gruß Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 19-Oct-2000 14:35:02-GMT,2314;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03074 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:35:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07453 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:59:00 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07448 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:58:58 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13mGLO-00086L-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:06:54 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id QAA19778 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:01:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13mGFS-004wwRC; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:00:46 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:00:46 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? Message-ID: <20001019160046.A30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <20001019113758.I30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200010191316.PAA00162@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010191316.PAA00162@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 03:16:55PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-19 15:16:55 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > In your case, you can simply comment out the line for Stone-Sans in your > map file to fix it (and AdobeMM will be used to render the font). Or you Can I disable this automatic substitution? pdfTeX shall use the fonts it finds or complain bitterly and fail. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 19-Oct-2000 15:24:08-GMT,1379;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04432 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:24:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07487 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:37:41 -0400 Received: from relay.flashnet.it (root@ems.flashnet.it [194.247.160.44]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07484 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:37:39 -0400 Received: from oemcomputer (ip113.pool-250.cyb.it [195.191.1.113]) by relay.flashnet.it (EMS-RELAY/8.10.0) with SMTP id e9JEe8626922; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:40:08 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20001019103338.00abbd80@mbox2.flashnet.it> X-Sender: fn035144@mbox2.flashnet.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:33:38 +0200 To: otv@dst.at, pdftex@tug.org From: chiari mario Subject: Re: Earn $50,000 in 90 Days!! In-Reply-To: <200010181749.NAA06131@tug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, all, may we bar such kind of messages from the pdftex list? Thanks Regards mario At 13.49 18/10/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Dear Friend, > >You can earn $50,000 or more in next the 90 days sending E-mail. 19-Oct-2000 16:12:03-GMT,2476;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05724 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:12:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07568 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:33:48 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07565 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:33:46 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13mHp8-0000Xx-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:41:42 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA21551 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:35:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13mHhy-004wwRC; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:34:18 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:34:18 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? Message-ID: <20001019173418.C30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <20001019113758.I30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200010191316.PAA00162@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010191316.PAA00162@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 03:16:55PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-19 15:16:55 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > Aha, the info that the missing font is from a pdf included figure is > important. Further exploration reveals that the font is not missing but is a Type1C CFF font (see technote #5176). Is this a known problem? Puzzling facts about this: Two different Acrobat Reader installations (both the same Reader Linux/x86 4.05) behave differently with this font: One can use it, the other can't. Our RIP (Jaws OEM) can use it. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 19-Oct-2000 16:27:16-GMT,1787;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06110 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:27:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07605 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:52:09 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07602 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:52:07 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26216; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:54:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11959; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:54:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010191554.RAA11959@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: <20001019160046.A30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= at "Oct 19, 0 04:00:46 pm" To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:54:38 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > In your case, you can simply comment out the line for Stone-Sans in your > > map file to fix it (and AdobeMM will be used to render the font). Or you > > Can I disable this automatic substitution? pdfTeX shall use the > fonts it finds or complain bitterly and fail. unfortunately no. You must have the font, or comment out lines for the missing fonts from your map file. Thanh 19-Oct-2000 16:30:04-GMT,2208;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06204 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:30:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07598 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:50:37 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07595 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:50:34 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25518 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:51:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11719 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:51:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010191551.RAA11719@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:51:45 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Aha. TeXlive has these lines > > pstr8r StoneSerif "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc pstri8r StoneSerif-Italic "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc pstro8r StoneSerif " .167 SlantFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc > in texmf/dvips/psnfss/pst.map, texmf/dvips/config/psfonts.map and > texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map; teTeX doesn't. > > > In your case, you can simply comment out the line for Stone-Sans in your > > map file to fix it (and AdobeMM will be used to render the font). Or you > > can even specify another font to substitute Stone-Sans, eg > > Which AdobeMM will be used by pdftex? it's not related to pdftex at all. When the font file is missing, the brower does its best to render the font, using the font metrics and description. In case of Acrobat Reader, it has some builtin MM fonts for this purpose. gv/xpdf would fail. Regards, Thanh 19-Oct-2000 16:46:47-GMT,2307;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06654 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:46:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15812; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:35:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:30:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15428; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:30:31 -0500 Received: from mail1.lig.bellsouth.net (mail1.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.55]) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15421 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:30:29 -0500 From: scla@earthlink.net Received: from 216.78.180.15 (adsl-78-180-15.lft.bellsouth.net [216.78.180.15]) by mail1.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id MAA09663 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200010191634.MAA09663@mail1.lig.bellsouth.net> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] fields not appearing Date: 19 Oct 2000 11:30:03 -0800 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.2.0.1552 X-ID: 551E18F9145F4049B6480FADCFABF392 X-Brand: NeoPlanet X-Build: 1552 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __________________________________________________________________ I have a document with many fields. Fields that are on one master page then duplicated on thirty more pages. It seems like since we upgraded Acrobat to the latest version many of the fields will not show up on the other pages. Strangely enough though, when I attempt to highlight the field area that does not show up normally it will show up when highlighted. Then it will disapear when clicked off. Has anybody had this problem. Need Help. 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Received: by gateway id <4JWPQCPB>; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:54:08 -0300 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:54:01 -0300 From: "White, George" Subject: RE: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files To: "'Daniel Weiss'" , pdfTeX Message-id: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FBFEF@MSGMARBIO05> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Most people use a URW "clone" font for "New Century Schoolbook". teTeX provides a .map file fragment that will use URW versions for the Adobe "laserwriter 35" fonts. Perhaps it is time to rearrange things so that free software actually refers to the free fonts by default, and let people who have commercial fonts make the substitution. Then if they have problems they can go to the font vendor (e.g., Y&Y) instead of the free software developer. I think it is only fair to give name recognition to URW for providing the fonts most of use most of the time. The principle of "least surprise" requires that the defaults in a TeX distribution avoid substitutions that most users don't understand. There are several cases where it is commonplace to substitute fonts that are not entirely similar (e.g., Acrobat Reader 4 replaces Helvetica-Oblique with Arial-Italic). If the default for pdftex were to use the URW fonts (e.g. NimbusSanL) these would be embedded in the pdf and we wouldn't have the problems that occur when Acrobat uses Arial where the author had requested Helvetica. Of course there is nothing to prevent people who a) know that Arial will be acceptable, and b) want minimum file size, from configuring their systems for Helvetica. > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Weiss [SMTP:Daniel.Weiss@phys.uni-goettingen.de] > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:26 AM > To: pdfTeX > Subject: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hi, > > having upgraded from pdftex 0.14e to pdftex 0.14f (part of Miktex 2 beta > 6), pdflatex suddenly doesn't find New Century Schoolbook font files > anymore. These warnings come at the end of the log: > > Warning: PDFLATEX (file pncbi8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for > reading > 10.pf > b> > Warning: PDFLATEX (file pncb8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for > reading > > Warning: PDFLATEX (file pncri8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for > reading > > Warning: PDFLATEX (file pncr8a.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for > reading > Output written on thesis.pdf (128 pages, 7208607 bytes). > > I searched the drive and cannot find those files (pnc*a.pfb); however, > they are not present in the old distribution (miktex 1.2e) either, and > the file used to compile without font warnings using that distribution! > How did pdflatex manage to compile the output back then? There's another > warning earlier in the log: > > Warning: PDFLATEX (file csfontd.mapfile): cannot open font map file > > So perhaps pdflatex needs to use other .pfb files to substitute the > pnc*a.pfb? I am aware that this is not a pdflatex problem, but rather a > problem of the latex distribution, but perhaps somebody knows anyway... > > Thanks for any help, > Daniel > > Daniel Weiss tel: +49 551 399431 > Institute for X-Ray Physics (IRP) fax: +49 551 399430 > University Georgia Augusta at Goettingen email: Daniel.Weiss@ > Geiststrasse 11, 37073 Goettingen, Germany > phys.uni-goettingen.de > > PGP public key: > http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x3D3E57B9&fingerp > rint=on > (fingerprint: F0 4C B3 27 0E 36 08 C0 54 A7 73 DD ED 52 B0 9B) > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3ia > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBOe6wCvSzBDo9Ple5AQH5igP/SpqUwmjwQx3AivZSQzFf+V8+Hv6O4gm2 > XavcryrXq5+yGI7HPcvvYlW8FSozJZZxj4FsQf+myr9TcDS7PY9jL3PwUacoyxxx > kqK0YP4SoZUnVv5R+bU+RvR84j2B9ZBj1EsFJNVVKVrOVWLZeV4yndy33ekIDBSK > peMTTL9qUTM= > =BRal > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 19-Oct-2000 18:08:27-GMT,2586;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09395 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:08:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07723 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:28:00 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07720 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:27:58 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08800; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:30:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: <20001019173418.C30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The code on pdftex that takes care of fonts that are embedded in included PDF graphics does not care if the embedded font is CFF or not; if I recall correctly, pdftex examines the /Font and/or the /FontDescriptor objects to get the /FontName, stripes the 6 letter prefix if there is one, and the uses what remains to do the look up in the font maps. If that font is not there, then the font is copied at the end of the pdftex run. Since the font is in the fontmap, pdftex tries to make a new subset, but fails because the font is not available on the system. It would help if we could see the PDF file(s): te one that is being included, and the one that is generated by pdftex. Thanh, is the font searching done in just the page's resource dictionary, or is font name searching also done in an /XObject's resource dictionary? This might be where the problem is at... Tom On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Martin Schröder wrote: > On 2000-10-19 15:16:55 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > > Aha, the info that the missing font is from a pdf included figure is > > important. > > Further exploration reveals that the font is not missing but is a > Type1C CFF font (see technote #5176). Is this a known problem? > > Puzzling facts about this: Two different Acrobat Reader > installations (both the same Reader Linux/x86 4.05) behave > differently with this font: One can use it, the other can't. Our > RIP (Jaws OEM) can use it. > > Best regards > Martin > 19-Oct-2000 18:51:08-GMT,2450;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10692 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07796 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:15:07 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07793 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:15:06 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11221; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:17:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:17:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > The code on pdftex that takes care of fonts that are embedded in included PDF > graphics does not care if the embedded font is CFF or not; if I recall > correctly, pdftex examines the /Font and/or the /FontDescriptor objects to get > the /FontName, stripes the 6 letter prefix if there is one, and the uses what > remains to do the look up in the font maps. If that font is not there, then the > font is copied at the end of the pdftex run. > > Since the font is in the fontmap, pdftex tries to make a new subset, but fails > because the font is not available on the system. > I just verified this with some test of my own. Moreover, if the PFB file is not found, pdftex gives a wrning and continues. The pdftex generated PDF file will then use Adobe Serif MM (because in my tests, I used Palatino, which is a serifed font). > It would help if we could see the PDF file(s): te one that is being included, > and the one that is generated by pdftex. > > Thanh, is the font searching done in just the page's resource dictionary, or is > font name searching also done in an /XObject's resource dictionary? This might be > where the problem is at... > The searching is down recursively, top to bottom. I looked in pdftoepdf.cc. So an XObject form will get its fonts treated as well. Tom 19-Oct-2000 21:22:15-GMT,3335;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14815 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:22:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07988 for pdftex-list; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:43:24 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07985 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:43:22 -0400 Received: from max128.public.ox.ac.uk (max128.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.128]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA22560; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:45:49 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:43:41 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: "White, George" cc: "'Daniel Weiss'" , pdfTeX Subject: RE: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files In-Reply-To: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FBFEF@MSGMARBIO05> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, White, George wrote: > Most people use a URW "clone" font for "New Century Schoolbook". teTeX > provides > a .map file fragment that will use URW versions for the Adobe "laserwriter > 35" fonts. I don't think so. Surely, most people use the one embedded in a PostScript or postscript-clone or PDF printer or a display driver (X11 or ATM or otherwise). > Perhaps it is time to rearrange things so that free software actually refers > to the free > fonts by default, and let people who have commercial fonts make the > substitution. Whoa! The names referred to in the psnfss package are the Adobe ones, as are the font metrics. Using URW fonts would be a font substitution, not vice-versa. If you want to create a urw-psnfss please feel free to do so, but not to alter something that has been the way it is for at least six years. Some of us have extensive projects (like books that need reprints and new editions) that depend on the psnfss being stable. Clones are copies, nor originals, by definition. > Then if they have problems they can go to the font vendor (e.g., Y&Y) > instead of the free software developer. I think it is only fair to > give name recognition to URW for providing the fonts most of use most > of the time. The principle of "least surprise" requires that the Even if that were true it is still not giving credit to the original font designers. You are suggesting by analogy that we should use good fakes of Old Master paintings and then credit the fakers for the composition. > defaults in a TeX distribution avoid substitutions that most users > don't understand. I agree, so when they ask for Times-Roman they should get it, not NimbusRomNo9L-Regu. Your principle appears to be `maximal surprise'! [ more in the same vein ] -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 20-Oct-2000 8:11:04-GMT,1503;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA27690 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 02:11:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA08774 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 03:32:36 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08771 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 03:32:34 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05495 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:35:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20128 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:35:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010200735.JAA20128@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: from Tom Kacvinsky at "Oct 19, 0 02:17:36 pm" To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:35:06 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk it may be sensible to check whether a font in a pdf figure is available before substituing it. I will look at it. Thanh 20-Oct-2000 8:56:19-GMT,2027;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA28389 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 02:56:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA08845 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 04:10:35 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA08842 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 04:10:32 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id KAA05015; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:13:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id KAA07246; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:13:04 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:13:04 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200010200813.KAA07246@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Tom Kacvinsky Cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk BTW, I still have one remining problem with "fonts". If I include an illustrator "artwork" with patterns as PDF in pdftex, the resulting pdf won't print (they display OK -- in fact, they print to PS-1, not PS-2!). this is because the patterns are internally coded as fonts and, according to Thanh, these fonts appear in the resource dictionnary of the page and not of the document. Anyway, they're not downloaded to the PS file but acrobat. Can anything be done re this point? Thanks, Thierry Bouche 20-Oct-2000 9:16:55-GMT,2032;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28740 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 03:16:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA08755 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 03:27:35 -0400 Received: from forprint.se ([195.67.94.43]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08752 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 03:27:33 -0400 Received: from forprint.se [195.67.94.59] by forprint.se with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A29A48CC0288; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:22:02 +0200 Message-ID: <39F00652.34EEC889@forprint.se> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:46:11 +0100 From: Anders Alstrin Organization: Forprint AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFtex Subject: Problems convert PDF done with pdftex 0.14e. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all.. I´m trying to take a PDF file created with pdftex 0.14e and convert it with ImageMagic 5.2 and create a thumbnail of the pdf. ************************ \definepapersize[visit][width=8.9cm,height=4.9cm] \setuppapersize[visit][visit] \setuplayout[backspace=0pt,topspace=0pt,width=fit,height=fit,header=0pt,footer=0pt] \setupinteraction[state=start] \setupinteractionscreen[option=min] \starttext \setupoutput[pdftex] \defineoverlay [something] [{\externalfigure[v_mall.pdf][factor=fit]}] \setupbackgrounds [page] [background=something] \copypages [visit1.pdf] \stoptext ************ texexec --result=visit1.pdf v_tex --once I have no problems to view the pdf in acrobat and everything works like a charm when printing the file. But when i try to do a thumbnail of the PDF with ImageMagic i get. Error /typecheck in --astore--. I got no problem´s converting any other pdf´s.. em i missing something? 20-Oct-2000 10:18:01-GMT,1750;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA29703 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 04:18:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08920 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 05:27:05 -0400 Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08917 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 05:27:03 -0400 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8532A26 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:29:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:29:37 +0200 Message-ID: <50B56D407D2DD31191DE00902771E9F44B15EF@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: PDF spec Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:29:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear pdfTeX developers, I realize that currently pdfTeX produces PDF documents according to Adobe's PDF specifications version 1.2. It follows that the use of so-called 'progressive JPEG' images is not currently possible with pdfTeX. In an earlier thread in this mailing list the new PDF reference (v1.3) people discussed the quality of this document but not, alas, the contents. What I'd like to know is: what is the strategy for the development of pdfTeX? Will they follow the new specification, or focus on debugging with the current specification? Regards, Dennis van Dok 20-Oct-2000 12:24:23-GMT,2607;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01755 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 06:24:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09068 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:47:19 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09065 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:47:17 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.22.253]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G2Q8U800.FLW for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:49:20 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001020100216.018ee8e0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:02:16 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Hans Hagen Subject: RE: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files In-Reply-To: References: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FBFEF@MSGMARBIO05> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:43 PM 10/19/00 +0100, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote: >Whoa! The names referred to in the psnfss package are the Adobe ones, as >are the font metrics. Using URW fonts would be a font substitution, not >vice-versa. If you want to create a urw-psnfss please feel free to do so, >but not to alter something that has been the way it is for at least six >years. Some of us have extensive projects (like books that need reprints >and new editions) that depend on the psnfss being stable. Clones are >copies, nor originals, by definition. I may be wrong, but there have been changes in the metrics of those 'stable' adobe fonts, and, as Nelson Beebe explained some time ago, there are definitely differences in the font metrics you use while texing and the one used when viewing. To what extend do the font metrics of the urw fonts differ from the adobe ones? Even if they differ, they may be better substitutes than substitutes that are platform dependent and even change per software version. