1-Nov-2000 8:11:39-GMT,1956;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA07416 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 01:11:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA29917 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 02:32:59 -0500 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.85]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29914 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 02:32:53 -0500 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (root@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA09374 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:46:38 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:cvr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01347 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:34:46 +0530 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:34:46 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... In-Reply-To: <200010311905.UAA06015@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Laurent Siebenmann wrote: : There is a package "labelfig.tex" on CTAN by me and Raymond Seroul : that dates from the early 1990s, as does GEOMPSFI. (First version : July 1991, current frozen(?) version Jan 1993.) It seems to : include the essential consumer features of the latter plus some. WARMreader.sty by Ross Moore and Wendy does this job precisely. You can relabel your graphics without any fuss and is supported by pdfTeX too. -- Radhakrishnan ------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 208E F5EB A4B4 2024 AEE9 575D 13DE E3B9 0292 70EF GPG Public key : http://www.river-valley.com/gpg/cvr.gpg 1-Nov-2000 9:49:29-GMT,2553;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA08851 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 02:49:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA30036 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 04:12:20 -0500 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA30033 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 04:12:17 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.119]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3C9P500.Z67; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 10:15:05 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001101090556.01ccae70@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 09:05:56 +0100 To: Rolf de By From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Windows PDF browser plug-in problems Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 05:46 PM 10/31/00 +0100, Rolf de By wrote: >Dear all, > >Subject line tells that this is not pdftex specific, sorry. But hope to >draw a helpful comment from this knowledgeable audience. > >My largish PDF(tex) project in teaching (approx. 450 students reading the >files through their (WINNT) net browsers) suffers from what I presume is a >PDF plug-in problem. Error phenomena include incorrect history management >("back" button doesn't jump correctly across document boundaries), and >crashing on large (>10 Mb) files. > >None of these problems are encountered when dealing with the files straight >from Acro reader 4.0. > >Is there aynone knowing how to fix this situation while still using the >plug-in? You may want to update to the latest version of the reader; 4.05 is already better and a few days ago i read in a magazine that there is a new version due to 'security and blow you system up' like bugs in that version. [i'm nut sure yet how a pdf doc can violate security]. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-2000 10:39:15-GMT,2344;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09610 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 03:39:12 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA30148 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:04:40 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA30145 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:04:37 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13qutP-0000mD-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:13:15 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA05134 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:06:16 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13qum1-004wwRC; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:05:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:05:37 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: Windows PDF browser plug-in problems Message-ID: <20001101110537.K13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" References: <3.0.6.32.20001101090556.01ccae70@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001101090556.01ccae70@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:05:56AM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-11-01 09:05:56 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > due to 'security and blow you system up' like bugs in that version. [i'm > nut sure yet how a pdf doc can violate security]. Easy. Just do a launch action which does an "rm -rf /" equivalent on W$n. Didn't we discuss the possibility of calling perl from PDF in Hagen? :-) Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 1-Nov-2000 10:42:56-GMT,1932;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09692 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 03:42:53 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA30158 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:08:39 -0500 Received: from danube.river-valley.com (IDENT:root@[210.212.246.85]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA30153 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:08:34 -0500 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com (root@narmada.river-valley.com [192.168.1.202]) by danube.river-valley.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13599; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 15:44:43 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:cvr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA01930; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 15:36:13 +0530 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 15:36:13 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Erik Frisk cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Erik Frisk wrote: : > WARMreader.sty by Ross Moore and Wendy does this job precisely. : > You can relabel your graphics without any fuss and is supported : > by pdfTeX too. : : Where can I find this package? CTAN and ftp-search did not find the : package. http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/WARM/WARMreader.sty There is a good documentation too: http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/WARM/WARMarticle.pdf -- Radhakrishnan ------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 208E F5EB A4B4 2024 AEE9 575D 13DE E3B9 0292 70EF GPG Public key : http://www.river-valley.com/gpg/cvr.gpg 1-Nov-2000 10:45:58-GMT,1412;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09732 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 03:45:55 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA30178 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:11:58 -0500 Received: from aeon.tvd.be (aeon.tvd.be [195.162.196.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA30171 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:11:55 -0500 Received: from cyric (cable-195-162-214-210.upc.chello.be [195.162.214.210]) by aeon.tvd.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/RELAY-1.1) with SMTP id LAA22702; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:15:12 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: From: "Roel Vandenhoeck" To: "pdftex" , "MiKTeX" Subject: restart pagenumbering after titlepage Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:16:41 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk HI How can one prevent that the pagenumbering restarts after the titlepage?? thanks Roel 1-Nov-2000 11:22:14-GMT,2812;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA10305 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 04:22:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA30222 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:44:10 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA30219 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:44:07 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13qvVe-00017H-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:52:46 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA06158 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:46:06 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13qvOx-004wwRC; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:45:51 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:45:51 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: \pdfpageresources (was: Separation Color Spaces (and LaTeX)) Message-ID: <20001101114551.M13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024160726.A13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001025100957.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 02:41:38PM +0200 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-10-25 14:41:38 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 10:09 AM 10/25/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: > >On 2000-10-24 18:44:12 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> \pdfpageresources > >> > >> and all those 'resource' keys can be used for that. So you can build > > > >Where can I learn more about these keys? They are not in the > >manual... > > search for "resources spec" and for what goes in there consult the pdf spec. \pdfpageresources seems to be local; at least inside a group it needs a \global prefix to appear in the PDF. Bug or feature? Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 1-Nov-2000 12:56:30-GMT,2071;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11813 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 05:56:28 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA30321 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 07:18:30 -0500 Received: from id080.wkap.nl (id080.wkap.nl [195.169.64.28]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA30318 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 07:18:28 -0500 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #45008) id <01JW0ZRHZWF49H5HIL@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:21:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from wkap.nl ([194.171.67.81]) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #45008) with ESMTP id <01JW0ZRHUGIS9H4VQN@wkap.nl>; Wed, 01 Nov 2000 13:21:48 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 13:18:57 +0100 From: S2P development Subject: Re: Windows PDF browser plug-in problems To: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <3A000A31.8E7D3DA0@wkap.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <3.0.6.32.20001101090556.01ccae70@pop.wxs.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen wrote: > [i'm nut sure yet how a pdf doc can violate security]. Only on some very buggy operating systems that don't really do memory protection under all circumstances: it is possible that a pdf object becomes to large for the Reader's preallocated buffer. The Reader would then write the object into the memory segment following the allocated buffer anyway. IF that segment contained program code already AND the contents of the PDF object is binary executable code, then there is a chance that this code is actually executed. Typically, this sort of error results in an 'Illegal instruction' error message for a completely different program (whose authors get a bug report that has nothing to do with their program :)). Greetings, Taco 1-Nov-2000 14:06:47-GMT,2332;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13063 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 07:06:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA30434 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:08:20 -0500 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30428 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:08:17 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.139.232]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3CKMI01.GHM; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:11:06 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001101140832.015df100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 14:08:32 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Windows PDF browser plug-in problems Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" In-Reply-To: <20001101110537.K13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001101090556.01ccae70@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001101090556.01ccae70@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id IAA30430 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:05 AM 11/1/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-11-01 09:05:56 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> due to 'security and blow you system up' like bugs in that version. [i'm >> nut sure yet how a pdf doc can violate security]. > >Easy. Just do a launch action which does an "rm -rf /" equivalent >on W$n. > >Didn't we discuss the possibility of calling perl from PDF in Hagen? :-) Indeed, some day, but right now i'm looking into some other (quite) interesting things -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-2000 14:07:03-GMT,2824;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13073 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 07:07:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA30435 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:08:28 -0500 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30429 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:08:17 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.139.232]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3CKMJ01.LG6; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:11:07 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001101140942.015e12b0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 14:09:42 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: \pdfpageresources (was: Separation Color Spaces (and LaTeX)) Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20001101114551.M13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024160726.A13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001025100957.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id IAA30432 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:45 AM 11/1/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-10-25 14:41:38 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >> At 10:09 AM 10/25/00 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: >> >On 2000-10-24 18:44:12 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >> >> \pdfpageresources >> >> >> >> and all those 'resource' keys can be used for that. So you can build >> > >> >Where can I learn more about these keys? They are not in the >> >manual... >> >> search for "resources spec" and for what goes in there consult the pdf spec. > >\pdfpageresources seems to be local; at least inside a group it >needs a \global prefix to appear in the PDF. Bug or feature? I would say: just a characteristic. Some tex primitives behave local, others global. Such is TeX. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-2000 21:00:43-GMT,2336;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07452 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:00:41 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA31640 for pdftex-list; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 15:19:13 -0500 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (root@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA31637 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 15:19:09 -0500 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19561; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:22:26 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA16151; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:22:23 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200011012022.HAA16151@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: towards a PDFrag ... In-Reply-To: from Radhakrishnan C V at "Nov 1, 2000 03:36:13 pm" To: Radhakrishnan C V Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:22:23 +1100 (EST) CC: Erik Frisk , pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Erik Frisk wrote: > > : > WARMreader.sty by Ross Moore and Wendy does this job precisely. > : > You can relabel your graphics without any fuss and is supported > : > by pdfTeX too. > : > : Where can I find this package? CTAN and ftp-search did not find the > : package. > > http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/WARM/WARMreader.sty > > There is a good documentation too: > > http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/WARM/WARMarticle.pdf Also visit these sites: http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/WARM/ http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~wgm/WARM/ for many examples, and alternative links to the above documents, and other work by the WaRM team. Enjoy, Ross Moore (waRM) > > -- > Radhakrishnan > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > GPG Fingerprint: 208E F5EB A4B4 2024 AEE9 575D 13DE E3B9 0292 70EF > GPG Public key : http://www.river-valley.com/gpg/cvr.gpg > 2-Nov-2000 7:38:26-GMT,1825;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA21425 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:38:24 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00303 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:59:34 -0500 Received: from cc979771-a.egrove1.ca.home.com (cc979771-a.egrove1.ca.home.com [24.176.189.62]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00300 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:59:29 -0500 Received: (from mccallum@localhost) by cc979771-a.egrove1.ca.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07625 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 23:02:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 23:02:00 -0800 From: "C. Michael McCallum" To: pdfTeX mailing-list Subject: followup: seminar + pdftex Message-ID: <20001101230200.A7617@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Reply-To: "C. Michael McCallum" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk One more thing: this file also fails in LaTeX (though for some other files, this didn't seem to matter to pdflatex) with the error: ERROR: Undefined control sequence. --- TeX said --- \m!systems : Why not use pdf(e)TeX binaries? l.59 ...!systems}{Why not use pdf(e)TeX binaries?} and the file involved is $TEXROOT/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex which I aquired from the pdftex website. Cheers, Mike -- C. Michael McCallum | "That may be one tough nut to crack, Associate Professor | but I am one determined Chemistry, UOP | little squirrel" mmccallum@uop.edu | (209) 946-2393 | fax (209) 946-2607 2-Nov-2000 7:40:07-GMT,6495;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA21438 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:40:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA32761 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:55:15 -0500 Received: from cc979771-a.egrove1.ca.home.com (cc979771-a.egrove1.ca.home.com [24.176.189.62]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA32758 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 01:55:10 -0500 Received: (from mccallum@localhost) by cc979771-a.egrove1.ca.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA07604; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:57:35 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:57:34 -0800 From: "C. Michael McCallum" To: pdfTeX mailing-list Cc: cmmccallum@home.com Subject: seminar + pdftex + graphic{x,s} Message-ID: <20001101225734.A7595@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Reply-To: "C. Michael McCallum" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I've been trying to get pdf{la}tex to work to make some seminar slides, and I've been pleased to find it is about 90% there for me. I am still having problems with including graphics. I recieved this error earlier, so I decided to install the latest pdftex snapshot. I had problems making the .fmt files with my year-old teTeX, so I got the latest I could of that, too. I then compiled and installed the new pdftex, plus the 'pdftex.def', supp-pdf.tex and supp-mis.tex from the pdftex page. I get the same failure. Here is my log file: --- merckx [Talks] <48>pdflatex talk-diff.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14g-pretest-20000912 (Web2C 7.3.2.2) (./talk-diff.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1999/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, n ohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/seminar.cls Document Class: seminar 1997/10/13, 1.4 Document Style: seminar' v1.4 <1997/10/13> (tvz) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/09/10 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/sem-page.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/seminar.con) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/semhelv.sty Style Option: semhelv' for the seminar' doc style 1.2 <1998/07/24> (tvz) Modified by Stefan (see source for details) ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/local/phys.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsmath.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amstext.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsgen.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsbsy.sty) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsopn.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/amssymb.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/amsfonts.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/xspace.sty)) (./talk-diff.aux) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) [1 Non-PDF special ignored!{/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map}] (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/umsa.fd) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/umsb.fd) [2] LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape OMS/helvetica/m/n' undefined (Font) using OMS/cmsy/m/n' instead (Font) for symbol textbullet' on input line 77. [3] [4] [5] ! Undefined control sequence. ...bgroup \fi \fi \fi \ifdim \Gin@vlly \p@ =\z@ \else \lower \Gin... l.126 \includegraphics{exchange} --- Here is the bit of code that does that (in my directory, I have the file "exchange.pdf", a converted eps2pdf file, which shows up just fine with xpdf): --- \documentclass[a4,semhelv]{seminar} \usepackage[pdftex]{color,graphics} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% Fix for pdflatex \newif\ifpdf \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX \else \pdfoutput=1 % we are running PDFLaTeX \pdftrue \fi \ifpdf \pdfpagewidth=297truemm % your milage may vary.... % ^^^^ \pdfpageheight=210truemm \pdfhorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \pdfvorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \fi %%% End of fix %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.png,.pdf} \centerslidesfalse \definecolor{orange}{rgb}{1,0.4,0} \definecolor{bgblue}{rgb}{0.2,0.3,0.55} \definecolor{hlred}{rgb}{1,0.2,0.3} \slideframe[]{none} \color{white} \begin{slide} \item DMC method (\color{yellow} Diana Qi and C. M. McCallum, submitted to \emph{Phys. Rev. E}.\color{white}) In the DMC model, the shear is an abstraction because of relative velocities. Velocities of colliding pairs (in the $z-$ direction) are compared with the shear $\mathbf{u}$: \begin{equation} \eta = -\sum_{i,j}\frac{mv_{ij,x}-\mathbf{u}}{\mathbf{u}L^{3}\tau} \label{eq:viscosity} \end{equation} \begin{figure}[h] \begin{center} \includegraphics{exchange} \label{fig:exchange} \end{center} \end{figure} \textbf{Pros:} Relatively easy to implement. Gives qualitatively physical results. \textbf{Cons:} Non-intuitive. Other shear effects on structure ignored. \end{enumerate} \end{slide} \end{document} --- Now, as an aside, earlier today, when I installed the new pdftex the first time, pdflatex was working well enough to give me readable pdf from a latex doc that has standard CM fonts. My stock pdftex (which came with my old teTeX dist) did not. This new teTeX/pdftex install killed that functionality also. Any help would be much appreciated! Other than this problem, the slides really look beautiful in pdf. Cheers, Mike -- C. Michael McCallum | "That may be one tough nut to crack, Associate Professor | but I am one determined Chemistry, UOP | little squirrel" mmccallum@uop.edu | (209) 946-2393 | fax (209) 946-2607 2-Nov-2000 10:53:22-GMT,1918;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA24843 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 03:53:20 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA00537 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 04:59:22 -0500 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA00534 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 04:59:18 -0500 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id LAA24682 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:02:41 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200011021002.LAA25421@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id LAA25421; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:02:41 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:02:41 +0100 (MET) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: objects within bitmaps To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: PKzLoP/yQjWqszdj0Cygiw== Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > At 20:43 30.10.2000 +0100, Verwalter Dr.Betz wrote: > > >Moreover I was not successful in downloading the texpower manual > >(texpower.zip 1.6M of which I can get only 1M) from > >ls1-www.cs.uni-dortmund... texpower.zip contains the whole of the TeXPower package, including a lot of example files. The manual is downloadable separately as http://lrb.cs.uni-dortmund.de/~lehmke/texpower/doc/manual.pdf (~200k) regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany 2-Nov-2000 12:16:26-GMT,1882;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA26361 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 05:16:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA00637 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 06:38:59 -0500 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00629 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 06:38:55 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.72]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3EB5O01.3E2; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:41:48 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001102121443.01892940@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:14:43 +0100 To: "C. Michael McCallum" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: seminar + pdftex + graphic{x,s} Cc: pdfTeX mailing-list , cmmccallum@home.com In-Reply-To: <20001101225734.A7595@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:57 PM 11/1/00 -0800, C. Michael McCallum wrote: >supp-pdf.tex and supp-mis.tex from the pdftex page. I get the same failure. > ...bgroup \fi \fi \fi \ifdim \Gin@vlly there is no \Gin@vlly in context macros, so it is unrelated to supp-*.tex files; you may want to update latex. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-2000 12:17:20-GMT,2359;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA26378 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 05:17:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA00638 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 06:39:00 -0500 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00628 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 06:38:55 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.72]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3EB5N01.WEQ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:41:47 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001102121248.014bcc90@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:12:48 +0100 To: "C. Michael McCallum" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: followup: seminar + pdftex Cc: pdfTeX mailing-list In-Reply-To: <20001101230200.A7617@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:02 PM 11/1/00 -0800, C. Michael McCallum wrote: > >One more thing: this file also fails in LaTeX (though for some other files, >this didn't seem to matter to pdflatex) with the error: > >ERROR: Undefined control sequence. > >--- TeX said --- > \m!systems > : Why not use pdf(e)TeX binaries? > l.59 ...!systems}{Why not use pdf(e)TeX binaries?} > > >and the file involved is $TEXROOT/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex >which I aquired from the pdftex website. The message class constant \m!systems is only defined in context, and the message is invoked when not running pdf(e)tex. I'll remive the \m! part for the sake of latex. Actually, this file supp-pdf.tex is not needed in normal (non) pdftex, so after the message, the loading is aborted anyway. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-2000 12:17:20-GMT,2098;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA26377 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 05:17:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA00636 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 06:38:59 -0500 Received: from epsilon.dynaweb.de (epsilon.dynaweb.de [195.88.176.162]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA00627 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 06:38:55 -0500 Received: (qmail 33166 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 11:42:17 -0000 Received: from p3e9b8e59.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO servus) (62.155.142.89) by epsilon.dynaweb.de with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 11:42:17 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c044c1$ee908740$78e2fea9@servus> Reply-To: "Ulrich Dirr" From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "pdfTeX" Subject: [pdfTeX] help on MM font setup Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:42:07 +0100 Organization: Art & Satz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've looked in the docs and previous mails but did not find an answer. How can I setup Multiple Master fonts (Windows; fpTeX v0.4; pdfTeX v0.14h) so that they're useable with pdfTeX? I want to test them with the HZ features of pdfTeX. I've tried these map file entries JER__J4E AJensonMM "LY1 ReEncodeFont" Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28133 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 06:54:35 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00780 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:14:57 -0500 Received: from nagmx1.nag.co.uk (nagmx1e.nag.co.uk [62.232.54.130]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00777 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:14:53 -0500 Received: from nag.co.uk (IDENT:root@hereford.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.112]) by nagmx1.nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09156; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:17:00 GMT Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02314; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:15:18 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:15:18 GMT Message-Id: <200011021315.NAA02314@nag.co.uk> X-Authentication-Warning: hereford.nag.co.uk: davidc set sender to davidc@nag.co.uk using -f From: David Carlisle To: pragma@wxs.nl CC: mmccallum@uop.edu, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20001102121248.014bcc90@pop.wxs.nl> (message from Hans Hagen on Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:12:48 +0100) Subject: Re: followup: seminar + pdftex References: <3.0.6.32.20001102121248.014bcc90@pop.wxs.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:02 PM 11/1/00 -0800, C. Michael McCallum wrote: > >One more thing: this file also fails in LaTeX (though for some other files, >this didn't seem to matter to pdflatex) with the error: > >ERROR: Undefined control sequence. > >--- TeX said --- > \m!systems > : Why not use pdf(e)TeX binaries? > l.59 ...!systems}{Why not use pdf(e)TeX binaries?} > > >and the file involved is $TEXROOT/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex >which I aquired from the pdftex website. The message class constant \m!systems is only defined in context, and the message is invoked when not running pdf(e)tex. I'll remive the \m! part for the sake of latex. Actually, this file supp-pdf.tex is not needed in normal (non) pdftex, so after the message, the loading is aborted anyway. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Latex does not load the file at all unless the pdftex option is given. You probably shouldn't be using [pdftex] if you are using "latex" rather than "pdflatex" as your command. so while the format of the error appears a little strange in latex, th etext of the error message is accurate and contains correct advice: use pdftex binaries. David 2-Nov-2000 15:19:44-GMT,4633;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00046 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:19:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01055 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:42:10 -0500 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01052 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:42:07 -0500 Received: from utinam.univ-fcomte.fr (utinam.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.201]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14046 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:46:42 GMT Received: from halebopp2 ([193.55.70.178]) by utinam.univ-fcomte.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA15330 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:45:41 GMT Message-Id: <200011021545.PAA15330@utinam.univ-fcomte.fr> X-Sender: petiard@erdos.univ-fcomte.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 15:44:38 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Fran=E7ois?= Subject: Re: seminar + pdftex + graphic{x,s} Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id JAA01053 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 22:57 01/11/00 -0800, you wrote: > >I've been trying to get pdf{la}tex to work to make some seminar slides, >and I've been pleased to find it is about 90% there for me. I am still >having problems with including graphics. I recieved this error earlier, >so I decided to install the latest pdftex snapshot. I had problems making >the .fmt files with my year-old teTeX, so I got the latest I could of that, >too. I then compiled and installed the new pdftex, plus the 'pdftex.def', >supp-pdf.tex and supp-mis.tex from the pdftex page. I get the same failure. > >Here is my log file: >--- >merckx [Talks] <48>pdflatex talk-diff.tex >This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14g-pretest-20000912 (Web2C 7.3.2.2) >(./talk-diff.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} >LaTeX2e <1999/12/01> patch level 1 >Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, >ngerman, n >ohyphenation, loaded. >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/seminar.cls >Document Class: seminar 1997/10/13, 1.4 >Document Style: seminar' v1.4 <1997/10/13> (tvz) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls >Document Class: article 1999/09/10 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/sem-page.sty)) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/seminar.con) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/semhelv.sty >Style Option: semhelv' for the seminar' doc style 1.2 <1998/07/24> (tvz) >Modified by Stefan (see source for details) >) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def)) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg)) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/local/phys.sty >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsmath.sty >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amstext.sty >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsgen.sty)) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsbsy.sty) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amslatex/amsopn.sty)) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/amssymb.sty >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/amsfonts.sty)) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/tools/xspace.sty)) (./talk-diff.aux) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex >loading : Context Support Macros / Missing >) >loading : Context Support Macros / PDF >) [1 >Non-PDF special ignored!{/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map}] >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/umsa.fd) >(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/umsb.fd) [2] > >LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape OMS/helvetica/m/n' undefined >(Font) using OMS/cmsy/m/n' instead >(Font) for symbol textbullet' on input line 77. > >[3] [4] [5] >! Undefined control sequence. > ...bgroup \fi \fi \fi \ifdim \Gin@vlly > \p@ =\z@ \else \lower >\Gin... >l.126 \includegraphics{exchange} >--- > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} and not \usepackage[pdftex]{graphics} F. Pétiard -- Pétiard François Courriel : petiard@math.univ-fcomte.fr 2-Nov-2000 18:13:19-GMT,1964;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05146 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:13:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01342 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:35:44 -0500 Received: from onsager.cop.uop.edu (onsager.cop.uop.edu [138.9.50.194]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01339 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:35:41 -0500 Received: (from mccallum@localhost) by onsager.cop.uop.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21662; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:39:20 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:39:20 -0800 From: "C. Michael McCallum" To: P?tiard Fran?ois , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: seminar + pdftex + graphic{x,s} Message-ID: <20001102093920.A21643@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Reply-To: "C. Michael McCallum" References: <200011021543.PAA15260@utinam.univ-fcomte.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <200011021543.PAA15260@utinam.univ-fcomte.fr>; from petiard@math.univ-fcomte.fr on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 03:43:34PM +0000 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi F., >\usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} and not \usepackage[pdftex]{graphics} > >F. P?tiard I should have said, this results whichever of graphics or graphicx is used. Now, that being said, I feel really dumb, because graphicx DOES work. It didn't yesterday, but I guess the stars are aligned now. If it took a post to the list, embarassing myself to make it work, so be it. ;) Thanks for the help! Cheers, Mike -- C. Michael McCallum | Elegant does not mean correct; Associate Professor | it may simply mean that the Chemistry, UOP | result is simple *and* wrong. mmccallum@uop.edu | (209) 946-2393 | fax (209) 946-2607 2-Nov-2000 18:14:30-GMT,2133;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05211 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:14:28 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01358 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:39:51 -0500 Received: from onsager.cop.uop.edu (onsager.cop.uop.edu [138.9.50.194]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01355 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:39:49 -0500 Received: (from mccallum@localhost) by onsager.cop.uop.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21682 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:43:30 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:43:30 -0800 From: "C. Michael McCallum" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: seminar + pdftex + graphic{x,s} Message-ID: <20001102094330.C21643@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Reply-To: "C. Michael McCallum" References: <20001101225734.A7595@onsager.cop.uop.edu> <3.0.6.32.20001102121443.01892940@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001102121443.01892940@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 12:14:43PM +0100 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk * Hans Hagen (pragma@wxs.nl) [001102 06:58]: > At 10:57 PM 11/1/00 -0800, C. Michael McCallum wrote: > > >supp-pdf.tex and supp-mis.tex from the pdftex page. I get the same failure. > > > ...bgroup \fi \fi \fi \ifdim \Gin@vlly > > there is no \Gin@vlly in context macros, so it is unrelated to supp-*.tex > files; you may want to update latex. > David C. explained this to me in another post; I can see not to put the \usepackage{pdftex} in when running normal latex. But I did just upgrade my latex; I'm running a Dec. 1999 version now (teTeX 1.0.7). Cheers, Mike -- C. Michael McCallum | Elegant does not mean correct; Associate Professor | it may simply mean that the Chemistry, UOP | result is simple *and* wrong. mmccallum@uop.edu | (209) 946-2393 | fax (209) 946-2607 2-Nov-2000 18:15:21-GMT,3084;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05243 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:15:20 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01349 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:38:05 -0500 Received: from onsager.cop.uop.edu (onsager.cop.uop.edu [138.9.50.194]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01346 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:38:03 -0500 Received: (from mccallum@localhost) by onsager.cop.uop.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21673; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:41:40 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:41:40 -0800 From: "C. Michael McCallum" To: David Carlisle , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: followup: seminar + pdftex Message-ID: <20001102094140.B21643@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Reply-To: "C. Michael McCallum" References: <3.0.6.32.20001102121248.014bcc90@pop.wxs.nl> <200011021315.NAA02314@nag.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <200011021315.NAA02314@nag.co.uk>; from davidc@nag.co.uk on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 01:15:18PM +0000 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk * David Carlisle (davidc@nag.co.uk) [001102 05:18]: > > At 11:02 PM 11/1/00 -0800, C. Michael McCallum wrote: > > > >One more thing: this file also fails in LaTeX (though for some other files, > >this didn't seem to matter to pdflatex) with the error: > > > >ERROR: Undefined control sequence. > > > >--- TeX said --- > > \m!systems > > : Why not use pdf(e)TeX binaries? > > l.59 ...!systems}{Why not use pdf(e)TeX binaries?} > > > > > >and the file involved is $TEXROOT/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex > >which I aquired from the pdftex website. > > The message class constant \m!systems is only defined in context, and the > message is invoked when not running pdf(e)tex. I'll remive the \m! part for > the sake of latex. Actually, this file supp-pdf.tex is not needed in normal > (non) pdftex, so after the message, the loading is aborted anyway. > > Hans > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Latex does not load the file at all unless the pdftex option is given. > You probably shouldn't be using [pdftex] if you are using "latex" rather > than "pdflatex" as your command. > > so while the format of the error appears a little strange in latex, th > etext of the error message is accurate and contains correct advice: > use pdftex binaries. > > David Thanks for the explanation... I guess I'm just being lazy, leaving that pdftex option in while running (normal) LaTeX. Cheers, Mike -- C. Michael McCallum | Elegant does not mean correct; Associate Professor | it may simply mean that the Chemistry, UOP | result is simple *and* wrong. mmccallum@uop.edu | (209) 946-2393 | fax (209) 946-2607 2-Nov-2000 19:09:30-GMT,3141;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06804 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:09:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01438 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:30:03 -0500 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01435 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:30:02 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25065 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:33:27 +0100 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc17.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.207]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24985 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:33:23 +0100 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27707 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:31:47 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:31:46 +0100 (MET) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: objects within bitmaps In-Reply-To: <200010302303.KAA02215@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Ross Moore wrote: > > > > \begin{picture}(0,0) > > > > \put(2,-8.5){\includegraphics[width=10cm,height=8.5cm]{people.png}} > > > > \pause > > > > \put(-1,-1){\Large Bill Clinton} > > > > \end{picture} > > For this type of work, I suggest you also look at the system > called WaRMreader, that does this, and a whole lot more > (but it requires a bit of work) : Concerning the successive labeling of a bitmap, let me once more propose a simpler method and ask you, why it doesn't work properly: 1) Import the bitmap into XFIG (using its picture object or pstoedit) 2) Save this as bitmap.fig and export to bitmap.ps 3) Label this bitmap within XFIG visually, using all kind of text and other objects (e.g. in red color to view it on a grey bitmap) 4) After finally deleting the bitmap object, save this as label.fig and export to label.ps 5) Convert bitmap.ps and label.ps to PDF using ps2pdf (but not epstopdf, which would inevitably crop the files) 6) Merging both files within PDFLATEX: \documentclass[...]{seminar} \usepackage[abs]{overpic} \setlength\unitlength{1mm} ... \begin{overpic}[scale=.25,grid,tics=5]{bitmap.pdf} \pause %Labels showing up only after the press of the button \put(0,0){\includegraphics[scale=.25]{label.pdf}} \end{overpic} ... But while the merging of bitmap.fig and label.fig is aligning correctly within XFIG, there is a shifting of the 2 corresponding PDF's within PDFLATEX! (Neither will they align correctly in LATEX using bitmap.ps and label.ps.) How can I get those files to overlay correctly? Thanks again for any comment, you've helped me already a lot... Herbert 2-Nov-2000 19:09:40-GMT,34811;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06817 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:09:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01423 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:26:21 -0500 Received: from cc979771-a.egrove1.ca.home.com (merckx.cop.uop.edu [138.9.50.193]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01420 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:26:18 -0500 Received: (from mccallum@localhost) by cc979771-a.egrove1.ca.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00919; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:28:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:28:48 -0800 From: "C. Michael McCallum" To: tjk@ams.org, pdfTeX mailing-list Subject: font probs in teTeX/pdflatex Message-ID: <20001102102848.A913@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Reply-To: "C. Michael McCallum" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi Tom, I mailed this to the list (I think), but I'm sending the files to you directly, also. .tex file, generated .pdf (from pdflatex) and the pdflatex log, as well as the regular latex log. Thanks for helping!! Cheers, Mike -- C. Michael McCallum | "That may be one tough nut to crack, Associate Professor | but I am one determined Chemistry, UOP | little squirrel" mmccallum@uop.edu | (209) 946-2393 | fax (209) 946-2607 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/x-tex Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="hw-7.tex" \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage{calc,url} \newenvironment{Ventry}[1]% {\begin{list}{}{\renewcommand{\makelabel}[1]{\textsf{##1:}\hfil}% \settowidth{\labelwidth}{\textsf{#1:}}% \setlength{\leftmargin}{\labelwidth+\labelsep}}}% {\end{list}} \begin{document} \parindent0pt \title{\Large Chem 161 \\ Problem Set \\ \large Fall, 2000 \\ \hrulefill} \date{} \maketitle \thispagestyle{empty} \vspace{-36pt} \normalsize {\Large Suggested Study Problems (Atkins)} (Not graded) \begin{enumerate} \item E6.8 \item E7.1 \item E7.3 \item E7.6 \item E7.11 \end{enumerate} {\Large Problems (Atkins)} (To be turned in) \begin{enumerate} \item P6.17 \item P7.1 \item P7.5 \item P7.9 \item \textsc{Extra Credit:} 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[1 {/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map}] (./hw-7.aux) ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 337 strings out of 10500 3638 string characters out of 66232 47579 words of memory out of 263001 3379 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+0 7574 words of font info for 27 fonts, out of 400000 for 1000 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 21i,6n,19p,131b,212s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,50000b,4000s Output written on hw-7.pdf (1 page, 20576 bytes). --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY-- 2-Nov-2000 19:56:27-GMT,31847;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08105 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:56:24 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01470 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:19:07 -0500 Received: from cc979771-a.egrove1.ca.home.com (merckx.cop.uop.edu [138.9.50.193]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01467 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:19:05 -0500 Received: (from mccallum@localhost) by cc979771-a.egrove1.ca.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00946; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:01:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:01:03 -0800 From: "C. Michael McCallum" To: teTeX Mailing list , pdfTeX mailing-list Subject: Fonts not showing up in pdflatex (was re-installed, help) Message-ID: <20001102100103.A926@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Reply-To: "C. Michael McCallum" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for the responses; I'm not quite sure it's appropriate to ask here, as this may indeed be a pdf{la}tex problem. I've included a really simple file: .tex, corresponding generated .pdf and the log file. Again, I apologize if this is not the appropriate group; I'm sending it to the pdftex list also. Cheers, Mike -- C. Michael McCallum | "That may be one tough nut to crack, Associate Professor | but I am one determined Chemistry, UOP | little squirrel" mmccallum@uop.edu | (209) 946-2393 | fax (209) 946-2607 --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: application/x-tex Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="hw-7.tex" \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage{calc,url} \newenvironment{Ventry}[1]% {\begin{list}{}{\renewcommand{\makelabel}[1]{\textsf{##1:}\hfil}% \settowidth{\labelwidth}{\textsf{#1:}}% \setlength{\leftmargin}{\labelwidth+\labelsep}}}% {\end{list}} \begin{document} \parindent0pt \title{\Large Chem 161 \\ Problem Set \\ \large Fall, 2000 \\ \hrulefill} \date{} \maketitle \thispagestyle{empty} \vspace{-36pt} \normalsize {\Large Suggested Study Problems (Atkins)} (Not graded) \begin{enumerate} \item E6.8 \item E7.1 \item E7.3 \item E7.6 \item E7.11 \end{enumerate} {\Large Problems (Atkins)} (To be turned in) \begin{enumerate} \item P6.17 \item P7.1 \item P7.5 \item P7.9 \item \textsc{Extra Credit:} 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(mode = -2) --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn-- 2-Nov-2000 20:11:22-GMT,2964;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08579 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:11:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01491 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:35:50 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01488 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:35:49 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14650; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 20:39:14 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA20464; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 20:39:12 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200011021939.UAA20464@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdfTeX] help on MM font setup In-Reply-To: <001901c044c1$ee908740$78e2fea9@servus> from Ulrich Dirr at "Nov 2, 0 12:42:07 pm" To: ud@art-satz.de Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 20:39:12 +0100 (MET) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I've looked in the docs and previous mails but did not find an answer. > > How can I setup Multiple Master fonts (Windows; fpTeX v0.4; pdfTeX v0.14h) > so that they're useable with pdfTeX? I want to test them with the HZ > features of pdfTeX. > > I've tried these map file entries > > JER__J4E AJensonMM "LY1 ReEncodeFont" JEEXPRJD AJensonMM-Ep "LY1 ReEncodeFont" > resulting in > > Error: pdflatex.exe (file i:/TeX/texmf-local/fonts/type1/jer_____.pfb): > a number expected: > `/FontBBox{{-96 -126 -99 -105 -82 -98 }{-284 -284 -286 -275 -298 -285 }{1065 > 1211 1060 1062 1040 1043 }{836 821 820 840 782 805 }}def' this will be rather complicated. Here is what I have in my enviroment: 1) a modified version of tetex' mktextfm that can recognize the expanded names (like cmr10+20 or pmnr8z-20). When such a font is to be generated, another script called mktextfm.ext will be called; otherwise the font will be generated in the `normal' way as tetex does. 2) mktextfm.ext examines the font type (mf, t1 or mm instance) and generate the corresponding resouces. For mf font it creates a copy of the original mf with the width unit increased by the required amount. mm instances are created using mminstance; t1 fonts are expanded by horizontal scaling. 3) in case of t1/mm fonts; the metrics are generated by another script according to the encoding of the font. I have setup a script for il2 encoding (8z in fontname) only. 4) setup map entries for t1/mm instances. I can send of those script to those who are interested; but probably it makes sense only for unix users. Thanh 2-Nov-2000 20:16:28-GMT,2036;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08718 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:16:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01500 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:40:14 -0500 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01497 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:40:13 -0500 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02583 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:43:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:43:37 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: pdftex list Subject: Re: [pdfTeX] help on MM font setup In-Reply-To: <001901c044c1$ee908740$78e2fea9@servus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk You need to make an instance of the MM font before pdftex can use it. See http://www.lcdf.org/~eddietwo/type/#mmtools for a suite of tools for interpolating MM fonts. I don't know of anyone whos has ported these tools to Windows. Perhaps Fabrice Popineau has already done so (but I don't see them in the fpTeX distro). Regards, Tom On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Ulrich Dirr wrote: > > How can I setup Multiple Master fonts (Windows; fpTeX v0.4; pdfTeX v0.14h) > so that they're useable with pdfTeX? I want to test them with the HZ > features of pdfTeX. > > I've tried these map file entries > > JER__J4E AJensonMM "LY1 ReEncodeFont" JEEXPRJD AJensonMM-Ep "LY1 ReEncodeFont" > resulting in > > Error: pdflatex.exe (file i:/TeX/texmf-local/fonts/type1/jer_____.pfb): > a number expected: > `/FontBBox{{-96 -126 -99 -105 -82 -98 }{-284 -284 -286 -275 -298 -285 }{1065 > 1211 1060 1062 1040 1043 }{836 821 820 840 782 805 }}def' > > 2-Nov-2000 20:51:20-GMT,11113;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09797 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:51:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01590 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:24:37 -0500 Received: from onsager.cop.uop.edu (onsager.cop.uop.edu [138.9.50.194]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01587 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:24:34 -0500 Received: (from mccallum@localhost) by onsager.cop.uop.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22082 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:28:15 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:28:15 -0800 From: "C. Michael McCallum" To: pdfTeX mailing-list Subject: missing fonts solve Message-ID: <20001102122815.A21946@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Reply-To: "C. Michael McCallum" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline OK, it may have just been a case of being frantic because what had worked now doesn't, but running pdflatex on the sample file I posted *does* work, i.e. the pdf file is complete and readable. I ran 'allneeded' on my tex directories and it seems to have fixed this issue. BUT: I do still have this problem with a seminar class file. I'm not sure exactly why this is; I think I can see some information in the log file, but I don't know how to interpret it (I've attached the .tex file): --- start --- This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14g-pretest-20000912 (Web2C 7.3.2.2) (format=pdflatex 2000.11.1) 2 NOV 2000 11:55 **talk-template.tex (./talk-template.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <1999/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, n ohyphenation, loaded. 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(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/umsa.fd File: umsa.fd 1995/01/05 v2.2e AMS font definitions ) LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for U+msb on input line 41. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/amsfonts/umsb.fd File: umsb.fd 1995/01/05 v2.2e AMS font definitions ) LaTeX Font Info: Font shape `OT1/helvetica/m/n' will be (Font) scaled to size 5.74005pt on input line 45. [1 Non-PDF special ignored! Non-PDF special ignored! Non-PDF special ignored! {/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map}] [2 Non-PDF special ignored! ] (./talk-template.aux) ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 1975 strings out of 10500 23601 string characters out of 66232 70173 words of memory out of 263001 4947 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+0 12152 words of font info for 32 fonts, out of 400000 for 1000 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 34i,11n,26p,270b,375s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,50000b,4000s {/usr/shar e/texmf/dvips/base/8r.enc} Output written on talk-template.pdf (2 pages, 24324 bytes). -- C. Michael McCallum | Elegant does not mean correct; Associate Professor | it may simply mean that the Chemistry, UOP | result is simple *and* wrong. mmccallum@uop.edu | (209) 946-2393 | fax (209) 946-2607 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/x-tex Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-template.tex" \documentclass[a4,semhelv]{seminar} \usepackage[dvips]{color,graphicx} \usepackage{phys} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% Fix for pdflatex \newif\ifpdf \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined \pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX \else \pdfoutput=1 % we are running PDFLaTeX \pdftrue \fi \ifpdf \pdfpagewidth=297truemm % your milage may vary.... % ^^^^ \pdfpageheight=210truemm \pdfhorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \pdfvorigin=1truein % default value(?), but doesn't work without \fi %%% End of fix %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.png,.pdf} \centerslidesfalse \definecolor{orange}{rgb}{1,0.4,0} \definecolor{bgblue}{rgb}{0.2,0.3,0.55} \definecolor{hlred}{rgb}{1,0.2,0.3} \slideframe[]{none} \pagecolor{bgblue} \color{white} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \begin{slide} {\Large Test Heading} Test text \begin{equation} \label{eq:test} \eta = \sum_{ij}^N \frac{\mathbf{u}}{L\tau} \end{equation} \end{slide} \color{white} %%% should be new slide (automagically) --- hand fit \begin{slide} Another test equation: %%%% this shows up OK \begin{equation} \label{eq:r2} \expect{R^{2}} = \expect{|r(0) - r(t)|^{2}} \end{equation} %% %% here, none of the \mathbf stuff shows up \begin{equation} \label{eq:mathbf} \mathbf{U} = \mathbf{Y}\cdot\mathbf{Q}\cdot\hat{\mathbf{R}} \end{equation} \end{slide} \end{document} --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- 2-Nov-2000 23:53:25-GMT,2135;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14696 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:53:24 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01783 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:06:47 -0500 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01780 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:06:45 -0500 Received: from utinam.univ-fcomte.fr (utinam.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.201]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18926 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 00:11:22 GMT Received: from halebopp2 (ppp16.univ-fcomte.fr [193.55.66.16]) by utinam.univ-fcomte.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA24425 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 00:10:20 GMT Message-Id: <200011030010.AAA24425@utinam.univ-fcomte.fr> X-Sender: petiard@erdos.univ-fcomte.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 23:49:48 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Fran=E7ois?= Subject: Re: missing fonts solve Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id SAA01781 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:28 02/11/00 -0800, you wrote: > >OK, it may have just been a case of being frantic because what had >worked now doesn't, but running pdflatex on the sample file I posted >*does* work, i.e. the pdf file is complete and readable. >I ran 'allneeded' on my tex directories and it seems to have fixed this >issue. > >BUT: >I do still have this problem with a seminar class file. > >I'm not sure exactly why this is; I think I can see some information >in the log file, but I don't know how to interpret it (I've attached the >.tex file): In your tex file: \usepackage[pdftex]{color,graphicx} and not: \usepackage[dvips]{color,graphicx} -- Pétiard François Courriel : petiard@math.univ-fcomte.fr 3-Nov-2000 1:38:30-GMT,1477;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17221 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:38:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01898 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:48:57 -0500 Received: from gate002.lsu.edu (gate002.ocs.lsu.edu [130.39.75.29]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01895 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:48:56 -0500 Subject: problem with ps2pdf To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: luis@lsu.edu From: "Luis A Escobar" Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 18:51:37 -0600 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gate002.lsu.edu/LSU(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 11/02/2000 06:52:23 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I hope somebody can help me with this. I running Windows 2000 I upgraded Ghostscript to version 6.01 and GSview to version 3.4 When I tried to convert a xxx.ps file to a xxx.pdf file using (ps2pdf xxx.ps xxx.pdf) I get the following error message "Unable to open command line file _.at gsdll_init returns 1 Unable to open command line file _.at gsdll_init returns 1" What am I doing wrong? How can I fixed the problem? Thanks a lot for any help Regards Luis A. Louisiana State Univ 3-Nov-2000 3:31:02-GMT,1717;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19642 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 20:30:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02088 for pdftex-list; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:57:26 -0500 Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr (matups.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02085 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:57:24 -0500 Received: from topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (topodyn.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.70]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.11.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eA330ps23020 ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 04:00:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from lcs@localhost) by topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id EAA10867; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 04:00:51 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 04:00:51 +0100 (MET) From: Laurent Siebenmann Message-Id: <200011030300.EAA10867@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> To: kla@fh-landshut.de, lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: objects within bitmaps Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Herbert, > Concerning the successive labeling of a bitmap, let me once more > propose a simpler method and ask you, why it doesn't work properly: 1)...6) That's OK. If it works and you really find it simpler! Just one point to watch: No labelling tactic is quite as space efficient as the one that keeps the labels as a part of the main text of the article. Labels inside figure files lead to unsolved efficiency problems in font merging and partial font downloading. (See recent comments of Thanh for current status. Cheers Laurent S 3-Nov-2000 7:00:02-GMT,2472;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23802 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 00:00:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA02513 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:24:58 -0500 Received: from onsager.cop.uop.edu (onsager.cop.uop.edu [138.9.50.194]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02510 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:24:56 -0500 Received: (from mccallum@localhost) by onsager.cop.uop.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA28957; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:28:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 22:28:36 -0800 From: "C. Michael McCallum" To: P?tiard Fran?ois , pdfTeX mailing-list Subject: Re: missing fonts solve Message-ID: <20001102222836.A28949@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Reply-To: "C. Michael McCallum" References: <200011030010.AAA24425@utinam.univ-fcomte.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <200011030010.AAA24425@utinam.univ-fcomte.fr>; from petiard@math.univ-fcomte.fr on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 11:49:48PM +0100 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk * P?tiard Fran?ois (petiard@math.univ-fcomte.fr) [001102 17:48]: > At 12:28 02/11/00 -0800, you wrote: > > > >OK, it may have just been a case of being frantic because what had > >worked now doesn't, but running pdflatex on the sample file I posted > >*does* work, i.e. the pdf file is complete and readable. > >I ran 'allneeded' on my tex directories and it seems to have fixed this > >issue. > > > >BUT: > >I do still have this problem with a seminar class file. > > > >I'm not sure exactly why this is; I think I can see some information > >in the log file, but I don't know how to interpret it (I've attached the > >.tex file): > > In your tex file: > > \usepackage[pdftex]{color,graphicx} > > and not: > > \usepackage[dvips]{color,graphicx} > That is left over from running LaTeX. The file wouldn't run through pdflatex at all without the [pdftex] there, so it's some thing else. thanks, Mike -- C. Michael McCallum | Elegant does not mean correct; Associate Professor | it may simply mean that the Chemistry, UOP | result is simple *and* wrong. mmccallum@uop.edu | (209) 946-2393 | fax (209) 946-2607 3-Nov-2000 7:36:36-GMT,1172;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24874 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 00:36:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA02572 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 02:02:03 -0500 Received: from mail03 (mail03.edsamail.com.ph [210.16.71.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA02564 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 02:01:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200011030701.CAA02564@tug.org> Received: (qmail 19031 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 06:02:14 -0000 Received: from mother.edsamail.com (HELO edsamail.com.ph) (210.16.71.4) by mail03.edsamail.com.ph with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 06:02:14 -0000 X-Mailer: Edsamail 1.3 (Build 915) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:10:32 +0800 From: "Rebecca U Ong" To: "pdftex" , "MiKTeX" Subject: [MiKTeX]: Converting Tex File to Postscript File Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk How do I convert Tex file to Postscript file? Rebecca __________________________________ www.edsamail.com 3-Nov-2000 8:59:59-GMT,1577;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26491 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 01:59:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA02730 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 03:25:02 -0500 Received: from Chipp-Inet.westsig.co.uk ([194.202.152.199]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA02727 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 03:25:00 -0500 From: david.waller@westsig.co.uk Subject: Re: [MiKTeX]: Converting Tex File to Postscript File To: rebecca_ong@edsamail.com.ph Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4a July 24, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:23:33 +0000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Chipp-Inet/SRV/WSL/Rail(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 11/03/2000 08:29:57 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Rebecca, You need to process your tex file as normal to produce a .dvi file Then run dvips on your .dvi file. Dvips is part of the normal Tex distribution so should be available. Dave Waller "Rebecca U Ong" @tug.org on 02/11/2000 06:10:32 Sent by: owner-pdftex@tug.org To: "pdftex" , "MiKTeX" cc: Subject: [MiKTeX]: Converting Tex File to Postscript File How do I convert Tex file to Postscript file? Rebecca __________________________________ www.edsamail.com 3-Nov-2000 10:24:38-GMT,1897;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28259 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 03:24:36 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA02877 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 04:47:58 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA02874 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 04:47:56 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13rdVM-0001aJ-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2000 09:51:24 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13rdVN-0000fh-00; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:51:25 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14850.35546.764366.673319@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:52:26 +0000 To: mmccallum@uop.edu Cc: tetex@informatik.uni-hannover.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Fonts not showing up in pdflatex (was re-installed, help) In-Reply-To: <20001102100103.A926@onsager.cop.uop.edu> References: <20001102100103.A926@onsager.cop.uop.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk C. Michael McCallum writes: > I've included a really simple file: .tex, corresponding generated > .pdf and the log file. > > Again, I apologize if this is not the appropriate group; I'm sending it > to the pdftex list also. regardless of group, I don't think anyone approves of attaching files on messages to lists. this is what God gave us web sites for, to put samples where interested parties can pick them up. Sebastian 3-Nov-2000 10:26:18-GMT,4092;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA28298 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 03:26:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA02886 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 04:52:19 -0500 Received: from epsilon.dynaweb.de (epsilon.dynaweb.de [195.88.176.162]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA02883 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 04:52:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 62336 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2000 09:55:44 -0000 Received: from p3ee29469.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO servus) (62.226.148.105) by epsilon.dynaweb.de with SMTP; 3 Nov 2000 09:55:44 -0000 Message-ID: <003c01c0457c$3b127320$78e2fea9@servus> Reply-To: "Ulrich Dirr" From: "Ulrich Dirr" To: "pdfTeX" , "Han The Thanh" References: <200011021939.UAA20464@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdfTeX] help on MM font setup Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:55:42 +0100 Organization: Art & Satz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'm using Windows, but I also have a Linux partition installed (and I have the mmtools/mminstance; actually these programs were the reason for me to buy/install Linux!). So it would be nice if you could send me the scripts. Do I need the modified mktextfm too? These special features of pdfTeX are ***really*** great and very interesting for me. Are you planning in the future to build these features into the program (to be platform independent; it would be great if scaling and generating instances could be made on the fly)? Is it on your to-do list to implement the kerning features of the (virtual) kf-program? Ulrich -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstraße 9 81369 München Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=*:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Han The Thanh" To: Cc: "pdfTeX" Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [pdfTeX] help on MM font setup > > I've looked in the docs and previous mails but did not find an answer. > > > > How can I setup Multiple Master fonts (Windows; fpTeX v0.4; pdfTeX v0.14h) > > so that they're useable with pdfTeX? I want to test them with the HZ > > features of pdfTeX. > > > > I've tried these map file entries > > > > JER__J4E AJensonMM "LY1 ReEncodeFont" > JEEXPRJD AJensonMM-Ep "LY1 ReEncodeFont" > > > resulting in > > > > Error: pdflatex.exe (file i:/TeX/texmf-local/fonts/type1/jer_____.pfb): > > a number expected: > > `/FontBBox{{-96 -126 -99 -105 -82 -98 }{-284 -284 -286 -275 -298 -285 }{1065 > > 1211 1060 1062 1040 1043 }{836 821 820 840 782 805 }}def' > > this will be rather complicated. Here is what I have in my enviroment: > > 1) a modified version of tetex' mktextfm that can recognize the expanded > names (like cmr10+20 or pmnr8z-20). When such a font is to be generated, > another script called mktextfm.ext will be called; otherwise the font will > be generated in the `normal' way as tetex does. > > 2) mktextfm.ext examines the font type (mf, t1 or mm instance) and generate > the corresponding resouces. For mf font it creates a copy of the original > mf with the width unit increased by the required amount. mm instances are > created using mminstance; t1 fonts are expanded by horizontal scaling. > > 3) in case of t1/mm fonts; the metrics are generated by another script > according to the encoding of the font. I have setup a script for il2 > encoding (8z in fontname) only. > > 4) setup map entries for t1/mm instances. > > I can send of those script to those who are interested; but probably it > makes sense only for unix users. > > Thanh > 3-Nov-2000 12:13:36-GMT,1800;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00274 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 05:13:32 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA02995 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:34:07 -0500 Received: from relay1.jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA02992 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:34:05 -0500 Received: from tiger (tiger.jet.msk.su) [193.124.4.1] by relay1.jet.msk.su with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 13rfA2-0006Y4-00; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:37:30 +0300 Received: from david.service.jet.msk.su [192.168.10.103] (root) by tiger.jet.msk.su with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 13rfA2-000584-00; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:37:30 +0300 Received: from tobotras by david.service.jet.msk.su with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13rfA2-00009y-00; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:37:30 +0300 To: S2P development Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: TIPA font References: <39FE8D12.790AE95A@wkap.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Boris Tobotras Date: 03 Nov 2000 14:37:29 +0300 In-Reply-To: S2P development's message of "Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:12:50 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Arches" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "S2P" == S2P development writes: S2P> There are no pfb versions of the tipa fonts available. Hmm, if memory serves me right, last time I needed it, I've got TIPA fonts from Summer Institute of Linguistics site (www.sil.org)... -- Best regards, -- Boris. 3-Nov-2000 12:25:17-GMT,2719;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00494 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 05:25:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03028 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:49:16 -0500 Received: from life.ai.mit.edu (life.ai.mit.edu [128.52.32.80]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03025 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:49:14 -0500 Received: from MAURITIUS.tiac.net (maui [128.52.37.105]) by life.ai.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/AI2.13/ai.master.life:2.21) with ESMTP id GAA02890 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:52:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20001103065426.024836e8@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 06:56:37 -0500 To: pdftex list From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: [pdfTeX] help on MM font setup In-Reply-To: References: <001901c044c1$ee908740$78e2fea9@servus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi: By the way, it is important to realize that the resulting MM font instances are not ATM compatible and hence not of much use systems with system level support for scalable finds (Windows and the Macintosh). On the other hand, those systems have ATM, which provides proper support for MM fonts. Regards, Berthold. At 02:43 PM 11/2/2000 -0500, you wrote: >You need to make an instance of the MM font before pdftex can use it. See >http://www.lcdf.org/~eddietwo/type/#mmtools for a suite of tools for >interpolating MM fonts. I don't know of anyone whos has ported these tools to >Windows. Perhaps Fabrice Popineau has already done so (but I don't see >them in >the fpTeX distro). > >Regards, > >Tom > >On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Ulrich Dirr wrote: > > > > > How can I setup Multiple Master fonts (Windows; fpTeX v0.4; pdfTeX v0.14h) > > so that they're useable with pdfTeX? I want to test them with the HZ > > features of pdfTeX. > > > > I've tried these map file entries > > > > JER__J4E AJensonMM "LY1 ReEncodeFont" > JEEXPRJD AJensonMM-Ep "LY1 ReEncodeFont" > > > resulting in > > > > Error: pdflatex.exe (file i:/TeX/texmf-local/fonts/type1/jer_____.pfb): > > a number expected: > > `/FontBBox{{-96 -126 -99 -105 -82 -98 }{-284 -284 -286 -275 -298 -285 > }{1065 > > 1211 1060 1062 1040 1043 }{836 821 820 840 782 805 }}def' > > > > -- Y&Y, Inc. Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com (MT) 3-Nov-2000 14:01:19-GMT,2045;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02369 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 07:01:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA03120 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:24:12 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03117 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:24:09 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13rgxh-0008M0-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:32:53 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA06580 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:26:03 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13rgqE-004wwRC; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:25:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:25:10 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Too many open files Message-ID: <20001103142510.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, the jobs I produce may include _many_ pdf files. Many means >256, quite possibly >1024, but < 65535. Would it be possible for pdfTeX to close the files once they are read, i.e. after this: <./273.pdf, id=241, page=1, 17.06375pt x 17.06375pt> ? Thanks in advance Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 3-Nov-2000 17:33:03-GMT,2086;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08165 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:33:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03388 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:56:37 -0500 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03385 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:56:35 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.213]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3GKK201.P9N; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:00:02 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 17:53:42 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Too many open files Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20001103142510.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA03386 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 02:25 PM 11/3/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >Hi, >the jobs I produce may include _many_ pdf files. Many means >256, >quite possibly >1024, but < 65535. Would it be possible for >pdfTeX to close the files once they are read, i.e. after this: ><./273.pdf, id=241, page=1, 17.06375pt x 17.06375pt> ? What exactly is the problem? I make docs with >>256 figs and have no problems. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-2000 17:43:05-GMT,2534;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08491 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:43:04 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03410 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:08:57 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03407 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:08:55 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13rkTH-00024D-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:17:43 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id SAA09299 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:09:04 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13rkKl-004wwRC; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:08:55 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 18:08:55 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: Too many open files Message-ID: <20001103180855.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <20001103142510.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 05:53:42PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-11-03 17:53:42 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 02:25 PM 11/3/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > >the jobs I produce may include _many_ pdf files. Many means >256, > >quite possibly >1024, but < 65535. Would it be possible for > >pdfTeX to close the files once they are read, i.e. after this: > ><./273.pdf, id=241, page=1, 17.06375pt x 17.06375pt> 1> ? > > What exactly is the problem? I make docs with >>256 figs and have no > problems. They are all on one page. The document will always have only page. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 3-Nov-2000 18:20:40-GMT,2402;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09479 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:20:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03485 for pdftex-list; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:46:29 -0500 Received: from onsager.cop.uop.edu (onsager.cop.uop.edu [138.9.50.194]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03482 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:46:27 -0500 Received: (from mccallum@localhost) by onsager.cop.uop.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA29570 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:50:11 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:50:11 -0800 From: "C. Michael McCallum" To: pdfTeX mailing-list Subject: Re: Fonts not showing up in pdflatex (was re-installed, help) Message-ID: <20001103095011.B29552@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Reply-To: "C. Michael McCallum" References: <20001102100103.A926@onsager.cop.uop.edu> <14850.35546.764366.673319@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <14850.35546.764366.673319@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk>; from sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 09:52:26AM +0000 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk * Sebastian Rahtz (sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk) [001103 04:46]: > C. Michael McCallum writes: > > I've included a really simple file: .tex, corresponding generated > > .pdf and the log file. > > > > Again, I apologize if this is not the appropriate group; I'm sending it > > to the pdftex list also. > > regardless of group, I don't think anyone approves of attaching files > on messages to lists. this is what God gave us web sites for, to put > samples where interested parties can pick them up. > > Sebastian OK, I did not know this. I belong to many lists, and attachments are not a problem with them. In fact, someone here asked me to attach the files, and being a newbie to this list, I was not aware of the restriction. Cheers, Mike -- C. Michael McCallum | Elegant does not mean correct; Associate Professor | it may simply mean that the Chemistry, UOP | result is simple *and* wrong. mmccallum@uop.edu | (209) 946-2393 | fax (209) 946-2607 4-Nov-2000 18:41:20-GMT,2085;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07601 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:41:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA05761 for pdftex-list; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:00:32 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05758 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:00:30 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10254; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:04:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04035; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:04:02 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200011041804.TAA04035@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Too many open files In-Reply-To: <20001103180855.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> from =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= at "Nov 3, 0 06:08:55 pm" To: ms@artcom-gmbh.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?=) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:04:01 +0100 (MET) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > On 2000-11-03 17:53:42 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > > At 02:25 PM 11/3/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > > >the jobs I produce may include _many_ pdf files. Many means >256, > > >quite possibly >1024, but < 65535. Would it be possible for > > >pdfTeX to close the files once they are read, i.e. after this: > > ><./273.pdf, id=241, page=1, 17.06375pt x 17.06375pt> > 1> ? > > > > What exactly is the problem? I make docs with >>256 figs and have no > > problems. > > They are all on one page. The document will always have only > page. try to include the images using \immmediately to write each image and close the file immmediately. Then use all of them by \pdfrefximage. Thanh 4-Nov-2000 19:03:51-GMT,2427;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08046 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:03:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA05800 for pdftex-list; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:29:45 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05797 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:29:41 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13s833-0002hZ-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2000 18:28:13 +0000 Received: from max87.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.87] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13s832-00078h-00; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:28:12 +0000 X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14852.1079.258165.289761@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:42:31 +0000 (GMT) To: mmccallum@uop.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Fonts not showing up in pdflatex (was re-installed, help) In-Reply-To: <20001103095011.B29552@onsager.cop.uop.edu> References: <20001102100103.A926@onsager.cop.uop.edu> <14850.35546.764366.673319@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20001103095011.B29552@onsager.cop.uop.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk C. Michael McCallum writes: > > regardless of group, I don't think anyone approves of attaching files > > on messages to lists. this is what God gave us web sites for, to put > > samples where interested parties can pick them up. > OK, I did not know this. I belong to many lists, and attachments are not > a problem with them. In fact, someone here asked me to attach the files, > and being a newbie to this list, I was not aware of the restriction. it isn't a restriction per se. its just good manners not to fill people's mailboxes (many people pay real money, remember, for their connection time). what the system *does* do is restrict the length of post you can amek, which is why I commented to you - the bounced message comes back to me as list owner sebastian 5-Nov-2000 1:00:44-GMT,2075;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13997 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:00:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06192 for pdftex-list; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:25:19 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA06189 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:25:17 -0500 Received: from remote142-25.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.25] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13sDg2-000225-00; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 01:28:50 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001104222740.44bf7fb6@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 22:27:40 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , PDF-TeX mailing list From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: \pdfpageresources In-Reply-To: <20001101114551.M13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024160726.A13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001025100957.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id TAA06190 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:45 01.11.2000 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >\pdfpageresources seems to be local; at least inside a group it >needs a \global prefix to appear in the PDF. Bug or feature? Feature. It is easy to make it global by the \global prefix. But try make a global command local ... Yours sincerely Heiko 5-Nov-2000 1:00:49-GMT,1859;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14009 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:00:48 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06197 for pdftex-list; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:25:22 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA06194 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:25:20 -0500 Received: from remote142-25.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.25] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13sDg4-000225-00; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 01:28:52 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001104223627.449730c8@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 22:36:27 +0100 To: "Luis A Escobar" , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: problem with ps2pdf Cc: luis@lsu.edu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 18:51 02.11.2000 -0600, Luis A Escobar wrote: > > I upgraded Ghostscript to version 6.01 and > GSview to version 3.4 > > When I tried to convert a xxx.ps file to a xxx.pdf file using > (ps2pdf xxx.ps xxx.pdf) > > I get the following error message > >"Unable to open command line file _.at >gsdll_init returns 1 >Unable to open command line file _.at >gsdll_init returns 1" If I remember correctly, I had a similar problem with Linux, the solution was an update of the ps2pdf* files to the versions that comes with ghostscript 6.01, because they have changed. Yours sincerely Heiko 5-Nov-2000 4:24:49-GMT,1918;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17425 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 21:24:43 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA06420 for pdftex-list; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 22:49:18 -0500 Received: from jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp [157.13.51.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06417 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 22:49:12 -0500 Received: by jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-kfsci) id MAA03308; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:53:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200011050353.MAA03308@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: problem with ps2pdf In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 04 Nov 2000 22:36:27 +0100" References: <3.0.1.16.20001104223627.449730c8@localhost> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 12:53:44 +0900 From: Akira Kakuto Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > At 18:51 02.11.2000 -0600, Luis A Escobar wrote: > > > > I upgraded Ghostscript to version 6.01 and > > GSview to version 3.4 > > > > When I tried to convert a xxx.ps file to a xxx.pdf file using > > (ps2pdf xxx.ps xxx.pdf) > > > > I get the following error message > > > >"Unable to open command line file _.at > >gsdll_init returns 1 > >Unable to open command line file _.at > >gsdll_init returns 1" > > If I remember correctly, I had a similar problem > with Linux, the solution was an update of the > ps2pdf* files to the versions that comes with > ghostscript 6.01, because they have changed. > The problem is windows-specific one. A line rem >_.at in ps2pdf.bat of GS-6.01 should be copy nul _.at Akira 5-Nov-2000 21:55:38-GMT,2471;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04177 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:55:36 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08309 for pdftex-list; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:17:30 -0500 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08306 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:17:28 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.147.213]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3KLYA02.AGE; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 22:20:34 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001105210928.018d5a80@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 21:09:28 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Too many open files Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20001103180855.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> <20001103142510.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id QAA08307 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 06:08 PM 11/3/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-11-03 17:53:42 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> At 02:25 PM 11/3/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >> >the jobs I produce may include _many_ pdf files. Many means >256, >> >quite possibly >1024, but < 65535. Would it be possible for >> >pdfTeX to close the files once they are read, i.e. after this: >> ><./273.pdf, id=241, page=1, 17.06375pt x 17.06375pt> > 1> ? >> >> What exactly is the problem? I make docs with >>256 figs and have no >> problems. > >They are all on one page. The document will always have only >page. How about making them in a few passes? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Nov-2000 21:55:38-GMT,2536;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04178 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:55:36 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08305 for pdftex-list; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:17:25 -0500 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08302 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:17:23 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.147.213]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3KLYE02.GAA; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 22:20:38 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001105212336.01b4f500@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 21:23:36 +0100 To: Heiko Oberdiek From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: \pdfpageresources Cc: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20001104222740.44bf7fb6@localhost> References: <20001101114551.M13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024160726.A13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001025100957.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id QAA08303 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:27 PM 11/4/00 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >At 11:45 01.11.2000 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > >>\pdfpageresources seems to be local; at least inside a group it >>needs a \global prefix to appear in the PDF. Bug or feature? > >Feature. It is easy to make it global by the \global prefix. >But try make a global command local ... Well, there is \globaldef -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Nov-2000 12:17:11-GMT,2527;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA19286 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 05:17:09 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA09939 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:22:49 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA09936 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:22:47 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13skV6-0000bw-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:31:44 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA08405 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:25:03 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13skNj-004wwRC; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:24:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:24:07 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: Too many open files Message-ID: <20001106122407.C18412@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> <20001103142510.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> <20001103180855.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001105210928.018d5a80@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001105210928.018d5a80@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 09:09:28PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-11-05 21:09:28 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 06:08 PM 11/3/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > >They are all on one page. The document will always have only > >page. > > How about making them in a few passes? That would be very difficult. I have no real placement information about the images; they are places by applying transformations to the images. Also Thanh's solution works. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 6-Nov-2000 16:08:03-GMT,2473;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23848 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:08:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10349 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:24:27 -0500 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10346 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:24:25 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id QAA17322; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:27:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id QAA12840; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:27:13 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:27:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200011061527.QAA12840@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Y&Y Support Cc: pdftex list Subject: Re: [pdfTeX] help on MM font setup In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20001103065426.024836e8@pop.tiac.net> References: <001901c044c1$ee908740$78e2fea9@servus> <5.0.0.25.2.20001103065426.024836e8@pop.tiac.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Concernant « Re: [pdfTeX] help on MM font setup », Y&Y Support écrit : « » Hi: » » By the way, it is important to realize that the resulting MM font instances » are not ATM compatible and hence not of much use systems with » system level support for scalable finds (Windows and the Macintosh). Well, certainly, but what relevance to pdftex? The fact is that the PDF format doesn't support MM fonts, so either you do PS then distiller will generate instances on the fly -- this is something that can be done with pdftex in dvi mode, btw -- or you need to have prebuilt instances for non-atm/distiller aware programs like pdftex. » On the other hand, those systems have ATM, which provides proper » support for MM fonts. as long as the programs you use can access ATM features... Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 6-Nov-2000 16:51:23-GMT,2536;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25127 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:51:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10463 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:16:30 -0500 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10460 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:16:27 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.22.248]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3M2P900.KXQ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:19:57 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001106171750.0158b100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:17:50 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Too many open files Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20001106122407.C18412@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001105210928.018d5a80@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> <20001103142510.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> <20001103180855.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001105210928.018d5a80@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA10461 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:24 PM 11/6/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-11-05 21:09:28 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> At 06:08 PM 11/3/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >> >They are all on one page. The document will always have only >> >page. >> >> How about making them in a few passes? > >That would be very difficult. I have no real placement >information about the images; they are places by applying >transformations to the images. Also Thanh's solution works. I sort of assumed that you already did an \immediate, since that's what I do and never have problems, sorry -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Nov-2000 17:36:18-GMT,2833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26489 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 10:36:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10555 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:33:40 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10552 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:33:38 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13spLw-0003Ce-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:42:36 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA14044 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:36:15 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13spEt-004wwRC; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:35:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:35:19 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: Too many open files Message-ID: <20001106173519.C11774@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <3.0.6.32.20001105210928.018d5a80@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> <20001103142510.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> <20001103180855.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001105210928.018d5a80@pop.wxs.nl> <20001106122407.C18412@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001106171750.0158b100@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001106171750.0158b100@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 05:17:50PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-11-06 17:17:50 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 12:24 PM 11/6/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > >That would be very difficult. I have no real placement > >information about the images; they are places by applying > >transformations to the images. Also Thanh's solution works. > > I sort of assumed that you already did an \immediate, since that's what I > do and never have problems, sorry -) I'm simply doing a glorified \includegraphics (you could have guessed this :-). And the code in pdftex.def currently is not \immediate (my version is now). Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 6-Nov-2000 23:39:25-GMT,2994;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06672 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:39:22 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11169 for pdftex-list; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:56:29 -0500 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11166 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:56:27 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.146.181]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3ML7800.3A6; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 23:59:32 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001106234831.014eac30@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 23:48:31 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Too many open files Cc: PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <20001106173519.C11774@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001106171750.0158b100@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001105210928.018d5a80@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> <20001103142510.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001103175342.0157d100@pop.wxs.nl> <20001103180855.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001105210928.018d5a80@pop.wxs.nl> <20001106122407.C18412@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001106171750.0158b100@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id RAA11167 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 05:35 PM 11/6/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-11-06 17:17:50 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> At 12:24 PM 11/6/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >> >That would be very difficult. I have no real placement >> >information about the images; they are places by applying >> >transformations to the images. Also Thanh's solution works. >> >> I sort of assumed that you already did an \immediate, since that's what I >> do and never have problems, sorry -) > >I'm simply doing a glorified \includegraphics (you could have >guessed this :-). And the code in pdftex.def currently is not >\immediate (my version is now). Since latex loads supp-pdf, you can see there how to include a graphic in pdf code, since I define [for the sake of downward comp] \pdfimage. (saves you some overhead too since you know that you will only handle pdf code and it shows how to use immediate). Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Nov-2000 11:42:30-GMT,3628;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA19888 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 04:40:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA12522 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 05:44:27 -0500 Received: from pier.botik.ru (root@pier.botik.ru [193.232.174.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12519 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 05:44:24 -0500 Received: from rustex.botik.ru([193.232.174.183]) ident znamensk by pier.botik.ru (Smail-3.2.0.98/botik-0.15 1999-Sep-9 #28) with esmtp for id m13t6IC-001GMjC; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:47:52 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:54:21 +0300 (MSK) From: "Sergei V. Znamenskii" To: Han The Thanh cc: pdfTeX Subject: pdftex crashes on inputenc+exerquis In-Reply-To: <200002151124.MAA20051@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would like to use the excelent combination of pdftex and exerquiz in Russan. Unfortunately I have found a problem I can not sove myself: Pdftex crashes on the very simple test file: %------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \documentclass{article} \usepackage[T2A]{fontenc} \usepackage[koi8-r]{inputenc} \usepackage[pdftex]{web} \usepackage{exerquiz} \title{Test} \author{Ya} \begin{document} Test \end{document} %------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It prints %------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14g-pretest-20000912 (Web2C 7.3.2.2) (./test.tex{pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <2000/06/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, r ussian, nohyphenation, loaded. (./article.cls Document Class: article 2000/05/19 v1.4b Standard LaTeX document class (./size10.clo)) (./fontenc.sty (./t2aenc.def) (./t2acmr.fd)) (./inputenc.sty (./koi8-r.def)) (./web.sty (./color.sty (./color.cfg) (./pdftex.def)) (./amssymb.sty (./amsfonts.sty)) (./hyperref.sty (./keyval.sty) (./pd1enc.def) Implicit mode ON; LaTeX internals redefined (./backref.sty) (./url.sty)) *hyperref using driver hpdftex* (./hpdftex.def (./pifont.sty (./upzd.fd) (./upsy.fd)))) (./exerquiz.sty (./verbatim.sty) exerquiz: * Using pdftex option * (./epdftex.def)) (./test.aux) (./supp-pdf.tex (./supp-mis.tex loading : Context Support Macros / Missing ) loading : Context Support Macros / PDF ) (./nameref.sty) (./test.out) (./test.out){psfonts.map}{lw35.map}{rawfonts.map } (./t2acmss.fd) ! pdfTeX error (arithmetic): divided by zero. \MakeFieldObject ...x 0{#1}\immediate \pdfxform 0 \expandafter \edef \csname... l.16 \begin{document} Segmentation fault %------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the log under linux. I have tested also this and two ollder versions of this year under Windows-98 and got almost the same result: it crashes with windows exceptions error. Old pdftex-13d under linux eat this file with the same inputs without errors. All inputs have been taken from the fpTeX distributin last week on CTAN excep the exerquiz package which has been got from D.P. Story site last week. Do anybody have any suggessins? With a greate hope and the Best wishes, Sergei --- Sergei V. Znamenskii znamensk@rustex.botik.ru 7-Nov-2000 20:43:59-GMT,2415;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02092 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:43:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13718 for pdftex-list; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:52:57 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13715 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:52:55 -0500 Received: from remote142-179.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.179] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13tEr7-0007Si-00; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:56:30 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001107193401.08d7fe0e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 19:34:01 +0100 To: Hans Hagen From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: \pdfpageresources Cc: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001105212336.01b4f500@pop.wxs.nl> References: <3.0.1.16.20001104222740.44bf7fb6@localhost> <20001101114551.M13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024160726.A13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001025100957.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id OAA13716 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 21:23 05.11.2000 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >At 10:27 PM 11/4/00 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >>At 11:45 01.11.2000 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >> >>>\pdfpageresources seems to be local; at least inside a group it >>>needs a \global prefix to appear in the PDF. Bug or feature? >> >>Feature. It is easy to make it global by the \global prefix. >>But try make a global command local ... > >Well, there is \globaldef -) But AFAIK it does not work for primitive commands, that always acts globally. Regards Heiko 8-Nov-2000 16:39:05-GMT,3213;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25913 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:39:04 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15835 for pdftex-list; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 10:27:45 -0500 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15832 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 10:27:44 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.26]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3PPS900.NKS; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:31:21 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001108094122.014ffa40@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:41:22 +0100 To: Heiko Oberdiek From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: \pdfpageresources Cc: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= , PDF-TeX mailing list In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20001107193401.08d7fe0e@localhost> References: <3.0.6.32.20001105212336.01b4f500@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.1.16.20001104222740.44bf7fb6@localhost> <20001101114551.M13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001023120927.F13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001024160726.A13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001024184412.01b299b0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001025100957.B13499@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001025144138.008ef7c0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id KAA15833 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 07:34 PM 11/7/00 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >At 21:23 05.11.2000 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >>At 10:27 PM 11/4/00 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >>>At 11:45 01.11.2000 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >>> >>>>\pdfpageresources seems to be local; at least inside a group it >>>>needs a \global prefix to appear in the PDF. Bug or feature? >>> >>>Feature. It is easy to make it global by the \global prefix. >>>But try make a global command local ... >> >>Well, there is \globaldef -) > >But AFAIK it does not work for primitive commands, >that always acts globally. \showthe\pdfpageresources {\pdfpageresources{abc}} \showthe\pdfpageresources {\globaldefs=1\pdfpageresources{abc} \globaldefs=0} \showthe\pdfpageresources There are some assignments that are always global (fontdimens, a few integers) or semi global (box dimensions) but \everypar, \output and alike are just like any other register. In this respect, \pdfpageresources behaves natural. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Nov-2000 3:11:16-GMT,2067;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12916 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:11:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17230 for pdftex-list; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:19:41 -0500 Received: from apicra.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-3.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.155]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17227 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:19:36 -0500 Received: from amyris.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.150) by apicra.wanadoo.fr; 9 Nov 2000 03:23:25 +0100 Received: from NEVERYON.ese-metz.fr (213.56.250.200) by amyris.wanadoo.fr; 8 Nov 2000 21:16:01 +0100 To: "Sergei V. Znamenskii" Cc: Han The Thanh , pdfTeX Subject: Re: pdftex crashes on inputenc+exerquis References: From: Fabrice Popineau Date: 08 Nov 2000 21:15:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Sergei V. Znamenskii"'s message of "Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:54:21 +0300 (MSK)" Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.2 (Notus) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk * Sergei V Znamenskii writes: > Hi, I would like to use the excelent combination of pdftex and > exerquiz in Russan. Unfortunately I have found a problem I can not > sove myself: > Pdftex crashes on the very simple test file: ... > %------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14g-pretest-20000912 (Web2C 7.3.2.2) On what platform ? This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-pretest-20001004 (Web2c 7.3.3.1) (./foo.tex{d:/Local/TeXLive/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} LaTeX2e <2000/06/01> ... Output written on foo.pdf (1 page, 12902 bytes). Transcript written on foo.log. This is on win32, and it is running ok. Fabrice 9-Nov-2000 6:15:36-GMT,2342;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16750 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:15:34 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA17927 for pdftex-list; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:24:45 -0500 Received: from pier.botik.ru (root@pier.botik.ru [193.232.174.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17924 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:24:41 -0500 Received: from rustex.botik.ru([193.232.174.183]) ident znamensk by pier.botik.ru (Smail-3.2.0.98/botik-0.15 1999-Sep-9 #28) with esmtp for id m13tkG4-0002XHC; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 08:28:20 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 08:35:11 +0300 (MSK) From: "Sergei V. Znamenskii" To: Fabrice Popineau cc: Han The Thanh , pdfTeX Subject: Re: pdftex crashes on inputenc+exerquis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Yesterday You (Fabrice Popineau) wrote: FP> On what platform ? Sorry, I almost have answered this question in my first letter: > This is the log under linux. I have tested also this and > two ollder versions of this > year under Windows-98 and got almost the same result: it > crashes with windows > exceptions error. Old pdftex-13d under linux eat this file > with the same inputs without errors. Therefore I have supposed that the platfiorm does not matter in this case. The tested versions pdftex-20000525-linux (0.14f under Debian potato linux 2.2.10) pdftex-20000217-linux (0.14e under Debian potato linux 2.2.10) pdftex-0.14g-pretest-20000912-win32 (fptex/standalong ) have had the same effect. FP> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-pretest-20001004 (Web2c 7.3.3.1) FP> (./foo.tex{d:/Local/TeXLive/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg} FP> LaTeX2e <2000/06/01> FP> ... FP> Output written on foo.pdf (1 page, 12902 bytes). FP> Transcript written on foo.log. FP> FP> This is on win32, and it is running ok. Thank You very much. I shall get the newest version, explore the situation and report later. Sergei 9-Nov-2000 13:04:32-GMT,1641;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA24783 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 06:04:31 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA18590 for pdftex-list; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 07:27:12 -0500 Received: from pier.botik.ru (root@pier.botik.ru [193.232.174.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18587 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 07:27:10 -0500 Received: from rustex.botik.ru([193.232.174.183]) ident znamensk by pier.botik.ru (Smail-3.2.0.98/botik-0.15 1999-Sep-9 #28) with esmtp for id m13tqqb-001RUjC; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:30:29 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:37:23 +0300 (MSK) From: "Sergei V. Znamenskii" To: Fabrice Popineau cc: Han The Thanh , pdfTeX Subject: Re: pdftex crashes on inputenc+exerquis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thank You for Your support, Fabrice! On Yesterday You (Fabrice Popineau) wrote: FP> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14h-pretest-20001004 (Web2c 7.3.3.1) ... FP> This is on win32, and it is running ok. Yes, it works!!! No problems under win32 now! It is Wpnderfull! I hope, a future pdftex version under Linux will work also. Sergei -- Sergei V. Znamenskii 11-Nov-2000 6:51:25-GMT,1564;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20250 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:51:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA22800 for pdftex-list; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:32:36 -0500 Received: from gauss.math.montana.edu (gilles@gauss.math.montana.edu [153.90.245.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22797 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:32:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (gilles@localhost) by gauss.math.montana.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA03124 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:36:29 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:36:29 -0700 (MST) From: Luc Gilles To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: ps2pdf page orientation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Tex User Group Member, Thanks for maintaining the mailing list and user group. I am trying to change the page orientation to landscape when generating a pdf file from a ps using ps2pdf (the ps was created from dvips). My ps file has the correct landscape orientation but the pdf has the wrong orientation (portrait). It looks like acroread 4 doesn't have the option to rotate page orientation. I haven't found in the ps2pdf man page a fix for this; maybe you have an idea. Thank you for your time. Best regards, -Luc 11-Nov-2000 11:24:12-GMT,1545;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24728 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 04:24:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA23258 for pdftex-list; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:48:26 -0500 Received: from gate2-b.volkswagen.de (gate2-b.volkswagen.de [193.23.96.7]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA23255 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:48:23 -0500 Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by gate2-b.volkswagen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA16325; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:52:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from Volkswagen by relay2.volkswagen.de, id smtpdAAAEpJo6_; Sat Nov 11 11:52:11 2000 Received: by devwagwodx0008.wob.vw.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:52:10 +0100 Message-ID: <478C61465902D411A05A0008C791F484EF6B62@devwagwodx0007.wob.vw.de> From: "Bodsch, Norbert" To: "'miktex@dsts.dk'" , "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: AcroReader Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:52:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, does anyone know how to generate a new version of a pdf file by pdftex while the old version is currently opened in Acrobat Reader? You know, the pdf file can't be written, and it's bothersome to close AcroReader each time. Regards Norbert 11-Nov-2000 16:29:48-GMT,2037;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29312 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 09:29:47 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23602 for pdftex-list; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:47:02 -0500 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23599 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:46:59 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.95]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3VAOC01.X7M; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:50:36 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001111164436.0126b580@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:44:36 +0100 To: "Bodsch, Norbert" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: AcroReader Cc: "'miktex@dsts.dk'" , "'pdftex@tug.org'" In-Reply-To: <478C61465902D411A05A0008C791F484EF6B62@devwagwodx0007.wob. vw.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 11:52 AM 11/11/00 +0100, Bodsch, Norbert wrote: >Hi all, > >does anyone know how to generate a new version of a pdf file by pdftex while >the old version is currently opened in Acrobat Reader? You know, the pdf >file can't be written, and it's bothersome to close AcroReader each time. That's an old 'feature' -) This is just one reason why I use GSview (6+) all the time when testing / optimizing / layouting files. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-2000 18:50:41-GMT,2052;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01628 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:50:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23861 for pdftex-list; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:15:58 -0500 Received: from wizard.ucc.ie (wizard.ucc.ie [143.239.211.92]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23858 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:15:54 -0500 Received: from cs.ucc.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wizard.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08874; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:17:14 GMT Message-ID: <3A0D8D2A.FB7EA8D0@cs.ucc.ie> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:17:14 +0000 From: Frank Boehme X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bodsch, Norbert" CC: "'miktex@dsts.dk'" , "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: AcroReader References: <478C61465902D411A05A0008C791F484EF6B62@devwagwodx0007.wob.vw.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "Bodsch, Norbert" wrote: > > Hi all, > > does anyone know how to generate a new version of a pdf file by pdftex while > the old version is currently opened in Acrobat Reader? You know, the pdf > file can't be written, and it's bothersome to close AcroReader each time. In my setup (linux, teTeX) the pdf file gets written to by pdftex, no problem. The thing is, however, that acroreader does not automatically reload it after an update. You have to force that yourself by issuing keystrokes for 'close' followed by 'go back'. I do that by typing 'Ctrl-W' (close) followed by 'left arrow' (go back). Frank -- Dr Frank Boehme | Email: f.boehme@cs.ucc.ie National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163 Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113 Cork, Ireland | 11-Nov-2000 16:42:59-GMT,3061;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29512 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 09:42:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23688 for pdftex-list; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:09:20 -0500 Received: from gatesrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.11.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23685 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:09:18 -0500 Received: from kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (kommsrv [137.193.10.8]) by gatesrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08192; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:36:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from [137.193.225.217] (sauron.ET.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.225.217]) by kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA21351; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:36:52 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200011111536.QAA21351@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Subject: Re: stack size exceeded. Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:36:39 +0100 x-sender: e31bmaci@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Stefan Afting To: "Enrique Melendez Asensio" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA23686 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk A long time ago Enrique wrote: > >Hello all. > >On a certain document, involving quite an amount of included packages, I >get the message > >(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex >loading : Context Support Macros / Missing >! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=4000]. >>->\active@prefix > > \active@char> >l.453 \protect > >The original stack size was 300, and I myself increased the value, to no >effect. > >This is a pdftex problem, since tex seems to run undisturbed. I searched >the list archive and there certainly were messages (6) concerning this >parameter ---the questions only. For some reason, the answers (if any) >didn't reach the list. > >Can anyone help whith this? I can provide a sample file showing the >problem, or more information if that would help. > >To some extent, parameters stack_size and param_size are related, since >stack_size grows only if param_size also does, and then only to reach the >latter's value. So maybe there are other related parameters I am missing. > >Thanks in advance, >Enrique Now I have the same problem. Unfortunately nobody answered to his posting. Does anybody know how to fix that now. Maybe Enrique has some ideas. Thanks, Stefan Stefan Afting | Institut fuer Nachrichtentechnik stefan.afting@unibw-muenchen.de | Universität der Bundeswehr Muenchen | 85577 Munich, Germany | fon +49 89 6004-3928 | fax +49 89 6004-3641 12-Nov-2000 3:39:04-GMT,3529;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10423 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:39:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24537 for pdftex-list; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:03:15 -0500 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24534 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:03:14 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09827 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 04:07:14 +0100 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc10.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.200]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09748 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 04:07:10 +0100 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23472 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:59:08 +0100 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:59:08 +0100 (MET) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: objects within bitmaps (part2) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I try to merge 2 pictures named "bitmap" and "labels" produced by XFIG (the bitmap was imported), that align correctly when merged within XFIG, but not, when being transferred to PDFs (using ps2pdf) and aligned within LATEX using the following code: \documentclass[...]{seminar} \usepackage[abs]{overpic} \setlength\unitlength{1mm} ... \begin{overpic}[scale=.25,grid,tics=5]{bitmap.pdf} \pause %Labels showing up only after the press of the button \put(0,0){\includegraphics[scale=.25]{labels.pdf}} \end{overpic} ... Thanks a lot, Mr. Moore, for your recommendations of WARMREADER based on XY. It seems mainly concerned with text and math labels. Is there any LINUX software to create the ".bb file" (containing the label coordinates) corresponding to the MacIntosh Zephyr? What I was looking for, tackles a slightly different issue: these are bitmaps of medical xrays, and they should be "labeled" by dotted and dashed lines thereby clarifying same hazy structures on these pictures (after pressing the "next-slide"-button). Now, on your advice, I tried \xyimport and read the xyrefer.ps and your www reference. Corresponding to the above code I tried: % the second picture must be labels.pdf to be transparent, not labels.png: \begin{xy} \xyimport(1,1)(1,1){\includegraphics[width=8cm,height=12cm]{bitmap.pdf}} \xyimport(1,1)(1,1){\includegraphics[width=8cm,height=12cm]{labels.pdf}} ,(0,0)*{\Red N} \end{xy} Again it results the same shifting and misalignment of the two bitmaps as with overpic. What am I doing wrong concerning the production and alignment of the bitmaps ? Moreover I could influence the bitmap's dimension only by the includegraphics arguments but not by the xyimport arguments. So what is the unit (no influence of "\setlength\unitlength{1cm}") and effect of the first (1,1) ? And concerning textlabels, (0,0) now seems at the right upper, but no longer at the left lower corner. I could only label the bitmap, using arbitrary steps of (-0.1,-0.1), and those steps seem quite large on the A4 page ... Thanks for any comment, Herbert 12-Nov-2000 8:33:31-GMT,2585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA15492 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 01:33:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA25204 for pdftex-list; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:55:35 -0500 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA25201 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:55:29 -0500 Received: from max130.public.ox.ac.uk (max130.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.130]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA05453; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:59:21 GMT Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:59:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Frank Boehme cc: "Bodsch, Norbert" , "'miktex@dsts.dk'" , "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: AcroReader In-Reply-To: <3A0D8D2A.FB7EA8D0@cs.ucc.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Frank Boehme wrote: > "Bodsch, Norbert" wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > does anyone know how to generate a new version of a pdf file by pdftex while > > the old version is currently opened in Acrobat Reader? You know, the pdf > > file can't be written, and it's bothersome to close AcroReader each time. > > In my setup (linux, teTeX) the pdf file gets written to by pdftex, no > problem. The thing is, however, that acroreader does not automatically > reload it after an update. You have to force that yourself by issuing > keystrokes for 'close' followed by 'go back'. I do that by typing > 'Ctrl-W' (close) followed by 'left arrow' (go back). Notice this was copied to a MikTeX list, and that's a Windows distribution. Windows (NT4 at least) has some more effective file locking, so you can't delete an open file (and generating a new version first deletes the old). You need to do this in the other order: close the file in acroread, re-generate then re-open (I use the recently used list). You don't need to exit the reader itself. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 13-Nov-2000 1:25:34-GMT,2441;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01448 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 18:25:33 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26892 for pdftex-list; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:14:23 -0500 Received: from e4e.oac.uci.edu (root@e4e.oac.uci.edu [128.200.222.10]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26888 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 19:14:21 -0500 Received: from uci.edu (IDENT:zender@dialin53b-29.ppp.uci.edu [128.195.186.169]) by e4e.oac.uci.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08628; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:18:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A0F334A.D952E317@uci.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:18:18 -0800 From: Charlie Zender Organization: University of California at Irvine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.text.tex To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Help installing pdftex 14g-pretest-20000912 onto tetex-1.07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I tried upgrading my RedHat Linux 7.0 tetex-1.07 installation to pdftex 14g-pretest-20000912. I am unable to regenerate the pdftex.fmt file. Here is what I did, download pdftex-20000912.tgz ./configure --prefix=/usr/share cd texk/web2c make pdftexbin (this all appeared to go smoothly) cp pdfetex pdftex ttf2afm pdftosrc /usr/bin cp pdfetex.pool pdftex.pool /usr/share/texmf/web2c cd /usr/share/texmf/web2c pdftex -ini -fmt=pdflatex latex.ltx (appeared to work fine) pdftex -ini -fmt=pdftex plain \dump This puts me into a terminal mode where I'm expected to type TeX commands. Having no idea what is expected, I just type \end to exit. The pdftex commands above come straight from the pdftex manual. I have no idea what they mean or how to generate a pdftex.fmt file using some other method. Note that this is all I have done, and, according to the pdftex manual, all that I can determine is necessary to install pdftex. So I appear to be stuck on the last step. Any help appreciated. Thanks! Charlie P.S. I crossposted this to pdftex mailing list which I would like to join but am unsure how. -- Charlie Zender zender@uci.edu (949) 824-2987/FAX-3256, Department of Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100 13-Nov-2000 3:31:28-GMT,1361;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03609 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:31:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27092 for pdftex-list; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:51:50 -0500 Received: from jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp [157.13.51.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27089 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 21:51:46 -0500 Received: by jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-kfsci) id LAA03805; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:56:58 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200011130256.LAA03805@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> To: zender@uci.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Newsgroups: comp.text.tex Subject: Re: Help installing pdftex 14g-pretest-20000912 onto tetex-1.07 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:18:18 -0800" References: <3A0F334A.D952E317@uci.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:56:56 +0900 From: Akira Kakuto Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > pdftex -ini -fmt=pdftex plain \dump pdftex -ini -fmt=pdftex plain \\dump Better is : fmtutil --byfmt pdftex Akira 13-Nov-2000 9:20:20-GMT,2590;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09543 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 02:20:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA27891 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 03:33:51 -0500 Received: from noa.csn.es (noa.csn.es [192.112.247.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27888 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 03:33:49 -0500 Received: from server1.csn.es (server1.csn.es [193.144.31.7]) by noa.csn.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18453; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:35:46 +0100 Received: from pcx05.csn.es (ema@pcx05.csn.es [193.144.29.134]) by server1.csn.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA08152; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:36:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:36:49 +0100 (CET) From: Enrique Melendez Asensio Reply-To: Enrique Melendez Asensio To: Stefan Afting cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: stack size exceeded. In-Reply-To: <200011111536.QAA21351@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Stefan Afting wrote: > > A long time ago Enrique wrote: > > > > >Hello all. > > > >On a certain document, involving quite an amount of included packages, I >get > the message > > > >(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex > >loading : Context Support Macros / Missing > >! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=4000]. > >>->\active@prefix > > > \active@char> > >l.453 \protect > > [...] > > Now I have the same problem. Unfortunately nobody answered to his > posting. Does anybody know how to fix that now. Maybe Enrique has > some ideas. > The problem was a certain (for me unexplained until now) incompatibility between the context macros included when supp-miss.tex is included and the babel package for spanish. The solution then time was to update the versions of the packages involved: babel, the spanish package an possibly (I do not recall now whether it was at that time or later) also the LaTeX core. A quite surprising fact was that changing the order in which the packages (graphicx/bable+spanish) were loaded made pdftex run undisturbed. Lacking more information on the details of your document, I would shyly recommend having the packages updated, or at least taking a look at the versions you are using. Regards, Enrique 13-Nov-2000 9:40:21-GMT,2084;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09814 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 02:40:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27956 for pdftex-list; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:02:33 -0500 Received: from gatesrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (gatesrv.RZ.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.11.27]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27953 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:02:31 -0500 Received: from kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (kommsrv [137.193.10.8]) by gatesrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09556; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:51:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from [137.193.225.217] (sauron.ET.UniBw-Muenchen.de [137.193.225.217]) by kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA21714; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:51:08 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200011130851.JAA21714@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Subject: Re: stack size exceeded. Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:50:55 +0100 x-sender: e31bmaci@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Stefan Afting To: "Enrique Melendez Asensio" cc: "pdforg" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id EAA27954 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thank you Enrique for your reply. I solved the problem. I had a typo in my tex document, which filled up my stack no matter how big it was. I fixed it and now everything is fine. Thanks to all others who helped me, especially Nelson H. F. Beebe. Greetings from Germany, Stefan Stefan Afting | Institut fuer Nachrichtentechnik stefan.afting@unibw-muenchen.de | Universität der Bundeswehr Muenchen | 85577 Munich, Germany | fon +49 89 6004-3928 | fax +49 89 6004-3641 14-Nov-2000 13:02:54-GMT,1904;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA15381 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 06:02:53 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA30974 for pdftex-list; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 06:54:05 -0500 Received: from relay1.jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA30971 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 06:54:02 -0500 Received: from tiger (tiger.jet.msk.su) [193.124.4.1] by relay1.jet.msk.su with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 13vej0-0002Lc-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:58:06 +0300 Received: from david.service.jet.msk.su [192.168.10.103] (root) by tiger.jet.msk.su with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 13vej0-0006iQ-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:58:06 +0300 Received: from tobotras by david.service.jet.msk.su with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13veiz-0006z7-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:58:05 +0300 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex installation Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Boris Tobotras Date: 14 Nov 2000 14:58:05 +0300 In-Reply-To: Charlie Zender's message of "Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:18:18 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Arches" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I've decided to play cheap, and just installed pdftex-14f binaries on my teTeX system (with pdftex-13d). Now I'm getting: ! Undefined control sequence. ...setbox \@tempboxa =\hbox {\pdfimage {\Gin@base .pdf}}\else \se... l.354 ...pdf}{\includegraphics*{GlobalView.pdf}}{} ? What've I broke? -- Best regards, -- Boris. PS: I did recreate format files. 14-Nov-2000 18:27:27-GMT,2522;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23662 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:27:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31704 for pdftex-list; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:39:04 -0500 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA31701 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:39:02 -0500 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA08967; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:43:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:43:13 +0100 Message-Id: <200011141743.SAA08967@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Boris Tobotras Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex installation In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Boris" == Boris Tobotras writes: > I've decided to play cheap, and just installed pdftex-14f > binaries on my teTeX system (with pdftex-13d). Now I'm getting: > ! Undefined control sequence. > ...setbox \@tempboxa =\hbox {\pdfimage \pdfimage is defined in supp-pdf.tex. Has this file been loaded? If yes, you might need a newer version of that file. The latest version is 2000.05.23 You'll find the latest context at http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/download.htm You should consider updating pdftex.def as well. BTW, http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/supp-pdf.tex is version 1998.10.15. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Nov-2000 21:18:47-GMT,1870;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28590 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:18:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32186 for pdftex-list; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:22:22 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA32183 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:22:20 -0500 Received: from remote142-172.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.172] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 13vmev-00033D-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:26:25 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001114202716.096fcd1c@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 20:27:16 +0100 To: Boris Tobotras , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: pdftex installation In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 14:58 14.11.2000 +0300, Boris Tobotras wrote: > I've decided to play cheap, and just installed pdftex-14f binaries > on my teTeX system (with pdftex-13d). Now I'm getting: > >! Undefined control sequence. > ...setbox \@tempboxa =\hbox {\pdfimage Because some command names have changed in version 14, you need uptodate versions of some packages: The driver file for the graphics bundle: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def If you are using hyperref: http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/hyperref.zip ... Yours sincerely Heiko 15-Nov-2000 0:15:27-GMT,5368;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03155 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:15:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32527 for pdftex-list; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:26:24 -0500 Received: from iwr1.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (iwr1.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.104.40]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA32524 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:26:21 -0500 Received: from giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.107.82]) by iwr1.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eAENUX005272 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:30:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (IDENT:root@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.107.84]) by giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA05970 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:30:26 +0100 (MET) Received: (from hlauer@localhost) by klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA17536 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:30:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:30:26 +0100 From: Hermann Lauer To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: TeX capacity exceeded (Music Symbols in chapter arg) Message-ID: <20001115003026.A17494@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear list readers, I use musixtex to typeset notes in a theses, and like to use symbols like \meterC in chapter/section headings. With latex that works, but with pdflatex it produces: ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [parameter stack size=500]. After reading some stuff on the net I think its a recursive Macro expansion (error message is included). pdftex Version is: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (format=pdflatex 2000.3.7) 15 NOV 2000 00:04 I tried to install a newer version, but that failed (due to an to old latex.ltx ???) Anybody knows what to do ? Thanks for any help. Greetings Hermann -- Bildverarbeitungsgruppe des Interdiziplinaeren Zentrums fuer wissenschaftliches Rechnen, Universitaet Heidelberg INF 368; 69120 Heidelberg; Tel: (06221)54-8826, -6314 Fax: -8850 Email: Hermann.Lauer@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [parameter stack size=500]. \raisebox #1-> \leavevmode \@ifnextchar [{\@rsbox {#1}}{\@irsbox {#1}[]} \textC ->\raisebox {0.7ex} [1ex]{\muskeyfont \char 83} \@currentlabelname ...e maestoso (\protect \textC , Es) - Allegro ({\protect... \H@old@sect ...5#6[#7]#8->\def \@currentlabelname {#7}\old@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}... \@sect ...@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}{#6}[{#7}]{#8} \ifx \\#1\\\else \ifnum #2... \@currentlabelname ...e maestoso (\protect \textC , Es) - Allegro ({\protect... \H@old@sect ...5#6[#7]#8->\def \@currentlabelname {#7}\old@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}... \@sect ...@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}{#6}[{#7}]{#8} \ifx \\#1\\\else \ifnum #2... \@currentlabelname ...e maestoso (\protect \textC , Es) - Allegro ({\protect... \H@old@sect ...5#6[#7]#8->\def \@currentlabelname {#7}\old@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}... \@sect ...@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}{#6}[{#7}]{#8} \ifx \\#1\\\else \ifnum #2... \@currentlabelname ...e maestoso (\protect \textC , Es) - Allegro ({\protect... \H@old@sect ...5#6[#7]#8->\def \@currentlabelname {#7}\old@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}... \@sect ...@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}{#6}[{#7}]{#8} \ifx \\#1\\\else \ifnum #2... \@currentlabelname ...e maestoso (\protect \textC , Es) - Allegro ({\protect... \H@old@sect ...5#6[#7]#8->\def \@currentlabelname {#7}\old@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}... \@sect ...@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}{#6}[{#7}]{#8} \ifx \\#1\\\else \ifnum #2... \@currentlabelname ...e maestoso (\protect \textC , Es) - Allegro ({\protect... \H@old@sect ...5#6[#7]#8->\def \@currentlabelname {#7}\old@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}... \@sect ...@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}{#6}[{#7}]{#8} \ifx \\#1\\\else \ifnum #2... \@currentlabelname ...e maestoso (\protect \textC , Es) - Allegro ({\protect... ... l.675 ...) - Allegro ({\protect\textmeter34}, Es)} ! ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file not finished! 15-Nov-2000 8:01:46-GMT,2454;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12152 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:01:44 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00995 for pdftex-list; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:57:42 -0500 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00992 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:57:41 -0500 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 13vwZt-0000wp-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:01:53 +0000 To: Hermann Lauer cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: TeX capacity exceeded (Music Symbols in chapter arg) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:30:26 +0100." <20001115003026.A17494@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:01:53 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I use musixtex to typeset notes in a theses, and like to use > symbols like \meterC in chapter/section headings. > With latex that works, it shouldn't do, given the definition you show below. > but with pdflatex it produces: > > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [parameter stack size=500]. > > After reading some stuff on the net I think its a recursive > Macro expansion (error message is included). > > pdftex Version is: > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (format=pdflatex > 2000.3.7) 15 NOV 2000 00:04 > > I tried to install a newer version, but that failed (due to an to > old latex.ltx ???) any copy of latex protects itself against being installed over and over "for ever". if you're willing to download a new pdftex, i can't see that a new latex would be a problem (i.e., i think it's smaller ;-), but this isn't the problem. > Anybody knows what to do ? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [parameter stack size=500]. > \raisebox #1-> > \leavevmode \@ifnextchar [{\@rsbox {#1}}{\@irsbox {#1}[]} \raisebox is fragile (since it has an optional argument), so it makes any command that contains it fragile. \protect\meterC would probably do the necessary. 16-Nov-2000 10:03:22-GMT,2874;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA15043 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 03:03:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA03694 for pdftex-list; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 03:56:22 -0500 Received: from inet-smtp4.us.oracle.com (inet-smtp4.oracle.com [209.246.15.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA03690 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 03:56:20 -0500 Received: from gmgw01.oraclecorp.com (gmgw01.us.oracle.com [130.35.61.190]) by inet-smtp4.us.oracle.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28933 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 01:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Oracle.com (rasppp59.de.oracle.com [140.84.7.128]) by gmgw01.oraclecorp.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21618 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 01:00:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A13A24B.4721659F@Oracle.com> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:00:59 +0100 From: Astrid Heinicke Organization: Oracle Deutschland GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: sidewaystable Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B2756B89264BA8B9F1852610" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B2756B89264BA8B9F1852610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear pdftex-users, I have to cope with very long tables. 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Dr. Astrid Heinicke end:vcard --------------B2756B89264BA8B9F1852610-- 16-Nov-2000 16:37:23-GMT,1719;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22584 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:37:22 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04331 for pdftex-list; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:16:09 -0500 Received: from zevs.idi.ntnu.no (zevs.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.164.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04328 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:16:07 -0500 Received: from bryssel (dhcp-111-04.idi.ntnu.no [129.241.111.225]) by zevs.idi.ntnu.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA03775 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:20:21 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <025001c04fe0$a1afde60$e16ff181@bryssel> From: "Magnus Lie Hetland" To: "pdfTeX" Subject: Other fonts with graph.mp? Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:19:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Sorry if this is off topic, but... I'm trying to use graph.mp (in metapost) with pdfTeX... And, it works fine, except that it insists on using the computer modern fonts for labelling... It seems pretty hardwired in the graph module -- does anyone know of a way of changing this without too much hacking? (I'm using mathpple in the rest of the document...) -- Magnus Lie Hetland (magnus at hetland dot org) "Reality is what refuses to disappear when you stop believing in it" -- Philip K. Dick 16-Nov-2000 19:30:20-GMT,1984;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27197 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:30:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04673 for pdftex-list; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:21:33 -0500 Received: from sage.coe.uga.edu (sage.