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-2000 13:04:08-GMT,1971;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02456 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:04:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09121 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:26:25 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09118 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:26:24 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29426; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:28:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16444; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:28:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010201228.OAA16444@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: <200010200813.KAA07246@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> from Thierry Bouche at "Oct 20, 0 10:13:04 am" To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr (Thierry Bouche) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:28:54 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: tjk@ams.org, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > BTW, I still have one remining problem with "fonts". > > If I include an illustrator "artwork" with patterns as PDF in pdftex, > the resulting pdf won't print (they display OK -- in fact, they print > to PS-1, not PS-2!). > > this is because the patterns are internally coded as fonts and, > according to Thanh, these fonts appear in the resource dictionnary of > the page and not of the document. Anyway, they're not downloaded to > the PS file but acrobat. > > Can anything be done re this point? I don't remember much about that. Can you please send me such a file? Thanh 20-Oct-2000 13:06:40-GMT,2523;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02493 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:06:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09114 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:24:27 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09111 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:24:24 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29133; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:26:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA16269; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:26:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010201226.OAA16269@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: PDF spec In-Reply-To: <50B56D407D2DD31191DE00902771E9F44B15EF@ecntex.ecn.nl> from "Dok, D. van" at "Oct 20, 0 11:29:28 am" To: d.vandok@ecn.nl (Dok, D. van) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:26:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I realize that currently pdfTeX produces PDF documents according to Adobe's > PDF specifications version 1.2. It follows that the use of so-called > 'progressive JPEG' images is not currently possible with pdfTeX. > > In an earlier thread in this mailing list the new PDF reference (v1.3) > people discussed the quality of this document but not, alas, the contents. > > What I'd like to know is: what is the strategy for the development of > pdfTeX? Will they follow the new specification, or focus on debugging with > the current specification? which version of pdftex are you using? Support for 'progressive JPEG' images has been added by Jiri Osoba a time ago: ==================== cut here ========================== Hi, another update of pdftex-0.14d pretest is available at http://www.fi.muni.cz/~thanh/download/pdftex (sources and binaries for linux/djgpp/solaris/irix). There were quite many fixes concerning pdf inclusion and font handling. Bitmap images inclusion was also improved: 1) tiff grey images are not converted to RGB as in previous version; 2) Jiri Osoba added supported for progessive JPEG. ==================== cut here ========================== Thanh 20-Oct-2000 13:30:52-GMT,2251;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02965 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:30:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09139 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:52:40 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09136 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:52:38 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13mbmn-0001Q9-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:00:37 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA04380 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:54:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13mbfR-004wwRC; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:53:01 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:53:01 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: ccf (was: How to debug the font usage of pdftex?) Message-ID: <20001020145301.I30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <20001019173418.C30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tjk@ams.org on Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 01:30:26PM -0400 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-19 13:30:26 -0400, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > It would help if we could see the PDF file(s): te one that is being included, > and the one that is generated by pdftex. http://www.oneiros.de/tex/pdftex/ccf.tar.gz Thanks in advance Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 20-Oct-2000 13:46:35-GMT,2822;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03244 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:46:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09161 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:07:44 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09158 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:07:42 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13mc1N-0001aC-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:15:41 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA04729 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:09:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13mbun-004wwRC; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:08:53 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:08:53 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? Message-ID: <20001020150853.K30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20001019160046.A30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200010191554.RAA11959@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010191554.RAA11959@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 05:54:38PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-19 17:54:38 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > > > In your case, you can simply comment out the line for Stone-Sans in your > > > map file to fix it (and AdobeMM will be used to render the font). Or you > > > > Can I disable this automatic substitution? pdfTeX shall use the > > fonts it finds or complain bitterly and fail. > > unfortunately no. You must have the font, or comment out lines for the > missing fonts from your map file. And then pdftex will happily compile a pdf which might fail when ripped because it doesn't contain all referenced fonts, right? Request: A switch to let pdftex produce an error in this case. I know that the missing fonts will be substituted by MMs in Acrobat Reader; the pdf consuming application in my case is a rip driving an image- or platesetter where you don't want substituion by MMs. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 20-Oct-2000 13:48:00-GMT,2442;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03284 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:47:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09202 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:14:39 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09199 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:14:37 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13mc84-0001eT-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:22:36 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA04938 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:14:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13mbzJ-004wwRC; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:13:33 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:13:33 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? Message-ID: <20001020151333.L30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <200010191551.RAA11719@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010191551.RAA11719@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 05:51:45PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-19 17:50:39 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > > Which AdobeMM will be used by pdftex? > > it's not related to pdftex at all. When the font file is missing, the > brower does its best to render the font, using the font metrics and > description. In case of Acrobat Reader, it has some builtin MM fonts for > this purpose. gv/xpdf would fail. It doesn't in this case because it can extract the included fonts -- which pdftex can't. Otherwise you're right -- I forgot the reader. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 20-Oct-2000 13:55:02-GMT,2339;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03443 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:55:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09210 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:19:42 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09207 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:19:40 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13mcCv-0001gJ-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:27:37 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA05134 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:21:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13mc6F-004wwRC; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:20:43 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:20:43 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Including separated and composite pdf Message-ID: <20001020152043.M30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, the application we are developing will use pdftex for composing pages on one page. Some of these pages might be separated pdf (i.e. one page per separation), other will be composite (all colours on each page). Including separated pdfs with pdftex is currently not mixable with composite pdf since pdftex sees every separation as a page and so includes only one separation (which has the colour black). Is it possible to include all separations of a page and combine them? If not, how much coding would be needed to add this to pdftex? Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 20-Oct-2000 15:07:38-GMT,2131;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04952 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:07:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09280 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:18:57 -0400 Received: from ecnwall.ecn.nl (ecnwall.ecn.nl [130.112.1.86]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09277 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:18:55 -0400 Received: from ecntex.ecn.nl (ecntex.ecn.nl [130.112.1.26]) by ecnwall.ecn.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA62D280D; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:21:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ecntex.ecn.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:21:23 +0200 Message-ID: <50B56D407D2DD31191DE00902771E9F44B15F5@ecntex.ecn.nl> From: "Dok, D. van" To: "'Han The Thanh'" Cc: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: PDF spec Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:21:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: Han The Thanh [mailto:thanh@informatics.muni.cz] > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 14:27 > To: d.vandok@ecn.nl > Cc: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: Re: PDF spec > > > > which version of pdftex are you using? Support for 'progressive JPEG' > images has been added by Jiri Osoba a time ago: > Hm. I'm still using 0.14d from the stable MikTeX distribution. I read the fact that pdfTeX uses PDF 1.2 in the user manual dated januari 21 2000. I should have known that according to internet standards it was outdated. I'd still like to know what kind of "strategy" is followed regarding the development of pdfTeX. What targets have you set? How do you decide which way to go? What can end users (like me) expect from pdfTeX? (other than that it's so far the best tool for creating top quality documents) Are there any plans on enabling pdfTeX for creating linear PDF's? Regards, Dennis van Dok 20-Oct-2000 15:22:38-GMT,2687;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05343 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:22:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09303 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:30:34 -0400 Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09300 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:30:32 -0400 Received: from biology.usu.edu (129.123.16.3 [129.123.16.3]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 49S83159; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:33:06 -0600 Message-ID: <39F0583B.905ED031@biology.usu.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:35:39 -0600 From: "James W. Haefner" Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Bouche , pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? References: <200010200813.KAA07246@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > > BTW, I still have one remining problem with "fonts". > > If I include an illustrator "artwork" with patterns as PDF in pdftex, > the resulting pdf won't print (they display OK -- in fact, they print > to PS-1, not PS-2!). > > this is because the patterns are internally coded as fonts and, > according to Thanh, these fonts appear in the resource dictionnary of > the page and not of the document. Anyway, they're not downloaded to > the PS file but acrobat. > > Can anything be done re this point? > > Thanks, > > Thierry Bouche What applications were you using to print? Does the artwork alone (w/o being imbedded in pdflatex) *print* (as well as view)? This is the situation I discovered for artwork generated by the Unix drawing program Xfig: acroread would view and print the drawing with a patterned fill, but only view and not print the pattern fill when embedded in a pdflatex document. Pdflatex was doing something that frustrated the acroread print engine; perhaps it has to do with the "conversion" of the patterns to fonts as you suggest. -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 20-Oct-2000 15:49:02-GMT,4706;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06039 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:49:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09374 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:13:06 -0400 Received: from cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [142.176.61.253]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA09371 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:13:04 -0400 Received: id MAA20080; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:12:35 -0300 Received: by gateway id <0G2Q008L2I86O9@bionet.bio.dfo.ca> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:12:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: by gateway ??? Received: by gateway id <4JWPQNGH>; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:11:43 -0300 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:11:33 -0300 From: "White, George" Subject: RE: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files To: "'Prof Brian D Ripley'" , "White, George" Cc: "'Daniel Weiss'" , pdfTeX Message-id: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FBFF1@MSGMARBIO05> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I didn't mean to suggest that the defaults allow users to request Adobe and get URW. Why not: \usepackage[adobe]{times] and \usepackage[urw]{times} along with changes to updmap to warn users if they attempt to install maps for non-existent fonts. The tricky part is that the Adobe base 35 fonts don't get embedded in PS, and only some are embedded in PDF. Such problems are part of the reason PDF was invented. It is safer to make URW the default in the map files (but _not_ as substitutes for Adobe fonts) and "always embed". > -----Original Message----- > From: Prof Brian D Ripley [SMTP:ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:44 PM > To: White, George > Cc: 'Daniel Weiss'; pdfTeX > Subject: RE: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, White, George wrote: > > > Most people use a URW "clone" font for "New Century Schoolbook". teTeX > > provides > > a .map file fragment that will use URW versions for the Adobe > "laserwriter > > 35" fonts. > > I don't think so. Surely, most people use the one embedded in a > PostScript > or postscript-clone or PDF printer or a display driver (X11 or ATM or > otherwise). > > > Perhaps it is time to rearrange things so that free software actually > refers > > to the free > > fonts by default, and let people who have commercial fonts make the > > substitution. > > Whoa! The names referred to in the psnfss package are the Adobe ones, as > are the font metrics. Using URW fonts would be a font substitution, not > vice-versa. If you want to create a urw-psnfss please feel free to do so, > but not to alter something that has been the way it is for at least six > years. Some of us have extensive projects (like books that need reprints > and new editions) that depend on the psnfss being stable. Clones are > copies, nor originals, by definition. [White, George] most people would still use the original PSNFSS, and ignore the URW version. Can you live with having to change all the \usepackage lines to add "[adobe]"? > > Then if they have problems they can go to the font vendor (e.g., Y&Y) > > instead of the free software developer. I think it is only fair to > > give name recognition to URW for providing the fonts most of use most > > of the time. The principle of "least surprise" requires that the > > Even if that were true it is still not giving credit to the original font > designers. You are suggesting by analogy that we should use good fakes of > Old Master paintings and then credit the fakers for the composition. > [White, George] Many people have marginally good fakes hanging on the wall that they attribute to an "Old Master". If these are given the correct label (e.g., URW clone of Adobe Times-Roman) things are clearer. > > > defaults in a TeX distribution avoid substitutions that most users > > don't understand. > > I agree, so when they ask for Times-Roman they should get it, not > NimbusRomNo9L-Regu. Your principle appears to be `maximal surprise'! > > [ more in the same vein ] > > -- > Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk > Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ > University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) > 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) > Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 20-Oct-2000 16:23:58-GMT,2242;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06940 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:23:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09415 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:40:05 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09412 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:40:03 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25035; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:42:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: ccf (was: How to debug the font usage of pdftex?) In-Reply-To: <20001020145301.I30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Martin, I took a look at the files you made available to us. Given what I see in the source code, pdftex is doing the right thing in each case: with the teTeX set up, there is no font map entry for Stone Serif, so pdftex copies the font from the inc.pdf file; with the TeX Live set up, there is a font map entry, and pdftex tries to make a new font resource using a PFN file available on the system. The PFB file is not there, pdftex does not embed the font, and hence substitution occurs (using AdobeSerMM). So, I think what you are after is that if pdftex cannot find the PFB file (as in the case of the TewX live setup), pdftex should fail miserably. Or am I wrong? Anyway, what was the problem with the two different versions of Reader not producing the same results? Tom On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Martin Schröder wrote: > On 2000-10-19 13:30:26 -0400, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > > It would help if we could see the PDF file(s): te one that is being included, > > and the one that is generated by pdftex. > > http://www.oneiros.de/tex/pdftex/ccf.tar.gz > > Thanks in advance > Martin > 20-Oct-2000 16:31:33-GMT,2224;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07250 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09433 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:54:57 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09430 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:54:54 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13medB-0002xh-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:02:53 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA07604 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:57:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13meWY-004wwRC; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:56:02 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:56:02 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: ccf Message-ID: <20001020175602.V30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <20001020145301.I30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tjk@ams.org on Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 11:42:33AM -0400 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-20 11:42:33 -0400, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > Anyway, what was the problem with the two different versions of Reader > not producing the same results? On different systems the same reader can extract and display the font or not. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 20-Oct-2000 21:42:19-GMT,3592;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15968 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:42:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09711 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:59:44 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09708 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:59:42 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA22404; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 23:02:13 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 23:02:13 +0200 Message-Id: <200010202102.XAA22404@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Prof Brian D Ripley Cc: "White, George" , "'Daniel Weiss'" , pdfTeX Subject: RE: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files In-Reply-To: References: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FBFEF@MSGMARBIO05> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Prof" == Prof Brian D Ripley writes: > [...] > Whoa! The names referred to in the psnfss package are the Adobe > ones, as are the font metrics. Using URW fonts would be a font > substitution, not vice-versa. If you want to create a > urw-psnfss please feel free to do so, but not to alter something > that has been the way it is for at least six years. Some of us > have extensive projects (like books that need reprints and new > editions) that depend on the psnfss being stable. Clones are > copies, nor originals, by definition. Are you sure they are faked? I've heard that the free URW fonts are identical to the Adobe fonts. Can anybody confirm that the metrics and the glyphs are exactly the same for all 35 fonts? > Even if that were true it is still not giving credit to the > original font designers. You are suggesting by analogy that we > should use good fakes of Old Master paintings and then credit > the fakers for the composition. Adobe did not design all the fonts they sell. The Palatino for instance was designed by Hermann Zapf. I recently asked him whether the Palatino fonts distributed by Bitstream are faked because the /FontName was not Palatino-Roman. He told me that Linotype copyrighted the name "Palatino" and when he then digitized the fonts for Bitstream and URW, Linotype insisted on their copyright. But the Palatino distributed by URW is definitely the original. You should rather give credit to Hermann Zapf than to Adobe. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Oct-2000 22:48:05-GMT,3357;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17477 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:48:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09791 for pdftex-list; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:13:45 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09788 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:13:42 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA22805; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 00:16:16 +0200 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 00:16:16 +0200 Message-Id: <200010202216.AAA22805@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "White, George" Cc: "'Prof Brian D Ripley'" , "'Daniel Weiss'" , pdfTeX Subject: RE: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files In-Reply-To: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FBFF1@MSGMARBIO05> References: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FBFF1@MSGMARBIO05> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "George" == White, George writes: > I didn't mean to suggest that the defaults allow users to > request Adobe and get URW. Why not: > \usepackage[adobe]{times] and \usepackage[urw]{times} Because the maintainer of the times package, which was designed to support Adobe fonts, have to take care about other font vendors. If only Adobe and URW are supported it's too special, and if all vendors who provide times are supported it gets too large. It would be much better if someone would write a package utimes.sty that explicitly loads the urw times. The naming scheme would be the same as that used by Thierry Bouche for the Bitstream fonts on CTAN. They are all named b*.sty. > along with changes to updmap to warn users if they attempt to > install maps for non-existent fonts. The tricky part is that > the Adobe base 35 fonts don't get embedded in PS, and only some > are embedded in PDF. Such problems are part of the reason PDF > was invented. AFAIK, teTeX uses URW fonts for previewing and doesn't embed them for printing. I think that this is absolutely correct. > It is safer to make URW the default in the map files (but _not_ > as substitutes for Adobe fonts) and "always embed". A package utimes.sty would allow the user to embed the fonts without touching the map files. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Oct-2000 7:45:10-GMT,3863;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26603 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 01:45:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA10393 for pdftex-list; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 02:54:02 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA10390 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 02:53:55 -0400 Received: from max152.public.ox.ac.uk (max152.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.152]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA04443; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 07:56:23 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 07:54:13 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Reinhard Kotucha cc: pdfTeX Subject: RE: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files In-Reply-To: <200010202102.XAA22404@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > >>>>> "Prof" == Prof Brian D Ripley writes: > > > [...] > > Whoa! The names referred to in the psnfss package are the Adobe > > ones, as are the font metrics. Using URW fonts would be a font > > substitution, not vice-versa. If you want to create a > > urw-psnfss please feel free to do so, but not to alter something > > that has been the way it is for at least six years. Some of us > > have extensive projects (like books that need reprints and new > > editions) that depend on the psnfss being stable. Clones are > > copies, nor originals, by definition. > > Are you sure they are faked? I've heard that the free URW fonts are > identical to the Adobe fonts. Can anybody confirm that the metrics > and the glyphs are exactly the same for all 35 fonts? The metrics are substantially different. I cross-checked the Times family. Not all the character BBoxes are the same, the FontBBoxes differ a lot and the kerning tables are substantially different. Just take a look at the afm files. (Just to make this reproducible: I compared the URW afms for ghostscript with Adobe ones shipped with Solaris 2.7, and also the CTAN afms I found for ptm?8a.afm and utm?8a.afm on which I assume the commonly used tfms are based. What checks did you do?) > > Even if that were true it is still not giving credit to the > > original font designers. You are suggesting by analogy that we > > should use good fakes of Old Master paintings and then credit > > the fakers for the composition. > > Adobe did not design all the fonts they sell. Please read more carefully what I said in the context you have omitted. This was in response to something that suggested we should be giving credit to URW. > The Palatino for > instance was designed by Hermann Zapf. I recently asked him whether > the Palatino fonts distributed by Bitstream are faked because the > /FontName was not Palatino-Roman. He told me that Linotype > copyrighted the name "Palatino" and when he then digitized the fonts > for Bitstream and URW, Linotype insisted on their copyright. But the > Palatino distributed by URW is definitely the original. > You should rather give credit to Hermann Zapf than to Adobe. I do (although I rarely use it), and that was precisely my point. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 21-Oct-2000 16:51:53-GMT,1482;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05770 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 10:51:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10889 for pdftex-list; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 12:13:41 -0400 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10884 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 12:13:28 -0400 Received: from [62.7.41.252] (helo=daltons.net) by tungsten.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 13n1JT-00035H-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:16:04 +0100 Message-ID: <39F1C0D9.17C2F742@daltons.net> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:14:17 +0100 From: Barney Dalton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Thankyou, thankyou Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I just wanted to say thanks to all the pdftex developers. I am writing my thesis at the moment, and latex/pdftex makes it almost fun, the trouble is I spend too much time tweaking the appearance and not writing the text! I just feel so sorry for all my fellow students struggling away with word, once you get over 100 pages the differences really show. Keep up the good work. barney 22-Oct-2000 12:31:19-GMT,3681;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26371 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 06:31:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA12193 for pdftex-list; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 07:55:07 -0400 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12190 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 07:55:05 -0400 Received: from [213.123.56.254] (helo=daltons.net) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 13nJl4-000126-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:57:47 +0100 Message-ID: <39F2D5D4.2D72FB5@daltons.net> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:56:04 +0100 From: Barney Dalton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: some notes on updating pdftex on a debian box Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk below are some notes on how to update the rather old pdftex that comes with debian 2.2. Its actually very easy! This is pretty much a copy of my bash history. barney #download pdftex binaries from ftp://ftp.muni.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/0.14f/ unzip pdftex-20000525-linux.zip -d pdftex #update binaries cd /usr/bin sudo mv pdftex pdftex.orig sudo cp ~/install/pdftex/bin/pdftex . sudo mv pdflatex pdflatex.orig sudo cp ~/install/pdftex/bin/pdftex pdflatex sudo mv ttf2afm ttf2afm.orig sudo cp ~/install/pdftex/bin/ttf2afm . #update the pool file - whatever that is? sudo find /var -name pdftex.pool cd /var/lib/texmf/web2c/ sudo mv pdftex.pool pdftex.pool.orig sudo cp ~/install/pdftex/bin/pdftex.pool . #update the formats sudo fmtutil --byfmt pdftex sudo fmtutil --byfmt pdflatex #download latest graphics def file http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/pdftex/graphics/ pdftex.def #install the new graphics def file find /usr/share/ -name pdftex.def cd /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/ sudo mv pdftex.def pdftex.def.orig sudo cp ~/install/pdftex/pdftex.def . #thats it - IT WORKED FIRST TIME!! # solved proble of included pdf files being messed up too!!! # I did get a few warnings first time I did this back in april but # its seems ok with latest tetex debian. If you get these warnings, see # fix below warning: pdflatex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map): invalid entr y for `hlcbot8rn': too big value of ExtendFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map): invalid entr y for `hlcbt8rn': too big value of ExtendFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map): invalid entr y for `hlcrot8rn': too big value of ExtendFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map): invalid entr y for `hlcrt8rn': too big value of ExtendFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map): invalid entr y for `hlsbot8rn': too big value of ExtendFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map): invalid entr y for `hlsbt8rn': too big value of ExtendFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map): invalid entr y for `hlsrot8rn': too big value of ExtendFont (850) Warning: pdflatex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map): invalid entr y for `hlsrt8rn': too big value of ExtendFont (850) Thomas fixed this problem in the latest tetex pretest. Anyway you can fix it manually by editing pdftex.map (replace 850 by .85) barney 22-Oct-2000 13:58:35-GMT,1383;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27695 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 07:58:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12276 for pdftex-list; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 09:24:46 -0400 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12273 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 09:24:44 -0400 Received: from [62.6.68.23] (helo=daltons.net) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 13nL9l-0004Da-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:27:22 +0100 Message-ID: <39F2EAD6.6E2F6C08@daltons.net> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:25:42 +0100 From: Barney Dalton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: updating pdftex on debian - some extra steps Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I forgot a couple of steps! You also need to upgrade hyperref http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip download, unzip, make, make install I also had to increase the pool size /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf changed to: pool_size = 225000 barney 22-Oct-2000 19:53:54-GMT,1942;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04488 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 13:53:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12494 for pdftex-list; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:49:53 -0400 Received: from linum.com (pC19F4458.dip.t-dialin.net [193.159.68.88]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA12491 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:49:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 14627 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2000 18:52:23 -0000 From: "Claas Hilbrecht" Organization: Linum Software GmbH To: pdftex Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:50:41 +0200 Subject: type1 font installation Message-ID: <39F35322.2060.64822C@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12cDE) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I read many FAQs about font installation in PDFTeX but now I had to give up. Every FAQ seems to be incomplete (PDFTeX-FAQ) or is not working for me (http://www.radamir.com/tex/ttf-tex.htm). So please don't simply reply to RTFFA. I need to use a special version off the Gill Sans font (which is made for the DRK and includes some specials symbols). I have both the PS files (the *.pfb and *.afm files) and a truetype version off that font. So whatevers is easier to use with pdftex is ok. As far as I understand the font installation I need to create one fd file (*.fd), a virtual font file (*.vf). I need also included the font in the font mapping file. But which tools are needed to create these special files? I tried fontinst but this doesn't create the virtual font files. The ttf2tfm tools is not included in my distrubtion so the way that is described on http://www.radamir.com/tex/ttf-tex.htm didn't work too. So my question is. What steps are really needed to use a type1 font with pdfTeX? Thanks in advance. Claas 23-Oct-2000 0:13:55-GMT,2009;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09555 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:13:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12659 for pdftex-list; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:26:07 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA12656 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:26:04 -0400 From: tim@maths.tcd.ie Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 23 Oct 2000 00:28:49 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: type1 font installation In-Reply-To: <39F35322.2060.64822C@localhost> from Claas Hilbrecht at "Oct 22, 2000 08:50:41 pm" To: Claas.Hilbrecht@linum.com Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:28:48 +0100 (BST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL49 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <200010230028.aa52899@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > As far as I understand > the font installation I need to create one fd file (*.fd), a virtual > font file (*.vf). I need also included the font in the font mapping > file. But which tools are needed to create these special files? I don't know if you actually need to create a VF font, but if you do the tool to use is vptovf. This starts with an ASCII (*.vp) version of the file, and creates the *.vf version. To see what the *.vp file should contain, do the opposite -- run vftovp on an existing *.vf file (I would choose a *.vf file near to the one I want). FD files are ASCII -- I think the format is pretty obvious from looking at any *.fd file. Note that the FD file describes a font _family_ -- upright, italic, bold, etc. If you only have one font it might be overkill. Incidentally, I think the LaTeX Companion has a pretty lucid description of fonts. 23-Oct-2000 2:11:07-GMT,1220;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11769 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:11:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12742 for pdftex-list; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:24:56 -0400 Received: from monkey.mcs.kent.edu (pwang@monkey.mcs.kent.edu [131.123.2.220]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12739 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:24:53 -0400 Received: (from pwang@localhost) by monkey.mcs.kent.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mcs.10.31.97) id VAA14999 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:27:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul S. Wang" Message-Id: <200010230127.VAA14999@monkey.mcs.kent.edu> Subject: eps included in tex/latex files To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:27:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear sirs, It is great to be able to go directly from tex to pdf. My qeustion is how to deal with the .eps files I include in my tex/latex files with \psfile? Is there a \pdffile? if I convert the .eps to .pdf with epstopdf? Thanks. Paul 23-Oct-2000 6:29:24-GMT,1843;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16614 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:29:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA13133 for pdftex-list; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 01:39:52 -0400 Received: from mail.jablotron.cz (IDENT:root@mail.jablotron.cz [194.228.41.227]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13130 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 01:39:48 -0400 Received: from osoba (gw.jablotron.cz [194.228.41.250]) by mail.jablotron.cz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA16596 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:42:31 +0200 Message-ID: <00ee01c03cb4$0977cd40$26faa8c0@intra.jablotron.cz> From: "Jiri Osoba" Cc: "PDFTeX Mailing List (E-mail)" References: <50B56D407D2DD31191DE00902771E9F44B15F5@ecntex.ecn.nl> Subject: Re: PDF spec Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:42:31 +0200 Organization: Jablotron Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Dok, D. van > > -----Original Message----- > > > > which version of pdftex are you using? Support for 'progressive JPEG' > > images has been added by Jiri Osoba a time ago: > > > > Hm. I'm still using 0.14d from the stable MikTeX distribution. I read the > fact that pdfTeX uses PDF 1.2 in the user manual dated januari 21 2000. I > should have known that according to internet standards it was outdated. There is some switch in configure to use %PDF-1.2 or %PDF-1.3. Maybe MikTeX 0.14d is compiled to %PDF-1.2. Jiri. 23-Oct-2000 9:38:18-GMT,1609;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19926 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 03:38:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA13428 for pdftex-list; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:58:33 -0400 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA13425 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:58:32 -0400 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13ndTp-0006Yg-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:01:17 +0100 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13ndTq-0008B3-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:01:18 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14835.65174.37220.66584@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:02:14 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: culling list members X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk the for the record, the following have been zapped from this list for persistent non-existence. If anyone knows these people, pass on the message icastillo@cimlab.tamu.edu norton@northsea.com Alec@Mihailovs.com gurvich@alphacc.tau.ac.il peter-klaus.schilling@desy.de goepfert@iap.uni-bonn.de Sebastian Rahtz 23-Oct-2000 11:13:51-GMT,1926;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21547 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:13:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA13578 for pdftex-list; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:15:02 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13575 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 06:15:00 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13nel3-0008M2-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:23:09 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA04420 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:10:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13neXo-004wwRC; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:09:28 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:09:28 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Separation Color Spaces (and LaTeX) Message-ID: <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, has anybody worked with Separation Color Spaces and pdfTeX? Maybe even used them together with the LaTeX picture environment? Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 23-Oct-2000 15:47:43-GMT,1941;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28594 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 09:47:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14022 for pdftex-list; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:56:01 -0400 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14019 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:55:59 -0400 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23206; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:58:45 -0400 (EDT) To: "Paul S. Wang" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: eps included in tex/latex files References: <200010230127.VAA14999@monkey.mcs.kent.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ed L Cashin Date: 23 Oct 2000 10:58:44 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Paul S. Wang writes: > Dear sirs, > > It is great to be able to go directly from tex to pdf. I'll say! :) > My qeustion is how to deal with the .eps files I include in my > tex/latex files with \psfile? Is there a \pdffile? if I convert the > .eps to .pdf with epstopdf? See section five of the FAQ, esp. "How do I include EPS pictures?": http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ-scr.pdf Be warned that the letter-sized user manual is broken. If you need letter size, there's a working version on the ConTeXt website: http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/pdftex/pdftex-l.pdf -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 23-Oct-2000 20:00:35-GMT,2435;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07451 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:00:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14313 for pdftex-list; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:57:39 -0400 Received: from mail.arcor-ip.de (mail-ffm-p.arcor-ip.de [145.253.2.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14310 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:57:37 -0400 Received: from box.home.de (212.144.204.20) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 23 Oct 2000 21:00:24 +0200 Received: from jochen by box.home.de with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13ne6u-0000IW-00; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:41:40 +0200 To: "Paul S. Wang" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: eps included in tex/latex files References: <200010230127.VAA14999@monkey.mcs.kent.edu> User-Agent: XEmacs/Gnus X-Face: -%Z4EZ6iY'4m:wiK:!v In-Reply-To: "Paul S. Wang"'s message of "Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:27:36 -0400 (EDT)" Date: 23 Oct 2000 11:41:40 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>>>> "PSW" == Paul S Wang writes: PSW> It is great to be able to go directly from tex to pdf. My PSW> qeustion is how to deal with the .eps files I include in my PSW> tex/latex files with \psfile? Is there a \pdffile? if I convert PSW> the .eps to .pdf with epstopdf? Convert the eps to pdf and use \includegraphics. You should use the grahic[sx] interface in *any* case, \psfile or whatever is obbsolete. Jochen - -- Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité GnuPG key: 44BCCD8E Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt and GnuPGd iD8DBQE59AfUiJ/aUUS8zY4RAh8FAJ4jTSomNTbsoHElNZlTLPePc1DJXgCguvbU VwvtMwELS2YibCKVhom956I= =hORB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 24-Oct-2000 10:14:15-GMT,2537;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27277 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 04:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA15244 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:21:07 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA15241 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:21:04 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id LAA21299; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:23:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA28447; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:23:16 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:23:16 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200010240923.LAA28447@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: "James W. Haefner" Cc: Thierry Bouche , pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: <39F0583B.905ED031@biology.usu.edu> References: <200010200813.KAA07246@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <39F0583B.905ED031@biology.usu.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » What applications were you using to print? PS » frustrated the acroread print engine; perhaps it has to do with the » "conversion" of the patterns to fonts as you suggest. The patterns are coded as type 3 fonts (which makes sense in PS as it is a handy way to print many times the same thing--in PDF, an object would be more suitable) by illustrator (7-8, at least, don't know what they do in 9). The pb is that these fonts (they have names like N01...) are handled correctly by the viewer, but not exported to the PS: this is surely a shortcoming of acrobat, but a workaround would be helpfull! And yes, the graphics with patterns do print without pb by themselves, it's oince they're included with pdftex that they wont. Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 24-Oct-2000 10:20:54-GMT,2693;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27394 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 04:20:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA15264 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:34:25 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA15261 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:34:23 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13o0bM-00028z-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:42:36 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA19584 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:36:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13o0Uw-004wwRC; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:35:58 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:35:58 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? Message-ID: <20001024113558.V13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX References: <20001019173418.C30672@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tjk@ams.org on Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 01:30:26PM -0400 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-19 13:30:26 -0400, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > The code on pdftex that takes care of fonts that are embedded in included PDF > graphics does not care if the embedded font is CFF or not; if I recall > correctly, pdftex examines the /Font and/or the /FontDescriptor objects to get > the /FontName, stripes the 6 letter prefix if there is one, and the uses what > remains to do the look up in the font maps. If that font is not there, then the > font is copied at the end of the pdftex run. > > Since the font is in the fontmap, pdftex tries to make a new subset, but fails > because the font is not available on the system. Why must it be? It's in the included pdf. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 24-Oct-2000 11:02:32-GMT,2285;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28072 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:02:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA15310 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:28:00 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA15307 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:27:57 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13o1RC-0002hg-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:36:10 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA20210 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:29:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13o1Jb-004wwRC; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:28:19 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:28:19 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: object type spec: Error in syntax specification? Message-ID: <20001024122819.X13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The latest manual has this: ---------- -> attr -> [ ] stream | [ ] file ---------- This would lead me to \pdfjobj attr {foo} stream {bar} which pdftex 14f doesn't like; it want's \pdfjobj stream attr {foo} {bar} The correct specification for this would be ---------- -> stream [ ] | file [ ] ---------- I think (I suppose the file-part is also reverse). Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 24-Oct-2000 11:15:58-GMT,2191;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28270 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:15:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA15291 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:06:33 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA15288 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:06:31 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13o16S-0002Sw-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:14:44 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA19979 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:08:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13o0za-004wwRC; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:07:38 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:07:38 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: How to get expansion in the argument of \pdfobj? Message-ID: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk [Sorry if this is a stupid question] Given this sequence ------ \pdfobj stream attr {/FunctionType 4} {{dup 0.84 mul}} \pdfrefobj \pdflastobj \pdfobj {/Separation /LogoGreen /DeviceCMYK \pdflastobj 0 R} \pdfrefobj \pdflastobj ------ pdftex happily writes "\pdflastobj" into the second object instead of the number of the first object. How do I get the number into the object? Thanks in advance Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 24-Oct-2000 13:10:52-GMT,2243;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00419 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:10:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15454 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:30:04 -0400 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15451 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:30:02 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03994 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:32:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: pdftex list Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: <20001024113558.V13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Because it is in the font map, and pdftex is trying to make a new subset for it to save space. But this only makes sense if that font is also used for text or elsewhere in the document. Then you would have only one subset, instead of two or more. Perhaps the true test should be "make a new subset iff the font is used elsewhere *and* it is in the font map." Tom On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Martin Schröder wrote: > On 2000-10-19 13:30:26 -0400, Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > > The code on pdftex that takes care of fonts that are embedded in included PDF > > graphics does not care if the embedded font is CFF or not; if I recall > > correctly, pdftex examines the /Font and/or the /FontDescriptor objects to get > > the /FontName, stripes the 6 letter prefix if there is one, and the uses what > > remains to do the look up in the font maps. If that font is not there, then the > > font is copied at the end of the pdftex run. > > > > Since the font is in the fontmap, pdftex tries to make a new subset, but fails > > because the font is not available on the system. > > Why must it be? It's in the included pdf. > > Best regards > Martin > 24-Oct-2000 13:48:14-GMT,1925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01224 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:48:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15582 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:15:27 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15579 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:15:25 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23597; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:18:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA27151; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:18:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010241318.PAA27151@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: How to get expansion in the argument of \pdfobj? In-Reply-To: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= at "Oct 24, 0 12:07:38 pm" To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:18:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > [Sorry if this is a stupid question] > > Given this sequence > ------ > \pdfobj stream attr {/FunctionType 4} {{dup 0.84 mul}} > \pdfrefobj \pdflastobj > \pdfobj {/Separation /LogoGreen /DeviceCMYK \pdflastobj 0 R} > \pdfrefobj \pdflastobj > ------ > pdftex happily writes "\pdflastobj" into the second object > instead of the number of the first object. How do I get the > number into the object? probably some \the would help: \pdfobj {/Separation /LogoGreen /DeviceCMYK \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R} Thanh 24-Oct-2000 13:52:07-GMT,2196;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01274 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:52:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15574 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:11:33 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15571 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:11:31 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22970; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:14:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA26722; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:14:20 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010241314.PAA26722@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: object type spec: Error in syntax specification? In-Reply-To: <20001024122819.X13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= at "Oct 24, 0 12:28:19 pm" To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:14:20 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > The latest manual has this: > ---------- > -> attr > -> [ ] stream | [ ] file > ---------- > This would lead me to > \pdfjobj attr {foo} stream {bar} > which pdftex 14f doesn't like; it want's > \pdfjobj stream attr {foo} {bar} > > The correct specification for this would be > ---------- > -> stream [ ] | file [ ] > ---------- > I think (I suppose the file-part is also reverse). yes the manual needs an update. The syntax for \pdfobj looks like: \pdfobj (h, v, m) --> [stream []] --> | Thanh 24-Oct-2000 13:53:34-GMT,2309;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01309 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:53:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15594 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:20:18 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15591 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:20:17 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24229; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:23:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA27507; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:23:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010241323.PAA27507@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: How to debug the font usage of pdftex? In-Reply-To: <20001024113558.V13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= at "Oct 24, 0 11:35:58 am" To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:23:05 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > The code on pdftex that takes care of fonts that are embedded in included PDF > > graphics does not care if the embedded font is CFF or not; if I recall > > correctly, pdftex examines the /Font and/or the /FontDescriptor objects to get > > the /FontName, stripes the 6 letter prefix if there is one, and the uses what > > remains to do the look up in the font maps. If that font is not there, then the > > font is copied at the end of the pdftex run. > > > > Since the font is in the fontmap, pdftex tries to make a new subset, but fails > > because the font is not available on the system. > > Why must it be? It's in the included pdf. usually not the whole font, but a only subset is included. I mentioned in a previous mail to this list that in such cases it would be better to copy the font; I will look at it when I have time for it. pdftex cannot merge fonts in included pdf figures. Thanh 24-Oct-2000 14:01:00-GMT,2192;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01430 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:00:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15601 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:24:32 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15598 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:24:30 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13o4C3-0004HP-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:32:43 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA23076 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:27:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13o46V-004wwRC; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:26:59 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:26:59 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: object type spec: Error in syntax specification? Message-ID: <20001024152659.Y13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20001024122819.X13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200010241314.PAA26722@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010241314.PAA26722@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 03:14:20PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-24 15:14:20 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > yes the manual needs an update. The syntax for \pdfobj looks like: I wouldn't mind if you only kept the formal spec and the example up to date. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 24-Oct-2000 15:01:13-GMT,2338;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02808 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:01:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15677 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:13:03 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15674 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:13:00 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13o4wz-0004lv-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:21:13 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id QAA23529 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:08:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13o4jf-004wwRC; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:07:27 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:07:26 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: Separation Color Spaces (and LaTeX) Message-ID: <20001024160726.A13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de>; from ms@artcom-gmbh.de on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:09:28PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-23 12:09:28 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: > has anybody worked with Separation Color Spaces and pdfTeX? Maybe > even used them together with the LaTeX picture environment? Is it possible to add entries to the ColorSpace dict of the current resource dict (p. 85 of ref1.3)? This would be needed for color spaces other than rgb, cmyk and gray. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 24-Oct-2000 15:10:47-GMT,2047;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03053 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:10:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15690 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:22:32 -0400 Received: from gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu (GS231.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.194.105]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA15687 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:22:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:24:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Riley To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: How to get expansion in the argument of \pdfobj? In-Reply-To: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14837.39794.80742.559089@gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id KAA15688 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk \expandafter\pdfrefobj\pdflastobj should work. Martin Schröder writes: > [Sorry if this is a stupid question] > > Given this sequence > ------ > \pdfobj stream attr {/FunctionType 4} {{dup 0.84 mul}} > \pdfrefobj \pdflastobj > \pdfobj {/Separation /LogoGreen /DeviceCMYK \pdflastobj 0 R} > \pdfrefobj \pdflastobj > ------ > pdftex happily writes "\pdflastobj" into the second object > instead of the number of the first object. How do I get the > number into the object? > > Thanks in advance > Martin > -- > Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE > ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen > Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 -- Pat Riley Second Year Ph.D. Student Computer Science Department, Carnegie Mellon University 24-Oct-2000 15:16:18-GMT,2180;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03172 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15616 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:29:30 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15613 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:29:28 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13o4Gr-0004Jx-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:37:41 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA23133 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:31:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13o4A6-004wwRC; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:30:42 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:30:42 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: How to get expansion in the argument of \pdfobj? Message-ID: <20001024153042.Z13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <200010241318.PAA27151@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010241318.PAA27151@anxur.fi.muni.cz>; from thanh@informatics.muni.cz on Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 03:18:14PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-24 15:18:14 +0200, Han The Thanh wrote: > probably some \the would help: > > \pdfobj {/Separation /LogoGreen /DeviceCMYK \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R} Works. Thanks very much. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 24-Oct-2000 15:44:25-GMT,2433;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03938 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:44:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15706 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:32:11 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15703 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:32:08 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id QAA10035; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:33:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id QAA10831; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:33:50 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:33:50 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200010241433.QAA10831@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Reinhard Kotucha Cc: Prof Brian D Ripley , "White, George" , "'Daniel Weiss'" , pdfTeX Subject: RE: Missing new century schoolbook .pfb font files In-Reply-To: <200010202102.XAA22404@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> References: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FBFEF@MSGMARBIO05> <200010202102.XAA22404@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » Are you sure they are faked? I've heard that the free URW fonts are » identical to the Adobe fonts. Can anybody confirm that the metrics » and the glyphs are exactly the same for all 35 fonts? I can confirm the converse. the glyphs _look_ the same, the metrics _are_ the same as long as metrics only means advance widths. kern pairs _are_ different (so that the lig ffi in fontinst would have a different width whether in utm or ptm), you can safely use one glyph set with the metrics of the other, though. Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 24-Oct-2000 16:35:39-GMT,2218;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05395 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:35:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15810 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:40:59 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15807 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:40:55 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.122]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G2XYCW00.68T; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:43:44 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001024172659.01c65d20@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:26:59 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: How to get expansion in the argument of \pdfobj? Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA15808 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:07 PM 10/24/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >[Sorry if this is a stupid question] > >Given this sequence >------ >\pdfobj stream attr {/FunctionType 4} {{dup 0.84 mul}} >\pdfrefobj \pdflastobj >\pdfobj {/Separation /LogoGreen /DeviceCMYK \pdflastobj 0 R} >\pdfrefobj \pdflastobj >------ >pdftex happily writes "\pdflastobj" into the second object >instead of the number of the first object. How do I get the >number into the object? Since pdfTeX is like TeX, this is real basic TeX: \the\pdflastobj Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Oct-2000 17:44:23-GMT,2368;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07223 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:44:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15984 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:47:01 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15981 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:46:59 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.141.4]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G2Y1ES00.K4B; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:49:40 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:44:12 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Separation Color Spaces (and LaTeX) Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20001024160726.A13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id MAA15982 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 04:07 PM 10/24/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-10-23 12:09:28 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >> has anybody worked with Separation Color Spaces and pdfTeX? Maybe >> even used them together with the LaTeX picture environment? > >Is it possible to add entries to the ColorSpace dict of the >current resource dict (p. 85 of ref1.3)? This would be needed for >color spaces other than rgb, cmyk and gray. \pdfpageresources and all those 'resource' keys can be used for that. So you can build extstate dicts and so [which is needed for level 2 trickery]. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Oct-2000 17:54:09-GMT,2373;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07460 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:54:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA16001 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:59:35 -0400 Received: from relay2.flashnet.it (IDENT:root@libra.cyb.it [212.11.95.209]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15998 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:59:31 -0400 Received: from oemcomputer (ip118.pool-250.cyb.it [195.191.1.118]) by relay2.flashnet.it (EMS-RELAY/8.10.0) with SMTP id e9OH21w19989 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:02:01 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20001024191030.007d9e60@mbox2.flashnet.it> X-Sender: fn035144@mbox2.flashnet.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:10:30 +0200 To: PDF-TeX mailing list From: chiari mario Subject: Please help. Strange output. In-Reply-To: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id MAA15999 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, tis is my present problem. I have a picture.eps file. I have converted it to picture.pdf by epstopdf. Acrobat reader displays picture.pdf nicely. Although, if I embed it in a .tex file (say by \includegraphics{picture}) and pdflatex the file, then the picture is displayed in a weird way: all darkened, 99% unreadable. What is it going on? Is it a pdflatex issue? Any help is welcome Thanks mario At 12.07 24/10/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >[Sorry if this is a stupid question] > >Given this sequence >------ >\pdfobj stream attr {/FunctionType 4} {{dup 0.84 mul}} >\pdfrefobj \pdflastobj >\pdfobj {/Separation /LogoGreen /DeviceCMYK \pdflastobj 0 R} >\pdfrefobj \pdflastobj >------ >pdftex happily writes "\pdflastobj" into the second object >instead of the number of the first object. How do I get the >number into the object? > >Thanks in advance > Martin >-- > Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE > ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen > Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 > 24-Oct-2000 18:46:48-GMT,2163;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08952 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:46:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16060 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:38:31 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA16057 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:38:30 -0400 Received: from remote142-164.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.164] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13o84d-0002E5-00; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:41:20 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001024192641.09ef3810@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:26:41 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , PDF-TeX mailing list From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: How to get expansion in the argument of \pdfobj? In-Reply-To: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id NAA16058 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:07 24.10.2000 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >\pdfobj stream attr {/FunctionType 4} {{dup 0.84 mul}} >\pdfrefobj \pdflastobj >\pdfobj {/Separation /LogoGreen /DeviceCMYK \pdflastobj 0 R} >\pdfrefobj \pdflastobj >pdftex happily writes "\pdflastobj" into the second object >instead of the number of the first object. How do I get the >number into the object? \pdflastobj behaves like a counter, put \the before: \pdfobj{... \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R} An alternative to \pdfobj...\pdfrefobj\pdflastobj is \immediate\pdfobj... If you want to save spaces: \pdfobj{/Separation/LogoGreen/DeviceCMYK \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R} The object looks strange, perhaps it should be a dictionary? \pdfobj{<>} Yours sincerely Heiko 24-Oct-2000 20:48:30-GMT,2530;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12158 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:48:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16201 for pdftex-list; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:58:12 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16198 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:58:09 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA14568; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:00:59 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:00:59 +0200 Message-Id: <200010242000.WAA14568@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: chiari mario Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Please help. Strange output. In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20001024191030.007d9e60@mbox2.flashnet.it> References: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.5.32.20001024191030.007d9e60@mbox2.flashnet.it> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "chiari" == chiari mario writes: > Hello, tis is my present problem. > I have a picture.eps file. I have converted it to picture.pdf by > epstopdf. Acrobat reader displays picture.pdf nicely. > Although, if I embed it in a .tex file (say by > \includegraphics{picture}) and pdflatex the file, then the > picture is displayed in a weird way: all darkened, 99% > unreadable. > What is it going on? Is it a pdflatex issue? The most probable reason is that you are using a too old version of pdftex. The latest beta is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14g-pretest-20000912. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-2000 8:54:59-GMT,2333;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11242 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 02:54:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA17046 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:09:39 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA17043 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:09:37 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13oLku-0004Ob-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:17:52 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA03177 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:10:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13oLdF-004wwRC; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:09:57 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:09:57 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: Separation Color Spaces (and LaTeX) Message-ID: <20001025100957.