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04670 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:21:30 -0500 Received: from coe.uga.edu.coe.uga.edu (IDENT:ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by sage.coe.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA22875; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:25:49 -0500 (EST) To: "Magnus Lie Hetland" Cc: "pdfTeX" Subject: Re: Other fonts with graph.mp? References: <025001c04fe0$a1afde60$e16ff181@bryssel> From: Ed L Cashin Date: 16 Nov 2000 13:25:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Magnus Lie Hetland"'s message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:19:36 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Magnus Lie Hetland writes: > Hi! > > Sorry if this is off topic, but... I'm trying to use graph.mp (in > metapost) with pdfTeX... And, it works fine, except that it insists > on using the computer modern fonts for labelling... It seems pretty > hardwired in the graph module -- does anyone know of a way of > changing this without too much hacking? (I'm using mathpple in the > rest of the document...) There's a metapost/font mailing list: http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/hobby/mpmail.html Maybe setting the defaultfont variable would help (manual, p.19)? I haven't tried to change the font in graph. -- --Ed Cashin PGP public key: ecashin@coe.uga.edu http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/ 16-Nov-2000 20:59:27-GMT,2035;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29619 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:59:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04720 for pdftex-list; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:46:57 -0500 Received: from smtp-1.nordnet.fr (smtp-1.nordnet.fr [194.206.126.239]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04717 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:46:55 -0500 Received: from default (gate5-24.nordnet.fr [195.146.225.24]) by smtp-1.nordnet.fr (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA04424; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:51:10 +0100 Message-Id: <200011161851.TAA04424@smtp-1.nordnet.fr> Reply-To: From: "Christophe Declercq" To: "Magnus Lie Hetland" , "pdfTeX" Subject: Re: Other fonts with graph.mp? Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:53:19 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ---------- > De : Magnus Lie Hetland > A : pdfTeX > Objet : Other fonts with graph.mp? > Date : jeudi 16 novembre 2000 16:19 > > Hi! > > Sorry if this is off topic, but... I'm trying to use graph.mp (in metapost) > with pdfTeX... And, it works fine, except that it insists on using the > computer modern fonts for labelling... It seems pretty hardwired in the > graph module -- does anyone know of a way of changing this without > too much hacking? (I'm using mathpple in the rest of the document...) METAPOST use TeX unless you must set the TEX variable in your environment to 'latex' and put something like below in your METAPOST file: input graph; verbatimtex \documentclass[12pt]{article} \usepackage{mathpple} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \begin{document} etex; beginfig(1); ... endfig; end Regards Christophe 17-Nov-2000 0:01:08-GMT,3124;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05087 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:01:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00778 for pdftex-list; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:25:20 -0500 Received: from iwr1.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (iwr1.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.104.40]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00771 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:20:13 -0500 Received: from giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.107.82]) by iwr1.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eAGMIdw25092 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:18:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (IDENT:root@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.107.84]) by giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20889; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:18:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (from hlauer@localhost) by klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA10068; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:18:09 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:18:09 +0100 From: Hermann Lauer To: Robin Fairbairns Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: TeX capacity exceeded (Music Symbols in chapter arg) Message-ID: <20001116231809.A9999@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <20001115003026.A17494@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 07:01:53AM +0000 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 07:01:53AM +0000, Robin Fairbairns wrote: > > I use musixtex to typeset notes in a theses, and like to use > > symbols like \meterC in chapter/section headings. > > With latex that works, > > it shouldn't do, given the definition you show below. That was the definitions it expands in pdflatex - I think, latex did something different. > > but with pdflatex it produces: > > > > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [parameter stack size=500]. > > > > After reading some stuff on the net I think its a recursive > > Macro expansion (error message is included). > > > > pdftex Version is: > > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (format=pdflatex > > 2000.3.7) 15 NOV 2000 00:04 I installed tetex-1.0.7 today (old was 1.0.6), now I have these versions: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (format=pdflatex 2000.5.24) 16 NOV 2000 23:11 **doktor (doktor.tex[/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] LaTeX2e <1999/12/01> patch level 1 And now pdflatex works with the same input file ! Thanks to all workers on pdftex. Greetings Hermann -- Bildverarbeitungsgruppe des Interdiziplinaeren Zentrums fuer wissenschaftliches Rechnen, Universitaet Heidelberg INF 368; 69120 Heidelberg; Tel: (06221)54-8826, -6314 Fax: -8850 Email: Hermann.Lauer@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de 17-Nov-2000 8:18:15-GMT,1870;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA16737 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 01:18:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA01890 for pdftex-list; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 02:40:00 -0500 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01887 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 02:39:57 -0500 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 13wg7n-00048o-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:39:55 +0000 To: Hermann Lauer cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: TeX capacity exceeded (Music Symbols in chapter arg) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:18:09 +0100." <20001116231809.A9999@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:39:55 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 07:01:53AM +0000, Robin Fairbairns wrote: > > > I use musixtex to typeset notes in a theses, and like to use > > > symbols like \meterC in chapter/section headings. > > > With latex that works, > > > > it shouldn't do, given the definition you show below. > > That was the definitions it expands in pdflatex - I think, latex > did something different. clever, since pdflatex is merely latex-on-pdftex (i.e., the same code ompiled with a different engine). if pdftex was _that_ different, latex would have far more problems than the odd minor inconsistency -- and in the ordinary course of things it doesn't. you plainly have different versions of something or other. 17-Nov-2000 13:53:00-GMT,1400;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23031 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 06:52:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA02547 for pdftex-list; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:19:14 -0500 Received: from mailserver.Internet ([213.145.5.245]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02544 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:19:11 -0500 Received: by mailserver.Internet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:23:23 +0100 Message-ID: <5D3C923EB934B64E96F8C47D1CBE09D207D355@mailserver.Internet> From: Cavarero Samuele To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: epstopdf problems Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:23:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk dear pdftex users, I experienced problems with epstopdf. I work under win98 and I use the perl port for windows. When I'm in the directory where epstopdf.pl and the test.eps are I run this command: perl epstopdf.pl test.eps and nothing happens (the script doesn't create test.pdf). perl.exe is on the search path so I think the problem is the command syntax. thank you for your help. Samuele 17-Nov-2000 18:08:19-GMT,3308;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00097 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:08:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03216 for pdftex-list; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:33:08 -0500 Received: from cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [142.176.61.253]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA03213 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:33:06 -0500 Received: id NAA24203; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:32:30 -0400 Received: by gateway id <0G46000IGJD2V7@bionet.bio.dfo.ca> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:31:50 -0400 (AST) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:31:50 -0400 (AST) From: "George N. White III" Subject: Re: epstopdf problems In-reply-to: <5D3C923EB934B64E96F8C47D1CBE09D207D355@mailserver.Internet> To: Cavarero Samuele Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Reply-to: "George N. White III" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Cavarero Samuele wrote: > > > > ---------- > > From: Cavarero Samuele[SMTP:S.CAVARERO@ORS.IT] > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 9:23:22 AM > > To: 'pdftex@tug.org' > > Subject: epstopdf problems > > Auto forwarded by a Rule > > > dear pdftex users, > > I experienced problems with epstopdf. I work under win98 and I use the perl > port for windows. > When I'm in the directory where epstopdf.pl and the test.eps are I run this > command: > > perl epstopdf.pl test.eps > > and nothing happens (the script doesn't create test.pdf). > perl.exe is on the search path so I think the problem is the command > syntax. > thank you for your help. > > Samuele Can you convert your 'test.eps' to pdf manually using gsview -- this may point to a problem with your ghostscript installation. If the problem with with your perl installation then you can find a version that does not require perl on CTAN: tex-archive/support/epstopdf >From epstopdf.txt: ---------------------------------------- epstopdf: written by Kong Hoon Lee, konghoon@hyowon.cc.pusan.ac.kr changes by Juergen Bausa, Juergen.Bausa@T-Online.de bugfix by Pascal Perichon, Pascal.Perichon@u-bourgogne.fr It converts an EPS file to an encapsulated PDF File and is written based on the perl script 'epstopdf' by Sebastian Rahtz on http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf. It works like the perl script without 'perl' but requires 'Ghostscript'. The accompanied Makefile can be used to automate the update of all eps/pdf files in a directory. Just put it in the directory where your eps files are and type 'make' from the command line (you will need a version of GNU-make). This program invokes 'gswin32c' and the path including 'gswin32c' should be included to the environment variable 'PATH'. 'gswin32c' should know, where to find its initialization files and fonts, using an registry entry (Windows) or an environment variable. ------------------------------------------------- -- George N. White III Bedford Institute of Oceanography 17-Nov-2000 18:29:44-GMT,1602;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00749 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:29:43 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03235 for pdftex-list; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:37:11 -0500 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03232 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:37:08 -0500 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 13wpRe-00019k-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:37:02 +0000 To: Cavarero Samuele cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Re: epstopdf problems In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:23:22 +0100." <5D3C923EB934B64E96F8C47D1CBE09D207D355@mailserver.Internet> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:37:01 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I experienced problems with epstopdf. I work under win98 and I use the perl > port for windows. > When I'm in the directory where epstopdf.pl and the test.eps are I run this > command: > > perl epstopdf.pl test.eps > > and nothing happens (the script doesn't create test.pdf). > perl.exe is on the search path so I think the problem is the command > syntax. is ghostscript on the path, too? epstopdf uses ghostscript as its translation engine. 19-Nov-2000 14:59:33-GMT,2286;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17574 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 07:59:32 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08082 for pdftex-list; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:05:50 -0500 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08079 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:05:48 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA31957 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:05:54 +0100 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc4.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.194]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA31878 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 15:05:51 +0100 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14032 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:46:22 +0100 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:46:21 +0100 (MET) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: removing labels from bitmaps Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Apropos objects on bitmaps: I produced PS files of labeled bitmaps from powerpoint slides (by printing to file via PS driver) or from PDF slides. Has anybody found a way, how to remove those labels (which are only objects on a background bitmap, as shown by ghostview when slowly building the picture)? I tried (using pstoedit 3.03 and gs 6.01): pstoedit -f dump 29.ps 29.dmp pstoedit -f fig -split -bo 29.dmp 29-%d.fig The resulting 29-1.fig will show the labels in XFIG, but not the bitmap, as it won't support level2 postscript. But how can I get the bitmap without the labels? In other words: How can I recover the bitmap object from a composite PDF file? (This is the reverted problem of how to visually label bitmaps in linux, while you can use zephyr/warmreader/xy-pic on macintosh ...) Thanks for any comment, Herbert 19-Nov-2000 19:35:11-GMT,1479;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22141 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:35:09 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08460 for pdftex-list; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:50:11 -0500 Received: from bull.SOM.Yale.edu (bull.som.yale.edu [130.132.153.219]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08457 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:50:09 -0500 Received: by bull.som.yale.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4MH9GLNC>; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:49:30 -0500 Message-ID: <24089FF3DDA7D2119F0D0008C72423F104E7B995@bull.som.yale.edu> From: "Feinstein, Jonathan" To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: Finding software Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:49:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am a TeX user, but not terribly sophisticated about down-loading software off the web. I would like to find some software that would enable me to turn my Plain TeX files into pdf files for viewing with Adobe Acrobat. Is there software available on the web for this? If there is, how do I go about downloading it? Any assistance you can give me would be much appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Jonathan Feinstein Professor, Yale School of Management 19-Nov-2000 19:42:33-GMT,2394;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22264 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:42:31 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08485 for pdftex-list; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:00:04 -0500 Received: from dep.oprit.rug.nl (dep.oprit.rug.nl [129.125.36.9]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08482 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:00:02 -0500 From: siepo@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl Received: from client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl (postfix@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl [129.125.44.3]) by dep.oprit.rug.nl (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA01029 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:59:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl (bitmuis.thuis.nl [10.0.0.3]) by client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D492317E for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:02:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:59:29 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: siepo@cybercomm.nl Subject: Re: removing labels from bitmaps To: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20001119190257.61D492317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 19 Nov, Verwalter Dr.Betz wrote: > Apropos objects on bitmaps: > > I produced PS files of labeled bitmaps from powerpoint slides (by > printing to file via PS driver) or from PDF slides. > > Has anybody found a way, how to remove those labels (which are only > objects on a background bitmap, as shown by ghostview when slowly > building the picture)? > > I tried (using pstoedit 3.03 and gs 6.01): > pstoedit -f dump 29.ps 29.dmp > pstoedit -f fig -split -bo 29.dmp 29-%d.fig > > The resulting 29-1.fig will show the labels in XFIG, but not the > bitmap, as it won't support level2 postscript. > > But how can I get the bitmap without the labels? In other words: How > can I recover the bitmap object from a composite PDF file? > > (This is the reverted problem of how to visually label bitmaps in > linux, while you can use zephyr/warmreader/xy-pic on macintosh ...) > > Thanks for any comment, > > Herbert Try pdfimages, which extracts all bitmaps from a pdf. It is part of the xpdf package. Siep Kroonenberg 20-Nov-2000 0:48:09-GMT,2058;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27338 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:48:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08940 for pdftex-list; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:05:53 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08937 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:05:51 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13xeSz-0003PZ-00; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:05:49 +0000 Received: from max88.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.88] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13xeSy-0001rn-00; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:05:49 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14872.27702.376428.194147@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:11:34 +0000 To: jonathan.feinstein@yale.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Finding software In-Reply-To: <24089FF3DDA7D2119F0D0008C72423F104E7B995@bull.som.yale.edu> References: <24089FF3DDA7D2119F0D0008C72423F104E7B995@bull.som.yale.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Feinstein, Jonathan writes: > software off the web. I would like to find some software that would enable > me to turn my Plain TeX files into pdf files for viewing with Adobe Acrobat. > Is there software available on the web for this? If there is, how do I go your best bet would be to visit http://www.tug.org and follow links to `free software' which will point you at several free versions of TeX (including pdftex) which you can download easily. which one you pick depends on your operating system, of course. Sebastian Rahtz 20-Nov-2000 7:44:47-GMT,1839;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA04928 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 00:44:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA09760 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 01:59:47 -0500 Received: from moloch.uni-mainz.de (root@ificp01.ific.uv.es [147.156.20.29]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA09757 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 01:59:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by moloch.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id HAA00555 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:59:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: moloch.uni-mainz.de: mike owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:59:44 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael M. Tung" X-Sender: To: Subject: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? Message-ID: Organization: =?ISO8859-1?Q?Universitat_de_Val=E8ncia?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I want to learn more about plain pdfTeX. How do I include http links and create anchors in such a TeX document? Where are decent examples? The source code of the manual (pdftexman.tex) seems to have disappeared from the web. I can't find it anywhere... Unfortunately, pdftexman.pdf doesn't really help me (I am missing any examples. It quite instructive for installation and configuration of pdfTeX. However, the section of available commands doesn't get me anywhere for real-life problems.) Please let me know about any other tutorials/manuals on plain pdfTeX. Thanks for any help. Best, Mike 20-Nov-2000 10:41:59-GMT,3883;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07722 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 03:41:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA10229 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:55:44 -0500 Received: from iwr1.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (iwr1.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.104.40]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA10226 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:55:42 -0500 Received: from giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.107.82]) by iwr1.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eAK9teS14489 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:55:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (IDENT:root@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.107.84]) by giotto.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12504; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:55:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from hlauer@localhost) by klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16637; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:55:27 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:55:27 +0100 From: Hermann Lauer To: Mick McQuaid Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: TeX capacity exceeded (Music Symbols in chapter arg) Message-ID: <20001120105527.A16461@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <20001115003026.A17494@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> <20001116231809.A9999@klimt.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> <20001117122401.A34832@U.Arizona.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001117122401.A34832@U.Arizona.EDU>; from mcquaid@U.Arizona.EDU on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 12:24:01PM -0700 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 12:24:01PM -0700, Mick McQuaid wrote: > I am puzzled---perhaps because I missed earlier messages on this > thread. You can use musixtex with pdflatex or pdftex? I thought > that was impossible due to lack of Type 1 fonts for music > symbols. Can you tell me how you manage it? I end up with bitmapped musix-stuff in the pdf - I know, thats not optimal but are there any alternatives ??? Also xpdf cannot display that stuff right - but acroread (version 4 only ?) does it. Maybe I will play a bit with the resolution of the bitmapped musix fonts to optimize viewing - but I'm not shure if that make sense (viewers change and use probably different downsampling techniques). On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 07:39:55AM +0000, Robin Fairbairns wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 07:01:53AM +0000, Robin Fairbairns wrote: > > > > I use musixtex to typeset notes in a theses, and like to use > > > > symbols like \meterC in chapter/section headings. > > > > With latex that works, > > > > > > it shouldn't do, given the definition you show below. > > > > That was the definitions it expands in pdflatex - I think, latex > > did something different. > > clever, since pdflatex is merely latex-on-pdftex (i.e., the same code > ompiled with a different engine). if pdftex was _that_ different, > latex would have far more problems than the odd minor inconsistency -- > and in the ordinary course of things it doesn't. > > you plainly have different versions of something or other. Robin, you are rigth in that aspect. The difference lies obviously in a package (just speculating ... maybe hyperref?) that is expanding to different plain tex code - but as I said, it's ok now with tetex-1.07 packages, so no reason to worry any longer about that. Thanks. Greeting Hermann -- Bildverarbeitungsgruppe des Interdiziplinaeren Zentrums fuer wissenschaftliches Rechnen, Universitaet Heidelberg INF 368; 69120 Heidelberg; Tel: (06221)54-8826, -6314 Fax: -8850 Email: Hermann.Lauer@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de 20-Nov-2000 18:24:19-GMT,2734;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17407 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:24:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11058 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:43:46 -0500 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11055 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:43:43 -0500 Received: from ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU (ipanema.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.137]) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09042; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:43:42 -0800 (PST) From: Paulo Ney de Souza Received: (from desouza@localhost) by ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14686; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:43:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:43:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011201743.JAA14686@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> To: michael.tung@uv.es, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Lack of source of examples is a BIG problem in the PdfTeX community, but the community itself seldom discuss the issue. Many exapmples of what can be achieved with PdfTeX are posted in the CTAN archieves, but as you noted already with NO SOURCE, violating the spirit of open source that has dominated TeX from the late 70's. The most blatant example of that is the page: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/index.html maintained by Sebastian Rahtz, I believe. There are lots of exaples there but no sources. I do HAVE the sources of the PDFTeX manual, which I downloaded from a server after a search on AltaVista, but I can't pass it around without the consent of the author. Paulo Ney >From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Nov 20 00:15:47 2000 >From: "Michael M. Tung" >To: >Subject: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? > > > >Hi all, > >I want to learn more about plain pdfTeX. How do I include http links >and create anchors in such a TeX document? Where are decent examples? >The source code of the manual (pdftexman.tex) seems to have disappeared >from the web. I can't find it anywhere... Unfortunately, pdftexman.pdf >doesn't really help me (I am missing any examples. It quite instructive >for installation and configuration of pdfTeX. However, the section of >available commands doesn't get me anywhere for real-life problems.) > >Please let me know about any other tutorials/manuals on plain pdfTeX. >Thanks for any help. Best, > Mike > > 20-Nov-2000 18:59:04-GMT,3140;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18476 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:59:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11169 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:15:09 -0500 Received: from torpedo.iti.upv.es (grumete.iti.upv.es [158.42.51.251]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11166 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:15:07 -0500 Received: from mike (helo=localhost) by torpedo.iti.upv.es with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13xvWb-0003Lw-00; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:18:41 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:18:41 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael M. Tung" X-Sender: To: cc: Paulo Ney de Souza Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: <200011201743.JAA14686@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: Organization: =?ISO8859-1?Q?Universitat_de_Val=E8ncia?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hola Paulo, pdfmantex.tex was once available on the web. Google still refers to http://www.tug.org/ListsArchives/pdftex/msg01558.html where Sebastian Rahtz gives reference to a now dead link for this file... I agree with you and don't understand why the pdfTeX sources to the online PDF files are not released publically with the generated PDFs---as it is common practise in the open-source community. Perhaps this is not even done intentionally. But with hindsight to the lack of a good practical manual for plain pdfTeX, this does not really help to promote the use of this software. pdfLaTeX is much more frequently used and I believe this is due to the many good manuals and example files on the web. Normally, I am using pdfLaTeX, but also plain TeX for smaller articles & exercise sheets for my students. They receive homework assignments by email, so that it would be just marvellous to be able to include html links in these documents. If you can't hand me over the source pdftexman.tex, perhaps you or some other wizards can reveal the mysteries of html links in plain pdfTeX to me? I would certainly appreciate it! Best, Michael On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: > Lack of source of examples is a BIG problem in the PdfTeX community, > but the community itself seldom discuss the issue. Many exapmples of > what can be achieved with PdfTeX are posted in the CTAN archieves, > but as you noted already with NO SOURCE, violating the spirit of open > source that has dominated TeX from the late 70's. > > The most blatant example of that is the page: > > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/index.html > > maintained by Sebastian Rahtz, I believe. There are lots of exaples > there but no sources. I do HAVE the sources of the PDFTeX manual, > which I downloaded from a server after a search on AltaVista, but > I can't pass it around without the consent of the author. > > Paulo Ney 20-Nov-2000 20:37:49-GMT,1494;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21348 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:37:48 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA11435 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:05:18 -0500 Received: from tenages.tasks.cs.cmu.edu (TENAGES.TASKS.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.222.253]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA11432 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:05:14 -0500 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [OFF-TOPIC] multiple indexes & hyperref Cc: mmoll@cs.cmu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Moll Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:05:04 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.2 (Pan) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am preparing a book with two indexes. I'm trying to use hyperref as well. Unfortunately, both index.sty and multind.sty seem to be incompatible with hyperref. Is there any other package that I can use to generate multiple indexes? Or are there any options I should pass to hyperref, index or multind? -- Mark Moll e-mail: MarkMoll@MarkMoll.net | Carnegie Mellon University phone: (412) 268 7123 | Dept. of Computer Science URL: http://MarkMoll.net | 5000 Forbes Avenue PGP: http://MarkMoll.net/pubkey | Pittsburgh, PA 15213 21-Nov-2000 0:24:27-GMT,2050;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27325 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:24:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11858 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:52:58 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11852 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:52:55 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13y0jw-0000hk-00; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:52:48 +0000 Received: from max51.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.51] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13y0jx-0000gX-00; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:52:49 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14873.46629.27524.16070@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:39:17 +0000 To: mmoll@cs.cmu.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] multiple indexes & hyperref In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Mark Moll writes: > I am preparing a book with two indexes. I'm trying to use hyperref as well. > Unfortunately, both index.sty and multind.sty seem to be incompatible with > hyperref. Is there any other package that I can use to generate multiple > indexes? Or are there any options I should pass to hyperref, index or > multind? In my opinion, you are on uncharted territory here. its an interesting topic, but I'd expect it to need some fairly knowledgeable hacking of hyperref and multind to get the final result. I hope it can be done sebastian 21-Nov-2000 0:50:10-GMT,2516;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27844 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:50:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11900 for pdftex-list; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:20:11 -0500 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11897 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:20:10 -0500 Received: from ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU (ipanema.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.137]) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13458; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:20:07 -0800 (PST) From: Paulo Ney de Souza Received: (from desouza@localhost) by ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15282; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:19:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:19:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011210019.QAA15282@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> To: michael.tung@uv.es, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? Cc: desouza@math.berkeley.edu, pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >From sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Mon Nov 20 15:52:58 2000 >From: "Sebastian Rahtz" >To: michael.tung@uv.es >Cc: pdftex@tug.org, desouza@math.berkeley.edu >Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? > >rahtz@spqr2:~ > ls /texlive/Master/texmf/doc/pdftex/ >TRANS.TBL pdfTeX-FAQ.tex pdftex-b.pdf pdftex-s.pdf samplepdf >pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf pdftex-a.pdf pdftex-l.pdf pdftex-t.tex > >which looks pretty good to me. Had I energy, I'd upload them to >CTAN, but they are not remotely secret. Its just that the www.tug.org >thing is a bit out of date. sorry, but its just lack of resources. who >wants to take over this area? Sebastian, Can I place these documents on MY web-server here in Berkeley ? I would be pleased to do so ... the PDF copies that are aviable at the CTAN site do not even print and people have complained about that and nothing changes in there ... >please dont invent conspiracies... >sebastian I am certainly not trying to .... can you pass the sources to the examples at the bottom half of the page ? http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/index.html so I can post them too ? These are the ones I was refering to ... 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Or visit us on the web: http://www.notjobs.com http://www.resumecard.com * If you do not wish to receive any more of these emails, please reply to this email with REMOVE in the subject line. 21-Nov-2000 10:21:42-GMT,2293;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09036 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:21:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA13018 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 04:39:05 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA13015 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 04:39:02 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13y9tF-0003BK-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:39:01 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13y9tG-0006ML-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:39:02 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14874.17147.977014.700061@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:40:11 +0000 To: desouza@math.berkeley.edu Cc: michael.tung@uv.es, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: <200011210019.QAA15282@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> References: <200011210019.QAA15282@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> X-Mailer: VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Paulo Ney de Souza writes: > Sebastian, Can I place these documents on MY web-server here in Berkeley ? you can do what you like with them. they are intended for the world to read. I'd MUCH rather you volunteered to overhaul the TUG web site pdftex tree, though. > I would be pleased to do so ... the PDF copies that are aviable at the CTAN > site do not even print and people have complained about that and nothing > changes in there ... so, get involved, change it yourself. this is a self-help organisation! > I am certainly not trying to .... can you pass the sources to the examples > at the bottom half of the page ? > > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/index.html no, cos I don't have them. ask the authors... FWIW, I just updated the manual files on www.tug.org, and added the source file. sebastian 21-Nov-2000 12:50:44-GMT,2118;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11499 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:50:43 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA13364 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 07:16:16 -0500 Received: from sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13361 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 07:16:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (oberdiek@localhost) by sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15574; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:15:58 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:15:58 +0100 (MET) From: Heiko Oberdiek To: Mark Moll cc: Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] multiple indexes & hyperref In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 20 Nov 2000, Mark Moll wrote: > I am preparing a book with two indexes. I'm trying to use hyperref as well. > Unfortunately, both index.sty and multind.sty seem to be incompatible with > hyperref. Is there any other package that I can use to generate multiple > indexes? Or are there any options I should pass to hyperref, index or > multind? Which version of hyperref do you use? >From the file ChangeLog: 1999-09-10 Heiko Oberdiek * 6.66b * Support for package multind. If you are using some index packages that are unkown and are not supported by hyperref, then you can disable hyperref's index definitions by option hyperindex=false If you then want hyper index features, you can try to insert \hyperpage around the page numbers generated by the used index package. (If you find such a way, you can inform, so that there is a chance that hyperref will support the new package.) Yours sincerely Heiko 21-Nov-2000 15:01:10-GMT,1080;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13813 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 08:01:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13581 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:20:03 -0500 Received: from www.SAFe-mail.net (www.SAFe-mail.net [206.25.186.68]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13578 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:20:01 -0500 From: ecashin@SAFe-mail.net Received: from sm by www.SAFe-mail.net with local (Exim 3.13 #1 (Debian)) id 13yEGr-0001HN-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:19:41 -0500 Subject: test. please ignore. Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:19:41 -0500 To: ecashin@coe.uga.edu X-SMType: Regular X-SMRef: N1-8Nr1sHOZ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk spam test -- Ed L Cashin PGP public key: http://syncotron.sourceforge.net/pgp/ 21-Nov-2000 15:23:59-GMT,1531;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14494 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 08:23:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13683 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:50:38 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13680 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:50:36 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13yEkl-0005y7-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:50:35 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13yEkm-0005RN-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:50:36 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14874.35841.946098.91563@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:51:45 +0000 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: spam on this list In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have tried a few more methods to block the rubbish from the list. Let me know if you see any funnies, or are affected for legimate posts Sebastian Rahtz 21-Nov-2000 16:25:00-GMT,2503;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16113 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:24:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13801 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:48:14 -0500 Received: from tenages.tasks.cs.cmu.edu (TENAGES.TASKS.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.222.253]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13798 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:48:12 -0500 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] multiple indexes & hyperref References: Cc: mmoll@cs.cmu.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Moll Date: 21 Nov 2000 10:47:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.2 (Pan) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:15:58 +0100 (MET), Heiko Oberdiek (HO) wrote: HO> From the file ChangeLog: HO> 1999-09-10 Heiko Oberdiek HO> * 6.66b HO> * Support for package multind. I tried multind again. It actually sort of works, but it has the formatting of the index title, headers and some other spacing parameters hardcoded. This overrides the settings of the document class I'm using. index.sty doesn't seem to have this problem. I'm now using a minimal solution based on multind, but syntactically closer to index.sty: \makeatletter \renewcommand{\makeindex}[1][idx]{\begingroup \makeatletter \if@filesw \expandafter\newwrite\csname #1@idxfile\endcsname \expandafter\immediate\openout \csname #1@idxfile\endcsname \jobname.#1\relax \typeout{Writing index file \jobname.#1 }\fi \endgroup} \renewcommand{\index}[2][idx]{\@bsphack\begingroup \def\protect##1{\string##1\space}\@sanitize \@wrindex{#1}{#2}} \def\@wrindex#1#2{\let\thepage\relax \xdef\@gtempa{\@ifundefined{#1@idxfile}{}{\expandafter \write\csname #1@idxfile\endcsname{\string \indexentry{#2}{\thepage}}}}\endgroup\@gtempa \if@nobreak \ifvmode\nobreak\fi\fi\@esphack} \newcommand{\printindex}[2][ind]{% \renewcommand{\indexname}{#2}\@input{\jobname.#1}} \makeatother \makeindex[aut]\makeindex Making the hyperindex stuff work is straightforward and left as an exercise to the reader :-) 21-Nov-2000 16:30:51-GMT,1532;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16263 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:30:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13793 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:44:55 -0500 Received: from torpedo.iti.upv.es (grumete.iti.upv.es [158.42.51.251]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13790 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:44:53 -0500 Received: from mike (helo=localhost) by torpedo.iti.upv.es with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13yFej-0005P3-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:48:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:48:25 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael M. Tung" X-Sender: To: Sebastian Rahtz cc: Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: <14874.17147.977014.700061@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: Organization: =?ISO8859-1?Q?Universitat_de_Val=E8ncia?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Sebastian, taking a look at pdftex-t.tex, I just realized that you require the ConTeXt macros to produce output. Are there basic commands in plain pdftex to link http's into a document? Unfortunately, the http special commands are all disabled for pdftex. Thanks again for any help. Best, Mike 21-Nov-2000 16:39:33-GMT,1930;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16499 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:39:32 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13817 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:55:37 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13814 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:55:36 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13yFlf-0000g0-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:55:35 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13yFlg-0000Kk-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:55:36 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14874.39742.44794.759553@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:56:46 +0000 To: michael.tung@uv.es Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: References: <14874.17147.977014.700061@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Michael M. Tung writes: > taking a look at pdftex-t.tex, I just realized that you require > the ConTeXt macros to produce output. right. is that a problem? > Are there basic commands in plain pdftex to link http's into a > document? Unfortunately, the http special commands are all > disabled for pdftex. lets be honest, I don't think I know what you are talking about. what is an "http special command"? sebastian 21-Nov-2000 16:56:11-GMT,2329;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16947 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:56:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13857 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:24:27 -0500 Received: from torpedo.iti.upv.es (grumete.iti.upv.es [158.42.51.251]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13854 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:24:23 -0500 Received: from mike (helo=localhost) by torpedo.iti.upv.es with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13yGHG-0005X3-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:28:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:28:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael M. Tung" X-Sender: To: Sebastian Rahtz cc: Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: <14874.39742.44794.759553@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: Organization: =?ISO8859-1?Q?Universitat_de_Val=E8ncia?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Michael M. Tung writes: > > taking a look at pdftex-t.tex, I just realized that you require > > the ConTeXt macros to produce output. > > right. is that a problem? > Yes, that's a problem if you are non-root user on a UNIX machine, where such a program is not installed. :-( > > Are there basic commands in plain pdftex to link http's into a > > document? Unfortunately, the http special commands are all > > disabled for pdftex. > > lets be honest, I don't think I know what you are talking about. what > is an "http special command"? > The \special command allows to include PostScript end eps files directly into TeX or LaTeX. It is also possible to specify hyperlinks within this command. Take for example a look at TUG's homepage at the location http://www.tug.org/dvipsk/dvips_47.html.---Unfortunately, this trick doesn't work under pdftex. Do you have any other suggestions to include http links in plain TeX? I am getting quite desparate. Even you gurus don't seem to know any fast remedy to my problem. :-( Best, Michael 21-Nov-2000 17:01:57-GMT,2651;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17102 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:01:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13869 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:29:27 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13866 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:29:25 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 13yGIO-0006yQ-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:29:24 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13yGIQ-0002GW-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:29:26 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14874.41770.994377.74838@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:30:34 +0000 To: michael.tung@uv.es Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: References: <14874.39742.44794.759553@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Michael M. Tung writes: > > right. is that a problem? > > > > Yes, that's a problem if you are non-root user on a UNIX machine, > where such a program is not installed. :-( nonsense. grab a TeX Live CD, which can be installed anywhere, as can a copy of teTeX. > The \special command allows to include PostScript end eps files directly > into TeX or LaTeX that varies from dvi processor to dvi processor. and of course pdftex cannot include EPS files > It is also possible to specify hyperlinks within > this command. Take for example a look at TUG's homepage at the location > http://www.tug.org/dvipsk/dvips_47.html.---Unfortunately, this > trick doesn't work under pdftex. no. pdftex has its own new primitives, as documented > Do you have any other suggestions to include http links in plain TeX? > I am getting quite desparate. Even you gurus don't seem to know any > fast remedy to my problem. :-( fast remedy? don't even consider using plain TeX. use Context or LaTeX where all the work is done for you. if I may advertise, the book The LaTeX Web Companion does explain all this stuff in great detail.... sebastian 21-Nov-2000 17:26:56-GMT,2703;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17795 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:26:55 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13892 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:41:46 -0500 Received: from torpedo.iti.upv.es (grumete.iti.upv.es [158.42.51.251]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13889 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:41:44 -0500 Received: from mike (helo=localhost) by torpedo.iti.upv.es with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13yGY0-0005do-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:45:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:45:31 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael M. Tung" X-Sender: To: Sebastian Rahtz cc: Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: <14874.41770.994377.74838@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: Organization: =?ISO8859-1?Q?Universitat_de_Val=E8ncia?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Michael M. Tung writes: > > nonsense. grab a TeX Live CD, which can be installed anywhere, as can > a copy of teTeX. Our HP machines don't have CD drives... > > > The \special command allows to include PostScript end eps files directly > > into TeX or LaTeX > that varies from dvi processor to dvi processor. and of course pdftex > cannot include EPS files > > > It is also possible to specify hyperlinks within > > this command. Take for example a look at TUG's homepage at the location > > http://www.tug.org/dvipsk/dvips_47.html.---Unfortunately, this > > trick doesn't work under pdftex. > > no. pdftex has its own new primitives, as documented To which documentation do you refer to? > > > Do you have any other suggestions to include http links in plain TeX? > > I am getting quite desparate. Even you gurus don't seem to know any > > fast remedy to my problem. :-( > > fast remedy? don't even consider using plain TeX. use Context or LaTeX where > all the work is done for you. I had previously written a considerable amount of work in TeX and now need to include http links in these documents. Using Context or LaTeX would be fine, if I had to start from scratch. > > if I may advertise, the book The LaTeX Web Companion does explain all > this stuff in great detail.... Now I don't understand: The LATEX Web Companion talks about plain TeX? P.S.: Please give me some _instructive_ help if you can. 21-Nov-2000 17:34:03-GMT,2369;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17977 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:34:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13901 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:45:19 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13898 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:45:17 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13yGXk-0002pf-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:45:16 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13yGXm-0003BG-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:45:18 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14874.42722.827263.122015@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:46:26 +0000 To: michael.tung@uv.es Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: References: <14874.41770.994377.74838@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Michael M. Tung writes: > > nonsense. grab a TeX Live CD, which can be installed anywhere, as can > > a copy of teTeX. > > Our HP machines don't have CD drives... thats why god gave you a network! > > no. pdftex has its own new primitives, as documented > > To which documentation do you refer to? pdftex-t.tex..... > I had previously written a considerable amount of work in TeX and now need > to include http links in these documents. do you have the pdftex example document? that has examples of everything you need > > if I may advertise, the book The LaTeX Web Companion does explain all > > this stuff in great detail.... > > Now I don't understand: The LATEX Web Companion talks about plain TeX? effectively. it has a chapter on pdftex > P.S.: Please give me some _instructive_ help if you can. I am trying, I assure you sebastian 21-Nov-2000 17:39:58-GMT,2253;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18126 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:39:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13916 for pdftex-list; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:54:30 -0500 Received: from torpedo.iti.upv.es (grumete.iti.upv.es [158.42.51.251]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13913 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:54:28 -0500 Received: from mike (helo=localhost) by torpedo.iti.upv.es with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13yGkO-0005eD-00; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:58:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:58:20 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael M. Tung" X-Sender: To: Sebastian Rahtz cc: "Michael M. Tung" , Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: <14874.42722.827263.122015@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: Organization: =?ISO8859-1?Q?Universitat_de_Val=E8ncia?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Michael M. Tung writes: > > > nonsense. grab a TeX Live CD, which can be installed anywhere, as can > > > a copy of teTeX. > > > > Our HP machines don't have CD drives... > > thats why god gave you a network! > > > > no. pdftex has its own new primitives, as documented > > > > To which documentation do you refer to? > pdftex-t.tex..... > > > I had previously written a considerable amount of work in TeX and now need > > to include http links in these documents. > > do you have the pdftex example document? that has examples of > everything you need > > > > if I may advertise, the book The LaTeX Web Companion does explain all > > > this stuff in great detail.... > > > > Now I don't understand: The LATEX Web Companion talks about plain TeX? > > effectively. it has a chapter on pdftex > > > P.S.: Please give me some _instructive_ help if you can. > > I am trying, I assure you > > sebastian > Thank you! michael 22-Nov-2000 8:46:10-GMT,2841;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08218 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:46:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA15428 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:09:55 -0500 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA15425 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:09:52 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.189]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G4F2OE01.B32; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:09:50 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001122090800.01b3fc60@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:08:00 +0100 To: Sebastian Rahtz From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? Cc: michael.tung@uv.es, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <14874.42722.827263.122015@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <14874.41770.994377.74838@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Mr. Tung, > > P.S.: Please give me some _instructive_ help if you can. > >I am trying, I assure you > >sebastian Just because I don't want to see any more of your annoying [and to a certain extend even offending] mails, here is a solution \pdfoutput=1 \def\url#1% {\pdfstartlink user {/Subtype /Link /Border [0 0 0] /A <>}% #1\pdfendlink} Now, why on earth are manuals written for if they are not read any more. Why not just download: \bigskip \line{\hss\url{http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/pdftex/pdftex-s.pdf}\hss} \bigskip and start reading? \end If you cannot motivate yourself for that, just think of the amount of time spent on writing pdftex, accompanying macros, writing manuals, maintaining a list, answering questions, keeping the web sites in tune, making sure that the distributions are up to date, etc. Reading a few manuals and studying a few example files is a small effort compared to that. Also keep in mind that the the 'tone' of your mails may make people not answer. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-2000 13:47:14-GMT,1467;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13011 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:47:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA15792 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 07:08:03 -0500 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15789 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 07:08:01 -0500 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 13yYgo-0007Fd-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:07:50 +0000 To: michael.tung@uv.es, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:08:00 +0100." <3.0.6.32.20001122090800.01b3fc60@pop.wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:07:50 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk hans writes to michael tung: > Just because I don't want to see any more of your annoying [and to a > certain extend even offending] mails, here is a solution > [snipped] if that isn't enough, there's always the sources of context and of hyperref, which have all this stuff built in. a plain programmer can always just pick the bits he wants... robin 22-Nov-2000 14:24:17-GMT,2188;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13606 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 07:24:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16015 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:47:18 -0500 Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr (mathups.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.52.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16012 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:47:13 -0500 Received: from topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (topodyn.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.70]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.11.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eAMDl2716269 ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:47:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (from lcs@localhost) by topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA21425; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:47:01 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:47:01 +0100 (MET) From: Laurent Siebenmann Message-Id: <200011221347.OAA21425@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> To: lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, michael.tung@uv.es, mwicks@kettering.edu, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear Michael Tung, sr> fast remedy? don't even consider > using plain TeX. use Context or LaTeX where > all the work is done for you. mt> I had previously written a considerable > amount of work in TeX and now need > to include http links in these documents. Knuth's bootstrapping TeX is by no means dead. It's just not fashionable. Dvipdfm by M.Wicks will very efficiently do all you need via Plain TeX using Knuth's \special paradigm. It fits easily in a small user mainframe partition. Its documentation is *outstanding*. Further, the Plain source illustrates live most of the native \special capabilities. There's also emulation of the key dvips and HyperTeX \special's and hence compatibility with various related Plain macro packages. Check out the dvipdfm email support list. There is NO OBSTACLE in principle to better Plain support for pdftex, so post pdftex solutions right here if/when you find them. Cheers Laurent S 22-Nov-2000 15:12:42-GMT,1884;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14601 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:12:41 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16137 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:40:58 -0500 Received: from clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (root@clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de [134.96.187.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16134 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:40:56 -0500 Received: from filicudi.rotenberg.dnsalias.org (acc-220 [134.96.188.220]) by clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18517; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:40:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from dfki.de (crysmann@filicudi [192.168.1.1]) by filicudi.rotenberg.dnsalias.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15403; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:41:24 +0100 Message-ID: <3A1BDB00.6E25AC35@dfki.de> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:41:04 +0100 From: Berthold Crysmann Organization: DFKI GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, de, fr, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: dvips(k) 5.86 and Bakoma Type1 fonts (slightly off-topic) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, I've experienced problems embedding BaKoMa Type1 fonts with dvips 5.86, reporting: [...] First number not found ERROR in encoding vector in So the only way around is to use PKs, which is quite unpleasant in PDF files. Has anybody else experienced this problem and found a way around it? Thanks a lot, Berthold PS: I use Bakoma for those few fonts missing in the Bluesky collection. -- Berthold Crysmann Deutsches Forschungszentrum Kuenstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3 D-66123 Saarbrücken 22-Nov-2000 17:04:43-GMT,1911;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17349 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:04:41 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16305 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:11:09 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16302 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:11:07 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13ycUD-0000UC-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:11:05 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13ycUF-0008SD-00; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:11:07 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14875.61537.24072.387514@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:12:17 +0000 To: Laurent.Siebenmann@math.u-psud.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: <200011221347.OAA21425@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> References: <200011221347.OAA21425@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Laurent Siebenmann writes: > Knuth's bootstrapping TeX is by no means dead. It's just not .. > fits easily in a small user mainframe partition. so, lets see I have plain TeX. now I just need to find a mainframe.... > There is NO OBSTACLE in principle to better Plain support > for pdftex, so post pdftex solutions right here if/when you > find them. the obstacle is that there is no commonly-agreed markup for which one can write driver-specific backends sebastian 22-Nov-2000 17:14:53-GMT,1721;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17578 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:14:52 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16392 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:42:28 -0500 Received: from jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp [157.13.51.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16389 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:42:26 -0500 Received: by jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-kfsci) id BAA26061; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 01:43:22 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200011221643.BAA26061@jupiter.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp> To: crysmann@dfki.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: dvips(k) 5.86 and Bakoma Type1 fonts (slightly off-topic) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:41:04 +0100" References: <3A1BDB00.6E25AC35@dfki.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 01:43:21 +0900 From: Akira Kakuto Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Berthold Crysmann Subject: dvips(k) 5.86 and Bakoma Type1 fonts (slightly off-topic) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:41:04 +0100 Message-ID: <3A1BDB00.6E25AC35@dfki.de> > Dear all, > > I've experienced problems embedding BaKoMa Type1 fonts with dvips 5.86, > reporting: > > [...] First number not found > ERROR in encoding vector in > dvips 5.86d (with -DDOWNLOAD_USING_PDFTEX) will be able to download that font. -- Akira Kakuto 22-Nov-2000 17:16:04-GMT,3650;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17621 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:16:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16385 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:41:33 -0500 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16382 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:41:29 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.201]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G4FQC902.LIB; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:40:57 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001122173711.014bee40@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:37:11 +0100 To: Laurent Siebenmann From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200011221347.OAA21425@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 02:47 PM 11/22/00 +0100, Laurent Siebenmann wrote: >There is NO OBSTACLE in principle to better Plain support >for pdftex, so post pdftex solutions right here if/when you >find them. pdftex's extensions fall into categories (0) an alternative shipout implementation: one only needs to know how to set up font and graphic resources, which is not much different from dvi and normally is up to the system maintainer (1) extensions to the typesetting engine: these are documented in the pdftex manual, as well as discussed in depth in Thanh's to be available thesis. The main thing there is to understand what is happening, which involved font knowledge, the new primitives are relatively simple (2) extensions to tex unrelated to pdf: these are also documented in the pdftex manual, as well as articles, and if not, they must be considered experimental and not meant for real usage (yet) (3) simple pdf hyperlink extensions: these are, unless you want fancy things, relatively simple and explained in the manual as well as the example file, and, you only need to look at \pdfstartlink \pdfendlink. (3) extensions that give access to low level pdf datastructures: for these you need to read the manual as well as study the pdf reference manual; explaining them in the manual would involve (a) a discussion of the pdf data model (b) an explanation of (sometimes changing) low level pdf code that goes into objects (c) a detailed discussion of how to they may interact with other page makeup macros Especially (c) is beyond the normal pdftex manual, since they depend on the macro package you use: context, latex, plain or extended plain, whatever. It would also involve omega specifics and alike. In most macro packages, the low level usage is discussed. (b) and (c) are partially covered. Actually, for just hyperlink support the amount of in depth pdftex knowledge is nearly zero and browsing the pdftex list mail archive will reveal most of it. Actually, since plain users know what \font and \special and \write do, the \pdf... primitives should be doable. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-2000 19:39:24-GMT,2575;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21484 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:39:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16627 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:22:09 -0500 Received: from smtp1b.mail.yahoo.com (smtp3.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.135]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA16624 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:22:07 -0500 Received: from default.sjc.ca.bbnow.net (HELO default.sjc.ca.bbnow.net.) (24.219.121.195) by smtp.mail.vip.suc.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2000 04:37:56 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdfTeX Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:52:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Setting custom papersize for dvipdfm, with hyperref present Reply-to: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <3A18BC2A.15871.120AAC@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi All; I've got a problem, perhaps someone can lend me a hand. I want to set a custom papersize while using hyperref and dvipdfm The following works correctly. You can use either the dvips special \special{papersize=...) or the dvipdfm special \special{pdf: pagesize....} \documentclass{article} %\special{pdf: pagesize width 10in height 10in} \special{papersize=10in,10in} \begin{document} Hello world! \end{document} Now, introduce hyperref, into the document and I get a message from dvipdfm: "Sorry, Too late to change paper size.". \documentclass{article} %\usepackage[dvipdfm]{hyperref} %\special{pdf: pagesize width 10in height 10in} %\special{papersize=10in,10in} \begin{document} Hello world! \end{document} I've tried several workarounds, but nothing seems to work. Any ideas? Dr. D. P. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com 22-Nov-2000 19:50:03-GMT,4850;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21727 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:50:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16731 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:19:28 -0500 Received: from moloch.uni-mainz.de (root@ificp02.ific.uv.es [147.156.20.34]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16728 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:19:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by moloch.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id UAA24961 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:19:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: moloch.uni-mainz.de: mike owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:19:27 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael M. Tung" X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? Message-ID: Organization: =?ISO8859-1?Q?Universitat_de_Val=E8ncia?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Hans Hagen wrote: > Just because I don't want to see any more of your annoying [and to a > certain extend even offending] mails, here is a solution > > \pdfoutput=1 > > \def\url#1% > {\pdfstartlink user > {/Subtype /Link > /Border [0 0 0] > /A <>}% > #1\pdfendlink} > > Now, why on earth are manuals written for if they are not read any more. > Why not just download: > > \bigskip > > \line{\hss\url{http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/pdftex/pdftex-s.pdf}\hss} > > \bigskip > > and start reading? > > \end > > If you cannot motivate yourself for that, just think of the amount of time > spent on writing pdftex, accompanying macros, writing manuals, maintaining > a list, answering questions, keeping the web sites in tune, making sure > that the distributions are up to date, etc. Reading a few manuals and > studying a few example files is a small effort compared to that. Also keep > in mind that the the 'tone' of your mails may make people not answer. > This is to rectify just a few things. I really--and many others--do appreciate the amount of work invested to develop pdfTeX, writing up manuals, and maintaining this email list. Here, I do not want to get into a discussion on the `tone' of my mails. Please take a look at the previous mails and judge yourself.--By the way, I did get plenty of useful help by others addressed directly to me. My original question was to whether it is possible to use pdftex to include hyperlinks in already existing TeX code. Upgrading to ConTeXt or buying CDs / books are perhaps good-meant advice, but are not feasible on a short term (especially when you are in a country where it takes weeks to receive international orders!). This list server is about pdfTeX and supporting also newbies in the field. I am a newbie learning pdfTeX, not TeX or LaTeX, though. So let me tell you from my perspective what I believe would facilitate this learning process. When using pdfLaTeX, one is never confronted to directly interfere with the resulting PDF code. Things are easy, because the extended command set is TeX/LaTeX. For plain pdfTeX, things are different because one mixes PDF with TeX. In this context, an interesting tutorial complementing the pdfTeX User's Manual would be on how to blend TeX and pdfTeX at this fundamental level. The source of the User's Manual is only of partial help for this task, because many commands use the higher-level ConTeXt macros. -Michael P.S.: The following answer might be useful for those who stumble across the same problem I had: The fastest way to include hyperlinks into existing TeX programs with minimal changes to the code is 1) use the html special command of the form \special{html:}% TeX User's Group\special{html:} wherever you want to have appear your links 2a) then tex and create PostScript with `dvips -z' and convert to PDF with ps2pdf 2b) alternatively, one can directly create PDF output with the dvipdfm driver on the dvi file (dvipdfm has its own extension for many other powerful PDF specials) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Michael M. Tung Email: michael.tung@uv.es Departamento de Fisica Teorica Universidad de Valencia C/ Dr. Moliner, 50 Phone: +34 (96) 386-4550 46100 Burjassot (Valencia) Fax: +34 (96) 364-2345 SPAIN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-2000 0:40:06-GMT,2656;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28147 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:40:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17101 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:06:37 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17098 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:06:34 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13yjuK-0001Jj-00; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 00:06:32 +0000 Received: from max75.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.75] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13yjuJ-0006lU-00; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 00:06:31 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14876.20890.112862.383488@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:07:06 +0000 To: michael.tung@uv.es Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Michael M. Tung writes: > In this context, an interesting tutorial complementing the pdfTeX User's > Manual would be on how to blend TeX and pdfTeX at this fundamental level. but thats exactly what the manual does! it explains the new pdftex primitives, which is what you need. no-one can tell you how to use them in your plain macros, because we have no idea what you macros do. we can discuss LaTeX or Context, because they have a published interface, but who knows what yours is? > The source of the User's Manual is only of partial help for this task, > because many commands use the higher-level ConTeXt macros. the source of the hyperref package for LaTeX would likely be a good mine for macros. > 1) use the html special command of the form > > \special{html:}% > TeX User's Group\special{html:} > > wherever you want to have appear your links > > 2a) then tex and create PostScript with `dvips -z' > and convert to PDF with ps2pdf and you'll find after a while the limitations of this approach :-} sebastian 23-Nov-2000 3:39:02-GMT,1729;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01297 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:39:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17383 for pdftex-list; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:08:37 -0500 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17380 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:08:36 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14048 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:08:46 +0100 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc5.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.195]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA13924 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:08:43 +0100 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23731 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:00:09 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:00:08 +0100 (MET) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: removing labels from bitmaps In-Reply-To: <20001119190257.61D492317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 siepo@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl wrote: > Try pdfimages, which extracts all bitmaps from a pdf. It is part of the > xpdf package. Thanks very much, this works really nice ... 23-Nov-2000 9:20:26-GMT,2226;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07318 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:20:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18139 for pdftex-list; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 03:45:30 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA18136 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 03:45:27 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13ys5W-0003X2-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:50:38 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id JAA18226 for tug.org!pdftex; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:44:11 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13yryR-004wwSC; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:43:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:43:19 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Subject: Re: Setting custom papersize for dvipdfm, with hyperref present Message-ID: <20001123094319.N17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list References: <3A18BC2A.15871.120AAC@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A18BC2A.15871.120AAC@localhost>; from dp_story@yahoo.com on Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 05:52:42AM -0500 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-11-20 05:52:42 -0500, Donald Story wrote: > I've got a problem, perhaps someone can lend me a hand. > I want to set a custom papersize while using hyperref and dvipdfm The geometry package has support for dvips and pdftex. Maybe it helps. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 23-Nov-2000 9:48:57-GMT,2043;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07781 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:48:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18198 for pdftex-list; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:05:27 -0500 Received: from plane.elvenkind.com (IDENT:root@qn-212-127-141-231.quicknet.nl [212.127.141.231]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18195 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:05:23 -0500 From: siep@elvenkind.com Received: from elvenkind.com (IDENT:siep@oban.home [10.10.0.7]) by plane.elvenkind.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02068 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:05:09 +0100 Message-Id: <200011230905.KAA02068@plane.elvenkind.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:06:11 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: siep@elvenkind.com Subject: Re: dvips(k) 5.86 and Bakoma Type1 fonts (slightly off-topic) To: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3A1BDB00.6E25AC35@dfki.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 22 Nov, Berthold Crysmann wrote: > Dear all, > > I've experienced problems embedding BaKoMa Type1 fonts with dvips 5.86, > reporting: > > [...] First number not found > ERROR in encoding vector in > > So the only way around is to use PKs, which is quite unpleasant in PDF > files. Has anybody else experienced this problem and found a way around > it? > > > Thanks a lot, > > Berthold > > PS: I use Bakoma for those few fonts missing in the Bluesky collection. > > > > -- > Berthold Crysmann > Deutsches Forschungszentrum Kuenstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH > Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3 > D-66123 Saarbrücken If you let dvips load bsr-interpolated.map then it will substitute the BlueSky CMEX10 for cmex7. There also is an option psamsfonts to amsfonts.sty and to amssymb.sty that does this substitution at the TeX level. -- Siep Kroonenberg siep@elvenkind.com 23-Nov-2000 10:06:43-GMT,1875;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08074 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 03:06:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18236 for pdftex-list; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:27:59 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18233 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:27:58 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13ysfd-0007Fz-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:27:57 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13ysfc-0002vQ-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:27:56 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14876.58211.189229.534102@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:29:07 +0000 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Your message to pdftex awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: <20001123100030.P17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <200011230849.JAA32766@tug.daimi.au.dk> <20001123100030.P17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk if you get a message like > > Your mail to 'pdftex' with the subject > > > > Re: Setting custom papersize for dvipdfm, with hyperref present > > > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. bear with me. it is because the list is changing to a new bit of software on a new box, and I screwed up. your message will go out shortly. sebastian 24-Nov-2000 7:57:03-GMT,3046;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28416 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:57:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20808 for pdftex-list; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 02:17:04 -0500 Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr (mathups.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.52.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA20805 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 02:17:03 -0500 Received: from topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (topodyn.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.70]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.11.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eAO7Gq725161 ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:16:52 +0100 (MET) Received: (from lcs@localhost) by topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA27666; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:16:52 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:16:52 +0100 (MET) From: Laurent Siebenmann Message-Id: <200011240716.IAA27666@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> To: lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Plain support for pdftex Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Plain is the one approach that to pdfTeX that offers unlimited power. It's probably not for those nurtured on LaTeX or context alone, but it does appeal to hard science people like Tung and to typographers. The notion of Plain "programmer interface library" to pdftex might be something to think about (-- offering functions between the lowest level and the very high level of LaTeX or context). In fact LaTeX and Context could perhaps build on that and also contribute to it. sr> so, lets see I have plain TeX. now I just need > to find a mainframe.... On a mainframe the sysop rules. That's the pertinant definition of mainframe. Where I work its a real problem to find a way around the mighty mainframes offering 25Mo per user partition max. For 300 users, that is <8 Go storage, maybe worth $100 new in all. Go figure. me>> There is NO OBSTACLE in principle to better Plain support >> for pdftex, so post pdftex solutions right here if/when you >> find them. sr> the obstacle is that there is no commonly-agreed > markup for which one can write driver-specific > backends Plain TeX has more flexible syntax and hence a great deal less of it. There is no more problem for Plain (or 'Generic' TeX) serving pdftex than there was a decade ago with the problem of EPS graphics integration becoming independent of dvi driver. Secastian will recall (with pleasure:) that my 'Generic' solution "boxedeps.tex" (one macro file for all formats and all drivers) preceeded his LaTeX-specific solution using the still current LaTeX design with one file per driver plus a common core (if I recall). Today, the all-inclusive all-exclusive TeX systems like LaTeX ('mainframe' TeX?) are well ahead, but the reasons for that are socio-economic, I would say, and not at all technical. Cheers Laurent S 24-Nov-2000 8:28:32-GMT,1481;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28923 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:28:31 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA20880 for pdftex-list; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:04:34 -0500 Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr (mathups.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.52.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA20877 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:04:32 -0500 Received: from topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (topodyn.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.70]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.11.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eAO84W725346 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:04:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from lcs@localhost) by topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id JAA27890; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:04:32 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:04:32 +0100 (MET) From: Laurent Siebenmann Message-Id: <200011240804.JAA27890@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> To: lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: bitmaps from a pdf Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 siepo@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl wrote: > >> Try pdfimages, which extracts all bitmaps from a pdf. It is part of the >> xpdf package. Does this use a full pdf interpreter, or is it done more neatly? What can you say about output format? AR 'extracts' bitmaps but 'lossily'. Cheers LS. 24-Nov-2000 9:10:57-GMT,2841;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29569 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 02:10:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA20976 for pdftex-list; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:57:35 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA20973 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:57:31 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13zEkg-0007Ex-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:02:38 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id JAA06016 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:56:15 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m13zEdS-004wwRC; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:55:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:55:09 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: bitmaps from a pdf Message-ID: <20001124095509.W17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <200011240804.JAA27890@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011240804.JAA27890@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr>; from Laurent.Siebenmann@math.u-psud.fr on Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 09:04:32AM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-11-24 09:04:32 +0100, Laurent Siebenmann wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 siepo@client44-3.kabelA.oprit.rug.nl wrote: > > > >> Try pdfimages, which extracts all bitmaps from a pdf. It is part of the > >> xpdf package. > > Does this use a full pdf interpreter, or is it done > more neatly? What can you say about output format? It seems it uses the xpdf code (the same pdftex uses) to parse the pdf and extract the images. DESCRIPTION Pdfimages saves images from a Portable Document Format (PDF) file as Portable Pixmap (PPM), Portable Bitmap (PBM), or JPEG files. Pdfimages reads the PDF file, scans one or more pages, PDF-file, and writes one PPM, PBM, or JPEG file for each image, image-root-nnn.xxx, where nnn is the image number and xxx is the image type (.ppm, .pbm, .jpg). xpdf is available at http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 24-Nov-2000 10:43:41-GMT,1474;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01128 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:43:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA21074 for pdftex-list; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 05:07:38 -0500 Received: from clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (root@clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de [134.96.187.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21071 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 05:07:35 -0500 Organization: DFKI Saarbruecken GmbH, D 66123 Saarbruecken Received: from dfki.de (lost [134.96.187.60]) by clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03266 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:07:33 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A1E3DE4.B4B779EF@dfki.de> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:07:32 +0100 From: Berthold Crysmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: dvips(k) 5.86 and Bakoma Type1 fonts (slightly off-topic) References: <200011230905.KAA02068@plane.elvenkind.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thanks a lot everyone for your replies. I wasn't able to find the bsr-interpolated.map, though. Berthold -- Berthold Crysmann Deutsches Forschungszentrum Kuenstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3 D-66123 Saarbruecken 24-Nov-2000 14:17:13-GMT,3129;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04514 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:17:12 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA21438 for pdftex-list; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:39:57 -0500 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21435 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:39:55 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.22.239]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G4J7AH00.KVS; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:39:53 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001124123609.014db410@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:36:09 +0100 To: Laurent Siebenmann From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Plain support for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200011240716.IAA27666@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:16 AM 11/24/00 +0100, Laurent Siebenmann wrote: >Plain is the one approach that to pdfTeX that offers >unlimited power. It's probably not for those >nurtured on LaTeX or context alone, but it does >appeal to hard science people like Tung and to >typographers. The notion of Plain "programmer >interface library" to pdftex might be something to >think about (-- offering functions between the >lowest level and the very high level of LaTeX or >context). In fact LaTeX and Context could perhaps >build on that and also contribute to it. Actually, context is build in layers, and many low level modules are stand alone and generic [syst-* modules, most supp-* modules, some more]. The special drivers are quite isolated, and it would take me a day to make them generic, but since most plain users are indeed plain users, there is hardly any interest in this. Also, what makes plain 'plain'? You can do quite plain things in context, which is what some users do: use context as plain. Occasionally I make modules more generic, but who cares -) In the end i want a system that can replace components, but only in todays larger tex such a thing can be implemented, which is why it takes some time. The main issue in large macro packages is consistency and dependency, which is why amstex, latex and context kernels and core functionality is unique and not build on lower layers. That's what gives them their look and feel and functionality. Even special drivers need to talk to the otr, and object management is something that influences the whole system. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-2000 14:37:01-GMT,2009;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04846 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 07:37:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21472 for pdftex-list; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:03:43 -0500 Received: from smtp.datagrama.net (smtp.datagrama.net [212.9.64.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21469 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:03:42 -0500 From: alou@mazars.es Received: from JUPITER.GMTR.COM (jupiter.gmtr.com [212.9.67.146]) by smtp.datagrama.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id eAOE3er29471 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:03:40 +0100 (MET) Received: by JUPITER.GMTR.COM(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 412569A1.004C7BCB ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:55:24 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GMTR To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <412569A1.004C7B38.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:55:22 +0100 Subject: Broken links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello I'm using pdftex (3.14159-14f-released-20000525), hyperref (2000/07/02 v6.70m) and Perl to create database documentation automatically. The script generates lots of \hyperlink and \hypertarget to link the different database objects When the compilation ends, I get warnings like this >! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{field.5000578} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one, meaning that I'm trying to do an \hyperlink to something that has not been marked with an \hypertarget; moreover, the link in the pdf file links me to the first page of the document (the fixed destination, I assume) Previous versions of pdftex just didn't make anything with that kind of broken links. Can I get those broken links to link me to nowhere ---that is, I want them to do nothing---, not to a fixed destination? Thanks, Toni 24-Nov-2000 17:21:37-GMT,2676;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07881 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:21:35 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21679 for pdftex-list; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:37:05 -0500 Received: from lx0.fh-landshut.de (root@lx0.fh-landshut.de [193.175.141.50]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21676 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:37:02 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA31674 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:37:14 +0100 Received: from INET.anae.kla.de (root@ta1-pc4.fh-landshut.de [193.175.140.194]) by lx0.fh-landshut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA31588 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:37:07 +0100 Received: from localhost (kla@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by INET.anae.kla.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29906 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:34:26 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:34:25 +0100 (MET) From: "Verwalter Dr.Betz" X-Sender: kla@INET.anae.kla.de To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: highlighting labels Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk A texpower problem: This will work, highlighting text successively (__TPhlit.tex): %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \clearpage\thispagestyle{empty} \stepwise[\let\activatestep=\highlighttext \let\hidestepcontents=\displayidentical]{ \step{Inside} a paragraph, we can \step{highlight} text \step{without influencing} \step{line breaks}. }%end stepwise %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ... but this will not, intended to highlight groups of labels successively on a background bitmap: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \clearpage\thispagestyle{empty} \stepwise[\let\activatestep=\highlighttext \let\hidestepcontents=\displayidentical]{ \begin{picture}(0,0) \put(2,-8.5){\includegraphics[width=10cm,height=8.5cm]{background.pdf}} \step{ \put(-1,-1){\Large \ding{"0C0}Label1} \put(-1,-2.5){\Large \ding{"0C1}Label2} }%end step \step{ \put(-1,-3.5){\Large \ding{"0C2}Label3} }%end step \end picture }%end stepwise %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% What can I do ? I should probably join the texpower mailing list, but I got only this one texpower problem ... Thanks for any comment, Herbert 24-Nov-2000 21:23:07-GMT,1649;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12146 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:23:06 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22028 for pdftex-list; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:48:43 -0500 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22025 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:48:41 -0500 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 13zPlr-0005yX-00; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:48:35 +0000 To: Laurent Siebenmann cc: lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org, sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Re: Plain support for pdftex In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:16:52 +0100." <200011240716.IAA27666@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:48:35 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Today, the all-inclusive all-exclusive TeX systems > like LaTeX ('mainframe' TeX?) are well ahead, but > the reasons for that are socio-economic, I would > say, and not at all technical. ignoring your daft jibes, i read on and find you claiming that plain users don't support each other for socio-economic reasons. odd. does this just mean they're lazy? -- sounds a curious claim from such a devoted user of plain tex. 25-Nov-2000 16:19:04-GMT,3516;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29830 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:19:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23729 for pdftex-list; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:43:24 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23726 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:43:21 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13zhTz-00053w-00; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:43:19 +0000 Received: from max63.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.63] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13zhTz-0004w2-00; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:43:19 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14879.45787.262180.685768@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:38:51 +0000 To: Laurent.Siebenmann@math.u-psud.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex In-Reply-To: <200011240716.IAA27666@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> References: <200011240716.IAA27666@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Laurent Siebenmann writes: > Plain is the one approach that to pdfTeX that offers > unlimited power. bizarre statement. the interface to pdfTeX's extra facilities is via number of new TeX commands, which any TeX author can use. so we all have the unlimited power. > typographers. The notion of Plain "programmer > interface library" to pdftex might be something to > think about (-- offering functions between the > lowest level and the very high level of LaTeX or > context) many people (I among them) would argue that latex and context _are_ programmer interface libraries to plain TeX. but, if we want another wheel, why not invent it? > sr> so, lets see I have plain TeX. now I just need > > to find a mainframe.... > > On a mainframe the sysop rules. That's the > pertinant definition of mainframe in that case, the horrible environment of Microsoft and/or Novell networks which many people live in is a `mainframe'. > deal less of it. There is no more problem for Plain > (or 'Generic' TeX) serving pdftex than there was a > decade ago with the problem of EPS graphics ah, right, eps inclusion, that area where no-one ever reached a consensus > Secastian will recall (with pleasure:) that my > 'Generic' solution "boxedeps.tex" (one macro file > for all formats and all drivers) preceeded his > LaTeX-specific solution get the facts right, pliz. the graphics package is useable with plain, and its not `mine' > using the still current > LaTeX design with one file per driver plus a common > core (if I recall). of course it did, because it was and is the right way to do it. many other packages worked and work in the same way. nevertheless, boxedeps and its colleagues never achieved any decent widespread acceptance > Today, the all-inclusive all-exclusive TeX systems > like LaTeX ('mainframe' TeX?) are well ahead, but > the reasons for that are socio-economic, I would > say, and not at all technical. i wonder what this means :-} sebastian 25-Nov-2000 16:19:09-GMT,2264;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29834 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:19:08 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23736 for pdftex-list; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:43:47 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23733 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:43:46 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13zhU7-0004gl-00; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:43:27 +0000 Received: from max63.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.63] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 13zhU8-0004wN-00; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:43:28 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14879.54621.33677.176634@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:06:05 +0000 To: alou@mazars.es Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Broken links In-Reply-To: <412569A1.004C7B38.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> References: <412569A1.004C7B38.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk alou@mazars.es writes: > I'm using pdftex (3.14159-14f-released-20000525), hyperref (2000/07/02 > v6.70m) and Perl to create database documentation automatically. > The script generates lots of \hyperlink and \hypertarget to link the > different database objects > > When the compilation ends, I get warnings like this > > >! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{field.5000578} has been referenced but does > not exist, replaced by a fixed one, ... > Previous versions of pdftex just didn't make anything with that kind of > broken links. Can I get those broken links to link me to nowhere > ---that is, I want them to do nothing---, not to a fixed destination? perhaps it would help if you explained _why_ you have broken links? instead of treating the symptoms, why not cure the disease? sebastian 25-Nov-2000 21:53:12-GMT,2797;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04995 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:53:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24195 for pdftex-list; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 16:17:29 -0500 Received: from freebsd.pkt.com.pl ([212.160.117.142]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24192 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 16:17:18 -0500 Received: from stas ([10.0.0.27]) by freebsd.pkt.com.pl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA24878; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 22:13:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stas@pkt.pl) Message-ID: <003901c05724$810b1440$1b00000a@pkt.pl> From: =?iso-8859-1?B?U3Rhbmlzs2F3IFJvbWHxc2tp?= To: "Sebastian Rahtz" , Cc: References: <412569A1.004C7B38.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> <14879.54621.33677.176634@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Subject: Odp: Broken links Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 22:13:04 +0100 Organization: Polskie Ksiazki Telefoniczne MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2417.2000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: Sebastian Rahtz To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Broken links > alou@mazars.es writes: > > I'm using pdftex (3.14159-14f-released-20000525), hyperref (2000/07/02 > > v6.70m) and Perl to create database documentation automatically. > > The script generates lots of \hyperlink and \hypertarget to link the > > different database objects > > > > When the compilation ends, I get warnings like this > > > > >! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{field.5000578} has been referenced but does > > not exist, replaced by a fixed one, > ... > > Previous versions of pdftex just didn't make anything with that kind of > > broken links. Can I get those broken links to link me to nowhere > > ---that is, I want them to do nothing---, not to a fixed destination? > > perhaps it would help if you explained _why_ you have broken links? > instead of treating the symptoms, why not cure the disease? > > sebastian Hello, Maye the procedures and files is OK. I have experienced the same messages with completely LEGAL links referring to specified pages (not "named destinations") and the produced .PDF WAS OK!, under 14f version (Win port). After upgrade to 14g obsolete messages have disappeared - and the produced .PDF is still ok ;-)). Stanislaw Romanski 26-Nov-2000 17:55:06-GMT,2028;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23178 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:55:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25978 for pdftex-list; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:12:15 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25975 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:11:59 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 1405L9-0002bh-00; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:11:47 +0000 Received: from max83.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.83] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 1405L6-0008Jg-00; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:11:44 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14880.13679.348667.877962@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 21:55:59 +0000 To: stas@pkt.com.pl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Odp: Broken links In-Reply-To: <003901c05724$810b1440$1b00000a@pkt.pl> References: <412569A1.004C7B38.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> <14879.54621.33677.176634@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <003901c05724$810b1440$1b00000a@pkt.pl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I have experienced the same messages with completely LEGAL links referring > to specified pages (not "named destinations") and the produced .PDF WAS OK!, > under 14f version (Win port). After upgrade to 14g obsolete messages have > disappeared - and the produced .PDF is still ok ;-)). Its not at all impossible that some versions of pdftex had errors in which produced wrong messages. It does seem a good idea to try the very latest (14h), if in doubt. sebastian 26-Nov-2000 17:55:08-GMT,2135;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23182 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:55:06 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25983 for pdftex-list; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:12:40 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25980 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:12:38 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 1405Lv-0002cL-00; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:12:35 +0000 Received: from max83.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.83] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 1405Lv-0008LS-00; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:12:36 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14881.15629.285235.396818@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:40:45 +0000 To: j.knespl@volny.cz cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: 3 questions re pdftex In-Reply-To: <200011241317.IAA21371@tug.org> References: <200011241317.IAA21371@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk remember that the list does not accept postings from non-members Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [Jarosav Ucar Knespl Nemcicky ] > 1. I would like to know , if there is any possibility how to use package > texdraw with pdftex. (lines are not generated correctly) can anyone comment? I dont know anything about texdraw. Many people recommend using Metapost.... > 2. How can I set security atributes of pdf file you cannot, with pdftex > 3. How can I generate bookmarks similar to table of contents... this is explained and demonstrated in the documentation of the hyperref package, which provides an interface sebastian 26-Nov-2000 21:37:42-GMT,3045;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26770 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:37:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26269 for pdftex-list; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:07:24 -0500 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26266 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:07:22 -0500 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA21092; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:07:19 +0100 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:07:19 +0100 Message-Id: <200011262107.WAA21092@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Sebastian Rahtz" Cc: j.knespl@volny.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: 3 questions re pdftex In-Reply-To: <14881.15629.285235.396818@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <200011241317.IAA21371@tug.org> <14881.15629.285235.396818@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rahtz writes: >> 1. I would like to know , if there is any possibility how to >> use package texdraw with pdftex. (lines are not generated >> correctly) > can anyone comment? I dont know anything about texdraw. Many > people recommend using Metapost.... Hi, texdraw makes heavy use of ps \specials. You need dvips when you use it with plain TeX, and it works with any ps driver if it is used under LaTeX2e. I suspect that it will never run with pdftex because it uses PostScript features that are not available in pdf, i.e. arithmetic (\realdiv{value1}{value2}). teTeX provides a texinfo documentation that can be accessed by the command "texdoc texdraw". Maybe texdraw should be mentioned in the Graphics Companion, though it's less powerfull than pstricks. What do you think, Sebastian? One way to use texdraw with pdftex is to generate the graphics in a separate file, run it through dvips -E to generate a tight bounding box and then convert it to pdf using epstopdf. For more complex graphics, I think, Metapost is the best choice. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Nov-2000 0:09:12-GMT,3019;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29197 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:09:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26463 for pdftex-list; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:36:21 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26460 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:36:19 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 140BLF-0001v4-00; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:36:17 +0000 Received: from max87.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.87] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 140BLG-00001B-00; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:36:18 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14881.37815.254502.499427@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:50:31 +0000 To: reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de Cc: j.knespl@volny.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: 3 questions re pdftex In-Reply-To: <200011262107.WAA21092@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> References: <200011241317.IAA21371@tug.org> <14881.15629.285235.396818@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <200011262107.WAA21092@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Reinhard Kotucha writes: > texdraw makes heavy use of ps \specials. You need dvips when you use > it with plain TeX, and it works with any ps driver if it is used under > LaTeX2e. > > I suspect that it will never run with pdftex because it uses > PostScript features that are not available in pdf, i.e. arithmetic > (\realdiv{value1}{value2}). ah, right, forget it for pdftex. or run the diagrams in separate files with normal TeX+dvips, and convert the results to PDF. tedious, but easily wrapped up on a Makefile > teTeX provides a texinfo documentation that can be accessed by the > command "texdoc texdraw". Maybe texdraw should be mentioned in the > Graphics Companion, though it's less powerfull than pstricks. What do > you think, Sebastian? I do now recall looking at texdraw, and things like it, when we did the graphics companion; and I decided that we should not cover them, unless I could see anything not covered by PSTricks. PST is, I continue to believe, so far ahead of all other similar packages that it is madness not to adopt it if you want the `PS \special' method of drawing. > One way to use texdraw with pdftex is to generate the graphics in a > separate file, run it through dvips -E to generate a tight bounding > box and then convert it to pdf using epstopdf. agreed > For more complex graphics, I think, Metapost is the best choice. agreed sebastian 27-Nov-2000 1:46:06-GMT,3301;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01084 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:46:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA26586 for pdftex-list; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:15:06 -0500 Received: from mailman.lanl.gov (mailman.lanl.gov [128.165.5.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26583 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:15:04 -0500 Received: from qcd.lanl.gov (qcd.lanl.gov [128.165.23.46]) by mailman.lanl.gov (8.10.1/8.10.1/(cic-5, 6/12/00)) with ESMTP id eAR1Evf29515; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:14:57 -0700 Received: (from tanmoy@localhost) by qcd.lanl.gov (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id SAA20000; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:14:57 -0700 (MST) From: Tanmoy Bhattacharya MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14881.46480.589937.74290@qcd.lanl.gov> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:14:56 -0700 (MST) To: Reinhard Kotucha Cc: "Sebastian Rahtz" , j.knespl@volny.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: 3 questions re pdftex In-Reply-To: <200011262107.WAA21092@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> References: <200011241317.IAA21371@tug.org> <14881.15629.285235.396818@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <200011262107.WAA21092@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.4.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk In <200011262107.WAA21092@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> dated 22:07:19 +0100 Sunday November 26, 2000, Reinhard Kotucha writes > I suspect that it will never run with pdftex because it uses > PostScript features that are not available in pdf, i.e. arithmetic > (\realdiv{value1}{value2}). Not a good reason. Almost all calculations can be done in TeX and the hardwired values used in pdf. (There are a few things which cannot be done in pdf properly, like snap to device grid, because they depend on non-constant values. That is an extremely small set.) For examples of arithmetic in TeX, I had contributed something here a long time back (calculating the CTM for an arbitrary rotation) which I saw the other day with someone, so it forms a part of something or the other now (or some archive somewhere must still have it.) Real division is a cinch compared to calculating trigonometric functions :-) Texdraw can create an XObject for every figure it gets (presumably the pdflastobj etc. that I keep glancing at in various posts to this list are related to creation of XObjects), and then it can use it whenever needed just by a `do' (an ordinary pdfliteral). This can be used to eliminates the defs that it currently needs, without sacrificing output file size problems. In any case, the main problem is no one seems to have the time to sit down and do it... it won't be a surface change. Macros will need to be execute in the stomach when now it does so in the mouth, etc. Yes, I have often heard that pstricks is undoable. I took a look at it, and had come up with the XObject idea described above, but never had the time to pursue it further. I am reasonably sure the major part of both texdraw and pstricks are doable in pdftex. Tanmoy 27-Nov-2000 7:42:30-GMT,2422;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07432 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:42:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27260 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 02:06:21 -0500 Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr (matups.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.4]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA27257 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 02:06:18 -0500 Received: from topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (topodyn.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.50.70]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.11.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id eAR767704618 ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:06:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from lcs@localhost) by topodyn.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA05124; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:06:06 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:06:06 +0100 (MET) From: Laurent Siebenmann Message-Id: <200011270706.IAA05124@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> To: Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk, lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Plain support for pdftex Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Robin, Hans, r> i read on and find you claiming that plain users > don't support each other for socio-economic reasons. > odd. does this just mean they're lazy? Joking aside, a major reason for the lack of substantial mutual support among Plain users has been a go-it-alone attitude. That's *sociological*. Knuth's self-contained in-depth documentation (supplemented by many more didactic works) gives Plain users/programmers the impression that no collaboration among Plain packages is really necessary. In the vastly enlarged picture opened by pdftex (think of Hans' recent sketch!) that sort of built-on-bedrock autonomy may be coming to an end. The pyramidal construction of programmer interface libraries has proved itself for the still more complex Mac Win and Linux programming environments. That's why I mentioned the possibility for pdftex. Hans might be the one best placed to initiate such a discipline in pdftex if, in spite of doubts, he sees sense in it for for his own projects. Linux provides one of the best working models for this sort of multi-programmer discipline. On the other hand a single classical << PDFtricks >> package similar to PStricks but for Plain pdftex might redress the situation. Laurent S. 27-Nov-2000 9:26:45-GMT,4091;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09058 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 02:26:44 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA27398 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:51:02 -0500 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27395 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:51:00 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.22.234]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G4ODWS00.MHZ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:50:52 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001127085241.01d1c100@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:52:41 +0100 To: Tanmoy Bhattacharya From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: 3 questions re pdftex Cc: Reinhard Kotucha , "Sebastian Rahtz" , j.knespl@volny.cz, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <14881.46480.589937.74290@qcd.lanl.gov> References: <200011262107.WAA21092@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> <200011241317.IAA21371@tug.org> <14881.15629.285235.396818@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <200011262107.WAA21092@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 06:14 PM 11/26/00 -0700, Tanmoy Bhattacharya wrote: >For examples of arithmetic in TeX, I had contributed something here a >long time back (calculating the CTM for an arbitrary rotation) which I >saw the other day with someone, so it forms a part of something or the >other now (or some archive somewhere must still have it.) Real >division is a cinch compared to calculating trigonometric functions >:-) I use your transformation macro [slightly adapted] in the mp to pdf converter which is used in context / latex / plain. On behalf of the documentation you also wrote an explanation of the vector math used, which is also included in the documentation. So, your code is traveling around the world now -) >Texdraw can create an XObject for every figure it gets (presumably the >pdflastobj etc. that I keep glancing at in various posts to this list >are related to creation of XObjects), and then it can use it whenever >needed just by a `do' (an ordinary pdfliteral). This can be used to >eliminates the defs that it currently needs, without sacrificing >output file size problems. > >In any case, the main problem is no one seems to have the time to sit >down and do it... it won't be a surface change. Macros will need to >be execute in the stomach when now it does so in the mouth, etc. Yes, >I have often heard that pstricks is undoable. I took a look at it, >and had come up with the XObject idea described above, but never had >the time to pursue it further. I am reasonably sure the major part of >both texdraw and pstricks are doable in pdftex. There is a problem with xobjects: they crop. And, in graphic you don't always want to crop. Also, they are kind of inaccurate when it comes to the boundingbox, so the macro routines should have compensations for this. I'm not sure to what extend texdraw is demanding in terms of large dimensions. In any case, i would opt for letting texraw produce mp code and process that. The mixture of tex and mp code works quite well. [i did write some macros for handling tpic specials, using mp as intermediate format, as well as macros for emtex specials, which can be processed without mp, but i must admit that i never use it myself] Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Nov-2000 10:23:20-GMT,2039;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09940 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:23:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27552 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:46:19 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA27549 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 04:46:17 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 140KrY-0000eS-00; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:46:16 +0000 Received: from spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.15.17]) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 140KrZ-0005jL-00; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:46:17 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14882.11697.217014.713756@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:47:29 +0000 To: tanmoy@qcd.lanl.gov Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: 3 questions re pdftex In-Reply-To: <14881.46480.589937.74290@qcd.lanl.gov> References: <200011241317.IAA21371@tug.org> <14881.15629.285235.396818@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <200011262107.WAA21092@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> <14881.46480.589937.74290@qcd.lanl.gov> X-Mailer: VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Tanmoy Bhattacharya writes: > Not a good reason. Almost all calculations can be done in TeX and the > hardwired values used in pdf. .... > In any case, the main problem is no one seems to have the time to sit > down and do it... it won't be a surface change. well, quite. it would be such a major rewrite, it would be a new package.. in which case > I am reasonably sure the major part of > both texdraw and pstricks are doable in pdftex. it would be better to concentrate on PSTricks sebastian 27-Nov-2000 10:40:34-GMT,5202;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10215 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:40:33 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA27589 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 05:05:09 -0500 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27586 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 05:05:08 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.23.16]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G4OHBS01.U0M; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:04:40 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001127105819.008ca760@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:58:19 +0100 To: Laurent Siebenmann From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Plain support for pdftex Cc: Robin.Fairbairns@cl.cam.ac.uk, lcs@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200011270706.IAA05124@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:06 AM 11/27/00 +0100, Laurent Siebenmann wrote: >Robin, Hans, > >r> i read on and find you claiming that plain users > > don't support each other for socio-economic reasons. > > odd. does this just mean they're lazy? > >Joking aside, a major reason for the lack of substantial >mutual support among Plain users has been a go-it-alone >attitude. That's *sociological*. Knuth's self-contained >in-depth documentation (supplemented by many more >didactic works) gives Plain users/programmers the >impression that no collaboration among Plain packages is >really necessary. I have the impression that Knuths main idea about the usage was that one should write a style for each publication. This makes sense when one spends say 100 hours writing and 1 hour macro hacking, but since in many situations many docs are made in less time, one quite soon starts thinking of reusing components which is then the first step to a macro package. In spite of all documentation and articles [which often reflect the way an author thinks of solving problems, which is not per definitions those of others] one ends up struggling with some vague features and side effects. Given a clearly defined in/output, there are no probloems, but handling all cases is kind of hard to implement. In this respect I think that tex was in the first place meant for plain usage, but its typographic quality triggered non plain usage too. >In the vastly enlarged picture opened by pdftex (think of >Hans' recent sketch!) that sort of built-on-bedrock >autonomy may be coming to an end. The pyramidal >construction of programmer interface libraries has >proved itself for the still more complex Mac Win and >Linux programming environments. That's why I mentioned the >possibility for pdftex. Hans might be the one best >placed to initiate such a discipline in pdftex if, in >spite of doubts, he sees sense in it for for his own >projects. Linux provides one of the best working models >for this sort of multi-programmer discipline. It's in my schedule to more clearly separate layers in context so that [which i sometimes need] can use components in more plain or specific situations. It should also permit users to set up a framework and pop in his/her own routines. [i'm currently extending the otr model for this]. The biggest problem there is how to handle dependencies. On thing that handicaps building such libraries is that tex in many aspects lacks a clear typo model. There is for instance \baselineskip but not \bodyfontsize. The latter is not needed in plain tex, but quite handy when exchanging code. An example: when i wrote the ppchtex [chemical formulas] module, i made sure that it also ran in latex [most users of it are latex users]. It took me quite some time to cook up fotn support for latex and in the process that even changed. I only needed to know the sizes at certain moments. A few years ago i extended the module with a metapost plugin for the pictex code generator. Making this latex/plain ready is hardly a problem, but i simply don't want to spend some 3 days on it now. So, it's a matter of info and interfacing and most of all time. >On the other hand a single classical << PDFtricks >> >package similar to PStricks but for Plain pdftex might >redress the situation. Did you take a look at metafun-p.pdf and metafun-s.pdf [follow context -> download -> beta link on our site]? Kind of metatricks as well as some 300 pages of metapost explanation [75% finished]. Much of it works quite well in plain, but the final plain interface is the last step [somewhere next year]. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Nov-2000 12:32:26-GMT,4227;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11964 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 05:32:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA27663 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 05:59:12 -0500 Received: from mail.rdc1.md.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.md.home.com [24.2.2.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27660 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 05:59:10 -0500 Received: from cc983429-a.hwrd1.md.home.com ([24.180.134.164]) by mail.rdc1.md.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001127105908.SAJ10139.mail.rdc1.md.home.com@cc983429-a.hwrd1.md.home.com>; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 02:59:08 -0800 From: Jeffrey McArthur To: "Sebastian Rahtz" Cc: Laurent.Siebenmann@math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:00:21 -0500 Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Reply-To: jeffmcarthur@home.com Message-ID: <5re42t0uhbve4t6fie42ef5rrp55tg9fhu@4ax.com> References: <200011240716.IAA27666@topodyn.math.u-psud.fr> <14879.45787.262180.685768@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <14879.45787.262180.685768@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id FAA27661 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:38:51 +0000, you wrote: >Laurent Siebenmann writes: > > Plain is the one approach that to pdfTeX that offers > > unlimited power. > >bizarre statement. the interface to pdfTeX's extra facilities is via >number of new TeX commands, which any TeX author can use. so we all >have the unlimited power. Actually you don't. With Plain it is reasonable and probably required to change the output routine to do any non-trivial project. This is the "normal" procedure for Plain. But replacing the output routine in LaTeX is considered very bad form. So the power of writing customized output routines is not a possibility unless you use Plain. Let me give you a concrete example. One of the projects we recently completed involved typesetting questionnaires. We had to print 30,000 separate questionnaires. The kicker was that we had to separate the questionnaires into separate piles to get the best rate for mailing them. If the questionnaire would print onto a single sheet of paper (1 to 2 pages) then they had to go into one pile, otherwise they had to go into another pile. We did that by replacing the output routine. Each questionnaire was typeset and all the pages were qued up in memory. Then when the questionnaire was finished, the output routine decided if it should shipout the questionnaire or not. So we could produce the two separate output stacks by just running PDFTeX twice over the input flipping the switch to output only single sheet questionnaires or multi-sheet questionnaires. This was an elegant solution to the problem. I would love to hear about some other solution that would not require hand sorting the 100,000+ pages of output. It may be possible to "graft" that approach into the LaTeX macros, but I think by the time you were done, very little of LaTeX would be left. (An aside, the questionnaires were generated as an XML file that was fed directly into PDFTeX without pre-processing it to make it more "digestable" to TeX. That is, we made extensive use of the ability to change the catcodes of the <, /, &, and > characters. Also there were three different logos that were included on the questionnaires depending on the values of some of the data in the questionnaire. The logos were part of the headline. So the macros to process the headline had to be aware of the data to know which logo to put on the page; something else that would be difficult to do with LaTeX.) Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ 27-Nov-2000 15:56:11-GMT,2825;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15833 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:56:10 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28322 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:15:32 -0500 Received: from smtp.datagrama.net (smtp.datagrama.net [212.9.64.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28319 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:15:30 -0500 From: alou@mazars.es Received: from JUPITER.GMTR.COM (jupiter.gmtr.com [212.9.67.146]) by smtp.datagrama.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id eARFFSr18200 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:15:29 +0100 (MET) Received: by JUPITER.GMTR.COM(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 412569A4.00530892 ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:06:56 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GMTR To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <412569A4.005307D2.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:06:54 +0100 Subject: Re: Broken links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi again The Perl script _always_ generates an \hyperlink command for every object in the database it finds. The matching \hypertarget is generated only if some other construction is found in the source files. I know the approach could be improved. But I didn't find a simple way ---other than making the Perl script look ahead--- to know if the \hypertarget will be found; but if it's not found, the future broken \hyperlink is alreday set. It would be nice to use some kind of conditional \hyperlink: if the \hypertarget exists, make a real link; if it does not exist, typeset the text of the \hyperlink but don't try to construct the link... Thanks, Toni "Sebastian Rahtz" on 25/11/2000 16.06.05 To: Antonio Lou/BCN/Consult/GMTR cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Broken links alou@mazars.es writes: > I'm using pdftex (3.14159-14f-released-20000525), hyperref (2000/07/02 > v6.70m) and Perl to create database documentation automatically. > The script generates lots of \hyperlink and \hypertarget to link the > different database objects > > When the compilation ends, I get warnings like this > > >! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{field.5000578} has been referenced but does > not exist, replaced by a fixed one, ... > Previous versions of pdftex just didn't make anything with that kind of > broken links. Can I get those broken links to link me to nowhere > ---that is, I want them to do nothing---, not to a fixed destination? perhaps it would help if you explained _why_ you have broken links? instead of treating the symptoms, why not cure the disease? sebastian 27-Nov-2000 16:15:54-GMT,3245;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16401 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:15:52 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28347 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:30:18 -0500 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28344 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:30:16 -0500 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 140Q9G-0007ZF-00; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:24:54 +0000 To: jeffmcarthur@home.com cc: "Sebastian Rahtz" , Laurent.Siebenmann@math.u-psud.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:00:21 EST." <5re42t0uhbve4t6fie42ef5rrp55tg9fhu@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:24:54 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:38:51 +0000, you wrote: > > >Laurent Siebenmann writes: > > > Plain is the one approach that to pdfTeX that offers > > > unlimited power. > > > >bizarre statement. the interface to pdfTeX's extra facilities is via > >number of new TeX commands, which any TeX author can use. so we all > >have the unlimited power. > > Actually you don't. With Plain it is reasonable and probably required to > change the output routine to do any non-trivial project. it's difficult to understand where hacking the or comes in the scheme of adding a few links to a plain tex file, which was where this thread started. > This is the > "normal" procedure for Plain. But replacing the output routine in LaTeX is > considered very bad form. itym "known to be very difficult to do stably and correctly". > So the power of writing customized output routines is not a possibility > unless you use Plain. false premise -> false conclusion. there are several packages on ctan that started in just that way, and now offer or modification as a matter of course. > [selection of whether to shipout a page or not on its content] > This was an elegant solution to the problem. I would love to hear about > some other solution that would not require hand sorting the 100,000+ pages > of output. > > It may be possible to "graft" that approach into the LaTeX macros, but I > think by the time you were done, very little of LaTeX would be left. eh? i have a clear recollection of a latex package on ctan (whose name i don't remember) that allows the user to decide which page(s) to ship out. and the multicol package works by accumulating several "pages" (i.e., columns, in its case) in memory prior to imposition, so there's even a model by one who knows the or well... but this is of course wildly off topic for a pdftex list. i always kill file such threads on c.t.t, too (after i've made my own futile contribution ;-). i promise i shan't witter any further on the topic of how you all ought to program... 27-Nov-2000 16:53:37-GMT,1916;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17767 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:53:36 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28493 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:18:01 -0500 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA28490 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:17:50 -0500 From: tim@maths.tcd.ie Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 27 Nov 2000 16:17:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex In-Reply-To: <5re42t0uhbve4t6fie42ef5rrp55tg9fhu@4ax.com> from Jeffrey McArthur at "Nov 27, 2000 06:00:21 am" To: jeffmcarthur@home.com Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:17:43 +0000 (GMT) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL49 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <200011271617.aa00391@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > (An aside, the questionnaires were generated as an XML file that was fed > directly into PDFTeX without pre-processing it to make it more "digestable" > to TeX. That is, we made extensive use of the ability to change the > catcodes of the <, /, &, and > characters. Also there were three different > logos that were included on the questionnaires depending on the values of > some of the data in the questionnaire. The logos were part of the headline. > So the macros to process the headline had to be aware of the data to know > which logo to put on the page; something else that would be difficult to do > with LaTeX.) This sounds interesting -- would you be willing to show us the XML/TeX file? Incidentally, did you look at David Carlisle's xmltex? 27-Nov-2000 21:00:52-GMT,2167;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26523 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:00:51 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29054 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:15:07 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29051 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:15:05 -0500 Received: from heraldgate1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.49] helo=frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 140Ug4-0001PK-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:15:04 +0000 Received: from max44.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.44] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend1.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 140Ug4-0002sl-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:15:05 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.82 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14882.48158.959471.326616@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:55:10 +0000 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Broken links In-Reply-To: <412569A4.005307D2.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> References: <412569A4.005307D2.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk alou@mazars.es writes: > The Perl script _always_ generates an \hyperlink command for every object > in the database it finds. The matching \hypertarget is generated only if > some other construction is found in the source files. the way I look at it, hacking in Perl is a 1000 times easier than hacking LaTeX style files, so I recommend solving the problem there :-} > I know the approach could be improved. But I didn't find a simple way > ---other than making the Perl script look ahead--- to know if the > \hypertarget will be found; but if it's not found, the future broken > \hyperlink is alreday set. for this sort of problem, god gave you XML and XSLT :-} sebastian 27-Nov-2000 22:24:26-GMT,1780;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28947 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:24:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29221 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:38:57 -0500 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29218 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:38:55 -0500 Received: from bar.loria.fr (bar.loria.fr [152.81.2.13]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/JCG-DG) with ESMTP id WAA26093; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:38:53 +0100 (MET) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by bar.loria.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3-client/JCG) id WAA16874; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:38:53 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200011272138.WAA16874@bar.loria.fr> Subject: Re: your mail To: xr@geo.hmg.inpg.fr Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:38:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: pdftex@tug.org, roegel@lorraine.loria.fr (Denis B. Roegel) In-Reply-To: <200011271929.UAA82601@mailhub1.isdnet.net> from "xr@geo.hmg.inpg.fr" at Nov 27, 2000 08:29:49 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk `xr@geo.hmg.inpg.fr' wrote > > Hello, > > I've succed in inserting a moving with the following code: > \pdfannot > { > /Subtype /Movie > /Rect [ 145 358 304 486 ] /T (my_movie) > /F 1 /Movie << /F (file.mov) /Poster true>> > /A true /C [ 1 1 1 ] /Border [ 0 0 1 ]} On what platform is this supposed to work? Would it work with .mpg files? I made a first attempt, and it failed. Thanks, Denis Roegel 27-Nov-2000 22:52:13-GMT,5626;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29651 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:52:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29291 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:16:40 -0500 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (root@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29288 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:16:34 -0500 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09462; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:16:30 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA14595; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:16:28 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200011272216.JAA14595@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex In-Reply-To: <5re42t0uhbve4t6fie42ef5rrp55tg9fhu@4ax.com> from Jeffrey McArthur at "Nov 27, 2000 06:00:21 am" To: jeffmcarthur@home.com Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:16:28 +1100 (EST) CC: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:38:51 +0000, you wrote: > So the power of writing customized output routines is not a possibility > unless you use Plain. > > Let me give you a concrete example. One of the projects we recently > completed involved typesetting questionnaires. We had to print 30,000 > separate questionnaires. The kicker was that we had to separate the > questionnaires into separate piles to get the best rate for mailing them. > If the questionnaire would print onto a single sheet of paper (1 to 2 pages) > then they had to go into one pile, otherwise they had to go into another > pile. We did that by replacing the output routine. Each questionnaire was > typeset and all the pages were qued up in memory. Then when the > questionnaire was finished, the output routine decided if it should shipout > the questionnaire or not. So we could produce the two separate output > stacks by just running PDFTeX twice over the input flipping the switch to > output only single sheet questionnaires or multi-sheet questionnaires. > > This was an elegant solution to the problem. I would love to hear about > some other solution that would not require hand sorting the 100,000+ pages > of output. That's certainly a nice solution, given the knowledge to be able to recode the output routine appropriately. How long did it take to develop and test this coding ? Another solution, assuming that each questionnaire is a separate pdfTeX job, is to write a script (in shell or Perl or whatever) that examines the .log file for each job, noting how many pages are produced. If just one, then add a line to a file: 'pdftex xyzabcd.tex' where xyzabcd is the name of the job just run. If two pages, add the line to a different file, if three add the line to yet another file, etc. After all the jobs have been checked in this way, you now have produced new scripts which will allow you to typeset just the jobs which produce a consistent number of pages on output. Run these scripts to get your consistent piles. This also required typesetting each job just twice. I'm sure the development time would have been much less (though that really depends upon what programming expertise you have available). The extensibility of this solution is clear --- add further tests to break-up the jobs into more categories; do other things in the scripts. A further advantage of this approach is that you have an automatic record of which jobs were done as 1, 2 or more pages, for later checking. (Though doubtless you built in some listing for this anyway.) > It may be possible to "graft" that approach into the LaTeX macros, but I > think by the time you were done, very little of LaTeX would be left. It should not be a matter of grafting anything. A large production job consists of many tasks. It should not be necessary o write a single program to handle all things at once, done in a single run. Just choose the right tools to do the best job at each of a collection of separate tasks. Choose these tasks appropriately and you will end up with a first-class result. > (An aside, the questionnaires were generated as an XML file that was fed > directly into PDFTeX without pre-processing it to make it more "digestable" > to TeX. That is, we made extensive use of the ability to change the > catcodes of the <, /, &, and > characters. > ... Also there were three different > logos that were included on the questionnaires depending on the values of > some of the data in the questionnaire. The logos were part of the headline. > So the macros to process the headline had to be aware of the data to know > which logo to put on the page; something else that would be difficult to do > with LaTeX.) True, so don't use LaTeX at that stage; it isn't an appropriate tool. Instead scan the input files with sed or Perl to detect what is needed, collecting a list of commands, as above. With the \headline definition given in a separate \input file, all you have to do is use different versions of that \input file with each grouping of jobs. All the best, Ross Moore > > Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur > a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services > http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ 27-Nov-2000 23:05:04-GMT,2945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00094 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:05:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29316 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:28:14 -0500 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29313 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:28:12 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.148.180]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G4PFR201.NZQ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:28:14 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001127232504.008f4d10@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:25:04 +0100 To: xr@geo.hmg.inpg.fr From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <200011271929.UAA82601@mailhub1.isdnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id RAA29314 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:29 PM 11/27/00 +0100, xr@geo.hmg.inpg.fr wrote: >Identité Message:<4.0.1.20001126205226.00e02c60@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> >X-Sender: xr@geo.hmg.inpg.fr(Non vérifié) >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:29:00 +0100 >To: pdftex@tug.org >From: Xavier Roguiez >Subject: Sounds and other inclusion >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hello, > >I've succed in inserting a moving with the following code: > \pdfannot > { > /Subtype /Movie > /Rect [ 145 358 304 486 ] /T (my_movie) > /F 1 /Movie << /F (file.mov) /Poster true>> > /A true /C [ 1 1 1 ] /Border [ 0 0 1 ]} > >But I've tried to insert a sound (.wav) into pdflatex. and ''ve not succeed >with the following code: > \pdfannot > { > /Subtype /Sound > /Rect [ 145 358 304 486 ] /T (my_sound) > /F 1 /Movie << /F (file.wav) /Poster true>> > /A true /C [ 1 1 1 ] /Border [ 0 0 1 ]} > >More generally, where can I get informations about same inclusion like >javascript code. The subtype is just /Movie since the movie player (at least the latest versions) handles it. [actually, the movie player an handle many formats, if not adobe had limited it usage by not accepting suffices, even animations could work]. Sound works ok here, but what are the /A and /Poster keys doing there? Omit them. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Nov-2000 9:02:14-GMT,3400;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13117 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 02:02:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30520 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:26:45 -0500 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA30517 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:26:42 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.199]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id G4Q7FM01.B66; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:26:10 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:24:03 +0100 To: Robin Fairbairns From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 03:24 PM 11/27/00 +0000, Robin Fairbairns wrote: >> [selection of whether to shipout a page or not on its content] >> This was an elegant solution to the problem. I would love to hear about >> some other solution that would not require hand sorting the 100,000+ pages >> of output. >> >> It may be possible to "graft" that approach into the LaTeX macros, but I >> think by the time you were done, very little of LaTeX would be left. > >eh? i have a clear recollection of a latex package on ctan (whose >name i don't remember) that allows the user to decide which page(s) to >ship out. and the multicol package works by accumulating several >"pages" (i.e., columns, in its case) in memory prior to imposition, so >there's even a model by one who knows the or well... The problem discusses, namely selecting pages, is not so much an output routine (\output) problem. Also, when one want to hook into \output, there is the problem that the output routine can be invoked for whatever reason. Selective shipping out pages [or other hacks] can be implemented quite conveniently in a few lines of code by redefining \shipout in such a way that it works for every tex macro package [one may expect interference with an already redefined \shipout, but the original value is always available somewhere]. When overloading shipout, the [ranges of] pages can be kept track of by an independent page numbering scheme. So, it has nothing to do with plain, latex, context of whatever, but with 'pure tex'. The big advantage of plain tex is that it is fast. Concerning the 100,000+ pages, when there are multiple graphics on the page the change is quite big that you run out of objects. That would be a harder problem to solve -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Nov-2000 11:58:36-GMT,2178;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16125 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 04:58:34 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA30955 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 06:19:28 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA30952 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 06:19:26 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 140isE-0002DV-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:24:34 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA27629 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:18:02 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m140ilV-004wwRC; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:17:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:17:37 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex Message-ID: <20001128121737.U17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 09:24:03AM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-11-28 09:24:03 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > Concerning the 100,000+ pages, when there are multiple graphics on the page > the change is quite big that you run out of objects. That would be a harder > problem to solve -) More than 2^20 different objects? The 10GB file limit seems more likely. :-) Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ 28-Nov-2000 14:28:02-GMT,1751;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18871 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:28:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA31202 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:54:45 -0500 Received: from stunotes2.furman.edu (stunotes2.furman.edu [156.143.129.44]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA31199 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:54:43 -0500 Received: from furman.edu ([156.143.135.34]) by stunotes2.furman.edu (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.4) with ESMTP id 2000112808544322:16268 ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3A23B921.DA2D774B@furman.