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024160726.A13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 06:44:12PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-24 18:44:12 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > \pdfpageresources > > and all those 'resource' keys can be used for that. So you can build Where can I learn more about these keys? They are not in the manual... Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 25-Oct-2000 9:37:26-GMT,2150;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12059 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 03:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA17133 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 05:00:29 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA17130 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 05:00:27 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.230]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G2ZAHH01.Z9B; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:03:17 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001025091323.008e6790@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:13:23 +0200 To: Patrick Riley From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: How to get expansion in the argument of \pdfobj? Cc: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <14837.39794.80742.559089@gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu> References: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:24 AM 10/24/00 -0400, Patrick Riley wrote: >\expandafter\pdfrefobj\pdflastobj >should work. No, since \pdflastobj is a number, so \number\pdflastobj \the\pdflastobj and assignments like \count0=\pdflastobj all work ok. This has nothing to do with expansion. If you want to savea number for later use: \edef\savedobjectreference{\the\pdflastobj} can be used, Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-2000 11:50:03-GMT,2101;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14242 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 05:50:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA17321 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:09:48 -0400 Received: from stx69.demon.co.uk (IDENT:johnp@stx69.demon.co.uk [212.228.63.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17318 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:09:44 -0400 Received: from localhost (johnp@localhost) by stx69.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04695 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:13:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:13:52 +0100 (BST) From: John Palmer Reply-To: johnp@bcs.org.uk To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: \includegraphics Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Two questions from a pdf[La]TeX beginner: [1] When I run ordinary LaTeX, I know that my \includegraphics commands don't actually include the image in the dvi file, but merely an instruction to include the image, which will be honoured by dvips (or whatever I use to make the printed output). Consequently the named image-file must be available at the time of running dvips. What happens then when I run pdfLaTeX? Does pdflatex copy the whole image into the pdf file it generates, or does it only write an instruction? If the former, the image file must be available when I run pdflatex, if the latter, it must be available when I (or someone else) runs acroread (or whatever). I think it must be the former, or distribution of pdf files would be full of pitfalls, but I'd like to be quite sure :-) [2] Where can I read about the graphicx package and how it differs from graphics? Yours with thanks in anticipation, John Palmer 4 Horyford Close, Preston, Weymouth DT3 6DJ, England +44 1305 832240(office) 835410(domestic) johnp@bcs.org.uk http://www.stx69.demon.co.uk/ 25-Oct-2000 13:28:36-GMT,2299;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16129 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:28:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17397 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:50:16 -0400 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17394 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:50:14 -0400 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30459; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:51:30 +0100 Message-ID: <39F6D752.EAAFF368@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:51:30 +0100 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: johnp@bcs.org.uk CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: \includegraphics References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk John Palmer wrote: > What happens then when I run pdfLaTeX? Does pdflatex copy the whole image > into the pdf file it generates, or does it only write an instruction? If > the former, the image file must be available when I run pdflatex, if the > latter, it must be available when I (or someone else) runs acroread (or > whatever). > > I think it must be the former, or distribution of pdf files would be full > of pitfalls, but I'd like to be quite sure :-) You are absolutely right. As opposed to PDF, DVI has the notion of \special commands. Those are meant to be read by certain drivers whereas others ignore them. PDF, however, is a self-contained format. PDF files are meant to be shipped accross the net or displayed or printed from all kinds of applications. As a result, graphics inclusion had to be moved from the driver site (xdvi, dvips,...) into the pdfTeX engine. > [2] Where can I read about the graphicx package and how it differs > from graphics? The sgraphics package comes with classes and documentation for both. The only difference is that graphicx allows for more flexible options of the form key=value in commands like \includegraphics. Frank 25-Oct-2000 13:50:00-GMT,1446;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16538 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:49:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17440 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:14:06 -0400 Received: from sp2n17-t.missouri.edu (sp2n17-t.missouri.edu [128.206.2.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17437 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:14:04 -0400 Received: from [128.206.228.38] (Mizzou-AS-228038.missouri.edu [128.206.228.38]) by sp2n17-t.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA60148; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:16:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:15:01 -0500 To: johnp@bcs.org.uk From: Oscar Chavez Subject: Re: \includegraphics Cc: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >[2] Where can I read about the graphicx package and how it differs >from graphics? In the graphics package you'll find grfguide.tex which is titled 'Packages in the graphics bundle'. It describes in detail the differences between the two. 25-Oct-2000 14:01:29-GMT,1872;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16773 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17425 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:07:42 -0400 Received: from nova.kettering.edu (nova.kettering.edu [192.138.137.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17422 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:07:40 -0400 Received: from gaspra.kettering.edu (IDENT:root@gaspra.kettering.edu [198.110.4.97]) by nova.kettering.edu (8.10.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e9PDAW728535; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:mwicks@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gaspra.kettering.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA31183; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:10:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:10:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark A. Wicks" To: johnp@bcs.org.uk cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: \includegraphics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > What happens then when I run pdfLaTeX? Does pdflatex copy the whole > image into the pdf file it generates, or does it only write an > instruction? > I think it must be the former, or distribution of pdf files would be > full of pitfalls, but I'd like to be quite sure :-) Your reasoning is correct. It's the former (unless you work very hard to make it the latter). > [2] Where can I read about the graphicx package and how it differs > from graphics? [1] grfguide.[dvi,ps,tex] which comes with most LaTeX distributions. [2] The LaTeX Graphics Companion 25-Oct-2000 15:59:12-GMT,1448;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19750 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:59:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17639 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:22:05 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA17636 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:22:03 -0400 From: tim@maths.tcd.ie Subject: Re: \includegraphics In-Reply-To: <39F6D752.EAAFF368@cs.ucc.ie> from Frank Boehme at "Oct 25, 2000 01:51:30 pm" To: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:24:55 +0100 (BST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL49 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <200010251624.aa73605@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > [2] Where can I read about the graphicx package and how it differs > > from graphics? > > The sgraphics package comes with classes and documentation for both. The > only difference is that graphicx allows for more flexible options of the > form key=value in commands like \includegraphics. Perhaps one should explicitly mention grfguide -- available on teTeX (for example) as $TEXMF/doc/latex/graphics/grfguide.ps . (Also epslatex.ps at the same place.) 25-Oct-2000 16:36:11-GMT,1644;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20859 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:36:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17669 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:58:07 -0400 Received: from tamaris.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-12.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17666 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:57:47 -0400 Received: from andira.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.152) by tamaris.wanadoo.fr; 25 Oct 2000 18:00:24 +0200 Received: from [194.2.149.73] (194.2.149.73) by andira.wanadoo.fr; 25 Oct 2000 17:31:31 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: michel.bovani@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:30:28 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Michel Bovani Subject: Re: \includegraphics Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 9:10 -0400 25/10/00, Mark A. Wicks wrote: >> I think it must be the former, or distribution of pdf files would be >> full of pitfalls, but I'd like to be quite sure :-) > > Your reasoning is correct. It's the former (unless you work very hard >to make it the latter). BTW : could somebody explain me what I can obtain with \hyperimage ? In fact, I never use it, and, I hope never need it -) -- Michel Bovani 25-Oct-2000 16:43:07-GMT,2628;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21113 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:43:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17680 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:08:22 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17677 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:08:20 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.230]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G2ZU9N02.K72; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:10:35 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:41:38 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Separation Color Spaces (and LaTeX) Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20001025100957.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024160726.A13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id MAA17678 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:09 AM 10/25/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-10-24 18:44:12 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >> \pdfpageresources >> >> and all those 'resource' keys can be used for that. So you can build > >Where can I learn more about these keys? They are not in the >manual... search for "resources spec" and for what goes in there consult the pdf spec. If you want to play with low level pdf, like objects and so, it really makes sense to read everything available first (pdftex manual, pdf spec, etc). For instance, I'm sure that a quick grep for "\pdflastobj" and alike on for instance the latex packages that you use will reveal answers like how to use these magic primitives. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Oct-2000 16:53:16-GMT,2019;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21472 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:53:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17691 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:15:00 -0400 Received: from lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (lebesgue.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17688 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:14:54 -0400 Received: from leray.math.univ-nantes.fr (IDENT:root@leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.2]) by lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id SAA22619 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:17:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (depauw@localhost) by leray.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id SAA21385 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:17:43 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr: depauw owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:17:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Nicolas Depauw X-Sender: depauw@leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: eepic, tpic Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Does exist a package that enables the use of macros from the eepic package (wich allow to describe figures in the LaTeX source document, but pass this description to the driver by means of \special commands from the tpic set) with pdflatex ? I've read something like that in the pdf manual, but I don't find this anywhere. Nicolas DEPAUW (bureau 031) Mathematiques tel : (33) 02 51 12 59 46 2 rue de la Houssiniere fax : (33) 02 51 12 59 12 BP 92208 http://www.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr/~depauw F-44322 NANTES CEDEX 03 25-Oct-2000 15:41:55-GMT,2612;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19336 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:41:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17595 for pdftex-list; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:59:39 -0400 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17592 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:59:36 -0400 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13oS9W-0008Tl-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:07:42 +0200 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA08829 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:01:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13oS2c-004wwRC; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:00:34 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:00:34 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: How to get expansion in the argument of \pdfobj? Message-ID: <20001025170034.J13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <14837.39794.80742.559089@gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu> <3.0.6.32.20001025091323.008e6790@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001025091323.008e6790@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 09:13:23AM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-25 09:13:23 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > No, since \pdflastobj is a number, so > > \number\pdflastobj > \the\pdflastobj > > and assignments like > > \count0=\pdflastobj > > all work ok. This has nothing to do with expansion. If you want to savea > number for later use: > > \edef\savedobjectreference{\the\pdflastobj} > > can be used, Next hurdle: How to get it inside the argument of \pdfpageresources? \the\pdflastobj is simply not expanded. Thanks in advance Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 26-Oct-2000 8:51:43-GMT,2501;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13293 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:51:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18877 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:16:10 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18874 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:16:09 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.141.45]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3133T00.EE7; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:19:05 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001026092138.01a3e720@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:21:38 +0200 To: Nicolas Depauw From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: eepic, tpic Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 06:17 PM 10/25/00 +0200, Nicolas Depauw wrote: >Does exist a package that enables the use of macros from >the eepic package (wich allow to describe figures in the >LaTeX source document, but pass this description to >the driver by means of \special commands from the tpic set) >with pdflatex ? > >I've read something like that in the pdf manual, >but I don't find this anywhere. I have written some core that deals with it, both for tpic specials and for emtex specials. The emtex stuff is rather trivial but the tpic code needs a bit more embedding. Quite some time ago I have circulated the code to latex users who asked for it on this list, but they decided to switch to metapost instead. Because I don't use tpic specials myself and also don't use latex, i depend on others to make sure that it runs in latex. (Given that i have enough on my plate i'm not that motivated to spend hacking code i will never use myself -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-2000 8:51:55-GMT,2824;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13302 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:51:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18881 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:16:38 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18878 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:16:36 -0400 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.141.45]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3133Q01.6FF; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:19:02 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001026090922.01a3a5a0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:09:22 +0200 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: How to get expansion in the argument of \pdfobj? Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20001025170034.J13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001025091323.008e6790@pop.wxs.nl> <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <14837.39794.80742.559089@gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu> <3.0.6.32.20001025091323.008e6790@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id EAA18879 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 05:00 PM 10/25/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-10-25 09:13:23 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >> No, since \pdflastobj is a number, so >> >> \number\pdflastobj >> \the\pdflastobj >> >> and assignments like >> >> \count0=\pdflastobj >> >> all work ok. This has nothing to do with expansion. If you want to savea >> number for later use: >> >> \edef\savedobjectreference{\the\pdflastobj} >> >> can be used, > >Next hurdle: How to get it inside the argument of >\pdfpageresources? \the\pdflastobj is simply not expanded. \pdfoutput-=1 \edef\itsallinthetexbook% {\pdfpageresources{bla bla \the\pdflastobj}} \itsallinthetexbook text me \end After this, you will see that "bla bla 0" has ended up in the resources (actually its own object). Think of specials and writes where this kind of sync and expansion also needs special care. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-2000 8:52:47-GMT,1348;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13321 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:52:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18867 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:06:48 -0400 Received: from stx69.demon.co.uk (IDENT:johnp@stx69.demon.co.uk [212.228.63.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18864 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 04:06:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (johnp@localhost) by stx69.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA05128 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:43:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:43:02 +0100 (BST) From: John Palmer Reply-To: johnp@bcs.org.uk To: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: xpdf Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I can't find this program at the address given in the FAQ http://www.aimnet.com/~derekn/xpdf `` ~derekn not known on this host '' Has it moved, please ? Regards John Palmer 4 Horyford Close, Preston, Weymouth DT3 6DJ, England +44 1305 832240(office) 835410(domestic) johnp@bcs.org.uk http://www.stx69.demon.co.uk/ 26-Oct-2000 9:58:50-GMT,3347;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14464 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 03:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA18950 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 05:12:24 -0400 Received: from lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (lebesgue.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18947 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 05:12:22 -0400 Received: from leray.math.univ-nantes.fr (IDENT:root@leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.2]) by lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id LAA00483 ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:15:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (depauw@localhost) by leray.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id LAA22760 ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:15:14 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr: depauw owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:15:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Nicolas Depauw X-Sender: depauw@leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr To: Hans Hagen cc: Nicolas Depauw , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: eepic, tpic In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001026092138.01a3e720@pop.wxs.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I have written some core that deals with it, both for tpic specials and for > emtex specials. The emtex stuff is rather trivial but the tpic code needs a > bit more embedding. Quite some time ago I have circulated the code to latex > users who asked for it on this list, but they decided to switch to metapost > instead. I subscribe only recently to this list, only to find the solution to this problem. Is there extended archives for this list where I could find the code, and maybe some remark about it ? > Because I don't use tpic specials myself and also don't use latex, > i depend on others to make sure that it runs in latex. (Given that i have > enough on my plate i'm not that motivated to spend hacking code i will > never use myself -) I understand this well, and respect your choice. May be I could help for the tpic special. But where are they specified ? I only find a list of them by reading the source of xdvi program (file special.c) ! If I would find the code, I would it try on the small (but crucial for me) sample (20 pages of maths, with 6 figures), even if I know another way to achieve the result, by texing the figures one by one, producing for each of them .ps, .eps, and .pdf files, and including them, with paying some care to the position for mimiking the "normal" version. If the code is definitely lost, maybe the corresponding paragraph should be removed from the pdftex-manual. In this case, is there any translator from eepic style to metapost ? Nicolas DEPAUW (bureau 031) Mathematiques tel : (33) 02 51 12 59 46 2 rue de la Houssiniere fax : (33) 02 51 12 59 12 BP 92208 http://www.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr/~depauw F-44322 NANTES CEDEX 03 26-Oct-2000 11:52:31-GMT,3158;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16448 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 05:52:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA19054 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:09:12 -0400 Received: from stx69.demon.co.uk (IDENT:johnp@stx69.demon.co.uk [212.228.63.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19051 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:09:06 -0400 Received: from localhost (johnp@localhost) by stx69.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA07102 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:32:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:32:39 +0100 (BST) From: John Palmer Reply-To: johnp@bcs.org.uk To: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: tiff graphics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Many thanks to all who answered my rather basic query about how pdflatex includes graphics ! Now I read that pdflatex can use tiff graphics, and I would like to use them because in my application the images are nearly always available in tiff form: but when in pdflatex I specify \includegraphics{XXX.tif} ( or XXX.tiff ) I get something like this: [begin quotation] (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/ot1pcr.fd) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/omsppl.fd) [1] ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .tiff. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.69 \includegraphics{./image_a/afig001.tiff} ? [end quotation] Could someone please tell me what's adrift ? John Palmer 4 Horyford Close, Preston, Weymouth DT3 6DJ, England +44 1305 832240(office) 835410(domestic) johnp@bcs.org.uk http://www.stx69.demon.co.uk/ On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Mark A. Wicks wrote: > > > What happens then when I run pdfLaTeX? Does pdflatex copy the whole > > image into the pdf file it generates, or does it only write an > > instruction? > > > I think it must be the former, or distribution of pdf files would be > > full of pitfalls, but I'd like to be quite sure :-) > > Your reasoning is correct. It's the former (unless you work very hard > to make it the latter). > > > [2] Where can I read about the graphicx package and how it differs > > from graphics? > > [1] grfguide.