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:54:41 -0500 From: Mark Woodard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex References: <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on StuNotes2/Furman(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 11/28/2000 08:54:43 AM, Serialize by Router on StuNotes2/Furman(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 11/28/2000 08:54:44 AM, Serialize complete at 11/28/2000 08:54:44 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > i have a clear recollection of a latex package on ctan (whose >name i don't remember) that allows the user to decide which page(s) to >ship out. Could this be the everyshi package by Martin Schroder? -Mark Woodard 28-Nov-2000 14:53:14-GMT,2357;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19377 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:53:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA31257 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:12:29 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA31254 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:12:28 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 140lZd-0003P8-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:17:33 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA00413 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:12:10 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m140lU2-004wwRC; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:11:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:11:45 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex Message-ID: <20001128151145.V17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <3A23B921.DA2D774B@furman.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A23B921.DA2D774B@furman.edu>; from mark.woodard@furman.edu on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 08:54:41AM -0500 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-11-28 08:54:41 -0500, Mark Woodard wrote: > > i have a clear recollection of a latex package on ctan (whose > >name i don't remember) that allows the user to decide which page(s) to > >ship out. > > Could this be the everyshi package by Martin Schroder? My package "only" overloads \shipout and allows you to do with box255 before it's shipped out. You could easily save or discard pages. Another candidate are the midnight macros (somewhere in macros/generic) for n-up pages. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ 28-Nov-2000 18:17:16-GMT,2299;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25456 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:17:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31672 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:39:44 -0500 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA31669 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:39:41 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.139.135]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id G4QX2402.13M; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:39:40 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001128181300.00b6f4f0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:13:00 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20001128121737.U17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id MAA31670 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:17 PM 11/28/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-11-28 09:24:03 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> Concerning the 100,000+ pages, when there are multiple graphics on the page >> the change is quite big that you run out of objects. That would be a harder >> problem to solve -) > >More than 2^20 different objects? The 10GB file limit seems more >likely. :-) I'm not sure what the upper bound of pdftex is. Did you try? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Nov-2000 18:48:57-GMT,2742;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26385 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:48:55 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31743 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:10:47 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA31740 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:10:45 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 140pK0-0001hx-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:17:40 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA05620 for tug.org!pdftex; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:09:03 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m140pAx-004wwRC; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:08:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:08:19 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex Message-ID: <20001128190819.Z17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001128121737.U17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001128181300.00b6f4f0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001128181300.00b6f4f0@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 06:13:00PM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-11-28 18:13:00 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 12:17 PM 11/28/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > >On 2000-11-28 09:24:03 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> Concerning the 100,000+ pages, when there are multiple graphics on the page > >> the change is quite big that you run out of objects. That would be a harder > >> problem to solve -) > > > >More than 2^20 different objects? The 10GB file limit seems more > >likely. :-) > > I'm not sure what the upper bound of pdftex is. Did you try? Not yet. The largest form till now had some 300 pages on it and compiled to ca. 300 MB (in <30sec :). Anway: My jobs will always have one page. It seems _very_ unlikely that I'll reach the limits. :-) Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ 29-Nov-2000 4:25:46-GMT,1648;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11157 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:25:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA32700 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:49:39 -0500 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (root@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA32697 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:49:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eAT3mo407458; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:48:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu: cottrell owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:48:49 -0500 (EST) From: Allin Cottrell X-Sender: To: Paulo Ney de Souza cc: Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? In-Reply-To: <200011210019.QAA15282@ipanema.math.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: > I am certainly not trying to .... can you pass the sources to the examples > at the bottom half of the page ? > > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/index.html > > so I can post them too ? These are the ones I was refering to ... A few of the examples there are mine. If you like, I'd be glad to send you source for any of them. Allin Cottrell. 29-Nov-2000 5:26:03-GMT,1803;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12258 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:26:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00323 for pdftex-list; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:55:22 -0500 Received: from math.berkeley.edu (gold.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.61]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00320 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:55:19 -0500 Received: (from desouza@localhost) by math.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04535; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:55:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:55:13 -0800 (PST) From: Paulo Ney de Souza Message-Id: <200011290455.UAA04535@math.berkeley.edu> To: cottrell@wfu.edu, desouza@math.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? Cc: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am setting a site for PDFTeX sources here in Berkeley right now, and I can get started with yours, please send them in. Paulo Ney >From cottrell@wfu.edu Tue Nov 28 19:49:26 2000 >From: Allin Cottrell >To: Paulo Ney de Souza >cc: >Subject: Re: pdfTeX source of manual? tutorials? > >On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Paulo Ney de Souza wrote: > >> I am certainly not trying to .... can you pass the sources to the examples >> at the bottom half of the page ? >> >> http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/index.html >> >> so I can post them too ? These are the ones I was refering to ... > >A few of the examples there are mine. If you like, I'd be glad >to send you source for any of them. > >Allin Cottrell. 29-Nov-2000 9:47:37-GMT,3041;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17110 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:47:36 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA01026 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 04:06:27 -0500 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01023 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 04:06:24 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.141.17]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id G4S3YN03.N61; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:06:23 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001129093549.0199e5c0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:35:49 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20001128190819.Z17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001128181300.00b6f4f0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001128121737.U17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001128181300.00b6f4f0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id EAA01024 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 07:08 PM 11/28/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-11-28 18:13:00 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> At 12:17 PM 11/28/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >> >On 2000-11-28 09:24:03 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> >> Concerning the 100,000+ pages, when there are multiple graphics on the page >> >> the change is quite big that you run out of objects. That would be a harder >> >> problem to solve -) >> > >> >More than 2^20 different objects? The 10GB file limit seems more >> >likely. :-) >> >> I'm not sure what the upper bound of pdftex is. Did you try? > >Not yet. The largest form till now had some 300 pages on it and >compiled to ca. 300 MB (in <30sec :). >Anway: My jobs will always have one page. It seems _very_ >unlikely that I'll reach the limits. :-) It depends, there can be many objects in such a form, but for me the 200.000 objects max that i default to normally is enough. When you've got the disk space and runtime, you may try (plain): \def\page{.\vfill\eject\page} \page to see where the story ends Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Nov-2000 10:08:07-GMT,2658;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA17463 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 03:08:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA01069 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 04:32:33 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01066 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 04:32:31 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 1413i2-0005Hk-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:39:26 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA13853 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:31:05 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m1413ZH-004wwRC; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:30:23 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:30:23 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex Message-ID: <20001129103023.E17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org References: <3.0.6.32.20001128181300.00b6f4f0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001128121737.U17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001128181300.00b6f4f0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001128190819.Z17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001129093549.0199e5c0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001129093549.0199e5c0@pop.wxs.nl>; from pragma@wxs.nl on Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 09:35:49AM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-11-29 09:35:49 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > It depends, there can be many objects in such a form, but for me the > 200.000 objects max that i default to normally is enough. > > When you've got the disk space and runtime, you may try (plain): > > \def\page{.\vfill\eject\page} \page > > to see where the story ends The TeXLive binaries reach page 20695 and can hold 64k objects¹. Enough for now (the largest form can contain 224 pages). Best regards Martin ¹Where do I change this? -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ 29-Nov-2000 16:18:27-GMT,2752;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24895 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:18:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01631 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:15:33 -0500 Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01628 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:15:31 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.23.6]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G4SL0Z00.0A3; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:14:59 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001129161211.0199e530@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:12:11 +0100 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der?= From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <20001129103023.E17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001129093549.0199e5c0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001128181300.00b6f4f0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001128121737.U17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001128181300.00b6f4f0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001128190819.Z17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001129093549.0199e5c0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id KAA01629 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 10:30 AM 11/29/00 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: >On 2000-11-29 09:35:49 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> It depends, there can be many objects in such a form, but for me the >> 200.000 objects max that i default to normally is enough. >> >> When you've got the disk space and runtime, you may try (plain): >> >> \def\page{.\vfill\eject\page} \page >> >> to see where the story ends > >The TeXLive binaries reach page 20695 and can hold 64k objects¹. >Enough for now (the largest form can contain 224 pages). > >Best regards > Martin > >¹Where do I change this? In texmf.cnf, search for 'obj' Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Nov-2000 17:14:23-GMT,2527;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27366 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:14:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01795 for pdftex-list; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:40:34 -0500 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01792 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:40:31 -0500 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA31549; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:40:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:40:28 +0100 Message-Id: <200011291640.RAA31549@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex In-Reply-To: <20001129103023.E17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20001128181300.00b6f4f0@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001128121737.U17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <20001128190819.Z17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> <3.0.6.32.20001129093549.0199e5c0@pop.wxs.nl> <20001129103023.E17712@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA01793 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Martin" == Martin Schröder writes: > The TeXLive binaries reach page 20695 and can hold 64k objects¹. > Enough for now (the largest form can contain 224 pages). > Best regards Martin > ¹Where do I change this? In my texmf.cnf: obj_tab_size=600000 Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-2000 12:18:02-GMT,2194;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA06060 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:18:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03879 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:34:18 -0500 Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03876 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:34:16 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id MAA19717 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:33:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id MAA15186; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:33:38 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:33:38 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200011301133.MAA15186@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdfTeX liste Subject: screen versions X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, how people on this list do manage print/screen versions regarding bitmaps? The specific case study is the following: i have a document assembled which includes many types of images (vector PDF, JPEG and PNG) from various sources, I had to scale down some bitmaps, or use them at their natural size. the pdftex file is 10 Mb I generate a laser-print version at 600 dpi with distiller -> 1.2 Mb I make an optimized version for web delivery -> 12 Mb... Of course I want the hypertext for the screen version, so I can't ask distiller to downsample the PDF to say 100 dpi. the simplest solution would be to generate low-res bitmaps but that pdftex views at the same size as the original ones when including: what are the available (batch) solutions to this problem? Thanks, Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX 27-Nov-2000 20:32:04-GMT,1861;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25717 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:32:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28947 for pdftex-list; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:29:58 -0500 Received: from mailhub1.isdnet.net (mailhub1.isdnet.net [195.154.209.21]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28944 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:29:54 -0500 From: xr@geo.hmg.inpg.fr Received: from styx-family ([195.154.135.205]) by mailhub1.isdnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA82601 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:29:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:29:49 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200011271929.UAA82601@mailhub1.isdnet.net> Apparently-To: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Identité Message:<4.0.1.20001126205226.00e02c60@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> X-Sender: xr@geo.hmg.inpg.fr(Non vérifié) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:29:00 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Xavier Roguiez Subject: Sounds and other inclusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, I've succed in inserting a moving with the following code: \pdfannot { /Subtype /Movie /Rect [ 145 358 304 486 ] /T (my_movie) /F 1 /Movie << /F (file.mov) /Poster true>> /A true /C [ 1 1 1 ] /Border [ 0 0 1 ]} But I've tried to insert a sound (.wav) into pdflatex. and ''ve not succeed with the following code: \pdfannot { /Subtype /Sound /Rect [ 145 358 304 486 ] /T (my_sound) /F 1 /Movie << /F (file.wav) /Poster true>> /A true /C [ 1 1 1 ] /Border [ 0 0 1 ]} More generally, where can I get informations about same inclusion like javascript code. Thanks for any advice Xavier 30-Nov-2000 17:56:24-GMT,2637;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17042 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:56:22 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04695 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:20:57 -0500 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04692 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:20:55 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.141.22]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G4ULHY02.LM1; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:20:22 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001130181609.015cc900@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:16:09 +0100 To: Thierry Bouche From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: screen versions Cc: pdfTeX liste In-Reply-To: <200011301133.MAA15186@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 12:33 PM 11/30/00 +0100, Thierry Bouche wrote: >Hi, > >how people on this list do manage print/screen versions regarding >bitmaps? > >The specific case study is the following: i have a document assembled >which includes many types of images (vector PDF, JPEG and PNG) from >various sources, I had to scale down some bitmaps, or use them at >their natural size. > >the pdftex file is 10 Mb >I generate a laser-print version at 600 dpi with distiller -> 1.2 Mb >I make an optimized version for web delivery -> 12 Mb... > >Of course I want the hypertext for the screen version, so I can't ask >distiller to downsample the PDF to say 100 dpi. > >the simplest solution would be to generate low-res bitmaps but that >pdftex views at the same size as the original ones when including: >what are the available (batch) solutions to this problem? You may consider dual res figures [see supp-pdf.tex and search for \pdfimages, plural]. That way you get a low res on the screen and the high res is only used for printing. Both are in the file, but only the low res are send when viewing. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-2000 21:47:25-GMT,1627;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24965 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:47:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05231 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:59:43 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA05228 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:59:41 -0500 Received: from remote142-152.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.152] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 141and-000502-00; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:59:26 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001130202141.0a4fb44e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:21:41 +0100 To: Mark Woodard , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex In-Reply-To: <3A23B921.DA2D774B@furman.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.20001128092403.00b5f1a0@pop.wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 08:54 28.11.2000 -0500, Mark Woodard wrote: > >> i have a clear recollection of a latex package on ctan (whose >>name i don't remember) that allows the user to decide which page(s) to >>ship out. You mean pagesel? Yours sincerely Heiko 30-Nov-2000 23:29:33-GMT,1741;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27841 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:29:32 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05445 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:56:54 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05442 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:56:52 -0500 Received: from remote142-1.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.1] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 141cdD-00062J-00; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:56:48 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001130220138.4d9fed7e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:01:38 +0100 To: Hans Hagen , Thierry Bouche From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: screen versions Cc: pdfTeX liste In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001130181609.015cc900@pop.wxs.nl> References: <200011301133.MAA15186@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 18:16 30.11.2000 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >You may consider dual res figures [see supp-pdf.tex and search for >\pdfimages, plural]. That way you get a low res on the screen and the high >res is only used for printing. Both are in the file, but only the low res >are send when viewing. This is also supported by pdftex.def since the last TUG conference at Oxford :-) Yours sincerely Heiko 1-Dec-2000 4:29:55-GMT,3053;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04111 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:29:54 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05836 for pdftex-list; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:56:44 -0500 Received: from smtp1.mail.yahoo.com (smtp1.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.69.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA05833 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:56:42 -0500 Received: from default.sjc.ca.bbnow.net (HELO default.sjc.ca.bbnow.net.) (24.219.121.195) by smtp.mail.vip.suc.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2000 13:17:42 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "Donald Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: Paul , pdftex@tug.org Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:15:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: custom paper size Reply-to: dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <3A25E25B.29726.1D07F5@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Paul; When using pdftex with latex, pdflatex, the paper size is determined \pdfpagewidth and \pdfpageheight \setlength{\pdfpagewidth}{8in} \setlength{\pdfpageheight}{8in} Does the trick. On 30 Nov 2000, at 9:53, Paul wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a problem somewhere between pdflatex and acrobat, > but am not sure where. The script below gives no > significant errors when pdflatex'ed. However, when the > resulting .pdf file is opened in acrobat, I get an error of: > > An unrecognized token 'pagesize' was found. > > The resulting pdf file page size is standard A4. > On the other hand, if I comment out the pdf special, and > use the \special{papersize...} command, then upon > pdflatex'ing, I get the message > > Non-PDF special ignored! > > I thought that both of these should work, but neither seems > to. > > Any suggestions would be welcome. > > Thanks, > > -Paul > =========================================================== > \documentclass{article} > > \special{pdf: pagesize width 10in height 10in} > % \special{papersize=10in,10in} > > \begin{document} > Hello world! > \end{document} > > ---------------------- > Paul E. Barbone > Physics Dept. > Institute of Cancer Research > pbarbone@icr.ac.uk Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com 1-Dec-2000 8:39:21-GMT,2571;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08843 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 01:39:20 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA06556 for pdftex-list; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 03:06:14 -0500 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06553 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 03:06:13 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id JAA25206 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:05:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id JAA11851; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:05:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:05:40 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012010805.JAA11851@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdfTeX liste Subject: Re: screen versions In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20001130220138.4d9fed7e@localhost> References: <200011301133.MAA15186@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <3.0.6.32.20001130181609.015cc900@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.1.16.20001130220138.4d9fed7e@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » >You may consider dual res figures [see supp-pdf.tex and search for » >\pdfimages, plural]. That way you get a low res on the screen and the high » >res is only used for printing. Both are in the file, but only the low res » >are send when viewing. do you mean that, when in a browser I open pages, only the screen images are downloaded? But I suppose that if the user dowloads the PDF, he will have 12 Mb anyway, no? » This is also supported by pdftex.def since the last » TUG conference at Oxford :-) Anyaway, my pb is how do i get both versions of the images, being sure that they have the very same geometry? (i made a test yesterday by converting JPEG to EPS with imagemagick, then distilling the EPS with screen parameters. The result is qualitatively and quantitavely correct, but once included, most of the images changes their sizes! especially small images yield something lost in a white ucropped page...) Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 1-Dec-2000 9:09:01-GMT,2613;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09294 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 02:08:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA06603 for pdftex-list; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 03:37:28 -0500 Received: from server-a.cs.interbusiness.it (HA-server-a.cs.interbusiness.it [151.99.250.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06600 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 03:37:21 -0500 Received: from ballabl.riskmap.net ([213.82.18.20]) by server-a.cs.interbusiness.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05520 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:28:39 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001201094133.00a490e0@mail.riskmap.net> X-Sender: 45083.luigi.ballabio@mail.riskmap.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 09:45:02 +0000 To: PdfTeX mailing list From: Luigi Ballabio Subject: Re: screen versions In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001130181609.015cc900@pop.wxs.nl> References: <200011301133.MAA15186@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 06:16 PM 11/30/00 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >At 12:33 PM 11/30/00 +0100, Thierry Bouche wrote: > >how people on this list do manage print/screen versions regarding > >bitmaps? > > > >The specific case study is the following: i have a document assembled > >which includes many types of images (vector PDF, JPEG and PNG) from > >various sources, I had to scale down some bitmaps, or use them at > >their natural size. > > > >the pdftex file is 10 Mb > >I generate a laser-print version at 600 dpi with distiller -> 1.2 Mb > >I make an optimized version for web delivery -> 12 Mb... > > > >Of course I want the hypertext for the screen version, so I can't ask > >distiller to downsample the PDF to say 100 dpi. > > > >the simplest solution would be to generate low-res bitmaps but that > >pdftex views at the same size as the original ones when including: > >what are the available (batch) solutions to this problem? > >You may consider dual res figures [see supp-pdf.tex and search for >\pdfimages, plural]. That way you get a low res on the screen and the high >res is only used for printing. Both are in the file, but only the low res >are send when viewing. But his file will still be 12 Mb - even larger since the low-res version of the images will be included too. Not exactly optimized for web delivery :) Bye, Luigi 1-Dec-2000 10:00:14-GMT,2299;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10054 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 03:00:12 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA06698 for pdftex-list; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 04:24:02 -0500 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (root@mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA06695 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 04:23:59 -0500 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 141mWr-00076y-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:30:53 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA20222 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:23:12 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m141mOP-004wwRC; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:22:09 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:22:09 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: pdfTeX liste Subject: Re: screen versions Message-ID: <20001201102209.C25327@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: pdfTeX liste References: <200011301133.MAA15186@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <3.0.6.32.20001130181609.015cc900@pop.wxs.nl> <3.0.1.16.20001130220138.4d9fed7e@localhost> <200012010805.JAA11851@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200012010805.JAA11851@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr>; from Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr on Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 09:05:40AM +0100 Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 2000-12-01 09:05:40 +0100, Thierry Bouche wrote: > do you mean that, when in a browser I open pages, only the screen > images are downloaded? But I suppose that if the user dowloads the > PDF, he will have 12 Mb anyway, no? Yes. PDF 1.3 supports alternate versions of images (p.255f of the spec) and you can specify which one will be used for printing. Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ 1-Dec-2000 12:41:31-GMT,12752;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12718 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 05:41:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA06927 for pdftex-list; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 06:47:34 -0500 Received: from www.caravan.ru (www.caravan.ru [212.24.52.9]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06924 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 06:47:32 -0500 Received: from [217.23.130.83] (helo=CARAVAN.caravan.ru) by www.caravan.ru with smtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 141oeq-0003KH-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2000 14:47:16 +0300 Message-ID: <008401c05b8c$4f520be0$538217d9@caravan.ru> From: "tvp" To: Subject: Problems with example.tex Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:46:13 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01C05BA5.743166E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C05BA5.743166E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! I started to use pdftex quite recently. Trying to process the = example.tex file I received the following error report which illustrates = both my problems: 1) pdftex does recognise some pdf primitives and doesn't recognise the = others. The main concern is \pdfimage failure. I really need this one; 2) what should be valid values in pdftex.map instead of (850)? I would be very grateful if somebody can propose some medicine to fix = the things. Best regards, Konstantin Mousatov tvp@tvp.ru -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14d (MiKTeX 1.20e) (preloaded = format=3Dplain 2000.11.3) 1 DEC 2000 10:29 **example.tex (example.tex{pdftex.cfg} (C:\texmf\tex\eplain\eplain.tex) (C:\texmf\pdftex\plain\misc\pdfcolor.tex) ! Undefined control sequence. l.67 \pdfthreadhoffset =3D1em % thread margins ?=20 ! Undefined control sequence. l.68 \pdfthreadvoffset =3D1em % ?=20 ! Undefined control sequence. l.99 \pdfannotlink % start of link annotation ?=20 Underfull \vbox (badness 10000) has occurred while \output is active \vbox(643.20255+2.5)x469.75499 .\hbox(158.99377+2.5)x469.75499, glue set 12.00002fil ..\vbox(158.99377+1.94444)x222.87749, glue set 4.99377 ...\pdfliteral{0 0 0 1 k} ...\pdfannot(216.81+10.0)x284.52756{ /Subtype /Text /Open true /Contents = (The f ollowing text was taken fr\ETC.} ...\pdfdest num1 fitbh ...\glue(\topskip) 3.55556 ...\hbox(6.44444+0.0)x222.87749, glue set 148.43292fil [] ...etc. ..\glue 0.0 plus 1.0fil ..\vbox(158.99377+0.0)x0.0, glue set 79.49689fil ...\glue 0.0 plus 1.0fil ...\hbox(0.0+0.0)x0.0 [] ...\glue 0.0 plus 1.0fil ..\glue 0.0 plus 1.0fil ..\vbox(158.99377+2.5)x222.87749 ...\glue(\splittopskip) 3.05556 ...\hbox(6.94444+0.0)x222.87749, glue set 0.14554 [] ...\glue(\baselineskip) 5.05556 ...\hbox(6.94444+1.94444)x222.87749, glue set 0.30858 [] ...\glue(\baselineskip) 3.11111 ...etc. [1{pdftex.map Warning: PDFTEX (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbot8rn': too = big value of SlantFont (850) Warning: PDFTEX (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcbt8rn': too big = value=20 of SlantFont (850) Warning: PDFTEX (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcrot8rn': too = big value of SlantFont (850) Warning: PDFTEX (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlcrt8rn': too big = value=20 of SlantFont (850) Warning: PDFTEX (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlsbot8rn': too = big value of SlantFont (850) Warning: PDFTEX (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlsbt8rn': too big = value=20 of SlantFont (850) Warning: PDFTEX (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlsrot8rn': too = big value of SlantFont (850) Warning: PDFTEX (file pdftex.map): invalid entry for `hlsrt8rn': too big = value=20 of SlantFont (850) }] ! 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Hello!
 
I started to use pdftex quite recently. Trying = to process=20 the example.tex file I received the following error report which = illustrates=20 both my problems:
 
1) pdftex does recognise some pdf primitives and = doesn't=20 recognise the others. The main concern is \pdfimage failure. I really = need this=20 one;
 
2) what should be valid values in pdftex.map = instead=20 of (850)?
 
I would be very grateful if somebody=20 can propose some medicine to fix the things.
 
Best regards,
Konstantin Mousatov
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------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C05BA5.743166E0-- 1-Dec-2000 14:00:05-GMT,1494;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14117 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 07:00:04 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA07031 for pdftex-list; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 07:58:19 -0500 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07028 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 07:58:17 -0500 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 141plV-0004oN-00; Fri, 01 Dec 2000 12:58:13 +0000 To: Heiko Oberdiek cc: Mark Woodard , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Plain support for pdftex In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:21:41 +0100." <3.0.1.16.20001130202141.0a4fb44e@localhost> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 12:58:13 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > >> i have a clear recollection of a latex package on ctan (whose > >>name i don't remember) that allows the user to decide which page(s) to > >>ship out. > > You mean pagesel? that's the one -- thanks. i couldn't at the time remember the name, even enough to get a hint that the archive searcher would help robin 1-Dec-2000 16:05:41-GMT,2650;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16836 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:05:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07288 for pdftex-list; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:20:56 -0500 Received: from batman.npl.co.uk (batman.npl.co.uk [139.143.5.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07285 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:20:51 -0500 Received: from herschel.npl.co.uk ([139.143.1.16]) by batman.npl.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eB1FKkJ26922; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:20:46 GMT Received: (from root@localhost) by herschel.npl.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB1FKjM19853; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:20:45 GMT Received: by herschel.npl.co.uk XSMTPD/VSCAN; Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:20:44 GMT Received: from tempest.npl.co.uk (tempest [139.143.18.16]) by capulin.cise.npl.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13388; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:20:43 GMT Received: (from rmb1@localhost) by tempest.npl.co.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id PAA29221; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:20:42 GMT Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:20:42 GMT From: Robin Barker Message-Id: <200012011520.PAA29221@tempest.npl.co.uk> To: pdftex@tug.org, tvp@caravan.ru Subject: Re: Problems with example.tex X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Hello! > > I started to use pdftex quite recently. Trying to process the example.tex file > I received the following error report which illustrates both my problems: > > 1) pdftex does recognise some pdf primitives and doesn't recognise the others. > The main concern is \pdfimage failure. I really need this one; You have to replace \pdfimage ... { ... } by \pdfximage ... { ... }\pdfrefximage\pdflastximage Or you can \usepackage{pdfimage} and continue to use \pdfimage. Where pdfimage.sty is a package I wrote, given below. > 2) what should be valid values in pdftex.map instead of (850)? Replace 850 by .850 throughout pdftex.map > I would be very grateful if somebody can propose some medicine to fix the things. > > Best regards, > Konstantin Mousatov > tvp@tvp.ru \ProvidesPackage{pdfimage}[2000/04/03 Define macro pdfimage $Revision: 1.1 $] \ifnum\pdftexversion>13 \def\pdfimage#1#{% \def\@pdfimage##1{\pdfximage #1{##1}\pdfrefximage\pdflastximage}\@pdfimage} \fi -- Robin Barker | Email: Robin.Barker@npl.co.uk CMSC, Building 10, | Phone: +44 (0) 20 8943 7090 National Physical Laboratory, | Fax: +44 (0) 20 8977 7091 Teddington, Middlesex, UK. TW11 OLW | WWW: http://www.npl.co.uk 1-Dec-2000 17:38:06-GMT,1836;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19355 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:38:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07559 for pdftex-list; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:01:28 -0500 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07555 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:01:26 -0500 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA06262; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:01:21 +0100 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:01:20 +0100 Message-Id: <200012011701.SAA06262@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "tvp" Cc: Subject: Problems with example.tex In-Reply-To: <008401c05b8c$4f520be0$538217d9@caravan.ru> References: <008401c05b8c$4f520be0$538217d9@caravan.ru> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Please do not post HTML to the list. It's very annoying! Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Dec-2000 13:43:28-GMT,2185;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA15129 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 06:43:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14251 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:58:54 -0500 Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14248 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:58:51 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id NAA00769 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:58:09 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id NAA04245; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:58:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:58:08 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012041258.NAA04245@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: screen versions In-Reply-To: <20001202102132.BDAD62317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> References: <200012010805.JAA11851@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <20001202102132.BDAD62317E@client44-3.kabela.oprit.rug.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » I guess that you got all the white around it because gs - which is » called by imagemagick - renders what it thinks is the entire page. The » following script by Sebastan Rahtz creates a page boundingbox matching » the figure boundingbox: yes, I know it. In fact, I thought the solution could be: take the JPEG, convert to EPS with imagemagick, apply epstopdf with -nogs option, feed the result to distiller with the right downsampling options. this essentially works, but not always (some images end up much larger as viewed by pdftex). I don't know why... Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX 4-Dec-2000 22:21:43-GMT,2576;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01608 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:21:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15276 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:36:33 -0500 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (root@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15273 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:36:29 -0500 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12943; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:36:25 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA28051; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:36:24 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200012042136.IAA28051@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: screen versions In-Reply-To: <200012041258.NAA04245@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> from Thierry Bouche at "Dec 4, 2000 01:58:08 pm" To: Thierry Bouche Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:36:23 +1100 (EST) CC: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > » I guess that you got all the white around it because gs - which is > » called by imagemagick - renders what it thinks is the entire page. The > » following script by Sebastan Rahtz creates a page boundingbox matching > » the figure boundingbox: > > yes, I know it. In fact, I thought the solution could be: take the > JPEG, convert to EPS with imagemagick, apply epstopdf with -nogs > option, feed the result to distiller with the right downsampling > options. > > this essentially works, but not always (some images end up much larger > as viewed by pdftex). I don't know why... In solving a problem like this for someone several weeks ago, I found that the .eps (!) file had the correct bounding box for the desired contents. However, it also drew a full A4 page-sized white filled rectangle as a backdrop for the image. Thus the %%BoundingBox did not represent the true contents of the image. I'll let you image what havoc this can play in various contexts. The headers suggested that it was quite recent software that did this ! So beware. All the best, Ross Moore > Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr > http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX 4-Dec-2000 18:03:40-GMT,2792;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22716 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:03:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14795 for pdftex-list; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:27:51 -0500 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (IDENT:root@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14792 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:27:48 -0500 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA11743; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:27:45 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:27:45 +0100 Message-Id: <200012041727.SAA11743@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Luigi Ballabio Cc: PdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: screen versions In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001201094133.00a490e0@mail.riskmap.net> References: <200011301133.MAA15186@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <3.0.6.32.20001130181609.015cc900@pop.wxs.nl> <5.0.0.25.0.20001201094133.00a490e0@mail.riskmap.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.37 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Luigi" == Luigi Ballabio writes: >> [...] >> You may consider dual res figures [see supp-pdf.tex and search >> for \pdfimages, plural]. That way you get a low res on the >> screen and the high res is only used for printing. Both are in >> the file, but only the low res are send when viewing. > But his file will still be 12 Mb - even larger since the low-res > version of the images will be included too. Not exactly > optimized for web delivery :) I could imagine that someone writes a tool to create linearized pdf which moves everything which is needed for printing only to the end of the file. A well designed browser should not download the whole file unless it is sent to a printer. I don't know whether the acrobat reader is smart enough, but I think that xpdf could be. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Dec-2000 14:31:58-GMT,2347;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23022 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 07:31:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16899 for pdftex-list; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:54:32 -0500 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16896 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:54:30 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id OAA29720; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 14:53:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id OAA00677; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 14:53:53 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 14:53:53 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012051353.OAA00677@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Reinhard Kotucha Cc: Luigi Ballabio , PdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: screen versions In-Reply-To: <200012041727.SAA11743@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> References: <200011301133.MAA15186@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <3.0.6.32.20001130181609.015cc900@pop.wxs.nl> <5.0.0.25.0.20001201094133.00a490e0@mail.riskmap.net> <200012041727.SAA11743@zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Concernant « Re: screen versions », Reinhard Kotucha écrit : « » I could imagine that someone writes a tool to create linearized pdf it exists (distiller or acrobat...) » which moves everything which is needed for printing only to the end of » the file. A well designed browser should not download the whole file » unless it is sent to a printer. I don't know whether the acrobat » reader is smart enough, of course it is, when running as a plug-in, but if you want a local copy of the file, it will download the whole thing. Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 5-Dec-2000 22:01:12-GMT,4003;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06818 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 15:01:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17624 for pdftex-list; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:27:19 -0500 Received: from mailproxy.de.uu.net (mailproxy.de.uu.net [192.76.144.34]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17621 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:27:16 -0500 Received: from gmx.de (pec-87-122.tnt5.b2.uunet.de [149.225.87.122]) by mailproxy.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id WAA10708 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 22:27:14 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A2D5DA8.754B0CEA@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 22:27:04 +0100 From: Tobias Burnus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdftex@tug.org" Subject: Ghostscript 6.50 available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, there has been no formal announcement yet (and the last change to the GS_6_5 CVS branch on sourceforge was 2000/12/05 09:39:48 whereas the release data according sourceforge is 2000/12/04!) --- but on http://www.ghostscript.com/article/4.html is now the offical announcement: ------------------------ AFPL Ghostscript 6.50 official release Posted 5 Dec 2000 by raph artofcode LLC, Aladdin Enterprises, and Artifex Software Inc. are pleased to announce the release of AFPL Ghostscript version 6.50. This is primarily a maintenance release from the 6.01 public release from the beginning of this year. It supersedes both AFPL Ghostscript 6.01 and the Artifex supported OEM version 6.12. In addition to a number of bug fixes, there have been major improvements to PDFwrite output driver and its underlying high level output API. This is the first release since artofcode LLC has taken over leadership of the future development and enhancement of Ghostscript. Ghostscript 6.50 has undergone rigorous testing and we are confident that 6.50 will provide a reliable contribution to the PDF and PostScript communities. Downloads are available from [http://SourceForge.net/projects/ghostscript/] and ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu. If you noticed the files available and downloaded them before the official release, you may have gotten a version with a memory leak. The correct file sizes are: ghostscript-6.50.tar.bz2 3643576 ghostscript-6.50.tar.gz 4240377 Thanks to everybody in the Ghostscript community for helping with this release. It's certainly taken more of my time and energy than I expected.Now that it's shipping, I'll be able to turn my energies toward future development. I look forward to working more closely with all of you in that regard. ------------------------ What is new? Well besides a security fix for UNIX (see bugtraq and sourceforge page) there is mainly updates in the area of ps2pdf (this is not an official list): - All Distiller options are now recognised and a lot of them are honoured (Ps2pdf.htm) - The support of PDF 1.3 (and PDF 1.4 for transparency although there is no specification; Adobe Illustrator uses this) and PostScript Level 3 has been improved (including colour space and CID-fonts). - The ps2pdf converter's font inclusion support has been enhanced - Aladdin's Ghostscript is now AFPL ghostsciript - lots of smaller bugs - reorganisation of the file What the future will bring: - A gs.dll/libgs.so will appear so that linking programs to ghostscript's library will be possible - PSWriter (ps2ps, pdf2ps) will be brought to the quality of pdfwriter What else is greate: - After the Aladdin version appeared the next GNU version was released. Thus we will see a GNU Ghoscript 6.01 soon. Tobias -- This above all: To thine own self be true / And it must follow as the night the day / Thou canst not then be false to any man. 6-Dec-2000 18:33:49-GMT,2024;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06586 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:33:47 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19656 for pdftex-list; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 12:49:21 -0500 Received: from villosa.wanadoo.fr (smtp-abo-1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.122]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19653 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 12:49:19 -0500 Received: from jacquesm (193.248.149.162) by villosa.wanadoo.fr; 6 Dec 2000 18:49:17 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01c05fac$7d3346e0$a295f8c1@jacquesm> From: "jacques.marot" To: "Pdftex@Tug.Org" References: <3A2D5DA8.754B0CEA@gmx.de> Subject: Re: Ghostscript 6.50 available Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:45:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tobias Burnus" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 10:27 PM Subject: Ghostscript 6.50 available I have just installed this software release 6.50 instead of release 6.01for windows, It works very well, but epstopdf.exe nor epstopdf.pl do not work any more, and send me the following error message: gs_init.ps. missing , yet Im sure is present in folder \gs6.50\lib have you the same problem, or I missed something in the installation. Reinstalling release 6.01 all works again very well §§§§§§§ § ^ ^ § @ @ ( . 0 . ) v ****o00o******o00o************* Hello I'm Jacques MAROT E-Mail : Jacques.marot@wanadoo.fr 20 rue de Picard 86190 MAILLÉ. Phone/fax : +335 49 60 86 23 ********************************* 6-Dec-2000 21:25:18-GMT,1968;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12379 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:25:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19987 for pdftex-list; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:53:35 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19983 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:53:31 -0500 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 143lZA-0002ti-00; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 20:53:28 +0000 Received: from max26.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.26] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 143lZA-0004c0-00; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 20:53:29 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14894.39584.282782.298556@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:59:28 +0000 To: jacques.marot@wanadoo.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: Ghostscript 6.50 available In-Reply-To: <001c01c05fac$7d3346e0$a295f8c1@jacquesm> References: <3A2D5DA8.754B0CEA@gmx.de> <001c01c05fac$7d3346e0$a295f8c1@jacquesm> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk jacques.marot writes: > I have just installed this software release 6.50 instead of release 6.01for > windows, > It works very well, but epstopdf.exe nor epstopdf.pl do not work any more, > and send me the following error message: gs_init.ps. missing , > yet Im sure is present in folder \gs6.50\lib possibly they set GS_LIB? the Unix perl script doesnt honestly, epstopdf does nothing except construct a command-line for GS. sebastian 7-Dec-2000 0:40:02-GMT,2061;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18559 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:40:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20301 for pdftex-list; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:08:50 -0500 Received: from andira.wanadoo.fr (smtp-abo-3.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.152]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20298 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:08:49 -0500 Received: from jacquesm (193.248.40.209) by andira.wanadoo.fr; 7 Dec 2000 01:08:47 +0100 Message-ID: <003d01c05fe1$80cbe3e0$d128f8c1@jacquesm> From: "jacques.marot" To: "Pdftex@Tug.Org" Subject: Re: Ghostscript 6.5 and epstopdf Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 01:06:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smith, Stephen" To: "'jacques.marot'" Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:47 PM Subject: RE: Ghostscript 6.50 available >It is possible that either you do not have the directory for 6.50 in your >path , it is my path of course because ghostscript 6.5 and gsview 3.4 with pdfwite driver works perfectly, it's only epstopdf who does not work. > -----Original Message----- > From: jacques.marot [SMTP:jacques.marot@wanadoo.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:46 PM > To: Pdftex@Tug.Org > Subject: Re: Ghostscript 6.50 available > ¸,;:!!!!!!!:;¸ § ^ ^ § @ @ ( . 0 . ) v ****o00o******o00o************* Hello I'm Jacques MAROT E-Mail : Jacques.marot@wanadoo.fr 20 rue de Picard 86190 MAILLÉ. Phone/fax : +335 49 60 86 23 ********************************* 7-Dec-2000 7:45:34-GMT,2548;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA29405 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 00:45:33 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA21083 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 02:13:50 -0500 Received: from villosa.wanadoo.fr (smtp-abo-1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.122]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21080 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 02:13:48 -0500 Received: from jacquesm (193.248.40.110) by villosa.wanadoo.fr; 7 Dec 2000 08:13:47 +0100 Message-ID: <002e01c0601c$dec3d260$5740f9c1@jacquesm> From: "jacques.marot" To: "Pdftex@Tug.Org" References: <003d01c05fe1$80cbe3e0$d128f8c1@jacquesm> Subject: Re: Ghostscript 6.5 and epstopdf Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:10:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: "jacques.marot" To: "Pdftex@Tug.Org" Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 1:06 AM Subject: Re: Ghostscript 6.5 and epstopdf > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Smith, Stephen" > To: "'jacques.marot'" > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:47 PM > Subject: RE: Ghostscript 6.50 available > > > >It is possible that either you do not have the directory for 6.50 in your > >path , > > it is my path of course because ghostscript 6.5 and gsview 3.4 with pdfwite > driver > works perfectly, it's only epstopdf who does not work. > > it is necessary to unintall and install again GSVIEW, my modifications in autoexec.bat and GSVIEW- options were not sufficient, I don't understand why ...? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jacques.marot [SMTP:jacques.marot@wanadoo.fr] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:46 PM > > To: Pdftex@Tug.Org > > Subject: Re: Ghostscript 6.50 available > > > > ¸,;:!!!!!!!:;¸ > § ^ ^ § > @ @ > ( . 0 . ) > v > ****o00o******o00o************* > Hello I'm Jacques MAROT > E-Mail : Jacques.marot@wanadoo.fr > 20 rue de Picard > 86190 MAILLÉ. > Phone/fax : +335 49 60 86 23 > ********************************* > > 7-Dec-2000 9:37:26-GMT,2274;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01735 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 02:37:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA21286 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 04:04:42 -0500 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21283 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 04:04:36 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.23.27]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id G56X7D00.AGE; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:04:25 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001207094530.01b65a60@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 09:45:30 +0100 To: "jacques.marot" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: Ghostscript 6.50 available Cc: "Pdftex@Tug.Org" In-Reply-To: <001c01c05fac$7d3346e0$a295f8c1@jacquesm> References: <3A2D5DA8.754B0CEA@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 06:45 PM 12/6/00 +0100, jacques.marot wrote: > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tobias Burnus" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 10:27 PM >Subject: Ghostscript 6.50 available > > >I have just installed this software release 6.50 instead of release 6.01for >windows, >It works very well, but epstopdf.exe nor epstopdf.pl do not work any more, >and send me the following error message: gs_init.ps. missing , >yet Im sure is present in folder \gs6.50\lib >have you the same problem, or I missed something in the installation. >Reinstalling release 6.01 all works again very well You have to change the environment vars GS_LIB etc too. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Dec-2000 13:57:48-GMT,2809;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07147 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 06:57:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA21670 for pdftex-list; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:20:33 -0500 Received: from AMath8.amt.ac.cn (amath8.amt.ac.cn [159.226.47.19]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21667 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:20:29 -0500 Received: from AMath13 (AMath13.amt.ac.cn [159.226.47.23]) by AMath8.amt.ac.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA16384; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 21:19:31 +0800 Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 21:22:42 +0800 (CST) From: "Mr. Wang Lei" X-Sender: lwang@AMath13 To: "jacques.marot" cc: "Pdftex@Tug.Org" Subject: Re: Ghostscript 6.5 and epstopdf In-Reply-To: <002e01c0601c$dec3d260$5740f9c1@jacquesm> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, jacques.marot wrote: The new gs6.50 change its registry from Aladdin to AFPL in Windows. So gsview can not find the GS_LIB and GS_DLL. you can use regedit to change the AFPL to Aladdin, it will be OK. Wang > > >It is possible that either you do not have the directory for 6.50 in > your > > >path , > > > > it is my path of course because ghostscript 6.5 and gsview 3.4 with > pdfwite > > driver > > works perfectly, it's only epstopdf who does not work. > > > > > > it is necessary to unintall and install again GSVIEW, > my modifications in autoexec.bat and GSVIEW- options > were not sufficient, I don't understand why ...? > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: jacques.marot [SMTP:jacques.marot@wanadoo.fr] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 1:46 PM > > > To: Pdftex@Tug.Org > > > Subject: Re: Ghostscript 6.50 available > > > > > > > ¸,;:!!!!!!!:;¸ > > § ^ ^ § > > @ @ > > ( . 0 . ) > > v > > ****o00o******o00o************* > > Hello I'm Jacques MAROT > > E-Mail : Jacques.marot@wanadoo.fr > > 20 rue de Picard > > 86190 MAILLÉ. > > Phone/fax : +335 49 60 86 23 > > ********************************* > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mr. Wang Lei Phone: 86-10-62541687 Institute of Applied Mathematics Email: lwang@amath8.amt.ac.cn Chinese Academy of Science Address: P.O.Box 2734, Beijing, 100080 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 11-Dec-2000 16:15:34-GMT,1303;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25121 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:15:33 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31719 for pdftex-list; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:25:51 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31716 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:25:48 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28106 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:25:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA12717 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:25:46 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200012111525.QAA12717@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: font validator? To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:25:46 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, does anyone know of a type1 and/or truetype font validator? Thanh 11-Dec-2000 16:15:34-GMT,1303;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25121 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:15:33 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31719 for pdftex-list; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:25:51 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31716 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:25:48 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28106 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:25:47 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA12717 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:25:46 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200012111525.QAA12717@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: font validator? To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:25:46 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, does anyone know of a type1 and/or truetype font validator? Thanh 12-Dec-2000 9:13:24-GMT,2152;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21176 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 01:48:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA01199 for pdftex-list; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:55:49 -0500 Received: from id080.wkap.nl (id080.wkap.nl [195.169.64.28]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01196 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:55:47 -0500 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #45008) id <01JXM0FLHMW0AOPSIR@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:55:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from wkap.nl ([194.171.67.81]) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.2-32 #43155) with ESMTP id <01JXM0FLEH0AAPURGR@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:55:36 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:52:00 +0100 From: S2P development Subject: Re: font validator? To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <3A35D920.46F16812@wkap.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <200012111525.QAA12717@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh wrote: > > Hi all, > > does anyone know of a type1 and/or truetype font validator? Depends on what you consider 'valid', I think. For Type1 and TrueType alike: if they are supposed to work with the operating system (ATM or the TTF microsoft rasterizer), then those are in fact the validating programs. Esp. true for ATM, which has many more constraints on Type1 fonts than the official spec. If they are supposed to print/subset correctly, try to print or subset them, if it works they are valid ... the specs are fairly useless, in both cases I don't know of *any* single program that interprets the whole spec and nothing but the spec. It's not too hard to come up with a Type1 validator according to Adobe's Type1 book (and/or the ATM compatibility supplement), but you'll soon discover that not even ATM is ATM-compatible ;) Greetings, Taco 12-Dec-2000 11:08:42-GMT,1548;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23856 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 04:08:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA01452 for pdftex-list; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 05:35:01 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01449 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 05:34:59 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24324 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:34:37 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14472 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:34:36 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200012121034.LAA14472@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: my thesis In-Reply-To: <20001211162153.A11563@gauss.noos.fr> from Damien WYART at "Dec 11, 0 04:21:53 pm" To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:34:36 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I put my thesis on http://www.fi.muni.cz/~thanh/download/thesis.pdf The typographic extensions of pdftex are described in details there. The thesis has been submitted, and I am not going to make any further change. Thanh 12-Dec-2000 18:15:48-GMT,2378;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04088 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:15:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02177 for pdftex-list; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:12:51 -0500 Received: from ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02174 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:12:48 -0500 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by ams.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10526 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:12:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:12:45 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Kacvinsky To: pdftex list Subject: Re: font validator? In-Reply-To: <3A35D920.46F16812@wkap.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have long thought about writing a font lint tool. What it would do is make sure that the font conforms to the Type 1 spec. I realize that just because a font conforms to the spec doesn't mean that it will work with ATM, etc... As for when I would write such a beastie? Hmm.... zYour guess is as good as mine. I am not so good about following through with things, so I try not to make promises! Tom On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, S2P development wrote: > Han The Thanh wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > does anyone know of a type1 and/or truetype font validator? > > Depends on what you consider 'valid', I think. For Type1 and > TrueType alike: if they are supposed to work with the operating > system (ATM or the TTF microsoft rasterizer), then those > are in fact the validating programs. Esp. true for ATM, which has > many more constraints on Type1 fonts than the official spec. > > If they are supposed to print/subset correctly, try to print > or subset them, if it works they are valid ... the specs are > fairly useless, in both cases I don't know of *any* single program > that interprets the whole spec and nothing but the spec. > > It's not too hard to come up with a Type1 validator according > to Adobe's Type1 book (and/or the ATM compatibility supplement), > but you'll soon discover that not even ATM is ATM-compatible ;) > > Greetings, Taco > 12-Dec-2000 19:39:34-GMT,3728;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06467 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:39:32 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02349 for pdftex-list; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:40:06 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02342 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:39:58 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28922; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:39:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA24278; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:39:53 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200012121839.TAA24278@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: my thesis In-Reply-To: from Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes at "Dec 12, 0 05:33:11 pm" To: carmenes@bioquimica.uniovi.es (Ricardo Sanchez Carmenes) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:39:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, thanks for congratulations from Richardo and many other people in this list. > I have a some (cosmetic) comments about your text that do not > affect the contents, only to improve its appearance: > > 1 - Why don't you use Type1 versions of cmr fonts in for the > samples ? Using Type3 fonts make them to render poorly on > the screen. Using Type1 versions would improove the screen > appearance without modifying its contents. the bitmaps are used because I cannot convert an expanded mf font to type1 on-the-fly. I might be possible one day, but at the moment not possible yet. > 2 - Outsiders like me would acknowledge to see the reproduction > of one page of the Mazarine Bible to appreciate the good > typography practices that you comment in the text. I would > suggest that you include a slide with a page of that Bible > during the disertation presentation. > > 3 - Why don't you add hyperlinks to the URL's in the reference > section ? Again the screen version would benefit without > changing anything in the text version. > > 4 - Why don't you add a URL to references 38 and 39, that is, > to your own work ! yes it would be better to do so, but the thesis has been submitted and I won't change it anymore. The pdf file is intended for printing, so I didn't make any hyperlink in it. > Althought my opinion bout the contents of your thesis is of > little interest, given that I am not a specialist at all, > I have the feeling that your thesis brings a substantial > improvement to computer typesetting. > > BTW, when is your disertation presentation to take place ? > And in which language ? > > I am one of your pdftex supporters from the earliest times > the project was made public through the pdftex-list. Are you > going to continue with it ? > > My congratulations again, that should be extended to your > thesis advisor. I don't know the datum of the final exam yet, probably in 3--4 months. It will probably be in czech. Most recently I got some more info about the hz program and the tools it used. I hope to do some more experiments to see whether it is possible to make further improvements. I am quite skeptic with it, but it certainly makes sense to play with it, at least to convince myself that I should try something else. Regards, Thanh 12-Dec-2000 19:04:50-GMT,1670;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05442 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:04:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02319 for pdftex-list; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:31:36 -0500 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02316 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:31:33 -0500 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.124]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G5GWRX00.Z82 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:31:09 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001212190950.0140ed30@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:09:50 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Hans Hagen Subject: thanh's thesis Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, You can find a copy of thanh's thesis at: http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/pdftex/thesis.pdf http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/pdftex/thesis-lin.pdf In some occasions this may be faster then the muni account. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-2000 14:32:04-GMT,2425;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13635 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:32:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06912 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:36:38 -0500 Received: from batman.npl.co.uk (batman.npl.co.uk [139.143.5.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06909 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:36:34 -0500 Received: from herschel.npl.co.uk ([139.143.1.16]) by batman.npl.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBEDaLa13739 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:36:22 GMT Received: (from root@localhost) by herschel.npl.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eBEDaKT21546 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:36:20 GMT Received: by herschel.npl.co.uk XSMTPD/VSCAN; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:36:19 GMT Received: from tempest.npl.co.uk (tempest [139.143.18.16]) by capulin.cise.npl.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12986 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:36:17 GMT Received: (from rmb1@localhost) by tempest.npl.co.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id NAA26428 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:36:16 GMT Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:36:16 GMT From: Robin Barker Message-Id: <200012141336.NAA26428@tempest.npl.co.uk> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: clipping included pdf X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have something like the following latex document \documentclass[a4paper,twoside]{report} \usepackage{graphicx} \begin{document} text text and more text; for at least half a page \begin{figure} \includegraphics[trim 0 0 0 50mm, clip]{foo} \end{figure} more and more text \end{document} I have a file foo.eps, and file foo.pdf created by epstopdf. With latex (and xdvi), the figure is cropped and the text is visible. With pdflatex (and acroread), the figure is not cropped and overwrites the text. Is this a known bug? Is there anything I can do to solve this, other than editting foo.eps? % pdflatex --version pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.1) 3.14159-0.14d kpathsea version 3.3.1 Robin -- Robin Barker | Email: Robin.Barker@npl.co.uk CMSC, Building 10, | Phone: +44 (0) 20 8943 7090 National Physical Laboratory, | Fax: +44 (0) 20 8977 7091 Teddington, Middlesex, UK. TW11 OLW | WWW: http://www.npl.co.uk 14-Dec-2000 18:51:51-GMT,1498;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21604 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:51:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07440 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:00:24 -0500 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA07437 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:00:21 -0500 Received: from remote142-139.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.139] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 146cfq-00000I-00; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:00:11 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20001214185054.3b8728ea@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:50:54 +0100 To: Robin Barker , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: clipping included pdf In-Reply-To: <200012141336.NAA26428@tempest.npl.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 13:36 14.12.2000 GMT, Robin Barker wrote: > \includegraphics[trim 0 0 0 50mm, clip]{foo} >With pdflatex (and acroread), the figure is not cropped and overwrites >the text. Update pdftex.def: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Yours sincerely Heiko 15-Dec-2000 0:38:57-GMT,1916;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01620 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:38:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08019 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:01:07 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.180]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08016 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:01:00 -0500 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 146iIz-0002qB-00; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:00:57 +0000 Received: from max46.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.46] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 146iIx-0004WT-00; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:00:56 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14905.22217.409105.67506@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:24:57 +0000 To: oberdan@gmx.de cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Daniel_Oberl=E4nder?= ] In-Reply-To: <200012141734.MAA07406@tug.org> References: <200012141734.MAA07406@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: oberdan@gmx.de ... > Sorry, but I don't understand how to insert the same bitmap > (JPEG's) several times without produce a bigger pdf file? > Can anybody help me how to use \pdfximage, \pdfrefximage and > \pdflastximage to get a solution? look at the file pdftex.def in the LaTeX graphics package distribution. it has a complete working solution. sebastian 15-Dec-2000 1:00:22-GMT,1690;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02044 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:00:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08082 for pdftex-list; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:28:59 -0500 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08079 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:28:52 -0500 Received: from bar.loria.fr (bar.loria.fr [152.81.2.13]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/JCG-DG) with ESMTP id BAA19452; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:28:49 +0100 (MET) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by bar.loria.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3-client/JCG) id BAA06800; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:28:48 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 01:28:48 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012150028.BAA06800@bar.loria.fr> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: how can I view an oversized document? Cc: roegel@lorraine.loria.fr Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I want to make a screen version of a poster and I would like therefore a page format such as 200cm * 30cm. I have no problem with tex accepting that, but I don't know how to have acroread display that large page. Is it possible? On a related note, how do I include a metapost figure with plain pdftex? When I try the following \input graphicx \hsize=200cm \vsize=30cm \includegraphics{e.1} \end I get (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/dvips.def)))) [1 Non-PDF special ignored!{/usr/local/tex/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map}{/usr/l ... Is it normal? Thanks, Denis 15-Dec-2000 9:04:12-GMT,2443;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11893 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 02:04:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA08941 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:20:46 -0500 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08938 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:20:42 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id JAA05415; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:20:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id JAA12663; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:20:09 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:20:09 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012150820.JAA12663@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: "Denis B. Roegel" Cc: pdftex@tug.org, roegel@lorraine.loria.fr Subject: Re: how can I view an oversized document? In-Reply-To: <200012150028.BAA06800@bar.loria.fr> References: <200012150028.BAA06800@bar.loria.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Concernant « how can I view an oversized document? », Denis B. Roegel écrit : « » » On a related note, how do I include a metapost figure » with plain pdftex? When I try the following » » \input graphicx » \hsize=200cm » \vsize=30cm you need to modify pdfpage{width,height} too, or it will be clipped. » \includegraphics{e.1} » \end » (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/dvips.def)))) [1 » Non-PDF special ignored!{/usr/local/tex/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map}{/usr/l » ... » » Is it normal? yes. graphicx.tex declares dvips as the default driver, I have this in the graphics.cfg used by pdftex: \DeclareOption{pdftex}{\def\Gin@driver{pdftex.def}} \ExecuteOptions{pdftex} \def\Gin@driver{pdftex.def} (i suspect that the latex stuff is ignored, and solely the brute force \def makes graphicx.tex switch to pdftex option) Thierry Bouche __ « Ils vivent pour vivre, et nous, hélas ! nous vivons pour savoir. » Charles Baudelaire, Paris. 15-Dec-2000 9:04:17-GMT,2634;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11897 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 02:04:16 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA08919 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:12:52 -0500 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08916 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 03:12:47 -0500 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl ([195.121.23.78]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G5LO5002.76X; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:12:36 +0100 Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA32341; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:09:20 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001215090644.01a1cd50@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:06:44 +0100 To: "Denis B. Roegel" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: how can I view an oversized document? Cc: pdftex@tug.org, roegel@lorraine.loria.fr In-Reply-To: <200012150028.BAA06800@bar.loria.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 01:28 AM 12/15/00 +0100, Denis B. Roegel wrote: > >Hello, > >I want to make a screen version of a poster >and I would like therefore a page format such as 200cm * 30cm. >I have no problem with tex accepting that, but I don't know >how to have acroread display that large page. Is it possible? \definepapersize[poster][width=200cm,height=20cm] \setuppapersize[poster][poster] or in plain tex: \pdfpagewidth=\hsize \pdfpageheight=\vsize >On a related note, how do I include a metapost figure >with plain pdftex? When I try the following > >\input graphicx >\hsize=200cm >\vsize=30cm >\includegraphics{e.1} >\end >>I get add: >(/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/dvips.def)))) [1 >Non-PDF special ignored!{/usr/local/tex/texmf/pdftex/config/psfonts.map}{/usr/l > ... > >Is it normal? just use the low level: \input supp-pdf.tex \convertMPtoPDF{e.1}{1}{1} Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Dec-2000 15:00:27-GMT,1434;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18782 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:00:26 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09433 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:16:33 -0500 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09430 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:16:28 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id PAA18165 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:15:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id PAA24960; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:15:54 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:15:54 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012151415.PAA24960@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftosrc X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Could someone remind me what it is? thanks, Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX 15-Dec-2000 16:46:49-GMT,2468;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21663 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:46:48 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09640 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:03:24 -0500 Received: from zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.3]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09637 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:03:21 -0500 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by zambeze.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id RAA07734 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:02:49 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id RAA29708; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:02:49 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:02:49 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012151602.RAA29708@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftosrc In-Reply-To: <200012151552.QAA29294@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> References: <200012151552.QAA29294@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk i found thanh's message in the archive (stupid me) A question, maybe also stupid: could it be possible to encapsulate any included PDF with such code so that pdftosrc could extract the original PDF? [I know the included PDFs are relatively incomplete...] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From: Han The Thanh Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 21:06:28 +0200 (MET DST) I wrote a small utility called pdftosrc based on xpdf codes to extract a file included in a pdf file. The syntax for including file is the same as suggested by Heiko. Thus one can say: \immediate\pdfobj stream attr {/Type /SourceFile /SourceName (\jobname.zip)} file{\jobname.zip} \pdfcatalog{/SourceObject \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R} to include \jobname.zip or whatever. I would prefer something like \immediate \write 18 {make mysources.tar.bz2} to get maximal compressness. To extract the file that has been included, one then says: pdftosrc file.pdf and that's it. The file is included/extracted in binary mode. 15-Dec-2000 16:49:21-GMT,2371;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21742 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:49:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09658 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:15:29 -0500 Received: from smtp.datagrama.net (smtp.datagrama.net [212.9.64.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09654 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:15:25 -0500 From: alou@mazars.es Received: from JUPITER.GMTR.COM (jupiter.gmtr.com [212.9.67.146]) by smtp.datagrama.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id eBFGFNr21230 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:15:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by JUPITER.GMTR.COM(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 412569B6.00585E50 ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:05:13 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GMTR To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <412569B6.00585DA4.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:05:10 +0100 Subject: Re: pdftosrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi >From Thanh (08/04/2000) >Hi all, > >I wrote a small utility called pdftosrc based on xpdf codes to extract a file >included in a pdf file. The syntax for including file is the same as suggested >by Heiko. Thus one can say: > >\immediate\pdfobj > stream attr {/Type /SourceFile /SourceName (\jobname.zip)} > file{\jobname.zip} >\pdfcatalog{/SourceObject \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R} > >to include \jobname.zip or whatever. I would prefer something like > >\immediate \write 18 {make mysources.tar.bz2} > >to get maximal compressness. > > >To extract the file that has been included, one then says: > >pdftosrc file.pdf > >and that's it. The file is included/extracted in binary mode. > >I added this utility into pdftex sources (rather small, about 80 lines). In >case anyone wants to try it, I can upload the sources (or binaries for >linux/djgpp). > >Thanh Thierry Bouche on 15/12/2000 15.15.54 To: pdftex@tug.org cc: (bcc: Antonio Lou/BCN/Consult/GMTR) Subject: pdftosrc Could someone remind me what it is? thanks, Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX 15-Dec-2000 18:08:00-GMT,2771;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24297 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:07:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09858 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:33:19 -0500 Received: from smtp.datagrama.net (smtp.datagrama.net [212.9.64.8]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09855 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:33:15 -0500 From: alou@mazars.es Received: from JUPITER.GMTR.COM (jupiter.gmtr.com [212.9.67.146]) by smtp.datagrama.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id eBFHXCr23816; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:33:12 +0100 (MET) Received: by JUPITER.GMTR.COM(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 412569B6.005F7EB2 ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:23:03 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GMTR To: pdftex@tug.org, Thierry Bouche Message-ID: <412569B6.005F7CBD.00@JUPITER.GMTR.COM> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:22:58 +0100 Subject: Re: pdftosrc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi again Using hyperef you can do something like (at least under Win32 --- it seems to me that this doesn't work in unix) \href{run:pdftosrc.exe#\jobname.pdf} to extract all the files included in \jobname.pdf. However, it would be nice if the pdftosrc program could be called without any external links. I suppose this can not be done in JavaScript for security reasons... Toni Thierry Bouche on 15/12/2000 17.02.49 To: pdftex@tug.org cc: (bcc: Antonio Lou/BCN/Consult/GMTR) Subject: Re: pdftosrc i found thanh's message in the archive (stupid me) A question, maybe also stupid: could it be possible to encapsulate any included PDF with such code so that pdftosrc could extract the original PDF? [I know the included PDFs are relatively incomplete...] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From: Han The Thanh Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 21:06:28 +0200 (MET DST) I wrote a small utility called pdftosrc based on xpdf codes to extract a file included in a pdf file. The syntax for including file is the same as suggested by Heiko. Thus one can say: \immediate\pdfobj stream attr {/Type /SourceFile /SourceName (\jobname.zip)} file{\jobname.zip} \pdfcatalog{/SourceObject \the\pdflastobj\space 0 R} to include \jobname.zip or whatever. I would prefer something like \immediate \write 18 {make mysources.tar.bz2} to get maximal compressness. To extract the file that has been included, one then says: pdftosrc file.pdf and that's it. The file is included/extracted in binary mode. 15-Dec-2000 21:49:19-GMT,2161;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00649 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:49:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10464 for pdftex-list; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:15:29 -0500 Received: from mail.inka.de (mail@quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10461 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:15:25 -0500 Received: from moebius.inka.de by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.4) id 1472CJ-0004y4-00; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:15:23 +0100 Received: (from skirsch@localhost) by moebius.inka.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id VAA31684 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:59:55 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:59:55 +0100 From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Problems with recent versions -- suggestion for downgrade? Message-ID: <20001215215955.G21263@moebius.inka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.12i X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Priority: 5 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I recently installed the latest pdfTeX version I could find (20001113), and I'm having trouble with a document I'm writing at the moment. 60 pages, lots of math, but only one graphic -- shouldn't be a problem, but pdfTeX segfaults on page 58. (I was able to pinpoint the exact paragraph where it segfaulted -- comment the rest out, and it ran, but add one more word, and it segfaulted again.) I then downgraded to 20000912, but had similar problems -- either pool size problems or segfaults (alternating between LaTeX runs. It's true!) I reinstalled 0.13d from my distribution just now, until I can investigate further. (Which I probably can't soon, since I have *very* little time at the moment.) Has anyone experienced similar problems? Is there any particular version you'd suggest as a stable foundation for an upgrade? -- Yours, Sebastian Kirsch MCSE: Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert 19-Dec-2000 21:22:47-GMT,1901;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29287 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:22:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20185 for pdftex-list; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:36:33 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20182 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:36:28 -0500 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 148TUQ-0007iM-00; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:36:02 +0000 Received: from max55.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.55] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 148TUP-0002cv-00; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:36:02 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14910.41549.652556.269724@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:48:29 +0000 To: derek.price@openavenue.com cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Derek R. Price" ] In-Reply-To: <200012181712.MAA17240@tug.org> References: <200012181712.MAA17240@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk owner-pdftex@tug.org writes: > > Assuming I have a texinfo.tex & a pdftexinfo.tex, both in '.', is there > some command that will allow 'texi2dvi foo.texi' and 'texi2dvi --pdf > foo.texi' to each find the appropriate texinfo.tex? > surely the simpler answer is to put pdftexinfo.tex into the texmf/pdftex tree, and call it texinfo.tex? sebastian 19-Dec-2000 21:56:50-GMT,3659;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00113 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:56:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20278 for pdftex-list; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:24:06 -0500 Received: from mail.openave.com (216.200.203.33.openave.com [216.200.203.33] (may be forged)) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20275 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:24:02 -0500 Received: from openavenue.com (adsl-63-205-189-231.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.205.189.231]) by mail.openave.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-61060U3000L300S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:23:56 -0800 Message-ID: <3A3FD1DC.C3205CBF@openavenue.com> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:23:40 -0500 From: "Derek R. Price" Organization: Open Avenue X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: pdftex@tug.org, automake@gnu.org Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Derek R. Price" ] References: <200012181712.MAA17240@tug.org> <14910.41549.652556.269724@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > owner-pdftex@tug.org writes: > > > > Assuming I have a texinfo.tex & a pdftexinfo.tex, both in '.', is there > > some command that will allow 'texi2dvi foo.texi' and 'texi2dvi --pdf > > foo.texi' to each find the appropriate texinfo.tex? > > > > surely the simpler answer is to put pdftexinfo.tex into the > texmf/pdftex tree, and call it texinfo.tex? Actually, yeah, and that was my solution, but I was trying to help out the Automake folks who got me into this mess in the first place. :) Basically, the issue is that the GNU coding standards state that the texinfo.tex you built your docs with should be included with a source distribution so that an end user is sure to be able to build your docs too. So Automake attempts to force this issue and copy its texinfo.tex into any directory where docs are built unless it is overridden. Unfortunately, if you are attempting to build both PDFs and other types of output in the same directory from the same source files, this would disable either the building of PDFs or it would disable everything else. Anyway, I was hoping for a solution compatible with the current GNU coding standard short of putting pdftexinfo.tex & texinfo.tex in different directories and overriding the TEXINPUTS path dependent on the target or barbarically renaming the files before calling texi2dvi. Aesthetically, I think coding the filename switch inside the *texi source file would be most pleasing, as the Makefile structure never has to distinguish between targets except to supply the --pdf switch, and being able to specify a complete path to a *texinfo.tex on the command line would be second best since it would avoid the forced creation of extra directories. Of course, a local structure mirroring the texmf tree structure which allowed KPATHSEA to do most of the work without changes might be the most elegant. Is any of this possible? Derek -- Derek Price CVS Solutions Architect ( http://CVSHome.org ) mailto:dprice@openavenue.com OpenAvenue ( http://OpenAvenue.com ) -- Conscious is what you are aware of and conscience is what you wish you weren't. 20-Dec-2000 1:25:50-GMT,3084;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04992 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:25:48 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20543 for pdftex-list; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:24:56 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20540 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:24:52 -0500 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 148X3m-0004FT-00; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:24:46 +0000 Received: from max38.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.38] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 148X3l-00039V-00; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:24:45 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14911.63478.724599.917596@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:06:14 +0000 To: derek.price@openavenue.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org, automake@gnu.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Derek R. Price" ] In-Reply-To: <3A3FD1DC.C3205CBF@openavenue.com> References: <200012181712.MAA17240@tug.org> <14910.41549.652556.269724@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <3A3FD1DC.C3205CBF@openavenue.com> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Derek R. Price writes: > Basically, the issue is that the GNU coding standards state that the > texinfo.tex you built your docs with should be included with a source > distribution so that an end user is sure to be able to build your docs too. you could try telling the automake people to get real.. oh dear they are cc-ed..... :-} > barbarically renaming the files before calling texi2dvi. > Aesthetically, I think coding the filename switch inside the *texi > source file would be most pleasing sure, you can test the existence of the macro \pdfoutput in the source, and \input a different file depending on whether or not \pdfoutput exists > switch, and being able to specify a complete path to a *texinfo.tex > on the command line would be second best since it would avoid the > forced creation of extra directories. you could do that too tex '\def\FOO{whatever/path}\input thisfile' where thisfile.tex uses \FOO > Of course, a local structure mirroring the texmf tree structure > which allowed KPATHSEA to do most of the work without changes might > be the most elegant. yes, that would be possible too, redefining TEXMFLOCAL for the duration > Is any of this possible? all of it. even better, forget the gnu coding standards while they persist with something as horrible as texinfo......:-} was that enough smilies to make sure Richard Stallman still sends me a christmas card? sebastian 20-Dec-2000 11:22:54-GMT,1948;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16302 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:22:53 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA21654 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 05:03:35 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21651 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 05:03:26 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16686; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:03:13 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12373; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:03:11 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200012201003.LAA12373@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Derek R. Price" ] In-Reply-To: <14910.41549.652556.269724@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> from Sebastian Rahtz at "Dec 18, 0 11:48:29 pm" To: sebastian.rahtz@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:03:11 +0100 (MET) Cc: derek.price@openavenue.com, pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > Assuming I have a texinfo.tex & a pdftexinfo.tex, both in '.', is there > > some command that will allow 'texi2dvi foo.texi' and 'texi2dvi --pdf > > foo.texi' to each find the appropriate texinfo.tex? > > > > surely the simpler answer is to put pdftexinfo.tex into the > texmf/pdftex tree, and call it texinfo.tex? I think texinfo.tex has support for pdftex already. I have only one version of texinfo.tex for both tex & pdftex (downloaded from gnu site). Thanh 20-Dec-2000 18:52:24-GMT,1612;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26186 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:52:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01196 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:08:04 -0500 Received: from clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (root@clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de [134.96.187.26]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01193 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:08:02 -0500 Received: from dfki.de (acc-223 [134.96.188.223]) by clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25261; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:08:00 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A40F5AB.2B7013B2@dfki.de> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:08:43 +0100 From: Berthold Crysmann Organization: DFKI GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, de, fr, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Cropping odd and even pages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I wonder whether it is possible to have odd and even pages cropped differently. What I have in mind is a PDF document which has different margins for odd and even pages (like with book.cls), but on screen, they are always cropped to the text area. So the pages do not "jump" in acroread. Is there a solution for this, preferabnly in hyperref???? Thanks, Berthold -- Berthold Crysmann Deutsches Forschungszentrum Kuenstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3 D-66123 Saarbrücken 20-Dec-2000 19:41:29-GMT,1902;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27476 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:41:28 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01279 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:06:34 -0500 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01276 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:06:32 -0500 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 148oYX-0005Zy-00; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:05:41 +0000 Received: from max26.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.26] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 148oYW-0000WH-00; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:05:41 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14913.1224.398057.528580@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:13:12 +0000 To: crysmann@dfki.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Cropping odd and even pages In-Reply-To: <3A40F5AB.2B7013B2@dfki.de> References: <3A40F5AB.2B7013B2@dfki.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Berthold Crysmann writes: > I wonder whether it is possible to have odd and even pages cropped > differently. What I have in mind is a PDF document which has different > margins for odd and even pages (like with book.cls), but on screen, they > are always cropped to the text area. So the pages do not "jump" in > acroread. you could set the PDF view to be always "set to width", does that help? you can do that in hyperref. sebastian 20-Dec-2000 22:04:00-GMT,2610;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00864 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:03:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01443 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:28:30 -0500 Received: from mail.openave.com (216.200.203.33.openave.com [216.200.203.33] (may be forged)) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01440 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:28:28 -0500 Received: from openavenue.com ([63.196.30.71]) by mail.openave.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-61060U3000L300S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:28:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3A412474.C8DFE9FC@openavenue.com> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:28:20 -0500 From: "Derek R. Price" Organization: Open Avenue X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raja R Harinath CC: Sebastian Rahtz , pdftex@tug.org, automake@gnu.org, Han The Thanh Subject: Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from ["Derek R. Price" ] References: <200012181712.MAA17240@tug.org> <14910.41549.652556.269724@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <3A3FD1DC.C3205CBF@openavenue.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Raja R Harinath wrote: > > directory from the same source files, this would disable either the building > > of PDFs or it would disable everything else. > > Actually, new versions of texinfo.tex from ftp.gnu.org seem to not > need a special pdftexinfo.tex. Yep. That seems to have done the trick as far as I'm concerned. *.info, *.ps, and *.pdf all build and pass cursory inspection, anyhow. Of course, now my users can miss upgrades to the distributed version of texinfo.tex and possibly useful changes in their tex distribution's operation, but I guess I can confine that argument to the Automake folks and Richard Stallman for awhile. :) Derek -- Derek Price CVS Solutions Architect ( http://CVSHome.org ) mailto:dprice@openavenue.com OpenAvenue ( http://OpenAvenue.com ) -- All work and no play makes Bart a dull boy. All work and no play makes Bart a dull boy. All work and no play makes Bart a dull boy... - Bart Simpson on chalkboard, _The Simpsons_ 20-Dec-2000 23:12:58-GMT,1531;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02582 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:12:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01493 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:09:26 -0500 Received: from taba.icmc.sc.usp.br (taba.icmc.sc.usp.br [143.107.231.12]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01490 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:09:21 -0500 Received: from xapacura.sc.usp.br (xapacura [143.107.231.7]) by taba.icmc.sc.usp.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03654 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 20:08:06 -0200 (EDT) From: Willie Dresler Leiva Received: (from wdl@localhost) by xapacura.sc.usp.br (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id UAA09083 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 20:07:17 -0200 (EDT) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 20:07:17 -0200 (EDT) Message-Id: <200012202207.UAA09083@xapacura.sc.usp.br> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Cropping odd and even pages Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >you could set the PDF view to be always "set to width", does that >help? you can do that in hyperref. To achieve such an effect, I use the following commands in the preamble: \usepackage{calc} %% necessary because of the \hypercalcbp command \usepackage{hyperref} %% put any parameters you need \hypersetup{pdfstartview={FitBH \hypercalcbp{\paperheight - \topmargin - 1in}}} I hope that these lines help. Willie 21-Dec-2000 1:43:15-GMT,2596;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05778 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:43:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01616 for pdftex-list; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:43:34 -0500 Received: from wired.wvcomm.com (IDENT:root@[63.105.104.66]) by tug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01613 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:43:32 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (charles.wirelessvalley.local [192.168.1.4]) by wired.wvcomm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20059 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:43:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:43:30 -0500 From: Charles Lepple To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Cropping odd and even pages Message-ID: <2383834193.977341410@[192.168.1.4]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.5 (Win32 Demo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk --On Wednesday, December 20, 2000 7:13 PM +0000 Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Berthold Crysmann writes: > > I wonder whether it is possible to have odd and even pages cropped > > differently. What I have in mind is a PDF document which has different > > margins for odd and even pages (like with book.cls), but on screen, > they > are always cropped to the text area. So the pages do not "jump" in > > acroread. > > you could set the PDF view to be always "set to width", does that > help? you can do that in hyperref. the full command would most likely be: \hypersetup{pdfstartview=FitBH} This helps, but what would be really handy is support for Articles in pdfLaTeX. I remember seeing this in one of the pdfTeX guides, but it seemed to be just raw TeX code, and I remember not having much success with trying to make it work in a LaTeX document. Suggestions, anyone? (For those not familiar with the term in the context of PDF, you can define an article as a collection of text boxes ("beads") in natural reading order. This way, a two-column document could have one bead for each column, and after reading the first column, the viewer automatically jumps to the second column.) -- Charles Lepple Wireless Valley Communications, Inc. http://www.wirelessvalley.com/ -- Charles Lepple Wireless Valley Communications, Inc. http://www.wirelessvalley.com/ 1-Jan-2001 6:37:58-GMT,2465;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29363 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2000 23:37:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f016O1I11343; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 07:24:01 +0100 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f016NhI11337 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 07:23:56 +0100 Received: from lasaigne.loria.fr (lasaigne.loria.fr [152.81.2.101]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3/JCG-DG) with ESMTP id HAA28522; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 07:23:55 +0100 (MET) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by lasaigne.loria.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3-client/JCG) id HAA13877; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 07:23:55 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200101010623.HAA13877@lasaigne.loria.fr> To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: roegel@lorraine.loria.fr Subject: [pdftex] TeX/MetaPost poster of the U.S. elections in Florida Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 07:23:55 +0100 (MET) (Please apologize for posting here; it's slightly related with pdf and pdflatex though.) Hello and Happy New Millenium! I have recently used TeX & MetaPost to make a large poster clarifying the lawsuits in the recent U.S. elections in Florida. You can find it at: http://www.loria.fr/~roegel/uselection2000/ There are three versions of the poster. The first two have been made with the `poster' package of Tim Van Zandt, and the last one was merely produced with pdflatex, after changing the pdf dimensions to suitable values. The figure itself is rather elementary metapost code (boxes and lines). Enjoy! Denis Roegel _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-Jan-2001 0:01:38-GMT,2917;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16428 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:01:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f01Nw0I14462; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:58:00 +0100 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f01Nv3I14456 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:57:03 +0100 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 14DEpF-0006Yx-00; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 23:57:13 +0000 Received: from max28.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.28] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14DEpG-000210-00; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:57:15 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14929.3659.269430.550594@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: charles@wirelessvalley.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Cropping odd and even pages In-Reply-To: <2383834193.977341410@[192.168.1.4]> References: <2383834193.977341410@[192.168.1.4]> Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:10:03 +0000 Charles Lepple writes: > This helps, but what would be really handy is support for Articles in > pdfLaTeX. I remember seeing this in one of the pdfTeX guides, but it seemed > to be just raw TeX code, and I remember not having much success with trying > to make it work in a LaTeX document. Suggestions, anyone? > > (For those not familiar with the term in the context of PDF, you can define > an article as a collection of text boxes ("beads") in natural reading > order I thought about supporting this years ago when I was starting hyperref. But then I realized that I had never ever used the feature in a PDF document, and lost interest in the concept. I always felt it was one of Adobe's sillier ideas :-} Sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-Jan-2001 15:37:22-GMT,2810;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02285 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:37:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f02FX1I18038; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:33:02 +0100 Received: from gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.136.103]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f02FW3I18032 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:32:03 +0100 Received: from liszt.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (liszt.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.128.23]) by gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (8.9.1/8.9.1/TechFak/pk+ro20000427) with ESMTP id QAA25827 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:32:15 +0100 (MET) Received: by liszt.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (8.8.8/pk19971205+fulldom) id QAA23564; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:32:14 +0100 (MET) To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Steffen Neumann Message-ID: Lines: 34 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.44/Emacs 19.34 Subject: [pdftex] Acrobat Controls in FullScreen mode Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 02 Jan 2001 16:32:14 +0100 Hi, I hope this is not too far off-Topic, but I hope to reach some Acrobat Wizards on the list... We are using pdflatex for quite some while now, and things work extremely fine. But: we lack decent Navigation in Acrobat Full-Screen mode. In the normal mode you'd get a useful menue thruogh the right mouse button, but that seems disabled in Full-Screen mode. => Is there any way to get a menu in Full-Screen mode ? The keyboard is not an option, since our presentations are done using a cordless mouse with a few meters distance to the laptop. We'd also like to avoid the on-screen navigation as in e.g. pdfscreen.sty since it takes screen space and leaving the normal (linear) mode should be an exception. We use pdftex 0.13d and acroread 4.05 on SuSE Linux 7.0 Yours, Steffen _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-Jan-2001 17:55:25-GMT,3362;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06174 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:55:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f02Hq0I18713; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:52:00 +0100 Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f02HppI18707 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:51:51 +0100 Received: from laptop-1 ([195.121.140.241]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id G6JQYP03.3AT; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:52:01 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010102184012.0150e850@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: "Sebastian Rahtz" From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Cropping odd and even pages Cc: charles@wirelessvalley.com, pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 18:40:12 +0100 At 11:10 PM 1/1/01 +0000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: >Charles Lepple writes: > > This helps, but what would be really handy is support for Articles in > > pdfLaTeX. I remember seeing this in one of the pdfTeX guides, but it seemed > > to be just raw TeX code, and I remember not having much success with trying > > to make it work in a LaTeX document. Suggestions, anyone? > > > > (For those not familiar with the term in the context of PDF, you can define > > an article as a collection of text boxes ("beads") in natural reading > > order > >I thought about supporting this years ago when I was starting >hyperref. But then I realized that I had never ever used the feature >in a PDF document, and lost interest in the concept. I always felt it >was one of Adobe's sillier ideas :-} Indeed silly. Probably a hack for prepress users who want to view newspapers on screen. I played with it a bit because i though tthat i could use it for other purposes, but there is a lack of control over this mechanism [some aspects are undefined and left to the viewer, esp scaling and offsets, which makes it kind of useless]. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 2-Jan-2001 1:03:35-GMT,2148;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16234 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:03:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f03111I20311; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:01:01 +0100 Received: from strider.tfsd.sk.ca ([207.195.99.194]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0310dI20303 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 02:00:40 +0100 Received: from upstairs.tfsd.sk.ca (hsregn3-50.sk.sympatico.ca [142.165.130.50]) by strider.tfsd.sk.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19905 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:43:29 -0600 Message-Id: <4.3.1.20010102185152.00ac5ee0@mail.tfsd.sk.ca> X-Sender: richl@mail.tfsd.sk.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Les Richardson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [pdftex] BookMarksOpen? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 18:56:37 -0600 Hi All, I can't seem to get "bookmarksopen" to work at all. Are there any prerequsites in order for this to function? These are set via hyperref and I use pdflatex. I have set: pdfpagemode=UseOutlines bookmarks I have also set: (although it doesn't seem to make any difference) pdfview=FitBV Any ideas? Les Richardson H. Hardcastle School Edam, Sk. Canada _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-Jan-2001 13:15:09-GMT,2958;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29421 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 06:15:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f03DD1I23114; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:13:01 +0100 Received: from mail.bremen.pop.de (mars.hamburg.pop.de [195.222.210.104]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f03DCII23108 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:12:18 +0100 Received: from uucp by mail.bremen.pop.de with local-rmail (Exim 2.02 #2) id 14Dnot-0001i4-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:19:11 +0100 Received: from artcom8.UUCP (uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA29727 for tug.org!pdftex; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:08:10 +0100 (MET) Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m14Dndn-004wwRC; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:07:43 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= To: PDF-TeX mailing list Message-ID: <20010103140743.A652@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: PDF-TeX mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Strasse 8, D-28359 Bremen X-Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and not necessarily that of my employers. Subject: [pdftex] /pdfinfo {/Producer (foo)} not working Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:07:43 +0100 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, when the attached file is run through pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525 (Web2C 7.3.1), the /Producer key in /pdfinfo is ignored. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2001/ --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/x-tex Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="info.tex" \pdfcompresslevel=0 \documentclass{article} \pdfinfo{/Title (Title) /Creator (Creator) /Producer (Producer) /Author (Author) /Subject (Subject) /Keywords (Keywords)} \begin{document} bar \end{document} --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 1-Jan-2001 14:59:32-GMT,3756;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01359 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 07:59:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f03Eu0I23591; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:56:00 +0100 Received: from axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.34.3]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f03Et1I23581 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:55:01 +0100 Received: from pcried13 (pcried13.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.32.229]) by axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA09926 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:55:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010103160055.009604f0@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de> X-Sender: repp@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) To: pdftex@tug.org From: Jascha Repp Subject: [pdftex] Destination of links within one document Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f03Et1I23581 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:00:55 +0000 Hi, I recently used pdftex and I like it very much. But I have had a problem with the destination points of links within one document, which I think is a general problem and I wonder how others think about that: The destination point is set by the command \pdfdest to the bottom of the current line of text. So if I refer to this destination point the left upper corner of the Acrobat Reader window is set to exactly this point in the document. (This is the case if the Acrobat Reader Window is a lot smaller than one page, otherwise the whole page can be seen). This seems to be correct so far but it has a problem: The line of text, which I refer to, is then NOT to be read, because it is exactly ABOVE the visible section of the text. So I would have to set the destination point one or two lines BEFORE the line, which I want to refer to. This is not a very nice solution, because one does not know where the lines will end and in some cases it is even not possible, for instance if I want to make a link to the beginning of a chapter. So I found another solution, which is to put the \pdfdest command into a \put command within the picture enviroment. This enables me to add an arbitrary y-offset to the destination point. Did anybody had this problem? Is there any nicer solution to this problem? Is this problem already known to the programmers and solved in the next version of pdftex? Thank you in advance. Jascha ******************************************************************* Jascha Repp Institut für Experimentalphysik Ag Rieder Freie Universität Berlin Arnimallee 14 14195 Berlin (Germany) Tel. +49 (0)30 838 56465/56039 Fax +49 (0)30 831 1355 e-mail: repp@physik.fu-berlin.de ******************************************************************* _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 4-Jan-2001 10:31:36-GMT,4528;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA26511 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 03:31:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f04AR0I28227; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:27:01 +0100 Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f04AQJI28221 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:26:19 +0100 Received: from laptop-1 (s340-isdn1588.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.52]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06488; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:26:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010104091031.009119a0@pop.wxs.nl> X-Sender: pragma@pop.wxs.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Jascha Repp From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] Destination of links within one document Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010103160055.009604f0@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 09:10:31 +0100 At 04:00 PM 1/3/01 +0000, Jascha Repp wrote: >Hi, > >I recently used pdftex and I like it very much. But I have had a problem >with the destination points of links within one document, which I think is >a general problem and I wonder how others think about that: > >The destination point is set by the command \pdfdest to the bottom of the >current line of text. So if I refer to this destination point the left >upper corner of the Acrobat Reader window is set to exactly this point in >the document. (This is the case if the Acrobat Reader Window is a lot >smaller than one page, otherwise the whole page can be seen). >This seems to be correct so far but it has a problem: The line of text, >which I refer to, is then NOT to be read, because it is exactly ABOVE the >visible section of the text. >So I would have to set the destination point one or two lines BEFORE the >line, which I want to refer to. This is not a very nice solution, because >one does not know where the lines will end and in some cases it is even not >possible, for instance if I want to make a link to the beginning of a >chapter. >So I found another solution, which is to put the \pdfdest command into a >\put command within the picture enviroment. This enables me to add an >arbitrary y-offset to the destination point. > >Did anybody had this problem? >Is there any nicer solution to this problem? >Is this problem already known to the programmers and solved in the next >version of pdftex? This is definitely not something that should be handled in the pdftex core, since it is viewer specific. Also, by using shifts like you do, you already have control, and you can easilly overload \pdfdest to be displaced in a systematic way. Hoewver, an automatism will fail in cases where lines end up on unpredicted places [and who knows where tex will break the paragraph]. Also, since in pdf annotations have their own layer, and are implemented to be independent of the text stream [which is not per se a good idea, since thereby it is ignorant of scaling and rotation etc] the current pdftex approach is probably the best. Keep in mind that there are quite some 'is left to the viewer' things in the pdf specs. The recently discussed threads are a good example of this. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Jan-2001 21:30:37-GMT,3125;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12004 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:30:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f05LR1I05044; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:27:01 +0100 Received: from dnsman.oce.orst.edu (dnsman.OCE.ORST.EDU [128.193.64.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f05LQMI05036 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:26:23 +0100 Received: from galiano (galiano.OCE.ORST.EDU [128.193.64.160]) by dnsman.oce.orst.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA01824 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:26:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Jody M. Klymak" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Subject: [pdftex] Hyperref and resetting counters... Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:29:18 -0800 Hi, I appologize if this isn't really appropriate for the pdftex list, but I figure this is the best group of hyperref users.... I want two figures to have the same figure number w/o subnumbering, so I simply decrease the figure counter: \begin{figure*}[htbp] \begin{center} \includegraphics{fig1} \end{center} \caption{Blah blah blah} \label{fig:fig21} \end{figure*} \addtocounter{figure}{-1} \begin{figure*}[htbp] \begin{center} \includegraphics{fig2} \end{center} \caption{Continued.} \label{fig:fig2} \end{figure*} This works great but hyperref gets upset: ERROR: pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier (name{figure.5}) --- TeX said --- has been already used, duplicate ignored \endgroup l.619 \clearpage <./fig2.jpg>] [9 --- HELP --- No help available This error is unfortunate, because the document typesets perfectly, and the hyper references work fine. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a better way to get what I want (I know about subfloat, but I don't want the figures named fig. 1a, 1b etc because each figure has six frames already called fig. 1a-1l.) Thanks, Jody _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Jan-2001 23:36:28-GMT,4064;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15448 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:36:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f05NZ1I05598; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 00:35:01 +0100 Received: from stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com [12.13.247.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f05NYCI05590 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 00:34:12 +0100 Received: from stl-av-02.boeing.com ([192.76.190.7]) by stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (8.9.2/8.8.5-M2) with ESMTP id RAA01331 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:34:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from stl-hub-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-02.boeing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA07085 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:34:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from xch-pssbh-03.ca.boeing.com by stl-hub-01.boeing.com with ESMTP; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:34:19 -0600 Received: by xch-pssbh-03.ca.boeing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:34:18 -0800 Message-Id: <47A8359928094345874C94095F80C4439A5513@xch-rtn-02> From: "Wilson, Peter R" To: pdftex@tug.org, "'Jody M. Klymak'" Subject: RE: [pdftex] Hyperref and resetting counters... MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:34:23 -0800 I don't know if it will help but you could try the ccaption (note the double c) package from CTAN as it lets you have continuation captions which seems to be what you are after. I don't know how/if it works with hyperref. Peter W. > ---------- > From: Jody M. Klymak[SMTP:jklymak@oce.orst.edu] > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:29 PM > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: [pdftex] Hyperref and resetting counters... > > > Hi, > > I appologize if this isn't really appropriate for the pdftex list, but I > figure this is the best group of hyperref users.... > > I want two figures to have the same figure number w/o subnumbering, so I > simply decrease the figure counter: > > \begin{figure*}[htbp] > \begin{center} > \includegraphics{fig1} > \end{center} > \caption{Blah blah blah} > \label{fig:fig21} > \end{figure*} > > \addtocounter{figure}{-1} > > \begin{figure*}[htbp] > \begin{center} > \includegraphics{fig2} > \end{center} > \caption{Continued.} > \label{fig:fig2} > \end{figure*} > > This works great but hyperref gets upset: > > ERROR: pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier > (name{figure.5}) > --- TeX said --- > has been already used, duplicate ignored > \endgroup l.619 \clearpage <./fig2.jpg>] [9 --- HELP --- > No help available > > This error is unfortunate, because the document typesets perfectly, and the > hyper references work fine. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a better > way to get what I want (I know about subfloat, but I don't want the figures > named fig. 1a, 1b etc because each figure has six frames already called fig. > 1a-1l.) > > Thanks, Jody > > > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 5-Jan-2001 23:48:28-GMT,3000;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15716 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:48:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f05Nl1I05652; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 00:47:01 +0100 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f05NkJI05646 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 00:46:19 +0100 Received: from remote142-173.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.173] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14EgZ0-0005R1-00; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 00:46:26 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010106004440.47d795ac@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: "Jody M. Klymak" , From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Hyperref and resetting counters... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 00:44:40 +0100 At 13:29 05.01.2001 -0800, Jody M. Klymak wrote: > >I want two figures to have the same figure number w/o subnumbering, so I >simply decrease the figure counter: > >\begin{figure*}[htbp] > \begin{center} > \includegraphics{fig1} > \end{center} > \caption{Blah blah blah} >\label{fig:fig21} >\end{figure*} > >\addtocounter{figure}{-1} > >\begin{figure*}[htbp] > \begin{center} > \includegraphics{fig2} > \end{center} > \caption{Continued.} >\label{fig:fig2} >\end{figure*} >ERROR: pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier >(name{figure.5}) hyperref uses "\theHfigure" for building the destination name for figures. So you can locally rename the value it for the second figure with the same number: \begin{figure} \caption{hello} \end{figure} \addtocounter{figure}{-1} \begin{figure} \renewcommand{\theHfigure}{cont.\arabic{figure}}% \end{figure} Yours sincerely Heiko PS: If you want to avoid the extra vertical space, introduced by the center environment, you can use \centering instead. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 6-Jan-2001 23:30:08-GMT,5718;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11911 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2001 16:30:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f06NA1I10498; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 00:10:01 +0100 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f06N9eI10488 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 00:09:40 +0100 Received: from remote142-148.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.148] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14F2T6-0005uK-00; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 00:09:48 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010106220440.09ffaa18@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [pdftex] epstopdf on the fly with graphics package Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 22:04:40 +0100 Hello, the graphic{s,x} package knows the feature that a command can be used in the fourth argument of \DeclareGraphicsRule. The command is passed to dvips that then calls it to get a image in a format understandable by dvips, eg: \DeclareGraphicsRule{ps.gz}{eps}{ps.bb}{`gunzip #1} I have not seen, that this works with pdfTeX or that a similar solution exists. But this is possible, because pdfTeX does know the \write18 feature. Therefore I have written a patch to get the \DeclareGraphicsRule syntax work and have put the stuff for testing in a package to be loaded after graphic{s,x}. Comments are welcome. It is possible to detect within TeX, whether the \write18 is enabled? (If so, an understandable warning could be written, if \write18 is disabled.) Best regards Heiko %%% cut %%% epstopdf.sty %%% cut %%% % File: epstopdf.sty % Version: 2001/01/06 v1.0 % Author: Heiko Oberdiek % Email: % % Copyright: Copyright (C) 2001 Heiko Oberdiek. % % This program may be distributed and/or modified under % the conditions of the LaTeX Project Public License, % either version 1.2 of this license or (at your option) % any later version. 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Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:44:18 +0100 Dear all, I am mailing this to a couple of mailing lists + newsgroup, since I am not sure which one is the most appropiate. I am trying to LaTex a paper, some of whose pages I would like to have in landscape orientation. Also, I would like to have a .pdf output (possibly, by pdflatex) I have tried the package landscape (within the graphics bundle). This is what I got: -- Yap doesn't seem to be able to display landscape mode (is this a general issue with .dvi output?) -- if I use dvips, the .ps output displays landscape mode. However, when pdfwrite to a .pdf output, the latter is poor. (why?) -- if I go directly from .tex to .pdf by pdflatex, .pdf output doesn't display landscape mode. -- also, are there alternative to the landscape package? I am on win98 + MikTex (+WinEdt). My file preamble is: \documentclass[leqno]{article} \usepackage[active]{srcltx} \usepackage[dvips]{epsfig} \usepackage[english,italian]{babel} \selectlanguage{italian} \usepackage{graphics} \usepackage{lscape} ---- Any help is truly welcome and appreciate. Thanks mario _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 7-Jan-2001 16:16:16-GMT,2435;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29343 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:16:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f07GF1I19001; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:15:01 +0100 Received: from interzone.ucc.ie (interzone.ucc.ie [143.239.1.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f07GElI18993 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:14:47 +0100 Received: from swift.ucc.ie (swift.ucc.ie [143.239.211.48]) by interzone.ucc.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18554; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:15:07 GMT Received: (from dongen@localhost) by swift.ucc.ie (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA15610; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:14:33 GMT From: Marc van Dongen To: chiari mario Cc: pdftex@tug.org, winedt+list@wsg.net Subject: Re: [pdftex] landscape package- problems!!! Message-ID: <20010107161433.V6997@cs.ucc.ie> References: <3.0.5.32.20010107144418.008537c0@mbox.flashnet.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010107144418.008537c0@mbox.flashnet.it>; from chiari.hm@flashnet.it on Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:44:18PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:14:33 +0000 chiari mario (chiari.hm@flashnet.it) wrote: [landscape] : -- also, are there alternative to the landscape package? \documentclass[landscape]{article} ? Regards, Marc van Dongen -- Marc van Dongen, CS Dept | phone: +353 21 4903578 University College Cork, NUIC | Fax: +353 21 4903113 College Road, Cork, Ireland | Email: dongen@cs.ucc.ie _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-Jan-2001 10:01:47-GMT,4033;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19457 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 03:01:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f08A02I22602; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:00:02 +0100 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f089xdI22592 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:59:39 +0100 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14FZ5g-0007x5-00; Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:59:48 +0000 To: chiari mario cc: pdftex@tug.org, winedt+list@wsg.net Subject: Re: [pdftex] landscape package- problems!!! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:44:18 +0100." <3.0.5.32.20010107144418.008537c0@mbox.flashnet.it> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:59:47 +0000 > I am mailing this to a couple of mailing lists + newsgroup, since I am not > sure which one is the most appropiate. comp.text.tex is probably best. > I am trying to LaTex a paper, some of whose pages I would like to have in > landscape orientation. Also, I would like to have a .pdf output (possibly, > by pdflatex) > > I have tried the package landscape (within the graphics bundle). This is > what I got: > > -- Yap doesn't seem to be able to display landscape mode > (is this a general issue with .dvi output?) it's a general property of yap (though aiui a rotating version is in development: will presumably require nt4 or w2k, like all the other rotating windoze previewers) > -- if I use dvips, the .ps output displays landscape mode. However, when > pdfwrite to a .pdf output, the latter is poor. (why?) because pdfwrite is feeble (you need a ghostscript >=6.0), or because you're not using type 1 fonts in dvips (specify -Ppdf to dvips), unless you're using times fonts. > -- if I go directly from .tex to .pdf by pdflatex, .pdf output doesn't > display landscape mode. you don't say which version of pdftex you're using, but... > -- also, are there alternative to the landscape package? > > I am on win98 + MikTex (+WinEdt). > > My file preamble is: > > \documentclass[leqno]{article} > \usepackage[active]{srcltx} > \usepackage[dvips]{epsfig} [1] > \usepackage[english,italian]{babel} > \selectlanguage{italian} > \usepackage{graphics} [2] > \usepackage{lscape} [3] ... you've forced the graphics package to be loaded with dvips option (at [1]). when you load it again (at [2] and [3]) it takes you at your word and doesn't try loading another driver. if your graphics package is moderately up-to-date, it comes with a graphics.cfg will detect that whether you're running under pdftex and use the dvips or pdftex as appropriate. so if it works at all without it, don't use the [dvips] option. but you don't tell us which version of the graphics package you're using either. whatever, it works for me (pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525, graphics 1999/02/16 v1.0l), and no driver specified. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-Jan-2001 10:09:09-GMT,2195;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19600 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 03:09:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f08A80I22655; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:08:00 +0100 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f08A14I22616 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:01:04 +0100 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14FZ72-0007xy-00; Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:01:12 +0000 To: Marc van Dongen cc: chiari mario , pdftex@tug.org, winedt+list@wsg.net Subject: Re: [pdftex] landscape package- problems!!! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:14:33 GMT." <20010107161433.V6997@cs.ucc.ie> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:01:12 +0000 > chiari mario (chiari.hm@flashnet.it) wrote: > > [landscape] > : -- also, are there alternative to the landscape package? > > \documentclass[landscape]{article} ? that merely changes page dimensions; it does nothing about the page orientation. the lscape package allows one to switch between landscape and portrait, too. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 8-Jan-2001 11:36:17-GMT,3515;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21107 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 04:36:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f08BZ1I23033; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:35:01 +0100 Received: from inet-smtp4.oracle.com (inet-smtp4.oracle.com [209.246.15.58]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f08BYUI23024 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:34:30 +0100 Received: from gmgw01.oraclecorp.com (gmgw01.us.oracle.com [130.35.61.190]) by inet-smtp4.oracle.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA08068 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 03:34:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from Oracle.com (rasppp50.de.oracle.com [140.84.7.119]) by gmgw01.oraclecorp.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29751 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 03:34:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A59A606.7E4EA8FB@Oracle.com> From: Astrid Heinicke Organization: Oracle Deutschland GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4B79D30F1B9D6F0041F14737" Subject: [pdftex] font: Arial Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 12:35:34 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4B79D30F1B9D6F0041F14737 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Happy new year to you all! 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Dr. Astrid Heinicke end:vcard --------------4B79D30F1B9D6F0041F14737-- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Jan-2001 11:49:24-GMT,2300;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA26613 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 04:49:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f09Bk1I29234; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:46:01 +0100 Received: from host.iinte.edu.pl (host.iinte.edu.pl [157.25.178.27]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f09BjiI29228 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:45:44 +0100 Received: from stas ([157.25.180.229]) by host.iinte.edu.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13775; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:25:18 +0100 Message-ID: <00eb01c07a31$2bcfd1c0$e5b4199d@iinte.edu.pl> From: "Stanislaw Romanski" To: , "Les Richardson" References: <4.3.1.20010102185152.00ac5ee0@mail.tfsd.sk.ca> Subject: Re: [pdftex] BookMarksOpen? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:41:55 +0100 > I have set: > pdfpagemode=UseOutlines > bookmarks > > Any ideas? > > Les Richardson > H. Hardcastle School > Edam, Sk. Canada >________________________________________ In pdfTeX ( not pdfLaTeX) I use \pdfcatalog{/pagemode /UseOutlines} and it works. Stanislaw Romanski Institute for Scientific, Technical and Economic Information romanski@iinte.edu.pl _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Jan-2001 13:08:27-GMT,2269;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28026 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 06:08:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f09D61I29537; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:06:01 +0100 Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.70] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f09D5CI29531 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:05:12 +0100 Received: from A5622.pppool.de (213.6.86.34) by mail.epost.de (5.1.057) id 3A4B132A0008EAF8 for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:04:31 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6521779781.20010109140519@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Combining varioref and hyperref Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:05:19 +0100 Hi, Can anybody tell me how to combine varioref and hyperref? In my thesis I want to have the literature references sorted by number and collected, if possible. Examples: With LaTeX and varioref I get something like "Details can be found in [7,13,31-33]." This is what I want. But with pdfLaTeX, varioref and hyperref I get: "Details can be found in [31,32,13,33,7]." So the references are neigher sorted nor collected. Has anybody any idea? Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 9-Jan-2001 13:14:23-GMT,3180;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28142 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 06:14:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f09DC1I29583; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:12:01 +0100 Received: from dsgt.demon.co.uk (dsgt.demon.co.uk [158.152.245.107]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f09D71I29559 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:07:02 +0100 Received: from dsgt (Administrators@localhost) by dsgt.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA00044; Tue, 09 Jan 2001 13:08:19 GMT Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 13:08:19 GMT Resent-From: jwrmartin@dsgt.demon.co.uk Resent-Message-Id: <200101091308.NAA00044@dsgt.demon.co.uk> From: "Flt Lt J W R Martin" To: "Astrid Heinicke" , "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: RE: [pdftex] font: Arial Message-ID: <000401c07a3d$3c967160$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-reply-To: <3A59A606.7E4EA8FB@Oracle.com> Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f09D71I29559 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:08:19 -0000 If you look in the list archives, you will find good information on setting up pdflatex to use truetype fonts. Search for "truetype". I did this 2 weeks ago and now have working truetype fonts on teTeX and fpTeX on both Win NT and SuSE Linux (6.3 as it happens). Personally, I prefer to use the postcript analog, Helvetica, as the font quality is a mite better. If you can't find any info, get back to me and I'll try to find the URL of the web page that I used. John |-----Original Message----- |From: pdftex-admin@tug.org [mailto:pdftex-admin@tug.org]On Behalf Of |Astrid Heinicke |Sent: 08 January 2001 11:36 |To: pdftex@tug.org |Subject: [pdftex] font: Arial | | |Happy new year to you all! | |I am not sure whether my concerns are related to pdflatex or to latex in |general. |I'd really like to use the font "Arial", so what do I have to do? Are |there any packages to be loaded? | |Help is very much appreciated. |Thanks in advance | |Astrid | | | | | _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Jan-2001 0:27:59-GMT,2669;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18340 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:27:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0A031I00641; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:03:01 +0100 Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail1.