[dvi,ps,tex] which comes with most LaTeX distributions. > [2] The LaTeX Graphics Companion > > 26-Oct-2000 11:59:21-GMT,2109;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16567 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 05:59:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA19068 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:21:08 -0400 Received: from lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (lebesgue.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19065 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:21:06 -0400 Received: from leray.math.univ-nantes.fr (IDENT:root@leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.2]) by lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id NAA04705 ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:24:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (depauw@localhost) by leray.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id NAA23227 ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:24:03 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr: depauw owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:24:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Nicolas Depauw X-Sender: depauw@leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr To: johnp@bcs.org.uk cc: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: xpdf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, John Palmer wrote: > I can't find this program at the address given in the FAQ > http://www.aimnet.com/~derekn/xpdf > `` ~derekn not known on this host '' > Has it moved, please ? I have found these two lines in the README file of my distribution : Email: derekn@foolabs.com WWW: http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ Nicolas DEPAUW (bureau 031) Mathematiques tel : (33) 02 51 12 59 46 2 rue de la Houssiniere fax : (33) 02 51 12 59 12 BP 92208 http://www.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr/~depauw F-44322 NANTES CEDEX 03 26-Oct-2000 12:37:43-GMT,1467;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17233 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 06:37:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA19092 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:58:54 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19089 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:58:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.11.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e9QC0rp30746; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:00:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu: cottrell owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:00:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell X-Sender: cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu To: John Palmer cc: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: xpdf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, John Palmer wrote: > I can't find this program at the address given in the FAQ > http://www.aimnet.com/~derekn/xpdf http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ -- Allin Cottrell Department of Economics Wake Forest University, NC 26-Oct-2000 16:47:28-GMT,2227;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23221 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:47:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19396 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:02:28 -0400 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19393 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:02:26 -0400 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA02985; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:05:22 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:05:22 +0200 Message-Id: <200010261605.SAA02985@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: johnp@bcs.org.uk Cc: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: tiff graphics In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "John" == John Palmer writes: > ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .tiff. The extension .tiff is not defined. If you rename it to .tif and get the same error message you probably have an old pdftex version (<14). If this is true the file pdftex.def might be out of date as well. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Oct-2000 19:15:14-GMT,1782;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27918 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:15:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19530 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:00:55 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19527 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:00:53 -0400 Received: from remote142-29.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.29] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13orNQ-0000n9-00; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:03:45 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001026182228.29c7b5e6@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:22:28 +0200 To: johnp@bcs.org.uk, pdfTeX mailing list From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: tiff graphics In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:32 26.10.2000 +0100, John Palmer wrote: >! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .tiff. pdftex.def supports the extension .tif as default. See for details (how to add .tiff): >> [1] grfguide.[dvi,ps,tex] which comes with most LaTeX distributions. >> [2] The LaTeX Graphics Companion Old versions of pdfTeX does not support TIFF files. The current versions are: pdfTeX 0.14f or 0.14g-pretest pdftex.def 2000/09/14 0.03e Yours sincerely Heiko 26-Oct-2000 19:32:42-GMT,2394;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28402 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:32:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19585 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:41:10 -0400 Received: from cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [142.176.61.253]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19582 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:41:09 -0400 Received: id PAA00289; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:41:52 -0300 Received: by gateway id <0G310036OVWR74@bionet.bio.dfo.ca> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:41:15 -0300 (ADT) Received: by gateway ??? Received: by gateway id <4JWPRWZW>; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:41:21 -0300 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:41:08 -0300 From: "White, George" Subject: RE: tiff graphics To: "'johnp@bcs.org.uk'" , pdfTeX mailing list Message-id: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FBFF7@MSGMARBIO05> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I think you need to use a 3-letter extension (.tif). You should also know that the TIFF format is infinitely extensible, so you may still find that pdftex cannot handle your particular kind of TIFF's. If you use indexed color and don't want JPEG compression, then the PNG format is likely to be more robust, and is not subject to the problems with Unisys patents that affect GIF and LZW compressed TIFF's. > -----Original Message----- > From: John Palmer [SMTP:johnp@stx69.demon.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:33 AM > To: pdfTeX mailing list > Subject: Re: tiff graphics > > Many thanks to all who answered my rather basic query about how pdflatex > includes graphics ! > > Now I read that pdflatex can use tiff graphics, and I would like to use > them because in my application the images are nearly always available in > tiff form: but when in pdflatex I specify \includegraphics{XXX.tif} ( or > XXX.tiff ) I get something like this: > > ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .tiff. > > Could someone please tell me what's adrift ? > > John Palmer > 4 Horyford Close, Preston, Weymouth DT3 6DJ, England > +44 1305 832240(office) 835410(domestic) > johnp@bcs.org.uk > 26-Oct-2000 21:38:21-GMT,1455;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02406 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:38:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA19701 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:29:24 -0400 Received: from gw.gbch.net (92h5ic@gw.gbch.net [203.24.22.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA19698 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:29:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 57636 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Oct 2000 06:32:13 +1000 X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 2.06 15-Sep-2000 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:32:13 +1000 From: Greg Black To: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: tiff graphics References: <200010261605.SAA02985@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> In-reply-to: <200010261605.SAA02985@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> of Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:05:22 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .tiff. > > The extension .tiff is not defined. If this is true, it needs to be fixed. -- Greg Black 26-Oct-2000 23:27:05-GMT,2233;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04967 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19810 for pdftex-list; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:35:04 -0400 Received: from nagmx1.nag.co.uk (nagmx1e.nag.co.uk [62.232.54.130]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19807 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:35:03 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@hereford.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.112]) by nagmx1.nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16262; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:37:20 +0100 (BST) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00875; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:45:54 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:45:54 GMT Message-Id: <200010262345.XAA00875@nag.co.uk> X-Authentication-Warning: hereford.nag.co.uk: davidc set sender to davidc@nag.co.uk using -f From: David Carlisle To: gjb@gbch.net CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: (message from Greg Black on Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:32:13 +1000) Subject: Re: tiff graphics References: <200010261605.SAA02985@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > If this is true, it needs to be fixed. It only needs to be fixed if it's a bug. the documentation shows how to define arbitrary extensions, so anyone who needs a particlar one can easily have it by declaring th eextension with a one line declaration. Having too many extensions defined has a real cost, as tex really tries to open each one on the file system until it finds the file, this is slow and consumes string pool that is not released. Adding tiff to the default list will make some documents that currently work, fail to complete since they'll run out of string memory. Admittedly editing texmf.cnf will make a larger pdftex, but still it isn't at all clear that increasing the number of extensions in the default list is, in general, a good thing. David 27-Oct-2000 4:56:39-GMT,1770;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA11462 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:56:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20417 for pdftex-list; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:09:12 -0400 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.115]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20414 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:08:58 -0400 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (root@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA05848; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:44:46 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:cvr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01485; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:35:00 +0530 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:35:00 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Greg Black cc: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: tiff graphics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Greg Black wrote: : > > ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .tiff. : > : > The extension .tiff is not defined. : : If this is true, it needs to be fixed. Will this not solve the problem: \DeclareGraphicsRule{.tiff}{tif}{.tiff}{} -- Radhakrishnan ------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 208E F5EB A4B4 2024 AEE9 575D 13DE E3B9 0292 70EF GPG Public key : http://www.river-valley.com/gpg/cvr.gpg 27-Oct-2000 9:44:35-GMT,2874;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA16751 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:44:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA20652 for pdftex-list; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:42:18 -0400 Received: from ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.211.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA20649 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:42:16 -0400 Received: from isidor.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (isidor [129.69.215.208]) by ifi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (8.9.3/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA13019; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:43:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from raichle@localhost) by isidor.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (8.8.8/2.2) id KAA13725; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:45:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bernd Raichle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <14841.16535.928037.144172@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:45:11 +0200 (MET DST) To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: How to get expansion in the argument of \pdfobj? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001026090922.01a3a5a0@pop.wxs.nl> References: <3.0.6.32.20001025091323.008e6790@pop.wxs.nl> <20001024120738.W13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <14837.39794.80742.559089@gs231.sp.cs.cmu.edu> <3.0.6.32.20001026090922.01a3a5a0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id EAA20650 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thursday, 26 October 2000 09:09:22 +0200, Hans Hagen writes: > At 05:00 PM 10/25/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: > >On 2000-10-25 09:13:23 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: [...] > >Next hurdle: How to get it inside the argument of > >\pdfpageresources? \the\pdflastobj is simply not expanded. > > \pdfoutput-=1 > > \edef\itsallinthetexbook% > {\pdfpageresources{bla bla \the\pdflastobj}} > > \itsallinthetexbook > > text me > > \end > > After this, you will see that "bla bla 0" has ended up in the resources > (actually its own object). Think of specials and writes where this kind of > sync and expansion also needs special care. Definitely. And if one wants only the expansion of \pdflastobj without expanding the whole argument of \pdfpageresources one can use some macro ``tricks'' shuffling and expanding arguments: \def\foo#1#2{% #1/#2: pre/postfix text \expandafter\dofoo\expandafter{\the\pdflastobj}{#1}{#2}} \def\dofoo#1#2#3{% #1: \pdflastobj, expanded #2/#3: pre/postfix \pdfpageresources{#2#1#3}}% and you can call \foo{before}{after} with the text to be put before and after the expanded \pdflastobj in the argument of \pdfpageresources. -bernd 27-Oct-2000 10:30:41-GMT,1451;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA17534 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:30:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA20698 for pdftex-list; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:43:35 -0400 Received: from stx69.demon.co.uk (IDENT:johnp@stx69.demon.co.uk [212.228.63.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20695 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 05:43:31 -0400 Received: from localhost (johnp@localhost) by stx69.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA09412 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:39:48 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:39:48 +0100 (BST) From: John Palmer Reply-To: johnp@bcs.org.uk To: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: tiff: thanks Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to all who answered my question on tiff images. The problem was clearly that I was using v.13c of pdftex; but you've reminded me of other problems with tiffs, so I shall probably convert to png. Thanks also to those who helped me find xpdf. Regards John Palmer 4 Horyford Close, Preston, Weymouth DT3 6DJ, England +44 1305 832240(office) 835410(domestic) johnp@bcs.org.uk http://www.stx69.demon.co.uk/ 27-Oct-2000 14:22:10-GMT,1707;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21601 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:22:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20974 for pdftex-list; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:41:28 -0400 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20971 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:41:25 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id PAA03542 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:43:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id PAA18642; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:43:54 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:43:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200010271343.PAA18642@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdfTeX liste Subject: pslatex suggestion X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk What about a cmtt option to pslatex (or a pdflatex.sty with cmtt instead of pcr)? the current tetex doesn't support * pslatex (courier narrow impossible) * mathptmx (slanted symbol impossible) * ni mathptm (zapf chancery non resident) or an upslatex+mathptmx using urw clones? Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX 27-Oct-2000 14:48:24-GMT,2971;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22211 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:48:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA21014 for pdftex-list; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:11:18 -0400 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21011 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:11:16 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16979 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:14:45 +0200 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc6.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.196]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16899 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:14:41 +0200 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09069 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:11:09 +0200 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:11:08 +0200 (MEST) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: objects within bitmaps Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Consider as a simple example a bitmap called 'people.png', which is labeled in the following way: \begin{picture}(0,0) \put(2,-8.5){\includegraphics[width=10cm,height=8.5cm]{people.png}} \put(-1,0.5){\Huge{Famous People}} \pause \put(-1,-1){\Large Bill Clinton} \pause \put(4,-0.5){\Large George Bush} \end{picture} After sending this through pdflatex and ppower4 I get a presentation slide for acrobat reader, that will label different sections of the bitmap one after the other at successive presses of the keyboard. Now my 3 questions: 1) Can I get the first label ('Bill Clinton') to vanish, when the second label ('George Bush') comes up? 2) Can I put objects other than text onto the bitmap, for example arrows or dashed lines? 3) The coordinates for put where found by 'hand testing'. This is no longer feasible, if I would need exact positioning - say of a curved object onto a contour within the bitmap. I found, this could be done visually by using XFIG. But there seems no export format from XFIG to find the exact 'put coordinates' to produce the above stepwise labeled bitmap. Just imagine a bitmap within a PDF file, where at one press of the button the bitmap is labeled by a group of objects, that will be replaced by other labeling objects at the next press of the button (like in Powerpoint). Is there a way achieving this using PDFLATEX and - let's say - SEMINAR? Or would I have to learn CONTEXT for this (surely a great language, but yet another TEX dialect)? Thanks for any comment, Herbert 29-Oct-2000 16:28:17-GMT,1460;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16771 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:28:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24879 for pdftex-list; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 10:11:42 -0500 Received: from doraemon.bu.edu (root@DORAEMON.BU.EDU [128.197.128.77]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24876 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 10:11:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (yrchen@localhost) by doraemon.bu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07042 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 10:17:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: doraemon.bu.edu: yrchen owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 10:17:51 -0500 (EST) From: Ying-Jui Chen To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Creating optimized ( linearized, or byteserving) PDF? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, This has been discussed a while back. However, the solution to create a linearized or optimized PDF file is not that direct to me: one has to open the PDF file using exchange and then save as "optimized." Question: can one place some pdflatex command in the .tex file so that the resulting pdf file created by pdflatex is already optimized? Thanks a lot! Ying Jui Chen 29-Oct-2000 17:18:40-GMT,2439;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17787 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 10:18:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24921 for pdftex-list; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:08:15 -0500 Received: from mailproxy.de.uu.net (mailproxy.de.uu.net [192.76.144.34]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24918 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:08:13 -0500 Received: from gmx.de (pec-160-106.tnt9.b2.uunet.de [149.225.160.106]) by mailproxy.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id RAA16714; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:11:21 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <39FC4C1F.699690FD@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:11:11 +0100 From: Tobias Burnus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ying-Jui Chen , "pdftex@tug.org" Subject: Re: Creating optimized ( linearized, or byteserving) PDF? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Ying-Jui Chen, > This has been discussed a while back. However, the solution to create a > linearized or optimized PDF file is not that direct to me: one has to open > the PDF file using exchange and then save as "optimized." Question: can > one place some pdflatex command in the .tex file so that the resulting pdf > file created by pdflatex is already optimized? This is not possible since it requires a second pass of that PDF file. Since you have Acrobat you are probably not interested in this: Ghostscript 6.20+ contains a script pdfopt or pdfopt.bat which does exactly this job. (Well, not exactly, Adobe Acrobat Reader doesn't recognise these files as being linearized; I don't think this has been fixed by now. See http://sourceforge.net/projects/ghostscript) The question is: Do you really need to have linearized files? If they are large and presented on the web (and not linear themselve (i.e. you can jump accross the document without needing to read every page)) it makes sense. But for short documents or for those which are not accessed through a slow line (internet lines can be expected to be slow, intranet lines not) I wouldn't bother since you not even save harddisk space! Tobias 30-Oct-2000 9:08:18-GMT,2743;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05004 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:08:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA25942 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:30:09 -0500 Received: from Chipp-Inet.westsig.co.uk ([194.202.152.199]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA25939 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:30:03 -0500 From: david.waller@westsig.co.uk Subject: Re: objects within bitmaps To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:28:23 +0000 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Chipp-Inet/SRV/WSL/Rail(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 10/30/2000 08:34:24 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk One way to make the previous label vanish is to overwrite it with the background and foreground colour the same. Dave W "Verwalter Dr.Betz" @tug.org on 27/10/2000 15:11:08 Sent by: owner-pdftex@tug.org To: pdftex@tug.org cc: Subject: objects within bitmaps Consider as a simple example a bitmap called 'people.png', which is labeled in the following way: \begin{picture}(0,0) \put(2,-8.5){\includegraphics[width=10cm,height=8.5cm]{people.png}} \put(-1,0.5){\Huge{Famous People}} \pause \put(-1,-1){\Large Bill Clinton} \pause \put(4,-0.5){\Large George Bush} \end{picture} After sending this through pdflatex and ppower4 I get a presentation slide for acrobat reader, that will label different sections of the bitmap one after the other at successive presses of the keyboard. Now my 3 questions: 1) Can I get the first label ('Bill Clinton') to vanish, when the second label ('George Bush') comes up? 2) Can I put objects other than text onto the bitmap, for example arrows or dashed lines? 