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0A02UI00634 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:02:30 +0100 Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #3) id 14G8io-0004LU-00; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:02:34 +0000 Received: from max28.public.ox.ac.uk ([192.76.27.28] helo=spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ident=rahtz) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14G8im-0003tM-00; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:02:32 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.6.1 (via feedmail 8 Q); VM 6.86 under Emacs 20.6.1 From: "Sebastian Rahtz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14939.42444.459555.18755@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> To: pdftex@tug.org cc: s.muzaferija@iccm.de In-Reply-To: <200101051145.GAA21282@old.tug.org> References: <200101051145.GAA21282@old.tug.org> Subject: [pdftex] Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [Samir Muzaferija ] Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:59:08 +0000 > Sender: s.muzaferija@iccm.de > I would like to ask you for the help. When I try to process a tex file > using the pdflatex command, I get the following two errors > > 1) > [60] > > > ! Package graphics Error: Division by 0. > I would _guess_ that the resolution in the PNG file is weird. Anyone else seen this? sebastian _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Jan-2001 8:05:46-GMT,2729;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28235 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:05:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0A841I02410; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:04:01 +0100 Received: from noa.csn.es (noa.csn.es [192.112.247.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0A83oI02404 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:03:50 +0100 Received: from server1.csn.es (server1.csn.es [193.144.31.7]) by noa.csn.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10006; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:59:30 +0100 Received: from pcx05.csn.es (ema@pcx05.csn.es [193.144.29.134]) by server1.csn.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA16528; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:01:41 +0100 (MET) From: Enrique Melendez Asensio To: s.muzaferija@iccm.de cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [Samir Muzaferija ] In-Reply-To: <14939.42444.459555.18755@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f0A83oI02404 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:03:45 +0100 (CET) On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: º > > Sender: s.muzaferija@iccm.de > > > I would like to ask you for the help. When I try to process a tex file > > using the pdflatex command, I get the following two errors > > > > 1) > > [60] > > > > > > ! Package graphics Error: Division by 0. > > > > I would _guess_ that the resolution in the PNG file is weird. > > Anyone else seen this? Perhaps a rotated graphic (with zero depth) using height instead of totalheight in the options to \includegraphics? Enrique _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Jan-2001 11:15:40-GMT,2872;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01632 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:15:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0ABE1I03407; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:14:01 +0100 Received: from mail1.isys.net (heavymetal-0.isys.net [193.96.224.45] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0ABDjI03401 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:13:46 +0100 Received: from [195.64.99.12] (helo=pc1.iccm.de) by mail1.isys.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14GJF6-0004W6-00; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:16:36 +0100 Received: from iccm.de (samir@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pc1.iccm.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04775; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:13:20 +0100 Message-ID: <3A5C43D0.78F6094B@iccm.de> From: Samir Muzaferija Organization: ICCM GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Enrique Melendez Asensio CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Re: BOUNCE pdftex@tug.org: Non-member submission from [Samir Muzaferija ] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:13:20 +0100 > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > º > > > Sender: s.muzaferija@iccm.de > > > > > I would like to ask you for the help. When I try to process a tex file > > > using the pdflatex command, I get the following two errors > > > > > > 1) > > > [60] > > > > > > > > > ! Package graphics Error: Division by 0. > > > > > > > I would _guess_ that the resolution in the PNG file is weird. > > > > Anyone else seen this? > > Perhaps a rotated graphic (with zero depth) using height instead of > totalheight in the options to \includegraphics? > > Enrique The rotation of the graphics have helped. Than you all for your time. Samir _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 10-Jan-2001 14:27:29-GMT,2594;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05162 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:27:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0AEP1I04490; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:25:01 +0100 Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.70] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0AEOXI04480 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:24:33 +0100 Received: from A51d1.pppool.de (213.6.81.209) by mail.epost.de (5.1.057) id 3A4B132A0009FD15 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:23:48 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10325343153.20010110152440@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] hyperref and list of floats Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:24:40 +0100 Hi, another question concerning hyperref: In addition to the "list of figures" and the "list of tables", I'd like to get a "list of plates" ("Tafelverzeichnis" in German; I hope "plate" is the correct translation of the german word "Tafel", which means as much as "colored figure"). With LaTeX I could simply define this new type of floats via % Defining the float type "Tafel": \floatstyle{plain} \newfloat{Tafel}{thp}{taf}[chapter] \floatname{Tafel}{Tafel} and add the lines % Creating a "Tafelverzeichnis": \listof{Tafel}{Tafelverzeichnis} to my document, but with pdfLaTeX this isn't working, because hyperref doesn't accept the definitions shown above. Anybody any idea? I think this problem is not so exotic that I am the first one who has to solve it. Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Jan-2001 15:55:54-GMT,2316;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12830 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:55:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0BFs1I11295; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:54:01 +0100 Received: from dsgt.demon.co.uk (dsgt.demon.co.uk [158.152.245.107]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0BFr1I11285 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:53:02 +0100 Received: from dsgt (Administrators@localhost) by dsgt.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00193 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:54:18 GMT Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:54:18 GMT Resent-From: jwrmartin@dsgt.demon.co.uk Resent-Message-Id: <200101111554.PAA00193@dsgt.demon.co.uk> From: "Flt Lt J W R Martin" To: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Message-ID: <000f01c07be6$c19d2610$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f0BFr1I11285 Subject: [pdftex] hyperref and chapterbib Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:54:18 -0000 Has anyone managed to get hyperref and chapterbib working together? If not, I'll have a go, but I don't want to waste CPU cycles if someone's already done it. John _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 11-Jan-2001 17:20:43-GMT,2355;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15340 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:20:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0BHJ1I11701; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:19:01 +0100 Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.71] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0BHIcI11695 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:18:39 +0100 Received: from A959e.pppool.de (213.6.149.158) by mail.epost.de (5.1.057) id 3A4B1443000C85D9 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:23:05 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <144621289.20010111181845@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] hyperref and cite Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:18:45 +0100 Hi, in my last message I described a problem with the combination hyperref/varioref. Of course this was rubbish: The problem is between hyperref and cite: In my thesis I want to have the literature references sorted by number and collected, if possible. Examples: With LaTeX and varioref I get something like "Details can be found in [7,13,31-33]." This is what I want. But with pdfLaTeX, varioref and hyperref I get: "Details can be found in [31,32,13,33,7]." So the references are neigher sorted nor collected. Has anybody any idea? Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 8:21:29-GMT,2182;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08111 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 01:21:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0C8K2I14943; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:20:02 +0100 Received: from web1605.mail.yahoo.com (web1605.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.205]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0C8JGI14933 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:19:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 5411 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2001 08:19:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20010112081918.5410.qmail@web1605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [161.142.1.6] by web1605.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:19:18 PST From: mira tantri To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] question Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:19:18 -0800 (PST) Dear Sirs/ Madams, I would like to ask if you could give me several information about the file formats, such as .txt, .doc, .rtf, .wri, .pdf, about the file size and facilities they support. I also want to know about the differences between bitmapped and field text in macromedia. I really appreciate if you could help me. Thank you for your attention. Mira __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 13:11:12-GMT,2273;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13072 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 06:11:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0CD81I16133; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:08:01 +0100 Received: from relay1.jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0CD7iI16123 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:07:45 +0100 Received: from tiger (tiger.jet.msk.su) [193.124.4.1] by relay1.jet.msk.su with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 14H3vn-0004T9-00; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:07:47 +0300 Received: from david.service.jet.msk.su [192.168.10.103] (root) by tiger.jet.msk.su with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 14H3vm-000131-00; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:07:46 +0300 Received: from tobotras by david.service.jet.msk.su with local (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14H3vK-000799-00 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:07:18 +0300 To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Boris Tobotras Message-ID: Lines: 8 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Channel Islands" Subject: [pdftex] How to concatenate PDF files Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 12 Jan 2001 16:07:18 +0300 Hi, I remember some time ago somebody showed here how to use pdftex to concatenate several PDF files, but I was unable to found that message. Can anybody help, please? -- Best regards, -- Boris. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 13:14:08-GMT,3024;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13138 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 06:14:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0CDBqI16161; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:11:52 +0100 Received: from clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de [134.96.187.26]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0CD7mI16127 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:07:48 +0100 Organization: DFKI Saarbruecken GmbH, D 66123 Saarbruecken Received: from dfki.de (lost [134.96.187.60]) by clichy.dfki.uni-sb.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14891; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:07:27 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A5F018F.E8314789@dfki.de> From: Berthold Crysmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiko Huckauf CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] hyperref and cite References: <144621289.20010111181845@epost.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:07:27 +0100 Aiko Huckauf wrote: > Hi, > > in my last message I described a problem with the combination > hyperref/varioref. Of course this was rubbish: The problem is between > hyperref and cite: > > In my thesis I want to have the literature references > sorted by number and collected, if possible. > Examples: > With LaTeX and varioref I get something like > "Details can be found in [7,13,31-33]." > This is what I want. > But with pdfLaTeX, varioref and hyperref I get: > "Details can be found in [31,32,13,33,7]." > So the references are neigher sorted nor collected. Doesn't natbib allow sorting and compression of references as well? If that is the case (don't know really, as I always use author/name citation), it is perhaps worth a try, as natbib is very well supported by hyperref. Cheers, Berthold > > > Has anybody any idea? > > Aiko Huckauf > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- Berthold Crysmann Deutsches Forschungszentrum Kuenstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3 D-66123 Saarbruecken _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 13:56:06-GMT,2351;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13963 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 06:56:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0CDs1I16323; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:54:01 +0100 Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.70] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0CDraI16317 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:53:36 +0100 Received: from A4e54.pppool.de (213.6.78.84) by mail.epost.de (5.1.057) id 3A5DBAFC00013DFC for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:52:43 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <302138195.20010112145327@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re[2]: [pdftex] hyperref and cite In-reply-To: <3A5F018F.E8314789@dfki.de> References: <144621289.20010111181845@epost.de> <3A5F018F.E8314789@dfki.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:53:27 +0100 BC> Doesn't natbib allow sorting and compression of references as well? If BC> that is the case (don't know really, as I always use author/name BC> citation), it is perhaps worth a try, as natbib is very well supported BC> by hyperref. Hi, yes, indeed, with natbib it is possible. As a matter of fact it's not as easy as it seems, but after some attempts I've got the solution now. Many thanks for your hint! Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 14:54:50-GMT,1841;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15231; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:54:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA24517; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:54:49 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:54:49 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: [pdftex] hyperref and cite Message-ID: The question was raised this morning about getting numerical references sorted. There is a package that does this already: citesort.sty, written by Donald Arseneau in 1989: ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/obsolete/macros/latex209/contrib/misc/citesort.sty It is on the TeXlive-5d CD in texmf/tex/latex/ltxmisc/citesort.sty ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Jan-2001 17:31:26-GMT,1510;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19581 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:31:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14H82t-0008HG-00; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:31:23 +0000 To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] hyperref and cite In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:54:49 MST." Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:31:22 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: > The question was raised this morning about getting numerical references > sorted. There is a package that does this already: citesort.sty, > written by Donald Arseneau in 1989: > > ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/obsolete/macros/latex209/contrib/misc/citesort.sty > > It is on the TeXlive-5d CD in > texmf/tex/latex/ltxmisc/citesort.sty unfortunately, it's unlikely to work with hyperref, given that cite.sty (which long ago superseded it) doesn't work with hyperref. citesort is _so _ old, and _so_ inferior to cite.sty, that i moved it some time ago to the `obsolete' area of ctan (as you see above). i guess the recommendation remains to use natbib sort&compress option. robin 12-Jan-2001 17:34:27-GMT,2516;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19678 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:34:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0CHW1I17623; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:32:01 +0100 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0CHVII17615 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:31:18 +0100 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14H82t-0008HG-00; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:31:23 +0000 To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] hyperref and cite In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:54:49 MST." From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:31:22 +0000 > The question was raised this morning about getting numerical references > sorted. There is a package that does this already: citesort.sty, > written by Donald Arseneau in 1989: > > ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/obsolete/macros/latex209/contrib/misc/citesort.sty > > It is on the TeXlive-5d CD in > texmf/tex/latex/ltxmisc/citesort.sty unfortunately, it's unlikely to work with hyperref, given that cite.sty (which long ago superseded it) doesn't work with hyperref. citesort is _so _ old, and _so_ inferior to cite.sty, that i moved it some time ago to the `obsolete' area of ctan (as you see above). i guess the recommendation remains to use natbib sort&compress option. robin _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 17:41:58-GMT,2787;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19870 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:41:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0CHf1I17693; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:41:01 +0100 Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0CHecI17687 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:40:38 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-isdn1697.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.186.161]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20524; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:40:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA15620; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:36:51 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010112183328.01ac28d0@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Boris Tobotras From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to concatenate PDF files Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:33:28 +0100 At 04:07 PM 1/12/01 +0300, Boris Tobotras wrote: > Hi, > > I remember some time ago somebody showed here how to use pdftex to > concatenate several PDF files, but I was unable to found that > message. Can anybody help, please? Texexec/context can do that in several ways with any pdf; you can find more on that our web site, or in the texexec manual, or on the context list. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 20:00:28-GMT,3276;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23877 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:00:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0CJx1I19773; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:59:01 +0100 Received: from sunshine.math.utah.edu (sunshine.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0CJw4I19766 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:58:04 +0100 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23784; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:58:09 -0700 (MST) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28213; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:58:09 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: pdfTeX Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Message-ID: Subject: [pdftex] Re: pdf to text? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:58:09 -0700 (MST) James W. Haefner asks on Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:51:43 -0700: >> Is there a functional equivalent [of pstotext and dvitty] for pdf? Yes: pdftotext, part of the xpdf distribution: http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ ftp://ftp.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/ Another approach is to convert the PDF to PostScript (with acroread or gs), and then apply ghostscript's ps2ascii or Compaq/DEC's pstotext (which uses gs underneath). A new release of that appeared recently: http://www.research.compaq.com/SRC/virtualpaper ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 20:59:12-GMT,3100;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25391 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:59:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0CKw1I19994; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:58:01 +0100 Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.70] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0CKvUI19988 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:57:30 +0100 Received: from A936f.pppool.de (213.6.147.111) by mail.epost.de (5.1.057) id 3A5DBAFC00019939 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:56:41 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17015309530.20010112215723@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re[2]: [pdftex] hyperref and cite In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:57:23 +0100 >> The question was raised this morning about getting numerical references >> sorted. There is a package that does this already: citesort.sty, >> written by Donald Arseneau in 1989: >> >> ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/obsolete/macros/latex209/contrib/misc/citesort.sty >> >> It is on the TeXlive-5d CD in >> texmf/tex/latex/ltxmisc/citesort.sty RF> unfortunately, it's unlikely to work with hyperref, given that RF> cite.sty (which long ago superseded it) doesn't work with hyperref. RF> citesort is _so _ old, and _so_ inferior to cite.sty, that i moved it RF> some time ago to the `obsolete' area of ctan (as you see above). RF> i guess the recommendation remains to use natbib sort&compress option. RF> robin Indeed, citesort is very old, that's why I used cite instead. Unfortunately, however, cite doesn't work together with hyperref (at least with respect to sorting and compressing the numerical references). In the meantime I found a solution using natbib instead of cite. Natbib knows the option "sort&compress", and with a small additional workaround, the combination natbib/hyperref produced exactly what I wanted to have. Greetings Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 22:21:19-GMT,3704;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27836 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:21:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0CMK1I20345; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:20:01 +0100 Received: from stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com [12.13.247.21]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0CMJ3I20334 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:19:03 +0100 Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com ([192.76.190.6]) by stl-smtpout-01.boeing.com (8.9.2/8.8.5-M2) with ESMTP id QAA19391 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:19:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from stl-hub-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA29232 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:19:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from xch-pssbh-03.ca.boeing.com by stl-hub-01.boeing.com with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:18:57 -0600 Received: by xch-pssbh-03.ca.boeing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:18:56 -0800 Message-Id: <47A8359928094345874C94095F80C4439A5516@xch-rtn-02> From: "Wilson, Peter R" To: pdftex@tug.org, "'Aiko Huckauf'" Subject: RE: [pdftex] hyperref and list of floats MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:18:48 -0800 You might find that the ccaption (note the double c) package should work for you: \usepackage{ccaption} \newfloatenv[chapter]{Tafel}{taf}{Tafel} \makeatletter \def\toclevel@Tafel{0} % stops a warning from hyperref \makeatother ... \listfloats{Tafel}{Tafelverzeichnis} Peter W. > ---------- > From: Aiko Huckauf[SMTP:Aiko.Huckauf@epost.de] > Reply To: Aiko Huckauf > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:24 AM > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: [pdftex] hyperref and list of floats > > Hi, > > another question concerning hyperref: In addition to the "list > of figures" and the "list of tables", I'd like to get a "list > of plates" ("Tafelverzeichnis" in German; I hope "plate" is the > correct translation of the german word "Tafel", which means as > much as "colored figure"). > > With LaTeX I could simply define this new type of floats via > > % Defining the float type "Tafel": > \floatstyle{plain} > \newfloat{Tafel}{thp}{taf}[chapter] > \floatname{Tafel}{Tafel} > > and add the lines > > % Creating a "Tafelverzeichnis": > \listof{Tafel}{Tafelverzeichnis} > > to my document, but with pdfLaTeX this isn't working, because > hyperref doesn't accept the definitions shown above. > > Anybody any idea? I think this problem is not so exotic that I > am the first one who has to solve it. > > Aiko Huckauf > > > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 14:56:22-GMT,3062;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15279 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:56:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0CEt1I16639; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:55:01 +0100 Received: from sunshine.math.utah.edu (sunshine.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0CEsiI16631 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:54:44 +0100 Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15231; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:54:49 -0700 (MST) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA24517; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:54:49 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: [pdftex] hyperref and cite Message-ID: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:54:49 -0700 (MST) The question was raised this morning about getting numerical references sorted. There is a package that does this already: citesort.sty, written by Donald Arseneau in 1989: ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/obsolete/macros/latex209/contrib/misc/citesort.sty It is on the TeXlive-5d CD in texmf/tex/latex/ltxmisc/citesort.sty ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 19:49:16-GMT,2288;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23570 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:49:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0CJm1I19719; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:48:01 +0100 Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0CJlWI19713 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:47:32 +0100 Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233-1.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.16.3]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id YG1X9SVF; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:47:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3A5F604F.73E35F81@biology.usu.edu> From: "James W. Haefner" Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] pdf to text? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:51:43 -0700 This is a bit off subject. I want to extract text from a pdf file. I know pstotext can do it, but it loses almost all formatting. dvi2tty keeps quite a lot of formatting. Is there a functional equivalent for pdf? -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 12-Jan-2001 19:58:10-GMT,2046;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from suncore.math.utah.edu (suncore0.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.5]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23784; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:58:09 -0700 (MST) Received: (from beebe@localhost) by suncore.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28213; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:58:09 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:58:09 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: pdfTeX Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: pdf to text? Message-ID: James W. Haefner asks on Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:51:43 -0700: >> Is there a functional equivalent [of pstotext and dvitty] for pdf? Yes: pdftotext, part of the xpdf distribution: http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ ftp://ftp.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/ Another approach is to convert the PDF to PostScript (with acroread or gs), and then apply ghostscript's ps2ascii or Compaq/DEC's pstotext (which uses gs underneath). A new release of that appeared recently: http://www.research.compaq.com/SRC/virtualpaper ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org beebe@computer.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Jan-2001 16:08:42-GMT,2827;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18123 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 09:08:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0DG71I23987; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:07:01 +0100 Received: from smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net (smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net [212.69.192.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0DG65I23981 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:06:05 +0100 Received: from [212.69.192.215] (helo=svr2.design-web.co.uk) by smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14HTBv-000093-00; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:06:07 +0000 Received: from daltons.net (host213-1-76-109.btinternet.com [213.1.76.109]) by svr2.design-web.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0DG62N27035; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:06:02 GMT Message-ID: <3A607CCD.7200116C@daltons.net> From: Barney Dalton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiko Huckauf CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] hyperref and cite References: <17015309530.20010112215723@epost.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:05:33 +0000 Aiko Huckauf wrote: > > >> The question was raised this morning about getting numerical references > >> sorted. There is a package that does this already: citesort.sty, > >> written by Donald Arseneau in 1989: > >> > >> ftp://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/obsolete/macros/latex209/contrib/misc/citesort.sty > >> > >> It is on the TeXlive-5d CD in > >> texmf/tex/latex/ltxmisc/citesort.sty > > > In the meantime I found a solution using natbib instead of cite. > Natbib knows the option "sort&compress", and with a small additional > workaround, the combination natbib/hyperref produced exactly what I > wanted to have. What was the small additional workaround, as I have to do the same for my thesis. thanks barney _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Jan-2001 13:14:40-GMT,7376;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA10676 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:14:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0ED91I00740; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:09:02 +0100 Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.71] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0ED8dI00734 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:08:39 +0100 Received: from A5625.pppool.de (213.6.86.37) by mail.epost.de (5.1.057) id 3A4B1443000EFD65 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:13:07 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <512055281.20010114140844@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re[2]: [pdftex] hyperref and cite In-reply-To: <3A607CCD.7200116C@daltons.net> References: <17015309530.20010112215723@epost.de> <3A607CCD.7200116C@daltons.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:08:44 +0100 BD> What was the small additional workaround, as I have to do the same for BD> my thesis. BD> thanks BD> barney Hallo Barney, the workaround consists of 99 lines of source code. The way I got things to work is as follows: 1) In my document preamble I use \usepackage[square,comma,numbers,sort&compress]{natbib} \usepackage{mynatbib} where "mynatbib" is the following text: % Begin of mynatbib.sty % \makeatletter \AtBeginDocument{\def\NAT@sort{2}} \def\NAT@citexnum[#1][#2]#3{% \NAT@sort@cites{#3}% \let\@citea\@empty \@cite{\def\NAT@num{-1}\let\NAT@last@yr\relax\let\NAT@nm\@empty \@for\@citeb:=\NAT@cite@list\do {\edef\@citeb{\expandafter\@firstofone\@citeb}% \if@filesw\immediate\write\@auxout{\string\citation{\@citeb}}\fi \@ifundefined{b@\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}{% {\reset@font\bfseries?} \NAT@citeundefined\PackageWarning{natbib}% {Citation `\@citeb' on page \thepage \space undefined}}% {\let\NAT@last@num\NAT@num\let\NAT@last@nm\NAT@nm \NAT@parse{\@citeb}% \ifNAT@longnames\@ifundefined{bv@\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}{% \let\NAT@name=\NAT@all@names \global\@namedef{bv@\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}{}}{}% \fi \ifNAT@full\let\NAT@nm\NAT@all@names\else \let\NAT@nm\NAT@name\fi \ifNAT@swa \ifnum\NAT@ctype>1\relax\@citea \hyper@natlinkstart{\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}% \ifnum\NAT@ctype=2\relax\NAT@test{\NAT@ctype}% \else\NAT@alias \fi\hyper@natlinkend\else \ifnum\NAT@sort>1 \begingroup\catcode`\_=8 \ifcat _\ifnum\z@<0\NAT@num _\else A\fi \global\let\NAT@nm=\NAT@num \else \gdef\NAT@nm{-2}\fi \ifcat _\ifnum\z@<0\NAT@last@num _\else A\fi \global\@tempcnta=\NAT@last@num \global\advance\@tempcnta by\@ne \else \global\@tempcnta\m@ne\fi \endgroup \ifnum\NAT@nm=\@tempcnta \ifx\NAT@last@yr\relax % \edef\NAT@last@yr{\@citea \mbox{\noexpand\citenumfont{\NAT@num}}}% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \edef\NAT@last@yr{\@citea \mbox{\noexpand \hyper@natlinkstart{\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}% \noexpand\citenumfont\NAT@num% \hyper@natlinkend}% }% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \else % \edef\NAT@last@yr{--\penalty\@m\mbox{\noexpand\citenumfont{\NAT@num}}}% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \edef\NAT@last@yr{--\penalty\@m\mbox{\noexpand \hyper@natlinkstart{\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}% \noexpand\citenumfont\NAT@num% \hyper@natlinkend}% }% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \fi \else % \NAT@last@yr \@citea \mbox{\citenumfont{\NAT@num}}% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \NAT@last@yr \@citea \mbox{% \hyper@natlinkstart{\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}% \citenumfont{\NAT@num}% \hyper@natlinkend}% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \let\NAT@last@yr\relax \fi \else \@citea \mbox{\hyper@natlinkstart{\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}% {\citenumfont{\NAT@num}}\hyper@natlinkend}% \fi \fi \def\@citea{\NAT@sep\penalty\@m\NAT@space}% \else \ifcase\NAT@ctype\relax \ifx\NAT@last@nm\NAT@nm \NAT@yrsep\penalty\@m\NAT@space\else \@citea \NAT@test{1}\ \NAT@@open \if*#1*\else#1\ \fi\fi \NAT@mbox{% \hyper@natlinkstart{\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}% {\citenumfont{\NAT@num}}\hyper@natlinkend}% \def\@citea{\NAT@@close\NAT@sep\penalty\@m\ }% \or\@citea \hyper@natlinkstart{\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}% \NAT@test{\NAT@ctype}\hyper@natlinkend \def\@citea{\NAT@sep\penalty\@m\ }% \or\@citea \hyper@natlinkstart{\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}% \NAT@test{\NAT@ctype}\hyper@natlinkend \def\@citea{\NAT@sep\penalty\@m\ }% \or\@citea \hyper@natlinkstart{\@citeb\@extra@b@citeb}% \NAT@alias\hyper@natlinkend \def\@citea{\NAT@sep\penalty\@m\ }% \fi \fi }}% \ifnum\NAT@sort>1\relax\NAT@last@yr\fi \ifNAT@swa\else\ifnum\NAT@ctype=0\if*#2*\else \NAT@cmt#2\fi \NAT@@close\fi\fi}{#1}{#2}} \makeatother % End of mynatbib.sty % I got this code from Jens Berger , whose homepage is http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~jberger, and I saved the text as "mynatbib.sty" in a folder where pdfLaTeX could find it. Without this code one gets sorted, but not compressed references. At present, I haven't got enough time to understand why; I'm happy that things work and don't think about the reasons. 2) Within my document, I used \bibliographystyle{unsrt} \bibliography{Literatur/Dissertation} "Dissertation.bib" is my literature database, which is set up in a very uncommon manner. I think this is the reason, why I have to use "unsrt" instead of "unsrtnat": With "unsrtnat" it doesn't work in my case, but perhaps it does in your case. Good luck! Aiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Jan-2001 13:20:25-GMT,2634;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA10768 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:20:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0EDI1I00790; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:18:01 +0100 Received: from dravite.mint.net (dravite.mint.net [216.227.128.32]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0EDDHI00763 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:13:17 +0100 Received: from PINGA.YandY.com (northconway-ppp-34.landmarknet.net [63.75.118.39]) by dravite.mint.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04371; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:13:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010114081408.02a55e30@pop.tiac.net> X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 To: "James W. Haefner" , pdfTeX From: Y&Y Support Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf to text? In-Reply-To: <3A5F604F.73E35F81@biology.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:14:37 -0500 At 12:51 2001-01-12 -0700, you wrote: This is a bit off subject. I want to extract text from a pdf file. I know pstotext can do it, but it loses almost all formatting. dvi2tty keeps quite a lot of formatting. Is there a functional equivalent for pdf? In Acrobat Reader, select the text you want and "Copy" it tot he clipboard and then "Paste" it into your editor. Of course this won't work if the "text" is a bitmapped image, or if it is made using legacy bitmapped fonts. Also, if you are using a package like AE that fakes composite characters by overprinting, you will not get accented characters. But if you are using real text fonts you will get what you want. -- Y&Y Support mailto:support@YandY.com http://www.YandY.com/unique.htm (PG) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Jan-2001 21:04:35-GMT,3457;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19086 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:04:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0EKo1I02253; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:50:01 +0100 Received: from sp2n17.missouri.edu (sp2n17.missouri.edu [128.206.10.168]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0EKnbI02243 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:49:37 +0100 Received: from [128.206.14.16] (mu-014016.dhcp.missouri.edu [128.206.14.16]) by sp2n17.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA63086; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:48:47 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: To: Boris Tobotras , pdftex@tug.org From: Oscar Chavez Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to concatenate PDF files Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f0EKnbI02243 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:49:08 -0600 At 4:07 PM +0300 1/12/01, Boris Tobotras wrote: > Hi, > > I remember some time ago somebody showed here how to use pdftex to > concatenate several PDF files, but I was unable to found that > message. Can anybody help, please? > >-- > Best regards, -- Boris. >_______________________________________________ >pdftex mailing list >pdftex@tug.org >http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex Here are a couple of messages regarding this: 1. -------- On 2000-09-26 10:26:18 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote: >I've seen the following question in this list before but I can't >find any record of it: >how can I merge two or more pdf files into one single document? Run this through pdflatex: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} \includegraphics{foo.pdf} \includegraphics{bar.pdf} \end{document} For more information consult the grfguide. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, MS@ArtCom-GmbH.DE ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 2. --------- At 16:45 26.09.2000 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote: > > >Is this supposed to work with multiple page documents? I tried two >include two pdf files with many pages each and only the first page >of each document was included. \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \includegraphics[page=4]{...} CTAN:macros/pdftex/graphics/pdftex.def Yours sincerely Heiko ------- -- Oscar Chavez oc918@mizzou.edu _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 14-Jan-2001 21:07:59-GMT,2367;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19184 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:07:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0EKs0I02286; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:54:00 +0100 Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.71] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0EKoAI02255 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:50:10 +0100 Received: from A975c.pppool.de (213.6.151.92) by mail.epost.de (5.1.057) id 3A4B1443000F5EC4 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:54:38 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <282835524.20010114215015@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re[2]: [pdftex] hyperref and list of floats In-reply-To: <47A8359928094345874C94095F80C4439A5516@xch-rtn-02> References: <47A8359928094345874C94095F80C4439A5516@xch-rtn-02> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:50:15 +0100 Hallo Peter, WPR> You might find that the ccaption (note the double c) package should work for you: WPR> \usepackage{ccaption} WPR> \newfloatenv[chapter]{Tafel}{taf}{Tafel} WPR> \makeatletter WPR> \def\toclevel@Tafel{0} % stops a warning from hyperref WPR> \makeatother WPR> ... WPR> \listfloats{Tafel}{Tafelverzeichnis} WPR> Peter W. Indeed, the ccaption package works. Many thanks! Greetings Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Jan-2001 8:49:19-GMT,2710;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02621 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 01:49:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0F8m1I04956; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:48:01 +0100 Received: from plane.elvenkind.com (qn-212-127-141-231.quicknet.nl [212.127.141.231]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0F8lYI04950 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:47:34 +0100 Received: from elvenkind.com (IDENT:siep@oban.home [10.10.0.7]) by plane.elvenkind.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA32034 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:47:32 +0100 From: siep@elvenkind.com Message-Id: <200101150847.JAA32034@plane.elvenkind.com> Reply-To: siep@elvenkind.com Subject: Re: [pdftex] How to concatenate PDF files To: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:47:29 +0100 (CET) On 12 Jan, Boris Tobotras wrote: > Hi, > > I remember some time ago somebody showed here how to use pdftex to > concatenate several PDF files, but I was unable to found that > message. Can anybody help, please? > Another way to do this: Acrobat Distiller includes documentation for concatenating ps files with a driver file: %! /prun { /mysave save def % Performs a save before running the PS file dup = flush % Shows name of PS file being run RunFile % Calls built in Distiller procedure clear cleardictstack % Cleans up after PS file mysave restore % Restores save level } def (filename1.ps) prun (filename2.ps) prun This also applies to Ghostscript, With `Runfile' replaced with `run'. You can either first convert pdf to ps before applying this or try whether you can use the pdfs directly. -- Siep Kroonenberg siep@elvenkind.com _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Jan-2001 10:33:10-GMT,3187;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA04359 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:33:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0FAW1I05381; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:32:01 +0100 Received: from batman.npl.co.uk (batman.npl.co.uk [139.143.5.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0FAV6I05373 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:31:06 +0100 Received: from herschel.npl.co.uk ([139.143.1.16]) by batman.npl.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0FAVBf07313 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:31:11 GMT Received: (from root@localhost) by herschel.npl.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f0FAVAM10130 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:31:10 GMT Received: by herschel.npl.co.uk XSMTPD/VSCAN; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:31:09 GMT Received: from tempest.npl.co.uk (tempest [139.143.18.16]) by capulin.cise.npl.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01301 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:31:09 GMT Received: (from rmb1@localhost) by tempest.npl.co.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id KAA29951 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:31:08 GMT From: Robin Barker Message-Id: <200101151031.KAA29951@tempest.npl.co.uk> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf to text? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:31:08 GMT > In Acrobat Reader, select the text you want and "Copy" it tot he clipboard > and then "Paste" it into your editor. > > Of course this won't work if the "text" is a bitmapped image, > or if it is made using legacy bitmapped fonts. > Also, if you are using a package like AE that fakes composite characters > by overprinting, you will not get accented characters. > But if you are using real text fonts you will get what you want. > This is how I do pdf to text but I have one problem. Some ligatures are dealt with properly, but "fl" does not work. \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \begin{document} Can you find a reflection? \end{document} If I cut and paste the resulting pdf file, I get: Can you find a re ection? Can this be fixed? Robin -- Robin Barker | Email: Robin.Barker@npl.co.uk CMSC, Building 10, | Phone: +44 (0) 20 8943 7090 National Physical Laboratory, | Fax: +44 (0) 20 8977 7091 Teddington, Middlesex, UK. TW11 OLW | WWW: http://www.npl.co.uk _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Jan-2001 17:02:25-GMT,2706;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11311 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:02:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0FH01I07153; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:00:01 +0100 Received: from dsgt.demon.co.uk (dsgt.demon.co.uk [158.152.245.107]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0FGxII07143 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:59:19 +0100 Received: from dsgt (Administrators@localhost) by dsgt.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA00111 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:00:01 GMT Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:00:01 GMT Resent-From: jwrmartin@dsgt.demon.co.uk Resent-Message-Id: <200101151700.RAA00111@dsgt.demon.co.uk> From: "John Martin" To: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Message-ID: <000601c07f14$997b6c10$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f0FGxII07143 Subject: [pdftex] \pdfannot example? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:00:01 -0000 I am running pdftex 0.14f with hyperref, etc, running well and wish to insert a comment/text annotation of the kind shown in the example file for pdftex. I have copied the code there using \pdfannot, and I have tried inserting an annotation using \pdfobject but can get neither to work. I am using Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.05 and doing the whole lot on WinNT. Ideally, I would like to be able to put an annotation next to a graphic, say, with the copyright information contained within it. Has anyone done this? If so, could you give me an example? Many thanks, John _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Jan-2001 17:09:14-GMT,3797;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11444 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:09:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0FH80I07203; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:08:00 +0100 Received: from bioserver1.biology.usu.edu (bioserver1.biology.usu.edu [129.123.16.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0FH4OI07186 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:04:24 +0100 Received: from biology.usu.edu (bnr233-1.bnr.usu.edu [129.123.16.3]) by bioserver1.biology.usu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id YG1X94VS; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:04:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3A632E79.15ADF99C@biology.usu.edu> From: "James W. Haefner" Organization: Utah State University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robin Barker CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf to text? References: <200101151031.KAA29951@tempest.npl.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:08:09 -0700 Robin Barker wrote: > > > In Acrobat Reader, select the text you want and "Copy" it tot he clipboard > > and then "Paste" it into your editor. > > > > Of course this won't work if the "text" is a bitmapped image, > > or if it is made using legacy bitmapped fonts. > > Also, if you are using a package like AE that fakes composite characters > > by overprinting, you will not get accented characters. > > But if you are using real text fonts you will get what you want. > > > Does this work for linux Acroread 4.05 (24 Jan 2000)? It doesn't on my KDE 1.1 system. After "select all", "copy", and "paste" into Nedit (and other text editors), I get only the first page and no carriage returns. pdftotext from Xpdf works reasonably well, as suggested by Mr. Beebe. Also pdftotext does not drop ligatures as mentioned by Robin Barker. > This is how I do pdf to text but I have one problem. Some ligatures > are dealt with properly, but "fl" does not work. > > \documentclass[a4paper]{article} > \begin{document} > Can you find a reflection? > \end{document} > > If I cut and paste the resulting pdf file, I get: > > Can you find a re ection? > > Can this be fixed? > > Robin > > -- > Robin Barker | Email: Robin.Barker@npl.co.uk > CMSC, Building 10, | Phone: +44 (0) 20 8943 7090 > National Physical Laboratory, | Fax: +44 (0) 20 8977 7091 > Teddington, Middlesex, UK. TW11 OLW | WWW: http://www.npl.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- James W. Haefner Department of Biology Email: jhaefner@biology.usu.edu Utah State University Voice: 435-797-3553 Logan, UT 84322-5305 Fax: 435-797-1575 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 15-Jan-2001 17:50:15-GMT,2994;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12464 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:50:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0FHn1I07436; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:49:01 +0100 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0FHmHI07429 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:48:17 +0100 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA12040; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:47:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14947.14308.438572.644558@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Boris Tobotras Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] How to concatenate PDF files In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.87 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:48:20 +0100 >>>>> "Boris" == Boris Tobotras writes: > Hi, I remember some time ago somebody showed here how to use > pdftex to concatenate several PDF files, but I was unable to > found that message. Can anybody help, please? texexec --pdfarrange --result=doc3.pdf doc1.pdf doc2.pdf Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 16-Jan-2001 21:08:00-GMT,2322;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19199 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:07:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0GL61I14593; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:06:01 +0100 Received: from idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org [206.181.22.66]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0GL5vI14587 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:05:57 +0100 Received: from idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org (root@localhost) by idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org with ESMTP id QAA22185 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from idaccr.org (runner.princeton.idaccr.org [10.0.0.2]) by idacrd.ccr-p.ida.org with ESMTP id QAA22175 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from linus.princeton.idaccr.org (linus [10.0.0.103]) by idaccr.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05360 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:05:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from linus (IDENT:gold@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linus.princeton.idaccr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22347 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:54:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200101162054.PAA22347@linus.princeton.idaccr.org> To: pdftex@tug.org From: David Goldschmidt Subject: [pdftex] acrobat security settings Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:54:22 -0500 Sorry if this is not the appropriate group, but I'm wondering if it's possible to set security options for the pdf output file and if so, how that's done. David _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Jan-2001 14:54:11-GMT,3045;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12447 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:54:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0HEr2I19010; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:53:02 +0100 Received: from smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net (smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net [212.69.192.4]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0HEqTI19004 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:52:38 +0100 Received: from [212.69.192.215] (helo=svr2.design-web.co.uk) by smtp-relay.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Itwp-000Lr7-00; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:52:27 +0000 Received: from daltons.net (mail.radioscape.com [193.122.23.66]) by svr2.design-web.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0HEqQ432315; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:52:26 GMT Message-ID: <38832CE4.EDD1EC4C@daltons.net> From: Barney Dalton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Martin CC: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: Re: [pdftex] \pdfannot example? References: <000601c07f14$997b6c10$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:53:24 +0000 John Martin wrote: > > I am running pdftex 0.14f with hyperref, etc, running well and wish to insert a comment/text annotation of the kind shown in the example file for pdftex. I have copied the code there using \pdfannot, and I have tried inserting an annotation using \pdfobject but can get neither to work. I am using Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.05 and doing the whole lot on WinNT. Ideally, I would like to be able to put an annotation next to a graphic, say, with the copyright information contained within it. Has anyone done this? If so, could you give me an example? > This is what I do (takes two arguments title, and text), can't quite remember how it works or where I got it from. \makeatletter \newcommand{\annotate}[2][]{% \pdfstringdef\x@title{#1}% \edef\r{\string\r}% \pdfstringdef\x@contents{#2}% \pdfannot width \linewidth height 3\baselineskip depth 0pt { /Subtype /Text /T (\x@title) /Contents (\x@contents) }% } \makeatother _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Jan-2001 15:28:56-GMT,2407;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13387 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:28:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0HFS1I19277; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:28:01 +0100 Received: from ns.felk.cvut.cz (ns.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.80.9]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0HFRqI19271 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:27:53 +0100 Received: from cmp.felk.cvut.cz (fu.felk.cvut.cz [147.32.84.6]) by ns.felk.cvut.cz (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0HFRvo56486 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:27:57 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from zyka@waltz.felk.cvut.cz) Received: from localhost (zyka@localhost) by cmp.felk.cvut.cz (8.11.0/8.7.3) with ESMTP id f0HFRvf32550 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:27:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: fu.felk.cvut.cz: zyka owned process doing -bs From: Vit Zyka X-Sender: To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] fixed box Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:27:57 +0100 (CET) Hallo, we are solving a problem with a titlepage of our reports. It is possible to insert a box by pdftex in the absolute position on the page, even it will not be influensed by "Fit to page" printer setting? Thanks Vit Zyka _________________________________ | Vit Zyka, researcher, CVUT FEL| | Center for Machine Perception | |{zyka@|http://}cmp.felk.cvut.cz| --------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Jan-2001 16:10:20-GMT,5328;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14539 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:10:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0HG91I19875; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:09:01 +0100 Received: from batman.labri.u-bordeaux.fr (batman.labri.u-bordeaux.fr [147.210.8.5]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0HG8KI19868 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:08:20 +0100 Received: from labri.u-bordeaux.fr (dealer [147.210.9.18]) by batman.labri.u-bordeaux.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10820 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:11:47 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A65C377.9C1730A4@labri.u-bordeaux.fr> From: Damien SAUVERON X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [fr] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] Problem with pdflatex ... Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:08:23 +0100 Hello, I want to compile the following example with pdflatex but the following error appears. Could you help me please ? Thanks Damien SAUVERON The example : \documentclass[a4,portrait]{seminar} \usepackage{pstcol} % To use the standard `color' package with Seminar \usepackage{semcolor} \input{seminar.bug} \usepackage{pst-grad} \definecolor{Gold}{rgb}{1.,0.84,0.} \slideframe[\psset{fillstyle=gradient,gradmidpoint=0.5, gradbegin=Gold,gradend=yellow}]{scplain} \begin{document} \begin{slide*} My slide with a nice gradient background. \end{slide*} \end{document} The error: ************************************* * Using LaTeX, with pslatex package * ************************************* This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1) LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, nohyphenation, loaded. (essai.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/seminar.cls Document Class: seminar 1997/10/13, 1.4 Document Style: `seminar' v1.4 <1997/10/13> (tvz) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/sem-page.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/seminar.con) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pstcol.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pstricks/pstricks.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pstricks/pstricks.tex `PSTricks' v97 patch 10 <1999/03/24> (tvz) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pstricks/pstricks.con))) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/dvips.def) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/dvipsnam.def))) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/semcolor.sty Style Option: `semcolor' for doc style `seminar' 1.0 <93/04/01> (tvz) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pstricks/pstricks.tex)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/seminar.bug) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pstricks/pst-grad.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pstricks/pst-grad.tex v97 patch 1, 1997/04/28)) (essai.aux) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/pslatex.sty) [1] (essai.aux) ) Output written on essai.dvi (1 page, 772 bytes). Transcript written on essai.log. /usr/labri/sauveron/texpower/texpower >pdflatex essai.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1) (essai.tex[/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg] LaTeX2e <1998/12/01> patch level 1 Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, i talian, nohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/seminar.cls Document Class: seminar 1997/10/13, 1.4 Document Style: `seminar' v1.4 <1997/10/13> (tvz) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1999/01/07 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/seminar/sem-page.sty)) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/seminar.con) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pstcol.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pstricks/pstricks.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pstricks/pstricks.tex `PSTricks' v97 patch 10 <1999/03/24> (tvz) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/pstricks/pstricks.con))) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def)) ! Undefined control sequence. \c@lor@to@ps l.41 \psset@bordercolor{white} ? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Jan-2001 16:42:30-GMT,2296;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15709 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:42:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0HGf2I20058; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:41:02 +0100 Received: from sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0HGe4I20049 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:40:04 +0100 Received: from localhost (oberdiek@localhost) by sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA25101; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:40:04 +0100 (MET) From: Heiko Oberdiek To: Damien SAUVERON cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problem with pdflatex ... In-Reply-To: <3A65C377.9C1730A4@labri.u-bordeaux.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:40:04 +0100 (MET) On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Damien SAUVERON wrote: > \usepackage{pstcol} % To use the standard `color' package with Seminar > \usepackage{pst-grad} > \slideframe[\psset{fillstyle=gradient,gradmidpoint=0.5, > gradbegin=Gold,gradend=yellow}]{scplain} pdfTeX does not support pstricks, because it does not contain a PostScript interpreter. Try ps2pdf (ghostscript), Distiller, VTeX, ... instead. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Jan-2001 16:44:14-GMT,2301;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15753 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:44:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0HGh2I20085; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:43:02 +0100 Received: from sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0HGgOI20077 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:42:24 +0100 Received: from localhost (oberdiek@localhost) by sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA25748; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:42:23 +0100 (MET) From: Heiko Oberdiek To: David Goldschmidt cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] acrobat security settings In-Reply-To: <200101162054.PAA22347@linus.princeton.idaccr.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:42:23 +0100 (MET) On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, David Goldschmidt wrote: > Sorry if this is not the appropriate group, but I'm wondering if it's possible > to set security options for the pdf output file and if so, how that's done. pdfTeX does not implement the Algorithm for encryption (it had to be licensed at least until last year). Therefore the security options cannot be set. Commercial products such as Adobe Acrobat can do this. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 17-Jan-2001 17:40:41-GMT,2872;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17475 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:40:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0HHd0I20520; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:39:01 +0100 Received: from mail.mediales.net (mail.mediales.net [144.41.253.141]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0HHcgI20512 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:38:42 +0100 Received: from flame.mediales.net ([144.41.253.149] helo=c65.work) by mail.mediales.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1 (Debian)) id 14IwXn-0001vG-00 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:38:47 +0100 Received: by c65.work (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:38:47 +0100 From: Andreas Mack To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: <20010117183847.C7193@c65.mediales.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Subject: [pdftex] font / recursion problem Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:38:47 +0100 Hi, I'm having a problem with pdftex, it was discussed in 1999 on this list according to the archives: http://www.tug.org/ListsArchives/pdftex/msg05319.html Basically I have installed a Type1 font and I'm able to use it in latex, make .dvi and Postscript files. When I use pdflatex, I get this error: >! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [max level recursion=10]. > > \endgroup >l.63 \item P > OP3 Server >! ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file not finished! >Transcript written on sysadmin.log. (the character mismatch also shows up, but according to the post above, it's not important.) I understand that the .vf file points to a same-named .pfb file, but why does that lead to recursion in tex? Normal latex processing works flawlessly. I've installed the font "the normal way", renaming pfb and afm file to the Berry scheme, did all the processing (vptovf, pltopf and such). Any further hints how to make it work ? Greetings, Andreas. -- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Jan-2001 10:46:47-GMT,3193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA15011 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:46:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0IAj1I24740; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:45:02 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0IAi7I24731 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:44:07 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26893; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:44:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11322; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:44:10 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200101181044.LAA11322@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdftex] font / recursion problem In-Reply-To: <20010117183847.C7193@c65.mediales.de> from Andreas Mack at "Jan 17, 1 06:38:47 pm" To: vasquez@mediales.net (Andreas Mack) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:44:10 +0100 (MET) > I'm having a problem with pdftex, it was discussed in 1999 on this > list according to the archives: > http://www.tug.org/ListsArchives/pdftex/msg05319.html > > Basically I have installed a Type1 font and I'm able to use > it in latex, make .dvi and Postscript files. When I use > pdflatex, I get this error: > > >! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [max level recursion=10]. > > > > \endgroup > >l.63 \item P > > OP3 Server > >! ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file not finished! > >Transcript written on sysadmin.log. > > (the character mismatch also shows up, but according to the post > above, it's not important.) > > I understand that the .vf file points to a same-named .pfb file, > but why does that lead to recursion in tex? Normal latex processing > works flawlessly. I've installed the font "the normal way", renaming > pfb and afm file to the Berry scheme, did all the processing (vptovf, > pltopf and such). Any further hints how to make it work ? does your vf file contain reference to the same vf? If this is the case, you can try to re-make the vf/tfm. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Jan-2001 11:55:58-GMT,2880;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16151 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:44:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0IBh1I24977; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:43:01 +0100 Received: from dsmail.hmi.de (dsmail.hmi.de [134.30.15.24]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0IBgXI24971 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:42:33 +0100 Received: from hmi.de (pgu@pieck1.hmi.de [134.30.11.89]) by dsmail.hmi.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f0IBgW025367; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:42:33 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A66D6A8.3A586DEB@hmi.de> From: Tim Brunne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18pre21 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] pdf ducument info (possible bug of 0.14f) Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:42:32 +0100 Hi, inspite of the risk that this has been reported already: Using pdflatex 0.14f with hyperref-package: I set document information using the \pdfauthor, etc. commands in the \hypersetup block of the LaTeX source. I can use the acrobat reader to check these settings. NOW: I had a file I prepared in August/September 2000 with a version of pdftex before release 0.14f. Everything was fine. After upgrading (Debian GNU/Linux system) to 0.14f I found that the (same) acrobat reader (as before) gave an error message when I wanted to look at the document info, of a pdf-file generated from the old sources with the 0.14f-release. Looking at the PDF-source directly in emacs confirmed that the corresponding parts of the pdf-file seem to be broken. Removing some of the \pdftitle, \pdfauthor, \pdfkeywords, etc. commands in the \hypersetup block the document info was fine again. Acrobat reader didn't complain any longer. MY DIAGNOSIS: 0.14f has a newly introduced bug. If the amount of text in the document info section becomes to long pdftex produces erroneous PDF data. Yours, Tim Brunne _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Jan-2001 15:49:26-GMT,3868;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21804 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:49:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0IFm1I26004; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:48:01 +0100 Received: from dsgt.demon.co.uk (dsgt.demon.co.uk [158.152.245.107]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0IFlFI25998 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:47:15 +0100 Received: from dsgt (Administrators@localhost) by dsgt.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00242; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:48:22 GMT Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:48:22 GMT Resent-From: jwrmartin@dsgt.demon.co.uk Resent-Message-Id: <200101181548.PAA00242@dsgt.demon.co.uk> From: "John Martin" To: "Barney Dalton" Cc: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: RE: [pdftex] \pdfannot example? Message-ID: <000601c08166$15fc08a0$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <38832CE4.EDD1EC4C@daltons.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f0IFlFI25998 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:48:22 -0000 Many thanks for this. I traced my problem and it is too embarrassing too mention publicly {almost}. The font I use in my text editor has {} looking a lot like (). It was that simple. Your code is neater than what I'm using; I assume that the \pdfstringdef makes a legal pdf string? John |-----Original Message----- |From: pdftex-admin@tug.org [mailto:pdftex-admin@tug.org]On Behalf Of |Barney Dalton |Sent: 17 January 2000 14:53 |To: John Martin |Cc: Pdftex@Tug. Org |Subject: Re: [pdftex] \pdfannot example? | |John Martin wrote: |> |> I am running pdftex 0.14f with hyperref, etc, running well and |wish to insert a comment/text annotation of the kind shown in the |example file for pdftex. I have copied the code there using |\pdfannot, and I have tried inserting an annotation using |\pdfobject but can get neither to work. I am using Adobe Acrobat |Reader 4.05 and doing the whole lot on WinNT. Ideally, I would |like to be able to put an annotation next to a graphic, say, with |the copyright information contained within it. Has anyone done |this? If so, could you give me an example? |> | |This is what I do (takes two arguments title, and text), can't quite |remember how it works or where I got it from. | | |\makeatletter |\newcommand{\annotate}[2][]{% | \pdfstringdef\x@title{#1}% | \edef\r{\string\r}% | \pdfstringdef\x@contents{#2}% | \pdfannot | width \linewidth | height 3\baselineskip | depth 0pt | { | /Subtype /Text | /T (\x@title) | /Contents (\x@contents) | }% | } |\makeatother |_______________________________________________ |pdftex mailing list |pdftex@tug.org |http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex | _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 18-Jan-2001 17:15:47-GMT,2761;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24803 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:15:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0IHD1I26530; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:13:01 +0100 Received: from sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0IHChI26524 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:12:43 +0100 Received: from localhost (oberdiek@localhost) by sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10782; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:12:39 +0100 (MET) From: Heiko Oberdiek To: Tim Brunne cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdf ducument info (possible bug of 0.14f) In-Reply-To: <3A66D6A8.3A586DEB@hmi.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:12:39 +0100 (MET) On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Tim Brunne wrote: > Using pdflatex 0.14f with hyperref-package: I set document > information using the > > \pdfauthor, etc. > > commands in the \hypersetup block of the LaTeX source. There is no command \pdfauthor, but an option pdfauthor. > NOW: I had a file I prepared in August/September 2000 with > a version of pdftex before release 0.14f. Everything was fine. > > After upgrading (Debian GNU/Linux system) to 0.14f I found that > the (same) acrobat reader (as before) gave an error message > when I wanted to look at the document info, of a pdf-file > generated from the old sources with the 0.14f-release. Perhaps you have downgraded hyperref to an old version. Which version you use? > Looking at the PDF-source directly in emacs confirmed that the > corresponding parts of the pdf-file seem to be broken. What do you mean with "broken"? A small example? Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Jan-2001 2:59:28-GMT,2806;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13116 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:59:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0J2w1I28855; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:58:01 +0100 Received: from mlucom8.urz.uni-halle.de (mlucom8.urz.Uni-Halle.DE [141.48.10.118]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0J2viI28849 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:57:44 +0100 Received: from [141.48.91.197] (actually zebul.theologie.Uni-Halle.DE) by mlucom8.urz.uni-halle.de with lsmtp with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:57:48 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: taqfk@mlucom6.urz.uni-halle.de Message-Id: To: pdfTeX From: Thomas Neumann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [pdftex] Upgrade 13d -> 14f failed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:57:46 +0100 Dear list members, I have to upgrade my old pdftex from 13d to 14f on a Linux 6.3 machine with teTeX 1.0. After downloading the precompiled linux archive from CTAN I have copied the files where the 13d binaries and pool files are located. texmf.cnf seems to be o.k., and I get: root@anu:~ > kpsewhich pdftex.pool /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex.pool But, if I try to build the format files pdfinitex cannot read the pool file: root@anu:~ > fmtutil --byfmt pdftex ! I can't read pdftex.pool; bad path? fmtutil: `pdftex -ini -fmt=pdftex -progname=pdftex pdftex.ini' failed. I'm not able to understand that. The pool files are not corrupted. Can anyone give me a hint, how to make things work? Thanks in advance! Thomas -- Thomas Neumann Martin-Luther-Universitaet Halle-Wittenberg Tel/Fax: +49-(0)345-55-23062/-27239 Institut fuer Bibelwissenschaften http://anu.theologie.uni-halle.de Franckeplatz 1/Haus 25 mailto:neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de D-06099 Halle (Saale) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Jan-2001 6:58:31-GMT,2357;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17870 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:58:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0J6v1I29851; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:57:01 +0100 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0J6uKI29845 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:56:20 +0100 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f0J6uOH17668; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:56:24 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <200101190656.f0J6uOH17668@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Upgrade 13d -> 14f failed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:56:24 +0100 (MET) > I have to upgrade my old pdftex from 13d to 14f on a Linux 6.3 > machine with teTeX 1.0. > > After downloading the precompiled linux archive from CTAN I have > copied the files where the 13d binaries and pool files are located. > texmf.cnf seems to be o.k., and I get: The relative location of the texmf.cnf file with respect to the binaries is non-standard in SuSE (it complies with some Linux standard, but this is not what teTeX usually expects). That is the reason why the binaries you use do not find the texmf.cnf file. Solution: add the line export TEXMFCNF=`kpsewhich -show-path=.cnf` somewhere (e.g. your .bashrc or /etc/profile). Thomas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Jan-2001 7:51:20-GMT,4525;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19143 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:51:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0J7o2I30077; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:50:02 +0100 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0J7nWI30067 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:49:32 +0100 Received: from max98.public.ox.ac.uk (max98.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.98]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA20203; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:49:33 GMT From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Thomas Neumann cc: pdfTeX Subject: Re: [pdftex] Upgrade 13d -> 14f failed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:48:23 +0000 (GMT) On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Thomas Neumann wrote: > Dear list members, > > I have to upgrade my old pdftex from 13d to 14f on a Linux 6.3 > machine with teTeX 1.0. I think 0.14g and 0.14h are around.... > After downloading the precompiled linux archive from CTAN I have > copied the files where the 13d binaries and pool files are located. > texmf.cnf seems to be o.k., and I get: > > root@anu:~ > kpsewhich pdftex.pool > /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex.pool > > But, if I try to build the format files pdfinitex cannot read the pool file: > > root@anu:~ > fmtutil --byfmt pdftex > ! I can't read pdftex.pool; bad path? > fmtutil: `pdftex -ini -fmt=pdftex -progname=pdftex pdftex.ini' failed. > > > I'm not able to understand that. The pool files are not corrupted. > > Can anyone give me a hint, how to make things work? I am guessing of course, but I have seen similar things before. I think that pre-compiled version is probably compiled against a later version of web2c (hence the kpathsearch stuff) than teTeX 1.0. Putting pool files in a var directory is a strange place (they don't vary), and I think you should put them in the main texmf tree. Try debugging: pdftex -ini -fmt=pdftex -kpathsea-debug=32 pdftex.ini (and redirect stderr and look at it). On my system that does not look in VARTEXMF (it is not in TEXMF by default), and has lines like kdebug:start search(file=pdftex.pool, must_exist=0, find_all=0, path=.:/home/ripley/texmf/web2c:!!/tex/share/texmf_local/web2c:!!/tex/share/texmf/web2c). kdebug:db:match(/tex/share/texmf/web2c/pdftex.pool,/tex/share/texmf_local/web2c) = 0 kdebug:db:match(/tex/share/texmf/web2c/pdftex.pool,/tex/share/texmf/web2c) = 1 kdebug:search(pdftex.pool) => /tex/share/texmf/web2c/pdftex.pool The information you get should illuminate this for you. (I forget where the Kpathsea debug flags are documented, but I find 32, which logs file paths, very useful.) > > Thanks in advance! > > Thomas > -- > Thomas Neumann Martin-Luther-Universitaet Halle-Wittenberg > Tel/Fax: +49-(0)345-55-23062/-27239 Institut fuer Bibelwissenschaften > http://anu.theologie.uni-halle.de Franckeplatz 1/Haus 25 > mailto:neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de D-06099 Halle (Saale) > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex > -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Jan-2001 12:03:46-GMT,2105;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA23659 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:03:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0JC21I31250; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:02:02 +0100 Received: from sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.2]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0JC17I31238 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:01:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (oberdiek@localhost) by sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18477; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:00:45 +0100 (MET) From: Heiko Oberdiek To: John Martin cc: Barney Dalton , "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: RE: [pdftex] \pdfannot example? In-Reply-To: <000601c08166$15fc08a0$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:00:45 +0100 (MET) On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, John Martin wrote: > I assume that the \pdfstringdef makes a legal pdf string? Yes, it is defined in hyperref. Yours sincerely Heiko PS: Can you limit your line length? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Jan-2001 13:57:15-GMT,2718;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25644 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:57:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0JDt1I31954; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:55:01 +0100 Received: from tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.31]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0JDsTI31945 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:54:29 +0100 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Configured by AD & JE 25/10/1999) with ESMTP id OAA06426; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:54:26 +0100 (MET) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr (8.9.3/8.8.5) id OAA12268; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:54:25 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200101191354.OAA12268@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Thomas Esser Cc: neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Upgrade 13d -> 14f failed In-Reply-To: <200101190656.f0J6uOH17668@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> References: <200101190656.f0J6uOH17668@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by tibre.ujf-grenoble.fr id OAA06426 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.daimi.au.dk id f0JDsTI31945 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:54:25 +0100 (MET) » Solution: add the line » export TEXMFCNF=`kpsewhich -show-path=.cnf` » somewhere (e.g. your .bashrc or /etc/profile). how is it supposed to work? kpsewhich using exactly the same way to locate the texmf.cnf file as the other programs, how can it be that kpsewhich finds it & the other programs don't? _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Jan-2001 14:05:20-GMT,2286;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25827 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:05:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0JE21I32010; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:02:01 +0100 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0JDwJI31982 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:58:19 +0100 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f0JDwJi18900; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:58:19 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <200101191358.f0JDwJi18900@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr Cc: neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] Upgrade 13d -> 14f failed Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:58:19 +0100 (MET) > » Solution: add the line > » export TEXMFCNF=`kpsewhich -show-path=.cnf` > » somewhere (e.g. your .bashrc or /etc/profile). > > how is it supposed to work? > > kpsewhich using exactly the same way to locate the texmf.cnf file as > the other programs, how can it be that kpsewhich finds it & the other > programs don't? I assume that kpsewhich is the binary compiled by SuSE. They use a non-standard compile-time TEXMFCNF path. My suggestion helps on SuSE systems where the pdftex binary is replaced by the version that Thanh provides. Thomas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 19-Jan-2001 15:12:34-GMT,2930;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27163 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:12:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0JF61I32441; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:06:01 +0100 Received: from mlucom8.urz.uni-halle.de (mlucom8.urz.Uni-Halle.DE [141.48.10.118]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0JF50I32428 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:05:00 +0100 Received: from [141.48.91.197] (actually zebul.theologie.Uni-Halle.DE) by mlucom8.urz.uni-halle.de with lsmtp with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:04:50 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: taqfk@mlucom6.urz.uni-halle.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200101190656.f0J6uOH17668@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> References: <200101190656.f0J6uOH17668@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org From: Thomas Neumann Subject: Re: [pdftex] Upgrade 13d -> 14f failed Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:04:50 +0100 Thomas Esser wrote: >> I have to upgrade my old pdftex from 13d to 14f on a Linux 6.3 >> machine with teTeX 1.0. >The relative location of the texmf.cnf file with respect to the binaries >is non-standard in SuSE (it complies with some Linux standard, but this >is not what teTeX usually expects). That is the reason why the binaries >you use do not find the texmf.cnf file. > >Solution: add the line > export TEXMFCNF=`kpsewhich -show-path=.cnf` >somewhere (e.g. your .bashrc or /etc/profile). Yes, "Linux 6.3" is "SuSE Linux 6.3", sorry for the uncorrectness. And thanks for your help! After editing the SuSE specific /etc/profile.local it works fine, and I can create my format files. Thomas -- Thomas Neumann Martin-Luther-Universitaet Halle-Wittenberg Tel/Fax: +49-(0)345-55-23062/-27239 Institut fuer Bibelwissenschaften http://anu.theologie.uni-halle.de Franckeplatz 1/Haus 25 mailto:neumann@theologie.uni-halle.de D-06099 Halle (Saale) _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 22-Jan-2001 9:03:39-GMT,2878;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17139 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 02:03:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0M911I19599; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:01:02 +0100 Received: from dsgt.demon.co.uk (dsgt.demon.co.uk [158.152.245.107]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0M90dI19588 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:00:39 +0100 Received: from dsgt (Administrators@localhost) by dsgt.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00058; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:00:51 GMT Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:00:51 GMT Resent-From: jwrmartin@dsgt.demon.co.uk Resent-Message-Id: <200101220900.JAA00058@dsgt.demon.co.uk> From: "John Martin" To: "Heiko Oberdiek" Cc: "Barney Dalton" , "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: RE: [pdftex] \pdfannot example? Message-ID: <000c01c08451$d1cc04c0$6bf5989e@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:00:51 -0000 Thank you. You should now find my line length limited also... John |-----Original Message----- |From: pdftex-admin@tug.org [mailto:pdftex-admin@tug.org]On Behalf Of |Heiko Oberdiek |Sent: 19 January 2001 12:01 |To: John Martin |Cc: Barney Dalton; Pdftex@Tug. 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Ryu" , pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="==_Exmh_-17996215590" Subject: [pdftex] px/txfonts map files Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:01:45 +0100 This is a multipart MIME message. This helps certain people to extract the below files. Sorry for the inconvenience. --==_Exmh_-17996215590 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In case px/txfonts will ever be included into, or used with, a tetex distribution, I provide two map files which should be used with or put into pdftex.map. psfonts.map and ps2pk.map can do with the pxr.map and txr.map coming with the font distributions. The set of mapfiles follows the guideline to embed only those fonts which are not available as pdf-renderer-resident. For example, Times is not embedded, but as the oblique transform cannot be done on resident files, the corresponding URW font is embedded. It may even be necessary to proceed this way in case you own the Adobe font files for e.g. Times, as a font called "Times" and rendered oblique is always displayed by using the resident version in certain viewers, as one hears. Feel free to use the below files at will. Happy TeXing, Karsten Tinnefeld --==_Exmh_-17996215590 Content-Type: text/plain ; name="pxfonts.pdfnrs"; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: pxfonts-pdf.map Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pxfonts.pdfnrs" % + for use with pdftex % + changed palatino urw font file names to karl berry scheme % Karsten Tinnefeld , 2001-01-24 % % URW URWPalladioL rpxpplb URWPalladioL-Bold "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" , 2001-01-24 % % Adobe Times rtxptmb Times-Bold "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10535 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:31:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0OJT1I05791; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:29:01 +0100 Received: from sp2n17.missouri.edu (sp2n17.missouri.edu [128.206.10.168]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0OJSRI05784 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:28:27 +0100 Received: from [128.206.164.43] (mu-164043.dhcp.missouri.edu [128.206.164.43]) by sp2n17.missouri.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA125160 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:28:05 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: oc918@pop.mizzou.edu Message-Id: To: pdftex@tug.org From: Oscar Chavez Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: [pdftex] Joining pdf files and landscape mode Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:28:25 -0600 I want to change a page in a pdf document with another page (given to me as pdf, made from a Word file). All pages are landscape, but the resulting pdf shows the inserted page rotated (i.e. a landscaped page with portrait content). The source is (almost): \documentclass[pdftex]{article} \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage[landscape,body={11in,8.5in}]{geometry} \begin{document} \vspace*{-0.5in} \begin{center} \includegraphics[page=1]{program.pdf} \includegraphics[page=1]{center_page.pdf} \includegraphics[page=3]{program.pdf} \includegraphics[page=4]{program.pdf} \includegraphics[page=5]{program.pdf} \end{center} \end{document} The source file, the original pdf, the resulting pdf are all at http://www.missouri.edu/~oc918/pdf.html TIA. Oscar Chavez oc918@mizzou.edu To you I'm an atheist, but to God I'm the loyal opposition. -- Woody Allen _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Jan-2001 20:42:42-GMT,3086;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12632 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:42:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0OKd1I06240; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:39:01 +0100 Received: from servidor.unam.mx (servidor.unam.mx [132.248.10.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0OKcgI06234 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:38:42 +0100 Received: from localhost (asierra@localhost) by servidor.unam.mx (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0OKZhW05910 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:35:43 -0600 (CST) From: Alejandro Aguilar Sierra To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] Problem with eps figures Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:35:43 -0600 (CST) Hello, I'm trying to use pdflatex with a presentation I made with foils. The problem is that after converted the eps figures to pdf, pdflatex can't include them and send this error message: ---------- ! LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in figs/fasesJSP.pdf (no BoundingBox). See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.72 ...h}{!}{\includegraphics{figs/fasesJSP.pdf}} ? ------ end of error message--- The original eps file has this header, including its bounding box and doesn't seems to have any problem with any other ps tool, in fact I don't get any error from epstopdf: ------------------- %!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0 %%Title: fasesJSP.dia %%Creator: Dia v0.86 %%CreationDate: Wed Jan 24 11:32:04 2001 %%For: a user %%Magnification: 1.0000 %%Orientation: Portrait %%Pages: 1 %%BeginSetup %%EndSetup %%BoundingBox: 0 0 1096 775 %%EndComments %%BeginProcSet: epsffit 1 0 gsave 0.000 0.000 translate 1.000 1.000 scale %%EndProcSet -------------------------- Am I doing something wrong? Please send the answer to my address since I am not suscribed to this list. Thank you in advance. -- Alejandro Aguilar Sierra asierra@servidor.unam.mx _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 24-Jan-2001 21:24:16-GMT,2784;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13846 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:24:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0OLNCI07022; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:23:12 +0100 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0OLMOI07015 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:22:24 +0100 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28532 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:22:34 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA08550 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:22:29 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200101242122.IAA08550@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> To: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] background image gets lost Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:22:27 +1100 (EST) Hi there. I hope someone can shed some light on this. Compare these two PDF documents: http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~ross/marslide/iciam/example.pdf http://www.iciam.org/abstracts/cgi-bin/data/16528/body.pdf Apart from minor differences in the \title, \author these are meant to be the same. The *big* difference that I observe is that the first has a background image. The second has too; it shows briefly as a page is refreshed, but then gets obscured, as if the body of the paper is opaque over the top of the image. How are these different in the PDF ? What causes this difference ? Both use pdfTeX v0.14f and the same versions of the macro packages. (texpower, everyshi, eso-pic, hyperref and others) One machine is a SUN, the other an Alpha; though I don't see how that can matter. Any help appreciated. Ross Moore _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 8:17:59-GMT,2351;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28955 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:17:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0P8H1I12527; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:17:01 +0100 Received: from jev.fe.up.pt (quim-234.fe.up.pt [193.136.33.212]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0P8GrI12521 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:16:53 +0100 Received: from villate by jev.fe.up.pt with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14LhbO-0002r5-00; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:17:54 +0000 From: "Jaime E . Villate" To: Ross Moore Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] background image gets lost Message-ID: <20010125081754.B10876@fe.up.pt> References: <200101242122.IAA08550@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200101242122.IAA08550@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au>; from ross@ics.mq.edu.au on Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 08:22:27AM +1100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:17:54 +0000 On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 08:22:27AM +1100, Ross Moore wrote: > Compare these two PDF documents: > > http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~ross/marslide/iciam/example.pdf > http://www.iciam.org/abstracts/cgi-bin/data/16528/body.pdf > > Apart from minor differences in the \title, \author > these are meant to be the same. I see them both perfectly and identical, using Acrobat Reader 4.05 under Linux. You might have a buggy pdf reader. Jaime Villate _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 8:33:30-GMT,2882;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29229 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:33:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0P8W1I12647; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:32:01 +0100 Received: from macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.216.12]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0P8VHI12636 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:31:17 +0100 Received: from hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (hera.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.219.13]) by macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10859; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:31:26 +1100 (EST) Received: (from ross@localhost) by hera.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA11349; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:31:25 +1100 (EST) From: Ross Moore Message-Id: <200101250831.TAA11349@hera.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: [pdftex] background image gets lost In-Reply-To: <20010125081754.B10876@fe.up.pt> from "Jaime E . Villate" at "Jan 25, 2001 08:17:54 am" To: "Jaime E . Villate" CC: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL71 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:31:25 +1100 (EST) > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 08:22:27AM +1100, Ross Moore wrote: > > Compare these two PDF documents: > > > > http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~ross/marslide/iciam/example.pdf > > http://www.iciam.org/abstracts/cgi-bin/data/16528/body.pdf > > > > Apart from minor differences in the \title, \author > > these are meant to be the same. > I see them both perfectly and identical, using Acrobat Reader 4.05 under Yes; Radhakrishnan clued me in that \pagecolor creates an opaque layer; which was above the background image but below the text. I traced the cause to TeXpower options, and have devised an appropriate work-around; so yes, both are correct now. Thanks for the interest. Ross Moore > Linux. You might have a buggy pdf reader. No; I'd tested on 3 different systems before the original posting. > Jaime Villate _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 8:39:02-GMT,2753;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29326 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:39:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0P8c2I12708; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:38:02 +0100 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com ([202.88.237.201]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0P8bPI12702 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:37:26 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA06232 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:00:20 +0530 From: Radhakrishnan C V To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] background image gets lost In-Reply-To: <20010125081754.B10876@fe.up.pt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:00:20 +0530 (IST) On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Jaime E . Villate wrote: : On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 08:22:27AM +1100, Ross Moore wrote: : > Compare these two PDF documents: : > : > http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~ross/marslide/iciam/example.pdf : > http://www.iciam.org/abstracts/cgi-bin/data/16528/body.pdf : > : > Apart from minor differences in the \title, \author : > these are meant to be the same. : : I see them both perfectly and identical, using Acrobat Reader 4.05 : under Linux. You might have a buggy pdf reader. No, they are not identical at all. Do you see the background graphic in the second example, that was the problem Ross was pointing to. It is because texpower adds a pagecolor which masks the graphic since everyshi keeps the background and the page in question as two layers. -- Radhakrishnan ------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 208E F5EB A4B4 2024 AEE9 575D 13DE E3B9 0292 70EF GPG Public key : http://www.river-valley.com/gpg/cvr.gpg _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 9:15:50-GMT,2703;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29944 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 02:15:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0P9E1I12949; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:14:01 +0100 Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0P9DBI12938 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:13:11 +0100 Received: from ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de (ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.56.62]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id KAA28694; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:13:03 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200101250913.KAA05026@ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Received: from ls1sol02 (ls1sol02 [129.217.56.62]) by ls1sol02.cs.uni-dortmund.de id KAA05026; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:13:03 +0100 (MET) From: Stephan Lehmke Reply-To: Stephan Lehmke Subject: Re: [pdftex] Problem with eps figures To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: asierra@servidor.unam.mx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: T1Hpw3xwVW6wfVGx4JXspw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:13:03 +0100 (MET) Alejandro Aguilar Sierra wrote on Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:35:43 -0600 (CST): > > l.72 ...h}{!}{\includegraphics{figs/fasesJSP.pdf}} What happens when you say \includegraphics{figs/fasesJSP}? If pdftex tries loading the eps file, then graphics thinks you're using dvips. Maybe you're giving a dvips option somewhere (hidden in an included package or config file)? regards Stephan -- Stephan Lehmke Stephan.Lehmke@cs.uni-dortmund.de Fachbereich Informatik, LS I Tel. +49 231 755 6434 Universitaet Dortmund FAX 6555 D-44221 Dortmund, Germany _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 12:21:50-GMT,2245;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03179 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 05:21:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0PCK2I14240; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:20:02 +0100 Received: from mailproxy.de.uu.net (mailproxy.de.uu.net [192.76.144.34]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0PCJpI14230 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:19:51 +0100 Received: from gmx.de (pec-126.au1.b.uunet.de [149.228.255.126]) by mailproxy.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id MAA06881 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:51:34 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A701336.6B058338@gmx.de> From: Tobias Burnus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdftex@tug.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] URL for latest PDFTeX / what happend with tug.org? Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:51:18 +0100 Hi, I can't find tug.org or www.tug.org anymore: nslookup tug.org Answer crypto-validated by server: Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 *** localhost can't find tug.org: Non-existent host/domain And therefore: Where can I get the latest and best PDFTeX? Tobias -- This above all: To thine own self be true / And it must follow as the night the day / Thou canst not then be false to any man. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 14:08:43-GMT,2867;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05111 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:08:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0PE72I15413; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:07:02 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0PE6oI15390 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:06:50 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (214@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11917; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:06:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from sojka@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00453; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:06:43 +0100 (MET) From: Petr Sojka To: Tobias Burnus Cc: "pdftex@tug.org" Subject: Re: [pdftex] URL for latest PDFTeX / what happend with tug.org? Message-ID: <20010125150643.B28968@informatics.muni.cz> References: <3A701336.6B058338@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3A701336.6B058338@gmx.de>; from Tobias Burnus on Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:51:18PM +0100 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:06:43 +0100 On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:51:18PM +0100, Tobias Burnus wrote: Hi, > I can't find tug.org or www.tug.org anymore: > > nslookup tug.org > Answer crypto-validated by server: > Server: localhost > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > *** localhost can't find tug.org: Non-existent host/domain Strange; your DNS seems to be misconfigured; use direct IP instead: $ nslookup tug.org Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Name: tug.org Address: 130.225.2.178 $ nslookup www.tug.org Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Name: tug.org Address: 130.225.2.178 Aliases: www.tug.org > And therefore: Where can I get the latest and best PDFTeX? Latest is as always at http://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/snapshots/ (for beta-testing) Hope helps Petr Sojka, [CS]TUG _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 14:21:47-GMT,2208;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05370 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:21:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0PEL2I15515; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:21:02 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0PEKdI15509 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:20:39 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14408; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:20:40 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01918; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:20:39 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200101251420.PAA01918@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdftex] URL for latest PDFTeX / what happend with tug.org? In-Reply-To: <3A701336.6B058338@gmx.de> from Tobias Burnus at "Jan 25, 1 12:51:18 pm" To: burnus@gmx.de (Tobias Burnus) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:20:39 +0100 (MET) Hi, I put pdftex releases on ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex which is mirrored at ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/tex/pdftex/ Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 17:12:19-GMT,2895;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10081 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:12:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0PHB1I17085; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:11:01 +0100 Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0PHAfI17079 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:10:41 +0100 Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (s340-modem4041.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.175.201]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11449; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:10:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from laptop-1 (laptop-1.pragma-ade.nl [200.1.1.25]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08911; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:09:05 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010125180541.0184b230@server-1> X-Sender: hagen@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) To: Tobias Burnus From: Hans Hagen Subject: Re: [pdftex] URL for latest PDFTeX / what happend with tug.org? Cc: "pdftex@tug.org" In-Reply-To: <3A701336.6B058338@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:05:41 +0100 At 12:51 PM 1/25/01 +0100, Tobias Burnus wrote: >Hi, > >I can't find tug.org or www.tug.org anymore: > >nslookup tug.org >Answer crypto-validated by server: >Server: localhost >Address: 127.0.0.1 > >*** localhost can't find tug.org: Non-existent host/domain works ok here >And therefore: Where can I get the latest and best PDFTeX? Should be (for linux) ftp://ftp.muni.cz/%2f/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex/pdftex-linux.zip but that link is dead Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 17:30:59-GMT,2838;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10846 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:30:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0PHU2I17222; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:30:02 +0100 Received: from ms-sm2.uncc.edu (ms-sm2.uncc.edu [152.15.11.175]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0PHTbI17212 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:29:37 +0100 Received: from mail.cs.uncc.edu (volley.uncc.edu [152.15.35.20]) by ms-sm2.uncc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA05786 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:29:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A70627C.BAA59597@mail.cs.uncc.edu> From: "K.R.Subramanian" Organization: Univ. of N. Carolina at Charlotte X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; IRIX 6.5 IP22) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] upgrading pdftex.. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:29:33 -0500 I am having difficulties in getting pdftex to like JPEG files. I was told that a newer version of pdftex might help. I saw the instructions at the following pdftex sites on how to build pdftex. Once it is built, is it just sufficient to simply overwrite the texk subdirectory with the newer version? Or is there a more proper way to do this? Thanks. -- krs Han The Thanh wrote: > Hi, > > I put pdftex releases on > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex > > which is mirrored at > ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/tex/pdftex/ > > Regards, > Thanh > _______________________________________________ > pdftex mailing list > pdftex@tug.org > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex -- K.R.Subramanian Phone: (704) 687-4872 Department of Computer Science FAX: (704) 687-3516 UNC Charlotte, 228A Kennedy 9201 Univ. City Blvd. Email: krs@cs.uncc.edu Charlotte, NC 28223-0001 WWW: http://www.cs.uncc.edu/~krs _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 18:03:08-GMT,3250;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12175 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:03:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0PI21I17382; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:02:01 +0100 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0PI1eI17373 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:01:40 +0100 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA15000; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:01:01 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14960.27139.425398.262327@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: Radhakrishnan C V Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] background image gets lost In-Reply-To: References: <20010125081754.B10876@fe.up.pt> X-Mailer: VM 6.87 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:01:39 +0100 >>>>> "Radhakrishnan" == Radhakrishnan C V writes: >> I see them both perfectly and identical, using Acrobat Reader 4.05 >> under Linux. You might have a buggy pdf reader. > No, they are not identical at all. Do you see the background > graphic in the second example, that was the problem Ross was > pointing to. I see the same background graphic in both files using either acroread 4.05 or xpdf 0.92 under Linux. Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 25-Jan-2001 20:58:07-GMT,3983;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18018 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:58:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0PKv1I18413; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:57:01 +0100 Received: from zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.53]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0PKuRI18404 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:56:27 +0100 Received: from zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de (reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54]) by zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA16510; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:55:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.kammer.uni-hannover.de: Host reinhard@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de [130.75.139.54] claimed to be zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de.kammer.uni-hannover.de From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14960.37624.543026.665174@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> To: "K.R.Subramanian" Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] upgrading pdftex.. In-Reply-To: <3A70627C.BAA59597@mail.cs.uncc.edu> References: <3A70627C.BAA59597@mail.cs.uncc.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.87 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:56:24 +0100 >>>>> "krs" == K R Subramanian writes: > I am having difficulties in getting pdftex to like JPEG files. I > was told that a newer version of pdftex might help. I saw the > instructions at the following pdftex sites on how to build > pdftex. Once it is built, is it just sufficient to simply > overwrite the texk subdirectory with the newer version? Or is > there a more proper way to do this? Hi, if you want to install version 0.14f, you can put it into the teTeX tree. If you want to install a newer beta version, just unpack it and run "./configure" and "make pdftex". You must then copy the binary and the pool file to the proper directories. BTW., Thanh, some suggestions (patch for version 0.14h): --- src/Makefile.orig Thu Jan 25 20:46:59 2001 +++ src/Makefile Thu Jan 25 21:16:14 2001 @@ -155,7 +155,11 @@ world: all install strip pdftex: cd texk/web2c; $(MAKE) pdftex - test -f texk/web2c/pdftex && ls -l texk/web2c/pdftex + test -f texk/web2c/pdftex && ls -l texk/web2c/pdftex{,.pool} + +pdfetex: + cd texk/web2c; $(MAKE) pdfetex + test -f texk/web2c/pdfetex && ls -l texk/web2c/pdfetex{,.pool} $(NCURSESDIR)/lib/libncurses.a: cd $(NCURSESDIR)/ncurses; $(MAKE) ../lib/libncurses.a Regards, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-751355 Berggartenstr. 9 D-30419 Hannover mailto:reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Jan-2001 5:45:28-GMT,2786;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01118 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:45:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0Q5g1I20791; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 06:42:01 +0100 Received: from narmada.river-valley.com ([202.88.237.201]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0Q5fXI20785 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 06:41:34 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narmada.river-valley.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01887; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:04:35 +0530 From: Radhakrishnan C V To: Reinhard Kotucha cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] background image gets lost In-Reply-To: <14960.27139.425398.262327@zarniwoop.kammer.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:04:35 +0530 (IST) On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: : >>>>> "Radhakrishnan" == Radhakrishnan C V writes: : : >> I see them both perfectly and identical, using Acrobat Reader 4.05 : >> under Linux. You might have a buggy pdf reader. : : > No, they are not identical at all. Do you see the background : > graphic in the second example, that was the problem Ross was : > pointing to. : : I see the same background graphic in both files using either acroread : 4.05 or xpdf 0.92 under Linux. Ross fixed the problem and put the corrected one when you looked. It was not the same when he made the first post, subsequently he informed about the correction to the list, all this happened within half an hour or so. -- Radhakrishnan ------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Fingerprint: 208E F5EB A4B4 2024 AEE9 575D 13DE E3B9 0292 70EF GPG Public key : http://www.river-valley.com/gpg/cvr.gpg _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Jan-2001 7:16:01-GMT,2081;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03059 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:15:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0Q7F2I21402; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:15:02 +0100 Received: from merak.informatik.uni-hannover.de (merak.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.10]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0Q7EkI21394 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:14:46 +0100 Received: (from te@localhost) by merak.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f0Q7EhC11953; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:14:43 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <200101260714.f0Q7EhC11953@merak.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: krs@zappa.uncc.edu, reinhard@kammer.uni-hannover.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pdftex] upgrading pdftex.. Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:14:43 +0100 (MET) > + test -f texk/web2c/pdftex && ls -l texk/web2c/pdftex{,.pool} > + > +pdfetex: > + cd texk/web2c; $(MAKE) pdfetex > + test -f texk/web2c/pdfetex && ls -l texk/web2c/pdfetex{,.pool} Brace expansion is not a feature of the standard bourne shell, so this is not portable. It works on systems where /bin/sh is a bash (i.e. on most Linux systems). Thomas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Jan-2001 10:08:03-GMT,2587;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06193 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 03:08:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0QA6aI22381; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:06:36 +0100 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0QA5XI22360 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:05:33 +0100 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14M5l7-0000Xj-00; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:05:33 +0000 To: Tobias Burnus cc: "pdftex@tug.org" Subject: Re: [pdftex] URL for latest PDFTeX / what happend with tug.org? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:51:18 +0100." <3A701336.6B058338@gmx.de> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:05:33 +0000 > I can't find tug.org or www.tug.org anymore: > > nslookup tug.org > Answer crypto-validated by server: > Server: localhost > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > *** localhost can't find tug.org: Non-existent host/domain > > And therefore: Where can I get the latest and best PDFTeX? soemthing in your system knew how to route to tug.org, as otherwise your message wouldn't have got to us. apart from the myriad sources already listed, there's always (gasp!) ctan. but i don't suppose many people associate ctan with being a source of software any more :-( thanh -- should be be mirroring from freesoftware.com? (would seem a bit odd, as they will then mirror it back from us in some other part of their vast tree...) Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Jan-2001 10:13:43-GMT,2486;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06304 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 03:13:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0QAD1I22437; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:13:01 +0100 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0QAC1I22430 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:12:02 +0100 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f0QABlG29566; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:11:47 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <200101261011.f0QABlG29566@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: karsten@tinnefeld.com, pdftex@tug.org, ryoung@utdallas.edu, tetex@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: [pdftex] Re: px/txfonts map files Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:11:47 +0100 (MET) > In case px/txfonts will ever be included into, or used with, a tetex > distribution, I provide two map files which should be used with or put > into pdftex.map. psfonts.map and ps2pk.map can do with the pxr.map and > txr.map coming with the font distributions. Thanks. Yes, I plan to include px/txfonts into teTeX. Some work will be needed for the map files, though, since I want people to allow to have the type1 files of the LW35 fonts using any combination of vendor / Berry names and Adobe fonts / URW fonts (this gives 4 combinations). The updmap script picks the right version of each small map file "module" and created the three map files pdftex.map, psfonts.map and ps2pk.map (each having its own characteristics). Thomas _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 26-Jan-2001 12:23:15-GMT,2285;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08518 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 05:23:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0QCM1I23122; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:22:01 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0QCL9I23115 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:21:09 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10232 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:21:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12498 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:21:07 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200101261221.NAA12498@anxur.fi.muni.cz> To: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] pdftex update Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:21:07 +0100 (MET) Hi, I released another pretest of pdftex (20010126) at ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex This pretest has support for OpenType fonts (asked by Thierry). TTF fonts are embedded as truetype, OTF fonts are included entirely (partial downloading not supported). Luckiky reencoding works for OTF fonts without partial downloading. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 27-Jan-2001 13:35:38-GMT,3261;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11890 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 06:35:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0RDX1I30167; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:33:01 +0100 Received: from mail.epost.de (mail.epost.de [64.39.38.70] (may be forged)) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0RDWRI30161 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:32:27 +0100 Received: from B8784.pppool.de (213.7.135.132) by mail.epost.de (5.5.020) id 3A6FFE4500049429 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:32:17 +0100 From: Aiko Huckauf X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Aiko Huckauf X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <63266743.20010127143226@epost.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pdftex] thumbpdf and page orientation Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:32:26 +0100 I use pdftex 0.14d and thumbpdf 2.7 under Win98. Within my document most pages are in portrait orientation, but some drawings must be set in landscape orientation. To get the landscape orientation for the few pages where I want to have this format, I use something like the following: \begin{landscape} \begin{figure}[htbp] \thispagestyle{plain} \centering \includegraphics*[viewport=36 35 559 376,height=0.927\textwidth] {Spectrometer_1.pdf} \caption{Drawing of the Spectrometer} \label{Pic:Spectrometer_1} \end{figure} \end{landscape} \clearpage \newpage The pdf-file created by pdftex in this way looks good (with Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.05): The portrait pages are shown in portrait orientation, and the landscape pages in landscape orientation. Now I create the thumbnails: I use thumbpdf.bat (created from thumbpdf.pl with ActivePerl for Win32 5.6.0.623), and afterwards I rerun pdftex. Now I have the thumbnails in my pdf-file, indeed, but the following problem occurs: The page orientation is all right (i. e. portrait) up to the first landscape page. From this page on _all_ following pages are shown in landscape orientation, i. e. all portrait pages are rotated clockwise by 90 degrees. Does anybody have any idea how to get the thumbnails _and_ the correct page orientation? Is it perhaps a problem of the Ghostscript settings? I use Aladdin Ghostscript 6.50. Grateful thanks for any hint! Aiko Huckauf _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Jan-2001 9:57:31-GMT,2295;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04175 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:57:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0U9u1c21080; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:56:02 +0100 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0U9tPc21071 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:55:25 +0100 Received: from remote142-170.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.170] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14N0Hi-0001Zz-00; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:26:58 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010128225858.4097f06e@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Aiko Huckauf , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] thumbpdf and page orientation In-Reply-To: <63266743.20010127143226@epost.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:58:58 +0100 At 14:32 27.01.2001 +0100, Aiko Huckauf wrote: >I use pdftex 0.14d and thumbpdf 2.7 under Win98. >\begin{landscape} >Does anybody have any idea how to get the thumbnails _and_ the correct >page orientation? Is it perhaps a problem of the Ghostscript settings? >I use Aladdin Ghostscript 6.50. thumbpdf 2.8 supports landscape pages. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Jan-2001 10:02:14-GMT,2422;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA04265 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:02:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0UA1Gc21139; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:01:16 +0100 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0U9tUc21074 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:55:30 +0100 Received: from remote142-170.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.170] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14N0Hj-0001Zz-00; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:26:59 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.20010128230130.409762a8@localhost> X-Sender: oberdiek@localhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) To: Oscar Chavez , pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: [pdftex] Joining pdf files and landscape mode In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:01:30 +0100 At 13:28 24.01.2001 -0600, Oscar Chavez wrote: >I want to change a page in a pdf document with another page (given to >me as pdf, made from a Word file). All pages are landscape, but the >resulting pdf shows the inserted page rotated (i.e. a landscaped page >with portrait content). >\usepackage[landscape,body={11in,8.5in}]{geometry} >\includegraphics[page=1]{program.pdf} \includegraphics knows an option "rotate", perhaps it solves your problem. Yours sincerely Heiko _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Jan-2001 10:34:12-GMT,2613;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA04854 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:34:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0UAX1c21362; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:33:01 +0100 Received: from web10305.mail.yahoo.com (web10305.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.83]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0UAWHc21354 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:32:18 +0100 Message-ID: <20010129183215.85018.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.30.50] by web10305.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:32:15 PST From: Pramod Achuthan To: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [pdftex] pdftex-error Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:32:15 -0800 (PST) Hello everybody, I have some problem in building the pdftex on SGI. I downloaded the source from ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex In the Makefile, there is a datestr.zip file. Do we need this file for building pdftex on SGI machines? When I run the make, its unable to make bibtex.web. This is the segment of error I got when I run the make ./../klibtool link cc -o tangle tangle.o lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm cc -o tangle tangle.o lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm ld32: WARNING 84 : /usr/lib32/mips3/libm.so is not used for resolving any symbol. make CC='cc' CFLAGS='-O -g ' tangleboot.p UX:make: INFO: `tangleboot.p' is up to date. UX:make: ERROR: don't know how to make bibtex.web (bu42). Please give some suggestion to correct this. Sincerely, Pramod. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Jan-2001 10:37:46-GMT,3352;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA04917 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:37:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0UAb1c21404; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:37:01 +0100 Received: from nets5.rz.rwth-aachen.de (nets5.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.13]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0UAa5c21395 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:36:09 +0100 Received: from gauss.rwth-aachen.de (gauss.lfpt.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.124.11]) by nets5.rz.rwth-aachen.de (8.10.1/8.10.1/6) with ESMTP id f0TDMfL12281 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:22:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from wallace.rwth-aachen.de (wallace [134.130.124.21]) by gauss.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA27617 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:22:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jba@localhost) by wallace.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12923 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:22:02 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Bausa To: pdftex@tug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] protuding chars Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:22:02 +0100 (MET) Is this the pdftex mailing list? I hope so, if not please forward this message to the list. I use pdfLaTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (MiKTeX 1.20e (Snapshot build 187)) to create documents with prtuding chars. However, I found out that the hyphen is only protuding, when it is genearated by the automatic hyphenation algorithm, not if I type it in directly. If I type the hyphen directly, the value of rpcode is not used. Here is a small example. After pdflatexing it will look like: This is a test with a verylongword. This is a test with a very- veryverylongword. This is a test with a veryveryveryverylong- word. This is a test with a veryveryverylongword. This is a test with a veryveryverylongword. Only the first hyphen does what it schould. I checked the resulting dvi and found out that both hyphens use char 45, as they should. Any Idea? Juergen \documentclass{article} \rpcode`-= 700 \pdfprotrudechars=2 \setlength{\textwidth}{10 cm} \begin{document} This is a test with a verylongword. This is a test with a very\-veryverylongword. This is a test with a veryveryveryverylong- word. This is a test with a veryveryverylongword. This is a test with a veryveryverylongword. \end{document} _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Jan-2001 15:36:07-GMT,3109;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10531 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:36:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0UFY2c23899; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:34:02 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0UFXbc23892 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:33:37 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20382; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:33:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11325; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:33:23 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200101301533.QAA11325@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex-error In-Reply-To: <20010129183215.85018.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com> from Pramod Achuthan at "Jan 29, 1 10:32:15 am" To: mailpmod@yahoo.com (Pramod Achuthan) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:33:23 +0100 (MET) > Hello everybody, > > I have some problem in building the pdftex on SGI. I > downloaded the source from > > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex > > In the Makefile, there is a datestr.zip file. Do we > need this file for building pdftex on SGI machines? > > When I run the make, its unable to make bibtex.web. > This is the segment of error I got when I run the make > > ./../klibtool link cc -o tangle tangle.o > lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm > cc -o tangle tangle.o lib/lib.a > ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm > ld32: WARNING 84 : /usr/lib32/mips3/libm.so is not > used for resolving any symbol. > make CC='cc' CFLAGS='-O -g ' tangleboot.p > UX:make: INFO: `tangleboot.p' is up to date. > UX:make: ERROR: don't know how to make bibtex.web > (bu42). > > > Please give some suggestion to correct this. if you want to build pdftex from sources, please follow the instructions in the README file at the same location you get the sources ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex Regards, Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 30-Jan-2001 15:40:59-GMT,3022;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10665 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:40:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0UFe2c23953; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:40:02 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0UFZDc23911 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:35:13 +0100 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20546; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:35:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11417; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:35:06 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <200101301535.QAA11417@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: [pdftex] protuding chars In-Reply-To: from Juergen Bausa at "Jan 29, 1 02:22:02 pm" To: jba@lfpt.RWTH-Aachen.DE (Juergen Bausa) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:35:05 +0100 (MET) > Is this the pdftex mailing list? I hope so, if not please forward this > message to the list. > > I use pdfLaTeX, Version 3.14159-14e-released-20000217 (MiKTeX 1.20e > (Snapshot build 187)) to create documents with prtuding chars. However, > I found out that the hyphen is only protuding, when it is genearated by > the automatic hyphenation algorithm, not if I type it in directly. > If I type the hyphen directly, the value of rpcode is not used. > > Here is a small example. After pdflatexing it will look like: > > > This is a test with a verylongword. This is a test with a very- > veryverylongword. This is a test with a veryveryveryverylong- > word. This is a test with a veryveryverylongword. This is a test > with a veryveryverylongword. > > > Only the first hyphen does what it schould. > > I checked the resulting dvi and found out that both hyphens use char 45, > as they should. > > Any Idea? sorry to say this: please update your pdftex. Thanh _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Jan-2001 0:06:02-GMT,2605;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28728 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:06:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0V051c27097; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:05:01 +0100 Received: from pretty.anu.edu.au (pretty.anu.edu.au [150.203.22.8]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0V042c27090 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:04:03 +0100 Received: (from andaling@localhost) by pretty.anu.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28096 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:03:55 +1100 (EST) From: Avery Andrews Message-Id: <200101310003.LAA28096@pretty.anu.edu.au> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pdftex] pdftex line-drawing specials Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:03:55 +1100 (EST) Hello, I've presently got some postscript specials (for dvips) for drawing lines and arrows for linguistics diagrams (originally by Emma Pease, with some enhancements by me), and from what little I've learned about the pdf format it seems like it might not be too difficult to produce a pdf version of these for use with pdftex; it would be very helpful if somebody could point me gently in the right direction for how to do this, at least two things I think I need to know being: a) how to put a pdf special into a latex document, similarly to a postscript special b) a manual of pdf commands. I've guessed that replacing \special{ps: with \special{pdf: would be the answer to (a), and that seems to work but then the actual specials crash because acrobat doesn't like the `@beginspec' commands that these specials start with. It's been a long time since I've seriously messed with this kind of thing, so I've likely forgotten important stuff. Thanks Avery.Andrews@anu.edu.au _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Jan-2001 2:42:52-GMT,2505;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03857 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:42:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0V2e2c27699; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 03:40:02 +0100 Received: from sam.civil.ubc.ca (sam.civil.ubc.ca [137.82.46.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0V2dKc27691 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 03:39:20 +0100 Received: from localhost (pacheco@localhost) by sam.civil.ubc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28828 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: Sigfrido Pacheco-Vega To: pdftex@mail.tug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [pdftex] EMbedding fonts in pdf Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:39:14 -0800 (PST) Hi, I am trying to make my documents look better by including the math fonts as true type 1 instead of bitmapped fonts. Is there a way to do this? I know the times package does that for regular text, but my main concern is on the typesetting of mathematical equations. I tried the mathptmx package, but it tells me I need to install some tfm, afm and other fonts I don't fully understand. Any help would be greately appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sigfrido. ______________________________________ Sigfrido Pacheco Vega, M.Eng. student 6201 Cecil Green Park Road - #201 University of British Columbia - Green College Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z1 Canada Phone: (604)222.1435 e-mail: pacheco@civil.ubc.ca sigfrido1@yahoo.com Webpage: http://www.civil.ubc.ca/home/spv/index.html _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Jan-2001 6:47:15-GMT,2640;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09341 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:47:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0V6k2c28727; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:46:02 +0100 Received: from relay1.jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0V6joc28721 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:45:51 +0100 Received: from tiger (tiger.jet.msk.su) [193.124.4.1] by relay1.jet.msk.su with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 14NqlG-0002mO-00; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:28:58 +0300 Received: from david.service.jet.msk.su [192.168.10.103] (root) by tiger.jet.msk.su with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 14NqlG-0005Ax-00; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:28:58 +0300 Received: from tobotras by david.service.jet.msk.su with local (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14NqlG-0002Ln-00; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:28:58 +0300 To: Robin Fairbairns Cc: Tobias Burnus , "pdftex@tug.org" Subject: Re: [pdftex] URL for latest PDFTeX / what happend with tug.org? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Boris Tobotras In-Reply-To: Robin Fairbairns's message of "Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:05:33 +0000" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Channel Islands" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: 31 Jan 2001 09:28:57 +0300 >>>>> "Robin" == Robin Fairbairns writes: Robin> apart from the myriad sources already listed, there's always (gasp!) Robin> ctan. but i don't suppose many people associate ctan with being a Robin> source of software any more :-( Huh? I seem to miss something. What've been changed in ctan status? -- Best regards, -- Boris. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Jan-2001 7:41:01-GMT,3668;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10855 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 00:41:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0V7e1c28929; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:40:01 +0100 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0V7drc28921 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:39:53 +0100 Received: from max120.public.ox.ac.uk (max120.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.120]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA03481; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:39:09 GMT From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Avery Andrews cc: Subject: Re: [pdftex] pdftex line-drawing specials In-Reply-To: <200101310003.LAA28096@pretty.anu.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:37:38 +0000 (GMT) On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Avery Andrews wrote: > Hello, > > I've presently got some postscript specials (for dvips) for drawing > lines and arrows for linguistics diagrams (originally by Emma Pease, with some > enhancements by me), and from what little I've learned about the pdf > format it seems like it might not be too difficult to produce a pdf > version of these for use with pdftex; it would be very helpful if > somebody could point me gently in the right direction for how to do > this, at least two things I think I need to know being: > > a) how to put a pdf special into a latex document, similarly to a > postscript special > > b) a manual of pdf commands. > > I've guessed that replacing \special{ps: with \special{pdf: would be > the answer to (a), and that seems to work but then the actual specials > crash because acrobat doesn't like the `@beginspec' commands that these > specials start with. I think you want to use \pdfobj commands and related things: see the pdftex manual. > It's been a long time since I've seriously messed with this kind of > thing, so I've likely forgotten important stuff. The answer to (b) is the PDF Reference Manual (search for pdfspec.pdf on www.adobe.com). Be warned though that although PDF is very like simple postscript (no arc operator, though), PDF is structured rigidly into an object tree and getting the structure exactly right is necessary and time-consuming. Perhaps for your purposes you can side-step some of this, but you can't preview PDF objects alone. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Jan-2001 9:33:04-GMT,2471;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13181 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:33:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0V9W2c29393; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:32:02 +0100 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0V9VOc29386 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:31:24 +0100 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14Ntba-0004N5-00; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:31:10 +0000 To: Boris Tobotras cc: Robin Fairbairns , Tobias Burnus , "pdftex@tug.org" Subject: Re: [pdftex] URL for latest PDFTeX / what happend with tug.org? In-Reply-To: Your message of "31 Jan 2001 09:28:57 +0300." From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:31:10 +0000 > >>>>> "Robin" == Robin Fairbairns writes: > > Robin> apart from the myriad sources already listed, there's always (gasp!) > Robin> ctan. but i don't suppose many people associate ctan with being a > Robin> source of software any more :-( > > Huh? I seem to miss something. What've been changed in ctan status? merely that people don't seem to bother with ctan any more. the major discussion on the ctan internal list is what to do in the circumstance that so many people refuse to have their latest software on ctan. :-( _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Jan-2001 12:34:12-GMT,3665;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA16970 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 05:34:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0VCV1c30193; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:31:01 +0100 Received: from cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [142.176.61.253]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0VCUoc30186 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:30:50 +0100 Received: id IAA27329; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:31:34 -0400 Received: by gateway id <0G81005CB1ELM4@bionet.bio.dfo.ca> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:30:21 -0400 (AST) Received: by gateway ??? Received: by gateway id ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:30:23 -0400 From: "White, George" Subject: RE: [pdftex] pdftex line-drawing specials To: "'Avery Andrews '" Cc: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Message-id: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FC02C@MSGMARBIO05> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:30:19 -0400 If your PostScript specials do any calculations they won't translate to pdf. Have you looked into metapost? Hans Hagan has done a lot of work with metapost and pdftex, including metapost support for the latex graphics packages. Metapost output is PostScript, but in a form that translates reasonably directly to pdf. http://www.pragma-ade.com/pragma-ade/ has extensive documentation (mostly using ConTeXt, but much of the the metapost code can be used in LaTeX). -----Original Message----- From: Avery Andrews To: pdftex@tug.org Sent: 1/30/01 8:03 PM Subject: [pdftex] pdftex line-drawing specials Hello, I've presently got some postscript specials (for dvips) for drawing lines and arrows for linguistics diagrams (originally by Emma Pease, with some enhancements by me), and from what little I've learned about the pdf format it seems like it might not be too difficult to produce a pdf version of these for use with pdftex; it would be very helpful if somebody could point me gently in the right direction for how to do this, at least two things I think I need to know being: a) how to put a pdf special into a latex document, similarly to a postscript special b) a manual of pdf commands. I've guessed that replacing \special{ps: with \special{pdf: would be the answer to (a), and that seems to work but then the actual specials crash because acrobat doesn't like the `@beginspec' commands that these specials start with. It's been a long time since I've seriously messed with this kind of thing, so I've likely forgotten important stuff. Thanks Avery.Andrews@anu.edu.au _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Jan-2001 13:03:53-GMT,4043;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17599 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:03:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0VD21c30340; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:02:01 +0100 Received: from cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (cod.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca [142.176.61.253]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0VD1pc30333 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:01:51 +0100 Received: id JAA28087; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:01:00 -0400 Received: by gateway id <0G81005M42RKM4@bionet.bio.dfo.ca> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:59:45 -0400 (AST) Received: by gateway ??? Received: by gateway id ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:59:23 -0400 From: "White, George" Subject: RE: [pdftex] URL for latest PDFTeX / what happend with tug.org? To: "'Robin Fairbairns '" , "'Boris Tobotras '" Cc: "'Tobias Burnus '" , "'pdftex@tug.org '" Message-id: <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FC02D@MSGMARBIO05> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:59:21 -0400 I'm not sure it fair to say people refuse to have their "latest" software on CTAN. In the cases I have encountered, the versions that aren't on CTAN are generally "test" versions. It is important to consider the burden on a contributer. If a package developer has a site where it is easy to post updates, it may be more effective to release test versions to a limited audience (in particular, people looking for a specific new feature/bug-fix) rather than dealing with a large number of bug reports if something is released to general use before it is ready. CTAN should encourage authors of packages to include pointers to sites where such test versions can be found as well as some indication of the package stability (e.g., "this packages hasn't changed in several years and probably won't be updated in the next year" vs "this package is still being developed -- test versions will be released frequently"). Revision control systems with bug tracking such as Sourceforge offers might be worth considering, but I suspect many CTAN contributers won't have the sort of network access this requires. -----Original Message----- From: Robin Fairbairns To: Boris Tobotras Cc: Robin Fairbairns; Tobias Burnus; pdftex@tug.org Sent: 1/31/01 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [pdftex] URL for latest PDFTeX / what happend with tug.org? > >>>>> "Robin" == Robin Fairbairns writes: > > Robin> apart from the myriad sources already listed, there's always (gasp!) > Robin> ctan. but i don't suppose many people associate ctan with being a > Robin> source of software any more :-( > > Huh? I seem to miss something. What've been changed in ctan status? merely that people don't seem to bother with ctan any more. the major discussion on the ctan internal list is what to do in the circumstance that so many people refuse to have their latest software on ctan. :-( _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex 31-Jan-2001 15:00:01-GMT,2849;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (isdn-2-178.daimi.au.dk [130.225.2.178]) by sunshine.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20320 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:59:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from tug.daimi.au.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0VEx1c30937; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:59:01 +0100 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by tug.daimi.au.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f0VEwWc30929 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:58:32 +0100 Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14NyiL-0007UP-00; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:58:29 +0000 To: "White, George" cc: "'pdftex@tug.org '" Subject: Re: [pdftex] why bother with ctan (was URL for latest PDFTeX) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:59:21 -0400." <25DB90CB4178D4118AB300D0B72E7D030FC02D@MSGMARBIO05> From: Robin Fairbairns Message-Id: Sender: pdftex-admin@tug.org Errors-To: pdftex-admin@tug.org X-BeenThere: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Extending TeX to output PDF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:58:29 +0000 > I'm not sure it fair to say people refuse to have their "latest" > software on CTAN. In the cases I have encountered, the versions > that aren't on CTAN are generally "test" versions. my experience (somewhat at the centre of things) is different. more-or-less whenever someone asks where they can get the latest , and i reply that we hold it, someone inevitably follows up to say that no we don't, it's on some private web site. > It is important to consider the burden on a contributer. we offer a service. potential contributors thumb their noses at it (with a few honorable exceptions). why should i, or any of the others of the ctan team, bother to carry on? i have to fend off pressure _not_ to use my department's resources to provide a ctan service; i have to fend off complaints about the use of my time providing that service. the only actual real incentive to carry on is that the burden on my colleagues would become even worse if i gave up. _______________________________________________ pdftex mailing list pdftex@tug.org http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/pdftex