3) The coordinates for put where found by 'hand testing'. This is no longer feasible, if I would need exact positioning - say of a curved object onto a contour within the bitmap. I found, this could be done visually by using XFIG. But there seems no export format from XFIG to find the exact 'put coordinates' to produce the above stepwise labeled bitmap. Just imagine a bitmap within a PDF file, where at one press of the button the bitmap is labeled by a group of objects, that will be replaced by other labeling objects at the next press of the button (like in Powerpoint). Is there a way achieving this using PDFLATEX and - let's say - SEMINAR? Or would I have to learn CONTEXT for this (surely a great language, but yet another TEX dialect)? Thanks for any comment, Herbert 30-Oct-2000 9:17:46-GMT,1462;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05165 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:17:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA25963 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:43:30 -0500 Received: from locmr1001.ac.com (LOCMR1001.ac.com [212.161.27.70]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA25960 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:43:29 -0500 From: miguel.angel.garcia.garcia@ac.com Received: from emehm1102.ac.com (emehm1102.ac.com [10.136.100.147]) by locmr1001.ac.com (Switch-2.0.1/Switch-2.0.1) with ESMTP id e9U8k6R00470 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:46:06 GMT Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Subject: TIPA font To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:38:49 +0100 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on EMEHM1102(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 30/10/2000 08:40:37 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi every body, i want to use some international phonetic alphabet symbols in a document, so I searched CTAN sites for such font and I found the *.mf, *.tfm, and some other files of the tipa font, but I need the *.pfb files to use them with pdf(La)TeX. Could anyone say me how to find or to create those archives? Thaks in advance. 30-Oct-2000 9:42:27-GMT,1128;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05556 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:42:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA26008 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 04:08:10 -0500 Received: from www38.gmx.net (www38.gmx.net [213.165.64.88]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA26005 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 04:08:07 -0500 Received: (qmail 1120 invoked by uid 0); 30 Oct 2000 09:10:50 -0000 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:10:50 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Edelmann To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: How to unsubscribe??? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0002345314@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.138.37.46] Message-ID: <1108.972897050@www38.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk please help. -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net 30-Oct-2000 11:30:51-GMT,1909;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07251 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 04:30:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA26110 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 05:55:52 -0500 Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA26107 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 05:55:49 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id LAA02843 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:58:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id LAA15901; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:58:30 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:58:30 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200010301058.LAA15901@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: "pdftex@tug.org" Subject: Re: Creating optimized ( linearized, or byteserving) PDF? In-Reply-To: <39FC4C1F.699690FD@gmx.de> References: <39FC4C1F.699690FD@gmx.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » The question is: Do you really need to have linearized files? definitely yes: you download only what you're looking at (imagine you asked htt..../file.pdf#page.1064) and moreover acrobat will display it faster, using surrogate fonts. This of course doesn't apply to short notes. Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 30-Oct-2000 14:28:12-GMT,2619;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10394 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:28:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA26291 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:44:45 -0500 Received: from gatesrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.11.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26288 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:44:43 -0500 Received: from kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (kommsrv [137.193.10.8]) by gatesrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10159 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:24:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from [137.193.225.217] (sauron.ET.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.225.217]) by kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA08464 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:24:07 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200010301324.OAA08464@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Subject: \hyperlink{}{} within \caption{} Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:23:57 +0100 x-sender: e31bmaci@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Stefan Afting To: "pdforg" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id IAA26289 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have the following problem. Using \hyperlink{}{} within a \caption{} command gives the following error: >... >... >... > > > >! Argument of \@caption has an extra }. > > \par >l.400 etched optical grating} < >? q >OK, entering \batchmodeElapsed time = 25.9 sec. I used both commands like this: >\begin{figure}[hbt] > \centering > \includegraphics[scale=0.5]{REM2-Ausschnitt.pdf} > \caption{REM of a \hyperlink{pdf.subsubsec.trockenaetzen}{RIE} > etched optical grating} > \label{fig:rem} >\end{figure} Within normal text \hyperlink{}{} works fine. Just inside captions it doesn't. Any ideas? Thanks Stefan Stefan Afting | Universität der Bundeswehr Muenchen stefan.afting@unibw-muenchen.de | Institut fuer Nachrichtentechnik | 85577 Munich, Germany | fon +49 89 6004-3928 | fax +49 89 6004-3641 30-Oct-2000 14:47:24-GMT,2281;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10710 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:47:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA26327 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:11:04 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26324 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:11:01 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13qFmh-0005Jc-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:19:35 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA09000 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:13:04 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13qFg8-004wwRC; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:12:48 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:12:48 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdforg Subject: Re: \hyperlink{}{} within \caption{} Message-ID: <20001030151248.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdforg References: <200010301324.OAA08464@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010301324.OAA08464@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de>; from stefan.afting@UniBw-Muenchen.de on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 02:23:57PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-30 14:23:57 +0100, Stefan Afting wrote: > I have the following problem. Using \hyperlink{}{} within a > \caption{} command gives the following error: Use the optional argument of \caption \caption[foo]{\hyperlink{foo}{bar} bar} Or do you really want the hyperlink in the list of figures? Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 30-Oct-2000 19:10:12-GMT,2030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17835 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:10:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26653 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:20:16 -0500 Received: from gatesrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.11.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26650 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:20:13 -0500 Received: from kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (kommsrv [137.193.10.8]) by gatesrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19126; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:28:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from [137.193.225.217] (sauron.ET.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.225.217]) by kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA11643; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:27:59 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200010301727.SAA11643@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Subject: Re: \hyperlink{}{} within \caption{} Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:27:49 +0100 x-sender: e31bmaci@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Stefan Afting To: "Martin Schr=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=f6der?=" , "pdforg" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id NAA26651 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >Use the optional argument of \caption > \caption[foo]{\hyperlink{foo}{bar} bar} > >Or do you really want the hyperlink in the list of figures? You are right! Thanks for your help. Stefan Stefan Afting | Universität der Bundeswehr Muenchen stefan.afting@unibw-muenchen.de | Institut fuer Nachrichtentechnik | 85577 Munich, Germany | fon +49 89 6004-3928 | fax +49 89 6004-3641 30-Oct-2000 20:20:46-GMT,2213;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19849 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:20:44 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26750 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:44:23 -0500 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26747 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:44:21 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA11426 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:47:35 +0100 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc2.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.192]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11340 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:47:30 +0100 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18412 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:43:44 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:43:43 +0100 (MET) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: objects within bitmaps In-Reply-To: <200010272132.IAA13436@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Ross Moore wrote: > > \begin{picture}(0,0) > > \put(2,-8.5){\includegraphics[width=10cm,height=8.5cm]{people.png}} > > \pause > > \put(-1,-1){\Large Bill Clinton} > > \end{picture} > > > Have a look at some of the example documents at: > > http://ls1-www.cs.uni-dortmund.de/~lehmke/texpower/gallery > Thanks for your quick answers. I had hoped, I could derive the above "picture put coordinates" with the visual help of XFIG and not by "hand testing" ... Moreover I was not successful in downloading the texpower manual (texpower.zip 1.6M of which I can get only 1M) from ls1-www.cs.uni-dortmund... Is it mirrored somewhere else? Why is it not on CTAN? Thanks a lot, Herbert 30-Oct-2000 21:30:24-GMT,1390;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21764 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:30:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26852 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:43:33 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26849 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:43:30 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA27096 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:46:44 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA10861 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:46:44 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200010302046.VAA10861@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: how to change size of GoToPage dialog To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:46:44 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, does anyone know how to change the dimensions of the GoToPage dialog of Acrobat Reader (Menu -> Document -> Go To Page) on unix? Thanh 30-Oct-2000 21:31:48-GMT,1758;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21791 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:31:47 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26861 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:44:53 -0500 Received: from freebsd.pkt.com.pl ([212.160.117.142]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26858 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:44:49 -0500 Received: from stas ([10.0.0.27]) by freebsd.pkt.com.pl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id VAA22051 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:45:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stas@pkt.pl) Message-ID: <000b01c042b2$4f310b40$1b00000a@pkt.pl> From: =?iso-8859-2?B?U3Rhbmlzs2F3IFJvbWHxc2tp?= To: Subject: fonts in outlines Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:45:14 +0100 Organization: Polskie Ksiazki Telefoniczne MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2417.2000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Can I control the fonts used by AcroRead while showing outlines (bookmarks) ? Acrobat documentation states that under UNIX one may specify two variables 'bookmarkFontName' and 'bookmarkFontSize'; this suggests these items are left to Reader choice. - Is it possible to force (inside PDF file) a particular font and size ? - Is it possible to control it under Win in any way ? Thanks in advance for any clue, Stanislaw Romanski Institute for Scientific, Technical and Economic Information Warsaw, Poland romanski@iinte.edu.pl 31-Oct-2000 0:24:56-GMT,1943;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26468 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:24:55 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27220 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:50:25 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27217 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:50:23 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13qOkC-0001t8-00; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:53:36 +0000 Received: from max1.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.1] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13qOkE-0001uT-00; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:53:39 +0000 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14846.6518.293851.393735@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 00:59:34 +0000 (GMT) To: kla@fh-landshut.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: objects within bitmaps In-Reply-To: References: <200010272132.IAA13436@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Verwalter Dr.Betz writes: > Moreover I was not successful in downloading the texpower manual > (texpower.zip 1.6M of which I can get only 1M) from > ls1-www.cs.uni-dortmund... > Is it mirrored somewhere else? Why is it not on CTAN? > because its author does not permit redistribution at present Sebastian Rahtz 31-Oct-2000 0:37:18-GMT,3821;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26815 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:37:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA27233 for pdftex-list; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:03:09 -0500 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27230 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:03:07 -0500 Received: from ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU (ipanema.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.137]) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01884; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:06:21 -0800 (PST) From: Paulo Ney de Souza Received: (from desouza@localhost) by ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06112; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:04:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:04:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200010310004.QAA06112@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> To: david@dcarlisle.demon.co.uk, pdftex@tug.org, psfrag@rascals.stanford.edu Subject: towards a PDFrag ... Cc: levy@math.berkeley.edu Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk We have used, here in Berkeley, a very nice packaged called GEOMPSFI, written by Silvio Levy as a derivative of PSFig, branched somewhere in the early 90's. The name, stands for the Geometry Center version of PSFig, and it allows one to carefully overlay LaTeX tags on top of a PS graphics with a simple syntax in a separate file (fig.lab) for each (fig.ps) PS file. It accomplishes something we have never been able to do quite well with the more powerful packages, like for example PSFrag, which are literally: -- Place a tag on a PS picture without having to re-generate it with tags. (like when you no longer have the sources for the figure). -- Place tags on PS files generated by tools that do not easily allow for tags placement, like for example, a picture that is generated within Mathematica and passed to POVRay for rendering ... The syntax is clear and simple and with a one-line (per tag) I can place nice tags like the ones you can see here: http://www.math.berkeley.edu/~desouza/test.ps Now we would like to make this package PDFTeX aware, to be able to see these nicely formatted tags on our PDF files, and the road seems not so simple. The old PSFig package from Trevor Darrell has died and literally being replaced by the "graphics/x" bundle which works fine under PDFTeX, but does not contain the TAG placement code. The component of GeomPSFi that does the TAG placement works fine under PDFTeX (kudos to Silvio that wrote this back in 1990 or so ...) but does not handle the PDF graphics inclusion. The fact that PSFrag is NOT PDFTeX aware complicates things further - I guess! The four solutions I see are: -- Fix the GeomPSFi to handle the PDFTeX specials. -- Ammend PSFrag to include the label-placing routines, and make it PDFTeX aware. -- Design another package (pslabels.sty) that will do the labels on top of graphics/x and that will conform to PDFTeX. -- Ammend the Graphics/X bundle to include the label-placing routines. The first one will solve our problem, but the solution will probably end up, again, not been widely used as it should. The second has been discussed in the PDFTeX mailing list a few times and Hans Hagen and Sebastian Rahtz considers it to be on the difficult side. The third is sort of nice, and we basically have it almost working and the forth is probably the most useful of them all. I have a chance to hold the author of GeomPSFi captive in my office this Wed :). Does anyone here has an opinion on how it should be handled ? I hope to have at least one full working solution before the weekend ... Paulo Ney de Souza 31-Oct-2000 8:39:28-GMT,2384;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06571 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 01:39:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27928 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 02:59:43 -0500 Received: from lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (lebesgue.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA27925 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 02:59:40 -0500 Received: from leray.math.univ-nantes.fr (IDENT:root@leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.2]) by lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id JAA20277 ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:02:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (depauw@localhost) by leray.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id KAA04972 ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:02:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr: depauw owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:02:56 +0100 (CET) From: Nicolas Depauw X-Sender: depauw@leray.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= cc: pdforg Subject: Re: \hyperlink{}{} within \caption{} In-Reply-To: <20001030151248.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Use the optional argument of \caption > \caption[foo]{\hyperlink{foo}{bar} bar} > > Or do you really want the hyperlink in the list of figures? If you do, setting the following switch \Hy@linktocpagetrue (wich defaults to false in the hyperref package) will use as anchor of the link in each entries of all the "list of" (tables, figures, and the table of contents) not the title/caption but the page number, allowing hyperlinks in the titles/captions. (In fact this works by redefining \contentsline) Unfortunately, this switch is not linked to any option of the package ! Nicolas DEPAUW (bureau 031) Mathematiques tel : (33) 02 51 12 59 46 2 rue de la Houssiniere fax : (33) 02 51 12 59 12 BP 92208 http://www.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr/~depauw F-44322 NANTES CEDEX 03 31-Oct-2000 9:04:13-GMT,2062;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06853 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 01:57:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA27945 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:12:25 -0500 Received: from id080.wkap.nl (id080.wkap.nl [195.169.64.28]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27942 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:12:23 -0500 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #43155) id <01JVZCVXFJCG9D7XPS@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:15:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from wkap.nl ([194.171.67.81]) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #43155) with ESMTP id <01JVZCVX44PC9D8XII@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:15:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:12:50 +0100 From: S2P development Subject: Re: TIPA font To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <39FE8D12.790AE95A@wkap.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk miguel.angel.garcia.garcia@ac.com wrote: > > Hi every body, > i want to use some international phonetic alphabet symbols in a document, > so > I searched CTAN sites for such font and I found the *.mf, *.tfm, and some > other > files of the tipa font, but I need the *.pfb files to use them with > pdf(La)TeX. > > Could anyone say me how to find or to create those archives? There are no pfb versions of the tipa fonts available. However, there are pfb files for the xipa fonts (also part of the tipa font set, but designed for use with times instead of computer modern). These are conversions of the *.mf sources of these fonts, and might already be on your harddisk. If they are not, they are on CTAN under fonts/tipa/beta0624/ps-type1/hoekwater. Greetings, Taco 31-Oct-2000 9:18:51-GMT,2482;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07219 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 02:18:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA28039 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:44:45 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28035 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:44:42 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13qX5I-0003qX-00; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:47:56 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13qX5J-00057H-00; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:47:57 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14846.34682.338650.974319@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:48:58 +0000 To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org, psfrag@rascals.stanford.edu, levy@math.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... In-Reply-To: <200010310004.QAA06112@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> References: <200010310004.QAA06112@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Paulo Ney de Souza writes: > The four solutions I see are: > > -- Fix the GeomPSFi to handle the PDFTeX specials. surely only the graphics inclusion? should be trivial (and should preferably call graphicx). > -- Ammend PSFrag to include the label-placing routines, and make it > PDFTeX aware. widely regarded as simply impossible > -- Design another package (pslabels.sty) that will do the labels on top > of graphics/x and that will conform to PDFTeX. not worth it > -- Ammend the Graphics/X bundle to include the label-placing routines. that would be a good idea, if graphicx were the subject of active development. but it is not. better if you or Silvio showed in geompsfi what you want, and got that stable and widely acceptted; then the latex core team might consider folding in your work. > I hope to have at least one full working solution before the weekend ... take geompsfi apart, throw away all of it that does graphics inclusion, and reference graphicx sebastian 31-Oct-2000 10:57:55-GMT,3399;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08916 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:57:54 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA28196 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 05:21:35 -0500 Received: from epsilon.dynaweb.de (epsilon.dynaweb.de [195.88.176.162]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA28193 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 05:21:33 -0500 Received: (qmail 64594 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2000 10:24:44 -0000 Received: from p3ee29459.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO servus) (62.226.148.89) by epsilon.dynaweb.de with SMTP; 31 Oct 2000 10:24:44 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c04324$c873f4a0$78e2fea9@servus> Reply-To: "Ulrich Dirr" From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "pdfTeX" Subject: [pdfTeX] Beginner question Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:24:18 +0100 Organization: Art & Satz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I wanted to experiment a little bit with PDFTeX and the HZ typesetting possibilities. So I installed the most recent fpTeX v0.4 with pdfTeX v0.14h. Made format files as recommended. Now I tried to compile the following test file (I've reduced everthing as small as possible): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- \documentclass{article} \pdfpagewidth=21cm \pdfpageheight=29.7cm %%% next lines as recommended by Thanh \input{protcode} \pdfprotrudechars=2 \AtBeginDocument{% \setprotcode\font } \begin{document} %%% text from SAMPLEPDF.TEX Ah! perhaps a burning match might be some good, if she could draw it from the bundle and strike it against the wall, just to warm her fingers. She drew one out---"scratch!" how it sputtered as it burnt! It gave a warm, bright light, like a little candle, as she held her hand over it. It was really a wonderful light. It seemed to the little girl that she was sitting by a large iron stove, with polished brass feet and a brass ornament. How the fire burned! and seemed so beautifully warm that the child stretched out her feet as if to warm them, when, lo! the flame of the match went out, the stove vanished, and she had only the remains of the half-burnt match in her hand. [...] \end{document} ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Everything compiled ok, but the PDF output was disappointing: Every line containing a punctuation sign at the right border not only protrudes this character but also at least one more character! Could you please tell me what I'm doing wrong? BTW I've read the doc and faq and Hans Hagen's "Does pdfTeX make things better?". I'm really interested in these features. Especially with Multiple Master fonts I would like to test them. What happens to my MM font when I use ... stretch x shrink y step z? Are the tfm's generated on the fly? Do I need to install the needed instances before? Regards, Ulrich Dirr -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) 31-Oct-2000 11:16:52-GMT,3452;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09245 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:16:51 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA28249 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 05:42:15 -0500 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28246; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 05:42:13 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.141.38]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3AJ7R02.FJ2; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:45:27 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001031093703.01a59ae0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:37:03 +0100 To: Paulo Ney de Souza From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... Cc: pdftex@tug.org, david@dcarlisle.demon.co.uk, pdftex@tug.org, psfrag@rascals.stanford.edu In-Reply-To: <200010310004.QAA06112@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 04:04 PM 10/30/00 -0800, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: > -- Place a tag on a PS picture without having to re-generate it with tags. > (like when you no longer have the sources for the figure). > > -- Place tags on PS files generated by tools that do not easily allow for > tags placement, like for example, a picture that is generated within > Mathematica and passed to POVRay for rendering ... I'm not familiar with the macro packages you mention so i may be wrong in my answer. I can imagine two methods for enhancing a ps figure with text typeset by tex: (1) overlay the tag by using tex; this is independent of any driver since all that tex has to do is a bit of shifting based on coordinates given; a complication may lay in the interaction between figure scaling and tag positioning but that's doable. (2) replacing text in a ps figure by redefining ps primitives to parse the labels [text strings] and replace them by ps snippets generated by tex; so here tags are used instead of coordinates; this method depends on postscript programming features As said, method 1 in independent of any driver and should work for any tex. Method 2 depends on ps programming and since there is no programming available in pdf [or more correct: only to a limited extend in certain areas] everything has to be handled by tex. So, in short, if method 2 is used, there is no (easy) way that pdftex can support it. That is not to say that I cannot imagien that there is no solution, since I can imagine that a bit of pdf parsing and form pasting can be a way out. You can check this by looking at the source code of your packages and as soon as you see much low level ps code ... you're in troubles. For the moment an acceptable way out is to process the figures independantly, convert them to pdf and embed them as such. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Oct-2000 15:57:49-GMT,2108;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14515 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:57:48 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28599 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:18:44 -0500 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28596 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:18:42 -0500 Received: (from desouza@localhost) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA18376; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:21:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:21:59 -0800 (PST) From: Paulo Ney de Souza Message-Id: <200010311521.HAA18376@math.berkeley.edu> To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... Cc: levy@math.berkeley.edu, pdftex@tug.org, psfrag@rascals.stanford.edu Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >From sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Tue Oct 31 00:48:02 2000 >From: Sebastian Rahtz >To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu >Cc: pdftex@tug.org, psfrag@rascals.stanford.edu, levy@math.berkeley.edu >Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... > > > -- Ammend the Graphics/X bundle to include the label-placing routines. > >that would be a good idea, if graphicx were the subject of active >development. but it is not. better if you or Silvio showed in geompsfi >what you want, and got that stable and widely acceptted; then the >latex core team might consider folding in your work. >sebastian Sebastian, I believe, if I understood you well, that the best solution would be to write an separate package, referencing the Graphics/X bundle... if so I have a question for you ...as to the paragraph above: Fold in what way ? Within the Graphics/X bundle ? I had the impression that David Carslile was maintaining the bundle not so long ago ... what is going on there ? Paulo Ney 31-Oct-2000 16:03:26-GMT,1788;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14680 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:03:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28612 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:29:42 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28609 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:29:40 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13qdPD-0005aQ-00; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:32:55 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13qdPE-0006w1-00; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:32:56 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14846.58981.104431.112019@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:33:57 +0000 To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu Cc: levy@math.berkeley.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... In-Reply-To: <200010311521.HAA18376@math.berkeley.edu> References: <200010311521.HAA18376@math.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Paulo Ney de Souza writes: > Fold in what way ? Within the Graphics/X bundle ? I had the impression > that David Carslile was maintaining the bundle not so long ago ... what > is going on there ? David maintains it, yes. he will fix bugs, but he is not *developing* it. Requests for feature enhancements are very likely to be given low priority Sebastian 31-Oct-2000 17:09:37-GMT,2247;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16835 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:09:36 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28694 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:23:37 -0500 Received: from nagmx1.nag.co.uk (nagmx1e.nag.co.uk [62.232.54.130]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28691 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:23:31 -0500 Received: from nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@hereford.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.112]) by nagmx1.nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21060; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:25:09 GMT Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01133; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:23:27 GMT Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:23:27 GMT Message-Id: <200010311623.QAA01133@nag.co.uk> X-Authentication-Warning: hereford.nag.co.uk: davidc set sender to davidc@nag.co.uk using -f From: David Carlisle To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu CC: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk, levy@math.berkeley.edu, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <200010311521.HAA18376@math.berkeley.edu> (message from Paulo Ney de Souza on Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:21:59 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... References: <200010311521.HAA18376@math.berkeley.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Fold in what way ? Within the Graphics/X bundle ? I had the impression > that David Carlisle was maintaining the bundle not so long ago ... what > is going on there ? adding new features to a package after all this time just creates compatibility problems with people having "old" versions of the package so rather than adding to graphic*.sty it's much better to make a new package that uses \RequirePackage{graphicx} and starts from there, then documents using the functionality are clearly marked. I assume that your package isn't like psfrag that gets the postscript interpretter to psoition the text based on the position of text in the original but rather provides a mechanism to overlay text? in whicch case you may want to compare with several other packages (overpic, ...) > psfrag@rascals.stanford.edu the psfrag list is dead. David 31-Oct-2000 17:17:46-GMT,1666;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17093 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:17:44 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28725 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:43:02 -0500 Received: from itcnt04.itc.nl (itcnt04.itc.nl [192.87.16.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28722 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:43:01 -0500 Received: by itcnt04.itc.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:53:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: Rolf de By To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Windows PDF browser plug-in problems Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:46:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, Subject line tells that this is not pdftex specific, sorry. But hope to draw a helpful comment from this knowledgeable audience. My largish PDF(tex) project in teaching (approx. 450 students reading the files through their (WINNT) net browsers) suffers from what I presume is a PDF plug-in problem. Error phenomena include incorrect history management ("back" button doesn't jump correctly across document boundaries), and crashing on large (>10 Mb) files. None of these problems are encountered when dealing with the files straight from Acro reader 4.0. Is there aynone knowing how to fix this situation while still using the plug-in? Rolf de By ITC The Netherlands 31-Oct-2000 17:36:30-GMT,1903;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17669 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:36:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28759 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:03:10 -0500 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28756 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:03:08 -0500 Received: from yuban-c.math.berkeley.edu (blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.58]) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24795; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:06:17 -0800 (PST) From: Paulo Ney de Souza Received: (from desouza@localhost) by yuban-c.math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02555; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:05:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:05:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200010311705.JAA02555@yuban-c.math.berkeley.edu> To: davidc@nag.co.uk, desouza@math.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... Cc: levy@math.berkeley.edu, pdftex@tug.org, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >From davidc@nag.co.uk Tue Oct 31 08:26:15 2000 >From: David Carlisle >To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu >Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... > >original but rather provides a mechanism to overlay text? in whicch case >you may want to compare with several other packages (overpic, ...) Great! Pointers to other packages ... I have never heard of overpic, and I'll check it out today ... does any other names come to your mind ? >> psfrag@rascals.stanford.edu > >the psfrag list is dead. > >David Maybe that should be fixed in the PSFrag documentation at CTAN right now! It still points people to the list ... Paulo Ney 31-Oct-2000 20:06:14-GMT,5682;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21797 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:06:12 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28888 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:01:50 -0500 Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr (matups.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28885 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:01:47 -0500 Received: from topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (topodyn.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.70]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.11.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e9VJ55s14508 ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:05:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from lcs@localhost) by topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA06015; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:05:05 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:05:05 +0100 (MET) From: Laurent Siebenmann Message-Id: <200010311905.UAA06015@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu, lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, levy@math.berkeley.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Paolo, In pdftex you want to: > -- Place a tag on a PS picture without having to re-generate it with tags. > (like when you no longer have the sources for the figure). > > -- Place tags on PS files generated by tools that do not easily allow for > tags placement, like for example, a picture that is generated within > Mathematica and passed to POVRay for rendering ... There is a package "labelfig.tex" on CTAN by me and Raymond Seroul that dates from the early 1990s, as does GEOMPSFI. (First version July 1991, current frozen(?) version Jan 1993.) It seems to include the essential consumer features of the latter plus some. However it is bootstrapping pure TeX and hence survives all the landslides in the Adobe world. There are at least two approaches to using it in the pdftex world. (1) PDF APPROACH. This builds a PDF with labels. Take the PDF file without labels and put it in a TeX box say \figbox occupying exactly the whole of a completely blank page of a 1-page pdftex document -- using your favorite graphics inclusion method (no matter which!!). Now "labelfig.tex" provides a semiinteractive environment for overlaying TeX labels on any TeX box, and the box can incidentally be resized without much disturbing your work. Here the box will be the 'bounding box' of the initial PDF file. The labelled PDF file is the result of pdftex'ing. (2) TEX APPROACH. First integrate the PDF files without labels into the pdftex typescript. Then use "labelfig.tex" to overlay labels onto each figure bounding box. Here the labels are morally part of a big typescript and individually labelled PDFs are never created. The same recipes, but with (E)PS in place of PDF, were design goals of "labelfig.tex". The arrival of pdftex merely imposes a prelim conversion (E)PS ==> PDF. Cheers Laurent Siebenmann PS. MY COMMENTS ON PREVIOUS COMMENTS: de Souza> -- Design another package (pslabels.sty) that will do the labels on top > of graphics/x and that will conform to PDFTeX. Rahtz> not worth it --- Because it has been done in a more genaral context (no dependency on graphics/x nor on PDFTeX). de Souza> I hope to have at least one full working solution before the weekend ... --- It's on CTAN and in your mailbox. Hagen> (1) overlay the tag by using tex; this is independent of > any driver since all that tex has to do is a bit of shifting based > on coordinates given; --- That is the "labelfig.tex" approach. > a complication may lay in the interaction between figure scaling > and tag positioning but that's doable. "labelfig.tex" solves the problem by using (a) global coordinates *intrinsic* to the box being overlaid. (b) the drawing pin concept for tacking the label onto the figure, the pin having both a position on the intrinsic grid and a position on the bb of the label (say top right). The combination of (a) and (b) give a large measure of stability under figure rescaling. Hagen> (2) replacing text in a ps figure by redefining ps > primitives to parse the labels [text strings] and replace > them by ps snippets generated by tex; so here tags are used > instead of coordinates; this method depends on postscript > programming features This approach is often used by journals that feel the need to improve the typography of figure labels, the idea being to do the label-upgrade on hundreds of figures with "eyes shut". This is an an impossible problem with neverthless a number of competing useful open-ended solutions. Contact Silvio Levy for one Colin Rourke for another (more recent) Both solutions are, if I recall, team efforts. You can find quite a bit of discussion on the archives of the EMJ (journals list) **************************************************************** * archive: http://math.albany.edu:8800/hm/emj/ * * glimpse index: http://nyjm.albany.edu:8000/SF/emjsearch.html * **************************************************************** in particular the posting > Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 07:31:35 +0200 > Subject: TeX in EPS figures where I mention a third method. Carlisle> it's much better to make a new package that uses > \RequirePackage{graphicx} and starts from there, then > documents using the functionality are clearly marked. Sigh. > you may want to compare with several other packages (overpic, ...) Indeed. LS 31-Oct-2000 23:54:18-GMT,1856;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27516 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:54:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29081 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:31:58 -0500 Received: from nagmx1.nag.co.uk (nagmx1e.nag.co.uk [62.232.54.130]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29078 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:31:55 -0500 Received: from nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@hereford.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.112]) by nagmx1.nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23627; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:33:28 GMT Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03959; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:31:47 GMT Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:31:47 GMT Message-Id: <200010312231.WAA03959@nag.co.uk> X-Authentication-Warning: hereford.nag.co.uk: davidc set sender to davidc@nag.co.uk using -f From: David Carlisle To: Laurent.Siebenmann@math.u-psud.fr CC: desouza@math.berkeley.edu, lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, levy@math.berkeley.edu, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <200010311905.UAA06015@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> (message from Laurent Siebenmann on Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:05:05 +0100 (MET)) Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... References: <200010311905.UAA06015@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Sigh. Not sure what the sigh was for. As you noted afterwards I did suggest looking at the available existing packages. But experience shows that adding new functionality to a standard package causes more problems than it solves, as \usepackage{xxxx} then means different things in different places. So if the existing packages aren't suitable, better to make a new package than to persuade me to add something to graphics.sty David 1-Nov-2000 0:31:46-GMT,2011;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28511 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:31:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29143 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:39:19 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA29140 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:39:16 -0500 Received: from remote142-177.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.177] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13ql2m-00000M-00; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:42:17 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001031222808.3b67f52a@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:28:08 +0100 To: =?iso-8859-2?B?U3Rhbmlzs2F3IFJvbWHxc2tp?= , From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: fonts in outlines In-Reply-To: <000b01c042b2$4f310b40$1b00000a@pkt.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 21:45 30.10.2000 +0100, =?iso-8859-2?B?U3Rhbmlzs2F3IFJvbWHxc2tp?= wrote: > >Can I control the fonts used by AcroRead while showing outlines (bookmarks) >? > >Acrobat documentation states that under UNIX one may specify two variables >'bookmarkFontName' and 'bookmarkFontSize'; this suggests these items are >left to Reader choice. >- Is it possible to force (inside PDF file) a particular font and size ? My experience is, that the documentation is wrong. My unix version only reacts on 'systemFont{Name,Size}' instead of 'bookmarkFont{Name,Size}'. >- Is it possible to control it under Win in any way ? It is very mysterious, especially, if you also want to use Unicode strings. (A test file of hyperref shows some artefacts.) Yours sincerely Heiko 1-Nov-2000 0:48:11-GMT,1629;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28865 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:48:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29133 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:39:01 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA29130 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:38:57 -0500 Received: from remote142-177.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.177] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13ql2j-00000M-00; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:42:13 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001031222111.3bf7d222@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:21:11 +0100 To: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: objects within bitmaps In-Reply-To: References: <200010272132.IAA13436@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 20:43 30.10.2000 +0100, Verwalter Dr.Betz wrote: >Moreover I was not successful in downloading the texpower manual >(texpower.zip 1.6M of which I can get only 1M) from >ls1-www.cs.uni-dortmund... You can try tools like "wget". After aborts you can try to continue downloading with "wget -c". Yours sincerely Heiko 1-Nov-2000 0:51:40-GMT,2314;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28925 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:51:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29171 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:04:04 -0500 Received: from mail.arcor-ip.de (mail-ffm-p.arcor-ip.de [145.253.2.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29168 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:04:01 -0500 Received: from box.home.de (145.253.188.14) by mail.arcor-ip.de; 1 Nov 2000 01:07:20 +0100 Received: from jochen by box.home.de with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13qk8R-0000XN-00; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 23:44:03 +0100 To: Paulo Ney de Souza Cc: david@dcarlisle.demon.co.uk, pdftex@tug.org, psfrag@rascals.stanford.edu, levy@math.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... References: <200010310004.QAA06112@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> User-Agent: XEmacs/Gnus X-Face: -%Z4EZ6iY'4m:wiK:!v In-Reply-To: Paulo Ney de Souza's message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:04:25 -0800 (PST)" Date: 31 Oct 2000 23:44:03 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "PNdS" == Paulo Ney de Souza writes: PNdS> -- Place a tag on a PS picture without having to re-generate it PNdS> with tags. (like when you no longer have the sources for the PNdS> figure). I routinely convert eps-Files (provided by colleagues) to fig-format by means of pstoedit. I change them to suit my needs using xfig, and convert them to combined tex/eps format. Using epstopdf and sed (to remove "\special") I convert that to combined tex/pdf. Works great for me so far:-) Jochen -- Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité GnuPG key: 44BCCD8E Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll 1-Nov-2000 1:11:15-GMT,1759;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29299 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:11:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29138 for pdftex-list; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:39:10 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA29135 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:39:07 -0500 Received: from remote142-177.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.177] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13ql2q-00000M-00; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:42:21 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001031223141.3b579090@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:31:41 +0100 To: Nicolas Depauw , Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: \hyperlink{}{} within \caption{} Cc: pdforg In-Reply-To: References: <20001030151248.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:02 31.10.2000 +0100, Nicolas Depauw wrote: >If you do, setting the following switch >\Hy@linktocpagetrue > >Unfortunately, this switch is not linked to any option of the package ! Option 'linktocpage'. (Sebastian has introduced this option at Thu Sep 03 21:16:47 1998 between versions 6.34 and 6.35. Yours sincerely Heiko